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How Did Peter Strzok's "We'll Stop It" Text Get Deleted or Go Missing from Archiving?
Here's the efforts it took to get the text back -- efforts, of course, that the FBI did not take, preferring to let buried evidence lie.
What Horowitz did not explain -- and was not asked -- was why Strzok's portion of the Aug. 8, 2016 message was so difficult to find. Horowitz said that the FBI’s failure to discover the text messages raises concerns about whether the bureau was able to collect all of its agents’ and officials' text messages. "We are not convinced that the FBI was collecting 100 percent of the text messages," he said.The official story we're getting is that this text wasn't originally archived because there was a period of several months when the automatic-archiving system wasn't capturing texts. But... As Mollie Hemingway points out starting around 16:00 here, that December-May glitch where texts weren't being auto-archived does not include the August "We'll stop it" text -- so why was that text not turned over? Did Peter Stzok intentionally delete it? And if so, what does that suggest about his state of mind -- you know, his intent? Prosecutors routinely cite efforts to cover up an action as consciousness of guilt and therefore as proof of intent. Also see Sheryl Atkinson's discussion of the FBI's and DOJ's illegal redactions of information not for "national security purposes," but for the forbidden purpose of sparing them from embarrassment and/or criminal inquiry.
The head of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), is not only seeking redacted material but also is trying to find out who is responsible for withholding it.
Improper redactions are when federal reviewers - -in consultation with their political masters -- block out parts of documents that the public or Congress is entitled to see. Under policy and law, redactions are only permitted in limited, carefully defined circumstances, such as to protect national security. After all, government officials do not lord over us; they work for us, on our behalf. They own neither the documents they generate nor the information they collect; we do.
Yet, too often, the feds have redacted information in an apparent attempt to obstruct efforts to investigate their actions, or to prevent release of material that implicates them in embarrassing behavior or wrongdoing.
...
He includes some seemingly outrageous examples found among text messages written by FBI agent Peter Strzok to his reported then-lover, FBI attorney Lisa Page. One of them reads, "Currently fighting with Stu for this FISA," where "Stu for this FISA" was redacted in a version turned over to Congress.
"FISA" refers to the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which dictates limited terms under which the FBI can wiretap U.S. citizens. It's not known who "Stu" is but a man named Stuart Evans is National Security Division deputy assistant attorney general at the Justice Department. And the date of the text coincides with the timeframe in which FBI agents successfully convinced a FISA judge to let them wiretap Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.
Other redactions included: "Went well, best we could have expected. Other than L.C.'s quote, 'the White house is running this'” (the initials “L.C.” had been redacted); and "Jesus. More BO leaks in the NYT" ("BO" had been redacted).
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 19, 2018 07:55 PM (myjNJ)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 19, 2018 07:56 PM (myjNJ)
not buying horowitz explanation here, they found it on the 4th go around after they got the phones as if the most explosive of the texts coincidentally was hidden by some electronic glitch.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 19, 2018 07:58 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 19, 2018 07:58 PM (hyuyC)
So, as long suspected, Barack Obama was up to his jug ears in spying on candidate Trump and then covering up the spying once Mrs. Rapist lost the election.
In a just and sane world, he would be imprisoned for a very long stretch.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2018 07:58 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: wooga at June 19, 2018 07:58 PM (43VTL)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (WEBkv)
*Or highly vindictive person who does not like his family being threatened.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: oh brother at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (6OUNd)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 19, 2018 08:00 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2018 08:00 PM (qWg0i)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 19, 2018 08:00 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Gitmo Bound at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (Yc8Cz)
I would share that on my FB and and then comment about every week to keep it up there just to annoy the idiot liberals.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (eASYU)
Posted by: Tofer732 at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (gYXxt)
FWIW, I think they are still spying and undermining Trump in the intelligence agencies.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 19, 2018 08:00 PM (r+sAi)
And the EPA, and IRS (Koskinen is still there), and DoE, and DHS, and HHS, and ICC, and FCC and State, and DoD and...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (VM6ev)
Give the agents a few hand tools, the means to keep them sharp and and a pile of logs and rocks.
Make sure they're dumped in North Dakota around about September, when things just start to cool off a bit and tell them winter starts in three weeks and it gets really cold about Thanksgiving..so, they best get a move on if they want shelter.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (WEBkv)
Last Friday. Just reported today.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 08:02 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Tofer732 at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (gYXxt)
... and stood up in front of a wall like Woody Allen in "Casino Royale?"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 19, 2018 08:02 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: SMOD Keeper at June 19, 2018 08:02 PM (TvRUZ)
Posted by: Tofer732 at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (gYXxt)
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Saw that. Made me go "Wo" loud enough for my wife to hear.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 19, 2018 08:03 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 19, 2018 08:03 PM (myjNJ)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 19, 2018 08:00 PM (qWg0i)
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What he said!
