Weekend Gun Thread

Wow. Hey Honey, can I have one of these rooms?

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113 years old and still growing in popularity, John Browning invented the cartridge that would be known as the .45 ACP for a military trial in 1905.

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A persuasive point made by Senator John Kennedy.
“One grocery store doesn’t get so big that it lends and borrows and buys and sells from nearly every other grocery store in the country. These banks do. A grocery store also doesn’t need or get an $812.3 billion bailout from the American taxpayers,” Sen. John Kennedy

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The death of control is coming or so we hope.

Building a 1911 at your kitchen table? How cool would that be? Pretty damn cool!

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Clearing your house. an act of last resort.

How do you investigate this possible home intrusion quickly and safely? How do you navigate through your house in a way that maximizes your safety when there could be a possible attacker on the prowl?
Today we’re going to walk you through how to effectively clear your home. In the tactical world, “clearing a building” simply means investigating the premises for a suspected intruder. A building is “cleared” if you confirm the suspect isn’t there or you neutralize the threat.

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California, the gun cray-cray continues. Parts is parts law.

The California Bill utter contempt for one's Second Amendment rights.
h/t red1C14

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Victims of a terrible boating accident.

If people are sending in collections, I have a few. Up top is a Liberty Silencers Leonidas integrally silenced 300blk, M&P15,
Pistols top row left to right Taurus PT58 .380, Springfield XD 9mm, Ruger SR22, Bottom Row left to right: Ruger Wiley Clapp GP100, Springfield Armory Range Officer Compact .45, S&W M&P Shield 9mm. I'm a lurker so no name, but I'm a daily reader of Ace for over 10 years.

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An improvised bipod while shooting.

h/t redc141c

Extra range time, spare eye and ear protection and ammo can be sent to the Weekend Gun Thread at petmorons at gmail dot com.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 07:09 PM

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1 First!

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 24, 2018 07:10 PM (+Dllb)

2 And I broke down and bought the Ruger PC 9 Carbine today at Bass Pro for $549.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 24, 2018 07:11 PM (+Dllb)

3
Is that the armory for Commissar Hogg's armed guards?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 24, 2018 07:11 PM (SiINZ)

4 I'm liking the improvised bipod but I'm pretty sure it's going to be a tough sell at the range with my shooting partner. She's a better shot than I am and I cant run that fast anymore.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2018 07:12 PM (9rIkM)

5 Damn that canoe accident

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 07:13 PM (6Ll1u)

6 Hmm.. that last pic.. doesn't the barrel get a tad warm??

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 24, 2018 07:13 PM (5tSKk)

7 Was mentioning earlier - am in Best Virginia for an extended stay and the place is Constitutional carry - open & concealed - and it's nice. Had a couple 'Wut kinda pistol izzat, Mister?' moments here, and one with a sheriff's deputy. Friendly and fun, the way it SHOULD be.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:13 PM (fA1SL)

8 What on earth are those on the bottom row of long guns against the far wall up there? I think the one on the right is a KSG, but I can't place the one on the left at all.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:14 PM (fZuhk)

9 Scotsman, I'm jealous.

Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 07:14 PM (ItIzi)

10 I have even less to contribute here than I did on the Food Thread.

Caio for now.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:14 PM (e5f4b)

11 Maxine Waters orders MORE public harassment of Trump aides: 'God is on OUR side!'

Speaking to about a dozen white people a completely inarticulate mad woman rants and raves

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 24, 2018 07:15 PM (SiINZ)

12 Mish is not a viable bipod

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2018 07:15 PM (pHfeF)

13 Caio for now.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:14 PM (e5f4b)

OK. Have a nice spider! I mean scorpion!

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:16 PM (fZuhk)

14 Highlight of my weekend: seeing experty expert Tom Nichols' book about being the expertingest expert that ever experted get expertly blown away by a .50cal rifle.

Posted by: Bert G at June 24, 2018 07:17 PM (yzxic)

15 I have one of those small Colt .45s. Not very accurate at a distance but will fit in your jacket pocket or back pocket.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 24, 2018 07:17 PM (mpXpK)

16 Trump says illegal immigrants should be deported with 'no judges or court cases'

His proposal drew immediate criticism from legal analysts and immigrant rights advocates who said it would violate the U.S. Constitution's due process provision, which applies to citizens and non-citizens alike.

Really? So now our laws apply to people who aren't citizens

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 24, 2018 07:18 PM (SiINZ)

17 Here a pic of the book referred to in my #14:

https://tinyurl.com/ycedrqov

Posted by: Bert G at June 24, 2018 07:19 PM (yzxic)

18 Maxine Waters orders MORE public harassment of Trump aides: 'God is on OUR side!'

It's is whether you are on God's side. Abe Lincoln taught me that. I'm paraphrasing Abe...it is not whether God is on their side or our side, what matters is if we are God's side.

Never forgot it.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:20 PM (e5f4b)

19 That clip on 3-D gun printing is very good. The crypto-anarchist guy is right to make it a First Amendment issue as well as a Second Amendment right -- they're just sharing information.

And information wants to be free!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 24, 2018 07:20 PM (gUCYC)

20 I think that'd is a race between Leftifornia and the People's republic of New Jersey inwhocan ban all firearms first.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2018 07:20 PM (pHfeF)

21 Posted this earlier but you all might enjoy it. Spent yesterday at WeaselAcres engaged in research.

https://tinyurl.com/y9osmxxw

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:21 PM (MVjcR)

22 I'm guessing even in castle doctrine states that if you come home, see your home is broken into, and actively walk through to clear it and end up shooting the robber that you're still going to be in a lot of trouble for not calling the cops first

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 07:21 PM (VgKNm)

23 I think Mrs. E wants and integrally suppressed M ampersand P AR15/22. And yeah, I'll probably get her one.

Posted by: Eromero at June 24, 2018 07:22 PM (zLDYs)

24 My uncle was a master gunsmith and my Dad was craftsman at building boats. I wish I had paid more attention to both.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2018 07:22 PM (ZPQYY)

25 OK. Have a nice spider! I mean scorpion!
Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:16 PM (fZuhk)

Well, I'll be nekkid and soaped up in the shower so I should be fine. Daddy Long Leg spiders don't bother me. But any other bug....aaccckkkkk!

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:22 PM (e5f4b)

26
Here's some schooling for you louts on your disgusting dungarees:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/dkrbb3

I wore a pair of dungarees. Once. Only once.

[That's from '09. He doesn't call them dungarees there. Someone must've pointed out the louts might not understand the word "dungarees"]

Posted by: George Will at June 24, 2018 07:23 PM (8O3HH)

27 Really? So now our laws apply to people who aren't citizens
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 24, 2018 07:18 PM (SiINZ)

They kinda do though. Some, but not all. Here's the full text of the 5th amendment:

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

Doesn't say dick about citizenship. It just says "person".

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:23 PM (fZuhk)

28 What on earth are those on the bottom row of long guns against the far wall up there? I think the one on the right is a KSG, but I can't place the one on the left at all.

I think the one one the left is a Kel-Tec KSG and the other is a UTAS UTS-15.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 24, 2018 07:23 PM (7oUUT)

29 Welp, a bit disappointed this weekend. I went diving and retrieved my K31 from the bottom of the lake so I could participate in a High Power match yesterday and darn the luck, not enough people showed up so we could hold the match.

Ah well, I'm off on a canoing trip with my rifle again.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at June 24, 2018 07:23 PM (WEBkv)

30 That room is missing something...

Oh yeah.

A tank.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 07:24 PM (DEtB+)

31 Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:21 PM (MVjcR)

Weasel, is that really you? I pictured you sooooo differently.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:24 PM (e5f4b)

32 Okay, so, observations from visiting for a while in a constitutional carry state where a shit-ton of folks open carry:
1. Glock is very popular
2. Springfield Armory is probably second most popular
3. I see very few revolvers, but the ones I can see are full-sized .357.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:25 PM (fA1SL)

33 What on earth are those on the bottom row of long guns against the far wall up there? I think the one on the right is a KSG, but I can't place the one on the left at all.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:14 PM (fZuhk)

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I figured it was one of those new fancy shotguns, but I've been wrong before. Earlier today, believe it or not.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 07:25 PM (VgKNm)

34 As much as I like 45 auto pistols, I like the cartridge even more. Using the 45 acp cylinder in an old Blackhawk shows just how accurate and comfortable the cartridge can be.

Posted by: JTB at June 24, 2018 07:25 PM (V+03K)

35 Last week I posted a picture of my first Beretta 92 action pistol, the 92S. Here is my most recent, a 92FS Inox, that is, in-oxidable, or as we call it, stainless.

https://flic.kr/s/aHskDrAYcN

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 07:25 PM (yQpMk)

36
Weasel, is that really you? I pictured you sooooo differently.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:24 PM (e5f4b)
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Yup. That's me.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:26 PM (MVjcR)

37 I think the one one the left is a Kel-Tec KSG and the other is a UTAS UTS-15.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 24, 2018 07:23 PM (7oUUT)

I think you're correct about the UTS-15 and the KSG but wrong about the sides. KSGs have that buttplate that extends below the stock, so that's on the right as you face them. I didn't know about the UTS-15, but you're correct except it looks like that could be the one on the left; it's got that huge blocky receiver that goes all the way to the muzzle.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:26 PM (fZuhk)

38 The Springfield Range Officer is a great entry level comp. gun...or just a real nice 1911.

Posted by: BignJames at June 24, 2018 07:26 PM (0+nbW)

39 No, I'm wrong. I have them exactly backwards. That's what I get for googling but not actually reading. Sorry.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 24, 2018 07:26 PM (7oUUT)

40 In the process of buying my first gun in California...

Not first gun, just first gun here.

These people are whacked.

I must show ID, take a test ($25), take another bill or something in to prove I live in Calif, then once my gun gets here, 10 day waiting period while both the State and the Feds, oh, and COUNTY, can stop the gun sale.

Oh, and either a trigger lock, or proof of a gun safe... by producing a bill of sale as proof (yeah, like I have a bill of sale for my 25 year old gun safe).

Can you imagine the outcry if these limitations were put on abortions? or voting?

Some Rights are more equal than others.

/spit

Posted by: Don Q at June 24, 2018 07:27 PM (NgKpN)

41 35. Grump! Why you get pistol in veak, effeminate europellet calibre when you own not one but two fists of the SMR?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:27 PM (fA1SL)

42 America owns 400 million weapons noq

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 07:27 PM (6Ll1u)

43 Weasel, wrong thread but are there still Weaselfish?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2018 07:28 PM (ZPQYY)

44 Bipod for the win!

Posted by: backbeatbaby at June 24, 2018 07:29 PM (w7KSn)

45 35 & 41. Is for same reason I have CZ75? For use ammo captured from enemies?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:30 PM (fA1SL)

46 Only thing missing from that room is an RPG.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2018 07:30 PM (ZPQYY)

47 Weasel, is that really you? I pictured you sooooo differently.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:24 PM (e5f4b)
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Yup. That's me.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:26 PM (MVjcR)

You are a good looking dud and all, but I pictured you sooooo differently. I'll have to cobble together something to explain maybe. I guess from your posts I saw a sweet, mushy, gentle soul. I didn't not expect the armored shell!!

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:30 PM (e5f4b)

48 America owns 400 million weapons noq

*Looks in safe. Counts on fingers.*

Somebody somewhere ain't doing their part.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 24, 2018 07:30 PM (7oUUT)

49 Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:26 PM (MVjcR)

I was wondering why you had earpro but weren't wearing it.

What can do you have? Does it really not make a difference?

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:30 PM (fZuhk)

50
Doesn't say dick about citizenship. It just says "person".
Posted by: hogmartin

What if I have been officially declared an unperson?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 24, 2018 07:31 PM (IqV8l)

51 35 & 41. Is for same reason I have CZ75? For use ammo captured from enemies?

*touches nose*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 07:31 PM (yQpMk)

52 A majority, a little more thant half of all Border Patrol agents - 51 percent - were Hispanic or Latino

Posted by: undocumented illegal Martin Luther King Jr at June 24, 2018 07:31 PM (e8kgV)

53 48.
* inventories *

Picking up the slack here, boss!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:31 PM (fA1SL)

54
https://tinyurl.com/y9osmxxw
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:21 PM (MVjcR)
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Weasel, can I count on WeaselAcres as a redoubt in case my plans for being Imperatrix of my own island fall through?

We live in unstable times.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 24, 2018 07:31 PM (gUCYC)

55 43 Weasel, wrong thread but are there still Weaselfish?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2018 07:28 PM (ZPQYY)
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Yes! All good in the tank with the population happy and stable at 5. Bad news from the vet on WeaselCat v1. She's 18 years old and her kidneys are failing quickly.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:31 PM (RxVuE)

56 Doesn't say dick about citizenship. It just says "person".

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:23 PM (fZuhk)

Screw it. Get rid of them immediately

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 24, 2018 07:32 PM (SiINZ)

57 Picking up the slack there.

Posted by: Boss Toby at June 24, 2018 07:32 PM (yQpMk)

58 22
I'm guessing even in castle doctrine states that if you come home, see
your home is broken into, and actively walk through to clear it and end
up shooting the robber that you're still going to be in a lot of trouble
for not calling the cops first

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 07:21 PM (VgKNm)

In CA yes, in SC no. Lesson to be learned, don't live in Commiefornia.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 24, 2018 07:32 PM (mpXpK)

59 What if I have been officially declared an unperson?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 24, 2018 07:31 PM (IqV8l)

Then I think you're in the same category as international waters, so fly a flag of convenience and host some monkey knife fights.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:32 PM (fZuhk)

60
Weasel, can I count on WeaselAcres as a redoubt in case my plans for being Imperatrix of my own island fall through?

We live in unstable times.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 24, 2018 07:31 PM (gUCYC)
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Of course you can!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:33 PM (RxVuE)

61 52 A majority, a little more thant half of all Border Patrol agents - 51 percent - were Hispanic or Latino
Posted by: undocumented illegal Martin Luther King Jr at June 24, 2018 07:31 PM (e8kgV)

Reason? Spanish as a second language is a BIG boost to getting hired in the first place.

