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Sunday Morning Book Thread 07-15-2018
Folio Library, Seattle, Washington
Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Oh, and we've got a new category of readers, escaped oafs and oafettes ('escaped oafs' is an anagram of 'Ace of Spades'). Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which are so ugly, they're actually advertised as such.
Pic Note Folio Library is an independent, nonprofit membership library located in Pike Place Market in Seattle,
...with a collection of around 20,000 books and memberships starting at $125 a year, with lower student and youth rates. Previously located farther south in the downtown YMCA building—closer to the downtown Seattle Public Library branch—it reopens in the market’s Economy Building at First Avenue and Pike Street with views of Elliott Bay on July 9.Seattle also has a social justice library, set up by Edwin Lindo, a University of Washington law school professor and "lifelong activist" ( *eyeroll* ):
The ADA-accessible facility will include three reading rooms and a kitchen, plus a public lobby where everyone, member or not, can browse some of the collection. Those who are visiting and want to explore a little deeper can buy daily or weekly memberships for $5 or $15, respectively.
Edwin is so dedicated to creating a space for conversation that Estelita’s doesn’t even have WiFi so people can stay engaged without getting distracted. In the future, Edwin said he hopes the library can host lectures, history lessons, poetry performances, and a book club.A space for "conversations." Right. I'm sure he's interested in any opinion, be it left, wacko left, or really wacko left. I wonder if he would be open to a series of lectures on why the only solution to 3rd-world poverty is a free-market economy with minimal governmental regulations? Or, if Molly DeVos wanted to speak on education, would "lifelong activist" Lindo even allow her inside his library? Because the left is all about "having conversations." (h/t Three and One)
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Bleg There was a request last week for a book on a topic that interested me enough to turn it into a blog. A moron is look for a book, either fiction or non-fiction that:
Portray(s) the Northern Ireland "Troubles" of the 1960s-1990s in [an accurate] manner? The reason I ask is that of late I'm beginning to think that if there is an American Civil War 2.0, that's what it's going to be like -- not so much military movements, fronts, big battles, entire cities being cut off, etc. as it is an endless series of bombings, riots, assassinations, and other small-scale stuff in which a lot of innocent people get caught.I remember an Irish guy commenting on the difficuly in piecing together all of the disparate elements of the low-level war between Northern Ireland and England into an accurate picture by saying, "if you're not totally confused by the Troubles, you don't really know what's going on." That's pretty "Zen" for an Irish guy, but they drink a lot, so there you go. Anyway, near as I can understand, there are (or were) a number of different Irish groups fighting the British, buit they couldn't agree on goals or methods. And they all seemed to hate each other as much as they hated the British. That's the extent of my knowledge. So do any of you morons have recommendations?
Posted by: Secret Square at July 08, 2018 12:32 PM (9WuX0)
Moron Recommendations More than one of you morons recommended Susan Wittig Albert's Beatrix Potter mysteries. There are a total of 8 novels in this series. The first one is The Tale of Hill Top Farm:
The author of Peter Rabbit and other tales, Beatrix Potter is still, after a century, beloved by children and adults worldwide. In this first Cottage Tale, Albert introduces Beatrix, an animal lover and Good Samaritan with a knack for solving mysteries. With help from her entourage of talking animal friends, Beatrix sets out to win over the human hearts of Sawrey, where she's just bought an old farm--and plans to stay.This is how moron JTB describes the series:
Charming is the word that most people use and I agree. As I continue to read it, I see more and more Tolkien and Shire aspects in it. That may not be deliberate by Albert since it is based in an area and time that Tolkien clearly loved. To double check my impression, I re-read the Shire parts in LOTR, both the early chapters before things got serious and the concluding chapters of Return of the King. That similarity is very appealing to me. I was surprised none of the Amazon reviews mentioned it.Susan Wittig Albert is a prolific author who has written many mysteries. ___________
Posted by: JTB at July 08, 2018 09:43 AM (V+03K)
Books By Morons Moron author Caliban wants you to know about his novel Starstruck, a romantic comedy which was published a few months ago:
Jim Wilmot is confused. A beautiful, mysterious maiden has fallen into his lap—literally! It isn’t clear what Karen has in mind, but he can’t help hoping it is love.Also available in paperback for $11.95. ___________ One of Elisabeth Wolfe's short stories will be published in a new fantasy anthology, Of Myths & Men: An Anthology
Meanwhile the girl who loves him beyond any shadow of a doubt has gotten tired of waiting and decides to move on. He’s shocked when Erin is cold to him and even more shocked when she becomes engaged to one of his best friends.
It turns out Karen has an astonishing secret, which Jim is the last one to know. He realizes what he really wants just when it seems impossible to get it.
But then a terrible accident changes everything...
We think of magical creatures as being superhuman in every way. Their problems fascinate us because they are beyond anything we could possibly deal with ourselves.Teasers for the stories are available on the Witty Word Press Facebook page. For example, here is one for the story Ms. Wolfe co-wrote with Enola G. Freeman, titled The Holly Bears the Crown:
But behind the super strength, extraordinary abilities, and fantastical back stories, these mythical beings have struggles and trials that are remarkably unremarkable.
Join us in discovering the humanity that beats in the hearts of these non-human creatures.
Frank Ross might seem like any other young man who’s struggling to care for a disabled sibling on low pay in a bad economy. But Frank’s in a bigger pickle than most: his brother Toby bears the stigmata, the marks of Christ’s Crucifixion, and bleeds in the presence of evil. When white supremacists riot in their neighborhood, Toby lands in the hospital alongside the best friend he’s never met and her three flatmates, all of whom are prophets. Yet this one day of intense suffering may bring all six of them a happy ending none of them have foreseen.
Available for Kindle $4.99 pre-order. It will be automatically delivered to purchasers' devices on July 21st.
___________ Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde. ___________ So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm. What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 08:58 AM (gUCYC)
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Currently doing a re-read of the Legacy
of Aldenata series by John Ringo. On book three now. This was
probably his best series and it was his first.
Currently doing a re-read of the Legacy
of Aldenata series by John Ringo. On book three now. This was
probably his best series and it was his first.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 08:58 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:01 AM (y87Qq)
Posted by: BignJames at July 15, 2018 09:02 AM (0+nbW)
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Just finished the eighth book in the Flavia de Luce mystery series, “Thrice the Brindled Cat Hath Mewed”. Alan Bradley has only gotten better over time.
I love that Flavia is so unrepentant. “As the train rolled through the winter landscape, I reflected on what a true stick Dogger was. As an old soldier, nothing surprised him. He had quite willingly taught me how to palm the queen of spades when playing Black Lady with Feely and Daffy, and he had not begged off when I asked him to help me extract, for a practical joke involving Feely’s Eau de Violet scent, certain of the volatile terpines from the caudal gland of a dead badger I had found in the woods.”
I love that Flavia is so unrepentant. “As the train rolled through the winter landscape, I reflected on what a true stick Dogger was. As an old soldier, nothing surprised him. He had quite willingly taught me how to palm the queen of spades when playing Black Lady with Feely and Daffy, and he had not begged off when I asked him to help me extract, for a practical joke involving Feely’s Eau de Violet scent, certain of the volatile terpines from the caudal gland of a dead badger I had found in the woods.”
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 09:03 AM (gUCYC)
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Lindo's whatever library, the whole SJW thing aside, sounds like it's not much interested in books since it appears that having a book club is more of an aside than an actual goal.
Call me crazy, but, I'd think book club and library should go hand in hand.
Call me crazy, but, I'd think book club and library should go hand in hand.
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 15, 2018 09:05 AM (WEBkv)
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Anyway, near as I can understand, there are (or were) a number of different Irish groups fighting the British, buit they couldn't agree on goals or methods. And they all seemed to hate each other as much as they hated the British.
That seems a common factor in the history, not just of Ireland, but of the Celts of the British Isles generally. Whenever they had a chance to unite to resist England, they seem to have preferred settling old scores instead. (I don't know if this is true of the Bretons. Does anyone here have some knowledge?)
That seems a common factor in the history, not just of Ireland, but of the Celts of the British Isles generally. Whenever they had a chance to unite to resist England, they seem to have preferred settling old scores instead. (I don't know if this is true of the Bretons. Does anyone here have some knowledge?)
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 09:06 AM (59GGI)
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Folio Library, Seattle, Washington
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Thank heavens. If it was a Moron Library, I would have abandoned all hope of ever submitting a pic.
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Thank heavens. If it was a Moron Library, I would have abandoned all hope of ever submitting a pic.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2018 09:06 AM (rYk7m)
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Re-reading the first 2 Monster Hunter Memoirs before I read the new third book that just came out. I like to read easy stuff that doesn't take itself too seriously. This falls in that category along with the zombie apocalypse stuff I also like to read.
Posted by: lin-duh at July 15, 2018 09:07 AM (kufk0)
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Thank heavens. If it was a Moron Library, I would have abandoned all hope of ever submitting a pic.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2018 09:06 AM (rYk7m)
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Pic submitted must have HammerCat in it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2018 09:06 AM (rYk7m)
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Pic submitted must have HammerCat in it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 09:07 AM (gUCYC)
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The book hostel looks kind of cool but, trying to sleep in something that closed in? Yeah, no.
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 15, 2018 09:08 AM (WEBkv)
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Peter Rabbit's father met with a tragic pie accident.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2018 09:08 AM (rYk7m)
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Good Sunday Morning Horde!
This week I started studying the Catechism of the Catholic Church put out by the USCCB. It is illuminating what the official[b/] teachings of the church are and what is many times claimed by bishops and priests.
What is stated about immigration and refugees is very interesting for example. Hint: it is required they adopt the rules, both legal and societal, of the new land. Illegal breaching of borders - no bueno.
(My hands only burn a little when I handle it.)
This week I started studying the Catechism of the Catholic Church put out by the USCCB. It is illuminating what the official[b/] teachings of the church are and what is many times claimed by bishops and priests.
What is stated about immigration and refugees is very interesting for example. Hint: it is required they adopt the rules, both legal and societal, of the new land. Illegal breaching of borders - no bueno.
(My hands only burn a little when I handle it.)
Posted by: tonypete at July 15, 2018 09:08 AM (9rIkM)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 09:09 AM (gUCYC)
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Thank heavens. If it was a Moron Library, I would have abandoned all hope of ever submitting a pic.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2018 09:06 AM (rYk7m)
I've got an empty room that doesn't look that un-cluttered.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2018 09:06 AM (rYk7m)
I've got an empty room that doesn't look that un-cluttered.
Posted by: BignJames at July 15, 2018 09:09 AM (0+nbW)
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I had pretty much stopped reading books, I started reading children books to my then 6th month old.
I couldn't hack reading goodnight moon for the 100th time so I switched over to reading classics like F451 and Don Quixote.
I figure he as no idea what anything means at this stage so I might as well entertain myself.
I couldn't hack reading goodnight moon for the 100th time so I switched over to reading classics like F451 and Don Quixote.
I figure he as no idea what anything means at this stage so I might as well entertain myself.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 15, 2018 09:10 AM (UfMVm)
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That book hostel is great. It has books, beds, a full bar and everything.
But that kind of describes my "hostel" too, plus pants are optional.
But that kind of describes my "hostel" too, plus pants are optional.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 09:11 AM (gUCYC)
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What does the Hostel do if two customers decide to have what we now call "a romantic relationship" in one of the cubicles?
And are the Dunhams of the world going to sue or protest the fact that those cubicles are so designed that they discriminate against people of girth?
It's all very problematic.
And are the Dunhams of the world going to sue or protest the fact that those cubicles are so designed that they discriminate against people of girth?
It's all very problematic.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 09:11 AM (59GGI)
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That seems a common factor in the history, not just of Ireland, but of the Celts of the British Isles generally.
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"The Irish are a fair people - they never speak well of one another" - Dr. Samuel Johnson
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"The Irish are a fair people - they never speak well of one another" - Dr. Samuel Johnson
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2018 09:12 AM (nhAAH)
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Throw some scraps in the barrel please.
Posted by: tonypete at July 15, 2018 09:13 AM (9rIkM)
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Literally the only people of girth in Japan are Sumo wrestlers...that's it. Not hyperbole or exaggeration.
Posted by: lin-duh at July 15, 2018 09:13 AM (kufk0)
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I read Bold Sons of Erin by Owen Parry. This is the sixth book in the Abel Jones series. In this, Major Jones is sent by President Lincoln to his home county of Schuylkill, PA, to investigate the murder of a Union general. To solve the case, Abel becomes involved with Irish miners and a witch or two. This is a very good mystery, and, as a bonus, the book ends with a description of the horrors of the Battle of Fredericksburg.
I also read SPQR XI: Under Vesuvius. Decius Metellus travels south from Rome to Campania as praetor peregrinus . It's his job to hear cases involving foreigners; and he's expecting a year's vacation with little work and pleanty of time to enjoy the sun, good food and excellent wines in the rich coastal town of Baiae. Then the murdered bodies begin to stack up and Decius must unravel the mystery and find the killer.
I also read SPQR XI: Under Vesuvius. Decius Metellus travels south from Rome to Campania as praetor peregrinus . It's his job to hear cases involving foreigners; and he's expecting a year's vacation with little work and pleanty of time to enjoy the sun, good food and excellent wines in the rich coastal town of Baiae. Then the murdered bodies begin to stack up and Decius must unravel the mystery and find the killer.
Posted by: Zoltan at July 15, 2018 09:13 AM (HLy+M)
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So do any of you morons have recommendations?
Trinity by Leon Uris is the only one I can think of .
Trinity by Leon Uris is the only one I can think of .
Posted by: JT at July 15, 2018 09:13 AM (ucxQn)
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We're hanging up pictures this weekend, so I should be able to send in photos of our library. It's constantly in use, so there may be some of Pookette's books scattered on the floor. 
Posted by: pookysgirl at July 15, 2018 09:13 AM (XKZwp)
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"Edwin is so dedicated to creating a space for conversation that Estelita's doesn't even have WiFi so people can stay engaged without getting distracted."
Oh. Sure thing, boss. That's why my bookstore doesn't have electricity most days, too. Weeds out the casuals. Totally intentional.
Oh. Sure thing, boss. That's why my bookstore doesn't have electricity most days, too. Weeds out the casuals. Totally intentional.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:13 AM (y87Qq)
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Howdy, Horde.
This week I read Boca Mournings, the "wacky Florida" tale of a retired Jewish Boston cop, by Steven Forman. It was surprisingly good. It's the second offering in a trilogy (which I didn't know going in).
I included the religious reference because Forman notes the heavy Jewish presence in Boca Raton and also brings in Jewish history WRT one of the characters in the Aryan Army.
The author has an excellent ear for dialogue and could be a member of the Horde as well as the Tribe.
This week I read Boca Mournings, the "wacky Florida" tale of a retired Jewish Boston cop, by Steven Forman. It was surprisingly good. It's the second offering in a trilogy (which I didn't know going in).
I included the religious reference because Forman notes the heavy Jewish presence in Boca Raton and also brings in Jewish history WRT one of the characters in the Aryan Army.
The author has an excellent ear for dialogue and could be a member of the Horde as well as the Tribe.
Posted by: SandyCheeks at July 15, 2018 09:14 AM (ihzOe)
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Folio library gets overrun by drug addicts and homeless in 3...2...
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2018 09:14 AM (0tfLf)
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20 Throw some scraps in the barrel please.
Posted by: tonypete at July 15, 2018 09:13 AM (9rIkM)
*tosses sugar donut and Red Bull into the barrel*
Posted by: tonypete at July 15, 2018 09:13 AM (9rIkM)
*tosses sugar donut and Red Bull into the barrel*
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2018 09:16 AM (EZebt)
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Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Hope everyone had a fine week of reading to add to our well of knowledge and reinforce our moral qualities.
Posted by: JTB at July 15, 2018 09:17 AM (V+03K)
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Thank heavens. If it was a Moron Library, I would have abandoned all hope of ever submitting a pic.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Indeed.
A couple of books, two comics and an old Readers Digest Plus a bottle of bourbon will probably make the cut.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Indeed.
A couple of books, two comics and an old Readers Digest Plus a bottle of bourbon will probably make the cut.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2018 09:18 AM (0tfLf)
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Local Boy Scout has put up several children's share libraries around town for his Eagle scout thingie. Tried to find the link but nogo on that.
One put up in the hood, another at the handicap playground and I don't where else. 5 or 6 in total I think.
Whether or not they're used or the books are stolen or they become a permanent fixture in town, I say good for him for trying.
One put up in the hood, another at the handicap playground and I don't where else. 5 or 6 in total I think.
Whether or not they're used or the books are stolen or they become a permanent fixture in town, I say good for him for trying.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 09:18 AM (L2Znf)
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Click on the hostel link (Bring Me) and there are lots of suggestions on places to go. One has a chicken fried steak place that serves manta ray-sized CFS - eat it all and it's free.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 09:20 AM (gUCYC)
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Re-reading the first 2 Monster Hunter Memoirs before I read the new third book that just came out. I like to read easy stuff that doesn't take itself too seriously. This falls in that category along with the zombie apocalypse stuff I also like to read.
Posted by: lin-duh at July 15, 2018 09:07 AM (k
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Lin-duh, have you read John Ringo's Black Tide Rising series?
Posted by: lin-duh at July 15, 2018 09:07 AM (k
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Lin-duh, have you read John Ringo's Black Tide Rising series?
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at July 15, 2018 09:20 AM (6RnIb)
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Book nerds!
Posted by: Ogre at July 15, 2018 09:20 AM (5jVnA)
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It's been over a decade and I've got more Brit Lit under my belt, so I thought I'd read LOTR again. Much easier this time than the previous three, so I'm enjoying it.
Posted by: pookysgirl at July 15, 2018 09:21 AM (XKZwp)
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"Anyway, near as I can understand, there are (or were) a number of different Irish groups fighting the British, buit they couldn't agree on goals or methods. And they all seemed to hate each other as much as they hated the British. That's the extent of my knowledge."
Not an expert, but this is way off.
The "Provisional IRA" was by far the dominant force starting in 1969. Although there were splinter groups, there wasn't in-fighting like what you describe.
The Provos saw themselves as the successor to the old IRA which had become redundant in the Republic and which had petered out in the North, but it's not an apt analogy.
A fascinating history could be written about how the Irish nationalist movement continually looked to the United States for inspiration from as far back as 1776. This happened again in the 1960s as the Catholics in the North were inspired by the US black civil rights movement and tried to imitate it. But the Brits and the Ulster Unionists didn't take it well, to put it mildly.
"Bloody Sunday," a flick directed by Brit director Paul Greenglass, shows how the bloody and deadly suppression of a peace movement shifted support to the bomb-throwing Provos.
Not an expert, but this is way off.
The "Provisional IRA" was by far the dominant force starting in 1969. Although there were splinter groups, there wasn't in-fighting like what you describe.
The Provos saw themselves as the successor to the old IRA which had become redundant in the Republic and which had petered out in the North, but it's not an apt analogy.
A fascinating history could be written about how the Irish nationalist movement continually looked to the United States for inspiration from as far back as 1776. This happened again in the 1960s as the Catholics in the North were inspired by the US black civil rights movement and tried to imitate it. But the Brits and the Ulster Unionists didn't take it well, to put it mildly.
"Bloody Sunday," a flick directed by Brit director Paul Greenglass, shows how the bloody and deadly suppression of a peace movement shifted support to the bomb-throwing Provos.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 09:21 AM (pV/54)
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Just about done with "Three Men in a Boat."
I've found the book to be "tediously amusing."
Reading the book, though, makes me wonder if the late Patrick McManus might not have been acquainted with the tales of Mr. Jerome.
I've found the book to be "tediously amusing."
Reading the book, though, makes me wonder if the late Patrick McManus might not have been acquainted with the tales of Mr. Jerome.
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 15, 2018 09:21 AM (WEBkv)
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 09:21 AM (JFO2v)
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Has anybody read The Night Circus by Erin Morgenstern? It was a selection of the book group I'm in and one guy, who knows my tastes pretty well, predicted I'd hate it. I'm sure he based that on a lot of former experiences but he was wrong about this because I'm loving it. It reads like a Robertson Davies book about magic and the strange people who practice it and are around them. It's the first book by the author and she definitely knows what she's doing in terms of telling a story. Someone elsewhere, an author himself, told me the ending is a bit of a letdown, and after the labyrinth she's constructed I can see that closing it down could be problematic, but that won't detract from what she's already done.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 15, 2018 09:22 AM (y7DUB)
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In a 29-page indictment Friday, special counsel Robert Mueller III
blamed specific officers in the Russian government for the 2016 hacking
of Democrats,
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All these lawyers. All these indictments. Zero detailed explanations.
If we had an actual media with actual journalists - I would love for someone to ask any Democrat EXACTLY how they, personally, were "hacked".
And the word "collusion" is not permitted.
blamed specific officers in the Russian government for the 2016 hacking
of Democrats,
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All these lawyers. All these indictments. Zero detailed explanations.
If we had an actual media with actual journalists - I would love for someone to ask any Democrat EXACTLY how they, personally, were "hacked".
And the word "collusion" is not permitted.
Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 15, 2018 09:24 AM (/TNyL)
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That book hostel is obviously designed for anorexic munchkins or 5 year old girls. Who else is going to fit in that so-called opening.
Posted by: JTB at July 15, 2018 09:24 AM (V+03K)
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Vlad the Impaler,
No, This series is the only stuff I've read with Ringo co-writing. I'll look into it when I'm done with the second and third book. Thanks.
No, This series is the only stuff I've read with Ringo co-writing. I'll look into it when I'm done with the second and third book. Thanks.
Posted by: lin-duh at July 15, 2018 09:24 AM (kufk0)
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Working on the second Owen Parry novel - which I had started, misplaced after the book trip to Houston in the spring, and only now resuming.
Trying to get inspired to work a little more on my own Civil War adventure ... sigh. But the Tiny Bidness interferes, and so does necessary work around the house while the Daughter Unit is home.
Trying to get inspired to work a little more on my own Civil War adventure ... sigh. But the Tiny Bidness interferes, and so does necessary work around the house while the Daughter Unit is home.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 15, 2018 09:25 AM (xnmPy)
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33 Lin-duh, have you read John Ringo's Black Tide Rising series?
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at July 15, 2018 09:20 AM (6RnIb)
I have read it, the first book was good but it sorta petered out after that.
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at July 15, 2018 09:20 AM (6RnIb)
I have read it, the first book was good but it sorta petered out after that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 09:25 AM (mpXpK)
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Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 15, 2018 09:21 AM (WEBkv)
I bought it from Amazon because of horde recommendations. Dry Brit humor for sure.
Non spoiler spoiler alert!!!!!!!!!!!
I found the ending disappointing.
I bought it from Amazon because of horde recommendations. Dry Brit humor for sure.
Non spoiler spoiler alert!!!!!!!!!!!
I found the ending disappointing.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 09:25 AM (L2Znf)
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For anyone interested in the ETO in WWII, "If You Survive" by George Wilson is one of the best battle memoirs that I have ever read. His accounts of St. Lo, where he became the fourth commander of his platoon in two days and went from 40 men to six effectives in a day and a half in the hedgerows, to the Huertgen Forest, where the company he led lost 138 out of 150 men including all his officers, all his noncoms, all his medics, and 90 riflemen in 24.hours, are horrific.
His writing is clear, straightforward, and honest. Reading his story I found myself wondering yet again, Where do we get such men?"
His writing is clear, straightforward, and honest. Reading his story I found myself wondering yet again, Where do we get such men?"
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at July 15, 2018 09:25 AM (lApJ5)
47
I'm well into the second Beatrix Potter mystery. I listen to and from work and during exercise. The nattator is quite talented nails all the typical English village types. The village animals, as well as Beatrix's little pets, all have their own personalities and she voices them splendidly. Needless to say, I'm hooked. So much fun.
Posted by: Tuna at July 15, 2018 09:26 AM (jm1YL)
48
I haven't read this book, but it sounds interesting:
"Everything Happens For a Reason (and other lies I've loved) by Kate Bowler.
I read his description from a church newsletter:
While researching America's Prosperity Gospel movement , Kate Bowler was saddened by its implications-namely that Good is present in people's triumphs, but not in their suffering, and that every aspect of your life is either your fault or your reward. When Bowler was diagnosed with Stage IV cancer at age 35. the prosperity minded messages of well wishes made cancer seem like a punishment.
In her book Bowler asks, "What would it mean for Christians to give up a little bit of the American dream that says, "You are limitless"?. The Mighty Kingdom of God is not yet here in its fulness. What if rich did not mean "wealthy" and "whole" did not mean "healed. What if being people of the Gospel meant that we are simply people of Good news, God is here. We are lived. It is enough."
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I am absolutely opposed to the Prosperity Gospel Movement. It don't think it IS the Gospel (which is about the saving power of Jesus Christ), and I think it (PG) does a lot of damage to people. I also think God has a plan-that we be transformed into the image of Christ and that the Kingdom of God might come in its fullness, but I think it's spiritual abuse to tell people it's their fault for things that are clearly not and to attribute that to God.
"Everything Happens For a Reason (and other lies I've loved) by Kate Bowler.
I read his description from a church newsletter:
While researching America's Prosperity Gospel movement , Kate Bowler was saddened by its implications-namely that Good is present in people's triumphs, but not in their suffering, and that every aspect of your life is either your fault or your reward. When Bowler was diagnosed with Stage IV cancer at age 35. the prosperity minded messages of well wishes made cancer seem like a punishment.
In her book Bowler asks, "What would it mean for Christians to give up a little bit of the American dream that says, "You are limitless"?. The Mighty Kingdom of God is not yet here in its fulness. What if rich did not mean "wealthy" and "whole" did not mean "healed. What if being people of the Gospel meant that we are simply people of Good news, God is here. We are lived. It is enough."
______________________________________
I am absolutely opposed to the Prosperity Gospel Movement. It don't think it IS the Gospel (which is about the saving power of Jesus Christ), and I think it (PG) does a lot of damage to people. I also think God has a plan-that we be transformed into the image of Christ and that the Kingdom of God might come in its fullness, but I think it's spiritual abuse to tell people it's their fault for things that are clearly not and to attribute that to God.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2018 09:27 AM (AllCR)
49
pretty funnny
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 09:21 AM (JFO2v)
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The part that really got me was the parody about the song, "Vagina's Up!" and then we get that story and photo with those, umm, gals, "screaming" through their, well, anyway.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 09:21 AM (JFO2v)
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The part that really got me was the parody about the song, "Vagina's Up!" and then we get that story and photo with those, umm, gals, "screaming" through their, well, anyway.
