Weekend Gun Thread

(Happy now bluebell?)

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My interest in guns was secondary to my interest in hunting. How many of you hunt? How many of you don't? There is no wrong answer. But, I would suspect there is extra hate for you from the SJW crowd if you both own guns and hunt animals.

Hunting and the 2nd Amendment. They should go hand in hand.

My take? Siler is one of those who likes guns well enough but doesn’t care enough about the Second Amendment to want to defend it. If he did, he’d understand that while the talk is round capacity today, it’ll be something else tomorrow.
In countries with strict gun control but still some civilian access, we’re already seeing their brand of gun grabbers calling for more. Just look at Toronto right now. This is what happens. It’s never enough

Reliving some of our first deer hunts.

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I just found this in the "Inbox" from Moron Bert. G. He thought I should pass along to the Horde.

I got an email just a few minutes ago from the USMC Scout Sniper Association. They are having a raffle for a rifle, but with a week to go are not close to reaching their goal for $10,000 so I thought it might be worth mentioning in the gun thread.
Here's a link to the raffle: https://go.rallyup.com/usmcssarifle
Here's the text of the email:

You received a message about this fundraiser:
USMC Scout Sniper Benefit Event
Here's what the organizer had to say:
Hello everyone!
We're nearing the end of the USMC Scout Sniper Association Benefit raffle. Thanks to everyone who's bought into it.
There is one admin thing we need to take care of, and after talking with the CEO of the Association, Jessie Fletcher, we've decided that it's best to ask for everyone's opinion so that we all have an equal say in how to proceed.
Obviously, we're only 38% of the way to our goal of $10,000.00 right now (that's $3875 for the knuckle draggers). The total cost of the entire package is $8700.00 If we reach that goal, the package will stay complete and the balance will go to the Association for their needs. However, it doesn't look like we're going to reach that. Jessie and I have decided that, if the majority of you guys agree, the package will be pro-rated accordingly. If the dollar amount stays the same as it is right now, we propose taking $2700 of that and letting the winner choose what he/she wants from the package that best meets that dollar amount. The rest (approximately $1000) will be sent to the Association for their use.

We're asking that you guys respond to this email (drop dead date for responses is Wednesday, 1 August, 1800 CDT) and let us know if you're ok with that. To give the situation a little more reference, the other raffle the Association had going (and that just ended) raised about the same amount of money as we currently have. Though I don't believe their package was as big as ours. So it seems that the industry is seeing a down-trend. Nevertheless, we want to make sure everyone has an equal say in how it's handled and that the winner enjoys their winnings. If you have any questions, please respond to this email or send one directly to us (sales@kiotecorp.com, ceo@scoutsniper.org) and we'll help you as much as possible.

Thanks again & STA Violent!

Respectfully,

John Stewart (former 0351, 3/7 L Co. Wpns Plt)
Owner/Engineer
Kiote Rifles

Double barrel AR

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Educational and fun, Practical urban carbine.

PUC is a mid-level course. Students are expected to have good fundamentals and familiarity with their gear. The purpose of the course is not a precision course, but to better understand the capabilities and grouping of your chosen zero at various distances. Good fundamentals allow students to best utilize and benefit from the content of this course.

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Thank God I have small hands or; I might be purchasing this revolver.

Alaska is a place that many of us dream of going. I’ve wanted to see the state ever since I can remember. The mountains and the wilderness call to me, but alas I’m not in a place in life to make such a journey. Instead, I decided to live vicariously and review the simply awesome Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan double action revolver chambered in .454 Casull/.45 Colt to get me through until I can make it up there.

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Home defense? Granny stops bad guy with a .22. He will live to tell about it.

Around 6:40 p.m. in St. Pauls, N.C., a woman came home to some unexplained noises in her storage building. While armed, she walked into the building and saw James Dority, age 39, standing in the corner. The next thing she knew, he was “lunging at her” in “an aggressive manner.”
She shot him five times with, according to the one report, a .22-caliber gun. When deputies arrived, they found Dority lying on the ground with non-life-threatening wounds. He’s now recovering in a hospital.

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Quite the find. Large find of historical firearms.

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300 yards? WOW, just WOW.

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Hoppes #9, spare .38 Special ammo, clay pigeons, tips and stories to petmorons at gmail dot com. Not interested in canoe ride shares.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 07:33 PM

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1 first?

Posted by: lin-duh at July 29, 2018 07:33 PM (kufk0)

2 Bang!

Posted by: BigZesty at July 29, 2018 07:34 PM (ZSMkK)

3 Honest to god got my 1911 because of Magnum PI

Posted by: Skip at July 29, 2018 07:34 PM (pHfeF)

4 I even sort of read the content...

Posted by: lin-duh at July 29, 2018 07:34 PM (kufk0)

5 Now there is some man candy!

1st time I was interested in the gun thread.

Bluebell has good taste.

Posted by: playtpus, gg channel at July 29, 2018 07:34 PM (hCbo0)

6 ok, I looked at Tom Selleck...

Posted by: lin-duh at July 29, 2018 07:34 PM (kufk0)

7 ok, I looked at Tom Selleck...
Posted by: lin-duh at July 29, 2018 07:34 PM (kufk0)

Yes, Tom Selleck, then posted. I missed the rest of the post. Was there more?

Posted by: playtpus, gg channel at July 29, 2018 07:36 PM (hCbo0)

8 Post disappeared?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Really Here at July 29, 2018 07:38 PM (EhZNT)

9 I've never hunted wild game. Seems like too much work.

Posted by: Ronster at July 29, 2018 07:38 PM (gUyyG)

10 that one worked. Prolly user error.

Wasn't really saying anything anyway.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Really Here at July 29, 2018 07:39 PM (EhZNT)

11 Quail Hunting , FTW!

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 29, 2018 07:39 PM (t82DG)

12 I shoot and hunt. I am pretty good at shooting targets but I am not a good hunter if bringing home meat is the measure. Spending quiet time in the woods is something I enjoy so I will keep doing it anyways.

Posted by: X-ray at July 29, 2018 07:40 PM (QQ7V7)

13 Finally putting new sights on the VP9. The nights sights just don't cut it. Not enough contrast for me.

Posted by: Marcus t at July 29, 2018 07:40 PM (CZCde)

14 Hey everybody. I finally have a legit gun thread question.

I've seen pics of 3D-printed guns. They almost always look like they're made out of some type of thick plastic.

My question is: sure it's great that 3D printing will enable people to make their own weapons, but how durable have these weapons turned out to be so far? I would bet many 3D-printed guns can't be fired too many times, before they would explode apart.

Or do you just get around the 'durability' issue by making a ton of them and use them one after the other?

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2018 07:40 PM (km8m2)

15 Yay! HordeMail works! Hat tip to Blanco Basura for setting it up!

Posted by: Bert G at July 29, 2018 07:42 PM (yzxic)

16 My father's family hunts, my maternal grandfather did too. For them it was protein. So I'm perfectly okay with it, and have to stifle my eyerolling when I see people decompensating at the very idea.

Posted by: Dr Alice at July 29, 2018 07:42 PM (LaT54)

17 Never been hunting, aside from accompanying my buddy and his dad, who would go mule deer hunting. I would sometimes hang around my dad as he butchered the deer he got. Me and my brothers would dare each other to poke the eyeballs, and we would have sword fights with the severed lower legs. Somehow we were never traumatized by the carnage.

Dad stopped hunting by the time I was old enough. I have a Mossberg .30-06 that I have zeroed, but have not shot all that much otherwise. Nice weapon, though. Ammo costs a shit-0ton of dough.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Really Here at July 29, 2018 07:43 PM (EhZNT)

18 12 I shoot and hunt. I am pretty good at shooting targets but I am not a good hunter if bringing home meat is the measure. Spending quiet time in the woods is something I enjoy so I will keep doing it anyways.
Posted by: X-ray at July 29, 2018 07:40 PM (QQ7V7

As I get older, I find the killing more and more, let's just say I'm not as enthusiastic about it.

Last year I missed my first whitetail deer hunt since 1981 I wasn't overly heartbroken about it.

I do enjoy walking with the dog and a shotgun looking for ruffed grouse.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 29, 2018 07:43 PM (3Pma+)

19 With even modest success in hunting and fishing, one can keep a good freezer-full of tasty cuts of various game.

This ties into the food thread, (kinda)... in that having an even broader variety of meats serves greatly to keep the kitchen a lively, interesting place of happy surprises, the year round.

Plus, the satisfaction of having literally "brought home the bacon", as it were.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 29, 2018 07:45 PM (QzJWU)

20 I haven't been hunting for over 29 years. I did as a kid with my Pa Pa. He taught me to fish and hunt.

Cool gun pic I stumbled across:

https://tinyurl.com/ow4eqtw

Posted by: f'd at July 29, 2018 07:46 PM (UdKB7)

21 As you know, the 2nd is not about hunting. As a lifetime NRA member the 2nd is the corner stone of the Bill of Rights. But I do hunt. Deer in Iowa and Minnesota where I own a small cabin on a lake near Bemidji. Deer in the northwoods is more challenging, I use a 357 lever action carbine up there. 180 grain semijacketed flat point

Also rabbits, pleasants, and varmints on my little farm with a Rossi 62 22LR. Hunting sharpens the skills of patience, stalking, and careful shot opportunities. "I am guided by the beauty of our weapons."

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 29, 2018 07:46 PM (enccL)

22 The current designs for printed ABS guns are not really intended to be practical. They are more to get the idea out there and force the legal and social issues to the front.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at July 29, 2018 07:47 PM (4jqDR)

23 I'm happy now. Hope Bluebell is, too.

Posted by: Emmie at July 29, 2018 07:47 PM (4HMW8)

24 My, My, My, bluebell and the rest of us split tails.

Posted by: Infidel at July 29, 2018 07:49 PM (xtW/d)

25 Nice gun thread, Mis Hum.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 29, 2018 07:49 PM (TxgK1)

26 22 The current designs for printed ABS guns are not really intended to be practical. They are more to get the idea out there and force the legal and social issues to the front.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at July 29, 2018 07:47 PM (4jqDR)

That's my impression. The schemes that end up with you having a practical gun are mostly just printed lower receivers to which you're supposed to bolt on a bunch of standard manufactured parts.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 07:50 PM (h2Bdk)

27 Yumm, Tom Selleck. And before he started hawking reverse mortgages. I will remember him as Magnum and forget the Tom of today.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at July 29, 2018 07:50 PM (N3JsI)

28 I have no moral or ethical objections to hunting, I just don't happen to enjoy it.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at July 29, 2018 07:51 PM (4jqDR)

29 27 Yumm, Tom Selleck. And before he started hawking reverse mortgages. I will remember him as Magnum and forget the Tom of today.
Posted by: never enough caffeine at July 29, 2018 07:50 PM (N3JsI)

Blue Bloods isn't bad. He looks quite a bit younger than he is (he is, in fact, only seven years younger than the guy who plays his dad), but he moves like an old man.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 07:51 PM (h2Bdk)

30 I run across a lot of Doe during Buck only seasons.

Posted by: X-ray at July 29, 2018 07:52 PM (QQ7V7)

31 Never hunted.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2018 07:52 PM (NWiLs)

32 I love to shoot, but I have never actually been hunting. Just too much of an ol' softy, and it seems like a lot of work.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 07:52 PM (MVjcR)

33 The picture up top reminded me that, when the show Magnum P.I. first aired, the Vietnam War was still a very recent memory. I heard that it's being re-booted, so I suppose this current generation's Magnum will have played in the Sand Box.

Mrs Cop wanted to go shooting today and she kept the majority of hits inside the 0-ring of an IDPA target at about 10 yards. Misses went low into the abdomen/pelvic area so remind me never to piss her off.

I took the Auto-Ordnance .45 Auto that I inherited from the Old Man; he bought it new in 1983 and didn't shoot it much.The only thing I did was lube it well (the steel was so bone-dry, the steel was soaking up the oil) and put some walnut copies of the GI "Double Diamond" grips on it (the factory grips are an unattractive brown-black plastic). The only .45ACP I've been shooting has been my Glock model 36 and it's been about 15 years since I've shot a full-sized M1911 clone. The felt recoil seemed substantially less -- not really surprising once I thought about how much more the M1911 weighs compared to the G36.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 29, 2018 07:53 PM (5Yee7)

34 20 I haven't been hunting for over 29 years. I did as a kid with my Pa Pa. He taught me to fish and hunt.

Cool gun pic I stumbled across:

https://tinyurl.com/ow4eqtw
Posted by: f'd at July 29, 2018 07:46 PM (UdKB7)

Good illustration of why you want to keep your fingers away from the front of the cylinder.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 07:53 PM (h2Bdk)

35 It seems that most hunters have a family tradition passed on to them. My father had hunted as a boy and then given it up, supposedly because he felt bad about not being able to retrieve a deer he'd hit. (Family lore is unreliable).

I tried to teach myself hunting in my 30s. I had some fair success murdering waterfowl from a kayak. I managed two grouse from hundreds of hours tramping through the woods. And as for deer hunting, well I have carried a rifle in the woods during deer season.

It seems like a different culture from fishing culture. Fishing you can usually find someone to hook up with and explore and share things. It's hard to find a true fishing partner, but it can be done. I have one. But the process is sort of open.

You don't just get invited to someone's deer camp. Someone's deer camp is their sacred thing. It's mostly, as far as I can tell, not about deer. But it's also about deer and I haven't found people to share that with the way I have with fishing people.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2018 07:53 PM (fuK7c)

36 Yeah, the Leftards will hate you more if you are a Hunter. But, so what? They were gonna hate you anyway.

That said, I find it amazing that a whole lot of them will argue "You don't need that gun for hunting".

It is almost as if they choose to be willfully hypocritical and ignorant.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 29, 2018 07:53 PM (I16G8)

37 To clarify, I have no objection to it I've just never done it.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2018 07:53 PM (NWiLs)

38 OOH LA LA! Yes indeed I am, MisHum, you dollbaby, you! Thank you.

And now I forgive you for that cheesecake photo last week

Posted by: bluebell at July 29, 2018 07:54 PM (JJZzu)

39 Just bought 3 raffle tickets. Put in a good word for me please Bert G.!

Posted by: IrishEi at July 29, 2018 07:54 PM (Ri0Ku)

40 Double barrel AR

Twice the evil! That might be worth buying just to piss off the usual suspects.

Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 07:55 PM (sdi6R)

41 Having said that, I think I'd like duck hunting. Probably not the duck killing part, but getting out early and sitting in a duck blind with a thermos of coffee, a shotgun and WeaselDog.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 07:56 PM (MVjcR)

42 My Island of Misfit Surplus Weapons has a new resident.

I liberated a Cz 82 which was languishing in a local pawn shop in my AO, chambered in Makarov 9mm, with one magazine.

Made in 1983 in the old commie Czechoslovakia.

It was a good price, $219.00, but was missing the slide stop and slide stop spring.

I procured both before I bought it, just to make sure the parts were not like hen's teeth. I found both at Buymilsurp.com which have odd, hard to find items for old surplus guns.

Replaced slide stop and slide stop spring, which was a bit of a chore, but after a nice cleaning she runs fine while few dry firing and I will take her out on my next pistol shoot and put her through her paces.

She seems to appreciate her new home and now to get a couple of extra magazines to help keep her fed and happy.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 29, 2018 07:56 PM (EoRCO)

43 If you have a couple hundred grand you can 3d print metal guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7ZYKMBDm4M

Posted by: X-ray at July 29, 2018 07:57 PM (QQ7V7)

44 You can't hunt here unless you know someone with many acres of free woodland or you are a member of a hunting club. Everything is posted as I found out shooting doves on a cornfield someone told me was open.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 29, 2018 07:58 PM (mpXpK)

45
Clint Eastwood is 88.

Sean Connery will be 88 in 4 weeks.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 29, 2018 07:58 PM (C23g2)

46 I know that parts for rocket engines are being 3D printed now. The technology is advancing and maturing.

Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 07:58 PM (sdi6R)

47 300 yards for those clay pigeons is very impressive BUT that would be child's play for our Weasel.

Posted by: bluebell at July 29, 2018 07:59 PM (JJZzu)

48 I don't hunt much anymore. When I was young, I'd go out with my older cousin sometimes. My parents were terrified of guns, so never got the real family connection.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 07:59 PM (xJa6I)

49 I love to shoot, but I have never actually been hunting. Just too much of an ol' softy, and it seems like a lot of work.
Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 07:52 PM (MVjcR)

Same here; I just tell people that I'm not opposed to the concept of hunting, I just don't feel like getting up at "Zero Dark Thirty" since I'm not in the Army any more. I've been noticing A LOT of rabbits, squirrels and even a skunk coming around the house and I live at the edge of a smallish city (population 8000) this summer. I may have to break out the pellet rifle to thin-out the herds.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 29, 2018 07:59 PM (5Yee7)

50 I've been shooting since I was 9 years old but I never got into hunting even though my father hunted. He took me deer hunting once when I was 12. I got a young buck with a good clean shot. My father taught me how to field dress it and was very excited for me. I took no pleasure in it, it was a beautiful creature.

Posted by: Guzalot at July 29, 2018 07:59 PM (schB/)

51
Just bought 3 raffle tickets. Put in a good word for me please Bert G.!

Posted by: IrishEi at July 29, 2018 07:54 PM (Ri0Ku)

Apart from having bought tickets several weeks ago, I have nothing to do with it. I just thought it was a shame that they were so far unable to raise much money, so I figured I'd try to publicize it some.

Posted by: Bert G at July 29, 2018 08:00 PM (yzxic)

52 23 I'm happy now. Hope Bluebell is, too.
Posted by: Emmie at July 29, 2018 07:47 PM (4HMW

Word has it she is hard to please, the reason for the shiv

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 29, 2018 08:00 PM (3Pma+)

53 From last night Flash Gordon was on Comet TV, but only caught last 20 minutes. Are we sure it was watchable?

Posted by: Skip at July 29, 2018 08:01 PM (pHfeF)

54 Quail Hunting > Dove shoots > Deer hunting > Duck Hunting > Turkey Hinting > Coon hunting

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 29, 2018 08:02 PM (t82DG)

55 On the hunting question, I enjoy getting into the woods, but I haven't killed anything in several years other than the rattler that decided it wanted to hang out under my stand early last season. That space is reserved for my dog, who likes to snooze there.

Posted by: Bert G at July 29, 2018 08:02 PM (yzxic)

56 41 Having said that, I think I'd like duck hunting. Probably not the duck killing part, but getting out early and sitting in a duck blind with a thermos of coffee, a shotgun and WeaselDog.
Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 07:56 PM (MVjcR)

Thermos of coffee, the dog and a boat, not much better than that.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 29, 2018 08:02 PM (3Pma+)

57 47 300 yards for those clay pigeons is very impressive BUT that would be child's play for our Weasel.

Posted by: bluebell at July 29, 2018 07:59 PM (JJZzu)
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I dunno -the article said they're moving!

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:02 PM (jXBkn)

58 My favorite part of my hunting phase was a relationship with an ex-girlfriend. She was a Cordon Bleu trained chef, working as a software developer. We had stayed on good terms.

So I would kill something and bring it to her and she would try to figure out how it was worth eating. Tried sea ducks (nope, no matter what), regular teal and mallards (yum), Canada geese (sometimes).

Fish was a no-brainer, she did amazing things with striped bass.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2018 08:03 PM (fuK7c)

59 Yesterday, I bought 'my last pistol', a PPQ 45. Used, former range rental...so it might be a bit worn. But the price was killer, under $500 + tax. Hard to find a PPQ 45 for that price.

Like the PPQ 9mm I own, it shoots like magic.

It's a little too lightweight but the stippling on the grip is snug enough. Accurate enough to shoot eyes out at 10 meters. Bizarrely, the grip is the exact size as the 9mm version or so close I can't feel the diff. Only instead of 15/17 rounds of 9mm, it holds 12 rounds of 45.

I'm going to be re-taking the General Defense Handgun course in two weeks with it. Just bought 4 spare mags (damn expensive at $40 a pop) for it.

This may very well be the last pistol for a good long time.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:03 PM (xJa6I)

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59 Yesterday, I bought 'my last pistol', a PPQ 45. Used, former range rental...so it might be a bit worn. But the price was killer, under $500 + tax. Hard to find a PPQ 45 for that price.
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This may very well be the last pistol for a good long time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:03 PM (xJa6I

Boy, that tune changed quickly

Glad you found something you like very much

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 29, 2018 08:04 PM (3Pma+)

61 'Are we sure it was watchable?'

I watched it and saw nothing deeper than cheese. I think A.H. Lloyd was pulling our legs

Posted by: f'd at July 29, 2018 08:04 PM (UdKB7)

62 43 If you have a couple hundred grand you can 3d print metal guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7ZYKMBDm4M
Posted by: X-ray at July 29, 2018 07:57 PM (QQ7V7)

If you're going to spend that kind of money why not buy a 3 axis CNC mill and make it that way?

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 08:05 PM (h2Bdk)

63 I was going to ask the horde if there was a such thing as a double-barreled AR-15, but I see that MisHum answered my question before I could ask it.

Posted by: Surfperch at July 29, 2018 08:05 PM (BHRUO)

64 It seems that most hunters have a family tradition passed on to them. My father had hunted as a boy and then given it up, supposedly because he felt bad about not being able to retrieve a deer he'd hit. (Family lore is unreliable).

I tried to teach myself hunting in my 30s. I had some fair success murdering waterfowl from a kayak. I managed two grouse from hundreds of hours tramping through the woods. And as for deer hunting, well I have carried a rifle in the woods during deer season.

It seems like a different culture from fishing culture. Fishing you can usually find someone to hook up with and explore and share things. It's hard to find a true fishing partner, but it can be done. I have one. But the process is sort of open.

You don't just get invited to someone's deer camp. Someone's deer camp is their sacred thing. It's mostly, as far as I can tell, not about deer. But it's also about deer and I haven't found people to share that with the way I have with fishing people.

I got myself into hunting, having grown up in a VERY non-hunting family in Southern CA.

Depending on what state you're in, you should be able to hunt on State Lands, which here in Texas, is done by winning a "drawing" for the permit and dates.

Otherwise? Get to know the best Taxidermists in your area. They'll know the best guides and other Hunting Professionals, and can help make the connections for you.

Be sure to book a Guide as a Hunting TEACHER, and not just a professional provider at getting you that one "clear shot" opportunity which is what the average client seeks.

One or two seasons with a Guide, and you'll be good to go.

But do take note of my suggestion to hang out at a good Taxidermist, if they'll let you.

You'll see a lot, learn a lot, and meet a lot of hunters and outdoorsmen, there.

Additionally, you could offer to help for cheap, at a local game-processing facility. You'll learn how to properly treat game, you'll see field dressing done right, and customers bringing in spoiled game where it was done wrong.

And of course, you'll also make scads of contacts with hunters, landowners, guides, etc.

You just have to get out there and amongst 'em. Believe me, the invitations WILL happen.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 29, 2018 08:05 PM (QzJWU)

65 Here's something I would like you guys to watch. It's not gun related, but it actually is. It's a guy arguing against a DRM system for video games called Denuvo. When it came out originally it worked pretty well at preventing pirating of games for well over a month. But now it's a joke and they are cracking it basically the day or two after a game releases, And its been shown to hinder the performance of some games that people have legally purchased, so you're punishing the people not breaking the law.

So anyways, he's arguing to just stop with the DRM that doesn't work, but he tries to argue that its different than his view on how there needs to be stricter gun control laws.

So basically he's too stupid to realize his advocacy to remove DRM because its only hurting those that legally buy the game is the exact same as gun control. It's only going to punish the people that legally buy guns.

https://youtu.be/dmRJ89UiycM

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2018 08:05 PM (lKs2v)

66 Palmetto has .22 complete uppers in stock for the AR-15 platform. I'm told they sell out pretty quick when they have them.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 29, 2018 08:06 PM (rnXGe)

67 454 Casull, for the man who hates his hands! But anything less will just piss the grizzly off, so you do what you have to do. And it's a beautiful revolver.

Posted by: joncelli of the Tribe of the Drunken Moose at July 29, 2018 08:07 PM (1FhAQ)

68 14 Hey everybody. I finally have a legit gun thread question.

I've seen pics of 3D-printed guns. They almost always look like they're made out of some type of thick plastic.

My question is: sure it's great that 3D printing will enable people to make their own weapons, but how durable have these weapons turned out to be so far? I would bet many 3D-printed guns can't be fired too many times, before they would explode apart.

Or do you just get around the 'durability' issue by making a ton of them and use them one after the other?
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2018 07:40 PM (km8m2)

The tech is young yet. Though there are metal 3D printers, they're pricey. For the polymer, you can probably use polymer for everything but the barrel right now in the really real world. At the moment, polymer barrels are only good for a few shots, though in SHTF scenarios, it could be used to 'obtain' better guns, like the old Liberty Pistols of WW2.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:07 PM (xJa6I)

69 I don't hunt much anymore. When I was young, I'd go out with my older cousin sometimes. My parents were terrified of guns, so never got the real family connection.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 07:59 PM (xJa6I)

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I used to tag along on Fox hunts a friend of mine's Dad would go out on. Never hunted directly myself. This was in Suburban Chicago in the late 60s. The Dad had a nice collection of shotguns/rifles in a display case for all to see. Amazing how much things have changed there since that time.

My Mom and Dad both grew up in the city, my Dad in an apartment. They were not anti gun, we just did not have any. I moved to GA at 24, and bought my first gun at 25. It felt like I was doing something illegal.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 29, 2018 08:07 PM (I16G8)

70 Bought a few raffle tickets and it says the drawing was July 4th. Did I miss something?

Posted by: t-dubya-d at July 29, 2018 08:08 PM (RZWC0)

71 And of course, you'll also make scads of contacts with hunters, landowners, guides, etc.

You just have to get out there and amongst 'em. Believe me, the invitations WILL happen.

Thanks. Good to know.

Here in CT there's shotgun hunting on some state lands and rifle hunting only on private property with explicit permission, and I'm not really situated to meet the people with that property.

MA was similar, NH was pretty easy, so I did my deer "hunting" there.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2018 08:09 PM (fuK7c)

72 Selleck has donated some of his movie firearms to the NRA museum.

http://www.womenhunters.com/press-release-nra-selleck.html

and the link to the online gallery of these guns. Click on the movie title gun and an enlarged photo will show and then a photo still from the movie.

http://www.nramuseum.org/guns/the-galleries/hollywood-guns/westerns.aspx

Posted by: Jen the original at July 29, 2018 08:09 PM (79CWt)

73 Hi Tobacco Road. Long Time No See.

Glad to hear from you!

Posted by: ALH at July 29, 2018 08:10 PM (8kkL4)

74
This may very well be the last pistol for a good long time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:03 PM (xJa6I

Boy, that tune changed quickly

Glad you found something you like very much
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 29, 2018 08:04 PM (3Pma+)

Well you know, it's hard for an addict to stop. But I think this is 'enough'. I already struggle to rotate guns through the range and still put a few boxes through my carry piece.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:10 PM (xJa6I)

75 http://www.womenhunters.com

The Paolo is, of course, a founding member.

Posted by: Paolo at July 29, 2018 08:10 PM (NWiLs)

76 75
http://www.womenhunters.com

The Paolo is, of course, a founding member.

Posted by: Paolo at July 29, 2018 08:10 PM (NWiLs)

What caliber do you recommend?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 29, 2018 08:12 PM (rnXGe)

77 My question is: sure it's great that 3D printing
will enable people to make their own weapons, but how durable have these
weapons turned out to be so far? I would bet many 3D-printed guns can't
be fired too many times, before they would explode apart.

Or do you just get around the 'durability' issue by making a ton of them and use them one after the other?

Posted by: qdpsteve
...............From what I've read, 3D printing is just a passing fad.
The real technology breakthrough is CNC milling of lower receivers. (And probably any other part you choose.
There was a court case a few weeks ago won by one of the proponents of sharing the CNC instructions. The government was trying to say trading CNC instructions is like trading/distributing real weapons, and argued that was banned.. judge through that out.
So, now, you can make your own out of high quality metals.. you just need a couple thousand dollar machine to do it.. but the price of those is coming down.. and a club, say a gun club for instance, could purchase and share such a machine.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 29, 2018 08:12 PM (5tSKk)

78 75 http://www.womenhunters.com

The Paolo is, of course, a founding member.
Posted by: Paolo at July 29, 2018 08:10 PM (NWiLs)

I checked the link.

It is NOT Milfhunter.com, just in case you were curious.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:12 PM (xJa6I)

79 My question is: sure it's great that 3D printing will enable people to make their own weapons, but how durable have these weapons turned out to be so far?

