Economy Grew 4.2% in 2nd Quarter

This is a small revision to the previously reported 4.1% growth. Every little bit helps.

he U.S. economy grew at a strong 4.2 percent annual rate in the April-June quarter, the best showing in nearly four years, as growth stayed on track to produce its strongest full-year gain in more than a decade.

...

Economists expect growth to slow to a still solid 3 percent annual rate the rest of the year, resulting in full-year growth of 3 percent for 2018. It would be the best performance since 2005, two years before the Great Recession began.

The 4.2 percent annual growth that the government estimated for last quarter is the strongest such figure since a 4.3 percent annual gain in the third quarter of 2014. The expectation of 3 percent growth for 2018 as a whole would be up from gains of 1.6 percent in 2016 and 2.2 percent last year.

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1 Remember when the numbers always got revised down?

Good times, good times.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 03, 2018 01:02 PM (dEQP3)

2
Peanuts.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 01:02 PM (LsBY9)

3 Barry's glorious economy miracle has finally arrived, comrades!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 03, 2018 01:03 PM (SiINZ)

4 Get rid of the free trade agreements and watch what happens.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:03 PM (4ErVI)

5 The revision was upward.Unexpectedly.

Posted by: steevy at September 03, 2018 01:03 PM (mCMQ5)

6 But,but... Collusion!

Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2018 01:03 PM (O2RFr)

7 Happy Labor Day, Ace.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 03, 2018 01:03 PM (ptqGC)

8
To be pooh-poohed by Jen Rubin and all the other WaPo "conservative voices."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 01:05 PM (LsBY9)

9 Crumbs?

Posted by: Roy at September 03, 2018 01:05 PM (ABjxW)

10 Top ten.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 03, 2018 01:06 PM (QSdIk)

11 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Ex President Cock Curious at September 03, 2018 01:06 PM (jDF8P)

12 My America was already great

Posted by: Zombie John McCain at September 03, 2018 01:06 PM (K2T58)

13 It's all Barry's doing. He laid the groundwork and now it's paying off.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 03, 2018 01:06 PM (NWiLs)

14 The MSM is not interested in this news.


Outside of the fact that "labor" is causing people to give up their underwater basketweaving and cowboy poetry, which is, of course, the same as denying treatment to a dying person.

Posted by: shibumi at September 03, 2018 01:06 PM (SbIX4)

15 Note, this is actual growth, not growth artificially created by Quantitative Easing.

Posted by: Don Q at September 03, 2018 01:06 PM (NgKpN)

16
The End of Funemployment.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 01:07 PM (LsBY9)

17 Upward Revisions...

unlike the previous administration.

Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:07 PM (psQxy)

18
It's old.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:07 PM (rW4yT)

19 12 My America was already great
Posted by: Zombie John McCain

Agreed... Having millions of dollars would make ones America "great."

Posted by: It's me donna at September 03, 2018 01:07 PM (O2RFr)

20 Hey, Mr. Krugman, what are you doing in here on Labor Day?

Posted by: Krugman's Bartender at September 03, 2018 01:07 PM (jDF8P)

21 Hope people are paying attention to reality, and not getting suckered by the Socialists. If the collective " we" vote in the Socialist Democrats, we are screwed in the long run.

Posted by: kraken at September 03, 2018 01:08 PM (DpEis)

22 >>Note, this is actual growth, not growth artificially created by Quantitative Easing.


It's likely been retarded by the effects of Easing.

Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:08 PM (psQxy)

23 Only bad thing about this Trump economy is more people working=more traffic coming and going to work.

Posted by: JROD at September 03, 2018 01:08 PM (bQMzs)

24 *WILL WORK FOR BRAINZ*

Posted by: out of work tumor at September 03, 2018 01:08 PM (ptqGC)

25 Can't get enough of winning. Let's hope November brings even more.

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:08 PM (gjGvH)

26
btw, Fake News is back to explicitly implying Russians hacked the votes in 2016 and plan to do so again.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:08 PM (rW4yT)

27 Why did Trump "monkey things up" by attacking Richard Trumka on Labor Day?

Posted by: Curious at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (3iIjx)

28 It's going to be an early forecast.

Posted by: Bill Spynn at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (Tyii7)

29 Grandma can afford herself a motorizer scooter chair now and drive herself off of a cliff.

Posted by: Roy at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (ABjxW)

30
Galveston is getting pasted with rain today. Has Jim New Sunk Dawn been by today?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (LsBY9)

31 They oughta be thankin' me.

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (1uG1d)

32 This is clearly a direct result of Cash-for-Clunkers and my innumerable Shovel-Ready Projects and the countless jobs they created or saved. You're welcome, America.

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (QSdIk)

33 23
Only bad thing about this Trump economy is more people working=more traffic coming and going to work.

Posted by: JROD at September 03, 2018 01:08 PM (bQMzs)

Yes, I noticed that years ago during O's terms. Driving the freeways was a breeze then.

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (gjGvH)

34 Well, obviously the President must be impeached

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (CaRQc)

35 This while the Fed has been raising rates.

Obama got eight years of ZIRP and couldn't get out of stalled neutral

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (9oKan)

36 "Economists expect growth to slow to a still solid 3 percent annual rate the rest of the year,"

Bullshit.

The numbers are going to keep outstripping "predictions", and all analysts are going to be "surprised".

Posted by: West at September 03, 2018 01:10 PM (D/Ye4)

37 If we can hold the line for the mid-terms, things might just get Great.

Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:10 PM (psQxy)

38 It's all Barry's doing. He laid the groundwork and now it's paying off.

Yep. I built that.

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at September 03, 2018 01:10 PM (Tyii7)

39 And the colleges and universities rejoiced at this great victory for Socialism. It was Bernie and the Squawking White Lady from Mass. that created this workers' paradise. And if you evil conservatives would just give is free healthcare and school, we'd never have to work at all!

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at September 03, 2018 01:10 PM (jp0Bv)

40 Galveston is getting pasted with rain today. Has Jim New Sunk Dawn been by today?



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (LsBY9)


Tropical Storm Gordon is heading into the Gulf, expecting to become a hurricane. The goons at the Weather Channel are giddy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 03, 2018 01:10 PM (ptqGC)

41 35
This while the Fed has been raising rates.



Obama got eight years of ZIRP and couldn't get out of stalled neutral

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (9oKan)

The economy under O stalled like an airplane stalls...downward.

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:11 PM (gjGvH)

42 People have three jobs now just to get by.

Posted by: Alexandria Ocasio Cortpez dispenser at September 03, 2018 01:11 PM (1uG1d)

43 15 Note, this is actual growth, not growth artificially created by Quantitative Easing.

Posted by: Don Q at September 03, 2018 01:06 PM (NgKpN)

Or propping up green energy companies and assorted tech ventures, which is what the Obama regime did. They basically tried to build an entire state financed economy by dumping money into shit like Solyndra.

I still think one of the reasons Faceborg's stock tanked so badly and why Elon Musk is in serious trouble is because Trump's administration isn't funneling money into their ventures.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:11 PM (4ErVI)

44 >>Obama got eight years of ZIRP and couldn't get out of stalled neutral


Obama was doing everything he could to keep growth as low as possible.

Obama's plan was redistribution through liquidation of holdings. He basically had our economy under seige to punish the 'haves'.

Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:11 PM (psQxy)

45
You know when the fvcknuts in the Senate decided to give the economy away to China and 60,000 American factories became deserted, did they ever once figure that into their projections?

No need to build more factories, fewer construction jobs, local hit to economies, tax loss to local economies, etc...

Yet, somehow through some miraculous process, that borders on transubstantiation, these Senators all got wealthy as shit. Except Biden.

They knew he would never be able to keep his mouth shut.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 01:12 PM (LOgQ4)

46 Growing like Bill Clinton while leering at hot, young female singers.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at September 03, 2018 01:12 PM (EF/5S)

47 Our profits have increased one thousandfold since Election Day.

Posted by: Chappaqua Wine and Liquor at September 03, 2018 01:12 PM (QSdIk)

48
Hilarious: watch this racist terrorist muslim fascist cocksucker from back in June 2016:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZVJExOiP9k

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:12 PM (rW4yT)

49 Can I guess a raise to 4.8 next quarter?

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2018 01:12 PM (T4oHT)

50 One of the Impeach!!! channels interviewed some idiot on the street who claimed to have been a Trump supporter, until he "saw the direction he's taking the country."

Who in their right damned mind hates the direction the economy is going???

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 03, 2018 01:12 PM (ptqGC)

51 Been nice numbers so far for President Trump, except for one poor quarter. I hope it continues, but there are so many ways to force the economy downward that are hovering out there at the edges

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 01:12 PM (39g3+)

52 This is why we need to give the House to Pelosi and the Dems because "There is too much consuming going on out there" !!!! This is a direct result id Obama's economic plane. just took ten years to work.... People...

Posted by: Dr. Strangelove at September 03, 2018 01:13 PM (qM84C)

53 Trump Inflates Economy Figures

Walls closing in on real 3% numbers. Some experts say impeachment is inevitable.

Posted by: THIS... is ☭ℿℿ - bananas all the way down at September 03, 2018 01:13 PM (lFi5f)

54 Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:11 PM (psQxy)

Redefining full time work becuz Obamacare hurt a lot of people quite badly. Truly an amazing thing to see all these people complaining about having to cobble together forty hours with two or more jobs and not seeing Obamacare discussed as the major driver for this problem.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:13 PM (4ErVI)

55 Barry did say this will never happen again, his best people told him so.

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2018 01:13 PM (T4oHT)

56 49
Can I guess a raise to 4.8 next quarter?

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2018 01:12 PM (T4oHT)

Expect news stories of how Trump will cause interest rates to rise (but no concomitant mention of why that is done to keep the economy from heating up too fast).

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:13 PM (gjGvH)

57 Obama got eight years of ZIRP and couldn't get out of stalled neutral
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (9oKan)

It's way worse than that. Years of ZIRP, trillions of QE, and energy boom in spite of his environmental bullcrap and a transformational technology in mobile communications.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at September 03, 2018 01:14 PM (jp0Bv)

58


June 2016:

"Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What exactly are you going to do? There's no answer to it," Obama said.
"He
just says, 'Well, I'm going to negotiate a better deal.' Well, what,
how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you
have? And usually the answer is, he doesn't have an answer."




Hahahahahaha!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:14 PM (rW4yT)

59 Note, this is actual growth, not growth artificially created by Quantitative Easing.

Which is why da Fed has been raising interest rates, and then they can blame Trump for inflation. The Federal Reserve and fractional-reserve banking is one of the worst policies our government has ever implemented.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 03, 2018 01:14 PM (v1udk)

60 During Barry's reign of economy terror the first report would be something like 2.3% which was much heralded as the greatest ever. A month later in very whispered tones it was knocked down to 2.1% and barely mentioned would be the final number of 1.8%.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 03, 2018 01:14 PM (SiINZ)

61 You bribe Biden by bribing his kids. Joe has a shrewd reptile brain

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 03, 2018 01:14 PM (9oKan)

62 Who in their right damned mind hates the direction the economy is going???

My guess is they think the nation is becoming more rayciss or something.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 01:14 PM (39g3+)

63 Eh, I'm not impressed. We still have deficit spending out the wazoo, and Congress is showing no sign of ever becoming responsible adults.

This will not end well.

Posted by: rickl at September 03, 2018 01:14 PM (sdi6R)

64 attacking Richard Trumka on Labor Day

Who wouldn't want to attack that greedy thug pig who gets fat off the forced transfer of the wealth of others? He's the embodiment of everything he claims to oppose.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 03, 2018 01:15 PM (NWiLs)

65 Who in their right damned mind hates the direction the economy is going???

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 03, 2018 01:12 PM (ptqGC)

Uh, multinational billionaires and the whores who love them?