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 15, 2018 09:27 AM (WEBkv)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2018 09:28 AM (wYseH)
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#48-Should be "We are loved" not "We are lived."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2018 09:28 AM (AllCR)
52
"Cardiac Arrest" by Howard Root.
An out-of-control, arrogant DOJ did NOT start with Mueller! This is an appalling case study, by a DOJ target who stood up to them and won.
Had he not been a multimillionaire, I suspect Root would have been just as helpless & screwed as Michael Flynn.
An out-of-control, arrogant DOJ did NOT start with Mueller! This is an appalling case study, by a DOJ target who stood up to them and won.
Had he not been a multimillionaire, I suspect Root would have been just as helpless & screwed as Michael Flynn.
Posted by: strawdog at July 15, 2018 09:28 AM (Cssks)
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44 33 Lin-duh, have you read John Ringo's Black Tide Rising series?
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at July 15, 2018 09:20 AM (6RnIb)
I have read it, the first book was good but it sorta petered out after that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 09:25 AM (mpXpK)
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*THHHHHBBBBBPPPT*
de gustibus
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at July 15, 2018 09:20 AM (6RnIb)
I have read it, the first book was good but it sorta petered out after that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 09:25 AM (mpXpK)
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*THHHHHBBBBBPPPT*
de gustibus
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at July 15, 2018 09:29 AM (6RnIb)
54
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 15, 2018 09:22 AM (y7DUB)
I liked it too. I guess we're seeing the softer side of Captain Hate.
I liked it too. I guess we're seeing the softer side of Captain Hate.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 09:30 AM (gUCYC)
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. . . . but I think it's spiritual abuse to tell
people it's their fault for things that are clearly not and to attribute
that to God.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Hear, hear!
people it's their fault for things that are clearly not and to attribute
that to God.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Hear, hear!
Posted by: tonypete at July 15, 2018 09:30 AM (9rIkM)
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#49-That "God" is present in their suffering, not good.
I am going to go away now, and not type anymore this morning! :^)
I am going to go away now, and not type anymore this morning! :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2018 09:31 AM (AllCR)
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The part that really got me was the parody about the song, "Vagina's Up!" and then we get that story and photo with those, umm, gals, "screaming" through their, well, anyway.
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 15, 2018 09:27 AM (WEBkv)
the morning pronoun announcements
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 15, 2018 09:27 AM (WEBkv)
the morning pronoun announcements
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 09:31 AM (JFO2v)
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Reading his story I found myself wondering yet again, Where do we get such men?"
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at July 15, 2018 09:25 AM (lApJ5)
I think I saw one or two yesterday. I was in the Columbus Ga. mall. Lot's of young men in uniform from Ft. Benning. Ranger school. Sniper school etc.
My goodness those "boys" are young but they're all volunteers. I guarantee somewhere in those young men, at least one or two are absolutely direct descendants of Billy Badass. Guarantee.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at July 15, 2018 09:25 AM (lApJ5)
I think I saw one or two yesterday. I was in the Columbus Ga. mall. Lot's of young men in uniform from Ft. Benning. Ranger school. Sniper school etc.
My goodness those "boys" are young but they're all volunteers. I guarantee somewhere in those young men, at least one or two are absolutely direct descendants of Billy Badass. Guarantee.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 09:32 AM (L2Znf)
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For the Irish Troubles, try "The IRA, A History" by Tim Pat Coogan.
Not a fast paced thriller, but it is a concise breakdown of the war in Ireland from the creation of the IRA up through 1994 or thereabouts.
Pictures too!
Not a fast paced thriller, but it is a concise breakdown of the war in Ireland from the creation of the IRA up through 1994 or thereabouts.
Pictures too!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2018 09:33 AM (EoRCO)
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Have read quite of few of the Joe Pickett books by CJ Box (although my favorite so far is his stand alone Blue Heaven) and have liked most of them. Someone here on a previous thread recommended William Kent Krueger so try. Read Boundary Waters this week and will try to pick up a few more of his to read. Solid plotting and characters (with the weather and terrain almost being a character as well).
Posted by: Charlotte at July 15, 2018 09:34 AM (1oJkw)
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I have been rereading the Vince Flynn series. His first works are nearly 20 years old and could still be taken from DC today.
I think he was calling out the Swamp back then.
I think he was calling out the Swamp back then.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 15, 2018 09:35 AM (0tfLf)
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I am absolutely opposed to the Prosperity Gospel Movement. It don't think it IS the Gospel (which is about the saving power of Jesus Christ), and I think it (PG) does a lot of damage to people. I also think God has a plan-that we be transformed into the image of Christ and that the Kingdom of God might come in its fullness, but I think it's spiritual abuse to tell people it's their fault for things that are clearly not and to attribute that to God.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2018 09:27 AM (AllCR)
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Yeah, how does one square the "it's your fault" with the Book of Job?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2018 09:27 AM (AllCR)
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Yeah, how does one square the "it's your fault" with the Book of Job?
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 15, 2018 09:35 AM (WEBkv)
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55 . . . . but I think it's spiritual abuse to tell
people it's their fault for things that are clearly not and to attribute
that to God.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Hear, hear!
Posted by: tonypete at July 15, 2018 09:30 AM (9rIkM)
two time I have been told it was my fault. a jack stand broke and a car fell on me and another time a bout of depression landed me in the hospital. I was told it was my fault and G D was punishing me
people it's their fault for things that are clearly not and to attribute
that to God.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Hear, hear!
Posted by: tonypete at July 15, 2018 09:30 AM (9rIkM)
two time I have been told it was my fault. a jack stand broke and a car fell on me and another time a bout of depression landed me in the hospital. I was told it was my fault and G D was punishing me
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 09:35 AM (JFO2v)
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A fascinating incident in Irish history is the Curragh Mutiny of 1914.
Irish Nationalists won Home Rule -- an Irish Parliament for local matters -- after decades of political haggling in the UK Parliament. The House of Lords vetoed it. When it later passed, the Ulster Unionists threatened to revolt against the Catholics in the North, and there was large scale gun-running abetted by the UK military. A true civil war loomed in the North. Then UK military officers with Unionist sympathies announced they would resign if the Crown acted against the Ulster Unionists. All this on the eve of WWI.
With Home Rule killed in its crib by the UK Deep State, Irish Nationalists took a different path.
Irish Nationalists won Home Rule -- an Irish Parliament for local matters -- after decades of political haggling in the UK Parliament. The House of Lords vetoed it. When it later passed, the Ulster Unionists threatened to revolt against the Catholics in the North, and there was large scale gun-running abetted by the UK military. A true civil war loomed in the North. Then UK military officers with Unionist sympathies announced they would resign if the Crown acted against the Ulster Unionists. All this on the eve of WWI.
With Home Rule killed in its crib by the UK Deep State, Irish Nationalists took a different path.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 09:36 AM (pV/54)
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37 ... blake, When I was reading both Three Men in a Boat and McManus a few weeks ago, I was wondering the same thing. The styles are so similar even though the subject matter varies, I think McManus must have been familiar with Jerome's books.
Posted by: JTB at July 15, 2018 09:36 AM (V+03K)
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For those who enjoy zombie apocalypse stuff, have you read Peter Meredith? I enjoyed his The Apocalypse series.
Posted by: lin-duh at July 15, 2018 09:37 AM (kufk0)
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the morning pronoun announcements
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 09:31 AM (JFO2v)
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Not so much that as weariness that the left is so freaking tiresome.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 09:31 AM (JFO2v)
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Not so much that as weariness that the left is so freaking tiresome.
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 15, 2018 09:38 AM (WEBkv)
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Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 09:35 AM (JFO2v)
Those people have a really negative view of God. Just ignore them.
Those people have a really negative view of God. Just ignore them.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2018 09:39 AM (AllCR)
69
Books about the Irish Troubles? I have several on my "want list." I haven't read any yet, so I can't attest to their objectivity, but they are well-regarded.
"The Troubles" by Tim Pat Coogan
"Operation Banner: The British Army in Northern Ireland 1969-2007" by Nicholas van der Bijl
Ken Wharton has written many histories of the British Army in Northern Ireland that look interesting as well.
"The Troubles" by Tim Pat Coogan
"Operation Banner: The British Army in Northern Ireland 1969-2007" by Nicholas van der Bijl
Ken Wharton has written many histories of the British Army in Northern Ireland that look interesting as well.
Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2018 09:39 AM (Izzlo)
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Good Sunday morning, horde!
I hardly read a thing this week. I am way behind on my goodreads challenge.
Having a hard time concentrating on anything I pick up.
I hardly read a thing this week. I am way behind on my goodreads challenge.
Having a hard time concentrating on anything I pick up.
Posted by: April at July 15, 2018 09:40 AM (e8PP1)
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For my sins, I've been reading the Hugo Awards nominees packet for this year.
ALL the short fiction noms (short story, novella, novelette) are by women. Only about a quarter of them are actually science fiction stories. In none of them is there anything resembling a plot.
Of the six novels nominated, four are by women (one of whom has a mental illness that makes her think she's a man).
If an insufficiency of women and/or minorities in a given profession is proof of systemic racism/sexism, then what are we to deduce from this year's Hugo ballot?
ALL the short fiction noms (short story, novella, novelette) are by women. Only about a quarter of them are actually science fiction stories. In none of them is there anything resembling a plot.
Of the six novels nominated, four are by women (one of whom has a mental illness that makes her think she's a man).
If an insufficiency of women and/or minorities in a given profession is proof of systemic racism/sexism, then what are we to deduce from this year's Hugo ballot?
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 15, 2018 09:41 AM (urxbp)
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"The Provos were Marxist."
Yep, so was the old IRA. For over 50 years, Irish governments had socialist leanings, with awful results for the Irish economy. Then they grew up, and Ireland now has a per capita GNP higher than Britain, and is ranked #2 in world rugby, above #4 England.
Living well is the best revenge.
Yep, so was the old IRA. For over 50 years, Irish governments had socialist leanings, with awful results for the Irish economy. Then they grew up, and Ireland now has a per capita GNP higher than Britain, and is ranked #2 in world rugby, above #4 England.
Living well is the best revenge.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 09:42 AM (pV/54)
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46. What a sacrifice America made to liberate Europe. Last eve movie thread featured a film that detailed horror experienced in everyday civilian life. WWII was just a relentless nightmare, any way you look at it.
Posted by: kallisto at July 15, 2018 09:42 AM (97I0d)
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Not so much that as weariness that the left is so freaking tiresome.
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 15, 2018 09:38 AM (WEBkv)
Free Speech of the 60s is now declared as a WEAPON by a SCOTUS
womens health means abortion but no mammograms or heart disease screening
news is about covering important items with a pillow until they stop moving
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 15, 2018 09:38 AM (WEBkv)
Free Speech of the 60s is now declared as a WEAPON by a SCOTUS
womens health means abortion but no mammograms or heart disease screening
news is about covering important items with a pillow until they stop moving
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 09:43 AM (JFO2v)
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Sometimes Im so embarrassed to be a Husky. But on the bright side, maybe we should cordon off the SJW idiots into their own non WiFi conversation safe space (why am a picturing a basement?) so the normals can live in peace.
Posted by: LAsue at July 15, 2018 09:43 AM (Z48ZB)
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I found a book, "The Boys War" Scholastic, 1990. It's about boys in the Civil War who enlisted at less than 16 years of age. A lot of boys did that as there was no way to verify age in most cases. This was regular army, not as drummers or such. Most were looking for adventure and had no idea what they were getting into.
One of the youngest was Johnny Clem, who did enlist as a drummer at 11, but earned the nickname "Johnny Shiloh" after a shell destroyed his drum and he picked up a musket. He became a sergeant in the fall of 1863 and made it to the end of the war.
The Civil war was the last time drummer boys were used in battle. Something like 40k drummers were under 16.
One of the youngest was Johnny Clem, who did enlist as a drummer at 11, but earned the nickname "Johnny Shiloh" after a shell destroyed his drum and he picked up a musket. He became a sergeant in the fall of 1863 and made it to the end of the war.
The Civil war was the last time drummer boys were used in battle. Something like 40k drummers were under 16.
Posted by: freaked at July 15, 2018 09:44 AM (UdKB7)
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As CBD mentioned, the top ranks of the Provos were Marxists. "The Terror Network", by Claire Sterling, describes many of the Marxist terrorist groups of the 60's and 70's, with a prominent place for the IRA. Japanese, Palestinian, Irish - can't we all just get along and blow shit up?
Posted by: motionview at July 15, 2018 09:44 AM (pYQR/)
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19 That seems a common factor in the history, not just of Ireland, but of the Celts of the British Isles generally.
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I had the good fortune to be able to travel to Edinburgh once - delightful city, in the summer - and there are some memorials and other historical remembrances around that reference a time of "troubles" in Scotland, after the Jacobite rebellion had failed but unrest and sporadic killing went on for a long time. I was most struck by a plaque in the Haymarket (now a popular dining spot with many restaurants) that noted the site of a famous gallows, and later a homemade guillotine. Said that this spot saw at least one execution (often more than one) every day for at least 30 years or so. And that was out of a city population that was probably only about 100,000 at the time.
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I had the good fortune to be able to travel to Edinburgh once - delightful city, in the summer - and there are some memorials and other historical remembrances around that reference a time of "troubles" in Scotland, after the Jacobite rebellion had failed but unrest and sporadic killing went on for a long time. I was most struck by a plaque in the Haymarket (now a popular dining spot with many restaurants) that noted the site of a famous gallows, and later a homemade guillotine. Said that this spot saw at least one execution (often more than one) every day for at least 30 years or so. And that was out of a city population that was probably only about 100,000 at the time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2018 09:45 AM (V2Yro)
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Also well into "The Jungle is Neutral". Ordered a second hand copy from an Amazon seller. Didn't pay much attention when I ordered it. Just chose a good price and stated condition. Ended up getting a pristine copy from a seller in England. Took a while to get here though. Anyway, I marvel at the man's bravery and endurance. I did some research on his later years and was saddened to read that he took his own life after suffering from the residual effects of the jungle year injuries and illnesses. Left a note for his wife that he didn't want her to continue caring for an old invalid. Stiff upper lip indeed.
Posted by: Tuna at July 15, 2018 09:45 AM (jm1YL)
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47 ... Tuna, Where are you finding audio versions of the Beatrix Potter mysteries? I don't see the audio CDs on Amazon.
Posted by: JTB at July 15, 2018 09:45 AM (V+03K)
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Ah man, for a quick second I thought that said Foglio Library, of "Girl Genius" and other comics fame.
They're in Seattle, too.
I love GG, but I wish they would resume their "Buck Godot" comic. I read the only two volumes this past week.
Church is starting. Wonder how this thread will unspool.
They're in Seattle, too.
I love GG, but I wish they would resume their "Buck Godot" comic. I read the only two volumes this past week.
Church is starting. Wonder how this thread will unspool.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 15, 2018 09:48 AM (mqwQU)
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71 For my sins, I've been reading the Hugo Awards nominees packet for this year.
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There's an SF book out there, "All My Sins Remembered" which is a pretty good read.
Along with "The Forever War."
Joe Haldeman.
If one is interested in 40 year old SF.
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There's an SF book out there, "All My Sins Remembered" which is a pretty good read.
Along with "The Forever War."
Joe Haldeman.
If one is interested in 40 year old SF.
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 15, 2018 09:48 AM (WEBkv)
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Here is a question that I would guess most people would get wrong.
Who passed a ban on importation of slaves first. The United States or Britain?
Who passed a ban on importation of slaves first. The United States or Britain?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 15, 2018 09:50 AM (2DOZq)
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Hans: The following people are to be released from their captors: In Northern Ireland, the seven members of the New Provo Front. In Canada, the five imprisoned leaders of Liberte de Quebec. In Sri Lanka, the nine members of the Asian Dawn movement...
John McClane: [listening on the radio] What the fuck?
Karl: [mouthing silently] Asian Dawn?
Hans: [covers the radio] I read about them in Time magazine.
John McClane: [listening on the radio] What the fuck?
Karl: [mouthing silently] Asian Dawn?
Hans: [covers the radio] I read about them in Time magazine.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 09:50 AM (pV/54)
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Tolled Lege
Picked up my next Aubrey/ Maturin book 13 Gun Salute at the used book store. Was the last one in the series there so will need to keep a eye out there or go to e book.
Picked up my next Aubrey/ Maturin book 13 Gun Salute at the used book store. Was the last one in the series there so will need to keep a eye out there or go to e book.
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2018 09:51 AM (pHfeF)
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Captain Hate, I haven't read Night Circus but have heard of it. Your take on it is intriguing me enough to seek it out.
Posted by: Dr Alice at July 15, 2018 09:52 AM (LaT54)
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Haven't spent any time in our local library in a good while--it eventually became a daytime camp out and snooze spot for the burgeoning homeless/"recovery" population. The snoring and the. . .ah. . fragrance was entirely too much for any serious reading to get done, so no point in going.
Posted by: FIIGMO at July 15, 2018 09:52 AM (E+qJE)
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Not about books, but I wonder how many others, in watching Peter the Strzoker, were reminded of either Malcolm McDowell in Clockwork Orange or Jack Nicholson in The Shining? Or both? Creepy, but what do you expect for a creep. I do hope that somehow he ends up in front of a jury. Put him on the witness stand, and they won't even leave the jury box to find him guilty, even if the jury is a stacked as the one Daniel Webster faced.
(Note that I did manage a lit reference after all.)
(Note that I did manage a lit reference after all.)
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 09:52 AM (59GGI)
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"59 For the Irish Troubles, try "The IRA, A History" by Tim Pat Coogan."
Coogan does a good job with "Michael Collins" as well.
Coogan does a good job with "Michael Collins" as well.
Posted by: jd at July 15, 2018 09:53 AM (JqVG9)
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89 "59 For the Irish Troubles, try "The IRA, A History" by Tim Pat Coogan."
Coogan does a good job with "Michael Collins" as well.
Posted by: jd at July 15, 2018 09:53 AM (JqVG9)
I have that one, it is good.
Coogan does a good job with "Michael Collins" as well.
Posted by: jd at July 15, 2018 09:53 AM (JqVG9)
I have that one, it is good.
Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2018 09:55 AM (Izzlo)
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@ 80
They're on Amazon. Audible versions. These narrations are sponsored by some sort of group that promotes Texas authors. That`'s right, this author of charming English "cozies" was born in IL and lives in TX.
They're on Amazon. Audible versions. These narrations are sponsored by some sort of group that promotes Texas authors. That`'s right, this author of charming English "cozies" was born in IL and lives in TX.
Posted by: Tuna at July 15, 2018 09:56 AM (jm1YL)
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Come on rain, you can do it. Fifteen more miles. Then slow and steady for an hour or so...
Come on rain, you can do it. Fifteen more miles. Then slow and steady for an hour or so...
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 15, 2018 09:56 AM (LOgQ4)
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Our local librarian recommended The Three Musketeers to me last week. Audible has a fine, unabridged version read by John Lee. The complete book is available on Gutenberg. It's a bit long-winded for today's readers, but worth the extra effort. A rip-roaring good story, lots of suspense, really wicked villains, and complex, not-always heroic heroes. Thoroughly enjoyable.
Posted by: Alifa at July 15, 2018 09:57 AM (dmCsH)
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83 Here is a question that I would guess most people would get wrong.
Who passed a ban on importation of slaves first. The United States or Britain?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 15, 2018 09:50 AM (2DOZq)
The way you phrase that is unclear. It could be taken as "importation to the US or Britain", and of course you couldn't have slaves in Britain. But we first restricted the immigration. Also, because of their long friendship, the Portuguese were for some time partly exempted from the Brit suppression of the slave trade. They were supposed to bring slaves only to Brazil, but - just imagine - many of the trader cheated.
Who passed a ban on importation of slaves first. The United States or Britain?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 15, 2018 09:50 AM (2DOZq)
The way you phrase that is unclear. It could be taken as "importation to the US or Britain", and of course you couldn't have slaves in Britain. But we first restricted the immigration. Also, because of their long friendship, the Portuguese were for some time partly exempted from the Brit suppression of the slave trade. They were supposed to bring slaves only to Brazil, but - just imagine - many of the trader cheated.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 09:58 AM (59GGI)
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Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 09:52 AM (59GGI)
Yes. Like those characters, Strozk is a sociopath, lacking ability to understand how others perceive.
Yes. Like those characters, Strozk is a sociopath, lacking ability to understand how others perceive.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2018 09:59 AM (EZebt)
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Im still reading about Lewis and Clarks journey. I (like they) need to pick up the pace.
Posted by: LAsue at July 15, 2018 10:00 AM (Z48ZB)
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Britain passed Abolition of Slavery Act before Lincoln's emancipation and the 13th amendment.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 10:00 AM (bUjCl)
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We headed for an Troubles like Civil War, Remember that every thing was divided up, Catholics or Republicans went to Irish only places and same with Protestants or were deemed as such. It seems We too are headed that way.
You don't drink Busmills because that's considered a Protestant drink and Jameseson's was considered a Republican or IRA drink.
They are still finding out the crap the British Government has done, SAS death squads that set up ambushes
I was in Ireland and the big news there was these poor Catholic children trying to school that was a Protestant school. The abuse these kids got as they went to school. Then September 11 happened and it disappeared from the papers.
You don't drink Busmills because that's considered a Protestant drink and Jameseson's was considered a Republican or IRA drink.
They are still finding out the crap the British Government has done, SAS death squads that set up ambushes
I was in Ireland and the big news there was these poor Catholic children trying to school that was a Protestant school. The abuse these kids got as they went to school. Then September 11 happened and it disappeared from the papers.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 15, 2018 10:01 AM (dKiJG)
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Thanks for including my inquiry in this week's Book Thread!
Posted by: Secret Square at July 15, 2018 10:02 AM (9WuX0)
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Good Sunday Morning to the Horde... Just finished the third book in Margaret Ball's Applied Topology series - clever books about the adventures of mathematics graduate students at a secret University of Texas, Austin, research center who research and implement magical powers while fighting some ingenious villains. Fun read! I'm also about to start Peter Grant's The Pride of the Damned (Cochrane's Company Book 3). The first two books offered some excellent military science fiction adventures with a nice emphasis on the business and logistical effort needed to assemble and keep a mercenary outfit going. Worth checking out.
Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at July 15, 2018 10:02 AM (1pQvR)
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"if you get 4 times the normal rainfall, it's a quadratic aquation."
No, that would be quartic aquation
No, that would be quartic aquation
Posted by: Alpine Crotch at July 15, 2018 10:04 AM (6Na2M)
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13. That info will come in handy when debating Catholic squishes. (I'm an RCC member, went to mass early today)
Posted by: kallisto at July 15, 2018 10:05 AM (97I0d)
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Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 09:58 AM (59GGI)
Talk about taking something simple and unnecessarily making it complicated. The United States passed the Act Prohibiting Slave Importation of 1807 on March 2, 1807 and Britain's Parliament passed similar act on March 25,1807.
Talk about taking something simple and unnecessarily making it complicated. The United States passed the Act Prohibiting Slave Importation of 1807 on March 2, 1807 and Britain's Parliament passed similar act on March 25,1807.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 15, 2018 10:05 AM (2DOZq)
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I have a copy of 1916 by Morgan Llewelyn. Honestly can't remember if I ever read it. It is a novel of the Irish rebellion so not exactly about The Troubles of N. Ireland.
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at July 15, 2018 10:06 AM (WY9Hg)
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The Left has taken over the D party, which will now have even less influence at the national level.
They'll retreat to redoubts in Deep Blue cities and a few states. Civil liberties for those who don't conform will be suppressed. But many of these places will go broke of their own accord.
They'll retreat to redoubts in Deep Blue cities and a few states. Civil liberties for those who don't conform will be suppressed. But many of these places will go broke of their own accord.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 10:07 AM (pV/54)
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I guess we're seeing the softer side of Captain Hate.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 09:30 AM (gUCYC)
Should I go into detail about how I'm at the dog park with Teddy because my attention craving emotionally needy wife doesn't understand the overriding importance of leaving me the fuck alone?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 09:30 AM (gUCYC)
Should I go into detail about how I'm at the dog park with Teddy because my attention craving emotionally needy wife doesn't understand the overriding importance of leaving me the fuck alone?
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 15, 2018 10:08 AM (M1xse)
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96 Im still reading about Lewis and Clarks journey. I (like they) need to pick up the pace.
Posted by: LAsue at July 15, 2018 10:00 AM (Z48ZB)
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The air rifles used by Lewis and Clark were quite ingenious.
Posted by: LAsue at July 15, 2018 10:00 AM (Z48ZB)
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The air rifles used by Lewis and Clark were quite ingenious.
Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at July 15, 2018 10:08 AM (WEBkv)
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96 Im still reading about Lewis and Clarks journey. I (like they) need to pick up the pace.
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Things slow down when you hit the Rockies.
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Things slow down when you hit the Rockies.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 15, 2018 10:09 AM (LBZrA)
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We're on our way back from DesertPalooza 2018. 7 Nat.'l Parks, 8 states in 14 days. Except for the idiot valet who crunched our car top carrier into the top of the 6'8" clearance garage, we've had an amazing time. We're listening to the audio book of "A Gentleman in Moscow" and loving it. It will get us across Kansas and Missouri, to home. Oh, and, now I get a new car top carrier courtesy of The Windham, Colorado Springs!
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 15, 2018 10:09 AM (1PIwV)
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Was so inspired by that poetry discussion other day that opened a copy of Byron's Complete Poems - Childe Harold. Why not...Noticed something was amiss. What ? "E"s before "d"s. All replaced by commas ! Looked at the copy - 1905 edition. I occasionally go to used book sales, pick up a tome of something or other to never read, donate back to used book re-sellers. Cycle of life. This one is going back.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 10:10 AM (bUjCl)
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The air rifles used by Lewis and Clark were quite ingenious.
I read the one by Stephen Ambrose (?, the Band of Brothers guy).
The first time they saw a grizzly bear and shot it and the shot had no effect was hilarious.
