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Weekend Gun Thread
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Colorado congressional hopeful Levi Tilleman believes pepper spray could be an effective deterrent to mass murderers. Levi Tilleman doesn’t like guns. The Colorado congressional candidate’s stance on firearms is a cornucopia of anti-gun daydreams: an “assault weapon” ban, a 10-day waiting period, a safe storage requirement, and a magazine ban all make the list. When comparing himself to his competition in Colorado’s Sixth Congressional District, Tilleman proudly points out that he doesn’t own a gun. All of this makes the video below that much more satisfying.
A can of pepper spray vs. a firearm? No contest.
Teachers and school administrators would have the power to petition a judge to remove guns from the homes of troubled students under a measure pushed Tuesday by Gov. Cuomo. Flanked at his Midtown office by teachers-union leaders Randi Weingarten and Michael Mulgrew and other anti-gun advocates, Cuomo said his “red flag” measure would make New York the first state in the nation to offer such empowerment to teachers. “Right now they are basically powerless,” the governor said.Why would a judge say "No, you can't take the guns away?" Saying "Yes" is the path of least resistance.
Moron submission.
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MH Bench shot of the three current guns I own. XDm .45 ACP, Adams Arms piston drive 5.56 and my ma bell Rem 700 in .308 sitting on a Magpul hunter 700 chassis. Don't mind exotics but I don't have space to reload. The other pic is my friend ranging his DTI .338 Lapua. Keep up the awesome blogging, Ace HQ is the first thing I read in the morning and last thing I read before I go to bed. Semper Fi Quilters Irish DeathIts folks like you who keep the blog running. Thank you for your kind words!
Are there any Morons who can give us a review of the Springfield Armory XD sub-compact? Let's take a look at one.
The law, signed by Gov. Phil Murphy on Wednesday along with five other new gun laws, gives New Jersey gun owners who currently possess ammunition magazines exactly 180 days to either surrender their ammunition magazines, permanently modify them to only accept up to 10 rounds, or transfer them to somebody who is allowed to legally own it such as those living in most other parts of the United States. If someone in New Jersey is caught with a magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds after the deadline is passed, it will be considered a crime of the fourth degree which carries up to 18 months in prison and up to $10,000 in fines or both.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: the chicken at June 17, 2018 06:58 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: the chicken at June 17, 2018 06:59 PM (Evws/)
Posted by: the chicken at June 17, 2018 07:00 PM (Evws/)
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Everyone taking Fathers Day off or still cooking the chicken in the other thread. 
I guess I'll just wait here then.
I guess I'll just wait here then.
Posted by: the chicken at June 17, 2018 07:01 PM (Evws/)
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Tucker Carlson had pepper spray guy on his show. It went about as well a one would expect.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2018 07:01 PM (IqV8l)
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4 Everyone taking Fathers Day off or still cooking the chicken in the other thread.
I guess I'll just wait here then.
Posted by: the chicken
So, you prefer the cooking to the, well, you know...?
I guess I'll just wait here then.
Posted by: the chicken
So, you prefer the cooking to the, well, you know...?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 17, 2018 07:03 PM (fuK7c)
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A can of pepper spray vs. a firearm? No contest.
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Maybe we can get the twerp to try spraying WASP spray into his eyes for the cameras?
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Maybe we can get the twerp to try spraying WASP spray into his eyes for the cameras?
Posted by: Puddin Head at June 17, 2018 07:03 PM (vV/gB)
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5 Tucker Carlson had pepper spray guy on his show. It went about as well a one would expect.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2018 07:01 PM (IqV8l)
I saw that and I thought Tucker was a jerk.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2018 07:01 PM (IqV8l)
I saw that and I thought Tucker was a jerk.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 17, 2018 07:03 PM (3Pma+)
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Man those guns looks like. Wait, they are. Thanks MH.
BTW that DTI Lapua is a bull pup configuration and has removal barrel so you can convert to .308 or .300 Win Mag.
BTW that DTI Lapua is a bull pup configuration and has removal barrel so you can convert to .308 or .300 Win Mag.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 17, 2018 07:04 PM (X+DbD)
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You Jerseyites need to come over the wall to PA. Not as free as some states but paradise compared to the People's Republic of NJ.
Posted by: joncelli, delivering his speech at June 17, 2018 07:04 PM (1FhAQ)
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I've heard that modern pepper spray is ineffective when applied to one's junk, can Mr. Tilleman confirm?
I think you can build up an immunity to it or something, might have to try it over and over and over but you'll get there eventually.
I think you can build up an immunity to it or something, might have to try it over and over and over but you'll get there eventually.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:05 PM (fZuhk)
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As long as it's no one I know and it's more than 3 miles from me, I don't care any more.
Posted by: the chicken at June 17, 2018 07:05 PM (Evws/)
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However, if the trigger is released and the safety lever is then moved from the mid position to the "fire" position, the pistol may fire at that time.
BLAM!!!
BLAM!!!
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2018 07:06 PM (Z+ic4)
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Three words: Moylan Labe bitches.
Posted by: Daisy Cutter at June 17, 2018 07:06 PM (sM+h7)
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Nothing says Father's Day like a moron gun thread.
Posted by: colfax mingo at June 17, 2018 07:06 PM (MFFyI)
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9 Man those guns looks like. Wait, they are. Thanks MH.
BTW that DTI Lapua is a bull pup configuration and has removal barrel so you can convert to .308 or .300 Win Mag.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 17, 2018 07:04 PM (X+DbD)
Or as my late father would say, "I'll have one of each, please."
BTW that DTI Lapua is a bull pup configuration and has removal barrel so you can convert to .308 or .300 Win Mag.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 17, 2018 07:04 PM (X+DbD)
Or as my late father would say, "I'll have one of each, please."
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 17, 2018 07:06 PM (3Pma+)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2018 07:07 PM (Evws/)
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Molan... sheesh pixi
Posted by: Daisy Cutter at June 17, 2018 07:07 PM (sM+h7)
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Hey NJ governor, going to tell all those 'wonderful' people of MS-13 they can't have high capacity magazines?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 07:08 PM (KB4SV)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 17, 2018 07:08 PM (GNCPT)
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Isn't pepper spray something to use on a taco?
Posted by: colfax mingo at June 17, 2018 07:08 PM (MFFyI)
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Anybody got a LCR (or is booknlass around, because I think she just picked one up)? Dad was curious about them and I was wondering if people had any tips or recommendations for things like fiber optic sights or holsters for it.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:09 PM (fZuhk)
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The Corgi-15 is a tack driver.
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at June 17, 2018 07:09 PM (Tyii7)
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17 But N.J. has the strictest gun control laws in the U.S.A.!
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6wastnj
Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2018 07:07 PM (Evws/)
Wow, has the FBI declared that Definitely Not Terrorism yet?
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6wastnj
Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2018 07:07 PM (Evws/)
Wow, has the FBI declared that Definitely Not Terrorism yet?
Posted by: joncelli, delivering his speech at June 17, 2018 07:10 PM (1FhAQ)
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An Assault Corgi - Fifteen, no longer is the bark worse than the bite.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 07:10 PM (KB4SV)
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Wow, has the FBI declared that Definitely Not Terrorism yet?
Black gangbangers not a woman with a utility knife yelling "Allahu Akbar!"
Black gangbangers not a woman with a utility knife yelling "Allahu Akbar!"
Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2018 07:11 PM (Evws/)
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I'm going to have to learn to reload for a Corgi. Flea powder?
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at June 17, 2018 07:12 PM (Tyii7)
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pepper spray isn't all that effective, but the same cannot be said for a dry chemical fire extinguisher...
if you have to frequent "gun free zones", keep an eye out for those, because A: they are fairly ubiquitous, and B: they make a decent improvised weapon, compared to just about anything else you can easily find in those locations.
assuming the bad guy isn't wearing eye and respiratory pro, a blast to the face will render them more or less bind and pretty much unable to breath.
then you brain them with the canister, take away their weapons and GTFO.
it's a last ditch fallback if you can't egress away from the danger and beats the F out of being unarmed.
if you have to frequent "gun free zones", keep an eye out for those, because A: they are fairly ubiquitous, and B: they make a decent improvised weapon, compared to just about anything else you can easily find in those locations.
assuming the bad guy isn't wearing eye and respiratory pro, a blast to the face will render them more or less bind and pretty much unable to breath.
then you brain them with the canister, take away their weapons and GTFO.
it's a last ditch fallback if you can't egress away from the danger and beats the F out of being unarmed.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 07:13 PM (/e9Kb)
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puppy chow
Posted by: CMU VET at June 17, 2018 07:13 PM (C+wjz)
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An Assault Corgi - Fifteen, no longer is the bark worse than the bite.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 07:10 PM (KB4SV)
It's HSLD tactidorable.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 07:10 PM (KB4SV)
It's HSLD tactidorable.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:13 PM (fZuhk)
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So I musta missed the commie here in NJ signed the law...so I have to giveup all my 15 max mags?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:13 PM (Ydx5u)
Posted by: teej at June 17, 2018 07:14 PM (Qirt6)
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Not much of a review, but here goes! I've got an XD Mod.2 in .40 S&W that's my carry weapon, had it for two years now. I don't care for the extended mags, they print too bad, but the standard size mags make the gun too short to hold. I hate how my pinky hangs off the bottom. A Pierce grip solved that little problem. All mags are double stack, so the frame is a bit wide, but I like it better than the single stack Walther PPS's.
The "Grip Zone" just feels strange, like 0 grit sandpaper.
Helps you keep ahold of it, but I really didn't like the texture, it tries to tear up your hands. A rubberized Talon grip wrap fixed that right up. That, along with the Pierce grip, makes it *really* nice to use. Good weight, even fully loaded. Quite manageable on the recoil, and followups are quick and snappy. With that 3" barrel, it's not much of a distance shooter, but at 10 yards, I'm able to put 5 rounds in about 3-4 inches consistently. Less than 1000 rounds through it, but I'm still practicing
There's no safety lever or button, but it's got a trigger safety coupled with a pressure switch on the back side, not entirely sure what it's called ATM. You have to be gripping the gun before you can depress the trigger safety to fire. For me, that actually helps with knowing just exactly how far the trigger has to travel before it fires.
All-in-all, I'm sure there are better out there, but I'm pretty partial to mine. Thank God I've never had to use it anywhere but a range, but I feel pretty confident with it if I ever had to.
Longtime lurker, but I just wanna say that all you Morons are awesome!
The "Grip Zone" just feels strange, like 0 grit sandpaper.
Helps you keep ahold of it, but I really didn't like the texture, it tries to tear up your hands. A rubberized Talon grip wrap fixed that right up. That, along with the Pierce grip, makes it *really* nice to use. Good weight, even fully loaded. Quite manageable on the recoil, and followups are quick and snappy. With that 3" barrel, it's not much of a distance shooter, but at 10 yards, I'm able to put 5 rounds in about 3-4 inches consistently. Less than 1000 rounds through it, but I'm still practicing
There's no safety lever or button, but it's got a trigger safety coupled with a pressure switch on the back side, not entirely sure what it's called ATM. You have to be gripping the gun before you can depress the trigger safety to fire. For me, that actually helps with knowing just exactly how far the trigger has to travel before it fires.
All-in-all, I'm sure there are better out there, but I'm pretty partial to mine. Thank God I've never had to use it anywhere but a range, but I feel pretty confident with it if I ever had to.
Longtime lurker, but I just wanna say that all you Morons are awesome!
Posted by: Ninjafluff at June 17, 2018 07:15 PM (X/GDd)
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gotta call Ruger tomorrow, but it looks like we're good to go on the recall.
it appears that herself's 22/45 is a prior version, not a Mk IV.
whew.
it appears that herself's 22/45 is a prior version, not a Mk IV.
whew.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 07:15 PM (/e9Kb)
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pepper spray isn't all that effective, but the same cannot be said for a dry chemical fire extinguisher...
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 07:13 PM (/e9Kb)
If I've learned anything from shooter vidya games, it's that shooting the fire extinguisher will incapacitate a whole group of enemies at once. Sometimes they'll even sidestep into the cloud and start coughing and drop their guns. It's just science.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 07:13 PM (/e9Kb)
If I've learned anything from shooter vidya games, it's that shooting the fire extinguisher will incapacitate a whole group of enemies at once. Sometimes they'll even sidestep into the cloud and start coughing and drop their guns. It's just science.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:16 PM (fZuhk)
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Reposting from the previous thread. Apologies in advance.
Raheem Kassam: Tommy Robinson update. Streamed 2 hours ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS5E1EJBJ4c
Tommy Robinson first letter from prison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3VPWzSXQQg
Raheem Kassam: Tommy Robinson update. Streamed 2 hours ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS5E1EJBJ4c
Tommy Robinson first letter from prison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3VPWzSXQQg
Posted by: Off the reservation at June 17, 2018 07:17 PM (vWMNq)
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NGU, just bring them to TX and they will be held in storage for you.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2018 07:18 PM (/9B2l)
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Oooh, guns!
I have an XD 45 Compact.
I don't recommend it for MOST shooters. It's reliable and accurate but it recoils hard. I can't keep a good grip on mine. Might work ok with Talon grips, as I had a similar problem with my Glock 36 and Talon grips fixed it.
If you have good grip strength, it's fine. But the XD 45 isn't THAT much bigger and it holds 3 rounds more.
I have an XD 45 Compact.
I don't recommend it for MOST shooters. It's reliable and accurate but it recoils hard. I can't keep a good grip on mine. Might work ok with Talon grips, as I had a similar problem with my Glock 36 and Talon grips fixed it.
If you have good grip strength, it's fine. But the XD 45 isn't THAT much bigger and it holds 3 rounds more.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:18 PM (xJa6I)
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My former FB friend, also a retired lawyer, was certain that letting qualified teachers have weapons was "escalation", therefore automatically WRONG.
Seems obvious that Peace through Strength is not escalation, it is the good guys letting the bad guys know they are not in a NoGunZone, so the FreeFireRange will be shut down quickly if they decide to go jihad.
But because I know her sister used to carry, since she left her business late at night in a not so friendly part of the New Orleans area ... I would/should ask the foolish leftist, "let's call this woman Josie ... how many times should Josie type women be robbed, raped murdered ... before you would say your 'Escalation is Always Wrong' theory is pure BS?"
Her sister was my friend, a strong brave woman, (and a babe) ... and she carried. But nope ... that's just escalation. heh Schools should have the responsible teachers be prepared with real weapons that could end the threat, the timid can carry pepper spray.
Seems obvious that Peace through Strength is not escalation, it is the good guys letting the bad guys know they are not in a NoGunZone, so the FreeFireRange will be shut down quickly if they decide to go jihad.
But because I know her sister used to carry, since she left her business late at night in a not so friendly part of the New Orleans area ... I would/should ask the foolish leftist, "let's call this woman Josie ... how many times should Josie type women be robbed, raped murdered ... before you would say your 'Escalation is Always Wrong' theory is pure BS?"
Her sister was my friend, a strong brave woman, (and a babe) ... and she carried. But nope ... that's just escalation. heh Schools should have the responsible teachers be prepared with real weapons that could end the threat, the timid can carry pepper spray.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 17, 2018 07:18 PM (bT8Z4)
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So, I need to form fit a new holster for the J-frame.
How long in the water ?
Just long enough to be soaked through and malleable. Put a light coat of oil on the revolver and wrap in saran wrap pretty good. Stick it into the holster and rub and poke and smooth the leather until it's where you like it. Hang it till dry and apply Lexol and then a light coat of pure Neatsfoot oil. You may have to re-burnish the edges.
How long in the water ?
Just long enough to be soaked through and malleable. Put a light coat of oil on the revolver and wrap in saran wrap pretty good. Stick it into the holster and rub and poke and smooth the leather until it's where you like it. Hang it till dry and apply Lexol and then a light coat of pure Neatsfoot oil. You may have to re-burnish the edges.
Posted by: dartist at June 17, 2018 07:19 PM (nisXv)
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They didn't care when Kate Steinle was separated from her parents.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 17, 2018 07:19 PM (Ndje9)
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so I have to giveup all my 15 max mags?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:13 PM (Ydx5u)
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no.
you're "supposed" to turn them in or destroy them... the city of Lost Angels had such a ban awhile back.
exactly ZERO magazines were turned into LAPD, even *after* the chief begged people to comply, promising that, even past the deadline, there would be no repercussions.
the state ban, ordering the same thing, was challenged in court, and, even here, a judge granted a preliminary injunction, as the law was too much of an overreach, even by #Failifornia standards.
F the fascists. just say "No" to illegal laws.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:13 PM (Ydx5u)
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no.
you're "supposed" to turn them in or destroy them... the city of Lost Angels had such a ban awhile back.
exactly ZERO magazines were turned into LAPD, even *after* the chief begged people to comply, promising that, even past the deadline, there would be no repercussions.
the state ban, ordering the same thing, was challenged in court, and, even here, a judge granted a preliminary injunction, as the law was too much of an overreach, even by #Failifornia standards.
F the fascists. just say "No" to illegal laws.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 07:19 PM (/e9Kb)
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I also have a Ruger MK IV Hunter.
Beautiful pistol, just stunning. But it doesn't shoot as tight a group as it should for what I paid for it. My CZ 97 and my Walther PPQ both shoot better and they're in much larger calibers.
Beautiful pistol, just stunning. But it doesn't shoot as tight a group as it should for what I paid for it. My CZ 97 and my Walther PPQ both shoot better and they're in much larger calibers.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:19 PM (xJa6I)
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Thing about Colorado is we have mail-in ballots (cheater palooza) now plus a whole lotta idiots in Denver. DNC candidates are mostly going all in on anti-NRA, anti-Trump, I'm the most progressive (universal healthcare, expand school funding and raise teacher pay yada yada. I really wish for this to backfire on them bigly, but I don't dare expect that it will. My backup plan is I have a small raw acreage in WY.
Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at June 17, 2018 07:19 PM (r4KP2)
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Posted by: Ninjafluff at June 17, 2018 07:15 PM (X/GDd)
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A different application to be sure, but I put strips of skateboard tape on the section of the stock where my fingers rest behind the trigger on my match rifles. Zero slippage from sweaty hands.
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A different application to be sure, but I put strips of skateboard tape on the section of the stock where my fingers rest behind the trigger on my match rifles. Zero slippage from sweaty hands.
Posted by: Weasel at June 17, 2018 07:20 PM (MVjcR)
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Levi Whatshisname.
Another parasite using fear, misinformation and hate to gain elected office and profit from the taxpayer's till.
He should let me spray him with some pepper spray.
Another parasite using fear, misinformation and hate to gain elected office and profit from the taxpayer's till.
He should let me spray him with some pepper spray.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2018 07:20 PM (EoRCO)
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Posted by: andycanuck at June 17, 2018 07:07 PM (Evws/)
Wow, has the FBI declared that Definitely Not Terrorism yet?
Posted by: joncelli, delivering his speech at June 17, 2018 07:10 PM (1FhAQ)
Sounds like it's gang related. Lots of gang activity in Trenton, NJ-and despite gun laws, gang members can get guns! What a surprise/sarc.
Wow, has the FBI declared that Definitely Not Terrorism yet?
Posted by: joncelli, delivering his speech at June 17, 2018 07:10 PM (1FhAQ)
Sounds like it's gang related. Lots of gang activity in Trenton, NJ-and despite gun laws, gang members can get guns! What a surprise/sarc.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2018 07:20 PM (0/+vJ)
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Yay gun thread. I got more just not right now.
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at June 17, 2018 07:21 PM (bgJ0E)
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@ Ninjafluff
Good on you!
The XD 40 is the best .40 pistol out there, for me.
...of course, the .40 I still have is a Glock. Because of course it is.