Posted by: Don Q at June 24, 2018 07:33 PM (NgKpN)

62 Still jonesing for the Sig 365. Haven't found one yet when I've had the cash. Hmm.

There's some kinda message in that.

I've got the sound on computer muted. Weasel, that was full auto yes? 3 round burst?

Posted by: weirdflunky at June 24, 2018 07:33 PM (0yb3H)

63 Thanks Weasel!

I'll even police spent brass or whatever.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 24, 2018 07:33 PM (gUCYC)

64 Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 07:24 PM (DE

LOL

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 24, 2018 07:33 PM (3Pma+)

65 Even though it's not quite sunset, I just went and took in my flag because a thunderstorm is bearing down on me. That was good timing. I can hear the thunder now.

Posted by: rickl at June 24, 2018 07:34 PM (sdi6R)

66 61. Ayup. Also, their postings tend to be in heavily Tex-Mex regions. It would be shocking if it were otherwise.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:34 PM (fA1SL)

67 In a moment of weakness, I also ordered one of these on Friday: http://bit.ly/2K9x1FH

$229 +14 shipping +20 to my FFL.

I could not say no since it will use the same mags and holsters as my CZ82s.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 07:34 PM (yQpMk)

68 America owns 400 million weapons noq

*Looks in safe. Counts on fingers.*

Somebody somewhere ain't doing their part.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 24, 2018 07:30 PM (7oUUT)

Well, America has around 300 million people, iirc. So that works. Doubt they counted all the illegal guns.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:35 PM (e5f4b)

69 67. You are a wise man. Czech quality is second to none.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:35 PM (fA1SL)

70 and since it's blued and not collectable, I will fix it's worn appearance like I did on the M57.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 07:35 PM (yQpMk)

71 Any comments on the Ruger 9mm carbine? It shares a common magazine with their Security 9mm and will take Glock mags with an adapter (included.)

Thinking about buying both.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at June 24, 2018 07:36 PM (iiixZ)

72 Screw it. Get rid of them immediately
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 24, 2018 07:32 PM (SiINZ)

I don't know, I think the amendments in the bill of rights are worth keeping around, if I get any say in it.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:36 PM (fZuhk)

73 As to the bailout of very rich people. The bailout was supposedly paid back with interest.

Think about that. It means that Obama increased the debt by the bailout plus interest. Obama and the democrats put at least another trillion dollars on. By my reckoning, and math is my strong point, $12 trillion Preezy "almost went banko in my personal life until I got a fake book deal " SHIT MIDAS.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 24, 2018 07:37 PM (pw+jk)

74
I've got the sound on computer muted. Weasel, that was full auto yes? 3 round burst?
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 24, 2018 07:33 PM (0yb3H)
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Yes. Full auto with 40 round magazines. Not my best effort hit-wise, the steel plate was swinging so much I had a hard time keeping it in the rear peep sight. Towards the end I just dumped the last 30 or so.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:37 PM (RxVuE)

75 Eris, we don't call it the TX MoMe and strategic planning session for nothing.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2018 07:38 PM (ZPQYY)

76 72. Counter-argument : the Founders never presumed to legislate for anyone other than Americans. I mean, does our Second Amendment mean that Limey gun laws are null and void?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:38 PM (fA1SL)

77 I would not hold out John Kennedy as an example of anything apart from Celtic affirmative action.

He was a useless loser, a naval officer obviously derelict in his duty, and a hopeless philanderer, who became President only because his psychopathic father bought the Presidency for him, along with gross electoral fraud, he impressed Khruschev as a callow youth (which he was), which induced Khruschev to put missiles into Cuba (Cuber?) and almost started WWWIII but for Oleg Penkovsky. He then went to Dallas to shore up his dodgy changes of re-election, where he got smoked.

The end.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 07:38 PM (OP3/s)

78 Weasel, I am disappointed. I thought you'd be shooting down trees, not going up against steel.

Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 07:39 PM (ItIzi)

79 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 07:38 PM (OP3/s)

Most people pay top dollar for that kinda poetry. Wikipedia ain't got shit on DJG.

Tears running down my cheeks.

Posted by: weirdflunky at June 24, 2018 07:41 PM (0yb3H)

80 Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:21 PM (MVjcR)

So the next VA MoMee is a BYOG at Weasel Acres, then? LOL

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2018 07:42 PM (BAML8)

81 79 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 07:38 PM (OP3/s)

Most people pay top dollar for that kinda poetry. Wikipedia ain't got shit on DJG.

Tears running down my cheeks.
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 24, 2018 07:41 PM (0yb3H)

Thanks. I didn't how that one would go down, but that's what I think.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 07:42 PM (OP3/s)

82 What's that big one on the back wall? Left hand side, just above the pistols.

Posted by: josephistan at June 24, 2018 07:42 PM (ANIFC)

83
I was wondering why you had earpro but weren't wearing it.

What can do you have? Does it really not make a difference?
Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:30 PM (fZuhk)
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WHAT DID YOU SAY?

Kidding. That was without the can. My buddy has one and a threaded barrel but it's really not that loud without it.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:43 PM (RxVuE)

84 Counter-argument : the Founders never presumed to legislate for anyone other than Americans. I mean, does our Second Amendment mean that Limey gun laws are null and void?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:38 PM (fA1SL)

The second says The People, the fifth says (a) person. The first refers to Congress.

People in the US are subject to penalty for violating the laws of the US, and granted protections outlined in the same laws. They aren't bound by obligations set out for citizens, and aren't granted protections granted to citizens. I'm not a lawyer, but the distinctions seem clear enough to me.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:43 PM (fZuhk)

85 Weasel

There is another well known poster here that you and he could pass for brothers.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 24, 2018 07:44 PM (EyPfd)

86 78 Weasel, I am disappointed. I thought you'd be shooting down trees, not going up against steel.
Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 07:39 PM (ItIzi)
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There was a tree to the right we put a few holes through!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:44 PM (RxVuE)

87 What's that big one on the back wall? Left hand side, just above the pistols.
Posted by: josephistan at June 24, 2018 07:42 PM (ANIFC)

Bob the Bilderberg ID'd it as a UTAS UTS-15 in post #28, I think he's right.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:45 PM (fZuhk)

88 I was asked to leave my local toy store yesterday.
It seems drooling on the floor is frowned upon.
Coach gun in 20 GA. Useless I know, but I like the look.
LCP 2 for really cheap.
The heart breaker though was a S&W revolver in .460. 10" barrel and a really good scope. At $12,000 I was afraid to touch it.
I can afford none of them.

Posted by: Winston at June 24, 2018 07:45 PM (wgCUV)

89 84. I'm not disagreeing, necessarily, but there's no denying the matter of foreign nationals is tricky.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:45 PM (fA1SL)

90 My birthday is this week.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 07:45 PM (6Ll1u)

91

There is another well known poster here that you and he could pass for brothers.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 24, 2018 07:44 PM (EyPfd)
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Hope it's not an 'ette!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:45 PM (RxVuE)

92 >>> I would not hold out John Kennedy as an example of anything apart from Celtic affirmative action.

I think the Senator Kennedy mentioned above is the sitting senator from Louisiana, not the guy from Massachusetts.

I will say this in his favor, however: when he fucked up and put a bunch of people in the ocean, he tried to save them, unlike his little brother.

Posted by: fluffy at June 24, 2018 07:45 PM (cHbmY)

93 There is another well known poster here that you and he could pass for brothers.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 24, 2018 07:44 PM (EyPfd)

I bet there's more than one.

Posted by: weirdflunky at June 24, 2018 07:46 PM (0yb3H)

94 Speaking of the .45 APC here is an Army training film circa 1944 for the 1911. Learned a thing or two.

https://tinyurl.com/yd7z7zf5

Posted by: Javems at June 24, 2018 07:46 PM (4IlOG)

95
So the next VA MoMee is a BYOG at Weasel Acres, then? LOL
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2018 07:42 PM (BAML

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Been thinking along those lines.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:46 PM (RxVuE)

96 77 I would not hold out John Kennedy as an example of anything apart from Celtic affirmative action.

He was a useless loser, a naval officer obviously derelict in his duty, and a hopeless philanderer, who became President only because his psychopathic father bought the Presidency for him, along with gross electoral fraud, he impressed Khruschev as a callow youth (which he was), which induced Khruschev to put missiles into Cuba (Cuber?) and almost started WWWIII but for Oleg Penkovsky. He then went to Dallas to shore up his dodgy changes of re-election, where he got smoked.

The end.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 07:38 PM (OP3/s)

Different John Kennedy today

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 24, 2018 07:47 PM (3Pma+)

97
90 My birthday is this week.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 07:45 PM (6Ll1u)
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Happy Birthday week!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:47 PM (RxVuE)

98 My birthday is this week.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 07:45 PM (6Ll1u)

Happy Early Birthday, in case i miss the actual day. Any big plans?

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:47 PM (e5f4b)

99 I finally got around to trying out my 10 inch barrel chambered in 7mm TCU for my Contender. For those unfamiliar, this is wildcat cartridge that is the .223 Remington necked-up to 7mm.

Accuracy wasn't as good as I would have liked (about 2 inches at 25 yards), but I had loaded it with a relatively low powder charge (30.7 grains of BL-C(2) with a 120 grain Hornady bullet) and still had unburned powder residue in the barrel. Time to step up the charge and see how that does.

I'm used to high recoil pistols and shoot .45 ACP frequently and .44 Magnum occasionally, but this 7mm TCU has even more recoil. The muzzle blast is very loud too. I fired six shots and my wrist ached a bit that evening!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 24, 2018 07:47 PM (5Yee7)

100 "Been thinking along those lines."

Sign us up!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 24, 2018 07:47 PM (EyPfd)

101 So who is is that looks like Weasel? I know it is not an 'ette'.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:48 PM (e5f4b)

102 Feels so good to be 29

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 07:48 PM (6Ll1u)

103 100 "Been thinking along those lines."

Sign us up!!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 24, 2018 07:47 PM (EyPfd)
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I will have to get the range cleared first. Stay tuned.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:49 PM (RxVuE)

104 I'm not disagreeing, necessarily, but there's no denying the matter of foreign nationals is tricky.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:45 PM (fA1SL)

Yes, and like I said, I'm not a lawyer. But due process is in the fifth, the fifth says "no person", so in my interpretation, it means all persons are afforded due process. FWIW the courts have generally agreed, even the more strict-constructionist types, but if you want stare decisis citations imma have to refer you back to me vs. I'm not a lawyer.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:49 PM (fZuhk)

105 100 "Been thinking along those lines."

Sign us up!!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 24, 2018 07:47 PM (EyPfd)

Absolutely!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 24, 2018 07:50 PM (gUCYC)

106 Been thinking along those lines.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:46 PM

Send up the Moron Signal and my Winchester and I will answer the call!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2018 07:50 PM (BAML8)

107 So who is is that looks like Weasel? I know it is not an 'ette'.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:48 PM (e5f4b)

I thought you were taking a shower of spiders or something?

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:50 PM (fZuhk)

108 96
Different John Kennedy today
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 24, 2018 07:47 PM (3Pma+)

I haven't clicked the link, but I figured that when he mentioned an $800 billion bank bailout. Could they even count that high back in the 1950s?

Posted by: rickl at June 24, 2018 07:50 PM (sdi6R)

109 Darn. I can't gawk at Weasel's pic since I'm on retro phone.

Posted by: kallisto at June 24, 2018 07:51 PM (w/exv)

110 Don't even need a printer or CNC machine. P.A.Luty Wrote a book about Expedient Homemade Firearms.

You might be able to find it online even at Amazon.

It goes in and out of print.

Luty was a pioneer of the homemade gun movement before it was a movement. From England he was jailed for not having a firearm but for having ammunition he was not licensed to have.

(sounds like Cali don't it?)

He shows how to build an SMG and some single shot firearms.

Very crude. I would test extensively before putting one near my head but the Devil drives when the need arrives.

Lots of good ideas get you thinking how to make a firearm how to make it safer. It's all up to you and the skill you bring to the work.

Gun Control is impossible over all. Yes some may wind up in jail but then things go badly when they start that in any numbers. And the state/FedGov knows that.

Connecticut firearms owners have yet to fully comply with the states law about registration. New Yorkers haven't either. Be safe, be careful and don't talk to just anybody about what you're doing or what you own. Not even who you think are friends. Unless you have some hold on them I wouldn't trust anyone I wouldn't trust my life to.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 24, 2018 07:51 PM (psHEv)

111 I think the Senator Kennedy mentioned above is the sitting senator from Louisiana, not the guy from Massachusetts.

I will say this in his favor, however: when he fucked up and put a bunch of people in the ocean, he tried to save them, unlike his little brother.
Posted by: fluffy at June 24, 2018 07:45 PM (cHbmY)

Sorry, my bad. I didn't follow the link (obviously), and thought the reference was to JFK. (Although I did think that the sentiment was a bit out of character for JFK.)

