Mid-Morning Open Thread

At The Linen Closet
Pieter de Hooch

Posted by: CBD at 09:45 AM

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1 First?

Posted by: bloodstone at August 16, 2018 09:44 AM (MztjN)

2 It's no Vermeer, but it's close!

Posted by: Pete in TX at August 16, 2018 09:44 AM (2RBkF)

3 Hot damn!

Posted by: bloodstone at August 16, 2018 09:44 AM (MztjN)

4 WTF is happening above the door?!

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 16, 2018 09:44 AM (BYLU3)

5 2nd! But I'm first with the hooch = booze comment, right?

Posted by: Pete in TX at August 16, 2018 09:44 AM (2RBkF)

6 Although, in the past I've posted as blackstone!

Posted by: bloodstone at August 16, 2018 09:44 AM (MztjN)

7 TOP TEN BITCHES!!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) Hate's staying in the room over the garage, but only til it gets its shit together... at August 16, 2018 09:45 AM (jjaLl)

8 Bloodstone .... the name for my next band!

Posted by: bloodstone at August 16, 2018 09:45 AM (MztjN)

9 What's with the teeny floor washer?

Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2018 09:46 AM (Enq6K)

10 Who's the midget over the doorway?

Posted by: BignJames at August 16, 2018 09:47 AM (0+nbW)

11 Man, that midget with the riding crop is looking like she wants to put a whuppin' on the tall chick's bedonkadonk!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) Hate's staying in the room over the garage, but only til it gets its shit together... at August 16, 2018 09:48 AM (jjaLl)

12 Too dark. now I can go check for water leaks.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 16, 2018 09:48 AM (mpXpK)

13 She is the original Bissell robot

Posted by: bloodstone at August 16, 2018 09:48 AM (MztjN)

14 Paolo is getting lucky again!

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 16, 2018 09:48 AM (Cqc07)

15
Shamelessly Stolen From Someone Else - a limerick

The downstairs maid, Dirty Sally
With the man of the house she did dally
She fell for his trap
When she sat on his lap
And said, "Sir! You're right up my alley!"

Posted by: Muldoon at August 16, 2018 09:49 AM (m45I2)

16 Too much posse.....

Posted by: Sponge at August 16, 2018 09:49 AM (Zz0t1)

17 Woman has a school bus fender wrapped around her.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2018 09:49 AM (r9UYA)

18 Does anyone else see the spectral figure walking out of that painting above the doorway!??!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) Hate's staying in the room over the garage, but only til it gets its shit together... at August 16, 2018 09:49 AM (jjaLl)

19 What's with the teeny floor washer?

Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2018 09:46 AM (Enq6K)

Appears to be playing street hockey.

Posted by: BignJames at August 16, 2018 09:49 AM (0+nbW)

20 The Linen Closet? Is that where they keep all their Beatles albums? Imagine that.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 16, 2018 09:50 AM (m45I2)

21 Eddie Munster comes out of the linen closet.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 16, 2018 09:50 AM (IqV8l)

22 Rock and Roll Hoochie-Koo

Posted by: grammie winger at August 16, 2018 09:50 AM (lwiT4)

23 Subdued but colorful ...

Posted by: Adriane the Art Critic ... at August 16, 2018 09:50 AM (AoK0a)

24 Somebody raise the blinds! It's too dark in this picture!

Posted by: Archer at August 16, 2018 09:50 AM (gmo/4)

25 A midget field hockey player?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 09:50 AM (xSo9G)

26 Look at how the artist gives dimension to the work. I don't mean perspective, look at how he reveals depth by opening doors and twisting stairs. This isn't a few models in front of a backdrop, there is a whole other world stretching horizontally beyond the walls of the house. It is bright and colorful -- a nice contrast to the dark interior. Vertically, there's an upper floor to the house to discover. Notice how the artist turns the stairs so we cannot see the top. What's up there? Nice.

Posted by: Kris at August 16, 2018 09:51 AM (OyyDO)

27 I agree, it needs more light.

Posted by: Thomas Kinkade at August 16, 2018 09:51 AM (bxP6N)

28 Hoochie hoochie coo.

That doorway is sized for a midget; perspective is way off.

Nice detail on that cedar closet though.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2018 09:51 AM (0ogQG)

29 If you put a Turner painting next to this one it would have been hilarious.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp patiently waiting at August 16, 2018 09:52 AM (shMPn)

30 At the Linen Closet, out of the sun
At the Linen Closet, we'll be having some fun
At the Linen Closet, people walking above
At the Linen Closet, we'll be making love

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2018 09:52 AM (/qEW2)

31 Paulo inspecting the linens?
Hey baby, wanna soil these with me.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 16, 2018 09:52 AM (QMwOT)

32 Why is there a window on a interior wall?

Luxury!

Posted by: Archer at August 16, 2018 09:52 AM (gmo/4)

33 I don't think those stairs are actually usable.... instead of walking up them you'd have to actually scale them.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) Hate's staying in the room over the garage, but only til it gets its shit together... at August 16, 2018 09:52 AM (jjaLl)

34 Is that a door dork dangler? Unusual...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 09:52 AM (xSo9G)

35 What's with the goblin jumping out of the painting above the door?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp patiently waiting at August 16, 2018 09:53 AM (shMPn)

36 Can't tell if that's a happy bush or not.

Posted by: zombie Bob Ross at August 16, 2018 09:53 AM (ctuyM)

37 I don't think those stairs are actually usable.... instead of walking up them you'd have to actually scale them.....
Posted by: SSBN
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In Holland, I was amused by the very narrow, steep stairs in some of the houses.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 09:53 AM (xSo9G)

38 Gonna need all those towels?

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 16, 2018 09:54 AM (RHEDC)

39 "Dracula? I thought I told you never to come back here!"

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2018 09:54 AM (UnA8+)

40 Vertically, there's an upper floor to the house to discover. Notice how the artist turns the stairs so we cannot see the top. What's up there?

Posted by: Kris at August 16, 2018 09:51 AM (OyyDO)

The Paolo...that's what's up there.

Posted by: BignJames at August 16, 2018 09:54 AM (0+nbW)

41 There's something wrong with her jaw.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 09:54 AM (NWiLs)

42 I know what she keeps in that closet.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 16, 2018 09:54 AM (NWyC0)

43 F'ng perspective, how does it work?

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 16, 2018 09:54 AM (RHEDC)

44 Methinks the artist did partake of the brown acid.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2018 09:54 AM (YE6fT)

45 31 Paulo inspecting the linens?
Hey baby, wanna soil these with me.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 16, 2018 09:52 AM (QMwOT)

I believe those are both women....

Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2018 09:55 AM (Enq6K)

46 I am Willow, Destoyer of thoughtful comments:

I am mildly disappointed that my local paper in OKC played along with this. Its editorial page is fairly conservative and the local coverage is excellent.

But for anything national it picks up the AP which is unreadable owing to its being an organ of the DNC.

The theme of the editorial is that Trump is threatening the press. Baloney. Trump is CRITICIZING the press and they need it good and hard for abdicating their constitutionally enshrined role as watchdog.

And then literally on the next page is a short AP article about the electoral victory of the MN Muslim woman. It reads like a schoolyard taunt to Trump and of course no where does it mention that this woman likely committed immigration fraud.
Posted by: Blutarski

Posted by: Blutarski at August 16, 2018 09:55 AM (+Tibp)

47 17 Woman has a school bus fender wrapped around her.

*********************

It's a mid-17th century forerunner of the Mullet Skirt.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 16, 2018 09:55 AM (611Lm)

48

I believe those are both women....
Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2018 09:55 AM (Enq6K

She's a ze.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 16, 2018 09:56 AM (NWyC0)

49 The Linen Closet? Is that where they keep all their Beatles albums? Imagine that.
Posted by: Muldoon
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Or, the well preserved body of a Marxist.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 09:56 AM (CDGwz)

50 The woman is carrying a stack of manuscripts. Behind the child, through the doorway, there are a bunch of 2-d geometrical shapes. What an odd painting. I like it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2018 09:56 AM (/qEW2)

51 Doing it in the linen closet?

The sheets are about to hit the fanny.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 16, 2018 09:56 AM (m45I2)

52 Not much of a bustle.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 16, 2018 09:56 AM (2LelM)

53 Chica in orange has some of the tiniest feets.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2018 09:56 AM (YE6fT)

54 I do like the use of orange. You don't see that much . Though in this painting that's all I see.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp patiently waiting at August 16, 2018 09:56 AM (shMPn)

55 I think of the hardship with laundering back in the day. Then I think all their clothes could fit in a armoure, so perhaps not as bad as I would immediately think.
Sewing clothing however..

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 09:57 AM (dPd5y)

56 Little girl is going to whack that mouse like a golf ball.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 16, 2018 09:57 AM (dNzKv)

57 So, Dracula and a Midget walk into a Linen Closet...

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2018 09:57 AM (UnA8+)

58 What's with that weird looking girl at the doorway? She looks like one of those life-size Chatty Cathy's I had as a kid. Mechanical.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 16, 2018 09:57 AM (lwiT4)

59 Leave the linen closet.

Take the hooch.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 16, 2018 09:57 AM (kqsXK)

60 The Dutch like orange. She will soon be broken on the wheel by some Catholic.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 16, 2018 09:58 AM (2LelM)

61 48 She's a ze.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 16, 2018 09:56 AM (NWyC0)

Dracula can shapeshift, so s/he's whatever the hell s/he wants to be.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2018 09:58 AM (UnA8+)

62 Hey is there a child standing on top of the door pediment?
how odd.

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 09:58 AM (dPd5y)

63 What color did the artist use to paint that dress, cheddar?

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2018 09:58 AM (r9UYA)

64 The Press is the simile of the kid who kills his parents and whines that he is an orphan.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp patiently waiting at August 16, 2018 09:59 AM (shMPn)

65 Gonna need all those towels?

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 16, 2018 09:54 AM (RHEDC)

Yes, Madame is quite the squirter when I come a callin'.

Posted by: Paolo at August 16, 2018 09:59 AM (QLvwG)

66 What's the creepy thing coming out of the painting????

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 09:59 AM (ptqGC)

67 We Dutch are the tallest people in Europe. Plus we smoke a ton of weed.
- Pieter de Hooch

Posted by: Archer at August 16, 2018 09:59 AM (gmo/4)

68 I like the highlights on the golden hamper to the right of the couple. Also, above the doorway there is a statue obscuring a painting behind it. Why would anyone do that? A very intriguing painting. I bet Dan Brown could work a lot of symbolism out of this.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2018 09:59 AM (/qEW2)

69 where's the RED towel?

IYKWIM

Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 16, 2018 09:59 AM (jsWA8)

70 and look how they are making that child clean floors. Mine wouldn't get off the phone long enough to do that .

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 09:59 AM (dPd5y)

71 >4
WTF is happening above the door?!

That is John Travolta.

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 16, 2018 09:59 AM (sjdRT)

72 So....press has a constitutional duty to criticize the president, to the point of exaggerating or flat out making up stories to get their intended point across, but it is "threatening" and literally Hitler for the president to criticize the press.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 16, 2018 10:00 AM (dNzKv)

73 First, Ben Shapiro remains a tool.

Second, what fresh Hell are we getting today?

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2018 10:00 AM (Z5y53)

74 Elf on the shelf about to make a banzai charge.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at August 16, 2018 10:00 AM (48M9E)

75 aw aw aw aw, staying alive?

maybe

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:01 AM (dPd5y)

76 Dear Lord. Man who reported his pregnant wife and two little girls missing in CO on Monday has now been arrested for their murders.

I just can't.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:01 AM (ptqGC)

77 Look at how the colors are arranged. The interior scene is dark and muted. The Matron wears black and white, and the little girl, although dressed in blue, is in the shadows. The younger adult is dressed in red, yellow and blue, the primary colors. But that yellow is radiant. It provides a "beam of light" in shadows. It also helps you focus on the women at the linen closet even though they are not in the center of the work.

Now go to the open door, the primary colors appear again, but red dominates this time. The lighting is very bright, drawing your eye to it. However, since red is a less intense color than yellow, the scene outdoors does not dominate the overall work. But by using the same three colors, the artist unites the sections of the piece.

