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The EPA May Terminate California's Very Special Right to Impose More Stringent Pollution-Control Measures Than the Clean Air Act Requires on the Rest of the Nation
Summing up: the Clean Air Act enacts national standards for things like cars' exhaust. But it contains a provision which states that any state may be granted a waiver permitting them to enact even more stringent regulations, so long as they're "necessary" for that state. California has sought such a waiver and has been granted that waiver for as long as the Clean Air Act has existed. California is the country's largest auto-market, so car manufacturers just build for California. It would be more costly to set up factories to produce some cars that are California-legal and some others that are legal everywhere else. So the waiver permits California to essentially set the nation's car-exhaust policies. This, of course, forces the rest of the country to subsidize California's environmental occultism, as the costs of these unnecessary abatement schemes are lowered in cost because their R&D costs are shared by a nation which doesn't need them, and California gets the savings of a massive economy of scale only by drafting unwilling Americans to be forced into being consumers of the products that they demand but which few others want. Trump's EPA seems ready to end this special perpetual waiver. Cue the whining about "owning the libs" from the people who are owned by the libs and want to remain owned by their generous liberal masters forever and ever.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 24, 2018 06:57 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at July 24, 2018 06:57 PM (Q4jRP)
Posted by: Surfperch at July 24, 2018 06:57 PM (A59VO)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 24, 2018 06:58 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 06:58 PM (DpEis)
Fuck California, I'm so sick of that failed state thinking they are in charge of America.
I'm sure though all the car makers will line up and denounce Trump since there never seems to be any penalty for Big Corps to play SJW all the while enjoining playing both sides.
Posted by: Jolly Roger at July 24, 2018 06:59 PM (UfkIY)
Of course, now the eco-fiend luddites are defining carbon dioxide, which plants actually covet, as a "Pollutant".
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 06:59 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 24, 2018 06:59 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: shibumi at July 24, 2018 06:59 PM (AHNMM)
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 07:00 PM (DpEis)
Posted by: The next addict at July 24, 2018 07:00 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: TruCons Everywhere, now with 80% more PRINCIPLES at July 24, 2018 07:00 PM (A59VO)
Posted by: freaked at July 24, 2018 07:00 PM (UdKB7)
We don't have strict federalism? Interstate Commerce Clause, BOFA.
Posted by: trev006 at July 24, 2018 07:01 PM (LBkA5)
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 07:01 PM (pHfeF)
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 07:01 PM (DpEis)
Posted by: Ever at July 24, 2018 07:01 PM (OLS0m)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 24, 2018 07:01 PM (KCxuz)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 24, 2018 06:58 PM (4ErVI)
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Me too. It is infuriating to pay $.50 more per gallon every mid May to mid September just so the Eco Nazis can feel better about themselves.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 24, 2018 07:01 PM (b3Pum)
Posted by: California at July 24, 2018 07:01 PM (HgMAr)
Of course, now the eco-fiend luddites are defining carbon dioxide, which plants actually covet, as a "Pollutant".
Posted by: Curmudgeon
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And computer controlled fuel injection fixed this, not bureaucrats from CARB.
If CA had done zero on this issue, cars would still be 99% cleaner then they were.
Liberals love to take credit for technology.
Posted by: Jolly Roger at July 24, 2018 07:02 PM (UfkIY)
Posted by: The MSM at July 24, 2018 07:02 PM (A59VO)
Our diesel trucks with a GVWR of more than 14,000 lbs, that are older than 2004 are not going to be allowed on the road starting in 2020. There is a repair for them but it is worth more than the trucks themselves. This is devastating for small business owners. So many are affected by this arbitary regulation. We already sold off several and had to replace them. Now we still have one left. Can't sell it, cuz they are no drivable here. And yes I do know others that sold them to other states at a great loss.
This state sucks.
Posted by: sally at July 24, 2018 07:02 PM (sBDDH)
Posted by: California at July 24, 2018 07:01 PM (HgMAr)
But heaven forbid you build the power plants necessary for all that electricity. The eco-Luddites here even shut down a perfectly functional atomic power plant, Rancho Seco, over hysteria.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 07:03 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: freaked at July 24, 2018 07:03 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2018 07:03 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 07:03 PM (pHfeF)
So yeah California drives the automobile industry.
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 24, 2018 07:03 PM (eAMlh)
Posted by: ShainS at July 24, 2018 07:03 PM (TPROn)
Stupid Californians.
Posted by: gebrauchshund at July 24, 2018 07:04 PM (fYnUU)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 24, 2018 06:58 PM
From our cold, dead fingers.
Posted by: Ethanol Subsidy-recipient Iowa corn farmers at July 24, 2018 07:04 PM (EzdLW)
As a public servant, I swear and vow to get to that creamy information that can be found erupting from Cali gov't sources' soft centers. Once that information is procured over many moonlight sleepless nights, I will diligently process it using my 4 data-information ports and spew it all over the NYT briefs for your enjoyment.
Posted by: Ali Watkins, NYT Reporter with Great Debriefing Skills at July 24, 2018 07:04 PM (Ta69/)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 24, 2018 07:05 PM (tZuUx)
Posted by: Ugh the Caveman at July 24, 2018 07:05 PM (HgMAr)
THIS IS THE FUCKING HILL TO DIE ON.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 07:05 PM (RRchO)
Posted by: It's me donna at July 24, 2018 07:05 PM (O2RFr)
"The State of California has determined this product will give you every horrible disease under the sun."
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at July 24, 2018 07:07 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 07:07 PM (DpEis)
If CA had done zero on this issue, cars would still be 99% cleaner then they were.
Liberals love to take credit for technology.
Posted by: Jolly Roger at July 24, 2018 07:02 PM (UfkIY)
But that was an innovation designed to beat an edict, at least back in 1970 it was.
Again, the luddites today are defining carbon dioxide, upon which plants thrive, as a "pollutant". which shows how far up their asses their heads are stuffed. Still, once upon a time, tetraethyl lead and hydrocarbons in car exhaust were a real problem.
CA can't face real problems, like illegal aliens, so it has to fabricate ones, like tranzgenderz and CO2
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 07:07 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: clutch cargo at July 24, 2018 07:08 PM (RHEDC)
293 Has Trump ever said who it was that recommended Rosenstein and Wray to him? Was it Reince Priebus, or do we just not know?
Posted by: girldog at July 24, 2018 06:55 PM (g5YYQ)
That would be Charles Cooper for rosenstein. Cooper is a DC attorney, now Sessions' personal attorney for the mueller probe, who arranged most of the DOJ appointments, including noel francisco (2nd to rosenstein), the solicitor general, who came from Cooper's law practice. Conflicting stories on wray.
