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For First Time In History, Democrats (Admit to Pollsters That They) View Socialism More Favorably Than Capitalism

I'm old enough to remember when saying that Democrats were socialists was officially racist, according to the Democrat Party communications operations and its partner, the Democrat/socialist media.

It was a "racial code-word," you see. A "dog whistle."

Now Democrats are proclaiming it themselves.

Does that make them racist?

Democrats More Positive About Socialism Than Capitalism
by Frank Newport

47% of Democrats view capitalism positively, down from 56% in 2016

57% of Democrats now view socialism positively, little changed from 2010

Republicans very positive about capitalism; 16% positive on socialism

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- For the first time in Gallup's measurement over the past decade, Democrats have a more positive image of socialism than they do of capitalism. Attitudes toward socialism among Democrats have not changed materially since 2010, with 57% today having a positive view. The major change among Democrats has been a less upbeat attitude toward capitalism, dropping to 47% positive this year -- lower than in any of the three previous measures.

I wasn't aware that Democrats has long admitted to a favorable impression of socialism, which is why I'm now particularly angry at the media denying it all these years when Democrats have expressed near-60% pro-socialist leanings since Barack Obama's first year in office.

The big change here is the 9% drop in Democrat support of capitalism.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 02:36 PM




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1 Thank you President Trump!

Posted by: ShainS at August 13, 2018 02:35 PM (ITjNa)

2 They think it's the socialist moment so the masks have dropped.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 02:35 PM (RD7QR)

3 Let this illustrate for you: When they call you racist for saying something, it's because you're right.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 13, 2018 02:36 PM (oVJmc)

4 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 02:36 PM (nMj2X)

5 Trickle Up Misery > Trickle Down Wealth.

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 13, 2018 02:36 PM (xBSm0)

6 They think socialism = free shit

Posted by: steevy at August 13, 2018 02:36 PM (LiyEm)

7 The big change here is the 9% drop in Democrat support of capitalism.


Free Shit Army is on the march.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 02:37 PM (nMj2X)

8 *waves*

Posted by: Venezuela at August 13, 2018 02:37 PM (oVJmc)

9 top 10

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 13, 2018 02:37 PM (8D42x)

10 And 90% have no idea what socialism is, other that free shit.

Posted by: Javems at August 13, 2018 02:37 PM (RBnoX)

11 The problem is, given how students have been educated for the last 40-some years, it just might really be the socialist moment, in which case we might as well head for the hills and get that national divorce.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 02:37 PM (RD7QR)

12 So 57% of democrats are communists who haven't changed parties? Or is it 43% of democrats haven't realized that the commies have taken over their party and left for the Republican or some other party?


Oh who cares, they all suck

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 13, 2018 02:38 PM (ymnmz)

13 Dims are loony birds! coo-coo!

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at August 13, 2018 02:38 PM (0OmEj)

14 Common core math?

57 and 47 is 104%

Posted by: Don Q. at August 13, 2018 02:38 PM (NgKpN)

15 The Walrus is talking of many things

Repeat, the Walrus is talking of many things

Forecast cloudy with a chance of golden showers

Repeat, forecast cloudy with a chance of golden showers

Bring an umbrella (and disinfectant)

Posted by: Nellie Ohr's Ham Radio Transmissions at August 13, 2018 02:38 PM (DuAZ5)

16 I'm sure their socialist experiment will end well. The ALWAYS do.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:38 PM (37IEG)

17 And here I thought we won the Cold War.

Nope.

The commies just went underground, instead of having a state sponsor (the USSR).

They transitioned from "overt" to "crypto" and subverted the minds of generations of naive children.

Posted by: zombie at August 13, 2018 02:38 PM (c+2jX)

18 "Republicans very positive about capitalism; 16% positive on socialism"

Found Bill Krystol.

But seriously. How can any self-reported republican say "Yeah, socialism is pretty cool, bro"?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 13, 2018 02:38 PM (KUaJL)

19 Alternate Headline: Make America Venezuela Now!

Posted by: ShainS at August 13, 2018 02:38 PM (ITjNa)

20 "8 *waves*
Posted by: Venezuela"


Hey, is Joe Kennedy still cashing checks from those commie assholes for his heating oil "fund"?

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (OD2ni)

21 ok, who are the 16% of Republicans who view socialism favorably? Black Marketeers?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (jp0Bv)

22 Bernie Sanders might have won the Dem nomination had Hillary not had the whole thing rigged to begin with.

Sanders could have won the Dem nomination, and he wasn't even a Dem. He was a Socialist. He changed his affiliation to run, and after he lost the nomination, he changed it back.

And he is still considered a face for the Dems.

None of this should be surprising.

Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (Z5y53)

23 So the richer they get the more socialist they get? Major league stuuuuupid.

Posted by: torabora at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (5nDlD)

24 And 90% have no idea what socialism is, other than free shit.*




*Unless you are a white man.

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (xBSm0)

25 They think it's the socialist moment so the masks have dropped.

Not that I particularly want to die )not today, at least), I am grateful that I'm on the downward slide from 29 and won't be around long enough to see this country become a socialist shithole.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (kqsXK)

26 It's possible to view both capitalism and socialism positively, hence no math issue.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (+ypLs)

27 So, when the economy is one of the best ever, Dems decide to ditch capitalism. They also supported commies in the cold war and muslims in the war on terror.

If Martians ever invade, Dems will take sides against the human race.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (tNkxf)

28 You know what makes that poll have no credibility for me? That 16% of Republicans found Socialism favorably. Unless they interpreted a series of questions to make that determination as opposed to a direct question. Such as : Do you favor Social Security? Do you favor food stamps? etc.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (Cz+xD)

29 There was a Red Communist flag in the Antifa demonstration yesterday

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (lxZ71)

30 Civil war seems to be the only answer. I pray it never comes too be. It will be ugly.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at August 13, 2018 02:40 PM (0OmEj)

31 24
And 90% have no idea what socialism is, other than free shit.*




*Unless you are a white man.


Posted by: Roland THTG at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (xBSm0)
Yeah, then it will be Nacho Cheese.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:40 PM (37IEG)

32 18 "Republicans very positive about capitalism; 16% positive on socialism"

Found Bill Krystol.

But seriously. How can any self-reported republican say "Yeah, socialism is pretty cool, bro"?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 13, 2018 02:38 PM (KUaJL)

Either:

1. Bill Kristol, or
B. Stoned out of their gourds

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 02:40 PM (RD7QR)

33 21 ok, who are the 16% of Republicans who view socialism favorably? Black Marketeers?


Cruise ship social directors?

Posted by: pep at August 13, 2018 02:40 PM (wW03z)

34 I want to turn this country into Venzuela to teach Trump voters a lesson.

Posted by: The Rick Wilson at August 13, 2018 02:40 PM (OD2ni)

35 Just put your lips together and blow.

Posted by: The Dog Whistler at August 13, 2018 02:40 PM (IqV8l)

36 I am so old I remember when they called Obamacare socialized medicine the Left had conniptions, but now, they say, hey if you think everyone should have health care you might be a Socialist.

Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2018 02:40 PM (Z5y53)

37 >>>For First Time In History, Democrats (Admit to Pollsters That They) View Socialism More Favorably Than Capitalism

and/or

For the First Time in History, It's Gonna Start Raining Men

Discuss.

Posted by: m at August 13, 2018 02:41 PM (CwOPz)

38 I wonder how long before they start saying openly "of course we can make socialism work when all those foreigners couldn't, because we are better and smarter" rather than just having it sit there as an unsaid underpinning.

Posted by: Bete, deplorable bot of melancholy at August 13, 2018 02:41 PM (Ojki1)

39 15
The Walrus is talking of many things



Repeat, the Walrus is talking of many things



Forecast cloudy with a chance of golden showers



Repeat, forecast cloudy with a chance of golden showers



Bring an umbrella (and disinfectant)

Posted by: Nellie Ohr's Ham Radio Transmissions at August 13, 2018 02:38 PM (DuAZ5)

Acknowledged.
The Cleveland steamer is on duty. Repeat. The Cleveland steam is on duty.
Lenny is stroking the rabbit. Lenny is stroking the rabbit.


Posted by: Offshoe Pirate Radio at August 13, 2018 02:41 PM (ymnmz)

40 16% of Republicans also found watching Paolo bang their wife as very positive.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 13, 2018 02:41 PM (+ypLs)

41 Socialism is a pitiful, childish revenge fantasy from the 1840s. The fact that ANYBODY even talks about it any more, much less believes in it, is totally mind-boggling.

Socialism is about as relevant and factually demonstrable as Phrenology or Phlogiston Theory, both of which were also popular when socialism was first proposed.

Posted by: zombie at August 13, 2018 02:41 PM (c+2jX)

42 47% of Democrats view capitalism positively, down from 56% in 2016

--

2016 = Trump

Trump is very icky.

Trump stands for capitalism.

The opposite is socialism.

Therefore, we like socialism because it's anti-Trump.

Actually, I know it's not that simple. That's partly it, but the shift has been ongoing for a long time. And to that, the blame is squarely on the brainwashing from entertainment, media and the public education system, particularly higher ed.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 13, 2018 02:41 PM (mQ0Mc)

43 #15 The hookers are in the elevator. The hookers are the elevator.

Posted by: CNN byline at August 13, 2018 02:41 PM (5nDlD)

44 Civil war seems to be the only answer. I pray it never comes too be. It will be ugly.
Posted by: USNtakim


It will be. But it'll settle shit for a very long time.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 02:42 PM (nMj2X)

45 26 It's possible to view both capitalism and socialism positively, hence no math issue.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (+ypLs)

So, the intersection of those two subsets, on a Venn Diagram would be marked as...

Clueless?

Posted by: Don Q. at August 13, 2018 02:42 PM (NgKpN)

46 Neither of those types of economies is the U.S. economy, so why poll about them?

IIRC, econ textbooks would classify it as a "mixed" economy. Though I see it trending toward corporatism / syndicalism.

Posted by: Hands at August 13, 2018 02:42 PM (EzdLW)

47 38
I wonder how long before they start saying openly "of course we can
make socialism work when all those foreigners couldn't, because we are
better and smarter" rather than just having it sit there as an unsaid
underpinning.

Posted by: Bete, deplorable bot of melancholy at August 13, 2018 02:41 PM (Ojki1)
Well, except for the fact they seem very keen to invite a bunch of foreigners in to help them implement their new socialist utopia. Go figure.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:42 PM (37IEG)

48 Does socialism mean I can have three houses like Bernie Sanders?

Posted by: tu3031 at August 13, 2018 02:42 PM (jDF8P)

49
The dumb shits think that free college equals Harvard education, not two years at BumFvck community college.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 13, 2018 02:42 PM (LOgQ4)

50 The math also doesn't add up when comparing the 2010 and 2016 findings .

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 13, 2018 02:42 PM (Cz+xD)

51 The more rich and "elite" you are, the less socialism affects you, at least at first. You can afford the higher taxes (and afford to avoid them) easier, the higher costs aren't much of an issue to you, and the societal corruption is to places you don't go or care about. So yeah, once you get yours, socialism feels like kindness and generosity and it doesn't have a price, so no surprise they are for it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 13, 2018 02:43 PM (39g3+)

52 That's because of the constant media/Dem/education refrain of 'soft' or 'kinder, gentler' socialism vs 'crony' capitalism.

It's all in the framing.

