The Morning Rant: J.V. Edition

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Part of me is quite pleased that President Trump has has tossed the North Korea paradigm on its head. The Kim playbook didn't work very well this time, and that is a testament to a hard-nosed negotiation style, courtesy of the President's business experience. But let us not forget that in one fell swoop, President Trump has given Kim Jong Un a huge public relations boost, and a possible life line to pull him out of the Chinese sphere of influence and provide him with more autonomy. And that concerns me, because let us not forget that the fat little psychopath rules possibly the most repressive country on earth...one that has killed untold numbers of its own citizens, starved many more, and kept the bounty of freedom from all but a few of the privileged. Modern medicine, power grids, communication, food production, construction, consumer products, labor-saving technology...none of that exists for the subjects and slaves in Kim Jong Un's world.

The proof is in the pudding, and I am not dunking just yet. We need robust inspection. We need concrete evidence of North Korea's actions, and not just a few photos of a smiling dictator with the leader of the free world. As some old guy who used to muck around in these pages just said:

I still think this is cause Kim's mountain of nuke test shit blew up and I don't trust him except to chase a donut hole if I tossed one in front of him
-- Dave In Texas

That being said, it is an undeniable victory. President Trump has forced North Korea to the negotiating table without most of the previous, customary bribes. That is in stark contrast to our negotiating technique of the last administration.

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1 Corgis called.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 12, 2018 10:53 AM (72PAC)

2 CNN makes sure to immediately fact check Trump's statement about war games being inappropriate and that they'll stop.

WELL THEY HAVEN'T screeches CNN! We called the Pentagon and THEY HAVEN'T STOPPED SO THERE!

Like Trump can't stop it with a five second phone call. What a bunch of fucking loser clowns who keep losing.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 12, 2018 10:54 AM (4ErVI)

3 Well, this is up early. CBD must need to make a liquor store run.

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 10:54 AM (oMtOd)

4 Punk Chimp resembles Dennis Rodman on a good day.

*denounces self*

Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 10:54 AM (r9UYA)

5 Battle Unicorn!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 12, 2018 10:55 AM (hLRSq)

6 Tenn pregnancy drop off?


next you're gonna tell me that older gay couples have fewer children?

Posted by: Barky (Make my ass a missile silo) McFcukstik at June 12, 2018 10:55 AM (EyPfd)

7 5
Yes, Battle Unicorn is an excellent name, and much easier to spell.

Posted by: jim at June 12, 2018 10:55 AM (gjGvH)

8 6
Tenn pregnancy drop off?





next you're gonna tell me that older gay couples have fewer children?

Posted by: Barky (Make my ass a missile silo) McFcukstik at June 12, 2018 10:55 AM (EyPfd)

I assume you're not counting bisexuals and lesbians.

Posted by: jim at June 12, 2018 10:56 AM (gjGvH)

9 The mockery of Dennis Rodman by CBD must stop.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 10:56 AM (CmqYE)

10 So what you are saying is North Korea is a lot like Castro's Cuba but without the tropical climate?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 12, 2018 10:56 AM (roQNm)

11 Are you still a teen at 20?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 10:57 AM (r9UYA)

12 Sessions immigration decision is solid.

Maybe his status should be upgraded to simple sack-time artist.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 12, 2018 10:57 AM (iys0/)

13 it is an undeniable victory"

Yep.

That is all.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 12, 2018 10:57 AM (7LY+6)

14 Momma always said when I was born I looked like a fey potato!

Posted by: Brian Stelter at June 12, 2018 10:58 AM (BrQrN)

15 Battle unicorn.

Too cute. LOL.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 10:58 AM (5RITs)

16 Oh look.

The talking donut hole has returned.

Posted by: Barky (Make my ass a missile silo) McFcukstik at June 12, 2018 10:59 AM (EyPfd)

17 I like the burrito skins. Reminded me of what my MIL, Got rest her soul, who knew no english and some spanish, called tortillas: translated, taco skins.

Posted by: jim at June 12, 2018 10:59 AM (gjGvH)

18

Battle Unicorn!

Meh, it's no Tarkus. Here's a mind-blowing live version by the Keith Emerson band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psgQsFK7BdA

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 12, 2018 10:59 AM (HaL55)

19 Maybe his status should be upgraded to simple sack-time artist.

Yes! Just one more z to go!

Posted by: Jeff Sessionzz at June 12, 2018 10:59 AM (BrQrN)

20 The teen pregnancy graph - LOL.

Saw on the news today that the CDC is now telling us American workers are consuming empty calorie snacks at work. That is not breaking news, nor is it a *disease*, but someone got a big grant for that, I assume.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 10:59 AM (W+vEI)

21 Jim Acosta is a dumbfuck.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 12, 2018 10:59 AM (+BKF+)

22 If anyone wants to see faces of abject misery and have some lol's, check out The View right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 10:59 AM (ptqGC)

23 THINGS THAT WERE WILLOW'D:

I'm sure there's been tons of debate on this, but I've got to say...

...Lil Kim doesn't strike me as someone who has the stomach for wide-scale genocide and the slow agonizing death of thousands, as his father and grandfather did.

Yes yes, I know. There are still hard labor camps. He's had political enemies killed. Violently. Warbier came back comatose. I don't dismiss these at all.

I do wonder how much of that was directly him vs. how much of it were the upper echelons of his own "old guard," leftovers from his dad's administration who are used to the old ways of doing things, and likely *do* have a taste for these sorts of monstrous activities.

Lil Kim grew up around this shit, and to some degree, it has been forced upon his as "normal." I think that he's either still young enough, or saw enough of the outside world, that he hasn't let the small spark of decency that normal, non-psychopath humans are born with have get snuffed out yet.

I pray that I'm right on this, and that there is still a spark of decency in him, enough that he's actively interested in turning the page and leading his country out of death-camps and hard labor and daily doses of fear.

It can't be done in a week, though. Read stories of NorK defectors, and how hard it is for them to comprehend the outside world once they escape. Read stories of old Soviet defectors in the 80's that escaped and how hard it was for them to comprehend something as simple as STOCKED GROCERY STORE SHEVLES. They thought it was a joke, it was such a foreign notion. You can't do this to an entire country that has been brainwashed on a multi-generational level. It's going to take time, or your going to break people's minds and wind up with messes and zealots and people actually wanting to go back to the old way.

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THINGS THAT WERE WILLOW'D II:

Jane D'oh had silver stolen as a young D'ohlet. It was sad, and her story breaks my heart. I hate when stuff is stolen. I am enraged when sentimental stuff is stolen. Thieves are fuckers.

Posted by: reason at June 12, 2018 10:59 AM (q/kmn)

24 GOD rest her soul.

Posted by: jim at June 12, 2018 10:59 AM (gjGvH)

25 I assume you're not counting bisexuals and lesbians.
Posted by: jim
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Remarkably, the lesbian couple that live behind us have a pair of young black children, boys. Mother Nature, is there anything she can't do?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (K2jyi)

26 If this Korea thing had happened 4 years ago, CNN would have a panel outraged at Christian's being upset over the suggestion December 25th should be renamed Barak Obama's Birthday.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (TN1P5)

27 My son named thunder storms Boomerrains

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (ymnmz)

28 I'm not to worried about what KJU does after the summit. He has to return to his wreck of a country.
PDT will continue winning.
And we have an increasingly overlooked South Korea to back stop what happens down the road. Don't over look these guys. They are guarantors. Not China.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (0tfLf)

29 Definitely a bad day for NeverTrumps. Patterico is taking major pipe for his mean girl substance free snark. Fat Fuck Erickson not heard from because nobody cares.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (y7DUB)

30 Here's the May 2017 Asian Boss video that I mentioned earlier about N. Korean's thoughts on America. They speak about their impression of Trump. Much insight to be had here: https://tinyurl.com/yc8jv3mw
Their thoughts on Trump begin around the 20:00 minute mark but the whole thing is worth watching.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (UBzPO)

31 Just took a tour of GOPe Seante twitter accounts. Nary a mention of Korea.

Weird, huh?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (LISuA)

32 We were supposed to have sun.

Starting to cloud up

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 12, 2018 11:01 AM (EyPfd)

33 Tenn pregnancy drop off?



They moved to Kentucky?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 11:01 AM (5RITs)

34 Still not tired of the winning. MAGA.

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay Them All at June 12, 2018 11:01 AM (NmR1a)

35 Jane D'oh had silver stolen as a young D'ohlet. It was sad, and her story breaks my heart. I hate when stuff is stolen. I am enraged when sentimental stuff is stolen. Thieves are fuckers.
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To be pawned/fenced for a dime on the dollar, and probably melted.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 11:01 AM (K2jyi)

36 Obviously, what we need to do is make more lantern-jawed 50 year olds identify as 7 year old girls.

That'll be how we show Kim Jong Un that he didn't win!

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 11:01 AM (WDCYi)

37 I saw an article somewhere on the internet that claimed North Korea had hacked South Korea's Army systems and got a look at their war plans. At that point, North Korea realized that the South Korean and US armies could actually do things that North Korea assumed was only propaganda.
This supposedly scared the crap out of Whoa Fat and he decided he better start being more civilized.

I only saw this one article so maybe this was all wishful thinking.

Posted by: JB1000 at June 12, 2018 11:01 AM (16OL0)

38 I don't see how Kim can ever denuclearize. Without the threat of nukes, he isn't going to be able to keep the world from interfering in his creepy, isolated, dictatorship. If the outside world gets in, he'll end up like Gaddafi.

Posted by: Trudeau's escaping eyebrow at June 12, 2018 11:01 AM (3LWam)

39 The Trump's charm offensive does seem to be working on the Kim.

It is fair to point out that this is still the Kim who poisoned his brother to death in the face last year.

I was going to make a Lil Kim joke and include a photo. Actually, I still am going to do that, but looking for the photo was shocking.

Lil Kim has Michael Jackson syndrome. Her nose is getting smaller and her pallor is lightening.

The way I remember her is SSFW: https://bit.ly/2LIWjLf

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:02 AM (fuK7c)

40 11
I just released a Very Big Video of myself with Very Talented and Funny
Supreme Leader Kim!! Great leader, his people love him!! Looking forward
to BIG THINGS TOGETHER!

Posted by: Orange Grampy Cuck at June 12, 2018 10:57 AM (QtfGX)

A tube of Preparation H costs about 5 bucks. Might help with your sore spot.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 12, 2018 11:02 AM (ymnmz)

41 Jane, thanks to reason I went back and saw your post about your stolen silver. That's awful. How nice of your grandma though to have been so thoughtful! And how nice that you have your mom's silver and other family pieces.

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 11:02 AM (oMtOd)

42 32 Just took a tour of GOPe Seante twitter accounts. Nary a mention of Korea.

Weird, huh?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (LISuA)

to the extent they're saying anything, it's either "I helped too!" or "Let me tell you why this is a bad thing."

Useless as tits on a dead bull.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 11:02 AM (AURKQ)

43 Well, I've got all my late mother's silver, and some lovely silver from other long-gone family members. I just hope I have a DiL who wants it some day.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:03 AM (ptqGC)

44 Remarkably, the lesbian couple that live behind us
have a pair of young black children, boys. Mother Nature, is there
anything she can't do?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (K2jyi)

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Are the lesbians black? If not, the story is too incredible to believe.

Posted by: Undocumented at June 12, 2018 11:03 AM (5NMZN)

45 Aren't regular unicorns 'battle unicorns'? I mean, they're CR 3.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:03 AM (oZ6kz)

46 I am enraged when sentimental stuff is stolen. Thieves are fuckers.
Posted by: reason
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“There is only one sin. and that is theft... when you tell a lie, you steal someones right to the truth.”
― Khaled Hosseini, The Kite Runner

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 11:04 AM (K2jyi)

47 24 ...Lil Kim doesn't strike me as someone who has the stomach for
wide-scale genocide and the slow agonizing death of thousands, as his
father and grandfather did.

Posted by: reason at June 12, 2018 10:59 AM (q/kmn)

I think Trump has used an overall strategy involving tariffs on China as indirect pressure (China is the Norks only ally and is responsible for almost all their trade), and direct pressure on N. Korea. Trump's willingness to drop a deal if it is not to his liking (like Reagan did at Reykjavik), unlike some of the recent previous Pussies-In-Chief, is also a key factor.

Posted by: jim at June 12, 2018 11:04 AM (gjGvH)

48 38 If the outside world gets in, he'll end up like Gaddafi.

Posted by: Trudeau's escaping eyebrow at June 12, 2018 11:01 AM (3LWam)

Raped quite literally to death by Muslims?

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 11:04 AM (WDCYi)

49 37 I saw an article somewhere on the internet that claimed North Korea had hacked South Korea's Army systems and got a look at their war plans. At that point, North Korea realized that the South Korean and US armies could actually do things that North Korea assumed was only propaganda.
This supposedly scared the crap out of Whoa Fat and he decided he better start being more civilized.

I only saw this one article so maybe this was all wishful thinking.

Posted by: JB1000 at June 12, 2018 11:01 AM



Or was he allowed to hack only the things we wanted him to hack?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 12, 2018 11:04 AM (0tfLf)

50 Earl Campbell sez "Skoal, brothers!"

Posted by: Burger Chef at June 12, 2018 11:04 AM (RuIsu)

51 Jane, thanks to reason I went back and saw your post
about your stolen silver. That's awful. How nice of your grandma
though to have been so thoughtful! And how nice that you have your
mom's silver and other family pieces.



Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 11:02 AM (oMtOd)


Thanks. There was a time young women wanted to collect silver they could use and then hand down. Now, not so much. I know older ladies who are selling theirs because their daughters and granddaughters don't want it. I guess polishing it is too much trouble.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:04 AM (ptqGC)

52 28 I'm not to worried about what KJU does after the summit. He has to return to his wreck of a country.
PDT will continue winning.
And we have an increasingly overlooked South Korea to back stop what happens down the road. Don't over look these guys. They are guarantors. Not China.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (0tfLf)

The Sorks (heh) military guys look like tough sumbitches in any pictures or videos I've seen of them. We've probably been training them for sixty years or so.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 12, 2018 11:05 AM (4ErVI)

53 Are the lesbians black? If not, the story is too incredible to believe.
Posted by: Undocumented
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Nope. Cuacasian...ladies.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 11:05 AM (kBWZu)

54 Still, one has to wonder exactly why the trolls bother with this place. We're so fragile emotionally and uncertain in our opinions.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:05 AM (Boy/L)

55 Raped quite literally to death by Muslims?

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 11:04 AM (WDCYi)


Exactly. You nailed it.

Posted by: Trudeau's escaping eyebrow at June 12, 2018 11:05 AM (3LWam)

56 Who knew that fat cops cannot run very well?

I did.

Posted by: JAS at June 12, 2018 11:06 AM (3HNOQ)

57 Spock, "Only Nixon could go to China."

Apparently only Trump could go to Pyongyang.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 11:06 AM (+l4K5)

58 Why is that black guy not in the NFL?

Dude has moves.

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 11:06 AM (Z+ROM)

59 25
I assume you're not counting bisexuals and lesbians.

Posted by: jim

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Remarkably, the lesbian couple that live behind us have a pair of
young black children, boys. Mother Nature, is there anything she can't
do?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (K2jyi)

We're not talking Jurassic Park here. I know a couple that used artificial insemination. One Spouse (I'll call the husband) is asian, the other (I'll call the wife) is white. The wife was inseminated from an asian man so the baby would sorta look like it was the product of the two of them.

Posted by: jim at June 12, 2018 11:06 AM (gjGvH)

60 "Sort of congratulations to everyone."
I love that.

Posted by: m at June 12, 2018 11:06 AM (/TzhX)

61 The Sorks (heh) military guys look like tough sumbitches in any pictures or videos I've seen of them.

Do not mess with ROK Marines. Ask the North Vietnamese.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (Boy/L)

62
Nope. Cuacasian...ladies.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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One lipstick, one butch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (kBWZu)

63 Hercules or Cyrus the Great, which one describes Trump best?

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (2LelM)

64 I give it ten years before there's a Starbucks on every corner of Pyongyang.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (oZ6kz)

65 I know older ladies who are selling theirs because their daughters and granddaughters don't want it. I guess polishing it is too much trouble.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:04 AM (ptqGC)
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Gosh, that's too bad. I'm very sentimental about stuff like that. Even if it's something I wouldn't pick myself, I like the old stuff because it meant something to someone in my family and therefore it does now to me.

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (oMtOd)

66 If the outside world gets in, he'll end up like Gaddafi.
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That is the exception that proves the rule, courtesy of Hillary and the gang.

Castro hung on; Castro's ghost still rules Cuba.
Venezuela hangs on
Zimbabwe hangs on, and the outside world does nothing.

Stretch the rule and one could claim that Eastern European socialism rules Europe, and the EU zone totters on, zombie like. BREXIT still hasn't happened. Merkel, of Eastern German extraction rules. Islamist immigrants continue their invasion of Europe, and the 'outside world' accepts them, embraces them, celebrates their inclusion.

Kim could rule North Korea for the rest of his life if he works it right.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (roQNm)

67 Next step is to get NK to recognize at least the bare minimum of human rights and close down their gulags. One account I read of maintained that if a citizen was found guilty of a major offense, all his relatives for 3 generations were imprisoned. That's medieval level psychotic punishment. Same account (I'll think of the book title as soon as I post this, I'm sure) detailed the starvation in the prisons with an anecdote. After being repeatedly raped, two women were pregnant and made a deal that they would eat the babies when they were born, but after eating the first baby, the second mother reneged and tried to hide her baby. I believe the first mother went insane with guilt/grief. Those stories have to end. And if we do get to the post-gulag era in NK, maybe re-unification can become a reality within the next, what, decade or two?

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (l14X/)

68 Just took a tour of GOPe Seante twitter accounts. Nary a mention of Korea.

Weird, huh?


Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (LISuA)


*KSSSH-BISSSSSSSSHHHHHKKKKKK*

Posted by: reason's blown mind at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (q/kmn)

69
Do not mess with ROK Marines. Ask the North Vietnamese.
Posted by: Circa
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They tended to be less polite than American troops.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 11:08 AM (kBWZu)

70 Still, one has to wonder exactly why the trolls bother with this place. We're so fragile emotionally and uncertain in our opinions.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:05 AM (Boy/L)


They're all like that bratty fat kid in the sidebar last week; worthless pests like ticks and lice.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 12, 2018 11:08 AM (y7DUB)

71 Willowed:

466 239 take a Midol and quit whining


That was a funny Bill Cosby routine back when the world was so innocent that I didn't know why girls got cramps and the world didn't know he was a rapist.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018

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Yes -- he tells us the story of his horrible toothache and how he couldn't see a dentist until the next week, and none of the over-the-counter pain meds work. The druggist whispers to him, "Try a Midol." He does -- and the pain goes away. "And I tried to make the pain come! And it wouldn't!"

He rushes down to another drugstore, and cries, "Gimme some Midol, and it's for ME!"

The druggist shrugs. "That's okay, we get a lot of weird guys in here --"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 12, 2018 11:08 AM (G+x7t)

72 Apparently only Trump could go to Pyongyang.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 11:06 AM (+l4K5)
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He can buy that damned hotel (the Ryugyong) !

Posted by: RioBravo at June 12, 2018 11:08 AM (5NMZN)

73 >>That being said, it is an undeniable victory. President Trump has forced North Korea to the negotiating table without most of the previous, customary bribes. That is in stark contrast to our negotiating technique of the last administration.



Heck, he made Kim do stuff in order to earn his invitation to the negotiating table: release US hostages, stop nuke testing.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 11:08 AM (W+vEI)

74 Has anyone asked Deniro about the importance of timing in theatrical endeavors? I'm asking for a friend named Donny.

Posted by: Gumby at June 12, 2018 11:08 AM (2LelM)

75 62 Do not mess with ROK Marines. Ask the North Vietnamese.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (Boy/L)

Why Taekwondo?

So they can still rip a hole in your chest with their feet while holding a gun.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 11:08 AM (WDCYi)

76 I guess polishing it is too much trouble.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:04 AM
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Yep. That's why God made FoodSaver vac machines.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (HiDrR)

77 39
Lil Kim has Michael Jackson syndrome. Her nose is getting smaller and her pallor is lightening.


Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:02 AM (fuK7c)

Naw, he face keeps getting bigger, making his nose look smaller. Too much booze, cookies, and cake.

Posted by: jim at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (gjGvH)

78 My insane, lib sister (who just informed me two days ago: "I'm done with you. Enjoy your life" because I was tired of her sending me Anthony Bourdain's rants about PDT), borrowed my parents' wedding pictures to make copies, back when she lived in Miami.

Long story short, she had a security system and a dog, but thieves broke in and stole the lovely carved box the photos were in, and bye-bye wedding photos. Also stole our late paternal grandmother's wedding ring.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (ptqGC)

79 "Why is that black guy not in the NFL?