I read the one by Stephen Ambrose (?, the Band of Brothers guy).
The first time they saw a grizzly bear and shot it and the shot had no effect was hilarious.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 10:10 AM (fuK7c)
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This week the headaches have continued, so I've stuck with some historical essays by J H Hexter, and some Michael Gilbert mystery/suspense.
The former is very much my kind of historian. In his own words, he is an extreme "splitter" and spends a lot of time attacking the "lumpers". (Toynbee and Spengler are paradigm examples of lumpers, as is Marx.) Especially fun is his evisceration of the left-wing historian Christopher Hill. One of his ongoing wars is against the defninitions-of-convenience much loved of some historians. The sort that end up defining Queen Elizabeth as bourgeois, or St Francis of Assisi as a man of the Renaissance.
Gilbert, who was actually a conservative (he was the Tory party's solicitor under Maggie), is amazingly even handed on politics. You cannot predict how the good guys and bad guys will split, politically. Or even if they will be really good guys (Queen Against Karl Mullen). Flash Point is a particularly apt one for today - a picture of the Deep State at work to cover one of their own. And even Commies end up help the hero. But ultimately what I like about him is the picture of England he paints throughout.
And, of course, some naval history. Can't live without that. Story about that addiction: Long, long ago, in HS, I had a massive crush on a girl. Until that time I'd never gotten up the nerve to ask a girl out. So I put all my naval books in a pile and made an oath not to touch them until I asked her. She ended up as my first girlfriend, and we went out through the end of HS.
The former is very much my kind of historian. In his own words, he is an extreme "splitter" and spends a lot of time attacking the "lumpers". (Toynbee and Spengler are paradigm examples of lumpers, as is Marx.) Especially fun is his evisceration of the left-wing historian Christopher Hill. One of his ongoing wars is against the defninitions-of-convenience much loved of some historians. The sort that end up defining Queen Elizabeth as bourgeois, or St Francis of Assisi as a man of the Renaissance.
Gilbert, who was actually a conservative (he was the Tory party's solicitor under Maggie), is amazingly even handed on politics. You cannot predict how the good guys and bad guys will split, politically. Or even if they will be really good guys (Queen Against Karl Mullen). Flash Point is a particularly apt one for today - a picture of the Deep State at work to cover one of their own. And even Commies end up help the hero. But ultimately what I like about him is the picture of England he paints throughout.
And, of course, some naval history. Can't live without that. Story about that addiction: Long, long ago, in HS, I had a massive crush on a girl. Until that time I'd never gotten up the nerve to ask a girl out. So I put all my naval books in a pile and made an oath not to touch them until I asked her. She ended up as my first girlfriend, and we went out through the end of HS.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 10:12 AM (59GGI)
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Honestly, I know of no quality literature produced from either the Irish Troubles or The Dirty War. You would think both would have provided much grist for the mill, but you would be disappointed. I suspect that most folks just think these countries are tad retarded and, thus, have no expectation for any penetrating self awareness or observation. Or it could be that we few authors that can think outside of the approved narratives? Or, more likely, we have no publishers that will support the truly honest assessments of our times. If you hire nothing but Ivy Leaguers to review books, you will never be surprised by their recommendations.
Posted by: Gumby at July 15, 2018 10:12 AM (vV/gB)
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I finished up "Robots of Gotham" by Todd McAulty this week. Hard sci-fi with some good characters, interesting ideas, and some good action sequences, but ran a bit long. Left a few things hanging so seemed to clearly be heading for sequels. Seems to me to be a bit of a problem if you can't wrap up a story in 700 pages.
Posted by: motionview at July 15, 2018 10:12 AM (pYQR/)
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An AQUATION is a large amount of rain.
Oh man...we got that last night...after weeks of not a drop.
Topped off the pool.
Oh man...we got that last night...after weeks of not a drop.
Topped off the pool.
Posted by: Tami at July 15, 2018 10:12 AM (Enq6K)
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Long ago and far away, I read two books about Ireland that I impressed me-
"Strumpet City"
and "Farewell Companions"
Both by James Plunkett.
Neither is about the "Troubles" of 1960-90, per se.
But, SC relates events around WWI and FC brings the story up to the end of WWII-
and you can see the issues and events that begin to create the mix for "Troubles" to get rolling.
I was hoping he'd do a third to bring things up to the 60's...but it was not to be.
Plunkett, if I remember correctly, seems like a fairly hard leftist. But, does a great job with his characters, motivations, etc. so, it's not just cardboard cutouts spouting off for the author.
Of course, the Ireland he writes about is no more.
Still, good reads. Check them out.
"Strumpet City"
and "Farewell Companions"
Both by James Plunkett.
Neither is about the "Troubles" of 1960-90, per se.
But, SC relates events around WWI and FC brings the story up to the end of WWII-
and you can see the issues and events that begin to create the mix for "Troubles" to get rolling.
I was hoping he'd do a third to bring things up to the 60's...but it was not to be.
Plunkett, if I remember correctly, seems like a fairly hard leftist. But, does a great job with his characters, motivations, etc. so, it's not just cardboard cutouts spouting off for the author.
Of course, the Ireland he writes about is no more.
Still, good reads. Check them out.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 15, 2018 10:13 AM (9q7Dl)
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Someone here on a previous thread recommended William Kent Krueger so try. Read Boundary Waters this week and will try to pick up a few more of his to read. Solid plotting and characters (with the weather and terrain almost being a character as well).
Posted by: Charlotte
Dat wuz me !
Glad you liked it !
Wasn't that good ?
Posted by: Charlotte
Dat wuz me !
Glad you liked it !
Wasn't that good ?
Posted by: JT at July 15, 2018 10:13 AM (ucxQn)
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88 George L
Many have noticed the resemblance & posted about it at other blogs.
Anthony Burgess was always peeved that out of all the things he wrote, "Clockwork" was the only one that became a big popular hit. It is often described as a "novella," although "short story" works fine for me.
Many have noticed the resemblance & posted about it at other blogs.
Anthony Burgess was always peeved that out of all the things he wrote, "Clockwork" was the only one that became a big popular hit. It is often described as a "novella," although "short story" works fine for me.
Posted by: strawdog at July 15, 2018 10:14 AM (Cssks)
Posted by: JT at July 15, 2018 10:16 AM (ucxQn)
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The law banning the importation of slaves to the US was passed in 1807 but it did not take effect until 1808. The act of Parliament took effect in 1807 so they banned it first.
It has been said that the US act was not there to protect the slaves. It was there to protect the people who bought and sold slaves in the US.
It has been said that the US act was not there to protect the slaves. It was there to protect the people who bought and sold slaves in the US.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 10:16 AM (mpXpK)
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Talk about taking something simple and unnecessarily making it complicated. The United States passed the Act Prohibiting Slave Importation of 1807 on March 2, 1807 and Britain's Parliament passed similar act on March 25,1807.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 15, 2018 10:05 AM (2DOZq)
Lumper.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at July 15, 2018 10:05 AM (2DOZq)
Lumper.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 10:16 AM (59GGI)
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Folio Library is an independent, nonprofit membership library
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say at $125 per member it is the opposite.
Folio Library is an independent, nonprofit membership library
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say at $125 per member it is the opposite.
Posted by: Moron Robbie, Black Woman, Racist at July 15, 2018 10:17 AM (tve+u)
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For any sap who makes it to the barrel in the book thread, you have to wear the pants inside-out and backwards. Sucker.
Posted by: Fritz at July 15, 2018 10:18 AM (eAr55)
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Slavery bad.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 10:19 AM (bUjCl)
125
Love Burgess. He wrote Clockwork in six weeks because he needed the money. He was at heart a 15th century guy trapped in the 20th century.
Posted by: Gumby at July 15, 2018 10:19 AM (vV/gB)
126
Freedom good.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 10:19 AM (bUjCl)
127
I am absolutely opposed to the Prosperity Gospel Movement. It don't think it IS the Gospel (which is about the saving power of Jesus Christ), and I think it (PG) does a lot of damage to people. I also think God has a plan-that we be transformed into the image of Christ and that the Kingdom of God might come in its fullness, but I think it's spiritual abuse to tell people it's their fault for things that are clearly not and to attribute that to God.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2018 09:27 AM (AllCR)
Yes, having seen this stuff play out, not just in my professional life, but up close and personal, I am convinced this is not just wrong, it is evil.
Lives get ruined in the smallest of details, and ignorance is not an acceptable explanation for how people can perpetrate such harm on others.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2018 09:27 AM (AllCR)
Yes, having seen this stuff play out, not just in my professional life, but up close and personal, I am convinced this is not just wrong, it is evil.
Lives get ruined in the smallest of details, and ignorance is not an acceptable explanation for how people can perpetrate such harm on others.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 10:20 AM (cY3LT)
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two wees back you recommended "The Jungle is Neutral", so I ordered a copy on Amazon for $14. I just received a beautiful used copy, with gold on the page edges- it must have cost a pretty penny new.
Posted by: Brian at July 15, 2018 10:20 AM (6BSUU)
129
James Plunkett was a great QB.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 15, 2018 10:22 AM (89T5c)
130
That seems a common factor in the history, not just of Ireland, but of the Celts of the British Isles generally. Whenever they had a chance to unite to resist England, they seem to have preferred settling old scores instead. (I don't know if this is true of the Bretons. Does anyone here have some knowledge?)
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 09:06 AM (59GGI)
According to a friend who went to school in Belfast (he was Canadian, but his father was a physician there), the violence was roach upon roach. You had your Catholic Free Shit Army, and your Protestant Free Shit Army, and egged on by demagogues and outside agitators, they fought one another. Middle and upper class Catholics and Protestants got along fine. And both sides fought the British Army, which was tasked with trying to keep the peace.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 09:06 AM (59GGI)
According to a friend who went to school in Belfast (he was Canadian, but his father was a physician there), the violence was roach upon roach. You had your Catholic Free Shit Army, and your Protestant Free Shit Army, and egged on by demagogues and outside agitators, they fought one another. Middle and upper class Catholics and Protestants got along fine. And both sides fought the British Army, which was tasked with trying to keep the peace.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2018 10:22 AM (bNb8V)
131
An AQUATION is a large amount of rain.
Oh man...we got that last night...after weeks of not a drop.
Topped off the pool.
Posted by: Tami at July 15, 2018 10:12 AM (Enq6K)
Yup... it was like somebody took a lake and just dumped it. Water pouring straight down. We lost power for a bit. Thankfully it was cooled off by then, and it came back on before dark.
Oh man...we got that last night...after weeks of not a drop.
Topped off the pool.
Posted by: Tami at July 15, 2018 10:12 AM (Enq6K)
Yup... it was like somebody took a lake and just dumped it. Water pouring straight down. We lost power for a bit. Thankfully it was cooled off by then, and it came back on before dark.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 10:24 AM (cY3LT)
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I stopped watching the Sunday a.m. news shows when I realized the left was sending out goons mouthing a coordinated message and the Gopes rarely offered effective counterpoint. Sunday morning Book Thread is much better use of time.
Posted by: kallisto at July 15, 2018 10:24 AM (97I0d)
133
I didn't know that jogging on Christmas was a thing.
Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2018 10:24 AM (sdi6R)
134
During WWII, Burgess' wife was raped by four US servicemen and miscarried. Burgess was away with the war, and denied leave.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 10:25 AM (pV/54)
135
I am absolutely opposed to the Prosperity Gospel Movement.
Me too. What I have noticed is this: if you try to live a Godly life, a byproduct of that is prosperity. The more you resist temptation, the more time you have to make your/yours life better. I have read the bible through twice, and nowhere in there did I find the promise of material wealth if you adhere to the Gospel.
Me too. What I have noticed is this: if you try to live a Godly life, a byproduct of that is prosperity. The more you resist temptation, the more time you have to make your/yours life better. I have read the bible through twice, and nowhere in there did I find the promise of material wealth if you adhere to the Gospel.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 15, 2018 10:26 AM (1PIwV)
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113 Honestly, I know of no quality literature produced from either the Irish Troubles or The Dirty War. You would think both would have provided much grist for the mill, but you would be disappointed. I suspect that most folks just think these countries are tad retarded and, thus, have no expectation for any penetrating self awareness or observation. Or it could be that we few authors that can think outside of the approved narratives? Or, more likely, we have no publishers that will support the truly honest assessments of our times. If you hire nothing but Ivy Leaguers to review books, you will never be surprised by their recommendations.
Posted by: Gumby at July 15, 2018 10:12 AM (vV/gB)
With all our talk about free helicopter rides for Leftists, I'm having trouble finding books about Pinochet & Allende that might be objective. I get the feeling most historians would be biased towards the Marxist.
And as it happens, I do have a book about Northern Ireland in my library - "The Irish Troubles" by J. Bower Bell, 1993.
Posted by: Gumby at July 15, 2018 10:12 AM (vV/gB)
With all our talk about free helicopter rides for Leftists, I'm having trouble finding books about Pinochet & Allende that might be objective. I get the feeling most historians would be biased towards the Marxist.
And as it happens, I do have a book about Northern Ireland in my library - "The Irish Troubles" by J. Bower Bell, 1993.
Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2018 10:26 AM (Izzlo)
137
Have read quite of few of the Joe Pickett books by CJ Box (although my favorite so far is his stand alone Blue Heaven) and have liked most of them. Someone here on a previous thread recommended William Kent Krueger so try. Read Boundary Waters this week and will try to pick up a few more of his to read. Solid plotting and characters (with the weather and terrain almost being a character as well).
Posted by: Charlotte
I'm a big fan if his as well.
Not sure if I've read blue heaven tho.
Posted by: Charlotte
I'm a big fan if his as well.
Not sure if I've read blue heaven tho.
Posted by: JT at July 15, 2018 10:27 AM (ucxQn)
138
If you want a prosperity theology the ln become a Muslim.
Posted by: Gumby at July 15, 2018 10:27 AM (vV/gB)
139
What is the address of that subversive library in Seattle? It's time to load up the old Winnebago, bring plenty of pitch and start the revolution! Resistance? Hah! Resist this you bitches! Time to burn the books, hang the traitors, and invest in weapons manufacturing corporations! Kill. Them. All!
Sorry, the flakka is winding down and I usually go on an insane killing spree before it wears off completely. Carry on.
Sorry, the flakka is winding down and I usually go on an insane killing spree before it wears off completely. Carry on.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 15, 2018 10:28 AM (9BLnV)
140
A Secret History of the IRA (Penguin, 2002; 2007) by journalist Ed Moloney.
Posted by: Philemon at July 15, 2018 10:29 AM (VSxzm)
141
So, did the California Socialist Democratic Party do away with the Primary Election in June and go back to party boss rule?
Re: Dianne Feinstein.
Re: Dianne Feinstein.
Posted by: JAS at July 15, 2018 10:30 AM (3HNOQ)
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That seems a common factor in the history, not just
of Ireland, but of the Celts of the British Isles generally. Whenever
they had a chance to unite to resist England, they seem to have
preferred settling old scores instead. (I don't know if this is true of
the Bretons. Does anyone here have some knowledge?)
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 09:06 AM (59GGI)
George MacDonald Fraser stated in the epilogue of Quartered Safe Out Here something to the effect that the Scots were involved in the eternal struggle against their traditional enemies, the Scots.
There was more to it, but I loaned that book to a friend who promptly never gave it back.
of Ireland, but of the Celts of the British Isles generally. Whenever
they had a chance to unite to resist England, they seem to have
preferred settling old scores instead. (I don't know if this is true of
the Bretons. Does anyone here have some knowledge?)
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 09:06 AM (59GGI)
George MacDonald Fraser stated in the epilogue of Quartered Safe Out Here something to the effect that the Scots were involved in the eternal struggle against their traditional enemies, the Scots.
There was more to it, but I loaned that book to a friend who promptly never gave it back.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2018 10:31 AM (2K6fY)
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We're on our way back from DesertPalooza 2018. 7 Nat.'l Parks, 8 states in 14 days. Except for the idiot valet who crunched our car top carrier into the top of the 6'8" clearance garage, we've had an amazing time. We're listening to the audio book of "A Gentleman in Moscow" and loving it. It will get us across Kansas and Missouri, to home. Oh, and, now I get a new car top carrier courtesy of The Windham, Colorado Springs!
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 15, 2018 10:09 AM (1PIwV)
I'm supremely jealous of you and your trip... but why you gotta lump us in there with Kansas?
The Missouri leg, while it may not be home, is lovely. The drive across I-70 has rolling hills, greenery all around. It's not our fault you have to go through dusty dirty desolate Kansas first.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 15, 2018 10:09 AM (1PIwV)
I'm supremely jealous of you and your trip... but why you gotta lump us in there with Kansas?
The Missouri leg, while it may not be home, is lovely. The drive across I-70 has rolling hills, greenery all around. It's not our fault you have to go through dusty dirty desolate Kansas first.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 10:31 AM (cY3LT)
144
The Empire's Corp, It starts of with a Lt getting blamed for killing civilians at a food riot. The General knows that he is getting blamed and ships him off world to a Planet that is having to deal with a "Revolt". The General knows that the Empire is on the brink and going to fail, and when it does the under class won't get their food or welfare, so the General gives the Lt a blank check because he knows that they will be on their own. The Governor on the new planet is corrupt and the Marines don't know if they should side with the Locals or the "Government"
I am seeing some books with this trend of a socialist government failing and the people rise up and kill everyone.
I am seeing some books with this trend of a socialist government failing and the people rise up and kill everyone.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 15, 2018 10:31 AM (dKiJG)
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The reason I ask is that of late I'm beginning to think that if there is an American Civil War 2.0, that's what it's going to be like -- not so much military movements, fronts, big battles, entire cities being cut off, etc. as it is an endless series of bombings, riots, assassinations, and other small-scale stuff in which a lot of innocent people get caught.
Posted by: Secret Square at July 08, 2018 12:32 PM (9WuX0)
That pretty much describes every civil war in history. The American Civil War 1.0 was an outlier.
Posted by: Secret Square at July 08, 2018 12:32 PM (9WuX0)
That pretty much describes every civil war in history. The American Civil War 1.0 was an outlier.
Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2018 10:31 AM (sdi6R)
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AQUATION:
I can use it in a sentence!
"Yesterday while out taking part in an Equestrian sport I was deluged by a large Aquation which was both refreshing and a bother."
Two inches of rain in one hour talk about a sad cowboy.
I can use it in a sentence!
"Yesterday while out taking part in an Equestrian sport I was deluged by a large Aquation which was both refreshing and a bother."
Two inches of rain in one hour talk about a sad cowboy.
Posted by: obsidian at July 15, 2018 10:31 AM (7+yqP)
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Raindogs by Adrian McKinty is a terrific and hilarious mystery set in Northern Ireland during the troubles. I realized just what it was like to live during a low-grade civil war.
Sean Duffy may be the only Catholic detective in the Royal Constabulary who must deal with the Prods, the IRA, and the British Secret Service in turn. The beginning scenes about Muhammed Ali visiting Dublin highlights McKinty's writing skills and wit - it could not be better. Fortunately, it's #5 in the Sean Duffy series, so afterwards you can start with the 1st. I was so excited when I read Rain Dogs that I had to read with great delight all of them and every new one as it come out.
Along with Beneath a Scarlet Sky, it is one of the books I keep recommending and giving away to friends.
Sean Duffy may be the only Catholic detective in the Royal Constabulary who must deal with the Prods, the IRA, and the British Secret Service in turn. The beginning scenes about Muhammed Ali visiting Dublin highlights McKinty's writing skills and wit - it could not be better. Fortunately, it's #5 in the Sean Duffy series, so afterwards you can start with the 1st. I was so excited when I read Rain Dogs that I had to read with great delight all of them and every new one as it come out.
Along with Beneath a Scarlet Sky, it is one of the books I keep recommending and giving away to friends.
Posted by: Madigan at July 15, 2018 10:33 AM (mgVfo)
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105 The Left has taken over the D party, which will now have even less influence at the national level.
They'll retreat to redoubts in Deep Blue cities and a few states. Civil liberties for those who don't conform will be suppressed. But many of these places will go broke of their own accord.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 10:07 AM (pV/54)
We've seen this before, in fact, twice in my adult lifetime. Ultimately they will figure out that it's not working, and run a Carter or a (Bill) Clinton as a fake "moderate". Then the cycle starts again.
But first they'll have to get hammered hard enough to wise up a little.
They'll retreat to redoubts in Deep Blue cities and a few states. Civil liberties for those who don't conform will be suppressed. But many of these places will go broke of their own accord.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 10:07 AM (pV/54)
We've seen this before, in fact, twice in my adult lifetime. Ultimately they will figure out that it's not working, and run a Carter or a (Bill) Clinton as a fake "moderate". Then the cycle starts again.
But first they'll have to get hammered hard enough to wise up a little.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 10:33 AM (59GGI)
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Books for the Book God
Scrolls for the Scroll Throne
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 08:58 AM (gUCYC)
I always knew this place was a Chaos cult
Scrolls for the Scroll Throne
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 08:58 AM (gUCYC)
I always knew this place was a Chaos cult
Posted by: Vanya at July 15, 2018 10:34 AM (8UWiY)
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True story: The American FBI learned everything they needed to know about how to deploy a covert op from the IRA. Get some, John Bull!
Posted by: Fritz at July 15, 2018 10:35 AM (eAr55)
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For those who haven't read it The Sword of Shannara trilogy is on sale today for $2.99.
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Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 10:38 AM (mpXpK)
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145 The reason I ask is that of late I'm beginning to think that if there is an American Civil War 2.0, that's what it's going to be like -- not so much military movements, fronts, big battles, entire cities being cut off, etc. as it is an endless series of bombings, riots, assassinations, and other small-scale stuff in which a lot of innocent people get caught.
Posted by: Secret Square at July 08, 2018 12:32 PM (9WuX0)
That pretty much describes every civil war in history. The American Civil War 1.0 was an outlier.
Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2018 10:31 AM (sdi6R)
English Civil War & the Russian Civil War were more like conventional military campaigns than low intensity terrorism / counter terrorism operations.
Posted by: Secret Square at July 08, 2018 12:32 PM (9WuX0)
That pretty much describes every civil war in history. The American Civil War 1.0 was an outlier.
Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2018 10:31 AM (sdi6R)
English Civil War & the Russian Civil War were more like conventional military campaigns than low intensity terrorism / counter terrorism operations.
Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2018 10:39 AM (Izzlo)
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and egged on by demagogues and outside agitators, they fought one another
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isn't that the profile of most internecine conflicts ?
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isn't that the profile of most internecine conflicts ?
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 10:40 AM (bUjCl)
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With all our talk about free helicopter rides for Leftists, I'm having trouble finding books about Pinochet & Allende that might be objective. I get the feeling most historians would be biased towards the Marxist.
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Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2018 10:26 AM (Izzlo)
I can't put my hand on it right now, but you might check Norman Friedman's Fifty Years' War. His discussion is brief, but the footnotes would point you further. I do recall that he cites Amnesty International's number showing that the alleged Pinochet body count is extremely inflated by the left.
I do think it's unreasonable to treat people killed in a civil war as the same kind of victims as those killed after it is won. And yes, I admit that means that some of Lenin's and Mao's victims fall into this class. Some, but a minority.
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Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2018 10:26 AM (Izzlo)
I can't put my hand on it right now, but you might check Norman Friedman's Fifty Years' War. His discussion is brief, but the footnotes would point you further. I do recall that he cites Amnesty International's number showing that the alleged Pinochet body count is extremely inflated by the left.
I do think it's unreasonable to treat people killed in a civil war as the same kind of victims as those killed after it is won. And yes, I admit that means that some of Lenin's and Mao's victims fall into this class. Some, but a minority.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 10:40 AM (59GGI)
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There was more to it, but I loaned that book to a friend who promptly never gave it back.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2018 10:31 AM (2K6fY)
I love the phrase "promptly never gave it back." I think I'm stealing it. Kudos.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2018 10:31 AM (2K6fY)
I love the phrase "promptly never gave it back." I think I'm stealing it. Kudos.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 10:42 AM (59GGI)
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Josephstan-
After reading about your employment situation, know that you're in my prayers as well.
After reading about your employment situation, know that you're in my prayers as well.
Posted by: JT at July 15, 2018 10:44 AM (Z7J1O)
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Oh, yes, I just remembered. There's a chapter in A Fighting Retreat, a history of the Brit army post WWII. The whole book is delightfully unapologetic. Like Mark Steyn, the author believes the British Empire was A Damed Good Thing. (The politicians don't fare so well. Surprisingly.)
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 10:44 AM (59GGI)
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142 There was more to it, but I loaned that book to a friend who promptly never gave it back.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2018 10:31 AM (2K6fY)
That happened with my "SC A History" book which was very expensive because it was a college text book. and I don't even remember who it was I loaned it to. It is now $33 at Amazon. I think I paid somewhere in the $40 range for it at a bookstore downtown.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2018 10:31 AM (2K6fY)
That happened with my "SC A History" book which was very expensive because it was a college text book. and I don't even remember who it was I loaned it to. It is now $33 at Amazon. I think I paid somewhere in the $40 range for it at a bookstore downtown.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 10:45 AM (mpXpK)
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If you want to understand Ireland, you will need to listen to every note and word recorded by Rory Gallagher. It's a start.
Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 10:48 AM (RuIsu)
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I'm on p46 of Black Cross by Greg Iles and it is VERY good.
I put it down on Thursday when I came into possession of Night School, a Reacher novel by Lee Child.
I'd read it before, but the Reacher novels are like crack to me.
I'm done with it and will resume reading Black Cross.
I put it down on Thursday when I came into possession of Night School, a Reacher novel by Lee Child.
I'd read it before, but the Reacher novels are like crack to me.
I'm done with it and will resume reading Black Cross.
Posted by: JT at July 15, 2018 10:49 AM (AY9Kd)
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>>>Like Mark Steyn, the author believes the British Empire was A Damed Good Thing.<<<
I'll have to agree with Mark Steyn. Those fake lips and plumped tits and asses in Britain are forever changing beauty standards and the world of high fashion.
I'll have to agree with Mark Steyn. Those fake lips and plumped tits and asses in Britain are forever changing beauty standards and the world of high fashion.