And they own most of the hammers and saws.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 13, 2018 02:43 PM (0ogQG)

53 But socialism is just cops and firefighters and roads and shit!! Why do you hate those things?!

Posted by: The dumbest counter argument youll hear today at August 13, 2018 02:43 PM (O9JR8)

54 We're all Socialists Now.

Posted by: Newsweak at August 13, 2018 02:43 PM (vDqXW)

55 It will be. But it'll settle shit for a very long time.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 02:42 PM (nMj2X)

So you're suggesting I get the optic on the .223 sighted in at say, 100 yards?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:43 PM (37IEG)

56 Does socialism mean I can have three houses like Bernie Sanders?
Posted by: tu3031


No prole. Dachas are for the elite only.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 02:44 PM (nMj2X)

57 The economy under Trump is doing decently?
Time to start hating capitalism!

Posted by: wooga at August 13, 2018 02:44 PM (dWj6f)

58 Nothing really has changed except the honesty, as Ace implies. They always have thought this, but felt they should lie about it until recently.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 13, 2018 02:44 PM (39g3+)

59 48, well maybe. How about yours, your parents basement and still don't get why not Pelosi' s or MadMax's visitors rooms in their house.

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2018 02:44 PM (lxZ71)

60 So, the intersection of those two subsets, on a Venn Diagram would be marked as...

Clueless?
Posted by: Don Q. at August 13, 2018 02:42 PM (NgKpN)

....

Marked as "System-Fluid".....Xertialists.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 13, 2018 02:44 PM (+ypLs)

61

EM HOBO SMORGASBORD FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at August 13, 2018 02:44 PM (7AQC5)

62 Democrats always loved Communism. They just had to keep it under their hat. Pesky rumors about gulags and summary executions.

Posted by: torabora at August 13, 2018 02:44 PM (5nDlD)

63 So you're suggesting I get the optic on the .223 sighted in at say, 100 yards?
Posted by: DamnedYankee


300. Never let them have that much time to maneuver.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 02:45 PM (nMj2X)

64 ok, who are the 16% of Republicans who view socialism favorably? Black Marketeers?
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (jp0Bv)

--------

Your (R) elected officials, appointees and "thought leaders." It's the 16% of Republicans who matter in American politics.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 02:45 PM (AzW6q)

65 "Republicans very positive about capitalism; 16% positive on socialism"


I need to see a breakdown of this 16%. I'd have an easier time believing that most of that 16% are just deliberately messing with pollsters than they legitimately think socialism isn't a terrible idea.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 13, 2018 02:45 PM (KUaJL)

66 16% of Republicans favor socialism just means that the poll oversampled the GOP corporate donor class.

Posted by: Hands at August 13, 2018 02:45 PM (EzdLW)

67 47 38
I wonder how long before they start saying openly "of course we can
make socialism work when all those foreigners couldn't, because we are
better and smarter" rather than just having it sit there as an unsaid
underpinning.

Posted by: Bete, deplorable bot of melancholy at August 13, 2018 02:41 PM (Ojki1)

The stupid ones want free stuff.

The naive but smart ones think AI will solve the problem of distributing economic information.

The crooked but smart ones want free stuff.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 02:45 PM (RD7QR)

68 But socialism is just cops and firefighters and roads and shit!!
And everybody just gets paid a "living wage"! And we all contribute our "fair share"!

Posted by: tu3031 at August 13, 2018 02:45 PM (jDF8P)

69 So in 2016, 56% of Democrats had a positive view of free enterprise, and 58% had a positive view of socialism.

Either Democrats are mush-headed nincompoops who have no idea what words mean, or the polling methodology is a little screwy.

Or both.

Posted by: 114% at August 13, 2018 02:45 PM (sZRzw)

70 62
Democrats always loved Communism. They just had to keep it under their hat. Pesky rumors about gulags and summary executions.

Posted by: torabora at August 13, 2018 02:44 PM (5nDlD)
IF they'd tried it before people would have screamed they were colluding with the Russians.
Now that base is covered.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:45 PM (37IEG)

71 26 It's possible to view both capitalism and socialism positively, hence no math issue.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

Yes. For example, it's possible to have a positive opinion of having your eyes gouged out, but also have a positive opinion of NOT having your eyes gouged out.

97% of people approve of not having their eyes gouged out.

15% of people approve of having their eyes gouged out.

Which means that 13% are OK either way. "Gouge out my eyes, or don't gouge out my eyes -- I'm fine with either option."

Posted by: zombie at August 13, 2018 02:46 PM (c+2jX)

72 58 Nothing really has changed except the honesty, as Ace implies. They always have thought this, but felt they should lie about it until recently.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 13, 2018 02:44 PM (39g3+)


Yep, the Time of the Great Unmasking, continues.

Posted by: Don Q. at August 13, 2018 02:46 PM (NgKpN)

73 Get a bunch of man-on-street interviews, and film the dweebs answering "what is socialism," then edit snips into campaign ads this fall.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at August 13, 2018 02:46 PM (jwIJX)

74 "You didn't build that!!"

Posted by: Lizzy at August 13, 2018 02:46 PM (W+vEI)

75 This poll if accurate just confirms one of the three main defects of a Leftist.

The inability to identify cause and effect.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 13, 2018 02:46 PM (Cz+xD)

76 Younger Americans aren't as set on their political views as their parents or grandparents because socialism means different things to different generations.

For older people, socialism is associated with Communism and the Soviet Union and the Cold War. But the oldest Millennials were 8 years old when the Berlin Wall fell. They have never known a world where the Soviet Union exists. The connotations associated with the word "socialism" just don't exist with millennials.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 13, 2018 02:46 PM (Bdeb0)

77 >>And 90% have no idea what socialism is, other that free shit.



And that dreamboat Che fighting for revolution!!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (W+vEI)

78 Fallout from the Strzoker Pete firing:

Bobby Goodlatte
@rsg
I just gave the maximum allowed donation to Jennifer Lewis, a democrat running for my father's congressional seat. I've also gotten 5 other folks to commit to donate the max. 2018 is the year to flip districts - let's do this!


Bobby Goodlatte
@rsg
I'm deeply embarrassed that Peter Strzok's career was ruined by my father's political grandstanding. That committee hearing was a low point for Congress.

I assume Sharper Than a Serpent's Tooth's father is Congressman King Lear.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (+y/Ru)

79 >>>not two years at BumFvck community college.

That's where I got my Associates Degree in Taint Sciences.

Posted by: wooga at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (dWj6f)

80 And he is still considered a face for the Dems.

None of this should be surprising.
Posted by: blaster


A very stupid face. The face of a weird old man shouting at the sky.
Some people think he is the greatest thing ever.

May they get a dose of socialism, good and hard.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (vcOmj)

81 Dems are finally admitting they don't want to work. When San Fran Nan said with Obamacare now everyone (Dems) can stop work and pursue their hobbies was the tip-off.

Posted by: Lester at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (LfJIn)

82 300. Never let them have that much time to maneuver.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 02:45 PM (nMj2X)I'm really not anticipating the soy arugula eaters being very fast on closing the distance.But at my age you're right, 300 yards is a way better range to start the dance.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (37IEG)

83 Can we make socialism work?

YES! WE! CAN!

Posted by: 2008 On Voicemail at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (vDqXW)

84 So we are looking at crappily run government happy fun camps as opposed to efficient privately run happy fun camps?

Which would be better to survive in and eventually break out? Head scratcher.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (e1mEI)

85 If Putin was the head of The Soviet Union I'm thinking the Dems give him lots of lovin'.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 13, 2018 02:48 PM (nBr1j)

86 So its okay now to call then commie pinko fags?

Posted by: colfax mingo at August 13, 2018 02:48 PM (NgPkP)

87 But the oldest Millennials were 8 years old when the Berlin Wall fell. They have never known a world where the Soviet Union exists.

------

I was 6. But I'm keenly aware of the world with Communism - no thanks whatsoever to the public schools, who have taken every pain to erase the history of collectivism around the world.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 02:48 PM (AzW6q)

88 Finally they admit it! I am not surprised, since 2016 it's becoming more evident and less hidden. Also with the #WalkAway crowd leaving and the non-Socialists libs like my parents growing old and eventually passing away, the angry young men and women are coming to the front.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 13, 2018 02:48 PM (W+kMI)

89 That 16% is likely Republicans who found out that Trump was against Socialism...

Posted by: H Badger at August 13, 2018 02:48 PM (n/0Nw)

90 To 99% of these people all it means is "Free College and Free Abortions".

F*** 'em.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 02:48 PM (UnA8+)

91 86 So its okay now to call then commie pinko fags?
Posted by: colfax mingo at August 13, 2018 02:48 PM (NgPkP)

Like I ever stopped...

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 02:49 PM (RD7QR)

92 16% of Republicans favor socialism just means that the poll oversampled the GOP corporate donor class.
Posted by: Hands


Henry Ford favored socialism near the end of his life, because he wanted Ford Motor Company enshrined as a permanent fixture as a pre-eminent car company in America.....forever.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 13, 2018 02:49 PM (vcOmj)

93 For older people, socialism is associated with Communism and the Soviet Union and the Cold War. But the oldest Millennials were 8 years old when the Berlin Wall fell. They have never known a world where the Soviet Union exists. The connotations associated with the word "socialism" just don't exist with millennials.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 13, 2018 02:46 PM

This. I asked daughter-in-law if she had ever read anything by Solzhenitsyn.

''Who?'', she replied.

"You know that Nobel Prize winning author who described the horrors of socialism/communism?"

* crickets *

They see the world through the crystal clear prism of ignorance.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 13, 2018 02:49 PM (LOgQ4)

94 So in 2016, 56% of Democrats had a positive view of free enterprise

LOL.

56% of Democrats think that "free enterprise" means being given free shit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 13, 2018 02:50 PM (OYwKq)

95
And that dreamboat Che fighting for revolution!!



Posted by: Lizzy at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (W+vEI)
You mean heroic "Don't shoot! I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!" Che?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:50 PM (37IEG)

96 I had this discussion with a fellow just last night.

Basically we arrived at the conclusion that liberals are personally capitalistic.

If you ask a liberal if they think their personal income should be equally distributed along a median line, they oppose it,

But for the rest of you f*ckers its a great idea.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 13, 2018 02:50 PM (+ypLs)

97
George Soros must be smiling with his evil little grin.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 13, 2018 02:50 PM (hECVl)

98 .....and the non-Socialists libs like my parents growing old and eventually passing away, the angry young men and women are coming to the front.
Posted by: exdem13

Angry? Perhaps.

Stupid? Fer shure.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 13, 2018 02:50 PM (vcOmj)

99 83 Can we make socialism work?

YES! WE! CAN!
Posted by: 2008 On Voicemail

Socialism is a totally viable economic system. It surely shall succeed!

Posted by: 1840 handwritten note written with a goose quill, found in a time capsule at August 13, 2018 02:50 PM (c+2jX)

100 56% of Democrats think that "free enterprise" means being given free shit.
Or think it has something to do with Star Trek.

Posted by: tu3031 at August 13, 2018 02:51 PM (jDF8P)

101 83
Can we make socialism work?



YES! WE! CAN!

Posted by: 2008 On Voicemail at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (vDqXW)
You can really expect that to be chanted in it's native language. Which isn't English.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:51 PM (37IEG)

102 BTW Leftards outing yourselves as Socialists does not guarantee a Blue Wave this year. May actually wake up some sleepy Independents and Republicans and send them to the polls to shut you down.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 13, 2018 02:51 PM (W+kMI)

103 Well, the more they cover their preference for fascism over civil rights, the less blanket they have to cover their socialism.

Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2018 02:51 PM (vDqXW)

104 Wouldn't true 100 percent socialism mean there would not be any private education? Harvard would be run by the gummint?

Tell that to the leftists, see how they feel about it.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at August 13, 2018 02:51 PM (jwIJX)

105 If you ask a liberal if they think their personal income should be equally distributed along a median line, they oppose it,

But for the rest of you f*ckers its a great idea.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger


I WANT YOUR I-PHONE!!!!

See how that works.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 13, 2018 02:51 PM (vcOmj)

106 Basically we arrived at the conclusion that liberals are personally capitalistic.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 13, 2018 02:50 PM (+ypLs)

To be more precise, the Leftist credo is:

"What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine."

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 13, 2018 02:51 PM (OYwKq)

107 106 "What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine."

