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Weekend Gun Thread

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The Quote of The Day

"I consider it a truly grand thing. It will be an irrevocable part of political life that guns are downloadable, and we helped to do that." Cody Wilson


Undermining gun control by legal means. To borrow a phrase, "I love it when a plan comes together."

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The Federal Bureau of Incompetence, FBI Strikes again.

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Feelin' mechanically inclined? Build your own 10/22.

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As a firearms owner, it is best to hone up on your legal rights. Probably not a bad thing to have a couple of these printed off and in your castle. h/t redc1c4

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California resident? Haven't registered any of your "assault weapons"? Some advice for you.

Also maybe it's time to leave that 2nd world shit-hole and come over to the U.S. of A.

And by the way, rational residents of Seattle may want to flee their city as well.

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A lurker who wants to remain really, really, really anonymous submitted this photo to the Weekend Gun Thread with strict instructions. Don't mention me or I will have to use these on you Mis. Hum.

Discretion being the better part of valor I agreed. Needless to say this was a small collection of firearms that he/she had with some of his/her friends at a local range.

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Have you found some extra loose change in your auto? Perhaps under some couch cushions. Interesting gun sale.

If any of you 'rons or 'ettes purchase from Steyr Arms let us know about it.


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But will your skin be back in 20 minutes? The Chinese say they have one bad-ass laser assault weapon.


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(Sweet)

Does anyone here have one of these? Or were they all lost in the Great Canoe Accident?


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WANT vs. NEED. Try explaining this to the significant other.


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Always accepting tips, stories, photos, eye & hearing protection along with the stray .22LR brick here at petmorons at gmail dot com.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 06:58 PM




Comments

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1 Primo!

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 06:58 PM (yQpMk)

2 Segundo!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 15, 2018 06:59 PM (gUCYC)

3 That gal is about to get her eye poked out unless that is a .22.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 07:00 PM (mpXpK)

4 Top ten!

Posted by: Surfperch at July 15, 2018 07:00 PM (j6XEO)

5 I have more than I need, and less than I want.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2018 07:00 PM (DMUuz)

6 I need to sell some.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 07:01 PM (yQpMk)

7 5 I have more than I need, and less than I want.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2018 07:00 PM (DMUuz)

I think I belong to that club.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 15, 2018 07:01 PM (3Pma+)

8 Heck yeah my superhuman ability to summon new thread with one post remains in effect. Woohoo!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 07:01 PM (YPqbH)

9 That gal is about to get her eye poked out unless that is a .22.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 07:00 PM (mpXpK)

I've seen that pic numerous times, and every time I pray it's a joke pic. I actually assume it is.

I hope.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 15, 2018 07:01 PM (EhZNT)

10 And willowed:

Is there a gub thread in queue? I want to talk about NFA Trusts.



Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 06:57 PM (yQpMk)



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I like the idea of them, but I'm reluctant to
be the one our state Attorney General decides to take to court to
establish the state's position on them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 07:02 PM (YPqbH)

11 Can we talk bout curing squirrel if nicked with grandkids pellet gun?

Posted by: Lone ranger at July 15, 2018 07:03 PM (X7St+)

12 Can we talk bout curing squirrel if nicked with grandkids pellet gun?

Posted by: Lone ranger at July 15, 2018 07:03 PM (X7St+)


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There's no real cure. The best thing is to just put them down quickly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 07:03 PM (YPqbH)

13 Again I suspect she is just looking through the scope

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2018 07:04 PM (pHfeF)

14 Does anyone here have one of these? Or were they all lost in the Great Canoe Accident?

Yes and yes. With ivory grips.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2018 07:04 PM (Ja30+)

15 It may be too late but today is the last day of SilencerCo's bogo summer kickoff sale.

http://bit.ly/2L2J884

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 07:04 PM (yQpMk)

16 WOW!!!

Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at July 15, 2018 07:04 PM (9TR2V)

17 Repost from last night's overnight thread:

Hobbyists firing their refurbished German FLAK 36 88mm guns:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_bGczFQIOc

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 15, 2018 07:04 PM (GXOTw)

18 That looks like a break-barrel. She'll be ok.

Posted by: t-bird at July 15, 2018 07:05 PM (LA2U/)

19 Over at Breitbart.

Police try to confiscate a Vets guns


Because of something his SON may have said at school.


Some here try to tell us the Police will never enforce gun confiscation laws... but

Posted by: Don Q at July 15, 2018 07:06 PM (NgKpN)

20 And on a related note from a couple of weeks back about the Henry lever action .410 shotgun.

Mrs. MH has given the full blessing, plus she says she may even use it.

Woot Woot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 15, 2018 07:06 PM (3Pma+)

21 I want you to want me
I need you to need me

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 07:06 PM (JFO2v)

22 Had a racoon visit a couple days ago. Tried to waste it with my 9mm. I can't hit the broad side of a barn from the inside.

Posted by: Ronster at July 15, 2018 07:07 PM (NZ1jb)

23 OH, and top picture?

How to make sure she never gives you another BJ.

Posted by: Don Q at July 15, 2018 07:07 PM (NgKpN)

24 Had a racoon visit a couple days ago. Tried to waste it with my 9mm. I can't hit the broad side of a barn from the inside.
Posted by: Ronster at July 15, 2018 07:07 PM (NZ1jb)


And I thought raccoons smelled bad on the outside.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 07:07 PM (y87Qq)

25 Lets see, when that gal fires her gun the bullet goes this way that the gun goes that way....

Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 07:08 PM (qIn6A)

26 I didn't go to the greatest auto parts store in the world yesterday. It does not have a "cage room" off to the side full of guns and ammo.

I didn't ask about the mysterious Sig P365 that they also didn't have.

I didn't buy a Ruger LCP instead just because.

I didn't take down and add a little Hoppes to said LCP today that I didn't buy yesterday for $224, all in.

Anyway, If I had done all of the above, would any of the horde have any personal experience with said weapon that I totally don't have?

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 07:08 PM (g3egi)

27 Just remember, if the government turns to tyranny the police will NOT side with the Constitution. With very few exceptions they will do as they are ordered.

Posted by: Guzalot at July 15, 2018 07:08 PM (schB/)

28 Henry lever action .410 shotgun.


I want one so bad.

Posted by: Ronster at July 15, 2018 07:09 PM (NZ1jb)

29 Moron Robbie...

You are correct and i have way to many.

Posted by: Lone ranger at July 15, 2018 07:09 PM (X7St+)

30 This week was Star Super B week. Nice 1911 knock off in 9mm made by the now defunct but fondly remembered Star Bonifacio Echeverria, S.A.

Great pistols, one was made in 1970 and the other in 1972, accurate and the action is slick as butter.

Once new, now old skool. Every time I take them out of storage they still impress me.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2018 07:09 PM (EoRCO)

31 I own the .380 ACP version of the pistol in the last picture, Colt M1908 Pocket Hammerless. Based on the serial number, she was manufactured in the early 1920s.

The finish is no where near as nice as the lovely in the picture.

Posted by: Butch at July 15, 2018 07:10 PM (hXu8T)

32 Again I suspect she is just looking through the scope
Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2018 07:04 PM (pHfeF)

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I hope so, or Vic is right.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 07:10 PM (oXwsm)

33 And on a related note from a couple of weeks back about the Henry lever action .410 shotgun.



Mrs. MH has given the full blessing, plus she says she may even use it.



Woot Woot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 15, 2018 07:06 PM (3Pma+)


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I've got one an old Winchester 9410 and absolutely love it. It's one of my favorite guns by a long shot, and is a viable pot-filler with shot for squirrels and deer at 50 yards or so using slugs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 07:10 PM (YPqbH)

34 We went to a pawn shop yesterday to look around.

He had a couple of machine guns in there, and he will let you rent one to use in his indoor gun range.

I think that would be a great Christmas gift for the Old Man. I wonder if they sell gift certificates.

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 07:11 PM (8kkL4)

35 Back to the range yesterday. I needed the break.
Put another box through the Star BM. It still wants to hammer bite me. Though it got me thinking, maybe I'm SUPPOSED to be wearing gloves with this gun? I mean it was police issue in Spain. Yup, wearing gloves, no blood lost, no accuracy lost, either. Good little pistol, all things considered.

Also put two boxes through the Glock 36. Damn, that thing is like a laser. But it does buck. The G36 is actually smaller and lighter than the Star BM, while holding only one round less.

Technology is cool.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2018 07:11 PM (34CI4)

36 Cal registry
Reg your gun We are coming for you.
Dont We are coming for you

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 07:11 PM (JFO2v)

37 Dangit, now I'm probably going to end up buying one of those Henry ones. Thanks a lot, guys.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 07:12 PM (YPqbH)

38 Which is more capable, The FBI or a Rancid Tub of Lard?

Posted by: Under Fire at July 15, 2018 07:12 PM (r9UYA)

39 23 I accomplished that the old fashioned way. I married her

Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at July 15, 2018 07:12 PM (9TR2V)

40 RE the Ruger LCP. I carry one every day. Because of the light weight and short sight radius it's snappy and takes a lot of practice to shoot well. Once you have mastered it you will find that you are more accurate with all of your handguns. Great little easily concealable gun that is very reliable.

Posted by: Guzalot at July 15, 2018 07:12 PM (schB/)

41 What a shame that table of fine weaponry had to go down in a tragic canoe accident...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 15, 2018 07:13 PM (kVLm4)

42 Which is more capable, The FBI or a Rancid Tub of Lard?
Posted by: Under Fire at July 15, 2018 07:12 PM (r9UYA)

Mike Moore?.......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2018 07:13 PM (EoRCO)

43 Posted by: Guzalot at July 15, 2018 07:12 PM (schB/)

Thanks. I look forward to not shooting it.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 07:14 PM (g3egi)

44 It's ridiculous that our (R) Congress and (R) House couldn't send something regarding protecting our hearing to our (R) President.

Useless f*ckers.

Wait, we got a tax cut that will expire, so there's that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 07:15 PM (YPqbH)

45 Typo: (R) Congress = (R) Senate. But you knew that already.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 07:16 PM (YPqbH)

46 Which is more capable, The FBI or a Rancid Tub of Lard?



Posted by: Under Fire at July 15, 2018 07:12 PM (r9UYA)

Efrem Zimbalist Jr. would say the FBI, but that was back in the olden days.

Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 07:16 PM (qIn6A)

47 I just started dry firing my target pistols after a 3 year lay off. I just go to the safe once a week and pick out a couple of different ones to practice with. Keep a few under the desk just for comfort sake.

Posted by: JimK at July 15, 2018 07:16 PM (uAlm4)

48 That gal is about to get her eye poked out unless that is a .22.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 15, 2018 07:00 PM (mpXpK)


I'm pretty certain that is an air rifle. There appears to be a hinge at middle of the barrel just in front of the end of the stock.

Bad form. Mrs Cop wants to have the butt plate too high, also. It seems a lot of female novice rifle shooters have a problem: probably because they don't want to smoosh their bewbs.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 15, 2018 07:17 PM (5Yee7)

49 @weirdflunky

LCP or LCP II?

LCP II is a very nice subcompact. I did not much like the trigger on the model 1 version.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2018 07:18 PM (34CI4)

50 memes shouldn't have the right to vote.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 15, 2018 07:18 PM (XN4C4)

51 Per ad in American Rifleman.

Kel Tec: Important safety recall of Kel Tec SUB-2000 Rifles.Purchased in 2017 Orr 2018, do not load or fire it. Potential heat treatment issue that could cause barrel rupture.

Contact Kel Tec- ecalls@keltcweapons.com Or

321.631.0068 ext.136 9-4 EST

They will check your SN. And you can have barrel replaced free. This has been a public service to morons announcement.

Posted by: Choo Choo fucking Charley at July 15, 2018 07:18 PM (Zmczq)

52 28
Henry lever action .410 shotgun.


I want one so bad.

I really regret not picking up a Winchester 9410 when they came out. Now they're just too damn expensive.

Posted by: JimK at July 15, 2018 07:18 PM (uAlm4)

53 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2018 07:18 PM (34CI4)

LCP

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 07:19 PM (g3egi)

54 Here's a deal in 9mm plastic

Taurus PT111 G2C 9mm 3.2in pistol 12rd black FREE Shipping

http://bit.ly/2JnPFZu

$169 with free shipping after promo code TAKE15.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 07:19 PM (yQpMk)

55 Julian Assange faked that pic of the girl with the gun about to turn herself into a pirate.

I read that on the internet. Just now. So did you.

Go and tell the others what you have seen here.

Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 07:19 PM (RuIsu)

56 If your spousal unit needs an explanation of the difference between need and want in the purchase of weapons. ...
Explain instead the difference between need and want with regard to shoes. This might result in discovering the difference between need and want as it pertains to a bed/couch sleeping arrangement.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 15, 2018 07:19 PM (myjNJ)

57 RE the Ruger LCP. I carry one every day. Because of the light weight and short sight radius it's snappy and takes a lot of practice to shoot well. Once you have mastered it you will find that you are more accurate with all of your handguns. Great little easily concealable gun that is very reliable.
Posted by: Guzalot at July 15, 2018 07:12 PM (schB/)

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I had one, but got rid of it in favor of a Bersa Thunder .380. Yeah, the Bersa and heavier, being an all metal gun, but that's why it works for me.

