Amazing

Eric Felten at the mostly but not entirely cucked-out Weekly Standard.

Agent 1 was one of the key players in the investigation--one of just four "case agents" on the probe--and he not only expressed his political support for Clinton, he advocated against subjecting Hillary to an FBI interview....

Just in case his girlfriend didn’t savvy the full extent of his disgruntlement at the prospect of interviewing Hillary Clinton, Agent 1 added "My god ...I'm actually starting to have embarrassment sprinkled on my disappointment. ....Ever been forced to do something you adamantly opposed."

Asked by the IG about these comments, Agent 1 insisted he hadn’t meant his message: "I don't want to make it sound like there was no reason to interview her." As for explaining his "adamantly oppose"” comments, Agent 1's memory seemed to give out.

There are reasons to think that Agent 1 was dissatisfied because the organization was phoning in a politically determined investigation. But there are also reasons to think his unhappiness flowed from an admiration for Hillary. Take his message to Agent 5 after completing the questioning of Clinton: "done interviewing the President."

And then there’s this heartfelt string of missives from Agent 1 to Agent 5 on November 8, 2016--election day: "You should know; ...that I'm ...with her.” (The IG helpfully adds in a footnote that "I'm with her" was one of the Clinton campaign slogans.”)

Here are some of the highlights of Agent 1's comments about his work on the “Midyear” investigation as the Clinton case was code-named:

">.. the most meaningless thing I've ever done with people acting like f---ing 9/11.”

"… I dont care about it. I think its continued waste of resources and time and focus..."

"Its just so obvious how pointless this exercise is ..."

Put on the spot by the IG, Agent 1 explained his indiscreet comments as just being the nature of using instant messaging. He succumbed to a "water cooler" style of "jocularity" because he thought IMs "were not retained by the FBI and therefore used less caution with those communications than he would have with other types of communications."

...

Agent 5 sent an instant message to Agent 1 on February 9, 2016, griping about the Midyear work she was being given to do. Agent 1 messaged back to commiserate: "Yeah, I hear you. You guys have a shitty task, in a shitty environment," he wrote. "To look for something conjured in a place where you cant find it, for a case that doesnt matter and is predestined." It's bad enough that a lead agent on the Clinton case was convinced the outcome was "predestined," but there’s more in Agent 1's description of the culture they were operating in: "DOJ comes in there every once in awhile and takes a wishy-washy, political, cowardice stance. Salt meets wound. That is the environment love. Can't sugar coat it.” At least he followed by telling his girlfriend to “do the best you can."

That sounds like a frank and honest description of a politically skewed shop. But when asked about that message, Agent 1 had another message altogether for the IG: "I have no information that [the Clinton investigation] was a pre-determined outcome by anyone." No, of course not.

And don't forget Agent 1 and Agent 5's other work:



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1 sT

Posted by: Heywood Jablowme at June 15, 2018 12:32 PM (jsWA8)

2 ND

Posted by: Heywood Jablowme at June 15, 2018 12:33 PM (jsWA8)

3 Indeed

Posted by: steevy at June 15, 2018 12:33 PM (LiyEm)

4 I'll get the others

Posted by: Heywood Jablowme at June 15, 2018 12:33 PM (jsWA8)

5 And they eventually got married - should be easy to ID them, no?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2018 12:34 PM (W+vEI)

6 Burn it all down and start over.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2018 12:34 PM (FWsqf)

7 I have by no means finished reading this report, and might (big might) get there by the end of the weekend. That said, so far it looks like the summary and recommendations don't track with the report's contents. Almost like they want to give a shortcut to the "right answer" to the press or somesuch regardless of what the meat-and-potatoes report actually reveals.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2018 12:35 PM (I2dne)

8 I hate Rod Rosenstein, and have gone back to the opinion that Horowitz is an obanunist fuck

Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 12:35 PM (hDLaM)

9 Read the content. Rookie mistake.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at June 15, 2018 12:35 PM (Vzqe+)

10 Agent 86 is confused. Agent 99 is hot.

Posted by: Carpe Manana at June 15, 2018 12:35 PM (PbH71)

11 You're welcome! *sashays off to golf course*

Posted by: Emperor Choom Boy at June 15, 2018 12:35 PM (ptqGC)

12 You believe him....right?

Posted by: BignJames at June 15, 2018 12:35 PM (0+nbW)

13 Are they still employed by the FBI?
Demoted?
Any adverse effects from being tools?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2018 12:36 PM (W+vEI)

14 Horowitz is the real life Officer Barbrady from South Park.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 15, 2018 12:36 PM (TkWCo)

15 I think the vile, disgusting things said about "POS" Trump supporters by an unidentified agent need to be shown 24/7 in ads leading up to the mid terms.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 15, 2018 12:37 PM (ptqGC)

16 I have read many IG reports, contributed to one, etc etc - I have never seen one where the summary/findings did not track with the content.


For obvious reasons. WTF is the point of a summary that contradicts the body?


Guess we'll soon see, when Horowitz goes to the Hill.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 15, 2018 12:37 PM (QDnY+)

17 Tar
Feathers
Rail

Some assembly required.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 12:37 PM (Ncyf9)

18 This report is much more useful and helpful than you'd think if you just read the comments yesterday.

You've got to remember - this is all Political. Everything is Political. Now indictments and charges could be useful because they make the Political case easier to make, but if you can win the Political matters in other ways, then so what.

All of this only matters insofar as it affects the midterm elections this November. If they result in a big win for Trump allies, then all good things flow from that. If they result in a big loss, then all may be lost.

All the rest is just fru-fru window dressing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2018 12:37 PM (k1TUh)

19 Abolish the FBI.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 15, 2018 12:37 PM (EoRCO)

20 Snoozy McSnoozersen was their insurance policy. And it is paying off handsomely.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 15, 2018 12:38 PM (r9UYA)

21 I am not sure what to think anymore.

Clearly this report documents that - among other things - Hillary Clinton lied to the FBI, and the FBI knew it, and let it slide. (at a minimum - seems that they were cheering her for her dishonesty, because, whew, now they don't have to pursue it.)

So, if Huber/Steiner will come, and he is not bringing an indictment for "lying to the FBI" for one private citizen Hillary Clinton, then this is all just a farce. All of it.

But the fact is, this report tells us that Hillary is a big ol' lying liar. That is not being covered up. So, maybe, just maybe, its on the level, despite all the spin that the press/Left is applying.

Posted by: blaster at June 15, 2018 12:38 PM (jHrzU)

22 No politics here, just jocularity.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2018 12:38 PM (IqV8l)

23 I can see by the record that I said, we should unite the entire force of the FBI to stop Trump's campaign, but I can't recall saying that. And I'm not sure what I would have meant by that.

Posted by: Agent 0 at June 15, 2018 12:38 PM (vDqXW)

24 The FBI under Wray doesn't need training in anti-bias. It needs training in understanding what taking an oath means and that the oath is taken to protect the Constitution of the United States, not a political party or any particular candidate.


This is all so fucked up that I have nothing but contempt for everyone in the FBI. They are all tainted. Every last one.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2018 12:38 PM (FWsqf)

25 6 Burn it all down and start over.


Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2018 12:34 PM (FWsqf)

yeah, I don't think we need the second half of that sentence...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 15, 2018 12:39 PM (8D42x)

26 Thought experiment: imagine if we had records of the officers in Ferguson talking to each other how much they hated black people, about how stupid and lazy they all were and how they're all criminals anyway.

What do you think the media response would be?

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 15, 2018 12:39 PM (mk7Bj)

27 Move FBI HQ to Detroit.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 15, 2018 12:39 PM (dKiJG)

28 Our Betters don't seem ... better.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 15, 2018 12:39 PM (zfrbv)

29 I'll admit that I don't think it was a predetermined outcome. But they sure as hell were hoping that they had enough wiggle room to do everything they could to make it so.

Posted by: buzzion at June 15, 2018 12:39 PM (lKs2v)

30 ace, if you didn't see Wray's press event yesterday, watch it.


Outrageous. Wray, for one, clearly is happy to seize on (!) the ridiculous IG findings, to effectively sweep this galactic scandal under the rug.


And Trump appears to be a fan of Wray. Inexplicable.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 15, 2018 12:39 PM (QDnY+)

31 Sorry, but by now I won't be satisfied with slammer time. I want executions.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 15, 2018 12:39 PM (o2MD2)

32 Perhaps we should be taking a good hard look at who it is who is training these FBI Agents, hmmm?

We already know where they recruit, but what about Langley's Training Force?

Seems to me that they are likely to be every bit as biased as any other institution.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 12:39 PM (Ncyf9)

33 But according to Wet Fart Part Deux - IG Boogaloo, it would take a smoking gun memorandum that said words to the effect, "I'd love to be able to conduct an impartial investigation but I can't, because biases."


It's fucking ridiculous.


I can't wait for Wet Fart Menage-a-Trois - FISA Fandango.

This is all a multi-act production of The Aristocrats.

And the profoundly silly people who continue to pontificate look sillier and sillier.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 15, 2018 12:39 PM (UfMVm)

34 There are enough dots on the page to see the cat, if you only look. But Horowitz didn't connect the dots to draw the cat.

But there's a cat. Plain to see

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 15, 2018 12:40 PM (n+6mJ)

35 Trump cutting Cohen loose. Popcorn futures looking up!

Posted by: Elmer at June 15, 2018 12:40 PM (i7nwV)

36 They make Jethro Bodine look good.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2018 12:40 PM (IqV8l)

37 But the fact is, this report tells us that Hillary is a big ol' lying liar. That is not being covered up. So, maybe, just maybe, its on the level, despite all the spin that the press/Left is applying.
Posted by: blaster


No reasonable prosecutor.....

No standing....

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2018 12:40 PM (PWDHh)

38 So what should we do?!?!?

Posted by: Frantic couple in the luncheonette booth with ... The Devil ... at June 15, 2018 12:41 PM (AoK0a)

39 Rush is lamenting again....I'm sick of it...how about some action?

This people obviously hate us...want us in jail, or dead.

So what are we going to do about it? What are we waiting for?

Trump? He stayed silent last night, and should have been planning on UNLEASHING HELL on these crooks this morning.

But no, he is unable to make a move for fear of
he and his family being railroaded.

So it is up to the people, whether we like it or not.

Posted by: Pam at June 15, 2018 12:41 PM (qRq6C)

40 FBI Employee: how did the [witness] go

Agent: Awesome. Lied his ass off.

Another mid term election commercial script repeat for 30 seconds

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 15, 2018 12:42 PM (JFO2v)

41 In 1979 the Army held a Council of Colonels. their job was to essentially Fix the Army. VietNam was over, the ranks were overly populated with druggies, losers, draftees (some of whom became great soldiers but many were just biding their time) and there was a general malaise as the military shifted back to Europe and the Soviets.
This is what is needed in probably every Agency and Department of the Federal government. A complete top down/bottom up review, shakeup, and revamping.
The bureaucracy is going to kill us all.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2018 12:42 PM (0tfLf)

42 Not a lawyer, but I read a few on the interwebs.

I'm thinking -- barring the exposure of anyone working with foreign powers -- that "treason" is not the right term.

Sedition? That's still a thing, right? I think Seditious Conspiracy would be the correct charge. Again, I'm not a lawyer, and perhaps I'll drop a line to Prof Volokh to ask. Years ago he responded to an honest question about treason that was in the news/on the blogs.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 15, 2018 12:42 PM (zHjIL)

43 16 I have read many IG reports, contributed to one, etc etc - I have never seen one where the summary/findings did not track with the content.

For obvious reasons. WTF is the point of a summary that contradicts the body?

Guess we'll soon see, when Horowitz goes to the Hill."

For one thing, it gives Horowitz a great role to play, if his questioners are smart. He can say there was no bias, then when questioned on specifics, say, well yeah, that does look like bias, and yeah that other thing looks like bias, and Okay guys I was just trying to be nice to everyone and apolitical and say there was no bias.

And he comes off as they guy who made a mistake in his summary because he was trying to be too non-political.

Personally, I think the report is intentionally written in such as way as to almost force that as a final conclusion.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2018 12:42 PM (k1TUh)

44 Move FBI HQ to Detroit.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 15, 2018 12:39 PM (dKiJG)

Baltimore would be more convenient and give them more to investigate.

Posted by: Surfperch at June 15, 2018 12:42 PM (4C0+v)

45 This OIG report is going to fester.

Posted by: RI Red at June 15, 2018 12:42 PM (I1V3o)

46 All this basically to cover Prince Barry's ass - What will be the endgame here?

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at June 15, 2018 12:42 PM (TvRUZ)

47 I remember when Trump nominated Wray, Joe DiGenova said he was a straight shooter.

I think is now an Iron Law: if Joe D or Kevin McCarthy vouches for someone as a straight shooter/standup guy, that person is outrageously corrupt and unfit for any public position, ever.

Posted by: blaster at June 15, 2018 12:42 PM (jHrzU)

48 Where is Agent 99?

Posted by: wth at June 15, 2018 12:42 PM (HgMAr)

49 >>And the profoundly silly people who continue to pontificate look sillier and sillier.

Trust the plan.

Posted by: Q at June 15, 2018 12:42 PM (r9UYA)

50 Move FBI HQ to Detroit.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 15, 2018 12:39 PM (dKiJG)
+++++++++
Detroit was finally able to declare bankruptcy, slough off some of their accumulated travails and is finally poised to move forward again if they put the work in. Give the poor bastards a chance. Putting the FBI there would just torpedo them.

We should just go occupy some borderline uninhabitable G-d-forsaken Pacific atoll and move the government there.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2018 12:43 PM (I2dne)

51 22
No politics here, just jocularity.



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 15, 2018 12:38 PM (IqV8l)

I'm not laughing.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 15, 2018 12:43 PM (jxbfJ)

52 Trump? He stayed silent last night, and should have been planning on UNLEASHING HELL on these crooks this morning.


Maybe he's talking to people and figuring out what he should do?

What should the people do, do you think, Pam?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 15, 2018 12:43 PM (0/+vJ)

53 And enough of the fairy tale that the "rank and file" at the FBI are just honest, hard workin' men an' wimmen what luvs themselves some 'murica. They're fascist trash through and through. Resist.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 15, 2018 12:43 PM (THkA0)

54 And what happened to Hymie the robot?

Posted by: wth at June 15, 2018 12:43 PM (HgMAr)

55 >>So it is up to the people, whether we like it or not.
Posted by: Pam




Uh, what exactly are you suggesting?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (W+vEI)

56 The words these people use, and for that matter the whole Trey Gowdy game of being a big FBI believer to "OMG this is an outrage" overnight is why people vote Trump.

He means what he says, he doesn't play word games. That's why they hate him, his style.

Posted by: James Comey at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (xOBRH)

57
Tar
Feathers
Rail

Some assembly required.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 12:37 PM (Ncyf9)





Gallows
then...
Gibbet

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (XWkhW)

58 The conclusion by the IG was ludicrous on its face. The standard he used was "it wasn't bias unless they looked me dead in the face and told me 'I did it for HER, and I'm proud of it!'"

Load of horse dung. Meanwhile, Manafort attempting to collect evidence and witnesses for his defense is now 'witness tampering'.

Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth. Bounce the rubble as needed.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (O9qtX)

59 The FBI under Wray doesn't need training in anti-bias. It needs training in understanding what taking an oath means and that the oath is taken to protect the Constitution of the United States, not a political party or any particular candidate.

Posted by: LGoPs



I hate to be the one to tell you but that 'training' doesn't exist.

It can't exist.

It's the Hewitt fallacy (newly coined, thankyouverymuch) ; There is no training, credential, or course that can make men angels. Any intimation otherwise is willful ignorance.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (zfrbv)

60 Tee-Hee-Hee

Even if I get caught doing my Friday Night Donkey Show at NYT HQ ain't nobody gonna do shit.

Posted by: Ali Watkins at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (rfqHO)

61 Manafort denied bail until trial.

Need to get the IG out of the headlines.

Right on que.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (q1VoB)

62 "Baltimore would be more convenient and give them more to investigate."

Fcuk that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (EyPfd)

63 re: Prof Volokh, years ago. Paraphrased from an e-mail 15-ish years ago that I haven't bothered to look for:

If someone does something that undermines a war effort, but their intention was not to aid the enemy, then it's not treason. An example: foreman of an ammo plant leads a strike because of unsafe work conditions, resulting in an ammo shortage and a lost battle or stalled campaign. Their intent was safe working conditions. The result was enemy victories. Not treason.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (zHjIL)

64 But the left will only listen to CNN and NYT and WaPo for information that will focus on those parts that make it sound like there is bains.

Posted by: IanDeal at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (5mrLG)

65 The real crime here is Lisa Page's face.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (Ncyf9)

66 Trump cutting Cohen loose. Popcorn futures looking up!
Posted by: Elmer

Don't be late for your weekly appointment.

Posted by: imaginary peeing hookers at June 15, 2018 12:45 PM (rDwsX)

67 Ignoramus, no. Horowitz emphatically, in detail, alleges there are no lines connecting the dots. Investigative decisions that were obviously merely part of a cover-up are rationalized as judgement calls.


I'd like to see a detailed take-down of the report by an experienced prosecutor and FBI field agent.


Horowitz specifically OKs many outrageous, obviously politically motivated investigative decisions.


This report signals, if anything, the rot is even worse than feared. Even the IG process is no longer that useful (yeah yeah lots of info collected - so what? Perhaps time to remove all judgement and evaluation content from IG activity, make them mere collectors of facts - this report is an outrage).


Posted by: rhomboid at June 15, 2018 12:45 PM (QDnY+)

68 Miss Lindsey now thinks there might be a deep state.

Posted by: BignJames at June 15, 2018 12:45 PM (0+nbW)

69 @39

Uhh, Rush is a radio commentator.

I know you are not talking about him.

The only people that can do anything about this are President Trump and Congress.

Trump doesn't have enough support internally and on the Hill to make a move to clean up our LE and IC apparatuses.

All he can do is what he has been doing is tap dancing on the edge of a razor blade while going through a tornado and hope he can stay upright.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 15, 2018 12:45 PM (UfMVm)

70 HOW DID THE FBI DO A YEAR OF INVESTIGATIONING YET WE ARE NO CLOSER TO THE LOCALIZATION OF THIS WEATHER MACHINE?!?!?

JUSTICE IS DEMANDING!!!

