Supreme Court Rules 7-2 In Favor of Masterpiece Cakeshop, Persecuted by Colorado Civil Rights Commission for Refusing to Bake the Cake

The Court, unfortunately, did not rule that the Bake Me a Cake, Bigot law was itself unconstitutional, only that the members of the Colorado Civil Rights Commission showed a "hostility" and "animus" to religion that made this particular decision invalid.

The Supreme Court sided with a Colorado baker on Monday in a closely watched case pitting gay rights against claims of religious freedom.
Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, writing for the majority in the 7-2 decision, relied on narrow grounds, saying a state commission had violated the Constitution's protection of religious freedom in ruling against the baker, Jack Phillips, who had refused to create a custom wedding cake for a gay couple.
"The neutral and respectful consideration to which Phillips was entitled was compromised here," Justice Kennedy wrote. "The Civil Rights Commission's treatment of his case has some elements of a clear and impermissible hostility toward the sincere religious beliefs that motivated his objection."
The Supreme Court's decision, which turned on the commission’s asserted hostility to religion, strongly reaffirmed protections for gay rights and left open the possibility that other cases raising similar issues could be decided differently.

"The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts," Justice Kennedy wrote, "all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market."
Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justices Stephen G. Breyer, Samuel A. Alito Jr., Elena Kagan and Neil M. Gorsuch joined the majority opinion. Justice Clarence Thomas voted with the majority but would have adopted broader reasons.

Note that Hawaiian Judges have previously ruled that Trump's alleged animus and hostility to Muslims makes his travel ban unconstitutional, even though such measures are generally constitutional. I don't think this an analogous case (this case involves a tribunal ruling against a specific person, whereas the travel ban involves an executive action previously deemed constitutional; the court did not rule here that the Colorado commission's bias makes the entire law unconstitutional, which is the outlook pushed by Hawaiian Judges), but we'll see if the left pushes that angle.

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1 1st?

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 04, 2018 12:31 PM (MX7xj)

2 Eat this cake, bitchez! Or don't!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 04, 2018 12:32 PM (so+oy)

3 I wonder if there are any other rulings we could overturn based on animus?

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 04, 2018 12:32 PM (MX7xj)

4 rd?

Posted by: Surfperch at June 04, 2018 12:32 PM (E/U1b)

5 th

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at June 04, 2018 12:32 PM (mukob)

6 You are free to not bake cakes for fags if you don't want to bake cakes for fags. Freedom!

Posted by: Gumby at June 04, 2018 12:32 PM (2LelM)

7 top 10

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 04, 2018 12:33 PM (8D42x)

8 So is the Colorado Commission guilty of Hate Speech?

Posted by: WisRich at June 04, 2018 12:33 PM (G0vdT)

9 Ruth Buzzy and Sotomayor dissented. Shocked.

Posted by: weew at June 04, 2018 12:33 PM (EaEMG)

10 A "narrow" 7-2 SCOTUS decision, though...

Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2018 12:33 PM (W+vEI)

11 Is the issue that Kennedy or Roberts demanded a narrow ruling and as the real deciding vote got what they wanted?

Or did the court have the options of a broad declaration of religious liberty that was going to be 5-4?

If so f*** the "conservative" justices. This sort of crap has to stop. MAN UP.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 04, 2018 12:34 PM (Z8FFX)

12 They can just rewrite the law to impose an exhorbitant "tax" on the baker. That will pass Roberts' scholarly insight.

Posted by: wooga at June 04, 2018 12:34 PM (2aYYl)

13 C'mon man. They didn't like the cake because the frosting was too salty...

Posted by: Marcus T at June 04, 2018 12:34 PM (VpIIl)

14 Yeah, kicking the can down the road. Thanks SCOTUS.

Posted by: Sponge at June 04, 2018 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)

15 The AG in the WA state case was even more biased against the baker, due to her religion. There's a good chance that verdict could be appealed under this new ruling.

Posted by: notsothoreau at June 04, 2018 12:34 PM (JKNZq)

16 Not a clear win but I'll take what I can get.
The taste of the decision is particularly delicious during 'Pride month'.

Bwa ha ha.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 04, 2018 12:34 PM (xJa6I)

17 We can haz Cake Girl????

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 04, 2018 12:34 PM (xBSm0)

18 I was reading earlier that people analyzing this decision think they really decided nothing. And they keep describing this as a "narrow decision".

To me, it sounds like they squashed a shit-ton of these types of cases whenever it involves creative and artistic participation of the seller.

I think that's all anyone was asking for..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 04, 2018 12:35 PM (so+oy)

19 This seems like a cop out ruling to me. Either the baker should be compelled to bake the cake or not. The fact that the person trying to do the compelling was being a.. what's the term "feckless cunt"? Shouldn't have any bearing on it.

I have no doubt that if the commission hadn't been so virulently Anti Christian, the leftists would have gleefully ruled the other way.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 04, 2018 12:35 PM (mk7Bj)

20 The Right to a Cake to content one's heart is well-founded in the Thirteenth and a Half Amendment.

Posted by: Justice Sodatomato at June 04, 2018 12:35 PM (fiF07)

21 so rbg and Sotomayor couldn't bring themselves to uphold religious freedoms?

can they just pass on already?

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 04, 2018 12:35 PM (8D42x)

22 So, do we still have to write something about a feckless c*^t on cakes? Or is that still okay to refuse?

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 04, 2018 12:35 PM (7UW64)

23
Picked up Breyer and Kagan.

odd.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 04, 2018 12:36 PM (8XRCm)

24 overturn based on animus?"

I'm all in!

Wait, what?

Posted by: Shep! at June 04, 2018 12:36 PM (7LY+6)

25 Yeah, kicking the ~~can~~ cake down the road. Thanks SCOTUS.

Fixed

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 04, 2018 12:36 PM (xBSm0)

26 http://bit.ly/2LmNWor
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Willowed

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 04, 2018 12:36 PM (y3aQB)

27 Penumbras and Bags of Dick.

Posted by: Gumby at June 04, 2018 12:36 PM (2LelM)

28 Money quote that the media seems to be missing;
"...the Colorado Civil Rights Commission violated the Free Exercise Clause of the Constitution when it forced Jack Phillips to make a cake for a same-sex wedding that he morally opposed."

Posted by: Marcus T at June 04, 2018 12:36 PM (VpIIl)

29 So, I can no longer demand that Chik-Fil-A stay open on Sundays to provide the 7 day per week cultural invasion of New Yorkers that my sincerely held beiefs demand?

Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 04, 2018 12:36 PM (mIJ9W)

30 10 A "narrow" 7-2 SCOTUS decision, though...
Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2018 12:33 PM (W+vEI)

Yeah, a real squeaker.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 04, 2018 12:36 PM (TRbOb)

31 If this were a Muslim bakery, the Commission in Colorado would have been respectful...

They probably would have just ruled in the baker's favor, as Muslim trumps gay in the Leftist command structure, but even if they hadn't, then they would have every show of obsequious servitude to the Mohammedan during the process.