They are widely considered the only importsnt Americans.

Posted by: trev006 at September 03, 2018 01:15 PM (3Tn95)

66 >>Why did Trump "monkey things up" by attacking Richard Trumka on Labor Day?

Said nobody. Ever.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 03, 2018 01:15 PM (/tuJf)

67 The donuts take a lickin' and keep on stickin'!

Posted by: Bubba Clintoon at September 03, 2018 01:15 PM (Tyii7)

68 Bbbbut tariffs. Or tarragon.

Or something.

BTW, Houston area weather folk are despondent over said storm's (yeah, we name rainstorms now) path being moved east...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 03, 2018 01:15 PM (6qErC)

69
*cue ominous tremolando*

The Specter of Inflation!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 01:15 PM (LsBY9)

70 Tropical Storm Gordon is heading into the Gulf, expecting to become a hurricane. The goons at the Weather Channel are giddy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 03, 2018 01:10 PM


They're probably cheering the tropical storm on. Hurricane season is now about half over and they have just about nothing to show for it.

Yet, somehow, they'll blame lack of hurricanes on global warming.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 01:15 PM (LOgQ4)

71 This while the Fed has been raising rates.

Obama got eight years of ZIRP and couldn't get out of stalled neutral
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (9oKan)

Well, the gay mulatto never could operate a stick. A dick, sure, but not a stick.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 03, 2018 01:15 PM (9BLnV)

72 I asked my son if he got stressed out at Boy Scout camp because I'd heard it was intense (in tents).

It was not appreciated.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 03, 2018 01:16 PM (oVJmc)

73

"Economy fails to grow even 1%!!!!!11!!"

Posted by: ProgTard CNN at September 03, 2018 01:16 PM (UFLLM)

74
Everyone knows that GDP is racist. So that's why even with the massive QE the economy and job market was crappy during Barry's economic golden age

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 03, 2018 01:16 PM (SiINZ)

75 Remember when the numbers always got revised down?

Good times, good times.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 03, 2018 01:02 PM (dEQP3)
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Quietly, and several days later, usually around 8 pm on a Friday night. Yes, I remember.

Posted by: bluebell at September 03, 2018 01:16 PM (JJZzu)

76 They knew he would never be able to keep his mouth shut.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 01:12 PM (LOgQ4)

Well, in fairness, given his gropey tendencies, would you trust your plots to his self control?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at September 03, 2018 01:16 PM (jp0Bv)

77 Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 01:12 PM (LOgQ4)

It's just not economics. These communities took a social hit because these factories left. The opioid epidemic is a direct result of a loss of a good way to earn a living. Families destroyed, traditions destroyed, etc.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:17 PM (4ErVI)

78
Obama's plan was redistribution through liquidation of holdings. He basically had our economy under seige to punish the 'haves'.
Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:11 PM (psQxy)

The problem was, he was punishing the middle class haves, because all his ultra rich buddies were doing just fine.

Posted by: moki at September 03, 2018 01:17 PM (mFoNl)

79 Who in their right damned mind hates the direction the economy is going???
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 03, 2018 01:12 PM


* raises hands *

Posted by: Democratic Underground and Daily Kos at September 03, 2018 01:17 PM (DMUuz)

80 Growth beats redistribution as a way of putting wealth into more people's hands.

But more self-sufficient people is not what the ruling class is all about, is it?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 03, 2018 01:17 PM (oVJmc)

81

test





Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:17 PM (rW4yT)

82 3
Barry's glorious economy miracle has finally arrived, comrades!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan


Yup, it's recovery summer, baby!

Posted by: pep at September 03, 2018 01:17 PM (T6t7i)

83 Why did Trump "monkey things up" by attacking Richard Trumka on Labor Day?
Posted by: Curious at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (3iIjx)

Who Richard Trumka?

Posted by: The Average American Voter at September 03, 2018 01:17 PM (QSdIk)

84 Ohio State is being very hard on the Beavers.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 03, 2018 01:17 PM (/tuJf)

85 Eh, I'm not impressed. We still have deficit spending out the wazoo, and Congress is showing no sign of ever becoming responsible adults.

Yeah there are real problems still and until congress gets its act together and gets serious about the problems this is not going to end well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 01:18 PM (39g3+)

86 But ... but ... it could be even BETTER if Democrats were running things. Remember those halcyon days of 0.0002% growth? We could be enjoying that again. Vote Democrat!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:18 PM (YqDXo)

87 Obama's plan was redistribution through liquidation of holdings. "

Oh, I know - let's trash the automobile sector and call ita catchy name, like "cash for clunkers"

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 03, 2018 01:18 PM (6qErC)

88 One of the Impeach!!! channels interviewed some idiot on the street who claimed to have been a Trump supporter, until he "saw the direction he's taking the country."

Who in their right damned mind hates the direction the economy is going???
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 03, 2018 01:12 PM (ptqGC)

He meant that he was an "athletic supporter" for Trump.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 03, 2018 01:18 PM (9BLnV)

89 71
This while the Fed has been raising rates.



Obama got eight years of ZIRP and couldn't get out of stalled neutral

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (9oKan)



Well, the gay mulatto never could operate a stick. A dick, sure, but not a stick.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 03, 2018 01:15 PM (9BLnV)

I'm sure there's an Obama grabbing Trump's magic stick joke in here somewhere.

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:19 PM (gjGvH)

90 Expect news stories of how Trump will cause interest rates to rise (but no concomitant mention of why that is done to keep the economy from heating up too fast).

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:13 PM (gjGvH)

Rising interest rates?

NO!

Why would anyone want savers and seniors on fixed income and budgets to benefit in any way? Perish the thought!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:19 PM (4ErVI)

91 I thought revisions we're always down?

Posted by: Jean at September 03, 2018 01:19 PM (j0Mw7)

92 Who knew that when Barry mockingly asked Trump what his magic wand was for growing the economy, the answer was "take everything you've done and feed it into a wood chipper"?

Posted by: pep at September 03, 2018 01:19 PM (T6t7i)

93 Eh, I'm not impressed. We still have deficit spending out the wazoo, and Congress is showing no sign of ever becoming responsible adults.

This will not end well.


I hate to agree with you, but we've been collecting record taxes nearly every month, yet we still run deficit. Trump should've vetoed that last budget.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 03, 2018 01:19 PM (v1udk)

94 They're probably cheering the tropical storm on. Hurricane season is now
about half over and they have just about nothing to show for it.


We all know that's because Trump has bribed the Joo Weather Controllers with hookers and blow.

Posted by: This...Is CNN at September 03, 2018 01:19 PM (jDF8P)

95
test2


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (rW4yT)

96
Tax cuts have starved the government of vital funding!!1!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (LsBY9)

97 And then follow that success story with the "affordable care act "

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (6qErC)

98
Alternate poat title:


Abracadabra, punk!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (rW4yT)

99 willowed:

264 Rest is well known as one of the best ways to heal and yet when you're at a house of healing you get less rest than usual.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 12:58 PM (39g3+)


That's why hospitals are no places for sick people. Resting at home is a lot better than getting woke up at 4AM because somebody ordered a blood draw, but nobody can tell you who ordered it or why it was ordered.

Ask me how I know.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (n8uaa)

100 "It really does now look like President Donald J. Trump, and markets are plunging. When might we expect them to recover?

Frankly, I find it hard to care much, even though this is my specialty. The disaster for America and the world has so many aspects that the economic ramifications are way down my list of things to fear.

Still, I guess people want an answer: If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never."

-Paul Krugman, Nov. 9, 2016

Posted by: Miklos, sometime economist at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (zCyNd)

101 Families destroyed, traditions destroyed, etc.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:17 PM


To be fair, the 'traditions' intent was targeted at those religion- and guns-clinging traditions.

Posted by: The JEF at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (DMUuz)

102 Ohio State is being very hard on the Beavers.

Oh, for heaven's sake, Ward!

Posted by: Zombie June Cleaver at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (Tyii7)

103 93
Eh, I'm not impressed. We still have deficit spending out the wazoo,
and Congress is showing no sign of ever becoming responsible adults.



This will not end well.



I hate to agree with you, but we've been collecting record taxes
nearly every month, yet we still run deficit. Trump should've vetoed
that last budget.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 03, 2018 01:19 PM (v1udk)

The congressional swine at the public trough will not give up their swill.

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:21 PM (gjGvH)

104 Note, this is actual growth, not growth artificially created by Quantitative Easing.

"Quantitative easing" was performed to provide air cover for "Barry," because without it keeping the economy afloat, the economy would have gone into a deep recession, possibly a depression.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:21 PM (YqDXo)

105 The problem was, he was punishing the middle class haves, because all his ultra rich buddies were doing just fine.

Yeah, exactly. His policies kept aiming at the rich and landing on the middle class. The richest became much richer under QE.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 01:21 PM (39g3+)

106 37 If we can hold the line for the mid-terms, things might just get Great.
Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:10 PM (psQxy)
----------------------------
Yep.
Unfortunately, many (if not most) voters are not very good at connecting the dots.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 03, 2018 01:21 PM (0jtPF)

107 I believe, as in 99.9% of all such cases, that Trump was *reacting* to an attack or something from Trump-ka (heh).


In any case, I think Trumka and his ilk must know that their membership is, for the most part, wildly wildly happy about Trump's economic policies and their immediate effects.


Heard some survey numbers last week for life on right track/country on right track/optimism for childrens' prospects, and they were stunning. Mid 80s for some questions. This was among "blue collar" demo.


We'll see, but I think Trump's support among organized labor (real labor, not govt. unions) will make Nixon's and Reagan's grass-roots support vs. the "leadership" look like nothing.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 01:21 PM (QDnY+)

108 99
willowed:

264 Rest is well known as one of the best ways to heal and yet when you're at a house of healing you get less rest than usual.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 12:58 PM (39g3+)

That's
why hospitals are no places for sick people. Resting at home is a lot
better than getting woke up at 4AM because somebody ordered a blood
draw, but nobody can tell you who ordered it or why it was ordered.

Ask me how I know.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (n8uaa)

My favorite is being awakened to take a sleeping pill. Genius!

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:21 PM (gjGvH)

109 And tie it all up with "shovel ready jobs" and call it "opportunity"


Funemployment for all!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 03, 2018 01:22 PM (6qErC)

110 test2


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (rW4yT)

When I was in school the Teachers had enough common sense not to give tests on Mondays, let alone Labor Day.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 03, 2018 01:22 PM (QSdIk)

111

HUMA! I just Quantitatively Eased my Depends again! And it's a gusher! HUMA!

*Huma: I better get a chalet in Switzerland, a condo in Mecca and the Bank Account of a Grateful People for this assignment... being a loyal deep cover mole only goes so far...*

Posted by: Hitlery Cliton at September 03, 2018 01:22 PM (UFLLM)

112 Huh.

I'm only seeing a 4.1% increase in the number of $15/hour shovels out there.

Posted by: Fritz at September 03, 2018 01:22 PM (ANJe6)

113 They're probably cheering the tropical storm on.
Hurricane season is now about half over and they have just about nothing
to show for it.



Yet, somehow, they'll blame lack of hurricanes on global warming.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 01:15 PM (LOgQ4)


Sadly, it's just heating up. There's a potential hurricane in the Atlantic that may or may not be aimed at the Mid-Atlantic, and two more big storms coming off the coast of Africa. The one year anniversary of Irma is Sept. 10, and the two year anniversary of Matthew is October 7.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 03, 2018 01:22 PM (ptqGC)

114 We are in a war of sorts with China. We need to bury them the way we buried the Soviet Union. Real GDP growth of 4% or better is key.

