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"Fusion Ken" Dilanian on Yanking Clapper, Brennan et al's Security Clearances: But They Need These Clearances In Case Trump Calls Up Them to Advise Him

As John Ekdahl says: wut



So the reason we permit these guys to keep their security clearances is actually twofold:

1. To keep them legal to accept classified information, in case the president needs to call them out of retirement to advise him on a national security matter.

With Comey and McCabe proven leakers, with Brennan looking like he arranged the Comey briefing just to leak it, and calling Trump a traitor every week, etc., I would say the likelihood that Trump will call up on these Genius Experts' Expert Genius to be about the likelihood that Kate Upton will pay me thirty million dollars to sit on my face.

2. Frankly, as way to pay them continuing non-pecuniary benefits in their retirement, because anyone with a security clearance will be paid more money than those without one in the fields where such a thing is valuable, e.g., defense industries, information security, etc.

I don't see why Trump would feel obliged to put money into their pockets by extending to them a benefit he is not required to extend to them.

So there are two reasons to keep these people cleared for classified reason -- one which could maybe, allegedly benefit the country, but which will never happen, due to the fact that these people belong to the Deep State which has been trying to get Trump blocked from taking office and now that he is president, removed from it.

The second is just a nice thing you do for your friends, to keep paying them off for services rendered, but they are not Trump's friends and the services they have rendered are a conspiracy to enact a coup against the duly elected president of the United States.

On the other hand, there is the risk of permitting them to retain their security clearances.

Given that there is absolutely no benefit to the country -- none at all, zero -- of letting them keep their clearances, the downsides risks stand all alone, with no upside potential to offset them.

What risks are being run? Well, these:

Clapper and Brennan are now being paid by media corporations whose mission it is to take down the duly-elected president of the United States. The fact that they have security clearances means that illegal leakers can leak classified information to them and avoid the worst penalties for leaking classified information, because the parties they are leaking to are legally authorized to see such information.

Now, this wouldn't apply to codeword-classified information, just general top secret (and below) information. And it wouldn't mean that there would be no penalties for leaking the information to them -- you can still be fired for leaking classified information to an unauthorized recipient.

But you could not, I think, be prosecuted under the Espionage Act for giving classified information to those not cleared to see it. The whole point of security clearances is that having one means you are authorized, generally, to see such information.

So Brennan and Clapper are NBC's and CNN's collection points for unauthorized classified leaks.

"Fusion Ken" Dilanian is squealing precisely because John Brennan will not be worth as much to himself or his employer NBC if his security clearance is terminated.

Also note that while technically, Brennan and Clapper might be authorized to see classified information, they still wouldn't be cleared to release it publicly (as the public consists of a great mass of unauthorized persons):

First of all, the First Amendment protects a lot of behavior which would otherwise be prosecutable under the Espionage Act. Newspapers technically violate classification laws a lot, but plead the First Amendment as a defense.

Second of all, you don't have to actually disclose the information to help a reporter himself get the information out there. Recall "Deep Throat," the FBI official Mark Felt, who would not reveal classified information to Bob Woodward, as he did not want to give Woodward any information which could be traced back to him and get him fired, but who would serve as a second source confirming (or repudiating, if false) information that Woodward had been leaked from a different source.

Brennan is no doubt serving a similar role for NBC, and Clapper for CNN. It seems likely, to me anyway, that these mercenaries are assisting those "news" outlets in pushing leaks out to the public by at least warning them away from the ones that seem to them wrong. Which tells their employers which leaks they receive seem accurate. By simply not saying "No, don't run that," they essentially tell NBC and CNN that they are not aware of any reason the leak would be provably false.

(A similar tactic was used by Woodward in getting information from a partially-willing source: He said "I'm going to run X story, and I'm going to count down from ten, interrupt me if you you know any reason I should not run X story.")

Lastly, these people can flat-out tell reporters classified information in a hint-hint way and get away with it. From James Comey's explanation as to why he did not prosecute Hillary Clinton for disclosing classified information in her unsecure email system which was shared with non-cleared persons: He said she employed the practice of "talking around" the classified information, which seems to be just hinting at it without being specific, trusting that anyone who knows the information you're talking about gets what you're talking about.

Supposedly this method of "talking around" classified information makes it legal -- per no less a legal authority than Jesus Christ's personal adviser James Comey.

Yet, I can think of many people who could figure out the information you're "talking around" who are not actually authorized to receive it. Reporters covering the story, for example, who have generally received hints and leaks about the information, and can piece the parts they don't know or haven't confirmed yet from your "talking around" the information.

Enemy intelligence services could also easily do this. You know, like the enemy intelligence service the FBI found that hacked Hillary's emails (which Strzok and Co. then took out of the official FBI statement on the matter).

If you just know a little of the story, you can figure out the rest if someone who knows the whole story "talks around" the classified information.

And Comey has decided such "talking around" by authorized persons to unauthorized persons is non-prosecutable. No "intent," you see.

So why shouldn't Brennan and Clapper take their good friend Comey's legal advice and just "talk around" the classified information they have to their worker-friends Jake Tapper and Fusion Ken Dilanian?

As there is no national security upside to letting these leakers and liars keep their security clearances and continue "monetizing" them -- as Trump correctly said -- and quite a bit of national security downside to letting them keep them, it's time to terminate the clearances.


Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:37 PM




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1 I read the content...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 24, 2018 05:39 PM (0Le4j)

2 Then I went and made a drink...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 24, 2018 05:39 PM (0Le4j)

3 Hung out, watched some tv...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 24, 2018 05:39 PM (0Le4j)

4 Ok, I'll call the others.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 24, 2018 05:40 PM (0Le4j)

5 But first, all Five?

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 24, 2018 05:40 PM (0Le4j)

6 Ha!

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 24, 2018 05:40 PM (0Le4j)

7 Yank them. No legit reason to keep them.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 24, 2018 05:41 PM (7/YOc)

8 Who is Yanking Clapper? Kind of a funny first name.

Posted by: ro-man at July 24, 2018 05:41 PM (RuIsu)

9 Trump
Trump
Trump



Declassify
Declassify
Declassify

Posted by: ShainS at July 24, 2018 05:42 PM (TPROn)

10 Ace had me at Kate Upton sitting on my face.

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 24, 2018 05:42 PM (/HC6x)

11 >>Enemy intelligence services could also easily do this. You know, like the enemy intelligence service the FBI found that hacked Hillary's emails (which Strzok and Co. then took out of the official FBI statement on the matter).

If you just know a little of the story, you can figure out the rest if someone who knows the whole story "talks around" the classified information.




Cure trick.
Freakin' yank their security clearance NOW.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2018 05:42 PM (W+vEI)

12 I'll be back, that's a lot to resd

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 05:43 PM (pHfeF)

13 Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what intent ye have sent for me?

Posted by: Lord Comey at July 24, 2018 05:44 PM (wjHbC)

14 Has anyone been prosecuted for leaking classified information under PDT?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at July 24, 2018 05:44 PM (rdl6o)

15 And while we're yanking clearances I would include practically every past administrative person going back to pappy Bush. Everyone.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at July 24, 2018 05:44 PM (4T16b)

16 But, yanking their security clearance will result in a stermly worded tweet from Bill Kristol and Egg McMuffin.

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 24, 2018 05:45 PM (/HC6x)

17 Ace, if I am not mistaken, a retired senior Intel official with a security clearance also gets to cut to the head of the line at The Golden Corral (during the Early Bird Special 'til 4:30 only..)

Posted by: Muldoon at July 24, 2018 05:45 PM (m45I2)

18 Why would any president be obligated to maintain the security clearances of people who hate and are desperately trying to destroy his presidency?
I'm not an expert and I don't play one on television but that makes no sense to me.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 24, 2018 05:45 PM (eAMlh)

19 They can all go to hell.

Their sense of entitlement is palpable.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at July 24, 2018 05:45 PM (nILVB)

20 First of all, the First Amendment protects a lot of behavior which would
otherwise be prosecutable under the Espionage Act. Newspapers
technically violate classification laws a lot, but plead the First
Amendment as a defense.


They are relying on that shitty ruling in NYT vs US Government for the Pentagon Papers. But they are even going beyond that. That shitty ruling said the government could not censer the newspaper from printing classified information w/o going to court ahead of time to prevent it. Hower the ruling did allow the government to prosecute reporters and the paper "after the fact' if they could show damage.


And BTW, that release of the Pentagon Papers did ultimately result in the deaths of numerous US agents.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 24, 2018 05:45 PM (mpXpK)

21 Oh, and Ken Dewhatshisname - guy who is TIGHT with FusionGPS - saying The Daily Caller does not provide any "real" journalism to Katy Tur is laughable. And enraging.


Find all his intel sources and yank their security clearance, too, just because.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2018 05:45 PM (W+vEI)

22 "Fusion Ken? You mean, like, the music genre?" -- Hillary 2020!!!

Posted by: ShainS at July 24, 2018 05:46 PM (TPROn)

23 And anyone in government service with a security clear should automatically lose it as soon as they leave government service. I lost my secret clearance as soon as I got out of the Navy.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 24, 2018 05:47 PM (mpXpK)

24 Stocking the candiru tank over here, boss!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 24, 2018 05:47 PM (fA1SL)

25 By making this threat, @realDonaldTrump is seeking to levy a financial penalty on @JohnBrennan and Clapper.

It's a tax.

Posted by: t-bird at July 24, 2018 05:47 PM (OiC69)

26 >>Has anyone been prosecuted for leaking classified information under PDT?


Reality Winner.
And that Senate Intel Security guy Mike Wolfe

Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2018 05:47 PM (W+vEI)

27 Trump needs to let these people keep their security clearances in order to prove he's not working for Putin.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 24, 2018 05:47 PM (KxbBq)

28 ADX Florence.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 24, 2018 05:47 PM (NWiLs)

29 Yes. If you have a security clearance, that means it's a whole lot easier to get a job that requires one. The first time I got one it took a couple months for everything to go through, during which I got paid but couldn't do my job.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 24, 2018 05:48 PM (h2Bdk)

30 "With Comey and McCabe proven leakers, with Brennan looking like he arranged the Comey briefing just to leak it, and calling Trump a traitor every week, etc., I would say the likelihood that Trump will call up on these Genius Experts' Expert Genius to be about the likelihood that Kate Upton will pay me thirty million dollars to sit on my face."

---------------

Aside from all the commentor wit, prose like this is why I keep coming back here! Classic stuff Ace, thanks for the laughs.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 24, 2018 05:48 PM (b3Pum)

31 Ok, it reads pretty fast.
I don't see why they should continue their clearece, and being arch enemies of President Trump even if political, its war and all's fair.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 05:48 PM (pHfeF)

32 >>Has anyone been prosecuted for leaking classified information under PDT?

Yes. Two off the top of my head. The FBI agent in Minneapolis and James Wolfe, director of security for the Senate Intel Committee who leaked the unreacted Carter Page warrant application to Ali Watkins for a little nookie.

