ROFL: Manafort Jury Asks Judge to Clarify Meaning of "Reasonable Doubt"

BREAKING: Jury in Manafort case sends note asking for legal definitions on filing requirements for overseas accounts, also for clarification on 'reasonable doubt.' Suggests jurors may not view case as a slam dunk. Story TK

The thing is, really, all you need to acquit is just doubt the word of the admitted criminal Gates.

I'm not saying that'll happen. I'm just saying that when your star witness is an admitted embezzler who would go to jail but for testifying that the non-embezzling partner is a super-bad dude, and used his embezzled funds to set up a love-nest for his mistress... well, that is sort of Walking Reasonable Doubt.

Friends and I are just hoping for this for the pure entertainment value of it.

The freak out will be... why, I don't even know what it would be like.

"Epic" is too small a word.

It would be... immortal. It would be God-like. It would a freak-out of God-like dimensions, unbound by space or time.

The Spin: Assuming that there is an acquittal (which I don't know that I would, yet), the snark from the Twitter Idiots will be: "Well, I guess that's the secret to Manafort's success -- surround yourself with liars and criminals even worse than yourself and you can never be convicted because your associates' words are worthless when used against you."

But this is always a problem when there are several criminals in an organization, all possibly guilty of the most serious crimes. You pressure one criminal to rat out another criminal.

But the guy who's ratting is going to have to admit he is a criminal and liar himself (no crimes occur without a lot of lying), and that he might get some consideration in his own sentencing if he testifies for the state... It's always a dicey proposition.

That's why in many cases the prosecution will offer some fairly light sentence in a plea deal.

But here, the prosecution decided to charge Manafort for over 300 years sentencing for tax evasion, and go the jury with their star witness, the admitted embezzler, tax fraud, adulterer, etc.

And they're doing that just to Get Trump.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:52 PM

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1 Is there nothing Trump cannot do?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 16, 2018 05:55 PM (bcbK8)

2 Ha

Posted by: Captain W at August 16, 2018 05:55 PM (UHxMZ)

3 Aaaaaaaaaa

Posted by: Le Chic at August 16, 2018 05:55 PM (rwaEp)

4 The Russians hacked the jury

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2018 05:56 PM (OLCnA)

5 Physicists will be sorry if they aren't set up in advance to measure the reaction. It'll be explosive.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 05:56 PM (ULoJS)

6 Acquittal would be great, but failing that I hope President Trump has the pardon announcement ready. The conviction and pardon could be in the same news cycle!

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 16, 2018 05:56 PM (HiLJ1)

7 That's HEDLEY

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 16, 2018 05:57 PM (d7Ww2)

8 Krugman will be ecstatic at all the broken windows, post acquittal (if it comes, fingers crossed).

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 05:57 PM (ULoJS)

9 Following acquittal, the jury will be doxxed, harassed, their lives threatened, and I put good odds on someone being physically harmed.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 16, 2018 05:58 PM (BYLU3)

10
Alternate poat title:

Don't Look Now But The Russians Might've Hacked The Manafort Jury

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 05:58 PM (E+no4)

11 Who would Manafort have his first drink with, once released from solitary? I hope it's the Russian ambassador just os there's a big secondary explosion on the left.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 05:59 PM (ULoJS)

12 The jury will be well hung before this is over.

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 16, 2018 05:59 PM (XeN7w)

13 Wouldn't it be loverly.

Posted by: aelfheld at August 16, 2018 05:59 PM (IxDhF)

14 Who is TK and why should we apologize to him/her?

Posted by: Hands at August 16, 2018 05:59 PM (EzdLW)

15 If Manafort skates, it would be hilarious if Trump tweeted that he just ripped up Manafort's pardon since he doesn't need it any more.
LOL

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 16, 2018 05:59 PM (8iiMU)

16 haven't had a dream
in a long time

Posted by: happyfeet at August 16, 2018 06:00 PM (mLfQi)

17 I read some of the transcripts and it appeared that the defense had the better of it.

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2018 06:00 PM (DH5wZ)

18 Damn! I read "Story" as "Sorry"

I'm story, I mean sorry

Posted by: Hands at August 16, 2018 06:00 PM (EzdLW)

19 Wait...Ace has friends??

Posted by: Timon at August 16, 2018 06:00 PM (h3t5U)

20 A statement from the jury foreman:

https://youtu.be/dYTfzfsbiUI

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 16, 2018 06:00 PM (KdqkX)

21 I want Manafort to be acquitted exactly for the complete and total meltdown of it.

It will be wondrous to behold.

And if he is convicted? Trump should tweet out a pardon instantly. For. Epic. Lulz.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 16, 2018 06:00 PM (dEQP3)

22 also for clarification on 'reasonable doubt.' Suggests jurors may not view case as a slam dunk

I think they're looking for a CYA because they want to acquit and are afraid of the backlash

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at August 16, 2018 06:00 PM (oLa9K)

23 Everyone, get your skull goblets out of the crawlspace. A banquet of lefty tears this delicious needs to be enjoyed per the AoS scriptures.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at August 16, 2018 06:00 PM (oZ6kz)

24 16 haven't had a dream
in a long time
Posted by: happyfeet at August 16, 2018 06:00 PM (mLfQi)

So please, please, please, let you get what you want this time?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 06:01 PM (ujg0T)

25

Friends and I are just hoping for this for the pure entertainment value of it.

You mean us, right, Chief?

I mean, we're your friends, too, eh, chum?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:01 PM (E+no4)

26 (bows to the Empress)

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at August 16, 2018 06:01 PM (oLa9K)

27 11: Putin meets him at the gate with a bottle of Dom and champagne flutes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 16, 2018 06:01 PM (89T5c)

28 I think Manafort is guilty of some shady dealings... Just like 90% of Washington....So he should go to jail for Life?.......

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:02 PM (O2RFr)

29 " If the account don't fit, you must acquit..."

Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2018 06:02 PM (ffWPP)

30 How many jurors are lining up guest spots on MSNBC and CNN to accuse other jurors of being paid off?

Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2018 06:02 PM (zRwJ/)

31 I have Reasonable Doubt Jeff Sessions can fulfill his job duties.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2018 06:02 PM (r9UYA)

32
This would make a funny post title:

The Manfort Jury Says 'Nyet' to Mueller

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:03 PM (E+no4)

33 Popcorn time!

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at August 16, 2018 06:03 PM (0OmEj)

34 >>>It would be... immortal. It would be God-like. It would a freak-out of God-like dimensions, unbound by space or time.

So...Schadenboner?

Posted by: Max Power at August 16, 2018 06:03 PM (q177U)

35 I assume the clarification will be refused. Reasonable doubt generally is not defined/considered too self-explanatory.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at August 16, 2018 06:03 PM (mEjqT)

36 If Donny really wants to send the left into full on Insanity Pepper Mode? Announce that new DOJ policy is that "immunity deals" that functionally act as presidential pardons are illegal and unconstitutional, so they will not eb honored.

Gates would spin back so fast it would break the sound barrier, and sphincters would slam shut.

Posted by: trev006 at August 16, 2018 06:03 PM (75qvD)

37 Reasonable Doubt? Isn't that when James Comey has determined that you had no Criminal Intent despite a myriad of crimes committed?

Posted by: ShainS at August 16, 2018 06:03 PM (1GWg8)

38 >>You mean us, right, Chief?

No, he doesn't. He means real friends not us riff raff.

It doesn't hurt, not too much.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2018 06:03 PM (/tuJf)

39

It would be... immortal. It would be God-like. It would a freak-out of God-like dimensions, unbound by space or time.

It would rip a hole in the space-time continuum.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 06:03 PM (HaL55)

40 Reminds me, I need to go long on popcorn futures.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (PHotS)

41 If acquitted GOP professionals should gather around the courthouse shooting their AK's into the air, a la a middle eastern celebration, claiming its a cultural thing in response to anyone who gets upset. Just to add some flavor to the post-holiday reportage from the MSM.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (ULoJS)

42
I think silly prog's and ne'er trumpers would be hurling themselves off cliffs.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (rXie1)

43 Remember, there's 18 counts.

Posted by: Ha at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (MAstk)

44 If the jury is already this far along there may be a not guilty tomorrow. Then all the jurors leave town for a vacation and Manafort flys to the Riviera. The Italian one. Maybe a Portefino or San Remo villa so Mulehead's head explodes.

Posted by: Lester at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (LfJIn)

45 30 How many jurors are lining up guest spots on MSNBC and CNN to accuse other jurors of being paid off?
Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2018 06:02 PM (zRwJ/)

That would be a hung jury rather than an acquittal?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (ujg0T)

46 I am thinking that maybe they acquit on some of the charges and let something stick. I think there were a fuck ton of charges.

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (M+Lyo)

47 Freak Out by Chic.

Celine Dion did the best cover.

Posted by: Cap'n Bill at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (NLLmE)

48 Willowed comment:

Evolution needs to be demoted from theory to hypothesis:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybygdh3e

Posted by: bonhomme at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (9qZ3S)

49 Ace is my friend.... my imaginary friend... the voices tell me that... they say he's in the room with me, right now....

Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2018 06:05 PM (ffWPP)

50 sock cleanse.

Posted by: eleven at August 16, 2018 06:05 PM (NLLmE)

51 How delicious would an acquittal be? Oh the gnashing of teeth and unhinged wailing will be epic.

Posted by: Bosk at August 16, 2018 06:05 PM (fjMEv)

52 Mother of all TRIGGERING

Posted by: Zombie Saddam Hussein (not to be confused with Barry) at August 16, 2018 06:05 PM (rXie1)

53 42
I think silly prog's and ne'er trumpers would be hurling themselves off cliffs.
Posted by: Sphynx at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (rXie1)

Decent pay-per-view opportunity there

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at August 16, 2018 06:05 PM (oLa9K)

54 17

Posted by: runner at August 16, 2018 06:05 PM (bUjCl)

55 Mueller you are done here

Posted by: x at August 16, 2018 06:05 PM (nFwvY)

56 46 I am thinking that maybe they acquit on some of the charges and let something stick. I think there were a fuck ton of charges.

That's what I think.... Of course WTF does this have to do with Russia collusion and if found guilty why is Trump "guilty" too?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:05 PM (O2RFr)

57 That would be a hung jury rather than an acquittal?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (ujg0T)

Probably the best chance for him. Everyone knows a conspiracy theorist. There has to be one to gum up the works.

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:06 PM (M+Lyo)

58 42
I think silly prog's and ne'er trumpers would be hurling themselves off cliffs.
Posted by: Sphynx at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (rXie1)

Don't get my hopes up!

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 06:06 PM (ujg0T)

59 If they are asking for the textbook legal definition of "reasonable doubt" then it's over for team meuller.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 16, 2018 06:06 PM (JUOKG)

60 I think silly prog's and ne'er trumpers would be hurling themselves off cliffs.
Posted by: Sphynx at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (rXie1)

Don't be a tease.

Posted by: eleven at August 16, 2018 06:06 PM (NLLmE)

61 There are multiple counts, no? Could be acquitted of some, convicted of others?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 06:06 PM (xSo9G)

62 Sources Have Reasonable Doubt That Fair Trials Are Now Impossible Due To Trump Meddling, Russia Collusion

Posted by: This...Is CNN at August 16, 2018 06:06 PM (jDF8P)

63
I have a reasonable doubt that Manafort gets acquittal. More likely a mistrial and do over.

On the other hand, if Manafort gets a not guilty verdict, then Mueller's investigation should be shut down.

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 16, 2018 06:06 PM (XeN7w)

64 I suspect Manafort is probably guilty as sin, but the fact that the only reason he's being prosecuted is to try to make him turn against Trump means that I will laugh 'til I puke if he walks.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2018 06:06 PM (oVJmc)

65 The jury will be well hung before this is over.

Oh, my!

Posted by: George Takei at August 16, 2018 06:06 PM (9qZ3S)

66 >>>43 Remember, there's 18 counts.

I think they all depend on accepting the word of admitted serial liar, embezzler, and adulterer that NOW he's telling the truth.