Good on you!
The XD 40 is the best .40 pistol out there, for me.
...of course, the .40 I still have is a Glock. Because of course it is.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:22 PM (xJa6I)
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Thanks, dartist.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 17, 2018 07:22 PM (GNCPT)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 17, 2018 07:22 PM (3Pma+)
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The law, signed by Gov. Phil Murphy on Wednesday along with five other
new gun laws, gives New Jersey gun owners who currently possess
ammunition magazines exactly 180 days to either surrender their
ammunition magazines, permanently modify them to only accept up to 10
rounds, or transfer them to somebody who is allowed to legally own it
such as those living in most other parts of the United States.
If someone in New Jersey is caught with a magazine capable of holding
more than 10 rounds after the deadline is passed, it will be considered a
crime of the fourth degree which carries up to 18 months in prison and
up to $10,000 in fines or both.
Ex post facto law. SCOTUS will tear it up.
new gun laws, gives New Jersey gun owners who currently possess
ammunition magazines exactly 180 days to either surrender their
ammunition magazines, permanently modify them to only accept up to 10
rounds, or transfer them to somebody who is allowed to legally own it
such as those living in most other parts of the United States.
If someone in New Jersey is caught with a magazine capable of holding
more than 10 rounds after the deadline is passed, it will be considered a
crime of the fourth degree which carries up to 18 months in prison and
up to $10,000 in fines or both.
Ex post facto law. SCOTUS will tear it up.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 17, 2018 07:23 PM (+Dllb)
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Wow, has the FBI declared that Definitely Not Terrorism yet?
Your first mistake was going to an all night "Arts Festival" in Trenton.
Your first mistake was going to an all night "Arts Festival" in Trenton.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 17, 2018 07:23 PM (O5Q3r)
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I also have a Ruger MK IV Hunter.
Beautiful pistol, just stunning. But it doesn't shoot as tight a group as it should for what I paid for it. My CZ 97 and my Walther PPQ both shoot better and they're in much larger calibers.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:19 PM (xJa6I)
The MkII Government Target is usually considered the gold standard of Ruger .22 auto pistols fwiw. Consequently, they aren't as cheap or easy to find as the others.
Beautiful pistol, just stunning. But it doesn't shoot as tight a group as it should for what I paid for it. My CZ 97 and my Walther PPQ both shoot better and they're in much larger calibers.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:19 PM (xJa6I)
The MkII Government Target is usually considered the gold standard of Ruger .22 auto pistols fwiw. Consequently, they aren't as cheap or easy to find as the others.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:23 PM (fZuhk)
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Oh and I have real job now!
So the addiction is being fed, again.
I ordered a Star BM and a Zastava 88. Two 9mm pistols for under $500. Not bad, not bad at all.
I hope.
Sigh. But I do have an addiction.
So the addiction is being fed, again.
I ordered a Star BM and a Zastava 88. Two 9mm pistols for under $500. Not bad, not bad at all.
I hope.
Sigh. But I do have an addiction.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:23 PM (xJa6I)
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If I've learned anything from shooter vidya games,
it's that shooting the fire extinguisher will incapacitate a whole group
of enemies at once. Sometimes they'll even sidestep into the cloud and
start coughing and drop their guns. It's just science.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:16 PM (fZuhk)
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i learned thi just being a bit down wind of a discharge more than once, and then not even aimed in my direction.
a concentrated blast to the face isn't something i'd want to experience, hence my planning. of course, i try to avoid the obvious juicy targets, such as malls, theaters, schools, churches, etc.
it's that shooting the fire extinguisher will incapacitate a whole group
of enemies at once. Sometimes they'll even sidestep into the cloud and
start coughing and drop their guns. It's just science.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:16 PM (fZuhk)
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i learned thi just being a bit down wind of a discharge more than once, and then not even aimed in my direction.
a concentrated blast to the face isn't something i'd want to experience, hence my planning. of course, i try to avoid the obvious juicy targets, such as malls, theaters, schools, churches, etc.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 07:23 PM (/e9Kb)
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The MkII Government Target is usually considered the gold standard of Ruger .22 auto pistols fwiw. Consequently, they aren't as cheap or easy to find as the others.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:23 PM (fZuhk)
jah, I've heard great things about the model II govt, from many folks.
I just really, really hate the Ruger re-assembly process. Which is why I wanted and bought the MK IV.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:23 PM (fZuhk)
jah, I've heard great things about the model II govt, from many folks.
I just really, really hate the Ruger re-assembly process. Which is why I wanted and bought the MK IV.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:24 PM (xJa6I)
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NGU, just bring them to TX and they will be held in storage for you.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2018 07:18 PM (/9B2l)
Sigh yeah...if that past of the law is not overturned, I will probably bring them with me to VA on and give it to some of my shipmates and maybe bury a few a in the backyard just in case
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2018 07:18 PM (/9B2l)
Sigh yeah...if that past of the law is not overturned, I will probably bring them with me to VA on and give it to some of my shipmates and maybe bury a few a in the backyard just in case
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:24 PM (Ydx5u)
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Your first mistake was going to an all night "Arts Festival" in Trenton.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 17, 2018 07:23 PM (O5Q3r)
exactly...for those not from NJ, trenton is not exactly Beverly Hills. LOL
Posted by: tu3031 at June 17, 2018 07:23 PM (O5Q3r)
exactly...for those not from NJ, trenton is not exactly Beverly Hills. LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:25 PM (Ydx5u)
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"If I've learned anything from shooter vidya games,
it's that shooting the fire extinguisher will incapacitate a whole group
of enemies at once. Sometimes they'll even sidestep into the cloud and
start coughing and drop their guns. It's just science.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:16 PM (fZuhk) "
That would work on a dry-chem, but don't try it with a CO2 - those are seriously thick steel.
it's that shooting the fire extinguisher will incapacitate a whole group
of enemies at once. Sometimes they'll even sidestep into the cloud and
start coughing and drop their guns. It's just science.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:16 PM (fZuhk) "
That would work on a dry-chem, but don't try it with a CO2 - those are seriously thick steel.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 17, 2018 07:26 PM (GNCPT)
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50
Thanks, dartist.
Anytime. It might be a bitch getting moisture into the leather if it has a new finish on it, so it may have to soak longer.
Thanks, dartist.
Anytime. It might be a bitch getting moisture into the leather if it has a new finish on it, so it may have to soak longer.
Posted by: dartist at June 17, 2018 07:26 PM (nisXv)
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If I've learned anything from shooter vidya games, it's that shooting the fire extinguisher will incapacitate a whole group of enemies at once.
And all barrels (containers-type, not gun-type) explode when shot. Ones with biohazard marking blow up real good.
I just finished mounting my first scope using something other than Burris Signature Z rings. It was kind of a PITA.
And all barrels (containers-type, not gun-type) explode when shot. Ones with biohazard marking blow up real good.
I just finished mounting my first scope using something other than Burris Signature Z rings. It was kind of a PITA.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 17, 2018 07:26 PM (7oUUT)
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Anybody got a LCR (or is booknlass around, because I
think she just picked one up)? Dad was curious about them and I was
wondering if people had any tips or recommendations for things like
fiber optic sights or holsters for it.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:09 PM
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I have an LCR in 38 special that I keep loaded in my truck in the console.
It is a very light gun and it has some serious recoil even with standard 38 special loads. I do not recommend shooting +p rounds in it.
think she just picked one up)? Dad was curious about them and I was
wondering if people had any tips or recommendations for things like
fiber optic sights or holsters for it.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:09 PM
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I have an LCR in 38 special that I keep loaded in my truck in the console.
It is a very light gun and it has some serious recoil even with standard 38 special loads. I do not recommend shooting +p rounds in it.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 17, 2018 07:27 PM (+Dllb)
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22 Anybody got a LCR (or is booknlass around, because I think she just picked one up)? Dad was curious about them and I was wondering if people had any tips or recommendations for things like fiber optic sights or holsters for it.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:09 PM (fZuhk)
The second version of the LCR is a fine pocket pistol. Great trigger compared to the pain of the first model.
I shop at Cheaper than Dirt for holsters quite a bit. Should be several there, depending on if ya wanna go IWB or OWB.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:09 PM (fZuhk)
The second version of the LCR is a fine pocket pistol. Great trigger compared to the pain of the first model.
I shop at Cheaper than Dirt for holsters quite a bit. Should be several there, depending on if ya wanna go IWB or OWB.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:27 PM (xJa6I)
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gotta go get some chores done, back later.
herself brought home an 1100 in 28 gauge and a Krag, but the Krag is going back to CDNN...
it's been screwed with over the years, but not so's you could tell from the photos they posted. at least they have a no questions asked return policy on their auctions
herself brought home an 1100 in 28 gauge and a Krag, but the Krag is going back to CDNN...
it's been screwed with over the years, but not so's you could tell from the photos they posted. at least they have a no questions asked return policy on their auctions
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 07:27 PM (/e9Kb)
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Oh damn you said LCR, didn't you?
I was thinking LCP. My bad. I don't have any serious range time with the LCP. I rented one, once. It seemed very...Ruger.
I was thinking LCP. My bad. I don't have any serious range time with the LCP. I rented one, once. It seemed very...Ruger.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:28 PM (xJa6I)
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Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 07:27 PM (/e9Kb)
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Hey red - I SWEAR I'm going to answer your email this week. Sorry!
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Hey red - I SWEAR I'm going to answer your email this week. Sorry!
Posted by: Weasel at June 17, 2018 07:29 PM (Cy3RJ)
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A female suspect was arrested on Sunday after she ran after children with a knife while shouting I want to kill all you Jews in the Haringey area of London.
who is the mayor of london again?
who is the mayor of london again?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:29 PM (Ydx5u)
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I just really, really hate the Ruger re-assembly process. Which is why I wanted and bought the MK IV.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:24 PM (xJa6I)
The MkII is not easy to reassemble by a long shot, but you only detail strip it every year or so (depending on how much you shoot it) and the process is kind of overblown IMO. When all you got was a little pamphlet from Ruger, yeah, lots of people just put the stupid Swiss Army knife thing and all the parts back in the box and sent it to Ruger to have them reassemble it, but I bet after an evening with a nice dropcloth on the coffee table and some internet videos cued up you could master it easy. And once you know how to do it (use gravity to help you out here), you'll be surprised at how much of it sticks with you even if the next time you do it is five years later; it's like learning to steal a bike.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:24 PM (xJa6I)
The MkII is not easy to reassemble by a long shot, but you only detail strip it every year or so (depending on how much you shoot it) and the process is kind of overblown IMO. When all you got was a little pamphlet from Ruger, yeah, lots of people just put the stupid Swiss Army knife thing and all the parts back in the box and sent it to Ruger to have them reassemble it, but I bet after an evening with a nice dropcloth on the coffee table and some internet videos cued up you could master it easy. And once you know how to do it (use gravity to help you out here), you'll be surprised at how much of it sticks with you even if the next time you do it is five years later; it's like learning to steal a bike.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:31 PM (fZuhk)
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68 A female suspect was arrested on Sunday after she ran after children with a knife while shouting I want to kill all you Jews in the Haringey area of London.
who is the mayor of london again?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:29 PM (Ydx5u)
The suspect's husband?
who is the mayor of london again?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:29 PM (Ydx5u)
The suspect's husband?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:31 PM (xJa6I)
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Speaking of the UK, Sargon of Akkad mentioned at the end of his latest "This Week In Stuipd" that he's followed Count Dankula's lead and joined UKIP.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at June 17, 2018 07:32 PM (NL6wI)
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Just received more 25 rd mags for my FM 24-29 out of Texas. God I love the internet were I can buy gear from next to nothing and get it sent to little old me, when this type of stuff is made of pure green unobtainium. Look up the gun. Basically the French were so desperate after WWI to have a half decent section weapon that they approached Colt to make the BAR under licence. Colt wanted a $squillion for the fees, so the French military said FU and turned the BAR up side-down , make it a top loader and carried on using it from 1924 until the late 1980's. A little know but good gun.
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at June 17, 2018 07:33 PM (bgJ0E)
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I have two Ruger Mark II pistols. Sucks about the Mark IV but Ruger usually designs good firearms. Sounds like the redesign on the mainspring housing group (admittedly tricky for the newby when reassembling the Mark I - III pistols) didn't work out so well.
The Committee for Public Safety for Gubs has approved the purchase of a Plainfield .30 Carbine that I found for a steal on Gun Broker. The Plainfields aren't particularly collectible but I just wanted a shooter since I want to limit the use of my mil-issue M-1 carbine with folding stock. Serial number shows that this carbine was manufactured in 1970-71.
Stripped it and cleaned it; the internal parts have almost no wear and the stock is virtually like new -- this bad boy has spent four decades mostly in a safe. I was going to rectify that condition but torrential rain kept me from going to the rifle range.
The Committee for Public Safety for Gubs has approved the purchase of a Plainfield .30 Carbine that I found for a steal on Gun Broker. The Plainfields aren't particularly collectible but I just wanted a shooter since I want to limit the use of my mil-issue M-1 carbine with folding stock. Serial number shows that this carbine was manufactured in 1970-71.
Stripped it and cleaned it; the internal parts have almost no wear and the stock is virtually like new -- this bad boy has spent four decades mostly in a safe. I was going to rectify that condition but torrential rain kept me from going to the rifle range.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 07:33 PM (5Yee7)
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it's like learning to steal a bike.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:31 PM (fZuhk)
LOL
Nice.
I lost a part once on a friend's MK III. My friend was PISSED. We literally went over the carpet with a magnifying glass.
I haven't touched a Ruger MK II or III disassembly since. So might be some aversion therapy there.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:31 PM (fZuhk)
LOL
Nice.
I lost a part once on a friend's MK III. My friend was PISSED. We literally went over the carpet with a magnifying glass.
I haven't touched a Ruger MK II or III disassembly since. So might be some aversion therapy there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:34 PM (xJa6I)
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If you're in CA. the correct answer is the ar maglock gen. 2
Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at June 17, 2018 07:34 PM (9TR2V)
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who is the mayor of london again?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:29 PM (Ydx5u)
If you were in a room with the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Service of London and yelled "CRESSIDA ROSE DICK!", she would turn around and look, on account of that's her name. So they got that going for them, which is nice.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:29 PM (Ydx5u)
If you were in a room with the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Service of London and yelled "CRESSIDA ROSE DICK!", she would turn around and look, on account of that's her name. So they got that going for them, which is nice.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:34 PM (fZuhk)
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@Retired Buckeye Cop
Nice!
I have a Universal. It's crap and I know it. But...I love M1 carbines.
If you need new springs, I believe KeepShooting and Wolff both make new M1 Carbine parts.
Nice!
I have a Universal. It's crap and I know it. But...I love M1 carbines.
If you need new springs, I believe KeepShooting and Wolff both make new M1 Carbine parts.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:35 PM (xJa6I)
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Keeping your Corgi static and fixed to the barrel lacks the tactical flexibility of rocket propelled corgis.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 17, 2018 07:35 PM (3JQ/p)
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71 Sargon of Akkad mentioned at the end of his latest
He should have mentioned it at the beginning ... I rarely make it to the half way point of his videos. Too much repetition.
He should have mentioned it at the beginning ... I rarely make it to the half way point of his videos. Too much repetition.
Posted by: Off the reservation at June 17, 2018 07:36 PM (vWMNq)
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The Navy has accepted delivery of a destroyer named for a naval aviator who crash-landed his plane to try to save a downed pilot in the Korean War.
Medal of Honor recipient Thomas Hudner witnessed the christening of the ship in April 2017 at Maines Bath Iron Works and died months later at 93 in his native Massachusetts.
During Fridays ceremony in Bath, a flag was hoisted that previously flew over Arlington National Cemetery and on the USS Constitution to honor Hudners efforts. Hudner failed to save his comrade, Ensign Jesse Brown, but is remembered for his devotion.
A U.S. Navy frigate was named for Brown, the first African-American naval aviator, in 1973. The Hudner will join the fleet when its commissioned into service Dec. 1 in Boston.
Medal of Honor recipient Thomas Hudner witnessed the christening of the ship in April 2017 at Maines Bath Iron Works and died months later at 93 in his native Massachusetts.
During Fridays ceremony in Bath, a flag was hoisted that previously flew over Arlington National Cemetery and on the USS Constitution to honor Hudners efforts. Hudner failed to save his comrade, Ensign Jesse Brown, but is remembered for his devotion.
A U.S. Navy frigate was named for Brown, the first African-American naval aviator, in 1973. The Hudner will join the fleet when its commissioned into service Dec. 1 in Boston.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:36 PM (Ydx5u)
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Good on Sargon.
He does have a working head on his shoulders and he doesn't like getting shit on.
Maybe we can get him onto free soil someday.
He does have a working head on his shoulders and he doesn't like getting shit on.
Maybe we can get him onto free soil someday.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:36 PM (xJa6I)
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We had a flying corgi when I was a kid ... at least, when he was chasing our car his feet barely touched the ground.
Posted by: Off the reservation at June 17, 2018 07:37 PM (vWMNq)
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The best way to reload a corgi, any caliber, is with rib eye steak.
posted by: The Corgi Nutrition Council
posted by: The Corgi Nutrition Council
Posted by: JTB at June 17, 2018 07:38 PM (V+03K)
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Maybe we can get him onto free soil someday.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:36 PM (xJa6I)
He's visited here, but that's his home and that's where his fight is.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:36 PM (xJa6I)
He's visited here, but that's his home and that's where his fight is.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:38 PM (fZuhk)
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Will that corgi bayonet work on a Brown Bess?
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 07:39 PM (pHfeF)
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The U.S. Navys top officer wants to end standing ballistic missile defense patrols and transfer the mission to shore-based assets.
Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson said in no uncertain terms on June 12 that he wants the Navy off the tether of ballistic missile defense patrols, a mission that has put a growing strain on the Navys hard-worn surface combatants, and the duty shifted towards more shore-based infrastructure.
Right now, as we speak, I have six multi-mission, very sophisticated, dynamic cruisers and destroyers six of them are on ballistic missile defense duty at sea, Richardson said during his address at the U.S. Naval War Colleges Current Strategy Forum. And if you know a little bit about this business you know that geometry is a tyrant.
You have to be in a tiny little box to have a chance at intercepting that incoming missile. So, we have six ships that could go anywhere in the world, at flank speed, in a tiny little box, defending land.
Richardson continued, saying the Navy could be used in emergencies but that in the long term the problem demands a different solution.
Another Fredo era boondogle and surrender to the Russians...and it's PDT who is in league with the Ruskies? I don't think so
Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson said in no uncertain terms on June 12 that he wants the Navy off the tether of ballistic missile defense patrols, a mission that has put a growing strain on the Navys hard-worn surface combatants, and the duty shifted towards more shore-based infrastructure.
Right now, as we speak, I have six multi-mission, very sophisticated, dynamic cruisers and destroyers six of them are on ballistic missile defense duty at sea, Richardson said during his address at the U.S. Naval War Colleges Current Strategy Forum. And if you know a little bit about this business you know that geometry is a tyrant.
You have to be in a tiny little box to have a chance at intercepting that incoming missile. So, we have six ships that could go anywhere in the world, at flank speed, in a tiny little box, defending land.
Richardson continued, saying the Navy could be used in emergencies but that in the long term the problem demands a different solution.
Another Fredo era boondogle and surrender to the Russians...and it's PDT who is in league with the Ruskies? I don't think so
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:39 PM (Ydx5u)
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"...and your "spare" Ruger.41Mag..."
Roflmao
But, a good choice.
Posted by: teej at June 17, 2018 07:14 PM (Qirt6)
Idiot kid brother (is there any other kind?) had to sell his after his first divorce. Unfortunately, I didn't have the money to buy it at that time.