Pretty sure there will be more coming.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 24, 2018 05:48 PM (/tuJf)

33 By making this threat, @realDonaldTrump is seeking to levy a financial penalty on @JohnBrennan and Clapper.
=====

Oh, yeah, I'm sure the poorhouse is right around the corner for these bastards....

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at July 24, 2018 05:48 PM (nILVB)

34 Yank their clearances. If it ever comes to the point where they get called back to consult -yeah, right- they can reapply.
Having a security clearance is not intended as a perk. Lower level government employees can lose theirs for a DUI or a domestic violence accusation. What makes Clapper and Brennan et al any better than them?

Posted by: Antisocialist at July 24, 2018 05:48 PM (9BwmK)

35 David Blackmon had the best take on this yesterday.

Had me laughing all the way home.

Posted by: chinese rock at July 24, 2018 05:48 PM (wJ/0D)

36 These scumbags are no longer in jobs requiring such clearances. They no longer have a Need to Know. Yank those clearances.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2018 05:49 PM (cqWJg)

37 I would think that the President could grant anyone immediate clearance if needed, and if he needed advice from these jerkwads, he should have his clearance revoked... I know he can't, but...

Posted by: RobInKaty at July 24, 2018 05:49 PM (hQb6B)

38 NO CLEARANCE FOR YOU!

Posted by: concrete girl/soup nazi at July 24, 2018 05:49 PM (BVthB)

39 They can keep their clearances if they can be trusted. But they're not going to like how we test for that...

Posted by: t-bird at July 24, 2018 05:49 PM (DCYln)

40 Pull those clearances like a man starting an old lawnmower.
....like a Harkonnen with a heart-plug.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 24, 2018 05:50 PM (fA1SL)

41 Sedition - the crime of saying, writing, or doing something that encourages people to disobey their government

With Brennan and Clapper I'd say they are there. McCabe, Strzok and Comey? prove they didn't

Posted by: DanMan at July 24, 2018 05:51 PM (QMG5F)

42 There are also public policy reasons that former intel leaders remain cleared--so they can help their successors.

Pretty sure that is not AT ALL what they're doing.

Posted by: t-bird at July 24, 2018 05:51 PM (DCYln)

43 Please, prez Trump. Do it!!

Posted by: Booknlass at July 24, 2018 05:51 PM (84I0r)

44 I can just see Comey on a street corner holding up a "Will Analyze Classified Information For Food" sign any day now........

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 24, 2018 05:52 PM (/HC6x)

45 I wonder if Obama still has any kind of security clearance.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 24, 2018 05:52 PM (KxbBq)

46 >....like a Harkonnen with a heart-plug.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 24, 2018 05:50 PM (fA1SL)



Those were damn handy. I love the sound they make when you pull them out.

Posted by: Muad'dib at July 24, 2018 05:52 PM (V4Cgg)

47 Security clearances are a valuable commodity.[/l]


*******


To me this sounds like a tacit admission that these guys are trafficking in secrets for profit.


Posted by: Muldoon at July 24, 2018 05:52 PM (m45I2)

48 No company that does business with the federal government will hire them if their security clearance is revoked.

That company would likely have to disclose such in their bid application-- meaning they'd be disqualified from the bid.
Seems to me it's in one of the FARs or DFARs regulations and required disclosures.

Revoking the clearance puts them in the same classification as a criminals-- no one will go near them.

Leaving them media jobs or book deals-- where anything they say can be tainted with that revocation.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at July 24, 2018 05:52 PM (TN1P5)

49 Why has Trump not yanked them? Why tweet out saying they should be yanked, and not do it?

What game is he playing?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 24, 2018 05:53 PM (+fPHo)

50 >>To me this sounds like a tacit admission that these guys are trafficking in secrets for profit

Emoluments Clause violation!!!!


Not really but who cares, the left never did.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 24, 2018 05:53 PM (/tuJf)

51 I think it was Judge Kavanaugh who, in one of his opinions, said something to the effect that the President is entitled to use ALL of his Executive power -- not just some of it.

Posted by: ShainS at July 24, 2018 05:53 PM (TPROn)

52 >>I can just see Comey on a street corner holding up a "Will Analyze Classified Information For Food" sign any day now........



Naw, he'll just consult for his buddy who runs the Lawfare blog - the one he hired as an FBI consultant so that he could pass his memos and other stuff to.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2018 05:54 PM (W+vEI)

53 But.. the morning Dolt told me that Trump's being petty for no good reason!

(I hope National Review goes out if business during the Trump Administration.)

Posted by: Oschisms at July 24, 2018 05:54 PM (cU0j1)

54 49 Why has Trump not yanked them? Why tweet out saying they should be yanked, and not do it?

What game is he playing?
Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 24, 2018 05:53 PM (+fPHo)

To make it as public and embarrassing as possible?

Posted by: eleven at July 24, 2018 05:54 PM (NLLmE)

55 Saw a homeless guy on the corner on my way home from work today. He was holding a sign that said, "Will peddle influence and reveal state secrets for food."

In the corner the sign said, "Former CIA agent. God Bless!"

Posted by: Muldoon at July 24, 2018 05:54 PM (m45I2)

56 zzzzZZZZzzzz

Posted by: J. Sessions at July 24, 2018 05:54 PM (r9UYA)

57 They always scream loud when grabbed by their balls.

Posted by: BluesFish at July 24, 2018 05:55 PM (QSrx1)

58 But where are we going to get our leaks?!?!?!?

Posted by: The MFM at July 24, 2018 05:55 PM (lK7fO)

59 And any counter argument that claims a Dem President will just do the same to prior conservative ecurity clearance holders I say good and so what? The same arguments to pull these current clearances would apply to those in the future.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 24, 2018 05:55 PM (2DOZq)

60 >>What game is he playing?

Same one he has been playing with selectively declassifying information for the last year, laser pointer and cats.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 24, 2018 05:55 PM (/tuJf)

61 Mallamutt @44 beat me to it. Well played my friend.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 24, 2018 05:56 PM (m45I2)

62 "The fact that they have security clearances means that illegal leakers can leak classified information to them and avoid the worst penalties for leaking classified information, because the parties they are leaking to are legally authorized to see such information."

Not true; the keys to legitimate exposure to classified information are (1) possession of the requisite personal clearance level, and (2) the need to know. Receiving leaked classified info fails the second part, at least.

"The whole point of security clearances is that having one means you are authorized, generally, to see such information."

Authorization depends on both of the keys above. No need to know = no authorization to receive classified information, even if you have the requisite clearance.

"Also note that while technically, Brennan and Clapper might be authorized to seeclassified information, they still wouldn't be cleared to release it publicly..."

They are only authorized to see information they have a need to know. Being a talking head on TV doesn't qualify as a need to know anything, classified or not.

I agree that these clowns need to have their clerances revoked. But there's no way they can legally receive classified information, even if their clearances are still there, without that "need to know," which they definitely don't have.

Posted by: Taylor at July 24, 2018 05:56 PM (fEOrt)

63
...about the likelihood that Kate Upton will pay me thirty million dollars to sit on my face

Plan "B" would be motor board Christina Hendricks.
https://tinyurl.com/yb6jhhwd

Posted by: YIKES! at July 24, 2018 05:56 PM (t6XCL)

64 Brennan (and Comey) are engaged in outright campaigns against the duly sitting President, *AND* left under clouds.

There is no reason to allow these grifters to manipulate with the implied imprimatur of the US government.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 24, 2018 05:56 PM (oVJmc)

65 En fuego!

Posted by: That Guy Who Shouts "En fuego!" at July 24, 2018 05:56 PM (ctuyM)

66 There are also public policy reasons that former intel leaders remain cleared--so they can help their successors.

Pretty sure that is not AT ALL what they're doing.
Posted by: t-bird at July 24, 2018 05:51 PM (DCYln)

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Yeah, this is all about helping themselves in their post .Gov lives.

It's like all those idiots who tried to make the case for Comey not being fired until the next week, when he would have been immediately eligible for his full pension. They tried to frame it a a "right" after all of his "Government Service".

It's called Punishment, motherphuchers. Do you even speak it?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 24, 2018 05:56 PM (b3Pum)

67 Look. We're not the only ones that fall for the laser pointer thing.

Posted by: Teh cats at July 24, 2018 05:56 PM (NLLmE)

68 Chuck Schemer -- The intelligence community has 6 ways from Sunday of getting back at you if you cross them...

I'd say that's reason enough, right there, to dump these bozos' clearances. Plus plenty of still employed bozos of questionable loyalty to the President.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 24, 2018 05:56 PM (0ogQG)

69 ADX Florence.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 24, 2018 05:47 PM (NWiLs)

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I don't want them in CO. Besides, the weather at USP Pollock is just abominable.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 24, 2018 05:57 PM (AzW6q)

70
To keep them legal to accept classified information, in case the president needs to call them out of retirement to advise him on a national security matter.


Which makes sense because democrats are doing everything they can to dick around with getting the people Trump hires their security clearences

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 24, 2018 05:57 PM (10vO4)

71 Sebastian Gorka was in for Dennis Prager today, he explained security clearance and How temporarily clearance can be granted while the permanent clearance is finalized.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 05:57 PM (pHfeF)

72 48 "Revoking the clearance puts them in the same classification as a criminals-- no one will go near them. "
Well, alrighty then! That's only fitting, since they are criminals.

Posted by: Toad-O at July 24, 2018 05:57 PM (cct0t)

73 . . .and also. Can POTUS undo the security clearances of a broad field of bureaucrats that Husain junior enabled to access And leak intelligence?

I'm hopeful

Gee it's fun having a fantastic President

Posted by: Booknlass at July 24, 2018 05:58 PM (84I0r)

74 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.

Posted by: Lord Comey at July 24, 2018 05:59 PM (wjHbC)

75 Clearances also depend on Need to Know -- does this person, in their CURRENT JOB, have a Need to Know classified information. I assume the Obama natsec crew are paid consultants for think tanks and/or defense contractors, but my god. The amount of leaking that has taken place would make me take a hard, close look at their status.
Also, ace, hobo history: https://www.washingtonpost.com/ entertainment/books/ the-grit-and-adventure-of-hobo-life-comes-into-focus-in-on-the-fly /2018/07/24/1fe534b0-68fa-11e8-bea7-c8eb28bc52b1_story.html (remove spaces)

Posted by: Beltway Elite at July 24, 2018 05:59 PM (b6kHD)

76 "it's time to terminate the clearances."

------------

It's long past time to terminate their clearances.

I am horrified at how naive are the Republican politicians who trust the Dem political appointments to not harm them when they get the chance. Well now, it has been proven to,them that the Dem political appointments will not wait for a chance but will create it if ncecessary.

Any Republicans who retain their clearance during Dem admins can now safely be assumed to are also prepared to hurt their own side just to remain with the cool kids.

Posted by: Decaf at July 24, 2018 05:59 PM (Mymqt)

77 The whole coup clucks clan can get fucked.

Posted by: steevy at July 24, 2018 05:59 PM (LiyEm)

78 It's actually amazing to me that they admitted these security clearances are being used as a commodity rather than as a legitimate means to assist in an advisory role.

