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Sunday Morning Book Thread 08-19-2018

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Rockingham Public Library, Bellows Falls, VT

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Oh, and we've got a new category of readers, escaped oafs and oafettes ('escaped oafs' is an anagram of 'Ace of Spades'). Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which I don't understand why anyone would want to wear. They don't look comfortable, they're ugly, and if you suddenly need to run, you'll be doing an instant faceplant.


Pic Note

This week's photo is courtesy of a lurking moron who spent most of his childhood hanging out in this library. This was back in the days when you had to look up stuff in massive card catalogs. More here, but the site navigation is somewhat cumbersome.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

To BRATTLE is to squander your money.

Usage: Is it a coincidence that Mary Cloggenstein lives in Brattleboro, VT?

Library - anime.jpg

(h/t to the moron who sent me this a long time ago, I forget exactly who it was, I'm guessing it was probably The Political Hat)



Looks Interesting

I discovered How to Survive an Active Shooter, 2nd Edition: What You do Before, During and After an Attack Could Save Your Life (Conversations) by Jacquelyn Lynn from a review posted on votermom's blog. It asks the question "Would you know what to do if someone started shooting?" It gives pointers on:

•What you should do when someone starts shooting

•What you can do if escape isn’t possible

•Why it’s dangerous to keep your cell phone with you

•What a kill box is and how to avoid being in one

•How to defend yourself against an active shooter

•Why playing dead can get you killed

•What weapons, other than firearms, attackers are using

•How to protect a house of worship

•What you should do before and after law enforcement arrives

The last item is a bit problematic. I've heard that during the Columbine shootings, the police stood around outside the school while the shooters blazed away. And we all know about the derelict sheriff's deputy at Parkland who thought sticking his head in the sand was the better part of valor. And of course, the answer is more gun control laws.

If I'm ever caught in one of these situations, I have to assume that law enforcement is not something I can count on to save me and my loved ones.

I understand that the Israelis teach that everybody needs to rush the shooter, even if no weapons are available. Because eventually the sheer weight of numbers will obstruct the shooter's progress.

Of course, the Israelis arm their school teachers, which undoubtedly helps.


Travel Books

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A lurking 'ette sent me this pic of books she took with her on a trip that involved a number of long flights. Along with her Kindle, she carried with her:

Island of Mad by Laurie King- liked the earlier ones better but this one was kind of fun since it was set in Venice and that is where I was headed.

The Word is Murder by Anthony Horowitz- better than expected since the author inserts himself into the story- I don't usually care for those kind of plots but this is done about as well as one can do those kind of things.

The War in the Dark- Nick Setchfield- nice moody historical fantasy with magic but characters did not ring true.

Lonely Planet Venice- solid historical summary and overview of major and minor attractions, but not great on shopping and eating recs.

first of the Lost Fleet by Jack Campbell- will be reading more of these- very sharp military scifi with engaging characters and plotting.

(And on her Kindle):

Young Trailers by Altsheler- loved these as a teenager and there are worse things a teenager could be reading now- strong male characters that value friendship and adventure but simplistic plots at times and awful dialogue.

Murder on the Oxford Canal by Martin- decent mystery setup for a series- will probably try a few more.


Moron Recommendation

Lurker Chuck e-mailed a couple of recommendations for WW I history:

Peter Englund’s “The Beauty and the Sorrow: An Intimate History of the First World War” is told through the eyes of twenty average men and women who participated in some way in the conflict. The perspectives are from all over the world, not just the Western Front. Very powerful.

Also Wade Davis’ “Into the Silence: The Great War, Mallory and the Conquest of Everest” about how the war affected the climbing expeditions of the 20s and 30s.

The Beauty and the Sorrow: An Intimate History of the First World War is available on Kindle for $14.99 (ouch), but you can buy the hardcover edition for 8.00.

The Amazon blurb describes Into the Silence: The Great War, Mallory, and the Conquest of Everest as

The definitive story of the British adventurers who survived the trenches of World War I and went on to risk their lives climbing Mount Everest.

The Kindle edition is $14.99, but used hardcover copies go for as low as $3.00.


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This week I finished The Hearts of Horses, by Molly Gloss, a look at the not-easy life of homesteaders in the 1917 Western U.S. -- an era not usually written about.

I recommended it for a maiden aunt just coming off a heart attack (she's 93) because I know she likes the Western genre and because it was "clean." Well, it was until the last 10 pages. Then the author felt compelled to wreck it with one stinking scene of "hot and bothered" characters. Ugh. Still recommended, but not for your genteel elderly aunt.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 12, 2018 09:08 AM (ihzOe)

This recommendation fit in well with the "books ruined by sex" theme I had going last week. Seems to me you can just tear out the last 10 pages before you give it to your elderly maiden aunt. The Amazon blurb calls this book an

...irresistible tale of nineteen-year-old Martha Lessen, a female horse whisperer trying to make a go of it in a man’s world. It was thought that the only way to break a horse was to buck the wild out of it, and broken ribs and tough falls just went with the job. But over several long, hard winter months, many of the townsfolk in this remote county of eastern Oregon witness Martha's way of talking in low, sweet tones to horses believed beyond repair—and getting miraculous, almost immediate results—and she thereby earns a place of respect in the community.

The Kindle edition of The Hearts of Horses is $9.99.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM




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1 Currently on a re-read of The Sea of Time series by Stirling.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:00 AM (mpXpK)

2 This week's photo is courtesy of a lurking moron who spent most of his
childhood hanging out in this library. This was back in the days when
you had to look up stuff in massive card catalogs. More here, but the site navigation is somewhat cumbersome.



I can remember looking for stuff in those massive card catalogs.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

3 Rockingham Public Library, Bellows Falls, VT
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Say, isn't that where George Bailey is from?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 09:03 AM (CDGwz)

4 Hiya !

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 09:03 AM (ieSH1)

5 Speaking of squandering... did so on a new 27" curved Samsung monitor.

Teh Horde looks so.... bigley.

Plus I don't need glasses, so there.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 19, 2018 09:04 AM (6qErC)

6 The only real way to protect citizens from shooters is concealed and open carry everywhere.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:04 AM (mpXpK)

7 Hello book threadists.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:04 AM (kQs4Y)

8 You know what was awesome about massive card catalogs and the Dewey decimal system? You could find stuff you weren't looking for.

Your book is at 902.11, great, so you go to the stacks and it's surrounded by books on similar topics. Find something obscure that you weren't looking for, cite it, impress your professor.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 09:05 AM (fuK7c)

9
I can remember looking for stuff in those massive card catalogs.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
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When those were being sold off, I bought one at auction. I now have a handsome oak small-parts 'cabinet', all carefully labeled. The drawers are just the right size for holding molded plastic bins.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 09:06 AM (CDGwz)

10 I read Mayflower: A Story of Courage, Community, and War by Nathaniel Philbrick, which was recommended here a few weeks ago. Philbrick not only tells the history of the Pilgrims, their voyage to a new land, and their hardships during their first year and the first Thanksgiving; but he also describes in great detail their more than fifty years of peace with the native tribes. He goes on to describe the breakdown of that peace in 1675 which led to fourteen months of war. Well-written and researched, I learned much from reading this book.

Posted by: Zoltan at August 19, 2018 09:06 AM (OZWZk)

11 I found a paperback copy of "The French Foreign Legion, A Complete History of the Legendary Fighting Force" by Douglas Porch during a recent trip to a used book store in my AO. Looks like it was printed in 1991.

I have read bits and pieces about the Legion here and there in my travels, but never a complete history.

Pretty thick and with pictures, 728 pages.

Gotta have pictures.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 09:08 AM (EoRCO)

12 Reading 'Horse Soldiers: The Extraordinary Story of a Band of U.S. Soldiers Who Rode to Victory in Afghanistan' by Doug Stanton. This book is about the deployment of the Green Berets of the 5th Special Forces Group to Northern Afghanistan shortly after the 9/11 attacks, the many difficulties getting there, and their joining forces with the Northern Alliance Warlords to defeat the Taliban/Al Qaeda.

For the first time in our history Special Forces/CIA would be the lead element in a ground war. Although superbly trained in the arts of war, diplomacy, and nation building, the Green Berets were lacking one important skill for battle in Afghanistan. Horseback riding. Because of the terrain horses were the main form of transport. When the first group joined their Afghan allies to ride into battle only one of the Green Berets had any horseback riding experiance. He gave a quick introduction to horsey control. 'Here's how you make this thing go.', and so forth.

'It's as if the Jetsons had met the Flintstones.' is how one Green Beret would later describe their joining the Afghans.

Here's some head music.

Berlioz - Symphony Fantastique
https://youtu.be/SCuKg6Dgc6I

Mo-Dettes - White Mice
https://youtu.be/E2_Ty6azw5I

Jimmy Buffett - Rancho Deluxe
https://youtu.be/qtJIRSWUOYg

Bluegrass Clog Dancing
https://youtu.be/cs2j8f7H2WY

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at August 19, 2018 09:10 AM (vpcGp)

13 Philbrick not only tells the history of the Pilgrims, their voyage to a new land, and their hardships during their first year...
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I've visited the 'Mayflower Steps' site at Plymouth. Like most historic sites, it's difficult to absorb the history that occurred there. One can try to envision and feel what the people were feeling at the time, but it just isn't possible.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 09:11 AM (CDGwz)

14
I converted a smallish 5,000 book library from card catalog to computer based. Toughest part was convincing the librarian to ditch the card catalog. There were four networked computers to look stuff at simultaneously vs. one card catalog.

No brainer for me. It took the librarian a couple years before it got ditched.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 09:12 AM (LOgQ4)

15 "8 You know what was awesome about massive card catalogs and the Dewey decimal system? You could find stuff you weren't looking for.

Your book is at 902.11, great, so you go to the stacks and it's surrounded by books on similar topics. Find something obscure that you weren't looking for, cite it, impress your professor.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 09:05 AM (fuK7c)"


This !
Loved finding stuff that way.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 19, 2018 09:13 AM (58Au8)

16 Finally finished David Hackett Fischer’s herniatic “Albion’s Seed”. It’s not a quick or easy read; it’s very rich in detailed information and you want to linger with brandy snifter and thin cheroot.

Interesting that the chronic debts of the Virginia planters (typically second and third sons of the elite back home) seemed to echo the continual debt-dodging of the country gentlemen in south and west of England. And it’s not just the vagaries of farming. Reading Thackeray and Bronte, it’s one long struggle to pay off gambling debts and bills owed to one’s inferiors. Mere tradesmen!

The Virginia colony was much more hierarchical than the New England colonies, yet also prized individual liberty more – at least for the right sort of people. It was the special birthright of freeborn Englishmen. “Men of high estate were thought to have more liberties than others of lesser rank. Servants possessed few liberties, and slaves none at all.

John Randolph of Roanoke summarized his ancestral creed in a sentence: “I am an aristocrat,” he declared, “I love liberty; I hate equality.” Even Englishmen noted how prideful the Southern colonists were about their liberty, more as a token of rank than as an appreciation of freedom.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:13 AM (kQs4Y)

17 I can't stay as I need to get to church, but I recently found out that my grandchildren's charter school is organized around the leadership principles found in "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People."


I've never read the book, but I suppose I should, just to see what they're doing with the little urchins' heads. I was frankly surprised to see that they had a narrowly-defined mission of developing leadership skills.



I wonder how the kindergartener will do with that. Yesterday he was pulling bullfrogs out of the pond. Not much call for that, probably.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 09:13 AM (lwiT4)

18 Tolle Lege
More than halfway in Patrick O'Brien Wine Dark Sea, need to finish Thomas Carlyle History of Frederick the Great so at least say I finished it.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 09:14 AM (lxZ71)

19 So I have a book gifted to me by a ginger midget which has taken me a while to get to what with being a physical book and me mostly reading Kindle lately.

It's "15.000 Jarhe Mord und Totschlag" (15,000 years of Murder and Manslaughter), which is an anthropological study of the remains of Krauts what have slaughtered each other over the epochs.

Well, I lost it. I'm pretty sure I lost it in a school building, so I called the school but they were gone so I left a message. My message was, "it should be easy to recognize. It will be the only book in the school that is in the German language and has a skull on the front".

And then I realized how that sounded.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 09:14 AM (fuK7c)

20 Working at 'Stalingrad', as recommended here. Finishing up 'Black Rednecks and White Liberals'. I mentioned the latter on the ONT last night. Should be required reading at all colleges/universities. Sowell brings it, as always.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 09:14 AM (CDGwz)

21 Recently read:

African Kaiser - It is about German East Africa, Paul von Lettow, and how he ran all over the place tying up Allied forces. This is a very good book and I highly recommend, although the author has a minor fascination with Lettow's sexual conquests or the lack of information thereof.

One of the best parts is Lettow is preparing an attack with his German, Askari (black Africans), and Arab forces. He sends away the Askari women (who always followed their husbands) and the Arab pretty boys (exactly what you think.) The Askari accept it, but the Arabs are upset, pathetically fire a couple of shots, and turn to run. The Askari slaughter them all. It brought a tear to my eye.

The Great War: A Combat History of WWI - Good overview of combat on the Western and Eastern fronts in WWI with a few of the other areas briefly covered. The problem is the author is British and has some serious bias at times. Ill fated attacks on the Western front were almost always the cause of having to save the French or political meddling. Otherwise, the British would have steamrolled the Germans with their superior tactics, numbers, and planning.

Noticeably, the author never discusses German East Africa where only the Armistice brought an end to the fighting and the Germans were beating far superior British forces.