.41 Magnum is a nice cartridge that just never "took off."
Roflmao
But, a good choice.
Posted by: teej at June 17, 2018 07:14 PM (Qirt6)
Idiot kid brother (is there any other kind?) had to sell his after his first divorce. Unfortunately, I didn't have the money to buy it at that time.
.41 Magnum is a nice cartridge that just never "took off."
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 07:40 PM (5Yee7)
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If someone in New Jersey is caught with a magazine capable of holding
more than 10 rounds after the deadline is passed, it will be considered a
crime of the fourth degree which carries up to 18 months in prison and
up to $10,000 in fines or both.
Ex post facto law. SCOTUS will tear it up.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 17, 2018 07:23 PM (+Dllb)
Ah... but it will make possession of them the crime... not owning them...
ergo... new crime, not Ex Post Facto...
Besides... its a Tax.
more than 10 rounds after the deadline is passed, it will be considered a
crime of the fourth degree which carries up to 18 months in prison and
up to $10,000 in fines or both.
Ex post facto law. SCOTUS will tear it up.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 17, 2018 07:23 PM (+Dllb)
Ah... but it will make possession of them the crime... not owning them...
ergo... new crime, not Ex Post Facto...
Besides... its a Tax.
Posted by: Don Q at June 17, 2018 07:40 PM (NgKpN)
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Sadiq is such a common Brit name.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2018 07:41 PM (/9B2l)
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84 Maybe we can get him onto free soil someday.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:36 PM (xJa6I)
He's visited here, but that's his home and that's where his fight is.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:38 PM (fZuhk)
I don't seem him fighting. I don't see too many Brits or Scots willing to fight. And it's going to take fighting to get this changed. Polite diction will only take you so far.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:36 PM (xJa6I)
He's visited here, but that's his home and that's where his fight is.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:38 PM (fZuhk)
I don't seem him fighting. I don't see too many Brits or Scots willing to fight. And it's going to take fighting to get this changed. Polite diction will only take you so far.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:41 PM (xJa6I)
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Hundreds of turkeys choked to death in south Israel on Sunday evening due to smoke inhalation caused by incendiary kites and balloons flown over from Gaza
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:42 PM (Ydx5u)
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First. As usual.
Posted by: the chicken at June 17, 2018 06:58 PM
At least when it comes to crossing the road!
Don't forget yourfeather fur oil, for that healthful, sleek ready-for-whatever-comes-your-way look!
Posted by: the chicken at June 17, 2018 06:58 PM
At least when it comes to crossing the road!
Don't forget your
Posted by: Gwenyth P., lifestyle advisor to the Lifestylers at June 17, 2018 07:43 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:43 PM (xJa6I)
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This week's shoot off is between a 1903a3 Smith Corona and a "new" re-barreled 1903a3 Remington from Gibbs with a RR 2013 barrel.
The Smith Corona was rescued from Bubba with a sporting stock and rebuilt to specs with the right wood and rear sight. Barrel date is July 1943. Built like a tank and has a really smooth trigger and great bore. I think all of these were kept stateside during WW2.
The Remington is "new" on an original receiver and has the taller front sight for 100 yard ranges and has a C stock which is kinda funky but comfortable. No telling where it's parts have been.
20 rounds each at 50 and 100 yards, sitting, standing and prone.
1943 vs. 2013......let's get it on.
The Smith Corona was rescued from Bubba with a sporting stock and rebuilt to specs with the right wood and rear sight. Barrel date is July 1943. Built like a tank and has a really smooth trigger and great bore. I think all of these were kept stateside during WW2.
The Remington is "new" on an original receiver and has the taller front sight for 100 yard ranges and has a C stock which is kinda funky but comfortable. No telling where it's parts have been.
20 rounds each at 50 and 100 yards, sitting, standing and prone.
1943 vs. 2013......let's get it on.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2018 07:46 PM (EoRCO)
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Tastes like ham.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:43 PM (xJa6I)
And the skin/crust... like jerky.
It's jerky-wrapped ham, in turkey form.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:43 PM (xJa6I)
And the skin/crust... like jerky.
It's jerky-wrapped ham, in turkey form.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:46 PM (fZuhk)
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I have found that going for a quality hand made holster that will last a long time and fit well from the start is the best play. I have pretty much never regretted a high quality holster. Some past examples are the works of Milt Sparks, R.L. Graham, and Bulman Gun Leather. These were the stuff back in the day, not sure about present availability.
My advice would be to check up on who is active now and who is making top quality holsters today.
My advice would be to check up on who is active now and who is making top quality holsters today.
Posted by: Quint at June 17, 2018 07:47 PM (n13/j)
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I think I have a mark II. But thanks for the heads up.
Posted by: Adriane the Terrible Boating Accident Critic ... at June 17, 2018 07:47 PM (AoK0a)
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Eternal Damnation to every one in Gaza and their next four generations.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2018 07:47 PM (/9B2l)
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The People's republic of New Jersey should have just gone with a big tax on mags over 10 rounds, kind of like a poll tax.
( snickering)
( snickering)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 07:48 PM (pHfeF)
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A friend of mine from work was helping me move about 10 years ago. I had all my guns laid out on the bed so we could move the safes. Oddly he fixated on the crappiest gun in my collection as the one to fear the most. The gun is a MK 760 9MM semi automatic. Jams regularly and is a pain to find spare mags for and really heavy for what it is made to do. I like it in the collection because I got it cheap and it's different. But If I start selling it is the first to go.
Posted by: X-ray at June 17, 2018 07:48 PM (9PW1S)
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80 The Navy has accepted delivery of a destroyer named for a naval aviator who crash-landed his plane to try to save a downed pilot in the Korean War.
Medal of Honor recipient Thomas Hudner witnessed the christening of the ship in April 2017 at Maines Bath Iron Works and died months later at 93 in his native Massachusetts.
During Fridays ceremony in Bath, a flag was hoisted that previously flew over Arlington National Cemetery and on the USS Constitution to honor Hudners efforts. Hudner failed to save his comrade, Ensign Jesse Brown, but is remembered for his devotion.
A U.S. Navy frigate was named for Brown, the first African-American naval aviator, in 1973. The Hudner will join the fleet when its commissioned into service Dec. 1 in Boston.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:36 PM (Ydx5u)
Very cool. I'd like to see the gun thread expand into a military thread. Maybe include a Medal of Honor recipient each Sunday
Medal of Honor recipient Thomas Hudner witnessed the christening of the ship in April 2017 at Maines Bath Iron Works and died months later at 93 in his native Massachusetts.
During Fridays ceremony in Bath, a flag was hoisted that previously flew over Arlington National Cemetery and on the USS Constitution to honor Hudners efforts. Hudner failed to save his comrade, Ensign Jesse Brown, but is remembered for his devotion.
A U.S. Navy frigate was named for Brown, the first African-American naval aviator, in 1973. The Hudner will join the fleet when its commissioned into service Dec. 1 in Boston.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:36 PM (Ydx5u)
Very cool. I'd like to see the gun thread expand into a military thread. Maybe include a Medal of Honor recipient each Sunday
Posted by: josephistan at June 17, 2018 07:49 PM (ANIFC)
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Oh, range report before I get dinner:
Took the CZ 97 to the range again, carrying it in a Desantis scabbard holster. I'm a large mammal, so I don't notice the extra weight carrying it, but when I draw it...whew. The CZ 97 is a big boy gun, compared to my Glock 21.
Gun shot to point of aim, flawless. No problems after getting it back from CZ from it's repair. So that makes me happy. I'm still not great at one-handed shooting but the gun helps make up for that. Damn fine pistol.
I also put a box of 380 through my Kahr 380. The pistol is TINY but it handles the recoil ok two-handed. One handed...not great. Gun is shooting low and left for me, very consistently. Managed to get body hits at 25 yards with it, but they were not hitting close to point of aim. I think I'll try to trade it for a CZ 83 or Glock 42.
Took the CZ 97 to the range again, carrying it in a Desantis scabbard holster. I'm a large mammal, so I don't notice the extra weight carrying it, but when I draw it...whew. The CZ 97 is a big boy gun, compared to my Glock 21.
Gun shot to point of aim, flawless. No problems after getting it back from CZ from it's repair. So that makes me happy. I'm still not great at one-handed shooting but the gun helps make up for that. Damn fine pistol.
I also put a box of 380 through my Kahr 380. The pistol is TINY but it handles the recoil ok two-handed. One handed...not great. Gun is shooting low and left for me, very consistently. Managed to get body hits at 25 yards with it, but they were not hitting close to point of aim. I think I'll try to trade it for a CZ 83 or Glock 42.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:49 PM (xJa6I)
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I have no use for a 22LR handgun, a 22LR rifle gets the maximum out of the cartridge and is as easy to carry as a 22LR handgun. But that's just me.
Posted by: colfax mingo at June 17, 2018 07:49 PM (MFFyI)
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I think I have a mark II. But thanks for the heads up.
Posted by: Adriane the Terrible Boating Accident Critic ... at June 17, 2018 07:47 PM (AoK0a)
Huh.
I always had you figured for the Mateba Model 6 Unica type.
Posted by: Adriane the Terrible Boating Accident Critic ... at June 17, 2018 07:47 PM (AoK0a)
Huh.
I always had you figured for the Mateba Model 6 Unica type.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:50 PM (fZuhk)
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You have to be in a tiny little box to have a chance
at intercepting that incoming missile. So, we have six ships that could
go anywhere in the world, at flank speed, in a tiny little box,
defending land.
Richardson continued, saying the Navy could be used in emergencies
but that in the long term the problem demands a different solution.
Another Fredo era boondogle and surrender to the Russians...and it's PDT who is in league with the Ruskies? I don't think so
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:39 PM
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We currently have six ABM missile ship platforms, three of which will be unavailable due to refit and other SLEP issues and we will only ever have two on station one in the Pacific and one in the Atlantic to intercept hostile inbound Vampires.
Riiiiiight...........
at intercepting that incoming missile. So, we have six ships that could
go anywhere in the world, at flank speed, in a tiny little box,
defending land.
Richardson continued, saying the Navy could be used in emergencies
but that in the long term the problem demands a different solution.
Another Fredo era boondogle and surrender to the Russians...and it's PDT who is in league with the Ruskies? I don't think so
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 07:39 PM
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We currently have six ABM missile ship platforms, three of which will be unavailable due to refit and other SLEP issues and we will only ever have two on station one in the Pacific and one in the Atlantic to intercept hostile inbound Vampires.
Riiiiiight...........
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 17, 2018 07:50 PM (+Dllb)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2018 07:50 PM (IqV8l)
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96 I have found that going for a quality hand made holster that will last a long time and fit well from the start is the best play. I have pretty much never regretted a high quality holster. Some past examples are the works of Milt Sparks, R.L. Graham, and Bulman Gun Leather. These were the stuff back in the day, not sure about present availability.
My advice would be to check up on who is active now and who is making top quality holsters today.
Posted by: Quint at June 17, 2018 07:47 PM (n13/j)
Don Hume too!
Don's retired but his designs are still damn fine. Oklahoma Gun Leather is still selling his stuff, I think.
My advice would be to check up on who is active now and who is making top quality holsters today.
Posted by: Quint at June 17, 2018 07:47 PM (n13/j)
Don Hume too!
Don's retired but his designs are still damn fine. Oklahoma Gun Leather is still selling his stuff, I think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:51 PM (xJa6I)
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Ruger 22/45 Lite turned around less than a year after purchase and sent in for recall. Got it back in less than 3 weeks, a week more than Sig P320 took to come back. Now that is good service.
Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2018 07:52 PM (zLDYs)
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Dang, just did 50 rounds of 38spl and turned the marinating chicken and came back and I'm way behind here.
MH - thanks for the gub thread, as always!
NZ guy - interesting. Top-feeding mag-fed thing like that would look sort of like a Nambu, no? Need to go look it up.
Ret Buckeye Cop - M-1 carbines are the best. Probably the "new shooter/female shooter/non-gonzo shooter" rifle of choice. The boss loves it, and shoots it well.
Recently asked at a fun store and the Kahr/AO repros are now up towards $1K! They were in the low 800s for years (got mine for a steal, practically unused, from a young guy raising cash for school). And the "new Inland" ones are above $1K, I think.
Anyway, love that little rifle. And even with a turret press, easy to crank out tons of ammo for it (no variation in load, just the standard one it was built around).
MH - thanks for the gub thread, as always!
NZ guy - interesting. Top-feeding mag-fed thing like that would look sort of like a Nambu, no? Need to go look it up.
Ret Buckeye Cop - M-1 carbines are the best. Probably the "new shooter/female shooter/non-gonzo shooter" rifle of choice. The boss loves it, and shoots it well.
Recently asked at a fun store and the Kahr/AO repros are now up towards $1K! They were in the low 800s for years (got mine for a steal, practically unused, from a young guy raising cash for school). And the "new Inland" ones are above $1K, I think.
Anyway, love that little rifle. And even with a turret press, easy to crank out tons of ammo for it (no variation in load, just the standard one it was built around).
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 07:53 PM (QDnY+)
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You guys might want to check with our own Jim, sunk New Dawn for custom holsters.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2018 07:53 PM (/9B2l)
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My advice would be to check up on who is active now and who is making top quality holsters today.
A good site for many aspects of leatherwork and a bunch of very nice, helpful people.
http://tinyurl.com/yfy8qfx
A good site for many aspects of leatherwork and a bunch of very nice, helpful people.
http://tinyurl.com/yfy8qfx
Posted by: dartist at June 17, 2018 07:55 PM (nisXv)
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If you need new springs, I believe KeepShooting and Wolff both make new M1 Carbine parts.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:35 PM (xJa6I)
Thanks for the tip: I knew about Wolff but didn't know about KeepShooting.
Yea, the Universals are probably the worst of the repro M-1s.
I was looking for a Plainfield because that was the first firearm I ever bought back in 1981. I subsequently traded/sold that one when I got my first Ruger Mini-14. I was super excited to find this Plainfield for only $500. The only thing cosmetically wrong with it is that the blue on the left side of the barrel is worn off from where it was resting on a rack. The rifling looks pristine.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:35 PM (xJa6I)
Thanks for the tip: I knew about Wolff but didn't know about KeepShooting.
Yea, the Universals are probably the worst of the repro M-1s.
I was looking for a Plainfield because that was the first firearm I ever bought back in 1981. I subsequently traded/sold that one when I got my first Ruger Mini-14. I was super excited to find this Plainfield for only $500. The only thing cosmetically wrong with it is that the blue on the left side of the barrel is worn off from where it was resting on a rack. The rifling looks pristine.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 07:55 PM (5Yee7)
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Use pepper spray on the school shooters, huh?
Well, first a teacher has to get it (it will be in a lock-box in most schoolrooms, to keep the bad kids from ganging up on a teacher, taking it, and using it on the teacher), then get close enough to use it. Before the teacher gets shot.
Also, some of these shooter scumb@gs will be smart enough to wear a good gas mask. For about $200 Amazon will sell anyone an Israeli military gas mask and a military-grade filter canister.
Well, first a teacher has to get it (it will be in a lock-box in most schoolrooms, to keep the bad kids from ganging up on a teacher, taking it, and using it on the teacher), then get close enough to use it. Before the teacher gets shot.
Also, some of these shooter scumb@gs will be smart enough to wear a good gas mask. For about $200 Amazon will sell anyone an Israeli military gas mask and a military-grade filter canister.
Posted by: Gref at June 17, 2018 07:55 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Spun & Murky at June 17, 2018 07:55 PM (4DCSq)
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Ret Buckeye Cop - M-1 carbines are the best.
Probably the "new shooter/female shooter/non-gonzo shooter" rifle of
choice. The boss loves it, and shoots it well.
Recently asked at a fun store and the Kahr/AO repros are now up
towards $1K! They were in the low 800s for years (got mine for a steal,
practically unused, from a young guy raising cash for school). And the
"new Inland" ones are above $1K, I think.
Anyway, love that little rifle. And even with a turret press, easy
to crank out tons of ammo for it (no variation in load, just the
standard one it was built around).
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 07:53 PM
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I am still burning through 4 cases of 1,080 rounds of M1 Carbine that I bought from the CMP back in the day in the 80s. 2 cases left and I seriously doubt that I will shoot all of that ammo before I get too old to keep shooting.
Probably the "new shooter/female shooter/non-gonzo shooter" rifle of
choice. The boss loves it, and shoots it well.
Recently asked at a fun store and the Kahr/AO repros are now up
towards $1K! They were in the low 800s for years (got mine for a steal,
practically unused, from a young guy raising cash for school). And the
"new Inland" ones are above $1K, I think.
Anyway, love that little rifle. And even with a turret press, easy
to crank out tons of ammo for it (no variation in load, just the
standard one it was built around).
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 07:53 PM
----
I am still burning through 4 cases of 1,080 rounds of M1 Carbine that I bought from the CMP back in the day in the 80s. 2 cases left and I seriously doubt that I will shoot all of that ammo before I get too old to keep shooting.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (+Dllb)
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@ Ninjafluff
Good on you!
The XD 40 is the best .40 pistol out there, for me.
...of course, the .40 I still have is a Glock. Because of course it is.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:22 PM (xJa6I)
XD40 service model, the basic with a 4" barrel, is my personal favorite as well. Great balance, easy to get back on target, dependable as all get out.
Have an XD40 Subcompact as well. Your earlier observations are similar to mine. I have big hands, and the extender to use standard 12 shot magazines are required for me, otherwise the standard mag doesn't give me enough to hang on to. And it can be rather snappy, too. I shoot this one at the beginning of the visit to the range, and then switch off. Otherwise my aim starts failing because of the repeated kick, and I start losing my accuracy.
I haven't yet sampled, but am interested in, the single stack XD. Being a lighter gun, I am guessing I will go for the 9mm version.
Hello, my name is LeftCoast Dawg, and I am a gunaholic................
@ Ninjafluff
Good on you!
The XD 40 is the best .40 pistol out there, for me.
...of course, the .40 I still have is a Glock. Because of course it is.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:22 PM (xJa6I)
XD40 service model, the basic with a 4" barrel, is my personal favorite as well. Great balance, easy to get back on target, dependable as all get out.
Have an XD40 Subcompact as well. Your earlier observations are similar to mine. I have big hands, and the extender to use standard 12 shot magazines are required for me, otherwise the standard mag doesn't give me enough to hang on to. And it can be rather snappy, too. I shoot this one at the beginning of the visit to the range, and then switch off. Otherwise my aim starts failing because of the repeated kick, and I start losing my accuracy.
I haven't yet sampled, but am interested in, the single stack XD. Being a lighter gun, I am guessing I will go for the 9mm version.
Hello, my name is LeftCoast Dawg, and I am a gunaholic................
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (UsCnO)
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Speaking of the Navy, I have an SERIOUS issue with the hair-on-fire email in the sidebar article that criticizes the damage control officer for remaining on the bridge and not taking action:
"Fitz's damage control officer was also a woman, and she never left the bridge. She handled the aftermath of the accident remotely, without lifting a finger herself!"
That's what the DCA does in a casualty, you anonymous chucklefuck. They stay in as safe a space as exists with as much communication as still works, and coordinate efforts all around the ship. They don't go shoring up bulkheads any more than a 911 operations center coordinator drives over to a building fire. For all I know, she might have been the only officer who did her job to the letter that night.
"Fitz's damage control officer was also a woman, and she never left the bridge. She handled the aftermath of the accident remotely, without lifting a finger herself!"
