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Saturday Overnight Open Thread (7/7/18 )
The Saturday Night Joke
The king wanted to go fishing, and he asked the royal weather forecaster the forecast for the next few hours. The palace meteorologist assured him that there was no chance of rain so the king and the queen went fishing. On the way he met a man with a fishing pole riding on a donkey, and he asked the man if the fish were biting. The fisherman said, "Your Majesty, you should return to the palace! In just a short time I expect a huge rain storm." The king replied: "I hold the palace meteorologist in high regard. He is an educated and experienced professional. Besides, I pay him very high wages. He gave me a very different forecast. I trust him." So the king continued on his way. However, in a short time a torrential rain fell from the sky. The King and Queen were totally soaked. Furious, the king returned to the palace and gave the order to fire the meteorologist. Then he summoned the fisherman and offered him the prestigious position of royal forecaster. The fisherman said, "Your Majesty, I do not know anything about forecasting. I obtain my information from my donkey. If I see my donkey's ears drooping, it means with certainty that it will rain." So the king hired the donkey. And thus began the practice of hiring dumb asses to work in influential positions of government. The practice is unbroken to this date. Thus, the democratic party symbol was born.
On a happy note: Today is Nacho Day 606. It is 606 days that Hillary is nacho President!!!
Actor James Woods no longer has an agent. Wish we had more like him in Hollywood.
A short list. In no particular order. We told our children that any child could grow up to be President. And then we made it come true. We had car shows, boat shows, beauty shows and dog shows. We ran robots on the surface of Mars by remote control. Our women came from all over the world in all shapes and sizes and hues and scents. We actually believed that all men are created equal and tried to make it come true. Everybody liked our movies and loved our television shows. We tried to educate everybody, whether they wanted it or not. Sometimes we succeeded. We did Levis. We held the torch high and hundreds of millions came. No matter what the cost. We saved Europe twice and liberated it once..................
July 7, 1940, Born on this day, Richard Starkey, ( Ringo Starr, ) drums, vocals, Rory Storm, The Beatles. He sang lead vocals on one track on most Beatles albums, (The Beatles scored 21 US No.1 & 17 UK No.1 singles). Solo (1974 US No.1 & UK No.4 single 'You're Sixteen' plus 9 other US Top 40 hits). Ringo Starr and his all Star Band, (featuring; Howard Jones, Ian Hunter, Peter Frampton, Greg Lake). via thisdayinmusic.com
July 7, 1980, Led Zeppelin played their last-ever concert with drummer John Bonham when they appeared at Eissporthalle, West Berlin at the end of a European tour. The set included: 'Black Dog', 'The Rain Song', 'Hot Dog', 'All My Love', 'Trampled Under Foot', 'Since I’ve Been Loving You', 'Kashmir', 'Stairway To Heaven' and 'Rock And Roll'. They finished the show with a 17-minute version of 'Whole Lotta Love' via thisdayinmusic.com
First lady Melania Trump made an unannounced visit to wounded service members at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Maryland on Tuesday.
Mrs. Trump, who underwent kidney surgery at the Bethesda hospital back in May, didn’t publicly announce her visit until after she arrived — the latest in a string of “surprise” visits to locations throughout the U.S. The first lady tweeted that she had a “wonderful visit” at the medical center. She also thanked “the many dedicated service members & medical staff who take such good care of our men & women in uniform.”
Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Safety Procedures.
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Comments
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Nice place y'got here.
Posted by: mindful webworker - is it overnight already? at July 07, 2018 10:00 PM (lMyeR)
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Good night
Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2018 10:00 PM (pHfeF)
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Th
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at July 07, 2018 10:01 PM (mMeIQ)
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Thirſt!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 07, 2018 10:01 PM (e9G8E)
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Oh dang it......didn't get it. My bad
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at July 07, 2018 10:01 PM (mMeIQ)
Posted by: Mafia at July 07, 2018 10:03 PM (Mxa6K)
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Love the monster house
Posted by: Iris at July 07, 2018 10:04 PM (kdgv3)
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Evening Horde!
I went to see the Who in concert a couple of years ago. Ringo's son, Zak Starkey was their drummer.
Ringo only ever gave Zak one lesson drum lesson. Thank God.
Zak was terrific!
I went to see the Who in concert a couple of years ago. Ringo's son, Zak Starkey was their drummer.
Ringo only ever gave Zak one lesson drum lesson. Thank God.
Zak was terrific!
Posted by: Tonypete at July 07, 2018 10:04 PM (9rIkM)
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Hiya
Posted by: JT at July 07, 2018 10:05 PM (qMKnl)
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even odds that Hillary tonight is drunk and bitching about losing the election. And Bill is afraid to tell her to clam up.
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:05 PM (KxbBq)
11
What's a tortoise's fence?
Posted by: Leon Kowalski at July 07, 2018 10:06 PM (y87Qq)
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The modern day equivalent of Bonnie & Clyde?
Ozzy Man reviews is almost as good as adding yakkety sax
https://youtu.be/HW48LUZKOL4
Ozzy Man reviews is almost as good as adding yakkety sax
https://youtu.be/HW48LUZKOL4
Posted by: mindful webworker - nsfwhut? at July 07, 2018 10:06 PM (lMyeR)
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13
Posted by: Darrell at July 07, 2018 10:07 PM (oLhbH)
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Good evening.
Posted by: Robert at July 07, 2018 10:08 PM (Zogyx)
15
I like Gavin McInnes. I miss him on the old Redeye.
Posted by: Blutarsky at July 07, 2018 10:08 PM (+Tibp)
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even odds that Hillary tonight is drunk and bitching about losing the election. And Bill is afraid to tell her to clam up."""
I wonder why Bill answered the phone.
I wonder why Bill answered the phone.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 10:09 PM (Mxa6K)
17
I think Bill and Hillary are rarely in the same time zone. If they are, it's purely by happen-chance.
Posted by: Blutarsky at July 07, 2018 10:10 PM (+Tibp)
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>>>We actually believed that all men are created equal and tried to make it come true.
What cretin wrote this? This refers to equal treatment under the law, not the belief that all people have the same attributes.
What cretin wrote this? This refers to equal treatment under the law, not the belief that all people have the same attributes.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 07, 2018 10:10 PM (/qEW2)
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Happy ONT everybody!
That Gavin McInnes clip is the most wholesome I've ever seen him. I used to love him on the late, lamented Red Eye, where it was always a crap shoot as to whether he would snap his tether and say something problematic.
Aw, I miss Greg and Andy and Pinch.
That Gavin McInnes clip is the most wholesome I've ever seen him. I used to love him on the late, lamented Red Eye, where it was always a crap shoot as to whether he would snap his tether and say something problematic.
Aw, I miss Greg and Andy and Pinch.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 07, 2018 10:11 PM (gUCYC)
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What's a tortoise's fence?
It has to be a combo of Chesterton's Fence and a Post Turtle. But I'm not sure how.
It has to be a combo of Chesterton's Fence and a Post Turtle. But I'm not sure how.
Posted by: mikeski at July 07, 2018 10:11 PM (P1f+c)
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even odds that Hillary tonight is drunk and bitching about losing the election. And Bill is afraid to tell her to clam up."""
I wonder why Bill answered the phone.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 10:09 PM (Mxa6K)
Don't ever say Hillary and "clam" in the same sentence.
I wonder why Bill answered the phone.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 10:09 PM (Mxa6K)
Don't ever say Hillary and "clam" in the same sentence.
Posted by: Bill Clinton, shuddering at July 07, 2018 10:11 PM (Zogyx)
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Now that's an action-packed ONT. Thanks, MisHum!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:11 PM (hYcqw)
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re 16: he didn't, Huma did. She starts by saying, "The Real White House, how could I have helped you?"
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:12 PM (KxbBq)
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>>>We actually believed that all men are created equal and tried to make it come true.
What cretin wrote this? This refers to equal treatment under the law, not the belief that all people have the same attributes.
I think the "we" in that line is just Samuel Colt.
What cretin wrote this? This refers to equal treatment under the law, not the belief that all people have the same attributes.
I think the "we" in that line is just Samuel Colt.
Posted by: mikeski at July 07, 2018 10:12 PM (P1f+c)
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Kateurday ONT Compliance Videos
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Posted by: kbdabear at July 07, 2018 10:12 PM (eh0Va)
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even odds that Hillary tonight is drunk and bitching about losing the election. And Bill is afraid to tell her to clam up.
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:05 PM (KxbBq)
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I'd bet that Bill and Hills are nowhere near each other, and that they have not even slept under the same roof since WH days. That is still a marriage only because they can't be forced to testify against each other that way.
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:05 PM (KxbBq)
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I'd bet that Bill and Hills are nowhere near each other, and that they have not even slept under the same roof since WH days. That is still a marriage only because they can't be forced to testify against each other that way.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 10:13 PM (Qjvy3)
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Aw, I miss Greg and Andy and Pinch.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 07, 2018 10:11 PM (gUCYC)
Last I saw Andy Levy he was on HLN?
Commie bastich.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 07, 2018 10:11 PM (gUCYC)
Last I saw Andy Levy he was on HLN?
Commie bastich.
Posted by: Robert at July 07, 2018 10:13 PM (Zogyx)
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Is is already that time?
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM (txw6d)
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... That Gavin McInnes clip is the most wholesome I've ever seen him. I used to love him on the late, lamented Red Eye, where it was always a crap shoot as to whether he would snap his tether and say something problematic ...
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 07, 2018 10:11 PM (gUCYC)
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He's tamed a lot on CRTV as compared to the Rebel or earlier. CRTV is a bit more straight-laced an outlet. I have been debating subscribing to it, but they canceled the main draw for me (Mark Steyn), so I haven't pulled the trigger.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 07, 2018 10:11 PM (gUCYC)
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He's tamed a lot on CRTV as compared to the Rebel or earlier. CRTV is a bit more straight-laced an outlet. I have been debating subscribing to it, but they canceled the main draw for me (Mark Steyn), so I haven't pulled the trigger.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM (hYcqw)
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is there an over-under for when Hillz starts referring to herself as "President in Exile"?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM (2K6fY)
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15 I like Gavin McInnes. I miss him on the old Redeye.
Posted by: Blutarsky at July 07, 2018 10:08 PM (+Tibp)
He has his moments.
Posted by: Blutarsky at July 07, 2018 10:08 PM (+Tibp)
He has his moments.
Posted by: a degenerate pagan at July 07, 2018 10:15 PM (Ij2U7)
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is there an over-under for when Hillz starts referring to herself as "President in Exile"?
Posted by: Kindltot
The sooner the better, as long as it's true.
The "exile" part.
Posted by: Kindltot
The sooner the better, as long as it's true.
The "exile" part.
Posted by: mikeski at July 07, 2018 10:15 PM (P1f+c)
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On a happy note: Today is Nacho Day 606. It is 606 days that Hillary is nacho President!!!
And Hillary will NOT get to name two, count 'em two, supreme court justices. Woo Hoo!
So, got into a conversation with a liberal woman yesterday. I brought up the fact that Trump was getting to name a second SCJ. She said that he was looking at people young enough that they could serve for 30 years or more.
She was pretty devastated. BWAHAHAHAHA.
And Hillary will NOT get to name two, count 'em two, supreme court justices. Woo Hoo!
So, got into a conversation with a liberal woman yesterday. I brought up the fact that Trump was getting to name a second SCJ. She said that he was looking at people young enough that they could serve for 30 years or more.
She was pretty devastated. BWAHAHAHAHA.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 10:16 PM (+lVUW)
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is there an over-under for when Hillz starts referring to herself as "President in Exile"?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM (2K6fY)
+++++++++++
She can set up shop in London to emulate yesteryear's real exiled governments of real opposers of real Nazis. I'd love to see her cabinet-in-exile.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM (2K6fY)
+++++++++++
She can set up shop in London to emulate yesteryear's real exiled governments of real opposers of real Nazis. I'd love to see her cabinet-in-exile.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:16 PM (hYcqw)
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Is is already that time?
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM
It is, Your Graciousness...
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM
It is, Your Graciousness...
Posted by: Sexy Time! at July 07, 2018 10:16 PM (e9G8E)
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And remember Al Gore wrote another book with the rediculous title ASSAULT ON REASON if if there was any one to assaults Reason its Al Gore and these Greens as well as the Useless Nations the Fake News Network(CNN)and the New York Pravda(Times)and the Hollweird crowd
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at July 07, 2018 10:16 PM (FLiOE)
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Very, very rare good day here. Don't let anyone else know, the reprisal will be distorting.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 07, 2018 10:16 PM (l9m7l)
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 07, 2018 10:17 PM (hMwEB)
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Is is already that time?
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM (txw6d)
It's 5 o'clock somewhere.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM (txw6d)
It's 5 o'clock somewhere.
Posted by: Hills at July 07, 2018 10:17 PM (sXefu)
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 10:17 PM (y87Qq)
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Actor James Woods no longer has an agent. Wish we had more like him in Hollywood.
Why, it's almost like the days of The Blacklist.
Actor James Woods no longer has an agent. Wish we had more like him in Hollywood.
Why, it's almost like the days of The Blacklist.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 10:17 PM (+lVUW)
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Bill had a cigar, Hillary has a Humador.
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:17 PM (KxbBq)
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is there an over-under for when Hillz starts referring to herself as "President in Exile"?
Posted by: Kindltot
The sooner the better, as long as it's true.
The "exile" part.
Posted by: mikeski at July 07, 2018 10:15 PM (P1f+c
Fuck you lot!
Up the wrong 'un!
Posted by: Kindltot
The sooner the better, as long as it's true.
The "exile" part.
Posted by: mikeski at July 07, 2018 10:15 PM (P1f+c
Fuck you lot!
Up the wrong 'un!
Posted by: The Rest Of The World, including the shitty uninhabited bits at July 07, 2018 10:17 PM (Zogyx)
44
I spent the afternoon using a chainsaw for the first time in 4 years.
a) I forgot how fun it is
2) I didn't forget my moves . . . outside of that one moment where I realized I was wearing sneakers and not boots and my foot was just in the wrong place
iii) I am sore.
Mein Gott, I forgot that running a saw is back- and forearm-intensive work. This is why I used to have Popeye arms.
a) I forgot how fun it is
2) I didn't forget my moves . . . outside of that one moment where I realized I was wearing sneakers and not boots and my foot was just in the wrong place
iii) I am sore.
Mein Gott, I forgot that running a saw is back- and forearm-intensive work. This is why I used to have Popeye arms.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:17 PM (2K6fY)
Posted by: a degenerate pagan at July 07, 2018 10:18 PM (Ij2U7)
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It is, Your Graciousness...
Posted by: Sexy Time! at July 07, 2018 10:16 PM (e9G8E)
Well then, I should have primped for the ONT. But, I did not. So here I am without my mascara and negligee.
Posted by: Sexy Time! at July 07, 2018 10:16 PM (e9G8E)
Well then, I should have primped for the ONT. But, I did not. So here I am without my mascara and negligee.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:18 PM (txw6d)
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"Thank God."
Ringo was a fine/solid drummer and wrote the perfect parts for the songs he was working with.
Nigel Olsen and Russ Kunkel are two others in that same vein.
20 plus years ago I told Gary I was thinking about taking lessons to improve my stickv work.
He said "Don't. It'll ruin ya. Just hold on to that mindset you have when writing parts for my songs."
Ringo was a fine/solid drummer and wrote the perfect parts for the songs he was working with.
Nigel Olsen and Russ Kunkel are two others in that same vein.
20 plus years ago I told Gary I was thinking about taking lessons to improve my stickv work.
He said "Don't. It'll ruin ya. Just hold on to that mindset you have when writing parts for my songs."
Posted by: teej at July 07, 2018 10:19 PM (Z7oqE)
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It was a very nice day today. Hot sun, but a cooling breeze if you were in the shade. Very pleasant. Very nice to be outside, not realizing just how sunburned you are going to be when you try to sleep.
It feels very much like a movie scene where everyone is blissfully enjoying the summer months just before WWIII breaks out, unexpectedly, and aliens invade while an extinction event comet hits the planet.
It was a very nice day today. Hot sun, but a cooling breeze if you were in the shade. Very pleasant. Very nice to be outside, not realizing just how sunburned you are going to be when you try to sleep.
It feels very much like a movie scene where everyone is blissfully enjoying the summer months just before WWIII breaks out, unexpectedly, and aliens invade while an extinction event comet hits the planet.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 07, 2018 10:19 PM (roQNm)
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re 36: and I recall junk science King Paul Ehrlich writing a book about 20 years ago in an attempt to seize the phrase "junk science"
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:19 PM (KxbBq)
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Hands Up! Give me your Tabasco!
Posted by: Fritz at July 07, 2018 10:19 PM (kf11g)
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Well then, I should have primped for the ONT. But, I did not. So here I am without my mascara and negligee.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:18 PM (txw6d)
++++++++++++
We can wait...
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:18 PM (txw6d)
++++++++++++
We can wait...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:20 PM (hYcqw)
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She can set up shop in London to emulate
yesteryear's real exiled governments of real opposers of real Nazis. I'd
love to see her cabinet-in-exile.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:16 PM (hYcqw)
Huma, Al Gore in a gimp-suit, Dr. Feelgood, Maxine Waters, two Furbys and a teddy bear named Frank.
Frank is in charge of the GOTV financing.
yesteryear's real exiled governments of real opposers of real Nazis. I'd
love to see her cabinet-in-exile.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:16 PM (hYcqw)
Huma, Al Gore in a gimp-suit, Dr. Feelgood, Maxine Waters, two Furbys and a teddy bear named Frank.
Frank is in charge of the GOTV financing.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:21 PM (2K6fY)
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 10:21 PM (Mxa6K)
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at July 07, 2018 10:21 PM (e9G8E)
Posted by: ibguy at July 07, 2018 10:22 PM (vUcdz)
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Huma, Al Gore in a gimp-suit, Dr. Feelgood, Maxine Waters, two Furbys and a teddy bear named Frank.
Frank is in charge of the GOTV financing.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:21 PM (2K6fY)
+++++++++
The Banking Queen is still alive. He can dress as a teddy bear for the role.
And with that image, I now need to go vomit. I'll be back.
Frank is in charge of the GOTV financing.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:21 PM (2K6fY)
+++++++++
The Banking Queen is still alive. He can dress as a teddy bear for the role.
And with that image, I now need to go vomit. I'll be back.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:22 PM (hYcqw)
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The modern day equivalent of Bonnie & Clyde?
No, but you will get a chuckle or two out of them.
Why not taze the shit out of them? Too bad every cop can't have a police dog. Those dogs love their jobs, which is biting people. Watch the Cops shows. These doggies get really excited at the prospect of biting someone.
No, but you will get a chuckle or two out of them.
Why not taze the shit out of them? Too bad every cop can't have a police dog. Those dogs love their jobs, which is biting people. Watch the Cops shows. These doggies get really excited at the prospect of biting someone.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 10:23 PM (+lVUW)
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We can wait...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:20 PM (hYcqw)
I'm OK with no mascara as long as the negligee stays off too.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:20 PM (hYcqw)
I'm OK with no mascara as long as the negligee stays off too.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 10:24 PM (Mxa6K)
59
love Flotus! she never makes everything about her..not a publicity whore.
Posted by: IC at July 07, 2018 10:24 PM (PEJUg)
60
We can wait...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:20 PM (hYcqw)
You'll have to settle for Vicks Vaporub and a tank top.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:20 PM (hYcqw)
You'll have to settle for Vicks Vaporub and a tank top.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:24 PM (txw6d)
61
Very, very rare good day here. Don't let anyone else know, the reprisal will be distorting.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 07, 2018 10:16 PM (l9m7l)
I want you to mark it on a calendar, post it in a frame, draw a pic, write about it, draw pretty pics on your walll and never, never forget it, so when you hit those really dark places you do, you can reach back, remember, and know it'll happen again. Now get to it, Mr. BC. July 7, 2018 was a very, very good day. 7-7-2018.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 07, 2018 10:16 PM (l9m7l)
I want you to mark it on a calendar, post it in a frame, draw a pic, write about it, draw pretty pics on your walll and never, never forget it, so when you hit those really dark places you do, you can reach back, remember, and know it'll happen again. Now get to it, Mr. BC. July 7, 2018 was a very, very good day. 7-7-2018.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 10:25 PM (1lhwM)
62
You'll have to settle for Vicks Vaporub and a tank top.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:24 PM (txw6d)
++++++++++
It's in the same ballpark. We're good.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:24 PM (txw6d)
++++++++++
It's in the same ballpark. We're good.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:25 PM (hYcqw)
63
I spent the afternoon using a chainsaw for the first time in 4 years.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:17 PM (2K6fY)
I helped my neighbor extract a stump from her back yard with her truck.
My job was to stand out of the backlash path of the chain and, after a few tries, say "you know, we should probably just call a service before we end up as a funny story in an email forward" and she agreed. Mission accomplished!
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:17 PM (2K6fY)
I helped my neighbor extract a stump from her back yard with her truck.
My job was to stand out of the backlash path of the chain and, after a few tries, say "you know, we should probably just call a service before we end up as a funny story in an email forward" and she agreed. Mission accomplished!
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 10:25 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Butch at July 07, 2018 10:25 PM (hXu8T)
65
Wait, wait, wait! You guys each pay a company so you can carry around a little device that spies on you, Bill Cosby is a rapist and Members of Congress think you should be attacked because you disagree with them?
I just have one question: Was the unlimited free porn worth it?
I just have one question: Was the unlimited free porn worth it?
Posted by: Guy from 1998 at July 07, 2018 10:26 PM (jp0Bv)
66
It's in the same ballpark. We're good.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:25 PM (hYcqw)
Great. Are panties optional?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:25 PM (hYcqw)
Great. Are panties optional?
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:27 PM (txw6d)
67
I love FLOTUS.
I'm guessing the visits are unannounced for security reasons.
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 07, 2018 10:17 PM (hMwEB)
Yeah. And also because what would announcing them accomplish other than more press? Who wants to be around more press? I mean in general, and I mean ever.
I'm guessing the visits are unannounced for security reasons.
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 07, 2018 10:17 PM (hMwEB)
Yeah. And also because what would announcing them accomplish other than more press? Who wants to be around more press? I mean in general, and I mean ever.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 10:27 PM (n13/j)
68
65
Wait, wait, wait! You guys each pay a company so you can carry around a
little device that spies on you, Bill Cosby is a rapist and Members of
Congress think you should be attacked because you disagree with them?
I just have one question: Was the unlimited free porn worth it?
Posted by: Guy from 1998
Yes.
I mean no. No. That's what I ment.
Wait, wait, wait! You guys each pay a company so you can carry around a
little device that spies on you, Bill Cosby is a rapist and Members of
Congress think you should be attacked because you disagree with them?
I just have one question: Was the unlimited free porn worth it?
Posted by: Guy from 1998
Yes.
I mean no. No. That's what I ment.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 07, 2018 10:27 PM (peJQi)
69
30 is there an over-under for when Hillz starts referring to herself as "President in Exile"?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM (2K6fY)
Now that you mention it, I'm surprised Obama doesn't have a podium with a seal for the "Office of the Former President".
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM (2K6fY)
Now that you mention it, I'm surprised Obama doesn't have a podium with a seal for the "Office of the Former President".
Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2018 10:28 PM (sdi6R)
70
I am watching an interesting documentary (or film, or lecture, it is tricky classify) about beauty and art and why the modernists are a bunch of dangerous asshats. So far, so good. It is by an Englishman called Roger Scruton. If anyone is interested:
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:28 PM (hYcqw)
71
I just have one question: Was the unlimited free porn worth it?
Posted by: Guy from 1998 at July 07, 2018 10:26 PM (jp0Bv)
Nope, that would have been a terrible trade. The pictures of cats with funny captions on them? Totally worth it.
Posted by: Guy from 1998 at July 07, 2018 10:26 PM (jp0Bv)
Nope, that would have been a terrible trade. The pictures of cats with funny captions on them? Totally worth it.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 10:29 PM (y87Qq)
72
Hey everybody.
Reading about Frank Sinatra at Quora. Good or bad, they don't make guys like Frank anymore.
Reading about Frank Sinatra at Quora. Good or bad, they don't make guys like Frank anymore.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:29 PM (eMKNe)
73
Wait, wait, wait! You guys each pay a company so you
can carry around a little device that spies on you, Bill Cosby is a
rapist and Members of Congress think you should be attacked because you
disagree with them?
I just have one question: Was the unlimited free porn worth it?
Posted by: Guy from 1998 at July 07, 2018 10:26 PM (jp0Bv)
But you didn't have fidget spinners. Supposedly they are important.
can carry around a little device that spies on you, Bill Cosby is a
rapist and Members of Congress think you should be attacked because you
disagree with them?
I just have one question: Was the unlimited free porn worth it?
Posted by: Guy from 1998 at July 07, 2018 10:26 PM (jp0Bv)
But you didn't have fidget spinners. Supposedly they are important.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 10:29 PM (n13/j)
74
Great. Are panties optional?
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:27 PM (txw6d)
++++++++++++
Sure. It's an ONT. *Everything* is optional.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:27 PM (txw6d)
++++++++++++
Sure. It's an ONT. *Everything* is optional.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:29 PM (hYcqw)
75
How beautiful we WERE?
No, fucko, ARE. Not were.
Beyond sick and tired of hearing about how bad we are, or about our demise.
Got a bitch about the country? Fine. Go over in the corner and whisper it to the wall, and make damn sure I can't hear it.
How beautiful we WERE?
No, fucko, ARE. Not were.
Beyond sick and tired of hearing about how bad we are, or about our demise.
Got a bitch about the country? Fine. Go over in the corner and whisper it to the wall, and make damn sure I can't hear it.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 07, 2018 10:30 PM (S/hVx)
76
well, as Obama said, "when they go low, we get high"
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:30 PM (KxbBq)
77
Good. I'm totally not wearing those blue lace panties.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:31 PM (txw6d)
78
Frank, Dean, Sammy. Would be funny to hear what they think of our culture today. I doubt it would be too laudatory.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 10:31 PM (n13/j)
79
Got a bitch about the country? Fine. Go over in the corner and whisper it to the wall, and make damn sure I can't hear it.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 07, 2018 10:30 PM (S/hVx)
I think I could be six hours dead and my carcass would still snap to attention, feet at 45, thumbs along seams, out of pure reflex to an IGP post.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 07, 2018 10:30 PM (S/hVx)
I think I could be six hours dead and my carcass would still snap to attention, feet at 45, thumbs along seams, out of pure reflex to an IGP post.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 10:32 PM (y87Qq)
80
On last night's ONT, 'round midnight, we started discussing "The Worst Big Budget Movie Ever Made" (modern era). These were what we came up with. I doubt we missed any, but perhaps we COULD'VE overlooked one or two?
alphabetical order:
Alexander
Empire of the Sun
The English Patient
Gable and Lombard
In Harm's Way
Kingdom of Heaven
Pearl Harbor
Remains of the Day
They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
Waterworld
Aetius contributed about four of these, & I nominated a couple.
alphabetical order:
Alexander
Empire of the Sun
The English Patient
Gable and Lombard
In Harm's Way
Kingdom of Heaven
Pearl Harbor
Remains of the Day
They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
Waterworld
Aetius contributed about four of these, & I nominated a couple.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:32 PM (Cssks)
81
Now that you mention it, I'm surprised Obama doesn't have a podium with a seal for the "Office of the Former President".
Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2018 10:28 PM (sdi6R)
+++++++++++
That "Office of the President-Elect" crap with it's own freaking .gov domain name and official-looking seal made my blood boil. I didn't like his policies and was opposed to his presidency as soon as he opened his trap during the campaign, but seeing that opened my eyes to what we now call "The Swamp."
Those bastards endorsed his fantasies with official URLs and seals, and his lapdogs in the government/media complex never once asked even a tame question like "what do you hope to accomplish with the creation of the 'Office of the President-Elect?'"
Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2018 10:28 PM (sdi6R)
+++++++++++
That "Office of the President-Elect" crap with it's own freaking .gov domain name and official-looking seal made my blood boil. I didn't like his policies and was opposed to his presidency as soon as he opened his trap during the campaign, but seeing that opened my eyes to what we now call "The Swamp."
Those bastards endorsed his fantasies with official URLs and seals, and his lapdogs in the government/media complex never once asked even a tame question like "what do you hope to accomplish with the creation of the 'Office of the President-Elect?'"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:32 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at July 07, 2018 10:33 PM (NMMyk)
83
This whole lace panties thing only needs one comfortable hetero to ruin it for everyone.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 07, 2018 10:33 PM (zfrbv)
84
On last night's ONT, 'round midnight, we started discussing "The Worst Big Budget Movie Ever Made" (modern era). These were what we came up with. I doubt we missed any, but perhaps we COULD'VE overlooked one or two?
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:32 PM (Cssks)
Any particular reason Avatar was excluded, or just oversight?
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:32 PM (Cssks)
Any particular reason Avatar was excluded, or just oversight?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 10:33 PM (y87Qq)
85
80: I seem to recall Empire of the Sun being a fairly decent flick though its been a while since I've seen it.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 07, 2018 10:33 PM (peJQi)
86
Good. I'm totally not wearing those blue lace panties.
Posted by: Miley
Miley dear, serious question. Aren't lacy panties scratchy as hell?
Posted by: Miley
Miley dear, serious question. Aren't lacy panties scratchy as hell?