The author has some good insights if you ignore the bias.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 19, 2018 09:16 AM (J70i0)

22 Good morning! This week I read Deeper Then the Good, five Tammy Hoag, about tracking a serial killer in the days before DNA, so phones and advanced for his age. It was pretty good, except for a little far-fetched.

Also read Simple Living, a minimalist guide. Interesting, but not sure I'm ready to let go of everything.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 19, 2018 09:18 AM (zSRRl)

23 "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People."

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2018 09:13 AM (lwiT4)

I worked for a company that used it. So, I had to take the course. It's innocuous except for talking about competition (which the company skipped.) It's basically how to organize your time and prioritize.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 19, 2018 09:19 AM (J70i0)

24 Grammie, the "Seven Habits" thing was big with management training years back. I recall it's less about leadership than it is about time management, specifically about allotting time to the things that are truly important, not merely pressing.

I think there was a "Seven Habits" book for kids, too. Maybe not Kindergarteners, but then, I wasn't a focused self-starter at that age, except for recess.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:19 AM (kQs4Y)

25 Good morning!

Yay books! Thought I'd delurk in the Book Thread to bring up a very good book coming out in a couple of months: On Desperate Ground, The Marines at The Reservoir, the Korean War's Greatest Battle.

I just finished a review copy of this book...read it twice, and afterwards I just HAD to go visit the USMC Museum in Quantico.

It's about everything that led up to the Marines at the Chosin Reservoir. The author has clearly framed all the issues at play, from the tactical to the mistakes made at the strategic and political level. It's a riveting read, and one that sheds some much-needed light on the Korean War and the accomplishments, experiences, and sacrifices of our veterans there.

Check it out when it's released.

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2018 09:21 AM (++G28)

26 16 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:13 AM (kQs4Y)



Let's not forget that his major point was the mistake people make in trying to apply "today's standards" to people in the distant past.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:22 AM (mpXpK)

27 Oh, I also recommend the WWI Museum in Kansas City.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 19, 2018 09:24 AM (J70i0)

28 In summary, the seven habits are:

Be Proactive
Begin with the End in Mind
Put First Things First
Think Win-Win
Seek First to Understand, Then to be Understood*
Synergize
Sharpen the Saw

Seems pretty much safe.
* could be used to leftist advantage. Listen to our side, now shut-up.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 09:26 AM (LOgQ4)

29 My employer hired Tom Bay to teach the Time Management class to everyone. He was great. I still have and use the Franklin Planner, mainly for the calender.

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 19, 2018 09:27 AM (3HNOQ)

30 Bellows Falls is often referred to as "Fellows Balls" by female students at the many colleges in that part of New England.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 19, 2018 09:30 AM (611Lm)

31 Good Sunday morning, horde!

@15: Libraries still use Dewey decimal system, so even though I'm looking up a book in the electronic card catalog, I still find similar books when I go to the shelf.

Sure would like to have one of those old card catalog cabinets, though.

Posted by: April at August 19, 2018 09:30 AM (e8PP1)

32 Hello, all! I'm going to an early mass today so not a lot of time to chat.

The big news this week is that my revised fantasy/historical miniatures rules are FINALLY getting published.

Or so I hope. I'm waiting for them to grind their way through the Amazon machinery. I hope to get them up this week and be done with thing.

Still reading "A Distant Mirror" which I'm enjoying less and less as Tuchman's editorializations get more and more off base. When she's confining herself to historical description and events, she's great, but then she starts doing the above-referenced thing of using contemporary standards as a point of comparison and it starts to suck.

It really makes the book seem dated because she's writing at a time when feminists argued that all women needed to succeed was a fair shot. No special treatment, just opportunity. Well, we all know how that ended.

She's also full of Protestant triumphalism regarding the Catholic Church's problems and the last two decades have shown that her smug WASP-ish perspective is pretty much bunk.

But other than that, it's not a bad narrative history. I plan on finishing it, though I'm no longer reading it with any urgency.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 09:31 AM (cfSRQ)

33 Regarding the Dewey Decimal System, our local library still employs it in their computerized system. It is fun to go and see what's nearby.

I spent much of my youth trolling the 940 series.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 09:33 AM (cfSRQ)

34 When I was a youngun' my town was fortunate enough to have had an Andrew Carnegie library. Sad day when it was razed to make way for a modern, architecturally soulless building. Many, many cool memories.

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 09:34 AM (LGXGf)

35 I've been reading "Girl Power: How Today's Young Women Can Do Anything and Rise to Any Challenge Unless Politely Challenged to Debate Ideas, In Which Case They Must Yell "Catcall!" and Run and Hide Under the Bed Until Daddy Makes the Big Bad Conservative Go Away" by Alexandra Occupational-Hazard.

I guess "It Takes a Village" was already taken.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 19, 2018 09:35 AM (Ndje9)

36 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:22 AM (mpXpK)

Yes, he's very good at contextualizing the story within the time, place, and culture of the colonists. I've called it a doorstop but only in jest. For being so dense with facts it is very readable.

I loved how the Border Folk -- what we would call Scots-Irish -- were poor but had a very high self regard and didn't seem to "know their place".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:35 AM (kQs4Y)

37 I still remember a Dilbert cartoon, when the competitors are reading the Dilbert company mission statement.

"Look! They're using synergy!"

Much laughter ensued.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 09:37 AM (S6Pax)

38 Reading "The Rose and the Crane" by Clint Dohman. An English nobleman and a Japanese Samurai (yes, you got that right) during the War of the Roses. The plot keeps me reading, but the deliberately anachronistic language and jokes make me want to hurl my Kindle through the window.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at August 19, 2018 09:37 AM (lApJ5)

39 This week, I've been reading Love and Death in the Sunshine State by Cutter Wood.

You think this author's name sounds pretentious? Dear sweet Jesus, it's nothing compared to his prose.

I was looking forward to a good true crime story, but it is an overwrought self-examination loosely arranged around a murder that happened where he used to go on vacation.

Probably won't finish it.

Posted by: April at August 19, 2018 09:38 AM (e8PP1)

40 34
When I was a youngun' my town was fortunate enough to have had an Andrew
Carnegie library. Sad day when it was razed to make way for a modern,
architecturally soulless building. Many, many cool memories.


Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 09:34 AM (LGXGf)


My original library was a Carnegie Library. Its still there but now a historical monument. Fond memories of that place. I used to pull a little wagon there and check out a large supply of books as a kid.






http://tinyurl.com/y7na6qdm

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:38 AM (mpXpK)

41 Good morning, Horde! It's been a good week for me, writing and reading both. I clocked up the word-count for the next Luna City book, and I'm about three-quarters done - just have to wrap up two of the braided story lines, and map out the finished book. I don't think I'll have it in time for the Giddings Word Wrangler Book Fest late in September, but we'll be there with all the other Luna City books.
Reading - I finally broke down and bought the fourth Otto Prohaska book: Tomorrow the World, because I wanted to read some more about what the old guy had been up to, before AND after WWI. Not much about the after, but the before was pretty interesting: an around-the-world-adventure on a rickety sailboat-with-coal-fired-auxiliary steam engine at the turn of the last century. Including a brutal and unsuccessful attempt to sail around the Horn, the southernmost tip of South America. Interesting to me, as I had a great-uncle who had actually been a sailor on a commercial sailing ship at that time, and made the voyage around the Horn four times. He was slightly gaga when I knew him as a child, but he had a pair of ladies in frilly skirts tattooed on his forearms who did the shimmy when he flexed his muscles. He once fell off the rigging, from a great height, but managed to catch a rope and save himself before he fell all the way - to the great relief of the ships' captain, who confessed that he was already rehearsing the burial service in his mind, as he watched Great-uncle fall.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at August 19, 2018 09:38 AM (xnmPy)

42 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading. I sure did.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 09:39 AM (V+03K)

43 Off to work in a bit, so, thought I'd drop this here:

I received one of those, "It must be true, because I read it on the internet" emails and, well, decided to see if the book referenced existed. Surprise! It does.

The email was entitled, "The Oil Patch Warriors of WWII."

The book the email referenced, "The Secret of Sherwood Forest: Oil Production in England During World War II" is available on Amazon but a bit pricey.

Anyway, I bit the bullet and ordered. I look forward to reading, reviewing and comparing the book to the email I received.

I must admit, I checked because I hoped the email received is accurate in its representation of facts and events.

If anyone is interested in the body of the email, let me know and I'll see if I can get it to one of the COB's.

Cheers!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 09:40 AM (WEBkv)

44 One of my travel books last week was the aforementioned "Have Space Suit -- Will Travel". Great little read.

I have noticed that Heinlein juveniles often show young people “This is how you deal with the assholes you will inevitably encounter in your careers”.

Be polite, be professional, but have a plan...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:42 AM (kQs4Y)

45 My original library was a Carnegie Library. Its still there but now a historical monument. Fond memories of that place. I used to pull a little wagon there and check out a large supply of books as a kid.


http://tinyurl.com/y7na6qdm
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:38 AM (mpXpK)

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My fondest memory was finally getting old enough to get my own library card.

Anyway, off to work.

Later!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 09:42 AM (WEBkv)

46 It's that time of year again. The 2019 Old Farmer's Almanac comes out Sept. 4. I've already preordered mine. A bit of annual fun. And, at least for my area, their winter and spring forecast was a lot better than the local news stations.

I don't get the World Book of Facts or similar every year. Not anymore. But I do pick one up every few years. Not as critical now that we have the internet but I don't trust electronic resources completely.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 09:44 AM (V+03K)

47 45 My fondest memory was finally getting old enough to get my own library card.



Anyway, off to work.



Later!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 09:42 AM (WEBkv)


I don't remember any age limit at our library. I do know though that my mom was a big tenant of the library and the librarians knew all of us.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:44 AM (mpXpK)

48 I read the first five of the "Lost Fleet" series and found them to be pretty good reads. The main character is a bit too angst-ridden for my tastes but Campbell actually takes into account that combat would occur in three-dimensional space.

These are essentually written as two separate series. The first series of five books covers the hero defeating the Syndic Worlds while the next series covers the war with the aliens that had been manipulating the humans in the first series.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 19, 2018 09:46 AM (5Yee7)

49 On the topic of ruined by sex, I was amused by the way Felix J. Palma handled a sex scene in The Map of Time, a time travel novel (more or less). One of the subplots concerns a lower class guy seducing an upper class girl by telling her a series of outrageous time travel lies. The narrator is an omniscient commenter on events who plays with time in relating the events. When the couple finally do it in a seedy hotel, the narrator gives them both privacy and time by describing the decor in the hallway outside the room until they're finished.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 09:46 AM (+y/Ru)

50 46
It's that time of year again. The 2019 Old Farmer's Almanac comes out
Sept. 4. I've already preordered mine. A bit of annual fun. And, at
least for my area, their winter and spring forecast was a lot better
than the local news stations.



I don't get the World Book of Facts or similar every year. Not
anymore. But I do pick one up every few years. Not as critical now that
we have the internet but I don't trust electronic resources completely.



Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 09:44 AM (V+03K)

I love that magazine and I get it every year. But it sure has become expensive now. I can remember when it was 50 cents.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:46 AM (mpXpK)

51 11 I found a paperback copy of "The French Foreign Legion, A Complete History of the Legendary Fighting Force" by Douglas Porch during a recent trip to a used book store in my AO. Looks like it was printed in 1991.

I have read bits and pieces about the Legion here and there in my travels, but never a complete history.

Pretty thick and with pictures, 728 pages.

Gotta have pictures.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 09:08 AM (EoRCO)

I read that a while ago, enjoyed it a lot. Porch is a good historian of the French colonial campaigns, I wish he would do one on the conquest of Indochina

Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2018 09:47 AM (Izzlo)

52 After the chatter about it here last week, I pulled by $0.25 copy of Clan of the Cave Bear off the shelf and gave it a try. After a hundred and fifty pages or so I've concluded that it is a origin story - Ayla apparently is the matriarch and ancestor of all Mary Sues.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 19, 2018 09:48 AM (bZ7mE)

53
My original library was a Carnegie Library. Its still there but now a
historical monument. Fond memories of that place. I used to pull a
little wagon there and check out a large supply of books as a kid.

Well, at least it's still there.

There was something about this place that inspired an awe-like sensation upon approaching it.
https://tinyurl.com/yb2s65wn

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 09:48 AM (LGXGf)

54 In a nearby town they built a new (and surprisingly compatible, architecturally) wing onto the old Carnegie library.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 19, 2018 09:48 AM (58Au8)

55 Since there is so much interest in WWI, I'll just mention this:

While it was announced this week that Trump had cancelled the military parade, which was ostensibly a celebration of the centenary of the ending of WWI, the National Park Service has yet to be officially informed of the cancellation. So maybe this is just a Trump negotiating strategy?

Posted by: biancaneve at August 19, 2018 09:49 AM (A/iod)

56 Part of the attraction of the Patrick O'Brian books is the cover art by Geoff Hunter. I got a separate book of his works, "The Marine Art of Geoff Hunt". Not only are these beautiful and exciting paintings, the book shows some of the sketches he makes on the way to finished works. Damn! The man is good. Hours of pleasant browsing.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 09:49 AM (V+03K)

57 I loved that little library, Vic! That's the kind that I had as a kid when we went "into town"; mine was a neat little white Victorian with books stuffed into small rooms, great for snuggling in with a good book on Greek mythology.

Now, towns seem to like these big modern monsters with open floor plans and lots of computers. Eh, progress, I guess.