I'm not Steve Bannon but I occassionally play him on blog sites

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 03, 2018 01:22 PM (xH9kp)

115 100 "It really does now look like President Donald J. Trump, and markets are plunging. When might we expect them to recover?

Frankly, I find it hard to care much, even though this is my specialty. The disaster for America and the world has so many aspects that the economic ramifications are way down my list of things to fear.

Still, I guess people want an answer: If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never."

-Paul Krugman, Nov. 9, 2016
Posted by: Miklos, sometime economist at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (zCyNd)


This just in: Paul Krugman points out that the stock market has stalled today. Maybe this is the beginning of the crash? He can only hope.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:22 PM (YqDXo)

116 Hmm. I see here in the want ads a psychic reader position is open. Think I'll give 'em a call.

Posted by: Paul Krugman at September 03, 2018 01:23 PM (Tyii7)

117 It's just not economics. These communities took a social hit because these factories left. The opioid epidemic is a direct result of a loss of a good way to earn a living. Families destroyed, traditions destroyed, etc.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:17 PM


Not only that. Those factories predominately provided health insurance to the five million workers who lost their jobs. AND THEIR FAMILIES -- which in my quick estimation is about twenty million people. A decade later Obama is talking about twenty million uninsured and wins the election with some pie-in-the-sky mandated national 'health care'.

How could these fvckers not know this would happen?

I can only assume the IQ of a US Senator is about 75.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 01:23 PM (LOgQ4)

118 "Quantitative easing" was performed to provide air cover for "Barry," because without it keeping the economy afloat, the economy would have gone into a deep recession, possibly a depression.

Yeah, that and fracking, which to give him faint credit, Barry O'Bama was smart enough to not block.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 01:23 PM (39g3+)

119 Question:

What percentage of people who advocate or desire left-wing economics (a.k.a. "socialists") do so out of envy or greed (i.e. "Give me the money earned by that more successful person"), versus those who in all sincerity think it's a valid economic system that will benefit all (i.e. "If everybody shares, then everybody's happy")?

Vote:

__% of socialists are just greedy and envious

__of socialists naively think it's a valid and successful economic scheme.

Posted by: zombie at September 03, 2018 01:23 PM (c+2jX)

120
Ace, please photochop our dear president in a Wizard's hat and wand.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:23 PM (rW4yT)

121 Does McCain now qualify as a "Shovel ready job"?

Posted by: Miklos, spade in hand at September 03, 2018 01:24 PM (zCyNd)

122 Frankly, I find it hard to care much, even though this is my specialty. The disaster for America and the world has so many aspects that the economic ramifications are way down my list of things to fear.

Still, I guess people want an answer: If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never."

-Paul Krugman, Nov. 9, 2016
Posted by: Miklos, sometime economist at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (zCyNd)


It's your specialty, and you got it so spectacularly, unequivocally wrong? Aren't you embarrassed in the least?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:24 PM (YqDXo)

123 110
test2





Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (rW4yT)



When I was in school the Teachers had enough common sense not to give tests on Mondays, let alone Labor Day.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 03, 2018 01:22 PM (QSdIk)
Heh. I was watching the original Willy Wonka Movie, and at one point the teacher tell the kids they will be tested on Monday on material they will be taught later in the week.

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:24 PM (gjGvH)

124 Grinding the middle class down between the millstones of taxation and inflation.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 03, 2018 01:24 PM (NWiLs)

