The Fall of the House of Mouse: "The Last Jedi" DVDs and Blu-Rays Selling Poorly;
Marvel Movies Beyond Avengers 4 May Feature the Despised SJW "Replacement Characters" That Nearly Killed Marvel Comics

Most of the below links are to videos, not articles. You may want to skip the links if you're at work.

First: Disney's publicity machine got a new recruit in its war on (former) Star Wars fans: Steven Colbert decided to attack them as racist, sexist manbabies.

Everything to protect his Khalisi Kathleen Kennedy.

As I think Jeremy of Geeks + Gamers pointed out, Disney does not want The Narrative to be about its huge and embarrassing failure, so it has decided to deploy the Obama "Stray Voltage" technique of putting out a hyperpoliticized competing story that will dominate the headlines instead of headlines about their failure.

"Stray Voltage" was Obama's cynical media strategy: when a story was so bad and big that it couldn't be spun in your favor, just create a partisan political food-fight for people to argue about. The idea is that its better to have people talking about a partisan political fight, which neither hurts you nor helps you, rather than have them talking about a disaster which definitely hurts you.

The Stray Voltage story they've decided on is that Solo and The Last Jedi only failed because Star Wars fans are all racist, sexist manbabies who are also alt-right Nazis.

He noted (I think) that during Gamergate, there was a coordinated campaign among left-wing games "reporters" to declare, on the same day and employing the same language and arguments, that "Gamers are Dead" and that videogame companies should no longer cater to gamers.

Yeah, that makes no sense. Gamers are obviously going to be at least 50% of your clientele; Filthy Casuals will make up the rest.

The argument seemed to be that gamers, being dead and all, and also being racist, sexist manbabies, should be abandoned as core audience sector in favor of just trying to sell games to Filthy Casuals.

And now, Jeremy (I think it was him) reports a bunch of the Star Wars Shill Media all making the argument that Star Wars should no longer attempt to appeal to Star Wars fans, but instead should just appeal to non-Star Wars fans, new viewers, casual fans.

I hope actual Star Wars fans are paying attention, and I hope they're making the deduction that the Star Wars Shill Media jumps when Disney says "jump," and there is good reason to think this bullshit comes from Disney Propaganda Central.

Jeremy also compares the first week DVD/Blu-Ray sales of The Force Awakens to The Last Jedi. The Last Jedi only sold 56% of the DVDs/Blu-Rays The Force Awakens during its first week, 3,420,000 for TFA vs. 1,940,000 (rounded to the nearest thousand). That's $40,000,000 in lost revenue for first-week sales, comparing the two films.

This seems to indicate that people who saw The Last Jedi didn't like it very much, or at least didn't like it enough to feel they needed to pick up the DVD/Blu-Ray. Jeremy notes that a DVD/Blu-Ray sale indicates a positive vote for a movie, whereas a refusal to buy it indicates a negative vote.

He also says that Disney had hidden these numbers until now, even though The Last Jedi DVDs/Blu-Rays begun being sold in March.

In another video, I think Jeremy also pointed out that The Last Jedi had a whopping 69% drop from its first weekend of theatrical release to its second, indicating that when word of mouth got out, people became a lot less excited to see the movie. Grace Randolph talked about that huge drop at the time, citing "bad word of mouth" as a factor.

So Disney, which is the most evil of the big media corporations, seems to have damaged the franchise it paid $4.05 billion for.

But what about Marvel Studios? Disney spent $4.24 billion for that.

So far, of course, Marvel Studios has been very, very profitable. Kevin Feige has been a very cool hand at the wheel, unlike Kathleen Kennedy at LucasFilm.

But there's a problem coming for Marvel Studios: It has run out of even B and C list characters to exploit, and as its current actors become too expensive, too old, or no longer interested in doing these movies, it will either have to recast them or replace them.

Recasting them may work. Bruce Banner has been played by three different actors and no one seems to care. Peter Parker too.

But some actors seem irreplaceable, like Robert Downey, Jr.

And the problem is, Kevin Feige doesn't seem to be talking about recasting the major players.

Instead, he seems to be talking about what Marvel Comics did, and replacing the characters with race-and-gender-swapped new characters who just wear the same costume as the old, beloved characters, but who have no purchase in the public imagination.

It has been suspected by some that the whole SJW Replacement of iconic Marvel Comics characters was done at the request of Disney/Marvel Studios, anticipating the exit of Robert Downey, Jr., Chris Evans, etc., and wanting substitute characters established ahead of time to replace them with, ready to go the moment the current actors' contracts expired.

In this video, Yellow Flash looks at Feige's answers at a Producers Guild conference and thinks his answers, while not definitive, indicate that Feige intends the Replacement Character route (or is being ordered to go down this path by SJW Disney).



"Different incarnations of the characters you know/Introducing completely new characters you've never heard of before (unless you're a comics fan)" sure seems to indicate that they'll be replacing Captain America with the Falcon (which wouldn't be that bad), Iron Man with "Ironheart" (a teenaged black girl), the Hulk with so-called "Bro Hulk" (an Asian guy who is totally awesome, dude!), Thor with Lady Thor, etc.

He could mean digging down to the absolute D-list as well -- I mean, they're pushing the happy-to-make-the-D-list Captain Marvel as their new leader of the Avengers -- and pushing nobodies like Nova and Adam Warlock.

Or Man-Thing. Or Werewolf By Night. Or Son of Satan.

I guess they could reboot Blade and Ghost Rider but... eh.

We've seen all that already.

But even though Ant-Man was very good, it didn't make a lot of money (for Marvel). Ant-Man just isn't a well-known character, and his powers are goofy (which is what made the movie fun, it turns out). Dr. Strange didn't make a lot of money either (again, for Marvel).

I think there is a limit to how far down Marvel can go down into its D- and F-lists before its movies become only semi-profitable, or until they have a Solo-like disaster.

Some people might say, "But they might get back the X-Men and Fantastic Four!"

Well, first of all, that might not happen. Comcast is ready to enter a bidding war for Fox, offering an all-cash bid, and the rights to those characters might wind up remaining out of Disney's reach.

And besides that: The last few X-Men movies have been lame. The upcoming one, about the Dark Phoenix (again!!!), is rumored to be a troubled film needing a lot of reshoots and script tweaking.

Are people really dying to see more X-Men movies after so many duds? Do we need a new Wolverine pining hopelessly after a new Jean Gray?

How many times can we see the same characters in the same situations?

And hasn't the X-Men franchise itself has run out of A-listers to exploit? True, we haven't seen much of Gambit or Nightcrawler, nor Rogue with her full power-set, but whether they're really "A-list" is open for debate, and besides, we have seen them. Just not much of them.

As for the Fantastic Four: There have been three Fantastic Four movies and none of them have been box office champs. One of them, the most recent, was a disaster. Even assuming Marvel Studios can do a better job handling its founding family-- do people really care to sit through a third reboot and, assumedly, third origin story and third Doctor Doom plot?

Anyway, Disney may be facing tougher times ahead, and I couldn't be happier about that.

When all this is over, I'd like Disney to stand as a cautionary tale about injecting SJW politics into movies, TV shows, childrens' cartoons, and sports coverage.

When you position yourself as a de facto political organization, you should be treated as such.

PS: Captain Marvel seems like it just might be a Social Justice Warrior bonanza. I have high hopes that it will be the first Solo-like dud of the MCU.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 04:05 PM




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1 Did I pull it off?

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 12, 2018 03:57 PM (qC1Sy)

2 Woot!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 12, 2018 03:57 PM (qC1Sy)

3 Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 12, 2018 03:58 PM (xBSm0)

4 Double woot!

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 12, 2018 03:58 PM (qC1Sy)

5 Talk about killing the Golden Goose.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 12, 2018 03:58 PM (+Dllb)

6 Maybe everyone is waiting to buy the box set that includes "Yet Another Phucking Jedi" instead of individual movies.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 12, 2018 04:01 PM (5NMZN)

7 Unfortunately too many of the people in charge care far more about what their peers think than the actual audience or the bottom line.

And since the people in charge usually have "fuck you" money, they are perfectly fine taking their woke new IP right off a cliff into bankruptcy.

But I've said for a while conservatives should be constantly pushing piracy if they want to win the Hollywood culture war and really hit these media companies hard.

Posted by: Maritime at June 12, 2018 04:01 PM (lKmt3)

8 Top 100.

Posted by: Weasel at June 12, 2018 04:01 PM (MVjcR)

9 >>>nfortunately too many of the people in charge care far more about what their peers think than the actual audience or the bottom line.

And since the people in charge usually have "fuck you" money, they are perfectly fine taking their woke new IP right off a cliff into bankruptcy.


...

fine by me. I want them bloodied. I don't really care if I see any more Marvel movies or Star Wars movies.


Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:02 PM (8rNrN)

10 I hope they go bankrupt and get bought up by QVC.

These assholes think they can force feed everyone their SJW #meetoo LGBTXYZWTFBBQ rubbish.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 12, 2018 04:02 PM (xBSm0)

11 Gamers are obviously going to be at least 50% of your clientele; Filthy Casuals will make up the rest.

Even Filthy Casuals want *good* games though. Our play style is different, but we wouldn't game even casually if we didn't like the games available. I appreciate not needing to play for hours to get to a save-point, but that doesn't mean I'm okay with dreck like Depression Quest (and especially not with whoring to get good reviews).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 12, 2018 04:02 PM (rp9xB)

12 No sh*t, the Dollar Tree is advertising the latest Ghostbusters movie as in their stores for a buck.

Is it even a year old? And it had f*cking THOR in it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 12, 2018 04:02 PM (VgKNm)

13 good gawd

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 04:03 PM (Bdeb0)

14 North Korea Man!

Posted by: wth at June 12, 2018 04:04 PM (HgMAr)

15 These assholes could fuck up a one car funeral.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 12, 2018 04:04 PM (KnK6d)

16 Steven Colbert decided to attack them as racist, sexist manbabies.

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Ah, the Hillary "deplorables" tactic.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 04:04 PM (+y/Ru)

17 Honestly I've been waiting for the Marvel Cinematic guys to crap on their product. So far they've done a pretty decent job of keeping the classic feel of the characters, even if they are "Ultimate Universe" versions of their stories. No Nazi Cap, for instance.

But these are the same guys who wrecked marvel comics before this SJW wave took root. They are the ones who started hiring the SJW authors and "artists." They are the ones who seem to despise the old characters and stories, who do not really like superheroes as heroes, and think the whole costume and code name system is infantile and unsophisticated.

Basically, everything that makes comics, comics.

So I've been waiting for them to start imposing their ideology and viewpoint more and more than just having few characters actually wear a costume and almost never refer to them by their super hero name (or even openly mock it like Spider-Man does in Civil War).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:04 PM (39g3+)

18 Top 500.

When will these idiots figure out that it is the STORY that makes these comic book characters (and movies) interesting, good and successful. It is NOT the race, gender (only two of them!), or sexual proclivity of the characters.

What fvcking fools.


I hope their crap burns down post haste.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 12, 2018 04:04 PM (8iiMU)

19 At what point does Hollyweird and/or Disney decide that the people who pay to see movies are adults, and would prefer something somewhat adult to view, preferably something new and different, or at least entertaining?

Nothing but recycled crap out there.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 12, 2018 04:05 PM (7UW64)

20 I'm sorry.

But I liked The Tick.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 04:05 PM (5RITs)

21 but that doesn't mean I'm okay with dreck like Depression Quest (and especially not with whoring to get good reviews).
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 12, 2018 04:02 PM (rp9xB)


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NSFW, Gaming Journalism critic done by a puppet, https://goo.gl/ovdtn9

Posted by: auscolpyr at June 12, 2018 04:06 PM (suO/a)

22 Disney has run both of those series into the ground. It is past time to create something new. But all the old talent is gone and has been replaced by SJWs who value PC more than entertainment.


they deserve to go belly-up. Walt is rolling over in his grave at what his company had become.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2018 04:06 PM (mpXpK)

23 6 Maybe everyone is waiting to buy the box set that includes "Yet Another Phucking Jedi" instead of individual movies.
Posted by: RioBravo at June 12, 2018 04:01 PM (5NMZN)



Except it's a dropoff from buys of the first movie. Why were those sales much stronger? It's not like you weren't aware it was a trilogy. If you're just waiting for all 3 wouldn't you see lower sales for Episode 7 as well?

Posted by: buzzion at June 12, 2018 04:06 PM (lKs2v)

24 Spinal Tap was a movie, not an instructional video! No one buys the "playing to a more selective audience" malarkey.

Posted by: pookysgirl at June 12, 2018 04:06 PM (XKZwp)

25 After disintigrating so many main Marvel characters, time for a complete recast/reboot.

Use the Time Stone to make everything we have seen an alternate timeline like JJ did with Star Drek.

Or mix the two.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 12, 2018 04:07 PM (RvWR/)

26 OT: my fellow Virginians, don't forget to vote today in the Republican primary. Heading out to do so myself right now.

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 04:07 PM (oMtOd)

27 I don't know.

I was still under the impression that we're supposed to be over this kind of stuff well before we hit 29.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 04:07 PM (WDCYi)

28 These assholes think they can force feed everyone their SJW #meetoo LGBTXYZWTFBBQ rubbish.

Wow, I had no idea you could barbeque them. Makes them almost useful. Almost.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 12, 2018 04:07 PM (7UW64)

29 When Ace gets deep into SW and Comic Books I start wondering if he's gay.

Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 04:07 PM (2LelM)

30 I know I'm repeating myself in these threads, but I honestly haven't heard this picked up elsewhere. Kevin Feigie, the genius producer at Marvel Cinema sensed this was coming. That's why he created an artificial "ending" to his era in the form of the back to back Infinity War and Avengers 4. He wanted to lock in his master legacy before the SJWs moved in and claimed their skin suit. The guy very, very clever and he has created a sort of golden era of films we can watch over and over.

Posted by: Max Power at June 12, 2018 04:08 PM (q177U)

31 Filthy casuals!?!?


I can't even!

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 04:08 PM (+lOpA)

32 >>And now, Jeremy (I think it was him) reports a bunch of the Star Wars Shill Media all making the argument that Star Wars should no longer attempt to appeal to Star Wars fans, but instead should just appeal to non-Star Wars fans, new viewers, casual fans.



**Spoiler Alert**
That was Kennedy's business plan with the franchise, starting 3 movies ago.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 04:08 PM (W+vEI)

33 "The Stray Voltage story they've decided on is that Solo and The Last
Jedi only failed because Star Wars fans are all racist, sexist manbabies
who are also alt-right Nazis."

So if I understand this correctly, they just spent two buttloads of cash making movies for their fans without knowing who they were?

Are you sure this isn't a story about the Republican party?

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 12, 2018 04:09 PM (37IEG)

34 Some new Antman movie out. Looks like Jessica Biel is some sort of Waspwoman or some shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 12, 2018 04:09 PM (KnK6d)

35 It has been suspected by some that the whole SJW Replacement of iconic Marvel Comics characters was done at the request of Disney/Marvel Studios, anticipating the exit of Robert Downey, Jr., Chris Evans, etc., and wanting substitute characters established ahead of time to replace them with, ready to go the moment the current actors' contracts expired.

That seems like giving them the benefit of a level of intelligence and preplanning that I don't think they have.

I don't think that they knew how well the franchise would do. This whole post is premised on the basis of "well this seems like it has run its course, so they have to figure something else out."

I think the SJW invasion is everywhere, and everything. I suspect SJWs hate the MCU - they were mad at the pose of ScarJo on the poster!!!!! - and they just want to do that thing that Iowahawk said about walking around in the skinsuit demanding respect.

Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 04:09 PM (Z5y53)

36 That was one clunky monologue from colbert. Between star wars, late night and netflix, the entertainment industry is doing a great job of reacquainting me with my bookcase.

Posted by: Chase at June 12, 2018 04:09 PM (RbV5J)

37
Ah, the Hillary "deplorables" tactic.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
________________

And it works. Every. Time...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 12, 2018 04:10 PM (mPeei)

38 they deserve to go belly-up. Walt is rolling over in his grave at what his company had become.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2018 04:06 PM (mpXpK)

Toy Story, Rascal, Daniel Boone, Mary Poppins, Donald Duck, Thomasina, even the execrable Escape to Witch Mountain, for heaven's sake.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 12, 2018 04:10 PM (7UW64)

39 I wonder if a "true to the comics" Fantastic Four origin movie featuring the Mole Man (lol) rather than the iconic Dr Doom would be any worse than the crapfests they've produced so far. Also, the most recent reboot was actually the 4th FF movie, there was one I'm the 80s or something that was so bad i think all the copies were burned.

Posted by: mugiwara at June 12, 2018 04:10 PM (a66Ok)

40 I saw the trailer for Antman and The Wasp. I assume Antman will be a bumbling male superhero saved from his bumbling by female superhero , The Wasp.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 04:10 PM (c6UIl)

41 They kind of have to recast the characters, I mean Robert Downey jr is in his 50s. Chris Evans isn't getting any younger. You can't keep doing the same sort of action character stuff forever unless you want to do the patented Liam Neeson "15 takes to climb a fence" shot every time.

So yeah, it was inevitable that these guys retire. Some of them are still fairly young like Chris Hemsworth but how long will he play Thor? Before Thor 3: the cartoon he already wanted to retire the character.

Now, obviously with James Bond its been proven you can replace the actor with someone who even is significantly different looking and get away with it, so that's always an option. Its kind of like having a new artist take over the comic. But that does not seem to be the approach Feige and the rest want to take.

My guess is we're going to see Squirrel Girl and Ms Muslim Marvel and that kind of thing, none of whom have the historical cachet or the great character design that the original Marvel characters had.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:10 PM (39g3+)

42 wow, corporate america is quite dumb.

go ahead, insult the core audience and pine for people who ain't never going to buy your product unless they are accompanying the core audience to make the core audience happy.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:11 PM (FOPyv)

43 Dismal Studios

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 12, 2018 04:11 PM (IeDO8)

44 37 That was one clunky monologue from colbert. Between star wars, late night and netflix, the entertainment industry is doing a great job of reacquainting me with my bookcase.
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I have a stack of books to read and football is four months off. If I can stop looking at tentacle pron I could be a literate contender.

Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 04:11 PM (2LelM)

45 I vote for ROM SpaceKnight and I'm sorry, you should be able to do Daredevil on the big screen, at least Frank Miller Daredevil.

A faithful depiction of the Dare Devil: Born Again story arch would be epic.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 12, 2018 04:11 PM (2JcMg)

46 Stephen Colbert knows where his bread is buttered, at least.

Or who butters his bread.