Posted by: Kris at August 16, 2018 10:01 AM (OyyDO)

78 Trump must be the first President with literally the entirety of the political class on both sides, weaponized Deep State, the combined MSM, Hollywood, et al...

And with all of that arrayed against him..

He persists!

G-d Bless that magnificent orange bastard!

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2018 10:01 AM (mv+Oj)

79 Or, the well preserved body of a Marxist.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Uncle Knickknack's summer wardrobe.

Uncle Knickknack's winter wardrobe.

Uncle Knickknack ...

Posted by: Morticia Adams at August 16, 2018 10:01 AM (AoK0a)

80 In Palpatine's absence, I feel compelled to say it, tulip-peddling canal wogs.

Someone had to do it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 10:01 AM (CDGwz)

81 What color did the artist use to paint that dress, cheddar?

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2018 09:58 AM (r9UYA)

No, he's Dutch so Gouda. It's a Gouda painting. Get it? I'm here all week. Be sure to tell your friends.

Posted by: Archer at August 16, 2018 10:02 AM (gmo/4)

82 Jane, maybe found a new chick, didn't want to pay child support.

much like Peterson

I bet all the parents of couple want to kill his ass back.

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:02 AM (dPd5y)

83 At first view, this might be one of the least interesting paintings I've ever seen.

Can someone with some art knowledge explain what is fascinating here? The brushwork, palette, and especially the subject seem intentionally pedestrian.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:03 AM (ULoJS)

84 50 Behind the child, through the doorway, there are a bunch of 2-d geometrical shapes. What an odd painting. I like it.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2018 09:56 AM (/qEW2)

I immediately thought of Mondrian when I saw that part.

Posted by: Kris at August 16, 2018 10:03 AM (OyyDO)

85 Wouldn't having sex in a linen closet hamper your freedom of movement?

Posted by: Muldoon at August 16, 2018 10:03 AM (m45I2)

86 It is a beautiful painting though. oddities aside. which makes it more interesting.

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:03 AM (dPd5y)

87 Rendering and color are decent but all kinds of compositional and perspective issues.

Judging from his other work, perspective's not his bag man.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2018 10:04 AM (mv+Oj)

88 72 So....press has a constitutional duty to criticize the president, to the point of exaggerating or flat out making up stories to get their intended point across, but it is "threatening" and literally Hitler for the president to criticize the press.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 16, 2018 10:00 AM (dNzKv)

Woman from the KC Star editorial board was just on FBN. She threw in Stalin too.

Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2018 10:04 AM (Enq6K)

89 Save me. Sitting through the annual back to school speech with a spinnerof stats.

Posted by: Auscolpyr at August 16, 2018 10:04 AM (auUHv)

90 It is a beautiful painting though. oddities aside. which makes it more interesting.

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:03 AM (dPd5y)

Yes but the oddities are all over the place, not just on the side.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Art Critic Extraordinaire at August 16, 2018 10:05 AM (QLvwG)

91 Save me. Sitting through the annual back to school speech with a spinnerof stats.
Posted by: Auscolpyr
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I hope it isn't a PP presentation...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 10:05 AM (CDGwz)

92 ...and especially the subject seem intentionally pedestrian.

*****

Well, you do have to admire someone who dedicates his life to the medical treatment of children...

...what's that? Pedestrian? Oh...

...never mind.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 16, 2018 10:05 AM (m45I2)

93 89 Save me. Sitting through the annual back to school speech with a spinnerof stats.

Posted by: Auscolpyr at August 16, 2018 10:04 AM (auUHv)

Just for fun yell "YOU LIE!"

Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2018 10:06 AM (Enq6K)

94 And when grandma's vase was broken indoor golf was banned.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Deplatformed? Media Platforms of Genuine Balderdash Available at The Outrage Outlet at August 16, 2018 10:06 AM (hLRSq)

95 What is the significance of the 3D figure of the dancing child above the dark door?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:06 AM (ULoJS)

96 I would love to have a laundry area that looked like that.

and the house to hold it.

I adore old homes. fantastic crafstmanship

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:06 AM (dPd5y)

97
Just for fun yell "YOU LIE!"
Posted by: Tami
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LOL

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 10:06 AM (CDGwz)

98 Posted by: Muldoon at August 16, 2018 10:05 AM (m45I2)

Nothing about children is pedestrian! I'll bet you even their illnessess are unusual.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (ULoJS)

99 Aretha Franklin dead at 76.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (ptqGC)

100 Could you close that, please? I'm still in here!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (oLWxf)

101 What is the significance of the 3D figure of the dancing child above the dark door?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:06 AM (ULoJS)

We're gonna need an old priest and a young priest.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (QLvwG)

102 That child killing father would literally be skinned alive if I was in charge of his punishment .

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp patiently waiting at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (shMPn)

103 Count sure, but it is something one can continue to discover for more than 2 minutes, which I like.

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (dPd5y)

104 I hope it isn't a PP presentation...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 10:05 AM (CDGwz)

---

Death by Powerpoint.

It's a thing...well, should be anyway.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (IsEQq)

105 83 At first view, this might be one of the least interesting paintings I've ever seen.

Can someone with some art knowledge explain what is fascinating here? The brushwork, palette, and especially the subject seem intentionally pedestrian.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:03 AM (ULoJS)

Scenes of everyday life were a huge deal back then. It showed off the virtues of home-life and the common man. As someone said above, he's no Vermeer but Hooch was a contemporary and I can see the influence.

Posted by: Kris at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (OyyDO)

106 99 Aretha Franklin dead at 76.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (ptqGC)

Awww...may she RIP. She was one of a kind.

Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (Enq6K)

107 The illuminated stick-robot in the other room is about to zap the human child in the doorway.

Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (Bdeb0)

108 House we just moved into has *no* linen closets (or medicine cabinets)! Our last house had two and it was just about right for 5 people.We're having to figure out how to stow everything (and we don't have any extra sheets and not many extra towels).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (uquGJ)

109 for instance why is their a bowl on top of the laundry closet?

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (dPd5y)

110 I wish Trump would stop silencing the press - I can't think for all of the noise they are making.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Deplatformed? Media Platforms of Genuine Balderdash Available at The Outrage Outlet at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (hLRSq)

111 My dad died at 76 after falling and hitting his head.

76 is way too young.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (ptqGC)

112 Aretha Franklin dead at 76.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (ptqGC)

She died? I read this morning that she was talking and laughing with family. Sad.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (lwiT4)

113 Too dark. now I can go check for water leaks.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 16, 2018 09:48 AM

Do you have a meter you can look at and watch it spin?

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (LOgQ4)

114 RIP Aretha Franklin

Posted by: steevy at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (LiyEm)

115 Oh I guess gettin' yurr knob polished in th' LINEN closet is better'n stickin' a seegar in a slut's slash huh? Ha ha ha ha! sllut slishh, ha ha ha ha. Ha ha haaaaaa he dinn think any body'd fin' out about THAT didee?

Posted by: Hillury Clinton at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (ln5wD)

116 The Discus crowd at the Federalist are very naive when dealing with trolls.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 16, 2018 10:09 AM (rnAwa)

117 I do enjoy the Dutch domestic scenes from the 1600s. The images are usually pleasant, they are realistic enough for details but still hold onto the 'art' aspect, and the colors always seem appropriate. They are simply an enjoyable experience. I don't know if this applies, but I suspect the growing merchant class of the time, instead of only the aristocracy and the church, could afford paintings and wanted scenes that reflected a comfortable life.

Posted by: JTB at August 16, 2018 10:09 AM (V+03K)

118 I'm not sure why, but this painting made me think of the Dropkick Mrurphy's Captain Kelly's Kitchen, the ballad of a stock boy who was invited for a trust with a housemaid only to find himself in the clink from a #metoo allegation.

If you need a musical interlude with your eighth cup of coffee, enjoy!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R3T90I7cdXI

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 16, 2018 10:09 AM (w6Kq8)

119 Save me. Sitting through the annual back to school speech with a spinnerof stats.

Posted by: Auscolpyr

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I hope it isn't a PP presentation...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 10:05 AM (CDGwz)

I HAVE 157 !% SLIDES IN MY DECK!!-PowerPoint guy

Posted by: Archer at August 16, 2018 10:09 AM (gmo/4)

120 @63

Probably vermillion and cadmium yellow or possibly yellow ochre depending on the formulation.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2018 10:09 AM (mv+Oj)

121 She died? I read this morning that she was talking and laughing with family. Sad.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (lwiT4)

Yes, McCain still lives, and apparently walks and talks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:10 AM (ptqGC)

122 106
99 Aretha Franklin dead at 76.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (ptqGC)

Awww...may she RIP. She was one of a kind

Glad he long battle with cancer is finally done. She was magnificent. I feel fortunate to have seen her perform.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:10 AM (ULoJS)

123 111 My dad died at 76 after falling and hitting his head.

76 is way too young.

Mine too! Same thing fell and hit his head.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 16, 2018 10:10 AM (jsWA8)

124 Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (dPd5y)

Looks like it's probably a porcelain bowl and it's there so it can be seen without people being tempted to touch it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 16, 2018 10:10 AM (uquGJ)

125 111 My dad died at 76 after falling and hitting his head.

76 is way too young.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (ptqGC)

I'd be thrilled to make it to 76.

Nobody on my mother's side of my family has made it past 69.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2018 10:10 AM (UnA8+)

126 RIP Aretha.

Her music will definitely live on.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at August 16, 2018 10:10 AM (IsEQq)

127 for instance why is there a bowl on top of the laundry closet?
Posted by: willow
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They've been looking for that bowl for months.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 10:10 AM (xSo9G)

128 These folks should fire their interior decorators!

Posted by: Publius Redux at August 16, 2018 10:10 AM (Fb9aZ)

129 polli, argh,, last old home I moved to had 3 by 4 ft closets, was so difficult for storage, I ended up buying armoires and placing them everywhere, fortunately the home could handle them.

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:11 AM (dPd5y)

130 for instance why is their a bowl on top of the laundry closet?

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (dPd5y)

Good eye. And why is the front door standing open? Where's the Dad yelling about not paying to cool the whole danged neighborhood.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Art Critic Extraordinaire at August 16, 2018 10:11 AM (QLvwG)

131 Scenes of everyday life were a huge deal back then. It showed off the virtues of home-life and the common man. As someone said above, he's no Vermeer but Hooch was a contemporary and I can see the influence.

Posted by: Kris at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (OyyDO)

The rise of the Dutch republic was driven by trade and the wealth generated by the middle class. In this painting the patron's wealth and status is being displayed. He has a large house, plenty of art works, his female family members are well-dressed, they have a large store of linens, his children can play fashionable games - everything in the painting says "Look how well-off I am, I have made it."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Deplatformed? Media Platforms of Genuine Balderdash Available at The Outrage Outlet at August 16, 2018 10:11 AM (hLRSq)

132 My dad died at 76 after falling and hitting his head.

76 is way too young.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (ptqGC)

Mine died at 64...didn't even get to retire.

Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2018 10:11 AM (Enq6K)

133 I read somewhere that Ms. Franklin was down to 84 lbs. Is that true?

I hate cancer.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 16, 2018 10:11 AM (Ri0Ku)

134 Aretha Franklin dead at 76.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:07 AM (ptqGC)

Aww man.. I am not surprised since she was in very poor health. RIP

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 16, 2018 10:11 AM (kG5hP)

135 No Dutch painter can compare to Vermeer IMHO and there is a lot of competition.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp patiently waiting at August 16, 2018 10:12 AM (shMPn)

136

RIP Aretha, the Queen of Soul.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 10:12 AM (HaL55)

137 Who is xe on the left? Dude from the neck up but wearing a lady shirt n' skirt?

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 16, 2018 10:12 AM (2NqXo)

138

Aretha is mort?

Posted by: Soothi at August 16, 2018 10:12 AM (FmjGl)

139 Mike perhaps at one time it was filled with fresh preserves for the loaf of bread hiding under that chair sitting in the Middle of the floor.

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:12 AM (dPd5y)

140 You know what I bet would be a totally non-controversial subject to discuss here on the Q?

The Pennsylvania Catholic child molestation and cover-up story.