Posted by: ace at August 16, 2018 06:06 PM (PA9oZ)

67 I am thinking that maybe they acquit on some of the charges and let something stick. I think there were a fuck ton of charges.
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (M+Lyo)

Yea, I don't think he is gonna get off scot-free.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 16, 2018 06:06 PM (qyZxC)

68 So Manafort's attorney just dropped the mic and walked away as it were.

And the jury all by themselves are asking the judge for help after a prosecutor for the United States should have made all this clear without rebuttal from defense counsel.

Someone should get their money back for law school.

Posted by: 80's music fab at August 16, 2018 06:06 PM (tQkRb)

69 ShainS- perfect. Standing ovation

Posted by: Ben Had at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (HPlRj)

70 47
Freak Out by Chic.

So you're thinking that would be a good musical choice for the defense team to dance out of the courthouse to, in a sort of conga line down the steps?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (ULoJS)

71 >>48
Willowed comment:

Evolution needs to be demoted from theory to hypothesis:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybygdh3e

Posted by: bonhomme

Unsettling.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (r9UYA)

72 Dark Mysteries of Power.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (89T5c)

73 So, I just looked it up, and it appears you can rent out Russian botnets pretty damn cheap, and Twitter isn't very effective at defeating them...

https://tinyurl.com/ybmkjgor

I am officially strongly considering spending some of my hard-earned coin to hire Russians to flood the accounts of my favorite conservacucks with "Ahoy maties," and so forth.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (AzW6q)

74 What pudding would be appropriate? Butterscotch? Perhaps tapioca?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (BYLU3)

75 That's what we need .... a mistrial.... Hey! This could be a Jarndyce vs Jarndyce kinda thing.....

Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (ffWPP)

76 "Epic" is too small a word.

____

Schadenbonerrific!

Posted by: ShainS at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (1GWg8)

77 Maybe not epic but: conviction and given time served would be pretty funny.

Posted by: Biglier at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (nzKWW)

78
You hear this?

I shit you not: One of the charges against Manafort is he bought a $15K OSTRICH jacket.

Okay, 1) who makes jackets out of Ostriches? And, 2) who would want to wear an ostrich jacket, that cost $15,000!?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (E+no4)

79 I want to hear the lamentations of Mueller's and Kristol's women as Trump drives his foes before him.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 16, 2018 06:08 PM (bb4ns)

80
"Epic" is too small a word.It would be... immortal. It would be God-like. It would a freak-out of God-like dimensions, unbound by space or time
---
That is so... poetic.

Also....I think the best get rich scheme now is self-taught "Trump Derangement Syndrome Counselor." You'd be a zillionaire in no time.

Posted by: shibumi at August 16, 2018 06:08 PM (SbIX4)

81 I have a reasonable doubt that Manafort gets acquittal. More likely a mistrial and do over.

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 16, 2018 06:06 PM (XeN7w)

Which would be tantamount to an acquittal, as most mistrials lead to just that?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 06:08 PM (ujg0T)

82 >>I think they all depend on accepting the word of admitted serial liar, embezzler, and adulterer that NOW he's telling the truth.

In the closing statement, the prosecution reportedly said that the only thing the jury needed to focus on was the documents. I think they know that Gates hurt them rather than helped.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2018 06:08 PM (/tuJf)

83 Not guilty would be great,sure.

But....Guilty, Time Served, AND Pardoned?

They. Would. Shit the bed.

Posted by: Ktgreat at August 16, 2018 06:08 PM (f8ilN)

84 ROFL: Manafort Jury Asks Judge to Clarify Meaning of "Reasonable Doubt"

"Q.E.D." -- Judge

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 16, 2018 06:08 PM (OYwKq)

85 Someone should get their money back for law school.
Posted by: 80's music fab

NO REFUND!

Posted by: Fedral Deparmen of Ejewkashun at August 16, 2018 06:08 PM (KdqkX)

86 What is that Winston Wolf Quote?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2018 06:08 PM (wldC6)

87 Ha!

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 16, 2018 06:08 PM (jbFVL)

88 Freak Out by Chic.

So you're thinking that would be a good musical choice for the defense team to dance out of the courthouse to, in a sort of conga line down the steps?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (ULoJS)

It's worthy.

Posted by: eleven at August 16, 2018 06:08 PM (NLLmE)

89 The sure-fire conviction will be for Russian collusion. I mean, Mewler would have not have proceeded without a slam dunk case, right?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 06:08 PM (xSo9G)

90 I think the odds of Manfort being found not guilty are pretty much the same as me winning Powerball, but it would be humorous.

The fact that the jury is asking at all means the defense did a pretty good job of placing some question in the mind of jurors. Maybe not enough, but some at least.

it appears you can rent out Russian botnets pretty damn cheap, and Twitter isn't very effective at defeating them

Half their business model relies on publicity firms buying these things to lard up their client's social media. Look he has 500,000 followers!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2018 06:09 PM (39g3+)

91 Akshully, in Kristol's case, it's hearing the lamentations of his butt boys.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 16, 2018 06:09 PM (bb4ns)

92 Reasonable doubt covers pretty much any doubt short of "I'm not sayings it's aliens, but it's aliens".

It must "abide"

Posted by: wooga at August 16, 2018 06:09 PM (S+sVl)

93 he may get foreign agent registration

Posted by: runner at August 16, 2018 06:09 PM (bUjCl)

94 Remember this is his first trial... Has another one coming up

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:09 PM (O2RFr)

95 I read through the charges trying to think what was the least they could convict on, and kept running into the word "Knowing" in every count of the indictment. Meaning that the prosecution needed to prove that not only did he break the law, but that he knew he was breaking the law when he did it, and he went ahead and did it anyways.

I never saw anything that convinced me that the Prosecution had met that burden; BUT there are reams and reams of documents, and I have no idea what the jury will do with or conclude from those.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2018 06:09 PM (k1TUh)

96 Ace, but as McCarthy pointed out, there are mounds of documents.

I see hung jury as best case scenario.

Posted by: Ha at August 16, 2018 06:09 PM (MAstk)

97 I didn't know that RUSSIAN BOTS were allowed to serve on juries.

Posted by: Bot Theorists of the Left at August 16, 2018 06:09 PM (AcZtS)

98 I wonder what ANTIFA will chose to destroy if Manafort walks?

Posted by: X-ray at August 16, 2018 06:09 PM (kG2lj)

99 I shit you not: One of the charges against Manafort is he bought a $15K OSTRICH jacket.

Uh-oh. If there is a PETA juror, he is done for...that is murder!!

I, OTOH, would convict him of horrible fashion sense.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 16, 2018 06:09 PM (qyZxC)

100 The freak out will be... why, I don't even know what it would be like.
"Epic" is too small a word.
It would be... immortal. It would be God-like. It would a freak-out of God-like dimensions, unbound by space or time.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:52 PM

I felt a great disturbance in the Farce, as if millions of cucks suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly bitch-slapped into silence. I fear something yuuuuge has happened.

Posted by: Hands at August 16, 2018 06:09 PM (EzdLW)

101 I read some of the transcripts and it appeared that the defense had the better of it.
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2018 06:00 PM (DH5wZ)

--------

That will tend to happen when you indict and jail someone you are sure will roll over instead of actually going to trial. Mewler phuched this up bigly with his certainty Manafort would give up Trump.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 16, 2018 06:10 PM (I16G8)

102 As long as Hillary skates, as long as the Podesta brothers skate, as long as all the other slimeballs skate, I want Paul Manafort to get a Casey Anthony verdict: not guilty of ANYTHING. Casey Anthony pissed me off but for Manafort I'll be cheering and raising a small glass of bourbon. Don't want to get ahead of it and be disappointed but it's a good sign the jury didn't have an immediate verdict.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 16, 2018 06:10 PM (2NqXo)

103 All I know is one day on the radio there was a snippet about the prosecution presenting Mr M's python jacket(s) and I immediately thought. You are presenting his high $$ clothing buys as evidence in a fraud trial? How incredibly lame.

Also hypocritical, the MSM lurved Michelle's $600 sneakers.

Posted by: PaleRider at August 16, 2018 06:10 PM (eASYU)

104 >>>86 What is that Winston Wolf Quote?

Time to start sucking cocks with each other!

Posted by: Shep Smith at August 16, 2018 06:10 PM (S+sVl)

105 So, I just looked it up, and it appears you can rent out Russian botnets pretty damn cheap, and Twitter isn't very effective at defeating them...

https://tinyurl.com/ybmkjgor

I am officially strongly considering spending some of my hard-earned coin to hire Russians to flood the accounts of my favorite conservacucks with "Ahoy maties," and so forth.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (AzW6q)

How about "machines for sale" one of my favorites ?

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:10 PM (M+Lyo)

106 Okay, 1) who makes jackets out of Ostriches? And, 2) who would want to wear an ostrich jacket, that cost $15,000!?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (E+no4)

Do you not like...luxury?

Posted by: eleven at August 16, 2018 06:10 PM (NLLmE)

107 The thing to do is set up a pool, contingent upon acquittal, concerning exactly which media figures go most insane. Maybe there should be 2, one for the overtly Democrat reporters, and one for the PussyCons.

Posted by: George LeS at August 16, 2018 06:10 PM (59GGI)

108 You sumbitches left me willow'd on the last thread.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 16, 2018 06:10 PM (4ErVI)

109 This was a paper case without any paper.

He better skate because the prosecution presented nothing.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2018 06:10 PM (kT3/m)

110 "I shit you not: One of the charges against Manafort is he bought a $15K OSTRICH jacket."

On what grounds? If it's bad taste, I've got a long list for the feral prosecutors. It can't be endangered status: ostriches are farmed.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 16, 2018 06:10 PM (BYLU3)

111 Schadenbonerrific!

Call the after party "Schadenbonnaroo".

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 06:10 PM (ULoJS)

112 Acquittal means judge and jury colluded with the Russians.

Posted by: Ripley at August 16, 2018 06:11 PM (NbRJx)

113 Okay, 1) who makes jackets out of Ostriches? And, 2) who would want to wear an ostrich jacket, that cost $15,000!?
--

Someone who wants you to know he wears a jacket for which he paid 15 kilobucks, and that he has more money than you.

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 16, 2018 06:11 PM (XeN7w)

114 The really sad part is that there is not, and could not even possibly be, any actual definition of "reasonable doubt" ... though I'm sure the self-deciding trial automata that the Sick Valley tech billionaires are throwing together will nail it down at 15.217%.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 16, 2018 06:11 PM (OYwKq)

115
Do you not like...luxury?

A little too much like Monty Burns, no?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:11 PM (E+no4)

116 On what grounds? If it's bad taste,

Well if bad taste can convict you Michele Obama should get life

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:11 PM (O2RFr)

117 Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet, gentlemen.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 06:11 PM (NWiLs)

118 115. See my vest! See my vest!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 06:12 PM (fA1SL)

119 You hear this?

I shit you not: One of the charges against Manafort is he bought a $15K OSTRICH jacket.

Okay, 1) who makes jackets out of Ostriches? And, 2) who would want to wear an ostrich jacket, that cost $15,000!?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (E+no4)

15k is cheap for an Ostrich Leather Jacket.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 16, 2018 06:12 PM (AcZtS)

120 I think I just had a TIA. If Manafort walks, I'm gonna stroke out, man.

Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at August 16, 2018 06:12 PM (HiLJ1)

121

So you're thinking that would be a good musical choice for the defense team to dance out of the courthouse to, in a sort of conga line down the steps?

I'd pay good money to see that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 06:12 PM (HaL55)

122 I read some of the transcripts and it appeared that the defense had the better of it.
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2018 06:00 PM

Funny, the media is saying the opposite. That TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER is going to have a mask soldered on and be left to rot in a dungeon somewhere. The Manafort With the Iron Mask.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 16, 2018 06:12 PM (2NqXo)

123 >>>Don't Look Now But The Russians Might've Hacked The Manafort Jury
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 05:58 PM (E+no4)

OH SHIT!! IT'S FULL OF BOTZ!!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Max Power at August 16, 2018 06:12 PM (q177U)

124 If only a certain Republican AG had done his job, we wouldn't be at this crossroads right now.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (r9UYA)

125
15k is cheap for an Ostrich Leather Jacket.