Posted by: Calypso Louie Farrakhan at June 15, 2018 12:46 PM (rfqHO)

71 So, now we will get a handful of cucks showing their investigative journalistic skills. Where have they been for the last two years? I guess their dicks were in someone else's pocket. I wonder if their masters decided to let their dicks out for a walk? Why do their masters want them to pursue this? Too much information let out how corrupt the whole process has been. Now they have to spin the narrative to make sure that Trump doesn't get off the hook, that only a few patsies will take the fall, and that no one gets too near to Hillary, the gay mulatto, or other swamp denizens.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 15, 2018 12:46 PM (9BLnV)

72 Can't wait to hear Dan Bongino's take on this.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2018 12:46 PM (EyPfd)

73 They should have used the cone of silence.

Posted by: wth at June 15, 2018 12:46 PM (HgMAr)

74 And enough of the fairy tale that the "rank and
file" at the FBI are just honest, hard workin' men an' wimmen what luvs
themselves some 'murica. They're fascist trash through and through.
Resist.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 15, 2018 12:43 PM (THkA0)


I know a couple of them who recently retired. They both voted for Hillary and the guy told me with a straight face that the only honest man in Washington D.C. was James Comey.

I don't want to have much to do with either of them.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2018 12:46 PM (FWsqf)

75 The Igno Daughter saw Incredibles 2 last night and says it's better than the first

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 15, 2018 12:47 PM (n+6mJ)

76 And people wonder why we don't want to disarm...

Posted by: Editor at June 15, 2018 12:47 PM (gAZx+)

77 How do I get me one of them FIB jobs? Good pay, great benefits, retire at 55, a steenkin' badge, and totally free from rules or consequences! Woohoo

Posted by: Octopussy at June 15, 2018 12:47 PM (FoN7L)

78 WHAT!!!!


Your with her?!!!!


Not Us!!!



#####nobiashere

Posted by: Ohio Retards at June 15, 2018 12:47 PM (ymnmz)

79 >>And people wonder why we don't want to disarm...


STOP IT!

Posted by: Michele Fields at June 15, 2018 12:47 PM (Ncyf9)

80 >>>68 Miss Lindsey now thinks there might be a balls deep state and it's his favorite.
Posted by: BignJames at June 15, 2018 12:45 PM (0+nbW)
______
FIFY

Posted by: Miss Lindsey Graham at June 15, 2018 12:48 PM (rfqHO)

81 65 The real crime here is Lisa Page's face.
Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (Ncyf9)


True dat. What a homely nag. Ugly as hammered sin.
She could export ugly and still have a surplus.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 15, 2018 12:48 PM (o2MD2)

82 Trump? He stayed silent last night, and should have been planning on UNLEASHING HELL on these crooks this morning.


I'm not worried. Trump plays 3 dimensional chess while these idiots and the media are playing checkers...badly.
You can bet PDT's team is going over this with a fine toothed comb and the poopoo will start hitting the air displacement system next week.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2018 12:48 PM (0tfLf)

83 The real crime here is Lisa Page's face.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (Ncyf9)
............

An upper lip might help.

Posted by: wth at June 15, 2018 12:49 PM (HgMAr)

84 >>t's the Hewitt fallacy (newly coined, thankyouverymuch) ; There is no training, credential, or course that can make men angels. Any intimation otherwise is willful ignorance.



Yup.

You don't train your organization out of widespread corruption anymore than you train cancer to not destroy your body.

You fire the corrupt one. Period.
A lot of them are already gone - Comey, McCabe, Page - and the others, such as Strzok and Preistap, may well be busy assisting other OIG efforts.

Wray needs to focus on clearing out the rest.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2018 12:49 PM (W+vEI)

85 Deep state...the 'deep' is a whole lot deeper then these tidbits we are seeing. It is complete and total corruption masked behind the veneer of a two party system of honest and constitutional government.

Posted by: Tentotwo at June 15, 2018 12:49 PM (yhf6w)

86 This is kind of a tough area. I mean, its not illegal or necessarily even wrong for a cop to be sympathetic toward or like a suspect. The problems come when they start to bend the rules or kill the case just to protect that person. And while there's no clear proof of that, it does look a lot like they were at least leaning in that direction.

The Igno Daughter saw Incredibles 2 last night and says it's better than the first

Yeah I'm gonna withhold judgment on the film, I think people are reading a lot into it that isn't there because we're so hyper political these days.

The first was SO good its hard to imagine the sequel being that great but we'll see.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 12:49 PM (39g3+)

87 Miss Lindsey now thinks there might be a deep state.
Posted by: BignJames at June 15, 2018 12:45 PM (0+nbW)

Translation: Miss Lindsey now wants your vote for the 2020 Senate Primary.

Posted by: Surfperch at June 15, 2018 12:49 PM (4C0+v)

88 >>True dat. What a homely nag. Ugly as hammered sin.
She could export ugly and still have a surplus.


If I was Chelsea Clinton, I'd hire that chick to stand next to me whenever I was out of bed.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 12:49 PM (Ncyf9)

89 Anybody who believes the "justice" system isn't corrupt and biased against Republicans and the larger part of America may want wake the fuck up or hang themselves. Because at some point these are the people coming for you.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 15, 2018 12:50 PM (8Ku6c)

90 >>77
How do I get me one of them FIB jobs? Good pay, great benefits, retire
at 55, a steenkin' badge, and totally free from rules or consequences!
Woohoo

Posted by: Octopussy

and you get to tool around all day in a brand new SUV with a cop motor in it.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 15, 2018 12:50 PM (r9UYA)

91 People like these agents wear their political bias's on their sleeve.

Whoever assigned them to this case and approved their assignment is just as guilty. They were assigned to protect Clinton from the beginning.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at June 15, 2018 12:50 PM (rfqHO)

92 Not a speck of bias here

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 15, 2018 12:50 PM (7ZVPa)

93 77 How do I get me one of them FIB jobs? Good pay, great benefits, retire at 55, a steenkin' badge, and totally free from rules or consequences! Woohoo

Posted by: Octopussy at June 15, 2018 12:47 PM



Just don't go dancing with a gun in your pocket.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 15, 2018 12:50 PM (0tfLf)

94

I still don't see any bias.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 15, 2018 12:51 PM (fceHP)

95 Ain't noone gonna do shit.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 15, 2018 12:51 PM (L0ikr)

96 I met Eric Felten once, years ago, at an industrial history conclave in Philly. He's an ace dude. Jazz musician and an expert on cocktails. He used to have a regular alcohol column in Wall Street, "How's Your Drink."

I don't think he is a "cuck."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 15, 2018 12:51 PM (H5rtT)

97

And people wonder why we don't want to disarm...



We're way past "not wanting." to disarm.

We're at "will not" disarm now.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 15, 2018 12:51 PM (HaL55)

98 Rush is echoing what I've been saying.

It wasn't like these fucks were going to memorandize their fucking obvious biases in an official document.

See this is how these fucks get you and let off others.

When they want to get you, they take all of the circumstantial evidence and say that the preponderance of the evidence and say, even though there is no smoking gun, we conclude there is enough circumstantial evidence to infer intent.

When they want to let you off the hook, they start scratching their navels and begin beating the statutes and case history to see if they can divine the meaning of grossly negligent from 1908 case law, even though grossly negligent and infer intent when intent is not necessary to meet the standards of prosecution.


This is all bullshit.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 15, 2018 12:51 PM (UfMVm)

99 "Deep State" lends some kind of imprimatur to these people. We may want to begin calling them the "Subversive State."

Posted by: Marcus T at June 15, 2018 12:51 PM (8Ku6c)

100 I have no information that [the Clinton investigation] was a pre-determined outcome by anyone.

Probably an honest answer, the agent could not specifically point to any official or published absolute proof of the predetermination of the case. Just know it from a sense of how the case was being handled and who was in charge.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 12:52 PM (39g3+)

101 All of this only matters insofar as it affects the midterm elections this November.

I respectfully, and completely disagree with that statement. What matters is that the highest LEA in the Country actively worked to influence an election, and worked with the then current administration and the MSM in doing so. Then, after the election, those same entities are continuing to undermine the duly elected president and his administration.

The tone deaf response and outright display of arrogance from Wray yesterday tells everything needed to know about what these asshats think their priorities are and what they think about anyone who not of the tribe.

Fuck them. Disband the FBI and shitcan everyone.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 15, 2018 12:52 PM (i0ykY)

102 >>I still don't see any bias.


You need to take the Tubes out and bring them down to the Hardware store, first.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 12:52 PM (Ncyf9)

103 Tom, sorry, an IG has no business playing 1,342-dimensional chess. Especially in this case.


The facts are incredibly damning (of course, we knew they'd be, the "investigation" was a farce, as even a layman could see by comparing known violations to investigative steps and outcomes).


The Hill certainly needs to rip the normative parts of the report to shreds. It would be nice if some of the congresscritters would have experienced FBI field agents and prosecutors deconstruct the key ridiculous findings, and lay out what are normal procedures that were not followed, to have Horowitz react.


This report, and Wray's attitude, are a package. Wray isn't stupid. He's clearly determined to use the ridiculous IG report findings to avoid doing his job, to avoid undertaking the stables-cleaning that is so obviously needed.


Nobody should even begin to think they understand the IG report until they view Wray's presser yesterday.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 15, 2018 12:52 PM (QDnY+)

104 When PDT says one of his controversial employees is doing a good job in a public forum, it's the kiss of death.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 15, 2018 12:52 PM (r9UYA)

105 The FBI under Wray doesn't need training in
anti-bias. It needs training in understanding what taking an oath means
and that the oath is taken to protect the Constitution of the United
States, not a political party or any particular candidate.



Posted by: LGoPs





I hate to be the one to tell you but that 'training' doesn't exist.



It can't exist.



It's the Hewitt fallacy (newly coined, thankyouverymuch) ; There is
no training, credential, or course that can make men angels. Any
intimation otherwise is willful ignorance.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (zfrbv)


You're right. I was being half sarcastic because those values about the oath should be inherent in your character. And if it's not, you don't belong in the job and no amount of training will avail you. Essentially it's a flaw (potentially fatal IMO) in our culture and education system where notions of honor and living up to your promises and oaths and responsibilities is sooner laughed at today than lived by.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2018 12:53 PM (FWsqf)

106 Trump? He stayed silent last night, and should have been planning on UNLEASHING HELL on these crooks this morning.

But no, he is unable to make a move for fear of
he and his family being railroaded.

So it is up to the people, whether we like it or not.
Posted by: Pam at June 15, 2018 12:41 PM (qRq6C)

And what exactly is "unleashing hell"? Seriously, what is it you want Trump to do? Simultaneously fire Sessions, Rosenstein, Wray, whoever is #2,#3, #4 at the DOJ and the FBI? Then demand #5 whoever that is, empanel a grand jury, and get indictments so these people can all be arrested ( let's see, we want to do that within 12 hours of the release of the IG's report) or should we just dispense with the constitutional stuff and simply order the army to arrest these people, a la NK style?

This IG report is one report out of three that will be released. Notice it has some facts and some opinion in it. It's not a formal prosecutorial investigation, it's like an HR report in a Fortune 500 company. Only so much is actionable and without being able to actually subpoena and interview people who no longer work at the FBI or DOJ( Comey, Lynch, now McCabe, etc.) it has little outside legal teeth.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 15, 2018 12:53 PM (NLeU8)

107
I see no documentary evidence of bias in those texts.

Posted by: Deep State Horowitz at June 15, 2018 12:53 PM (r+sAi)

108 76 And people wonder why we don't want to disarm...
Posted by: Editor at June 15, 2018 12:47 PM (gAZx+)

When people are demanding you disarm, it's usually because they want to shoot you unopposed.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 12:53 PM (WDCYi)

109 Apparently wanting to be an FBI agent is like all the people who want a pit bull. They are the very last people you want to get what they want.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 15, 2018 12:53 PM (o2MD2)

110 "When I said I knew at least seven SA's besides me who would personally put a bullet in Trump's head to make sure that Hillary landed in the Oval Office, I was speaking metaphorically."

"It wouldn't have to be a head shot."

Posted by: Agent 5 at June 15, 2018 12:53 PM (onc1L)

111 They were assigned to protect Clinton from the beginning.

The sense I'm getting is less than that they were in on it, than that they were given a job to do that they knew was a joke, that they were going through the motions knowing it was all BS and theater, forced to pretend they were working on a case whose outcome had been written already.

So while they are Clinton supporters, I suspect they were frustrated by the futility and nonsense of even going through the motions. Hence, the bitter snark about the lying, they knew it was all theater.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 12:53 PM (39g3+)

112 98 Rush is echoing what I've been saying.

It wasn't like these fucks were going to memorandize their fucking obvious biases in an official document.

See this is how these fucks get you and let off others.

When they want to get you, they take all of the circumstantial evidence and say that the preponderance of the evidence and say, even though there is no smoking gun, we conclude there is enough circumstantial evidence to infer intent.

When they want to let you off the hook, they start scratching their navels and begin beating the statutes and case history to see if they can divine the meaning of grossly negligent from 1908 case law, even though grossly negligent and infer intent when intent is not necessary to meet the standards of prosecution.

This is all bullshit.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 15, 2018 12:51 PM (UfMVm)
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Bingo.

Posted by: WisRich at June 15, 2018 12:54 PM (G0vdT)

113 Calm down. Trey Gowdy will get to the bottom of this.

He's a former federal prosecutor, you know.

Posted by: Furious George at June 15, 2018 12:54 PM (9vQJW)

114 I am not advocating that we clone Trump to make him God Emperor for life. But it might be preferable to ever letting the Democrats ever have any power ever again

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at June 15, 2018 12:54 PM (q7VEO)

115 The words these people use, and for that matter the whole Trey Gowdy game of being a big FBI believer to "OMG this is an outrage" overnight is why people vote Trump.
------------------------------------------------------------------

I believe Gowdy already had a pretty good idea what was going to be in the IG report when he lavished praise on the FBI last week--just so he could pretend to be "shocked" when the actual report was released.
Why? I don't know. But I'm sure it was for a reason.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 15, 2018 12:54 PM (y8Foj)

116 Wray needs to focus on clearing out the rest.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2018 12:49 PM (W+vEI)


I don't know what that feckless twat is all about, but I really doubt it's to remove the bad eggs from the FBI basket. Hope I'm wrong, but....

Posted by: Anubus at June 15, 2018 12:54 PM (jjaLl)

117 It's about ends, by whatever means necessary.

Manafort, Flynn, and the other indictments are about things so trivial they'd been looked at in the past and shelved. Things that pale in comparison to Clinton charges.

Until they could be used to reach the end goal that the Machine now found desirable. These people will be crushed for whatever can be dug up or invented, as a means to that end, ultimately, of seizing power.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2018 12:54 PM (oVJmc)

118 That said, so far it looks like the summary and
recommendations don't track with the report's contents. Almost like they
want to give a shortcut to the "right answer" to the press or somesuch
regardless of what the meat-and-potatoes report actually reveals.Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2018 12:35 PM (I2dne)

It was written that way so that no one can be charged for any of the rest of the content in the report. The conclusions and summary are all a defense attorney needs to have a case thrown out or at least secure an acquittal.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 15, 2018 12:54 PM (UBzPO)

119 Instead of bias training they all should get dancing lessons.

Posted by: wth at June 15, 2018 12:54 PM (HgMAr)

120 Agent 86 is confused. Agent 99 is hot.

Agent 13 is in the grandfather clock.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2018 12:55 PM (oVJmc)

121 "Deep State" lends some kind of imprimatur to these people. We may want to begin calling them the "Subversive State."
Posted by: Marcus T at June 15, 2018 12:51 PM (8Ku6c)
++++++++
My brother has started to call them just "The Party" - the GOPe/Democrat/State/Media combine. It's all just "The Party." I kinda like it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2018 12:55 PM (I2dne)

122 113 Calm down. Trey Gowdy will get to the bottom of this.

He's a former federal prosecutor, you know.
Posted by: Furious George at June 15, 2018 12:54 PM (9vQJW)


Gowdy burned that bridge last week. No way back for him.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 15, 2018 12:55 PM (o2MD2)

123
Posted by: Jen the original at June 15, 2018 12:53 PM
Well, how about starting with the arrest of McCabe who has a criminal referral for months?
Would that be ok, not NK style?

Posted by: Deep State Horowitz at June 15, 2018 12:56 PM (r+sAi)

124 Under Fire -- I forgot about that. Even better!

Posted by: Octopussy at June 15, 2018 12:56 PM (FoN7L)

125 Well put, Kreplach.


And Tom, about the mid-terms being the only point: no, not even close.


You may recall an election, back in 2016? You might have heard of the DOJ, the AG, a special counsel, etc? How is that working out?


Of course elections are important. And of course the entire point of the corruption under discussion is that it *can negate the outcomes of elections* - or affect those outcomes themselves.


There's no tension between addressing the calamitous scandals at DOJ/FBI and winning the mid-terms. They are parallel endeavors. But the corruption aspect is, by far, the more enduring and perilous one.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 15, 2018 12:56 PM (QDnY+)

126 We're at "will not" disarm now.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 15, 2018 12:51 PM (HaL55)

We are at "arming up at an increasing rate" because anyone with a sense of history knows whats next.

They mean to hold on to power, no matter how much blood needs to be spilled to do it.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at June 15, 2018 12:56 PM (O9qtX)

127
stupid sock off.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 15, 2018 12:56 PM (r+sAi)

128 7 I have by no means finished reading this report, and might (big might) get there by the end of the weekend. That said, so far it looks like the summary and recommendations don't track with the report's contents. Almost like they want to give a shortcut to the "right answer" to the press or somesuch regardless of what the meat-and-potatoes report actually reveals.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2018 12:35 PM (I2dne)

I saw someone somewhere (maybe here too but somewhere else as well) that the summaries and recommendations weren't written by Horowitz but by the agencies.

Pretty interesting if true.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 15, 2018 12:56 PM (4ErVI)

129 I'm sorry, but didn't SCOTUS scuttle the cake case based on just this level of expression of bias?

And I'm supposed to let this slide?

Like hell.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at June 15, 2018 12:56 PM (AM1GF)

130 And Trump appears to be a fan of Wray. Inexplicable.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 15, 2018 12:39 PM (QDnY+)

Sundance has been backing Wray for a long time. And Sessions.There are two choices with the FBI: (1) scrap it and rebuild completely; (2) fix it.Item (1) would take *years*. So (2) is the only reasonable option. Sessions job is fixing things.The only opinion that matters is Trump's. His praising Wray is a signal that Wray is on the right side.

I did not even watch most of Wray's

Posted by: Off the reservation at June 15, 2018 12:56 PM (vWMNq)

131 simply order the army to arrest these people, a la NK style?
-----
I see your point. And now is probably not quite the time.