Then, how would this ruling have gone?

Might be time to put it to the test.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 04, 2018 12:36 PM (AzW6q)

32 Knock knock. Who's there? Cake Gestapo! Cake Gestapo who? Ve will ask der questions, citizen! You vill yust bake der cake, schnell!

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (md3fh)

33 Who were the two feckless cunts who voted in favor of religious discrimination?

Posted by: Sessile B. Demille, Channeling Samantha Bee-atch at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (XcgmW)

34 Not a clear win but I'll take what I can get.
The taste of the decision is particularly delicious during 'Pride month'.

Bwa ha ha.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 04, 2018 12:34 PM (xJa6I)

I wonder if that was intentional or not...

epic trolling?

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (8D42x)

35 "without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs"

So, disrespect to sincere religious beliefs is fine, as long as it isn't "undue".

Got it.

Posted by: Miklos, narrowly disapproving at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (zCyNd)

36 14- They did kick the can down the road, but:

That still beats a sharp stick in the eye, which is what we usually get on social/cultural issues cases. And the make-up of the Court might be better further down the road.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (koqu9)

37
Pie Wins!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (r+sAi)

38 21 so rbg and Sotomayor couldn't bring themselves to uphold religious freedoms?

can they just pass on already?

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 04, 2018 12:35 PM (8D42x)

To those two feckless.....justices, baby-murder is a sacrament, faggotry is divine, and you will bake that cake, asshole.

Christianity? That's just bigotry, you bigot.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (7UW64)

39
Soooooooo...... if the commission would have been "nicer" to the baker they could have ruled in the States favor???

WTF kind of ruling is that??

Posted by: fixerupper at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (8XRCm)

40 I'm not sure this whole hostility 'principle' is exactly compatible with the Constitution.

More than a few of the people that wrote it were a bit hostile to a lot of ideas, including being ruled by a select few.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (zfrbv)

41 16
Not a clear win but I'll take what I can get.

The taste of the decision is particularly delicious during 'Pride month'.

Bwa ha ha.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 04, 2018 12:34 PM (xJa6I)

Now I'm really happy... about the Pride bitch slap.Twisted organization that it is.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (2CQCl)

42 "To me, it sounds like they squashed a shit-ton of these types of
cases whenever it involves creative and artistic participation of the
seller."
I think the Court punted a bit by focusing upon Colorado's Kangaroo Process and its blithely dismissing the idea that religious rights exist.
In sum, you can read it as a roadmap for future Kangaroo Tribunals not to make a record that would necessarily run afoul of this holding.

Posted by: Justice Sodatomato at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (fiF07)

43 22 So, do we still have to write something about a feckless c*^t on cakes? Or is that still okay to refuse?
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That's okay. Summa Cum Laude not so much.

Posted by: Gumby at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (2LelM)

44 But did they take into consideration the new revelation by the Pope that God made gays gay?

Posted by: Sponge at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)

45 I get the whole "I like poop on my penis" angle, but I'm fairly okay saying that no American can force another American to do anything.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 04, 2018 12:38 PM (VgKNm)

46 There is no official Constitutional recognition of illegal aliens -- who are by definition totally exterior to the system--let alone protections, outside of basic human rights.

Posted by: Axeman at June 04, 2018 12:38 PM (vDqXW)

47 Then, how would this ruling have gone?

Might be time to put it to the test.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 04, 2018 12:36 PM (AzW6q)

Crowder did that. It was glorious.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 04, 2018 12:38 PM (7UW64)

48 From the analysis at SCOTUS blog:

"Although Phillips prevailed today, the opinion by Justice Anthony Kennedy rested largely on the majority's conclusion that the Colorado administrative agency that ruled against Phillips treated him unfairly by being too hostile to his sincere religious beliefs. The court seemed to leave open the possibility that a different outcome could result in a future case, and it did not rule at all on one of the central arguments in the case - whether compelling Phillips to bake a cake for a same-sex couple would violate his right to freedom of speech."

Posted by: mercenary13 at June 04, 2018 12:38 PM (FgVg7)

49 NPR Rules:
Conservative Justices are "right-wing Justices."
Liberal Justices are "Justices."

Posted by: Sessile B. Demille, Channeling Samantha Bee-atch at June 04, 2018 12:38 PM (XcgmW)

50 Willowed: This may still be pertinent.
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538
16 What am I not seeing that isn't good about it?

It's about this specific case, it doesn't apply broadly.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 04, 2018 11:25 AM (ZGrMX)

It has been a long time since I dealt in this area so bear with me. The Supreme Court has long taken a view towards freedom of religious expression and freedom of political expression that can only be described as "the government better have a good reason" for the restriction. There has to be a compelling government interest and no other less restrictive way of achieving that interest (I know I am butchering this). I believe the Supremes noted that the Commission did not use this test and in fact blew off the religious belief explanation. I think the ruling (which I have yet to read) was to send the case back, use the correct religious expression balancing test, show your work, and stop f**king around - we're busy.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 04, 2018 12:38 PM (hLRSq)

51 39
Soooooooo...... if the commission would have been "nicer" to the baker they could have ruled in the States favor???

WTF kind of ruling is that??
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Its a Nutless Decision. Look it up.

Posted by: Gumby at June 04, 2018 12:38 PM (2LelM)

52 Is God gay? That explains a lot, like why there is no Mrs. God. Always looked fishy to me.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:39 PM (md3fh)

53 Cake Girl:

https://www.everythingmixed.com/wp-content/uploads/happy-diablo-3-day.jpg

Posted by: Sponge at June 04, 2018 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)

54 I think the ruling is just a tad broader than the uber liberal Adam Liptak wants to acknowledge.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 12:39 PM (/tuJf)

55 >> http://bit.ly/2LmNWor
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Jack Straw

Great timeline, though I would add:
April 19th - Fusion GPS/Glenn Simpson hires Nellie Ohr

Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2018 12:39 PM (W+vEI)

56 The bake shop wouldn't have had a problem baking any cake for gay couple It's not as if they inquire "What's your sexual orientation?" before the sell you a "Happy Birthday Cake" for Joe and Jack. They just didn't want to have a decorate a cake for a gay wedding and take it to the venue-which the bakers have to do-thuss indicating support for gay marriage. There are a plethora of bakers who would do a gay wedding cake-as would all large Supermarkets and What a surprise-NOT!!-many men in the catering/cooking business are gay.

Posted by: fenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 12:40 PM (vw6r3)

57
There is one place that makes it a huge decision. Churches, Synagogues, etc will not have to accommodate gay weddings. And we know this was the next attack of the gay mafia.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 04, 2018 12:40 PM (r+sAi)

58 It's clearly a tax...

Posted by: Chief Justice John "it's a tax" Roberts at June 04, 2018 12:40 PM (NTM5E)

59 Freedom of Pastries! And other bakery goodies!

Posted by: Waffle Boy Barry at June 04, 2018 12:40 PM (BsGiZ)

60 >> NPR Rules:
Conservative Justices are "right-wing Justices."
Liberal Justices are "Justices."