Congrats!
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 19, 2018 08:03 PM (WEBkv)
G-d knows how much else is "sleeping" in their databases.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:04 PM (UiRxW)
Posted by: Revolving Door Democracy at June 19, 2018 08:04 PM (Yc8Cz)
Oh, and Rep. Meadows (Mike Hammer's guy) outed two redacted names from the IG report - two lawyers who Meadows says (and Horowitz confirmed) work for Office of General Counsel at the FBI, not in counter-intel (the rationale for redacting their names, per Horowitz).
Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 08:04 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2018 08:04 PM (sdi6R)
260 Horde, I have a question. If somebody makes a sttaemnt from 1.5 years ago in a letter and then gets it notarized without changing the date from the letter and the notary is almost 2 years later... Can you do that? Is that even legal? What about making a change in the year without initaling it by the signee and the notary? Is that legal?
Man this really stinks. Any advice or help would be appreciated.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (NLQj5)
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 08:04 PM (NLQj5)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 19, 2018 08:03 PM (myjNJ)
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Embrace the "and."
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 19, 2018 08:04 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: West at June 19, 2018 08:04 PM (fZlu3)
Not sure if this posted already, but Strzok was escorted out of FBI HQ this afternoon
Posted by: Tofer732 at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (gYXxt)
If that is true then his usefulness has ended and another sacrifice on Hillary's Altar has been made.
Yeah, I do not get the Siren call Hillary puts out.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 08:04 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: Tofer732 at June 19, 2018 08:01 PM (gYXxt)
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Saw that. Made me go "Wo" loud enough for my wife to hear.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 19, 2018 08:03 PM (WEBkv)
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Made me go why the **** did it take this long?
Posted by: redridinghood at June 19, 2018 08:05 PM (PvFoN)
Haven't they used that bullshit excuse before?
Posted by: buzzion at June 19, 2018 08:05 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: Tentotwo at June 19, 2018 08:05 PM (yhf6w)
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Iranian backed Shia inbreed rebel army. Avg. IQs of 70-80, but with Persian built SRBMs.
Ain't the ME grand?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:06 PM (UiRxW)
Posted by: MAGA at June 19, 2018 08:06 PM (LnOh3)
Posted by: Bosk at June 19, 2018 08:06 PM (fjMEv)
Lots of room for Quonset huts at Minot AFB. Both offices and quarters "you are required to live on base..."
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 08:06 PM (0QYMt)
In the car, on radio, I heard Rep. Jordan (I think) saying today that DOJ had the infamous "we'll stop it" message for over a month before it was provided to Congress. Something like that. I had thought it was discovered just prior to the IG report being delivered.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 08:06 PM (QDnY+)
Thank about that for a moment. Anyone else from either party and we'd never have seen any of this.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 19, 2018 08:06 PM (WEBkv)
260 Horde, I have a question. If somebody makes a sttaemnt from 1.5 years ago in a letter and then gets it notarized without changing the date from the letter and the notary is almost 2 years later... Can you do that? Is that even legal? What about making a change in the year without initaling it by the signee and the notary? Is that legal?
Man this really stinks. Any advice or help would be appreciated.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM (NLQj5)
The notary stamp only recognizes that the letter was as examined at the time of notarization. You can't back-date notarizations. (or much of anything, really).
Posted by: West at June 19, 2018 08:06 PM (fZlu3)
It's true. His lawyer, the one people were asking just last week why Strzok had retained, has already released a statement.
He was escorted out last Friday not today, it's just that our ever vigilant media didn't discover it until today.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 08:07 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 19, 2018 08:08 PM (myjNJ)
Happy Birthday Wishes, madamemayhem!
Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2018 08:04 PM (sdi6R)
I tried it twice without the word "wishes" and it didn't appear. Maybe Pixy thought it was spam after a certain number of commenters said the same thing.
Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2018 08:08 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 19, 2018 08:08 PM (myjNJ)
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Happy 29th, ya lusty wench
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:09 PM (UiRxW)
Its true that we never would have saw squat if hillary was elected, it is also true if people do not get jail time, this crap will continue.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 19, 2018 08:09 PM (r+sAi)
You know he leaked all over the Golf Cart Seat, too?