Dude has moves.

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2018 11:06 AM (Z+ROM) "

Not enough felonies on his record?

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (oZ6kz)

80 Next step is to get NK to recognize at least the bare minimum of human rights and close down their gulags. One account I read of maintained that if a citizen was found guilty of a major offense, all his relatives for 3 generations were imprisoned. That's medieval level psychotic punishment


Whoa! Slow down. Let's not rush to judgement.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (9uM86)

81 64 Hercules or Cyrus the Great, which one describes Trump best?

Posted by: Godfather Gumby at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (2LelM)

He is simply Genghis Don.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (WDCYi)

82 I am enraged when sentimental stuff is stolen. Thieves are fuckers.


I am going to whine. May I whine? I shall whine anyway.

Seven or eight years ago I didn't lock my truck because there were no valuables in it. Somebody broke in anyway and not finding valuables, stole my CD collection.

There can not be an aftermarket for my music collection. There's nobody who will pay top dollar for oh, some Beethoven, a lot of Rolling Stones, some Iggy Pop, Robert Johnson, and some Steeleye Span.

It's the most annoying thievery experience of my life.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (fuK7c)

83 If you haven't watch some YouTube videos that AsianBoss has done, he interviews some North Korean defectors on life in the South and reuniting the two countries and the obstacles involved. He does some man on the street interviews and it seems that it's the South that really doesn't want to unify because of the cost.

If the Two Koreas unify they will no longer need to ship their products to Europe they can just transport them via train to Europe.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 12, 2018 11:10 AM (dKiJG)

84 That video is all kinds of awesome!

Posted by: Tami at June 12, 2018 11:10 AM (Enq6K)

85 Gosh, that's too bad. I'm very sentimental about stuff like that. Even if it's something I wouldn't pick myself, I like the old stuff because it meant something to someone in my family and therefore it does now to me.
Posted by: bluebell
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It's as though you are trying to conserve proven values.

How terribly last century.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 11:10 AM (kBWZu)

86 *waves to Broseidon*

Ready for Otakon?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 11:10 AM (+l4K5)

87 Venezuela and Cuba hang on, for now, but I think North Korea is much worse than those. I'm pretty sure that Venezuela won't last through the end of the year.

Posted by: Trudeau's escaping eyebrow at June 12, 2018 11:11 AM (3LWam)

88
I know a couple that used artificial insemination. One Spouse (I'll call the husband) is asian, the other (I'll call the wife) is white. The wife was inseminated from an asian man so the baby would sorta look like it was the product of the two of them.
Posted by: jim


Secret Asian man

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 12, 2018 11:11 AM (IqV8l)

89 Oh no Jane, you're breaking my heart here.

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 11:11 AM (oMtOd)

90 It's as though you are trying to conserve proven values.

How terribly last century.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 11:10 AM (kBWZu)
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Heh. Miss Manners is my spirit animal.

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 11:11 AM (oMtOd)

91 I give it ten years before there's a Starbucks on every corner of Pyongyang.


Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (oZ6kz)


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Given their decades of drinking tea made from treebark and dirt, maybe Starbucks will finally have a market that appreciates their particular flavor of "burnt water."

Posted by: reason at June 12, 2018 11:11 AM (q/kmn)

92 Next step is to get NK to recognize at least the bare minimum of human rights and close down their gulags. One account I read of maintained that if a citizen was found guilty of a major offense, all his relatives for 3 generations were imprisoned. That's medieval level psychotic punishment


Whoa! Slow down. Let's not rush to judgement.


/points in the general direction of Hyannis Port and Chappaqua

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:12 AM (Boy/L)

93 "*waves to Broseidon*

Ready for Otakon?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 11:10 AM (+l4K5) "

I heard it's gone to shit since the move to DC. I get more than enough of the DelMarVa area by going to MAGFest and the occasional Katsucon. (And maybe I'd attend a CPAC if it wasn't filled with chodes)

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:12 AM (oZ6kz)

94 Long story short, she had a security system and a dog, but thieves broke in and stole the lovely carved box the photos were in, and bye-bye wedding photos. Also stole our late paternal grandmother's wedding ring.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (ptqGC)
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Perhaps you should send her back Bourdain's most recent reflections on the good people of West Virginia. He said he learned more or less that he was a bigot against these people, who largely voted for Trump.

Posted by: Jim Phelps at June 12, 2018 11:12 AM (vDqXW)

95 Yep. That's why God made FoodSaver vac machines.
Posted by: IrishEi


Life hack:
Fill quart vac bags with 1lb ground beef.
Use rolling pin.
Roll flat about 1/2" thick.
Vac pack.
Stacks easier. Thaws faster.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 11:12 AM (9uM86)

96 First Chik-Fil-A in Pyongyang will make a mint.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 11:12 AM (+l4K5)

97 >>It's the most annoying thievery experience of my life.


Ugh, yes.

It's not worse than the theft of sentimental stuff, but I had my weekly dairy delivery stolen once, and all I could think was: "How is it you have to steal milk and cheese from my doorstep instead of just going to a freakin' food bank or use SNAP to get it for free?"

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 11:13 AM (W+vEI)

98 Hey, I'm in the general direction of Hyannisport! Actually, it's about 25 minutes away.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 12, 2018 11:13 AM (l14X/)

99 67
Next step is to get NK to recognize at least the bare minimum of human
rights and close down their gulags. One account I read of maintained
that if a citizen was found guilty of a major offense, all his relatives
for 3 generations were imprisoned. That's medieval level psychotic
punishment. Same account (I'll think of the book title as soon as I post
this, I'm sure) detailed the starvation in the prisons with an
anecdote. After being repeatedly raped, two women were pregnant and made
a deal that they would eat the babies when they were born, but after
eating the first baby, the second mother reneged and tried to hide her
baby. I believe the first mother went insane with guilt/grief. Those
stories have to end. And if we do get to the post-gulag era in NK, maybe
re-unification can become a reality within the next, what, decade or
two?

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (l14X/)

It's important to note that much of what we think we know about N.K. is from or own government's propaganda. Much has changed there since the famine in the 90's-00's. More and more western culture has gotten in through smuggled media, etc. It's very much like what brought China to Nixon in the 70's. Those people aren't going through another famine - most of them realize now that they've been lied to all these years.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 11:13 AM (UBzPO)

100 Gosh, that's too bad. I'm very sentimental about
stuff like that. Even if it's something I wouldn't pick myself, I like
the old stuff because it meant something to someone in my family and
therefore it does now to me.



Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (oMtOd)


Same here! I have a very, very old hall tree with a bench that holds all the family Bibles. I look in the old mirror on it and wonder about the generations of my late dad's family who looked in that same mirror.

I love the precious old things I've been left.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:13 AM (ptqGC)

101 How can householders not want silver? I would LOVE to have a silver flatwear set but I can never find anything that seems even remotely affordable, which is weird if the demand is really so low. I mean, I realize I will have to pay hundreds of dollars, but not willing to pay thousands.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at June 12, 2018 11:14 AM (aW5/6)

102 Voted early this morning at my South Reno polling place. Lots of men who smelled like Republican gentlemen casting their votes. I think Republican enthusiasm has been downplayed. Hoping we can unseat GOPe Heller with Heck. MAGA!

Posted by: Deplorable Chick at June 12, 2018 11:14 AM (J9wxX)

103

I don't think of Bill Cosby as a rapist.
He was just having a little fun in his own weird way.

Posted by: Soothi at June 12, 2018 11:14 AM (uuUYB)

104 Lil Kim has Michael Jackson syndrome. Her nose is getting smaller and her pallor is lightening.


Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:02 AM (fuK7c)

Naw, he face keeps getting bigger, making his nose look smaller. Too much booze, cookies, and cake.



No, I mean the actual Lil Kim, the girl who sings or raps or something.

She got famous by showing a boobie.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:14 AM (fuK7c)

105 >>Long story short, she had a security system and a dog, but thieves broke in and stole the lovely carved box the photos were in, and bye-bye wedding photos. Also stole our late paternal grandmother's wedding ring.


So sad!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 11:14 AM (W+vEI)

106 It's the most annoying thievery experience of my life.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (fuK7c)
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Totally understand that. Somebody took a good portion of my Spock's Beard collection. (I'm thinking almost everybody who just read that is saying "Who?").

Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2018 11:14 AM (vDqXW)

107 Secret Asian man
Posted by: Bertram Cabot
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I'm telling Muldoon.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 11:15 AM (wszSn)

108 Ok, not quite OT, but wondered if the appeal of "silver" was as a store of value more than that of food service.

After all, "silver" isn't a terribly good material for said service - can't handle changes in temps well, is tough to clean, and certainly can't stand up to abrasion...

Hmmm.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 12, 2018 11:15 AM (7LY+6)

109 Life hack:
Fill quart vac bags with 1lb ground beef.
Use rolling pin.
Roll flat about 1/2" thick.
Vac pack.
Stacks easier. Thaws faster.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 11:12 AM
~~~~~

Yep, works great. And buy the no-name bags/rolls on Amazon for a fraction of the cost.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2018 11:15 AM (HiDrR)

110 "How can householders not want silver? I would LOVE to have a silver flatwear set but I can never find anything that seems even remotely affordable, which is weird if the demand is really so low. I mean, I realize I will have to pay hundreds of dollars, but not willing to pay thousands.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at June 12, 2018 11:14 AM (aW5/6) "

Well, not everyone has formal occasions that call for silver. Plus it tarnishes so easily, so there's a decent bit of upkeep involved.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:15 AM (oZ6kz)

111 54 Still, one has to wonder exactly why the trolls bother with this place. We're so fragile emotionally and uncertain in our opinions.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:05 AM (Boy/L)

heh
Nice hash.

Posted by: m at June 12, 2018 11:15 AM (/TzhX)

112 Next step is to get Alextopia to recognize at least the bare minimum of human rights and close down their gulags. One account I read of maintained that if a citizen was found guilty of a major offense, all his relatives for 3 generations were imprisoned. That's medieval level psychotic punishment

FIFY

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 11:15 AM (Bdeb0)

113 Hope the NK thing turns out net positive, but we won't know for 10-20 years. I'm skeptical. Advise against end-zone dances on this one.

Posted by: gp at June 12, 2018 11:15 AM (mk9aG)

114 Never been to Otakon but they are supposed to have the Japanese voice actor for Basara from Macross 7 there. That will either make one want to attend or run away.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 11:16 AM (+l4K5)

115 82 There's nobody who will pay top dollar for oh, some
Beethoven, a lot of Rolling Stones, some Iggy Pop, Robert Johnson, and
some Steeleye Span.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (fuK7c)

Hey, some of that sounds pretty good. I listen to an eclectic collection myself, from opera and classical to rockroll, heavy metal, and contemporary. Sorta like Rule #34, except it's more like if there music someone likes, there's someone out there willing to buy(or steal) it. Yoko may be an exception (or perhaps okay for those with a masochistic streak).

Posted by: jim at June 12, 2018 11:16 AM (gjGvH)

116 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 11:13 AM (UBzPO)

Uh, Brian...might want to dial that back a notch. Kim and his ilk are still evil shits.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:16 AM (Boy/L)

117 Seven or eight years ago I didn't lock my truck because there were no valuables in it. Somebody broke in anyway and not finding valuables, stole my CD collection.

There can not be an aftermarket for my music collection. There's nobody who will pay top dollar for oh, some Beethoven, a lot of Rolling Stones, some Iggy Pop, Robert Johnson, and some Steeleye Span.

It's the most annoying thievery experience of my life.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (fuK7c)

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A coworker of mine has a similar story - his truck was broken into, and his hardcover case of CASSETTES were stolen. Top it off, most of the tapes were homebrew, comprised of obscure bands that I've never even heard of. Stinky Puppy? The hell?

He was mostly mad that someone messed up his lock to get in.

Three days later, he goes outside to leave for work. Sitting next to his mailbox is his hardcover case of tapes - RETURNED.

Yes. His music taste is SO BAD, the thieves brought it back.

I think that actually only put salt in the wound.

Posted by: reason at June 12, 2018 11:16 AM (q/kmn)

118 oh my, Meggie Mac (The View) getting a bit weepy about Krauthammer.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 12, 2018 11:16 AM (KxbBq)

119 93 heard it's gone to shit since the move to DC. I get more than enough of the DelMarVa area by going to MAGFest and the occasional Katsucon. (And maybe I'd attend a CPAC if it wasn't filled with chodes)

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:12 AM (oZ6kz)

It was shit as far back as 2003.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 11:16 AM (WDCYi)

120 Hiya, pals! Starting the day slowly.

Big wind and lightning storm moved in before dawn. Reports of gusts up to 65-70mph. Lotsa tree debris in the yard. A small bit of house damage. Couple of brief brown-outs. Had a trailer full of brush I'd cut last week not yet hauled to the burn pile - half the brush is back on the ground again. Impressive!

My thinking is, this storm was the local repercussion of the titanic Trump-Kim meeting.

Now I have to catch up on JJ, Art, and the Chump. I mean Chimp. And maybe a few comments. Should I start at the latest and read backward? Or would that be like diabolical backmasking?

Posted by: mindful webworker - prairie barracuda at June 12, 2018 11:16 AM (67teE)

121 Nixon made overtures to Red China, whose human rights record sucks even worse than North Korea's. And the American Left was in love with the Soviet Union and its satellites for years.

I agree that human rights should be a consideration, but I don't need to be lectured on it by politicals who've ignored them when it was for their own convenience.

https://en.wikipedia.org
wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#
People's_Republic_of_China

Posted by: MW at June 12, 2018 11:16 AM (wNx6K)

122 Well, I've got all my late mother's silver, and some
lovely silver from other long-gone family members. I just hope I have a
DiL who wants it some day. Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:03 AM (ptqGC)
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With divorce being so prevalent, Mom was collecting for granddaughters. They could see it being used at major dinners and actually appreciated getting it when she died. Don't think my sisters are giving family silver to DiLs -- only granddaughters.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 12, 2018 11:17 AM (MIKMs)

123 I agree that human rights should be a consideration, but I don't need to be lectured on it by politicals who've ignored them when it was for their own convenience.


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Fair. Besides the left's version of human rights differs from mine.

Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 11:17 AM (sX1BW)

124 Ok, not quite OT, but wondered if the appeal of "silver" was as a store of value more than that of food service.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 12, 2018 11:15 AM
~~~~~

That might have been the case years ago, but not so now. It is worth much more as a set of utensils than it is per ounce. But sadly, as noted earlier, there isn't much interest in silver sets anymore. Same goes for china and crystal.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2018 11:17 AM (HiDrR)

125 Brunnhilde, check CraigsList near you, frequently. You never know when a good deal might pop up. Also, if you don't care if it has someone else's initial (I wouldn't care), you might get an even better deal on some older stuff.

You could probably get some deals on less-than-complete sets. Who would care if you have three place settings from one pattern, two from another, etc.? It's all lovely stuff.

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 11:17 AM (oMtOd)

126 She got famous by showing a boobie.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:14 AM (fuK7c)

To be fair it was a nice boobie.

Posted by: random lurker commenter at June 12, 2018 11:17 AM (oLa9K)

127 96
First Chik-Fil-A in Pyongyang will make a mint.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 11:12 AM (+l4K5)

The first place that serves real FOOD will make a mint.

Posted by: jim at June 12, 2018 11:18 AM (gjGvH)