Not sure!

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 04:11 PM (+lOpA)

47 aaaarp, aaaarp, aaarp, aaarp....

Posted by: Steffin CoalBurt's clapping seals at June 12, 2018 04:11 PM (7n4KQ)

48 I kind of liked Doctor Strange, even though it was Benedict Cumberbund.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at June 12, 2018 04:12 PM (RD7QR)

49 So- they are going to rip the balls off superheroes?
Maybe that should be the new superpower of a character called SJW-FEM_FAIL.

Posted by: Marcus T, Historian at June 12, 2018 04:12 PM (VpIIl)

50 I always wonder how non-political fans of these franchises react to all of this?

Obviously we have an axe to grind, but does the independent voter/filmgoer care that these sorts of messages are shoved down their throat?

I wonder if it's like a frog being slowly boiled where they don't realize it. It's actually crazy how political pop culture has become over the last 10 years.

Posted by: Maritime at June 12, 2018 04:12 PM (lKmt3)

51 I want a Justice Friends movie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 12, 2018 04:12 PM (IqV8l)

52 the antman/waspwoman movie could be good but if I catch wind of a single grrlpower/manhater lecture in it (like we got from Soylo), forget it.

Wonder Woman was a feminist movie that liked men. let us have more of that.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 04:12 PM (1qOto)

53 Next- Disney makes Mickey Mouse a trannie.

Posted by: Marcus T, Historian at June 12, 2018 04:12 PM (VpIIl)

54 There have been three Fantastic Four movies and none of them have been box office champs. One of them, the most recent, was a disaster.

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Because it sucked! The FF were my favorites back when I was a kid.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 04:12 PM (+y/Ru)

55 I think the SJW stuff is somewhat overblown. Yeah, it's bad for business and insulting half your audience is always a bad idea.

However, in the end, what do all of the super hero movies have in common? They all contain heroes with marvelous powers who manage to overcome the evil genius and, in the process, destroy half of the city.

I think the whole super hero/super villain concept has run its course. Beyond a certain point, it's time for studios to actually get creative and go another direction.

everything points back to the fact that Hollywood has not only run out of ideas, they've run out of the will to actually be, shudder, creative and create movies people want to see.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 12, 2018 04:12 PM (qC1Sy)

56 When will I see a buddy movie with Aquaman and Black Lightning?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:12 PM (yQpMk)

57 This is how Disney treats its fans when they don't want to conform:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83kwNkSXtU

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 04:13 PM (AzW6q)

58 Also, the most recent reboot was actually the 4th FF movie, there was one I'm the 80s or something that was so bad i think all the copies were burned.

Posted by: mugiwara at June 12, 2018 04:10 PM (a66Ok)

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I saw red letter media reviewing it. Made for $1M to maintain the rights or something.

Funny part? It wasn't that bad. Arguably just as good as the recent ones, and helped because the actors were nobodies and actually trying to act for the role and not just cash the paycheck because of their name.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 12, 2018 04:13 PM (VgKNm)

59 Ant Man was actually an outlier for Marvel movies. He was in a very specific costume, he had a code name, and he was having a lot of fun being Ant Man once he figured it out. Now, clearly the girl was better and tougher than him so when she puts on the Wasp Suit my guess its going to be

The Wasp
and
Ant Man

Like puppet show, but we'll see. The first was quite well done for an obscure character.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:13 PM (39g3+)

60 I think we're reaching the end of the comic book movie run. Marvel has done well but after Infinity War concludes I think most people are going to look for something else.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 12, 2018 04:13 PM (J70i0)

61
**Spoiler Alert**
That was Kennedy's business plan with the franchise, starting 3 movies ago.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 04:08 PM (W+vEI)


Yep. That is why they were killing the older characters off.

Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 04:13 PM (Z5y53)

62 This whole thing will be over after Avengers 4.

There, I said it.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 04:14 PM (Boy/L)

63 Relax, people. It's ALL make-believe, just like all but two genders.

Posted by: Roy at June 12, 2018 04:14 PM (7n4KQ)

64 >>>28 I don't know.

I was still under the impression that we're supposed to be over this kind of stuff well before we hit 29.
Posted by: Hikaru a

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This post is about Disney -- the most left-leaning and powerful media corporation in the world -- possibly facing a reckoning.

If all you can see here is "comic books," then might I suggest you read more carefully.

I don't get some of you guys. I really don't.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:14 PM (8rNrN)

65 I know: Weasel Woman, the origin story of Valerie Jarrett.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 04:14 PM (1qOto)

66 >>I think there is a limit to how far down Marvel can go down into its D- and F-lists before its movies become only semi-profitable, or until they have a Solo-like disaster.



Superhero movie fatigue.

They are all blending together. Boring, meaningless CGI fights where big stuff gets trashed (tanks, buildings, forests, whatever) and no one is hurt. *yawn*


And please, no more spidermen!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 04:14 PM (W+vEI)

67 23 Disney has run both of those series into the ground. It is past time to create something new. But all the old talent is gone and has been replaced by SJWs who value PC more than entertainment.


they deserve to go belly-up. Walt is rolling over in his grave at what his company had become.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2018 04:06 PM (mpXpK)


I would love to see the copyright laws returned to some semblance of sanity. It's largely Disney that is responsible for Congress making the copyright period longer and longer.

Posted by: rickl at June 12, 2018 04:14 PM (xjiRE)

68 "Gamers are Dead" and that videogame companies should no longer cater to gamers.

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The only good gamer is a dead gamer!

Posted by: Game Designers Everywhere at June 12, 2018 04:14 PM (+y/Ru)

69 So yeah, it was inevitable that these guys retire. Some of them are still fairly young like Chris Hemsworth but how long will he play Thor? Before Thor 3: the cartoon he already wanted to retire the character.


How about hiring people to x amount of films with a contract? It the franchise goes tits up, you let them out. If it's still making money, you don't let them dictate when it ends?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 04:14 PM (5RITs)

70 There have been three Fantastic Four movies and none of them have been box office champs. One of them, the most recent, was a disaster.

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Because it sucked! The FF were my favorites back when I was a kid.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 04:12 PM (+y/Ru)

I liked the first one.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 04:14 PM (c6UIl)

71 54 Next- Disney makes Mickey Mouse a trannie.
Posted by: Marcus T, Historian at June 12, 2018 04:12 PM (VpIIl)

Well, that voice....

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 12, 2018 04:14 PM (7UW64)

72 Doesn't Disney own 60% or so of media?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 12, 2018 04:15 PM (VgKNm)

73 There have been three Fantastic Four movies and none of them have been box office champs. One of them, the most recent, was a disaster.

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Because it sucked! The FF were my favorites back when I was a kid.



I will watch any movie that casts Jessica Alba's ass in it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:15 PM (yQpMk)

74 Wonder Woman was a feminist movie that liked men.

There were some anti-male cracks in there and the portrayal of how women were treated in WW2 England was pretty insulting to history, but overall yeah the tone was just upbeat and Wondy seemed to be having lots of fun doing good deeds.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:15 PM (39g3+)

75 >>This post is about Disney -- the most left-leaning and powerful media corporation in the world -- possibly facing a reckoning.




Hoisted on their own SJW petard.

It is glorious!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 04:15 PM (W+vEI)

76 Just saw a commercial for Ant Man and the Wasp. Looks like a blockbuster!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 04:16 PM (+y/Ru)

77 Nobody wants to see a superhero they know morph into a different race or gender. After awhile, it's insulting. Like affirmative action for superheros or something.
At least create a new character that has some new, unique appeal and skip the demographics crap.

Posted by: Marcus T, Historian at June 12, 2018 04:16 PM (VpIIl)

78 Next- Disney makes Mickey Mouse a trannie.


Posted by: Marcus T, Historian at June 12, 2018 04:12 PM (VpIIl)

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Kim Jong Un with a Mickey hat:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/nfksd2y

Posted by: RioBravo at June 12, 2018 04:16 PM (5NMZN)

79 "There were some anti-male cracks in there and the portrayal of how women were treated in WW2 England"

Again, it was World War One.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:16 PM (8rNrN)

80 Funny part? It wasn't that bad. Arguably just as good as the recent ones, and helped because the actors were nobodies and actually trying to act for the role and not just cash the paycheck because of their name.

I dunno, I kind of detested it. Over half the movie eaten up in meandering origin story, constant Idiot Plot and evil deus ex machina, ever-present darkness, an antagonism plot that made no sense, and more similarity to Val Kilmer's Red Planet than a superhero movie - in a bad way.

Posted by: Sporkatus at June 12, 2018 04:16 PM (HtLSE)

81 >>>77 Just saw a commercial for Ant Man and the Wasp. Looks like a blockbuster!


yeah i'm a fan of that particular series.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:16 PM (8rNrN)

82 40 I wonder if a "true to the comics" Fantastic Four origin movie featuring the Mole Man (lol) rather than the iconic Dr Doom would be any worse than the crapfests they've produced so far. Also, the most recent reboot was actually the 4th FF movie, there was one I'm the 80s or something that was so bad i think all the copies were burned.

Posted by: mugiwara

I told you it was an accident!

Posted by: Johnny Storm at June 12, 2018 04:16 PM (IeDO8)

83 Maus, say "Cheez!"

Posted by: rainier luftwaffe wolfcastle at June 12, 2018 04:17 PM (Evws/)

84 Hoisted on their own SJW petard retard.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 04:17 PM (+y/Ru)

85 ehh, the anti male cracks came from the Amazons, and I just wrote those characters off as ignorant bigots. some jokes were at their expense. they weren't the focus of the movie.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 04:17 PM (1qOto)

86 Wow, I had no idea you could barbeque them. Makes them almost useful. Almost.

Sure, use a good rub. And toes make a great side.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 12, 2018 04:17 PM (xBSm0)

87 Why not Mickey as a trannie? Goofy is a dog and he bangs a cow.

Shits all messed up.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 12, 2018 04:17 PM (KnK6d)

88 IT seems inexplicable to me that these assholes care more about pushing their SJW swill than they do about making money. ESpecially since the end game of the SJWs is the end of the capitalist system and of corporations like Disney. ARe these studio heads really True Believers or just craven cowards who get weak in the knees everytime a SJW shakes a fist at them?

I just read the sidebar story about Perv DeNiro. HOw sweet that this is coming out right after his Tony Award tantrum.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at June 12, 2018 04:17 PM (jGiDM)

89 66 I know: Weasel Woman, the origin story of Valerie Jarrett.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 04:14 PM (1qOto)
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Ahem.

Posted by: Weasel at June 12, 2018 04:17 PM (MVjcR)

90 49
I kind of liked Doctor Strange, even though it was Benedict Cumberbund.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at June 12, 2018 04:12 PM (RD7QR)


I liked Dr Strange the Movie, and I really like the repartee of Strange and Stark in Infinity Wars. I can accept Cumberbatch in that role.

Can't really think of a fellow with the charisma to pull off Stark after Downy, though.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 12, 2018 04:17 PM (ymnmz)

91 I'm willing to to see the Infinity movie and sequel as it seems to be closing an arc that started with Iron Man. I have fond memories of watching Iron Man WAY back at a drive in theater with other deplorables recapturing a part of America that I had been missing out on, but I'm ready to be done with the whole Marvel movies after Infinity. There is no way they're not going to go full SJW retard once the arcs of all the A-list characters are finished.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 04:17 PM (+dsLj)

92 Nobody wants to see a superhero they know morph into a different race or gender.


Unless that is their actual Super Power.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:17 PM (yQpMk)

93 I would like it if elected Republicans were just more brazen about going after companies that clearly want to destroy them.

Disney is a great example, reform copyright law and these companies would literally get cut in half over night.

Glenn Reynolds has a whole meme about going after Hollywoods tax protection just to watch them squeal.

Posted by: Maritime at June 12, 2018 04:17 PM (lKmt3)

94 I guess Disney believes audiences are a public utility

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:17 PM (FOPyv)

95 I think superhero fatigue is greatly overstated but I will agree that the initial wonder and joy at seeing this stuff finally done well on screen has worn off, so the films have to be good in their own right to be enjoyed. They can't just be neat looking and "Yay they did Spider-Man right!" they have to actually be good film making. Marvel has done pretty well with that so far, and when its been meh filmmaking, they've managed to turn it into a social awareness cultural event (Black Panther).

How long they pull this off remains to be seen but I have a sinking feeling that Captain Marvel is going to be Soy Justice Warrior time. They mostly managed to avoid that with Black Panther but I could feel them straining at the leash.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:17 PM (39g3+)

96 "There were some anti-male cracks in there and the portrayal of how women were treated in WW2 England"



Smart military blogs know that Ludendorff was a WWI German general. Loose shit, people.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 04:18 PM (Boy/L)

97 These new female superheros - they'll have to be careful not to make getting them poured into their costume their super ability.

So we can expect cardboard box uniforms, right?

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 12, 2018 04:18 PM (37IEG)

98 Next, Disney creates new characters who have the superpower to kill their audience.
Oh, wait.

Posted by: Marcus T, Historian at June 12, 2018 04:18 PM (VpIIl)

99 When you position yourself as a de facto political organization, you should be treated as such.

So, fleeing to exile in terror from the hordes of

racist, sexist manbabies who are also alt-right Nazis.

or just down a few billion$ of market cap.

Posted by: DaveA at June 12, 2018 04:18 PM (FhXTo)

100 I have a stack of books to read and football is four months off. If I can stop looking at tentacle pron I could be a literate contender.

Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 04:11 PM (2LelM)

I hear you brother!

Posted by: Kurt Eichenwald at June 12, 2018 04:18 PM (RbV5J)

101 20 At what point does Hollyweird and/or Disney decide that the people who pay to see movies are adults, and would prefer something somewhat adult to view, preferably something new and different, or at least entertaining?

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 12, 2018 04:05 PM (7UW64)
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Is that true, that the movie audience consists of adults?

I was under the impression that the people going to movies today were either adolescent males (w/ or w/o dates) and families with little children.

I dunno ---but for sure there's not much of anything out there to lure adults (w/o kids) into the theater.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 12, 2018 04:18 PM (0jtPF)

102 My favorite super hero movie was Kick Ass.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 04:18 PM (c6UIl)

103 I thought globohomohollywood had tons of money to throw away.

they just *poof* offed a number one sitcom.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:19 PM (FOPyv)

104 Why not do the whole fucking shebang in CGI? Those characters and actors never age, nor do they bitch about their treatment by the studio.


If the fastfood industry can replace $15 / hr aspiring crybabies with robots, the entertainment industry can replace millionaire crybabies with pixels.

Posted by: Fritz at June 12, 2018 04:19 PM (J7XgW)

105 SJW's are like commies.

Nothing is ever their fault.

When SJW crapola fails, and fails bigly, it is always the fault of Nazis or men or white folks or a general lack of zeal for perfect principles.

When commies fail, it isn't communism, but a lack of zeal for communism.

Never the fault of "social justice" or "communism," per se.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 12, 2018 04:19 PM (7UW64)

106 Favorite super hero?

Chuck Norris.

Posted by: Weasel at June 12, 2018 04:19 PM (MVjcR)

107 how women were treated in WW2 England"

Again, it was World War One.

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WWII! Another sequel worse than the original.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 04:19 PM (+y/Ru)

108 Again, it was World War One.

Right, sorry but still way too overblown for the era. Women were not treated with outright hatred and contempt by men in power. There were women in power, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:19 PM (39g3+)

109 "Recasting them may work. Bruce Banner has been played by three different actors and no one seems to care. Peter Parker too."


I cared. Edward Norton was superior to Mark Ruffalo in every possiuble way. The switch was noitecable and terrible.

Just the opposite with Peter Parker as Tom Holland was a major upgrade over whiny, emo Andrew Garfield (Toby Maguire got old and fat).

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 12, 2018 04:19 PM (OD2ni)

110 Holy shit. How did I forget about Gamergate? It had the virtuous effect of making the gaming press look like a gaggle of retards, marking them as SJWs -and- corporate shills. But a stupid indie "developer" whoring herself out for positive press is a lot less scandalous than senior national security personnel leaking stories to the whores they bang at the New York Times!

I don't know who on Earth is desperate enough to bang Anita Fuckeesian, but it's the only explanation for her astroturfed success.

Posted by: trev006 at June 12, 2018 04:19 PM (X2App)

111 If the fastfood industry can replace $15 / hr aspiring crybabies with robots, the entertainment industry can replace millionaire crybabies with pixels.

Don't think for a minute that this isn't coming.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 04:19 PM (Boy/L)

112 I don't get some of you guys. I really don't.
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Ace we're peculiar.

Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 04:20 PM (2LelM)

113 My favorite super hero movie was Kick Ass.


Loved it. The sequel not so much.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:20 PM (yQpMk)

114 Is that true, that the movie audience consists of adults?

I was under the impression that the people going to movies today were either adolescent males (w/ or w/o dates) and families with little children.

I dunno ---but for sure there's not much of anything out there to lure adults (w/o kids) into the theater.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 12, 2018 04:18 PM (0jtPF)

The dollars come from employed adults. That was my point.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 12, 2018 04:20 PM (7UW64)

115 Why not do the whole fucking shebang in CGI? Those characters and actors never age, nor do they bitch about their treatment by the studio.

This is where I yet again say there needs to be a remake of Looker.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:20 PM (39g3+)

116 Fantastic Four was poop on 4 levels.

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 04:20 PM (+lOpA)

117 There is no way they're not going to go full SJW retard once the arcs of all the A-list characters are finished.

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And I can tell it's already starting, like with Spider-Man homecoming retconning MJ from a stacked redhead that could turn the gayest of gaying gays straight into a potty-mouthed ugly ass hispanic girl who likes to give everyone the finger because culture and diversity.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 04:20 PM (+dsLj)

118 Ace, "Maritime"up-thread made a good point, that the people who make these decisions are quite well insulated financially from the consequences of alienating the very people who buy the tickets.

There is so much churn in their ranks that they can flit from studio to studio, gradually demeaning and cheapening the franchises, and they will still get their private jets and villas on the Amalfi coast.

I think that it is entirely possible that you will get your wish; that Disney will eventually fail, and sell off its parts to the highest bidders.