Posted by: Raggie Love at June 19, 2018 08:09 PM (+FSZM)
Posted by: CMU VET at June 19, 2018 08:09 PM (C+wjz)
He was escorted out last Friday not today, it's just that our ever vigilant media didn't discover it until today.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 08:07 PM (/tu
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I believe you said Strzok was cooperating, yes?
Posted by: MAGA at June 19, 2018 08:09 PM (LnOh3)
Posted by: West at June 19, 2018 08:06 PM (fZlu3)
Wait - what if the guy is a Democrat? Then ... anything goes, right?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 08:10 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: redridinghood at June 19, 2018 08:05 PM (PvFoN)
Every single FBI agent we have heard about so far should be out of a job right now. That fact that they are not is a sign of just how f-ed the system is today.
If they worked for corporations they all would have been shit canned or "resigned" months ago.
Posted by: West at June 19, 2018 08:10 PM (fZlu3)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:09 PM (UiRxW)
Now THERE'S some wishcasting.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 08:11 PM (YqDXo)
Mikey, a few years ago a B-52 came to the airshow here, I joked with the crew about how I remember - vaguely - back when the age of the planes *first* matched the age of the crews (back in the 80s), and now the planes are twice the age of these guys.
They were based in Minot. As they said, the only time they got away, they went to Barksdale, Guam, Diego Garcia. So they had two guys at a time with the plane at the airshow, everybody else at the suite they'd rented downtown (party!), no sleep was expected for days. Funny.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 08:11 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 19, 2018 08:11 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: West at June 19, 2018 08:10 PM (fZlu3)
Not true. Some would be "VP of special projects," one of which would be "finding another job."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 08:12 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Octopussy at June 19, 2018 08:12 PM (LylvR)
Not much of a surprise. "
"A source close to the White House said..." (BO giggles)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 19, 2018 08:12 PM (wBMGD)
Posted by: West at June 19, 2018 08:06 PM (fZlu3)
Wait - what if the guy is a Democrat? Then ... anything goes, right?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 08:10 PM (YqDXo)
Well, if it is Hilary, she can back date a document and erase the confidential markings while you are watching, and that is totes OK.
Posted by: West at June 19, 2018 08:12 PM (fZlu3)
Seems likely at some level. As long as he was employed he was under the control of DOJ and subject to the IG. Apparently his usefulness ended when the IG released his report.
Would also seem to indicate that Horowitz is pretty far along with the FISA abuse part of his investigation. That would seem to be where his real exposure lies.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 08:12 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 19, 2018 08:13 PM (myjNJ)
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Could be. Our crappy media told me it was an SRBM they fired at the Riyadh airport.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:13 PM (UiRxW)
Posted by: West at June 19, 2018 08:12 PM (fZlu3)
Thanks for the fatwa.
Or in her case, the drunkwa.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 08:13 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: West at June 19, 2018 08:14 PM (fZlu3)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 08:14 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:13 PM (UiRxW)
the media would not know a BM from a BM.
Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 08:14 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 19, 2018 08:15 PM (myjNJ)
You know he leaked all over the Golf Cart Seat, too?
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Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 19, 2018 08:15 PM (9BLnV)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 19, 2018 08:16 PM (4ErVI)
Crystal ball future vision says:
Mr. Wray what punishment did Stzrok and Page incur for their crimes?
We don't discuss personnel matters.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 19, 2018 08:16 PM (r+sAi)
Man this really stinks. Any advice or help would be appreciated.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM
Dr. Rockzo - it's difficult to be precise when obviously there is a lot going on here, more than you could possibly relate in that post. But, it's possible - IF the person who authored the letter took it a year and a half later to a notary, and then re-signed the letter in the notary's presence, and attested to the truth of everything he stated (is this an affidavit? what is it?) then it could be valid.
As to changes - a notary can only certify signatures and initials that are made in his or her presence.
But if someone makes any change on a document AFTER it has been notarized, that probably makes the entire document invalid for any legal purpose.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2018 08:17 PM (V2Yro)
that didn't occur to me but that's just as bad.
Posted by: ace at June 19, 2018 08:17 PM (PA9oZ)
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ValJar's Daughter reported it according to "SOURCES"
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 19, 2018 08:17 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Christopher Wray: Top G-Man at June 19, 2018 08:17 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: goon at June 19, 2018 08:17 PM (PEcU2)
Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 19, 2018 08:18 PM (vDapD)
Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 08:14 PM (n13/j)
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GlobalSecurity,org says they have something called an M-7, similar to the Soviet SS-21.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:18 PM (UiRxW)
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that didn't occur to me but that's just as bad.
Posted by: ace at June 19, 2018 08:17 PM (PA9oZ)
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If this was RUSSIA!!! and counterintelligence then wouldn't Barack Obama receive daily updates in his morning briefings?
Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 19, 2018 08:19 PM (vDapD)
If they worked for corporations they all would have been shit canned or "resigned" months ago.
Posted by: West at June 19, 2018 08:10 PM (fZlu3)
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And what is really mind blowing is that POTUS fired FBI director, James Comey , upon the recommendation of Rod Rosenstein and POTUS is being accused and investigated for obstruction of justice?
Posted by: redridinghood at June 19, 2018 08:19 PM (PvFoN)
The Strzok: " What the hell was I supposed to do, ya moron?"
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 19, 2018 08:20 PM (EoRCO)
FWIW, I think they are still spying and undermining Trump in the intelligence agencies.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 19, 2018 08:00 PM (r+sAi)
Trump is fully aware of this and may have a list already. He is going for the long game, so be patient.
Posted by: Roy at June 19, 2018 08:20 PM (ABjxW)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 08:07 PM (/tuJf)
They were too busy running happy stories about the executive summary to the IG report and switching immediately to "Won't someone think of the children?"
It must really be bad, because the "screaming children being ripped out of their mother's arms by a demon with orange hair" thing would have been better deployed around October 20, not two weeks before July 4th when most people are not paying any attention to that crap but us.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 08:20 PM (0QYMt)
Remember comrades, there isn't a Deep State. That's just made up stuff by Fox News and talk radio
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 19, 2018 08:21 PM (SiINZ)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 19, 2018 08:21 PM (myjNJ)
we're not ripping children from mothers, it's more like children sitting on santa's lap in a department store. sure, some kids will cry, but everyone loves santa. santa is a great american and if you call santa hitler - that's like calling jesus hitler. so stuff it, hater.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 19, 2018 08:21 PM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: Roy at June 19, 2018 08:22 PM (ABjxW)
Man this really stinks. Any advice or help would be appreciated.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM
Dr. Rockzo - it's difficult to be precise when obviously there is a lot going on here, more than you could possibly relate in that post. But, it's possible - IF the person who authored the letter took it a year and a half later to a notary, and then re-signed the letter in the notary's presence, and attested to the truth of everything he stated (is this an affidavit? what is it?) then it could be valid.
As to changes - a notary can only certify signatures and initials that are made in his or her presence.
But if someone makes any change on a document AFTER it has been notarized, that probably makes the entire document invalid for any legal purpose.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2018 08:17 PM (V2Yro)
Tom, a notary can't assert that someone was telling the truth about some past event - that is not in the scope of the profession. What the notary can attest to is what the document looked like at the time of notarization and that the parties supplied and identified their signatures (the notary is actually supposed to be watching, but that is often, um, glossed over).
Absolutely nothing is asserted as fact before the time of notarization.
Posted by: West at June 19, 2018 08:22 PM (fZlu3)
"Aitan D. Goelman is a trial lawyer who focuses his practice on white-collar criminal defense, securities and commodities litigation, and complex commercial litigation.
Aitan has tried more than 50 cases to verdict and, until February 2017, served as Director in the Enforcement Division of the U.S. Commodities Futures Trading Commission (CFTC).
Earlier in his career he served as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York."
So this just confirms for me that "Pete" is in bigger trouble than simply a possible wrongful termination or some other challenge of employment law. You don't hire a criminal defense attorney for that. That would be like getting a rheumatolgist to consult with you for your gynecological problems.
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 19, 2018 08:22 PM (y3aQB)
That doesn't mean he's not cooperating, of course.
He was kept in HR as a big "fuck you," hubris on meth. That became unviable for some reason last Friday.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 19, 2018 08:23 PM (dEJuU)
Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2018 08:23 PM (r9UYA)
Fantastic dancing
I can't believe she's 71. She looks 40 at most.
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at June 19, 2018 08:23 PM (hMwEB)
Did they express any opinions about Minot in winter, when the only things between you and the North Pole are three strands of barbed wire on the Canadian border?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 08:23 PM (0QYMt)
I think of the children.
"Wait, wasn't there someone else we should deport? Oh yeah, the children!"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 08:23 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 08:14 PM (n13/j)
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GlobalSecurity,org says they have something called an M-7, similar to the Soviet SS-21.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:18 PM (UiRxW)
I was just making a lame joke about the media in general, not disputing what you said. I will look into it now since you brought it up. Thanks.
Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 08:24 PM (n13/j)
Strozk: "I'm going to DisneyWorld!!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2018 08:24 PM (V2Yro)
How the hell is it June already?! How did almost half a year elapse already? I know time flies, but this year accelerated. Maybe the weather is part of it...sucksville.
