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Sunday Morning Book Thread 06-17-2018
Another Part of Frizworth's Home Library(click for larger view)
Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Oh, and we've got a new category of readers, escaped oafs and oafettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which are yet another example of pants that don't look good even on an attractive woman.
Pic Note Fritzworth says;
...these are in my home office (I work from home) – technical (mostly information technology/computer science), math, science, languages, books on writing, etc.It Pays To Increase Your Word Power® To BLUTHER is to smear or blot ink while writing. Usage: MSNBC is filled with bluthering idiots. Duncanthrax tips me that the word for the irrational fear of palindromes is aibohohibia. Of course, it was deliberately constructed to itself be a palindrome. I think he's having me on.
The Clinton Book Tour
From a Tuesday morning thread:304 I'm in trouble with my daughter .... again.So, all you moron authors, I have a question: how common is this? I wonder if I'm being fooled by my confirmation bias because I believe the Clinton clan are a bunch of sleazy grifters. How often does an author charge the public merely to be in his presence? I thought that with these book-signing tours, you just paid only if you wanted to buy a copy of the book and have the author sign it. I suppose Clinton could be donating the proceeds of his book tour to charity, but the only charity I've ever known him to be interested in is his own. This reminds me of an article I read in the American Spectator back when the Clintons first metastasized in the national blood stream. Some sleuth (it might even have been David Brock before he wigged out) went through the Clintons' tax returns, particularly their charitable contributions, to see if there were anything interesting. He did note that one on return, they claimed the monetary value of their used underwear(!) which they had donated to some charity. Even though it was perfectly legal, I thought, wow, how greedy and grasping do you have to be in order to claim that deduction? Here is a couple that will go to extraordinary lengths to chase down every last cent. So perhaps it shouldn't surprise me that Bill Clinton charged $60 to be in the same room with him. If I bought his book and asked him to sign it, maybe he'd charge me extra.
She and my SIL went to last night's 'book tour' event in San Antonio for Bill Clinton's alleged book. I babysat granddaughter and grand-dog for them. When they got home I learned they'd paid $60 dollars each to attend. I was appalled.
I told them I've attended well over 2 dozen book tour events in my life and NEVER paid a dime. They got defensive and explained it was an opportunity to see and hear an ex-president...
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (5fkET)
Call For Manuscripts
A Call for Writers!
— David Dubrow (@davedauthor) May 15, 2018
We're planning a sequel to Appalling Stories: 13 Tales of Social Injustice, and we want YOU to write a ripped-from-the-headlines story that'll send SJWs squealing for their safe spaces! Details at the link. #amwriting #writerslife https://t.co/3dkfk2TThC pic.twitter.com/YuwBTAAl08
Go to this link on Dave's site for more info. The first volume of Appalling Stories may be purchased for $2.99 on Kindle. It is also available in paperback.
Books By Morons Moronette author artemis is out with a new novel, The True Pretender:
A member of the French émigré community in London, Epione is forced to hide her true identity, and instead works as a milliner’s assistant in a Bond Street shop. Cautiously optimistic, she believes she’s managed to avoid public scrutiny—until she notices that a handsome man is watching her movements from across the way.The Kindle edition is $4.99. Also available in paperback. ___________ Moron R G Ainslee also has a new one out, The Ethiopian Intercept: A Ross Brannan Thriller (The Secret Cold War Book 2) featuring ELINT analyst Ross Brannan. This latest installment takes place
As she is swept up in the plots and counter-plots surrounding the restoration of the French monarchy, Epione must call upon reserves of courage she wasn’t aware she possessed, and re-learn long-forgotten lessons about loyalty, and love.
...during the 1978 conflict between Somalia and Ethiopia. Somali forces invade the Ogaden region of eastern Ethiopia. The Soviets support the Ethiopians as their principal ally in the Horn of Africa. A Cuban defector reveals the arrival of new air defense system.The Kindle edition is only $2.99. Also available in paperback. The book trailer may be viewed at YouTube.
The Pentagon brass wants to know: What is the new system? Is defector J. Andrew Marsden involved? One man has the qualifications to find out. Ross Brannan. He reluctantly volunteers to fly a covert mission in the SR-71 spy plane over Ethiopia.
Following a ditching into the Indian Ocean, Ross lands on Lamu Island, Kenya and finds himself the target of an intensive manhunt by Cuban operatives. He must rely on his instincts and training to survive and reach safety with critical data from his Ethiopian Intercept.
What I'm Reading
During the first fifty years of the twentieth century, ham radio went from being an experiment to virtually an art form. Because of the few government restrictions and the low monetary investment required, the concept of ham radio appealed to various people...I'm sure you're all as excited about this book as I am, but reading about teen-agers who build their own radios by wrapping wire around those round Quaker Oats boxes and buying tubes down at Woolworth's for 89 cents and then getting up at 5AM to hear a burst of Morse code, barely louder than the background static, and gee whillikers, he's in *Tasmania* and then, wonder of wonder, being able to contact him and exchange signal reports, well, that just can't be beat. It's like hitting an inside-the-park home run. Or, perhaps better, it's like sailing from England to New York in your own small sailboat and staying on course by doing the calculations yourself. Bowditch's Navigator for the win! ___________ Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde. ___________ So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm. What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.
This book explores the history of ham radio operators, emphasizing their social history and their many contributions to the technological development of worldwide communications....The book highlights the part played by ham radio in many of the headline events of the half century, especially exploration and aviation “firsts”. The ways in which these primarily amateur operators assisted in times of disaster including such events as the sinking of the Titanic and the 1937 Ohio River flood, are also examined.
Comments
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OregonMuse you magnificent bastard! I read your content!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 08:50 AM (JxMDl)
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oh bluth....er
Posted by: freaked at June 17, 2018 08:52 AM (UdKB7)
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Agreed. She would look better without those pants.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 08:54 AM (sdi6R)
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The nerd alert blasting on my cell phone made me jump and I fudged the paint on my ogre miniature.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 08:54 AM (JxMDl)
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I swear, I'm gonna finish God Emperor of Dune this week.
I swear.
Also, but my books, blah blah blah.
And if you've read them review them.
Plug done.
I swear.
Also, but my books, blah blah blah.
And if you've read them review them.
Plug done.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at June 17, 2018 08:54 AM (Jj43a)
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Still slogging through Peterson's Rules.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 17, 2018 08:55 AM (EZebt)
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Needs more dust and cat hair.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2018 08:55 AM (wszSn)
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I'm in trouble with my daughter .... again.
She and my SIL went to last night's 'book tour' event in San Antonio for Bill Clinton's alleged book. I babysat granddaughter and grand-dog for them. When they got home I learned they'd paid $60 dollars each to attend. I was appalled.
I told them I've attended well over 2 dozen book tour events in my life and NEVER paid a dime. They got defensive and explained it was an opportunity to see and hear an ex-president...
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (5fkET)
It's $120.00 if you want to be admitted to the Rape Room.
Raped by an Ex-President....Priceless!
She and my SIL went to last night's 'book tour' event in San Antonio for Bill Clinton's alleged book. I babysat granddaughter and grand-dog for them. When they got home I learned they'd paid $60 dollars each to attend. I was appalled.
I told them I've attended well over 2 dozen book tour events in my life and NEVER paid a dime. They got defensive and explained it was an opportunity to see and hear an ex-president...
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (5fkET)
It's $120.00 if you want to be admitted to the Rape Room.
Raped by an Ex-President....Priceless!
Posted by: naturalfake at June 17, 2018 08:55 AM (9q7Dl)
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Tolle Lege
Reading Far Side of the World of Patrick O'Brien series, moving along it pretty well.
Reading Far Side of the World of Patrick O'Brien series, moving along it pretty well.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 08:56 AM (pHfeF)
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TJM, WHY are you reading God Emperor of Dune?? I took a bullet so you wouldn't have to!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 08:56 AM (JxMDl)
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Hello, bookists. Back to browsing Frizworth's titles.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 08:57 AM (fZuhk)
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I sailed from London to St Augustine on my own boat. It was the first time I sailed out of sight of land, which is nice.
Posted by: dc at June 17, 2018 08:57 AM (u0crE)
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Enjoying Chapman's The Jungle is Neutral, but there is something to give a sensitive soul the vapors in every chapter:
"These were the first enemy Japs I had been able to examine at close quarters, and I was astonished at the extraordinary resemblance to current caricatures of them -- little evil blustering spectacled popinjays with huge ears, projecting front teeth, and toothbrush moustaches, wearing high-peaked jockey caps and untidy uniforms."
+1 for "popinjays".
"These were the first enemy Japs I had been able to examine at close quarters, and I was astonished at the extraordinary resemblance to current caricatures of them -- little evil blustering spectacled popinjays with huge ears, projecting front teeth, and toothbrush moustaches, wearing high-peaked jockey caps and untidy uniforms."
+1 for "popinjays".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 08:58 AM (JxMDl)
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Based on recommendations here, I'm reading The Jungle is Neutral, British professor F. Spencer Chapman's account of how he stayed behind when the Japs overran Malaya and Singapore to spend four years in the jungle organizing his own guerilla army of the locals to harass and befuddle the invaders. Before the Japs captured the city, he drove out of Singapore in a big ass Pontiac loaded with plastique and assorted toys. After the war he returned to teaching.
Earlier this week a light bulb went off and I thought he must have been the inspiration for Jack Hawkins' wonderful Major Warden in Bridge on the River Kwai -- the Oxford don turned crazed commando, but couldn't find any official attribution.
So I saw Kwai on TCM yesterday and there's a minor uncredited role for a Brit named Chapman who gets killed when he lands in the trees in the parachute jump. Coincidence?
"With or without parachutes?"
Earlier this week a light bulb went off and I thought he must have been the inspiration for Jack Hawkins' wonderful Major Warden in Bridge on the River Kwai -- the Oxford don turned crazed commando, but couldn't find any official attribution.
So I saw Kwai on TCM yesterday and there's a minor uncredited role for a Brit named Chapman who gets killed when he lands in the trees in the parachute jump. Coincidence?
"With or without parachutes?"
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 17, 2018 08:58 AM (pV/54)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 17, 2018 08:58 AM (roQNm)
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I read Gallows Thief by Bernard Cornwell. In 1820 Captain Rider Sandman, hero of Waterloo, comes to London to find work. He returned from the war penniless, as his father gambled away the family fortune and then, unable to face his creditors, committed suicide. Captain Sandman is appointed by the Home Secretary to investigate the case of a condemned portrait painter convicted of murder. Rider must hurry and find the real killer, as he has only seven days to the hanging. This is a fast-paced, interesting mystery.
In his historical notes at the end, Cornwell notes that this was a period of many hangings in England and Wales, and although rare, investigators were appointed after a conviction to look further into the case.
In his historical notes at the end, Cornwell notes that this was a period of many hangings in England and Wales, and although rare, investigators were appointed after a conviction to look further into the case.
Posted by: Zoltan at June 17, 2018 08:59 AM (HLy+M)
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Stevens' Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment and UNIX Network Programming spotted. Nerdbrary confirmed!
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 08:59 AM (fZuhk)
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Good morning!
Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 09:00 AM (hyuyC)
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I'm just about finished with The Postmaster by Joseph C. Lincoln. It's a 1912 humorous novel based on Cape Cod life. Later, we're going to a used book store in Orleans, see what else we can dig up.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 17, 2018 09:00 AM (l14X/)
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I found a copy of Eric Blair's "Why I Write" while traveling in my AO.
It contains writings from 1931 to 1946, short snippets of things on his mind and lots of socialist clap trap, how to beat Hitler, and what is wrong and right about England.
Not much has changed from what I read.
"A Hanging" is included from his days in Burma and is a good short read.
"Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind."
It contains writings from 1931 to 1946, short snippets of things on his mind and lots of socialist clap trap, how to beat Hitler, and what is wrong and right about England.
Not much has changed from what I read.
"A Hanging" is included from his days in Burma and is a good short read.
"Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind."
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2018 09:01 AM (EoRCO)
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I like Friz's artwork -- stuffed lizards and Han in carbonite.
Do I see Jaynes volumes on top of the bookcase on the right?
Do I see Jaynes volumes on top of the bookcase on the right?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 09:01 AM (JxMDl)
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Anyone besides me ever read 'How the World Was One' by Arthur C. Clarke? It's a history of the first transatlantic undersea cables.
Posted by: Weasel at June 17, 2018 09:02 AM (MVjcR)
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A book tour with Bill Clinton ... in San Antonio? Well, I'll be ...
Not that I would have gone to the event. It was at the Tobin Center for the Performing Arts, not at a book store. More of a lecture tour, than a book-signing event.
For me - busy this week, doing stuff for the house, and slogging through Minette Walter's latest - the Last Hours. (Advance copy from Amazon Vine.) So far, not terribly impressed. All too perfect quasi-modern heroine, and a bunch of meh-to-obnoxious supporting characters. I sneaked a look at the end - it's "to be continued" after 541 pages. I swear, the big best-selling authors these days must be paid by the pound.
Not that I would have gone to the event. It was at the Tobin Center for the Performing Arts, not at a book store. More of a lecture tour, than a book-signing event.
For me - busy this week, doing stuff for the house, and slogging through Minette Walter's latest - the Last Hours. (Advance copy from Amazon Vine.) So far, not terribly impressed. All too perfect quasi-modern heroine, and a bunch of meh-to-obnoxious supporting characters. I sneaked a look at the end - it's "to be continued" after 541 pages. I swear, the big best-selling authors these days must be paid by the pound.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at June 17, 2018 09:04 AM (xnmPy)
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I swear, I'm gonna finish God Emperor of Dune this week.
A review of God Emperor of Dune in song:
*clears throat*
*sings*
Grow little God Worm fatter, fatter
Put more melange upon your platter
You were once Leto Atreides
Now you're wormy and rough on the ladies
You will be assassinated
Dissolved in water - You been Kool-aided
But you were following the Golden Path
Thanks Leto for all the laughs
*bows*
*exits stage right*
A review of God Emperor of Dune in song:
*clears throat*
*sings*
Grow little God Worm fatter, fatter
Put more melange upon your platter
You were once Leto Atreides
Now you're wormy and rough on the ladies
You will be assassinated
Dissolved in water - You been Kool-aided
But you were following the Golden Path
Thanks Leto for all the laughs
*bows*
*exits stage right*
Posted by: naturalfake at June 17, 2018 09:06 AM (9q7Dl)
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Good Sunday morning, horde!
I am still alternating between Standing at the Edge (moron author William Alan Webb) and Three Men in a Boat (Jerome K Jerome).
Enjoying both very much, but yard work has been encroaching on reading time.
I am still alternating between Standing at the Edge (moron author William Alan Webb) and Three Men in a Boat (Jerome K Jerome).
Enjoying both very much, but yard work has been encroaching on reading time.
Posted by: April at June 17, 2018 09:07 AM (e8PP1)
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I'm in trouble with my daughter .... again. She and my SIL
So what is it with women lovin Clinton? It is borderline worship and cultish. Not being mean to your daughter but another proof that Progs love to have a Dear Leader type they can follow to death.
So what is it with women lovin Clinton? It is borderline worship and cultish. Not being mean to your daughter but another proof that Progs love to have a Dear Leader type they can follow to death.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2018 09:07 AM (JFO2v)
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Still continuing to read La Grande Armée by Georges Blond (english translation edition). It is a history of the French Army during the Napoleonic Wars. I have justed started reading it and like it quite a bit. The book is various anecdotes rather than a simply description of battles so it's light on tactical details; Blond has a chatty, gossipy style that gives the reader an excellent impression of the contemporary French attitudes.
I've gotten to the aftermath of the capitulation of a French corps at Baylen (180
. Blond essentially blames the "Spanish Ulcer" on machinations by Murat while he was scheming to try to become King of Spain. As bad as the fighting was elsewhere, Spain was a horror-show.
I've gotten to the aftermath of the capitulation of a French corps at Baylen (180
. Blond essentially blames the "Spanish Ulcer" on machinations by Murat while he was scheming to try to become King of Spain. As bad as the fighting was elsewhere, Spain was a horror-show.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 09:07 AM (5Yee7)
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I wouldn't cross the street to see Bubba and cannot fathom anyone paying for it. sheesh.
Posted by: freaked at June 17, 2018 09:07 AM (UdKB7)
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I swear, I'm gonna finish God Emperor of Dune this week.
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He dies a painful death, but that is not the end of the story.
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He dies a painful death, but that is not the end of the story.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 17, 2018 09:08 AM (roQNm)
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I'm finally in!
frontpage is taking forever to load on my kindle fire since last night.
HAPPY FATHERS' DAY TO OM and all the Moron Dads!!!
I also have a father's day post on bookhorde with the latest blacklisted kids book.
frontpage is taking forever to load on my kindle fire since last night.
HAPPY FATHERS' DAY TO OM and all the Moron Dads!!!
I also have a father's day post on bookhorde with the latest blacklisted kids book.
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at June 17, 2018 09:08 AM (hMwEB)
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I also read The Age of the Spiritual Machines: When Computers Exceed Human Intelligence by Ray Kurzweil. Kurzweil is a furturist and inventor currently working for Google Inc. He published this in 1999. Kurzweil gives a brief history of computing and then makes predictions of the future of AI. While his predictions are a bit optimistic with regard to the time frame of most of the achievements, the achievements themselves are plausible and on the near horizon. Kurzweil doesn't seem to fear a machine takeover. Rather he sees a blending of human and machine with brain enhancement implants. A very interesting book.
Posted by: Zoltan at June 17, 2018 09:08 AM (HLy+M)
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I received my copy of "Marked for Death" on Friday. As discussed in last week's Book Thread, it's about WWI aerial combat. I'm looking forward to reading it.
I bought a remaindered hardcover online, and it came with a note which read in part:
"Bellwether Books has made every effort to inspect each book prior to shipment to ensure there are no markings and/or inscriptions of an offensive nature in the book you have purchased."
I know that used books sometimes have underlined or highlighted passages, and sometimes a book will be signed by the author with a personal note to the buyer.
An autographed book is generally considered to be a good thing. I've never heard of a book having "an inscription of an offensive nature". Are the snowflakes suing used book sellers now?
I bought a remaindered hardcover online, and it came with a note which read in part:
"Bellwether Books has made every effort to inspect each book prior to shipment to ensure there are no markings and/or inscriptions of an offensive nature in the book you have purchased."
I know that used books sometimes have underlined or highlighted passages, and sometimes a book will be signed by the author with a personal note to the buyer.
An autographed book is generally considered to be a good thing. I've never heard of a book having "an inscription of an offensive nature". Are the snowflakes suing used book sellers now?
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 09:08 AM (sdi6R)
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Anyone besides me ever read 'How the World Was One' by Arthur C. Clarke? It's a history of the first transatlantic undersea cables.
Posted by: Weasel at June 17, 2018 09:02 AM (MVjcR)
I haven't, but that sounds very familiar. Neal Stephenson wrote a ~20 page article 20 years ago for Wired that is about half contemporary (ca. 1996) intercontinental fiber industry and half how we got here from there. He mentions it in the article.
https://www.wired.com/1996/12/ffglass/
Posted by: Weasel at June 17, 2018 09:02 AM (MVjcR)
I haven't, but that sounds very familiar. Neal Stephenson wrote a ~20 page article 20 years ago for Wired that is about half contemporary (ca. 1996) intercontinental fiber industry and half how we got here from there. He mentions it in the article.
https://www.wired.com/1996/12/ffglass/
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 09:08 AM (fZuhk)
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To BLUTHER is to smear or blot ink while writing.
*********
BLUTHER - a limerick
A legal assistant named Shaw
Got fired for a transcription flaw
His boss said "Good Grief""
"You've smeared all my briefs
Dammit, no one likes a Bluther-in-law!
To BLUTHER is to smear or blot ink while writing.
*********
BLUTHER - a limerick
A legal assistant named Shaw
Got fired for a transcription flaw
His boss said "Good Grief""
"You've smeared all my briefs
Dammit, no one likes a Bluther-in-law!
Posted by: Muldoon at June 17, 2018 09:08 AM (m45I2)
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We, now that Mr. Clinton has set the price, I would imagine Mr. Obama (spit unto his name) will think he's worth quite a bit more.
And, knowing his devoted followers, Mr. Obama will probably get it.
And, knowing his devoted followers, Mr. Obama will probably get it.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 17, 2018 09:09 AM (WEBkv)
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very good naturalfake. now can you do it falsetto?
Posted by: freaked at June 17, 2018 09:09 AM (UdKB7)
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Still plowing though Modern Times: A History of the World from the 1920s to the 1980s by Paul Johnson.
His observations on African decolonization are fascinating. I knew it was bloody and incoherent, but the scale of bloodshed, especially in Algeria, was larger than expected.
He has spot-on and germane comments on why African countries failed as nation-states. We had a lively ONT discussion on this very topic.
The underlying premise of violence used to shift control of African countries to evil people is to kill the moderates, lead to police over-reaction, and then corrupt the institutions until surrender is the best option. It takes a lot of deaths.
And. it. does. not. work. Ever.
His observations on African decolonization are fascinating. I knew it was bloody and incoherent, but the scale of bloodshed, especially in Algeria, was larger than expected.
He has spot-on and germane comments on why African countries failed as nation-states. We had a lively ONT discussion on this very topic.
The underlying premise of violence used to shift control of African countries to evil people is to kill the moderates, lead to police over-reaction, and then corrupt the institutions until surrender is the best option. It takes a lot of deaths.
And. it. does. not. work. Ever.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 09:10 AM (hyuyC)
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I was once surrounded by bookcases, but I moved long distance recently and had to give up many books. Enjoy them while you have them.
Posted by: Smilin Jack at June 17, 2018 09:10 AM (/1AIY)
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Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at June 17, 2018 09:08 AM (hMwEB)
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Link is in VM's Nic and it looks great.
Thanks, Votermom!
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at June 17, 2018 09:08 AM (hMwEB)
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Link is in VM's Nic and it looks great.
Thanks, Votermom!
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 17, 2018 09:11 AM (WEBkv)
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Clinton imposing a $60 ticket price to his book signing and nubile young female prospecting is intended to weed out the merely curious and ensure that only true believers show up.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 17, 2018 09:12 AM (roQNm)
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Re: the Clinton fundraiser - no, I never heard of anyone ever charging to attend a book signing/appearance by any author, except the occasions with well known authors where the venue requires purchasing the book from them in advance, no bringing your own copies. I was lucky to have anyone even attend my events, perhaps I should have publicized my sordid past and charged an outrageous fee, too. Except that, compared to the Clintons, I don't have much of a sordid past....
Posted by: John the Baptist at June 17, 2018 09:12 AM (MPH+3)
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An autographed book is generally considered to be a good thing. I've never heard of a book having "an inscription of an offensive nature". Are the snowflakes suing used book sellers now?
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 09:08 AM (sdi6R)
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If you buy a vintage McGuffey's Reader, ya gotta expect the occasional dick drawing.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 09:08 AM (sdi6R)
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If you buy a vintage McGuffey's Reader, ya gotta expect the occasional dick drawing.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 09:12 AM (JxMDl)
Posted by: freaked at June 17, 2018 09:13 AM (UdKB7)
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Misapplication of the Churchs teachings by our Pope and, unsurprisingly, the media on immigration lead me to purchase The Catholic Peoples Encyclopedia. Scored a very good 1965 copy of the three volumes for $8.
Yep, just as I thought I remembered - controlled, deliberate and legal immigration is to be encouraged. Other kinds, not so much. Legal immigrants are to adopt the customs and rules of their adoptive lands.
Huh - whoda thought?
Theres about 1000 pages here - its gonna take me awhile.
Yep, just as I thought I remembered - controlled, deliberate and legal immigration is to be encouraged. Other kinds, not so much. Legal immigrants are to adopt the customs and rules of their adoptive lands.
Huh - whoda thought?
Theres about 1000 pages here - its gonna take me awhile.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 09:14 AM (9rIkM)
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I recently started the Garrett P.I. series by Glenn Cook. Not quite as good as his classic Black Company books, but an interesting combo of classic detective/noir tropes and fantasy trappings. Scratches a bit of the sane itch as the Dresden Files while I wait for Butcher to finally get his next book out.
Posted by: Andrew VanOrden at June 17, 2018 09:14 AM (ARdZH)
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If people handed me money like they shovel it at the grifter Clintons, I would be grifting my buns off 24/7. Bushel baskets, front end loaders, etc...
Posted by: Burger Chef at June 17, 2018 09:14 AM (RuIsu)
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All Hail Eris,
Thanks for voicing you thoughts yesterday.
You and Hrothgar both put my mind at ease.
I had been thinking I had done something wrong an offended someone I truly didn't want thinking less of me.
Hopefully I'll run across Hrothger soon so I can thank him also.
I will have to straighten him out on that "fame" thing though.
While I truly think my friend's songwriting is "deserving," none of us have any illusions about that happening,,, or would want it.
Substitute fun in it's place and,,, nailed it.
And now, **sigh** time to go mow.
Thanks for voicing you thoughts yesterday.
You and Hrothgar both put my mind at ease.
I had been thinking I had done something wrong an offended someone I truly didn't want thinking less of me.
Hopefully I'll run across Hrothger soon so I can thank him also.
I will have to straighten him out on that "fame" thing though.
While I truly think my friend's songwriting is "deserving," none of us have any illusions about that happening,,, or would want it.
Substitute fun in it's place and,,, nailed it.
And now, **sigh** time to go mow.
Posted by: teej at June 17, 2018 09:15 AM (yBWAd)
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304 I'm in trouble with my daughter .... again.
She and my SIL went to last night's 'book tour' event in San Antonio for Bill Clinton's alleged book. ...[and] learned they'd paid $60 dollars each to attend. I was appalled.
I told them I've attended well over 2 dozen book tour events in my life and NEVER paid a dime....
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (5fkET)
The Clintons have been venal, grasping, sociopathic grifters for as long as I can remember since they intruded into national politics in the 1990s. Well the Donks lurve them somes Clintons, all because they mouth the Lefty platitudes even though they mean none of it. Just more proof that rank-and-file Lefties are motivated by emotion and desires rather than logic.
She and my SIL went to last night's 'book tour' event in San Antonio for Bill Clinton's alleged book. ...[and] learned they'd paid $60 dollars each to attend. I was appalled.
I told them I've attended well over 2 dozen book tour events in my life and NEVER paid a dime....
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (5fkET)
The Clintons have been venal, grasping, sociopathic grifters for as long as I can remember since they intruded into national politics in the 1990s. Well the Donks lurve them somes Clintons, all because they mouth the Lefty platitudes even though they mean none of it. Just more proof that rank-and-file Lefties are motivated by emotion and desires rather than logic.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 09:15 AM (5Yee7)
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I finished "The Narrative" this last week.
Amusing read and I do recommend it.
Unfortunately, my ability to blurb is failing me.
More coffee!
Amusing read and I do recommend it.
Unfortunately, my ability to blurb is failing me.
More coffee!
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 17, 2018 09:15 AM (WEBkv)
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10 TJM, WHY are you reading God Emperor of Dune?? I took a bullet so you wouldn't have to!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 08:56 AM (JxMDl)
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I started it months ago.
And gosh darn it, I'm gonna finish it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 08:56 AM (JxMDl)
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I started it months ago.
And gosh darn it, I'm gonna finish it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at June 17, 2018 09:16 AM (Jj43a)
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Good morning fellow Book Threadists and happy fathers day to the Horde. Hope everyone had an enjoyable week of reading.
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 09:17 AM (V+03K)
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oh bluth....er
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I my never ending quest to learn Latin, I buy a lot of children's books in latin like Winnie Ille Pu. Accordingly, Amazon is always sending me alerts about new children's books. They must think I'm six years old with a credit card.
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I my never ending quest to learn Latin, I buy a lot of children's books in latin like Winnie Ille Pu. Accordingly, Amazon is always sending me alerts about new children's books. They must think I'm six years old with a credit card.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 09:17 AM (+y/Ru)
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Much more surprising to me than the $60 charge for Clinton's book event (it's the Clintons, after all) is that people are still walking around not only not disgusted by them but buying their act.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 17, 2018 09:17 AM (H8QX8)
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Awesome library Fitzworth. I particularly like the "Banzai Research Institute" sign in true institutional form factor.
Posted by: motionview at June 17, 2018 09:18 AM (pYQR/)
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Regarding 'these pants'. Now I know why they warned about the brown acid at Woodstock. It reduces a girl's breast size and makes them act like a bigger fool than usual. So sad.
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 09:18 AM (V+03K)
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I might pay $60 for the chance to tell Clinton to his face that I think he's a piece of shit.
Posted by: Weasel at June 17, 2018 09:19 AM (MVjcR)
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She and my SIL went to last night's 'book tour' event in San Antonio for Bill Clinton's alleged book. ...[and] learned they'd paid $60 dollars each to attend.
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Old and busted: Jesus heals with a touch
New hotness: Clintons but the touch on you
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Old and busted: Jesus heals with a touch
New hotness: Clintons but the touch on you
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 09:20 AM (+y/Ru)
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Except that, compared to the Clintons, I don't have much of a sordid past....
Posted by: John the Baptist at June 17, 2018 09:12 AM (MPH+3)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: John the Baptist at June 17, 2018 09:12 AM (MPH+3)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Edward Teach at June 17, 2018 09:20 AM (jp0Bv)
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Grow little God Worm fatter, fatter
Put more melange upon your platter
You were once Leto Atreides
Now you're wormy and rough on the ladies
You will be assassinated
Dissolved in water - You been Kool-aided
But you were following the Golden Path
Thanks Leto for all the laughs
*bows*
*exits stage right*
Golf Clap!
You know, if you inscribe that on the leaf of your copy of G.E. of Dune, I wonder if that would be "an inscription of an offensive nature".
Grow little God Worm fatter, fatter
Put more melange upon your platter
You were once Leto Atreides
Now you're wormy and rough on the ladies
You will be assassinated
Dissolved in water - You been Kool-aided
But you were following the Golden Path
Thanks Leto for all the laughs
*bows*
*exits stage right*
Golf Clap!
You know, if you inscribe that on the leaf of your copy of G.E. of Dune, I wonder if that would be "an inscription of an offensive nature".
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2018 09:21 AM (V2Yro)
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@27: Damn you Pixy, that should have been "(1808)
I keep forgetting about that "Smiley Face" shortcut.
I keep forgetting about that "Smiley Face" shortcut.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 09:22 AM (5Yee7)
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Good morning, bookies!
Posted by: RI Red at June 17, 2018 09:22 AM (QZRZG)
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Reading "This Kind of War", a detailed account of the Korean War. American soldiers were so woefully untrained and ill-equipped that the North nearly pushed them into the sea.
Posted by: Smilin Jack at June 17, 2018 09:22 AM (/1AIY)
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During the first fifty years of the twentieth century, ham radio went from being an experiment to virtually an art form.
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With Alarming Frequency - a limerick
In Zurich a radio guy
Transmitted jokes on the sly
I'm sure you've heard the rumor
I've a twisted sense of humor
Ham...Swiss...Wry
During the first fifty years of the twentieth century, ham radio went from being an experiment to virtually an art form.