125 "Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What exactly are you going to do? There's no answer to it," Obama said. "He just says, 'Well, I'm going to negotiate a better deal.' Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn't have an answer."
Hahahahahaha!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:14 PM
~~~~~~

Have you seen the meme on this? Top pic is of Obama saying this, and the bottom pic is of Trump with the caption:

"Abracadabra, b1tch!"

LOL

Posted by: IrishEi at September 03, 2018 01:25 PM (Ri0Ku)

126

HUMA! While you're down there...

Posted by: Hitlery Cliton at September 03, 2018 01:25 PM (UFLLM)

127 Barry O'Bama was smart enough to not block"

Didn't know it was happening.

Seriously. DC had no clue what was going on. Had they known, the media blitz would have been on...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 03, 2018 01:25 PM (6qErC)

128 Ask me how I know.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at September 03, 2018 01:20 PM (n8uaa)

My favorite is being awakened to take a sleeping pill. Genius!

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:21 PM (gjGvH)

In for appendix back in 2004 and they're concerned because I'm not using the morphine drip (?). So I just start doing it and then hey you sure are using that morphine drip.

You can't win with those people. The best thing is to get out of their as fast as possible. One way to unfuck the stupidity is just get up and start acting like you're going to leave no matter what (obviously won't work if you're in a coma). They'll usually cut the bullshit at that point if they know you're pissed enough to just say fuck it and go.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:25 PM (4ErVI)

129 I can only assume the IQ of a US Senator is about 75.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 01:23 PM (LOgQ4)

75 is much higher than the combined IQ of the entire Senate.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 03, 2018 01:25 PM (QSdIk)

130
Have you seen the meme on this? Top pic is of Obama saying this, and the bottom pic is of Trump with the caption:



"Abracadabra, b1tch!"



LOL

Posted by: IrishEi



Ace should've posted it!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:26 PM (rW4yT)

131 Think the Fed/big finance would have done what they did regardless of who was/was about to prez.


The various ridiculous responses to 2008 did zero to address the causes of that speed bump, ensured that almost no failed/responsible entities disappeared or were changed, and probably cost the economy years of normal growth through *negative* "reforms" like Dodd-Frank.


Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 01:26 PM (QDnY+)

132 Barry was so convinced that he and his minions know better than anyone how to get economic growth.

I like to watch Shark Tank, because it's a lot like pitching a science proposal. Those guys will shred someone who is unprepared and talking out of their ass. Pity nobody ever had the stones to do that with Barry. Not only does he not have a clue how an economy works, he couldn't even do the much simpler job of separating the wheat from the chaff with the folks who pitch their ideas to the sharks.

I'm always amused at the millenials who come in and pitch a lousy idea but think "it's really green" will sell it. You ignorant douches, business is about green, but money, not your virtues. Barry never understood that.

Posted by: pep at September 03, 2018 01:26 PM (T6t7i)

133 Aren't you embarrassed in the least?"

Nope.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 03, 2018 01:26 PM (6qErC)

134 Has Canada come back to the negotiating table yet or are they still thinking nafta is an option?

Posted by: IC at September 03, 2018 01:26 PM (S6dPn)

135 Barry's new normal hardest hit.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 03, 2018 01:26 PM (p0nVR)

136 While forecasting solid growth of around 3 percent this year, economists
contend that this performance is being pumped up for now by the $1.5
trillion tax cut Trump pushed through Congress last year


While the article postures this as if its bad, I think even the AP is starting to get the economics lesson.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 03, 2018 01:27 PM (CaRQc)

137 Trump with a wand

https://i.redd.it/y5q0syoeroby.jpg

Not the finest work, I could probably do better if I hadn't torn up my right arm.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 01:27 PM (39g3+)

138
I can only assume the IQ of a US Senator is about 75.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic


When Harry Truman arrived in the Senate in 1935, Illinois senator J. Hamilton Lewis greeted him, saying, "Don't worry, Harry. The first six months you'll wonder how you got here. After that you'll wonder how the rest of us did."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 01:27 PM (LsBY9)

139 129
I can only assume the IQ of a US Senator is about 75.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 01:23 PM (LOgQ4)



75 is much higher than the combined IQ of the entire Senate.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 03, 2018 01:25 PM (QSdIk)

Did McCain's passing help the average?

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:27 PM (gjGvH)

140 In fairness, the zeks at work on my canals do tend to drive down the average hourly wage for work of this nature.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 03, 2018 01:27 PM (fA1SL)

141 It's your specialty, and you got it so spectacularly, unequivocally wrong? Aren't you embarrassed in the least?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:24 PM (YqDXo)

It is interesting, but not surprising, as to what particular economic work got Krugman his Nobel.

In short, back in the 90's he predicted that the US auto sector would be unassailable world champions because of the beneficial effect of labor unions in the auto sector, and and production of components nearby in the US.

So Krugman has been known to get things wrong, and has been rewarded for it.

Posted by: Miklos, spade in hand at September 03, 2018 01:28 PM (zCyNd)

142 119 Question:

What percentage of people who advocate or desire left-wing economics (a.k.a. "socialists") do so out of envy or greed (i.e. "Give me the money earned by that more successful person"), versus those who in all sincerity think it's a valid economic system that will benefit all (i.e. "If everybody shares, then everybody's happy")?

Vote:

__% of socialists are just greedy and envious

__of socialists naively think it's a valid and successful economic scheme.
Posted by: zombie at September 03, 2018 01:23 PM (c+2jX)


I think implicitly those advocating it assume that they'll be the beneficiaries of largesse, not the providers of it.

A young black friend of mine (who's actually well off) talked about how we should "help the poor." I pointed out that Africans were much much poorer than African Americans, so we should tax the latter to provide "help" to the former.

A long silence ensued.

"You see, you presumed African Americans would be the beneficiaries of the help, not the providers of it. Places things in a rather different light, doesn't it?"

He admitted, it did.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:28 PM (YqDXo)

143 Frankly, I find it hard to care much, even though this is my specialty. The disaster for America and the world has so many aspects that the economic ramifications are way down my list of things to fear.

Still, I guess people want an answer: If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never."

-Paul Krugman, Nov. 9, 2016
Posted by: Miklos



Dear Paul,

At no time in that rambling dissertation did you ever come close to making a point. We are all dumber for having read it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

You should be barred for life from ever making an economic prognostication.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2018 01:28 PM (21UM+)

144 We have had some dumb politicians and still do but Obama is whole new level of stupid.

Posted by: IC at September 03, 2018 01:28 PM (S6dPn)

145 119
100% of socialists are just greedy and envious

Posted by: zombie at September 03, 2018 01:23 PM (c+2jX)


Socialism directly violates at least half of the Ten Commandments.

Posted by: rickl at September 03, 2018 01:28 PM (sdi6R)

146
You know when the fvcknuts in the Senate decided to give the economy away to China and 60,000 American factories became deserted, did they ever once figure that into their projections?

No need to build more factories, fewer construction jobs, local hit to economies, tax loss to local economies, etc...


The future was to be in "information technology."
We would all work in cubicles and be "coders."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 03, 2018 01:28 PM (IqV8l)

147 AOSHQ Stylebook requires all references to be Former ENRON Adviser Paul Krugman

Posted by: Insomniac at September 03, 2018 01:28 PM (NWiLs)

148 >>Why did Trump "monkey things up" by attacking Richard Trumka on Labor Day?
-------------------------
Trumka attacked him by making the absurd claim that Trump's policies are hurting workers.

Trump called out his lie.

So, yes, Trump failed to meekly accept a punch in the jaw, which, by the left-wing standards you and the MSM espouse, constitutes an "attack" on the assailant.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 03, 2018 01:29 PM (0jtPF)

149 Has Canada come back to the negotiating table yet or are they still thinking nafta is an option?"

Their fearful leader is deciding on what types of garments to wear...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 03, 2018 01:29 PM (6qErC)

150 "Quantitative easing" was performed to provide air cover for "Barry," because without it keeping the economy afloat, the economy would have gone into a deep recession, possibly a depression.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:21 PM (YqDXo)



The economy didn't really recover from 2008. Numbers were propped up and massaged but the job market was garbage. The markets did well because of the QE but nothing during Barry's reign was really good

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 03, 2018 01:29 PM (SiINZ)

151
The first episode of Magnum is on.
Cozi channel.

It originally aired December 11, 1980.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:29 PM (rW4yT)

152 Not only that. Those factories predominately provided health insurance to the five million workers who lost their jobs. AND THEIR FAMILIES -- which in my quick estimation is about twenty million people. A decade later Obama is talking about twenty million uninsured and wins the election with some pie-in-the-sky mandated national 'health care'.

How could these fvckers not know this would happen?

I can only assume the IQ of a US Senator is about 75.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 01:23 PM (LOgQ4)



What makes you think that wasn't the plan all along?

I've got to tell you, the last few years have made me more inclined to believe the craaazzzy crazies than I ever was before.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 03, 2018 01:30 PM (dEQP3)

153 In short, back in the 90's he predicted that the US auto sector would be unassailable world champions because of the beneficial effect of labor unions in the auto sector, and and production of components nearby in the US.

So Krugman has been known to get things wrong, and has been rewarded for it.
Posted by: Miklos, spade in hand at September 03, 2018 01:28 PM (zCyNd)


I remember when Lester Thurow claimed that Europe would be the economic powerhouse, the new hegemon as he put it, owing to their social policies and, of course, formation of the then nascent EU.

Oopsie.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:30 PM (YqDXo)

154 100% of socialists are just greedy and envious

Marxism is revenge fantasy.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 03, 2018 01:30 PM (oVJmc)

155 Four out of five Economists recommend, "WHARRGARBL!"

Posted by: Tumor-At-Large at September 03, 2018 01:30 PM (ANJe6)

156 Did McCain's passing help the average?"

10 point bump

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 03, 2018 01:30 PM (6qErC)

157 148
>>Why did Trump "monkey things up" by attacking Richard Trumka on Labor Day?

-------------------------

Trumka attacked him by making the absurd claim that Trump's policies are hurting workers.



Trump called out his lie.



So, yes, Trump failed to meekly accept a punch in the jaw, which, by
the left-wing standards you and the MSM espouse, constitutes an
"attack" on the assailant.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 03, 2018 01:29 PM (0jtPF)

His jaw hit my fist. Honestly, that's what happened. There was no reason for him to hit back at me.

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:30 PM (gjGvH)

158 >>Has Canada come back to the negotiating table yet or are they still thinking nafta is an option?"


I don't think that Loon(y) is gonna come back up for air, unless they do.

Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:30 PM (/f8jc)

159 Has Canada come back to the negotiating table yet or are they still thinking nafta is an option?"

Their fearful leader is deciding on what types of garments to wear...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 03, 2018 01:29 PM (6qErC)



Talks start again on Wednesday. Junior will be in an Elsie the Cow costume because they'll be talking about dairy

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 03, 2018 01:31 PM (SiINZ)

160 The corporate tax cut was a jobs bill, seriously

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 03, 2018 01:31 PM (H5o7K)

161 The future was to be in "information technology."
We would all work in cubicles and be "coders."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 03, 2018 01:28 PM (IqV8l)


Que?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:31 PM (YqDXo)

162 >>The first episode of Magnum is on.


Nice!

Let us know when TC fires up the Chopper.

Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:31 PM (/f8jc)

163 Has Canada come back to the negotiating table yet or are they still thinking nafta is an option?

"Hold on I have to paste this eyebrow back on"
--Justin Castro Trudeau

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 01:31 PM (39g3+)

164 I can only assume the IQ of a US Senator is about 75.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 01:23 PM (LOgQ4)



75 is much higher than the combined IQ of the entire Senate.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 03, 2018 01:25 PM (QSdIk)

Did McCain's passing help the average?
Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:27 PM (gjGvH)

It had a negligible impact.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 03, 2018 01:31 PM (QSdIk)

165 I remember when Lester Thurow claimed that Europe would be the economic
powerhouse, the new hegemon as he put it, owing to their social policies
and, of course, formation of the then nascent EU.



Oopsie.


I remember (well, I've read) when John Kenneth Galbraith praised the USSR for its economic vitality.

Posted by: pep at September 03, 2018 01:31 PM (T6t7i)

166 So, yes, Trump failed to meekly accept a punch in the jaw"

See, that's unpresidential!

/Rove

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 03, 2018 01:31 PM (6qErC)

167 This is nothing. America was already great.
Has never been great.
Will be great once all the white people are dead.
Will never be great.
Needs socialism to be great.

*burbles lower lip with index finger*

* denounces random passerby as Nazi, clubs to the ground with metal rod used as a flag pole*

Posted by: Progressive Shitbag at September 03, 2018 01:31 PM (t5m5e)

168 Feds did not help fracking at all, and tried to hinder it - almost all growth took place on private land or land beyond the reach of Fed interference.


Obama - sit down for this - is not very smart. His economic illiteracy - very common in the political class and nearly uniform among his ilk - was obviously just the tip of the iceberg. Uninteresting, uninformed, incurious, and unworldly. As I have said for years.


One direct exposure to him sufficed to size him up - as a tiny figure. The (inexplicable) arrogance also was almost comically extreme.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 01:32 PM (QDnY+)