But yes, it will indeed come to that.

Or to submitting to the Party and the State and accepting their permanent rule. NK style.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 15, 2018 12:56 PM (AzW6q)

132 Whats truly disheartening is the level of people being hired by the FBI.
Raze the whole fuckin joint.


Posted by: dananjcon at June 15, 2018 12:56 PM (xqfqx)

133 Folks -- mistakes were made.

TIme to move on.

-- our betters

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 15, 2018 12:57 PM (4fVn8)

134 >>>110 "When I said I knew at least seven SA's besides me who would personally put a bullet in Trump's head to make sure that Hillary landed in the Oval Office, I was speaking metaphorically."

"It wouldn't have to be a head shot."
Posted by: Agent 5 at June 15, 2018 12:53 PM (onc1L)
________
I know right? It's like when I said I would literally have any kind of sex with anyone anywhere for any reason if they had dirt on Drumpf it was a like totally a metaphor for just blowing old dudes in the hallway.

Posted by: Ali Watkins at June 15, 2018 12:57 PM (rfqHO)

135

Apparently wanting to be an FBI agent is like all the people who want a pit bull. They are the very last people you want to get what they want.


You've never actually met a pit bull, have you?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 15, 2018 12:57 PM (HaL55)

136 I don't know what to do....except to help finance anyone who is actually fighting these bastards.




Posted by: Pam at June 15, 2018 12:57 PM (qRq6C)

137
Put on the spot by the IG, Agent 1 explained his indiscreet comments as just being the nature of using instant messaging. He succumbed to a "water cooler" style of "jocularity"


So what about the agent's instant messaging fits the definition of jocular? Because they sound bitter and angry to me.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 15, 2018 12:57 PM (10vO4)

138 >>Yeah I'm gonna withhold judgment on the film, I think people are reading a lot into it that isn't there because we're so hyper political these days.


The trailer gives off a certain vibe, if you know what I mean. It demonstrates anti-male/dad is an incompetent clown stereotypes that have been prevalent in media and advertising for years. If that is not the tone of the movie, I will be thrilled. Trailers can kill interest in a movie like that - the Soylo trailer from Disney was terrible as well.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2018 12:57 PM (W+vEI)

139 I presume the FBI's "retraining" will mostly take the form of reminding employees to be careful what they say and who they say it to. Wouldn't want the deplorables to know what we really think of them.

Posted by: rickl at June 15, 2018 12:57 PM (xjiRE)

140 When PDT says one of his controversial employees is doing a good job in a public forum, it's the kiss of death.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 15, 2018 12:52 PM (r9UYA)

People in the NY area who are Yankee fans remember this was how team owner George Steinbrenner operated. He would lavish praise on whoever was manager, saying they had his 'full confidence"---only to be fired days later.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 15, 2018 12:57 PM (y8Foj)

141 Posted by: Mark Matis at June 15, 2018 12:56 PM

PIG is a shorthand for all LEO or just everybody in the FBI?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 15, 2018 12:57 PM (0/+vJ)

142 130 ... presentation. ... Wray's presentation.

WTF are my fingers doing???

Posted by: Off the reservation at June 15, 2018 12:58 PM (vWMNq)

143 This IG report is one report out of three that will be released. Notice it has some facts and some opinion in it. It's not a formal prosecutorial investigation, it's like an HR report in a Fortune 500 company.

Only so much is actionable and without being able to actually subpoena and interview people who no longer work at the FBI or DOJ( Comey, Lynch, now McCabe, etc.) it has little outside legal teeth.
Posted by: Jen the original


So why waste 18 months & untold millions of dollars fapping?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 15, 2018 12:58 PM (Ol/Jg)

144 You've never actually met a pit bull, have you?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 15, 2018 12:57 PM (HaL55)


Yes, I have. Your point?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 15, 2018 12:58 PM (o2MD2)

145 Brian, correct. It's not certain that the IG material would guarantee dismissal or acquittal - but it looks like it would be damn useful to defense counsel in arguing, at the least, for "reasonable doubt" about intent to obstruct justice with this ridiculous farce of an "investigation" (the Clinton one).


Posted by: rhomboid at June 15, 2018 12:59 PM (QDnY+)

146 I am glad to know that, based on this latest exculpatory review:

1. FBI agents taking bribes is not a crime.
2. The president, SOS, and FBI director using personal email accounts to conduct business is not a crime.
3. The president and SOS sending and receiving classified documents over personal email is not a crime.
4. FBI agents changing the written documentation of their interviews is not a crime.
5. Perjury by FBI agents and the DOJ is not a crime.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 15, 2018 12:59 PM (7ZVPa)

147 The Law Enforcers are Lawless.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2018 12:59 PM (oVJmc)

148
Awesome. Lied his ass off.

Even if he said the truth ... aint noone gonna do shit


------

mother
fucker


~Paul Manafort


Posted by: fixerupper at June 15, 2018 12:59 PM (8XRCm)

149 130 His praising Wray is a signal that Wray is on the right side.

Posted by: Off the reservation at June 15, 2018 12:56 PM (vWMNq)


Or that Rosenstein and Wray have his balls in a vice and Mueller's got Don Jr.'s indictment hanging over his head.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 12:59 PM (WDCYi)

150
It was written that way so that no one can be charged for any of the rest of the content in the report. The conclusions and summary are all a defense attorney needs to have a case thrown out or at least secure an acquittal.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 15, 2018 12:54 PM (UBzPO)

Idk if an IG report would be admissible in court. But the FBI gave immunity to everyone, so who would even be charged? Hillary?! Please. No one will testify against her

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 15, 2018 01:00 PM (4fVn8)

151 So what about the agent's instant messaging fits the definition of jocular? Because they sound bitter and angry to me.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 15, 2018 12:57 PM (10vO4)
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He might have been identifying as jocular in that instance, bigot.

Posted by: Axeman at June 15, 2018 01:00 PM (vDqXW)

152 It demonstrates anti-male/dad is an incompetent clown stereotypes that have been prevalent in media and advertising for years.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2018 12:57 PM (W+vEI)

Incompetent? My dear boy, if you can disarm an exploding baby with teleportation powers, your definition of competence might be skewed.

That said, I am waiting for a conservative site I trust to review it. I didn't like the idea of an Incredibles 2 anyways.

Posted by: trev006 at June 15, 2018 01:00 PM (X2App)

153 I guess the FBI is allowed to lie and cheat because of all the fine work they do.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 15, 2018 01:00 PM (onc1L)

154 "Put on the spot by the IG, Agent 1 explained his indiscreet comments as just being the nature of using instant messaging. He succumbed to a "water cooler" style of "jocularity" because he thought IMs "were not retained by the FBI and therefore used less caution with those communications than he would have with other types of communications."


Umm...ok, now you wanna answer the original question?

Posted by: Tami at June 15, 2018 01:00 PM (Enq6K)

155 110 Is that for real

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 15, 2018 01:01 PM (JFO2v)

156 My brother has started to call them just "The Party" - the GOPe/Democrat/State/Media combine. It's all just "The Party." I kinda like it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Makes it sound too fun.

We already have 'The Uniparty'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 15, 2018 01:01 PM (zfrbv)

157 They mean to hold on to power, no matter how much blood needs to be spilled to do it.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at June 15, 2018 12:56 PM (O9qtX)

I'll take "When in the course of human events" for $1000, Alex.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 15, 2018 01:01 PM (AURKQ)

158 "Deep State" lends some kind of imprimatur to these people. We may want to begin calling them the "Subversive State."

Posted by: Marcus T at June 15, 2018 12:51 PM (8Ku6c)

++++++++

My brother has started to call them just "The Party" - the
GOPe/Democrat/State/Media combine. It's all just "The Party." I kinda
like it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2018 12:55 PM (I2dne)


I like that better. The Party.


One big fat conglomeration, of politicians, bureaucrats, law enforcement, intelligence community, media, lobbyists, CoCers, and general suckers of cox everywhere.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2018 01:02 PM (9chmE)

159 Jail time? Executions? Laughable, as AG Roddy is on their side

Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 01:02 PM (hDLaM)

160 The Tree of Liberty is looking like it needs some attention.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 15, 2018 01:02 PM (onc1L)

161 I like that all of our betters are breaking the law by using personal G-mail accounts.

What kind of ads start popping up for them after they send classified information?

Is there a company that advertises polonium-tipped umbrellas?

Posted by: Furious George at June 15, 2018 01:02 PM (9vQJW)

162

We can't find out the identity of agent 1 because that might screw up his chances at advancing to a top leadership position at the FBI.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 15, 2018 01:02 PM (10vO4)

163 i]The Igno Daughter saw Incredibles 2 last night and says it's better than the first The Igno Daughter saw Incredibles 2 last night and says it's better than the first

----

I think people are reading a lot into it that isn't there because we're so hyper political these days.


No. 1 Son and I hated it, not for any political reasons but because it's pointless and unfocused.

Interesting that someone loved it. Horse races, etc.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 15, 2018 01:03 PM (fuK7c)

164 One bright point; the more of their shit exposed, the stronger Trump gets.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 15, 2018 01:03 PM (o2MD2)

165 This IG report is one report out of three that will
be released. Notice it has some facts and some opinion in it. It's not a
formal prosecutorial investigation, it's like an HR report in a Fortune
500 company. Only so much is actionable and without being able to
actually subpoena and interview people who no longer work at the FBI or
DOJ( Comey, Lynch, now McCabe, etc.) it has little outside legal teeth.



Posted by: Jen the original at June 15, 2018 12:53 PM (NLeU

Folks need to prepare themselves for a LOOOONG wait before any IG report is released on FISA/CIA/NSA abuse. The FBI dragged their feet on releasing documents for over a year - in some cases Congress is still waiting. The intel community can hold out indefinitely, and if push comes to shove can invent whatever story they wish. That's what they exist to do.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 15, 2018 01:03 PM (UBzPO)

166 Off the reservation, no, Trump's opinion of Wray could be grievously, disastrously wrong. It's looking like it. Unless, as with most rationalizations so many people endlessly cling to, Wray is another one involved in 1,342-dimensional chess by publicly pocketing the ludicrous whitewash of the IG findings and rubbing any observant citizens' faces in it by announcing ridiculous "training" - while behind the scenes "fixing it".

Posted by: rhomboid at June 15, 2018 01:03 PM (QDnY+)

167 Sundance has been backing Wray for a long time. And Sessions.There are two choices with the FBI: (1) scrap it and rebuild completely; (2) fix it.Item (1) would take *years*. So (2) is the only reasonable option. Sessions job is fixing things.The only opinion that matters is Trump's. His praising Wray is a signal that Wray is on the right side ...
+++++++++
There's a third way, I think. I wrote something like this a while ago (Ace time is in a different stream, though, so I don't recall how long ago it was):
1) Commission and independent (non-DOJ) committee to list every single law enforcement and intelligence function at the FBI.
2) Have a different independent committee rank them in order of importance.
3) Transfer the top 25 LE functions to the Marshals. Transfer the top 25 intelligence functions to the Secret Service. Everything else gets dropped.
4) Agents and analysts from the FBI personnel are eligible - though not guaranteed - transfer to staff the new manpower shortfalls at the receiving agencies. Anyone in management (including SAIC), administration, senior leadership, etc. are ineligible for consideration. Interview preference will be given to personnel who were not hired in the first seven years of the prior administration.

That could be done in 9-12 months, probably, and might help. I don't know. I vacillate between "carve out the cancer and try to retain the good people (who surely exist)" and "burn it down." Reform seems preferable but I also think the FBI is a rotten borough and should be dismantled.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2018 01:03 PM (I2dne)

168 One big fat conglomeration, of politicians, bureaucrats, law enforcement, intelligence community, media, lobbyists, CoCers, and general suckers of cox everywhere.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2018 01:02 PM (9chmE)

And don't forget us!

Posted by: EDUCATION at June 15, 2018 01:03 PM (y8Foj)

169

Yes, I have. Your point?


Sounds as though you believe in the false media hype about pit bulls and their owners, that there's something wrong with them both.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (HaL55)

170 I think this is just evidence of the realization that even the electrojack isn't working on the old bull, and Trump is and will continue to be the new bull, so they need to welcome him aboard (their wives).

Posted by: Farmer Bob at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (d8FNM)

171 My brother has started to call them just "The
Party" - the GOPe/Democrat/State/Media combine. It's all just "The
Party." I kinda like it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix



Makes it sound too fun.



We already have 'The Uniparty'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 15, 2018 01:01 PM (zfrbv)


Well yeah. As evidenced above, they've been having their fun. Unimpeded by anyone.

Well now, daddy's home. And he's got his belt.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (9chmE)

172 I believe Gowdy already had a pretty good idea what was going to be in the IG report when he lavished praise on the FBI last week--just so he could pretend to be "shocked" when the actual report was released.

I'm gonna go with another take: that Gowdy is such an insider "by the book" system guy he couldn't imagine the FBI being bad actors -- they are the FBI for crying out loud! That they were good hard working Americans for justice, and people shouldn't criticize heroes of law enforcement like that.

And now the report is eating away at his absolute support of the system. At least, I hope so.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (39g3+)

173 @125

I could have put it better, was rushing.

The bottom line is that we are in serious, SERIOUS, trouble and it does not look like there is going to be a non-nuclear solution to what ales us.

We are not voting our way out of this, we are not shooting our way out of this.

What needs to happen is that the perpetrators of this coup d'etat need to be smashed to bits so bad that nobody would ever attempt such an action again, but that does not look like it's going to happen.

Bottom line is the next Democrat administrations abuse of the LE and IC apparatuses of this country will only be worse.

Imagine the deprivations of Kamale Harris?


Scary, scary stuff.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (UfMVm)

174 I can guarantee one thing. All of us peons will have to take yet more ethics training, as if we were the problem, and didn't know any better. Meanwhile, the big fish, who do know better, will be hit with nothing more than having to sit through the same training, but of course, not next to us, because they're important.

Retirement looks better every day.

Posted by: pep at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (IkHt7)

175 The Tree of Liberty is looking like it needs some attention.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 15, 2018 01:02 PM (onc1L)

Looks kinda like my ficus, in its current state.

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (4C0+v)

176 We can't find out the identity of agent 1 because that might screw up his chances at advancing to a top leadership position at the FBI.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic


--

Has to be Strozk

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (7ZVPa)

177 Here are a set of facts, especially about the bribery. Will somebody do anything with them?


Time will tell.*



*You can speculate, but you cannot know.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordion Band! at June 15, 2018 01:05 PM (hLRSq)

178 Pit Bulls are violent killing machines of death.

Some are well trained sweet and loveable violent killing machines of death, but the current breed has been bred to be a violent killing machine of death.

Originally fighting and baiting dogs were bred only be murderously agressive to other dogs and animals - but not humans. Why? Because they had to be handled by strangers in the fighting and baiting pits.

That's been mostly worked out of the modern Pit bull. Especially the Baltimore variety.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu in Baltimore at June 15, 2018 01:05 PM (rfqHO)

179 81 65 The real crime here is Lisa Page's face.
Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 12:44 PM (Ncyf9)

Don't make me gum your ass.....

Posted by: Slutty Lisa Page at June 15, 2018 01:05 PM (Y9uH4)

180 Agent 1? You and Agent 5 want to meet for lunch? Bring 2,3 and 4 if you like.

Posted by: Lawyer #2 at June 15, 2018 01:05 PM (HgMAr)

181 Mondays meeting at the Senate Judiciary Committee should be interesting.

*Ricky Ricardo voice*

IG Horowitz, you got some 'splainin to do.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 15, 2018 01:05 PM (i0ykY)

182 Integrity in the FBI is noted by its absence.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 15, 2018 01:05 PM (cpLq8)

183 It demonstrates anti-male/dad is an incompetent clown stereotypes that have been prevalent in media and advertising for years.

I get what you're saying but I think that's less a feature of the trailer than just scars of being beaten up by leftist hate for so long. Like when a black guy is angry that the black character dies in a movie; because in just about every movie made the black sidekick gets it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:06 PM (39g3+)

184 180 Agent 1? You and Agent 5 want to meet for lunch? Bring 2,3 and 4 if you like.
Posted by: Lawyer #2 at June 15, 2018 01:05 PM (HgMAr)

-------

I was told there would be no math.

Posted by: Agent Pi at June 15, 2018 01:06 PM (onc1L)

185 146

add to that
illegally entering US
Not paying taxes
Child endangerment
Joining Gangs
Transporting drugs

at least if your are illegal alien

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 15, 2018 01:06 PM (JFO2v)

186 166 ,,, Trump's opinion of Wray could be grievously, disastrously wrong. ,,,

True. Same with his opinion of Kim Jong Un.

So far I've been pleasantly surprised by Trump so I'm reserving judgement until he completely f*cks something up.

Posted by: Off the reservation at June 15, 2018 01:06 PM (vWMNq)

187 Fire, indict, and convict these people who violated the law. No "anti-bias" training required

Posted by: POS, formerly deplorable at June 15, 2018 01:06 PM (/1AIY)

188 99
"Deep State" lends some kind of imprimatur to these people. We may want to begin calling them the "Subversive State."

Posted by: Marcus T at June 15, 2018 12:51 PM (8Ku6c)


Rouge State.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2018 01:07 PM (ymnmz)

189 Sounds as though you believe in the false media hype about pit bulls and their owners, that there's something wrong with them both.

I took that to mean that pit bulls only go bad when the wrong sort of person gets them and trains/treats them poorly. Some animals and breeds are a lot easier to push in a violent direction than others (you'd have to work really hard to get a labrador or golden retriever to go evil, for example).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:07 PM (39g3+)

190 160 The Tree of Liberty is looking like it needs some attention.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 15, 2018 01:02 PM (onc1L)

We regret to inform you that this tree is too close to your property line. Furthermore, studies have shown that this non-indigenous species of tree has roots which may emit a chemical known to the state of California to cause sad feelings in the Delta Smelt.

As the homeowner, you are obligated to pay us $14,587 for the right to pay an arborist $15,238 to take this tree down.

If you have any questions or feel that this is a violation of your rights under the EEOC or the Paris Climate Accords, feel free to contact us at...

Posted by: Your betters in the government at June 15, 2018 01:07 PM (AURKQ)

191 I can guarantee one thing. All of us peons will have to take yet more ethics training, as if we were the problem, and didn't know any better. Meanwhile, the big fish, who do know better, will be hit with nothing more than having to sit through the same training, but of course, not next to us, because they're important.