*************
With Alarming Frequency - a limerick
In Zurich a radio guy
Transmitted jokes on the sly
I'm sure you've heard the rumor
I've a twisted sense of humor
Ham...Swiss...Wry
Posted by: Muldoon at June 17, 2018 09:24 AM (m45I2)
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Ive actually got a Bowditch navigation book! sweet, not the only nerd.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at June 17, 2018 09:25 AM (qE08n)
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19 I'm just about finished with The Postmaster by Joseph C. Lincoln. It's a 1912 humorous novel based on Cape Cod life. Later, we're going to a used book store in Orleans, see what else we can dig up.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 17, 2018 09:00 AM (l14X/)
Haven't read that one, but his Cape Cod Stories is great. I was just looking for it; want to read it again.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 17, 2018 09:00 AM (l14X/)
Haven't read that one, but his Cape Cod Stories is great. I was just looking for it; want to read it again.
Posted by: George LeS at June 17, 2018 09:25 AM (59GGI)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 09:26 AM (+y/Ru)
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"I might pay $60 for the chance to tell Clinton to his face that I think he's a piece of shit."
You give me $60.00 cash, and you can call me bad names for one hour straight.
Of course we offer the weekend pass for $250.00.
You give me $60.00 cash, and you can call me bad names for one hour straight.
Of course we offer the weekend pass for $250.00.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 17, 2018 09:26 AM (EyPfd)
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Because of the few government restrictions and the low monetary investment required, the concept of ham radio appealed to various people...
...including Deep State conspirators looking to avoid surveillance.
Nellie Ohr, wife of demoted FBI deputy Director Bruce Ohr, worked for Fusion GPS during the time the Trump dossier was created. Bruce Ohr was demoted for hiding his relationship with Fusion GPS and Trump dossier author Steele. Sixty-year-old Nellie just happened to apply for a HAM radio license one month after Fusion got the gig to create the Trump dossier.
...including Deep State conspirators looking to avoid surveillance.
Nellie Ohr, wife of demoted FBI deputy Director Bruce Ohr, worked for Fusion GPS during the time the Trump dossier was created. Bruce Ohr was demoted for hiding his relationship with Fusion GPS and Trump dossier author Steele. Sixty-year-old Nellie just happened to apply for a HAM radio license one month after Fusion got the gig to create the Trump dossier.
Posted by: cool breeze at June 17, 2018 09:26 AM (UGKMd)
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If you want a solid read about the Korean War I can't recommend "The Last Stand of Fox Company" by Drury and Clavin strongly enough.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 09:27 AM (KsOxJ)
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Ive actually got a Bowditch navigation book! sweet, not the only nerd.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot
Ditto. One day I'd love to learn to use it effectively.
Ive actually got a Bowditch navigation book! sweet, not the only nerd.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot
Ditto. One day I'd love to learn to use it effectively.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 09:28 AM (9rIkM)
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I logged in to goodreads this morning, and found a couple of curiosities.
1) A notification urging me to follow Sarah Jessica Parker and be inspired to read "more" from her latest book picks. Pretty sure I've not read "any" from her book picks, but I refuse to click it to see.
2) A certain "Jennifer" from Brooklyn, NY, is following my reviews, and goodreads suggests that I follow her back. She has two books on her shelf, and her "about me" is written in Cyrillic. Am I paranoid to think she's a Democrat spy?
1) A notification urging me to follow Sarah Jessica Parker and be inspired to read "more" from her latest book picks. Pretty sure I've not read "any" from her book picks, but I refuse to click it to see.
2) A certain "Jennifer" from Brooklyn, NY, is following my reviews, and goodreads suggests that I follow her back. She has two books on her shelf, and her "about me" is written in Cyrillic. Am I paranoid to think she's a Democrat spy?
Posted by: April at June 17, 2018 09:28 AM (e8PP1)
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7 Needs more dust and cat hair.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2018 08:55 AM (wszSn)
I got plenty I can send his way.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2018 08:55 AM (wszSn)
I got plenty I can send his way.
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 09:29 AM (ANIFC)
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Reading "This Kind of War", a detailed account of the Korean War. American soldiers were so woefully untrained and ill-equipped that the North nearly pushed them into the sea.
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I would quibble a little about that. I always thought it was numbers and surprise that pushed the 'UN' forces to the southern end of the Korean peninsula. McArthur landed at Inchon changed everything, and the 'UN' forces drove the North all the way back to the border with China. That's when China threw in a million or two starving troops whose only food supply was what they could find in 'UN' supply dumps when they were over run.
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I would quibble a little about that. I always thought it was numbers and surprise that pushed the 'UN' forces to the southern end of the Korean peninsula. McArthur landed at Inchon changed everything, and the 'UN' forces drove the North all the way back to the border with China. That's when China threw in a million or two starving troops whose only food supply was what they could find in 'UN' supply dumps when they were over run.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 17, 2018 09:29 AM (roQNm)
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At a Jordan Peterson event, there was a Q and A, and one of the anonymous questions was along the lines of "I was going to kill myself, why should I continue?". This guy eventually talked to Peterson, and the next day checked himself into a hospital.
The "intellectual dark web" really doesn't bunt on the most fiendishly difficult questions. I remember listening to one of Stefan Molyneux's long shows and I noted that his questions are the most difficult. It was a good enough opportunity to say something unlikable or forced to a vulnerable person. And it is an accomplishment to pull some kind of wisdom out of a stranger's despair.
The "intellectual dark web" really doesn't bunt on the most fiendishly difficult questions. I remember listening to one of Stefan Molyneux's long shows and I noted that his questions are the most difficult. It was a good enough opportunity to say something unlikable or forced to a vulnerable person. And it is an accomplishment to pull some kind of wisdom out of a stranger's despair.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 17, 2018 09:31 AM (rnAwa)
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Reading "This Kind of War", a detailed account of the Korean War. American soldiers were so woefully untrained and ill-equipped that the North nearly pushed them into the sea.
Posted by: Smilin Jack at June 17, 2018 09:22 AM (/1AIY)
The first U.S. forces to get to Korea were the occupation troops stationed in Japan. Most of them were inexperienced and you don't need a lot of heavy equipment to police a defeated nation. Most of the guys with combat experience had already been demobilized and were back in the States.
I believe it was Task Force Smith that got slaughtered; those guys pretty much had Garands, BARs and a few bazookas trying to hold off a metric fvkc-tonne of NORK T-34s.
Posted by: Smilin Jack at June 17, 2018 09:22 AM (/1AIY)
The first U.S. forces to get to Korea were the occupation troops stationed in Japan. Most of them were inexperienced and you don't need a lot of heavy equipment to police a defeated nation. Most of the guys with combat experience had already been demobilized and were back in the States.
I believe it was Task Force Smith that got slaughtered; those guys pretty much had Garands, BARs and a few bazookas trying to hold off a metric fvkc-tonne of NORK T-34s.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 09:32 AM (5Yee7)
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There's a new thing called Booktrack.
Booktrack is an immersive format that pairs traditional audiobook narration and complementary music. The tempo and rhythm of the score are in perfect harmony with the action and characters throughout the audiobook. Gently playing in the background, the music never overpowers or distracts from the narration so that listeners can enjoy every minute. When you purchase this Booktrack edition, you receive the exact narration as the traditional audiobook available, with the addition of music throughout.
I bought one, The Pendulum by Adam Hamdy, just to see what it's all about but I haven't begun to listen.
Booktrack is an immersive format that pairs traditional audiobook narration and complementary music. The tempo and rhythm of the score are in perfect harmony with the action and characters throughout the audiobook. Gently playing in the background, the music never overpowers or distracts from the narration so that listeners can enjoy every minute. When you purchase this Booktrack edition, you receive the exact narration as the traditional audiobook available, with the addition of music throughout.
I bought one, The Pendulum by Adam Hamdy, just to see what it's all about but I haven't begun to listen.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 09:34 AM (+y/Ru)
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Ive actually got a Bowditch navigation book! sweet, not the only nerd.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot
Ditto. One day I'd love to learn to use it effectively.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 09:28 AM (9rIkM)
I used a little. had to work out some geometry for the job. that stuff is pure wizardry.
Ive actually got a Bowditch navigation book! sweet, not the only nerd.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot
Ditto. One day I'd love to learn to use it effectively.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 09:28 AM (9rIkM)
I used a little. had to work out some geometry for the job. that stuff is pure wizardry.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at June 17, 2018 09:34 AM (qE08n)
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She has two books on her shelf, and her "about me" is written in Cyrillic. Am I paranoid to think she's a Democrat spy?
Posted by: April at June 17, 2018 09:28 AM (e8PP1)
Little bit, maybe. Sometimes an offshore spambot is just an offshore spambot. I think Lincoln once said that, paraphrasing Nietzsche.
Posted by: April at June 17, 2018 09:28 AM (e8PP1)
Little bit, maybe. Sometimes an offshore spambot is just an offshore spambot. I think Lincoln once said that, paraphrasing Nietzsche.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 09:34 AM (fZuhk)
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I'd pay $60 to be part of Slick's firing squad or administer a public whipping that turned his flesh to ribbons. Otherwise I wouldn't cross the street to encounter that barely ambulatory piece of trash.
I've been reading Catherine Merridale's Lenin on the Train about how the fucking Krauts facilitated that commie pile of shit to travel across their country from Zurich during WW1 to Petrograd to spearhead the budding revolution in a particularly dense bit of wartime dumbfuckery. I was going through one of my bookshelves and found a copy of Solzhenitsyn's Lenin in Zurich and decided to read that as background material. When I was reading Goodread reviews I ran across one negative one claiming that Solzhenitsyn's prior imprisonment made him too negative toward Volodya. Well maybe that's because Lenin was a malignant piece of shit who richly deserved every bit of invective tossed his way. He pretty much hated everyone, which I can kind of relate to, and was a manipulative liar who always was relentlessly pushing groups he was addressing to the left (sound familiar?). One things fucking A well for sure: it was a major clusterfuck to facilitate him traveling to Russia, which we're arguably still paying for today. Assholes and fuckheads, the lot of 'em.
I've been reading Catherine Merridale's Lenin on the Train about how the fucking Krauts facilitated that commie pile of shit to travel across their country from Zurich during WW1 to Petrograd to spearhead the budding revolution in a particularly dense bit of wartime dumbfuckery. I was going through one of my bookshelves and found a copy of Solzhenitsyn's Lenin in Zurich and decided to read that as background material. When I was reading Goodread reviews I ran across one negative one claiming that Solzhenitsyn's prior imprisonment made him too negative toward Volodya. Well maybe that's because Lenin was a malignant piece of shit who richly deserved every bit of invective tossed his way. He pretty much hated everyone, which I can kind of relate to, and was a manipulative liar who always was relentlessly pushing groups he was addressing to the left (sound familiar?). One things fucking A well for sure: it was a major clusterfuck to facilitate him traveling to Russia, which we're arguably still paying for today. Assholes and fuckheads, the lot of 'em.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 17, 2018 09:34 AM (y7DUB)
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If you want a solid read about the Korean War I can't recommend "The Last Stand of Fox Company" by Drury and Clavin strongly enough.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 09:27 AM (KsOxJ)
Concur, that's a great book. Read it because of a recommendation on the Book Thread and definitely wasn't disappointed.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 09:27 AM (KsOxJ)
Concur, that's a great book. Read it because of a recommendation on the Book Thread and definitely wasn't disappointed.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 09:35 AM (5Yee7)
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I have a story I'm submitting for Appalling stories.
Would welcome a moron beta reader.
Would welcome a moron beta reader.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 17, 2018 09:35 AM (1L68Q)
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Garands, BARs and a few bazookas trying to hold off a metric fvkc-tonne of NORK T-34s.
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That would be Russian T-34s gifted to North Korea and crewed by North Koreans.
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That would be Russian T-34s gifted to North Korea and crewed by North Koreans.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 17, 2018 09:35 AM (roQNm)
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O/T but... gotta remind myself to stay off FB unless I'm talking to my (overseas) kids. The latest Two Minute Hate is that Trump is keeping poor little brown children in 'prison camps'... JUST LIKE THE NAZIS.
Christ in Heaven... and they wonder why Pinochet fired up the helicopters.
Christ in Heaven... and they wonder why Pinochet fired up the helicopters.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 17, 2018 09:36 AM (W+kMI)
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In Zurich a radio guy
Transmitted jokes on the sly
I'm sure you've heard the rumor
I've a twisted sense of humor
Ham...Swiss...Wry
Nice, Muldoon. This is among my favorites!
Transmitted jokes on the sly
I'm sure you've heard the rumor
I've a twisted sense of humor
Ham...Swiss...Wry
Nice, Muldoon. This is among my favorites!
Posted by: April at June 17, 2018 09:36 AM (e8PP1)
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Those Arkansas whores will not go away.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 17, 2018 09:36 AM (rnAwa)
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I'm working my way through the book The Art of Contrary Thinking by Humphrey B. Neill.
As I've been reading I'm struck by the fact the Democrats and all left wing parties hate independent, or contrary, thinkers.
Left wing parties are the parties of mindlessness and slavery. People who think things through and come to independent conclusion are anathema to them.
Hence the mindless hatred of Donald Trump, without the slightest evidence of any actual thought.
As I've been reading I'm struck by the fact the Democrats and all left wing parties hate independent, or contrary, thinkers.
Left wing parties are the parties of mindlessness and slavery. People who think things through and come to independent conclusion are anathema to them.
Hence the mindless hatred of Donald Trump, without the slightest evidence of any actual thought.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at June 17, 2018 09:36 AM (nBr1j)
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Matt "Guitar" Murphy, best known as one of the stalwarts of the Blues Brothers Band and a renowned sideman with Howlin' Wolf, Memphis Slim, Muddy Waters, James Cotton and many others, has died. He was 88 and his death was confirmed by his nephew, Floyd Murphy Jr., on Facebook.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 09:37 AM (+y/Ru)
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So what is it with women lovin Clinton?
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Chicks dig bad boys.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 09:26 AM (+y/Ru)
Putzes too, apparently.
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Chicks dig bad boys.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 09:26 AM (+y/Ru)
Putzes too, apparently.
Posted by: BignJames at June 17, 2018 09:37 AM (0+nbW)
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I received "Poltava: The Battle That Shook Europe" from B&N this week, about the Battle of Poltava, during the Great Northern War, which marked the unofficial birth of Russia as a major player on the world stage.
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 09:37 AM (ANIFC)
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Reading "This Kind of War", a detailed account of the Korean War.
Highly recommended. I shouldn't have read it on Kindle, though, because I couldn't easily flip back to check a reference.
Also maps would have helped, as the Anglicization of many place names has changed. I'd be pretty sure he was talking about Chosin, but it would be written Chyung-sahn or something.
Highly recommended. I shouldn't have read it on Kindle, though, because I couldn't easily flip back to check a reference.
Also maps would have helped, as the Anglicization of many place names has changed. I'd be pretty sure he was talking about Chosin, but it would be written Chyung-sahn or something.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 09:37 AM (fuK7c)
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George LeS, I just pulled up a list of Lincoln's books, hoping to find some at the bookstore. I think we own Cape Cod Stories, but I can't seem to find it.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 17, 2018 09:38 AM (l14X/)
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I mentioned on a random thread some while back that I recently made an order on amazon consisting of two books, a copy of a modern fairytale for 8-13 yo girls and a book on bowie knife fighting. It is going to be interesting to see what my advertisements are like from now on.
The fairytale is The Ordinary Princess," by M.M. Kaye, and is every bit as cute as I remembered. It is one of those modern stories in which the princess does not have to be rescued, but Kaye managed to write a story with a strong female lead which does not degrade or denigrate the male lead. I'm going to pass it along to a niece, I think.
The Bowie knife book is Dwight MacLemore's Bowie and Big Knife Fghting system," and is...interesting. It is basically his take on what a 19th century knife fight might have looked like, rather than an attempt to form a system for using a bowie knife today. Since there are no surviving fencing manuals for antebellum bowie knives, it based on certain techniques from other weapons like sabers and a lot of experimentation. If you are a historical martial arts with an interest in Early America, you might find it interesting (as well as his books on tomahawks, which I also own).
The fairytale is The Ordinary Princess," by M.M. Kaye, and is every bit as cute as I remembered. It is one of those modern stories in which the princess does not have to be rescued, but Kaye managed to write a story with a strong female lead which does not degrade or denigrate the male lead. I'm going to pass it along to a niece, I think.
The Bowie knife book is Dwight MacLemore's Bowie and Big Knife Fghting system," and is...interesting. It is basically his take on what a 19th century knife fight might have looked like, rather than an attempt to form a system for using a bowie knife today. Since there are no surviving fencing manuals for antebellum bowie knives, it based on certain techniques from other weapons like sabers and a lot of experimentation. If you are a historical martial arts with an interest in Early America, you might find it interesting (as well as his books on tomahawks, which I also own).
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 17, 2018 09:38 AM (bZ7mE)
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off italics
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 17, 2018 09:39 AM (bZ7mE)
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Lets see.
Got a copy of The American Practical Navigator, the 1958 edition from the U.S. Navy Hydrographic Office, with a lot of sticky notes pointing to needed pages.
Two copies of Dutton's Navigation and Piloting, 14th Edition by Maloney from the Naval Institute Press. And odds and sods of other nautical crutches, including a translated Soviet Watch Officer's Guide.
Got a copy of The American Practical Navigator, the 1958 edition from the U.S. Navy Hydrographic Office, with a lot of sticky notes pointing to needed pages.
Two copies of Dutton's Navigation and Piloting, 14th Edition by Maloney from the Naval Institute Press. And odds and sods of other nautical crutches, including a translated Soviet Watch Officer's Guide.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 09:39 AM (hyuyC)
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69 If you want a solid read about the Korean War I can't recommend "The Last Stand of Fox Company" by Drury and Clavin strongly enough.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 09:27 AM (KsOxJ)
Thanks for the info.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 09:27 AM (KsOxJ)
Thanks for the info.
Posted by: Smilin Jack at June 17, 2018 09:40 AM (/1AIY)
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I have a story I'm submitting for Appalling stories.
Would welcome a moron beta reader.
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I'll do it. Email in nick.
Would welcome a moron beta reader.
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I'll do it. Email in nick.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 09:40 AM (+y/Ru)
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One things fucking A well for sure: it was a major clusterfuck to facilitate him traveling to Russia, which we're arguably still paying for today. Assholes and fuckheads, the lot of 'em.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 17, 2018 09:34 AM (y7DUB)
I read somewhere that Russia doesn't get nearly enough credit for starting WWI in the first place. Apparently they mobilized first, which forced Germany's hand, and then we were off to the races.
One things fucking A well for sure: it was a major clusterfuck to facilitate him traveling to Russia, which we're arguably still paying for today. Assholes and fuckheads, the lot of 'em.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 17, 2018 09:34 AM (y7DUB)
I read somewhere that Russia doesn't get nearly enough credit for starting WWI in the first place. Apparently they mobilized first, which forced Germany's hand, and then we were off to the races.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 09:40 AM (sdi6R)
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Southpaws bluther quite a bit. I had a semi-permanent ink stain on my left pinky finger when I was in college due to dragging my hand across the page when I was taking notes in class. Could have been avoided if I had taken notes in Hebrew.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 17, 2018 09:40 AM (H80UQ)
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Since there are no surviving fencing manuals for antebellum bowie knives...
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 17, 2018 09:38 AM (bZ7mE)
The world is a lesser place for this.
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 17, 2018 09:38 AM (bZ7mE)
The world is a lesser place for this.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 09:41 AM (fZuhk)
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That would be Russian T-34s gifted to North Korea and crewed by North Koreans.
Fehrenbach says that the order for the original mass surprise attack was written in Russian.
Fehrenbach says that the order for the original mass surprise attack was written in Russian.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 09:41 AM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 17, 2018 09:41 AM (pV/54)
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As usual for his books, my #1 birthday present Norman Friedman's book on Victorian British Battleships, has been delayed. I don't know why, but I'm not sure any book of his has EVER been released on the scheduled pub date.
On the bright side, that led my wife and me to put in another order of books. One good thing happened. Unlike me, she is into true crime books. I'm a big fan of Bill James, and there was one of those "buy 3" offers they have. 2 were baseball, on on crime. Harmony in the household is good*.
But yesterday I saw something (didn't follow the link) about Amazon getting in bed with the SPLC. Is this another company I'll have to keep away from?
*I don't know if I've mentioned this here, but early in our marriage (decades ago) we had an agreement, when we'd buy books, to balance the purchases. We went into a newly opened used bookstore, with a set budget. I came across Adm. Jellicoe's 2nd volume, The Crisis of the Naval War. (She'd already given me The Grand Fleet on an earlier birthday.) But it was over what I was supposed to pay. I'm trying to figure out how to work this, when she came up to me, with 2 books in her hands, and a pleading look. The 2 books were the volumes of Julia Child, and they'd been annotated by a previous owner. So of course I said, "Sure, but can I have this one?"
Yes, it meant we had to tighten our belts until the next paycheck, but I got:
1. The Jellicoe book.
2. The great food.
3. Sweet indulgence brownie points.
Sometimes it all works.
On the bright side, that led my wife and me to put in another order of books. One good thing happened. Unlike me, she is into true crime books. I'm a big fan of Bill James, and there was one of those "buy 3" offers they have. 2 were baseball, on on crime. Harmony in the household is good*.
But yesterday I saw something (didn't follow the link) about Amazon getting in bed with the SPLC. Is this another company I'll have to keep away from?
*I don't know if I've mentioned this here, but early in our marriage (decades ago) we had an agreement, when we'd buy books, to balance the purchases. We went into a newly opened used bookstore, with a set budget. I came across Adm. Jellicoe's 2nd volume, The Crisis of the Naval War. (She'd already given me The Grand Fleet on an earlier birthday.) But it was over what I was supposed to pay. I'm trying to figure out how to work this, when she came up to me, with 2 books in her hands, and a pleading look. The 2 books were the volumes of Julia Child, and they'd been annotated by a previous owner. So of course I said, "Sure, but can I have this one?"
Yes, it meant we had to tighten our belts until the next paycheck, but I got:
1. The Jellicoe book.
2. The great food.
3. Sweet indulgence brownie points.
Sometimes it all works.
Posted by: George LeS at June 17, 2018 09:41 AM (59GGI)
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83 O/T but... gotta remind myself to stay off FB unless I'm talking to my (overseas) kids. The latest Two Minute Hate is that Trump is keeping poor little brown children in 'prison camps'... JUST LIKE THE NAZIS.
Christ in Heaven... and they wonder why Pinochet fired up the helicopters.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 17, 2018 09:36 AM (W+kMI)
Psycho Joe Scarborough actually said that because the kids are getting showers, that's just like the nazis sending people to the "showers."
Christ in Heaven... and they wonder why Pinochet fired up the helicopters.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 17, 2018 09:36 AM (W+kMI)
Psycho Joe Scarborough actually said that because the kids are getting showers, that's just like the nazis sending people to the "showers."
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 09:43 AM (ANIFC)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 09:43 AM (JxMDl)
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'how common is this? '
More common than you might think. I had to pay Bill Clinton $60 to meet him on the Tarmac.
And we were just discussing golf, grandkids and finding Seth Rich.
More common than you might think. I had to pay Bill Clinton $60 to meet him on the Tarmac.
And we were just discussing golf, grandkids and finding Seth Rich.
Posted by: Loretta Lynch, bystander at June 17, 2018 09:43 AM (Ndje9)
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Got a copy of The American Practical Navigator, the 1958 edition from the U.S. Navy Hydrographic Office, with a lot of sticky notes pointing to needed pages.
Two copies of Dutton's Navigation and Piloting, 14th Edition by Maloney from the Naval Institute Press. And odds and sods of other nautical crutches, including a translated Soviet Watch Officer's Guide.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 09:39 AM (hyuyC)
I'll bet $20 you've got a drawer full of brass Weems & Plath toys to go with them too, which is half of the fun right there.
Two copies of Dutton's Navigation and Piloting, 14th Edition by Maloney from the Naval Institute Press. And odds and sods of other nautical crutches, including a translated Soviet Watch Officer's Guide.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 09:39 AM (hyuyC)
I'll bet $20 you've got a drawer full of brass Weems & Plath toys to go with them too, which is half of the fun right there.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 09:43 AM (fZuhk)
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The Clintons may be hams on radio but they're hams on TV, too.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 09:45 AM (+y/Ru)
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OM, Thanks for the Book Thread, as always. And for the Ham radio history reference. I just ordered it. We've done our share of emergency communications over the years: searching for a lost child, covering a local hospital's departments when their phone system failed, helping coordinate supplies at the Pentagon search and rescue efforts after 9/11. It's not as critical, usually, now with cell phones and the internet available but there are still times when independent, self powered communications are needed.
And there is still kit building going on. As far as I know, it's mostly for QRP (low power) rigs and accessories.
And there is still kit building going on. As far as I know, it's mostly for QRP (low power) rigs and accessories.
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 09:45 AM (V+03K)
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Clinton imposing a $60 ticket price to his book signing and nubile young female prospecting is intended to weed out the merely curious and ensure that only true believers show up.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 17, 2018 09:12 AM (roQNm)
That's the difference between being elected President, and not being elected President.
Bill Clitton can charge $60 to have willing sows brought to him so he can befowl their clothing.
Joe Biden pays $60 for you to send him your wife and daughters, so he can feel them up.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 17, 2018 09:12 AM (roQNm)
That's the difference between being elected President, and not being elected President.
Bill Clitton can charge $60 to have willing sows brought to him so he can befowl their clothing.
Joe Biden pays $60 for you to send him your wife and daughters, so he can feel them up.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 09:47 AM (cY3LT)
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Didn't one of the parties in the FBI coup attempt get a ham radio license?
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 09:47 AM (ANIFC)
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It's not as critical, usually, now with cell phones and the internet available but there are still times when independent, self powered communications are needed.
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 09:45 AM (V+03K)
I used to have this on a T-shirt.
https://stoatnet.org/arrlyourefucked.png
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 09:45 AM (V+03K)
I used to have this on a T-shirt.
https://stoatnet.org/arrlyourefucked.png
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 09:47 AM (fZuhk)
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hogmartin
I'll take that bet. Not even a tent for sex.
The U.S. Navy owned all I used.
I do have my own parallel rulers and some good quality compares for plotting on a chart.
I'll take that bet. Not even a tent for sex.
The U.S. Navy owned all I used.
I do have my own parallel rulers and some good quality compares for plotting on a chart.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 09:48 AM (hyuyC)
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 09:48 AM (EEuOO)
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Mornin' bookies !
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Psycho Joe Scarborough actually said that because the kids are getting showers, that's just like the nazis sending people to the "showers."
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 09:43 AM (ANIFC)
I heard that on the radio yesterday and could hardly believe my ears. I guess he assumes his viewers are idiots, which is probably an accurate assumption.
Psycho Joe Scarborough actually said that because the kids are getting showers, that's just like the nazis sending people to the "showers."
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 09:43 AM (ANIFC)
I heard that on the radio yesterday and could hardly believe my ears. I guess he assumes his viewers are idiots, which is probably an accurate assumption.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 09:49 AM (sdi6R)
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Nice library Friz
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 09:49 AM (EEuOO)
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Speaking of books that got previously mentioned on the Book Thread, I read Soft Targets by Dean Ing. It was published in 1978 and was supposed to be a "futuristic" look at terrorism in the U.S. but got overtaken by events. It was a bit depressing to read because Ing's premise, the way to deal with terrorists is for the media to ridicule them as losers and not give their stated motivations any credence is valid, but we now know that most of the media are treasonous pieces of $h!t that hate America. I found the characters to be rather wooden and 1-dimensional and the main character in the novel is actually the main "jehadi" and I didn't really find it interesting but the way to deal with the terrorists is a good thought experiment. Rating = 3/5.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 09:50 AM (5Yee7)
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So what is it with women lovin Clinton? It is borderline worship and cultish. Not being mean to your daughter but another proof that Progs love to have a Dear Leader type they can follow to death.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2018 09:07 AM (JFO2v)
I have a theory. A woman's uterus is her auxiliary brain, using emotional algorithms instead of logical ones. That's why there is such thing as logic and female "logic". You know, "I bought twice as much so I saved $50!" "No, you paid $950 instead of $500. That is not saving." "But, it would have been $1000 for two without the special." "Do we need two Samovars?" "I was going to give one to the kids." Like I said, you wasted $450." (Sniffle)" You're mean!"
It also explains why women get so ditzy after menopause. Their auxiliary brain is not functioning at full capacity, so they are forced to use the regular brain more. Since they haven't had much practice, absurdity ensues. And you know how hard it is to learn new stuff when you get older.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2018 09:07 AM (JFO2v)
I have a theory. A woman's uterus is her auxiliary brain, using emotional algorithms instead of logical ones. That's why there is such thing as logic and female "logic". You know, "I bought twice as much so I saved $50!" "No, you paid $950 instead of $500. That is not saving." "But, it would have been $1000 for two without the special." "Do we need two Samovars?" "I was going to give one to the kids." Like I said, you wasted $450." (Sniffle)" You're mean!"
It also explains why women get so ditzy after menopause. Their auxiliary brain is not functioning at full capacity, so they are forced to use the regular brain more. Since they haven't had much practice, absurdity ensues. And you know how hard it is to learn new stuff when you get older.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 17, 2018 09:51 AM (9BLnV)
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The nerd alert blasting on my cell phone made me jump and I fudged the paint on my ogre miniature.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,
I hate it when that happens.
Posted by: All Hail Eris,
I hate it when that happens.
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 09:51 AM (EEuOO)
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I had a no fooling, not making this up, dream last night, I walked into what I thought was a used book store. The proprietor was friendly and happy to show me his wares, which included a rather large selection of baseball books, some oversized coffee table type books, which I was very interested in seeing.
One book in particular had colorized photos of St. Louis Cardinals, and I hadn't even cracked it open when I knew I had to have it.
The thing is though... the book was not for sale. It seemed, none of the books were for sale. The owner rather proudly showed me the receipt for the book, as I was being led to believe, I could look at it, here in the store, but could not take it out of the store, for no amount of money would be enough for me to purchase this book.
So... I think I was in hell.
One book in particular had colorized photos of St. Louis Cardinals, and I hadn't even cracked it open when I knew I had to have it.
The thing is though... the book was not for sale. It seemed, none of the books were for sale. The owner rather proudly showed me the receipt for the book, as I was being led to believe, I could look at it, here in the store, but could not take it out of the store, for no amount of money would be enough for me to purchase this book.
So... I think I was in hell.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 09:52 AM (cY3LT)
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The latest Two Minute Hate is that Trump is keeping poor little brown children in 'prison camps'... JUST LIKE THE NAZIS.
Christ in Heaven... and they wonder why Pinochet fired up the helicopters.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 17, 2018 09:36 AM (W+kMI)
Psycho Joe Scarborough actually said that because the kids are getting showers, that's just like the nazis sending people to the "showers."
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I tried to find the link to the article I read yesterday but couldn't. They get field trips to the zoo and the art museum etc. just like Auschwitz.
Christ in Heaven... and they wonder why Pinochet fired up the helicopters.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 17, 2018 09:36 AM (W+kMI)
Psycho Joe Scarborough actually said that because the kids are getting showers, that's just like the nazis sending people to the "showers."
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I tried to find the link to the article I read yesterday but couldn't. They get field trips to the zoo and the art museum etc. just like Auschwitz.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 09:53 AM (+y/Ru)
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$60 to see Bill Clinton signing books? They got off cheap. I read somewhere that Hillary charged $500 per ticket in Melbourne, Australia recently for an exclusive audience, and apparently it was a sellout.