And you're right, having screwed the pooch, he (at least according to reports) did try to save his people by way of making amends.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 07:51 PM (OP3/s)

112 What's that big one on the back wall? Left hand side, just above the pistols.
Posted by: josephistan at June 24, 2018 07:42 PM (ANIFC)

Keltec KSG 12 gauge shotty. Of the tasty variety. Double barrel side by side pump. For really big rats.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at June 24, 2018 07:52 PM (l7Kbv)

113 Weasel could put the Horde to work chopping firewood. I'm sure there are a lot of things that need doing. I don't remember where it is though, so don't know which season is best. Maybe the don't need firewood.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:52 PM (e5f4b)

114 104. Easiest thing to do, of course, is to just throw them out of the jurisdiction. Not detention - that invokes the whole due process problem - but physical removal.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:52 PM (fA1SL)

115 At some point I'd like to hold a precision rifle clinic over a weekend for anyone interested. I'm building a 400 yd range to start but will probably push that back to 800 yards or so at some point.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:53 PM (RxVuE)

116 Does GunBroker have those bi-pods in red head?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 24, 2018 07:53 PM (EoRCO)

117 I haven't clicked the link, but I figured that when he mentioned an $800 billion bank bailout. Could they even count that high back in the 1950s?
Posted by: rickl at June 24, 2018 07:50 PM (sdi6R)

Another good point. Once I read the "John Kennedy" part I skimmed over the rest very quickly.

JFK worship drives me wild. Objectively, a disaster. He was the Celtic forerunner to Obama, IMO.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 07:53 PM (OP3/s)

118 At some point I'd like to hold a precision rifle clinic over a weekend
for anyone interested. I'm building a 400 yd range to start but will
probably push that back to 800 yards or so at some point.
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Oh yeah! Great idea!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2018 07:54 PM (9rIkM)

119 117. Lesson to be drawn from tye Kennedy Clan?

No Irish.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:54 PM (fA1SL)

120 I'm going to be 60

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 07:55 PM (6Ll1u)

121 113 Weasel could put the Horde to work chopping firewood. I'm sure there are a lot of things that need doing. I don't remember where it is though, so don't know which season is best. Maybe the don't need firewood.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:52 PM (e5f4b)
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No work. WA is a sanctuary for quiet contemplative relaxation and meditation.

And machine guns.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:55 PM (RxVuE)

122 At some point I'd like to hold a precision rifle clinic over a weekend for anyone interested. I'm building a 400 yd range to start but will probably push that back to 800 yards or so at some point.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:53 PM

He'll, I'd be game. I haven't competed seriously in a looong time, though.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2018 07:56 PM (BAML8)

123 >>> Be safe, be careful and don't talk to just anybody about what you're doing or what you own.

Canoes and tippy rowboats are OK to mention publicly.

Posted by: fluffy at June 24, 2018 07:56 PM (cHbmY)

124 Does GunBroker have those bi-pods in red head?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy
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Does she come with a quick release from a picatinny rail button?

Asking for myself.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2018 07:57 PM (9rIkM)

125 113 platypus

Your comment got me to thinking about Lucifer's Hammer and Senator Jelison's compound.

Posted by: ibguy at June 24, 2018 07:57 PM (vUcdz)

126 120 I'm going to be 60
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 07:55 PM (6Ll1u)

You mean you're turning 29 for the 31st time.

Posted by: rickl at June 24, 2018 07:57 PM (sdi6R)

127 So who is is that looks like Weasel? I know it is not an 'ette'.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:48 PM (e5f4b)

I thought you were taking a shower of spiders or something?
Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:50 PM (fZuhk)

Well, I was gonna...that was the plan...but Then things got interesting. Also, I keep looking for Old Blue. I may not be around much this week so I'm hoping he'll jump on a thread today.

*shower of spiders* I think it was in a movie once. Makes your skin crawl. Couldn't help myself.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:57 PM (e5f4b)

128 119. Oh I thought it was 'don't lobotomize your daughter'

Posted by: kallisto at June 24, 2018 07:58 PM (w/exv)

129 121. Angel and I are gonna end up with two redoubts: Rancho Gringo Malo, in Texas, and Jewbilly Orchards, in Best Virginia. Or, as She calls them, the Winter Palace and Summer Palace, respectively.
Sigh....someday, my PPSh will come.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:58 PM (fA1SL)

130 Easiest thing to do, of course, is to just throw them out of the jurisdiction. Not detention - that invokes the whole due process problem - but physical removal.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:52 PM (fA1SL)

Well if we're talking about illegal aliens (that is what we're talking about, right?), yeah, they're already subject to detention and deportation. There are rules for this kind of thing, they don't need more protections and they don't need to be denied rights granted to all persons in the constitution just fucking enforce the laws that are already in place. I swear, how many problems are due to coming up with new laws and procedures to address already-solved problems? Fucksakes.

I should probably mention that I'm not deriding or hating on any poster here because I am apparently bad at words and sometimes end up conveying an unintended attitude.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 07:58 PM (fZuhk)

131 111 I think the Senator Kennedy mentioned above is the sitting senator from Louisiana, not the guy from Massachusetts.

I will say this in his favor, however: when he fucked up and put a bunch of people in the ocean, he tried to save them, unlike his little brother.
Posted by: fluffy at June 24, 2018 07:45 PM (cHbmY)

Sorry, my bad. I didn't follow the link (obviously), and thought the reference was to JFK. (Although I did think that the sentiment was a bit out of character for JFK.)

And you're right, having screwed the pooch, he (at least according to reports) did try to save his people by way of making amends.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 07:51 PM (OP3/s)

Unless we talk about Oswald's rifle or Ruby's pistol little chance I will talk about that JFK

I forgot to put the State and party label behind his name.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 24, 2018 07:58 PM (3Pma+)

132 BYOG Mo Mee in VA? I'm up for that. Not far. Drive is all through states (incl VA) that recognize my CCW.

That would be sweet. I haven't gone to the ones in NJ or NY cause I don't like the states but VA, I'm in.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 24, 2018 07:59 PM (psHEv)

133 130. No, I think your meaning is quite clear. No animosity detected.
We need to find the happy medium between 'shoot them in the face,' and 'refugees welcome,' and we're managing as best a decent and moral people can.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:00 PM (fA1SL)

134 70 and since it's blued and not collectable, I will fix it's worn appearance like I did on the M57.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 07:35 PM (yQpMk)

Rustoleum ?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 08:00 PM (bjCNA)

135 Wow. Hey Honey, can I have one of these rooms?

++++

Now that looks like a safe space.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 24, 2018 08:01 PM (pvjTE)

136 Maybe the don't need firewood.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:52 PM (e5f4b)

You could always carry water. Chop wood, carry water. It has a ring to it.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 08:01 PM (fZuhk)

137 113 platypus

Your comment got me to thinking about Lucifer's Hammer and Senator Jelison's compound.
Posted by: ibguy at June 24, 2018 07:57 PM (

No idea what any of that means.

Once again, my ignorance shines like a Bright Beacon of crayons. My reference about wood chopping..."Here Come the Brides."

Yes, thank you. Hold the insults people or Koko will haunt you.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:01 PM (e5f4b)

138 122 At some point I'd like to hold a precision rifle clinic over a weekend for anyone interested. I'm building a 400 yd range to start but will probably push that back to 800 yards or so at some point.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 07:53 PM

He'll, I'd be game. I haven't competed seriously in a looong time, though.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2018 07:56 PM (BAML

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That's OK. The only pre-qualification is not being an asshole.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:01 PM (RxVuE)

139 Or, as She calls them, the Winter Palace and Summer Palace, respectively.

How long does it take to travel between them by armored train?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 08:01 PM (yQpMk)

140 139. We shall find out, inshallah.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:02 PM (fA1SL)

141 99 ... RBC, I have found recoil on Contenders often feels worse than on other handguns and I can tolerate a lot of recoil. But they are capable of great accuracy so I persist with lower power cartridges. 38 specials in 357 mag. and maximum barrels, 44 specials in 44 mag version, mild cast bullet loads in 30-30. If I need long range accuarcy I just put up with the recoil and once home take medicinal bourbon to ease the soreness.

Posted by: JTB at June 24, 2018 08:02 PM (V+03K)

142 29 121. Angel and I are gonna end up with two redoubts: Rancho Gringo Malo, in Texas, and Jewbilly Orchards, in Best Virginia. Or, as She calls them, the Winter Palace and Summer Palace, respectively.
Sigh....someday, my PPSh will come.....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:58 PM (fA1SL)

Dulcinea and I are looking just South of Reno... in Nevada, edge of the Mountains...

4 or 5 acres... and yes, it will be a walled compound...

Posted by: Don Q at June 24, 2018 08:02 PM (NgKpN)

143 Only thing missing from that room is an RPG.
Posted by: Ben Had.

Rooms have four walls...

Posted by: mikeski at June 24, 2018 08:02 PM (JGBbg)

144 Darn. I can't gawk at Weasel's pic since I'm on retro phone.

Imagine Guy Fieri with a do-rag and shades and you're pretty close.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 24, 2018 08:02 PM (7oUUT)

145 Rustoleum ?

Hmm, no drips, no sags, no runs..

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 08:03 PM (yQpMk)

146 That's OK. The only pre-qualification is not being an asshole.
Posted by: Weasel

Weasel, we're talking Morons here, right?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2018 08:03 PM (9rIkM)

147 I'm going to be 60
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 07:55 PM (6Ll1u)

Honey, 60 is the new 40.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:03 PM (e5f4b)

148 4 or 5 acres... and yes, it will be a walled compound...

6 foot thick adobe?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 08:04 PM (yQpMk)

149 Any comments on the Ruger 9mm carbine? It shares a common magazine with their Security 9mm and will take Glock mags with an adapter (included.)

Thinking about buying both.
Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at June 24, 2018 07:36 PM (iiixZ)

It is popular and has gotten good reviews. Ruger essentially took their original PC carbine and did a redesign. The new version will take Glock magazines and has a Picatinny rail on the receiver.

I came -> this <- close to buying one for Mrs Cop but ultimately did not mainly because I didn't have a Glock 9mm and didn't feel like adding yet another magazine type to my collection.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 24, 2018 08:04 PM (5Yee7)

150 FYI Fort Knox is still offering a certificate for a free class at Front Sight with purchase of a pistol box: https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9h8bghl
... but I'm a doofus and can't decide where to put it. I really ought to bolt the thing to the floor, right?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 24, 2018 08:04 PM (0ReGO)

151 If they are returned as is, they are not being deprived of life liberty or property.

I don't see how due process enters in.

I suppose they could say that they are at risk being returned to a Country where they might be killed.

But they came from Mexico. Return them to Mexico. Let Mexico sort them out.

That's why the wall is soooo important.

We should pull out our troops and man the borders as that's the real security threat.

especially when the presumptive leader of a country says he's going to tell his people to invade. That's a declaration of war imo.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 24, 2018 08:04 PM (psHEv)

152
Weasel, we're talking Morons here, right?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2018 08:03 PM (9rIkM)
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Only Morons.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:04 PM (RxVuE)

153 When operating machinery I always use ear protection. I always check the cuff in the muff for critters before putting them on, always.

Today I didn't put them on and when I put them on something started jumping around in my ear. I yanked them off and there he was. Mr. Treefrog.
A flipping tree frog in my ear. Well, I promptly held the muff up to a tree and he hit the road.

Remember, always check the cuff in the muff for critters.

Posted by: Braenyard the irredeemable at June 24, 2018 08:04 PM (Srnuc)

154 Time

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2018 08:05 PM (pHfeF)

155 That's OK. The only pre-qualification is not being an asshole.

Can I apply for an ADA waiver?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 24, 2018 08:06 PM (7oUUT)

156 154 Time
Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2018 08:05 PM (pHfeF)
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A little after 8pm eastern.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:06 PM (RxVuE)

157 Weasel: with all that "skilled" help. you could pull a Tom Sawyer and get a lot of work done around the homestead.

I'd gladly chip in.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 24, 2018 08:06 PM (psHEv)

158 Maybe they don't need firewood.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:52 PM (e5f4b)

You could always carry water. Chop wood, carry water. It has a ring to it.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 08:01 PM (

What's this "you" thing. I never said I'd be there. I was suggesting this for all the other people. Like you. You manly men. I am but a little woman.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:06 PM (e5f4b)

159 So have a new girlfriend that is 51, go me.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 08:07 PM (6Ll1u)

160 What's this "you" thing. I never said I'd be there. I was suggesting this for all the other people. Like you. You manly men. I am but a little woman.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:06 PM (e5f4b)

Have you achieved enlightenment yet? No?

Then chop wood, carry water. Until you achieve enlightenment.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 08:08 PM (fZuhk)

161 144. Fieri is the one with blond tips? My cuz works in one of his restos as a chef.***A legit do rag or a bandana like HH?

Posted by: kallisto at June 24, 2018 08:08 PM (w/exv)

162 148 4 or 5 acres... and yes, it will be a walled compound...

6 foot thick adobe?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 08:04 PM (yQpMk

Actually? going to learn to work with stone... long term project...

Posted by: Don Q at June 24, 2018 08:08 PM (NgKpN)

163 *shower of spiders* I think it was in a movie once.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 07:57 PM

Perhaps starring AtC? She's quite the arachnophile.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 24, 2018 08:08 PM (DMUuz)

164 Was mentioning earlier - am in Best Virginia for an extended stay "

Where?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:08 PM (7LY+6)

165 That's OK. The only pre-qualification is not being an asshole.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:01 PM

Well, I am from MA, but as Howie Carr says, you can trust me....I'm not like the others.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2018 08:08 PM (BAML8)

166 I was hoping for some tree removal, 9mm isn't the right tool though

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2018 08:09 PM (pHfeF)

167 Any comments on the Ruger 9mm carbine?

I liked the idea of this M1 Carbine in 9mm, http://bit.ly/2Inl91p, but it's not getting very good reviews. Mostly because it's a chunky blowback system under the covers. On the other hand, so is the Hi-Point, and the wood M1 looks better.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 08:09 PM (yQpMk)

168 I want that Sinn Feinn gun room in Boondock Saints, that's a nice gun room.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 24, 2018 08:09 PM (39g3+)

169 155 That's OK. The only pre-qualification is not being an asshole.