128 Life hack:
Fill quart vac bags with 1lb ground beef.
Use rolling pin.
Roll flat about 1/2" thick.
Vac pack.
Stacks easier. Thaws faster.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 11:12 AM
~~~~~

Yep, works great. And buy the no-name bags/rolls on Amazon for a fraction of the cost.
Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2018 11:15 AM (HiDrR)


Damn right. I'm going to need more freezer space for all the fresh meat from those dying from net neutrality.

...
...
...

What?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:18 AM (Boy/L)

129 Long story short, she had a security system and a dog, but thieves broke
in and stole the lovely carved box the photos were in, and bye-bye
wedding photos. Also stole our late paternal grandmother's wedding ring.


======================
That's Miami in a single story.
When we lived there, friends were robbed while they slept. The thieves broke in, moved all the living room furniture to get a Persian rug and then put it all back in exactly the same spot. It took awhile in the morning for our friends to figure out what was different in the room.


The thieves also took all their silver that night, even thought they had little Spanish language signs next to it saying "Please do not take- silver plate, not sterling" and even took their microwave for some unknown reason.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at June 12, 2018 11:18 AM (LISuA)

130 "It was shit as far back as 2003.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 11:16 AM (WDCYi) "

I only went once. 2012 I think. Was a nice experience just for the sheer enormity, but not something I'd have wanted to return to.

I do like the Inner Harbor area, though. Actually, most of Baltimore - Fell's Point has some great dive joints.

Fuck the Ravens, though.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:18 AM (oZ6kz)

131 Well, not everyone has formal occasions that call
for silver. Plus it tarnishes so easily, so there's a decent bit of
upkeep involved.


Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:15 AM (oZ6kz)


My husband's aunt gave me her "everyday" silver years ago, with the promise it would be our "everyday" silver. Sigh.

She's dying, and once the old girl is gone, I'm going to polish it for the millionth time and put it away to use if needed for dinners. I cannot tell you what a pain it's been over the years, but I appreciated her thoughtfulness.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:18 AM (ptqGC)

132 Gotta go now, bbl. Have a great day, Morons!

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2018 11:19 AM (HiDrR)

133 Hercules or Cyrus the Great, which one describes Trump best?
----
Israel's Temple foundation has released a half-shekel coin of Trump alongside Cyrus the Great.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 11:19 AM (AzW6q)

134 Howdy all. I'm cooking walleye for lunch. Care for some?

Posted by: Muad'dib at June 12, 2018 11:19 AM (cYYLx)

135 Whoa shit. Margins blown. .02 pt font!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 11:19 AM (9uM86)

136 How can householders not want silver?

--

Stainless steel. Twice as shiny with none of the hassle.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 12, 2018 11:19 AM (roQNm)

137 Long story short, she had a security system and a dog, but thieves broke in and stole the lovely carved box the photos were in, and bye-bye wedding photos. Also stole our late paternal grandmother's wedding ring.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (ptqGC)


Should have told her not to complain; the thieves were only helping her contribute her fair share of wedding photos. After all, she really didn't need all of them. Bernie says so.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 12, 2018 11:19 AM (kqsXK)

138 In honor of NORK Summit, AOSHQ is going wide.

Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 11:20 AM (sX1BW)

139 Stainless steel. Twice as shiny with none of the hassle.

Indeed. Stands up to abrasion, easier to clean, and higher tensile strength.

*shrugs*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 12, 2018 11:20 AM (7LY+6)

140 In honor of NORK Summit, AOSHQ is going wide.

JET SWEEP!!!!

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:20 AM (Boy/L)

141 Howdy all. I'm cooking walleye for lunch. Care for some?
Posted by: Muad'dib at June 12, 2018 11:19 AM (cYYLx)
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Yes, please! You're having luck, I see!

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (oMtOd)

142 funny

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/
1006499183719780352

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (hMwEB)

143 Yes. His music taste is SO BAD, the thieves brought it back.

I think that actually only put salt in the wound.




OK, that there is hilarious.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (fuK7c)

144 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 11:13 AM (UBzPO)

I usually have no problem reconciling these two things in my mind:

A) Most of what we know about the DPRK's weirdness (awfulness) is US propaganda
B) Most of it is true

keyword being "Most". Broad brush outlines. Some things may be exaggerations, but it sure as hell isn't Shangri-la either.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (AURKQ)

145 136
How can householders not want silver?



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Stainless steel. Twice as shiny with none of the hassle.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 12, 2018 11:19 AM (roQNm)

One word-
Chore.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (ymnmz)

146 Katsucon hasn't been the same since one of the founders finally stopped cosplaying as Shampoo. At over six feet, he was fooling no one.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (+l4K5)

147 You could probably get some deals on
less-than-complete sets. Who would care if you have three place
settings from one pattern, two from another, etc.? It's all lovely
stuff.





Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 11:17 AM (oMtOd)


Actually, using old, mis-matched silver and china for place settings is apparently a "thing."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (ptqGC)

148 @11 "Are you still a teen at 20?"

I hope you jest...I have not had enough coffee to acertain if this is Snark- There's no embedded snark-alert contained.

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay Them All at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (xGZ+b)

149 Ok, not quite OT, but wondered if the appeal of "silver" was as a store of value more than that of food service.

After all, "silver" isn't a terribly good material for said service - can't handle changes in temps well, is tough to clean, and certainly can't stand up to abrasion...

Hmmm.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 12, 2018 11:15 AM (7LY+6)


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I think:
a) Looks pretty. SHIIIIINNEEYYY!
b) Gained popularity in a time when things that were meticulous to maintain conveyed a sense of wealth all on their own. You must "have people" to do other tasks, thus freeing you up personally to maintain your silver, OR a step further, you "have people" to maintain it for you. Fat-cat. Which yields to developments in items that look like silver, but aren't, such as mercury glass.
c) Scratches and dents, but doesn't break or shatter. Scratches and dents can conceivably be repaired.

Just guesses.

Posted by: reason at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (q/kmn)

150 I only went once. 2012 I think. Was a nice experience just for the sheer enormity, but not something I'd have wanted to return to.

I do like the Inner Harbor area, though. Actually, most of Baltimore - Fell's Point has some great dive joints.

Fuck the Ravens, though.


Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:18 AM (oZ6kz)

The bigger something gets, the worse it gets.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (WDCYi)

151 Howdy all. I'm cooking walleye for lunch. Care for some?
Posted by: Muad'dib at June 12, 2018 11:19 AM (cYYLx)

This isn't about me, is it?

Posted by: Shep! at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (AURKQ)

152
That being said, it is an undeniable victory. President Trump has forced North Korea to the negotiating table without most of the previous, customary bribes.



Not so fast.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (10vO4)

153 >>When we lived there, friends were robbed while they slept. The thieves broke in, moved all the living room furniture to get a Persian rug and then put it all back in exactly the same spot. It took awhile in the morning for our friends to figure out what was different in the room.



wow

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 11:22 AM (W+vEI)

154 I watch the morning news for traffic/weather before work.

When Trump "pulled out" of the summit, it was breathless, wall-to-wall coverage.

This morning... Not. One. Word.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 11:22 AM (AzW6q)

155 I know a lot about airplanes. Very expensive. I didn't like it.

Posted by: Old Man With Onion on His Belt at June 12, 2018 11:22 AM (VvjLK)

156 Come on J.V. Give this thing a shot. I don't care if little Whoa Fat can now think he's an international player. Whatever happens it's going to take a long time. Consider the difficulty West Germany had in absorbing the East Germans after the Berlin Wall fell.

It may well all come to naught. But it could also get better.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at June 12, 2018 11:22 AM (Sda6L)

157 President Trump has decided to go all out on foreign policy there is no doubt about that. Regardless of whether people voted for a more insular America, the reality is that we have Trump going after everyone on Tariffs, putting the embassy in Jerusalem and now North Korea. This NK thing has to be done right and will take major work. I think he likes it this way, we should support him and see how it goes.

Traditionally presidents have been judged on foreign policy even when they had not interest in such matters at the start. GWB is an example of this. Obama is an example of when presidents really just are not judged at all.

Posted by: Quint at June 12, 2018 11:22 AM (n13/j)

158 Escape From Camp 14 was the name of the book I was referencing above. Written by a man who was born in and escaped from a North Korean prison camp.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 12, 2018 11:23 AM (l14X/)

159 One last thing:

Jane D'oh--> Buy some Pacific cloth for silver. It really does work. You can buy pouches, or by the yard. I line the drawers with it and have some pouches for silver jewelry. Have to polish no more than once a year, and very little tarnish at that.

Bye for real now!

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2018 11:23 AM (HiDrR)

160 Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored
books! at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (hMwEB)

Also funny....

http://tinyurl.com/y8cdt6no

Posted by: Tami at June 12, 2018 11:23 AM (Enq6K)

161 >>32 Just took a tour of GOPe Seante twitter accounts. Nary a mention of Korea.



Weird, huh?

Posted by: Huck Follywood

The only time you hear positive things from these cocksuckers is when they are looking for money. Inspirational I tell ya.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 11:23 AM (r9UYA)

162 Thanks for the kid naming link. Made me laugh on the day I am officially old.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 12, 2018 11:23 AM (ZIvEq)

163 It may well all come to naught. But it could also get better.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at June 12, 2018 11:22 AM (Sda6L)

Agreed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 12, 2018 11:23 AM (wYseH)

164 There was a thief that broke into a couple's apartment in the middle of the night. When he saw all the furniture from Ikea, he felt bad for them. He didn't steal anything. In fact, he left a $20 bill on the coffee table.

Posted by: JAS at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (3HNOQ)

165 121 Nixon made overtures to Red China, whose human rights record sucks even worse than North Korea's. And the American Left was in love with the Soviet Union and its satellites for years.

I agree that human rights should be a consideration, but I don't need to be lectured on it by politicals who've ignored them when it was for their own convenience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under
_Communist_regimes#
People's_Republic_of_China
Posted by: MW at June 12, 2018 11:16 AM (wNx6K)


I was going to point this out and so true.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (dKiJG)

166 Hey Sis! Yes, good luck here. Lots of walleye, occasional cell signal, and zero bears so far. Weather is nice and cool. No storms. How are things there?

Posted by: Muad'dib at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (cYYLx)

167 146 Katsucon hasn't been the same since one of the founders finally stopped cosplaying as Shampoo. At over six feet, he was fooling no one.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (+l4K5)


Katsucon was awful from the time they put a chair in front of an elevator and everybody made an instant-meme out of it (that'd be 2000).

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (WDCYi)

168 Consider the difficulty West Germany had in absorbing the East Germans after the Berlin Wall fell.

There will be no reunification.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (Boy/L)

169
One last thing:



Jane D'oh--> Buy some Pacific cloth for silver. It really does
work. You can buy pouches, or by the yard. I line the drawers with it
and have some pouches for silver jewelry. Have to polish no more than
once a year, and very little tarnish at that.



Bye for real now!

Posted by: IrishEi at June 12, 2018 11:23 AM (HiDrR)


The silver drawers on my china cabinet and sideboard are lined with it. I really only have to polish once a year, just before Thanksgiving. Great stuff.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (ptqGC)

170 ...and just to pile on - Mrs. Reason has a partial set of silver from her dearly-departed widow of an aunt. A full-service set of silverware and servers, and some other interesting odds and ends.

Family sentiment, as she remembers going to visit as a kid, and her aunt hamming it up, making a big deal about "having company" and pulling out all the silver and china.

Posted by: reason at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (q/kmn)

171 Here's why I think Lil Rocket Man is serious: after the conference, off-handedly, Mike Pompeo said that if Kim played along that the US would guarantee North Korea's security just as we do South Korea's.

The implications of that are YUUUUGE: it means that the ChiComs have or are going to cut North Korea loose. And therefore Kim has every incentive to play nice with the rest of the world.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (ZGrMX)

172 My question in a nutshell: Are we okay with allowing NK to remain a dictatorship, even a repressive one, if it plays by the rules and doesn't go "1, 2, 3, 4, I declare thermonuclear war" on a bi-weekly basis? Because I don't see the Kim regime opening itself up to democracy, obviously. So if we can treat it like a smaller, much grimmer version of China, is that an option everyone's okay with?

Because I don't know. There's a lot of crap that country has to answer for.

Posted by: T at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (Vgw1E)

173 The bigger something gets, the worse it gets.

What'd I ever do to you?

Posted by: Michael Moore at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (kqsXK)

174 When the nuke site collapsed (for whatever reason) Un lacked the resources to keep his nuke gambit going. His military has been on a degrading slope for longer than he's been alive, and his people are played out.

If Trump is correct in his thinking (and I believe he is), then now is the time to bring the DPRK out from the communist hell its been living in and into the 21st century. After that reunification is possible with South Korea.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (O9qtX)

175 145
136

How can householders not want silver?





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Stainless steel. Twice as shiny with none of the hassle.



Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 12, 2018 11:19 AM (roQNm)

One word-
Chore.


Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (ymnmz)


More seriously, didn't the people who had drawers full of silver, china and crystal back in the day either have house keepers polish and hand wash it all it or a stay at home "Mom" ?
Nothing sounds less enjoyable than being a slave to your dinner / silverware just so you can keep up with the Jone's.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 12, 2018 11:25 AM (ymnmz)

176 We don't know what if any agreements were made on subjects like the Norks stopping work with Iran and probably others on nuke warhead and missile design and testing, the Norks stopping all political and physical sabotage crap in South Korea, and TBD other topics. I am betting PDT got Kim's agreements on several things along those lines. The Norks living up to any such secret agreements will have to be verified.

Posted by: Gref at June 12, 2018 11:25 AM (GHtHw)

177 When my eldest daughter was about five, we went on a Fourth of July picnic only to find that our cooler had sprung a leak and had gotten everything wet. My daughter said, "Look. It's Abraham Leakin'."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 11:25 AM (+y/Ru)

178
Stainless steel. Twice as shiny with none of the hassle.
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Stainless can be great -- but you have to have to check the weight. DiL bought a new set, against my recommendation, and it has not even lasted four years because too bendy.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 12, 2018 11:25 AM (MIKMs)

179 "Well, not everyone has formal occasions that call for silver. Plus it tarnishes so easily, so there's a decent bit of upkeep involved."

I have heard (take w/ grain of salt) that using silver flatwear on a regular basis keeps the tarnish somewhat at bay (as opposed to storing it over long periods of time). I would try to use it very often, even if this were not true. I just love the way it feels: so much more substantial that the usual stainless. Years ago I had a friend who used her silver for most meals.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at June 12, 2018 11:26 AM (aW5/6)

180 Thanks for the kid naming link. Made me laugh on the day I am officially old.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 12, 2018 11:23 AM (ZIvEq)
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Beckoning, it's your 29th birthday today? Happy birthday!

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 11:26 AM (oMtOd)

181 Israel's Temple foundation has released a half-shekel coin of Trump alongside Cyrus the Great.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018

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It's been suggested that the image of the Emperor Vespasian on Roman coins is actually Trump's.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 12, 2018 11:26 AM (G+x7t)

182 There will be no reunification.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (Boy/L)


I agree with this, for no other reason than China will want to maintain a buffer state between them and South Korea.

North Korea is essentially a vassal state of China, and none of this would be happening without China's overt and covert approval.

Posted by: filbert at June 12, 2018 11:26 AM (953wK)

183 I was at Katsucon 2000, I must have missed that one. *shrugs*

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 11:26 AM (+l4K5)

184 chick-a-fil in NK: "eat moar bark"
(double meaning in there, I think)

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 12, 2018 11:26 AM (KxbBq)

185 But first you will....

Posted by: The Margins at June 12, 2018 11:26 AM (Enq6K)

186 Really now. Are we gonna start calling Mitch McConnell a Battle Unicorn?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 11:27 AM (+y/Ru)

187
There was a thief that broke into a couple's apartment in the middle of
the night. When he saw all the furniture from Ikea, he felt bad for
them. He didn't steal anything. In fact, he left a $20 bill on the
coffee table.



Posted by: JAS at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (3HNOQ)


Lol. For some reason, that made me remember that ugly coffee table Barry had in the Oval Office.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:27 AM (ptqGC)

188 I don't trust Whoa Fat, either.

I hope to be pleasantly surprised.

And in other news, it's a beautiful day outside. The kind that makes you glad to be alive!

Posted by: ALH at June 12, 2018 11:27 AM (uLuPn)

189 We don't know what if any agreements were made on subjects like the Norks stopping work with Iran and probably others on nuke warhead and missile design and testing, the Norks stopping all political and physical sabotage crap in South Korea, and TBD other topics.

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But who really cares right? It doesn't matter what is accomplished - just so long as you can say something big was accomplished. That's what the media has taught us. And Trump is taking full advantage of that standard that the media has made. And just maybe ... something real was also accomplished.

Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 11:27 AM (sX1BW)

190 2000? Did they chisel your badge on a stone tablet?

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:27 AM (oZ6kz)

191 Hey Sis! Yes, good luck here. Lots of walleye, occasional cell signal, and zero bears so far. Weather is nice and cool. No storms. How are things there?
Posted by: Muad'dib at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (cYYLx)
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That all sounds good, especially the zero bears part. Weather is cool here too - 69 right now, which is unusual for us this time of year. But it will be in the 80s tomorrow. I'm enjoying it while I can.

Posted by: bluebell at June 12, 2018 11:27 AM (oMtOd)

192 How is Staten Island ferry doing? He wrote the best story of me and the Staten Island ferry and after that he has never written a good story. I don't know what happened. It's a long time ago.

Posted by: Old Man With Onion on His Belt at June 12, 2018 11:28 AM (VvjLK)

193 Seen on Twitter:

Hawaiian Judge orders North Korea to start producing nuclear weapons.

Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 11:28 AM (Z5y53)

194 But first you will....
Posted by: The Margins at June 12, 2018 11:26 AM (Enq6K)


You get all the easy action, you sluts.

Posted by: The Barrel at June 12, 2018 11:28 AM (953wK)

195 That being said, I would call it a good deal if part of it includes NK agreeing to us sending over some of our serial killers, child molesters, and the like for them to deal with. If there's anything that country does right, it's unspeakable torture.

Posted by: T at June 12, 2018 11:28 AM (Vgw1E)

196 Yes, Battle Unicorn is an excellent name, and much easier to spell.
Posted by: jim at June 12, 2018 10:55 AM (gjGvH)

One of the other kid names in that link is "hand socks" for "gloves". Not so far off the mark. The German word for glove is "handschuh". (if I spelled it right)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 12, 2018 11:28 AM (WFV7d)

197 Israel's Temple foundation has released a half-shekel coin of Trump alongside Cyrus the Great.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018

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I'm willing to bet Trump gets awarded "Rightous Among Nations" status when his presidency is over.

Posted by: Jackal at June 12, 2018 11:28 AM (Ng3pN)

198 That Ikea story is stolen from a stand-up comic.

Still funny though.

Posted by: JAS at June 12, 2018 11:29 AM (3HNOQ)

199 Escape From Camp 14 was the name of the book I was referencing above. Written by a man who was born in and escaped from a North Korean prison camp.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 12, 2018 11:23 AM (l14X/)


Good book, the guys moral compass is messed up because he grew up in a camp, turned his Mother and Brother in because she shared her hidden rice with the older son and were planning to escape without him, he was more upset that they didn't share the rice That's a big deal in their culture.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 12, 2018 11:29 AM (dKiJG)

200
That being said, I would call it a good deal if part of it includes NK
agreeing to us sending over some of our serial killers, child molesters,
and the like for them to deal with. If there's anything that country
does right, it's unspeakable torture.

Posted by: T at June 12, 2018 11:28 AM (Vgw1E)


Can we start with Maj. Hassan? And send Bergdahl over to vacay?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:29 AM (ptqGC)

201 Personally I thinh Dave in Texas has hit the nail on the head, However the need to show off by Whoa Fat made the mountain colapse sooner. Also ready to bet the ChiComs let it be known if they tested another and blew radiaton all over the place.

Posted by: Picric at June 12, 2018 11:29 AM (41NoD)

202 Bluebell, you triggered a long-repressed memory. My mother had a set of silverware with the family initial on the handles.

I have no idea what happened to it, and sadly, don't care. My sister cleaned up the mess when my father died. She got all of that stuff, and rightfully so, for cleaning up the mess.

I do wonder what happened to my slide rules from college.

You have to leave all of the baggage behind when you leave on a motorcycle with your clothes stuffed in an old army duffle and never go back.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 12, 2018 11:29 AM (roQNm)

203 Nope, no eco-friendly stone. Tree killing paper printed with nasty chemicals all laminated for eternity in plasticized dead dinosaur.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 11:30 AM (+l4K5)

204 Because if they just quit menacing Japan with missiles, that's a win.



Old way: Act up and US will give us money
New way: Anything is better than old way.

The perfect is the enemy of the good. Anything, even a pull back from shooting missiles over Japan is a win.

Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2018 11:30 AM (nRWPy)

205 Israel's Temple foundation has released a half-shekel coin of Trump alongside Cyrus the Great.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018

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I'm willing to bet Trump gets awarded "Rightous Among Nations" status when his presidency is over.