That's what the DCA does in a casualty, you anonymous chucklefuck. They stay in as safe a space as exists with as much communication as still works, and coordinate efforts all around the ship. They don't go shoring up bulkheads any more than a 911 operations center coordinator drives over to a building fire. For all I know, she might have been the only officer who did her job to the letter that night.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (fZuhk)
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Hairyback Guy, Springfield rifle is the one mil-surp I still sort of want, and which got away from me on price. For now. And as I reload 30-06 for the M-1, there'd be a great deal of caliber efficiency there. Probably will have to bide my time when I'm in buying mode again, grimace, and pay the piper on the best local deal I can find.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (QDnY+)
119
Were it me, I'd be making those holsters out of pigskin.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (/9B2l)
120
96 I have found that going for a quality hand made
holster that will last a long time and fit well from the start is the
best play. I have pretty much never regretted a high quality holster.
Some past examples are the works of Milt Sparks, R.L. Graham, and Bulman
Gun Leather. These were the stuff back in the day, not sure about
present availability.
My advice would be to check up on who is active now and who is making top quality holsters today.
Posted by: Quint at June 17, 2018 07:47 PM (n13/j)
Don Hume too!
Don's retired but his designs are still damn fine. Oklahoma Gun Leather is still selling his stuff, I think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:51 PM (xJa6I)
Yeah these guys are artisans. That is why I prefaced that my examples were just examples, guys retire etc. Alessi made some really great stuff back in the day. The net says they are still in business but I can't comment on the current product. I would guess it is still top quality. Lou Alessi was the holster king to many, unfortunately he passed away years ago.
holster that will last a long time and fit well from the start is the
best play. I have pretty much never regretted a high quality holster.
Some past examples are the works of Milt Sparks, R.L. Graham, and Bulman
Gun Leather. These were the stuff back in the day, not sure about
present availability.
My advice would be to check up on who is active now and who is making top quality holsters today.
Posted by: Quint at June 17, 2018 07:47 PM (n13/j)
Don Hume too!
Don's retired but his designs are still damn fine. Oklahoma Gun Leather is still selling his stuff, I think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:51 PM (xJa6I)
Yeah these guys are artisans. That is why I prefaced that my examples were just examples, guys retire etc. Alessi made some really great stuff back in the day. The net says they are still in business but I can't comment on the current product. I would guess it is still top quality. Lou Alessi was the holster king to many, unfortunately he passed away years ago.
Posted by: Quint at June 17, 2018 07:57 PM (n13/j)
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Ben Had - when you have a minute, will you please send me Jim's email address? I must have misplaced it. I was thinking about sending the target steel to him USPS.
Posted by: Weasel at June 17, 2018 07:58 PM (Cy3RJ)
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Hello, my name is LeftCoast Dawg, and I am a gunaholic................
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (UsCnO)
"Hi, LeftCoast Dawg"
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (UsCnO)
"Hi, LeftCoast Dawg"
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:58 PM (xJa6I)
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#52,
MA pulled the same shit with bump-stocks and there hasn't been a legal challenge yet. No grandfathering and the letter of the law stated that a bumpstock itself is now a "machinegun" so people with a machinegun license in MA should be able to possess them, but the state sent out a letter (to every licensed gun owner in the state) indicating "we don't give a shit about the law, or your MG license, and we will smash you face into the curb"
This state makes simple possession of even SPENT BRASS a felony without a license. Totally in violation of Heller & MacDonald.
MA pulled the same shit with bump-stocks and there hasn't been a legal challenge yet. No grandfathering and the letter of the law stated that a bumpstock itself is now a "machinegun" so people with a machinegun license in MA should be able to possess them, but the state sent out a letter (to every licensed gun owner in the state) indicating "we don't give a shit about the law, or your MG license, and we will smash you face into the curb"
This state makes simple possession of even SPENT BRASS a felony without a license. Totally in violation of Heller & MacDonald.
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at June 17, 2018 07:59 PM (N5dam)
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Hello, my name is LeftCoast Dawg, and I am a gunaholic................
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (UsCnO)
Howdy, LeftCoast Dawg.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (UsCnO)
Howdy, LeftCoast Dawg.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 07:59 PM (hyuyC)
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Ret Buckeye Cop - M-1 carbines are the best. Probably the "new shooter/female shooter/non-gonzo shooter" rifle of choice. The boss loves it, and shoots it well.
Anyway, love that little rifle. And even with a turret press, easy to crank out tons of ammo for it (no variation in load, just the standard one it was built around).
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 07:53 PM (QDnY+)
A big part of the reason I was looking for a Plainfield was for Mrs. Cop. She finds the AR-15 much too muzzle-heavy for her and I wanted her to have something just in case things get ... sporty. She's has a Beretta Nano 9mm and does pretty well. She has come a long way from finding firearms intimidating to having a CCW permit.
Anyway, love that little rifle. And even with a turret press, easy to crank out tons of ammo for it (no variation in load, just the standard one it was built around).
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 07:53 PM (QDnY+)
A big part of the reason I was looking for a Plainfield was for Mrs. Cop. She finds the AR-15 much too muzzle-heavy for her and I wanted her to have something just in case things get ... sporty. She's has a Beretta Nano 9mm and does pretty well. She has come a long way from finding firearms intimidating to having a CCW permit.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 08:01 PM (5Yee7)
126
Speaking of the Navy, I have an SERIOUS issue with
the hair-on-fire email in the sidebar article that criticizes the damage
control officer for remaining on the bridge and not taking action:
"Fitz's damage control officer was also a woman, and she never left
the bridge. She handled the aftermath of the accident remotely, without
lifting a finger herself!"
That's what the DCA does in a casualty, you anonymous chucklefuck.
They stay in as safe a space as exists with as much communication as
still works, and coordinate efforts all around the ship. They don't go
shoring up bulkheads any more than a 911 operations center coordinator
drives over to a building fire. For all I know, she might have been the
only officer who did her job to the letter that night.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM
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Yep it is a hit piece.
DC Central controls the casualty and response and the DCA does not go running around the ship shoring up bulkheads, controlling flooding deploying peri jet inductors and diving into flooded compartments rescuing people.
the hair-on-fire email in the sidebar article that criticizes the damage
control officer for remaining on the bridge and not taking action:
"Fitz's damage control officer was also a woman, and she never left
the bridge. She handled the aftermath of the accident remotely, without
lifting a finger herself!"
That's what the DCA does in a casualty, you anonymous chucklefuck.
They stay in as safe a space as exists with as much communication as
still works, and coordinate efforts all around the ship. They don't go
shoring up bulkheads any more than a 911 operations center coordinator
drives over to a building fire. For all I know, she might have been the
only officer who did her job to the letter that night.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM
---
Yep it is a hit piece.
DC Central controls the casualty and response and the DCA does not go running around the ship shoring up bulkheads, controlling flooding deploying peri jet inductors and diving into flooded compartments rescuing people.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 17, 2018 08:01 PM (+Dllb)
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"They didn't care when Kate Steinle was separated from her parents."
True, the party that gave us CPS so that a mother can be arrested and separated from her children if she either spanks one, or lets another go unaccompanied to the neighborhood park.
The Party that gave us no-fault divorce and abortion is complaining about separating children from their parents.
The mistake is in listening to them. Their rhetoric is not about making a rational argument, its all about manipulating you.
True, the party that gave us CPS so that a mother can be arrested and separated from her children if she either spanks one, or lets another go unaccompanied to the neighborhood park.
The Party that gave us no-fault divorce and abortion is complaining about separating children from their parents.
The mistake is in listening to them. Their rhetoric is not about making a rational argument, its all about manipulating you.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at June 17, 2018 08:02 PM (lD3vL)
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Mark Edwards, I've been evangelical here about the CZ-83, and remain a huge fan. Of course I don't know if it's heavier or bigger than the other platforms you mentioned. But it's a terrific natural shooter.
Some day I want to get a 97 too. Between that and a Sig P220 for a non-1911 45ACP.
Some day I want to get a 97 too. Between that and a Sig P220 for a non-1911 45ACP.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:02 PM (QDnY+)
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I always had you figured for the Mateba Model 6 Unica type.
Posted by: hog martin
well ... now that you mention it ... um, no.
Posted by: hog martin
well ... now that you mention it ... um, no.
Posted by: Adriane the Terrible Boating Accident Critic ... at June 17, 2018 08:03 PM (AoK0a)
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Andrews Custom Leather in FL did a very nice little belt holster with thumb-snap for my Colt Magnum Carry.
Don't use it much, of course, but maybe some day.
Don't use it much, of course, but maybe some day.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:04 PM (QDnY+)
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Navy damage control. As a former DCA, I'd love to comment, but it's below 95 degrees outside and I have to mow.
Long sleeves, pants in boots with a specially made gaiter to slow down chiggers, and a broad hat over the hearing protection.
See you later.
Long sleeves, pants in boots with a specially made gaiter to slow down chiggers, and a broad hat over the hearing protection.
See you later.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 08:04 PM (hyuyC)
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128 Mark Edwards, I've been evangelical here about the CZ-83, and remain a huge fan. Of course I don't know if it's heavier or bigger than the other platforms you mentioned. But it's a terrific natural shooter.
Some day I want to get a 97 too. Between that and a Sig P220 for a non-1911 45ACP.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:02 PM (QDnY+)
I have an 82 in 9 MAK. It feels smaller than it actually is (Grump corrected me when I said it was smaller than my XD9. It's the same length).
So I really would like an 83 in 380. I don't have a huge need for the cartridge, but it might be a fun range/wife toy.
Some day I want to get a 97 too. Between that and a Sig P220 for a non-1911 45ACP.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:02 PM (QDnY+)
I have an 82 in 9 MAK. It feels smaller than it actually is (Grump corrected me when I said it was smaller than my XD9. It's the same length).
So I really would like an 83 in 380. I don't have a huge need for the cartridge, but it might be a fun range/wife toy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 08:04 PM (xJa6I)
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I own an XDS .45 with 4" barrel. I find it too big for concealed carry and two small to fire accurately with the .45 recoil. It tries to do two things and neither very well. I can't imagine what a 3" barrel would be like in .45. Just my two cents. I still love it though.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 08:04 PM (rnXGe)
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I own several XD pistols. One of which is the XD sub-compact 9mm. It is one of my regular carry pistols. With the compact magazine (13) you need to have a good grip. It is much snappier in recoil than a pistol with 4" or longer slide. The full length magazines give you a full size grip and control is much easier. I carry with the short mag and have a 16 rnd magazine for spare. I added tritium night sights to this and some other of my defense pistols. Reliable with all ammo that I've tried. I have used XD 9 Tactical and XD 45 Tactical pistols in competition, and like carrying the same type of pistol for personal defense use. as with all short pistols, accuracy and proficiency require practice. Practice drawing from concealment and moving while shooting. CCW classes are not training for defense. Get some good training in defensive pistol use from a good instructor.
Posted by: JJ at June 17, 2018 08:06 PM (kTMjU)
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The Party that gave us no-fault divorce and abortion is complaining about separating children from their parents.
Sen. Jack Reed was on TV claiming Trump was politicizing immigrant children.
The Party that gave us no-fault divorce and abortion is complaining about separating children from their parents.
Sen. Jack Reed was on TV claiming Trump was politicizing immigrant children.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2018 08:06 PM (IqV8l)
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@Brian in New Orleans is 100% correct.
We own one because my wife wanted one. But the recoil is so stout, she won't carry it.
We own one because my wife wanted one. But the recoil is so stout, she won't carry it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 08:06 PM (xJa6I)
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Ret Buckeye Cop, good for you/her.
My boss has wimped out consistently on "too heavy" (she works out a lot and is thin but not weak, so this does not impress me) - which has led to several purchases that ended up as ..... um, more guns for me (how did THAT happen?).
For handguns I think the Smith Model 60 might finally pass muster. The CZ-83 was "too heavy", as of course all the full-size handguns are. And there's the M and P 22 which of course is light and she likes. I've bought the best expanding 22LR round for it and if the Model 60 doesn't take at least she'll have a 22 with 10 rounds that's easy to shoot and load.
My boss has wimped out consistently on "too heavy" (she works out a lot and is thin but not weak, so this does not impress me) - which has led to several purchases that ended up as ..... um, more guns for me (how did THAT happen?).
For handguns I think the Smith Model 60 might finally pass muster. The CZ-83 was "too heavy", as of course all the full-size handguns are. And there's the M and P 22 which of course is light and she likes. I've bought the best expanding 22LR round for it and if the Model 60 doesn't take at least she'll have a 22 with 10 rounds that's easy to shoot and load.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:07 PM (QDnY+)
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I also have a full-size XD in .45 with 5" barrel. Best money I've ever spent on a handgun, 2nd overall only to my Ruger RPR in 6.5 Creedmoor.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 08:08 PM (rnXGe)
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Hairyback Guy, Springfield rifle is the one mil-surp I still sort of want, and which got away from me on price. For now. And as I reload 30-06 for the M-1, there'd be a great deal of caliber efficiency there. Probably will have to bide my time when I'm in buying mode again, grimace, and pay the piper on the best local deal I can find.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (QDnY+)
Yup...back when I was young(er), I acquired a 1903 Springfield LN, then found the Smith Corona dusting away in a pawn shop all Bubba'ed up with sporter stock and scope and a friend gifted me with the Remington as he was a hunter, not a history buff.
Solid shooters, tough, and the old and new sights from model to model show how the thinking changed over the years.
I am still on the look out for a 1903 Springfield not LN just so I can have both.
The fun is in looking, finding, then shooting, so enjoy.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (QDnY+)
Yup...back when I was young(er), I acquired a 1903 Springfield LN, then found the Smith Corona dusting away in a pawn shop all Bubba'ed up with sporter stock and scope and a friend gifted me with the Remington as he was a hunter, not a history buff.
Solid shooters, tough, and the old and new sights from model to model show how the thinking changed over the years.
I am still on the look out for a 1903 Springfield not LN just so I can have both.
The fun is in looking, finding, then shooting, so enjoy.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2018 08:08 PM (EoRCO)
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@rhomboid
Have you tried the Makarov on the boss? It's thin, not too heavy and it shoots like a laser.
Have you tried the Makarov on the boss? It's thin, not too heavy and it shoots like a laser.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 08:09 PM (xJa6I)
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Speaking of the Navy, I have an SERIOUS issue with the hair-on-fire email in the sidebar article that criticizes the damage control officer for remaining on the bridge and not taking action:"
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I'm a bit blown away by the navy gal coverup.
"Rear Adm. Brian Fort, who conducted a Navy investigation of the crash, testified for the prosecution that the SPS 67 radar in the CIC was set to the wrong pulse, which added what is known as clutter, or fuzziness, to the picture. He said that through his interviews with dozens of sailors on the Fitzgerald that night, the CIC had learned to live with it.
"Quite frankly, they accepted the clutter on the radar and did absolutely nothing about it," he said in testimony by telephone."
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I'm a bit blown away by the navy gal coverup.
"Rear Adm. Brian Fort, who conducted a Navy investigation of the crash, testified for the prosecution that the SPS 67 radar in the CIC was set to the wrong pulse, which added what is known as clutter, or fuzziness, to the picture. He said that through his interviews with dozens of sailors on the Fitzgerald that night, the CIC had learned to live with it.
"Quite frankly, they accepted the clutter on the radar and did absolutely nothing about it," he said in testimony by telephone."
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 17, 2018 08:09 PM (FOPyv)
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I mean *with the boss, not 'on'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 08:09 PM (xJa6I)
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138 I also have a full-size XD in .45 with 5" barrel. Best money I've ever spent on a handgun, 2nd overall only to my Ruger RPR in 6.5 Creedmoor.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 08:08 PM (rnXGe)
Yup.
In my 'one pistol' nightmare, I don't know which I'd choose between my Glock 21 and my XD 45.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 08:08 PM (rnXGe)
Yup.
In my 'one pistol' nightmare, I don't know which I'd choose between my Glock 21 and my XD 45.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 08:10 PM (xJa6I)
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Mark I haven't checked for a few weeks but not long ago AIM Surplus had excellent condition surplus 83s for a good price. Got my one decent condition surplus from them, and ended up buying a new one out of a fun store when I stumbled on it just a bit later (pretty sure it's from their last small special run of 83s done a few years ago). New one is the only gun that I have that was cleaned, function checked, and put away.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:10 PM (QDnY+)
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"DC Central controls the casualty and response and the DCA does not go running around the ship shoring up bulkheads, controlling flooding deploying peri jet inductors and diving into flooded compartments rescuing people. "
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In the marvel cinematic universe they do, when they're girls.
girl power!
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In the marvel cinematic universe they do, when they're girls.
girl power!
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 17, 2018 08:12 PM (FOPyv)
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Yeah the XDS 45 seems to get a lot of non-love.
The XD line overall is excellent, as some comments here today attest. XD9 "Tactical" (5-inch barrel) was my first gun purchase. Love it. Here in commiefornia not easy to get anything but the basic XD line (XDS and XDM lines not on the roster).
The XD line overall is excellent, as some comments here today attest. XD9 "Tactical" (5-inch barrel) was my first gun purchase. Love it. Here in commiefornia not easy to get anything but the basic XD line (XDS and XDM lines not on the roster).
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:12 PM (QDnY+)
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@ rhomboid
You're killing me I just bought two more pistols. I have GOT to sell/trade some before I start raiding AIM surplus.
In that vein, is anyone willing to trade a Kahr 380 for a CZ 83? Willing to drive to WA or OR and will give cash as well!
You're killing me
I just bought two more pistols. I have GOT to sell/trade some before I start raiding AIM surplus.
In that vein, is anyone willing to trade a Kahr 380 for a CZ 83? Willing to drive to WA or OR and will give cash as well!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 08:12 PM (xJa6I)
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Goodnight
( and off to dream in a cloud of gunsmoke)
( and off to dream in a cloud of gunsmoke)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2018 08:13 PM (pHfeF)
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They didn't care when Kate Steinle was separated from her parents.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 17, 2018 07:19 PM (Ndje9)
Yes, this families separated nonsense is the latest wall to wall hysteria of the left. If they don't want to be separated stay south of the border. And Ivanka tweeted a Happy Father's Day to her father and husband and of course the left jumped all over her for it. I really hope that all of the hate she gets opens her and her dippy husband's eyes to what the left really is
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 17, 2018 07:19 PM (Ndje9)
Yes, this families separated nonsense is the latest wall to wall hysteria of the left. If they don't want to be separated stay south of the border. And Ivanka tweeted a Happy Father's Day to her father and husband and of course the left jumped all over her for it. I really hope that all of the hate she gets opens her and her dippy husband's eyes to what the left really is
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 17, 2018 08:14 PM (SiINZ)
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Night Skip
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 08:14 PM (xJa6I)
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Had to leave for a bit but thank YOU for the chuckle MH.
You did the hard part.
Was discussing new microphones, didn't we just do that?, with Gary.
Neumann Kms 105's.
I know, not gubs but hey, focus on the 105 part.
My question to him was "Do we really want people to hear THAT well what I actually sound like?"
You did the hard part.
Was discussing new microphones, didn't we just do that?, with Gary.
Neumann Kms 105's.
I know, not gubs but hey, focus on the 105 part.
My question to him was "Do we really want people to hear THAT well what I actually sound like?"
Posted by: teej at June 17, 2018 08:14 PM (Qirt6)
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My boss has wimped out consistently on "too heavy" ... I think the Smith Model 60 might finally pass muster.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:07 PM (QDnY+)
When we were looking for her concealed carry handgun, she DID NOT like the .38 snubnoses I was trying to point her towards. She fell in love with the Beretta Nano and I concur that it's a nice little pistol although she gets fatigued after shooting about 30 rounds through it. That's why I got her a Ruger SR-22 for practice and she likes it a lot.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:07 PM (QDnY+)
When we were looking for her concealed carry handgun, she DID NOT like the .38 snubnoses I was trying to point her towards. She fell in love with the Beretta Nano and I concur that it's a nice little pistol although she gets fatigued after shooting about 30 rounds through it. That's why I got her a Ruger SR-22 for practice and she likes it a lot.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 08:15 PM (5Yee7)
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I think I'm heading to bed, too. Have a nice week everyone.
