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Thread before the Gardening Thread: Brave People [KT]
I think one major impetus for my change was the fact that, despite being in default liberal environments all of my life, I nevertheless always adored the works of the Western literary tradition. And when I saw the 1980s' multiculturalism taking over university campuses, and ignorant students who had never read the works of the Western canon feeling empowered to reject those works on the basis of the gonads and melanin of their authors, that to me was appalling. Ironically, people I don't think understand this distinction, in the 1970s, which was the height of this very abstruse literary theory known as deconstruction, that you mentioned, and that I was an uncritical acolyte of. However odd the theories of language were, holding that meaning is impossible, that the human self is just a fiction, a trope of language, we read the canon without ever once thinking to say, if I'm a female, "Oh, gee, I can't read Milton because he's a dead white male." It never came up. So, I fortunately had a strong grounding in greatness, in beauty, in eloquence, in sublimity. And when that came under attack, that started to turn me away from the broader trends that were going on in academia.The March Through the Institutions was slow. Didn't catch everybody. I want to think of ways to re-introduce young people to some of the beauty she describes above. Any ideas?
Coleman Hughes, a young black Julliard-trained musician and philosophy major has stood up to the rhetoric of Michael Eric Dyson and Ta-Nehisi-Coates. He has made quite an impressions among many of the more cultured bloggers on the right. I think I read about him here at AoSHQ, too. From Powerline:
Progressives ought not dodge the question: Why are blacks the only ethnic group routinely and openly encouraged to nurse stale grievances back to life? . . . There is more, all equally sensible. And this guy is an undergraduate! Someone, please get him a bodyguard.The Assistant Village Idiot got in on the conversation about Hughes, too. But this led to a discussion of Why Art Became Ugly. Worth reading. A good case is made that modernism in art has run its course. Here's one of the money quotes (Stephen Hicks) via from Neo-neocon:
The contemporary Enlightenment world prides itself on its commitment to equality and justice, its open-mindedness, its making opportunity available to all, and its achievements in science and technology. The Enlightenment world is proud, confident, and knows it is the wave of the future. This is unbearable to someone who is totally invested in an opposed and failed outlook. That pride is what such a person wants to destroy. The best target to attack is the Enlightenment's sense of its own moral worth. Attack it as sexist and racist, intolerantly dogmatic, and cruelly exploitative. Undermine its confidence in its reason, its science and technology. The words do not even have to be true or consistent to do the necessary damage. And like Iago, postmodernism does not have to get the girl in the end. Destroying Othello is enough.This brings me back to the feisty Heather MacDonald. Can we get the Liberal Arts back?
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Hi KT, thought you might be on time today
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2018 11:24 AM (pHfeF)
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Damn. Read the content.
Posted by: lin-duh at June 16, 2018 11:24 AM (kufk0)
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Hi. Sorry I'm late. Was cleaning up explosive vomitus this morning.
If the post is disjointed, please understand.
If the post is disjointed, please understand.
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at June 16, 2018 11:26 AM (BVQ+1)
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Damn, who would have thunk the horde was a punctual sort of group???
Posted by: lin-duh at June 16, 2018 11:26 AM (kufk0)
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If you want a single unifying theory of the ruin of western civilization, it would be the government's insistence on taking over the role of father, for countless poor and/or black children.
Further, if you wanted to find ONE way to improve western civilization today, it would be a concerted effort by society to promote and educate poor and/or black men on how to be responsible fathers.
Further, if you wanted to find ONE way to improve western civilization today, it would be a concerted effort by society to promote and educate poor and/or black men on how to be responsible fathers.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 11:26 AM (cY3LT)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 16, 2018 11:26 AM (7A6Uv)
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Hi all
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:26 AM (gjGvH)
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Anyway, Happy Father's Day to the dads out there.
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at June 16, 2018 11:26 AM (BVQ+1)
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 11:27 AM (Ncyf9)
Posted by: David Carridine at June 16, 2018 11:28 AM (7A6Uv)
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 11:28 AM (Ncyf9)
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copied and pasted from end of last thread and my quest to not become "that girl."
So, here's the issue: the guy is going on a short vacay with his folks. Haven't heard from him since last night when his folks got into town. A "good night" would have been nice, but I figured his parents got into town, and they visited with family and went out to eat and caught up, and he probably crashed...no big.
So, I message him this morning to have a good time, keep me posted on any fun stuff they do, very casual...still haven't heard from him.
Now, I trust him. It's not a matter of trust. He's with his family after all. But, even if it was with his boys, I would still trust him. I'm just more upset because, how long does a text take? 10 seconds?
"Good night." or "Will do." probably don't even take that long. Not even a full day into his vacation, and I am already perturbed. I had fully accepted that we wouldn't get to talk like we normally do. I was okay with that. But, I thought he would at least check in periodically.
So, here's the issue: the guy is going on a short vacay with his folks. Haven't heard from him since last night when his folks got into town. A "good night" would have been nice, but I figured his parents got into town, and they visited with family and went out to eat and caught up, and he probably crashed...no big.
So, I message him this morning to have a good time, keep me posted on any fun stuff they do, very casual...still haven't heard from him.
Now, I trust him. It's not a matter of trust. He's with his family after all. But, even if it was with his boys, I would still trust him. I'm just more upset because, how long does a text take? 10 seconds?
"Good night." or "Will do." probably don't even take that long. Not even a full day into his vacation, and I am already perturbed. I had fully accepted that we wouldn't get to talk like we normally do. I was okay with that. But, I thought he would at least check in periodically.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:29 AM (TL2pK)
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If you want a single unifying theory of the ruin of western
civilization, it would be the government's insistence on taking over the
role of father, for countless poor and/or black children.
Further, if you wanted to find ONE way to improve western
civilization today, it would be a concerted effort by society to promote
and educate poor and/or black men on how to be responsible fathers.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 11:26 AM (cY3LT)
What was that Reagan said about the most frightening thing said? "I'm from the Government and I'm here to help".
If you want a single unifying theory of the ruin of western
civilization, it would be the government's insistence on taking over the
role of father, for countless poor and/or black children.
Further, if you wanted to find ONE way to improve western
civilization today, it would be a concerted effort by society to promote
and educate poor and/or black men on how to be responsible fathers.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 11:26 AM (cY3LT)
What was that Reagan said about the most frightening thing said? "I'm from the Government and I'm here to help".
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:29 AM (gjGvH)
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Isn't it curious that the Podesta Group shut down in rapid fashion? (POPCORN)
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 11:30 AM (y3aQB)
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..what I don't have is any rolling papers.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 11:28 AM (Ncyf9)
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Call Jimmy Two Times
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 11:28 AM (Ncyf9)
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Call Jimmy Two Times
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 11:30 AM (y3aQB)
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A Liberal Arts degree was always the degree of the undecided who usually drop out.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 16, 2018 11:32 AM (2DOZq)
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Explosive vomitus is better than projectile diarrheatus.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 16, 2018 11:32 AM (89T5c)
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WTF is going on with the thread?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 16, 2018 11:34 AM (89T5c)
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Father's Day is an offensive concept, isn't it? Wouldn't "Relatives' Day" be more inclusive?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2018 11:34 AM (onc1L)
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17 Explosive vomitus is better than projectile diarrheatus.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 16, 2018 11:32 AM (89T5c)
I saw Explosive Vomitus open for Projectile Diarrheatus in '88 I think it was.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 16, 2018 11:32 AM (89T5c)
I saw Explosive Vomitus open for Projectile Diarrheatus in '88 I think it was.
Posted by: Tami at June 16, 2018 11:34 AM (Enq6K)
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the guy is going on a short vacay with his
folks. Haven't heard from him since last night when his folks got into
town.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:29 AM (TL2pK)
Depends where he went. My wife and I sometimes go to places where the cell reception is pretty bad, and sometimes I don't get text messages in or out for a day.
the guy is going on a short vacay with his
folks. Haven't heard from him since last night when his folks got into
town.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:29 AM (TL2pK)
Depends where he went. My wife and I sometimes go to places where the cell reception is pretty bad, and sometimes I don't get text messages in or out for a day.
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:34 AM (gjGvH)
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Isn't it curious that the Podesta Group shut down in rapid fashion? (POPCORN)
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 11:30 AM (y3aQB)
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They're not gone for good. They just went out for "pizza."
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 11:30 AM (y3aQB)
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They're not gone for good. They just went out for "pizza."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2018 11:35 AM (onc1L)
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Kalisto your post disappeared again.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 16, 2018 11:35 AM (2DOZq)
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>>>I think fatherhood takes some kinds of bravery today that it might not have taken in the past.
Ain't it the truth?
Ain't it the truth?
Posted by: Darth Vader at June 16, 2018 11:36 AM (/qEW2)
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You can Zig Zag down the road to the corner store for rolling papers.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 16, 2018 11:36 AM (89T5c)
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Explosive vomitus is better than projectile diarrheatus.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 16, 2018 11:32 AM (89T5c)
Heh, reminds me when my older one was a baby and did a projectile poop. I was about to change his diaper when from his bottom I head a small "BOOM", and a poop goes flying past his ass by more than a foot. Luckily I had the prescience to place him under a Chux pad while changing him. The poop ended up on the pad, just barely.
Explosive vomitus is better than projectile diarrheatus.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 16, 2018 11:32 AM (89T5c)
Heh, reminds me when my older one was a baby and did a projectile poop. I was about to change his diaper when from his bottom I head a small "BOOM", and a poop goes flying past his ass by more than a foot. Luckily I had the prescience to place him under a Chux pad while changing him. The poop ended up on the pad, just barely.
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:36 AM (gjGvH)
Posted by: Wilford Brimley at June 16, 2018 11:37 AM (RVcmP)
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I just got up so am behind with this. The report is that there were THREE women in the Vegas shooters room when the cops went in. It's in a transcript from the recording of them entering the room.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 11:38 AM (Lqy/e)
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Haven't heard from him since last night? OMG. Better call in a check with the local police
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 16, 2018 11:38 AM (7A6Uv)
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test. 1-2-3. test
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:39 AM (MVjcR)
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Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:29 AM (TL2pK)
Girl: He's been quiet and to himself all evening. He must be thinking about other girls and deciding whether to stay with me or break it off. I'll bet it's that other girl Suzy he knew. I'll rip her eyes out. Oh, why won't he pay more attention to ME! What does that little tramp have that I don't?
Guy: If we could launch two rockets at the same time, orbiting on opposite sides of the Earth, and if those rockets each held a giant slice of bread, then technically they would make a sandwich out of the Earth. How cool would that be?!!?
Girl: He's been quiet and to himself all evening. He must be thinking about other girls and deciding whether to stay with me or break it off. I'll bet it's that other girl Suzy he knew. I'll rip her eyes out. Oh, why won't he pay more attention to ME! What does that little tramp have that I don't?
Guy: If we could launch two rockets at the same time, orbiting on opposite sides of the Earth, and if those rockets each held a giant slice of bread, then technically they would make a sandwich out of the Earth. How cool would that be?!!?
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2018 11:40 AM (QLvwG)
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Those no-sugar gummy bears gave me the diarrheatus.
Posted by: Wilford Brimley at June 16, 2018 11:37 AM (RVcmP)
Candy with no sugar makes no sense at all. If it it doesn't contain sugar, what's the point?
Posted by: Wilford Brimley at June 16, 2018 11:37 AM (RVcmP)
Candy with no sugar makes no sense at all. If it it doesn't contain sugar, what's the point?
Posted by: JoeF. at June 16, 2018 11:41 AM (y8Foj)
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28
I just got up so am behind with this. The report is that there were
THREE women in the Vegas shooters room when the cops went in. It's in a
transcript from the recording of them entering the room.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 11:38 AM (Lqy/e)
If true, Woah. One site claims that girlfriend has "ISIS friends".
I just got up so am behind with this. The report is that there were
THREE women in the Vegas shooters room when the cops went in. It's in a
transcript from the recording of them entering the room.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 11:38 AM (Lqy/e)
If true, Woah. One site claims that girlfriend has "ISIS friends".
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:41 AM (gjGvH)
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The "arts became ugly" around the time mass audiences started to have access to fine arts. It was no longer exclusive or a luxury, so it was necessary to create something that WAS.
Plus, it was a way to turn people away from art and disassociate them with culture. A win-win for the enemies of civilization.
Plus, it was a way to turn people away from art and disassociate them with culture. A win-win for the enemies of civilization.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 16, 2018 11:41 AM (fVubI)
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Test concluded.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:41 AM (MVjcR)
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Girl: He's been quiet and to himself all evening. He must be thinking about other girls and deciding whether to stay with me or break it off. I'll bet it's that other girl Suzy he knew. I'll rip her eyes out. Oh, why won't he pay more attention to ME! What does that little tramp have that I don't?
Guy: If we could launch two rockets at the same time, orbiting on opposite sides of the Earth, and if those rockets each held a giant slice of bread, then technically they would make a sandwich out of the Earth. How cool would that be?!!?
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2018 11:40 AM (QLvwG)
Do you need my address for the new keyboard?
Guy: If we could launch two rockets at the same time, orbiting on opposite sides of the Earth, and if those rockets each held a giant slice of bread, then technically they would make a sandwich out of the Earth. How cool would that be?!!?
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2018 11:40 AM (QLvwG)
Do you need my address for the new keyboard?
Posted by: Tami at June 16, 2018 11:41 AM (Enq6K)
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The best target to attack is the Enlightenment's sense of its own moral worth. Attack it as sexist and racist, intolerantly dogmatic, and cruelly exploitative. Undermine its confidence in its reason, its science and technology.
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And if they can see through you and don't buy your bullshit attacks, watch for an opportunity when they let their guard down and allow you to educate their children.
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And if they can see through you and don't buy your bullshit attacks, watch for an opportunity when they let their guard down and allow you to educate their children.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 16, 2018 11:42 AM (/qEW2)
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@21
Yes, I took this into consideration too, that his reception could get spotty here and there, and again, I'm trying to be cool with it.
But, he was in town last night, and didn't leave till mid-morning, so...I dunno.
@29
Haha, I know. Well it was more yesterday afternoon, not last night, but yeah.
Again, it's not that I don't trust him. And, it's not that I am worried about him. (Well, I WASN'T until now!) I just think...texts aren't that hard. Or take that long. If he can't spare a few seconds for me...maybe I just don't mean that much to him after all.
Yes, I took this into consideration too, that his reception could get spotty here and there, and again, I'm trying to be cool with it.
But, he was in town last night, and didn't leave till mid-morning, so...I dunno.
@29
Haha, I know. Well it was more yesterday afternoon, not last night, but yeah.
Again, it's not that I don't trust him. And, it's not that I am worried about him. (Well, I WASN'T until now!) I just think...texts aren't that hard. Or take that long. If he can't spare a few seconds for me...maybe I just don't mean that much to him after all.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:42 AM (TL2pK)
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'The Closing of the American Mind'. Great Books and Harvard Classics (6ft shelf o'books!). Oddly enough, one of my older cousins liked Readers Digest Condensed Books. I have no idea what to do with them.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 16, 2018 11:42 AM (MIKMs)
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27 Those no-sugar gummy bears gave me the diarrheatus.
Posted by: Wilford Brimley at June 16, 2018 11:37 AM (RVcmP)
One of the best reviews of all time on Amazon about those things.
Posted by: Wilford Brimley at June 16, 2018 11:37 AM (RVcmP)
One of the best reviews of all time on Amazon about those things.
Posted by: Tami at June 16, 2018 11:42 AM (Enq6K)
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>>>28 I just got up so am behind with this. The report is that there were THREE women in the Vegas shooters room when the cops went in. It's in a transcript from the recording of them entering the room.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 11:38 AM (Lqy/e)
Thank you for this. This is the first I've heard of it, and will go search that out.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 11:38 AM (Lqy/e)
Thank you for this. This is the first I've heard of it, and will go search that out.
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (/TzhX)
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (Lqy/e)
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27 Those no-sugar gummy bears gave me the diarrheatus.
.Maltitol.... fake sugar or as they call it sugar alcohol... Deadly for stomachs in to large a dose.. Pity because it does come off just like sugar in taste.
.Maltitol.... fake sugar or as they call it sugar alcohol... Deadly for stomachs in to large a dose.. Pity because it does come off just like sugar in taste.
Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2018 11:44 AM (O2RFr)
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Strongly recommend the Paul Joseph Watson videos about modern art and modern architecture.
Cliffs Notes version- it's all shit
Cliffs Notes version- it's all shit
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (9Vmwd)
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42 test. 1-2-3. test
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:39 AM (MVjcR)
1-2-3=-6
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
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-4?
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:39 AM (MVjcR)
1-2-3=-6
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
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-4?
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (MVjcR)
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>>>31
Guy: If we could launch two rockets at the same time, orbiting on opposite sides of the Earth, and if those rockets each held a giant slice of bread, then technically they would make a sandwich out of the Earth. How cool would that be?!!?
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2018 11:40 AM (QLvwG)
Swoon!
Guy: If we could launch two rockets at the same time, orbiting on opposite sides of the Earth, and if those rockets each held a giant slice of bread, then technically they would make a sandwich out of the Earth. How cool would that be?!!?
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2018 11:40 AM (QLvwG)
Swoon!
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (/TzhX)
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42 test. 1-2-3. test
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:39 AM (MVjcR)
1-2-3=-6
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
1-2-3=-4
Stupid tiny phone keyboard!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:39 AM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
1-2-3=-4
Stupid tiny phone keyboard!
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (4C0+v)
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Who killed the Liberal Arts?
"I", said the Sparrow. "With my Beau and Arrow, I killed the Liberal Arts."
"I", said the Sparrow. "With my Beau and Arrow, I killed the Liberal Arts."
Posted by: Adriane the Bad Poetry Critic ... at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (AoK0a)
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My oldest daughter is a conservative Christian. She's straight A's, entered her second semester of University as a sophomore w/all her AP credit. She's going to teach HS history.
Youngest daughter is STEM oriented and wants to go into Ed. as a math teacher.
We're going to the Shakespeare festival this month, as we always do.
It's one of the highlights of our summer.
I post this not to brag, much, but to say there is hope.
Youngest daughter is STEM oriented and wants to go into Ed. as a math teacher.
We're going to the Shakespeare festival this month, as we always do.
It's one of the highlights of our summer.
I post this not to brag, much, but to say there is hope.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 16, 2018 11:46 AM (ty7RM)
Posted by: JAS at June 16, 2018 11:47 AM (3HNOQ)
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48 42 test. 1-2-3. test
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:39 AM (MVjcR)
1-2-3=-6
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
1-2-3=-4
Stupid tiny phone keyboard!
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (4C0+v
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You are awarded an 'E' for effort.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:39 AM (MVjcR)
1-2-3=-6
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
1-2-3=-4
Stupid tiny phone keyboard!
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (4C0+v
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You are awarded an 'E' for effort.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:47 AM (MVjcR)
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Again, it's not that I don't trust him. And, it's not that I am worried about him. (Well, I WASN'T until now!) I just think...texts aren't that hard. Or take that long. If he can't spare a few seconds for me...maybe I just don't mean that much to him after all.
Two other possibilities:
1) His phone might be dead and he hasn't realized it yet. That happens to me a lot b/c I have an old phone that doesn't give me an accurate battery reading.