It's like a lottery ticket to ensure high paying gigs on these leftist networks, and they are bitching that these already rich on our tax dollars could take a financial hit?? when in less civilized times they'd be treated like chandeliers, swinging by day and burning at night.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at July 24, 2018 05:59 PM (+dsLj)

79 Who's in charge of yanking their clearance? It should have been done long ago. PDT's staff let him down.

no not that staff the other one

Posted by: freaked at July 24, 2018 06:00 PM (UdKB7)

80 It's a stellar idea to let a fucking commie and goatraper convert to keep his security clearance. Fuck it, he only ran the CIA.

Burn this shitpile to the ground.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 24, 2018 06:00 PM (89T5c)

81 Plan "B" would be motor board Christina Hendricks.

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Motorboarding sounds like a truly horrible torture.

Probably about right for Brennan, et. al.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 24, 2018 06:00 PM (AzW6q)

82 And recall this little tidbit that came out at the end of TFG's Reign Of Error

(WFB)

January 10, 2017 5:00 am

Lawmakers and congressional insiders continue to raise questions about a senior Obama administration official and proponent of its Iran diplomacy following revelations he was denied interim security clearance before being given a senior role in the White House, according to conversations with multiple sources.

That who being Ben Rhodes.

Clearances? We don't need no stinkin' clearances!

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 24, 2018 06:01 PM (0ogQG)

83 Helicopter Rides!! Get your helicopter rides right here!!!

Posted by: Auguste Pinochet at July 24, 2018 06:01 PM (ARUHl)

84 Maybe I am misremembering, but one of the *gasp* Petraeus charges was that he was bringing classified materials home to be reviewed by his *biographer* who also had a high security clearance.

One of the Manafort judges was irritable about Mueller's claims about security clearances because judge had a very high clearance and the SCIF in his chambers.

Because clearance is now a commodity, maybe trading rules should apply.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 24, 2018 06:01 PM (MIKMs)

85 The President should really hire some one to look into these violations and rescrubs.

Posted by: J. Sessions at July 24, 2018 06:01 PM (r9UYA)

86 Chuck Schemer -- The intelligence community has 6 ways from Sunday of getting back at you if you cross them...

*********************

How nobody blinked an eye or showed complete alarm at the thought that an unelected unnamed bureaucracy could have that kind of leverage on elected representatives is beyond me.

Burn the whole fucking thing down.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at July 24, 2018 06:01 PM (+dsLj)

87

These people commit crimes in hope of going to prison and being gang raped in the prison shower...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 24, 2018 06:01 PM (UFLLM)

88 C'Mon, Brennan and Clapper were hired only because they bring the sexy.

Posted by: Inspector Robert Mueller at July 24, 2018 06:01 PM (qoKAm)

89 71 http://player.tritondigital.com/1201
Replay starting at beginning of show

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 06:01 PM (pHfeF)

90 OT: 2nd quarter GDP comes out on Friday, and rumors are flying. Consensus is four to five percent. Trump is hinting at 4.8 percent.

Turrible.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 24, 2018 06:01 PM (HiLJ1)

91 No. Just no.

I just retired from the Federal Gov't and had a Top Secret clearance. Had.

In outprocessing you sign a classified information non-disclosure statement and the Boss insures that you turn any documents that have any connection to your employment. You agree not to discuss/write, etc... anything about said employment without checking and getting approval from the outfit.

If the gov wanted me to return to assist them, (I actually had a criminal case set for trial after retirement), they can issue an interim clearance for the purpose of assisting them. Easy.

At the level these nitwits acted at, it's an easy move. That their clearances have not been revoked is a violation. They do not have a need-to-know anything classified as private citizens.

Here endeth the lesson...

Posted by: Bones at July 24, 2018 06:01 PM (oAZLj)

92 "a valuable commodity"

Really? Really? Beuhler? Beuhler?

for sale is it?

Posted by: simplemind at July 24, 2018 06:01 PM (alic9)

93 Heh. I pointed out a few times that the only legit justification for continuing the clearances would be for possibly consulting with the IC in the future, and how lame that was. And now this guy Ken trots it out.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2018 06:02 PM (/qEW2)

94 How are these assholes not in jail, let alone given security clearance?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at July 24, 2018 06:02 PM (rdl6o)

95 All this has done is make the people suspect every bureaucrat regardless of level to betray the people. The evidence is that only Trump and a handful of Republicans in DC are doing anything about it or even paying lip service.

Just look at Gowdy, he can't make up his mind from day to day which side he is on?

Posted by: Decaf at July 24, 2018 06:02 PM (Mymqt)

96 >>Why has Trump not yanked them? Why tweet out saying they should be yanked, and not do it?


I can think of a few reasons, such as:

-- Retaining it gave them a false sense of security that their leaking of classified info was not being tracked

-- Clapper, Brennan and Comey have done enough tweeting against Trump to create a wonderful illustration of why they should not have it (Brennan deleted most of his tweets after Rand Pail questioned his security clearance)

If Trump did it from the start, he'd be petty.
Now, these a$$holes have made Trump's case for him - and as a bonus, Trump can say it was Rand Paul who spearheaded the effort.

Trump is making sure people see this for themselves - they don't have to trust, or even like him to see what the DC swamp is.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2018 06:02 PM (W+vEI)

97 Cancel the sec clearances, passport, hall pass, jelly of the month club, gym membership, and issue them a card carrying CUCK card.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 24, 2018 06:03 PM (JFO2v)

98 Baron will not make the same mistake, and their bones shall line his Throne of Skulls.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 24, 2018 06:03 PM (oVJmc)

99 Security clearances are indeed a valuable commodity...IF you work for a firm that has been approved, typically, by the Defense Security Service to work on classified contracts. I doubt NBC does.
Further...the clearance billet goes with the job, not the person. Once the person leaves the job, they are "read off" from their billet and reminded of the Non-Disclosure Agreement they signed.
People at this level of government typically have workaround for precisely the reasons stated...to ease the transition of their replacements and to be of assistance in the future. But there is NO rule that says holding the clearance is indefinite.
Last, at the end of the day, everyone gets a periodic background investigation...EVERYONE! And everyone has shit they want to keep hidden. Even Brennan, Clapper et al.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 24, 2018 06:03 PM (0tfLf)

100 To keep them legal to accept classified information, in case the president needs to call them out of retirement to advise him on a national security matter.



How many times did Obola call on Shrub's people to advise him?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 24, 2018 06:03 PM (7/YOc)

101 A brief musical interlude from Cock Sparrer:

From the streets of Aberdeen to the Brighton scene
There's something going wrong
From the woolacomb shore to the tots dance floor
They all shout "what's going on?"

You promised us a country fit for a queen
But the queen doesn't have to pay
You promised us a future bright and clean
For a vote on electionday

Is there no-one left to shout?
There's some people round here need sorting out
'Coz for you there's just no hope

Get a rope, get a rope

Posted by: Braenyard at July 24, 2018 06:03 PM (s9DTK)

102 Paddle board? No asshole, you're getting a paddle bit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 24, 2018 06:03 PM (89T5c)

103 Top of hour radio news reports crack downs, murders and disappearance in Venezuela, but then that's always the outcome of Socialism.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 06:03 PM (pHfeF)

104 Gowdy may be ambiguous as to his leanings but Paul Ryan only opens his mouth to betray Republicans.

Posted by: Decaf at July 24, 2018 06:04 PM (Mymqt)

105 "They do not have a need-to-know anything classified as private citizens."

Yet they persist. Like dry rot.

Posted by: freaked at July 24, 2018 06:04 PM (UdKB7)

106 "I would say the likelihood that Trump will call up on these Genius
Experts' Expert Genius to be about the likelihood that Kate Upton will
pay me thirty million dollars to sit on my face."

You know Ace that has a statistical probability of 0.00001% of occurring.


Those are better odds than betting on Trump calling on brennan to advise him on National Security matters.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 24, 2018 06:04 PM (JUOKG)

107 You know Ace that has a statistical probability of 0.00001% of occurring.

So you're saying there's a chance?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 24, 2018 06:05 PM (NWiLs)

108 Taylor @62.
Well said.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 24, 2018 06:05 PM (0tfLf)

109 The last time Brennan uses classified material, should be when he publishes his auto-da-fe about his crimes, a la Nikolai Bukharin.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 24, 2018 06:05 PM (AzW6q)

110 "...valuable commodity" ???????????

Paging Dr. Freud

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 24, 2018 06:05 PM (ARUHl)

111 >>104
Gowdy may be ambiguous as to his leanings but Paul Ryan only opens his mouth to betray Republicans.

Posted by: Decaf

I'm overjoyed that both of those assholes are gone in a few months.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 24, 2018 06:06 PM (r9UYA)

112 They may need me to explain how it works. Clap on, clap off.

Posted by: Teh Clapper at July 24, 2018 06:06 PM (Tyii7)

113 I want that son of a bitch McCabe's head on a pike for tarnishing the public reputation of guys with crew cuts and acetate-frame browline glasses. That kind of credibility takes years to earn and we frankly resent the hell out of what he's done to it.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 24, 2018 06:07 PM (y87Qq)

114 Now, these a$$holes have made Trump's case for him - and as a bonus, Trump can say it was Rand Paul who spearheaded the effort.

Trump is making sure people see this for themselves - they don't have to trust, or even like him to see what the DC swamp is.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 24, 2018 06:02 PM (W+vEI)

--------------

I would be willing to bet that Rand did not do this out of the blue, with no prompting. PDT probably saw that the time was right, and called in a favor from Rand.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 24, 2018 06:07 PM (b3Pum)

115 Haven't leakers demonstrated they can't keep clasified information secure?

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 24, 2018 06:07 PM (eAMlh)

116 All this has done is make the people suspect every bureaucrat regardless of level to betray the people. ...

Posted by: Decaf
______________


And encourage the want-to-bees.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 24, 2018 06:07 PM (s9DTK)

117 48
No company that does business with the federal government will hire them if their security clearance is revoked.



That company would likely have to disclose such in their bid application-- meaning they'd be disqualified from the bid.

Seems to me it's in one of the FARs or DFARs regulations and required disclosures.



Revoking the clearance puts them in the same classification as a criminals-- no one will go near them.



Leaving them media jobs or book deals-- where anything they say can be tainted with that revocation.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at July 24, 2018 05:52 PM (TN1P5)


Don't think that's true. I worked for a subcontractor and received a security clearance. The drill is every 5 years. Initially, they went back all the way to H.S. with mine. From there, it was just a "last 5 years" review kinda thing.

So said company would have to pay to do the intensive first "look back" and then basically a modified cost for the last 5 years. These folks wouldn't be out of a job and given the background check has already been done and is on file, they won't be destitute.

It just eliminates Joe Security Clearance talking to ClapperHead and ClapperHead "talking" around said topic on TV.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 24, 2018 06:07 PM (q1VoB)

118 They always scream loud when grabbed by their balls.

Posted by: BluesFish at July 24, 2018 05:55 PM (QSrx1)
...........

OWW MY BALLS

Posted by: them at July 24, 2018 06:07 PM (HgMAr)

119 Paul Ryan only opens his mouth to betray Republicans.

------

He's not betraying them.