Here's a list of Carnegie libraries. You can click on the state to find pictures of libraries in your town:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Carnegie_libraries_in_the_United_States

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:50 AM (kQs4Y)

58
The Sunday Morning Book Thread was never great.

Posted by: Andrew Cuomo at August 19, 2018 09:51 AM (LOgQ4)

59 Ayla apparently is the matriarch and ancestor of all Mary Sues.
Posted by: Grey Fox at August 19, 2018 09:48 AM (bZ7mE)
---

My sister read a few and chuckled over the florid sex scenes. "Oh dear, have you seen the author's picture on the back?"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:52 AM (kQs4Y)

60 test ¢

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:53 AM (mpXpK)

61 My fondest memory was finally getting old enough to get my own library card.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 19, 2018 09:42 AM (WEBkv)

===

My library card had a little metal plate attached to it the librarian would insert into the machine to check out books, like the credit card imprint machines that were the height of modern technology at the time.

When I turned 12, they gave me a card of a different color and finally, finally let me in to the adult side. It was not as classy or luxurious as I had imagined.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 19, 2018 09:54 AM (EZebt)

62 53 There was something about this place that inspired an awe-like sensation upon approaching it.
https://tinyurl.com/yb2s65wn

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 09:48 AM (LGXGf)

That looks even older than our old one.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:55 AM (mpXpK)

63 25 Good morning!

Yay books! Thought I'd delurk in the Book Thread to bring up a very good book coming out in a couple of months: On Desperate Ground, The Marines at The Reservoir, the Korean War's Greatest Battle.

I just finished a review copy of this book...read it twice, and afterwards I just HAD to go visit the USMC Museum in Quantico.

It's about everything that led up to the Marines at the Chosin Reservoir. The author has clearly framed all the issues at play, from the tactical to the mistakes made at the strategic and political level. It's a riveting read, and one that sheds some much-needed light on the Korean War and the accomplishments, experiences, and sacrifices of our veterans there.

Check it out when it's released.
Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 19, 2018 09:21 AM (++G2

I just finished up "Inchon: MacAurthur's Last Triumph" by Michael Langley, 1979. It was a good minute-to-minute account of the landing & drive to Seoul, and the author makes no apologies for his hatred of Communism.

Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2018 09:55 AM (Izzlo)

64 Ok, I've done my Duty for G-D, Country, and the Wife. I am free the rest of the day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2018 09:55 AM (Ydx5u)

65 Nevergiveup at August 19, 2018 09:55 AM (Ydx5u)

===

She Who Must Be Obeyed may say differently...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 19, 2018 09:58 AM (EZebt)

66 57
I loved that little library, Vic! That's the kind that I had as a kid
when we went "into town"; mine was a neat little white Victorian with
books stuffed into small rooms, great for snuggling in with a good book
on Greek mythology.



Now, towns seem to like these big modern monsters with open floor plans and lots of computers. Eh, progress, I guess.



Here's a list of Carnegie libraries. You can click on the state to find pictures of libraries in your town:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Carnegie_libraries_in_the_United_States



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 09:50 AM (kQs4Y)

Thanks to my mom and that library to this day I read two or three books a week now since I have retired.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:58 AM (mpXpK)

67 The Sunday Morning Book Thread was never great.
Posted by: Andrew Cuomo


Andrew Cuomo has a small penis, and was never great, or even mediocre. - Cuomo's wife

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 09:58 AM (S6Pax)

68 Yay book thread!

I actually read How to Survive an Active Shooter a month or so ago.
Slim book but practical.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 09:59 AM (CE6iV)

69 61 My library card had a little metal plate attached to
it the librarian would insert into the machine to check out books, like
the credit card imprint machines that were the height of modern
technology at the time.



When I turned 12, they gave me a card of a different color and
finally, finally let me in to the adult side. It was not as classy or
luxurious as I had imagined.



Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 19, 2018 09:54 AM (EZebt)

My original card had the same.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 09:59 AM (mpXpK)

70 Nice. I just checked an my first library is still a going concern and still unadulterated.

https://bit.ly/2PltaZa

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 09:59 AM (fuK7c)

71 For those who enjoy the Patrick O'Brian books, Hornblower series and similar, I've got a couple of suggestions.

The first is Dean King's "A Sea of Words". Skip has mentioned this before. It's basically a dictionary of nautical terms and places in the Aubrey novels. Helpful and just plain fun to read.


The second is "A Sailor's Word-Book" by Admiral W. Smyth. This was published in 1867 when the Admiral was in his seventies. His service went back to the Napoleonic wars in the Royal Navy. It is great for browsing and for Smyth's Victorian era, courtly vocabulary and style.(I love his use of the word 'vaunt' to mean something between a boast and a postive statement.) He also covers a lot of Celtic and even Old English terms that were archaic in his own day and are almost unknown now. If you were, or are, the type to read dictionaries (I raise my hand) this is delightful and useful. I happen to have a nice hardbound copy but there is a free Kindle version available as well.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:04 AM (V+03K)

72 Well lookey here! Wanted to see if the little library in my home town was a Carnegie library, and this is what I found:

"The Belmar Public Library as it now stands was opened to the public on December 4, 1914. The building is Colonial in style and Edward Tilton of New York was the architect. The plans for the Library were thought to be so excellent by the Carnegie Corporation that they adopted them as the standard for future libraries all over the Country.

In 1935 a portrait of Andrew Carnegie was presented to the Library by the Carnegie Corporation. It is a copy of the portrait painted by Luis Mora. One was given to each of the Carnegie Libraries in the Centennial."

Posted by: IrishEi at August 19, 2018 10:05 AM (Ri0Ku)

73 Our county has closed our libraries to punish the citizens for opposing a property tax increase. They wont cut other services though , like support for the Tubman Museum and the Sports Hall of Fame.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:05 AM (3fR/s)

74 40 our local library is still in the original Andrew Carnegie building, with remodels and expansions over the years.
I like it a lot.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 10:06 AM (CE6iV)

75 'Morning, psocopterans.

I just finished Daughters of the Night. It's about a regiment of female pilots in Russia during WWII. They flew only at night, bombed the Germans continually and came to be known as the "Night Witches".

It was a good story, well written and researched, and contained only one mild sex scene. I figured that was okay, since she married the guy.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 10:07 AM (atTnz)

76 I'm sitting at Spence Field in S Ga waiting for the Autocross to start so I can drive around like a freaked out maniac without getting arrested.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:07 AM (3fR/s)

77 When I turned 12, they gave me a card of a different color and finally, finally let me in to the adult side. It was not as classy or luxurious as I had imagined.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 19, 2018 09:54 AM (EZebt)


A book that I am going to give my 12 year old grandson is The Soldier by Richard Humble and illustrated by Richard Scollins. Published in 1986, it covers the evolution of soldier from ancient Egypt to the Falkland Islands War. The illustrations are nice although some of the grey-scale pictures are a bit muddy -- Scollins usually chose to portray soldiers "in the field" so they tend to be muddy, ragged and unshaven.

A useful primer for those unfamiliar with the subject with lots of tidbits of information and I was about that age when I got my first military history book. I looked at the bibliography and it was all Osprey Men At Arms titles that I already own.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 19, 2018 10:08 AM (5Yee7)

78 Just got done with Snow Crash by Neal Stephensen, it was a .99 special on Kindle.

Typical Stephensen - dense, wordy, cyberpunk, evocative. Ending felt abrupt and rushed. Some things that happened (late) made no sense and were only lightly explained in the story. Ominous things happened to characters and then later they were fine like nothing happened. Main bad guy killed by deux ex machina, and relationship of that to one of the main characters was just a little too cute to be believable and set up with an obvious Chekov's gun.

Otherwise an engaging study on the idea that language is human software and our minds are subject to viruses that can "crash" our minds.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 19, 2018 10:09 AM (cvabZ)

79 I'm halfway through T. R. Fehrenbach's "Lone Star," a history of Texas from the ice age up to about its publish date of 1968.

Had no idea before reading it what a large portion of its people (in antebellum years) were black slaves. It occurred to me that those same numbers existed in SC, GA, AL, MS, LA, and, to a lesser degree, the rest of the slave states.

He really disses the Mexicans. The Anglo Texans hated the Mexicans for a variety of reasons, one being the Alamo slaughter. But his facts didn't lie to him. He points out that in early Texas, from S.A. south to the Rio Grande, while the population was hugely Mexican, the whites were the ones to own and develop the big ranching ops, organize and run government, start and grow business, manage security, and more. He makes the case that neither the pure-indian Mexicans, nor the mestizo Mexicans with some Spanish blood, had no sense of what it took to create what Texas was becoming.

He wasn't wrong. Contrast Texas today with Mexico, or Guatemala, or Salvador, or Nicaragua.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at August 19, 2018 10:10 AM (+dG9b)

80 Re: Travel Books
In the 80s I took several weeks of vacation and flew to Australia. A gal friend gave me the 'Illuminatus Trilogy' books to read on the long flight. I enjoyed all 3 and they made the flight fly by quickly.

Shortly after I got back she gave me 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.' I guess she thought I'd enjoy it like the Trilogy books. I might have, but I must have slept while reading it because the only thing I remember about it was the author kept yapping about 'Quality.'

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at August 19, 2018 10:10 AM (vpcGp)

81 They wont cut other services though , like
support for the Tubman Museum and the Sports Hall of Fame.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:05 AM (3fR/s)
Priorities, comrade, priorities. Bread and circuses, yes. Intellectual pursuits, not so much. They can be dangerous.

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 10:10 AM (LGXGf)

82 Autocross to start"

Ah yes. Parking lot racing, with speeds up to 50...

Kph.

Snort

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 19, 2018 10:10 AM (6qErC)

83 50 ... "I love that magazine and I get it every year. But it sure has become expensive now. I can remember when it was 50 cents."

Hi Vic: Yeah, I remember those four bit copies also. It has been a while. I also recall what an hourly wage was back then. No math on the threads but I wonder if the 50 cent edition was more costly in 1960 versus wages.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:11 AM (V+03K)

84 Daniel Yergin's The Prize is one of the better non-fiction books I've read. It's a history of the oil industry but serves as a history of most of the 20th Century. Peak Oil is a recurring theme. I just ordered his follow-up, The Quest.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 10:11 AM (1UZdv)

85 If you were, or are, the type to read dictionaries (I raise my hand) this is delightful and useful. ...
Posted by: JTB


https://www.amazon.com/Byrnes-Dictionary-Unusual-Obscure-Preposterous/dp/1559722339

Posted by: Adriane the History Critic ... at August 19, 2018 10:12 AM (AoK0a)

86 I grew up in a Carnegie library. That building was more solid than a bank. It's still there, I see, though they made a run at closing it a few years ago. It's on the NRHP now, so maybe it's safe.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 10:12 AM (atTnz)

87 I happen to have a nice hardbound copy but there is a free Kindle version available as well.


Kindle offered it to me for $9.95 or $7.95. Do you have the magic search phrase that turns up the free volume?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:13 AM (fuK7c)

88 70
Nice. I just checked an my first library is still a going concern and still unadulterated.



https://bit.ly/2PltaZa

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 09:59 AM (fuK7c)


This is newer library at home. It is a lot bigger but it has no soul.
http://tinyurl.com/y8vpm5sk

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:14 AM (mpXpK)

89 I read that a while ago, enjoyed it a lot. Porch is a good historian of the French colonial campaigns, I wish he would do one on the conquest of Indochina
Posted by: josephistan at August 19, 2018 09:47 AM (Izzlo)

Nice! Thanks for the input Jstan!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 10:14 AM (EoRCO)

90 This is newer library at home. It is a lot bigger but it has no soul.
http://tinyurl.com/y8vpm5sk

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party



Well, if the book business doesn't work out they can make it a Motel 6.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:17 AM (fuK7c)

91 Just got done with Snow Crash by Neal Stephensen, it was a .99 special on Kindle.

Typical Stephensen
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 19, 2018 10:09 AM (cvabZ)


Yep. Most interesting characters are wholly undeveloped and barely mentioned except as foils or mentors to the (HURRR!) Protagonist. Central theme is based on a reasonable premise taken to ridiculous, implausible extremes. Entire chapters are "you will never hear about this event for the rest of the book even though it would make a better story in every way". Others are "I read about this in a magazine once and don't quite understand it, but here's what it would be like if it changed the world". Climax/denouement are slapped together frantically as the narrative is mere pages away from colliding with the back cover at warp five (the wreckage will be called the "ending").

It's one of my top ten favorite books, easily.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:18 AM (y87Qq)

92 The Carnegie Library where I grew up had a small theatre in it. It is closed now because the liberal assholes who ran the foundation blew through all the money.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 19, 2018 10:19 AM (89T5c)

93 The library in my hometown was in an old Victorian house until about 2002, when they built a larger, modern one. They did a good job with the new library-it's open without echoing and has a couple of conference rooms for local organizations to meet- but I still miss the old one. The childrens' section was in the basement, and it was a treat to be allowed up to the adults' section (I was in the single- and early double-digits, and didn't like the kids my age; anything to do with being an adult was cool)

Posted by: right wing yankee at August 19, 2018 10:19 AM (zlzYb)

94 3 Mike Hammer I think that was Bedford Falls.

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 10:19 AM (jmIQu)

95 Just saw Alpha. Quite good for a little picture. Kids 10 and up should love it.

It's about the start of the greatest partnership in the history of the World = Man and Dog.

Igno-Daughter figured out the star right off. She's a Czech Wolf Dog, a new hybrid breed that's mostly German Shepherd but which looks more like a wolf.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 10:21 AM (1UZdv)

96 83
50 ... "I love that magazine and I get it every year. But it sure has
become expensive now. I can remember when it was 50 cents."