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 13, 2018 02:51 PM (OYwKq)

"Up to and including your blood."

Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 02:52 PM (UnA8+)

108 Good Lord I'm sick of the -ists and isms words.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at August 13, 2018 02:52 PM (21Sa0)

109 Well, time to go home and cook something tasty.

See you all tomorrow, maybe.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 13, 2018 02:53 PM (kqsXK)

110 George Soros must be smiling with his evil little grin.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 13, 2018 02:50 PM (hECVl)

-------

How old is the leathery old Appolyon, anyway? 160? The Devil sure does look out for his own.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 02:53 PM (AzW6q)

111 It's almost 3:00 ET. Has Little Miss Communist From The Bronx said anything stupid today?

Posted by: tu3031 at August 13, 2018 02:53 PM (jDF8P)

112 106 Basically we arrived at the conclusion that liberals are personally capitalistic.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 13, 2018 02:50 PM (+ypLs)

To be more precise, the Leftist credo is:

"What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine."
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 13, 2018 02:51 PM (OYwKq)


Socialism is like being Married?

Posted by: Don Q. at August 13, 2018 02:53 PM (NgKpN)

113 To be more precise, the Leftist credo is:

"What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine."
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair



Ahhhhh. The older sibling gambit.

Yeah. FTS.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 02:53 PM (nMj2X)

114 Anyone read the 2016 Year in Review from the mostly apolitical, pox-on-all-their-houses Dave Barry? He had the best take on this I've seen yet:

"Clinton faces an unexpectedly strong challenge from Bernie Sanders, a feisty 217-year-old Vermont senator with a message of socialism, but the good kind of socialism where everybody gets a lot of free stuff, not the kind where starving people fight over who gets the lone remaining beet at the co-op."

Posted by: JPS at August 13, 2018 02:53 PM (xCyVD)

115 My Father LT Colonel Nevergiveup is turning over in his grave. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 13, 2018 02:53 PM (Lg2h/)

116 How old is the leathery old Appolyon, anyway? 160? The Devil sure does look out for his own.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 02:53 PM (AzW6q)
literally the same age as Warren Buffet - different by a couple of days.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:53 PM (37IEG)

117 Well, yeah

As Laura Ingraham noted, we have witnessed a HUGE change in demographics in last 30 years. Import a bunch of Mexican peasantry (like 20+ million) and now adopt the Puerto Ricans and how can it be a surprise to anyone that Dems are now (more than ever) loving their Venezuelan socialism. These people are stupid. The Venezuelans aren't starving because of socialism, it's because of evil American Exxon and white patriarchy, they think. This is how peasants think. Education has been destroyed, get it thru your thick skulls.
"Equality" is a lie. Always was. Always will be. Limited government is preferred by Anglo-Saxons and nobody else.

Posted by: Fred V at August 13, 2018 02:53 PM (hnFv1)

118 I would let them go full socialist, the sooner the head to head the better

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2018 02:54 PM (lxZ71)

119 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (+y/Ru)

I'm sure the son has always been a Democrat/SJW. He can suck Ron Jr's dick.


Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 13, 2018 02:54 PM (Cz+xD)

120 >>They see the world through the crystal clear prism of ignorance.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic

Well, if we were paid more that could change.

Does anyone have any organic sunscreen?

Posted by: Your Local High School Teacher What Is On Summer Break at August 13, 2018 02:54 PM (r9UYA)

121 The fact that 16% of GOP respondents have favorable views of "socialism" is just one of the hints here that ignorance is really the issue. That is, so few people have any real idea what words mean or even what concepts mean, when it comes to things like this.


1 in 6 GOP-registered voters has a positive view of socialism? Really? Come on.


Posted by: rhomboid at August 13, 2018 02:54 PM (QDnY+)

122 As other pedants have noted, Capitalism is the commies' word for Liberty. The Democrats prefer Tyranny to Liberty is my take.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 13, 2018 02:54 PM (yQpMk)

123 This morning I read a Washington Post story (linked from the interesting stories page on Firefox) about the "new" surge of piracy in the Caribbean, most of which is occurring within motor launch range of Venezuela. So far, it's been small-beer robbery of local fishing vessels based in Trinidad-Tobago, but there's extortion for food and other basic necessities, too. Socialism works! If the government is so broke that it can't attack its neighbors, class warriors will board their small craft and rob working people for food and toilet paper.

Posted by: mrp at August 13, 2018 02:55 PM (Pqytn)

124 When at Wal-Mart, I think a quarter to a third of the store would have no problem killing me to take my shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 13, 2018 02:55 PM (osT35)

125 YES! WE! CAN!

Posted by: 2008 On Voicemail at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (vDqXW)
You can really expect that to be chanted in it's native language. Which isn't English.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:51 PM (37IEG)
---
Ja wir konnen.

Posted by: 1933 Tweeted at August 13, 2018 02:56 PM (vDqXW)

126 "Capitalism is the worst possible economic system -- except for all the others."
-- Winston Churchill

"Socialism is the worst possible economic system, (Awkward silence.) That's it. No snappy jokes at the end of the sentence. It's just the worst. Period."
-- guy with IQ over 85

Posted by: 1840 handwritten note written with a goose quill, found in a time capsule at August 13, 2018 02:56 PM (c+2jX)

127 not for nothing, I think that male, pale, and stale thing is incredibly racist. It's going on in England, right? Which makes it even dumber.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 13, 2018 02:56 PM (GoLZO)

128 OT - I remain intrigued by McCabe's texts, and the prospect this is one item Trump will move to release. Judicial Watch really wants them, which makes me think they are Gold - which makes sense anyway, given what we already know. Only thing Trump has explicitly hinted about declassifying.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 13, 2018 02:56 PM (QDnY+)

129 YES! WE! CAN!

Posted by: 2008 On Voicemail at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (vDqXW)

Thank you satan.

Posted by: Barak Hussian Obama 2008 voicemail played backwards at August 13, 2018 02:56 PM (21Sa0)

130 You know what I miss about capitalism?

Food.

Posted by: Vinnie Zuela the Venezuelan at August 13, 2018 02:56 PM (0CuUa)

131 And hey, I been meaning to say - you guys ain't sending me my guaranteed minimum income fast enough. Get on it ya lazy buggers! I can't pay for this beer on my own you know.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:56 PM (37IEG)

132 When at Wal-Mart, I think a quarter to a third of the store would have no problem killing me to take my shit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 13, 2018 02:55 PM (osT35)
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How can you stand the stench of Trump support?!

Posted by: Demonlord Strzok at August 13, 2018 02:56 PM (vDqXW)

133 123 This morning I read a Washington Post story (linked from the interesting stories page on Firefox) about the "new" surge of piracy in the Caribbean, most of which is occurring within motor launch range of Venezuela. So far, it's been small-beer robbery of local fishing vessels based in Trinidad-Tobago, but there's extortion for food and other basic necessities, too. Socialism works! If the government is so broke that it can't attack its neighbors, class warriors will board their small craft and rob working people for food and toilet paper.
Posted by: mrp at August 13, 2018 02:55 PM (Pqytn)

So, basically, Venezuelan citizens are trying to emulate Somalia. Socialism, what can't it do!?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 02:57 PM (RD7QR)

134 The next time some commie Dem tells you socialism is the way to go, agree with them and say let's do it right now. If there's one man who could make it work, it's Donald Trump.

That should cure them.

Posted by: Marmo - yes, I am entertained, thank you very much at August 13, 2018 02:57 PM (fq72/)

135 Socialism always seems to spawn in a meadow on a warm summer day and die in a sewer, in January, frozen and starving.

Why is that?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 13, 2018 02:57 PM (ymnmz)

136 I'd like to meet one of the 16% of Republicans who support socialism. I'm not saying the poll is flawed -- it's bogus.

Posted by: Octopussy at August 13, 2018 02:57 PM (CjhG2)

137 Socialism -- now less than ever!

Posted by: zombie at August 13, 2018 02:58 PM (c+2jX)

138 The big news was the 92% support for fascism

Posted by: Huck Follywood, grim coffee drinker at August 13, 2018 02:58 PM (ULoJS)

139 125
YES! WE! CAN!



Posted by: 2008 On Voicemail at August 13, 2018 02:47 PM (vDqXW)

You can really expect that to be chanted in it's native language. Which isn't English.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:51 PM (37IEG)

---

Ja wir konnen.

Posted by: 1933 Tweeted at August 13, 2018 02:56 PM (vDqXW)
Now I was thinking "Si Se Pedos!" actually

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:58 PM (37IEG)

140 Dems have been bigots for over 150 years. Only some are admitting it today.

Posted by: Rod at August 13, 2018 02:58 PM (pQSJF)

141 How old is the leathery old Appolyon, anyway? 160? The Devil sure does look out for his own.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 02:53 PM (AzW6q)
*********************
He just turned 88 yesterday.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 13, 2018 02:58 PM (hECVl)

142 This morning I read a Washington Post story (linked from the interesting stories page on Firefox) about the "new" surge of piracy in the Caribbean, most of which is occurring within motor launch range of Venezuela. So far, it's been small-beer robbery of local fishing vessels based in Trinidad-Tobago, but there's extortion for food and other basic necessities, too. Socialism works! If the government is so broke that it can't attack its neighbors, class warriors will board their small craft and rob working people for food and toilet paper.
Posted by: mrp at August 13, 2018 02:55 PM (Pqytn)


I hear Johnny Depp is looking for work.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 13, 2018 02:58 PM (KUaJL)

143 So, basically, Venezuelan citizens are trying to emulate Somalia. Socialism, what can't it do!?


With cocaine instead of khat.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 13, 2018 02:58 PM (yQpMk)

144 Papel merde en la bolsa, culero!

Posted by: Maduro's pirate's at August 13, 2018 02:58 PM (osT35)

145 Good Lord I'm sick of the -ists and isms words.
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at August 13, 2018 02:52 PM (21Sa0)
---
Anti-ismist!

Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2018 02:59 PM (vDqXW)

146 Democracies only last about 200 years. Happens every time.

We're fucked unless we can beat back the lazy bastard millennial onslaught of retard.

Posted by: Sponge at August 13, 2018 02:59 PM (Zz0t1)

147 Can we see what percentage of Republicans sexually identify as transsexual lesbian attack helicopters?

Because that might shed some light on the 16% statistic.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 13, 2018 02:59 PM (KUaJL)

148 Lefties love to point to Denmark or Sweden as their socialist paradises. Odd how shitholes like out and proud socialist places like Venezuela aren't really socialist

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 13, 2018 03:00 PM (OLCnA)

149 Choo choo, motherfuckers!

Posted by: The Purges at August 13, 2018 03:00 PM (yQpMk)

150 135 Socialism always seems to spawn in a meadow on a warm summer day and die in a sewer, in January, frozen and starving.

Why is that?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 13, 2018 02:57 PM (ymnmz)

Socialism forgot to pack for a long stay? Also, stupidity and ignorance of history.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 03:00 PM (RD7QR)

151 16% of Republicans are very, very confused.

Posted by: arminius at August 13, 2018 03:00 PM (382aI)

152 Honestly, I guess if I smoked dope around the clock, had both of my arms covered in tats, had shower curtain grommets implanted in my ear, had my hair dyed unnatural colors and had an IQ somewhere south of 90, I think it would be a logical, selves serving move for me to support socialism.

If your career earnings prospects are south of the median per capita annual income, it's probably your best option.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 13, 2018 03:01 PM (+ypLs)

153 150
135 Socialism always seems to spawn in a meadow on a warm summer day and die in a sewer, in January, frozen and starving.



Why is that?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 13, 2018 02:57 PM (ymnmz)

Wow, socialism has a lot in common with every leader who ever invaded Russia!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:01 PM (37IEG)

154 Those who haven't learned from history are doomed to be Democrats.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 13, 2018 03:01 PM (yQpMk)

155 145 Good Lord I'm sick of the -ists and isms words.
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at August 13, 2018 02:52 PM (21Sa0)
---
Anti-ismist!
Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2018 02:59 PM (vDqXW)

All. Of. Them.