Posted by: Tonypete at July 07, 2018 10:34 PM (9rIkM)
87
Aetius contributed about four of these, & I nominated a couple.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:32 PM (Cssks)
++++++++++
Serious question, because it frames the discussion:
All of the items in that list had at least the self-styled pretense of being a "film" (as opposed to a "movie"). Is that a requirement? Because many giant-budget have sucked, but they also didn't put on such airs.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:32 PM (Cssks)
++++++++++
Serious question, because it frames the discussion:
All of the items in that list had at least the self-styled pretense of being a "film" (as opposed to a "movie"). Is that a requirement? Because many giant-budget have sucked, but they also didn't put on such airs.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:34 PM (hYcqw)
88
...like someone who screws his own shelving...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 07, 2018 10:34 PM (zfrbv)
89
Great content MisHum! Spent the day dodging lightning and mapping some fires. Kind of a fun day.
Posted by: DB Cooper at July 07, 2018 10:35 PM (LU8fy)
90
Thirst!
in other news, the heatwave broke enough this evening we have all but two of the windows in the house that open, open.
tomorrow is just supposed to be miserable, not Find miserable.
temp down, but humidity up. i don't do humid well at all.
in other news, the heatwave broke enough this evening we have all but two of the windows in the house that open, open.
tomorrow is just supposed to be miserable, not Find miserable.
temp down, but humidity up. i don't do humid well at all.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 07, 2018 10:36 PM (IuPpm)
91
Avatar is one movie I just can't finish. It is so so bad. Horrible writing. They had some decent actors in that movie but horrible writing doomed them.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 07, 2018 10:38 PM (peJQi)
92
How beautiful we WERE?
No, fucko, ARE. Not were.
Beyond sick and tired of hearing about how bad we are, or about our demise.
Got a bitch about the country? Fine. Go over in the corner and whisper it to the wall, and make damn sure I can't hear it.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 07, 2018 10:30 PM (S/hVx)
*giggles*
I so totally want to clone Irongrampa. Every house needs one. Some may need 2!
No, fucko, ARE. Not were.
Beyond sick and tired of hearing about how bad we are, or about our demise.
Got a bitch about the country? Fine. Go over in the corner and whisper it to the wall, and make damn sure I can't hear it.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 07, 2018 10:30 PM (S/hVx)
*giggles*
I so totally want to clone Irongrampa. Every house needs one. Some may need 2!
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 10:38 PM (1lhwM)
Posted by: All patrol cars equipped with Supersoakers! at July 07, 2018 10:38 PM (zjqhr)
94
40 Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 10:16 PM (+lVUW)
You! Michigan, yes?
Posted by: hogmartin
Yes.
You! Michigan, yes?
Posted by: hogmartin
Yes.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 10:38 PM (+lVUW)
95
Ok, as long as Tabasco Sauce doesn't involve any cultural appropriation.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 07, 2018 10:39 PM (/qEW2)
96
and naow, off to build a fire to cook tonight's "New Jersey Roast" (Tm)
another ~2.5# ribeye...
NY strips are on sale this week, so i'll pick some up Monday.
another ~2.5# ribeye...
NY strips are on sale this week, so i'll pick some up Monday.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 07, 2018 10:40 PM (IuPpm)
97
81
Those bastards endorsed his fantasies with official URLs and seals, and his lapdogs in the government/media complex never once asked even a tame question like "what do you hope to accomplish with the creation of the 'Office of the President-Elect?'"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:32 PM (hYcqw)
I also remember how the media seriously floated the idea that Bush should step aside and let Obama take power immediately after the 2008 election.
Funnily enough, I didn't hear that in November 2016.
Those bastards endorsed his fantasies with official URLs and seals, and his lapdogs in the government/media complex never once asked even a tame question like "what do you hope to accomplish with the creation of the 'Office of the President-Elect?'"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:32 PM (hYcqw)
I also remember how the media seriously floated the idea that Bush should step aside and let Obama take power immediately after the 2008 election.
Funnily enough, I didn't hear that in November 2016.
Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2018 10:40 PM (sdi6R)
98
On last night's ONT, 'round midnight, we started
discussing "The Worst Big Budget Movie Ever Made" (modern era). These
were what we came up with. I doubt we missed any, but perhaps we
COULD'VE overlooked one or two?
alphabetical order:
Alexander
Empire of the Sun
The English Patient
Gable and Lombard
In Harm's Way
Kingdom of Heaven
Pearl Harbor
Remains of the Day
They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
Waterworld
Aetius contributed about four of these, I nominated a couple.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:32 PM (Cssks)
Good list. I would nix Remains of the Day (good movie, not really "big budget") and Empire of the Sun. I have never heard of "They Don't Shoot Horses...".
Heaven's Gate was the classic example though many say it was much better than the reputation It did lose a lot of money though. The English Patient was the worst one everyone pretended to like, h/t Seinfeld but still true. Alexander was a horrible bust because the director wanted to tear the guy down and paid for it..
discussing "The Worst Big Budget Movie Ever Made" (modern era). These
were what we came up with. I doubt we missed any, but perhaps we
COULD'VE overlooked one or two?
alphabetical order:
Alexander
Empire of the Sun
The English Patient
Gable and Lombard
In Harm's Way
Kingdom of Heaven
Pearl Harbor
Remains of the Day
They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
Waterworld
Aetius contributed about four of these, I nominated a couple.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:32 PM (Cssks)
Good list. I would nix Remains of the Day (good movie, not really "big budget") and Empire of the Sun. I have never heard of "They Don't Shoot Horses...".
Heaven's Gate was the classic example though many say it was much better than the reputation It did lose a lot of money though. The English Patient was the worst one everyone pretended to like, h/t Seinfeld but still true. Alexander was a horrible bust because the director wanted to tear the guy down and paid for it..
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 10:40 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Off the reservation at July 07, 2018 10:41 PM (vWMNq)
100
re 80:
Heavens Gate (almost destroyed Michael Cimino' career)
Ishtar
Dune
Spielberg's 1941 (if I recall the title correctly)
Heavens Gate (almost destroyed Michael Cimino' career)
Ishtar
Dune
Spielberg's 1941 (if I recall the title correctly)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:41 PM (KxbBq)
101
77 Me neither
Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at July 07, 2018 10:42 PM (9TR2V)
102
Hogmartin & Mannix
"Avatar" is not there because nobody nominated it heretofore. Consider it on the revised list, which I will update before I pass out... uh, I mean, fall asleep.
Good catch, btw.
The "modern era" means the last 50 years, i.e., since 1968.
Mannix
I don't know the difference between a film and
a movie. As long as it cost an obscene amount of money & somebody lost their shirt, it's in.
"Avatar" is not there because nobody nominated it heretofore. Consider it on the revised list, which I will update before I pass out... uh, I mean, fall asleep.
Good catch, btw.
The "modern era" means the last 50 years, i.e., since 1968.
Mannix
I don't know the difference between a film and
a movie. As long as it cost an obscene amount of money & somebody lost their shirt, it's in.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:42 PM (Cssks)
103
Speaking of classic singers...
Is anyone here familiar with the 2010 album Praise & Blame, by Tom Jones?
A few weeks ago Sirius played the track from it, 'burning hell.' It was incredible and I couldn't believe it was the same guy who recorded all those pop classics from the 60s/70s. Talk about lasting talent.
Is anyone here familiar with the 2010 album Praise & Blame, by Tom Jones?
A few weeks ago Sirius played the track from it, 'burning hell.' It was incredible and I couldn't believe it was the same guy who recorded all those pop classics from the 60s/70s. Talk about lasting talent.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:43 PM (eMKNe)
104
Yes.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 10:38 PM (+lVUW)
Yaay!
I'll stop spamming threads with this in a day or so since it's on the front page left sidebar now and I don't post a lot during the week.
https://mimomee.stoatnet.org/
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 10:38 PM (+lVUW)
Yaay!
I'll stop spamming threads with this in a day or so since it's on the front page left sidebar now and I don't post a lot during the week.
https://mimomee.stoatnet.org/
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 10:43 PM (y87Qq)
105
temp down, but humidity up. i don't do humid well at all.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 07, 2018 10:36 PM (IuPpm)
I had a friend that told me she didn't "believe" in humidity. Like it was a choice or something. I laugh at it now, but at the time I was "are you nuts? Of course it makes a difference." She was one of those people who believed what she believed and there was no way you were gonna prove her wrong. An irish temper to boot.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 07, 2018 10:36 PM (IuPpm)
I had a friend that told me she didn't "believe" in humidity. Like it was a choice or something. I laugh at it now, but at the time I was "are you nuts? Of course it makes a difference." She was one of those people who believed what she believed and there was no way you were gonna prove her wrong. An irish temper to boot.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 10:43 PM (1lhwM)
106
Hollywood busts are much more common now, who could keep up? I think Damon alone has had a lot of busts where they try to shove leftism down your throats. Miss. Sloane was a recent want right?
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 10:43 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 07, 2018 10:44 PM (6FqZa)
108
100: Ishtar is the only movie I have ever walked out of. Terrible.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 07, 2018 10:44 PM (peJQi)
109
11 What's a tortoise's fence?
Posted by: Leon Kowalski at July 07, 2018 10:06 PM (y87Qq)
++++
http://www.louispage.com/blog/bid/12347/
What-Is-A-Turtle-or-Tortoise-Fence
Posted by: Leon Kowalski at July 07, 2018 10:06 PM (y87Qq)
++++
http://www.louispage.com/blog/bid/12347/
What-Is-A-Turtle-or-Tortoise-Fence
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2018 10:44 PM (1F9jV)
110
I don't know the difference between a film and
a movie. As long as it cost an obscene amount of money & somebody lost their shirt, it's in.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:42 PM (Cssks)
++++++++++
Well, "lost their shirt" excludes several that already on the list. Avatar was a big-budget POS but it made money. So (eventually) did Waterworld (though it was a financial disaster initially).
So I am assuming big-budget summer-movie types are off the list, like say, Transformers: Age of Extinction" It cost a fortune and sucks, but it didn't fail.
The recent "Solo" might belong on the list. It might take down the entire studio through its awfulness.
a movie. As long as it cost an obscene amount of money & somebody lost their shirt, it's in.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:42 PM (Cssks)
++++++++++
Well, "lost their shirt" excludes several that already on the list. Avatar was a big-budget POS but it made money. So (eventually) did Waterworld (though it was a financial disaster initially).
So I am assuming big-budget summer-movie types are off the list, like say, Transformers: Age of Extinction" It cost a fortune and sucks, but it didn't fail.
The recent "Solo" might belong on the list. It might take down the entire studio through its awfulness.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:44 PM (hYcqw)
111
straw dog: oh man, wish I hadn't missed that. Lots of infamous, hyperbudgeted Hollywood flops. I still marvel over what happened with Heaven's Gate. I read Final Cut and the long and short of it is, Michael Cimino was a screaming douchebag whose post-Deer Hunter success all went straight to his already inflated head.
Bruce Willis flick I remember bombed badly: Hudson Hawk.
Bruce Willis flick I remember bombed badly: Hudson Hawk.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:45 PM (eMKNe)
112
Quint: Today, Hollywood is so averse to big budget busts today, and professional feature filmmaking has become so mindbendingly expensive, that it seems everything is a co-production between one or two major studios and a shitload of small ones.
Case in point: Blade Runner 2049, which itself I believe was a bust.
Case in point: Blade Runner 2049, which itself I believe was a bust.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:46 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 07, 2018 10:46 PM (peJQi)
114
Duterte cracks me up.
https://tinyurl.com/ycgc9ksz
I think he's trolling people, but he's a funny troll.
https://tinyurl.com/ycgc9ksz
I think he's trolling people, but he's a funny troll.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 07, 2018 10:47 PM (/qEW2)
115
106 Hollywood busts are much more common now, who could keep up? I think Damon alone has had a lot of busts where they try to shove leftism down your throats. Miss. Sloane was a recent want right?
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 10:43 PM (n13/j)
Yes and speaking of Damon I believe his movie "Downsizing" was a flop.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 10:43 PM (n13/j)
Yes and speaking of Damon I believe his movie "Downsizing" was a flop.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 07, 2018 10:47 PM (ynAYf)
116
Peach 100
Worthy nominees! They shall be on the TBA revised list.
Quint
Agree with you about Remains of the Day. Since there are 2 no votes, that one goes.
Don't feel bad about "They Shoot Horses, Don't They?" (Jane Fonda; Gig Young; Red Buttons). I never heard of Kingdom of Heaven, myself. Aetius owns that one.
Worthy nominees! They shall be on the TBA revised list.
Quint
Agree with you about Remains of the Day. Since there are 2 no votes, that one goes.
Don't feel bad about "They Shoot Horses, Don't They?" (Jane Fonda; Gig Young; Red Buttons). I never heard of Kingdom of Heaven, myself. Aetius owns that one.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:47 PM (Cssks)
117
I had a friend that told me she didn't "believe" in humidity. Like it was a choice or something. I laugh at it now, but at the time I was "are you nuts? Of course it makes a difference." She was one of those people who believed what she believed and there was no way you were gonna prove her wrong. An irish temper to boot.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 10:43 PM (1lhwM)
+++++++++
Oh, it's real alright. When I moved from dry CO to wet Upstate NY, that hit me in the face like Mike Tyson. My first Autumn there, I saw that the outside temp was in the low 40s and thought, "Oh, okay. Long sleeves." I walked outside and *immediately* went back in for something warmer. Low 40s here is "balmy." There, it is "uncomfortably cold."
I do agree that it stops mattering so much below about -10. Having experienced both, it's just "really freaking cold" once it gets down that low. Full stop.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 10:43 PM (1lhwM)
+++++++++
Oh, it's real alright. When I moved from dry CO to wet Upstate NY, that hit me in the face like Mike Tyson. My first Autumn there, I saw that the outside temp was in the low 40s and thought, "Oh, okay. Long sleeves." I walked outside and *immediately* went back in for something warmer. Low 40s here is "balmy." There, it is "uncomfortably cold."
I do agree that it stops mattering so much below about -10. Having experienced both, it's just "really freaking cold" once it gets down that low. Full stop.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:48 PM (hYcqw)
118
http://www.louispage.com/blog/bid/12347/
What-Is-A-Turtle-or-Tortoise-Fence
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2018 10:44 PM (1F9jV)
"A turtle fence can be a costly project and is often a cause of debate."
1: "I believe turtle fence."
2: "I disagree. Not turtle fence."
*cut to parking lot*
*1 flies through plate-glass window*
What-Is-A-Turtle-or-Tortoise-Fence
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2018 10:44 PM (1F9jV)
"A turtle fence can be a costly project and is often a cause of debate."
1: "I believe turtle fence."
2: "I disagree. Not turtle fence."
*cut to parking lot*
*1 flies through plate-glass window*
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 10:48 PM (y87Qq)
119
Solo isn't awful. It's good. It also made some revenue. It failed because they SPENT too much, which they arrogantly assumed they could have made back.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 07, 2018 10:49 PM (6FqZa)
120
Movies are a great way to escape.
And deny reality.
And stick your head in the sand.
And pretend society isn't collapsing.
And receive communist agitprop in Dolby stereo.
And have your entire existence reduced to "Christianist, racist, misogynist penis person".
Yay, Hollywood.
And deny reality.
And stick your head in the sand.
And pretend society isn't collapsing.
And receive communist agitprop in Dolby stereo.
And have your entire existence reduced to "Christianist, racist, misogynist penis person".
Yay, Hollywood.
Posted by: dyno-elite canned hate at July 07, 2018 10:49 PM (HkF2/)
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Puddleglum, it did pretty much destroy Cimino's career.
As I understand it, he and his production teams were hyperscrutinized from then on, whenever he had the (rare) opportunity to direct any further films. The production companies also probably had absolute rights to fire him at any time for any reason.
The only 'big' pic Cimino ever got to direct after Heaven's Gate, was The Sicilian, which from what I can tell has violently disagreeing reviews. Some people think it's incredible, others think it's trash.
As I understand it, he and his production teams were hyperscrutinized from then on, whenever he had the (rare) opportunity to direct any further films. The production companies also probably had absolute rights to fire him at any time for any reason.
The only 'big' pic Cimino ever got to direct after Heaven's Gate, was The Sicilian, which from what I can tell has violently disagreeing reviews. Some people think it's incredible, others think it's trash.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:49 PM (eMKNe)
122
As stated, "Heaven's Gate" goes on; "Remains of the Day" comes off.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:49 PM (Cssks)
123
"The Worst Big Budget Movie Ever Made"
Avatar?
Pretty as hell, but the story didn't even count as phoned in. Morse-coded in?
They couldn't even spend 2 seconds to come up with their own name for "unobtainium". That's the equivalent of actually calling your protagonist Mary Sue.
Avatar?
Pretty as hell, but the story didn't even count as phoned in. Morse-coded in?
They couldn't even spend 2 seconds to come up with their own name for "unobtainium". That's the equivalent of actually calling your protagonist Mary Sue.
Posted by: mikeski at July 07, 2018 10:49 PM (P1f+c)
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Avatar is one movie I just can't finish. It is so so bad. Horrible writing. They had some decent actors in that movie but horrible writing doomed them.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 07, 2018 10:38 PM (peJQi)
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I only ever saw it once, because my then 12 year old daughter wanted to see it. It was so over the top Anto Corporatist/Capitalist that even my daughter picked up on it.
After, on the way to the car, daughter says "Wow Dad, those people that made that movie really don't like big companies, do they?".
"No honey, they don't. Funny thing, the guy who directed it is not opposed to making money for himself. He's worth about $200 million".
"Well Dad, that explains it. He has so much money he can afford to not care about people who work at regular jobs at companies like that."
"I guess you're right, kiddo."
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 07, 2018 10:38 PM (peJQi)
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I only ever saw it once, because my then 12 year old daughter wanted to see it. It was so over the top Anto Corporatist/Capitalist that even my daughter picked up on it.
After, on the way to the car, daughter says "Wow Dad, those people that made that movie really don't like big companies, do they?".
"No honey, they don't. Funny thing, the guy who directed it is not opposed to making money for himself. He's worth about $200 million".
"Well Dad, that explains it. He has so much money he can afford to not care about people who work at regular jobs at companies like that."
"I guess you're right, kiddo."
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 10:49 PM (Qjvy3)
125
Episodes I, II, III were awful big budget movies.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 07, 2018 10:50 PM (/qEW2)
126
104 Yes.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 10:38 PM
Yaay!
I'll stop spamming threads with this in a day or so since it's on the front page left sidebar now and I don't post a lot during the week.
https://mimomee.stoatnet.org/
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 10:43 PM
Michigan resident here as well. (Detroit area) Just sent an application for the site. I'm mostly a lurker, so figured I'd give a heads-up.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 10:38 PM
Yaay!
I'll stop spamming threads with this in a day or so since it's on the front page left sidebar now and I don't post a lot during the week.
https://mimomee.stoatnet.org/
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 10:43 PM
Michigan resident here as well. (Detroit area) Just sent an application for the site. I'm mostly a lurker, so figured I'd give a heads-up.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 10:50 PM (7A4qQ)
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Quint: Today, Hollywood is so averse to big budget
busts today, and professional feature filmmaking has become so
mindbendingly expensive, that it seems everything is a co-production
between one or two major studios and a shitload of small ones.
Case in point: Blade Runner 2049, which itself I believe was a bust.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:46 PM (eMKNe)
That makes a lot of sense. Like way back when they they sold shares of ships trading goods abroad. People would divide the risk so when a ship sunk, you were not ruined. And like how the defense contractors now divvy up big wins so the losing companies don't go out of business. They know they were all lose from time to time.
busts today, and professional feature filmmaking has become so
mindbendingly expensive, that it seems everything is a co-production
between one or two major studios and a shitload of small ones.
Case in point: Blade Runner 2049, which itself I believe was a bust.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:46 PM (eMKNe)
That makes a lot of sense. Like way back when they they sold shares of ships trading goods abroad. People would divide the risk so when a ship sunk, you were not ruined. And like how the defense contractors now divvy up big wins so the losing companies don't go out of business. They know they were all lose from time to time.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 10:50 PM (n13/j)
128
well, below freezing point, the humidity is about the same, because the moisture is on the ground as ice and not in the air as vapour.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 07, 2018 10:51 PM (6FqZa)
129
I saw Empire of the Sun and thought you meant Tears of the Sun since I had never even heard of the former. I liked the later.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 10:51 PM (Mxa6K)
130
Kingdom of Heaven would have been better with a different lead. Orlando Bloom isn't leading actor material. He's ok but not a lead. All that said, Kingdom of Heaven was a good flick. I may be biased over my lust of Eva Green.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 07, 2018 10:51 PM (peJQi)
131
Faked Bonnie & Clyde? Makes no sense in so many ways.
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at July 07, 2018 10:51 PM (xFZUI)
132
Oh gotta mention:
The leftist douchebag Hollywood blogger I've told you all about, Jeffrey Wells?
He says he HATES, with a passion, The Deer Hunter. And why, you might ask?
Because he believes those characters, IF THEY WERE REAL PEOPLE, would be Trump supporters.
Good fcuking grief.
The leftist douchebag Hollywood blogger I've told you all about, Jeffrey Wells?
He says he HATES, with a passion, The Deer Hunter. And why, you might ask?
Because he believes those characters, IF THEY WERE REAL PEOPLE, would be Trump supporters.
Good fcuking grief.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:52 PM (eMKNe)
133
Quint: Today, Hollywood is so averse to big budget
busts today, and professional feature filmmaking has become so
mindbendingly expensive, that it seems everything is a co-production
between one or two major studios and a shitload of small ones.
Case in point: Blade Runner 2049, which itself I believe was a bust.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:46 PM (eMKNe)
It is almost as if Hollywood is as bad at judging what people want as the Dems. It is like they are the same people or something.
busts today, and professional feature filmmaking has become so
mindbendingly expensive, that it seems everything is a co-production
between one or two major studios and a shitload of small ones.
Case in point: Blade Runner 2049, which itself I believe was a bust.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:46 PM (eMKNe)
It is almost as if Hollywood is as bad at judging what people want as the Dems. It is like they are the same people or something.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 10:52 PM (n13/j)
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re 113: he did a film a few years later that starred Mickey Roarke as an NYC detective fighting Chinese gangs in NYC Chinatown. Got it done on time and at (or maybe a bit below) budget. As per wikipedia he did another couple of files, died two years ago
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:52 PM (KxbBq)
135
Calm Mentor, re your 12/f, I can only re-quote Hudson from Aliens.
WHY DON`T THEY PUT *HER* IN CHARGE.
(As opposed to the idiot SJWettes we got here.)
WHY DON`T THEY PUT *HER* IN CHARGE.
(As opposed to the idiot SJWettes we got here.)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 07, 2018 10:52 PM (6FqZa)
136
Pompeo (on Fox) now. talking about N K stuff.
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:53 PM (KxbBq)
137
Quint, it does make sense. But it's also kind of funny; today the first minute and a half of a film, is watching all the up-front studio logos, both of those you recognize (20th Century Fox, Paramount) and these teeny tiny companies no one's ever heard of, or at least not yet.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:53 PM (eMKNe)
138
A movie is something you check your brain in at the door, and just get entertained for an hour or so.
A film is something that captures you and makes you think about what it portrays.
A movie is something you check your brain in at the door, and just get entertained for an hour or so.
A film is something that captures you and makes you think about what it portrays.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 07, 2018 10:53 PM (S/hVx)
139
107 Worst big budget: Star Wars 2, Attack Of George Lucas.
I don't like sand.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 07, 2018 10:44 PM (6FqZa)
All three of the prequels have major problems. Episode One is a kids action adventure story about a trade embargo. Plus Jar Jar.
Episode Two has awful romance dialogue. "I hate sand."
Episode Three feels like half a movie. First we go here. Then we go to this planet. Then we go to another one. And "only the Sith deal in absolutes" stupidity.
I don't like sand.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 07, 2018 10:44 PM (6FqZa)
All three of the prequels have major problems. Episode One is a kids action adventure story about a trade embargo. Plus Jar Jar.
Episode Two has awful romance dialogue. "I hate sand."
Episode Three feels like half a movie. First we go here. Then we go to this planet. Then we go to another one. And "only the Sith deal in absolutes" stupidity.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 07, 2018 10:54 PM (ynAYf)
140
Michigan resident here as well. (Detroit area) Just sent an application for the site. I'm mostly a lurker, so figured I'd give a heads-up.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 10:50 PM (7A4qQ)
I appreciate it! Your account's activated, hope you can make it there. We're looking at late September/early October.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 10:50 PM (7A4qQ)
I appreciate it! Your account's activated, hope you can make it there. We're looking at late September/early October.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 10:54 PM (y87Qq)
141
Avatar is on, as stated.
Since I am your Worst Movie composter, I vote against putting either Blade Runner on the list. The first one was good, & the second one was... something.
Since I am your Worst Movie composter, I vote against putting either Blade Runner on the list. The first one was good, & the second one was... something.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:54 PM (Cssks)
142
And wow, that was fast. I was accepted. Thank you!
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 10:54 PM (7A4qQ)
143
Lots of content, Mis Hum! I watched the whole Tabasco video. Some cool background music on that, too. I have been to Avery Island. There is a botanical garden there. Well worth a visit!
Watched the whole Ringo Starr video too. Lots of big name musicians on that track.
Listening to Zep right now.
Watched the whole Ringo Starr video too. Lots of big name musicians on that track.
Listening to Zep right now.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 10:54 PM (a2xQ5)
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Do any of M. Night Shyamalan later works (and by that, I mean "everything after 'The Sixth Sense'") count?
I would nominate the unalloyed shit salad that was "After Earth?" It was terrible and $150 million to produce.
It made money, but cemented Shymalan has a laughing stock and he then went on to produce two sub-$10 million movies. His newest movie is budgeted at ~$50 million - chump change by modern standards.
Signs (no pun intended) point to it being a big-budget career ender.
I would nominate the unalloyed shit salad that was "After Earth?" It was terrible and $150 million to produce.
It made money, but cemented Shymalan has a laughing stock and he then went on to produce two sub-$10 million movies. His newest movie is budgeted at ~$50 million - chump change by modern standards.
Signs (no pun intended) point to it being a big-budget career ender.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:54 PM (hYcqw)
145
Waves at Miley! Glad you are doing well!
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at July 07, 2018 10:54 PM (mMeIQ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:55 PM (eMKNe)
147
If Remains of the Day is on that list, then it's just a "I don't like these movies" list. Because there's nothing wrong with that film in terms of casting, acting, directing, cinematography, etc.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 07, 2018 10:56 PM (H5knJ)
148
Strawdog said "the worst big budget movie". Not the same as a flop. There was was mission creep in my understanding of the discussion. I stand by most of my comments but a few don't exactly apply.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 10:57 PM (n13/j)
149
is there an over-under for when Hillz starts referring to herself as "President in Exile"?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM (2K6fY)
Could we call her "Polident in Textile"?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM (2K6fY)
Could we call her "Polident in Textile"?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 10:57 PM (a2xQ5)
150
Bonnie & Clyde may be justly criticized, but it isn't even remotely CLOSE to being the Worst Big Budget Movie Ever Made. Thanks for playing.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:57 PM (Cssks)
151
Also, 'devil' is pretty good.
Posted by: qdpsteve
I like that film. I found it weirdly uplifting.
Posted by: qdpsteve
I like that film. I found it weirdly uplifting.
Posted by: Blutarsky at July 07, 2018 10:58 PM (+Tibp)
152
I saw Empire of the Sun and thought you meant Tears of the Sun since I had never even heard of the former. I liked the later.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 10:51 PM (Mxa6K)
My dad was on TAD at Great Lakes (home of corpsman school, at the time at least) and saw Tears of the Sun at the base theater. He said when that dialogue came up "Are you a doctor?" "No, I'm a corpsman, ma'am", you couldn't hear anything in the theater for the next minute or two.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 10:51 PM (Mxa6K)
My dad was on TAD at Great Lakes (home of corpsman school, at the time at least) and saw Tears of the Sun at the base theater. He said when that dialogue came up "Are you a doctor?" "No, I'm a corpsman, ma'am", you couldn't hear anything in the theater for the next minute or two.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 10:58 PM (y87Qq)
153
I appreciate it! Your account's activated, hope you can make it there. We're looking at late September/early October.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 10:54 PM
Thank you!
Sounds great. Weather will be much nicer then. Should be cooler and low humidity. This 90s with high humidity we have had most of the past 2 months has not been to my liking at all.
It would be pretty cool getting to meet some fellow right-leaning people here in Michigan. And not having to watch what I say regarding political views. Seems everywhere I go here, save for when I am with friends, I have to keep a low profile.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 10:54 PM
Thank you!
Sounds great. Weather will be much nicer then. Should be cooler and low humidity. This 90s with high humidity we have had most of the past 2 months has not been to my liking at all.
It would be pretty cool getting to meet some fellow right-leaning people here in Michigan. And not having to watch what I say regarding political views. Seems everywhere I go here, save for when I am with friends, I have to keep a low profile.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 10:58 PM (7A4qQ)
154
If Remains of the Day is on that list, then it's
just a "I don't like these movies" list. Because there's nothing wrong
with that film in terms of casting, acting, directing, cinematography,
etc.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 07, 2018 10:56 PM (H5knJ)
yes
just a "I don't like these movies" list. Because there's nothing wrong
with that film in terms of casting, acting, directing, cinematography,
etc.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 07, 2018 10:56 PM (H5knJ)
yes
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 10:58 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:58 PM (txw6d)
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As for 'the worst big budget movie'?
I hope I don't get in trouble with God for saying it, but...
The Ten Commandments.
I'm sorry, but what passed for great acting, pacing and SFX in 1956 just doesn't cut it today.
I hope I don't get in trouble with God for saying it, but...
The Ten Commandments.
I'm sorry, but what passed for great acting, pacing and SFX in 1956 just doesn't cut it today.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:59 PM (eMKNe)
157
106 Hollywood busts are much more common now, who could keep up? I think Damon alone has had a lot of busts where they try to shove leftism down your throats. Miss. Sloane was a recent want right?