They're betraying us, each and every day.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 24, 2018 06:07 PM (AzW6q)

120 ...and don't even get me started on the Pocket Fisherman.

Posted by: Teh Clapper at July 24, 2018 06:08 PM (Tyii7)

121 the likelihood that Kate Upton will
pay me thirty million dollars to sit on my face."


********


Obesity- The Silent Killer





Mmmmmmmpppph, mffff, mffff...urk!

Posted by: Muldoon at July 24, 2018 06:08 PM (m45I2)

122 You know Ace that has a statistical probability of 0.00001% of occurring.



So you're saying there's a chance?



Posted by: Insomniac at July 24, 2018 06:05 PM

---

There is always a chance. It might be infinitesimal but there is always a chance.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 24, 2018 06:08 PM (JUOKG)

123 This is, basically, a Trump troll move. He knows how much these guys covet their special status. This is at the center of that status and knows taking it away would be a nice little ego stomp. Also, and this is important, the next IG report comes out shortly dealing with the FISA warrants. Those named in the report get to read that portion and respond....but they will need a security clearance to see information...He wants them to ask for that security clearance...and he, also, wants to set conditions and monitor their actions.

Troll Move...Master Level.

Posted by: Orson at July 24, 2018 06:08 PM (PB5mZ)

124 Gowdy and Ryan are the ambiguously gay duo....

Posted by: steevy at July 24, 2018 06:08 PM (LiyEm)

125 O/T Meggie Mac's tits were not calm on The View today. She went head-to-head with Joyless Behar over socialism. Whoopi "had" to cut to a commercial for them to calm their boobies.


https://tinyurl.com/y73rhchw

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 24, 2018 06:08 PM (ptqGC)

126 Winning? This is a step in the right direction for sure. Indictments would be better.

Posted by: Usntakim profoundly deplorable. at July 24, 2018 06:09 PM (0OmEj)

127 "I would say the likelihood that Trump will call up on these Genius
Experts' Expert Genius to be about the likelihood that Kate Upton will
pay me thirty million dollars to sit on my face."

So, Ace is basically willing to prostitute himself here.


Pssstttt....Kate,
I'm no Ace and I shave, unlike all Ewoks.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 24, 2018 06:09 PM (0tfLf)

128 The Deep State has allowed this. They each should have been "read off" any Special Access Programs with a corresponding warning as to what they can say and not say about such programs. This most certainly involves matters in the counterintelligence arena.

Upon leaving the service the clearances are to be terminated, unless transferred/used as required by a authorized entity, (defense contractor, etc...).

I don't think that includes CNN or MSNBC.

Whomever allowed this to happen, (Special Security Officer and agency head), got some 'splainin to do.

Moar corruption!

Posted by: Bones at July 24, 2018 06:09 PM (oAZLj)

129 90 OT: 2nd quarter GDP comes out on Friday, and rumors are flying. Consensus is four to five percent. Trump is hinting at 4.8 percent.

Turrible.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 24, 2018 06:01 PM (HiLJ1)


What was Q1? And any information on its expected revision?

Posted by: buzzion at July 24, 2018 06:09 PM (lKs2v)

130 Plan "B" would be motor board Christina Hendricks.

Motor Board (def.) Conjunction of Waterboarding and Motorboating. Describes strapping a woman down, placing mouth between hooters, shaking head, and making engine noise until she gives up pussy, credit cards, and/or secret information.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 24, 2018 06:10 PM (JFO2v)

131 This is something Trump can do that has no actual downside to it. But just to be safe let's ask John McCain's Tumor for a QuickHotTake.

JMT: McCain is the mole.

Posted by: 13times at July 24, 2018 06:10 PM (K3B2k)

132 I'm surprised Sally Yates wasn't included.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 24, 2018 06:10 PM (/tuJf)

133 Trump call them all for a conversation at the WH.
Interesting.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 24, 2018 06:10 PM (s9DTK)

134 From reading various comments on the site over time, I believe there's a 93.786654996 percent chance that at least one or two 'rons would underbid Ace.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 24, 2018 06:10 PM (ctuyM)

135 Sebastian Gorka explained if someone had a clearance but lost it it could be reinstated by another application

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 06:10 PM (pHfeF)

136 What does portly Bill Kristol think about all this?

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 24, 2018 06:11 PM (eAMlh)

137 127 "I would say the likelihood that Trump will call up on these Genius
Experts' Expert Genius to be about the likelihood that Kate Upton will
pay me thirty million dollars to sit on my face."

So, Ace is basically willing to prostitute himself here.


Pssstttt....Kate,
I'm no Ace and I shave, unlike all Ewoks.


Posted by: Diogenes at July 24, 2018 06:09 PM


Well, that was weird...typing away and it just posts itself.

Anyway...Kate, sweetie, I'll even help set up a Go Fund Me page for ya and I'm a lot cheaper than Mr Ace!
Just a paltry $40 bucks down, and I'll bring the beer.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 24, 2018 06:12 PM (0tfLf)

138 Has anyone been prosecuted for leaking classified information under PDT?
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at July 24, 2018 05:44 PM (rdl6o)

As a matter of fact, yes. I remember either a posting or a sidebar link a couple of months ago. Some black FBI agent out West plead guilty to leaking classified information; his justification was that the Trump administration was Rayciss™. The court did not find that a compelling argument for the defense.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 24, 2018 06:12 PM (5Yee7)

139
agree that these clowns need to have their clerances revoked. But there's no way they can legally receive classified information, even if their clearances are still there, without that "need to know," which they definitely don't have.

Posted by: Taylor at July 24, 2018 05:56 PM (fEOrt)


Tell me again how the U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. was able to unmask citizens under investigationon a need to know basis at the rate of one a day?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 24, 2018 06:12 PM (10vO4)

140 >>>"it's time to terminate their clearances."


Let's start with the first part.

Posted by: Max Power at July 24, 2018 06:12 PM (q177U)

141 103 Top of hour radio news reports crack downs, murders and disappearance in Venezuela, but then that's always the outcome of Socialism.
Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 06:03 PM (pHfeF)

Cuba had to kill about 30K to 40K (US Pop equal 600k to 800k) to get their citizens in line.

I would love to ask occasional kotex how many people she would be OK with entering re-ed camps?

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 24, 2018 06:13 PM (JFO2v)

142 It wasn't easy growing up with this last name, you know.

Posted by: Teh Clapper at July 24, 2018 06:13 PM (Tyii7)

143 What does portly Bill Kristol think about all this?
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 24, 2018 06:11 PM (eAMlh)

------

I think that Brennan, Comey, and Clapper can pass me around like dockside rent-boy at every port-of-call on the next voyage of the Sea Queen.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at July 24, 2018 06:13 PM (AzW6q)

144 Gee, did these guys do exit interviews with HR?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 24, 2018 06:13 PM (e1mEI)

145 Three reasons to immediately remove the security clearance of any political appointee from previous administrations ...

Sandy F'N Berger

https://tinyurl.com/y9uslvck

Posted by: bobby at July 24, 2018 06:13 PM (RU0iX)

146 90 OT: 2nd quarter GDP comes out on Friday, and rumors are flying. Consensus is four to five percent. Trump is hinting at 4.8 percent.

Turrible.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 24, 2018 06:01 PM (HiLJ1)


Here come the Fed, here come the Fed.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 24, 2018 06:14 PM (s9DTK)

147 This is what happens when commies run your gov't.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 24, 2018 06:14 PM (89T5c)

148 If Kate sat on Ace's face we'd never get anything posted around here.

Posted by: wth at July 24, 2018 06:14 PM (HgMAr)

149 ace>Clapper and Brennan are now being paid by media corporations whose mission it is to take down the duly-elected president of the United States

Shortest version...

Posted by: golfman at July 24, 2018 06:15 PM (If3tB)

150 Kate Upton pussy = $30 million + my face.....scribbles furiously.

Posted by: A Moron at July 24, 2018 06:15 PM (bppfg)

151 148
If Kate sat on Ace's face we'd never get anything posted around here.

Posted by: wth at July 24, 2018 06:14 PM (HgMAr)

And it would take the mortician weeks to get that smile off his face.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 24, 2018 06:15 PM (gEvQ8)

152 145 Three reasons to immediately remove the security clearance of any political appointee from previous administrations ...

Sandy F'N Berger

https://tinyurl.com/y9uslvck


Posted by: bobby at July 24, 2018 06:13 PM


Hey Sandy...you happy to see me or is that a TS document in your pants?

What an ass.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 24, 2018 06:15 PM (0tfLf)

153 There aren't words sufficient to describe what a piece of human garbage Joy Behar is.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at July 24, 2018 06:16 PM (nILVB)

154 ...the likelihood that Kate Upton will
pay me thirty million dollars to sit on my face.


******


This would only be a dilemma if that were a "one or the other" proposition.


I'd take the 30 million and forego the smotherification.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 24, 2018 06:16 PM (m45I2)

155 The kids called me Peni, short for Penicillin. Sigh.

Posted by: Teh Clapper at July 24, 2018 06:16 PM (Tyii7)

156 If Kate sat on Ace's face we'd never get anything posted around here.
Posted by: wth at July 24, 2018 06:14 PM

But at least we could contemplate putting pure maple syrup on French Toast without fear.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 24, 2018 06:16 PM (ctuyM)

157 136 What does portly Bill Kristol think about all this?
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 24, 2018 06:11 PM (eAMlh)

Who give a flyin fuk? These nutless, dickless, testosterone less, panty waist weasels hate you, me, Ace, JJ, Vic, Mary PPP, Lurker, and all the others.

I would risk a UTI to not piss on them if they were on fire.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 24, 2018 06:17 PM (JFO2v)

158 Well...I guess it beats sitting anything on one of Ace's shelves.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 24, 2018 06:18 PM (0tfLf)

159 None dare call it treason. Well actuated lots of morons do. It's pretty obvious.

Posted by: Zombie John Birch at July 24, 2018 06:18 PM (bppfg)

160 I would risk a UTI to not piss on them if they were on fire.

********************

Nah, I wouldn't be so cruel, I'd happily douse them to put the fires out.

Napalm puts fires out just as easily as water I'm told.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at July 24, 2018 06:18 PM (+dsLj)

161 Probably will regret this later. Ordered the spicy sushi boat. My sinuses are clear and presently sweating. Yum.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2018 06:18 PM (cqWJg)

162 Where is Richard Pryor when I really need him?

Posted by: Teh Clapper at July 24, 2018 06:18 PM (Tyii7)

163 We're all on a list. Many of us are on many lists.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 24, 2018 06:18 PM (89T5c)

164 Clapper the bell ringer.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 24, 2018 06:19 PM (s9DTK)

165 Where have you gone Jefferson Sessions?

A nation turns its lonely eyes to you ...

Ooh, ooh, ooh.

Posted by: ShainS at July 24, 2018 06:19 PM (TPROn)

166 I am still chuckling at the idea of Trump calling these traitors for their advice. Bitch, please.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 24, 2018 06:19 PM (a0IVu)

167 163 We're all on a list. Many of us are on many lists.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 24, 2018 06:18 PM (89T5c)

____

We are all listicles now.