Posted by: Barak Hussian Obama 2008 voicemail played backwards at August 13, 2018 03:01 PM (21Sa0)

156 OK-- Here is a thought experiment.


What would have to be in a McCabe text or email that would make guys lie Muderin Joe just throw in the towel on defending the mess.

Tingles?

That nice fellow Maddow?



Seriously, are there any words that McCabe could say that would make them realize it's all indefensible? (Yeah. Maddow nothing , I know)

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 13, 2018 03:02 PM (ymnmz)

157 Repeated from last thread, OT: any WI morons here to put us some knowledge on whether Nicholson 1) can get the nomination 2) can beat the idiot Dem incumbent in the Senate race? Would be part of the Max Red Wave in the Senate, if it happens. Another one of the states never mentioned in the Senate sweepstakes (maybe for a reason, that's why I axe).

Posted by: rhomboid at August 13, 2018 03:02 PM (QDnY+)

158 I'd like to meet one of the 16% of Republicans who support socialism. I'm not saying the poll is flawed -- it's bogus.
Posted by: Octopussy at August 13, 2018 02:57 PM (CjhG2)

paging Mr Ryan, Mr Katshit, Mr Flake
paging Mr Ryan, Mr Katshit, Mr Flake
paging Mr Ryan, Mr Katshit, Mr Flake

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 13, 2018 03:02 PM (Lg2h/)

159 Good Lord I'm sick of the -ists and isms words.
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at August 13, 2018 02:52 PM (21Sa0)

Everybody's talking 'bout Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism
This-ism, that-ism, ism-ism...

Posted by: John Lennon at August 13, 2018 03:02 PM (y8Foj)

160 100% of people who pick up the phone to answer polls are stupid enough to pick up the phone when an unidentified number calls.

Posted by: tu3031 at August 13, 2018 03:02 PM (jDF8P)

161 138 The big news was the 92% support for fascism
Posted by: Huck Follywood, grim coffee drinker at August 13, 2018 02:58 PM (ULoJS)

Well, the fascists made the trains run on time and our lefties are crazy about trains, so it just follows. Also, snappy uniforms.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 03:02 PM (RD7QR)

162 145 Good Lord I'm sick of the -ists and isms words.
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at August 13, 2018 02:52 PM (21Sa0)
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Anti-ismist!
Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2018 02:59 PM (vDqXW)
------------------------------------------------------------

*golf clap*

Well done, Axeman.

Posted by: Marmo - yes, I am entertained, thank you very much at August 13, 2018 03:02 PM (fq72/)

163 I just want to say one word to you. Just one word.

Are you listening?

Prison Camps.

There's a great future in Prison Camps. Think about it. Will you think about it?

Posted by: Joseph Stalin at August 13, 2018 03:02 PM (z7pBf)

164 All we are saying
Is give Trump a Chance....

Posted by: John Lennon at August 13, 2018 03:03 PM (y8Foj)

165 124 When at Wal-Mart, I think a quarter to a third of the store would have no problem killing me to take my shit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 13, 2018 02:55 PM (osT35)

I'm actually torn over whether everybody SHOULD have no problem with it or not.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 03:03 PM (UnA8+)

166 Biggest news is the 100% support of facist groups like antifa, blm and the Occasional-Kotex campaign.

Posted by: Sponge at August 13, 2018 03:03 PM (Zz0t1)

167 Everyone thinks just a little socialism can't be bad, maybe just soak the rich a little, make corporations pay their share and we can get some freebies, no need for gulags or murders that no body is found.

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2018 03:03 PM (lxZ71)

168 164
All we are saying

Is give Trump a Chance....

Posted by: John Lennon at August 13, 2018 03:03 PM (y8Foj)
Wasn't that really a song about garden vegetables?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:04 PM (37IEG)

169 I was trying to explain socialism to the occupants in the gun room ( I may or may not have) on Sunday, but the pistols just couldn't get why I have so many more rounds for my ARs and wouldn't pay attention.

Posted by: rammajamma at August 13, 2018 03:04 PM (AjNMO)

170 And 57% of Democrats don't believe in the Constitution either.

They believe in a hacking, spitting, coughing document that should die an be replaced.

This is only news to the same media who took the poll.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2018 03:04 PM (Eposh)

171 I mean look at how all the most popular computer games right now are Massive-Multiplayer Last-Man-Standing Battle Royales.

It seems there might just be a message here about what the Zeitgeist is...

Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 03:05 PM (UnA8+)

172 The cat has scalded the dog. The cat has scalded the dog. pzzzt brsssst zit pop crackle

Posted by: CNN byline at August 13, 2018 03:05 PM (5nDlD)

173 the conclusion i draw from the poll data is that the American public is getting dumber and less educated as time goes by.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 13, 2018 03:05 PM (l8BL3)

174 171
I mean look at how all the most popular computer games right now are Massive-Multiplayer Last-Man-Standing Battle Royales.



It seems there might just be a message here about what the Zeitgeist is...

Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 03:05 PM (UnA8+)
Wait until they discover their re-spawn site is hell. At least there won't be campers.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:05 PM (37IEG)

175 169 I was trying to explain socialism to the occupants in the gun room ( I may or may not have) on Sunday, but the pistols just couldn't get why I have so many more rounds for my ARs and wouldn't pay attention.
Posted by: rammajamma at August 13, 2018 03:04 PM (AjNMO)

Just stroke the pistols and coo about rate of fire. They'll calm down.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 03:05 PM (RD7QR)

176 Aretha Franklin is almost gone. They say she's done to 86 lbs. and is surrounded by family....

Posted by: John Lennon at August 13, 2018 03:06 PM (y8Foj)

177 Snoopy is the Red Baron. Snoopy is the Red Baron.


Posted by: Offshoe Pirate Radio at August 13, 2018 03:06 PM (ymnmz)

178 Cuthbert I don't regard any of those people as either serious or intelligent or rational on these topics, so it doesn't matter. Only thing that matters will be convictions, pleas, and suicides.


Which sort of hints at the much deeper crisis here. That *any* hint of the behavior we have seen documented to have occurred as a regular thing would not result in a near-unanimous, bipartisan outrage and reaction, from the outset. Civic culture is pretty much collapsed, and probably most of the political class (and much of the rank/file govt. employee class) now simply has no American mindset or values, or sense of responsibility.


So the convictions, pleas, and suicides might not even mark a change of direction. Just a speed bump.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 13, 2018 03:06 PM (QDnY+)

179
the conclusion i draw from the poll data is that the American public is getting dumber and less educated as time goes by.\

We're counting on it!

Posted by: Your Friends at Vox at August 13, 2018 03:07 PM (jDF8P)

180 175
169 I was trying to explain socialism to the occupants in the gun room (
I may or may not have) on Sunday, but the pistols just couldn't get why
I have so many more rounds for my ARs and wouldn't pay attention.

Posted by: rammajamma at August 13, 2018 03:04 PM (AjNMO)

My pistols don't complain because most of them share the same caliber as the carbines.

Now everyone is jealous of the .308s though. Because I love them long time.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:07 PM (37IEG)

181 its the return of the Vandals.

I see you have nice stuff. We like nice stuff too.

Give us your nice stuff.

So we don't have to bother with breaking a nail or for that matter, thank you cards, we'll take it by government action.

Posted by: Vandals Today - Disgraceful! at August 13, 2018 03:07 PM (e5Oqf)

182 171
I mean look at how all the most popular computer games right now are Massive-Multiplayer Last-Man-Standing Battle Royales.



It seems there might just be a message here about what the Zeitgeist is...

Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 03:05 PM (UnA8+)

Hey! Leave my World of Tanks out of this.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 13, 2018 03:07 PM (Bdeb0)

183 YES! WE! CAN!
Posted by: 2008

You can really expect that to be chanted in it's native language. Which isn't English.
Posted by: DamnedYankee

---

Ja wir konnen.
Posted by: 1933

Now I was thinking "Si Se Pedos!" actually
Posted by: DamnedYankee at

enya urang tiasa
Posted by: The Sudanese

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:07 PM (nMj2X)

184 173 going past 40 years of the pubic running through K-12 in Public Leftist Seminaries will do that.

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2018 03:07 PM (lxZ71)

185 The conclusion i draw from the poll data is that the American public is getting dumber and less educated as time goes by.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 13, 2018 03:05 PM (l8BL3)

Exactly. But I can't figure out what is more depressing--that fact, or the fact that it's largely by design.....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (y8Foj)

186 173 the conclusion i draw from the poll data is that the American public is getting dumber and less educated as time goes by.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 13, 2018 03:05 PM (l8BL3)

And which party gained complete control of the education system in this country sometime in the 1980's. This is not a coincidence.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (kUmUV)

187 Is it me or is the president struggling in front of the military? Im kind of wincing for him and not sure why.

Posted by: Heart at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (LIhNq)

188 Democrats seem to be in favor of anything that limits competition.

Posted by: Yawrate at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (U2SYP)

189
151 16% of Republicans are very, very confused.
Posted by: arminius at August 13, 2018 03:00 PM (382aI)

It's all in the questions.

Would you prefer socialism to literally Hitler?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (e1mEI)

190 And yet here we are, with the media screaming Russian collusion about Republicans.

Meanwhile Democrats have Captain Obvious trapped in an alleyway, where they are slowly beating him to death with recriminations.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (Eposh)

191 I will admit slavery had its advantages.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (2LelM)

192 Journolist is alive and well.

"Peter Strzok fired from the FBI for anti Trump tweets". Is today's verbatim meme.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (I16G8)

193 A FB acquaintance (hate having to be on it), posted a comic, '4 things you should be ashamed of believing in as an adult'. One of them was Santa Claus, forget the other two, the third was, "Corporate tax cuts make jobs and increase wages".
How do you combat that kind of stupid? And it's legion! =|

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (Gim9y)

194 The crooked but smart ones want free stuff.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 02:45 PM (RD7QR)

Which ones want the power to decide who gets what and how much? Cause total and ruthless power is the ultimate end. Oh and camps. Have they publicly said they want the camps yet?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (EPnrI)

195 Aretha Franklin is almost gone. They say she's done to 86 lbs. and is surrounded by family....

Posted by: John Lennon at August 13, 2018 03:06 PM (y8Foj)

Wow. Didn't know she was THAT sick. Prayers to her and the family. She's an American icon and will be missed.

Posted by: Sponge at August 13, 2018 03:09 PM (Zz0t1)

196 the conclusion i draw from the poll data is that the American public is getting dumber and less educated as time goes by.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 13, 2018 03:05 PM (l8BL3)

I saw that movie. Buy Brawndo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 13, 2018 03:09 PM (Lg2h/)

197 178
Cuthbert I don't regard any of those people as either serious or
intelligent or rational on these topics, so it doesn't matter. Only
thing that matters will be convictions, pleas, and suicides.





Which sort of hints at the much deeper crisis here. That *any* hint
of the behavior we have seen documented to have occurred as a regular
thing would not result in a near-unanimous, bipartisan outrage and
reaction, from the outset. Civic culture is pretty much collapsed, and
probably most of the political class (and much of the rank/file govt.
employee class) now simply has no American mindset or values, or sense
of responsibility.





So the convictions, pleas, and suicides might not even mark a change of direction. Just a speed bump.





Posted by: rhomboid at August 13, 2018 03:06 PM (QDnY+)


Well thanks for the buck up.
But yeah. If they weren't outraged by now, then nothing will change their calculus, I suppose.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 13, 2018 03:09 PM (ymnmz)

198 I saw Aretha Franklin and BB King for one of the New Orleans Jazz Fest night concerts in 93 or 94.

You knew you were in the presence of real talent.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 13, 2018 03:09 PM (xfb67)

199 the conclusion i draw from the poll data is that the American public is getting dumber and less educated as time goes by.