Nina Totenberg's descriptions, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2018 12:40 PM (W+vEI)

61 But did they take into consideration the new revelation by the Pope that God made gays gay?
Posted by: Sponge at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)
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I read an account of that. Reads like the guy heard from the Pope what he wanted to hear. And, I haven't been a Catholic for more than 35 years, so I've got no axe to grind.

Posted by: Axeman at June 04, 2018 12:40 PM (vDqXW)

62
But did they take into consideration the new revelation by the Pope that God made gays gay?

Posted by: Sponge at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)

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Is this real? Because that's awesome if so. Nothing I do is sinful because God made me this way.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 04, 2018 12:41 PM (VgKNm)

63 Shorter Anthony Kennedy: "stupid commission, you're supposed to wait until after I decide the Christians have to bake gays a cake to show how much you hate them."

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 04, 2018 12:41 PM (mk7Bj)

64 I don't think a lot of you read the derision. There were some very clearly articulated points

Posted by: Marcus T at June 04, 2018 12:41 PM (VpIIl)

65
I don't think a lot of you read the derision.

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I seeing PLENTY of derision here.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 04, 2018 12:42 PM (8XRCm)

66 They just didn't want to have a decorate a cake for a gay wedding and take it to the venue-which the bakers have to do-thuss indicating support for gay marriage.

Posted by: fenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 12:40 PM (vw6r3)
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We *will* write "Fag" on your cake for you, though.

Posted by: Ficticious Kroger Store Bakery at June 04, 2018 12:42 PM (vDqXW)

67 >>http://bit.ly/2LmNWor
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>>Willowed

Yea, I read that over the weekend.

What is currently breaking is that Strzok and Page were attempting to get approval for overseas spies as early as December of 2015. It was in their text messages.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 12:42 PM (/tuJf)

68 There is one place that makes it a huge decision.
Churches, Synagogues, etc will not have to accommodate gay weddings. And
we know this was the next attack of the gay mafia.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 04, 2018 12:40 PM (r+sAi)

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Hold my beer.

- That group of people that loves telling others to stay out of their bedrooms

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 04, 2018 12:43 PM (VgKNm)

69 Why must "sincere religious beliefs" be relied upon to buttress 'non serviam?' Are 'personal biases' unrelated to spiritual belief insufficient and undeserving of similar Constitutional protection?

Sounds like a beg on Kennedy's part.

Posted by: Zod at June 04, 2018 12:43 PM (Bdeb0)

70 That still beats a sharp stick in the eye, which is
what we usually get on social/cultural issues cases. And the make-up of
the Court might be better further down the road.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (koqu9)

Sharp stick in the eye? More like bent over with no lube...

Posted by: Timon at June 04, 2018 12:43 PM (NTM5E)

71
The Supreme Court sided with a Colorado baker on Monday in a closely watched case pitting gay rights against claims of religious freedom.

Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, writing for the majority in the 7-2 decision, relied on narrow grounds, saying a state commission had violated the Constitution's protection of religious freedom in ruling against the baker, Jack Phillips, who had refused to create a custom wedding cake for a gay couple.

That's doubly great because it's the same way gays defeated antisodimy laws. It wasn't that antisodimy laws were unconstitutional, it's that they were being used by the state to discrimate against gays

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 04, 2018 12:43 PM (10vO4)

72 Most evil person every to live was innocent because God made him that way? Hmm, something wrong with that methinks. Satan has a role to play, too. Without Satan, nothing makes sense. Yin and Yang, Tit for Tat, etc.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:43 PM (md3fh)

73

EM EDGAR WINTER FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at June 04, 2018 12:43 PM (mPeei)

74 62
But did they take into consideration the new revelation by the Pope that God made gays gay?

Posted by: Sponge at June 04, 2018 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)

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Is this real? Because that's awesome if so. Nothing I do is sinful because God made me this way.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 04, 2018 12:41 PM (VgKNm)

Pretty sure what he said was that God made you precisely as He wanted you to be.

Nothing there that says God demands that you have buttsecks and call it good.

The Catholic position is that same-sex attraction is a burden--NOT A SIN in and of itself. It is that actual buttsecks that is a sin. Homosexuals are called to a life of chastity if they cannot find attraction to the opposite sex and marry. Pretty much the same as pedophiles are called to a life of chastity, because sex with kids is evil. And unmarried folks are ALL called to chastity, period.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 04, 2018 12:45 PM (7UW64)

75 Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at June 04, 2018 12:43 PM (mPeei)

Nice (and somewhat fitting) hash.

Posted by: Surfperch at June 04, 2018 12:46 PM (E/U1b)

76
What is currently breaking is that Strzok and Page were attempting to get approval for overseas spies as early as December of 2015. It was in their text messages.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 12:42 PM (/tuJf)
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Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 04, 2018 12:46 PM (y3aQB)

77 So this is good but not really?

Posted by: IC at June 04, 2018 12:47 PM (a0IVu)

78 72 Most evil person every to live was innocent because God made him that way? Hmm, something wrong with that methinks. Satan has a role to play, too. Without Satan, nothing makes sense. Yin and Yang, Tit for Tat, etc.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:43 PM (md3fh)

Not only no, but hell no.

We all have our particular cross to bear. God did not create evil--we did that all on our own. But He does give us the means to rise above it and reach heaven--His Son made sure of that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 04, 2018 12:47 PM (7UW64)

79 Pope Frankie doesn't strike me as being very bright.He is a pliable tool of the left.

Posted by: steevy at June 04, 2018 12:47 PM (LiyEm)

80 Since the Colorado commission in question destroyed his business, does he have any ability to recapture lost profits and damages from the State? Without a financial penalty this seems like a fruitless win.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at June 04, 2018 12:47 PM (rBnYq)

81 Some think we cannot be held guilty for our thoughts. Others disagree. It was explained to me a week or so ago that because I do not believe in an afterlife I am damned to Hell, no matter how exemplary a life I may lead (and I must say that I am very exemplary in every possible way).

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:47 PM (md3fh)

82 http://bit.ly/2LhF43F
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Tractor Trailer load of salt on this one

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 04, 2018 12:47 PM (y3aQB)

83 "The laws and the Constitution can, and in some instances must, protect gay persons and gay couples in the exercise of their civil rights, but religious and philosophical objections to gay marriage are protected views and in some instances protected forms of expression."

"Phillips too was entitled to a neutral and respectful consideration of his claims in all circumstances of the case. That consideration was compromised, however, by the commissions treatment of Phillips' case, which showed elements of a clear and impermissible hostility towards the sincere religious beliefs that motivated his objections".
These are both very important points and scrubs a lot of pending litigation...

Posted by: Marcus T at June 04, 2018 12:47 PM (VpIIl)

84
CO legislature passed new state song:
Colorado, oh ColoradoWhere you can smoke potBut don't have to share your cakewith a homo.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 04, 2018 12:48 PM (r+sAi)

85
Pretty sure what he said was that God made you precisely as He wanted you to be.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 04, 2018 12:45 PM (7UW64)
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Or he could have said, "God makes people in all different ways with different inclinations and struggles", as a way to be sympathetic to the struggles of that orientation.