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 10:43 PM (n13/j)
I found this post so confusing. First, I thought you were talking about busts, as in a sculpture of a person's head & shoulders. But after reading the whole post, that didn't make any sense. Damon didn't have a lot of busts of himself. So then I thought we were talking boobs...bcz Hollywood and well, you guys. But that didn't work either.
Then, I couldn't figure out what poster Miss Sloane was. Was she someone new and what did she want?
Finally, thru some hidden magic, it all came together. For anyone else confused...bust as in went bust (lost money) Damon as in actor lib Matt Damon (movie like Suburbicon) and Miss Sloane was also a movie, with an outspoken lib Jessica Chaistain, iirc. Which I think may have bombed.
Phew. i'm exhausted. I usually only get that confused during a movie thread.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 10:43 PM (n13/j)
I found this post so confusing. First, I thought you were talking about busts, as in a sculpture of a person's head & shoulders. But after reading the whole post, that didn't make any sense. Damon didn't have a lot of busts of himself. So then I thought we were talking boobs...bcz Hollywood and well, you guys. But that didn't work either.
Then, I couldn't figure out what poster Miss Sloane was. Was she someone new and what did she want?
Finally, thru some hidden magic, it all came together. For anyone else confused...bust as in went bust (lost money) Damon as in actor lib Matt Damon (movie like Suburbicon) and Miss Sloane was also a movie, with an outspoken lib Jessica Chaistain, iirc. Which I think may have bombed.
Phew. i'm exhausted. I usually only get that confused during a movie thread.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 10:59 PM (1lhwM)
158
Sounds great. Weather will be much nicer then. Should be cooler and low humidity. This 90s with high humidity we have had most of the past 2 months has not been to my liking at all.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 10:58 PM (7A4qQ)
Yeah, that was kind of the idea. People who balk at the idea of being outside in the upper midwest in the fall have never been tailgating. It's the best time of year IMO.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 10:58 PM (7A4qQ)
Yeah, that was kind of the idea. People who balk at the idea of being outside in the upper midwest in the fall have never been tailgating. It's the best time of year IMO.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:00 PM (y87Qq)
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Quint
Correct. Were not looking for the biggest box office turkey, we're searching for the worst movie. Obviously there is some overlap, i.e., Heaven's Gate.
Correct. Were not looking for the biggest box office turkey, we're searching for the worst movie. Obviously there is some overlap, i.e., Heaven's Gate.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:00 PM (Cssks)
160
Bonnie & Clyde is actually a pretty good flick IMHO. It helps to keep in mind the subtext of the era in which it was released.
Today an audience would find it 'full of cliches.' Yeah, well in 1967, making the bad guys the good guys, wasn't a cliche. Yet.
Today an audience would find it 'full of cliches.' Yeah, well in 1967, making the bad guys the good guys, wasn't a cliche. Yet.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:00 PM (eMKNe)
161
Quint, it does make sense. But it's also kind of
funny; today the first minute and a half of a film, is watching all the
up-front studio logos, both of those you recognize (20th Century Fox,
Paramount) and these teeny tiny companies no one's ever heard of, or at
least not yet.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:53 PM (eMKNe)
Yeah it gets absurd. Everyone needs to have their own vanity production studio it seems. I think that "bad Robot" one set off the arms race. A lot of celebs have them, like Happy Madison etc.
funny; today the first minute and a half of a film, is watching all the
up-front studio logos, both of those you recognize (20th Century Fox,
Paramount) and these teeny tiny companies no one's ever heard of, or at
least not yet.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:53 PM (eMKNe)
Yeah it gets absurd. Everyone needs to have their own vanity production studio it seems. I think that "bad Robot" one set off the arms race. A lot of celebs have them, like Happy Madison etc.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 11:01 PM (n13/j)
162
My entertainment tomorrow will be fixing my daughters brakes. Since her boyfriend has started and failed. I'm wondering what undoing his attempt will add to the time I will spend doing a 1/2 hour job.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:01 PM (Mxa6K)
163
I spent the afternoon using a chainsaw for the first time in 4 years.
a) I forgot how fun it is
2) I didn't forget my moves . . . outside of that one moment where I realized I was wearing sneakers and not boots and my foot was just in the wrong place
iii) I am sore.
Mein Gott, I forgot that running a saw is back- and forearm-intensive work. This is why I used to have Popeye arms.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:17 PM (2K6fY)
Chainsaws, and similar power tools are amazing, in that you or I can do, in less than a minute, what it took two strong men half a morning to do.
a) I forgot how fun it is
2) I didn't forget my moves . . . outside of that one moment where I realized I was wearing sneakers and not boots and my foot was just in the wrong place
iii) I am sore.
Mein Gott, I forgot that running a saw is back- and forearm-intensive work. This is why I used to have Popeye arms.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:17 PM (2K6fY)
Chainsaws, and similar power tools are amazing, in that you or I can do, in less than a minute, what it took two strong men half a morning to do.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:01 PM (a2xQ5)
164
Quint, exactly. All the actors want a piece of the Executive Producer pie, just in case the movie is a huge hit.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:01 PM (eMKNe)
165
Warren Beatty is overrated.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 07, 2018 11:01 PM (peJQi)
166
The Ten Commandments is automatically disqualified because it was made before 1968, i.e., more than 50 years ago.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:02 PM (Cssks)
167
Strawdog said "the worst big budget movie". Not the same as a flop.
FWIW, I agree these are 2 very different things.
FWIW, I agree these are 2 very different things.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:02 PM (1lhwM)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:02 PM (eMKNe)
169
30 is there an over-under for when Hillz starts referring to herself as "President in Exile"?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM (2K6fY)
I can hear her warbling "Don't cry for me, California! "
30 is there an over-under for when Hillz starts referring to herself as "President in Exile"?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2018 10:14 PM (2K6fY)
I can hear her warbling "Don't cry for me, California! "
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 07, 2018 11:02 PM (e1mEI)
170
"Aren't lacy panties scratchy as hell?"
"I think they're intended to be removed ASAP."
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:58 PM (txw6d)
I wouldn't wear 'em.
"I think they're intended to be removed ASAP."
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 10:58 PM (txw6d)
I wouldn't wear 'em.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:03 PM (Ckg4U)
171
straw dog, true, it was a long time ago.
In 1956 The Ten Commandments had a huge budget for a movie... well, back then, $2 million was probably a huge budget for a movie.
Today you can't even make an "indie flick" for $2 million.
In 1956 The Ten Commandments had a huge budget for a movie... well, back then, $2 million was probably a huge budget for a movie.
Today you can't even make an "indie flick" for $2 million.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:03 PM (eMKNe)
172
Ringo was a fine/solid drummer and wrote the perfect parts for the songs he was working with.
Nigel Olsen and Russ Kunkel are two others in that same vein.
20 plus years ago I told Gary I was thinking about taking lessons to improve my stickv work.
He said "Don't. It'll ruin ya. Just hold on to that mindset you have when writing parts for my songs."
Posted by: teej at July 07, 2018 10:19 PM (Z7oqE)
Of the Beatles, alive and dead, Ringo is the only one I would really want to sit down and have a beer with.
Nigel Olsen and Russ Kunkel are two others in that same vein.
20 plus years ago I told Gary I was thinking about taking lessons to improve my stickv work.
He said "Don't. It'll ruin ya. Just hold on to that mindset you have when writing parts for my songs."
Posted by: teej at July 07, 2018 10:19 PM (Z7oqE)
Of the Beatles, alive and dead, Ringo is the only one I would really want to sit down and have a beer with.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:03 PM (a2xQ5)
173
even odds that Hillary tonight is drunk and bitching about losing the election. And Bill is afraid to tell her to clam up.
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:05
Odds are they are not even in the same zip code is my bet.
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:05
Odds are they are not even in the same zip code is my bet.
Posted by: Farmer at July 07, 2018 11:04 PM (yJ1e6)
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Hi WDS!
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:04 PM (txw6d)
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I want you to mark it on a calendar, post it in a frame, draw a pic, write about it, draw pretty pics on your walll and never, never forget it, so when you hit those really dark places you do, you can reach back, remember, and know it'll happen again. Now get to it, Mr. BC. July 7, 2018 was a very, very good day. 7-7-2018.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 10:25 PM (1lhwM)
What a nice thing say, gg!
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 10:25 PM (1lhwM)
What a nice thing say, gg!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:05 PM (a2xQ5)
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Quint, exactly. All the actors want a piece of the Executive Producer pie, just in case the movie is a huge hit.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:01 PM (eMKNe)
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I think the studios are nuts for allowing it. Working for shares is fine. Working for money is fine. Allowing an actor to demand a high salary *and* shares is insane to me.
I would actually like to see the "shares" model become more common, since the actors then have a strong interest to pick movies that will sell well and maybe try to be a bit more inoffensive to everyone outside the Hollywood bubble. If I were a producer, I would jump on it. "You get a million bucks for the movie, plus 5% of the net. You have enough to live a nice lifestyle in Hollywood, but you can buy a Bel-Air mansion if this movie pans out."
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:01 PM (eMKNe)
+++++++++++++
I think the studios are nuts for allowing it. Working for shares is fine. Working for money is fine. Allowing an actor to demand a high salary *and* shares is insane to me.
I would actually like to see the "shares" model become more common, since the actors then have a strong interest to pick movies that will sell well and maybe try to be a bit more inoffensive to everyone outside the Hollywood bubble. If I were a producer, I would jump on it. "You get a million bucks for the movie, plus 5% of the net. You have enough to live a nice lifestyle in Hollywood, but you can buy a Bel-Air mansion if this movie pans out."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 11:05 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:05 PM (Cssks)
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No panties or fancy filly thingys require, I want my woman naked when I go to get between the sheets. First kiss then smell armpits next lick nether parts. That produces low friction zone of delight.
Posted by: colfax mingo at July 07, 2018 11:06 PM (t78V7)
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Joe Mannix, exactamundo.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:07 PM (eMKNe)
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My entertainment tomorrow will be fixing my daughters brakes. Since her boyfriend has started and failed. I'm wondering what undoing his attempt will add to the time I will spend doing a 1/2 hour job.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:01 PM (Mxa6K)
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Wow, the daughters BF still has not gotten this resolved? Shit, how hard can this be for him?
Sounds like something he doesn't want to do, rather than something he can't do.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:01 PM (Mxa6K)
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Wow, the daughters BF still has not gotten this resolved? Shit, how hard can this be for him?
Sounds like something he doesn't want to do, rather than something he can't do.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:07 PM (Qjvy3)
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165 Warren Beatty is overrated.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 07, 2018 11:01 PM (peJQi)
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Perhaps. But, he has made some very good movies.
Reds
Bonnie & Clyde
The Parallax View
Heaven Can Wait
Bugsy
McCabe & Mrs. Miller
Bulworth
Acts, directs, writes, produces.
I'd say the guy has some talent.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 07, 2018 11:01 PM (peJQi)
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Perhaps. But, he has made some very good movies.
Reds
Bonnie & Clyde
The Parallax View
Heaven Can Wait
Bugsy
McCabe & Mrs. Miller
Bulworth
Acts, directs, writes, produces.
I'd say the guy has some talent.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2018 11:07 PM (1F9jV)
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I still like The 10 Commandments, despite agreeing that it is dated. Respectful religious pictures are almost a thing of the past. I can't imagine that movie being made respectfully today.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 07, 2018 11:07 PM (H5knJ)
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Chainsaws, and similar power tools are amazing, in that you or I can do, in less than a minute, what it took two strong men half a morning to do.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:01 PM (a2xQ5)
Growing up we had an off grid cabin. The chainsaw was the only time saving tool we had up there. Hand drilling metal to fix equipment is labor intensive. Also why old timers are always better at sharpening drill bit. Hell the are always better at sharpening anything.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:01 PM (a2xQ5)
Growing up we had an off grid cabin. The chainsaw was the only time saving tool we had up there. Hand drilling metal to fix equipment is labor intensive. Also why old timers are always better at sharpening drill bit. Hell the are always better at sharpening anything.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:08 PM (Mxa6K)
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>>>I wouldn't wear 'em
Slap, they wouldn't flatter you.
I don't wear them on special occasions. That way they don't go to waste. The idea of the blue lace panties is more important than the panties themselves.
Slap, they wouldn't flatter you.
I don't wear them on special occasions. That way they don't go to waste. The idea of the blue lace panties is more important than the panties themselves.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:09 PM (txw6d)
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Bear, good points.
There are still a few respectful religious pictures being made. Check out "The Case For Christ," which even got good reviews from, of all people, the reviewer at Rogerebert.com.
There are still a few respectful religious pictures being made. Check out "The Case For Christ," which even got good reviews from, of all people, the reviewer at Rogerebert.com.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:09 PM (eMKNe)
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"Slap, they wouldn't flatter you.
I don't wear them on special occasions. That way they don't go to waste. The idea of the blue lace panties is more important than the panties themselves."
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:09 PM (txw6d)
I was simply saying that my color is red.
I don't wear them on special occasions. That way they don't go to waste. The idea of the blue lace panties is more important than the panties themselves."
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:09 PM (txw6d)
I was simply saying that my color is red.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:10 PM (Ckg4U)
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Anon
McCabe & Mrs. Miller is one of my personal favorites. Altman clearly intended it to be a new, modern take on High Noon.
McCabe & Mrs. Miller is one of my personal favorites. Altman clearly intended it to be a new, modern take on High Noon.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:10 PM (Cssks)
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Anon Y. Mous, agreed about Beatty.
What about... Shampoo? ;-)
Supposedly it's the flick that got Carrie Fisher 'discovered.'
What about... Shampoo? ;-)
Supposedly it's the flick that got Carrie Fisher 'discovered.'
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:10 PM (eMKNe)
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Now that you mention it, I'm surprised Obama doesn't have a podium with a seal for the "Office of the Former President".
Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2018 10:28 PM (sdi6R)
How about "The Formerly Brothers"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrBcaaXlXrs
Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2018 10:28 PM (sdi6R)
How about "The Formerly Brothers"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrBcaaXlXrs
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:11 PM (a2xQ5)
Posted by: Fritz at July 07, 2018 11:12 PM (kf11g)
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even odds that Hillary tonight is drunk and bitching about losing the election. And Bill is afraid to tell her to clam up."""
I wonder why Bill answered the phone.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 10:09
LOL, we had the same idea.
I wonder why Bill answered the phone.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 10:09
LOL, we had the same idea.
Posted by: Farmer at July 07, 2018 11:12 PM (yJ1e6)
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Rickl, be careful.
Barack'll get a podium with a seal that reads "Office of the REAL President." :-P
Barack'll get a podium with a seal that reads "Office of the REAL President." :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:12 PM (eMKNe)
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The Passion of the Christ is a respectful religious film. It's also the most violent film I ever saw. By FAR.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:12 PM (Cssks)
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I was simply saying that my color is red.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:10 PM (Ckg4U)
So is mine!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:10 PM (Ckg4U)
So is mine!
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:12 PM (txw6d)
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Hat's off to Nachos!
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 07, 2018 11:13 PM (w+Jhj)
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Yeah, that was kind of the idea. People who balk at the idea of being outside in the upper midwest in the fall have never been tailgating. It's the best time of year IMO.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:00 PM
A-freaking-men. Tailgating and bonfires.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:00 PM
A-freaking-men. Tailgating and bonfires.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 11:13 PM (7A4qQ)
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I was simply saying that my color is red.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:10 PM (Ckg4U)
Lemme guess, and gray?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:10 PM (Ckg4U)
Lemme guess, and gray?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:13 PM (y87Qq)
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Heavens Gate (almost destroyed Michael Cimino' career)
Ishtar
Dune
Spielberg's 1941 (if I recall the title correctly)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:41 PM (KxbBq)
Those are all good choices. One universally panned movie that I liked was "The Razor's edge". It was basically Bill Murray's first attempt at a drama. It was not a "great film" but asked some good questions and the story was different. Better than some generic retread stories these days.
Ishtar
Dune
Spielberg's 1941 (if I recall the title correctly)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at July 07, 2018 10:41 PM (KxbBq)
Those are all good choices. One universally panned movie that I liked was "The Razor's edge". It was basically Bill Murray's first attempt at a drama. It was not a "great film" but asked some good questions and the story was different. Better than some generic retread stories these days.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 11:14 PM (n13/j)
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"So is mine!"
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:12 PM (txw6d)
Well, we have something in common; which is nice.
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:12 PM (txw6d)
Well, we have something in common; which is nice.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:14 PM (Ckg4U)
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Way to celebrate Nacho President Day:
- plate of nachos
- bottle of Sauza El Presidente tequila
...some assembly required
- plate of nachos
- bottle of Sauza El Presidente tequila
...some assembly required
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:15 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:15 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at July 07, 2018 11:15 PM (IcT7t)
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i'm pretty sure I've infected my room with spiders.
There's this thing with spiders and brooding. They wait until the hottest night post-spring and then splooge all the tiny spider babies into the air,right?
This is a biological fact because I woke up waving spider webs from damned face this morning. Leave the window open and bfffffffft, 100k spider babies in your little hovel room, yes? This is how it happens, no?
There's this thing with spiders and brooding. They wait until the hottest night post-spring and then splooge all the tiny spider babies into the air,right?
This is a biological fact because I woke up waving spider webs from damned face this morning. Leave the window open and bfffffffft, 100k spider babies in your little hovel room, yes? This is how it happens, no?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (zfrbv)
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"Wow, the daughters BF still has not gotten this resolved? Shit, how hard can this be for him?
Sounds like something he doesn't want to do, rather than something he can't do.
Posted by: Calm Mentor"
Sad to say, there are some guys out there that are mechanically inept.
Sounds like something he doesn't want to do, rather than something he can't do.
Posted by: Calm Mentor"
Sad to say, there are some guys out there that are mechanically inept.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (w+Jhj)
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80 On last night's ONT, 'round midnight, we started discussing "The Worst Big Budget Movie Ever Made" (modern era). These were what we came up with. I doubt we missed any, but perhaps we COULD'VE overlooked one or two?
alphabetical order:
Alexander
Empire of the Sun
The English Patient
Gable and Lombard
In Harm's Way
Kingdom of Heaven
Pearl Harbor
Remains of the Day
They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
Waterworld
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:32 PM (Cssks)
I think I saw Empire of the Sun, but I'm not certain. Is that the one about the kid who was captured by the Japanese in Singapore? If so, I didn't think it was too bad.
The only ones I know for sure I saw were Pearl Harbor and They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
In Pearl Harbor, there was one actress who looked rather fetching in a 1941 swimsuit, but the CGI dogfights were dreadful. It was a WWII movie for video game addicts.
"They Shoot Horses, Don't They?" was one of a whole string of depressing movies made in 1969-1970. Some others in that vein were "Midnight Cowboy", "Easy Rider", "Joe", "Five Easy Pieces", and I'm sure I'm forgetting some. They were all "Life sucks, you may as well just slit your wrists now." Might be an idea for a Movie Thread topic.
alphabetical order:
Alexander
Empire of the Sun
The English Patient
Gable and Lombard
In Harm's Way
Kingdom of Heaven
Pearl Harbor
Remains of the Day
They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
Waterworld
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:32 PM (Cssks)
I think I saw Empire of the Sun, but I'm not certain. Is that the one about the kid who was captured by the Japanese in Singapore? If so, I didn't think it was too bad.
The only ones I know for sure I saw were Pearl Harbor and They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
In Pearl Harbor, there was one actress who looked rather fetching in a 1941 swimsuit, but the CGI dogfights were dreadful. It was a WWII movie for video game addicts.
"They Shoot Horses, Don't They?" was one of a whole string of depressing movies made in 1969-1970. Some others in that vein were "Midnight Cowboy", "Easy Rider", "Joe", "Five Easy Pieces", and I'm sure I'm forgetting some. They were all "Life sucks, you may as well just slit your wrists now." Might be an idea for a Movie Thread topic.
Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (sdi6R)
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I think the studios are nuts for allowing it. Working for shares is fine. Working for money is fine. Allowing an actor to demand a high salary *and* shares is insane to me.
I would actually like to see the "shares" model become more common, since the actors then have a strong interest to pick movies that will sell well and maybe try to be a bit more inoffensive to everyone outside the Hollywood bubble. If I were a producer, I would jump on it. "You get a million bucks for the movie, plus 5% of the net. You have enough to live a nice lifestyle in Hollywood, but you can buy a Bel-Air mansion if this movie pans out."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 11:05 PM (hYcqw)
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This would make sense if Hollywood accounting practiced GAP (generally accepted principles) Accounting in determining their net on a given project. This is why the biggest stars, in their prime, demand a big payout up front as "gross points", like 2% of a movie's total take. That is measurable.
Once you get down to net points, every studio throws every expense imaginable and several that are unimaginable to screw the IRS and anyone who is below A grade actor working with net profit points.
I would actually like to see the "shares" model become more common, since the actors then have a strong interest to pick movies that will sell well and maybe try to be a bit more inoffensive to everyone outside the Hollywood bubble. If I were a producer, I would jump on it. "You get a million bucks for the movie, plus 5% of the net. You have enough to live a nice lifestyle in Hollywood, but you can buy a Bel-Air mansion if this movie pans out."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 11:05 PM (hYcqw)
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This would make sense if Hollywood accounting practiced GAP (generally accepted principles) Accounting in determining their net on a given project. This is why the biggest stars, in their prime, demand a big payout up front as "gross points", like 2% of a movie's total take. That is measurable.
Once you get down to net points, every studio throws every expense imaginable and several that are unimaginable to screw the IRS and anyone who is below A grade actor working with net profit points.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (Qjvy3)
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What about... Shampoo? ;-)
Supposedly it's the flick that got Carrie Fisher 'discovered.'
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:10 PM (eMKNe)
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I know I watched it years ago, but I don't remember much of it. I do recall thinking it was ok, but nothing special. I should probably give it another chance one of these days.
Supposedly it's the flick that got Carrie Fisher 'discovered.'
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:10 PM (eMKNe)
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I know I watched it years ago, but I don't remember much of it. I do recall thinking it was ok, but nothing special. I should probably give it another chance one of these days.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (1F9jV)
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"Lemme guess, and gray?"
-Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:13 PM (y87Qq)
So?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:15 PM (Ckg4U)
Well MY frilly lacy panties are GREEN AND WHITE YOU SON OF A BITCH
*breaks bottle on bar*
-Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:13 PM (y87Qq)
So?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:15 PM (Ckg4U)
Well MY frilly lacy panties are GREEN AND WHITE YOU SON OF A BITCH
*breaks bottle on bar*
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (y87Qq)
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On a happy note: Today is Nacho Day 606. It is 606 days that Hillary is nacho President!!!
What happens on September 5, 2018, which will be Nacho Day 666? Or for those with a different numerology, Nacho Day 616 (July 17th)? (A different title for Nero, and perhaps different number/letter pairs yields 616 as the Number of the Beast (which is the number of a man) vs. the conventionally assigned 666).
What happens on September 5, 2018, which will be Nacho Day 666? Or for those with a different numerology, Nacho Day 616 (July 17th)? (A different title for Nero, and perhaps different number/letter pairs yields 616 as the Number of the Beast (which is the number of a man) vs. the conventionally assigned 666).
Posted by: Fox2! at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (UQBWn)
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Acts, directs, writes, produces.
I'd say the guy has some talent.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2018 11:07 PM (1F9jV)
I agree. His sister, Shirley McClaine, also talented in her time.
Most of today's actors suck and are vapid, and can't hold a candle to Brit actors. I used to feel bad about saying that until a year ago, when Michael Douglas said the same thing, and gave all the reasons why it is true.
I'd say the guy has some talent.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2018 11:07 PM (1F9jV)
I agree. His sister, Shirley McClaine, also talented in her time.
Most of today's actors suck and are vapid, and can't hold a candle to Brit actors. I used to feel bad about saying that until a year ago, when Michael Douglas said the same thing, and gave all the reasons why it is true.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:17 PM (1lhwM)
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pompeo and the foreign ministers of japan and s. korea just held an informative press conference on the recent discussions with n. korea. it was broadcast by bbc news live - why didn't fox news or cnn run it? disgusting.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 07, 2018 11:17 PM (Pg+x7)
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...."This is how it happens, no?"
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (zfrbv)
If one answers to the name "Charlotte", then yes.
-Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (zfrbv)
If one answers to the name "Charlotte", then yes.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:17 PM (Ckg4U)
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Barack'll get a podium with a seal that reads "Office of the REAL President." :-P
How about "Fuhrer Emeritus"?
How about "Fuhrer Emeritus"?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at July 07, 2018 11:17 PM (IcT7t)
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Of the Beatles, alive and dead, Ringo is the only one I would really want to sit down and have a beer with.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:03 PM (a2xQ5)
Imagine there's no bar tabs
It's easy if you try...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:03 PM (a2xQ5)
Imagine there's no bar tabs
It's easy if you try...
Posted by: Zombie John Lennon at July 07, 2018 11:17 PM (hq7zy)
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Shampoo is another film I've always loved.
When the nerdy banker characterr asks the hairdresser (Beatty) about his collateral, the hairdresser says, "I do Lee Grant." The banker snickers!
Today, venture capitalists are not so obtuse, I think.
Lee Grant is in the cast of Shampoo, so it's an inside joke as well.
When the nerdy banker characterr asks the hairdresser (Beatty) about his collateral, the hairdresser says, "I do Lee Grant." The banker snickers!
Today, venture capitalists are not so obtuse, I think.
Lee Grant is in the cast of Shampoo, so it's an inside joke as well.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:18 PM (Cssks)
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I was simply saying that my color is red.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:10 PM (Ckg4U)
We have a lot in common, you weirdo!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:10 PM (Ckg4U)
We have a lot in common, you weirdo!
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:18 PM (txw6d)
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"Well MY frilly lacy panties are GREEN AND WHITE YOU SON OF A BITCH"
*breaks bottle on bar*
-Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (y87Qq)
This has gone too far.
*shoots hogmartin Indiana Jones style*
*breaks bottle on bar*
-Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (y87Qq)
This has gone too far.
*shoots hogmartin Indiana Jones style*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:18 PM (Ckg4U)
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Anon, yup, same here.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:19 PM (eMKNe)
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Growing up we had an off grid cabin. The chainsaw was the only time saving tool we had up there. Hand drilling metal to fix equipment is labor intensive. Also why old timers are always better at sharpening drill bit. Hell the are always better at sharpening anything.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:08 PM (Mxa6K)
When your cutting tool operates by muscle power alone, you damned sure want it sharp.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:08 PM (Mxa6K)
When your cutting tool operates by muscle power alone, you damned sure want it sharp.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:20 PM (a2xQ5)
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181: Meh. Of your list, the only one I really liked was Bugsy. McCabe and Mrs. Miller was,,,,odd. Good, but odd. Julie Christie was a hottie.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 07, 2018 11:20 PM (peJQi)
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Scrolling back up, seems the prioritized topics are movies and panties (or lackthereof).
An interesting topic for a future Movie Thread would be the history of "love"/sex/porn scenes in films.
Would be interesting to know the history of how we went from having actors just kiss and then show the implied "love scene" of a camera moving away from a bed and... what we have today where pretty much every actress has been topless in a movie and "love" scenes have turned into soft porn scenes.
An interesting topic for a future Movie Thread would be the history of "love"/sex/porn scenes in films.
Would be interesting to know the history of how we went from having actors just kiss and then show the implied "love scene" of a camera moving away from a bed and... what we have today where pretty much every actress has been topless in a movie and "love" scenes have turned into soft porn scenes.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 11:20 PM (7A4qQ)
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"Wow, the daughters BF still has not gotten this resolved? Shit, how hard can this be for him?
Sounds like something he doesn't want to do, rather than something he can't do.
Posted by: Calm Mentor"
It may be I'm enabling the situation since I'm letting them use one of my cars. So he feels no pressure to get the job done.
Sounds like something he doesn't want to do, rather than something he can't do.
Posted by: Calm Mentor"
It may be I'm enabling the situation since I'm letting them use one of my cars. So he feels no pressure to get the job done.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:20 PM (Mxa6K)
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"We have a lot in common, you weirdo!"
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:18 PM (txw6d)
*HAH!* ...of course we do. You'd have to talk to me on the phone sometime. I think we'd get along.
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:18 PM (txw6d)
*HAH!* ...of course we do. You'd have to talk to me on the phone sometime. I think we'd get along.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:20 PM (Ckg4U)
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*shoots hogmartin Indiana Jones style*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:18 PM (Ckg4U)
Harsh, but fair.
Brat?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:18 PM (Ckg4U)
Harsh, but fair.
Brat?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (y87Qq)
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rickl
Yes, that was Empire of the Sun. I understand it bored the tits off the Statue of Liberty.
Yes, that was Empire of the Sun. I understand it bored the tits off the Statue of Liberty.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (Cssks)
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A movie is something you check your brain in at the door, and just get entertained for an hour or so.
A film is something that captures you and makes you think about what it portrays.
Posted by: irongrampa
Heh. I like horror movies and ghost stories. You don't want to think about them too much because the characters' behavior is dumb beyond belief. As in,
1. they go into the dark, scary basement, woods, icky barn, whatever
2. THEY DON'T MOVE OUT OF THE HAUNTED HOUSE!
I love movies like that. The best horror movie for stupid characters was The Haunted in Connecticut.
A film is something that captures you and makes you think about what it portrays.