Retirement looks better every day.
Posted by: pep at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (IkHt7)
---
Well remember, while every civil servant was getting a seminar about what was appropriate in the workplace--and ANY sex wasn't, BJ Clinton was getting head from an intern.

Maybe they should have doubled-down on that program.

Posted by: Axeman at June 15, 2018 01:07 PM (vDqXW)

192 Sounds as though you believe in the false media hype about pit bulls and their owners, that there's something wrong with them both.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (HaL55)

Pits have more potential for violence than most breeds. Properly trained and handled they are fine. In the hands of your typical white trash drunkard, they kill people. Those people seem to favor the breed for all the wrong reasons.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 15, 2018 01:07 PM (o2MD2)

193 One big fat conglomeration, of politicians,
bureaucrats, law enforcement, intelligence community, media, lobbyists,
CoCers, and general suckers of cox everywhere.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2018 01:02 PM (9chmE)



And don't forget us!

Posted by: EDUCATION at June 15, 2018 01:03 PM (y8Foj)


Oh, Education, you are not forgotten. See the last part: cox, general suckers of.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2018 01:07 PM (9chmE)

194
Agent: "Even if he said the truth ... aint noone gonna do shit"

Sadly, true.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 15, 2018 01:07 PM (BWL+E)

195 So a pit bull is just a tool that can be used for good or evil?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 15, 2018 01:08 PM (onc1L)

196 Whatever happened to Fay Wray?
That delicate satin draped frame
As it clung to her thigh, how I started to cry
Cause I wanted to be dressed just the same...

Posted by: Dr. Frank N. Furter at June 15, 2018 01:08 PM (ctuyM)

197
And what exactly is "unleashing hell"? Seriously, what is it you want Trump to do? Simultaneously fire Sessions, Rosenstein, Wray, whoever is #2,#3, #4 at the DOJ and the FBI? Then demand #5 whoever that is, empanel a grand jury, and get indictments so these people can all be arrested ( let's see, we want to do that within 12 hours of the release of the IG's report) or should we just dispense with the constitutional stuff and simply order the army to arrest these people, a la NK style?

This IG report is one report out of three that will be released. Notice it has some facts and some opinion in it. It's not a formal prosecutorial investigation, it's like an HR report in a Fortune 500 company. Only so much is actionable and without being able to actually subpoena and interview people who no longer work at the FBI or DOJ( Comey, Lynch, now McCabe, etc.) it has little outside legal teeth.


Posted by: Jen the original at June 15, 2018 12:53 PM (NLeU

I am really, REALLY beginning to NOT see a down side to this option...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 15, 2018 01:08 PM (8D42x)

198 My brother has started to call them just "The
Party" - the GOPe/Democrat/State/Media combine. It's all just "The
Party." I kinda like it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Winston Smith also called them "The Party".....seems appropriate.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 15, 2018 01:08 PM (EoRCO)

199 "The fix is in" is the probably the most dangerous thought to the nation. When the general population realizes the extent of corruption in law enforcement, we will lose the general population's casual and reflexive compliance with the law. Lose that, and everything goes to shit.

Posted by: wooga at June 15, 2018 01:08 PM (o9AkN)

200 I'm gonna go with another take: that Gowdy is such an insider "by the book" system guy he couldn't imagine the FBI being bad actors -- they are the FBI for crying out loud! That they were good hard working Americans for justice, and people shouldn't criticize heroes of law enforcement like that.

And now the report is eating away at his absolute support of the system. At least, I hope so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (39g3+)

I don't know. I think maybe he already knew it was a den of back-stabbing college boys with guns, but wanted this report to come out so he could publicly admit it.

Posted by: EDUCATION at June 15, 2018 01:08 PM (y8Foj)

201 181: Horowitz couldn't give a fuck less about the Senate JudiCiary Committee, he minimized this just like he did fast and furious. The man is a democrat, first, second and third

Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 01:08 PM (hDLaM)

202
Has to be Strozk

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (7ZVPa)


I don't think so because its being reported that agent 1 went on to marry the agent he was sending messages to.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 15, 2018 01:09 PM (10vO4)

203 A law enforcement officer talking about subverting an election isn't bias, it's treason.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2018 01:09 PM (oVJmc)

204 @192

Agreed. I'm okay with people owning pitbulls, as long as they are subjected to severe penalties if their pitbull attacks someone. Such a penalty could include dropping into a pit filled with hungry pit bulls.

Posted by: pep at June 15, 2018 01:09 PM (IkHt7)

205 153
I guess the FBI is allowed to lie and cheat because of all the fine work they do.

Posted by: Cicero


*fistbump*

Posted by: J. Sessions at June 15, 2018 01:09 PM (r9UYA)

206 I believe Gowdy already had a pretty good idea what was going to be in the IG report when he lavished praise on the FBI last week--just so he could pretend to be "shocked" when the actual report was released.
Why? I don't know. But I'm sure it was for a reason.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 15, 2018 12:54 PM (y8Foj)


Yeah, I had the same vibe. He didn't convince me.

As far as Trump's response, the silence is a good thing. He's got to think this all through and I hope he has good advisers on all of this. I'm not sure who he is really listening to.

What sucks is he has been focusing on many things, especially N Korea, so this is all such crap for him to have to deal with.

Trump's instincts are usually really good. Let's see what he zeroes in on.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 15, 2018 01:09 PM (fceHP)

207
Rumor has it that Rosenstein was part of the conclusion and summary authorship.

And why does the "lied his ass off" agent still have a job? He knows a witness was lying and purposely accepted the statement.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 15, 2018 01:10 PM (r+sAi)

208 So far I've been pleasantly surprised by Trump so I'm reserving judgement until he completely f*cks something up.
Posted by: Off the reservation at June 15, 2018 01:06 PM


Dude. That would be everything.

Posted by: Bill Krystal at June 15, 2018 01:10 PM (ctuyM)

209 207 And why does the "lied his ass off" agent still have a job? He knows a witness was lying and purposely accepted the statement.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 15, 2018 01:10 PM (r+sAi)

Laws don't apply to Democrats.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 01:10 PM (WDCYi)

210
Agent 1? You and Agent 5 want to meet for lunch? Bring 2,3 and 4 if you like.
Posted by: Lawyer #2 at June 15, 2018 01:05 PM (HgMAr)


It's like Get Smart.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 15, 2018 01:11 PM (10vO4)

211 I'm losing faith in my country because I'm losing faith in its institutions. And that is not my fault but the fault of those entrusted with running and maintaining those institutions. And not to make too much of my own inconsequential observations but I feel compelled to say that this is how civilizations collapse. When the citizenry loses faith, what is left?

I think we're just going through the motions of pretending that we're still a Republic.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2018 01:11 PM (FWsqf)

212 203: And nothing will happen. Roddy and Sessionzzz will protect the government

Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 01:11 PM (hDLaM)

213 "The fix is in" is the probably the most dangerous thought to the nation. When the general population realizes the extent of corruption in law enforcement, we will lose the general population's casual and reflexive compliance with the law. Lose that, and everything goes to shit.
Posted by: wooga at June 15, 2018 01:08 PM (o9AkN)

I've already said that if "they" manage to take out Trump--even if it's only by beating him in 2020--while all the bad actors walk away scot-free, the countdown to the End of The Republic will have begun....

Posted by: EDUCATION at June 15, 2018 01:11 PM (y8Foj)

214 >>>Sounds as though you believe in the false media hype about pit bulls and their owners, that there's something wrong with them both.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (HaL55)
_______
There's nothing wrong with them. They are violent killing machines of death just like they are supposed to be.

They aren't supposed to be a family dog for your toddler to play fight with.

You don't hunt rats with a .357 and you don't heard sheep with a beagle. Pit bulls are fine beautiful animals, but for their intended purpose - fearless pain resistant nigh-unstoppable destruction.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu in Baltimore at June 15, 2018 01:11 PM (rfqHO)

215 Burn it all down and start over.
Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2018 12:34 PM


Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 15, 2018 01:11 PM (p+Wdc)

216 it's not lying if you don't get caught, amirite ? or is it cheating ?? or lying about cheating ???

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2018 01:11 PM (bUjCl)

217 I guess the FBI is allowed to lie and cheat because of all the fine work they do.

Talking about all the lying and cheating they do is an affront to the Integrity of the Bureau.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 15, 2018 01:11 PM (oVJmc)

218 199 "The fix is in" is the probably the most dangerous thought to the nation. When the general population realizes the extent of corruption in law enforcement, we will lose the general population's casual and reflexive compliance with the law. Lose that, and everything goes to shit.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I've always thought that leftists want to see it all go to shit, so they can then declare Marshal Law and deploy the shock troops. Why do you think all those alphabet agencies were ordering millions of rounds of ammo a few years back?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 15, 2018 01:11 PM (Y9uH4)

219 I have a question on Peter Strozk's name. I hear it pronounced as "Struck" a lot, but I thought that construction would be pronounced "Stroke." Can anyone set me right on this in terms of how the Czech construction would sound? I like calling him "Peter Stroke" because it's funny so I might not change it anyway, but I would like to know the correct answer.

Yes, I can be juvenile.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2018 01:11 PM (I2dne)

220 If you have any questions or feel that this is a violation of your rights under the EEOC or the Paris Climate Accords, feel free to contact us at...
Posted by: Your betters in the government


Come on by and enforce that, my tree needs watering.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:12 PM (39g3+)

221 Horowitz and Wray didn't do the electorate any favors with their statements. So many people already think the government is corrupt and such a leviathan that it cannot be fought or changed.

I still think all of this will harden the voters to vote against the Democrats.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 15, 2018 01:12 PM (fceHP)

222 And why does the "lied his ass off" agent still have a job? He knows a witness was lying and purposely accepted the statement.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 15, 2018 01:10 PM (r+sAi)
---
That exchange doesn't sound like that. It sounds that he got 4-5 different stories out of the guy.

That kind of speaks to some examination.

Posted by: Axeman at June 15, 2018 01:12 PM (vDqXW)

223 Ahoy! Be sure to join me this afternoon at 4 on the Lido Deck for a demonstration performance of the GOPe All-Cuck Buggery Drill Team!

Posted by: Rear Adm. Bill Kristol at June 15, 2018 01:12 PM (onc1L)

224 217: They threw integrity in the trash back in Mueller's reign

Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 01:13 PM (hDLaM)

225 >>>96 I met Eric Felten once, years ago, at an industrial history conclave in Philly. He's an ace dude. Jazz musician and an expert on cocktails. He used to have a regular alcohol column in Wall Street, "How's Your Drink."

I don't think he is a "cuck."

...

he's not and his interest in this case isn't sudden. He's been writing forcefully for at least 3 or 4 months. (I don't remember hearing of him before that.)

I'm surprised the Weekly Standard even allows him to write his blasphemies.

Jonathan V. Last is crowing that Peter Strzok is just like Elliot Ness, determined to bring his man to justice, and so everyone should applaud him.

Posted by: ace at June 15, 2018 01:13 PM (PA9oZ)

226 Someone should ask Agent 5 if the 302's he submitted to his bosses were changed or altered in any way and by whom.


Does Agent 5 have the working copies?


Can we see the "growth" in the 302 over time?




Agent 5, you were aware that your superior's were changing your 302 to substantially defend HRC, flying in the face of know lies on her part?



We either have rouge agents or rouge agencies. If the agencies wont' prosecute the offending agents, then the agency is rouge.





No evidence of predestination, DESPITE THE FACT the exoneration was written before her interview and HRC was instructed to "not lie" and it would all be over with. Yet another case of protocol breaks resulting in a warm sweet kiss for Hilary.



When will the dam break on this.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2018 01:13 PM (ymnmz)

227 Pit Bulls.

I've met some sweet ones. Handsome doggos.

But it's not like they got their name by accident.

It's not really a breed thing, so much as:

1. certain demographic groups buy and mistrest them expressly to make into monsters;

2. when pit bulls go bad, they're so much worse than other breeds because of their power.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 15, 2018 01:14 PM (DAevm)

228 I'm gonna go with another take: that Gowdy is such
an insider "by the book" system guy he couldn't imagine the FBI being
bad actors -- they are the FBI for crying out loud! That they were good
hard working Americans for justice, and people shouldn't criticize
heroes of law enforcement like that.



And now the report is eating away at his absolute support of the system. At least, I hope so.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:04 PM (39g3+)



I don't know. I think maybe he already knew it was a den of
back-stabbing college boys with guns, but wanted this report to come out
so he could publicly admit it.

Posted by: EDUCATION at June 15, 2018 01:08 PM (y8Foj)


I have some contact with law enforcement, in a professional capacity, and it's possible, when you work with officers or even departments, to get the sense that these are good people, doing good work.

It's also possible to encounter some of these VERY SAME people, outside one's professional interaction, and get treated very differently.

So... not making any point here, other than there are some of those folks in Washington, like congresscritters, who may have NO IDEA what the FBI is doing, when it's not dealing with them, as congresscritters. They think because they are treated with respect and professionalism, it must mean everyone is.

Obviously not.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2018 01:14 PM (9chmE)

229 http://bit.ly/2JPbsua
===
Unredacted declassification of the Department of Justice Inspector General report for public viewing. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 15, 2018 01:14 PM (y3aQB)

230 A failed Coup D'état is no way to run a Secret Police Agency. It gives Police States all around the world a bad name.

Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:15 PM (2LelM)

231 226: ultimately few people will read about this and about half will be pleased by the misconduct

Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 01:15 PM (hDLaM)

232 I've already said that if "they" manage to take out Trump--even if it's only by beating him in 2020--while all the bad actors walk away scot-free, the countdown to the End of The Republic will have begun....
Posted by: EDUCATION at June 15, 2018 01:11 PM (y8Foj)

The countdown to the End of the Republic began in earnest in 1860. You could probably make an argument that it actually began in 1788 when the Constitution was ratified.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 15, 2018 01:15 PM (9BLnV)

233 219
I have a question on Peter Strozk's name. I hear it pronounced as
"Struck" a lot, but I thought that construction would be pronounced
"Stroke." Can anyone set me right on this in terms of how the Czech
construction would sound? I like calling him "Peter Stroke" because it's
funny so I might not change it anyway, but I would like to know the
correct answer.



Yes, I can be juvenile.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2018 01:11 PM (I2dne)


Tell me about it.
It's pronounced Azz- wee-pay

Posted by: Aswipe Jones at June 15, 2018 01:15 PM (ymnmz)

234 The Demonic Party. The party of demonics.

Posted by: d9 at June 15, 2018 01:15 PM (WX+x0)

235 Yes, Pres Trump should have fired Wray, Sessions, and Rosenstein...this morning.

After that report and Wray's outrageous presser promising to punish ALL FBI agents with "more training" . Blaming them for something that their bosses should be in jail for doing.


And waiting for more "reports" with conclusions telling us that "mistakes were made", but there was no illegality does not sound sane, when in the meantime we have rogue prosecutors putting people in jail, and ruining livelihoods.

And waiting for mid-terms is my favorite....Republicans are good at that...don't worry, after we win the midterms things will be better.

Bull shit.

Posted by: Pam at June 15, 2018 01:15 PM (qRq6C)

236 Why do I get the impression that the FBI put its dimmest bulbs on the Clinton case?

Posted by: Sam in Va at June 15, 2018 01:15 PM (i00J6)

237 Ahoy! Be sure to join me this afternoon at 4 on the Lido Deck for a demonstration performance of the GOPe All-Cuck Buggery Drill Team!
Posted by: Rear Adm. Bill Kristol at June 15, 2018 01:12 PM


Now hear this!

The venue has been changed to the Poop Deck.

That is all.

Posted by: Colonel Cathcart at June 15, 2018 01:15 PM (ctuyM)

238 I think we're just going through the motions of pretending that we're still a Republic.

A republic is a form of government in which the people through democratic election choose a representative to go to government and carry out their will. The representative is elected based on their statements of intent and policy, which the people select to best support and execute the policy they desire. These people are to be no more or better than their voters, only given a limited amount of power for their term of office by the voters.

With voter fraud, fixed elections, and lying representatives, who can ignore the law without penalty, how much Republic do we have left? I say its only a shell, the image of a Republic without any of its actuality. We're no longer in a Republic, we're in the next stage before tyranny, the Oligarchy: rule by the powerful and wealthy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:15 PM (39g3+)

239 Pits have more potential for violence than most breeds. Properly trained and handled they are fine. In the hands of your typical white trash drunkard, they kill people. Those people seem to favor the breed for all the wrong reasons.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 15, 2018 01:07 PM (o2MD2)


When did Mike Vick do a reverse Talcum X?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 15, 2018 01:16 PM (y7DUB)

240 Can someone explain the following:
(mlb.com/standings, ALEast)
BOS 48-22, 0.686
NYY 44-20, 0.688

They currently show NYY 1 GB.

What? Not by normal definitions of GB! (4+2)/2= 3GB.
Are there special rules for Yankees fans?

Posted by: Stats at June 15, 2018 01:16 PM (nRGkp)

241 Director Wray says that all the agents are being retrained, you know, kind of like a firmware update.
So, it's all good, nothing to see here, move along.

Posted by: navybrat, keeping a low profile at June 15, 2018 01:16 PM (w7KSn)

242 How about Giuliani as new Director of FBI? Let Mueller start sweating.

Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:16 PM (2LelM)

243 I'm gonna go with another take: that Gowdy is such an insider "by the
book" system guy he couldn't imagine the FBI being bad actors -- they
are the FBI for crying out loud! That they were good hard working
Americans for justice, and people shouldn't criticize heroes of law
enforcement like that.
=====

That is what I see, as well. Andrew McCarthy has been sloooowly moving into shock and dismay.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 15, 2018 01:17 PM (MIKMs)

244 >>>e can't find out the identity of agent 1 because that might screw up his chances at advancing to a top leadership position at the FBI.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic


--

Has to be Strozk

...

NOPE! These are two other agents besides Strzok and Page (the latter isn't even an agent but a DOJ lawyer).

This is "another amorous couple," as Felten says.

They were not cheating, though. I think they were single. They were just fucking on the job and shit.

Posted by: ace at June 15, 2018 01:17 PM (PA9oZ)

245 It's not really a breed thing, so much as:

1. certain demographic groups buy and mistrest them expressly to make into monsters;

2. when pit bulls go bad, they're so much worse than other breeds because of their power.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 15, 2018 01:14 PM (DAevm)

The majority of pit bull owners are scumbags. In urban areas, 100% are....