I couldn't stand practicing with the LCP. After one mag of FMJ and one mag of JHP, my hand felt like I had just hit a broken bat baseball.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 07:19 PM (oXwsm)

58 I don't think I have ever seen a women deer hunter....Probably just haven't looked hard enough. Never met one in the woods, but what do I know.

Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 07:20 PM (qIn6A)

59 41 What a shame that table of fine weaponry had to go down in a tragic canoe accident...
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 15, 2018 07:13 PM (kVLm4)

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Ikr...

*sigh*

Posted by: SMH at July 15, 2018 07:21 PM (Z8+SR)

60 LCP
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 07:19 PM (g3egi)

As has been said above, it will take some practice but you can make it work. It's very 'carryable'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2018 07:21 PM (34CI4)

61
Colt 1911 vs RIA 1911.

Posted by: Spun & Murky at July 15, 2018 07:22 PM (4DCSq)

62 Wow, that's a steal on that PT111.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 07:23 PM (YPqbH)

63 As has been said above, it will take some practice but you can make it work. It's very 'carryable'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2018 07:21 PM (34CI4)

Replacing a Kel Tec. Lots of folks hate on the KT but it has never failed to go bang which to me is kind of the point.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 07:24 PM (g3egi)

64 I purchased a $49 NFA Trust document from The Trust Shop last week. I'm taking it to a notary tomorrow to officialize it by transferring one of my 92s to it.

It looks pretty straight forward. We shall see if the ATF accepts it.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 07:24 PM (yQpMk)

65 Where is her finger in relation to the trigger?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2018 07:25 PM (IqV8l)

66 You know you are getting old when your wife has to remind you that today is your 29th birthday.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 15, 2018 07:25 PM (wdmm9)

67 Wow, that's a steal on that PT111.

I thought so. In your hands for $169 + your FFL's transfer fee.

That's the same place I got my rm380s for $129 delivered.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 07:25 PM (yQpMk)

68 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 15, 2018 07:25 PM (wdmm9)

Happy Birthday

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 07:26 PM (g3egi)

69 I couldn't stand practicing with the LCP. After one mag of FMJ and one mag of JHP, my hand felt like I had just hit a broken bat baseball.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 07:19 PM (oXwsm)
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Yeah, it's not a gun to shoot just for fun, but you can train past the pain. Kind of like Beatrix learning the 3-inch in punch in Kill Bill, it sucks at first but you'll find yourself a better shot overall once you've mastered it.

Posted by: Guzalot at July 15, 2018 07:26 PM (schB/)

70 I have 5 hunting rifles hidden in the garage. When they come for them, I'd bet they would never find them...I hope. I keep my 22 in the closet, that might satisfy them. (By "them" I mean the state police, local cops don't care)

Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 07:26 PM (qIn6A)

71 Where is her finger in relation to the trigger?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2018 07:25 PM (IqV8l)

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Where it is supposed to be, unless one is getting ready to fire.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 07:26 PM (oXwsm)

72 Ray Emery, former NHL goalie, drowns in Canada

Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2018 07:26 PM (e8kgV)

73 65
Where is her finger in relation to the trigger?

Maybe she was just using the scope for bird watching. Hard to imagine a target set up that high.

Posted by: JimK at July 15, 2018 07:26 PM (uAlm4)

74 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 15, 2018 07:26 PM (KCxzN)

75 Regarding the LCP,

Pro Tip: Install a Pachmayr grip.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2018 07:27 PM (DMUuz)

76 63 As has been said above, it will take some practice but you can make it work. It's very 'carryable'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2018 07:21 PM (34CI4)

Replacing a Kel Tec. Lots of folks hate on the KT but it has never failed to go bang which to me is kind of the point.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 07:24 PM (g3egi)

I still have my PF9. It does sometimes eject mags in my holster, which is not fun. But it's been fine other than that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2018 07:27 PM (34CI4)

77 Regarding the pic of the bevy of lovely weapons put out by our nameless lurker, will you marry me?

Oh, you're a guy? *rubs chin and ponders next move*.
Don't rush me, I'm thinking. . . .

Posted by: tonypete at July 15, 2018 07:28 PM (9rIkM)

78 we were talking to one of our more knowledgeable toy store owners (they have multiple FFLs, including Mfg, etc) and she said that they could be a source of much trouble, at least here in #Failifornia.

it was a few years back, so i don't remember the details, but she always gives solid advice, so we stopped considering it.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 15, 2018 07:28 PM (v7EWn)

79 How to make sure she never gives you another BJ.
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I'll keep an eye out for you!

Posted by: just the punchline at July 15, 2018 07:28 PM (Evws/)

80 Pro Tip: Install a Pachmayr grip.

+100. A pachmayr makes a duty pistol.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 07:28 PM (yQpMk)

81 I don't think I have ever seen a women deer hunter.

I know at least one. She was pretty excited when she bagged her first buck and it's hanging on the wall of her office.

Posted by: fre#ked at July 15, 2018 07:29 PM (UdKB7)

82 Maybe she was just using the scope for bird watching. Hard to imagine a target set up that high.


Posted by: JimK at July 15, 2018 07:26 PM (uAlm4)

Know big canons like I do, she has computed the angle of the barrel when shooting for 5000 yards.

Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 07:29 PM (qIn6A)

83 Added to wishlist...

http://steyrarms.com/firearms/sporting-rifles/steyr-aug-a3-m1.html

Posted by: SMH at July 15, 2018 07:30 PM (Z8+SR)

84 Well not the whole deer just it's head.

Posted by: fre#ked at July 15, 2018 07:30 PM (UdKB7)

85 72 Ray Emery, former NHL goalie, drowns in Canada
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Global warming!

Posted by: Al Gore at July 15, 2018 07:31 PM (arhmY)

86 http://steyrarms.com/firearms/sporting-rifles/steyr-aug-a3-m1.html


Those always look like you should be wearing a space suit or mech armor to be carrying one.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 07:31 PM (yQpMk)

87 Speaking of stray .22LR, don't forget one in your pants pocket. Through the washer and the dryer, and the wife still grouses about it.

Posted by: Asko at July 15, 2018 07:32 PM (bU2C7)

88
Install a Pachmayr grip.

I remember Pachmayr from Babylon 5.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2018 07:33 PM (IqV8l)

89 Colin
I don't know where you are but here in Central WA, lots of women hunt. I've encountered them in all seasons either hunting, bow or firearms or out scouting.
Pretty common. Most shoot for the freezer so that's good.

Posted by: Winston at July 15, 2018 07:33 PM (wgCUV)

90 86 http://steyrarms.com/firearms/sporting-rifles/steyr-aug-a3-m1.html


Those always look like you should be wearing a space suit or mech armor to be carrying one.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 07:31 PM (yQpMk)

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I know...

*sigh*

Posted by: SMH at July 15, 2018 07:34 PM (Z8+SR)

91 89 Colin
I don't know where you are but here in Central WA, lots of women hunt. I've encountered them in all seasons either hunting, bow or firearms or out scouting.
Pretty common. Most shoot for the freezer so that's good.
Posted by: Winston at July 15, 2018 07:33 PM (wgCUV)

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Lots of women hunt in these parts also.

Posted by: SMH at July 15, 2018 07:35 PM (Z8+SR)

92 I don't know where you are but here in Central WA,
lots of women hunt. I've encountered them in all seasons either hunting,
bow or firearms or out scouting.

Pretty common. Most shoot for the freezer so that's good.

Posted by: Winston at July 15, 2018 07:33 PM (wgCUV)

I'm in upstate NY, not of course saying women don't hunt. Its just my experience of who I meet in the woods.

Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 07:35 PM (qIn6A)

93 47
I just started dry firing my target pistols after a 3 year lay off. I
just go to the safe once a week and pick out a couple of different ones
to practice with. Keep a few under the desk just for comfort sake.


Posted by: JimK at July 15, 2018 07:16 PM (uAlm4)

If everyone did this for just a few minutes every day, our society could end diabetes and Leftism in our lifetimes.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 15, 2018 07:36 PM (UsCnO)

94 Pro Tip: Install a Pachmayr grip.
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Tried one, hated it. Those rubber grips just don't stay in place if you regularly pocket carry. If you need a better grip get the stick-on Talon grips. They're ugly but they work well and don't slip.

Posted by: Guzalot at July 15, 2018 07:36 PM (schB/)

95 Gotcha, Colin.

My condolences.

Posted by: SMH at July 15, 2018 07:36 PM (Z8+SR)

96 93
47

I just started dry firing my target pistols after a 3 year lay off. I

just go to the safe once a week and pick out a couple of different ones

to practice with. Keep a few under the desk just for comfort sake.




Posted by: JimK at July 15, 2018 07:16 PM (uAlm4)

If everyone did this for just a few minutes every day, our society could end diabetes and Leftism in our lifetimes.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 15, 2018 07:36 PM (UsCnO)


Trouble is Lefties are afraid of guns.

Posted by: JimK at July 15, 2018 07:38 PM (uAlm4)

97 The rifle in the picture appears to be a spring-air rifle. The hold is still wrong of course. And spring-air guns do have some recoil-- the recoil goes back and then forward, a recoil pattern notorious for shaking apart scopes that are not built to take it.

The recoil is modest overall, but as a dumb kid I put the stock of a relatively weak spring-air rifle on the point of my chin and the spring-driven recoil nearly knocked me silly. The woman may actually be at some risk of a shiner.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 15, 2018 07:40 PM (t5m5e)

98 Trouble is Lefties are afraid of guns.


Posted by: JimK at July 15, 2018 07:38 PM (uAlm4)

That's why I don't worry about who is going to win the next civil war!

Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 07:40 PM (qIn6A)

99 Upstate NY. I'm sorry.
It does vary somewhat by locale though.
Western WA is so anti gun crazy that even admitting to knowing a gun owner can get you ostracized.
Seattle's feelz law is unenforceable of course. Unless they really do want to send the cops door to door. I'm so glad I escaped here to the sane side of the mountains.

Posted by: Winston at July 15, 2018 07:40 PM (wgCUV)

100 her finger ain't even on the trigger

Posted by: Ben Wa at July 15, 2018 07:40 PM (FTPVM)

101 I thought Blair White was Shoe-on-head, but from older videos with less surgery.

Posted by: Downcast at July 15, 2018 07:40 PM (VWE5i)

102 I like my Pachmayr grips but they are bigger than the original wood grips on my Colt 357 so could see as a daily carry one might not want them.

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2018 07:40 PM (pHfeF)

103 She's just sighting through the scope

She's a good girl

Posted by: Ben Wa at July 15, 2018 07:41 PM (FTPVM)

104 That girl married to Atz Lee on "Alaska the last Frontier" made a circle around her eye with a scope. Atz and Atz Lee are both dumb asses.

Posted by: Ronster at July 15, 2018 07:41 PM (NZ1jb)

105
Most shoot for the freezer

But sometimes hit the stove.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2018 07:42 PM (IqV8l)

106 They don't let you ship a 'assault weapon ' out of Leftifornia intact?
F'n fascists

Posted by: Skip at July 15, 2018 07:42 PM (pHfeF)

107 When I told her just the tip, she didn't believe me.
We're going try out 12 gage shotguns next.

Posted by: Fritz at July 15, 2018 07:43 PM (eAr55)

108 Also put two boxes through the Glock 36. Damn, that thing is like a laser. But it does buck. The G36 is actually smaller and lighter than the Star BM, while holding only one round less.

Technology is cool.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 15, 2018 07:11 PM (34CI4)


I love my Glock 36. Fits my hand perfectly and points naturally at the target. Not much bigger than an old school .380 ACP, such the Walther PPK/S, but chambered in .45ACP! It was what I carried as a Detective.

That being said, it does buck a bit but I don't think that they are uncontrollable. The G36 is rather under-appreciated, but I think they are a great pistol.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 15, 2018 07:43 PM (5Yee7)

109 Like NY State, big difference from the NYC to upstate. Although you would be surprised the number of hunters that come upstate during big game season. Not all city people are soy boys.

Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 07:43 PM (qIn6A)

110 They don't let you ship a 'assault weapon ' out of Leftifornia intact?

What do you mean? You can't mail it to yourself c/o of someone out of state?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 07:43 PM (yQpMk)

111 Elk burgers mixed with Italian sausage .
Venison stew. There is even a local who sells buffalo from his own herd.
I don't hunt but do encounter hunters and scouts often in the mountains in the better places to visit.
Better places means, not discovered by west side loons.