Posted by: Ever at July 24, 2018 07:08 PM (OLS0m)
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at July 24, 2018 07:08 PM (Astxw)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 24, 2018 07:08 PM (9dzlp)
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at July 24, 2018 07:08 PM (bML9A)
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 07:09 PM (DpEis)
Posted by: Your Generous Liberal Masters at July 24, 2018 07:09 PM (HgMAr)
Clifornia also requires it's own special blend of gasoline
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 24, 2018 07:09 PM (10vO4)
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 24, 2018 07:09 PM (eAMlh)
Ok, but couldn't CA simply re-enact the equivalent of the waiver via state legislation? Or would that be successfully challenged in the courts?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2018 07:10 PM (/qEW2)
A group called Restore Hetch Hetchy met with Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke Sunday to discuss draining the Hetch Hetchy Reservoir, located in Yosemite National Park. The reservoir supplies water to San Francisco.
It also supplies water for hydroelectric generation.
The Restore guy says that can be made up with solar power. Yeah, sure.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2018 07:10 PM (IqV8l)
THIS IS THE FUCKING HILL TO DIE ON.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 07:05 PM (RRchO)
To paraphrase Patton, I don't want to die on a hill. I want to make the other sonofabitch die on his hill.
Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2018 07:10 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 24, 2018 07:11 PM (eAMlh)
thrive, as a "pollutant". which shows how far up their asses their
heads are stuffed. Still, once upon a time, tetraethyl lead and
hydrocarbons in car exhaust were a real problem.
And we also exhale CO2, making the very act of breathing a source of pollution. You can't make this stuff up. The Onion should file a lawsuit against the Left for stealing their material and putting them out of business.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 07:11 PM (RRchO)
July 19, 2018
Tesla is finally making enough Model 3s - but an analyst says many customers are growing too impatient to wait any longer for them.
Cancellations for Model 3 orders have picked up in recent weeks. Refunds now outpace deposits for Tesla's new mass-market electric car, according to Needham And Co. analyst Rajvindra Gill. Tesla disputes that.
In an analyst note delivered to clients Thursday, Gill cited extended wait times for the car, the expiration of a $7,500 tax credit, and the fact that Tesla has not yet made the $35,000 base model of the car available for purchase yet.
About one in every four Model 3 orders is canceled, Gill said, double the rate from a year ago.
via WUWT
https://tinyurl.com/ycdea8j7
*Sad. Squeezes Elon's Musk gland*
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 24, 2018 07:11 PM (0ogQG)
Not exactly a shocker of a pick. Longest serving federal prosecutor in the country sitting right next door in Maryland.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 24, 2018 07:11 PM (/tuJf)
Every damn thing I buy has a tag that says,
"This product contains a substance known to the state of california to cause cancer."
I had to pay for that tag.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2018 07:11 PM (1g7ch)
But feeling tingly that this kind of stuff is happening.
To steal a meme I found annoying - faster, please.
And to amend it - more, and faster, please.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2018 07:11 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 24, 2018 07:01 PM (b3Pum)
Not to mention the lower gas mileage and damage to the engines...Ecotards, what can't they fuck up.
Posted by: Timon at July 24, 2018 07:11 PM (7Rpy3)
Between the state tax reforms, the census reforms, the ICE reforms and a whole bunch of other things, I think we're well on the way...
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 24, 2018 07:11 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: notsothoreau at July 24, 2018 07:12 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: clutch cargo at July 24, 2018 07:08 PM (RHEDC)
...............
Are they the same company that sold me Sea Monkeys?
Posted by: wth at July 24, 2018 07:12 PM (HgMAr)
Yeah, Redstate, um, get back to us when it does happen.
Much of what passes for news content today is like such-and-such "may" happen.
Can't they just try reporting things that actually have happened or are happening?
/grumpy
Posted by: Hands - I'm not clicking on it at July 24, 2018 07:12 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: RUSSIAN BOT at July 24, 2018 07:12 PM (A59VO)
~~~
And one for Spring/Summer and another for Fall/Winter.
FFS, there is only 2 seasons in SoCal: Summer and Rain (2 weeks in February).
Posted by: socalcon at July 24, 2018 07:12 PM (Roy2Z)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2018 07:14 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 24, 2018 07:08 PM (9dzlp)
..............
It's in the mail, along with a couple decent light bulbs.
Posted by: wth at July 24, 2018 07:14 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 24, 2018 07:14 PM (xInes)
"The State of California has determined this product will give you every horrible disease under the sun."
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at July 24, 2018 07:07 PM (nILVB)
They even put that on coffee, FFS
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2018 07:14 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: the Butcher at July 24, 2018 07:15 PM (DIosY)
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at July 24, 2018 07:15 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: The next addict at July 24, 2018 07:00 PM (IqV8l)
Dez the new rulz, BOFA.
Posted by: batterup at July 24, 2018 07:15 PM (U2JQS)
followed by IRS #2..,
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 07:15 PM (DpEis)
Stupid Californians.
Posted by: gebrauchshund at July 24, 2018 07:04 PM (fYnUU)
Water vapor! FTW.
That damned dihydrogen monoxide strikes again.
Posted by: DR.WTF? at July 24, 2018 07:15 PM (T71PA)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 24, 2018 07:15 PM (EZebt)
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at July 24, 2018 07:15 PM (wQtpC)
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at July 24, 2018 07:15 PM (dEQP3)
Yo' alex, long time no see...
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 07:16 PM (DpEis)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 24, 2018 07:08 PM (9dzlp)
If you live near a Buc-ee's you can.
Posted by: batterup at July 24, 2018 07:16 PM (U2JQS)
meanwhile, malibu is scheduling blackouts because insufficient power.
Posted by: Anachronda at July 24, 2018 07:17 PM (xGZ+b)
Posted by: eleven at July 24, 2018 07:17 PM (2OH9H)
Posted by: clutch cargo at July 24, 2018 07:08 PM (RHEDC)
Musk is just a modern day Charles Ponzi but legal like.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2018 07:17 PM (EoRCO)
Maybe so. But this is preferable than CA de facto inflicting their problems on the rest of the states. They can find other ways to deal with it. Maybe regulating emissions of factories to offset increased emissions of newer car models that don't comply with the waiver. Maybe mandating some sort of device be added to get the car to comply with the waiver.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2018 07:17 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Ace of Spades at 06:56 PM
Nikki Haley have a sppech to a graduation class telling them not to seek "owning the libs". Can't wait for the battered conservatives to elect her as POTUS to put other countries first as she surrenders to the invaders from other countries.
https://www.breitbart.com/ national-security/2018/07/24/haleys-mixed-message- high-schoolers-dont-own-libs-stand-up-mob/
Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 24, 2018 07:17 PM (ue+Wr)
It also supplies water for hydroelectric generation.