Posted by: EDUCATION at June 15, 2018 01:17 PM (y8Foj)

246 did the IG report touch on the grants of immunity to Clinton's co-conspirators?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 15, 2018 01:17 PM (FOPyv)

247 Director Wray says that all the agents are being retrained, you know, kind of like a firmware update.
So, it's all good, nothing to see here, move along.
Posted by: navybrat, keeping a low profile at June 15, 2018 01:16 PM (w7KSn)

--------

Tragically hilarious.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 15, 2018 01:17 PM (onc1L)

248 241
Director Wray says that all the agents are being retrained, you know, kind of like a firmware update.

So, it's all good, nothing to see here, move along.

Posted by: navybrat, keeping a low profile at June 15, 2018 01:16 PM (w7KSn)


Great thanks. What about the rampant pattern criminality and political favoritism in your midst.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2018 01:17 PM (ymnmz)

249 I'm losing faith in my country because I'm losing
faith in its institutions. And that is not my fault but the fault of
those entrusted with running and maintaining those institutions. And not
to make too much of my own inconsequential observations but I feel
compelled to say that this is how civilizations collapse. When the
citizenry loses faith, what is left?

I think we're just going through the motions of pretending that we're still a Republic.


Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2018 01:11 PM (FWsqf)


Yep, and that's why, when we are occasionally yelled at here, by those who want to say "American exceptionalism" and all that, it just makes me sad. Because they were right. As recently as... oh, let's say as recently as the early 90s, but since then, American exceptionalism has been swirling the toilet.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2018 01:17 PM (9chmE)

250 So if Agent 1 marries Agent 5 and they have a baby do they name it Six? Or will they stick with prime numbers? Quite a conundrum.

Posted by: Lawyer #2 at June 15, 2018 01:18 PM (HgMAr)

251 "That said, so far it looks like the summary and recommendations don't track with the report's contents. Almost like they want to give a shortcut to the "right answer" to the press or somesuch regardless of what the meat-and-potatoes report actually reveals."

Joe Mannix, that was one of the great partings of the ways with the IPCC and various scientists: the "conclusions" presented in the abstracts did not jibe with (and sometimes outright contradicted) the work presented by those participating.

Precisely BECAUSE reporters don't read, they are spoonfed.

(and remember Jack Ryan's "canary trap"--write something punchy as an intro--someone won't be able to resist it, etc)

Posted by: barbarausa at June 15, 2018 01:18 PM (ru28e)

252 I think and at some level hope, that we're getting closer to the point where voters lose all confidence in elections, the government, and law and things go horribly pear shaped. In a nation of over 300 million people, there's just not enough law enforcement or military to restrain that kind of anarchy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:18 PM (39g3+)

253 A failed Coup D'etat is no way to run a Secret Police Agency. It gives Police States all around the world a bad name.

Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:15 PM (2LelM)

Hey, no need to get all Coupe Deville on us! Mistakes were made. That's all I'm saying. Mistakes were made. --IG Horowitz

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 15, 2018 01:18 PM (9BLnV)

254 235: just like I've been saying, it's only a matter of poor supervision. That was Horowitz' conclusion on Fast and Furious, too. His weasel words were not because Obama was pres, the man is a pussy

Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 01:18 PM (hDLaM)

255
239 Pits have more potential for violence than most breeds. Properly trained and handled they are fine. In the hands of your typical white trash drunkard, they kill people. Those people seem to favor the breed for all the wrong reasons.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 15, 2018 01:07 PM (o2MD2)
-----------------
Xipe, walk around any diverse Blue Bubble City and find out which demograph owns the most Pit Bulls per capita. It ain't hayseeds.

Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:18 PM (2LelM)

256 238
With voter fraud, fixed elections, and lying representatives, who can ignore the law without penalty, how much Republic do we have left? I say its only a shell, the image of a Republic without any of its actuality. We're no longer in a Republic, we're in the next stage before tyranny, the Oligarchy: rule by the powerful and wealthy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:15 PM (39g3+)


See Garret Garrett's essay "The Revolution Was", published in 1938.

Posted by: rickl at June 15, 2018 01:18 PM (xjiRE)

257 Those agents who massacred Polish Army officers in the Katyn Forest will be retrained.

Posted by: Comrade Stalin at June 15, 2018 01:19 PM (onc1L)

258 >>What? Not by normal definitions of GB! (4+2)/2= 3GB.
Are there special rules for Yankees fans?


The extra losses are weighted more than the unplayed games.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 01:19 PM (Ncyf9)

259 >>>"Deep State" lends some kind of imprimatur to these people. We may want to begin calling them the "Subversive State."

The Sewer State

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 15, 2018 01:19 PM (bML9A)

260 250 Or will they stick with prime numbers?

One is not prime.

Posted by: Off the reservation at June 15, 2018 01:19 PM (vWMNq)

261 Precisely BECAUSE reporters don't read, they are spoonfed.

Yeah and what's worse, social media wants the instant take on everything, so the fastest way to do that is read the "summary" at the end and just regurgitate the opinion part of the report without bothering to look at the factual content.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:20 PM (39g3+)

262 I sure hope that Trump has cued up the Mother Of All October Surprises to spring on the Democrats before the mid-term elections.

If the D's take back the Congress, all of this crap will 100% certainly be swept under the rug.

Hell, the real enemies of the Republic are sweeping damn hard right now.

Posted by: filbert at June 15, 2018 01:20 PM (953wK)

263 254
235: just like I've been saying, it's only a matter of poor supervision.
That was Horowitz' conclusion on Fast and Furious, too. His weasel
words were not because Obama was pres, the man is a pussy

Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 01:18 PM (hDLaM)


That always benefits the Dems.......... The poor supervision is they got caught.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2018 01:20 PM (ymnmz)

264 Can someone explain the following:
(mlb.com/standings, ALEast)
BOS 48-22, 0.686
NYY 44-20, 0.688

They currently show NYY 1 GB.

What? Not by normal definitions of GB! (4+2)/2= 3GB.
Are there special rules for Yankees fans?
-------------------------------------------------------

Boston has played 6 more games than the Yankees (lots of rain outs), but they have lost TWO more games.
Having more losses counts toward winning percentage

Posted by: EDUCATION at June 15, 2018 01:20 PM (y8Foj)

265 Stalin wasn't a mass murderer, he just lacked the proper training.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 15, 2018 01:21 PM (7ZVPa)

266 Generalissimo Trump starting to sound better all the time.

Executions will be at sunrise.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 15, 2018 01:21 PM (r9UYA)

267

EM BOEREWORS FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at June 15, 2018 01:21 PM (mPeei)

268
American Staffordshire Terriers and Staffordshire Bull Terriers, when bred for temperament, are sweet dogs. Unfortunately, losers and creeps breed for meanness.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 15, 2018 01:21 PM (BWL+E)

269 Ok Republicans, listen up! You guys had a pretty good game yesterday. Your pouncing was good, but it could improve a bit. Now your seizing - and I think you know this - your seizing needs some work. We're going to work on this together. Ready? Pounce and seize on 4.

1 and 2 and 3 and

Pounce and seize and
Pounce and seize and
Pounce and seize and...

You guys in the back try to keep up!

Pounce and seize and
Pounce and seize...

Posted by: Marmo - yes, I am entertained, thank you very much at June 15, 2018 01:21 PM (fq72/)

270 253 A failed Coup D'etat is no way to run a Secret Police Agency. It gives Police States all around the world a bad name.

Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:15 PM (2LelM)

Hey, no need to get all Coupe Deville on us! Mistakes were made. That's all I'm saying. Mistakes were made. --IG Horowitz
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Horowitz is a fluffer for DOJ/FBI. He did his job in outlining the problem. Hint, this is a Leadership Problem. A Fish Rots From the Head Down. There is a Big Eared Fish, a Fat Dopey Fish and then there is a Dorky Too Tall Fish. Time for some nut cutting.

Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:21 PM (2LelM)

271 241
Director Wray says that all the agents are being retrained, you know, kind of like a firmware update.

So, it's all good, nothing to see here, move along.

Posted by: navybrat, keeping a low profile at June 15, 2018 01:16 PM (w7KSn)
...............

Break Dancing With a Holstered Weapon begins at 2o pm in classroom 1B.

Posted by: Lawyer #2 at June 15, 2018 01:21 PM (HgMAr)

272 The Great Leap Forward was just a training issue.

Posted by: Zombie Mao at June 15, 2018 01:21 PM (Y9uH4)

273 The lookouts are being retrained.

Posted by: zombie Capt Smith RMS Titanic at June 15, 2018 01:21 PM (rDwsX)

274 263; Horowitz is an Obama democrat through and through, there was never going to be a blistering report. Never

Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 01:21 PM (hDLaM)

275 Calling Agent Rogue 5.


The muffin is buttered. Repeat. The muffin is buttered


Rogue 1 out.

Posted by: Agent Rogue 1 at June 15, 2018 01:22 PM (ymnmz)

276 266 Generalissimo Trump starting to sound better all the time.

Executions will be at sunrise.

--------

PRO TIP: Go long on helicopter futures.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 15, 2018 01:22 PM (onc1L)

277 In baseball, a loss is a loss, and an unplayed game counts as half.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 15, 2018 01:22 PM (7ZVPa)

278 You folks who've never had pit bulls don't know what you're talking about
After the second time he tried to kill his sister I got rid of mine.

Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at June 15, 2018 01:22 PM (9TR2V)

279 when pit bulls go bad, they're so much worse than other breeds because of their power
=====

They are terriers (Am Staff, etc) and terriers never give up. Jack Russels can be the most vicious little things.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 15, 2018 01:22 PM (MIKMs)

280 "I'm gonna go with another take: that Gowdy is such an insider "by the book" system guy he couldn't imagine the FBI being bad actors -- they are the FBI for crying out loud! That they were good hard working Americans for justice, and people shouldn't criticize heroes of law enforcement like that.

And now the report is eating away at his absolute support of the system. At least, I hope so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor"

I agree with this. I don't think Gowdy's a bad guy and the good far outweighs the bad with him. But due to his background he gives way too much deference to LE. I believe the withholding of the "We'll stop him" text from Congress really pissed him off.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 15, 2018 01:23 PM (OD2ni)

281 https://tinyurl.com/y929fhgf

Posted by: GMan at June 15, 2018 01:23 PM (sxq57)

282 I am going so far to say that today a deep-state judge made Manofort a political prisoner.

This is what awaits us if, heaven forbid, the leftists regain congress and the WH again.

Posted by: Soona at June 15, 2018 01:23 PM (Fs5vw)

283 This is how you get another Lexington and Concord.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at June 15, 2018 01:23 PM (xUc0d)

284 Good lord I have to stop reading allahpundit on hotair

Posted by: taylork at June 15, 2018 01:23 PM (KyA6M)

285 The Good News - The FBI is making the Navy look almost competent.

Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:23 PM (2LelM)

286 Maybe Horowitz is constrained by personal distaste over the aesthetics of helping trump...

but the IG report is pretty fucking damning.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 15, 2018 01:23 PM (FOPyv)

287 Horowitz is an Obama democrat through and through, there was never going to be a blistering report. Never
Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 01:21 PM (hDLaM)


The actual report is as blistering as anything we've ever seen.

It's the executive summary and the conclusions that have been edited down to mealy-mouthed mush.

Posted by: filbert at June 15, 2018 01:23 PM (953wK)

288 >>In baseball, a loss is a loss, and an unplayed game counts as half.


Realistically, it should be counted based on current winning percentage. But it has always been counted as .5 .

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (Ncyf9)

289
Jonathan V. Last is crowing that Peter Strzok is just like Elliot Ness, determined to bring his man to justice, and so everyone should applaud him.

Posted by: ace
+++++++++++
It's sad. The fascists gotta fascist. But the modern fascists pretend they are doing it for your own good, rather than just to grind you under their boots because they want power.

I find it particularly tedious to be oppressed by Pollyanna.

Posted by: simplemind at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (rDUI9)

290 278 You folks who've never had pit bulls don't know what you're talking about
After the second time he tried to kill his sister I got rid of mine.
Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at June 15, 2018 01:22 PM (9TR2V)

----------

I would have fired him when he blew it the first time.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016, Who Will Never Be POTUS at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (onc1L)

291 277 In baseball, a loss is a loss, and an unplayed game counts as half.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 15, 2018 01:22 PM (7ZVPa)

What if it identifies as a win?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (72PAC)

292 In baseball, a loss is a loss, and an unplayed game counts as half.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 15, 2018 01:22 PM (7ZVPa)

The unplayed games will eventually be played. Yankees have several double-headers scheduled....

Posted by: EDUCATION at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (y8Foj)

293 270: so Horowitz had poor supervision? The long awaited report was always good my to be pablum, and nothing will happen

Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (hDLaM)

294 266. 'Until the present emergency - and, folks, it's a doozy, believe me, the worst, just the worst - until the present emergency passes, we'll have to make some temporary changes - just temporary, just temporary - to the way we do things.' - Genghis Don, before donning peaked cap and raybans.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (fA1SL)

295 And enough of the fairy tale that the "rank and
file" at the FBI are just honest, hard workin' men an' wimmen what luvs
themselves some 'murica. They're fascist trash through and through.
Resist.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 15, 2018 12:43 PM (THkA0)

I know a couple of them who recently retired. They both voted for Hillary and the guy told me with a straight face that the only honest man in Washington D.C. was James Comey.

I don't want to have much to do with either of them.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2018 12:46 PM (FWsqf)

I just wouldn't be able to resist calling them to mention how "honest" Comey has been. Course, they might call a few old friends in the swamp and make your life a living hell, but that is a small price to pay for rubbing salt into someone else's wounds and tasting the delicious tears!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (9BLnV)

296
So if Agent 1 marries Agent 5 and they have a baby do they name it Six? Or will they stick with prime numbers? Quite a conundrum.

Posted by: Lawyer #2 at June 15, 2018 01:18 PM (HgMAr)


They can break from tradition and use a color and name the baby Agent Orange

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (10vO4)

297 American Staffordshire Terriers and Staffordshire Bull Terriers, when bred for temperament, are sweet dogs. Unfortunately, losers and creeps breed for meanness.

Yeah. They *used* to be one of the most popular family dogs in America.

Not anymore, though.

Posted by: GMan at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (sxq57)

298 278 After the second time he tried to kill his sister I got rid of mine.

Both of them?

Posted by: Off the reservation at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (vWMNq)

299
282 I am going so far to say that today a deep-state judge made Manofort a political prisoner.

This is what awaits us if, heaven forbid, the leftists regain congress and the WH again.
---------------------
Giuliani as FBI Director for the win.

Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (2LelM)

300 252 I think and at some level hope, that we're getting closer to the point where voters lose all confidence in elections, the government, and law and things go horribly pear shaped. In a nation of over 300 million people, there's just not enough law enforcement or military to restrain that kind of anarchy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:18 PM (39g3+)

What is scary is the amount of people who are not even paying ATTENTION to what is going on.

Talked to my Gardner out here in Calif... he had NO IDEA about the 55 Gallon Water thing...

And while he was complaining about more crime, and theft in our town... he had no idea that the legislature had LOWERED the penalties for a lot of crimes...

Yet... his vote counts the same as mine...

Posted by: Don Q at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (NgKpN)

301 Is the 2020 election going to involve American hostages?

The difference being that in 1980, the hostages were held by a foreign country.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (7ZVPa)

302 What? Not by normal definitions of GB! (4+2)/2= 3GB.

Actually, since 1 Gigabyte = 1,073,741,824 bytes, (4,294,967,296 + 2,147,483,64 / 2,147,483,648 = 3

Posted by: Neil DeGrassy Tyson at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (ctuyM)

303 Would a whitehouse.gov petition give PDT the cover to do something decisive, such as fire rosenstein, with out the congressional pushback with which he's been
threatened? Maybe a few hundred thousand signatures? The petition in May to fire sessions only got about 10K, but I never heard anyone mention it, too.

Posted by: Ever at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (QPeHQ)

304 294 266. 'Until the present emergency - and, folks, it's a doozy, believe me, the worst, just the worst - until the present emergency passes, we'll have to make some temporary changes - just temporary, just temporary - to the way we do things.' - Genghis Don, before donning peaked cap and raybans.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (fA1SL)

We were promised epaulettes.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (WDCYi)

305 274
263; Horowitz is an Obama democrat through and through, there was never going to be a blistering report. Never

Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 01:21 PM (hDLaM)


The underlying facts in the report are horrifying,even though it has been softened (like with exlax). The summary flies in the face of the presoftened facts even worse, and then Wray comes in ans says HR will do an in service.

This is play number 9 out of the old playbook. Trump need to burn that playbook in the rose garden post haste.


Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (ymnmz)

306 You folks who've never had pit bulls don't know what you're talking about
After the second time he tried to kill his sister I got rid of mine.
Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in

...

One tore half of my SIL's upper lip off three years ago.

Beautiful, beautiful woman. Had an international modeling contract at one time. It would be a trajedy for anyone, obviously. Marring.

I'd be fine if pit bulls were flat outlawed.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (mUCK1)

307 In baseball, a loss is a loss, and an unplayed game counts as half.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 15, 2018 01:22 PM (7ZVPa)

Is this like some o' dat Confucius say shit?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 15, 2018 01:26 PM (9BLnV)

308 "I am going so far to say that today a deep-state judge made Manofort a political prisoner. "

Well, the judge has been helpful to manafort, especially challenging mueller's nigh unlimited powered granted unto him by rosenstein's secret letter.

And I thought that it's weird to allege tampering when defendents have the right to confront/discovery/ and to prepare. but maybe manaforts contacts were a bit too much for this judge.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 15, 2018 01:26 PM (FOPyv)

309 297 American Staffordshire Terriers and Staffordshire Bull Terriers, when bred for temperament, are sweet dogs. Unfortunately, losers and creeps breed for meanness.

Yeah. They *used* to be one of the most popular family dogs in America.

---------

Hence their other name. Land Manatee.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 15, 2018 01:26 PM (onc1L)

310 I lost the election because I lacked the proper training!

*hic*

Posted by: HRC at June 15, 2018 01:26 PM (4C0+v)

311 305: as the "agent" said, " ain't no one gonna do shit"

Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 01:27 PM (hDLaM)

312 "This is what awaits us if, heaven forbid, the leftists regain congress and the WH again."

A million dollars in carpets?

Posted by: Elmer at June 15, 2018 01:27 PM (i7nwV)

313 289


Jonathan V. Last is crowing that Peter Strzok is just like Elliot
Ness, determined to bring his man to justice, and so everyone should
applaud him.



Posted by: ace

+++++++++++

It's sad. The fascists gotta fascist. But the modern fascists
pretend they are doing it for your own good, rather than just to grind
you under their boots because they want power.