Posted by: Winston at July 15, 2018 07:44 PM (wgCUV)

112 I really like the Pachmayr Grip Gloves for my Glock(s).


Posted by: Under Fire at July 15, 2018 07:44 PM (r9UYA)

113 I took my brother to the pistol range Friday before last and he did not like the fat grip of the 92FS, at all. Which surprised me because I think it feels good in the hand.

He did really like the 1911, but who doesn't. I have literally never had anyone fire the 1911 and not be grinning. There's a reason they still sell after 107 years.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 07:46 PM (yQpMk)

114 I would like to resurrect King George III, because having a seafaring colonial empire is preferable to to a country that is afraid of Belgium plutocrats and steak knives.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 15, 2018 07:47 PM (rnAwa)

115 Plenty of places to pass over into Nevada on little used roads. (or no real roads)

Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 07:48 PM (qIn6A)

116 I thought that federal law controlled as far as interstate shipping of firearms.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 07:49 PM (yQpMk)

117 To answer the Colt question:

I have 13 1903's

no kidding.

Posted by: retropox at July 15, 2018 07:49 PM (34a33)

118 Tried one, hated it. Those rubber grips just don't stay in place if you regularly pocket carry. If you need a better grip get the stick-on Talon grips. They're ugly but they work well and don't slip.
Posted by: Guzalot at July 15, 2018 07:36 PM


If those don't work for you, move up a step to the Hogue Handall for the LCP. It's pinned to the grip.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2018 07:49 PM (DMUuz)

119 87 Speaking of stray .22LR, don't forget one in your pants pocket. Through the washer and the dryer, and the wife still grouses about it.
Posted by: Asko at July 15, 2018 07:32 PM (bU2C7)


Who me?
With my razor sharp memory?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 15, 2018 07:50 PM (3Pma+)

120 I'll keep an eye open for you Jonny DEPP...bang on wot ho.....

Posted by: saf at July 15, 2018 07:51 PM (5IHGB)

121 99
Upstate NY. I'm sorry.

It does vary somewhat by locale though.

Western WA is so anti gun crazy that even admitting to knowing a gun owner can get you ostracized.

Seattle's feelz law is unenforceable of course. Unless they really
do want to send the cops door to door. I'm so glad I escaped here to the
sane side of the mountains.

Posted by: Winston at July 15, 2018 07:40 PM (wgCUV)

Those of us still in the Seattle area have learned over the past few years not to lead with any pro-gun/2A/self-defense statements when meeting new people.

A few drinks in, it is usually pretty obvious if the newbie is friend or foe to Constitutional rights. I always check now, and they don't even know it.
And I am not referring to the ones that are truly batshit-crazy pinkhats. Lots and lots of them around.

A few years ago, went to a gathering at a friend-of-a-friend's home. A couple of good friends were there, and we proceeded to talk like we talk here at an AoS gun thread.
A new neighbor came up and said, "wow, I just moved here and I didn't think any one talked like you guys do". Later that season, we took him out to the woods for some target shooting. Now another friend for life.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 15, 2018 07:52 PM (UsCnO)

122 103 She's just sighting through the scope

She's a good girl
Posted by: Ben Wa at July 15, 2018 07:41 PM (FTPVM)

*gush gush gush*

*squirt*

Posted by: Pirate girl at July 15, 2018 07:52 PM (XN4C4)

123 I thought that federal law controlled as far as interstate shipping of firearms.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 07:49 PM (yQpMk)

-------------

Like many things, correct in theory, no so much in actual practice.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 07:52 PM (oXwsm)

124 I know at least one. She was pretty excited when she bagged her first buck and it's hanging on the wall of her office.
Posted by: fre#ked at July 15, 2018 07:29 PM (UdKB7)


I know of a second. Her dad is an avid hunter and was showing off pictures of his 18 year old daughter with her first buck. I looked and said, "Nice buck; hey, is that a Winchester model 12?" Ended up being her grandfather's shotgun (himself an avid hunter).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 15, 2018 07:53 PM (5Yee7)

125 if you are shipping your "AW" OUT of #Failifornia, using an AW licensed FFL, there's no problem shipping a whole gub out.

except, of course that, if it's an "AW", and it's not registered with the state, prior to the deadline, i'm fairly certain the FFL won't touch it, out of self-preservation vis a vis the CA DOJ.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 15, 2018 07:53 PM (v7EWn)

126
There's been talk of the LCP aftermarket grips. What about the LCR?

Have it in .38 Special. It punishes your hand. Can't even imagine one in .357 mag?

Posted by: Spun & Murky at July 15, 2018 07:54 PM (4DCSq)

127 My name is Perry Mason. I was working late in my office late Saturday night when a woman walked in without a sound and pointed a pair of '45s at me. She also had a gun...

She told me she had a case for me. So we sat down and drank most of it...

Posted by: Perry Mason at July 15, 2018 07:54 PM (DMUuz)

128 I grew up with my 22 Winchester WRF. From wood chucks to whatever since I was old enough to hold it up, and I was out ALONE.....No one went with me.

Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 07:55 PM (qIn6A)

129 Anybody here own a Saiga shotgun? Are you able to cycle 2-3/4" shells?

Posted by: Alpine Crotch at July 15, 2018 07:57 PM (6Na2M)

130 She told me she had a case for me. So we sat down and drank most of it...
Posted by: Perry Mason at July 15, 2018 07:54 PM (DMUuz)

I thought he played for the other team.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2018 07:58 PM (EoRCO)

131 38 Which is more capable, The FBI or a Rancid Tub of Lard?

Posted by: Under Fire at July 15, 2018 07:12 PM (r9UYA)

Whats more evil? KKK or IRS?

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 15, 2018 07:58 PM (JFO2v)

132 Where does one acquire shells for a 88mm flak gun..asking for a friend.

Posted by: Helofixer at July 15, 2018 07:58 PM (15ALc)

133 Some here try to tell us the Police will never enforce gun confiscation laws... but
Posted by: Don Q at July 15, 2018 07:06 PM (NgKpN)

Not at all. I fully expect the police to blindly follow orders no matter what. Just as you are to assume the gun is loaded no matter what, assume the cop you are dealing with does not see any difference between "legal" and "moral".

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at July 15, 2018 07:59 PM (rlQwD)

134 109
Like NY State, big difference from the NYC to upstate. Although you
would be surprised the number of hunters that come upstate during big
game season. Not all city people are soy boys.

Back in the late 70's I had a loft on Greenwich street. On of my neighbors was a black dude who was a plumber by trade. He was also a big game hunter and reloader.

Posted by: JimK at July 15, 2018 08:00 PM (uAlm4)

135 Farmer and rancher's daughters love to hunt.

Posted by: 1st world problems yoga studio at July 15, 2018 08:00 PM (XN4C4)

136 Where does one acquire shells for a 88mm flak gun..asking for a friend.

The Lee dies for it are expensive.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 08:02 PM (yQpMk)

137 Where does one acquire shells for a 88mm flak gun..asking for a friend.
Posted by: Helofixer at July 15, 2018 07:58 PM (15ALc)


I called Mrs Cop into my den, telling her that there was a video of the next firearm I wanted. She watched and then asked, "How much do one of those cost?"

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 15, 2018 08:03 PM (5Yee7)

138 136
Where does one acquire shells for a 88mm flak gun..asking for a friend.



The Lee dies for it are expensive.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 08:02 PM (yQpMk)

And the throw on the press is Yuuuge.

Posted by: JimK at July 15, 2018 08:04 PM (uAlm4)

139 Left Coast Dawg
That, among a bunch of other reasons sped up my departure from Seattle. One does learn to be careful when around new people.
Since I also smoke cigars that caused a few pearls to be clutched. Once, when hiking with Karen and some friends someone asked her how she could stand having me smoke, "Those nasty things", Karen just smiled and said, " Oh, I like it that he has a vice".
I miss her every damn day.

Posted by: Winston at July 15, 2018 08:04 PM (wgCUV)

140 In college in NYC and living on 23rd Street in a tiny apartment. My next door neighbor was a black guy with the biggest collection of knives from around the world. Nicest guy you would want to know. Some were big enough for a beheading festival.

Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 08:04 PM (qIn6A)

141 Where does one acquire shells for a 88mm flak gun..asking for a friend.

Posted by: Helofixer
--

I have a few casings for a 5"/54 caliber Mark 45 deck gun. With a big enough hammer we could mash them down from 127 mm to 88 mm and reload them, maybe.

Hold my beer.

Posted by: tonypete at July 15, 2018 08:05 PM (9rIkM)

142 Went trap shooting for the first time in 3 years. Used to be 23/24 out of 25 every time. Could only manage 17 out of 25 at best. Tired old eyes and joints. Maybe time to let most of my guns go? I know I'm never going hunting again and I if the "civil war is coming" I'm not going to survive long in the woods.

Posted by: oldgeezer at July 15, 2018 08:06 PM (4pPcl)

143 Just back from shooting the custom Badger O/700 .308.SMK BPHP. Killing it at 91 meters.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 15, 2018 08:06 PM (8qmdj)

144 The video of those folks firing their refurbished 88 has me sinning badly (coveting).

Man, would that be fun taking that monster to the range.

Damn.

Thank you, Pope Alex at 17.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 15, 2018 08:08 PM (GckyN)

145 Anybody here own a Saiga shotgun? Are you able to cycle 2-3/4" shells?
Posted by: Alpine Crotch at July 15, 2018 07:57 PM


What are you shooting? Buck and slugs generally use the '2' gas setting. If you're shooting something lighter, you probably need the '1' setting.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2018 08:10 PM (DMUuz)

146 Fortunately the Hottie doesn't have her finger on the trigger so perhaps whomever took that photo warned her before she was able to injure herself.


"Hot, Stupid and Blind In One Eye is no way to go through life, dear."

-Zombie Dean Wormer (paraphrasing)

Posted by: Sharkman at July 15, 2018 08:11 PM (GckyN)

147 30
This week was Star Super B week. Nice 1911 knock off in 9mm made by the
now defunct but fondly remembered Star Bonifacio Echeverria, S.A.

-------------------

I wish one of the many 1911 clonemakers would take a look at the Super B and make a 1911 with all of those improvements. Hi-Power lockup, no grip safety, loaded chamber indicator, slick take-down latch... Those hombres got it right.

Mine's a jam-a-matic, though (with FMJ). Need to replace the recoil spring and try some 147-grainers with it.

There's a 9mm Largo version whispering to me at the local LGS. $300. Seems silly to have two of the same gun, but it's a different caliber, so... maybe.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at July 15, 2018 08:12 PM (1ouh3)

148 German 88 flak gun. I want one. And a German Panther tank. I want that too. Oh, and all the guns on that table. That's all I want. Oh, and that lamp. That's all. I'm done now.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:13 PM (gEvQ8)

149 Seems silly to have two of the same gun

When one is in your right hand, and the other is in your left, they are not the same gun.

Posted by: Obi Juan Sonobi at July 15, 2018 08:13 PM (DMUuz)

150 How do NFA trusts work if you want to add people who live in other states? If I live in LA and start a trust can I include a family member in MS?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at July 15, 2018 08:14 PM (rnXGe)

151 I got scope eye once from my brothers .308 rifle. Didn't hold it like in the picture. But did learn never to keep a scope that close to my face ever again.

Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 08:14 PM (YdakM)

152 We must have a few artillerymenPersons of Artillery around, yeah? What do they use for a primer in a Flak 36 shell? What do they use for modern guns?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:14 PM (y87Qq)

153 Does anyone here have one of these?

Leroy Brown does. He's bad, bad.

Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2018 08:16 PM (sdi6R)

154 Ain't no woman like the one-eyed gott.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2018 08:16 PM (IqV8l)

155 In NY before the ban, GOV. Homo said there were about 1 million rifles that would be banned.

Less than 50k were registered.

Homo said the rest were sold out of state

*makes OK sign with hand*

What do you call it when they pass a law that nobody obeys?

Resist California

Posted by: Marcus T at July 15, 2018 08:17 PM (8qmdj)

156 Persons of Artillery

AKA, Cannon cockers.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:17 PM (gEvQ8)

157 145 - I have a Saiga in 20ga and 2.75 shells work fine on setting #2. #1 is for slugs and "heavy" buckshot.

Posted by: oldgeezer at July 15, 2018 08:18 PM (4pPcl)

158 >>>I would like to resurrect King George III, because having a seafaring colonial empire is preferable to to a country that is afraid of Belgium plutocrats and steak knives.

Having England back again would be preferable to Pakistan 2.0.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 15, 2018 08:18 PM (/qEW2)

159 I had one of those Colt pocket pistols in 380ACP. Gave sixty yankee dollars for it when I was sixteen. Gave a guy three twenties at a pawnshop, walked out with my pistol and a bill of sale.. This was almost 54 years ago and been carrying ever since, just not that one. Sadly. Snif.