2) He is intentionally ignoring you because that is what young men are advised to do with girls they like these days.
Two other possibilities:
1) His phone might be dead and he hasn't realized it yet. That happens to me a lot b/c I have an old phone that doesn't give me an accurate battery reading.
2) He is intentionally ignoring you because that is what young men are advised to do with girls they like these days.
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 16, 2018 11:48 AM (bZ7mE)
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The "arts became ugly" around the time mass audiences started to have access to fine arts. It was no longer exclusive or a luxury, so it was necessary to create something that WAS.
Plus, it was a way to turn people away from art and disassociate them with culture. A win-win for the enemies of civilization.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 16, 2018 11:41 AM (fVubI)
I think it was about the time "middlebrow" became a bad word. Well into the 50's--and probably the 60's--many magazines like The New Yorker, The Atlantic, Harper's and many others--Playboy!-- published short stories that business men and others actually read on trains to and from work. Novels were also read by men--not just women--and there was a real market for literary fiction.
But the experts called what normal people read "middlebrow' and pushed for ever more obtuse and 'difficult"post-modernist bullshit that turned off everyone except left-wing college professors.
Plus, it was a way to turn people away from art and disassociate them with culture. A win-win for the enemies of civilization.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 16, 2018 11:41 AM (fVubI)
I think it was about the time "middlebrow" became a bad word. Well into the 50's--and probably the 60's--many magazines like The New Yorker, The Atlantic, Harper's and many others--Playboy!-- published short stories that business men and others actually read on trains to and from work. Novels were also read by men--not just women--and there was a real market for literary fiction.
But the experts called what normal people read "middlebrow' and pushed for ever more obtuse and 'difficult"post-modernist bullshit that turned off everyone except left-wing college professors.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 16, 2018 11:48 AM (y8Foj)
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Wow.
I've got a friend from Mongolia who's been posting pictures from the country in her Facebook feed. Absolutely gorgeous.
I've got a friend from Mongolia who's been posting pictures from the country in her Facebook feed. Absolutely gorgeous.
Posted by: junior at June 16, 2018 11:48 AM (33izQ)
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Again, it's not that I don't trust him. And, it's not that I am
worried about him. (Well, I WASN'T until now!) I just think...texts
aren't that hard. Or take that long. If he can't spare a few seconds for
me...maybe I just don't mean that much to him after all.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:42 AM (TL2pK)
He's either trustworthy or he isn't. You either trust him or not. It could depend on how long you two have been together (and perhaps how old you two are--I'm...a decade or two into my 29th year, so I see things quite differently than I did when I was much younger). Have you met his family?
Again, it's not that I don't trust him. And, it's not that I am
worried about him. (Well, I WASN'T until now!) I just think...texts
aren't that hard. Or take that long. If he can't spare a few seconds for
me...maybe I just don't mean that much to him after all.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:42 AM (TL2pK)
He's either trustworthy or he isn't. You either trust him or not. It could depend on how long you two have been together (and perhaps how old you two are--I'm...a decade or two into my 29th year, so I see things quite differently than I did when I was much younger). Have you met his family?
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:48 AM (gjGvH)
Posted by: Adriane the Bad Critical Math Thinking Critic ... at June 16, 2018 11:49 AM (AoK0a)
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46 42 test. 1-2-3. test
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:39 AM (MVjcR)
1-2-3=-6
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
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-4?
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (MVjcR)
-1-2-3 = -6
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:39 AM (MVjcR)
1-2-3=-6
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
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-4?
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (MVjcR)
-1-2-3 = -6
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:49 AM (/TzhX)
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test. 1-2-3. test
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:39 AM (MVjcR)
1-2-3=-6
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
You're math-fu is poor
test. 1-2-3. test
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:39 AM (MVjcR)
1-2-3=-6
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
You're math-fu is poor
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:49 AM (gjGvH)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2018 11:49 AM (O2RFr)
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49 Who killed the Liberal Arts?
"I", said the Sparrow. "With my Beau and Arrow, I killed the Liberal Arts."
Posted by: Adriane the Bad Poetry Critic ... at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (AoK0a)
Beau --> Bow
--Adriane the Bad Speller, Edited
"I", said the Sparrow. "With my Beau and Arrow, I killed the Liberal Arts."
Posted by: Adriane the Bad Poetry Critic ... at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (AoK0a)
Beau --> Bow
--Adriane the Bad Speller, Edited
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:50 AM (/TzhX)
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That's the same combination I have on my luggage
Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2018 11:49 AM (O2RFr)
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Luggage? You have luggage? We used to dream of luggage!
That's the same combination I have on my luggage
Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2018 11:49 AM (O2RFr)
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Luggage? You have luggage? We used to dream of luggage!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:51 AM (MVjcR)
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Hope you have something nice planned this weekend.
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Mowing. The backyard is starting to look like a hay field. Of course, it is hot and humid, which correlates with a need to do a lot of weed-eating also.
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Mowing. The backyard is starting to look like a hay field. Of course, it is hot and humid, which correlates with a need to do a lot of weed-eating also.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:51 AM (V+k34)
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test. 1-2-3. test
The first 3 prime numbers?
Posted by: Adriane the Bad Critical Math Thinking Critic ... at June 16, 2018 11:49 AM (AoK0a)
LOL, bad critical math critic. Must work for CNN
test. 1-2-3. test
The first 3 prime numbers?
Posted by: Adriane the Bad Critical Math Thinking Critic ... at June 16, 2018 11:49 AM (AoK0a)
LOL, bad critical math critic. Must work for CNN
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:51 AM (gjGvH)
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Let's see, today I'll be mowing the yard,weeding, power washing the deck and changing the oil in three vehicles, possibly the motorcycles as well. Another day in suburban paradise...
Posted by: Under Fire at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (r9UYA)
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>>>43 https://bit.ly/2GSsZzr
Vegas shooter
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (Lqy/e)
Thank you.
Vegas shooter
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (Lqy/e)
Thank you.
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (/TzhX)
Posted by: JT at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (J6qXh)
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62
That's the same combination I have on my luggage
Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2018 11:49 AM (O2RFr)
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Luggage? You have luggage? We used to dream of luggage!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:51 AM (MVjcR)
You have dreams?
That's the same combination I have on my luggage
Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2018 11:49 AM (O2RFr)
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Luggage? You have luggage? We used to dream of luggage!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:51 AM (MVjcR)
You have dreams?
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (gjGvH)
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58 46 42 test. 1-2-3. test
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:39 AM (MVjcR)
1-2-3=-6
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
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-4?
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (MVjcR)
-1-2-3 = -6
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:49 AM (/TzhX)
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The + was silent in the original equation.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:39 AM (MVjcR)
1-2-3=-6
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
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-4?
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (MVjcR)
-1-2-3 = -6
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:49 AM (/TzhX)
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The + was silent in the original equation.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (MVjcR)
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Luggage? You have luggage? We used to dream of luggage!
Posted by: Weasel
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We have to tie our meager belongings in a bandanna, and carry it on a stick.
Posted by: Weasel
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We have to tie our meager belongings in a bandanna, and carry it on a stick.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:53 AM (V+k34)
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69
The + was silent in the original equation.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (MVjcR)
LOL, I'll have to use that on my kids when they make that kind of math error now.
The + was silent in the original equation.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (MVjcR)
LOL, I'll have to use that on my kids when they make that kind of math error now.
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:53 AM (gjGvH)
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If you want a single unifying theory of the ruin of western
civilization, it would be the government's insistence on taking over the
role of father, for countless poor and/or black children.
Further, if you wanted to find ONE way to improve western
civilization today, it would be a concerted effort by society to promote
and educate poor and/or black men on how to be responsible fathers.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 11:26 AM (cY3LT)
What was that Reagan said about the most frightening thing said? "I'm from the Government and I'm here to help".
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:29 AM (gjGvH)
The other half of the equation is, if you have a bunch of males who are spawning children, and you take away from them the responsibility (and sometimes the right) to father their children, a high percentage of them turn feral, and have no incentive to behave as men, in any way, shape, or form.
civilization, it would be the government's insistence on taking over the
role of father, for countless poor and/or black children.
Further, if you wanted to find ONE way to improve western
civilization today, it would be a concerted effort by society to promote
and educate poor and/or black men on how to be responsible fathers.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 11:26 AM (cY3LT)
What was that Reagan said about the most frightening thing said? "I'm from the Government and I'm here to help".
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:29 AM (gjGvH)
The other half of the equation is, if you have a bunch of males who are spawning children, and you take away from them the responsibility (and sometimes the right) to father their children, a high percentage of them turn feral, and have no incentive to behave as men, in any way, shape, or form.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 11:53 AM (cY3LT)
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I was told there would be no integers in this thread.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:53 AM (V+k34)
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We have to tie our meager belongings in a bandanna, and carry it on a stick.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:53 AM (V+k34)
Freaking one percenter with your "belongings"
We have to tie our meager belongings in a bandanna, and carry it on a stick.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:53 AM (V+k34)
Freaking one percenter with your "belongings"
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (9Vmwd)
Posted by: Skeezix at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (D4SfS)
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2 - 4 inches of rain moving in later this weekend from the tropical thing in the Gulf. Because of Harvey, some folks are a mite skittish. I think extra rations of rum are needed to calm nerves.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (QLvwG)
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Luggage? You have luggage? We used to dream of luggage!
Posted by: Weasel
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We have to tie our meager belongings in a bandanna, and carry it on a stick.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:53 AM (V+k34)
You had a stick?
Luggage? You have luggage? We used to dream of luggage!
Posted by: Weasel
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We have to tie our meager belongings in a bandanna, and carry it on a stick.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:53 AM (V+k34)
You had a stick?
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (gjGvH)
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I watched the Heather McDonald video.
There is a real problem with racism today, and it ain't with white people.
There is a real problem with racism today, and it ain't with white people.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (sdi6R)
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The relatives are coming in town today for tomorrow's festivities. I'm making pizza for tonight. I ordered a 1/4 sheet marble cake with buttercream frosting and sliced strawberry filling from Publix that I'm picking up in a couple of hours.
And tomorrow I assume my duty of master meat griller! Time to get my grooming out of the way, and maybe a cup of coffee.
And tomorrow I assume my duty of master meat griller! Time to get my grooming out of the way, and maybe a cup of coffee.
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (rdl6o)
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They're not gone for good. They just went out for "pizza."
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Tony & John Podesta are gone from it
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Tony & John Podesta are gone from it
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (y3aQB)
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Strongly recommend the Paul Joseph Watson videos about modern art and modern architecture.
Cliffs Notes version- it's all shit
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (9Vmwd)
Checks list. . .
Yep, Numbers 22 and 23.
https://tinyurl.com/kqlnyk
Strongly recommend the Paul Joseph Watson videos about modern art and modern architecture.
Cliffs Notes version- it's all shit
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (9Vmwd)
Checks list. . .
Yep, Numbers 22 and 23.
https://tinyurl.com/kqlnyk
Posted by: Bert G at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (yzxic)
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The FBI is the enforcement arm of the Democrat Party.
They replaced the KKK.
Posted by: Skeezix at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (D4SfS)
What are we, chopped liver?
They replaced the KKK.
Posted by: Skeezix at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (D4SfS)
What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: Antifa at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (4C0+v)
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@53 (Okay wanna hear something weird? After I typed that I looked at my phone and it was on 53% on my battery!)
Well, he is relatively mature otherwise, so I am hoping it isn't #2. We talk pretty much every day, with the exception of maybe 2 or 3 days over the last 3 months.
@56
We are older...I am older than him anyway, but he is also 29, so I'd like to think...he is mature-ish.
No, I have not met his family, but that's complicated as well. We are long distance, and his parents don't live in the same town as him, he lives about 5 hours away from them. I will likely be meeting one or some cousins when I go down to visit in a couple of weeks. He did tell me it would be a while before he would be ready to tell his parents about us, which stung a little bit, but I understand where he is coming from- he doesn't want to tell them until he's absolutely sure things are 100% solid.
Well, he is relatively mature otherwise, so I am hoping it isn't #2. We talk pretty much every day, with the exception of maybe 2 or 3 days over the last 3 months.
@56
We are older...I am older than him anyway, but he is also 29, so I'd like to think...he is mature-ish.
No, I have not met his family, but that's complicated as well. We are long distance, and his parents don't live in the same town as him, he lives about 5 hours away from them. I will likely be meeting one or some cousins when I go down to visit in a couple of weeks. He did tell me it would be a while before he would be ready to tell his parents about us, which stung a little bit, but I understand where he is coming from- he doesn't want to tell them until he's absolutely sure things are 100% solid.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (TL2pK)
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I'm more than a bit skeptical of the "investigative reporter" on the Las Vegas shooter. For one, was the "three females" in the room from someone who actually saw them, or from the hotel registry? The "reporting" isn't clear. Was this cleared up in later investigation? Remember, early reports can be wrong, because people are trying to deal with the immediate situation and not necessarily cross-checking everything. The "three females" could be the result of the wrong room number, or wrong date.
(And how many people have to sign for a room? In my experience, only one. Had it been "four adults in the room" I'd have suspected they were looking at the registry.)
Second, the "investigative journalist" uses phrases like "nearly four times". Well, wait -- four isn't a big number. Was it three times or four times? If it said "nearly a dozen times" and the count was eleven -- OK, "rounding". But "nearly four"? What a minuscule amount to inflate the number!
Not that I trust the police on the case; I just don't think everyone claiming to be an "investigative journalist" really is. They have motives, too.
(And how many people have to sign for a room? In my experience, only one. Had it been "four adults in the room" I'd have suspected they were looking at the registry.)
Second, the "investigative journalist" uses phrases like "nearly four times". Well, wait -- four isn't a big number. Was it three times or four times? If it said "nearly a dozen times" and the count was eleven -- OK, "rounding". But "nearly four"? What a minuscule amount to inflate the number!
Not that I trust the police on the case; I just don't think everyone claiming to be an "investigative journalist" really is. They have motives, too.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (fVubI)
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77 70
Luggage? You have luggage? We used to dream of luggage!
Posted by: Weasel
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We have to tie our meager belongings in a bandanna, and carry it on a stick.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:53 AM (V+k34)
You had a stick?
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (gjGvH)
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Sticks were for the lucky kids. Mom said we'd put our eyes out.
Luggage? You have luggage? We used to dream of luggage!
Posted by: Weasel
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We have to tie our meager belongings in a bandanna, and carry it on a stick.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:53 AM (V+k34)
You had a stick?
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (gjGvH)
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Sticks were for the lucky kids. Mom said we'd put our eyes out.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (MVjcR)
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82
The FBI is the enforcement arm of the Democrat Party.
They replaced the KKK.
Posted by: Skeezix at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (D4SfS)
What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: Antifa at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (4C0+v)
Don't forget the DOJ, the IRS, ...
The FBI is the enforcement arm of the Democrat Party.
They replaced the KKK.
Posted by: Skeezix at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (D4SfS)
What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: Antifa at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (4C0+v)
Don't forget the DOJ, the IRS, ...
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (gjGvH)
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The + was silent in the original equation.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (MVjcR)
Are you saying that I'm not doing real well on your test?
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (MVjcR)
Are you saying that I'm not doing real well on your test?
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:56 AM (/TzhX)
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The + was silent in the original equation.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (MVjcR)
Like the 'p' in baby, as the old man used to say.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (MVjcR)
Like the 'p' in baby, as the old man used to say.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2018 11:56 AM (QLvwG)
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76 2 - 4 inches of rain moving in later this weekend from the tropical thing in the Gulf. Because of Harvey, some folks are a mite skittish. I think extra rations of rum are needed to calm nerves.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (QLvwG)
2 - 4 = -2
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (QLvwG)
2 - 4 = -2
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:57 AM (/TzhX)
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You had a stick?
Posted by: jim
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It's a really cheap stick, found it in someone's trash.
Posted by: jim
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It's a really cheap stick, found it in someone's trash.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:57 AM (kBWZu)
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*meager belongings in a bandanna, and carry it on a stick.
I had to use a banana. It only lasted a week.
I had to use a banana. It only lasted a week.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at June 16, 2018 11:57 AM (2VWZR)
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One of the best reviews of all time on Amazon about those things.
Posted by: Tami
You took the words right outta my yap.
Posted by: Tami
You took the words right outta my yap.
Posted by: JT at June 16, 2018 11:58 AM (J6qXh)
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87 The + was silent in the original equation.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (MVjcR)
Are you saying that I'm not doing real well on your test?
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:56 AM (/TzhX)
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Nah. There are no wrong answers. The effort is what counts!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (MVjcR)
Are you saying that I'm not doing real well on your test?
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:56 AM (/TzhX)
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Nah. There are no wrong answers. The effort is what counts!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:58 AM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:58 AM (kBWZu)
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@82
What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: Antifa at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (4C0+v)
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You're the hooligans that terrify ordinary citizens into thinking that they need the FBI to protect them.
What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: Antifa at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (4C0+v)
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You're the hooligans that terrify ordinary citizens into thinking that they need the FBI to protect them.
Posted by: junior at June 16, 2018 11:58 AM (33izQ)
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89 76 2 - 4 inches of rain moving in later this weekend from the tropical thing in the Gulf. Because of Harvey, some folks are a mite skittish. I think extra rations of rum are needed to calm nerves.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (QLvwG)
2 - 4 = -2
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:57 AM (/TzhX)
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You have rain? Luxury!
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2018 11:54 AM (QLvwG)
2 - 4 = -2
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:57 AM (/TzhX)
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You have rain? Luxury!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:59 AM (MVjcR)
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Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:29 AM (TL2pK)
I left you a reply on the earlier thread.
I left you a reply on the earlier thread.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 11:59 AM (0/+vJ)
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The left had to destroy absolute truth to get people to believe lies and contradictory nonsense. They had to destroy absolute morality in order to get people to debase themselves and ignore the corruption and perversion on the left. And in the process, that destroys absolute beauty, partly on purpose because beauty reminds them of goodness and truth and evil shuns beauty.
Take away these three absolutes and you get... San Francisco. Nancy Pelosi. The USSR. Nazi Germany. Pol Pot.
Take away these three absolutes and you get... San Francisco. Nancy Pelosi. The USSR. Nazi Germany. Pol Pot.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:00 PM (39g3+)
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83
We are older...I am older than him anyway, but he is also 29, so I'd like to think...he is mature-ish.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (TL2pK)
You may be over-estimating the ability of us guys to be mature before 30.
You implied this is a long-distance relationship. I assume you two have actually met and been together?
We are older...I am older than him anyway, but he is also 29, so I'd like to think...he is mature-ish.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (TL2pK)
You may be over-estimating the ability of us guys to be mature before 30.
You implied this is a long-distance relationship. I assume you two have actually met and been together?Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 12:00 PM (gjGvH)
100
12
But, I thought he would at least check in periodically.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:29 AM (TL2pK)
I don't even have a cell phone.
But, I thought he would at least check in periodically.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:29 AM (TL2pK)
I don't even have a cell phone.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2018 12:00 PM (sdi6R)
101
It's my experience if you don't get introduced to the fam you the side ho.