But that is going to take a very long time, and they will have abundant opportunity to do real damage to our culture.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 12, 2018 04:20 PM (wYseH)

119 http://bit.ly/2JzBvcA
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Avenatti: The Russians Are After Me! | The Daily Caller

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 12, 2018 04:20 PM (y3aQB)

120 Margarita: A Quiet Place

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 04:20 PM (1qOto)

121 so it is amusing to see that HR leftwing culture has creeped into the profit centers and now they think they can shame people into buying their products.

it's as if, just because HR at a large company can fire you for wearing a MAGA hat, they think they can summon you to purchase their hate filled lefty garbage.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:21 PM (FOPyv)

122 113 I don't get some of you guys. I really don't.
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Ace we're peculiar.
Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 04:20 PM (2LelM)

Think it through. You belong to this little club. That's says a lot. About the club, and about the members.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 12, 2018 04:21 PM (7UW64)

123 There were women in power, too.

Queen Victoria anyone?

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 12, 2018 04:21 PM (kUmUV)

124
Puppet Show

And

Star Wars

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 12, 2018 04:21 PM (gC2IV)

125 >>Ace we're peculiar.

*ponders "peculiar institution" joke*

Posted by: Sporkatus at June 12, 2018 04:21 PM (HtLSE)

126 Avenatti: The Russians Are After Me!

Oh, FFS.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 04:21 PM (Boy/L)

127 There is some urban legend that Disney/Marvel/Star Wars engages in payola of critics and I have to agree I do think there is something there.

Supposedly it's done in subtle ways like cutting off access to "bad" critics, but I have never understood how all of those movies routinely get rated so highly.

Almost every movie averages close to 90% on aggregators like Rotten Tomatoes.

Posted by: Maritime at June 12, 2018 04:21 PM (lKmt3)

128 >>>I think superhero fatigue is greatly overstated but I will agree that the initial wonder and joy at seeing this stuff finally done well on screen has worn off, so the films have to be good in their own right to be enjoyed. They can't just be neat looking and "Yay they did Spider-Man right!" they have to actually be good film making. Marvel has done pretty well with that so far, and when its been meh filmmaking, they've managed to turn it into a social awareness cultural event (Black Panther).

yeah, I think there's going to be a massive drop-off in interest after Infinity War 2, for this reason. The people rooting for this to happen (as I once did) will no longer have much to root for, and each film will be judged as a film, not as a gamble we're hoping will pay off.

Movies like Dr. Strange are meh and really point up the fundamental repetitive emptiness of these movies. Was it an okay time-waster? Sure. but nothing to get excited about. Just a popcorn flick like any other.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:21 PM (8rNrN)

129 111 Holy shit. How did I forget about Gamergate? It had the virtuous effect of making the gaming press look like a gaggle of retards, marking them as SJWs -and- corporate shills. But a stupid indie "developer" whoring herself out for positive press is a lot less scandalous than senior national security personnel leaking stories to the whores they bang at the New York Times!

I don't know who on Earth is desperate enough to bang Anita Fuckeesian, but it's the only explanation for her astroturfed success.
Posted by: trev006 at June 12, 2018 04:19 PM (X2App)


It basically completely dropped off the radar once Milo was made persona-non-grata.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 04:22 PM (WDCYi)

130 The only reintroduction of Iron Man I would watch is if he becomes a BBQ Pitmaster whose new superpower is he uses his costume flames for a unique smokey taste.

Posted by: Marcus T, Historian at June 12, 2018 04:22 PM (VpIIl)

131 "And I can tell it's already starting, like with Spider-Man homecoming retconning MJ from a stacked redhead that could turn the gayest of gaying gays straight into a potty-mouthed ugly ass hispanic girl who likes to give everyone the finger because culture and diversity."

right?

You, consumer, will find Zendaya to be attractive and believe that Peter Parker would be tongue tied around her. Also, she's a super smart nerd who probably helps spiderman fight crime.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:22 PM (FOPyv)

132 These new female superheros - they'll have to be careful not to make getting them poured into their costume their super ability.

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Blubberbabe! Fighting sexism everywhere!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 04:22 PM (+y/Ru)

133 Kirsten Dundst had magnificent funbags.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 12, 2018 04:22 PM (KnK6d)

134 "77 Just saw a commercial for Ant Man and the Wasp. Looks like a blockbuster!


yeah i'm a fan of that particular series.
Posted by: ace"


Me too. Paul Rudd is perfect in that role. Even the few minutes he had in Civil War were great.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 12, 2018 04:22 PM (OD2ni)

135 My favorite super hero movie was Kick Ass.


Loved it. The sequel not so much.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:20 PM (yQpMk)

I don't know if making a good sequel was even possible.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 04:23 PM (c6UIl)

136 While the left kills everything it touches, and will certainly be the death of the comics and Marvel movies, the real Disney problem is they bought universes that will inevitably collapse into black holes. Can't get my wife to go to any more super hero movies, and I'm increasingly unenthusiastic. Decline in the genre is inevitable. History will look back on all of the super hero, vampire, zombie, wearwolf, magic movies of the era and ask, "Why did they spend all of their time and creativity on things that don't exist?"

Posted by: IanDeal at June 12, 2018 04:23 PM (5mrLG)

137 the prequel, the Franco Prussian War, was a guilty pleasure. Napoleon III getting his ass handed to him

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 04:23 PM (1qOto)

138 Bluebell: Jeff A. Dove, Jr. (unopposed, no primary held)

Posted by: Jean at June 12, 2018 04:23 PM (MS0+a)

139 What we need is another Tremors movie. That shit is art.

Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 04:23 PM (2LelM)

140 I have made my entrance.


Hollywood, the new nemesis as arrived.

Posted by: Ava Cado at June 12, 2018 04:23 PM (GYX1g)

141 "he fundamental repetitive emptiness of these movies"

Didn't Cracked have an article about how every action movie for 2 years had a great alien ship sucking everything towards it scene because the CGI software came out with a new, cheap blur feature?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:24 PM (FOPyv)

142 Why not do the whole fucking shebang in CGI?

I initially read that as "shelving".

Posted by: rickl at June 12, 2018 04:24 PM (xjiRE)

143 If all you can see here is "comic books," then might I suggest you read more carefully.
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This +1.

In America, our cultural elite is more powerful than our politicians by a long shot. Smashing the media elite and replacing their twisted view of the world with that of the common decent people is a more critical battle than any election.

And, if we win, things like GamerGate will be remembered as momentous events.

It's not about whether you like superhero comics or video games (I don't).

Your kids do.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 04:24 PM (AzW6q)

144 Robert Downey jr is in his 50s

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I thought he was 29?

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 04:24 PM (+dsLj)

145 What we need is another Tremors movie.

Didn't someone say that Bacon is rebooting it as a series on one of the streaming services?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 04:24 PM (Boy/L)

146 >>IT seems inexplicable to me that these assholes care more about pushing their SJW swill than they do about making money.



They do not care about their current organization. They are there to convert it into an SJW-promoting entity or kill it, it doesn't matter which. The point is to destroy what it was so that we are deprived of it. See: the NFL.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 04:24 PM (W+vEI)

147 Huh.

Wonder how long it'll take for some new tales to emerge from Hollywood?

*settles in for thin man marathon*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 12, 2018 04:24 PM (7LY+6)

148 Who is really interested in female super-heroes anyway?
Neither of my daughters go to these movies and I don't think their friends do either. (Well, I don't THINK so. I'll have to ask.)

So all of the SJW stuff is mostly geared toward males ....maybe. Feeding them soy? Or just trolling 'em.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 12, 2018 04:24 PM (0jtPF)

149 Jeremy also compares the first week DVD/Blu-Ray sales of The Force Awakens to The Last Jedi. The Last Jedi only sold 56% of the DVDs/Blu-Rays The Force Awakens during its first week, 3,420,000 for TFA vs. 1,940,000 (rounded to the nearest thousand). That's $40,000,000 in lost revenue for first-week sales, comparing the two films.
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I am confused. Per this, TLJ sold 1,480,000 fewer units than TFA (3,420,000-1,940,000). This represented, per the above, a $40,000,000 revenue difference after rounding.

That means that Disney's revenue is around $27 per *unit* sold:
40,000,000/1,480,000=27.027

This doesn't seem right. If I go over to Amazon, the *most* I can spend on TLJ (4k with all the extras) is $23. Sales being off that much between episodes is surely a disaster given how much long-term revenue is tied up in home video sales, but $40 million doesn't seem reasonable.

Am I misinterpreting this?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 12, 2018 04:24 PM (I2dne)

150 140
What we need is another Tremors movie. That shit is art.

Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 04:23 PM (2LelM)
How can you not like Rebba McEntire as a Barrett packing mama?

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 12, 2018 04:25 PM (37IEG)

151 Why not do the whole fucking shebang in CGI? Those characters and actors never age, nor do they bitch about their treatment by the studio.

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We're probably not far away. Look at dad bod Tom Cruise in before and after old man filters.

Look at the black panther costume being a boring plain black leotard and all the superhero stuff being added in the studio. Everything. From black body stocking to full on superhero costume, all after the fact.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 12, 2018 04:25 PM (VgKNm)

152 What we need is another Tremors movie. That shit is art.
Posted by: Gumby

_________

The first one really was a masterpiece

Posted by: Maritime at June 12, 2018 04:25 PM (lKmt3)

153 Jean, there is a primary for Senate! Go!

Corey Stewart, Nick Freitas, and the guy who ran for Lt. Gov.

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 04:25 PM (oG1/h)

154 Kirsten Dundst had magnificent funbags.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 12, 2018 04:22 PM (KnK6d)

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So did Mimi Rogers in her day.

Mmmmmmm.....Mimi Rogers....brb....

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 12, 2018 04:26 PM (I16G8)

155 >>> There is some urban legend that Disney/Marvel/Star Wars engages in payola of critics and I have to agree I do think there is something there.

Supposedly it's done in subtle ways like cutting off access to "bad" critics, but I have never understood how all of those movies routinely get rated so highly.

...

yeah, well there are a lot of "Geek Culture" youtubers whose very lifeblood *depends* on advanced screenings to get clicks, so you barely even have to mention that if you're not nice to Disney, Disney might not be so nice to you.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:26 PM (8rNrN)

156 Who is really interested in female super-heroes anyway?

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I'm still extremely interested in wonder woman's mom.

Also milf island.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 12, 2018 04:26 PM (VgKNm)

157 Avenatti: The Russians Are After Me!

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I found this amusing, too. Claire McCaskill gets caught in a big, fat ole lie!

https://bit.ly/2JBGyFo

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 04:26 PM (+y/Ru)

158 They've literally sucked the fun out of almost any entertainment.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at June 12, 2018 04:27 PM (rdl6o)

159 149 Who is really interested in female super-heroes anyway?
Neither of my daughters go to these movies and I don't think their friends do either. (Well, I don't THINK so. I'll have to ask.)

So all of the SJW stuff is mostly geared toward males ....maybe. Feeding them soy? Or just trolling 'em.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 12, 2018 04:24 PM (0jtPF)

My son digs superhero movies. He's 12. His given name is Thor. I can't imagine he will find anything scintillating about these movies in, say, 6 more years.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 12, 2018 04:27 PM (7UW64)

160 "Robert Downey jr is in his 50s"


My teenage son was watching Weird Science this past weekend and I pointed out to him that one of the bullies is Tony Stark he was quite shocked.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 12, 2018 04:27 PM (OD2ni)

161 156 Kirsten Dundst had magnificent funbags.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 12, 2018 04:22 PM (KnK6d)

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repetitive person:

jennifer lawerence gave it up for Red Sparrow and she's got fantastic body. also, she went blonde like tatiania from Archer and I love her now.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:27 PM (FOPyv)

162 Puppet Show

And

Star Wars
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 12, 2018 04:21 PM (gC2IV)


Tell me about it.

Posted by: Nigel Tufnel at June 12, 2018 04:27 PM (Z48ZB)

163 What we need is another Tremors movie. That shit is art.


They just release a new one. #8

Tremors: A Cold Day in Hell (201

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:27 PM (yQpMk)

164 If all you can see here is "comic books," then might I suggest you read more carefully.

I don't get some of you guys. I really don't.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:14 PM (8rNrN)

Otherwise, I would give a shit about comic books or the latest movie, for that matter.

But as some guy said, politics is downstream of culture.

BUT, they can keep f**king that chicken. Rush reported today that the DNC is consulting Hollywood for GOTV strategies. Surprised they didn't call the NFL.

Posted by: golfman at June 12, 2018 04:27 PM (If3tB)

165
153 What we need is another Tremors movie. That shit is art.
Posted by: Gumby

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The first one really was a masterpiece
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Yes. I always wondered if they got the idea from Dune.

Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 04:27 PM (2LelM)

166 A big change is that a lot of YouTubers have created a different model, where you can make money by MOCKING Disney and Star Wars, instead of endlessly shilling for them, and that has created room for honesty among some YouTubers who were (probably) not really bought or anything but felt they had to give Disney positive reviews to keep their own fanbase happy.

Now that's kind of reversed. Even the biggest shills are calling for Kathleen Kennedy to be fired.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:28 PM (8rNrN)

167 I want a well done Solomon Kane series

Posted by: Jean at June 12, 2018 04:28 PM (MS0+a)

168 "Avenatti: The Russians Are After Me!"


I would not complain if it was Anna Chapman.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 12, 2018 04:28 PM (OD2ni)

169 Favorite super hero? Why the Golden Scalp Weasel of course. He makes liberal heads explode with a single tweet.

Posted by: Bosk at June 12, 2018 04:28 PM (fjMEv)

170 Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 04:14 PM (W+vEI)

Agreed. And I *like* super hero movies. I was always a casual fan of Star Wars and Star Trek as well. No really new stories from Marvel for several years, and no good stories for years before that, meant the movies were going to run out if content soon anyway.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 12, 2018 04:28 PM (rp9xB)

171 consider red sparrow and atomic blonde...and maybe Salt.

Folks don't mind hot female leads using sexuality as their super power.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:28 PM (FOPyv)

172 What we need is another Tremors movie. That shit is art.
Posted by: Gumby

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The first one really was a masterpiece

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Finest giant man-eating worm from outer space movie ever made.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 04:28 PM (+y/Ru)

173 171. Genghis Don.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Ask Me About SMR & Ancient Slavonaut Theory at June 12, 2018 04:29 PM (fA1SL)

174 Avenge me!!!

Posted by: wolverine at June 12, 2018 04:29 PM (Evws/)

175 "My teenage son was watching Weird Science this past weekend"

I hope you have the house well stocked in Kleenex. just saying.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 04:29 PM (1qOto)

176 Who is really interested in female super-heroes anyway?
Neither of my daughters go to these movies and I don't think their friends do either. (Well, I don't THINK so. I'll have to ask.)

So all of the SJW stuff is mostly geared toward males ....maybe. Feeding them soy? Or just trolling 'em.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille

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It's amusing to me that female empowerment now is just imitating males even when females aren't interested in this stuff.

My daughters don't give two shits about Star Wars or anything Marvel. Yet they are now the target market.

I really do believe most of this is exactly what Colbert was "spoofing", it's about pissing off the right people. Movies are now a form of trolling.

Posted by: Maritime at June 12, 2018 04:29 PM (lKmt3)

177 wait ... that's only the sixth movie in the Tremors franchise.


Only Michael Gross is left from the original cast.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:29 PM (yQpMk)

178 But Tremors was problematic. We need to gay that shit up. Maybe some muslims too.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:29 PM (FOPyv)

179 >>>This doesn't seem right. If I go over to Amazon, the *most* I can spend on TLJ (4k with all the extras) is $23. Sales being off that much between episodes is surely a disaster given how much long-term revenue is tied up in home video sales, but $40 million doesn't seem reasonable.

Am I misinterpreting this?

...

I don't know. I didn't question the math offered.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:29 PM (8rNrN)

180 I think some superhero characters can be fungible - like Green Lantern, for example. (Yes horrible movie and the but in the Deadpool ending was hilarious!)

All you have to be is someone who got the ring. Bingo, bango, you are Green Lantern. It would even work for women.

Others, not so much. A Hispanic Thor? It isn't just the hammer, it is a whole mythos.



Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 04:30 PM (Z5y53)

181 "My daughters don't give two shits about Star Wars or anything Marvel. Yet they are now the target market. "

what marketing genius came up with THAT idea.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:30 PM (FOPyv)

182 Not "Blo Hurk"!
Blo Hurk!

Posted by: Bro Hulk at June 12, 2018 04:30 PM (Evws/)

183 Favorite super hero? Why the Golden Scalp Weasel of course. He makes liberal heads explode with a single tweet.

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I prefer Trumbo: First Tweet

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 04:30 PM (+dsLj)

184 Don't forget Sad Puppies!

>>> I vote for ROM SpaceKnight and I'm sorry, you should be able to do Daredevil on the big screen, at least Frank Miller Daredevil.

I think the rights to ROM are problematic, I forgot the specifics. ROM's enemies were like Cthulu style nightmare fuel, so that would be cool.

Posted by: Max Power at June 12, 2018 04:30 PM (q177U)

185 Finest giant man-eating worm from outer space movie ever made.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks



Wait. Wut?
Posted by: Dune

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 04:30 PM (5RITs)

186 I do not understand the complaint that Hollywood has no fresh ideas

AND

Complaining about Superhero films.

Comic book movies are the only fresh idea that has come out of Hollywood for 30+ years. Yeah, there's kind of a glut now like Westerns in the 50's and 60's but at least its not another remake of a buddy cop movie or a 80s blockbuster. And the sequels aren't really sequels in the sense that Meet the Fockers 2 is

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:30 PM (39g3+)

187 I'm trying to figure a route home from the Cape that makes sense and allows for a stop in Red Bank, NJ to go to Jay and Silent Bob's Secret Stash. My brother was always much more of a comic book guy than I was, and I figure I can grab him a nice gift. I think his main favorites were "Conan" (can't blame him for that, Conan is awesome) and the X-Men (I was always kind of meh on the X-Men. Cyclops is a choad, they were always having little soap opera dramas, and Professor X seemed liked the kind of guy who'd show up on "To Catch A Predator", but to each his own). For myself, I might grab a key Daredevil or Sgt. Rock, just because.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 12, 2018 04:30 PM (l14X/)

188 If all you can see here is "comic books," then might I suggest you read more carefully.

I don't get some of you guys. I really don't.

Posted by: ace

Ace, I never cared for comic books and I care even less about movies about comic books.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 04:30 PM (Bdeb0)

189 I still say that Jonny Quest would make a great movie if Hollywood wouldn't screw the pooch.

Posted by: golfman at June 12, 2018 04:31 PM (If3tB)

190 I hear The Shadow is ready for an MCU type roll out.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:31 PM (FOPyv)

191 EA/DICE is doing the same SJW BS with Battlefield V. They spouted all the buzzwords like "immersive" for a return to a WW2 game, then the trailer features a female front line soldier with a prosthetic arm and face paint no-scoping Germans and crushing them with a spiked cricket bat.