Posted by: Weasel at June 17, 2018 08:15 PM (MVjcR)
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Brian I'm not surprised, the XDs are just nice simple reliable guns. Viva Croatia!
Some day down the line I hope to have a full 45ACP line-up - in addition to the 1911, an XD, a Sig 220, and and CZ-97.
Some day down the line I hope to have a full 45ACP line-up - in addition to the 1911, an XD, a Sig 220, and and CZ-97.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:15 PM (QDnY+)
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"Quite frankly, they accepted the clutter on the radar and did absolutely nothing about it," he said in testimony by telephone."
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast
Testimony by telephone?
"Quite frankly, they accepted the clutter on the radar and did absolutely nothing about it," he said in testimony by telephone."
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast
Testimony by telephone?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2018 08:16 PM (IqV8l)
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Night Weasel, sleep tight on Weasel Acres
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 08:16 PM (xJa6I)
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NGU
re: ABM ships.*
What a use for a mid-sized freighter. Missiles in VLS equipped boxes running down the deck. Mounted higher forward and tied together four CONEX with phased array radar antennas to give 360 coverage. Aft of ABM VLS boxes more CONEX acting as a hanger for two SH-60s and two AH-1s for ASW and anti-piracy. Can't forget the CIWS installations or chaff/flare dispensers though. Or a platoon of Marines.
If we want to get really frisky with this design concept, forward of the phased array boxes another hanger and pad with ski-launch for a couple Harrier IIs equipped with AIM-9s to give the ship anti-air capability.
And to do this for one freighter would still be far cheaper than to build one LCS I bet.
* I am of course riffing off from a quick Harrier design put forward after Operation Corporate that never went anywhere. Though the merchant ship Atlantic Conveyor on its journey to that conflict did have a Sea Harrier FRS.1 on ready alert.
re: ABM ships.*
What a use for a mid-sized freighter. Missiles in VLS equipped boxes running down the deck. Mounted higher forward and tied together four CONEX with phased array radar antennas to give 360 coverage. Aft of ABM VLS boxes more CONEX acting as a hanger for two SH-60s and two AH-1s for ASW and anti-piracy. Can't forget the CIWS installations or chaff/flare dispensers though. Or a platoon of Marines.
If we want to get really frisky with this design concept, forward of the phased array boxes another hanger and pad with ski-launch for a couple Harrier IIs equipped with AIM-9s to give the ship anti-air capability.
And to do this for one freighter would still be far cheaper than to build one LCS I bet.
* I am of course riffing off from a quick Harrier design put forward after Operation Corporate that never went anywhere. Though the merchant ship Atlantic Conveyor on its journey to that conflict did have a Sea Harrier FRS.1 on ready alert.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:16 PM (KB4SV)
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 17, 2018 08:16 PM (FOPyv)
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Always had a hankerin' for a CZ83, maybe even one in .32.
But first, a SIG P365. Yeah, I know. I don't care.
But first, a SIG P365. Yeah, I know. I don't care.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 17, 2018 08:17 PM (CeJUf)
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@Brian in New Orleans is 100% correct.
We own one because my wife wanted one. But the recoil is so stout, she won't carry it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 08:06 PM (xJa6I)
I've decided that if I ever decided to carry full-time I'm just going with a mini .380 even though it doesn't pack much punch. I'd rather be able to get off 4-5 well-aimed shots than one well-aimed .45 and four that'll go who knows where. Unless I'm trying to deafen them with the .45.
The XDS makes a fine glove-box accessory tho.
@Brian in New Orleans is 100% correct.
We own one because my wife wanted one. But the recoil is so stout, she won't carry it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 08:06 PM (xJa6I)
I've decided that if I ever decided to carry full-time I'm just going with a mini .380 even though it doesn't pack much punch. I'd rather be able to get off 4-5 well-aimed shots than one well-aimed .45 and four that'll go who knows where. Unless I'm trying to deafen them with the .45.
The XDS makes a fine glove-box accessory tho.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 08:18 PM (rnXGe)
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Buckeye the M ampersand P 22 is similar to the SR-22, just a bit bigger (to simulate the full size M and P line, I think). Polymer, so really light, of course.
Nothing wrong with a light easy to shoot 22 with 10 rounds - better than a sharp stick!
Nothing wrong with a light easy to shoot 22 with 10 rounds - better than a sharp stick!
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:18 PM (QDnY+)
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They didn't care when Kate Steinle was separated from her parents.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 17, 2018 07:19 PM (Ndje9)
Yes, this families separated nonsense is the latest wall to wall hysteria of the left. If they don't want to be separated stay south of the border. And Ivanka tweeted a Happy Father's Day to her father and husband and of course the left jumped all over her for it. I really hope that all of the hate she gets opens her and her dippy husband's eyes to what the left really is
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 17, 2018 08:14 PM (SiINZ)
It's all bulshit. They are only separating "children" from their "Parents" at the Border if
1) The parentship can NOT be ascertained
2) The parents are arrest for breaking American Law
3) The children are considered to be in danger
If an American Citizen is arrested, the children are also separated from said parent
If an American Child is in danger, said child is separated from that adult
Where does the left get off thinking illegals get a different deal? Does the left even think?
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 17, 2018 07:19 PM (Ndje9)
Yes, this families separated nonsense is the latest wall to wall hysteria of the left. If they don't want to be separated stay south of the border. And Ivanka tweeted a Happy Father's Day to her father and husband and of course the left jumped all over her for it. I really hope that all of the hate she gets opens her and her dippy husband's eyes to what the left really is
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 17, 2018 08:14 PM (SiINZ)
It's all bulshit. They are only separating "children" from their "Parents" at the Border if
1) The parentship can NOT be ascertained
2) The parents are arrest for breaking American Law
3) The children are considered to be in danger
If an American Citizen is arrested, the children are also separated from said parent
If an American Child is in danger, said child is separated from that adult
Where does the left get off thinking illegals get a different deal? Does the left even think?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2018 08:19 PM (Ydx5u)
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g'early evenin', 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 17, 2018 08:20 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Off the reservation at June 17, 2018 08:21 PM (vWMNq)
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Was the admiral being interviewed TDY to Bahrain or Diego Garcia maybe? So video-teleconference?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:21 PM (KB4SV)
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146
Yeah the XDS 45 seems to get a lot of non-love.
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It's fun, but doesn't fit in a pocket and the normal magazine makes it hard to hold. The extended 7-rd mag makes it silly big (the grip is longer than the slide). Fits nicely in the glove box tho.
Yeah the XDS 45 seems to get a lot of non-love.
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It's fun, but doesn't fit in a pocket and the normal magazine makes it hard to hold. The extended 7-rd mag makes it silly big (the grip is longer than the slide). Fits nicely in the glove box tho.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 08:21 PM (rnXGe)
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Skookumchuk, the .32ACP CZ-83s are fairly pricey, because not many made. If retropox shows up, he might have some ideas - he's the king of .32 collecting, though he focuses on pre-war models.
Mark, I'm sure the Mak would suffer the same verdict as the 83 ("too heavy").
And I'm trying to hold the line on caliber creep. Of course, THAT didn't stop me from buying the 83 in .380. An IG investigation and several congressional committees are looking at this lapse in policy .....
Mark, I'm sure the Mak would suffer the same verdict as the 83 ("too heavy").
And I'm trying to hold the line on caliber creep. Of course, THAT didn't stop me from buying the 83 in .380. An IG investigation and several congressional committees are looking at this lapse in policy .....
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:22 PM (QDnY+)
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And I'm trying to hold the line on caliber creep. Of course, THAT didn't stop me from buying the 83 in .380. An IG investigation and several congressional committees are looking at this lapse in policy .....
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:22 PM (QDnY+)
Don't give them my name...
I'm still thinking about a 6.5 build.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:22 PM (QDnY+)
Don't give them my name...
I'm still thinking about a 6.5 build.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 08:23 PM (xJa6I)
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Brian I'm not surprised, the XDs are just nice simple reliable guns. Viva Croatia!
Some day down the line I hope to have a full 45ACP line-up - in addition to the 1911, an XD, a Sig 220, and and CZ-97.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:15 PM (QDnY+)
My full-size XD was the $387 special from Grabagun. Turns out it was the rarer model with slide/thumb safety that I guess not too many people wanted.
Brian I'm not surprised, the XDs are just nice simple reliable guns. Viva Croatia!
Some day down the line I hope to have a full 45ACP line-up - in addition to the 1911, an XD, a Sig 220, and and CZ-97.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:15 PM (QDnY+)
My full-size XD was the $387 special from Grabagun. Turns out it was the rarer model with slide/thumb safety that I guess not too many people wanted.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 08:23 PM (rnXGe)
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Al that money being wasted on North Korea could be going to help Gays and Lesbians around the world !!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at June 17, 2018 08:24 PM (qM84C)
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Wildly off topic, can someone please tell me why on God's green earth would a 50+ yo woman think it's ok to wear short shorts, low cut top, over the counter hair extensions and pink glitter eye shadow? For father's day dinner. Not like she is model material. Grammar and mumbling don't help. Sorry to be so catty. Am I out of bounds?
Posted by: Infidel at June 17, 2018 08:24 PM (LBSeG)
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Anna I like your idea of a no-frills ABM platform ship. Precisely the logical idea that flows from the admiral's lament that the currently highly capable ships are tethered to a simple and static mission.
You know, sort of the *sensible version* of the LCS *concept*.
But we know it would never happen.
You know, sort of the *sensible version* of the LCS *concept*.
But we know it would never happen.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:25 PM (QDnY+)
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It is a bit of a hit piece on [i[Fitzgerald and the one officer who did their job, the DCA, since 7th Fleet managed to damage two Aegis cruisers along with getting sailors on two cans killed during that time frame. The command rot is further up the chain than the Lieutenants.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:25 PM (KB4SV)
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Hello, my name is LeftCoast Dawg, and I am a gunaholic................
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (UsCnO)
"Hi, LeftCoast Dawg"
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:58 PM (xJa6I)
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Hello, my name is LeftCoast Dawg, and I am a gunaholic................
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (UsCnO)
Howdy, LeftCoast Dawg.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 07:59 PM (hyuyC)
Once, all I had was a BB gun. It seemed innocent at the time. But then the .22 Marlin my dad gave me to use just overwhelmed the thrill for the BB gun.
And then, my Dad forced me (ok, I streched that one pretty badly, it was closer me begging to go) to duck hunting, and said, "if you can't hit the first shot with a bird, you don't deserve a second chance. So you are going to use this Henry single-shot 12 gauge.
So I shot it for the first time, at age 10. After I picked myself off the ground and my shoulder quit barking at me, I began to work through the pain of the worst kick ever, and finally began hitting those green-winged teal and mallards as they flew by.
But did the kick stop me? No. It just led to the Mossberg 500 12 gauge, the first gun I bought with my own hard-earned money. And my fondness for dead birds in season turned out of control.
And after the Mossberg, I started craving mallard and pheasant. And then, venison. My Dad, like a heroin pusher, let me use his 30.06 1917 Enfield that he sporterized. It took 2 years, but finally, the deer lost.
I was completely out of control. I would go into the woods for days. And for decades, it only gets worse. And then I lost it: I fired my first AR-15. Pure orgasmic delight. And zero kick!
So I am hopeless, I admit it.
And now, I wonder: is it normal to enjoy the smell of baked duck breasts, layered with sliced apples, sauerkraut, and plums together (@325 degrees for 35 - 45 minutes) with the smell of Hoppe's No. 9 in the air?
Hello, my name is LeftCoast Dawg, and I am a gunaholic................
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (UsCnO)
"Hi, LeftCoast Dawg"
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 07:58 PM (xJa6I)
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Hello, my name is LeftCoast Dawg, and I am a gunaholic................
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 07:56 PM (UsCnO)
Howdy, LeftCoast Dawg.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 17, 2018 07:59 PM (hyuyC)
Once, all I had was a BB gun. It seemed innocent at the time. But then the .22 Marlin my dad gave me to use just overwhelmed the thrill for the BB gun.
And then, my Dad forced me (ok, I streched that one pretty badly, it was closer me begging to go) to duck hunting, and said, "if you can't hit the first shot with a bird, you don't deserve a second chance. So you are going to use this Henry single-shot 12 gauge.
So I shot it for the first time, at age 10. After I picked myself off the ground and my shoulder quit barking at me, I began to work through the pain of the worst kick ever, and finally began hitting those green-winged teal and mallards as they flew by.
But did the kick stop me? No. It just led to the Mossberg 500 12 gauge, the first gun I bought with my own hard-earned money. And my fondness for dead birds in season turned out of control.
And after the Mossberg, I started craving mallard and pheasant. And then, venison. My Dad, like a heroin pusher, let me use his 30.06 1917 Enfield that he sporterized. It took 2 years, but finally, the deer lost.
I was completely out of control. I would go into the woods for days. And for decades, it only gets worse. And then I lost it: I fired my first AR-15. Pure orgasmic delight. And zero kick!
So I am hopeless, I admit it.
And now, I wonder: is it normal to enjoy the smell of baked duck breasts, layered with sliced apples, sauerkraut, and plums together (@325 degrees for 35 - 45 minutes) with the smell of Hoppe's No. 9 in the air?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 08:26 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:26 PM (QDnY+)
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Rhomboid, we never got Zumwalt's Surface Control Ship either.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:26 PM (KB4SV)
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Wildly off topic, can someone please tell me why on God's green earth
would a 50+ yo woman think it's ok to wear short shorts, low cut top,
over the counter hair extensions and pink glitter eye shadow? For
father's day dinner. Not like she is model material. Grammar and
mumbling don't help. Sorry to be so catty. Am I out of bounds?
Because no matter what the situation, it's all about her.
would a 50+ yo woman think it's ok to wear short shorts, low cut top,
over the counter hair extensions and pink glitter eye shadow? For
father's day dinner. Not like she is model material. Grammar and
mumbling don't help. Sorry to be so catty. Am I out of bounds?
Because no matter what the situation, it's all about her.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at June 17, 2018 08:27 PM (IcT7t)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 17, 2018 08:27 PM (EyPfd)
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"177 Wildly off topic, can someone please tell me why on God's green earth
would a 50+ yo woman think it's ok to wear short shorts, low cut top,
over the counter hair extensions and pink glitter eye shadow? For
father's day dinner. Not like she is model material. Grammar and
mumbling don't help. Sorry to be so catty. Am I out of bounds?"
she probably wanted to look sexy for her husband on the one day a year he gets a blow job?
would a 50+ yo woman think it's ok to wear short shorts, low cut top,
over the counter hair extensions and pink glitter eye shadow? For
father's day dinner. Not like she is model material. Grammar and
mumbling don't help. Sorry to be so catty. Am I out of bounds?"
she probably wanted to look sexy for her husband on the one day a year he gets a blow job?
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 17, 2018 08:27 PM (FOPyv)
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Anna I fear you are right. 7th Fleet commander got canned, right? The fact that *two* such inexcusable collisions took place within a year is hard to attribute to chance. And there was that tidbit recently about the tiny % of Navy personnel who had basic seamanship skills (though I don't know if that was bogus in a substantive sense, in context, or not).
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:28 PM (QDnY+)
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Sorry to be so catty. Am I out of bounds?"
Not as long as you don't post pictures of it, no.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June
she is catty unless she posts the pics. women always judge these things differently than men. even if she is not model material, being easy could get her points.
Not as long as you don't post pictures of it, no.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June
she is catty unless she posts the pics. women always judge these things differently than men. even if she is not model material, being easy could get her points.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 17, 2018 08:28 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:28 PM (KB4SV)
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I just realized I quoted "on the bridge" from the linked article, but that I don't know enough about the Burke-class to know where CCS (I guess that's what they call DC Central now) is or if it's on the bridge, and the source isn't remotely credible. From the Navy's report, the DCA was asleep in her rack at the time of collision, the collision woke her up, and she dressed and reported to CCS to coordinate DC.
https://tinyurl.com/y7fxw274
https://tinyurl.com/y7fxw274
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 08:28 PM (fZuhk)
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...can someone please tell me why on God's green earth would a 50+ yo woman think it's ok to wear short shorts, low cut top, over the counter hair extensions and pink glitter eye shadow?
Some of us forget sometimes that we're 29 and not 19 anymore. And some forget all the time.
Some of us forget sometimes that we're 29 and not 19 anymore. And some forget all the time.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 17, 2018 08:29 PM (7oUUT)
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171 some 50somethings still look good. I met a woman who I assumed was 38 or so. She was 55.
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2018 08:29 PM (3nTd6)
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Because no matter what the situation, it's all about her.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at June 17, 2018 08:27
Duh, that makes all the sense. Little bro always has called his gf's dirty legs.
*sigh*
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at June 17, 2018 08:27
Duh, that makes all the sense. Little bro always has called his gf's dirty legs.
*sigh*
Posted by: Infidel at June 17, 2018 08:30 PM (LBSeG)
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Now deploy the assault Corgies...I repeat, now deploy the assault Corgies...
Evening roons and roonettez!!! Happy Fathers Day to all the roonz who have been fortunate enough to find someone to procreate with.
Evening roons and roonettez!!! Happy Fathers Day to all the roonz who have been fortunate enough to find someone to procreate with.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at June 17, 2018 08:30 PM (vbvxt)
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Colonial Corgi Marines, when you really need to get low and dirty to fight the alien xenomorphs.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:31 PM (KB4SV)
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"I just realized I quoted "on the bridge" from the linked article, but that I don't know enough about the Burke-class to know where CCS (I guess that's what they call DC Central now) is or if it's on the bridge, "
Central Control Station.
EOOW, and remote control of both engine rooms, and the Damage Control Console are all there,.
Correct place for the DCA to go to in that circumstance.
Central Control Station.
EOOW, and remote control of both engine rooms, and the Damage Control Console are all there,.
Correct place for the DCA to go to in that circumstance.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 17, 2018 08:32 PM (EyPfd)
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Wildly off topic, can someone please tell me why on God's green earth would a 50+ yo woman think it's ok to wear short shorts, low cut top, over the counter hair extensions and pink glitter eye shadow? For father's day dinner. Not like she is model material. Grammar and mumbling don't help. Sorry to be so catty. Am I out of bounds?
Posted by: Infidel at June 17, 2018 08:24 PM (LBSeG)
Whores gotta whore.....it's what they do.
Posted by: Infidel at June 17, 2018 08:24 PM (LBSeG)
Whores gotta whore.....it's what they do.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 17, 2018 08:32 PM (EoRCO)
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Left Coast Dawg, lose the 'kraut and it sounds like a winner.
It kind of depends infidel.
Did your man enjoy your new look?
I keed and you know it.
Couldn't have been you as your only 29.
Did her man enjoy her look? All that should have mattered to her.
If so, just shake your head and silently **it takes all types**
It kind of depends infidel.
Did your man enjoy your new look?
I keed and you know it.
Couldn't have been you as your only 29.
Did her man enjoy her look? All that should have mattered to her.
If so, just shake your head and silently **it takes all types**
Posted by: teej at June 17, 2018 08:33 PM (Qirt6)
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This truly unhinged - and ugly - faux moral panic over family separation in border detention has something different about it, to me. It's uglier, more offensive, more dishonest/stupid, than the standard unending idiocy now assaulting Americans from the commanding heights of the culture.