Wait,

Leather?!?!?

I thought it was FEATHERS!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (E+no4)

126 124 If only a certain Republican AG had done his job, we wouldn't be at this crossroads right now.

Damn... You had to remind me

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (O2RFr)

127 My guess is a hung jury is 30% chance or so, and if so, I doubt Meuller continues the farce. I don't think he ever intended it to go this far to begin with.

But that won't stop the legal harassment of targets he hates. And the left has ENORMOUS amounts of sanity at stake here. They want a conviction of someone, anyone involved with the Trump campaign however tangentially and however unrelated to the campaign the charges may be. It will give them warm fuzzies to hug at night: Trump is going down, its begun, the dominos are falling, any minute now!!!!

You can see it in their social media accounts, half of them have a checklist as a picture heading (like Jack, the guy in charge of Twitter. Literally): names the FBI is after, cross off a box, we got another!!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (39g3+)

128
It's made of Ostrich Skin??

That's sick, man.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (E+no4)

129 117
Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet, gentlemen.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 06:11 PM (NWiLs)

Ahh, the horde. Ever patient and reasonable.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (ULoJS)

130 112 Acquittal means judge and jury colluded with the Russians.
Posted by: Ripley at August 16, 2018 06:11 PM (NbRJx)

They were all cleverly planted years ago! Just for this situation!

--The Moonbat Left

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (ujg0T)

131 What is that Winston Wolf Quote?

"Just because you are a character doesn't mean that you have character."

--WW

Posted by: bonhomme at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (9qZ3S)

132 32 This would make a funny post title:

The Manfort Jury Says 'Nyet' to Mueller

or "Nothing but Nyet"

Posted by: Anachronda at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (xGZ+b)

133 If Manafort walks, I sure as hell wouldn't take it if'n I was a progressive.

I'd just charge the goddamn White House. That's right, just hope that fence and charge right into the Oval Office. You can do it, Proggies!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (4ErVI)

134 Manafort did not crack under pressure from ObersturmfÜhrer Muller; which is cool

Posted by: runner at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (bUjCl)

135 Would have been epic if they came back with a not guilty in 5 minutes.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (dNzKv)

136 In my library are many Ostrich leather bound volumes.

Posted by: William Kristol at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (HiLJ1)

137 even worse for mueller is the recent revelation that the man on trial is actually a different Manfort. oopsies.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (GoLZO)

138 The Manafort With the Iron Mask.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 16, 2018 06:12 PM (2NqXo)

heh

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (M+Lyo)

139 "Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet, gentlemen."

Yeh...that's the quote!!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (wldC6)

140 A hung jury is the best Mueller can hope for. A not guilty would be a disaster. A guilty verdict without Manafort flipping would be tantamount to the missing WMDs. At least a hung jury would continue the endless speculation

Posted by: REDACTED at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (MM1XE)

141
Ace's friends might be nice, but they're no where near as zany-funny-wacky-fun as us.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (E+no4)

142 128
It's made of Ostrich Skin??

That's sick, man.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (E+no4)

He also has a cobra snake for a necktie.....

Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (ffWPP)

143 My brother had some ostrich boots, they were pretty nice. Not horribly expensive, and tough.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (39g3+)

144 Is this a Washington, DC jury?
If so, don't get your hopes up.

In any case, if I am not mistaken, the charges don't have anything to do with Trump, do they?
(I mean in reality, not in the Narrative.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (0jtPF)

145 I think I just had a TIA. If Manafort walks, I'm gonna stroke out, man.
Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at August 16, 2018 06:12 PM

Cover yourselves! The spittle will come through the TV.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (2NqXo)

146 So, I just looked it up, and it appears you can rent out Russian botnets pretty damn cheap, and Twitter isn't very effective at defeating them...

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (AzW6q)

Twatter would never even try to stop them. Bot nets provide the bulk of Twatter's bullshit ad charges. Yeah ... there were 23,034,112 clicks on my ad in 15 minutes ...

Most of Twatter and FarceBook and the rest are bullshit bots. ANyone who believes there are 2 billion people on FarceBook is an idiot. I doubt there are even 2 billion people on the planet with steady running water.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (OYwKq)

147 I wouldn't want an ostrich skin jacket.

I did have an ostrich skin wallet at one time. I've always wanted a pair of ostrich skin boots, but I know I wouldn't wear them.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at August 16, 2018 06:15 PM (//voU)

148
Upcoming NYT Editorial: IS IT TIME TO RECONSIDER TRIAL BY JURY?

Posted by: Hands at August 16, 2018 06:15 PM (EzdLW)

149 Which would be tantamount to an acquittal, as most mistrials lead to just that?

--

Ya, I don't know, but it seems like mistrials lead to more headlines as the media keeps the story alive a little longer.

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 16, 2018 06:15 PM (XeN7w)

150 In any case, if I am not mistaken, the charges don't have anything to do with Trump, do they?
(I mean in reality, not in the Narrative.)

Nope not a gosh darn thing

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:15 PM (O2RFr)

151 If Manafort is acquitted, it will be bad news for trump somehow, I'm sure.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 16, 2018 06:15 PM (dNzKv)

152 What is that Winston Wolf Quote?

"Just because you are a character doesn't mean that you have character."

--WW

Posted by: bonhomme at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (9qZ3S)

"Sorry Charlie. Starkist doesn't want tunas with good taste. Starkist wants tunas that taste good."

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 16, 2018 06:15 PM (OYwKq)

153 Posted by: William Kristol at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (HiLJ1)

Cucks and leather bindings go together like foie gras and table water crackers.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 16, 2018 06:15 PM (AzW6q)

154 136 In my library are many Ostrich leather bound volumes.

Posted by: William Kristol at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (HiLJ1)

And your farts smell like Corinthian leather and Kevin Williamson.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 16, 2018 06:16 PM (4ErVI)

155 He also has a cobra snake for a necktie.....

And you don't?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 06:16 PM (ULoJS)

156 I thought it was FEATHERS!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (E+no4)

If he were wearing an ostrich feather jacket he'd look kind of like like the birdman Papageno from "The Magic Flute".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2018 06:16 PM (AllCR)

157 Jury requests that judge clarify the term "ching-chong.'

Posted by: Goodwife Cleo at August 16, 2018 06:16 PM (E9vLe)

158 "Well, I guess that's the secret to Manafort's success -- surround yourself with liars and criminals even worse than yourself and you can never be convicted because your associates' words are worthless when used against you."

------------

gee what a bad moral victory then.

I don't know why the word of the street is manafort's a scumbag but...so what?

It sounds like he followed the law here.

Second, it also sounds like there were a 100 lesser options in place for the IRS and the FBI to deal with manafort if he was actually breaking the law...steps that could've taken place 5 years ago.

Also, I bet the reason for the request for instruction is there's one juror who is a die hard liberal insisting on there's no way to convince me manfort didn do nuthing wrong.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 16, 2018 06:16 PM (GoLZO)

159 142 128
It's made of Ostrich Skin??

That's sick, man.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (E+no4)

He also has a cobra snake for a necktie.....
Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2018 06:14 PM (ffWPP)

Got a brand new house on the roadside and it's made out of rattlesnake hide.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 06:16 PM (NWiLs)

160 ""I shit you not: One of the charges against Manafort is he bought a $15K OSTRICH jacket."

On what grounds? If it's bad taste, "

If loving glitz is wrong...
I don't want to be right.

Posted by: Zombie Liberace at August 16, 2018 06:16 PM (wldC6)

161 It's interesting that the FISA warrants on Manafort are almost never talked about. They had him under surveillance for a long time.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2018 06:17 PM (/tuJf)

162 I could buy and sell the whole lot of you riff-raff just using my annual emu sock budget.

Posted by: Paul Manafort at August 16, 2018 06:17 PM (mEjqT)

163 Even if acquitted, Manafort will be "Trumps former campaign manager who stood trial on charges filed in connection with Mueller's Russia probe."

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 16, 2018 06:17 PM (dNzKv)

164 15k is cheap for an Ostrich Leather Jacket.

Wait,

Leather?!?!?

I thought it was FEATHERS!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (E+no4)

I assumed it was leather because I doubt anyone could make a comfortable jacket out of ostrich feathers.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 16, 2018 06:17 PM (AcZtS)

165 They charged separate charges for each year for not registering as a foreign agent. That seems chickenshit.

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:17 PM (M+Lyo)

166 i have some lizard skin boots in peanut brittle.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 16, 2018 06:17 PM (Tm+wy)

167
If he were wearing an ostrich feather jacket he'd look kind of like like the birdman Papageno from "The Magic Flute".

Ha, good one, Fenelon!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:17 PM (E+no4)

168 They charged separate charges for each year for not registering as a foreign agent. That seems chickenshit.

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:17 PM (M+Lyo)

Has anyone ever been convicted of that ?

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:17 PM (M+Lyo)

169 The judge should order Mueller to reimburse the government for this malicious prosecution....

Posted by: Timon at August 16, 2018 06:17 PM (h3t5U)

170 I could buy and sell the whole lot of you riff-raff just using my annual emu sock budget.
Posted by: Paul Manafort

Manafort = MooMoo?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (KdqkX)

171 117 Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet, gentlemen.
Posted by: Insomniac

Waaaah! I can't wait that long! Want to start now!

Posted by: Obama in diaper-fetish cosplay at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (c+2jX)

172 In any case, if I am not mistaken, the charges don't have anything to do with Trump, do they?

Not even remotely in some Kevin Bacon 6 degrees of separation way. They're from Democrat Manafort many years before the campaign even started out. Even if he's found guilty on every single count and given the maximum sentence it has nothing at all to do with President Trump.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (39g3+)

173 What would they think of my armadillo shoes?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Possibly Confused at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (xPJvm)

174
Evolution needs to be demoted from theory to hypothesis:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybygdh3e

Posted by: bonhomme

Unsettling.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (r9UYA)

LOL.
WTF was that?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (8iiMU)

175 I didn't know ostriches wore jackets.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (dNzKv)

176 If he were wearing an ostrich feather jacket he'd look kind of like like the birdman Papageno from "The Magic Flute".
=====

Fabu!

Posted by: Shep! at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (//voU)

177 170 I could buy and sell the whole lot of you riff-raff just using my annual emu sock budget.
Posted by: Paul Manafort

Manafort = MooMoo?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (KdqkX)

He's Moo's poor cousin.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (NWiLs)

178 I could buy and sell the whole lot of you riff-raff just using my annual emu sock budget.
Posted by: Paul Manafort at August 16, 2018 06:17 PM (mEjqT)

---------

My emu socks work great, and they DON'T STINK.

Posted by: Johnny Bench at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (AzW6q)

179 I've tried a fair number of cases and in my experience it is very hard to predict what a jury is going to do based on their questions to the judge.

Unless the question is "Can we award more damages than the plaintiff asked for?" Its risky to read too much into juror questions.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (zncB8)

180 Friends and I are just hoping for this for the pure entertainment value of it.

The freak out will be... why, I don't even know what it would be like.

"Epic" is too small a word.

It would be... immortal. It would be God-like. It would a freak-out of God-like dimensions, unbound by space or time.

----

In the first H-bomb test, there were pipes penetrating the uranium casing of the device to carry "early bomb light" to distant instruments. That's what I'd like to be able to monitor in the Manafort verdict - an early bomb light pipe.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (nfvfi)

181 Not even remotely in some Kevin Bacon 6 degrees of separation way. They're from Democrat Manafort many years before the campaign even started out. Even if he's found guilty on every single count and given the maximum sentence it has nothing at all to do with President Trump.

Yet the media will say Trump is guilty

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (O2RFr)

182 Pa-pa-pa-pa.
Pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa.
Pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa.
Pa-pa-pa-pa-pa.
Pa-pa-pa-pa-pa.
Pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-papagena

🎶 🎶 🎶

Posted by: runner at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (bUjCl)

183 They charged separate charges for each year for not registering as a foreign agent. That seems chickenshit.

Sounds typical. When Napster was big, people were being busted on like 42,000 charges of stealing music, they counted each song off an album as a separate charge.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2018 06:19 PM (39g3+)

184 174
Evolution needs to be demoted from theory to hypothesis:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybygdh3e

Posted by: bonhomme

Unsettling.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (r9UYA)

LOL.
WTF was that?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (8iiMU)

Vegan pussies in the wild.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 06:19 PM (NWiLs)

185 And... Wolf...it looks like we are now going live on the court-house steps to our legal correspondent, Omarosa Manigault-Newman and she's with Michael Avenetti, our Legal Consultant....