Posted by: Eromero at July 15, 2018 08:18 PM (zLDYs)

160 I got scope eye once from my brothers .308 rifle. Didn't hold it like in the picture. But did learn never to keep a scope that close to my face ever again.
Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 08:14 PM (YdakM)


I got pinged in my stupid peanut head by peering under the scope on a G3 to use the drum sights. A co-worker who shoots and was there that day mentioned to another that "the rifle came back and hit hogmartin in the head" and the guy (not a shooter) absolutely couldn't grasp the concept of hurting your dumb self at the range and not actually being shot, even after we diagrammed it on a whiteboard and did a reenactment.

Anyway, watch out for those roller-delayed blowback battle rifles, they don't mess around.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:20 PM (y87Qq)

161 That 1903 Colt is a thing of beauty.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at July 15, 2018 08:20 PM (1ouh3)

162 AKA, Cannon cockers.
Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:17 PM (gEvQ


I've heard that, but I didn't want to assume that's how they identify. It's not like I'm familiar enough with any to get to use Their Word.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:22 PM (y87Qq)

163 25 Lets see, when that gal fires her gun the bullet goes this way that the gun goes that way....
Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 07:08 PM (qIn6A)


Kinda looks like a break-barrel air rifle

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 15, 2018 08:23 PM (di1hb)

164 How to become a pirate.

Very funny. I just now got the joke.

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 08:24 PM (8kkL4)

165 Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:22 PM (y87Qq)

My BIL. He called them that.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:25 PM (gEvQ8)

166 even after we diagrammed it on a whiteboard and did a reenactment. ----


The whiteboard part of your comment is funny as hell. My job is technical and I know I annoy people with detail. That sounds exactly like something I would do. LOL

Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 08:26 PM (YdakM)

167 My BIL. He called them that.
Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:25 PM (gEvQ


I'll remember that. I just don't want to be That Guy who's an outsider using a familiar term.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:29 PM (y87Qq)

168 What are you shooting? Buck and slugs generally use the '2' gas setting. If you're shooting something lighter, you probably need the '1' setting.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2018 08:10 PM (DMUuz)

I'm trying Walmart special birdshot crapola. I'm using an "Autoplug" but its all the way closed and still failure to eject

Posted by: Alpine Crotch at July 15, 2018 08:29 PM (6Na2M)

169 The whiteboard part of your comment is funny as hell. My job is technical and I know I annoy people with detail. That sounds exactly like something I would do. LOL
Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 08:26 PM (YdakM)

------------

My job was, too. The saying that I think fits here is:

"Don't ask him what time it is unless you want to hear about how to build a clock!".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 08:30 PM (oXwsm)

170 Nothing like my 105mm gun on the M60 to wipe out most targets, assuming you sighted it correctly.

Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 08:30 PM (qIn6A)

171 >>>Ain't no woman like the one-eyed gott.

Hah. I always misheard the Jay-Z/Foxy Brown song as "one-eyed guy".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 15, 2018 08:30 PM (/qEW2)

172 I have a question. As some of you know, I just purchased my first firearm in 36 years. A Ruger 10/22. I did buy an extra BX-1 10 round magazine, I wanted a couple of more but that's all the gun seller had in stock. I got to thinking that tomorrow when I go to the range, I'm going to be spending an awful lot of time reloading. He showed me a 25 round magazine, BX-25 (again only one in stock) that I didn't get. I went to the Ruger website today to look it up and there were wildly different reviews, with a large number saying that they sucked, jamming after only 3 or 4 rounds.
Does the Horde have any experience or knowledge of said magazine, or a really good alternative?Thanks!

Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:31 PM (gEvQ8)

173 The Military Air Museum in Virginia Beach has a working Flak 88 they fire off a few times a year on the weekends.

(They use blanks otherwise the weekend air shows would get way to exciting)

Many retired combat pilots give the tours and have interesting stories to tell.

(Wont tell the story of how they got at working 88 in case you want to hear it from the tour guild)

Posted by: Big V at July 15, 2018 08:31 PM (ZvLtE)

174 There's a 9mm Largo version whispering to me at the local LGS. $300. Seems silly to have two of the same gun, but it's a different caliber, so... maybe.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at July 15, 2018 08:12 PM (1ouh3)

Buy it. Give it a good home. Shoot it.

I always regret the ones I didn't buy and at that price you can always re-sell it down the road for what you paid for it if not more.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2018 08:31 PM (EoRCO)

175 >>> 90 86 http://steyrarms.com/firearms/sporting-rifles/steyr-aug-a3-m1.html


Those always look like you should be wearing a space suit or mech armor to be carrying one.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 15, 2018 07:31 PM (yQpMk)

---

I know...

*sigh*
Posted by: SMH at July 15, 2018 07:34 PM (Z8+SR)


Maybe that's what will be issued to the Space Force???

Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at July 15, 2018 08:32 PM (0ReGO)

176 It's too bad the Frenchies can't use some of this energy against the traitors who are handing their country over to the cultural enrichers:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycbctode

Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2018 08:33 PM (sdi6R)

177 Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:31 PM (gEvQ


I've never had a problem with factory BX-25s. I've never had anything but trouble from the aftermarket/non-Ruger extended mags, e.g. Butler Creek brand.

Posted by: Hollywood at July 15, 2018 08:33 PM (yzxic)

178 Pretty sure there's a cottage industry of pretty girls getting photographed holding guns wrongly.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujuah at July 15, 2018 08:34 PM (oAY8z)

179 The whiteboard part of your comment is funny as hell. My job is technical and I know I annoy people with detail. That sounds exactly like something I would do. LOL
Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 08:26 PM (YdakM)


You've probably worked with this guy, or one of his myriad engineering clones then. Couldn't understand how I could have been hurt but not actually shot, but the fact that I was standing right there in front of him didn't conflict, in his mind with "was shot in the head with a full-power rifle cartridge from a weapon that he was holding".

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:34 PM (y87Qq)

180 Does the Horde have any experience or knowledge of said magazine, or a really good alternative?Thanks!
Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:31 PM (gEvQ
----------------------------------------------------
The Ruger BX-25 mags have worked fine for me. There are a lot of off-brand mags for the 10-22, which I avoid. Spend the extra money and stick with the Ruger manufactured ones.

Posted by: Guzalot at July 15, 2018 08:35 PM (schB/)

181 A lurker who wants to remain really, really, really anonymous submitted this photo to the Weekend Gun Thread with strict instructions
-----


as far back as I can tell, that's about 28 guns.
A texas starter set..

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 15, 2018 08:35 PM (z79tQ)

182 re the photo -

Fuckin' Isaac Newton, taking the fun out of life for everyone.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 15, 2018 08:35 PM (6FqZa)

183 "Don't ask him what time it is unless you want to hear about how to build a clock!".
Posted by: Calm Mentor


I got pretty close to an eye roll from a young female engineer in my lab the other day. When I corrected her on direct and indirect lighting for microscope lenses. My pet peeves are weird.

Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 08:35 PM (YdakM)

184 AKA, Cannon cockers.
Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:17 PM (gEvQ

I've heard that, but I didn't want to assume that's how they identify. It's not like I'm familiar enough with any to get to use Their Word.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:22 PM (y87Qq)


Back when I was Field Artillery, back in the 1980s, we used the term "Canon cockers" to describe ourselves. No negative connotations at that time. Now call us "Red Legs" and them's fightin' words.*

* Due to red stripes on the trousers back in the old days and the modern Dress Blues.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 15, 2018 08:36 PM (5Yee7)

185 Back in its heyday, did the Sports Illustrated swim suit issues ever show a girl with a gun...Probably not those icky things.

Posted by: Colin at July 15, 2018 08:36 PM (qIn6A)

186 Annnd, my dumbass forgot to shed the sock.

Posted by: Bert G at July 15, 2018 08:37 PM (yzxic)

187 Didn't read all the comments, but if retropox is around, he might have of them there Colts. Though I forget if that item is within the historical range he collects. He seems to have many canoes' worth of .32s.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 08:37 PM (QDnY+)

188 172 Old Blue, I have three bx25 mags, and all three work just fine. Like anything nowadays, it took about two mags each for break in. I also have a few Butler Creek 25 round mags, and they function great. These have the advantage of being "jungle clip" capable, with a stud and recess allowing two mags to be clipped together.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at July 15, 2018 08:38 PM (xzqr4)

189 Now call us "Red Legs" and them's fightin' words.*



* Due to red stripes on the trousers back in the old days and the modern Dress Blues.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 15, 2018 08:36 PM (5Yee7)


What about "Gun Bunnies"?

Posted by: Bert G at July 15, 2018 08:38 PM (yzxic)

190 I very politely corrected some dumbass at Insty's that an 88 was an AA gun and not a 'howitzer', and some other dumbass "corrected" me with 'cannon' including a link to it being used in an antitank role and as a position gun against hard targets like buildings even though I had already talked to someone else about its antitank use and how the Allied bombing campaign meant fewer 88s shooting up Soviet and Allied tanks. So I linked the military Wiki about it being a Flak gun and pointed out I and the other commenter had already discussed its ground use. No reply to that.

Insty's has plenty of intelligent commenters but alot more dumbasses than at the HQ.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 15, 2018 08:39 PM (Evws/)

191 Kinda looks like a break-barrel air rifle
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf
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Same thing I thought. Looks like a break-barrel something or other. Assuming a spring piston, then the 'recoil' will be away from her eye.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2018 08:40 PM (nhAAH)

192 Mum tells me that 'red legs' is what the locals called the leftover white people in Barbados 'under the hill' - the sandstone part of the island which the planters didn't want.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 15, 2018 08:40 PM (6FqZa)

193 I'm trying Walmart special birdshot crapola. I'm using an "Autoplug" but its all the way closed and still failure to eject
Posted by: Alpine Crotch at July 15, 2018 08:29 PM


First of all, I brainfarted; you want to use the lowest setting that works, and generally buck/slugs will work at '1'. Lighter stuff generally needs '2'. Low brass shells can be problematic.

Saigas are very 'individualistic'.

A good place to check out is http://forum.saiga-12.com

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2018 08:40 PM (DMUuz)

194 RBC, how's your hearing? BIL can't hear for shit. Just an absolutely phenomenal Texas born and bred BIL, but he can't hear for shit.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:41 PM (gEvQ8)

195 i got one of those new mirrors that point out all my flaws. it ran out of disc space.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 15, 2018 08:42 PM (6FqZa)

196 well, *that* was special...

went off to run a quick, simple errand, only to get chased around the neighborhood by two assholes in a new Chevy pickup.

my crime, apparently, was not getting out of the way when they took their half out of the middle of the parking lot lane. we didn't actually bump, but it seemed to enrage their tender sensibilities.

they broke off pursuit at my last turn, which is just as well for them, since Resident 3vil met me in the front yard 15 seconds later with her Glock handy.


Posted by: redc1c4 at July 15, 2018 08:42 PM (v7EWn)

197 195
i got one of those new mirrors that point out all my flaws. it ran out of disc space.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 15, 2018 08:42 PM (6FqZa)
Prolly a chinese knockoff. Take it back for a refund.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:43 PM (gEvQ8)

198 Holy cow redc

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at July 15, 2018 08:44 PM (h7bvM)

199 i got one of those new mirrors that point out all my flaws. it ran out of disc space.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 15, 2018 08:42 PM (6FqZa)


Well it could have been worse. You could have got a talking one.

Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 08:44 PM (YdakM)

200 >>>>A lurker who wants to remain really, really, really anonymous submitted
this photo to the Weekend Gun Thread with strict instructions. Don't
mention me or I will have to use these on you Mis. Hum.


I know who it is.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 08:44 PM (txw6d)

201 redc1c4, you got some crazies in your 'hood, it sounds.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 15, 2018 08:45 PM (6FqZa)

202 Now call us "Red Legs" and them's fightin' words.*

* Due to red stripes on the trousers back in the old days and the modern Dress Blues.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 15, 2018 08:36 PM (5Yee7)

What about "Gun Bunnies"?
Posted by: Bert G at July 15, 2018 08:38 PM (yzxic)


See? I've heard both of these, and "cannon-cockers" and something like "lanyard pullers" or whatever. I don't know which are OK and which aren't.

OTOH, a civilian once stressed to me that he respectfully pronounced it subMARiner instead of submaREENer because he'd been reliably informed that the latter was an open invitation to a bloody fistfight, which was the first time I'd ever heard that I was supposed to give a shit. I'd heard it both ways, from people wearing actual dolphin pins, while underwater.

*shrug*

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:45 PM (y87Qq)

203 (196) New rev 4's go straight to the cloud. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 08:45 PM (RuIsu)

204 And so quick scan reveals I *somewhat* misunderestimated retropox (who said he has *13* of the Colts pictured ..... wow).


Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 08:46 PM (QDnY+)

205 Husband and I applied for CCW permits this week. Should have them in a month. Now he wants to go gun shopping. I am trying to convince him to find a range where we can test some out. He hasn't seen the wisdom of that yet. Anything good that I can steer him towards? We need old people's guns.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2018 08:47 PM (Lqy/e)

206 I think I may have to pull for the Montgomery Biscuits minor league team now. They're having a "Millennial Night" promotion:


https://tinyurl.com/y9rndt95

Posted by: Bert G at July 15, 2018 08:48 PM (yzxic)

207 subMARiner instead of submaREENer
Screw that, they're bubble heads. I was speaking with a gentleman at the bowling tournament in Syracuse. He told me that he retired E-7 Torpedoman. I said, so you're a bubble head and he smiled and said Yup!

Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:48 PM (gEvQ8)

208 Last night when that 88 link was first posted, I wondered what they do for ammo. Suppose one could email the group and ask.


Speaking of leftover ammo, I wonder what if anything is being/has been done with what I believe were thousands of rounds for the Iowa-class battleship main batteries (16 inch) that remained when the ships were finally and for the last time taken out of service.


Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 08:49 PM (QDnY+)

209 What about "Gun Bunnies"?
Posted by: Bert G at July 15, 2018 08:38 PM (yzxic)


I was in a Fire Support Team (abbreviated as "FIST") and worked closely with the infantry. We were basically smart grunts and carried radios and blew $h!t up by dropping artillery projectiles on said $h!t.

We called ourselves "Fist F*ckers" and the gun crews "Gun
Bunnies." Since bunnies and machismo don't exactly coincide, I imagine the gun crews weren't particularly thrilled by that term.

Field Artillery = "Cannon Cockers" as a generic non-insulting nickname.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 15, 2018 08:50 PM (5Yee7)

210 Screw that, they're bubble heads. I was speaking with a gentleman at the bowling tournament in Syracuse. He told me that he retired E-7 Torpedoman. I said, so you're a bubble head and he smiled and said Yup!
Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:48 PM (gEvQ


Pretty much. We DGAF.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:50 PM (y87Qq)

211 Wow! Thas a lot 'o gun content, Mis Hum. Tankee U.

The downloadable gun stuff seems to me to be a 1A victory, not a 2A. Until there is an affordable metal sintering 3D device, printed plastic guns will remain one shot wonders imho.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 15, 2018 08:50 PM (0ogQG)

212 LOL Bert G @ the millennial twitter butthurt.

*lifts a White Tears mug in salute*

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 15, 2018 08:50 PM (6FqZa)

213 as far back as I can tell, that's about 28 guns.

A texas starter set..

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 15, 2018 08:35 PM (z79tQ)
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that looks like a pretty good count.

but it could also be a small sample, or selection, if someone just wanted to give an intro to firearms to some folks...

and it's about all anyone could fit into a regular size canoe.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 15, 2018 08:51 PM (v7EWn)

214 I am trying to convince him to find a range where we can test some out. He hasn't seen the wisdom of that yet. Anything good that I can steer him towards? We need old people's guns.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2018 08:47 PM (Lqy/e)


Could you tell him that you asked us for some recommendations and that every last one of us advised him to go try a few at a range?

Because everyone could name some of their favorites and tell you why we like them, but really...

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:52 PM (y87Qq)

215 Who is it, Miley?

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 08:53 PM (8kkL4)

216 Anything good that I can steer him towards? We need old people's guns.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2018 08:47 PM (Lqy/e)


When I played Pool I tried many cues till I found the one that worked best for me. If he has a hobby like that the comparison may get him to a range that lets you rent/try different guns.

Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 08:53 PM (YdakM)

217 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 15, 2018 08:50 PM (5Yee7)


Ahh, a FISTer. I'm familiar with them as well. My current boss regularly wears red socks to work. And mysteriously, every wall clock on our floor one day had crossed cannon decals applied to them.

Posted by: Bert G at July 15, 2018 08:53 PM (yzxic)

218 We need old people's guns.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2018 08:47 PM (Lqy/e)


I mean, I guess you could just go steal guns from old people too. But really, the range thing is your best bet.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:53 PM (y87Qq)

219 Notsothoreau, first priority is to absolutely insist on your approach of shoot-before-buy. That's the key.


Then, at least at first you'll be limited to whatever the range rents (some have a lot of handguns, some don't).


Beyond that, plenty here will have better ideas (I don't carry and don't focus on carry-suitable hardware). Would only say do not over look revolvers, and do not ignore that you might want your carry guns to be shootable and fun enough that you'll both practice and become proficient with them.


Some of the lightweight revolvers and even semi-autos (as discussed by others above) are "for carrying/having, not shooting" - meaning they're unpleasant enough to shoot that it's unlikely you'll practice much.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 08:53 PM (QDnY+)

220 Yep that's what I tell him. You don't want to buy a gun based on looks.

By the way, WA state is open carry.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2018 08:53 PM (Lqy/e)

221 Because everyone could name some of their favorites and tell you why we like them, but really...
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:52 PM (y87Qq)

Well all the Glock fags would but they'd be wrong of course.

Because everybody knows Sig>Glock. Self evident really.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 08:55 PM (g3egi)

222 By the way, WA state is open carry.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2018 08:53 PM (Lqy/e)


Concealment not necessarily an issue then? Have you considered a vintage Flak 36 in 88×571mm R?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:56 PM (y87Qq)

223 I want a revolver myself. That's what I'm familiar with. Used to have a nice .32 that was sold. I had a CCW at one point because of two road rage incidents. Funny, never had any problems after I started carrying.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2018 08:56 PM (Lqy/e)

224 RBC, how's your hearing? BIL can't hear for shit. Just an absolutely phenomenal Texas born and bred BIL, but he can't hear for shit.
Posted by: Old Blue at July 15, 2018 08:41 PM (gEvQ


High frequency is fvkced. Mrs Cop will get pissed and think I'm ignoring her when I actually didn't hear a word she said.

If she is facing away from me, but we're somewhere with a lot of ambient noise, I usually hear her voice but can't make out the words. I'll have her turn and face me and then I can understand.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 15, 2018 08:56 PM (5Yee7)

225 We know that girl in the picture is fine because mansplaining suggests the closest male in proximity to the female would explain how guns go bang and Newton's third law of physics.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 08:57 PM (pUDQf)

226 We need old people's guns.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2018 08:47 PM (Lqy/e)


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I have a Shield 9mm that I adore. I saw in a recent magazine that they're making a .380 for older hands that might have trouble racking the slide of the 9mm and bigger pistols. I thought that was a very good market to target.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 08:57 PM (YPqbH)

227 Because everybody knows Sig>Glock. Self evident really.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 08:55 PM (g3egi)


Steel: so good, they make steel out of it.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:57 PM (y87Qq)

228 Yep that's what I tell him. You don't want to buy a gun based on looks.
By the way, WA state is open carry.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2018 08:53 PM (Lqy/e)

For what it's worth, I always recommend the Bersa Thunder in .380 for a nice, affordable, pleasant to shoot pistol which is also very affordable, accurate and easy to break down and clean/maintain.

Now cue Buffalo Springfield.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2018 08:57 PM (EoRCO)

229
Steel: so good, they make steel out of it.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:57 PM (y87Qq


But, but..muh plastic!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 08:59 PM (pUDQf)

230 I have a Shield 9mm that I adore. I saw in a recent magazine that they're making a .380 for older hands that might have trouble racking the slide of the 9mm and bigger pistols. I thought that was a very good market to target.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 08:57 PM (YPqbH)


The VP9 and VP9sk have little bunny ears on the back of the rear slide serrations for just this purpose. It's one of those things that, once you use it, you wonder why every gun doesn't have them.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:59 PM (y87Qq)

231 I can't recommend an old 9 shot .22 revolver enough. I suspect you can find them all day long for $100 at gun shows and pawn shops, and they're a lot of fun and very easy to shoot.

Also great to learn on.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:00 PM (YPqbH)

232 Because everybody knows Sig>Glock. Self evident really.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 08:55 PM (g3egi)


Don't own a Sig or a Glock I would recommend not entering my house uninvited though.

Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 09:00 PM (YdakM)

233 206 I think I may have to pull for the Montgomery Biscuits minor league team now. They're having a "Millennial Night" promotion:


https://tinyurl.com/y9rndt95
Posted by: Bert G at July 15, 2018 08:48 PM (yzxic)


I read the link. That is funny as hell.

Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2018 09:00 PM (sdi6R)

234 I suspect we will wait to buy until after the house sells. Should be lots of places with guns in TN. I'm just glad we are at this point. When we first met, he didn't want anything to do with guns. His dad was a shooting instructor in the Army when he was growing up.

To me, there's not much fun in having a gun if you don't go out and shoot it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2018 09:00 PM (Lqy/e)

235 and it's about all anyone could fit into a regular size canoe.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 15, 2018 08:51 PM (v7EWn)

Oh you're right about that.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 15, 2018 09:01 PM (z79tQ)

236 An, notsothoreau, so you're not a gun newbie. In that case follow your own preferences, period. There is no best caliber or platform - aside from those *you* are most comfortable with and can most reliably put on target under realistic conditions. And things like hand strength/pain issues definitely play a part if semi-autos are in the picture.


If I had to/was able to/wanted to carry, tomorrow, I have two revolvers and one semi I'd happily use (Colt Magnum Carry, S and W Model 60, CZ-83 .380).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:01 PM (QDnY+)

237 I love shooting, it's just that I hate cleaning guns more. So I don't shoot much anymore. I know, I know...perishable skill. But I'll practice on the first zombie.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:03 PM (pUDQf)

238 But, but..muh plastic!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 08:59 PM (pUDQf)


Hey man, mine's a PPS M2 9mm. It's made of Duplo blocks. Haters gonna hate, no shame in my game, only God can judge me &c &c.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:03 PM (y87Qq)

239 Notsothoreau
Where are you in WA?
Open carry will get you a lot of attention in the cities not so much east of the Crest.

Posted by: Winston at July 15, 2018 09:03 PM (wgCUV)

240 Because everybody knows Sig>Glock. Self evident really.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 08:55 PM (g3egi)

Two word rebuttal.

Sig Mosquito.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 15, 2018 09:04 PM (z79tQ)

241 Aydin Paladin talks about David Hogg

https://youtu.be/4OO4hgQjoEk

Am I on topic?
*looks to judges panel*
I'm on topic!

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 15, 2018 09:05 PM (rnAwa)

242 See? I've heard both ["Red Legs" and "Gun Bunnies"], and "cannon-cockers" and something like "lanyard pullers" or whatever. I don't know which are OK and which aren't.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 08:45 PM (y87Qq)


Never heard the term "Lanyard Puller" before, but it strikes me as vaguely insulting (i.e., a euphemism for masturbation). Go with "Cannon Cocker" if you don't want to get a negative reaction.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 15, 2018 09:05 PM (5Yee7)

243 (22 I tried, but as it turns out, nowadays Clancy can't even sing.

Posted by: ro-man at July 15, 2018 09:05 PM (RuIsu)

244 Who is it, Miley?

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 08:53 PM (8kkL4)

I'll never tell!

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 09:06 PM (txw6d)

245 Of all I've had any experience with, my Glocks are probably the most don't-give-a-sh*t regarding cleaning after every shooting event. They're not my favorite guns, but I'd be hard pressed not to grab one if I needed to go out in the woods for weeks at a time when the SHTF.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:06 PM (YPqbH)

246 I love shooting, it's just that I hate cleaning guns more. So I don't shoot much anymore. I know, I know...perishable skill. But I'll practice on the first zombie.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:03 PM (pUDQf)


I can appreciate this, but I can't relate to it.

I like cooking, and I hate doing dishes. But field stripping a weapon after a range trip and cleaning/lubing it and putting it back together and function-testing it is just as enjoyable as shooting it. Sometimes more so; it's very relaxing.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:07 PM (y87Qq)

247 Go with "Cannon Cocker" if you don't want to get a negative reaction.

Ooo!

Posted by: Shep! at July 15, 2018 09:07 PM (6FqZa)

248 I'll never tell!
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 09:06 PM (txw6d)

Give us a hint.

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:07 PM (8kkL4)

249 High frequency is fvkced. ----


All the things I did as a youth made me High frequency deaf. Shooting, motocross bike, chain saws, open header V8s and spending way too much money for a car stereo.

Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 09:08 PM (YdakM)

250 While I was in, no one called us 13Bs anything but cannon cockers except for the older vets who called us gun bunnies. Red Legs never caught on except for the little tavern by that name on Ft. Sill that served the crappiest draft beer ever created.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois BOOM! at July 15, 2018 09:08 PM (V8bv6)

251 Got to shoot the new Henry Large Loop Lever .357 Mag.

Smooth. Very smooth. Happy with it.

Posted by: rickb223 Super Elite at July 15, 2018 09:08 PM (Vgz5H)

252 Dillinger was carrying one of those dandy .380 Colt's in his pocket when he was killed. S/N's filed off. FBI had on display and welded the slide to the frame and then lost it somewhere. Since been found I believe in a box.

Posted by: DB Cooper at July 15, 2018 09:08 PM (LU8fy)

253
Hey man, mine's a PPS M2 9mm. It's made of Duplo blocks. Haters gonna hate, no shame in my game, only God can judge me &c &c.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:03 PM (y87Qq


Lol. That Walther is a nice little CC! I just bought my first S&W shield 9mm. My carry was always a little bigger barrel but I do like these new CC designs so I joined the movement.