I'm tempted to sigh and console myself with "this means Moar Trump" - which it might - but I'd really like a less insane and contemptible popular culture and "elite". Moar Trump is a means to an end (and I have not the slightest problem, especially non-substantive, with Trump, given the situation), not an end in itself.
OK, so let's review the Dems mid-term campaign themes again -
tax increases
gun grabbing*
amnesty
special privileges for illegals*
unhinged general hate
rabid robotic opposition to all Trump foreign policy moves
* now, with New/Improved/Increased ugliness, venom, and menace towards normal people
I'm tempted to sigh and console myself with "this means Moar Trump" - which it might - but I'd really like a less insane and contemptible popular culture and "elite". Moar Trump is a means to an end (and I have not the slightest problem, especially non-substantive, with Trump, given the situation), not an end in itself.
OK, so let's review the Dems mid-term campaign themes again -
tax increases
gun grabbing*
amnesty
special privileges for illegals*
unhinged general hate
rabid robotic opposition to all Trump foreign policy moves
* now, with New/Improved/Increased ugliness, venom, and menace towards normal people
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:34 PM (QDnY+)
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OT--No; I am not going to see the movie "First Reformed" This is the way a friend described it to me:
The Atheist director pictures Christians as pious bores, who are intent on destroying the planet. The protagonist minister is losing his faith. The villain is a evil white industrialist who supports the church, because of course churches always have funding from corporations??!!!. The ministers small congregation is mostly made up of women he has sex with and rejected or women who want to have sex with him, He meets a woman whose husband has committed suicide. She's pregnant and (How subtle is this-her name is Mary?!!) The pastor is going to don the suicide vest of the wacko environmentalist husband and because he has cancer and going to die anyway and will blow up all the pious Christians at the 250th rededication of the church because they are destroying the planet by their lack of environmentalism, and so are just like Muslim jihadists.
The Atheist director pictures Christians as pious bores, who are intent on destroying the planet. The protagonist minister is losing his faith. The villain is a evil white industrialist who supports the church, because of course churches always have funding from corporations??!!!. The ministers small congregation is mostly made up of women he has sex with and rejected or women who want to have sex with him, He meets a woman whose husband has committed suicide. She's pregnant and (How subtle is this-her name is Mary?!!) The pastor is going to don the suicide vest of the wacko environmentalist husband and because he has cancer and going to die anyway and will blow up all the pious Christians at the 250th rededication of the church because they are destroying the planet by their lack of environmentalism, and so are just like Muslim jihadists.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2018 08:35 PM (0/+vJ)
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there should soon be M-1 Carbines at CMP, once the guns overseas make it to them, and they get gone over. there are several hundred thousand over in Korea, for one.
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This is more for last week gun thread: BF insisted we go to the range the other night. I'm glad he pressed because we had a good time. He brought the .22 Henry and he reloaded by pulling that crank thing. It was the first time I used a scope and did pretty good. How could you not though, with a scope?
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2018 08:35 PM (3nTd6)
Posted by: Ozzy at June 17, 2018 08:35 PM (UdKB7)
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Happy father's day, morons.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 17, 2018 08:36 PM (5jVnA)
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"It's all bulshit. They are only separating "children" from their "Parents" at the Border if
1) The parentship can NOT be ascertained
2) The parents are arrest for breaking American Law
3) The children are considered to be in danger
If an American Citizen is arrested, the children are also separated from said parent
If an American Child is in danger, said child is separated from that adult
Where does the left get off thinking illegals get a different deal? Does the left even think? Posted by: Nevergiveup"
The object of course is to end all arrests--and all borders.
ps; Not only did they not care when Kate Steinle was separated from her parents, it was by a federal fugitive with a federal firearm.
1) The parentship can NOT be ascertained
2) The parents are arrest for breaking American Law
3) The children are considered to be in danger
If an American Citizen is arrested, the children are also separated from said parent
If an American Child is in danger, said child is separated from that adult
Where does the left get off thinking illegals get a different deal? Does the left even think? Posted by: Nevergiveup"
The object of course is to end all arrests--and all borders.
ps; Not only did they not care when Kate Steinle was separated from her parents, it was by a federal fugitive with a federal firearm.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at June 17, 2018 08:36 PM (Ndje9)
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can someone please tell me why on God's green earth would a 50+ yo woman think it's ok to wear short shorts, low cut top, over the counter hair extensions and pink glitter eye shadow?
A 50 year Heather Graham in short shorts and low cut top . Thumbs up.
Okay she's only 49 but still.
A 50 year Heather Graham in short shorts and low cut top . Thumbs up.
Okay she's only 49 but still.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:37 PM (2DOZq)
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Dinner at dad's. Corn, ribs and apple pie. Table cloth and china.
Posted by: Infidel at June 17, 2018 08:37 PM (LBSeG)
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oy. what a tart.
Posted by: Ozzy at June 17, 2018 08:38 PM (UdKB7)
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Posted by: Infidel at June 17, 2018 08:24 PM (LBSeG
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another victim of the Great American Mirror Shortage
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another victim of the Great American Mirror Shortage
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 08:39 PM (/e9Kb)
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XD compact 45 with 4in barrel. IWB carry, very comfortable, shoots great, safe, easy to take down and clean. Never had a failure to feed or mis-fire in a thousand or so range rounds. Solid choice.
Posted by: Uncle Si at June 17, 2018 08:39 PM (Je5yd)
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Central Control Station.
EOOW, and remote control of both engine rooms, and the Damage Control Console are all there,.
Correct place for the DCA to go to in that circumstance.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 17, 2018 08:32 PM (EyPfd)
Thank you, VIA.
In the interest of full disclosure, I know the Fitz DCA kinda, as well as I know any of you, just as a commenter on a forum. But I haven't seen anything in the Navy's report or anywhere else to indicate that she did anything but what she was supposed to, where she was supposed to be.
EOOW, and remote control of both engine rooms, and the Damage Control Console are all there,.
Correct place for the DCA to go to in that circumstance.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 17, 2018 08:32 PM (EyPfd)
Thank you, VIA.
In the interest of full disclosure, I know the Fitz DCA kinda, as well as I know any of you, just as a commenter on a forum. But I haven't seen anything in the Navy's report or anywhere else to indicate that she did anything but what she was supposed to, where she was supposed to be.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 08:40 PM (fZuhk)
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
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And to do this for one freighter would still be far cheaper than to build one LCS I bet.
* I am of course riffing off from a quick Harrier design put forward after Operation Corporate that never went anywhere. Though the merchant ship Atlantic Conveyor on its journey to that conflict did have a Sea Harrier FRS.1 on ready alert.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:16 PM (KB4SV)
If i didnt know better, i would swear you read some of my IRD analysis. Wont say whom for.
* I am of course riffing off from a quick Harrier design put forward after Operation Corporate that never went anywhere. Though the merchant ship Atlantic Conveyor on its journey to that conflict did have a Sea Harrier FRS.1 on ready alert.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:16 PM (KB4SV)
If i didnt know better, i would swear you read some of my IRD analysis. Wont say whom for.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (7p2eP)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (/e9Kb)
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Left Coast Dawg, lose the 'kraut and it sounds like a winner.
I am not a sauerkraut fan, not at all. The first time I saw this prepared, I almost turned my nose up at it.
The 'kraut works with the apple slices and any gaminess (sp?) is gone. You never taste it, rather the fruits balance off the breasts. The duck falls off your fork.
I didn't believe it either, until I tasted it. Made me a believer. One of my most popular game recipes. Actually, it was my mom's. If it is your mother's recipe, is it still stealing?
Left Coast Dawg, lose the 'kraut and it sounds like a winner.
I am not a sauerkraut fan, not at all. The first time I saw this prepared, I almost turned my nose up at it.
The 'kraut works with the apple slices and any gaminess (sp?) is gone. You never taste it, rather the fruits balance off the breasts. The duck falls off your fork.
I didn't believe it either, until I tasted it. Made me a believer. One of my most popular game recipes. Actually, it was my mom's. If it is your mother's recipe, is it still stealing?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (UsCnO)
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This is a gun thread but curious how many morons have body armor.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
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herself has been talking about getting some, mostly because they keep talking about banning it here in #Failifornia
This is a gun thread but curious how many morons have body armor.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
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herself has been talking about getting some, mostly because they keep talking about banning it here in #Failifornia
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 08:42 PM (/e9Kb)
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198 I figured it had something to do with insuring the children were not being trafficked.
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2018 08:42 PM (3nTd6)
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Springfield Armory betrayed us, never forget and never forgive. Buy anything else, drive them out of business, and let someone else get an import contract with the manufacturer of those excellent pistols.
Posted by: StarkChoice at June 17, 2018 08:42 PM (ghSyd)
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205 This is a gun thread but curious how many morons have body armor.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
If i can acquire them between 400m and 150m they're not getting close enough to me for me to need any.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
If i can acquire them between 400m and 150m they're not getting close enough to me for me to need any.
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at June 17, 2018 08:43 PM (7p2eP)
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LeftCoastDawg @ 174, tomorrow for lunch I'm taking a leftover 1/2 venison-1/2 wild hawg burger. Just added a slice of swiss, couple pieces of bacon, and mustard. It is as GOD intended.
Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2018 08:43 PM (zLDYs)
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Thanks for adding the key factoids about the situation, NGU. And Gipper Lives, the Steinle case (every aspect of it) is both sickening and scary, in what it might show about the degradation of the country.
An especially nice outrage about this idiotic moral panic is that one despicable aspect of Obama's, Mexico's, and other central American govts' policies was the hazard it meant for children. Kids fell off trains in Mexico. Kids disappeared into child trafficking rings.
Sometimes I still can't believe what happened the last few years, and how despicable and dangerous so many Americans are in their imbecilic moral narcissism.
An especially nice outrage about this idiotic moral panic is that one despicable aspect of Obama's, Mexico's, and other central American govts' policies was the hazard it meant for children. Kids fell off trains in Mexico. Kids disappeared into child trafficking rings.
Sometimes I still can't believe what happened the last few years, and how despicable and dangerous so many Americans are in their imbecilic moral narcissism.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:43 PM (QDnY+)
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A 50 year Heather Graham in short shorts and low cut top . Thumbs up.
Okay she's only 49 but still.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:37 PM (2DOZq)
Yeah, she has aged very well. As have most of the female Twins Peaks cast. Madchen Amick in particular.
Okay she's only 49 but still.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:37 PM (2DOZq)
Yeah, she has aged very well. As have most of the female Twins Peaks cast. Madchen Amick in particular.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at June 17, 2018 08:43 PM (9PcwK)
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This is a gun thread but curious how many morons have body armor.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
PASGT vest and Kevlar that suffered the submarine equivalent of a tragic canoe accident at the pier.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
PASGT vest and Kevlar that suffered the submarine equivalent of a tragic canoe accident at the pier.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 08:43 PM (fZuhk)
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gotta go pull a New Jersey roast out of the frig and fire up the charcoal.
BIAB, or on the ONT.
or both
BIAB, or on the ONT.
or both
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 08:43 PM (/e9Kb)
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"But I haven't seen anything in the Navy's report or anywhere else to indicate that she did anything but what she was supposed to, where she was supposed to be."
Yup.
Neither have I. As a matter of fact the two things that went exemplary were Sailors individual level of Basic Damage control, and the Damage Control organization.
It was the day to day shit that they sucked at.
Yup.
Neither have I. As a matter of fact the two things that went exemplary were Sailors individual level of Basic Damage control, and the Damage Control organization.
It was the day to day shit that they sucked at.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 17, 2018 08:44 PM (EyPfd)
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Indirect fires are another thing entirely. i want me soe body armor
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at June 17, 2018 08:44 PM (7p2eP)
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red, 'rons would think a 1 I
spose, blek.
spose, blek.
Posted by: Infidel at June 17, 2018 08:44 PM (LBSeG)
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All you would be writers with skimmer experience, please imagine the following.
Seahawk delivers to such a ship a new CO, she has a bit of a cloudy record but has always been on DDGs. Now is stuck with this lumbering freighter with an identity crisis as her chance at rehabilitation. And a crew that is has been slacking off feeling abandoned.
Meanwhile Beijing is starting to lose control as various problems it has been hiding start to pop up like bad economy and an out of balance population. And now Pyongyang has peacefully reintegrated with Seoul.
So as the CO tries to whip the crew back into a semblance of competence, some Generals of the PLAN make a nuclear play to rule the country.
How would things go from there?
Seahawk delivers to such a ship a new CO, she has a bit of a cloudy record but has always been on DDGs. Now is stuck with this lumbering freighter with an identity crisis as her chance at rehabilitation. And a crew that is has been slacking off feeling abandoned.
Meanwhile Beijing is starting to lose control as various problems it has been hiding start to pop up like bad economy and an out of balance population. And now Pyongyang has peacefully reintegrated with Seoul.
So as the CO tries to whip the crew back into a semblance of competence, some Generals of the PLAN make a nuclear play to rule the country.
How would things go from there?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:44 PM (KB4SV)
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Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
0/
Thinking about it, though. I'd rather have it and not need it. But I don't have it.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
0/
Thinking about it, though. I'd rather have it and not need it. But I don't have it.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 17, 2018 08:44 PM (5jVnA)
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Nope. No body armor.
Lost that in the canoe accident.
Lost that in the canoe accident.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2018 08:44 PM (0tfLf)
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Springfield Armory betrayed us, never forget and never forgive. Buy anything else, drive them out of business, and let someone else get an import contract with the manufacturer of those excellent pistols.
Posted by: StarkChoice at June 17, 2018 08:42 PM (ghSyd)
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How did they betray us, if I may ask? I love their XD line, and have heard nothing.
Posted by: StarkChoice at June 17, 2018 08:42 PM (ghSyd)
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How did they betray us, if I may ask? I love their XD line, and have heard nothing.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 08:45 PM (I16G8)
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I've got the Mark Ii Government target Ruger and end up on YouTube watching the reassembly sequence after every full-takedown cleaning.
I should just write it down. I's like barrel up when you insert the retainer thingy, then flip to lever it in.
Or maybe the reverse of that.
Maybe I'll just takedown and reassemble fifty or sixty times each day until it's a routine.
I should just write it down. I's like barrel up when you insert the retainer thingy, then flip to lever it in.
Or maybe the reverse of that.
Maybe I'll just takedown and reassemble fifty or sixty times each day until it's a routine.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 17, 2018 08:46 PM (NkB52)
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Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 08:42 PM (/e9Kb)
I got my plates and level III inserts years ago but I understand that they have a shelf life even if not worn. Looking to get another set. About the cost of a low end AR.
I got my plates and level III inserts years ago but I understand that they have a shelf life even if not worn. Looking to get another set. About the cost of a low end AR.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:47 PM (2DOZq)
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Calm Mentor, I'll let StarkChoice answer, but I think it has to do with IL gun laws. Springfield failed to oppose some recent stupid new law, or policy. Foggy on details.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:48 PM (QDnY+)
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Not read of anyone's IRD analysis.
Imagination plus open source reading about SCADS (shipborne containerized air-defense system).
Imagination plus open source reading about SCADS (shipborne containerized air-defense system).
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:48 PM (KB4SV)
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This is a gun thread but curious how many morons have body armor.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
I have a Level III-A vest, by a high end manufacturer, same as USCG issue. I'm scrounging around to see if I can find a set of plates for it at an affordable price.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
I have a Level III-A vest, by a high end manufacturer, same as USCG issue. I'm scrounging around to see if I can find a set of plates for it at an affordable price.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 17, 2018 08:49 PM (QzJWU)
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LeftCoastDawg @ 174, tomorrow for lunch I'm taking a leftover 1/2
venison-1/2 wild hawg burger. Just added a slice of swiss, couple pieces
of bacon, and mustard. It is as GOD intended.
Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2018 08:43 PM (zLDYs)
Bacon topping the hawg-venison burger.
Touche.
LeftCoastDawg @ 174, tomorrow for lunch I'm taking a leftover 1/2
venison-1/2 wild hawg burger. Just added a slice of swiss, couple pieces
of bacon, and mustard. It is as GOD intended.
Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2018 08:43 PM (zLDYs)
Bacon topping the hawg-venison burger.
Touche.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 08:49 PM (UsCnO)
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Les Kinetic, those pistols have always been famous for the disassembly/reassembly adventure, I think. Though some new versions had corrected some of that. But I don't have any Mk II/IIIs or 22/45s.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 08:49 PM (QDnY+)
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Lancelot @20-, what about department-issued vest?
Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2018 08:49 PM (zLDYs)
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Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
0/
Thinking about it, though. I'd rather have it and not need it. But I don't have it.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 17, 2018 08:44 PM (5jVnA)
Its not... for guns.... really...
Just a full on Kevlar Long sleeved coat, High neck.... for... sword fighting...
Yeah... that's it... that's the ticket...
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
0/
Thinking about it, though. I'd rather have it and not need it. But I don't have it.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 17, 2018 08:44 PM (5jVnA)
Its not... for guns.... really...
Just a full on Kevlar Long sleeved coat, High neck.... for... sword fighting...
Yeah... that's it... that's the ticket...
Posted by: Don Q at June 17, 2018 08:50 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Levi Tilleman at June 17, 2018 08:51 PM (2NqXo)
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Oh! And Kevlar jeans and riding boots. But I don't think they'd work for bullets.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 08:51 PM (fZuhk)
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Im in the market for another weapon. HA! Go figure. This time a home defense shotgun.
I like older shotguns for no particular reason but are there valid reasons to choose between say an Ithaca 37, Rem 870, Win Model 12 or a Mossberg 590 other than brand religious fervor?
I ve become overwhelmed with reading reviews and personal opinion posts on the popular shotgun forums. I'm so confused.
I like older shotguns for no particular reason but are there valid reasons to choose between say an Ithaca 37, Rem 870, Win Model 12 or a Mossberg 590 other than brand religious fervor?
I ve become overwhelmed with reading reviews and personal opinion posts on the popular shotgun forums. I'm so confused.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 08:52 PM (9rIkM)
Posted by: ibguy at June 17, 2018 08:53 PM (vUcdz)
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I ve become overwhelmed with reading reviews and personal opinion posts on the popular shotgun forums. I'm so confused.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 08:52 PM (9rIkM)
The 870 and 5x0 are nearly identical (I prefer the Mossberg safety location but eh). The others are slightly different. but I'm not familiar with them.
Comedy option: you can slamfire the Ithaca.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 08:52 PM (9rIkM)
The 870 and 5x0 are nearly identical (I prefer the Mossberg safety location but eh). The others are slightly different. but I'm not familiar with them.
Comedy option: you can slamfire the Ithaca.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 08:54 PM (fZuhk)
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To demonstrate how dangerous guns are, watch me shoot myself in the head.
Vote for me.
Posted by: Levi Tilleman at June 17, 2018 08:51 PM (2NqXo)
Reminds me of a cartoon meme out there with a woman and a man talking.
Woman: I turned in my gun to the government as my part to end gun violence.
Man: I cut off my dick as my part to end rape.
To demonstrate how dangerous guns are, watch me shoot myself in the head.
Vote for me.
Posted by: Levi Tilleman at June 17, 2018 08:51 PM (2NqXo)
Reminds me of a cartoon meme out there with a woman and a man talking.
Woman: I turned in my gun to the government as my part to end gun violence.
Man: I cut off my dick as my part to end rape.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 08:55 PM (UsCnO)
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Just reminded myself of the LA bank robbery shoot out on the street and that the robbers were supposedly wearing homemade body armor partially made with steel belted tire strips.
Anyone know if that was true? Also there are some interesting YouTube vids of making homemade BA. Ceramic tiles actually do work as workable ballistic plates.