Posted by: ShainS at July 24, 2018 06:20 PM (TPROn)

168 Ya know, I just kinda wonder if ole Clapper's info got hoovered up by the Chinese just like mine did in the OPM fiasco. And if it's for sale.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 24, 2018 06:20 PM (gEvQ8)

169 166 I am still chuckling at the idea of Trump calling these traitors for their advice. Bitch, please.
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 24, 2018 06:19 PM (a0IVu)


I could see him doing that.

Then bursting out laughing and hanging up.

Posted by: Teh cats at July 24, 2018 06:20 PM (NLLmE)

170 Where have you gone Jefferson Sessions?
A nation turns its lonely eyes to you ...
Ooh, ooh, ooh.

Hello darkness, my old friend...

Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at July 24, 2018 06:20 PM (Tyii7)

171 I'm trying to establish the amount Kate Upton would have to pay me to sit on my face. I'm sure we could come to a figure that she could easily afford.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 24, 2018 06:20 PM (xp/bv)

172 No kitty!

Posted by: eleven at July 24, 2018 06:20 PM (NLLmE)

173 I'm late to this thread but why am I convinced that if the roles were reversed here and these were Repubicans/Conservatives there would literally...AND I MEAN LITERALLY...be riots in the streets.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 06:21 PM (RRchO)

174 Although the president is fully within his rights to terminate the clearances held by those disreputable fellows at any time, with full justification, it would be beneficial if he did so after resolutions requesting him to do so were passed by the House and/or the Senate oversight committees.

Posted by: mrp at July 24, 2018 06:21 PM (Pqytn)

175 166 I am still chuckling at the idea of Trump calling these traitors for their advice. Bitch, please.
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 24, 2018 06:19 PM (a0IVu


If he does he should call them the "Costanza Gut" Council.

Whatever they think, do the opposite.

Posted by: buzzion at July 24, 2018 06:21 PM (lKs2v)

176 163 & 167.
Here's 10 lists most people don't know they're on. #7 left us speechless

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 24, 2018 06:21 PM (fA1SL)

177 Perhaps it has flown under the radar, but none of them has bothered to deny the "monetized" aspect, which means they were monetized. It's a very serious allegation, not in the criminal sense but in that it diminishes credibility and respectability as far as that exists among the D.C. self-proclaimed elites.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 24, 2018 06:22 PM (xUB72)

178 90 OT: 2nd quarter GDP comes out on Friday, and rumors are flying. Consensus is four to five percent. Trump is hinting at 4.8 percent.

I shall write headlines:
Infaltion
Overheated economy
Wage inflation
Stock Market crash
unsustainable growth
overworked employees
Corps cannot fill posistions
dogs and cats, living together

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 24, 2018 06:22 PM (JFO2v)

179 There are also public policy reasons that former intel leaders remain cleared--so they can help their successors.

What is Clapper an expert in other than clogging toilets?

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 24, 2018 06:22 PM (y7DUB)

180 150 Kate Upton pussy = $30 million + my face.....scribbles furiously.
Posted by: A Moron at July 24, 2018 06:15 PM (bppfg)

Tell everyone you were eatin a frosted donut

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 24, 2018 06:23 PM (JFO2v)

181 1.)Start a smart military blog

2.)??????

3.)Profit, and do Kate Upton

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 24, 2018 06:23 PM (AzW6q)

182 I have to get a penicillin shot in college to cure a case of Yanking Clapper.

Posted by: Dangerously Cheezy at July 24, 2018 06:23 PM (Ai1hj)

183 Perhaps it has flown under the radar, but none of them has bothered to
deny the "monetized" aspect, which means they were monetized. It's a
very serious allegation, not in the criminal sense but in that it
diminishes credibility and respectability as far as that exists among
the D.C. self-proclaimed elites.

In the same way that the Left likes to discredit climate change skeptics as being in the bag for "Big Oil" and the like.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 06:23 PM (RRchO)

184 Why are people pointing at me, and saying "Nacho" to the people they're with?

* hic *

Posted by: Hillary! To 2020 and Beyond!!! at July 24, 2018 06:24 PM (ctuyM)

185 ...I've come to snooze through lunch again.

Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at July 24, 2018 06:24 PM (Tyii7)

186 Consider this. There is a much better chance of Lena making that offer.

Well. Would you?

Posted by: freaked at July 24, 2018 06:25 PM (UdKB7)

187 I'm trying to establish the amount Kate Upton would have to pay me to sit on my face. I'm sure we could come to a figure that she could easily afford.
Posted by: Minuteman at July 24, 2018 06:20 PM (xp/bv)

Buy one, get one free.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 24, 2018 06:25 PM (eAMlh)

188 There are also public policy reasons that former intel leaders remain cleared--so they can help their successors.


*******


This should extend only during the transition period. For matters such as which drawer the coffee creamer is kept in and what type of detergent to use in the dishwasher in the break room.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 24, 2018 06:25 PM (m45I2)

189 186 Consider this. There is a much better chance of Lena making that offer.

Well. Would you?


Hell no!

Posted by: Usntakim profoundly deplorable. at July 24, 2018 06:25 PM (0OmEj)

190 Although the president is fully within his rights to terminate the clearances held by those disreputable fellows at any time, with full justification, it would be beneficial if he did so after resolutions requesting him to do so were passed by the House and/or the Senate oversight committees.
Posted by: mrp at July 24, 2018 06:21 PM (Pqytn)

----------------------

That may be helpful politically, but not operationally. Those ass hats take "Government Service" way too seriuosly in cases like this. They would stretch this out into infinity.

Time for PDT to send a message. As has been said, he has every right to use ALL of the power vested in the Office he was elected to sit in, not just some of it.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 24, 2018 06:26 PM (b3Pum)

191 This continuing clearance thing is one of those things, like the Congressional legal defense fund for rape accusations, that you'd never believe was possible for it to exist. Washington will never exhaust its ability to surprise me.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2018 06:26 PM (/qEW2)

192 I didn't realize until yesterday that Clapper was a retired. Lieutenant General. Where in the fuck did he get his commission? A box of Cracker Jack????!!!!

And with Brennan being a former communist voter and then being head of the CIA????!!!! How the fuck did these guys get past the Senate in their confirmations????!!!!

Uh Oh. I just answered my own question. Fucking worthless Republicans.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 06:26 PM (RRchO)

193 "132 I'm surprised Sally Yates wasn't included."

Surely that's an oversight. At a minimum, she used her SC to set up Gen. Flynn for no better reason than chanting "lock her up," and explicitly failed to carry out a lawful order. Yates needs to perp walk but if the best that can be done is to humiliate her, do it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 24, 2018 06:26 PM (xUB72)

194 Checking to see if I still have my clearance after I retired. Nope. Not there. Damn, I could of made a crap ton of money with that thing.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 24, 2018 06:26 PM (gEvQ8)

195
There are also public policy reasons that former intel leaders remain cleared--so they can help their successors.


In this case we're trying to undo their policy

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 24, 2018 06:27 PM (10vO4)

196 some good ace-isms in this one.

Posted by: kallisty at July 24, 2018 06:27 PM (mn0Jm)

197 Probably will regret this later. Ordered the spicy sushi boat. My sinuses are clear and presently sweating. Yum.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2018 06:18 PM (cqWJg)

Sounds nice! My buddy Kari just ordered unagi. In Annecy, Haute-Savoie. As one does. It looks eel-licious!

https://stoatnet.org/unagi.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at July 24, 2018 06:27 PM (y87Qq)

198 Consider this. There is a much better chance of Lena making that offer.

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That 30 million would be filthier than Judas' 30 pieces of silver.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 24, 2018 06:27 PM (AzW6q)

199 Perhaps it has flown under the radar, but none of them has bothered to deny the "monetized" aspect, which means they were monetized. It's a very serious allegation, not in the criminal sense but in that it diminishes credibility and respectability as far as that exists among the D.C. self-proclaimed elites.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat


Hey, a guy's gotta' make a buck.

Posted by: Stormy at July 24, 2018 06:27 PM (s9DTK)

200 "a sickening example of content discrimination, violation of First Amendment. I hope they do it so the victims can sue."

Jennifer Rubin

Posted by: another off the wall tweet at July 24, 2018 06:27 PM (BVthB)

201 Jen Rubin really is nuts isn't she?

Posted by: steevy at July 24, 2018 06:28 PM (LiyEm)

202 Seriously people, having somebody sit on your face could compromise your airway and lead to catastrophic respiratory failure. I hope that at least you are using a CPAP device or an oxygen concentrator...

Posted by: Muldoon at July 24, 2018 06:28 PM (m45I2)

203 >>Surely that's an oversight. At a minimum, she used her SC to set up Gen. Flynn for no better reason than chanting "lock her up," and explicitly failed to carry out a lawful order. Yates needs to perp walk but if the best that can be done is to humiliate her, do it.

She also signed one of the FISA warrants applications against Page. She's a dirty, dirty girl.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 24, 2018 06:28 PM (/tuJf)

204 Ace, the odds are actually much better than that. Kate will actually pay you or not....2 possibilities= odds are 50/50....

Posted by: Math wizzzz at July 24, 2018 06:28 PM (nzKWW)

205 Hillary will sit on your face for three-fitty, Ace.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 24, 2018 06:28 PM (oVJmc)

206 Buy one, get one free.
Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at July 24, 2018 06:25 PM

This can have an unfortunate side-effect, in whichthe buyer might think that the second one is valueless.

Much better to offer the second at a substantial discount. For a penny, perhaps.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 24, 2018 06:28 PM (ctuyM)

207 Jen Rubin really is nuts isn't she?
Posted by: steevy at July 24, 2018 06:28 PM (LiyEm)

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Nope. Just a well-compensated whore.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 24, 2018 06:29 PM (AzW6q)

208 "132 I'm surprised Sally Yates wasn't included."



Surely that's an oversight. At a minimum, she used her SC to set up
Gen. Flynn for no better reason than chanting "lock her up," and
explicitly failed to carry out a lawful order. Yates needs to perp walk
but if the best that can be done is to humiliate her, do it.


Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 24, 2018 06:26 PM

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She was fired. IIRC from my time in the Security Clearance world that means her clearance should have been automatically terminated. comey's should have been also.


Not saying that was done, but those were/are the rules.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 24, 2018 06:29 PM (JUOKG)

209 misspelled me nic

Posted by: kallisto at July 24, 2018 06:29 PM (mn0Jm)

210 I've been thinking about this a little, and perhaps an hour into the post is not the best time to start thinking.

There's a difference between having a security clearance and having access to secure information.

Having a security clearance means we pretty well trust that you're not a commie and you can work on this classified next-generation bomber and by the way it's really fucking cool.

What Brennan and Clapper are getting is access to new intel. That's not really a security clearance question, that's a why are they being fed information question.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 24, 2018 06:29 PM (fuK7c)

211 Seriously people, having somebody sit on your face could compromise your airway and lead to catastrophic respiratory failure. I hope that at least you are using a CPAP device or an oxygen concentrator...
Posted by: Muldoon at July 24, 2018 06:28 PM

You, Sir, of all people know the rule.