The Restore guy says that can be made up with solar power. Yeah, sure.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2018 07:10 PM (IqV8l)
A modest proposal:
Hetch Hetchy is town down AFTER:
1. Sites Dam is built.
2. Temperance Flat Dam is built.
3. Auburn Dam is built.
4. The "Wild and Scenic Rivers" of the North Coast are dammed and diverted. Yes ceertain dams can be done with fish ladders and enough flow left over for the salmon and other fishies, and without flooding out anyone's Indian Reservation.
5. Another dam down stream from the Tuolumne River is built to make up for the lost Hetch Hetchy Storage. The Poopenaut Valley is a good site.
6. Shasta Dam is raised, as it can be.
7. Former Upper and Lower River Campgrounds in Yosemite Valley are restored. What good is a national park if people cannot enjoy it?
8. A proportionate number of campsites are built in the restored Hetch Hetchy Valley.
The eco-fiends have a point--it IS a National Park. But if they want that precious pristine National Park restored, then let us build dams everywhere else.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 07:18 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: wonkenstein's monster at July 24, 2018 07:18 PM (Evws/)
I thought it was stupid then. Even moreso now.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 24, 2018 07:18 PM (jWe5r)
I think federalism is the alternative to national divorce. If one state wants to be loonies and other states want to be reasonable, why should the federal government step in except in in extreme cases?
But hey, if we want to first show the liberals that nationwide one-size-fits-all won't always push us leftward, I'm all for it. I just hope we remember in the end how the country was supposed to be run, and give it another try.
Posted by: JPS at July 24, 2018 07:19 PM (xCyVD)
Posted by: torabora at July 24, 2018 07:19 PM (bppfg)
IIRC, the state of Washington banned phosphates in regular dishwasher detergent, and the result was no phosphates in regular dishwasher detergent for all the rest of us.
Posted by: Furious George at July 24, 2018 07:20 PM (9vQJW)
We should however be able to win those skills back fairly easily because critical thinking is merely, IMO, a fancy way of saying you have a BS detector. Or more politely, that you are skeptical at being spoon fed information and try to corroborate it from other sources before you accept it. With all the over the top shrieking that the Democrat Left is dumping on America more and more people are hopefully becoming reacquainted with their BS meter.
I can only pray that it is so.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 07:20 PM (RRchO)
Posted by: ro-man at July 24, 2018 07:20 PM (RuIsu)
In fairness, smog has been a *real* problem in CA in the past, so more stringent emissions standards really WERE necessary here.
The smog problem was almost exclusively in L.A.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 24, 2018 07:20 PM (10vO4)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2018 07:17 PM (/qEW2)
Once upon a time, Ford and GM had auto plants here specifically for this market. But I am sure you know what happened to that. Factories? They have driven out most of them!
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 07:21 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 24, 2018 07:21 PM (Agn5J)
Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 07:11 PM (RRchO)
Wouldn't surprise me if they are knowingly aware of that. No bigger misanthropes than on the Left. They even think pets generate too much CO2, and they fear cow farts.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2018 07:21 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 24, 2018 07:21 PM (NWiLs)
So you can make your weed more powerful but not your car.
Posted by: DaveA at July 24, 2018 07:22 PM (FhXTo)
Exhibit A: Christina Hendricks' breasts.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 24, 2018 07:22 PM (Agn5J)
In fairness, smog has been a *real* problem in CA in the past, so more stringent emissions standards really WERE necessary here.
The smog problem was almost exclusively in L.A.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 24, 2018 07:20 PM (10vO4)
I thought that was a smug problem?
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2018 07:22 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 24, 2018 07:23 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Jeanne del norte at July 24, 2018 07:23 PM (efMXe)
Posted by: Jeanne del norte at July 24, 2018 07:23 PM (efMXe)
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 07:23 PM (DpEis)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at July 24, 2018 07:24 PM (F6tBH)
YOU get an EV
and YOU get an EV
and YOU get an EV
and...
Posted by: Orca Winmills at July 24, 2018 07:24 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:24 PM (2sCft)
If and when these people get power back they're going to grind us into little pieces in true Red Guard style and pretend they're fighting against the charge on Little Round Top.
(If not for that, I could engage in a little emotional detachment, and say that I can appreciate a difference between real air quality measurements and their lumping in the very act of combustion as a form of air pollution, or the ZEV tax credit, which when you get right down to it is a way for a private company in California to collect taxes on other non-California companies' factories; a sort of backdoor internal tariff-in-all-but-name against the products of other states, collected in a form of tax farming that paints a thin libertarian-veneer over Roman Empire practices.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 24, 2018 07:24 PM (87ijN)
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 24, 2018 07:23 PM (WEBkv)
That's a tall order. Maybe by Trump's 3rd term.
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2018 07:24 PM (Izzlo)
In fairness, smog has been a *real* problem in CA in the past, so more stringent emissions standards really WERE necessary here.
The smog problem was almost exclusively in L.A.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 24, 2018 07:20 PM (10vO4)
Eh, I grew up in San Jose and saw the "Janet Gray Haze" (a pun referring to the then Mayor) there, and frequent smog alert days too. Back then, a smog alert really WAS a serious situation; the "spare the air" ones they have now are the result of much tighter standards and are really mild.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 07:25 PM (ujg0T)
Assholes.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2018 07:25 PM (EoRCO)
Is that something?
Posted by: Jeanne del norte at July 24, 2018 07:23 PM (efMXe)
++++
Yes, it is something. Just not sure what.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:25 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: torabora at July 24, 2018 07:25 PM (bppfg)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 24, 2018 07:25 PM (NWiLs)
>>I think federalism is the alternative to national divorce. If one state wants to be loonies and other states want to be reasonable, why should the federal government step in except in in extreme cases?
The problem with California's ideas is that they don't stay in California. See illegal immigrants.
Of course I wouldn't be opposed to building a wall around California.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 24, 2018 07:25 PM (/tuJf)
The air in LA did get better.
Yes it did. But when I was a kid "healing" the Santa Monica Bay was the other big eco project. Fifty years later they still advise you not to eat fish caught in the bay.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 24, 2018 07:25 PM (10vO4)
This is one thing that was in the constitution and if some farmer can be prevented from growing corn to feed his family because it impacts the corn market, then CA can be prevented from adding burdens to the auto market.