Posted by: Mainah at June 12, 2018 04:31 PM (9tLFe)

192 it's a movie review...

Posted by: Erwin Rommel at June 12, 2018 04:31 PM (8D42x)

193 "yeah, well there are a lot of "Geek Culture" youtubers whose very lifeblood *depends* on advanced screenings to get clicks, so you barely even have to mention that if you're not nice to Disney, Disney might not be so nice to you.

Posted by: ace"


When my kids were youunger, we went to Disney World about 5 years in a row. I discovered there are a lot of "mommy bloggers" whose whole extence is to blow smoke up Disney's ass in exchange for getting perks when they visit nwith their families.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 12, 2018 04:31 PM (OD2ni)

194

EM TREK WARS STAR FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at June 12, 2018 04:31 PM (mPeei)

195 121 Margarita: A Quiet Place
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 04:20 PM (1qOto)
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Hmmm. That one does look interesting.
And it's actually showing at a theater that's only an hour or so away.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 12, 2018 04:32 PM (0jtPF)

196 Michael Gross has been in every Tremors movie, and Reba in only one.

It's just not right.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:32 PM (yQpMk)

197 I still say that Jonny Quest would make a great movie if Hollywood wouldn't screw the pooch.
Posted by: golfman

Second that.

Posted by: Bandit at June 12, 2018 04:32 PM (GYX1g)

198 Survivor (the reality TV show) in contrast, listens closely to its core audience. Making them happy at the expense of possible outreach to any new casuals. It's also one of the reason they are still around and going strong - while, not growing, they aren't losing any audience. They make recommended and new changes every season and listen to the feedback.

Posted by: Memories at June 12, 2018 04:32 PM (mwcEF)

199 If Marvel goes the SJW route with their movies, I'm done with them.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 12, 2018 04:32 PM (7TeOH)

200 Also, now Hollywood has to compete with Netflix et al.

I watched the penis fest that was Altered Carbon until the ... yadda yadda flash back flash back no real plot got to me.

That's about 11 hours of movie time to explore. gone.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:32 PM (FOPyv)

201 The Stray Voltage story they've decided on is that Solo and The Last Jedi only failed because Star Wars fans are all racist, sexist manbabies who are also alt-right Nazis.
...
The argument seemed to be that gamers, being dead and all, and also being racist, sexist manbabies, should be abandoned as core audience sector in favor of just trying to sell games to Filthy Casuals.


This is why we need open borders. So we can continue to write dreck and attract a new audience to replace the deplorable old audience. Similar to the concept of the Democrats replacing their old voter base.

Posted by: Disney at June 12, 2018 04:33 PM (/qEW2)

202 When did B serials become the main event?

Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 04:33 PM (2LelM)

203 >>Who is really interested in female super-heroes anyway?

My niece loves the Star Wars stuff, and is naturally excited about all the new yay-women! characters. She's also into video games and LARPing.

Not a superhero, but Buffy the Vampire Slayer was a big thing for girls when it was on tv. These studios seem to have skipped the "write an interesting story with complex characters" part and just decided: Mary Sue = Grrrl Power!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 04:33 PM (W+vEI)

204 Corey Stewart, Nick Freitas, and the guy who ran for Lt. Gov.

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 04:25 PM (oG1/h)


Go.

And vote for Stewart.

Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 04:33 PM (Z5y53)

205 Done well, a Doc Savage franchise would be the shits.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:33 PM (yQpMk)

206 Second that.
Posted by: Bandit at June 12, 2018 04:32 PM (GYX1g)

*clap

Posted by: golfman at June 12, 2018 04:33 PM (If3tB)

207 >>"My teenage son was watching Weird Science this past weekend"


Mmmmm...Kelly Brock.

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 04:33 PM (ReI7m)

208 I think Star Wars has just run it's course, not sure if it has anything to do with the SJWs.

Posted by: Cm9000 at June 12, 2018 04:33 PM (yNlrm)

209 Ace, I never cared for comic books and I care even less about movies about comic books.
Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 04:30 PM (Bdeb0)

It doesn't matter what you, in particular, care for or not. It matters how this stuff drives the culture. I think that may or may not have been Ace's point.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 12, 2018 04:33 PM (7UW64)

210 I think some superhero characters can be fungible - like Green Lantern, for example.

I agree, and Hal Jordan is a bore anyway so best to give someone else the ring. Iron Man, I can live with it being Iron Girl, because its about the suit. You just have to have a good story well told with entertaining acting to make it work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:33 PM (39g3+)

211 I prefer Trumbo: First Tweet
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 04:30 PM (+dsLj)
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LOL. When I first read that, I thought you were talking about Dalton Trumbo, who is perhaps the diametrically opposite human being to Trump.

Though he was a Hollywood Communist cultural fifth-columnist, so I guess he's still appropriate for Disney thread.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 04:34 PM (AzW6q)

212 There is some urban legend that Disney/Marvel/Star Wars engages in payola of critics and I have to agree I do think there is something there.
Posted by: Maritime at June 12, 2018 04:21 PM (lKmt3)

That's no urban legend. It's been going on for years. I'd bet the studios even give them a script to follow when writing the reviews.

Posted by: Basil Fawlty at June 12, 2018 04:34 PM (MX7xj)

213 I decided that TV and movies are taking far too much of my time, and will do something more constructive with my life that is healthier and more meaningful, which is why I am getting a Playstation VR.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 04:34 PM (+dsLj)

214 Off, Fawlty sock.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 12, 2018 04:34 PM (MX7xj)

215 >>Not a superhero, but Buffy the Vampire Slayer was a big thing for girls


I thought that was for gay guys? You know, like fans of The Cure?

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 04:34 PM (ReI7m)

216
NFL: No one can destroy themselves faster than we can!

Disney: Hold our beer.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 12, 2018 04:34 PM (gC2IV)

217 My greatest disappointment as a kid and teen is that Hollywood could never make a proper Tarzan movie. They all sucked.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 04:34 PM (c6UIl)

218 >>>Me too. Paul Rudd is perfect in that role. Even the few minutes he had in Civil War were great.

I observed my boycott of the movie -- not because I don't like Paul Rudd or the idea, but because I hate Disney -- until it was on Netflix or something.

And I did want to see that movie. I had a feeling it would be fun and, get this, DIFFERENT, and it was. Well, different enough.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:34 PM (8rNrN)

219 And the sad part his how badly DC shit the bed with amazing sdouce material from Justice League. The Justice League pg-13 animated movies, which are on Hulu right now are great and enteratiing. Only SJWs/Feminsts could fuck up Justice League.

SMFH.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 12, 2018 04:34 PM (IdRpH)

220 I still say that Jonny Quest would make a great movie if Hollywood wouldn't screw the pooch.
Posted by: golfman

Second that.
Posted by: Bandit



Over/under on the dog getting it?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 04:34 PM (9uM86)

221 Heard that the toothless fuck that runs the DNC is going to Pervywood to get help for the fascist democrats running this November. When I see idiocy like this from Pervywood, I don't think the returns for Perez will be good.
How do we ever lose to people that are so obtuse?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 12, 2018 04:35 PM (pw+jk)

222 Consider me a filthy casual. I haven't cared about comic since Bugs Bunny went off the air on Saturday mornings. Saw maybe two Star Wars movies after the original and couldn't keep an interest.

Dirty, no good, stinkin' casual. And I'm okay with it.

Posted by: DanMan at June 12, 2018 04:35 PM (XTiHL)

223 Pretty sure Camera Hogg would love a remake of Glee.

Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 04:35 PM (2LelM)

224 Anyone else read "Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell"? It won the Hugo award, and was made into a seven part miniseries.

Magic returns to England in the Napoleonic era. Imagine a movie version or series on that!

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 12, 2018 04:35 PM (GYX1g)

225 speaking of Stewarts, they are excavating Glen Shiel 1719.

God save the King! *passes glass over water*

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 04:35 PM (1qOto)

226 LOL. When I first read that, I thought you were talking about Dalton Trumbo, who is perhaps the diametrically opposite human being to Trump.

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There's a YouTube meme of Trump being Rambo where he blows up Hillary not once but several times, just to be sure. The only thing better than that hilarity was Trump being John Wick and killing all the fake news people.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 04:36 PM (+dsLj)

227 I actually really liked Doctor Strange. I think Benedict Cumberbatch was perfect in that role. I wish they'd make a sequel or two.


Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 12, 2018 04:36 PM (oyCqX)

228 Probably just me, but I lost all interest in Star Wars decades ago. It's the same cartoon story with the same ending all the time. By its core values, it can never progress. Adding SJW garbage to the already heaping pile of sameness, just makes a bad situation worse. The Empire should kick serious ass for about a half dozen movies just for interest. But --no.
Speaking of SJW garbage, I HIGHLY recommend 'Cobra Kai' on YouTube Premium (or elsewhere iykwim). It's the antidote for every pernicious variant of 'correctness'.

Posted by: dougf at June 12, 2018 04:36 PM (FRes4)

229 It doesn't matter what you, in particular, care for or not. It matters how this stuff drives the culture. I think that may or may not have been Ace's point.
Posted by: tcn in AK

If you allow it to influence you. You have to watch it to be influenced, you have to care about it to be influenced.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 04:36 PM (Bdeb0)

230 Not a superhero, but Buffy the Vampire Slayer was a big thing for girls


I thought that was for gay guys? You know, like fans of The Cure?
Posted by: garrett


At least their vampires didn't sparkle.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 04:36 PM (9uM86)

231 "Anyone else read "Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell"? It won the Hugo award, and was made into a seven part miniseries. "

that was a great series. I have not read it yet. I want more.

Reminded me of Going Postal..which really did about as much as could be done with the concept (i.e., not much), if I recall correctly.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:36 PM (FOPyv)

232 Think how terrifying this is:

They are willing to destroy icons - to make a point.

They are willing to ruin careers, including theirs, to make a point.

They are willing to ruin franchises to make a point.

They are willing to insult fans, to make a point.

They are willing to lose money, to make a point.

They are willing to wreck companies, to make a point.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at June 12, 2018 04:36 PM (fftfA)

233 When my kids were youunger, we went to Disney World about 5 years in a row. I discovered there are a lot of "mommy bloggers" whose whole extence is to blow smoke up Disney's ass in exchange for getting perks when they visit nwith their families.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 12, 2018 04:31 PM (OD2ni)

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A friend of mine just returned from a visit. $3k or so with his two kids. Said it was the worst vacation he'd ever been on. Hour waits for rides, lines for the princess photos, etc.

He told me it occurred to him that the big reason patents are taking their kids is because their parents took them because their parents took them.

I told him to start noticing how much Disney advertises on what you think are just TV shows. America's funniest videos is the absolute worst.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 12, 2018 04:36 PM (VgKNm)

234
But Tremors was problematic. We need to gay that shit up. Maybe some muslims too.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:29 PM (FOPyv)


They could make the worm look more like a penis.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 12, 2018 04:36 PM (10vO4)

235 203 Also, now Hollywood has to compete with Netflix et al.

I watched the penis fest that was Altered Carbon until the ... yadda yadda flash back flash back no real plot got to me.

That's about 11 hours of movie time to explore. gone.
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:32 PM (FOPyv)

Had the potential to be a great show, but DAMN was it terrible.

I haven't had a chance to watch the Captain Marvel video yet, but if that turns out to be true, it would follow Spiderman and Black Panther down the SJW trail, meaning I'm done with the MCU after Avengers 4.

Which would be my two favorite franchises, SW and MCU, killed within about a year. More time to go outside I guess.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 12, 2018 04:37 PM (72PAC)

236 >>>Ace, I never cared for comic books and I care even less about movies about comic books.

It's not what the fucking post is about.

I'm trashing the movies and talking about Disney, the CORPORATION, which is a real thing and not a superhero character, possibly losing money.

But all some people can see is "comic books" and then they tell me they're too old for comic books.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:37 PM (8rNrN)

237 DC has a chance with a Joker origin story whose acouce material is very dark and real. I'm sure they will shit the bed as well.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 12, 2018 04:37 PM (IdRpH)

238 >> Probably just me, but I lost all interest in Star Wars decades ago.


Yeah, no offense to Ace but the first time I saw an Ewok I was like, 'This is gay.'.

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 04:37 PM (ReI7m)

239 Shorter version from Disney, the beatings will continue until our sales improve.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 12, 2018 04:37 PM (pw+jk)

240 220 My greatest disappointment as a kid and teen is that Hollywood could never make a proper Tarzan movie. They all sucked.
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Grew up on Johnny Whitesmueller Tarzan movies. Loved everyone of them. The problem with the franchise these days is finding enough savage Africans to feed to the crocs.

Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 04:37 PM (2LelM)

241 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:33 PM (39g3+)

For me, Iron Lady wouldn't work because it's about constructing the suit and not just about wearing it. Tony Stark's redneck constructed first suit was awesome .

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 04:37 PM (c6UIl)

242 I watched the penis fest that was Altered Carbon until the

I watched part of the first episode, and it lost me right away. So this dude just defrosted into the distant future... where they speak the same language and slang, and smoke cigarettes and have guns and almost no tech has changed... and instantly and perfectly can fit into the culture, down to what drink to order from a bar he's never been to???

I hear The Shadow is ready for an MCU type roll out.

I liked The Shadow movie, but their big mistake was putting him up against his arch enemy right away. Nobody knows who the Shadow is, you don't throw him up against someone who beats him up until you establish who he is and what he can do.

I mean, the first criminal he goes up against figures out where he is and shoots him. Really??

I liked the Phantom too. But again, really obscure property without enough setup.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:37 PM (39g3+)

243 This is like if I do a post about the NFL losing money due to the kneeling protest and then people come in and say, "I don't like this post, I don't follow sports."

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:37 PM (8rNrN)

244 206
My niece loves the Star Wars stuff, and is naturally excited about all the new yay-women! characters. She's also into video games and LARPing.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 04:33 PM (W+vEI)
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Hmmm. How old is she?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 12, 2018 04:38 PM (0jtPF)

245 My niece loves the Star Wars stuff, and is naturally excited about all the new yay-women! characters. She's also into video games and LARPing.

Not a superhero, but Buffy the Vampire Slayer was a big thing for girls when it was on tv. These studios seem to have skipped the "write an interesting story with complex characters" part and just decided: Mary Sue = Grrrl Power!!
Posted by: Lizzy

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I would still argue that's the exception and not the rule.

Just like there are definitely hard core sports fans that are chicks, but it tends to be overwhelmingly male.

And the movie studios strategy to this known dynamic is then to piss off as many "natural" fans as possible in order to chase these unicorns.

Because a female ticket sale is worth more than a male ticket sale. That's the New Math in Hollywood.

Posted by: Maritime at June 12, 2018 04:38 PM (lKmt3)

246 Ace, I never cared for comic books and I care even less about movies about comic books.
Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 04:30 PM (Bdeb0)

You don't have to care about either. It's assumed you care about our culture, and what drives it (or drives the changes TO it).
An analogy would be the car market. As though Ford decided its #1 top producer would no longer be a full sized pickup cause it caused global warming, and your response was, "Who cares, I don't like trucks".

Posted by: MarkY at June 12, 2018 04:38 PM (i022r)

247 You guys, though, just wait until they try to reboot Harry Potter...again.

There's a yawning vacuum for content. Content they can turn into culture war ammo.

Dumbledore's, like, gay. Ginny Weasly is a pink pussy hat, Harry potter is a anti-gun advocate...and on and on.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:38 PM (FOPyv)

248 >>>Yeah, no offense to Ace but the first time I saw an Ewok I was like, 'This is gay.'.


if ewoks are gay why are there so many of them?

#Logic

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:38 PM (8rNrN)

249 >>It's not what the fucking post is about.


How would anyone know that unless they actually read the thing?

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 04:38 PM (ReI7m)

250 ">>Not a superhero, but Buffy the Vampire Slayer was a big thing for girls

I thought that was for gay guys? You know, like fans of The Cure?"


I think it went that way later on. The first few seasons with Angel were really good. Plus, Sarah Michelle Gellar and Charisma Carpenter* were really hot.

*Mr. Feminist Joss Whedon destroyed her career for getting pregnant.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 12, 2018 04:38 PM (OD2ni)

251
241 >> Probably just me, but I lost all interest in Star Wars decades ago.


Yeah, no offense to Ace but the first time I saw an Ewok I was like, 'This is gay.'.
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Yep. That ruined it for me. The first two were okay - good. Then teddy bears with zippers in the back showed up living in trees. WTF?

Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 04:38 PM (2LelM)

252 Who here watches Gotham? I want to start but from what I have seen, it is kind of creepy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:38 PM (yQpMk)

253 200 I still say that Jonny Quest would make a great movie if Hollywood wouldn't screw the pooch.
Posted by: golfman

Second that.
Posted by: Bandit at June 12, 2018 04:32 PM (GYX1g)

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How does one un-screw a pooch? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: cornbred at June 12, 2018 04:39 PM (AjGiH)

254 >>if ewoks are gay why are there so many of them?


They multiply if you get them wet.

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 04:39 PM (ReI7m)

255 The only thing better than that hilarity was Trump being John Wick and killing all the fake news people.

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BTW, John Wick? That's a movie I want to see more of. Smart enough not to take itself seriously and yet with choreography that's eminently more plausible then seeing Black Widow (a girl without super powers mind you) in Marvel movies beating up 200 guys without breaking a sweat.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 04:39 PM (+dsLj)

256 I think some superhero characters can be fungible - like Green Lantern, for example.

I agree, and Hal Jordan is a bore anyway so best to give someone else the ring. Iron Man, I can live with it being Iron Girl, because its about the suit. You just have to have a good story well told with entertaining acting to make it work.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Remember the scene where Stark gives a crap ton of money to MIT students?

Imagine a next generation of well funded geniuses solving crime and defending Earth. it could be ensemble and have multiple characters, abilities and applications.

They can get saved by or help out the Avenger characters.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 12, 2018 04:39 PM (GYX1g)

257 I'm trashing the movies and talking about Disney, the CORPORATION, which
is a real thing and not a superhero character, possibly losing money.

Hey, we're doing our part.

Posted by: ESPN at June 12, 2018 04:39 PM (O5Q3r)

258 The Annihilation War story line, where the current team of Guardians of The Galaxy first crewed up, would be a good movie. A much different feel than the retro fun of the previous Guardians movies.