Posted by: NCKate at June 16, 2018 12:01 PM (nU09Z)
102
What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: Antifa
You just enforce people's desire to hand out tic tacs, deodorant, and beatings
Posted by: Antifa
You just enforce people's desire to hand out tic tacs, deodorant, and beatings
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:01 PM (39g3+)
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93 87 The + was silent in the original equation.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (MVjcR)
Are you saying that I'm not doing real well on your test?
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:56 AM (/TzhX)
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Nah. There are no wrong answers. The effort is what counts!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:58 AM (MVjcR)
F for eff-ort.
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:52 AM (MVjcR)
Are you saying that I'm not doing real well on your test?
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 11:56 AM (/TzhX)
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Nah. There are no wrong answers. The effort is what counts!
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:58 AM (MVjcR)
F for eff-ort.
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 12:01 PM (/TzhX)
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90
You had a stick?
Posted by: jim
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It's a really cheap stick, found it in someone's trash.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:57 AM (kBWZu)
You had neighbors?
You had a stick?
Posted by: jim
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It's a really cheap stick, found it in someone's trash.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:57 AM (kBWZu)
You had neighbors?
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 12:01 PM (gjGvH)
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Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (TL2pK)
One more thing. He's older. if he didn't grow up using cell phones, he's probably less likely to send text messages than young people unless it's for business.
I think this is pretty normal.
One more thing. He's older. if he didn't grow up using cell phones, he's probably less likely to send text messages than young people unless it's for business.
I think this is pretty normal.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:01 PM (0/+vJ)
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94
2 - 4 = -2
Posted by: m
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Drought.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:58 AM (kBWZu)
Water sucked from the earth.
2 - 4 = -2
Posted by: m
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Drought.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 11:58 AM (kBWZu)
Water sucked from the earth.
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 12:02 PM (gjGvH)
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"Who killed the Liberal Arts?" I think it's a pretty short list: Karl and Marx. And not just his obsession with class. The problem was that he proposed a unifying theory. Every thing comes down to:
-Class struggle
-Racism
-Imperialism
-Sexism
-Patriarchy
She nails it in the video when she talks about the "glorious complexity of western civilization. And, complexity is difficult, requires critical thinking, accounting for subtleties of past social norms etc. Marx just spawned a century of lazy "intellectuals."
-Class struggle
-Racism
-Imperialism
-Sexism
-Patriarchy
She nails it in the video when she talks about the "glorious complexity of western civilization. And, complexity is difficult, requires critical thinking, accounting for subtleties of past social norms etc. Marx just spawned a century of lazy "intellectuals."
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 16, 2018 12:02 PM (ty7RM)
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>>>101 It's my experience if you don't get introduced to the fam you the side ho.
Posted by: NCKate at June 16, 2018 12:01 PM (nU09Z)
Subtle.
Posted by: NCKate at June 16, 2018 12:01 PM (nU09Z)
Subtle.
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 12:03 PM (/TzhX)
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Just read the John Ziegler sidebar at Hot Air. Do you think these NeverTrumpers say to themselves, "I know this doesn't make sense, but I'm going to actually write down and share my idiocy anyway!"
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at June 16, 2018 12:03 PM (rdl6o)
110
Gotta run. Bye all.
Posted by: jim at June 16, 2018 12:03 PM (gjGvH)
111
if he didn't grow up using cell phones, he's probably less likely to send text messages than young people unless it's for business.
Maybe he's like me and thinks its pretty damned retarded to use a TELEPHONE to send little typed messages when you're holding a damned TELEPHONE IN YOUR HANDS, a device invented to TALK TO PEOPLE WITH
Maybe he's like me and thinks its pretty damned retarded to use a TELEPHONE to send little typed messages when you're holding a damned TELEPHONE IN YOUR HANDS, a device invented to TALK TO PEOPLE WITH
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:03 PM (39g3+)
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If you want a single unifying theory of the ruin of western
civilization, it would be the government's insistence on taking over the
role of father, for countless poor and/or black children.
Even more basic than that, the shift from ruling via force and punishment to seeing the nation as a body with various illnesses that needed healing. That little insight is from Michel Foucault, if you can believe it, though he managed to date the shift a couple centuries early (He claimed it happened in the 17th century, whereas the shift occurred mid-19th century, I think).
It sounds like the former is worse than the latter, but the former actually considers the population to be composed of responsible adults who can be left to their own devices as long they do not cross certain lines, whereas the latter sees the population as essentially children that have to be managed continually, and "justice", instead of being punishment for misbehavior, comes to mean organizing society to make more people happy.
civilization, it would be the government's insistence on taking over the
role of father, for countless poor and/or black children.
Even more basic than that, the shift from ruling via force and punishment to seeing the nation as a body with various illnesses that needed healing. That little insight is from Michel Foucault, if you can believe it, though he managed to date the shift a couple centuries early (He claimed it happened in the 17th century, whereas the shift occurred mid-19th century, I think).
It sounds like the former is worse than the latter, but the former actually considers the population to be composed of responsible adults who can be left to their own devices as long they do not cross certain lines, whereas the latter sees the population as essentially children that have to be managed continually, and "justice", instead of being punishment for misbehavior, comes to mean organizing society to make more people happy.
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 16, 2018 12:03 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 16, 2018 12:03 PM (ty7RM)
Posted by: JT at June 16, 2018 12:04 PM (J6qXh)
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Mr. Hughes is thinking it through. That's the last thing the Left wants any black citizen to do.
Here's an interesting fact: Only 2% -- two percent -- of all white Southerners owned slaves. Therefore, the 98% who did not, but (most of whom) nevertheless supported the war, really were fighting for Independence From Northern Dominance, not "for slavery." Think Scotland vs. England.
General Longstreet was right: after the war, he said, "We should have freed the slaves, and THEN fired on Fort Sumter."
Oh, and several thousand black men owned slaves also, and no, not all of them were family members they'd bought to keep with them. These were skilled men: carpenters, brickmasons, blacksmiths, etc., who were able to work off their masters' plantations and were allowed (by the wholly evil masters) to keep part of what they earned.
Oprah Winfrey was shocked speechless when she first visited Africa and learned that the Africans themselves practiced slavery long before the Europeans arrived, and sold each other to the slave traders.
Every race on the planet has practiced slavery.
One last fact: Over 80% of the slaves in the Western Hemisphere were owned, not by North Americans, but by the French, Spanish, and Portuguese.
So the relentless focus on the relatively small sector of Southern slave ownership serves a purely political purpose.
Here's an interesting fact: Only 2% -- two percent -- of all white Southerners owned slaves. Therefore, the 98% who did not, but (most of whom) nevertheless supported the war, really were fighting for Independence From Northern Dominance, not "for slavery." Think Scotland vs. England.
General Longstreet was right: after the war, he said, "We should have freed the slaves, and THEN fired on Fort Sumter."
Oh, and several thousand black men owned slaves also, and no, not all of them were family members they'd bought to keep with them. These were skilled men: carpenters, brickmasons, blacksmiths, etc., who were able to work off their masters' plantations and were allowed (by the wholly evil masters) to keep part of what they earned.
Oprah Winfrey was shocked speechless when she first visited Africa and learned that the Africans themselves practiced slavery long before the Europeans arrived, and sold each other to the slave traders.
Every race on the planet has practiced slavery.
One last fact: Over 80% of the slaves in the Western Hemisphere were owned, not by North Americans, but by the French, Spanish, and Portuguese.
So the relentless focus on the relatively small sector of Southern slave ownership serves a purely political purpose.
Posted by: Beverly at June 16, 2018 12:04 PM (qqVaF)
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@99
Yes, we have met. This will be our third get together. We are able to visit each other about every month, which isn't ideal. And, I don't know how long we'll be able to make it work like that. He came up for Memorial Day weekend, and I am going to be visiting him for 4 days at the end of June.
@97
Thank you so much....that mono-thought thing does make a lot of sense.
Yes, we have met. This will be our third get together. We are able to visit each other about every month, which isn't ideal. And, I don't know how long we'll be able to make it work like that. He came up for Memorial Day weekend, and I am going to be visiting him for 4 days at the end of June.
@97
Thank you so much....that mono-thought thing does make a lot of sense.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:04 PM (TL2pK)
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70
You had sticks?
You had sticks?
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2018 12:06 PM (n9EOP)
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Heather MacDonald's mention of literary deconstruction reminds me of the Sokal Affair. Surely the greatest send-up since Piltdown man. I still revel in the skewering of the vapid academic elites that it represented.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 12:07 PM (TSLKA)
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i returned to my dorm at college (u of m) one afternoon to find it oddly empty. everyone had gone down to the andy warhol book signing, emptied out the supermarket, and returned with campbell soup cans signed by warhol. they looked like warhols! and they come around at times and can bring $2-3,000.
the appeal of pop art is the appeal of relativism, that anything i like is as good as anything you like - it makes things easy - you don't have to learn and distinguish value.
the appeal of pop art is the appeal of relativism, that anything i like is as good as anything you like - it makes things easy - you don't have to learn and distinguish value.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 16, 2018 12:07 PM (Pg+x7)
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You had things to wrap in a bandana?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2018 12:08 PM (onc1L)
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1-2-3=-6
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
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-4?
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (MVjcR)
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Could be +2. Depends on the associativity.
Posted by: Surfperch at June 16, 2018 11:43 AM (4C0+v)
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-4?
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 11:45 AM (MVjcR)
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Could be +2. Depends on the associativity.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 16, 2018 12:08 PM (/qEW2)
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Any one see the odds on Managort copping and cooperating ? Last I saw were 4-1 of him pleading
Posted by: No at June 16, 2018 12:08 PM (hdGgo)
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Could be +2. Depends on the associativity.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
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See? This is why these things can't be relied upon.
Could be +2. Depends on the associativity.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
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See? This is why these things can't be relied upon.
Posted by: Kurt Godel at June 16, 2018 12:10 PM (TSLKA)
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And Tickled Pink-
I hope this will make you laugh. I've posted it before; It's a comedian talking about men and women and cell phones:
https://tinyurl.com/zoe6jnf
It's a more of a challenge for you, because you're away from each other, but his attitude about cell phones may still be the same, but I would expect not to hear from him until he gets back. It's family time now.
I hope this will make you laugh. I've posted it before; It's a comedian talking about men and women and cell phones:
https://tinyurl.com/zoe6jnf
It's a more of a challenge for you, because you're away from each other, but his attitude about cell phones may still be the same, but I would expect not to hear from him until he gets back. It's family time now.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:10 PM (0/+vJ)
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>>>122 Any one see the odds on Managort copping and cooperating ? Last I saw were 4-1 of him pleading
Posted by: No at June 16, 2018 12:08 PM (hdGgo)
4-1 = 3
Posted by: No at June 16, 2018 12:08 PM (hdGgo)
4-1 = 3
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 12:10 PM (/TzhX)
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You had a bandanna?
Posted by: X-ray at June 16, 2018 12:10 PM (9PW1S)
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Posted by: No at June 16, 2018 12:08 PM (hdGgo)
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Not when he knows it's a shame & PDT can Pardon him
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Not when he knows it's a shame & PDT can Pardon him
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 12:10 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 12:11 PM (y3aQB)
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(Sham)
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 12:11 PM (y3aQB)
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:03 PM (39g3+)
Hate cell phones and- in my case-their tiny little keyboards, but if people want to talk to me that way-I will respond in kind.
Hate cell phones and- in my case-their tiny little keyboards, but if people want to talk to me that way-I will respond in kind.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:11 PM (0/+vJ)
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This is a twitter thread but I recommend reading it. He breaks down the social justice warrior step by step and shows how they are mentally disturbed. And not "man you're crazy' but actually clinically damaged.
He describes SJWs as people with varying degrees of narcissistic personality disorder, and supports it very effectively such as:
1. Grandiosity
2. Lack of empathy for other people
3. A need for admiration
4. regulate self-esteem through overt self-enhancement
5. Denial of weaknesses
6. Inflated demands of entitlement
7. Consistent anger in unmet expectations
9. Devaluation of people that threaten self-esteem
10. Diminished awareness of the dissonance between their expectations and reality
11. Diminished awareness of the impact this has on human relationships
12. Overt presentation of grandiose fantasies
etc
Its well supported and based on a video he links. Very worth a scan, and because its twitter it reads very quickly
He describes SJWs as people with varying degrees of narcissistic personality disorder, and supports it very effectively such as:
1. Grandiosity
2. Lack of empathy for other people
3. A need for admiration
4. regulate self-esteem through overt self-enhancement
5. Denial of weaknesses
6. Inflated demands of entitlement
7. Consistent anger in unmet expectations
9. Devaluation of people that threaten self-esteem
10. Diminished awareness of the dissonance between their expectations and reality
11. Diminished awareness of the impact this has on human relationships
12. Overt presentation of grandiose fantasies
etc
Its well supported and based on a video he links. Very worth a scan, and because its twitter it reads very quickly
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:11 PM (39g3+)
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You had things to wrap in a bandana?
Posted by: Cicero
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Mostly cigarette stubs and bottles picked up by the roadside.
Posted by: Cicero
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Mostly cigarette stubs and bottles picked up by the roadside.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 12:11 PM (TSLKA)
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i returned to my dorm at college (u of m) one afternoon to find it oddly empty. everyone had gone down to the andy warhol book signing, emptied out the supermarket, and returned with campbell soup cans signed by warhol. they looked like warhols! and they come around at times and can bring $2-3,000.
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I have a certain admiration for Warhol. I think there was an underlying ironicism to his art. He was lampooning his industry, and the times he lived in. His studio was called "The Factory," and that was a jab at the me too!ism of the times. I think he would be appalled at the "cutting-edge" crap that gets passed off as art these days.
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I have a certain admiration for Warhol. I think there was an underlying ironicism to his art. He was lampooning his industry, and the times he lived in. His studio was called "The Factory," and that was a jab at the me too!ism of the times. I think he would be appalled at the "cutting-edge" crap that gets passed off as art these days.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 16, 2018 12:12 PM (ty7RM)
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Managort was Klaatu's robot.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2018 12:13 PM (IqV8l)
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:03 PM (39g3+)
You're not a millennial. With them it's like an extra appendage.
You're not a millennial. With them it's like an extra appendage.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:13 PM (0/+vJ)
136
Chris - Link?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 12:13 PM (pNih8)
137
"Who Killed the Liberal Arts?"
It wasn't me and you can't prove it! I'll be damned if I'm going to take the rap.
It wasn't me and you can't prove it! I'll be damned if I'm going to take the rap.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 16, 2018 12:14 PM (9BLnV)
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127 Not when he knows it's a shame
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 12:10 PM (y3aQB)
129 (Sham)
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 12:11 PM (y3aQB)
Yeah, but meanwhile, and this is a good thing, you put a Spinners song in my brain:
It's a shame (sha-ame), the way you mess around with your man
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 12:10 PM (y3aQB)
129 (Sham)
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 12:11 PM (y3aQB)
Yeah, but meanwhile, and this is a good thing, you put a Spinners song in my brain:
It's a shame (sha-ame), the way you mess around with your man
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 12:14 PM (/TzhX)
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Any one see the odds on Managort copping and cooperating
About what? People are acting like these guys are part of a criminal organization and one of them is gonna spill the beans. There's nothing to spill, what part of cooperation makes sense in this scenario? There was no Russian "collusion" there was no work with a foreign government to suborn a presidential election.
About what? People are acting like these guys are part of a criminal organization and one of them is gonna spill the beans. There's nothing to spill, what part of cooperation makes sense in this scenario? There was no Russian "collusion" there was no work with a foreign government to suborn a presidential election.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:14 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:15 PM (39g3+)
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You had things to wrap in a bandana?
Posted by: Cicero
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Mostly cigarette stubs and bottles picked up by the roadside.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 12:11 PM (TSLKA)
I used to dream about having arms to pick things up by the roadside. What's a roadside?
Posted by: Cicero
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Mostly cigarette stubs and bottles picked up by the roadside.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 12:11 PM (TSLKA)
I used to dream about having arms to pick things up by the roadside. What's a roadside?
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 16, 2018 12:16 PM (9BLnV)
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... but i actually just come by here to play the natalie imbruglia video of "torn" at the sidebar. i like it not because it's as good as bach. it appeals to my inner teenybopper - has a nice tune and she's sooooooooo beautiful.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 16, 2018 12:16 PM (Pg+x7)
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136 Chris - Link?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 12:13 PM (pNih
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Chris- Link = 12
136 Chris - Link?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 12:13 PM (pNih
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Chris- Link = 12
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 12:16 PM (MVjcR)
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I have a certain admiration for Warhol. I think there was an underlying ironicism to his art. He was lampooning his industry, and the times he lived in.
I go back and forth on him. At times it seems like he was just posing as an artiste while mocking the culture, and at times he seemed to be serious about it as if what he was doing was great art and he was terribly important. I would love for him to have been just laughing behind their backs, but I get the sense he's like Banksy is now, someone people take terribly seriously and full of their great meaning and importance.
I go back and forth on him. At times it seems like he was just posing as an artiste while mocking the culture, and at times he seemed to be serious about it as if what he was doing was great art and he was terribly important. I would love for him to have been just laughing behind their backs, but I get the sense he's like Banksy is now, someone people take terribly seriously and full of their great meaning and importance.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:17 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: JT at June 16, 2018 12:17 PM (J6qXh)
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On topic of schoolin', the new AP history test is going to be all modern. Nothing on ancient history. t.co/UZeONiy2Yv
I have Opinions on this.
I have Opinions on this.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 16, 2018 12:18 PM (7A6Uv)
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Chris -Thanks. Also, the list of 'qualities' aligns pretty well with the study that showed that Liberals are less able to assess risk.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 12:18 PM (pNih8)
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Chris- Link = 12
Well lets see if you choose a number of 1-24 for each letter then its
38919 - 1291411 which is -1242492
Well lets see if you choose a number of 1-24 for each letter then its
38919 - 1291411 which is -1242492
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:18 PM (39g3+)
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I can't speak for all guys, but I personally despise talking on the phone. I have good friends that are nearly brothers who I would drop everything and drive/fly immediately to do whatever they needed and I only talk talk to them on the phone once or twice a year (if that).
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 16, 2018 12:21 PM (VgKNm)
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 12:22 PM (/TzhX)
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I can't speak for all guys, but I personally despise talking on the phone.
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Same here.
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Same here.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 12:22 PM (N+Do/)
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Okay, I'll start with one Opinion: over the last ten years we have had a revolution in genetics, ancient climatology, and the history of disease which together have brought to light the human story going back almost to 60000 BC.
In this age where we actually CAN tell the story of humankind, it is amazing to me that education bureaucrats have chosen - chosen - not to tell this story.
In this age where we actually CAN tell the story of humankind, it is amazing to me that education bureaucrats have chosen - chosen - not to tell this story.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 16, 2018 12:22 PM (7A6Uv)
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"There was no Russian "collusion" there was no work with a foreign government to suborn a presidential election."
Serenity now, SERENITY NOW!!
Serenity now, SERENITY NOW!!
Posted by: Elmer at June 16, 2018 12:22 PM (p+4kt)
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I can't speak for all guys, but I personally despise talking on the phone.
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Same here.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Hello ?
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Same here.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Hello ?