Posted by: Fritz at July 15, 2018 10:50 AM (eAr55)
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157 Oh, yes, I just remembered. There's a chapter in A Fighting Retreat, a history of the Brit army post WWII. The whole book is delightfully unapologetic. Like Mark Steyn, the author believes the British Empire was A Damed Good Thing. (The politicians don't fare so well. Surprisingly.)
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George, you are aware that the price for American Lend Lease and military entry into WWII by FDR was the British had to agree to decolonization? We also required them to share all of their top secret developments. The most immediate profitable being radar but the other big one was television.
I agree the British Empire was the major driving force for spreading modernity to the world. I wish they had not bugged out from Africa when they did. Africa desperately needs adult supervision.
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George, you are aware that the price for American Lend Lease and military entry into WWII by FDR was the British had to agree to decolonization? We also required them to share all of their top secret developments. The most immediate profitable being radar but the other big one was television.
I agree the British Empire was the major driving force for spreading modernity to the world. I wish they had not bugged out from Africa when they did. Africa desperately needs adult supervision.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 10:50 AM (vV/gB)
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I'm not an expert on The Troubles, but I knew older Irishmen who supported them---from the safety of the US.
Still, that march that the Orangemen have every year through Catholic neighborhoods is really a dick move. It would be like the Klan (assuming it had real clout among white people, which it doesn't) marching through black neighborhoods. Would anyone here complain if they got their asses kicked by the residents?
Still, that march that the Orangemen have every year through Catholic neighborhoods is really a dick move. It would be like the Klan (assuming it had real clout among white people, which it doesn't) marching through black neighborhoods. Would anyone here complain if they got their asses kicked by the residents?
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 10:50 AM (y8Foj)
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I'll have to agree with Mark Steyn. Those fake lips and plumped tits and asses in Britain are forever changing beauty standards and the world of high fashion.
Posted by: Fritz
And women's fashions are changing there as well.
Posted by: Fritz
And women's fashions are changing there as well.
Posted by: JT at July 15, 2018 10:52 AM (AY9Kd)
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156 - Thank you
Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2018 10:52 AM (Izzlo)
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If you want to understand Ireland, you will need to listen to every note and word recorded by Rory Gallagher. It's a start.
Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 10:48 AM (RuIsu)
If you want to understand Ireland, you will need to listen to the Pogues.
There. Done.
Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 10:48 AM (RuIsu)
If you want to understand Ireland, you will need to listen to the Pogues.
There. Done.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 10:52 AM (cY3LT)
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Anyway, near as I can understand, there are (or were) a number of different Irish groups fighting the British, buit they couldn't agree on goals or methods.
In other words, the Spanish Civil War.
Anyway, near as I can understand, there are (or were) a number of different Irish groups fighting the British, buit they couldn't agree on goals or methods.
In other words, the Spanish Civil War.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2018 10:54 AM (eXA4G)
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I read "The Rubber Band" a Nero Wolfe book from the late 1930s. Always a pleasure to revisit the brownstone house. There are no bad Nero Wolfe stories, just some are better than others.
Also, I've been reading about drawing, not so much for technique but learning to see and enjoying the process of drawing and painting. Learning to see more and better was part of the attraction of photgraphy and doing so truly enriched my life. I'm hoping to take it to another level.
Also, I've been reading about drawing, not so much for technique but learning to see and enjoying the process of drawing and painting. Learning to see more and better was part of the attraction of photgraphy and doing so truly enriched my life. I'm hoping to take it to another level.
Posted by: JTB at July 15, 2018 10:54 AM (V+03K)
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Getting rid of the British Empire was a good thing. Too bad they continue to live with delusions of past grandeur and behave like the Empire is still intact.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 10:55 AM (bUjCl)
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If you want to understand Ireland, you will need to listen to every note and word recorded by Rory Gallagher. It's a start.
Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 10:48 AM (RuIsu)
Gallager, a Catholic from Ulster, once played a concert at the height of The Troubles that was attended by Catholics and Protestants. He'd been urged to cancel the show because of the expectation of violence, but he insisted the show go on.
There was peace that night.
Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 10:48 AM (RuIsu)
Gallager, a Catholic from Ulster, once played a concert at the height of The Troubles that was attended by Catholics and Protestants. He'd been urged to cancel the show because of the expectation of violence, but he insisted the show go on.
There was peace that night.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 10:56 AM (y8Foj)
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many years ago a light went on and i saw gerry adams. sinn fein and the new ira not as part of the irish rebellion, but as the local outbreak of 60's radicalism that included s.d.s., red army faction, beider-meinhof, shining path, etc., those "youthful idealists" out to change the world who all devolved into lethal, nihilistic violence and then as they entered middle age they dropped their agendas and entered the bourgoisiie or academia or the grave. gerry adams acting out his version of youth culture left a trail of murders and little else. thanks a lot 60's yutes.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 10:56 AM (Pg+x7)
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If you want to understand Ireland, you will need to listen to the Pogues.
There. Done.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 10:52 AM (cY3LT)
And if you need to understand Irish dentistry, take a look at Shane MacGowan
There. Done.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 10:52 AM (cY3LT)
And if you need to understand Irish dentistry, take a look at Shane MacGowan
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 10:57 AM (y8Foj)
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OT Just watched the Frogs and Croats stand and sing their national
anthems. I'm so so proud of our NFL sportsmen. ////
anthems. I'm so so proud of our NFL sportsmen. ////
Posted by: norman at July 15, 2018 10:58 AM (gLp8g)
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Talk about someone that needs the shit kicked out of them
https://spectator.org/thunder-strzok/
go watch screen shot at bottom.
https://spectator.org/thunder-strzok/
go watch screen shot at bottom.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 10:58 AM (JFO2v)
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many years ago a light went on and i saw gerry adams. sinn fein and the new ira not as part of the irish rebellion, but as the local outbreak of 60's radicalism that included s.d.s., red army faction, beider-meinhof, shining path, etc., those "youthful idealists" out to change the world who all devolved into lethal, nihilistic violence and then as they entered middle age they dropped their agendas and entered the bourgoisiie or academia or the grave. gerry adams acting out his version of youth culture left a trail of murders and little else. thanks a lot 60's yutes.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 10:56 AM (Pg+x7)
Good Point.
And all the 'em were on the payroll of the Soviet Union....
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 10:56 AM (Pg+x7)
Good Point.
And all the 'em were on the payroll of the Soviet Union....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 10:58 AM (y8Foj)
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gerry adams acting out his version of youth culture left a trail of murders and little else
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Adams seems like first class demagogue and a adherent to ends justify the means school of political thought
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Adams seems like first class demagogue and a adherent to ends justify the means school of political thought
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 10:59 AM (bUjCl)
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163 I'm not an expert on The Troubles, but I knew older Irishmen who supported them---from the safety of the US.
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I escorted a Royal Marine Colonel to our Mess Night at Quantico back in the early 1980s. He had served several tours in Northern Ireland. His stories were quite jolting. The one that stands out is the retired Irish Catholic Royal Navy sailor who liked to chum it up with the Royal Marines while on patrol in his neighborhood. Seems the IRA thought he needed to be taught a lesson. They visited him one night and promptly kneecapped both of his knees. The guy was in his seventies and just missed the comradeship between sailors and Marines.
The good news is I found out what a Brit means by ordering a Horse's Neck - brandy and ginger. Not a bad drink.
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I escorted a Royal Marine Colonel to our Mess Night at Quantico back in the early 1980s. He had served several tours in Northern Ireland. His stories were quite jolting. The one that stands out is the retired Irish Catholic Royal Navy sailor who liked to chum it up with the Royal Marines while on patrol in his neighborhood. Seems the IRA thought he needed to be taught a lesson. They visited him one night and promptly kneecapped both of his knees. The guy was in his seventies and just missed the comradeship between sailors and Marines.
The good news is I found out what a Brit means by ordering a Horse's Neck - brandy and ginger. Not a bad drink.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 11:00 AM (vV/gB)
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Hello book rons!
Wanna mention that amazon is doing a kindle unlimited deal for bew subscribers with prime - 3 months for 99c - for prime day tomorrow
(I did a post on it, in nic)
Currently on the way to the beach, though it's raining here
#aquation
Wanna mention that amazon is doing a kindle unlimited deal for bew subscribers with prime - 3 months for 99c - for prime day tomorrow
(I did a post on it, in nic)
Currently on the way to the beach, though it's raining here
#aquation
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:00 AM (88cDs)
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George, you are aware that the price for American Lend Lease and military entry into WWII by FDR was the British had to agree to decolonization? We also required them to share all of their top secret developments. The most immediate profitable being radar but the other big one was television.
I agree the British Empire was the major driving force for spreading modernity to the world. I wish they had not bugged out from Africa when they did. Africa desperately needs adult supervision.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 10:50 AM (vV/gB)
1. Well, yes, but Churchill was cagey enough to avoid a complete commitment to do so (as was DeGaulle).
One other thing they helped out with, I hadn't known until fairly recently, was the fighter direction methods which arose first from the RAF, and then developed further by the RN. When HMS Victorious served with us in the Pacific, we got their input. I got this from Friedman's Fighters Over the Fleet*.
2. The timing for the dissolution of the empire was particularly unfortunate for the former colonies. It came exactly at a time when the three-bong-hit socialism of my youth was maximally in vogue. And they paid dearly for that. (At least India seems to have straightened out some. And Singapore never fell for it.)
*Yes, he is my favorite living author. He has a new one, which was supposed to come out last month. But as always seems to happen with him, the book has been delayed. No doubt to ship at the same time as N A M Rodger's next, just to hit my bank account as badly as possible.
I agree the British Empire was the major driving force for spreading modernity to the world. I wish they had not bugged out from Africa when they did. Africa desperately needs adult supervision.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 10:50 AM (vV/gB)
1. Well, yes, but Churchill was cagey enough to avoid a complete commitment to do so (as was DeGaulle).
One other thing they helped out with, I hadn't known until fairly recently, was the fighter direction methods which arose first from the RAF, and then developed further by the RN. When HMS Victorious served with us in the Pacific, we got their input. I got this from Friedman's Fighters Over the Fleet*.
2. The timing for the dissolution of the empire was particularly unfortunate for the former colonies. It came exactly at a time when the three-bong-hit socialism of my youth was maximally in vogue. And they paid dearly for that. (At least India seems to have straightened out some. And Singapore never fell for it.)
*Yes, he is my favorite living author. He has a new one, which was supposed to come out last month. But as always seems to happen with him, the book has been delayed. No doubt to ship at the same time as N A M Rodger's next, just to hit my bank account as badly as possible.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:01 AM (59GGI)
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Getting rid of the British Empire was a good thing. Too bad they continue to live with delusions of past grandeur and behave like the Empire is still intact.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 10:55 AM (bUjCl)
That sounds more like the Frogs, in the 70+ years post-WWII. In fact, they're still trying to wield imperial-style power in Africa, although they've been keeping it low-key, and the press has played along.
Getting rid of the British Empire was a good thing. Too bad they continue to live with delusions of past grandeur and behave like the Empire is still intact.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 10:55 AM (bUjCl)
That sounds more like the Frogs, in the 70+ years post-WWII. In fact, they're still trying to wield imperial-style power in Africa, although they've been keeping it low-key, and the press has played along.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2018 11:01 AM (eXA4G)
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If you want to understand Ireland, you will need to listen to the Pogues.
There. Done.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 10:52 AM (cY3LT)
And if you need to understand Irish dentistry, take a look at Shane MacGowan
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 10:57 AM (y8Foj)
Yeah, I've got Rory Gallagher sampling in the background here, because I wasn't terribly familiar. He sounds like a fairly typical bluesy rock singer of a certain era. Not particularly Irish.
Sounds a lot like Eric Clapton, actually.
Whereas, good grief.. Shane and the Pogues are so freakin' Ireland, they piss and bleed green.
There. Done.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 10:52 AM (cY3LT)
And if you need to understand Irish dentistry, take a look at Shane MacGowan
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 10:57 AM (y8Foj)
Yeah, I've got Rory Gallagher sampling in the background here, because I wasn't terribly familiar. He sounds like a fairly typical bluesy rock singer of a certain era. Not particularly Irish.
Sounds a lot like Eric Clapton, actually.
Whereas, good grief.. Shane and the Pogues are so freakin' Ireland, they piss and bleed green.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 11:02 AM (cY3LT)
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 11:03 AM (x6uMU)
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Yup... it was like somebody took a lake and just dumped it. Water pouring straight down. We lost power for a bit. Thankfully it was cooled off by then, and it came back on before dark.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 10:24 AM (cY3LT)
Soooo...how 'bout them Cards?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 10:24 AM (cY3LT)
Soooo...how 'bout them Cards?
Posted by: Tami at July 15, 2018 11:03 AM (Enq6K)
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That sounds more like the Frogs, in the 70+ years post-WWII. In fact, they're still trying to wield imperial-style power in Africa, although they've been keeping it low-key, and the press has played along.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2018 11:01 AM (eXA4G)
both - the French are reliving the heydays of 18th century, the Brits of the 19th
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2018 11:01 AM (eXA4G)
both - the French are reliving the heydays of 18th century, the Brits of the 19th
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 11:03 AM (bUjCl)
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Josephistan, you're in SE PA, right?
What kinda work do you do?
What kinda work do you do?
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:03 AM (88cDs)
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(170) I have the DVD about that show around here somewhere. I love unofficial real history stuff and guitar maniacs.
Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 11:04 AM (RuIsu)
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I ask one bit of advice. Just how much longer can we use Amazon? They have been showing the now standard move to corporate SJW-ism.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:04 AM (59GGI)
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And if you need to understand Irish dentistry, take a look at Shane MacGowan
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 10:57 AM (y8Foj)
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Shane was classmates and friends with Thomas Dolby. He had an encyclopaedic knowledge of music and pointed Dolby in the direction of punk before punk was a thing.
Dolby's memoir The Speed of Sound is a good telling of the beginning of New Wave and Electronica.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 10:57 AM (y8Foj)
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Shane was classmates and friends with Thomas Dolby. He had an encyclopaedic knowledge of music and pointed Dolby in the direction of punk before punk was a thing.
Dolby's memoir The Speed of Sound is a good telling of the beginning of New Wave and Electronica.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:05 AM (gUCYC)
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Funny how the "top" leaders of Sinn Fein and the Provos all ended up wealthy if they lived.
Gerry Adams and Martin Mcguinness lined their pockets quite well indeed.
Gerry Adams and Martin Mcguinness lined their pockets quite well indeed.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2018 11:05 AM (EoRCO)
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With all our talk about free helicopter rides for Leftists, I'm having trouble finding books about Pinochet & Allende that might be objective. I get the feeling most historians would be biased towards the Marxist.
And as it happens, I do have a book about Northern Ireland in my library - "The Irish Troubles" by J. Bower Bell, 1993.
Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2018 10:26 AM (Izzlo)
Please let me know if you find one on Pinochet, guy on Twitter tweeted out his fathers story on what life was like before Pinochet, If you didn't have the party ID you got food after the Party members.. I have never heard of stories like that. There is a reason that Chile is the safest country in South America.
And as it happens, I do have a book about Northern Ireland in my library - "The Irish Troubles" by J. Bower Bell, 1993.
Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2018 10:26 AM (Izzlo)
Please let me know if you find one on Pinochet, guy on Twitter tweeted out his fathers story on what life was like before Pinochet, If you didn't have the party ID you got food after the Party members.. I have never heard of stories like that. There is a reason that Chile is the safest country in South America.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 15, 2018 11:06 AM (dKiJG)
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"but the other big one was television."
Television was invented in the US in the 1920s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo_Farnsworth
Television was invented in the US in the 1920s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo_Farnsworth
Posted by: Apostate at July 15, 2018 11:07 AM (z2FAZ)
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The Pogues, "Fairytale of New York," posted before... I always try to get through this with dry eyes, rarely succeed:
https://tinyurl.com/yavo7e3q
https://tinyurl.com/yavo7e3q
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 11:07 AM (cY3LT)
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134 During WWII, Burgess' wife was raped by four US servicemen and miscarried. Burgess was away with the war, and denied leave.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 10:25 AM (pV/54)
And supposedly the chapter where li'l Alex and his droogs drive a stolen car out to the country, find a remote house, break in, and rape the wife is based on that incident.
Kubrick's filming of that scene is brilliantly horrific.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 10:25 AM (pV/54)
And supposedly the chapter where li'l Alex and his droogs drive a stolen car out to the country, find a remote house, break in, and rape the wife is based on that incident.
Kubrick's filming of that scene is brilliantly horrific.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 15, 2018 11:07 AM (JQveK)
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Captain Hate--I loved The Night Circus. Very dream-like (hence, Le Cirque de Reves). I thought about the book for some time after I finished it.
Posted by: Rana at July 15, 2018 11:08 AM (sy2Wl)
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187 there is not much choice if you want to support indy conservative writers
They are completely blacklisted by trad publishers
They are completely blacklisted by trad publishers
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:08 AM (88cDs)
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Finally finished Saint Peter's Fair (Brother Cadfael series--thanks to Fen for point me towards that way back when!) and got through People's Republic. Maybe it's my depression speaking, but I feel like the scenario he's painting is a rosy one...
Posted by: Brother Cavil says at July 15, 2018 11:09 AM (lLeln)
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I went to Santiago Chile a few times for work years ago. You can see pockmarks in the stone walls of buildings downtown, mostly 3.5 to 4 feet high
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 11:10 AM (pV/54)
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Morning all. Sucks being the first ready for church.
Posted by: rickb223 Super Elite at July 15, 2018 11:10 AM (J/LQs)
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... i don't see anything akin to 60's social change that might serve as the loam for revolution 2.0 or civil war 2.0.
several years ago i was having lunch at a nice restaurant and overheard a middle-aged guy at the next table complaining that this new generation wasn't radical or rebellious. he wanted someone to make a movie about che gueverra (which someone did) to inspire a new generation. i said to him "don't forget to show all the people che murdered - that will inspire young people..." he didn't like my suggestion.
several years ago i was having lunch at a nice restaurant and overheard a middle-aged guy at the next table complaining that this new generation wasn't radical or rebellious. he wanted someone to make a movie about che gueverra (which someone did) to inspire a new generation. i said to him "don't forget to show all the people che murdered - that will inspire young people..." he didn't like my suggestion.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:10 AM (Pg+x7)
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Please let me know if you find one on Pinochet, guy on Twitter tweeted out his fathers story on what life was like before Pinochet, If you didn't have the party ID you got food after the Party members.. I have never heard of stories like that. There is a reason that Chile is the safest country in South America.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 15, 2018 11:06 AM (dKiJG)
For all of his faults, Pinochet set up the rule of law in Chile, thus setting it apart from most other Latin American countries. This is his legacy.
And it's why the left hates him almost as much as they do Donald Trump.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 15, 2018 11:06 AM (dKiJG)
For all of his faults, Pinochet set up the rule of law in Chile, thus setting it apart from most other Latin American countries. This is his legacy.
And it's why the left hates him almost as much as they do Donald Trump.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 15, 2018 11:10 AM (JQveK)
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2. The timing for the dissolution of the empire was particularly unfortunate for the former colonies. It came exactly at a time when the three-bong-hit socialism of my youth was maximally in vogue. And they paid dearly for that. (At least India seems to have straightened out some. And Singapore never fell for it.)
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You do know Obama was the scion of two generations of Marxist CIA operatives? The CIA sought to retard Soviet grooming of newly independent colonies by soaking up available leftists during the 50s and 60s. The hub for US grooming of colonial African and Asian leftist players was Honolulu and the University of Hawaii, where we find the Dunhams and their horny daughter. So now you know how a bastard Kenyan ended up in Indonesia and as President was quite comfortable undermining his own country using the CIA. Its a family tradition.
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You do know Obama was the scion of two generations of Marxist CIA operatives? The CIA sought to retard Soviet grooming of newly independent colonies by soaking up available leftists during the 50s and 60s. The hub for US grooming of colonial African and Asian leftist players was Honolulu and the University of Hawaii, where we find the Dunhams and their horny daughter. So now you know how a bastard Kenyan ended up in Indonesia and as President was quite comfortable undermining his own country using the CIA. Its a family tradition.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 11:11 AM (vV/gB)
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Yup... it was like somebody took a lake and just dumped it. Water pouring straight down. We lost power for a bit. Thankfully it was cooled off by then, and it came back on before dark.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 10:24 AM (cY3LT)
Soooo...how 'bout them Cards?
Posted by: Tami at July 15, 2018 11:03 AM (Enq6K)
Goodbye, Mike Metheny.
If it had been up to me he would have been out after the 2014 season. For what he did to Michael Wacha.
And Oscar Taveras.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 10:24 AM (cY3LT)
Soooo...how 'bout them Cards?
Posted by: Tami at July 15, 2018 11:03 AM (Enq6K)
Goodbye, Mike Metheny.
If it had been up to me he would have been out after the 2014 season. For what he did to Michael Wacha.
And Oscar Taveras.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 11:11 AM (cY3LT)
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Goodbye, Mike Metheny.
If it had been up to me he would have been out after the 2014 season. For what he did to Michael Wacha.
And Oscar Taveras.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 11:11 AM (cY3LT)
Matheny, Mabry and Mueller. Seems to be a pattern...now if they'd just get rid of Mozeliak all the M's would be gone!
If it had been up to me he would have been out after the 2014 season. For what he did to Michael Wacha.
And Oscar Taveras.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 11:11 AM (cY3LT)
Matheny, Mabry and Mueller. Seems to be a pattern...now if they'd just get rid of Mozeliak all the M's would be gone!
Posted by: Tami at July 15, 2018 11:15 AM (Enq6K)
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I ask one bit of advice. Just how much longer can we
use Amazon? They have been showing the now standard move to corporate
SJW-ism.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:04 AM (59GGI)
Everyone has to decide that for themselves. I am long over Amazon. They bought the Washington Compost. They bought Whole Foods. And now the they are pretty much forcing Whole Foods customers to join Amazon Prime. Smart tactics for sure, there is a a plan.
I guarantee I have used Amazon longer than most, way back when they sold books for a living. Now people use if for groceries and even instant delivery chow. Amazon is smart, they get you to depend on it first, the SJW comes later.
I am pretty much off all silicon valley/big net media brands. As a former early adopter, I make a point to use small bus. brick and mortar these days.
use Amazon? They have been showing the now standard move to corporate
SJW-ism.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:04 AM (59GGI)
Everyone has to decide that for themselves. I am long over Amazon. They bought the Washington Compost. They bought Whole Foods. And now the they are pretty much forcing Whole Foods customers to join Amazon Prime. Smart tactics for sure, there is a a plan.
I guarantee I have used Amazon longer than most, way back when they sold books for a living. Now people use if for groceries and even instant delivery chow. Amazon is smart, they get you to depend on it first, the SJW comes later.
I am pretty much off all silicon valley/big net media brands. As a former early adopter, I make a point to use small bus. brick and mortar these days.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:17 AM (n13/j)
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191 "but the other big one was television."
Television was invented in the US in the 1920s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo_Farnsworth
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Yes and no.
http://www.edinformatics.com/inventions_inventors/television.htm
Television was invented in the US in the 1920s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo_Farnsworth
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Yes and no.
http://www.edinformatics.com/inventions_inventors/television.htm
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 11:17 AM (vV/gB)
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France scores on a free kick awarded when a frog took a creative dive.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 11:18 AM (pV/54)
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When I was a kid, I would go to Whidbey Island and stay at the Captain Whidbey Inn. It was a fabulous place with a nice upstairs reading area and library. Probably still is
Posted by: REDACTED at July 15, 2018 11:18 AM (TdS5t)
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I like pitcher books; who need the fuggin words anyway. Especially the pitcher books with nekkid wimminzes.
/sarc off
/sarc off
Posted by: Bonecrusher at July 15, 2018 11:19 AM (hrRsI)
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France up by a field goal.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2018 11:19 AM (ccxf2)
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Classic Barbarian Strategy. Ireland. Chile. Russia.
China. Don't matter where.
Identify a beaten up, downtrodden, pissed off group of people full of hatred and with nothing to lose, round them up, and turn them into cannon fodder for your "Revolution" while you watch from a safe distance.
China. Don't matter where.
Identify a beaten up, downtrodden, pissed off group of people full of hatred and with nothing to lose, round them up, and turn them into cannon fodder for your "Revolution" while you watch from a safe distance.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2018 11:20 AM (BRvh1)
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If you are a bad guy. You would rather be captured by Americans than the French. 'nuff said.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:20 AM (n13/j)
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Im still reading about Lewis and Clark's journey. I (like they) need to pick up the pace.
Posted by: LAsue at July 15, 2018 10:00 AM (Z48ZB)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------On their return trip, they stopped for lunch where our town's big park is and ate dog for lunch. Those Newfies were great. Use them to haul supplies until the supplies are gone, then they become a meal.
Im still reading about Lewis and Clark's journey. I (like they) need to pick up the pace.
Posted by: LAsue at July 15, 2018 10:00 AM (Z48ZB)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------On their return trip, they stopped for lunch where our town's big park is and ate dog for lunch. Those Newfies were great. Use them to haul supplies until the supplies are gone, then they become a meal.
Posted by: Three and One at July 15, 2018 11:20 AM (sPoFC)
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Just finished Martin Caidin's "Ghosts of the Air", a series of true stories of aviation haunting and strange occurrences in the air.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at July 15, 2018 11:20 AM (bML9A)
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Wife is not appreciating my constant repetition of Mmm-bappe. She knew I was autistic when she married me, definitely.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2018 11:21 AM (ccxf2)
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I have read that the Scots were an Irish/Celtic tribe that migrated from Ireland to Scotland when the Picts were the predominant force there. I realize that migrations during the time of the Roman hegemony were primarily about the acquisition of land. But, I find the Scottish migration particularly interesting because of the difference between our contemporary Irish and Scottish. I realize that the modern Scots are an amalgamation of Scotti, Picts, Anglo-Saxons, various Scandinavian groups, Normans, and other Celtic groups. Think of the gross characterizations of the Irish and the Scottish. The Irish are characterized as what we would call right-brained, the Scottish are characterized as left-brained. Think of it as Arts/Imagination vs. Logic/Mathematics. The Irish have a loquacious charm, the Scots are a taciturn people. The Irish lilt is melodic, the Scottish brogue sounds rather harsh. The Irish have wonderful music, the Scots have one of the most obnoxious sounding instrument in the world as their representative. The Irish are characterized as being generous and friendly, the Scots as unfriendly skinflints. The Scots have a history of notable scientists, inventors, engineers, and mathematicians, the Irish, meh. They both like to drink, although the Irish have a reputation for liking it too much. They both have some of the most beautiful women in the world. I like to picture the initial migration of the Scots away from Ireland as being a familial separation. I like to think he Scots were sick of the laid back personality of the other Irish because they were unorganized, flighty, and tended to be artistic pansies, as opposed to being pragmatic, hard-working haggis eating assholes.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 15, 2018 11:24 AM (9BLnV)
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Captain Hate--I loved The Night Circus. Very dream-like (hence, Le Cirque de Reves). I thought about the book for some time after I finished it.