Posted by: josephistan at June 12, 2018 04:39 PM (7HtZB)

259 So the new plans will be to, make, for example, a movie about the D-Day invasion of Europe with the Allies portrayed by strong women, and the evil NAZIs portrayed by white english speaking males, that will appeal to the fan base audiences of Steel Magnolias and the Bridges of Madison County.

Genius! Genius!

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 12, 2018 04:39 PM (37IEG)

260 Off topic but it looks like the AT&T/Time-Warner merger just got approved without conditions.

Looks like Comcast is gonna go they with their bid on Fox.

Posted by: Robert at June 12, 2018 04:39 PM (Zogyx)

261 @5 - Talk about killing the Golden Goose.


*****


I'm not that up on my superheroes. What's his super power?

Posted by: Trudeau's Left Eyebrow at June 12, 2018 04:39 PM (m45I2)

262 Only 8 episodes left in GoT. Then what?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:40 PM (yQpMk)

263 220
My greatest disappointment as a kid and teen is that Hollywood could never make a proper Tarzan movie. They all sucked.





Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 04:34 PM (c6UIl)

I liked the original Johnny Weissmuller Tarzan movies. But when they replaced him with Les Barker they went to shit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 12, 2018 04:40 PM (mpXpK)

264 It's not what the fucking post is about.

I'm trashing the movies and talking about Disney, the CORPORATION, which is a real thing and not a superhero character, possibly losing money.

But all some people can see is "comic books" and then they tell me they're too old for comic books.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:37 PM (8rNrN)


May I suggest a post just about comics and video games and sci fi just to tick these people off even more and so they can see what a post just about that is? Cause I love some spiteful ace.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 12, 2018 04:40 PM (lKs2v)

265 And yeah, definitely reviewers are being paid off. Its very obvious that Rotten Tomatoes has been entirely coopted. Their treatment of Black Panther reviews was a little too blatant.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:40 PM (39g3+)

266 Yeah, no offense to Ace but the first time I saw an Ewok I was like, 'This is gay.'.
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Yep. That ruined it for me. The first two were okay - good. Then teddy bears with zippers in the back showed up living in trees. WTF?
Posted by: Gumby

He put them in a holiday special......WTF.....

Posted by: Santa at June 12, 2018 04:40 PM (GYX1g)

267 >>if ewoks are gay why are there so many of them?

>>#Logic

I'm running a Star Wars pen and paper game right now, and one of the players has an Ewok that has been mackin' on other sapients.

Lovin' knows no language barriers.

Posted by: Sporkatus at June 12, 2018 04:40 PM (HtLSE)

268 Think how terrifying this is:



They are willing to destroy icons - to make a point.



They are willing to ruin careers, including theirs, to make a point.



They are willing to ruin franchises to make a point.



They are willing to insult fans, to make a point.



They are willing to lose money, to make a point.



They are willing to wreck companies, to make a point.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at June 12, 2018 04:36 PM (fftfA)

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Yes it is. Now I know how being in Germany in the 30s must have felt.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 12, 2018 04:40 PM (pw+jk)

269 Had to look up what Khalisi meant.
Had to look up who Kathleen Kennedy is.
Thought I'd come in and snark but it's OT already.

Great.

1. Donald Trump is a genius.
2. Hillary will never be president.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (Vnlws)

270 I wonder if the Deep State is funding this crap that is failing Disney. The answer is obviously yes because only in communist/totalitarian societies is failure to profit rewarded biased on the propaganda it presents to the masses. It's almost as if our Betters and Overlords want to make this mandatory viewing or get labelled as a dissident like straight white men who won't bang traps and bears and other deviants.

Fuck Disney.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (IdRpH)

271 they did release the Joker origin story. Killing Joke.

they ruined Alan Moore's vision with a stupid slash fanfic of Batman / Oracle that looked like a 16 year old high school girl wrote it. Stick with the comic.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (1qOto)

272 246 This is like if I do a post about the NFL losing money due to the kneeling protest and then people come in and say, "I don't like this post, I don't follow sports."

Let's go CAPS!

Also, for all us 29 year old Gen-X'rs...go to Hulu and watch Smashing Pumpkins from last nights Fallon.

Holy Fucking Shit. The HGH is working, they whaled.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (FOPyv)

273 The smart liberals are sure Mueller is going to take Trump down. That is how deluded they are.
.

Posted by: Cm9000 at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (yNlrm)

274
First they came for the comic books and I did not speak because I don't like comic books.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (10vO4)

275 This post is about Disney -- the most left-leaning and powerful media corporation in the world -- possibly facing a reckoning.

Thing about Disney is that it is like the Hydra (no, not the one in the MCU). By my quick count they have Star Wars, Marvel, at least one of the computer animation studios, all their classic characters, classic movies in their vault, TV, several destination worthy amusement parks, merchandise, and my guess is enough money to live off the proceeds of investments without ever having to create another piece of media. They might be able to be hurt in one or two areas, but there are so many revenue streams the only way to really hurt them is to get the government involved. With the money they have available to buy politicians I'm not hopeful.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (kUmUV)

276 I'm trashing the movies and talking about Disney, the CORPORATION, which is a real thing and not a superhero character, possibly losing money.

But all some people can see is "comic books" and then they tell me they're too old for comic books.

Posted by: ace

If Disney or and corp. for that matter puts out crap the cut their own throat. I haven't been to a movie in at least 10 yrs. Hollywood doesn't get my money or cable or Netflix. It's all crap.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (Bdeb0)

277 When I saw Ace's cousin playing the Bongos on the Stormtrooper's obviously not severed heads, I resigned myself to never admitting to anyone that I had sat through that nonsense.

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (ReI7m)

278 246 This is like if I do a post about the NFL losing money due to the kneeling protest and then people come in and say, "I don't like this post, I don't follow sports."

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I guess you're getting the Limbaugh "stick to the issues" callers.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (FOPyv)

279 Favorite super hero?

Chuck Norris.
Posted by: Weasel at June 12, 2018 04:19 PM (MVjcR)

Best scene in The Expendables 2 was when Chuck Norris showed up.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (J70i0)

280 And now, Jeremy (I think it was him) reports a bunch of the Star Wars Shill Media all making the argument that Star Wars should no longer attempt to appeal to Star Wars fans, but instead should just appeal to non-Star Wars fans, new viewers, casual fans.


There's a uge problem with that plan:

Star Wars movies are and always have been objectively terrible, and do not maintain as standalone movies.

If any of the previous 10 Star Wars movies had been an independent brand-new movie not part of a franchise with a built-in fan base then it would have failed and lost money. But because each had cachet as part of an ongoing story and as part of something a dedicated based was emotionally invested in, it immediately got enough viewers to make it profitable - - ALL those viewers being Fanboys -- before then earning some extra cash from the casual nonfans who go to see it "because everyone else is."

But if you eliminate that built-in guaranteed fan-base audience, you will NEVER get the same level of viewership just from casuals -- for the self-evident reason that there's a smaller audience pools nowl but also because there's no mass-movement to see the movie, so no one has the rationale to see it "because everyone else is."

Disney will soon learn what it's like to release an independent mediocre film without a built-in audience -- it actually has a good chance of failing. They're so used to guaranteed winners that the idea that a film could utterly flop seems inconceivable to them.

Posted by: zombie at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (c+2jX)

281 Not everybody is interested n every thread.Instead of posting about how you don't like it go do something else until there is one you are interested in.

Posted by: steevy at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (LiyEm)

282 Only 8 episodes left in GoT. Then what?
Posted by: Grump928


Snow. Then fade to black.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (9uM86)

283 The question of how much SJW crap we are currently willing to tolerate? None fuckers, absolutely zero.

They have been sneaking it in for years now, and gotten away with it. Now just a sassy social justice robot is enough to spook the fans.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at June 12, 2018 04:42 PM (fftfA)

284

The Giant Rat can always get the same writers that did the GirlPowah Ghostbusters and get people like Sam Bee, Rosie and that decapitated president-headed girl to star in that next multi-bazillion-dollar mega-mucho flop.

That's a sure-fire winner right there if there ever was one. Oh, wait...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 12, 2018 04:42 PM (HaL55)

285 I was willing to kill 25 million, to make a point.

-Bill Ayers

Posted by: Mainah at June 12, 2018 04:42 PM (9tLFe)

286 "I'm trashing the movies and talking about Disney, the CORPORATION, which is a real thing and not a superhero character, possibly losing money. "

They're losing money because nobody cares about comic book movies then. Drilling down.

Posted by: DanMan at June 12, 2018 04:42 PM (XTiHL)

287 I watched the penis fest that was Altered Carbon until the ... yadda yadda flash back flash back no real plot got to me.

************************

I avoided that one but should have known better not to watch Anon. Brilliant concept, then became wasted on it being reduced to a quasi-porn flick where the "hero" fucks this girl, then that girl, and then oh I know, let me fuck the girl who is a murder suspect too! The End.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 04:42 PM (+dsLj)

288 Favorite super hero?

Chuck Norris.
Posted by: Weasel at June 12, 2018 04:19 PM (MVjcR)

Best scene in The Expendables 2 was when Chuck Norris showed up.
Posted by: WOPR


In the town and started whipping Russian ass?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 04:43 PM (9uM86)

289 Posted by: Buzzion

LOL, we already get SW everyday.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 04:43 PM (Bdeb0)

290 For me, Iron Lady wouldn't work because it's about constructing the suit and not just about wearing it.

I agree that's a major part of the draw, and the writing would have to work around it. "Learning to use the suit" is kind of old hat now (especially after Ant Man) so I'd avoid that beyond a few funny scenes. Having Star around as the old rich guy who helps fix and create stuff she comes up with like Batman Beyond would probably work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:43 PM (39g3+)

291 With Hollywood going out loud Leftism and running out of new ideas and retread old scripts would it be that hard to walk away?

Posted by: Skip j at June 12, 2018 04:43 PM (pHfeF)

292 Only 8 episodes left in GoT. Then what?

Posted by: Grump928

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There's an ending? I'll finally start watching it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 12, 2018 04:43 PM (VgKNm)

293 262 Only 8 episodes left in GoT. Then what?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:40 PM (yQpMk)

5 spinoffs are planned. The first is in preproduction. It takes place 1000s of years earlier when White Walkers and earth nymphs ruled the day.

Color me skeptical.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 12, 2018 04:43 PM (IdRpH)

294 Speaking of Tarzan, I wish they would have promoted John Carter better.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 04:43 PM (c6UIl)

295 I will say, Kevin Feige has been pretty much unerring in his judgment of how to handle marvel, and Disney would be absolutely bonkers to mess with his vision. On the other hand, by definition, SJWs are completely nutso, so...?

Posted by: Dean Wormer at June 12, 2018 04:43 PM (fftfA)

296
It basically completely dropped off the radar once Milo was made persona-non-grata.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 04:22 PM (WDCYi)

No, no. The "radar" means the corporate media, and only the most blue-pilled Americans still listen to it. I am surprised I haven't heard anyone else, not even Breitbart, make the connection between Gamergate and the NYT Whoregate. There is a huge point to make there, especially in the complete lack of coverage, and I wouldn't be surprised if leftists make pimping idiots official policy.

Posted by: trev006 at June 12, 2018 04:43 PM (/pCm+)

297 I dunno anything about Captain Marvel, but pulling in a new super hero to save them from the consequences of the Infinity War seems awfully deus ex machina

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at June 12, 2018 04:43 PM (hMwEB)

298 192 I still say that Jonny Quest would make a great movie if Hollywood wouldn't screw the pooch.

Posted by: golfman at June 12, 2018 04:31 PM (If3tB)



IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE JONNY QUEST HAD A DOG ! ! !

Posted by: BEN ROTHLESBERGER at June 12, 2018 04:43 PM (tu3iY)

299 >>>Star Wars movies are and always have been objectively terrible, and do not maintain as standalone movies.

it might be the nostalgia talking but I loved them for years. It was only after the prequels that I soured on them.

I don't think the originals are bad, but the sequels robbed them of any magic. Any ideas I had of an even more interesting universe beyond what was seen in the movies died.

It turns out the whole Star Wars universe is very samey-samey and repetitive.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:44 PM (8rNrN)

300 I wonder if the Deep State is funding this crap that is failing Disney. ...

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo


As they (DS) attacks those Waco, Tx, HGTV

Posted by: Braenyard at June 12, 2018 04:44 PM (Vnlws)

301 I knew people took Rotten Tomatoes as gospel by the way they talked about it, but that credibility has to be eroding the last couple years.

Dumb.

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 04:44 PM (+lOpA)

302 >>Only 8 episodes left in GoT. Then what?


You wait 5 more years for the next book to come out.

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 04:44 PM (ReI7m)

303 When I saw Ace's cousin playing the Bongos on the Stormtrooper's obviously not severed heads, I resigned myself to never admitting to anyone that I had sat through that nonsense.
Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (ReI7m)
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Okay, who wants to tell him?

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 04:44 PM (oMtOd)

304 >>I would still argue that's the exception and not the rule. Just like there are definitely hard core sports fans that are chicks, but it tends to be overwhelmingly male.


She likely is. She's also a well-indoctrinated SJW and it is painful to hear here rants.


The point someone made above was spot-on: you have to create girl-centered stories that appeal to how girls behave, think - not just swap out actors for boy-centered stories/boy characters and expect them to appeal to girls.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 04:44 PM (W+vEI)

305 Testing

Posted by: True the Note at June 12, 2018 04:44 PM (HLTe8)

306

Snow. Then fade to black.

Then the National Anthem and the test pattern with the Indian's head on it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 12, 2018 04:44 PM (HaL55)

307 For now, I'm taking Feige's remarks with a grain of salt. I read through them, and to me there was a definite whiff of "I'm just saying what my Disney bosses want to hear" coming off them.

That said, I'm worried Marvel movies will go SJW after Avengers 4, if for no other reason than there doesn't seem to be a specific plan from that point on. Like other people here, I want to see Avengers 4 to close out the whole arc that started with Iron Man, but that may be it for me.

Posted by: T at June 12, 2018 04:45 PM (Vgw1E)

308 I'll knap flint to make a point.

Posted by: Neanderthal: your favorite proto human super hero at June 12, 2018 04:45 PM (DJwbr)

309 Mmmmm I don't know if coming up with new stories or new characters might break the cycle of endless rehash of the same old things. Maybe someone should give that a go. I'm bored of the same storie being told over and over again. Hollywood and Disney need to up the game to keep interest. But alas they are not able to.

Posted by: Usntakim at June 12, 2018 04:45 PM (0OmEj)

310 And, yet, we'll never get a proper Dredd sequel...

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 12, 2018 04:45 PM (NL6wI)

311 Iron Lady wouldn't work because it's about constructing the suit and not just about wearing it. Tony Stark's redneck constructed first suit was awesome .

Counter example: the smoking hot French chick from Highlander: The Series. She was a welder (artistic sculptures), and was frequently sweaty with her welding gear on.

Posted by: wooga at June 12, 2018 04:45 PM (dgk4E)

312 In the town and started whipping Russian ass?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 04:43 PM (9uM86)

Yes.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 12, 2018 04:45 PM (J70i0)

313 I still say that Jonny Quest would make a great movie if Hollywood wouldn't screw the pooch.


******


Hell, Scooby Doo would make a great movie if Hollywood wouldn't screw the pooch.

Posted by: Trudeau's Left Eyebrow at June 12, 2018 04:45 PM (m45I2)

314 And yeah, definitely reviewers are being paid off. Its very obvious that Rotten Tomatoes has been entirely coopted. Their treatment of Black Panther reviews was a little too blatant.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:40 PM (39g3+)

There are many "famous" reviewers, and some not so famous (Harry Knowles, ew) who routinely get perks, extras, what-have-you, to talk up a movie.

https://tinyurl.com/yb2a7tox

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 12, 2018 04:46 PM (MX7xj)

315 To me GOT is just one big SJW girl power fest.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 04:46 PM (c6UIl)

316 It's not what the fucking post is about.





How would anyone know that unless they actually read the thing?



Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 04:38 PM

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Dear Lord, we have to actually read the posts now?


WTF?! who does that?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 12, 2018 04:46 PM (+Dllb)

317 A young Duke had a thing for Lynda Carter in Wonder Woman. She's still pretty hot, by the way. BRB.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 12, 2018 04:46 PM (gC2IV)

318 Well, I have zero interest in comic book movies but plenty of interest in this subject.

It's like with Gamergate. I have zero interest in video games but I knew that was a BFD in the culture wars.

These are battlegrounds that matter. Bigly.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 12, 2018 04:46 PM (0jtPF)

319 Do any TV stations go off the air anymore?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:46 PM (yQpMk)

320 >> I don't think the originals are bad, but the sequels robbed them of any magic


This is true.

Like banging an old girlfriend who let herself go.

Ruins the magic. You have to remove her from your spank bank, completely.

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 04:46 PM (ReI7m)

321 On a related note:

Yesterday I found in a pile of free books a 1974 DC comic that introduced a new superhero character: OMAC.

Anybody heard of OMAC? Whatever became of the character? Did he exist beyond this one "origin story" issue? (Price printed on the cover: 20 cents. Wow.)

He was a pretty pointless and unnecessary character. His name was an acronym for "One Man Army Corps," because he fought as if he was a one-man army. But the whole origin stiory was trivial and ridiculous, and there ssems to have been no "need" for a new copycat type superhero who wasn't really much different than other superheroes. The only cool part was that he has 1970s sideburns AND a mohawk! Beat the punks by two years.

Posted by: zombie at June 12, 2018 04:47 PM (c+2jX)

322 >>>If Disney or and corp. for that matter puts out crap the cut their own throat. I haven't been to a movie in at least 10 yrs. Hollywood doesn't get my money or cable or Netflix. It's all crap.
Posted by: wrg500

...

If I told you that *I* wasn't interested in your hundredth "I haven't watched movies since The Duke died" post, how would you take that?

So my newsy post about a corporation losing money isn't worth writing, but your posts about how you're a serious person that doesn't watch movies (making it all about you, a single exemplar that says little about the wider world) are important and worthy?

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:47 PM (8rNrN)

323 We are living in the days between Joker (Obama) and Bane(if Deep State takes down Trump). It's uncanny.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 12, 2018 04:47 PM (IdRpH)

324 A twenty million dollar Iron Man remake.

The Korean or Japanese one.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 12, 2018 04:47 PM (VgKNm)

325 They have been sneaking it in for years now, and gotten away with it. Now just a sassy social justice robot is enough to spook the fans.