Who knows? He's the only one telling it.

Posted by: Ficticious Kroger Store Bakery at June 04, 2018 12:48 PM (vDqXW)

86 67
>>http://bit.ly/2LmNWor

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A Hornet's Nest Kicked - The Importance of Rogers' March 2016 Discovery

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Jack Straw

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>>Willowed

Yea, I read that over the weekend.

What is currently breaking is that Strzok and Page were attempting
to get approval for overseas spies as early as December of 2015. It was
in their text messages.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 12:42 PM (/tuJf)

This is "exciting" news.
Imagine, if you will, the sound of a twelve inch wooded rule held tightly against the corner of a desk and then pulled upward and released with a snap.
That is the sound of a schadenbonah coming to attention.

Posted by: Rod Serling at June 04, 2018 12:48 PM (ymnmz)

87 I'm surprised Kennedy wrote the decision. Then again he didn't overturn the bullshit of Bake Me a Cake Bigot, so I'm not that surprised.

Posted by: buzzion at June 04, 2018 12:48 PM (lKs2v)

88 Those guys are fags!

Posted by: Elena "Spicoli" Kagan at June 04, 2018 12:49 PM (2aYYl)

89 "Pope Frankie doesn't strike me as being very bright.He is a pliable tool of the left."

When one is a tool, there is no real need to be bright.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 04, 2018 12:49 PM (EyPfd)

90 Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:47 PM (md3fh)

Who explained that to you?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 12:49 PM (vw6r3)

91 Kennedy: The commission was so biased and full of animosity toward religion, even comparing it to the Holocaust, there was no way the Baker could get a fair hearing.

RGB/Sotomayor: So? Bake the cake bigot.

Posted by: WisRich at June 04, 2018 12:49 PM (G0vdT)

92 Shit.

Posted by: Judge Kalikimaka at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (HgMAr)

93 Old and busted: mind games

New hotness: thought crimes

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (+y/Ru)

94 I'm breaking my rule about commenting whilst at work (though I'm at lunch so that's okay) and on any thread that directly involves gay matters because this is very important to me.

I'm so happy about this decision that when BC texted me that the bakers won I very nearly started sobbing at my desk. I still may.

I was convinced the bakers would lose and I assumed it would be a 5-4 decision in which SCOTUS eliminated the First Amendment. I am thrilled to be wrong.

I'll have to read the decision and there is some troubling language in the dicta I was seen so far but this is a win. This is a HUGE win and that it was 7-2 is going to make it more difficult for the Left to do the out of touch and this is not who we are schtick.

Is there still significant work to be done to hammer home as clearly as possible that religious beliefs that homosexuality is morally wrong and that gay marriage is improper are not per se bigotry? Yes. But this is a major, major win.

I'm so happy about this.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (mf5HN)

95 79 Pope Frankie doesn't strike me as being very bright.He is a pliable tool of the left.

Posted by: steevy at June 04, 2018 12:47 PM (LiyEm)

Cranky Franky will go down in history as one of the dimmest of popes, and his tenure will result in.....not one damned thing.

Luckily, we still have Pope B16, who remains doing the Lord's work. The prayers of that holy man are just about the only thing saving this papacy from complete ruin.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (7UW64)

96 Is the Pope Catholic? Coming to a Supreme Court near you.

Posted by: Gumby at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (2LelM)

97 A gay-married guy just called in to Rush and said the militant gay activists don't speak for him. He said just as he wouldn't want others to force their opinions on him, he doesn't think gays should force their opinions on others.

Posted by: Emmie at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (/A+Cl)

98 Nancy Pelosi on Twitter:

The right to be free from persecution & discrimination because of who they are or whom they love is the most fundamental right of every American. The Supreme Court's Masterpiece Cakeshop decision fails to uphold equality.

Ted Cruz on Twitter:

Today's Supreme Court decision upholding a Colorado baker's constitutional right to live according to his faith is a major victory for religious liberty. The fact that the decision was 7-2 (not a narrow 5-4) underscores that govt should NEVER discriminate against religious faith.

Posted by: mercenary13 at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (FgVg7)

99 A guy wearing an FBI cap and I am not kidding. He explained that he was not actually with the FBI, which was no surprise to me.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (md3fh)

100 I want to live in a country where a gay person can live their life happily, more or less, without being hounded and harassed to the point of suicide.

I also want to live in a country where a person can believe homosexuality is a sin, and is not forced by the State (essentially at gunpoint) to accept, participate in, or celebrate behavior they find abhorrent.

As far as I know, the Constitution as written provides for both of these conditions to obtain.

"Gay Rights" are the same damn rights everyone else has.

You don't like "The Gheyz"? Stay the hell away from them then.

People treat you like shit because you're gay? Stay the hell away from them then.

Free Association works both ways.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (AURKQ)

101 I think this decision is broader than Kennedy pretends.

The ONLY reason that bakers, florists, photographers, etc. object to providing services and good s for homosexual weddings is that homosexuality is a sin that they cannot participate in. The ONLY reasons that Civil Rights Commissions could give for making them (or attempting to make them since devout Christians cannot break God's laws even if ordered to by the state) disparage those individuals' religions by saying they are less important than the hurt feelings of homosexuals.

Kennedy set this problem up by declaring (twice) with the Constitution hating progressives that homosexuals have special rights that other Americans don't. He boxed himself into a corner where he cannot protect the special rights that he made up out of whole cloth without going against SCOTUS case law and destroying a set of rights that are explicitly written in the Constitution. This opinion was an attempt to square that circle.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (FTXAT)

102 'Sincere religious beliefs' will next be used by CAIR and ISNA to allow masked rioters. Southern states already have 'no masks' laws. Protest all you want, but you will be identified and charged if violent. Forget the 'burka bans', that will be the next religious test. So I am putting my 5cents on that one after the 50-year anniversary of 1968.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (MIKMs)

103 The concurrence by Gorsuch is really strong. Great pick by Trump.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 04, 2018 12:51 PM (OD2ni)

104 What is currently breaking is that Strzok and Page were attempting to get approval for overseas spies as early as December of 2015. It was
in their text messages.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 12:42 PM (/tuJf)

Was Trump even running then or was the Deep State just decided to target whoever the candidate would be?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 12:51 PM (vw6r3)

105

I need an emotional support cake.

But it has to come with an emotional support Cake Girl just like that one in the picture.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 04, 2018 12:51 PM (HaL55)

106 89 Exactly the reason he was chosen.Leftish leaning and dumb.

Posted by: steevy at June 04, 2018 12:51 PM (LiyEm)

107 Its an interesting decision. Seems to me to be a shot over the bows of States agencies of all stripes to keep it fair in all dealings, and to keep their personal bias' out of their rulings/decisions.
I wonder if Federal Agencies will pay attention?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 04, 2018 12:52 PM (0tfLf)

108 Is there still significant work to be done to hammer home as clearly as possible that religious beliefs that homosexuality is morally wrong and that gay marriage is improper are not per se bigotry? Yes. But this is a major, major win.