Posted by: Jackal at June 12, 2018 11:28 AM (Ng3pN)


Muddling ancient history beyond recognition . . . he does not seem to fear the occasional exercise in Gordian Knot Cutting.

Posted by: filbert at June 12, 2018 11:30 AM (953wK)

206 Lol. For some reason, that made me remember that ugly coffee table Barry had in the Oval Office.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:27 AM (ptqGC)

That was Reggie in action stance.

Posted by: dagny at June 12, 2018 11:31 AM (nRWPy)

207 "But this is the way it has always been done!"

And that way never worked.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 11:31 AM (WDCYi)

208 and I winder if Lil Kim isn't being more cooperative than he would want to be because his military is leaning on him. I doubt that his generals want their troops malnourished and living with parasites.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 12, 2018 11:32 AM (KxbBq)

209 Consider the difficulty West Germany had in absorbing the East Germans after the Berlin Wall fell.


This is going to wander. There was a guy named Bannion, remember Bannion?, who recommended to me a book on the Korean War. It's called This Kind of War, by T.R. Fehrenbach.

Now, it's a great history and it explains a lot of things about why everything that went wrong went wrong in perfectly understandable ways, but it doesn't get so much right in the way of futurism.

This book is written in, I think, 1960. Fehrenbach says that a real tragedy of the war is dividing the industrial North from the agricultural South. He thinks that maybe with 20 years of international aid a united Korea might not be an economic basket case.

And, well, that's funny to read in the age of Samsung and Hyundai.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:32 AM (fuK7c)

210 Trump hasn't tweeted in over 8 hours. That's gotta be a record.

Posted by: Tami at June 12, 2018 11:32 AM (Enq6K)

211 I heard the video that Trump showed to Kim compared to a real estate "sizzle video".

Well, duh.

The imagery is impressive. It shows a world that can be. All you gotta do is put down the nukes, and you can live in paradise.

Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 11:32 AM (Z5y53)

212
I'm willing to bet Trump gets awarded "Rightous Among Nations" status when his presidency is over.
Posted by: Jackal at June 12, 2018 11:28 AM (Ng3pN)

Muddling ancient history beyond recognition . . . he does not seem to fear the occasional exercise in Gordian Knot Cutting.
Posted by: filbert at June 12, 2018

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Plenty more worlds to conquer out there.

Posted by: God-Emperor DJT at June 12, 2018 11:32 AM (G+x7t)

213 Earl Campbell sez "Skoal, brothers!"

Posted by: Burger Chef at June 12, 2018 11:04 AM (RuIsu)

I hear ya bro' but don't forget Copenhagen, "it satisfies".


disclaimer Quint does not promote tobacco use among those under 18 years.

Posted by: Walt Garrison at June 12, 2018 11:32 AM (n13/j)

214 The margins are very relaxed now.

171 Here's why I think Lil Rocket Man is serious: after the conference, off-handedly, Mike Pompeo said that if Kim played along that the US would guarantee North Korea's security just as we do South Korea's.

The implications of that are YUUUUGE: it means that the ChiComs have or are going to cut North Korea loose. And therefore Kim has every incentive to play nice with the rest of the world.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (ZGrMX)


That also implies reunification. One Korea, denuclearized but under the US nuclear umbrella, would be a yuge win.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (RD7QR)

215 Uh, Brian...might want to dial that back a notch. Kim and his ilk are still evil shits.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:16 AM (Boy/L)

Of course they are. The NK people are slowly waking up though and there's never been a greater chance for his overthrow from within.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (UBzPO)

216 re 208: winder... wonder. gleesh.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (KxbBq)

217 Looking at some euro tabloid stuff, suddenly Anthony Bourdain's suicide makes perfect sense. He was always depressive, and still morose about his divorce when he met up with the Italian actress he's been hanging with. Now they were all big about "we will have an open relationship, we respect each other's freedom, we won't tie each other down" but in real life, it doesn't work that way. Especially when Anthony was left by himself in hotel room in France, while girlfriend who he is totally and wildly in love with jets back to Rome to bang some guy who's a lot hotter and younger than he is. And Anthony has to say that's great, that's just fine, because that's what all "open minded" and "progressive" men are supposed to say.

So Anthony looks in the mirror, and realizes he is never gonna be able to compete, and the new love of his life probably only feels some combination of feeling sorry for an old guy and liking his money. And for a depressive guy who's talked about suicide for years, that'd be all it took.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (k1TUh)

218 Okay genius morons. What two metals make up stainless steel?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (c6UIl)

219 >>186
Really now. Are we gonna start calling Mitch McConnell a Battle Unicorn?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

Battle Ostrich.



Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (r9UYA)

220 Bluebell, you triggered a long-repressed memory. My mother had a set of silverware with the family initial on the handles.

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Oddly enough, that triggered an old Miss Manners memory. Initials on linens and silver are of the woman's family (maiden name).

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (MIKMs)

221 Who dis-embiggened the blog?

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (+lOpA)

222 172 My question in a nutshell: Are we okay with allowing NK to remain a dictatorship, even a repressive one, if it plays by the rules and doesn't go "1, 2, 3, 4, I declare thermonuclear war" on a bi-weekly basis? Because I don't see the Kim regime opening itself up to democracy, obviously. So if we can treat it like a smaller, much grimmer version of China, is that an option everyone's okay with?

Because I don't know. There's a lot of crap that country has to answer for.
Posted by: T at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (Vgw1E)


Like China. How many have they killed? Millions and they are building bases in the Pacific Ocean.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 12, 2018 11:34 AM (dKiJG)

223 Remarkably, the lesbian couple that live behind us have a pair of
young black children, boys. Mother Nature, is there anything she can't
do?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (K2jyi)


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The California lesbians who drove off a cliff adopted 6 children, all black. I suspect it's a virtue signalling thing they do to counteract their guilt about their messed up sex lives.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 12, 2018 11:34 AM (/qEW2)

224 Iron and Chromium?

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:34 AM (oZ6kz)

225 Well, I've got all my late mother's silver, and some
lovely silver from other long-gone family members. I just hope I have a
DiL who wants it some day. Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2018 11:03 AM (ptqGC)

I have a lot of my mom's stuff - hers and her mother's.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 12, 2018 11:34 AM (hLRSq)

226 218 iron and nickel

Posted by: Muad'dib at June 12, 2018 11:34 AM (cYYLx)

227 >>218
Okay genius morons. What two metals make up stainless steel?

Stainless and Steel. Duh.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 11:34 AM (r9UYA)

228 218 Okay genius morons. What two metals make up stainless steel?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (c6UIl)

Oak and Vinyl?

Posted by: Hikaru at June 12, 2018 11:34 AM (WDCYi)

229 More seriously, didn't the people who had drawers full of silver, china and crystal back in the day either have house keepers polish and hand wash it all it or a stay at home "Mom" ?
Nothing sounds less enjoyable than being a slave to your dinner / silverware just so you can keep up with the Jone's.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless


Yes, I was my mother's child silver slave. I was tasked with polishing silver when I was young.
It was cruel. She was so tricksy, she was.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at June 12, 2018 11:34 AM (vcOmj)

230 219 >>186
Really now. Are we gonna start calling Mitch McConnell a Battle Unicorn?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

Battle Ostrich.


Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018

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Turtle Team One.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 12, 2018 11:34 AM (G+x7t)

231 Rumor is that Trump got Kim to buy a time share in the Bahamas.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 12, 2018 11:35 AM (hLRSq)

232 218 Okay genius morons. What two metals make up stainless steel?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (c6UIl)

Stainless and Steel, obviously.

That's St and St2 on the periodic table.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 12, 2018 11:35 AM (72PAC)

233 218 Okay genius morons. What two metals make up stainless steel?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (c6UIl)

Iron and chromium?

Posted by: josephistan at June 12, 2018 11:35 AM (7HtZB)

234 We are going to see video and pictures of President Trump, Chairman Kim, and Dennis Rodman attending a professional basketball game in the United States.

Yes it's going to happen and yes it will be surreal and yes it will be absolutely hilarious in that shitlib heads will literally explode over it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 12, 2018 11:35 AM (4ErVI)

235 Remarkably, the lesbian couple that live behind us have a pair of young black children, boys. Mother Nature, is there anything she can't do?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (K2jyi)

Prevent the the two lezzies from having a spat, and driving the entire "family" off a cliff in the SUV? (as happened not long ago in Clownifornia)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 12, 2018 11:35 AM (WFV7d)

236 I suspect it's a virtue signalling thing they do to counteract their guilt about their messed up sex lives.

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Catholic life in a nutshell.

Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 11:35 AM (sX1BW)

237 Okay genius morons. What two metals make up stainless steel?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM


"Stainless" & "Steel", silly

Posted by: Jen Psaki at June 12, 2018 11:35 AM (ZQfW9)

238 201 Personally I thinh Dave in Texas has hit the nail on the head, However the need to show off by Whoa Fat made the mountain colapse sooner. Also ready to bet the ChiComs let it be known if they tested another and blew radiaton all over the place.
Posted by: Picric at June 12, 2018 11:29 AM (41NoD)

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I'd argue it was the pivotal point in all of this. It basically showed the Chinese the Norks were getting to be more trouble than they were worth. In retrospect it seems obvious. An Eastern Bloc diplomat supposedly referred to NK as Goebblestan. If you are China, do you REALLY want a nuclear state like that on your border? I don't think they want to risk another mountain collapsing on their border with shitloads of fallout trapped within.

Posted by: Jackal at June 12, 2018 11:35 AM (Ng3pN)

239 208 and I winder if Lil Kim isn't being more cooperative than he would want to be because his military is leaning on him. I doubt that his generals want their troops malnourished and living with parasites.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 12, 2018 11:32 AM (KxbBq)


I don't know if this has been confirmed anywhere, but I saw somewhere that just before coming to Singapore, Kim sacked three of his top generals. Could have been a dispute over just that sort of thing; could have been a "hey, don't get ideas and try to launch a coup while I'm gone" deal.

Posted by: T at June 12, 2018 11:36 AM (Vgw1E)

240 Can I ensure you will sit down properly when you sit down? You can't ensure anything.

Posted by: Old Man With Onion on His Belt at June 12, 2018 11:36 AM (VvjLK)

241 The Horde Mind was strong with that one.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 12, 2018 11:36 AM (72PAC)

242 221 I am surprised I have not made a faux pas yet, considering I have no clue what I am doing.

Posted by: Quint at June 12, 2018 11:36 AM (n13/j)

243 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (k1TUh)


Very possible.

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 11:36 AM (+lOpA)

244 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 12, 2018 11:35 AM (WFV7d)

I've been wondering what your take is on the Ontario election.

Seems like a huge deal and big warning flag for Trudeau.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 12, 2018 11:36 AM (4ErVI)

245 Thank you to whoever blew the margins. Now maybe Bob will get back to work instead of trying to read the HQ in 3/4 pt font while on the crapper.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderber's boss at June 12, 2018 11:37 AM (sx1wG)

246 We are going to see video and pictures of President Trump, Chairman Kim, and Dennis Rodman attending a professional basketball game in the United States.


Bet it doesn't have LeBron James in it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 11:37 AM (5RITs)

247 If you are China, do you REALLY want a nuclear state like that on your border?

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In retrospect, perhaps China should never have backed NK? Would we still be there? Would they have more hegemony over the area if Korea had remained one country?

Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 11:37 AM (sX1BW)

248 Okay genius morons. What two metals make up stainless steel?
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Chrome and Iron, unless you want to count Carbon as a metal.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 12, 2018 11:37 AM (roQNm)

249 I don't trust Whoa Fat, either.

I hope to be pleasantly surprised.

And in other news, it's a beautiful day outside. The kind that makes you glad to be alive!
Posted by: ALH at June 12, 2018 11:27 AM (uLuPn)
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But here's the thing. Will you ever be able to trust him? Will a significant amount of distrust by Americans get him removed from power or as a threat?

So, we have to deal with him. We have to get from him what we can and make the deals we can, to minimize--if possible--their nuclear capability.

It's better to keep a close check on what he is doing, with a strained sort of congeniality, than let things go on as they have at the pace that they have.

Trump's reputation is on the line, and I don't think he is going to let himself get taken. Even if he encourages foreign investment in NK, and does information sharing with NK. We will have helped them no more or no less than other nations.

We need to get what we can, to slow down what we can. And I think Trump's pragmatism is the way to that.

The worse case scenario with Kim is the same it's ever been: he goes rogue and launches a nuke.

Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2018 11:38 AM (vDqXW)

250 Personally I thinh Dave in Texas has hit the nail on the head, However the need to show off by Whoa Fat made the mountain colapse sooner. Also ready to bet the ChiComs let it be known if they tested another and blew radiaton all over the place.


Posted by: Picric at June 12, 2018 11:29 AM (41NoD)


That, plus the NK Army might be in much worse shape than thought. The army defectors that crossed into SK recently all suffered from severe malnutrition. When you consider that the army is supposed to be the best fed segment of the NK population it makes you think Phat Boi might be in trouble

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at June 12, 2018 11:38 AM (10vO4)

251 172
My question in a nutshell: Are we okay with allowing NK to remain a
dictatorship, even a repressive one, if it plays by the rules and
doesn't go "1, 2, 3, 4, I declare thermonuclear war" on a bi-weekly
basis? Because I don't see the Kim regime opening itself up to
democracy, obviously. So if we can treat it like a smaller, much grimmer
version of China, is that an option everyone's okay with?



Because I don't know. There's a lot of crap that country has to answer for.

Posted by: T at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (Vgw1E)

We've been doing that in the middle east for 60 years so I don't know why not. Reunification/normalization will take a generation or more but it has to start somewhere.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 11:38 AM (UBzPO)

252 cervisiam meam tenebra

Posted by: PDT's official motto at June 12, 2018 11:38 AM (AURKQ)

253 Okay genius morons. What two metals make up stainless steel?

Like when they ask me my two favorite songs. One is by Waylon Jennings, and the other isn't

Steel and something else I guess.

Posted by: Quint at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (n13/j)

254 210 Trump hasn't tweeted in over 8 hours. That's gotta be a record.

==

jet lag

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (hMwEB)

255 "Bet it doesn't have LeBron James in it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 11:37 AM (5RITs) "

The Decision 2.0. He's taking his talents to Pyongyang.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (oZ6kz)

256 Prevent the the two lezzies from having a spat, and driving the entire "family" off a cliff in the SUV? (as happened not long ago in Clownifornia)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 12, 2018 11:35 AM (WFV7d)


Not to mention beating and/or starving them.

But remember, love is love.

Posted by: T at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (Vgw1E)

257 The German word for glove is "handschuh". (if I spelled it right)


Yes, except nouns are capitalized. German is a Lego language, you just mash all the words together to arrive at the concept you want.

A Handschuh is a hand shoe, which is to say a glove.

An Armbanduhr is an arm band clock, which is to say a watch.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (fuK7c)

258 When he saw all the furniture from Ikea, he felt bad for
them. He didn't steal anything. In fact, he left a $20 bill on the coffee table.'

LOL! Reminds me of a true story from New Orleans a few years back, when Bobby Hebert was quarterback of the Saints, and doing badly. A thief (or thieves) broke into a sporting goods store, cleaned out all kinds of memorabilia, including copies Saint's jersey's that were there - but they left all of the Hebert jersey's hanging on the rack. Didn't want to get stuck with those!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (k1TUh)

259 Okay genius morons. What two metals make up stainless steel?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM


Pro Tip: It's more than two.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (ctuyM)

260 182
There will be no reunification.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (Boy/L)



I agree with this, for no other reason than China will want to maintain a buffer state between them and South Korea.



North Korea is essentially a vassal state of China, and none of this
would be happening without China's overt and covert approval.

Posted by: filbert at June 12, 2018 11:26 AM (953wK)

No reunification any time soon. There is 70 years of dictator rule, China, etc. to overcome. But, baby steps. Perhaps we can officially declare the war between NK and USA over? Perhaps the nuclearization is truly resolved, who knows. I am very skeptical of NK, but the possibilities before us are incredible.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (jxbfJ)

261 Bradley Martin's book "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader" is, hands-down, the best history of the Kim dynasty and North Korea that I've seen. It was published before the death of Kim Jong-Il, but while Kim was ailing; and in it, Martin discusses the possible heirs to the throne. Kim Jong-Un was a dark horse at the time and only received a paragraph; but in it, Martin says that he (Kim Jong-Un) was his father's favorite to succeed him because he was "the most ruthless".
Kim Jong-Il's assessment of his youngest son's character certainly has been borne out: "ruthless" describes him perfectly. The notion that he has developed a soft spot in his heart for the welfare of the North Korean people is, frankly, risible.
What I think is happening - and what I think Trump is detecting - is that Jong-Un's ambition and ruthless may lead him to want to get out from under China's thumb: to be his own man, leading his own nation. I could see a North Korea under the US security umbrella, opening trade with the South and thumbing their noses at the Chi-Coms, who are becoming more arrogant by the day.
Frankly, it would be acceptable if North Korea continues to be horrible, as long as i t confines its horror to its own citizens. And removing North Korea as a tool that China can use against the US and our allies would be a YUGE!!! victory for US foreign policy.
A question I've not seen discussed is North Korea exportation of nuclear technology to places like Iran. I have no doubt that that's come up in the confidential discussions (or, at least, I HOPE so). If the Norks are willing to put a lid on that, or at least put it on the table, it would be beyond YUGE!!! - it would a genuine stride toward peace: the sort of breakthrough that Barack "Don't Call My Bluff" Obama yammered about, but never could make happen.
But it all depends on verification. Without solid verification, none of this is worth a tinker's damn.

Posted by: Brown Line at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (5BUDs)

262 219 >>186
Really now. Are we gonna start calling Mitch McConnell a Battle Unicorn?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

Battle Ostrich.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (r9UYA)

Battle Turtle

Posted by: ALH at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (uLuPn)

263 "There's a lot of crap that country has to answer for."

Understandable. But often you can be right, or get what you need. The latter is more important here, I think. (Full disclosure: I usually think so. I'm not big on principles or justice in foreign policy.)

If you'd had told me the USSR was going to fold without a fight, I'd have called you a fool. I was wrong though. Maybe the gig is simply up with NK. Maybe it will fold intentionally, or maybe like Gorbachev its regime thinks it can compromise a little and hang on but ends up folding anyway.

Hard to say. It's worth a gamble. Nothing we've done up to this point has worked.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (/8r1I)

264 So Anthony looks in the mirror, and realizes he is never gonna be able to compete, and the new love of his life probably only feels some combination of feeling sorry for an old guy and liking his money. And for a depressive guy who's talked about suicide for years, that'd be all it took.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (k1TUh)


I think I'm going to log off for the rest of the day. That hits a little too close for me.

Posted by: Michael Moore at June 12, 2018 11:40 AM (kqsXK)

265 NK might just be one place where the Harf Doctrine will work.

Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2018 11:40 AM (vDqXW)

266 Number of Trump advisers and surrogates planting stories on how good this deal is, funding phony think tanks to sell the deal and running smear campaigns against those opposed dressed up as news stories?

ZERO!

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 12, 2018 11:40 AM (TN1P5)

267 I am surprised I have not made a faux pas yet, considering I have no clue what I am doing.
Posted by: Quint at June 12, 2018 11:36 AM (n13/j)


First rule of Faux Pas Club is that we do not speak of Faux Pas Club.

Posted by: filbert at June 12, 2018 11:40 AM (953wK)

268 It's important to note that much of what we think we know about N.K. is from or own government's propaganda. Much has changed there since the famine in the 90's-00's. More and more western culture has gotten in through smuggled media, etc. It's very much like what brought China to Nixon in the 70's. Those people aren't going through another famine - most of them realize now that they've been lied to all these years.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 11:13 AM (UBzPO)


========

Well, I think the tapeworm was sincere, not mere propaganda.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 12, 2018 11:40 AM (/qEW2)

269 "Pro Tip: It's more than two.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (ctuyM) "

More than two elements, but carbon's not a metal.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:41 AM (oZ6kz)

270 Steel and something else I guess.
=====

Diamonds and rust.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 12, 2018 11:41 AM (MIKMs)

271 Chrome and Iron, unless you want to count Carbon as a metal.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 12, 2018 11:37 AM (roQNm)

Nickel's usually a big component in basic stainless alloys as well. Forget the 300/400 series distinction (it's been a while, and i focused on polymers instead of metals), but i believe it's mostly to do with nickel content.

Typically scads of other alloying elements too, but in smaller fractions.

Posted by: PDT's official motto at June 12, 2018 11:41 AM (AURKQ)

272 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (k1TUh)

Simple fact...

Dysfunction is contagious... and can become fatal.

Posted by: Don Q. at June 12, 2018 11:41 AM (NgKpN)

273 Stainless steel is primarily an alloy made from Iron, Chromium and Molybdenum

Iron is made into steel by first making it into "pig iron", blowing out most of the oxygen.
The old method of controlling the addition of oxygen and carbon to iron was to use coke (coke is made from coal, not the soft drink). This makes high carbon steel, not stainless.
The Stainless steel alloy is made by a controlled melt of carbon steel, chromium and moly, and is oxygenated to control amount of carbon, etc so that it alloys properly.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at June 12, 2018 11:41 AM (vcOmj)

274
Really now. Are we gonna start calling Mitch McConnell a Battle Unicorn?


He's one of us.