Posted by: Rana at July 15, 2018 11:08 AM (sy2Wl)
That is possibly the highest praise you can give a book.
I'm also rereading a different translation of The Master and Margarita which reads much less clunky than the censored version I bought from the commie fucks at Lighthouse Books in San Franshitsco, which dovetails nicely with it, particularly when the Devil shows up in Moscow and starts doing magic tricks and doesn't take kindly to party apparatchiks demanding that he explains how he does his tricks. There's some debate on how much Stalin liked Bulgakov with "like" being a problematic term for a mass murdering tyrant. It could just mean that Bulgakov's disfigured body was found in a mass grave with only half his fingernails pulled out.
Stalin had a weird hardon for US movies, on which the movie "The Inner Circle" was based which is highly recommended. Can you imagine if he commissioned Meathead to do "Stand By Me" only instead of four kids camping finding a dead body you have a group of polack kids finding Katyn? And blaming it on Drumpf.
Posted by: Rana at July 15, 2018 11:08 AM (sy2Wl)
That is possibly the highest praise you can give a book.
I'm also rereading a different translation of The Master and Margarita which reads much less clunky than the censored version I bought from the commie fucks at Lighthouse Books in San Franshitsco, which dovetails nicely with it, particularly when the Devil shows up in Moscow and starts doing magic tricks and doesn't take kindly to party apparatchiks demanding that he explains how he does his tricks. There's some debate on how much Stalin liked Bulgakov with "like" being a problematic term for a mass murdering tyrant. It could just mean that Bulgakov's disfigured body was found in a mass grave with only half his fingernails pulled out.
Stalin had a weird hardon for US movies, on which the movie "The Inner Circle" was based which is highly recommended. Can you imagine if he commissioned Meathead to do "Stand By Me" only instead of four kids camping finding a dead body you have a group of polack kids finding Katyn? And blaming it on Drumpf.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 15, 2018 11:25 AM (y7DUB)
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I found the ending disappointing.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 09:25 AM (L2Znf)
well, so did the main character, for what that's worth.
I found the ending disappointing.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 09:25 AM (L2Znf)
well, so did the main character, for what that's worth.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2018 11:25 AM (2K6fY)
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Goodbye, Mike Metheny.
If it had been up to me he would have been out after the 2014 season. For what he did to Michael Wacha.
And Oscar Taveras.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 11:11 AM (cY3LT)
Matheny, Mabry and Mueller. Seems to be a pattern...now if they'd just get rid of Mozeliak all the M's would be gone!
Posted by: Tami at July 15, 2018 11:15 AM (Enq6K)
I'm so close to not caring anymore, at all. Steroids still dominate the game. Either the players or the balls are juiced. Or both. I don't know exactly how, but I believe it is condoned by the league. Which wants home runs and strikeouts to be the norm. Which is not baseball.
If it had been up to me he would have been out after the 2014 season. For what he did to Michael Wacha.
And Oscar Taveras.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 11:11 AM (cY3LT)
Matheny, Mabry and Mueller. Seems to be a pattern...now if they'd just get rid of Mozeliak all the M's would be gone!
Posted by: Tami at July 15, 2018 11:15 AM (Enq6K)
I'm so close to not caring anymore, at all. Steroids still dominate the game. Either the players or the balls are juiced. Or both. I don't know exactly how, but I believe it is condoned by the league. Which wants home runs and strikeouts to be the norm. Which is not baseball.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 11:26 AM (cY3LT)
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215 mountain folk tend to be hard, stingy, stoic, and good at weaving
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:28 AM (88cDs)
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Here I am enjoying my Major Coup - a 5 Disc CD Player I bought at Goodwill for $9.99. Hooked up to my old stereo and speakers I can now listen to endless jazz without the need to get up and change an album. Oh, and you can buy nice CDs for next to nothing.
How smart and successful am I?
How smart and successful am I?
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 11:30 AM (vV/gB)
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Can you imagine if he commissioned Meathead to do
"Stand By Me" only instead of four kids camping finding a dead body you
have a group of polack kids finding Katyn? And blaming it on Drumpf.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 15, 2018 11:25 AM (y7DUB)
We would like to speak to you about rights to option your story.
"Stand By Me" only instead of four kids camping finding a dead body you
have a group of polack kids finding Katyn? And blaming it on Drumpf.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 15, 2018 11:25 AM (y7DUB)
We would like to speak to you about rights to option your story.
Posted by: Hollywood at July 15, 2018 11:30 AM (yzxic)
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I ask one bit of advice. Just how much longer can we use Amazon? They have been showing the now standard move to corporate SJW-ism.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:04 AM (59GGI)
there is not much choice if you want to support indy conservative writers
They are completely blacklisted by trad publishers
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:08 AM (88cDs)
It may not be possible to avoid amazon for indy conservative writers, but it is for just about everything else.
I have cut my amazon purchases by around 95% over the last year. Walmart, ebay and the rest of the big box retailers have definitely upped their game. I usually research products on amazon and then research the best prices using google shopping and a few big box web sites. It takes a little bit longer, but I usually find the best prices somewhere other than amazon and it is very satisfying NOT to be sending my money to Jeff Bezos and his left-wing propaganda machine.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:04 AM (59GGI)
there is not much choice if you want to support indy conservative writers
They are completely blacklisted by trad publishers
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:08 AM (88cDs)
It may not be possible to avoid amazon for indy conservative writers, but it is for just about everything else.
I have cut my amazon purchases by around 95% over the last year. Walmart, ebay and the rest of the big box retailers have definitely upped their game. I usually research products on amazon and then research the best prices using google shopping and a few big box web sites. It takes a little bit longer, but I usually find the best prices somewhere other than amazon and it is very satisfying NOT to be sending my money to Jeff Bezos and his left-wing propaganda machine.
Posted by: cool breeze at July 15, 2018 11:30 AM (UGKMd)
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208 I like pitcher books; who need the fuggin words anyway. Especially the pitcher books with nekkid wimminzes.
/sarc off
Posted by: Bonecrusher at July 15, 2018 11:19 AM (hrRsI)
Well, Christie Mathewson's Pitching in a Pinch doesn't have nekkid wimminzes, but it's a great book.
/sarc off
Posted by: Bonecrusher at July 15, 2018 11:19 AM (hrRsI)
Well, Christie Mathewson's Pitching in a Pinch doesn't have nekkid wimminzes, but it's a great book.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:30 AM (59GGI)
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several years ago i was having lunch at a nice restaurant and overheard a middle-aged guy at the next table complaining that this new generation wasn't radical or rebellious. he wanted someone to make a movie about che gueverra (which someone did) to inspire a new generation. i said to him "don't forget to show all the people che murdered - that will inspire young people..." he didn't like my suggestion.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:10 AM (Pg+x7)
It's not for lack of trying. Every session of Congress that he was in, Charlie Rangel would submit a bill to re-institute the draft. He quite openly stated that he had no interest in military preparedness and it was a matter of trying to get young adults pissed off enough to take to the streets. He understood that for the young rank-and-file in the 60s, the draft was one of the most important factors getting them to be politically active in leftist circles.
several years ago i was having lunch at a nice restaurant and overheard a middle-aged guy at the next table complaining that this new generation wasn't radical or rebellious. he wanted someone to make a movie about che gueverra (which someone did) to inspire a new generation. i said to him "don't forget to show all the people che murdered - that will inspire young people..." he didn't like my suggestion.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:10 AM (Pg+x7)
It's not for lack of trying. Every session of Congress that he was in, Charlie Rangel would submit a bill to re-institute the draft. He quite openly stated that he had no interest in military preparedness and it was a matter of trying to get young adults pissed off enough to take to the streets. He understood that for the young rank-and-file in the 60s, the draft was one of the most important factors getting them to be politically active in leftist circles.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2018 11:31 AM (eXA4G)
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Cool breeze,we don't order nuch on Amazon either. Pet stuff is usually from Chewy, food etc from the warehouse club
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:32 AM (88cDs)
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Don't kid yourself over the Scots taking a back seat to the Irish in drinking. Glasgow is a major haven for incomprehensible sots. Wee heavies are one of my favorite craft beer malt bomb styles.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 15, 2018 11:33 AM (y7DUB)
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(203) Mozeliak looks like the kid who was never allowed to play outside. Probably a good call by the parent(s).
Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 11:33 AM (RuIsu)
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I just ordered Rain Dogs: A Detective Sean Duffy Novel on Amazon, based on the recommendation above.
And a lot of vitamins. Bezos has to lose money on it.
So a push.
And a lot of vitamins. Bezos has to lose money on it.
So a push.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 11:34 AM (pV/54)
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The modern Millennial ethos is worrying because they did NOT rebel. They just took the leftist ideology their elders fed them and multiplied it by ten. They even denounced their own leftist teachers as not radical enough, which made them heretics. This is why college administrators bow down to them and apologize for themselves.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:34 AM (n13/j)
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For Irish history I recommend the Irish Century series by Morgan Llewellyn. Impeccably researched, very well written, they cover history from the Easter Rising to the Good Friday accords through the eyes of one family. They could be read individually without much trouble if you want the Troubles specifically.
Posted by: Zoomie at July 15, 2018 11:34 AM (buObY)
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France up by a field goal.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2018 11:19 AM (ccxf2)
So......3-0 France?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2018 11:19 AM (ccxf2)
So......3-0 France?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2018 11:35 AM (EoRCO)
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Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 15, 2018 11:24 AM (9BLnV)
It's really very simple to keep the three types of British Celts straight.
The Irish drink and sing.
The Welsh drink and steal.
The Scots drink and steal.
An Irish girl I know spewed her beer when I told her that. And you know what it takes to make them waste beer.
(And I suppose I ought to point out that I have all 3 in my background. Even here you have to be careful.)
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 15, 2018 11:24 AM (9BLnV)
It's really very simple to keep the three types of British Celts straight.
The Irish drink and sing.
The Welsh drink and steal.
The Scots drink and steal.
An Irish girl I know spewed her beer when I told her that. And you know what it takes to make them waste beer.
(And I suppose I ought to point out that I have all 3 in my background. Even here you have to be careful.)
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:35 AM (59GGI)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 11:35 AM (+y/Ru)
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France was up by a PAT, now it's 1-1, but the Frogs have a penalty kick.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 11:36 AM (fuK7c)
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Oregon Muse & Ignoramus
Anthony Burgess
disclaimer: I'm a fan of his work.
Now, that "my wife raped by GIs story": I submit the ward "alleged" needs to go in front of that story. The only source for it is Burgess himself.
Burgess was a prodigious liar. I doubt he would deny that charge very vehemently. Telling tall tales was part of his persona.
His first wife was a highly promiscuous drunk, who died as a result of her alcoholism.
Burgess was more-or-less anti-American, which may have played into the alleged rape allegation. He visited the USSR & wrote admiringly of it... often.
There is a pretty good bio of Burgess called (appx), "The Complete Truth About Anthony Burgess." The title is intended to be ironic, since he was inscrutable & inconsistent. The one thing EVERYONE who has studied Burgess' life can agree on is, he had a very casual relationship with facts on record.
Anthony Burgess
disclaimer: I'm a fan of his work.
Now, that "my wife raped by GIs story": I submit the ward "alleged" needs to go in front of that story. The only source for it is Burgess himself.
Burgess was a prodigious liar. I doubt he would deny that charge very vehemently. Telling tall tales was part of his persona.
His first wife was a highly promiscuous drunk, who died as a result of her alcoholism.
Burgess was more-or-less anti-American, which may have played into the alleged rape allegation. He visited the USSR & wrote admiringly of it... often.
There is a pretty good bio of Burgess called (appx), "The Complete Truth About Anthony Burgess." The title is intended to be ironic, since he was inscrutable & inconsistent. The one thing EVERYONE who has studied Burgess' life can agree on is, he had a very casual relationship with facts on record.
Posted by: strawdog at July 15, 2018 11:37 AM (Cssks)
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:37 AM (88cDs)
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234 France was up by a PAT, now it's 1-1, but the Frogs have a penalty kick.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 11:36 AM (fuK7c)
I wish the US would win the World Cup once just to piss off the rest of the world.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 11:36 AM (fuK7c)
I wish the US would win the World Cup once just to piss off the rest of the world.
Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2018 11:38 AM (Izzlo)
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The aforementioned Pogues, telling the story of the battle of Gallipoli:
https://tinyurl.com/y7wwsxd3
https://tinyurl.com/y7wwsxd3
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 11:39 AM (cY3LT)
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... amazon... hmmm... this just happened:
i bought some old exhibition catalogues from an art book dealer and complained that a catalogue i wanted was available at amazon but since i've never used amazon i didn't want to give them my credit card number and asked if her book store would buy it from amazon for me and i'd buy it from them. she replied that her store doesn't do that for clients (they just sell their inventory) but that i reminded her of her uncle, a retired lawyer who refuses to have a credit card, so she personally bought the book from amazon, had it sent to me and i just reimbursed her. i thought that was very nice!
i bought some old exhibition catalogues from an art book dealer and complained that a catalogue i wanted was available at amazon but since i've never used amazon i didn't want to give them my credit card number and asked if her book store would buy it from amazon for me and i'd buy it from them. she replied that her store doesn't do that for clients (they just sell their inventory) but that i reminded her of her uncle, a retired lawyer who refuses to have a credit card, so she personally bought the book from amazon, had it sent to me and i just reimbursed her. i thought that was very nice!
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:39 AM (Pg+x7)
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"The one thing EVERYONE who has studied Burgess' life can agree on is, he had a very casual relationship with facts on record."
So a Fabian fabulist.
So a Fabian fabulist.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 11:39 AM (pV/54)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:40 AM (gUCYC)
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Did the refs just hand the World Cup to France?
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 11:40 AM (pV/54)
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Oh,I borrowed a mystery from the library titled Ruff Justice solely because of the cover - it has a standard poodle on it that looks a lot like mine
Haven't read it yet
Also borrowed Medicus
Haven't read it yet
Also borrowed Medicus
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:40 AM (88cDs)
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In the Middle Ages the English, too, had the reputation of heavy drinking. That really stayed true at least until the Declaration. (Most of the signers were apparently pie-eyed by the time it was signed, judging by the amounts they were supplied.)
Read Pepys. It seems everyone was walking around half-crocked all the time. And William Byrd's diaries show that he needed a half-pint of rum just to see him through the ordeal of getting out of bed. (I've had mornings like that.)
Read Pepys. It seems everyone was walking around half-crocked all the time. And William Byrd's diaries show that he needed a half-pint of rum just to see him through the ordeal of getting out of bed. (I've had mornings like that.)
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:40 AM (59GGI)
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215 mountain folk tend to be hard, stingy, stoic, and good at weaving
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:28 AM (88cDs)
Those suckers are just bonkers for mithril too.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:28 AM (88cDs)
Those suckers are just bonkers for mithril too.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:40 AM (y87Qq)
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241 Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:35 AM (59GGI)
Don't the Welsh sing and steal?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:40 AM (gUCYC)
Yes, that was a typo. There's no correction feature here.
Don't the Welsh sing and steal?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:40 AM (gUCYC)
Yes, that was a typo. There's no correction feature here.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:41 AM (59GGI)
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It looks like Helion Books has a new book about Pinochet & Allende. Looks a little small for the price, but there's not much out there on the subject.
https://tinyurl.com/y9273npe
https://tinyurl.com/y9273npe
Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2018 11:42 AM (Izzlo)
248
Back in olden times people drank booze because you couldn't trust the water.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 11:43 AM (pV/54)
249
244 lack of potable water maybe?
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:43 AM (88cDs)
250
Ok you bunch of whining whiners. I just finished God Emperor of Dune and have started in on Heretics of Dune. What is the problem with God Emperor? It was fine. It's not as good as Dune of course; it's not even as good as the previous book, which seems to be a pattern in this series, but if you like Frank Herbert's writing style you'll probably like God Emperor.
Posted by: Jim S. at July 15, 2018 11:44 AM (ynUnH)
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How smart and successful am I?
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 11:30 AM (vV/gB)
considering that there are always 2 or 3 of them at my town dump recycle barn, for free, dunno
But what the hell can you by for ten bucks ??
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 11:30 AM (vV/gB)
considering that there are always 2 or 3 of them at my town dump recycle barn, for free, dunno
But what the hell can you by for ten bucks ??
Posted by: REDACTED at July 15, 2018 11:44 AM (TdS5t)
252
go watch screen shot at bottom.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 10:58 AM
Unbelievable. He's rocking back and forth smiling away, like he's playing with his own p*ssy.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 10:58 AM
Unbelievable. He's rocking back and forth smiling away, like he's playing with his own p*ssy.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 15, 2018 11:44 AM (LOgQ4)
253
Back in olden times people drank booze because you couldn't trust the water.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 11:43 AM (pV/54)
Why take chances now?
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 11:43 AM (pV/54)
Why take chances now?
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:44 AM (n13/j)
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Posted by: strawdog at July 15, 2018 11:37 AM (Cssks)
I really enjoyed his 1985 that talked about how schools became PC propaganda centers employing the totally worthless and how gangs of kids would break into library storage areas to read older works to get their kicks by reading something of substance and not mind deadening. I don't think he anticipated that the state would just destroy those works.
I really enjoyed his 1985 that talked about how schools became PC propaganda centers employing the totally worthless and how gangs of kids would break into library storage areas to read older works to get their kicks by reading something of substance and not mind deadening. I don't think he anticipated that the state would just destroy those works.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 15, 2018 11:44 AM (y7DUB)
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I've read (I think; I may have been drunk at the time) that the rise in popularity of coffee and tea really amped up productivity in Europe in the 18th Century.
Beer is a good source of cals for farm and field work, according to a big Midwestern kraut farmboy type I dated.
Beer is a good source of cals for farm and field work, according to a big Midwestern kraut farmboy type I dated.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:45 AM (gUCYC)
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lack of potable water maybe?
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:43 AM (88cDs)
Don't drink bong water.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:43 AM (88cDs)
Don't drink bong water.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:45 AM (n13/j)
257
The Irish drink and sing.
The Welsh drink and steal.
The Scots drink and steal.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:35 AM (59GGI)
So, what's the difference between the Welsh and Scots? Petty theft vs. livestock rustling?
The Welsh drink and steal.
The Scots drink and steal.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:35 AM (59GGI)
So, what's the difference between the Welsh and Scots? Petty theft vs. livestock rustling?
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 15, 2018 11:46 AM (9BLnV)
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Read Pepys. It seems everyone was walking around half-crocked all the time. And William Byrd's diaries show that he needed a half-pint of rum just to see him through the ordeal of getting out of bed. (I've had mornings like that.)
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:40 AM (59GGI)
somewhere on humanprogress.org is an article wherein it is argued that western civ didn't really get going until trade routes to the East opened up and coffee beans came to Europe. Coffee supplanted booze as the preferred morning beverage. So the European tradesman started his day wired and alert, rather than relaxed and maybe a bit inebriated.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:40 AM (59GGI)
somewhere on humanprogress.org is an article wherein it is argued that western civ didn't really get going until trade routes to the East opened up and coffee beans came to Europe. Coffee supplanted booze as the preferred morning beverage. So the European tradesman started his day wired and alert, rather than relaxed and maybe a bit inebriated.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 15, 2018 11:46 AM (JQveK)
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Should I go into detail about how I'm at the dog park with Teddy because my attention craving emotionally needy wife doesn't understand the overriding importance of leaving me the fuck alone?
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Are you a professional Valentine card writer? 'Cause that was beautiful.
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Are you a professional Valentine card writer? 'Cause that was beautiful.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 11:46 AM (+y/Ru)
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I've read (I think; I may have been drunk at the time) that the rise in popularity of coffee and tea really amped up productivity in Europe in the 18th Century.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:45 AM (gUCYC)
Huh. I wonder if boiling water for it inadvertently solved the contaminated water problem or if that was already a solved issue by then?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:45 AM (gUCYC)
Huh. I wonder if boiling water for it inadvertently solved the contaminated water problem or if that was already a solved issue by then?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM (y87Qq)
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...(it's not that i have anything against amazon - i just don't want to buy anything on the internet using my computer, because then my credit card info is in my computer and accessible to hacking. i've never bought anything over the internet and don't have any financial or banking info on my computer.)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM (Pg+x7)
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248 Back in olden times people drank booze because you couldn't trust the water.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 11:43 AM (pV/54)
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My history is fuzzy. Did the Olden Times come before or after the Days of Yore?
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 11:43 AM (pV/54)
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My history is fuzzy. Did the Olden Times come before or after the Days of Yore?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM (LBZrA)
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What is the problem with God Emperor?
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Sometimes it's just more fun to burn something down than to praise it.
Also, the cowl-licking scene.
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Sometimes it's just more fun to burn something down than to praise it.
Also, the cowl-licking scene.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:48 AM (gUCYC)
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Burgess:
He detested Kubrick's film version of Clockwork. The fact that he did so is itself very Burgessian. Of COURSE he would detest the film! That could have been easily predicted the day he sold the screen rights.
I liked "Earthly Powers": Tough not to like a novel that starts out, "I was in bed with my catamite when the Archbishop came to call." (going from memory)
He detested Kubrick's film version of Clockwork. The fact that he did so is itself very Burgessian. Of COURSE he would detest the film! That could have been easily predicted the day he sold the screen rights.
I liked "Earthly Powers": Tough not to like a novel that starts out, "I was in bed with my catamite when the Archbishop came to call." (going from memory)
Posted by: strawdog at July 15, 2018 11:48 AM (Cssks)
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Reading Moron Author CG Cooper. Love em.
Posted by: Rob at July 15, 2018 11:48 AM (90il4)
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253 Back in olden times people drank booze because you couldn't trust the water.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 11:43 AM (pV/54)
I'm extremely nostalgic
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 11:43 AM (pV/54)
I'm extremely nostalgic
Posted by: REDACTED at July 15, 2018 11:49 AM (TdS5t)
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I just have to say this. Yes the lefties took over the schools and media, no doubt there. But where were the parents? The schools and media are mostly going to indoctrinate those with no compass. On a micro level I get that people are different and I don't blame conservative parents for a lefty kid. But on a macro level, the ones most likely to turn lefty are those who were not taught a lot about American Exceptionalism, history, politics, etc.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:49 AM (n13/j)
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260: coffee and productivity in europe...
i find it interesting that the rise of coffee and tea coincided with the rise of the novel.
i find it interesting that the rise of coffee and tea coincided with the rise of the novel.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:50 AM (Pg+x7)
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"I was in bed with my catamite when the Archbishop came to call."
Talk about a hook! That's almost Bulwer-Lytton Prize-worthy.
Talk about a hook! That's almost Bulwer-Lytton Prize-worthy.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:50 AM (gUCYC)
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For my sins, I've been reading the Hugo Awards nominees packet for this year.
Maybe the Dragon Award nominees might be a better fit?
Maybe the Dragon Award nominees might be a better fit?
Posted by: Adriane the Literary Critic ... at July 15, 2018 11:50 AM (AoK0a)
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Are you a professional Valentine card writer? 'Cause that was beautiful.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 11:46 AM (+y/Ru)
"fuck" is a non starter
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 11:46 AM (+y/Ru)
"fuck" is a non starter
Posted by: Hallmark at July 15, 2018 11:50 AM (TdS5t)
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261 ...(it's not that i have anything against amazon - i just don't want to buy anything on the internet using my computer, because then my credit card info is in my computer and accessible to hacking. i've never bought anything over the internet and don't have any financial or banking info on my computer.)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM (Pg+x7)
Doesn't really make a difference anymore. You buy something in a brick & mortar store with a credit card, that can be hacked. Your bank account can be hacked too. Lots of examples of retail stores customer info being hacked lately
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM (Pg+x7)
Doesn't really make a difference anymore. You buy something in a brick & mortar store with a credit card, that can be hacked. Your bank account can be hacked too. Lots of examples of retail stores customer info being hacked lately
Posted by: josephistan at July 15, 2018 11:50 AM (Izzlo)
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Beer is a good source of cals for farm and field work, according to a big Midwestern kraut farmboy type I dated.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:45 AM (gUCYC)
The French and Belgian farmers would brew Saisons, also called farmhouse ale, with excess grain over the winter to hydrate the farm workers during the following year's growing season. It also gave them something to work on during the winter down time.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:45 AM (gUCYC)
The French and Belgian farmers would brew Saisons, also called farmhouse ale, with excess grain over the winter to hydrate the farm workers during the following year's growing season. It also gave them something to work on during the winter down time.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 15, 2018 11:51 AM (y7DUB)
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i just don't want to buy anything on the internet using my computer, because then my credit card info is in my computer and accessible to hacking.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM (Pg+x7)
Statistically, your card is more likely to get compromised in a huge breach of a vendor's or bank's records than from someone getting your number off your computer or phone. It's hard to hack into a ton of different devices for a small payoff from each, compared to popping a bank or airline or department store or something and getting hundreds of thousands of cards at once.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM (Pg+x7)
Statistically, your card is more likely to get compromised in a huge breach of a vendor's or bank's records than from someone getting your number off your computer or phone. It's hard to hack into a ton of different devices for a small payoff from each, compared to popping a bank or airline or department store or something and getting hundreds of thousands of cards at once.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:51 AM (y87Qq)
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Posted by: strawdog at July 15, 2018 11:37 AM (Cssks)
Thank you. I have no interest in Anthony Burgess, but I saw the comment above "raped by four American GIs," and that was my first thought: Says who?
Frankly, anything written about America and Americans, by anyone British, of that age, I assume there's a strong whiff of bias. If not downright lies.
Thank you. I have no interest in Anthony Burgess, but I saw the comment above "raped by four American GIs," and that was my first thought: Says who?