Posted by: JT at June 16, 2018 12:23 PM (J6qXh)
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Yeah I like the phone as a tool that I use as much as I need to and no more. Like a hammer or a screwdriver, I don't walk around with tools looking for ways to keep using it, tapping it on objects, looking at it from different angles. They're for a job. Get the job done. Put the tool away.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:23 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 16, 2018 12:24 PM (VgKNm)
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Second, the "investigative journalist" uses phrases like "nearly four times". Well, wait -- four isn't a big number. Was it three times or four times? If it said "nearly a dozen times" and the count was eleven -- OK, "rounding". But "nearly four"? What a minuscule amount to inflate the number!
That reminds me of a Peter Cooke/Dudley Moore skit. Moore was a one legged actor auditioning for the part of Tarzan. Cooke said, "I'm sorry you almost got the part, but you didn't have quite enough legs".
That reminds me of a Peter Cooke/Dudley Moore skit. Moore was a one legged actor auditioning for the part of Tarzan. Cooke said, "I'm sorry you almost got the part, but you didn't have quite enough legs".
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 16, 2018 12:24 PM (/qEW2)
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>>>I just don't think everyone claiming to be an "investigative journalist" really is. They have motives, too.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (fVubI)
It did make for a very shoddy read.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 16, 2018 11:55 AM (fVubI)
It did make for a very shoddy read.
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 12:25 PM (/TzhX)
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Bindle
That's the name of the hobo bandana suitcase.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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The Horde never disappoints. A font of info, it is.
That's the name of the hobo bandana suitcase.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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The Horde never disappoints. A font of info, it is.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 12:26 PM (yScch)
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@124
Haha, that did make me chuckle a little bit. Thanks.
I will say, he isn't like a "I hate texting" kind of guy. We text quite a bit most days, or at least a little bit others. He initiates a lot of the time...I would say most of the time, although I step up sometimes too....it's probably 60/40.
But, I can definitely see him being the kind of one-track mindset you mentioned earlier. When we are together, he rarely looks at his phone. That said, I always assumed that was because he was occupied with me in ways that checking your phone would be at best awkward and at worst, rude.
And, I am quite certain he isn't occupied with his parents in the same way, but oh well. I will just....sit back and wait I guess.
Haha, that did make me chuckle a little bit. Thanks.
I will say, he isn't like a "I hate texting" kind of guy. We text quite a bit most days, or at least a little bit others. He initiates a lot of the time...I would say most of the time, although I step up sometimes too....it's probably 60/40.
But, I can definitely see him being the kind of one-track mindset you mentioned earlier. When we are together, he rarely looks at his phone. That said, I always assumed that was because he was occupied with me in ways that checking your phone would be at best awkward and at worst, rude.
And, I am quite certain he isn't occupied with his parents in the same way, but oh well. I will just....sit back and wait I guess.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:26 PM (TL2pK)
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129 (Sham)
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 12:11 PM (y3aQB)
Secretariat whupped his ass good.
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 16, 2018 12:11 PM (y3aQB)
Secretariat whupped his ass good.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2018 12:26 PM (sdi6R)
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I can't speak for all guys, but I personally despise talking on the phone.
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Same here.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 12:22 PM (N+Do/)
It's a combination of things too. My ears don't work like they used to, phones don't work like they used to, and given I have had jobs where talking on the phone was the main task, I would rather not. Sorta like a hooker who, when she gets off work, doesn't want to "cuddle" with her s.o.
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Same here.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 16, 2018 12:22 PM (N+Do/)
It's a combination of things too. My ears don't work like they used to, phones don't work like they used to, and given I have had jobs where talking on the phone was the main task, I would rather not. Sorta like a hooker who, when she gets off work, doesn't want to "cuddle" with her s.o.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 12:26 PM (cY3LT)
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I don't feel like looking for a link but the liberal-leftist woman professor at Canada's Wilfrid Laurier University who was attacked for showing the Jordan Peterson video to show the views of the "other side" in her class (including sanctions against her by the university), is now suing WLU for damage to her reputation. It looks like another liberal just got mugged by reality.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 16, 2018 12:27 PM (Evws/)
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1-2-3 ... sure it might equal -4 using those old Western values, but to the open minded leftist (open to anything) ... 2+2=5, which opens the world to all new opportunities.
The lefties have to proclaim "diversity is strength" as an article of faith, because their foreign anti-Western ideologies have no chance of equaling the richness of Western Civ, the enlightenment, even the scientific advances.
The West has Won ... we just need to hold fast to the foundation. We improve by building on the foundation, not tearing it down and accepting all other proven failures.
The lefties have to proclaim "diversity is strength" as an article of faith, because their foreign anti-Western ideologies have no chance of equaling the richness of Western Civ, the enlightenment, even the scientific advances.
The West has Won ... we just need to hold fast to the foundation. We improve by building on the foundation, not tearing it down and accepting all other proven failures.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 16, 2018 12:27 PM (bT8Z4)
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Will a bundle fit into a bindle?
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 12:27 PM (MVjcR)
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Second, the "investigative journalist" uses phrases like "nearly four times". Well, wait -- four isn't a big number. Was it three times or four times?
Yeah you have to get into fractions to make that one make sense. Its either that or... they want it to be four so that sounds scarier, so "nearly" four puts that number in people's minds.
Yeah you have to get into fractions to make that one make sense. Its either that or... they want it to be four so that sounds scarier, so "nearly" four puts that number in people's minds.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:27 PM (39g3+)
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Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 16, 2018 12:21 PM (VgKNm)
There wasn't a phone in my husband's house until he turned 18; He hates talking on the phone and his cell phone has a rinky dinky keyboard that you have to scroll through numbers to get to the letters, so if he texts him he replies "o.k." or "Yes"
There wasn't a phone in my husband's house until he turned 18; He hates talking on the phone and his cell phone has a rinky dinky keyboard that you have to scroll through numbers to get to the letters, so if he texts him he replies "o.k." or "Yes"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:28 PM (0/+vJ)
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It's a combination of things too. My ears don't
work like they used to, phones don't work like they used to, and given I
have had jobs where talking on the phone was the main task, I would
rather not. Sorta like a hooker who, when she gets off work, doesn't
want to "cuddle" with her s.o.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 12:26 PM (cY3LT)
Or the ol' Bus Driver's Holiday.
work like they used to, phones don't work like they used to, and given I
have had jobs where talking on the phone was the main task, I would
rather not. Sorta like a hooker who, when she gets off work, doesn't
want to "cuddle" with her s.o.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 12:26 PM (cY3LT)
Or the ol' Bus Driver's Holiday.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 16, 2018 12:29 PM (QLvwG)
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SERENITY NOW!!
Posted by: Elmer at June 16, 2018 12:22 PM (p+4kt)
You had serenity?
All we had was angst!
Posted by: Elmer at June 16, 2018 12:22 PM (p+4kt)
You had serenity?
All we had was angst!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2018 12:29 PM (n9EOP)
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i think warhol would appreciate what's going on in the art world today and would find con formation in the complete commodification of art. most of the cutting edge contemporary art is third or fourth generation dada and his work is really just rebaked dada itself.
i respect him. but after that statement of the artwork as just another object, another made or manufactured thing, i don'
i respect him. but after that statement of the artwork as just another object, another made or manufactured thing, i don'
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 16, 2018 12:30 PM (Pg+x7)
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t have much interest in his work.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 16, 2018 12:31 PM (Pg+x7)
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I just don't think everyone claiming to be an "investigative journalist" really is.
There are hardly any left anyway. Probably not many around at any time, but it seems like lately almost none. Investigative journalism requires hard, continuous, long term work. It takes weeks and months to accomplish, its not something you can do with Wikipedia and waiting for a few press releases from activist groups.
Journalists are lazy, that's their primary characteristic. They are also biased and stupid and ill informed and all the rest, they're less interested in reporting the facts than shaping the public worldview. But the main characteristic of journalists is sloth. They'll take the easiest path to get the job done, the least amount of work.
There are hardly any left anyway. Probably not many around at any time, but it seems like lately almost none. Investigative journalism requires hard, continuous, long term work. It takes weeks and months to accomplish, its not something you can do with Wikipedia and waiting for a few press releases from activist groups.
Journalists are lazy, that's their primary characteristic. They are also biased and stupid and ill informed and all the rest, they're less interested in reporting the facts than shaping the public worldview. But the main characteristic of journalists is sloth. They'll take the easiest path to get the job done, the least amount of work.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:31 PM (39g3+)
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Rat Patrol on ThisTV.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 16, 2018 12:31 PM (oVJmc)
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Will a bundle fit into a bindle?
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 12:27 PM (MVjcR)
Does it then become a bungle?
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2018 12:27 PM (MVjcR)
Does it then become a bungle?
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2018 12:31 PM (n9EOP)
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Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:26 PM (TL2pK)
If he had to drive five hours for a trip with his parents his mind would even be more fully on that. When you see him ask him how his vacation was and up to that point just let him see it didn't bother you at all by not contacting him even if it's kind of bothering you.
If he had to drive five hours for a trip with his parents his mind would even be more fully on that. When you see him ask him how his vacation was and up to that point just let him see it didn't bother you at all by not contacting him even if it's kind of bothering you.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:31 PM (0/+vJ)
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The problem, as I see it, is that you can't ignore a woman properly when you are on the phone.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 12:31 PM (Ncyf9)
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Father's Day is an offensive concept, isn't it? Wouldn't "Relatives' Day" be more inclusive?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2018 11:34 AM (onc1L)
I prefer "Spouse's Day".
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 16, 2018 11:34 AM (onc1L)
I prefer "Spouse's Day".
Posted by: Woody Allen at June 16, 2018 12:32 PM (sXefu)
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All we had was angst!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2018 12:29 PM (n9EOP)
Lucky.
All we had was hate and pain.
But mostly hate.
and pain
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2018 12:29 PM (n9EOP)
Lucky.
All we had was hate and pain.
But mostly hate.
and pain
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 12:32 PM (9Vmwd)
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Imean, you can...
But not as much as she probably deserves.
But not as much as she probably deserves.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 12:32 PM (Ncyf9)
Posted by: the ficus at June 16, 2018 12:32 PM (7A6Uv)
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Put it on YouTube or Instagram or Twitter.
Make a cartoon of it.
Make a feminist movie and then sneak it in.
Just don't make them have READ words on paper.
Or let them know these are dead white men. Forge names for the articles.
And yes that's how I perceive most of the 21 and under and a lot of the 21-35's.
Make a cartoon of it.
Make a feminist movie and then sneak it in.
Just don't make them have READ words on paper.
Or let them know these are dead white men. Forge names for the articles.
And yes that's how I perceive most of the 21 and under and a lot of the 21-35's.
Posted by: jakee308 at June 16, 2018 12:34 PM (Sluur)
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... but i think warhol's appeal to newly minted billionaires is that his work confirms that anything they like is as good as anything hanging on the walls of the louvre. doesn't take much effort.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 16, 2018 12:34 PM (Pg+x7)
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And, I am quite certain he isn't occupied with his parents in the same way, but oh well. I will just....sit back and wait I guess.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:26 PM (TL2pK)
A lot of this stuff comes from the differences in expectations. If you are "in a relationship," and you both know it, then yes, the fact that he isn't responding to you is problematic. For whatever reason.
I don't care how old fashioned he is, or how old fashioned his phone is. He saw the texts. Either he responds, or he's at fault here.
Unless.....
You don't really have that type of relationship with him. Which, could mean either you have unrealistic expectations, or you haven't communicated simple "ground rules" for the relationship.
Or...
He's not being 100% straight with you.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:26 PM (TL2pK)
A lot of this stuff comes from the differences in expectations. If you are "in a relationship," and you both know it, then yes, the fact that he isn't responding to you is problematic. For whatever reason.
I don't care how old fashioned he is, or how old fashioned his phone is. He saw the texts. Either he responds, or he's at fault here.
Unless.....
You don't really have that type of relationship with him. Which, could mean either you have unrealistic expectations, or you haven't communicated simple "ground rules" for the relationship.
Or...
He's not being 100% straight with you.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 12:37 PM (cY3LT)
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Posted by: Elmer at June 16, 2018 12:22 PM (p+4kt)
That's not glue . . .
Posted by: the ficus at June 16, 2018 12:32 PM (7A6Uv)
But you can use it as glue.
That's not glue . . .
Posted by: the ficus at June 16, 2018 12:32 PM (7A6Uv)
But you can use it as glue.
Posted by: Uncle Harvey at June 16, 2018 12:37 PM (4C0+v)
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SERENITY NOW!!
Posted by: Elmer at June 16, 2018 12:22 PM (p+4kt)
You had serenity?
All we had was angst!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2018 12:29 PM (n9EOP)
Hoochie Mama!, Hoochie Mama!.......
Posted by: Elmer at June 16, 2018 12:22 PM (p+4kt)
You had serenity?
All we had was angst!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2018 12:29 PM (n9EOP)
Hoochie Mama!, Hoochie Mama!.......
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 16, 2018 12:37 PM (EoRCO)
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Fathers Day dpresses the hell out of me as I failed a being a good father.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 16, 2018 12:38 PM (JFO2v)
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@175
Well technically they drove the 5 hours to see him, but that's neither here nor there.
Your point is the same, and I will try to follow your advice. I just find it hard to believe he hasn't found at least some time to drop me a line.
He mentioned video chatting sometime this weekend, but I will just let him reach out if he wants to....if not, I will just be a good wifey, waiting patiently.
Well technically they drove the 5 hours to see him, but that's neither here nor there.
Your point is the same, and I will try to follow your advice. I just find it hard to believe he hasn't found at least some time to drop me a line.
He mentioned video chatting sometime this weekend, but I will just let him reach out if he wants to....if not, I will just be a good wifey, waiting patiently.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:38 PM (TL2pK)
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.., the triumph of dada-ism is the liberation of those aspiring to culture from any effort to know.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 16, 2018 12:38 PM (Pg+x7)
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> When you see him ask him how his vacation was and up to that point just let him see it didn't bother you at all by not contacting him even if it's kind of bothering you.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:31 PM
===
Let's suppose the guy is out fishing. Is he thinking "hmm, I should text a message saying I'm fishing"?
No.
He's thinking about fishing.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:31 PM
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Let's suppose the guy is out fishing. Is he thinking "hmm, I should text a message saying I'm fishing"?
No.
He's thinking about fishing.
Posted by: A typical guy at June 16, 2018 12:39 PM (qbOvx)
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Fathers Day dpresses the hell out of me as I failed a being a good father.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 16, 2018 12:38 PM (JFO2v)
Past tense?
What about today?
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 16, 2018 12:38 PM (JFO2v)
Past tense?
What about today?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 12:39 PM (cY3LT)
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Fathers Day dpresses the hell out of me as I failed a being a good father.
In what way if it's o.k. to ask that?
In what way if it's o.k. to ask that?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:39 PM (0/+vJ)
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I will just be a good wifey, waiting patiently.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:38 PM (TL2pK
Well, you can practice making sammiches while you wait!
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:38 PM (TL2pK
Well, you can practice making sammiches while you wait!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2018 12:40 PM (n9EOP)
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159 Bindle
That's the name of the hobo bandana suitcase.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
And thus the phrase, "Do not bend, fold, bindle or mutilate" that used to appear on computer punch cards.
(I rate this assertion MOSTLY TRUE.)
159 Bindle
That's the name of the hobo bandana suitcase.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
And thus the phrase, "Do not bend, fold, bindle or mutilate" that used to appear on computer punch cards.
(I rate this assertion MOSTLY TRUE.)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 16, 2018 12:40 PM (pNxlR)
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He mentioned video chatting sometime this weekend, but I will just let him reach out if he wants to....if not, I will just be a good wifey, waiting patiently.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:38 PM (TL2pK)
Maybe I misunderstood... you are married??
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:38 PM (TL2pK)
Maybe I misunderstood... you are married??
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 12:40 PM (cY3LT)
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Gardening thread up...
Posted by: HH at June 16, 2018 12:40 PM (mIJBI)
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 12:41 PM (/TzhX)
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I'm glad I had a relationship with my husband before texts and basically before wide use of e-mail before computers, so that I didn't have to have those expectations. It's challenging enough to have a relationship without modern technology on top of it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:41 PM (0/+vJ)
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I think I started dating my husband sometime in November and he had me at his mom's that Thanksgiving....
Posted by: lin-duh at June 16, 2018 12:41 PM (kufk0)
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But mostly hate.
and pain
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 12:32 PM (9Vmwd)
You had choices?
and pain
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 12:32 PM (9Vmwd)
You had choices?
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2018 12:42 PM (n9EOP)
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If there's some special art to making sammiches I missed it, because I buy ham and cheese or other meat from the store and slap it on bread or we often have store brought tun salda and I give the sammich to him. there's not a whole heck of a lot of loving detail put into it. ;^) Oh, it's lunchtime-Here's your sammich. :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:45 PM (0/+vJ)
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Hot take! The Mongol rampage allowed the reforestation of farmland, sequestering carbon-dioxide and fighting global warming.
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Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 16, 2018 12:45 PM (7A6Uv)
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>> I started dating my husband sometime in November and he had me at his mom's that Thanksgiving....
Kinky.
Kinky.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 12:45 PM (Ncyf9)
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"the latter sees the population as essentially
children that have to be managed continually, and "justice", instead of
being punishment for misbehavior, comes to mean organizing society to
make more people happy.
Posted by: Grey Fox
imo, the "march through the institutions" was enemy action (Soviets). Their goal may have partly been to insert some commie ideology, but mostly it was to weaken and destroy us first, by breaking up the social bonds.
Family, sexual roles, (relative) racial harmony replaced with racial quotas and unrest, feminist divisiveness, and so on ... all elements of tearing us apart from within ... and all engineered by the Soviet PsyOP Department, and inserted and funded by their agents.
It may be more complex than that, but Orwell and others saw it coming, yet we ignored them at our peril.
children that have to be managed continually, and "justice", instead of
being punishment for misbehavior, comes to mean organizing society to
make more people happy.
Posted by: Grey Fox
imo, the "march through the institutions" was enemy action (Soviets). Their goal may have partly been to insert some commie ideology, but mostly it was to weaken and destroy us first, by breaking up the social bonds.
Family, sexual roles, (relative) racial harmony replaced with racial quotas and unrest, feminist divisiveness, and so on ... all elements of tearing us apart from within ... and all engineered by the Soviet PsyOP Department, and inserted and funded by their agents.
It may be more complex than that, but Orwell and others saw it coming, yet we ignored them at our peril.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 16, 2018 12:46 PM (bT8Z4)
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As a guy, I also think that a text like "thinking of you" or something cutesy like "* = kiss" should suffice for two days of out-of-town no contact.
Maybe a photo of something we're doing and a "wish you were here," too. That's probably worth three days.
Maybe a photo of something we're doing and a "wish you were here," too. That's probably worth three days.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 16, 2018 12:47 PM (VgKNm)
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>> If there's some special art to making sammiches I missed it
There is. Really.
The key is freshness and surface area of the ingredients. You want the most surface area possible to maximize taste. You also wanted freshly sliced meats and cheese to maintain max flavor.
It really is an art and the reason that some women are more highly valued than others.
There is. Really.
The key is freshness and surface area of the ingredients. You want the most surface area possible to maximize taste. You also wanted freshly sliced meats and cheese to maintain max flavor.