Hi Vic: Yeah, I remember those four bit copies also. It has been a
while. I also recall what an hourly wage was back then. No math on the
threads but I wonder if the 50 cent edition was more costly in 1960
versus wages.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:11 AM (V+03K)


.50 cents in 1960 according to the government numbers would be $12.63 now. Amazing what monetizing the debt will do. So I recon it is half price now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:21 AM (mpXpK)

97 I finished reading Mother of God: A History of the Virgin Mary. Apparently, the gist of the book is that shortly after Christianity became a powerful political force in the eastern Roman Empire, and eventually beyond, smart political leaders and kings *including popes* used Mary as a propaganda tool to further their grip on power by claiming that the Queen of Heaven favored them and protected them. Also, the logic being that every good Jewish boy wants to please his mother.

Posted by: jmel at August 19, 2018 10:21 AM (OeWgo)

98
Just how evil is Facebook?

A HUD news release Friday said that Facebook's tools, while not explicitly mentioning race, disabilities or family size, allow all of that and more for advertisers interested in targeting certain groups while excluding others from housing offers. Such groups included people interested in "assistance dog," "mobility scooter" or "deaf culture." The advertising tools also allowed offers to exclude people interested in "child care" or "parenting," or to target people based on their stated interest in Christianity, Hinduism or the Bible. Ads could also be tailored based on user zip codes, the HUD release said.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 10:21 AM (LOgQ4)

99 90 Well, if the book business doesn't work out they can make it a Motel 6.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:17 AM (fuK7c)

LMAO

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:23 AM (mpXpK)

100 Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:18 AM (y87Qq)

Yes. You could see the sloppy knots as the ending tried to tie it all together.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 19, 2018 10:23 AM (cvabZ)

101 This is newer library at home. It is a lot bigger but it has no soul.
http://tinyurl.com/y8vpm5sk
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:14 AM (mpXpK)


The library in the city where I lived until middle school is about as generic as it gets. About all you can say about the architecture is: it's a box you can put books in.

http://lawrencefreelibrary.org/234/About-Us

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:25 AM (y87Qq)

102 currently reading Strong Medicine by Blake F. Donaldson, published 1961
it's out of print but available free online at several carnivore websites, including this one

https://preview.tinyurl.com/o28zgsm

Donaldson was a doctor who started practicing in WWIin the army, then went into private practice in NYC

He writes about curing a lot of patients with his "primitive food" regimen , which was basically keto:

30 min walk before breakfast
3 meals of a big slab of fatty meat and a small plain potato
demitasse black coffee

only water between meals
no water after 5 pm

Anyway, it's actually an interesting read because it's semi-memoir, and he talks about WWI, various cases, etc and he has a great sense of humor

It's also an interesting look into attitudes of the era - smoking, heredity, women, etc

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 10:25 AM (CE6iV)

103 Mike Hammer I think that was Bedford Falls.

Posted by: kallisto


At least it wasn't Niagra Falls

"Slooooooowly I turned....

Step by step........"

Posted by: JT at August 19, 2018 10:26 AM (ieSH1)

104 Our county has closed our libraries to punish the citizens for opposing a property tax increase. They wont cut other services though , like support for the Tubman Museum and the Sports Hall of Fame.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:05 AM (3fR/s)


Got to protect the most essential services, above all gold-plated government worker pensions and benefits.

Posted by: SEIU Local 1985 at August 19, 2018 10:27 AM (UGKMd)

105 I don't listen to audio books very often but Gary Sinise reading "Travels With Charley" was so good I try them once in a while. Came across two winners this week.

One was The Hobbit narrated by Rob Inglis. This isn't one of those over-produced BBC versions with multiple cast and sound effects that often obscure the words. This is just Inglis reading the book. His diction is clear, he does different voices for each character, and even sings the songs, sort of. It is easy to imagine Tolkien reading the book to small children with that playful approach he could employ. Inglis did the LOTR as well. I'm curious how good those are since they aren't as 'playful'.


I started reading Shaara's "The Killer Angels", which is excellent. I didn't realize how much of the dialogue in the movie "Gettysburg" came right out of the book. The audiobook is very good so far. Nothing fancy, like above just clear diction and use of accents for the major characters. I'm enjoying it and I'm surprised at the emotional aspects the narrator brings out.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:28 AM (V+03K)

106 104
Our county has closed our libraries to punish the citizens for
opposing a property tax increase. They wont cut other services though ,
like support for the Tubman Museum and the Sports Hall of Fame.



Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:05 AM (3fR/s)



Got to protect the most essential services, above all gold-plated government worker pensions and benefits.

Posted by: SEIU Local 1985 at August 19, 2018 10:27 AM (UGKMd)

The librarians are public workers as well, but I guess they are educated and not as apt to vote for communist democrats.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:29 AM (mpXpK)

107 The library in the city where I lived until middle school is about as generic as it gets.


The image flips back and forth between two buildings. One is almost brutalist concrete and glass, the other has Golden Age echos, with arched windows and some crenelation around the roof line.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:29 AM (fuK7c)

108 Hope you PNW 'Rons and 'Ettes didn't miss this one yesterday:
https://www.animalhousetoga.com/
The 40th anniversary of Animal House celebration.

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 10:30 AM (yzxic)

109 49 On the topic of ruined by sex, I was amused by the way Felix J. Palma handled a sex scene in The Map of Time, a time travel novel (more or less)...When the couple finally do it in a seedy hotel, the narrator gives them both privacy and time by describing the decor in the hallway outside the room until they're finished.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 09:46 AM (+y/Ru)


See, that's the way you do it. No need for a bunch of description, everybody knows what's going behind the closed doors.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 10:33 AM (co6jd)

110 I like that photo of the Vermont library. It looks ike a newer version of the one I haunted as a kid. I loved that place. And I miss the card catalog. It was huge, full of mystery for children, and a beautiful, solid piece of furntiure.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:33 AM (V+03K)

111 Respict we much!

Posted by: Al Sharpton at August 19, 2018 10:34 AM (5zO3p)

112 Just how evil is Facebook?

A HUD news release Friday said that Facebook's tools, while not explicitly mentioning race, disabilities or family size, allow all of that and more for advertisers interested in targeting certain groups while excluding others from housing offers. Such groups included people interested in "assistance dog," "mobility scooter" or "deaf culture." The advertising tools also allowed offers to exclude people interested in "child care" or "parenting," or to target people based on their stated interest in Christianity, Hinduism or the Bible. Ads could also be tailored based on user zip codes, the HUD release said.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 10:21 AM (LOgQ4)


What about "height"? Seriously, I don't see why this is wrong. Freedom of association and all that.

Posted by: Randy Newman at August 19, 2018 10:34 AM (/qEW2)

113 His diction is clear, he does different voices for each character, and even sings the songs, sort of. It is easy to imagine Tolkien reading the book to small children with that playful approach he could employ.


One of the absolute joys of parenting for me was reading the Harry Potter books aloud to my boys. To Rowling's credit, she wrote the characters with distinct enough voices that it was possible to have a voice for each character.

(I used Churchill for Dumbledore).

The boys are from the only generation that will ever know what it's like to wait until next year when the next book comes out.

Of course, growing up over that stretch they became independent readers so I didn't read the later books aloud to them, but I loved getting started that way.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:34 AM (fuK7c)

114 Got to protect the most essential services, above all gold-plated government worker pensions and benefits.
Posted by: SEIU Local 1985 at August 19, 2018 10:27 AM (UGKMd)


To be honest, there are a number of judges that said those obligations are priority.
No word on whether the judges have those pensions too.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 10:35 AM (2K6fY)

115 The librarians are public workers as well, but I guess they are educated and not as apt to vote for communist democrats.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:29 AM (mpXpK)
Our staff librarians recently decide to collectively bargain under the SEIU. Several days ago they all wore their SEIU t-shirts and I, as a tax-payer, felt like I was really having it shoved in my face. Before our country's fundamental transformation I never doubted our staff's devotion to non-censorship. Let me just say that I no longer feel that way about. Hate-speak and bad-thought are very, very bad and must be eliminated.

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 10:36 AM (LGXGf)

116 The image flips back and forth between two buildings.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:29 AM (fuK7c)


We never went to the second one (south branch). The only one I have any memories of (downtown @ Lawrence & Haverhill) was the one that looks like it could have been dropped out of the sky onto any college campus in the past sixty years or so (the steel-and-glass one).

They had a summer class series there that was fun. I remember photography and cooking. I think mom still has the cookbook from that.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:37 AM (y87Qq)

117 RParking lot racing, with speeds up to 50...'

We're at an airport so the course is pretty open. Definitely over 50. There are some serious cars here. We will has blasts.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:37 AM (3fR/s)

118 >>But other than that, it's not a bad narrative history. I plan on finishing it, though I'm no longer reading it with any urgency.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 09:31 AM (cfSRQ)

Completely agree. "Distant Mirror" was not what I hoped it would be.Too tendentious. There's a whole other way of looking at that century, but she seems unaware of it.

Posted by: Caliban at August 19, 2018 10:38 AM (QE8X6)

119 I wonder how many urban libraries are used primarily for loaning out books anymore. I think it's more about free workstation use and giving seminars to illegals and hood rats about how to game the system.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 10:39 AM (/qEW2)

120 Got to protect the most essential services, above all gold-plated government worker pensions and benefits.
Posted by: SEIU Local 1985 at August 19, 2018 10:27 AM (UGKMd)
The librarians are public workers as well, but I guess they are educated and not as apt to vote for communist democrats.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:29 AM (mpXpK)


Right. Ever time the local citizenry gets uppity and passes a tax reduction or limitation initiative, the government gets pissy and cuts the most visible services, like police, fire, library, and parks. All under the excuse "well, we can't afford these things any more because *you* people voted to reduce our endless money supply that is ours by natural right."

But the bureaucrats earning 6-digit salaries don't have to worry, their jobs are always safe.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 10:39 AM (co6jd)

121 Trump has a Nixonian enemies list, screams MSM, who are in danger of losing their clearances, to join Brennan: James Clapper, James Comey, Michael Hayden, Sally Yates, Susan Rice, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and Bruce Ohr.

Hmmm. I see a cabal. It's like Murder on the Orient Express. They all put a knife in Framed Flynn's back.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 10:40 AM (1UZdv)

122 93 year old maiden aunt...

Yeah, no. I would not recommend ripping out pages of a book, due to steamy sex. I believe in treating older people like adults. I'm sure she knows what sex is, and if... IF I am going to give someone a book to read, which I probably would just about never do, I would leave it to them to decide what is and is not appropriate for their delicate eyeballs.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2018 10:41 AM (cY3LT)

123 Our county couldn't even get employees to contribute 4 percent to their pensions to get the budget to balance so now they are having to take furlough days and are bitching about that.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2018 10:41 AM (3fR/s)

124 OM, thanks for the rec on "How to Survive and Active Shooter". Downloaded from B and N. I'm thinking this should be required reading for everyone.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 10:42 AM (atTnz)

125 *sigh* and = an

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 10:42 AM (atTnz)

126 I do love my hometown's new library though. It's huge, has a terrific selection of books, lots of comfy chairs, and gardens and sculpture outside. Their annual book sale is epic.

I noted from the "events" listing that they will be hosting a Nerf War after hours.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 10:42 AM (kQs4Y)

127 word power ... "Trump's pugnacity has served his country well" David Horowitz tweeted.

To me pugnacious is too negative for Trump. It is TheNarrative used to frame Trump as an ego driven jerk, but maybe useful for our time.

Trump knew the shit storm coming his way when he took on the biggest crime organization in history. (essentially what he did, and he did not skewer his opponents because he is "pugnacious") No media would cover him favorably, so he had to skewer every traitor and swindler he was running against. The VDH video KT linked yesterday explains that pretty well, where Hanson covers "the mythologies of the election".

https://youtu.be/4YtzgA310t0?t=323

Trump is audacious, or bodacious even.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 10:43 AM (bT8Z4)

128 One was The Hobbit narrated by Rob Inglis.
Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:28 AM (V+03K)


Had to go back and make sure you were on last week's thread like I'd thought. It would have been an amazing coincidence otherwise. And yes, that recording is everything an audiobook should be and nothing it shouldn't.

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=376445

It's also an interesting look into attitudes of the era - smoking, heredity, women, etc
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 10:25 AM (CE6iV)


I'm going way out on a limb here and taking a position in favor of all three.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:43 AM (y87Qq)

129 Strozk was fired . How is losing clearance NOT part of that package?

Posted by: Gem at August 19, 2018 10:44 AM (XoAz8)

130 I finished reading through all my open book thread tabs.

Soon I'll look to find first Lost Fleet book and finally start reading it.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at August 19, 2018 10:46 AM (CuFV9)

131 "I started reading Shaara's "The Killer Angels", which is excellent."

Yes. Excellent description of how the Battle of Gettysburg was unplanned, but escalated as a fight for the high ground, moral and otherwise.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 10:46 AM (1UZdv)

132 Just how evil is Facebook?

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I see in the sidebar that Cap'n Billy is fact checking for Facebutt. That ought to be good. Facebutt: "Trump is a doodyhead!" Cap'n Billy: "Pure D truth!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 10:46 AM (2udiA)

133 A minor detail. I recently got some heavy weight 3x5 index cards. They are at least three times the weight and thickness of the usual index card these days. I got them for doing small sketches since they will hold up to erasing and even watercolor washes. They are archival and acid free. I have my share of older books and new ones with good quality paper that could be damaged by lousy bookmarks. I'm using some of these good cards as bookmarks since they won't discolor the book pages. I may be overly concerned but after a book has survived a century or more in decent condition it deserves coddling.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 10:47 AM (V+03K)

134 #123
Yeah, somehow the whole idea of Civil Service has been flipped 180 degrees. Onward!!!!