Can I apply for an ADA waiver?
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 24, 2018 08:06 PM (7oUUT)

But... but...

I'm a Government Trained professional Asshole!

Or at least that's what the guys who worked for me in the Navy thought! /smile

Posted by: Don Q at June 24, 2018 08:10 PM (NgKpN)

170 How to clear your house: Open the door and as the dogs run in yell "get 'em !". Works every time and they love it.

Posted by: Braenyard the irredeemable at June 24, 2018 08:10 PM (Srnuc)

171 162. Oi moi! Stone, he says.

Jewbilly Orchards - an ancestral estate where I spent my early childhood - has a fieldstone farmhouse with all the mod cons circa 1900. I really should go and check it out.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:10 PM (fA1SL)

172 157 Weasel: with all that "skilled" help. you could pull a Tom Sawyer and get a lot of work done around the homestead.

I'd gladly chip in.
Posted by: jakee308 at June 24, 2018 08:06 PM (psHEv)
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Appreciate the offer but the idea would be to offer it for free and to have everyone just have fun and pick up a thing or two.. I have some, well, skills with respect to long range shooting and coaching and enjoy passing the knowledge along. I have to be a little careful as far as syllabus is concerned so it would have to be an introductory class. And the group size would need to be small.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:10 PM (RxVuE)

173 ibguy @ 125- Lucifer's Hammer is one I have read about 4 times. Never disappoints either. Would have made a great movie, right up there with The Outlaw Josey Wales. That is, if horryweird didn't turn it into another Postman.

Posted by: Eromero at June 24, 2018 08:10 PM (zLDYs)

174 153 Remember, always check the cuff in the muff for critters.

Posted by: Braenyard the irredeemable at June 24, 2018 08:04 PM (Srnuc)

Good advice, in many situations.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 08:10 PM (bjCNA)

175
Weasel: with all that "skilled" help. you could pull a Tom Sawyer and get a lot of work done around the homestead.

What you say about his company
Is what you say about society
Catch the witness, catch the wit
Catch the spirit, catch the spit

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 24, 2018 08:10 PM (IqV8l)

176 After rain well for the most part was over went outside, less 2 wheelbarrows and a little more branches now. About 35 minutes.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2018 08:11 PM (pHfeF)

177 Perhaps starring AtC? She's quite the arachnophile.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 24, 2018 08:08 PM

Been nice knowing you.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2018 08:11 PM (BAML8)

178 > I see very few revolvers, but the ones I can see are full-sized .357.

"Needs to start with .4 or end with 'Magnum'. Preferably both."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at June 24, 2018 08:11 PM (GXOTw)

179 I suppose they could say that they are at risk being returned to a Country where they might be killed.

Hell, that's true here. Wander through the South Side of Chicago late on a hot summer night ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 08:11 PM (OP3/s)

180 164. I'm down by Beckley, closest place to the Gorge that's still a sorta kinda city. Family's from McDowell County, more or less.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:11 PM (fA1SL)

181 Is that a Claymore in the left side rack?

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2018 08:12 PM (pHfeF)

182 What's this "you" thing. I never said I'd be there. I was suggesting this for all the other people. Like you. You manly men. I am but a little woman.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:06 PM (e5f4b)

Have you achieved enlightenment yet? No?

Then chop wood, carry water. Until you achieve enlightenment.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 08:08 PM (fZuhk)

Enlightenment has been achieved, many moons ago. No need to chop wood or carry water. Someone would probably lose an appendage anyway, and I'd drink the water before returning.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:12 PM (e5f4b)

183 Angel and I are gonna end up with two redoubts: Rancho Gringo Malo, in Texas, and Jewbilly Orchards, in Best Virginia."

Sounds like the mouse plan. We've a nice place in Texas, but I held on to 100 plus acres in West, by God, Virginia...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:12 PM (7LY+6)

184 178 > I see very few revolvers, but the ones I can see are full-sized .357.

"Needs to start with .4 or end with 'Magnum'. Preferably both."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at June 24, 2018 08:11 PM (GXOTw)

Open carry?

.45 Long Colt... Uberti El Patron, 5.5 inch barrel.

Posted by: Don Q at June 24, 2018 08:13 PM (NgKpN)

185 Handle up, on the wall is copper pipes.
But I have a tablet with limited enlargement

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2018 08:13 PM (pHfeF)

186 So have a new girlfriend that is 51, go me.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 08:07 PM (6Ll1u)

Hooray for you!

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 08:13 PM (fZuhk)

187 170 How to clear your house: Open the door and as the dogs run in yell "get 'em !". Works every time and they love it.

Posted by: Braenyard the irredeemable at June 24, 2018 08:10 PM (Srnuc)

This. Dogs are a great house clearing tool. Even little yappy friendly dogs. Big vicious mean ones are even better.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 08:13 PM (bjCNA)

188 Family's from McDowell County, more or less"

Ah. The mouse lands are north of Charleston.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:13 PM (7LY+6)

189 Revolver recommendation request: .357 Mag, 7 or 8 rounds, double action, decent trigger action out-of-the box. Price is not super-critical, but I can't afford what S&W charges for their Performance Center guns.

Thanks!

Posted by: Gref at June 24, 2018 08:14 PM (AMIL/)

190 What's funny on the asylum front is that these immigrants are claiming asylum from our allies.

Their petitions will be summarily dismissed as soon as they get in front of a judge. Maybe we should ... er .. adjudicated them in batches like the French Revolution.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 08:14 PM (yQpMk)

191 181 Is that a Claymore in the left side rack?
Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2018 08:12 PM (pHfeF)

More Bastard length... but there is a mace on the wall...

Posted by: Don Q at June 24, 2018 08:14 PM (NgKpN)

192 Enlightenment has been achieved, many moons ago.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:12 PM (e5f4b)

Ah! So you have achieved enlightenment. Before enlightenment, it was: chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, it is: chop wood, carry water.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 08:15 PM (fZuhk)

193 Eris, we don't call it the TX MoMe and strategic planning session for nothing.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2018 07:38 PM (ZPQYY)

Is there some kind of strategic planning session coming up?

Posted by: Legion of Gloomer at June 24, 2018 08:15 PM (VFsep)

194 188. Nice. Jewbilly Orchards is not too far from Welch, of all damned places. Ya know you're nowhere when you use Welch as a reference point.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:15 PM (fA1SL)

195
This. Dogs are a great house clearing tool. Even little yappy friendly dogs. Big vicious mean ones are even better.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 08:13 PM (bjCNA)
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How about little yappy vicious dogs that don't realize they only weigh 10 pounds?

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:15 PM (RxVuE)

196 I'm down by Beckley, closest place to the Gorge that's still a sorta kinda city.

You're only a couple of miles from Girl928's Mountain Redoubt, where her car was burgled by meth heads last weekend.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 08:15 PM (yQpMk)

197 Open carry? "

My WV open carry is usually a Heritage .22 with snake shot...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:16 PM (7LY+6)

198 Jewbilly Orchards sounds lovely. My family were Italian mountainfolk. So - Wopbillies?

Posted by: kallisto at June 24, 2018 08:16 PM (w/exv)

199 Here's another pic from this weekend: .50 vs brittle steel.

https://tinyurl.com/yc6ccw72

OK, so he was using A-Max.

Posted by: Bert G at June 24, 2018 08:16 PM (yzxic)

200 190 What's funny on the asylum front is that these immigrants are claiming asylum from our allies.

Their petitions will be summarily dismissed as soon as they get in front of a judge. Maybe we should ... er .. adjudicated them in batches like the French Revolution.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 08:14 PM (yQpMk)

Problem is that Obama put in the guidelines that it is no longer POLITICAL asylum.

It can be from gang violence, or even domestic abuse... and we are then supposed to take in and support the losers... I mean victims....

/spit

Posted by: Don Q at June 24, 2018 08:16 PM (NgKpN)

201 Jewbilly Orchards sounds lovely. My family were Italian mountainfolk. So - Wopbillies?

Posted by: kallisto

Give me pepperoni rolls or give me death!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2018 08:17 PM (9rIkM)

202 196. Ayup. I've noticed this area has a real problem with that. Shocking, really. The entire underworld here seems to consist of a sorta system of exchange - opiates for meth, and vice versa.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:17 PM (fA1SL)

203 PDT today "We cannot allow all of these people to invade our Country. When somebody comes in, we must immediately, with no Judges or Court Cases, bring them back from where they came."

This guy gets it.

Posted by: f'd at June 24, 2018 08:17 PM (UdKB7)

204 Ya know you're nowhere when you use Welch as a reference point."

We're past Clendenin, so "nowhere" is familiar...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:17 PM (7LY+6)

205 Ah. By invitation only?

Maybe a lottery?

Posted by: jakee308 at June 24, 2018 08:18 PM (psHEv)

206 192 Enlightenment has been achieved, many moons ago.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:12 PM (e5f4b)

Ah! So you have achieved enlightenment. Before enlightenment, it was: chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, it is: chop wood, carry water.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 08:15 PM (fZuhk)

I thought after enlightenment it was Chop Lunch meat, carry samich?

Posted by: Don Q at June 24, 2018 08:18 PM (NgKpN)

207 Legion of Gloomer, just our annual get together.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2018 08:18 PM (ZPQYY)

208 Revolver recommendation request: .357 Mag, 7 or 8 rounds, double action, decent trigger action out-of-the box.

The > 6 requirement is going to narrow your choices a lot. Otherwise, I'd say SW 686 + a trip to a competent 'smith.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 24, 2018 08:18 PM (7oUUT)

209 198. Dago Holler, ftw!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:19 PM (fA1SL)

210 Weasel: Have you ever used the RCBS Precision Mic when sizing rifle brass?

https://tinyurl.com/yd2zynga

I wonder if you have an opinion on it's usefulness?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 08:19 PM (bjCNA)

211 Finally got my Winchester 94 Trapper back from the custom stock maker. It is a mid 70s first run Trapper in mint condition I purchased off Gunbroker in January. FedEx broke the buttstock in transit and ponyed up dough to replace both the buttstock and forend with matching walnut. Going out to tomorrow to try it out with some Hornady Leverevolution ammo. Probably be my last lever gun...who am I kidding I never stop.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 24, 2018 08:19 PM (bML9A)

212 Give me pepperoni rolls or give me death! "

OMG yes!

Sam's clubs in the north half of the state usually carry the big ones...

Yum.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:19 PM (7LY+6)

213 You are a good looking dud

What a compliment !

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2018 08:19 PM (lBiGz)

214 That's OK. The only pre-qualification is not being an asshole.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:01 PM

Well I'm glad the CenTexMoMee standards aren't that high.

Posted by: Legion of Gloomer at June 24, 2018 08:20 PM (VFsep)

215 Enlightenment has been achieved, many moons ago.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:12 PM (e5f4b)

Ah! So you have achieved enlightenment. Before enlightenment, it was: chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, it is: chop wood, carry water.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 08:15 PM (fZuhk)

Is this in one of those video games you play, because it is nothing like that. I don't believe I ever did those things, except maybe in girls scouts. Which was a century ago.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:20 PM (e5f4b)

216 211,

Sweet!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:21 PM (7LY+6)

217 195
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How about little yappy vicious dogs that don't realize they only weigh 10 pounds?

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:15 PM (RxVuE)

They're the best ! ! ! Some of those little mutts have a lot of fight in them.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 08:21 PM (bjCNA)

218 Ah! So you have achieved enlightenment. Before enlightenment, it was: chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, it is: chop wood, carry water.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 08:15 PM (fZuhk)

Oh wait...are you doing the Buddhist thing here? See, I was not operating at that deep a level.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:21 PM (e5f4b)

219 204. On the mighty Elk? Sigh.....

My time here has reminded me that not all the world is flat and dry and desolate. The trees and such. Saw a blackberry bush in the wild, and was instantly transported to my youth. I need to get Angel up here for a few weeks, so she can see what I'm talking about.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:22 PM (fA1SL)

220 205 Ah. By invitation only?

Maybe a lottery?
Posted by: jakee308 at June 24, 2018 08:18 PM (psHEv)
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I'd like to offer a class maybe 2 or 3 times a year. If it doesn't turn out to be a pain. There would be a classroom portion then a practical range portion and would involve a lot of one on one instruction. It just doesn't lend itself really to large groups. Maybe two teams alternating as shooter and spotter.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:22 PM (RxVuE)

221 How to clear your house: Open the door and as the dogs run in yell "get 'em !". Works every time and they love it.

Posted by: Braenyard the irredeemable at June 24, 2018 08:10 PM

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Our dogs would "pre clear" the house if we came home to an intruder. The only thing we would have to do is get out a mop and bucket after we called 911.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 24, 2018 08:22 PM (+Dllb)

222 Eo by Trump listing the countries one can be from to get asylum.

Also change the perks given to these refugees.

Next again: Eo declaring all persons entering US from Mexico by land or sea are to be escorted back on Mexican territory by armed Soldiers and watched and tracked to make sure they leave.

Put NG or Regs Army on border at hot spots.

Since the people entering the US are not being deprived of life, liberty or property by being returned immediately, no due process shall accrue.

Only those arriving at POE's can claim refugee status.

Signed PDT

Posted by: jakee308 at June 24, 2018 08:22 PM (psHEv)

223 207 Legion of Gloomer, just our annual get together.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2018 08:18 PM (ZPQYY)

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yeah...

Just a little get-together...

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 08:23 PM (DEtB+)

224 Weasel: Have you ever used the RCBS Precision Mic when sizing rifle brass?

https://tinyurl.com/yd2zynga

I wonder if you have an opinion on it's usefulness?