It really is an art and the reason that some women are more highly valued than others.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 12:47 PM (Ncyf9)
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If there's some special art to making sammiches I missed it
Actually, there is
https://youtu.be/cRs5vfuOLWo
Actually, there is
https://youtu.be/cRs5vfuOLWo
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:47 PM (39g3+)
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Just made Donna &&&&&&V's Mustard Shrimp recipe from "The Deplorable Gourmet" for a gathering with the in-laws to celebrate Patris Tui Dies later this afternoon. Praise be that I remembered that the shrimp had to be peeled just prior to pouring the sauce over them.
Just made Donna &&&&&&V's Mustard Shrimp recipe from "The Deplorable Gourmet" for a gathering with the in-laws to celebrate Patris Tui Dies later this afternoon. Praise be that I remembered that the shrimp had to be peeled just prior to pouring the sauce over them.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 16, 2018 12:48 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Carlos Danger at June 16, 2018 12:48 PM (Ncyf9)
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Kinky.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 12:45 PM (Ncyf9)
Well, at least they weren't doing it on a busy highway like the drunk, drugged up and/ or "just" exhibitionist/crazy people MisHum put a link about on the earlier thread. :^)
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 12:45 PM (Ncyf9)
Well, at least they weren't doing it on a busy highway like the drunk, drugged up and/ or "just" exhibitionist/crazy people MisHum put a link about on the earlier thread. :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:48 PM (0/+vJ)
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Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 12:47 PM (Ncyf9
LOL. No wonder you're not in a relationship now. " I expect you to have a meat slicer at your house when I come over for lunch" put a damper on your first date. ;^)
LOL. No wonder you're not in a relationship now. " I expect you to have a meat slicer at your house when I come over for lunch" put a damper on your first date. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:50 PM (0/+vJ)
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It really is an art and the reason that some women are more highly valued than others.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 12:47 PM (Ncyf9)
So a female sandwich artist has more useful talent than Andy Warhol?
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 12:47 PM (Ncyf9)
So a female sandwich artist has more useful talent than Andy Warhol?
Posted by: X-ray at June 16, 2018 12:50 PM (9PW1S)
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https://youtu.be/cRs5vfuOLWo
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:47 PM (39g3+)
You're nice guy so I'm assuming that I can trust you not to put out some soft porn thing of a woman making sandwiches, right? ;^)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:47 PM (39g3+)
You're nice guy so I'm assuming that I can trust you not to put out some soft porn thing of a woman making sandwiches, right? ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 12:52 PM (0/+vJ)
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So a female sandwich artist has more useful talent than Andy Warhol?
"We think so, but apparently customers don't"
--Subway execs
"We think so, but apparently customers don't"
--Subway execs
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:52 PM (39g3+)
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160---And, I am quite certain he isn't occupied with his parents in the same way, but oh well. I will just....sit back and wait I guess.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:26 PM (TL2pK)
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Yes, wait.
And for heaven's sake, don't contact him.
You'll look clingy --- which, BTW, you actually are. IMO.
I'll concede that in my dating days we didn't have cellphones or texting. It's so easy today to contact someone now that I can see how that may change customs pretty radically.
But I think I'd go nuts if I felt I were OBLIGED to check in with someone every freaking day, especially if I had already explained that I would be busy then.
A lot of people, especially (but not exclusively) males, don't like leashes, even if they truly love the person holding the other end. If you fall apart every time he doesn't contact you for a couple of days, that's too much like a leash.
Your personality may be such that you can't let go, but you do need to cut more slack. In other words, RELAX.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:26 PM (TL2pK)
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Yes, wait.
And for heaven's sake, don't contact him.
You'll look clingy --- which, BTW, you actually are. IMO.
I'll concede that in my dating days we didn't have cellphones or texting. It's so easy today to contact someone now that I can see how that may change customs pretty radically.
But I think I'd go nuts if I felt I were OBLIGED to check in with someone every freaking day, especially if I had already explained that I would be busy then.
A lot of people, especially (but not exclusively) males, don't like leashes, even if they truly love the person holding the other end. If you fall apart every time he doesn't contact you for a couple of days, that's too much like a leash.
Your personality may be such that you can't let go, but you do need to cut more slack. In other words, RELAX.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2018 12:54 PM (0jtPF)
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There's a cookbook called Laurel's Kitchen, that was one of the early vegetarian cookbooks out there. The writer talks about watching Laurel make up her husband's lunch. She takes time with it, making sure that the sandwich won't get soggy, including a thermos of soup with sime cheese to top it and slicing up fruit to go with it. The writer realizes she has just been slapping her husband's lunch together and starts to take a bit more time with it. It's like my husband says "you put the love in it".
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 12:55 PM (Lqy/e)
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I can trust you not to put out some soft porn thing of a woman making sandwiches, right?
Well its Good Eats which I consider a sort of food porn, but its safe to watch with your grandkids
Well its Good Eats which I consider a sort of food porn, but its safe to watch with your grandkids
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 12:56 PM (39g3+)
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@183
It's relatively new, and I am trying very hard to not muck things up in the ways that I have previously...which means being cool, calm, collected and not....well like I am right now.
So, "ground rules" are something I am trying to steer far away from at this point.
And, no, we're not married. I'm being cheeky.
@204
Exactly. Like I said, I am fully aware and okay with the fact that we won't have full conversations like we would normally have with each other. Just a picture or a "thinking of you" text is really all I ask.
Also, to be fair...he did come up to visit me, and my parents ARE in town, and I didn't have him meet them. Don't want to jinx anything. But, they do at least know about him.
It's relatively new, and I am trying very hard to not muck things up in the ways that I have previously...which means being cool, calm, collected and not....well like I am right now.
So, "ground rules" are something I am trying to steer far away from at this point.
And, no, we're not married. I'm being cheeky.
@204
Exactly. Like I said, I am fully aware and okay with the fact that we won't have full conversations like we would normally have with each other. Just a picture or a "thinking of you" text is really all I ask.
Also, to be fair...he did come up to visit me, and my parents ARE in town, and I didn't have him meet them. Don't want to jinx anything. But, they do at least know about him.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:57 PM (TL2pK)
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>>>202 >> I started dating my husband sometime in November and he had me at his mom's that Thanksgiving....
_____
Kinky.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 12:45 PM (Ncyf9)
I read that the same way: "Had me"?
Sorry, lin-duh. This is why we can't have nice things.
_____
Kinky.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 12:45 PM (Ncyf9)
I read that the same way: "Had me"?
Sorry, lin-duh. This is why we can't have nice things.
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 12:58 PM (/TzhX)
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195 Gardening thread up...
Posted by: HH at June 16, 2018 12:40 PM (mIJBI)
I'm taking the weekend off from yard work. I prefer reading and drinking to sweating.
Posted by: HH at June 16, 2018 12:40 PM (mIJBI)
I'm taking the weekend off from yard work. I prefer reading and drinking to sweating.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2018 12:59 PM (sdi6R)
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Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 12:55 PM (Lqy/e)
It sounds like mindful cooking and food preparation-which seems like a good idea if you can do that. Mostly he's hungry and just wants to eat and doesn't need to be told him I that made sure the bread wasn't soggy and put grated cheese on soup. He does tell me that dinner was quite good if he knows I spent some time on it-so I'm not complaining.
It sounds like mindful cooking and food preparation-which seems like a good idea if you can do that. Mostly he's hungry and just wants to eat and doesn't need to be told him I that made sure the bread wasn't soggy and put grated cheese on soup. He does tell me that dinner was quite good if he knows I spent some time on it-so I'm not complaining.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 01:01 PM (0/+vJ)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 16, 2018 01:01 PM (VgKNm)
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Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:26 PM (TL2pK)
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Yes, wait.
And for heaven's sake, don't contact him.
You'll look clingy --- which, BTW, you actually are. IMO.
I'll concede that in my dating days we didn't have cellphones or texting. It's so easy today to contact someone now that I can see how that may change customs pretty radically.
But I think I'd go nuts if I felt I were OBLIGED to check in with someone every freaking day, especially if I had already explained that I would be busy then.
A lot of people, especially (but not exclusively) males, don't like leashes, even if they truly love the person holding the other end. If you fall apart every time he doesn't contact you for a couple of days, that's too much like a leash.
Your personality may be such that you can't let go, but you do need to cut more slack. In other words, RELAX.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2018 12:54 PM (0jtPF)
Yes, things really are different, now that cell phones are ubiquitous. It takes absolutely NO EFFORT to send a one or two word text, or even a smiley face.
If you are IN A RELATIONSHIP, and that person does not respond to your simple text, with a simple reply, there's a reason for it. I'm not saying the reason isn't a good one (they could be laying face down in a pool of blood somewhere), but there's a reason.
And I know this because I do: Lots of men play this game with the women in their lives. They know it drives them crazy, so they do it, SPECIFICALLY because it does.
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Yes, wait.
And for heaven's sake, don't contact him.
You'll look clingy --- which, BTW, you actually are. IMO.
I'll concede that in my dating days we didn't have cellphones or texting. It's so easy today to contact someone now that I can see how that may change customs pretty radically.
But I think I'd go nuts if I felt I were OBLIGED to check in with someone every freaking day, especially if I had already explained that I would be busy then.
A lot of people, especially (but not exclusively) males, don't like leashes, even if they truly love the person holding the other end. If you fall apart every time he doesn't contact you for a couple of days, that's too much like a leash.
Your personality may be such that you can't let go, but you do need to cut more slack. In other words, RELAX.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2018 12:54 PM (0jtPF)
Yes, things really are different, now that cell phones are ubiquitous. It takes absolutely NO EFFORT to send a one or two word text, or even a smiley face.
If you are IN A RELATIONSHIP, and that person does not respond to your simple text, with a simple reply, there's a reason for it. I'm not saying the reason isn't a good one (they could be laying face down in a pool of blood somewhere), but there's a reason.
And I know this because I do: Lots of men play this game with the women in their lives. They know it drives them crazy, so they do it, SPECIFICALLY because it does.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:01 PM (cY3LT)
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I probably shouldn't give advice because (1) different technological generation and (2) I personally don't like attention.
Slight exaggeration!
What I mean is I've always preferred too little attention to too much.
Which may be weird.
Slight exaggeration!
What I mean is I've always preferred too little attention to too much.
Which may be weird.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2018 01:02 PM (0jtPF)
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And I know this because I do: Lots of men play this game with the women in their lives. They know it drives them crazy, so they do it, SPECIFICALLY because it does.Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:01 PM (cY3LT)
Yes, I know someone who did this as a control issue. The woman is not in a relationship with that man anymore.
And I know this because I do: Lots of men play this game with the women in their lives. They know it drives them crazy, so they do it, SPECIFICALLY because it does.Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:01 PM (cY3LT)
Yes, I know someone who did this as a control issue. The woman is not in a relationship with that man anymore.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 01:03 PM (0/+vJ)
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When I was dating, I would get so frustrated when I didn't hear from him. Turned out he was also dating another woman. She called me on Christmas Eve to try and stake her claim. There was a rough spot, but we got past it. She's still out there dating. We've been married three years and he's much better about keeping in touch 
I knew what sort of relationship he needed, better than she did. And I knew I could give him that and she couldn't. Worry less about how often you hear from him and more about what it would take to make this relationship work.
I knew what sort of relationship he needed, better than she did. And I knew I could give him that and she couldn't. Worry less about how often you hear from him and more about what it would take to make this relationship work.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 01:04 PM (Lqy/e)
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I didn't get the concept of condiments on a sandwich. Once I learned it was there to keep the bread from getting soggy, I started to make sandwiches differently. I'm lucky in that his mom never admitted to burning food. She trained him right.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 01:06 PM (Lqy/e)
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imo, the "march through the institutions" was enemy action (Soviets). Their goal may have partly been to insert some commie ideology, but mostly it was to weaken and destroy us first, by breaking up the social bonds.
Family, sexual roles, (relative) racial harmony replaced with racial quotas and unrest, feminist divisiveness, and so on ... all elements of tearing us apart from within ... and all engineered by the Soviet PsyOP Department, and inserted and funded by their agents.
It may be more complex than that, but Orwell and others saw it coming, yet we ignored them at our peril.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 16, 2018 12:46 PM (bT8Z4)
Think of Marx as a symptom of a more fundamental shift in weltanshauung with roots in the Enlightenment, and you will get closer to what I was thinking of.
Family, sexual roles, (relative) racial harmony replaced with racial quotas and unrest, feminist divisiveness, and so on ... all elements of tearing us apart from within ... and all engineered by the Soviet PsyOP Department, and inserted and funded by their agents.
It may be more complex than that, but Orwell and others saw it coming, yet we ignored them at our peril.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 16, 2018 12:46 PM (bT8Z4)
Think of Marx as a symptom of a more fundamental shift in weltanshauung with roots in the Enlightenment, and you will get closer to what I was thinking of.
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 16, 2018 01:07 PM (bZ7mE)
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@183
It's relatively new, and I am trying very hard to not muck things up in the ways that I have previously...which means being cool, calm, collected and not....well like I am right now.
So, "ground rules" are something I am trying to steer far away from at this point.
And, no, we're not married. I'm being cheeky.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:57 PM (TL2pK)
Ok, got it.
And by ground rules, I'm just sorta referring to what you both have already either agreed to overtly, or by practice.
So... if it's not unusual for a few days to go without contact now, when he's in the same place as you, then it's ok when he's out of town.
If you typically hear from him daily, or more than once daily, when things are normal, then I think he's doubly "obligated" to make sure he stays in touch when he's out of town.
Not because you made him do it, but because that's what you already agreed to.
Now, if he's says he's going to an island without cell phone reception, that's one thing, but there's really no reason why he can't pick up the phone, type a few words, and hit send. If he's not doing it, he's choosing not to.
It's relatively new, and I am trying very hard to not muck things up in the ways that I have previously...which means being cool, calm, collected and not....well like I am right now.
So, "ground rules" are something I am trying to steer far away from at this point.
And, no, we're not married. I'm being cheeky.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 12:57 PM (TL2pK)
Ok, got it.
And by ground rules, I'm just sorta referring to what you both have already either agreed to overtly, or by practice.
So... if it's not unusual for a few days to go without contact now, when he's in the same place as you, then it's ok when he's out of town.
If you typically hear from him daily, or more than once daily, when things are normal, then I think he's doubly "obligated" to make sure he stays in touch when he's out of town.
Not because you made him do it, but because that's what you already agreed to.
Now, if he's says he's going to an island without cell phone reception, that's one thing, but there's really no reason why he can't pick up the phone, type a few words, and hit send. If he's not doing it, he's choosing not to.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:07 PM (cY3LT)
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I don't have a cell phone.
I never had any success in relationships with women before cell phones, and I'd probably do even worse today with them. The possibilities for mistakes are much greater.
Cats. I do OK with cats. People, not so much.
I never had any success in relationships with women before cell phones, and I'd probably do even worse today with them. The possibilities for mistakes are much greater.
Cats. I do OK with cats. People, not so much.
Posted by: rickl at June 16, 2018 01:08 PM (sdi6R)
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221 This is why we can't have nice things.
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"Sounds like a nice thing to me."
- Every 'ron
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 16, 2018 01:01 PM (VgKNm)
Nice moron-like double entendre!
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"Sounds like a nice thing to me."
- Every 'ron
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 16, 2018 01:01 PM (VgKNm)
Nice moron-like double entendre!
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 01:09 PM (/TzhX)
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@214
Yes, Marg. I know I am clingy. I think that's why things have worked out so well so far, is I have been making a concerted effort to take a step back and not freak out on him.
It's really worked out that way. And, I had no intentions of contacting him beyond this point, and certainly not to send some crazy, "Where are you?!?!?!" message or something like that.
So, even though yes, I know I am clingy, and yes, I know I am freaking out.....I never let him see that. That's why I am on here spewing to you good people and not blowing up his phone like a nut.
Yes, Marg. I know I am clingy. I think that's why things have worked out so well so far, is I have been making a concerted effort to take a step back and not freak out on him.
It's really worked out that way. And, I had no intentions of contacting him beyond this point, and certainly not to send some crazy, "Where are you?!?!?!" message or something like that.
So, even though yes, I know I am clingy, and yes, I know I am freaking out.....I never let him see that. That's why I am on here spewing to you good people and not blowing up his phone like a nut.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 01:09 PM (TL2pK)
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Worry less about how often you hear from him and more about what it would take to make this relationship work.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 01:04 PM (Lqy/e)
I think worrying less is an excellent suggestion. Also, consider it to be relevant information, if, how, and when he is and isn't keeping in contact.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 01:04 PM (Lqy/e)
I think worrying less is an excellent suggestion. Also, consider it to be relevant information, if, how, and when he is and isn't keeping in contact.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:11 PM (cY3LT)
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Going from "He's having fun w/ his parents" to "He's doing it for spite" is a pretty big escalation at this point.
Or, No?
Or, No?
Posted by: dDan at June 16, 2018 01:11 PM (hwYmz)
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Watching my daughters the other night at a family gathering, and thinking they make a dandy argument for fatherhood.
Watching my daughters the other night at a family gathering, and thinking they make a dandy argument for fatherhood.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 16, 2018 01:11 PM (S/hVx)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2018 01:11 PM (n9EOP)
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Went to the movies with some pals for my bday yesterday....it was 'Five seasons" about a really brilliant gardener, a Dutch guy who designs amazing gardens using wild grasses as well as flowers. Awesome and affirming...but the previews all were for horrible, depressing, preachy, ranty SJW/AmericaSux/YayLGBTQ/oppressedwomen
propaganda.
These SJW's and Twitter/FB mobs are the modern equivalent of the nuns who'd say "How can you laugh when Christ died for your sins?" Soreheads and killjoys all.
propaganda.
These SJW's and Twitter/FB mobs are the modern equivalent of the nuns who'd say "How can you laugh when Christ died for your sins?" Soreheads and killjoys all.
Posted by: vivi at June 16, 2018 01:12 PM (11H2y)
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222---Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:01 PM (cY3LT)
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Good post --- i.e., informative and insightful for me.
Would it not still be a good informal rule for the male to initiate texting?
I'm talking about before you have a well-established relationship.
But then, what I call "well-established" may be obsolete.
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Good post --- i.e., informative and insightful for me.
Would it not still be a good informal rule for the male to initiate texting?
I'm talking about before you have a well-established relationship.
But then, what I call "well-established" may be obsolete.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2018 01:12 PM (0jtPF)
Posted by: Schneider at June 16, 2018 01:13 PM (Ncyf9)
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Good on ya'!
Good on ya'!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2018 01:14 PM (n9EOP)
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One day at a time isn't just for AA!
And by AA I mean Butt Stuff.
Posted by: Schneider at June 16, 2018 01:13 PM (Ncyf9)
This is why we can't have nice things!
And by AA I mean Butt Stuff.
Posted by: Schneider at June 16, 2018 01:13 PM (Ncyf9)
This is why we can't have nice things!
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 16, 2018 01:18 PM (n9EOP)
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Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:01 PM (cY3LT)
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Good post --- i.e., informative and insightful for me.
Would it not still be a good informal rule for the male to initiate texting?
I'm talking about before you have a well-established relationship.
But then, what I call "well-established" may be obsolete.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2018 01:12 PM (0jtPF)
Heh, that's the problem, the "rules" for relationships is such a complex, ever changing set of things!