I find it particularly tedious to be oppressed by Pollyanna.

Posted by: simplemind at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (rDUI9)


Even in the absence of evidence or a crime.
LOL

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2018 01:27 PM (ymnmz)

314 Literally, turning my stomach.

Posted by: socalcon at June 15, 2018 01:27 PM (JHaUw)

315 "Jonathan V. Last is crowing that Peter Strzok is just like Elliot Ness, determined to bring his man to justice, and so everyone should applaud him.

Posted by: ace"

I see Noah Rothman is going after Mollie Hemingway again on Twitter. These beta NT'ers really have a special dislike for her above all others. It's so weird.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 15, 2018 01:28 PM (OD2ni)

316 James Wolfe has launched a GoFundMe page with a half million dollar goal.

"Fund a Criminal." Okay, I made that up. I'm sure the drivel will be obnoxious.

Contrast that to an actual innocent GOP who launched the smaller GFM page, and pledged to give extra donations to help those in same boat.

Posted by: platypus at June 15, 2018 01:28 PM (YOIA1)

317 http://bit.ly/2Mws4bB
=====
FBI Agent Who Questioned Hillary for Email Probe Called Her 'the President' -4 Months Before Election

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 15, 2018 01:28 PM (y3aQB)

318 Nuke the FBI from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Marmo - yes, I am entertained, thank you very much at June 15, 2018 01:28 PM (fq72/)

319 You can let me outta jail now; I just need retraining.

Posted by: Rep. Anthony's weiner at June 15, 2018 01:28 PM (rDwsX)

320 313 Even in the absence of evidence or a crime.
LOL
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2018 01:27 PM (ymnmz)

Cue Donald Rumsfeld!

Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 01:28 PM (WDCYi)

321
There's no tension between addressing the calamitous scandals at DOJ/FBI and winning the mid-terms. They are parallel endeavors. But the corruption aspect is, by far, the more enduring and perilous one."

Let me elaborate on why I think that, right now, the midterms are the only thing that really matters. Make an honest assessment of the situation:

The Senate majority does not support Trump. It's amazing that he has been able to get them to do so much when there are really only 40 senators on his side.

The House does not support Trump. Only mitigating factor is that the House is so dysfunctional that they don't support anyone and can get nothing useful done.

The DOJ still does not support Trump, obviously.

The FBI? Nope.

The Judiciary? It will still be years before Trump has made enough appointments to get a change here.

NOTHING changes as long as the deck is that stacked against him, and us. That's the Reality of our situation today - by and large, this government is still controlled by our enemies, and Trump's. He is not strong enough yet to make a very serious move against them - they still have the power to kick him out, but they're scared to use it for fear of us.

IF Trump can get a Senate and a House that ACTUALLY support him, rather than just pretend to do it some of the time, he will be strong enough to start seriously moving against all the other enemies inside his government, especially those in the DOJ. THAT is why nothing matters but the midterms, right now - if we lose those elections, we lose everything. If we win, then all good things flow from that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2018 01:29 PM (k1TUh)

322 OT - Two sheriff's deputies have been shot in Kansas City, Kansas. They're in the hospital, one in critical condition. Prayers for the deputies and their families would be appreciated.

Posted by: NavyMom at June 15, 2018 01:29 PM (JTwsP)

323
I agree with this. I don't think Gowdy's a bad
guy and the good far outweighs the bad with him. But due to his
background he gives way too much deference to LE. I believe the
withholding of the "We'll stop him" text from Congress really pissed him
off.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 15, 2018 01:23 PM (OD2ni)


I can somewhat sympathize with his predicament. He's a former prosecutor. Had he come out and say "these guys are nuts and connivers" his words - and perhaps previous cases - would cause a lot of defense lawyers to take notice. By holding his fire, he can point to only this specific instance in terms of "shaking his foundational belief" in the FBI.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 15, 2018 01:29 PM (q1VoB)

324 Anyone claiming Horowitz is in the bag for the left is totally clueless about the nearly decade long battle Horowitz led against Holder and Obama on behalf of all of the Inspectors Generals throughout the Obama administration starting with what Obama did to Horowitz as he was trying to report on Fast and Furious.

This is an incredibly damning report for an IG, much more scathing than normal, and it was never intended to be a charging document because that is not what IGs do.

That is what John Huber will do.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2018 01:29 PM (/tuJf)

325 317
http://bit.ly/2Mws4bB

=====

FBI Agent Who Questioned Hillary for Email Probe Called Her 'the President' -4 Months Before Election

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 15, 2018 01:28 PM (y3aQB)


Nope not biased.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2018 01:29 PM (ymnmz)

326 One is not prime.
Posted by: Off the reservation at June 15, 2018 01:19 PM


One is the loneliest number.

Posted by: Three Pit Bull Night at June 15, 2018 01:29 PM (ctuyM)

327 The fascists gotta fascist. But the modern fascists pretend they are doing it for your own good, rather than just to grind you under their boots because they want power.

Same as the original fascists. They insisted that they were creating a utopia, they were going to bring peace and prosperity and scientific advancement to the world while protecting the people and making for a better humanity. That was the reason for all their evil, they weren't doing it just to be evil or because they were jerks. They thought it was the right thing to do. That once you get rid of all that old morality and the "less valuable" parts of unevolved humanity, the world would just be a better place. If you just gave government enough power, things would be wonderful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:29 PM (39g3+)

328 I'd be fine if pit bulls were flat outlawed.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (mUCK1)


Yes.

Posted by: eleven at June 15, 2018 01:29 PM (+lOpA)

329 Good lord I have to stop reading allahpundit on hotair
Posted by: taylork at June 15, 2018 01:23 PM (KyA6M)


I still check out Patterico to see what an inarticulate retard and unlikeable fuck he's become. Not something I'm particularly proud of, like pulling wings off flies; but I still do it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 15, 2018 01:30 PM (y7DUB)

330 Nuke the FBI from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Posted by: Marmo - yes, I am entertained, thank you very much at June 15, 2018 01:28 PM (fq72/)


I think a parade of U.S. Marshals perpwalking arrested FBI agents out of the J. Edgar Hoover building would be more effective and useful in the long run.

Posted by: filbert at June 15, 2018 01:30 PM (953wK)

331 Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (ymnmz)
=====
For about the Millionth time the "Summary" was not written by Horowitz

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 15, 2018 01:30 PM (y3aQB)

332 315 I see Noah Rothman is going after Mollie Hemingway again on Twitter. These beta NT'ers really have a special dislike for her above all others. It's so weird.
Posted by: Benji Carver at June 15, 2018 01:28 PM (OD2ni)

I had forgotten Rothman existed. And I was perfectly happy in that ignorance.

Now I am saddened.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 01:30 PM (WDCYi)

333 Is the 2020 election going to involve American hostages?

The difference being that in 1980, the hostages were held by a foreign country.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (7ZVPa)

In 2020 the hostages will ultimately be a result of a lack of proper training.

Posted by: The FBI at June 15, 2018 01:30 PM (4C0+v)

334 281
https://tinyurl.com/y929fhgf

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Argument begins when breed experts try to nail down which preexisting terrier breeds reside in the AmStaff's genetic background.
----

Seems to me that arguments start when toddlers are killed.

Posted by: Off the reservation at June 15, 2018 01:30 PM (vWMNq)

335 You can let me outta jail now; I just need retraining.
Posted by: Rep. Anthony's weiner at June 15, 2018 01:28 PM


Please, for all that is good, NO!

Posted by: The horse at the clinic at June 15, 2018 01:30 PM (ctuyM)

336 I think Agent 1 is having a fling with a Forensic anthropologist at the Jeffersonian.

Posted by: JAS at June 15, 2018 01:30 PM (3HNOQ)

337 One is the loneliest number.
Posted by: Three Pit Bull Night at June 15, 2018 01:29 PM (ctuyM)

Everyone always forgets about me.

Posted by: -1 at June 15, 2018 01:31 PM (72PAC)

338 Jonathan V. Last is crowing that Peter Strzok is just like Elliot
Ness, determined to bring his man to justice, and so everyone should
applaud him.



Posted by: ace

Elliot Ness was bang buddies with a colleague, cheating on his wife and exchanging mean girl texts with the aforementioned bang buddy??

Who knew?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 15, 2018 01:31 PM (rDwsX)

339
328 I'd be fine if pit bulls were flat outlawed.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (mUCK1)
------------------
What about Weiner Dogs?

Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:31 PM (2LelM)

340 Pit Bull discussion. It is the breed. Which is exacerbated by the inter-breeding and the worst genes.

See: British.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 15, 2018 01:31 PM (q1VoB)

341 Same day IG report drops, NY sues Trump Foundation for allegedly doing what the Clinton Foundation indisputable did.

Next day, as people are digesting shocking FACTUAL contents of IG report, Mueller gets Manafort jailed.

Total coincidences. No organized attempt to distract public attention away from IG report whatsoever.

Posted by: Born This Very Minute at June 15, 2018 01:31 PM (XcgmW)

342 So lying to the FBI isn't a crime?

Posted by: Iblis at June 15, 2018 01:31 PM (9221z)

343 324: I tend to doubt Huber will do much

Posted by: CN at June 15, 2018 01:31 PM (hDLaM)

344 "236 Why do I get the impression that the FBI put its dimmest bulbs on the Clinton case?"

That's the optimistic take. The realistic take is the FBI put its best and most trusted agents on the Clinton case, and possibly their most honest. But, hey, those retraining* and intern programs gonna be the silver bullet.

*Hey, does anyone remember what Reno and Freeh quietly did after incinerating the Seventh-day Adventists down in Waco? They attended a program to increase their sensitivity to religious minorities. Must have worked. Don't require any more flaming religious retreats since they got re-educated.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 15, 2018 01:32 PM (lj9H/)

345 Wait. Comey said he didn't know huma and wiener were married when he was told humas emails were found on wieners laptop. And he didn't think it was a big deal at the time? How does them not being married make official state emails on his laptop better?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 15, 2018 01:32 PM (L0ikr)

346 Yep, and that's why, when we are occasionally yelled at here, by those who want to say "American exceptionalism" and all that, it just makes me sad. Because they were right. As recently as... oh, let's say as recently as the early 90s, but since then, American exceptionalism has been swirling the toilet.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 15, 2018 01:17 PM (9chmE)
++++++++
I think the fall of the USSR had something to do with it. We won, and stopped being so vigilant against the enemy. The totalitarians had been vanquished, never to rise again.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2018 01:32 PM (I2dne)

347 "I had forgotten Rothman existed. And I was perfectly happy in that ignorance.

Now I am saddened.
Posted by: Hikaru"


Sorry man. But Ace pointed out that these betas treat Mollie differently and immediately go to 11 whenever she politely disagress. I am now noticing this because it really is true.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 15, 2018 01:33 PM (OD2ni)

348 There once was a Pit Bull named "Ace"
Toss a ball and he'd give it a chase;
The family gave him a hug
Thought he was a big pug;
Till he scared and ate Granny's face;

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu in Baltimore at June 15, 2018 01:33 PM (rfqHO)

349 What about Weiner Dogs?
Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:31 PM (2LelM)


Don't ewe start wit me weiner dog!

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 15, 2018 01:33 PM (o2MD2)

350 Hey, does anyone remember what Reno and Freeh quietly did after incinerating the Seventh-day Adventists down in Waco?

Branch Davidians were not SDA. They were a freaky cult. That doesn't okay murdering people because they won't pay taxes, but lets be accurate here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:33 PM (39g3+)

351 331
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (ymnmz)

=====

For about the Millionth time the "Summary" was not written by Horowitz

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 15, 2018 01:30 PM (y3aQB)


Excuse me. but does somebody else writing the fantastical summary make it come into focus with the facts in the body of the report?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2018 01:33 PM (ymnmz)

352 345 Wait. Comey said he didn't know huma and wiener were married when he was told humas emails were found on wieners laptop. And he didn't think it was a big deal at the time? How does them not being married make official state emails on his laptop better?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 15, 2018 01:32 PM (L0ikr)

Worse than that.

He said he didn't know that he knew they were married.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 01:33 PM (WDCYi)

353 Nobody had intent to be biased.

Posted by: J. Comey, sooper jeenyus at June 15, 2018 01:33 PM (fq72/)

354 Protecting - even rewarding - their own is not new for the FBI.

In 1995, Larry Potts won promotion Tuesday to be deputy FBI director despite his recent censure for poor management of the 1992 siege at Ruby Ridge which left three people dead. The promotion to the No. 2 FBI position was less than a month after he received a Justice Department reprimand for "management omissions" at Ruby Ridge.

Posted by: POS, formerly deplorable at June 15, 2018 01:33 PM (/1AIY)

355 Now it's Huber will come...spare me.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (r9UYA)

356
*Hey, does anyone remember what Reno and Freeh quietly did after incinerating the Seventh-day Adventists down in Waco? They attended a program to increase their sensitivity to religious minorities. Must have worked. Don't require any more flaming religious retreats since they got re-educated.
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The big fix was not appointing anymore Lesbians as AG.

Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (2LelM)

357 >>>What about Weiner Dogs?
Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:31 PM (2LelM)
________
Noooooooooo!

Posted by: Anthony Weiner - Big Sausage Pizza Deliveryman at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (rfqHO)

358 Posted by: Neil DeGrassy Tyson at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (ctuyM)


Actually, GB! is *much* *much* bigger than that.

Posted by: Off the reservation at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (vWMNq)

359 294 266. 'Until the present emergency - and, folks, it's a doozy, believe me, the worst, just the worst - until the present emergency passes, we'll have to make some temporary changes - just temporary, just temporary - to the way we do things.' - Genghis Don, before donning peaked cap and raybans.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 15, 2018 01:24 PM (fA1SL)


LOL.

Posted by: rickl at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (xjiRE)

360 Hey Palpatine, since you're on this thread now, would you mind looking at my comment #219 and let me know your thoughts RE Slavic pronunciation?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (I2dne)

361 Because they were right. As recently as... oh, let's say as recently as the early 90s, but since then, American exceptionalism has been swirling the toilet.

America is still exceptional in the world, but only because the rest of the world is screwed up even worse.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (39g3+)

362 Jack, what evidence do you have that Huber has people testifying before a Grand Jury?

Posted by: Pam at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (qRq6C)

363 so, "LiedHisAssOff" to the FBI is very admirable for protecting the DemMafia. War is PeaceIgnorance (via lying witnesses) is Strength (for the mob)

But Trump telling the Truth ... 8 years of special counsel ... everyone that helped Trump win will be made bankrupt via malicious and frivolous investigation.

They are really spelling it out for us.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (bT8Z4)

364 BREAKING: FBI Director Christopher Wray announces that all FBI offices will be shut down during the month of July so that employees can participate in sensitivity and objectivity training.

Posted by: ShainS at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (fP7L7)

365 You folks who've never had pit bulls don't know what you're talking about
After the second time he tried to kill his sister I got rid of mine.
Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in

...

One tore half of my SIL's upper lip off three years ago.

Beautiful, beautiful woman. Had an international modeling contract at one time. It would be a trajedy for anyone, obviously. Marring.

I'd be fine if pit bulls were flat outlawed.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (mUCK1)


Everbody loves pitbulls, until they don't. It's not their fault, they were bred for it. But people insist nurture will overcome nature. Maybe, but there are too many stories where that is true...until suddenly the dog snaps. Always the same story...it is sudden and unprovoked.

The last case in the South sealed the deal. Eating its owners organs out in the woods. Yea, that did it for me.

Posted by: platypus at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (YOIA1)

366 "Jonathan V. Last is crowing that Peter Strzok is just like Elliot
Ness, determined to bring his man to justice, and so everyone should applaud him."


He better say that if he wants to keep his invatation to my next tickle party with The Rick Wilson.

Posted by: Egg McMuffin at June 15, 2018 01:35 PM (OD2ni)

367 Stalin wasn't a mass murderer, he just lacked the proper training.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 15, 2018 01:21 PM (7ZVPa)

The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a lack of proper training.