Omarosa, we understand you have tapes of the jury deliberations?

Posted by: CNN, Fake News You Can Use! at August 16, 2018 06:19 PM (ULoJS)

186 Posted by: runner at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (bUjCl)

I'm not big on opera but I like that one.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2018 06:20 PM (AllCR)

187 128
It's made of Ostrich Skin??

That's sick, man.
Posted by: Soothsayer

tastes like chicken

Posted by: x at August 16, 2018 06:20 PM (nFwvY)

188 Funny, the media is saying the opposite. That TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER is going to have a mask soldered on and be left to rot in a dungeon somewhere. The Manafort With the Iron Mask."

The MSM coverage of the trial was awful, as usual. They focused on the sensational aspects and never once bothered to wonder about what it was that the prosecution had to prove. My impression was that the prosecution did a very poor job in the courtroom, BUT... as I keep saying, there are a huge pile of documents that the jury has to consider and sift through, and it's impossible to say in advance what conclusions they are going to draw from those.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2018 06:20 PM (k1TUh)

189 Has CNN asked Nifong for his opinion?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM (Ywyw4)

190 I think it is Ostrich Skin...bcz they sell purses made of it.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM (qyZxC)

191 174

Evolution needs to be demoted from theory to hypothesis:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybygdh3e

Posted by: bonhomme

Thing is, the chick who took the pic could kick all their asses at once.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM (q1VoB)

192 @182

My favorite opera

Posted by: Queen of the Night at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM (jm1YL)

193 It would be... immortal. It would be God-like. It would a freak-out of God-like dimensions, unbound by space or time.

It would rip a hole in the space-time continuum.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 06:03 PM (HaL55)

...

It would be like Valve releasing Half Life 3.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM (yL25O)

194 @168
Convicted?

Nobody has ever been indicted for it as far as I have been able to find out.

This is a textbook case of malicious prosecution.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM (kT3/m)

195 Manafort seems to be a slimeball, but he should be convicted based on the testimony of an even bigger slimeball? I would love a total acquittal on all accounts, just for the leftist freakout. It would be amazing! I suspect, however, that he'll be found guilty on a few charges and acquitted on most.

Posted by: biancaneve at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM (A/iod)

196 Is a Manafort acquittal Flaming Skull worthy?

Posted by: Monkfish at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM (a1s18)

197
The Plan was to put the screws to Manafort so he'd corroborate the fake dossier, I believe.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:22 PM (E+no4)

198 184 174
Evolution needs to be demoted from theory to hypothesis:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybygdh3e

Posted by: bonhomme

Unsettling.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2018 06:07 PM (r9UYA)

LOL.
WTF was that?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (8iiMU)

Vegan pussies in the wild.
Posted by: Insomniac

Check out the manliness factor of the fist-pump of the guy in the blue hoodie, second from left in the back row.

Dude has an estrogen-to-testosterone ratio of about 35-to-1.

Posted by: Obama in diaper-fetish cosplay at August 16, 2018 06:22 PM (c+2jX)

199
The charges against Gen Flynn are even flimsier!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:22 PM (E+no4)

200 The Plan was to put the screws to Manafort so he'd corroborate the fake dossier, I believe.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:22 PM

And now the screws are on the other foot, so to speak

Posted by: Hands at August 16, 2018 06:23 PM (EzdLW)

201 I'm not big on opera but I like that one.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2018 06:20 PM (AllCR)

His final opera; some Masonic themes..they say

Posted by: runner at August 16, 2018 06:23 PM (bUjCl)

202 I think it is Ostrich Skin...bcz they sell purses made of it.
--

It's not a purse. It is a dispatch case, a map case, a messenger bag like Indiana Jones used.

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 16, 2018 06:23 PM (XeN7w)

203 Flynn took a plea deal though did he not?

Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2018 06:23 PM (LiyEm)

204 "Check out the manliness factor of the fist-pump of the guy in the blue hoodie, second from left in the back row. "

He begins to lactate when he hears infants crying

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2018 06:23 PM (wldC6)

205 Right now, Jury Foreman Mr. Paul Anka is explaining to his jury how this is going to go.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 06:23 PM (ULoJS)

206
Is a Manafort acquittal Flaming Skull worthy?

Posted by: Monkfish at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM (a1s1

I would say so. It is also ball/boob pudding dipping worthy as well.

Posted by: Timon at August 16, 2018 06:23 PM (h3t5U)

207 The charges against Gen Flynn are even flimsier!

Yeah but he settled, which Manafort refused to do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2018 06:23 PM (39g3+)

208 who would want to wear an ostrich jacket, that cost $15,000!?
---------

I'm thinking that Manafort may have been abused by an ostrich when he was young. Payback.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 06:23 PM (CDGwz)

209 The Plan was to put the screws to Manafort so he'd corroborate the fake dossier, I believe.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:22 PM (E+no4)

Donald Trump's dog peed on my carpet while The Donald laughed! I was mortified!

Posted by: Paul Manafort, turning on Trump at August 16, 2018 06:23 PM (OYwKq)

210 If Manafort is acquitted Mewler's Spanish inquisition will be hard pressed on continuing.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 16, 2018 06:24 PM (pw+jk)

211 117 Let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet, gentlemen.

Posted by: Insomniac

Some light petting, perhaps?

Jury nullification -- Here's hoping someone slipped a juror a pamphlet on this important jury role, one that no judge will ever allow a defense attorney to mention in court. The idea that law can be overridden by the interests of Justice.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2018 06:24 PM (0ogQG)

212 Is a Manafort acquittal Flaming Skull worthy?

Posted by: Monkfish at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM (a1s1

I would say so. It is also ball/boob pudding dipping worthy as well.
Posted by: Timon

Also a WiiFit girl.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 16, 2018 06:24 PM (KdqkX)

213 Manafort seems to be a slimeball, but he should be convicted based on the testimony of an even bigger slimeball? I would love a total acquittal on all accounts, just for the leftist freakout. It would be amazing! I suspect, however, that he'll be found guilty on a few charges and acquitted on most.

Posted by: biancaneve at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM (A/iod)

Gates testimony and cross had to sow some doubt. "look, I am a liar, thief, adulterer and a rat, but believe me, he is a criminal"

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:24 PM (M+Lyo)

214 After They Banned Guns And Knives, Now London Mayor Wants To Ban Cars To Prevent Terror Attacks

-
Sounds reasonable.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 16, 2018 06:24 PM (+y/Ru)

215 a feather jacket would be very elvis-esque

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 16, 2018 06:24 PM (d7Ww2)

216 Wait...didn't Crocodile Dundee wear an ostrich skin vest?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 06:24 PM (CDGwz)

217 The charges against Gen Flynn are even flimsier!

It's frightening to see what the "government" can do to you.... I did read that Papadopolus is considering withdrawing his guilty plea and getting new lawyers

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:24 PM (O2RFr)

218 Is this thread old enough that I can ask a non-political question?

Does anyone know how a parent who cosigned a child's student loans and is now indigent can be removed from the loans? Is that at all possible?

Posted by: biancaneve at August 16, 2018 06:24 PM (A/iod)

219 That will tend to happen when you indict and jail someone you are sure will roll over instead of actually going to trial. Mewler phuched this up bigly with his certainty Manafort would give up Trump.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 16, 2018 06:10 PM

That's the mistake they're all making on the other side: that there's anything to give up.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 16, 2018 06:24 PM (2NqXo)

220 IDGAF what Manafort wears, and neither does America, methinks

Posted by: runner at August 16, 2018 06:24 PM (bUjCl)

221 Flynn pleaded out?
Why hasn't been pardoned yet?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:25 PM (E+no4)

222 James Comay @Fired FBIBoss

Many are wondering what's my 'Plan B' when Trump revokes my security clearance. Well, here it is:

I transform into an undocumented security clearance holder.

Posted by: fly gal at August 16, 2018 06:25 PM (8TdcF)

223 210 Nah,Mueller has no shame and he has one job now.Help get a Democrat majority in the midterms.

Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2018 06:25 PM (LiyEm)

224 The charges against Gen Flynn are even flimsier!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:22 PM (E+no4)

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Mewler knew that. In Flynn's case, he was a warning to others not to screw with Mewler, with the added bonus of the process being the punishment.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 16, 2018 06:25 PM (I16G8)

225 The Manafort With the Iron Mask.

"I...AM.....IRON MANAFORT!"

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2018 06:25 PM (oVJmc)

226 204 "Check out the manliness factor of the fist-pump of the guy in the blue hoodie, second from left in the back row. "

He begins to lactate when he hears infants crying
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

His mere presence causes impotence in a thirty-foot radius wherever he goes. He's like the Typhoid Mary of Erectile Dysfunction.

Posted by: zombie at August 16, 2018 06:25 PM (c+2jX)

227
Is a Manafort acquittal Flaming Skull worthy?
Posted by: Monkfish at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM

He still has another trial after this one and the judge in that trial is the one that revoked his bail

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 16, 2018 06:25 PM (10vO4)

228 Another question from the jury!

"Can we have martinis sent in?"

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 06:25 PM (ULoJS)

229 Check out the manliness factor of the fist-pump of the guy in the blue hoodie, second from left in the back row.

Dude has an estrogen-to-testosterone ratio of about 35-to-1.
Posted by: Obama in diaper-fetish cosplay at August 16, 2018 06:22 PM (c+2jX)

...

In fairness, it's hard clenching your hand into a fist the first time.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2018 06:25 PM (yL25O)

230 Manafort was supposed to flip on Trump... so to speak.... Mueller is just a leftist thug.... Obama grew a LOT of thuggery in his 8 years....

Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (ffWPP)

231 175 I didn't know ostriches wore jackets.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM (dNzKv)
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I didn't either but I guess it makes sense on a chilly night.
What I don't get are the ostrich boots.
You'd think they'd get sand in 'em.
Maybe they're thigh-high. Or laced up like work "boots" that are really shoes.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (0jtPF)

232 I would totally wear an ostrich leather jacket.

Posted by: April at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (e8PP1)

233 >>Has anyone ever been convicted of that ?

Of FARA violations? It's not common but it has happened.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (/tuJf)

234 It sounds like Manafort has been treated harshly while in prison-in solitary confinement most of the day, etc. They really want him to turn on Trump. He may be a sleezeball but I don't think he deserved that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (AllCR)

235
I would guess Bankruptcy would be the only way out of those loans.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (E+no4)

236 Is a Manafort acquittal Flaming Skull worthy?
Posted by: Monkfish at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM

...

We need to decide which high hill we will all meet on as we drink and watch the cities burn.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (yL25O)

237 ''I'm not big on opera but I like that one.''

It's many years old, but Ingmar Bergman made a movie of "The Magic Flute" that is enchanting.

Posted by: Tuna at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (jm1YL)

238 I dont think Flynn should have pled guilty

Posted by: runner at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (bUjCl)

239 a feather jacket would be very elvis-esque
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Pfft. https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8wb32a9

Posted by: Liberace at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (CDGwz)

240 Maybe reasonable doubt if Manafort is a a comedian and they are on Candid Camera

Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (lxZ71)

241 Does anyone know how a parent who cosigned a child's student loans and is now indigent can be removed from the loans? Is that at all possible?
Posted by: biancaneve

Rewatch "Goodfellas" and pay attention to the "fuck you, pay me" scene. Pretty sure that's your answer. Sorry.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (KdqkX)

242 195 Manafort seems to be a slimeball, but he should be convicted based on the testimony of an even bigger slimeball? I would love a total acquittal on all accounts, just for the leftist freakout. It would be amazing! I suspect, however, that he'll be found guilty on a few charges and acquitted on most.
Posted by: biancaneve at August 16, 2018 06:21 PM (A/iod)

Mueller is an even bigger slime ball. It's a slime fest.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 16, 2018 06:27 PM (nBr1j)

243 Stay tuned for Manafort!

In color.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Possibly Confused at August 16, 2018 06:27 PM (xPJvm)

244 Flynn took a plea deal though did he not?

Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2018 06:23 PM (LiyEm)

Flynn's sentencing has been postponed several times. The judge ordered the prosecution to turn over any exculpatory evidence. Seems there may have been a Brady violation by the prosecution.