I am not Catholic. But I have a deep appreciation for the Catholic Church. I mean, Peter. Upon this rock. An institution that dates literally back to the time of Jesus. I love the fact that Roman Empire tried to end Christianity, and the Throne of St. Peter is in Rome, and the Roman Empire is dead.

And yet...

This. And it isn't like this is the first time. I thought in the 90s that Pope JPII would come to America and bring out his Papal Banhammer. But then he was too ill. This happens in too many places. And the Church fights too hard for the Church and avoids God.

It is heartbreaking to see.

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2018 10:12 AM (Z5y53)

141 has made it past 69."

Ahhhh....

nevermind.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:12 AM (6qErC)

142 137 Who is xe on the left? Dude from the neck up but wearing a lady shirt n' skirt?
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 16, 2018 10:12 AM (2NqXo)

Dracula.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2018 10:12 AM (UnA8+)

143 95 What is the significance of the 3D figure of the dancing child above the dark door?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:06 AM (ULoJS)

I was able to find a version I could zoom in on. Not much better though. It looks like a statuette of Bacchus. It's standing on the door's lintel.

Posted by: Kris at August 16, 2018 10:13 AM (OyyDO)

144 I adore old homes. fantastic crafstmanship

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:06 AM (dPd5y)

Yeah, they don't make them like they used to, and if they did only Trump could afford it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 16, 2018 10:13 AM (9Om/r)

145 Aretha is mort?"

Ben.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:13 AM (6qErC)

146 Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (dPd5y)

Looks like it's probably a porcelain bowl and it's there so it can be seen without people being tempted to touch it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 16, 2018 10:10 AM (uquGJ)

That's where the evil elf above the door goes pee pee.

Posted by: Archer at August 16, 2018 10:13 AM (gmo/4)

147 "Look how well-off I am, I have made it."
Posted by: Mikey NTH
---------------

Yes...but the demon over the door has interesting plans for you.

Remember those tulip futures you bought?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 10:13 AM (xSo9G)

148 Count we've always had barn rats in existence.
even I have a couple.

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:14 AM (dPd5y)

149 Seems appropriate repeat my post from yesterday.

R-E-S-T-I-N-P-E-A-C-E

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp patiently waiting at August 16, 2018 10:14 AM (shMPn)

150
There will be two more...

Posted by: I See Dead Celerys at August 16, 2018 10:14 AM (FmjGl)

151 Aretha suffered from pancreatic cancer, which Notorious RBG somehow survived.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:14 AM (ptqGC)

152 plooi yes it is, but why waste a porcelain bowl on the 'help' LOL

as lovely as it is.

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:14 AM (dPd5y)

153 Why is the thing about the door doing a John Travolta Stayin' Alive Disco Pose?

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2018 10:14 AM (UnA8+)

154 What's with the teeny floor washer?
Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2018 09:46 AM (Enq6K)

She's an up and coming bandy player. Dutch women's league.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 16, 2018 10:15 AM (2K6fY)

155

Save me. Sitting through the annual back to school speech with a spinnerof stats.

You didn't take a couple of miniatures of hootch with you? I'd've made me some Irish Covfefe. Heavy on the Irish.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 10:15 AM (HaL55)

156 Count we've always had barn rats in existence.

even I have a couple.

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:14 AM (dPd5y)

Barn rats use the front door? I'm confused.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Art Critic Extraordinaire at August 16, 2018 10:15 AM (QLvwG)

157 @140

It would seem that the Church has made a calculation that it is more difficult to find new priests than to coverup systemic abuse.

This is a very bad situation that only gives the forces of Satan another avenue to destroy Western Civ and the Judeo-Christian creed that underpins it.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2018 10:15 AM (mv+Oj)