I only hope it becomes a commerce clause battle, and the court gets a chance to toss out CA mandates and at the same time NARROW the application of the commerce clause. That would be big.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at July 24, 2018 07:25 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: wonkenstein's monster at July 24, 2018 07:26 PM (Evws/)
Also, AP is a giant fraud and hopefully his website will go the way of Newsweek
Posted by: Dime 333 at July 24, 2018 07:26 PM (aR6C/)
California can't FORCE Automakers to build to their standards ... anymore than they can force Gunmakers to build to their standards.
Automakers choosing to make California the de facto standard is on the Automakers.
You go down this road ... and the Federal Standard will become The Only Standard Allowed.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 24, 2018 07:26 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 07:26 PM (DpEis)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 24, 2018 07:27 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: ALH at July 24, 2018 07:27 PM (8kkL4)
That and making sure your tires are filled adequately.
/s just in case it has to be said.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 24, 2018 07:27 PM (9zNTw)
Posted by: PRC acme mask company at July 24, 2018 07:27 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 24, 2018 07:25 PM (10vO4)
Not even the three-eyed ones?
Posted by: wth at July 24, 2018 07:28 PM (HgMAr)
That's what I do with my ceiling fan in the winter.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at July 24, 2018 07:28 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: torabora at July 24, 2018 07:25 PM (bppfg)
It would serve them right.
I just thought my Modest Proposal, which actually would generate more hydropower in the bargain, was better. They want a pristine National Park? Then let us build dams everywhere else that is not one.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 07:28 PM (ujg0T)
https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/07/24/trumps-epa-outpaces-obama-in-cleaning-up-hazardous-sites/
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at July 24, 2018 07:29 PM (dEQP3)
--------
I thought that said "Cash for Catholics" at first
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2018 07:29 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: Braenyard at July 24, 2018 07:30 PM (s9DTK)
That's because this is their religion. And unlike mine, they enforce their religion with government which ultimately means with force.
Which makes the Left's hatred of organized religion that much more hypocritical and loathsome.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 07:30 PM (RRchO)
Nobody thinks it's cute anymore.
Posted by: eleven at July 24, 2018 07:17 PM (2OH9H)
++++
Remember when people just assumed California was on the cutting edge of, well, just about everything. Their policies were the inevitable wave of the future. Now they seem old and busted.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:30 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 24, 2018 07:30 PM (uoqdk)
https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/07/24/trumps-epa-outpaces-obama-in-cleaning-up-hazardous-sites/
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at July 24, 2018 07:29 PM (dEQP3)
Not to mention that unlike Obamam's EPA, Trump's hasn't caused any environmental hazards
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2018 07:30 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: Smashing the Golden Calf at July 24, 2018 07:30 PM (WPxnj)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 24, 2018 07:31 PM (uoqdk)
I hope the San Andreas Fault farts loud enough to break off that disgusting turd of a state and float it all the way to North Korea
Posted by: Dime 333 at July 24, 2018 07:31 PM (aR6C/)
Posted by: Chris M at July 24, 2018 07:31 PM (6XZdO)
Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 07:30 PM (RRchO)
Contrary to what people say ... ain't nobody that likes good tough competition.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 24, 2018 07:31 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 07:23 PM (DpEis)
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Back in about 2008, I owned a business in GA. I received a stern letter from the state of Cali about how any electronics (CRT Monitors, computers, etc.) must be taken to specialized recycling centers....in GA.....that charged a shitload of money for effectively taking it to a landfill.
I had actually planned to do that, but those Eco Nazis pissed me off so much that I put all that on the curb next to trash cans instead. Terrorize your own citizens, Comrades. They choose to live there. Get the phuch out of my GA face with that crap.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 24, 2018 07:32 PM (b3Pum)
I was an early MAGA adopter but he is exceeding expectations bigly.
Posted by: x at July 24, 2018 07:32 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around.
Simple change of priorities.
When they finish the job, shut it down.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 24, 2018 07:32 PM (s9DTK)
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 07:32 PM (DpEis)
Posted by: torabora at July 24, 2018 07:25 PM (bppfg)
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Can't San Francisco do something with all that human fecal matter laying about everywhere and use that to generate methane power??
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:32 PM (2sCft)
San Andreas', that's who.
*takes a bow*
Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 07:32 PM (RRchO)
Hawiian judge, Hawaiian judge
He's got a great big ol' grudge
Hawaiin judge, Hawaiam judge
He's always wrong, but he won't budge
Hawain judge, Hawaain judge!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 24, 2018 07:33 PM (uoqdk)
Yay! Go, Donald, go! Kick California in the balls!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 24, 2018 07:33 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2018 07:33 PM (IqV8l)
Lessee, what rhymes with Judge? Nudge, grudge, fudge, kludge. Yea we can work with that.
Posted by: freaked at July 24, 2018 07:33 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:30 PM (2sCft)
Once upon a time, CA really WAS, in terms of invention and innovation. :-(
But now? It is the cutting edge of budding race riots, cultural marxism, rampant divorce and family breakdown, and teh tranzgenderz.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 07:34 PM (ujg0T)
He's got a great big ol' grudge
Hawaiin judge, Hawaiam judge
He's always wrong, but he won't budge
Hawain judge, Hawaain judge!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 24, 2018 07:33 PM (uoqdk)
Spiderman theme?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 24, 2018 07:34 PM (9zNTw)
That's the spoils of "I won". I understood that to be the new standard in The Year of Obama.
So, cue the orders. Trump won. No point of winning if you can't redirect the country. And Trump earned it.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 24, 2018 07:34 PM (6eEQ+)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 24, 2018 07:34 PM (uoqdk)
About Musk... I think he got lucky with Paypal, and that gave him enough money to power through a whole lot of bad decisions he made at SpaceX and make it successful anyway.
As I emailed to a friend last night... Musk has a Ford Trimotor where all the rest of the world has Sopwith Camels. He stands on the threshold of being able to build a DC-3 of launch vehicles.
And he's going to build his BFR instead, which I think is equivalent to the Spruce Goose.
Howard Hughes could make idiot decisions like that and power through because his Dad invented the rotary drill bit when it would be, for anyone else, proof that they were an idiot.
Hughes had some genius but he didn't always pay attention to it.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 24, 2018 07:35 PM (87ijN)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 24, 2018 07:35 PM (uoqdk)
San Andreas', that's who.