169 he growing the economy when he is not rounding up and murdering people

https://tinyurl.com/yatf7nbc

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 03, 2018 01:32 PM (JFO2v)

170 ZEUS!

APOLLO!

Posted by: Higgy Baby at September 03, 2018 01:32 PM (/f8jc)

171 Did McCain's passing help the average?"

10 point bump

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 03, 2018 01:30 PM


Which will be 'unexpectedly' upwardly revised even higher in another month.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 01:32 PM (LOgQ4)

172 I've got to tell you, the last few years have made me more inclined to believe the craaazzzy crazies than I ever was before.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 03, 2018 01:30 PM (dEQP3)


This.

I'm beginning to think the crazies underestimated the depth of the depravity.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:32 PM (YqDXo)

173 Obama was doing everything he could to keep growth as low as possible.



Obama's plan was redistribution through liquidation of holdings.
He basically had our economy under seige to punish the 'haves'.

Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:11 PM (psQxy)


The south african model.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 03, 2018 01:32 PM (9Om/r)

174
Oh!

You hear this?

Fake News today: "Report" says Eliz Warren's
native American heritage had nothing to do with her getting hired by Harvard Law.



Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:33 PM (rW4yT)

175 Que?"

No, sometimes side by side.

*get it?*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 03, 2018 01:33 PM (6qErC)

176 >>The south african model.


Don't Oggle it!

Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:33 PM (/f8jc)

177 as the fifth beatle said

nuthin from nuthin leaves nuthin

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 03, 2018 01:34 PM (JFO2v)

178 172 I've got to tell you, the last few years have made me more inclined to believe the craaazzzy crazies than I ever was before.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 03, 2018 01:30 PM (dEQP3)

This.

I'm beginning to think the crazies underestimated the depth of the depravity.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:32 PM (YqDXo)

Same here. I always liked to keep up the conspiracy stuff because it's entertaining and also fascinating to see where some peoples' minds go, but shit's starting to make sense in ways I never imagined.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:34 PM (4ErVI)

179 What makes you think that wasn't the plan all along?

It was always the plan. Destroy or at least hobble the private sector, manufacture a "crisis," then have government swoop in to save the day.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 03, 2018 01:35 PM (NWiLs)

180 Wait...is thie LIVE ACE or just a 'Best Of' style clip show?

Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:35 PM (/f8jc)

181 168
Obama - sit down for this - is not very smart. His economic
illiteracy - very common in the political class and nearly uniform among
his ilk - was obviously just the tip of the iceberg. Uninteresting,
uninformed, incurious, and unworldly. As I have said for years.


Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 01:32 PM (QDnY+)

Loved how Obama saw dead people on Memorial day that one year; they were all around him. And of course, the Marine "Corpse" gaff. Yeah, real genius there. QE mostly helped his cronies as well, so no different that most swampy politicians, except for his "transparency" and "ethics" being second to none.

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:35 PM (gjGvH)

182
This fake "report" by Harvard is extra hilarious because it comes at the same time they are lying bigly about screwing over Asian Oriental applicants.


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:35 PM (rW4yT)

183 Fake News today: "Report" says Eliz Warren's
native American heritage had nothing to do with her getting hired by Harvard Law.

Forget it, Jake. It's The Boston Globe...

Posted by: tu3031 at September 03, 2018 01:36 PM (jDF8P)

184
Yeah, that and fracking, which to give him faint credit, Barry O'Bama was smart enough to not block.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 01:23 PM (39g3+)







Not quite. He didn't directly attack fracking, but he and the rest of his commie cocksucker minions carried out a lot of indirect action to try to kill fracking. For example, killing the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines was an overt attempt to make N Dakota fracking prohibitively expensive.

Plenty of other examples, but that's probably the most obvious.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 03, 2018 01:36 PM (eXA4G)

185 153
I remember when Lester Thurow claimed that Europe would be the economic powerhouse, the new hegemon as he put it, owing to their social policies and, of course, formation of the then nascent EU.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:30 PM (YqDXo)


Yeah, let's just ignore the part about how they were able to build their welfare states because America footed the bill for their defense.

Posted by: rickl at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (sdi6R)

186 174Oh!

You hear this?

Fake News today: "Report" says Eliz Warren's
native American heritage had nothing to do with her getting hired by Harvard Law.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:33 PM (rW4yT)
Yes, and Kamala Harris' rise in Cali had nothing to do with her "relationship" with Willie Brown.

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (gjGvH)

187 Poor Canada, they really picked a bad time to go back to the Utterly Clueless Idiot in Office model.


Like western Europe, Canada has long been able to make bad decisions or be irresponsible and not pay any price, as they are completely under the US wing for security, and mostly an extension of our economy.


Unfortunately that "mostly" part can sting when the US changes course and you decide you can out-maneuver or otherwise manage to avoid dealing with that new course.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (QDnY+)

188 Obama - sit down for this - is not very smart. His economic illiteracy - very common in the political class and nearly uniform among his ilk - was obviously just the tip of the iceberg. Uninteresting, uninformed, incurious, and unworldly. As I have said for years.

One direct exposure to him sufficed to size him up - as a tiny figure. The (inexplicable) arrogance also was almost comically extreme.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 01:32 PM (QDnY+)


Wait - you mean that the guy who taught us about "profit and earnings ratios" didn't have a stranglehold on economics?

That the guy who did not understand the difference between liability and comprehensive auto insurance was not overly bright?

That the "leader of the free world" did not know in which country Auschwitz had been located, or what language is spoken in Austria?

Srsly, it was obvious even at this remove that Obama was not very bright. I don't believe the poverty of his expression was not a conscious detuning to match his audience, and that, coupled with his failure ever to engage in abstract thought, was definitely a tip off.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (YqDXo)

189 >>>The first episode of Magnum is on.
Cozi channel.
It originally aired December 11, 1980.Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:29 PM (rW4yT)<<<



December 11, 1980, a mustache that will live in infamy...

Posted by: zombie FDR at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (EF/5S)

190 It's snowing. Sept. 3 and it's snowing.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (nBr1j)

191 There's definitely something hinky with the LV shooting and now that Jihad compound in NM.

Looks like stuff's being hidden because it'll make someone in the government look bad.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (4ErVI)

192 60 During Barry's reign of economy terror the first report would be something like 2.3% which was much heralded as the greatest ever. A month later in very whispered tones it was knocked down to 2.1% and barely mentioned would be the final number of 1.8%.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 03, 2018 01:14 PM (SiINZ)



Same with job growth. I remember one month they announced the number of jobs added. And then they announced the revision for the previous two months. They were both revised down by about the exact same number of jobs added.

Posted by: buzzion at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (cAnNx)

193 Yes, and Kamala Harris' rise in Cali had nothing to do with her "relationship" with Willie Brown.

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (gjGvH)


She began her political career under Willie Brown.

Literally.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:38 PM (YqDXo)

194 174 Lizzy Warren probably got her Haaaavard job from being a hard hard core Socialist, being a minority just was a bonus.

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2018 01:38 PM (T4oHT)

195 Guess I'm out of the loop. what is BOFA? I can't do AoS at work.

Posted by: Infidel at September 03, 2018 01:38 PM (PhT3S)

196 I'm beginning to think the crazies underestimated the depth of the depravity.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:32 PM (YqDXo)

Same here. I always liked to keep up the conspiracy stuff because it's entertaining and also fascinating to see where some peoples' minds go, but shit's starting to make sense in ways I never imagined.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis


We were never crazy. Too many people were in denial.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 03, 2018 01:38 PM (21UM+)

197 Gallup shows support for organized labor is holding steady at a 15 year high.

I doubt attacking unions on Labor Day will make the Republican brand more popular.

Posted by: Curious at September 03, 2018 01:39 PM (3iIjx)

198 193
Yes, and Kamala Harris' rise in Cali had nothing to do with her "relationship" with Willie Brown.



Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (gjGvH)



She began her political career under Willie Brown.



Literally.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:38 PM (YqDXo)

Coulda been on top, you know.

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:39 PM (gjGvH)

199 Only bad thing about this Trump economy is more people working=more traffic coming and going to work.

Posted by: JROD at September 03, 2018 01:08 PM (bQMzs)

Traffic in the I-5 corridor near Seattle-Tacoma is enough to drive old people to fuck.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 03, 2018 01:39 PM (iwUO9)

200 "decentralized GDP" is needed ... production in the hinterlands, not just GDP by WallStreet chicanery.

Easy Money for decades can promote better GDP, but the point of cheap money is to promote investment is real production ... in America. EasyMoney to buy cheap China goods puts us in debt and China starts to conquer us (by buying our assets, and buying Hollywood to push their propaganda).

Lots of big steps ahead ... AmericaFirst policy must be implemented in the face of the globalists' demand for AmericanConsumers going in debt buying their commie produced goods.
divorcing China ... Washington Times articlehttps://tinyurl.com/y92rmw96

Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2018 01:40 PM (Cus5s)

201 I am in the Head taking an Obama right now in celebration.

Posted by: Archer at September 03, 2018 01:40 PM (nd5mm)

202
Magnum aired 39 years after Pearl Harbor.

Today, it's been almost 38 years since Magnum aired.

It sucks getting old.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:40 PM (rW4yT)

203 195 Guess I'm out of the loop. what is BOFA? I can't do AoS at work.
Posted by: Infidel at September 03, 2018 01:38 PM (PhT3S)

Bofa deez NUTS!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 03, 2018 01:40 PM (NWiLs)

204 197. Yup. Trump's done. The working class will abandon him in droves.

(Honestly - ya need to at least put in some effort here.)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 03, 2018 01:40 PM (fA1SL)

205 199
Only bad thing about this Trump economy is more people working=more traffic coming and going to work.



Posted by: JROD at September 03, 2018 01:08 PM (bQMzs)

Traffic in the I-5 corridor near Seattle-Tacoma is enough to drive old people to fuck.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 03, 2018 01:39 PM (iwUO9)

Explains why STDs amongst seniors at an all-time high.

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:40 PM (gjGvH)

206
Same here. I always liked to keep up the conspiracy stuff because it's entertaining and also fascinating to see where some peoples' minds go, but shit's starting to make sense in ways I never imagined.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:34 PM (4ErVI)

I find conspiracy theories to be interesting as a genre because of what it says about the human brain's desire to find patterns no matter what.

But had you told me prior to 11.9.2016 that the FBI and the NSA and all the other alphabet agencies would have combined with the Clinton campaign to use a dossier from a Brit spy based on unnamed Russian sources making claims that were ludicrous on their face, I would have laughed in your face.

Ooooooops.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 03, 2018 01:40 PM (dEQP3)

207 Why did Trump "monkey things up" by attacking Richard Trumka on Labor Day?

Posted by: Curious at September 03, 2018 01:09 PM (3iIjx)

Because there's never not a good day to attack that purple-shirted Commie goblin?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 03, 2018 01:41 PM (iwUO9)

208 >>It's snowing. Sept. 3 and it's snowing.


Woo-Hoo!

Fuck you Summer. Get outta here!

Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:41 PM (/f8jc)

209
When I saw -- thanks to modern high def television -- the image of Meghan McCain with 'thousand legger' (sorry AtC for the image) sized false eyelashes glued to her eyes at her own father's funeral -- I just had to say -- this is not someone we should ever take seriously.

I have purchased false eyelashes for my wife. Me -- a stupid deplorable person. Of different sizes. From 'puddle jumper' aircraft to '787 wide body' versions. Based on the event. It's kinda simple, actually.

Why-in-the-hell she decided to go '787 wide body' false eyelashes at her own fathers funeral is something that might cause me to lose sleep at night.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 01:41 PM (LOgQ4)

210 187 Poor Canada, they really picked a bad time to go back to the Utterly Clueless Idiot in Office model.


Like western Europe, Canada has long been able to make bad decisions or be irresponsible and not pay any price, as they are completely under the US wing for security, and mostly an extension of our economy.

Unfortunately that "mostly" part can sting when the US changes course and you decide you can out-maneuver or otherwise manage to avoid dealing with that new course.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (QDnY+)


And to show just how clueless Trudeau is, he overlooked Trump's repeatedly expressed preference for bilateral deals over multilateral ones and allowed his head negotiating chick to offer disrespect to Trump.

So a bilateral deal with Mexico it is, leaving Canada out in the cold, with precisely zero negotiating leverage.

Can you say "divide and conquer?" Trump can.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:41 PM (YqDXo)

211 There's definitely something hinky with the LV shooting and now that Jihad compound in NM.

Looks like stuff's being hidden because it'll make someone in the government look bad.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (4ErVI)


Don't worry, Sleepy Jeff's non politicized DOJ will be all over this.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 03, 2018 01:42 PM (y7DUB)

212 Clearly it will be an early night for Trump and the GOP. MI PA and WI went early for Hillary precisely because Trump has no traction with unionized labor.


Oh, wait.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 01:42 PM (QDnY+)