158 Why is the thing about the door doing a John Travolta Stayin' Alive Disco Pose?
Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2018 10:14 AM
~~~~~

I thought it was one of those now verboten lawn jockeys--sans pants.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 16, 2018 10:16 AM (Ri0Ku)

159 The rise of the Dutch republic was driven by trade and the wealth generated by the middle class. In this painting the patron's wealth and status is being displayed. He has a large house, plenty of art works, his female family members are well-dressed, they have a large store of linens, his children can play fashionable games - everything in the painting says "Look how well-off I am, I have made it."
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Deplatformed? Media Platforms of Genuine Balderdash Available at The Outrage Outlet at August 16, 2018 10:11 AM (hLRSq)

You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you!

Posted by: God at August 16, 2018 10:16 AM (NWiLs)

160 for instance why is their a bowl on top of the laundry closet?

Chamber pot. You always hope the last person had to the decency to empty it out the window.

Posted by: t-bird at August 16, 2018 10:16 AM (kUnLs)

161 anyway a beautiful helping of incongruousness in this painting . as I said interesting and something it takes more than a minute to check.

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:16 AM (dPd5y)

162 Trump stands accused of unwanted touching at the linen closet.

His accuser reveals in a shocking new tell-all that the President made unwanted advances and claims there is a midget and a secret, tiny painting elf that can corroborate the claims.

Posted by: CNN at August 16, 2018 10:16 AM (w6Kq8)

163 A centrist friend, a guy who who couldn't vote for either one of Hillary or PDJT, sent me a NYT link to all 300 of the newspaper editorials published today. The monolithic views of the Propaganda Press machine are having an impact, and despite this guy being enthused about the economy he is beginning to think he has to vote Democrat to be a good American.

I hate these Demofascist control of the press far more than I hate their semi-ridiculous street soldiers in Antifa.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:16 AM (ULoJS)

164

Prediction: a left wing dink will use the death of Aretha Franklin against President Trump.

They'll say the president needs to r-e-s-p-e-c-t the Fake News, or something.

Posted by: Soothi at August 16, 2018 10:16 AM (FmjGl)

165 Count we've always had barn rats in existence.
even I have a couple.
Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:14 AM (dPd5y)

Rats? I've had a few.

But then again, too few to mention.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 16, 2018 10:16 AM (IqOTP)

166 The rise of the Dutch republic was driven by trade and the wealth generated by the middle class. In this painting the patron's wealth and status is being displayed. He has a large house, plenty of art works, his female family members are well-dressed, they have a large store of linens, his children can play fashionable games - everything in the painting says "Look how well-off I am, I have made it."
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Deplatformed? Media Platforms of Genuine Balderdash Available at The Outrage Outlet at August 16, 2018 10:11 AM (hLRSq)

Yup. This is probably the most well-known painting that demonstrates this.

https://tinyurl.com/ybhw5mbd

Posted by: Kris at August 16, 2018 10:16 AM (OyyDO)

167 Dad was 76 when he passed. Younger than his folks were when they went. I blame the smoking, even though he stopped long before, it did the damage I bet.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, still kicking at August 16, 2018 10:16 AM (AM1GF)

168 count sure, and they leave it open with help of the children'

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:17 AM (dPd5y)

169 Chamber pot:

James Gillray, National Conveniences, circa 1796

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:17 AM (6qErC)

170 RIP Aretha, the Queen of Soul.

If there's a rock and roll heaven, you know they've got a hell of a band.

Which is, IMO, a lousy song.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 16, 2018 10:17 AM (kqsXK)

171 I'll mention this on the next book thread. I just got a copy of "The Marine Art of Geoff Hunt". He's the artist who did the paintings used on the Patrick O'Brian book covers. If you have any interest in paintings of sailing ships and a little of how he develops and completes them, the book is a gem.

Hunt, in my opinion, is the Robert Bateman of sea painting.

Posted by: JTB at August 16, 2018 10:17 AM (V+03K)

172 RIP Aretha. Respect, girl.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 16, 2018 10:17 AM (pUDQf)

173 Rats? I've had a few.

But then again, too few to mention.

Posted by: hogmartin

You wrote that--

--YOOOOOUR WAAAAAAAAY!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, still kicking at August 16, 2018 10:17 AM (AM1GF)

174
A centrist friend, a guy who who couldn't vote for either one of Hillary
or PDJT, sent me a NYT link to all 300 of the newspaper editorials
published today. The monolithic views of the Propaganda Press machine
are having an impact, and despite this guy being enthused about the
economy he is beginning to think he has to vote Democrat to be a good
American.

Bless his heart.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:18 AM (ptqGC)

175 so I guess as a first step I will yell shut the damn'd door you heathens. and go from there.

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:18 AM (dPd5y)

176
It would seem that the Church has made a calculation that it is more
difficult to find new priests than to coverup systemic abuse.

Or, the senior church leaders deciding to cover-up these abuses were themselves guilty in their times leading parishes of similar crimes.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:18 AM (ULoJS)

177 LOL willow.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Art Critic Extraordinaire at August 16, 2018 10:18 AM (QLvwG)

178 151 Aretha suffered from pancreatic cancer, which Notorious RBG somehow survived.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:14 AM (ptqGC)

Figures. Someone talented gets pancreatic cancer, dies. A good man I knew with a family got pancreatic cancer, wasted away to nothing, died. That evil old crone gets pancreatic cancer, survives to keep inflicting her wickedness on our country. The wicked prosper, the good suffer.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 10:18 AM (NWiLs)

179

Barn rats use the front door? I'm confused.

They use the side door to follow teh SCOAMF to a Rose Garden presser.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 10:19 AM (HaL55)

180 The intent of the artist, in providing us a view within these squalid and nightmarish catacombs, was to display vividly the utter depravity and moral filthiness of the common tulip-peddling canal rat. Note the twisted faces of the two harpies beside the Cabinet of Evil, the Death-Dwarf, coming to greet them and share in their degeneracy....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 10:19 AM (fA1SL)

181 167 Dad was 76 when he passed. Younger than his folks were when they went. I blame the smoking, even though he stopped long before, it did the damage I bet.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still kicking at August 16, 2018 10:16 AM (AM1GF)

I kind of have the feeling my father doesn't have all that long left.

He has to get a pacemaker in the fall, and he's already got emphysema.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2018 10:20 AM (UnA8+)

182 Aretha was the first woman inducted into the Rock&Roll HoF, according to Fox. Now, I like plenty of her songs, but R&R isn't the first, second or third category I think of about her music. Soul, blues, jazz...sure.

Ymmv.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2018 10:20 AM (0ogQG)

183 for instance why is their a bowl on top of the laundry closet?

That's where they keep the cocaine.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 10:20 AM (NWiLs)

184 my sis died in 3 mths with pancreatic cancer , 4 weeks after the whipple surgery.

I had read one can live up to 5 or so years after, perhaps it's gotten better. no female in my famly in 3 generations has lived past 52

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:20 AM (dPd5y)

185 >>despite this guy being enthused about the
economy he is beginning to think he has to vote Democrat to be a good
American.

You should gently remind him that he'll get the same affirmation by calling the Sean Hannity show.

Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2018 10:21 AM (Bdeb0)

186 The rise of the Dutch republic was driven by trade and the wealth generated by the middle class.

Simon Schama's a left-wing lunatic, but his book The Embarrassment of Riches is a good (if long and dense) look at these times.

https://tinyurl.com/yasfj85m

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 16, 2018 10:21 AM (kqsXK)

187 Count we've always had barn rats in existence.
even I have a couple.

There's a dog club in NYC that takes their terriers out regularly to let them hunt rats..

http://tinyurl.com/ya8sbr7g

Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2018 10:21 AM (sZaoP)

188 From what I've read, RBG had a tumor *in* her pancreas, which MSM'ers called pancreatic cancer, but which was actually quite a bit different thing than the kind of pancreatic cancer that Arethra suffered from. Hence RBG's recovery; tumors can often be contained and removed, a metastasizing cancer cannot.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2018 10:21 AM (k1TUh)

189 ugh, a bad trip down memory lane, think i'll go rake the yard.

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:21 AM (dPd5y)

190 What in the creepy Hell is that thing above the door?

Oh and good morning everyone!

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 16, 2018 10:21 AM (myjNJ)

191 180 The intent of the artist, in providing us a view within these squalid and nightmarish catacombs, was to display vividly the utter depravity and moral filthiness of the common tulip-peddling canal rat. Note the twisted faces of the two harpies beside the Cabinet of Evil, the Death-Dwarf, coming to greet them and share in their degeneracy....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 10:19 AM (fA1SL)

I still prefer my Vampire interpretation.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2018 10:21 AM (UnA8+)

192 @182

"Rock and Roll" is derivative of many types of music.

Aretha Franklin is a worthy exemplar of the form.

She most certainly belongs in the Rock and Roll hall of fame.

RIP Queen of Soul!!!

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2018 10:22 AM (mv+Oj)

193 There's a dog club in NYC that takes their terriers out regularly to let them hunt rats..

http://tinyurl.com/ya8sbr7g

Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2018 10:21 AM (sZaoP)

The Cuomo brothers go into deep cover at that time.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:22 AM (ptqGC)

194 It would seem that the Church has made a calculation that it is more difficult to find new priests than to coverup systemic abuse.
-------------

Sometime in the 70's, the seminaries became breeding grounds for homosexual predators.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 10:22 AM (CDGwz)

195 nothing says explosive diarrhea like a desperate grab for the chamber pot. maybe at that point you just stick your butt out the window and let fly

Posted by: JEM at August 16, 2018 10:22 AM (WYAcL)

196 no female in my famly in 3 generations has lived past 52

Posted by: willow at August 16, 2018 10:20 AM (dPd5y)

Wow - that's really young!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 16, 2018 10:22 AM (lwiT4)

197 191. The vampire, as is well-known, is a literary metaphor for these benighted and fallen people.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 10:23 AM (fA1SL)

198 sent me a NYT link to all 300 of the newspaper editorials published today"

1 editorial, and someone "sharing" NYT links was never going to vote for Trump...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:23 AM (6qErC)

199 Love the painting. Anyone notice how awkward the first couple of steps on the stairway are?

Posted by: Tuna at August 16, 2018 10:23 AM (jm1YL)

200 193 The Cuomo brothers go into deep cover at that time.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:22 AM (ptqGC)

Dog Police : Nobody Knows Who You Are.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2018 10:23 AM (UnA8+)

201 194. Something, something, 'Windswept House. '

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 10:23 AM (fA1SL)

202 Sometime in the 70's, the seminaries became breeding grounds for homosexual predators.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 10:22 AM (CDGwz)

They aren't homosexuals! Just because they're men sexually attracted to and who molest younger males doesn't uh...wait...

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 10:24 AM (NWiLs)

203 199 Love the painting. Anyone notice how awkward the first couple of steps on the stairway are?
Posted by: Tuna

There's a lady who's sure
All that glitters is gold

Posted by: Jimmy Page and Robert Plant at August 16, 2018 10:24 AM (FZYNt)

204 197 191. The vampire, as is well-known, is a literary metaphor for these benighted and fallen people.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 10:23 AM (fA1SL)

You have a point. Orlok, the Nosferatu, was meant to look like a rat, after all.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2018 10:24 AM (UnA8+)

205 >>180
The intent of the artist, in providing us a view within these squalid
and nightmarish catacombs, was to display vividly the utter depravity
and moral filthiness of the common tulip-peddling canal rat. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and
Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 10:19 AM (fA1SL)

"...no, no, you misunderstand, Voorhees. The 50 million guilders is for a charcoal drawing of a woodblock print of a painting of the Semper Augustus. Wait...you thought you were purchasing *the actual bulb?*"

Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2018 10:24 AM (Bdeb0)

206 Aretha Franklin Death Bed Statement: Donald Trump is a racist.

Posted by: CNN at August 16, 2018 10:24 AM (r9UYA)

207

Sometime in the 70's, the seminaries became breeding grounds for homosexual predators.

Yeah, around 70 A.D.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 10:25 AM (HaL55)

208 the common tulip-peddling canal rat.
------------

Dammit! Have I misquoted you?

80

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 10:25 AM (CDGwz)

209 176

It would seem that the Church has made a calculation that it is more

difficult to find new priests than to coverup systemic abuse.

Or,
the senior church leaders deciding to cover-up these abuses were
themselves guilty in their times leading parishes of similar crimes.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:18 AM (ULoJS)

Being Catholic, and being in NH when the Boston/NH sex abuse scandal broke --- I sit here and shake my head at why this wasn't addressed during that time. Scab was already ripped off, time to come clean everywhere.Thinking about it, I venture a lot of it is financial, the other is the disruption to power that the bishops and higher have.

What ever the reason, our priests, bishops, archbishops, cardinals, Popes have been charged to be our shepherds. And they failed us. How is the flock supposed to fall in line with these shepherds now, when they are willing to sacrifice the innocence of children for their own gain? Or worse -- remain silent when they know, KNOW, that there are abusers still around?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 16, 2018 10:25 AM (jxbfJ)

210 204. Loved that flick! Perfect monster, wasn't he?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 10:25 AM (fA1SL)

211 In this painting the patron's wealth and status is being displayed. He has a large house, plenty of art works

Well, he did, until the artist and his buddies from Starbucks cleaned him out a week later.

Posted by: t-bird at August 16, 2018 10:26 AM (z9nOg)

212 203
NO NO NO! Not THAT tripe again.

Posted by: Dan Patterson at August 16, 2018 10:26 AM (ln5wD)

213 Kris, Thanks for the analysis of this painting. As I study it more, your words will give me a good starting point to appreciate it and the style of others like it.

Posted by: JTB at August 16, 2018 10:26 AM (V+03K)

214 Apparently Teh Rick Wilson has a book entitled Everything Trump Touches Dies or some crap.

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2018 10:26 AM (Z5y53)

215 >>Simon Schama's a left-wing lunatic, but his book The Embarrassment of Riches is a good (if long and dense) look at these times.