Frankly, anything written about America and Americans, by anyone British, of that age, I assume there's a strong whiff of bias. If not downright lies.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 11:52 AM (cY3LT)
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I've read (I think; I may have been drunk at the
time) that the rise in popularity of coffee and tea really amped up
productivity in Europe in the 18th Century.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:45 AM (gUCYC)
Huh. I wonder if boiling water for it inadvertently solved the
contaminated water problem or if that was already a solved issue by
then?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM (y87Qq)
Should have been solved but wasn't. Lots of lives lost without figuring out that thing that seems so obvious today.
time) that the rise in popularity of coffee and tea really amped up
productivity in Europe in the 18th Century.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:45 AM (gUCYC)
Huh. I wonder if boiling water for it inadvertently solved the
contaminated water problem or if that was already a solved issue by
then?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM (y87Qq)
Should have been solved but wasn't. Lots of lives lost without figuring out that thing that seems so obvious today.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:53 AM (n13/j)
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...(it's not that i have anything against amazon - i just don't want to buy anything on the internet using my computer, because then my credit card info is in my computer and accessible to hacking. i've never bought anything over the internet and don't have any financial or banking info on my computer.)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM
It pays to have two accounts in two different banks. One is your actual checking account. The other is your 'internet' account. You push *just enough* money into your internet account seconds before buying something.
If your internet account goes NSF, the hackers get jack squat.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM
It pays to have two accounts in two different banks. One is your actual checking account. The other is your 'internet' account. You push *just enough* money into your internet account seconds before buying something.
If your internet account goes NSF, the hackers get jack squat.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 15, 2018 11:53 AM (LOgQ4)
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http://www.thehugoawards.org/hugo-history/2018-hugo-awards/
It seems very...diverse. Can anybody recommend anything on this list? I've been rooting around in old SF for a while and I should perhaps see what the kids are reading now.
It seems very...diverse. Can anybody recommend anything on this list? I've been rooting around in old SF for a while and I should perhaps see what the kids are reading now.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:54 AM (gUCYC)
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267. Where are the parents? Being led by their children.
Posted by: kakisto at July 15, 2018 11:54 AM (3uHwI)
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i just don't want to buy anything on the internet using my computer,
because then my credit card info is in my computer and accessible to
hacking.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM (Pg+x7)
Statistically, your card is more likely to get compromised in a huge
breach of a vendor's or bank's records than from someone getting your
number off your computer or phone. It's hard to hack into a ton of
different devices for a small payoff from each, compared to popping a
bank or airline or department store or something and getting hundreds of
thousands of cards at once.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:51 AM (y87Qq)
Yeah, there is little on can do. Progress, don't ya love it?
i just don't want to buy anything on the internet using my computer,
because then my credit card info is in my computer and accessible to
hacking.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM (Pg+x7)
Statistically, your card is more likely to get compromised in a huge
breach of a vendor's or bank's records than from someone getting your
number off your computer or phone. It's hard to hack into a ton of
different devices for a small payoff from each, compared to popping a
bank or airline or department store or something and getting hundreds of
thousands of cards at once.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:51 AM (y87Qq)
Yeah, there is little on can do. Progress, don't ya love it?
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:54 AM (n13/j)
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251 How smart and successful am I?
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 11:30 AM (vV/gB)
considering that there are always 2 or 3 of them at my town dump recycle barn, for free, dunno
But what the hell can you by for ten bucks ??
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Point taken. I did get my first TV out of dump. Worked well too.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 11:30 AM (vV/gB)
considering that there are always 2 or 3 of them at my town dump recycle barn, for free, dunno
But what the hell can you by for ten bucks ??
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Point taken. I did get my first TV out of dump. Worked well too.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 11:54 AM (vV/gB)
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26 Sandy Cheeks
That sounds like a great summer read especially since it's $1.99 for the Kindle now (may not be later).
That sounds like a great summer read especially since it's $1.99 for the Kindle now (may not be later).
Posted by: Charlotte at July 15, 2018 11:55 AM (1oJkw)
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:55 AM (88cDs)
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Should have been solved but wasn't. Lots of lives lost without figuring out that thing that seems so obvious today.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:53 AM (n13/j)
Right - there was the John Snow cholera thing e.g., but I couldn't remember if people took that as an amusing oddity and went right back to dumping waste in the water sources or actually learned from it.
I have a suspicion that it's more likely that people boiled water because they wanted tea or coffee and the benefit of boiling it was completely overlooked.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:53 AM (n13/j)
Right - there was the John Snow cholera thing e.g., but I couldn't remember if people took that as an amusing oddity and went right back to dumping waste in the water sources or actually learned from it.
I have a suspicion that it's more likely that people boiled water because they wanted tea or coffee and the benefit of boiling it was completely overlooked.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:56 AM (y87Qq)
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So, what's the difference between the Welsh and Scots? Petty theft vs. livestock rustling?
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 15, 2018 11:46 AM (9BLnV)
See my reply to All Hail Eris (#246). Typo.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 15, 2018 11:46 AM (9BLnV)
See my reply to All Hail Eris (#246). Typo.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:56 AM (59GGI)
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Why take chances now?
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:44 AM (n13/j)
Exactly. Booze has been much improved over the centuries. But water? Same old, same old.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:44 AM (n13/j)
Exactly. Booze has been much improved over the centuries. But water? Same old, same old.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2018 11:56 AM (bNb8V)
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Don't the Welsh sing and steal?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:40 AM (gUCYC)
Yes, that was a typo. There's no correction feature here.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:41 AM (59GGI)
Is there anywhere on the British Isles (and we'll include Ireland in that) where people don't drink? I'm sure the Welsh have to down a few pints before they can get warm and plow Mrs. Ploppy. I think the stereotype needs to be rewritten.
The Irish drink, sing, and laugh.
The Welsh drink, sing, and steal.
The Scots drink, steal, and annoy the hell out of others with their bagpipes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:40 AM (gUCYC)
Yes, that was a typo. There's no correction feature here.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:41 AM (59GGI)
Is there anywhere on the British Isles (and we'll include Ireland in that) where people don't drink? I'm sure the Welsh have to down a few pints before they can get warm and plow Mrs. Ploppy. I think the stereotype needs to be rewritten.
The Irish drink, sing, and laugh.
The Welsh drink, sing, and steal.
The Scots drink, steal, and annoy the hell out of others with their bagpipes.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 15, 2018 11:57 AM (9BLnV)
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Good book morning
About FBI stooge stroke I think he' s literally demon-possessed
About understanding the Irish troubles through song, yesterday I chose another song on the radio after hearing a hardcore male voice start covering "Zombie" by the cranberries. Wasn't fun anymore, in this atmosphere
About FBI stooge stroke I think he' s literally demon-possessed
About understanding the Irish troubles through song, yesterday I chose another song on the radio after hearing a hardcore male voice start covering "Zombie" by the cranberries. Wasn't fun anymore, in this atmosphere
Posted by: Booknlass at July 15, 2018 11:57 AM (84I0r)
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Exactly. Booze has been much improved over the centuries. But water? Same old, same old.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2018 11:56 AM (bNb8V)
I've been drinking water for so long I don't even catch a buzz off it any more.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2018 11:56 AM (bNb8V)
I've been drinking water for so long I don't even catch a buzz off it any more.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:58 AM (y87Qq)
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Exactly. Booze has been much improved over the centuries. But water? Same old, same old.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2018 11:56 AM (bNb8V)
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Nobody has improved on two hydrogen atoms and a single oxygen atom.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2018 11:56 AM (bNb8V)
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Nobody has improved on two hydrogen atoms and a single oxygen atom.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 15, 2018 11:58 AM (LBZrA)
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279 267. Where are the parents? Being led by their children.
Posted by: kakisto at July 15, 2018 11:54 AM (3uHwI)
Yeah that is a thing too. I read recently a non political study that said no other youth culture has brought in older cultures like the Milennials have. No other generation has had their mores adopted by their elders like this one. What a sad state of affairs since this has got to be one of the worst cultures in a long time.
Posted by: kakisto at July 15, 2018 11:54 AM (3uHwI)
Yeah that is a thing too. I read recently a non political study that said no other youth culture has brought in older cultures like the Milennials have. No other generation has had their mores adopted by their elders like this one. What a sad state of affairs since this has got to be one of the worst cultures in a long time.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:58 AM (n13/j)
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259 Should I go into detail about how I'm at the dog park with Teddy because my attention craving emotionally needy wife doesn't understand the overriding importance of leaving me the fuck alone?
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Are you a professional Valentine card writer? 'Cause that was beautiful.
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This was special.
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Are you a professional Valentine card writer? 'Cause that was beautiful.
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This was special.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 11:58 AM (vV/gB)
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It seems very...diverse. Can anybody recommend anything on this
list? I've been rooting around in old SF for a while and I should
perhaps see what the kids are reading now.
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C'mon, you and I know darned good and well they don't read. Hugos are trying to become as irrelevant as NYT.
It seems very...diverse. Can anybody recommend anything on this
list? I've been rooting around in old SF for a while and I should
perhaps see what the kids are reading now.
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C'mon, you and I know darned good and well they don't read. Hugos are trying to become as irrelevant as NYT.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 15, 2018 11:59 AM (MIKMs)
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To be fair, without a concept of microorganisms, the idea that boiling water could purify it seems magical and ritualistic. Superstitious even.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:59 AM (88cDs)
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I think it's spiritual abuse to tell people it's their fault for things that are clearly not and to attribute that to God.
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Particularly when everybody knows it was the Russian bots.
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Particularly when everybody knows it was the Russian bots.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)
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Exactly. Booze has been much improved over the centuries. But water? Same old, same old.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2018 11:56 AM (bNb8V)
I've been drinking water for so long I don't even catch a buzz off it any more.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:58 AM (y87Qq)
I think it was WC Fields who talked about the time his party was stranded somewhere with nothing but food and water.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2018 11:56 AM (bNb8V)
I've been drinking water for so long I don't even catch a buzz off it any more.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:58 AM (y87Qq)
I think it was WC Fields who talked about the time his party was stranded somewhere with nothing but food and water.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:59 AM (n13/j)
297
'm also rereading a different translation of The Master and Margarita which reads much less clunky than the censored version I bought from the commie fucks at Lighthouse Books in San Franshitsco, which dovetails nicely with it, particularly when the Devil shows up in Moscow and starts doing magic tricks and doesn't take kindly to party apparatchiks demanding that he explains how he does his tricks.
I'm just lighting the primus!" said the Cat.
I'm just lighting the primus!" said the Cat.
Posted by: Adriane the Literary Critic ... at July 15, 2018 11:59 AM (AoK0a)
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260 I've read (I think; I may have been drunk at the time) that the rise in popularity of coffee and tea really amped up productivity in Europe in the 18th Century.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:45 AM (gUCYC)
Huh. I wonder if boiling water for it inadvertently solved the contaminated water problem or if that was already a solved issue by then?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM (y87Qq)
It wasn't really solved until later. As late as the Boer War, not all British generals believed it. (Just as citrus wasn't universally accepted in the 18th C.)
Roberts was clearly the best general in that war, but he didn't buy into the theory. He was old, and that may have put him out, himself, for a while.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 11:45 AM (gUCYC)
Huh. I wonder if boiling water for it inadvertently solved the contaminated water problem or if that was already a solved issue by then?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:47 AM (y87Qq)
It wasn't really solved until later. As late as the Boer War, not all British generals believed it. (Just as citrus wasn't universally accepted in the 18th C.)
Roberts was clearly the best general in that war, but he didn't buy into the theory. He was old, and that may have put him out, himself, for a while.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 12:00 PM (59GGI)
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267. Where are the parents? Being led by their children.
Posted by: kakisto at July 15, 2018 11:54 AM (3uHwI)
The parents are held hostage to a system that has created a world where, if you want your children to succeed in life, you filter them through that very system.
And don't make waves, or else it'll show up on your kids' records. Which the colleges are looking at.
Sure, there's always home schoolin', but not everyone can do that. So good luck. Being a parent in this day and age. Our children ARE being indoctrinated. The only question is, how much, and what can one do to counteract it.
Posted by: kakisto at July 15, 2018 11:54 AM (3uHwI)
The parents are held hostage to a system that has created a world where, if you want your children to succeed in life, you filter them through that very system.
And don't make waves, or else it'll show up on your kids' records. Which the colleges are looking at.
Sure, there's always home schoolin', but not everyone can do that. So good luck. Being a parent in this day and age. Our children ARE being indoctrinated. The only question is, how much, and what can one do to counteract it.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 12:00 PM (cY3LT)
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I ask one bit of advice. Just how much longer can we
use Amazon? They have been showing the now standard move to corporate
SJW-ism.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:04 AM (59GGI)
I use Amazon as a review source and buy elsewhere if possible. Baen, Smashwords, Kobo before Amazon. Gutenberg and archive.org are great for the older free stuff. Baen and Smashwords are DRM free and multi format. Kobo at least tells you what format a book has including DRM. I've never figured out what phrase on Amazon indicates DRM.
use Amazon? They have been showing the now standard move to corporate
SJW-ism.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 11:04 AM (59GGI)
I use Amazon as a review source and buy elsewhere if possible. Baen, Smashwords, Kobo before Amazon. Gutenberg and archive.org are great for the older free stuff. Baen and Smashwords are DRM free and multi format. Kobo at least tells you what format a book has including DRM. I've never figured out what phrase on Amazon indicates DRM.
Posted by: gingeroni at July 15, 2018 12:01 PM (GIqnq)
Posted by: Adriane the Chemistry Critic ... at July 15, 2018 12:01 PM (AoK0a)
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... instead of a separate bank act. i thought of having a separate computer, a simple laptop used only for financial dealings - plug it in for the 30 seconds it to buy something, then put it back on the shelf.
but i think y'all are right - given that hackers can get into my bank or the credit service companies, my little computer isn't much of a target.
but i think y'all are right - given that hackers can get into my bank or the credit service companies, my little computer isn't much of a target.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 12:02 PM (Pg+x7)
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275 Burt
I think the rape story tells us more about Burgess than about anything that actually happened.
When Dumas (fils) accused his young mistress of lying, she replied, "Lying keeps my teeth white."
Burgess' teeth were likely VERY white.
I think the rape story tells us more about Burgess than about anything that actually happened.
When Dumas (fils) accused his young mistress of lying, she replied, "Lying keeps my teeth white."
Burgess' teeth were likely VERY white.
Posted by: strawdog at July 15, 2018 12:03 PM (Cssks)
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Just finishing up VDH's "Second World Wars". It's fine, would be a good book for a non-WWII geek as well as those more focused on that period. Usual, somewhat distinctive rambling VDH style, with lots of allusions to classical military and strategic history.
Only a few quibbles, nothing central to the story.
Going back to the eastern front with a few books after this (Greatest Battle/Nagorski, about Moscow in winter 1941/42; Stalingrad/Jones, first of several on that one).
Only a few quibbles, nothing central to the story.
Going back to the eastern front with a few books after this (Greatest Battle/Nagorski, about Moscow in winter 1941/42; Stalingrad/Jones, first of several on that one).
Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 12:03 PM (QDnY+)
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To be fair, without a concept of microorganisms, the
idea that boiling water could purify it seems magical and ritualistic.
Superstitious even.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:59 AM (88cDs)
that is true of course. It is easy to look back at people who did not have microscopes etc. But it is still interesting to see the incredible advances made by humans so long ago while at the same time realizing so many suffered and died because they could not figure out boiling water sterilized it.
In the Civil War they had airships, submarines, telegraph, land mines etc. But they did not know to boil water and surgical instruments.
idea that boiling water could purify it seems magical and ritualistic.
Superstitious even.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:59 AM (88cDs)
that is true of course. It is easy to look back at people who did not have microscopes etc. But it is still interesting to see the incredible advances made by humans so long ago while at the same time realizing so many suffered and died because they could not figure out boiling water sterilized it.
In the Civil War they had airships, submarines, telegraph, land mines etc. But they did not know to boil water and surgical instruments.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:04 PM (n13/j)
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,I borrowed a mystery from the library titled Ruff Justice solely because of the cover - it has a standard poodle on it that looks a lot like mine
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Uh oh. I'm going to have to read that because I love mine. My joke is that they told me he was a standard when they sold him to me but actually he's a deluxe.
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Uh oh. I'm going to have to read that because I love mine. My joke is that they told me he was a standard when they sold him to me but actually he's a deluxe.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 12:04 PM (+y/Ru)
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I use a dedicated card for those purposes. It never leaves the house. This statement I received A Prime billing. I don't belong to A Prime.
How could they do that? No one had an answer. Amazon was prompt in refunding to my card and, of course, I'm getting a new card number.
How could they do that? No one had an answer. Amazon was prompt in refunding to my card and, of course, I'm getting a new card number.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 15, 2018 12:05 PM (V9ATq)
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but i think y'all are right - given that hackers can get into my bank or the credit service companies, my little computer isn't much of a target.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 12:02 PM (Pg+x7)
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Just to be extra safe, I recommend getting a good digital camouflage cover for it.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 12:02 PM (Pg+x7)
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Just to be extra safe, I recommend getting a good digital camouflage cover for it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 15, 2018 12:05 PM (LBZrA)
Posted by: Charlotte at July 15, 2018 12:05 PM (1oJkw)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:05 PM (8iiMU)
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Huh. Even the animals hate Paul Ryno. Or the woodchucks do, anyway.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybx2e4h3
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybx2e4h3
Posted by: Brother Cavil says at July 15, 2018 12:05 PM (lLeln)
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Why take chances now?
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:44 AM (n13/j)
Exactly. Booze has been much improved over the centuries. But water? Same old, same old.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2018 11:56 AM (bNb8V)
true, we get it, enough already.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 11:44 AM (n13/j)
Exactly. Booze has been much improved over the centuries. But water? Same old, same old.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2018 11:56 AM (bNb8V)
true, we get it, enough already.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:05 PM (n13/j)
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Croatia pushing. Tough handball call, though
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:06 PM (pV/54)
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Who put the pineapple juice in my pineapple juice?
Posted by: WC Fields, on a movie set at July 15, 2018 12:06 PM (QDnY+)
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Every session of Congress that he was in, Charlie Rangel would submit a bill to re-institute the draft. He quite openly stated that he had no interest in military preparedness and it was a matter of trying to get young adults pissed off enough to take to the streets.
But you can't criticize Charlie, he was a war hero. Just like that Mueller guy.
Every session of Congress that he was in, Charlie Rangel would submit a bill to re-institute the draft. He quite openly stated that he had no interest in military preparedness and it was a matter of trying to get young adults pissed off enough to take to the streets.
But you can't criticize Charlie, he was a war hero. Just like that Mueller guy.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2018 12:06 PM (IqV8l)
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Also, the cowl-licking scene.
Well, I'd heard you guys describe that scene as the worst thing ever set to paper, and when it came, I thought, "Oh. Yeah, OK." From y'all's descriptions I thought it was a sexual thing, but no. She had to have the hyper-spice that either kills you or gives you the weird trance. There is no more spice left on Arrakis though, so the only source of it would be in the flesh of a sand worm. And Leto's the only sand worm around. It was odd, but if it hadn't been for you guys going on and on and on about it, I wouldn't even have noticed that it was kind of outre.
Well, I'd heard you guys describe that scene as the worst thing ever set to paper, and when it came, I thought, "Oh. Yeah, OK." From y'all's descriptions I thought it was a sexual thing, but no. She had to have the hyper-spice that either kills you or gives you the weird trance. There is no more spice left on Arrakis though, so the only source of it would be in the flesh of a sand worm. And Leto's the only sand worm around. It was odd, but if it hadn't been for you guys going on and on and on about it, I wouldn't even have noticed that it was kind of outre.
Posted by: Jim S. at July 15, 2018 12:06 PM (ynUnH)
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true, we get it, enough already.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:05 PM (n13/j)
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Too soon?
true, we get it, enough already.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:05 PM (n13/j)
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Too soon?
Posted by: Amy Schumer at July 15, 2018 12:06 PM (LBZrA)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 12:07 PM (fuK7c)
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Medieval life:
Moldy bread and booze for breakfast makes life look like a Bosch painting.
Moldy bread and booze for breakfast makes life look like a Bosch painting.
Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 12:07 PM (RuIsu)
320
... instead of a separate bank act. i thought of having a separate computer, a simple laptop used only for financial dealings - plug it in for the 30 seconds it to buy something, then put it back on the shelf.
but i think y'all are right - given that hackers can get into my bank or the credit service companies, my little computer isn't much of a target.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 12:02 PM (Pg+x7)
Any browser that I have used gives you the option of not allowing the browser to "remember" your bank (or other ) password. So unless there is a keylogger virus on your PC, you can be pretty safe.
but i think y'all are right - given that hackers can get into my bank or the credit service companies, my little computer isn't much of a target.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 12:02 PM (Pg+x7)
Any browser that I have used gives you the option of not allowing the browser to "remember" your bank (or other ) password. So unless there is a keylogger virus on your PC, you can be pretty safe.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 15, 2018 12:07 PM (bNb8V)
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To be fair, without a concept of microorganisms, the
idea that boiling water could purify it seems magical and ritualistic.
Superstitious even.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:59 AM (88cDs)
but they did figure out that beer was safer than water, and I guess coffee and tea later. They could have thought through the steps and guessed at the boiling. But that is easy to say now.
idea that boiling water could purify it seems magical and ritualistic.
Superstitious even.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:59 AM (88cDs)
but they did figure out that beer was safer than water, and I guess coffee and tea later. They could have thought through the steps and guessed at the boiling. But that is easy to say now.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:07 PM (n13/j)
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Medieval life:
Moldy bread and booze for breakfast makes life look like a Bosch painting.
Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 12:07 PM (RuIsu)
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The paintings were meh. The dishwashers are outstanding.
Moldy bread and booze for breakfast makes life look like a Bosch painting.
Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 12:07 PM (RuIsu)
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The paintings were meh. The dishwashers are outstanding.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at July 15, 2018 12:08 PM (LBZrA)
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In the Civil War they had airships, submarines, telegraph, land mines etc. But they did not know to boil water and surgical instruments.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:04 PM (n13/j)
Just a crazy French idea like deconstruction.
On the whole matter of what to drink:
http://www.online-literature.com/chesterton/4357/
The poem cost him a contract, because he was writing for a paper owned by Cadbury. ("Cocoa is a cad and coward")
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:04 PM (n13/j)
Just a crazy French idea like deconstruction.
On the whole matter of what to drink:
http://www.online-literature.com/chesterton/4357/
The poem cost him a contract, because he was writing for a paper owned by Cadbury. ("Cocoa is a cad and coward")
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 12:09 PM (59GGI)
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Every session of Congress that he was in, Charlie Rangel would submit a bill to re-institute the draft. He quite openly stated that he had no interest in military preparedness and it was a matter of trying to get young adults pissed off enough to take to the streets.
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My take was that Charlie was cognizant that the best social program for saving youts from the streets was the US Military. That, and the fact that forcing the classes and races of the US to mix under egalitarian circumstances was all to the good. Then there is the old idea that young men should be serve their country's defense needs as an act of basic citizenship.
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My take was that Charlie was cognizant that the best social program for saving youts from the streets was the US Military. That, and the fact that forcing the classes and races of the US to mix under egalitarian circumstances was all to the good. Then there is the old idea that young men should be serve their country's defense needs as an act of basic citizenship.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 12:09 PM (vV/gB)
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extra player !
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:10 PM (bUjCl)
326
Watching the World Cup as my quadrennial soccer game that I actually watch. It's OK, but I can see why it doesn't interest me otherwise.
All team sports with goals/goalies can produce winners who are mostly beaten on the field. Current situation is a good example - both France's goals come from rules, not play (a dive that was deemed a real foul, a ball hitting some guy's hand by chance, immaterial to the play).
Boring. Soccer even suffers from boring penalty shots - don't know the %s, but I'm sure the goalie's chance is a tiny fraction of that in ice hockey, where the goalie has a 70-80% chance of prevailing.
All team sports with goals/goalies can produce winners who are mostly beaten on the field. Current situation is a good example - both France's goals come from rules, not play (a dive that was deemed a real foul, a ball hitting some guy's hand by chance, immaterial to the play).
Boring. Soccer even suffers from boring penalty shots - don't know the %s, but I'm sure the goalie's chance is a tiny fraction of that in ice hockey, where the goalie has a 70-80% chance of prevailing.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 12:10 PM (QDnY+)
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294 To be fair, without a concept of microorganisms, the idea that boiling water could purify it seems magical and ritualistic. Superstitious even.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:59 AM (88cDs)
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I thought he was talking more about the idea of not pooping upstream of your water supply.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 11:59 AM (88cDs)
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I thought he was talking more about the idea of not pooping upstream of your water supply.
Posted by: Jim S. at July 15, 2018 12:10 PM (ynUnH)
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275 Burt
I think the rape story tells us more about Burgess than about anything that actually happened.
When Dumas (fils) accused his young mistress of lying, she replied, "Lying keeps my teeth white."
Burgess' teeth were likely VERY white.
Posted by: strawdog at July 15, 2018 12:03 PM (Cssks)
Somewhat unrelated, I bought Norm McDonald's book "Based on a True Story." Anyone who knows anything about Norm McDonald must know what they're getting their hands on here. And apparently someone came to him about writing his autobio... to which he sorta said yes, but then turned in this book.
It's known to be partially true (hence the title), and partially... well, Norm. And yet still, reviewers are complaining, because they don't believe it's all true.
People...
I think the rape story tells us more about Burgess than about anything that actually happened.
When Dumas (fils) accused his young mistress of lying, she replied, "Lying keeps my teeth white."
Burgess' teeth were likely VERY white.
Posted by: strawdog at July 15, 2018 12:03 PM (Cssks)
Somewhat unrelated, I bought Norm McDonald's book "Based on a True Story." Anyone who knows anything about Norm McDonald must know what they're getting their hands on here. And apparently someone came to him about writing his autobio... to which he sorta said yes, but then turned in this book.
It's known to be partially true (hence the title), and partially... well, Norm. And yet still, reviewers are complaining, because they don't believe it's all true.
People...
Posted by: BurtTC at July 15, 2018 12:11 PM (cY3LT)
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321 To be fair, without a concept of microorganisms, the
idea that boiling water could purify it seems magical and ritualistic.