*takes a bow*
Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 07:32 PM (RRchO)
California... tumbles into the sea...
https://youtu.be/Sq8OU-7JDFA
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2018 07:35 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 24, 2018 07:36 PM (HiLJ1)
Posted by: Elon Musk at July 24, 2018 07:36 PM (wjHbC)
You go down this road ... and the Federal Standard will become The Only Standard Allowed.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 24, 2018 07:26 PM (fiGNd)
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Well if it'll make you feel better, who knows if this will really make a difference? The CA state legislature may enact the equivalent of the waiver. Someone may file suit saying it differs from the federal standard. The 9th circuit will dismiss the suit and SCOTUS will decline to hear any appeal.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2018 07:36 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 24, 2018 07:34 PM (9zNTw)
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Hawaiian Judge, Hawaiian Judge
Does whatever
a Supreme Court Justice does...
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at July 24, 2018 07:36 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: torabora at July 24, 2018 07:25 PM (bppfg)
During the drought the entire state had to cut back on water usage and impose rationing, although the only places that really had a problem were SF and LA. SD gets its water from the Colorado River (and a new desalination plant), whereas the northernmost parts of the state get plenty of rain.
So basically that asshole Moonbeam imposed draconian policies on the whole state to benefit the liberals in SF and LA who were/are too stupid to make provision for catching sufficient rainwater. And, of course, Moonbeam himself has so much to answer for, since his first official act when he became governor in 1975 was to scupper a comprehensive water infrastructure plan that was already approved and funded.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 24, 2018 07:37 PM (YqDXo)
Pretty much, yeah.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 24, 2018 07:34 PM (uoqdk)
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Sadly, I still smile at the thought of Homer Simpson's rendition of Spiderpig in the Simpsons Movie..... Sad!
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:37 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Chris M at July 24, 2018 07:37 PM (6XZdO)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 24, 2018 07:36 PM (HiLJ1)
I love that smell ...
Posted by: Winnie Mandela at July 24, 2018 07:37 PM (fiGNd)
So... California is a failed state, then??? Like oh, say, Zimbabwe,
Venezuela, Britain, etc... Only they have a little more money...
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 07:32 PM (DpEis)
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... and Germany.There is nothing on this Big Blue Marble more smug than a smug German. When the Germans circular-filed their coal and nuclear power plants, the Krauts rubbed it in our face. Then the bill came due, and power demand exceeded supply, by a huge margin. Back to future? Back to fossil fuel and back to the Russians.
Posted by: mrp at July 24, 2018 07:37 PM (Pqytn)
Gas blends? What exactly are those? We all know about the 10% ethanol, but what does California require that's different? I thought they got rid of MTBE?
Posted by: Chris M at July 24, 2018 07:31 PM (6XZdO)
California has a summer and a winter blend. The summer blend retards evaporation and is very expensive and difficult to produce. I don't know what the winter blend does
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 24, 2018 07:38 PM (10vO4)
Balls are gone. Moose out front shoulda told ya. We suggest the vajajay.
Posted by: Officer Russ Lasky at July 24, 2018 07:39 PM (6eEQ+)
Lessee, what rhymes with Judge? Nudge, grudge, fudge, kludge. Yea we can work with that.
Posted by: freaked at July 24, 2018 07:33 PM (UdKB7)
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Gimme a C! A bouncy C!
Posted by: Leonard Cohen at July 24, 2018 07:39 PM (vDqXW)
Howard Hughes could make idiot decisions like that and power through because his Dad invented the rotary drill bit when it would be, for anyone else, proof that they were an idiot.
Hughes had some genius but he didn't always pay attention to it.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 24, 2018 07:35 PM (87ijN)
Had The Battle Of The Atlantic not been decisively won years earlier, the "Hercules" might have been genius.
Batshit crazy, but the more I read about him, the more I admire him for just doing whatever the fuck he wanted to do, and admire him like his accountant Noah Dietrich did.
Think of Donald Trump as a Howard Hughes *without* the hypochondria and the obsessive-compulsive disorder.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 07:39 PM (ujg0T)
President Trump who remembers he's president is best President Trump.
Yeah, Mr President, YOU have the power to ram your Executive penis into all these leftist swamp rats.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 24, 2018 07:39 PM (uoqdk)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 24, 2018 07:25 PM (NWiLs)
"Known to the state of California"
The state that doesn't know how to keep out wetbacks, useless welfare recipients, drop a net on lunatics, fight public health threats such as AIDS and hepatitis A, keep the streets free of shit, hold down gangs, run a school system worth a damn, or keep a lid on perverts, much less how to manage its money.
But toxicology, THAT they know all about.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 24, 2018 07:39 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Chris M at July 24, 2018 07:31 PM (6XZdO)
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It's when I eat Mexican Food and Italian Food both within a twelve hour period.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:40 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: t-bird at July 24, 2018 07:40 PM (3KcdH)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic
________
Basically all of America had to go through automotive hell because Los Angeles had smog issues.
Cleaner burning, more efficient automobiles were a natural technological evolution.
But we had to have all sorts of rube goldberg contraptions that did very little until computer technology came round to placate people in Los Angeles
Posted by: Jolly Roger at July 24, 2018 07:40 PM (UfkIY)
Didn't work but some crook most likely made a bundle off of businesses being forced to buy them. They all ended up in the garbage bin, don't see them around anymore.
Yea, California can go to hell in a hand basket.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2018 07:40 PM (EoRCO)
Most after market mods to make your car more efficient, are illegal here.
Companies have to pay Calif to get every model of their mod (say, Cat Back Exhaust system) tested on every model of car to be able to sell it here.
What is really funny... is that the parts are often MADE in California... but can't be sold nor used here.
Posted by: Don Q at July 24, 2018 07:41 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 06:59 PM (ujg0T)
But shit on the sidewalks is "organic," so not a pollutant, per the liberals. Only carbon dioxide is a pollutant.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 24, 2018 07:41 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2018 07:36 PM (/qEW2)
Look ... on one hand - I get it. California taking a barbed-wire wrapped pineapple up the ass is ALWAYS a good thing.
ALWAYS. I really get it.
But it seems to me, if we're going with the notion of "Federal Standards" - which I fucking hate ...
... well, shit, that's it. I fucking hate them. The "Federal Standard" on Education sucks - and I applaud any State that deviates. Same for - well - everything.
So ... Yay ... California got fucked on Trump's watch. But you watch.
This will turn out to be "Stare Decisis" - Federal Standards Trump States (pun intended) - and we'll get fucked last.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 24, 2018 07:42 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 07:42 PM (pHfeF)
Companies have to pay Calif to get every model of their mod (say,
Cat Back Exhaust system) tested on every model of car to be able to sell
it here.