https://tinyurl.com/yasfj85m Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 16, 2018 10:21 AM (kqsXK)

Yes it is. So is "Landscape and Memory," esp. the chapter re the Teutoburg Forest. I've begun (and put down) "Citizens" more times than I can count.

Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2018 10:26 AM (Bdeb0)

216 208. No, they're wogs. Wogs begin at Calais. This is known.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 10:26 AM (fA1SL)

217 @194

Well the saying goes, "you gotta work with what you got!"

It may indeed be time for the Church to seriously consider allowing priests to marry.

Because it seems the only pool for the priesthood seems to be closeted homosexuals and pedophiles.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2018 10:27 AM (mv+Oj)

218 They aren't homosexuals! Just because they're men sexually attracted to and who molest younger males doesn't uh...wait...

I've noted that a few outlets who cover the story selectively choose to detail the female victims..

I dont know the breakdown of the 100's of victims but am pretty sure its probably >70% boys (if not more)

Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2018 10:27 AM (sZaoP)

219 Sigh. Another strike against use of emu assassins.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments
/97qmau/bunny_scares_emu/

Posted by: Brother Cavil, still kicking at August 16, 2018 10:27 AM (AM1GF)

220 Not sure how to tip Ace anymore since he is off Twitter, and he may not need the tip, but holy crap the Weekly Standard - Fusion/GPS article seems like it was written to blow the top of his head clean off.

https://amgreatness.com/2018/08/15/the-weekly-standards-ties-to-fusion-gps/

Posted by: motionview at August 16, 2018 10:27 AM (pYQR/)

221
So the Fake News went Full Righteous Indignation without even admitting that they made a few mistakes?

And the THRUST of today's POLITICAL STUNT by the Fake News is the president of the United States needs to shut up for the sake of free speech?

Posted by: Soothi at August 16, 2018 10:27 AM (FmjGl)

222 The picture above the door is called "Celebration"....

It's sexual and violent.

It was a gift.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 16, 2018 10:28 AM (EoRCO)

223 113 Do you have a meter you can look at and watch it spin?

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 16, 2018 10:08 AM (LOgQ4)

I'm back. I used to have one but they replaced all the water meters here with electronic meters that they can read jut driving buy but you can't see shit on it. The only place were I can find any leakage is in that POS meter itself. But it has had a slow leak since they installed it several years ago and it is not 20 gal/hr. They are going to send someone out to check and they said there would be a $50 service call if they could find nothing wrong with "their stuff".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 16, 2018 10:28 AM (mpXpK)

224 homosexual predators

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 10:22 AM (CDGwz)

I think that a sexual attack on a child is something far, far different than homosexuality.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2018 10:28 AM (wYseH)

225 What ever the reason, our priests, bishops, archbishops, cardinals, Popes have been charged to be our shepherds. And they failed us. How is the flock supposed to fall in line with these shepherds now, when they are willing to sacrifice the innocence of children for their own gain? Or worse -- remain silent when they know, KNOW, that there are abusers still around?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

Just as I was ready to go back, this crap again. I guess I need to pull the trigger on that denomination switch after all.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, still kicking at August 16, 2018 10:29 AM (AM1GF)

226 Sometime in the 70's, the seminaries became breeding grounds for homosexual predators

The priests keep trying to breed, but without icky women involved.

Posted by: wooga at August 16, 2018 10:29 AM (S+sVl)

227 @220 you should have read his post about it yesterday!

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2018 10:29 AM (Z5y53)

228 remain silent when they know, KNOW, that there are abusers still around?"

Spent a few minutes reading thru the actual press releases and such yesterday. Just my natural suspicion, but there's an awful lot of "mays", "coulds", "alleges ", and more that makes me, well...

Hmmm

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:29 AM (6qErC)

229 Not sure how to tip Ace anymore since he is off Twitter, and he may not need the tip, but holy crap the Weekly Standard - Fusion/GPS article seems like it was written to blow the top of his head clean off.

https://amgreatness.com/2018/08/15/the-weekly-standards-ties-to-fusion-gps/

Posted by: motionview

He covered that yesterday evening...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, still kicking at August 16, 2018 10:29 AM (AM1GF)

230 Who's the midget over the doorway?
Posted by: BignJames

AtC

Posted by: wrg500 Manatee bounty hunter at August 16, 2018 10:30 AM (Bdeb0)

231 Aretha was the first woman inducted into the Rock&Roll HoF, according to Fox. Now, I like plenty of her songs, but R&R isn't the first, second or third category I think of about her music. Soul, blues, jazz...sure.

How about disco?

https://tinyurl.com/ydft8ap7

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 16, 2018 10:30 AM (kqsXK)

232 224 I think that a sexual attack on a child is something far, far different than homosexuality.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2018 10:28 AM (wYseH)

Harry Hay would have said otherwise, I think.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2018 10:30 AM (UnA8+)

233 "Woman from the KC Star editorial board was just on FBN. She threw in Stalin too."

As her personal hero?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 16, 2018 10:31 AM (BYLU3)

234 Who's the midget over the doorway?
Posted by: BignJames

AtC
Posted by: wrg500 Manatee bounty hunter

I'll be standing over there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Posted by: rickb223 at August 16, 2018 10:31 AM (YE6fT)

235 I'm waiting for Barry to issue a statement and poignant photo of himself about Aretha. You know it's coming.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:31 AM (ptqGC)

236 I think that a sexual attack on a child is something far, far different than homosexuality.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2018 10:28 AM (wYseH)

Perhaps.

I used to have this argument on the BBS's. I had this info stored in a txt file that I would use. There was a "scholarly journal" called Paidika and it was about just that. And the editorial board was made up of professors of Homosexual studies.

Weird, huh?

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2018 10:31 AM (Z5y53)

237 >> Sometime in the 70's, the seminaries became breeding grounds for homosexual predators

...of which century?

Posted by: garrett at August 16, 2018 10:31 AM (aCN2J)

238 maybe at that point you just stick your butt out the window and let fly

Preach it, brother!

Posted by: Hillary at August 16, 2018 10:31 AM (kqsXK)

239 Can someone with some art knowledge explain what is fascinating here? The brushwork, palette, and especially the subject seem intentionally pedestrian.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:03 AM (ULoJS)

Darn tootin'. The only subjects I find fascinating are podestrian.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at August 16, 2018 10:32 AM (/qEW2)

240

The priests keep trying to breed, but without icky women involved.

Well, Lena Dumpling had a hysterectomy, so...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 10:32 AM (HaL55)

241 Just as I was ready to go back, this crap again. I guess I need to pull the trigger on that denomination switch after all.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, still kicking at August 16, 2018 10:29 AM (AM1GF)

Can you live without shellfish and bacon?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2018 10:32 AM (wYseH)

242 >>
I'm back. I used to have one but they replaced all the water meters
here with electronic meters that they can read jut driving buy but you
can't see shit on it.

Is it a toilet running? We had one a few years ago and I could not hear it running. It was a slow persistent leak inside.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2018 10:32 AM (r9UYA)

243 ''There's a lady who's sure
All that glitters is gold''

LOL

Time to get my stiff backside out of bed and go to the gym. I caught the toe of my shoe on the new carpet in our office yesterday morning and did a full tripping flat out face plant right in front of about 50 people. I skipped work today as I'm sore and ache in about 25 different places. The old muscles are what they used to be.

Posted by: Tuna at August 16, 2018 10:32 AM (jm1YL)

244 How is the flock supposed to fall in line with these shepherds now, when they are willing to sacrifice the innocence of children for their own gain? Or worse -- remain silent when they know, KNOW, that there are abusers still around? "

I have a few suggestions. 95, to be precise.

Posted by: Martin Luther at August 16, 2018 10:32 AM (k1TUh)

245 The Church has a few married priests. Ordained Anglican priests who've dipped a toe in the Tiber and decided to swim.

Posted by: Furious George at August 16, 2018 10:32 AM (9vQJW)

246 Pennsylvania had some priests who molested teenaged girls too.

i am sure all this was just PA though and didn't happen in, oh, California and Nevada. /

give credit to Andrew Sullivan: he made noise about this in the early 2000s and supported Keating when he derided the bishops as a "casa nostra".

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 16, 2018 10:33 AM (Cqc07)

247 I think that a sexual attack on a child is something far, far different than homosexuality.

* * *

I think so too.

But there does not seem to be too much debate that the priesthood is teeming with both, which is really odd. I think Paul just turned out to be wrong on this score: the idea of a celibate priesthood stinks on ice; it allows a lot of odd ducks (to put it far more gently than deserved) into the priesthood.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at August 16, 2018 10:33 AM (ppBhU)

248 226 Sometime in the 70's, the seminaries became breeding grounds for homosexual predators

The priests keep trying to breed, but without icky women involved.
Posted by: wooga at August 16, 2018 10:29 AM (S+sVl)

How Protestants came about, Reason number......

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 10:33 AM (ujg0T)

249 A centrist friend, a guy who who couldn't vote for either one of Hillary or PDJT, sent me a NYT link to all 300 of the newspaper editorials published today. The monolithic views of the Propaganda Press machine are having an impact, and despite this guy being enthused about the economy he is beginning to think he has to vote Democrat to be a good American.

Email back in about a week and tell him you just got through the first three, and they were meh.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 16, 2018 10:33 AM (rnAwa)

250 Let's nip this...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:33 AM (6qErC)

251 ''I'm waiting for Barry to issue a statement and poignant photo of himself about Aretha. You know it's coming.''

Preach it sista.

Posted by: Tuna at August 16, 2018 10:34 AM (jm1YL)

252 It may indeed be time for the Church to seriously consider allowing priests to marry.

Because it seems the only pool for the priesthood seems to be closeted homosexuals and pedophiles.
Posted by: Kreplach

Rabbis can marry, and some commit crimes. One killed his wife. Protestant ministers can marry, and some commit crimes.

Having said that, CoE ministers being gay became a cliche, despite them being allowed to marry.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 16, 2018 10:34 AM (Fa3cJ)

253 I'm back. I used to have one but they replaced all the water meters here with electronic meters that they can read jut driving buy but you can't see shit on it. The only place were I can find any leakage is in that POS meter itself. "

Just fyi, a slow but constant leak in the seal of a commode can use up that much water and still be fairly silent and invisible. I've had that happen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2018 10:34 AM (k1TUh)

254 I think that a sexual attack on a child is something far, far different than homosexuality.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2018 10:28 AM

.....

I agree with that, but you can't really ignore the choice of victims either.

There would, in theory, be as many opportunities to molest a 15 or 16 year old girl as well, were it sex-driven only.

I think they choose boys because boys aren't likely to tell from their own embarrassment. Girls talk and wind up preggo, so there is no denying it at that point.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 16, 2018 10:34 AM (w6Kq8)

255 I think that a sexual attack on a child is something far, far different than homosexuality.

Most of the children are adolescent boys.
And many of Card. McCarrick's victims were young college-age seminarians

The 'pedophile' label is a smokescreen for predatory homosexual activity IMO

Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2018 10:35 AM (sZaoP)

256 A centrist friend, a guy who who couldn't vote for either one of Hillary or PDJT, sent me a NYT link to all 300 of the newspaper editorials published today.

--

Seems like that would show how biased newspapers are, so monolithic.

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at August 16, 2018 10:35 AM (8WLxa)

257 Harry Hay would have said otherwise, I think.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 16, 2018 10:30 AM (UnA8+)

The professional gay rights industry may be trying to mainstream child rape, but my guess is that most homosexuals have no interest.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2018 10:35 AM (wYseH)

258 Millenial couple doesn't believe people are evil, bikes through ISIS controlled territory, are murdered:

https://tinyurl.com/ycbv47dt

You can't make this shit up. Say what you want about Millenials, God knows I have, but the people responsible for turning their brains into mush should hang for it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 16, 2018 10:35 AM (4ErVI)

259 I have a few suggestions. 95, to be precise."

Nailed it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:35 AM (6qErC)

260 I think they choose boys because boys aren't likely to tell from their own embarrassment. Girls talk and wind up preggo, so there is no denying it at that point.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 16, 2018 10:34 AM (w6Kq

Up the bum, no babies.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 10:35 AM (NWiLs)

261 163 A centrist friend, a guy who who couldn't vote for either one of Hillary or PDJT, sent me a NYT link to all 300 of the newspaper editorials published today. The monolithic views of the Propaganda Press machine are having an impact, and despite this guy being enthused about the economy he is beginning to think he has to vote Democrat to be a good American.

I hate these Demofascist control of the press far more than I hate their semi-ridiculous street soldiers in Antifa.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:16 AM (ULoJS)[/]i

I hate them too, but I doubt this guy is a "Centrist", and I doubt he should remain your friend. If he's THAT swayed by what is so obviously false.....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 10:35 AM (ujg0T)

262

Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2018 10:36 AM (7HtZB)

263 I don't know that the answer is to change the celibacy rule for priests. Because, seems that the problem here is that THEY ARE NOT CELIBATE.

The problem is accountability in the Earthly Church. I get it that the Catholic Church is not Exxon, but imagine if it were? Think the CEO might at least put out a press release? Maybe go visit? Maybe start firing people who did the wrong thing?

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2018 10:37 AM (Z5y53)

264 262
Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2018 10:36 AM (7HtZB)

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 10:37 AM (NWiLs)

265 I'm calling that a big mirror in the middle of the picture, and those beings cast no reflection. Yep, Vampires.

plus that's how they can float up those weird bookcase-stairs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2018 10:37 AM (k1TUh)

266 You can't make this shit up."

Michael Rockefeller says "yum"...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:37 AM (6qErC)

267
What's the first line in I Don't Want To Lose Your Love Tonight?

Posted by: Soothi at August 16, 2018 10:37 AM (FmjGl)