ICD 10 code, or it's never happened.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 24, 2018 06:30 PM (ctuyM)

212 When we have people trying to explain that we need to keep de-facto Traders security clearances in case the person they're trying to frame ask them for National Security advice, and when Elizabeth f****** Warren has to go on TV and explain she's not a communist but all for capitalism then we have these m************ on the ropes 2018 is in the bag and so is 20/20

Posted by: Dime 333 at July 24, 2018 06:30 PM (aR6C/)

213 She was fired. IIRC from my time in the Security Clearance world that
means her clearance should have been automatically terminated. comey's
should have been also.

Ah. Then why does he still have it?

Posted by: Old Blue at July 24, 2018 06:30 PM (gEvQ8)

214 "200 "a sickening example of content discrimination, violation of First Amendment. I hope they do it so the victims can sue."

Jennifer Rubin"

I honestly thought that was a parody the first time it came across the transom.

Back to Sally Yates, a suggestion: when Sarah Sanders gets asked a follow-up about the security clearances, she should give an update of additional names, including Yates, and keep adding names each time the question is asked.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 24, 2018 06:31 PM (xUB72)

215 I'm late to this thread but why am I convinced that if the roles were reversed here and these were Repubicans/Conservatives there would literally...AND I MEAN LITERALLY...be riots in the streets.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 06:21 PM (RRchO)

If you mean by Lefties responding to the outrage of the day, then yes. It aggravates the $h!t out of me to see these, quite literally, treasonous and sedition scumbags wrap themselves in the American flag and declare their patriotism; all in an attempt to destroy the American concepts of limited government, individual liberty and national sovereignty.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 24, 2018 06:31 PM (5Yee7)

216 That poisonous little slug Brennan needs about a pound of sea salt dumped on him--then he can just dissolve away.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at July 24, 2018 06:31 PM (Sda6L)

217 >>She was fired. IIRC from my time in the Security Clearance world that means her clearance should have been automatically terminated. comey's should have been also.

And McCabe. And Hayden's expired a long time ago.

I think a lot of this was done to point out who was being investigated not just a literal consideration of who might lose a security clearance since at least half of them already have.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 24, 2018 06:32 PM (/tuJf)

218 "She was fired. IIRC from my time in the Security Clearance world that means her clearance should have been automatically terminated. comey's should have been also.


Not saying that was done, but those were/are the rules. "

We all kind of assume that, but then Comey was said still to have a clearance. Dunno.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 24, 2018 06:33 PM (xUB72)

219 "I hope that at least you are using a CPAP device or an oxygen concentrator..."

Snorkle long enough to clear the fupa.

Posted by: guy with Lena on his face at July 24, 2018 06:33 PM (UdKB7)

220 Why would Trump want to ask the advice of people who think he's an illegitimate President, and hasn't Brennan urged him to be overthrown or close to it? !

Yank the clearances!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2018 06:33 PM (AllCR)

221 Richard Burr is a very handsome man.

Posted by: Rick Wilson at July 24, 2018 06:33 PM (r9UYA)

222 And with Brennan being a former communist voter and then being head of the CIA????!!!! How the fuck did these guys get past the Senate in their confirmations????!!!!

Because anti-anti-Communism in DC is almost as strong as anti-anti-Illegal Immigration.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 24, 2018 06:34 PM (9qZ3S)

223
She was fired. IIRC from my time in the Security Clearance world that

means her clearance should have been automatically terminated. comey's

should have been also.

Ah. Then why does he still have it?





Posted by: Old Blue at July 24, 2018 06:30 PM

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Do we know for a fact that comey still has his clearance?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 24, 2018 06:35 PM (JUOKG)

224 Don't talk about doing it, just do it...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 24, 2018 06:35 PM (O2RFr)

225
"I hope that at least you are using a CPAP device or an oxygen concentrator..."


That's like swimming with water wings on

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 24, 2018 06:35 PM (10vO4)

226 224. Trump has said repeatedly, and has lived by the rule, as well, Never tell your enemies your plan.
I think the same thing is at work here.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 24, 2018 06:36 PM (fA1SL)

227 McConnell: Ryan and I Have 'Made It Clear That Putin Will Not Be Welcome' at the Capitol




Eff off turtle.

Posted by: Rick Wilson at July 24, 2018 06:36 PM (r9UYA)

228 Having a security clearance means we pretty well trust that you're not a commie and you can work on this classified next-generation bomber and by the way it's really fucking cool.

What Brennan and Clapper are getting is access to new intel. That's not really a security clearance question, that's a why are they being fed information question.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 24, 2018 06:29 PM (fuK7c)

That's what people have been saying on these threads since this came out. Having a clearance just means you've been vetted within the past 5 years and nothing was found that was problematic. And you still need a reinvestigation every five years to keep your clearance current. None of that means that you have access to classified information unless you're given specific permission to access information.

Posted by: Coach Beulah Balbricker at July 24, 2018 06:37 PM (/3v/C)

229 Trump putting a damper on the 'Leak Club for Men' (term stolen from another site)

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at July 24, 2018 06:37 PM (6ksbU)

230 off jugheaded homo sock

Posted by: Under Fire at July 24, 2018 06:37 PM (r9UYA)

231 138 Has anyone been prosecuted for leaking classified information under PDT?
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at July 24, 2018 05:44 PM (rdl6o)

____________________

James Wolfe, and potentially Ali Watkins.

Posted by: Orson at July 24, 2018 06:37 PM (PB5mZ)

232 Chicago Tribune calls Trump a goon...is that good or bad...They think they now have the goods on Trump paying Stormy...Does anyone care?

Posted by: Colin at July 24, 2018 06:38 PM (OlSD6)

233 Abolish the FBI.

No more fun of any kind.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2018 06:38 PM (EoRCO)

234 You dream of Kate Upton sitting on your face. You will get Yoko Ono sitting on your face and screaming.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 24, 2018 06:38 PM (a0IVu)

235 188 There are also public policy reasons that former intel leaders remain cleared--so they can help their successors.

Since accepting their help is not mandatory the chief executive can decline and yank their clearances. It is his choice. They were not offering "help" but were monetizing and abusing access. Rand Paul, M.D. also suggested (very politely) that Brennan, in his opinion and the treason language used, is crazy as a $hithouse rat and not fit to hold one and (I presume legally should not) for legal reasons can have it pulled for his nutty behavior..

Posted by: Lester at July 24, 2018 06:38 PM (LfJIn)

236 Trump putting a damper on the 'Leak Club for Men' (term stolen from another site)

Depends.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 24, 2018 06:38 PM (oVJmc)

237 Don't talk about doing it, just do it...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 24, 2018 06:35 PM (O2RFr)

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I'm pretty comfortable with the way PDT is going about this. By just talking about this first, he gets those who freak about it to publicly expose themselves.

He uses both language and timing to great effect. I'm pretty sure there is a method behind his actions.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 24, 2018 06:39 PM (b3Pum)

238 232
Trump paid Stormy?

I take back my vote!

j/k

Posted by: Emmie at July 24, 2018 06:39 PM (u5Rkx)

239 202 Seriously people, having somebody sit on your face could compromise your airway and lead to catastrophic respiratory failure

everybody dies at some time.

Posted by: Anachronda at July 24, 2018 06:39 PM (NmR1a)

240 None of that means that you have access to classified information unless you're given specific permission to access information.
Posted by: Coach Beulah Balbricker at July 24, 2018 06:37 PM (/3v/C)

_____________________

Every one of these folks will be using security clearance in the very near future to present their responses to the next IG report on the FISA Warrants. My guess is that Trump wants some control over their actions in that regard.

Posted by: Orson at July 24, 2018 06:40 PM (PB5mZ)

241 You want Kate Upton sitting on your face.

You'd settle for Meagan McCain.

You'll get Joy Behar.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 24, 2018 06:40 PM (oVJmc)

242 223:

"Do we know for a fact that comey still has his clearance?"


I'm basing it solely on Sanders' statement.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 24, 2018 06:40 PM (xUB72)

243 But the offer still stands

Posted by: Mega at July 24, 2018 06:40 PM (uEbPt)

244 There are also public policy reasons that former intel leaders remain cleared--so they can help their successors.
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Or 'help' Intel Committees in the Senate? No, thank you.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 24, 2018 06:41 PM (MIKMs)

245 Crap. Off, sock!

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at July 24, 2018 06:41 PM (/3v/C)

246 I don't know if this is male thing or just an "ace" thing, but I have never had anyone sit on my face, and I wouldn't want anyone sitting on my face, no matter how gorgeous they are. Nope! Nope! Nope!

Sometimes this is an excessively odd place. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2018 06:41 PM (AllCR)

247 1. Historically, very senior level intelligence officials kept their clearances in order to serve on 'grey beard' advisory panels that meet once or twice a year to provide advice on major intelligence or policy matters. These guys have forfeited the right to sit on such panels due to their overt political bias and misuse of their access.

2. 'Talking around' classified is specifically prohibited by public law and departmental regulations. It is never a defense for a charge of revealing classified information. Any E-1 with a clearance knows this.

Posted by: jy at July 24, 2018 06:41 PM (Gwq+a)

248
Trump paid Stormy?
I take back my vote!
j/k

Posted by: Emmie at July 24, 2018 06:39 PM (u5Rkx)


The dumbshit could've made 30 million off of Kate Upton

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 24, 2018 06:41 PM (10vO4)

249 Help I might have to start eating at Wendy's!

*rattles cup*

-John Brennan

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 24, 2018 06:42 PM (4ErVI)

250 239. All men die - not all men truly live.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 24, 2018 06:42 PM (fA1SL)

251 So late to this thread, but " ...if Trump needs to call them....".... ahahahahahahahahah... deep breath...ahahahahahahah...

Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 06:43 PM (DpEis)

252 Sebastian Gorka also mentions Powers as a possible security clearance wipe out.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 06:43 PM (pHfeF)

253 I find it truly frightening when I see the look in the eyes of people like Strozk and Brennan and Clapper and Yates and Comey and all the rest. There is a deluded fanaticism there that is chilling. These are the kinds of hard core believers that would have been perfectly comfortable setting up concentration camps for their enemies. These are the kinds of people that populated the Einsatzgruppen.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 06:43 PM (RRchO)

254 207 Jen Rubin really is nuts isn't she?
Posted by: steevy at July 24, 2018 06:28 PM (LiyEm)

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Nope. Just a well-compensated whore.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 24, 2018 06:29 PM (AzW6q)

No f-ing way. She'd have to be hot. Or at least look like a girl.

Posted by: George LeS at July 24, 2018 06:44 PM (59GGI)

255 At the meeting in Helsinki, Finland, between Presidents Putin of Russia and Trump of the USA, the Russians gave to Trump at least 160 TERABYTES of Russian Intelligence Intercepts which expose horrifying activities of many, many, people to deliberately foment social, cultural, and political chaos, violent riots, demonstrations, media smears, phony scandals, and fake news.