I've had glocks and non-glocks. I don't get caught up in the great glock debate. I just think some of the arguments are funny and some glock owners are super sensitive. Makes me chuckle.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:09 PM (pUDQf)

254 189 Now call us "Red Legs" and them's fightin' words.*



* Due to red stripes on the trousers back in the old days and the modern Dress Blues.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 15, 2018 08:36 PM (5Yee7)

What about "Gun Bunnies"?
Posted by: Bert G at July 15, 2018 08:38 PM (yzxic)


Only after they get fitted for hearing aids.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 15, 2018 09:09 PM (di1hb)

255 Of all I've had any experience with, my Glocks are probably the most don't-give-a-sh*t regarding cleaning after every shooting event. They're not my favorite guns, but I'd be hard pressed not to grab one if I needed to go out in the woods for weeks at a time when the SHTF.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:06 PM (YPqbH)

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My Springfields are like that.....or were, pre divorce. Not flaming Glocks, great guns. Springfields just fit better in my hand.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 09:09 PM (oXwsm)

256 Ahh, a FISTer. I'm familiar with them as well. My current boss regularly wears red socks to work. And mysteriously, every wall clock on our floor one day had crossed cannon decals applied to them.
Posted by: Bert G at July 15, 2018 08:53 PM (yzxic)

I've got a poster that reads, "Field Artillery lends dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl," and features an artilleryman sipping champagne getting ready to shoot his cannon!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 15, 2018 09:10 PM (5Yee7)

257 I'll never tell!
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 09:06 PM (txw6d)

Give us a hint.
Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:07 PM (8kkL4)


Lol, you guys are shameless.

And no, it isn't mine (remembering what happened when I made the mistake of commenting in shibumi's big reveal thread).

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:10 PM (y87Qq)

258 AlaBAMA, if you're talking handguns, really not that much cleaning involved, neccessarily.


If you're talking handguns, using factory ammo, really really not a big deal. First, most modern guns don't want/need that much cleaning. Second, a quick wipedown, a snake through the bore and/or cylinder chambers, maybe a drop of lube (for semis) - that's really it.


Plus, gun shops these days often have cleaning services. Have never used them, but for the cleaning-averse, perfect. Once a year, at most, pay someone to do a full disassembly and cleaning.


See - I've solved your problem.


A range report is expected for next week's thread ....

Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:11 PM (QDnY+)

259 Where does HK stand in the Sig vs Glock debate? I've always figured they were sort of Sig's equal but have a different feel in the way the nicer BMWs and Mercedes compete directly but not many buyers really cross-shop.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:11 PM (YPqbH)

260 Twichy showing video of unarmed promising local rapper shot and killed by the popo in Illinois was in fact trying to pull a cw from his waistband. Oops

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 09:11 PM (g3egi)

261 I never did hear who shibumi's new flame was. Was that ever revealed?

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:12 PM (8kkL4)

262 This week was Star Super B week. Nice 1911 knock off in 9mm made by the now defunct but fondly remembered Star Bonifacio Echeverria, S.A.


>>> Movie trivia: One of these was used by Samuel L. Jackson's character in "Pulp Fiction" in the apartment scene ("Say WHAT again!").

Posted by: Gref at July 15, 2018 09:12 PM (AMIL/)

263 According to the new Seattle gun control law any Morons there that have had an unfortunate canoe accident have 24 hours to report it to the police. I'm sure you will be headed down to the station tomorrow be in compliance..

Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2018 09:12 PM (NbRJx)

264 Give us a hint.

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:07 PM (8kkL4)

What happens off the blog stays off the blog.
Hint: he doesn't adhere to that rule. Yes, surprise - a 'ron, not an 'ette.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 09:12 PM (txw6d)

265 Springfield XD series grip angle is same as the 1911, I believe. After lots of handling and shooting I chose an XD9 over a Glock as my basic plastic nine. Both excellent guns, just a question of "fit", as Calm Mentor noted.


Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:13 PM (QDnY+)

266
See - I've solved your problem.


A range report is expected for next week's thread ....
Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:11 PM (QDnY


My problem is it's both type and quantity. I had (canoe accident...what are the odds) a large quantity of rifles and handguns and when I go shoot, I wanna shoot them all..so my cleaning duties were brutal upon return home. After snaking 4 rifles and two handguns...

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:13 PM (pUDQf)

267 205 Just sit down and watch John Wick with him a few times, that's all you need to do.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at July 15, 2018 09:14 PM (tGjfm)

268
My Springfields are like that.....or were, pre
divorce. Not flaming Glocks, great guns. Springfields just fit better in
my hand.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 09:09 PM (oXwsm)

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My one Springfield experience is their cheap 1911 (combat?). After getting a few things buffed down and buttoned up it became a really great little pistol. Common 1911 stuff, but I still never gained complete trust in it after that. If something doesn't go bang in my Glocks (and Sigs, and personal favorite brand - Rugers) then I know it's the ammo. If the Springfield acts funny I always figure it's the gun first. Which is a shame, because it really is a great gun. I just can't trust it like I'd like to.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:14 PM (YPqbH)

269 NotSoTheuro- The ONLY way to find what works is to handle/shoot a lot of them. That's what the majority here have done. Of course, the caveat is that some here buy a lot of them. A lot.

Posted by: Eromero at July 15, 2018 09:14 PM (zLDYs)

270 I thought shibumi was a female.

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:15 PM (8kkL4)

271 Shibumi and Bozo Conservative.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 09:16 PM (txw6d)

272 Where does HK stand in the Sig vs Glock debate? I've always figured they were sort of Sig's equal but have a different feel in the way the nicer BMWs and Mercedes compete directly but not many buyers really cross-shop.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:11 PM (YPqbH)


They're exactly like BMW and Mercedes in that people either snort their Cristal through their noses whenever they remember that there are poors who don't own HKs, and people who joke about the idiots who pay a premium for the same hole in the same paper, I think.

The VP9 feels more Sig-like than Glock-like, aside from being a striker gun. That's the only one I have, and it's the Mercedes CLA of HKs in that it's an entry-level model for uppity poors who wish they could havebe the kind of person who has a USP45/E-class but can't afford one.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:16 PM (y87Qq)

273 HK = Heckler Koch, I suppose

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:16 PM (pUDQf)

274 Movie trivia: One of these was used by Samuel L. Jackson's character in "Pulp Fiction" in the apartment scene ("Say WHAT again!").
Posted by: Gref at July 15, 2018 09:12 PM (AMIL/)

Cool! Thanks Gref......I will remember that next time I watch it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 15, 2018 09:16 PM (EoRCO)

275 @231,

I have a 9 shot H&R .22LR. It's the only gun I have. A good friend gave my late husband a nice vintage shotgun but I gave it back after my husband died. I plan to visit with him before we move and he might have a starter gun he'd sell me.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2018 09:17 PM (Lqy/e)

276 271 Shibumi and Bozo Conservative.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 09:16 PM (txw6d)

This place is just like high school.

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:17 PM (8kkL4)

277 261 I never did hear who shibumi's new flame was. Was that ever revealed?
Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:12 PM (8kkL4)


Why, yes. Yes, it was.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 15, 2018 09:17 PM (di1hb)

278 AlaBAMA, I sometimes am affected by the volume-of-cleaning thing (don't shoot everything I bring to the range), but it doesn't stop me from shooting *something*, usually several somethings.


And I've reduced my cleaning to a smarter, reduced level. Nothing I shoot needs to be completely cleaned each time for any reason. Even "corrosive" 54R milsurp ammo is no big deal (dry climate, old Mosin-Nagants with functionally fine but not pretty bores).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:18 PM (QDnY+)

279 I learned a while ago that every where you work, the people are the same. The names change, but there's always an Eddie Haskell.

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:18 PM (8kkL4)

280 Blair White, the one conservative trans person on Youtube.

Funny how there isn't a bigger market for conservative trans people opinionators. Maybe most people do what I did. Click the close tab when I saw it was a fake woman going to tell me about guns.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 15, 2018 09:19 PM (U3075)

281 Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:18 PM (8kkL4)

I go by Ed. Thanks.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 09:19 PM (g3egi)

282 265 Springfield XD series grip angle is same as the 1911, I believe. After lots of handling and shooting I chose an XD9 over a Glock as my basic plastic nine. Both excellent guns, just a question of "fit", as Calm Mentor noted.


Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:13 PM (QDnY+)


I shoot an XD well and that is probably why.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 15, 2018 09:20 PM (di1hb)

283 Yeah H and Ks are fine, I'm sure, but they don't give them away exactly. That includes the magazines. Former SEAL friend gave me all sorts of extra and odds/ends stuff one time, included unused mags ("high capacity" thus illegal in CA) and a mag pouch for some H and K model I forget (he said they played with them for a while back in the 90s, I think). Gave them to an RO buddy who's moved to AZ, he got over $100 for them.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:20 PM (QDnY+)

284 I learned a while ago that every where you work, the people are the same. The names change, but there's always an Eddie Haskell.
Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:18 PM (8kkL4)


Yep!

Also on your first day on a new job, right after orientation/onboarding, you have to fight the biggest guy there - you don't have to win, just draw blood - or else you end up being passed around like a pack of cigarettes for the rest of your tenure.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:21 PM (y87Qq)

285 The VP9 feels more Sig-like than Glock-like, aside
from being a striker gun. That's the only one I have, and it's the
Mercedes CLA of HKs in that it's an entry-level model for uppity poors
who wish they could havebe the kind of person who has a USP45/E-class but can't afford one.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:16 PM (y87Qq)


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I always thought the build quality on Sigs and HKs appeared just a little better than Glocks, but it might be my familiarity and the way Glocks are all the same except for the scale of the model. I've shot so many Glocks they don't feel that special to me, and then someone hands me a P7 or even an old $300 police Sig from the 80s and I think, "Wow, these are really well made guns."

I haven't shot any new ones from either manufacturer, but I'll probably end up getting a Sig 365 as a main carry weapon when the demand dies down a bit.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:21 PM (YPqbH)

286 @239,
SW WA, namely Vancouver. Husband was asking about transporting a gun in the pickup. Sheriff told him it was open carry, so just put it on the dash. Weird that they haven't changed that law yet.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 15, 2018 09:21 PM (Lqy/e)

287 278 AlaBAMA, I sometimes am affected by the volume-of-cleaning thing (don't shoot everything I bring to the range), but it doesn't stop me from shooting *something*, usually several somethings.


And I've reduced my cleaning to a smarter, reduced level. Nothing I shoot needs to be completely cleaned each time for any reason. Even "corrosive" 54R milsurp ammo is no big deal (dry climate, old Mosin-Nagants with functionally fine but not pretty bores).
Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:18 PM (QDnY

I know this. I really don't have a good excuse besides being lazy. And OC about clean guns.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:22 PM (pUDQf)

288 My XD9 has to be above 20K rounds, only ever been field-stripped/cleaned (I cleaned out under the loaded-chamber indicator myself a while back, only involved removing one pin). Probably fine, would go another 20K without an issue, but there's a guy locally (I'm told) who does total disassembly and thorough cleaning for $35, so I'm thinking of having him clean it.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:23 PM (QDnY+)

289 Oh hey, Moron Robbie, got a few more pics of the MT 07 between rain showers today, email in nick if you want the link to the gallery.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:24 PM (y87Qq)

290 but there's a guy locally (I'm told) who does total
disassembly and thorough cleaning for $35, so I'm thinking of having him
clean it.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:23 PM (QDnY+)


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That seems very reasonable if there is any concern about getting it back together easily and/or properly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:25 PM (YPqbH)

291 'BAMA, funny, I have the same titanic struggle between laziness and OCD about clean guns - it's just that I've let the laziness side prevail a bit more ..... and so far, so good.


Since I shoot lead reloads in the 1911, it gets totally disassembled and cleaned every 1,000 rounds or so, since the lube on lead bullets gunks up a gun like soft wood fouling a chimney. But I sort of enjoy that one - play webcasts of "Gun Talk" while I do it.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:26 PM (QDnY+)

292 Former 13E here. They were always gun bunnies to us in the FDC.

Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at July 15, 2018 09:26 PM (iJMFr)

293 i got one of those new mirrors that point out all my flaws. it ran out of disc space.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 15, 2018 08:42 PM


640K should be enough for anyone.

Posted by: Billgates of Borg at July 15, 2018 09:27 PM (DMUuz)

294

Since I shoot lead reloads in the 1911, it gets totally disassembled and cleaned every 1,000 rounds or so, since the lube on lead bullets gunks up a gun like soft wood fouling a chimney. But I sort of enjoy that one - play webcasts of "Gun Talk" while I do it.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:26 PM (QDnY+)

Cleaning gas fed AR's should be a punishment for prisoners. Just don't give them the lower.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:28 PM (pUDQf)

295 Oh hey, Moron Robbie, got a few more pics of the MT
07 between rain showers today, email in nick if you want the link to the
gallery.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:24 PM (y87Qq)


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Done.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:28 PM (YPqbH)

296 Has anybody else noticed how silent the NRA has been about the Cody Wilson Defense Distributed win vs the DOJ?

OK, they don't want to talk about 3D printed guns but what about "the government expressly acknowledges that non-automatic firearms up to .50-caliber - including modern semi-auto sporting rifles such as the popular AR-15 and similar firearms - are not inherently military" part?