Posted by: Snapping Turtle at June 12, 2018 11:41 AM (10vO4)

275 "I still think this is cause Kim's mountain of nuke test shit blew up..."

Well,of course it is. And Barky would have sent him a pallet of cash in the dead of night to rebuild it.

Posted by: Thirdtwin at June 12, 2018 11:41 AM (Od14x)

276 (my gosh, that's like my fifth sock fail in a week...)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 11:41 AM (AURKQ)

277 Battle Turtle==============

Works for me

Posted by: Huck Follywood, coffee drinker at June 12, 2018 11:41 AM (LISuA)

278 Panzerkampfwagen is easy to spell, the German for limited liability company looks like the Krauts stole a word from the Welch.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 11:41 AM (+l4K5)

279 38 I don't see how Kim can ever denuclearize. Without the threat of nukes, he isn't going to be able to keep the world from interfering in his creepy, isolated, dictatorship. If the outside world gets in, he'll end up like Gaddafi.

yeah, but if he pulls it off, he'll be able to pop down to the Waffle House for a waffle any time he wants instead of getting rubbery Chinese knockoffs smuggled in once a year.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 12, 2018 11:42 AM (NmR1a)

280 218 Okay genius morons. What two metals make up stainless steel?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM (c6UIl)


Stainless steel refers to a group of iron based alloys containing a minimum 10.5% chromium. Various alloys contain other elements such as nickel and molybdenum.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 12, 2018 11:42 AM (kUmUV)

281 The most common source for silver used form making silverware in Colonial times was specie coins.

Posted by: mrp at June 12, 2018 11:42 AM (Pqytn)

282 234
We are going to see video and pictures of President Trump, Chairman Kim,
and Dennis Rodman attending a professional basketball game in the
United States.



Yes it's going to happen and yes it will be surreal and yes it will
be absolutely hilarious in that shitlib heads will literally explode
over it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 12, 2018 11:35 AM (4ErVI)

Bonus points if Rodman wears a dress.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 11:42 AM (UBzPO)

283 304 or 316?

Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2018 11:42 AM (vDqXW)

284 Because I don't know. There's a lot of crap that country has to answer for.

Posted by: T at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (Vgw1E)

We've been doing that in the middle east for 60 years so I don't know why not. Reunification/normalization will take a generation or more but it has to start somewhere."

Agreed - we gave a good effort to being World Police back under GWB, and how did that work out for us? What did we get back in exchange for the trillions of dollars and thousands of lives we gave up?

We have two interests in Korea - he needs to give up his nukes, and he needs to stop his ICBM program. If he gives up those two, I don't care if he stays in charge from now til doomsday. In fact I would say that anyone else inside his country today would almost certainly be worse.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 12, 2018 11:42 AM (k1TUh)

285 Okay genius morons. What two metals make up stainless steel?
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 11:33 AM

Pro Tip: It's more than two.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (ctuyM)

Yes it's a little more complicated as there are different classes. I should have said the main two metals in the most common class. The chromium Nickel alloy . Then again I'm just recalling my 5th grade science class so I'm just a moron and not a moron genius.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 11:43 AM (c6UIl)

286 Prevent the the two lezzies from having a spat, and driving the entire
"family" off a cliff in the SUV? (as happened not long ago in
Clownifornia)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 12, 2018 11:35 AM (WFV7d)

We need common sense lesbian control. Background checks, red flags, and mental health checks. Oh, and almost forgot -- tongue and groove construction techniques should be heavily monitored and regulated.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 12, 2018 11:43 AM (jxbfJ)

287 Okay genius morons. What two metals make up stainless steel?


Do they both have to be metal?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 12, 2018 11:43 AM (FsRTQ)

288 Okay, so apparently molybdenum is a metal that's in most stainless steel alloys. I just know for trivia purposes that stainless steel = iron + chromium.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:43 AM (oZ6kz)

289 You never be ronrey at Pyongyang Chick Firay.

Posted by: Bigmack Jong Un at June 12, 2018 11:43 AM (xBSm0)

290 Chrome - chromium

whats in a name? Would gold be as heavy if it was named differently? Would it be as valuable?

There is a story about Leadville Colorado where the gold miners were having difficulty panning for gold because the black sand was as heavy as the gold dust and panning wouldn't separate out the gold particles.

The black sand turned out to be lead and was commercially more valuable than the gold deposits.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 12, 2018 11:43 AM (roQNm)

291 238
201 Personally I thinh Dave in Texas has hit the nail on the head,
However the need to show off by Whoa Fat made the mountain colapse
sooner. Also ready to bet the ChiComs let it be known if they tested
another and blew radiaton all over the place.

Posted by: Picric at June 12, 2018 11:29 AM (41NoD)



======================



I'd argue it was the pivotal point in all of this. It basically
showed the Chinese the Norks were getting to be more trouble than they
were worth. In retrospect it seems obvious. An Eastern Bloc diplomat
supposedly referred to NK as Goebblestan. If you are China, do you
REALLY want a nuclear state like that on your border? I don't think they
want to risk another mountain collapsing on their border with shitloads
of fallout trapped within.

Posted by: Jackal at June 12, 2018 11:35 AM (Ng3pN)

I had made this case some time ago. China and Norks both know ( I am guessing here) that the tired mount is soooooo tired it's going to shit the bed. The Norks suspect that when it does, the pollution will be so great that the world cannot let it stand and China said go ask Uncle Sugar for help, cause SNAP we are out! So Lil Kim is trying to find a way to clean up tired mountain and keep his head as head of state.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 12, 2018 11:44 AM (ymnmz)

292 283 304 or 316?
Posted by: Axeman

Sitting cross-legged on the floor
25 or 6 to 4

Posted by: Rick in SK at June 12, 2018 11:44 AM (FZYNt)

293 niobium

gots to have niobium

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 12, 2018 11:44 AM (ZQfW9)

294 daughter #1 graduated HS yesterday.

I told her that she is now unemployed.

All the speeches were about going out and changing the world. I told her that Hitler changed the world.

i'm a hell of a Dad

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at June 12, 2018 11:44 AM (PNcou)

295 I have one of the great memories of all time. I don't have to do that. Okay. I don't want to discuss it. We have had numerous discussions.

Posted by: Old Man With Onion on His Belt at June 12, 2018 11:44 AM (VvjLK)

296 We are going to see video and pictures of President Trump, Chairman Kim, and Dennis Rodman attending a professional basketball game in the United States.

Yes it's going to happen and yes it will be surreal and yes it will be absolutely hilarious in that shitlib heads will literally explode over it."

The Pyongyang Globetrotters!!!
vs.
The Washington Never-T's!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 12, 2018 11:44 AM (k1TUh)

297 My brother in law has a shirt with a rhino silhouette and it says "Save the Chubby Unicorn."

Posted by: buzzion at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (cAnNx)

298 Now that A-kon 29 is in the history books, A-kon 30 will be here soon enough.

So perhaps cospura? But if so it must be something subtle, skillful, and sophisticated to mark such an occasion. What to do?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (+l4K5)

299 Re Stainless steel metal constituents: need more info. are you asking the two metals of the largest percentage? Because most stainless steels contain more than two metals.

Posted by: Gref at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (GHtHw)

300 Mercury and windex?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (FsRTQ)

301 Fuck that monkey in particular

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (zfrbv)

302 >NK might just be one place where the Harf Doctrine will work.



What is the Harf Doctrine?


Just checked Drudge, an in the top links (upper left corner) the last one is the most tired MSM spin: "Summit produced less than many analysts expected"


They *always* use missed expectations when a Republican does something good (increases employment, decreases debt, whatever): it failed because it failed to meet some nameless person's expectations. Right up there with "some say" = what the reporter and friends think.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (W+vEI)

303 We have two interests in Korea - he needs to give up his nukes, and he needs to stop his ICBM program. If he gives up those two, I don't care if he stays in charge from now til doomsday. In fact I would say that anyone else inside his country today would almost certainly be worse.

----------

From a pure strategic point of view, that could be a great outcome - if not ideal. Only because an ideal outcome is probably not possible. At the end of the day, NK provides a buffer state for the 4 countries who have a competing interest in that area. Regardless of whether you think Russia really has an interest there, it is a bordering country, so it does de facto.

Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (sX1BW)

304 I'm in trouble with my daughter .... again.

She and my SIL went to last night's 'book tour' event in San Antonio for Bill Clinton's alleged book. I babysat granddaughter and grand-dog for them. When they got home I learned they'd paid $60 dollars each to attend. I was appalled.

I told them I've attended well over 2 dozen book tour events in my life and NEVER paid a dime. They got defensive and explained it was an opportunity to see and hear an ex-president.

I said he was there to sell books as an alleged fiction author - and then asked if they'd paid an entrance fee to the car dealer when they purchased their new car.

"Thank-you for baby-sitting Dad ... be careful driving home." My daughter smiled through a grimace.

Sigh.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (5fkET)

305 I'm not getting the Ozzie man is funny thing. But then again I think you guyz are funny, so theres that.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (2CQCl)

306

One of the other kid names in that link is "hand socks" for "gloves". Not so far off the mark. The German word for glove is "handschuh". (if I spelled it right)


Then shouldn't there also be "foot gloves" too?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (HaL55)

307 "What is the Harf Doctrine?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (W+vEI) "

Wear a low-cut top to job interviews?

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:46 AM (oZ6kz)

308 There can not be an aftermarket for my music collection. There's nobody who will pay top dollar for oh, some Beethoven, a lot of Rolling Stones, some Iggy Pop, Robert Johnson, and some Steeleye Span.

It's the most annoying thievery experience of my life.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (fuK7c)

And you know why thieves steal your stuff? 99% of the time it's to get a few dollars in pocket to buy drugs. They ain't stealing your shit to put their kids through college.

I would be totally in favor of a three-strikes law for burglary. Third conviction nets the lucky winner a 9 mm round to the base of the skull.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 12, 2018 11:46 AM (WFV7d)

309 29 Definitely a bad day for NeverTrumps. Patterico is taking major pipe for his mean girl substance free snark. Fat Fuck Erickson not heard from because nobody cares.

---

Oh Erickson is out there screaming that if Obama had done this we would be as outraged as they are. Same with Shapiro. The rest of them are in various stages of meltdown. They simply can't believe this continues to happen to them.

Posted by: Fortunato at June 12, 2018 11:46 AM (i7hvJ)

310 247 If you are China, do you REALLY want a nuclear state like that on your border?

-----------

In retrospect, perhaps China should never have backed NK? Would we still be there? Would they have more hegemony over the area if Korea had remained one country?
Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 11:37 AM (sX1BW)


==================


Very likely, yes. But keep in mind the present status quo is an artifact of the Cold War and China tends to prefer the status quo on a very basic level. The one time that I think it was possible to mediate a reunified but neutral Korea was in the early 90's. The country was less of a mess at the time and reunification might have been more managable. I think it failed because:

1. Clinton rolled over and gave them what they wanted
2. China did not want to risk a democratic revolution on their border only 5 years after Tianamen Square.
3. I think old man Kim was not giving up his fiefdom without some arm twisting.

Posted by: Jackal at June 12, 2018 11:47 AM (Ng3pN)

311 I still enjoy the rumors about RODS FROM GOD that Trump ordered the mountain test site destroyed and that scared the crap out of the NORKS.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 12, 2018 11:47 AM (dKiJG)

312
Mercury and windex?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (FsRTQ)


That's Streak Free Steel

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 12, 2018 11:47 AM (10vO4)

313 >>We are going to see video and pictures of President Trump, Chairman Kim, and Dennis Rodman attending a professional basketball game in the United States.


Like this?

http://keywordsuggest.org/gallery/184173.html

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 11:47 AM (W+vEI)

314 If you'd had told me the USSR was going to fold
without a fight, I'd have called you a fool. I was wrong though. Maybe
the gig is simply up with NK. Maybe it will fold intentionally, or maybe
like Gorbachev its regime thinks it can compromise a little and hang on
but ends up folding anyway.



Hard to say. It's worth a gamble. Nothing we've done up to this point has worked.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 12, 2018 11:39 AM (/8r1I)

Gorbachev resigned as the USSR broke up. If a drunken Yeltsin hadn't succeeded him things might have been very different.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 11:47 AM (UBzPO)

315 The Norks suspect that when it does, the pollution will be so great that the world cannot let it stand and China said go ask Uncle Sugar for help, cause SNAP we are out! So Lil Kim is trying to find a way to clean up tired mountain and keep his head as head of state."

China doesn't have the option of ignoring the mountain's problems, because it's less than 50 miles from the Chinese border. Originally, the Nork's liked having it so close because it made it very hard for the US to mess around with it.

There's a plan that backfired in a way that they never thought it would.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 12, 2018 11:47 AM (k1TUh)

316 #Nevertrumpers have a real talent for stepping on rakes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 12, 2018 11:47 AM (FsRTQ)

317 The Limeys say 'Chrominium'.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 12, 2018 11:47 AM (xBSm0)

318 From Sean Spicier:

The good thing about the Eagles not visiting the White House is now the staff won't have to hide the good silverware.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 12, 2018 11:47 AM (+y/Ru)

319 What is the Harf Doctrine?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (W+vEI) "
---
That ISIS needed jobs.

Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2018 11:47 AM (vDqXW)

320 "What is the Harf Doctrine?

Posted by: Lizzy


newbies need to take it easy else they Harf on my dick

Posted by: Zombie John Holmes at June 12, 2018 11:48 AM (FZYNt)

321 252 cervisiam meam tenebra
Posted by: PDT's official motto at June 12, 2018

*
*
"My beer is dark"???

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 12, 2018 11:48 AM (G+x7t)

322 Right up there with "some say" = what the reporter and friends think.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (W+vEI)

Didn't Thatcher call some BBC pimple on that once?

"Who? Who says? Give me one name of one person who has ever said that."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 11:48 AM (AURKQ)

323 "I would be totally in favor of a three-strikes law for burglary. Third conviction nets the lucky winner a 9 mm round to the base of the skull.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 12, 2018 11:46 AM (WFV7d) "

But I was told every thief is just like Jan Valjean, a noble soul who only takes to feed his starving family.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:48 AM (oZ6kz)

324 A Battle Romney is usually placed in the Rear.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 11:48 AM (r9UYA)

325 one of Colorado's biggest molybdenum deposits left over from the big mining rush is in Crested Butte.

unfortunately the site is popular as a ski area, since it is far from the main I 70 corridor.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 11:48 AM (PuNWi)

326 "My beer is dark"???
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 12, 2018 11:48 AM (G+x7t)

"hold my beer"... except i forgot the imperative form of "tenere"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 11:48 AM (AURKQ)

327 But keep in mind the present status quo is an artifact of the Cold War and China tends to prefer the status quo on a very basic level.

-----------

Sometimes there is a benefit to never being the craziest neighbor in the neighborhood.

Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 11:48 AM (sX1BW)

328 252 cervisiam meam tenebra

Posted by: PDT's official motto


either there needs to be a verb in there somewhere or there's been a freudian slip.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 12, 2018 11:49 AM (xGZ+b)

329 "What is the Harf Doctrine?"

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (W+vEI)

Harf in the toilet when Obama speaks?

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 11:49 AM (Bdeb0)

330 OT - Just read that Tom McEwen "Mongoose" from the NHRA passed away. I think I owned all of the Snake & Mongoose Hot Wheel cars at one time or another.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 12, 2018 11:49 AM (Y9uH4)

331

Bonus points if Rodman wears a dress.


Or just wears his feather boa. We're not picky.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 12, 2018 11:49 AM (HaL55)

332 Just heard the comments PDT made in regards to Otto Warmbier and his parents.
"Otto did not die in vain."
"We would not be here if not for Otto."

Genuine, heartfelt, true.

PDT is a remarkable guy.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 12, 2018 11:49 AM (0tfLf)

333 but Gorsh Korea

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 12, 2018 11:50 AM (FOPyv)

334 "one of Colorado's biggest molybdenum deposits left over from the big mining rush is in Crested Butte.

unfortunately the site is popular as a ski area, since it is far from the main I 70 corridor.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 11:48 AM (PuNWi) "

Ah, Crested Butte. Good skiing, and the eternal thrill of chuckling like a 7 year old at visiting a place that looks like it's named "Crusted Butt."

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:50 AM (oZ6kz)

335 I still have a bike from the early 70s -- it needs some help at the moment -- that has Reynolds 531 chrome molybdenum tubing.

It's also double butted, but dare I trust you Morons with that?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:50 AM (fuK7c)

336 I think China didn't care about NK going nuclear. If they did, the Pakistani connection would have been a non-starter. What China REALLY doesn't want is a nuclear Japan and a nuclear SK and a nuclear Taiwan. India already has the bomb and that's a big enough threat.

Posted by: mrp at June 12, 2018 11:50 AM (Pqytn)

337 i'm a hell of a Dad

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at June 12, 2018 11:44 AM (PNcou)

Sounds like good parenting to me.

Posted by: Quint at June 12, 2018 11:50 AM (n13/j)

338 Just remember, even if this deal goes nowhere...

1) What did we give up to get here?
2) What did they give up to get here?

I think you'll find that math works out in our favor...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at June 12, 2018 11:50 AM (AM1GF)

339 My question in a nutshell: Are we okay with allowing NK to remain a dictatorship, even a repressive one, if it plays by the rules and doesn't go "1, 2, 3, 4, I declare thermonuclear war" on a bi-weekly basis? Because I don't see the Kim regime opening itself up to democracy, obviously. So if we can treat it like a smaller, much grimmer version of China, is that an option everyone's okay with?

Because I don't know. There's a lot of crap that country has to answer for.
Posted by: T at June 12, 2018 11:24 AM (Vgw1E)


========

What would happen if the dictatorship were somehow ended? The Democrats would try to bring them all here in order to complete their coup and gain a supermajority. No thanks. Even if every last Dem were eradicated, who's to say such meddling wouldn't be a cure worse than the disease?

This seems to fall into the category of "serenity to accept the things I cannot change".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 12, 2018 11:51 AM (/qEW2)

340 >>That ISIS needed jobs.




Sadly, that was the Obama-Kerry-Rhodes-Powers-Rice doctrine, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 11:51 AM (W+vEI)

341
Steel and something else I guess.
=====


Magic metal from Wakanda

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 12, 2018 11:51 AM (IqV8l)

342 Again, the devil took Kim to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their riches. "Your country, too, can be like all of these," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."

Posted by: Pastor James Comey at June 12, 2018 11:51 AM (vDqXW)

343 It's also double butted, but dare I trust you Morons with that?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

So 2 women and a long flexible plastic device?

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 11:52 AM (Bdeb0)

344 I want to tell him about the meeting and it was very successful. He is a fine gentleman. Also a friend of mine. I look forward to speaking to him. He will be very happy. I sent word about what happened. I sent the document to him. And all of the details behind the document. I'll talk to him shortly.

Posted by: Old Man With Onion on His Belt at June 12, 2018 11:52 AM (VvjLK)

345 one of Colorado's biggest molybdenum deposits left over from the big mining rush is in Crested Butte.
There was a great pizza place up there in Crusty Butt.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 12, 2018 11:52 AM (xBSm0)

346 Oh Erickson is out there screaming that if Obama had done this we would be as outraged as they are.

Narrator: Trump is not Obama.

Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 11:52 AM (Z5y53)

347
A Battle Romney is usually placed in the Rear.


Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 11:48 AM (r9UYA)



A Battle Jeb can sit in any room and turns on the lights when you clap

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 12, 2018 11:52 AM (10vO4)

348 I think it's a lot more likely that Kim is cooperating because China told him to rather than any other reason.

North Korea is a creature of China and they do nothing without China's approval.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2018 11:52 AM (/tuJf)

349 304 or 316?
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2018 11:42 AM


What are we, chopped martensite?

Posted by: 440 Series at June 12, 2018 11:52 AM (ctuyM)

350 one of Colorado's biggest molybdenum deposits left over from the big mining rush is in Crested Butte.

****************

Any chance I can go mining there on my own and strike it rich?

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 11:52 AM (+dsLj)

351 314 - Sometimes you get lucky; sometimes you don't. Generic expressions of pessimism? Sure, fine. Maybe things do go south. But what's your viable alternative, right now?

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 12, 2018 11:53 AM (/8r1I)

352 306 One of the other kid names in that link is "hand socks" for "gloves". Not so far off the mark. The German word for glove is "handschuh". (if I spelled it right)


Then shouldn't there also be "foot gloves" too?


you mean a foothandschuh? wouldn't put it past the germans, who one might expect to also pop out with wandarmbanduhr for a wall clock.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 12, 2018 11:53 AM (NmR1a)

353 What is the Harf Doctrine?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM



When news breaks, lead with the sweater puppies.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 12, 2018 11:53 AM (0tfLf)

354 #Nevertrumpers have a real talent for stepping on rakes.
Posted by: Cicero


At some point, they really like it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 12, 2018 11:53 AM (zfrbv)

355 Gorbachev resigned as the USSR broke up. If a drunken Yeltsin hadn't succeeded him things might have been very different.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 11:47 AM (UBzPO)


We still would have gotten Putin or someone like him, imho. Russia is still Russia.

There was a reason why Yeltsin drank so much. He knew his people.

Posted by: filbert at June 12, 2018 11:53 AM (953wK)

356 There was a great pizza place up there in Crusty Butt.

***********************

Do you remember the name? I love going up the Butt whenever I can.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 11:53 AM (+dsLj)

357 Oh Erickson is out there screaming that if Obama had done this we would be as outraged as they are.

Narrator: Trump is not Obama.

----------

Its not hypocrisy, its trusting your side better. This isn't hard.

Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 11:53 AM (sX1BW)

358 There can not be an aftermarket for my music collection. There's nobody who will pay top dollar for oh, some Beethoven, a lot of Rolling Stones, some Iggy Pop, Robert Johnson, and some Steeleye Span.