Posted by: irongrampa
Heh. I like horror movies and ghost stories. You don't want to think about them too much because the characters' behavior is dumb beyond belief. As in,
1. they go into the dark, scary basement, woods, icky barn, whatever
2. THEY DON'T MOVE OUT OF THE HAUNTED HOUSE!
I love movies like that. The best horror movie for stupid characters was The Haunted in Connecticut.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (+lVUW)
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So, I walk out this morning to run an errand, and this is what I find:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9empnpt
And, before you ask, yes....yes I did have to wash the truck.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9empnpt
And, before you ask, yes....yes I did have to wash the truck.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (/lkI0)
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His sister, Shirley McClaine, also talented in her time.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:17 PM (1lhwM)
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Definitely. She was good back in the day when she was a looker, and remained good after she had aged. She also aged gracefully. If she had plastic surgery, it was done well enough that I never noticed it.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:17 PM (1lhwM)
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Definitely. She was good back in the day when she was a looker, and remained good after she had aged. She also aged gracefully. If she had plastic surgery, it was done well enough that I never noticed it.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (1F9jV)
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..."Brat?"
-Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (y87Qq)
I've already got some made. Mustard and onions?
-Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (y87Qq)
I've already got some made. Mustard and onions?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:22 PM (Ckg4U)
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This would make sense if Hollywood accounting practiced GAP (generally accepted principles) Accounting in determining their net on a given project. This is why the biggest stars, in their prime, demand a big payout up front as "gross points", like 2% of a movie's total take. That is measurable.
Once you get down to net points, every studio throws every expense imaginable and several that are unimaginable to screw the IRS and anyone who is below A grade actor working with net profit points.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (Qjvy3)
+++++++++++
Hey, non-GAAP/ex-(all bad)-items "earnings" is all you'll see reported in the business press, especially (though certainly not exclusively) out of Silicon Valley unicorns. That ain't just a Hollywood problem. To get the "real numbers" - assuming, of course, that GAAP is real - you have to dig into the fine print of the SEC filings.
Lying is embraced and rose-colored glasses are mandatory when it comes to reported earnings.
Once you get down to net points, every studio throws every expense imaginable and several that are unimaginable to screw the IRS and anyone who is below A grade actor working with net profit points.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (Qjvy3)
+++++++++++
Hey, non-GAAP/ex-(all bad)-items "earnings" is all you'll see reported in the business press, especially (though certainly not exclusively) out of Silicon Valley unicorns. That ain't just a Hollywood problem. To get the "real numbers" - assuming, of course, that GAAP is real - you have to dig into the fine print of the SEC filings.
Lying is embraced and rose-colored glasses are mandatory when it comes to reported earnings.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 11:22 PM (hYcqw)
231
So I am assuming big-budget summer-movie types are
off the list, like say, Transformers: Age of Extinction" It cost a
fortune and sucks, but it didn't fail.
The recent "Solo" might belong on the list. It might take down the entire studio through its awfulness.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:44 PM (hYcqw)
I have never heard anyone say a good thing about Armageddon. It was big budget for sure, it has had to have made a bundle by know, and it is on cable a hundred times a year. Yet no one admits to liking it. . It might be in a category of one there.
off the list, like say, Transformers: Age of Extinction" It cost a
fortune and sucks, but it didn't fail.
The recent "Solo" might belong on the list. It might take down the entire studio through its awfulness.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 10:44 PM (hYcqw)
I have never heard anyone say a good thing about Armageddon. It was big budget for sure, it has had to have made a bundle by know, and it is on cable a hundred times a year. Yet no one admits to liking it. . It might be in a category of one there.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 11:23 PM (n13/j)
232
So, I walk out this morning to run an errand, and this is what I find:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9empnpt
And, before you ask, yes....yes I did have to wash the truck.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (/lkI0)
Tough crowd.
How did you get them to move off?
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9empnpt
And, before you ask, yes....yes I did have to wash the truck.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (/lkI0)
Tough crowd.
How did you get them to move off?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:23 PM (y87Qq)
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And, before you ask, yes....yes I did have to wash the truck.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (/lkI0)
But Thanksgiving dinner is in the freezer, i hope?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (/lkI0)
But Thanksgiving dinner is in the freezer, i hope?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:23 PM (a2xQ5)
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I love movies like that. The best horror movie for stupid characters was The Haunted in Connecticut.
Posted by: nerdygirl
Have you seen Ghost Stories with Martin Freeman? Apparently a throw-back Hammer/British horror flick.
Posted by: nerdygirl
Have you seen Ghost Stories with Martin Freeman? Apparently a throw-back Hammer/British horror flick.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 07, 2018 11:23 PM (zfrbv)
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I've already got some made. Mustard and onions?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:22 PM (Ckg4U)
Thanks, bro.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:22 PM (Ckg4U)
Thanks, bro.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:24 PM (y87Qq)
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The joke about the weather-forecasting donkey is funny. But the ass as the symbol of the Democratic Party comes from Thomas Nast, who took it from AEsop's fable about the donkey that tried to hurl itself off a cliff. Which is a pretty accurate description of the Democratic Party in our day.
Posted by: Brown Line at July 07, 2018 11:24 PM (S6ArX)
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:24 PM (Cssks)
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*HAH!* ...of course we do. You'd have to talk to me on the phone sometime. I think we'd get along.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:20 PM (Ckg4U)
It would be a good back-and-forth.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:20 PM (Ckg4U)
It would be a good back-and-forth.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:24 PM (txw6d)
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Been watching The Cars That Made America on Discovery. Commentary is occasionally interesting, but the compendium of cars over time stirs memories of much better, simpler times.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:24 PM (/lkI0)
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"So, I walk out this morning to run an errand, and this is what I find:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9empnpt
And, before you ask, yes....yes I did have to wash the truck."
-Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (/lkI0)
WOW! A whole freaking brood. I've only seen one in N.E. Ohio and it scared the shit out of me... lol. It was simply yuuge.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9empnpt
And, before you ask, yes....yes I did have to wash the truck."
-Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (/lkI0)
WOW! A whole freaking brood. I've only seen one in N.E. Ohio and it scared the shit out of me... lol. It was simply yuuge.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:24 PM (Ckg4U)
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It may be I'm enabling the situation since I'm letting them use one of my cars. So he feels no pressure to get the job done.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:20 PM (Mxa6K)
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Ah, so easy fix then. Have them pick you up in said car, go show him how to fix brakes....again...and drive home in that loaner car.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:20 PM (Mxa6K)
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Ah, so easy fix then. Have them pick you up in said car, go show him how to fix brakes....again...and drive home in that loaner car.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:25 PM (Qjvy3)
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I have never heard anyone say a good thing about Armageddon. It was big budget for sure, it has had to have made a bundle by know, and it is on cable a hundred times a year. Yet no one admits to liking it. . It might be in a category of one there.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 11:23 PM (n13/j)
+++++++++
It is what it is, which is a good-for-its-genre summer action flick. I'll watch it if it pops up while channel surfing. The movie president's address to the nation about the impending destruction of the planet is well written and well delivered (as was the movie president's speech in Independence Day).
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 11:23 PM (n13/j)
+++++++++
It is what it is, which is a good-for-its-genre summer action flick. I'll watch it if it pops up while channel surfing. The movie president's address to the nation about the impending destruction of the planet is well written and well delivered (as was the movie president's speech in Independence Day).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 11:25 PM (hYcqw)
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sb "studios started"
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:25 PM (Cssks)
244
again, led zeppelin was just a terrible live band.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 07, 2018 11:25 PM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:25 PM (Ckg4U)
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Mike Hammer: looks like Thanksgiving came early... ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 11:25 PM (eMKNe)
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"It would be a good back-and-forth."
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:24 PM (txw6d)
Better than a coin-toss that that (stutterer) is probably true.
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:24 PM (txw6d)
Better than a coin-toss that that (stutterer) is probably true.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:26 PM (Ckg4U)
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The studies started doing that before D.W. Griffith was born.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:24 PM (Cssks)
++++++++++
That I didn't know. I will admit to being a novice in the study of the history of Hollywood Accounting.
Speaking of which, I saw Hollywood Accounting perform at a Blockbuster store opening in '88.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:24 PM (Cssks)
++++++++++
That I didn't know. I will admit to being a novice in the study of the history of Hollywood Accounting.
Speaking of which, I saw Hollywood Accounting perform at a Blockbuster store opening in '88.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 11:27 PM (hYcqw)
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It may be I'm enabling the situation since I'm letting them use one of my cars. So he feels no pressure to get the job done.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:20 PM (Mxa6K)
As I skim, this story is blending in my mind with the picture of Mike Hammer's truck and I'm pretty much cool with that.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:20 PM (Mxa6K)
As I skim, this story is blending in my mind with the picture of Mike Hammer's truck and I'm pretty much cool with that.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:28 PM (y87Qq)
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I have never heard anyone say a good thing about Armageddon. It was big budget for sure, it has had to have made a bundle by know, and it is on cable a hundred times a year. Yet no one admits to liking it. . It might be in a category of one there.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 11:23 PM (n13/j)
My sister's swooned at the love story of that movie. They would watch it all the time. I never saw more than 5-10 minutes of it at a time. It's an action/disaster movie for chicks.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 11:23 PM (n13/j)
My sister's swooned at the love story of that movie. They would watch it all the time. I never saw more than 5-10 minutes of it at a time. It's an action/disaster movie for chicks.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 07, 2018 11:28 PM (ynAYf)
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But Thanksgiving dinner is in the freezer, i hope?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I couldn't take those poor little baby's mama. Actually, there were two more hens in the driveway.
So, you can view Photobucket now?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I couldn't take those poor little baby's mama. Actually, there were two more hens in the driveway.
So, you can view Photobucket now?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:28 PM (R+Cqa)
252
Not following, but I'm tired...
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:28 PM (txw6d)
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227 So, I walk out this morning to run an errand, and this is what I find:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9empnpt
And, before you ask, yes....yes I did have to wash the truck.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (/lkI0)
That is quite a spectacle.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9empnpt
And, before you ask, yes....yes I did have to wash the truck.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (/lkI0)
That is quite a spectacle.
Posted by: Emmie at July 07, 2018 11:29 PM (/A+Cl)
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Currently watching "Night Will Fall" on Netflix. It's a documentary on the British experience liberating concentration camps. If I hadn't seen this stuff in grade school I'd be having nightmares.
Wonder if they still show this stuff to kids today, doubt it.
And that brings up the complete audacity to compare Trump and supporters to Nazis. Have any of those idiots that say that seen what the Nazis really did?
Wonder if they still show this stuff to kids today, doubt it.
And that brings up the complete audacity to compare Trump and supporters to Nazis. Have any of those idiots that say that seen what the Nazis really did?
Posted by: Farmer at July 07, 2018 11:29 PM (yJ1e6)
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again, led zeppelin was just a terrible live band.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 07, 2018 11:25 PM (Pg+x7)
I will fight you if you do not take those words back.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 07, 2018 11:25 PM (Pg+x7)
I will fight you if you do not take those words back.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 07, 2018 11:29 PM (hq7zy)
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"Not following, but I'm tired stoned..."
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:28 PM (txw6d)
Fix'd.
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:28 PM (txw6d)
Fix'd.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:30 PM (Ckg4U)
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Mannix
Mel Brooks said that the motto of the film distributor which released "The Producers" was, "We make the money. You try to find it."
Mel Brooks said that the motto of the film distributor which released "The Producers" was, "We make the money. You try to find it."
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:30 PM (Cssks)
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Ah, so easy fix then. Have them pick you up in said car, go show him how to fix brakes....again...and drive home in that loaner car.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:25 PM (Qjvy3)
He's got the kids car partially taken apart. As he has done before since all this would be easier in my garage. But the deal tomorrow is the kid will pick me up. I will fix hers and drive my spare car home.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:25 PM (Qjvy3)
He's got the kids car partially taken apart. As he has done before since all this would be easier in my garage. But the deal tomorrow is the kid will pick me up. I will fix hers and drive my spare car home.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:30 PM (Mxa6K)
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So, you can view Photobucket now?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:28 PM (R+Cqa)
Yes, using Brave now.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:28 PM (R+Cqa)
Yes, using Brave now.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:31 PM (a2xQ5)
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:31 PM (txw6d)
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I have never heard anyone say a good thing about Armageddon
I'll miss you babe. and I don't wanna miss a thing.
I'll miss you babe. and I don't wanna miss a thing.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 07, 2018 11:31 PM (6FqZa)
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So, I walk out this morning to run an errand, and this is what I find:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9empnpt
And, before you ask, yes....yes I did have to wash the truck.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (/lkI0)
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Can't tell by the pic.....are those actual turkeys or turkey buzzards?
We have both around, as they have interbred. Real Turkey, Thanksgiving dinner. Turkey buzzard? Same as a real buzzard. Trash and carrion eater, not fit for human consumption.
Drag is, you have to get within about 30 feet to see the differences.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9empnpt
And, before you ask, yes....yes I did have to wash the truck.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (/lkI0)
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Can't tell by the pic.....are those actual turkeys or turkey buzzards?
We have both around, as they have interbred. Real Turkey, Thanksgiving dinner. Turkey buzzard? Same as a real buzzard. Trash and carrion eater, not fit for human consumption.
Drag is, you have to get within about 30 feet to see the differences.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:32 PM (Qjvy3)
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I'd watch a version of Armageddon edited down for the Steve Buscemi and Michael Clarke Duncan scenes. No patience for the John McClane/Ben Affleck/Arwen scenes at all.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:32 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:32 PM (R+Cqa)
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I have never heard anyone say a good thing about Armageddon
I'll miss you babe. and I don't wanna miss a thing.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 07, 2018 11:31 PM (6FqZa)
Armageddon sick of all these bullshit disaster movies.
I'll miss you babe. and I don't wanna miss a thing.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 07, 2018 11:31 PM (6FqZa)
Armageddon sick of all these bullshit disaster movies.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:32 PM (a2xQ5)
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I thought "Titanic" was a horrible movie. I hated it with a passion.
1. Little Leo looked like he was about 14 years old. He didn't belong with Kate.
2. That diamond being cut into a heart shape was stupid and childish.
3. Little Leo spent most of the movie running around a sinking ship and didn't have the brains to put on a life jacket.
4. Rich people evil. Poor people good. Doesn't get move simplistic.
5. It would have been a happy ending if Billy Zane had been a better shot.
1. Little Leo looked like he was about 14 years old. He didn't belong with Kate.
2. That diamond being cut into a heart shape was stupid and childish.
3. Little Leo spent most of the movie running around a sinking ship and didn't have the brains to put on a life jacket.
4. Rich people evil. Poor people good. Doesn't get move simplistic.
5. It would have been a happy ending if Billy Zane had been a better shot.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 11:32 PM (+lVUW)
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which reminds me of the one about the time the king summoned his knight to go on a mission but there was a terrible storm and all the horses were spooked. but the night said "i will find a horse to go on the mission" and he went to the stables but all the horses were neighing and kicking at the lightening and thunder so the knight took the big saint bernard dog. and he went to the king and said "i have saddled this saint bernard to go on the mission, your highness". but the king said "oh knight, i would never send out a knight on a dog like this!"
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 07, 2018 11:32 PM (Pg+x7)
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I know I watched it years ago, but I don't remember much of it. I do recall thinking it was ok, but nothing special. I should probably give it another chance one of these days.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (1F9jV)
A lot of movies, like Shampoo, are huge deals bcz they are 'new', 'different', from what came before. That's why they don't hold up in later generations.
I remember when I first saw "Saturday Night Fever", and was like, why is this such a big deal? Why did everyone slobber all over it? Well, at the time it was a new kind of scene (disco) and film-making, etc. But today? If it was made today? There is nothing extraordinary about it, IMO.
That's why so many films/movies are misunderstood or not judged correctly. You can only understand if you judge them in context of their time period, and where movie making was cinematically at that time, and yadda, yadda, yadda.
It's like people who are judging our Forefathers by today's mores. Or judging people from the 1800s or 1900s by today's standards. Context is so important with so many things. Without context, one's understanding and judgement is often wrong.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2018 11:16 PM (1F9jV)
A lot of movies, like Shampoo, are huge deals bcz they are 'new', 'different', from what came before. That's why they don't hold up in later generations.
I remember when I first saw "Saturday Night Fever", and was like, why is this such a big deal? Why did everyone slobber all over it? Well, at the time it was a new kind of scene (disco) and film-making, etc. But today? If it was made today? There is nothing extraordinary about it, IMO.
That's why so many films/movies are misunderstood or not judged correctly. You can only understand if you judge them in context of their time period, and where movie making was cinematically at that time, and yadda, yadda, yadda.
It's like people who are judging our Forefathers by today's mores. Or judging people from the 1800s or 1900s by today's standards. Context is so important with so many things. Without context, one's understanding and judgement is often wrong.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:32 PM (1lhwM)
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..."And that brings up the complete audacity to compare Trump and supporters to Nazis. Have any of those idiots that say that seen what the Nazis really did?"
-Posted by: Farmer at July 07, 2018 11:29 PM (yJ1e6)
I've heard from a teacher that they teach about "Right-Wing Nazi" atrocities, but don't speak ill of Communism.
Public schools are Brain Washing Machines.
-Posted by: Farmer at July 07, 2018 11:29 PM (yJ1e6)
I've heard from a teacher that they teach about "Right-Wing Nazi" atrocities, but don't speak ill of Communism.
Public schools are Brain Washing Machines.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:33 PM (Ckg4U)
270
... hummmina hummmina.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 07, 2018 11:33 PM (Pg+x7)
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We have both around, as they have interbred. Real Turkey, Thanksgiving dinner. Turkey buzzard? Same as a real buzzard. Trash and carrion eater, not fit for human consumption.
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Turkey.
We have both around, as they have interbred. Real Turkey, Thanksgiving dinner. Turkey buzzard? Same as a real buzzard. Trash and carrion eater, not fit for human consumption.
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Turkey.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:33 PM (I83yK)
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:34 PM (y87Qq)
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As I skim, this story is blending in my mind with the picture of Mike Hammer's truck and I'm pretty much cool with that.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:28 PM (y87Qq)
Well he does appear to be fried sometimes.
here should be a winking smileyface if I knew how to do that.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:28 PM (y87Qq)
Well he does appear to be fried sometimes.
here should be a winking smileyface if I knew how to do that.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:34 PM (Mxa6K)
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"OK, I'll cop to that."
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:31 PM (txw6d)
Hey... Lesbian Weed is hard to resist.
-Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:31 PM (txw6d)
Hey... Lesbian Weed is hard to resist.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:34 PM (Ckg4U)
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1. Little Leo looked like he was about 14 years old. He didn't belong with Kate.
We beg to differ!
We beg to differ!
Posted by: public school teachers at July 07, 2018 11:35 PM (6FqZa)
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In Pearl Harbor, there was one actress who looked rather fetching in a 1941 swimsuit, but the CGI dogfights were dreadful. It was a WWII movie for video game addicts.
We talked about this sometime recently. In the 60s and even early 70s there was still leftover kit from WWII that worked, so they made the movies with real planes.
And now for something completely different: the Thai cave thing.
It's hard to tell exactly, but it seems like the Thais are going to take the Elon Musk solution, which sounds ingenious.
They're taking a part of a rocket ship and turning it into basically a rugged air bladder to put the kids in. The stories say "submarine" but it's not rigid. They're taking the liquid oxygen bladders from a Space X rocket, attaching handles and nozzles for feeding in more O2.
So the kids don't have to swim. Two divers will have fore and aft of this device and drag them through.
Musk is tweeting that the Thais like it and he's assembling the devices but there's no official confirmation that that's going to be the approach. Something is about to happen, they're clearing the media out of the area.
We talked about this sometime recently. In the 60s and even early 70s there was still leftover kit from WWII that worked, so they made the movies with real planes.
And now for something completely different: the Thai cave thing.
It's hard to tell exactly, but it seems like the Thais are going to take the Elon Musk solution, which sounds ingenious.
They're taking a part of a rocket ship and turning it into basically a rugged air bladder to put the kids in. The stories say "submarine" but it's not rigid. They're taking the liquid oxygen bladders from a Space X rocket, attaching handles and nozzles for feeding in more O2.
So the kids don't have to swim. Two divers will have fore and aft of this device and drag them through.
Musk is tweeting that the Thais like it and he's assembling the devices but there's no official confirmation that that's going to be the approach. Something is about to happen, they're clearing the media out of the area.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:35 PM (fuK7c)
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"pompeo and the foreign ministers of japan and s.
korea just held an informative press conference on the recent
discussions with n. korea. it was broadcast by bbc news live - why
didn't fox news or cnn run it? disgusting.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp"
It was on Fox here and I watched it. About half hour ago?
korea just held an informative press conference on the recent
discussions with n. korea. it was broadcast by bbc news live - why
didn't fox news or cnn run it? disgusting.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp"
It was on Fox here and I watched it. About half hour ago?
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 07, 2018 11:35 PM (w+Jhj)
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That Zeppelin clip was a hot mess of dog shit
Posted by: Ben Wa at July 07, 2018 11:35 PM (FTPVM)
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261 I have never heard anyone say a good thing about Armageddon
I'll miss you babe. and I don't wanna miss a thing.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 07, 2018 11:31 PM
I used to actually like that movie. Because of the song you mention (Aerosmith is my all-time favorite band) and because I had a crush on Liv Tyler.
But, the older I have gotten, the more I just can't stand the cheesy 'love' story with Afleck and Tyler.
But I do appreciate the comedy of Steve Buscemi, Owen Wilson and Ken Hudson Campbell (liked him when I first saw him a short-run TV show "Herman's Head").
I'll miss you babe. and I don't wanna miss a thing.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 07, 2018 11:31 PM
I used to actually like that movie. Because of the song you mention (Aerosmith is my all-time favorite band) and because I had a crush on Liv Tyler.
But, the older I have gotten, the more I just can't stand the cheesy 'love' story with Afleck and Tyler.
But I do appreciate the comedy of Steve Buscemi, Owen Wilson and Ken Hudson Campbell (liked him when I first saw him a short-run TV show "Herman's Head").
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 11:36 PM (7A4qQ)
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ANY film Barbra Streisand got within 300 yards of is probably worthy of consideration for the list.
I would except only The Owl and the Pussycat, which was funny.
I would except only The Owl and the Pussycat, which was funny.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:36 PM (Cssks)
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""So, I walk out this morning to run an errand, and this is what I find:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9empnpt
And, before you ask, yes....yes I did have to wash the truck."
-Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc."
The jokes write themselves....
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9empnpt
And, before you ask, yes....yes I did have to wash the truck."
-Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc."
The jokes write themselves....
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 07, 2018 11:36 PM (w+Jhj)
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266
I thought "Titanic" was a horrible movie. I hated it with a passion.
1. Little Leo looked like he was about 14 years old. He didn't belong with Kate.
2. That diamond being cut into a heart shape was stupid and childish.
3. Little Leo spent most of the movie running around a sinking ship and didn't have the brains to put on a life jacket.
4. Rich people evil. Poor people good. Doesn't get move simplistic.
5. It would have been a happy ending if Billy Zane had been a better shot.
Posted by: nerdygirl
I have an undying hatred for that movie. Easily the worst Oscar winner ever. The only redeeming values it had were the ship sinking (well done, overall), Leo dying (would have preferred him getting raped to death by an Orca but whatever), and Kate's impressive boobies.
I thought "Titanic" was a horrible movie. I hated it with a passion.
1. Little Leo looked like he was about 14 years old. He didn't belong with Kate.
2. That diamond being cut into a heart shape was stupid and childish.
3. Little Leo spent most of the movie running around a sinking ship and didn't have the brains to put on a life jacket.
4. Rich people evil. Poor people good. Doesn't get move simplistic.
5. It would have been a happy ending if Billy Zane had been a better shot.
Posted by: nerdygirl
I have an undying hatred for that movie. Easily the worst Oscar winner ever. The only redeeming values it had were the ship sinking (well done, overall), Leo dying (would have preferred him getting raped to death by an Orca but whatever), and Kate's impressive boobies.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 07, 2018 11:37 PM (peJQi)
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which reminds me of the one about the time the king summoned his knight to go on a mission...
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 07, 2018 11:32 PM (Pg+x7)
Or the yid who's about to be knighted around Passover time, but he forgets what he's supposed to say and stammers "Ma nishtanah, ha-laylah ha-zeh,
mi-kol ha-leylot".
...and the Queen turns to her aide and says "why is this knight different from all other knights?"
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 07, 2018 11:32 PM (Pg+x7)
Or the yid who's about to be knighted around Passover time, but he forgets what he's supposed to say and stammers "Ma nishtanah, ha-laylah ha-zeh,
mi-kol ha-leylot".
...and the Queen turns to her aide and says "why is this knight different from all other knights?"
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:38 PM (y87Qq)
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Hey... Lesbian Weed is hard to resist.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:34 PM (Ckg4U)
Yeah, they got me wicked high. Indica makes me sleepy. I prefer a good sativa.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:34 PM (Ckg4U)
Yeah, they got me wicked high. Indica makes me sleepy. I prefer a good sativa.
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess of the Super Elite at July 07, 2018 11:38 PM (txw6d)
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So the kids don't have to swim. Two divers will have fore and aft of this device and drag them through.
Musk is tweeting that the Thais like it and he's assembling the devices but there's no official confirmation that that's going to be the approach. Something is about to happen, they're clearing the media out of the area.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:35 PM (fuK7c)
This cave cannot be all that deep. Why not set up a drilling rig over the chamber where the kids are trapped, and drill a 12" pilot hole, and follow it up with an 18 hole opener? Should take only a matter of hours. Then lower a bosun's chair, and hoist the little bastards out, one by one.
Musk is tweeting that the Thais like it and he's assembling the devices but there's no official confirmation that that's going to be the approach. Something is about to happen, they're clearing the media out of the area.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:35 PM (fuK7c)
This cave cannot be all that deep. Why not set up a drilling rig over the chamber where the kids are trapped, and drill a 12" pilot hole, and follow it up with an 18 hole opener? Should take only a matter of hours. Then lower a bosun's chair, and hoist the little bastards out, one by one.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:38 PM (a2xQ5)
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Those are all good choices. One universally panned movie that I liked was "The Razor's edge". It was basically Bill Murray's first attempt at a drama. It was not a "great film" but asked some good questions and the story was different. Better than some generic retread stories these days.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 11:14 PM (n13/j)
I am not positive on this, but I think this was a remake of a movie made 2 times before, from a book by the same name. I coulda googled first, but I went with guessing and being wrong. Which I probably am. Not sure the previous movies went by the same name.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 11:14 PM (n13/j)
I am not positive on this, but I think this was a remake of a movie made 2 times before, from a book by the same name. I coulda googled first, but I went with guessing and being wrong. Which I probably am. Not sure the previous movies went by the same name.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:39 PM (1lhwM)
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Owen Wilson and Ken Hudson Campbell
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 11:36 PM (7A4qQ)
I completely forgot those two were in it, too.
OK, they can stay with Steve Buscemi and Michael Clarke Duncan and Peter Stormare. Everybody else get out.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 11:36 PM (7A4qQ)
I completely forgot those two were in it, too.
OK, they can stay with Steve Buscemi and Michael Clarke Duncan and Peter Stormare. Everybody else get out.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:40 PM (y87Qq)
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Oh gotta mention:
The leftist douchebag Hollywood blogger I've told you all about, Jeffrey Wells?
He says he HATES, with a passion, The Deer Hunter. And why, you might ask?
Because he believes those characters, IF THEY WERE REAL PEOPLE, would be Trump supporters.
Good fcuking grief.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:52 PM (eMKNe)
well he is right. If the Trump campaign was not aimed at small town PA, I don't know where it was aimed.
The leftist douchebag Hollywood blogger I've told you all about, Jeffrey Wells?
He says he HATES, with a passion, The Deer Hunter. And why, you might ask?
Because he believes those characters, IF THEY WERE REAL PEOPLE, would be Trump supporters.
Good fcuking grief.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 07, 2018 10:52 PM (eMKNe)
well he is right. If the Trump campaign was not aimed at small town PA, I don't know where it was aimed.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 11:40 PM (n13/j)
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That's why so many films/movies are misunderstood or not judged correctly. You can only understand if you judge them in context of their time period, and where movie making was cinematically at that time, and yadda, yadda, yadda.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:32 PM (1lhwM)
++++
Yup. I saw Blade Runner in the theater back in 82 during it's initial run. It was phenomenal. Visually, the soundtrack, film noir set in the future, etc. I was blown away. But since then, there have been multitudes of movies that have ripped off every aspect of it. Someone seeing it today for the very first time isn't going to be seeing all that new, innovative stuff that I saw.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:32 PM (1lhwM)
++++
Yup. I saw Blade Runner in the theater back in 82 during it's initial run. It was phenomenal. Visually, the soundtrack, film noir set in the future, etc. I was blown away. But since then, there have been multitudes of movies that have ripped off every aspect of it. Someone seeing it today for the very first time isn't going to be seeing all that new, innovative stuff that I saw.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 07, 2018 11:40 PM (1F9jV)
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:41 PM (Cssks)
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Soothsayer okay?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 07, 2018 11:42 PM (6FqZa)
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They're taking a part of a rocket ship and turning it into basically a rugged air bladder to put the kids in. The stories say "submarine" but it's not rigid.-----
I saw the headlines of submarine and thought what a maroon. this makes more sense but more complex than it needs to be with 2 guide divers.
I saw the headlines of submarine and thought what a maroon. this makes more sense but more complex than it needs to be with 2 guide divers.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:42 PM (Mxa6K)
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And now for something completely different: the Thai cave thing.
It's hard to tell exactly, but it seems like the Thais are going to take the Elon Musk solution, which sounds ingenious.
They're taking a part of a rocket ship and turning it into basically a rugged air bladder to put the kids in. The stories say "submarine" but it's not rigid. They're taking the liquid oxygen bladders from a Space X rocket, attaching handles and nozzles for feeding in more O2.
So the kids don't have to swim. Two divers will have fore and aft of this device and drag them through.
Musk is tweeting that the Thais like it and he's assembling the devices but there's no official confirmation that that's going to be the approach. Something is about to happen, they're clearing the media out of the area.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:35 PM (fuK7c)
------------
I am absolutely not a fan of the .Gov rent seeker Musk, but if he can pull this off successfully, major, major cred as far as I am concerned.