268 I think Paul just turned out to be wrong on this score: the idea of a celibate priesthood stinks on ice

Paul didn't call for a celibate priesthood. First of all, he didn't call for a priesthood in the first place.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 16, 2018 10:38 AM (lwiT4)

269

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Seconded!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 10:38 AM (HaL55)

270 Couldn't have said it better myself."

Yep. Comment of the day...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:38 AM (6qErC)

271 268. Paul had his job. Peter had a different one, ya heretic.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 10:38 AM (fA1SL)

272

What's the first line in I Don't Want To Lose Your Love Tonight?

IIRC, "Josie's on a vacation far away."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 10:39 AM (HaL55)

273 Maybe I should be asking for Ace to tip me when I tip him a day late to things that do not need tipping.

Posted by: motionview at August 16, 2018 10:39 AM (pYQR/)

274 I think that a sexual attack on a child is something far, far different than homosexuality.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2018 10:28 AM

--

MZB's daughter thinks that sexual predation on children is basically how homosexuality is propagated. Imprint on and convert a boy before he can be "ruined" by a positive heterosexual experience.
Of course her view is shaped by her own childhood experiences, but it seems true that it was s a common thing.

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at August 16, 2018 10:39 AM (8WLxa)

275 Just as I was ready to go back, this crap again. I guess I need to pull the trigger on that denomination switch after all.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still kicking

Go back. Take charge.

Posted by: Adriane the Practical Advice Critic ... at August 16, 2018 10:39 AM (AoK0a)

276 Just fyi, a slow but constant leak in the seal of a commode can use up that much water and still be fairly silent and invisible. I've had that happen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2018 10:34 AM

This time of year, in Vic's neck of the woods, any commode leak would be sweating all over the floor from condensation. That's usually the first sign.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 16, 2018 10:39 AM (LOgQ4)

277
That's it, Bboy.

Posted by: Soothi at August 16, 2018 10:39 AM (FmjGl)

278 Millenial couple doesn't believe people are evil, bikes through ISIS controlled territory, are murdered:

https://tinyurl.com/ycbv47dt

*sigh*

Posted by: Darwin at August 16, 2018 10:39 AM (ptqGC)

279 Oer at Insty is a piece about a former close friend of that Omaroso strumpet flat out calling bullshit on the Trump-N-Word claim.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2018 10:40 AM (wldC6)

280 Unless you plan on allowing these Priests the ability to marry 10 year old boy, I see a slight flaw.

Posted by: garrett at August 16, 2018 10:40 AM (aCN2J)

281 I'm back. I used to have one but they replaced all the water meters

here with electronic meters that they can read jut driving buy but you

can't see shit on it.

Is it a toilet running? We had one a few years ago and I could not hear it running. It was a slow persistent leak inside.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2018 10:32 AM

---

That happened to me too. Got a $200 water bill one month and went to find out what was going on when we usually were billed ~$45-50. They told us to check all of the toilets and yep, the one in the back bathroom was a leaker and you couldn't hear it unless you stuck your ear right next to it.

I went ahead and replaced all of the toilets after that, they were 15 years old and the water where we lived in KY was horrible with calcium buildup.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 16, 2018 10:40 AM (JUOKG)

282 Never understood why priests couldn't have a family. And no one ever gave me a reasonable explanation. Catholic my whole life, btw.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 16, 2018 10:40 AM (89T5c)

283 @263

But the CEO of Exxon has an enormous pool of talent to bring in to fix the glitch.

There just aren't enough Priests to go around, and don't even get started on the Nun shortage crisis.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2018 10:40 AM (mv+Oj)

284 There just aren't enough Priests to go around, and don't even get started on the Nun shortage crisis.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2018 10:40 AM (mv+Oj)

Don't start nun, won't be nun.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 16, 2018 10:41 AM (NWiLs)

285 Here's why I disagree, Blaster: the celibacy thing allows weirdos to hide out in the priesthood. It would be far harder to do so if they had to get married and remain married. You're never going to not have sex-related problems in the priesthood, because they're human like the rest of us. But the Catholic Church has an institutional problem that other denominations seem to lack. What other difference likely explains that?

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at August 16, 2018 10:41 AM (ppBhU)

286 Barry van Obama mincing out of the closet

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2018 10:41 AM (OLCnA)

287 I could see a lot of people being influenced by the constant media barrage against DRUMPF!

As much as we hate the media and want them destroyed and think their influence is on the wane, there are still far too many people plugged into all of this shit. There are people who are literally glued to a tv for most of their waking hours.

I am worried it will have an effect. We'll see what happens soon.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 16, 2018 10:41 AM (4ErVI)

288 was horrible with calcium buildup. "

Calcium?

Okay dokey...

Snort

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:42 AM (6qErC)

289

I think Paul just turned out to be wrong on this score: the idea of a celibate priesthood stinks on ice

IMO, the theory was that you'd be a better Heavenly representative if you had the self-control to transcend your most primal urge.

Apparently, that idea got lost along the way somewhere.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 10:42 AM (HaL55)

290 Omarosa made life choices that have resulted in her having a LOT of "former close friends".

Don't do what she did, morons.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 16, 2018 10:42 AM (Cqc07)

291 Aretha Franklin dead at 76.
Has Jesse Jackson waved her bloody shirt yet?

Posted by: andycanuck at August 16, 2018 10:43 AM (Evws/)

292 Jury nullification is a thing. Even though it's in the Constitution, prosecutors and most judges think it's an infamnia

Will it happen with Manafort. Let us pray

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 16, 2018 10:43 AM (tkrlc)

293 There just aren't enough Priests to go around, and don't even get started on the Nun shortage crisis.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 16, 2018 10:40 AM (mv+Oj)

Again, not really the issue. The problem is that the hierarchy - there is no shortage of bishops and cardinals, is there? - is allowing this to happen and covering it up.

I suspect that at this point that if you are a priest, you are a pedophile has a negative effect on recruiting.

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2018 10:43 AM (Z5y53)

294 Some scenes remain the same throughout time, and this painting reflects that.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 16, 2018 10:43 AM (W+kMI)

295 Paul didn't call for a celibate priesthood. First of all, he didn't call for a priesthood in the first place.

* * *

This is a remarkably silly response.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at August 16, 2018 10:43 AM (ppBhU)

296 Don't start nun, won't be nun."

That's one bad habit, Harriet...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:43 AM (6qErC)

297 Omarosa made life choices that have resulted in her having a LOT of "former close friends".

Don't do what she did, morons.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at August 16, 2018 10:42 AM

---

Don't forget, the clinton's fired her four separate times before "gifting" her to al gore.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 16, 2018 10:44 AM (JUOKG)

298 Twatter has suspended Alex Jones for seven days because rules

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2018 10:44 AM (OLCnA)

299 ''Omarosa made life choices that have resulted in her having a LOT of "former close friends".

Don't do what she did, morons.''

Now she's been tagged as a "dog" by PDT and we all know that once tagged, always tagged. Sad.

Posted by: Tuna at August 16, 2018 10:44 AM (jm1YL)

300 Go back. Take charge.

Posted by: Adriane the Practical Advice Critic ...

I seriously doubt this world or the next is ready for Pope Cavil.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, still kicking at August 16, 2018 10:44 AM (AM1GF)

301 Paul said that ministry was easier if you didn't have family obligations to tend to, which is exactly right - particularly if you have young children. Full-time ministry is very taxing with unpredictable schedules, moving around from place to place, etc. But he didn't prohibit marriage for those in ministry. He said go ahead if that works for you - it doesn't work for me.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 16, 2018 10:44 AM (lwiT4)

302 Can you live without shellfish and bacon?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2018 10:32 AM (wYseH)

No one should have to live without bacon. Or, put another way, I should get all the bacon.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:44 AM (ULoJS)

303 Twatter suspends anyone not leftist nowadays. Alex Jones going to gab.ai would be a plus.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 10:45 AM (ujg0T)

304 Trump to be blamed for Aretha Franklin's death in 3...2..

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 16, 2018 10:45 AM (OLCnA)

305 The young novitiate who entered the nunnery and forswore all future sex, upon donning her vestments said, "This is how civilization ends, not with a bang, but with a wimple."

Posted by: Muldoon at August 16, 2018 10:45 AM (m45I2)

306 They pump up midgets in that house of horrors...#45 you are up next and quit whinging about de plane boss,that's not a meme yet......

Posted by: saf at August 16, 2018 10:45 AM (5IHGB)

307 This is a remarkably silly response."

Restarted, the religious wars have...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:45 AM (6qErC)

308 >> Can you live without shellfish and bacon?

Can you?

Posted by: garrett at August 16, 2018 10:45 AM (aCN2J)

309 Aretha Franklin dead at 76.

John McCain still a dreadful human being.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 16, 2018 10:45 AM (qdG+G)

310 There just aren't enough Priests to go around, and don't even get started on the Nun shortage crisis.

--------

Nun production went off a cliff during the Reformation and it never recovered.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 16, 2018 10:45 AM (uSlc8)

311 299 ''Omarosa made life choices that have resulted in her having a LOT of "former close friends".

Don't do what she did, morons.''

Now she's been tagged as a "dog" by PDT and we all know that once tagged, always tagged. Sad.
Posted by: Tuna at August 16, 2018 10:44 AM (jm1YL)

But when does she get impounded?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 10:45 AM (ujg0T)

312 245. They've been assumed into the RCC. It's called the Ordinariate and their liturgy is pre Vatican 2, so very traditional. The closest parish to me is 20 miles away unfortunately.

Posted by: kallisto at August 16, 2018 10:46 AM (H991r)

313 Nice, Insomniac and Muldoon bringin' the Nun Puns..

Posted by: garrett at August 16, 2018 10:46 AM (aCN2J)

314 Look - I'm not saying the Church has been deliberately and systematically subverted by an implacable enemy of Mankind, and that there are and have been many high-ranking members of the Church who were and are working to destroy it, but....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 10:46 AM (fA1SL)

315 This is a remarkably silly response.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at August 16, 2018 10:43 AM (ppBhU)

How so?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 16, 2018 10:47 AM (lwiT4)

316 For some reason I thought Aretha Franklin was a lot older.

CNN on it though with the empowering of blacks and women with the songs.

Aretha probably just liked to sing but thankfully we've got CNN to explain it to us.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 16, 2018 10:47 AM (4ErVI)

317 In my opinion, there were never enough nuns to go around. Am I right, Cesare?

Posted by: Pope Alexander VI at August 16, 2018 10:47 AM (uSlc8)

318 Isn't there a big Pedo Scandal brewing in the Chicago School system right now?

Posted by: garrett at August 16, 2018 10:47 AM (aCN2J)

319
I think that a sexual attack on a child is something far, far different than homosexuality.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
------------

Well, we quibble about this here. I have adamantly opposed the use of 'pedophile' when referencing these guys. The LGBTQ 'community' like it when that term is used, in fact, insist upon it, because it is sort of a rationalization that implies that the individuals are 'sick', and thus outside of 'normal' LGBTQ behavior.

The fact is that pedophiles are those who abuse pre-pubescent children. That's not what these guys did. They preyed on post-pubescent adolescents.

I understand that applying the term 'pedophile' is satisfying because of the immediate point that they are twisted, repugnant people. But to accept that is to play into the hands of the LGBTQ mafia.

Every time this issue comes to the fore, GLAD et al besiege the MSM to see that they do not use the phrase 'homosexual predator', but rather 'pedophile'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 16, 2018 10:47 AM (CDGwz)

320 I'm not sure what is supposed to be happening over the door. Is the artist making an obscure allegorical/symbolic comment on the canoodling couple, or is he having a bit of fun with the viewers?

Posted by: exdem13 at August 16, 2018 10:47 AM (W+kMI)

321 and forswore all future sex, "

Swearing is bad, dontchaknow?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:47 AM (6qErC)

322 314 What was that book about a secret black mass in the vatican right around Vatican 2?

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at August 16, 2018 10:47 AM (8WLxa)

323 Look - I'm not saying the Church has been deliberately and systematically subverted by an implacable enemy of Mankind, and that there are and have been many high-ranking members of the Church who were and are working to destroy it, but....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters

Frankie Rome had been getting crap for not handling this crap properly to begin with. This doesn't exactly put a feather in his mitre.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, still kicking at August 16, 2018 10:48 AM (AM1GF)

324 No comment.

Posted by: Frankie the Red at August 16, 2018 10:48 AM (89T5c)

325 But the Catholic Church has an institutional problem that other denominations seem to lack. What other difference likely explains that?

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at August 16, 2018 10:41 AM (ppBhU)

The Catholic Church is not just like, say, the Baptists but the priests can't marry. There are 1500 years of traditional difference. The problem is institutional - as in the way the institution is built.

No other denomination has the same type of hierarchical structure and Earthly power enshrined in that structure.

Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2018 10:48 AM (Z5y53)

326

But when does she get impounded?

Flea-dipped and chipped?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 10:48 AM (HaL55)

327 316 For some reason I thought Aretha Franklin was a lot older.

---------

You're thinking of Franklin Roosevelt.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 16, 2018 10:48 AM (uSlc8)

328 I hate them too, but I doubt this guy is a
"Centrist", and I doubt he should remain your friend. If he's THAT
swayed by what is so obviously false.....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 10:35 AM (ujg0T)

I don't have that many life-long friends. Thanks for your thoughts, but I will keep after him. Too good a guy to ignore over politics.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:48 AM (ULoJS)

329 The Church's general ban on married priests is not dogmatic, it's administrative.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at August 16, 2018 10:48 AM (48M9E)

330
First you had nuns. Then activist nuns. Now the SJW types, whose only religion is leftism.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at August 16, 2018 10:48 AM (LOgQ4)