Apparently, it causes cancer. Like Mitt Romney.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 24, 2018 08:24 PM (7oUUT)

225 On the mighty Elk? Sigh..."

Poca river...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:24 PM (7LY+6)

226 Hello Warriors of the Horde,
Hope you are having a relaxing Sunday afternoon!

Posted by: ALH at June 24, 2018 08:24 PM (XOAlA)

227 209. Sounds about right. How about Goombah Gulch?

Posted by: kallisto at June 24, 2018 08:25 PM (w/exv)

228 225. Nice. So you're sorta kinda a Dot, eh? Can you see the John Amos plant from there?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:25 PM (fA1SL)

229 I thought after enlightenment it was Chop Lunch meat, carry samich?
Posted by: Don Q at June 24, 2018 08:18 PM (NgKpN)

lol

Yea, it just dawned on me he was doing the Buddhist deal. Was not on his same wavelength. I was just goofing around and thinking about painting the fence at Weasel-Land white. Like Tom Sawyer.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:26 PM (e5f4b)

230 99 ... RBC, I have found recoil on Contenders often feels worse than on other handguns and I can tolerate a lot of recoil. But they are capable of great accuracy ... If I need long range accuracy I just put up with the recoil and once home take medicinal bourbon to ease the soreness.

I probably should have done the same. I was just a bit surprised at how sore my wrist was later that night. I had gotten this barrel years ago for a really low price and put a
2x Nikon scope on it. Federal used to make unprimed brass for 7mm TCU and I have 180 sitting around waiting for a load.

I made some test loads and the one I selected for the range just didn't seem to have optimal accuracy and suspect the load was too light since I had unburned powder residue inside the barrel. I was shooting from a bench rest and only got about 2 inch groups at 25 yards.

I have a 30-30 barrel and have been thinking about getting a .32 ACP chamber adapter from Ace Sports.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 24, 2018 08:26 PM (5Yee7)

231 Saw a blackberry bush in the wild, and was instantly transported to my youth"

Indeed. That land is good for the soul...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:26 PM (7LY+6)

232 227. That'll work. Guinea Bottom or Wop Landing, if'n yer by a river.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:26 PM (fA1SL)

233 I picked up a S&W M&P Shield 9mm with laser attachment Friday on my day off to add to my entourage. Re: the gun buyer in Kallyfornia, the hardest part of my latest gun buying venture was driving to and from the store.

I love Texas.

Posted by: Legion of Gloomer at June 24, 2018 08:27 PM (VFsep)

234 @16

That is why a wall is absolutley crucial.

Once these pieces of shit step one toe on US soil, unfortunately the SCOTUS has ruled they get due process.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 24, 2018 08:27 PM (UfMVm)

235 >>> 189 Revolver recommendation request: .357 Mag, 7 or 8 rounds, double action, decent trigger action out-of-the box. Price is not super-critical, but I can't afford what S&W charges for their Performance Center guns.

Thanks!
Posted by: Gref at June 24, 2018 08:14 PM (AMIL/)

Taurus:
https://tinyurl.com/ydeyr2k6

Ruger:
https://tinyurl.com/yda5k8yq

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 24, 2018 08:28 PM (0ReGO)

236 Did you know that bears and buffaloes will try to kill you if you try and take selfies with them?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 08:28 PM (6Ll1u)

237 yeah...

Just a little get-together...

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 08:23 PM (DEtB+)

Well hello there young lady.

Posted by: Legion of Gloomer at June 24, 2018 08:28 PM (VFsep)

238 You are a good looking dud

What a compliment !
Posted by: JT at June 24, 2018 08:19 PM (lBiGz)

Hahahahahaha hahahaha
Oh my gosh, did I really say that?

I am so sorry.

DUDE, I meant Dude, Weasel.

Or we could say he's like a milk dud, all sweet on the inside.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:28 PM (e5f4b)

239 231. Obligatory 'Green, Rolling Hills' vid.

https://youtu.be/FMdRVdpjJ6U

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:29 PM (fA1SL)

240 210 Weasel: Have you ever used the RCBS Precision Mic when sizing rifle brass?

https://tinyurl.com/yd2zynga

I wonder if you have an opinion on it's usefulness?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 08:19 PM (bjCNA)
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For competition I use custom sizing dies made to match my chamber readers. I full length size after each firing checking for the correct shoulder bump. For seating I use a micrometer die and an arbor press.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:29 PM (RxVuE)

241 Nice. So you're sorta kinda a Dot, "

Closer to Walton... then a bit towards Spencer...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:29 PM (7LY+6)

242 left side, forward, if no one else has commented, appears to be a Barrett M99, based on the bipod and the PAK like muzzle brake

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 08:30 PM (y7aoc)

243 Anyone tried a Heizer PKO yet? I'm very tempted.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 24, 2018 08:30 PM (bML9A)

244 The #Communist Left: You don't need guns! Only the police need guns!
Also the #Communist Left: Open Borders With Mexico Now!

Twenty-eight Mexican police held over political murder https://reut.rs/2K8LvK7

Posted by: Trigger Warning at June 24, 2018 08:30 PM (YRXy3)

245 and i just lurve the variations of my nick in the poast.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 08:31 PM (y7aoc)

246 241. God's Country. Mazel tov.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:31 PM (fA1SL)

247 Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:22 PM

Totally game for that. I used to do serious smallbore and air rifle when I was younger, with a little service rifle. I'm dusting off the inherited rifles and thinking about doing a little more high power.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2018 08:32 PM (BAML8)

248 Revolver recommendation request: .357 Mag, 7 or 8 rounds, double action, decent trigger action out-of-the box. Price is not super-critical, but I can't afford what S&W charges for their Performance Center guns.

Thanks!
Posted by: Gref at June 24, 2018 08:14 PM (AMIL/)

Look for a used Ruger. It will only chamber 6 cartridges but they tend to make very nice wheel-guns.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 24, 2018 08:32 PM (5Yee7)

249 Right wall, bottom, closest to the camera: Saiga of some kind?

Right wall, second from the top, closest to the camera: M27?

And what's that between them? Kinda looks like a SUB-2000.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 08:33 PM (fZuhk)

250 God's Country. Mazel tov."

It is. As is the southern side of the state. Oh, and thanks for the video link.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:34 PM (7LY+6)

251 SMH, I know I still owe you a conning tower.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2018 08:34 PM (ZPQYY)

252 Oh my gosh, did I really say that?

Ummmm.... Why yes !

YES YOU DID !

As for the yellow jacket.... you could just pretend
that it was the nice Korean Lady that YOU got kicked off the chess thread and now she has to rob banks for a living.

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2018 08:34 PM (lBiGz)

253 And sorry - I only answered half your question. Yes, that tool is very similar to the ones I use for measuring shoulder bump. The key is to have very fine threads on the micrometer to eliminate slop in the accuracy. I have a couple that were made for me and a couple that I bought commercially. The latter were from Whidden Gunworks I think.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:35 PM (RxVuE)

254 And still have more distant relatives in Morgantown...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:35 PM (7LY+6)

255 180 164. I'm down by Beckley, closest place to the Gorge that's still a sorta kinda city. Family's from McDowell County, more or less.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:11 PM (fA1SL)

I did a bunch of vehicle testing in them there hills of Beckley. Loved the area.

Posted by: clutch at June 24, 2018 08:35 PM (kiSdp)

256 Hello Warriors of the Horde,
Hope you are having a relaxing Sunday afternoon!
Posted by: ALH at June 24, 2018 08:24 PM (XOAlA)

Gosh, where are my manners. Welcome. Pull up a gun or something.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 08:36 PM (fZuhk)

257 Russkie sniper with 59 confirmed kills.

https://bit.ly/2tyyChm

Info about her.

https://bit.ly/2Kf2AxX

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 24, 2018 08:37 PM (+y/Ru)

258 251 SMH, I know I still owe you a conning tower.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2018 08:34 PM (ZPQYY)

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LOL!

Not much need for that nowadays...

But could always use moar duct tape.

Taping the g-babies to the wall when they act up can get expensive after awhile.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 08:37 PM (DEtB+)

259 250. Montani semper liberi.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:37 PM (fA1SL)

260 As for the yellow jacket.... you could just pretend
that it was the nice Korean Lady that YOU got kicked off the chess thread and now she has to rob banks for a living.
Posted by: JT at June 24, 2018 08:34 PM (lBiGz)

Well thanks for correcting me so I could tell Weasel I meant DUDE. *facepalm*

That Korean AI chick is Miss Korea, I think, so she is fine. Won't need to turn to a life of crime. Sounds like you have a little crush on her.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:38 PM (e5f4b)

261 Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:28 PM (e5f4b)
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Just ask bluebell - she'll tell you I really am a big dud!!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:38 PM (MVjcR)

262 240
For competition I use custom sizing dies made to match my chamber readers. I full length size after each firing checking for the correct shoulder bump.

How do you check for the correct shoulder bump? The RCBS Precision Mic allows you to check the headspace dimension of a cartridge, either after firing or after sizing. Do you use something similar?

For seating I use a micrometer die and an arbor press.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:29 PM (RxVuE)

Tell me more about the micrometer die, please. Does it make for more consistent length from round-to-round, or just make it easier to make fine adjustments to length?

Does the arbor press give more consistency?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 08:38 PM (bjCNA)

263 Welcome. Pull up a gun or something.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 08:36 PM (fZuhk)

Have you ever had to draw a gun to defend yourself?

I've never needed to. Knock on wood I never have to.

Posted by: ALH at June 24, 2018 08:38 PM (XOAlA)

264 Well, we do chuckle that if one were to flatten West Virginia out, it'd cover Texas...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:39 PM (7LY+6)

265 263. I've had the misfortune of having to draw and fire in self-defense. It was awful but necessary. My hearing is damaged even unto this day.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:40 PM (fA1SL)

266 264. Heh. True. I've had to rethink distances since getting here. A hundred miles in Texas is nothing. In Best Virginia, that's most of a day.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:41 PM (fA1SL)

267 Damn.... was just looking...

Would love to see a modern interpretation of the La Mat revolver....

9 shots of .44, and a shotgun shell in the original...

could do 9 .357s... and a 12 gauge....

Make it look old school... and would be AWSOME

Posted by: Don Q at June 24, 2018 08:41 PM (NgKpN)

268 In CA yes, in SC no. Lesson to be learned, don't live in Commiefornia.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 24, 2018 07:32 PM (mpXpK)

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I get the no duty to flee, but I'm still going to say that you'd be hiring a lawyer really fast if you see the door to your home kicked in and instead of calling the cops you draw your weapon to go search for the intruder and kill him in the process.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 08:41 PM (vDapD)

269 Once these pieces of shit step one toe on US soil, unfortunately the SCOTUS has ruled they get due process.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 24, 2018 08:27 PM (UfMVm)

Yeah, but isn't mid Rio Grande US soil? And the wall will entirely be on US soil, right?

Posted by: clutch at June 24, 2018 08:41 PM (kiSdp)

270 265 sometimes you have no other choice.

Posted by: ALH at June 24, 2018 08:41 PM (XOAlA)

271 Sounds like someone is working on the plot for the next new kdrama.

Posted by: Trigger Warning at June 24, 2018 08:42 PM (YRXy3)

272 draw and fire in self-defense"

Damn. I did have to pull my blade once. Not a pleasant memory...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:42 PM (7LY+6)

273 The Navy says that they will take 48000 or so refugees on Camp Pendleton

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 08:42 PM (6Ll1u)

274 . Sounds like you have a little crush on her.

Nah.... I just like pulling your leg.

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2018 08:42 PM (lBiGz)

275 Just ask bluebell - she'll tell you I really am a big dud!!
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:38 PM (MVjcR)

DUDE!

I feel so bad! I can't believe I didn't catch it.
If we ever meet, I'll make you a sammich as way of an apology.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:42 PM (e5f4b)

276 263. I've had the misfortune of having to draw and fire in self-defense. It was awful but necessary. My hearing is damaged even unto this day.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:40 PM (fA1SL)

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I have had the same experience, and unfortunately have the 30% hearing loss and tinnitus to prove it.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 24, 2018 08:43 PM (I16G8)

277 For competition I use custom sizing dies made to match my chamber readers. I full length size after each firing checking for the correct shoulder bump. For seating I use a micrometer die and an arbor press.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:29 PM (RxVuE)
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Maybe once I retire I'll go enter the land of madness known as "Accuracy." Until then, I'll stick with MOA factory ammo.

On a more serious note, I want to build a rifle based on this action:
https://tinyurl.com/ycx8qmuh

And I want to build a 250 Savage Ackley Improved, with the MausinfgField action, just because.

https://tinyurl.com/y9ge7nvf

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at June 24, 2018 08:43 PM (WEBkv)

278 I've had the misfortune of having to draw and fire
in self-defense. It was awful but necessary. My hearing is damaged even
unto this day.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR
Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:40 PM (fA1SL)

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I've never had to, thank God. I've had lots of nightmares about it, though. All in slow motion. Fistfight dreams are the same.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 08:43 PM (vDapD)

279 253 And sorry - I only answered half your question. Yes, that tool is very similar to the ones I use for measuring shoulder bump. The key is to have very fine threads on the micrometer to eliminate slop in the accuracy. I have a couple that were made for me and a couple that I bought commercially. The latter were from Whidden Gunworks I think.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:35 PM (RxVuE)

Thanks. The RCBS doesn't use especially fine threads, but doesn't really feel "loose" either. The resolution of a length measurement is maybe half a thousandth, I don't have a good way to measure reputability.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 08:44 PM (bjCNA)

280 Remember when it was us deplorables that government employees has to worry about getting harrased by? Neither do I. Sure there was some BS about "extreme right wing organizations" but we never actively harrased people like what is happening now. Mad Maxine is inciting people to do it, and there need to be some arrests pronto.