What a bunch of losers paying $500 to see a loser who will never be president.
What a bunch of losers paying $500 to see a loser who will never be president.
Posted by: Decaf at June 17, 2018 09:54 AM (/3+Sg)
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It also explains why women get so ditzy after menopause. Their auxiliary brain is not functioning at full capacity, so they are forced to use the regular brain more. Since they haven't had much practice, absurdity ensues. And you know how hard it is to learn new stuff when you get older."
that's a pretty good theory - but lets not even get started on Men's auxiliary brain.
that's a pretty good theory - but lets not even get started on Men's auxiliary brain.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2018 09:54 AM (V2Yro)
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By the way, my comments about untrained Americans at the outset of the Korean War were not meant to fault the soldiers. They served their country as peacetime occupation forces and were not given the preparation for a war.
Posted by: Smilin Jack at June 17, 2018 09:55 AM (/1AIY)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 17, 2018 09:55 AM (1L68Q)
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I've read Lincoln's "Cape Cod Stories" although it's been a while. I recalll them being delightful.
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 09:55 AM (V+03K)
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Posted by: rhennigantx at June 17, 2018 09:07 AM (JFO2v)
I have a theory....
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 17, 2018 09:51 AM (9BLnV)
It's really simpler than all that. Women are biologically programmed to select strong, decisive mates.
Men who are forceful, in this culture, also tend to be jerks. So jerks get lots of women to swoon over them. They can be con artists, they can be abusers, they can be sex perverts who will fling their seed far and wide to as many willing dupes as they can find.
And nice guys get ignored.
Same way women of character get ignored, when a flashy hot broad who sill steal a dude's money and sleep with his best friend comes along.
Biology. It sux, but whatcha gonna do.
I have a theory....
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 17, 2018 09:51 AM (9BLnV)
It's really simpler than all that. Women are biologically programmed to select strong, decisive mates.
Men who are forceful, in this culture, also tend to be jerks. So jerks get lots of women to swoon over them. They can be con artists, they can be abusers, they can be sex perverts who will fling their seed far and wide to as many willing dupes as they can find.
And nice guys get ignored.
Same way women of character get ignored, when a flashy hot broad who sill steal a dude's money and sleep with his best friend comes along.
Biology. It sux, but whatcha gonna do.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 09:57 AM (cY3LT)
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"Didn't one of the parties in the FBI coup attempt get a ham radio license?"
And used it. But no intent.
And used it. But no intent.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 17, 2018 09:57 AM (pV/54)
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hogmartin
I was assistant navigator (the fusible link in any navigational oops) on my second ship.
What I really wanted was what equipped the Trump yacht (which we passed at sea in the Sargasso Sea area one time). A digital chart of the Eastern Seaboard and vicinity with a LORAN Charlie input feed to a Mac. I had my Mac SE, the ship had a LORAN Charlie, but alas, no digital charts or a weather fax.
We were surprisingly limited in our equipment. Old school indeed. Although my memories of the LORAN Charlie is that is should have been our second wave ASW weapon. Mark on top and dump it overboard.
I was assistant navigator (the fusible link in any navigational oops) on my second ship.
What I really wanted was what equipped the Trump yacht (which we passed at sea in the Sargasso Sea area one time). A digital chart of the Eastern Seaboard and vicinity with a LORAN Charlie input feed to a Mac. I had my Mac SE, the ship had a LORAN Charlie, but alas, no digital charts or a weather fax.
We were surprisingly limited in our equipment. Old school indeed. Although my memories of the LORAN Charlie is that is should have been our second wave ASW weapon. Mark on top and dump it overboard.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 09:58 AM (hyuyC)
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I read somewhere that Russia doesn't get nearly enough credit for starting WWI in the first place. Apparently they mobilized first, which forced Germany's hand, and then we were off to the races.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 09:40 AM (sdi6R)
Not sure about that but the war was extremely unpopular in Petrograd because of the shortages to the regular people while they still supported the troops. Lenin absolutely loved the war because it created chaos under which his revolution could thrive and openly badmouthed all peaceniks.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 09:40 AM (sdi6R)
Not sure about that but the war was extremely unpopular in Petrograd because of the shortages to the regular people while they still supported the troops. Lenin absolutely loved the war because it created chaos under which his revolution could thrive and openly badmouthed all peaceniks.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 17, 2018 09:58 AM (y7DUB)
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By the way, my comments about untrained Americans at the outset of the Korean War were not meant to fault the soldiers. They served their country as peacetime occupation forces and were not given the preparation for a war.
Posted by: Smilin Jack at June 17, 2018 09:55 AM
I can see the truth in that. The same could be said for Pearl Harbor, to an extent. Or 9/11. What the CIA guys did in Afghanistan, just after 9/11, was nothing short of amazing.
Posted by: Smilin Jack at June 17, 2018 09:55 AM
I can see the truth in that. The same could be said for Pearl Harbor, to an extent. Or 9/11. What the CIA guys did in Afghanistan, just after 9/11, was nothing short of amazing.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 17, 2018 09:59 AM (roQNm)
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Our local library, the Osterhaut, is having their 42nd annual book sale this week.
I wait for this sale. On the last day you can buy a bag for $1 or $5 and fill it up with books . A box is $10. They raise big bucks with the sale and you can unearth some gems if you have patience.
I wait for this sale. On the last day you can buy a bag for $1 or $5 and fill it up with books . A box is $10. They raise big bucks with the sale and you can unearth some gems if you have patience.
Posted by: mpfs, War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want. Wm T Sher at June 17, 2018 09:59 AM (Mjtwb)
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The thing is though... the book was not for sale.
It seemed, none of the books were for sale. The owner rather proudly
showed me the receipt for the book, as I was being led to believe, I
could look at it, here in the store, but could not take it out of the
store, for no amount of money would be enough for me to purchase this
book.
So... I think I was in hell.
Posted by: BurtTC
We all dream our fears.
It seemed, none of the books were for sale. The owner rather proudly
showed me the receipt for the book, as I was being led to believe, I
could look at it, here in the store, but could not take it out of the
store, for no amount of money would be enough for me to purchase this
book.
So... I think I was in hell.
Posted by: BurtTC
We all dream our fears.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 09:59 AM (9rIkM)
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Thank you to the Moron (ette) who recommended the Liturgical Mysteries by Mark Schweizer! I'm belly laughing through the first book 'The Alto Wore Tweed' and just love the characters introduced so far.
Posted by: LaughingOutLoud! at June 17, 2018 10:00 AM (jfpNK)
Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at June 17, 2018 10:02 AM (iiixZ)
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I was assistant navigator (the fusible link in any navigational oops) on my second ship.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 09:58 AM (hyuyC)
BZ on making ANAV. You're right, they're the QMiest of QMs. We had some cheats like the digital charts you mentioned, but everything still went into pencil on paper, especially chart prep. I think the inquiry found that real paper chart prep instead of reliance on digital charts would have prevented the San Fran grounding/collision.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 09:58 AM (hyuyC)
BZ on making ANAV. You're right, they're the QMiest of QMs. We had some cheats like the digital charts you mentioned, but everything still went into pencil on paper, especially chart prep. I think the inquiry found that real paper chart prep instead of reliance on digital charts would have prevented the San Fran grounding/collision.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 10:03 AM (fZuhk)
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It looks like Faleena Hopkins got far too cocky in her alleged cleverness to sell her stories. This just may make for a good romance novel now.
What am I talking about? It seems Cocky Gate has come to a legal end.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7md9ord
What am I talking about? It seems Cocky Gate has come to a legal end.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7md9ord
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 10:04 AM (KB4SV)
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Did not pay $60 to see Larry Correia several years ago when he was on tour. Did not pay $60 to go to Origins 2018 after they tossed him as a guest with less than a month out. Did buy paperback edition of Monster Hunter: Siege. It is mighty! Currently Owen Pitt and a Russki Monster-Hunter/Gangster are getting ready to fight a vodyanoy at 3 AM somewhere in Moscow.
For Father's Day I got Dad a scientific history book, The Legacy of the Mastodon: The Golden Age of Fossils in America. It shows the vast contribution American scientists played in the science of paleontology for the first 100+ years of the USA. About half of it is spent on proto-Morons Othniel C. Marsh and Edward Drinker Cope.
For Father's Day I got Dad a scientific history book, The Legacy of the Mastodon: The Golden Age of Fossils in America. It shows the vast contribution American scientists played in the science of paleontology for the first 100+ years of the USA. About half of it is spent on proto-Morons Othniel C. Marsh and Edward Drinker Cope.
Posted by: exdem13 at June 17, 2018 10:04 AM (W+kMI)
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Anon (and others) ... actually, for all our differences, my daughter has a not unreasonable head on her shoulders. The explanation of 'an opportunity to see and hear an ex-president' is valid from her point of view and she would likely have done the same for Bush.
My objection was that this was a 'book tour'. I taunted her and SIL with the point that when they purchased their new car the dealer didn't charge an admission to the show-room.
Had this been a lecture tour and they elected to go for the same reason I would have shrugged, figured it was their money and they could do with it as they damn well pleased. I've spent more money for less valid reasons.
My objection was that this was a 'book tour'. I taunted her and SIL with the point that when they purchased their new car the dealer didn't charge an admission to the show-room.
Had this been a lecture tour and they elected to go for the same reason I would have shrugged, figured it was their money and they could do with it as they damn well pleased. I've spent more money for less valid reasons.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 10:05 AM (KsOxJ)
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By the way, my comments about untrained Americans at the outset of the Korean War were not meant to fault the soldiers. They served their country as peacetime occupation forces and were not given the preparation for a war.
Posted by: Smilin Jack at June 17, 2018 09:55 AM (/1AIY)
I didn't take you comment that way, they were desperately tossed into harm's way and paid the price for the U.S. politicians ignoring military preparedness, yet again. That's pretty much a perennial problem for the U.S. armed forces; the only exception I can think of is Operation Desert Storm during the 1st Gulf War. Preparations to fight the Soviets in Germany paid huge dividends against the Iraqi military just about every piece of American military equipment out-classed the Soviet stuff that the Iraqis possessed.
Posted by: Smilin Jack at June 17, 2018 09:55 AM (/1AIY)
I didn't take you comment that way, they were desperately tossed into harm's way and paid the price for the U.S. politicians ignoring military preparedness, yet again. That's pretty much a perennial problem for the U.S. armed forces; the only exception I can think of is Operation Desert Storm during the 1st Gulf War. Preparations to fight the Soviets in Germany paid huge dividends against the Iraqi military just about every piece of American military equipment out-classed the Soviet stuff that the Iraqis possessed.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 10:05 AM (5Yee7)
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Asking the Horde mind, if anyone knows, how to preserve crumbling leather. For example, a leather wallet holding a great-uncle's Masonic papers. Some turn of last century leather-bound sets have crumbles as well. I have no idea how to even start.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 17, 2018 10:06 AM (MIKMs)
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I read somewhere that Russia doesn't get nearly enough credit for starting WWI in the first place. Apparently they mobilized first, which forced Germany's hand, and then we were off to the races.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 09:40 AM (sdi6R)
Oh, that is nowhere near a fair picture of what happened.
The Germans were itching for a fight, everyone knew it, and they made everyone damn sure they knew when the balloon went up, they were coming.
So here we were, everyone rattling swords, and the Germans letting the Austrians get all pissy over a stupid little nothing of a country, Serbia, which really had no more responsibility for killing the Archduke than any other country has responsibility for what its radicals are doing, and since Russia had no real choice in the matter, they HAD to mobilize to defend Serbia, because they had a treaty (remember those?). Austria was NOT going to let Serbia sign any sort of agreement that would have been even remotely acceptable for one nation to sign with another.
Why?
Because the big bad Germans were behind it all, egging Austria to do EXACTLY what was going to bring on a world war.
Russia was, if anything, a supremely unwilling victim in all of this.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 09:40 AM (sdi6R)
Oh, that is nowhere near a fair picture of what happened.
The Germans were itching for a fight, everyone knew it, and they made everyone damn sure they knew when the balloon went up, they were coming.
So here we were, everyone rattling swords, and the Germans letting the Austrians get all pissy over a stupid little nothing of a country, Serbia, which really had no more responsibility for killing the Archduke than any other country has responsibility for what its radicals are doing, and since Russia had no real choice in the matter, they HAD to mobilize to defend Serbia, because they had a treaty (remember those?). Austria was NOT going to let Serbia sign any sort of agreement that would have been even remotely acceptable for one nation to sign with another.
Why?
Because the big bad Germans were behind it all, egging Austria to do EXACTLY what was going to bring on a world war.
Russia was, if anything, a supremely unwilling victim in all of this.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 10:06 AM (cY3LT)
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Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 09:52 AM (cY3LT)
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Burt, I've had these delicious dreams where I wander around in the perfect book store and I can look at "real" (imaginary) books, take them down, ooh and ahh over the color plates and gold embossed covers, sit in leather chairs and read...and when I awaken I am near to tears when I realize it's only a dream.
Is is hell...or have I been afforded a glimpse of heaven?
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Burt, I've had these delicious dreams where I wander around in the perfect book store and I can look at "real" (imaginary) books, take them down, ooh and ahh over the color plates and gold embossed covers, sit in leather chairs and read...and when I awaken I am near to tears when I realize it's only a dream.
Is is hell...or have I been afforded a glimpse of heaven?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 10:06 AM (JxMDl)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 17, 2018 10:07 AM (rp9xB)
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Skandia: Thank you. We tried.
Posted by: One of Those Guys at June 17, 2018 10:07 AM (wTD0g)
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111 ... Hogmartin, Love that shirt. It says it all, with a smile.
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 10:07 AM (V+03K)
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Looks like my italics stop was unnecessary. Oh well.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 17, 2018 10:09 AM (rp9xB)
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 10:09 AM (fZuhk)
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Peasants. Books By The Foot is the way to go.
Posted by: Moochelle at June 17, 2018 10:09 AM (Y9uH4)
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hogmartin
Those liberty turns on the San Francisco for that port call in Australia almost lost the ship. Close. Too close.
Today I use that sailor's death to advantage on field trips, trying to get everyone in their seats. Inertia is not your friend at 65 mph in a school bus.
Those liberty turns on the San Francisco for that port call in Australia almost lost the ship. Close. Too close.
Today I use that sailor's death to advantage on field trips, trying to get everyone in their seats. Inertia is not your friend at 65 mph in a school bus.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 10:09 AM (hyuyC)
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When Hillary was signing copies of her waste of ink and paper at a Costco did people have to pay to get in?
Costcos tend to be overcrowded at the best of times. I would have been furious.
Costcos tend to be overcrowded at the best of times. I would have been furious.
Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 17, 2018 10:09 AM (nBr1j)
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87 Matt "Guitar" Murphy, best known as one of the stalwarts of the Blues Brothers Band and a renowned sideman with Howlin' Wolf, Memphis Slim, Muddy Waters, James Cotton and many others, has died. He was 88 and his death was confirmed by his nephew, Floyd Murphy Jr., on Facebook.
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The Blues Brothers Band was a great compilation of talent and skill that taught this then-young Moron about Soul and the Blues. RIP Matt Murphy, who was cool enough to walk out on Aretha Franklin and not look like a quitter.
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The Blues Brothers Band was a great compilation of talent and skill that taught this then-young Moron about Soul and the Blues. RIP Matt Murphy, who was cool enough to walk out on Aretha Franklin and not look like a quitter.
Posted by: exdem13 at June 17, 2018 10:10 AM (W+kMI)
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A nice one hour blast of oxygen injection was just what the doctor ordered.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 17, 2018 10:11 AM (Y9uH4)
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141 Asking the Horde mind, if anyone knows, how to preserve crumbling leather. For example, a leather wallet holding a great-uncle's Masonic papers. Some turn of last century leather-bound sets have crumbles as well. I have no idea how to even start.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 17, 2018 10:06 AM (MIKMs)
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Mink (not Weasel!) oil.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 17, 2018 10:06 AM (MIKMs)
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Mink (not Weasel!) oil.
Posted by: Weasel at June 17, 2018 10:12 AM (MVjcR)
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Mexico-Germany is about to begin (half-hour), Putin's World Cup. SJW Sports Illustrated tried to convince us that rooting for Mexico is an all-American thing to do. SI has tilted left for decades and is now full-on anti-Trump. Fuck SI. I wouldn't root for Mexico if my life depended on it... even against Germany. Fuck SI, I'm letting my subscription run out, after 40+ years. Fuck Mexico, fuck SI.
Strong words to follow.
Strong words to follow.
Posted by: One of Those Guys at June 17, 2018 10:12 AM (wTD0g)
156
Bannon killing it on ABC's Sunday Morning Show
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 17, 2018 10:13 AM (pV/54)
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Love that shirt. It says it all, with a smile.
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 10:07 AM (V+03K)
It even gets a little dig on repeaters in the radio tuning (the original is on simplex of course).
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 10:07 AM (V+03K)
It even gets a little dig on repeaters in the radio tuning (the original is on simplex of course).
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 10:13 AM (fZuhk)
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Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 09:52 AM (cY3LT)
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Burt, I've had these delicious dreams where I wander around in the perfect book store and I can look at "real" (imaginary) books, take them down, ooh and ahh over the color plates and gold embossed covers, sit in leather chairs and read...and when I awaken I am near to tears when I realize it's only a dream.
Is is hell...or have I been afforded a glimpse of heaven?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 10:06 AM (JxMDl)
That's a good question. Do these imaginary books taunt us, to remind us we cannot have what we want, or do they teach us to be patient? To await our reward?
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Burt, I've had these delicious dreams where I wander around in the perfect book store and I can look at "real" (imaginary) books, take them down, ooh and ahh over the color plates and gold embossed covers, sit in leather chairs and read...and when I awaken I am near to tears when I realize it's only a dream.
Is is hell...or have I been afforded a glimpse of heaven?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 10:06 AM (JxMDl)
That's a good question. Do these imaginary books taunt us, to remind us we cannot have what we want, or do they teach us to be patient? To await our reward?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 10:13 AM (cY3LT)
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Preparations to fight the Soviets in Germany paid huge dividends against the Iraqi military just about every piece of American military equipment out-classed the Soviet stuff that the Iraqis possessed.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 10:05 AM
Ya, and the Russians and probably the Chinese noticed and they are trying to upgrade their equipment.
Trump could do the same thing Reagan did and pour some money into that evil Military-Industrial-Complex and build some, for real, star wars stuff.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 10:05 AM
Ya, and the Russians and probably the Chinese noticed and they are trying to upgrade their equipment.
Trump could do the same thing Reagan did and pour some money into that evil Military-Industrial-Complex and build some, for real, star wars stuff.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 17, 2018 10:14 AM (roQNm)
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Can't recommend Craig Symonds' new naval history of WWII more highly. Very detailed, but a fast read as well.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 17, 2018 10:14 AM (EV0ql)
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I read somewhere that Russia doesn't get nearly enough credit for starting WWI in the first place. Apparently they mobilized first, which forced Germany's hand, and then we were off to the races.
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That's my opinion. Not only did the Russkies mobilize while promising Kaiser Bill they wouldn't, the Tsar, no rocket surgeon himself, then let it slip to Bill that they had done so. The German's defense plan was entirely dependent on speed. When Bill found out that the Russkies had stolen several days march on him, he felt he had no choice but to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.
Further, in pursuit of their ancient and continuing to this day desire for a warm water port for western Russia, the Russkies backed assassins of a hereditary monarch, an untenable position given that Tsar Nicholas was an absolute hereditary monarch. Killing monarchs would seem a policy he should not support. But he paid. Oh yes, he paid.
But there was plenty of blame to go around
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That's my opinion. Not only did the Russkies mobilize while promising Kaiser Bill they wouldn't, the Tsar, no rocket surgeon himself, then let it slip to Bill that they had done so. The German's defense plan was entirely dependent on speed. When Bill found out that the Russkies had stolen several days march on him, he felt he had no choice but to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.
Further, in pursuit of their ancient and continuing to this day desire for a warm water port for western Russia, the Russkies backed assassins of a hereditary monarch, an untenable position given that Tsar Nicholas was an absolute hereditary monarch. Killing monarchs would seem a policy he should not support. But he paid. Oh yes, he paid.
But there was plenty of blame to go around
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 10:14 AM (+y/Ru)
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The best description of how WWI got rolling came from a college history prof in my youth... "Imagine a small room packed with men, each of them with a noose around their neck, and guy next to them holding the rope (all the defense treaties that been signed)... and then somebody decided to yank hard on their rope.
Mayhem ensues...
Mayhem ensues...
Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 17, 2018 10:16 AM (W+kMI)
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Can't recommend Craig Symonds' new naval history of WWII more highly. Very detailed, but a fast read as well.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 17, 2018 10:14 AM (EV0ql)
The Midway guy? Noted, thanks. I'll keep an eye out.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 17, 2018 10:14 AM (EV0ql)
The Midway guy? Noted, thanks. I'll keep an eye out.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 10:16 AM (fZuhk)
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Asking the Horde mind, if anyone knows, how to preserve crumbling leather. For example, a leather wallet holding a great-uncle's Masonic papers. Some turn of last century leather-bound sets have crumbles as well. I have no idea how to even start.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 17, 2018 10:06 AM (MIKMs)
I used "Howard Leather Conditioner" on an un-dyed leather rifle sling. Went on very easy and, after it dried, darkened the leather only very slightly. This stuff only consists of lanolin, neatsfoot oil, aloe vera, cannuba wax and beeswax. This might work for your application; I'd put a little bit on in an unobtrusive area and check a day later to see how it affected the leather.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 17, 2018 10:06 AM (MIKMs)
I used "Howard Leather Conditioner" on an un-dyed leather rifle sling. Went on very easy and, after it dried, darkened the leather only very slightly. This stuff only consists of lanolin, neatsfoot oil, aloe vera, cannuba wax and beeswax. This might work for your application; I'd put a little bit on in an unobtrusive area and check a day later to see how it affected the leather.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 10:17 AM (5Yee7)
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Trump could do the same thing Reagan did and pour some money into that evil Military-Industrial-Complex and build some, for real, star wars stuff.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 17, 2018 10:14 AM (roQNm)
He is. I work for a DoD contractor and we've seen over 25% growth in the military accounts in one year.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 17, 2018 10:14 AM (roQNm)
He is. I work for a DoD contractor and we've seen over 25% growth in the military accounts in one year.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 10:19 AM (5Yee7)
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The tragedy of August 1914 is that EVERYONE had perfectly sound, moral reasons for starting the war.
Serbia was fighting to liberate their fellow slavs in Austrian-occupied territory. Austria was avenging the state-sponsored terrorist murder of the heir to the throne. Russia was defending a weak country against aggression by a stronger one. Germany was standing by an ally. France was standing by an ally. Belgium was defending its territory. Britain was standing by an ally.
BOOM.
Serbia was fighting to liberate their fellow slavs in Austrian-occupied territory. Austria was avenging the state-sponsored terrorist murder of the heir to the throne. Russia was defending a weak country against aggression by a stronger one. Germany was standing by an ally. France was standing by an ally. Belgium was defending its territory. Britain was standing by an ally.
BOOM.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:21 AM (+v/Sn)
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I'm not wearing pants this morning but I did wear my underwear inside out all day yesterday, so I've got that going for me.
Posted by: mpfs, War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want. Wm T Sher at June 17, 2018 10:21 AM (Mjtwb)
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I think I found this posted here. WWI as a bar fight
http://themetapicture.com/if-wwi-was-a-bar-fight/
http://themetapicture.com/if-wwi-was-a-bar-fight/
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 17, 2018 10:22 AM (pV/54)
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Killing monarchs would seem a policy he should not support. But he paid. Oh yes, he paid.
But there was plenty of blame to go around
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 10:14 AM (+y/Ru)
Which nobody other than the radical Serbs had any responsibility for.
The Czar was not even remotely behind the plot to kill the Archduke, and any suggestion that he was is silly beyond description.
He was guilty of being a backer of Serbia. That was his "crime." And when the Germans FORCED Austria to push the Serbs beyond any reasonable option to maintain peace, with months of preparation to get to that point, I don't find it possible to place the ultimate blame for all of this anywhere other than squarely on the Germans.
They started the damn war. Nobody else.
But there was plenty of blame to go around
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 10:14 AM (+y/Ru)
Which nobody other than the radical Serbs had any responsibility for.
The Czar was not even remotely behind the plot to kill the Archduke, and any suggestion that he was is silly beyond description.
He was guilty of being a backer of Serbia. That was his "crime." And when the Germans FORCED Austria to push the Serbs beyond any reasonable option to maintain peace, with months of preparation to get to that point, I don't find it possible to place the ultimate blame for all of this anywhere other than squarely on the Germans.
They started the damn war. Nobody else.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 10:22 AM (cY3LT)
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A book I read on WW1 by John Keegan made it seem like the war started by a bunch of diplomatic fuckups where nobody really understood what was going on until too late.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 17, 2018 10:22 AM (y7DUB)
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Addendum - BTW they did not buy a book.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 10:23 AM (KsOxJ)
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162 The best description of how WWI got rolling came from a college history prof in my youth... "Imagine a small room packed with men, each of them with a noose around their neck, and guy next to them holding the rope (all the defense treaties that been signed)... and then somebody decided to yank hard on their rope.
Mayhem ensues...
Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 17, 2018 10:16 AM (W+kMI)
I am not a fan of Quentin Tarantino, but one of his movies had a room full of criminals each pointing a gun at one another's head.
Mayhem ensues...
Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 17, 2018 10:16 AM (W+kMI)
I am not a fan of Quentin Tarantino, but one of his movies had a room full of criminals each pointing a gun at one another's head.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 10:23 AM (sdi6R)
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Finished "Thrawn" by Timothy Zahn. A quick, easy read. I enjoyed it quite a bit, but looking back, not really much of a standard story, but more like an biography. It tells the origin story of the rise of Thrawn through the Imperial ranks to become a Grand Admiral, the only non-human to do so. There is a secondary story about the CEO of a rim world mining company whose loses everything only to claw her way back up the ladder to become an Imperial Governor.
Then I started re-reading Brian Lumley's "Necroscope". The tale of a man who can talk to the dead.
Then I started re-reading Brian Lumley's "Necroscope". The tale of a man who can talk to the dead.
Posted by: Darth Randall at June 17, 2018 10:23 AM (7TeOH)
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that's a pretty good theory - but lets not even get started on Men's auxiliary brain.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2018 09:54 AM (V2Yro)
Oh, let's!
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2018 09:54 AM (V2Yro)
Oh, let's!
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 17, 2018 10:24 AM (9BLnV)
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Carl Zimmer, She Has Her Mother's Laugh is another popular genetics book that is really afraid to present the facts of genetics, and makes up for it by slandering the old white 'racist' hereditarians who got it too right to early. I'm this case Galton.
I am getting a little tired of the virtue signalling from these authors.
besides that, it is a much larger book than Who We Are by David Reich. it has stuff about the history of the disciple, although you will have to read between the lines. also details of meiosis.
I am getting a little tired of the virtue signalling from these authors.
besides that, it is a much larger book than Who We Are by David Reich. it has stuff about the history of the disciple, although you will have to read between the lines. also details of meiosis.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 17, 2018 10:24 AM (rSxj8)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 10:24 AM (KB4SV)
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''And, knowing his devoted followers, Mr. Obama will probably get it.''
I see Mooch has a book coming out in Nov.
I see Mooch has a book coming out in Nov.
Posted by: Tuna at June 17, 2018 10:25 AM (jm1YL)
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It's not a palindrome.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 17, 2018 10:25 AM (l9m7l)
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I just finished listening to Church History in Plain English by Bruce Shelley.
It walks through everything from before the crucifixion to today. The story takes 21 hours to tell but I found it fascinating and valuable.
In all the idiocy of the West it's easy to overlook the explosive growth of the church over the last century (almost all of it in the global south).
IMHO he's fair to all branches of the Christian church.
It walks through everything from before the crucifixion to today. The story takes 21 hours to tell but I found it fascinating and valuable.
In all the idiocy of the West it's easy to overlook the explosive growth of the church over the last century (almost all of it in the global south).
IMHO he's fair to all branches of the Christian church.
Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 17, 2018 10:25 AM (nBr1j)
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Per BurtTC, the krauts had war gamed out WW1 to the point that they seriously believed they could win it very very quickly.
Oops!
Oops!
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 17, 2018 10:25 AM (y7DUB)
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Austria was avenging the state-sponsored terrorist murder of the heir to the throne.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:21 AM (+v/Sn)
State sponsored?
What evidence was there this was state sponsored?
These were Serbian anarchists, who hated the Serbian government as much as the Austrian. They wanted chaos, and they got it.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:21 AM (+v/Sn)
State sponsored?
What evidence was there this was state sponsored?
These were Serbian anarchists, who hated the Serbian government as much as the Austrian. They wanted chaos, and they got it.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 10:25 AM (cY3LT)
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I read some more of "Three Men in a Boat" and had to stop because my sides hurt from laughing so hard. I read some more of Pat McManus and had to stop for the same reason. (I don't dare re-read any of the Liturgical Mystery series right now.)
To give myself a break, I started "The Jane Austen Cookbook". I haven't tried any of the recipes but the intro information on dining and entertaining customs of the time is fascinating.
To give myself a break, I started "The Jane Austen Cookbook". I haven't tried any of the recipes but the intro information on dining and entertaining customs of the time is fascinating.
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 10:27 AM (V+03K)
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Burt: remember that the Serbian "radicals" had support from inside Serbia's intelligence service. Now I don't know how much the actual Serbian government knew about what its secret dudes were up to, but they didn't put a lot of effort into finding out, either. Serbia had no business sponsoring terrorism against Austria, period. And Russia was foolish to support them as it only egged them on.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:27 AM (+v/Sn)
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I do have a confession. At this exact moment I am not wearing pants. The One Rule to rule them all slipped my mind.
I'm so ashamed.
I'm so ashamed.
Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 17, 2018 10:27 AM (nBr1j)
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173 Finished "Thrawn" by Timothy Zahn. A quick, easy read. I enjoyed it quite a bit, but looking back, not really much of a standard story, but more like an biography. It tells the origin story of the rise of Thrawn through the Imperial ranks to become a Grand Admiral, the only non-human to do so. There is a secondary story about the CEO of a rim world mining company whose loses everything only to claw her way back up the ladder to become an Imperial Governor.
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I recently finished it as well, one of the few new timeline stories I've read. I got Zahn to sign my copy last month at a comic con, and he gave me a signed preview poster of the follow up novel, "Thrawn: Alliances"
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I recently finished it as well, one of the few new timeline stories I've read. I got Zahn to sign my copy last month at a comic con, and he gave me a signed preview poster of the follow up novel, "Thrawn: Alliances"
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 10:28 AM (ANIFC)
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I'm reading Jordan Peterson's "12 Rules for Life" right now and am enjoying it. I find much of what he says is basic common sense. Many of his observations about men and women remind me of what Camille Paglia wrote in "Sexual Personae" over 20 years ago. (It is no surprise the two of them got along so well.) Male =hierarchy= Apollonian - necessary for an ordered society but can lead to tyranny. Female=chaos = Dionysian - necessary for creativity and innovation, but can lead to well, chaos. You need a balance of both forces to avoid either living in a stultifying, rigid world or one ruled entirely by subjective feelings. And for observations like that, Peterson is labeled a Nazi white supremacist?