331 323.
REMOVE RED POPE.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 10:48 AM (fA1SL)

332 Pedo Scandal brewing in the Chicago School system "

We'll never know.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:48 AM (6qErC)

333 300 religious and 1,000 victims over 70 years. Roughly 3 victims per religious. You know what the fuck they call that in Hollywood (and probably D.C.)? A one-night party.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 16, 2018 10:49 AM (Evws/)

334 Want to know why Italian infrastructure falls apart? Watch the movie Gomorrah. It's a great expose of the mob corruption that is the fabric of the country. Ass-kicking film.

Posted by: gp at August 16, 2018 10:49 AM (mk9aG)

335 I went ahead and replaced all of the toilets after that, they were 15 years old and the water where we lived in KY was horrible with calcium buildup. "

When we bought our current house, there was one commode that would never work right, plumber said "you just need to replace that thing, it can't be fixed" and I asked him "well just tell me, what actually is wrong with it?"

And he didn't say anything at all, he just pulled off the lid and pointed to the words stamped there, "HECHO EN MEXICO".

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2018 10:49 AM (k1TUh)

336 Public schools are much worse than the Catholic church.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 16, 2018 10:49 AM (89T5c)

337 It sadly comes to mind this morning since I learned of Sister Aretha's passing. (She has a reserved seat in the Heavenly Chorus, never fear!) Dan Ackroyd is the only surviving member of the principal actors and musicians featured in The Blues Brothers. The old sound has by and large departed; only the disciples and fans remain.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 16, 2018 10:50 AM (W+kMI)

338 Public schools are much worse than the Catholic church.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

And yet, the press never seems to howl about that. I wonder why that might be...oh yeah, because no enemies on the Left. (Like that worked out for Kerensky...)

Posted by: Brother Cavil, still kicking at August 16, 2018 10:50 AM (AM1GF)

339 Good grief. Fox just showed the Obamas rocking out to Aretha, and Eric Holder bowing to her.

Thanks, Fox.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:51 AM (ptqGC)

340 Between the Catholic predator pederasts and the government schools predator pederasts, where can kids go just to be kids anymore.

Damn swine.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 16, 2018 10:51 AM (EoRCO)

341 I understand that applying the term 'pedophile' is satisfying
It's also alliterative making it roll off the tongue as an advertising slogan. (I mean that literally; I'm not joking.)

Posted by: andycanuck at August 16, 2018 10:51 AM (Evws/)

342 Aretha dying on the same day the media are trying to protect DEMOCRACY from Drumpf is problematic to say the least.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 16, 2018 10:51 AM (4ErVI)

343 a secret black mass "

So the source of said toilet problems?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:51 AM (6qErC)

344 Dan Ackroyd is the only surviving member of the principal actors and musicians featured in The Blues Brothers.

Whenever I hear Arethra, those scenes go through my mind. One of a kind set of pipes on that woman.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 16, 2018 10:51 AM (lwiT4)

345 I'm 62.
No males in my family have lived past sixty.......*ack *cak *cak *arrrgggh......

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 16, 2018 10:52 AM (xBSm0)

346 There's no shortage of religious, they're just professing to the cloistered and monastic orders so we don't see them in the world.

Posted by: kallisto at August 16, 2018 10:52 AM (H991r)

347 322. Yep. And a conspiracy to depose a traditional Pope and replace him with a 'reformer.'

** SSPX INTENSIFIES **

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 10:52 AM (fA1SL)

348 I wonder what secular orphanages were like from 1947 to 1967?

Posted by: andycanuck at August 16, 2018 10:53 AM (Evws/)

349 Get in the linen closet.

Posted by: Matt Lauer at August 16, 2018 10:53 AM (5jVnA)

350 Look - I'm not saying the Church has been deliberately and systematically subverted by an implacable enemy of Mankind, and that there are and have been many high-ranking members of the Church who were and are working to destroy it, but....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 16, 2018 10:46 AM (fA1SL)

Ann Barnhardt would agree with you -

https://tinyurl.com/yau3v87z

Posted by: Hillary at August 16, 2018 10:53 AM (kqsXK)

351 But there does not seem to be too much debate that the priesthood is teeming with both, which is really odd. I think Paul just turned out to be wrong on this score: the idea of a celibate priesthood stinks on ice; it allows a lot of odd ducks (to put it far more gently than deserved) into the priesthood.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at August 16, 2018 10:33 AM (ppBhU)

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Paul expressed a wish that people could be celibate, so that they could be more committed to God. He *never* called for it to be a requirement to be a minister. On the contrary, he assumed the default was that most people who went into ministry *would* be married, for instance in the pastorals "let him be a man of one wife", "It is better to marry than to burn", etc.

There is *no* scriptural reason for the RCC to have imposed this rule, many centuries after the founding of Christianity, or to refrain from rescinding it. It does stink on ice. It's like lifetime Federal judicial appointments. It might have sounded good at the time, but in reality it's all downsides and no benefits.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at August 16, 2018 10:53 AM (/qEW2)

352 those scenes go through my mind"

Four fried chickens and a coke...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 16, 2018 10:53 AM (6qErC)

353 Oh, and RIP Reefah!

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 16, 2018 10:53 AM (xBSm0)

354 314....

"I never knew you; depart from me, you who practice lawlessness."

Or something to that effect....

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 16, 2018 10:54 AM (w6Kq8)

355 I was telling my son yesterday that I ordered that book - 'I'm Dead, Now What?' You fill out all your bank accounts and life insurance policies, who to call, what you want in your obit, etc. He said he probably won't need it cause I'll never die.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 16, 2018 10:55 AM (lwiT4)

356 Oh ffs.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2018 10:55 AM (/qEW2)

357 304 Trump to be blamed for Aretha Franklin's death in 3...2..
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Next on CNN!! How voting for Trump can give you cancer. Our panel of experts explains how. Also our South African expert on sorcery tells us how to summon lightning to blast alt-Right supporters.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 16, 2018 10:55 AM (W+kMI)

358 322 314 What was that book about a secret black mass in the vatican right around Vatican 2?
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at August 16, 2018 10:47 AM (8WLxa)

You're probably thinking about Malachi Martin's "A Windswept House"

Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2018 10:55 AM (7HtZB)

359 328 I hate them too, but I doubt this guy is a "Centrist", and I doubt he should remain your friend. If he's THAT swayed by what is so obviously false.....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 10:35 AM (ujg0T)

I don't have that many life-long friends. Thanks for your thoughts, but I will keep after him. Too good a guy to ignore over politics.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 10:48 AM (ULoJS)

I get it; life is infinitely more personal than it is political.

However, I have had more than a few people come and go in my life who I thought would be lifelong friends, only to watch them go batshit Left and start denouncing me as a (blank)ist and (blank)ophobe, etc., ad nauseam. Never mind that in our formative years, I always defended them from any bully or any conflict with hostile authority figures, and in the cases of a few of them, accepted their "coming out", even when it completely surprised me.

Something has truly gone wrong with people. :-(

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 10:55 AM (ujg0T)

360

Between the Catholic predator pederasts and the government schools predator pederasts, where can kids go just to be kids anymore.

Damn swine.

We used to go outside and do things like play with other kids and climb trees. But then Mommy decided that was too dangerous and there might be some bad man out there ready to steal her kid the moment it leaves her sight.

Which is ridiculous on its face. Those little creatures are loud, rude, dirty, constantly hungry and fabulously expensive.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 10:55 AM (HaL55)

361 Last night we had "what's so special about Satchmo" and "how does Dylan get away with his fake name," and to-day we will have sainthood for 'Retha. Insert nasty quote about "consistency" right about here.

Almost, virtually, kinda-sorta the inventor of the "Ghetto Aria," she took about six minutes to yowl through the Anthem at Ford Field, and the screaming on here was louder that at the game. Wiki her bio, go to the "Personal Life" heading, and puke your guts out. No details: read it all for yourself. If this woman lived on your block, you'd seriously think about moving, and you would be on here day after day about her being Part of The Problem. Maybe, back in the day, The Problem.
And by next week you'll be back to stock Detroit jokes, on of which she is.
(1) "Respect" is by Otis Redding dammit ("OH but her !version!" Puccini arises from the grave to choke your ass), and (2) let us not be hugely hypocritical just because our Media demand it.

You "mildly dislike" every single aspect of her career and life, some more than others. Wouldn't wish misery on anybody, too bad she died unpleasantly, but seriously people cut the shit. RIP, yes. "I always loved her" sit down, shut up.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2018 10:55 AM (8ZmvG)

362 Can you?

Posted by: garrett at August 16, 2018 10:45 AM (aCN2J)

Yes.

The question isn't: "Can you?" The question is: "Will you?"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 16, 2018 10:55 AM (wYseH)

363 334. the mob dumps nuclear waste all over the Med.

Posted by: kallisto at August 16, 2018 10:56 AM (H991r)

364 >>346 There's no shortage of religious, Posted by: kallisto at August 16, 2018 10:52 AM (H991r)

This is true, but they're filled with imposters, false prophets, fake Jesii, and corrupted theologies. There's only one Jack Lord, and only one Church of the Immaculate Wave.

Posted by: Zod at August 16, 2018 10:56 AM (Bdeb0)

365
For some reason I thought Aretha Franklin was a lot older.
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You're thinking of Franklin Roosevelt.

Benjamin Franklin Pierce

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 16, 2018 10:57 AM (IqV8l)

366 333 300 religious and 1,000 victims over 70 years. Roughly 3 victims per religious. You know what the fuck they call that in Hollywood (and probably D.C.)? A one-night party.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 16, 2018 10:49 AM (Evws/)

Compared to the muslim child rape gang that literally ran the City of Rotherham in the UK. Over 1000 victims in just 15 years in one city.

Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2018 10:57 AM (7HtZB)

367 'I'm Dead, Now What?'
Just like <i>Dead Like Me</i>!

Posted by: andycanuck at August 16, 2018 10:57 AM (Evws/)

368 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 16, 2018 10:40 AM (JUOKG)

The toilets were the first thing I checked. No visible leakage in the tank.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 16, 2018 10:57 AM (mpXpK)

369 339 Good grief. Fox just showed the Obamas rocking out to Aretha, and Eric Holder bowing to her.

Thanks, Fox.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 16, 2018 10:51 AM (ptqGC)

No clip of the ceremony of George W. Bush presenting her the Medal Of Freedom? Yes, President W did in fact do that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 16, 2018 10:57 AM (ujg0T)

370 I seriously doubt this world or the next is ready for Pope Cavil.

PTA chairman for a Catholic school. Knights of Columbus outreach. Parish Council chairman...

Posted by: Adriane the Practical Advice Critic ... at August 16, 2018 10:57 AM (AoK0a)

371 I was telling my son yesterday that I ordered that
book - 'I'm Dead, Now What?' You fill out all your bank accounts and
life insurance policies, who to call, what you want in your obit, etc.
He said he probably won't need it cause I'll never die.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 16, 2018 10:55 AM

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We have ours on spreadsheets on a thumb drive that I keep updated. Account numbers, passwords, insurance policies, etc. The wife's youngest sister also has a copy.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 16, 2018 10:57 AM (JUOKG)

372 292
Jury nullification is a thing. Even though it's in the Constitution, prosecutors and most judges think it's an infamnia

Way to reference the The Godfather!

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 16, 2018 10:57 AM (hqZPQ)

373 The secular reason for priestly celibacy is that the Church wants the priest to give all his loyalty to the priesthood and not to his family.
Never worked that way even back when family was paramount; priests would still be loyal to clan and family anyway.
But in modern era it is hard to understand the importance of blood ties and family obligations.

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at August 16, 2018 10:58 AM (8WLxa)

374 #367 Crap. I'm not on Disqus now.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 16, 2018 10:58 AM (Evws/)

375 One problem with priests getting married to head off pedophilia. They aren t getting caught in cat houses. They are molesting children. One is not the same as the other. Maybe the idea of celibacy attracts those with a predilection for pedophilia?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 16, 2018 10:58 AM (a2vo1)

376 You can't serve both G-d and Mammon. But you CAN serve both Moloch and Mammon.

Ask me how I know.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at August 16, 2018 10:58 AM (AzW6q)

377
The toilets were the first thing I checked. No visible leakage in the tank

Improve your aim.

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 16, 2018 10:59 AM (xBSm0)

378 >>Good grief. Fox just showed the Obamas rocking out to Aretha, and Eric Holder bowing to her.

Here's the thing. Fox sucks worse than this painting.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 16, 2018 10:59 AM (r9UYA)

379 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 16, 2018 10:59 AM (w6Kq8)

380 ell, we quibble about this here. I have adamantly opposed the use of 'pedophile' when referencing these guys. The LGBTQ 'community' like it when that term is used, in fact, insist upon it, because it is sort of a rationalization that implies that the individuals are 'sick', and thus outside of 'normal' LGBTQ behavior.

^^^^^^ THIS
The use of 'pedophile' language is a smokescreen for the underlying predatory homosexual activity.

Yes - there is a minority percentage of true 'child' abusers and those who molest females...but that is not the majority of these cases.

Lets say you had an all-male faculty at a high school
and I told you that there were 20 cases of sexual abuse of students. What would you expect the demographics of the victims to be ? That is not the case in the RCC.

Posted by: McCool at August 16, 2018 10:59 AM (sZaoP)

381 The Pennsylvania Catholic child molestation and cover-up story.

I am not Catholic. But I have a deep appreciation for the Catholic Church. I mean, Peter. Upon this rock. An institution that dates literally back to the time of Jesus. I love the fact that Roman Empire tried to end Christianity, and the Throne of St. Peter is in Rome, and the Roman Empire is dead.

And yet...

This. And it isn't like this is the first time. I thought in the 90s that Pope JPII would come to America and bring out his Papal Banhammer. But then he was too ill. This happens in too many places. And the Church fights too hard for the Church and avoids God.

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As a Catholic, this whole situation makes me sick. And explains one of the reasons that I only support my local parish.

One of the tenants of the Catholic Church is "forgiveness." Plus, there is a shortage of priests. Put those two things together, and you have a recipe for disaster.