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 13, 2018 03:05 PM

'Everyone' knows that the only reason to have a land-line is because you might just get a lower rate on some sort of 'triple play' deal. 'Everyone' knows you never use that phone, but accept the fact that you're paying for something you won't use, and don't want.

Everyone else picks up the landline and answers the poll questions.

I have little use for the information those people tell pollsters.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 13, 2018 03:09 PM (LOgQ4)

200 OT: How is it not espionage to surreptitiously record the President?

Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2018 03:09 PM (vDqXW)

201 Is it me or is the president struggling in front of the military? Im kind of wincing for him and not sure why.
Posted by: Heart at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (LIhNq)

It's you.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 13, 2018 03:09 PM (Lg2h/)

202 Nothing is good enough for a true socialist.

Posted by: Vinnie Zuela the Venezuelan at August 13, 2018 03:10 PM (0CuUa)

203 194 The crooked but smart ones want free stuff.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 02:45 PM (RD7QR)

Which ones want the power to decide who gets what and how much? Cause total and ruthless power is the ultimate end. Oh and camps. Have they publicly said they want the camps yet?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (EPnrI)

Sure, camps, but they're happy fun camps with crafts and hobbies and rides! Who could be against that?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 03:10 PM (RD7QR)

204 193 A FB acquaintance (hate having to be on it), posted a comic, '4 things you should be ashamed of believing in as an adult'. One of them was Santa Claus, forget the other two, the third was, "Corporate tax cuts make jobs and increase wages".
How do you combat that kind of stupid? And it's legion! =|
Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (Gim9y)

"Don't believe in Santa Claus. He's a stupid old white man who promises you free shit if you're good. Now Bernie Sanders, that's someone you can believe in!"

Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 03:10 PM (UnA8+)

205 Oh and camps. Have they publicly said they want the camps yet?


Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (EPnrI)
Awww, who doesn't want to send their kid to summer camp at "Camp Gitcher Assbeat"

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:10 PM (37IEG)

206 Remember when Mitt Romney refused to say Obama had socialist tendencies in a GOP debate?

Because somehow saying a black man was a socialist was racist?

Reminds me of why saying "Obama is maybe a Muslim" is treated as an insult, while the media simultaneously tells us Muslims are super awesome.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 13, 2018 03:11 PM (UfkIY)

207 It's time to throw some charges Strzok's way, take up some of that time to keep him away from the talk show circuit

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2018 03:11 PM (lxZ71)

208 Aretha Franklin is almost gone. They say she's done to 86 lbs. and is surrounded by family....
Posted by: John Lennon at August 13, 2018 03:06 PM (y8Foj)

R-E-S-T-I-N-P-E-A-C-E

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 13, 2018 03:11 PM (Cz+xD)

209 195
Aretha Franklin is almost gone. They say she's done to 86 lbs. and is surrounded by family....



Posted by: John Lennon at August 13, 2018 03:06 PM (y8Foj)


Sounds like she should eat her family. just sayin'.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:11 PM (EPnrI)

210 UK Labour leader admits attending wreath-laying for Munich Olympic terrorists
Jeremy Corbyn says I don't think I was actually involved in ceremony held at graves of Black September members who murdered 11 Israelis in 1972, but Labour lawmaker says its the same thing; Where is the apology?

First he wasn't there. Then he wasn't there there

Lying cock sucker

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 13, 2018 03:11 PM (Lg2h/)

211 The Left always admires the 'success' of European socialism which has survived in nice homogeneous, white, k-selected, high trust, low population societies like Denmark and the Netherlands.

Ask Sweden how it works when a drastically different populace is thrown in the mix.

Posted by: McCool at August 13, 2018 03:11 PM (KvRqW)

212 194 Which ones want the power to decide who gets what and how much? Cause total and ruthless power is the ultimate end. Oh and camps. Have they publicly said they want the camps yet?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:08 PM (EPnrI)

The power to decree exactly when someone must die and how is the power they want.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 03:11 PM (UnA8+)

213 >>"Peter Strzok fired from the FBI for anti Trump tweets". Is today's verbatim meme.



Tweets --- or texts?

And the texts were more than simply anti-Trump, they were about getting Trump when he was in a position to do so.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 13, 2018 03:11 PM (W+vEI)

214 The democrat party admitting to hating capitalism. Is there anything that Trump cannot do?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 13, 2018 03:11 PM (pw+jk)

215 207
It's time to throw some charges Strzok's way, take up some of that time to keep him away from the talk show circuit

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2018 03:11 PM (lxZ71)


Charges? Like Drano in a film container?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 13, 2018 03:12 PM (ymnmz)

216 Aretha Franklin is almost gone. They say she's done to 86 lbs. and is surrounded by family....
Posted by: John Lennon at August 13, 2018 03:06 PM (y8Foj)

R-E-S-T-I-N-P-E-A-C-E

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 13, 2018 03:11 PM

well played

well f'n played

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 13, 2018 03:12 PM (ZQfW9)

217 And yet this is what Republicans could be beat by if they don't get off their asses and vote come November.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2018 03:12 PM (Eposh)

218 1. Democrats can't be racist. It's a Fact. Check it!

2. Polls lie.


3. Young people have no idea what socialism really is, outside of "free stuff."

Posted by: shibumi at August 13, 2018 03:12 PM (SbIX4)

219 I mean look at how all the most popular computer games right now are Massive-Multiplayer Last-Man-Standing Battle Royales.

Kind of like how we were SHOCKED about torturing terrorists, but Jack Bauer was tops in ratings....

Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2018 03:12 PM (Z5y53)

220 Sure, camps, but they're happy fun camps with crafts and hobbies and rides! Who could be against that?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 03:10 PM (RD7QR)

Well the Cliff of Doom ride sounds ominous.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:12 PM (EPnrI)

221 Does anybody know how/where Sandernista gets his money? (Other than wife's bank fraud).

So far as I can find out he failed at everything he tried until he entered politics. Then, miraculously, on the income of an elected official he has the money to buy 3 homes! Didn't realize public office paid so well.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at August 13, 2018 03:13 PM (GUMiN)

222 YES! WE! CAN!
Posted by: 2008

You can really expect that to be chanted in it's native language. Which isn't English.
Posted by: DamnedYankee

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Ja wir konnen.
Posted by: 1933

Now I was thinking "Si Se Pedos!" actually
Posted by: DamnedYankee at

enya urang tiasa
Posted by: The Sudanese
Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:07 PM (nMj2X)
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Bat yeung ach thveu ban

Posted by: Pol Pot. at August 13, 2018 03:13 PM (vDqXW)

223 Thank you nevergiveup! It started picking up after I posted that.

Posted by: Heart at August 13, 2018 03:13 PM (LIhNq)

224 Tweets --- or texts?

And the texts were more than simply anti-Trump, they were about getting Trump when he was in a position to do so.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 13, 2018 03:11 PM (W+vEI)

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Sorry, texts, not tweets.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 13, 2018 03:13 PM (I16G8)

225 Sure, camps, but they're happy fun camps with crafts and hobbies and rides! Who could be against that?
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Don't forget the cowboy poetry. Lots and lots of cowboy poetry!

Posted by: shibumi at August 13, 2018 03:13 PM (SbIX4)

226 #133
So, basically, Venezuelan citizens are trying to emulate Somalia. Socialism, what can't it do!?
#142

I hear Johnny Depp is looking for work.
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The WP article did mention (IIRC in the title) "Pirates in the Caribbean" and there was a solid comparison to Somalia. Actually, for the WP it was a straight-arrow news article. The Venezuelan economy with its 1,000,000% inflation rate and bankrupt economy was placed in context with the piracy surge. Well worth the read. Lots of military hardware and women smuggling going on too. So socialism is great for women's rights /s I think the Trump administration should look into a formal security arrangement with Trinidad-Tobaga, or at least consider sending US naval/coast guard assets to the area.

Posted by: mrp at August 13, 2018 03:14 PM (Pqytn)

227 So...if Strzok doesn't think he might have done something illegal - why does he need a GoFundMe site for his legal costs?


Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:14 PM (37IEG)

228 213
>>"Peter Strzok fired from the FBI for anti Trump tweets". Is today's verbatim meme.







Tweets --- or texts?



And the texts were more than simply anti-Trump, they were about getting Trump when he was in a position to do so.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 13, 2018 03:11 PM (W+vEI)


This.

I was just wondering this. The language of any quote these days needs to be neatly parsed.

Always point out that his texts said "I'll stop Trump" or whatever the exact words were, and then he followed up with actions that were outside the scope of standard procedures. And then the FBI hid the texts form congressional oversight.

Then give them a Derp face

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 13, 2018 03:15 PM (ymnmz)

229 Socialists always seem to push for paid college, the better to indoctrinate the little sweethearts. Soon, it will be crying for mandatory college. It's a win win. Indoctrination and teachers unions getting paid off. Now, an example of no college. Neighbor lady's grandson got his welding certificate a couple of months ago. It took him a week to sort through the job offers. He finally hired on with a boiler company in Texas who gave him a hiring bonus and a living large hourly with benefits. He just turned 21.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 13, 2018 03:15 PM (xzqr4)

230 Sure, camps, but they're happy fun camps with crafts and hobbies and rides! Who could be against that?

Only if AtC wasn't in charge ~shivers~

Posted by: wrg500 at August 13, 2018 03:15 PM (Bdeb0)

231 So I see we have some gamers on the thread. Trying to determine if my grandson, heavy gamer at the ripe age of 9, was talking about a video game the other day or his mother has actually introduced him to Christianity. Is there an Elijah in a video game with the same birthday as Jesus? I know this question sounds stupid but my grandchildren have had zero religion in their lives. I'm hoping he's referencing THE Elijah.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at August 13, 2018 03:15 PM (5vDKw)

232 If you have a 401(k) retirement plan, you are a Capitalist

Posted by: Neo at August 13, 2018 03:15 PM (e8kgV)

233 Or are his legal funds paying for the divorce lawyer he needs to protect him from his loving and cheated on wife?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:16 PM (37IEG)

234 1. Democrats can't be racist. It's a Fact. Check it!

2. Polls lie.


3. Young people have no idea what socialism really is, outside of "free stuff."
Posted by: shibumi


You will work at a job you don't like.
You will show up every day.
Failure to show up will result in a bullet to the base of your skull.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:16 PM (nMj2X)

235 24 And 90% have no idea what socialism is, other than free shit.*




*Unless you are a white man.
Posted by: Roland THTG at August 13, 2018 02:39 PM (xBSm0)

Right? If you're a white man, no free shit for you, even if you've been fleeced for years to pay for it and you're in a bad situation where you really need it n

Posted by: Insomniac at August 13, 2018 03:16 PM (NWiLs)

236 Thank you nevergiveup! It started picking up after I posted that.
Posted by: Heart at August 13, 2018 03:13 PM (LIhNq)

The Man goes non stop 20 hours a day. Cut him a break. And that does not count his tweeting. AND AND AND 95% of the fake media is lined up against him.

He's doing A-OK in my book

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 13, 2018 03:16 PM (Lg2h/)

237 227 - Because he and his lawyer know there are lots of gullible Leftists who will send cash his way.

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2018 03:17 PM (lxZ71)

238 The WP article did mention (IIRC in the title) "Pirates in the Caribbean" and there was a solid comparison to Somalia. Actually, for the WP it was a straight-arrow news article. The Venezuelan economy with its 1,000,000% inflation rate and bankrupt economy was placed in context with the piracy surge. Well worth the read. Lots of military hardware and women smuggling going on too. So socialism is great for women's rights /s I think the Trump administration should look into a formal security arrangement with Trinidad-Tobaga, or at least consider sending US naval/coast guard assets to the area.
Posted by: mrp at August 13, 2018 03:14 PM (Pqytn)

I love how if you want to get something analogous to 1M% inflation in physics, you basically need to go close to a black hole or shoot particles at each other at close to the speed of light, but to do it to this to an economy, all you have to do is put somebody in charge that thinks they're smarter than the public at managing their own money.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 13, 2018 03:17 PM (KUaJL)

239 Yeah, "Heart", it's probably you. Trump doesn't struggle in speaking, obviously, and while the enthusiasm he gets from the military audiences doesn't that Dubya received, it's understandable, given the changed circumstances.