Anyone know if that was true? Also there are some interesting YouTube vids of making homemade BA. Ceramic tiles actually do work as workable ballistic plates.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:55 PM (2DOZq)
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there should soon be M-1 Carbines at CMP, once the guns overseas make it to them, and they get gone over. there are several hundred thousand over in Korea, for one.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 08:35 PM (/e9Kb)
True, but I fear that CMP will price those carbines pretty high. Look at what they are wanting for M1911 pistols, something like $900+ and I can get a Colt Commander for that.
Speaking of the M1911, while cleaning out my parents' house, we found an Auto-Ordnance .45 Auto and a partial box of .45ACP FMJ cartridges in a random cardboard box. It was an interesting time capsule since the Old Man had his receipt for the pistol in the box ($330 from 1985) and the box had a price tag for $15.85. I didn't realize we were paying that much for pistol ammo at that time; no wonder I was saving a fortune reloading back then.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 08:35 PM (/e9Kb)
True, but I fear that CMP will price those carbines pretty high. Look at what they are wanting for M1911 pistols, something like $900+ and I can get a Colt Commander for that.
Speaking of the M1911, while cleaning out my parents' house, we found an Auto-Ordnance .45 Auto and a partial box of .45ACP FMJ cartridges in a random cardboard box. It was an interesting time capsule since the Old Man had his receipt for the pistol in the box ($330 from 1985) and the box had a price tag for $15.85. I didn't realize we were paying that much for pistol ammo at that time; no wonder I was saving a fortune reloading back then.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 08:55 PM (5Yee7)
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Just grateful you didn't add Kevlar assless chaps*.
Posted by: ibguy at June 17, 2018 08:53 PM (vUcdz)
But then there'd be nothing protecting my ass! I'm not finished using it yet, and it's out of warranty.
Posted by: ibguy at June 17, 2018 08:53 PM (vUcdz)
But then there'd be nothing protecting my ass! I'm not finished using it yet, and it's out of warranty.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 08:56 PM (fZuhk)
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If anyone mentions a Kevlar bikini, they are so dead...
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:57 PM (KB4SV)
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How did they betray us, if I may ask? I love their XD line, and have heard nothing.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 08:45 PM (I16G
Springfield Armory, along with Rock River Arms, created the "Illinois Firearms Manufacturing Association".
They proceeded to feed hundreds of thousands of dollars to this organization, which turned around and donated it to anti-gun politicians, selling out IL gun shops and gun owners as long as they agreed to carve out exceptions for manufacturers.
When caught, they claimed that they had no idea this was going on, acting like IFMA was some sort of third party they had no control over and not an operation of a lawyer directly working for them.
If you google Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms you'll find plenty of info about this.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 08:45 PM (I16G
Springfield Armory, along with Rock River Arms, created the "Illinois Firearms Manufacturing Association".
They proceeded to feed hundreds of thousands of dollars to this organization, which turned around and donated it to anti-gun politicians, selling out IL gun shops and gun owners as long as they agreed to carve out exceptions for manufacturers.
When caught, they claimed that they had no idea this was going on, acting like IFMA was some sort of third party they had no control over and not an operation of a lawyer directly working for them.
If you google Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms you'll find plenty of info about this.
Posted by: StarkChoice at June 17, 2018 08:57 PM (ghSyd)
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But then there'd be nothing protecting my ass! I'm not finished using it yet, and it's out of warranty.
Posted by: hogmartin
And, truth be told, there is a big-assed crack in it.
SWIDT?
Posted by: hogmartin
And, truth be told, there is a big-assed crack in it.
SWIDT?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 08:57 PM (9rIkM)
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Jim,
Do you have some pictures we can see of your custom holsters?
Do you have some pictures we can see of your custom holsters?
Posted by: lin-duh at June 17, 2018 08:58 PM (kufk0)
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I ve become overwhelmed with reading reviews and personal opinion posts on the popular shotgun forums. I'm so confused.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 08:52 PM (9rIkM)
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I would think it would worth the time and expense to go rent and shoot one of each of the models you are considering. I happenn to own and like the Mossy 590A1, but the forums are full of all sorts of fanbois/gyrls.
Trying them and seeing what you are most comfortable with sounds like a good first step.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 08:52 PM (9rIkM)
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I would think it would worth the time and expense to go rent and shoot one of each of the models you are considering. I happenn to own and like the Mossy 590A1, but the forums are full of all sorts of fanbois/gyrls.
Trying them and seeing what you are most comfortable with sounds like a good first step.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 08:59 PM (I16G8)
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And, truth be told, there is a big-assed crack in it.
SWIDT?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 08:57 PM (9rIkM)
*wide eyes*
How... how did you know that?
SWIDT?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 08:57 PM (9rIkM)
*wide eyes*
How... how did you know that?
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 09:00 PM (fZuhk)
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Jim,
Do you have some pictures we can see of your custom holsters?
Posted by: lin-duh at June 17, 2018 08:58 PM (kufk0)
Don't know why that sounds dirty to me. Probably because I'm a guy,
Do you have some pictures we can see of your custom holsters?
Posted by: lin-duh at June 17, 2018 08:58 PM (kufk0)
Don't know why that sounds dirty to me. Probably because I'm a guy,
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 09:00 PM (2DOZq)
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Anyone know if that was true? Also there are some interesting YouTube vids of making homemade BA. Ceramic tiles actually do work as workable ballistic plates.
As a guy that worked with ceramic tile for years, which included breaking tiles with a hammer from time to time, I'm a bit skeptical.
As a guy that worked with ceramic tile for years, which included breaking tiles with a hammer from time to time, I'm a bit skeptical.
Posted by: grey at June 17, 2018 09:00 PM (bZ7mE)
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Posted by: grey at June 17, 2018 09:00 PM (bZ7mE)
Even real ceramic ballistic plates can be broken pretty easily. What the ceramic does is absorb the energy .
Even real ceramic ballistic plates can be broken pretty easily. What the ceramic does is absorb the energy .
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 09:02 PM (2DOZq)
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Trying them and seeing what you are most comfortable with sounds like a good first step.
Posted by: Calm Mentor
Yeah, good idea. Thanks!
Trying them and seeing what you are most comfortable with sounds like a good first step.
Posted by: Calm Mentor
Yeah, good idea. Thanks!
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 09:03 PM (9rIkM)
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If you google Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms you'll find plenty of info about this.
Posted by: StarkChoice at June 17, 2018 08:57 PM (ghSyd)
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Thank you, I did not know this. I will research it, and if warranted, dispose of their products in the used market.
Posted by: StarkChoice at June 17, 2018 08:57 PM (ghSyd)
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Thank you, I did not know this. I will research it, and if warranted, dispose of their products in the used market.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 09:03 PM (I16G8)
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which included breaking tiles with a hammer "
Heh. But no. These ceramic plates have a mesh backing.
Heh. But no. These ceramic plates have a mesh backing.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 17, 2018 09:04 PM (7LY+6)
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236 Im in the market for another weapon. HA! Go figure. This time a home defense shotgun.
I like older shotguns for no particular reason but are there valid reasons to choose between say an Ithaca 37, Rem 870, Win Model 12 or a Mossberg 590 other than brand religious fervor?
I ve become overwhelmed with reading reviews and personal opinion posts on the popular shotgun forums. I'm so confused.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 08:52 PM (9rIkM)
It depends on how much you care about after-market accessories. The 870 and 590 are the tops. The Ithaca 37 has a smaller capacity but is a sweet shooter. I haven't fired the Winchester.
I like older shotguns for no particular reason but are there valid reasons to choose between say an Ithaca 37, Rem 870, Win Model 12 or a Mossberg 590 other than brand religious fervor?
I ve become overwhelmed with reading reviews and personal opinion posts on the popular shotgun forums. I'm so confused.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 08:52 PM (9rIkM)
It depends on how much you care about after-market accessories. The 870 and 590 are the tops. The Ithaca 37 has a smaller capacity but is a sweet shooter. I haven't fired the Winchester.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 09:04 PM (xJa6I)
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Lancelot, there was such a shootout (North Hollywood bank robbery shootout, haven't looked to see what's online about it). The perps did use home-made armor. I thought I recalled fairly medieval-looking stuff, but don't recall details. LAPD had to go "borrow" higher-power hardware from a local gun-store, I think. ("Any of those are perfect for home defense!")
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 09:04 PM (QDnY+)
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I fully expect anyone who sells off their Springfields to also sell off their Smith And Wessons and Colts, based on the past misdeeds of THOSE companies as well.
The XD series are fine handguns, period.
The XD series are fine handguns, period.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 09:05 PM (xJa6I)
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Calm Mentor is correct, Tonypete - rent/shoot anything you're thinking of buying.
I think any of those models you listed are fine for home defense. Personal preferences on how a model handles/shoots for *you* - all that counts.
If you think you'd ever want to try some trap shooting, which is fun, consider getting the Mossberg 500 combo model (comes with 18.5" and 28" barrels, takes 20 seconds to swap 'em). That way you get a good standard 12ga pump for home defense, and a gun for fun recreational trap shooting.
I think any of those models you listed are fine for home defense. Personal preferences on how a model handles/shoots for *you* - all that counts.
If you think you'd ever want to try some trap shooting, which is fun, consider getting the Mossberg 500 combo model (comes with 18.5" and 28" barrels, takes 20 seconds to swap 'em). That way you get a good standard 12ga pump for home defense, and a gun for fun recreational trap shooting.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 09:07 PM (QDnY+)
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TP: One of each. Just to be sure.
Posted by: CMU VET at June 17, 2018 09:08 PM (C+wjz)
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205 This is a gun thread but curious how many morons have body armor.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
Yawp
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
Yawp
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 09:08 PM (xJa6I)
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The XD series are fine handguns, period.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 09:05 PM (xJa6I)
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Agreed, which is why I own 7 of them. I will need to do some research before making some decisions. I am mostly interested in transgressions in the last 5 years, not decades old stuff.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 09:05 PM (xJa6I)
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Agreed, which is why I own 7 of them. I will need to do some research before making some decisions. I am mostly interested in transgressions in the last 5 years, not decades old stuff.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 09:09 PM (I16G8)
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About the M-1 carbines in South Korea (and the M-1 Garands) - I'm not sure, but think that these will not be CMP items. Owned by ROK, not part of a MAP program (from which CMP gets most of its guns to sell). So they'd come in to the US as commercial imports.
In the "RUMINT" category, they're heavily used and not in good shape - though I wonder if anyone really knows. Of course even beat-up M-1s of both varieties, in large quantities, would help with prices, especially for parts.
In the "RUMINT" category, they're heavily used and not in good shape - though I wonder if anyone really knows. Of course even beat-up M-1s of both varieties, in large quantities, would help with prices, especially for parts.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 09:09 PM (QDnY+)
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What CMU VET said, Tonypete.
Posted by: Eromero at June 17, 2018 09:10 PM (zLDYs)
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Ithacas eject from the bottom right?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 09:10 PM (2DOZq)
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My little old Winchester 62A pump .22 slam-fires, but slam isn't really the word for pump/firing a gallery gun. More lik poppity-pop.
I suppose its tubular mag is Illegal in NJ.
I suppose its tubular mag is Illegal in NJ.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at June 17, 2018 09:10 PM (NkB52)
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How is selling already purchased firearms going to hurt the company?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 09:10 PM (rnXGe)
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I fully expect anyone who sells off their Springfields to also sell off
their Smith And Wessons and Colts, based on the past misdeeds of THOSE
companies as well.
The XD series are fine handguns, period.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 09:05 PM (xJa6I)
Agreed, MAE. Please let me know when the bidding starts. I'm there with cash.
I fully expect anyone who sells off their Springfields to also sell off
their Smith And Wessons and Colts, based on the past misdeeds of THOSE
companies as well.
The XD series are fine handguns, period.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 09:05 PM (xJa6I)
Agreed, MAE. Please let me know when the bidding starts. I'm there with cash.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 17, 2018 09:10 PM (UsCnO)
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I am mostly interested in transgressions in the last 5 years, not decades old stuff.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 09:09 PM (I16G
Well then you probably won't be interested in my blanket amnesty for any and all Milsurp bearing Waffenamnt stamps, IJA/IJN chrysanthemums, and Warsaw Pact stamps. I will ensure that they are properly disposed of. Do you really want your estate finding that kind of stuff, people?
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 09:09 PM (I16G
Well then you probably won't be interested in my blanket amnesty for any and all Milsurp bearing Waffenamnt stamps, IJA/IJN chrysanthemums, and Warsaw Pact stamps. I will ensure that they are properly disposed of. Do you really want your estate finding that kind of stuff, people?
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 09:11 PM (fZuhk)
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Jim,
Do you have some pictures we can see of your custom holsters?
Posted by: lin-duh at June 17, 2018 08:58 PM (kufk0)
I only have the one that I'd brought to Ben Had's MOMEET last October.
Looks like I'll have to stitch up one or two before the next meet, just to show 'em off.
What I'd really like to find, is find an absolute screaming bargain on a walking-foot lock-stitch sewing machine, so I could turn these out a little more frequently. I've never undertaken to do the leather on a commercial basis, and hand-stitching is something I got good at, just 'cause I wanted to.
But it is a LOT of work to do.
I'll try to take a reasonable photo of that one holster I've got. Bear in mind though, it's nearly forty years old now.
Guess I did make it to last!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Do you have some pictures we can see of your custom holsters?
Posted by: lin-duh at June 17, 2018 08:58 PM (kufk0)
I only have the one that I'd brought to Ben Had's MOMEET last October.
Looks like I'll have to stitch up one or two before the next meet, just to show 'em off.
What I'd really like to find, is find an absolute screaming bargain on a walking-foot lock-stitch sewing machine, so I could turn these out a little more frequently. I've never undertaken to do the leather on a commercial basis, and hand-stitching is something I got good at, just 'cause I wanted to.
But it is a LOT of work to do.
I'll try to take a reasonable photo of that one holster I've got. Bear in mind though, it's nearly forty years old now.
Guess I did make it to last!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 17, 2018 09:11 PM (QzJWU)
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If you think you'd ever want to try some trap shooting, which is fun, consider getting the Mossberg 500 combo model
I'll look into the Moss 500 combo as you suggested - good idea. My son has a 590A1 in the safe so I have ready access to testing that one.
He wants my .45 1991A1 so there may be a bit of horse trading going on if he locates the right shotgun for the right price. He is quite a scrounger.
I'll look into the Moss 500 combo as you suggested - good idea. My son has a 590A1 in the safe so I have ready access to testing that one.
He wants my .45 1991A1 so there may be a bit of horse trading going on if he locates the right shotgun for the right price. He is quite a scrounger.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 17, 2018 09:14 PM (9rIkM)
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Lancelot, there was such a shootout (North Hollywood bank robbery shootout, haven't looked to see what's online about it). The perps did use home-made armor. I thought I recalled fairly medieval-looking stuff, but don't recall details. LAPD had to go "borrow" higher-power hardware from a local gun-store, I think. ("Any of those are perfect for home defense!")
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 09:04 PM (QDnY+)
My agency was one of the first in Montgomery County, OH, to adopt AR-15s after the North Hollywood Hills shoot-out. A while later, I got dispatched to assist two MCSO deputies serve a felony warrant. When I arrived, the deputies proceeded to tell me how dangerous this guy was; I told them, "Hold that thought" and opened my trunk to get my carbine (we had to keep them in the trunk at first) and racked a round in the chamber.
I told them, "OK, I'm ready" and their eyes GOT THIS BIG! Bad guy was home and was keeping his hands down low on a couch so we couldn't see what he was doing. I drew a bead on him and told him if he made a sudden move I would splatter him all over the wall behind him. He did not like looking down the barrel of an AR-15 and pretty much meekly went into custody after that. Ended up he was just being an asshole and didn't have any weapons concealed near where he was sitting.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 09:04 PM (QDnY+)
My agency was one of the first in Montgomery County, OH, to adopt AR-15s after the North Hollywood Hills shoot-out. A while later, I got dispatched to assist two MCSO deputies serve a felony warrant. When I arrived, the deputies proceeded to tell me how dangerous this guy was; I told them, "Hold that thought" and opened my trunk to get my carbine (we had to keep them in the trunk at first) and racked a round in the chamber.
I told them, "OK, I'm ready" and their eyes GOT THIS BIG! Bad guy was home and was keeping his hands down low on a couch so we couldn't see what he was doing. I drew a bead on him and told him if he made a sudden move I would splatter him all over the wall behind him. He did not like looking down the barrel of an AR-15 and pretty much meekly went into custody after that. Ended up he was just being an asshole and didn't have any weapons concealed near where he was sitting.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 17, 2018 09:14 PM (5Yee7)
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A client of mine gave me a Level III vest with ballistic plates of some kind. I've tried it on a few times but so far I haven't been able to convince anyone to volunteer for actual live fire testing.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 17, 2018 09:14 PM (lSrgA)
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...Ithacas eject from the bottom right?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 09:10 PM (2DOZq)
No.
They eject from the Bottom, Center.
/snrk
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 09:10 PM (2DOZq)
No.
They eject from the Bottom, Center.
/snrk
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 17, 2018 09:15 PM (QzJWU)
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205 This is a gun thread but curious how many morons have body armor.
Yes, but technically Her Majesty owns it.
Yes, but technically Her Majesty owns it.
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at June 17, 2018 09:15 PM (bgJ0E)
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One last recommendation for the Horde safe owners. The Dollar Tree store sells moisture absorbers that you can use in your safe. Of course only a dollar compared to the 7 or 8 dollars for the same thing made specifically for gun safes.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 09:16 PM (2DOZq)
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Wait! What kind of corgi is that? That tail is all wrong.
Posted by: Tuna at June 17, 2018 09:16 PM (jm1YL)
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Cicero, hmmm, another one of those real estate conveyance or family trust clients? Hmmm? Handing out body armor?
Didn't know you did cartel work.
Fromy
Didn't know you did cartel work.
Fromy
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 09:17 PM (QDnY+)
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"From your yacht"
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 09:18 PM (QDnY+)
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your HD pump shotgun should have dual rails, like the 870, or the newer Mossbergs, for reliability in feeding... harder to torque the mechanism under stress.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 09:18 PM (/e9Kb)
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Cicero, hmmm, another one of those real estate conveyance or family trust clients? Hmmm? Handing out body armor?
Didn't know you did cartel work.
Fromy
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Heh. I tried not to take it as a comment on the quality of my services.
Didn't know you did cartel work.
Fromy
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Heh. I tried not to take it as a comment on the quality of my services.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 17, 2018 09:18 PM (lSrgA)
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One last recommendation for the Horde safe owners. The Dollar Tree
store sells moisture absorbers that you can use in your safe. Of course
only a dollar compared to the 7 or 8 dollars for the same thing made
specifically for gun safes.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 09:16 PM (2DOZq)
Shoe departments and shoe stores will usually give you all the desecant packs you can carry if you ask.
One last recommendation for the Horde safe owners. The Dollar Tree
store sells moisture absorbers that you can use in your safe. Of course
only a dollar compared to the 7 or 8 dollars for the same thing made
specifically for gun safes.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 09:16 PM (2DOZq)
Shoe departments and shoe stores will usually give you all the desecant packs you can carry if you ask.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 09:19 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: Atlanta Bob at June 17, 2018 09:20 PM (dVzmr)
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How is selling already purchased firearms going to hurt the company?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 09:10 PM (rnXGe)
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Well, if I stop promoting them by shooting them at the range, stop reccomending them to those who ask at ranges or in online discussions like this very thread, then it would have a tiny impact. I understand that this is on future sales, not past.