There is also the fact that because of said "shortage," many might not have been accepted into the clergy are now given the OK. Also, there are those who want to Church to cure them of their homosexual/ pedo feelings. Which it does not do. Finally, there is the fact that a "shortage" also means that those less than ethical people can enter the priesthood with the sole intent of being close to children and molesting them, and can easily get away with it.

It all makes me sick.

Posted by: shibumi at August 16, 2018 10:59 AM (SbIX4)

382 368 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 16, 2018 10:40 AM (JUOKG)

The toilets were the first thing I checked. No visible leakage in the tank."

Well the greatest nightmare of all is a cracked pipe underground. Doesn't happen very often, but when it does, it's a bitch to track down. Hope you don't have that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2018 10:59 AM (k1TUh)

383 Chelz doesn't serve mammon. She thinks money is icky.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 16, 2018 11:00 AM (uSlc8)

384 Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2018 10:55 AM (8ZmvG)

So you are ambivalent?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Deplatformed? Media Platforms of Genuine Balderdash Available at The Outrage Outlet at August 16, 2018 11:00 AM (hLRSq)

385 344 Dan Ackroyd is the only surviving member of the principal actors and musicians featured in The Blues Brothers.

Whenever I hear Arethra, those scenes go through my mind. One of a kind set of pipes on that woman.
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That's right grammy. That movie revived the old musical as an ensemble R-and-B/soul concert and rocked out. I have the movie on DVD, but I fondly remember seeing it in the early Nineties as a late-night Saturday showing. Audience sang along and was dancing in their seats. Good times.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 16, 2018 11:00 AM (W+kMI)

386 You're probably thinking about Malachi Martin's "A Windswept House"

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Yep!
Thanks josephistan!

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at August 16, 2018 11:01 AM (8WLxa)

387 More fake news on the day of the anti-PDT united-front editorials...
https://twitter.com/pspoole/status/
1029841968246018049

Posted by: andycanuck at August 16, 2018 11:01 AM (Evws/)

388 339: Jane, Fox has sucked for years. Their new "management" just decided they no longer have to hide their disdain for the great unwashed. Eff them sideways with a lit bunsen burner.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 16, 2018 11:01 AM (KP5rU)

389 Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2018 10:55 AM (8ZmvG)

Better have a nice cup of tea before you stroke out there, Stringer.

Not that I have any dog in the fight. Aretha was a singer. No more, no less.

Posted by: Hillary at August 16, 2018 11:01 AM (kqsXK)

390 As a Catholic I'm sickened by the scandals and I have mixed emotions. They let homos into the seminaries--probably because there was a shrinkage of the priest pool--figuring that if straight men can be asked to stay celibate, why can't homos?
But it doesn't work that way.
Another thing that bugs me is that--despite having attending 12 years of Catholic school--including 4 years in an all-Boys HS--I can only recall two cases( which arose years later) and in BOTH cases, the victims were known homosexuals who had made a mess of their lives and sued decades later. Most of the victims--I won't say all--were willing participants because I can tell you that if any priest had tried that with any straight kid I went to school with, he'd have gotten beaten--collar or no collar.
It's sad all the way around and it depresses me and I hope they straighten it out---I'd go with married priests to increase the pool of potential priests, but not women priests. Conversion is out of the question for me, because these sorts of things happen within all faiths and within all institutions where fags are allowed access to young boys.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 16, 2018 11:02 AM (y8Foj)

391 Nood ape.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 16, 2018 11:03 AM (kG5hP)

392 Dammit! Off, scankled sock!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 16, 2018 11:03 AM (kqsXK)

393 There would, in theory, be as many opportunities to molest a 15 or 16 year old girl as well, were it sex-driven only.

I think they choose boys because boys aren't likely to tell from their own embarrassment. Girls talk and wind up preggo, so there is no denying it at that point.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 16, 2018 10:34 AM (w6Kq

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I don't know the stats, but I think girls are equally if not more ashamed of divulging that they have suffered abuse. They don't talk. And if these guys weren't homos they wouldn't find boys a desirable target in the first place.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at August 16, 2018 11:04 AM (/qEW2)

394 How so?

* * *

I think the idea that Paul merely said "go ahead if that works for you - it doesn't work for me," as you put it, does not take Paul very seriously.

1 Cor. 7-8: "I wish all people were like me . . . I'm telling those who are single and widows that it's good for them to stay single like me." He advises marriage only if you cannot control yourself in Verse 9, not if they'd just prefer non-celibacy or find it more agreeable. Then he goes on in Verse 25: "I don't have a command from the Lord about people who have never been married, but I'll give you my opinion as someone you can trust because of the Lord's mercy. So I think this advice is good because of the present crisis: Stay as you are." Then in Verses 32-35 he elaborates that the married are distracted from God by the concerns of the world. Paul makes it pretty clear that celibacy is preferable, if possible; in Verse 38, he says one who marries does right, but that "one who doesn't get married will do even better."

None of this is about priests specifically. But it would be weird not to read this as being particularly pertinent to them, given Paul's characterization of marriage as a distraction from God.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at August 16, 2018 11:04 AM (iys0/)

395 PTA chairman for a Catholic school. Knights of Columbus outreach. Parish Council chairman...

Posted by: Adriane the Practical Advice Critic ...

I think I need to start with "recovering lapsed Catholic" first. Baby steps...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, still kicking at August 16, 2018 11:04 AM (AM1GF)

396 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 16, 2018 11:00 AM (uSlc

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Listen: of late I've learned to concern myself greatly with economic benefit. It's not just about me and my riches... I want America's dirty, filthy poors to derive financial gain from child murder.

Maybe, if they murder enough kids, they can make enough money to "give back."

To the CGI, of course.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at August 16, 2018 11:04 AM (AzW6q)

397 'goodbye Good Man' is a book that describes the commie infiltration of the RCC. In the late 1960s seminaries rejected devout men in favor of 'progressive' candidates. Essentially NAMBLA got a foothold in the priesthood and perps were sent to pedo rehab and reassigned instead of being shot at dawn.

Posted by: kallisto at August 16, 2018 11:04 AM (H991r)

398 As with any organization or activity , once it is infiltrated with a certain identity, it grows that identity within that group. For instance, the manager of my local grocery store is middle eastern. After about six months of him starting there, most of the employees were middle eastern.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp patiently waiting at August 16, 2018 11:05 AM (shMPn)

399 It's remarkable that we now have the former directors of the FBI, CIA and the DNI under investigation for attempting to rig an election and when that failed commit a soft coup and the media is almost universally supporting them.

Interesting times indeed.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2018 11:05 AM (/tuJf)

400 Jury nullification is a thing. Even though it's in the Constitution, prosecutors and most judges think it's an infamnia

Way to reference the The Godfather!

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 16, 2018 10:57 AM (hqZPQ)

In many courtrooms they'll throw you in jail for even bringing it up. It depends on the judge. You can literally taint the entire jury pool by bringing it up in front of everyone when it's your turn to answer questions.

They've turned into such giant dicks about the whole process that I encourage everyone to remember that it's entirely legal to nullify a jury and that it has a history here going back to colonial days.

Possibly one way to get around mentioning it directly is to mention some court cases associated with it. The judge and the lawyers will know exactly what you mean but no one else will.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 16, 2018 11:05 AM (4ErVI)

401 When I think of Aretha Franklin I think of the Blues brothers movie. She was great in that movie. Of course everyone in that movie was great.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 16, 2018 11:05 AM (mpXpK)

402 361; Thanks, Stringer. Needed to be said.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 16, 2018 11:05 AM (KP5rU)

403 I went ahead and replaced all of the toilets after that, they were 15 years old and the water where we lived in KY was horrible with calcium buildup.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 16, 2018 10:40 AM (JUOKG)

Heavy mineral buildup will cause them to stop working properly. Way to tell is dump a bucket of water in the bowl, if that makes it clear it is time to replace it.

As an aside, great father-son bonding experience to have your pre-teen sons help you throw the old one out the second floor window.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 16, 2018 11:05 AM (kUmUV)

404

Not that I have any dog in the fight. Aretha was a singer. No more, no less.

I got to see her sing live once. We were playing in an adjacent room at the HOB down here and she was in the main auditorium. We walked through the kitchen and when we got in the big room, everybody was sweltering in the heat. The A/C had been turned off at her request due to her health.

Lots of unhappy fans. And she was late to start, too. Still got to hear her sing.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2018 11:05 AM (HaL55)

405 You know, back when I was a young 'un in the halcyon days of Jimmy the Peanut and Ronaldus Magnus, a not uncommon story was the forbidden love between a handsome priest and a desperate/lonely/nun woman. Made for a romantic weepie or an occasional murder mystery. I haven't seen that sort of story in almost 30 years. But now there are repeated news stories about predatory gay priests, decidedly ignored by Hollywood.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 16, 2018 11:07 AM (W+kMI)

406 Ace of Spades-

Come for the chamber pots, stay for the theology

Posted by: Muldoon at August 16, 2018 11:07 AM (m45I2)

407 295
Silly? How?

The "priesthood" has been a millstone around the neck of the true community of Christians since it started. Just another bureaucracy IMHO.

Now that is not to smear individuals committed to Christ's teachings.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 16, 2018 11:09 AM (FTPVM)

408 Also, Grammie, I should not have said "remarkably silly." I strongly disagree, but I should have characterized by disagreement otherwise. Sorry for that.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at August 16, 2018 11:09 AM (iys0/)

409 386 You're probably thinking about Malachi Martin's "A Windswept House"

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Yep!
Thanks josephistan!
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at August 16, 2018 11:01 AM (8WLxa)

When you read some of the accounts from the PA AG report, they go beyond usual accounts of abuse of minors, some of them are deliberate mockeries of the Church. They're Satanic. It makes one wonder if Malachi Martin was right about that.

Posted by: josephistan at August 16, 2018 11:10 AM (7HtZB)

410 My mom had two older brothers who became priests back in the 50s (proto-Irish Catholic Chicago family), but both left the priesthood pretty early on. Gotta wonder what happened there but can't bring myself to investigate.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 16, 2018 11:11 AM (hqZPQ)

411 Father likes to sip on a cold one after mass.

Posted by: Alter Boy with junk in ice water at August 16, 2018 11:14 AM (FTPVM)

412 My mom had two older brothers who became priests back in the 50s (proto-Irish Catholic Chicago family), but both left the priesthood pretty early on. Gotta wonder what happened there but can't bring myself to investigate.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 16, 2018 11:11 AM (hqZPQ)

A friend of mine had an uncle who left the priesthood early too.
Yeah, he turned out to be a homo.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 16, 2018 11:14 AM (y8Foj)

413 The "priesthood" has been a millstone around the neck of the true community of Christians since it started. Just another bureaucracy IMHO.

Now that is not to smear individuals committed to Christ's teachings.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 16, 2018 11:09 AM (FTPVM)

Yes, but the RCC is a huge, wealthy, ancient institution , a massive top-down organization and they are not just going to stop having priests, bishops, etc. who are under the control of Rome.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 16, 2018 11:16 AM (y8Foj)

414 You you think your toilet has a slow leak from the flapper?

Assuming that your toilet and tank have clear water in them, place several drops of food coloring in the tank.

Do NOT flush it.

Come back in an hour or so, depending on the amount of food coloring that you added.

If your bowl water is beginning to change to the same color as the tank water....

you have a flapper leak.

Or, your fill valve is leaking by, and causing water to flow over the tank stand pipe, into the bowl.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 16, 2018 11:20 AM (wldC6)

415 So you are ambivalent?

Posted by: Mikey NTH

Thanks for noticing! You know, I am, kind of.

I'm "from the neighborhood." I like soul music, though she's not my...cup of tea.
As far as my "stroking out," Mary Poppins, read what I wrote.Read it again, and move your lips, so you'll get that comprehension thing.
We will have a little chat another time. I did not start this.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 16, 2018 11:20 AM (8ZmvG)

416 It's remarkable that we now have the former directors of the FBI, CIA and the DNI under investigation for attempting to rig an election and when that failed commit a soft coup and the media is almost universally supporting them.

Interesting times indeed.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 16, 2018 11:05 AM (/tuJf)

Don't know so much about Clapper and Brennan being under investigation, unless you are counting oversight hearings.

Posted by: Matt Lauer at August 16, 2018 11:21 AM (5jVnA)

417 >>Good grief. Fox just showed the Obamas rocking out to Aretha, and Eric Holder bowing to her.

Here's the thing. Fox sucks worse than this painting.
I think Fox has two Trump supporters, Hannity and Lou Dobbs. Everyone else is against.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Indians fan at August 16, 2018 11:21 AM (ULoJS)

418 405 You know, back when I was a young 'un in the halcyon days of Jimmy the Peanut and Ronaldus Magnus, a not uncommon story was the forbidden love between a handsome priest and a desperate/lonely/nun woman. Made for a romantic weepie or an occasional murder mystery. I haven't seen that sort of story in almost 30 years. But now there are repeated news stories about predatory gay priests, decidedly ignored by Hollywood.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 16, 2018 11:07 AM (W+kMI)

They killed that story off by doing the 'Flying Nun'...

Posted by: Don Q. at August 16, 2018 11:26 AM (NgKpN)

419 love this one so much...

it's remarkably well composed and demonstrates a playful sense of geometry and color...

it's called "at the linen closet" and the theme is pretty obviously about the mundane endeavor to maintain orderliness in the whirl...

juxtaposed with the impish little girl and her putter...
and the tiny little square patch of blue sky really sells it...
thank you Mr. CBD for all you do

Posted by: happyfeet at August 16, 2018 12:13 PM (mLfQi)

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