The only practical fully non-metal printed guns I've seen have one-use barrels. As in, after every shot you unscrew the barrel and replace it.

As I noted earlier, most of the other ones are really just end-runs around the fact the government considers the lower receiver to be the gun, so if you print the lower receiver and buy all the other parts it counts as a self manufacture and doesn't require a serial number.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 08:13 PM (h2Bdk)

80 Oh my gosh, they don't have hunter orange.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 29, 2018 08:13 PM (n5CNg)

81 And that man down and they're so busy shooting little birds they don't realize they've shot one of their own. Heavens to Betsy.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 29, 2018 08:14 PM (n5CNg)

82 So, now, you can make your own out of high quality metals.. you just need a couple thousand dollar machine to do it.. but the price of those is coming down.. and a club, say a gun club for instance, could purchase and share such a machine.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 29, 2018 08:12 PM (5tSKk)

The same company that made a big splash with the first 3D printed gun is now selling a sub-$1000 machine you can use to make lowers. It's not a general purpose CNC machine, so they were able to keep costs down.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 08:14 PM (h2Bdk)

83 >If you have a couple hundred grand you can 3d print metal guns.<
Kinda what I thought. It's not for the Average Joe Reloader. But not to worry!! NPR already ran an interview with some dude who's convinced that the recent court victory over print-code downloads is the prelude to Armageddon, which should occur almost any day now with ALL THOSE GUNS BEING PRINTED!!!!

Posted by: dad29 at July 29, 2018 08:14 PM (7Kti7)

84 Thanks, everyone.

So the answer is, these plastic 3D guns are NOT durable, they're more or less just what could be called 'experimentals' and new/better tech is on the way. Makes sense..

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2018 08:15 PM (km8m2)

85 If you're going to spend that kind of money why not buy a 3 axis CNC mill and make it that way?
Posted by: Ace's liver

One of the free 3D files for plastic guns is named the liberator. GM made liberator pistols to drop for the French resistance in WWII. So the full plastic ones are only good for a couple shots. Similar to the WWII Liberators.

The 3D metal printed 1911 was just proof of concept which the say at the beginning of the video.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9xzugll

Posted by: X-ray at July 29, 2018 08:15 PM (QQ7V7)

86 I just looked at the raffle. They're already at $5,300 now with 6 days remaining.
The scope included in the package has an MSRP of $3,200. For a scope.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 29, 2018 08:15 PM (rnXGe)

87
remember the gun JOHN MALKOVICH made from WOOD in that MOVIE?

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 29, 2018 08:17 PM (C23g2)

88 bluebell's nice comment made me think. To give you an idea of how competitive shooting and scores have advanced, I once shot a clean 200-13x match in Phoenix at 800 yards. That's all 20 rounds in a 10 inch circle with 13 of those in the 5 inch X ring.

7th place.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:17 PM (jXBkn)

89 Comrade at July 29, 2018 07:30 PM (i0g22)

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MisHum, if you are still here....this guy:

Comrade at July 29, 2018 07:30 PM (i0g22)

Is busy polluting the bottom of the Garbage on the Beach thread from 2:00 today.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 29, 2018 08:18 PM (I16G8)

90 I'm finding trapping more fun than hunting this year. Settling scores w varmints is satisfying way down inside.

Posted by: dr kill at July 29, 2018 08:19 PM (Jj+59)

91 Hi Tobacco Road. Long Time No See.

Glad to hear from you!
Posted by: ALH at July 29, 2018
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Thanks ALH. Hope you are well. I still read JJ's morning report every weekday morning. Even have my wife addicted to it.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 29, 2018 08:19 PM (TxgK1)

92 At the moment, polymer barrels are only good for a few shots, though in SHTF scenarios, it could be used to 'obtain' better guns, like the old Liberty Pistols of WW2.

In fact, Defense Distributed's all-plastic pistol design is called the "Liberator." And not coincidentally.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at July 29, 2018 08:19 PM (4jqDR)

93 Mark: I took that class. For a newbie like me, it was pretty rigorous!

Posted by: Chris at July 29, 2018 08:19 PM (hoDGx)

94 That Dority? dude who confronted the older lady shoulda met some real ammunition blasters...5 shots x 22's and he's still breathing....... was the lady near sighted!!! or just trying to wing him and have her way with him? Hmmmm?

Posted by: saf at July 29, 2018 08:21 PM (5IHGB)

95 Friend of mine did a lot of bow hunting -- he and his brother practiced with prairie dogs in ND. Seemed great to me, but I don't hunt or shoot. Dad liked fishing (mom hated it) and liked going on the regular deer or elk hunting trips. His contribution was recipes for the game meat and catering potato salads (or whatever was in excess in the garden). He was invited on a lot of big trips because he was an excellent cook.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 29, 2018 08:21 PM (MIKMs)

96 87
remember the gun JOHN MALKOVICH made from WOOD in that MOVIE?
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 29, 2018 08:17 PM (C23g2)

Heh. I can't drive in a nail without splitting the wood. But a wooden barrel? What could go wrong?

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 08:22 PM (h2Bdk)

97 I think you guys are pulling my leg that a dozen guys are blazing away at birds, my guess is they are returning fire on a Focke Wulf 190.

Posted by: Skip at July 29, 2018 08:22 PM (pHfeF)

98 MisHum, Mrs. E and I both hunt, and have done so since age 12 or so. She started in Colorado and I started in S.C. And of course you know how it is with gun accumulation. It's like popcorn, eh? I don't know anybody eats one kernel of popcorn and says 'Well, that's enough. I won't ever need any more of those.'.

Posted by: Eromero at July 29, 2018 08:22 PM (zLDYs)

99 I'm pretty sure the John Malkovich gun was plastic or epoxy or somesuch.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2018 08:22 PM (fuK7c)

100 That Comrade dude is a real asshole.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 29, 2018 08:23 PM (5tSKk)

101 Raccoons were raising hell on my property lately and I guess it's not hunting but a light and green dot scope on my pellet rifle have been giving it back to them when I get up to use the men's at 2 or 3am.

Posted by: dartist at July 29, 2018 08:23 PM (K22Va)

102
remember the gun JOHN MALKOVICH made from WOOD in that MOVIE?
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 29, 2018 08:17 PM (C23g2)
------
Captain Kirk made a bazooka from bamboo and string!

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:24 PM (MVjcR)

103 Palmetto has .22 complete uppers in stock for the AR-15 platform. I'm told they sell out pretty quick when they have them.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 29, 2018 08:06 PM (rnXGe)

They are just about giving away Federal .223 Remington 55grain FMJ: $5.99 a box/10 boxes = free shipping. That's a great deal!

Their regular shipping costs on ammo are rather steep and rapidly escalate; I bought 500 rounds of 9mm FMJ and the shipping was $19.00! The overall price still was decent but I don't think I will ever buy anything from them again that does not include free shipping.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 29, 2018 08:24 PM (5Yee7)

104 93 Mark: I took that class. For a newbie like me, it was pretty rigorous!
Posted by: Chris at July 29, 2018 08:19 PM (hoDGx)

Insights puts on good classes. It's been about 10 years since I first took it, or maybe longer. So I won't be as frisky but it should still be doable.

Water and Ibuprofen ought to pull me through.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:26 PM (xJa6I)

105 The reboot of Magnum PI will probably be woke and full of social justice bs. I'll pass. Glad I got the original ones on DVD.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2018 08:27 PM (QKBK3)

106 99 I'm pretty sure the John Malkovich gun was plastic or epoxy or somesuch.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2018 08:22 PM (fuK7c)

They said 'composite' in the movie. Which could mean a lot of stuff. Wood pulp may have been part of it. I've heard of weirder things, like ceramic guns.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:27 PM (xJa6I)

107 OT - A Hordesource request: The other day I was browsing around wikipedia, and stumbled across an article about an incident in which a pirate ship was intercepted by a submarine, pretty sure it was pre- WWII. I accidentally cleared my cache, and now can't find that article anywhere. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Posted by: josephistan at July 29, 2018 08:27 PM (Izzlo)

108 Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:17 PM

Seriously. The scores I see the kids shooting these days...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 29, 2018 08:28 PM (Q+wbH)

109 So this dumb ass city I live in hired itself an "Equity Officer" whom they pay over $100,000 a year. This guy just put out a report basically saying that Austin should rename itself because Stephen F. Austin said freed slaves would become vagabonds, nuisances, and a menace if freed. He had several other equally dumb ass suggestions. It's like the cultural revolution all over again...just not in China this time.

Posted by: lin-duh at July 29, 2018 08:28 PM (kufk0)

110 Thanks for the gub thread, MisHum! Very meaty one, so to speak.

Not a hunter. Glad there are many who are, in part because it seems hunters/outdoorsmen are about the only "normies" who are aware of/get involved in outdoor issues - so the field is not left entirely to the extremely unreliable-to-outright-pernicious enviro cultists, et al.

I certainly understand the appeal, for all sorts of hunting, just don't have an interest myself. Though most of it does appeal to me - the hiking, camping in remote spots, etc.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 08:28 PM (QDnY+)

111 Sure, MisHum, bluebell chides for an instructional photo on proper and correct cleaning and lubrications, and then a photo with no redeeming instruction or reference value?

(p.s., bluebell also appreciates Paul Newman.)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 29, 2018 08:29 PM (DMUuz)

112 107
OT - A Hordesource request: The other day I was browsing around
wikipedia, and stumbled across an article about an incident in which a
pirate ship was intercepted by a submarine, pretty sure it was pre-
WWII. I accidentally cleared my cache, and now can't find that article
anywhere. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Posted by: josephistan at July 29, 2018 08:27 PM (Izzlo)

The Irene Incident?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irene_incident

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 29, 2018 08:29 PM (rnXGe)

113 Been waiting all week to talk about this.

Took my granddaughter to the range. Only her second time shooting.
She wanted to try my 308.
So she did. I was stunned. At 100 Meyers you could cover her shot group with a quarter.
The range master was an old shooter from viet Nam.
He watched. Invited her to shoot his match rifle.
4 for 4 in the black at 250 meters.
And she just turned 15.
Grandpa is so proud!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 08:29 PM (0tfLf)

114 The reboot of Magnum PI will probably be woke and full of social justice bs. -----

Magnum PI with a Soyboy actor driving a Prius and no beach bikini scenes. Would not compete with the original.

Posted by: X-ray at July 29, 2018 08:30 PM (QQ7V7)

115 The new Magnum PI is asian, and Higgins is a chick.

Posted by: squeakywheel at July 29, 2018 08:31 PM (45Ydj)

116 113 Been waiting all week to talk about this.

Took my granddaughter to the range. Only her second time shooting.
She wanted to try my 308.
So she did. I was stunned. At 100 Meyers you could cover her shot group with a quarter.
The range master was an old shooter from viet Nam.
He watched. Invited her to shoot his match rifle.
4 for 4 in the black at 250 meters.
And she just turned 15.
Grandpa is so proud!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 08:29 PM (0tfLf)
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Very, very cool.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:31 PM (MVjcR)

117 Looked at the historical weapons link. When I had my computer use to play a lot of Russian Front battle game, you got points and had to buy units of infantry, tanks ans SPartillery. Cheap early unit was a PTRD anti tank rifle, not sure I ever knocked out anything with them.

Posted by: Skip at July 29, 2018 08:31 PM (pHfeF)

118 "Grandpa is so proud!
Posted by: Diogenes"

And rightly so !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at July 29, 2018 08:31 PM (yN/cP)

119 @ Diogenes

Mad props to her. And to all young eyes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:32 PM (xJa6I)

120 I'm building an AR-15 pistol, with a folding stabilizing brace and a quick detach barrel. I was in the home stretch yesterday, installing the gas tube when I realized it was too short. So I was faced with either buying a shorter barrel (~$100) or a longer tube (~$15). Plan B it is.

Posted by: Butch at July 29, 2018 08:32 PM (hXu8T)

121 Grandpa is so proud!
Posted by: Diogenes

Rightfully so. Congratulations

Posted by: X-ray at July 29, 2018 08:32 PM (QQ7V7)

122 The new magnum is only 5 feet 9 inches tall.
He is no Tom Selleck.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 08:32 PM (0tfLf)

123 There is no "sport" in shooting animals. Unless absolutely necessary for food. Call of the wild. Otherwise, well....

Especially so-called 'trophy' hunting.

And I own a gun and am totally 2nd A.

Posted by: Bobby Ahr at July 29, 2018 08:32 PM (zmZ2x)

124 113
Grandpa is so proud!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 08:29 PM (0tfLf)

I bet you are. That's awesome.

Stories like that give me hope for the next generation.

Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 08:33 PM (sdi6R)

125 112 107
OT - A Hordesource request: The other day I was browsing around
wikipedia, and stumbled across an article about an incident in which a
pirate ship was intercepted by a submarine, pretty sure it was pre-
WWII. I accidentally cleared my cache, and now can't find that article
anywhere. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Posted by: josephistan at July 29, 2018 08:27 PM (Izzlo)

The Irene Incident?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irene_incident
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 29, 2018 08:29 PM (rnXGe)

Yes! Thank you, Brian!

And that led me to several other articles that I had accidentally cleared before reading. Now I can sleep well tonight.

Posted by: josephistan at July 29, 2018 08:33 PM (Izzlo)

126 Sure, MisHum, bluebell chides for an instructional photo on proper and correct cleaning and lubrications, and then a photo with no redeeming instruction or reference value?

(p.s., bluebell also appreciates Paul Newman.)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 29, 2018 08:29 PM (DMUuz)
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A. I most certainly did not ask for Part I of that sentence, but definitely did for Part II;

B. Yes, yes I do.

Posted by: bluebell at July 29, 2018 08:33 PM (JJZzu)

127 The reboot of Magnum PI will probably be woke and full of social justice bs. I'll pass. Glad I got the original ones on DVD.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2018 08:27 PM (QKBK3)

Would they do that?

Weeks has been cast as Juliet Higgins, "the "majordomo" (i.e., property manager) for the large Hawaiian estate of writer Robin Masters, for whom Magnum ostensibly works security and lives in his guest house. She is commanding, confident, tough, uses sarcasm to deflect emotion and is hard to get to know - but it's worth it in the end."

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 29, 2018 08:33 PM (SiINZ)

128 They said 'composite' in the movie. Which could mean a lot of stuff. Wood pulp may have been part of it. I've heard of weirder things, like ceramic guns.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:27 PM (xJa6I)

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There is not and never has been a functional fully ceramic gun. Composite is most likely polymer, for the frame.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 29, 2018 08:33 PM (I16G8)

129 Reading that Russia milsurp bust story, I think the author probably has it right - these were mostly guns destined to be sold on the collector's market. Though I'm not sure a (live) Panzerfaust counts as purely a "collector's item" (many here would love to have one as that special back-up system, I'm sure).