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 17, 2018 10:28 AM (H80UQ)
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184 I do have a confession. At this exact moment I am not wearing pants. The One Rule to rule them all slipped my mind.
I'm so ashamed.
Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 17, 2018 10:27 AM (nBr1j)
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Pssst...me neither!
I'm so ashamed.
Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 17, 2018 10:27 AM (nBr1j)
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Pssst...me neither!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 10:29 AM (JxMDl)
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A book I read on WW1 by John Keegan made it seem like the war started by a bunch of diplomatic fuckups where nobody really understood what was going on until too late.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 17, 2018 10:22 AM (y7DUB)
That's an accurate description of England and france.
I'm not sure, but I thought there was something around the notion that the Germans were counting on the western powers to stay out of it, that this was going to be a quick jaunt in the East, and their little foray into Belgium was mostly meant to keep the french at bay.
Well..... once france decided they were in it with all their chips, the British kinda sorta went along, because they had to.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 17, 2018 10:22 AM (y7DUB)
That's an accurate description of England and france.
I'm not sure, but I thought there was something around the notion that the Germans were counting on the western powers to stay out of it, that this was going to be a quick jaunt in the East, and their little foray into Belgium was mostly meant to keep the french at bay.
Well..... once france decided they were in it with all their chips, the British kinda sorta went along, because they had to.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 10:29 AM (cY3LT)
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Burt: look up "Colonel Apis" (aka Dragutin Dimitrijevic), the Serbian intelligence officer who organized the "Black Hand" group which bagged Franz Ferdinand.
Though ol' Dragutin was kind of an equal-opportunity psychopath as he was also involved in assassinating the King of Serbia in 1903. I get the impression he just liked assassinations.
Though ol' Dragutin was kind of an equal-opportunity psychopath as he was also involved in assassinating the King of Serbia in 1903. I get the impression he just liked assassinations.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:30 AM (+v/Sn)
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Northerlurker report to the barrel immediately
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 10:30 AM (pHfeF)
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Re: WWI ... for those who have not read it, Barbara Tuchman's 'The Proud Tower' is a great look at the history and events leading up to the war.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 10:30 AM (KsOxJ)
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What I was taught as an underlying theory, not who punched whom first, is that Bismarck being a strong Chancellor under weak Kaisers, orchestrated a series of overlapping and conflicting treaties in Europe.
It worked while he could pull the strings and use these alliances to keep people from being too stupid, but then he died and there was no one left smart enough to do that.
It worked while he could pull the strings and use these alliances to keep people from being too stupid, but then he died and there was no one left smart enough to do that.
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In my defense: Eris/Chaos/Dionysus.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 10:31 AM (JxMDl)
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We lost our only bookstore in the valley, Barnes and Noble, this week due to the tornado that came our way. No idea when they will be able to start repairs and reopen.
I'm sad.
I'm sad.
Posted by: mpfs, War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want. Wm T Sher at June 17, 2018 10:31 AM (Mjtwb)
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Per BurtTC, the krauts had war gamed out WW1 to the point that they seriously believed they could win it very very quickly.
Literally thisclose. The Marne was as close run a thing as Gettysburg.
Literally thisclose. The Marne was as close run a thing as Gettysburg.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 17, 2018 10:32 AM (EV0ql)
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So Eris instead of a golden apple you tossed into Mittel Europa a hand grenade called Serbia?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 10:32 AM (KB4SV)
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Burt: remember that the Serbian "radicals" had support from inside Serbia's intelligence service. Now I don't know how much the actual Serbian government knew about what its secret dudes were up to, but they didn't put a lot of effort into finding out, either. Serbia had no business sponsoring terrorism against Austria, period. And Russia was foolish to support them as it only egged them on.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:27 AM (+v/Sn)
If the past couple years have taught us anything, it's that the deep state is capable of all sorts of havoc that the people who are SUPPOSED to set policy know nothing about, or as you suggest, choose NOT to know anything about.
I just see Serbia as a podunk little nothing of a backwater hick village of a nation, that is no more capable of sound government than, say for example, the State of Illinois.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:27 AM (+v/Sn)
If the past couple years have taught us anything, it's that the deep state is capable of all sorts of havoc that the people who are SUPPOSED to set policy know nothing about, or as you suggest, choose NOT to know anything about.
I just see Serbia as a podunk little nothing of a backwater hick village of a nation, that is no more capable of sound government than, say for example, the State of Illinois.
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Just finished John C. Wright's Superluminary - a fun and imaginative adventure in a class by itself, blending hard science fiction, superheroes, and interstellar fantasy. Starting on Peter Grant's next book: An Airless Storm. The first in the series was great. I'm glad I didn't have to wait long for this one.
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Because the big bad Germans were behind it all, egging Austria to do EXACTLY what was going to bring on a world war.
Russia was, if anything, a supremely unwilling victim in all of this.
Posted by: BurtTC
Serbia had been a violent, aggressive pain in the ass for decades and the plot to kill the Archduke wax enabled by "Apis", who was not only the head of the Black Hand terror group but also roughly the equivalent of the head of the CIA of Serbia. (He had, ten years earlier, murdered Serbia's king and queen.) Did Serbia bear substantial responsibility for the terror attack? My answer is oh, hell yes.
Further, Germany may have wanted to do a little housecleaning in the Balkans (and, in those days, using war to achieve policy goals was viewed much more favorably than today; more the sport of kings than a war crime. It is my opinion that WWI is responsible for changing that attitude.). But Germany did not want a general war of Europe, specifically did not want war with Russia, Britain or France. Was Kaiser Bill a buffoon? Absolutely, but more buffoon than evil.
Russia was, if anything, a supremely unwilling victim in all of this.
Posted by: BurtTC
Serbia had been a violent, aggressive pain in the ass for decades and the plot to kill the Archduke wax enabled by "Apis", who was not only the head of the Black Hand terror group but also roughly the equivalent of the head of the CIA of Serbia. (He had, ten years earlier, murdered Serbia's king and queen.) Did Serbia bear substantial responsibility for the terror attack? My answer is oh, hell yes.
Further, Germany may have wanted to do a little housecleaning in the Balkans (and, in those days, using war to achieve policy goals was viewed much more favorably than today; more the sport of kings than a war crime. It is my opinion that WWI is responsible for changing that attitude.). But Germany did not want a general war of Europe, specifically did not want war with Russia, Britain or France. Was Kaiser Bill a buffoon? Absolutely, but more buffoon than evil.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 10:34 AM (+y/Ru)
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I recently finished it as well, one of the few new timeline stories I've read. I got Zahn to sign my copy last month at a comic con, and he gave me a signed preview poster of the follow up novel, "Thrawn: Alliances"
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 10:28 AM (ANIFC)
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Hah! Pretty cool. It is the only new timeline book that I have read. I did so because I enjoy Zahn's Star Wars books.
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 10:28 AM (ANIFC)
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Hah! Pretty cool. It is the only new timeline book that I have read. I did so because I enjoy Zahn's Star Wars books.
Posted by: Darth Randall at June 17, 2018 10:34 AM (7TeOH)
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Sixty-year-old Nellie just happened to apply for a HAM radio license one month after Fusion got the gig to create the Trump dossier.
Posted by: cool breeze at June 17, 2018 09:26 AM (UGKMd)
Pedantic nit-pick: It's not HAM radio, it's just ham radio. You don't have to capitalize the word ham. It's not an acronym for anything.
Good morning horde, and thanks to CBD who posts the book thread every Sunday while I am still snug abed.
Posted by: cool breeze at June 17, 2018 09:26 AM (UGKMd)
Pedantic nit-pick: It's not HAM radio, it's just ham radio. You don't have to capitalize the word ham. It's not an acronym for anything.
Good morning horde, and thanks to CBD who posts the book thread every Sunday while I am still snug abed.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 10:34 AM (I3yXU)
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I just see Serbia as a podunk little nothing of a backwater hick village of a nation, that is no more capable of sound government than, say for example, the State of Illinois.
A contemporary analog exists. With nuclear weapons.
A contemporary analog exists. With nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 17, 2018 10:34 AM (EV0ql)
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https://www.amazon.com/Spearheading-D-Day-American-Special-Normandy/dp/2352502012
Almost pulled the trigger but didn't remember my password but will when I find it. I am still looking for information on Engineer Bans on D-Day.
Almost pulled the trigger but didn't remember my password but will when I find it. I am still looking for information on Engineer Bans on D-Day.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 10:35 AM (pHfeF)
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Is it safe to be in the barrel without pants?
But rules are rules.
But rules are rules.
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Burt: look up "Colonel Apis" (aka Dragutin Dimitrijevic), the Serbian intelligence officer who organized the "Black Hand" group which bagged Franz Ferdinand.
Though ol' Dragutin was kind of an equal-opportunity psychopath as he was also involved in assassinating the King of Serbia in 1903. I get the impression he just liked assassinations.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:30 AM (+v/Sn)
Well, mental health professionals feel that assassinations can serve a cleansing effect on the national consciousness. Sort of like an enema for the country.
Though ol' Dragutin was kind of an equal-opportunity psychopath as he was also involved in assassinating the King of Serbia in 1903. I get the impression he just liked assassinations.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:30 AM (+v/Sn)
Well, mental health professionals feel that assassinations can serve a cleansing effect on the national consciousness. Sort of like an enema for the country.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 17, 2018 10:36 AM (9BLnV)
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IIRC by the time Pricip busted some caps into the Archduke, Serbia was Russia's only remaining ally in the Balkans because of previous misadventures in 1913 involving Greece.
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121 The latest Two Minute Hate is that Trump is keeping poor little brown children in 'prison camps'... JUST LIKE THE NAZIS.
Christ in Heaven... and they wonder why Pinochet fired up the helic
Oh and not only that, but the MSNBC crew brought their Bibles out and they're quoting Leviticus at us. Isn't that just precious? I think they're so cute and adorable when they do that.
Christ in Heaven... and they wonder why Pinochet fired up the helic
Oh and not only that, but the MSNBC crew brought their Bibles out and they're quoting Leviticus at us. Isn't that just precious? I think they're so cute and adorable when they do that.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 10:36 AM (I3yXU)
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I guess it's my fault that we're refighting WWI. But at least it's a change of pace from refighting the Civil War.
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I finished the sequel to Adrian Goldsworthy's "Vindolanda', "The Encircling Sea''. Just loved it. I find the subject of the Romans in Britain fascinating. Mr. Goldsworthy, a noted historian, took the recent discoveries at the ancient fort, in particular a party invitation from one Roman lady to another, and has given these characters the life they might have had. Anyway, the second book was very exciting. Can't wait for the next book. Sad I have to wait a year. Lovers of Roman history will have fun with these books.
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Burt: look up "Colonel Apis" (aka Dragutin Dimitrijevic), the Serbian intelligence officer who organized the "Black Hand" group which bagged Franz Ferdinand.
Though ol' Dragutin was kind of an equal-opportunity psychopath as he was also involved in assassinating the King of Serbia in 1903. I get the impression he just liked assassinations.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:30 AM (+v/Sn)
Yeah, the name is familiar, in the deeper recesses of my brain.
So yeah, I think it's probably a matter of semantics. My overall view is that Serbia was too stupid to be "orchestrating" anything, but with all sorts of loose shit going on, in and outside their government, one could certainly suggest they had some culpability here.
I still contend though, the Germans knew damn well there was no way ANY nation, even one as unworthy of being called a nation as Serbia, was going to be able to go along with the demands being made on them.
Though ol' Dragutin was kind of an equal-opportunity psychopath as he was also involved in assassinating the King of Serbia in 1903. I get the impression he just liked assassinations.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:30 AM (+v/Sn)
Yeah, the name is familiar, in the deeper recesses of my brain.
So yeah, I think it's probably a matter of semantics. My overall view is that Serbia was too stupid to be "orchestrating" anything, but with all sorts of loose shit going on, in and outside their government, one could certainly suggest they had some culpability here.
I still contend though, the Germans knew damn well there was no way ANY nation, even one as unworthy of being called a nation as Serbia, was going to be able to go along with the demands being made on them.
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Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at June 17, 2018 10:33 AM (1pQvR)
Started your "Hidden Truth" last night. Switched to something else for the last hour before bed because there's enough *real* stuff in there I was afraid it would interfere with sleeping. Somehow I had missed in discussions that it was a alternate-history, but you show the areas of divergence well.
Started your "Hidden Truth" last night. Switched to something else for the last hour before bed because there's enough *real* stuff in there I was afraid it would interfere with sleeping. Somehow I had missed in discussions that it was a alternate-history, but you show the areas of divergence well.
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If the past couple years have taught us anything, it's that the deep state is capable of all sorts of havoc that the people who are SUPPOSED to set policy know nothing about, or as you suggest, choose NOT to know anything about.
I just see Serbia as a podunk little nothing of a backwater hick village of a nation, that is no more capable of sound government than, say for example, the State of Illinois.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 10:33 AM (cY3LT)
Sort of like the State of Insanity.
I just see Serbia as a podunk little nothing of a backwater hick village of a nation, that is no more capable of sound government than, say for example, the State of Illinois.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 10:33 AM (cY3LT)
Sort of like the State of Insanity.
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Female=chaos = Dionysian - necessary for creativity and innovation, but can lead to well, chaos.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 17, 2018 10:28 AM (H80UQ)
So you're basically saying that General Mattis is very much in touch with his feminine side?
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 17, 2018 10:28 AM (H80UQ)
So you're basically saying that General Mattis is very much in touch with his feminine side?
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 10:38 AM (fZuhk)
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The Dune series gets mentioned here a lot. I read the first two then stopped and wasn't tempted to go farther. But I haven't read Dune since shortly after it came out in the mid-60s, so my memory of it is dim and influenced by many viewings of the Lynch movie.. All the recent talk makes me want to re-read it and see how I will react now versus when I was a teen.
Anyone else tryed that after a near 50 year hiatus?
Anyone else tryed that after a near 50 year hiatus?
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 10:38 AM (V+03K)
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I'm reading The Contrary Farmer by Gene Logsdon. I find him more entertaining than Wendell Barry. I also picked up Albion's Seed but haven't looked at it yet.
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But at least it's a change of pace from refighting the Civil War.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 10:36 AM (sdi6R)
YOU MEAN THE WAR OF NORTHER AGGRESSION!!!
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 10:36 AM (sdi6R)
YOU MEAN THE WAR OF NORTHER AGGRESSION!!!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 10:38 AM (cY3LT)
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The Bowie knife book is Dwight MacLemore's Bowie and Big Knife Fghting system," and is...interesting. It is basically his take on what a 19th century knife fight might have looked like, rather than an attempt to form a system for using a bowie knife today. Since there are no surviving fencing manuals for antebellum bowie knives, it based on certain techniques from other weapons like sabers and a lot of experimentation. If you are a historical martial arts with an interest in Early America, you might find it interesting (as well as his books on tomahawks, which I also own).
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 17, 2018 09:38 AM (bZ7mE)
I've been eying MacLemore's books for years, but never pulled the trigger. I'd love to find a study group or school to work on big knife fighting. When I was in Colorado a guy in Denver used to run the occasional seminar, which was fun.
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 17, 2018 09:38 AM (bZ7mE)
I've been eying MacLemore's books for years, but never pulled the trigger. I'd love to find a study group or school to work on big knife fighting. When I was in Colorado a guy in Denver used to run the occasional seminar, which was fun.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2018 10:39 AM (Tnhbr)
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It's a question I have wondered for years here. Why can't threads be canned and set to release at a exact time like it seems some websites do? Or maybe no one does that, I have not a clue how this internet stuff works. But give me a pile of lumber, drywall, and shingles and can build you a nice house.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 10:39 AM (pHfeF)
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Oh and not only that, but the MSNBC crew brought their Bibles out and they're quoting Leviticus at us.
The same idiots were assuring us just a couple of days ago that public policy and the Bible do not mix. I genuinely wonder where a) they found someone on the payroll who knows what Leviticus is and b) who could find the Bible section in a book store.
The same idiots were assuring us just a couple of days ago that public policy and the Bible do not mix. I genuinely wonder where a) they found someone on the payroll who knows what Leviticus is and b) who could find the Bible section in a book store.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 17, 2018 10:39 AM (EV0ql)
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Speaking of the Balkans & WWI, I so wish I could find a book on the Greco-Turkish War that started up during the war and lasted until the 1920s. There's books on aspects, like the burning of Symrna, and the uniforms, but no overall history that I can find.
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 10:40 AM (ANIFC)
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"Barbara Tuchman's 'The Proud Tower' is a great look at the history and events leading up to the war."
And her Guns of August, how it played out in the fateful last weeks before WWI started.
As I recall, it was a crazy Rube Goldberg device that, once started, couldn't be stopped. German strategy was to avoid a two front war by knocking France out early, before the Russians could mass their huge army across great distances. So once the Russians started, the Germans had to execute their Schlieffen plan, which went for the French knockout by violating Belgian neutrality, which forced Britain to enter the war. And then nothing went to plan.
And her Guns of August, how it played out in the fateful last weeks before WWI started.
As I recall, it was a crazy Rube Goldberg device that, once started, couldn't be stopped. German strategy was to avoid a two front war by knocking France out early, before the Russians could mass their huge army across great distances. So once the Russians started, the Germans had to execute their Schlieffen plan, which went for the French knockout by violating Belgian neutrality, which forced Britain to enter the war. And then nothing went to plan.
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Posted by: Darth Randall at June 17, 2018 10:34 AM (7TeOH)
If I ever spend time or money on Star Wars again it will be to buy/read the novels. I remember that everyone was surprised when they were declared non-canon and ignored for the prequels.
If I ever spend time or money on Star Wars again it will be to buy/read the novels. I remember that everyone was surprised when they were declared non-canon and ignored for the prequels.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 17, 2018 10:41 AM (rp9xB)
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Well there is always the Persian Campaign of the Great War to discuss..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Campaign
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Campaign
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 10:41 AM (KB4SV)
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Oh and not only that, but the MSNBC crew brought their Bibles out and they're quoting Leviticus at us.
I'll go out on a limb and bet NONE of those cock suckers owned a Bible. Barnes and Nobles must have had a good day yesterday
I'll go out on a limb and bet NONE of those cock suckers owned a Bible. Barnes and Nobles must have had a good day yesterday
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 10:42 AM (Ydx5u)
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thanks to CBD who posts the book thread every Sunday while I am still snug abed.
Posted by: OregonMuse,
AHA !
Posted by: OregonMuse,
AHA !
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 10:42 AM (EEuOO)
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I been to Vindolanda!
miserable, cold, and full of sheep. pretty countryside though. it was the base the Romans built before the yuge glorious wall.
miserable, cold, and full of sheep. pretty countryside though. it was the base the Romans built before the yuge glorious wall.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 17, 2018 10:42 AM (AsrrK)
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I just finished a book on DARPA and am now reading that book about the 12 Horsemen at the start of the Afghan War.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 10:43 AM (Ydx5u)
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Shelby Foot said It's in every southern boys heart to be standing before Cemetery ridge on July 3rd 1863 and dream what if?
I say it's in every Northern boy to be standing on Cemetery ridge and say Come try again.
Think I earner some ire for that a few years ago.
I say it's in every Northern boy to be standing on Cemetery ridge and say Come try again.
Think I earner some ire for that a few years ago.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 10:43 AM (pHfeF)
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It's a question I have wondered for years here. Why can't threads be canned and set to release at a exact time like it seems some websites do? Or maybe no one does that, I have not a clue how this internet stuff works.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 10:39 AM (pHfeF)
They can, and many sites do and have for decades. Actually implementing something like a scheduled update is trivial. I have no idea if it's possible with the *types, deletes* elegant code that runs the HQ.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 10:39 AM (pHfeF)
They can, and many sites do and have for decades. Actually implementing something like a scheduled update is trivial. I have no idea if it's possible with the *types, deletes* elegant code that runs the HQ.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 10:43 AM (fZuhk)
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I've read The Guns of August", but not "The Proud Tower". I'll have to add it to my ever-expanding list of books to read when I get around to it.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 10:44 AM (sdi6R)
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Good morning horde. Looking for some good reading references. I recently finished Victor Davis Hanson's "Carnage and Culture" and decided to work my way from ancient Greece until the present. I'm about finished with VDH's "A War Like No Other," which covers the Pelopennisian War and will move onto Adrian Goldworthy's "Pax Romana."
Anyone know of any good books covering the Dark/Middle Ages in Europe? Thanks.
Anyone know of any good books covering the Dark/Middle Ages in Europe? Thanks.
Posted by: TheCentralScrutinizer at June 17, 2018 10:44 AM (l0EgF)
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223 Posted by: Darth Randall at June 17, 2018 10:34 AM (7TeOH)
If I ever spend time or money on Star Wars again it will be to buy/read the novels. I remember that everyone was surprised when they were declared non-canon and ignored for the prequels.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 17, 2018 10:41 AM (rp9xB)
That's what I've been doing for the last 5 years, reading the old timeline in timeline order (switching out other books in between the SW books, of course). I'm just about to start ATOC.
If I ever spend time or money on Star Wars again it will be to buy/read the novels. I remember that everyone was surprised when they were declared non-canon and ignored for the prequels.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 17, 2018 10:41 AM (rp9xB)
That's what I've been doing for the last 5 years, reading the old timeline in timeline order (switching out other books in between the SW books, of course). I'm just about to start ATOC.
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 10:44 AM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at June 17, 2018 10:45 AM (Tyii7)
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Based on the talk about "The Jungle is Neutral" last night I ordered a copy from one of Amazons third party used book sellers. Looking forward to receiving it. Also, purchased the kindle version of the book mentioned by Muse about the French emigre hiding out in London. I do love a good historical novel.
Posted by: Tuna at June 17, 2018 10:45 AM (jm1YL)
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Pedantic nit-pick: It's not HAM radio, it's just ham radio. You don't have to capitalize the word ham.
Some people really LIKE ham.
Some people really LIKE ham.
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 10:45 AM (EEuOO)
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The Czar was not even remotely behind the plot to kill the Archduke, and any suggestion that he was is silly beyond description.
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I didn't mean to suggest that the Tsar had prior knowledge of or had enabled the terror attack. His actions after the assassination did support the policy that terror-enabling Serbia should not suffer the consequences of enabling the terrorist assassination of the Archduke.
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I didn't mean to suggest that the Tsar had prior knowledge of or had enabled the terror attack. His actions after the assassination did support the policy that terror-enabling Serbia should not suffer the consequences of enabling the terrorist assassination of the Archduke.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 10:45 AM (+y/Ru)
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So, all you moron authors, I have a question: how common is this? I wonder if I'm being fooled by my confirmation bias because I believe the Clinton clan are a bunch of sleazy grifters. How often does an author charge the public merely to be in his presence?
Book signings are basically advertising, its the author trying to reach out and be noticed by readers, putting their work on display and interacting with potential buyers. Charging for that is like Pepsi charging you to see a commercial.
However, people don't buy books from famous people because of the books. They want to be associated with famous person or like them, so they buy the book, so with the Clintons its a different dynamic. Nobody bought Hillary's book because she's a great author, they bought it because she's Hillary.
So in that case, THEY are the product, not the book.
Book signings are basically advertising, its the author trying to reach out and be noticed by readers, putting their work on display and interacting with potential buyers. Charging for that is like Pepsi charging you to see a commercial.
However, people don't buy books from famous people because of the books. They want to be associated with famous person or like them, so they buy the book, so with the Clintons its a different dynamic. Nobody bought Hillary's book because she's a great author, they bought it because she's Hillary.
So in that case, THEY are the product, not the book.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2018 10:45 AM (39g3+)
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thanks to CBD who posts the book thread every Sunday while I am still snug abed.
Posted by: OregonMuse,
AHA !
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 10:42 AM (EEuOO)
OM, of course, wears his book-learnin' trousers to bed on Saturday night so he's ready to leap into the book thread on Sunday.
Posted by: OregonMuse,
AHA !
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 10:42 AM (EEuOO)
OM, of course, wears his book-learnin' trousers to bed on Saturday night so he's ready to leap into the book thread on Sunday.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 10:45 AM (fZuhk)
Posted by: T.E. Lawrence at June 17, 2018 10:45 AM (fuK7c)
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Because the big bad Germans were behind it all, egging Austria to do EXACTLY what was going to bring on a world war.
Russia was, if anything, a supremely unwilling victim in all of this.
Posted by: BurtTC
Serbia had been a violent, aggressive pain in the ass for decades and the plot to kill the Archduke wax enabled by "Apis", who was not only the head of the Black Hand terror group but also roughly the equivalent of the head of the CIA of Serbia. (He had, ten years earlier, murdered Serbia's king and queen.) Did Serbia bear substantial responsibility for the terror attack? My answer is oh, hell yes.
Further, Germany may have wanted to do a little housecleaning in the Balkans (and, in those days, using war to achieve policy goals was viewed much more favorably than today; more the sport of kings than a war crime. It is my opinion that WWI is responsible for changing that attitude.). But Germany did not want a general war of Europe, specifically did not want war with Russia, Britain or France. Was Kaiser Bill a buffoon? Absolutely, but more buffoon than evil.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 10:34 AM (+y/Ru)
Any suggestion of blame you can place on the Serbian "intelligence community," and call that the responsibility of the nation as a whole, you can most certainly place on the German high command, and their diplomatic corps, who knew damn well there was no way this thing wasn't going to involve Russia. They counted on it.
Saying the Kaiser was a fool doesn't exonerate the German military and foreign service, who fancied themselves smarter and stronger and more cunning then everyone else.
Their miscalculation, if there was one, was Britain and france, but they damn sure expected to take on Russia, and they expected to kick them around worse than the Japanese did some 9 years earlier.
Russia was, if anything, a supremely unwilling victim in all of this.
Posted by: BurtTC
Serbia had been a violent, aggressive pain in the ass for decades and the plot to kill the Archduke wax enabled by "Apis", who was not only the head of the Black Hand terror group but also roughly the equivalent of the head of the CIA of Serbia. (He had, ten years earlier, murdered Serbia's king and queen.) Did Serbia bear substantial responsibility for the terror attack? My answer is oh, hell yes.
Further, Germany may have wanted to do a little housecleaning in the Balkans (and, in those days, using war to achieve policy goals was viewed much more favorably than today; more the sport of kings than a war crime. It is my opinion that WWI is responsible for changing that attitude.). But Germany did not want a general war of Europe, specifically did not want war with Russia, Britain or France. Was Kaiser Bill a buffoon? Absolutely, but more buffoon than evil.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 10:34 AM (+y/Ru)
Any suggestion of blame you can place on the Serbian "intelligence community," and call that the responsibility of the nation as a whole, you can most certainly place on the German high command, and their diplomatic corps, who knew damn well there was no way this thing wasn't going to involve Russia. They counted on it.
Saying the Kaiser was a fool doesn't exonerate the German military and foreign service, who fancied themselves smarter and stronger and more cunning then everyone else.
Their miscalculation, if there was one, was Britain and france, but they damn sure expected to take on Russia, and they expected to kick them around worse than the Japanese did some 9 years earlier.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 10:46 AM (cY3LT)
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I have neither the stomach or the patience to watch the sunday am news crap, but are left playing the concentration camp meme?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 10:47 AM (Ydx5u)
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224 Well there is always the Persian Campaign of the Great War to discuss..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Campaign
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 10:41 AM (KB4SV)
Another campaign that, though there are some firsthand accounts, doesn't have a good general history. But how about another book on the Western Front? I don't think anyone's written a book on that theater yet. /s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Campaign
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 10:41 AM (KB4SV)
Another campaign that, though there are some firsthand accounts, doesn't have a good general history. But how about another book on the Western Front? I don't think anyone's written a book on that theater yet. /s
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 10:47 AM (ANIFC)
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So you're basically saying that General Mattis is very much in touch with his feminine side?
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 10:38 AM (fZuhk)
The military might create chaos. The military itself is not chaotic.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 10:38 AM (fZuhk)
The military might create chaos. The military itself is not chaotic.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 17, 2018 10:47 AM (H80UQ)
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I've been enjoying the Pat McManus books so much I ordered some used copies. But the prize was at a local used book store, which only had one of his books. For 35 cents (lost a few seconds looking at the keyboard for a cent symbol like on my typewriters) I got an unopened hardcover copy of his "Kerplunk". This was akin to the time I got most of the Patrick O'Brian books for a buck each. Sometimes you just get lucky.
I am going to just read a few chapters at the most then take a break to let my laughter muscles relax.I've learned my lesson.
I am going to just read a few chapters at the most then take a break to let my laughter muscles relax.I've learned my lesson.
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 10:48 AM (V+03K)
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229 Shelby Foot said It's in every southern boys heart to be standing before Cemetery ridge on July 3rd 1863 and dream what if?
I say it's in every Northern boy to be standing on Cemetery ridge and say Come try again.
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Shouting "Fredericksburg! Fredericksburg!"
I say it's in every Northern boy to be standing on Cemetery ridge and say Come try again.
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Shouting "Fredericksburg! Fredericksburg!"
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 10:49 AM (ANIFC)
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Tom Brady is the latest retard to come out against this: THE USE OF PLASTIC STRAWS!!
Anyone want to go into business with me producing "Straws of HATE!" They will be bright red, with conservative quips printed on the paper sleeves.
BTW, aren't most "plastic" straws made out of a cornstarch hybrid, like packing peanuts? I thought they just disintegrated. I'm glad he and Giselle are taking such controversial positions. making a diff w/the hundreds of millions they're worth.
Anyone want to go into business with me producing "Straws of HATE!" They will be bright red, with conservative quips printed on the paper sleeves.
BTW, aren't most "plastic" straws made out of a cornstarch hybrid, like packing peanuts? I thought they just disintegrated. I'm glad he and Giselle are taking such controversial positions. making a diff w/the hundreds of millions they're worth.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 17, 2018 10:49 AM (ty7RM)
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I read Gallows Thief by Bernard Cornwell.
I liked that book even more than his usual series. I hope he does more of this kind of one-off historical stuff that's not based on war.
Barnes and Nobles must have had a good day yesterday
They grabbed one out of their hotel room then later burned them in a pile before the spirit cookoff
I liked that book even more than his usual series. I hope he does more of this kind of one-off historical stuff that's not based on war.
Barnes and Nobles must have had a good day yesterday
They grabbed one out of their hotel room then later burned them in a pile before the spirit cookoff
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2018 10:49 AM (39g3+)
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OM, of course, wears his book-learnin' trousers to bed on Saturday night so he's ready to leap into the book thread on Sunday.
Posted by: hogmartin
Of course.
Posted by: hogmartin
Of course.
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 10:49 AM (EEuOO)
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And her Guns of August, how it played out in the fateful last weeks before WWI started.
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One of my few criticisms of that book is that she ignores the internal political machinations in Austria-Hungary which are not only integral to the start of the war but also very interesting.
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One of my few criticisms of that book is that she ignores the internal political machinations in Austria-Hungary which are not only integral to the start of the war but also very interesting.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 10:49 AM (+y/Ru)
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"to see and hear an ex-president.." Geez lou-weez. I stood in the freeking cold at Baumholder (IFOR pep talk) looking and the red nose rapist, the piaps and Web's daughter while the my First Sargent was swearing under his frosted breath listening to that asshole lie time and time again for this clusterfuck of a mission.
Anyway. *deep breath* I actually had time to read this week, It's S.C. Gwynnes, "Rebel Yell", a bio of Stonewall Jackson. He doesn't necessarily blame the South for the war but blames the length of it on Lincoln and his incompetent generals. Who wouldn't fight with a man, material and industrial advantage.