So yeah, I think the simplified version for me is: Regarding our contact via phones and other devices, what are we doing now, what have we been doing?
If/when one or the other partner changes the situation, the burden SHOULD be on the changer to make it clear to the other person, how and why they're changing the "rules."
So... if you go out of town, and are spending days around your parents, and you decide you are NOT going to be texting your partner, even though you typically would, when you are in town, YOU have the duty to let her know that you aren't going to be contacting her for a few days.
If you don't, that's on you. And your partner is perfectly within reason to wonder why.
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Good post --- i.e., informative and insightful for me.
Would it not still be a good informal rule for the male to initiate texting?
I'm talking about before you have a well-established relationship.
But then, what I call "well-established" may be obsolete.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2018 01:12 PM (0jtPF)
Heh, that's the problem, the "rules" for relationships is such a complex, ever changing set of things!
So yeah, I think the simplified version for me is: Regarding our contact via phones and other devices, what are we doing now, what have we been doing?
If/when one or the other partner changes the situation, the burden SHOULD be on the changer to make it clear to the other person, how and why they're changing the "rules."
So... if you go out of town, and are spending days around your parents, and you decide you are NOT going to be texting your partner, even though you typically would, when you are in town, YOU have the duty to let her know that you aren't going to be contacting her for a few days.
If you don't, that's on you. And your partner is perfectly within reason to wonder why.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:18 PM (cY3LT)
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And I know this because I do: Lots of men play this game with the women in their lives. They know it drives them crazy, so they do it, SPECIFICALLY because it does.Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:01 PM (cY3LT)
Yes, I know someone who did this as a control issue. The woman is not in a relationship with that man anymore.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 01:03 PM (0/+vJ)
A lot of dating advice for young men specifically advises doing that kind of thing in an effort to appear "alpha." Feigning disinterest for fear of looking needy and thus having her decide you aren't worth keeping around is probably pretty common. Heck, half the dating advice here is boils down to "Women are crazy, don't be the 'nice guy.'"
TP's bf (like myself) managed to get to his mid-30s without having a girlfriend, and likely he is a little bewildered about how to proceed.
Yes, I know someone who did this as a control issue. The woman is not in a relationship with that man anymore.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 01:03 PM (0/+vJ)
A lot of dating advice for young men specifically advises doing that kind of thing in an effort to appear "alpha." Feigning disinterest for fear of looking needy and thus having her decide you aren't worth keeping around is probably pretty common. Heck, half the dating advice here is boils down to "Women are crazy, don't be the 'nice guy.'"
TP's bf (like myself) managed to get to his mid-30s without having a girlfriend, and likely he is a little bewildered about how to proceed.
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 16, 2018 01:19 PM (bZ7mE)
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I'm one of those who absolutely can not stand the incessant demands of phones, cellphones, texting, email --- absolutely exhausts me. My kids are pretty good and know that I won't talk to them unless I have something important to tell them. I see them often enough, although I have dismissed them occasionally with the 'naptime' excuse. See grandkids almost every day and they are easy because they aren't demanding some kind of affirmation, just hugs/food and keep them from absolute mayhem and death.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 16, 2018 01:23 PM (MIKMs)
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231---So, even though yes, I know I am clingy, and yes, I know I am freaking out.....I never let him see that. That's why I am on here spewing to you good people and not blowing up his phone like a nut.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 01:09 PM (TL2pK)
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Good for you!
But try to RELAX internally too.
You can't drastically change your basic personality but you can work on softening the edges.
The fact that you are self-aware means you're way ahead in that game!
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 01:09 PM (TL2pK)
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Good for you!
But try to RELAX internally too.
You can't drastically change your basic personality but you can work on softening the edges.
The fact that you are self-aware means you're way ahead in that game!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2018 01:24 PM (0jtPF)
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TP's bf (like myself) managed to get to his mid-30s without having a girlfriend, and likely he is a little bewildered about how to proceed.
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 16, 2018 01:19 PM (bZ7mE)
True. So my suggestion would be: Be clear, be honest, be specific. If the other person wants to see you as a chump, because you aren't suave enough to play the game, you're better off when you find that out and can walk away with your integrity intact.
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 16, 2018 01:19 PM (bZ7mE)
True. So my suggestion would be: Be clear, be honest, be specific. If the other person wants to see you as a chump, because you aren't suave enough to play the game, you're better off when you find that out and can walk away with your integrity intact.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:24 PM (cY3LT)
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TP's bf (like myself) managed to get to his mid-30s without having a girlfriend, and likely he is a little bewildered about how to proceed.
Yeah that happened to me as well. I was totally single until my early 30s and the women I dated had been married before. They knew all the rules and I was just figuring it out, but they didn't care for that so much.
Yeah that happened to me as well. I was totally single until my early 30s and the women I dated had been married before. They knew all the rules and I was just figuring it out, but they didn't care for that so much.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 01:27 PM (39g3+)
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I looked at it this way (because I'd been married for a long time before). In an established relationship, you worn off the rough spots and fit together. New relationship are about wearing down those rough spots so that you do fit together. In an established relationship, it's acceptable to let ypur partner know that you worry when you don't hear from them. In a new relationship, it sounds clingy. It does make you crazy, but you'll get past this stage if the relationship progresses.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 16, 2018 01:27 PM (Lqy/e)
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Feigning disinterest for fear of looking needy and thus having her decide you aren't worth keeping around is probably pretty common. Heck, half the dating advice here is boils down to "Women are crazy, don't be the 'nice guy.'"
Wow; I understand that advice-not to appear needy but I'm not on board with that advice' Thankfully I'm not on the dating scene.
I have a male friend-not boyfriend who wouldn't even return e-mails (I don't have his cell phone number and don't text him because I hate texting) when I wrote to say, I had been in the hospital although he4 would write back if I said something positive about him . No response-not even to say "I'm sorry things have been difficult or "I hope you;re feeling better now." This is not the first time this has happened. He's off my friend list and he would just look at me in a puzzled fashion-"what is your problem?" if I had said I was bothered by this.
Wow; I understand that advice-not to appear needy but I'm not on board with that advice' Thankfully I'm not on the dating scene.
I have a male friend-not boyfriend who wouldn't even return e-mails (I don't have his cell phone number and don't text him because I hate texting) when I wrote to say, I had been in the hospital although he4 would write back if I said something positive about him . No response-not even to say "I'm sorry things have been difficult or "I hope you;re feeling better now." This is not the first time this has happened. He's off my friend list and he would just look at me in a puzzled fashion-"what is your problem?" if I had said I was bothered by this.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 01:28 PM (0/+vJ)
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See grandkids almost every day and they are easy because they aren't demanding some kind of affirmation, just hugs/food and keep them from absolute mayhem and death.----
The keeping them from mayhem and death is a constant with my grandkids. So I love it when they arrive and I also love it when they go home.
The keeping them from mayhem and death is a constant with my grandkids. So I love it when they arrive and I also love it when they go home.
Posted by: X-ray at June 16, 2018 01:29 PM (9PW1S)
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@244
I'm getting there....slowly but surely.
Burt TC...
I am totally with you for the most part. I do wonder....if he is trying to make a point or test me, or he isn't replying to me for whatever reason, now seems like a really odd time to do it. The only message I can think of that he is trying to send is....when he's on vacation with his family...he's off limits.
Of course, maybe I AM the side chick like someone said. I really don't think I am. I would be shocked if he drove 7 hours each way for a side chick. But...crazier things have happened, I'm sure.
I'm getting there....slowly but surely.
Burt TC...
I am totally with you for the most part. I do wonder....if he is trying to make a point or test me, or he isn't replying to me for whatever reason, now seems like a really odd time to do it. The only message I can think of that he is trying to send is....when he's on vacation with his family...he's off limits.
Of course, maybe I AM the side chick like someone said. I really don't think I am. I would be shocked if he drove 7 hours each way for a side chick. But...crazier things have happened, I'm sure.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 01:31 PM (TL2pK)
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Hey, Tickled Pink, I suggest you get a copy of The Rules ASAP. Very helpful and practical advice. And no, don't text him, don't call him, keep busy, when you finally hear from him don't comment about getting in touch. After a discreet interval, book a weekend getaway with a few girlfriends out of town. It's really important for your own sake/good to have a life outside of this man/relationship.
Posted by: vivi at June 16, 2018 01:32 PM (11H2y)
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241---So... if you go out of town, and are spending days around your parents, and you decide you are NOT going to be texting your partner, even though you typically would, when you are in town, YOU have the duty to let her know that you aren't going to be contacting her for a few days.
If you don't, that's on you. And your partner is perfectly within reason to wonder why.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:18 PM (cY3LT)
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Makes sense, I guess.
Maybe this guy THOUGHT he was letting her know when he said he'd be spending time with his folks.
That's one thing that doesn't change, no matter the technology. Failure to be explicit. Implying, inferring, hinting, guessing. Heh.
A lot of unnecessary anguish comes from that.
If you don't, that's on you. And your partner is perfectly within reason to wonder why.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:18 PM (cY3LT)
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Makes sense, I guess.
Maybe this guy THOUGHT he was letting her know when he said he'd be spending time with his folks.
That's one thing that doesn't change, no matter the technology. Failure to be explicit. Implying, inferring, hinting, guessing. Heh.
A lot of unnecessary anguish comes from that.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2018 01:33 PM (0jtPF)
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Johnsonville Cornhole Championship on ESPN
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2018 01:35 PM (IqV8l)
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We have been getting biblical style rains since about 3 am.
It's awesome. This place is gonna glow like Jade for the next 2-3 weeks.
It's awesome. This place is gonna glow like Jade for the next 2-3 weeks.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 01:35 PM (Ncyf9)
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>> Johnsonville Cornhole Championship on ESPN
Hope Solo would be considered a Ringer at these games, no?
Hope Solo would be considered a Ringer at these games, no?
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 01:36 PM (Ncyf9)
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>>>254 We have been getting biblical style rains since about 3 am.
It's awesome. This place is gonna glow like Jade for the next 2-3 weeks.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 01:35 PM (Ncyf9)
Garden thread thataway!
It's awesome. This place is gonna glow like Jade for the next 2-3 weeks.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 01:35 PM (Ncyf9)
Garden thread thataway!
Posted by: m at June 16, 2018 01:36 PM (/TzhX)
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I'm trying a experiment today...
Tandoori Pork Ribs.
It sounded good in my head. I guess we'll see in a few hours.
Tandoori Pork Ribs.
It sounded good in my head. I guess we'll see in a few hours.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 16, 2018 01:38 PM (9q7Dl)
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250---Of course, maybe I AM the side chick like someone said. I really don't think I am. I would be shocked if he drove 7 hours each way for a side chick. But...crazier things have happened, I'm sure.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 01:31 PM (TL2pK)
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Sure, crazy things happen.
But seeing how neither of you are in Florida, the laws of probability are on your side. Bigly!
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 01:31 PM (TL2pK)
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Sure, crazy things happen.
But seeing how neither of you are in Florida, the laws of probability are on your side. Bigly!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2018 01:38 PM (0jtPF)
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The biggest barrier in every relationship that I've seen is that guys have their language and women have their language, so they end up using words and phrases that look the same on paper but mean totally different things.
If a woman says "fine, do what you want" it really means "I'm angry at you for your choice and want you to do what I say" but when a guy says that, it means he's stopped caring about the topic and is releasing you to do what you wish.
Men are good at disengaging; we're more strategic and direct in our thinking so when we say something its almost always exactly what we mean. Women are more cautious and guarded in their thinking so they tend to use code phrases or statements meant to deliver meaning without being specific or exact.
Its the difference between an approach toward life where you go straight at a problem and where you consider all the dangers and drawbacks before you act, and always are looking for an escape hatch, just in case.
For guys, this can seem deceptive or as if women are always looking for plausible deniability (I didn't say that, I said something sort of like it that you TOOK to mean that!)
For women, this is just being sensibly cautious because the world is big and dangerous and scary and you have few defenses. Its like going after that cheese in the trap, if you're careful you can get it without being hurt. But you always gotta keep your eye out for danger.
Guys find this incredibly frustrating because we're so direct. I want the cheese in the trap, so I'll spring it and walk away with the whole block.
Women find men confusing and are always looking for hidden meanings in what we say. "He said he likes my eyes, what does that really mean? Was he trying to avoid saying he doesn't like my nose? Does that mean I shouldn't wear glasses??"
Its not that guys are more honest than women, we're just as deceitful and crooked and lying, if not more so. Its just that we're more direct and lie about different stuff. And each of us are looking at each other as if we speak the same language, I think it takes decades of relationship and love before you figure it out and come to compromises.
If a woman says "fine, do what you want" it really means "I'm angry at you for your choice and want you to do what I say" but when a guy says that, it means he's stopped caring about the topic and is releasing you to do what you wish.
Men are good at disengaging; we're more strategic and direct in our thinking so when we say something its almost always exactly what we mean. Women are more cautious and guarded in their thinking so they tend to use code phrases or statements meant to deliver meaning without being specific or exact.
Its the difference between an approach toward life where you go straight at a problem and where you consider all the dangers and drawbacks before you act, and always are looking for an escape hatch, just in case.
For guys, this can seem deceptive or as if women are always looking for plausible deniability (I didn't say that, I said something sort of like it that you TOOK to mean that!)
For women, this is just being sensibly cautious because the world is big and dangerous and scary and you have few defenses. Its like going after that cheese in the trap, if you're careful you can get it without being hurt. But you always gotta keep your eye out for danger.
Guys find this incredibly frustrating because we're so direct. I want the cheese in the trap, so I'll spring it and walk away with the whole block.
Women find men confusing and are always looking for hidden meanings in what we say. "He said he likes my eyes, what does that really mean? Was he trying to avoid saying he doesn't like my nose? Does that mean I shouldn't wear glasses??"
Its not that guys are more honest than women, we're just as deceitful and crooked and lying, if not more so. Its just that we're more direct and lie about different stuff. And each of us are looking at each other as if we speak the same language, I think it takes decades of relationship and love before you figure it out and come to compromises.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2018 01:40 PM (39g3+)
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You're looking at it wrong. If there was another woman, SHE would be the side chick. My favorite song during that period was "You ain't woman enough to take my man".
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>>But seeing how neither of you are in Florida
Sorry I didn't text, honey.
I got your message. But after i threw that alligator through the drive-through window at Hardees, I got into a car chase.
Long story short, I ran out of gas somewhere in the Everglades and I had a menage with a couple of hot Highway Patrol Women.
How was your weekend?
Sorry I didn't text, honey.
I got your message. But after i threw that alligator through the drive-through window at Hardees, I got into a car chase.
Long story short, I ran out of gas somewhere in the Everglades and I had a menage with a couple of hot Highway Patrol Women.
How was your weekend?
Posted by: Florida Man at June 16, 2018 01:42 PM (Ncyf9)
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Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:18 PM (cY3LT)
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Makes sense, I guess.
Maybe this guy THOUGHT he was letting her know when he said he'd be spending time with his folks.
That's one thing that doesn't change, no matter the technology. Failure to be explicit. Implying, inferring, hinting, guessing. Heh.
A lot of unnecessary anguish comes from that.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2018 01:33 PM (0jtPF)
That's a VERY important point. He may have thought he was being clear, because he's operating by a set of rules that the two have not made clear.
So this is the kind of thing, when contact is re-established, it's worth bringing up.
So... TP, when you talk to him, again, not as an accusatory thing, but maybe a simple matter of clarifying for the both of you, under what circumstances would he expect to not be in contact, and if he's clear and consistent with that, then you two should be fine. If he gets defensive and angry, that's a good warning sign.
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Makes sense, I guess.
Maybe this guy THOUGHT he was letting her know when he said he'd be spending time with his folks.
That's one thing that doesn't change, no matter the technology. Failure to be explicit. Implying, inferring, hinting, guessing. Heh.
A lot of unnecessary anguish comes from that.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2018 01:33 PM (0jtPF)
That's a VERY important point. He may have thought he was being clear, because he's operating by a set of rules that the two have not made clear.
So this is the kind of thing, when contact is re-established, it's worth bringing up.
So... TP, when you talk to him, again, not as an accusatory thing, but maybe a simple matter of clarifying for the both of you, under what circumstances would he expect to not be in contact, and if he's clear and consistent with that, then you two should be fine. If he gets defensive and angry, that's a good warning sign.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:45 PM (cY3LT)
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Not sure I follow on the Florida thing?
For the most part things have been very smooth. We rarely argue. When we do get into the occasional squabble, we talk it out maturely, and it is usually resolved pretty quickly. We don't go to bed mad at each other.
This past week, I had had a rough week at work, and I guess I was a bit different than usual, and he asked if everything was okay...several times actually. Then, he said he was getting into his own head (yes, he gets into his own head too apparently) and his imagination was causing him to struggle. When I asked him to elaborate, he said he figured that I had decided I no longer wanted to continue with our relationship and just wanted to wait till I see him to let him down in person. Obviously, he was wrong and I told him so.
He and I are very much alike in some ways, for sure.
Not sure I follow on the Florida thing?
For the most part things have been very smooth. We rarely argue. When we do get into the occasional squabble, we talk it out maturely, and it is usually resolved pretty quickly. We don't go to bed mad at each other.
This past week, I had had a rough week at work, and I guess I was a bit different than usual, and he asked if everything was okay...several times actually. Then, he said he was getting into his own head (yes, he gets into his own head too apparently) and his imagination was causing him to struggle. When I asked him to elaborate, he said he figured that I had decided I no longer wanted to continue with our relationship and just wanted to wait till I see him to let him down in person. Obviously, he was wrong and I told him so.
He and I are very much alike in some ways, for sure.
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How was your weekend?
Posted by: Florida Man at June 16, 2018 01:42 PM (Ncyf9)
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I knew without even looking at the hash that this was you, garrett. LOL.
TickledPink, I usually avoid these kinds of discussions here, but I agree with vivi up in #251. For your own sake, find yourself something else to do so you don't wind yourself up about this. Don't read anything into not hearing from him. I have two sons and one daughter that hardly ever look at their phones, and two daughters who always have it on them. People are different.
One of the things I really liked about my husband when I first started dating him was that he was really chill. And he appreciated the same about me. That did not mean a lack of interest in any way! Neither one of us could stand a clinger, and both of us had dated people like that before so we knew it wasn't for us.
Be yourself, but let him be himself. Don't hassle him about not hearing from him. It might well be he is being a good son and paying attention to his parents while they are on vacation and doesn't even have his phone on.
Posted by: Florida Man at June 16, 2018 01:42 PM (Ncyf9)
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I knew without even looking at the hash that this was you, garrett. LOL.
TickledPink, I usually avoid these kinds of discussions here, but I agree with vivi up in #251. For your own sake, find yourself something else to do so you don't wind yourself up about this. Don't read anything into not hearing from him. I have two sons and one daughter that hardly ever look at their phones, and two daughters who always have it on them. People are different.
One of the things I really liked about my husband when I first started dating him was that he was really chill. And he appreciated the same about me. That did not mean a lack of interest in any way! Neither one of us could stand a clinger, and both of us had dated people like that before so we knew it wasn't for us.
Be yourself, but let him be himself. Don't hassle him about not hearing from him. It might well be he is being a good son and paying attention to his parents while they are on vacation and doesn't even have his phone on.