I have been fascinated by the PTRD (the Soviet anti-tank rifle) since I have seen them in films and documentaries, but haven't looked into them. I assume they quickly became mostly useful against thin-skinned vehicles (maybe to include the Mk I German tanks?). Haven't looked online to see if anyone has test-fired them on UToob.

Have to say that of all the hardware in that bust, two items still easily top the list of the ones I'd grab - the Thompsons, and the M1919. Something about both I love - the M1919 actually seems like it was a tremendously useful and versatile system, easily man-portable, quick to set up, able to deliver impressive amount of fire.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 08:33 PM (QDnY+)

130 123 There is no "sport" in shooting animals. Unless absolutely necessary for food. Call of the wild. Otherwise, well....

Especially so-called 'trophy' hunting.

And I own a gun and am totally 2nd A.
Posted by: Bobby Ahr at July 29, 2018 08:32 PM (zmZ2x)

Opinions vary. So do definitions of sport. I find golf to be far more corrosive to good humor and Christian charity.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:34 PM (xJa6I)

131 Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 08:29 PM (0tfLf)

Future sniper?

Posted by: Infidel at July 29, 2018 08:34 PM (xtW/d)

132 105 The reboot of Magnum PI will probably be woke and full of social justice bs. I'll pass. Glad I got the original ones on DVD.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2018 08:27 PM (QKBK3)

The original got pretty dark in spots. They had one episode where he runs into a Russian agent who killed some of his friends in Viet Nam.

He's got a bead on the guy, who says something like "I know you won't shoot me, because that's the kind of person you are." And the audience is like "Oh yeah, we've seen this 1000x. The gun will shake, he'll screw his face up, and he'll say something like 'That's what makes me better than you' and take him to jail." Just once I'd like to see the protagonist cap that guy.

And Magnum guns him down in cold blood.

It was literally shocking for '80s serial television.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 08:34 PM (h2Bdk)

133 101 You're right its not hunting, its war.

Posted by: Skip at July 29, 2018 08:34 PM (pHfeF)

134 The Range Master told me he could have her ready for her first shooting match by December.
He said talent like hers is rare. Very rare.
Trying now to figure out how to make that work.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 08:34 PM (0tfLf)

135 Earlier today I saw a car with a 'Molon Labe' bumper sticker. I've lived in California for six years now and never saw anything pro-gun (outside of a gun shop) before today.

Posted by: Surfperch at July 29, 2018 08:34 PM (BHRUO)

136 Hunting with my grandpa was a joy, walking the hills after quail or in the duck blind. He gave me his prewar Winchester model 12 and passed away that same night. I go on prairie dog hunts in western Kansas to keep sharp, most of our shots are at 700 yards. I enjoy everything about firearms and still teach remedial firearms instruction for the local police academy. I get the hopeless cadets who've failed the standard course. It takes me on average 30 minutes of individual instruction to get them ready to qualify.
I also had a half ownership in a gunshop for six years. I guess I just love everything about firearms, hunting or not.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at July 29, 2018 08:35 PM (bML9A)

137
Well, Malkovich's gun was only intended to fire once. Or was it a double barrel? But it was a One-Use-Only weapon.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 29, 2018 08:35 PM (C23g2)

138 Wow, Diogenes! That's awesome. Let's call her Weaselette.

Posted by: bluebell at July 29, 2018 08:35 PM (JJZzu)

139 When I was a kid I'd go early with my grandpa or dad and "run" our German short haired pointer in the railroad yards near here to flush and point pheasant. I probably haven't seen a pheasant around here in 30 years.

Posted by: dartist at July 29, 2018 08:35 PM (K22Va)

140 I'm building an AR-15 pistol, with a folding stabilizing brace and a quick detach barrel. I was in the home stretch yesterday, installing the gas tube when I realized it was too short. So I was faced with either buying a shorter barrel (~$100) or a longer tube (~$15). Plan B it is.
Posted by: Butch at July 29, 2018 08:32 PM (hXu8T)

Sounds like you have an excuse to buy both. Get the longer tube now and the too-short tube just naturally needs to be put on that appropriate barrel. It would be inefficient to let that short gas tube just gather dust!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 29, 2018 08:36 PM (5Yee7)

141 Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 08:29 PM (0tfLf)

Future sniper?
Posted by: Infidel at July 29

xxxxxx

Future Olympian I am thinking.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 08:36 PM (0tfLf)

142 102
remember the gun JOHN MALKOVICH made from WOOD in that MOVIE?
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 29, 2018 08:17 PM (C23g2)
------
Captain Kirk made a bazooka from bamboo and string!
Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:24 PM (MVjcR)

Capt. Kirk, Spock and Abe Lincoln (yes, that Abe) fight against Genghis Khan and some other folk on tonight's Star trek. This has been a PSA.

Posted by: playtpus, gg channel at July 29, 2018 08:36 PM (hCbo0)

143 138 Wow, Diogenes! That's awesome. Let's call her Weaselette.

Posted by: bluebell at July 29, 2018 08:35 PM (JJZzu)
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Yeah!

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:36 PM (MVjcR)

144 There is no "sport" in shooting animals. Unless absolutely necessary for food. Call of the wild. Otherwise, well....

Yes Deer starving from over population in an area and getting whacked by cars is a much better option.

Posted by: X-ray at July 29, 2018 08:36 PM (QQ7V7)

145 (p.s., bluebell also appreciates Paul Newman.)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 29, 2018 08:29 PM

Asking for a spork shiv, there, eh?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 29, 2018 08:37 PM (Q+wbH)

146 123
There is no "sport" in shooting animals. Unless absolutely necessary for food. Call of the wild. Otherwise, well....

Especially so-called 'trophy' hunting.

And I own a gun and am totally 2nd A.

Posted by: Bobby Ahr at July 29, 2018 08:32 PM (zmZ2x)

I'm not a fan of the pay-for-trophy hunting either (mainly the showing off part) but it does fund most of the wildlfie conservation efforts in Africa and is pretty well controlled..
Varmint control and regular hunting for game you won't necessarily eat is necessary on rural land. Over-population brings bad things.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 29, 2018 08:37 PM (rnXGe)

147 The NRA Museum looks very cool. And just the right distance for a day trip.

Posted by: josephistan at July 29, 2018 08:37 PM (Izzlo)

148 Quail is a crazy tasty bird to eat. Yummy!

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 29, 2018 08:37 PM (t82DG)

149 Future Olympian I am thinking.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 08:36 PM (0tfLf)
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I was thinking the very same thing.

Posted by: bluebell at July 29, 2018 08:38 PM (JJZzu)

150 https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/07/25/thomas-the-smg/

Posted by: Skip at July 29, 2018 08:38 PM (pHfeF)

151 132 105 The reboot of Magnum PI will probably be woke and full of social justice bs. I'll pass. Glad I got the original ones on DVD.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2018 08:27 PM (QKBK3)

The original got pretty dark in spots. They had one episode where he runs into a Russian agent who killed some of his friends in Viet Nam.

He's got a bead on the guy, who says something like "I know you won't shoot me, because that's the kind of person you are." And the audience is like "Oh yeah, we've seen this 1000x. The gun will shake, he'll screw his face up, and he'll say something like 'That's what makes me better than you' and take him to jail." Just once I'd like to see the protagonist cap that guy.

And Magnum guns him down in cold blood.

It was literally shocking for '80s serial television.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 08:34 PM (h2Bdk)

Tom Selleck is the man. He had a hand in a number of episodes of Magnum PI. Wouldn't surprise me if he'd suggested that take.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:38 PM (xJa6I)

152 On ammo, shipping costs, etc. - ammoseek.com. You can do dummy orders to check out what total costs/incl. shipping are, but their basic matrix has a column that rates shipping expense for each vendor with a relative scale.

Not really buying ammo for some time, I still use ammoseek to get prices on reloading components for judging local private sale prices. Always keep an eye out for the guy "getting our reloading" or moving. In the past have scored stupendous deals on primers, etc.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 08:38 PM (QDnY+)

153 I've never hunted, but I keep a flyswatter in every room for the occasional centipede. Gotta get them on the first try, or else they're gone.

Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 08:39 PM (sdi6R)

154 Retired Buckeye Cop - Yup. I have two more sets of upper and lower receivers and various parts from my two previous builds.

Posted by: Butch at July 29, 2018 08:39 PM (hXu8T)

155
My freezer's drain hole must be clogged -- solid ice is building up quickly. I want to shoot my refrigerator.

One problem after another...

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 29, 2018 08:40 PM (C23g2)

156 (134) Girls do like to beat the boys, it gets the boy's attention. It's healthy.

Posted by: Burger Chef at July 29, 2018 08:40 PM (RuIsu)

157 Most of the 'ettes appreciation Paul Newman, not just bluebell. Clint Eastwood I'd also greatly appreciated and you can find lots of pictures of him with a gun to keep it relevant. Just saying...

Posted by: lin-duh at July 29, 2018 08:40 PM (kufk0)

158 Investigating Detective: Grannie, why did you shoot him 5 times.

Grannie: My weapon jammed.

I don't hunt anymore but that is how I got into firearms - mostly pheasant and rabbits. I don't live where hunting is easily doable but, even if it was, I don't think I would enjoy it anymore.

I have range time coming up this week - a woman at work says she wants to hold my gun and learn to use it. I'm pretty sure she doesn't really want that

, I'll show her the basics of using an AR platform instead.

Applied Talon grips to my S/W Shield the other day. I like the new feel alot. I actually dropped it the week before. I was in a hurry and hands were sweaty. Very embarrassing and horribly dangerous. Ugh.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 29, 2018 08:41 PM (6WCwE)

159 Watched the 1980s movie "The Shooting Party" this weekend. Another of those "things are deteriorating to WWI" movies. But one scene stood out...near the end, where two of the upper crust males were keeping score on game they had shot. One man was so into the "at any cost" mentality that he shot when he shouldn't, injuring (and killing) a beater. James Mason, in one of his last roles, makes the most cutting comment a man could here at that time: "You didn't shoot like a gentleman." Any guy with a gun instinctively knows what he means. And hopes to never hear that about himself.

Posted by: dginnorcal@yahoo.com at July 29, 2018 08:41 PM (iAl7a)

160
Remember the episode of Magnum when he was stranded in the middle of the ocean after his kayak or whatever got flipped?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 29, 2018 08:41 PM (C23g2)

161 Grouse hunting sharpens the reflexes. Fast birds.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 29, 2018 08:41 PM (89T5c)

162 156 (134) Girls do like to beat the boys, it gets the boy's attention. It's healthy.
Posted by: Burger Chef at July 29, 2018 08:40 PM (RuIsu)
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I've had the good fortune to coach many of the top long range shooters in the country. Hands down, I'd rather coach women than men.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:42 PM (MVjcR)

163 I've never hunted, but I keep a flyswatter in every room for the occasional centipede. Gotta get them on the first try, or else they're gone.
Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 08:39 PM (sdi6R)

Get one of those sticky rollers people use to get the lint off their clothes. You will get them on the 1st try, everytime...it has revolutionized my ability to kill things on the first whack.

Posted by: playtpus, gg channel at July 29, 2018 08:42 PM (hCbo0)

164 Most of the 'ettes appreciation Paul Newman, not just bluebell. Clint Eastwood I'd also greatly appreciated and you can find lots of pictures of him with a gun to keep it relevant. Just saying...
Posted by: lin-duh at July 29, 2018 08:40 PM (kufk0)
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Perhaps we should make MisHum a helpful list.

Posted by: bluebell at July 29, 2018 08:42 PM (JJZzu)

165 have been fascinated by the PTRD (the Soviet anti-tank rifle) since I have seen them in films and documentaries, but haven't looked into them. I assume they quickly became mostly useful against thin-skinned vehicles (maybe to include the Mk I German tanks?). Haven't looked online to see if anyone has test-fired them on UToob.

Ian at Forgotten Weapons did a few videos on the Soviet Anti-Tank rifles (both types) and shot a few rounds with them. I think one was a bolt type and the other a semi-auto?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrfKGpvbEQXcbe68dzXgJuA

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 29, 2018 08:42 PM (EoRCO)

166
And the other episode when Magnum is delirious in the woods and stumbles upon a wrecked Japanese plane?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 29, 2018 08:42 PM (C23g2)

167 You can ban hunting and it doesn't make it to SCOTUS, at least not as a 2nd Amendment case. The problem in states like Illinois where I live is that they put in place carve outs in gun control to keep the hunters feeling safe, or the national match Garand shooters, current and retired cops, and in some cases veterans.

IMO the carve outs have to be scrapped. I don't hunt but I support hunters. When you take away my semi automatic rifles, limit magazine size and do other extreme crap like you have in 4 deep blue commie states then I move to the closest part of America I can find and you won't have me around to support you when they go for CA style hunting restrictions.

Posted by: Keith at July 29, 2018 08:43 PM (USf3s)

168 166
And the other episode when Magnum is delirious in the woods and stumbles upon a wrecked Japanese plane?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 29, 2018 08:42 PM (C23g2)

I thought that was Gilligan's Island?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:43 PM (xJa6I)

169 Tom Selleck sporting a legit porn stache.

Posted by: kallisto at July 29, 2018 08:44 PM (jtqoO)

170 I've never hunted, but I keep a flyswatter in every room for the occasional centipede. Gotta get them on the first try, or else they're gone.
Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 08:39 PM (sdi6R)

You may want to consider concealed carrying a flyswatter.

Posted by: Surfperch at July 29, 2018 08:44 PM (BHRUO)

171 A 1942 US Army field ration

https://youtu.be/3ZtaBrQ-3EA

Hershey was instructed to not make the bar too tasty. "Slightly better than a boiled potato".

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 29, 2018 08:44 PM (rnAwa)

172 I'm flying to MN next weekend and taking a 1911 along in my checked bags. Wish me luck, hopefully I've done my research correctly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:44 PM (xJa6I)

173 Bought a few raffle tickets and it says the drawing was July 4th. Did I miss something?
Posted by: t-dubya-d at July 29, 2018 08:08 PM
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If you scroll around a bit, you'll see that the raffle date has been moved to Aug. 5. (Guess because they hadn't sold many tix.)