If enough people like me get out there, then they will notice. Again, all I'm saying is that I have research to do. No hair on fire decisions coming any time soon.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 09:10 PM (rnXGe)
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Well, if I stop promoting them by shooting them at the range, stop reccomending them to those who ask at ranges or in online discussions like this very thread, then it would have a tiny impact. I understand that this is on future sales, not past.
If enough people like me get out there, then they will notice. Again, all I'm saying is that I have research to do. No hair on fire decisions coming any time soon.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 09:20 PM (I16G8)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 09:20 PM (rnXGe)
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the local gun store that armed LAPD that day?
yeah, the city, state and feds ganged up on them and put them out of business.
because they armed the cops, instead of doing paperw*rk.
of course, as i told a couple of cops one day, when we were discussing the event, one good ol' boy with a deer rifle would have dropped them with one round each.
if i was a LEO, i'd have a Garand or an M-1A in my trunk, not an AR. if i need more than a pistol or a shotgun, i want penetration.
yeah, the city, state and feds ganged up on them and put them out of business.
because they armed the cops, instead of doing paperw*rk.
of course, as i told a couple of cops one day, when we were discussing the event, one good ol' boy with a deer rifle would have dropped them with one round each.
if i was a LEO, i'd have a Garand or an M-1A in my trunk, not an AR. if i need more than a pistol or a shotgun, i want penetration.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 09:20 PM (/e9Kb)
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I'd *never* feel under-gunned with a Garand.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 09:22 PM (QDnY+)
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Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 09:19 PM (rnXGe)
Those are much too small to do the job. You would have to have a shoe box full of them. And in New Orleans they would last about an hour.
Those are much too small to do the job. You would have to have a shoe box full of them. And in New Orleans they would last about an hour.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 09:22 PM (2DOZq)
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can the desiccant be dried out and re-used? if so, that might be a deal.
otherwise, you can buy desiccant containers that you can plug in to dry out, so you don't have to have wires going into the safe.
otherwise, you can buy desiccant containers that you can plug in to dry out, so you don't have to have wires going into the safe.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 09:23 PM (/e9Kb)
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Hundreds of turkeys choked to death in south Israel on Sunday evening due to smoke inhalation caused by incendiary kites and balloons flown over from Gaza
Posted by: Nevergiveup
D9s
Posted by: Nevergiveup
D9s
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2018 09:24 PM (p/8Bt)
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I'd *never* feel under-gunned with a Garand.
Pfft. Try using G*d's Own Rifle. The L1A1, blessed are the peacemakers.
Pfft. Try using G*d's Own Rifle. The L1A1, blessed are the peacemakers.
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at June 17, 2018 09:24 PM (bgJ0E)
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Tips on ceramic plates:
- Tape padding around the edges to reduce risk of cracking when set down. Pool noodles work great and also make them more comfortable.
- If you drop them, are in an MVA or whatever they can be xrayed to look for stress cracks. Local docs and vets are often friendly about this (pick one thats a shooter, and why would you see anyone else anyway?), or if you are something official most any hospital will do it for you.
- Almost all need Kevlar behind them to capture the spall. Don't skip this. I have stories...
Tips on ceramic plates:
- Tape padding around the edges to reduce risk of cracking when set down. Pool noodles work great and also make them more comfortable.
- If you drop them, are in an MVA or whatever they can be xrayed to look for stress cracks. Local docs and vets are often friendly about this (pick one thats a shooter, and why would you see anyone else anyway?), or if you are something official most any hospital will do it for you.
- Almost all need Kevlar behind them to capture the spall. Don't skip this. I have stories...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at June 17, 2018 09:25 PM (qul7b)
Posted by: Clyde at June 17, 2018 09:25 PM (UdKB7)
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One last recommendation for the Horde safe owners. The Dollar Tree store sells moisture absorbers that you can use in your safe. Of course only a dollar compared to the 7 or 8 dollars for the same thing made specifically for gun safes.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 09:16 PM (2DOZq)
I forget the name that it was sold under. But at work we had some desiccant that was pink when absorbing and turned blue when full. And could be recharged to pink in an oven at about 200 degrees F. I commandeered some for my safe and am happy with how it performs.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 09:16 PM (2DOZq)
I forget the name that it was sold under. But at work we had some desiccant that was pink when absorbing and turned blue when full. And could be recharged to pink in an oven at about 200 degrees F. I commandeered some for my safe and am happy with how it performs.
Posted by: X-ray at June 17, 2018 09:25 PM (9PW1S)
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can the desiccant be dried out and re-used? if so, that might be a deal.
otherwise,
you can buy desiccant containers that you can plug in to dry out, so
you don't have to have wires going into the safe.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 09:23 PM (/e9Kb)
I don't think they can be reused. I'm also in a unique position to get big HP Procurve network switches about once a week and those boxes include huge 6"x4" dessicant packs
can the desiccant be dried out and re-used? if so, that might be a deal.
otherwise,
you can buy desiccant containers that you can plug in to dry out, so
you don't have to have wires going into the safe.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 09:23 PM (/e9Kb)
I don't think they can be reused. I'm also in a unique position to get big HP Procurve network switches about once a week and those boxes include huge 6"x4" dessicant packs
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 09:25 PM (rnXGe)
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off to check the charcoal and grab another canoe sex beer or two.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 09:25 PM (/e9Kb)
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Those are much too small to do the job. You would
have to have a shoe box full of them. And in New Orleans they would last
about an hour.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 09:22 PM (2DOZq)
They're great for sealed ammo cans.
have to have a shoe box full of them. And in New Orleans they would last
about an hour.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 17, 2018 09:22 PM (2DOZq)
They're great for sealed ammo cans.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 17, 2018 09:26 PM (rnXGe)
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'if i was a LEO, i'd have a Garand or an M-1A in my trunk, not an AR. '
BAR
Posted by: Clyde at June 17, 2018 09:25 PM (UdKB7)
Whip it good.
BAR
Posted by: Clyde at June 17, 2018 09:25 PM (UdKB7)
Whip it good.
Posted by: Atlanta Bob at June 17, 2018 09:26 PM (dVzmr)
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Well then you probably won't be interested in my blanket amnesty for any and all Milsurp bearing Waffenamnt stamps, IJA/IJN chrysanthemums, and Warsaw Pact stamps. I will ensure that they are properly disposed of. Do you really want your estate finding that kind of stuff, people?
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 09:11 PM (fZuhk)
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Given the conversation and context of what I was stating, your comment makes no sense whatsoever, except to give you a chance to textually show off your collection.
You're welcome for that totally misguided and misdirected opportunity that you took with my post.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 09:11 PM (fZuhk)
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Given the conversation and context of what I was stating, your comment makes no sense whatsoever, except to give you a chance to textually show off your collection.
You're welcome for that totally misguided and misdirected opportunity that you took with my post.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 09:28 PM (I16G8)
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As a collector of bullseye target pistols the one brand that is not represented in my collection is Ruger. It all dates back to the late '80's or early 90's when Ruger refused to offer health insurance to any employee who rode motorcycles. As a motorcycle dealer at the time I found this very offensive, so no Rugers in my collection that includes SW, Colt, High Standard and just for kicks Mossberg 22 target rifles.
Posted by: JimK at June 17, 2018 09:29 PM (uAlm4)
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Highly recommend the "rechargeable" dessicant containers (aluminum exterior, media within goes dark blue when cooked in an oven as described by X-ray above). Come in various sizes, and, obviously, will last a long time with "recharging".
I live in a very dry climate, still use some dessicant packs in long-term storage ammo cans. Those in humid climates of course have to be more serious about this issue.
I live in a very dry climate, still use some dessicant packs in long-term storage ammo cans. Those in humid climates of course have to be more serious about this issue.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 09:30 PM (QDnY+)
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Ohio Ordnance makes a semi-auto BAR.
Posted by: CMU VET at June 17, 2018 09:30 PM (C+wjz)
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at June 17, 2018 09:31 PM (bgJ0E)
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Given the conversation and context of what I was stating, your comment makes no sense whatsoever, except to give you a chance to textually show off your collection.
You're welcome for that totally misguided and misdirected opportunity that you took with my post.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 09:28 PM (I16G
It accomplished exactly what it was intended to, which was to post dumb things on the internet. I can assure you it wasn't intended to be accusatory or judgmental.
And I don't own any milsurp at the moment, to my eternal shame.
You're welcome for that totally misguided and misdirected opportunity that you took with my post.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 09:28 PM (I16G
It accomplished exactly what it was intended to, which was to post dumb things on the internet. I can assure you it wasn't intended to be accusatory or judgmental.
And I don't own any milsurp at the moment, to my eternal shame.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 09:31 PM (fZuhk)
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L1A1 looks nice, Frank, would be happy to have that too. The "boom" is important. Gotta have a deep, loud report that conveys power and authority.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 09:32 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 09:33 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: is that like jumbo shrimp? at June 17, 2018 09:34 PM (K9A1Z)
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'if i was a LEO, i'd have a Garand or an M-1A in my trunk, not an AR. '
BAR
There's an M-60 in my trunk, be careful when you open it.
BAR
There's an M-60 in my trunk, be careful when you open it.
Posted by: Walter White Heisenberg at June 17, 2018 09:34 PM (rnAwa)
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Yes I love the boom. Shame that I am pinning my fortune in coming to Utah and Texas to make things that go from boom to little bang.
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at June 17, 2018 09:35 PM (bgJ0E)
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I own one .308 rifle right now. A Century Arms G3. It's not bad. But I do wish I'd bought the FAL.
I'm saving up (ha ha) for a M1A. I'd love a SCAR 17 but...let's be serious. You can buy a Labradoodle for the price of one of those.
P.S. Labradoodles are expensive.
I'm saving up (ha ha) for a M1A. I'd love a SCAR 17 but...let's be serious. You can buy a Labradoodle for the price of one of those.
P.S. Labradoodles are expensive.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 09:36 PM (xJa6I)
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I thought the desicant was pink when new but in searching rechargeable desicants blue seems more the standard. Anyway here is a link explaining how they work.
Posted by: X-ray at June 17, 2018 09:36 PM (9PW1S)
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NZFrank, are you, well, in NZ?
A few years ago, some Kiwi posted about his astonishing CZ collection (complete, including all the machine guns) on a gun forum (The High Road).
He seemed to own the entire catalog, the entire modern history of CZ.
Someone you know?
A few years ago, some Kiwi posted about his astonishing CZ collection (complete, including all the machine guns) on a gun forum (The High Road).
He seemed to own the entire catalog, the entire modern history of CZ.
Someone you know?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 17, 2018 09:38 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: X-ray at June 17, 2018 09:38 PM (9PW1S)
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You're welcome for that totally misguided and misdirected opportunity that you took with my post.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 09:28 PM (I16G
Though I guess it might as well serve as an actual topically-relevant segue. On a milsurp thread on another forum, someone posted that he had two SKS that he wanted to get rid of, but he wasn't sure how. One of them had the symbol of some notorious death squad from a Balkan conflict burned into the stock, and he was really sketchy about selling it because he didn't want anything to do with the kind of person who might have bought it for that. On the other hand, it wasn't really his to destroy. I don't remember what he finally did with it.
The symbol decorating the stock of the other one turned out to be a really crudely-drawn cooch. Really.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 09:28 PM (I16G
Though I guess it might as well serve as an actual topically-relevant segue. On a milsurp thread on another forum, someone posted that he had two SKS that he wanted to get rid of, but he wasn't sure how. One of them had the symbol of some notorious death squad from a Balkan conflict burned into the stock, and he was really sketchy about selling it because he didn't want anything to do with the kind of person who might have bought it for that. On the other hand, it wasn't really his to destroy. I don't remember what he finally did with it.
The symbol decorating the stock of the other one turned out to be a really crudely-drawn cooch. Really.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 09:38 PM (fZuhk)
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243 If anyone mentions a Kevlar bikini, they are so dead...
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:57 PM (KB4SV)
Level IIIA over the shoulder boulder holsters.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:57 PM (KB4SV)
Level IIIA over the shoulder boulder holsters.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 17, 2018 09:39 PM (5jVnA)
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243 If anyone mentions a Kevlar bikini, they are so dead...
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:57 PM (KB4SV)
SS-x69, Armor Piercing Dildo. It's a Penetrator.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
*runs serpentine!*
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:57 PM (KB4SV)
SS-x69, Armor Piercing Dildo. It's a Penetrator.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
*runs serpentine!*
Posted by: Jim at June 17, 2018 09:42 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 09:42 PM (EEuOO)
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SS-x69, Armor Piercing Dildo. It's a Penetrator.
Posted by: Jim at June 17, 2018 09:42 PM (QzJWU)
*sigh*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA2S4mhfdQQ
(yes, this is NSFW)
Posted by: Jim at June 17, 2018 09:42 PM (QzJWU)
*sigh*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA2S4mhfdQQ
(yes, this is NSFW)
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 09:43 PM (fZuhk)
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If anyone mentions a Kevlar bikini, they are so dead...
Posted by: Anna Puma
What if it matched the color of your eyes ?
Posted by: Anna Puma
What if it matched the color of your eyes ?
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 09:44 PM (EEuOO)
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309 I own one .308 rifle right now. A Century Arms G3. It's not bad. But I do wish I'd bought the FAL.
FAL are metric heretics ( altho original design), the SLR is an inch pattern improvement or G*d's Own Rifle, henceforth know as THAT Rifle . There are no substitutes.
( Except for maybe a Rock River LAR)
FAL are metric heretics ( altho original design), the SLR is an inch pattern improvement or G*d's Own Rifle, henceforth know as THAT Rifle . There are no substitutes.
( Except for maybe a Rock River LAR)
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at June 17, 2018 09:45 PM (bgJ0E)
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For those who might have missed it:
Msg from Mrs Vic if not already posted:
Surgery was successful and she is feeling much better.
Praise be.
Msg from Mrs Vic if not already posted:
Surgery was successful and she is feeling much better.
Praise be.
Posted by: blaster at June 17, 2018 09:45 PM (jHrzU)
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Ah, good news! I'm glad Vic has that off his chest!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 09:45 PM (xJa6I)
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For those who might have missed it:
Msg from Mrs Vic if not already posted:
Surgery was successful and she is feeling much better.
Praise be.
Posted by: blaster
Amen !
Msg from Mrs Vic if not already posted:
Surgery was successful and she is feeling much better.
Praise be.
Posted by: blaster
Amen !
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 09:45 PM (EEuOO)
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*runs serpentine!*
Posted by: Jim at June 17, 2018 09:42 PM (QzJWU)
---
open sheaf WP and HE-VT
you're just gonna die tired
Posted by: Jim at June 17, 2018 09:42 PM (QzJWU)
---
open sheaf WP and HE-VT
you're just gonna die tired
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 09:47 PM (/e9Kb)
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Speaking of G3s, has anyone got one of those Century CETMEs that were floating around 20 or so years ago? The QA was supposed to be either flawless or trainwreck from rifle to rifle. But for a 7.62x51 battle rifle with a box magazine, they were almost AK-cheap.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 17, 2018 09:47 PM (fZuhk)
Posted by: Jim at June 17, 2018 09:47 PM (QzJWU)
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ONT be up
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2018 09:48 PM (EEuOO)
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Doesn't a Kevlar bikini leave many organs exposed that are necessary for the enjoyment of what the K bikini protects?
Posted by: X-ray at June 17, 2018 09:48 PM (9PW1S)
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/porkpie hat off
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 17, 2018 09:49 PM (rnAwa)
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If anyone mentions a Kevlar bikini, they are so dead...
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:57 PM
Chain mail bikini are apparently a thing at Cons.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 17, 2018 08:57 PM
Chain mail bikini are apparently a thing at Cons.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 17, 2018 09:50 PM (DMUuz)
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the down side to FAL/L1A1 is that, as with the AR-15/M-16, you can't butt stroke someone with it w/o making it a single shot rifle.
i did, however, talk herself into buying an Aussie HBAR version a few years back, by telling her it was suitable for use at CMP matches...
not that either one of is is going to be able to hold it up for the standing part of the match.
fun to shoot off the bipod though.
i did, however, talk herself into buying an Aussie HBAR version a few years back, by telling her it was suitable for use at CMP matches...
not that either one of is is going to be able to hold it up for the standing part of the match.
fun to shoot off the bipod though.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 09:51 PM (/e9Kb)
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Ah well, Nood
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 17, 2018 09:51 PM (xJa6I)
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So for fathers day I asked dad if they were doing a potluck at his gun club after their sporting clays match. They weren't this year, just everybody bring their own lunch same as any match but he asked if I'd like to drive out and shoot so I said sure. Pleasant drive, I have a quick lunch and we go over to the rifle range. Get set up and when I go to put a bullet in the chamber the bolt won't go in all the way. Dad "oh heck, I grabbed the wrong bolt last night - I store the 223 and the 6mm in the case and just have the bolts in the safe." Oops.
We did shoot a bit at the CRP area near home later. I think I had the stock a bit high and/or inside where it was against my collar bone, so I got a bit sore after just a few shots which was new for me with this little rifle. But at least after the first 2 shots low and right and then low and left I had a not horrible group for the next 4. My eyes are so bad I was not seeing where the shots were going though until I fetched the target after we finished.
We did shoot a bit at the CRP area near home later. I think I had the stock a bit high and/or inside where it was against my collar bone, so I got a bit sore after just a few shots which was new for me with this little rifle. But at least after the first 2 shots low and right and then low and left I had a not horrible group for the next 4. My eyes are so bad I was not seeing where the shots were going though until I fetched the target after we finished.
Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at June 17, 2018 09:54 PM (r4KP2)
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Well, if I stop promoting them by shooting them at the range, stop reccomending them to those who ask at ranges or in online discussions like this very thread, then it would have a tiny impact. I understand that this is on future sales, not past.
If enough people like me get out there, then they will notice. Again, all I'm saying is that I have research to do. No hair on fire decisions coming any time soon.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 09:20 PM (I16G
On the other hand, if you sell them, nobody's going to ask you about them anymore. I feel like keeping them gives you more opportunities to express your views on the company. Also, they're good guns - no reason to deprive yourself of a useful too just because the manufacturer did something that you didn't know about.
If enough people like me get out there, then they will notice. Again, all I'm saying is that I have research to do. No hair on fire decisions coming any time soon.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 17, 2018 09:20 PM (I16G
On the other hand, if you sell them, nobody's going to ask you about them anymore. I feel like keeping them gives you more opportunities to express your views on the company. Also, they're good guns - no reason to deprive yourself of a useful too just because the manufacturer did something that you didn't know about.
Posted by: StarkChoice at June 17, 2018 09:57 PM (ghSyd)
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i did, however, talk herself into buying an Aussie HBAR version a few years back, by telling her it was suitable for use at CMP matches...
not that either one of is is going to be able to hold it up for the standing part of the match.
fun to shoot off the bipod though.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 09:51 PM (/e9Kb)
Red, I have one including the transit case , spares and chest of 30rd mags. Lets just say I have not shot it a lot. They ( L2A1) are terrible things.
not that either one of is is going to be able to hold it up for the standing part of the match.
fun to shoot off the bipod though.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 17, 2018 09:51 PM (/e9Kb)
Red, I have one including the transit case , spares and chest of 30rd mags. Lets just say I have not shot it a lot. They ( L2A1) are terrible things.
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at June 17, 2018 10:07 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 17, 2018 10:27 PM (pw+jk)
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Bought the XDs Mod 2 45 ACP (new) two weeks ago at the semi-local gun show (2 hr drive). Really wanted the Sig P220 SAS, which they stopped making this year, but the Mod 2 was my next choice and walked away with it as less than half the price. Since it's for concealed carry/self-defense, I'm more than pleased. As mentioned above with the 40 cal, the 45 is a bit snappy, but can put a pretty tight spread on target inside 20 yds. Extended magazine is a must for proper grip feel/control.
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