It's hard to tell exactly, but it seems like the Thais are going to take the Elon Musk solution, which sounds ingenious.
They're taking a part of a rocket ship and turning it into basically a rugged air bladder to put the kids in. The stories say "submarine" but it's not rigid. They're taking the liquid oxygen bladders from a Space X rocket, attaching handles and nozzles for feeding in more O2.
So the kids don't have to swim. Two divers will have fore and aft of this device and drag them through.
Musk is tweeting that the Thais like it and he's assembling the devices but there's no official confirmation that that's going to be the approach. Something is about to happen, they're clearing the media out of the area.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:35 PM (fuK7c)
------------
I am absolutely not a fan of the .Gov rent seeker Musk, but if he can pull this off successfully, major, major cred as far as I am concerned.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:42 PM (Qjvy3)
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Shampoo holds up beautifully, imo. Beautifully!
What did you want, more car chases?
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:41 PM (Cssks)
Kinda hard to sell Sham poo, when the real thing can be had for free on the streets of San Francisco.
What did you want, more car chases?
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:41 PM (Cssks)
Kinda hard to sell Sham poo, when the real thing can be had for free on the streets of San Francisco.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:42 PM (a2xQ5)
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Two half-gallon mason jars filled with pepper mash and salt have resided beneath the sink for two years. Gonna make pepper sauce from one this fall ala-Tabasco and one next year.
Hello, horde.
Hello, horde.
Posted by: Cicero kaboom kid at July 07, 2018 11:43 PM (LU5wv)
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"This cave cannot be all that deep. Why not set up a
drilling rig over the chamber where the kids are trapped, and drill a
12" pilot hole, and follow it up with an 18 hole opener? Should take
only a matter of hours. Then lower a bosun's chair, and hoist the little
bastards out, one by one.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon"
It's under a mountain.
drilling rig over the chamber where the kids are trapped, and drill a
12" pilot hole, and follow it up with an 18 hole opener? Should take
only a matter of hours. Then lower a bosun's chair, and hoist the little
bastards out, one by one.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon"
It's under a mountain.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 07, 2018 11:44 PM (w+Jhj)
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The jokes write themselves....
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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It's actually cool outside. Weird. 66 deg.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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It's actually cool outside. Weird. 66 deg.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 07, 2018 11:44 PM (sd+O2)
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I watched it too. They need to make a Tabasco 2, Electric bugalloo. They could do a whole thing on tabasco MRE's. Got a lot of people through the bad MRE days.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 11:45 PM (n13/j)
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This cave cannot be all that deep. Why not set up a drilling rig over the chamber where the kids are trapped, and drill a 12" pilot hole, and follow it up with an 18 hole opener? Should take only a matter of hours. Then lower a bosun's chair, and hoist the little bastards out, one by one.
Limited information, but...I think they've been boring test holes and haven't come close to the chamber yet. No good surface reference mapping of the cave.
One of the other things Musk is supposedly doing is sending over stuff from his tunneling company like really good ground penetrating radar, but it looks like the rains are coming and the Thais are determined to do something now.
The Chilean miners got rescued by drilling (by a Pennyslvania company!) but that took 69 days.
Limited information, but...I think they've been boring test holes and haven't come close to the chamber yet. No good surface reference mapping of the cave.
One of the other things Musk is supposedly doing is sending over stuff from his tunneling company like really good ground penetrating radar, but it looks like the rains are coming and the Thais are determined to do something now.
The Chilean miners got rescued by drilling (by a Pennyslvania company!) but that took 69 days.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:45 PM (fuK7c)
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So this afternoon after mowing the lawn, I swept my driveway and sidewalk. At one point I saw a group of people walking on the sidewalk towards me.
I moved the trash can off the sidewalk and stood aside to let them pass.
They were two women about 25-30 and two little girls about 4-5.
The women were covered in tattoos. The blonde was quite attractive; the brunette less so, but still not bad.
As they walked past they were talking to each other. They didn't so much as glance in my direction or acknowledge my presence in any way.
I moved the trash can off the sidewalk and stood aside to let them pass.
They were two women about 25-30 and two little girls about 4-5.
The women were covered in tattoos. The blonde was quite attractive; the brunette less so, but still not bad.
As they walked past they were talking to each other. They didn't so much as glance in my direction or acknowledge my presence in any way.
Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2018 11:46 PM (sdi6R)
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IMHO LZ was a bad garage band of methhead wankers. But that is just in IMHO. While revenge is a dish best tasted cold, artistic taste is simply a matter of taste. When it comes to LZ for me, one listen was all I needed to just say no thank you. YMMV
Posted by: colfax mingo at July 07, 2018 11:46 PM (t78V7)
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:46 PM (Cssks)
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On last night's ONT, 'round midnight, we started discussing "The Worst Big Budget Movie Ever Made" (modern era). These were what we came up with. I doubt we missed any, but perhaps we COULD'VE overlooked one or two?
alphabetical order:
Alexander
Empire of the Sun
The English Patient
Gable and Lombard
In Harm's Way
Kingdom of Heaven
Pearl Harbor
Remains of the Day
They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
Waterworld
Aetius contributed about four of these, & I nominated a couple.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:32
I'll have to second "The English Patient", what was the f*cking point? And another nominaton would be "Ghandi", I slept thru it twice.
alphabetical order:
Alexander
Empire of the Sun
The English Patient
Gable and Lombard
In Harm's Way
Kingdom of Heaven
Pearl Harbor
Remains of the Day
They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
Waterworld
Aetius contributed about four of these, & I nominated a couple.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 10:32
I'll have to second "The English Patient", what was the f*cking point? And another nominaton would be "Ghandi", I slept thru it twice.
Posted by: Farmer at July 07, 2018 11:47 PM (yJ1e6)
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Have you seen Ghost Stories with Martin Freeman? Apparently a throw-back Hammer/British horror flick.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
Thanks, I'll have to check that out.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
Thanks, I'll have to check that out.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 11:48 PM (+lVUW)
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Start praying hard for the Thai boys!
I heard tonight that they could be swimming for 6 hours to get out of the cave!
I heard tonight that they could be swimming for 6 hours to get out of the cave!
Posted by: Pam at July 07, 2018 11:48 PM (qRq6C)
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RE: Thai cave kids
Memo to self:
Learn to fn scuba dive BEFORE going into an underwater cave. I mean, Jay-sus!
Memo to self:
Learn to fn scuba dive BEFORE going into an underwater cave. I mean, Jay-sus!
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (Cssks)
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I am absolutely not a fan of the .Gov rent seeker
Musk, but if he can pull this off successfully, major, major cred as far
as I am concerned.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:42 PM (Qjvy3)
If he can pull this off then he's like a modern day Howard Hughes. Maybe even without the codeine addiction.
Musk, but if he can pull this off successfully, major, major cred as far
as I am concerned.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:42 PM (Qjvy3)
If he can pull this off then he's like a modern day Howard Hughes. Maybe even without the codeine addiction.
Posted by: Some Jackass at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (sXefu)
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Limited information, but...I think they've been boring test holes and haven't come close to the chamber yet. No good surface reference mapping of the cave.
One of the other things Musk is supposedly doing is sending over stuff from his tunneling company like really good ground penetrating radar, but it looks like the rains are coming and the Thais are determined to do something now.
The Chilean miners got rescued by drilling (by a Pennyslvania company!) but that took 69 days.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:45 PM (fuK7c)
People these days don't realize just how fast modern oil well drilling rigs can make hole. 100 to 200 meters per hour is not unheard of in shallow hole. That's the ROP while on bottom, mind you. Factoring in time to add new joints of drill pipe might slow it down to 50 or so.
One of the other things Musk is supposedly doing is sending over stuff from his tunneling company like really good ground penetrating radar, but it looks like the rains are coming and the Thais are determined to do something now.
The Chilean miners got rescued by drilling (by a Pennyslvania company!) but that took 69 days.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:45 PM (fuK7c)
People these days don't realize just how fast modern oil well drilling rigs can make hole. 100 to 200 meters per hour is not unheard of in shallow hole. That's the ROP while on bottom, mind you. Factoring in time to add new joints of drill pipe might slow it down to 50 or so.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (a2xQ5)
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"I saw the headlines of submarine and thought what a
maroon. this makes more sense but more complex than it needs to be with 2
guide divers.
Posted by: X-ray"
There's one part of the cave that's so narrow that you have to crawl through. So small that air tanks have to be taken off and pushed in front.
maroon. this makes more sense but more complex than it needs to be with 2
guide divers.
Posted by: X-ray"
There's one part of the cave that's so narrow that you have to crawl through. So small that air tanks have to be taken off and pushed in front.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (w+Jhj)
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Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:35 PM (fuK7c)
Okay, when I posted that Musk was sending a team there to help, there was some snark. Which I did not understand and still don't. Why would people snark about that? Also, it came about bcz someone asked Musk to help and he tweeted that he was sure Thailand govt. had it under control, but he would help if he could.
I don't get being pro capitalism and saying it is better than govt. run solutions, and then snarking when one of those capitalists offers to send his people to help with some fresh ideas when asked...to a govt. run rescue operation of kids that is failing.
Okay, when I posted that Musk was sending a team there to help, there was some snark. Which I did not understand and still don't. Why would people snark about that? Also, it came about bcz someone asked Musk to help and he tweeted that he was sure Thailand govt. had it under control, but he would help if he could.
I don't get being pro capitalism and saying it is better than govt. run solutions, and then snarking when one of those capitalists offers to send his people to help with some fresh ideas when asked...to a govt. run rescue operation of kids that is failing.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (1lhwM)
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300 Evidently all the trash was not completely swept off the sidewalk
Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at July 07, 2018 11:50 PM (9TR2V)
312
305 Start praying hard for the Thai boys!
I heard tonight that they could be swimming for 6 hours to get out of the cave!
Posted by: Pam at July 07, 2018 11:48 PM (qRq6C)
Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming!
I heard tonight that they could be swimming for 6 hours to get out of the cave!
Posted by: Pam at July 07, 2018 11:48 PM (qRq6C)
Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming!
Posted by: Dory at July 07, 2018 11:51 PM (LU5wv)
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> Any distinguishing tattoos? No officer that isn't my name.
There was a case here a few years ago where a pimp was trying to convince a judge that he wasn't a pimp, despite having the word "Pimp" tattooed on his face.
There was a case here a few years ago where a pimp was trying to convince a judge that he wasn't a pimp, despite having the word "Pimp" tattooed on his face.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 07, 2018 11:52 PM (GXOTw)
314
I have to say about Titanic. I liked the way it made my second date with a specific woman end The movie sucked though.
And no I don't do phrasing.
And no I don't do phrasing.
Posted by: X-ray at July 07, 2018 11:52 PM (Mxa6K)
315
"It's actually cool outside. Weird. 66 deg.
Posted by: Mike Hammer"
Yeah. Low 70's most of the day. Was in the low 80's over in Severville (We went over there shopping)
Posted by: Mike Hammer"
Yeah. Low 70's most of the day. Was in the low 80's over in Severville (We went over there shopping)
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 07, 2018 11:52 PM (w+Jhj)
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Farmer
Ghandi didn't really ring the bell for me, either, but I thought Ben Kingsley redeemed it.
There was a bad film called Khartoum. Same thing. Lawrence Olivier saved it.
Ghandi didn't really ring the bell for me, either, but I thought Ben Kingsley redeemed it.
There was a bad film called Khartoum. Same thing. Lawrence Olivier saved it.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:53 PM (Cssks)
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I don't get being pro capitalism and saying it is better than govt. run solutions, and then snarking when one of those capitalists offers to send his people to help with some fresh ideas when asked...to a govt. run rescue operation of kids that is failing.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (1lhwM)
I hear you, but Musk is not exactly an unalloyed capitalist. he is the very definition of a crony capitalist, propped up in his every venture by government purchases or outright subsidies. If Tesla Motors had to survive upon what willing buyers would pay for the cars, absent any government subsidies, it would be bankrupt already.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (1lhwM)
I hear you, but Musk is not exactly an unalloyed capitalist. he is the very definition of a crony capitalist, propped up in his every venture by government purchases or outright subsidies. If Tesla Motors had to survive upon what willing buyers would pay for the cars, absent any government subsidies, it would be bankrupt already.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:53 PM (a2xQ5)
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Memo to self:
Learn to fn scuba dive BEFORE going into an underwater cave. I mean, Jay-sus!
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (Cssks)
Also, how to swim and dive. Jay-sus!
This coach...he has taken kids there 4 times this year. He should be fired. I lost any sympathy I had for him. Totally reckless guy.
Learn to fn scuba dive BEFORE going into an underwater cave. I mean, Jay-sus!
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (Cssks)
Also, how to swim and dive. Jay-sus!
This coach...he has taken kids there 4 times this year. He should be fired. I lost any sympathy I had for him. Totally reckless guy.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:53 PM (1lhwM)
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I am absolutely not a fan of the .Gov rent seeker
Musk, but if he can pull this off successfully, major, major cred as far
as I am concerned.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:42 PM (Qjvy3)
If he can pull this off then he's like a modern day Howard Hughes. Maybe even without the codeine addiction.
Posted by: Some Jackass at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (sXefu)
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Allow me to add to my original comment....... and pays for it out of his companie(s) pockets. Time to pay it forward, Elon.
But still, I admire the effort.
Musk, but if he can pull this off successfully, major, major cred as far
as I am concerned.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:42 PM (Qjvy3)
If he can pull this off then he's like a modern day Howard Hughes. Maybe even without the codeine addiction.
Posted by: Some Jackass at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (sXefu)
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Allow me to add to my original comment....... and pays for it out of his companie(s) pockets. Time to pay it forward, Elon.
But still, I admire the effort.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 07, 2018 11:53 PM (Qjvy3)
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Okay, when I posted that Musk was sending a team there to help, there was some snark. Which I did not understand and still don't.
Some hate on Musk because Tesla gets massive government subsidies.
However, he can get stuff into space and the government can't.
There's a German company that wants to send over its pumps because they're sure that they can pump a zillion times better than the pumps currently on hand. AtC and I were talking about the competitive capitalism going on, "I can rescue the kids better than you can".
We'll see. There is no real news other than that the media has been kicked out and the speculation is that something is going to be attempted in the next couple of days.
Some hate on Musk because Tesla gets massive government subsidies.
However, he can get stuff into space and the government can't.
There's a German company that wants to send over its pumps because they're sure that they can pump a zillion times better than the pumps currently on hand. AtC and I were talking about the competitive capitalism going on, "I can rescue the kids better than you can".
We'll see. There is no real news other than that the media has been kicked out and the speculation is that something is going to be attempted in the next couple of days.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:54 PM (fuK7c)
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..."As they walked past they were talking to each other. They didn't so much as glance in my direction or acknowledge my presence in any way."
-Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2018 11:46 PM (sdi6R)
I was taught to nod, say 'hello' or at least doff my cap to someone. Even in my late teen years, as an Eddie Haskell sort (at times) I would acknowledge folks in my close proximity.
-Posted by: rickl at July 07, 2018 11:46 PM (sdi6R)
I was taught to nod, say 'hello' or at least doff my cap to someone. Even in my late teen years, as an Eddie Haskell sort (at times) I would acknowledge folks in my close proximity.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018 11:54 PM (Ckg4U)
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There was a case here a few years ago where a pimp was trying to convince a judge that he wasn't a pimp, despite having the word "Pimp" tattooed on his face.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 07, 2018 11:52 PM (GXOTw)
If every single individual with face tattoos was rounded up and fed through a wood chipper, there is no chance at all that the discovery of a cure for cancer would be in any way delayed.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 07, 2018 11:52 PM (GXOTw)
If every single individual with face tattoos was rounded up and fed through a wood chipper, there is no chance at all that the discovery of a cure for cancer would be in any way delayed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2018 11:55 PM (a2xQ5)
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266 I thought "Titanic" was a horrible movie. I hated it with a passion.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 11:32 PM
Saw it when it came out in the theaters over Christmas break when I was in college. Has *just* broken up with my girlfriend of 2+ years a couple weeks earlier and my buddy convinced me to go on a double-blind date with this girl and her friend he had been talking to on AOL (remember that?).
Anyway, I remember allowing myself to be hypnotized by the stupid 'love story' the movie was pushing with Rose and Jack, rooting for them, rooting against Billy Zane's character, etc.
But years later, watching it again not so emotionally charged from the breakup and a lot less naive, all I saw was the idiocy of Rose thinking she was a "slave" to her rich background and the realization that Billy Zane's character had every right to be completely pissed off at her, as she was floozing around on him with some boyish-looking schmuck.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 07, 2018 11:32 PM
Saw it when it came out in the theaters over Christmas break when I was in college. Has *just* broken up with my girlfriend of 2+ years a couple weeks earlier and my buddy convinced me to go on a double-blind date with this girl and her friend he had been talking to on AOL (remember that?).
Anyway, I remember allowing myself to be hypnotized by the stupid 'love story' the movie was pushing with Rose and Jack, rooting for them, rooting against Billy Zane's character, etc.
But years later, watching it again not so emotionally charged from the breakup and a lot less naive, all I saw was the idiocy of Rose thinking she was a "slave" to her rich background and the realization that Billy Zane's character had every right to be completely pissed off at her, as she was floozing around on him with some boyish-looking schmuck.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 11:55 PM (7A4qQ)
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Learn to fn scuba dive BEFORE going into an underwater cave. I mean, Jay-sus!
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (Cssks)
I know you're probably goofing, but tech diving... man it's something else. If open water is high school shop class, cave diving is maybe two or three engineering postgrad degrees.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (Cssks)
I know you're probably goofing, but tech diving... man it's something else. If open water is high school shop class, cave diving is maybe two or three engineering postgrad degrees.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:57 PM (y87Qq)
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I heard tonight that they could be swimming for 6 hours to get out of the cave!
At the best athletic shape of my life I could have not swam for 6 hours straight. No fvckin' way. I could float and play in the ocean all day, but that kind of swimming...I don't think I could have done it. Maybe I'm wrong about myself. Maybe my memory is faulty. Maybe those boys are in better shape...but hell...some are just learning to dive and swim now.
At the best athletic shape of my life I could have not swam for 6 hours straight. No fvckin' way. I could float and play in the ocean all day, but that kind of swimming...I don't think I could have done it. Maybe I'm wrong about myself. Maybe my memory is faulty. Maybe those boys are in better shape...but hell...some are just learning to dive and swim now.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:57 PM (1lhwM)
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I don't get being pro capitalism and saying it is better than govt. run solutions, and then snarking when one of those capitalists offers to send his people to help with some fresh ideas when asked...to a govt. run rescue operation of kids that is failing.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (1lhwM)
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No fan of Musk, but agreed with prior sentiments - he seems to be trying on this one.
A corollary to this is the "don't let the industry that caused the problem try to solve the problem" like we saw from some corners with the Macando well in the Gulf when it blew out in 2010.
In some cases, no .gov agency *anywhere* has the people, expertise or industrial capacity to deal with the disaster. You need the best people, and the best people usually work in industry. No government could have accomplished what BP accomplished in that disaster. The number of groundbreaking inventions and processes that led to the containment of that disaster is astonishing. Is BP run by a bunch of saints? No, not then and not now.
But they do have talent and when people with talent (and capital) bring that talent to bear on a problem, the results can be remarkable.
I wish Musk nothing but the best on this one. He tends to be very good at idea generation and early implementation, which this is an example of. Getting it to scale up does seem to be beyond him, though (see his "manufacturing hell" at Tesla) but this doesn't need to scale - it only needs to work once.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:49 PM (1lhwM)
+++++++++
No fan of Musk, but agreed with prior sentiments - he seems to be trying on this one.
A corollary to this is the "don't let the industry that caused the problem try to solve the problem" like we saw from some corners with the Macando well in the Gulf when it blew out in 2010.
In some cases, no .gov agency *anywhere* has the people, expertise or industrial capacity to deal with the disaster. You need the best people, and the best people usually work in industry. No government could have accomplished what BP accomplished in that disaster. The number of groundbreaking inventions and processes that led to the containment of that disaster is astonishing. Is BP run by a bunch of saints? No, not then and not now.
But they do have talent and when people with talent (and capital) bring that talent to bear on a problem, the results can be remarkable.
I wish Musk nothing but the best on this one. He tends to be very good at idea generation and early implementation, which this is an example of. Getting it to scale up does seem to be beyond him, though (see his "manufacturing hell" at Tesla) but this doesn't need to scale - it only needs to work once.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 11:58 PM (hYcqw)
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Overtaken by events.
New story says rescue attempt is underway. Tethering boys to rescue divers.
New story says rescue attempt is underway. Tethering boys to rescue divers.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:59 PM (fuK7c)
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287 Owen Wilson and Ken Hudson Campbell
I completely forgot those two were in it, too.
OK, they can stay with Steve Buscemi and Michael Clarke Duncan and Peter Stormare. Everybody else get out.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:40 PM
Yep. If you watch it more for all the comedy rather than treating it as a cheesy drama, it's much more enjoyable.
Don't forget one of the best lines early in the movie from the guy who discovers the meteor:
"I wanna name her Dottie after my wife. [Switch to shot of his wife with a surprised 'aw, that's so sweet of you' look] She's a vicious life-sucking bitch from which there is no escape."
I completely forgot those two were in it, too.
OK, they can stay with Steve Buscemi and Michael Clarke Duncan and Peter Stormare. Everybody else get out.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 07, 2018 11:40 PM
Yep. If you watch it more for all the comedy rather than treating it as a cheesy drama, it's much more enjoyable.
Don't forget one of the best lines early in the movie from the guy who discovers the meteor:
"I wanna name her Dottie after my wife. [Switch to shot of his wife with a surprised 'aw, that's so sweet of you' look] She's a vicious life-sucking bitch from which there is no escape."
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 07, 2018 11:59 PM (7A4qQ)
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If every single individual with face tattoos was rounded up and fed through a wood chipper, there is no chance at all that the discovery of a cure for cancer would be in any way delayed.
Minor point of order: one of the walking canvases could get the cancer that leads to the cure.
Minor point of order: one of the walking canvases could get the cancer that leads to the cure.
Posted by: mikeski at July 07, 2018 11:59 PM (P1f+c)
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I know you're probably goofing, but tech diving... man it's something else. If open water is high school shop class, cave diving is maybe two or three engineering postgrad degrees.
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Many a brave man has ventured in, never to be heard from again.
I know you're probably goofing, but tech diving... man it's something else. If open water is high school shop class, cave diving is maybe two or three engineering postgrad degrees.
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Many a brave man has ventured in, never to be heard from again.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at July 08, 2018 12:01 AM (hq7zy)
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Titanic/Celine Dion:
I thought this was funny, In the novel Hotel Honolulu, 2 Polynesian hotel workers are drinking & playing scrabble. The name Celine Dion comes up somehow.
First Man: "She have face like-a horse!"
Second Man: "Yeah... but thass one horse I like to f**k!"
I thought this was funny, In the novel Hotel Honolulu, 2 Polynesian hotel workers are drinking & playing scrabble. The name Celine Dion comes up somehow.
First Man: "She have face like-a horse!"
Second Man: "Yeah... but thass one horse I like to f**k!"
Posted by: strawdog at July 08, 2018 12:01 AM (Cssks)
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my guess is that the thai's will line the cave as far as they can with a human chain to pass the kids through and guide them through the flooded areas one by one. or something.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 08, 2018 12:01 AM (Pg+x7)
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Okay, when I posted that Musk was sending a team there to help, there was some snark. ----
I didn't snark your post but might have because of crappy journalists who don't do who what why where when research. All the Musk reporting early said was submarine. When international outlets said there was a 15" choke point.
I pray someone has a good plan that works and that is all that matters to me.
I didn't snark your post but might have because of crappy journalists who don't do who what why where when research. All the Musk reporting early said was submarine. When international outlets said there was a 15" choke point.
I pray someone has a good plan that works and that is all that matters to me.
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 12:01 AM (Mxa6K)
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322 hahahahahahaha
Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at July 08, 2018 12:02 AM (9TR2V)
335
They call it "Tobacco Sauce" because of the way it makes your mouth smoke!
Posted by: andycanuck at July 08, 2018 12:02 AM (Evws/)
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182 I still like The 10 Commandments, despite agreeing that it is dated. Respectful religious pictures are almost a thing of the past. I can't imagine that movie being made respectfully today.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 07, 2018 11:07 PM (H5knJ)
Always thought Moses lucked out getting the tough crook wielding shepherdess for a wife and not that conniving Egyptian tart.
182 I still like The 10 Commandments, despite agreeing that it is dated. Respectful religious pictures are almost a thing of the past. I can't imagine that movie being made respectfully today.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at July 07, 2018 11:07 PM (H5knJ)
Always thought Moses lucked out getting the tough crook wielding shepherdess for a wife and not that conniving Egyptian tart.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 08, 2018 12:02 AM (e1mEI)
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Minor point of order: one of the walking canvases could get the cancer that leads to the cure.
Posted by: mikeski at July 07, 2018 11:59 PM (P1f+c)
Well, there is that. Might make good lab rats, I guess. Thing is, those winners with the face tats have self-identified as worthless.
Posted by: mikeski at July 07, 2018 11:59 PM (P1f+c)
Well, there is that. Might make good lab rats, I guess. Thing is, those winners with the face tats have self-identified as worthless.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 08, 2018 12:02 AM (a2xQ5)
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The boys and their coach sent letters out to the families today. The coach apologized.
The Guardian has a live blog going.
The Guardian has a live blog going.
Posted by: Pam at July 08, 2018 12:03 AM (qRq6C)
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No fan of Musk, but agreed with prior sentiments - he seems to be trying on this one.
A corollary to this is the "don't let the industry that caused the problem try to solve the problem" like we saw from some corners with the Macando well in the Gulf when it blew out in 2010.
In some cases, no .gov agency *anywhere* has the people, expertise or industrial capacity to deal with the disaster. You need the best people, and the best people usually work in industry. No government could have accomplished what BP accomplished in that disaster. The number of groundbreaking inventions and processes that led to the containment of that disaster is astonishing. Is BP run by a bunch of saints? No, not then and not now.
But they do have talent and when people with talent (and capital) bring that talent to bear on a problem, the results can be remarkable.
I wish Musk nothing but the best on this one. He tends to be very good at idea generation and early implementation, which this is an example of. Getting it to scale up does seem to be beyond him, though (see his "manufacturing hell" at Tesla) but this doesn't need to scale - it only needs to work once.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 11:58 PM (hYcqw)
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Extremely well said. I do not care for him either personally, or by his subsidy sustained corporate ways, professionally.
If he is able to figure this out and solve it, major props.
A corollary to this is the "don't let the industry that caused the problem try to solve the problem" like we saw from some corners with the Macando well in the Gulf when it blew out in 2010.
In some cases, no .gov agency *anywhere* has the people, expertise or industrial capacity to deal with the disaster. You need the best people, and the best people usually work in industry. No government could have accomplished what BP accomplished in that disaster. The number of groundbreaking inventions and processes that led to the containment of that disaster is astonishing. Is BP run by a bunch of saints? No, not then and not now.
But they do have talent and when people with talent (and capital) bring that talent to bear on a problem, the results can be remarkable.
I wish Musk nothing but the best on this one. He tends to be very good at idea generation and early implementation, which this is an example of. Getting it to scale up does seem to be beyond him, though (see his "manufacturing hell" at Tesla) but this doesn't need to scale - it only needs to work once.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 07, 2018 11:58 PM (hYcqw)
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Extremely well said. I do not care for him either personally, or by his subsidy sustained corporate ways, professionally.
If he is able to figure this out and solve it, major props.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 08, 2018 12:03 AM (Qjvy3)
Posted by: strawdog at July 08, 2018 12:03 AM (Cssks)
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254 Currently watching "Night Will Fall" on Netflix. It's a documentary on the British experience liberating concentration camps. If I hadn't seen this stuff in grade school I'd be having nightmares.
....
Posted by: Farmer
I saw a movie called "Rebel in the Rye" a few weeks ago. It was about J. D. Sallinger.. I had never known about his WWII experience. He was in it from the D Day invasion, fighting through Europe, right up to going into a concentration camp. He ended up being treated for shell shock. The movie then went into his becoming a successful author, and eventually a recluse.
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Posted by: Farmer
I saw a movie called "Rebel in the Rye" a few weeks ago. It was about J. D. Sallinger.. I had never known about his WWII experience. He was in it from the D Day invasion, fighting through Europe, right up to going into a concentration camp. He ended up being treated for shell shock. The movie then went into his becoming a successful author, and eventually a recluse.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 08, 2018 12:03 AM (+lVUW)
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It was about J. D. Sallinger.. I had never known about his WWII experience. He was in it from the D Day invasion, fighting through Europe, right up to going into a concentration camp. He ended up being treated for shell shock.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 08, 2018 12:03 AM (+lVUW)
Wow. I did not know about any of that.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 08, 2018 12:03 AM (+lVUW)
Wow. I did not know about any of that.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 12:05 AM (y87Qq)
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The heat wave broke in Toronto on Friday, quite nice today esp. with the breeze but it's supposed to be hot again on Monday or Tuesday IIRC.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 08, 2018 12:05 AM (Evws/)
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BTW, the boys weren't cave diving, the cave was dry when they went in.
BBC is saying they're going to bring the kids out one at a time. The whole way back is not under water, there will be stations for rest and medical evaluation along the way at the parts that are not under water.
Total journey per kid will be 11 hours.
BBC is saying they're going to bring the kids out one at a time. The whole way back is not under water, there will be stations for rest and medical evaluation along the way at the parts that are not under water.
Total journey per kid will be 11 hours.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 12:05 AM (fuK7c)
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..."And that brings up the complete audacity to compare Trump and supporters to Nazis. Have any of those idiots that say that seen what the Nazis really did?"