He may get off yet.

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:27 PM (M+Lyo)

245 235
I would guess Bankruptcy would be the only way out of those loans.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (E+no4)

I was gonna say seppuku, or alien abduction.....

Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2018 06:27 PM (ffWPP)

246 220 IDGAF what Manafort wears, and neither does America, methinks
Posted by: runner at August 16, 2018 06:24 PM (bUjCl)

...

There should be a "who wore it better" between Manafort and Michelle Obama.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2018 06:28 PM (yL25O)

247 128

It's made of Ostrich Skin??

That's sick, man.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:13 PM (E+no4)

No, that's a typo. It's actually made from Susan Estrich, not ostrich. So, darker and more wrinkly.

Posted by: StefanH at August 16, 2018 06:28 PM (f1rm5)

248 There should be a "who wore it better" between Manafort and Michelle Obama.
Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2018 06:28 PM (yL25O)

AWESOME !

Posted by: runner at August 16, 2018 06:28 PM (bUjCl)

249 >>Flynn pleaded out?
Why hasn't been pardoned yet?

He won't need to be pardoned.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2018 06:28 PM (/tuJf)

250 238 No but most cases wind up with the accused taking a plea deal.I have seen a number like over 90%.Not all those people are guilty either...

Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2018 06:28 PM (LiyEm)

251 >> who would want to wear an ostrich jacket, that cost $15,000!?

What's the lining look like?

Posted by: garrett at August 16, 2018 06:28 PM (vaju7)

252 197
The Plan was to put the screws to Manafort so he'd corroborate the fake dossier, I believe.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:22 PM (E+no4)

---

He didn't give false testimony against Trump
like they wanted. Now they're making an example of him to show what happens to people who refuse to provide false testimony.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 16, 2018 06:28 PM (nfvfi)

253 I would guess Bankruptcy would be the only way out of those loans.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (E+no4)

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I don't think student loans can be bankrupted.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 16, 2018 06:29 PM (I16G8)

254 He may be a sleezeball but I don't think he deserved that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Entering your house in the early hours, terrorizing wife and kids, having the cuffs slapped on, your house rifled, placed in solitary confinement?

And yet Hillary, et al, walk about freely.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 06:29 PM (xSo9G)

255 I think if I was on the jury I would have to believe it's all a set up for a reality show.

Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2018 06:29 PM (lxZ71)

256 There has to be a story behind that feminist men picture. What are they doing in the forest, out of doors, not in their basement dwellings?

Take that picture and photoshop a caption - "This is Antifa!"

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 16, 2018 06:29 PM (XeN7w)

257 I don't think student loans can be bankrupted.

They can't

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:29 PM (O2RFr)

258 Manafort may or may not be guilty, but we're really beyond this. This case is not - NOT - about justice. This is simply one small piece of a conspiracy that has failed to materialize.

The entire purpose of this case was to get Trump. Why the hell should I care now about wanting to "get" Manafort for something irrelevant that he may or may not have done years ago when this entire spectacle would never have been brought to light had the Deplorables not elected an outsider to the presidency?

This isn't about law and truth. This is about an injustice wherein Manafort was a pawn. Screw the State. It has lost its authority to prosecute fairly.

On the upside Americans get a reminder about how corrupted our "best" institutions have become and the lengths to which they will go to satisfy their interests over those of regular citizens.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 16, 2018 06:30 PM (6eEQ+)

259 More likely to be a hung jury than an outright acquittal. But a jury nullification either way

And Flynn was framed and Mueller was part of that conspiracy

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 16, 2018 06:30 PM (ORW9i)

260 I don't think student loans can be bankrupted.
Posted by: Calm Mentor
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We'll forgive them!

Posted by: Bernie & fellow travelers at August 16, 2018 06:30 PM (xSo9G)

261 SEE MY VEST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3w4pjE90ZU

Posted by: Montgomery Burns at August 16, 2018 06:30 PM (vaju7)

262 He may be a sleezeball but I don't think he deserved that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (AllCR)

I agree Fen.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 16, 2018 06:30 PM (dUJdY)

263 I don't think student loans can be bankrupted.
Posted by: Calm Mentor

Nope. Once they got you, they got you.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 16, 2018 06:30 PM (KdqkX)

264 "41 If acquitted GOP professionals should gather around the courthouse shooting their AK's into the air, a la a middle eastern celebration, claiming its a cultural thing in response to anyone who gets upset. Just to add some flavor to the post-holiday reportage from the MSM.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (ULoJS)"

Oh, this, so many ways !

No more suppressing Who We Are just to please The Man !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 16, 2018 06:30 PM (58Au8)

265 235
I would guess Bankruptcy would be the only way out of those loans.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:26 PM (E+no4)

Not just that, as student loans aren't routinely dischargeable. You have to make a showing of undue hardship. Get in touch with a bankruptcy lawyer.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 06:30 PM (NWiLs)

266

The Plan was to put the screws to Manafort so he'd corroborate the fake dossier, I believe.

That's my understanding as well.

Hey Bobby Mewler, nice guilty verdict you got there. It'd be a shame if something were to happen to it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 06:30 PM (HaL55)

267 ''I don't think student loans can be bankrupted.''

Nope, they cannot.

Posted by: Tuna at August 16, 2018 06:30 PM (jm1YL)

268 If Manafort doesn't get a guilty plea slapped on him there will be a collective meltdown.
For a day. Then back to the next great Trump outrage.

Posted by: thathalfrican - GOOD at August 16, 2018 06:30 PM (IYHxL)

269 And... Wolf...it looks like we are now going live on the court-house steps to our legal correspondent, Omarosa Manigault-Newman and she's with Michael Avenetti, our Legal Consultant....

Omarosa, we understand you have tapes of the jury deliberations?
Posted by: CNN, Fake News You Can Use! at August 16, 2018 06:19 PM

Omarosa: Yes, Wolf, I managed to get the audio in there on a lunch tray. Juror 1 ordered a ham sandwich and I can tell you right now that sandwich is about to be indicted as a co-conspirator. Juror 2 got chicken salad on rye toast-

Wolf: (interrupting) Uh, thank you for that, uh, fascinating report.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 16, 2018 06:31 PM (2NqXo)

270 Good thing the Manafort's didn't have a dog...

Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2018 06:31 PM (LiyEm)

271 Manafort may or may not be guilty, but we're really beyond this. This case is not - NOT - about justice. This is simply one small piece of a conspiracy that has failed to materialize.

The entire purpose of this case was to get Trump. Why the hell should I care now about wanting to "get" Manafort for something irrelevant that he may or may not have done years ago when this entire spectacle would never have been brought to light had the Deplorables not elected an outsider to the presidency?

This isn't about law and truth. This is about an injustice wherein Manafort was a pawn. Screw the State. It has lost its authority to prosecute fairly.

On the upside Americans get a reminder about how corrupted our "best" institutions have become and the lengths to which they will go to satisfy their interests over those of regular citizens.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 16, 2018 06:30 PM (6eEQ+)

yet the ruling class is rarely held to the same standard

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:31 PM (M+Lyo)

272 He won't need to be pardoned.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2018 06:28 PM (/tuJf)

I really, really like the sound of that.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at August 16, 2018 06:31 PM (T71PA)

273 I've been kind of laughing at Hannity lately...

He keeps spouting off the 'FBI has a 95% guilty rate on Prosecution'....

While leaving out it has a 95% Rate of Plea bargaining...

Funny how close those numbers are...

/facepalm

Posted by: Darth Quixote at August 16, 2018 06:31 PM (NgKpN)

274 Only a pimp from a cheap New Orleans whore house would wear an ostrich leather jacket.

Posted by: Geo. S. Patton at August 16, 2018 06:31 PM (oVJmc)

275 I mean, the guy wasn't a serial killer, so why did he need to be in solitary and apparently unable to talk to his lawyers. I assume that was Muelller's doing? Mueller is a thug.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2018 06:31 PM (AllCR)

276 Manafort needs to hope that a MAGA person got on the Jury .... They would know that Mueller is a slimebag trying to take down Trump... I got on a jury once by saying everything I knew they wanted me to say to get on it.. I wanted to fry the defendant.... I did.... He was soooo guilty...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:31 PM (O2RFr)

277 Well like I've said before (and others here) were I on the jury I'd vote for acquittal not because he isn't guilty, but because Hillary and co are walking free and untouched. As long as there's no justice for them, there's no justice for anyone else, until they get their crap together at DOJ.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (39g3+)

278 I saw Omarosa's book at Costco today. I don't expect the pile to get any smaller over the next three months.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (nBr1j)

279 Evolution needs to be demoted from theory to hypothesis: https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybygdh3e

Posted by: bonhomme

I like the guy second from the left in the back row, with his thumb on his folded index finger, i.e., in a chick-style fist.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (YqDXo)

280 probably paisley

Posted by: concrete girl at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (Tm+wy)

281 So the mom's just on the hook for the student loans. That's what I thought, but hoped there was a 'let's not bankrupt elderly parents' clause. The daughter is being a biatch and not paying on the loans even though she could afford to, and the mom is stressed out and pays what she can. I've told her to not pay, but she won't do it.

Posted by: biancaneve at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (A/iod)

282 Many a Leftist would love to change that student loan rule, I mean who would be on the hook for those failed loans? It's all Monopoly money, its not real.

Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (lxZ71)

283 Hannity is unwatchable, like a carnival barker, over and over

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (M+Lyo)

284 a feather jacket would be very elvis-esque
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Pfft. https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8wb32a9

http://weird-vintage.com/post/49604471216/elvis-presley-is-inducted-into-the-los-angeles

Posted by: chief ostrich feather at August 16, 2018 06:33 PM (d7Ww2)

285 If Manafort is acquitted Mueller cannot be hung by the neck until dead. Unfortunate.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 16, 2018 06:33 PM (nBr1j)

286 I would say so. It is also ball/boob pudding dipping worthy as well.
Elbows and ass, I'm soaking in it.

Posted by: Monkfish at August 16, 2018 06:33 PM (a1s18)

287 I mean who would be on the hook for those failed loans?
=====

The taxpayer.

Posted by: Democrat Party at August 16, 2018 06:34 PM (//voU)

288 On the upside Americans get a reminder about how corrupted our "best" institutions have become and the lengths to which they will go to satisfy their interests over those of regular citizens.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 16, 2018 06:30 PM (6eEQ+)

yet the ruling class is rarely held to the same standard
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:31 PM (M+Lyo)

I don't think this case had anything to do with Trump either.

Mueller wanted to Prosecute Manafort years ago, when he was the FBI investigator on this stuff... but the DOJ said no...

Now it was up to HIS Prosecutorial Discretion... as Rosenstein has given him Carte Blanche.

Posted by: Darth Quixote at August 16, 2018 06:34 PM (NgKpN)

289
probably paisley

I think the lining is polar bear fur.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:34 PM (E+no4)

290 229 Check out the manliness factor of the fist-pump of the guy in the blue hoodie, second from left in the back row.

Dude has an estrogen-to-testosterone ratio of about 35-to-1.
Posted by: Obama in diaper-fetish cosplay at August 16, 2018 06:22 PM (c+2jX)

...

In fairness, it's hard clenching your hand into a fist the first time.
Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2018 06:25 PM (yL25O)

Sorry, just saw this.

I think that that guy is ovulating.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 16, 2018 06:34 PM (YqDXo)

291 probably paisley

I think the lining is polar bear fur.

Baby seals

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:34 PM (O2RFr)

292
If Manafort is acquitted Mueller cannot be hung by the neck until dead.

Maybe Mueller is a self-starter...