Posted by: Joseph Stalin at June 15, 2018 01:35 PM (4C0+v)

368 24 I have nothing but contempt for everyone in the FBI. They are all tainted. Every last one.
~~~~
And that is on their corrupt echelon, 100 percent.
And the MSM needs to be shamed thoroughly for repeating otherwise.

Posted by: socalcon at June 15, 2018 01:35 PM (JHaUw)

369 328 I'd be fine if pit bulls were flat outlawed.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 15, 2018 01:25 PM (mUCK1)
------------------
What about Weiner Dogs?
Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:31 PM (2LelM)

When I was a kid, I saw one of these little bastards rip apart a kitten for no reason.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 15, 2018 01:35 PM (y8Foj)

370 352
345 Wait. Comey said he didn't know huma and wiener were married when he
was told humas emails were found on wieners laptop. And he didn't think
it was a big deal at the time? How does them not being married make
official state emails on his laptop better?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 15, 2018 01:32 PM (L0ikr)



Worse than that.



He said he didn't know that he knew they were married.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 01:33 PM (WDCYi)


Well played, old friend. Well played.

Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at June 15, 2018 01:35 PM (ymnmz)

371 he will be strong enough to start seriously moving against all the other enemies inside his government, especially those in the DOJ. THAT is why nothing matters but the midterms, right now - if we lose those elections, we lose everything.
========
x 10

And let's face it. They were overconfident and probably didn't cheat as hard as the normally do on the last one. Now they are going to pull out all the stops, every time.

Posted by: simplemind at June 15, 2018 01:35 PM (z5aQU)

372 After reading the summaries of the IG report by actual reporters instead of the Lackeys in the Democrat Media, I am now feeling much more safe knowing these FBI employees carry guns and given the right to shoot us first and asking questions later.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 15, 2018 01:35 PM (UsCnO)

373

<end FBI hack

Posted by: John Huber's Hard Drive at June 15, 2018 01:35 PM (XcgmW)

374 >>>Worse than that.

He said he didn't know that he knew they were married.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 01:33 PM (WDCYi)
_______
It's pretty common.

I forget every time I log on to twitter.

Follow me so I can send you this BIG DM!

Posted by: Anthony Weiner - Big Sausage Pizza Deliveryman at June 15, 2018 01:36 PM (rfqHO)

375 Everbody loves pitbulls, until they don't. It's not their fault, they were bred for it. But people insist nurture will overcome nature.

Yeah its like having a tiger as a pet. It can be wonderfully gentle and sweet and kind with the kids... until it eats one. Its a tiger, for crying out loud.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:36 PM (39g3+)

376 Mistakes were made. HR will handle it.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 15, 2018 01:36 PM (o0mD3)

377
Excuse me. but does somebody else writing the fantastical summary make it come into focus with the facts in the body of the report?
====
I think, Don't go to the bank on this, but it was RR & Wray who wrote the summary. Jack Straw would probably know

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 15, 2018 01:36 PM (y3aQB)

378 sensitivity and objectivity training is best conducted at an amusement park

Posted by: runner at June 15, 2018 01:36 PM (bUjCl)

379 -begin FBI hack
-download child porn
-end FBI hack

Posted by: John Huber's Hard Drive at June 15, 2018 01:36 PM (XcgmW)

380 Everyone always forgets about me.
Posted by: -1 at June 15, 2018 01:31 PM


Change that minus to a plus and turn that negativity upside down!

Posted by: Miss America contestant in the burka math quiz competition at June 15, 2018 01:36 PM (ctuyM)

381 The last case in the South sealed the deal. Eating its owners organs out in the woods. Yea, that did it for me.
Posted by: platypus at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (YOIA1)

waste not, want not...

I don't think I could handle a pit bull
I don't think I could even handle a regular fuzzy ole terrier
my crazy poodle is challenging enough

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at June 15, 2018 01:36 PM (hMwEB)

382 "350 Hey, does anyone remember what Reno and Freeh quietly did after incinerating the Seventh-day Adventists down in Waco?

Branch Davidians were not SDA. They were a freaky cult. That doesn't okay murdering people because they won't pay taxes, but lets be accurate here."

Actually, Christopher, the BDs are an offshoot of the SDAs, the "reform" movement. They have a church in the community where I live Also, they were murdered for the children. Or something like that.

The FBI should have been shuttered that very day. Look where inaction got us.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 15, 2018 01:37 PM (lj9H/)

383 Cohen really is the shittiest lawyer.

Posted by: Elmer at June 15, 2018 01:37 PM (i7nwV)

384 Same as the original fascists. They insisted that they were creating a
utopia, they were going to bring peace and prosperity and scientific
advancement to the world while protecting the people and making for a
better humanity. That was the reason for all their evil, they
weren't doing it just to be evil or because they were jerks. They
thought it was the right thing to do. That once you get rid of all that
old morality and the "less valuable" parts of unevolved humanity, the
world would just be a better place. If you just gave government enough
power, things would be wonderful.


I'm starting to think of our fascists - essentially everyone on the Left - as modern day Pharisees, dangerously full of themselves with self-righteousness as they promote their leftist religion. They're perfectly willing to use the full power of the state to enforce their beliefs and actually feel good about themselves, even as they destroy people's lives. That kind of fervor and fanaticism is truly scary.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2018 01:37 PM (FWsqf)

385 353
Nobody had intent to be biased.

Posted by: J. Comey, sooper jeenyus at June 15, 2018 01:33 PM (fq72/)


Nor did I know that I knew that there was no intent to be biased....ya know?

Posted by: Jiminy Comey at June 15, 2018 01:37 PM (ymnmz)

386 Everyone always forgets about me.

Posted by: -1 at June 15, 2018 01:31 PM (72PAC)


i don't know about that ...

Posted by: Off the reservation at June 15, 2018 01:37 PM (vWMNq)

387 Same as the original fascists. They insisted that they were creating a utopia, they were going to bring peace and prosperity and scientific advancement to the world while protecting the people and making for a better humanity. That was the reason for all their evil, they weren't doing it just to be evil or because they were jerks. They thought it was the right thing to do. That once you get rid of all that old morality and the "less valuable" parts of unevolved humanity, the world would just be a better place. If you just gave government enough power, things would be wonderful.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


I'd argue at length that these aren't your daddies fascists.

It's neo-feudalism. The DC crowd wants a disaster-riven country where 'citizens' are forced to seek refuge in mega-cities. Easily controlled by media, submissive, addicted to welfare, and worshipful of their Credentialed Betters in DC.

They don't care about a better humanity; they masterbate to The Time Machine's 'eloi' and 'morlocks' fantasy.

Rule from above and destroy those that don't bow.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 15, 2018 01:37 PM (zfrbv)

388 BREAKING: FBI Director Christopher Wray announces that all FBI offices will be shut down during the month of July so that employees can participate in sensitivity and objectivity training.
Posted by: ShainS at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (fP7L7)

But only for one hour.
On a Sunday afternoon.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 15, 2018 01:37 PM (y8Foj)

389 364 BREAKING: FBI Director Christopher Wray announces that all FBI offices will be shut down during the month of July so that employees can participate in sensitivity and objectivity training.
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No word yet on Open Bathroom Policy at FBI? H8RS.

Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:37 PM (2LelM)

390 Don't hear to much about killer Dobermans anymore. I wonder what changed.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 15, 2018 01:37 PM (aVYsC)

391 Wow.

Mainpage ad just had a black guy and a white chick in a pool, eating watermelon and laughing while a white guy looked on.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 01:38 PM (Ncyf9)

392 Wait. Comey said he didn't know huma and wiener were married when he
was told humas emails were found on wieners laptop. And he didn't think
it was a big deal at the time? How does them not being married make
official state emails on his laptop better?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 15, 2018 01:32 PM (L0ikr)



Worse than that.



He said he didn't know that he knew they were married.
=======
Which is literally impossible. Weiner had already resigned in disgrace and he and his wife had been all over the news for months and months. No one in the united states could have avoided knowing that fact, unless they had just awoken from a coma. The lies they get away with . . .

Posted by: simplemind at June 15, 2018 01:38 PM (0CrXC)

393 Guiliani is on the President's legal defense team. No way he'd be confirmed to head the FBI

Posted by: notsothoreau at June 15, 2018 01:38 PM (JKNZq)

394 >>>When I was a kid, I saw one of these little bastards rip apart a kitten for no reason.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 15, 2018 01:35 PM (y8Foj)
_______
Cats are horrible allergy factories who use you for body heat waiting until you die so they can feast on your rotting corpse.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at June 15, 2018 01:38 PM (rfqHO)

395
The last case in the South sealed the deal. Eating its owners organs out in the woods. Yea, that did it for me.

Posted by: platypus at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (YOIA1)

Which Democrat Party state was this?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 15, 2018 01:38 PM (UsCnO)

396 Actually, Christopher, the BDs are an offshoot of the SDAs, the "reform" movement.

Yes, they came from the SDA but they were NOT SDA, any more than Jim Jones was Christian Reformed despite coming from that denomination.

Seventh Day Adventists do not teach that David Koresh is the incarnation of Jesus Christ to whom you must give all your underage daughters to marry.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:38 PM (39g3+)

397 The norms of the bias and corruption you are allowed to voice on IM and texts have changed.

I guess I'm old fashioned.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 15, 2018 01:38 PM (1ISKN)

398 Cohen really is the shittiest lawyer.
Posted by: Elmer

That costs more you pervert.

Posted by: imaginary peeing hookers at June 15, 2018 01:38 PM (rDwsX)

399 377


Excuse me. but does somebody else writing the fantastical summary
make it come into focus with the facts in the body of the report?

====

I think, Don't go to the bank on this, but it was RR Wray who wrote the summary. Jack Straw would probably know

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 15, 2018 01:36 PM (y3aQB)


Point being that a steaming pile by another authors hand is still a steaming pile.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 15, 2018 01:38 PM (ymnmz)

400 Its not Bias. Its a tax.

Posted by: Justice John Roberts at June 15, 2018 01:39 PM (2LelM)

401
Mainpage ad just had a black guy and a white chick in a pool, eating watermelon and laughing while a white guy looked on.
=======
And the white guy looked like Bill Kristol didn't he?

Posted by: simplemind at June 15, 2018 01:39 PM (0CrXC)

402 I didn't know Anthony Weiner was married to Hillary Clinton's long time personal assistant. I totally thought Anthony Weiner was some random dude who ended up with thousands of Huma's Government emails, including classified emails, on his computer. Since I had no idea who he was, I concluded there was nothing to be concerned about.

Posted by: James Comey, American Hero at June 15, 2018 01:39 PM (XcgmW)

403 Weiner dogs really, really hate cats for some reason.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 15, 2018 01:39 PM (o2MD2)

404 If a Waco situation happened today exactly the same way except they were Radical Muslims , the call here would be to nuke the place.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 15, 2018 01:39 PM (o0mD3)

405 "390 Don't hear to much about killer Dobermans anymore. I wonder what changed.
Posted by: Buzzsaw"


Magnum PI went off the air. Higgy Baby loved his Dobermans.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 15, 2018 01:39 PM (OD2ni)

406
BREAKING: FBI Director Christopher Wray announces that all FBI offices will be shut down during the month of July so that employees can participate in sensitivity and objectivity training.

Posted by: ShainS at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (fP7L7)


And the public is free to stop in and use the bathrooms at the Hoover Building.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 15, 2018 01:40 PM (10vO4)

407 Wow.



Mainpage ad just had a black guy and a white chick in a pool, eating watermelon and laughing while a white guy looked on.





Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 01:38 PM (Ncyf9)

Was it an ad for the Weekly Standard?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 15, 2018 01:40 PM (aVYsC)

408 Don't hear to much about killer Dobermans anymore. I wonder what changed.

People used to talk about how evil German Shepherds were too. Both breeds can be dangerous, but aren't as naturally inclined toward violence as Pit Bulls are. Mostly it was rep, plus Dobies can LOOK really scary, which was most of their rep.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:40 PM (39g3+)

409 393 Guiliani is on the President's legal defense team. No way he'd be confirmed to head the FBI
--------------------
Want To Bet?

Posted by: Justice John Roberts at June 15, 2018 01:40 PM (2LelM)

410 I'm starting to think of our fascists - essentially everyone on the Left - as modern day Pharisees, dangerously full of themselves with self-righteousness as they promote their leftist religion. They're perfectly willing to use the full power of the state to enforce their beliefs and actually feel good about themselves, even as they destroy people's lives. That kind of fervor and fanaticism is truly scary.
Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2018 01:37 PM (FWsqf)

You nailed it by identifying their one defining characteristic trait---"feeling good about themselves."
That's all it is, a sense of superiority combined with a dash of paternalism and and fried in narcissism.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 15, 2018 01:40 PM (y8Foj)

411 Eating its owners organs out in the woods. Yea, that did it for me.
Posted by: platypus at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM


You say that like it's a Bad Thing.

I could help with the Democrat problem again, you know.

Posted by: zombie Alferd Packard at June 15, 2018 01:40 PM (ctuyM)

412 387 I'd argue at length that these aren't your daddies fascists.

It's neo-feudalism. The DC crowd wants a disaster-riven country where 'citizens' are forced to seek refuge in mega-cities. Easily controlled by media, submissive, addicted to welfare, and worshipful of their Credentialed Betters in DC.

They don't care about a better humanity; they masterbate to The Time Machine's 'eloi' and 'morlocks' fantasy.

Rule from above and destroy those that don't bow.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 15, 2018 01:37 PM (zfrbv)

This is why I've been known to say "Nuke Harvard".

Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 01:40 PM (WDCYi)

413 308 "I am going so far to say that today a deep-state judge made Manofort a political prisoner. "

Well, the judge has been helpful to manafort, especially challenging mueller's nigh unlimited powered granted unto him by rosenstein's secret letter.

And I thought that it's weird to allege tampering when defendents have the right to confront/discovery/ and to prepare. but maybe manaforts contacts were a bit too much for this judge.
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 15, 2018 01:26 PM (FOPyv)

Mueller apparently went to a Grand Jury and indicted him on the tampering charge...

I don't think the Judge has even seen the evidence of his 'tampering'.

Note, they are making it harder and harder, to defend yourself.

Now you can't talk to witnesses... oh and they will search your Lawyer and grab all communications between you...

And threaten potential witnesses with other charges... like Flynn... but then leave you hanging forever (while you pay lawyers).

Posted by: Don Q at June 15, 2018 01:40 PM (NgKpN)

414 >>And the white guy looked like Bill Kristol didn't he?


He was just barely out of focus...but, I am wondering if Ace has triggered some sort of GoogleAd Cuckold Algorithm.

Posted by: garrett at June 15, 2018 01:40 PM (Ncyf9)

415 And the public is free to stop in and use the bathrooms at the Hoover Building.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 15, 2018 01:40 PM (10vO4)
++++++++
I wouldn't, though. Good chance of getting trapped when they bar the doors and windows in the middle of the work day and turn it in to an in-situ prison.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2018 01:40 PM (I2dne)

416 BREAKING: FBI Director Christopher Wray announces that all FBI offices will be shut down during the month of July so that employees can participate in sensitivity and objectivity training.

Posted by: ShainS

Is this even real???

Posted by: imaginary peeing hookers at June 15, 2018 01:40 PM (rDwsX)

417 And let's face it. They were overconfident and probably didn't cheat as hard as the normally do on the last one. Now they are going to pull out all the stops, every time.
Posted by: simplemind at June 15, 2018 01:35 PM (z5aQU)


That's why I hope like hell that Trump's got some plan to drop the hammer before the mid-terms.

I fear greatly that the fraud and shenanigans around the mid-terms will be totally off the scale.

This one's for all the marbles.

Posted by: filbert at June 15, 2018 01:41 PM (953wK)

418 Make each FBI employee interview with the Bobs to keep their jobs:

"What would you say...you do here?"

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 15, 2018 01:41 PM (hqZPQ)

419 Off offensive sock.

Posted by: Gumby, I am the Eggman at June 15, 2018 01:41 PM (2LelM)

420 I'd argue at length that these aren't your daddies fascists.

It's neo-feudalism.


I agree, people throw the F word around a lot without really knowing or thinking through what it means. They aren't fascists, they're just power hungry.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:41 PM (39g3+)

421 This is why I've been known to say "Nuke Harvard".
Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 01:40 PM (WDCYi)

#MeToo

Posted by: A Cornell grad at June 15, 2018 01:41 PM (AURKQ)

422 My favorite part of the whole text exchange: the locker room language.

College educated "professionals" yet, they cannot express themselves without sounding like they just walked out of a high school locker room?

Of course, maybe I'm just weird, expecting people with college degrees to be able to express themselves without using 4 letter words.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 15, 2018 01:41 PM (qC1Sy)

423 Mainpage ad just had a black guy and a white chick in a pool, eating watermelon and laughing while a white guy looked on.
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THEY love showing this sort of thing....

Posted by: JoeF. at June 15, 2018 01:42 PM (y8Foj)

424 Guiliani is on the President's legal defense team. No way he'd be confirmed to head the FBI

That, and senility.

Posted by: Elmer at June 15, 2018 01:42 PM (i7nwV)

425 Mainpage ad.

Oh, the lulz.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 15, 2018 01:42 PM (DAevm)

426 Maybe just maybe PDJT is expressing confidence in Wray and calling him a good guy is the same reason he said similar things regarding Whoa Fat. We all know what a terrible character Whoa Fat is, as does PT, but he had his reasons for making nice with him. I have been thinking about this relative to PT talking about Wray and trying to figure out what PT has in mind, and/or maybe I am Pollyanna (albeit older and chubbier)

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at June 15, 2018 01:42 PM (YuQLm)

427 I had forgotten Rothman existed. And I was perfectly happy in that ignorance.

Now I am saddened.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 01:30 PM (WDCYi)
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Dude is the perfect example of what's wrong with the hog's trough we call the "Conservative" media.

I don't know who that little bastard is connected to, but they hired him away from HotAir at a young age to a "respectable" publication like Commentary.

Having read him during his time at HotAir, he had absolutely no merits. He's about as conservative as any Democrat is. He had no ideas (just parroted Allahpundit). And most importantly his writing was ATROCIOUS. Seriously, middle school shit.

"Our" media just serves a revolving door for the "right" people to receive a paycheck.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 15, 2018 01:42 PM (AzW6q)

428 WTF with Wray conducting "classes"?

I would have thought that they would have already cleared each prospective agent of extreme bias BEFORE THEY GET THEIR GUN AND THE GREEN LIGHT TO SHOOT CITIZENS, even though they will be forced to justify the shooting at a later date.


Silly me.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 15, 2018 01:42 PM (UsCnO)

429 That's why I hope like hell that Trump's got some plan to drop the hammer before the mid-terms.

Yeah I fear that he's gone soft on voter fraud because he won. "Well it must not be as bad as I heard."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:42 PM (39g3+)

430 FBI Director Christopher Wray announces that all FBI offices will be shut down during the month of July so that employees can participate in sensitivity and objectivity training.
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Typical Washington - get in trouble, wrangle it into a summer vacation.

Wray: Okay everybody, seminar for a month, sign up via computer, "attend" from home. See you again in august!


Posted by: simplemind at June 15, 2018 01:42 PM (z1fva)

431 "Guiliani is on the President's legal defense team. No way he'd be confirmed to head the FBI
Posted by: notsothoreau"


Please no. I lived in NYC during the disastrous reign of "General" David Dinkins. I am forover grateful to Rudy for what he did there but that ship has sailed.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 15, 2018 01:43 PM (OD2ni)

432 That, and senility.
Posted by: Elmer

Oh baby oh baby, you are such a judge of character. You da man.


That'll be another $20.

Posted by: imaginary peeing hookers at June 15, 2018 01:43 PM (rDwsX)

433 The last case in the South sealed the deal. Eating its owners organs out in the woods. Yea, that did it for me.

Posted by: platypus at June 15, 2018 01:34 PM (YOIA1)

Relax Platypus, this all sounds like the result of a lack of proper training.

Posted by: Christopher Wray at June 15, 2018 01:43 PM (4C0+v)

434 Actually, Christopher, the BDs are an offshoot of the SDAs, the "reform" movement. They have a church in the community where I live Also, they were murdered for the children. Or something like that. "