I'm so happy about this.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around.

Good for you! I realize that these topics are not easy. More power to you!

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 04, 2018 12:52 PM (OOUHd)

109 The thing didn't start out as anti-Trump, but just an op to assure the Beast would serve as POTUS. Massive fail.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:52 PM (md3fh)

110 AtC, I understand about you respecting your work time, but we miss you! Thanks for checking in.

Posted by: Emmie at June 04, 2018 12:52 PM (/A+Cl)

111 I got the last tomatoes at the deli today.

This pleases me.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 04, 2018 12:52 PM (WDCYi)

112
"Gay Rights" are the same damn rights everyone else has.

You don't like "The Gheyz"? Stay the hell away from them then.

People treat you like shit because you're gay? Stay the hell away from them then.

Free Association works both ways.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (AURKQ)
The hells you say.......

Posted by: Sponge at June 04, 2018 12:53 PM (Zz0t1)

113 The Black Robed Taliban should have included in their opinion about the Colorado Commission on Race and Resettlement by telling them "Hate is not a family value."

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 04, 2018 12:53 PM (EoRCO)

114 Not a clear win but I'll take what I can get.
The taste of the decision is particularly delicious during 'Pride month'.

Bwa ha ha.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 04, 2018 12:34 PM (xJa6I)

It is?? I had forgotten Pride Month. HA HA!

"Bake me a cake, bigot!"

"No! Take a hike, Nancy-boy!"

HAHAHAHAHA!!

Dann, that really is sweet.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 04, 2018 12:53 PM (xlCXC)

115 Wait, why was I not consulted?

Posted by: The Hawaiian Judge at June 04, 2018 12:53 PM (TSwVa)

116 "79 Pope Frankie doesn't strike me as being very bright.He is a pliable tool of the left.
Posted by: steevy"

He is on may issues but he has been pretty good on abortion and gay marriage/adoption (low bar I know).

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 04, 2018 12:53 PM (OD2ni)

117 >>Was Trump even running then or was the Deep State just decided to target whoever the candidate would be?

Yes indeed he was. He announced in June of 2015.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 12:53 PM (/tuJf)

118 Sounds like bullshit to me.

Posted by: Mega at June 04, 2018 12:53 PM (leYhS)

119 Not so fast. Hawaiian Judge number 5 has said that the Supreme Court is unconstitutional.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 04, 2018 12:53 PM (7ZVPa)

120 104
What is currently breaking is that Strzok and Page were attempting to
get approval for overseas spies as early as December of 2015. It was

in their text messages.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 12:42 PM (/tuJf)

Was Trump even running then or was the Deep State just decided to target whoever the candidate would be?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 12:51 PM (vw6r3)

Bet they had a "helper" in his organization during his very early his presidential run formulation activities and when he first started to talk among his peeps, they said, take to take this whale down.

Posted by: Rod Serling at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (ymnmz)

121 If this were a Muslim bakery, the Commission in Colorado would have been respectful...

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 04, 2018 12:36 PM (AzW6q)

Are you kidding? They would have shown-up dressed as goats with tubes of Astrolube in the gift bags.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (9BLnV)

122 happy 76th anniversary of the Battle of Midway.

By this time of the day, the battle was basically won.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (h/uSM)

123 79 Pope Frankie doesn't strike me as being very bright. He is a pliable tool of the left.

According to certain understandings of the Malachy prophecy, Pope Francis is the last pope and if other Catholic prophecies are correct, those events will happen under his pontificate.

According to Bible prophecy:
A false religious leader will arise.
This false leader will encourage an ecumenical faith.
The vast majority of humankind will accept this improper faith.
A false religious leader will perform signs and lying wonders.
Nearly all humankind will be deceived by signs and lying wonders.
The final Antichrist will promote the final "Beast/King of the North" that the Bible warns against.
The "Beast/King of the North," that the Antichrist supports will destroy the Anglo-descended nations.
The "Beast/King of the North," will destroy an Arabic confederation.
The Great Tribulation and Day of the Lord last 3 ½ years.
A few years after the start of the Great Tribulation, Rome will be destroyed.
Jesus will come after Rome is destroyed.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (Bdeb0)

124 Twilight Zone sock off

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (ymnmz)

125 Why must "sincere religious beliefs" be relied upon to buttress 'non serviam?' Are 'personal biases' unrelated to spiritual belief insufficient and undeserving of similar Constitutional protection?

Sounds like a beg on Kennedy's part.
Posted by: Zod at June 04, 2018 12:43 PM (Bdeb0)
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That's entirely disingenuous of our judiciary. They re-wrote the Constitutional protections by using Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists. But it is such a special-case splice, because they always seem to miss that the often-cited "Wall of Separation" was, by Jefferson's own words, in defense of the "Rights of Conscience".

So, if everything were on the up-and-up, we would have Rights of Conscience, but that has been taken away in the advance of the Siege Walls of the state.

Posted by: Axeman at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (vDqXW)

126 104 What is currently breaking is that Strzok and Page were attempting to get approval for overseas spies as early as December of 2015. It was
in their text messages.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 12:42 PM (/tuJf)

Was Trump even running then or was the Deep State just decided to target whoever the candidate would be?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 12:51 PM

Trump formally announced in mid-June 2015.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (0tfLf)

127 This is a Kennedy upper decker for sure.

Basically once again the SCOTUS tailors a decision so narrow that you need a sub atomic microscope to thread this fucking needle.

Which is what conservatives get after all.

We get absurdly narrow decisons and the left gets decisions that are so broad you can drive planetary systems through them.

Bottom line it doesn't matter what excuse you give them the fucking assholes.

There was a reason that these homo groups are targeting these particular establishments.

They go in to make test case.

It's rather interesting that homos targeted an Indiana Pizzaria to cater a wedding? No?

They don't seem to go after Muslim bakers or phtographers!!!

This shit is all a planned and scripted op.

So I'm betting that the Colorado Commission goes back to the drawing board to go after these people with reasoning that will satisfy Justice Asshole, I mean Kennedy.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (UfMVm)

128 Is that frosting on your lip?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (VpIIl)

129 He is on may issues but he has been pretty good on abortion and gay marriage/adoption (low bar I know).
Posted by: Benji Carver at June 04, 2018 12:53 PM (OD2ni)

Did he say anything after Ireland voted to allow abortion last week?

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (mk7Bj)

130 I still think whole thing was a set up

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (JFO2v)

131 "But it has to come with an emotional support Cake Girl just like that one in the picture."

Fine.

I still want my very own emotional support Tri-corner Hat Girl.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 04, 2018 12:55 PM (EyPfd)

132 Nancy Pelosi on Twitter:

The right to be free from persecution & discrimination because of who they are or whom they love is the most fundamental right of every American. The Supreme Court's Masterpiece Cakeshop decision fails to uphold equality.