Posted by: Geo. S. Patton at August 16, 2018 06:34 PM (oVJmc)

293 Only a pimp from a cheap New Orleans whore house would wear an ostrich leather jacket.
Posted by: Geo. S. Patton
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LOL

Only at AoSHQ.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 06:34 PM (xSo9G)

294 So the mom's just on the hook for the student loans. That's what I thought, but hoped there was a 'let's not bankrupt elderly parents' clause. The daughter is being a biatch and not paying on the loans even though she could afford to, and the mom is stressed out and pays what she can. I've told her to not pay, but she won't do it.
Posted by: biancaneve at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (A/iod)

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Sounds like Mom needs to sue the daughter, as much as that would suck to have to do.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 16, 2018 06:34 PM (I16G8)

295 SultanKanish has a write up on Omarosa' s book. He is saying its about as factual as the Trump dossier and all hearsay.

Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2018 06:35 PM (lxZ71)

296 283 Hannity is unwatchable, like a carnival barker, over and over
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (M+Lyo)
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I can't listen to the radio show, but I like his TV program. Probably in no small part due to Sara A. Carter, but I suspect the shorter format keeps him from acting like a doofus.

Posted by: Weasel at August 16, 2018 06:35 PM (js33G)

297 I'd like to see charges brought against Mueller for impersonating a human being.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 16, 2018 06:35 PM (bb4ns)

298
The interest rates on student loans are outrageous.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:35 PM (E+no4)

299 I saw Omarosa's book at Costco today. I don't expect the pile to get any smaller over the next three months.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (nBr1j)

I'm going there Sunday. I may or may not do something really bad.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 16, 2018 06:35 PM (dUJdY)

300 290. These fucking people - they really think they're gonna change the world? Faggits can't even change a tire.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (fA1SL)

301 Hey guys remember when all the Geniuses were telling us that Manafort rested without putting on his own defense because there was literally not a single argument in his favor?

Remember when the Geniuses claimed this was a nearly unprecedented tactic, rather than a routine one?

Remember when they showed absolutely no understanding that the defense questions each of the prosecution's witnesses as they're presented, thereby making the defense during the prosecution's case?

Remember how they didn't show any understanding that a defense, even when one is put on, usually consists of one or two witnesses, because most of their case was already gotten across during the prosecutions?

And remember: Always listen to them. They're smart. They tell you so on twitter.

Posted by: ace at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (PA9oZ)

302 probably paisley

I think the lining is polar bear fur.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:34 PM (E+no4)

Minx ... 0.7 alpha. I have shoes made of it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (OYwKq)

303 Erp. Sock off.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (oVJmc)

304 @273
Well if the FIB's comes at you with trumped up charges that could land you in FPMITAP for 100's of years, Manafort faces 305 years in prison, and cost you tens of thousands of dollars or just plead out to say 5 years and fine....

What do you think the typical person is going to opt for.

FEDGov is corrupt and lawless.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (kT3/m)

305 298
The interest rates on student loans are outrageous.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:35 PM (E+no4)

So is the principal. Tuition inflation is out of control.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (NWiLs)

306 If the actual college attendee is not indigent they should be re-paying their damn loans and not trying to stick the indigent parent who was dumb enough to co-sign* with the bill.

*Ramsey listner, whenever asked he says "NEVER ever co-sign on a loan. Either give the person money directly or run away from the situation"

Posted by: PaleRider at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (eASYU)

307 Those beta males look like they are about to dig into some canned potatoes.

Posted by: Max Power at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (q177U)

308 I have a simple solution to tax evasion.

Ban money.

Posted by: Sadiq Khan (Genius Switch Epoxied in the On Position, Bitch) at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (f+xET)

309 297 I'd like to see charges brought against Mueller for impersonating a human being.

He does appear to be one of the lizard people.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (nBr1j)

310
The government gives banks $$ at nearly 0% but charge 6.5% to students? That's bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (E+no4)

311 Seems there may have been a Brady violation by the prosecution.

Marsha or Greg? Hopefully not one of the other kids... that would be sick.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (fVubI)

312
The interest rates on student loans are outrageous.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:35 PM (E+no4)
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Because of the rate of default.

Posted by: Weasel at August 16, 2018 06:37 PM (js33G)

313 MOAR popcorn and pudding cups!

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 16, 2018 06:37 PM (z2xce)

314 Even though I was Army I've always had a grudging admiration for the Marines.

Mueller goes a long way towards lessening my opinion of them.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 16, 2018 06:37 PM (bb4ns)

315 I like the guy second from the left in the back row, with his thumb on his folded index finger, i.e., in a chick-style fist.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (YqDXo)

...

Opposable thumbs are wasted on some people.

He's going to break his if he ever tries to use that hand for anything rougher than coloring books.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2018 06:37 PM (yL25O)

316 300 "I know what a lug wrenchis dad..""Is this a lug wrench?"

Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2018 06:37 PM (LiyEm)

317 I mean, the guy wasn't a serial killer, so why did he need to be in solitary and apparently unable to talk to his lawyers. I assume that was Muelller's doing?

Judge did it, supposedly to "protect" him. That was the line.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 16, 2018 06:37 PM (39g3+)

318 270
Good thing the Manafort's didn't have a dog...

They did.

Posted by: John Wick, Esq. (Manafort Defense Team) at August 16, 2018 06:37 PM (ULoJS)

319 I could buy and sell the whole lot of you riff-raff just using my annual emu sock budget.
Posted by: Paul Manafort at August 16, 2018 06:17 PM (mEjqT)

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My emu socks work great, and they DON'T STINK.
Posted by: Johnny Bench at August 16, 2018 06:18 PM

It's Rhea to find a man who wears Emu socks.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 16, 2018 06:38 PM (2NqXo)

320 I saw Omarosa's book at Costco today. I don't expect the pile to get any smaller over the next three months.

The Bill Clinton and James Patterson book has had the same stack at my local WalMart for months.

Prime spot, too, right by the men's bathrooms.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2018 06:38 PM (oVJmc)

321

Willowed from last thread

244
If you have to ask to clarify reasonable doubt, you have reasonable doubt.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 16, 2018 05:53 PM (10vO4)

Are you sure about that?

Posted by: Minuteman at August 16, 2018 06:38 PM (A3b6q)

322 298
The interest rates on student loans are outrageous.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter

it's a subprime loan scheme run by the government and academia. oddly enough the CFPB don't seem to give a shit.

Posted by: x at August 16, 2018 06:38 PM (nFwvY)

323
And the rate of default is high because of the exorbitant interest rates!

It's a Paradox!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:38 PM (E+no4)

324 put one of the books in the pet food section.

get it?!

Posted by: concrete girl at August 16, 2018 06:38 PM (Tm+wy)

325 Posted by: Jewells45 at August 16, 2018 06:35 PM (dUJdY)

How bad would it be? Don't barf on the books. ;^) I think I;d be tempted to turn most of them upside down and bring posts it most with snarky sayings but that's just me. What did you have in mind?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2018 06:39 PM (AllCR)

326 The Bill Clinton and James Patterson book has had the same stack at my local WalMart for months.

Yeah, Patterson really shit the bed on that one. What a moroon.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 16, 2018 06:39 PM (dUJdY)

327 I think Gen Flynn is probably a decent guy and didn't want his family drug through the mud in the carnival that it would have been. I don't believe Manafort is a decent guy, and had nothing to lose.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 16, 2018 06:39 PM (dNzKv)

328 281 So the mom's just on the hook for the student loans. ....The daughter is being a biatch and not paying on the loans even though she could afford to.....
Posted by: biancaneve at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (A/iod)
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How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 16, 2018 06:39 PM (0jtPF)

329 309 297 I'd like to see charges brought against Mueller for impersonating a human being.

He does appear to be one of the lizard people.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (nBr1j)

Morena Baccarin is cute.... but very very moody....

Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2018 06:39 PM (ffWPP)

330 327 I think Gen Flynn is probably a decent guy and didn't want his family drug through the mud in the carnival that it would have been.

He was being bankrupted

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:39 PM (O2RFr)

331 "Are you sure about that?"

Reasonably sure, yes.

Posted by: Journeyman Pedant at August 16, 2018 06:40 PM (HiLJ1)

332 And remember: Always listen to them. They're smart.

I'm flashing back to election night in 2016 when Wolf Blitzer would characterize every 2,000 vote Hillary lead with 2% of the precincts in as "substantial."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 16, 2018 06:40 PM (f+xET)

333 322 298
The interest rates on student loans are outrageous.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter

it's a subprime loan scheme run by the government and academia. oddly enough the CFPB don't seem to give a shit.
Posted by: x at August 16, 2018 06:38 PM (nFwvY)

Money laundering. Government backed student loans go to the universities which are almost all hard-left, the universities give money to the Democrats, rinse and repeat.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 06:40 PM (NWiLs)

334 Why Fen!! You must have read my mind

I'm the post it note queen you know. Left tons of them in Walmart during Obama's reign.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 16, 2018 06:40 PM (dUJdY)

335 281 So the mom's just on the hook for the student loans. ....The daughter is being a biatch and not paying on the loans even though she could afford to.....
Posted by: biancaneve at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (A/iod)

...

Mom should sue the kid.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2018 06:40 PM (yL25O)

336 Manafort is no sleazier than the rest of his type in DC,it's just that he was targeted because he worked for Trump.

Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2018 06:40 PM (LiyEm)

337 Morena Baccarin is cute.... but very very moody....

For a rack like that I would make allowances

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM (ULoJS)

338 336 Manafort is no sleazier than the rest of his type in DC,it's just that he was targeted because he worked for Trump.

Exactly

Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM (O2RFr)

339
I mean, the guy wasn't a serial killer, so why did he need to be in solitary and apparently unable to talk to his lawyers.

I think if I was in a county lockup I'd prefer to be in solitary.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM (10vO4)

340 And the rate of default is high because of the exorbitant interest rates!
--

I thought you couldn't default on student loan. Well, I mean declare bankruptcy. Default means you aren't paying, but the interest continues to accrue, and the government will get its money, one way or another.

There needs to be an investigation to see how many homeless people are living on the street because of student loan debt they can't pay.

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM (XeN7w)

341 hink Gen Flynn is probably a decent guy and didn't want his family drug through the mud in the carnival that it would have been. I don't believe Manafort is a decent guy, and had nothing to lose.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August

not that that is really the point. decent or indecent should not be a function when determining guilt or innocence.

Posted by: ? at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM (MTjB1)

342 Posted by: Jewells45 at August 16, 2018 06:40 PM (dUJdY)

Good for you! You'll have to share with us what you decide to write if you go that route. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM (AllCR)

343 Get a nice looking Free sign.

Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM (lxZ71)

344 Which Firefly babe has aged the best?

Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM (LiyEm)

345 Cosigning loans.... my Dad was not a fan.... smart guy...

Posted by: kraken at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM (ffWPP)

346 Yes Hannity can be hard to take. But without him we wouldn't have President Trump. And he's been one of the few in journalism that's been fighting for truth and he has a big soapbox

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM (ORW9i)

347 If Manafort gets acquitted of the jury is hung does Mueller's straight shooter status get revoked?
BTW how does one get straight shooter status? Is there a special course? Do you have to orally pleasure Bill Kristol?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM (nBr1j)

348 I think Gen Flynn is probably a decent guy and didn't want his family drug through the mud in the carnival that it would have been.

He was being bankrupted
Posted by: It's me donna at August 16, 2018 06:39 PM (O2RFr)

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I believe he still is, unless I missed where his case had been settled.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM (I16G8)

349 Morena Baccarin is cute.... but very very moody....

For a rack like that I would make allowances
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan

she is a lousy lay.

Posted by: ? at August 16, 2018 06:42 PM (MTjB1)

350 And dammit, I keep forgetting to write Trump lives her on the backs of my 20 dollar bills.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 16, 2018 06:42 PM (dUJdY)

351 So is the principal. Tuition inflation is out of control.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 06:36 PM (NWiLs)

This. Put myself through school. I graduated in 1986. Made $6.00 an hour and had $5,000 in student loan debt. $61 a month for 10 years.

No way to do that now. Not even at a community college.