I have to give the SDA credit on that - Koresh started off as an SDA, but he founded the BD's after the SDA's officially kicked him out of their church for being Too Weird.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2018 01:43 PM (k1TUh)

435 None of this would have happened if I were elected. Face it, y'all fucked up.

Posted by: !jeb at June 15, 2018 01:43 PM (r9UYA)

436 427 Dude is the perfect example of what's wrong with the hog's trough we call the "Conservative" media.

I don't know who that little bastard is connected to, but they hired him away from HotAir at a young age to a "respectable" publication like Commentary.

Having read him during his time at HotAir, he had absolutely no merits. He's about as conservative as any Democrat is. He had no ideas (just parroted Allahpundit). And most importantly his writing was ATROCIOUS. Seriously, middle school shit.

"Our" media just serves a revolving door for the "right" people to receive a paycheck.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 15, 2018 01:42 PM (AzW6q)

He started out at Mediaite, where he was the only one there even slightly to the right of Mao.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 01:44 PM (WDCYi)

437 427 And most importantly his writing was ATROCIOUS. Seriously, middle school shit.


My 8th grade English teacher would have failed him.

Posted by: Off the reservation at June 15, 2018 01:44 PM (vWMNq)

438 Nood. Amazing II.

Posted by: zombie Alferd Packard at June 15, 2018 01:44 PM (ctuyM)

439 @412 -- Nuke Harvard, but leave Dartmouth alone.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 15, 2018 01:44 PM (hqZPQ)

440 >>BREAKING: FBI Director Christopher Wray announces that all FBI offices will be shut down during the month of July so that employees can participate in sensitivity and objectivity training.



And they're entertaining offers from news outlets who would like to provide the agents entertainment/events/meet 'n greet meal activities to assist in establishing better FBI-MSM communications while all agents are in DC for training.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 15, 2018 01:44 PM (W+vEI)

441 Maybe just maybe PDJT is expressing confidence in Wray and calling him a good guy is the same reason he said similar things regarding Whoa Fat.

President Trump is nice to people he doesn't know and complimentary toward people he wants something out of.

College educated "professionals" yet, they cannot express themselves without sounding like they just walked out of a high school locker room?

This is why I take the complaints about Trump's language and behavior with a huge block of salt. This is how they act all the time, then they pretend to be shocked, shocked when they see him do it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:44 PM (39g3+)

442 428 WTF with Wray conducting "classes"?

--

It's the Costanza defense: "well, if only our employees had been instructed that that was wrong..."

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at June 15, 2018 01:44 PM (hMwEB)

443 I agree, people throw the F word around a lot without really knowing or thinking through what it means. They aren't fascists, they're just power hungry.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:41 PM (39g3+)

Most brutal regimes throughout history had either an academic rationale, or a cultist/metaphysical rationale. Or some admixture of both. But say what you will, at least there was an ethos involved. Some nod to propriety.

The modern "Progressive" has completely bailed on the idea of academic or even religious underpinnings, and relies entirely on naked displays of power (Mueller) and an inflamed mob (Occupy, Antifa, etc.).

Don't know what further implications to tease out of this observation. It's just an observation.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 15, 2018 01:45 PM (AURKQ)

444 I see Noah Rothman is going after Mollie Hemingway again on Twitter. These beta NT'ers really have a special dislike for her above all others. It's so weird.
Posted by: Benji Carver at June 15, 2018 01:28 PM (OD2ni)

It's quite simple, actually. You see Ms. Hemingway identifies as a woman, so she should be repulsed by some Neanderthal grabbing her pussy, like all right thinkers. My personal feeling is that Mollie likes havin' da pussy grabbed.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 15, 2018 01:45 PM (9BLnV)

445 434 Actually, Christopher, the BDs are an offshoot of the SDAs, the "reform" movement. They have a church in the community where I live Also, they were murdered for the children. Or something like that. "

I have to give the SDA credit on that - Koresh started off as an SDA, but he founded the BD's after the SDA's officially kicked him out of their church for being Too Weird.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2018 01:43 PM (k1TUh)

I'm reminded of the book "Ravenous", where the evil werewolf took over as sheriff and ran the whole town because he knew how to manipulate Seventh-Day Adventists.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 15, 2018 01:45 PM (WDCYi)

446 Sometimes I think people want put bulls to be able to magically overcome their nature because people want to believe that they can magically overcome their own nature too.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at June 15, 2018 01:45 PM (rfqHO)

447 I'd rather take on a Doberman than a Pitbull for sure.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 15, 2018 01:45 PM (o0mD3)

448 I don't think the Judge has even seen the evidence of his 'tampering'.

Note, they are making it harder and harder, to defend yourself.

Now you can't talk to witnesses... oh and they will search your Lawyer and grab all communications between you...

And threaten potential witnesses with other charges... like Flynn... but then leave you hanging forever (while you pay lawyers).

-----------------

I just want to add that the DOJ prosecutor guidelines are obstructing justice. And so is Andy McCarthy when he points out that mueller is ignoring said guidelines.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 15, 2018 01:46 PM (FOPyv)

449 The FBI training will be about how to converse among themselves more covertly. This getting caught shit sucks.

Posted by: Inspector Jim Clousseaumey at June 15, 2018 01:46 PM (fq72/)

450 As anyone who has worked for a megacorp knows, "training" in things like "ethics" and "compliance" are often just a CYA for the organization. If someone misbehaves and implicates the organization, they can fall back on "we had instructional material provided by Party X in full accordance with the law and corporate policy. Employee 1 took this training and passed the examination at the end of it, and we can furnish those records. This is a good organization, and Employee 1 is just a bad apple. Employee 1 will be disciplined and we will ensure he retakes the enhanced version of the training material and passes all required exams if we choose to continue retaining Employee 1's services."

It is probably the same deal with the FBI as it is with many other megacorps.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 15, 2018 01:47 PM (I2dne)

451 Noah Rothman couldn't get laid in prison.

With a handful of pardons.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at June 15, 2018 01:47 PM (rfqHO)

452 My favorite part of the whole text exchange: the locker room language.



College educated "professionals" yet, they cannot express themselves
without sounding like they just walked out of a high school locker
room?



Of course, maybe I'm just weird, expecting people with college
degrees to be able to express themselves without using 4 letter words.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 15, 2018 01:41 PM (qC1Sy)


Yeah, that's rich ain't it? These are probably the same people who get their panties all in a bunch over Trump being vulgar. Hypocritical a-holes every last one.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 15, 2018 01:47 PM (FWsqf)

453 I didn't know Anthony Weiner was married to Hillary Clinton's long time personal assistant. I totally thought Anthony Weiner was some random dude who ended up with thousands of Huma's Government emails, including classified emails, on his computer. Since I had no idea who he was, I concluded there was nothing to be concerned about.

Posted by: James Comey, American Hero
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You are an outrageous liar. I cannot believe you ran the FBI. You should be ashamed, yet, appear to think you are the victim. Get help.

Posted by: simplemind at June 15, 2018 01:47 PM (ZjCi9)

454 College educated "professionals" yet, they cannot express themselves without sounding like they just walked out of a high school locker room?

Allow me to rant a little.

Have you seen a pic of the NY attorney general that replaced gropey mcNXIVM Schniederman? I don't care that she's not a beauty, but she looks about as professional and capable as an angry mother in law from a trailer park.

What happened to the professionals who looked capable? Where did the bankers go who looked like someone you an trust your money with? What happened to laywers who looked like they knew what they were doing and were learned and capable? What on earth is going on with people these days?

The whole "dress like the job you want" thing is totally gone, its sleeve tats and half shirts and yoga pants, everyone dresses like laundry day at the dorm and looks like they just stumbled out of bed.

I don't want authorities who look like they're homeless guys who put on a new shirt for the sermon before their free meal. For crying out loud, you're 57 years old and in a position of authority, LOOK LIKE IT.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:48 PM (39g3+)

455 May be a repeat, but from The Hill:

The desire among Democrats for Obama to take a more leading role in the midterm fight and party building in general is just getting stronger, particularly with the lack of alternatives.

“There’s f—ing no one else,” one frustrated Democratic strategist said. “Bill Clinton is toxic, [former President] Carter is too old, and there’s no one else around for miles.”

Former President Obama has been meeting with potential 2020 contenders, according to a new report this week. They include Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), former Vice President Joe Biden, and former Gov. Deval Patrick (D-MA). The desire among Democrats for Obama to take a more leading role in the midterm fight and party building in general is just getting stronger, particularly with the lack of alternatives."

Posted by: platypus at June 15, 2018 01:48 PM (YOIA1)

456 321


There's no tension between addressing the calamitous scandals at
DOJ/FBI and winning the mid-terms. They are parallel endeavors. But the
corruption aspect is, by far, the more enduring and perilous one."



Let me elaborate on why I think that, right now, the midterms are
the only thing that really matters. Make an honest assessment of the
situation:



The Senate majority does not support Trump. It's amazing that he
has been able to get them to do so much when there are really only 40
senators on his side.



The House does not support Trump. Only mitigating factor is that
the House is so dysfunctional that they don't support anyone and can get
nothing useful done.



The DOJ still does not support Trump, obviously.



The FBI? Nope.



The Judiciary? It will still be years before Trump has made enough appointments to get a change here.



NOTHING changes as long as the deck is that stacked against him, and
us. That's the Reality of our situation today - by and large, this
government is still controlled by our enemies, and Trump's. He is not
strong enough yet to make a very serious move against them - they still
have the power to kick him out, but they're scared to use it for fear
of us.



IF Trump can get a Senate and a House that ACTUALLY support him,
rather than just pretend to do it some of the time, he will be strong
enough to start seriously moving against all the other enemies inside
his government, especially those in the DOJ. THAT is why nothing
matters but the midterms, right now - if we lose those elections, we
lose everything. If we win, then all good things flow from that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 15, 2018 01:29 PM (k1TUh)

I can't add anything to the excellent observation that Tom has written, but I think it is so important and deep, that it needs to be read again.

Spot on, Tom. Thanks.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 15, 2018 01:50 PM (UsCnO)

457 My (somewhat inconsistently) conservative wife is a good focus group. She is college educated, raised middle class, 2A supporter, a dedicated Mom and entrepreneur.

Her take on the IG report was that Comey must be locked up, and that the FBI attempts to subvert an election are a Constitutional crisis.

So far so good. But she is not (at present) as hair-on-fire about the larger conspiracy to subvert an election and the abuse of intelligence services, e.g. Brennan's concocted "Russia" narrative, his engineering leaks to Reid, the use of "Five Eyes" to conduct domestic political surveillance, FISA abuse, the entrapment efforts, planting informants, the leak/smear machine under Obama, Powers, etc. etc.

It's a case of something being so pervasive and having so many moving parts as to defy a quick narrative. "Deep state" as a shorthand among those who follow the ins and outs just isn't getting the fuller message out there.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 15, 2018 01:50 PM (koNhm)

458 So, none of the people involved were dumb enough to write, "Let's conspire to do this illegal thing."

Welp. I guess they didn't do anything wrong....

Posted by: qzy at June 15, 2018 01:51 PM (kDOdY)

459 "There's f---ing no one else," one frustrated Democratic strategist said. "Bill Clinton is toxic, [former President] Carter is too old, and there's no one else around for miles."

Plus, you know he's the official head of the party and all. But I understand their lack of desire for his version of the DNC

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:51 PM (39g3+)

460 I suspect a "deal" or a quid-pro-quo in regards to the IG report's "conclusions" vs. content. Horowitz and his investigators write the report, and Rodhamstein's people give the Dems some cover with the "conclusions".
But the wheel has f*cking well turned. Drudge links another Bloomberg piece with a concluding paragraph that states that Manafort was charged and jailed for alleged crimes that have nothing to do with the Russian Collusion investigation. That's stunning and I believe that would have never happened before the IG report was published. The MSM now knows how vulnerable they are and they are backfilling like sonsabitches.

Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2018 01:51 PM (Pqytn)

461 >>>447 I'd rather take on a Doberman than a Pitbull for sure.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 15, 2018 01:45 PM (o0mD3)
________
I had a 1/2 Doberman 1/2 German Shepherd growing up. She was a sweetie to the family, but was very wary of everyone else. Even regular guests.

Plus she always insisted on over designing machinery using the metric system and brewing crappy wheat beer. Yuck.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at June 15, 2018 01:52 PM (rfqHO)

462 413:

"
Mueller apparently went to a Grand Jury and indicted him on the tampering charge...

I don't think the Judge has even seen the evidence of his 'tampering'.

Note, they are making it harder and harder, to defend yourself.

Now you can't talk to witnesses... oh and they will search your Lawyer and grab all communications between you...

And threaten potential witnesses with other charges... like Flynn... but then leave you hanging forever (while you pay lawyers)."

To quote Mark Steyn: the process has become the punishment. If you work for the Deep State, though, the punishment is a sensitivity seminar.

I would like to think it can't stand for long, but the USSR lasted seventy-plus years. Maybe we are into the Gorbachev era, to be optimistic.

@396:

Right as to the origins, but not sure there was an equivalency between the BD's and Jim Jones.

Again, though, the failure to hold the FBI responsible after that horrific fuck up led directly to where we are today. And that place is a near-police state where the FB bears quite a remarkable semblance to the KGB.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 15, 2018 01:52 PM (lj9H/)

463 FBI Director Christopher Wray announces that all FBI offices will be shut down during the month of July so that employees can participate in sensitivity and objectivity training.
======
Typical Washington - get in trouble, wrangle it into a summer vacation.

Wray: Okay everybody, seminar for a month, sign up via computer, "attend" from home. See you again in august!



First I thought it was a joke. Then, I decided it was "coup" training. Now, it does sound like a vacay.

What a travesty.

Posted by: platypus at June 15, 2018 01:54 PM (YOIA1)

464 Again, though, the failure to hold the FBI responsible after that horrific fuck up led directly to where we are today. And that place is a near-police state where the FB bears quite a remarkable semblance to the KGB.

I agree, the Clinton Administration basically proved that the FBI can do whatever the hell it pleases with zero consequences, even outright murder. When you can burn children alive in the name of saving them, and there's not even a congressional hearing to punish you... that's going to give you a pretty distorted view of your power and ability to act.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 15, 2018 01:55 PM (39g3+)

465 FBI Director Christopher Wray announces that all FBI offices will be
shut down during the month of July so that employees can participate in
sensitivity and objectivity training.
=====================================
That should allow plenty of time for FBI senior staff to hobnob with FISA court judges at cocktail parties.

Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2018 01:58 PM (Pqytn)

466 When you can burn children alive in the name of saving them, and there's not even a congressional hearing to punish you... that's going to give you a pretty distorted view of your power and ability to act.
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And it was a clear message to the FBI that team Clinton and the dems have your back. Any wonder they tilted for Hillary!

Posted by: simplemind at June 15, 2018 01:59 PM (lQ+gO)

467 BI Director Christopher Wray announces that all FBI offices will be shut down during the month of July so that employees can participate in
sensitivity and objectivity training.

Nice information for Achmed and Mohammed and the Allah Ackbhar group to know. :^(

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 15, 2018 02:03 PM (0/+vJ)

468 >>I think, Don't go to the bank on this, but it was RR & Wray who wrote the summary. Jack Straw would probably know

I don't know for sure but I think the summaries are less important than the texts.

IG reports are not intended to be charging documents. They are summaries of investigations that are intended to be used by other bodies if evidence of improper or criminal behavior is uncovered.

Again, what the summaries says is that there was no documentary evidence related to political bias on any specific decision. That's a very specific statement.

He wasn't saying there was no evidence of bias. The entire report is evidence of bias. But he was unable to find a smoking gun document that said something like "I want Hillary to win and Trump to lose so I am going to take this specific action".

A federal prosecutor might well be able to find that smoking gun cause he has a lot more tools at his disposal including the ability to charge people with felonies if they don't cooperate.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2018 02:06 PM (/tuJf)

469 465
FBI Director Christopher Wray announces that all FBI offices will be

shut down during the month of July so that employees can participate in

sensitivity and objectivity training.
=====================================
That should allow plenty of time for FBI senior staff to hobnob with FISA court judges at cocktail parties.


Posted by: mrp at June 15, 2018 01:58 PM (Pqytn)


Minority and female FBI agents have not had the access that white FBI agents have to FISA judges.

This proves the FBI is a racist, sexist organization that needs re-education training.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 15, 2018 02:07 PM (UsCnO)

470 "There was no evidence of bias."

Yeah, that's great for Joe Schmeo. But, for reportedly the "The Top Investigative Agency in America", that doesn't cut it.

There shouldn't even be a whiff of bias. But, there is a whole lot more than a whiff, here.

Posted by: qzy at June 15, 2018 02:08 PM (kDOdY)

471 He wasn't saying there was no evidence of bias. The entire report is evidence of bias. But he was unable to find a smoking gun document that said something like "I want Hillary to win and Trump to lose so I am going to take this specific action".

Posted by: JackStraw at June 15, 2018 02:06 PM (/tuJf)
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So he wanted the evidence that heroes get in movies, when they trick the bad guy into saying "Yeah, I took him out, and I'll take you out, too, if you get in my way!".

Cue the plucky hero showing the tape recorder...

Posted by: Axeman at June 15, 2018 02:11 PM (vDqXW)

472 For the record; Every time the MSM reminds us that Comey and Mueller are "registered Republicans", the more I doubt it.

Nobody truly knows who they pull the lever for, inside the booth.

But, it's obvious to everybody who they pull the lever for when they're outside the booth.

Posted by: qzy at June 15, 2018 02:24 PM (kDOdY)

473 That exchange between FBIbbers about their interview of Justin Cooper helps explais why, once the FBI figured out that Cooper might not actually be the tech guy who set up the server, Brian Pagliano, the tech guy that Hillary's legal beagles told the FBI WAS who set up the server, figured he was justified in pleading declining questions and then when Congress subpoena'd Pagliano on the understanding he was who set it up, plead the 5th

Problem is, "knowing" some witness lied, in the sense of having an honest belief the witness lied, ain't the same as actually being able to prove the witness lied, including the possibility that things Cooper said to the FBI that FBIbbers assumed were material lies, may not have turned out - almost certainly DID turn out- to be BOTH material AND lies.

And that appears to be what also happened here.

So if Ace has a problem with all this. then his real problem is with the LAW - the legal standard that requires the government only to prosecute witnesses for lying to them when it can be proved BOTH that it's a lie AND the lie told was material to investigation.

The legal standard for lying to he FBI is NOT the same as the legal standard for proving perjury in front of a Grand Jury or "petit" jury (the regular trial jury the public can watch, as well as testifying to Congress).

But U NO WOT? It's never been clearly established that it was Pagliano who set up the Clintons' server. Cooper said, No me; Clinton mouthpieces told Congress and the DoJ it was Pagliano, but how the living fuck would they know UNLESS THAT'S WHAT THEIR CLIENTS told them - their clients being the Clintons.

I suspect that AMO things the FBI and DoJ were concerned about in 2015-16 is they couldn't tell who TF was lying about who installed the server.

Posted by: Moll Polyfarts at June 15, 2018 03:27 PM (x+yK4)

474 People are very mad about this news.

There is only one solution to this problem: we have got to get all these right wing news sites shut down!

Posted by: Phuqdem at June 16, 2018 11:10 AM (olpu0)

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World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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