-Posted by: Farmer at July 07, 2018 11:29 PM (yJ1e6)
I've heard from a teacher that they teach about "Right-Wing Nazi" atrocities, but don't speak ill of Communism.
Public schools are Brain Washing Machines.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018
Well if the Nazis were "right wing" why did they call themselves National Socialists? One wonders. Seem like they might have been "Socialists"?
-Posted by: Farmer at July 07, 2018 11:29 PM (yJ1e6)
I've heard from a teacher that they teach about "Right-Wing Nazi" atrocities, but don't speak ill of Communism.
Public schools are Brain Washing Machines.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 07, 2018
Well if the Nazis were "right wing" why did they call themselves National Socialists? One wonders. Seem like they might have been "Socialists"?
Posted by: Farmer at July 08, 2018 12:05 AM (yJ1e6)
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There's a German company that wants to send over its pumps because they're sure that they can pump a zillion times better than the pumps currently on hand. AtC and I were talking about the competitive capitalism going on, "I can rescue the kids better than you can".
We'll see. There is no real news other than that the media has been kicked out and the speculation is that something is going to be attempted in the next couple of days.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:54 PM (fuK7c)
I do believe in the genuineness of many people wanting to help. But sure, there are always gonna be those with selfish interests. Ya know, there was some tragedy in the last few years, and the solution ended up being some company Kevin Costner founded that had created machines that did something with water. Does anyone remember that?
Anyway, I'll still take capitalism over govt. solutions. Which makes me feel like saying Fuck off Obama and all those trying to destroy capitalism and this country and make the world some retrograde place. But I won't.
We'll see. There is no real news other than that the media has been kicked out and the speculation is that something is going to be attempted in the next couple of days.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:54 PM (fuK7c)
I do believe in the genuineness of many people wanting to help. But sure, there are always gonna be those with selfish interests. Ya know, there was some tragedy in the last few years, and the solution ended up being some company Kevin Costner founded that had created machines that did something with water. Does anyone remember that?
Anyway, I'll still take capitalism over govt. solutions. Which makes me feel like saying Fuck off Obama and all those trying to destroy capitalism and this country and make the world some retrograde place. But I won't.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:06 AM (1lhwM)
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As I've always said about "Titanic", in my opinion the ship itself was the real star of the movie, and it was depicted faithfully and lovingly. James Cameron dived on the wreck numerous times to film it. That took balls. Going to that depth is as dangerous as a spacewalk.
I would have been thrilled with a straight-up remake of "A Night to Remember", but the fictional love story was a plot device that allowed them to show every part of the ship from bow to stern. Not a bad idea, really.
Plus Kate Winslet. Rrrowwr.
I would have been thrilled with a straight-up remake of "A Night to Remember", but the fictional love story was a plot device that allowed them to show every part of the ship from bow to stern. Not a bad idea, really.
Plus Kate Winslet. Rrrowwr.
Posted by: rickl at July 08, 2018 12:07 AM (sdi6R)
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Has Sean Penn showed up with his red beer-cup yet?
Posted by: andycanuck at July 08, 2018 12:08 AM (Evws/)
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"Well if the Nazis were "right wing" why did they call themselves National Socialists? One wonders. Seem like they might have been "Socialists"?"
-Posted by: Farmer at July 08, 2018 12:05 AM (yJ1e6)
Because "progressives" change the meaning of words to fit their narrative. Our speech is violence, their violence is speech.
...not too hard to figure out.
-Posted by: Farmer at July 08, 2018 12:05 AM (yJ1e6)
Because "progressives" change the meaning of words to fit their narrative. Our speech is violence, their violence is speech.
...not too hard to figure out.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 08, 2018 12:08 AM (Ckg4U)
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Plus Kate Winslet. Rrrowwr.
Posted by: rickl at July 08, 2018 12:07 AM (sdi6R)
Her boobs post here sometimes.
Posted by: rickl at July 08, 2018 12:07 AM (sdi6R)
Her boobs post here sometimes.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 12:08 AM (y87Qq)
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Bandersnatch
But damn! They should have known it COULD flood.
Taking the kids down there is just unconscionable. My kids are teenagers & certified scuba divers, but I would never let them do anything remotely as risky as that.
But damn! They should have known it COULD flood.
Taking the kids down there is just unconscionable. My kids are teenagers & certified scuba divers, but I would never let them do anything remotely as risky as that.
Posted by: strawdog at July 08, 2018 12:09 AM (Cssks)
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Ya know, there was some tragedy in the last few years, and the solution ended up being some company Kevin Costner founded that had created machines that did something with water. Does anyone remember that? ----
IIRC it was his brothers company that made oil skimmers connected to the BP rig blowout.
IIRC it was his brothers company that made oil skimmers connected to the BP rig blowout.
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 12:10 AM (Mxa6K)
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Overtaken by events.
New story says rescue attempt is underway. Tethering boys to rescue divers.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:59 PM (fuK7c)
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Oh my.
Lord God, please bless and protect this rescue effort. Through your love and wisdom, please see them to safety so that one day, far in the future, you may be reunited with these young souls.
We humbly ask this of my Lord.
Amen.
New story says rescue attempt is underway. Tethering boys to rescue divers.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 07, 2018 11:59 PM (fuK7c)
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Oh my.
Lord God, please bless and protect this rescue effort. Through your love and wisdom, please see them to safety so that one day, far in the future, you may be reunited with these young souls.
We humbly ask this of my Lord.
Amen.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 08, 2018 12:10 AM (Qjvy3)
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Quint, hmmm.
Re J.D. Salinger: great writer, but from everything I've read, was a huge prick in real life.
I remember reading once that when he found out his teenage daughter had eaten some Taco Bell, he MADE her throw it up, because he was so convinced it was poison.
Re J.D. Salinger: great writer, but from everything I've read, was a huge prick in real life.
I remember reading once that when he found out his teenage daughter had eaten some Taco Bell, he MADE her throw it up, because he was so convinced it was poison.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:10 AM (eMKNe)
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Well if the Nazis were "right wing" why did they call themselves National Socialists? One wonders. Seem like they might have been "Socialists"?
Posted by: Farmer at July 08, 2018 12:05 AM (yJ1e6)
The Nazis were members in good standing of the Left Wing, right up until the time that Hitler tore up the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and invaded Russia.
Posted by: Farmer at July 08, 2018 12:05 AM (yJ1e6)
The Nazis were members in good standing of the Left Wing, right up until the time that Hitler tore up the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and invaded Russia.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 08, 2018 12:10 AM (a2xQ5)
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225 Yes, that was Empire of the Sun. I understand it bored the tits off the Statue of Liberty.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (Cssks)
I actually like that movie despite my generally dismissing films in which minors have the lead roles. Having Malkovich co-star definitely helped, though.
Posted by: strawdog at July 07, 2018 11:21 PM (Cssks)
I actually like that movie despite my generally dismissing films in which minors have the lead roles. Having Malkovich co-star definitely helped, though.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 08, 2018 12:12 AM (NL6wI)
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The coach apologized.
He should. I may sound harsh, but I read an interview that some of the boys gave who ended up missing the trip. Seems this coach was taking them to these caves instead of just doing soccor practice, and the parents didn't always know.
Even if the caves are dry when you go in, there is water around, you know the risks, and you are prepared. They weren't. Hell, I knew this is grade school in the girl scouts. It's not rocket science. He was reckless. Fine with your own life, not with other people's kids.
One guy has already died. Maybe I'll read something and have to eat my words, and feel bad about being harsh. Right now, I think they should throw the book at him.
He should. I may sound harsh, but I read an interview that some of the boys gave who ended up missing the trip. Seems this coach was taking them to these caves instead of just doing soccor practice, and the parents didn't always know.
Even if the caves are dry when you go in, there is water around, you know the risks, and you are prepared. They weren't. Hell, I knew this is grade school in the girl scouts. It's not rocket science. He was reckless. Fine with your own life, not with other people's kids.
One guy has already died. Maybe I'll read something and have to eat my words, and feel bad about being harsh. Right now, I think they should throw the book at him.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:12 AM (1lhwM)
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I have a bullet-proof plan for dealing with caves that you can't simply walk into, and out of. Don't go in there.
When I was 12 or so, a good friend died in a cave-in. I've never forgotten.
I've had a few instances of waking up with such claustrophobia that I've had to go outside in the middle of the night to get right again.
When I was in my 30's, a good friend died by entrapment/drowning in a kayak while paddling a pretty challenging river. I was there when his wife was given the news. I don't kayak whitewater rivers.
When I was 12 or so, a good friend died in a cave-in. I've never forgotten.
I've had a few instances of waking up with such claustrophobia that I've had to go outside in the middle of the night to get right again.
When I was in my 30's, a good friend died by entrapment/drowning in a kayak while paddling a pretty challenging river. I was there when his wife was given the news. I don't kayak whitewater rivers.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 08, 2018 12:13 AM (I83yK)
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354 I remember reading once that when he found out his teenage daughter had eaten some Taco Bell, he MADE her throw it up, because he was so convinced it was poison.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:10 AM (eMKNe)
Having eaten that stuff, once, I cannot really criticize him for that.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:10 AM (eMKNe)
Having eaten that stuff, once, I cannot really criticize him for that.
Posted by: Splunge at July 08, 2018 12:14 AM (Vb4BV)
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BTW, the boys weren't cave diving, the cave was dry when they went in.
I figured that. It didn't make sense that the kids would be taking this path that their instructor had taken so many times before (=successfully) and now, suddenly, there's this crisis.
Sometimes bad shit happens. Not everything can be predicted in advance.
I figured that. It didn't make sense that the kids would be taking this path that their instructor had taken so many times before (=successfully) and now, suddenly, there's this crisis.
Sometimes bad shit happens. Not everything can be predicted in advance.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:14 AM (6FqZa)
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Those are all good choices. One universally panned
movie that I liked was "The Razor's edge". It was basically Bill
Murray's first attempt at a drama. It was not a "great film" but asked
some good questions and the story was different. Better than some
generic retread stories these days.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 11:14 PM (n13/j)
I am not positive on this, but I think this was a remake of a movie
made 2 times before, from a book by the same name. I coulda googled
first, but I went with guessing and being wrong. Which I probably am.
Not sure the previous movies went by the same name.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:39 PM (1lhwM)
Yeah, I don't google on issues like this. It kills the point of conversation imo. Chat now, Google later. I do recall that the movie was made before. And I did not know it was based on a book, Somerset Maugham. The movie drove me to buy the book. I guess I was just trying to say the movie was a risk and new to the 80's generation. They were certainly not playing with tried and true movie motifs.
I am not saying it was a great movie. The acting was uneven and the story was not very tight. I do have a soft spot for comedians trying dramatic roles though. Another one I remember liking was Robin Williams in the Fisher King and of course Dead Poets Society.
movie that I liked was "The Razor's edge". It was basically Bill
Murray's first attempt at a drama. It was not a "great film" but asked
some good questions and the story was different. Better than some
generic retread stories these days.
Posted by: Quint at July 07, 2018 11:14 PM (n13/j)
I am not positive on this, but I think this was a remake of a movie
made 2 times before, from a book by the same name. I coulda googled
first, but I went with guessing and being wrong. Which I probably am.
Not sure the previous movies went by the same name.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 07, 2018 11:39 PM (1lhwM)
Yeah, I don't google on issues like this. It kills the point of conversation imo. Chat now, Google later. I do recall that the movie was made before. And I did not know it was based on a book, Somerset Maugham. The movie drove me to buy the book. I guess I was just trying to say the movie was a risk and new to the 80's generation. They were certainly not playing with tried and true movie motifs.
I am not saying it was a great movie. The acting was uneven and the story was not very tight. I do have a soft spot for comedians trying dramatic roles though. Another one I remember liking was Robin Williams in the Fisher King and of course Dead Poets Society.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 12:15 AM (n13/j)
362
There's a question at Quora:
Am I the only liberal who's happy that the economies of the American Southern states are pathetically poor?
Thankfully, whoever asked this is getting some epic smackdowns.
http://qr.ae/TUpdhB
Am I the only liberal who's happy that the economies of the American Southern states are pathetically poor?
Thankfully, whoever asked this is getting some epic smackdowns.
http://qr.ae/TUpdhB
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:15 AM (eMKNe)
363
Oh my.
Lord God, please bless and protect this rescue effort. Through your love and wisdom, please see them to safety so that one day, far in the future, you may be reunited with these young souls.
We humbly ask this of my Lord.
Amen.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 08, 2018 12:10 AM (Qjvy3)
Water Angels Lord. If ya got 'em.
Lord God, please bless and protect this rescue effort. Through your love and wisdom, please see them to safety so that one day, far in the future, you may be reunited with these young souls.
We humbly ask this of my Lord.
Amen.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 08, 2018 12:10 AM (Qjvy3)
Water Angels Lord. If ya got 'em.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:15 AM (1lhwM)
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I didn't know the exact nature of Salinger's war experience, but "For Esme with Love and Squalor" was about a guy with shell shock trying to keep his brain together.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 12:15 AM (fuK7c)
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Seems this coach was taking them to these caves instead of just doing soccor practice, and the parents didn't always know.
Thanks for pointing that out. THIS is where I would blame the coach.
Thanks for pointing that out. THIS is where I would blame the coach.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:16 AM (6FqZa)
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Currently watching "Night Will Fall" on Netflix. It's a documentary on the British experience liberating concentration camps. If I hadn't seen this stuff in grade school I'd be having nightmares.
Posted by: Farmer
I saw a movie called "Rebel in the Rye" a few weeks ago. It was about J. D. Sallinger.. I had never known about his WWII experience. He was in it from the D Day invasion, fighting through Europe, right up to going into a concentration camp. He ended up being treated for shell shock. The movie then went into his becoming a successful author, and eventually a recluse.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 08, 2018 12:03
That all is mindboggling, to view hundreds, if not thousands is just crazy. I'm still reeling from the film, must change to Fox news and get pissed off at politics there.
Posted by: Farmer
I saw a movie called "Rebel in the Rye" a few weeks ago. It was about J. D. Sallinger.. I had never known about his WWII experience. He was in it from the D Day invasion, fighting through Europe, right up to going into a concentration camp. He ended up being treated for shell shock. The movie then went into his becoming a successful author, and eventually a recluse.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 08, 2018 12:03
That all is mindboggling, to view hundreds, if not thousands is just crazy. I'm still reeling from the film, must change to Fox news and get pissed off at politics there.
Posted by: Farmer at July 08, 2018 12:17 AM (yJ1e6)
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uggh, I mean I DID know it was based on a book. I doubt I knew this when I first saw the movie but I do own the book so.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 12:17 AM (n13/j)
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347
I would have been thrilled with a straight-up remake of "A Night to Remember", but the fictional love story was a plot device that allowed them to show every part of the ship from bow to stern. Not a bad idea, really.
Posted by: rickl at July 08, 2018 12:07 AM
That's a good point, actually. If you view it as an ode to the ship, the Titanic, I can appreciate the movie much more.
Speaking of, the best documentary I have seen on the reason the Titanic sank is "Titanic's Final Mystery". They show it on Smithsonian Channel every now and then. Even though I saw it a year or two ago for the first time, I watch it every time I see that it is on. Goes through explaining how they couldn't see the iceberg in time, because of the false horizon created by the weather that night and the Labrador Current (cold water from the north). Fascinating documentary. After I saw it the first time, I stopped watching any other conspiracy theory show on the Titanic.
I would have been thrilled with a straight-up remake of "A Night to Remember", but the fictional love story was a plot device that allowed them to show every part of the ship from bow to stern. Not a bad idea, really.
Posted by: rickl at July 08, 2018 12:07 AM
That's a good point, actually. If you view it as an ode to the ship, the Titanic, I can appreciate the movie much more.
Speaking of, the best documentary I have seen on the reason the Titanic sank is "Titanic's Final Mystery". They show it on Smithsonian Channel every now and then. Even though I saw it a year or two ago for the first time, I watch it every time I see that it is on. Goes through explaining how they couldn't see the iceberg in time, because of the false horizon created by the weather that night and the Labrador Current (cold water from the north). Fascinating documentary. After I saw it the first time, I stopped watching any other conspiracy theory show on the Titanic.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 08, 2018 12:17 AM (7A4qQ)
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Tough crowd.
How did you get them to move off?
Posted by: hogmartin
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Turkeys are extremely skittish and shy. Makes 'em hard to hunt. Hens *can* be pretty protective with their (?) chicks, but they generally will herd them away from perceived danger. a "Shoo", will do the trick.
Tough crowd.
How did you get them to move off?
Posted by: hogmartin
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Turkeys are extremely skittish and shy. Makes 'em hard to hunt. Hens *can* be pretty protective with their (?) chicks, but they generally will herd them away from perceived danger. a "Shoo", will do the trick.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 08, 2018 12:17 AM (I83yK)
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Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 12:15 AM (n13/j)
Robin Williams. I always felt I saw the real him in his more serious roles. He was just as good in those as his funny ones.
Robin Williams. I always felt I saw the real him in his more serious roles. He was just as good in those as his funny ones.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:18 AM (1lhwM)
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I agree, the coach should not have taken them in...especially so close to the rain season.
He is only 24, iirc. For right now at least the parents said they are not mad at him. They wrote him a note too.
He is only 24, iirc. For right now at least the parents said they are not mad at him. They wrote him a note too.
Posted by: Pam at July 08, 2018 12:18 AM (qRq6C)
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'we are sending our love down a well (DOWN THAT WELL)'
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:18 AM (6FqZa)
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Sometimes bad shit happens. Not everything can be predicted in advance.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:14 AM (6FqZa)
Apparently this is a ritual. It would be interesting to see how many names are on that back wall of the cave from previous trips at some point..
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:14 AM (6FqZa)
Apparently this is a ritual. It would be interesting to see how many names are on that back wall of the cave from previous trips at some point..
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 12:18 AM (Mxa6K)
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Yay! Great post! The Trumps are in charge and not the Obamas, Bushes or Clintons Thank you Lord.
Posted by: Lava Land at July 08, 2018 12:19 AM (FJrl0)
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Just came to me, it was like a cheesy remake of The Birds.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 08, 2018 12:19 AM (I83yK)
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I guess I am not really convinced that anyone will actually follow this link and watch this little 6 minute science-fiction film, based on a short story, called "They're Made Out of Meat." But it has stuck in my mind so I had to share it anyway. Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ
Posted by: Splunge at July 08, 2018 12:19 AM (Vb4BV)
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I tried watching Nemesis. What a turd that was.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:20 AM (6FqZa)
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Seems this coach was taking them to these caves instead of just doing soccor practice, and the parents didn't always know.
Thanks for pointing that out. THIS is where I would blame the coach.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:16 AM (6FqZa)
Yes, and he had done it 4 times previously this year, according to the boys who missed the trip. So that is where I have huge issues. They talked about how their flashlights would run outta batteries, and all kinds of stuff. They made it sound like a lark, not a serious planned outing. That is why my view on him changed.
I will leave the door open in case it turns out the boys lied or the media was wrong. However, the detail given was pretty darn convincing.
Thanks for pointing that out. THIS is where I would blame the coach.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:16 AM (6FqZa)
Yes, and he had done it 4 times previously this year, according to the boys who missed the trip. So that is where I have huge issues. They talked about how their flashlights would run outta batteries, and all kinds of stuff. They made it sound like a lark, not a serious planned outing. That is why my view on him changed.
I will leave the door open in case it turns out the boys lied or the media was wrong. However, the detail given was pretty darn convincing.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:22 AM (1lhwM)
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Turkeys are extremely skittish and shy. Makes 'em hard to hunt. Hens *can* be pretty protective with their (?) chicks, but they generally will herd them away from perceived danger. a "Shoo", will do the trick.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 08, 2018 12:17 AM (I83yK)
I guess I was picturing more of a cross between domestic turkeys and Canada geese. Monstrously stupid, pissed off, no sense of self-preservation.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 08, 2018 12:17 AM (I83yK)
I guess I was picturing more of a cross between domestic turkeys and Canada geese. Monstrously stupid, pissed off, no sense of self-preservation.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 12:22 AM (y87Qq)
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I tried watching Nemesis. What a turd that was.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:20 AM (6FqZa)
I didn't even make it through the movie trailer.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:20 AM (6FqZa)
I didn't even make it through the movie trailer.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:23 AM (1lhwM)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 08, 2018 12:23 AM (IqV8l)
382
I tried watching Nemesis. What a turd that was.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:20 AM (6FqZa)
With sufficient emesis, turds can be avoided.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:20 AM (6FqZa)
With sufficient emesis, turds can be avoided.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 08, 2018 12:23 AM (a2xQ5)
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362 There's a question at Quora:
Am I the only liberal who's happy that the economies of the American Southern states are pathetically poor?
Thankfully, whoever asked this is getting some epic smackdowns.
http://qr.ae/TUpdhB
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:15 AM (eMKNe)
Heh. Apparently the person who asked that thinks that history stopped in 1870 and the South's entire economy is based on sharecropping.
Am I the only liberal who's happy that the economies of the American Southern states are pathetically poor?
Thankfully, whoever asked this is getting some epic smackdowns.
http://qr.ae/TUpdhB
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:15 AM (eMKNe)
Heh. Apparently the person who asked that thinks that history stopped in 1870 and the South's entire economy is based on sharecropping.
Posted by: rickl at July 08, 2018 12:23 AM (sdi6R)
384
Ugh. Woke up this morning with some sort of weird stomach bug. My middle was so sensitive to the touch that my bra straps and the waistband of my pants caused extreme discomfort. Achy joints and feeling hot then cold. My sil awoke with exactly the same symptoms. We had a big memorial service for my bil yesterday with tons of food, but I don't know if anybody else besides us were sick. It felt as if we were poisoned. I'm feeling better now, but exhausted.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 08, 2018 12:24 AM (H80UQ)
385
Because "progressives" change the meaning of words to fit their narrative. Our speech is violence, their violence is speech.
...not too hard to figure out.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 08, 2018 12:08
And this is why I love some Slapweasel. Rock on bro.
...not too hard to figure out.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 08, 2018 12:08
And this is why I love some Slapweasel. Rock on bro.
Posted by: Farmer at July 08, 2018 12:24 AM (yJ1e6)
386
Turkeys are extremely skittish and shy. Makes 'em hard to hunt. Hens *can* be pretty protective with their (?) chicks, but they generally will herd them away from perceived danger. a "Shoo", will do the trick.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 08, 2018 12:17 AM (I83yK)
20 years ago I heard this same sentiment. But the ones that live on the property where I work are pretty much tame. In the woods they may be skittish but in suburbia not so much And don't get me started on how geese don't even fear cars now like they did in the 70s
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 08, 2018 12:17 AM (I83yK)
20 years ago I heard this same sentiment. But the ones that live on the property where I work are pretty much tame. In the woods they may be skittish but in suburbia not so much And don't get me started on how geese don't even fear cars now like they did in the 70s
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 12:24 AM (Mxa6K)
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Apparently this is a ritual. It would be interesting to see how many names are on that back wall of the cave from previous trips at some point..
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 12:18 AM (Mxa6K)
The boys I saw interviewed said nothing about that, although that was in the initial report. So, we'll see I guess.
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 12:18 AM (Mxa6K)
The boys I saw interviewed said nothing about that, although that was in the initial report. So, we'll see I guess.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:25 AM (1lhwM)
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Quint, hmmm.
Re J.D. Salinger: great writer, but from everything I've read, was a huge prick in real life.
I remember reading once that when he found out his teenage daughter
had eaten some Taco Bell, he MADE her throw it up, because he was so
convinced it was poison.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:10 AM (eMKNe)
ddpsteve,What are you referencing here? I don't think I mentioned J.D. Salinger.
Re J.D. Salinger: great writer, but from everything I've read, was a huge prick in real life.
I remember reading once that when he found out his teenage daughter
had eaten some Taco Bell, he MADE her throw it up, because he was so
convinced it was poison.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:10 AM (eMKNe)
ddpsteve,What are you referencing here? I don't think I mentioned J.D. Salinger.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 12:25 AM (n13/j)
389
There's a question at Quora:
Am I the only liberal who's happy that the economies of the American Southern states are pathetically poor?
No, he's not the only one.
There's a question at Quora:
Am I the only liberal who's happy that the economies of the American Southern states are pathetically poor?
No, he's not the only one.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 08, 2018 12:26 AM (IqV8l)
390
I will leave the door open in case it turns out the boys lied or the media was wrong. However, the detail given was pretty darn convincing.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:22 AM (1lhwM)
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All of this no longer matters. The situation is what it is. Blame can (and most assuredly will be) assigned quickly after this is over.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:22 AM (1lhwM)
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All of this no longer matters. The situation is what it is. Blame can (and most assuredly will be) assigned quickly after this is over.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 08, 2018 12:27 AM (Qjvy3)
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"was one of a whole string of depressing movies made in 1969-1971"
Dog Day Afternoon. When the blurb said black comedy, I expected "I'm Gonna Git You Sucka"
Turns out it means depressing waste of 2 hours.
Dog Day Afternoon. When the blurb said black comedy, I expected "I'm Gonna Git You Sucka"
Turns out it means depressing waste of 2 hours.
Posted by: Downcast at July 08, 2018 12:28 AM (VWE5i)
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377 I tried watching Nemesis. What a turd that was.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:20 AM (6FqZa)
Stop worrying me about Soothsayer! He still hasn't checked in.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 08, 2018 12:20 AM (6FqZa)
Stop worrying me about Soothsayer! He still hasn't checked in.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:28 AM (1lhwM)
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I'd just run Canadian geese over. I would be doing the world a favor.
Haven't had to, yet --but if I'm ever late for work?
...they become nothing more than a pile of feathers and a temporary stain.
Haven't had to, yet --but if I'm ever late for work?
...they become nothing more than a pile of feathers and a temporary stain.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 08, 2018 12:28 AM (Ckg4U)
394
I'm feeling better now, but exhausted.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 08, 2018 12:24 AM (H80UQ)
Sorry to hear that, Donna
I hope you're back to 100% soon.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 08, 2018 12:24 AM (H80UQ)
Sorry to hear that, Donna
I hope you're back to 100% soon.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 12:28 AM (y87Qq)
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qdpsteve
If you combine wages AND cost of living, & weight each 50/50, the poorest state in the union isn't Mississippi... it's Maine.
Plus, people keep moving TO our poor benighted southern states. They must not be too bad, or I guess people would be leaving Tennessee & moving to San Francisco.
If you combine wages AND cost of living, & weight each 50/50, the poorest state in the union isn't Mississippi... it's Maine.
Plus, people keep moving TO our poor benighted southern states. They must not be too bad, or I guess people would be leaving Tennessee & moving to San Francisco.
Posted by: strawdog at July 08, 2018 12:29 AM (Cssks)
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:30 AM (eMKNe)
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Stop worrying me about Soothsayer! He still hasn't checked in.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:28 AM (1lhwM)
Speaking of absent Morons, has Miklos been around lately?
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:28 AM (1lhwM)
Speaking of absent Morons, has Miklos been around lately?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 12:30 AM (y87Qq)
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If you combine wages AND cost of living, & weight each 50/50, the poorest state in the union isn't Mississippi... it's Maine. ---
Moose out front should have told you.
Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 12:31 AM (Mxa6K)
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rickl, check out that Quora answer I linked. It's epic IMHO. And there's a lot more like it; you can check all the answers to the question by clicking on the question itself.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:31 AM (eMKNe)
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71 I agree, the coach should not have taken them in...especially so close to the rain season.
He is only 24, iirc. For right now at least the parents said they are not mad at him. They wrote him a note too.
Posted by: Pam at July 08, 2018 12:18 AM (qRq6C)
Gosh, that was so nice. I would too though, trying to keep their spirits up. Then, when they were safe, I'd kick their asses.
One kid said the guy was a former monk. Which, well, was curious. All the kids like him though, so that and the monk training may be crucial in keeping them calm.
He is only 24, iirc. For right now at least the parents said they are not mad at him. They wrote him a note too.
Posted by: Pam at July 08, 2018 12:18 AM (qRq6C)
Gosh, that was so nice. I would too though, trying to keep their spirits up. Then, when they were safe, I'd kick their asses.
One kid said the guy was a former monk. Which, well, was curious. All the kids like him though, so that and the monk training may be crucial in keeping them calm.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:34 AM (1lhwM)
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The French made Godzilla movie was a major fail. They had to put rain in every scene with the big lizard because the special effects were so poorly done. Story, cast and special effects failures added up to one of worst Godzilla movies ever made.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at July 08, 2018 12:34 AM (bML9A)
402
I'm feeling better now, but exhausted.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 08, 2018 12:24
Be well Donna. I'm off to bed here, nite all.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at July 08, 2018 12:24
Be well Donna. I'm off to bed here, nite all.
Posted by: Farmer at July 08, 2018 12:34 AM (yJ1e6)
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Quint, I believe someone else mentioned ol' J.D.
Bertram and strawdog, yup.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:30 AM (eMKNe)
I am caught up now. I have never read Catcher in the Rye. I guess a lot of people like it, mostly libs. I will get to it some day I guess.
Bertram and strawdog, yup.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:30 AM (eMKNe)
I am caught up now. I have never read Catcher in the Rye. I guess a lot of people like it, mostly libs. I will get to it some day I guess.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 12:34 AM (n13/j)
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'night, Farmer.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 12:34 AM (y87Qq)
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Okay... load of laundry to fold and off to bed with Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel.
G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!
*static*
G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!
*static*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 08, 2018 12:35 AM (Ckg4U)
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G'Night, Farmer.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 08, 2018 12:35 AM (Ckg4U)
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399 rickl, check out that Quora answer I linked. It's epic IMHO. And there's a lot more like it; you can check all the answers to the question by clicking on the question itself.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:31 AM (eMKNe)
It wants me to sign up or log in.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:31 AM (eMKNe)
It wants me to sign up or log in.