I agree. For years we've been willing to put up with a groaner line in a movie, some stupid thing a character throws out there unopposed, some presumption. It was always there: the hypocrite Christian, the closeted gay prude, the greedy Republican. Whatever, once in a while okay I can ignore it if the rest of the movie is fun enough.

But they decided to take Obama's advice and "get in their face" and now its just obnoxious. Enough, you've had your fun now we are done with it. Too many sucker punches, too many tracts disguised as films, too many sneering swipes at political enemies. We won't put up with it any longer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:47 PM (39g3+)

326 267 >>if ewoks are gay why are there so many of them?

>>#Logic

I'm running a Star Wars pen and paper game right now, and one of the players has an Ewok that has been mackin' on other sapients.

Lovin' knows no language barriers.
Posted by: Sporkatus at June 12, 2018 04:40 PM (HtLSE)


Love means never having to say "yub yub"

Posted by: Buzzion at June 12, 2018 04:47 PM (lKs2v)

327 I think that we are reaching peak sjw as Trump momentum moves forward and the SCOAMF's failures come to light. It will take 6+ years for Trump's leadership to start to shape the populace as a whole. I'm a amazed at what a president can do to shape our country. Hate to say it but GWB was a zero in that aspect.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 12, 2018 04:47 PM (pw+jk)

328 Do any TV stations go off the air anymore?
Posted by: Grump928(C)


Infomercials.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 12, 2018 04:47 PM (KnK6d)

329 For me, I'm tired of movies based on comic book characters. I'd actually like some thoughtful movies, but Hollyweird is full of cretins so that's pretty much a non-starter.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 12, 2018 04:48 PM (5Yee7)

330 I'll knap flint to make a point.
Posted by: Neanderthal: your favorite proto human super hero


Golf clap.

I'll just nap to make a point.
Posted by: Jeff Sessions

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 04:48 PM (9uM86)

331 Hell, Scooby Doo would make a great movie if Hollywood wouldn't screw the pooch.


The Daphne & Velma prequel is bad, so very bad.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:48 PM (yQpMk)

332 I imagine their hope would be to replicate what Guardians did - take some F-List characters and make them A-Listers. But I doubt they have another genie in that bottle.


Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 04:48 PM (oZ6kz)

333 "Hell, Scooby Doo would make a great movie if Hollywood wouldn't screw the pooch.
Posted by: Trudeau's Left Eyebrow"


I felt weird checking out Velma's boobs, but the actress was so hot.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 12, 2018 04:49 PM (OD2ni)

334 Virginia is for Nubbers

Posted by: Gov. Bob McDonnell at June 12, 2018 04:49 PM (ReI7m)

335 I still say that Jonny Quest would make a great movie if Hollywood wouldn't screw the pooch.

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Raj is already a person of color. If he and Jonny have sex and Race Bannon transitions to female they'd be hitting all the right notes! I've even got a title. The main plot is about Jonny getting in touch with his feminine side and call it Jonny Questioning!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 04:49 PM (+y/Ru)

336 "To me GOT is just one big SJW girl power fest."

I started rooting for the Lannisters and to kill the fucking dragons and that horrible Khaleesi. Hmm. blonde girl gets the throne that's her due by using massive unassimilated immigration? sounds far-fetched.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:49 PM (FOPyv)

337 Oh Star Wars fans are listening. Solo's failure is proof of that.

I was born in '82 so I missed the original theatrical run, but I saw all three Special Editions on opening night and multiple times thereafter. Saw each prequel at a midnight showing on opening night and then at least one more time. TIE Fighter is my favorite video game of all time. I've purchased and read way too many good and bad EU novels. I consider myself an "absolutely loves the movies and certain EU stuff" type of fan, and not the "camps out in line weeks ahead of time in costume" kind.

I knew something was wrong after Force Awakens shoved Mary Suewalker in all of our faces, but Rogue One had me thinking that everything was OK despite its idiotic cartoon characters who make idiotic decisions. Then The Last Jedi came out, and that was the last straw. I swore off Disney Wars after that abomination, and still haven't seen Solo and don't plan to until I can either torrent it or get it for $2 from a Redbox. JJ saying I hated the movie because I was afraid of women (MrsUNIVAC in certain contexts sure, but not in general) and then the Pando controversy just proved me right. As far as I'm concerned Star Wars ended with Revenge of the Sith, and all the EU stories that I liked are the ones that happened.

The fans sent Disney a message, but I don't think they're going to hear it unless IX craters too. Which given the sour mood of the fans, it might. Good luck generating $2 billion in box office with an audience composed of nobody but Woke Tumblrinas.

Posted by: Mr_UNIVAC at June 12, 2018 04:49 PM (r6SJw)

338 That said, I'm worried Marvel movies will go SJW after Avengers 4, if for no other reason than there doesn't seem to be a specific plan from that point on. Like other people here, I want to see Avengers 4 to close out the whole arc that started with Iron Man, but that may be it for me.
Posted by: T at June 12, 2018 04:45 PM (Vgw1E)

It's a cash cow right now so they aren't going to stop. However, I think they will start a mild decline until they throw out a few SJW bombs. At that point it will collapse.

Caught a couple of scenes from Black Panther and the scientist lady calling the one guy a white boy and then calling him a colonist later on was enough to discourage any desire to see that movie.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 12, 2018 04:49 PM (J70i0)

339 >>>294 Speaking of Tarzan, I wish they would have promoted John Carter better.


I heard they didn't call it "John Carter of Mars" because two movies with "Mars" in the title had flopped the past ten years, and so they decided PEOPLE HATE MARS, KEEP IT OUT OF THE TITLE.

So instead they called it John Carter. No one knows who John Carter is. The interesting thing about him is that he mentally projected himself to Mars.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:49 PM (8rNrN)

340 I imagine their hope would be to replicate what
Guardians did - take some F-List characters and make them A-Listers. But
I doubt they have another genie in that bottle.




Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 04:48 PM

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The blue chick is hot is a Captain Kirk alien sort of way.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 12, 2018 04:49 PM (+Dllb)

341 Ace, you try to make me care about Disney daily and that boat don't float. I just don't care about Disney it be apparent the are SJW for years and years going back to Walter.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 04:50 PM (Bdeb0)

342 I don't think the originals are bad, but the sequels robbed them of any magic. Any ideas I had of an even more interesting universe beyond what was seen in the movies died.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:44 PM (8rNrN)

That was one of the greatest sins of the prequels, and now the new SJW trash.

The first three built an extraordinary mystique, a universe of almost endless possibilities and a cadre of the most iconic characters.

All that has been pissed on ever since. And that's putting it nicely.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 12, 2018 04:51 PM (72PAC)

343 " imagine their hope would be to replicate what Guardians did - take some F-List characters and make them A-Listers. But I doubt they have another genie in that bottle."

this is the problem. They have no idea what makes a character grab thy imagination.

Wolverine was originally some shrimpy Canuck. Rorsarch was probably not supposed to be the good guy,

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:51 PM (FOPyv)

344 >>>For years we've been willing to put up with a groaner line in a movie, some stupid thing a character throws out there unopposed, some presumption. It was always there: the hypocrite Christian, the closeted gay prude, the greedy Republican. Whatever, once in a while okay I can ignore it if the rest of the movie is fun enough.

But they decided to take Obama's advice and "get in their face" and now its just obnoxious. Enough, you've had your fun now we are done with it. Too many sucker punches, too many tracts disguised as films, too many sneering swipes at political enemies. We won't put up with it any longer.

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that's my hope.

Oh wait no, this post is just about comic books and comic book movies. Because that's what the headline mentioned.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:51 PM (8rNrN)

345 John McEnroe of Mars would be a great movie.

"HOW ARE YOU GONNA CALL THAT OUT!?"

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 04:51 PM (ReI7m)

346 303 When I saw Ace's cousin playing the Bongos on the Stormtrooper's obviously not severed heads, I resigned myself to never admitting to anyone that I had sat through that nonsense.
Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 04:41 PM (ReI7m)
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Okay, who wants to tell him?

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 04:44 PM (oMtO


I'm sure that when Han was greeting Lando and Wedge he whispered "pass on the steak stick to the veggies" to them.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 12, 2018 04:51 PM (lKs2v)

347 Ist 5 corporations that control 90-95% of tv/movies/entertainment. Y'all know when they fail, and they will, that they will demand a bailout from taxpayers? Y'all see this coming right?

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 12, 2018 04:52 PM (IdRpH)

348 But yeah, the well is definitely starting to run dry. What percentage of big ticket movies are either remakes, reboots, gender swaps, sequels or prequels? It's got to be over 50% now. Maybe even over 75%.

Marvel has probably run out of bankable characters. DC has a wealth of them, but prove incapable of making decent movies not about Batman. There's a largesse of source material that Hollywood also seems incapable of adapting - video games and anime.


Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 04:52 PM (oZ6kz)

349 Don't put mercury in your ass
Don't put mercury in your ass

Posted by: Public Service Message at June 12, 2018 04:52 PM (XcgmW)

350 I am surprised I haven't heard anyone else, not even Breitbart, make the connection between Gamergate and the NYT Whoregate. There is a huge point to make there, especially in the complete lack of coverage, and I wouldn't be surprised if leftists make pimping idiots official policy.
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Yep. Very similar. And, to me Buzzfeed and NYT had a simple problem. They should have disclosed the relationship with the source. But, disclosing the source would have burned the source, because he was a married man committing felony crimes against the United States. So they had three choices:

1.) Disclose the source - commit journalistic malpractice.

2.) Don't disclose the source - commit journalistic malpractice.

3.) Kill the goddamn stories received from Wolfe - keep whatever's left of your integrity.

They chose "2."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 04:52 PM (AzW6q)

351 The Daphne & Velma prequel is bad, so very bad.
Posted by: Grump928


Naughty Daphne! Naughty Velma!
Naughty wicked Zoot!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 04:52 PM (9uM86)

352 >>>341 Ace, you try to make me care about Disney daily and that boat don't float. I just don't care about Disney it be apparent the are SJW for years and years going back to Walter.
Posted by: wrg500 a

Well, as it turns out, I don't care that you don't care.

Tell me again what the last movie you saw was. It's very fascinating to keep hearing about it.

BTW, I barely see movies any more myself. But I'm not yet bragging about it.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:52 PM (8rNrN)

353 it might be the nostalgia talking but I loved them for years. It was only after the prequels that I soured on them.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:44 PM (8rNrN)

Two of the three original ones were excellent, and even the shit-show third one that introduced your people wasn't awful.

I desperately wanted the next six to be great, and they just...weren't.

Hell, "The Last Jedi" DVD sat on the counter for a month before I got bored enough to watch it.

So yeah, I agree with you, and I think your take is pretty much the opinion of most people.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 12, 2018 04:52 PM (wYseH)

354 So instead they called it John Carter. No one knows who John Carter is. The interesting thing about him is that he mentally projected himself to Mars.



Is that true of the first one? I remember that later he was simply drawn back to Mars by his yearning.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:52 PM (yQpMk)

355 "I knew something was wrong after Force Awakens shoved Mary Suewalker in all of our faces, but Rogue One had me thinking that everything was OK despite its idiotic cartoon characters who make idiotic decisions. Then The Last Jedi came out, and that was the las"

reminds me of my girlfriend when the first prequel came out, she was disgusted that one of the fighter jet thingies was piloted by basically Pam from Accounting, some menopausal chick. Oh way to make a girl power point.

man, that girl was based, I should look her up. Oh right, she's old and married now.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:53 PM (FOPyv)

356 it might be the nostalgia talking but I loved them for years. It was only after the prequels that I soured on them.

I don't think the originals are bad, but the sequels robbed them of any magic. Any ideas I had of an even more interesting universe beyond what was seen in the movies died.

It turns out the whole Star Wars universe is very samey-samey and repetitive.

Posted by: ace


It all comes down to that "falling in love" moment when seeing the original 1977 film. If you watched it and were swept away and transported to another universe and essentially "fell in love" with the whole concept, then you were hooked and would forgive any failings of the subsequent films. But if you were one of those people (like me) who were baffled and unmoved by the original film, then you watched every subsequent film with a jaundiced and skeptical eye, and saw that they didn't qualify as entertaining meaningly standalone films.

Either you were smitten by Star Wars and loved everything about it, or you were not smitten and dismissed it entirely. I think there's no middle ground.

Posted by: zombie at June 12, 2018 04:53 PM (c+2jX)

357 It will take 6+ years for Trump's leadership to start to shape the populace as a whole. I'm a amazed at what a president can do to shape our country. Hate to say it but GWB was a zero in that aspect.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 12, 2018 04:47 PM (pw+jk)

This. And I think it's happening. Some fringe folks, not fence-sitters, are starting to wonder when the left will come after them.

Posted by: golfman at June 12, 2018 04:53 PM (If3tB)

358 1. Empirically, these SJW corporations tend to put their social engineering projects ahead of profits, often very obstinately. I don't see why, but they do. Maybe burning up all their money is worth it to them.
2. The scheming hostile nature of the SJW re-ordering of these franchises is shown by replacement of gender/ethnicity of existing characters rather than creating new characters.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 12, 2018 04:53 PM (4TznP)

359 I think we're going to see the end of the comic book movie with the second and last Avengers.

I guess I'm just sick of the comic book tent pole flick with explosions, some minor characterization between CGI stuff and enough special effects artists to populate the computer science department at three poly techs.

At age 56, I went because my youngest son wanted to go, but now I realize with him leaving for the Naval Academy, we won't have that time together.

As for Star Wars, Disney has been busy killing the franchise with SJW propaganda and just too much product. The first "new" film was a poor remake of the '77 classic I saw when I was 15, complete with a 90-pound girl who had the greatest Force skills without any instruction and lens flares. Rogue One's only good scenes involved Darth Vader being the Sith Lord I always liked. Again, a 90-pound girl beats the stew out of stormtroopers twice her size.

Sure...right..uh...huh.

I didn't see the Last Jedi, but when I read the plot summary and user reviews, I realized I hadn't missed a thing.

I won't see Soylo. There's only one Han Solo and he isn't on the screen in that movie. Also the whole cover-their-ass bit about Lando being omnisexual or whatever is despicable pandering that hasn't saved what is turning out to be a bomb.

Why can't Disney make movies with stories and characters that the average consumer can enjoy, sans political statements? Do they hate money?

Blaming your consumers for why your product doesn't is a brilliant means to get them to buy more, right? Whatever happened to the customer is always right? I guess in Hollywood, unless you kowtow to their sick, twisted godless SJW values, you need a good dose of propaganda with your "entertainment."



Posted by: grizzledcoastie at June 12, 2018 04:53 PM (FMgad)

360 Caught a couple of scenes from Black Panther and the scientist lady calling the one guy a white boy and then calling him a colonist later on was enough to discourage any desire to see that movie.

It was a pointless treatment too. Until that point she'd been protrayed as a sweet, fun girl who was nice to everyone and super smart. Then when the nicest guy on earth shows up (any character Freeman plays) she throws racist cracks at him? That's like having Tony Stark call Black Panther "boy" and telling him to get some watermelon. It was pointlessly insulting just to get a few black members of the audience to laugh or something.

And it made no sense: the character was American, when did they colonize Africa? Oh yeah NEVER. And Wakanda was never colonized, so what the hell do they care?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:53 PM (39g3+)

361 But they decided to take Obama's advice and "get in their face" and now its just obnoxious. Enough, you've had your fun now we are done with it. Too many sucker punches, too many tracts disguised as films, too many sneering swipes at political enemies. We won't put up with it any longer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:47 PM (39g3+)


Yep. The barbs were always there. But it was like ok we got that out of our system now back to the movie....

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 04:53 PM (+lOpA)

362 Ya, SJW Disney.....meh
Wake me up when Marvel comes out with the new Feckless Cunt movie

Posted by: Lucius Cornelius Sulla at June 12, 2018 04:53 PM (DN9hz)

363 I was done with Marvel when they killed off Captain Marvel and then later rebooted the character as a woman.

Jim Starlin weeps.

Posted by: chinese rock at June 12, 2018 04:53 PM (v6UKb)

364 meaningly = meaningful

Posted by: zombie at June 12, 2018 04:54 PM (c+2jX)

365 >>>The fans sent Disney a message, but I don't think they're going to hear it unless IX craters too. Which given the sour mood of the fans, it might. Good luck generating $2 billion in box office with an audience composed of nobody but Woke Tumblrinas.

Let's hope.

At some point people have to stop just complaining about the media and DO something about the media.

I'm excited. I think this may just be that moment.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:54 PM (8rNrN)

366 So instead they called it John Carter. No one knows who John Carter is. The interesting thing about him is that he mentally projected himself to Mars.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:49 PM (8rNrN)

Should have called it Barsoom. At least it would have left 99% of the people wondering what it meant.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 12, 2018 04:54 PM (J70i0)

367 Either you were smitten by Star Wars and loved everything about it, or you were not smitten and dismissed it entirely. I think there's no middle ground.
Posted by: zombie at June 12, 2018 04:53 PM (c+2jX)

So like Bill Kristol and the GOP?

Posted by: golfman at June 12, 2018 04:54 PM (If3tB)

368 For the budgets these firms are spending you expect Lawrence of Arabia or Doctor Zhivago. But what you get is a comic. Something ain't right.

Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 04:54 PM (2LelM)

369 >>But they decided to take Obama's advice and "get in their face" and now its just obnoxious.




Same goes for the actors/actresses IRL.
They were obnoxious in their support of Hillary, and seems that most of them have become start raving mad about Trump.

SJW movies + a$$hole celebrities in them = Kiss that movie revenue good-bye!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 04:55 PM (W+vEI)

370 >>BTW, I barely see movies any more myself.


Well, excpet for the Work Related ones...

I mean, how you gonna write a blog post about Stormy Daniels without watching her Movies? That wouldn't be right.

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 04:55 PM (ReI7m)

371 Two of the three original ones were excellent, and even the shit-show third one that introduced your people wasn't awful.

They were retreads of old plots and hackneyed writing, but some of the dialog was well done and the main actors were really charismatic and effective in their roles, which made a huge difference. If you want to see what A New Hope would be like without really entertaining actors, watch The Force Awakens.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:55 PM (39g3+)

372 They should have called it Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 12, 2018 04:55 PM (IqV8l)

373 Either you were smitten by Star Wars and loved everything about it, or
you were not smitten and dismissed it entirely. I think there's no
middle ground.




Posted by: zombie at June 12, 2018 04:53 PM (c+2jX)


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There is no try....there is only do or do not.