Meanwhile, you probably don't want to review those classic comparison videos doing side/sides of Dubya and Obama in front of military crowds. I would advise against it, in your case.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 13, 2018 03:17 PM (QDnY+)

240 You will work at a job you don't like.

You will show up every day.

Failure to show up will result in a bullet to the base of your skull.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:16 PM (nMj2X)

Dad?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:17 PM (EPnrI)

241 Obviously the mask came off the left when Trump won.


There was a massive disturbance in the lefty force on election night. Like millions of voices were crying out in pain and anguish..........

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 13, 2018 03:17 PM (JUOKG)

242 The Venezuelan economy with its 1,000,000% inflation rate and bankrupt economy was placed in context with the piracy surge. Well worth the read. Lots of military hardware and women smuggling going on too.




They get to travel!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:17 PM (nMj2X)

243 So...if Strzok doesn't think he might have done something illegal - why does he need a GoFundMe site for his legal costs?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:14 PM (37IEG)

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I have not seen his campaign. Does it specify that it is for legal costs?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 13, 2018 03:17 PM (I16G8)

244 If those FBI "men" and presstitutes actually had any balls they would just descend on the White House and kill Trumphitler. They're wearing me out with my fingers in my ears.

Posted by: torabora at August 13, 2018 03:17 PM (5nDlD)

245 240 You will work at a job you don't like.

You will show up every day.

Failure to show up will result in a bullet to the base of your skull.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:16 PM (nMj2X)

Dad?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:17 PM (EPnrI)

LMAO!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 13, 2018 03:18 PM (NWiLs)

246 Back from chores for Mrs D.

I'm thinking a 9% drop in support for capitalism will likely correlate to an equal or greater drop in SAT scores.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2018 03:18 PM (0tfLf)

247 @233

There is no evidence that he was having an affair with Lisa Page.


A lovers story was concocted to cast clear conspiracy as "pillow talk."

Posted by: Kreplach at August 13, 2018 03:19 PM (1UR5/)

248 Democrats don't like private property and free enterprise (fuck you Marx, I'm not using your terms) because it takes power away from government.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 13, 2018 03:19 PM (NWiLs)

249 Socialists never run out of ZEROS. ZEROS on their money and their inflation rate. Food and toilet paper they run out of very early on.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 13, 2018 03:19 PM (pw+jk)

250
Right? If you're a white man, no free shit for you, even if you've been fleeced for years to pay for it and you're in a bad situation where you really need it n
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Oh, if you're a single white female without children, there are times you get the short end of the stick because "a married man with kids has a family to support, and you have a skittle shitting unicorn in your house that feeds you and pays your bills." So... not just white men. No free shit for single white women with no kids either.

Posted by: shibumi at August 13, 2018 03:19 PM (SbIX4)

251 Question to Democrats regarding a positive view of socialism:

Why?

I mean, what has changed? If anything the failures of socialism and the success of capitalism is even more apparent than they were 10 years ago. Socialism failures have been seen all over the world, in rich and poor countries. If socialism worked, the most dynamic and growing countries on earth would be Venezuela, or Cuba, or North Korea. There is an almost perfect correlation between the degree of socialism practiced and disaster.

And to those who point to Denmark as a success I have only one response - we ain't Danes. That is to say, the fact that one country can kinda, sorta get some version of socialism to work doesn't mean it can or will work here.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at August 13, 2018 03:20 PM (ABH6n)

252 LMAO!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 13, 2018 03:18 PM (NWiLs)

Dad taught "work ethic."

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:20 PM (EPnrI)

253 Posted by: shibumi at August 13, 2018 03:19 PM (SbIX4)

Sounds like you're talking about the workplace, not public assistance.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 13, 2018 03:20 PM (NWiLs)

254 245 240 You will work at a job you don't like.

You will show up every day.

Failure to show up will result in a bullet to the base of your skull.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:16 PM (nMj2X)

Dad?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:17 PM (EPnrI)

LMAO!
Posted by: Insomniac at August 13, 2018 03:18 PM (NWiLs)

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Thank God for humor.

Posted by: SMH at August 13, 2018 03:20 PM (EmDt7)

255 I'm thinking a 9% drop in support for capitalism will likely correlate to an equal or greater drop in SAT scores.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2018 03:18 PM (0tfLf)

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There is a fix for that, increase the maximum scores. See a 1600 now is like a 1000 was ten years ago.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 13, 2018 03:21 PM (pw+jk)

256 240 You will work at a job you don't like.

You will show up every day.

Failure to show up will result in a bullet to the base of your skull.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:16 PM (nMj2X)

Dad?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

Had to put food on the table somehow.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 13, 2018 03:21 PM (Bdeb0)

257 You will work at a job you don't like.
You will show up every day.
Failure to show up will result in a bullet to the base of your skull.

Posted by: rickb223

Huh. Except for that third part it's the story of most of my life.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, upgrades can suck at August 13, 2018 03:21 PM (AM1GF)

258 have not seen his campaign. Does it specify that it is for legal costs?





Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 13, 2018 03:17 PM (I16G
Yep, and living expenses. It seems the world owes Pete a living now.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:21 PM (37IEG)

259 And to those who point to Denmark as a success I have only one response - we ain't Danes. That is to say, the fact that one country can kinda, sorta get some version of socialism to work doesn't mean it can or will work here.
Posted by: Dean Wormer


And they ain't even close to making it work. At 60 or 70% in taxes? Now, come up with a standing army before we come in and take your shit.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:21 PM (nMj2X)

260 The Venezuelan economy with its 1,000,000% inflation rate and bankrupt economy was placed in context with the piracy surge. Well worth the read. Lots of military hardware and women smuggling going on too.


They get to travel!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:17

*****

A buddy's wife is from Venezuela. Totally Hawt.
So...yeah.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2018 03:21 PM (0tfLf)

261 What's that that Thomas Sowell said?

Something like, democratic socialism is the belief that it's greedy to want to keep your own money but it's not greedy to want someone else's money.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 13, 2018 03:22 PM (ytmNt)

262 Or are his legal funds paying for the divorce lawyer he needs to protect him from his loving and cheated on wife?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:16 PM (37IEG)

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These guys don't come cheap:

https://tinyurl.com/y9dabxbl

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 03:22 PM (AzW6q)

263 247 @233

There is no evidence that he was having an affair with Lisa Page.


A lovers story was concocted to cast clear conspiracy as "pillow talk."
Posted by: Kreplach

I think that came out during her closed door hearing.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 13, 2018 03:22 PM (Bdeb0)

264 Capitalism is simply a way for a society to determine what to do with scarce resources. It does this by having an auction for resources, carried on continuously every moment of every day. Socialism presumes that people, individuals, can decide this allocation process better than the auction. That individuals are smarter than the wisdom of crowds. That has been proven scientifically wrong for decades. No person, no matter how altruistic and intelligent, can make the number of decisions fast enough.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at August 13, 2018 03:22 PM (ABH6n)

265 You will work at a job you don't like.
You will show up every day.
Failure to show up will result in a bullet to the base of your skull.

You will live a life you don't like.
You will show up every day.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 13, 2018 03:22 PM (NWiLs)

266 Huh. Except for that third part it's the story of most of my life.
Posted by: Brother Cavil


Yeah. That's why separates capitalism from communism. The lack of a government bullet.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:22 PM (nMj2X)

267 The Venezuelan economy with its 1,000,000% inflation rate and bankrupt economy was placed in context with the piracy surge. Well worth the read. Lots of military hardware and women smuggling going on too.

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They are actually at 1Billion% inflation now. They chopped off 3 decimal places from their currence under Chavez.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 13, 2018 03:23 PM (I16G8)

268 259 And they ain't even close to making it work. At 60 or 70% in taxes? Now, come up with a standing army before we come in and take your shit.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:21 PM (nMj2X)

The Muslims are gonna beat you to that.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 03:23 PM (UnA8+)

269 The masks have dropped with the poll numbers.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 13, 2018 03:23 PM (ZWyZJ)

270 Right? If you're a white man, no free shit for you, even if you've been fleeced for years to pay for it and you're in a bad situation where you really need it n
Posted by: Insomniac at August 13, 2018 03:16 PM (NWiLs)

I have some moves I could teach you.

Posted by: Frank Gallagher at August 13, 2018 03:23 PM (Lk/fE)

271 Rhomboid, in my case, I have already viewed those comparisons. Your concern is noted Not sure where you were heading with you thinly veiled insult, but as a day one trump supporter, you are Peeing on the wrong leg.

I was simply asking a question about this particular speech.

Posted by: Heart at August 13, 2018 03:23 PM (LIhNq)

272 I prefer to use the term "Free Market" instead of "capitalism."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 13, 2018 03:24 PM (pw+jk)

273 You will live a life you don't like.
You will show up every day.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 13, 2018 03:22 PM


Buddha?

Posted by: Hands at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (EzdLW)

274

Now I'm curious as to how the grade school+ books define socialism and capitalism. School books for kids are being constantly rewritten, history books and the rest.

The publishers of school books need to be replaced. It starts there with the teachers adhering to the changes.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (sdl8C)

275 272
I prefer to use the term "Free Market" instead of "capitalism."


Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 13, 2018 03:24 PM (pw+jk)
Ah, it's your fault! See, they see "free" in Free Market and assume...well....
Free summer squash for everyone!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (37IEG)

276 Yep, and living expenses. It seems the world owes Pete a living now.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:21 PM (37IEG)

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What is this pricks goal amount?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (I16G8)

277 272 I prefer to use the term "Free Market" instead of "capitalism."
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 13, 2018 03:24 PM (pw+jk)

Didn't socialists come up with the term "capitalism" in the first place? So yeah, I have no issue refusing to accept their terms in the debate.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (KUaJL)

278 Come to think of it, the WP's Caribbean piracy article's hardest punch was delivered by the extensive collection of photographs of Trinidad-Tobago fishermen and people who were victims of the Venezuelan pirates. These are not sailors aboard yachts or galleons, but poor, barefoot people who make their living catching fish for the local markets. That Venezuelan thieves have to rob the poor to feed their own selves and families is significant evidence of what socialism has done to Venezuela.

Posted by: mrp at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (Pqytn)

279 And they ain't even close to making it work. At 60 or 70% in taxes? Now, come up with a standing army before we come in and take your shit.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:21 PM

******

Putin having imilar thoughts I bet.


And besides 60% taxes, take away North Sea oil and they'll tank faster than Antiifa thug in a redneck bar.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (0tfLf)

280 273 You will live a life you don't like.
You will show up every day.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 13, 2018 03:22 PM


Buddha?
Posted by: Hands at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (EzdLW)

Parkay.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (NWiLs)

281 Had to put food on the table somehow.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 13, 2018 03:21 PM (Bdeb0)

Yep. dad worked and drank hard. Two hard jobs sometimes.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (EPnrI)

282 I prefer to use the term "Free Market" instead of "capitalism."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 13, 2018 03:24 PM (pw+jk)
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So do I. Two fewer syllables.

Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (vDqXW)

283 149 Choo choo, motherfuckers!

Posted by: The Purges
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And this is why you read ALL the comments. Choo Choo indeed!

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at August 13, 2018 03:26 PM (9ks3L)

284 Nobody has to use Marx's made-up word "Capitalism".

Posted by: Axeman at August 13, 2018 03:26 PM (vDqXW)

285 The masks have dropped with the poll numbers.



Posted by: Surfperch at August 13, 2018 03:23 PM

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You ain't kidding......the Generic Congressional poll had the democrats up by 17+ in January and now they are at 3.9+. Typically democrats need ~4-5+ just to keep the seats they have now due to gerrymandering.