I have achieved some goals, but a lot are still pending when they should be complete.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 19, 2018 08:24 PM (tQASX)
A guy can dream, right?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:25 PM (UiRxW)
The longer range stuff are modified Scuds or different evolutions the Iranians, and mumble mumble the Norks mumble mumble have been cooperating on.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 08:25 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 19, 2018 08:25 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: IanDeal at June 19, 2018 08:25 PM (5mrLG)
Would also seem to indicate that Horowitz is pretty far along with the FISA abuse part of his investigation. That would seem to be where his real exposure lies.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 08:12 PM (/tuJf)
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Yeah right.
Seems more likely he wasn't cooperating at all and all this "Strzok and Page are cooperating" was just a bunch of BS.
Posted by: MAGA at June 19, 2018 08:25 PM (LnOh3)
We haven't even gotten to his involvement with the Trump/Russia investigation. He has much bigger exposure there.
I'd say he's well and truly fucked.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 08:26 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 19, 2018 08:26 PM (vDapD)
Strozk: "I'm going to DisneyWorld!!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2018 08:24 PM (V2Yro)
How about a Pinochet helicopter ride instead
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 19, 2018 08:26 PM (SiINZ)
Little office on the prairie sounds like a good move for them. I hope they are good at building with Sod.
Posted by: X-ray at June 19, 2018 08:26 PM (IoWN7)
Of course you're right - it's hard to understand what's actually going on here.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2018 08:26 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 19, 2018 08:27 PM (EV0ql)
https://twitter.com/jabeale/status/
1009090035591901186
Posted by: andycanuck at June 19, 2018 08:27 PM (Evws/)
That's what our state governments' children/family services do when the old man and baby mama get locked up here - send them to grandma.
Posted by: Roy at June 19, 2018 08:27 PM (ABjxW)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 19, 2018 08:27 PM (myjNJ)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2018 08:27 PM (+Dllb)
Strozk: "I'm going to DisneyWorld!!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2018 08:24 PM (V2Yro)
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Since he's still collecting a salary, he probably is going to the Magic Kingdom for an nice vaca.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 19, 2018 08:27 PM (PvFoN)
Man this really stinks. Any advice or help would be appreciated.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 07:59 PM
Dr. Rockzo - it's difficult to be precise when obviously there is a lot going on here, more than you could possibly relate in that post. But, it's possible - IF the person who authored the letter took it a year and a half later to a notary, and then re-signed the letter in the notary's presence, and attested to the truth of everything he stated (is this an affidavit? what is it?) then it could be valid.
As to changes - a notary can only certify signatures and initials that are made in his or her presence.
But if someone makes any change on a document AFTER it has been notarized, that probably makes the entire document invalid for any legal purpose.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 19, 2018 08:17 PM (V2Yro)
The date on the notary page was changed by pen with no initials at all about the correction. So we have no idea if this person even wanted this statement to be a sworn statement and get involved at this late of a date. Almost 2 years later since the original letter and the date was changed by pen with on initials.
And the letter itself was hidden from us for over 2 years and the noterized affidavit part of the later was never given to us but filed to the clerk without delivering it to us as required by the courts.
I just found out while doing due diligence.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 08:28 PM (NLQj5)
He hired a very expensive attorney. That could be an abundance of caution showing, or maybe an indication of just how screwed he really is.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 08:28 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 19, 2018 08:28 PM (EV0ql)
No doubt. He was immediately demoted from the 2nd in command in the FBI counterintelligence group to filing papers in HR as some sort of super duper top secret fuck you or something.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 08:28 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2018 08:29 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Roy at June 19, 2018 08:22 PM (ABjxW)
I think of the "people sitting in their cars crying" report after...I don't remember who it was now...was let go. How no one had faith anymore. I can't keep up with the turnover, but everytime someone is let go I wait for the "people crying in their cars in the parking lot" report.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 19, 2018 08:29 PM (tQASX)
Without the "odomy" sod means nothing to them.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at June 19, 2018 08:29 PM (IcT7t)
Posted by: redridinghood at June 19, 2018 08:29 PM (PvFoN)
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I don't know how this works. I would think it would have to be expensive.
If I were an attorney, I would need a big ass pile of cash to sleep on, after defending this bastard.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:30 PM (UiRxW)
How the hell is it June already?! How did almost half a year elapse already? I know time flies, but this year accelerated. Maybe the weather is part of it...sucksville.
I have achieved some goals, but a lot are still pending when they should be complete.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 19, 2018 08:24 PM (tQASX)
Time tends to accelerate once you turn 29.
Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2018 08:30 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Roy at June 19, 2018 08:22 PM (ABjxW)
I hope so.
Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 08:30 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: President Brick Shot at June 19, 2018 08:30 PM (QLvwG)
You can't change a date on a notary page without having initials made to the dates changed from print to ink.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 08:31 PM (NLQj5)
https://twitter.com/jabeale/status/
1009090035591901186
Posted by: andycanuck at June 19, 2018 08:27 PM (Evws/)
I tried it and got "does not exist" twitter page.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 19, 2018 08:32 PM (tQASX)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 19, 2018 08:32 PM (myjNJ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, deplorable cultist at June 19, 2018 08:32 PM (wA0yZ)
What's going on with McCabe?
He shot 2 over at Pebble Beach this afternoon. He says mojitos are fabulous.
Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2018 08:33 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, deplorable cultist at June 19, 2018 08:32 PM (wA0yZ)
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I didn't think it was re-election year for him.
Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 19, 2018 08:33 PM (vDapD)
written over 2 years ago and forged her name and likeness and got it
notarized. It's very bizarre and was hidden by everybody.
You can't change a date on a notary page without having initials made to the dates changed from print to ink.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 08:31 PM
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While it might vary State by State, any changes made to a document signed and witnessed by a Notary must be initialed and dated by both the person signing and the Notary.
I found this out when we lived in Kentucky and I put the wrong date on a document when we were in the house buying process.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2018 08:34 PM (+Dllb)
Someone with that guy's resume would be very expensive to hire, even by BosNYWash standards of expense.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 08:34 PM (0QYMt)
What do y'all think about Shelia Jackson Lee's implication that RR is gonna be kickin' rocks on Friday?
Is this ol' dumdum just running off at the mouth? Or did she accidentally spill some uncut dope?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:34 PM (UiRxW)
Posted by: canned hate at June 19, 2018 08:35 PM (ItyGR)
Posted by: X-ray at June 19, 2018 08:35 PM (IoWN7)
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Yeah, the unit nickname is the "Fightin' Cousin Fuckers".
Posted by: andycanuck at June 19, 2018 08:35 PM (Evws/)
Fantastic dancing
I can't believe she's 71. She looks 40 at most.
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at June 19, 2018 08:23 PM (hMwEB)
Surely they frown on that in professional baton twirling circles. I mean, older people have enough trouble with dizziness.
Oh, dancing.....never mind.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 19, 2018 08:35 PM (9BLnV)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench)
Have you seen Peaches?
Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 08:36 PM (3/uST)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 19, 2018 08:36 PM (r+sAi)
Who is 'RR'?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 08:36 PM (0QYMt)
Posted by: X-ray at June 19, 2018 08:35 PM (IoWN7)
It's so flat you can watch your dog run away for three days.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 19, 2018 08:36 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 19, 2018 08:36 PM (7028f)
Posted by: Steve Earle Song Ideas at June 19, 2018 08:36 PM (PvCxa)
If you read the statement he put out today it would appear that he has been working for Strzok for some time. He wasn't just hired last Friday.
McCabe's lawyer raised $500k in his gofundme scam. I bet he's already torched through most of it. And there is a long way to go.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 08:37 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, deplorable cultist at June 19, 2018 08:32 PM (wA0yZ)
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I didn't think it was re-election year for him."
A. Graham just watched Sanford crash and burn down in South Carolina.
B. He's distanced himself from McCain for some time since this horrific FBI/DOJ scandal started to unfold.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 19, 2018 08:37 PM (dEJuU)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 19, 2018 08:37 PM (myjNJ)
Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 08:14 PM (n13/j)
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GlobalSecurity,org says they have something called an M-7, similar to the Soviet SS-21.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:18 PM (UiRxW)
I
was just making a lame joke about the media in general, not disputing
what you said. I will look into it now since you brought it up. Thanks.
Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 08:24 PM (n13/j)
first of all, my joke was they would not know a ballistic missile from bowel movement. I normally don't explain jokes but will here lol.
I checked up on the Yemen situation, one of many areas I have ignored for sure other than knowing the place is a S- hole. No doubt the Houthi have ballistic missiles and Iran is giving them the ordnance. Seems like someone needs arc light or JDAM attention.
Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 08:38 PM (n13/j)
Any other suggestions?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, deplorable cultist at June 19, 2018 08:38 PM (LUV9/)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 08:36 PM (0QYMt)
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Rod Rosenstein. She seemed to imply that he'd be let go if he continued refusing to comply with Congressional subpoenas.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:38 PM (UiRxW)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 19, 2018 08:38 PM (Evws/)
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Yeah, the unit nickname is the "Fightin' Cousin Fuckers".