It's the most annoying thievery experience of my life.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (fuK7c)

And you know why thieves steal your stuff? 99% of the time it's to get a few dollars in pocket to buy drugs. They ain't stealing your shit to put their kids through college.

I would be totally in favor of a three-strikes law for burglary. Third conviction nets the lucky winner a 9 mm round to the base of the skull.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Heh. The last time I had a vehicle broken into, all that was lost was the cheese and peanut butter crackers kept in the middle island for when dad's blood sugar got low. Left the satellite radio, the fishing gear, the working tools...wasn't sure whether to feel violated or insulted...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at June 12, 2018 11:53 AM (AM1GF)

359 Alloy 3:16 says I just chromed your iron. And that's the bottom line cuz Bessemer said so.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 11:53 AM (oZ6kz)

360 Diamonds and rust.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 12, 2018 11:41 AM (MIKMs)
----
No, that's how you make British Steel.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 11:54 AM (AzW6q)

361
My question in a nutshell: Are we okay with allowing NK to remain a dictatorship, even a repressive one, if it plays by the rules and doesn't go "1, 2, 3, 4, I declare thermonuclear war" on a bi-weekly basis?

Who are we to tell others how they should live anyhow?
Yeah, let's build some more democracies. Worked out great last time, huh?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 12, 2018 11:54 AM (IqV8l)

362 I think it's a lot more likely that Kim is cooperating because China told him to rather than any other reason.

North Korea is a creature of China and they do nothing without China's approval.

------------

If I'm China, what I want more than anything is for the US to leave the Korean peninsula.

Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 11:55 AM (sX1BW)

363 That being said, it is an undeniable victory. President Trump has forced North Korea to the negotiating table
..............

So. How many celebs hung themselves this morning?

Posted by: wth at June 12, 2018 11:55 AM (HgMAr)

364 Diamonds and rust.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 12, 2018 11:41 AM (MIKMs)
----
No, that's how you make British Steel.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

I thought that was the wiring harness on a Brit Jaguar?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 11:55 AM (5RITs)

365 Diamonds and rust.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 12, 2018 11:41 AM (MIKMs)
----
No, that's how you make British Steel.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 11:54 AM (AzW6q)
---
Golf clap.

Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2018 11:56 AM (vDqXW)

366 I told them I've attended well over 2 dozen book tour events in my life and NEVER paid a dime. They got defensive and explained it was an opportunity to see and hear an ex-president.
I said he was there to sell books as an alleged fiction author - and then asked if they'd paid an entrance fee to the car dealer when they purchased their new car.
"Thank-you for baby-sitting Dad ... be careful driving home." My daughter smiled through a grimace.
Sigh.
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 12, 2018 11:45 AM (5fkET)


You'll be seeing this on this Sunday's book thread.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 12, 2018 11:56 AM (wHMIo)

367

OT - Just read that Tom McEwen "Mongoose" from the NHRA passed away. I think I owned all of the Snake & Mongoose Hot Wheel cars at one time or another.


I got to see them put on an exhibition race once back when I was a real live Boy.

Crap. As NASCAR keeps trotting out kids to race who appear to have no personality to speak of (or with), I'm starting to enjoy drag racing more. I miss the grizzled old veteran racers who actually held down real-life jobs before they got to be full-time drivers. These kids they produce these days aren't that good on the track and spout nothing but canned phrases.

My lawn. I'm paving it over and installing timing lights.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 12, 2018 11:56 AM (HaL55)

368 So. How many celebs hung themselves this morning?
Posted by: wth

Dude, too soon

Posted by: Zombie Anthony Bourdain at June 12, 2018 11:56 AM (FZYNt)

369 Gorbachev resigned as the USSR broke up. If a drunken Yeltsin hadn't succeeded him things might have been very different.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 11:47 AM (UBzPO)

We still would have gotten Putin or someone like him, imho. Russia is still Russia.

There was a reason why Yeltsin drank so much. He knew his people.
Posted by: filbert at June 12, 2018 11:53 AM (953wK)

Ain't that the truth. I watched the entire Stalin : Apocalypse documentary. The Russian Civil War to the formation of the USSR has to be the most convoluted political event in history.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 11:56 AM (c6UIl)

370 Russia may still be Russia. But it damn sure isn't the USSR. There's no comparison between today's Russia and 1980's Soviet Union in terms of its dangerousness or ability to project force.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 12, 2018 11:56 AM (/8r1I)

371 My question in a nutshell: Are we okay with allowing NK to remain a dictatorship, even a repressive one, if it plays by the rules and doesn't go "1, 2, 3, 4, I declare thermonuclear war" on a bi-weekly basis?

Do we have the resources to burn and the long term will to not f*** it up?

I think I know the answer. And it's the second question that's key...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at June 12, 2018 11:56 AM (AM1GF)

372 My question in a nutshell: Are we okay with allowing NK to remain a dictatorship, even a repressive one, if it plays by the rules and doesn't go "1, 2, 3, 4, I declare thermonuclear war" on a bi-weekly basis?

Who are we to tell others how they should live anyhow?
Yeah, let's build some more democracies. Worked out great last time, huh?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 12, 2018 11:54 AM (IqV8l)


My answer, in a nutshell: yes, I'm okay with "allowing" NK to remain a dictatorship.

Especially because it isn't within our power to change it, except by incremental steps.

Incremental steps like the one that took place last night.

And never, ever forget that things in North Korea don't happen in a vacuum.

China.

Posted by: filbert at June 12, 2018 11:57 AM (953wK)

373 Do you remember the name? I love going up the Butt whenever I can.
I do not. All remember was it was deep dish style and if you could eat the whole thing it was free.
I could eat two pieces and not die.
The sizes were listed in pounds of toppings, rather than diameter.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 12, 2018 11:57 AM (xBSm0)

374 >>363
That being said, it is an undeniable victory. President Trump has forced North Korea to the negotiating table

..............



So. How many celebs hung themselves this morning?

Posted by: wth

Screw the celebs, I hope it flat lines McCain.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 11:57 AM (r9UYA)

375 I'd just like to see NK slowly westernify through South Korean osmosis.

No more nation building plz. thx.

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 11:57 AM (+lOpA)

376
When news breaks, lead with the sweater puppies.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 12, 2018 11:53 AM (0tfLf)


Now there's a doctrine we can all get in front of

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 12, 2018 11:57 AM (10vO4)

377 I think it's a lot more likely that Kim is cooperating because China told him to rather than any other reason.

North Korea is a creature of China and they do nothing without China's approval.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2018 11:52 AM (/tuJf)


Alternatively - Kim is cooperating to get out from under China's thumb.

Who would NK need security guarantees against if they opened up the economy?

Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 11:57 AM (Z5y53)

378 >>If I'm China, what I want more than anything is for the US to leave the Korean peninsula.

That and for Trump to stop squeezing my balls on trade. Little Justin isn't the only person Trump is going after on trade hammer and tong.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2018 11:57 AM (/tuJf)

379 What are we, chopped martensite?
Posted by: 440 Series at June 12, 2018 11:52 AM (ctuyM)

MatSci humor is just casting pearlite perfore swines.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 11:57 AM (AURKQ)

380 Ain't that the truth. I watched the entire Stalin :
Apocalypse documentary. The Russian Civil War to the formation of the
USSR has to be the most convoluted political event in history.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 11:56 AM (c6UIl)

=============================
The safe bet is to blame the Germans.

Posted by: mrp at June 12, 2018 11:58 AM (Pqytn)

381 Stainless steel. Twice as shiny with none of the hassle.

Indeed. Stands up to abrasion, easier to clean, and higher tensile strength.

*shrugs*
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 12, 2018 11:20 AM (7LY+6)

Stainless steel is a lot more practical. But its color has a bluish cast to it. Silver is more white in color.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 12, 2018 11:58 AM (WFV7d)

382 So. How many celebs hung themselves this morning?
Posted by: wth at June 12, 2018 11:55 AM (HgMAr)


Not enough.

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 11:58 AM (+lOpA)

383 I was thinking how leery people ar eof Kim because he's a dictator.

There's a few things to consider though: one is that he's young and more malleable to change, another is that he's been exposed to the west so he knows what he's missing out on, and third we have precedence of dictators who see the writing on the wall and transform into something better, if not for their own self-preservation, but for the good of the country. If Kim has any sense left, he may realize that instead of going down as just another POS dictator in a long line of failed tyrants, he could go down as the man who helped unify Korea and bring NK into a modern age of peace and prosperity.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 11:58 AM (+dsLj)

384 Rodman could end up US Ambassador to N Korea.

Posted by: davidt at June 12, 2018 11:58 AM (TKQ/l)

385 367
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
++++++++++++++++++++

Fortunate enough to live near Ennis, where they host the NHRA. Been to several events there. If that doesn't get your heart pumping, nothing will.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 12, 2018 11:59 AM (Y9uH4)

386 Teen pregnancies chart reminds me of chances of a man winning an argument with a woman.

DATING = 50%

ENGAGED = 25%

MARRIED = 0%

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 12, 2018 11:59 AM (pw+jk)

387 Russia may still be Russia. But it damn sure isn't the USSR. There's no comparison between today's Russia and 1980's Soviet Union in terms of its dangerousness or ability to project force.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 12, 2018 11:56 AM (/8r1I)


Isn't there a foreign policy truism that goes something like "Russia is never as strong as it appears, and Russia is never as weak as it appears?"

Posted by: filbert at June 12, 2018 11:59 AM (953wK)

388 309 . . . Erickson is out there screaming that if Obama had done this we would be as outraged as they are. Same with Shapiro. The rest of them are in various stages of meltdown. They simply can't believe this continues to happen to them.
Posted by: Fortunato
________

The difference these lightweights don't get is that any outrage directed at Obama for meeting with Whoa Fat would have been based on our rational fear that Obama would have been selling the USA down the river for a deal, any deal to stroke his messianic ego.

Does Trump have a big ego? Yup. But he doesn't hate our country. That's the difference.

Posted by: Furious George at June 12, 2018 11:59 AM (9vQJW)

389 How many celebs hung themselves this morning?

Horses are hung. People are hanged.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 12, 2018 11:59 AM (FsRTQ)

390 >> told them I've attended well over 2 dozen book tour events in my life and NEVER paid a dime.


No kidding!
Leave it to the Clintons to monetize a book tour. Tells you how greedy - and desperate - they are. Notice Patterson, who is in no need for money, went along with it.

IIRC, Lena Dunham did something similar, but she gave the proceeds to Planned Parenthood (naturally).

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 11:59 AM (W+vEI)

391 I told him you may not want this. You may want to do a smaller version of this. You may want to do a smaller version. You may not want that with the trains and everything. Super everything. Maybe you won't want that. It will be up to them. It will be up to them and up to the people. They may not want that. I can understand that, too.

Posted by: Old Man With Onion on His Belt at June 12, 2018 11:59 AM (VvjLK)

392 Rodman could end up US Ambassador to N Korea.

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I love it. I hope the Democrats block it too. Sadly, I'm sure it would be the GOP.

Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 11:59 AM (sX1BW)

393 Heh. The last time I had a vehicle broken into, all that was lost was the cheese and peanut butter crackers kept in the middle island for when dad's blood sugar got low. Left the satellite radio, the fishing gear, the working tools...wasn't sure whether to feel violated or insulted...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at June 12, 2018 11:53 AM (AM1GF)


Used to keep my old beater Volvo parked out on the driveway, unlocked. Didn't want thieves to cause damage by smashing the glass to get in. I made sure there was absolutely nothing of value in it. I did this for about 3 years. Couple of times, when I started it up in the morning, I could tell someone had been inside, rummaging around. So, they didn't get anything, nor did they cause any damage, so I considered that a win.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 12, 2018 12:00 PM (wHMIo)

394 Posted by: BackwardsBoy

NASCAR really has killed itself with all the rule changes and point system who cares anymore. I use to watch it every weekend and go once or twice a year. Haven't watched a race in 5 or 6 years now.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 12:00 PM (Bdeb0)

395 "They said you was hung."

"And they was right!"

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 12:00 PM (oZ6kz)

396 Do you remember the name? I love going up the Butt whenever I can.

- - -

I do not. All remember was it was deep dish style and if you could eat the whole thing it was free.
I could eat two pieces and not die.
The sizes were listed in pounds of toppings, rather than diameter.
Posted by: Roland THTG at June 12, 2018 11:57 AM (xBSm0)


This.

Is.

Hilarious.

(Context is everything, is it not?)

Posted by: filbert at June 12, 2018 12:00 PM (953wK)

397 The sizes were listed in pounds of toppings, rather than diameter.

*************

Wooo, sounds like my kind of place.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 12:00 PM (+dsLj)

398 I'm okay with governmental diversity. One thing that the world shows--and Watters' World on-the-street-interviews show--a good portion of the people are not cut out for a representative republic.

Reagan's plans were the best one. Get into the country, show them how other people live and release the natural power of coveting.

Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2018 12:00 PM (vDqXW)

399 iirc Silverware gained popularity when stainless steel was not an option.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 12, 2018 12:00 PM (8n0ul)

400 Airforce One with Nixon on board was a big deal back then when it landed in China. We didn't have the hostile press (at least not with the internet, etc.) telling use what they hate about it. It was as big a moment as yesterday, and I watched every minute of it. Most press people and most others weren't even born yet, and know little about it.

Posted by: colin at June 12, 2018 12:00 PM (OqpWN)

401 Screw the celebs, I hope it flat lines McCain.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 11:57 AM (r9UYA)
..............

I'm sure he has quite a headache.

Posted by: wth at June 12, 2018 12:01 PM (HgMAr)

402 If Kim has any sense left, he may realize that instead of going down as just another POS dictator in a long line of failed tyrants, he could go down as the man who helped unify Korea and bring NK into a modern age of peace and prosperity.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 11:58 AM (+dsLj)


Yes, that's the pitch.

You want to be somebody? Be somebody. Put down the nukes, make North Korea a real paradise.

The video that they showed had a tagline "DESTINY PICTURES PRESENTS"

Destiny. Quite sure that was not chosen at random.

Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 12:01 PM (Z5y53)

403 >>The sizes were listed in pounds of toppings, rather than diameter.



Beau Jo's pizza

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 12:01 PM (W+vEI)

404 I told them I've attended well over 2 dozen book tour events in my life and NEVER paid a dime. They got defensive and explained it was an opportunity to see and hear an ex-president.


I've already paid and am still paying for that worthless fuck. Why would I want to pay moar?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 12:01 PM (5RITs)

405 Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 12, 2018 11:59 AM (pw+jk)

Hahaha... there's no such thing as "winning" an argument against the girl you're with.

At best you can just get her to shut up about it for a little while.

And if she does miraculously adopt your point of view, it's she who was right all along, and you who are the one being combative.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 12:01 PM (AURKQ)

406 Stainless Steel is a marketing term.

Proper nomenclature is CRES, Corrosion Resistant Steel which it is.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 12, 2018 12:01 PM (pw+jk)

407 Oh Erickson is out there screaming that if Obama had done this we would be as outraged as they are


And if Bush had done this he would be claiming it is the greatest foreign policy success of the last 20 years.

Posted by: buzzion at June 12, 2018 12:01 PM (cAnNx)

408 . Left the satellite radio, the fishing gear, the working tools...wasn't sure whether to feel violated or insulted...


I would go with insulted, and also guess that this didn't happen in NYC in the 80s. Back then anything not riveted down got stolen, car radios had removable faceplates, you couldn't turn your back on a warm half of a Coke.

So we had a little Civic hatchback and I kept toys in the back. Fishing gear, tennis racquet, whatevs, and I threw the rattiest nastiest most disgusting towel over all the lot of it so that no one would think there was anything to break in over.

And then one night the wife said to herself, she said, that's a nasty looking towel. I'm going to take it inside and wash it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 12:02 PM (fuK7c)

409 How much do you figure it must burn the washed up has-been hag Madonna, to see her ex-boyfriend snatching above-the-fold, page A1 headlines in a freakin' MAGA hat?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 12:02 PM (AzW6q)

410 I wouldn't want to invade it, but Putin for all his evil more or less signals Russia's state of decline. His platform from day one has been MRGA. (Sure it's inelegant due to shortage of consonants, but that works for the Russkies.)

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 12, 2018 12:02 PM (/8r1I)

411 "Crusty butt" and thoughtful strategic analysis. This is why I love the Horde.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at June 12, 2018 12:02 PM (RD7QR)

412 Instead of rule changes for safety purposes, they should have rule changes to create *more* crashes. I mean, not fatal ones, but crashes are exciting.

You wouldn't want a rule change in baseball that led to more routine ground balls to first base, would you? Give the people something exciting!

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 12:02 PM (oZ6kz)

413 336 I think China didn't care about NK going nuclear. If they did, the Pakistani connection would have been a non-starter. What China REALLY doesn't want is a nuclear Japan and a nuclear SK and a nuclear Taiwan. India already has the bomb and that's a big enough threat.
Posted by: mrp at June 12, 2018 11:50 AM (Pqytn)


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I think that's what the Chinese thought going in: let the Norks pursue a nuclear program as a tool push their neighbors around. Maybe they thought they could keep it under control via their plants inside the government. Fast forward to that mountain collapsing on their border and the NKs getting damn close to functional ICBMs and that calculus starts getting damn expensive for China. How expensive? Well imagine...

1. A nuclear SK and a Japan (supposedly "3 turns of a torque wrench" from going nuclear right now)

2. An openly nuclear Taiwan (i've read some places that they do have nukes or are as close to production as the Japanese). How do you say "Samson Option" in Mandarin?

3. A crazy racist hermit state on your border with nukes who you clearly don't have as much control over as you thought who keeps antagonizing a country you rely on to keep your export focused economy afloat.

Posted by: Jackal at June 12, 2018 12:03 PM (Ng3pN)

414 His platform from day one has been MRGA.

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Methinks his real platform is Make Putin Powerful and Rich.

Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 12:03 PM (sX1BW)

415 Could be China would like N Korea's economy to westernize so China can co-opt it, ala Hong Kong.

Posted by: davidt at June 12, 2018 12:03 PM (TKQ/l)

416 NASCAR really has killed itself with all the rule changes and point system who cares anymore. I use to watch it every weekend and go once or twice a year. Haven't watched a race in 5 or 6 years now.
Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 12:00 PM (Bdeb0)


So you're saying NASCAR was Goodelled?

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 12:03 PM (+lOpA)

417 How much do you figure it must burn the washed up has-been hag Madonna, to see her ex-boyfriend snatching above-the-fold, page A1 headlines in a freakin' MAGA hat?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 12:02 PM (AzW6q)

No more blowjobs for anyone.

Posted by: Madonna at June 12, 2018 12:04 PM (HgMAr)

418 The NORK army is , no doubt, in bad shape physically. The last defector was among the more visible to the West units, and he was suffering badly. If you look at one of their parades, pay attention to the soldiers marching as they are shown in profile. They look emaciated, their uniforms hanging on their frames.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 12, 2018 12:04 PM (xzqr4)

419 I'd have used Yakety Sax, myself.

Posted by: George LeS at June 12, 2018 12:04 PM (59GGI)

420 The safe bet is to blame the Germans.
Posted by: mrp at June 12, 2018 11:58 AM (Pqytn)


Absolutely; they allowed Lenin to pass through their country in the middle of a fucking world war to commandeer the Revolution in Petrograd. Otherwise he'd have been stuck in Zurich away from the action and things would've surely gone differently without that malignant pile of shit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 12, 2018 12:04 PM (y7DUB)

421 Erickson and I forgot his name* should run together. Two votes in the bank.

* the boat guy

Posted by: Quint at June 12, 2018 12:05 PM (n13/j)

422 Trump shows Kim the thumb he'll use to press the big red button.

https://tinyurl.com/yc3dhlzv

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 12, 2018 12:05 PM (FsRTQ)

423 Instead of rule changes for safety purposes, they should have rule changes to create *more* crashes. I mean, not fatal ones, but crashes are exciting.

You wouldn't want a rule change in baseball that led to more routine ground balls to first base, would you? Give the people something exciting!

------------

This is what happens when you let sports media dictate what should be done.

You eliminate the collision at home plate - one of the most exciting plays in baseball - because Buster Posney got hurt and the liberal media found it unnecessary.

Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 12:05 PM (sX1BW)

424
You wouldn't want a rule change in baseball that led to more routine ground balls to first base, would you? Give the people something exciting!

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 12:02 PM (oZ6kz)


Rountine grounders to first can be exciting.

Posted by: Bill Buckner at June 12, 2018 12:05 PM (10vO4)

425 We still would have gotten Putin or someone like him, imho. Russia is still Russia.



There was a reason why Yeltsin drank so much. He knew his people.

Posted by: filbert at June 12, 2018 11:53 AM (953wK)

Russia is not the USSR. Russia is not Communist. Russia is a rival now, not a mortal enemy.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 12:05 PM (UBzPO)

426 381 Stainless steel. Twice as shiny with none of the hassle.

Indeed. Stands up to abrasion, easier to clean, and higher tensile strength.

*shrugs*
Posted by: Anon a mouse at June 12, 2018 11:20 AM (7LY+6)

Stainless steel is a lot more practical. But its color has a bluish cast to it. Silver is more white in color.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 12, 2018 11:58 AM



Gawd...Metallurgists.


What do you do with a dead metallurgist?


...Barium!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 12, 2018 12:05 PM (0tfLf)

427 390 >> told them I've attended well over 2 dozen book tour events in my life and NEVER paid a dime.
__

IIRC, Lena Dunham did something similar, but she gave the proceeds to Planned Parenthood (naturally).
Posted by: Lizzy
_________

People who attended Dunham's book signing were told if they didn't pay, then she would take her clothes off.

Posted by: Furious George at June 12, 2018 12:06 PM (9vQJW)

428 Horses are hung. People are hanged.


Horses sweat. Men perspire. Ladies glow.

Posted by: Stuff My Grandmother Said at June 12, 2018 12:06 PM (fuK7c)

429 Ain't that the truth. I watched the entire Stalin :
Apocalypse documentary. The Russian Civil War to the formation of the
USSR has to be the most convoluted political event in history.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 12, 2018 11:56 AM (c6UIl)