Posted by: SMOD at July 24, 2018 06:44 PM (q7oNT)

256 Keep talking that way about Kate and I'm gonna see how well you guys dodge a four-seam fastball.

Posted by: Justin Verlander at July 24, 2018 06:45 PM (59GGI)

257 246

Sometimes this is an excessively odd place. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2018 06:41 PM (AllCR)

Well... sometimes.... I think people get caught up in the moment.... and some things are a whole lot better in the concept, than in the reality...

Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 06:46 PM (DpEis)

258 255 At the meeting in Helsinki, Finland, between Presidents Putin of Russia and Trump of the USA, the Russians gave to Trump at least 160 TERABYTES of Russian Intelligence Intercepts which expose horrifying activities of many, many, people to deliberately foment social, cultural, and political chaos, violent riots, demonstrations, media smears, phony scandals, and fake news.

Posted by: SMOD at July 24, 2018 06:44 PM (q7oNT)

From Hal Turner.

Who's his source?

Color me skeptical.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 24, 2018 06:46 PM (4ErVI)

259 If you can dodge a wrench you dodge a fastball...

Posted by: steevy at July 24, 2018 06:46 PM (LiyEm)

260 I would like to take a poll of the 'ettes? Does the idea of any handsome studly guy sitting on your face appeal to you?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2018 06:46 PM (AllCR)

261 None of the normal considerations apply to any of those possibly about to lose their courtesy clearances.


Assemble all of them in a room (what is it, 5?).


In a thousand years, it wouldn't cross my mind to ask for views or advice from *any* of them, on any serious topic. Obviously.


Brennan? Rice? Doofus Clapper? Psycho vastly over-promoted asst. DA Comey? Are you kidding?


Forget their character problems and in some cases mental stability problems. Just their intellectual mediocrity. None of these people could ever have worked for me as research assistants, much less be given responsible positions.


Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2018 06:46 PM (QDnY+)

262 255. Yes. I've heard that as well, but only from one source. I'm not 100% on the story. I do think the pants-shitting behavior around that meeting is sufficient evidence that for whatever reasons, the DS didn't want them to meet in private, and are desperate to know what was discussed. It's interesting.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 24, 2018 06:46 PM (fA1SL)

263 In the explanation today it needs to be renewed every 5 years, my guess is it is easier to renew than to start over in paperwork,interviews and record investigations

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 06:47 PM (pHfeF)

264 >241 You want Kate Upton sitting on your face.

You'd settle for Meagan McCain.

You'll get Joy Behar.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 24,



Gaaaaah! That was uncalled for.



*reaches for brain bleach*

Posted by: Muad'dib at July 24, 2018 06:47 PM (V4Cgg)

265 guy on Levin discussing FDR commies and Ted Kennedy's commie network.

Posted by: kallisto at July 24, 2018 06:47 PM (mn0Jm)

266 259 If you can dodge a wrench you dodge a fastball...
Posted by: steevy at July 24, 2018 06:46 PM (LiyEm)

Dodging wenches is a skill that guys need to learn early on...

Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 06:47 PM (DpEis)

267 Richard Burr is a turncoat fucking deep state asshole

Posted by: It's me donna at July 24, 2018 06:47 PM (O2RFr)

268 In Case Trump Calls Up Them to Advise Him
Eliminating all the wrong answers early is a valuable but junior level service. Not even a trimming from The Mustache let alone the GSW.

Posted by: DaveA at July 24, 2018 06:47 PM (FhXTo)

269 'Does the idea of any handsome studly guy sitting on your face appeal to you?'

Anythings got to be better than this!

Posted by: guy with Lena on his face at July 24, 2018 06:48 PM (UdKB7)

270 and some things are a whole lot better in the concept, than in the reality...
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 06:46 PM (DpEis)

LOL. Ooooookay. I have never been "caught up in the moment" to that extent." I have not been the sittee or the sat upon. It sounds very uncomfortable .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2018 06:48 PM (AllCR)

271 Does the idea of any handsome studly guy sitting on your face appeal to you?'


No, but I'm sure it appeals to the sittee...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 24, 2018 06:49 PM (O2RFr)

272 I find it truly frightening when I see the look in the eyes of people like Strozk and Brennan and Clapper and Yates and Comey and all the rest. There is a deluded fanaticism there that is chilling. These are the kinds of hard core believers that would have been perfectly comfortable setting up concentration camps for their enemies. These are the kinds of people that populated the Einsatzgruppen.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 06:43 PM (RRchO)

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Yeah, this. They all, every one of them have the arrogant, defiant Lois Lerner chin in the air contempt in their demeanor. Like, "How dare you question ME, peasant?!".

They must think they have some kind of a divine right to breal all the rules in order to get what they want.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 24, 2018 06:49 PM (b3Pum)

273 There's no reason for these guys to have clearances if they no longer hold jobs which require them to have clearances. They should have been debriefed and read out of the programs to which they had access the minute they left those jobs. If for any reason Trump wanted to consult them on anything classified (not likely), the clearances could be turned on again by a paper action as long as everything was current.

Yank 'em.

Posted by: bluebell at July 24, 2018 06:49 PM (JJZzu)

274 Kate Upton is pregnant, but then again ace would be getting paid 30 million.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 24, 2018 06:49 PM (ue+Wr)

275 Richard Burr is a turncoat fucking deep state asshole
Posted by: It's me donna at July 24, 2018 06:47 PM (O2RFr)

Are there any Senators who aren't?

Posted by: Surfperch at July 24, 2018 06:50 PM (A59VO)

276 Richard Burr is a turncoat fucking deep state asshole
Posted by: It's me donna at July 24, 2018 06:47 PM (O2RFr)

He was good in "Ironside" though.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2018 06:50 PM (EoRCO)

277 Even if Putin had terabytes of dirt on prominent people here, why would he hand it over? They can use that to run all sorts of nefarious operations and blackmail schemes.

It doesn't make sense.

Unless you think Putin and Trump have joined up in some holy crusade to take down the Deep State and the Pedophile Rings.

That last point is what people in certain corners think. The Q people believe it.

I seriously doubt it, but hey I'd love to be surprised.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 24, 2018 06:50 PM (4ErVI)

278 >>>Why has Trump not yanked them? Why tweet out saying they should be yanked, and not do it?

What game is he playing?



He's the kid with a magnifying glass tormenting ants.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at July 24, 2018 06:50 PM (bML9A)

279 This phone's speech-to-text is atrocious

Posted by: Dime 333 at July 24, 2018 06:51 PM (aR6C/)

280 Dodging wenches is a skill that guys need to learn early on...
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 06:47 PM (DpEis)

Go back to San Francisco, pansy.

Posted by: George LeS at July 24, 2018 06:51 PM (59GGI)

281 LGoPs, 2nd time this week I've had occasion to make this odd historical note.


Correct, there's a weirdness to most of these people (Rice is just dim, no fanaticism in her look, and Clapper seems like the guy who got hired because he's the owner's nephew or something). But for *leaders* of the Einsatzgruppen, oddly enough, Heydrich seemed to prize academic achievement and other sorts of tangible credentials. Several highly intelligent/educated - but obviously monstrously evil - guys in his line-up.


Brennan seems seriously deranged, though. Someone noted today that one of his tweets must have been ghost-written, completely lacked his sound and style. I mean, apart from the absence of the digital equivalents of spittle flecks and broken chairs that have marked his recent fulminations.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2018 06:52 PM (QDnY+)

282 The radio discussion brought up Clapped and Brennan calling for a Presidential change is very susceptible to being turned or doing something harmful to the administration.

Posted by: Skip at July 24, 2018 06:52 PM (pHfeF)

283 276 Richard Burr is a turncoat fucking deep state asshole
Posted by: It's me donna at July 24, 2018 06:47 PM (O2RFr)

He was good in "Ironside" though.....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2018 06:50 PM (EoRCO)

Don't forget Godzilla.

(I'm amazed that people here are so young that the first show that comes to mind is Ironside. Not Perry Mason.)

Posted by: George LeS at July 24, 2018 06:52 PM (59GGI)

284 Eliminate with extreme prejudice.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2018 06:53 PM (Evws/)

285 270 and some things are a whole lot better in the concept, than in the reality...
Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 06:46 PM (DpEis)

LOL. Ooooookay. I have never been "caught up in the moment" to that extent." I have not been the sittee or the sat upon. It sounds very uncomfortable .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2018 06:48 PM (AllCR)


I found that, in my reprobate years, that a number of " things" that the Cool Kids touted turned out to be not so good in practice.... but " live and learn" as they say. I ill say that sex with Craaazy" is never a good plan...

Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 06:53 PM (DpEis)

286 Trump will revoke the security Clearence then some idiot judge from Hawaii block his move in the name of Diversity and the World Community

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at July 24, 2018 06:53 PM (wGqjj)

287
221 Richard Burr is a very handsome man.

Posted by: Rick Wilson at July 24, 2018 06:33 PM (r9UYA)

With ugly weapons grade Aaron Burr morality.

Posted by: Dispassionate Observer at July 24, 2018 06:53 PM (e1mEI)

288 Ace has been spot on about the following... Whatever they are claiming the other side is doing wrong, they've done themselves at some worse level.

Exhibit A)https://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/government-security-clearance-list-100195

Posted by: Skinner Vic at July 24, 2018 06:53 PM (nbwH3)

289 FYI, Kate is pregnant.

Posted by: Justen Verlander's Penis at July 24, 2018 06:53 PM (ALj3k)

290 Have they finished incriminating themselves?

Posted by: DaveA at July 24, 2018 06:54 PM (FhXTo)

291 What game is he playing?



He's the kid with a magnifying glass tormenting ants.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at July 24, 2018 06:50 PM (bML9A)

There's definitely something being floated their though. Out of the blue Rand Paul comes out saying he's going to visit the WH and request Brennan loses it and then Sarah expands it to other people in the cabal.

Watch all of a sudden we see a massive number of leaks.

They wouldn't be that stupid, would they?

Welllllll....

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 24, 2018 06:54 PM (4ErVI)

292 Is credulousness a marketable skill these days?

I just came from a Twitter thread where the poster simply underlines lines out of the FISA application in red as documentation for Carter Page assisting the Russians for hacking DNC emails.

Posted by: Axeman at July 24, 2018 06:54 PM (vDqXW)

293 Has Trump ever said who it was that recommended Rosenstein and Wray to him? Was it Reince Priebus, or do we just not know?

Posted by: girldog at July 24, 2018 06:55 PM (g5YYQ)

294 63
...about the likelihood that Kate Upton will pay me thirty million dollars to sit on my face

Plan "B" would be motor board Christina Hendricks.
https://tinyurl.com/yb6jhhwd
Posted by: YIKES! at July 24, 2018 05:56 PM (t6XCL)

Motor-boarding is one of the most requested debriefing techniques of mine. That and ear-impreg/oral, .