Posted by: f'd at June 24, 2018 08:44 PM (UdKB7)

281 If we ever meet, I'll make you a sammich as way of an apology.

Posted by: platypus,

But do I get a sammich for pointing it out ?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2018 08:45 PM (lBiGz)

282 Palp: how did Jews eod up in WV? That's like WASPs in Crown Heights.

Posted by: kallisto at June 24, 2018 08:45 PM (Sq5z0)

283 263. I've had the misfortune of having to draw and fire in self-defense. It was awful but necessary. My hearing is damaged even unto this day.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:40 PM (fA1SL)

I'm so sorry you went through that. I'm glad you did draw though, or maybe more of you would be damaged.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:45 PM (e5f4b)

284 248 ... Another vote for a used Ruger. Their GP100 is often found on the consignment shelf for some reason. The gun is a tank by 357 mag standards and is known for its accuracy and reliabilty.

Posted by: JTB at June 24, 2018 08:45 PM (V+03K)

285 In Best Virginia, that's most of a day."

Funny but true. A half hour from here and I'm nearly downtown Houston. Same time there and I'm still in Roane county.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 08:45 PM (7LY+6)

286 Problem is that Obama put in the guidelines that it is no longer POLITICAL asylum.

It can be from gang violence, or even domestic abuse... and we are then supposed to take in and support the losers... I mean victims....

You'd think a Negro of all people would recognize the irony of accepting people here who are fleeing gang violence.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 08:46 PM (OP3/s)

287 Well goodnight all, no mayhem on the ONT tonight, well maybe at 4am who knows?

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2018 08:46 PM (pHfeF)

288 I don't have a good way to measure reputability.

Crap. Thanks, autocucumber repeatability

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 08:46 PM (bjCNA)

289 Blake, I am retired now, and weasel gave me some "free" advice on accuracy reloading. I now have that monkey on my back.

Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 08:46 PM (SY1FC)

290 81 If we ever meet, I'll make you a sammich as way of an apology.

Posted by: platypus,

But do I get a sammich for pointing it out ?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !
Posted by: JT at June 24, 2018 08:45 PM (lBiGz)

lol
You get a ...dill pickle.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:46 PM (e5f4b)

291 273 The Navy says that they will take 48000 or so refugees on Camp Pendleton
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 08:42 PM (6Ll1u)

Great.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 08:47 PM (OP3/s)

292 Mark me down as pro-Ruger in almost any conversation. I've always had good experiences with their firearms and warranty. I'd probably choose them over many more pricey offerings for something I intended to use a lot.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 08:47 PM (vDapD)

293 282. Easy answer: the mines were recruiting heavily in Poland. Free transport for self and family, guaranteed job and housing in the Golden Land. That was grandfather's family.
Grandmother's family moved down from Philly because merchants - yeah, they were the stereotype.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:47 PM (fA1SL)

294 289 Blake, I am retired now, and weasel gave me some "free" advice on accuracy reloading. I now have that monkey on my back.
Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 08:46 PM (SY1FC)

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Heh. I do plan on going down that road, though that way lies madness!

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at June 24, 2018 08:48 PM (WEBkv)

295 Easiest thing to do, of course, is to just throw them out of the jurisdiction. Not detention - that invokes the whole due process problem - but physical removal.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 07:52 PM (fA1SL)

If I'm not mistaken, illegal aliens have mostly been deported. The problem began when Obama told them to claim asylum. That requires a hearing.

Posted by: Bill R. at June 24, 2018 08:48 PM (IuYIh)

296 I heard a little kid say to her older sister today after I had just walked by them 'guns are bad, right?' Later saw them both with their mom. Yep, looked like a leftie. Right here in ETEX.

Posted by: Eromero at June 24, 2018 08:48 PM (zLDYs)

297 I get the no duty to flee, but I'm still going to say that you'd be hiring a lawyer really fast if you see the door to your home kicked in and instead of calling the cops you draw your weapon to go search for the intruder and kill him in the process.
Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 08:41 PM (vDapD)

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No, Vic is right. In strong Castle Doctrine states, the police would not even charge you in those circumstances. Now, you might get hit with a civil lawsuit by the late Dindu Nuffin's family, but that is a different matter.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 24, 2018 08:49 PM (I16G8)

298
For competition I use custom sizing dies made to match my chamber readers. I full length size after each firing checking for the correct shoulder bump.

How do you check for the correct shoulder bump? The RCBS Precision Mic allows you to check the headspace dimension of a cartridge, either after firing or after sizing. Do you use something similar?

For seating I use a micrometer die and an arbor press.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:29 PM (RxVuE)

Tell me more about the micrometer die, please. Does it make for more consistent length from round-to-round, or just make it easier to make fine adjustments to length?

Does the arbor press give more consistency?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 08:38 PM (bjCNA)
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I use full length bushing dies for sizing. After I carefully set up the press (regular single stage for sizing) I check every 10th case or so to make sure I have a consistent bump of about .0015" or so. Consistency is key. I measure that with the same sort of tool that you linked.

I use a Wilson micrometer seating die because it gives a much greater 'feel' of the seating force required, and I verify/confirm the seating depth every 5 rounds or so. 21st Century Shooting makes an arbor press with a seating force gauge but after you load a zillion rounds you can just tell by feel. The necks of all my match brass are turned to a very consistent wall thickness and sized very carefully, again checking often for absolute consistency.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:49 PM (MVjcR)

299 283. I was in Guadalupe county at the time. Irony is that the most valuable thing in the house was the pistol I shot him with.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:50 PM (fA1SL)

300 If you are in a sudden sustained fire situation, your hearing is gone.
I mean, you can see the lips moving on people speaking to you but you will hear nothing.
It will be a week or so to compensate for this.
Notice I did not say "recover" because hearing lost is hearing lost. It never comes back. It only degrades, from the very day you are born.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at June 24, 2018 08:50 PM (w7KSn)

301 The Navy says that they will take 48000 or so refugees on Camp Pendleton
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 08:42 PM (6Ll1u)

Why is the Navy doing something that directly contradicts what the CiC said wouldn't happen?

Posted by: Legion of Gloomer at June 24, 2018 08:51 PM (VFsep)

302 292 Mark me down as pro-Ruger in almost any conversation. I've always had good experiences with their firearms and warranty. I'd probably choose them over many more pricey offerings for something I intended to use a lot.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 08:47 PM (vDapD)

Me three. The older Security Six would be a good choice if you can find one at a decent price. Doesn't have a S&W-grade trigger, but still a good value.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 08:51 PM (bjCNA)

303 Damn! Down here in RI working on my boat. Huge thunderstorm blew in and it's raining like Noah said something. Big time lightning, too.

Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 08:52 PM (SY1FC)

304 And with the Wilson seating die I use an arbor press made by Harrell's. Th arbor press has fewer moving parts and you can really tell by feel how much force you are exerting.

Oh, and neck tension on my match loads are about .001", so not a lot of force is required.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:53 PM (MVjcR)

305 You do know that the Marines are run by the Navy right?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 08:53 PM (6Ll1u)

306 You get a ...dill pickle.

Why thank you.
How nice !

(I hate pickles )

!

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2018 08:54 PM (lBiGz)

307 @127 *shower of spiders* I think it was in a movie once. Makes your skin crawl. Couldn't help myself.
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A spider shows up in Arachnophobia just as the neighbor's teenage daughter starts her shower. And iirc, it promptly flows... down her front with the water... and into the drain.

Posted by: junior at June 24, 2018 08:54 PM (/y4g1)

308 283 & 299. What kinda neighborhood was it? Nobody called the cops. My nearest neighbor saw me drag a garden hose into the front room to wash out the blood. He waved and asked if I was okay, and that was it. Goddamned armpit of Texas, it was.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 08:54 PM (fA1SL)

309 No, Vic is right. In strong Castle Doctrine states,
the police would not even charge you in those circumstances. Now, you
might get hit with a civil lawsuit by the late Dindu Nuffin's family,
but that is a different matter.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 24, 2018 08:49 PM (I16G

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I'd hate to be the trial case to figure out if I was in a strong Castle Doctrine state or not.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 08:55 PM (vDapD)

310 I feel so bad! I can't believe I didn't catch it.
If we ever meet, I'll make you a sammich as way of an apology.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 24, 2018 08:42 PM (e5f4b)
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Heh. No Worries!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:56 PM (MVjcR)

311 Why is the Navy doing something that directly contradicts what the CiC said wouldn't happen?
Posted by: Legion of Gloomer at June 24, 2018 08:51 PM (VFsep)

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They want to be the wokest out of all the branches.

Silly squids.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 08:56 PM (DEtB+)

312
Heh. I do plan on going down that road, though that way lies madness!
Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at June 24, 2018 08:48 PM (WEBkv)
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Save yourself!!!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:56 PM (MVjcR)

313 You do know that the Marines are run by the Navy right?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

Ummmmm.... I wouldn't bring that up in mixed company.

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2018 08:56 PM (lBiGz)

314 @200 It can be from gang violence, or even domestic abuse... and we are then supposed to take in and support the losers... I mean victims...
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So if someone made a successful asylum claim for domestic abuse from his or her spouse, could the spouse then get into the country a year or two later under the pro-family immigration rules?

Posted by: junior at June 24, 2018 08:57 PM (/y4g1)

315 I'd hate to be the trial case to figure out if I was in a strong Castle Doctrine state or not.
Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 08:55 PM (vDapD)

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Castle doctrine or not, if the local DA decides to come after you, it's going to get very expensive. Doesn't matter how right you are, the DA, if they decide to prosecute, will use their unlimited budget to try and bankrupt you into a plea bargain.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at June 24, 2018 08:57 PM (WEBkv)

316 Heh. No Worries!

Posted by: Weasel

And you can have my pickle.

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2018 08:58 PM (lBiGz)

317 I'd hate to be the trial case to figure out if I was in a strong Castle Doctrine state or not.
Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 08:55 PM (vDapD)

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I rest assured thay my city/state is just fine with the laws as written and amended, and that any test cases have been adjuticated long ago.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 24, 2018 08:59 PM (I16G8)

318 293. Interesting. My buddy is Lebanese, he said there is a community of his people in WV too.

Posted by: kallisto at June 24, 2018 08:59 PM (Sq5z0)

319 Castle doctrine or not, if the local DA decides to
come after you, it's going to get very expensive. Doesn't matter how
right you are, the DA, if they decide to prosecute, will use their
unlimited budget to try and bankrupt you into a plea bargain.

Posted by: Blake - used scripting salesman at June 24, 2018 08:57 PM (WEBkv)

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Along those lines, I've been fairly surprised that NC's new (D) governor and (D) attorney general haven't decided to make an expensive example of some law abiding citizens regarding the mail order boilerplate suppressor trusts that have become so popular. IIRC the previous AG came out and said they don't regard them as legal.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 09:00 PM (vDapD)

320 298
I use full length bushing dies for sizing. After I carefully set up the press (regular single stage for sizing) I check every 10th case or so to make sure I have a consistent bump of about .0015" or so.

Is .0015 for a bolt gun, or an autoloader?

I use a Wilson micrometer seating die because it gives a much greater 'feel' of the seating force required, and I verify/confirm the seating depth every 5 rounds or so. 21st Century Shooting makes an arbor press with a seating force gauge but after you load a zillion rounds you can just tell by feel. The necks of all my match brass are turned to a very consistent wall thickness and sized very carefully, again checking often for absolute consistency.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:49 PM (MVjcR)

Thanks. Does your seating die match the bullet profile? After seating the bullet, I see some variation in overall length from round to round. I suspect at least some of that is because the seating die bears on a different point (actually a circle) on the bullet than the calipers do when measuring OAL. With this setup any bullet-to-bullet variation in bullet shape can affect overall length.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:01 PM (bjCNA)

321
Yeah, but isn't mid Rio Grande US soil? And the wall will entirely be on US soil, right?

Posted by: clutch

That's why the wall should be 12 miles extra territorial.

Posted by: Braenyard the irredeemable at June 24, 2018 09:01 PM (Srnuc)

322 318. You ain't kidding, either. Kanawha County, where I spent most of my childhood, is more or less run by the Hadads, the Hussans, and the Ghareebs. My hometown there had a Lebanese mayor for like 50 years, no joke. Lovely Orthodox Cathedral in downtown Charleston, too.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:01 PM (fA1SL)

323 You do know that the Marines are run by the Navy right?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

Ummmmm.... I wouldn't bring that up in mixed company.

Posted by: JT at

That said.......Do you know why the Army got the Air Force and the Navy got the Marines ?

The Army had first pick.

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2018 09:02 PM (lBiGz)

324 West Virginia is where people move to to not be effed with by the law. I'm not sure they even have any building codes for residential property.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 09:02 PM (yQpMk)

325 Ok, now that I've offended everyone...

Have a good night everyone !

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2018 09:03 PM (lBiGz)

326 Honestly, if I had to shoot somebody who was trying to murder the Ingham County prosecutor on Michigan Avenue in broad daylight I'd still retain a lawyer.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 09:04 PM (fZuhk)

327 324. I think there is a building code, but it's not enforced in most places. True hillbilly way.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:04 PM (fA1SL)

328 304 Oh, and neck tension on my match loads are about .001", so not a lot of force is required.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 08:53 PM (MVjcR)

Does this mean that the necks are sized 0.001 smaller than the bullet?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:04 PM (bjCNA)

329 Ooh, ooh, I know the answer, Iowa Bob! The seating die measures from the ogive!
Weasel did teach me that.

Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 09:05 PM (SY1FC)

330 Honestly, if I had to shoot somebody who was trying
to murder the Ingham County prosecutor on Michigan Avenue in broad
daylight I'd still retain a lawyer.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 09:04 PM (fZuhk)

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Same here. Heck, I don't leave the house without a recording device running in my pocket in case the worst happens.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 09:05 PM (vDapD)

331 Guess what? The Marines set the place on n fire again

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 09:05 PM (6Ll1u)

332 That's it. Imma go out and inspect Jewbilly Orchards this weekend. Haven't seen it since I was in 6th grade.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:08 PM (fA1SL)

333 Honestly, if I had to shoot somebody who was trying to murder the Ingham County prosecutor on Michigan Avenue in broad daylight I'd still retain a lawyer.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 09:04 PM (fZuhk)

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Membership in the U.S. Concealed Carry Association comes with legal protection in the event that you have to (lawfully) use your gun. As long as it is a good shoot, you're covered on the legal side, both criminally and civilly.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 24, 2018 09:08 PM (I16G8)

334 Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:01 PM (bjCNA)
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This is all for bolt guns.