=============================
The safe bet is to blame the Germans.
Posted by: mrp at June 12, 2018 11:58 AM (Pqytn)

The Bolsheviks were virtually in cahoots with the Germans. If there had been any kind of order in Russia before the Bolshies took complete control, Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin would have been hung as traitors.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 12, 2018 12:06 PM (y8Foj)

430 So you're saying NASCAR was Goodelled?

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There is a lot of similiarities there. For one, both became over-saturated.

Posted by: SH at June 12, 2018 12:06 PM (sX1BW)

431 Got caught up in the metallurgy lesson above and missed a few hundred posts. So what happened?

Posted by: auscolpyr at June 12, 2018 12:06 PM (suO/a)

432 They told me there would be no metallurgy on this thread.

I prepared for alchemy.

Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2018 12:07 PM (vDqXW)

433 Up the Butt: The Life Story of Hope Solo.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 12:07 PM (+l4K5)

434 I have no idea what Putin wants.

Mystery enigma some assembly....

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 12:07 PM (+lOpA)

435 411 "Crusty butt" and thoughtful strategic analysis. This is why I love the Horde.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at June 12, 2018 12:02 PM (RD7QR)


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Deep thoughts, and butt-stuff.

Posted by: reason at June 12, 2018 12:07 PM (q/kmn)

436 "Rountine grounders to first can be exciting.

Posted by: Bill Buckner at June 12, 2018 12:05 PM (10vO4) "

Well played, though I've have socked that as "Mookie Wilson."

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at June 12, 2018 12:07 PM (oZ6kz)

437 Never thought I'd hear the Chimp repeat Norah O'Donnel's talking points

We've had this discussion before. Do we deal with brutal dictators or do we depose them and let democracy bloom?

Posted by: notsothoreau at June 12, 2018 12:07 PM (JKNZq)

438 I'm all for justice and there's no doubt that Kim should at a minimum hang for his part in the atrocities that are commonplace in NK, but on the other hand if allowing him an escape hatch finally ends those atrocities, while also protecting American interests...

Posted by: Alskari at June 12, 2018 12:07 PM (tdVTp)

439 I prepared for alchemy.
Posted by: Axeman

Ahhh, the magic of this thread.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 12:08 PM (Bdeb0)

440

Gainesville is just up the road a ways. I'd love to go to the Gatornationals, but I'm not sure I'd have the energy to go.


Being 29 isn't all it's cracked up to be.

NASCAR has managed to homogenize all the fun out of itself lately. Even drag boat racing is more fun now and I don't know anybody in it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 12, 2018 12:09 PM (HaL55)

441 If Iron Man and Silver Surfer teamed up they would be...



wait for it....



wait for it.....



you know it's coming......



Alloys!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 12, 2018 12:09 PM (0tfLf)

442 Alchemy is to chemistry what Samantha Bee is to comedy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 12, 2018 12:09 PM (FsRTQ)

443 Oh Erickson is out there screaming that if Obama had done this we would be as outraged as they are


And if Bush had done this he would be claiming it is the greatest foreign policy success of the last 20 years.
Posted by: buzzion at June 12, 2018 12:01 PM (cAnNx)

It comes own to no one wanting to give credit to Trump for ANYTHING. So they conjure up "what would have happened" scenarios for Obama--who never would have gotten it done anyway.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 12, 2018 12:09 PM (y8Foj)

444 Rountine grounders to first can be exciting.
Posted by: Bill Buckner at June 12, 2018 12:05 PM (10vO4)

Look on the bright side, Bill. Can I can you Bill? If it wasn't for your error, you wouldn't be remembered outside of Beantown and Gen X baseball card collectors.

Posted by: auscolpyr at June 12, 2018 12:09 PM (suO/a)

445 monel

Posted by: Braenyard at June 12, 2018 12:10 PM (8n0ul)

446 I am thinking maybe we need to add "We're America, Bitch" to our coinage.

Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 12:10 PM (Z5y53)

447 >>We've had this discussion before. Do we deal with brutal dictators or do we depose them and let democracy bloom?

Yes.

One size does not fit all.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2018 12:10 PM (/tuJf)

448 It comes own to no one wanting to give credit to Trump for ANYTHING. So they conjure up "what would have happened" scenarios for Obama--who never would have gotten it done anyway.
Posted by: JoeF

Can't i just eat my waffle?

Posted by: Barack Obama at June 12, 2018 12:10 PM (FZYNt)

449 Gawd...Metallurgists.
--

I was tempted to copy and paste the geekspeak about Martensite that I found on Bing.

Pondered and deleted thinking no one would see the humor in it. Likewise, the geekspeak about carbon being a 'metalloid'.

You should thank me.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 12, 2018 12:10 PM (roQNm)

450 I am so galvanized by these alliuterations

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 12, 2018 12:10 PM (+l4K5)

451 Gawd...Metallurgists.


What do you do with a dead metallurgist?


...Barium!


Posted by: Diogenes at June 12, 2018 12:05 PM (0tfLf)

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I wanted to be a metallurgist, but I just couldn't make the grades.

Posted by: reason at June 12, 2018 12:10 PM (q/kmn)

452 NASCAR has managed to homogenize all the fun out of itself lately. Even drag boat racing is more fun now and I don't know anybody in it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy

Yep, it's become very much cookie cutter in it's approach.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 12:10 PM (Bdeb0)

453 Inconel. FTW.

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 12, 2018 12:11 PM (xBSm0)

454 I know words. I have the best words.

Posted by: Old Man With Onion on His Belt at June 12, 2018 12:11 PM (VvjLK)

455 I'm all for justice and there's no doubt that Kim should at a minimum hang for his part in the atrocities that are commonplace in NK, but on the other hand if allowing him an escape hatch finally ends those atrocities, while also protecting American interests...
Posted by: Alskari at June 12, 2018 12:07 PM (tdVTp)

He's a scumbag alright, but it's not the first time we've dealt with scumbags, is it? I mean, Roosevelt (and Churchill) "elevated" Stalin by meeting him in Yalta.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 12, 2018 12:11 PM (y8Foj)

456 Thank Heaven, for little girls...

Posted by: Bobby Dinero at June 12, 2018 12:12 PM (2Mnv1)

457 I did not know that puns were to be found it the industrial arts. Go figure.

Posted by: auscolpyr at June 12, 2018 12:12 PM (suO/a)

458 Went to a place called Big Dam Pizza in WV.

I thought it was just because it was near a big dam.

Well, that pizza is 28 inches across.

It was a big dam pizza.

Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 12:12 PM (Z5y53)

459 420 The safe bet is to blame the Germans.
Posted by: mrp at June 12, 2018 11:58 AM (Pqytn)

Absolutely; they allowed Lenin to pass through their country in the middle of a fucking world war to commandeer the Revolution in Petrograd. Otherwise he'd have been stuck in Zurich away from the action and things would've surely gone differently without that malignant pile of shit.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 12, 2018 12:04 PM (y7DUB)


==============


Take a good look at the results from the Constituient Assembly election of 1917-18 that had been scheduled by Kerensky's Government and which the Bolshies let go through unmolested (they were hoping to win a majority to legittimize their coup). The Mensheviks (Social Democrats, basically, by this point), the Socialist Revolutionaries ( agrarian populists, despite their name) and a smattering of classical liberals won the vast majority of seats. The Bolshies won about one quarter. You're damn right things would have gone better had Lenin been stuck in Zurich.

Posted by: Jackal at June 12, 2018 12:12 PM (Ng3pN)

460

monel

Inconel. That stuff's harder than Superman's kneecap.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 12, 2018 12:12 PM (HaL55)

461 alloy ye mateys!

Posted by: Quint at June 12, 2018 12:13 PM (n13/j)

462 Ok, I've been crawling around the Butt trying to find this deep dish treasure, for any morons who feel like a trip up the Crest I think the pizza place referred to earlier is the Secret Stash.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 12:13 PM (+dsLj)

463 Remember back in 1977 when President Carter announced that US troops would be withdrawn from Korea? Any decade now...

Posted by: RioBravo at June 12, 2018 12:13 PM (5NMZN)

464 If memory serves, the Bob Trigg ultra-light Commando frame was 531 Reynold tubing. Remarkable bit of engineering. 400 or so pound motor cycle, 60 or so HP, and you could twirl the bare frame on two fingers.

If you jigged up the alignment gage on any random four in a row, it would scare the hell out of you. Jump on any one, and it would outhandle anything on the road.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 12, 2018 12:13 PM (H5rtT)

465 They told me there would be no metallurgy on this thread.

I prepared for alchemy.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2018 12:07 PM (vDqXW)
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Embrace the power of "and."

Step 1: Pb
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Au

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 12:14 PM (AzW6q)

466 stainless steel does not kill bacteria so is a bad choice for surgical instruments.

use copper and bronze instead.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 12:14 PM (PuNWi)

467 It was a big dam pizza.

*************

Dam!

Posted by: The Beavers at June 12, 2018 12:14 PM (+dsLj)

468 #413:
1. A nuclear SK and a Japan (supposedly "3 turns of a torque wrench" from going nuclear right now)

=================================
After the first NK missile overflight of the Japanese main islands, back in the 90s, the Japanese government went ballistic, so to speak. One Japanese defense dept. official (I think at the deputy level) was quoted as saying that Japan could produce 200 nuclear devices in a year's time. Considering the buildup in quality and size of the Japanese navy in the last 20 years, plus the installation of a first-class ABM detection and intercept network (X-band radars IIRC), I think NK and China have a lot more on their plate than the US MSM thinks.

Posted by: mrp at June 12, 2018 12:14 PM (Pqytn)

469 Didn't Alchemy take partial credit for planning 911?

Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 12:14 PM (r9UYA)

470 Is that the nose of a time-temperature transformation curve in your pocket, or a you just happy to see me?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 12:14 PM (AURKQ)

471 I did not know that puns were to be found it the industrial arts. Go figure.

Posted by: auscolpyr at June 12, 2018 12:12 PM (suO/a)

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Puns do not discriminate on subject material.

A great pun is its own reword.

Posted by: reason at June 12, 2018 12:15 PM (q/kmn)

472 ***** Friendly Reminder*******

If you have a prayer request for yourself or others and would like it included in tomorrow's prayer list in the Morning Rant. pease submit prayer requests to me by 6:00 P.M. EST tonight at:

FenelonDirection18 (at sign g mail.com)

Thanks for your prayers for our horde "family" and their families and friends.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 12, 2018 12:15 PM (0/+vJ)

473 Step 1: Pb
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Au
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 12:14 PM (AzW6q)


Too ambitious. I'd lower my sights. Get good at turning lead into, say, cheese, first. Move onto gold later on.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 12, 2018 12:15 PM (FsRTQ)

474 428 Horses are hung. People are hanged.


Horses sweat. Men perspire. Ladies glow.
Posted by: Stuff My Grandmother Said at June 12, 2018 12:06 PM (fuK7c)

And some men are hung like a horse.

Posted by: Zombie Milton Berle at June 12, 2018 12:16 PM (SGpFT)

475 Trump greets a brutal dictator with open arms yet treats the Philadelphia Eagles with disdain! Clearly, this shows his disdain for America and it's cherished traditions!

Posted by: ESPN at June 12, 2018 12:16 PM (O5Q3r)

476 He's a scumbag alright, but it's not the first time we've dealt with scumbags, is it? I mean, Roosevelt (and Churchill) "elevated" Stalin by meeting him in Yalta.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 12, 2018 12:11 PM (y8Foj)
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And Stalin killed a *whole* lot more people.

GHWB made deals with the Khmer Rouge!

The press' favorite "analysis" of Trump is that he did something unprecedented--and therefore wrong.

This ain't one of those times.

I guess Iran doesn't count because the wedgie and pantsing of Obama was part of the bargain, or something.

Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2018 12:16 PM (vDqXW)

477 No passing in NASCAR anymore. All about the Aero.

Its become F1 with fenders.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 12, 2018 12:16 PM (xn335)

478 Ben Shapiro hosted Jonah Goldberg to discuss when is nationalism too much nationalism? (hint: anything beyond observing national holidays is too much).

These soyboys really need to go over to the other side already and leave us be.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 12:17 PM (+dsLj)

479 Do we deal with brutal dictators or do we depose them and let democracy bloom?

depose them,by Allah!

Posted by: ISIS in Libya at June 12, 2018 12:17 PM (PuNWi)

480 I've been wondering what your take is on the Ontario election.

Seems like a huge deal and big warning flag for Trudeau.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 12, 2018 11:36 AM (4ErVI)

Well, needless to say, I am very pleased with the result. I don't think the election is a direct rebuke of Trudeau; it's a rebuke of ex-Premier Wynne (a horrible person) and her insane policies.

It's clear that the Trudeau fangrrlz/fanbois were not able to swing the election their way. But Ontario voters are quite capable of voting one way federally, and another provincially.

I am hoping that a swing to the right in Ontario is a friendly omen for a similar swing to the right in Alberta, with an election due next year, and for the country at large. If Doug Ford is able to effect an economic turn-around in Ontario, as Trump has done in the USA, it will be very likely to resonate with voters elsewhere in Canada.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 12, 2018 12:17 PM (WFV7d)

481 Too ambitious. I'd lower my sights. Get good at turning lead into, say, cheese, first. Move onto gold later on.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 12, 2018 12:15 PM (FsRTQ)

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WE ARE LIQUID GOLD!

Posted by: Velveeta at June 12, 2018 12:17 PM (q/kmn)

482 If memory serves, the Bob Trigg ultra-light Commando frame was 531 Reynold tubing


Hmmm. Interesting. I meant bicycle when I said bike.

Raleigh Supercourse ca. 1972. Brits still cared about making things. Has a Carlton Frame Shops badge on it.

Front forks were replaced and have rotted, so I need to take care of that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 12:17 PM (fuK7c)

483 I guess Iran doesn't count because the wedgie and pantsing of Obama was part of the bargain, or something.
Posted by: Axeman at June 12, 2018 12:16 PM (vDqXW)


To be fair, Obama did get something out to the deal. He got a sign taped to his back that says KICK ME in Farsi.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 12, 2018 12:18 PM (FsRTQ)

484 all y'all who suggested that Goldberg and Shapiro 'get a room', I hope you're happy now.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 12:18 PM (PuNWi)

485 475 Trump greets a brutal dictator with open arms yet treats the Philadelphia Eagles with disdain! Clearly, this shows his disdain for America and it's cherished traditions!
Posted by: ESPN

Please, most of us have disdain for the Eagle and Philly in general daily.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 12:18 PM (Bdeb0)

486 Is anybody considering the business possibilities if North Korea actually unites with South Korea and the North Koreans become free?

They'll need utilities, home, clothings food, medicine...

Think of the jobs that will be created and the new wealth that will be in circulation.

It could be an economic bonanza.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at June 12, 2018 12:18 PM (SGpFT)

487 When life gives you lead, make cannonade.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 12:19 PM (AURKQ)

488 >>478
Ben Shapiro hosted Jonah Goldberg to discuss when is nationalism too
much nationalism? (hint: anything beyond observing national holidays is
too much).



These soyboys really need to go over to the other side already and leave us be.

Posted by: Froderick

A Battle Ben is typically left behind for the enemy to take. Then it blows up.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 12:19 PM (r9UYA)

489 I used to discuss nuke with him all the time. He was a great expert. A great brilliant genius. Dr. John Trump. MIT sent me a book on my uncle. We used to talk about nuclear. You talk about a complex subject.

Posted by: Old Man With Onion on His Belt at June 12, 2018 12:19 PM (VvjLK)

490 442
Alchemy is to chemistry what Samantha Bee is to comedy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 12, 2018 12:09 PM (FsRTQ)

Newton invented calculus as an afterthought in his search for alchemy.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 12:19 PM (UBzPO)

491 I am hoping that a swing to the right in Ontario is a friendly omen for a similar swing to the right in Alberta, with an election due next year, and for the country at large. If Doug Ford is able to effect an economic turn-around in Ontario, as Trump has done in the USA, it will be very likely to resonate with voters elsewhere in Canada.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I am hoping that the island that is Saskatchewan as per resisting a carbon tax has support from Ontario and soon from Alberta.

Posted by: Rick in SK at June 12, 2018 12:19 PM (FZYNt)

492 WE ARE LIQUID GOLD!
Posted by: Velveeta at June 12, 2018 12:17 PM (q/kmn)
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Liquid?

Posted by: Your Colon at June 12, 2018 12:19 PM (vDqXW)

493 >>Please, most of us have disdain for the Eagle and Philly in general daily.

Kim is an evil guy but he never booed Santa Claus.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2018 12:20 PM (/tuJf)

494 maybe govs Walker and Snyder can work out a separate deal with Ontario for products that don't travel well to the other, non Tory provinces....

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 12:20 PM (PuNWi)

495 They'll need utilities, home, clothings food, medicine...

Think of the jobs that will be created and the new wealth that will be in circulation.

It could be an economic bonanza.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma


Think more Section 8 & WIC.
Those people have nothing.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 12:20 PM (9uM86)

496 >>It could be an economic bonanza.


Exactly. Imagine Kim in Singapore and thinking about having such development, prosperity in his country.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 12:21 PM (W+vEI)

497

EM VANILLA EXTRACT FOADDY-FI!!!


Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at June 12, 2018 12:21 PM (pYqXv)

498
Damn right. I'm going to need more freezer space for all the fresh meat from those dying from net neutrality.

What?
Posted by: Circa
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In fairness, the secondhand smoke, breast implant, and CO2 poisoning deaths have already stressed the storage facilities.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 12, 2018 12:21 PM (pNih8)

499 Exactly. Imagine Kim in Singapore and thinking about having such development, prosperity in his country.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 12:21 PM (W+vEI)
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We definitely could use some of the slave labor.

Posted by: Tim Cook at June 12, 2018 12:22 PM (vDqXW)

500 Exactly. Imagine Kim in Singapore and thinking about having such development, prosperity in his country.

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I can see Kim doing it. I can also see one of his batshit insane Nork officials poisoning him in his sleep to prevent it from happening.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 12:22 PM (+dsLj)

501 What Samantha Bee is to a mute button.

Posted by: Quint at June 12, 2018 12:22 PM (n13/j)

502 I think NK and China have a lot more on their plate than the US MSM thinks.

Posted by: mrp



Well, certainly in the cupboard.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 12, 2018 12:23 PM (8n0ul)

503 I can see Kim doing it. I can also see one of his batshit insane Nork officials poisoning him in his sleep to prevent it from happening.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 12:22 PM (+dsLj)


US Security guarantees.

Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 12:23 PM (Z5y53)

504 Kim is an evil guy but he never booed Santa Claus.


America is a mobile society and mostly "where are you from" means "where did you go to high school".

We moved to the Philly area when I was ten. Even at that tender age I took one look around and decided never to root for any Philly team ever because the fans were so awful.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 12:23 PM (fuK7c)

505 486 Is anybody considering the business possibilities if North Korea actually unites with South Korea and the North Koreans become free?

They'll need utilities, home, clothings food, medicine...

Think of the jobs that will be created and the new wealth that will be in circulation.

It could be an economic bonanza.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at June 12, 2018 12:18 PM (SGpFT)

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In med school I had a classmate from SK. He said that the big businesses like Hyundai, Samsung, etc (the chaebol) have been planning for such a thing for decades with the SK government.

Posted by: Jackal at June 12, 2018 12:23 PM (Ng3pN)

506 486 It could be an economic bonanza.
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It could more likely be an economic sink for a decade or so, like the reunification of Germany. Or like the USA absorbing northern Mexico. Granted, about a third of northern Mexico is already here, but the economic shift would be vast, and a net loss for at least ten years while things got sorted out to a level we considered "adequate" maybe even "good". Realistically PDRK needs a couple of non-Stalinist decades to improve so that a union with the ROK will be a net benefit.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 12, 2018 12:23 PM (W+kMI)

507 Speaking of Samantha Cee, I don't see ads for her cuntness every commercial break watching reruns of Big Bang Theory or Family Guy on TBS.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 12, 2018 12:24 PM (pw+jk)

508 Exactly. Imagine Kim in Singapore and thinking about having such development, prosperity in his country.

He went to school in Switzerland and I doubt it was at PS-228. He's seen the prosperity of the west before.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 12, 2018 12:24 PM (O5Q3r)

509 I think they are saying now that the alloys in stainless are a little tiny bit antibiotic, but nowhere near as good as zinc or copper. Hospitals are wrong. All the old brass-plated hardware was more sanitary than the new stuff.

The boss, natch, is silver, which may explain something about silver ware.Then you get your pewter aficianados coming in, and the fight is on.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 12, 2018 12:25 PM (H5rtT)

510 Is anybody considering the business possibilities if North Korea
actually unites with South Korea and the North Koreans become free?


Shamwow and Slapchops!

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 12, 2018 12:25 PM (xBSm0)

511 >>510
Is anybody considering the business possibilities if North Korea

actually unites with South Korea and the North Koreans become free?

Shamwow and Slapchops!


Posted by: Roland THTG

Transistor radios and cheap press metal toys.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 12:26 PM (r9UYA)

512 >>He went to school in Switzerland and I doubt it was at PS-228. He's seen the prosperity of the west before.


Certainly. And now that he's older and still living in a shithole country, with Trump offering him a path to converting it into something much better?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 12, 2018 12:26 PM (W+vEI)

513 Think more Section 8 & WIC.
Those people have nothing.

Posted by: rickb223
__________

They could become miners for rare earth minerals sold to the US. In return they could afford to purchase food, clothing, and shelter.

We have contractors to show them how.

The biggest problem is Kim learning how to deal with it.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 12, 2018 12:27 PM (8n0ul)

514
Nano fiber cleaning cloths is the new hotness.
As seen on instapundit.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 12, 2018 12:28 PM (roQNm)

515 Re: Reunification, I was thinking about comparing it to other cases where a basket-case got reunified with its successful counterpart...

And then realized how depressing it is that there are multiple cases of that happening in history.

When will these bastards learn that Marxist-derived governments ALWAYS fail?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 12:28 PM (AURKQ)

516 These soyboys really need to go over to the other side already and leave us be.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 12:17 PM (+dsLj)
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Ya know... I've tried to defend Shapiro as a rational, principled (and wrong) opponent of Trump.

But I'm getting sick of it. He's really making it tough.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 12:28 PM (AzW6q)

517 SO WHEN WILL WE BE TAKING ALL HIS OIL!!!!!

Posted by: tu3031 at June 12, 2018 12:28 PM (O5Q3r)

518 Is anybody considering the business possibilities if North Korea actually unites with South Korea and the North Koreans become free?