That's gonna go even lower when everyone starts polling likely voters, not just registered voters.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 13, 2018 03:26 PM (JUOKG)

286 The Go Fund Me is for the sprawling villa in a non-extradition country.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 13, 2018 03:26 PM (osT35)

287 Buddha?
Posted by: Hands at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (EzdLW)

Parkay.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (NWiLs)

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I miss those commercials.

Posted by: SMH at August 13, 2018 03:27 PM (EmDt7)

288 Sounds like you're talking about the workplace, not public assistance.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 13, 2018 03:20 PM

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You are correct sir.

However, I don't know how much assistance you can get if you're a female of working age without kids. I'm guessing... not much.

Posted by: shibumi at August 13, 2018 03:27 PM (SbIX4)

289 Traitors and their fools.

Posted by: Avery at August 13, 2018 03:27 PM (iqXc8)

290 YES! WE! CAN!
Posted by: 2008
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You can really expect that to be chanted in it's native language. Which isn't English.
Posted by: DamnedYankee
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Ja wir konnen.
Posted by: 1933
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Now I was thinking "Si Se Pedos!" actually
Posted by: DamnedYankee at

enya urang tiasa
Posted by: The Sudanese
Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:07 PM
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Bat yeung ach thveu ban
Posted by: Pol Pot. at August 13, 2018 03:13 PM

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Oui, nous pouvons

Posted by: Zombie Robespierre at August 13, 2018 03:27 PM (EzdLW)

291 274




Now I'm curious as to how the grade school+ books define socialism
and capitalism. School books for kids are being constantly rewritten,
history books and the rest.



The publishers of school books need to be replaced. It starts there with the teachers adhering to the changes.





Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 13, 2018 03:25 PM (sdl8C)
Low the many years past when I was reading a math text to help with homework there was a section covering global warming, which had noting to do with the section content and wasn't used as an example.The lesson ended because I went on a tirade about MATH not having a damned thing to do with global warming.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:27 PM (37IEG)

292 Majority of voters credit Trump for economy

WZ - http://tinyurl.com/y7mkv7mu


Posted by: McCool at August 13, 2018 03:28 PM (KvRqW)

293 This is another "oops, I fell and my dick accidentally stuck in you" story, isn't it.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2018 03:29 PM (Eposh)

294 But Socialism works in, like, Sweden and Finland!!!!1111!1!1 - every leftist in, like, ever.

Sure, in (very) small, ethnically homogeneous (until recently) countries with an easily nationalizable industry (energy/oil) to fleece, and with populations predisposed to hard work (because winter took care of their lazy people 5000 years ago), perhaps socialism can "work"

Now, let's talk about countries where any of those (small, ethnically homogeneous, population predisposed to hard work) are no longer the case, and tell me where socialism "works" no matter how loose your definition of the word "work" is.

Posted by: DocJ at August 13, 2018 03:29 PM (NYS7S)

295 $150,000 is what Strozk wants.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 13, 2018 03:30 PM (osT35)

296 293
This is another "oops, I fell and my dick accidentally stuck in you" story, isn't it.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2018 03:29 PM (Eposh)
Whoopie....is that you?

Posted by: Ted Danson, hotdog hurler at August 13, 2018 03:30 PM (37IEG)

297 Low the many years past when I was reading a math text to help with homework there was a section covering global warming, which had noting to do with the section content and wasn't used as an example.The lesson ended because I went on a tirade about MATH not having a damned thing to do with global warming.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:27 PM (37IEG)

School book publishers are a close-knit group. Very few can get anything past them.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 13, 2018 03:30 PM (sdl8C)

298 293 This is another "oops, I fell and my dick accidentally stuck in you" story, isn't it.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2018 03:29 PM (Eposh)

Well, the damn things just get in the way sometimes. Not our fault!

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 03:30 PM (RD7QR)

299 Aretha Franklin is a goddess. The embodiment of pure talent.

There's nobody else like that today.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2018 03:30 PM (Eposh)

300 "The connotations associated with the word "socialism" just don't exist with millennials".
This is why there should be more educational resources, history courses, and visits to the prisons and concentration camps. Everybody should visit Lubyanka and a gulag or two. It ought to be mandatory for those caught indulging in left-wing violence.

Posted by: PG at August 13, 2018 03:30 PM (gaxWu)

301 The publishers of school books need to be replaced. It starts there with the teachers adhering to the changes.

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Ya kidding? In Jefferson County, CO the newly-elected conservative school board pushed for history books that were less anti-American.

The teachers went on strike and practically ran riot until the board was recalled.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 03:30 PM (AzW6q)

302 283
149 Choo choo, motherfuckers!



Posted by: The Purges

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And this is why you read ALL the comments. Choo Choo indeed!

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at August 13, 2018 03:26 PM (9ks3L)

May have said this already. Cant remember. Heidi walked out of a meeting with her asshole boss. Under her breath...... "choo choo mutherfucker."

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:31 PM (EPnrI)

303 >>Now I'm curious as to how the grade school+ books define socialism
and capitalism. School books for kids are being constantly rewritten,
history books and the rest.



See: Howard Zinn's People's History of the United States

Posted by: Lizzy at August 13, 2018 03:31 PM (W+vEI)

304 301 Ya kidding? In Jefferson County, CO the newly-elected conservative school board pushed for history books that were less anti-American.

The teachers went on strike and practically ran riot until the board was recalled.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 03:30 PM (AzW6q)

Oh, for when School Board election platforms where I lived consisted of little more than "I'm going to throw more money at the football team!".

Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 03:31 PM (UnA8+)

305 295
$150,000 is what Strozk wants.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 13, 2018 03:30 PM (osT35)


That's a lot of BJ's

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 13, 2018 03:32 PM (ymnmz)

306 Majority of voters credit Trump for economy

WZ - http://tinyurl.com/y7mkv7mu

Posted by: McCool at August 13, 2018 03:28 PM (KvRqW)

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It is good to hear that the Libtard meme of "Obama teed it up for him" is not winning the day.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 13, 2018 03:32 PM (I16G8)

307 A lovers story was concocted to cast clear conspiracy as "pillow talk."

Posted by: Kreplach at August 13, 2018 03:19 PM (1UR5/)

My mistress' gums are nothing like the sun...

Posted by: Peter Strzokr at August 13, 2018 03:32 PM (sXefu)

308 They transitioned from "overt" to "crypto" and subverted the minds of generations of naive children.
Posted by: zombie at August 13, 2018 02:38 PM (c+2j

This was foretold in John A. Stormer's book, " None Dare Call It Treason." The Fabian Socialists have almost completed their long March through the institutions.

They control everything else. Now they just need to get enough people in Congress and take the White House.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at August 13, 2018 03:32 PM (R5lpX)

309 "The connotations associated with the word "socialism" just don't exist with millennials"

I blame their parents (my age cohort, in other words). I was continually amazed at how the parents of my kids' friends just showered them with cash and stuff - pretty much making sure their ever whim was provided for.

Lesson learned? Free shit falls from the sky if you whine loud enough.

Funny, most of my kids' friends are in their early-20's now and are learning that The Real World doesn't work that way - with predictable consequences (like, voting for Bernie "The World Owes You" Sandernista)

Posted by: DocJ at August 13, 2018 03:33 PM (NYS7S)

310 But Socialism works in, like, Sweden and Finland!!!!1111!1!1 - every leftist in, like, ever.

Sure, in (very) small, ethnically homogeneous (until recently) countries with an easily nationalizable industry (energy/oil) to fleece, and with populations predisposed to hard work (because winter took care of their lazy people 5000 years ago), perhaps socialism can "work"

Now, let's talk about countries where any of those (small, ethnically homogeneous, population predisposed to hard work) are no longer the case, and tell me where socialism "works" no matter how loose your definition of the word "work" is.
Posted by: DocJ at August 13, 2018 03:29 PM (NYS7S)

Add in the fact that both these societies don't have to contribute anything to their own national defense because there is a benevolent foreign superpower that is willing to protect them.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 13, 2018 03:33 PM (KUaJL)

311 Ya kidding? In Jefferson County, CO the newly-elected conservative school board pushed for history books that were less anti-American.

The teachers went on strike and practically ran riot until the board was recalled.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 03:30 PM (AzW6q)

Educators (young gen X and younger) and the MSM. True enemies of our country.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at August 13, 2018 03:33 PM (Lk/fE)

312 Add in the fact that both these societies don't have to contribute anything to their own national defense because there is a benevolent foreign superpower that is willing to protect them.

True.

For now.

Posted by: DocJ at August 13, 2018 03:34 PM (NYS7S)

313 310 Add in the fact that both these societies don't have to contribute anything to their own national defense because there is a benevolent foreign superpower that is willing to protect them.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 13, 2018 03:33 PM (KUaJL)

Considering how thoroughly the Muslim Hordes are conquering them, just what is this money we're throwing at their protection even good for?

Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 03:34 PM (UnA8+)

314 To paraphrase Churchill, capitalism produces unequal blessings and Socialism produces equal misery.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 13, 2018 03:34 PM (Cz+xD)

315 See: Howard Zinn's People's History of the United States
Posted by: Lizzy at August 13, 2018 03:31 PM (W+vEI)

thanks
I checked out the 1-star reviews on amazon

"But then, something really sinister happened. Zinn slowly but surely slid this book from a history of the oppressed to outright propaganda against anyone rich and anything capitalist."

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 13, 2018 03:34 PM (sdl8C)

316 24 And 90% have no idea what socialism is, other than free shit.*

I think it means taxing the bejesus out of minorities to provide free shit to white men.

That is what it means, isn't it?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 13, 2018 03:34 PM (YqDXo)

317 lol

Well, Strozk is almost there...

https://www.gofundme.com/new-suit-amp-tie-for-strzok

Posted by: SMH at August 13, 2018 03:35 PM (EmDt7)

318 Considering how thoroughly the Muslim Hordes are conquering them, just what is this money we're throwing at their protection even good for?
Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 03:34 PM (UnA8+)

Sweeden is at the cutting edge of anti-rape pamphlet research.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 13, 2018 03:35 PM (KUaJL)

319 May have said this already. Cant remember. Heidi walked out of a meeting with her asshole boss. Under her breath...... "choo choo mutherfucker."
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:31 PM

And she came here for emergency medical advice.

We are honored.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 13, 2018 03:35 PM (ctuyM)

320 They are actually at 1Billion% inflation now. They chopped off 3 decimal places from their currence under Chavez.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 13, 2018 03:23 PM (I16G

Only 1000000000%? Pikers!

Posted by: Zimbabwe at August 13, 2018 03:36 PM (ZWyZJ)

321 The teachers went on strike and practically ran riot until the board was recalled.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 03:30 PM (AzW6q)

A great opportunity to PATCO them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 13, 2018 03:36 PM (YqDXo)

322 >>>ok, who are the 16% of Republicans who view socialism favorably?<<<

My friendsh, we have a lot of the FAKE republicans in the media.

Posted by: Fritz at August 13, 2018 03:36 PM (2Mnv1)

323 Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 13, 2018 03:33 PM (KUaJL)

To be fair, Sweden does try to produce their own military weapons and equipment and are not part of NATO. But they do it with the knowledge that the USA is there to back them up and are responsible for their peacetime.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 13, 2018 03:37 PM (Cz+xD)

324 ok, who are the 16% of Republicans who view socialism favorably?

Millennials, I bet. They'll wake up sooner than the rest.