Posted by: andycanuck at June 19, 2018 08:35 PM (Evws/)
So, that's what Shia Leboeuf has been up to lately. And here I thought he was into guys!
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 19, 2018 08:39 PM (9BLnV)
Who is 'RR'?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 08:36 PM (0QYMt)
Rickey Ricardo. He's got some 'splainin to do
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 19, 2018 08:39 PM (SiINZ)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 19, 2018 08:36 PM (4ErVI)
Why are the dogs in North Dakota so fast? Because the trees are so far apart.
Posted by: X-ray at June 19, 2018 08:39 PM (IoWN7)
Any other suggestions?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, deplorable cultist at June 19, 2018 08:38 PM (LUV9/)
The Rump Raiders?
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 19, 2018 08:39 PM (9BLnV)
Nobody ever got rich betting on Shelia Jackson Lee's insight into anything.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 08:40 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 19, 2018 08:40 PM (89T5c)
Just the intellectual level one has come to expect from top guvamint talent, incl. his successor Brennan.
The ignorance of most "educated" people, and almost all "educated" libs, is of course old news, but rarely does it showboat like this.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 08:40 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 08:38 PM
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If you Arc Light Yemen, the Country would cease to exist. That is not a bad thing though.........
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2018 08:40 PM (+Dllb)
That's why Trump is going to have to declassify en masse and let Congress publish. FBI/DoJ have proven themselves untrustworthy and/or criminal. If the FBI/DoJ abuses the tools We The People have lent them, then the tools must be taken away. And for the period the tools are removed, it will be the FBI/DoJ's fault for anything bad that happens because they forced us remove the tools to preserve liberty.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 19, 2018 08:40 PM (H8S+R)
written over 2 years ago and forged her name and likeness and got it
notarized. It's very bizarre and was hidden by everybody.
You can't change a date on a notary page without having initials made to the dates changed from print to ink.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 08:31 PM
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While it might vary State by State, any changes made to a document signed and witnessed by a Notary must be initialed and dated by both the person signing and the Notary.
I found this out when we lived in Kentucky and I put the wrong date on a document when we were in the house buying process.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2018 08:34 PM (+Dllb)
That is ALWAYS how I've done it too.
This is so shady concidering the circumstances.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 19, 2018 08:41 PM (NLQj5)
Posted by: f'd at June 19, 2018 08:41 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Braenyard at June 19, 2018 08:41 PM (3/uST)
while they're lightening my wallet...
"USAA paid for my car..after the wreck!!!! They asked me if I was okay!!!!"
So the (fake pro-military ) insurance company that you pay to compensate for damages to your wrecked car, paid for your wrecked car???
God Bless America!!
Posted by: canned hate at June 19, 2018 08:41 PM (ItyGR)
Any other suggestions?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, deplorable cultist at June 19, 2018 08:38 PM (LUV9/)
Masker raiders? Keep this spelling, since BO can only do phonetics anyway.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at June 19, 2018 08:41 PM (eASYU)
Any other suggestions?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, deplorable cultist at June 19, 2018 08:38 PM (LUV9/)
Commie Fags
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 19, 2018 08:42 PM (SiINZ)
Who is 'RR'?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector
General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 08:36 PM
(0QYMt)
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Rod Rosenstein. She seemed to imply that he'd be let go if he continued refusing to comply with Congressional subpoenas.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:38 PM (UiRxW)
Thanks! Of course I missed the obvious because I was caught up thinking "Ronald Reagan and Roy Rogers are dead, they can't be fired."
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 19, 2018 08:42 PM (0QYMt)
Almost.
Of course, there's no question I would if at least one redaction in the whole mess said: "President 'Cock-Curious'".
Posted by: Sharkman at June 19, 2018 08:42 PM (BfOXk)
Posted by: President Brick Shot at June 19, 2018 08:30 PM (QLvwG
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If a tree falls in the woods and the MSM ignores it... well...
Posted by: redridinghood at June 19, 2018 08:42 PM (PvFoN)
The BLM Left: Law enforcement officials at the lowest levels are corrupt and only prosecute the powerless citizens
Bitter Clinger: You are both correct. Protect your 2nd Amendment Rights.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 19, 2018 08:42 PM (UOcKN)
Posted by: Under Fire at June 19, 2018 08:42 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 19, 2018 08:40 PM (/tuJf)
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Yeah, haha. Maxine Waters' Hair might be a better source for reliable analysis.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 19, 2018 08:42 PM (UiRxW)
Any other suggestions?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, deplorable cultist at June 19, 2018 08:38 PM (LUV9/)
The Fightin' Jihadis?
Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2018 08:43 PM (sdi6R)
@ChadPergram:
Rare fireworks at the Capitol amid Trump's mtg w/Hse GOPers. A Congressional intern shouted "F%*k you" at Trump in Rotunda. Congressional Hispanic Caucus mbrs heckled Trump to his face outside mtg. Verbal confrontation between GOP FL Rep Curbelo/Dem CA Rep Vargas over immigration.
Posted by: IrishEi at June 19, 2018 08:43 PM (HiDrR)
Posted by: canned hate
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Any Dem will do. If it's a Dem academic or politician, then Perfecta.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, deplorable cultist at June 19, 2018 08:43 PM (Ip71V)
Posted by: Eric Holder at June 19, 2018 08:44 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 19, 2018 08:46 PM (89T5c)
Inevitable when we have weak Congressional leadership.
Posted by: Eric Holder at June 19, 2018 08:46 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 19, 2018 08:39 PM (SiINZ)
Lucy canned his ass because of his drinking and whore chasing.
Mr.Babalu!.......
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 19, 2018 08:46 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, deplorable cultist at June 19, 2018 08:38 PM (LUV9/)
The Cuckaneers?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 19, 2018 08:47 PM (UOcKN)
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This is a problem.
Congratulations on being slightly brown. You don't represent people who are also slightly brown and still not Americans.
Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 19, 2018 08:47 PM (vDapD)
Posted by: Eric Holder at June 19, 2018 08:44 PM (r9UYA)
No where near as hot as your future accommodations.
Posted by: The Devil at June 19, 2018 08:47 PM (IoWN7)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 19, 2018 08:47 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: canned hate at June 19, 2018 08:47 PM (ItyGR)
But how things could go that far without a president intervening, I cannot comprehend. He did, sort of, a month ago, but obviously that lesson didn't take.
The benign explanations for RR's behavior do not track with the way things usually work between the Hill and agencies, or with some of RR's public comments ("extorted"), or his last-minute rush to mommy (Ryan) to avoid responding to the HPSCI on FISA-related stuff. But to me it remains a mystery.
Wray is no mystery. He has not the slightest idea what he should be doing. "Tone deaf" doesn't begin to describe him. Worst appointment by Trump so far, hands down.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 19, 2018 08:47 PM (QDnY+)
And this is coming from a guy who's high school mascot was a beaver.
Posted by: f'd at June 19, 2018 08:47 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 19, 2018 08:46 PM
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I predicted the other day that someone in the press pool is going to snap and attempt to commit some violent act on Sarah Sanders.
I am officially upping the ante and predicting that some random dem will attempt violence on Trump within a year.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 19, 2018 08:48 PM (+Dllb)
supposes that the team will abandon the name 'The Raiders'. I would
suggest, 'The Grifters'.
The Billable Hours or The Fighting None Essential Personell!
Posted by: Quint at June 19, 2018 08:49 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 19, 2018 08:19 PM (vDapD)
Obama's name has been dropped a number of times in context of being fully briefed in the cabal's communications.
This is the real insurance policy - Obama is the ring leader. Go figure. A plot to overthrow the electoral system that bridges several departments and the ringleader is the guy in charge of those several departments. All "by the book" to the credulous.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 19, 2018 08:49 PM (1g7ch)
This is how you get more Trump.
Posted by: X-ray at June 19, 2018 08:49 PM (IoWN7)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 19, 2018 08:46 PM (89T5c)
If the Dems do take the House in Nov., it will escalate even biglier.
Posted by: rickl at June 19, 2018 08:52 PM (sdi6R)
What? No "Watson and Crick High?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 08:54 PM (YqDXo)
Or "The Defendants."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 19, 2018 08:54 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: skeezix at June 19, 2018 08:55 PM (TzscB)
Effectively ended the investigation of the Geto Boys and their bespoke record label for trafficking large quantities of cocaine in Houston, by alleging systematic racism on behalf of the DEA field office and it's legendary drug investigator, Jack Schumacher, who had hounded the group since the late '80s.
Geto Boys subsequently released the album "The Foundation," with the lyric in the song "Yes Yes Y'all:"
"We sent he whole world a fuck-you note /
Shumacher's got a desk job/
Fuck you, hoes."
Maxine subsequently got hit with an ethics investigation (nothing happened, of course) by the House Committee on Government Reform. It's spokesman at the time was Sean Spicer.
Just a fun bit of corruption history I thought of, because I happen to be a GB fan, and I hate Maxine.
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