-
Shorter: if you don't have a dick in your mouth you're a hater and deserve to die.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 12:55 PM (+y/Ru)

133 Just a reminder, Masterpeace bakers did not refuse service to gays; they simply declined to actively participate in a gay wedding. They were quite happy to sell their baked goods to anyone.

Posted by: Emmie at June 04, 2018 12:55 PM (/A+Cl)

134 81 Some think we cannot be held guilty for our thoughts. Others disagree. It was explained to me a week or so ago that because I do not believe in an afterlife I am damned to Hell, no matter how exemplary a life I may lead (and I must say that I am very exemplary in every possible way).

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:47 PM (md3fh)

Oh, sweetie, that is a load of manure.

If you have heard the truth, in charity, and still cannot find faith, then you were not given that faith to begin with. Faith is a gift, not something you can demand. It is, however, something you can refuse.

Honestly, having known and been related to any number of good people who simply do not believe, I have serious reservations about anyone who claims that any soul is damned to hell. That decision is well beyond any human being's pay grade.

God's mercy is deep and wide, a rushing torrent from heaven enveloping us all.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 04, 2018 12:55 PM (7UW64)

135 judges found a way to rule against but mean nothing. they ruled the commission showed bias. Ginsberg even complained about the choice of this narrow (microscopic) ruling. Nothing about the right (they think they have this) of minorities to poke a stick in a law abiding persons' eye.

Posted by: TANSTAASFL at June 04, 2018 12:55 PM (Wa5hI)

136 119 Not so fast. Hawaiian Judge number 5 has said that the Supreme Court is unconstitutional.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 04, 2018 12:53 PM (7ZVPa)

I like that guy, he brings in Guava Cake on Thursdays.

Posted by: Random Hawaii Judge #7 at June 04, 2018 12:55 PM (72PAC)

137 Why does it have to be religious beliefs? Could you refuse service to a child molester, just because you don't like child molesters, religion notwithstanding?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 04, 2018 12:56 PM (TRbOb)

138 No one took Trump's campaign seriously until well into 2016 when he started winning one state after another for the nom.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:56 PM (md3fh)

139

Anusmiss?

No, no interest in miss's ani...

Posted by: Shemp Smith at June 04, 2018 12:56 PM (AyGZp)

140
Are you kidding? They would have shown-up dressed as goats with tubes of Astrolube in the gift bags.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (9BLnV)

-------------

I was going to mention that I think it's "astroglide" but I didn't want people asking me how I knew that.

Oh, wait....

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 04, 2018 12:56 PM (qC1Sy)

141
Cake Girl.

I just now noticed her shoes were off in the background.

In the kitchen.... barefoot.

Bunk.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 04, 2018 12:56 PM (8XRCm)

142 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 12:51 PM (vw6r3)
=======
I think the Chicago Mafia did the same to Mittens

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 04, 2018 12:56 PM (y3aQB)

143 Was Trump even running then or was the Deep State just decided to target whoever the candidate would be?
---
Pretty much everybody has to announce in 2015. The primaries have been inching toward January for some time now.

Posted by: Axeman at June 04, 2018 12:56 PM (vDqXW)

144 Nancy Pelosi on Twitter:

The right to be free from persecution & discrimination because of who they are or whom they love is the most fundamental right of every American. The Supreme Court's Masterpiece Cakeshop decision fails to uphold equality.

The gift that keeps on giving.

The only one persecuted was the baker.

I know that you will continue to kiss the ass of every officeholder because of professional courtesy, but when the cake nazis compare cakes to the Holocaust, you're setting yourself up for failure.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 04, 2018 12:56 PM (OOUHd)

145 So I guess this ruling is just telling the Colorado Civil Rights Commission TO PRETEND better that you are not out to crucify religious bakers.

You know, moar Kabuki theater before you hang the baker in your kangaroo commission.

Posted by: Slip & Slide at June 04, 2018 12:56 PM (TSwVa)

146 Posted by: rhennigantx at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (JFO2v)

You mean the gay people asking for a wedding cake?
Yes; I expect so. They knew the baker had religious scruples and they could have gotten a cake at any other shop in town. They wanted to sue and bring the baker legal trouble.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 12:56 PM (vw6r3)

147 "Is that frosting on your lip?"

Nah...blew a seal.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 04, 2018 12:57 PM (EyPfd)

148 >>Today's Supreme Court decision upholding a Colorado baker's constitutional right to live according to his faith is a major victory for religious liberty....

Just thankful Obama and his clever wording that redefined "religious" freedom to "freedom to worship"/ability to attend church are GONE.

Still work to be done for religious freedom, but that scope creep was particularly infuriating.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2018 12:57 PM (W+vEI)

149 I will take my cake dockside, thank you!

Posted by: Capt Kristol in his motorized canoe at June 04, 2018 12:57 PM (yhf6w)

150 The right to be free from persecution & discrimination because of who they are or whom they love is the most fundamental right of every American.

Whom or what they "love." Let's not leave out the Muzzies and their goat love here.

H8ter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 04, 2018 12:57 PM (TRbOb)

151

Is that frosting on your lip?

Nope. Blown seal.

And keep my dessert preferences out of it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 04, 2018 12:57 PM (HaL55)

152 132 Nancy Pelosi on Twitter:

The right to be free from persecution & discrimination because of who they are or whom they love is the most fundamental right of every American. The Supreme Court's Masterpiece Cakeshop decision fails to uphold equality.
---------------------

Wow, so completely unaware it's astounding.

Exactly what does Pelosi think was happening to the bakers?

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 04, 2018 12:57 PM (qC1Sy)

153 "Beast/King of the North,"

-
And Obama comes from Chicago.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 12:57 PM (+y/Ru)

154 Just a reminder, Masterpeace bakers did not refuse service to gays; they simply declined to actively participate in a gay wedding. They were quite happy to sell their baked goods to anyone.
Posted by: Emmie at June 04, 2018 12:55 PM (/A+Cl)
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SAME THING.

Posted by: The Left's SAME_THING Rubberstamp at June 04, 2018 12:58 PM (vDqXW)

155 Key take away on this ruling for me?

The Supremes did not slap down the idea of the Commission.

That the Government can decide winners and losers based on who is more outraged about the others personal beliefs...

They slapped down the fact that said commission did not hide its own biases enough...

They left in place a legal structure where the Government can decide if your beliefs, are valid.

Sad day for freedom in America...

Posted by: Don Q at June 04, 2018 12:58 PM (NgKpN)

156 The Golden Scalp Weasel descending the escalator at Trump Tower along with it's host body on June 16, 2015 to announce that they would be running for the presidency.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 12:58 PM (/tuJf)

157 Everything is better with Cake Girl (tm)

Posted by: Mega at June 04, 2018 12:58 PM (leYhS)

158 A guy wearing an FBI cap and I am not kidding. He explained that he was not actually with the FBI, which was no surprise to me.
Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM

So he is: FBI = Federal Boob Inspector?