Posted by: DocJ at August 13, 2018 03:37 PM (NYS7S)

325 The lesson ended because I went on a tirade about MATH not having a damned thing to do with global warming.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:27 PM

Au contraire. 'Tis a fine introduction to the concept of the Fudge Factor.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 13, 2018 03:37 PM (ctuyM)

326 The one that slays me is parasites whining that the rich should "pay their fair share."

Hey, parasites, you're not paying jack shit. How about YOU start paying YOUR fair share?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 13, 2018 03:37 PM (YqDXo)

327 Oh, for when School Board election platforms where I lived consisted of little more than "I'm going to throw more money at the football team!".
Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 03:31 PM (UnA8+)

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Yeah... when I was a kid our big, issues-based school board election was based on how to structure a mill levy for our decrepit high school to be replaced, without raising the sales taxes above their historical rate of 1%.

Deep red county, as you might guess.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 03:38 PM (AzW6q)

328 >ok, who are the 16% of Republicans who view socialism favorably?
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Maybe they are of the "Socialism for thee, but not for me" types.
The one's who want to make money by selling shit to the people getting free money from the state.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 13, 2018 03:38 PM (y8Foj)

329 I was told there would be no mathz

Posted by: Woke Math Textbook Author at August 13, 2018 03:39 PM (EzdLW)

330 Au contraire. 'Tis a fine introduction to the concept of the Fudge Factor.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 13, 2018 03:37 PM (ctuyM)

Fudge factor = [correct answer]/[answer you actually got]

A multiplicative factor, of course.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 13, 2018 03:39 PM (YqDXo)

331 *wanders in*

I'm not suggestion that the Horde go in a muck about with Pro Publica on this.

I'm not suggesting the Horde doesn't either.

https://www.propublica.org/getinvolved/brett-kavanaugh-nationals-baseball-supreme-court


Man, this Millenial version of Borking is just so so so lame.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 13, 2018 03:39 PM (mf5HN)

332 301 Ya kidding? In Jefferson County, CO the newly-elected conservative school board pushed for history books that were less anti-American.

The teachers went on strike and practically ran riot until the board was recalled.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 03:30 PM (AzW6q)

until the board was recalled

And until that is no longer the case, the inmates will continue to run the asylum.

K12.com and home-schooling. The only answer.

Posted by: DocJ at August 13, 2018 03:39 PM (NYS7S)

333 And she came here for emergency medical advice.



We are honored.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 13, 2018 03:35 PM (ctuyM)

Lol. She reminds me that without the horde i may not be commenting today. I think when I was shaving my head to get at the wound as i was bleeding out and she commented "he looks like he has mange." That was pretty funny. .

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:40 PM (EPnrI)

334 Man, this Millenial version of Borking is just so so so lame.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 13, 2018 03:39 PM (mf5HN)

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Wow. How dumb.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 03:40 PM (AzW6q)

335 One issue is that people don't really understand what they are talking about when they say "socialism." They think socialism is Sweden or something similar, but those are really just high-tax welfare states. When an actual socialist says "socialism" he means nationalization of the means of production; when the average lunkhead on the street says "socialism" he means free health care and a UBI. But the pollsters aren't going to explain that.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at August 13, 2018 03:40 PM (RD7QR)

336 327 Yeah... when I was a kid our big, issues-based school board election was based on how to structure a mill levy for our decrepit high school to be replaced, without raising the sales taxes above their historical rate of 1%.

Deep red county, as you might guess.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 03:38 PM (AzW6q)

We have a guy here who runs (not only for school board, but also other local offices) on cancelling out the pensions. Of course, he never gains any traction.

The weird thing is, on every other issue, he's a flaming lefty.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 13, 2018 03:41 PM (UnA8+)

337 Man, this Millenial version of Borking is just so so so lame.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around.

Can someone Bork the Borkers? Subject ProPublica to its own medicine...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, upgrades can suck at August 13, 2018 03:41 PM (AM1GF)

338 Yeah... when I was a kid our big, issues-based school board election was based on how to structure a mill levy for our decrepit high school to be replaced, without raising the sales taxes above their historical rate of 1%.

Deep red county, as you might guess.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 03:38 PM (AzW6q)

Now California style is to put a bond issue on the ballot for the construction and maintenance of schools, and then when it passes, use the money to give the teachers a raise.

Then, in the next election, put ANOTHER bond issue on the ballot for the construction and maintenance of schools. ("This time we really mean it!")

Oh. OK.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 13, 2018 03:41 PM (YqDXo)

339 325
The lesson ended because I went on a tirade about MATH not having a damned thing to do with global warming.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:27 PM



Au contraire. 'Tis a fine introduction to the concept of the Fudge Factor.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 13, 2018 03:37 PM (ctuyM)
Heh, I was trying to teach them the 2+2 = 4 school of math, not the new "1 + 1 =2 + 1 = 3 + 1 = 31 but it's okay, you followed the steps" school of math.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:41 PM (37IEG)

340 imo, the "opposite of socialism" is individual liberty.

Capitalism happens in socialist countries ... but with even heavier (less liberty) burdens placed on the seller and buyer.

Socialism in the ideal is largely what we in America call capitalism, in many ways. We have tax incentives for some things, we have trade sanctions on some people, we supply the needs of the poor (even illegals). Our socialism manages our markets, supports the 2Big2Fail/Jail ... not based on Capitalism (which would have let them fail) ... but based on socialism (TheSystem is more important than the individual investor).
SocialismR'US. imo "socialism versus capitalism" is full of false pretense. Wrong argument. Liberty means freedom to fail, not obligation of the masses to support the failures (especially not the billionaire failures).

Posted by: illiniwek at August 13, 2018 03:41 PM (bT8Z4)

341 Nood lesbians.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2018 03:42 PM (nMj2X)

342 Isnt Rahm Emmanuel wanting to experiment with $500 a month guaranteed income? In addition to a 'tax credit'.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 13, 2018 03:42 PM (EPnrI)

343 Yeah... when I was a kid our big, issues-based
school board election was based on how to structure a mill levy for our
decrepit high school to be replaced, without raising the sales taxes
above their historical rate of 1%.



Deep red county, as you might guess.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 03:38 PM (AzW6q)



Now California style is to put a bond issue on the ballot for the
construction and maintenance of schools, and then when it passes, use
the money to give the teachers a raise.



Then, in the next election, put ANOTHER bond issue on the ballot for
the construction and maintenance of schools. ("This time we really mean
it!")



Oh. OK.


Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 13, 2018 03:41 PM

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That just ain't California....Connecticut was good at doing that too.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 13, 2018 03:42 PM (JUOKG)

344 Before we invade Venezuela, lets invade the DOJ, FBI and CIA first. Mmmkay?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 13, 2018 03:43 PM (2LelM)

345 Local girl makes good!

Stormy Daniels Confirmed For UK 'CELEBRITY BIG BROTHER'...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 13, 2018 03:43 PM (+y/Ru)

346 "Ariana is an engagement reporter at ProPublica, where she works to cultivate communities to inform our coverage."

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Idiocracy indeed.

Posted by: SMH at August 13, 2018 03:44 PM (EmDt7)

347 I'm not suggestion that the Horde go in a muck about with Pro Publica on this.

I'm not suggesting the Horde doesn't either.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 13, 2018 03:39 PM (mf5HN)

Pro Publica Communistica.

In the interests of truth in advertising.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 13, 2018 03:44 PM (YqDXo)

348 344 Before we invade Venezuela, lets invade the DOJ, FBI and CIA first. Mmmkay?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 13, 2018 03:43 PM (2LelM)

Idea: how about we have the DoJ, FBI, and CIA invade Venezuela, and then when they're gone, we cancel their passports?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 13, 2018 03:46 PM (YqDXo)

349 Lo the many years past when I was reading a math text to help with homework there was a section covering global warming, which had noting to do with the section content and wasn't used as an example.The lesson ended because I went on a tirade about MATH not having a damned thing to do with global warming.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 03:27 PM (37IEG)

I did that with the math textbook of one of Guevara spawn. In the margins of the four-color book they had little SJW crap such as a sketch of the first black female astronaut to take a crap in space, that sort of thing.

Oh, and they managed to wedge in a little math from time to time, too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 13, 2018 03:49 PM (YqDXo)

350 "ok, who are the 16% of Republicans who view socialism favorably?"
NeverTrumpers ... Bush/Romney/KrstalMeth ...

Posted by: illiniwek at August 13, 2018 03:49 PM (bT8Z4)

351
Idea: how about we have the DoJ, FBI, and CIA invade Venezuela, and then when they're gone, we cancel their passports?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 13, 2018 03:46 PM (YqDXo)

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LOL

Posted by: mrp at August 13, 2018 03:50 PM (Pqytn)

352 The most important aspect of the firing of somebody from the FBI is that they are no longer a federal agent who carries a gun and is protected by special purpose federal laws from assault.

Such people become normal assholes like the rest of us, and if somebody named say ... Bubba were to punch them in the nose - then Bubba would be charged with no more than simple assault and battery.

I don't condone the use of violence against anyone. Peter Strzok should be absolutely secure in his physical safety. He has as much right to that as any Klansman walking through Watts in the middle of the night does.


Posted by: An Observation at August 13, 2018 03:51 PM (3iUJw)

353 Stroke has created a Go Fund Me page. Unbelievable.


Posted by: Under Fire at August 13, 2018 03:53 PM (r9UYA)

354 If she has not appeared on The Ellen show at least three times--not authentic.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 13, 2018 03:58 PM (r9UYA)

355 116 How old is the leathery old Appolyon, anyway? 160? The Devil sure does look out for his own.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 13, 2018 02:53 PM (AzW6q)
literally the same age as Warren Buffet - different by a couple of days.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 13, 2018 02:53 PM (37IEG)

I have long said that George Soros is my canary in the coal mine for the wealthy developing secret longevity technologies. Each year he lives adds more credence to the idea. The one day George shows up as a 17 year old chinese boy with a nasty scar around the top and back of his skull.

Posted by: Keith at August 13, 2018 04:05 PM (USf3s)

356 >>>ok, who are the 16% of Republicans who view socialism favorably?

I'm surprised it's that small. It's easy to be against socialism until somebody starts going after YOUR government checks.

Posted by: Keith at August 13, 2018 04:08 PM (USf3s)

357 Googly and...

Socialism: "a political and economic theory of social organization that
advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange
should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

Capitalism: "an economic and political system in which a country's trade and
industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the
state."

theory of social organization vs. system; owned or regulated vs. controlled for profit; community as a whole vs. state

We have regulation so theoretically we are all socialists now?


Posted by: Undocumented at August 13, 2018 04:29 PM (5NMZN)

358 democratic socialists are really new deal democrats. find me one running for office who wants to nationalize general motors then we will talk. medicare for all free collage tuition. 15 dollar an hour wage may seem like communist revolution to you ;but that is because your libertarian conservative free market ideologs. this is the left form of populism.

Posted by: wammo at August 13, 2018 04:41 PM (IPvs3)

359 Leftists do not like capitalism because it frees normal people from dependence on government, and they cannot stand anyone who through their own efforts manages to be more succesful than the leftists who only obtain success by taking from those who actually produce.

Posted by: Pete at August 13, 2018 04:47 PM (MpdHx)

360 The Left is conducting a five pronged assault on White Western Culture. Insane ideas then gain traction.

- Multiculturalism.
- Feminism.
- Mass Immigration.
- Abortion.
- Dumbing down schools and teachers

And each prong is tipped with a poisonous Lie:

- Diversity is our strength
- Women don't need Men
- Islam is a religion of peace
- Unborn children are sub-human
- Everyone deserves a free public education

Posted by: Fred V at August 13, 2018 05:01 PM (hnFv1)

361 this is the left form of populism.


It manages to be impossible, unaffordable, and intolerable, all at once.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 13, 2018 06:36 PM (yQpMk)

362 Joe McCarthy warned us about these evil commies and the DIRTY DEMOCRATS just look at CLINTON (Both of them) as well as OBAMA this jackass needs sent to the Glue Factory

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at August 13, 2018 06:55 PM (wGqjj)

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