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 10:47 AM (LGXGf)

135 Strozk was fired .
Posted by: Gem at August 19, 2018 10:44 AM (XoAz8 )


That would be a great action-movie line.

"You've been Strozk from the register... and sold for scrap" *pushes him into industrial shredder*

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:48 AM (y87Qq)

136 121. Is the FNM losing its clout? What is the effect of 300 newspapers editorializing against Trump, except to expose themselves as willing tools of DS.

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 10:49 AM (jmIQu)

137 120 Right. Ever time the local citizenry gets uppity and
passes a tax reduction or limitation initiative, the government gets
pissy and cuts the most visible services, like police, fire, library,
and parks. All under the excuse "well, we can't afford these things any
more because *you* people voted to reduce our endless money supply that
is ours by natural right."

But the bureaucrats earning 6-digit salaries don't have to worry, their jobs are always safe.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 10:39 AM (co6jd)

Right you wouldn't think so here in small Southern town but it is the same here.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:49 AM (mpXpK)

138 One of the absolute joys of parenting for me was reading the Harry Potter books aloud to my boys. To Rowling's credit, she wrote the characters with distinct enough voices that it was possible to have a voice for each character.

The boys are from the only generation that will ever know what it's like to wait until next year when the next book comes out.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:34 AM (fuK7c)
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Did you ever listen to any of the books on audio? We did, on long car rides, and Jim Dale did an EXCELLENT job with different voices for each character and keeping them consistent through all the books.

And I know exactly what you mean - my kids waited impatiently for each new one to come out. I know people here laugh at us for liking them but I was always happy to read them too. Many, many fond memories with my kids.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 10:50 AM (JJZzu)

139 Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 10:25 AM (CE6iV)

I'm going way out on a limb here and taking a position in favor of all three.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:43 AM (y87Qq)


In favor of... smoking, heredity and women?

Well I'm for two of the three.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 19, 2018 10:50 AM (cY3LT)

140 Woot! Just made it through Vol 1 of Stalin by Kotkin and now into Vol 2. The pages are not flying by, as Professor Kotkin has claimed (many times in his videos), but that's because I explore his footnotes which often have interesting tidbits and wiki many characters and thus wind up on side excursions.

A wild one was Yakov Blumkin (Blyumkin). This guy was a somewhere between a Russian James Bond and someone Kipling would have conjured up. He had the dubious honor of being the one of the first Communist party members executed by the Soviet regime for a political crime (aiding Trotsky).

BTW - Very happy with my Fire HD10 - combining music with reading.

Posted by: jdwill at August 19, 2018 10:52 AM (EEqRQ)

141 "Just made it through Vol 1 of Stalin by Kotkin"

Just got it from Amazon based on a recommendation here.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 10:54 AM (1UZdv)

142 Did you ever listen to any of the books on audio? We did, on long car rides, and Jim Dale did an EXCELLENT job with different voices for each character and keeping them consistent through all the books.


I'm sure that is a lovely memory for you. My ex started playing the audio tapes for the boys and I was pissed. I'm doing the reading here, I don't want it corrupted by something you just bought off the shelf.

I can be ornery.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:54 AM (fuK7c)

143 I would like to read Greg Jarrett's book about the Russia Hoax. Well sourced, 700 footnotes.

Posted by: kallisto at August 19, 2018 10:55 AM (jmIQu)

144 ------------



When those were being sold off, I bought one at auction. I now have a
handsome oak small-parts 'cabinet', all carefully labeled. The drawers
are just the right size for holding molded plastic bins.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2018 09:06 AM (CDGwz)
-------------------------------------------------------My wife and I bought some at a school surplus sale several years ago. I use my set (five drawers wide by three tall) to hold stamps that I've soaked and sorted but not yet mounted in the albums. They are perfect for the size of glassines I store the stamps in.

Posted by: Three and One at August 19, 2018 10:55 AM (31Dqk)

145 I'm going way out on a limb here and taking a position in favor of all three.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 10:43 AM (y87Qq)

LOL

He considered smoking a harmless vice
He suspects certain inherited physical characteristics correlated to soldiers freezing (failing to fire) in the field
The women thing is just some traditional un-PC stuff

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 10:56 AM (CE6iV)

146 http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=376579#c29318688

It's definitely worth it. Very good for setting the world history stage and then bringing Stalin into focus upon it.

Posted by: jdwill at August 19, 2018 10:57 AM (EEqRQ)

147 LOL, Bander, that's okay. I hasten to add that the audio books (which we got from the library) did not replace the initial reading of any of the books.

We took cross-country car trips for a few years, and I would always bring along a tote bag full of books on tape/CD to soothe the savage beasts. Some were just for fun, some were historical.

I also always had one going in the car for all the inevitable trips on a daily basis where I had to haul along everyone because no one was old enough to stay home alone. It was amazing how quiet they would be if they were listening to a book.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 10:57 AM (JJZzu)

148 There was a Catnegie library in this town. They've turned it into a museum. I used to go to the old libarary a lot. They moved it to a new building. Sparse shelves, with a large computer room and another room that seems to be devoted to kids playing video games. I hardly ever go to it. I hope when we mive, that the new place has an old style library.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 19, 2018 11:01 AM (Lqy/e)

149 124 OM, thanks for the rec on "How to Survive and Active Shooter". Downloaded from B and N. I'm thinking this should be required reading for everyone.
Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 10:42 AM (atTnz)


I thought the same thing at first, but how good is this advice universally?


The boys are from the only generation that will ever know what it's like to wait until next year when the next book comes out.

Of course, growing up over that stretch they became independent readers so I didn't read the later books aloud to them, but I loved getting started that way.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 10:34 AM (fuK7c)


We read the first three to my daughter and did all the voices. Great memories. But I have an awesome picture of her curled up in a chair at a hair salon getting an up-do (because she was a flower girl in a wedding) reading Goblet of Fire, and one of the beauticians laughing and saying the book was almost as big as she was. Second grade, I think.

My son had them read to him by Jim Dale.

I feel a little guilty now.

Posted by: Gem at August 19, 2018 11:01 AM (XoAz8)

150 Al Sharpton Messes Up Spelling Of Legendary Aretha Franklin Song: 'R-E-S-P-I-C-T'

Sock it to me!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 11:03 AM (2udiA)

151 He suspects certain inherited physical characteristics correlated to soldiers freezing (failing to fire) in the field

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 10:56 AM (CE6iV)


I think the post-WWII consensus is that people just naturally don't like the idea of it. I haven't gotten around to Grossman's On Killing yet. It's on The List.

The 'no water after 5pm' thing you mentioned is a little alarming. I drink a lot of water.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:04 AM (y87Qq)

152 Right you wouldn't think so here in small Southern town but it is the same here.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:49 AM (mpXpK)

Yup....our small town Fire Department has a Chief Looter and 3, count 'em 3, "Battalion" Chief Looters doing all manner of things in the command structure.

When the town council looks over the budget and looks for cuts, the FD Looters cry havoc and insurance rates and life safety man!

Seems the Chief Looter could do all 4 jobs but we wouldn't want him to have to actually work you see.

Rank has it's privileges and those don't come cheap.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 19, 2018 11:06 AM (EoRCO)

153 Chicago 'Peace Picnic' Turns Violent: 3 People Shot, Another Is Beaten

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I guess they needed more R-E-S-P-I-C-T.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 11:06 AM (2udiA)

154 Mary Cloggenstein lives in Brattleboro
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Gah!! CloggenstIEin!!!

Posted by: Mary's #1 (and possibly only) Fan at August 19, 2018 11:07 AM (j3frD)

155 I finished "The Rocket Men" by Rex Hall and David J. Shayler. It's a history of the early manned Soviet spaceflights, Vostok and Voskhod. Those under 29 might not recall how the Russians kept claiming one "first" after another in the early days of the Space Age.

The book starts with some background. It discusses the visionary Konstantin Tsiolkovsky (1857-1935) who was one of the first to regard human spaceflight as a real possibility. His notebooks were filled with sketches of multi-stage rockets, spacecraft, airlocks, and even tethered spacewalking. It goes on to cover the high-altitude balloon flights of the 1930s and the development of pressurized cabins and pressure suits.

Like the Americans, after WWII the Russians also captured German rocket engineers and V-2 parts, which formed the basis for Soviet rocket development in the 1950s. A major figure during this period was Sergey Korolyev, who designed the R-7 ICBM, whose descendants are still flying over 60 years later. At the time it was more powerful than any American rocket, so it could lift heavier payloads. Sputnik 1 became the world's first satellite, and Sputnik 2 put the first living creature into orbit, the dog Laika. (Alas, they had not yet developed a means to recover an orbiting spacecraft, so poor Laika was on a suicide mission.}

The heart of the book covers the six manned Vostok and two Voskhod flights between 1961 and 1965. Yuri Gagarin became the first man to orbit the Earth, and Vostok 2 sent Gherman Titov on a 17 orbit flight, making him the first person to spend a full day in orbit. These flights took place before John Glenn became the first American in orbit.

In 1962, Vostok 3 and 4 became the first dual flight, setting endurance records that Project Mercury never matched. Although the two spacecraft lacked the ability to rendezvous and dock and never came closer than several miles apart, the Soviets led the world to believe that such missions were imminent.

After Gordon Cooper closed out the Mercury program with a 22-orbit, 34-hour flight in May 1963, the Russians struck again the following month with another dual flight, Vostok 5 and 6. Vostok 6 carried the first woman into orbit, Valentina Tereshkova, while Valeri Bykovsky aboard Vostok 5 set a record for the longest solo flight, 4 days 23 hours, that still stands today.

In 1964, as the Americans were planning the two-man Gemini missions, the Russians stole their thunder with Voskhod 1, which carried three men. Despite the name change, it was really just a modified Vostok spacecraft. They were able to shoehorn three men into a spacecraft designed for one by dispensing with spacesuits and ejection seats. This was incredibly risky since the crew had no way to escape a failed launch, but it scored another propaganda victory which was all that seemed to matter at the time.

In March 1965, Voskhod 2 carried a detachable airlock, enabling Alexei Leonov to perform the world's first spacewalk. He was only able to fit back inside by partially depressurizing his spacesuit, another tragedy narrowly averted.

There were several follow-on missions planned, but infighting between various personalities and design bureaus prevented them from happening. Korolyev was also developing the more advanced Soyuz spacecraft during this time. His untimely death in January 1966 left the Soviet space program rudderless at a crucial time. In 1965-66 the Americans played the tortoise to the Soviet hare, and ten Gemini flights gave America a decisive lead in every major category of spaceflight.

But the Vostok spacecraft gained a new life as an unmanned spy satellite, and hundreds of them flew over the next decades. Its recoverable portion allowed it to return film and other experiments back to Earth.

This book was published in 2001, and the authors had access to declassified Soviet archives which enabled them to tell this story for the first time in the West.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:07 AM (sdi6R)

156 I'd recommend The Gold Bug Variations by Richard Powers. I found it to be a rich and intellectually challenging book when I read it 17 years ago.
For those of you who haven't yet discovered Neal Stephenson, please dive into Cryptonomicon and the Baroque Cycle, a collection of 3 books (Quicksilver, The Confusion and The System of the World ) although Stephenson didn't want to call it a trilogy. I loved them all. Plus, long and complex books. Mmm, mmm, mmm.

Posted by: zero turn riding mower at August 19, 2018 11:09 AM (txw6d)

157 So, the Soviet Right Stuff.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 11:11 AM (1UZdv)

158 For those of you who haven't yet discovered Neal Stephenson, please dive into Cryptonomicon and the Baroque Cycle, a collection of 3 books (Quicksilver, The Confusion and The System of the World ) although Stephenson didn't want to call it a trilogy. I loved them all. Plus, long and complex books. Mmm, mmm, mmm.
Posted by: zero turn riding mower at August 19, 2018 11:09 AM (txw6d)
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By all means dive into Cryptonomicon but be sure you're wearing your scuba suit and have plenty of oxygen, because it will be a long time before you surface! Haven't read the others yet.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:12 AM (JJZzu)

159 Al Sharpton never was that sharp.

Posted by: Old Dude at August 19, 2018 11:13 AM (LGXGf)

160 OMuse, I just looked at your Twitter link and I love your avatar! Ha!

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:17 AM (JJZzu)

161 There was a Catnegie library in this town.
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Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 19, 2018 11:01 AM (Lqy/e)


They have cat cafés. Why not cat libraries?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 11:17 AM (/qEW2)

162 This book was published in 2001, and the authors had access to declassified Soviet archives which enabled them to tell this story for the first time in the West.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:07 AM


I've watched a number of programs on the Soviet space program and they were pretty incredible, both on the 'hits' and the 'misses' that they didn't speak much of.

They could never pull the hammer on a manned mission to the moon, though. They never had the confidence they could bring their astronauts back alive and didn't want to risk the loss of face a failed mission would entail.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 11:18 AM (LOgQ4)

163 I finished "The Rocket Men" by Rex Hall and David J. Shayler. It's a history of the early manned Soviet spaceflights, Vostok and Voskhod. Those under 29 might not recall how the Russians kept claiming one "first" after another in the early days of the Space Age.
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:07 AM (sdi6R)


Thanks for that. It sounds like something I'd like. It's amazing how few cosmonauts they managed to kill, when you read some of the stories, and then how long some of those designs have remained viable. From Vostok-K to Soyuz-FG, the first manned mission and current Russian manned flights have been on R-7 designs. It would be like the US still sending people up on Atlas and Titan rockets into the 21st century.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:18 AM (y87Qq)

164 But the bureaucrats earning 6-digit salaries don't have to worry, their jobs are always safe.




Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 10:39 AM (co6jd)
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Right you wouldn't think so here in small Southern town but it is the same here.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:49 AM (mpXpK)


Sounds like my small hometown. Right after the mayor got reelected, it wa announced that property taxes needed to be raised 44% because there wasn't enough money in the city operating fund. Somehow about $3.5mil disappeared and no one knew where it went. After the townspeople lost their shit, "most" of it (about $2.5mil) turned up in an account that city officials "forgot about".