I also noticed Cody taking shots at the NRA. Seems like everyone is not on the same page. Sigh...

Posted by: Trigger Warning at July 15, 2018 09:29 PM (YRXy3)

297 Done.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:28 PM (YPqbH)


Link sent.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:29 PM (y87Qq)

298 Moron Robbie, I don't think it's an Apollo mission to disassemble/reassemble an XD, but it's not as straightforward as doing a 1911. Just a few roll pins etc. for which I'd prefer to have the right tools (which I don't - some tools and general purpose punches and gunsmith screwdriver set). So the combo of having to get more tools (Cheap Bastid guiding principle) and having to focus and learn how to do it properly (Lazy Bastic guiding principle) have, so far, deterred me.


Of course I'll need a good set of starter and roll pin punches to build the ARs I'm gonna build some day, so ..... hmmm.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:29 PM (QDnY+)

299 Taps being played here at FT. Eromero. Coffee at 0500 right here, ok?

Posted by: Eromero at July 15, 2018 09:32 PM (zLDYs)

300 My XD9 has to be above 20K rounds, only ever been field-stripped/cleaned (I cleaned out under the loaded-chamber indicator myself a while back, only involved removing one pin). Probably fine, would go another 20K without an issue, but there's a guy locally (I'm told) who does total disassembly and thorough cleaning for $35, so I'm thinking of having him clean it.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:23 PM (QDnY+)

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For a full take down and cleaning, I would pay that in a heartbeat. At gun stores around here $60 and up for that.

I field stripped and oiled (CLPed) mine once a month or so myself.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 09:32 PM (oXwsm)

301 2nd world shithole? Why would we want more Commies?

Posted by: JAS at July 15, 2018 09:32 PM (3HNOQ)

302 Because everybody knows Sig>Glock. Self evident really.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 15, 2018 08:55 PM


And St. JMB > H&K > Sig > Glock

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2018 09:33 PM (DMUuz)

303 'night, Eromero. Have a nice kitten.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:33 PM (y87Qq)

304 And because I don't know how to be nice and just email back and forth I'm going to keep it in thread.

Dang that's a good rear 3/4 view.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:35 PM (YPqbH)

305 Two of my Ruger pistols are the ones that give me fits during reassembly after cleaning. My mark IV .22 and the P91DC .40.

Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 09:35 PM (YdakM)

306 I thought shibumi was a female.
Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:15 PM


Who are we to judge how someone identifies?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2018 09:36 PM (DMUuz)

307 I wonder what concealed Trump carries.

Posted by: davidt at July 15, 2018 09:36 PM (SV/HG)

308
I can't keep a mirror. Damn things break every time I try to use one.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 15, 2018 09:36 PM (8O3HH)

309 My newest toy before the canoe accident was the new Beretta M9A3. The one that shoulda won the government contract. Very nice shooting gun, all the stuff is on it I would have to aftermarket.

Always been a S&W and Beretta guy. Seemed a good quality for price point. Some of these guns today are just ridiculous prices based on popularity, which ticks me off. You can't buy a old as dirt designed 1911 unless you have 1911 dollars to spend. Lol

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:37 PM (pUDQf)

310 Dang that's a good rear 3/4 view.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:35 PM (YPqbH)


Yeah, the styling looks silly until you look at it in person. And it's amazing how good the ergonomics are for something that looks like an F-117 a kid scribbled in a notebook.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:37 PM (y87Qq)

311 I wonder what concealed Trump carries.
Posted by: davidt at July 15, 2018 09:36 PM (SV/HG)

The Button.

Posted by: Surfperch at July 15, 2018 09:37 PM (j6XEO)

312 Yeah, the Ruger .22s were the ones that came to mind when thinking about the $35. I hear they've updated them with some sort of simple takedown button or lever now, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:37 PM (YPqbH)

313 I wonder what concealed Trump carries.
Posted by: davidt at July 15, 2018 09:36 PM (SV/HG)

He's got the Secret Service. Does that count?

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:38 PM (8kkL4)

314 He's got the Secret Service. Does that count?
Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:38 PM (8kkL4)


"Yeah? You and what army?"

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:39 PM (y87Qq)

315 And it's amazing how good the ergonomics are for something that looks like an F-117 a kid scribbled in a notebook.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:37 PM (y87Qq)


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Well put. It does look almost anime-ish. In a good way. I like the style and am a big fan of minimalism. It does both really well while still managing to have a little "look at me" element, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Support My Anti-Bullying Programs Or Else at July 15, 2018 09:40 PM (YPqbH)

316 I bet plenty of Presidents probably carried or at least kept a gun in the desk. SS probably handed Trump a Sig on hits first day. Gold plated.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:41 PM (pUDQf)

317

I guess I'm part of the very narrow portion of America that believes convicted felons that have served their time and paid their debt to society still have families, homes and lives to defend, regardless of their past.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 15, 2018 09:41 PM (8hV5I)

318 'Bama, just found a Springfield 1911 (bottom of their line, the "Mil-Spec") for $630. That's what I have - bought it used for $550. And Rock Island 1911s can be had for around $400, and are generally fine, just basic (might need a tune here or there, maybe not).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:43 PM (QDnY+)

319 Police Try To Take Veteran's Guns Without A Warrant. He Didn't Let Them https://bit.ly/2uos8Tz

Iraq war veteran Leonard Cottrell Jr. says that last month New Jersey police tried to confiscate his firearms without a warrant - and he did not let them take them.

Two police officers visited his home "because his 13-year-old son had made a comment at school about the Millstone Middle School's security, and the officers wanted to confiscate Cottrell's firearms as part of an investigation," NJ.com reported.

Cottrell, who legally owns a shotgun and a handgun, is a disabled U.S. Army veteran who served multiple tours during "Operation Iraqi Freedom."


Cottrell says that his wife let the officers into their home and let them search their sons' room where they did not find any weapons but then the officers tried to take his firearms, which "he has all the correct permits to own."

"No one from the state was going to take my firearms without due process," Cottrell said, according to NJ.com.

The police's attempt to confiscate Cottrell's firearms comes after Democrat Governor Phil Murphy signed into law a bill that makes it easy for law enforcement to confiscate firearms without due process.

Posted by: Trigger Warning at July 15, 2018 09:43 PM (YRXy3)

320 311 I wonder what concealed Trump carries.
Posted by: davidt at July 15, 2018 09:36 PM (SV/HG)

The Button.
Posted by: Surfperch at July 15, 2018 09:37 PM (j6XEO)


LOL.



That, um, "trumps" everything, doesn't it?

Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2018 09:44 PM (sdi6R)

321 317

I guess I'm part of the very narrow portion of America that believes convicted felons that have served their time and paid their debt to society still have families, homes and lives to defend, regardless of their past.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 15, 2018 09:41 PM (8hV5I

I can get behind that. I'd probably want a probation period after release but after that, why not?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:44 PM (pUDQf)

322 Bitter Clinger, you're not alone. Haven't given it that much thought, but the universal ban on people with felony convictions having firearms doesn't seem right to me either. Or losing their voting rights.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 15, 2018 09:44 PM (QDnY+)

323 Okey Dokey, time for some ONT.

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:44 PM (8kkL4)

324
Look up "presidents carrying a gun". Reagan carried a snub-nosed .38 special his briefcase. The SS wasn't happy about, but if POTUS wants to carry, POTUS can carry.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 15, 2018 09:45 PM (8O3HH)

325 I guess I'm part of the very narrow portion of America that believes convicted felons that have served their time and paid their debt to society still have families, homes and lives to defend, regardless of their past.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 15, 2018 09:41 PM (8hV5I)


Did I overlook where this was discussed in the thread? 'cause FWIW I'm of the opinion that if someone is going to be be denied a constitutional right in perpetuity then that should be part of the sentence, not automatically applied to every felon as a given.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:46 PM (y87Qq)

326 Does anyone here have one of these?
Sweet.

Read a negative article about Browning.
Said he wasn't a real machinist or mechanic, he just
diddled around in his shop with a file till he got it right.

{{{-v-}}}

Posted by: Braenyard at July 15, 2018 09:46 PM (B1ik8)

327
Some First Ladies have been packing heat. Eleanor Roosevelt packed heat everywhere she went.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 15, 2018 09:46 PM (8O3HH)

328 I guess I'm part of the very narrow portion of America that believes convicted felons that have served their time and paid their debt to society still have families, homes and lives to defend, regardless of their past.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger


Think our state law says he may posses a shotgun in the home only.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 15, 2018 09:49 PM (B1ik8)

329 Speaking of armed presidents, George Washington had a pocket full of horses, fucked the shit out of bears, threw a knife into Heaven, and could kill with a stare.

Look it up.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:50 PM (y87Qq)

330 On the family thing, there's no law against his wife owning or carrying just because hubby fouled up.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 15, 2018 09:50 PM (B1ik8)

331 Some First Ladies have been packing heat. Eleanor Roosevelt packed heat everywhere she went.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear


Melania packs heat.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 15, 2018 09:51 PM (B1ik8)

332 Why did the government ever make sawed off shotguns of a certain length illegal? Snub nosed handguns remain legal but a shotgun below a certain length is illegal.

Never understood that.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:51 PM (pUDQf)

333
Eleanor Roosevelt packed heat everywhere she went.

But did she carry a gun?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2018 09:52 PM (IqV8l)

334 Melania packs heat.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 15, 2018 09:51 PM (B1ik

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I was wondering about that. Good for her.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 09:52 PM (oXwsm)

335 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 15, 2018 09:41 PM (8hV5I)

We've batted that topic around quite a bit around here, but I am still conflicted.

It's one hell of a question!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 15, 2018 09:53 PM (wYseH)

336 334 Melania packs heat.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 15, 2018 09:51 PM (B1ik

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I was wondering about that. Good for her.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 09:52 PM (oXwsm

Something tells me that's not what he meant.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:53 PM (pUDQf)

337 This place is just like high school.

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:17 PM (8kkL4)

More than you know

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 09:53 PM (txw6d)

338 Did I overlook where this was discussed in the thread? 'cause FWIW I'm of the opinion that if someone is going to be be denied a constitutional right in perpetuity then that should be part of the sentence, not automatically applied to every felon as a given.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:46 PM (y87Qq)


Kinda different but similar fed law. Misdemeanor spousal abuse is also a permanent taking of ones 2nd amendment rights. Back when the law was passed I remember lots of stories about policemen losing their careers over this law.

Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 09:53 PM (YdakM)

339 329 Speaking of armed presidents, George Washington had a pocket full of horses, fucked the shit out of bears, threw a knife into Heaven, and could kill with a stare.

Look it up.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:50 PM (y87Qq)


I bet the damn education system doesn't even teach that any more.

Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2018 09:53 PM (sdi6R)

340 Hey everybody.

I assume that gal's about to become a pirate, because she's got the rifle scope WAY to close to her actual eye, and when she fires and the recoil comes in...

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2018 09:54 PM (Nc9iH)

341 Something tells me that's not what he meant.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:53 PM (pUDQf)

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Yeah, that light bulb went on about one second after I hit "post".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 09:54 PM (oXwsm)

342 Also on your first day on a new job, right after orientation/onboarding, you have to fight the biggest guy there - you don't have to win, just draw blood - or else you end up being passed around like a pack of cigarettes for the rest of your tenure.

I worked at that company (it's an anagram of 'Sysco Foods').

They hired some wanna be tough guy as senior developer. That Friday I had to give a talk about something. At the end he tore my talk apart. Fair enough, I'm not a public speaker. But then after that humilation and we're back to our cubicles, he starts busting my balls over other random shit.

That was his thing: find a weak link, assert dominance. Toxic company, that one. (And their food is bland and lousy too.)

Posted by: Shep! at July 15, 2018 09:55 PM (6FqZa)

343 I'm guessing someone who can't have a firearm in his home is fairly set in his ways regarding crossbow vs longbow.

Posted by: Moron Robbie, Black Woman, Racist at July 15, 2018 09:55 PM (tve+u)

344 /sock.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 15, 2018 09:55 PM (6FqZa)

345 back on this topic's actual topic, what is a Bump Stock by the way?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 15, 2018 09:56 PM (6FqZa)

346 This place is just like high school.

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:17 PM (8kkL4)

More than you know
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 09:53 PM (txw6d)

I always liked to date the car guys.