Posted by: Ali Watkins, NYT Reporter with Great Debriefing Skills at July 24, 2018 06:55 PM (Ta69/)

295 Kate Upton is pregnant, but then again ace would be getting paid 30 million.
----
Duh! That's why the discount from Ace's usual fee of 40-million.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2018 06:56 PM (Evws/)

296 Christina Hendricks.... Mrs. Miller.... memorable...

Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 06:56 PM (DpEis)

297 " FYI, Kate is pregnant"

In a world determined to out-outlandish itself, Ace bring it.

Posted by: freaked at July 24, 2018 06:56 PM (UdKB7)

298 Manafort and Flynn ar wonder why they are the only ones suffering financial penalty with out people being oh so worried about it.


LOL

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 24, 2018 06:56 PM (9dzlp)

299 Trump will revoke the security Clearence then some idiot judge from Hawaii block his move in the name of Diversity and the World Community
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at July 24, 2018 06:53 PM (wGqjj)
---
After all there aren't too many white commie Muslims with a security clearance around. We have to keep the ones we have!

Posted by: Axeman at July 24, 2018 06:56 PM (vDqXW)

300 Nood

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at July 24, 2018 06:57 PM (fA1SL)

301 Jeez ... christina Hendricks.... Mrs. Reynolds... it has been a looong day...

Posted by: kraken at July 24, 2018 06:57 PM (DpEis)

302 You dream of Kate Upton sitting on your face. You will get Yoko Ono sitting on your face and screaming.
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at July 24, 2018 06:38 PM (a0IVu)

At that angle, you can't really tell who's sitting on your face, can you?

Martha Raddatz or Shep Smith could be sitting on ace's face for all he knows. He only has to pretend it's Kate Upton.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 24, 2018 06:57 PM (/qEW2)

303 Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2018 06:52 PM (QDnY+)

-+----

They called Dzherzinsky "Iron Feliks." Hitler said Heydrich had a "heart of iron."

These were, for all the evil, hard and intelligent men.

Perhaps history's harshest judgment of us will be that the American Republic was brought low by a group of mediocre dimwits, who wouldn't stand out in a crowd of one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 24, 2018 06:58 PM (AeFHV)

304 I find it truly frightening when I see the look in the eyes of people like Strozk and Brennan and Clapper and Yates and Comey and all the rest. There is a deluded fanaticism there that is chilling. These are the kinds of hard core believers that would have been perfectly comfortable setting up concentration camps for their enemies. These are the kinds of people that populated the Einsatzgruppen.


Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 06:43 PM (RRchO)


I was thinking the same thing. These smug assholes think that the rest of this country is full of rubes who need these fucking "geniuses" to lead them around. If they had the power they would have no problems sending us off to the camps. Fuck them in particular...

Posted by: Timon at July 24, 2018 06:58 PM (7Rpy3)

305 Help I might have to start eating at Wendy's!



*rattles cup*



-John Brennan
--

Don't worry, I'll start us a go fund me page!

-James Comey

Posted by: shibumi at July 24, 2018 06:58 PM (AHNMM)

306 I don't think I've ever taken advice from people I know loathe me and pretty much loathe the US. Why would Trump?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2018 06:58 PM (AllCR)

307 "But you could not, I think, be prosecuted under the Espionage Act for
giving classified information to those not cleared to see it. The whole
point of security clearances is that having one means you are authorized, generally, to see such information."
No, Ace, you're wrong. There is **ALWAYS** the requirement for "need to know". If they don't have a damn good reason to know the *specific* information you're telling them, then you've still broken the classification regs. Period.
And, given these guys have NOT been called in to consult on a specific incident/problem, they *DO NOT* have a need to know.
Now, as to whether anyone will be prosecuted? Pfft. Because these folks are top men. Top. Men.

Posted by: GWB at July 24, 2018 06:58 PM (IQ1ew)

308 253 I find it truly frightening when I see the look in the eyes of people like Strozk and Brennan and Clapper and Yates and Comey and all the rest. There is a deluded fanaticism there that is chilling. These are the kinds of hard core believers that would have been perfectly comfortable setting up concentration camps for their enemies. These are the kinds of people that populated the Einsatzgruppen.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 24, 2018 06:43 PM (RRchO)

If the Left ever gets back into power, they will do exactly that. I have no doubt. They truly hate us.

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2018 07:01 PM (sdi6R)

309
California is the country's largest auto-market, so car manufacturers just build for California. It would be more costly to set up factories to produce some cars that are California-legal and some others that are legal everywhere else. So the waiver permits California to essentially set the nation's car-exhaust policies.


California also requires a special blend for gasoline

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at July 24, 2018 07:02 PM (10vO4)

310 That's funny. I have a security clearance, and I was repeatedly assured that it would help me with getting civilian employment. HAH! And even in those few cases where I have been hired by a civilian employer, they still run their own background checks, even though I have one done FOR them.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at July 24, 2018 07:02 PM (rlQwD)

311 Too much content...

Fvck 'em, pull their clearances.

Posted by: socalcon at July 24, 2018 07:03 PM (Roy2Z)

312 309 California also requires a special blend for gasoline
~~~
And one for Spring/Summer and another for Fall/Winter.

FFS, there is only 2 seasons in SoCal: Summer and Rain (2 weeks in February).

Posted by: socalcon at July 24, 2018 07:06 PM (Roy2Z)

313


I agree that these clowns need to have their clerances revoked. But
there's no way they can legally receive classified information, even if
their clearances are still there, without that "need to know," which
they definitely don't have.

Posted by: Taylor at July 24, 2018 05:56 PM (fEOrt)

So what you are saying is that PDT is just nut punching for the LOLs

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 24, 2018 07:06 PM (9dzlp)

314 Lets also remeber the news babe who literally watched her computer get hacked while the whole Benghazi shit was go___.. Attkinson or something?

Just like Islam, these sons of b****** have been at war with us and have declared openly as such. Why are faggety ass GOP can't seem to locate its testicles and backup and actual conservative president for once in their miserable lives is beyond me.

Posted by: Dime 333 at July 24, 2018 07:07 PM (aR6C/)

315 305 Help I might have to start eating at Wendy's!

Next time someone asks, "Where's the Beef!"
Remember, "It's in Wendy's buns!"

My fellow stoneagers will get this one.

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at July 24, 2018 07:07 PM (6ksbU)

316 Screw their clearances. Take their freedom.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at July 24, 2018 07:07 PM (guOXV)

317 Sarah Sanders gets asked a follow-up about the security clearances, she
should give an update of additional names, including Yates, and keep
adding names each time the question is asked.

Rolling dice and then looking up a list.

Posted by: DaveA at July 24, 2018 07:11 PM (FhXTo)

318 You have to have two things to gain access to classified material.
1. The proper level clearance
2. A need to know

If you are not in active service you have no need to know, therefore the clearance by itself is nothing more than a talking point. When I retired from the US Navy I had held a Secret clearance for nineteen years (no need to have one in the first year because I was in boot camp and tech schools), but as soon as I was on separation leave my clearance was put on administrative hold. No reason for this not to happen to anyone else who is not in active service as well.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 24, 2018 07:11 PM (vbvxt)

319 I would think that the President could grant anyone
immediate clearance if needed, and if he needed advice from these
jerkwads, he should have his clearance revoked... I know he can't,
but...

Posted by: RobInKaty at July 24, 2018 05:49 PM (hQb6B)


Comey and crew effectively revoked the President's security clearance when they made the decision to hide information on Russia/Hillary?everything else they didn't want to talk to him about after he took office.

Their attempted coup was treasonous.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at July 24, 2018 07:20 PM (imSgd)

320 hey Brennan. it beats two in the dome so quit yer bitchin

Posted by: x at July 24, 2018 07:22 PM (nFwvY)

321 "...and quite a bit of national security downside to letting them keep them, it's time to terminate the clearances."

And then assign a stint in federal PMITA prison.

That would be just.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 24, 2018 07:28 PM (6eEQ+)

322 as the President's executive authority is the authority behind all national security classification, denying anything to the president is sedition. likewise, he should be able to declassify whatever. in any case, we taxpayers paid for the clearance effort. a majority of us voted (in states not full of illegal voters) for the Obama sycophants to go away

Posted by: TANSTAASFL at July 24, 2018 07:31 PM (Wa5hI)

323 Along with the requirement for the recipient of classified information be cleared to the appropriate level to view the information is also the requirement that the person needs to know the information.
Brennan might be cleared but he doesn't need to know the information that he is passed by a leaker.

Posted by: Max Entropy at July 24, 2018 07:31 PM (ur/Uv)

324 Just because you have a "clearance" does not mean you have a need to know. (standard OPSEC)

Posted by: Eric (the OC Tanker) at July 24, 2018 07:31 PM (P8UvY)

325 Chick-fil-A will soon ask Atlanta customers to test a totally new concept for the brand. Mealtime Kits, which launch at 150 restaurants across the Atlanta area beginning August 27, are designed to make it easy for customers to cook their own meals at home using fresh, pre-measured ingredients they can pick up in the drive-thru, at the front counter, or via the Chick-fil-A One app.

Posted by: SMOD at July 24, 2018 07:35 PM (q7oNT)

326 I'd like to see Ace write on the Gunn thing, with David French defending Gunn. I don't know why French would defend baby rape joke, the WHOLE POINT of the baby rape jokes is to offend people like David French. It's not like anybody thinks "baby rape" and laughs about it. On Last Comic Standing it was immediate dismissal if your joke was about rape etc because rape is not funny. So why exactly is French defending Gunn and not Roseanne? Because it's conservative Stockholm Syndrome, they've started to identify with their kidnappers.

Posted by: bjstuggzzz at July 24, 2018 08:13 PM (e44Qj)

327 "293 Has Trump ever said who it was that recommended Rosenstein and Wray to him? Was it Reince Priebus, or do we just not know?"

This is a GREAT point and one that needs to be fleshed out. Go back and review the clips of Rosenstein's confirmation. He is ushered to the confirmation hearing by fellow Marylander Steny Hoyer and receives praises from a lot of those who expected a coup to succeed. Now I don't know who recommended him (ditto Wray), but I do know who wanted him. They weren't our best. This was a set-up from the go but it didn't work out as planned. That's largely due to Trump's native cunning and fab instincts, not due to the people who were/are around him.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 24, 2018 09:25 PM (xUB72)

328 There is one case in which President Trump might want the valuable advice of these dedicated professionals.

H

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 24, 2018 10:35 PM (Ndje9)

329 He might need their advice if he decides that they and their #NeverTrump allies are correct in their assertions that a president has the right, even the duty, to spy on his political opponents.

Unmaskings. Classified Leaks to friendly media Letting "independent contractors" rummage through NSA files for opposition research. Wiretapping. Manufacturing Dizinformation Dossiers. Planting spies in campaigns.

He might need Brennan, Comey and Clapper's advice on how to rig an election. And he'll even win back the support of Cap'n Kristol. Let's see if Billy really prefers the Deep State then.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 24, 2018 10:47 PM (Ndje9)

330 "But you could not, I think, be prosecuted under the Espionage Act for giving classified information to those not cleared to see it. The whole point of security clearances is that having one means you are authorized, generally, to see such information."


Only if you have a need-to-know.

Posted by: nraendowment at July 25, 2018 05:17 PM (gWdhG)

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