If you think the agribusiness lobby isn't drooling over the possibilities, you ain't thinking...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at June 12, 2018 12:29 PM (AM1GF)

519 514 he just linked to Ace, that is cool.

Posted by: Quint at June 12, 2018 12:29 PM (n13/j)

520

Shamwow and Slapchops!


Popiel Pocket Fishermans as far as the eye can see, along with that spray sealer stuff, Clappers, Enzyte and all those other late-night TV ads thingys.

Operators are standing by!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 12, 2018 12:30 PM (HaL55)

521
Is anybody considering the business possibilities if North Korea
actually unites with South Korea and the North Koreans become free?

Shamwow and Slapchops!
Posted by: Roland THTG
Transistor radios and cheap press metal toys.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 12:26 PM (r9UYA)


Plastic sporks would blow their minds.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 12, 2018 12:30 PM (10vO4)

522 I thought their soil was made of rock.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 12, 2018 12:30 PM (8n0ul)

523 475 Trump greets a brutal dictator with open arms yet treats the Philadelphia Eagles with disdain! Clearly, this shows his disdain for America and it's cherished traditions!
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Philadelphia fans of whatever team clearly show disdain for America and its cherished tradition of good sportsmanship. I don't know what it is about Pennsylvania, but Philadelphia and Pittsburgh fans delight in being real hooligans. And then turning into real crybabies when their teams get righteously pummeled.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 12, 2018 12:30 PM (W+kMI)

524 Things can happen very rapidly - at Trump speed! - in Korea.

Germany can be a model - went from the Cold War being over to the wall coming down to reunification in, what, 2 years?

The US taxpayer underwrote the reunification of Germany. I suspect we would do the same for Korea. And it would be worth it, except I think that Trump would insist we get some of the gouge on the reunification, to make it even MORE worth it.

But I expect the following things to happen in the next 12 months:

An armistice signed on the Korean War.

Opening of the gates at DMZ.

Massive minefield clearing ops.




Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 12:30 PM (Z5y53)

525 If you think the agribusiness lobby isn't drooling over the possibilities, you ain't thinking...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at June 12, 2018 12:29 PM (AM1GF)
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Oh I'm sure... ADM and Cargill are probably like Pavlov's dogs at the thought of more price-supported food aid transfer payments to the fourth world via USAID.

I don't like it though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 12:30 PM (AzW6q)

526 Plastic sporks would blow their minds.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic

much better to eat dirt with

Posted by: Rick in SK at June 12, 2018 12:31 PM (FZYNt)

527 Shapiro never had principles. He is a goniff.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 12:31 PM (PuNWi)

528 That whoa fat is outside of his miserable little shithole of a country and talking face to face is a big win in my book. North shitastan is beyond help at this point. The best we could hope for is to de-fang the beast.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at June 12, 2018 12:31 PM (0OmEj)

529 America is a mobile society and mostly "where are you from" means "where did you go to high school".


The Rootless Disease. Since we were all raised as little baby collectivists, we do not criticize ourselves for living like little baby collectivists. Because, big strong conservative alphas. And yet there we rambled, gagging down the big internationalist corporate bullshit about moving around for your career being so sexy and all. We sold our birthright, and this pottage is shitty.
But not me though! It's all about yuuge success with me! The rest of you, though..."went away for college." And send a card on Father's Day.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 12, 2018 12:31 PM (H5rtT)

530 The black sand turned out to be lead and was commercially more valuable than the gold deposits.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse

Actually, the black sand was silver carbonate.

Leadville (misnamed) was a huge silver mine area, that collapsed in value at the turn of the 20th century because the government stopped the free coinage of silver.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at June 12, 2018 12:32 PM (vcOmj)

531 Operators are standing by!


That's a funny word, operator. It meant girls who knew how to operate a telephone.

Can you help me place this call? Seems that the number on the matchbook is old and faded.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 12:32 PM (fuK7c)

532 I actually think Goldberg does have principles but through a combination of sloth, cowardice, and envy has abandoned them.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 12:32 PM (PuNWi)

533 Here's catnip for hardcore engineering materials folks: MP35N.

Posted by: Gref at June 12, 2018 12:33 PM (GHtHw)

534 Shapiro never had principles. He is a goniff.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 12:31 PM (PuNWi)
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I'm coming around to that now. I had hope for the guy... he seemed willing at first to give credit where it was due, and opposition where he thought it was proper.

But, sadly, he appears to be just another #NT trough-slopping cruise catamite.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 12:33 PM (AzW6q)

535 Massive minefield clearing ops.

DO NOT SKIP THIS STEP

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 12, 2018 12:34 PM (H5rtT)

536 We need to stop thinking of NoKo as a sovereign state and more as a satellite of China. Considering China's recent push to extend it's power base(man made islands etc.) does it seem possible that not only would China give up the goal of removing a democratic SoKo, but would take a step back by losing control of the North? The wild card is the South's leader. He's too sympathetic to the North. China may be trying to drive a wedge between the US and the South. Talks that fail because Trump won't use Wimpy Diplomacy( I'll gladly pay you Tuesday, for a hamburger today.) could do this. Also, China knows it can count on our media to slam Trump if talks fail, thus weakening him. This is China's game, we're just a player.

Posted by: beck at June 12, 2018 12:34 PM (CcIgv)

537 >>>When will these bastards learn that Marxist-derived governments ALWAYS fail?<<<
Take a hike, eh?

Posted by: Fidel Trudeau of the Great White North at June 12, 2018 12:34 PM (2Mnv1)

538 535 Massive minefield clearing ops.

DO NOT SKIP THIS STEP

Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 12, 2018 12:34 PM (H5rtT)



Also, REPEAT THIS STEP.

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 12:36 PM (+lOpA)

539
Is anybody considering the business possibilities if North Korea actually unites with South Korea and the North Koreans become free?
They'll need utilities, home, clothings food, medicine...


Where will the North Koreans get all the money to buy that stuff?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 12, 2018 12:36 PM (IqV8l)

540 Actually, the black sand was silver carbonate.
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I got my information from a little museum in Leadville the day I motored through. Perhaps I didn't read/remember all the information on display. It was thirty years ago.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 12, 2018 12:37 PM (roQNm)

541 >>Germany can be a model - went from the Cold War being over to the wall coming down to reunification in, what, 2 years?

East Germany is not exactly a model of rehabilitation. More like a cautionary tale.

For the most part German wealth did not flow to the east. What has happened instead is that the youth of East Germany has fled to the west leaving a population that is old and not able to adapt.

The problem with these closed totalitarian societies is that the people are so isolated from the rest of the world and so used to being told how to do everything freedom is not always the immediate blessing to the entire population it is imagined to be.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 12, 2018 12:37 PM (/tuJf)

542 Why would China want to take over a shithole like NK?

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 12:37 PM (+lOpA)

543 Where will the North Koreans get all the money to buy that stuff?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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Mining rare earth minerals which they sell to US.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 12, 2018 12:38 PM (8n0ul)

544 Clintons are eagerly anticipating all the 'reconstruction aid' and 'charity appeal ' monies that will be made available to their 'Global Initiative'.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at June 12, 2018 12:38 PM (5fkET)

545 Yes. His music taste is SO BAD, the thieves brought it back.

I think that actually only put salt in the wound.

OK, that there is hilarious.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:21 AM (fuK7c)






I had a similar thing happens to me. I've told Teh Horde about this before.

When I was in college, I parked in town and left my textbooks and such in the back seat. Came back and the backpack was gone. About $300 of books gone, including a copy of Cornel Wests stupid little book, Race Matters (hey, it was assigned reading).

A week later, I parked on the same block, and the thief returned West's book, left it on the passenger seat.

With extensive notes in the margins. Fucker actually READ the book.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 12, 2018 12:38 PM (NmXoG)

546 Where will the North Koreans get all the money to buy that stuff?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 12, 2018 12:36 PM


I'm told that medical testing pays well

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 12, 2018 12:38 PM (ZQfW9)

547 Where will the North Koreans get all the money to buy that stuff?


I'm going to go with "wealth creation is not zero sum for $1,000, Alex".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 12:38 PM (fuK7c)

548 Where will the North Koreans get all the money to buy that stuff?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 12, 2018 12:36 PM (IqV8l)


First, there will be shoplifting, of course.

Then a massive influx of skintrade business until the exchange rates equalize.

Then Hyundai will buy the tank factories and build minivans out the wazoo on the cheap....


Just following the German reunification model.

Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2018 12:39 PM (Z5y53)

549 Where will the North Koreans get all the money to buy that stuff?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

Chaturbate

Posted by: Rick in SK at June 12, 2018 12:39 PM (FZYNt)

550 Posted by: Fidel Trudeau of the Great White North at June 12, 2018 12:34 PM (2Mnv1)

Every time you open your mouth to speak, Justine, it reminds me that there's some poor moose in outer Yellowknife that isn't getting fellated.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 12:39 PM (AURKQ)

551 Not saying reunification was not a net good, I think it was. But we got the anti-American Schroeder and Merkel since reuiification. There are costs.

Posted by: Quint at June 12, 2018 12:39 PM (n13/j)

552 You've got to understand what we're negotiating right now is a trade deal.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 12, 2018 12:40 PM (8n0ul)

553 Perhaps Rodman could convince the NBA and the NFL to relocate to Pyongyang. That would be some world class winning.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 12, 2018 12:40 PM (r9UYA)

554 Watch me cut this boat in half!
Hooo doggie!

Posted by: Flex Tape guy at June 12, 2018 12:40 PM (HgMAr)

555 Where will the North Koreans get all the money to buy that stuff?


They can march like banshees. Yeah, I don't know.

Posted by: eleven at June 12, 2018 12:41 PM (+lOpA)

556 O.T. just read an article claiming that an Asteroid "Gold Rush" could "could earn everyone on Earth 75 billion". Are these people so ill-educated on how economics works? Don't they realize that if there is suddenly a large supply of something, without a matching increase in demand, the price of that thing will go down, way down? Not to mention that profit will not be doled out directly to every man, woman, child, transgender, etc. Idiots. Let's also say, for the sake of argument that 75 billion goes to each person; what would the cost of food and other necessities now be? That's right, boys and girls, the value of currency would suffer. Everything would be re-priced based on the supply of currency versus the scarcity of necessities. I don't know why I even take time reading such garbage.

Posted by: jim at June 12, 2018 12:41 PM (gjGvH)

557
Germany can be a model - went from the Cold War being over to the wall coming down to reunification in, what, 2 years?

East Germany is not exactly a model of rehabilitation. More like a cautionary tale.


I think Vietnam would be a better example.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 12, 2018 12:41 PM (10vO4)

558 Ya know... I've tried to defend Shapiro as a rational, principled (and wrong) opponent of Trump.

But I'm getting sick of it. He's really making it tough

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Shapiro isnt worth it, anytime you see him apparently giving some credit to Trump in a grudging way, he then immediately retweets a fake news item bashing Trump like its straight up fact. His actions are completely inconsistent and irrational, pointlessly attacking our side and allies like Candace Owens over the stupidest pettiest things, and then attempting to balance that with an occasional conservative talking point. We dont need his ilk poisoning our well.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at June 12, 2018 12:41 PM (+dsLj)

559 Where will the North Koreans get all the money to buy that stuff?
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It's the labor theory of value. It was how China got it's first real great leap forward.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 12, 2018 12:41 PM (roQNm)

560 also I already noted re East Germany yesterday evening here that most of East Germany is, in fact, a holdover from old Prussia. even the genetics are Balto Slavic. totally different way of thinking, more like the Balkans than like western Europe.

HBDchick would , if here, say something about the Hajnal Line.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at June 12, 2018 12:41 PM (PuNWi)

561 Kohler is introducing a molybdenum allowed sink that never rusts.

They're calling it "the unbrownable moly sink."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 12:41 PM (AzW6q)

562 I miss Helmut Kohl.

Posted by: Quint at June 12, 2018 12:41 PM (n13/j)

563 Third conviction nets the lucky winner a 9 mm round to the base of the skull.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 12, 2018 11:46 AM


Here we go again with that metric stuff. If G*d had intended for Man to use the metric system, Jesus would have only had 10 apostles.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 12, 2018 12:41 PM (ctuyM)

564 Where will the North Koreans get all the money to buy that stuff?


I'm going to go with "wealth creation is not zero sum for $1,000, Alex".

Posted by: Bandersnatch


But how will they make that wealth? Local resources are probably overexploited. Labor force is underfed and undereducated. Infrastructure, hahaha so funny. Low tech.

Reunification and three generations as basket case wards of the South would be the best case scenario.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at June 12, 2018 12:42 PM (AM1GF)

565 Where will the North Koreans get all the money to buy that stuff?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
.........

Maybe Kim could start a Go Fund Me site.

Posted by: wth at June 12, 2018 12:42 PM (HgMAr)

566 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 12:41 PM (AzW6q)

Don't sock the regulars, Muldoon.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 12:42 PM (AURKQ)

567 NOOD

Posted by: jim at June 12, 2018 12:43 PM (gjGvH)

568 358 There can not be an aftermarket for my music collection. There's nobody who will pay top dollar for oh, some Beethoven, a lot of Rolling Stones, some Iggy Pop, Robert Johnson, and some Steeleye Span.

It's the most annoying thievery experience of my life.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 12, 2018 11:09 AM (fuK7c)

And you know why thieves steal your stuff? 99% of the time it's to get a few dollars in pocket to buy drugs. They ain't stealing your shit to put their kids through college.

I would be totally in favor of a three-strikes law for burglary. Third conviction nets the lucky winner a 9 mm round to the base of the skull.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Heh. The last time I had a vehicle broken into, all that was lost was the cheese and peanut butter crackers kept in the middle island for when dad's blood sugar got low. Left the satellite radio, the fishing gear, the working tools...wasn't sure whether to feel violated or insulted...
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I have had a lifetime of driving cars that for the most part no thief would admit to breaking into or stealing from, lest they be laughed out of their gang in derision. My current car, a '03 Ford Focus, has about 30 CDs, a detachable radio/CD player, a walking stick, a golf umbrella, and three books in plain view. No one has even tried to jimmy the lock.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 12, 2018 12:43 PM (W+kMI)

569 Russia is not the USSR. Russia is not Communist. Russia is a rival now, not a mortal enemy.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 12:05 PM (UBzPO)


The USSR was the Russian Empire with a more pompous, Marxist name.

Russia always looks out for Russia, mainly because throughout its long, sorry history, from the Golden Horde to the Nazis, nobody else has ever really looked out for them.

Russian paranoia is very, very, very real. One of its manifestations was the USSR.

Posted by: filbert at June 12, 2018 12:43 PM (953wK)

570 Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 12:42 PM (AURKQ)
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No , it was really me, dude.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 12:44 PM (AzW6q)

571
539 Where will the North Koreans get all the money to buy that stuff?

well, they are well known for making the best counterfeit hundred dollar bills in the world...

Posted by: Anachronda at June 12, 2018 12:44 PM (xGZ+b)

572 No , it was really me, dude.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 12:44 PM (AzW6q)

I know, just wanted to compliment you indirectly by comparing you to the resident master of punnery.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 12:44 PM (AURKQ)

573 557 Germany can be a model - went from the Cold War being over to the wall coming down to reunification in, what, 2 years?

East Germany is not exactly a model of rehabilitation. More like a cautionary tale.


I think Vietnam would be a better example.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 12, 2018 12:41 PM



In 1988-90, the one country with far more observers in place than any other to watch the wall come down was South Korea. They started planning back then on what to do, how to do it, and what to avoid.
granted, Korea is not Germany, but they will work it out in their way.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 12, 2018 12:46 PM (0tfLf)

574 Life hack:
Fill quart vac bags with 1lb ground beef.
Use rolling pin.
Roll flat about 1/2" thick.
Vac pack.
Stacks easier. Thaws faster.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 12, 2018 11:12 AM


Use a rod to divide into 9 square patties. TaDa! Wendy burgers.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 12, 2018 12:47 PM (yQpMk)

575 Do not mess with ROK Marines. Ask the North Vietnamese.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 12, 2018 11:07 AM (Boy/L)

True story. During Exercise Key Resolve 2008, Marines of III MEF in Okinawa were combined with the ROKMC at their Headquarters. The Koreans were about to open their Marine Corps Museum and offered a few of us an opportunity to see the display before its official opening.One of my buddies who worked in the G3 (Operations Section) was a long time Active Reservist, who continued to sign 2 year contracts long after most of his peers had finally retired. But Blair continued on, Blair was the last enlisted Marine in uniform that had served in Vietnam, and was quite familiar with the "Blue Dragon Battalion" of the 2nd ROK Marine Division. Our translator, a young mostly American, but serving his Korean military obligation heard this and brought this tidbit to the attention of the museum director.
Long story short, Blair and some of the Korean Marines who served in Vietnam took a photograph which is displayed in the Korean Marine Museum.

Korean Marines are some of the finest military personnel I have ever worked with, and still talk to a lot of my friends from there all the time. Waiting to hear their opinions on the Trump-Kim summit.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at June 12, 2018 12:48 PM (DxWUs)

576 I know, just wanted to compliment you indirectly by comparing you to the resident master of punnery.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 12:44 PM (AURKQ)
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Ha. Thanks!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 12, 2018 12:48 PM (AzW6q)

577 I have had a lifetime of driving cars that for the most part no thief would admit to breaking into or stealing from, lest they be laughed out of their gang in derision. My current car, a '03 Ford Focus, has about 30 CDs, a detachable radio/CD player, a walking stick, a golf umbrella, and three books in plain view. No one has even tried to jimmy the lock.

Posted by: exdem13
****************


There's no profit in driving a new shiny vehicle.

One can drive that beater looking car without a worry. No dings in the parking lot. Change lanes easier too.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 12, 2018 12:49 PM (8n0ul)

578 When life gives you lead, make cannonade.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 12, 2018 12:19 PM


This.

Posted by: A Whiff of Grape at June 12, 2018 12:49 PM (ctuyM)

579 Where will the North Koreans get all the money to buy that stuff?

I see a rise in Korean Massage Parlors. The NK will have a happy ending.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 12, 2018 12:51 PM (Bdeb0)

580 If memory serves, the Bob Trigg ultra-light Commando frame was 531 Reynold tubing. Remarkable bit of engineering. 400 or so pound motor cycle, 60 or so HP, and you could twirl the bare frame on two fingers.

If you jigged up the alignment gage on any random four in a row, it would scare the hell out of you. Jump on any one, and it would outhandle anything on the road.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at June 12, 2018 12:13 PM (H5rtT)

I seem to remember there being a such a thing as customs called "NorVins", with a Vincent engine in a Norton "featherbed" frame?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 12, 2018 12:51 PM (WFV7d)

581 Exactly. Imagine Kim in Singapore and thinking about having such development, prosperity in his country.

He went to school in Switzerland and I doubt it was at PS-228. He's seen the prosperity of the west before.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 12, 2018 12:24 PM (O5Q3r)

Which means he is no doubt entirely aware of just how much growth Singapore has seen over the time interval between his school years and now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 12, 2018 12:58 PM (WFV7d)

582 Talking about reunification of Korea is ridiculous.
South Korea (pop. ca. 55 million) cannot absorb 25 million stunted, starved, brain-dead people that make Honduran peasants look like sophisticated Nobel laureates.

Can N Korea slowly become less of a prison camp than it is now? Can it find some way to improve its economic lot without relying entirely on selling slaves and extortion?Maybe --- if the army allows it. Maybe.

I don't know. But the main concern we should have is that it give up its nuclear program. Period. That affects us and allies like Japan directly.

Trump has made a good start. At least he is actually looking for something (denuclearization) that is in our interest.

Obama made NO demands on Cuba. NONE. Just like with Iran it was all give, give, give and NO concessions to us--- in the name of what?

Good left-wing feels?



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 12, 2018 01:01 PM (0jtPF)

583 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 12, 2018 11:00 AM (UBzPO)

Watching the video. At about 1:12 in the video the NorK states they used to call us "Big Noses". That sentiment is not limited to North Korea. I spent almost 7 years total in the RoK and many of them call us the exact same thing.

Posted by: Bill R. at June 12, 2018 01:07 PM (IuYIh)

584 Trump has drawn Kim out of his hermit kingdom into the world.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 12, 2018 01:09 PM (8n0ul)

585 The American military already has a plan for our post reunification presence. We are aware that the Chicoms are nervous of an American army on their border. We have built up Osan Air Base in Songtan, RoK to be our Air Force presence and while Yongsan Army Garrison in Seoul WAS to be 8th Army HQ, that property is slated to be turned over to the RoKs very soon. It is incredibly valuable and will be developed. The new HQ is located at Camp Humphreys in Pyongtaek, RoK. Both bases are not many miles from each other and are less than an hour by vehicle south of Seoul, a relatively central location on the peninsula.

Posted by: Bill R. at June 12, 2018 01:39 PM (IuYIh)

586 Hope that young man wasn't being pursued for a serious crime cuz that was a great performance that earned him the getaway! Egg on the faces of a couple out-of-shape cops was a bonus :>)))
Perhaps officer training programs should be adjusted accordingly.

Posted by: Roozter at June 12, 2018 05:13 PM (lEynA)

587 1 Corgis called.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at June 12, 2018 10:53 AM
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Ok, can't stand it any longer and must show my ignorance ;>)
WHAT'S WITH THE CORGIS??!!

Posted by: Roozter at June 12, 2018 05:18 PM (lEynA)

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