Posted by: bluebell at June 16, 2018 01:49 PM (rhdgT)
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For your own sake, find yourself something else to do so you don't wind yourself up about this. Don't read anything into not hearing from him.
Posted by: bluebell at June 16, 2018 01:49 PM (rhdgT)
Good suggestion, not getting wound up. However, reading into it, I would agree not to read into it anything that isn't already apparent about the relationship, but if you know each other well, and she seems to be saying here that they do, then the evidence of what each of you do is relevant, and should be taken seriously.
Earlier in the week, he was questioning her as to whether her behavior was an indication of her wanting out of the relationship.
That's meaningful information.
And now he's not responding with a simple text. That is also meaningful information. Those two facts, while not in ANY way conclusive, are meaningful.
Posted by: bluebell at June 16, 2018 01:49 PM (rhdgT)
Good suggestion, not getting wound up. However, reading into it, I would agree not to read into it anything that isn't already apparent about the relationship, but if you know each other well, and she seems to be saying here that they do, then the evidence of what each of you do is relevant, and should be taken seriously.
Earlier in the week, he was questioning her as to whether her behavior was an indication of her wanting out of the relationship.
That's meaningful information.
And now he's not responding with a simple text. That is also meaningful information. Those two facts, while not in ANY way conclusive, are meaningful.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:57 PM (cY3LT)
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Howdy, Mr. garrett! How's lovely Montana? Have I told you that my nephew is a straight-A engineering student at Montana State? He loves it. Goes fishing when he's not engineering.
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And now he's not responding with a simple text. That is also meaningful information. Those two facts, while not in ANY way conclusive, are meaningful.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:57 PM (cY3LT)
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Maybe, but with all due respect to both you and Miss Pink, I don't think they know each other well, at least by my definition.
As for the text thing, it's a standing joke in my family that my husband is horrible, HORRIBLE, about returning text messages, or even looking at them, which is really the root of the problem. I rarely try to reach him during the day because I know he is really busy. But every once in a while I will need to, so I will try to call, email, and send a text message, usually to no avail, lol. So he will respond to a text that I sent him at 3:00 asking what time he thought he'd be home by texting me at 9:00 "about an hour and a half ago."
How can I get mad at that? Of course I just laugh!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 01:57 PM (cY3LT)
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Maybe, but with all due respect to both you and Miss Pink, I don't think they know each other well, at least by my definition.
As for the text thing, it's a standing joke in my family that my husband is horrible, HORRIBLE, about returning text messages, or even looking at them, which is really the root of the problem. I rarely try to reach him during the day because I know he is really busy. But every once in a while I will need to, so I will try to call, email, and send a text message, usually to no avail, lol. So he will respond to a text that I sent him at 3:00 asking what time he thought he'd be home by texting me at 9:00 "about an hour and a half ago."
How can I get mad at that? Of course I just laugh!
Posted by: bluebell at June 16, 2018 02:05 PM (rhdgT)
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That's really funny, Bluebell.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 02:06 PM (0/+vJ)
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Oh my gosh!!!
Now, I really am going to be wound up.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 02:04 PM (TL2pK)
Just so we're clear, when I say "meaningful information," I am NOT saying he's done with the relationship. In fact, I think the most likely scenario, given these two facts, is that he's just not terribly skilled at this relationship communication thing.
Which is a very solvable problem. And you already know how to solve it.
Now, I really am going to be wound up.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 02:04 PM (TL2pK)
Just so we're clear, when I say "meaningful information," I am NOT saying he's done with the relationship. In fact, I think the most likely scenario, given these two facts, is that he's just not terribly skilled at this relationship communication thing.
Which is a very solvable problem. And you already know how to solve it.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 02:07 PM (cY3LT)
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Shakespeare was a playwright, ie. his plays are primarily meant to be entertainment. If he were alive today, he'd be writing sitcoms. Maybe there shouldn't be such a thing as an English major. Might as well be a Fonzie major. Not sure how serious I am about that. Never really cared for Shakespeare, the immortal bore.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 16, 2018 02:09 PM (/qEW2)
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Fen, like I said, it's a family joke. We all make fun of him in the family group chat and that just encourages him!
Once when my daughter was in college and just had a flip phone, she texted my husband and me to tell us she got an A on a test she had been really worried about. I wrote back "congrats" right away.
On her flip phone, it just showed texts in chronological order, not grouped by sender, so when her dad texted back "That's great" five days later she had no idea what that was referring to and called me to see what she was missing.
Once when my daughter was in college and just had a flip phone, she texted my husband and me to tell us she got an A on a test she had been really worried about. I wrote back "congrats" right away.
On her flip phone, it just showed texts in chronological order, not grouped by sender, so when her dad texted back "That's great" five days later she had no idea what that was referring to and called me to see what she was missing.
Posted by: bluebell at June 16, 2018 02:09 PM (rhdgT)
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Not sure I follow on the Florida thing?
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 01:48 PM (TL2pK)
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I'm just ragging on the wild and crazy things we hear about Floridians!
In any case, it sounds as if the two of you need to find a way to be reassuring and clear --- without pressuring each other.
BurtTC seems to have a pretty good handle on how to do this in the modern age.
Not sure I follow on the Florida thing?
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 01:48 PM (TL2pK)
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I'm just ragging on the wild and crazy things we hear about Floridians!
In any case, it sounds as if the two of you need to find a way to be reassuring and clear --- without pressuring each other.
BurtTC seems to have a pretty good handle on how to do this in the modern age.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 16, 2018 02:12 PM (0jtPF)
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 02:12 PM (9Vmwd)
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Maybe, but with all due respect to both you and Miss Pink, I don't think they know each other well, at least by my definition.
As for the text thing, it's a standing joke in my family that my husband is horrible, HORRIBLE, about returning text messages, or even looking at them, which is really the root of the problem. I rarely try to reach him during the day because I know he is really busy. But every once in a while I will need to, so I will try to call, email, and send a text message, usually to no avail, lol. So he will respond to a text that I sent him at 3:00 asking what time he thought he'd be home by texting me at 9:00 "about an hour and a half ago."
How can I get mad at that? Of course I just laugh!
Posted by: bluebell at June 16, 2018 02:05 PM (rhdgT)
You are correct, of course. Any dating couple has only a fraction of information that a long term married couple has. The information they do have though, is important to note, and all of us accumulate this type of information all the time, for a variety of relationships. It's just necessary to sort and catalog the information we have, and not "misfile" stuff to the extent that we can.
And of course, if you know your husband is not going to respond to your multimedia attempts to reach him, that is indeed, not the problem. There may not even BE a problem, if the two of you both know it, and have more or less accepted that's how it's going to be.
As for the text thing, it's a standing joke in my family that my husband is horrible, HORRIBLE, about returning text messages, or even looking at them, which is really the root of the problem. I rarely try to reach him during the day because I know he is really busy. But every once in a while I will need to, so I will try to call, email, and send a text message, usually to no avail, lol. So he will respond to a text that I sent him at 3:00 asking what time he thought he'd be home by texting me at 9:00 "about an hour and a half ago."
How can I get mad at that? Of course I just laugh!
Posted by: bluebell at June 16, 2018 02:05 PM (rhdgT)
You are correct, of course. Any dating couple has only a fraction of information that a long term married couple has. The information they do have though, is important to note, and all of us accumulate this type of information all the time, for a variety of relationships. It's just necessary to sort and catalog the information we have, and not "misfile" stuff to the extent that we can.
And of course, if you know your husband is not going to respond to your multimedia attempts to reach him, that is indeed, not the problem. There may not even BE a problem, if the two of you both know it, and have more or less accepted that's how it's going to be.
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Posted by: bluebell at June 16, 2018 02:09 PM (rhdgT)
Yes, if everybody knows that a family member is like that it's good for a send up. if you don't know the person and don't really know their communication style or if they're just insensitive narcissist (I'm NOT saying this friend of Ticked Pink is) it makes it difficult. I actually think modern technology can make relationships more difficult if people expect an immediate reply. I had a colleague who said on his answering machine-before celll phones "I will call you back within 24 hours"
Yes, if everybody knows that a family member is like that it's good for a send up. if you don't know the person and don't really know their communication style or if they're just insensitive narcissist (I'm NOT saying this friend of Ticked Pink is) it makes it difficult. I actually think modern technology can make relationships more difficult if people expect an immediate reply. I had a colleague who said on his answering machine-before celll phones "I will call you back within 24 hours"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 02:14 PM (0/+vJ)
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Phil hit a putt that was about to go down the hill so he literally jogged over to it and hit it back towards the hole while it was still rolling down the hill.
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 02:15 PM (9Vmwd)
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I guess that's allowed, huh?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 02:16 PM (0/+vJ)
Supposedly a two stroke penalty. ALL the announcers were stunned.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 02:16 PM (0/+vJ)
Supposedly a two stroke penalty. ALL the announcers were stunned.
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 02:18 PM (9Vmwd)
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Phil hit a putt that was about to go down the hill so he literally jogged over to it and hit it back towards the hole while it was still rolling down the hill.
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 02:15 PM (9Vmwd)
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Seriously? Is that disqualification or just a penalty?
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 02:15 PM (9Vmwd)
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Seriously? Is that disqualification or just a penalty?
Posted by: WisRich at June 16, 2018 02:19 PM (OAlmw)
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Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 02:15 PM (9Vmwd)
I guess that's allowed, huh?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 02:16 PM (0/+vJ)
Almost like the old Rodney Dangerfield joke: I went to a golf match, and a hockey game broke out!
I guess that's allowed, huh?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2018 02:16 PM (0/+vJ)
Almost like the old Rodney Dangerfield joke: I went to a golf match, and a hockey game broke out!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 02:19 PM (cY3LT)
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I can't speak for all guys, but I personally despise talking on the phone. I have good friends that are nearly brothers who I would drop everything and drive/fly immediately to do whatever they needed and I only talk talk to them on the phone once or twice a year (if that).
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 16, 2018 12:21 PM (VgKNm)
My man. I hate talking on the phone also, and also do exactly the same thing with lifelong friends.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 16, 2018 12:21 PM (VgKNm)
My man. I hate talking on the phone also, and also do exactly the same thing with lifelong friends.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 16, 2018 02:21 PM (m0x+Z)
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>>>Phil hit a putt that was about to go down the hill so he literally jogged over to it and hit it back towards the hole while it was still rolling down the hill.
So, a mulligan? That's not that outrageous.
So, a mulligan? That's not that outrageous.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 16, 2018 02:21 PM (/qEW2)
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As for the text thing, it's a standing joke in my family that my husband is horrible, HORRIBLE, about returning text messages, or even looking at them, which is really the root of the problem. I rarely try to reach him during the day because I know he is really busy. But every once in a while I will need to, so I will try to call, email, and send a text message, usually to no avail, lol. So he will respond to a text that I sent him at 3:00 asking what time he thought he'd be home by texting me at 9:00 "about an hour and a half ago."
How can I get mad at that? Of course I just laugh!
Posted by: bluebell at June 16, 2018 02:05 PM (rhdgT)
That's me and Mrs. Cop -- 99% of the time, I'm unavailable at work and if she leaves a message on my phone, I find it when I'm going home. Then I will call her and she's almost always made a decision regarding whatever it was she called about in the first place.
How can I get mad at that? Of course I just laugh!
Posted by: bluebell at June 16, 2018 02:05 PM (rhdgT)
That's me and Mrs. Cop -- 99% of the time, I'm unavailable at work and if she leaves a message on my phone, I find it when I'm going home. Then I will call her and she's almost always made a decision regarding whatever it was she called about in the first place.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 16, 2018 02:22 PM (5Yee7)
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Three (tagged) Great White Sharks detected off of the backside of Orleans and Wellfleet in the last few days. I'm figuring I can swim today and tomorrow before they reach my corner of the Bay. I liked it better in the days before transponders and spotters, where you just didn't know what was out there.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 16, 2018 02:22 PM (l14X/)
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I think the issue is this guy has been pretty much the most consistently communicative guy I have ever dated/been with. Sometimes we don't talk much. Sometimes we do. But...I always know if I message him, he will message me back. And, I always know he will message me at some point during the day.
Heck, last Sunday, we talked on the phone for 4 and a half hours, followed up by 5 more hours of texting. So, if Monday was a light day, I was completely cool with that.
I think it's when a guy is so consistent...it makes the inconsistencies that much harder to take, if that makes any sense.
Heck, last Sunday, we talked on the phone for 4 and a half hours, followed up by 5 more hours of texting. So, if Monday was a light day, I was completely cool with that.
I think it's when a guy is so consistent...it makes the inconsistencies that much harder to take, if that makes any sense.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 02:23 PM (TL2pK)
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My clients know better than to bring a cellphone to their lessons.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 16, 2018 02:24 PM (usRhr)
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OT:
I'm trying to wrap my head around the latest Fresh Pope Frankie pronunciation. He sez abortion is like what the German Nazis did.
Sounds great... right?
Concentration camps, the active killing of innocents and all that.
Except, no, that's not what he was talking about. He was talking about the Nazi eugenics programs.
Really Frank? That's what you're going to compare it to?
He's just so slimy. That one.
I'm trying to wrap my head around the latest Fresh Pope Frankie pronunciation. He sez abortion is like what the German Nazis did.
Sounds great... right?
Concentration camps, the active killing of innocents and all that.
Except, no, that's not what he was talking about. He was talking about the Nazi eugenics programs.
Really Frank? That's what you're going to compare it to?
He's just so slimy. That one.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 02:24 PM (cY3LT)
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You guys ever take one of those naps where you don't even feel tired at all and then wake up two and a half hours and several vivid dreams later somehow? Me neither. I have no idea what you mean.
Also who tied my shoelaces together. Serious you guys, not cool.
Also who tied my shoelaces together. Serious you guys, not cool.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 16, 2018 02:24 PM (fZuhk)
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He got a 9 on the par 4.
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 02:25 PM (9Vmwd)
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I think it's when a guy is so consistent...it makes the inconsistencies that much harder to take, if that makes any sense.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 02:23 PM (TL2pK)
Yes, that makes sense.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 02:23 PM (TL2pK)
Yes, that makes sense.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 02:27 PM (cY3LT)
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Rookie mistake, can happen to anyone.
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2018 02:28 PM (pHfeF)
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He got a 9 on the par 4.
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 02:25 PM (9Vmwd)
He's doing much better than I thought.
I don't follow golf, and I thought he was dead, so.....
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 02:25 PM (9Vmwd)
He's doing much better than I thought.
I don't follow golf, and I thought he was dead, so.....
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 02:28 PM (cY3LT)
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>>Have I told you that my nephew is a straight-A engineering student at Montana State? He loves it. Goes fishing when he's not engineering.
Well...
you should probably tell him to get in touch with me if he ever wants to go fish. I'm willing to row anyone who isn't a douchebag.
Well...
you should probably tell him to get in touch with me if he ever wants to go fish. I'm willing to row anyone who isn't a douchebag.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 02:28 PM (Ncyf9)
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"Think of Marx as a symptom of a more fundamental shift in weltanshauung with roots in the Enlightenment, and you will get closer to what I was thinking of.
Posted by: Grey Fox
I'm not well read on "The Enlightenment" ... so can't identify "the shift from ruling via force and punishment to seeing the nation as a body with various illnesses that needed healing." Of course the "sin nature" of man is as old as Adam and eve, but using government to "heal" sounds more like an excuse for brute force, replacing individual "enilghtenment" via personal study and "diverse" communities of belief.
The dehumanization of the individual and his liberty allows the brute force people to treat us as animals, or guinea pigs for the central powers' experiments. The idea you present sounds interesting, on that shift predating Marx.
Posted by: Grey Fox
I'm not well read on "The Enlightenment" ... so can't identify "the shift from ruling via force and punishment to seeing the nation as a body with various illnesses that needed healing." Of course the "sin nature" of man is as old as Adam and eve, but using government to "heal" sounds more like an excuse for brute force, replacing individual "enilghtenment" via personal study and "diverse" communities of belief.
The dehumanization of the individual and his liberty allows the brute force people to treat us as animals, or guinea pigs for the central powers' experiments. The idea you present sounds interesting, on that shift predating Marx.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 16, 2018 02:30 PM (bT8Z4)
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Watching Bridge Over the River Kwai, it is a great movie with hardly any historical accuracy, yes there was a war, and British and Japanese soldiers were in it, thats about it.
Posted by: Skip at June 16, 2018 02:30 PM (pHfeF)
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I find myself wondering if maybe he is upset with me after all. The last point of our conversation was how intrusive my mom is into my life. And it really made him upset, because while my mom and I were visiting my sister, I went to Target and bought some stuff, and when I got back, I placed my bag on the kitchen island.
And, sure enough, my mom goes digging through it, finding some....delicates that I had bought for my trip, which is neither here nor there. Anyway, I told him about it, and he was livid. The last thing he said to me was "FFS you're a grown woman."
So....maybe he is more upset with me....or the situation than I realized at the time. Or maybe he just got caught up with family.
And, sure enough, my mom goes digging through it, finding some....delicates that I had bought for my trip, which is neither here nor there. Anyway, I told him about it, and he was livid. The last thing he said to me was "FFS you're a grown woman."
So....maybe he is more upset with me....or the situation than I realized at the time. Or maybe he just got caught up with family.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 02:31 PM (TL2pK)
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I'm willing to row anyone who isn't a douchebag.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 02:28 PM (Ncyf9)
Well, they keep us alive to serve the ship.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 02:28 PM (Ncyf9)
Well, they keep us alive to serve the ship.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 16, 2018 02:33 PM (fZuhk)
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254 We have been getting biblical style rains since about 3 am.
It's awesome. This place is gonna glow like Jade for the next 2-3 weeks.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 01:35 PM (Ncyf9
Will the rain mess up the chicks or have they been hatched a while?
It's awesome. This place is gonna glow like Jade for the next 2-3 weeks.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 01:35 PM (Ncyf9
Will the rain mess up the chicks or have they been hatched a while?
Posted by: clutch at June 16, 2018 02:35 PM (kiSdp)
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garrett, I mean upland chicks, not human. I just read you live in MT.
Posted by: clutch at June 16, 2018 02:36 PM (kiSdp)
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Is this the dating advice thread? *hic*
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at June 16, 2018 02:37 PM (Tyii7)
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Changed Phil's score from 9 to 10.
Posted by: weirdflunky at June 16, 2018 02:38 PM (9Vmwd)
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> Heck, last Sunday, we talked on the phone for 4 and a half hours, followed up by 5 more hours of texting.
That's my phone time for per month.
That's my phone time for per month.
Posted by: A typical guy at June 16, 2018 02:39 PM (qbOvx)
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Well...
you should probably tell him to get in touch with me if he ever wants to go fish. I'm willing to row anyone who isn't a douchebag.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 02:28 PM (Ncyf9)
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Well, he comes from a conservative family from Washington state, so he probably meets your criteria!
TickledPink, I would just offer that perhaps you should think about how much you should share with him at this early point in your relationship, and also this advice (worth every penny you're paying for it) that I give my kids: don't worry about things that you can do nothing about for now, because that's just going to bring you heartburn. Turn your attention elsewhere for the time being. Let him enjoy his vacation with his folks. You'll know soon enough whether there is something wrong, but in the meantime, don't let yourself make mountains out of molehills. Because that's not going to change anything, except to make you crazy.
you should probably tell him to get in touch with me if he ever wants to go fish. I'm willing to row anyone who isn't a douchebag.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 02:28 PM (Ncyf9)
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Well, he comes from a conservative family from Washington state, so he probably meets your criteria!