And there is the racket that makes it immortal.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 24, 2018 07:43 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 24, 2018 07:43 PM (JFO2v)
Same thing with textbooks. California is the largest market, so when the idiots here demand that textbooks glorify the achievements of various perverts, the ENTIRE COUNTRY gets stuck with endorsing perversion also.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 24, 2018 07:43 PM (YqDXo)
Yea, California can go to hell in a hand basket.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2018 07:40 PM (EoRC
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And I love my new five gallon gas can that has that Rube Goldberg designed pour spout that never works and causes you to spill a lot of gas all over the ground under whatever you are trying to fill up.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:43 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 24, 2018 07:37 PM (YqDXo)
Just wait until the new 55 Gallons of water a day rule comes into effect!
Posted by: Don Q at July 24, 2018 07:43 PM (NgKpN)
Trump is a crypto-Prog who is going to turn over the Presidency to Hillary.
Anyday now...
Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 24, 2018 07:44 PM (be3F7)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 24, 2018 07:44 PM (87ijN)
Attention all planets of the Solar Federation
We have assumed control
We have assumed control
We have assumed control
Posted by: Priest of Syrinx at July 24, 2018 07:44 PM (ARUHl)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 24, 2018 07:44 PM (HiLJ1)
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 07:42 PM (pHfeF)
I think there are 65 regional blends of petrol. Total bullshit!
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 24, 2018 07:44 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2018 07:45 PM (IqV8l)
It makes your exhaust smell link wintergreen. In the fall they use a different mix, "Pumpkin Spice".
Posted by: freaked at July 24, 2018 07:45 PM (UdKB7)
And I love my new five gallon gas can that has that Rube Goldberg
designed pour spout that never works and causes you to spill a lot of
gas all over the ground under whatever you are trying to fill up.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:43 PM (2sCft)
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And the "child-proof" cap.
Posted by: mrp at July 24, 2018 07:45 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: Priest of Syrinx at July 24, 2018 07:46 PM (ARUHl)
Attention all planets of the Solar Federation
We have assumed control
We have assumed control
We have assumed control
Posted by: Priest of Syrinx at July 24, 2018 07:44 PM (ARUHl)
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Ah, nice Rush "2112" reference. At least it drove Home Simpson singing the Spiderpig theme out of my head.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:46 PM (2sCft)
I'm told you can buy an aftermarket spout that works. They're sold as spouts for water cans.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 24, 2018 07:46 PM (HiLJ1)
Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 24, 2018 07:47 PM (be3F7)
Politicians are often given INTERIM Clearances... ie short term non permanent ones.
If the Prezzy needed one of these idiots, they could grant them an Interim...
Posted by: Don Q at July 24, 2018 07:47 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: AltonJackson at July 24, 2018 07:48 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 24, 2018 07:48 PM (uoqdk)
Had The Battle Of The Atlantic not been decisively won years earlier, the "Hercules" might have been genius.
Batshit crazy, but the more I read about him, the more I admire him for just doing whatever the fuck he wanted to do, and admire him like his accountant Noah Dietrich did.
Yah, but when you think about it, it basically boils down to he was an aircraft designer who managed to not really do anything productive during the entirety of WW2. And then still get praised as a genius.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 24, 2018 07:48 PM (87ijN)
And I love my new five gallon gas can that has that Rube Goldberg
designed pour spout that never works and causes you to spill a lot of
gas all over the ground under whatever you are trying to fill up.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:43 PM (2sCft)
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And the "child-proof" cap.
Posted by: mrp at July 24, 2018 07:45 PM (Pqytn)
Which my 89 year old Mom can't open...
/spit
Posted by: Don Q at July 24, 2018 07:48 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Neverstopfishing at July 24, 2018 07:48 PM (H+FcZ)
just think of all the emissions that saves!
Posted by: Anachronda at July 24, 2018 07:48 PM (NmR1a)
If you don't want aids, don't get aids.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 24, 2018 07:48 PM (uoqdk)
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Like most STD's, that seems like a reasonable solution.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:48 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Mr Spock at July 24, 2018 07:49 PM (CBkgK)
It's the suede denim secret police
And they've come for your uncool niece
California!!!
Uber Alles!!!
California!!!
Oh Oh California!!
Posted by: Jello Biafra at July 24, 2018 07:49 PM (ARUHl)
Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 24, 2018 07:49 PM (be3F7)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 24, 2018 07:43 PM (YqDXo)
But it does not HAVE to be ... and it's a damn shame that it is.
Count Electoral Votes - Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, and Kentucky collectively provide an equivalent market. No reason those states ... All Red the last go 'round ... can't get our shit together collectively and demand a "Non-California Compliant" option.
Of course - it would be easier to do that if our respective State Governments had more control of our State Education Systems.
And it would really help if Kentucky could read - that would drive up the demand for textbooks there.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 24, 2018 07:49 PM (fiGNd)
Nassim Taleb's tyranny of the minority at work here.
Posted by: squeakywheel at July 24, 2018 07:50 PM (45Ydj)
Imagine if some people were sticking the hands into woodchipper.
Would we gather all the Hollywood celerys and singers to have telethons and sing songs to raise money and "awareness" to help these poor people who just can't help but stick their hands in woodchippers?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 24, 2018 07:50 PM (uoqdk)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2018 07:40 PM (EoRC
California is WAY ahead of you on that one.
I just wish everyone who moved here from the Northeast and upper Midwest would go the hell back where they came from.
My concern now: Texas looks like it's starting to go the same route as California. Yeah, I know, Texans think it can't happen there. I hope they're right.
But I doubt it.
Forty years ago California was like Texas is now, conservative, prosperous, and sensible. But the tumor started in SF/Berkeley, and then spread. Just as the tumor has now taken root in Austin.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 24, 2018 07:51 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Jello Biafra at July 24, 2018 07:49 PM (ARUHl)
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My friend was in pretty tight with Jello Biafra back in the day. No lie. He has some pretty interesting stories.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:51 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 24, 2018 07:44 PM (87ijN)
Dude ... it's almost 7:00 PM your time. If you're not drawing time and a half - go home. Have a beer. Eat a crawfish.
You earned it.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 24, 2018 07:51 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 24, 2018 07:48 PM (87ijN)
IIRC, he had a hand in designing the Constellation, although that was largely Kelly Johnson's brainchild. Arguably the best transport plane of the piston-engine era.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 07:51 PM (ujg0T)
Let's say this time it's because...um federalisticism in the good and plenty clause of the 41st amendment and also a mighty precidentalisms!
#Resist!!!!
Posted by: Bill Kuckin' Kristol, Ben Squeak Shapiro & the Washington Consensus at July 24, 2018 07:51 PM (O7EKu)
Posted by: Anachronda at July 24, 2018 07:51 PM (NmR1a)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2018 07:51 PM (IqV8l)
I don't see why either would be expensive. That would be a simple thing to change.