Jackson himself comes of as an eccentric peace time man who was God and family orientated and understood the Total War concept even before Grant and Sherman burned the South down.
Anyway. *deep breath* I actually had time to read this week, It's S.C. Gwynnes, "Rebel Yell", a bio of Stonewall Jackson. He doesn't necessarily blame the South for the war but blames the length of it on Lincoln and his incompetent generals. Who wouldn't fight with a man, material and industrial advantage.
Jackson himself comes of as an eccentric peace time man who was God and family orientated and understood the Total War concept even before Grant and Sherman burned the South down.
Posted by: auscolpyr at June 17, 2018 10:50 AM (oFsfu)
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"By the way, my comments about untrained Americans at the outset of the Korean War were not meant to fault the soldiers. "
My grandpa was one of the first in, transferred directly from Hawaii. He had already served in Italy in WWII and ended the war in a hospital. I have a DVD of him talking about it. There were a lot of green draftees but regular army too. He said when there was a exceptionally dangerous job he would send regular army guys because he felt sorry for the guys who were forced to be there and didn't sign up for that shit.
My grandpa was one of the first in, transferred directly from Hawaii. He had already served in Italy in WWII and ended the war in a hospital. I have a DVD of him talking about it. There were a lot of green draftees but regular army too. He said when there was a exceptionally dangerous job he would send regular army guys because he felt sorry for the guys who were forced to be there and didn't sign up for that shit.
Posted by: freaked at June 17, 2018 10:50 AM (UdKB7)
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I've read The Guns of August", but not "The Proud Tower". I'll have to add it to my ever-expanding list of books to read when I get around to it.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 10:44 AM (sdi6R)
Add Robert K Massie's "Dreadnought" to the list. Which is about way more than just the ship, it covers much of how England's political and military leadership failed the nation, in the leadup to the war.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 10:44 AM (sdi6R)
Add Robert K Massie's "Dreadnought" to the list. Which is about way more than just the ship, it covers much of how England's political and military leadership failed the nation, in the leadup to the war.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 10:51 AM (cY3LT)
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I have neither the stomach or the patience to watch the sunday am news crap, but are left playing the concentration camp meme?
Posted by: Nevergiveup
You just wanna stick people in the chair upside down.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
You just wanna stick people in the chair upside down.
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 10:51 AM (EEuOO)
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Do not mess with Georgia grannies:
https://tinyurl.com/ya8puhts
https://tinyurl.com/ya8puhts
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 17, 2018 10:51 AM (H80UQ)
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Tom Brady is the latest retard to come out against this: THE USE OF PLASTIC STRAWS!!
I say it's time to ban Tom Brady.
I say it's time to ban Tom Brady.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2018 10:51 AM (EoRCO)
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Pork fat rules
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 10:52 AM (pHfeF)
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Burt: Turn your argument around. If Germany was culpable because of overconfident decisions by the High Command and the Kaiser, then surely Serbia's culpable because of fucking INSANE decisions by the intelligence service.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:52 AM (+v/Sn)
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''Anyone know of any good books covering the Dark/Middle Ages in Europe? Thanks.''
Norman Cantor's 'Civilization in the Middle Ages'' is a great overview of the period.
Norman Cantor's 'Civilization in the Middle Ages'' is a great overview of the period.
Posted by: Tuna at June 17, 2018 10:53 AM (jm1YL)
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There were a couple of different books about the diplomatic goings-on leading up to WWI that were published in the last few years. I meant to read them but haven't done so yet.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 10:53 AM (sdi6R)
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I have neither the stomach or the patience to watch the sunday am news crap, but are left playing the concentration camp meme?
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Yes, with extreme prejudice. And they're doing it with the insane spin, and heart tugging emotional one offs, with no mention that the cute, innocuous title "border crossers" omits "illegal." that IG report is so deep in the MSM memory hole, it won't be sen again.
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Yes, with extreme prejudice. And they're doing it with the insane spin, and heart tugging emotional one offs, with no mention that the cute, innocuous title "border crossers" omits "illegal." that IG report is so deep in the MSM memory hole, it won't be sen again.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 17, 2018 10:53 AM (ty7RM)
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The plastic straw thing cracks me up. I mean, sure plastic is generally not positive for the environment but really, its such a tiny portion of the plastic out there, and like 75% of the crap that gets in the ocean is from China alone, with the bulk of the rest from other Southeast Asian nations like Thailand. Banning plastic straws at McDonald's in Ireland isn't going to do anything but raise costs at McDonald's.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2018 10:53 AM (39g3+)
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I think I have finally thought of an idea to write about for submission to the Appalling Stories sequel. But I admit it is pretty squirrely and uncomfortable to think about.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 10:54 AM (KB4SV)
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The military might create chaos. The military itself is not chaotic.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 17, 2018 10:47 AM (H80UQ)
It was his call sign as commander of 7th Marines. He says it was actually a rolling-eye acronym for "Colonel Has Another Outstanding Solution" and wasn't meant to be some hardass nickname at all.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at June 17, 2018 10:47 AM (H80UQ)
It was his call sign as commander of 7th Marines. He says it was actually a rolling-eye acronym for "Colonel Has Another Outstanding Solution" and wasn't meant to be some hardass nickname at all.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 10:54 AM (fZuhk)
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The underwear thing I've always been willing to give the Clintons a pass on. From what I understand, they were actually long-johns, which I've always understood to be worn over regular underwear and are quite useful in cold weather.
Pretty much anything else I'll cheerfully pile on about the Clintons, but that one always struck me as a tad unfair. And charging for a book signing? That's just downright scummy.
Pretty much anything else I'll cheerfully pile on about the Clintons, but that one always struck me as a tad unfair. And charging for a book signing? That's just downright scummy.
Posted by: Jenos Idanian at June 17, 2018 10:54 AM (haqIS)
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''Anyone know of any good books covering the Dark/Middle Ages in Europe? Thanks.''
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"The Name of the Rose" is pretty good. I guess t's more murder mystery, but shades the times in an interesting way.
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"The Name of the Rose" is pretty good. I guess t's more murder mystery, but shades the times in an interesting way.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 17, 2018 10:55 AM (ty7RM)
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Josephstan - the Wiki article you city has references to at least three relatively recent books. See the 'references' at end of article.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 10:56 AM (KsOxJ)
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Burt: Turn your argument around. If Germany was culpable because of overconfident decisions by the High Command and the Kaiser, then surely Serbia's culpable because of fucking INSANE decisions by the intelligence service.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:52 AM (+v/Sn)
No doubt.
My thinking though is, I would compare this to your average low life drug addled street criminal who walks into a bank and says "this is a stickup," because he's trying to get high.
That's Serbia.
Germany is the Wolf of Wall Street/Bernie Madoff types, who stole billions by thinking they were more clever than everyone else.
I don't hold them equally culpable.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 10:52 AM (+v/Sn)
No doubt.
My thinking though is, I would compare this to your average low life drug addled street criminal who walks into a bank and says "this is a stickup," because he's trying to get high.
That's Serbia.
Germany is the Wolf of Wall Street/Bernie Madoff types, who stole billions by thinking they were more clever than everyone else.
I don't hold them equally culpable.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 10:57 AM (cY3LT)
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Sanford loses and his next move is to go on all the MSM channels to call Trump a liar.
So transparent. He needs a gig with The Borg. Mistresses don't come cheap.
So transparent. He needs a gig with The Borg. Mistresses don't come cheap.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 17, 2018 10:57 AM (pV/54)
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The past few days I've been reading a history of the "White Rajahs" of Sarawak. Great stuff! James Brooke goes out to Brunei looking for trade opportunities, helps the sultan beat up some rivals and put down pirates, and gets given the sovereign rulership of the sultan's most troublesome province.
Over the next century, Sarawak gradually takes over the rest of Brunei, under the rule of Brooke's heirs. And then Japan happened.
Over the next century, Sarawak gradually takes over the rest of Brunei, under the rule of Brooke's heirs. And then Japan happened.
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Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2018 10:51 AM (EoRCO)
Goes to prove the QB's are not generally the brightest bulb in the drawer and they only get dimmer as the effects multiple concussions carry on.
Goes to prove the QB's are not generally the brightest bulb in the drawer and they only get dimmer as the effects multiple concussions carry on.
Posted by: auscolpyr at June 17, 2018 10:58 AM (oFsfu)
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Insomniac- If you're in here or out there and if you stepped on a banana peel and went 3 blocks bending and twisting and contorting while trying to re-gain your balance and now the producers of "So you think You Can Dance want you to team up with Charlotte McKinney and Kate Upton and bill yourselves as "The Dancing Sammich" just know that we're all pullin' for you.
Maybe not the "Ettes" so much.
Maybe not the "Ettes" so much.
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 10:58 AM (EEuOO)
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Anyone know of any good books covering the Dark/Middle Ages in Europe? Thanks.
Posted by: TheCentralScrutinizer at June 17, 2018 10:44 AM (l0EgF)
Barbara Tuchman's A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century is very good.
Posted by: TheCentralScrutinizer at June 17, 2018 10:44 AM (l0EgF)
Barbara Tuchman's A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century is very good.
Posted by: cool breeze at June 17, 2018 10:58 AM (UGKMd)
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219 It's a question I have wondered for years here. Why can't threads be canned and set to release at a exact time like it seems some websites do?
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 10:39 AM (pHfeF)
#TwoWeeks
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 10:39 AM (pHfeF)
#TwoWeeks
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 10:59 AM (I3yXU)
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"concentration camp meme"
It's completely absurd. those kids have it better than they ever had. Still, I don't think we should be housing them and they should be reunited with their parents asap and headed South of the border on the next available bus.
It's completely absurd. those kids have it better than they ever had. Still, I don't think we should be housing them and they should be reunited with their parents asap and headed South of the border on the next available bus.
Posted by: freaked at June 17, 2018 10:59 AM (UdKB7)
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Does not even have to be concussions, all a man needs to become a bluterhing idiot is to let the axillary brain become dominant.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 11:00 AM (KB4SV)
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If you're interested in the middle ages, try Tuchman's A Distant Mirror, and Holland's Millennium. Both are excellent. Holland made me briefly believe I understood the politics of the Holy Roman Empire.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 17, 2018 11:00 AM (+v/Sn)
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It's completely absurd. those kids have it better than they ever had. Still, I don't think we should be housing them and they should be reunited with their parents asap and headed South of the border on the next available bus.
Posted by: freaked at June 17, 2018 10:59 AM (UdKB7)
When American Citizens commit a crime and are jailed, do we send their kids with them? Or let them out because they have kids? NO
So why should we give illegal scum who broke the law multiple times more rights than any American?
Posted by: freaked at June 17, 2018 10:59 AM (UdKB7)
When American Citizens commit a crime and are jailed, do we send their kids with them? Or let them out because they have kids? NO
So why should we give illegal scum who broke the law multiple times more rights than any American?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 11:00 AM (Ydx5u)
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Goes to prove the QB's are not generally the brightest bulb in the drawer and they only get dimmer as the effects multiple concussions carry on.
Posted by: auscolpyr at June 17, 2018 10:58 AM (oFsfu)
THAT'S FUNNY BECAUSE...
UH...
UM...
NEVER MIND.
Posted by: auscolpyr at June 17, 2018 10:58 AM (oFsfu)
THAT'S FUNNY BECAUSE...
UH...
UM...
NEVER MIND.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at June 17, 2018 11:00 AM (I3yXU)
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If you laid all the discarded plastic straws end-to-end you could sip a Mai Tai all the way from China.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 17, 2018 11:01 AM (m45I2)
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Yeah, the name is familiar, in the deeper recesses of my brain.
So yeah, I think it's probably a matter of semantics. My overall view is that Serbia was too stupid to be "orchestrating" anything, but with all sorts of loose shit going on, in and outside their government, one could certainly suggest they had some culpability here.
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Serbia did not have a master plan. They wanted a greater south Slav empire (and they got it (Yugoslavia means Southern Slavs) but at a terrible price. A greater percentage of their country were casualties than any other). In my opinion, the fact that they had no master plan is not a mitigator but an aggravator. Their plan was let's upset the chess board and maybe when they put the pieces back we'll be in a better position than we are now. That comes damn close to evil in my book.
So yeah, I think it's probably a matter of semantics. My overall view is that Serbia was too stupid to be "orchestrating" anything, but with all sorts of loose shit going on, in and outside their government, one could certainly suggest they had some culpability here.
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Serbia did not have a master plan. They wanted a greater south Slav empire (and they got it (Yugoslavia means Southern Slavs) but at a terrible price. A greater percentage of their country were casualties than any other). In my opinion, the fact that they had no master plan is not a mitigator but an aggravator. Their plan was let's upset the chess board and maybe when they put the pieces back we'll be in a better position than we are now. That comes damn close to evil in my book.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 11:02 AM (+y/Ru)
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When did this web site go to total shit? Amazing. It is not worth reading anymore. Not because of it's philosophy but because it has no content anymore.
Posted by: WJ at June 17, 2018 11:02 AM (UYfeJ)
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OM, of course, wears his book-learnin' trousers to bed on Saturday night so he's ready to leap into the book thread on Sunday.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 10:45 AM (fZuhk)
You have discovered the secret to my hidden wisdom.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 10:45 AM (fZuhk)
You have discovered the secret to my hidden wisdom.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:02 AM (I3yXU)
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Am I right? Once an illegal gets over the border they gain a kind of status, with rights of process. We can't just ship them back. We can let 'em loose with a court date or jail them. Obama did the first, with a cab ride to anywhere in the US. Trump is doing the second.
Now what do you do with the kids?
Message to Central America is don't bring kids. No more advantage.
Now what do you do with the kids?
Message to Central America is don't bring kids. No more advantage.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 17, 2018 11:02 AM (pV/54)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 11:03 AM (Ydx5u)
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"So why should we give illegal scum who broke the law multiple times more rights than any American? "
I don't want any of them here for any length of time. As soon as they are found they should be back on the bus headed for the far end of Mexico.
I don't want any of them here for any length of time. As soon as they are found they should be back on the bus headed for the far end of Mexico.
Posted by: freaked at June 17, 2018 11:03 AM (UdKB7)
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Barbara Tuchman's A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century is very good.
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Caveat lector. It's very grim.
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Caveat lector. It's very grim.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 11:03 AM (+y/Ru)
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The underwear thing I've always been willing to give the Clintons a pass on. From what I understand, they were actually long-johns, which I've always understood to be worn over regular underwear and are quite useful in cold weather.
Posted by: Jenos Idanian at June 17, 2018 10:54 AM (haqIS)
That doesn't exactly endear them to me. What sort of vulgar boorish jackanapes wears anything less than the finest eelskin drawers?
Posted by: Jenos Idanian at June 17, 2018 10:54 AM (haqIS)
That doesn't exactly endear them to me. What sort of vulgar boorish jackanapes wears anything less than the finest eelskin drawers?
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 11:04 AM (fZuhk)
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I don't want any of them here for any length of time. As soon as they are found they should be back on the bus headed for the far end of Mexico.
Posted by: freaked at June 17, 2018 11:03 AM (UdKB7)
I got no problem with that
I don't want any of them here for any length of time. As soon as they are found they should be back on the bus headed for the far end of Mexico.
Posted by: freaked at June 17, 2018 11:03 AM (UdKB7)
I got no problem with that
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 11:04 AM (Ydx5u)
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 17, 2018 11:04 AM (2txvL)
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Nothing is more empty of meaning than Nietzsche's Abyss unless a troll spouts off.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 11:04 AM (KB4SV)
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Per BurtTC, the krauts had war gamed out WW1 to the point that they seriously believed they could win it very very quickly.
Oops!
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 17, 2018 10:25 AM (y7DUB)
Moltke the Younger watered-down the von Schlieffen Plan and weakened the strong right flank going into the Low Countries in order to reinforce the left flank and the forces facing the Russians.
Oops!
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 17, 2018 10:25 AM (y7DUB)
Moltke the Younger watered-down the von Schlieffen Plan and weakened the strong right flank going into the Low Countries in order to reinforce the left flank and the forces facing the Russians.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 11:04 AM (5Yee7)
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282 When did this web site go to total shit?
About the time you showed up.
Amazing. It is not worth reading anymore.
Posted by: WJ at June 17, 2018 11:02 AM (UYfeJ)
Then you need to be elsewhere.
Buh-bye!
About the time you showed up.
Amazing. It is not worth reading anymore.
Posted by: WJ at June 17, 2018 11:02 AM (UYfeJ)
Then you need to be elsewhere.
Buh-bye!
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:04 AM (I3yXU)
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"because it has no content anymore."
impossible. just add valurite and the site makes it's own content.
impossible. just add valurite and the site makes it's own content.
Posted by: freaked at June 17, 2018 11:05 AM (UdKB7)
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When did this web site go to total shit? Amazing. It is not worth reading anymore. Not because of it's philosophy but because it has no content anymore.
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Whaaa? In depth analysis of the cause of WWI and dick jokes and you want more?!
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Whaaa? In depth analysis of the cause of WWI and dick jokes and you want more?!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 11:05 AM (+y/Ru)
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Is that who I think it is ?
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 11:06 AM (EEuOO)
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Posted by: WJ at June 17, 2018 11:02 AM (UYfeJ)
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If you want I can tell some Uranus jokes.
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If you want I can tell some Uranus jokes.
Posted by: Weasel at June 17, 2018 11:06 AM (MVjcR)
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Goes to prove the QB's are not generally the brightest bulb in the drawer and they only get dimmer as the effects multiple concussions carry on.
Posted by: auscolpyr at June 17, 2018 10:58 AM (oFsfu)
Yup...if they are not calling for the banning of plastic straws they are out raping someone in a bathroom or kneeling because of imaginary raycism.
Where have you gone, Joe Kapp, a nation turns it's lonely eyes to you.
Posted by: auscolpyr at June 17, 2018 10:58 AM (oFsfu)
Yup...if they are not calling for the banning of plastic straws they are out raping someone in a bathroom or kneeling because of imaginary raycism.
Where have you gone, Joe Kapp, a nation turns it's lonely eyes to you.
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So fuckin leave
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 11:03 AM (Ydx5u)
I, for one, am grateful that he dropped by to let us all know that the site has no content. It had completely escaped my notice!
So fuckin leave
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 11:03 AM (Ydx5u)
I, for one, am grateful that he dropped by to let us all know that the site has no content. It had completely escaped my notice!
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 11:06 AM (sdi6R)
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Hate being repetitive, but... re: Middle Ages --- Try Tuchman's 'A Distant Mirror' for 13th century France/England. It can be a challenging (and tedious) read with all the geneological details tracing lineages back and forth across The Channel but it is worth the effort.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 11:07 AM (KsOxJ)
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We must've been too busy reading.......
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 11:08 AM (EEuOO)
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From what I understand, they were actually long-johns,
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Thanks so much for the visual image of an outhouse cellar's view of Grandma Hillary in a red flannel drop-bottom union suit!!
I may have to claw my eyes out.
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Thanks so much for the visual image of an outhouse cellar's view of Grandma Hillary in a red flannel drop-bottom union suit!!
I may have to claw my eyes out.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 17, 2018 11:09 AM (m45I2)
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What sort of vulgar boorish jackanapes wears anything less than the finest eelskin drawers?
Slimy side in is way sexier than slimy side out. Oooh!
Slimy side in is way sexier than slimy side out. Oooh!
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 11:10 AM (fuK7c)
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Thanks so much for the visual image of an outhouse cellar's view of Grandma Hillary in a red flannel drop-bottom union suit!!
I may have to claw my eyes out.
Posted by: Muldoon
Surely that calls for a...a....whaddyacallit
I may have to claw my eyes out.
Posted by: Muldoon
Surely that calls for a...a....whaddyacallit
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 11:10 AM (EEuOO)
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Tom Brady is the latest retard to come out against this: THE USE OF PLASTIC STRAWS!!
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They can have my straw when they pry it from my cold, dead lips.
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They can have my straw when they pry it from my cold, dead lips.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 11:10 AM (+y/Ru)
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259 ... Not a book as such but The Great Courses has a series of three courses about the Middle Ages that I found helpful. They often are on sale. They were especially beneficial since I read a lot of CS Lewis essays about literature during that period.
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 11:10 AM (V+03K)
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267 Josephstan - the Wiki article you city has references to at least three relatively recent books. See the 'references' at end of article.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 10:56 AM (KsOxJ)
Those seem to be on the Mid East theatre in general, but not the Persian Campaign specifically. Gen. Moberly's account is a first hand account, which has its advantages & disadvantages, and the 2006 book is a compilation of essays - and runs at nearly $100!
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 10:56 AM (KsOxJ)
Those seem to be on the Mid East theatre in general, but not the Persian Campaign specifically. Gen. Moberly's account is a first hand account, which has its advantages & disadvantages, and the 2006 book is a compilation of essays - and runs at nearly $100!
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 11:11 AM (ANIFC)
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Nap time !
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 11:12 AM (EEuOO)
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Posted by: WJ at June 17, 2018 11:02 AM (UYfeJ)
Hey man, long time! What's up with you? Not much here. Jeane and I just moved into one of those manufactured homes. She was pushing for this big old Victorian deal, but I took one look at the price tag and knew it wasn't going to work. This gig isn't exactly the cash cow I thought it would be, but my parole officer says it's the healthiest thing he's ever heard of, and last time I argued with him I got eight weeks in the Hole. So anyway, I said to Jeane, "Baby, I want a home that's as flimsy and fabricated as our relationship." She's a kidder, Jeane. Likes jokes like that. She didn't actually laugh out loud. The laughter was in her eyes. You notice things like that when you've been together as many weeks as we have.
Anyway, like I said, not much going on here. Jeane keeps saying she wants to meet people in our new neighborhood, but I'm not much of a social butterfly so I try to avoid that stuff. I had this great plan to bring the neighbors over by spraying their kids with the garden hose. I managed to knock one of them off his bike while he was riding past, and when I saw his parents come running I thought Jeane would be thrilled. But all they would talk about was how their kid lost an eye when he fell on the fire hydrant, and Jeane didn't talk to me for days. Women!
Well, I certainly can go on about myself. Glad to hear you're doing well. Jeane sends her love to Kim and the kids, and we both hope that twelve-step thing is working out for the two of you. Keep in touch.
xoxo hogmartin
Hey man, long time! What's up with you? Not much here. Jeane and I just moved into one of those manufactured homes. She was pushing for this big old Victorian deal, but I took one look at the price tag and knew it wasn't going to work. This gig isn't exactly the cash cow I thought it would be, but my parole officer says it's the healthiest thing he's ever heard of, and last time I argued with him I got eight weeks in the Hole. So anyway, I said to Jeane, "Baby, I want a home that's as flimsy and fabricated as our relationship." She's a kidder, Jeane. Likes jokes like that. She didn't actually laugh out loud. The laughter was in her eyes. You notice things like that when you've been together as many weeks as we have.
Anyway, like I said, not much going on here. Jeane keeps saying she wants to meet people in our new neighborhood, but I'm not much of a social butterfly so I try to avoid that stuff. I had this great plan to bring the neighbors over by spraying their kids with the garden hose. I managed to knock one of them off his bike while he was riding past, and when I saw his parents come running I thought Jeane would be thrilled. But all they would talk about was how their kid lost an eye when he fell on the fire hydrant, and Jeane didn't talk to me for days. Women!
Well, I certainly can go on about myself. Glad to hear you're doing well. Jeane sends her love to Kim and the kids, and we both hope that twelve-step thing is working out for the two of you. Keep in touch.
xoxo hogmartin
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 11:12 AM (fZuhk)
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Promised I'd mention it: the Glasgow library of Charles Rennie Mackintosh burned two days ago, for the second time in five years. Close to 30 million pounds of restoration, back up in smoke.
https://tinyurl.com/yacyenf8
https://tinyurl.com/yacyenf8
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 17, 2018 11:12 AM (H5rtT)
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Grow little God Worm fatter, fatter
Put more melange upon your platter
You were once Leto Atreides
Now you're wormy and rough on the ladies
You will be assassinated
Dissolved in water - You been Kool-aided
But you were following the Golden Path
Thanks Leto for all the laughs
*bows*
*exits stage right*
Posted by: naturalfake at June 17, 2018 09:06 AM (9q7Dl)
Bravo!
Put more melange upon your platter
You were once Leto Atreides
Now you're wormy and rough on the ladies
You will be assassinated
Dissolved in water - You been Kool-aided
But you were following the Golden Path
Thanks Leto for all the laughs
*bows*
*exits stage right*
Posted by: naturalfake at June 17, 2018 09:06 AM (9q7Dl)
Bravo!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2018 11:13 AM (WFV7d)
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I guess this is Father's Day.
"You may not like Donald Trump but from what little I know of the ways of the world, I would venture a guess that people would rather have a strong leader than a weak one. The pull of self-preservation is that strong. Trump will take a bullet for you. Obama will use you as a human shield."
https://t.co/WJBJNX4PmP
"You may not like Donald Trump but from what little I know of the ways of the world, I would venture a guess that people would rather have a strong leader than a weak one. The pull of self-preservation is that strong. Trump will take a bullet for you. Obama will use you as a human shield."
https://t.co/WJBJNX4PmP
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:14 AM (I3yXU)
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House work beckons. See you later.
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 11:16 AM (ANIFC)
Posted by: freaked at June 17, 2018 11:17 AM (UdKB7)
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The tragedy of August 1914 is that EVERYONE had perfectly sound, moral reasons for starting the war.
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Everybody thought they were acting in self defense. That's what's so terrifying about it.
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Everybody thought they were acting in self defense. That's what's so terrifying about it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 11:18 AM (+y/Ru)
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Promised I'd mention it: the Glasgow library of Charles Rennie Mackintosh burned two days ago, for the second time in five years
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I could be wrong, but maybe the Muzzies figured out how to really gut Western Civ.
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I could be wrong, but maybe the Muzzies figured out how to really gut Western Civ.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 17, 2018 11:20 AM (ty7RM)
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I approve of the quiet, understated geeky elegance of Fritzworth's technical library. The Banzai institute office sign, the corbomite Han, the blue bottle of time-travel sickness pills, and the Holy Book, the CRC Handbook of Chemical and Physical Constants *genuflucts*
I'd be curious how many of the mouthbreathing Horde have a copy of the CRC manual. (but how many read it for fun?) Try reading the origin of the element names, it is a hoot. Except for Ytterbium/Terbium/Yttrium. That is a classic example of laziness and the committee should have sent them home to try again. I actually *worked* with Ytterbium and having to keep it straight with its other two name-clones was a nightmare.
I'd be curious how many of the mouthbreathing Horde have a copy of the CRC manual. (but how many read it for fun?) Try reading the origin of the element names, it is a hoot. Except for Ytterbium/Terbium/Yttrium. That is a classic example of laziness and the committee should have sent them home to try again. I actually *worked* with Ytterbium and having to keep it straight with its other two name-clones was a nightmare.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at June 17, 2018 11:20 AM (L59/U)
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Thanks so much for the shout-out, OM!
I've been to a lot of signings, for myself and for huge best-selling authors, and no one ever charges for admission. The venue is hoping you will buy books to have signed, but there is no requirement.
I've been to a lot of signings, for myself and for huge best-selling authors, and no one ever charges for admission. The venue is hoping you will buy books to have signed, but there is no requirement.
Posted by: artemis at June 17, 2018 11:22 AM (AwPyG)
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Husband and I are still RVing across the country and our daughter sent a copy of the new Stephen King for me to read. I haven't read King in ages and won't buy anything he writes since he lost his mind, but I told her I would try it. It wasn't bad, a lot like any if his previous books. But it passed the time going through North Dakota. I'm going to start "Three men in a boat". It will take me to Wyoming. I'm anxious to read it.
Posted by: Abby at June 17, 2018 11:24 AM (dhtMb)
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https://t.co/WJBJNX4PmP
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:14 AM (I3yXU)
A link in your link:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/zdxm4nr
Wow, I don't remember that. Probably because I was trying to avoid any sight and sound of Obama.
https://t.co/WJBJNX4PmP
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:14 AM (I3yXU)
A link in your link:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/zdxm4nr
Wow, I don't remember that. Probably because I was trying to avoid any sight and sound of Obama.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 11:24 AM (sdi6R)
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I still contend though, the Germans knew damn well there was no way ANY nation, even one as unworthy of being called a nation as Serbia, was going to be able to go along with the demands being made on them.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 10:37 AM (cY3LT)
Perhaps you can explain what was so unreasonable about what was, in essence, an internal matter of the Austro-Hungarian empire.
"According to the terms of the ultimatum delivered on July 23, the Serbian government would have to accept an Austro-Hungarian inquiry into the assassination, notwithstanding its claim that it was already conducting its own internal investigation. Serbia was also to suppress all anti-Austrian propaganda and take steps to root out and eliminate terrorist organizations within its borders- one such organization, the Black Hand, was believed to have aided and abetted the archduke's killer, Gavrila Principe, and his cohorts, providing weapons and safe passage from Belgrade to Sarajevo. The Dual Monarchy demanded an answer to note within 48 hours."
What is so dramatic about any of this that Russia would feel the necessity for mobilization, especially since Serbia was basically an economic vassal of the AH government? Serbia was one of the shitholes of Europe. For Christ's sake, someone from Serbia had just assassinated the future Emperor. England threw Czechoslovakia to Germany to avoid war 25 years later and Czechoslovakia was much more of an asset than Serbia. And then, why would the British and French feel the need to involve their countries in what became the most destructive war to date? Why, because the governments of Europe wanted war. And more importantly, because the Central Banks wanted war. And war is just good business!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 10:37 AM (cY3LT)
Perhaps you can explain what was so unreasonable about what was, in essence, an internal matter of the Austro-Hungarian empire.
"According to the terms of the ultimatum delivered on July 23, the Serbian government would have to accept an Austro-Hungarian inquiry into the assassination, notwithstanding its claim that it was already conducting its own internal investigation. Serbia was also to suppress all anti-Austrian propaganda and take steps to root out and eliminate terrorist organizations within its borders- one such organization, the Black Hand, was believed to have aided and abetted the archduke's killer, Gavrila Principe, and his cohorts, providing weapons and safe passage from Belgrade to Sarajevo. The Dual Monarchy demanded an answer to note within 48 hours."
What is so dramatic about any of this that Russia would feel the necessity for mobilization, especially since Serbia was basically an economic vassal of the AH government? Serbia was one of the shitholes of Europe. For Christ's sake, someone from Serbia had just assassinated the future Emperor. England threw Czechoslovakia to Germany to avoid war 25 years later and Czechoslovakia was much more of an asset than Serbia. And then, why would the British and French feel the need to involve their countries in what became the most destructive war to date? Why, because the governments of Europe wanted war. And more importantly, because the Central Banks wanted war. And war is just good business!
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 17, 2018 11:25 AM (9BLnV)
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The tragedy of August 1914 is that EVERYONE had perfectly sound, moral reasons for starting the war.
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If you're ever in KC, the WWI museum is AMAZING. Absolute, do not miss. Well worth the pilgrimage if you're 5 hours away. It's subterranean, and you start in a circle that tracks the war chronologically. What struck me:
-How fractured and transitional Europe was at the time, really caught up between monarchy, dictatorship and modern liberal democracy. All within miles of each other
-How brutal trench warfare was. there's an immersive part of the museum, and it put chills in me
-How late America was to the fight.