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:56 PM (8kkL4)

347 Kinda different but similar fed law. Misdemeanor spousal abuse is also a permanent taking of ones 2nd amendment rights. Back when the law was passed I remember lots of stories about policemen losing their careers over this law.
Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 09:53 PM (YdakM)


Yes, I think they ask about that one on the 4473. Some of the guys on our boat couldn't stand armed watches if MAs had ever been called to their houses by their wives. Which is kind of a not-uncommon thing for junior enlisted couples, apparently.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:56 PM (y87Qq)

348 I wonder what concealed Trump carries.
Posted by: davidt



Seal Team 6.

Posted by: rickb223 Super Elite at July 15, 2018 09:56 PM (Vgz5H)

349 BREAKING: Barack Obama spotted at a Subaru dealership trying to buy a LEGACY

Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2018 09:56 PM (e8kgV)

350
What was that tale about Davy Crockett? I think it involved killing two wild animals, one a bear, with one shot by splitting the bullet in two or something.

Or maybe it was Daniel Boone.

On the Beverly Hillbillies, "ricochet shooting" was a favorite pastime. They'd light matches with a bullet after bouncing it off a rock.

They thought shooting skeet with a shotgun was just cheating. They used a rifle.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 15, 2018 09:57 PM (8O3HH)

351 Melania packs heat.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 15, 2018 09:51 PM (B1ik


Mooch is packing too.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:58 PM (y87Qq)

352 349 BREAKING: Barack Obama spotted at a Subaru dealership trying to buy a LEGACY
Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2018 09:56 PM (e8kgV


I had a chuckle. Nicely done.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:58 PM (pUDQf)

353 Plus it's a fag car.

Posted by: CMU VET at July 15, 2018 09:58 PM (C+wjz)

354 boulder, interesting you mention that about that boss.

I recently got some kinda/sorta good news about the boss I was complaining about a few weeks ago: long story short, my ONE co-worker can't stand my boss's attitude either.

Interesting though: last week when my boss started getting after *her,* this co-worker openly said "I don't know if this job is for me, maybe I shouldn't continue to work here much longer." Suddenly my boss was more cordial, let the topic go and started just talking about random social stuff with this co-worker. Hmm.

Of course, they're both women... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2018 09:58 PM (Nc9iH)

355 Mooch is packing too.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:58 PM (y87Qq)

Her trunk is full of junk.

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:58 PM (8kkL4)

356 345 back on this topic's actual topic, what is a Bump Stock by the way?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 15, 2018 09:56 PM (6FqZa


It's a low-yield thermonuclear device, IIrC.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:59 PM (pUDQf)

357 I always liked to date the car guys.
Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:56 PM (8kkL4)


The Magliozzis? I used to listen to that show every weekend. Those guys were hilarious!

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 09:59 PM (y87Qq)

358 I always liked to date the car guys.



Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 09:56 PM (8kkL4)

I like to date the smart guys who have some tricks up their sleeves. Already got the car I like.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 09:59 PM (txw6d)

359 Tricks? Such as?

Posted by: CMU VET at July 15, 2018 10:00 PM (C+wjz)

360
I like to date the smart guys who have some tricks up their sleeves. Already got the car I like.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 09:59 PM (txw6d

I felt the same way about the girls I chose. ;0

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 10:01 PM (pUDQf)

361 Tricks? Such as?

Posted by: CMU VET at July 15, 2018 10:00 PM (C+wjz)

You know, stimulating tricks.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 10:01 PM (txw6d)

362 back on this topic's actual topic, what is a Bump Stock by the way?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 15, 2018 09:56 PM


It's related to the thing that goes up.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 15, 2018 10:01 PM (DMUuz)

363 BREAKING: Barack Obama spotted at a Subaru dealership trying to buy a LEGACY
Posted by: SMOD at July 15, 2018 09:56 PM (e8kgV)


If Subaru still made the Brat he would have been able to get one of those.

Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 10:02 PM (YdakM)

364 361 Tricks? Such as?

Posted by: CMU VET at July 15, 2018 10:00 PM (C+wjz)

You know, stimulating tricks.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 10:01 PM (txw6d

Cooking dinner and painting her toenails for her.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 10:02 PM (pUDQf)

365 I felt the same way about the girls I chose. ;0

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 10:01 PM (pUDQf)

*Fistbump*

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 10:02 PM (txw6d)

366 It's not "up my sleeve."

Posted by: CMU VET at July 15, 2018 10:03 PM (C+wjz)

367 I like men who are sure of themselves and secure in their masculinity. Don't care for Pajama boys.

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 10:03 PM (8kkL4)

368 You know, stimulating tricks.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 10:01 PM (txw6d)

---------

Cunning linguistics?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 10:03 PM (oXwsm)

369 Cooking dinner and painting her toenails for her.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 10:02 PM (pUDQf)

Nah - things I can't do for myself.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 10:03 PM (txw6d)

370 back on this topic's actual topic, what is a Bump Stock by the way?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 15, 2018 09:56 PM (6FqZa)


Hook your thumb through your belt loop. Hold a rifle at your hip and hook your finger through the trigger guard. Apply forward tension on the rifle until it trips the trigger, which sends the rifle back under recoil, until it is arrested and overcome by the force of you continuing to pull it forward.

That's bump firing. A bump stock is a stock that mechanically assists that process without using the belt loop.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 10:03 PM (y87Qq)

371 Cunning linguistics?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 15, 2018 10:03 PM (oXwsm)

For starters.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 10:04 PM (txw6d)

372 317 I guess I'm part of the very narrow portion of America that believes convicted felons that have served their time and paid their debt to society still have families, homes and lives to defend, regardless of their past.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger
-----------------------

It depends on the crime. If it's a violent crime fuck 'em. Doubly so if they're a repeat offender. If it's a non-violent crime then that's a different story.

Posted by: Guzalot at July 15, 2018 10:04 PM (schB/)

373 367 I like men who are sure of themselves and secure in their masculinity. Don't care for Pajama boys.
Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 10:03 PM (8kkL4

I feel sorry for young girls today who will likely never know what masculinity was. It will be written about in the history books, right after the rise of soy boys.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 10:04 PM (pUDQf)

374 Did I overlook where this was discussed in the thread? 'cause FWIW I'm of the opinion that if someone is going to be be denied a constitutional right in perpetuity then that should be part of the sentence, not automatically applied to every felon as a given.

.....

My bad.

I was really referencing the WIRED article that has some quote about 3-D guns opening up firearms possession to people that nearly everyone agrees shouldn't have them.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 15, 2018 10:05 PM (8hV5I)

375 that's a funny photo. was she taking shooting lessons from Barack Obama?

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 15, 2018 10:05 PM (KxbBq)

376 Well, you can't beat that.

Posted by: CMU VET at July 15, 2018 10:05 PM (C+wjz)

377 My bad.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 15, 2018 10:05 PM (8hV5I)


Wasn't meant to sound snippy,* just wondering if I'd missed that discussion because it seemed to come out of nowhere.


*so naturally, it did.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 10:06 PM (y87Qq)

378 Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2018 09:58 PM (Nc9iH)

Sounds like it was effective.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2018 10:07 PM (EZebt)

379 I guess I'm part of the very narrow portion of America that believes convicted felons that have served their time and paid their debt to society still have families, homes and lives to defend, regardless of their past.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 15, 2018 09:41 PM (8hV5I

I can get behind that. I'd probably want a probation period after release but after that, why not?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 09:44 PM (pUDQf)

I am unsympathetic to the poor little felons, who are unlikely to be of much use in the defense of the Republic in any case. Right now, it's a clearly understood rule, and an additional disincentive to commit a felony. They should be remembering that before they commit the felony. Remove that penalty, and the reasoning will likely be "Well, what the heck. Five years after I get released, I can get a gun and I'm back in business!"

Posted by: HTL at July 15, 2018 10:07 PM (lshDc)

380 >>For starters.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess

Howdy, ma'am.

Posted by: Col. Angus at July 15, 2018 10:08 PM (8O3HH)

381 ont

Posted by: davidt at July 15, 2018 10:08 PM (SV/HG)

382 A Bump stock is a gun accessory that increases rate of fire. While simultaneously making hitting your target impossible.

Posted by: X-ray at July 15, 2018 10:08 PM (YdakM)

383 It depends on the crime. If it's a violent crime fuck 'em. Doubly so if they're a repeat offender. If it's a non-violent crime then that's a different story.
Posted by: Guzalot at July 15, 2018 10:04 PM (schB/)

....

I've had this discussion a lot.

When the government tells me that a pedophile can't live near a school, have a computer or put out a pumpkin at Halloween, what I feel like they are really telling me is that the pedo is not reformed and likely to commit the same crime again.

That means, to me anyway, that they should still be in prison.

Likewise, when you tell me that someone is not to be trusted with Constitutional rights, you are telling me they should still be locked up.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 15, 2018 10:08 PM (8hV5I)

384 8 09:44 PM (pUDQf)
I am unsympathetic to the poor little felons, who are unlikely to be of much use in the defense of the Republic in any case. Right now, it's a clearly understood rule, and an additional disincentive to commit a felony. They should be remembering that before they commit the felony. Remove that penalty, and the reasoning will likely be "Well, what the heck. Five years after I get released, I can get a gun and I'm back in business!"

Posted by: HTL at July 15, 2018 10:07 PM (lshDc

Not every felony involves guns nor criminal intent.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 15, 2018 10:09 PM (pUDQf)

385 NOOD ONT

Posted by: ALH at July 15, 2018 10:09 PM (8kkL4)

386 They should be remembering that before they commit the felony. Remove that penalty, and the reasoning will likely be "Well, what the heck. Five years after I get released, I can get a gun and I'm back in business!"
Posted by: HTL at July 15, 2018 10:07 PM (lshDc)


Because they wouldn't dare to get one illegally?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 15, 2018 10:09 PM (y87Qq)

387 The thing about 3D printing is that guns become not only a Second Amendment right, but also a *First* Amendment right.

How do you outlaw computer code?

That is check and mate for the statists.

Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2018 10:10 PM (sdi6R)

388
Kyle Smith
@rkylesmith
Rob Reiner's Iraq War movie SHOCK AND AWE earned $41,000 this weekend. Not a misprint.

-
Screwball comedies can be great films and money makers.

Screwball fake news propaganda, not so much.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 15, 2018 10:12 PM (+y/Ru)

389 Howdy, ma'am.

Posted by: Col. Angus at July 15, 2018 10:08 PM (8O3HH)

My pleasure, Colonel Angus!

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at July 15, 2018 10:15 PM (txw6d)

390 Just found out one of my favorite Quora authors is more or less a 1980s/90s-era headbanger.

He cited three of his all-time fave 'Glam/Hair Metal' bands as GNR, Tesla*, and Savatage.

(*Wow, I never even knew Elon Musk was in a band!)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 15, 2018 10:16 PM (Nc9iH)

391 You know, it just now occurred to me that I'm a Moron, and this is the Gun Thread, and I happen to have a new 80% firearm in its preorder phase right now.

It's called the CS12-80 80% Combat Shotgun, and it's a hybrid of a Mossberg 500 12ga pump action shotgun and an AR15.

Same action and reliability of the Mossy 500, but with the furniture and controls of an AR15. Easier to handle, intuitive to use, AND you can build yourself a nice shorty using a Shockwave parts kit (14" barrel) and an AR arm brace (like the nice new adjustable length ones from SB Tactical).

It's never been a shotgun before you finish it, and it was designed to be over 26" in OAL length with a 14" barrel and an AR arm brace.

Parts kits are readily available from many sources (eBay, gun parts houses like EveryGunPart.com, etc), and the receiver set comes with the jig you'll need to finish them using a router and hand drill (or better yet, a router and a drill press). We also sell the cutting tools you'll need, but since there is nothing proprietary involved there, you can buy them locally if you prefer.

I know this seems a bit spamy, but it's on topic, and I've been commenting here sporadically since before Jug Ears usurped the Cherry Blossom Throne, so I'm not some rando asshole (I'm a known asshole).

If you want to help a fellow Moron out, and stick it to the man just a little, you might wander over to the site my name links to above and see if you like what you see.

Posted by: CoolHand at July 15, 2018 11:26 PM (BxkRc)

392 I've cad a few Colt Pocket Hammerless pistols. They are great little pistols. I've found them to be pretty reliable and pointable.

Colt does offer a licenced reproduction of the general officers version. Id love to see a modernized one with an improved safety, and firing pin block.

Posted by: Matt at July 15, 2018 11:47 PM (arHvp)

393 Here in California run by the Stupid Jackass Party(Democrats)they want to regulate Gun Raffles and our comuunty is holding a raffle to benifit a little girl and one of the items is a firearm which gets the Democrats so upset

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at July 16, 2018 01:25 AM (FLiOE)

394 I have a .32 Colt Pocket Hammerless. Sweet pistol. Very accurate but the tiny sights leave a lot to be desired. Also have a .25 Colt Vest Pocket. Even more rare, 1907 Savage in .32 and 1915 Savage in .380. Both are nice pistols with the original double stack 10 round mags.

Posted by: JJ at July 16, 2018 11:19 PM (01k7G)

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