Posted by: IrishEi at July 29, 2018 08:45 PM (Ri0Ku)

174 My freezer's drain hole must be clogged -- solid ice is building up quickly. I want to shoot my refrigerator.

One problem after another...
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 29, 2018 08:40 PM (C23g2)

Sorry, I already did a song about Bubba shooting a jukebox. "Soothsayer Shot the Refrigerator" just doesn't sound like a hit.

Posted by: Mark Chestnut/i] at July 29, 2018 08:45 PM (5Yee7)

175 Bobby Ahr, glad to hear you support the 2A*. Not a hunter either, but .... freedom. And Brian in NOLA makes excellent points about how hunting (incl. of trophy game) is and can be part of effective game management, conservation, and funding same.

* I find statements like "I support the First Amendment" to be somewhat bizarre. Logically you either support the constitution as currently is, or favor amending it - no other options.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 08:45 PM (QDnY+)

176
Yeah, that was Gilligan's Island, too.

Ginger sexed Higgins in that episode, and Phil Silvers.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 29, 2018 08:45 PM (C23g2)

177 132 105 The reboot of Magnum PI will probably be woke and full of social justice bs. I'll pass. Glad I got the original ones on DVD.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2018 08:27 PM (QKBK3)

The original got pretty dark in spots. They had one episode where he runs into a Russian agent who killed some of his friends in Viet Nam.

He's got a bead on the guy, who says something like "I know you won't shoot me, because that's the kind of person you are." And the audience is like "Oh yeah, we've seen this 1000x. The gun will shake, he'll screw his face up, and he'll say something like 'That's what makes me better than you' and take him to jail." Just once I'd like to see the protagonist cap that guy.

And Magnum guns him down in cold blood.

It was literally shocking for '80s serial television.
Posted by: Ace's liver

Heh! That was an excellent episode. Magnum asks if he saw the sunrise, Ivan says yes, Magnum then just shoots him.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2018 08:45 PM (QKBK3)

178 164 Most of the 'ettes appreciation Paul Newman, not just bluebell. Clint Eastwood I'd also greatly appreciated and you can find lots of pictures of him with a gun to keep it relevant. Just saying...
Posted by: lin-duh at July 29, 2018 08:40 PM (kufk0)
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Perhaps we should make MisHum a helpful list.
Posted by: bluebell at July 29, 2018 08:42 PM (JJZzu)

Scott Eastwood also makes the list. Damn, that guy is yummy.

Posted by: playtpus, gg channel at July 29, 2018 08:45 PM (hCbo0)

179 Hands down, I'd rather coach women than men.
Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:42 PM

Yep. The girls listen and don't assume their gender endows them with an inate knowledge of shooting.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 29, 2018 08:46 PM (Q+wbH)

180 169 Tom Selleck sporting a legit porn stache.
Posted by: kallisto at July 29, 2018 08:44 PM (jtqoO)

Tom Selleck, John Bolton & Mike Schmidt were the only guys who could pull off a mustache without looking like an out of work porn actor

Posted by: josephistan at July 29, 2018 08:46 PM (Izzlo)

181 He's got a bead on the guy, who says something like "I know you won't shoot me, because that's the kind of person you are." And the audience is like "Oh yeah, we've seen this 1000x. The gun will shake, he'll screw his face up, and he'll say something like 'That's what makes me better than you' and take him to jail." Just once I'd like to see the protagonist cap that guy.

And Magnum guns him down in cold blood.

It was literally shocking for '80s serial television.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 08:34 PM (h2Bdk)

Delaney. Did you watch Regis this morning?

Posted by: Archer at July 29, 2018 08:47 PM (NWiLs)

182 176
Yeah, that was Gilligan's Island, too.

Ginger sexed Higgins in that episode, and Phil Silvers.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 29, 2018 08:45 PM (C23g2)

Brian Dennehy was staggeringly good as the plane.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:47 PM (xJa6I)

183 163
Get one of those sticky rollers people use to get the lint off their clothes. You will get them on the 1st try, everytime...it has revolutionized my ability to kill things on the first whack.
Posted by: playtpus, gg channel at July 29, 2018 08:42 PM (hCbo0)

Wow, that's an excellent idea. But do I have to buy a new roller after each one?

Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 08:47 PM (sdi6R)

184 179 Hands down, I'd rather coach women than men.
Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:42 PM

Yep. The girls listen and don't assume their gender endows them with an inate knowledge of shooting.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 29, 2018 08:46 PM (Q+wbH)
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Yep. Exactly!

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:47 PM (MVjcR)

185 I finally saw a civilian open carrying here In Austinistan yesterday at the 5.11 store opening. Half of the first responders in the area were there. Safe place to be yesterday.

Posted by: lin-duh at July 29, 2018 08:47 PM (kufk0)

186 Ha ha Archer has never listened to the angels of his better nature. That was never a question.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 29, 2018 08:48 PM (rnAwa)

187 Hands down, I'd rather coach women than men.
Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:42 PM

Yep. The girls listen and don't assume their gender endows them with an inate knowledge of shooting.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 29, 2018 08:46 PM (Q+wbH)

Just had that same conversation with some of the young engineers I work with.

Posted by: Mark Chestnut/i] at July 29, 2018 08:49 PM (5Yee7)

188 We're scheduling a family "gun together" in October.

The girls bring the grub and they'll gab, and some will shoot, while the guys graze on the fixin's while shootin'.

I married well.

Two of my wife's nephews have given me a "thumbs up" on the Lee Enfield purchase.

Can't wait to bring the Enfield to the family gun together and put it through its paces.

Stay shooting, my friends.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 29, 2018 08:49 PM (WEBkv)

189 Well, Scott does look exactly like his dad in his heydays....

Posted by: lin-duh at July 29, 2018 08:49 PM (kufk0)

190 @187, off stinky sock

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at July 29, 2018 08:50 PM (5Yee7)

191 I actually dropped it the week before. I was in a hurry and hands were sweaty. Very embarrassing and horribly dangerous. Ugh.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 29, 2018 08:41 PM (6WCwE)

Damn.....now you have to give us 50 push ups.

Hit it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 29, 2018 08:50 PM (EoRCO)

192 I own firearms principally for hunting. Two week trip this fall with the pointers.

Posted by: clutch at July 29, 2018 08:50 PM (kiSdp)

193 Keith @167 with a great point. Not a hunter, but support the freedom that allows it. But the strategic dicing/slicing of the gun-owning population (thru carve-outs that "protect" certain hobbies) is pernicious. Of course since the 2A is simply disregarded or its plain language and meaning ignored, it's Alice in Wonderland from the get-go.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 08:50 PM (QDnY+)

194 Another dark episode was Magnum falling for a beautiful client whose twin sister is trying to kill her. Turns out beautiful client is schizophrenic and winds up killing herself in front of Magnum. The beautiful schizophrenic was the young, smoking hot, Sharon Stone. She was a beauty then.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2018 08:50 PM (QKBK3)

195

GORN SEASON!

Posted by: James T. Kirk at July 29, 2018 08:51 PM (IqV8l)

196 Yeah, that was Gilligan's Island, too.

Ginger sexed Higgins in that episode, and Phil Silvers.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 29, 2018 08:45 PM (C23g2)

Brian Dennehy was staggeringly good as the plane.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2018 08:47 PM (xJa6I)

And the lagoon. Another one of his duel role masterpieces.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 29, 2018 08:51 PM (SiINZ)

197 Future Olympian I am thinking.

Unfortunately there are no high power events in the Olympics. I think even smallbore has been phased out in favor of airfuns except for biathlon.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at July 29, 2018 08:51 PM (4jqDR)

198 I respectfully disagree. The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting. The 2nd amendment prevents the power of the central government to infringe on our natural right to keep and bear arms. The whole purpose of the 2nd amendment is to allow an free citizenry to protect their freedoms from a tyrannical central government.

This has nothing to do with hunting deer, rabbits or anything else. It has to do with preserving our freedom from an over-reaching central government.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at July 29, 2018 08:51 PM (xUc0d)

199 OT
The power went out for a couple of hours. KTY enticed KTE to play cards on the floor, then hubby decided to teach them poker. Soon Mr Doggy was sitting there too, drooling on te deck and looking like he was waiting for his turn.

Our very own Dog Playing Poker.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 29, 2018 08:51 PM (CE6iV)

200 @173. Thanks. Saw that, the confirmation e-mail I got said the drawing was on the 4th and thanks for the donation. Threw me off a little!

Posted by: t-dubya-d at July 29, 2018 08:51 PM (RZWC0)

201 Hands down, I'd rather coach women than men.
Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:42 PM

Yep. The girls listen and don't assume their gender endows them with an inate knowledge of shooting.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 29, 2018 08:46 PM (Q+wbH)
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Yep. Exactly!
Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:47 PM (MVjcR)
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When I was pregnant with my first baby, my doctor was talking about why he chose to be an ob/gyn. I suggested it was because he liked delivering babies, but he said nope. It was because women were much better patients than men, because they listened and did what their doctors told them to, and men don't.

Posted by: bluebell at July 29, 2018 08:51 PM (JJZzu)

202 Can't wait to bring the Enfield to the family gun together and put it through its paces.

Stay shooting, my friends.
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 29, 2018 08:49 PM (WEBkv)

Bought one of those myself a few years back.

Didn't realize .303 was $1.50/round. Jeez.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 08:52 PM (h2Bdk)

203 183 163
Get one of those sticky rollers people use to get the lint off their clothes. You will get them on the 1st try, everytime...it has revolutionized my ability to kill things on the first whack.
Posted by: playtpus, gg channel at July 29, 2018 08:42 PM (hCbo0)

Wow, that's an excellent idea. But do I have to buy a new roller after each one?
Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 08:47 PM (sdi6R)

I'm pretty sure you can buy refills...unless things have changed in the last few years. I've been fortunate I only need them in the summer, so don't think I've gone through a whole roll. One bug per sheet...and so if you have 100 sheets on a roll...that's a lot of bugs. Though a centipede may take more than one sheet.

Posted by: playtpus, gg channel at July 29, 2018 08:52 PM (hCbo0)

204 Sorry, I already did a song about Bubba shooting a jukebox. "Soothsayer Shot the Refrigerator" just doesn't sound like a hit.
Posted by: Mark Chestnut/i] at July 29, 2018 08:45 PM (5Yee7)

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How about "Calm Mentor Shot the Washing Machine?".

Cuz I really did that once upon a time, with an incredibly stupid ND.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 29, 2018 08:52 PM (I16G8)

205 s/funs/guns

A semi-Freudian slip?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at July 29, 2018 08:53 PM (4jqDR)

206
The original got pretty dark in spots. They had one episode where he runs into a Russian agent who killed some of his friends in Viet Nam.
Posted by: Ace's liver

Yeah, but then they'd do something like the episode where a samurai in full kit has an antique plate stolen by a ninja.

TV-set-destroyingly stupid.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 29, 2018 08:53 PM (zslj3)

207 Hairback Guy, nice job with the CZ-82. My no-new-calibers policy, plus not being in buying mode for various reasons, had kept me from jumping on some nice deals on those pistols (I think Classic has one now, as we speak, er, comment).

Used to get odds/ends from BuyMilsurp.com for my Mosins, good source.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 08:53 PM (QDnY+)

208
I'm glad to see July 2018 go away.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 29, 2018 08:54 PM (C23g2)

209
The power went out for a couple of hours. KTY enticed KTE to play cards on the floor, then hubby decided to teach them poker. Soon Mr Doggy was sitting there too, drooling on te deck and looking like he was waiting for his turn.

Our very own Dog Playing Poker.
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 29, 2018 08:51 PM (CE6iV)

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Unless it was captured on True Color Velvet, it didn't happenn.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 29, 2018 08:54 PM (WEBkv)

210 206: Hey, it was on for 8 seasons. Your libel to get some WTF episodes.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2018 08:54 PM (QKBK3)

211
Unfortunately there are no high power events in the Olympics. I think even smallbore has been phased out in favor of airfuns except for biathlon.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's phone at July 29, 2018 08:51 PM (4jqDR)
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Correct. Look for F-Class matches in your area. They're open to anyone willing to plunk down the entry fee. The greatest group of people you'll ever meet.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:55 PM (jXBkn)

212 I have been fascinated by the PTRD (the Soviet anti-tank rifle) since I have seen them in films and documentaries, but haven't looked into them. I assume they quickly became mostly useful against thin-skinned vehicles (maybe to include the Mk I German tanks?). Haven't looked online to see if anyone has test-fired them on UToob.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 08:33 PM

PTRD useful mostly against light armour, light tanks. PZ 2, 38-T. Of some use on some points of the early PZ-3 and PZ-4, but not to be relied upon for stopping those. It was relatively effective in 1941 when the wehrmacht was still using large numbers of light tanks in their front line panzer regiments, but by 42 it was a pinch hitter for light vehicles etc.

Posted by: otho at July 29, 2018 08:55 PM (LkFnL)

213
Bought one of those myself a few years back.

Didn't realize .303 was $1.50/round. Jeez.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 08:52 PM (h2Bdk)

I'm getting 80s German non corrosive for under $0.50 at SG Ammo. You can find a bung of new for $0.65-$0.70 as well.

I hear the cheap wold had some bullet issues and tends to keyhole, unfortunately.

Posted by: Keith at July 29, 2018 08:55 PM (USf3s)

214 weft-cut: LOL.

I know it was Chuck Norris, but as I recall it, Walker Texas Ranger did some ridiculous dumb shows.

I think there was one show where the plot suggested Walker was actually Jesus Christ or something like that. Good grief.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2018 08:55 PM (km8m2)

215 Meant "cheap Wolf" not cheap wold

Posted by: Keith at July 29, 2018 08:55 PM (USf3s)

216 because they listened and did what their doctors told them to, and men don't.
Posted by: bluebell at July 29, 2018

We're kind of stupid that way.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 29, 2018 08:55 PM (Q+wbH)

217 How about "Calm Mentor Shot the Washing Machine?".

Cuz I really did that once upon a time, with an incredibly stupid ND.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 29, 2018 08:52 PM (I16G

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In my household, I would probably get a medal if I shot the washing machine. Wife hates it with a passion. It's one of those "low water does a load in 2 hours" pieces of garbage.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 29, 2018 08:56 PM (WEBkv)

218 A long time ago I traded for a Lee Enfield Tanker. It is the loudest gun I ever lost in my canoe.

Posted by: X-ray at July 29, 2018 08:56 PM (QQ7V7)

219 ...Grandpa is so proud!
Posted by: Diogenes

Diogenes at long last, found that ~~honest man~~ Awesome Shooter!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 29, 2018 08:56 PM (QzJWU)

220 I'm glad to see July 2018 go away.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 29, 2018 08:54 PM (C23g2)

Ikr? First you were clogged, now your freezer.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: playtpus, gg channel at July 29, 2018 08:57 PM (hCbo0)

221 I'm glad to see July 2018 go away.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 29, 2018 08:54 PM

Word. Two wakes in less than a week here. This month has just sucked.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 29, 2018 08:58 PM (Q+wbH)

222

When I was pregnant with my first baby, my doctor was talking about why he chose to be an ob/gyn. I suggested it was because he liked delivering babies, but he said nope. It was because women were much better patients than men, because they listened and did what their doctors told them to, and men don't.