Posted by: golfman at August 16, 2018 06:42 PM (If3tB)

352 I believe the Mooch has a book coming out in November. Just in time for Christmas gift giving.

Posted by: Tuna at August 16, 2018 06:42 PM (jm1YL)

353 The daughter is being a biatch and not paying on the loans even though she could afford to.....

Posted by: biancaneve at August 16, 2018 06:32 PM (A/iod)

That's a terrible thing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 06:42 PM (ULoJS)

354 Opposable thumbs are wasted on some people.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2018 06:37 PM (yL25O)

That's why they invented soccer.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 16, 2018 06:42 PM (OYwKq)

355 Check out the manliness factor of the fist-pump of the guy in the blue hoodie, second from left in the back row.

Hoody boy had to swing his torso out AND raise the other arm towards his center of gravity to help himself slightly raise his noodle arm.

Like when you see a guy in the gym lifting dumbbells way beyond his ability, he had to swing his body to get that arm up.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 16, 2018 06:42 PM (9qZ3S)

356 Pleading guilty to BS charge of lying to the FBi and so on, making yourself into a criminal does not exactly elevate the family name.

Posted by: runner at August 16, 2018 06:42 PM (bUjCl)

357 Flynn hasn't been sentenced.

Because Mueller is trying to bait Trump into pardoning Flynn before he issues his report so that he can scream "Obstruction!"

Tell me I'm wrong.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 16, 2018 06:42 PM (f+xET)

358 *here not her

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 16, 2018 06:42 PM (dUJdY)

359 >>>Remember when they showed absolutely no understanding that the defense questions each of the prosecution's witnesses as they're presented, thereby making the defense during the prosecution's case?

Remember when they told us to vote for Hillary fucking Clinton?

Posted by: Max Power at August 16, 2018 06:43 PM (q177U)

360 Money laundering. Government backed student loans go to the universities which are almost all hard-left, the universities give money to the Democrats, rinse and repeat.
Posted by: Insomniac
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Harboring billions of dollars in endowments, while paying absurd salaries to Profs, and collecting insane tuitions.

If it were left to me, I would not authorize loans for students attending any school with an endowment in excess of, oh, $10 million. Maybe only $1 million.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 06:43 PM (CDGwz)

361 340: There needs to be classes on parenting so parents refuse to allow their kids to go way into debt for a degree that will get them a barista job.

Posted by: PaleRider at August 16, 2018 06:43 PM (eASYU)

362 Pleading guilty to BS charge of lying to the FBi and so on, making yourself into a criminal does not exactly elevate the family name.
Posted by: runner at August

perhaps not, however, ruining your family name is the least of the horrible options on the path he was going down.

Posted by: ? at August 16, 2018 06:43 PM (MTjB1)

363 Weasel: "I can't listen to the radio show, but I like his TV program. Probably in no small part due to Sara A. Carter, but I suspect the shorter format keeps him from acting like a doofus."

To be fair, Hannity can still indeed fill the shorter format with wall-to-wall doofii. I like Hannity and his show brings great coverage to all that wouldn't be covered. If only he would let his guests speak more than one sentence...

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 16, 2018 06:43 PM (6eEQ+)

364 I believe the Mooch has a book coming out in November. Just in time for Christmas gift giving.
Posted by: Tuna at August 16, 2018 06:42 PM (jm1YL)

And after-Christmas regifting.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 16, 2018 06:44 PM (AcZtS)

365 "But this is always a problem when there are several criminals in an organization, all possibly guilty of the most serious crimes."

I forget--are we talking about Manafort or Mueller?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 16, 2018 06:44 PM (Ndje9)

366
346 Yes Hannity can be hard to take. But without him we wouldn't have President Trump. And he's been one of the few in journalism that's been fighting for truth and he has a big soapbox
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM (ORW9i)
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Yep.

Posted by: Weasel at August 16, 2018 06:44 PM (MVjcR)

367 IIRC, you can't default on a student loan. But if you're deliquent, you can be raided by a Dept of Education SWAT team.

Posted by: Hands at August 16, 2018 06:44 PM (EzdLW)

368 Flynn hasn't been sentenced.

Because Mueller is trying to bait Trump into pardoning Flynn before he issues his report so that he can scream "Obstruction!"

Tell me I'm wrong.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August

prove you are not

Posted by: ? at August 16, 2018 06:44 PM (MTjB1)

369 A few people thought If Mueller's crack team couldn't convict Manafort he was done for

Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2018 06:44 PM (lxZ71)

370 Yeah, I saw resting without a defense as a sign of high confidence, with maybe a little contempt for a crap prosecution thrown in.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 16, 2018 06:44 PM (58Au8)

371 Tonight on the Lido Deck we have the Beltway Quagmire Cuckbois opening for the Ozark Mountain Daredevils.

youtube.com/watch?v=fou-DoVXS2M

Posted by: William Kristol, Editor-At-Large at August 16, 2018 06:44 PM (CdLX2)

372
Seems there may have been a Brady violation by the prosecution.
Marsha or Greg?

Football to the nose!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 16, 2018 06:44 PM (IqV8l)

373 Judge did it, supposedly to "protect" him. That was the line.

I thought they said he was trying to tamper with a witness.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 16, 2018 06:45 PM (9qZ3S)

374 Will let you know Fen!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 16, 2018 06:45 PM (dUJdY)

375 Let them extend loans from their endowments.

They can offer them to anybody they want, and they can worry about getting paid back.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2018 06:45 PM (oVJmc)

376
nood

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 16, 2018 06:45 PM (E+no4)

377 Harboring billions of dollars in endowments, while paying absurd salaries to Profs, and collecting insane tuitions.

If it were left to me, I would not authorize loans for students attending any school with an endowment in excess of, oh, $10 million. Maybe only $1 million.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 06:43 PM (CDGwz)

...

The schools are perfectly capable of issuing their own loans, which they should be forced to back.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 16, 2018 06:45 PM (yL25O)

378 "If the actual college attendee is not indigent they should be re-paying their damn loans and not trying to stick the indigent parent who was dumb enough to co-sign* with the bill."

Sound advice, PaleRider. Unfortunately, the damage was already done, long before I met the mom. Two of the loans are at 11%!

Posted by: biancaneve at August 16, 2018 06:46 PM (A/iod)

379 310 The government gives banks $$ at nearly 0% but charge 6.5% to students? That's bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter

Considering the rate of defaults they we the people are on the hook for (thanks again, TFG you nickelfucking cockweasel!), 6.5% doesn't begin to cover the overall program losses.

Gubmint should NOT be in the student loan bizness.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2018 06:46 PM (0ogQG)

380
Because Mueller is trying to bait Trump into pardoning Flynn before he issues his report so that he can scream "Obstruction!"
Tell me I'm wrong.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August

You're wrong. Pardoning doesn't obstruct justice because he's already been found guilty.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 16, 2018 06:46 PM (10vO4)

381 375 Let them extend loans from their endowments.

They can offer them to anybody they want, and they can worry about getting paid back.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 16, 2018 06:45 PM (oVJmc)

I like Insty's idea of requiring universities to guarantee the student loans. Put their money where there mouth is.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 06:46 PM (NWiLs)

382 357 Flynn hasn't been sentenced.

Because Mueller is trying to bait Trump into pardoning Flynn before he issues his report so that he can scream "Obstruction!"

Tell me I'm wrong.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 16, 2018 06:42 PM (f+xET)

The original Judge in the case had to recuse themselves, because too involved with the Prosecution.

But its not settled because it sits on Rosenstein's desk... and while people still defend him as Mr. Straight Shooter...

I think he's more a feckless coward who can be coerced into going along... and won't put his foot down on blatant misuse of power.

Posted by: Darth Quixote at August 16, 2018 06:46 PM (NgKpN)

383 I would say so. It is also ball/boob pudding dipping worthy as well.

Posted by: Timon at August 16, 2018 06:23 PM (h3t5U)

Pretty much every day that ends in Y is a boobeh-pudding-dip-worthy day.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 16, 2018 06:46 PM (8iiMU)

384 45 30 How many jurors are lining up guest spots on MSNBC and CNN to accuse other jurors of being paid off?
Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2018 06:02 PM (zRwJ/)

That would be a hung jury rather than an acquittal?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 06:04 PM (ujg0T)

Yep. Can see that as a definite possible outcome.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 16, 2018 06:46 PM (zRwJ/)

385 There needs to be classes on parenting so parents refuse to allow their kids to go way into debt for a degree that will get them a barista job.
Posted by: PaleRider

There also needs to be a reckoning in the K-12 scam. Kids are brainwashed their whole lives that they have to get a degree so they can get a decent job. Then they let 18 year olds sign on for $100K+ worth of debt.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 16, 2018 06:46 PM (KdqkX)

386 *their

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 06:46 PM (NWiLs)

387 @357

Nah, Mueller is just an inhuman cocksucker and is still trying to screw Flynn by delaying sentencing forcing Flynn to retain very expensive counsel.

The last I heard Mueller hasn't even prepared a pre-sentencing report for the judge in the case.

Flynn's persecution continues.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2018 06:46 PM (kT3/m)

388 my best advice for parents who have children with loans they cosigned for...get them a gym membership and have them marry someone rich. what the old folks would call a missus degree.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 16, 2018 06:46 PM (GoLZO)

389 Anyone who thinks Paul Manafort's a little bitch who'll just bend over and take it is a fool.

And Mueller is a fool.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 16, 2018 06:47 PM (VQH4r)

390 Judge did it, supposedly to "protect" him. That was the line.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Well, if you really wanna get conspiratorial ...

If Manafort got 'got' in the pen, the Left and the NeverTurnipers would be screaming,"TRUMP HAD HIM KILLED TO PREVENT HIM TURNING STATE'S WITNESS!!! REEEEEE!"

So, mebbe the judge was just avoiding the possibility.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 16, 2018 06:47 PM (1jWCo)

391 I wonder what manafort would say upon ... well, why even wait? If Mueller WAS putting the screws to him to compose about trump, why would he keep silent about that?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 16, 2018 06:47 PM (GoLZO)

392 Which Firefly babe has aged the best?
Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2018 06:41 PM

Adam Baldwin?

Posted by: Hands at August 16, 2018 06:47 PM (EzdLW)

393 >>Yes Hannity can be hard to take. But without him we wouldn't have President Trump. And he's been one of the few in journalism that's been fighting for truth and he has a big soapbox

I watch him for his guests. Sara Carter, John Solomon and others. They have been the ones leading the charge to uncover the corruption.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2018 06:48 PM (/tuJf)

394 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 16, 2018 06:34 PM (YqDXo)

In the words of Ace he looks like he's had a nice relaxing sip of penis once or fifty times in his life.

Posted by: thathalfrican - GOOD at August 16, 2018 06:48 PM (IYHxL)

395 361 340: There needs to be classes on parenting so parents refuse to allow their kids to go way into debt for a degree that will get them a barista job.
Posted by: PaleRider

Applying the Dodd Frank Ability To Repay rule to student loans would fix a lot of shit. There's no reason those loans should be treated any different than others.

Posted by: x at August 16, 2018 06:48 PM (nFwvY)

396 Also, it's amsuing manafort contacted witnesses which no free living american red blooded man would ever allow happen in a criminal trial while it was clear that Gates was coached the fuck up on how to talk pretty on direct examination.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 16, 2018 06:48 PM (GoLZO)

397 perhaps not, however, ruining your family name is the least of the horrible options on the path he was going down.
Posted by: ? at August 16, 2018 06:43 PM (MTjB1)

my comment was in response to those who feel that taking the guilty plea was a way to shield the family. which it did not do.

Posted by: runner at August 16, 2018 06:48 PM (bUjCl)

398 There needs to be classes on parenting so parents refuse to allow their kids to go way into debt for a degree that will get them a barista job.
Posted by: PaleRider

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yeah, it's pretty evil. But since your kids are all dicks, enjoy.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 16, 2018 06:49 PM (GoLZO)

399 Mueller was going to destroy Flynn and probably several family members/ associated with endless court hearings and charges. When the prosecutor has unlimited funds there is a whole lot he can do to you without really doing anything and say "Were not filing charges after all" meanwhile you are a half million in debt to lawyers. Between Flynn and Manafort mueller needs jail time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 16, 2018 06:49 PM (dNzKv)

400 There needs to be classes on parenting so parents refuse to allow their kids to go way into debt for a degree that will get them a barista job.
Posted by: PaleRider at August 16, 2018 06:43 PM (eASYU)

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I told my daughter early on in her HS years that we would cover her College only if she went for a degree that would train her to make a living with it. Not Liberal Arts or Womens Studies BS degree.