213 >> had you told me prior to 11.9.2016 that the FBI and the NSA and all the other alphabet agencies would have combined with the Clinton campaign to use a dossier from a Brit spy based on unnamed Russian sources making claims that were ludicrous on their face, I would have laughed in your face.


oooh - Jiggly.

Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:42 PM (/f8jc)

214 Gotta run. Good Day all.

Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:43 PM (gjGvH)

215 Not sure if you're yanking my chain or not, insomniac.

Posted by: Infidel at September 03, 2018 01:43 PM (PhT3S)

216 But had you told me prior to 11.9.2016 that the FBI and the NSA and all
the other alphabet agencies would have combined with the Clinton
campaign to use a dossier from a Brit spy based on unnamed Russian
sources making claims that were ludicrous on their face, I would have
laughed in your face.
=====

LOL. The Chicago Way.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 03, 2018 01:44 PM (MIKMs)

217 215. IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE LAWYERS ARE INHERENTLY UNTRUSTWORTHY.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 03, 2018 01:45 PM (fA1SL)

218

Paul Krugatron hardest hit.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 03, 2018 01:45 PM (HaL55)

219 The world really is insane. My niece, who has always thought I was a wonderful person, has decided that I am evil and should be shunned now, and publicly condemned me to the praise of all her friends on Facebook.

My sin? Thinking that if someone cuts their dangly bits off they don't stop being a man. For that, she thinks I'm a monster who must be stopped.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 01:45 PM (39g3+)

220 I love how the left thinks slapping back at a thug who spouted lies is "attacking organized labor" just because that guy managed to murder his way to the head of a union.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 03, 2018 01:45 PM (U9b5C)

221 217 215. IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE LAWYERS ARE INHERENTLY UNTRUSTWORTHY.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 03, 2018 01:45 PM (fA1SL)

Suck my taint.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 03, 2018 01:45 PM (NWiLs)

222 The name "curious" is stupid no matter who is using it apparently.

Posted by: buzzion at September 03, 2018 01:45 PM (cAnNx)

223 Any day's a good day to attack Trumka

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 03, 2018 01:45 PM (oVJmc)

224 John Brennan should be criminally prosecuted. Obviously.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydx7wk5u

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 03, 2018 01:46 PM (CaRQc)

225 221. IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU'D PROBABLY BILL ME IF I FOLLOWED YOUR ADVICE.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 03, 2018 01:46 PM (fA1SL)

226 Magnum aired 39 years after Pearl Harbor.

Today, it's been almost 38 years since Magnum aired.

It sucks getting old.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:40 PM (rW4yT)

you know they're coming out with a remake

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 03, 2018 01:46 PM (CE6iV)

227 you know they're coming out with a remake
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books!

no thanks, the 1st Pearl Harbor movie was unwatchable

Posted by: Rick in SK at September 03, 2018 01:47 PM (K2T58)

228 >>you know they're coming out with a remake


Prison Pussies are so 2007...

bring back The Womb Broom!

Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:47 PM (/f8jc)

229 Remember under Obama, the same numbers were unexpectedly revised downwards. IIRC under Trump, the reverse is true.

Posted by: Valiant at September 03, 2018 01:47 PM (3MiF8)

230
you know they're coming out with a remake

I don't acknowledge that as being anything but another show with the same name.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:48 PM (rW4yT)

231 If Trumka weren't the Central Casting version of a stupid, corrupt, vile thuggish labor goon, it might help him. Or not.


And I recall not long ago he made positive noises about Der Trumpenfuhrer.


Wonder why he's pulling this s**t right now?


Comedy gold would be for him to make anti-Trump remarks at a large public union gathering. Don't think that would go over terribly well.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 01:48 PM (QDnY+)

232 The name "curious" is stupid no matter who is using it apparently.
Posted by: buzzion at September 03, 2018 01:45 PM (cAnNx)


A tradition like no other

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 03, 2018 01:48 PM (y7DUB)

233 Remember John Doe #2 from the Oklahoma City bombing?

That sketch plastered over every television broadcast and newspaper that I remember his face to this day. Dark hair and dour looking.

Later down the memory hole. Also nope he ever existed.

Except he probably did. The theory is that he was an FBI asset. Remember back then the militia movement was the cause of hundreds of breathless reports about incipient RIGHT WING VIOLENCE. Then conveniently the Murrah building goes splodey and the militia movement fades away.

Would it surprise anyone if they were connnected?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:49 PM (4ErVI)

234 >> IIRC under Trump, the reverse is true.


Yet, the same 'Non-Political' sources.

Posted by: garrett at September 03, 2018 01:49 PM (/f8jc)

235 Wonder why he's pulling this s**t right now?

Because he's a Democrat?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 03, 2018 01:49 PM (oVJmc)

236 Meg McCain's ass grew 4.2% in the last quarter also.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 03, 2018 01:49 PM (EoRCO)

237
Why-in-the-hell she decided to go '787 wide body' false eyelashes at her own fathers funeral is something that might cause me to lose sleep at night.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic


Because she's a privileged trollop who's been trading on her daddy's name all her adult life.

*returns to nap*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 01:49 PM (LsBY9)

238 Yeah, let's just ignore the part about how they were able to build their welfare states because America footed the bill for their defense.
Posted by: rickl at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (sdi6R)


Europeans used to chide me about the "workaholic" Americans, while they took six weeks of vacation a year. (Six weeks of official vacation, that is; never mind a hell of a lot of unofficial vacation.)

If Trump succeeds in making the Euros pull their weight on defense, bye bye six weeks of vacation. Hello, workaholic bitterly unhappy Euros!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:49 PM (YqDXo)

239 Thank you, Insomniac.

Posted by: Infidel at September 03, 2018 01:49 PM (PhT3S)

240
Why-in-the-hell she decided to go '787 wide body' false eyelashes at her own fathers funeral is something that might cause me to lose sleep at night.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 01:41 PM (LOgQ4)



Gaaaahh.

It is currently fashionable to have going to the Paris Opera on opening night false eyelashes on at all times. that and doing the same level of contouring and eye make up that you would do in those situations.

Drives me batty. No, no, going out for a super fancy dinner level smokey eye and false eyelashes are not appropriate for a funeral.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at September 03, 2018 01:50 PM (dEQP3)

241 144 We have had some dumb politicians and still do but Obama is whole new level of stupid.
Posted by: IC at September 03, 2018 01:28 PM (S6dPn)
-------------------

168 Obama - sit down for this - is not very smart.....

Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 01:32 PM (QDnY+)
---------------------------------------

It depends entirely what you mean by "dumb," "stupid," or "smart."

I think we can all agree that he is unwise, unlearned by traditional standards, and ignorant of the ordinary workaday world.
And I'd say he is a textbook example of stupidity in the Orwellian sense, in that his mind is in an ideological stupor.

But I don't think he is "dumb" in the sense of having a low IQ.

This is the great mystery that Orwell (and others) have puzzled over for decades --- how mentally competent people and even brilliant people can believe and espouse demonstrable nonsense.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 03, 2018 01:52 PM (0jtPF)

242 It seemed to me in that video of the Clintons at funeral that when Hillary was just about to ascend steps the two people in front of her - almost liked it was choreographed -came back and took her by the arms to help her. Bill was in front as well, but did not partake in assisting his wife. Perhaps he has walking issues, too. Weird, because the whole scene looked coordinated.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 03, 2018 01:52 PM (dI3/S)

243 198 193
Yes, and Kamala Harris' rise in Cali had nothing to do with her "relationship" with Willie Brown.



Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (gjGvH)



She began her political career under Willie Brown.



Literally.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:38 PM (YqDXo)

Coulda been on top, you know.
Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:39 PM (gjGvH)


*muses about Kamala Harris on top*

*snaps out of it*

Stop that! Stop it!

Posted by: rickl at September 03, 2018 01:52 PM (sdi6R)

244 atc, even some of the news readers do that. It looks ridiculous.

Posted by: Infidel at September 03, 2018 01:52 PM (PhT3S)

245 First episode of Magnum PI 12/11/80, probably missed this first episode live, just gotg to Langley AFB. But was a big fan later.

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2018 01:52 PM (T4oHT)

246

Obama's plan was redistribution through liquidation of holdings.
He basically had our economy under seige to punish the 'haves'.


Out there on that Intarwebz thingy are several reports of close friends of TFG swooping in and buying up large companies for pennies that were forced to shut down as a result of his policies.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 03, 2018 01:52 PM (HaL55)

247 Huck, I skimmed it quickly, but I still don't see any specific criminal counts for Brennan in that piece, as excerpted by Hinderaker at PowerLine.


I have long feared/said that, while obviously outrageous and scary and historically unprecedented, Brennan's behavior in the whole Keystone Coup might not actually have involved any *illegal* acts.


Those were concentrated in the DOJ and FBI, and probably White House. CIA just feeds (fake) info to the beast, the beast does all the concrete stuff that gets into criminal territory.


Not saying there's no basis, but I'm still waiting for specifics. US Code cites, specific charges.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 01:52 PM (QDnY+)

248 No, no, going out for a super fancy dinner level smokey eye and false eyelashes are not appropriate for a funeral.
=====

Always camera ready.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 03, 2018 01:52 PM (MIKMs)

249
What's next, the excessive rouge-circles and white faces?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:53 PM (rW4yT)

250 >>But I don't think he is "dumb" in the sense of having a low IQ.


You can't convince us of that.

Posted by: Garden Gate and Umbrela at September 03, 2018 01:53 PM (/f8jc)

251 219 The world really is insane. My niece, who has always thought I was a wonderful person, has decided that I am evil and should be shunned now, and publicly condemned me to the praise of all her friends on Facebook.

My sin? Thinking that if someone cuts their dangly bits off they don't stop being a man. For that, she thinks I'm a monster who must be stopped.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 01:45 PM (39g3+)


You flunked a liberal shibboleth. Unclean! Unclean!

My advice: lose toxic people.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:53 PM (YqDXo)

252 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 01:45 PM (39g3+)

Sorry Chris
hugs

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 03, 2018 01:53 PM (CE6iV)

253 >>>Posted by: Curious

"by: Curious"? That says it all. Is Obama posting here under a sock?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 03, 2018 01:54 PM (/qEW2)

254 Seahawks owner Paul Allen has donated $100,000 to a fundraising committee dedicated to helping Republicans maintain control of the U.S. House of Representatives, according to a new report in the Seattle Times.



It also says he's given money to Dems but this looks to be a new tactic of the MFM to reveal contributions to Republicans so the left can unleash their fury on them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 03, 2018 01:54 PM (SiINZ)

255 >>Not saying there's no basis, but I'm still waiting for specifics. US Code cites, specific charges.

It already goes further than just the DOJ and FBI to include the DoD and likely others. I don't know the specific code but this was clearly a criminal conspiracy and Brennan was at least partially if not fully running it.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 03, 2018 01:54 PM (/tuJf)

256 Obama - sit down for this - is not very smart.....


Why else lock down your college transcripts tighter than Fort Knox? Someday they'll come out. That'll probably be a fun day.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 03, 2018 01:54 PM (jDF8P)

257
-Paul Krugman, Nov. 9, 2016

Point of Order

The Ace of Spades stylebook requires that Krugman be referred to as

"Paul Krugman, former advisor to Enron".

Posted by: Fox2! at September 03, 2018 01:55 PM (brIR5)

258 You flunked a liberal shibboleth. Unclean! Unclean!

I knew it was coming eventually, she went to a special school in Portland for native Americans because she's like .25% Cherokee, and just entered college. It was a matter of time before her young mind was broken from a Christian upbringing under her dad to an SJW nutcase from her mom. I just hope she outgrows it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 01:56 PM (39g3+)

259 AOSHQ Stylebook requires all references to be Former ENRON Adviser Paul Krugman
Posted by: Insomniac at September 03, 2018 01:28 PM


Good luck with that.

Posted by: Assistant Associate Copy Editor, AoSHQ Style Guide, Notorious RBG Section at September 03, 2018 01:56 PM (DMUuz)

260 But I don't think he is "dumb" in the sense of having a low IQ.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 03, 2018 01:52 PM (0jtPF)


I should clarify my comments above. I don't think Obama is dumb in an absolute sense. Rather, I think his IQ is modestly above average (less than a standard deviation, if I had to guess).

But that's FAR from the image he tries to project, or the persona the Reds created for him as the "most brilliant man ever." Yeah, Isaac Newton was overrated, and besides, what's he done recently?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:57 PM (YqDXo)

261 Prime Minister Bollywood Airhead is our equivalent of Barack Obama. He was elected primarily because he was cool.
Stephen Harper, by contrast, was Dad.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at September 03, 2018 01:57 PM (nBr1j)

262

75 is much higher than the combined IQ of the entire Senate.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 03, 2018 01:25 PM (QSdIk)

Did McCain's passing help the average?
Posted by: jim at September 03, 2018 01:27 PM (gjGvH)

Well, if you take into account the brain tumor IQ....

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 03, 2018 01:57 PM (e1mEI)

263
Why else lock down your college transcripts tighter than Fort Knox? Someday they'll come out. That'll probably be a fun day.

Posted by: tu3031


They'll show he applied as a foreign student. Because he was born in Hawaii. Or Hawa'ii, as we're now supposed to say.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 01:58 PM (LsBY9)

264 I suspect when and if Barry's grades come out, it will be no surprise to any of the horde.

Posted by: Infidel at September 03, 2018 01:58 PM (PhT3S)

265
Tomorrow: KAVANAUGH

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:58 PM (rW4yT)

266 254 Seahawks owner Paul Allen has donated $100,000 to a fundraising committee dedicated to helping Republicans maintain control of the U.S. House of Representatives, according to a new report in the Seattle Times.