Posted by: bluebell at July 29, 2018 08:51 PM (JJZzu)
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That's it in a nutshell. Just do exactly what I tell you to do, when I tell you to do it. WeaselWoman doesn't, but I'm working on it!!

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 08:58 PM (MVjcR)

223 What American TV REALLY needs is an un-PC reboot of... The A-Team!

"In tonight's episode, the crew goes undercover after a renegade band of gender-bending SJWs create havoc wherever they go..."

Episode Title: "Danger At The Target Restroom"

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2018 08:58 PM (km8m2)

224 I've never hunted, but I keep a flyswatter in every room for the occasional centipede. Gotta get them on the first try, or else they're gone.
Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 08:39 PM
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Get yerself a Bug-A-Salt gun. They work great!

Posted by: IrishEi at July 29, 2018 08:58 PM (Ri0Ku)

225 Privi Partisan makes some very nice 303, and it is pretty reasonable too.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 29, 2018 08:58 PM (2K6fY)

226 Unless it was captured on True Color Velvet, it didn't happenn.
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 29, 2018 08:54 PM (WEBkv)

I did snap a photo, but the room is messy so I probably won't share it.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 29, 2018 09:00 PM (CE6iV)

227 Used to get odds/ends from BuyMilsurp.com for my Mosins, good source.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 08:53 PM (QDnY+)

Thanks rhomboid! I have had good service from those guys too.

I buy weapons less frequently now, except in rare cases.

To see a work of art like a Cz 82 sitting neglected gathering dust just ain't right.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 29, 2018 09:02 PM (EoRCO)

228 otho, thanks, pretty much what I assumed about the PTRD.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 09:02 PM (QDnY+)

229 In my household, I would probably get a medal if I shot the washing machine. Wife hates it with a passion. It's one of those "low water does a load in 2 hours" pieces of garbage.
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 29, 2018 08:56 PM (WEBkv)

Every time I look at the washing machine Glenn Reynold's "This is not how I expected the 21st century to turn out" line runs through my head. Sure, it doesn't use much water. But between that and the fact they removed phosphates from the soap it doesn't clean clothes nearly as well as the one my mom bought in 1965.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 09:02 PM (h2Bdk)

230 I grew up in a family of non-hunters. Did a little bit of hunting when I was stationed at Ft. Riley, but never got more than squirrels. Got my first deer in SE Oklahoma 20 years ago, and haven't been hunting since. Not that I didn't want to, the opportunity was never there.
Since I've returned to shooting, I've had a real desire to get back in the woods with a purpose. I'll have to learn everything all over, but I think that's part of the appeal.

Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at July 29, 2018 09:04 PM (iJMFr)

231 171 A 1942 US Army field ration

https://youtu.be/3ZtaBrQ-3EA

Hershey was instructed to not make the bar too tasty. "Slightly better than a boiled potato".
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 29, 2018 08:44 PM (rnAwa)

That was a nice video.

Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 09:06 PM (sdi6R)

232 Prvi makes good ammo - if I ever shoot through the pile of Soviet milsurp 54R I have (not sure that's likely) and need to start reloading that flavor, assume I'll just buy a few hundred rounds of Prvi 54R and use that brass forever.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 09:06 PM (QDnY+)

233 Ace's liver @ 229- Mom bought in 1965? My Granny washed clothes using lye soap and a black washpot over a wood fire. Outside. In all kinds of weather. We are such wussies today.

Posted by: Eromero at July 29, 2018 09:06 PM (zLDYs)

234 229 my dream is to get a Speed Queen washing machine.
Old School. Just knobs and dials. 29 min every load

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 29, 2018 09:07 PM (CE6iV)

235 231 171 A 1942 US Army field ration

https://youtu.be/3ZtaBrQ-3EA

Hershey was instructed to not make the bar too tasty. "Slightly better than a boiled potato".
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 29, 2018 08:44 PM (rnAwa)

That was a nice video.
Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 09:06 PM (sdi6R)

I love his videos. They're always fascinating to me, and he seems like a cool dude.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2018 09:07 PM (NWiLs)

236 **fist bump vm**
My next washer and dryer will be Speed Queen too

Posted by: lin-duh at July 29, 2018 09:09 PM (kufk0)

237 Finished cleaning the M57. Took it out shooting Mon and Wed.
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Needs a LOT of breaking in. I was almost unable to pull the trigger on the first magazine. That got better.

Got 5 magazines. 2 of them are unusable. The slide locks up when you rack it with them in the grip. a 3rd magazine "works" but, over 27 shots, the slide didn't return 23 or 24 times. I could rerack and fire the shot but that's not how it's supposed to work!

Other 2 mags are fine. I'll be returning the 3 lemons.

The gun is *very* comfortable to hold but, with the heavy trigger pull, it's not pleasant to shoot. Low recoil, a bit of muzzle flip.

I'll be seeing a gunsmith to see what he can do about the trigger. A tech at Classic Firearms says the glock-style trigger they installed interacts with the magazine safety resulting in a lot of metal on metal contact that makes the trigger stiff.
I could remove the mag safety
I could remove the trigger and replace with an original TT-33 trigger (less than $20!)
I could do both!
I'll discuss it with the gunsmith.

My estimate is that when I get the trigger issue resolved I'll like shooting this a lot!

Posted by: ArthurK at July 29, 2018 09:09 PM (OunYr)

238 To answer the questions above about printed guns -

The quality is going to depend on how good the printer is. Right now, a 3D printer that's affordable for the average person isn't going to have the needed quality to make a durable weapon. But the quality of the printers is improving. As an example, I read a year or so ago that the aviation industry (which is DEFINITELY not going to tolerate low quality parts) has started to use the printers. I'd guess that the ones they're using are a much better quality - and significantly more expensive - than what a hobbyist would be able to afford.

So give it another decade, and I'll bet you'll be able to print a decent quality gun as the prices come down on the printers.

Posted by: junior at July 29, 2018 09:10 PM (sJed/)

239 otho, thanks, pretty much what I assumed about the PTRD.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 09:02 PM

No worries. You assumed correctly. It was an effective weapon conceived and brought into service during a time when light armour dominated most tank doctrines and formations.

Posted by: otho at July 29, 2018 09:11 PM (LkFnL)

240 So, what makes 30-06 150 gr Garand any different from any other 30-06 150 gr?

Asking for my Remington 700 BDL. Stiffer milspec primers? Slightly weaker charges to baby wornout Garand gas systems?

$320/500 rounds (free shipping), Prvi Partizan manu.

Posted by: 30-06 plinker at July 29, 2018 09:11 PM (rIs/b)

241 Hunting since about 10. Upland game, but dove hunting is my favorite.

I grew up in west Texas so dove hunting was great and the season was long. Here in central Oklahoma, if you can find a decent lease, the season begins Sept. 1 and is pretty much over about a week later when the first cool front passes through. I miss it.

I have dreams of dove hunting. Weird,right?

Posted by: Blutarski at July 29, 2018 09:11 PM (+Tibp)

242 Well, I've decided what to do with that spare AR-15 stripped upper rattling around in a parts box. Gonna order a 224 Valkyrie barrel later this week. Need to decide on length.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf = at July 29, 2018 09:11 PM (di1hb)

243 the bulldozer just left yesterday, partly clearing up some of the deer food plots. But I don't hunt, I mostly take pictures of the wildlife ... though may one day take a deer. I just put down a bunch of clover, alfalfa, radish before a 2" rain so should look good for fall/winter.

Would love to attract turkey, quail, maybe even pheasant. To do that also takes removing a lot of "vermin" that have gotten out of control. So I don't "hunt" I "guard" -- the garden compound, which is about a half acre. That's all just 22 action, and sometimes cage traps.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 29, 2018 09:11 PM (bT8Z4)

244 Never been much of a hunter beyond a taste for birds - only take what I can cook, and necessity - culling 10 or so hogs a year from my property. I don't consider the two (guns and hunting) a required connection but I think the skills relative to both are useful.

Posted by: rammajamma at July 29, 2018 09:12 PM (mJmCN)

245 240 So, what makes 30-06 150 gr Garand any different from any other 30-06 150 gr?

Asking for my Remington 700 BDL. Stiffer milspec primers? Slightly weaker charges to baby wornout Garand gas systems?

$320/500 rounds (free shipping), Prvi Partizan manu.
Posted by: 30-06 plinker at July 29, 2018 09:11 PM (rIs/b)
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I think the stuff marketed specifically for Garands are loaded to develop lower pressures, to keep from bending the op rod.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 09:13 PM (MVjcR)

246 'Trump 2020' banner unfurled at Yankee Stadium

Sometime around the eighth inning, fans in right field unfurled a large banner advocating for the re-election of Donald Trump for president in 2020.

NY Morons?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 29, 2018 09:13 PM (SiINZ)

247
Earlier today I saw a car with a 'Molon Labe' bumper sticker. I've lived in California for six years now and never saw anything pro-gun (outside of a gun shop) before today.
Posted by: Surfperch at July 29, 2018 08:34 PM (BHRUO)

Because having pro-gun stickers is a good way to get your car keyed in a lot of places in CA.

Unless you're sneaky about it. I had one of these on my SUV when I was still in SoCal (still do, now that I'm in TX). No one was the wiser, except the folks at the range.

https://tinyurl.com/y9dmhrl6

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2018 09:13 PM (eXA4G)

248

I hunted rabbit, squirrel and dove back home in Alabama. Was one of the kids who'd carry his shotgun to school in the trunk to go hunting after school.

Never hunted deer ("No, Darling" /Three Stooges) but worked with a bunch of deer hunters. I always had venison in the freezer during deer season thanks to them. And deer jerky too. Yum.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 29, 2018 09:14 PM (HaL55)

249 I hunt for meat on sale at Quality Foods, and I am always successful.

It's a gift.

Posted by: ALH at July 29, 2018 09:14 PM (8kkL4)

250
remember the gun JOHN MALKOVICH made from WOOD in that MOVIE?
Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at July 29, 2018 08:17 PM (C23g2)

Heh. I can't drive in a nail without splitting the wood. But a wooden barrel? What could go wrong?
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 08:22 PM (h2Bdk)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wooden_cannon

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2018 09:14 PM (eXA4G)

251 Technology that lets us make a single shot pistol is horrible and must be stopped. The clowns screaming that fail to realize a single shot pistol is 15th century technology, and $10 bucks at Ace hardware should be enough for material. Hell, there's 8th century wannabees in the boondocks of Pakistan hammering out AKs , Webleys, and Enfields with basic hand tools and a forge.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at July 29, 2018 09:16 PM (xzqr4)

252 251 Technology that lets us make a single shot pistol is horrible and must be stopped. The clowns screaming that fail to realize a single shot pistol is 15th century technology, and $10 bucks at Ace hardware should be enough for material. Hell, there's 8th century wannabees in the boondocks of Pakistan hammering out AKs , Webleys, and Enfields with basic hand tools and a forge.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at July 29, 2018 09:16 PM (xzqr4)

We'll send in our crack team of patent lawyers and stop that right away!

Posted by: Department of Justice at July 29, 2018 09:17 PM (NWiLs)

253 149 Future Olympian I am thinking.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 08:36 PM (0tfLf)
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I was thinking the very same thing.

Posted by: bluebell at July 29, 2018 08:38 PM (JJZzu)

xxxxx

I was thinking biathlon.
She is a remarkable athlete.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 09:17 PM (0tfLf)

254 I Shot the Washer ... but I did not shoot the Ironing Board ...

Posted by: Songs Eric Clapton Didn't Sing ... at July 29, 2018 09:19 PM (AoK0a)

255 Sweet decal, ITC! I want one for Mrs. E's little monster truck. She has the hula girl carrying an AR already.

Posted by: Eromero at July 29, 2018 09:19 PM (zLDYs)

256 Because having pro-gun stickers is a good way to get your car keyed in a lot of places in CA.

Unless you're sneaky about it. I had one of these on my SUV when I was still in SoCal (still do, now that I'm in TX). No one was the wiser, except the folks at the range.

https://tinyurl.com/y9dmhrl6
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2018 09:13 PM (eXA4G)

Yeah, that's why I'd never put a pro-Trump or pro-gun sticker on my bumper where I live in CA. Chances are too high they'd either key my car or get in my face as urged by Crazy Maxine.

Also, I recall when people started open-carry in SoCal one of the LAPD detectives threatened to shoot anyone who did, even though it was legal. For some reason cops in CA assume they're the only ones allowed to have guns.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 09:19 PM (h2Bdk)

257 @212

PTRD useful mostly against light armour, light tanks. PZ 2, 38-T. Of some use on some points of the early PZ-3 and PZ-4, but not to be relied upon for stopping those. It was relatively effective in 1941 when the wehrmacht was still using large numbers of light tanks in their front line panzer regiments, but by 42 it was a pinch hitter for light vehicles etc.
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The British had one, too - the Boys Anti-Tank Rifle. You could use them to take out the tracks on the later tanks, but not much else. The British replaced theirs' with the PIAT. But I don't think the Soviets ever mass produced a man-portable HEAT weapon for their own troops during the war.

Posted by: junior at July 29, 2018 09:20 PM (sJed/)

258 30-06 Plinker, pretty much what Weasel said.

Garand ammo has pressure profiles within a certain range, designed to operate the rifle's gas system but not damage the gun (op rod is usually what people talk about, but I'm not sure I've ever seen an example of a bent op rod).

Primers may/may not be "military", that is thicker cups, less sensitive, because of the M1's floating firing pin. I use the military ones, many reloaders do not - not sure what Prvi uses.