-The fact that the influenza epidemic (1919?) killed scores more than the war
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If you're ever in KC, the WWI museum is AMAZING. Absolute, do not miss. Well worth the pilgrimage if you're 5 hours away. It's subterranean, and you start in a circle that tracks the war chronologically. What struck me:
-How fractured and transitional Europe was at the time, really caught up between monarchy, dictatorship and modern liberal democracy. All within miles of each other
-How brutal trench warfare was. there's an immersive part of the museum, and it put chills in me
-How late America was to the fight.
-The fact that the influenza epidemic (1919?) killed scores more than the war
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 17, 2018 11:26 AM (ty7RM)
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A lot of people do their best thinking in the shower. Not me I'm quick in and out, but a lot of people do think in the shower.
So why would pants be required for intelligent commentary on this thread, however, hoity-toity it is.
I'm now all pantsed up, BTW.
So why would pants be required for intelligent commentary on this thread, however, hoity-toity it is.
I'm now all pantsed up, BTW.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at June 17, 2018 11:26 AM (nBr1j)
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Abby - wifey and i are considering the same. What kind of RV do you own?
Posted by: One of Those Guys at June 17, 2018 11:28 AM (wTD0g)
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Nellie Ohr, wife of demoted FBI deputy Director Bruce Ohr, worked for Fusion GPS during the time the Trump dossier was created. Bruce Ohr was demoted for hiding his relationship with Fusion GPS and Trump dossier author Steele. Sixty-year-old Nellie just happened to apply for a HAM radio license one month after Fusion got the gig to create the Trump dossier.
Posted by: cool breeze at June 17, 2018 09:26 AM (UGKMd)
I have to wonder about that. If she were trying to avoid surveillance, why did she apply for a license, and put her name in the public records? If she were using radio to communicate with her co-conspirators, why bother having a license? Practically nobody using CB radio these days has a license, and the FCC mostly ignores it. As long as your use of the band doesn't adversely affect users of other services they basically don't police it anymore.
Of course, she's a leftard, so there is a non-zero chance that shes's not very bright.
Posted by: cool breeze at June 17, 2018 09:26 AM (UGKMd)
I have to wonder about that. If she were trying to avoid surveillance, why did she apply for a license, and put her name in the public records? If she were using radio to communicate with her co-conspirators, why bother having a license? Practically nobody using CB radio these days has a license, and the FCC mostly ignores it. As long as your use of the band doesn't adversely affect users of other services they basically don't police it anymore.
Of course, she's a leftard, so there is a non-zero chance that shes's not very bright.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2018 11:28 AM (WFV7d)
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AIBOHPHOBIA - a limerick
My melancholy surely is showing
Off to exile alas I am rowing
Able was I ere
I saw Elba, dear.
I don't know if I'm coming or going!
AIBOHPHOBIA - a limerick
My melancholy surely is showing
Off to exile alas I am rowing
Able was I ere
I saw Elba, dear.
I don't know if I'm coming or going!
Posted by: Muldoon at June 17, 2018 11:28 AM (m45I2)
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I hate to be "that guy", but I don't think "aibohohibia" is a palindrome.....
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 17, 2018 11:28 AM (5AVMW)
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Barbara Tuchman's A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century is very good.
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Caveat lector. It's very grim.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 11:03 AM (+y/Ru)
Was anyone expecting a lighthearted account of the Black Plague and the Hundred Years' War?
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Caveat lector. It's very grim.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 11:03 AM (+y/Ru)
Was anyone expecting a lighthearted account of the Black Plague and the Hundred Years' War?
Posted by: cool breeze at June 17, 2018 11:29 AM (UGKMd)
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Oregon Muse, this from Powerline might provide some thoughtful contemplation.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/06/how-to-read-a-book.php
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/06/how-to-read-a-book.php
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 11:29 AM (KB4SV)
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I should be heading off to church in a minute but the preacher today is a missionary I met while in The Philippines. He didn't impress me as a person.
No big deal but I didn't like him.
My wife had just died and he did nothing but natter one about himself.
That didn't impress me so I'm dawdling.
No big deal but I didn't like him.
My wife had just died and he did nothing but natter one about himself.
That didn't impress me so I'm dawdling.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at June 17, 2018 11:30 AM (nBr1j)
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I could have--and maybe should have--said I'm off to church anon. That sounds all literary and intelligent and like something I'd have to be wearing pants to say.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at June 17, 2018 11:32 AM (nBr1j)
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I'm starting my yearly re-read of Shelby Foote's Civil War Narrative and I'm looking around for similar books.
Any opinions on Anthony Beevor's 'The Second World War'?
Any opinions on Anthony Beevor's 'The Second World War'?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:33 AM (xJa6I)
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Unless thou goest yawning to hither church.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 11:33 AM (KB4SV)
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And there are a few authors that charge admission for book readings, or that the bookstore charges. (I suspect the author is behind it, in either case)
It's unusual and the fees are usually nominal, $5 or $10.
Some authors do charge for autographs as well, but usually only huge, successful pricks.
It's unusual and the fees are usually nominal, $5 or $10.
Some authors do charge for autographs as well, but usually only huge, successful pricks.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:35 AM (xJa6I)
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Don't know diddly about Beevor - but VDH's latest is great.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 11:35 AM (KsOxJ)
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Just to be thorough, many people thought it couldn't happen because of how closely related the monarchs were.
Czar Nicholas and Kaiser Wilhelm were look-alike cousins, Victoria's grandkids.
Czar Nicholas and Kaiser Wilhelm were look-alike cousins, Victoria's grandkids.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 11:36 AM (fuK7c)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:37 AM (I3yXU)
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Ha! That's a NeXT manual up on the case, probably up there 20 or more years. It was an operating system that replaced the old Mac operating system, years ahead of it's time.
Yeah, I coded the original.
Yeah, I coded the original.
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at June 17, 2018 11:39 AM (gqWCa)
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Matt "Guitar" Murphy, best known as one of the stalwarts of the Blues Brothers Band and a renowned sideman with Howlin' Wolf, Memphis Slim, Muddy Waters, James Cotton and many others, has died. He was 88 and his death was confirmed by his nephew, Floyd Murphy Jr., on Facebook.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 09:37 AM (+y/Ru)
Aw shit. I met Matt on several occasions when he toured Alberta with his band. A fine gentleman. A memorable incident comes to mind. He was playing at the King Eddy in 19-mumble-mumble, and he and the band were on stage, playing an extended, jazzy excursion on a blues standard. Some clown at a table near the stage hollered, "Play some blues, dammit!" Matt stopped right then and there, and tore strip off the jerk. "That is the blues, you fool. Jazz is blues, and blues is jazz. They were born joined at the hip." Then he and the band picked up where they left off. Crowd gave him a standing ovation, too.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 09:37 AM (+y/Ru)
Aw shit. I met Matt on several occasions when he toured Alberta with his band. A fine gentleman. A memorable incident comes to mind. He was playing at the King Eddy in 19-mumble-mumble, and he and the band were on stage, playing an extended, jazzy excursion on a blues standard. Some clown at a table near the stage hollered, "Play some blues, dammit!" Matt stopped right then and there, and tore strip off the jerk. "That is the blues, you fool. Jazz is blues, and blues is jazz. They were born joined at the hip." Then he and the band picked up where they left off. Crowd gave him a standing ovation, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2018 11:39 AM (WFV7d)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 11:39 AM (fuK7c)
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Good turnout this morning.
Thanks to all who looked into The Mountain Throne last week. I'd welcome reviews, if you're ready. Esp. on Amazon.
Thanks to all who looked into The Mountain Throne last week. I'd welcome reviews, if you're ready. Esp. on Amazon.
Posted by: Apostate at June 17, 2018 11:39 AM (z2FAZ)
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Another MSM writer engages in fabulaism.
Boston Globe columnist Kevin Cullen has been suspended without pay for three months after "serious violations" in remarks he made about the Boston Marathon bombings - a penalty his union says he's going to fight.
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The Globe announced last night Cullen will be demoted to general assignment reporter for the first two months upon his return before being allowed to write his column again.
The suspension comes after Cullen was called out by WEEI's Kirk Minihane for embellishing his reporting of the Boston Marathon bombings - including a broadcast report of him supposedly urging a city firefighter to come out for a drink the night of the bombings.
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He makes shit up so they're making him a reporter.
Boston Globe columnist Kevin Cullen has been suspended without pay for three months after "serious violations" in remarks he made about the Boston Marathon bombings - a penalty his union says he's going to fight.
. . . .
The Globe announced last night Cullen will be demoted to general assignment reporter for the first two months upon his return before being allowed to write his column again.
The suspension comes after Cullen was called out by WEEI's Kirk Minihane for embellishing his reporting of the Boston Marathon bombings - including a broadcast report of him supposedly urging a city firefighter to come out for a drink the night of the bombings.
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He makes shit up so they're making him a reporter.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 11:39 AM (+y/Ru)
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339 Just to be thorough, many people thought it couldn't happen because of how closely related the monarchs were.
Czar Nicholas and Kaiser Wilhelm were look-alike cousins, Victoria's grandkids.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 11:36 AM (fuK7c)
So WWI was a family spat that got out of hand? That's believable. Although in my family, it usually took the form of people not speaking to each other for years at a time.
Czar Nicholas and Kaiser Wilhelm were look-alike cousins, Victoria's grandkids.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 11:36 AM (fuK7c)
So WWI was a family spat that got out of hand? That's believable. Although in my family, it usually took the form of people not speaking to each other for years at a time.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 11:40 AM (sdi6R)
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Any opinions on Anthony Beevor's 'The Second World War'?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:33 AM (xJa6I)
No, but his D-Day book is essentially: The Brits did all the hard work/Monty was a genius who did nothing wrong; The Americans were bumbling fools, and it's generals, especially Ike and Bradley, had no idea what they were doing.
I'm really not exaggerating.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:33 AM (xJa6I)
No, but his D-Day book is essentially: The Brits did all the hard work/Monty was a genius who did nothing wrong; The Americans were bumbling fools, and it's generals, especially Ike and Bradley, had no idea what they were doing.
I'm really not exaggerating.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 11:41 AM (cY3LT)
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165 Trump could do the same thing Reagan did and pour some money into that evil Military-Industrial-Complex and build some, for real, star wars stuff.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 17, 2018 10:14 AM (roQNm)
He is. I work for a DoD contractor and we've seen over 25% growth in the military accounts in one year.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 10:19 AM (5Yee7)
Good to see the Chicoms got a research boost.
165 Trump could do the same thing Reagan did and pour some money into that evil Military-Industrial-Complex and build some, for real, star wars stuff.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 17, 2018 10:14 AM (roQNm)
He is. I work for a DoD contractor and we've seen over 25% growth in the military accounts in one year.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 10:19 AM (5Yee7)
Good to see the Chicoms got a research boost.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 17, 2018 11:41 AM (e1mEI)
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Read Mud, Blood, and Poppycock by Gordon Corrigan. It's not really about the ins and outs of WWi but about what he calls the myths that have grown up around it. For example: I'd heard about the Zimmerman telegram that led to the entry of the USA into the war but had the impression that even today there was some question about its authenticity. Turns out that there were more than one, and that Zimmerman himself admitted in a press conference in Berlin that they were authentic. And that was what provided the catalyst.
Posted by: Lirio100 at June 17, 2018 11:42 AM (JK7Jw)
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Just to be thorough, many people thought it couldn't happen because of how closely related the monarchs were.
Czar Nicholas and Kaiser Wilhelm were look-alike cousins, Victoria's grandkids.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 11:36 AM (fuK7c)
So WWI was a family spat that got out of hand? That's believable. Although in my family, it usually took the form of people not speaking to each other for years at a time.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 11:40 AM (sdi6R)
Actually, the monarchs had almost nothing to do with it. They thought they ran their respective countries. That war, and the fact that it got started in the first place, showed them otherwise.
Czar Nicholas and Kaiser Wilhelm were look-alike cousins, Victoria's grandkids.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 11:36 AM (fuK7c)
So WWI was a family spat that got out of hand? That's believable. Although in my family, it usually took the form of people not speaking to each other for years at a time.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 11:40 AM (sdi6R)
Actually, the monarchs had almost nothing to do with it. They thought they ran their respective countries. That war, and the fact that it got started in the first place, showed them otherwise.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 11:42 AM (cY3LT)
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312 I guess this is Father's Day.
"You may not like Donald Trump but from what little I know of the ways of the world, I would venture a guess that people would rather have a strong leader than a weak one. The pull of self-preservation is that strong. Trump will take a bullet for you. Obama will use you as a human shield."
https://t.co/WJBJNX4PmP
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:14 AM (I3yXU)
Don Surber is also a fun read, always.
"You may not like Donald Trump but from what little I know of the ways of the world, I would venture a guess that people would rather have a strong leader than a weak one. The pull of self-preservation is that strong. Trump will take a bullet for you. Obama will use you as a human shield."
https://t.co/WJBJNX4PmP
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:14 AM (I3yXU)
Don Surber is also a fun read, always.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:43 AM (xJa6I)
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Extreme body modification: Amputees risk DEATH by cutting off OWN limbs...
https://bit.ly/2MvRrKR
Small price to pay to be cool.
https://bit.ly/2MvRrKR
Small price to pay to be cool.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 11:44 AM (+y/Ru)
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The Z-Gram of the Great War, now it is the Deimoscr@ps who are offering whole swathes of the United States to Mexico.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 11:44 AM (KB4SV)
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312 I guess this is Father's Day.
"You may not like Donald Trump but from what little I know of the ways of the world, I would venture a guess that people would rather have a strong leader than a weak one. The pull of self-preservation is that strong. Trump will take a bullet for you. Obama will use you as a human shield."
https://t.co/WJBJNX4PmP
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:14 AM (I3yXU)
Ok, that's a....really bad sign. Must be a Brit author.
Thanks for the warning, sounds like he's not the next Shelby Foote.
"You may not like Donald Trump but from what little I know of the ways of the world, I would venture a guess that people would rather have a strong leader than a weak one. The pull of self-preservation is that strong. Trump will take a bullet for you. Obama will use you as a human shield."
https://t.co/WJBJNX4PmP
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:14 AM (I3yXU)
Ok, that's a....really bad sign. Must be a Brit author.
Thanks for the warning, sounds like he's not the next Shelby Foote.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:44 AM (xJa6I)
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Beevor's take on Ardennes is similar: Brits saved the day. He fumbles the entire Peiper action as well, which, to be fair, the other major authors do as well (McDonald, Merriam, Toland, Eisenhower).
Posted by: One of Those Guys at June 17, 2018 11:44 AM (wTD0g)
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Wow, I don't remember that. Probably because I was trying to avoid any sight and sound of Obama.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 11:24 AM (sdi6R)
So, other countries treat Obama like the dick that he is. What a surprise.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 11:24 AM (sdi6R)
So, other countries treat Obama like the dick that he is. What a surprise.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:45 AM (I3yXU)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 11:45 AM (+y/Ru)
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Asshole supreme Rob Reiner is on Fox, and displaying his talent of not being able to speak without hand gestures. Very annoying, though I give aviators a break.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 17, 2018 11:46 AM (xzqr4)
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344 Good turnout this morning.
Thanks to all who looked into The Mountain Throne last week. I'd welcome reviews, if you're ready. Esp. on Amazon.
Posted by: Apostate at June 17, 2018 11:39 AM (z2FAZ)
I bought it, it's on 'the pile' but I'll try to bubble it to the top this week.
Thanks to all who looked into The Mountain Throne last week. I'd welcome reviews, if you're ready. Esp. on Amazon.
Posted by: Apostate at June 17, 2018 11:39 AM (z2FAZ)
I bought it, it's on 'the pile' but I'll try to bubble it to the top this week.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:46 AM (xJa6I)
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Bander, I love you, but it was George V of England who was the twin of Nicholas II. There were lots of photos of them posing together:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/341781059195659250/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/341781059195659250/
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 11:47 AM (JxMDl)
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It's unusual and the fees are usually nominal, $5 or $10.
Some authors do charge for autographs as well, but usually only huge, successful pricks.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:35 AM (xJa6I)
Say who?
Some authors do charge for autographs as well, but usually only huge, successful pricks.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:35 AM (xJa6I)
Say who?
Posted by: Stephen King at June 17, 2018 11:47 AM (I3yXU)
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357 In Chicago, Stormy muses: 'Should I run for president?'
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Go for it, Storms!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 11:45 AM (+y/Ru)
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She won't mind the grind of campaigning.
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Go for it, Storms!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 11:45 AM (+y/Ru)
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She won't mind the grind of campaigning.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 11:48 AM (JxMDl)
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Yeah, I coded the original.
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at June 17, 2018 11:39 AM (gqWCa)
Whoa. Love your work. I still [oldNeXTStationTurbo retain];
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at June 17, 2018 11:39 AM (gqWCa)
Whoa. Love your work. I still [oldNeXTStationTurbo retain];
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 11:48 AM (fZuhk)
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355 Beevor's take on Ardennes is similar: Brits saved the day. He fumbles the entire Peiper action as well, which, to be fair, the other major authors do as well (McDonald, Merriam, Toland, Eisenhower).
Posted by: One of Those Guys at June 17, 2018 11:44 AM (wTD0g)
Another warning :-/
Though Pershing had good things to say about the British soldiers in WW1...their senior leadership had the stank of perfidious Albion about them, though. Kept trying to steal our soldiers.
Maybe I need to search elsewhere for a complete narrative account of WW 2.
Posted by: One of Those Guys at June 17, 2018 11:44 AM (wTD0g)
Another warning :-/
Though Pershing had good things to say about the British soldiers in WW1...their senior leadership had the stank of perfidious Albion about them, though. Kept trying to steal our soldiers.
Maybe I need to search elsewhere for a complete narrative account of WW 2.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:48 AM (xJa6I)
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Asshole supreme Rob Reiner is on Fox, and displaying his talent of not being able to speak without hand gestures. Very annoying, though I give aviators a break.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 17, 2018 11:46 AM (xzqr4)
Reiner said last week that DeNiro needs to STFU. Says his "F* Trump" schtick is actually helping Trump.
Hmmm...
I actually agree with the meathead on this.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 17, 2018 11:46 AM (xzqr4)
Reiner said last week that DeNiro needs to STFU. Says his "F* Trump" schtick is actually helping Trump.
Hmmm...
I actually agree with the meathead on this.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:50 AM (I3yXU)
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And 100 years ago the Battle of Belleau Wood was happening.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 11:51 AM (KB4SV)
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361 It's unusual and the fees are usually nominal, $5 or $10.
Some authors do charge for autographs as well, but usually only huge, successful pricks.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:35 AM (xJa6I)
Say who?
Posted by: Stephen King at June 17, 2018 11:47 AM (I3yXU)
You and GRRM need to get a room together.
Some authors do charge for autographs as well, but usually only huge, successful pricks.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:35 AM (xJa6I)
Say who?
Posted by: Stephen King at June 17, 2018 11:47 AM (I3yXU)
You and GRRM need to get a room together.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:51 AM (xJa6I)
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Carlo D'Este (don't let the eurotrash sounding name fool ya, he's an Amerkin) has a whole slew of books on WWII, and I can vouch for his "Decision in Normandy."
It might be somewhat biased toward the Americans, but he comes loaded with documentation, demonstrating among other things, that the official British history is full of self-serving tripe.
It might be somewhat biased toward the Americans, but he comes loaded with documentation, demonstrating among other things, that the official British history is full of self-serving tripe.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 11:51 AM (cY3LT)
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Hey I read "Bad Blood" this week. It's great! It's about the Theranos scam. Could not put it down. Lost a lot of sleep.
Posted by: gp at June 17, 2018 11:52 AM (mk9aG)
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Bander, I love you, but it was George V of England who was the twin of Nicholas II. There were lots of photos of them posing together:
Crap. Didn't read my own link well because that came up when I asked about Nick and Bill.
They were not the lookalikes, it was Georve Cinque, but:
"In the early hours of July 29, 1914, Czar Nicholas II of Russia and his first cousin, Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, begin a frantic exchange of telegrams regarding the newly erupted war in the Balkan region and the possibility of its escalation into a general European war."
Big family.
Crap. Didn't read my own link well because that came up when I asked about Nick and Bill.
They were not the lookalikes, it was Georve Cinque, but:
"In the early hours of July 29, 1914, Czar Nicholas II of Russia and his first cousin, Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, begin a frantic exchange of telegrams regarding the newly erupted war in the Balkan region and the possibility of its escalation into a general European war."
Big family.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 11:52 AM (fuK7c)
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Asshole supreme Rob Reiner is on Fox, and displaying his talent of not being able to speak without hand gestures. Very annoying, though I give aviators a break.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 17, 2018 11:46 AM (xzqr4)
And another thing: I wonder how many letters and e-mails Reiner gets every week that start out "Dear Meathead..."
Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 17, 2018 11:46 AM (xzqr4)
And another thing: I wonder how many letters and e-mails Reiner gets every week that start out "Dear Meathead..."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:53 AM (I3yXU)
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368 Carlo D'Este (don't let the eurotrash sounding name fool ya, he's an Amerkin) has a whole slew of books on WWII, and I can vouch for his "Decision in Normandy."
It might be somewhat biased toward the Americans, but he comes loaded with documentation, demonstrating among other things, that the official British history is full of self-serving tripe.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 11:51 AM (cY3LT)
I have his book on Patton. It's very good.
I didn't know he had other works, him I will look up!
It might be somewhat biased toward the Americans, but he comes loaded with documentation, demonstrating among other things, that the official British history is full of self-serving tripe.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 11:51 AM (cY3LT)
I have his book on Patton. It's very good.
I didn't know he had other works, him I will look up!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:53 AM (xJa6I)
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I'm starting my yearly re-read of Shelby Foote's Civil War Narrative and I'm looking around for similar books.
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Winston Groom, best known for Forrest Gump, has written a number of popular histories. I particularly like A Storm In Flanders, WWI in microcosm, and Shrouds of Glory, about the Nashville campaign.
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Winston Groom, best known for Forrest Gump, has written a number of popular histories. I particularly like A Storm In Flanders, WWI in microcosm, and Shrouds of Glory, about the Nashville campaign.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 11:53 AM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 11:54 AM (KB4SV)
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I think it was sports stars who started the practice of charging for autographs, right?
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 11:54 AM (sdi6R)
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Was anyone expecting a lighthearted account of the Black Plague and the Hundred Years' War?
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you: Geoffrey Chaucer.
"Bifel that, in that seasoun, on a daye
In Southwerk, at the Tabard, as I laye..."
(best two lines to know. Everybody else quits on the one before).
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you: Geoffrey Chaucer.
"Bifel that, in that seasoun, on a daye
In Southwerk, at the Tabard, as I laye..."
(best two lines to know. Everybody else quits on the one before).
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 17, 2018 11:54 AM (H5rtT)
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Czar Nicholas and Kaiser Wilhelm were look-alike cousins, Victoria's grandkids.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 11:36 AM (fuK7c)
As was King George who threw his cousin , Nicholas under the bus and would not allow him and his family to flee to England. Next stop, execution.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 11:36 AM (fuK7c)
As was King George who threw his cousin , Nicholas under the bus and would not allow him and his family to flee to England. Next stop, execution.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 11:54 AM (2DOZq)
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I have his book on Patton. It's very good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:53 AM (xJa6I)
*motions frantically*
The line! You have to say the line!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:53 AM (xJa6I)
*motions frantically*
The line! You have to say the line!
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 11:55 AM (fZuhk)
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Bander, I love you, but it was George V of England who was the twin of
Nicholas II. There were lots of photos of them posing together:
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I think there are still a few uncles of QEII alive who look eerily like GeoV and NicII.
Nicholas II. There were lots of photos of them posing together:
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I think there are still a few uncles of QEII alive who look eerily like GeoV and NicII.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 17, 2018 11:55 AM (MIKMs)
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I find the new proggie talking point that the President and Republicans not caring about illegal immigrant children particularly despicable considering that they didn't seem to care when the Democrats controlled the government.
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at June 17, 2018 11:55 AM (rdl6o)
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I think it was sports stars who started the practice of charging for autographs, right?
________________________Nope. Pardoners.
________________________Nope. Pardoners.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 17, 2018 11:55 AM (H5rtT)
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"In the early hours of July 29, 1914, Czar Nicholas II of Russia and his first cousin, Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, begin a frantic exchange of telegrams regarding the newly erupted war in the Balkan region and the possibility of its escalation into a general European war."
Big family.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 11:52 AM (fuK7c)
I watched the ITV series "Victoria" and I was surprised how intertwined the royal blood-lines of England and Germany are.
Big family.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 11:52 AM (fuK7c)
I watched the ITV series "Victoria" and I was surprised how intertwined the royal blood-lines of England and Germany are.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:56 AM (I3yXU)
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The royal families of Europe is much like a Kudzu vine.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 11:57 AM (KB4SV)
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Here is an excellent family tree of WWI monarchy culminating in all three being cousins.
https://bit.ly/2tfQgGJ
It's a vast hive of incest and villainy.
https://bit.ly/2tfQgGJ
It's a vast hive of incest and villainy.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 11:58 AM (fuK7c)
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One of Those Guys, I read the Beevor Ardennes book but all I can recall is that it was unsatisfying, prompting me to go read Snow and Steel by Caddick-Adams and Bitter Woods by Eisenhower.
If it's brief enough for a comments section, what did those authors you name mess up about the Peiper operation?
If it's brief enough for a comments section, what did those authors you name mess up about the Peiper operation?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 11:58 AM (QDnY+)
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I still think American Caesar by Manchester is one of the best biographies written. I say that partially because Manchester really didn't like MacArthur but the biography doesn't really indicate as such so I assume that it's pretty accurate in that it doesn't white wash anything either.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 11:59 AM (2DOZq)
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I'm starting my yearly re-read of Shelby Foote's Civil War Narrative and I'm looking around for similar books.
Any opinions on Anthony Beevor's 'The Second World War'?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:33 AM (xJa6I)
Oh, and Bruce Catton's Civil War books are paper gold.
Very narrative, much like Foote's work, but certainly way more condensed. I mean, he covers the whole war, just not in as thorough a way as Foote.
Any opinions on Anthony Beevor's 'The Second World War'?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 11:33 AM (xJa6I)
Oh, and Bruce Catton's Civil War books are paper gold.
Very narrative, much like Foote's work, but certainly way more condensed. I mean, he covers the whole war, just not in as thorough a way as Foote.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 12:00 PM (cY3LT)
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They didn't care about assassinations, drone strikes, military casualties, or the pathetic failures and missteps that led to repeat terrorist attacks in the US, either. All progs care about is power. All positions are temporary. All principles are lies. Power and the means to obtain and retain it are all that matter.
Posted by: Apostate at June 17, 2018 12:01 PM (z2FAZ)
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The problem with an hereditary monarch is that buffoons can rise to be heads of state based on an accident of birth. In a democracy, we choose our own buffoons.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 12:01 PM (+y/Ru)
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D'Este's books on the Med and Italian campaigns are high on my enormous "to read" WWII book list.
Just finished David Glantz's To the Gates of Stalingrad, which covers russki-kraut action April-August 1942. Slightly more readable than Stumbling Colosssus, but not much. These books are more reference books than narratives. Suppose I'll give Glantz a few more chances on his other big eastern front books, but it's disappointing.
He clearly is the master of the topic, and in some respects uniquely so for a westerner, given his living in the Soviet archives for some time. But these books need a team of editors and/or co-authors to tell the story. Also - worst maps in the history of maps. Hard to believe *any* editor let those get used.
Just finished David Glantz's To the Gates of Stalingrad, which covers russki-kraut action April-August 1942. Slightly more readable than Stumbling Colosssus, but not much. These books are more reference books than narratives. Suppose I'll give Glantz a few more chances on his other big eastern front books, but it's disappointing.
He clearly is the master of the topic, and in some respects uniquely so for a westerner, given his living in the Soviet archives for some time. But these books need a team of editors and/or co-authors to tell the story. Also - worst maps in the history of maps. Hard to believe *any* editor let those get used.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 12:03 PM (QDnY+)
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I would highly recommend Antony Beevor's "Stalingrad."
I guess since it didn't involve the British in any way, he doesn't appear to have any specific bias.
I guess since it didn't involve the British in any way, he doesn't appear to have any specific bias.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 12:04 PM (cY3LT)
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I'm about a third of the way through Stephen Kotkin's first volume of a projected three-volume (the first two are already out) biography of Stalin and while it is well-written and informative, it's still a bit of a slog because there's so much to digest.
What I've had reinforced is the fact that the Bolsheviks were a bunch of fuck-ups--more lucky than good--and that Lenin was a major asshole, and most likely a German agent. He was such a goofball, I'm surprised he survived as long as he did. Oh, and Trotsky was the true prophet of what became the Soviet Union and all the terror it unleashed. I'm at the point of the story where Stalin is little more than a bit player in the grand scheme of things.
That said, Russia was a barbaric nation even before the Commies took over. A huge, unwieldy mass of land, cruel and backwards with only a thin veneer of opulence and civilization, mostly centered around St. Petersburg. The Czar was clueless about how 99% of his subjects lived and totally oblivious to the fate that awaited both his regime, and later, he and his family.
However evil the Soviet Union was, it was pretty much a continuation of the Russian Empire by another name....
Has anyone else been reading this?
What I've had reinforced is the fact that the Bolsheviks were a bunch of fuck-ups--more lucky than good--and that Lenin was a major asshole, and most likely a German agent. He was such a goofball, I'm surprised he survived as long as he did. Oh, and Trotsky was the true prophet of what became the Soviet Union and all the terror it unleashed. I'm at the point of the story where Stalin is little more than a bit player in the grand scheme of things.
That said, Russia was a barbaric nation even before the Commies took over. A huge, unwieldy mass of land, cruel and backwards with only a thin veneer of opulence and civilization, mostly centered around St. Petersburg. The Czar was clueless about how 99% of his subjects lived and totally oblivious to the fate that awaited both his regime, and later, he and his family.
However evil the Soviet Union was, it was pretty much a continuation of the Russian Empire by another name....
Has anyone else been reading this?
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2018 12:05 PM (y8Foj)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 12:06 PM (+y/Ru)
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The problem with an hereditary monarch is that buffoons can rise to be heads of state based on an accident of birth. In a democracy, we choose our own buffoons.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 12:01 PM (+y/Ru)
All that inbreeding too, we know better than to let the sons and daughters and wives of the rich and powerful to rule over us....
Oh, wait...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 12:01 PM (+y/Ru)
All that inbreeding too, we know better than to let the sons and daughters and wives of the rich and powerful to rule over us....
Oh, wait...
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 12:07 PM (cY3LT)
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The underwear thing I've always been willing to give the Clintons a pass on. From what I understand, they were actually long-johns, which I've always understood to be worn over regular underwear and are quite useful in cold weather.
Pretty much anything else I'll cheerfully pile on about the Clintons, but that one always struck me as a tad unfair. And charging for a book signing? That's just downright scummy.
Posted by: Jenos Idanian at June 17, 2018 10:54 AM (haqIS)
I will call bullshit on that. Living in Canada, I own and wear longjohns when it's cold out, and I plan to be outside a lot. They are underwear, you don't wear jockeys under them.
And the Clintoons are warm-climate animals, I doubt they ever bought longjohns.