It also says he's given money to Dems but this looks to be a new tactic of the MFM to reveal contributions to Republicans so the left can unleash their fury on them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 03, 2018 01:54 PM (SiINZ)

Yep. They tried to instigate a boycott of In and Out Burger in California over the weekend, conveniently leaving out of the reported story that the chain had given even more money to democrats. But it's just a human mistake, not bias of any kind.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at September 03, 2018 01:58 PM (jp0Bv)

267 TS Gordon.

Headed toward NOLA and then us.

I see flood bucket production in my near future.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 03, 2018 01:58 PM (mtfdF)

268 257
-Paul Krugman, Nov. 9, 2016

Point of Order

The Ace of Spades stylebook requires that Krugman be referred to as

"Paul Krugman, former advisor to Enron".
Posted by: Fox2! at September 03, 2018 01:55 PM (brIR5)

It amazes me that someone with a realm of professional expertise outside political commentary would be so eager to destroy his professional credibility. It's as if there is no life outside of politics.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at September 03, 2018 01:59 PM (nBr1j)

269 Obama could read pretty well ... probably a 100-105 IQ imo.


His ability to speak eloquently without the prompter was limited to conversations that only required repeating the talking points of the leftist commie dogma he was bathed in since his youth.
When one has a dogma and a crowd on that side, spewing nonsense is made to sound like deep wisdom. "Argument" like "this is not who we are" ... not argument, more of reinforcement of some religious creed.

Same with "our diversity is our strength" or any number of trite phrases embedded in the brains of the leftist drones that (pretend to) faint in his glowing presence.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2018 01:59 PM (Cus5s)

270 *muses about Kamala Harris on top*
Posted by: rickl at September 03, 2018 01:52 PM


Ahem.

Posted by: Jasper at September 03, 2018 01:59 PM (DMUuz)

271 The only thing holding back the economy now is the years long indoctrination instilled into many people by our education system that manual labor is something to be avoided.

Posted by: MAGA at September 03, 2018 01:59 PM (/8RAd)

272
Tomorrow:

The Kavanaugh-do

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 01:59 PM (rW4yT)

273 yeah I think Obama got okay grades not because of performance but because he was believed to be an exchange student from Kenya. So you know, he got exotic origins magic negro grading kinda like how Bubba the 57-IQ lineman gets a passing grade because he's important to the team.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 01:59 PM (39g3+)

274 Christopher, you could send, snail mail, a note to your niece, saying something like that you always thought she was a wonderful person and are hurt that she's decided to cut off her uncle just because of differences in socio- political opinion.

you know, classy,short, guilt-inducing

might make her think

use snail mail, not email or phone
bigger impact

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 03, 2018 02:00 PM (CE6iV)

275
I wonder not about Obama's grades but the courses he took.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 02:00 PM (LsBY9)

276 Margarita it's a conceptual and semantic conundrum, but I don't think any conventional - and meaningful - definition of "smart" applies to Obama and people like him.


Notably smart, yet warped, even evil people demonstrate their smarts in some practical way, somehow, at some point. We see this with the biggest villains of the 20th century.


Obama is an absolute zero. The usual dodge of "political talent!!", which is typically nonsense (as with Bill Clinton) can't even be applied to this case with a straight face.


His elevation has nothing to do with him, everything to do with the degradation of American public discourse, the utter collapse of the press, and the overall degradation of the civic culture.


Enough of the public is so, so infantilized that significant numbers of voters who were not attracted to his vague, dishonest, but obviously very dubious non-agenda ("hope and change", WTF, was this a high school class president's race?) were *still* so clueless they thought "ooh, electing a black guy will help race relations!!! and stuff!!".


Obama was a symptom, not a cause.


Main reason guarded pessimism remains a sound outlook.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 02:01 PM (QDnY+)

277 Because she's a privileged trollop who's been trading on her daddy's name all her adult life.

*returns to nap*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

And what kind of masochist who calls themselves a "conservative" would go on The View, just to make money?

What kind of a blockhead plays that game?
She is needy in terms of attention, just like her late old man.

It think that Cindy and John had four kids, and Meghan was either the youngest or next to the youngest.

Their oldest daughter runs the Budweiser distributorship in Phoenix.
One of their sons went to Annapolis. I don't know if he is still in the Navy.
One of their sons went into the Marines, and served a combat tour in Iraq.

And then, there's Meghan.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at September 03, 2018 02:01 PM (S6Pax)

278
It would be interesting to see how those fake conservatives Kock Brothers are spending their $$ this year.


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 03, 2018 02:01 PM (rW4yT)

279 The only thing holding back the economy now is the years long indoctrination instilled into many people by our education system that manual labor is something to be avoided.

Posted by: MAGA at September 03, 2018 01:59 PM (/8RAd)



They're just waiting for the socialism to be implemented so they never have to work and everything is paid for them. Just like it is in every glorious socialist paradise

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 03, 2018 02:01 PM (SiINZ)

280 >>Obama could read pretty well ... probably a 100-105 IQ imo.


We think you are being kind.

Posted by: Garden Gate and Umbrela at September 03, 2018 02:01 PM (/f8jc)

281 269 Obama could read pretty well ... probably a 100-105 IQ imo.


His ability to speak eloquently without the prompter was limited to conversations that only required repeating the talking points of the leftist commie dogma he was bathed in since his youth.
When one has a dogma and a crowd on that side, spewing nonsense is made to sound like deep wisdom. "Argument" like "this is not who we are" ... not argument, more of reinforcement of some religious creed.

Same with "our diversity is our strength" or any number of trite phrases embedded in the brains of the leftist drones that (pretend to) faint in his glowing presence.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2018 01:59 PM (Cus5s)

+++

I remember that he would end a sentence or statement with "'an stuff" frequently.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 03, 2018 02:01 PM (dI3/S)

282 247 Huck, I skimmed it quickly, but I still don't see any specific criminal counts for Brennan in that piece, as excerpted by Hinderaker at PowerLine.


I have long feared/said that, while obviously outrageous and scary and historically unprecedented, Brennan's behavior in the whole Keystone Coup might not actually have involved any *illegal* acts.


Those were concentrated in the DOJ and FBI, and probably White House. CIA just feeds (fake) info to the beast, the beast does all the concrete stuff that gets into criminal territory.


Not saying there's no basis, but I'm still waiting for specifics. US Code cites, specific charges.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 01:52 PM (QDnY+)

--------

Nothing was done that a few HR training classes won't fix.

/s

Posted by: MAGA at September 03, 2018 02:01 PM (/8RAd)

283 And besides only showing up for his classes 1/3 of the time while being funded by Saudis it will show his major in Communism with a minor in rabble rousing

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2018 02:02 PM (T4oHT)

284 Bubba the 57-IQ lineman gets a passing grade because he's important to the team
=====

If Bubba is an offensive lineman might not be so low IQ.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 03, 2018 02:02 PM (MIKMs)

285

Ahem.
Posted by: Jasper at September 03, 2018 01:59 PM (DMUuz)


Hey, who stole my peanut butter?!

Posted by: Toby at September 03, 2018 02:02 PM (HaL55)

286 280 >>Obama could read pretty well ... probably a 100-105 IQ imo.


We think you are being kind.
Posted by: Garden Gate and Umbrela at September 03, 2018 02:01 PM (/f8jc)

I would buy average but definitely not brilliant as proclaimed by the media.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at September 03, 2018 02:02 PM (nBr1j)

287 Christopher, you could send, snail mail, a note to your niece

I'm thinking about it, especially since in a few days it will be a year since her father died and she probably could use some love. Maybe a card.

When her father died, my oldest brother, she was the same age I was when my father died. And she's the youngest of her siblings, like I am. I felt a special sympathy for her loss. And I expect that confusion and pain is playing into her behavior, she's kind of at a loss what to believe and think now without his input.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 02:03 PM (39g3+)

288 188---....Srsly, it was obvious even at this remove that Obama was not very bright.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:37 PM (YqDXo)
-----------------------
Every single one of the examples you give before that statement are evidence of ignorance, not low IQ.

He is beautifully credentialed but not educated, much less learned.

And please note that he attended a fancy prep school, Occidental College (hardly top-drawer, but not skid row either,) Columbia University, and Harvard Law.
Affirmative action notwithstanding, one might expect these institutions to churn out a better product.
But they do not.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 03, 2018 02:03 PM (0jtPF)

289 yeah I think Obama got okay grades not because of performance but because he was believed to be an exchange student from Kenya. So you know, he got exotic origins magic negro grading kinda like how Bubba the 57-IQ lineman gets a passing grade because he's important to the team.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

In the original versions of "Dreams of My Father" (or Dreams of My Neighbor's Father"), the dustcover had a short bio of Obama, and it clearly stated he was born in Kenya.
Birtherism!!! And Obama started it.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at September 03, 2018 02:03 PM (S6Pax)

290 When the media describes someone as intelligent it invariably refers to someone who believes the same things they believe.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at September 03, 2018 02:04 PM (nBr1j)

291 Obama could read pretty well ... probably a 100-105 IQ imo.

My guess? Somewhere between 100 and 115, the latter being the average IQ of a college graduate. I see him as on the low edge of intellectual ability among the college students of my experience.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 02:04 PM (YqDXo)

292 Obama could read pretty well ... probably a 100-105 IQ imo.




We think you are being kind.
---
Bozo Conservative and I have had this discussion several times. I tend to be in the "you are being kind camp."


If by "read pretty welll," you mean "read a teleprompter," well, think about this way: it's reading out loud. How hard is that to do? As someone who used to run a teleprompter on the news... I'd say "not hard. "

Posted by: shibumi at September 03, 2018 02:05 PM (SbIX4)

293 Thank God Obama started the economy rolling. What a fucking genius.

Posted by: Cannibal Bobs Church Bar and Grill and OTB at September 03, 2018 02:05 PM (EPnrI)

294 287 you're a good uncle

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 03, 2018 02:05 PM (CE6iV)

295 They'll show he applied as a foreign student. Because he was born in Hawaii. Or Hawa'ii, as we're now supposed to say.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 01:58 PM (LsBY9)

I "Suspect" it would show he claimed to be a foreign Student for the aid, which is fraud.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 03, 2018 02:05 PM (Ydx5u)

296 Has the media ever referred to a conservative as intelligent or to a leftie/Democrat as lacking in the brains department?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at September 03, 2018 02:05 PM (nBr1j)

297 Harvard alums apparently believe that little David Hogg is the future leader of this country, and they want to make sure he goes to the right school.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 03, 2018 02:05 PM (DMUuz)

298 Remember John Doe #2 from the Oklahoma City bombing?

That sketch plastered over every television broadcast and newspaper that I remember his face to this day. Dark hair and dour looking.

Later down the memory hole. Also nope he ever existed.

Except he probably did. The theory is that he was an FBI asset. Remember back then the militia movement was the cause of hundreds of breathless reports about incipient RIGHT WING VIOLENCE. Then conveniently the Murrah building goes splodey and the militia movement fades away.

Would it surprise anyone if they were connnected?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 03, 2018 01:49 PM


Not to brag... alright, but just a little. I have expert fvcking photoshop skills. I did a morph of JD #2 and the suspect. Dead on.

I've only seen one other that flowed that easily. It was of a Catholic priest and a unabomber type in my neck of the woods. The priest had composed himself on his web page in the exact fashion as the police sketch.

At that time it was incomprehensible that a priest would go around setting off pipe bombs and terrorizing the 'hood. So I was a bit of a loon for even thinking it. Though all the husbands of wives in contact with the dude said the same thing, "Stay away, far away from him".

But seeing the latest count of bad priests in my state, he would be the outlier. Funny thing is, when he died, the bombings stopped.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 03, 2018 02:06 PM (LOgQ4)

299 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 02:03 PM (39g3+)

I think that's a fine idea, and I would suggest a card. Snail mail is so delightfully unexpected and you write so well, that she might appreciate your kindness even if she still completely disagrees with your opinions on transgenderism.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 03, 2018 02:06 PM (AllCR)

300 In the original versions of "Dreams of My Father" (or Dreams of My Neighbor's Father"), the dustcover had a short bio of Obama, and it clearly stated he was born in Kenya.

You can still find the image of a blurb by the Harvard Legal Review stating he's from Kenya. His wife was saying it up until right before 2008. It was a con they pulled to get him privileged treatment and even into Harvard to begin with, then they had to back off of it because it would disqualify him for the presidency.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 02:07 PM (39g3+)

301 It's probably already been said, but they adopted or had a special needs child.

Posted by: Infidel at September 03, 2018 02:07 PM (PhT3S)

302 Got to get outside and batten down the hatches, T-storm coming.
Fast.

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2018 02:07 PM (T4oHT)

303 Not declaring Brennan has no criminal liability exposure.


Saying I have not seen even any speculation on how, specifically, that might be so. Launching and pushing a bogus "intelligence" crusade is not illegal, even if there is proof you did so knowingly. And only the thinnest veneer of "this really was our best estimate at the time, based on what we had" is sufficient to keep it in the policy disaster - not criminal act - category. (and understandably so - otherwise there would be prosecution for the high % of intel estimates that are unavoidably wrong, and always will be wrong)


DOJ/FBI perps have lots of exposure, on identified grounds.