Posted by: rickl at July 08, 2018 12:36 AM (sdi6R)
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Night, Slap.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 08, 2018 12:36 AM (Qjvy3)
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Speaking of Maine, anybody see Sally Field in "The Spitfire Grill"?
Nice little movie about a young woman who overcomes tremendous adversity through her newfound faith in the Lord.
Doubt Hollywood be doing a remake these days!
Nice little movie about a young woman who overcomes tremendous adversity through her newfound faith in the Lord.
Doubt Hollywood be doing a remake these days!
Posted by: strawdog at July 08, 2018 12:36 AM (Cssks)
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Good night, Farmer and Slapweasel.
Posted by: rickl at July 08, 2018 12:37 AM (sdi6R)
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One kid said the guy was a former monk. Which, well, was curious.
A lot of Thai men are monks for a couple of years around 18-20. It's not like a Christian monk who takes vows and commits his life to, it's more like the Mormon thing where you spend two years proselytizing.
It's a glorious sight in Thailand at dawn to see a flurry of monks in orange robes setting out with their rice bowls.
A lot of Thai men are monks for a couple of years around 18-20. It's not like a Christian monk who takes vows and commits his life to, it's more like the Mormon thing where you spend two years proselytizing.
It's a glorious sight in Thailand at dawn to see a flurry of monks in orange robes setting out with their rice bowls.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 12:37 AM (fuK7c)
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:37 AM (1lhwM)
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rickl, the answer I linked to is by someone named Sonya Nagla. She wrote:
I doubt you are the only liberal who believes this- nor do I doubt that you are the only indoctrinated useless rube that has bought into a caste system that you youtself are not welcome to participate in. But keep propping your lords and masters up- maybe Zuck or Branson or that jerk that runs Twitter will invite you to one of their private island garden parties. Fool./i]
I doubt you are the only liberal who believes this- nor do I doubt that you are the only indoctrinated useless rube that has bought into a caste system that you youtself are not welcome to participate in. But keep propping your lords and masters up- maybe Zuck or Branson or that jerk that runs Twitter will invite you to one of their private island garden parties. Fool./i]
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:38 AM (eMKNe)
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Isn't most of Maine frozen half the year and the rest swamp?
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 12:39 AM (Mxa6K)
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Quint
I read Catcher a very long time ago, but I don't think it had any political viewpoint whatever. I don't think you could read it & guess the author's politics, just going by memory.
I read Catcher a very long time ago, but I don't think it had any political viewpoint whatever. I don't think you could read it & guess the author's politics, just going by memory.
Posted by: strawdog at July 08, 2018 12:40 AM (Cssks)
Posted by: mikeski at July 08, 2018 12:40 AM (P1f+c)
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I am caught up now. I have never read Catcher in the Rye. I guess a lot of people like it, mostly libs. I will get to it some day I guess.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 12:34 AM (n13/j)
I really liked it, but I was maybe 14 when I read it. The idea of just bagging ass out to a hotel room in a city and blowing off all your obligations sounded all rebellious and punk rock and appealing, but also I was 14. I have no idea if it would hold up at all if I tried to read it again now.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 12:34 AM (n13/j)
I really liked it, but I was maybe 14 when I read it. The idea of just bagging ass out to a hotel room in a city and blowing off all your obligations sounded all rebellious and punk rock and appealing, but also I was 14. I have no idea if it would hold up at all if I tried to read it again now.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 12:41 AM (y87Qq)
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393 I'd just run Canadian geese over. I would be doing the world a favor.
Haven't had to, yet --but if I'm ever late for work?
...they become nothing more than a pile of feathers and a temporary stain.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 08, 2018 12:28 AM
We get sent training e-mails at my work in the Spring warning us about the Canadian Geese who are always around our building each year. They send us instructions on how not to piss off the Geese and basically how not to defend ourselves against the Geese by being aggressive. It is apparently illegal in this area of Michigan (or maybe all of Michigan? I have no idea...) to harm Canadian Geese.
Last year, we looked out the window and saw a small car with "GooseBusters" and a dog painted on the side of the car. No-shit, they actually call a business called GooseBusters to send out a guy and his dog to chase away the geese if they get in areas not set aside for the geese.
Haven't had to, yet --but if I'm ever late for work?
...they become nothing more than a pile of feathers and a temporary stain.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 08, 2018 12:28 AM
We get sent training e-mails at my work in the Spring warning us about the Canadian Geese who are always around our building each year. They send us instructions on how not to piss off the Geese and basically how not to defend ourselves against the Geese by being aggressive. It is apparently illegal in this area of Michigan (or maybe all of Michigan? I have no idea...) to harm Canadian Geese.
Last year, we looked out the window and saw a small car with "GooseBusters" and a dog painted on the side of the car. No-shit, they actually call a business called GooseBusters to send out a guy and his dog to chase away the geese if they get in areas not set aside for the geese.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 08, 2018 12:41 AM (7A4qQ)
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It wants me to sign up or log in.
Posted by: rickl at July 08, 2018 12:36 AM (sdi6R)
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I suggest you not do this. I had an experience with this site several years ago. It spammed my throwaway email for months after trying to get them to stop.
Anyone who is suggesting you go there ain't looking out for your best interests.
Posted by: rickl at July 08, 2018 12:36 AM (sdi6R)
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I suggest you not do this. I had an experience with this site several years ago. It spammed my throwaway email for months after trying to get them to stop.
Anyone who is suggesting you go there ain't looking out for your best interests.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 08, 2018 12:41 AM (Qjvy3)
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Isn't most of Maine frozen half the year and the rest swamp?
That's Minnesota.
Posted by: mikeski at July 08, 2018 12:40 AM (P1f+c)
I am a Minnesotan and all I know about Maine is from watching Maine Cabin Masters. And it looks like home.
That's Minnesota.
Posted by: mikeski at July 08, 2018 12:40 AM (P1f+c)
I am a Minnesotan and all I know about Maine is from watching Maine Cabin Masters. And it looks like home.
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 12:44 AM (Mxa6K)
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"was one of a whole string of depressing movies made in 1969-1971"
Dog Day Afternoon. When the blurb said black comedy, I expected "I'm Gonna Git You Sucka"
Turns out it means depressing waste of 2 hours.
Posted by: Downcast at July 08, 2018 12:28 AM (VWE5i)
Yeah, they did not hide the negativity and anti hero stuff. Many of those films I did like though. There were some good movies during that time. I am not sure what year it was but the original "Taking of Pelhman 123" was a really good movie. The great Robert Shaw starred in it. The remake was pointless in my opinion, but most remakes are.
Even the Westerns during that time focused on anti heroes and a dystopian world. Back when Westerns were part of the American tableau, they would often reflect the societal views of their day. For example, there were a slew of anti communist themed Westerns during the 50s, and then later the anti-hero ones of the late 60's and early 70s. . Too bad today they don't make westerns, and even if they do make them, they are usually bad.
Dog Day Afternoon. When the blurb said black comedy, I expected "I'm Gonna Git You Sucka"
Turns out it means depressing waste of 2 hours.
Posted by: Downcast at July 08, 2018 12:28 AM (VWE5i)
Yeah, they did not hide the negativity and anti hero stuff. Many of those films I did like though. There were some good movies during that time. I am not sure what year it was but the original "Taking of Pelhman 123" was a really good movie. The great Robert Shaw starred in it. The remake was pointless in my opinion, but most remakes are.
Even the Westerns during that time focused on anti heroes and a dystopian world. Back when Westerns were part of the American tableau, they would often reflect the societal views of their day. For example, there were a slew of anti communist themed Westerns during the 50s, and then later the anti-hero ones of the late 60's and early 70s. . Too bad today they don't make westerns, and even if they do make them, they are usually bad.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 12:47 AM (n13/j)
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417
I really liked it, but I was maybe 14 when I read it. The idea of just bagging ass out to a hotel room in a city and blowing off all your obligations sounded all rebellious and punk rock and appealing, but also I was 14. I have no idea if it would hold up at all if I tried to read it again now.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 12:41 AM (y87Qq)
I read it in college and was not impressed. It's probably much more appealing to teenagers.
I really liked it, but I was maybe 14 when I read it. The idea of just bagging ass out to a hotel room in a city and blowing off all your obligations sounded all rebellious and punk rock and appealing, but also I was 14. I have no idea if it would hold up at all if I tried to read it again now.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 12:41 AM (y87Qq)
I read it in college and was not impressed. It's probably much more appealing to teenagers.
Posted by: rickl at July 08, 2018 12:48 AM (sdi6R)
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8 I have a bullet-proof plan for dealing with caves that you can't simply walk into, and out of. Don't go in there.
When I was 12 or so, a good friend died in a cave-in. I've never forgotten.
I've had a few instances of waking up with such claustrophobia that I've had to go outside in the middle of the night to get right again.
When I was in my 30's, a good friend died by entrapment/drowning in a kayak while paddling a pretty challenging river. I was there when his wife was given the news. I don't kayak whitewater rivers.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 08, 2018 12:13 AM (I83yK)
Mike, I'm so sorry for the loss of your friends.
When I was 12 or so, a good friend died in a cave-in. I've never forgotten.
I've had a few instances of waking up with such claustrophobia that I've had to go outside in the middle of the night to get right again.
When I was in my 30's, a good friend died by entrapment/drowning in a kayak while paddling a pretty challenging river. I was there when his wife was given the news. I don't kayak whitewater rivers.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 08, 2018 12:13 AM (I83yK)
Mike, I'm so sorry for the loss of your friends.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:48 AM (1lhwM)
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Isn't most of Maine frozen half the year and the rest swamp?
Posted by: X-ray
Thats what we tell the Massholes.
Posted by: X-ray
Thats what we tell the Massholes.
Posted by: Ya ain't from around heya, areya. at July 08, 2018 12:51 AM (zjqhr)
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Been quite a while but I don't remember Empire of the Sun being so bad.
But I have a ravenous apetite and forgiving standards for movies about actual history, and the setting of that movie, IIRC, was a fascinating and little known or explored one - expat internees in Japanese-occupied China.
One day at a place I volunteer a guy came in who as a small kid was in a family interned in Manila, at one of the Catholic girls' schools, during the war. He had been the head of the association of internees and their descendants at one time.
Also worked with someone who as a small child was part of a family of Russian White emigres, living in Harbin, when Japan occupied Manchuria. The opening scene (?) of The Last Emperor, the motorcade to which attendance was "encouraged" by charming young Japanese soldiers banging on doors with their rifles? He was there, said his whole family dressed up in Sunday best and went to take their place along the route.
I love that s**t, so movies that deal with it always get at least a peek (unlike almost any others, any more).
But I have a ravenous apetite and forgiving standards for movies about actual history, and the setting of that movie, IIRC, was a fascinating and little known or explored one - expat internees in Japanese-occupied China.
One day at a place I volunteer a guy came in who as a small kid was in a family interned in Manila, at one of the Catholic girls' schools, during the war. He had been the head of the association of internees and their descendants at one time.
Also worked with someone who as a small child was part of a family of Russian White emigres, living in Harbin, when Japan occupied Manchuria. The opening scene (?) of The Last Emperor, the motorcade to which attendance was "encouraged" by charming young Japanese soldiers banging on doors with their rifles? He was there, said his whole family dressed up in Sunday best and went to take their place along the route.
I love that s**t, so movies that deal with it always get at least a peek (unlike almost any others, any more).
Posted by: rhomboid at July 08, 2018 12:51 AM (QDnY+)
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Calm Mentor, not trying to set anyone up with spam. I just think there's some stuff worth reading at Quora. Sorry if you got spammed a ton, that's a problem with every site these days IMHO.
Ironically, I just found another question there: "Why does Stephen King hate what Stanley Kubrick did with The Shining?"
One of the answers claims that in King's original book, Wendy Torrance is actually a somewhat hawt blonde.
Ironically, I just found another question there: "Why does Stephen King hate what Stanley Kubrick did with The Shining?"
One of the answers claims that in King's original book, Wendy Torrance is actually a somewhat hawt blonde.
Posted by: qdpsteve at July 08, 2018 12:53 AM (eMKNe)
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Trump needs to put Warren in charge of building the Heap Big Wall on our Northern Border, to help stop the migration invasion of illegal Greater Canada Geese into our lands.
And part of her Commission, will be to ensure that the Canada Geese pay for the wall.
With. Their. Lives.
/snrk
Hasta la nite nite, Horde!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
And part of her Commission, will be to ensure that the Canada Geese pay for the wall.
With. Their. Lives.
/snrk
Hasta la nite nite, Horde!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 08, 2018 12:54 AM (QzJWU)
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I think Catcher in the Rye was the kind of book you were supposed to read and say "ooh that is so cool that is so deep that is so my life of ennui" even though it was a total piece of crap. Just like that stupid "old man and the sea" that Hemingway wrote. BOOORING!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 08, 2018 12:54 AM (V2Yro)
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Straw Dog, Hogmartin,
I know it is considered a modern American classic. I think I will give it a try sometime.
I know it is considered a modern American classic. I think I will give it a try sometime.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 12:54 AM (n13/j)
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Last year, we looked out the window and saw a small car with "GooseBusters" and a dog painted on the side of the car. No-shit, they actually call a business called GooseBusters to send out a guy and his dog to chase away the geese if they get in areas not set aside for the geese.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 08, 2018 12:41 AM (7A4qQ)
Hahahahahahaha. That's awesome. MAGA!
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 08, 2018 12:41 AM (7A4qQ)
Hahahahahahaha. That's awesome. MAGA!
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:54 AM (1lhwM)
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In the 70s there were also several main stream movies that kinda but not outright said underage girls were AOK. I think Brooke Sheilds was in a couple of them. One was set in a brothel I think.
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 12:55 AM (Mxa6K)
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I will update the Worst Movie list (large budget edition), & post the final version on tomorrow's ONT.
Next up? Perhaps, "Worst Movie Ever Made" (small budget/drive-in/B-list edition).
As the DEA likes to say, "Via con dios...motherf**ker!"
Next up? Perhaps, "Worst Movie Ever Made" (small budget/drive-in/B-list edition).
As the DEA likes to say, "Via con dios...motherf**ker!"
Posted by: strawdog at July 08, 2018 12:57 AM (Cssks)
Posted by: strawdog at July 08, 2018 12:58 AM (Cssks)
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I learned my lesson about caves at a ranch in West Texas, had a rather shallow one we had found some indian artifacts in and near visiting previously. I had gone down into it, about a couple hundred yards, but it was winter then and cold. Visited it in summer, and at the rather large entrance, there was a bunch of broken rock on the floor, stuff that had fallen from the ceiling. Walked in, heard something like dry leaves rustling, an odd noise. A pal a few yards behind me with a better vantage point yelled "get back here fast!!!" So I did. Looked back and saw, seriously, an 8 foot long diamondback with a body as big around as my upper arm gliding across the floor.
That cured me of any desire to go exploring caves.
That cured me of any desire to go exploring caves.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 08, 2018 12:59 AM (V2Yro)
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I think Catcher in the Rye was the kind of book you were supposed to read and say "ooh that is so cool that is so deep that is so my life of ennui" even though it was a total piece of crap. Just like that stupid "old man and the sea" that Hemingway wrote. BOOORING!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 08, 2018 12:54 AM (V2Yro)
I remember it being Ferris Bueller's Weekend Off Also Fuck Those Phonies Amirite Guys.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 08, 2018 12:54 AM (V2Yro)
I remember it being Ferris Bueller's Weekend Off Also Fuck Those Phonies Amirite Guys.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 01:00 AM (y87Qq)
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...Next up? Perhaps, "Worst Movie Ever Made" (small budget/drive-in/B-list edition).
#1. Earf in de Bawlance. Algore.
#2 through... anything by Michael Moore.
*repeat* Hasta la nite nite, Horde!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
*static*
/slapweaselschtick
#1. Earf in de Bawlance. Algore.
#2 through... anything by Michael Moore.
*repeat* Hasta la nite nite, Horde!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
*static*
/slapweaselschtick
Posted by: Jim at July 08, 2018 01:01 AM (QzJWU)
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431 In the 70s there were also several main stream movies that kinda but not outright said underage girls were AOK. I think Brooke Sheilds was in a couple of them. One was set in a brothel I think."
The infamous "Pretty Baby".
The infamous "Pretty Baby".
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 08, 2018 01:01 AM (V2Yro)
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I loved Catcher so much in high school that I went and read everything else that Salinger had ever written, then went to the Reader's Guide to Periodic Literature and thence to the microfiche (that's how old I am) to find what had only been published in magazines.
I never did find "The Inverted Forest", but I found everything else.
When my high school kid read Catcher I picked it up again and found that it didn't hold up for me. When I was in high school I knew nothing of the class system underlying Holden's existence, nor of NYC, it was just a bold adventure that would have terrified me because my parents surely would have murdered me.
I'd say it doesn't hold up, but I don't regret my Salinger obsession from back then. Reading everything made me feel better.
I never did find "The Inverted Forest", but I found everything else.
When my high school kid read Catcher I picked it up again and found that it didn't hold up for me. When I was in high school I knew nothing of the class system underlying Holden's existence, nor of NYC, it was just a bold adventure that would have terrified me because my parents surely would have murdered me.
I'd say it doesn't hold up, but I don't regret my Salinger obsession from back then. Reading everything made me feel better.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:02 AM (fuK7c)
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Straw Dog, Hogmartin,
I know it is considered a modern American classic. I think I will give it a try sometime.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 12:54 AM (n13/j)
I read it in Jr. High, along with all the classics, like Hemingway's "Old Man and the Sea". Twain's "Huckleberry Finn". "To Kill a Mockingbird", "Moby Dick", "The Great Gatsby", etc. I did my reports, class discussions, learned what I was supposed to, and swore I'd never read them again. They all depressed me.
I preferred Agatha Christie.
I know it is considered a modern American classic. I think I will give it a try sometime.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 12:54 AM (n13/j)
I read it in Jr. High, along with all the classics, like Hemingway's "Old Man and the Sea". Twain's "Huckleberry Finn". "To Kill a Mockingbird", "Moby Dick", "The Great Gatsby", etc. I did my reports, class discussions, learned what I was supposed to, and swore I'd never read them again. They all depressed me.
I preferred Agatha Christie.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:03 AM (1lhwM)
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Twain's "Huckleberry Finn".
No one should be permitted to read Huckleberry Finn until the age of 35.
Children won't get it, will get it wrong, and will walk away with the wrong ideas about it.
No one should be permitted to read Huckleberry Finn until the age of 35.
Children won't get it, will get it wrong, and will walk away with the wrong ideas about it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:05 AM (fuK7c)
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I would except only The Owl and the Pussycat, which was funny.
Especially if you can find the sole remaining copy of the version where Babs is topless in one scene. She has supposedly brought up and destroyed all of the prints of that version.
Especially if you can find the sole remaining copy of the version where Babs is topless in one scene. She has supposedly brought up and destroyed all of the prints of that version.
Posted by: Fox2! at July 08, 2018 01:06 AM (UQBWn)
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I read it in Jr. High, along with all the classics [...] I did my reports, class discussions, learned what I was supposed to, and swore I'd never read them again. They all depressed me.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel
Mark Twain said a Classic was a book that everyone wants to have read, but nobody wants to read.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel
Mark Twain said a Classic was a book that everyone wants to have read, but nobody wants to read.
Posted by: mikeski at July 08, 2018 01:06 AM (P1f+c)
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I preferred Agatha Christie.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:03 AM (1lhwM)
I liked Louis L'Amour. The Great Gatsby was not bad. I did read Hemingway's "The Sun Also Rises" but I read that when I was older loved the idea of living in international locales.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:03 AM (1lhwM)
I liked Louis L'Amour. The Great Gatsby was not bad. I did read Hemingway's "The Sun Also Rises" but I read that when I was older loved the idea of living in international locales.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 01:07 AM (n13/j)
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Mark Twain said a Classic was a book that everyone wants to have read, but nobody wants to read.
Posted by: mikeski at July 08, 2018 01:06 AM (P1f+c)
Like they say about Clausewitz's "On War". The most quoted book no one has read.
Posted by: mikeski at July 08, 2018 01:06 AM (P1f+c)
Like they say about Clausewitz's "On War". The most quoted book no one has read.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 01:08 AM (n13/j)
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430 Last year, we looked out the window and saw a small car with "GooseBusters" and a dog painted on the side of the car. No-shit, they actually call a business called GooseBusters to send out a guy and his dog to chase away the geese if they get in areas not set aside for the geese.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 08, 2018 12:41 AM (7A4qQ)
Hahahahahahaha. That's awesome. MAGA!
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:54 AM
Heh, yeah, it's a running joke at work. There was an e-mail going around this year showing some young golfer getting attacked on the golf course that we all meme'd up.
Did a quick Google search and found the car we saw. Hatchback with the border collie on the side of it. Apparently the Goose Busters business is based out of Holly, MI.
https://bit.ly/2u3b2KS
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 08, 2018 12:41 AM (7A4qQ)
Hahahahahahaha. That's awesome. MAGA!
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 12:54 AM
Heh, yeah, it's a running joke at work. There was an e-mail going around this year showing some young golfer getting attacked on the golf course that we all meme'd up.
Did a quick Google search and found the car we saw. Hatchback with the border collie on the side of it. Apparently the Goose Busters business is based out of Holly, MI.
https://bit.ly/2u3b2KS
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 08, 2018 01:11 AM (7A4qQ)
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Right now I'm reading the two volume edited version of the Inman Diaries.
The dude was quite bizarre.
The dude was quite bizarre.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 01:11 AM (8iiMU)
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>>>On a happy note: Today is Nacho Day 606. It is 606 days that Hillary is nacho President!!!
Thank you!
Thank you!
Posted by: m at July 08, 2018 01:11 AM (/TzhX)
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Twain's "Huckleberry Finn".
No one should be permitted to read Huckleberry Finn until the age of 35.
Children won't get it, will get it wrong, and will walk away with the wrong ideas about it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:05 AM (fuK7c)
People are growing up much slower these days, if they ever do. There is a reason community colleges now spend a year or so getting incoming students to a high school level so that they can actually take the coursed offered at the college.
No one should be permitted to read Huckleberry Finn until the age of 35.
Children won't get it, will get it wrong, and will walk away with the wrong ideas about it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:05 AM (fuK7c)
People are growing up much slower these days, if they ever do. There is a reason community colleges now spend a year or so getting incoming students to a high school level so that they can actually take the coursed offered at the college.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 01:11 AM (n13/j)
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Twain's "Huckleberry Finn".
No one should be permitted to read Huckleberry Finn until the age of 35.
Children won't get it, will get it wrong, and will walk away with the wrong ideas about it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:05 AM (fuK7c)
Well no one that went to public school after the 80s. Since it will take them until 35 to get their cognitive skills back from the brainwashing they got.
No one should be permitted to read Huckleberry Finn until the age of 35.
Children won't get it, will get it wrong, and will walk away with the wrong ideas about it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:05 AM (fuK7c)
Well no one that went to public school after the 80s. Since it will take them until 35 to get their cognitive skills back from the brainwashing they got.
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 01:12 AM (Mxa6K)
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One of the horde said "Forcing 16 year old boys to read Jane Austen is a hate crime."
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 08, 2018 01:12 AM (rnAwa)
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No one should be permitted to read Huckleberry Finn until the age of 35.
Children won't get it, will get it wrong, and will walk away with the wrong ideas about it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:05 AM (fuK7c)
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Uummm.,...,..are you fcuking kidding me here?
Children won't get it, will get it wrong, and will walk away with the wrong ideas about it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:05 AM (fuK7c)
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Uummm.,...,..are you fcuking kidding me here?
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 08, 2018 01:14 AM (Qjvy3)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 01:14 AM (8iiMU)
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Mark Twain said a Classic was a book that everyone wants to have read, but nobody wants to read.
Posted by: mikeski at July 08, 2018 01:06 AM (P1f+c)
I love that and agree. I think I was too young. Or maybe I wasn't...maybe some depression and disillusionment was good for me. Definitely learned about symbolism and books and archetypes and writers. I can't fault my education...especially when I see what is going on now. Yea, on second thought, I think I should just count myself fortunate.
Posted by: mikeski at July 08, 2018 01:06 AM (P1f+c)
I love that and agree. I think I was too young. Or maybe I wasn't...maybe some depression and disillusionment was good for me. Definitely learned about symbolism and books and archetypes and writers. I can't fault my education...especially when I see what is going on now. Yea, on second thought, I think I should just count myself fortunate.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:15 AM (1lhwM)
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"No one should be permitted to read Huckleberry Finn until the age of 35. Children won't get it"
Twain himself opened the book with a "Notice" that "PERSONS attempting to find a motive in this narrative will be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished; persons attempting to find a plot in it will be shot."
Twain himself opened the book with a "Notice" that "PERSONS attempting to find a motive in this narrative will be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished; persons attempting to find a plot in it will be shot."
Posted by: Secret Square at July 08, 2018 01:17 AM (9WuX0)
455
Google removes egg from salad emoji, for "diversity" and "inclusiveness".
Google actually pays this woman money to do this.
https://twitter.com/jenniferdaniel/status/1004427564679458816
Google actually pays this woman money to do this.
https://twitter.com/jenniferdaniel/status/1004427564679458816
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 08, 2018 01:20 AM (GXOTw)
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452 I enjoyed reading Moby Dick in high school.
Iirc, and who knows, the boys in Jr. High loved it. The girls, not so much. We participated way less in the discussions.
Iirc, and who knows, the boys in Jr. High loved it. The girls, not so much. We participated way less in the discussions.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:20 AM (1lhwM)
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There was an e-mail going around this year showing some young golfer getting attacked on the golf course that we all meme'd up.
Those geese need to meet up with a golf club to the head.
There was an e-mail going around this year showing some young golfer getting attacked on the golf course that we all meme'd up.
Those geese need to meet up with a golf club to the head.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 08, 2018 01:20 AM (IqV8l)
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> Children won't get it, will get it wrong, and will walk away with the wrong ideas about it.
What "wrong idea" will they walk away with? That slavery is bad? That, despite having been raised to believe that slavery is just great, Huck decides to help his friend escape even at the cost of (as he's been taught) going to hell?
What "wrong idea" will they walk away with? That slavery is bad? That, despite having been raised to believe that slavery is just great, Huck decides to help his friend escape even at the cost of (as he's been taught) going to hell?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 08, 2018 01:22 AM (GXOTw)
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I enjoyed reading Moby Dick in high school.---
I am not much of a reader. But being a good listener I heard Moby Dick on Libravox. Seemed like a decent story with interesting characters. The having to share a bed with strangers at an inn seemed creepy. But that is likely just a difference of that time and place to what I am accustomed to.
I am not much of a reader. But being a good listener I heard Moby Dick on Libravox. Seemed like a decent story with interesting characters. The having to share a bed with strangers at an inn seemed creepy. But that is likely just a difference of that time and place to what I am accustomed to.
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 01:22 AM (Mxa6K)
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Uummm.,...,..are you fcuking kidding me here?
No. I'll elaborate.
I read Huck Finn in high school and resented having to read it because I thought it was a children's book and I was in the smart kids English class. I skimmed it enough to write a paper.
But I remember what my teacher said about it. He was better, and a more lasting influence on my thinking, than any college professor I ever had.
Reading it as an adult I loved it. I got the politics (he's anti-monarchy, anti-government, combine it with Connecticut Yankee and you basically have a libertarian blueprint).
The turning point where Huck decides to go to Hell to support his friend Jim, and the fact that he really believes in literal Hell so it's a big deal.
Obviously the point of the book is anti-racism so it's laughable that lefties keep trying to get the book banned for the N word. (Btw, Twain never refers to Jim as N__ Jim, that phrase is from a later critic. Neither the narrator nor Huck call Jim a N__, only other characters do).
Reading it in my 40s or 50s changed everything.
No. I'll elaborate.
I read Huck Finn in high school and resented having to read it because I thought it was a children's book and I was in the smart kids English class. I skimmed it enough to write a paper.
But I remember what my teacher said about it. He was better, and a more lasting influence on my thinking, than any college professor I ever had.
Reading it as an adult I loved it. I got the politics (he's anti-monarchy, anti-government, combine it with Connecticut Yankee and you basically have a libertarian blueprint).
The turning point where Huck decides to go to Hell to support his friend Jim, and the fact that he really believes in literal Hell so it's a big deal.
Obviously the point of the book is anti-racism so it's laughable that lefties keep trying to get the book banned for the N word. (Btw, Twain never refers to Jim as N__ Jim, that phrase is from a later critic. Neither the narrator nor Huck call Jim a N__, only other characters do).
Reading it in my 40s or 50s changed everything.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:22 AM (fuK7c)
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'Under the Volcano', Malcolm Lowery
In 1998 the Modern Library ranked Under the Volcano at number 11 on its list of the 100 best English-language novels of the 20th century.
I read it, and yet, and yet...was unmoved.
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'The Counterfeiters', Andre Gide
Wiki: " The Counterfeiters has gained reputation in the intervening years and is now generally counted among the Western Canon of literature. "
Yeah, well, the Western Canon sucks.
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The Cairo Trilogy, by Naguib Mahfouz, Nobel Prize Winner.
Explains why they gave Obama something.
In 1998 the Modern Library ranked Under the Volcano at number 11 on its list of the 100 best English-language novels of the 20th century.
I read it, and yet, and yet...was unmoved.
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'The Counterfeiters', Andre Gide
Wiki: " The Counterfeiters has gained reputation in the intervening years and is now generally counted among the Western Canon of literature. "
Yeah, well, the Western Canon sucks.
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The Cairo Trilogy, by Naguib Mahfouz, Nobel Prize Winner.