Posted by: Yoda at June 12, 2018 04:55 PM (+Dllb)

374 >>Blaming your consumers for why your product doesn't is a brilliant means to get them to buy more, right? Whatever happened to the customer is always right?

You know he calls us morons, right?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2018 04:56 PM (/tuJf)

375 This is like if I do a post about the NFL losing money due to the kneeling protest and then people come in and say, "I don't like this post, I don't follow sports."

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I'm having a flashback to all the war is bad films that came out about the IRak war.

There we were, blammering on about hollywood making USA-bad, war-bad, islam-good movies to lose money.

and then hollywood ran out of money and we won the culture wars.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:56 PM (FOPyv)

376 These are battlegrounds that matter. Bigly.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 12, 2018 04:46 PM (0jtPF)
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More than any other battleground that we're on. This is THE hill to die on.

It's why I've been so adamant that we hit TBS with everything we had.

I researched and wrote at least a hundred emails to different companies about that. It was boring and time-consuming. But regaining the culture is the ONLY WAY WE CAN WIN.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 04:56 PM (AzW6q)

377 Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:49 PM (FOPyv)

Snow's sister saves him from annihilation . Feeds her enemy to the dogs. Woman knight kicks the crap out of the Hound. A 80lb girl is a super assassin. Incest queen kills all her enemies. Lesbo ship captain protects her castrated pussy brother. And so forth and so on.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 04:56 PM (c6UIl)

378 Johnny Quest - sure, just wait till the SJW's find out what the nickname the troops have for the "locals" in shitholeistan just by total non-coincidence happens to coincide with Johnny's best buddy's first name.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 12, 2018 04:56 PM (37IEG)

379 For the budgets these firms are spending you expect Lawrence of Arabia or Doctor Zhivago. But what you get is a comic. Something ain't right.
Posted by: Gumby

Yip.


Very good point.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 12, 2018 04:56 PM (GYX1g)

380 >>>
Is that true of the first one? I remember that later he was simply drawn back to Mars by his yearning.

in the book it's some kind of mental projection. I think in the movie it's something about concentrating on the symbols on the wall in the cave, like it's a teleporter.

In the book he just looks at mars as he's falling asleep and dreams of it or something and then he's there. To be honest it's pretty vague and I didn't understand how he did it.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:56 PM (8rNrN)

381 I was done with Marvel when they killed off Captain Marvel and then later rebooted the character as a woman.

I kinda respect that though, he's the only Marvel comics character who died and never came back. I mean, for God's sake they brought Bucky back. Mar-Vell has stayed dead.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:56 PM (39g3+)

382 So yeah I was 10 when the original Star Wars came out, loved it, but was pretty meh about the next two, then saw the prequels (on TV) and couldn't really give two farts, and now I've seen a couple in the theaters in the last few years and am downright ambivalent about it now. Will never see another one in the theater. Just seems like a big scam. I've shelled out enough money for this silly franchise. They just keep rehashing the SAME FUCKING PLOT movie after movie after movie.

Posted by: Off the Star Wars Plantation at June 12, 2018 04:57 PM (XcgmW)

383 Trump just tweets about DeNiro and call him Punchy. Hilarious.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 12, 2018 04:57 PM (OD2ni)

384 I know! We'll appeal to non-fans, so who cares if the people who really wanted to see this stuff watch!!

Posted by: Lib Marketing Genius Having the Same Problem with Proposed Reality that All Libs Do at June 12, 2018 04:57 PM (vDqXW)

385 "I kinda respect that though, he's the only Marvel comics character who died and never came back. I mean, for God's sake they brought Bucky back. Mar-Vell has stayed dead.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:56 PM (39g3+) "

I had to explain to some normies who Mar-Vell was. I summed it up as "alien dude who died of space AIDS."

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 04:57 PM (oZ6kz)

386 Snow's sister saves him from annihilation . Feeds her enemy to the dogs. Woman knight kicks the crap out of the Hound. A 80lb girl is a super assassin. Incest queen kills all her enemies. Lesbo ship captain protects her castrated pussy brother. And so forth and so on.


Well, if you're gonna nitpick ...

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:58 PM (yQpMk)

387 If you want to see what A New Hope would be like without really entertaining actors, watch The Force Awakens.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 04:55 PM (39g3+)
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Boy, is that the truth.

I'm one who loved the three original films, saw the first prequel and was very sad, skipped the other two, then was excited for The Force Awakens. Walking out of the theatre my husband and I both realized it was just a retread of the very first movie.

When CBD mentioned The Last Jedi I had to look it up to see what it was.

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 04:58 PM (oMtOd)

388 377 Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:49 PM (FOPyv)

Snow's sister saves him from annihilation . Feeds her enemy to the dogs. Woman knight kicks the crap out of the Hound. A 80lb girl is a super assassin. Incest queen kills all her enemies. Lesbo ship captain protects her castrated pussy brother. And so forth and so on

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that's the problem, just like Dead or Alive games, some folks are reality based and some are magic.

A girl has no looks is the fucking boringest, stupidest thing on TV.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:58 PM (FOPyv)

389 >>>Different incarnations of characters you know

They could freshen up the Black Panther series similar to what they did with Thor. Have the black character be killed off or considered unworthy or something. Then a white guy will assume the role and step into the costume. He could, and this would take a bit of retconning, hail from a small village in Wakanda, the only remaining outpost of the time when Wakanda was a Dutch colony.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 12, 2018 04:58 PM (/qEW2)

390 Let's hope.

At some point people have to stop just complaining about the media and DO something about the media.

I'm excited. I think this may just be that moment.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 04:54 PM (8rNrN)

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I hope it is too. GamerGate showed us how to deal with them (utter contempt), let us see some more of that going forward.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 12, 2018 04:58 PM (I16G8)

391 I would like to see a comic hero that was non cisnormative, a pixie like 90 lb girl that kicked the asses of hardened gangbangers.

Posted by: Cm9000 at June 12, 2018 04:59 PM (yNlrm)

392
Ace, you try to make me care about Disney daily and that boat don't float. I just don't care about Disney it be apparent the are SJW for years and years going back to Walter.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 04:50 PM (Bdeb0)


Walt Disney was no SJW.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 12, 2018 04:59 PM (10vO4)

393 https://fxn.ws/2y4CZGj
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Rosenstein threatened to 'subpoena' GOP-led committee in 'chilling' clash over records, emails show | Fox News

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 12, 2018 04:59 PM (y3aQB)

394 Somebody reboot the world, it's in a Gamergate loop!

Posted by: The Programmer at June 12, 2018 04:59 PM (vDqXW)

395 They should have called it Jimmy Carter.

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Jimmy Carter on Mars: Attack of the Banzai Bunny

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 04:59 PM (+y/Ru)

396 Captain Marvell will be Captain Fabulous.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 12, 2018 04:59 PM (IqV8l)

397 Punchy DeNiro hahaha
Only good for midget porn now

Posted by: Lucius Cornelius Sulla at June 12, 2018 04:59 PM (DN9hz)

398 >>>Rosenstein threatened to 'subpoena' GOP-led committee in 'chilling' clash over records, emails show | Fox News

yeah comin' up next

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 05:00 PM (8rNrN)

399 And yet and yet, no CJ Cherryh movie is ever adapted to the screen. Cyteen would be a female protagonist blockbuster.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 05:00 PM (yQpMk)

400 Wolverine was originally some shrimpy Canuck. Rorsarch was probably not supposed to be the good guy,

Not to Alan Moore no. He thinks Ayn Rand is insane and based Rorschach on objectivist ideology. If you look closely at Watchmen you can see it is a book about competing philosophies, with nihilism "winning" in the end by being completely pragmatic and simply applying his will over everyone else.

But everyone liked Rorschach and not Ozymandias.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 05:00 PM (39g3+)

401 I am quite amused at ace's frustration at the "I don't like comic book" comments.

like, fucker, [insert Bae gif].

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 05:00 PM (FOPyv)

402 I think the answer for Pervywood and Disney in general is to just remove all white males from any speaking roles. Well, keep them as the villains.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 12, 2018 05:00 PM (pw+jk)

403 pimping is legal in Nevada I guess. how about New York? if you got a posse o' pussy you want to make cash off of, do you have to register as a news agency?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 05:00 PM (3hjbs)

404 Rosenstein threatened to 'subpoena' GOP-led committee in 'chilling' clash over records, emails show | Fox News
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 12, 2018 04:59 PM (y3aQB)
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Trump would need to put a STOP on this type of insubordination right quick.

Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2018 05:00 PM (vDqXW)

405 >>At some point people have to stop just complaining about the media and DO something about the media.

I'm excited. I think this may just be that moment.





I think it may be. The NFL is facing permanent fan loss/revenue loss, and even little insidery things like the WHCD are flopping bigtime.


We are done with these tools with a policy of insulting their audience because they think they have a lock on their attention.


NOPE!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 05:00 PM (W+vEI)

406 "Walt Disney was no SJW.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic"


No he was not. He was a patriotic American. He testified to the HUAC about the Commies infiltrating huis unions.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 12, 2018 05:00 PM (OD2ni)

407 Trump just tweets about DeNiro and call him Punchy. Hilarious.

You know who else was an actor? John Wilkes Booth.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 12, 2018 05:01 PM (O5Q3r)

408 321 On a related note:

Yesterday I found in a pile of free books a 1974 DC comic that introduced a new superhero character: OMAC.

Anybody heard of OMAC?

Posted by: zombie at June 12, 2018 04:47 PM (c+2jX)


OMAC? I'd laugh if I were capable of laughter.

Posted by: Frank Castle at June 12, 2018 05:01 PM (NL6wI)

409 I dunno, did we actually win GamerGate? Video game companies eventually realized it would be stupid to stop marketing to, you know, actual gamers, but the video game press hasn't been nearly marginalized enough for my taste.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 05:01 PM (oZ6kz)

410 "Rosenstein threatened to 'subpoena' GOP-led committee in 'chilling' clash over records, emails show | Fox News"

who the fuck is this guy?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 05:01 PM (FOPyv)

411 when Wakanda was a Dutch colony.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 12, 2018 04:58 PM (/qEW2)

Wakanda Wisconsin?

Posted by: golfman at June 12, 2018 05:01 PM (If3tB)

412 Trump just tweets about DeNiro and call him Punchy. Hilarious.



Posted by: Benji Carver at June 12, 2018 04:57 PM (OD2ni)

He will always be Man Boob from Meet the Fockers to me. I agree punchy is dumb though. Was it Rush who called Hollywood politics for stupid people and DC Hollywood for ugly people?

Posted by: Quint at June 12, 2018 05:01 PM (n13/j)

413 >>>I think it may be. The NFL is facing permanent fan loss/revenue loss, and even little insidery things like the WHCD are flopping bigtime.


We are done with these tools with a policy of insulting their audience because they think they have a lock on their attention.


NOPE!

...

yup. As Kurt Schlichter calls them, this might be the revolt of the #WokeNormals.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 05:01 PM (8rNrN)

414 A fish called Wakanda?

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 12, 2018 05:02 PM (37IEG)

415 07 Trump just tweets about DeNiro and call him Punchy. Hilarious.

You know who else was an actor? John Wilkes Booth.

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you know who else signed a peace treaty and then made a big deal about it?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 05:02 PM (FOPyv)

416 "412 Trump just tweets about DeNiro and call him Punchy. Hilarious. "

I don't know, I don't like movies

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 05:02 PM (FOPyv)

417
Horowitz report out on Thursday. Finally.

I hope.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 12, 2018 05:02 PM (r+sAi)

418 Alan Moore is like China Mieville or to an extent early Whedon. he is an idiot in his politics but can't keep himself from writing a good story, in which the story subverts and disproves his politics.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 05:02 PM (3hjbs)

419 Wait... you mean we might never get to see the daring and edgy Nazi Captain America on the big screen?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at June 12, 2018 05:03 PM (uyrlv)

420 But what about the volcano ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 12, 2018 05:03 PM (GNCPT)

421 I'll see Solo when it gets to the $5.00 movie night at the Langley theatre. With the massive $3.00 bag 'o popcorn.

Posted by: Things Mutti said at June 12, 2018 05:03 PM (e1mEI)

422 Screw the volcano! What about the polar bears!

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 12, 2018 05:03 PM (37IEG)

423 >>>I dunno, did we actually win GamerGate? Video game companies eventually realized it would be stupid to stop marketing to, you know, actual gamers, but the video game press hasn't been nearly marginalized enough for my taste.

yeah not really and they still pay these fools to be "consultants" on their games. Pretty much just paying them off to shut up.

as I mentioned yesterday, DC Comics just hired Zoe Quinn, who has never written a comic book nor shown any interest in them, to write her own book in the Vertigo imprint relaunch.

It's like paying off Jesse Jackson, isn't it?

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 05:03 PM (8rNrN)

424 07 Trump just tweets about DeNiro and call him Punchy. Hilarious.

==

Maybe Punchy will stroke out when he reads that.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 12, 2018 05:03 PM (pw+jk)

425 Nature abhors a vacuum. And the demise of SW and Marvel leaves a pretty big vacuum.

I hope we can take the opportunity that presents.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 12, 2018 05:04 PM (++G28)

426 Horowitz report out on Thursday.


#TwoWeeks

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 05:04 PM (yQpMk)

427 Trump just tweets about DeNiro and call him Punchy. Hilarious.
Posted by: Benji Carver at June 12, 2018 04:57 PM (OD2ni)

Why we win.

Posted by: golfman at June 12, 2018 05:04 PM (If3tB)

428 Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 05:00 PM (8rNrN)
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OOOPS sorry Boss

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 12, 2018 05:04 PM (y3aQB)

429 Trump just tweets about DeNiro
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Raging Bullshit.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 05:04 PM (AzW6q)

430 Aren't there just too many of these things.

Posted by: Zombie Hannibal Lecter at June 12, 2018 05:05 PM (n+6mJ)

431 Trump earlier:

"Mark Sanford has been very unhelpful to me in my campaign to MAGA. He is MIA and nothing but trouble. He is better off in Argentina."

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 05:05 PM (+dsLj)

432 >>It's like paying off Jesse Jackson, isn't it?


Didn't Ta'neshi Coates write a comic book for Marvel recently? How'd that sell?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 05:05 PM (W+vEI)

433 "as I mentioned yesterday, DC Comics just hired Zoe Quinn, who has never written a comic book nor shown any interest in them, to write her own book in the Vertigo imprint relaunch. "

this is why you should give your money to the pirate ships out there. the pod casts and that comic book launched by the youtuber ace likes.

buycott the untouchables so they can get rich, bought out, and repeat.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 05:05 PM (FOPyv)

434 Horowitz report out on Thursday.


#TwoWeeks
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 05:04 PM (yQpMk)

See 393...

Posted by: golfman at June 12, 2018 05:05 PM (If3tB)

435 That's the background to the entire SJW Marvel (and DC) thing though: expand our sales by alienating our base and attracting new readers with minority and chick and homosexual characters written by the same identity groups!

That's their entire plan, literally. They have decided that the comic book reader base is aging and shrinking (true) so the way to fix that is to simply bypass them and get new readers.

Except your product has the readers and fan base it has because that's who like the product. Its like having a Mexican restaurant and noticing that fans of mexican food are dwindling so you start making all the food out of vegan products. Its still Tex-Mex, its just crappy now. Because that way you'll get the hawt Vegan market.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 05:05 PM (39g3+)

436 Trump would scare the eyebrow off of Punchy.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 12, 2018 05:05 PM (pw+jk)

437 Downbelow Station even has it's own version of Ewoks.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 05:05 PM (yQpMk)

438
408 321 On a related note:

Yesterday I found in a pile of free books a 1974 DC comic that introduced a new superhero character: OMAC.

Anybody heard of OMAC?

Posted by: zombie at June 12, 2018 04:47 PM (c+2jX)

OMAC? I'd laugh if I were capable of laughter.
Posted by: Frank Castle


OK, it seems that OMAC is explained on these two wikipedia pages:

First, the 1974 OMAC:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMAC_(Buddy_Blank)

"OMAC (Buddy Blank) is a superhero comic book character created in 1974 by Jack Kirby and published by DC Comics. The character was created towards the end of Kirby's contract with the publisher, following the cancellation of his New Gods series and was reportedly developed strictly due to Kirby needing to fill his contractual quota of 15 pages a week.[1][2] As envisioned by Kirby, OMAC is essentially Captain America set in the future....
The original OMAC series ended with its eighth issue (November–December 1975),[6] canceled before the last storyline could be completed, and Kirby wrote an abrupt ending to the series."

But then they rebooted the concept recently:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMAC_(comics)

The OMACs (Omni Mind And Community, originally Observational Metahuman Activity Construct) are a fictional type of cyborg appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics. They are based on the Jack Kirby character of the same name....

The OMACs first appeared in The OMAC Project #1 (June 2005) and were created by Greg Rucka."

Posted by: zombie at June 12, 2018 05:05 PM (c+2jX)

439 I dunno, did we actually win GamerGate? Video game companies eventually realized it would be stupid to stop marketing to, you know, actual gamers, but the video game press hasn't been nearly marginalized enough for my taste.
Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 05:01 PM (oZ6kz)

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It is a start. As a result of going up against them, the press lost a fair amount of the influence they once had. They didn't get it overnight, and they will not lose it overnight.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 12, 2018 05:05 PM (I16G8)

440 Either you were smitten by Star Wars and loved everything about it, or you were not smitten and dismissed it entirely. I think there's no middle ground.
Posted by: zombie at June 12, 2018 04:53 PM (c+2jX)

I was smitten as a 10 year old, and still smitten as a 51-year old. But after FA, I lost all interest. Didn't even see Rogue One. Just can't seem to find the time to go to the theater, oh, well...

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 12, 2018 05:05 PM (MX7xj)

441 So ... Modern Media Entertainment is going to shit ?

So what ?

The people that make Movies and Sports and Television - all the shit that, at this point, I think was intended to distract the masses from what was happening in Politics ... is going to be easier to ignore ?

Well ... damn. What a shame.

What a damn shame.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 12, 2018 05:06 PM (fiGNd)

442 I know it's not really what you guys are talking about but I've always wanted to see The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant made into a movie.

Posted by: Bosk at June 12, 2018 05:06 PM (fjMEv)

443 I dunno, did we actually win GamerGate? Video game companies eventually realized it would be stupid to stop marketing to, you know, actual gamers, but the video game press hasn't been nearly marginalized enough for my taste.