Pretty much anything else I'll cheerfully pile on about the Clintons, but that one always struck me as a tad unfair. And charging for a book signing? That's just downright scummy.
Posted by: Jenos Idanian at June 17, 2018 10:54 AM (haqIS)
I will call bullshit on that. Living in Canada, I own and wear longjohns when it's cold out, and I plan to be outside a lot. They are underwear, you don't wear jockeys under them.
And the Clintoons are warm-climate animals, I doubt they ever bought longjohns.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2018 12:07 PM (WFV7d)
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I watched the ITV series "Victoria" and I was surprised how intertwined the royal blood-lines of England and Germany are.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:56 AM (I3yXU)
They were all German.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:56 AM (I3yXU)
They were all German.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2018 12:08 PM (y8Foj)
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(259) De re metallica by Agricola. A little late, but of the period. Great insight into industry in the awakening.
Posted by: Burger Chef at June 17, 2018 12:09 PM (RuIsu)
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>>>and whose lips move as they read
I started sounding out the words, at that point. It's kinda fun!
I started sounding out the words, at that point. It's kinda fun!
Posted by: m at June 17, 2018 12:09 PM (/TzhX)
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And the Clintoons are warm-climate animals, I doubt they ever bought longjohns.
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I don't want to think about Clintons and long Johnsons.
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I don't want to think about Clintons and long Johnsons.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 12:09 PM (+y/Ru)
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The problem with an hereditary monarch is that buffoons can rise to be heads of state based on an accident of birth. In a democracy, we choose our own buffoons.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 12:01 PM (+y/Ru)
This is what brought down the Roman Empire.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 17, 2018 12:01 PM (+y/Ru)
This is what brought down the Roman Empire.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2018 12:09 PM (y8Foj)
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Has anyone else been reading this?
No, I used to recommend "Koba the Dread" by Martin Amis as an accessible account of how profoundly evil Stalin was, with a tip of the hat to Lenin not getting enough credit for being evil.
I re-read it recently and it just seemed a jumble of Amis' thoughts and the books that happen to be on his shelves.
No, I used to recommend "Koba the Dread" by Martin Amis as an accessible account of how profoundly evil Stalin was, with a tip of the hat to Lenin not getting enough credit for being evil.
I re-read it recently and it just seemed a jumble of Amis' thoughts and the books that happen to be on his shelves.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 12:09 PM (fuK7c)
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This reminds me that I need to rewatch "Fall of Eagles".
Lenin was played by ((drum roll)) Patrick Stewart.
Lenin was played by ((drum roll)) Patrick Stewart.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 12:10 PM (JxMDl)
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Five committees. There are five ongoing investigatory committees right now.
No wonder I'm confused. I didn't know there were five separated ongoing investigations.
"The president of the United States tomorrow should direct Rosenstein, order him within 48 hours, he will comply with every subpoena of documents and witnesses to Capitol Hill, to all five committees," [/l] _ Bannon on ABC
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7g2yps4
No wonder I'm confused. I didn't know there were five separated ongoing investigations.
"The president of the United States tomorrow should direct Rosenstein, order him within 48 hours, he will comply with every subpoena of documents and witnesses to Capitol Hill, to all five committees," [/l] _ Bannon on ABC
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7g2yps4
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2018 12:10 PM (wyeK6)
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Inbreeding? What's the problem?
Posted by: Club-footed Muslim with 3 fingers at June 17, 2018 12:11 PM (89T5c)
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Just finished what I call a beach book. In The Electric Mist With The Confederate Dead by James Lee Burke. Pretty cool book. Apparently a whole series with the protagonist Dave Robicheaux.
may check out one or two more.
Does this make me a trashy person?
may check out one or two more.
Does this make me a trashy person?
Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 17, 2018 12:11 PM (Y9uH4)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 12:11 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 12:11 PM (JxMDl)
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JoeF., haven't read any of the Kotkin books, but they're on my list. Did read Rayfield's Stalin's Hangmen, it was a nice overview of things with an emphasis on the secret police aspect of course.
Only thing I've read that said much about Menzhinsky, a key chekist leader who's rarely mentioned in the same list with Yagoda, Beria, et al.
Only thing I've read that said much about Menzhinsky, a key chekist leader who's rarely mentioned in the same list with Yagoda, Beria, et al.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 12:12 PM (QDnY+)
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Singing, No Caps in the Tags, as he walks slowly to the barrel.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2018 12:12 PM (wyeK6)
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However evil the Soviet Union was, it was pretty much a continuation of the Russian Empire by another name....
Has anyone else been reading this?
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2018 12:05 PM (y8Foj)
I don't think that's true.
The Russian empire was not competent, like the commies, at being able to turn the average citizen into a tool of the state. The commies had MASSIVE operations to weed out any dissent, and kill off the intellectuals who did too much thinking for themselves.
The thing to remember is, government is a thing that has internal workings, and then it either spreads itself over everything else, or it doesn't. The Soviets essentially invented what is the modern state, where individual freedom is subverted, because the states is all, over all else.
The old Russian empire, you could mostly live your life without the state having TOO much control over your life.
Once the commies came in, that was no longer possible.
Has anyone else been reading this?
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2018 12:05 PM (y8Foj)
I don't think that's true.
The Russian empire was not competent, like the commies, at being able to turn the average citizen into a tool of the state. The commies had MASSIVE operations to weed out any dissent, and kill off the intellectuals who did too much thinking for themselves.
The thing to remember is, government is a thing that has internal workings, and then it either spreads itself over everything else, or it doesn't. The Soviets essentially invented what is the modern state, where individual freedom is subverted, because the states is all, over all else.
The old Russian empire, you could mostly live your life without the state having TOO much control over your life.
Once the commies came in, that was no longer possible.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 12:12 PM (cY3LT)
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Later gators. Enjoy the weather! It's going to be in the 90's tomorrow.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 12:11 PM (JxMDl)
It's already 88° here. Same tomorrow. TANJ.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 12:11 PM (JxMDl)
It's already 88° here. Same tomorrow. TANJ.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 12:14 PM (fZuhk)
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JoeF., haven't read any of the Kotkin books, but they're on my list. Did read Rayfield's Stalin's Hangmen, it was a nice overview of things with an emphasis on the secret police aspect of course.
Only thing I've read that said much about Menzhinsky, a key chekist leader who's rarely mentioned in the same list with Yagoda, Beria, et al.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 12:12 PM (QDnY+)
I like this book and I'm going to tackle the rest in due course, but you should know it also works as a history of Russia--as i pointed out--Stalin is not much more than a bit player in his own biography--during much of 1916-17....
Only thing I've read that said much about Menzhinsky, a key chekist leader who's rarely mentioned in the same list with Yagoda, Beria, et al.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 12:12 PM (QDnY+)
I like this book and I'm going to tackle the rest in due course, but you should know it also works as a history of Russia--as i pointed out--Stalin is not much more than a bit player in his own biography--during much of 1916-17....
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2018 12:15 PM (y8Foj)
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Rhomboid: A lot of misrepresentation about Peiper and the American Engineers. Peiper's thrust was the single most powerful effort, intended to cross the Meuse within 48 hours (or, well before the 101st and 82nd even de-trucked. Bastogne was a sideshow in the Fifth Pz Armee zone, whose mission was to SUPPORT the Sixth Pz Armee - sorry Airbone-o-philes). They were never going to outfight the vastly heavier American forces; speed and shock were EVERYTHING. But the Engineers messed it all up on 18 December - not because of scattered independent units acting on their own initiative, as is often characterized. The Engineers - specifically the 1111th units, at Stavelot, Trois Ponts, and Habiemont - were under tight, centralized control, and had very specific guidance and orders on what to do. They had been in the region for six weeks and were calmly and ably led by stalwart leaders who had placed themselves directly in Peiper's path.... and blew up the bridges. Once Peiper has to turn back to find other routes... surprise is lost, opposing forces gather, and the Breakthrough becomes a Bulge.
Posted by: One of Those Guys at June 17, 2018 12:15 PM (wTD0g)
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The old Russian empire, you could mostly live your life without the state having TOO much control over your life.
Not the state so much, but the feudal system yes.
I just read Turgenev's "Sportsman's Sketches". He writes about wandering hither and yon fishing and hunting and falling out of boats.
I read the distinctions between a serf, a peasant, a peasant (there was a qualifier, maybe peasant proprietor), landowners, and the various strata of nobility.
I don't know, maybe he was trying to be political, because as he walks about and meets people almost none have any control of their lives, and aristos can sieze land and move people at will.
Not the state so much, but the feudal system yes.
I just read Turgenev's "Sportsman's Sketches". He writes about wandering hither and yon fishing and hunting and falling out of boats.
I read the distinctions between a serf, a peasant, a peasant (there was a qualifier, maybe peasant proprietor), landowners, and the various strata of nobility.
I don't know, maybe he was trying to be political, because as he walks about and meets people almost none have any control of their lives, and aristos can sieze land and move people at will.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 12:17 PM (fuK7c)
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(259) De re metallica by Agricola. A little late, but of the period. Great insight into industry in the awakening. Posted by: Burger Chef at June 17, 2018 12:09 PM (RuIsu)
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Wasn't that translated by First Lady Lou Hoover?
(259) De re metallica by Agricola. A little late, but of the period. Great insight into industry in the awakening. Posted by: Burger Chef at June 17, 2018 12:09 PM (RuIsu)
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Wasn't that translated by First Lady Lou Hoover?
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 17, 2018 12:20 PM (MIKMs)
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When you look at Trump's timeline on Twitter, Twitter helpfully recommends you follow "related" people like "Hillary Clinton" and "Barack Obama".
These fuckin' guys.
I look forward to basking in ever more leftist misery this next 6 years plus.
These fuckin' guys.
I look forward to basking in ever more leftist misery this next 6 years plus.
Posted by: Mega at June 17, 2018 12:20 PM (rv0Fo)
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[From Variety:] "Theaters to Add Strobe Light Warning to 'Incredibles 2' After Viral Twitter Thread"
https://tinyurl.com/ybq37uhl
Quick, somebody get Kurt Eichenwald two free tickets, stat! Thanks in advance ...
https://tinyurl.com/ybq37uhl
Quick, somebody get Kurt Eichenwald two free tickets, stat! Thanks in advance ...
Posted by: ShainS at June 17, 2018 12:24 PM (BiLU+)
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AIBOHPHOBIA
That's a very cool word.
That's a very cool word.
Posted by: m at June 17, 2018 12:24 PM (/TzhX)
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One of Those Guys, thanks. Limited by my recall, but I think the Caddick-Adams and Eisenhower books left me with a pretty clear impression of the key roles played by the engineers and the bridges, esp. at Trois Ponts, and also Stavelot (though the krauts took that one, initially).
But overall my impression was that, Peiper dash to/over the Meuse or not, as the German generals believed, it was a hopeless operation. Germany simply didn't have the forces to come close to pulling it off (actually taking Antwerp).
And not to descend too much into the weeds, but wasn't the whole shock/surprise/momentum thing partially blown from the starting gun - when Peiper was delayed by road blockages and the American resistance in the Losheim Gap, at Lanzerath, etc?
But overall my impression was that, Peiper dash to/over the Meuse or not, as the German generals believed, it was a hopeless operation. Germany simply didn't have the forces to come close to pulling it off (actually taking Antwerp).
And not to descend too much into the weeds, but wasn't the whole shock/surprise/momentum thing partially blown from the starting gun - when Peiper was delayed by road blockages and the American resistance in the Losheim Gap, at Lanzerath, etc?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 12:25 PM (QDnY+)
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I don't think that's true.
The Russian empire was not competent, like the commies, at being able to turn the average citizen into a tool of the state. The commies had MASSIVE operations to weed out any dissent, and kill off the intellectuals who did too much thinking for themselves.
The thing to remember is, government is a thing that has internal workings, and then it either spreads itself over everything else, or it doesn't. The Soviets essentially invented what is the modern state, where individual freedom is subverted, because the states is all, over all else.
The old Russian empire, you could mostly live your life without the state having TOO much control over your life.
Once the commies came in, that was no longer possible.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 12:12 PM (cY3LT)
I didn't mean to sound as though I was giving the USSR a pass or anything. It WAS the Evil Empire.
But, a lot of the apparatus of terror that defined the Soviet Union was already in place under the Tsars--secret police, informants, the crushing of political dissent, executions, Siberian exile. There were also famines and bread shortages due to incompetence and poor planning--just like in the USSR. And the "black market"--so familiar to us from reports in the 70's and '80's --was already in operation.
But I know what you mean--there was freedom of religion-with the occasional Jewish pogrom- and there was probably more freedom of movement--ambitious peasants COULD become rich. But remember, the serfs were only "emancipated" in the 1860's.
The Russian empire was not competent, like the commies, at being able to turn the average citizen into a tool of the state. The commies had MASSIVE operations to weed out any dissent, and kill off the intellectuals who did too much thinking for themselves.
The thing to remember is, government is a thing that has internal workings, and then it either spreads itself over everything else, or it doesn't. The Soviets essentially invented what is the modern state, where individual freedom is subverted, because the states is all, over all else.
The old Russian empire, you could mostly live your life without the state having TOO much control over your life.
Once the commies came in, that was no longer possible.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2018 12:12 PM (cY3LT)
I didn't mean to sound as though I was giving the USSR a pass or anything. It WAS the Evil Empire.
But, a lot of the apparatus of terror that defined the Soviet Union was already in place under the Tsars--secret police, informants, the crushing of political dissent, executions, Siberian exile. There were also famines and bread shortages due to incompetence and poor planning--just like in the USSR. And the "black market"--so familiar to us from reports in the 70's and '80's --was already in operation.
But I know what you mean--there was freedom of religion-with the occasional Jewish pogrom- and there was probably more freedom of movement--ambitious peasants COULD become rich. But remember, the serfs were only "emancipated" in the 1860's.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2018 12:25 PM (y8Foj)
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229 Shelby Foot said It's in every southern boys heart to be standing before Cemetery ridge on July 3rd 1863 and dream what if?
I say it's in every Northern boy to be standing on Cemetery ridge and say Come try again. "
I say it's in every AoS Moron's heart to be standing on stage with the Young Turks at midnight of Election Day, 2016, pointing and saying "HA ha!"
I say it's in every Northern boy to be standing on Cemetery ridge and say Come try again. "
I say it's in every AoS Moron's heart to be standing on stage with the Young Turks at midnight of Election Day, 2016, pointing and saying "HA ha!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2018 12:26 PM (V2Yro)
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I'm about two-thirds of the way through Children of Dune, after which I'll start God Emperor. Looking forward to it from all the positive comments from the last several book threads!
Posted by: Jim S. at June 17, 2018 12:27 PM (ynUnH)
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One clear distinction between feudal (pre-Revolutionary) Russia and that after 1917 was the creation of powerful intrusive centralized state (as opposed to a mostly shambling one) that *developed and perfected and ruthlessly applied methods of mass murder and coercion to the entire population*.
As Bander notes, feudal society was far from free. It was repugnant by modern standard of individual liberty.
But modern totalitarianism as embodied in the Soviet state was pretty much pure evil, weaponized.
As Bander notes, feudal society was far from free. It was repugnant by modern standard of individual liberty.
But modern totalitarianism as embodied in the Soviet state was pretty much pure evil, weaponized.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 12:29 PM (QDnY+)
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BTW, thanks everyone for making this a smart WWI blog.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 12:31 PM (fuK7c)
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396 I watched the ITV series "Victoria" and I was surprised how intertwined the royal blood-lines of England and Germany are.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:56 AM (I3yXU)
They were all German."
It took me a while to realize (probably because English Historians have always tried to downplay this) that the Scottish Jacobins, who were trying to put Bonnie Prince Charlie back on the throne, were actually completely right in wanting an actual historical English Monarch on the English throne.
Parliament wanted a weak German family on the throne because that meant that Parliament got to do anything it wanted with no real interference by the figurehead monarch. I don't think George 1 ever even learned to speak English. George II was a non-entity, George III was insane, and George IV was a frustrated hairdresser, complete idiot, and the most notorious drunk of his age. That's the line Parliament picked in place of an actual English king.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 17, 2018 11:56 AM (I3yXU)
They were all German."
It took me a while to realize (probably because English Historians have always tried to downplay this) that the Scottish Jacobins, who were trying to put Bonnie Prince Charlie back on the throne, were actually completely right in wanting an actual historical English Monarch on the English throne.
Parliament wanted a weak German family on the throne because that meant that Parliament got to do anything it wanted with no real interference by the figurehead monarch. I don't think George 1 ever even learned to speak English. George II was a non-entity, George III was insane, and George IV was a frustrated hairdresser, complete idiot, and the most notorious drunk of his age. That's the line Parliament picked in place of an actual English king.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2018 12:33 PM (V2Yro)
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"Shelby Foot said It's in every southern boys heart to be standing before Cemetery ridge on July 3rd 1863 and dream what if? "
A tremendous blunder on Gen. Lee's part. The biggest of his whole military career.
A frontal assault across a mile of exposure on a reinforced and well fortified enemy position. Pure idiocy.
Gen. Lee never read Sun Tzu, apparently.
The amazing thing is that it almost worked.
A tremendous blunder on Gen. Lee's part. The biggest of his whole military career.
A frontal assault across a mile of exposure on a reinforced and well fortified enemy position. Pure idiocy.
Gen. Lee never read Sun Tzu, apparently.
The amazing thing is that it almost worked.
Posted by: navybrat now with more emulsions at June 17, 2018 12:33 PM (w7KSn)
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By the way, here is a list of science-fiction authors who allegedly had philosophical themes in their work. The list is basically a survey of several philosophers who use SF in their teaching. I say "allegedly" because it seems to me that the majority of them are more sociological than anything else -- some just seem to be the philosophers' favorite books, regardless whether they have philosophy in them or not. Philip K. Dick is not mentioned enough, and many of the authors and books I would list are not even on the list.
http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~eschwitz/SchwitzPapers/SF-MasterList-160815-byauthor.pdf
http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~eschwitz/SchwitzPapers/SF-MasterList-160815-byauthor.pdf
Posted by: Jim S. at June 17, 2018 12:34 PM (ynUnH)
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JoeF. I'm sure even in Kotkin's book one can see one huge difference in the *degree* of brutality and repression between pre- and post-revolutionary Russia.
Exile. Stalin himself and every Bolshevik figure of consequence in later years were exiled, many repeatedly. Can't recall any major ones who were killed, or not allowed to return to society. Many violated terms of their exile, with impunity.
There isn't a single instance known of anything remotely similar happening under the Soviets. In fact they did very little of the exile-as-isolation thing - it was labor (often, death) camps at the end of that 3-day rail trip, not some bleak village wondering why the hell all the over-edumucated people from northwest Russia (living decently, often writing and with rights to correspond) were cluttering their obscure community.
Exile. Stalin himself and every Bolshevik figure of consequence in later years were exiled, many repeatedly. Can't recall any major ones who were killed, or not allowed to return to society. Many violated terms of their exile, with impunity.
There isn't a single instance known of anything remotely similar happening under the Soviets. In fact they did very little of the exile-as-isolation thing - it was labor (often, death) camps at the end of that 3-day rail trip, not some bleak village wondering why the hell all the over-edumucated people from northwest Russia (living decently, often writing and with rights to correspond) were cluttering their obscure community.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 12:35 PM (QDnY+)
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I don't think George 1 ever even learned to speak English. George II was a non-entity, George III was insane, and George IV was a frustrated hairdresser, complete idiot, and the most notorious drunk of his age. That's the line Parliament picked in place of an actual English king.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2018 12:33 PM (V2Yro)
Reminds me of a few other George's on this side of the pond.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2018 12:33 PM (V2Yro)
Reminds me of a few other George's on this side of the pond.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2018 12:35 PM (EoRCO)
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Speaking of WW 1, anyone watching the Germany-Mexico match? It's the Zimmerman telegram game--loser gets New Mexico.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 17, 2018 12:35 PM (XS/P1)
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341 Ha! That's a NeXT manual up on the case, probably up there 20 or more years. It was an operating system that replaced the old Mac operating system, years ahead of it's time.
Yeah, I coded the original.
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That was the first thing I noticed, too. I'm amazed that such an out-of-left-field memory came up like that.
I have a circa-1990 NeXT product catalog filed away somewhere. Not sure why I kept it back then, but now it's fun to look through and see how advanced the things were for their time.
Yeah, I coded the original.
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That was the first thing I noticed, too. I'm amazed that such an out-of-left-field memory came up like that.
I have a circa-1990 NeXT product catalog filed away somewhere. Not sure why I kept it back then, but now it's fun to look through and see how advanced the things were for their time.
Posted by: Alsos at June 17, 2018 12:37 PM (GPEHY)
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BTW, thanks everyone for making this a smart WWI blog.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 12:31 PM (fuK7c)
This is probably my favorite weekly thread. The Horde Mind is a vast and wondrous place, with dark corners and face-sized spiders, liquor and beer bottles strewn about, and shadowy figures whispering secrets, some of them wearing Crocs.
I never fail to learn something new.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 12:31 PM (fuK7c)
This is probably my favorite weekly thread. The Horde Mind is a vast and wondrous place, with dark corners and face-sized spiders, liquor and beer bottles strewn about, and shadowy figures whispering secrets, some of them wearing Crocs.
I never fail to learn something new.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at June 17, 2018 12:38 PM (3j5Dn)
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Rhomb - Strategically, yes i don't think any of the German Top Brass thought it would work. Hitler was maybe hoping for a panicky confused Allied reaction like 1940.
And yes, Peiper was delayed initially, as much by lack of aggression by the forces charged with breaking through, as by American defenders. Once Peiper shoved aside his own colleagues, he had little serious trouble or delays for the first 12 hours.
My objection is the characterization of the engineers as scrambling and improvising in a semi-panicky state, or that they were operating without guidance. They were definitely hurrying, but there was no panic.
And yes, Peiper was delayed initially, as much by lack of aggression by the forces charged with breaking through, as by American defenders. Once Peiper shoved aside his own colleagues, he had little serious trouble or delays for the first 12 hours.
My objection is the characterization of the engineers as scrambling and improvising in a semi-panicky state, or that they were operating without guidance. They were definitely hurrying, but there was no panic.
Posted by: One of Those Guys at June 17, 2018 12:38 PM (wTD0g)
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...irrational fear of palindromes is aibohohibia. Of course, it was deliberately constructed to itself be a palindrome...
*squints closely*
*holds screen at arm's length*
aibihohobia is not a palindrome for aibohohibia.
Is it? (*digs out seldom-used eyeglasses*)(*and magnifying glass*)
Perhaps I just suffer from aybyhobobophya?
*squints closely*
*holds screen at arm's length*
aibihohobia is not a palindrome for aibohohibia.
Is it? (*digs out seldom-used eyeglasses*)(*and magnifying glass*)
Perhaps I just suffer from aybyhobobophya?
Posted by: mindful webworker - rekrowbew lufdnim at June 17, 2018 12:39 PM (jMD9L)
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Speaking of WW 1, anyone watching the Germany-Mexico match?
I'm chatting with a German right now. He says Germany is fielding 10 Germans and a Turk. I inquired closer and he says the guy talks about "MY president Erdogan".
Juergen is so pissed that he says going to drink tequilas to celebrate Mexico's win.
I'm chatting with a German right now. He says Germany is fielding 10 Germans and a Turk. I inquired closer and he says the guy talks about "MY president Erdogan".
Juergen is so pissed that he says going to drink tequilas to celebrate Mexico's win.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 12:39 PM (fuK7c)
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If Germany loses, Merkel will be gone within a week.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 17, 2018 12:40 PM (XS/P1)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 17, 2018 12:41 PM (5tSKk)
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Now I know who to turn to if I need some advice on that pesky Y2K bug!
and/or Windows 95!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 17, 2018 12:41 PM (5tSKk)
Whatever you do, do not forget to put the cover sheet on your TPS report.
and/or Windows 95!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 17, 2018 12:41 PM (5tSKk)
Whatever you do, do not forget to put the cover sheet on your TPS report.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at June 17, 2018 12:42 PM (3j5Dn)
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Jay Winik's The Great Upheaval persuasively argues that Catherine the Great's plans to liberalize Russia were put on hold because she and Potemkin were scared shitless by the feral nature of the French Revolution. That deferral carried forward until it boiled over with the Bolshevik Revolution.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 17, 2018 12:42 PM (y7DUB)
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One of Those Guys, fair enough. Thanks for that. I recall Eisenhower's account at least of Trois Ponts - the engineers there were portrayed as being quite prepared and knowing what to do, and I think blowing the bridges right in the face of the advancing German column. Unless I'm misremembering it, his account conforms with yours.
Even as a Hopeless Operation, Peiper's dash is fascinating, with the what-ifs, the things you note like the key bridges blown just in time, the narrowly missed Allied fuel dump that would have allowed his forces to continue to do something, at least, for a little longer.
Even as a Hopeless Operation, Peiper's dash is fascinating, with the what-ifs, the things you note like the key bridges blown just in time, the narrowly missed Allied fuel dump that would have allowed his forces to continue to do something, at least, for a little longer.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 12:43 PM (QDnY+)
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My main interest in last few years has been Napoleonic era Russia, it is the last of the old style empire before the French revolution thought took over. Many Russian soldiers never went back after the invasion of France, both Officers and enlisted.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 12:43 PM (pHfeF)
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Far, far too many years ago I stood at the edge of that open field and looked across at 'The Fishook' and wondered what it must have like to be waiting for the order to "Advance".
Two years later I was charging across an open rice paddy with a platoon of Marines towards a tree line manned by people armed with automatic weapons. Afterwards I reflected on the similarity.
Two years later I was charging across an open rice paddy with a platoon of Marines towards a tree line manned by people armed with automatic weapons. Afterwards I reflected on the similarity.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 12:45 PM (KsOxJ)
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436 Oh Germany has lost, it will be Germanistan in a blink of a eye.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 12:45 PM (pHfeF)
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One can hope Merkel's end is nigh, as some are speculating aloud this weekend. Think she's only a symptom of a much deeper problem with Germany, but still.
"German Hillary"
Funny, but sort of ridiculous. For all Merkel's spectacular flaws - and her last few years will probably go down as some of the worst leadership in modern history - she's really nothing like Hillz. Who is/was a dumb, sociopathic criminal, her entire adult life.
"German Hillary"
Funny, but sort of ridiculous. For all Merkel's spectacular flaws - and her last few years will probably go down as some of the worst leadership in modern history - she's really nothing like Hillz. Who is/was a dumb, sociopathic criminal, her entire adult life.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 12:46 PM (QDnY+)
445
337- if you're still here, we have a class A, the bus type, and love it. We tow our car behind us. Our family call us nomads because we sold the house and just roam around.
Posted by: Abby at June 17, 2018 12:47 PM (CXHLK)
446
Lee should have left the Union Army right where it was at the Fishook, abandoning it and advancing on to Washington DC, which was sparsely defended.
Would have changed the outcome of the entire war.
Would have changed the outcome of the entire war.
Posted by: navybrat now with more emulsions at June 17, 2018 12:48 PM (w7KSn)
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What is so dramatic about any of this that Russia
would feel the necessity for mobilization, especially since Serbia was
basically an economic vassal of the AH government? Serbia was one of the
shitholes of Europe. For Christ's sake, someone from Serbia had just
assassinated the future Emperor. England threw Czechoslovakia to Germany
to avoid war 25 years later and Czechoslovakia was much more of an
asset than Serbia. And then, why would the British and French feel the
need to involve their countries in what became the most destructive war
to date? Why, because the governments of Europe wanted war. And more
importantly, because the Central Banks wanted war. And war is just good
business!
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 17, 2018 11:25 AM (9BLnV)
It did help the Russians that the head of the Austrian counter-intellegence service, Col Alfred Redl. had sold them the complete Austrian Army mobilizations plans, so the Russians could be fairly certain of what moves to take.
There were damned few "good guys" in that war. Maybe the Dutch or the Belgians. Possibly Andorra.
would feel the necessity for mobilization, especially since Serbia was
basically an economic vassal of the AH government? Serbia was one of the
shitholes of Europe. For Christ's sake, someone from Serbia had just
assassinated the future Emperor. England threw Czechoslovakia to Germany
to avoid war 25 years later and Czechoslovakia was much more of an
asset than Serbia. And then, why would the British and French feel the
need to involve their countries in what became the most destructive war
to date? Why, because the governments of Europe wanted war. And more
importantly, because the Central Banks wanted war. And war is just good
business!
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 17, 2018 11:25 AM (9BLnV)
It did help the Russians that the head of the Austrian counter-intellegence service, Col Alfred Redl. had sold them the complete Austrian Army mobilizations plans, so the Russians could be fairly certain of what moves to take.
There were damned few "good guys" in that war. Maybe the Dutch or the Belgians. Possibly Andorra.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 17, 2018 12:49 PM (2K6fY)
448
If I remember right George I didn't speak English or not much, George III wasn't insane all the time, I think there was 2 distinct periods with a few years between.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 12:49 PM (pHfeF)
449
The Russian Revolution up to the time the USSR was created is a convoluted mess wrapped in backstabbing with a big side of evilness . It really is difficult to unravel all of the events into a simple summary since there are so many moving parts.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 12:49 PM (2DOZq)
450
Jay Winik: Alexander III and his advisors to their credit made an intellectual argument for Tsarism. Konstantin Pobyedonetseff, Reflections of a Russian Statesman.
If you want to argue that absolute Byzantine-style despotism is bad (which it is) then at least we have that to argue against.
If you want to argue that absolute Byzantine-style despotism is bad (which it is) then at least we have that to argue against.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 17, 2018 12:50 PM (6FqZa)
451
Rhomb, agree completely. On December 17, as the front crumbled and First Army units in the region were bugging out, the 1111th CO, Colonel Anderson, Headquartered in Trois Ponts, was asked if they - a rear echelon unit engaged in sawmill activity at the time - were going to retreat too. He responded, "We came all this way to fight the Germans, not to run from them." He could read a map and knew they (Peiper) were barreling right for TP.
Posted by: One of Those Guys at June 17, 2018 12:51 PM (YFnq5)
452
>>>I watched the ITV series "Victoria" and I was surprised how intertwined the royal blood-lines of England and Germany are.
G. F. Handel left the court of George I in Hanover to go to England, which displeased G1. Several years later, he became king of England, and Handel wrote Water Music to make it up to him. Odd how petty politics can result in great music.
G. F. Handel left the court of George I in Hanover to go to England, which displeased G1. Several years later, he became king of England, and Handel wrote Water Music to make it up to him. Odd how petty politics can result in great music.
Posted by: Bear phone at June 17, 2018 12:52 PM (uyrlv)
453
Andorra had the bad luck to have been forgotten about during Versailles. So it was legally still fighting WW1 when the Spanish Civil War broke out south of it, and then WW2 north of it.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 17, 2018 12:52 PM (6FqZa)
454
If I remember right George I didn't speak English or not much, George
III wasn't insane all the time, I think there was 2 distinct periods
with a few years between. Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 12:49 PM (pHfeF)
=====
Napoleonic wars and the 'romantic' Regency. Covered extensively in romance novels.
If I remember right George I didn't speak English or not much, George
III wasn't insane all the time, I think there was 2 distinct periods
with a few years between. Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 12:49 PM (pHfeF)
=====
Napoleonic wars and the 'romantic' Regency. Covered extensively in romance novels.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 17, 2018 12:53 PM (MIKMs)
455
Shouldn't that palindrome be...Aibohphobia?