Posted by: Bert G at August 19, 2018 11:19 AM (yzxic)

165 400+ newspapers denounce President Trump, can you think of 400+ better reasons not to buy those 400+ newspapers?
Buy books, they last longer.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 11:19 AM (lxZ71)

166 >>>I'd recommend The Gold Bug Variations by Richard Powers. I found it to be a rich and intellectually challenging book when I read it 17 years ago.

Read Poe's short story "The Gold Bug" not that long ago. Great story, but so un-PC I imagine it'll be banned one day.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 11:20 AM (/qEW2)

167 It was amazing how quiet they would be if they were listening to a book.
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 10:57 AM (JJZzu)
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Lovecraft?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:20 AM (kQs4Y)

168 It was amazing how quiet they would be if they were listening to a book.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 10:57 AM (JJZzu)

Well that and the prison tattoos were pretty intimidating.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2018 11:20 AM (wYseH)

169 By all means dive into Cryptonomicon but be sure you're wearing your scuba suit and have plenty of oxygen
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:12 AM (JJZzu)


They'll refill your tanks on Glory IV.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:21 AM (y87Qq)

170 "I understand that the Israelis teach that everybody needs to rush the shooter, even if no weapons are available. Because eventually the sheer weight of numbers will obstruct the shooter's progress."

I've written this here before, but - that's how the Army taught me to react to a near ambush, and I can't for the life of me figure out why I should do differently in an active shooter situation.

People look at the thwarted train attack in Belgium and say, Well those were military guys. Stone and Skarlatos are, but the unnamed Frenchman who first made contact wasn't, so far as I know. Nor was the fiftysomething professor Mark Moogoolian, who got shot in the neck trying to take the shooter down. Nor was Anthony Sadler, Stone's and Skarlatos' old friend. Nor was Chris Norman, the 62-year-old Brit IT guy who said he wanted to flee, but then he saw the Americans moving and decided he should back them up.

And then there's James Shaw, Jr., who bided his time, then charged the Waffle House shooter all alone and won. He wanted to see his little girl again, he got angry, and "I figured if I was going to die, he was going to have to work for it."

Not saying I'd be the badass. I'm saying this response has a better track record than Run if you can, hide if you can't run, fight as a last resort. Which maximizes your personal chance of survival, but ensures the shooter moves unobstructed for as long as possible.

Posted by: JPS at August 19, 2018 11:21 AM (UgdG5)

171 Face the Nation shows that MSM is thinking of using "women's issues" against Trump between now and November. Subliminally it's because Trump doesn't respect women, you see. Nor does he pursue policies that help women specifically. Aimed at women in the battleground suburbs.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 11:22 AM (1UZdv)

172 This book was published in 2001, and the authors had access to declassified Soviet archives which enabled them to tell this story for the first time in the West.
Posted by: rickl


Another great book to read on this subject is "Red Star in Orbit" by James Oberg.

As I recall, Oberg once worked for NASA, so he does bring some actual knowledge and expertise to the analysis of the Soviet space program.
For all of the sometimes false propaganda, the Soviets did do some remarkable things, and some of their cosmonauts were really remarkable and brave men.

Valeri Ryumin I think still holds the record for man-days in orbit. And he did two very long stints in the Salyut and Mir space stations. I once got a chance to talk to some American space physicians, and they knew all about Ryumin, and said he really never recovered from all his time in space/zero-G

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 11:23 AM (S6Pax)

173 Soon I'll look to find first Lost Fleet book and finally start reading it.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at August 19, 2018 10:46 AM (CuFV9)


What a coincidence. I've just started "Dauntless" a couple of days ago.

I am enjoying it very much.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 11:24 AM (co6jd)

174 Face the Nation shows that MSM is thinking of using "women's issues" against Trump between now and November. Subliminally it's because Trump doesn't respect women, you see. Nor does he pursue policies that help women specifically. Aimed at women in the battleground suburbs.

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Just ignore the Muslim running for AG in Michigan.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 11:24 AM (2udiA)

175
I think the post-WWII consensus is that people just naturally don't like the idea of it. I haven't gotten around to Grossman's On Killing yet. It's on The List.


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hogmartin, I liked that one a lot.
He gets flak for being worried about the effect of violent video games on kids but he's probably right - there are definitely some kids who should not be into that.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 11:26 AM (CE6iV)

176
I watched Fox News Sunday and it seemed pretty laid back. Andrew Cuomo's foot in mouth disease was the most interesting. The negative response from the leftist crowd in attendance when he spoke was kind of interesting... my perception is that the 'moderate' middle is waking up to the pandering to the socialist crew and they're weighing their options.

My advice:
[X] Walk away
[X] Stay home in November

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 11:27 AM (LOgQ4)

177 Just ignore the Muslim running for AG in Michigan.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler


I think that is Minnesota, but keep on going.

There was a Muslim running for Gov in the Michigan Democrat primary, as well as some Hindu who wanted Single Payer in Michigan. He actually finished 2nd in the Demo primary.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 11:27 AM (S6Pax)

178 I can't stay as I need to get to church, but I recently found out that my grandchildren's charter school is organized around the leadership principles found in "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People."
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grammie, I read this a long time ago. I don't remember anything particular about it, so I don't believe you have anything to worry about in terms of weirdness. Just a generic business book.

I'm casually reading "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck."

Posted by: shibumi at August 19, 2018 11:28 AM (SbIX4)

179 We scheduled summer vacations around which city was near enough to a Barnes and noble or a walmart in order to stand in line at midnight to get the newest Harry Potter book. Such a huge influence on my kid loving to read.

Posted by: NCKate at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (noTUC)

180 400 hundred newspapers THAT NO ONE READS denounce Trump. OK.

Judge Pirro marks Mueller as the cleaner with ref. to Pulp Fiction and Harvey Keitel. Yeppers.

The Bengazi crime scene not exam. by fbi for 30 days. Mueller time.

Posted by: d9 at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (WX+x0)

181 Lovecraft?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:20 AM (kQs4Y)
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I didn't even have to go that route - they were happy with Henry Huggins and Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle and Calico Captive and The Witch of Blackbird Pond.

And Redwall. But egads, I got a little tired of those after a while, although I loved Brian Jacques' accent.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (JJZzu)

182 Gah!! CloggenstIEin!!!

Posted by: Mary's #1 (and possibly only) Fan at August 19, 2018 11:07 AM (j3frD)



Mary is Portuguese?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (2K6fY)

183 There was a Muslim running for Gov in the Michigan Democrat primary, as well as some Hindu who wanted Single Payer in Michigan. He actually finished 2nd in the Demo primary.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 11:27 AM (S6Pax)
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The Muslim woman, Tlaib(? - too lazy) seemed pretty issues-focused and moderate, but after the election was all "We've got to isolate and punish Israel!". She wanted to get punitive by withholding money.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (kQs4Y)

184 Again on changing attitudes, Donaldson was put in charge of shell-shocked soldiers in WWI despite protesting that he knew nothing of psychology.

He decided to have them march drills. Some passed out, some keeled over, but some recovered enough to serve in non combat positions. He says at least that was better than all of them ending up as dependent on the Veterans Bureau.

Btw his description of the effects of phoshene gas... wow. Awful way to die.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 11:32 AM (CE6iV)

185 172
Another great book to read on this subject is "Red Star in Orbit" by James Oberg.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 19, 2018 11:23 AM (S6Pax)


I already have it, and it's next on my list! I was going to mention it, but my comment was already too long.

Unlike "The Rocket Men", Oberg's book was published in 1981, when the Soviet Union was still a going concern and very secretive. Back in those days it took a lot of detective work and reading of tea leaves and entrails for Westerners to figure out what the Russkies were up to. I believe Oberg speaks and reads fluent Russian, so he was able to research Soviet publications for information.

It will be interesting to compare and contrast the two books.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:33 AM (sdi6R)

186 I didn't even have to go that route - they were happy with Henry Huggins
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (JJZzu)


Whoa... I spent about a cumulative year of my life on those books, and I don't think I read one after I turned 10. By the end, they were on the bookshelf with the spines down or else all the pages would have fallen out when I picked one up.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:35 AM (y87Qq)

187 Scott Johnson at Power Line writes rules don't seem to apply to Ellison, his domestic abuse or Nation of Islam Jew bashing

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 11:35 AM (lxZ71)

188 Listening to that link to VDH. He says he's been working at Nat Review for over 14 years and thought he knew his colleagues, but after the election he couldn't believe the level of venom and condescension.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:36 AM (kQs4Y)

189 187 and his pro Cop killers backing

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 11:36 AM (lxZ71)

190 hogmartin, I hope you read the Henry Reed books as well. Those were a lot of fun.

I would read those aloud to my kids after swim team practice in the summer. It would be mainly for the younger kids, but the older ones would drift in and drape themselves over the sofa and not budge, even though they'd read/heard them before.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:37 AM (JJZzu)

191 Seven Habits of Highly Effective People - iirc, basic idea is decide what's important to you then maje time for it every day.
Kinda preachy though

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 11:37 AM (CE6iV)

192 "I figured if I was going to die, he was going to have to work for it."

Words to live by.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 11:38 AM (atTnz)

193 Face the Nation shows that MSM is thinking of using "women's issues" against Trump between now and November. Subliminally it's because Trump doesn't respect women, you see. Nor does he pursue policies that help women specifically. Aimed at women in the battleground suburbs.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 11:22 AM (1UZdv)


I hope people are realizing that "a government powerful enough to give you everything you need is powerful enough to take away everything you have". Groups who want government to game the system in their favor inevitably get screwed over.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 11:39 AM (/qEW2)

194 It will be interesting to compare and contrast the two books.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:33 AM (sdi6R)


I'm still waiting to hear what you think of Anatoly Zak's book. Mostly because I think you said you already had a copy and it's over $300 used, when I can find it.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:39 AM (y87Qq)

195 170...
Not saying I'd be the badass. I'm saying this response has a better track record than Run if you can, hide if you can't run, fight as a last resort. Which maximizes your personal chance of survival, but ensures the shooter moves unobstructed for as long as possible.
Posted by: JPS at August 19, 2018 11:21 AM (UgdG5)

When in dog-pile range then dog-pile.
Hiding in never a real option.
Run if you can. Run all the way home if you can.

Not to be callous, but if you can get away and don't get the cops will be even worse than the shooter. Sometimes you cannot get away from either (Boston marathon).

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 19, 2018 11:40 AM (1g7ch)

196 Was just looking at the Stalin book, so little time and to much to read

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2018 11:43 AM (lxZ71)

197 Listening to that link to VDH. He says he's been working at Nat Review for over 14 years and thought he knew his colleagues, but after the election he couldn't believe the level of venom and condescension.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:36 AM (kQs4Y)
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What link is that, Eris? I remember someone here linked an interview with him shortly after the inauguration, I think, where he said pretty much the same thing. I was really relieved that I wasn't the only one who thought that about NRO, which used to be my go-to place on the internet. How far the mighty have fallen.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:44 AM (JJZzu)

198 hogmartin, I hope you read the Henry Reed books as well. Those were a lot of fun.
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:37 AM (JJZzu)


Nope, that doesn't sound familiar. Too bad.

I pretty much went from Beverly Cleary to John Bellairs and then onward and that's made me the man I am today.

*tries to get up off couch*
*tangles feet in laptop cord, faceplants into coffee table*
*is eaten by cats*

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:44 AM (y87Qq)

199 *tries to get up off couch*

*tangles feet in laptop cord, faceplants into coffee table*

*is eaten by cats*
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This seems to be my life as well.


Posted by: shibumi at August 19, 2018 11:45 AM (SbIX4)

200 195 one thing the How to Survive book says is that your cell phone can get you killed.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 11:45 AM (CE6iV)

201 I finished "The Rocket Men" by Rex Hall and David J. Shayler.
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:07 AM (sdi6R)

Nice review.

Posted by: jdwill at August 19, 2018 11:45 AM (EEqRQ)

202 ... the older ones
would drift in and drape themselves over the sofa and not budge, even
though they'd read/heard them before.



Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:37 AM (JJZzu)


We only had one book when I was a child...Winnie the Pooh. I knew every word by heart by the time I was six. It didn't matter. I hung on every word Dad read till I was twelve.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 11:46 AM (atTnz)

203
So, the Soviet Right Stuff.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 19, 2018 11:11 AM


Or, in their case, The Left Stuff.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2018 11:46 AM (IqV8l)

204 hogmartin:

https://tinyurl.com/HenryReed

It's never too late. You wouldn't regret spending a few hours reading this while your cats nibble your toes.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:47 AM (JJZzu)

205 Nor does he pursue policies that help women specifically.

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That's nothing. He must enact programs that explicitly punish all men.

-Every third-wave femisist everywhere

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 11:49 AM (cAmtF)

206 194
I'm still waiting to hear what you think of Anatoly Zak's book. Mostly because I think you said you already had a copy and it's over $300 used, when I can find it.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:39 AM (y87Qq)


Alas, that's one of many books I have that I haven't gotten around to reading yet. I spend too much time online.