Posted by: Hands at June 04, 2018 12:58 PM (EzdLW)

159 -
And Obama comes from Chicago.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 12:57 PM (+y/Ru)

I thought Chicago teams were in the Central divisions?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 04, 2018 12:58 PM (AURKQ)

160 Posted by: tcn in AK at June 04, 2018 12:55 PM (7UW64)

nicely said

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 12:59 PM (vw6r3)

161
And Obama comes from Chicago.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 12:57 PM (+y/Ru)

----

*cough*

Kenya be more wrong on that.

*cough*

Posted by: fixerupper at June 04, 2018 12:59 PM (8XRCm)

162 Nancy Pelosi on Twitter:

The right to be free from persecution discrimination because
of who they are or whom they love is the most fundamental right of every
American. The Supreme Court's Masterpiece Cakeshop decision fails to
uphold equality.

---------------------

This reasoning is why practitioners are pedophilia and incest will be the next groups pressing for special rights.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 04, 2018 12:59 PM (FTXAT)

163 It's starting to come out the Obama ordered spying on the Mittens campaign. This thing is deep and probably goes back decades.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:59 PM (md3fh)

164
According to certain understandings of the Malachy prophecy, Pope Francis is the last pope and if other Catholic prophecies are correct, those events will happen under his pontificate.

According to Bible prophecy:
A false religious leader will arise.
This false leader will encourage an ecumenical faith.
The vast majority of humankind will accept this improper faith.
A false religious leader will perform signs and lying wonders.
Nearly all humankind will be deceived by signs and lying wonders.
The final Antichrist will promote the final "Beast/King of the North" that the Bible warns against.
The "Beast/King of the North," that the Antichrist supports will destroy the Anglo-descended nations.
The "Beast/King of the North," will destroy an Arabic confederation.
The Great Tribulation and Day of the Lord last 3 years.
A few years after the start of the Great Tribulation, Rome will be destroyed.
Jesus will come after Rome is destroyed.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (Bdeb0)

You are aware that the Malachy prophesy is complete and utter BS, yes?

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 04, 2018 12:59 PM (7UW64)

165 Nah...blew a seal.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 04, 2018 12:57 PM (EyPfd)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l1GvDWtccI

Posted by: Sponge at June 04, 2018 01:00 PM (Zz0t1)

166 I shouldn't be punished for what I think.

And yet, if I think I can fly and step off a tall building, I'm punished most harshly.

Damn gravity!

Posted by: Axeman at June 04, 2018 01:00 PM (vDqXW)

167 Nancy Pelosi on Twitter:

The right to be free from persecution & discrimination because of who they are or whom they love is the most fundamental right of every American. The Supreme Court's Masterpiece Cakeshop decision fails to uphold equality.
---------------------

Wow, so completely unaware it's astounding.

Exactly what does Pelosi think was happening to the bakers?
Posted by: Blake

Why would you think she cares?
They were fundies.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 04, 2018 01:00 PM (na0uG)

168
The right to be free from persecution discrimination because
of who they are or whom they love is the most fundamental right of every
American.

----

Unless you love Jesus.

Right??

Posted by: fixerupper at June 04, 2018 01:00 PM (8XRCm)

169 The final Antichrist will promote the final "Beast/King of the North" that the Bible warns against.

Jon Snow is not a beast. He's dreamy.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 04, 2018 01:00 PM (fuK7c)

170 *of not are in my last post.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 04, 2018 01:00 PM (FTXAT)

171 138 No one took Trump's campaign seriously until well into 2016 when he started winning one state after another for the nom.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:56 PM

I think both Parties did. We see the BS public polls, they do internal polling that I suspect is usually accurate. Trump started well and popped on everyone's radar early. They had the crosshairs on him early.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 04, 2018 01:00 PM (0tfLf)

172 Does this mean Muslims don't have to wax tranny balls anymore?

Posted by: Guzalot at June 04, 2018 01:00 PM (prSvo)

173 153 "Beast/King of the North,"

-
And Obama comes from Chicago.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

Some schools of thought see Prince Charles being the King of the North. He has stated that he doesn't want to know as "The Defender of the Faith" one of his titles as King. But, as "Defender of the Faiths".

Posted by: wrg500 at June 04, 2018 01:00 PM (Bdeb0)

174 I suspect there are quite a few gays who do not want to participate in bullying activities, like targeting bakers and florists, and do not appreciate any expectation that they approve of the bullying.

Posted by: Emmie at June 04, 2018 01:01 PM (/A+Cl)

175 Now all Melissa's Cakes needs to do in Oregon is demonstrate hostility and animus toward them by the Oregon Civil Rights commission and rip the state a new one.

You are aware that the Malachy prophesy is complete and utter BS, yes?

I preferred their crunch myself.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 04, 2018 01:01 PM (39g3+)

176 The truth of this case is that it is the *baker* who has been punished and discriminated against for his beliefs and lifestyle.

But everything is opposite in Satanic Lib Land.

Posted by: Mega at June 04, 2018 01:01 PM (leYhS)

177 Not sure on ramifications of the decision.

I'm awaiting David French's opinion. Our moral compass.

Posted by: Hands at June 04, 2018 01:01 PM (EzdLW)

178 141
Cake Girl.

I just now noticed her shoes were off in the background.

In the kitchen.... barefoot.

Bunk.
Posted by: fixerupper at June 04, 2018
*
*
Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence. I'd like to picture Cake Girl barefoot that way too, but the shoes *might* belong to someone else in her house or family.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 04, 2018 01:01 PM (G+x7t)

179 162 This reasoning is why practitioners are pedophilia and incest will be the next groups pressing for special rights.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 04, 2018 12:59 PM (FTXAT)

And it certainly helps their case that both things are key parts of Islam.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 04, 2018 01:01 PM (WDCYi)

180 This site is nearly impossible to comment on with apple devices. Just not worth the irritation

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (6eRMo)

181 99 A guy wearing an FBI cap and I am not kidding. He explained that he was not actually with the FBI, which was no surprise to me.
Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (md3fh)

You'd think he'd be embarrassed to wear an FBI cap in public. They haven't exactly covered themselves with glory lately.

Posted by: rickl at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (xjiRE)

182
I suspect there are quite a few gays who do not want to participate in
bullying activities, like targeting bakers and florists, and do not
appreciate any expectation that they approve of the bullying.

Posted by: Emmie at June 04, 2018 01:01 PM (/A+Cl)
Yes there are... they are in the minority.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (FTXAT)

183 The "whole point of America", to paraphrase Pelosi, is this:

Let's say, hypothetically, a gay couple goes to every bakery in a fifty mile radius for a wedding cake, and they all say "get lost!"

The remedy is not to run to the State and cry for help.

The remedy is to recognize a massive business opportunity with a built in fifty-mile-wide moat, and open your own bakery catering (literally) to the market share you represent. You can even refuse to make hetero wedding cakes if you want.

Well, that's how I see it anyways.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (AURKQ)

184 Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence. I'd like to picture Cake Girl barefoot that way too, but the shoes *might* belong to someone else in her house or family.