And dang, that's a very good price for Prvi Garand ammo (partly due to the free shipping part). I have a can of 500 myself, bought last year during my final stocking up on commercial ammo before yet another new stupid CA law took effect, which is my "reserve". I've still got several hundred rounds of Greek HXP surplus to shoot up - I use that brass for reloading.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 09:20 PM (QDnY+)

259 Also, I recall when people started open-carry in SoCal one of the LAPD detectives threatened to shoot anyone who did, even though it was legal. For some reason cops in CA assume they're the only ones allowed to have guns.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 09:19 PM (h2Bdk)

Open carriers are not infrequently harassed by the police, despite it being lawfully done.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2018 09:21 PM (NWiLs)

260 hola!

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 29, 2018 09:22 PM (iQPMQ)

261 260 hola!
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 29, 2018 09:22 PM (iQPMQ)

Whassup, mang?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2018 09:23 PM (NWiLs)

262 Weasel,
Once I figure out how to get my granddaughter shooting competitively we may need to chat.
Sadly she lives in California. But her parents are supportive. Just need to find where she can learn.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 09:24 PM (0tfLf)

263 Personal preferences/circumstances vary, widely. I never put any stickers of any kind on a car. I damn sure wouldn't put any political or gun-related ones, unless maybe I lived in rural ID or something (even then, don't like stuff on cars). Living in CA, it's whatever the rating is that's *below* a "non-starter".

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 09:25 PM (QDnY+)

264 The cool thing about 3D printing is that the computer files that control the printing of parts are information.

Therefore, attempting to suppress 3D printing not only violates the Second Amendment, but also the First.

Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 09:26 PM (sdi6R)

265 240 So, what makes 30-06 150 gr Garand any different from any other 30-06 150 gr?

Asking for my Remington 700 BDL. Stiffer milspec primers? Slightly weaker charges to baby wornout Garand gas systems?

$320/500 rounds (free shipping), Prvi Partizan manu.
Posted by: 30-06 plinker at July 29, 2018 09:11 PM (rIs/b)

*Some* commercial ammo will exceed the M2 Ball cartridge in peak pressure or total impulse. That gets you into excessive wear or damage territory. Priv Partisan 180 gr is such a load.

Now, that is with a standard USGI gas cylinder screw. You can get aftermarket screws that are ported so you can avoid the excessive conditions.

http://www.garandgear.com/m1-garand-ammunition

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 29, 2018 09:27 PM (di1hb)

266 My friend was in Hawaii visiting her beau. She was on the bus stop when a red Ferrari pulled up. It was Magnum PI. He drove her to her destination, thinking she was a college kid. He was floored when he found out she was a psychiatrirt. He asked her out but she declined. I couldn't believe it... surely her BF would have understood if she cancelled 'cause Tom Selleck!

Posted by: kallisto at July 29, 2018 09:29 PM (jtqoO)

267 The reality is this: the Congress (particularly the Senate) is failing to do its job.

The Judicairy is exceeding its job.

Posted by: JAS at July 29, 2018 09:29 PM (3HNOQ)

268 264 The cool thing about 3D printing is that the computer files that control the printing of parts are information.

Therefore, attempting to suppress 3D printing not only violates the Second Amendment, but also the First.
Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 09:26 PM (sdi6R)

The way they're trying to approach it is by using ITAR, as if gun manufacture were a closely held secret known only to artisans in the US. Remember when there were two version of Netscape Navigator, one for the US market and the "export version"? The government had declared cryptography to be a non-exportable military technology. That silliness went on for years.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 09:29 PM (h2Bdk)

269 "There is no "sport" in shooting animals. Unless absolutely necessary for food. Call of the wild. Otherwise, well.... "

This is such as annoying crock of shit. It goes right with all the other bullshit lies the fucking tyrants tell.

Wild animals have far superior hearing, scent, and eyesight than us. Whatever advantage we get from camouflage, scent covers, and firearms is still not close to evening the playing field. How many hunters do you know that end up empty handed every year? I know a lot.

Posted by: Eustace Haverkamp at July 29, 2018 09:29 PM (C1NyB)

270 How about this for a sneaky bumper sticker:

"Melon Lob"

Posted by: Emmie at July 29, 2018 09:30 PM (4HMW8)

271 262 Weasel,
Once I figure out how to get my granddaughter shooting competitively we may need to chat.
Sadly she lives in California. But her parents are supportive. Just need to find where she can learn.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 09:24 PM (0tfLf)
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That would absolutely be my pleasure.- just let me know. I was at a match a couple of years ago and was squadded with a guy from CA, who said there are a couple of ranges with active match programs. Realistically, traveling to matches is kind of a necessity as there just aren't that many facilities set up for long range competition.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 09:30 PM (MVjcR)

272 Be careful with all this washing-machine-shooting.

We don't want the ONT's "Genius Award Winner" to be an article about a guy who shot his washer, and hit the gas line to his dryer with a ricochet off the washer's tub.

Posted by: mikeski at July 29, 2018 09:30 PM (P1f+c)

273 The cool thing about 3D printing is that the computer files that control the printing of parts are information.

Therefore, attempting to suppress 3D printing not only violates the Second Amendment, but also the First.
Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2018 09:26 PM (sdi6R)

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There will be a long, drawn out case about this issue, that will make it all the way to SCOTUS, with a local, a State Supreme and then a Circuit court ban on info distribution of said info.

It will win at SCOTUS, but that has been the method these pricks use.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 29, 2018 09:31 PM (I16G8)

274 272 Be careful with all this washing-machine-shooting.

We don't want the ONT's "Genius Award Winner" to be an article about a guy who shot his washer, and hit the gas line to his dryer with a ricochet off the washer's tub.
Posted by: mikeski at July 29, 2018 09:30 PM (P1f+c)

Unless they load it with Tannerite first and video record the whole thing.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2018 09:32 PM (NWiLs)

275 Thanxs Weasel.
I was just totally stunned by the raw talent. The range master was really excited by what she could accomplish.
I will keep you posted.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 09:33 PM (0tfLf)

276 Unless they load it with Tannerite first and video record the whole thing.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2018 09:32 PM (NWiLs)

Is that a reference to the guy who lost his leg after loading up a... lawnmower, I think it was, with Tannerite and shooting it from, like, 25 yards? That video was hard to watch.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 09:34 PM (h2Bdk)

277 How about this for a sneaky bumper sticker:

"Melon Lob"
Posted by: Emmie
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*hands Emmie a Gold Star*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2018 09:34 PM (CDGwz)

278 275 Thanxs Weasel.
I was just totally stunned by the raw talent. The range master was really excited by what she could accomplish.
I will keep you posted.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 09:33 PM (0tfLf)
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Please do!

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 09:35 PM (MVjcR)

279 For some reason cops in CA assume they're the only ones allowed to have guns.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 09:19 PM (h2Bdk)

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yeah, i was talking with some LAPD cops before a meeting, and one told me, after i'd mentioned CCW as a way of reducing crime, that only police should be allowed to carry.

i asked him how often he went to the range. he said he only went for qualification, because they didn't pay him to otherwise. i giggled, and he was not pleased.

i also upset a few when i opined that one good ol' boy in the neighborhood could have stopped the North Hollywood Shoot Out with two rounds of a deer rifle, because "what bullet proof vest?"

i then suggested that a smart cop would carry a Garand or M1-A in the trunk, or at least an AR-10, and not an AR-15. that way you would have penetration AND firepower.

yup: winning friend and influencing people, everywhere i go.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 29, 2018 09:35 PM (iQPMQ)

280 257 @212

...But I don't think the Soviets ever mass produced a man-portable HEAT weapon for their own troops during the war.
Posted by: junior at July 29, 2018 09:20 PM (sJed/)

Sure they did. But they were hand-held grenades, not rocket launched. The RPG-43 was deployed in 1943. 95mm HEAT warhead.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 29, 2018 09:36 PM (di1hb)

281 276 Unless they load it with Tannerite first and video record the whole thing.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2018 09:32 PM (NWiLs)

Is that a reference to the guy who lost his leg after loading up a... lawnmower, I think it was, with Tannerite and shooting it from, like, 25 yards? That video was hard to watch.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 09:34 PM (h2Bdk)

Not necessarily but it is evocative of that now that you mention it.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2018 09:36 PM (NWiLs)

282 JAS, I sense that awareness of the Senate's near complete failure (even to try and shape the political landscape such that GOP numbers there would grow) is quite limited. It's one reason I whined earlier today about the "losing" going on - not "winning".

Apart from Grassley at Judiciary, on the Mega-Scandals, and occasionally Johnson at Oversight on the same - and of course judicial appointments - Senate is a complete disaster (in terms of actually helping make Trump's key agenda items reality). On immigration/border security, and spending (not yet clear about key specific things, like EPA budget), stage is set for another debacle. Trump oddly said today he'd do shutdown-theater over it. I see no signs of any plan to make the key issues the ones that tilt the Senate races.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 09:37 PM (QDnY+)

283 Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 09:29 PM (h2Bdk)

They couldn't use the ITAR to ban anything within the US. It's only applicable to anything exported to other countries.

Posted by: bonnieblue at July 29, 2018 09:37 PM (PWaoN)

284 My brother shot his radio. It went downhill from there.

Posted by: kallisto at July 29, 2018 09:37 PM (jtqoO)

285 How about this for a sneaky bumper sticker:

"Melon Lob"
Posted by: Emmie
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*hands Emmie a Gold Star*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Whenever I find a bumper sticker that I like, I stick it on a trimmed piece of magnetic sign material, and slap it on the tailgate of my truck. That way the finish isn't damaged when it's time to remove the 'sticker'.

My favorite was 'Stop Global Whining'. I actually saw people pointing at that and laughing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2018 09:37 PM (xSo9G)

286
i then suggested that a smart cop would carry a Garand or M1-A in the trunk, or at least an AR-10, and not an AR-15. that way you would have penetration AND firepower.

yup: winning friend and influencing people, everywhere i go.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 29, 2018 09:35 PM (iQPMQ)
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If I had to grab a rifle in a hurry, it would be my M1A

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 09:38 PM (MVjcR)

287 @112 I believe the events surrounding the Irene Incident led to the plot line of the Milt Caniff adventure comic strip "Terry and The Pirates."

Caniff also created Steve Canyon (there's a statue of him in Idaho Springs, which once changed its name to Steve Canyon), and Caniff was the first artist of the Air Force Academy.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at July 29, 2018 09:38 PM (8ZmvG)

288 i asked him how often he went to the range. he said he only went for qualification, because they didn't pay him to otherwise. i giggled, and he was not pleased.

I finally realized why the cops have their own range after seeing them shoot at mine. Most of 'em just don't practice. I guess anything that's part of your job becomes a chore, but I'd like to think if I were a cop I'd keep up on a skill that might save my life. Urban California isn't the kind of place you can go a whole LEO career without drawing your gun.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 09:39 PM (h2Bdk)

289 Be careful with all this washing-machine-shooting.

We don't want the ONT's "Genius Award Winner" to be an article about a guy who shot his washer, and hit the gas line to his dryer with a ricochet off the washer's tub.
Posted by: mikeski at July 29, 2018 09:30 PM (P1f+c)

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Heh. I can say, with some authority as the idiot who actually did this, that a .38 HP round, after penetrating a hollow core door, the exterior shell of the washing machine, the drum holder and one side of the drum, will land safely in the drum from about 12' away.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 29, 2018 09:39 PM (I16G8)

290 Thanks IMG, I was wondering about that, thought the Soviets had *something* in the field during the war.

Though I'd guess Panzerfaust pick-ups were as popular an item as anything Soviet-made.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 09:40 PM (QDnY+)

291 123 There is no "sport" in shooting animals. Unless absolutely necessary for food. Call of the wild. Otherwise, well....

Especially so-called 'trophy' hunting.

And I own a gun and am totally 2nd A.
Posted by: Bobby Ahr
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Not true. Animal populations need to be managed or overpopulation and disease becomes a problem. Recently Kansas City hired professional bow hunters to cull the deer population within city limits because of all the traffic accidents.

As long as the meat doesn't go to waste hunting is a valid hobby. I personally don't hunt, but that's a personal choice.

Posted by: Guzalot at July 29, 2018 09:42 PM (schB/)

292 The guy who taught me to shoot also offered a course for graduates of military precision marksmanship schools, and for law enforcement sniper and SWAT teams. He became so disgusted with the attitude of the cops he stopped offering the course to their agencies.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 09:42 PM (MVjcR)

293 Diogenes, where in CA?

it's a big place, or, at least looong, but i'm sure i can help, even long distance.

just put my nick in front of AT moronhorde.DOT com, and we can talk off line.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 29, 2018 09:43 PM (iQPMQ)

294 Hey Horde ...

... sorry to bother - still in Kuala Lampur. Sounds like I'll be here for a while.

Howdy.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2018 09:43 PM (cqzjS)

295 294 Hey Horde ...

... sorry to bother - still in Kuala Lampur. Sounds like I'll be here for a while.

Howdy.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2018 09:43 PM (cqzjS)
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Howdy Amigo! Long time!

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 09:44 PM (MVjcR)

296 294 Hey Horde ...

... sorry to bother - still in Kuala Lampur. Sounds like I'll be here for a while.

Howdy.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2018 09:43 PM (cqzjS)

You're a koala lumper now?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 29, 2018 09:45 PM (NWiLs)

297 Because having pro-gun stickers is a good way to get your car keyed in a lot of places in CA.

Unless you're sneaky about it. I had one of these on my SUV when I was still in SoCal (still do, now that I'm in TX). No one was the wiser, except the folks at the range.

https://tinyurl.com/y9dmhrl6
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2018 09:13 PM (eXA4G)

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On the plus side, it's impossible that a snowflake will have the vaguest clue about Thermopylae.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 29, 2018 09:45 PM (uSlc8)

298 Hey Horde ...

... sorry to bother - still in Kuala Lampur. Sounds like I'll be here for a while.

Howdy.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2018 09:43 PM (cqzjS)

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Howdy. I've been. My most sincere condolences to you.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 29, 2018 09:45 PM (I16G8)

299 Hey Horde ...

... sorry to bother - still in Kuala Lampur. Sounds like I'll be here for a while.

Howdy.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2018 09:43 PM (cqzjS)

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I love koalas.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 29, 2018 09:46 PM (uSlc8)

300 @290

The Soviets captured a ridiculous number of Panzerfausts after Operation Bagration in the Summer of '44. From what I understand, they gave many of them to the assault engineers for use against bunkers and the like.

Posted by: junior at July 29, 2018 09:46 PM (sJed/)

301 Is that in Ceylon? Siam? Burma? I forget.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2018 09:46 PM (CDGwz)

302 Bendy straws, molon labe.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 29, 2018 09:46 PM (rnAwa)

303 ... sorry to bother - still in Kuala Lampur. Sounds like I'll be here for a while.