It looks like it's still available from Zak's website:

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/book_future.html

It's a large format paperback filled with many color illustrations, so it's more expensive than most books.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:49 AM (sdi6R)

207 "VDH. He says he's been working at Nat Review for
over 14 years and thought he knew his colleagues, but after the election
he couldn't believe the level of venom and condescension.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

right, and not just to us "moron" types, they talk like that to VDH. He also comments later how they think being known (or knowing the knowns) in DC makes them important, but the real important people are guys that can take apart his (complicated) pumps and make real production work.

I cued my link to the part where he addresses the fake memes about Trump being so "low", and how they have always gone low.

That first Charlottesville rally (where violence was instigated by Antifa, yet only "white supremacists" got blame ... but Trump was roundly condemned for saying there were good people on both sides (a conciliatory, and true fact) Misguided, but many had good intent, and the whole thing was a pre-arranged "PsyOp" by the left.

The left attacks whole groups (true racism/bigotry) and in their view ... one side is evil, their side (antifa, BLM, DeepState) is good. The (often funded, as O'Keefe showed with Creamer) instigators of the left are low life liars.
link to Breitbart on exposing Creamer inciting violence, even as Hillary tries to blame Trump. The "violent pugnacious Trump" was a leftist meme.

https://tinyurl.com/ydegaz3y

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 11:52 AM (bT8Z4)

208 It's never too late. You wouldn't regret spending a few hours reading this while your cats nibble your toes.
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:47 AM (JJZzu)


Waaaaait... maybe I have read these. "Midge Glass" sounds very familiar and that's not the kind of name where you say "oh, you mean the OTHER Midge Glass. No, not that one either, the other one."

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 11:52 AM (y87Qq)

209 This brought back sweet memories of going to my town library with my mom when I was very little. Sometimes would drop me in the children's section downstairs. At first I could only check out a few books per trip. Eventually I could check out as many as I wanted and it was thrilling. We would tote home 10-15 picture books at a time. What a special treat.

Posted by: LASue at August 19, 2018 11:53 AM (Z48ZB)

210 ....and we're back!

The was one loooong mass. The homily was cut short so we could hear an appeal for contributions and the guy just went on and on and on. Two minutes in, and I think we were all ready to donate, but after 20 minutes I was starting to get a little tired of the narrative.

Meanwhile, back at the book thread:
Does anyone remember the Dilbert book titled "Seven Habits of Highly Defective People?" It was a hoot.

Libraries: Our local library never used cards until recently. If you wanted a book, you filled out a slip and simply signed it out. This was to symbolize their openness. Once you returned the book, they threw the slip away.

But with the digital age, they got actual cards (which was controversial, natch) and now we scan the bar code like everyone else.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 11:54 AM (cfSRQ)

211 Unlike "The Rocket Men", Oberg's book was published in 1981, when the Soviet Union was still a going concern and very secretive. Back in those days it took a lot of detective work and reading of tea leaves and entrails for Westerners to figure out what the Russkies were up to. I believe Oberg speaks and reads fluent Russian, so he was able to research Soviet publications for information.
Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 11:33 AM (sdi6R)


Yes. Oberg had to do a lot of reading between lines, connecting invisible dots, discerning patterns in tea leaves, figuring out the truth from what Pravda chose NOT to say, etc.

And by all accounts, he did a pretty good job.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 11:54 AM (co6jd)

212 179 We scheduled summer vacations around which city was near enough to a Barnes and noble or a walmart in order to stand in line at midnight to get the newest Harry Potter book. Such a huge influence on my kid loving to read

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My teenager musical group was on tour when the last Potter book was released. We made arrangements to pick up books at a local bookstore at midnight when it all went down, however we didn't pass out the books that night since the big performance was the next day and we knew damn well they would stay up all night reading.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 11:56 AM (cAmtF)

213 https://youtu.be/4YtzgA310t0?t=323
bluebell, that is the VDH link all hail Eris referred to.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 11:56 AM (bT8Z4)

214 That first Charlottesville rally (where violence was instigated by Antifa, yet only "white supremacists" got blame ... but Trump was roundly condemned for saying there were good people on both sides (a conciliatory, and true fact) Misguided, but many had good intent, and the whole thing was a pre-arranged "PsyOp" by the left.
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Totally a "PsyOp" and everybody knows it--Trump certainly does and so does the media. That poor girl who had a heart attack--or was hit by the car, that was unplanned, and a lucky break for "the narrative."

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 11:57 AM (y8Foj)

215 Here's the VDH link, Bloobelle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YtzgA310t0&feature=youtu.be&t=323

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:57 AM (kQs4Y)

216 hogmartin - the Homer Price books too. Very fun.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:58 AM (JJZzu)

217 Thanks, Eris!

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:59 AM (JJZzu)

218 I watched Fox News Sunday and it seemed pretty laid back. Andrew Cuomo's foot in mouth disease was the most interesting. The negative response from the leftist crowd in attendance when he spoke was kind of interesting... my perception is that the 'moderate' middle is waking up to the pandering to the socialist crew and they're weighing their options.

My advice:
[X] Walk away
[X] Stay home in November
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 11:27 AM (LOgQ4)


Do you think many in the audience gasped because they didn't agree with Cuomo ( that America was "never great") or because they quickly realized that he committed a faux pas that would turn up in political campaigns and commercials and strengthen Trump's hand?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 12:01 PM (y8Foj)

219 216 hogmartin - the Homer Price books too. Very fun.
Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:58 AM (JJZzu)


I'll always remember 'Homer Price and the Doughnut Machine.'

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at August 19, 2018 12:01 PM (co6jd)

220 187 Scott Johnson at Power Line writes rules don't seem to apply to Ellison, his domestic abuse or Nation of Islam Jew bashing

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Well, he possesses Muslim Melanin. The only thing more powerful would be to add in lesbian-disabled-immigrant.

(did I miss any boxes?)

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 12:01 PM (cAmtF)

221 He also comments later how they think being known (or knowing the knowns) in DC makes them important, but the real important people are guys that can take apart his (complicated) pumps and make real production work....
Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 11:52 AM (bT8Z4)
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In one of his NR articles years ago, VDH observed that few of his colleagues in academe could actually DO anything practical, such as was required on his farm.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 12:02 PM (kQs4Y)

222 87 ... "Kindle offered it to me for $9.95 or $7.95. Do you have the magic search phrase that turns up the free volume?"

Bandersnatch, When I search under books on Amazon and enter "the sailor's word book" without the quote marks the first item that comes up is the freebie Kindle version.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 12:03 PM (V+03K)

223 187 Scott Johnson at Power Line writes rules don't seem to apply to Ellison, his domestic abuse or Nation of Islam Jew bashing

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Well, he possesses Muslim Melanin. The only thing more powerful would be to add in lesbian-disabled-immigrant.

(did I miss any boxes?)
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 12:01 PM (cAmtF)

Apart from his vile comments and actions, Ellison just looks alike and talks like an asshole, a wise ass black Muslim asshole who knows that he'll never be called to account by most members of his party and the media....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 12:03 PM (y8Foj)

224 Listening to that link to VDH. He says he's been working at Nat Review for over 14 years and thought he knew his colleagues, but after the election he couldn't believe the level of venom and condescension.

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Trump is from Queens right? Not our kind of people, or at least the kimd of people we pretend to be.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 12:03 PM (cAmtF)

225 "The Killer Angels" was the book that got me to take a second look at Gettysburg. Prior to reading it, I found the battle rather dull, but it really brought it alive.

The movie based on it terrible. The best thing you can do is drink every time they say "general" or "ground."

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 12:04 PM (cfSRQ)

226 Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 11:30 AM (JJZzu)

Calico Captive. I read that a couple of times as a kid. Checked it out from the town library, which was a 60s monstrosity (the one they built in the early 90s is much more attractive) but at least it held a lot of books. I wonder if Calico Captive is still available or if the SJW contingent has axed it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 19, 2018 12:08 PM (phT8I)

227 The movie based on it terrible. The best thing you can do is drink every time they say "general" or "ground."
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 12:04 PM (cfSRQ)


They took us to see that in middle school, as we happened to be reading The Killer Angels in class at the time. I thought it was fine, but I haven't seen it since... it's ridiculously long for a movie.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:09 PM (y87Qq)

228
But with the digital age, they got actual cards (which was controversial, natch) and now we scan the bar code like everyone else.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 11:54 AM


The day that comes, long after you've printed and attached thousands of bar codes on books, attached them to every item in a couple of databases, printed a thousand individual library cards, installed the software, installed the bar code reader, and you hand it to the librarian and say, scan this first, then scan this, and you see the incredible smile on that persons face as the promise comes true...

Looking back, that was one of my better memories of life. And I did it all for free.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 12:11 PM (LOgQ4)

229 Bluebell, Calico Captive is available on Amazon and B and N.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 12:12 PM (atTnz)

230 Loved "Killer Angels" and thought the movie was brilliant. It caused a road trip with the kids to the Gettysburg battlefield.

Posted by: Abby at August 19, 2018 12:12 PM (/we70)

231 Speaking of travel books... this is what I read on vacation in Belize with my kids:

1) "Cardiac Arrest" by Howard Root. Non-fiction account of a recent DOJ prosecution atrocity. And you think Flynn is bad?

2) Autobiography (with co-author) of Sammy Hagar. The Red Rocker has genuine entrepreneurial talent! Also, he came from the most deprived background of any Caucasian I've ever read about-- got no breaks at birth whatsoever.

3) A scholarly biography of Wyatt Earp-- the first such ever written. Fascinating.

4) "Fiery Trial: Lincoln & American Slavery," by Pulitzer prize winning historian Eric Foner.

Posted by: strawdog at August 19, 2018 12:12 PM (Cssks)

232 Ooops...229 was aimed at Polliwog. I'm sorry.

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 12:13 PM (atTnz)

233 "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People - iirc, basic idea is decide what's important to you then make time for it every day.

Kinda preachy though"
not sure which "leadership" book it was, maybe "In Pursuit of Excellence" that talks about KRAs, key result areas. Write down all the important things to you, label them as a, b, or c priority ... then do the A Priority things first.

It does help to have such lists, when key results are most important. One problem I saw was people can become machines acting out on prioritized lists. But constant reevaluation could still make those effectiveness tools useful.

The flip side though is what we see with the left ... a bunch of priority driven drones that are on their own self interest mission. The NeverTrumpers come to mind as well. The whole PC realm is KRA driven, but media drives their priorities.

So the parallel to a purpose driven life might be "choose your rut carefully, you might be in it a long time". People active in the arena of life have to adjust ... top down (central planners) control freaks will drive the round peg (individual liberty) through the square hole (fascism, hardened ideology). imo

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 12:15 PM (bT8Z4)

234 106---The librarians are public workers as well, but I guess they are educated and not as apt to vote for communist democrats.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 19, 2018 10:29 AM (mpXpK)
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Alas, the very opposite is true. Librarians as a whole are far to the left of teachers.
(I'm talking about the individuals. Both the NEA and the ALA are hardcore left.)

I can only speculate as to why this is so, based on observations of my own and of a librarian friend.

Both fields are dominated by women, which makes them tilt left, but the proportion of MARRIED women in teaching is much higher.
Anecdotally --- AFAIK there are no stats on this --- the proportion of HETEROSEXUAL women is much higher too.

My librarian friend who got her degree back in the 90's says she was shocked when she first got to the library science school. It was like a Women's Studies department.

As for the librarian's "education," um, no. Library science is a technical field. It's all about methods. Yes, you have to be literate but you don't need a broad liberals arts education in the old sense of the word. That requirement went out in the 70's.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 19, 2018 12:15 PM (0jtPF)

235 Need something light...a wise-cracking detective, maybe. Suggestions?

Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 12:16 PM (atTnz)

236 nood dinosaurs killed not by giant meteor but by volcanoes.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 19, 2018 12:16 PM (/qEW2)

237 I haven't read "Killer Angels" but I liked the Gettysburg movie. I believe it featured hundreds of Civil War re-enactors as extras, firing cannons, etc.

Posted by: rickl at August 19, 2018 12:17 PM (sdi6R)

238 You know what was awesome about massive card catalogs and the Dewey decimal system? You could find stuff you weren't looking for.

Your book is at 902.11, great, so you go to the stacks and it's surrounded by books on similar topics. Find something obscure that you weren't looking for, cite it, impress your professor.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2018 09:05 AM (fuK7c)"


This !
Loved finding stuff that way.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 19, 2018 09:13 AM (58Au

He also comments later how they think being known (or knowing the knowns) in DC makes them important, but the real important people are guys that can take apart his (complicated) pumps and make real production work....
Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 11:52 AM (bT8Z4)
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In one of his NR articles years ago, VDH observed that few of his colleagues in academe could actually DO anything practical, such as was required on his farm.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 12:02 PM (kQs4Y)



Going and doing has been the human way since forever,

and so, is deeply satisfying.

But, also keeps one connected to the real world and reality by physical learning.

A big part of our current problems as a nation is that Our Betters so disconnected from reality by their jobs, education, and inclination,

that they can't even change a tire.

It's beneath them, as is all physicality and thus the lessons of the possible.

That's the reason they fail us as gov't officials, educators, media.

Yes, yes, geniuses. Your minds can conceive anything,

but, your stupid ideas have real world consequences to real people if applied in the real world. (Hello-o-o-o-o-o Socialism!)

I don't know what the solution to this is-

However I do understand why one of the first actions by Castro, Mao, Pol Pot, etc was to stick intellectuals (even those who supported them) out in the cane fields for hard labor.