Posted by: Chris M at July 24, 2018 07:52 PM (6XZdO)
Question: How many times are mcconnell and ryan gonna sternly declare Russia meddled in the election?
Answer: As many times as their asked by the Fake News.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 24, 2018 07:53 PM (uoqdk)
Posted by: Ayds at July 24, 2018 07:53 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Jello Biafra at July 24, 2018 07:49 PM (ARUHl)
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My friend was in pretty tight with Jello Biafra back in the day. No lie. He has some pretty interesting stories.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:51 PM (2sCft)
Isn't he a complete leftist asshole? I know punk rock is full of them, but he's full blown Noam Chumpsky meets Mikey Moore asshole.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 07:53 PM (ujg0T)
But they're not half of the damned country. Their market is not THAT friggin' big, compared to the rest of pie.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 24, 2018 07:53 PM (fiGNd)
Nassim Taleb's tyranny of the minority at work here.
.....
The minority plus 100 jillion screaming illegal Mexicans.
Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 24, 2018 07:53 PM (be3F7)
Reprisals are better.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 24, 2018 07:54 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2018 07:45 PM (IqV8l)
Can I get together with Prince, The Homeless Guy Under the Overpass, and launch a bid to "smash" Elton John?
Another breach loader that needs to go away already.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2018 07:54 PM (EoRCO)
I'm told you can buy an aftermarket spout that works. They're sold as spouts for water cans.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 24, 2018 07:46 PM (HiLJ1)
I heard a story, had to be a story and not actual fact, that you can buy aftermarket air vents and drill a hole in the can and have it pour just like Grandad's can did!
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 24, 2018 07:54 PM (di1hb)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 24, 2018 07:55 PM (smCLJ)
Nassim Taleb's tyranny of the minority at work here.
.....
The minority plus 100 jillion screaming illegal Mexicans.
Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 24, 2018 07:53 PM (be3F7)
The CA GOP may save itself by exploiting every rift between the Pinks and Greens on one side, and the Browns on the other. That lefty coalition really is Dogs and Mailmen.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 07:55 PM (ujg0T)
Texas did, and Green Chucky Small Balls made a lot of hay about that when Texas' board of education was proposing standards on that.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 24, 2018 07:55 PM (N1ZXu)
Posted by: pookysgirl at July 24, 2018 07:56 PM (XKZwp)
Reprisals are better.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 24, 2018 07:54 PM (fA1SL)
We should become YouTube Sensations!
"Oddly Satisfying Reprisals"
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 24, 2018 07:56 PM (di1hb)
Once cars with carburetors stopped being built, the smog/air quality issue was fixed. It just took a few decades for those cars to stop being used and off the road.
All of these newer regulations are just getting blood out of a stone. Eventually electric cars will tale over anyway in the coming decades.
And then the eco terrorists will go after "energy hog" electric cars.
Posted by: Jolly Roger at July 24, 2018 07:56 PM (UfkIY)
But they're not half of the damned country. Their market is not THAT friggin' big, compared to the rest of pie.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 24, 2018 07:53 PM (fiGNd)
No, of course not. But building different cars for different markets loses economy of scale advantages. It's easier just to accommodate the gnarliest place, because then you can sell your cars / textbooks everywhere without a second thought.
That is, until and unless the other markets get pissed off at having California dictate policy to them.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 24, 2018 07:56 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at July 24, 2018 07:53 PM (ujg0T)
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Yes, as far as I know, Mr Biafra is a stark raving mad leftist. I believe he's big on the Green Party. I never said my friend wasn't also a crazed, but somewhat mellowed leftist. He and I agree on a few things, but disagree on most things. But we both were into punk at the same time in our lives.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:57 PM (2sCft)
Had The Battle Of The Atlantic not been decisively won years earlier, the "Hercules" might have been genius.
Batshit crazy, but the more I read about him, the more I admire him for just doing whatever the fuck he wanted to do, and admire him like his accountant Noah Dietrich did.
Yah, but when you think about it, it basically boils down to he was an aircraft designer who managed to not really do anything productive during the entirety of WW2. And then still get praised as a genius.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 24, 2018 07:48 PM (87ijN)
The XF-11 is arguably the best looking plane of the WWII era, if nothing else
Posted by: josephistan at July 24, 2018 07:57 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 24, 2018 07:58 PM (ARUHl)
How was the performance and cost of the stain affected by having to meet that standard? Would you say it was significant?
Posted by: freaked at July 24, 2018 07:58 PM (UdKB7)
"Contains substances known by the State of California to cause cancer."
Posted by: Robert at July 24, 2018 07:59 PM (Zogyx)
But they're not half of the damned country. Their market is not THAT friggin' big, compared to the rest of pie.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 24, 2018 07:53 PM (fiGNd)
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Somebody else mentioned this earlier. There was once a time when the nuttiness was self contained because those that sold to Cali actually manufactured in Cali for that states needs.
Then Cali chased out Mfrs. with taxes and regulations. It is a big enough market that I can easily see mass producers making their products to Cali standards for the entire Country in order to save manufacturing costs.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 24, 2018 07:59 PM (b3Pum)
Posted by: pookysgirl at July 24, 2018 07:56 PM (XKZwp)
I believe you 100% ... and that shit is not because of one county in California.
That is because of the "I Must Obey" impulse in people. They see a "standard" - and they will never, ever think - "Do I Care" ?
The NFPA writes the "National Electric Code". I get into this all the time with people.
The "National Electric Code" is not law. Every State has the option to make it law. Indiana chooses to - with exceptions.
But pounding the notion that - just because somebody chose to write rules down in a book doesn't make it law - is pretty much a losing battle.
Posted by: ScoggDog at July 24, 2018 07:59 PM (fiGNd)
Which is why the GOP has pretty much relegated Trump to the EO and rules route.
The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 24, 2018 08:00 PM (FquqN)
Unfortunately things changed. The mission was never needed. And then one of the Rainbows crashed.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 24, 2018 08:00 PM (smCLJ)
Posted by: Axeman at July 24, 2018 08:00 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 24, 2018 08:00 PM (be3F7)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 24, 2018 07:51 PM (YqDXo)
Yup...the locusts get hungry and move to greener pastures, which of course they ruin.
Austin is a harbinger.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2018 08:00 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 24, 2018 08:00 PM (9zNTw)
I'm sure it's something, but all I can think of is
-a giant horde of foreign nationals with no loyalty to the rest of us, plus
-The Hollywood economy which has been revealed as front for a rape and child exploitation
-Sillicon valley has become a giantbdata harvesting operation for the deep state
- All topped off with San Francisco's legendary 20+ lbs bags of human excrement.