Howdy.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2018 09:43 PM (cqzjS)

sounds hot
not in a good way

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 29, 2018 09:47 PM (CE6iV)

304 Hey Horde ...

... sorry to bother - still in Kuala Lampur. Sounds like I'll be here for a while.

Howdy.

Posted by: ScoggDog

Take your time there and hurry back.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 29, 2018 09:47 PM (n5CNg)

305 still in Kuala Lampur. Sounds like I'll be here for a while.
Posted by: ScoggDog

Hey Scogg.

Hopefully not because of:

"More than 150 immigrants detained in overnight police raids in Malaysia"

I guess Trump is MMGA.

Posted by: mikeski at July 29, 2018 09:47 PM (P1f+c)

306 NRA plates on the SUV and an American flag and Molon Labe sticker on the truck. No problems yet and I am waaaaaay the hell behind enemy lines.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 09:48 PM (MVjcR)

307 Moron Ave

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 29, 2018 09:48 PM (CE6iV)

308 When I was pregnant with my first baby, my doctor was talking about why he chose to be an ob/gyn. I suggested it was because he liked delivering babies, but he said nope. It was because women were much better patients than men, because they listened and did what their doctors told them to, and men don't.

Posted by: bluebell

And that's why we can't have babies !

Guys don't listen !

Posted by: JT at July 29, 2018 09:49 PM (1NH69)

309 Platypus -

Do you eat what you kill ?

Posted by: JT at July 29, 2018 09:50 PM (1NH69)

310 290 Thanks IMG, I was wondering about that, thought the Soviets had *something* in the field during the war.

Though I'd guess Panzerfaust pick-ups were as popular an item as anything Soviet-made.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 09:40 PM (QDnY+)

During Barbarossa, the AT grenade was the RPG-40. Not HEAT. Grenade weighed about 2.5 lbs. About half that weight was TNT. OK vs Pz I and II. Iffy against a Pz III. Pray for spall vs Pz IV. 20 mm armor penetration. Regular hand grenades are under 1 lb in weight, so you had to get very close, indeed, to throw and hit with an AT grenade.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 29, 2018 09:50 PM (di1hb)

311 Scogg once again I'm envious of your food opportunities there, but tastes vary, I know.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2018 09:51 PM (QDnY+)

312 We're gonna rock down to
Moron avenue
And then we'll take it higher

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 29, 2018 09:51 PM (uSlc8)

313 Do I hunt?

I have been known to hunt snipe, for sure.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at July 29, 2018 09:52 PM (CPk08)

314 Tom Selleck has a 1911 and a Danang cap.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 29, 2018 09:53 PM (uSlc8)

315 (301) Down the street from Ascalon.

Posted by: ro-man at July 29, 2018 09:53 PM (RuIsu)

316 I am not a hunter, but I think keeping the population at a manageable level is much better than having them killed on the highway. As someone who rode motorcycles, I was always wary at dusk and dawn. Motorcycle versus Deer or Elk is usually going to give you a bad day. I have friends who are hunters and they aren't the indiscriminate killers snowflakes think they are. Most of them are animal lovers. My best friend is an amazing bow hunter and she always gets our Thanksgiving turkey.

Posted by: abby at July 29, 2018 09:54 PM (fILrg)

317 All right. Bedtime. Later y'all.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2018 09:54 PM (MVjcR)

318 I lost my taste for killing, while in the service. I do not hunt anymore.

Posted by: Ex-GI at July 29, 2018 09:55 PM (gfQAD)

319 My brother shot his radio. It went downhill from there.

Posted by: kallisto

Nice to see ya !

There was somebody name Kakisto posting here.

Posted by: JT at July 29, 2018 09:56 PM (1NH69)

320 Ok, so... MSNBC, ostensibly a "news" organization, is showing All The President's Men right now.

This is ridiculous.

Posted by: eleven at July 29, 2018 09:57 PM (NLLmE)

321 Platypus -

Do you eat what you kill ?
Posted by: JT at July 29, 2018 09:50 PM (1NH69)

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My people took only what they could use, and let no part of the buffalo go to waste.

Posted by: Elizabeth "Three Wolf Moon" Warren at July 29, 2018 09:57 PM (uSlc8)

322 Tom Selleck has a 1911 and a Danang cap.
Posted by: Cicero
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...and yummy cableknit sweater!

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at July 29, 2018 09:57 PM (xSo9G)

323 Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2018 09:43 PM (cqzjS)

I hope as many fun things that can be enjoyed on your trip, are ...

Posted by: Adriane the Ethnic Food Critic ... at July 29, 2018 09:58 PM (AoK0a)

324 "109 So this dumb ass city I live in hired itself an "Equity Officer" whom they pay over $100,000 a year."

My favorite is where Austin hired on a "Bicycle Czar" to advocate for bicycles and ze was given a car allowance.

Austin, they can't find ways to spend your money foolishly fast enough.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 29, 2018 09:58 PM (lD3vL)

325 Nyah?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2018 10:00 PM (IG3bX)

326 For the hunting is cruel, barbaric, blah blah punks: deer, rabbits, and other game species are over populated; many thousands starve to death because their habitat does not support their populations. Culling their populations benefits them. Unlike modern day humans, only the strong survive.

So please EDUCATE yourself or continue staring at the opening of your alimenary canal with a flashlight and a mirror.

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 29, 2018 10:00 PM (enccL)

327 299 Hey Horde ...

... sorry to bother - still in Kuala Lampur. Sounds like I'll be here for a while.

Howdy.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2018 09:43 PM (cqzjS)

Ah. Visiting those lady boys again! 'S OK, we all know the former squids have their own tastes. Doesn't mean we approve, of course.

Posted by: Oldster, disgusted with whippersnappers morals at July 29, 2018 10:01 PM (rIs/b)

328 " Hell, there's 8th century wannabees in the boondocks of Pakistan hammering out AKs , Webleys, and Enfields with basic hand tools and a forge."

US Millennials can't even operate a tape measure without a suite of youtube videos to demonstrate how.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 29, 2018 10:01 PM (lD3vL)

329 Nyah?

Posted by: Anna Puma

Oh, all right, if you insist !

Posted by: JT at July 29, 2018 10:02 PM (1NH69)

330 "297 Because having pro-gun stickers is a good way to get your car keyed in a lot of places in CA. "

You are doing it wrong, you are supposed to slap those stickers on someone's car you wish to have vandalized.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 29, 2018 10:04 PM (lD3vL)

331 US Millennials can't even operate a tape measure without a suite of youtube videos to demonstrate how.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 29, 2018 10:01 PM (lD3vL)

If you don't talk about it at home, they learn about it out there on youtube.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 29, 2018 10:05 PM (rnAwa)

332 US Millennials can't even operate a tape measure without a suite of youtube videos to demonstrate how.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy

HEY!

I couldn't get that damn thing to stick to anything !

Posted by: Adriane the Construction Paper Project Critic ... at July 29, 2018 10:05 PM (AoK0a)

333 The ONT has just been shot.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 29, 2018 10:06 PM (N1ZXu)

334 "109 So this dumb ass city I live in hired itself an "Equity Officer" whom they pay over $100,000 a year."
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Asheville has established an Office of Equity Management, the manager is paid $123,000/yr, and the office is budgeted for a total of around $200,000.

" the vision supports the goal of an inclusive, diverse community by using a "racial equity lens to review and achieve our City's strategic goals in health, education, housing and economic mobility."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2018 10:07 PM (xSo9G)

335 ONT is up

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 29, 2018 10:07 PM (I16G8)

336 ScoggDog, you are in my former homeland. Try to survive the humidity and mosquitos.

Posted by: IC at July 29, 2018 10:08 PM (S6dPn)

337 "Therefore, attempting to suppress 3D printing not only violates the Second Amendment, but also the First."

Let me introduce you to the TSA. Their mission statement is to specifically and categorically deny you your 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th, 10th and possibly the 14th Amendments.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 29, 2018 10:08 PM (lD3vL)

338 Have hunted since a kid. First with Dad and brothers, then with a good friend and nowadays with my sons. We always stressed practicing shooting because it's important to take animals humanely, and we do get a lot of game and have hunted all over this great nation. Never really thought of guns as weapons until I was an adult. Rifles and shotguns were considered sports equipment like a bat and ball. My dad, his brothers and his friends were all either WW2 or Korean war vets. Maybe they didn't want to see them as weapons any more.

Posted by: Cosda at July 29, 2018 10:09 PM (CPXsC)

339 Shadowbanning? No, open banning. I'm sitting in McDonalds in Jantzen Beach, Oregon (north of Portland on the Columbia River), and the McDonalds wifi is blocking Ace of Spades. Haven't seen this at other McDonalds. Had to go 4g.

Posted by: bradc at July 29, 2018 10:10 PM (zEH23)

340 "Asheville has established an Office of Equity Management, the manager is paid $123,000/yr, and the office is budgeted for a total of around $200,000. "

Yeah, but does Asheville tax rain like Austin does?

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at July 29, 2018 10:10 PM (lD3vL)

341 The 2nd Amd. of course is not about hunting. Or even crime, per se although it recognizes a God-given right of self-defense.

It is about the security of a free state. Not a Deep State. A free state, comprised of free people. And resistance to an unfree state.

Many a would-be tyrant has choked on the 2nd. It is my firm belief that they would have already herded us into the camps without it. They wouldn't have even bothered to hide the recent and ongoing Deep State Coup Attempt if there were no 2nd Amd.

Our Founders knew the urge to tyrannize was a permanent feature of fallen man. And just when their legacy is most in jeopardy, we got a patriot champion, praise God.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 29, 2018 10:16 PM (Ndje9)

342 319. HI JT. That was me misspelling my own nic

Posted by: kallisto at July 29, 2018 10:18 PM (LxBcy)

343 113
Been waiting all week to talk about this.

Took my granddaughter to the range. Only her second time shooting.

She wanted to try my 308.

So she did. I was stunned. At 100 Meyers you could cover her shot group with a quarter.

The range master was an old shooter from viet Nam.

He watched. Invited her to shoot his match rifle.

4 for 4 in the black at 250 meters.

And she just turned 15.

Grandpa is so proud!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 29, 2018 08:29 PM (0tfLf)

Great story. The granddaughter deserves all the attention and kudos. But secretly, you know deep down inside, it was her good genes.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 29, 2018 10:22 PM (UsCnO)

344 HI JT. That was me misspelling my own nic

Posted by: kallisto

I was gettin' ready to launch an investigation.

As soon as I found my pants .

Posted by: JT at July 29, 2018 10:23 PM (1NH69)

345 2nd Amend has nothing to do with hunting.
If so, then when the last deer is shot and the last duck is shot, the we should all turn in our guns.
Or, the founders, who just got over a shooting war, some how started to get concerned with hunters.
Absurd.

Posted by: Big Al at July 29, 2018 10:32 PM (BHaRb)

346 So, I saw the advert for the raffle and seeing as how my father, uncle and especially my favorite niece's hubby who was a sniper in Iraq are USMC I bought 3 tickets. I hope they reach their goal.

Posted by: Gmac - 'All politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at July 29, 2018 10:46 PM (qZdIZ)

347 I have the simple ar boltface sticker. Only the cognizant need to know.

Posted by: Jean at July 29, 2018 10:48 PM (Cnt92)

348 339 Shadowbanning? No, open banning. I'm sitting in McDonalds in Jantzen Beach, Oregon (north of Portland on the Columbia River), and the McDonalds wifi is blocking Ace of Spades. Haven't seen this at other McDonalds. Had to go 4g.
Posted by: bradc at July 29, 2018 10:10 PM (zEH23)

Ace of Spades was really spotty where I used to work. They had some kind of Net Nanny program and the progs kept reporting it as a "hate site", it would get taken down, someone would appeal, it would go back up, then get taken down because someone reported it as a gun site, someone would appeal....

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2018 11:08 PM (h2Bdk)

349 Went bear scouting Friday. Spotted one in about 20 minutes. (That is not typical.) Will go back Aug 1 to try and add him to my freezer.

Posted by: igotnothing at July 30, 2018 12:06 AM (yk8Fu)

350 I do love this place.......hope you all saw my story earlier tonight.....and lay off the women hating.

Guys....it doesn't only happen to you.

Good night WDS

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at July 30, 2018 12:14 AM (pvj37)

351 Couple of observations:
Michigan reports 300k deer taken during rifle season. That doesn't count bow and black powder Car deer accidents are substantial.
So it's a heck of a population which can sustain maybe 400k non-natural deaths. Farmers consider them 200lb rats.
Any recipe--referring to venison--which starts out, "Sautee two pounds of onions in garlic butter".....

For generations, any popular hero was supposed to have served in the previous war, whichever one that was. Even the Roy Blakely series about Boy Scouts in the Twenties had an occasional character "Harry" who'd served in WW II.
The exception, of course, was Viet Nam. Magnum PI was the first, imo, to return to that trope. Good on them.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at July 30, 2018 12:35 AM (FfjkM)

352 Bluebell!!

Such a fitting tribute.

I forgot to mention I have a 5' by 3 ' (ie5x3) laminated, above my bed, of the naked bluebell wood.s

Best money I ever spent.

Posted by: Respectful admirer at July 30, 2018 01:15 AM (4ICl5)

353 I'm not a hunter; I just have a very modest collection of guns that I shoot for target practice only. That being said, I have no opposition to hunting: I just don't do it myself. (But if I DO see a coyote come this way, it will live a short and exciting life.)

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at July 30, 2018 03:55 AM (QyQ6+)

354 Let Gilboa make a double AR-10, with one side a shotgun, and they've got a sale.

Posted by: Chas C-Q at July 30, 2018 03:18 PM (Y0Piu)

355 ". . . <s>Gilboa</s> Silver Shadow . . ."

Posted by: Chas C-Q at July 30, 2018 03:20 PM (Y0Piu)

356 There is elitism in hunting also. I always find the people who hunt and are pro gun control are the country club hunters. They go on bird hunts with a $30,000 dollar shotgun with a butler in tow. They are the deer hunters who have a trophy room full of 160 inch and above bucks....yet only hunt one day a year and with a guide. Basically they hunt to get in the elite social circles.....and frown on the 'hillbilly' hunters who actually put in their time in the woods to become real hunters.

Posted by: Trapperguy at July 30, 2018 04:08 PM (JMK9N)

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