It was a dose of the real for their flighty minds.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 12:20 PM (9q7Dl)

239 Lovecraft?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 19, 2018 11:20 AM (kQs4Y)


A guy I know says that he always brought books into the field when on maneuvers, and got razzed to "read us all a story

Science fiction and horror were always cheap at the used bookstores near base, so those are what he bought to read.

So he read them Beyond the Mountains of Madness while in the middle of no-where on a dark moonless night, and never got bothered again.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (2K6fY)

240 Do you think many in the audience gasped because they didn't agree with Cuomo ( that America was "never great") or because they quickly realized that he committed a faux pas that would turn up in political campaigns and commercials and strengthen Trump's hand?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 12:01 PM


At times I entertain the concept of the 'moderate Democrat' who would be repulsed by such a statement of fact by Cuomo. I suppose it's because of my advancing age, and the fact that such a creature once roamed the Earth.

I'd like to believe that this rampant anti-Americanism has hit peak stupid and will now decline. November should tell the truth.

Either way, November may well be life-changing for me. I can't stay in this state anymore if the House is lost. I'll have to cut my losses, knowing damn well they'll be coming for my wallet, which isn't exactly flush with extra cash to redistribute.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (LOgQ4)

241 Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 12:13 PM (atTnz)

Thanks. I don't want to buy it though. Just wondering if new generations can find it in the library like I did. I guess I could check the library here at least.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (phT8I)

242 Need something light...a wise-cracking detective, maybe. Suggestions?
Posted by: creeper at August 19, 2018 12:16 PM (atTnz)


Just throwing this out - "You're Stepping on My Cloak and Dagger" by Roger Hall. Really quick and entertaining autobiographical account of a junior Army officer recruited into the OSS during WWII. People who Would Know (I'm not one) say it's one of those books that Intel people love because it's hilarious and true-to-life. I think I read it in about a day, if that's the kind of thing you're looking for.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:23 PM (y87Qq)

243 He must enact programs that explicitly punish all men.

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Menocide.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 12:24 PM (+y/Ru)

244 In Chicago. Was not at peace park shooting last night. :/

Large gathering of Milady's family for the 100th anniversary of her Dad's birth.

Books by her mom and brothers are on the table here. I don't have access to my bit.ly links, but search Amazon for Mary Jo Clark, Jack Clark, Vince Clark.

The Confidant - Vince - a politician and a detective search for vengeance

Private Path - the desk calendars of (Milady's mom) Mary Jo Ryan 1937-1943 edited by Jack Clark. Look also for Jack's detective novels.

Hard-gritten big city tales by Chicago natives.

Be sure to get to Amazon via Ace so he gets some pennies.

That's all for me. .. gotta get back to mingling.

Posted by: mindful webworker's cell at August 19, 2018 12:25 PM (utimh)

245 195 one thing the How to Survive book says is that your cell phone can get you killed.
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 11:45 AM (CE6iV)

How so? By making you a target for the shooter while you are dialing 911?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 12:27 PM (LI7AQ)

246 How so? By making you a target for the shooter while you are dialing 911?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 12:27 PM (LI7AQ)



Could be.

My guess is that any ringing, beeping, whatever by your phone draws the shooter's attention.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 12:30 PM (9q7Dl)

247 Thanks. I don't want to buy it though. Just wondering if new generations can find it in the library like I did. I guess I could check the library here at least.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (phT8I)
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As long as there are homeschoolers there will always be a market for books like these. I remember the Elizabeth Enright books coming back into print and I immediately ordered the whole set in hardback. She is my absolute favorite kiddie lit author.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 12:32 PM (JJZzu)

248 My guess is that any ringing, beeping, whatever by your phone draws the shooter's attention.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 19, 2018 12:30 PM (9q7Dl)


The active shooter presentation they did in onboarding/indoc at work said basically that. You're hiding behind something or wedging a door shut, family and friends hear about the incident on the news. What's the first thing they do? Call to make sure you're OK. Then, when you don't answer, call again.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2018 12:33 PM (y87Qq)

249 creeper, try the Nero Wolfe series by Rex Stout. They're old and just what the doctor ordered.

Posted by: bluebell at August 19, 2018 12:33 PM (JJZzu)

250 Commenting now, will start thread afterward.

I finished the first two books of the Stainless Steel Rat series by Harry Harrison. I first heard of this back in college, and I purchased a collection of what was then all three books in the series but never finished it, and now it's lost to time. I got this volume through interlibrary loan. That forced me not to waste time that could be spent reading, because ILL does not allow unlimited renewal. Fortunately, I was going to fly to San Diego for vacation, so I had lots of time to read.

I was floored when I checked the copyright year of the first book -- 1961, the year I was born! That resulted in many anachronisms, particularly the idea of newspapers in an era of interplanetary travel. (I always note any mentions of newspapers; that's been the majority of my career. I even bought a NYT while in SD.)

Still, I enjoyed the books. They're the adventures of a career criminal who is captured by an agency that in turn recruits him. Set a thief to catch a thief.

HH wrote more books in the series since this collection was published, so the TBR list stays stable. At least I know I can still finish books, so the list will shrink -- provided I stay out of the library!

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 19, 2018 12:36 PM (CUP2I)

251 At times I entertain the concept of the 'moderate Democrat' who would be repulsed by such a statement of fact by Cuomo. I suppose it's because of my advancing age, and the fact that such a creature once roamed the Earth.

I'd like to believe that this rampant anti-Americanism has hit peak stupid and will now decline. November should tell the truth.

Either way, November may well be life-changing for me. I can't stay in this state anymore if the House is lost. I'll have to cut my losses, knowing damn well they'll be coming for my wallet, which isn't exactly flush with extra cash to redistribute.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 19, 2018 12:22 PM (LOgQ4)

I do believe moderate Democrats still roam the earth --many of them voted for Trump in '16 (having previously voted for Obama in '08 and/or '12) but I wonder how many MORE Trump (and the GOP) can peel off. Or will the pressure they feel from friends/family/co-workers --and from the constant Trump hate of the media keep them in line next time out.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2018 12:40 PM (y8Foj)

252 I've got that VDH speech going in the background, btw. Excellent stuff.
Did anyone see the CNN interview with the shrieking ex-intel lunatic?

Poster boy for incoherent privilege.

Alternate take: Upper-class white man tells black man to know his place.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at August 19, 2018 12:41 PM (cfSRQ)

253 How so? By making you a target for the shooter while you are dialing 911?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 19, 2018 12:27 PM (LI7AQ)

yeah, what naturalfake said.

the guy being interviewed in the book speculated that the shooter who kept shooting the wounded/ dead in Orlamdo (iirc) was reacting to cell phone vibrations/ sounds.So anyone playing possum got shot.

Also pointed out that ppl were hiding in the bathroom and wasting their time and attention on their cell phones instead of on the situation

he says, I think, if you are in an active shooter situation, call 911, quickly relay relevant info, then either turn off your cell or leave it, still connected to 911 and move far away from it.
( that way 911 can hear what's happening without endangering you)

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 19, 2018 12:41 PM (CE6iV)

254 About Carnegie libraries --

Girard, Kan., the closest thing I have to a hometown-- grew up on a farm -- is noted for being the smallest town to have a Carnegie library. It remains in use, although it's been enlarged.

One of my great-aunts was the librarian when I was young. Spent a lot of happy times there.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 19, 2018 12:52 PM (CUP2I)

255 I love the Lost Fleet series and Jack Campbell is one of the nicest authors I've met. We were on a panel together last year, just the two of us, and he was deferential and genuinely curious about my work. Did you know he's also an Admiral in the U.S. Navy? His real name is John Hemry.

Posted by: William Alan Webb at August 19, 2018 12:54 PM (OhYcy)

256 Need something light...a wise-cracking detective, maybe. Suggestions?

=======
creeper, try the Liturgical Mysteries by Mark Schweitzer. $2.99 apiece from Amazon. A police chief in a small N Carolina mountain town who is the Music Directo at the Episcopalian church and writes incredibly bizarre/terrible Ramond Chandleresque mysteries that even the Bulwer Lytton judges would go 'Dude, that's too weird even for us.'

And then it gets wacky.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 19, 2018 12:55 PM (cAmtF)

257 Creeper, Both the Nero Wolfe and Liturgical Mystery series are great suggestions. One caution: read the Liturgical Mysteries where you can laugh out loud without alarming people. I can't get through them without roaring with laughter.

One other suggestion. The Martha's Vineyard mystery series by Philip R. Craig. They are pleasant, witty and hard to figure out. And they usually have wonderful recipes at the end of each book that the characters mention in the story. Very enjoyable.

Posted by: JTB at August 19, 2018 01:19 PM (V+03K)

258 "that they can't even change a tire.
It's beneath them, as is all physicality and thus the lessons of the possible.Posted by: naturalfake
yeah, their incompetence in those aspects of the self reliance arena would be embarrassing, so they cover it with arrogance/pride. probably not even a cognizant action ... it is basic "inferiority complex" anxiety, relieved/comforted by joining a group of fellow role playing self-proclaimed "academic elite".

Dirty Harry said a man has to know (and accept?) his limitations. heh

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2018 01:24 PM (bT8Z4)

259 @235
Murder in Thrall

Posted by: artemis at August 19, 2018 02:17 PM (AwPyG)

260 HH wrote more books in the series since this
collection was published, so the TBR list stays stable. At least I know I
can still finish books, so the list will shrink -- provided I stay out
of the library!
Posted by: Weak Geek at August 19, 2018 12:36 PM (CUP2I)


Try the Deathworld Trilogy also, it is more of the same. Jason dinAlt is pretty cool too, but sort of hang-dog since everyone around him is stronger, faster and deadlier than he.

Harrison decided to focus on sales early in his career, since he planned to write as a profession, and decided from his history of writing copy, that you had to catch the editor's eye in the first half page, since often that was all that was seen from the pile of new manuscripts.

He claimed to have sat down regularly and rattled off a series of exciting half page starts to stories that are designed to pop you between the eyes, introduce an individual you really like or really dislike, and make you ask, "what the heck is going to happen next?"

He stated that as an editor himself, he found so many authors should have thrown away the first 2-5 pages of their manuscripts before submitting them, and part of his job was getting the authors to accept that.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2018 02:22 PM (2K6fY)

261 48
I read the first five of the "Lost Fleet" series and found them to be
pretty good reads. The main character is a bit too angst-ridden for my
tastes but Campbell actually takes into account that combat would occur
in three-dimensional space.



These are essentually written as two separate series. The first
series of five books covers the hero defeating the Syndic Worlds while
the next series covers the war with the aliens that had been
manipulating the humans in the first series.
Retired Buckeye Cop-The main character is a big angst ridden- hoping that changes somewhat, but I was taken with the combat theory as well. So, I will take a shot at the next few, but keep in mind the series.
And I those are my travel books - clocked 25K miles this summer on a plane...

Posted by: Charlotte at August 19, 2018 02:37 PM (mt65F)

262 22 Good morning! This week I read Deeper Then the Good, five Tammy Hoag.

D'oh! Darn auto-cucumber! Deeper Than the Dead, by Tammy Hoag!

(I dictated my blurb to my iPad while on teh treadmill at the Y!)

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 19, 2018 02:49 PM (ihzOe)

263 When the couple finally do it in a seedy hotel, the narrator gives them both privacy and time by describing the decor in the hallway outside the room until they're finished.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2018 09:46 AM (+y/Ru)

Classeh AND frilliant!

Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 19, 2018 03:04 PM (ihzOe)

264 229
Bluebell, Calico Captive is available on Amazon and B and N.
Not sure how long they will last, but if you are a member of Bookmooch, there are two copies of Calico Captive available.

Posted by: Charlotte at August 19, 2018 03:12 PM (mt65F)

265 I saw a trailer for the movie "Operation Finale", which will be opening soon. It's about the capture of Adolf Eichmann by Israeli agents in Buenos Aires in 1961. The movie probably will suck (remember, this is Hollywood history), though Ben Kingsley plays Eichmann, which could be very interesting. However, the trailer did nudge me to pull Neil Bascomb's "Hunting Eichmann" off the shelf and re-read it.
"Hunting" is the definitive history of the Eichmann's escape from Europe, the manhunt for him, and his discovery and capture; yet it reads like a thriller, a real page-turner. I have to warn you: once you open the book, you will find it very difficult to put down.

Posted by: Brown Line at August 19, 2018 03:39 PM (S6ArX)

266 Wow, this was a short thread!

Kindltot, in regard to snappy openings, that's one of the many reasons why I love Donald Hamilton's Matt Helm books. The man knew how to grab eyeballs.

"It was an acid job, and they're never pretty to look at ..."

"I always feel guilty about smuggling a gun through Mexican customs."

"That morning in Ensenada, the day I got shot at ..."

And on a related subject, Hamiltion was circumspect with his sex scenes. He would end a chapter with a leading line and pick up the story at the start of the next chapter, hours (or minutes) after the act.

I have no objection to pornographic writing, but I prefer porn to stay in porn and not stray into other genres.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 19, 2018 03:59 PM (wDrsJ)

267 I'm in the middle of Michael Edelson's thriller Theft of Fire. It's a real roller-coaster, and I'm enjoying it immensely when I don't have to put it down to regain serenity. A Delta force operative is tricked into doing something he would never have done.

Posted by: Laura Montgomery at August 19, 2018 04:09 PM (KcRPn)

268 One of the fun bits of the Lost Fleet series is the covers. They all show the hero in battle armor, looking all brave and tough, while he *never* gets in that situation in the books. I think it's the 4th or 5th book where that finds its way into the story.
Good reads.

Posted by: GWB at August 19, 2018 08:41 PM (EFhmz)

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