Explains why they gave Obama something.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 08, 2018 01:23 AM (sd+O2)
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451 No one should be permitted to read Huckleberry Finn until the age of 35.
Children won't get it, will get it wrong, and will walk away with the wrong ideas about it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:05 AM (fuK7c)
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Uummm.,...,..are you fcuking kidding me here?
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 08, 2018 01:14 AM (Qjvy3)
I have no idea if this is true, but it sounds like something Twain would do. Unseriously...or not. That was the thing. He was quite the character.
Children won't get it, will get it wrong, and will walk away with the wrong ideas about it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:05 AM (fuK7c)
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Uummm.,...,..are you fcuking kidding me here?
Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 08, 2018 01:14 AM (Qjvy3)
I have no idea if this is true, but it sounds like something Twain would do. Unseriously...or not. That was the thing. He was quite the character.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:24 AM (1lhwM)
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Those geese need to meet up with a golf club to the head.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 08, 2018 01:20 AM (IqV8l)
Canada and the USA need to revisit the migratory bird treaty and amend it to permit more culling/hunting of Canada geese. They have become virtual varmints. They are magnificent birds, and would be even more magnificent upon a platter after 4 hours in the oven at 375 degrees.
But good luck with such treaty revisions with fag boy Trudeau at the helm in Canada.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 08, 2018 01:20 AM (IqV8l)
Canada and the USA need to revisit the migratory bird treaty and amend it to permit more culling/hunting of Canada geese. They have become virtual varmints. They are magnificent birds, and would be even more magnificent upon a platter after 4 hours in the oven at 375 degrees.
But good luck with such treaty revisions with fag boy Trudeau at the helm in Canada.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 08, 2018 01:27 AM (a2xQ5)
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All that I know about getting fences painted, I learned from Tom Sawyer.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 08, 2018 01:27 AM (sd+O2)
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Canada and the USA need to revisit the migratory bird treaty and amend it to permit more culling/hunting of Canada geese.
Are they even migratory anymore? When I was a kid the big V-shaped flocks in the sky were a sign of the change of seasons.
These days it seems like 2/3 of them stick around to infest golf courses.
Are they even migratory anymore? When I was a kid the big V-shaped flocks in the sky were a sign of the change of seasons.
These days it seems like 2/3 of them stick around to infest golf courses.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:28 AM (fuK7c)
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Reading it in my 40s or 50s changed everything.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:22 AM (fuK7c)
Did it hurt you to have read it when you were young?
Did you have a better understanding of it's meaning after decades of lifes lessons?
O crap tell me how to impart that second line on the young instantly.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:22 AM (fuK7c)
Did it hurt you to have read it when you were young?
Did you have a better understanding of it's meaning after decades of lifes lessons?
O crap tell me how to impart that second line on the young instantly.
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 01:31 AM (Mxa6K)
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Are they even migratory anymore? When I was a kid the big V-shaped flocks in the sky were a sign of the change of seasons.
These days it seems like 2/3 of them stick around to infest golf courses.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:28 AM (fuK7c)
There seem to be resident populations, even here in Canada, and also migratory flocks. With the cooling ponds for power plants creating open water on ponds and lakes year-round, they don't need to migrate as much.
You could make a good case for culling the resident flocks, as they might represent a weakening of the migratory instinct, which would not serve the species well if the advance (or end, heh) of technology rendered the power plant cooling ponds obsolete.
These days it seems like 2/3 of them stick around to infest golf courses.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:28 AM (fuK7c)
There seem to be resident populations, even here in Canada, and also migratory flocks. With the cooling ponds for power plants creating open water on ponds and lakes year-round, they don't need to migrate as much.
You could make a good case for culling the resident flocks, as they might represent a weakening of the migratory instinct, which would not serve the species well if the advance (or end, heh) of technology rendered the power plant cooling ponds obsolete.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 08, 2018 01:33 AM (a2xQ5)
468
Google removes egg from salad emoji, for "diversity" and "inclusiveness".
Google actually pays this woman money to do this.
https://twitter.com/jenniferdaniel/status/1004427564679458816
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 08, 2018 01:20 AM (GXOTw)
If the Russians or Chinese don't launch a full scale invasion now, I think we are in the clear for a while. If removing the egg from the salad emoji was NOT the sign to invade, then I think we are going to be ok, they are not even thinking of such things.
Google actually pays this woman money to do this.
https://twitter.com/jenniferdaniel/status/1004427564679458816
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at July 08, 2018 01:20 AM (GXOTw)
If the Russians or Chinese don't launch a full scale invasion now, I think we are in the clear for a while. If removing the egg from the salad emoji was NOT the sign to invade, then I think we are going to be ok, they are not even thinking of such things.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 01:34 AM (n13/j)
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The having to share a bed with strangers at an inn
seemed creepy. But that is likely just a difference of that time and
place to what I am accustomed to.
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 01:22 AM (Mxa6K)
That scene was really, really, funny.
If I recall, Ishmael was sleeping, and Queequeg walks in, takes out his little idol, burns something in front of it, mumbles some prayer, and jumps into bed! Of course, he is completely tattooed up everywhere, completely different from Ishmael, and quite frightening to him.
Of course, we learn later that even though he is a 'pagan', he is the most Christian in deed.
seemed creepy. But that is likely just a difference of that time and
place to what I am accustomed to.
Posted by: X-ray at July 08, 2018 01:22 AM (Mxa6K)
That scene was really, really, funny.
If I recall, Ishmael was sleeping, and Queequeg walks in, takes out his little idol, burns something in front of it, mumbles some prayer, and jumps into bed! Of course, he is completely tattooed up everywhere, completely different from Ishmael, and quite frightening to him.
Of course, we learn later that even though he is a 'pagan', he is the most Christian in deed.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 01:38 AM (8iiMU)
470
Reading it in my 40s or 50s changed everything.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:22 AM (fuK7c)
If I had not had teachers explain it to me, I would have gotten that book wrong. I remember reading it thinking, why are they making me read this? Then, in class, I learned.
Though I hated how those books made me feel, it wasn't about my feelings primarily, it was about my brain and learning. It did, of course, change how I read books from then on. I was being taught. It's weird how I never really thought about all this until now.
If I had been assigned the books to read, without guidance, or socratic teaching methods, or class instruction and discussion; but was left to my own piddly, unformed mind, it would have been...disasterous.
So if teachers can't teach on these books correctly, maybe they shouldn't be in school. Wow, I can't believe I just typed that. The ONT is making me Think tonight. I don't like it. Also, has me grateful for a year of reading I always resented. This is not right! I call shenanigans. Stop it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:22 AM (fuK7c)
If I had not had teachers explain it to me, I would have gotten that book wrong. I remember reading it thinking, why are they making me read this? Then, in class, I learned.
Though I hated how those books made me feel, it wasn't about my feelings primarily, it was about my brain and learning. It did, of course, change how I read books from then on. I was being taught. It's weird how I never really thought about all this until now.
If I had been assigned the books to read, without guidance, or socratic teaching methods, or class instruction and discussion; but was left to my own piddly, unformed mind, it would have been...disasterous.
So if teachers can't teach on these books correctly, maybe they shouldn't be in school. Wow, I can't believe I just typed that. The ONT is making me Think tonight. I don't like it. Also, has me grateful for a year of reading I always resented. This is not right! I call shenanigans. Stop it.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:38 AM (1lhwM)
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So if teachers can't teach on these books correctly, maybe they shouldn't be in school. Wow, I can't believe I just typed that. The ONT is making me Think tonight. I don't like it. Also, has me grateful for a year of reading I always resented. This is not right! I call shenanigans. Stop it.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:38 AM (1lhwM)
This ONT, I think, it is a good ONT.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:38 AM (1lhwM)
This ONT, I think, it is a good ONT.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 01:40 AM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 01:42 AM (8iiMU)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:43 AM (fuK7c)
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452 I enjoyed reading Moby Dick in high school.
Iirc, and who knows, the boys in Jr. High loved it. The girls, not so much. We participated way less in the discussions.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:20 AM (1lhwM)
I am not sure I read it all the way through. From my understanding, it is a kind of an American Dante's Inferno. There is so much allegory and symbolism from the Bible and great works of literature, I wonder how many high school kids today would catch the references.. That is not an argument for not reading it, but for more reading of course. At this point, any time when they are not pecking at smart phones is winning.
Iirc, and who knows, the boys in Jr. High loved it. The girls, not so much. We participated way less in the discussions.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:20 AM (1lhwM)
I am not sure I read it all the way through. From my understanding, it is a kind of an American Dante's Inferno. There is so much allegory and symbolism from the Bible and great works of literature, I wonder how many high school kids today would catch the references.. That is not an argument for not reading it, but for more reading of course. At this point, any time when they are not pecking at smart phones is winning.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 01:43 AM (n13/j)
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I would be very much surprised if Mark Twain wrote Huckleberry Finn with the intent that it be explained by teachers to children in schools.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 08, 2018 01:44 AM (a2xQ5)
476
473
This ONT, I think, it is a good ONT.
Don't jump the gun. Someone might ask for medical advice.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:43 AM (fuK7c)
Or talk about those critters with the flat tails that knock down trees and build dams.
This ONT, I think, it is a good ONT.
Don't jump the gun. Someone might ask for medical advice.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:43 AM (fuK7c)
Or talk about those critters with the flat tails that knock down trees and build dams.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 01:44 AM (8iiMU)
477
Don't jump the gun. Someone might ask for medical advice.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:43 AM (fuK7c)
It's closing in on 0200 EDT and nobody has shown up drunk, weepy, and despondent. I'm going to throw caution to the wind and let go of my cynicism.
But I mean... I'm not putting it back in the case or anything. Just gonna set it over here on the couch next to me.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:43 AM (fuK7c)
It's closing in on 0200 EDT and nobody has shown up drunk, weepy, and despondent. I'm going to throw caution to the wind and let go of my cynicism.
But I mean... I'm not putting it back in the case or anything. Just gonna set it over here on the couch next to me.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 01:48 AM (y87Qq)
478
475
I would be very much surprised if Mark Twain wrote Huckleberry Finn with
the intent that it be explained by teachers to children in schools.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 08, 2018 01:44 AM (a2xQ5)
Speaking of Twain, I read his autobiography of Joan of Arc a year of so ago. It was fascinating. He wrote it from the point of view of an editor who translated the writing from a scribe that was with Joan. The editor (Twain's voice), and the scribe were fictional, but the events he wrote about were not.
I would be very much surprised if Mark Twain wrote Huckleberry Finn with
the intent that it be explained by teachers to children in schools.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 08, 2018 01:44 AM (a2xQ5)
Speaking of Twain, I read his autobiography of Joan of Arc a year of so ago. It was fascinating. He wrote it from the point of view of an editor who translated the writing from a scribe that was with Joan. The editor (Twain's voice), and the scribe were fictional, but the events he wrote about were not.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 01:48 AM (8iiMU)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 01:49 AM (8iiMU)
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Never drunk, weepy, AND despondent!
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 01:49 AM (n13/j)
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Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:22 AM (fuK7c)
Oh great, and now Bandersnatch has me wanting to read Huckleberry Finn again. Which has me thinking maybe I should reread some of those other books I hated.
Well this has just all gone to hell for me. Right in the toilet.
Oh great, and now Bandersnatch has me wanting to read Huckleberry Finn again. Which has me thinking maybe I should reread some of those other books I hated.
Well this has just all gone to hell for me. Right in the toilet.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:50 AM (1lhwM)
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Oh great, and now Bandersnatch has me wanting to read Huckleberry Finn again.
This may be the first time in my life that I've been a good influence on anyone.
This may be the first time in my life that I've been a good influence on anyone.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 01:52 AM (fuK7c)
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If people ever did ask me what to read for their education. I would say get a Norton's Anthology of American Literature. But get one from the 80s at the latest, before they started culling them for things like an egg in the salad enoji.
Posted by: Quint at July 08, 2018 01:52 AM (n13/j)
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Or talk about those critters with the flat tails that knock down trees and build dams.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 01:44 AM (8iiMU)
The Lesbians?
I keed.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 01:44 AM (8iiMU)
The Lesbians?
I keed.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:54 AM (1lhwM)
485
Or talk about those critters with the flat tails that knock down trees and build dams.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 01:44 AM (8iiMU)
*nods*
Sapphus vagarii?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 01:44 AM (8iiMU)
*nods*
Sapphus vagarii?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 01:54 AM (y87Qq)
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Well this has just all gone to hell for me. Right in the toilet.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:50 AM (1lhwM)
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No worries! No toilet!
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:50 AM (1lhwM)
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No worries! No toilet!
Posted by: San Francisco at July 08, 2018 01:54 AM (mEkC/)
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"So if teachers can't teach on these books correctly, maybe they shouldn't be in school."
This is one psychologically corrects one's thought processes and values, given teachers who get books wrong:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y82v2bnm
"So if teachers can't teach on these books correctly, maybe they shouldn't be in school."
This is one psychologically corrects one's thought processes and values, given teachers who get books wrong:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y82v2bnm
Posted by: Arbalest at July 08, 2018 01:54 AM (FlRtG)
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 01:55 AM (y87Qq)
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484 Or talk about those critters with the flat tails that knock down trees and build dams.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 01:44 AM (8iiMU)
The Lesbians?
I keed.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:54 AM (1lhwM)
Oh crap. That came out wrong. This is a reference to Miley's Lesbians from earlier posts.
Geez, I can't even fvck up the ONT right.
A pox on you all for making me think and consider re-reading some classical books. Dammit.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 01:44 AM (8iiMU)
The Lesbians?
I keed.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:54 AM (1lhwM)
Oh crap. That came out wrong. This is a reference to Miley's Lesbians from earlier posts.
Geez, I can't even fvck up the ONT right.
A pox on you all for making me think and consider re-reading some classical books. Dammit.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:56 AM (1lhwM)
Posted by: Arbalest at July 08, 2018 01:58 AM (FlRtG)
491
Sapphus vagarii?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 01:54 AM (y87Qq)
Wayyy better than mine. I have scrambled brains now.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 01:54 AM (y87Qq)
Wayyy better than mine. I have scrambled brains now.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:58 AM (1lhwM)
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I look up and the TV has a pic of Mark Twain. I kid you not. Luckily, it was just some commercial. It's gone now, thank goodness.
*head thunk*
*head thunk*
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 02:01 AM (1lhwM)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 02:01 AM (fuK7c)
494
What's the story behind that flag at the top? It looks very distressed.
Posted by: sinalco at July 08, 2018 02:02 AM (yODqO)
495
Wayyy better than mine. I have scrambled brains now.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:58 AM (1lhwM)
Nah. I just did a lot of research on them in school. Didn't publish or anything. Just reviewed a lot of field notes. Wasn't even relevant to my major.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 01:58 AM (1lhwM)
Nah. I just did a lot of research on them in school. Didn't publish or anything. Just reviewed a lot of field notes. Wasn't even relevant to my major.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 08, 2018 02:03 AM (y87Qq)
496
What's the story behind that flag at the top? It looks very distressed.
Hmm. Right click. Search google for image.
"Best guess for this image: God"
Hmm. Right click. Search google for image.
"Best guess for this image: God"
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 02:04 AM (fuK7c)
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found this disturbing tale at the "How Beautiful We Were" link...
http://americandigest.org/wp/the-second-lieutenant/
http://americandigest.org/wp/the-second-lieutenant/
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 08, 2018 02:05 AM (IuPpm)
498
one thing that i hated about "English" classes in college, and that i never really understood.
it was always "what was the author *really* trying to say?"
read his Fing words you pompous idiot: he meant what he said. this "metaphor" BS is just that. if he had a deeper meaning, he would have written a philosophy paper, not a novel. he's just telling a story.
fing ruined reading the "great " literature for me, because instead of being enjoyable, i was supposed to make up shit that agreed with whatever delusions my professor had about the "deeper" meanings.
it was always "what was the author *really* trying to say?"
read his Fing words you pompous idiot: he meant what he said. this "metaphor" BS is just that. if he had a deeper meaning, he would have written a philosophy paper, not a novel. he's just telling a story.
fing ruined reading the "great " literature for me, because instead of being enjoyable, i was supposed to make up shit that agreed with whatever delusions my professor had about the "deeper" meanings.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 08, 2018 02:11 AM (IuPpm)
499
I now have a hankering to re-read Moby Dick...if I can find my copy. It was a Penguin edition with all the important stuff marked up in it.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 08, 2018 02:13 AM (8iiMU)
500
Don't jump the gun. Someone might ask for medical advice.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
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What could go wrong?...we have experts.
NGU's advice today re toothbrushing was epic.
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What could go wrong?...we have experts.
NGU's advice today re toothbrushing was epic.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 08, 2018 02:16 AM (0+2a1)
501
read his Fing words you pompous idiot: he meant what he said.
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You simply haven't been properly schooled in Deconstruction.
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You simply haven't been properly schooled in Deconstruction.
Posted by: The Modern Language Association at July 08, 2018 02:17 AM (0+2a1)
502
You simply haven't been properly schooled in Deconstruction.
Posted by: The Modern Language Association at July 08, 2018 02:17 AM (0+2a1)
But we have!
Posted by: The Modern Language Association at July 08, 2018 02:17 AM (0+2a1)
But we have!
Posted by: antifa assholes at July 08, 2018 02:21 AM (8iiMU)
503
You simply haven't been properly schooled in Deconstruction.
Posted by: The Modern Language Association at July 08, 2018 02:17 AM (0+2a1)
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true dat: i never got any formal demolitions training, but i have the FM, and i know that the "P" in any charge calculation stands for "Plenty".
does that w*rk?
Posted by: The Modern Language Association at July 08, 2018 02:17 AM (0+2a1)
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true dat: i never got any formal demolitions training, but i have the FM, and i know that the "P" in any charge calculation stands for "Plenty".
does that w*rk?
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 08, 2018 02:21 AM (IuPpm)
504
498
one thing that i hated about "English" classes in college, and that i never really understood.
it was always "what was the author *really* trying to say?"
read
his Fing words you pompous idiot: he meant what he said. this
"metaphor" BS is just that. if he had a deeper meaning, he would have
written a philosophy paper, not a novel. he's just telling a story.
fing
ruined reading the "great " literature for me, because instead of being
enjoyable, i was supposed to make up shit that agreed with whatever
delusions my professor had about the "deeper" meanings.
Posted by: redc1c4
The 'deeper meaning' of Moby Dick was get a bigger boat and use better weapons, like a Tomahawk missle.
one thing that i hated about "English" classes in college, and that i never really understood.
it was always "what was the author *really* trying to say?"
read
his Fing words you pompous idiot: he meant what he said. this
"metaphor" BS is just that. if he had a deeper meaning, he would have
written a philosophy paper, not a novel. he's just telling a story.
fing
ruined reading the "great " literature for me, because instead of being
enjoyable, i was supposed to make up shit that agreed with whatever
delusions my professor had about the "deeper" meanings.
Posted by: redc1c4
The 'deeper meaning' of Moby Dick was get a bigger boat and use better weapons, like a Tomahawk missle.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 08, 2018 02:24 AM (peJQi)
505
i was supposed to make up shit that agreed with whatever delusions my professor had about the "deeper" meanings.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 08, 2018 02:11 AM (IuPpm)
This really does describe English departments so well.
I remember a critique of the aforementioned Huck Finn cenetered around ignoring the last part of the book entirely out of a desire to develop a heroic character arc for Huck.
The last section has Huck mostly regressing back to the mean, he meets up with Tom again and falls right back into his old habits of following Tom around and acting as an accomplice to his antics. The book itself undercuts the point they want to make about Huck "evolving" to be better than the violent Southern riffraff when he just returns to the same boy he was once reaching a familiar setting again.
So even the story itself must be ignored in favor of the narrative as interpreted by English majors.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 08, 2018 02:11 AM (IuPpm)
This really does describe English departments so well.
I remember a critique of the aforementioned Huck Finn cenetered around ignoring the last part of the book entirely out of a desire to develop a heroic character arc for Huck.
The last section has Huck mostly regressing back to the mean, he meets up with Tom again and falls right back into his old habits of following Tom around and acting as an accomplice to his antics. The book itself undercuts the point they want to make about Huck "evolving" to be better than the violent Southern riffraff when he just returns to the same boy he was once reaching a familiar setting again.
So even the story itself must be ignored in favor of the narrative as interpreted by English majors.
Posted by: Sjg at July 08, 2018 02:25 AM (gDSJf)
506
Oh, and I don't know what the justification for Tom Sawyer is. He's a dick.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 02:26 AM (fuK7c)
507
The fact that Huck disguises himself as a girl clearly indicates Mark Twain's suppressed transexuality.
Posted by: The Modern Language Association at July 08, 2018 02:32 AM (R+Cqa)
508
441 I would except only The Owl and the Pussycat, which was funny.
Especially if you can find the sole remaining copy of the version where Babs is topless in one scene. She has supposedly brought up and destroyed all of the prints of that version.
Posted by: Fox2! at July 08, 2018 01:06 AM (UQBWn)
I did not know this. So I did some looking and found this.
Bab's Boobs.
https://tinyurl.com/y8g6fv52
Do you think it's for real?
Especially if you can find the sole remaining copy of the version where Babs is topless in one scene. She has supposedly brought up and destroyed all of the prints of that version.
Posted by: Fox2! at July 08, 2018 01:06 AM (UQBWn)
I did not know this. So I did some looking and found this.
Bab's Boobs.
https://tinyurl.com/y8g6fv52
Do you think it's for real?
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 02:32 AM (1lhwM)
509
The fact that Huck disguises himself as a girl clearly indicates Mark Twain's suppressed transexuality.
Posted by: The Modern Language Association at July 08, 2018 02:32 AM (R+Cqa)
LOL
Transexuality joke and Boobs, now the ONT life force is restored.
Posted by: The Modern Language Association at July 08, 2018 02:32 AM (R+Cqa)
LOL
Transexuality joke and Boobs, now the ONT life force is restored.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 02:34 AM (1lhwM)
510
Transexuality joke and Boobs, now the ONT life force is restored.
Posted by: platypus
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We at the Modern Language Association don't make jokes.
Posted by: platypus
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We at the Modern Language Association don't make jokes.
Posted by: The Modern Language Association at July 08, 2018 02:36 AM (+cu3S)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 08, 2018 02:38 AM (+cu3S)
512
Do you think it's for real?
Absolutely. It's only about 3 frames, but it's real.
As far as buying up all the copies goes, there's the internet...
Absolutely. It's only about 3 frames, but it's real.
As far as buying up all the copies goes, there's the internet...
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 02:38 AM (fuK7c)
513
Goodnight Mike Hammer.
====================
Do you think it's for real?
Absolutely. It's only about 3 frames, but it's real.
As far as buying up all the copies goes, there's the internet...
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 02:38 AM (fuK7c)
Yea, but this was way pre-internet, pre-VHS and DVD. If she got the original destroyed, then poof.
The person who bought this lot got a steal then. Heck, maybe it was Babs that bought it. Doubt she knows this is out there. I don't even know how I found it. I'm surprised since it was sold it is still visible...the picture.
====================
Do you think it's for real?
Absolutely. It's only about 3 frames, but it's real.
As far as buying up all the copies goes, there's the internet...
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 08, 2018 02:38 AM (fuK7c)
Yea, but this was way pre-internet, pre-VHS and DVD. If she got the original destroyed, then poof.
The person who bought this lot got a steal then. Heck, maybe it was Babs that bought it. Doubt she knows this is out there. I don't even know how I found it. I'm surprised since it was sold it is still visible...the picture.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 02:49 AM (1lhwM)
514
The person who bought this lot got a steal then. Heck, maybe it was Babs that bought it. Doubt she knows this is out there. I don't even know how I found it. I'm surprised since it was sold it is still visible...the picture.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 02:49 AM (1lhwM)
Well, her hope chest has probably descended a little since that picture was taken.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 02:49 AM (1lhwM)
Well, her hope chest has probably descended a little since that picture was taken.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 08, 2018 02:56 AM (a2xQ5)
515
And I am off to the snoozer. Be well, Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 08, 2018 03:00 AM (a2xQ5)
516
I was gonna accuse Mark Twain of killing the ONT, but just saw the time...the birds will be up soon.
I also noticed my site link was to all kinds of old time movie star nudes. So, any horde awake are now probably over there. I just saw a full frontal of Errol Flynn myself. The Betty White one shocked me. Betty White! I can't believe that's real.
Well, at least I feel I gave the ONT a small gift and ended it on the right note. With boobehs.
Nite all.
I also noticed my site link was to all kinds of old time movie star nudes. So, any horde awake are now probably over there. I just saw a full frontal of Errol Flynn myself. The Betty White one shocked me. Betty White! I can't believe that's real.
Well, at least I feel I gave the ONT a small gift and ended it on the right note. With boobehs.
Nite all.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 08, 2018 03:04 AM (1lhwM)
Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 08, 2018 03:10 AM (5m/2a)
518
Why in the hell is buying a house such a PITA? On the other hand, I'm finally jettisoning my transient ways.
Posted by: Bert G at July 08, 2018 03:35 AM (yzxic)
519
John Roberts
@johnrobertsFox
Sources tell @FoxNews that the White House is preparing 4 rollout packages for @realDonaldTrump nomination announcement. The 4 are Kavanaugh, Kethledge, Barrett...and...Thomas Hardiman
8:16 AM - 6 Jul 2018
Prediction:
Trump: "In the mold of Clarence Thomas, I would like to introduce the next Supreme Court Justice - Amul Thapar"
@johnrobertsFox
Sources tell @FoxNews that the White House is preparing 4 rollout packages for @realDonaldTrump nomination announcement. The 4 are Kavanaugh, Kethledge, Barrett...and...Thomas Hardiman
8:16 AM - 6 Jul 2018
Prediction:
Trump: "In the mold of Clarence Thomas, I would like to introduce the next Supreme Court Justice - Amul Thapar"
Posted by: Trigger Warning at July 08, 2018 03:56 AM (YRXy3)
520
Trump: "In the mold of Clarence Thomas, I would like to introduce the next Supreme Court Justice - Amul Thapar"
Posted by: Trigger Warning at July 08, 2018 03:56 AM (YRXy3)
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all hail Justice Fapper!
Posted by: Trigger Warning at July 08, 2018 03:56 AM (YRXy3)
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all hail Justice Fapper!
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 08, 2018 04:57 AM (IuPpm)
521
My favorite chapter of Huck Finn is when Tom Sawyer shoots that guy with long blond hair right after Huck shoots Hans Gruber.*
* Yes, I've been drinking. So what?
* Yes, I've been drinking. So what?
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical at July 08, 2018 05:02 AM (H5knJ)
522
I'm so fuckin' sad right now. My Dad doesn't understand a One Step Process for feeding the dogs.
They don't trust the feeding process because he puts pills in their bowls. They both smell the medicine and won't eat.
I had to wash out their bowls and feed them when I should be sound asleep. --He can't feed the dogs anymore.
He wets their food for some reason and I can't get him to understand that they don't eat it that way. They never did.
I'm angry that I'm awake, but I kept my patience. Thank God for that.
They don't trust the feeding process because he puts pills in their bowls. They both smell the medicine and won't eat.
I had to wash out their bowls and feed them when I should be sound asleep. --He can't feed the dogs anymore.
He wets their food for some reason and I can't get him to understand that they don't eat it that way. They never did.
I'm angry that I'm awake, but I kept my patience. Thank God for that.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 08, 2018 05:02 AM (Ckg4U)
523
Sorry, Slap. You're doing the Lord's work, even if it does not feel that way.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical at July 08, 2018 05:05 AM (H5knJ)
524
Fuck it. In for a Penny, in for a Pound.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 08, 2018 05:06 AM (Ckg4U)
525
My favorite chapter of Huck Finn is when Tom Sawyer shoots that guy with long blond hair right after Huck shoots Hans Gruber.*
* Yes, I've been drinking. So what?
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical at July 08, 2018 05:02 AM (H5knJ)
If only movies had been around in the 19th century. Twain would have written action screenplays and generations of students would have been spared his crappy books.
* Yes, I've been drinking. So what?
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical at July 08, 2018 05:02 AM (H5knJ)
If only movies had been around in the 19th century. Twain would have written action screenplays and generations of students would have been spared his crappy books.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 08, 2018 05:06 AM (/qEW2)
526
Dingleberry Finn. Feh.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 08, 2018 05:08 AM (/qEW2)
527
I'm sorry to hear about your dad, Slap. I pray you be granted rest, strength and peace.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 08, 2018 05:13 AM (IDhUW)
528
Today will be the Church of sleep, lawn-mowing and Budweiser.
...wish me luck and light a candle.
*static*
...wish me luck and light a candle.
*static*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 08, 2018 05:15 AM (Ckg4U)
529
*unstatic*
Thank You, Bear and Kestrel. I would be remiss to dash without thanking everyone.
*static*
Thank You, Bear and Kestrel. I would be remiss to dash without thanking everyone.
*static*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Now 17% More Elite! at July 08, 2018 05:17 AM (Ckg4U)
530
Is it ok to crash here ? Starbucks is closed.
Posted by: Jericho57 at July 08, 2018 05:44 AM (JI4IJ)
531
Been up a hour , just got my tablet.
Are some StarBux open 24/7?
Are some StarBux open 24/7?
Posted by: Skip at July 08, 2018 05:57 AM (pHfeF)
532
Is it ok to crash here ? Starbucks is closed.
Posted by: Jericho57 at July 08, 2018 05:44 AM (JI4IJ)
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They're burnt coffee sucks ass anyway.. Dunkin Donuts opens at 5 a.m., and has great coffee.
Posted by: Jericho57 at July 08, 2018 05:44 AM (JI4IJ)
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They're burnt coffee sucks ass anyway.. Dunkin Donuts opens at 5 a.m., and has great coffee.
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