The seating die has a standard stem for the caliber. I do not use OAL (ever, ever) due to variations in the tips of bullets from the manufacturing process. I use an ogive gage (Brownells sells them) which is a hex nut with various caliber size holes. This tool indexes on the bullet olive which is consistent because I spend a stupid amount of time sorting thousands of match bullets by ogive dimension. I measure from the cartridge base to the top of the gauge using calipers.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:08 PM (RxVuE)

335

In case it didn't get passed on earlier, Steyr's annual summer sale is on until July 5, direcvt order from the factory and they will ship to your FFL and 20% of assorted stuffs.

Very nice deal on a Scout/Swarovski package...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at June 24, 2018 09:09 PM (UFLLM)

336 329 Ooh, ooh, I know the answer, Iowa Bob! The seating die measures from the ogive!
Weasel did teach me that.

Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 09:05 PM (SY1FC)

Right, the seating die operates on the ogive and the calipers measure to a different point on the bullet.

And my stupid browser spell checker doesn't know that "ogive" is a real word.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:09 PM (bjCNA)

337 Guess what? The Marines set the place on n fire again
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

It's training ... but isn't every accident training, really?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 24, 2018 09:09 PM (zfrbv)

338 Great, another thread full of tragic canoe sinkings and property loss in the wilds.

Posted by: Deacon Bleau at June 24, 2018 09:09 PM (yScAF)

339 Texas Law Shield is pretty good if you live here. See you guys tomorrow. Work and all that.

Posted by: Eromero at June 24, 2018 09:10 PM (zLDYs)

340 Does this mean that the necks are sized 0.001 smaller than the bullet?
Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:04 PM (bjCNA)
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Exactly. It can vary from load to load, but I don't spend much time trying to tune a load based on neck tension as long as it's done absolutely consistent as during load testing. Bullet jump has a much greater effect on tuning.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:11 PM (MVjcR)

341 Mentos makes a great gum. 120 for 6 bucks.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 24, 2018 09:11 PM (EM0pH)

342 Membership in the U.S. Concealed Carry Association comes with legal protection in the event that you have to (lawfully) use your gun. As long as it is a good shoot, you're covered on the legal side, both criminally and civilly.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 24, 2018 09:08 PM (I16G

My card's in my wallet. They'd be the first call I make. I say nothing to anyone until then. But they aren't the prosecutor and they don't sit on the jury. And if I get railroaded and convicted, they don't serve my sentence for me.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 09:11 PM (fZuhk)

343 327. that settles it. Me and the old man are moving to WV. He's a redneck and I have the mountains in my DNA. And he'll be able to shont in his back yard again!

Posted by: kallisto at June 24, 2018 09:12 PM (Sq5z0)

344 Best Virginia has a weird ethnic mix. Example? Family descended from Jugo Jews what drifted into Poland taught us to patronize the 'Arab' stores, since they had ajvar, slatko, and all manner of Balkan delicacies. Dey knew de wey.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:13 PM (fA1SL)

345 You do know that the Marines are run by the Navy right?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

you sure run is the right word? wouldn't owned be more appropriate?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 24, 2018 09:14 PM (MTjB1)

346 334
This is all for bolt guns.

The seating die has a standard stem for the caliber. I do not use OAL (ever, ever) due to variations in the tips of bullets from the manufacturing process. I use an ogive gage (Brownells sells them) which is a hex nut with various caliber size holes. This tool indexes on the bullet olive which is consistent because I spend a stupid amount of time sorting thousands of match bullets by ogive dimension. I measure from the cartridge base to the top of the gauge using calipers.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:08 PM (RxVuE)

Thanks, I'll have to look into the ogive gauge, I had never heard of that.

A quick search turns up the "Hornady Lock-N-Load Bullet Comparator". More reading ahead for me . . .

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:15 PM (bjCNA)

347 Hello, I'm Johnny Cash.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 09:16 PM (6Ll1u)

348 345. Heh. Grandfather was one of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children in the last war. Said squids were taxi drivers and - a best - arty support. I see nothing to contradict his assessment.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:17 PM (fA1SL)

349 My card's in my wallet. They'd be the first call I make. I say nothing to anyone until then. But they aren't the prosecutor and they don't sit on the jury. And if I get railroaded and convicted, they don't serve my sentence for me.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 09:11 PM (fZuhk)

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True enough, but if you are that worried about the prosecutors and the jury pool where you live, I would think it would be time to look good and hard at someplace else to reside.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 24, 2018 09:17 PM (I16G8)

350 4 or 5 acres... and yes, it will be a walled compound...
Posted by: Don Q at June 24, 2018 08:02 PM (NgKpN)

The problem with a walled compound is your walls can provide cover and concealment to attackers.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at June 24, 2018 09:17 PM (l7Kbv)

351 That's why the wall should be 12 miles extra territorial.

Posted by: Braenyard the irredeemable at June 24, 2018 09:01 PM (Srnuc)

As part of a NAFTA renegotiation?

Posted by: clutch at June 24, 2018 09:18 PM (kiSdp)

352 Once these pieces of shit step one toe on US soil, unfortunately the SCOTUS has ruled they get due process.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 24, 2018 08:27 PM (UfMVm)
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out here, due process is a bullet.

Posted by: John Wayne at June 24, 2018 09:19 PM (y7aoc)

353
Thanks, I'll have to look into the ogive gauge, I had never heard of that.

A quick search turns up the "Hornady Lock-N-Load Bullet Comparator". More reading ahead for me . . .
Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:15 PM (bjCNA)
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Absolutely my pleasure. Feel free to drop me a line at the cookbook address - it might be easier to discuss some of this by phone if you'd like.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:19 PM (RxVuE)

354 313 You do know that the Marines are run by the Navy right?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

Ummmmm.... I wouldn't bring that up in mixed company.
Posted by: JT at June 24, 2018 08:56 PM (lBiGz)

Pro tip: refer to Marines as "soldiers." Preferably when they already have a snootful of alcohol.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 09:19 PM (OP3/s)

355 313 You do know that the Marines are run by the Navy right?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

Actually, IIRC from my late father, Marine officers have parallel commissions in the Navy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 09:21 PM (OP3/s)

356 348 345. Heh. Grandfather was one of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children in the last war. Said squids were taxi drivers and - a best - arty support. I see nothing to contradict his assessment.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:17 PM (fA1SL)

"You can come ashore now. It's safe."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 24, 2018 09:22 PM (OP3/s)

357 The problem with a walled compound is your walls can provide cover and concealment to attackers.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at June 24, 2018 09:17 PM (l7Kbv)

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properly constructed, it channelizes them into firesacks, fougasse coverage and enfilading fire.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 09:22 PM (y7aoc)

358 All my BF does is bitch about how crowded it is here - new people. I counter with: but where will we go? Now I know. And I can still get falafel!

Posted by: kallisto at June 24, 2018 09:22 PM (Sq5z0)

359 Absolutely my pleasure. Feel free to drop me a line
at the cookbook address - it might be easier to discuss some of this by
phone if you'd like.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:19 PM (RxVuE)

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pro tip: expect a response in #twoweeks. it's teh Horde way...

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 09:23 PM (y7aoc)

360 True enough, but if you are that worried about the prosecutors and the jury pool where you live, I would think it would be time to look good and hard at someplace else to reside.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 24, 2018 09:17 PM (I16G

I'm not worried about them, I just don't trust them, no matter where I live. So the USCCA membership covers the lawyer, so I don't have to find and keep one on retainer myself, but if there weren't such an organization, I'd go out and do it.

We're pretty good about lawful self-defense around here, and odds are that you're right and I wouldn't be charged criminally if I had to defend myself, all I'm saying is that if I did have to, I'm not taking any chances before or after that eventuality. On the risk mitigation continuum, I'm probably more like Moron Robbie. That's all.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 09:24 PM (fZuhk)

361 Oh, and one thing I don't like about the Hornady Comparator - the principle is correct but the tool has a bad design in my opinion. It involves (if memory serves) screwing this contraption onto the blades of your calipers with set screws, and the whole deal can slip if you aren't careful. The Sinclair/ Brownells hex nut is simple enough that even I can't screw it up.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:24 PM (MVjcR)

362 The difference between 45 and 9 mil...
https://tinyurl.com/y8vxksyr

Hat tip to Hell Norway at Insty's

Posted by: andycanuck at June 24, 2018 09:24 PM (Evws/)

363 353
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Absolutely my pleasure. Feel free to drop me a line at the cookbook address - it might be easier to discuss some of this by phone if you'd like.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:19 PM (RxVuE)

Thanks, I might do that. I've been reloading a while, mostly pistol. I'm trying to step up my game when it comes to loading for rifle.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:24 PM (bjCNA)

364 358. Umm.....it's a little different. There's not many people here, but they're packed into towns, cheek by jowl. I can't really explain it. But compared to most places, the population density is kinda low.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:24 PM (fA1SL)

365
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pro tip: expect a response in #twoweeks. it's teh Horde way...

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 09:23 PM (y7aoc)
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I am ashamed! You did get my response, I hope!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:25 PM (MVjcR)

366
Thanks, I might do that. I've been reloading a while, mostly pistol. I'm trying to step up my game when it comes to loading for rifle.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:24 PM (bjCNA)
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Happy to help. Drop me a line.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:25 PM (MVjcR)

367 They want to be the wokest out of all the branches."

Nothing can stop the US Air Force...

Snort.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 09:25 PM (7LY+6)

368 . I can't really explain it"

Convenience. It's tough to build across ridges...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 24, 2018 09:28 PM (7LY+6)

369 Best Virginia in some ways is still a frontier area. Example - I was at a gas station in McDowell County and a sheriff's deputy asked to see my pistol. Purely curiosity on his part, and he didn't even try to ask for ID. Just one gun-nut to another.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:28 PM (fA1SL)

370 361 Oh, and one thing I don't like about the Hornady Comparator - the principle is correct but the tool has a bad design in my opinion. It involves (if memory serves) screwing this contraption onto the blades of your calipers with set screws, and the whole deal can slip if you aren't careful. The Sinclair/ Brownells hex nut is simple enough that even I can't screw it up.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:24 PM (MVjcR)

Yeah, I'm reading about it now and it looks kind of mickey mouse. Seems like variation in setscrew torque could affect repeatability if you take it on and off the calipers.

I'm about an hour from Brownells, they opened a storefront a couple of years ago and I might need to take a roadtrip next weekend.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:28 PM (bjCNA)

371 368. The Horde should look at the satellite maps of Best Virginia to really appreciate what Anon a Mouse is saying. Towns are a hundred yards wide at a mile long, at best.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:30 PM (fA1SL)

372 According to an internal memo obtained by Time magazine, the U.S. Navy has been directed to establish "temporary and austere" encampments on military installations in Alabama, Arizona and California that each could host tens of thousands of detainees.

https://tinyurl.com/yb6jsxwj

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Ummm...

Last time I checked, Alabama has no Navy or Marine Corps installations.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 09:30 PM (DEtB+)

373 I am ashamed! You did get my response, I hope!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:25 PM (MVjcR)

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you DID see the smiley face, right?

i was asking for free shit and i figure you have a life.

besides, i meant to reply to you and haven't

call us even on the deal.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 09:31 PM (y7aoc)

374 Last time I checked, Alabama has no Navy or Marine Corps installations.

Posted by: SMH

Let's send them to Ft. Polk. They'll beg to be sent home.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2018 09:32 PM (9rIkM)

375 That Bipod is probably into some borderline illegal kink....if filmed

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 24, 2018 09:33 PM (EM0pH)

376 Guess what? We have a fire on Camp Pendleton sending smoke to us.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 09:34 PM (6Ll1u)

377 Ummm...

Last time I checked, Alabama has no Navy or Marine Corps installations.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 09:30 PM (DEtB+)

Navy Outlying Field Wolf and NOF Silverhill. Outside Mobile.

Posted by: Bert G at June 24, 2018 09:35 PM (yzxic)

378 Heh. Grandfather was one of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children in the last war. Said squids were taxi drivers and - a best - arty support. I see nothing to contradict his assessment.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:17 PM

That is a base canard.

The Navy also designs, procures, and maintains the taxis.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 24, 2018 09:36 PM (DMUuz)

379 Let's send them to Ft. Polk. They'll beg to be sent home.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2018 09:32 PM (9rIkM)

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The hubby was stationed at Polk in the mid-80s.

Hated it.

He lol'd when I read your comment to him.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 09:37 PM (DEtB+)

380 Dad has a 1911 I always thought it was funny that he mostly shot Wadcutters. Only because it's an odd name for a bullet. Do they make Wadcutters in any other caliber than .45?

Posted by: X-ray at June 24, 2018 09:38 PM (Eb6Rt)

381 Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 09:31 PM (y7aoc)
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All good, amigo!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:39 PM (RxVuE)

382 380. Cast bullet, mostly. I'm told that a 44 Special loaded with inverted wadcutters is a damned fine self defence weapon.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:40 PM (fA1SL)

383 The hubby was stationed at Polk in the mid-80s.

Early 70's for me. Ruined me on going anywhere in the whole state for a long time.