Superstitious even.
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You would have thought with the invention of the microscope would have scared the living shit out of them after seeing what was swimming about in their water.
idea that boiling water could purify it seems magical and ritualistic.
Superstitious even.
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You would have thought with the invention of the microscope would have scared the living shit out of them after seeing what was swimming about in their water.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 12:12 PM (vV/gB)
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:13 PM (pV/54)
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"Touch" "touch" "touch"....
That's all these douchebag soccer announcers can say.
It's been a long while since I watched any soccer on TV, but I can say the commentators are feeble, as they try to emulate the Brits in jargon and style.
I bet they bow before the Queen, too.
That's all these douchebag soccer announcers can say.
It's been a long while since I watched any soccer on TV, but I can say the commentators are feeble, as they try to emulate the Brits in jargon and style.
I bet they bow before the Queen, too.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:14 PM (8iiMU)
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Too much emphasis on practical reasons for why they drank beer and wine. My own view is that they liked them.
Sailors did, in fact, drink quite a bit of water back in the day, apart from that mixed in the grog. (Actually, beer was the real standard issue; grog was used as a substitute when need. Or wine. Or anything else alcoholic; whatever was available.)
Sailors did, in fact, drink quite a bit of water back in the day, apart from that mixed in the grog. (Actually, beer was the real standard issue; grog was used as a substitute when need. Or wine. Or anything else alcoholic; whatever was available.)
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 12:14 PM (59GGI)
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Longer version of Strzok
https://twitter.com/Hollybowie/status/1017572639777476608/video/1
https://twitter.com/Hollybowie/status/1017572639777476608/video/1
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:15 PM (pV/54)
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thought he was talking more about the idea of not pooping upstream of your water supply.
Posted by: Jim S. at July 15, 2018 12:10 PM (ynUnH)
The US Army (not union) did start to implement those strategies later in the war and they did make a difference.
Posted by: Jim S. at July 15, 2018 12:10 PM (ynUnH)
The US Army (not union) did start to implement those strategies later in the war and they did make a difference.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:15 PM (n13/j)
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Going back to the eastern front with a few books after this (Greatest Battle/Nagorski, about Moscow in winter 1941/42; Stalingrad/Jones, first of several on that one).
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I quite enjoyed Deathride by John Mosier. The basic premise is that both Nazi Germany and the USSR lost the war. It just took the USSR longer to die of wounds. He examines the essential crazy of each side using stories of potential great warriors of each side who.were destroyed by their own lunatic system. Briefly discusses Lysenko as an example of commie suicidal kookooism.
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I quite enjoyed Deathride by John Mosier. The basic premise is that both Nazi Germany and the USSR lost the war. It just took the USSR longer to die of wounds. He examines the essential crazy of each side using stories of potential great warriors of each side who.were destroyed by their own lunatic system. Briefly discusses Lysenko as an example of commie suicidal kookooism.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 12:16 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:16 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 12:17 PM (fuK7c)
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HA !!!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:17 PM (bUjCl)
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You would have thought with the invention of the microscope would have scared the living shit out of them after seeing what was swimming about in their water.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 12:12 PM (vV/gB)
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Thames tea:
https://www.wdl.org/en/item/3956/
Click to embiggen.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 12:12 PM (vV/gB)
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Thames tea:
https://www.wdl.org/en/item/3956/
Click to embiggen.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 12:18 PM (gUCYC)
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Moldy bread and booze for breakfast makes life look like a Bosch painting.
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And explains those ruffled collars.
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And explains those ruffled collars.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 12:18 PM (+y/Ru)
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Too much emphasis on practical reasons for why they drank beer and wine. My own view is that they liked them.
Sailors did, in fact, drink quite a bit of water back in the day,
apart from that mixed in the grog. (Actually, beer was the real standard
issue; grog was used as a substitute when need. Or wine. Or anything
else alcoholic; whatever was available.)
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 12:14 PM (59GGI)
The way I heard it, they issued the grog with lots of water so A) the sailors would drink enough water and B) so they would not horde their daily ration and and use it to get drunk all at once.
Sailors did, in fact, drink quite a bit of water back in the day,
apart from that mixed in the grog. (Actually, beer was the real standard
issue; grog was used as a substitute when need. Or wine. Or anything
else alcoholic; whatever was available.)
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 12:14 PM (59GGI)
The way I heard it, they issued the grog with lots of water so A) the sailors would drink enough water and B) so they would not horde their daily ration and and use it to get drunk all at once.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:18 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:18 PM (8iiMU)
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Al of us down at the Brattleboro Women's REprodictive Health Center just saw a picture od Hillary and she looked gorgonous and so inteeagent. We must gets rid of that idiot Trump and makes hur Presdent. Trump cannot even talk or spell corecterly !!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at July 15, 2018 12:19 PM (qM84C)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:19 PM (8iiMU)
345
Soccer. So many nuances.
Posted by: Fritz at July 15, 2018 12:19 PM (eAr55)
346
Final is turning into a 1980s Super Bowl.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2018 12:20 PM (ccxf2)
Posted by: John Asshole Kerry at July 15, 2018 12:20 PM (8iiMU)
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The poem cost him a contract, because he was writing for a paper owned by Cadbury. ("Cocoa is a cad and coward")
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 12:09 PM (59GGI)
love GK.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 12:09 PM (59GGI)
love GK.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:20 PM (n13/j)
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But you can't criticize Charlie, he was a war hero. Just like that Mueller guy.
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And John Kerry. He has 37 Purple Hearts. No part of his body is original. All replacement parts.
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And John Kerry. He has 37 Purple Hearts. No part of his body is original. All replacement parts.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 12:21 PM (+y/Ru)
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Goof morning everyone. Should I scroll up to read all that has come before including Eris claiming the top spot?
Writing front. The new version of Where Cats Dare is progressing. It is more in tone with the first story, a bit of a lark with some humor. The most difficult thing on writing this story was chucking the other version which was about 8,000 words long, it simply was not Tanya and more like something Diana and Catherine would deal with.
Writing front. The new version of Where Cats Dare is progressing. It is more in tone with the first story, a bit of a lark with some humor. The most difficult thing on writing this story was chucking the other version which was about 8,000 words long, it simply was not Tanya and more like something Diana and Catherine would deal with.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 15, 2018 12:21 PM (kVLm4)
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330 Must see. Short example of Strzok Smirk while testifying. Creepy
https://tinyurl.com/y9aqjg3x
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:13 PM (pV/54)
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Most Disturbing Image of 2018 - I'm calling it now.
He's practically rubbing his hands in glee, like a demonic homunculus. The Master will be pleased!
https://tinyurl.com/y9aqjg3x
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:13 PM (pV/54)
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Most Disturbing Image of 2018 - I'm calling it now.
He's practically rubbing his hands in glee, like a demonic homunculus. The Master will be pleased!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 12:22 PM (gUCYC)
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YES!!!!
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:22 PM (bUjCl)
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France has a much superior team.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:22 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:23 PM (8iiMU)
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Beautiful goal. Just beautiful.
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:23 PM (bUjCl)
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Uh oh. I'm going to have to read that because I love mine. My joke is that they told me he was a standard when they sold him to me but actually he's a deluxe.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 12:04 PM (+y/Ru)
They are so smart!
I had to take him to the sitter this morning, he's been therea couple of times. Last time I took himwas in February.
I swear he was giving me directions! There are two right turns, 10 miles spart, and a left turn in the final mile. He barked before each turn.
Smart but wacky, that's my pudel.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 12:04 PM (+y/Ru)
They are so smart!
I had to take him to the sitter this morning, he's been therea couple of times. Last time I took himwas in February.
I swear he was giving me directions! There are two right turns, 10 miles spart, and a left turn in the final mile. He barked before each turn.
Smart but wacky, that's my pudel.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 12:23 PM (88cDs)
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Croatia needs to pull Elway and put Gary Kubiak in there.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2018 12:23 PM (ccxf2)
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Ireland Book: There is a book I believe is called "The Princes of Ireland" that is historical fiction but describes the situation leading up to the troubles.
Ireland Book: There is a book I believe is called "The Princes of Ireland" that is historical fiction but describes the situation leading up to the troubles.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 15, 2018 12:24 PM (r+sAi)
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299. No doubt parents who try to keep their children exposed to a non-revisionist history and more traditional norms face an ongoing uphill climb. I'm referring to the Soccer Mom cohort. The ones whose self esteem rests on two pillars: Being 'young' and Kewl. So when Madison comes back from college all SJW'd up, mom Jennifer folds easily due to her core value is staying a Perpetual Adolescent. The Philly collar counties are overflowing with these types.
Posted by: kallisto at July 15, 2018 12:24 PM (3uHwI)
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Peter Strzok is Torgo???
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 15, 2018 12:24 PM (kVLm4)
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France has a much superior team.
I thought Croatia was dominating until about, what, eight minutes ago. But damn.
I thought Croatia was dominating until about, what, eight minutes ago. But damn.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 12:24 PM (fuK7c)
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Those African-Frenchmen are kicking the shit out of those Croats.
Posted by: Fritz at July 15, 2018 12:24 PM (eAr55)
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@360 -- I take care of things while Mueller is away.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2018 12:25 PM (ccxf2)
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Hah!
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 12:26 PM (fuK7c)
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runner, huh? Up until the last few minutes - even then actually - France was barely in the game, even the one/one situations their players were being beaten almost every time.
Now Croatia has collapsed, odd. Both French "action" goals (not rules-based goals) were long shots, odd plays, Croatian players just paused on the first one after the initial block, odd.
Well that saves time. It was looking like a "four corners" bore-fest before Croatia collapsed there.
Now Croatia has collapsed, odd. Both French "action" goals (not rules-based goals) were long shots, odd plays, Croatian players just paused on the first one after the initial block, odd.
Well that saves time. It was looking like a "four corners" bore-fest before Croatia collapsed there.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 12:26 PM (QDnY+)
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France has a much superior team.
I thought Croatia was dominating until about, what, eight minutes ago. But damn.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 12:24 PM (fuK7c)
I started watching about five minutes before the half. I got the sense that Croatia was dominating. It looks like France --- WHAT!?!?
LOL, holy shit.
France has a much superior team.
I thought Croatia was dominating until about, what, eight minutes ago. But damn.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 12:24 PM (fuK7c)
I started watching about five minutes before the half. I got the sense that Croatia was dominating. It looks like France --- WHAT!?!?
LOL, holy shit.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:26 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 12:26 PM (y8Foj)
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I thought Croatia was dominating until about, what, eight minutes ago. But damn.
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France was holding back. Their defense is superior..in my opinion..
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France was holding back. Their defense is superior..in my opinion..
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:27 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 12:27 PM (QDnY+)
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I think France is going to try and turtle up the rest of the game, and ust go for counterattacks.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:28 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 12:28 PM (gUCYC)
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yeah, substitute..LOL
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:28 PM (bUjCl)
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oh I love these poodle stories. In a parallel universe where dogs use the toilet I have a poodle. And a Husky.
Posted by: kallisto at July 15, 2018 12:29 PM (3uHwI)
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Nice goal by Nimoy Dracula.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2018 12:29 PM (ccxf2)
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France was "holding back"? Hmm. Well absent a bad call and a fluke play, they'd have "held" back and be down 1-0, with the entire game played in their end. Whatever.
At least there was some action.
At least there was some action.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 12:29 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:30 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:30 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 15, 2018 12:30 PM (kVLm4)
Posted by: Fritz at July 15, 2018 12:30 PM (eAr55)
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Nimoy Drakylovich
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:31 PM (bUjCl)
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Hans: The following people are to be released from their captors: In Northern Ireland, the seven members of the New Provo Front. In Canada, the five imprisoned leaders of Liberte de Quebec. In Sri Lanka, the nine members of the Asian Dawn movement...
John McClane: [listening on the radio] What the fuck?
Karl: [mouthing silently] Asian Dawn?
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You're soaking in it.
John McClane: [listening on the radio] What the fuck?
Karl: [mouthing silently] Asian Dawn?
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You're soaking in it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 12:31 PM (+y/Ru)
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Trump just called the EU " the enemy of the US."
This ought to get good....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 12:26 PM (y8Foj)
In his twitter feed he called "much of the news media" the enemy of the US. Seems pretty strong there although I think most of them suck. I didn't see anything on the E.U.
This ought to get good....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 12:26 PM (y8Foj)
In his twitter feed he called "much of the news media" the enemy of the US. Seems pretty strong there although I think most of them suck. I didn't see anything on the E.U.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:31 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 12:33 PM (fuK7c)
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These soccer/football people are savages.
Posted by: Fritz at July 15, 2018 12:34 PM (eAr55)
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351. darn it I can't see it til I get on a proper device. i. e. not a flip phone.
Posted by: kallisto at July 15, 2018 12:34 PM (3uHwI)
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Trumpentwitter pretty classic and funny this morning.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 12:34 PM (QDnY+)
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And I am not friend of the EU. I think it is stupid for countries to give up their sovereignty. But the idea was they kept starting world wars and could not be trusted with countries.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:34 PM (n13/j)
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time delay; damn
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:34 PM (bUjCl)
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These soccer/football people are savages.
Is there cannibalism in the stadium? Shep Smith wants to know.
Is there cannibalism in the stadium? Shep Smith wants to know.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 15, 2018 12:35 PM (kVLm4)
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These soccer/football people are savages.
Posted by: Fritz at July 15, 2018 12:34 PM (eAr55)
If you want a sport that is pure testosterone, and will probably make the 'ettes swoon, I submit Australian Rules Football.
These soccer/football people are savages.
Posted by: Fritz at July 15, 2018 12:34 PM (eAr55)
If you want a sport that is pure testosterone, and will probably make the 'ettes swoon, I submit Australian Rules Football.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:35 PM (8iiMU)
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Kallisto, hubby asked me if we could train the poodle to use the toilet.
No,
Now he wants to just train him to pee on weeds.
No,
Now he wants to just train him to pee on weeds.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 12:35 PM (88cDs)
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Trump takes a nice slam at the Russians the day before the summit*. What's great about it is it's absolutely true, but off-handed, which only adds to its impact.
* not sure meetings between a US president and the strongman of a fairly weak, passive, reactive Russia any longer deserve the "summit" term
* not sure meetings between a US president and the strongman of a fairly weak, passive, reactive Russia any longer deserve the "summit" term
Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 12:36 PM (QDnY+)
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Hard to comeback in soccer, sadly.
But already the highest scoring final since England West Germany 4 to 2 in '66
But already the highest scoring final since England West Germany 4 to 2 in '66
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:37 PM (pV/54)
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One thing I noticed a couple of years ago, watching a US soccer team play a Brit team at a stadium in Cincinnati -- the huge field might make the players look small on tv, but they're not. Once you're at field level these guys are pretty imposing. I don't think I saw one player less then about six foot two to six foot four, two hundred pounds easy, a ton of leg muscle.
If they had helmets and pads on they'd look like any American football teams running back.
They've definitely gotten taller and more muscular since my youth.
One thing I noticed a couple of years ago, watching a US soccer team play a Brit team at a stadium in Cincinnati -- the huge field might make the players look small on tv, but they're not. Once you're at field level these guys are pretty imposing. I don't think I saw one player less then about six foot two to six foot four, two hundred pounds easy, a ton of leg muscle.
If they had helmets and pads on they'd look like any American football teams running back.
They've definitely gotten taller and more muscular since my youth.
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 15, 2018 12:38 PM (LOgQ4)
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Aussie Rules is Gaelic football played with a rugby ball on a cricket field.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:39 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:39 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 12:39 PM (+y/Ru)
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Willowed:
I am all for the ability of billionaire sports franchise owners getting new stadiums at the expense of the locals, but I think it should be contingent on surrendering rights to the team name and merchandising if the team leaves before it all gets paid back.
I am all for the ability of billionaire sports franchise owners getting new stadiums at the expense of the locals, but I think it should be contingent on surrendering rights to the team name and merchandising if the team leaves before it all gets paid back.
Posted by: Downcat at July 15, 2018 12:39 PM (NLr+C)
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Aussie Rules is Gaelic football played with a rugby ball on a cricket field.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:39 PM (pV/54)
And the dudes are monsters. Tall, strapping men that would make Shep! swoon.
Aussie Rules is Gaelic football played with a rugby ball on a cricket field.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:39 PM (pV/54)
And the dudes are monsters. Tall, strapping men that would make Shep! swoon.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:40 PM (8iiMU)
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> (Actually, beer was the real standard
issue; grog was used as a substitute when need. Or wine. Or anything
else alcoholic; whatever was available.)
No, they got both. The standard ration in the British Royal Navy in the Age of Sail was one gallon of beer and one pint of grog per day.
The lime juice ration was often mixed into the grog to ensure that the men drank it.
issue; grog was used as a substitute when need. Or wine. Or anything
else alcoholic; whatever was available.)
No, they got both. The standard ration in the British Royal Navy in the Age of Sail was one gallon of beer and one pint of grog per day.
The lime juice ration was often mixed into the grog to ensure that the men drank it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 15, 2018 12:40 PM (GXOTw)
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319 Medieval life:
Moldy bread and booze for breakfast makes life look like a Bosch painting.
Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 12:07 PM (RuIsu)
That's actually a good example of the slippery way historical eras are used. Since it's bad, we call it "Medieval". This despite the fact that what is said is equally true of the Renaissance and Enlightenment eras (and all earlier ones.)
But the Renaissance is the worst. Jacques Barzun called it a movable feast. And C S Lewis said it really referred to anything the speaker approved of between 1200 and 1700. Hexter, whom I've already cited, came to the conclusion that the term should just be dropped. It's just too lacking in content or reference beyond meaning "good". Sort of the reversal of Orwell saying that "fascism" had come to mean nothing more than "something not desirable."
Moldy bread and booze for breakfast makes life look like a Bosch painting.
Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 12:07 PM (RuIsu)
That's actually a good example of the slippery way historical eras are used. Since it's bad, we call it "Medieval". This despite the fact that what is said is equally true of the Renaissance and Enlightenment eras (and all earlier ones.)
But the Renaissance is the worst. Jacques Barzun called it a movable feast. And C S Lewis said it really referred to anything the speaker approved of between 1200 and 1700. Hexter, whom I've already cited, came to the conclusion that the term should just be dropped. It's just too lacking in content or reference beyond meaning "good". Sort of the reversal of Orwell saying that "fascism" had come to mean nothing more than "something not desirable."
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 12:41 PM (59GGI)
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uh oh
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:41 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 12:41 PM (fuK7c)
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No, they got both. The standard ration in the British Royal Navy in the Age of Sail was one gallon of beer and one pint of grog per day.
The lime juice ration was often mixed into the grog to ensure that the men drank it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 15, 2018 12:40 PM (GXOTw)
Not what N A M Rodger says.
The lime juice ration was often mixed into the grog to ensure that the men drank it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 15, 2018 12:40 PM (GXOTw)
Not what N A M Rodger says.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 12:41 PM (59GGI)
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Well speaking of Diana and Catherine, on this day in July 1799 the Rosetta Stone was unearthed by the French in Egypt.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 15, 2018 12:42 PM (kVLm4)
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trump said the e.u. is the enemy of the u.s.?
he needn't say that - it's not true. they're not our enemy, we are their enemy. as they say, it's a feature not a bug, of the e.u. vision - that the u.s. would eventually be their enemy.
he needn't say that - it's not true. they're not our enemy, we are their enemy. as they say, it's a feature not a bug, of the e.u. vision - that the u.s. would eventually be their enemy.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 12:42 PM (Pg+x7)
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Trump: "I think the European Union is a foe, what they do to us in trade."
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:42 PM (pV/54)
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Goof morning everyone. Should I scroll up to read all that has come before including Eris claiming the top spot?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 15, 2018 12:21 PM (kVLm4)
Well there's a bit up there about 'cowl licking', but it turns out there's no F4U or R-2800 Double Wasp involved at all and it's actually kind of unpleasant so I'd go right ahead and skip past that one, truth be told.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 15, 2018 12:21 PM (kVLm4)
Well there's a bit up there about 'cowl licking', but it turns out there's no F4U or R-2800 Double Wasp involved at all and it's actually kind of unpleasant so I'd go right ahead and skip past that one, truth be told.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 12:42 PM (y87Qq)
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Well speaking of Diana and Catherine, on this day in July 1799 the Rosetta Stone was unearthed by the French in Egypt.
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viva la France ?
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viva la France ?
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:43 PM (bUjCl)
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Did they just call a time out for a cramp? It's like the NBA.
Posted by: Fritz at July 15, 2018 12:43 PM (eAr55)
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 12:43 PM (59GGI)
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Not gonna waste time looking into it, but apparently Musk is doing his thing on the Thai cave rescue (i.e. making an a** of himself). The one tweet I saw really is a breath-taking example of the weird ignorant moral narcissism of the tech wealthy set.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 12:44 PM (QDnY+)
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The lime juice ration was often mixed into the grog to ensure that the men drank it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 15, 2018 12:40 PM (GXOTw)
Did someone say 'frog'? They are winning at the moment.
And, where are the soccer cheerleaders?
The lime juice ration was often mixed into the grog to ensure that the men drank it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 15, 2018 12:40 PM (GXOTw)
Did someone say 'frog'? They are winning at the moment.
And, where are the soccer cheerleaders?
Posted by: hard of hearing anchorbabe fashion cop at July 15, 2018 12:44 PM (8iiMU)
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Peoples that like their doggies:
Spotted in France
by Gregory Edmont
a book about his Dalmatian ...
Spotted in France
by Gregory Edmont
a book about his Dalmatian ...
Posted by: Adriane the Literary Critic ... at July 15, 2018 12:44 PM (AoK0a)
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If you are in a car and starving but the driver doesn't want to stop for food yet, cannibalism is okay, right?
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 12:44 PM (88cDs)
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n his twitter feed he called "much of the news media" the enemy of the US. Seems pretty strong there although I think most of them suck. I didn't see anything on the E.U.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:31 PM (n13/j)
In red type, top left corner in Drudge. But I didn't click.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:31 PM (n13/j)
In red type, top left corner in Drudge. But I didn't click.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 12:44 PM (y8Foj)
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The French found the stone but they lost it and Egypt to England.
Just more proof France was never a real super power.
Just more proof France was never a real super power.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 15, 2018 12:44 PM (kVLm4)
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405 Well speaking of Diana and Catherine, on this day in July 1799 the Rosetta Stone was unearthed by the French in Egypt.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 15, 2018 12:42 PM (kVLm4)
On behalf of the Royal Navy, let me revise that: by the French stranded in Egypt.
Off to see Emma.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 15, 2018 12:42 PM (kVLm4)
On behalf of the Royal Navy, let me revise that: by the French stranded in Egypt.
Off to see Emma.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 12:45 PM (59GGI)
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Trump just called the EU " the enemy of the US."
This ought to get good....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 12:26 PM (y8Foj)
In his
twitter feed he called "much of the news media" the enemy of the US.
Seems pretty strong there although I think most of them suck. I didn't
see anything on the E.U.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:31 PM (n13/j)
I just saw the link on Drudge, Trump did call the E.U. a foe, mainly on trade.
Trump just called the EU " the enemy of the US."
This ought to get good....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 12:26 PM (y8Foj)
In his
twitter feed he called "much of the news media" the enemy of the US.
Seems pretty strong there although I think most of them suck. I didn't
see anything on the E.U.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:31 PM (n13/j)
I just saw the link on Drudge, Trump did call the E.U. a foe, mainly on trade.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:46 PM (n13/j)
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Again - fine for the boss to trash talk the "press", but there needs to be a lot of follow-up by others adding detail and closing the case. Jeebus, how hard would it be for the staff to prepare some factual zingers on press distortion/mistakes for Trump to toss out a few times a week?
Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 12:47 PM (QDnY+)
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Say what you want about the British Empire but many a former colony and now a sovereign state still uses the British system of government and court . I think in Kenya judges still wear powdered wigs.
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2018 12:48 PM (pHfeF)
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Say what you want about the British Empire but many a former colony and now a sovereign state still uses the British system of government and court . I think in Kenya judges still wear powdered wigs.
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2018 12:48 PM (pHfeF)
The Brits could be brutal, but like the Romans, they usually left good things behind.
Ironically, it can be argued that the Brits were the most brutal and least merciful on the ones who looked just like them, the Irish.
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2018 12:48 PM (pHfeF)
The Brits could be brutal, but like the Romans, they usually left good things behind.
Ironically, it can be argued that the Brits were the most brutal and least merciful on the ones who looked just like them, the Irish.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 12:50 PM (y8Foj)
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asshole move by Croat; go France
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:50 PM (bUjCl)
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Nothing says, "Dick move," like taking out your opponent with a career jeopardizing injury.
Posted by: Fritz at July 15, 2018 12:50 PM (eAr55)
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Well in 1799 and a bit later France was a world power, just not a naval world power
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2018 12:51 PM (pHfeF)
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Bye, bye, anti-American DiFi:
Longtime California Senator Dianne Feinstein lost the California Democratic Party's endorsement in a stunning vote Saturday night at the party's executive board meeting in Oakland. Though the vote was expected to be close, state Senator Kevin de Leon rather easily crossed the 60 percent threshold necessary for endorsement.
De Leon secured 65 percent of the vote among the 333 executive board members present. Feinstein garnered 7 percent, and "no endorsement" took 28 percent. De Leon only took 54 percent of the vote at the state party convention in February. Virtually every undecided vote going into the executive board needed to flip to get this big a number.
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It's almost as if she hasn't lied, cheated and stolen for the Donks for decades.
Longtime California Senator Dianne Feinstein lost the California Democratic Party's endorsement in a stunning vote Saturday night at the party's executive board meeting in Oakland. Though the vote was expected to be close, state Senator Kevin de Leon rather easily crossed the 60 percent threshold necessary for endorsement.
De Leon secured 65 percent of the vote among the 333 executive board members present. Feinstein garnered 7 percent, and "no endorsement" took 28 percent. De Leon only took 54 percent of the vote at the state party convention in February. Virtually every undecided vote going into the executive board needed to flip to get this big a number.
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It's almost as if she hasn't lied, cheated and stolen for the Donks for decades.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 12:51 PM (+y/Ru)
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> Not what N A M Rodger says.