Shouldn't that palindrome be...Aibohphobia?
Posted by: Spun & Pedantic at June 17, 2018 12:53 PM (4DCSq)
456
100 years ago next month, where I am sitting was the location of a submarine vs. airplane battle, sort of. A German sub was attempting (presumably) to sabotage the Trans-Atlantic cable that ran from Orleans to Brest. A tugboat called the Perth Amboy spotted a periscope, and shortly thereafter the sub launched a shell through the pilothouse. The alarm went up and a plane from Chatham headed to Orleans, but the sub had already destroyed the barges with the tugboat, and people were scrambling from shore to rescue overboard passengers. The plane had one bomb, which didn't explode when dropped, so they resorted to throwing wrenches and everything that wasn't nailed down at the sub while locals blasted at the Krauts with shotguns. The sub then aimed shells ashore, which was the first attack on the U.S. mainland since 1812.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 17, 2018 12:55 PM (l14X/)
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Pedantic nit-pick: It's not HAM radio, it's just ham radio. You don't have to capitalize the word ham.
Some people really LIKE ham.
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 10:45 AM (EEuOO)
I read in a very old book that ham was for "hambone". Lot of slapping thighs and chest in rhythm.
Which is a good definition of morse as you can get I suppose
Some people really LIKE ham.
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 10:45 AM (EEuOO)
I read in a very old book that ham was for "hambone". Lot of slapping thighs and chest in rhythm.
Which is a good definition of morse as you can get I suppose
Posted by: Kindltot at June 17, 2018 12:56 PM (2K6fY)
458
Aibohphobia is an impossible word in Greek. There is no standalone 'h' and the aspirant-marker would be redundant over a phi, anyway.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 17, 2018 12:56 PM (6FqZa)
459
JoeF. I'm sure even in Kotkin's book one can see one huge difference in the *degree* of brutality and repression between pre- and post-revolutionary Russia.
Exile. Stalin himself and every Bolshevik figure of consequence in later years were exiled, many repeatedly. Can't recall any major ones who were killed, or not allowed to return to society. Many violated terms of their exile, with impunity.
There isn't a single instance known of anything remotely similar happening under the Soviets. In fact they did very little of the exile-as-isolation thing - it was labor (often, death) camps at the end of that 3-day rail trip, not some bleak village wondering why the hell all the over-edumucated people from northwest Russia (living decently, often writing and with rights to correspond) were cluttering their obscure community.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 12:35 PM (QDnY+)
True.
I guess you can say that the Soviets learned from the mistakes of Tsarism and perfected the police sate, leaving little room for error.....or mercy.
Exile. Stalin himself and every Bolshevik figure of consequence in later years were exiled, many repeatedly. Can't recall any major ones who were killed, or not allowed to return to society. Many violated terms of their exile, with impunity.
There isn't a single instance known of anything remotely similar happening under the Soviets. In fact they did very little of the exile-as-isolation thing - it was labor (often, death) camps at the end of that 3-day rail trip, not some bleak village wondering why the hell all the over-edumucated people from northwest Russia (living decently, often writing and with rights to correspond) were cluttering their obscure community.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 12:35 PM (QDnY+)
True.
I guess you can say that the Soviets learned from the mistakes of Tsarism and perfected the police sate, leaving little room for error.....or mercy.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2018 12:57 PM (y8Foj)
460
It occurs to me that WWI was an excellent argument against conscription. The availability of millions of men pressed into service against their will enabled the generals to be lazy and use ancient tactics even though they had been shown to be not up to the task. "Yes, that last frontal assault against the enemy's trenches failed, but let's try it again with 10,000 more men. That will work for sure."
With all-volunteer forces, the generals might have been forced to be more creative.
With all-volunteer forces, the generals might have been forced to be more creative.
Posted by: rickl at June 17, 2018 12:58 PM (sdi6R)
461
A few well-placed bullets-- probably less than five-- could have saved history from The Soviet Union....
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2018 12:59 PM (y8Foj)
462
By God, Fritz, is that a copy of OS/2 sitting up on that shelf?
Posted by: Gadzooks Mike at June 17, 2018 01:00 PM (p9mPa)
Posted by: Gadzooks Mike at June 17, 2018 01:02 PM (p9mPa)
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442 Far, far too many years ago I stood at the edge of that open field and looked across at 'The Fishook' and wondered what it must have like to be waiting for the order to "Advance".
Two years later I was charging across an open rice paddy with a platoon of Marines towards a tree line manned by people armed with automatic weapons. Afterwards I reflected on the similarity.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 12:45 PM (KsOxJ)
Yikes. Life imitating life.
Two years later I was charging across an open rice paddy with a platoon of Marines towards a tree line manned by people armed with automatic weapons. Afterwards I reflected on the similarity.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 12:45 PM (KsOxJ)
Yikes. Life imitating life.
Posted by: m at June 17, 2018 01:04 PM (/TzhX)
465
The sub then aimed shells ashore, which was the first attack on the U.S. mainland since 1812.
Huh. I did not know that.
Huh. I did not know that.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 01:06 PM (fuK7c)
466
458 Aibohphobia is an impossible word in Greek. There is no standalone 'h' and the aspirant-marker would be redundant over a phi, anyway.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 17, 2018 12:56 PM (6FqZa)
It's a neologism. For fun.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 17, 2018 12:56 PM (6FqZa)
It's a neologism. For fun.
Posted by: m at June 17, 2018 01:07 PM (/TzhX)
467
JTB and other Dune lovers/haters
I can't answer that question, but it reminded me of another Frank Herbert novel, The White Plague, that I recently re-read. Very well-written, about a biologist who goes off the deep end after his family is killed in an IRA bombing and builds a tailored bio-weapon to answer the "Irish Question" once and for all. Interesting and possibly prescient.
I can't answer that question, but it reminded me of another Frank Herbert novel, The White Plague, that I recently re-read. Very well-written, about a biologist who goes off the deep end after his family is killed in an IRA bombing and builds a tailored bio-weapon to answer the "Irish Question" once and for all. Interesting and possibly prescient.
Posted by: motionview at June 17, 2018 01:07 PM (pYQR/)
468
A few well-placed bullets-- probably less than five-- could have saved history from The Soviet Union
But then what? An interim military dictatorship by some bigot like Kolchak, would be the only alternative I see. It would have ended up like Chang Kai Shek's China. Either it would fall apart or else they would be getting some Stalin tier tyrant anyway, just a little later.
But then what? An interim military dictatorship by some bigot like Kolchak, would be the only alternative I see. It would have ended up like Chang Kai Shek's China. Either it would fall apart or else they would be getting some Stalin tier tyrant anyway, just a little later.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 17, 2018 01:08 PM (6FqZa)
469
Are we to peruse these threadbare words for ever?
Will there never be new threads?
Will there never be new threads?
Posted by: Millie at June 17, 2018 01:08 PM (wyeK6)
470
The people of Brattleboro wants to wish Presdent Obama a "Hoppy Fathers Day". We still love you and miss you very much. We needs to get rid of Trump before he screws up the country more!! Run for Presdent in 2020 and Hilllary as your Vice Presdent !!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 17, 2018 01:09 PM (qM84C)
471
'Fun'? Bah! Only a low class canting fool cares about 'fun'. Or an American
Posted by: Samuel Johnson at June 17, 2018 01:10 PM (6FqZa)
472
Are we to peruse these threadbare words for ever?
Will there never be new threads?
Posted by: Millie at June 17, 2018 01:08 PM (wyeK6)
We could have a sing-along.
Will there never be new threads?
Posted by: Millie at June 17, 2018 01:08 PM (wyeK6)
We could have a sing-along.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 01:10 PM (fZuhk)
473
@429 Reminds me of a few other George's on this side of the pond.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
Little something special for you on the subject of Georges:
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Posted by: Hairyback Guy
Little something special for you on the subject of Georges:
https://tinyurl.com/y8x76xm8
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 17, 2018 01:10 PM (H5rtT)
474
I read in a very old book that ham was for "hambone". Lot of slapping thighs and chest in rhythm.
Did it mention the farting ?
Did it mention the farting ?
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 01:10 PM (EEuOO)
475
4pm, CBD will save us
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 01:11 PM (pHfeF)
476
It did help the Russians that the head of the Austrian counter-intellegence service, Col Alfred Redl. had sold them the complete Austrian Army mobilizations plans, so the Russians could be fairly certain of what moves to take.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 17, 2018 12:49 PM (2K6fY)
Plans that were completely useless.....unless Russia mobilized for war. If they hadn't, Austria wouldn't have touched them. In fact, Austria couldn't touch them. As a military force, Austria might have been able to take out Serbia......maybe. But, as a German officer said about the Austro-Hungarian Empire, "We are shackled to a corpse."
Posted by: Kindltot at June 17, 2018 12:49 PM (2K6fY)
Plans that were completely useless.....unless Russia mobilized for war. If they hadn't, Austria wouldn't have touched them. In fact, Austria couldn't touch them. As a military force, Austria might have been able to take out Serbia......maybe. But, as a German officer said about the Austro-Hungarian Empire, "We are shackled to a corpse."
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 17, 2018 01:11 PM (9BLnV)
477
I read The White Plague in high school. Didn't care for it. That's probably why I didn't tackle the Dune books until I was so old that I don't remember high school.
Posted by: Jim S. at June 17, 2018 01:11 PM (ynUnH)
478
"Yes, that last frontal assault against the enemy's trenches failed, but let's try it again with 10,000 more men. That will work for sure."
The thing I took away from Guns of August was less whodunnit and more moral catastrophe.
Everyone had observers at our Civil War, so they all should have known what industrial war looked like. Everyone had observers at the Russo-Sino war to they knew mechanized industrial war.
French military still held that "elan" carried battles and made horse cavalry charges against fixed positions. And then the trenches...
It was a stupid slaughter. One reason I don't know more about WWI is that it's infuriating to read about it.
The thing I took away from Guns of August was less whodunnit and more moral catastrophe.
Everyone had observers at our Civil War, so they all should have known what industrial war looked like. Everyone had observers at the Russo-Sino war to they knew mechanized industrial war.
French military still held that "elan" carried battles and made horse cavalry charges against fixed positions. And then the trenches...
It was a stupid slaughter. One reason I don't know more about WWI is that it's infuriating to read about it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 01:12 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Samuel Johnson at June 17, 2018 01:12 PM (6FqZa)
480
471 'Fun'? Bah! Only a low class canting fool cares about 'fun'. Or an American
Posted by: Samuel Johnson at June 17, 2018 01:10 PM (6FqZa)
Here I stand; I can do no other.
Posted by: Samuel Johnson at June 17, 2018 01:10 PM (6FqZa)
Here I stand; I can do no other.
Posted by: m at June 17, 2018 01:12 PM (/TzhX)
481
But if joesephistan brings up maple syrup on hamburgers that could end that.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 01:14 PM (pHfeF)
482
469 Are we to peruse these threadbare words for ever?
Will there never be new threads?
Posted by: Millie at June 17, 2018 01:08 PM (wyeK6)
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#twoweeks
Will there never be new threads?
Posted by: Millie at June 17, 2018 01:08 PM (wyeK6)
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#twoweeks
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 17, 2018 01:14 PM (0jtPF)
483
After quite enough of Elan and La Gloire, the poilu French kind of dis-volunteered. This eventually brought about all sorts of changes, in tactics and in political life. Their government executed quite a lot of them for it.
We are still mocking them for it today.
We are still mocking them for it today.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 17, 2018 01:16 PM (H5rtT)
484
We could fight about giving the Great War a better name.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 01:16 PM (fuK7c)
485
477 I read The White Plague in high school. Didn't care for it. That's probably why I didn't tackle the Dune books until I was so old that I don't remember high school.
Posted by: Jim S. at June 17, 2018 01:11 PM (ynUnH)
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OTOH, The White Death, which is a history of tuberculosis, is quite good. Highly recommended!
Posted by: Jim S. at June 17, 2018 01:11 PM (ynUnH)
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OTOH, The White Death, which is a history of tuberculosis, is quite good. Highly recommended!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 17, 2018 01:17 PM (0jtPF)
486
Psycho Joe Scarborough actually said that because the kids are getting showers, that's just like the nazis sending people to the "showers."
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 09:43 AM (ANIFC)
Really? That sounds actionable.
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 09:43 AM (ANIFC)
Really? That sounds actionable.
Posted by: m at June 17, 2018 01:17 PM (/TzhX)
487
I just finished American Guerilla in the Philippines by (Major and Ensign) Iliff David Richardson. (actually written by Ira Wolfertt) He was tasked with getting a chain of radio stations for coast watching in Souther Leyte after his PT boat got sunk and the American forces in the Philippines surrendered.
He tried to sail an outrigger to Australia with no idea of what he was doing, and got sunk by a flurry and had to swim ashore.
He talks about the coalescing of Americans and Philippines military that escaped or didn't surrender into what were essentially bandit gangs, and how they started gathering in actual guerilla armies - he was under Kangleon - got tasked to set up communications there, and then when he got radio connection with San Francisco with a home-brew rig --- Encoding by the way with the Jeffersonian cylinder cypher (M94 Disc Cypher device) --they got involved with the on site part of working for the invasion of the Philippines.
It was a huge struggle to set up radios, keep the Japanese and Philippine occupation constabulary and informers from betraying them, and find fuel for the generators, and keep troops on hand.
At the beginning they fashioned a telegraph from miles of re-purposed barbed wires using broken bottles as insulators, and at one point Richardson was taken to task by a superior for using a "fifth columnist" as an operator, taking a radio technician out of a POW camp to keep the equipment functioning and using deserting Philippine occupation collaborators as general labor.
I used "Major and Ensign" since he was an Ensign in the US navy when his PT boat was sunk, but was awarded Major in the Guerrillas, and he refers to himself that way a number of times.
Very interesting book. The discussion on the collapse of American resistance and American forces is brushed over lightly, but I found it kind of scary.
He tried to sail an outrigger to Australia with no idea of what he was doing, and got sunk by a flurry and had to swim ashore.
He talks about the coalescing of Americans and Philippines military that escaped or didn't surrender into what were essentially bandit gangs, and how they started gathering in actual guerilla armies - he was under Kangleon - got tasked to set up communications there, and then when he got radio connection with San Francisco with a home-brew rig --- Encoding by the way with the Jeffersonian cylinder cypher (M94 Disc Cypher device) --they got involved with the on site part of working for the invasion of the Philippines.
It was a huge struggle to set up radios, keep the Japanese and Philippine occupation constabulary and informers from betraying them, and find fuel for the generators, and keep troops on hand.
At the beginning they fashioned a telegraph from miles of re-purposed barbed wires using broken bottles as insulators, and at one point Richardson was taken to task by a superior for using a "fifth columnist" as an operator, taking a radio technician out of a POW camp to keep the equipment functioning and using deserting Philippine occupation collaborators as general labor.
I used "Major and Ensign" since he was an Ensign in the US navy when his PT boat was sunk, but was awarded Major in the Guerrillas, and he refers to himself that way a number of times.
Very interesting book. The discussion on the collapse of American resistance and American forces is brushed over lightly, but I found it kind of scary.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 17, 2018 01:17 PM (2K6fY)
488
20 people injured in arts festival shooting in People's republic of New Jersey
Maybe they don't deserve nice things
Maybe they don't deserve nice things
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 01:18 PM (pHfeF)
489
469 Are we to peruse these threadbare words for ever?
Will there never be new threads?
Posted by: Millie at June 17, 2018 01:08 PM (wyeK6)
What, will this thread ne'er be replaced?
Will there never be new threads?
Posted by: Millie at June 17, 2018 01:08 PM (wyeK6)
What, will this thread ne'er be replaced?
Posted by: m at June 17, 2018 01:18 PM (/TzhX)
490
nood by MisHum
Posted by: m at June 17, 2018 01:19 PM (/TzhX)
491
Little something special for you on the subject of Georges:
https://tinyurl.com/y8x76xm8
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 17, 2018 01:10 PM (H5rtT)
Sounds like Calypso Louie and his Charmers....
1937!.......Thanks SD!
https://tinyurl.com/y8x76xm8
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 17, 2018 01:10 PM (H5rtT)
Sounds like Calypso Louie and his Charmers....
1937!.......Thanks SD!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2018 01:19 PM (EoRCO)
492
Legal Insurrection has Former CIA/NSA chief Gen Michael Hayden compared US border policy to Nazi extermination camps
When everyone is a Nazi, no one is a Nazi.
When everyone is a Nazi, no one is a Nazi.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 01:22 PM (pHfeF)
493
Are we to peruse these threadbare words for ever?
Will there never be new threads?
Don't leave now! I'm finally getting caught up!
Will there never be new threads?
Don't leave now! I'm finally getting caught up!
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 17, 2018 01:22 PM (7oUUT)
494
But if joesephistan brings up maple syrup on hamburgers that could end that.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 01:14 PM (pHfeF)
That actually sounds good, with Maple Bacon beans from Bush's Beans. Just in time for lunch.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 01:14 PM (pHfeF)
That actually sounds good, with Maple Bacon beans from Bush's Beans. Just in time for lunch.
Posted by: tbodie at June 17, 2018 01:23 PM (Ol/Jg)
495
Bander - equating French military 'thinking' with anything even remotely rational is always a mistake. Their notion of 'elan' harkened back to Napoleanic columns - an unstoppable mass of men moving ever forward while ignoring the body count. Wellington crossed that 'T' and the French would never let any Brit proove them wrong.
When we entered the war the French wanted to break up our units and use Americans as 'replacements'. Pershing put a stop to that notion in a hurry.
When we entered the war the French wanted to break up our units and use Americans as 'replacements'. Pershing put a stop to that notion in a hurry.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 17, 2018 01:27 PM (KsOxJ)
496
I found the amateur radio book fascinating, that's why I got my license!
Posted by: Nellie Ohr at June 17, 2018 01:32 PM (K2jyi)
497
When we entered the war the French wanted to break up our units and use Americans as 'replacements'. Pershing put a stop to that notion in a hurry.
Yup. Wise man.
Yup. Wise man.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 01:38 PM (fuK7c)
498
If you want to learn about the Middle Ages, it's important to get away from the stock BS impressions we all have spoonfed to us. I STRONGLY recommend C S Lewis's introduction to his volume of the Oxford History of English Lit (16th C). One worth reading is Gimpel's Medieval Machine except for the last chapter when he goes all 1970s leftist. (Still, in those days pinkos could compartmentalize their pinkery, and still do the scholarship thing.)
Posted by: George LeS at June 17, 2018 01:41 PM (59GGI)
499
Reading the appendix items now in the last volume of Churchill's war memoirs, so only a few pages to go.
I remain astounded that he was ousted before the war with Japan was over.
Still reading 'Turing, the Enigma' and Sowell's 'Black Rednecks and White Liberals'. Sowell's chapter on the history of slavery should be read by everyone.
In the queue, two Moron-recommended books, 'Stalingrad', and 'Siege at Jadotville'. I have also ordered a copy of 'Target Hiroshima: Deak Parsons and the Creation of the Atomic Bomb'. A friend has assured me that it is an excellent read. Apparently Parsons was aboard The Enola Gay and was the fellow who armed the bomb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Sterling_Parsons
I remain astounded that he was ousted before the war with Japan was over.
Still reading 'Turing, the Enigma' and Sowell's 'Black Rednecks and White Liberals'. Sowell's chapter on the history of slavery should be read by everyone.
In the queue, two Moron-recommended books, 'Stalingrad', and 'Siege at Jadotville'. I have also ordered a copy of 'Target Hiroshima: Deak Parsons and the Creation of the Atomic Bomb'. A friend has assured me that it is an excellent read. Apparently Parsons was aboard The Enola Gay and was the fellow who armed the bomb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Sterling_Parsons
Posted by: Nellie Ohr at June 17, 2018 01:44 PM (pNih8)
500
The funny thing about George III is that
(a) He was the last Brit king to try to retain royal prerogative, which the previous Georges pretty much abdicated, but
(b) He totally threw away a golden opportunity over America. In fact, most of what we complained about really originated in Commons, not the crown. He had an opportunity to stand up for our independence of Parliamentary control. And blew it, by backing Parliament. (There's even an early argument from Franklin taking pretty much this position. And there was a lot of English opposition to us based on backing Parliamentary supremacy.)
(a) He was the last Brit king to try to retain royal prerogative, which the previous Georges pretty much abdicated, but
(b) He totally threw away a golden opportunity over America. In fact, most of what we complained about really originated in Commons, not the crown. He had an opportunity to stand up for our independence of Parliamentary control. And blew it, by backing Parliament. (There's even an early argument from Franklin taking pretty much this position. And there was a lot of English opposition to us based on backing Parliamentary supremacy.)
Posted by: George LeS at June 17, 2018 01:46 PM (59GGI)
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When we entered the war the French wanted to break up our units and use Americans as 'replacements'
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The French still have a Napoleon complex, when what they should have is a Marcel Marceau complex.
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The French still have a Napoleon complex, when what they should have is a Marcel Marceau complex.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2018 01:48 PM (pNih8)
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JTB and other Dune lovers/haters
I can't answer that question, but it reminded me of another Frank Herbert novel, The White Plague, that I recently re-read. Very well-written, about a biologist who goes off the deep end after his family is killed in an IRA bombing and builds a tailored bio-weapon to answer the "Irish Question" once and for all. Interesting and possibly prescient.
Posted by: motionview at June 17, 2018 01:07 PM (pYQR/)
That sounds like it might have been an inspiration for one of the plot devices in John Ringo's Live Free or Die, in which the bad guys unleash a bio-weapon that is fatal to everyone who isn't blonde, and then causes the blonde women to go into heat.
I can't answer that question, but it reminded me of another Frank Herbert novel, The White Plague, that I recently re-read. Very well-written, about a biologist who goes off the deep end after his family is killed in an IRA bombing and builds a tailored bio-weapon to answer the "Irish Question" once and for all. Interesting and possibly prescient.
Posted by: motionview at June 17, 2018 01:07 PM (pYQR/)
That sounds like it might have been an inspiration for one of the plot devices in John Ringo's Live Free or Die, in which the bad guys unleash a bio-weapon that is fatal to everyone who isn't blonde, and then causes the blonde women to go into heat.
Posted by: cool breeze at June 17, 2018 01:50 PM (UGKMd)
503
Eh, sock fail at 499.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2018 01:50 PM (wA0yZ)
504
I think I saw recently that Pershing allowed some black American units to be put under French command.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 01:51 PM (fuK7c)
505
HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO ALL THE PATRIARCHAL MORONS HERE!!! Thank you for lots of good laughs and frequent words of wisdom ))
Posted by: Roozter at June 17, 2018 01:56 PM (lEynA)
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The French still have a Napoleon complex, when what they should have is a Marcel Marceau complex.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2018 01:48 PM (pNih
Id like to have Sophie Marceau in my apartment complex....
The French still have a Napoleon complex, when what they should have is a Marcel Marceau complex.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2018 01:48 PM (pNih
Id like to have Sophie Marceau in my apartment complex....
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2018 02:09 PM (y8Foj)
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Parliament wanted a weak German family on the throne because that meant that Parliament got to do anything it wanted with no real interference by the figurehead monarch. I don't think George 1 ever even learned to speak English. George II was a non-entity, George III was insane, and George IV was a frustrated hairdresser, complete idiot, and the most notorious drunk of his age. That's the line Parliament picked in place of an actual English king.
The Stuarts were lousy kings and very closely identified with Absolutism as a governing philosophy. The American Revolution was in large part triggered by a fear that George III was acting like a Stuart.
I have no idea why an American would consider the Stuarts better than the Hanoverians for any reason other than poorly conceived cultural chauvenism - i.e., a native born king is automatically better than a foreign-born one, due to some magic in the soil...
The Stuarts were lousy kings and very closely identified with Absolutism as a governing philosophy. The American Revolution was in large part triggered by a fear that George III was acting like a Stuart.
I have no idea why an American would consider the Stuarts better than the Hanoverians for any reason other than poorly conceived cultural chauvenism - i.e., a native born king is automatically better than a foreign-born one, due to some magic in the soil...
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 17, 2018 02:14 PM (bZ7mE)
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a native born king is automatically better than a foreign-born one, due to some magic in the soil...
Yeah, our foreign born President worked out just fine.
*ducks*
Yeah, our foreign born President worked out just fine.
*ducks*
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 02:17 PM (fuK7c)
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Yeah, our foreign born President worked out just fine.
*ducks*
You think Billy Ayers would have been better?
*ducks*
You think Billy Ayers would have been better?
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 17, 2018 02:23 PM (bZ7mE)
510
Gorgeous day out.
Oooooh, look what I got from the library -- Full Service: My Adventures in Hollywood and the Secret Sex Lives of the Stars by Scotty Bowers.
It looks like he tricked everyone in Hollywood, male and female.
"Errol Flynn was quite the lothario, but he drank so much he couldn't always satisfy the ladies I set up for him to have sex with -- that's where I would step in."
Oooooh, look what I got from the library -- Full Service: My Adventures in Hollywood and the Secret Sex Lives of the Stars by Scotty Bowers.
It looks like he tricked everyone in Hollywood, male and female.
"Errol Flynn was quite the lothario, but he drank so much he couldn't always satisfy the ladies I set up for him to have sex with -- that's where I would step in."
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 17, 2018 02:29 PM (JxMDl)
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April: Thanks for mentioning Standing At The Edge, I'm really glad you're enjoying it. New book comes out this Thursday! $2.99 on Kindle, titled Jurassic Jail.
If anybody is interested in the fight for Austria in 1945, I've got a contract for a book on this for publication next year from Helion Books. About 60% finished or more right now.
Been studying WW2 all my life and writing WW2 history for the past 30 years. That's my first book on it, though.
If anybody is interested in the fight for Austria in 1945, I've got a contract for a book on this for publication next year from Helion Books. About 60% finished or more right now.
Been studying WW2 all my life and writing WW2 history for the past 30 years. That's my first book on it, though.
Posted by: William Alan Webb at June 17, 2018 02:34 PM (OhYcy)
512
Once again I kill the comments section.
Posted by: William Alan Webb at June 17, 2018 03:16 PM (OhYcy)
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No worries. It were already dead.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 03:16 PM (fuK7c)
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Posted by: William Alan Webb at June 17, 2018 02:34 PM (OhYcy)
If you know of any good sources about German labour camps and what they were working on or how to get records, I'd appreciate it!
WRT going to a book signing - I'm and author and I've also been to several signings (one for Dale Chihuly in fact, another at Barnes and Noble for Mindhunter by John Douglas and a few more), and I have never had to pay or seen anyone ask for payment to get in. They want you to go and listen to the chat and buy a book there, but I've never had to pay just to go, nor would I ever charge anyone even if I became a best selling author.
If you know of any good sources about German labour camps and what they were working on or how to get records, I'd appreciate it!
WRT going to a book signing - I'm and author and I've also been to several signings (one for Dale Chihuly in fact, another at Barnes and Noble for Mindhunter by John Douglas and a few more), and I have never had to pay or seen anyone ask for payment to get in. They want you to go and listen to the chat and buy a book there, but I've never had to pay just to go, nor would I ever charge anyone even if I became a best selling author.
Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at June 17, 2018 03:26 PM (Gim9y)
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Three Men in a Boat for .83 on Kindle a little while ago.
84 pages in and well worth it. Dry British wit is really hard to beat.
Thanks for the multiple recommendations.
84 pages in and well worth it. Dry British wit is really hard to beat.
Thanks for the multiple recommendations.
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 17, 2018 04:31 PM (2txvL)
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Atomicplaygirl - What do you mean by Labor Camps? Do you mean forced labor, the Todt Organization, camps situated next to factories? (Such as Mauthausen.)
Posted by: William Alan Webb at June 17, 2018 04:35 PM (OhYcy)
Posted by: sestamibi at June 17, 2018 04:51 PM (bTnay)
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Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Oh, and we've got a new category of readers, escaped oafs and oafettes.
Hmmm, who are these escapees? I identify with them.
Hmmm, who are these escapees? I identify with them.
Posted by: platypus at June 17, 2018 04:53 PM (E6qoh)
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Just checked out library book: Infomocracy.
NPR reviewed it which means its possibly crammed with sugary prog calories. Jacket blurb: Corp AI controlls life - thriller skinned with cyberpunk theme.
NPR reviewed it which means its possibly crammed with sugary prog calories. Jacket blurb: Corp AI controlls life - thriller skinned with cyberpunk theme.
Posted by: 13times at June 17, 2018 07:06 PM (K3B2k)
520
341 Ha! That's a NeXT manual up on the case, probably up there 20 or more years. It was an operating system that replaced the old Mac operating system, years ahead of it's time.
Yeah, I coded the original.
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at June 17, 2018 11:39 AM (gqWCa)
Respect.
Also, I'd throw out the Win95 & NT books and keep the NeXT docs.
BTW, how was it to work for Steve Jobs? NeXT was a BSD derivative, correct?
Yeah, I coded the original.
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at June 17, 2018 11:39 AM (gqWCa)
Respect.
Also, I'd throw out the Win95 & NT books and keep the NeXT docs.
BTW, how was it to work for Steve Jobs? NeXT was a BSD derivative, correct?
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at June 17, 2018 07:10 PM (J3vQe)
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BLITHERING!
As a lefty I do LOTS of Bluthering, MSNBC Blithers.
Damn people. Words Matter. Don't joint the leftist horde in redefining words.
As a lefty I do LOTS of Bluthering, MSNBC Blithers.
Damn people. Words Matter. Don't joint the leftist horde in redefining words.
Posted by: @Aelishdad at June 17, 2018 07:15 PM (bPQ3r)
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New research reveals that the physician behind Asperger's syndrome was an active participant in Nazi eugenics
https://bit.ly/2t7ahQn
https://bit.ly/2t7ahQn
Posted by: Trigger Warning at June 17, 2018 10:05 PM (YRXy3)
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the herbal doctor was able to cure me from my HIV Virus with his herbal
medicine. I have been a HIV patient for almost 8 months now and have
tried different methods of treatment to ensure that I am cured of this
terrible disease, but none worked for me, so I had to leave everything
to God to handle as I was a Christian who had faith that one day God
would intervene in my life, yet I felt so sad and desperate
as I was losing almost everything due to my illness, A few months ago
while I was surfing the internet I saw different recommendation about Dr
idahosa on how he have been using his herbal Medicine to treat and cure
people, these people advice we contact Dr. idahosa for any problem that
would help immediately, I contacted Dr idahosa and I told him how I got
his contact and also about my disease, after some time Dr. idahosa told
me to have faith that he would prepare for me a medication of herbal
herbs, he told me I would take this medicine for a few weeks and also
asked my home for home address so as possible for him to submit the drug
for me, so my good friends after all the process and everything Dr
idahosa actually sent me the medicine, I took it as I was directed by
Dr. idahosa, after a few weeks passed, while on Dr.idahosa medication I
began to experience changes in my body, I had to call my doctor at the
hospital for some blood test after test my hospital doctor told me that I
was no longer with the Hiv virus and my blood is pretty good, I can not
even believe this, Friends well today i am Hiv Free and i want everyone
to know that there is a cure for Hiv for those who will contact Dr
idahosa after reading my testimony, you can kindly contact Dr. idahosa
in (dridahosasolutioncenter@gmail.com) or call him +2348134261542, God
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