Posted by: dartist at June 24, 2018 09:41 PM (K22Va)

384 They're always catching that place on fire

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 24, 2018 09:42 PM (6Ll1u)

385

I'm about an hour from Brownells, they opened a storefront a couple of years ago and I might need to take a roadtrip next weekend.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:28 PM (bjCNA)
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Lucky! Say hello to all my money while you're there.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:42 PM (RxVuE)

386 Last time I checked, Alabama has no Navy or Marine Corps installations.
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They meant North Dakota.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 24, 2018 09:42 PM (Evws/)

387 Love going down to West Virginia. Beautiful country.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 24, 2018 09:43 PM (89T5c)

388 Do they make Wadcutters in any other caliber than .45?
Posted by: X-ray at June 24, 2018 09:38 PM (Eb6Rt)

They're really popular in revolvers. You can find them for other auto cartridges besides .45, but for whatever reason they aren't as common as they are in revolvers. If I had to guess, it's probably some vestigial hangup about *throws dart* feeding ramp issues. Plus they're usually bare lead and people use FMJ ball for 9mm range ammo.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 09:43 PM (fZuhk)

389 380 & 382. I hasten to add that it is in all respects vastly inferior to 7.62 Tok in any loading. The One True Round, it is.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:43 PM (fA1SL)

390 Here's the two locations in Alabama they're talking about using for the illegals:
NOF Wolf: https://tinyurl.com/yda7h58n
NOF Silverhill: https://tinyurl.com/ydhy3dnd

Posted by: Bert G at June 24, 2018 09:43 PM (yzxic)

391 Protesters are going on a hunger strike to protest the little invaders being kept with their parents. It will last... Wait for it...

24.hours! lulz.

In others words one intermediate fast. Hollywood is joining in.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/06/24/ westworld-star-evan-rachel-wood-endures- 24-hour-hunger-strike-to-protest-border-enforcement/

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 24, 2018 09:44 PM (EM0pH)

392 They want to be the wokest out of all the branches.
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 08:56 PM

This.

Posted by: Ray Mabus at June 24, 2018 09:46 PM (DMUuz)

393 Lead semi wad cutters are damn fine target bullets. Shoot them in .45 ACP and .38. Nice clean holes.

Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 09:46 PM (SY1FC)

394 Cast bullet, mostly. I'm told that a 44 Special loaded with inverted wadcutters is a damned fine self defence weapon.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine.

Thanks for the answer. Though it likely will have been similar to eating lead paint chips. I have fond memories of casting .30 cal bullets with my brother for reloading.

Posted by: X-ray at June 24, 2018 09:46 PM (Eb6Rt)

395

Oregoners, for CHL do ALL Sheriffs require a personal appearance or do some counties let you apply via mail? I have adjoing state paperwork...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at June 24, 2018 09:46 PM (UFLLM)

396 Navy Outlying Field Wolf and NOF Silverhill...

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Huh...

Whatdya know...

Report: Navy documents show plans to house 25,000 migrants in Orange Beach, Silverhill areas

https://tinyurl.com/y7upz3wx

Mosquitoes are gonna eat them alive...

Seems that these places were chosen due to the high probability that the tenants will be uncomfortable at a minimum.

Plus, with military personnel having to babysit?

Hilarity is about to ensue.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 09:47 PM (DEtB+)

397 385

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Lucky! Say hello to all my money while you're there.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:42 PM (RxVuE)

. . . while I say goodby to some of mine.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:47 PM (bjCNA)

398 Though it likely will have been similar to eating lead paint chips. I have fond memories of casting .30 cal bullets with my brother for reloading.
Posted by: X-ray at June 24, 2018 09:46 PM (Eb6Rt)

Nothing wrong with nibbling a little wall candy.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 09:48 PM (fZuhk)

399 Wadcutters are usually a revolver cartridge because they often won't feed reliably in a semi-auto. Typically cast and loaded with light charges for comfort and accuracy. They are popular for 'cutting' clean holes in targets making it easy to score them.

I've seen them in 32 long, 38 special, and 44 special calibers. I shoot a lot of them in 32 and 38.

Posted by: JTB at June 24, 2018 09:48 PM (V+03K)

400 394. Lead? Meh. We're not exposed to anything like the heavy metals what made our ancestors tough. Grew up where people burned coal in the winter - lead and mercury all over and in everything - air, water, soil. Builds character and promotes natural selection.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:49 PM (fA1SL)

401 393 Lead semi wad cutters are damn fine target bullets. Shoot them in .45 ACP and .38. Nice clean holes.
Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 09:46 PM (SY1FC)
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Check out Berry's Mfg plated semi-wadcutters. I've loaded thousands for plinking. You have to be careful with magnum velocities to avoid ripping the plating off but I have never had it happen. Just load them to published lead velocities and they're great. Very economical.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:50 PM (RxVuE)

402 Who ordered the grilled snapper?

Posted by: MikeinJersey at June 24, 2018 09:50 PM (zotEy)

403 At some point I'd like to hold a precision rifle
clinic over a weekend for anyone interested. I'm building a 400 yd
range to start but will probably push that back to 800 yards or so at
some point.

Posted by: Weasel
I'd so be up for that, if I could wrangle the free time! Just getting my LR rig together now!

Posted by: Oedipus at June 24, 2018 09:51 PM (CXLVd)

404 401. Again, superior 7.62 Tok carries the day. Steel projectile with a copper wash, exiting the pistol barrel at near-rifle velocity.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:51 PM (fA1SL)

405 I find that the semi wad cutters feed reliably in my 1911 and Glock 21. They have that nice little cone in the center that seems to assist in feeding.

Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 09:51 PM (SY1FC)

406 Tower, this is Ghost Rider requesting a flyby.

Posted by: Malignant Johnny at June 24, 2018 09:53 PM (J7XgW)

407 how about we build one nice big austere encampment for them al on NE Planet Irwin? won't even need guards for it.

i wanna see the protesters go out there in the summer too...

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 09:53 PM (y7aoc)

408
Posted by: Weasel
I'd so be up for that, if I could wrangle the free time! Just getting my LR rig together now!
Posted by: Oedipus at June 24, 2018 09:51 PM (CXLVd)
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Good for you! Are you planning to compete? When I get ready to do something I'll mention it here.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:53 PM (RxVuE)

409 362>> Yessir. That's perfect.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 24, 2018 09:53 PM (qWg0i)

410 406. Negative, Ghost Rider. Pattern is full.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:54 PM (fA1SL)

411 I'll give the Berry's plated a try, weasel. I've had good luck with their other offerings.

Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 09:54 PM (SY1FC)

412 396

Mosquitoes are gonna eat them alive...

Seems that these places were chosen due to the high probability that the tenants will be uncomfortable at a minimum.

Plus, with military personnel having to babysit?

Hilarity is about to ensue.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 09:47 PM (DEtB+)

Keep them down south until October, then move them to North Dakota for the winter, then back to Alabama in April. Lather, rinse, repeat. Anyone who gets tired and wants to give up on asylum can volunteer for a one-way ride to Matamoros.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:54 PM (bjCNA)

413 okay, i give up: what is a "Scope Rail Inclination"?

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 09:55 PM (y7aoc)

414
Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 09:54 PM (SY1FC)
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Just keep them under 1100fps or so and they'll be fine. Good luck!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:56 PM (RxVuE)

415 413. Is something discussed by veak veshterners firing inferior, non-Kalashnikov platform rifles. Iron sights are sufficient for warrior heroes of SMR.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 09:56 PM (fA1SL)

416 Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 09:53 PM (y7aoc)

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LOL!

They'll beg to go back home.

When soldiers prefer the middle east to that hellhole...

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 09:57 PM (DEtB+)

417 what's that island off of Puerto Rico the Navy used to use a gunnery range?

put them there.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 09:57 PM (y7aoc)

418 Scope rail inclination. Sound like the ramp you put under a .22 scope to get enough elevation to sight at 150-200 yds. Like a little wedge.

Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 09:58 PM (SY1FC)

419 Silverhill is in Baldwin County Alabama, right next to Robertsdale on the road to Orange Beach and Gulf Shores. I think they tried to put immigrant children there under Obama, but not as detainees, as wards.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 24, 2018 09:59 PM (yQpMk)

420 401 393 Lead semi wad cutters are damn fine target bullets. Shoot them in .45 ACP and .38. Nice clean holes.
Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 09:46 PM (SY1FC)
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Check out Berry's Mfg plated semi-wadcutters. I've loaded thousands for plinking. You have to be careful with magnum velocities to avoid ripping the plating off but I have never had it happen. Just load them to published lead velocities and they're great. Very economical.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:50 PM (RxVuE)

I shoot mostly hard cast in handguns, up to maybe 1000 or 1100 FPS in .357. Never any problem, as long as I keep the velocity down.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:59 PM (bjCNA)

421 413 okay, i give up: what is a "Scope Rail Inclination"?
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 09:55 PM (y7aoc)
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The back of the rail is higher than the front of the rail. It moves the mechanical center zero of the scope down and buys you 'up' elevation. I have 30degree rails on my match guns.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 09:59 PM (RxVuE)

422 BTW: i lied on the food thread.

dinner tonight is a "New Jersey Roast" of the ribeye persuasion.

2+lbs, went on the fire about 8 minutes ago... should be on the plate in another 12 +/-

yeah, we eat'em rare around here, because we know what's good.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 09:59 PM (y7aoc)

423 okay, i give up: what is a "Scope Rail Inclination"?
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 09:55 PM (y7aoc)

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It is basically a long range bullet elevation/drop adjustment feature on some TAC scope mounts.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 24, 2018 10:00 PM (I16G8)

424 421. Weasel - as expert in full-powered rifle, I am curious to learn your opinion of 7.62x54R. I am thinking to add a rifle in this calibre.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 10:00 PM (fA1SL)

425 what's that island off of Puerto Rico the Navy used to use a gunnery range?
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 09:57 PM (y7aoc)

Vieques.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 24, 2018 10:00 PM (fZuhk)

426
I shoot mostly hard cast in handguns, up to maybe 1000 or 1100 FPS in .357. Never any problem, as long as I keep the velocity down.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at June 24, 2018 09:59 PM (bjCNA)
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Keep the plated bullets there or below and they're fine!

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 10:01 PM (RxVuE)

427 Ont is nood.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 10:01 PM (fA1SL)

428 That will be so great if Trump is positioning to make pro-illegal folks complain and talk at length about us letting illegals stay here.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 24, 2018 10:01 PM (VgKNm)

429 Ok, off to check the ont, then hit the rack. Nice info tonight.

Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2018 10:03 PM (SY1FC)

430 red,

Other suggestions (by the hubby):

Kaho'olawe (former target isle of Navy in Hawai'i)

Johnston Atoll

Midway

Good luck getting protesters out there.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 24, 2018 10:04 PM (DEtB+)

431 if you read down on the Mausingfield page, their destructive testing program is impressive.

Posted by: redc1c4 at June 24, 2018 10:04 PM (y7aoc)

432 372. another leaked memo.

Posted by: kallisto at June 24, 2018 10:04 PM (7+QLY)

433 424 421. Weasel - as expert in full-powered rifle, I am curious to learn your opinion of 7.62x54R. I am thinking to add a rifle in this calibre.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 10:00 PM (fA1SL)
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I really don't have any direct experience with it. I think it's somewhere between a .308 and .30-06 if I'm not mistaken. Probably similar to the M2 Ball performance but I'm really only guessing.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 10:08 PM (MVjcR)

434 Past my bedtime. Night everybody.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2018 10:10 PM (RxVuE)

435 433. A day doesn't pass without my regretting not snapping up an SVT 40 when they were plentiful and cheap.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 24, 2018 10:16 PM (fA1SL)

436 Good for you! Are you planning to compete? When I get ready to do something I'll mention it here.

Posted by: Weasel
No...maybe. We get some good ones around here, but I've really just been wanting to shoot in the Designated Marksman Matches we have around here at Woody's near Raleigh, and do so until I place middle-of-the-pack. I would also like to be at least a respectable contender at some of the Bang Steel competitions near Wytheville, VA. Those look like tons of fun. Once my rig is done, I'll be taking (and probably re-taking, because I'm not such a great student at anything, lol) the Bang Steel course.

I have no delusions as to my skill potential. I would simply like to get good enough to not embarrass myself with my performance at local/regional competitions, like I did back in my 3-gun days. I tend to avoid competitions that include "sponsored" competitors.

Posted by: Oedipus at June 24, 2018 10:31 PM (CXLVd)

437 gun control the liberals say no problem! they say make the penalty the same for having a gun the same for having child pornography.

Posted by: not long now at June 24, 2018 11:22 PM (lxm5C)

438 Twenty ish years ago my brother and I returned from an across state trip to a swap meet to my residence, an apartment in a 4 -plex in a not very nice part of town to find the lights on. Crap. Pretty sure I had turned those off. I asked him to accompany me on my way in to clear the place. We walked up the six or so stairs side by side. Drew our handguns as I grabbed the door knob . Not locked. Crap. Pretty certain I had locked it. Bad neighborhood. Not that I had much of value to steal having gone thru a brutal divorce a couple years prior. I asked if he was still with me. Yes. I opened the door and entered. My brother surveyed the room and said " shit, They trashed the place." No, I said. This is how I left it. We cleared it anyway, but I am now a much better housekeeper. Was still scary.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at June 25, 2018 12:35 AM (xUjzl)

439 Koko died screaming her hands off for help but no one saw.

Posted by: Deacon Bleau at June 25, 2018 01:31 AM (yScAF)

440 Did I see this room in Tremors?

Posted by: Jim H at June 25, 2018 06:56 AM (vE0fx)

441 421 " I have 30 degree rails on my match guns." Really? Not 30 MOA?

Posted by: richard at June 25, 2018 07:15 AM (hUZo5)

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