He might say that, but it makes no sense. A pint of grog (measured after mixing with water) isn't nearly enough to prevent dehydration, especially for men doing heavy work.
They got water or (preferably) small beer in addition to the grog ration.
He might say that, but it makes no sense. A pint of grog (measured after mixing with water) isn't nearly enough to prevent dehydration, especially for men doing heavy work.
They got water or (preferably) small beer in addition to the grog ration.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 15, 2018 12:52 PM (GXOTw)
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*starts chewing on seatbelt *
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 12:52 PM (88cDs)
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Well speaking of Diana and Catherine, on this day in July 1799 the Rosetta Stone was unearthed by the French in Egypt.
Dang!!! that is some old software ...
Dang!!! that is some old software ...
Posted by: Adriane the Literary Critic ... at July 15, 2018 12:52 PM (AoK0a)
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Viva La France!
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:53 PM (pV/54)
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Ironically, it can be argued that the Brits were the most brutal and least merciful on the ones who looked just like them, the Irish.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 12:50 PM (y8Foj)
I recently read a very good biography about Thomas Meagher, and had no idea just how horrific the Crown's treatment of the Irish was. Absolutely brutal. Meagher was a vocal opponent and was sent to Tasmania as a political prisoner. He escaped and became the voice of the Irish in America and fought admirably in the Civil War before moving to Montana to try setting up a new Ireland.
Really compelling read. Blanking on the author's name.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 12:50 PM (y8Foj)
I recently read a very good biography about Thomas Meagher, and had no idea just how horrific the Crown's treatment of the Irish was. Absolutely brutal. Meagher was a vocal opponent and was sent to Tasmania as a political prisoner. He escaped and became the voice of the Irish in America and fought admirably in the Civil War before moving to Montana to try setting up a new Ireland.
Really compelling read. Blanking on the author's name.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 15, 2018 12:53 PM (EhZNT)
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NIIICE !! Viva
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:54 PM (bUjCl)
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Love seeing the Left eating one of their crone.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:54 PM (pV/54)
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Welp, four years until I watch kickball again.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 12:54 PM (fuK7c)
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And, where are the soccer cheerleaders?
Posted by: hard of hearing anchorbabe fashion cop at July 15, 2018 12:44 PM (8iiMU)
That's what Americans need to take interest in the sport.
And, where are the soccer cheerleaders?
Posted by: hard of hearing anchorbabe fashion cop at July 15, 2018 12:44 PM (8iiMU)
That's what Americans need to take interest in the sport.
Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2018 12:54 PM (sdi6R)
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Immortal Irishman, by Timothy Egan.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 15, 2018 12:55 PM (EhZNT)
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:56 PM (bUjCl)
438
It's almost as if she hasn't lied, cheated and stolen for the Donks for decades.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 12:51 PM (+y/Ru)
It's refreshing to be reminded that they're wholly unburdened by any vestigial human emotions like gratitude or reciprocity.
Second look at this dark horse, "No Endorsement"? I'd like to hear more about Endorsement's platform.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 12:51 PM (+y/Ru)
It's refreshing to be reminded that they're wholly unburdened by any vestigial human emotions like gratitude or reciprocity.
Second look at this dark horse, "No Endorsement"? I'd like to hear more about Endorsement's platform.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 12:56 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:56 PM (8iiMU)
440
Yep the Battle of the Nile in 1798 where the Royal Navy trounced the French which meant Napoleon's invasion force was stuck. In Egypt. And being a typical schmuck, Napoleon sneaked out of Egypt promising to return. He never did and the French surrendered. But Napoleon and his PR machine still sold the French populous what a victory Egypt had been.
But one must laud the pint-sized Corsican for bringing so many academicians to Egypt and as a result gifting to the world the Commission of Arts Description de l'Egypte's nineteen volumes that required 400 engravers.
But one must laud the pint-sized Corsican for bringing so many academicians to Egypt and as a result gifting to the world the Commission of Arts Description de l'Egypte's nineteen volumes that required 400 engravers.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 15, 2018 12:56 PM (kVLm4)
441
So did France win?
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 12:56 PM (88cDs)
442
Lawrence O'Donnell
@Lawrence
Russia launched a war against the United States of America in 2016. And won.
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Larry, Larry, stop the hanmering. And stop getting hsmmered.
@Lawrence
Russia launched a war against the United States of America in 2016. And won.
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Larry, Larry, stop the hanmering. And stop getting hsmmered.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 12:57 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at July 15, 2018 12:57 PM (E4NQ0)
444
FIFA told the broadcasters to stop doing crowd shots of hot women.
Well, if Sophie Marceau is happy, I'm happy.
Well, if Sophie Marceau is happy, I'm happy.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2018 12:58 PM (ccxf2)
445
I wasn't watching, but I was rooting for Croatia. The Eastern Eurps are our best allies in that region.
Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2018 12:58 PM (sdi6R)
446
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2018 12:48 PM (pHfeF)
Basically, Humanity sucks.
Even the greatest Empires are full of assholes willing to destroy everything they come in contact with if it means more power.
America is no exception. Look at how great this nation is, and yet how many absolute bastards inhabit it.
In other words, you can have an evil empire, a basket case, or a glorious empire, but in all three cases, it'll be full of shitheads.
You want a solution to the problem? Either open a Bible or start drinkin'.
Or both.
Basically, Humanity sucks.
Even the greatest Empires are full of assholes willing to destroy everything they come in contact with if it means more power.
America is no exception. Look at how great this nation is, and yet how many absolute bastards inhabit it.
In other words, you can have an evil empire, a basket case, or a glorious empire, but in all three cases, it'll be full of shitheads.
You want a solution to the problem? Either open a Bible or start drinkin'.
Or both.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2018 12:58 PM (BRvh1)
447
*starts chewing on seatbelt *
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 12:52 PM (88cDs)
Don't you keep crushed packets of saltines with you? How else do you express hunger besides loudly and passive-aggressively crinkling saltine packets while you dump the crumbs in your mouth?
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 12:52 PM (88cDs)
Don't you keep crushed packets of saltines with you? How else do you express hunger besides loudly and passive-aggressively crinkling saltine packets while you dump the crumbs in your mouth?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 12:58 PM (y87Qq)
448
The irony is that the British subjects in Colonial America were the most free of all Crown subjects, including those in Ireland and even England. You give people some freedom, they want more. Just ask Gorby.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 12:59 PM (n13/j)
449
So did France win?
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 12:56 PM (88cDs)
Oh, yes. Oui...
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 12:56 PM (88cDs)
Oh, yes. Oui...
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 12:59 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 15, 2018 01:00 PM (fuK7c)
451
Some more on Thomas Meagher. He was one of the leaders of the 1848 Irish Rebellion. Before sentencing he gave last words to the effect of "sorry we got caught. If you let us loose, we'll be sure to do better next time" which led to the apopleptic English judge sentencing he and his merry band to be drawn and quartered, later commuted to deportation to Australia.
When he got to the US he organized the NYC Fighting 69th Irish regiment.
When he got to the US he organized the NYC Fighting 69th Irish regiment.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 01:00 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 01:00 PM (8iiMU)
453
owner of four ( currently)]
Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at July 15, 2018 12:57 PM (E4NQ0)
Royals get big, don't they?
How big are yours?
Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at July 15, 2018 12:57 PM (E4NQ0)
Royals get big, don't they?
How big are yours?
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 01:01 PM (88cDs)
454
t looks like their strategy of importing North Africans worked.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:56 PM (8iiMU)
they are not French citizens ?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 12:56 PM (8iiMU)
they are not French citizens ?
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 01:02 PM (bUjCl)
455
gah. hate the french. but now that soccer is dine its time to wait impatiently for college football to start.
Posted by: IC at July 15, 2018 01:02 PM (PEJUg)
456
America is no exception. Look at how great this nation is, and yet how many absolute bastards inhabit it.
In other words, you can have an evil empire, a basket case, or a glorious empire, but in all three cases, it'll be full of shitheads.
You want a solution to the problem? Either open a Bible or start drinkin'.
Or both.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2018 12:58 PM (BRvh1)
The Genius of the Founders was that they KNEW we were full of assholes.
So they created a system where assholes would always be competing with each other, through different balanced centers of power.
Currently, that balance is out of whack... as we screwed up the Senate as Assholes for State Power when we changed the Constitution to make them regularly elected...
And also when the Supremes somehow convinced both other branches of power that they were the final arbiters of what is Constitutional, or what a Right is.
In other words, you can have an evil empire, a basket case, or a glorious empire, but in all three cases, it'll be full of shitheads.
You want a solution to the problem? Either open a Bible or start drinkin'.
Or both.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2018 12:58 PM (BRvh1)
The Genius of the Founders was that they KNEW we were full of assholes.
So they created a system where assholes would always be competing with each other, through different balanced centers of power.
Currently, that balance is out of whack... as we screwed up the Senate as Assholes for State Power when we changed the Constitution to make them regularly elected...
And also when the Supremes somehow convinced both other branches of power that they were the final arbiters of what is Constitutional, or what a Right is.
Posted by: Don Q at July 15, 2018 01:02 PM (NgKpN)
457
Don't you keep crushed packets of saltines with you? How else do you express hunger besides loudly and passive-aggressively crinkling saltine packets while you dump the crumbs in your mouth?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 12:58 PM (y87Qq)
I want REAL food!
And possibly brains.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 12:58 PM (y87Qq)
I want REAL food!
And possibly brains.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 01:02 PM (88cDs)
458
drawn and quartered, later commuted to deportation to Australia.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 01:00 PM (pV/54)
*snort*
"We were about to vivisect you and dismember your still warm corpse, but decided that making you go to Australia was sufficient punishment instead."
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 01:00 PM (pV/54)
*snort*
"We were about to vivisect you and dismember your still warm corpse, but decided that making you go to Australia was sufficient punishment instead."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2018 01:03 PM (BRvh1)
459
they are not French citizens ?
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 01:02 PM (bUjCl)
I'm sure they are.
they are not French citizens ?
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 01:02 PM (bUjCl)
I'm sure they are.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 15, 2018 01:05 PM (8iiMU)
460
Posted by: Don Q at July 15, 2018 01:02 PM (NgKpN)
Whenever I hear some bernie bro or past-his-sell-by-date hippie spouting off about how "the system is broken!", i always have the same reply.
The System is fine. YOU are broken.
If you dump oil in your gas tank, washer fluid in your differential, and turn-signal fluid in your radiator, don't act like it's the car's fault that it doesn't run right anymore.
Posted by: Don Q at July 15, 2018 01:02 PM (NgKpN)
Whenever I hear some bernie bro or past-his-sell-by-date hippie spouting off about how "the system is broken!", i always have the same reply.
The System is fine. YOU are broken.
If you dump oil in your gas tank, washer fluid in your differential, and turn-signal fluid in your radiator, don't act like it's the car's fault that it doesn't run right anymore.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2018 01:05 PM (BRvh1)
461
NOOD Democrats
Posted by: runner at July 15, 2018 01:05 PM (bUjCl)
462
nood
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 01:06 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 15, 2018 01:06 PM (8iiMU)
464
IIRC, France has the odd thing of treating its foreign possessions as literal French soil, and their inhabitants as full French citizens who can vote in French elections.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 01:07 PM (pV/54)
465
395 Aussie Rules is Gaelic football played with a rugby ball on a cricket field.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:39 PM (pV/54)
Sacrifice the losing team atop a ziggurat and I'll watch.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 12:39 PM (pV/54)
Sacrifice the losing team atop a ziggurat and I'll watch.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 01:07 PM (gUCYC)
466
Seattle also has a social justice library, set up by Edwin Lindo, a University of Washington law school professor and "lifelong activist" ( *eyeroll* ):
Edwin is so dedicated to creating a space for conversation that Estelita�s doesn�t even have WiFi so people can stay engaged without getting distracted. In the future, Edwin said he hopes the library can host lectures, history lessons, poetry performances, and a book club.
A space for "conversations." Right. I'm sure he's interested in any opinion, be it left, wacko left, or really wacko left. I wonder if he would be open to a series of lectures on why the only solution to 3rd-world poverty is a free-market economy with minimal governmental regulations?
Oakland already has a library exactly like that - -the "Niebyl-Proctor Library." it ONLY has Marxist and communist books.They hold events all the time, and they are all off-the-deep-end commie.
Here's their Web site:
http://marxistlibr.org/
Not all "libraries" are good places.
Edwin is so dedicated to creating a space for conversation that Estelita�s doesn�t even have WiFi so people can stay engaged without getting distracted. In the future, Edwin said he hopes the library can host lectures, history lessons, poetry performances, and a book club.
A space for "conversations." Right. I'm sure he's interested in any opinion, be it left, wacko left, or really wacko left. I wonder if he would be open to a series of lectures on why the only solution to 3rd-world poverty is a free-market economy with minimal governmental regulations?
Oakland already has a library exactly like that - -the "Niebyl-Proctor Library." it ONLY has Marxist and communist books.They hold events all the time, and they are all off-the-deep-end commie.
Here's their Web site:
http://marxistlibr.org/
Not all "libraries" are good places.
Posted by: zombie at July 15, 2018 01:07 PM (c+2jX)
467
Sometimes pre-scientific method societies just picked up on stuff based on observation. During the Great Plague of the 1340s, some physicians believed that roaring fires had preventive value-- turns out flees don't like them, so they were right.
Similarly, physicians noticed that remote mountain villages suffered less from plague-- flees don't like snow & ice, either, and an isolated population helps.
Similarly, physicians noticed that remote mountain villages suffered less from plague-- flees don't like snow & ice, either, and an isolated population helps.
Posted by: strawdog at July 15, 2018 01:08 PM (Cssks)
468
456 And also when the Supremes somehow convinced both
other branches of power that they were the final arbiters of what is
Constitutional, or what a Right is.
Posted by: Don Q at July 15, 2018 01:02 PM (NgKpN)
They didn't convince Thomas Jefferson who refused to acknowledge that ruling that made them the sole arbiter of the Constitution.
other branches of power that they were the final arbiters of what is
Constitutional, or what a Right is.
Posted by: Don Q at July 15, 2018 01:02 PM (NgKpN)
They didn't convince Thomas Jefferson who refused to acknowledge that ruling that made them the sole arbiter of the Constitution.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 01:08 PM (mpXpK)
469
458
"We were about to vivisect you and dismember your still warm corpse, but decided that making you go to Australia was sufficient punishment instead."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2018 01:03 PM (BRvh1)
*clacking noises*
"We were about to vivisect you and dismember your still warm corpse, but decided that making you go to Australia was sufficient punishment instead."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 15, 2018 01:03 PM (BRvh1)
*clacking noises*
Posted by: Australian tarantulas rubbing their forelegs together in anticipation at July 15, 2018 01:08 PM (sdi6R)
470
india exists today as a sovereign republic and representational democracy because of british colonialism, which left them a civic structure, rail road infrastructure and common language that knit together a wildly divergent population.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 01:09 PM (Pg+x7)
471
"Sacrifice the losing team atop a ziggurat and I'll watch."
That would be great for ratings, no?
That would be great for ratings, no?
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 01:12 PM (pV/54)
472
... i've never understood india tilting toward the soviets - thought it was a big mistake. i'm very glad to see them ally with us recently, we're natural allies.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 01:12 PM (Pg+x7)
473
actually had some good times in France. Not universally good, but more good experiences with locals there than many well known E.U. countries. The only people who tossed political shite were the Brits. Maybe it was because I could understand them more, but no way was the UK friendlier than France.
On thing I have observed and this is just an opinion. The reason France and the USA butt heads is because they both think their nations are not only the best, but also the model for other countries. It is the similarity that breeds contempt. The French lost their influence, that is a major factor as well.
On thing I have observed and this is just an opinion. The reason France and the USA butt heads is because they both think their nations are not only the best, but also the model for other countries. It is the similarity that breeds contempt. The French lost their influence, that is a major factor as well.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 01:13 PM (n13/j)
474
india exists today as a sovereign republic and representational democracy because of british colonialism, which left them a civic structure, rail road infrastructure and common language that knit together a wildly divergent population.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 01:09 PM (Pg+x7)
In addition to that, the common English language would pay dividends to the later Indian immigrants to America.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 01:09 PM (Pg+x7)
In addition to that, the common English language would pay dividends to the later Indian immigrants to America.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 01:13 PM (y8Foj)
475
IIRC, France has the odd thing of treating its foreign possessions as literal French soil, and their inhabitants as full French citizens who can vote in French elections.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 01:07 PM (pV/54)
I think that's true of The Netherlands and the it's overseas possessions....
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 15, 2018 01:07 PM (pV/54)
I think that's true of The Netherlands and the it's overseas possessions....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 01:16 PM (y8Foj)
476
india exists today as a sovereign republic and
representational democracy because of british colonialism, which left
them a civic structure, rail road infrastructure and common language
that knit together a wildly divergent population.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 01:09 PM (Pg+x7)
In addition to that, the common English language would pay dividends to the later Indian immigrants to America.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 01:13 PM (y8Foj)
Many saw Hong Kong as such a success because it combined a Chinese work ethic with the British legal system. It unlocked the best of both worlds. Then the Brits surrendered the place. What a shame.
representational democracy because of british colonialism, which left
them a civic structure, rail road infrastructure and common language
that knit together a wildly divergent population.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 15, 2018 01:09 PM (Pg+x7)
In addition to that, the common English language would pay dividends to the later Indian immigrants to America.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 15, 2018 01:13 PM (y8Foj)
Many saw Hong Kong as such a success because it combined a Chinese work ethic with the British legal system. It unlocked the best of both worlds. Then the Brits surrendered the place. What a shame.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 01:17 PM (n13/j)
477
somewhere on humanprogress.org is an article wherein it is argued that western civ didn't really get going until trade routes to the East opened up and coffee beans came to Europe. Coffee supplanted booze as the preferred morning beverage. So the European tradesman started his day wired and alert, rather than relaxed and maybe a bit inebriated.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 15, 2018 11:46 AM (JQveK)
People Drank small Beer, it was lower in alcohol content so you didn't get drunk off of it but it was safe to drink.
If you get the chance their was a good episode on this Roman Doctor and the instruments he used, he had some that he used for Cataracts and it looked similar to what is used today, the difference being he would suck it out. He even put his instruments into the fire after each patient.
The Romans were a head on sewage and clean water. I saw Pompeii and it was amazing to see. They even had public bathrooms.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 15, 2018 11:46 AM (JQveK)
People Drank small Beer, it was lower in alcohol content so you didn't get drunk off of it but it was safe to drink.
If you get the chance their was a good episode on this Roman Doctor and the instruments he used, he had some that he used for Cataracts and it looked similar to what is used today, the difference being he would suck it out. He even put his instruments into the fire after each patient.
The Romans were a head on sewage and clean water. I saw Pompeii and it was amazing to see. They even had public bathrooms.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at July 15, 2018 01:20 PM (dKiJG)
478
Lease was up, Quint. They had to give it back.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 01:21 PM (gUCYC)
479
Lease was up, Quint. They had to give it back.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 01:21 PM (gUCYC)
yeah but there was a time when they would not just give up such things. I hope all that wanted to leave were allowed to do so with their life savings intact.
Lease was up, Quint. They had to give it back.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 01:21 PM (gUCYC)
yeah but there was a time when they would not just give up such things. I hope all that wanted to leave were allowed to do so with their life savings intact.
Posted by: Quint at July 15, 2018 01:23 PM (n13/j)
480
425 Well in 1799 and a bit later France was a world power, just not a naval world power
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That's what happens when you chase out your best captains the Huguenots. Duh.
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That's what happens when you chase out your best captains the Huguenots. Duh.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 15, 2018 01:24 PM (vV/gB)
481
478
Lease was up, Quint. They had to give it back.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 01:21 PM (gUCYC)
The original colony was a permanent ownership by the British. They did lease Kowloon Province and The New Territories for 99 years though. When those were due to expire they gave the entire colony back to China.
Lease was up, Quint. They had to give it back.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 01:21 PM (gUCYC)
The original colony was a permanent ownership by the British. They did lease Kowloon Province and The New Territories for 99 years though. When those were due to expire they gave the entire colony back to China.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 01:29 PM (mpXpK)
482
I have a suspicion that it's more likely that people
boiled water because they wanted tea or coffee and the benefit of
boiling it was completely overlooked.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:56 AM (y87Qq)
Mind, you have to boil your grains and keep it as sterile as possible when you are making beer too.
The old books have instructions on how to do that and warnings about spoiled beer as well.
One memoir I read, and I cannot remember if it was maybe Moll Flanders (yes, I know, fiction) or Elizabeth Moxon, or someone just quoted in brief in another book, talked about how a widow bought up another's beer business which was pretty much one hogshead and a boiler, and proceeded to lose everything to spoiled beer, but she talked a bit about the process.
That sort of non-hopped beer would start out mostly sterile from boiling and then as the fermentation started, it would be sterilized by alcohol, but bad yeast and bacterial contamination would make it undrinkable.
boiled water because they wanted tea or coffee and the benefit of
boiling it was completely overlooked.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 11:56 AM (y87Qq)
Mind, you have to boil your grains and keep it as sterile as possible when you are making beer too.
The old books have instructions on how to do that and warnings about spoiled beer as well.
One memoir I read, and I cannot remember if it was maybe Moll Flanders (yes, I know, fiction) or Elizabeth Moxon, or someone just quoted in brief in another book, talked about how a widow bought up another's beer business which was pretty much one hogshead and a boiler, and proceeded to lose everything to spoiled beer, but she talked a bit about the process.
That sort of non-hopped beer would start out mostly sterile from boiling and then as the fermentation started, it would be sterilized by alcohol, but bad yeast and bacterial contamination would make it undrinkable.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2018 01:35 PM (2K6fY)
483
I love reading this on Sundays, thanks!
Posted by: jocon307 at July 15, 2018 01:41 PM (QnbOD)
484
401---That's actually a good example of the slippery way historical eras are used. Since it's bad, we call it "Medieval". This despite the fact that what is said is equally true of the Renaissance and Enlightenment eras (and all earlier ones.)
But the Renaissance is the worst. Jacques Barzun called it a movable feast. And C S Lewis said it really referred to anything the speaker approved of between 1200 and 1700. Hexter, whom I've already cited, came to the conclusion that the term should just be dropped. It's just too lacking in content or reference beyond meaning "good". Sort of the reversal of Orwell saying that "fascism" had come to mean nothing more than "something not desirable."
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 12:41 PM (59GGI)
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Very well said!
Fear of being willowed restrains me from adding more.
But the Renaissance is the worst. Jacques Barzun called it a movable feast. And C S Lewis said it really referred to anything the speaker approved of between 1200 and 1700. Hexter, whom I've already cited, came to the conclusion that the term should just be dropped. It's just too lacking in content or reference beyond meaning "good". Sort of the reversal of Orwell saying that "fascism" had come to mean nothing more than "something not desirable."
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 12:41 PM (59GGI)
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Very well said!
Fear of being willowed restrains me from adding more.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 15, 2018 01:43 PM (0jtPF)
485
So the Folio Library in Seattle:
"Those who are visiting and want to explore a little deeper can buy daily or weekly memberships for $5 or $15, respectively."
Sounds like a great place to try and read your copy of The Art of the Deal while wearing the MAGA hat and shirt. Betcha get bumrushed at the entrance.
"Those who are visiting and want to explore a little deeper can buy daily or weekly memberships for $5 or $15, respectively."
Sounds like a great place to try and read your copy of The Art of the Deal while wearing the MAGA hat and shirt. Betcha get bumrushed at the entrance.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 15, 2018 01:55 PM (e1mEI)
Posted by: mindful webworker - belatedly at July 15, 2018 02:08 PM (U/u2R)
487
Blacks have been getting reparations since 1965. And later Pigford-I and II came along and gave them $5K for growing a tomato bush on the front porch in a pot.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 02:23 PM (mpXpK)
488
oops, wrong thread.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 02:25 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: creeper...not sinister, just slow at July 15, 2018 02:31 PM (wmK60)
490
Greetings:
Funny how you never read or hear about "occupied" Northern Ireland like that Middle Eastern concoction.
Recently, in these possibly impending Brexit days, there's been a bit of brouhaha about the impact on ("occupied") Northern Ireland vis-a-vis the free movement of people and goods once its out of the Euro-borg. Funny how giving it back to the Republic of Ireland (Eire), which remains in and seems to be enjoying its socialism abortion rights, never seems to come up in the discussions.
Funny how you never read or hear about "occupied" Northern Ireland like that Middle Eastern concoction.
Recently, in these possibly impending Brexit days, there's been a bit of brouhaha about the impact on ("occupied") Northern Ireland vis-a-vis the free movement of people and goods once its out of the Euro-borg. Funny how giving it back to the Republic of Ireland (Eire), which remains in and seems to be enjoying its socialism abortion rights, never seems to come up in the discussions.
Posted by: 11B40 at July 15, 2018 02:32 PM (evgyj)
491
427 > Not what N A M Rodger says.
He might say that, but it makes no sense. A pint of grog (measured after mixing with water) isn't nearly enough to prevent dehydration, especially for men doing heavy work.
They got water or (preferably) small beer in addition to the grog ration.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 15, 2018 12:52 PM (GXOTw)
They got water. Which is the point I was making, that they didn't drink ONLY alcohol/coffee/tea.
But drunkenness was too big a problem to give them more. So they drank good old water, albeit not all that good after being so long in wood casks. In the early 19th C iron water tanks began to be used.
He might say that, but it makes no sense. A pint of grog (measured after mixing with water) isn't nearly enough to prevent dehydration, especially for men doing heavy work.
They got water or (preferably) small beer in addition to the grog ration.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 15, 2018 12:52 PM (GXOTw)
They got water. Which is the point I was making, that they didn't drink ONLY alcohol/coffee/tea.
But drunkenness was too big a problem to give them more. So they drank good old water, albeit not all that good after being so long in wood casks. In the early 19th C iron water tanks began to be used.
Posted by: George LeS at July 15, 2018 02:49 PM (59GGI)
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Paraphrased: Somebody lost our corkscrew. We were forced to live on food and water for several days.
Fields' inflections were delightful.
Paraphrased: Somebody lost our corkscrew. We were forced to live on food and water for several days.
Fields' inflections were delightful.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 15, 2018 03:35 PM (TPaJb)
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Fee Fi Folio I has Book Worms...THE END.
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