She listened and chose Nursing. She will do well.

There shouldn't have to be classes, there used to be a thing called "common sense".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 16, 2018 06:49 PM (I16G8)

401
The only guest Hannity doesn't interrupt is Mark Levin

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 16, 2018 06:49 PM (10vO4)

402 legalinsurrection.com - hillary clinton praises 11 year old who kneeled during pledge of allegiance

Your would have been President, of course if that happened little Mariana would be off to a Gulag.

Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2018 06:49 PM (lxZ71)

403 Yes Hannity can be hard to take. But without him we wouldn't have
President Trump. And he's been one of the few in journalism that's been
fighting for truth and he has a big soapbox

I don't get the hard to take part about Hannity. It seems almost de rigeur (whatever the hell that means) to put him down while still agreeing with him.

So the guys passionate and zealous. So what. Where is he wrong?

At least he's in the fight.

The Jonah Goldberg's and Bill Kristol's could take a lessno from him if they were anything but traitorous weasels.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 16, 2018 06:50 PM (bb4ns)

404 Why did Rosenstein pick Mueller? He had other choices

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 16, 2018 06:50 PM (4NjhD)

405 Flynn's sentencing has been postponed several times. The judge ordered the prosecution to turn over any exculpatory evidence. Seems there may have been a Brady violation by the prosecution.

He may get off yet.

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:50 PM (M+Lyo)

406 say "Were not filing charges after all" meanwhile you are a half million in debt to lawyers. Between Flynn and Manafort mueller needs jail time.

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so strange that flynn didn't do no gofundme

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 16, 2018 06:50 PM (GoLZO)

407 a feather jacket would be very elvis-esque

-
How about a rattlesnake skin dress? Back in 1925, a mother and her young son wandered into a rattlesnake den(?) and were attacked by a large number of rattlers. "Rattlesnake Kate" shot a number of snakes but, not wanting to use all of her ammunition, used a "no hunting" sign to continue over the next two hours to kill rattlers before she could make it back to the horses. They later collected 140 dead rattlers. She subsequently fashioned a dress from the skins.

https://bit.ly/2MnkUKJ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 16, 2018 06:50 PM (+y/Ru)

408 I doubt there are enough fists in the world to do justice to Mueller's face.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 16, 2018 06:51 PM (nBr1j)

409 Comey testified to Congress that the FBI did not think Flynn lied. There was a second agent involved in the interview with Strzok, Joe Pientka, and he doesn't think Flynn lied.

There is a lot of speculation at it seems to be backed up the Strzok-Page texts that the 302s were changed.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2018 06:51 PM (/tuJf)

410 The schools are perfectly capable of issuing their own loans, which they should be forced to back.
Posted by: TexasDan

the loans could be funded with their pension endowments AKA skin in the game

Posted by: x at August 16, 2018 06:51 PM (nFwvY)

411 think Gen Flynn is probably a decent guy and didn't want his family drug through the mud in the carnival that it would have been.

He was being bankrupted
Posted by: It's me donna

He had to sell his house because of the Lawyer bills

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 16, 2018 06:52 PM (dKiJG)

412 my comment was in response to those who feel that taking the guilty plea was a way to shield the family. which it did not do.
Posted by: runner at August

his son was being threatened with prosecution so if pleading protected his son then it protected his family.

Posted by: ? at August 16, 2018 06:52 PM (MTjB1)

413 Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 16, 2018 06:49 PM (10vO4)
I think hes afraid of Levin.

Posted by: thathalfrican - GOOD at August 16, 2018 06:52 PM (IYHxL)

414 Flynn's original judge was also a FISA judge and pals with Strzok, which he forgot to mention. It is thought that the Chief Justice himself yanked his corrupt ass off the case. And the new judge is foursquare against government railroading after the Ted Stevens debacle.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 16, 2018 06:52 PM (Ndje9)

415 Do either Manafort or Gates pronounce youths as yutes?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 16, 2018 06:52 PM (nBr1j)

416 Rosenstein picking Muller ? because in one big incestuous family

Posted by: Skip at August 16, 2018 06:53 PM (lxZ71)

417 Do either Manafort or Gates pronounce youths as yutes?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 16, 2018 06:52 PM (nBr1j)

One of my favorite lines is when Vinny says "everything that guy just said is bullshit"

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:54 PM (M+Lyo)

418 One of my favorite lines is when Vinny says "everything that guy just said is bullshit"

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:54 PM (M+Lyo)

and Marissa Tomei, rrrrrrr

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 16, 2018 06:54 PM (M+Lyo)

419 Mueller spent years and millions attacking and trying to frame Steven Hatfill for a series of anthrax attacks just after 9/11.

Mueller is an idiot who has proved highly incompetent throughout his career.

But when is the last time you met a truly competent government bureaucrat?

Posted by: WarEagle82 at August 16, 2018 06:58 PM (xUc0d)

420 So was it the prosecution or the defense that examined Gates with this line of questioning:

"So Mr. Gates, isn't it true that Mr. Manafort failed repeatedly to file his taxes for the hundreds of thousands of dollars that were embezzed?"

"Yes that is true."

"And Mr. Gates, isn't it true that that the hundreds of thousands of dollars that were embezzed were used for vacations and travel and gifts to a mistress?"

"Yes, that too is true."

"And is it true that Mr. Manafort has a $15000 ugly ass Ostrich jacket that would only be worn by a pimp in a New Orleans whorehouse?"

"Yes he does, it's very, very ugly.'

"I rest my case!"

Posted by: Minuteman at August 16, 2018 07:03 PM (A3b6q)

421 Mueller is an idiot who has proved highly incompetent throughout his career.

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It looks like Mueller is quite competent in landing a large paycheck and keeping it.

Posted by: Sons of Peter Gunn at August 16, 2018 07:03 PM (XeN7w)

422 411 think Gen Flynn is probably a decent guy and didn't want his family drug through the mud in the carnival that it would have been.

He was being bankrupted
Posted by: It's me donna

He had to sell his house because of the Lawyer bills
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 16, 2018 06:52 PM (dKiJG)

Yes. I wish someone had done a GoFund Me page for him.

Makes me ill to think Peter S. got so much money from his. He's laughing all the way to the bank. Crime paid off well for him.

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 16, 2018 07:04 PM (qyZxC)

423 406
say "Were not filing charges after all" meanwhile you are a half
million in debt to lawyers. Between Flynn and Manafort mueller needs
jail time.

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so strange that flynn didn't do no gofundme

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 16, 2018 06:50 PM (GoLZO)
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Didn't he try, and gofundme took it down? That happened to someone, was it Flynn?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 16, 2018 07:06 PM (UsCnO)

424 Applying the Dodd Frank Ability To Repay rule to student loans would fix a lot of shit. There's no reason those loans should be treated any different than others.
Posted by: x at August 16, 2018 06:48 PM (nFwvY)

They are treated differently bcz students were increasing pulling a scam. They'd graduate from college and before getting a job, would file bankruptcy. Then, once that was done, start their careers. It was revolting. I do not want to return to that. If we do, you, Mr. Taxpayer will be funding the 4 year colleg party (IMO, ever since govt. took over giving loans, instead of banks, people don't take it seriously. It's one more "right" instead of an earned opportunity. That's how we got gender studies and all the other worthless crap.)

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 16, 2018 07:12 PM (qyZxC)

425 I don't get the hard to take part about Hannity. It
seems almost de rigeur (whatever the hell that means) to put him down
while still agreeing with him.

So the guys passionate and zealous. So what. Where is he wrong?

At least he's in the fight.

The Jonah Goldberg's and Bill Kristol's could take a lessno from him if they were anything but traitorous weasels.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 16, 2018 06:50 PM (bb4ns)
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Hannity will take 300 words to say what he could say in 100 words. He asks multi-part compound questions, then when his guest expert starts answering the ridiculously long question, Hannity invariably cuts them off right when they are maybe half done with the answer.
If I cut off anyone in a conversation a tenth of what Hannity does, my mother would raise hell and tell me I was brought up with more manners than that.

I would volunteer for a job to push the button on a hidden shock collar every time he cuts someone off. I would have the problem solved by the end of the show.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 16, 2018 07:14 PM (UsCnO)

426 So the guys passionate and zealous. So what. Where is he wrong?

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I respect Sean Hannity as man and as an broadcaster. He's been a damn good man, and he's fought fearlessly, and taken a lot of bullshit for us.

He also annoys the living shit out of me.

I like Mark Levin too, but he's got a voice for newsprint. NYers just grate on me, I guess.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 16, 2018 07:19 PM (VQH4r)

427 424
Applying the Dodd Frank Ability To Repay rule to student loans would fix
a lot of shit. There's no reason those loans should be treated any
different than others.

Posted by: x at August 16, 2018 06:48 PM (nFwvY)

They are treated differently bcz students were increasing pulling a
scam. They'd graduate from college and before getting a job, would file
bankruptcy. Then, once that was done, start their careers. It was
revolting. I do not want to return to that. If we do, you, Mr.
Taxpayer will be funding the 4 year colleg party (IMO, ever since govt.
took over giving loans, instead of banks, people don't take it
seriously. It's one more "right" instead of an earned opportunity.
That's how we got gender studies and all the other worthless crap.)

Posted by: platypus, gumdrop gorilla channel at August 16, 2018 07:12 PM (qyZxC)
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Make the school partly responsible for the loans, defined by the future success of the degree. An engineer or an accountant degree will get one a good job, womyn's studies and gender identification degrees, not so much.

Teach womyn's studies, fine. When the loan defaults, you, dear school are a co-signer. Chomp, chomp, chomp. So maybe next year, increase the # of engineer and accountant students, and cut back on the gender studies stuff.

Radical idea, I admit. Being responsible for one's own actions.

The Horror!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 16, 2018 07:19 PM (UsCnO)

428 Also, it appears that Manafort understands and keeps the G Code.

A rare thing, that - a hardcore, skull-cracking thug you can actually count on when the prosecitor's up in the muthafucka's grill every single day.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 16, 2018 07:26 PM (VQH4r)

429 God make this happen...it would be good for the country.

The entertainment value would only be second to Trump winning the 2016 election.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 16, 2018 07:27 PM (MuTTO)

430 Even if they come back w/a guilty verdict on 2 or 3 counts the judge will likely sentence him to time served.

Posted by: kallisto at August 16, 2018 08:06 PM (7v00c)

431 "all you need to acquit is just doubt the word of the admitted criminal Gates." I dunno. I read the indictment. There's a paper trail of shell companies and falsified loan apps, etc. By the law, the guy's probably guilty.

But it has nothing to do with Trump. Trump's name does NOT appear in the indictment.

Posted by: gp at August 16, 2018 08:47 PM (mk9aG)

432 And they're doing that just to Get Trump.

And that, sports fans, is the main point the Stupid Party should be hammering home! Sure Trump can say it, but how much more effective to have hundreds of elected members of Congress screaming it?!

Do they really think that if Trump loses the House or Senate, and Trillions in 401Ks go tits-up, we are going to just blame the Donkey-dicks? Noooo - we are going to come to DC, and they will all wish they were in a nicer place, like Venezuela!!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 16, 2018 09:07 PM (5hjW2)

433 Hung jury, more likely.

Posted by: Jane at August 16, 2018 09:12 PM (IoEGj)

434 I'll discharge ur stupid, I mean, student loan via bankruptcy, for a nominal consideration of course.

Posted by: Judge Blake "Big" Kahuna at August 16, 2018 09:25 PM (rpnTL)

435 I bet he will be acquitted.

Even if convicted, the trial has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with Trump. God the Left is so F-ing stupid.

Posted by: Braden Lynch at August 17, 2018 03:24 PM (SMr1v)

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