Just sayin' I have to see anyone with expertise ID specific criminal violations that might be in play, for Brennan. I suppose "conspiracy" to mount the various illegal actions of the DOJ and FBI might do the trick. Just wondering.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 02:08 PM (QDnY+)

304 You can still find the image of a blurb by the Harvard Legal Review stating he's from Kenya. His wife was saying it up until right before 2008. It was a con they pulled to get him privileged treatment and even into Harvard to begin with, then they had to back off of it because it would disqualify him for the presidency.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Just one of the many quirky frauds surrounding our greatest African American President, Barack Hussein Obama.

Seven years after 9-11, and we elect a President with the middle name "Hussein".

Sure we did.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at September 03, 2018 02:09 PM (S6Pax)

305 Daylight come and me wanna go home.

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at September 03, 2018 02:09 PM (Tyii7)

306 If by "read pretty welll," you mean "read a teleprompter," well, think about this way: it's reading out loud. How hard is that to do? As someone who used to run a teleprompter on the news... I'd say "not hard. "
Posted by: shibumi


Yeah, well that Bozo guy is pretty much a mouth breathing idiot, anyways.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at September 03, 2018 02:09 PM (S6Pax)

307 Has the media ever referred to a conservative as intelligent or to a leftie/Democrat as lacking in the brains department?
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at September 03, 2018 02:05 PM


(Let's shake up the special edition Hank Johnson & Cynthia McKinney Magic 8-Ball and see if anyone notices ...)

* shakes * *turns over*

"My sources say ... no."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 03, 2018 02:09 PM (DMUuz)

308 260----But that's FAR from the image he tries to project, or the persona the Reds created for him as the "most brilliant man ever." Yeah, Isaac Newton was overrated, and besides, what's he done recently?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 01:57 PM (YqDXo)
--------------------------
THIS.
It parallels the "Michelle-is-beautiful" myth --- except in that instance the average imbecile could see the obvious lie.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 03, 2018 02:10 PM (0jtPF)

309

If TFG's kollidge grades were that good, we'd know about it.

All the time.

Every day.

Ad nausem.

24/7/365.

In fact, Progda would've used them in place of quotation marks.

Posted by: Toby at September 03, 2018 02:10 PM (HaL55)

310 305 Daylight come and me wanna go home.
Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at September 03, 2018 02:09 PM (Tyii7)

This jig is up the news is out
They've finally found me

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 03, 2018 02:10 PM (CE6iV)

311

Arf, she said.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 03, 2018 02:11 PM (HaL55)

312 camera hogg will be found asphyxiated in a smart car. with his skinny jeans wrapped around him and a world class kielbasa stuck in his ass. he will have a smile on his face. terrorism will be suspected.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 03, 2018 02:11 PM (KP5rU)

313 I wonder not about Obama's grades but the courses he took.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 02:00 PM (LsBY9)

When researching Obama's past, I ran across his Junior Course Schedule from Columbia:

Critical Fellatio Theory
Ancient African Astronauts (The Old Negro Space Program)
Transgender Language 301
Advanced White Extermination Studies
Community Organizing for Fun and Profit (elective)
Forced Diversity Assimilation

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 03, 2018 02:11 PM (9BLnV)

314 Every single one of the examples you give before that statement are evidence of ignorance, not low IQ.

You're right, up to a point.

Ignorance and low IQ are not co-extensive, but they are correlated, just not with 100% correlation. People with low IQ tend to be ignorant, and conversely.

I never saw any evidence of Obama engaging in abstract thought, and that definitely reflects low IQ, IMO.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 02:11 PM (YqDXo)

315 Was this Microsoft Paul Allen, of submarines searching for WWII wrecks - THAT Paul Allen?


Kind of stunned he'd give a dime to the GOP, though I think he's been fairly apolitical in general, compared to most tech oligarchs.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 03, 2018 02:11 PM (QDnY+)

316
Actually I have a terrible time reading from a text. My eyes are five lines ahead of my mouth.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 02:11 PM (LsBY9)

317 "If by "read pretty well," you mean "read a teleprompter,"
yeah, I meant the prompter was needed for him to look smart.I did not mean he was "well read".

Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2018 02:12 PM (Cus5s)

318 So what ever happened to that 4.6% number from a few weeks ago... was that for the 2nd quarter of an estimate for the 3rd quarter? why are they now saying estimated 3%?

Posted by: I smell something rotten... at September 03, 2018 02:12 PM (vpMHd)

319 Right. If Choom got straight A's we'd have heard about it every day of the week for 8 years. We'd have had comparisons between Trump's college transcripts and Obama's. We'd have been told its proof of his transcendent genius that caused women to swoon during speeches.

The fact that we are not told this, is proof they were meh grades given out of kindness to a guy who barely ever showed up to class.

I think Obama is smart enough, not particularly bright but maybe 110 IQ (to the extent IQ is valuable in identifying intelligence). But he's a fool, and that matters more.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 03, 2018 02:13 PM (39g3+)

320 And please note that he attended a fancy prep school, Occidental College (hardly top-drawer, but not skid row either,) Columbia University, and Harvard Law.
Affirmative action notwithstanding, one might expect these institutions to churn out a better product.
But they do not.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 03, 2018 02:03 PM (0jtPF)


Occidental is notorious for being Red-infested, as is Columbia (as evidenced by welcoming the Frankfurt School).

I don't think Obama made his way through those two as an affirmative action candidate, but rather as a Red diaper baby moving up through the Red farm system. By his own admission his performance at Occidental was dire, and yet he was admitted to Columbia? Hmmmm.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 02:14 PM (YqDXo)

321 When researching Obama's past, I ran across his Junior Course Schedule from Columbia:



Critical Fellatio Theory

Ancient African Astronauts (The Old Negro Space Program)

Transgender Language 301

Advanced White Extermination Studies

Community Organizing for Fun and Profit (elective)

Forced Diversity Assimilation

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 03, 2018 02:11 PM (9BLnV)


heh




Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 03, 2018 02:14 PM (ptqGC)

322 Bill Clinton, in his prime, was smart
you could tell from the deft way he'd handle press and even his impeachment
TFG can not handle unscripted questions
neither can Hillary
oh remember that obe press con where Barry kibda called in Bill to sub?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 03, 2018 02:14 PM (CE6iV)

323 "My eyes are five lines ahead of my mouth."
ha ... my typing is usually two thoughts behind my thinking, which makes my typing brain often replace words with whatever it "grabs", that might sound close.

unless I reread, there are generally a couple odd replacements.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 03, 2018 02:15 PM (Cus5s)

324 DeVos due process nood.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 03, 2018 02:15 PM (/qEW2)

325 >>... he attended a fancy prep school, Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard Law.





Always a good reminder:

Sheila Jackson Lee - Yale undergrad, UVA Law
And she is weapons grade dumb

Posted by: Lizzy at September 03, 2018 02:15 PM (W+vEI)

326 304
Just one of the many quirky frauds surrounding our greatest African American President, Barack Hussein Obama.

Seven years after 9-11, and we elect a President with the middle name "Hussein".

Sure we did.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at September 03, 2018 02:09 PM (S6Pax)


If only we had people whose job it was to investigate such things and "report" on them. If only.

Posted by: rickl at September 03, 2018 02:15 PM (sdi6R)

327
The MSM, who always assume Republicans are illiterate ignoramuses, never asked the Idiot God what books he read.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 03, 2018 02:15 PM (LsBY9)

328 Funemployment Down!!!

Puppies Dying!!!!

Posted by: Mega at September 03, 2018 02:16 PM (uEbPt)

329 247 Huck, I skimmed it quickly, but I still don't see any specific
criminal counts for Brennan in that piece, as excerpted by Hinderaker at
PowerLine.


Treason, being hard to prosecute out of wartime, is probably too much to hope for, so we would presumably have to settle for malfeasance in office. After all, pushing the levers of his official CIA authority and conspiring with foreign agents (the English are still foreign) to overturn a Presidential election is (at minimum) malfeasance. Don't have a clue what the relevant code would be.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 03, 2018 02:16 PM (CaRQc)

330 Watched Garbo's take on Mata Hari yesterday. Should be renamed "Schmata Hari"

Posted by: REDACTED at September 03, 2018 02:17 PM (7rpiB)

331 >>Sheila Jackson Lee - Yale undergrad, UVA Law
And she is weapons grade dumb

When you dumb down admittance requirements to accept people on anything other than academic achievement you have to dumb down the curriculum to keep them enrolled.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 03, 2018 02:17 PM (/tuJf)

332 If TFG's kollidge grades were that good, we'd know about it.

All the time.

Every day.

Ad nausem.

24/7/365.

In fact, Progda would've used them in place of quotation marks.
Posted by: Toby at September 03, 2018 02:10 PM (HaL55)


Just like he was supposed to be this great basketball player. The only clips I ever saw of that was a shoot around where he missed about 20 shots in a row. Ordinarily I'd cut him slack because he was in street shoes, even though his shooting form smelled like ass, but then when one finally went in he put his hands up like he just passed potty training instead of being embarrassed he bricked so many before that. There's no way he's any fucking good at hoops.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 03, 2018 02:18 PM (y7DUB)

333 I don't suppose there's a chance in hell the Indonesian Dog Eater got into Occidental because he claimed Indonesian citizenship? Right? Or that he traveled to Pockeeeston using an Indonesian passport?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 03, 2018 02:20 PM (ptqGC)

334 Only shot at Brennan might be document release and uncovering names, he had minions just like all leaders .

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2018 02:21 PM (T4oHT)

335 Obama could read pretty well ... probably a 100-105 IQ imo.

My guess? Somewhere between 100 and 115, the latter being the average IQ of a college graduate. I see him as on the low edge of intellectual ability among the college students of my experience.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 02:04 PM (YqDXo)

Historian Michael Beschloss stated that Barack Obama was the smartest man with the highest IQ ever to be elected president on the Don Imus show in November 2008. Imus asked "So, what is his IQ?" Beschloss didn't know, he said he was just assuming. This was a constant theme in the 2008 election and for the first couple of years of the Obama presidency. He was "the smartest guy in the room." They stopped that BS after it became obvious that the only time BO was the smartest person in the room was when he was in the bathroom by himself.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 03, 2018 02:22 PM (9BLnV)

336 296 Has the media ever referred to a conservative as intelligent or to a leftie/Democrat as lacking in the brains department?
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at September 03, 2018 02:05 PM (nBr1j)
-----------------------------------------
As to the first, not since WF Buckley.

They did regard Kissinger and Nixon as intelligent. It would be a stretch to call them conservative, of course, but they were Republicans and Nixon had an anti-communist background.

But this is going back 40 or more years, isn't it?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 03, 2018 02:23 PM (0jtPF)

337 Cynthia Nixon has been frequently referenced in the press as trying to become New Yorks first lesbian governor but the actress-turned-politician does not actually self-identify as a lesbian, instead considering herself as queer, according to campaign spokeswoman Lauren Hitt.

Well THAT changes everything. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 03, 2018 02:23 PM (Ydx5u)

338 Feel Good Story of the Day

Terrorist attempts to stab an IDF soldier
Vail Ja'abari, 36, from Hebron is shot dead after attempting to stab an IDF soldier at the entrance to the Geva Haavot neighborhood in Kiryat Arba; None of the Israeli soldiers were injured.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 03, 2018 02:25 PM (Ydx5u)

339 335
Historian Michael Beschloss stated that Barack Obama was the smartest man with the highest IQ ever to be elected president on the Don Imus show in November 2008. Imus asked "So, what is his IQ?" Beschloss didn't know, he said he was just assuming. This was a constant theme in the 2008 election and for the first couple of years of the Obama presidency. He was "the smartest guy in the room." They stopped that BS after it became obvious that the only time BO was the smartest person in the room was when he was in the bathroom by himself.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 03, 2018 02:22 PM (9BLnV)


The FNM has been gaslighting us for a long time.

Posted by: rickl at September 03, 2018 02:28 PM (sdi6R)

340 hey the other Nixon went queer at the end!!!Maybe she will straighten up and love DICK...I am not a CUCK.

Posted by: saf at September 03, 2018 02:29 PM (5IHGB)

341 320----Occidental is notorious for being Red-infested, as is Columbia (as evidenced by welcoming the Frankfurt School).

I don't think Obama made his way through those two as an affirmative action candidate, but rather as a Red diaper baby moving up through the Red farm system.....
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 03, 2018 02:14 PM (YqDXo)
---------------------------------

Now go back to what you said about a (loose) correlation between ignorance and low IQ.
And let's look at "ignorance."

By my standards, by your standards (which may differ somewhat from my own,) by the standards of Columbia University 100 years ago, the man is ignorant.

But by the standards of contemporary elite institutions, is he? Is he not well versed in left-wing ideology? Do not the memes of neo-Marxism slip automatically from his lips just as easily as a Latin proverb might come from the mouth of an educated man 100 years ago?

I dunno. Like Orwell, I find the puzzle of the smart leftist ....interesting.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 03, 2018 02:36 PM (0jtPF)

342 All that antibody seaweed is just covered Raquel Welch's body in "Fantastic Voyage", giving a chance for all the dudes to paw at her.
On FXM.


Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 03, 2018 02:37 PM (8iiMU)

343 They stopped that BS after it became obvious that
the only time BO was the smartest person in the room was when he was in
the bathroom by himself.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 03, 2018 02:22 PM (9BLnV)

Until he drops a turd.
Then it's a tossup.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 03, 2018 02:39 PM (8iiMU)

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Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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