TickledPink, I would just offer that perhaps you should think about how much you should share with him at this early point in your relationship, and also this advice (worth every penny you're paying for it) that I give my kids: don't worry about things that you can do nothing about for now, because that's just going to bring you heartburn. Turn your attention elsewhere for the time being. Let him enjoy his vacation with his folks. You'll know soon enough whether there is something wrong, but in the meantime, don't let yourself make mountains out of molehills. Because that's not going to change anything, except to make you crazy.
Posted by: bluebell at June 16, 2018 02:40 PM (rhdgT)
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>>garrett, I mean upland chicks, not human.
Everything on the East side of the Divide had a ROUGH Winter / Spring.
I imagine there will be only one clutch this year. Thankfully no late freezes. But snow and rain aplenty.
Everything on the East side of the Divide had a ROUGH Winter / Spring.
I imagine there will be only one clutch this year. Thankfully no late freezes. But snow and rain aplenty.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 02:41 PM (Ncyf9)
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TickledPink at June 16, 2018 02:31 PM (TL2pK)
How does it feel to be pawned, y'all?
Remind anyone of Stuck of Stupid?
How does it feel to be pawned, y'all?
Remind anyone of Stuck of Stupid?
Posted by: so funny at June 16, 2018 02:42 PM (fWdPl)
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That's my phone time for per month.
Posted by: A typical guy at June 16, 2018 02:39 PM (qbOvx)
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That's my phone time for the year.
Posted by: A typical guy at June 16, 2018 02:39 PM (qbOvx)
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That's my phone time for the year.
Posted by: bluebell at June 16, 2018 02:42 PM (rhdgT)
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Bridge on the River Kwai on TCM.
I have something for both the Movie thread and the Book thread. I'm reading The Jungle is Neutral, Frederick Spencer Chapman's account of how he stayed behind when the Japs overran Malaya and Singapore to spend four years in the jungle organizing his own guerilla army of the locals to harass and befuddle the invaders. He literally drove out of Singapore in a big ass Pontiac loaded with plastique and assorted toys After the war he returned to teaching.
Earlier this week a light bulb went off and I thought he must have been the inspiration for Jack Hawkins' wonderful Major Warden in Kwai -- the Oxford don turned crazed commando, but couldn't find any official attribution.
Now I watch Kwai and there's a minor uncredited role for a Brit named Chapman who gets killed when he lands in the trees in the parachute jump.
I have something for both the Movie thread and the Book thread. I'm reading The Jungle is Neutral, Frederick Spencer Chapman's account of how he stayed behind when the Japs overran Malaya and Singapore to spend four years in the jungle organizing his own guerilla army of the locals to harass and befuddle the invaders. He literally drove out of Singapore in a big ass Pontiac loaded with plastique and assorted toys After the war he returned to teaching.
Earlier this week a light bulb went off and I thought he must have been the inspiration for Jack Hawkins' wonderful Major Warden in Kwai -- the Oxford don turned crazed commando, but couldn't find any official attribution.
Now I watch Kwai and there's a minor uncredited role for a Brit named Chapman who gets killed when he lands in the trees in the parachute jump.
Posted by: Zombie Marilyn Monroe at June 16, 2018 02:43 PM (pV/54)
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Off damn soc
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2018 02:43 PM (pV/54)
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> Heck, last Sunday, we talked on the phone for 4 and a half hours, followed up by 5 more hours of texting.
That's my phone time for per month.
Posted by: A typical guy at June 16, 2018 02:39 PM (qbOvx)
What could there possibly be to talk about that takes up 4.5 hours.
That's my phone time for per month.
Posted by: A typical guy at June 16, 2018 02:39 PM (qbOvx)
What could there possibly be to talk about that takes up 4.5 hours.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 16, 2018 02:44 PM (fZuhk)
Posted by: clutch at June 16, 2018 02:45 PM (kiSdp)
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@305
Yeah....for better or for worse, we are pretty open with each other.
Last week on our phone call (which by the way, our phone calls are typically not that long just FYI), I had to pee and I told him so, and he was fine with it, rather than me putting him on mute for a minute and a half.
But, I just sort of made light of the Mom situation, joked about her clutching her pearls and stuff like that, but I think maybe he thinks I should have been more upset about it than I was.
Anyway, yeah, I probably need to get some work done, and then have a party tomorrow, so...we'll see.
Yeah....for better or for worse, we are pretty open with each other.
Last week on our phone call (which by the way, our phone calls are typically not that long just FYI), I had to pee and I told him so, and he was fine with it, rather than me putting him on mute for a minute and a half.
But, I just sort of made light of the Mom situation, joked about her clutching her pearls and stuff like that, but I think maybe he thinks I should have been more upset about it than I was.
Anyway, yeah, I probably need to get some work done, and then have a party tomorrow, so...we'll see.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 02:46 PM (TL2pK)
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I have something for both the Movie thread and the Book thread. I'm reading The Jungle is Neutral, Frederick Spencer Chapman's account of how he stayed behind when the Japs overran Malaya and Singapore to spend four years in the jungle organizing his own guerilla army of the locals to harass and befuddle the invaders.
Posted by: Zombie Marilyn Monroe at June 16, 2018 02:43 PM (pV/54)
I love that book so much. How many bouts of debilitating week-long coma malaria has he had so far?
Posted by: Zombie Marilyn Monroe at June 16, 2018 02:43 PM (pV/54)
I love that book so much. How many bouts of debilitating week-long coma malaria has he had so far?
Posted by: hogmartin at June 16, 2018 02:46 PM (fZuhk)
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I find myself wondering if maybe he is upset with me after all. The last point of our conversation was how intrusive my mom is into my life. And it really made him upset, because while my mom and I were visiting my sister, I went to Target and bought some stuff, and when I got back, I placed my bag on the kitchen island.
And, sure enough, my mom goes digging through it, finding some....delicates that I had bought for my trip, which is neither here nor there. Anyway, I told him about it, and he was livid. The last thing he said to me was "FFS you're a grown woman."
So....maybe he is more upset with me....or the situation than I realized at the time. Or maybe he just got caught up with family.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 02:31 PM (TL2pK)
Sometimes people get angry the most about things that are already bothering them... about themselves.
If he's angry about how your mom is intrusive, AND he's not letting his parents know you exist.....
However, think of it this way, if that's what this is about, then it really doesn't have anything to do with you. It's about his relationship with HIS parents.
And, sure enough, my mom goes digging through it, finding some....delicates that I had bought for my trip, which is neither here nor there. Anyway, I told him about it, and he was livid. The last thing he said to me was "FFS you're a grown woman."
So....maybe he is more upset with me....or the situation than I realized at the time. Or maybe he just got caught up with family.
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 02:31 PM (TL2pK)
Sometimes people get angry the most about things that are already bothering them... about themselves.
If he's angry about how your mom is intrusive, AND he's not letting his parents know you exist.....
However, think of it this way, if that's what this is about, then it really doesn't have anything to do with you. It's about his relationship with HIS parents.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 16, 2018 02:47 PM (cY3LT)
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>>Hun numbers will be down?
Likely not. Those goofy birds LOVE the snow. Unless we get a freeze at the end of the rains this week.
I have seen it happen as late as the 26th.
But. Birds tend to cycle and the last 3-4 years have been pretty damn good.
Likely not. Those goofy birds LOVE the snow. Unless we get a freeze at the end of the rains this week.
I have seen it happen as late as the 26th.
But. Birds tend to cycle and the last 3-4 years have been pretty damn good.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 02:48 PM (Ncyf9)
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at June 16, 2018 02:49 PM (Tyii7)
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@311
Philosophical topics some.
But, mostly food and sex. And, are there two finer topics in the world than food and sex?
Philosophical topics some.
But, mostly food and sex. And, are there two finer topics in the world than food and sex?
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 02:50 PM (TL2pK)
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308 That's my phone time for per month.
Posted by: A typical guy at June 16, 2018 02:39 PM (qbOvx)
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That's my phone time for the year.
Posted by: bluebell
I was being generous, including weekly hour long conference calls. I don't "do" texts at all...
Posted by: A typical guy at June 16, 2018 02:39 PM (qbOvx)
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That's my phone time for the year.
Posted by: bluebell
I was being generous, including weekly hour long conference calls. I don't "do" texts at all...
Posted by: A typical guy at June 16, 2018 02:50 PM (qbOvx)
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Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 02:48 PM (Ncyf9)
Thanks, my GSP will be 13 this fall and he has one more hunt in him. My young Pointer needs the exposure to birds. MT is an option.
Thanks, my GSP will be 13 this fall and he has one more hunt in him. My young Pointer needs the exposure to birds. MT is an option.
Posted by: clutch at June 16, 2018 02:51 PM (kiSdp)
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311 > Heck, last Sunday, we talked on the phone for 4 and a half hours, followed up by 5 more hours of texting.
That's my phone time for per month.
Posted by: A typical guy at June 16, 2018 02:39 PM (qbOvx)
What could there possibly be to talk about that takes up 4.5 hours.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 16, 2018 02:44 PM (fZuhk)
Cocaine is a hellova drug.
That's my phone time for per month.
Posted by: A typical guy at June 16, 2018 02:39 PM (qbOvx)
What could there possibly be to talk about that takes up 4.5 hours.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 16, 2018 02:44 PM (fZuhk)
Cocaine is a hellova drug.
Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 16, 2018 02:52 PM (TA9CI)
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Dear Penthouse Forum...
Dear Tent revival ...
Dear Words that offend me ...
Dear There must be another site that you can go to ...
I miss the begin slitting throats of years gone by.
Dear Tent revival ...
Dear Words that offend me ...
Dear There must be another site that you can go to ...
I miss the begin slitting throats of years gone by.
Posted by: so funny at June 16, 2018 02:54 PM (fWdPl)
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But, mostly food and sex. And, are there two finer topics in the world than food and sex?
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 02:50 PM (TL2pK)
Is cheese a kind of food?
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 02:50 PM (TL2pK)
Is cheese a kind of food?
Posted by: hogmartin at June 16, 2018 02:54 PM (fZuhk)
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Just started Jungle is Neutral. I'm also in the middle of Quartered Safe Out Here -- Flashman George MacDonald Fraser's account of service in the Burma campaign.
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2018 02:55 PM (pV/54)
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I stayed at my relatives for a few days when I was 13, and my 13-year old girl cousin spent eight hours on the phone with a friend who lived two blocks away. She was on the kitchen phone, which helped. School was about to start, you see, so there was a lot to talk about,
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 16, 2018 02:58 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: TickledPink at June 16, 2018 03:00 PM (TL2pK)
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One of the color options for the 2009 Versys was "candy plasma blue".
Who comes up with these names. Do they have fond memories of going to grandma's house when they were little and getting a piece of candy plasma if they were well-behaved? "Candy plasma" doesn't sound delicious at all.
Who comes up with these names. Do they have fond memories of going to grandma's house when they were little and getting a piece of candy plasma if they were well-behaved? "Candy plasma" doesn't sound delicious at all.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 16, 2018 03:02 PM (fZuhk)
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Pet thread is NOOD.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 16, 2018 03:02 PM (/qEW2)
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>>Thanks, my GSP will be 13 this fall and he has one more hunt in him. My young Pointer needs the exposure to birds. MT is an option.
You coming from the East or the West?
You coming from the East or the West?
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 03:09 PM (Ncyf9)
Posted by: clutch at June 16, 2018 03:09 PM (kiSdp)
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Christopher, if you're still here:
I realize you were speaking generally, of course, but some women are as direct as men, and just as confused by the "talking around" and code phrases. And appreciate men's directness.
If I may use myself as an example, a couple of decades ago my husband told me skirts made me look quite a bit heavier (not that I've ever been skinny since childhood!). I thought about it a bit (yeah, I was kinda hurt at first), then decided he'd done me a favor, and -- simply switched to slacks all the time.
Direct, useful information, a bit of brief hurt but no anger, and a previously unknown problem solved. I was actually grateful. I say what I mean, and mean what I say, and appreciate others who do the same. Which is probably why I've become so fond of Trump.
I realize you were speaking generally, of course, but some women are as direct as men, and just as confused by the "talking around" and code phrases. And appreciate men's directness.
If I may use myself as an example, a couple of decades ago my husband told me skirts made me look quite a bit heavier (not that I've ever been skinny since childhood!). I thought about it a bit (yeah, I was kinda hurt at first), then decided he'd done me a favor, and -- simply switched to slacks all the time.
Direct, useful information, a bit of brief hurt but no anger, and a previously unknown problem solved. I was actually grateful. I say what I mean, and mean what I say, and appreciate others who do the same. Which is probably why I've become so fond of Trump.
Posted by: empire1 at June 16, 2018 03:10 PM (5oY80)
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 03:10 PM (Ncyf9)
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You coming from the East or the West?
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 03:09 PM (Ncyf9)
East. Grouse were non-existent last year, plus time to look at new places. What general area of MT are you?
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 03:09 PM (Ncyf9)
East. Grouse were non-existent last year, plus time to look at new places. What general area of MT are you?
Posted by: clutch at June 16, 2018 03:11 PM (kiSdp)
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Yes, he has been a great dog, my GSP. He is arthritic in his front shoulders, so he might go 30 to 60 minutes. My pointer is 3 and she can go forever.
Posted by: clutch at June 16, 2018 03:13 PM (kiSdp)
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Buy 'Murrican.
Posted by: clutch at June 16, 2018 03:09 PM (kiSdp)
Is there a good 'Murrican midsize weekend tourer V-twin in the same class as the V-Strom or Versys 650s? I don't know of one offhand, but I'm open to suggestion.
Posted by: clutch at June 16, 2018 03:09 PM (kiSdp)
Is there a good 'Murrican midsize weekend tourer V-twin in the same class as the V-Strom or Versys 650s? I don't know of one offhand, but I'm open to suggestion.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 16, 2018 03:14 PM (fZuhk)
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Testimony is an arrow shot from a longbow:
the force of it depends on the strength of the hand that draws it.
Argument is a bolt from a crossbow,
which has equal force though shot by a child.
---Robert Boyle (paraphrase by Sam'l Johnson)
As it were, and, as you were.
Testimony is an arrow shot from a longbow:
the force of it depends on the strength of the hand that draws it.
Argument is a bolt from a crossbow,
which has equal force though shot by a child.
---Robert Boyle (paraphrase by Sam'l Johnson)
As it were, and, as you were.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 16, 2018 03:17 PM (H5rtT)
Posted by: clutch at June 16, 2018 03:18 PM (kiSdp)
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Who comes up with these names.
One variant of "candy apple red" wasPoison Apple Green.
Now there was a trip to Grandma's for you.
One variant of "candy apple red" wasPoison Apple Green.
Now there was a trip to Grandma's for you.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 16, 2018 03:20 PM (H5rtT)
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I am in SW Montana.
I hunt birds north of great falls.
You want to concentrate on the area from Fairview North and West of there if you are coming that way.
Also, Hettinger ND is birdy as fuck.
I hunt birds north of great falls.
You want to concentrate on the area from Fairview North and West of there if you are coming that way.
Also, Hettinger ND is birdy as fuck.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 03:24 PM (Ncyf9)
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According to Washinton Examiner, the mighty Mick Mulvaney will be leaving his second job at CFPB soon. Could that be bc Mick (an attorney, besides being an economic wonk) will be stepping into the AG shoes for the next 7 months/210 days under the Vacancies Act?
Hoping for:
PDT: Why, yes, jeff, will be happy to accept that letter of resignation!
Hoping for:
PDT: Why, yes, jeff, will be happy to accept that letter of resignation!
Posted by: Ever at June 16, 2018 03:26 PM (QPeHQ)
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Is that area better for Huns than around Lewistown?
Posted by: clutch at June 16, 2018 03:28 PM (kiSdp)
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Tested a versys but bought a vstrom. Maybe my favorite bike. Boring in a good way, reliable as anything, and able to competently perform anything I asked of it. Most importantly cheap because it had been in the market longer than the versys.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 16, 2018 03:31 PM (VgKNm)
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Used with 5k miles or so and was still only $4500 iirc.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 16, 2018 03:32 PM (VgKNm)
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Yeah, I've heard the wee-strom called "the Camry of bikes", in a backhanded compliment sort of way. It seems there's just nothing bad about it.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 16, 2018 03:34 PM (fZuhk)
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If I were looking right now I'd probably try that little Honda dual sport they brought over a few years ago. NX600? I had one of all the CB series up until the 1300 (I think) that they released last decade. I still kick myself for letting go of the Big One.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 16, 2018 03:37 PM (VgKNm)
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I wouldnt turn down a Honda, but I haven't seen any. The Suzukis and Kawasakis are everywhere.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 16, 2018 03:39 PM (fZuhk)
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>> Is that area better for Huns than around Lewistown?
Killer for Pheasant and Sharpies with Huns fluctuating.
Best Hun Hunting I have done has been on Res. to the north of Missoula and North of Great Falls and East from there all the way to NoDak.
With Hun numbers decreasing as you get closer to NoDak.
Killer for Pheasant and Sharpies with Huns fluctuating.
Best Hun Hunting I have done has been on Res. to the north of Missoula and North of Great Falls and East from there all the way to NoDak.
With Hun numbers decreasing as you get closer to NoDak.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 03:41 PM (Ncyf9)
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garrett, thanks. MT is also on my list of retirement states out there. So, a sight seeing trip as well.
Posted by: clutch at June 16, 2018 03:45 PM (kiSdp)
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2018 03:48 PM (Ncyf9)
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I don't know of any American competitors although I'm sure there are some boutique makers like Confederate (where's that lottery ticket?) that have something close.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 16, 2018 04:08 PM (VgKNm)
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I realize you were speaking generally, of course, but some women are as direct as men, and just as confused by the "talking around" and code phrases. And appreciate men's directness.
---
Amen.
---
Amen.
Posted by: SMH at June 16, 2018 05:56 PM (xcF3W)
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146 On topic of schoolin', the new AP history test is going to be all modern. Nothing on ancient history. t.co/UZeONiy2Yv
I have Opinions on this.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 16, 2018 12:18 PM (7A6Uv)
Heh. I'll bet you do. Nothing like erasing the Greek and Roman basis for Western civilization from history.
201 Hot take! The Mongol rampage allowed the reforestation of farmland, sequestering carbon-dioxide and fighting global warming.
tinyurl.com/ybazdpdp
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 16, 2018 12:45 PM (7A6Uv)
[Facepalm] Yeah, but the decomposing bodies more than made up for it.
I have Opinions on this.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 16, 2018 12:18 PM (7A6Uv)
Heh. I'll bet you do. Nothing like erasing the Greek and Roman basis for Western civilization from history.
201 Hot take! The Mongol rampage allowed the reforestation of farmland, sequestering carbon-dioxide and fighting global warming.
tinyurl.com/ybazdpdp
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 16, 2018 12:45 PM (7A6Uv)
[Facepalm] Yeah, but the decomposing bodies more than made up for it.
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