Can Trump force them into Independence?
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at July 24, 2018 08:01 PM (O7EKu)
Posted by: Top Men at July 24, 2018 08:02 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 24, 2018 07:58 PM (ARUHl)
+++
Sounds similar to my friend's experiences with Biafra. I was never into drugs as a punk. I was a "clean" punk and thought that drug use was just one more horrible thing about mainstream rock that I rejected. I was a smug little asshole at the time, a real moron. Now I've come full circle and am proud to be a Moron.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 08:03 PM (2sCft)
Sally, if your fleet has any Ford 7.3L diesels or Dodge with 5.9L Cummins, I will come out there from Michigan and buy every one of them.
Posted by: clutch at July 24, 2018 08:04 PM (kiSdp)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 24, 2018 08:04 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 24, 2018 07:11 PM (/tuJf)
Except, if your goal is to drain the swamp, why would sessions via cooper choose rosenstein, obama-bush swamp guy? Cooper can be blamed for many of the problems in DOJ, including henry kerner (mccain former staffer), head of the Office of Special Counsel, who JW outted as urging lois lerner go after the tea-party.
Posted by: Ever at July 24, 2018 08:04 PM (OLS0m)
Yes, as far as I know, Mr Biafra is a stark raving mad leftist. I believe he's big on the Green Party. I never said my friend wasn't also a crazed, but somewhat mellowed leftist. He and I agree on a few things, but disagree on most things. But we both were into punk at the same time in our lives.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:57 PM (2sCft)
"California Uber Alles" was a good song. Intentionally or not, it portrayed the hippie/vegetarian/environmentalist crowd as wannabe Nazis. I'm not aware of other punk songs quite like it.
(I wasn't into punk that much, so it's entirely possible there are other songs I'm not familiar with.)
Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2018 08:06 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Roman Moronie at July 24, 2018 08:06 PM (vDqXW)
Of course they let thier brown-skinned slave underclass keep their leafblowers. Because raking leaves costs more than Pelosi's voters want to pay for yard upkeep.
Posted by: 13times at July 24, 2018 08:08 PM (K3B2k)
by Tony Bennett
I left my shit
in San Francisco.
Down on the ground
it smells like...shit.
It stinks where little cable cars
climb halfway to the stars.
The morning stench may fill the air,
A smell so rare.
I run like hell
from San Francisco.
Run from the blue and windy sea.
Should I come home to you, San Francisco?
Your stinky turds and rancid pee?
Posted by: zombie at July 24, 2018 08:09 PM (c+2jX)
Yes, as far as I know, Mr Biafra is a stark raving mad leftist. I believe he's big on the Green Party. I never said my friend wasn't also a crazed, but somewhat mellowed leftist. He and I agree on a few things, but disagree on most things. But we both were into punk at the same time in our lives.
Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 24, 2018 07:57 PM (2sCft)
"California Uber Alles" was a good song. Intentionally or not, it portrayed the hippie/vegetarian/environmentalist crowd as wannabe Nazis. I'm not aware of other punk songs quite like it.
(I wasn't into punk that much, so it's entirely possible there are other songs I'm not familiar with.)
Posted by: rickl at
But there's good news: Johnny Rotten is a major Trump fan and Brexit supporter! :
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ john-lydon-trump-brexit-nigel-farage-support-sex-pistols-singer-good-morning-britain-a7652981.html
Calls him "a political Sex Pistol."
Posted by: zombie at July 24, 2018 08:12 PM (c+2jX)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at July 24, 2018 08:12 PM (3DZIZ)
I'm sure it's something, but all I can think of is
-a giant horde of foreign nationals with no loyalty to the rest of us, plus
-The Hollywood economy which has been revealed as front for a rape and child exploitation
-Sillicon valley has become a giantbdata harvesting operation for the deep state
- All topped off with San Francisco's legendary 20+ lbs bags of human excrement.
Can Trump force them into Independence?
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at July 24, 2018 08:01 PM (O7EKu)
Think, Grasshopper, think. California is now the social equivalent of Love Canal.
Do you really want to cause earnest asshole liberals to scatter far and wide across the nation?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at July 24, 2018 08:14 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 24, 2018 07:49 PM (be3F7)
Whatever. I'm using the sprayer attachment on my kitchen sink.
Posted by: Sheryl Crow at July 24, 2018 08:15 PM (sXefu)
If you call 1946 WW2.
Compare with the Mosquito.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 24, 2018 08:16 PM (87ijN)
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SEGREGATION
But not all is rosy in this new society. Some of the very worst customs already banned from our existing society have re-emerged at Occupy Oakland. One of the ugliest of these is segregation.
The encampment has already fractured into a series of micro-neighborhoods, just like a real city. But at Occupy Oakland, where you are permitted to live is determined by your gender and/or racial or sexual identity. Here, for example, is a roped-off "gated community" reserved exclusively for female, gay and transgender residents.
Elsewhere are tents with a "minorities only" rule.
And lest you might be so naive to think that these rules would only ever apply to the Occupy camp, and not to the city at large should the Occupiers ever take over, be aware that one of the Occupation's many demands is to "Stop White Gentrification in Oakland" -- which would mean the establishment of new laws preventing white people from moving into certain neighborhoods.
Yes, my friends, the Occupy movement has made segregation trendy again!
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Click to see the photos: http://zombietime.com/occupy_oakland_10-22-2011/
Posted by: zombie at July 24, 2018 08:19 PM (c+2jX)
Yeah, Ca cannot force automakers to comply with their regs, but the Detroit automakers sell a ton of trucks there, so pour your DEF into the tank.
Posted by: clutch at July 24, 2018 08:20 PM (kiSdp)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 24, 2018 08:20 PM (87ijN)
Posted by: zombie at July 24, 2018 08:20 PM (c+2jX)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 24, 2018 07:14 PM (xInes)
"Oxygenated" means "partially pre-burnt", meaning you get fewer miles per gallon, because less energy content in the fuel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 24, 2018 08:31 PM (4FKb7)
Posted by: Joe at July 24, 2018 09:05 PM (B9cpP)
Posted by: RobInKaty at July 24, 2018 09:28 PM (hQb6B)
Posted by: RobInKaty at July 24, 2018 09:28 PM (hQb6B)
ULINE is great. We buy some of their cardboard shipping boxes at work. They have literally a hundred different sizes of boxes for any application imaginable. And that doesn't even scratch the surface of what is available from their catalog.
Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2018 09:59 PM (sdi6R)
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