******************

We're winning battles even if the war is ongoing. Evidence of this was in the Steam (a MAJOR gaming platform on the desktop PC) recently telling the SJWs to fuck off.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 05:06 PM (+dsLj)

444 as I mentioned yesterday, DC Comics just hired Zoe Quinn, who has never written a comic book nor shown any interest in them, to write her own book in the Vertigo imprint relaunch.

Vertigo has always been fringe wierdo stuff though, I'm not sure how much that signifies.

Didn't Ta'neshi Coates write a comic book for Marvel recently? How'd that sell?

It didn't. Canceled the series after two issues. They did have him write an issue of Captain America which had Cap only in a flashback and was about evil white people fighting against Antifa and BLM.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 05:06 PM (39g3+)

445 409 I dunno, did we actually win GamerGate? Video game companies eventually realized it would be stupid to stop marketing to, you know, actual gamers, but the video game press hasn't been nearly marginalized enough for my taste.


Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 05:01 PM (oZ6kz)

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I never really followed GamerGate. I was busy when all that shit was hitting the fan, so I never fully grasped what it was, what the implications are, and what the fallout is / should have been / could have been.

Also - the only games I've played in the last 10 years are those available on the Wii, due to the presence of younglings in the house (and the cost of them). And Minecraft.

Prior to that, I wasn't really much of a "gamer" either. Quake and Quake III. Unreal.

Can someone point me to a top-level writeup, or give me the quick synopsis and help a moron out?

Posted by: reason at June 12, 2018 05:06 PM (sPO/s)

446 "Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 05:03 PM (8rNrN) "

Pay to play reviews is going to be endemic to just about every form of entertainment.

Honestly, the only difference to me with video games is that one of the major players (Nintendo) has no interest in pushing politics (at least not American politics). The minute we get pansexual Mario, I give up on life.

(Those rumors about Birdo are odious lies! Mario is as hetero as they come.)

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 05:06 PM (oZ6kz)

447 nude nood Rosenstein

Posted by: runner at June 12, 2018 05:06 PM (bUjCl)

448 >>>428 Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 05:00 PM (8rNrN)
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OOOPS sorry Boss

NP! Just wanted to let everyone know it was coming up.

Posted by: ace at June 12, 2018 05:06 PM (8rNrN)

449 10 Revert standard identity
20 End

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 12, 2018 05:06 PM (e1mEI)

450 If Walt Disney's head wasn't frozen in suspended animation out in Arizona it would be spinning in his grave.

Posted by: Trudeau's Left Eyebrow at June 12, 2018 05:07 PM (m45I2)

451 The Independent thinks Trump's comment is bizarre - as opposed to De Zero's, which I guess was totally in keeping with his job introducing Springsteen in the Tony Awards ceremony.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 12, 2018 05:07 PM (37IEG)

452 Anybody heard of OMAC?

I thought it was a pretty cool concept for a name and it sort of gives you an instant origin story even if his origin was a bit off the wall.

But the character never really went anywhere beyond odd guest star appearances.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 05:08 PM (39g3+)

453 "the character was American, when did they colonize Africa? Oh yeah NEVER"

koff

Posted by: Liberia at June 12, 2018 05:08 PM (3hjbs)

454 Its like having a Mexican restaurant and noticing that fans of mexican food are dwindling so you start making all the food out of vegan products. Its still Tex-Mex, its just crappy now. Because that way you'll get the hawt Vegan market.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Well, to be frank, that plan WORKS in places like SF and Brooklyn. They DO make vegan versions of various ethnic cuisines, and make a pretty penny selling it to soibois and soigrrrls.

So since the writers live in these enclaves, they probably got the idea to replicate the pattern with move audiences.

Problem is, the whole of the USA in not like some hipster enclave, so the idea doesn't scale up well.

Posted by: zombie at June 12, 2018 05:09 PM (c+2jX)

455 When I was a pre-teen, starting to look at comics several decades ago and realizing that some of these stories were pretty cool, it didn't take me long at all to figure out that Captain Marvel was ALREADY a washed-up wannabe hero.

The only parents who got their kids Captain Marvel comics were the same ones who bought them Kaboom! cereal. It was sad.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 12, 2018 05:10 PM (k1TUh)

456 Only 8 episodes left in GoT. Then what?
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I read some news chyron paragraph saying they're working on a prequel series.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 12, 2018 05:10 PM (Evws/)

457 it's as if, just because HR at a large company can fire you for wearing a MAGA hat, they think they can summon you to purchase their hate filled lefty garbage.
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 04:21 PM (FOPyv)

Yeah! Next thing you know they'll be forcing you buy their crappy insurance that pays for sexual reassignment surg....... Hey, wait. Didn't they already do that?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 12, 2018 05:10 PM (9BLnV)

458 443 I dunno, did we actually win GamerGate? Video game companies eventually realized it would be stupid to stop marketing to, you know, actual gamers, but the video game press hasn't been nearly marginalized enough for my taste.

******************

We're winning battles even if the war is ongoing. Evidence of this was in the Steam (a MAJOR gaming platform on the desktop PC) recently telling the SJWs to fuck off.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 05:06 PM (+dsLj)



Steam needs to tell some others to fuck off besides SJWs. I think they realized that if they caved to their demands and set the policy the way they wanted it would result in games like The Witcher Series having to be taken off Steam.

But who Steam needs to tell to fuck off really is the asset flippers and other dreck on their platform.

Posted by: buzzion at June 12, 2018 05:10 PM (lKs2v)

459 Either you were smitten by Star Wars and loved everything about it, or you were not smitten and dismissed it entirely. I think there's no middle ground.

Posted by: zombie at June 12, 2018 04:53 PM (c+2jX)


I have to disagree. The original Star Wars was an excellent movie, not because of the content but because of the wild new special effects. It was, at the time, pretty awesome.

The problem was that too many people forgot that it was just an effects movie (the whole "The Force" bullshit sort of caught on as a fad but was really half a joke) and started taking the ridiculous story (which seemed, with the following movies, to be created ad hoc) seriously.

Star Wars, the original movie, was a fine piece of work - a fine piece of special effects work and good guys killing bad guys, generally. The rest was total dogshit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 12, 2018 05:10 PM (lz35u)

460 Talk about a super hero! Spider Raccoon!

https://bit.ly/2sYQWzO

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 05:11 PM (+y/Ru)

461 456 Only 8 episodes left in GoT. Then what?
-----
I read some news chyron paragraph saying they're working on a prequel series.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 12, 2018 05:10 PM (Evws/)



Isn't that what Martin is doing instead of finishing the novels?

Posted by: buzzion at June 12, 2018 05:11 PM (lKs2v)

462 Different incarnations of characters you know

Still waiting for Chinese "Shaft".

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 12, 2018 05:11 PM (oVJmc)

463 376---....But regaining the culture is the ONLY WAY WE CAN WIN.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 04:56 PM (AzW6q)
------------------------------
THIS.
And for those (like me) who are Eeyores, I still say that fighting back is the only way to keep our dignity --- win OR lose.
Do not go gentle.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 12, 2018 05:12 PM (0jtPF)

464 nood - with FLAMING SKULL

Posted by: Hands at June 12, 2018 05:12 PM (EzdLW)

465 What a concept, Grumpy !
Lotta good work there.
Not to mention the Chanur series, or Foreigner ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 12, 2018 05:12 PM (GNCPT)

466 Sigh. On the plus side, I and my family can reminisce about the good old days when Marvel studios actually tried to entertain its fans. Or maybe not; pretty sure that ending net neutrality has already killed us.

Posted by: physics geek at June 12, 2018 05:14 PM (huQJB)

467 409 I dunno, did we actually win GamerGate? Video game companies eventually realized it would be stupid to stop marketing to, you know, actual gamers, but the video game press hasn't been nearly marginalized enough for my taste. 

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 05:01 PM (oZ6kz)

The entire video game presstitute industry is built on huge ad buys from corporations like EA trying to appeal to millenials. But it isn't enough, and there is a whole subculture built around PewDiePie and other YouTube deplorables. I would go so far as saying that subculture has more influence over their medium than, say, film watchers have on Hollywood.

Posted by: trev006 at June 12, 2018 05:15 PM (X2App)

468 Only 8 episodes left in GoT. Then what?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 04:40 PM (yQpMk)

I haven't watched Game of Thrones since I cancelled cable. What will happen? Everybody will kill everyone else, the dragons will eat Daenerys because they're felling a bit peckish, all the dragons will engage in an ongoing sexual relationship with Cersei, and live happily ever after?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 12, 2018 05:17 PM (9BLnV)

469 Star Wars, etc. were fun when they were just simply movies, with the spontaneity and energy that comes from a genuine creative spark. They connected with people because they were real stories that had a beginning and an end.

Now that everything is a Franchise, i.e., a soulless corporate product to be
milked for every cent possible according to a rigid schedule, stories
are no longer allowed simply to end in their appropriate time. They
must all linger on forever on life support until the plug is mercifully
pulled. Star Wars now is about as emotionally engaging as the latest McDonald's burger rollout.

It'sAllSoTiresome.jpeg

Posted by: BunnyFoofoo at June 12, 2018 05:18 PM (Z0/+C)

470 409>>>

Gaming has sort of always had a giant bulwark called Japan to hide behind.

No matter how many whiny SJWs put out their weird LGBT crap with Unity or Ren'Py, Japanese devs just continue to not give a fuck about Western SJW REEEEE-ing.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 05:19 PM (SVLb/)

471 438 OK, it seems that OMAC is explained on these two wikipedia pages:

First, the 1974 OMAC:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMAC_(Buddy_Blank)
...
Posted by: zombie at June 12, 2018 05:05 PM (c+2jX)


Yeah, I had to look it up. Also released in 1974 was "The Punisher," whose real name is "Frank Castle."

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 12, 2018 05:19 PM (NL6wI)

472 "The entire video game presstitute industry is built on huge ad buys from corporations like EA trying to appeal to millenials. But it isn't enough, and there is a whole subculture built around PewDiePie and other YouTube deplorables. I would go so far as saying that subculture has more influence over their medium than, say, film watchers have on Hollywood.

Posted by: trev006 at June 12, 2018 05:15 PM (X2App) "

True. I'd guess game streamers have more influence than review websites nowadays.

They can still be bought off, but it's less centralized, so it's harder to have a monopoly on the influence makers.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 05:19 PM (oZ6kz)

473 Avenatti: The Russians Are After Me!

Oh, FFS.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 04:21 PM (Boy/L)

He thinks he has been out of the news cycle too long and has to fling poo to attract attention.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at June 12, 2018 05:20 PM (O9qtX)

474 "No matter how many whiny SJWs put out their weird LGBT crap with Unity or Ren'Py, Japanese devs just continue to not give a fuck about Western SJW REEEEE-ing.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 05:19 PM (SVLb/) "

Yeah, I said Nintendo, but it's really all the Japanese companies. They're still a massive part of the industry, and they don't give a shit about the SJW crusade.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 05:21 PM (oZ6kz)

475 Late to the party but my 2 cents.....
Disney ain't going anywhere. Why? Because there aren't any other movie companies that do animated cartoons as well as they do. Oh sure some of their recent stuff has been somewhat infected but they minimize that in the children's movie arena. They know if they fuck that up they are dead. Even leftist useful idiots don't want their 5y old exposed to that crap.

Also about star wars..? I have a very different view of those movies than most people. . I loved the O T . Not because of Luke, Leia, Han.... nope. For me, Star Wars is about Darth Vader. It's the road he traveled from pure evil to some form of redemption. I liked the prequels trilogy also, because it showed the road Anikan Skywalker traveled from being a smart but annoying kid to becoming pure evil. Sure the prequels had some problems, the kid was annoying, some of the main the actors were not great (Christensen and Portman were just gawdawful), but it was still a story of good vs evil. Evil won that time. The newest group of star wars does not interest me. I don't care to see Luke, Han, Leia as old pointless characters. Without Vader there is nothing to interest me.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at June 12, 2018 05:21 PM (myjNJ)

476 I object to calling anyone "Khalisi" unless she has bodacious knockers and is will to prove it.

But then, I'm not really the target audience for any of this. I stopped reading comics when Mrs Peel showed me what the REAL Avengers were, and thought the 2nd Star Wars film so lame I haven't seen another.

Posted by: George LeS at June 12, 2018 05:22 PM (59GGI)

477 I've left this damn brilliant sock on too long. but I read the book...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 12, 2018 05:23 PM (8D42x)

478 See, even if you don't like the Marvel Superhero universe, or the dorky Star Wars universe, you are here talking about it.

That's the pernicious nature of the shabby pop culture world we live in.
We actually live in an age of technological marvels, people flying around the world at 35,000 ft, watching movies.
All the music you want in the palm of your hand.
Life expectancy getting longer.
And on, and on.

And we get fed idiotic childish drek by Disney and SKG and all the rest, and they are fighting to put out some dissonant political garbage embedded in childrens fantasy stories, because so-called adults are being too simple minded to expect MORE.

It all fucking sucks. Disney sucks so hard we should have hurricanes in Florida all the time from the low pressure cell over Orlando.

Frankly, I wish an asteroid would come down there and turn it into a smoking crater. Whatever Disney and the rest once were (and even back in the '30's and 40's, the propaganda was being laid on pretty thick), it's gone now.

Our pop culture is a sickening morass of stupid, malevolent memes, trying to make us all into robots of the SJW mindset. You will accept LGBT and all the rest, or else!!
I want Disney to burn, literally burned to the ground, with Bob Iger and the rest tied to the stake.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at June 12, 2018 05:28 PM (vcOmj)

479 478 It all fucking sucks. Disney sucks so hard we should have hurricanes in Florida all the time from the low pressure cell over Orlando.

Frankly, I wish an asteroid would come down there and turn it into a smoking crater.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at June 12, 2018 05:28 PM (vcOmj)


Uh, well, make them low-yield, tactical hurricanes and asteroids so that my family and friends may be spared and I'll sign up for your newsletter.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 12, 2018 05:35 PM (NL6wI)

480 I have no idea what this is all about.

Posted by: Strabo at June 12, 2018 05:37 PM (Nxt4N)

481 ONE MORE TIME! WITH FEELING!

GET WOKE, GO BROKE!!!!

YEEAAAHHHH!!!!!

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at June 12, 2018 05:45 PM (T09ml)

482 There's something about the FF that is just so 60s era goofy that it just does not seem capable of lending itself to any remotely serious screen portrayal.

Unless.

The ONLY chance would be to stick with the tried and true Marvel blend of quips and Wagner-level tragidrama, and bring out honest to Kirby depictions of Surfer and Galactus--full 50 feet tall and THE most dead-serious awesome threat yet faced by the earth (minus Grimace and the Glove). That's the only possible way it'd work.

Maybe.

Posted by: doomed at June 12, 2018 05:55 PM (UW4Uc)

483 Do one based on KISS having nothing to do with the band as the original KISS comics did. New young actors who look right in the makeup and costumes...it could work...

Posted by: Sidney Allen Johnson at June 12, 2018 06:03 PM (/5hhT)

484 I think the only way to make superheroes fresh again is to inject zombies. There's an idea that will never get old.

Posted by: Trudeau's escaping eyebrow at June 12, 2018 06:12 PM (33F0b)

485 Frankly, I think Marvel could probably turn freaking Moon Knight - a D-lister if ever there was one - into a financial success, if they could keep costs reasonable, which is quite possible since it probably wouldn't require the same amount of expensive CGI as Infinity War or, hell, Ant-Man.

We'll see what they plan to do with the A-listers, but Chris Hemsworth seems like he's having the time of his life playing Thor, and they've laid the ground for Bucky to take over as Cap (and so replace Evans with Sebastian Stan) for several years. The only major hump they've got to get over is replacing RDJ as Iron Man, since he's been the face of this thing for a decade.

Posted by: TheBlackBaron at June 12, 2018 06:13 PM (6DO4N)

486 MY TIME IS NOW!!!

Posted by: ROM, Space Knight at June 12, 2018 06:14 PM (yNqPc)

487 I think Marvel could probably turn freaking Moon Knight - a D-lister if ever there was one - into a financial success, if they could keep costs reasonable

Moon Knight is great, but he's such a Batman rip off it would be tough to distinguish him very well. I mean his multiple personality thing is a nice start but he needs more to really be a unique character rather than a clone with silver rather than black longjohns.

There's something about the FF that is just so 60s era goofy that it just does not seem capable of lending itself to any remotely serious screen portrayal.

They really are the 60's "explorer family" theme and its hard to bring that to modern day... unless you play up the super science themes and family laughs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 12, 2018 07:05 PM (39g3+)

488 They are willing to insult fans, to make a point.



They are willing to lose money, to make a point.



They are willing to wreck companies, to make a point.
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Old thread I know, but, assuming we can weather the storm, we will reach a point where businesses recognize hiring progs leads to bankruptcy, and social media makes it very easy to filter the progs out of the hiring process, since they can't keep their mouths shut about their lunacy.

Posted by: Methos at June 12, 2018 07:08 PM (XQvuQ)

489 Most of Jane Foster Thor that I have read is actually pretty good, and she's dead now with original Thor taking back the title. He was still around any way, and lady Thor story arc was always going to end with her dying. I actually think it would make a good two part movie, but I don't know how they do it now that mjolnir is gone and Thor was already unworthy at the beginning of the MCU. I've picked up most of the comic run when I can get back issues on sale.

The rest of SJW marvel is a dumpster fire.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at June 12, 2018 07:35 PM (m5Czl)

490 I think the market research people look at the numbers and see that maybe 20% of the people who see Star Wars and Superhero movies are hard-core fans, so they think they can write them off.

What they don't realize is that those people account for 80% of the seats sold. (80/20 principle) Some of them will see the movie every weekend it's out, and some of them will bring friends and family. Some of them may even recruit new fans.

I used to be a die-hard Star Wars fan. My brother and I saw the original movie in excess of 15 times, and we took our parents at least once. I'm not one any more, but I do take my wife, who wouldn't have gone otherwise. When I decided to skip Solo, I cost them two tickets, not one. I did see Infinity War, and I'll probably see the next one, unless it gets the kind of reviews Solo is getting, but after that, I'm pretty much done with A-list Marvel as well. I'll see the funny side-stories, like Deadpool and Ant Man, though, as long as they're fun.

Oh, and maybe a gender-swapped lesbian Wolverine, in a love triangle with Jean Gray and Lady Cyclops as they fight male oppression. That would obviously be a good idea.

Posted by: DavidD at June 13, 2018 08:17 AM (5naCt)

491 We can expect more of this drivel that passes for entertainment in the future, because, this is what happens when middle age women become executives - they become scolds.

Posted by: Wendy at June 13, 2018 10:53 AM (bpemY)

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