Shhhh don't ruin the fantasy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (39g3+)

185 So, how many thousands of dollars was Jack Phillips out? And of course, he can sue the Colorado Civil Rights Commission and recoup his loses, right? Normal people don't win if they can be financially destroyed and they don't have recourse to loses and punitive damages.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (9BLnV)

186 Not so fast. Hawaiian Judge number 5 has said that the Supreme Court is unconstitutional.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 04, 2018 12:53 PM (7ZVPa)

Give it a day or so, #5 will be under 10 ft of hot lava and no longerva problem.

Posted by: tbodie at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (1QQfO)

187 This site is nearly impossible to comment on with apple devices. Just not worth the irritation
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (6eRMo)

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My $80.00 Droid Turbo 2 does just fine.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (8XRCm)

188 You are aware that the Malachy prophesy is complete and utter BS, yes?
Posted by: tcn in AK

I don't believe or disbelieve in Malachy. But I do find things interesting in the realm of biblical prophecy.

Posted by: wrg500 at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (Bdeb0)

189 Why would you think she cares?
They were fundies.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 04, 2018 01:00 PM (na0uG)

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Oh, I know the woman doesn't care. But the tweet so perfectly encapsulates everything that is wrong with the leftist dogma it's almost admirable.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 04, 2018 01:03 PM (qC1Sy)

190 >>This site is nearly impossible to comment on with apple devices. Just not worth the irritation

I have zero problems. I even have these &&&&&&

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 01:03 PM (/tuJf)

191 The final Antichrist will promote the final "Beast/King of the North" that the Bible warns against.

Jon Snow is not a beast. He's dreamy.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 04, 2018 01:00 PM

Whatever I touch
Turns to snow in my clutch
IIIIII'mm too much!

Posted by: Snow Miser at June 04, 2018 01:03 PM (EzdLW)

192 Emmie, just heard a gay man on Rush L who said just that. He hates the militant gays because he wants a happy relationship with his husband's family and with his neighbors, and wants to everybody to do what they want in private. The militants are just making the enmity worse.

What a concept!
BTW has Don Lemon started crying yet?

Posted by: PJ at June 04, 2018 01:03 PM (qlTN9)

193 They re-wrote the Constitutional protections by using Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists.***
Ironically, in that letter Jefferson opines that the state can't discriminate against someone because they don't like his religious beliefs. Baptists were the "far reich wing religious nut cases" of their day. Using it to justify the government discriminating against someone because you don't like his religious beliefs is...just plain wrong.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 04, 2018 01:04 PM (Z8FFX)

194 145 So I guess this ruling is just telling the Colorado Civil Rights Commission TO PRETEND better that you are not out to crucify religious bakers.

You know, moar Kabuki theater before you hang the baker in your kangaroo commission.
Posted by: Slip & Slide at June 04, 2018 12:56 PM (TSwVa)

"We haven't pre-decided this case, because that would be wrong. Oh yes. But, after careful consideration of the case, we come to the conclusion that we entered the room with."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 04, 2018 01:04 PM (TRbOb)

195 How long will it be before another gay couple to goes Masterpiece Cake Shop for a re-run of this escapade? I say 10 days, max.

The Progs are not going to take this passively. And the Colorado commission can get to exactly the same decision while publicly saying all the right things this time around.

Posted by: Gref at June 04, 2018 01:04 PM (AMIL/)

196

I wish SCROTUS, er, SCOTUS (I always get that mixed up, tee-hee) would put on programing more in keeping with my needs and interests. These cakefags are boring... how about a good show on churchyard cemetary transracial transexual transgender dildo bondage? Now that's interesting!

Posted by: Shemp Smith at June 04, 2018 01:04 PM (AyGZp)

197 Nancy Pelosi on Twitter:

The right to be free from persecution & discrimination because of who they are or whom they love is the most fundamental right of every American. The Supreme Court's Masterpiece Cakeshop decision fails to uphold equality.
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Posted by: rickb223 at June 04, 2018 01:00 PM (na0uG)
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Pedophiles should not be persecuted for who they are and whom they love.

Posted by: Axeman at June 04, 2018 01:04 PM (vDqXW)

198 You are aware that the Malachy prophesy is complete and utter BS, yes?
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 04, 2018 12:59 PM (7UW64)

Oh, darn. I was waiting for Pope Francis to walk on water, still the storm outside of Jack Straw's boat, and feed everybody who posts at ASHQ with a few fishes and loaves.

(And I hope you know, I'm not indicating any disrespect to the RCC by this comment; I just don't think Pope Francis is the anti Christ. He's just a leftist believer in Christ.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 01:04 PM (vw6r3)

199
I'd like to picture Cake Girl barefoot that way too, but the shoes *might* belong to someone else in her house or family.

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Well.... I lke to picture her barefoot AND Porky Pigging in the kitchen.

Who are you to judge??... Mr Judgey Judge McJudgerson????

Posted by: fixerupper at June 04, 2018 01:04 PM (8XRCm)

200 Not so fast. Hawaiian Judge number 5 has said that the Supreme Court is unconstitutional.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 04, 2018 12:53 PM (7ZVPa)

Give it a day or so, #5 will be under 10 ft of hot lava and no longerva problem.
Posted by: tbodie at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (1QQfO

Nonsense! I'll just rule volcanic eruptions to be unconstitutional.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge No. 5 at June 04, 2018 01:05 PM (E/U1b)

201 The remedy is to recognize a massive business opportunity with a built in fifty-mile-wide moat, and open your own bakery catering (literally) to the market share you represent. You can even refuse to make hetero wedding cakes if you want.

Well, that's how I see it anyways.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (AURKQ)

Yeah, that business model will earn big bucks out in West Texas and rural Idaho!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 04, 2018 01:05 PM (9BLnV)

202 It's kind of annoying the court actually had to write in crayon that Christian worship and values are protected under the Constitution, same as the Sodomites.
Like there is nothing on our history to indicate Christianity holds sincere religious beliefs.
By the way, those beliefs include not killing the unborn.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 04, 2018 01:05 PM (VpIIl)

203 I believe this may be the first court decision based on animus against Christians.

This may have much deeper ramifications.

Posted by: MAGA at June 04, 2018 01:06 PM (GTScb)

204 The One Trick Donkey may be wearing a little thin.

Maxine Waters plays to empty seats as only 10 millennials show up to event...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 01:06 PM (+y/Ru)

205 Imagine a case where the police bust into a black family's house without a warrant, find drugs and arrest the father. The family sues the grounds that The police performed an unlawful search. The case gets to the Supreme Court and the court rules that yes, this was unlawful. But because in the process they beat up the family and are on record calling them racial epithets.

IMO, this is exactly what Kennedy did here.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 04, 2018 01:06 PM (mk7Bj)

206 Gay Nazis everywhere burst into tears of rage.

Posted by: Warden at June 04, 2018 01:06 PM (MZ8Zz)

207 How long will it be before another gay couple to goes Masterpiece Cake Shop for a re-run of this escapade? I say 10 days, max.

Didn't he go out of business?

So, victory, yay?

Sue the crap out them.

Posted by: blaster at June 04, 2018 01:06 PM (Z5y53)

208 197 Pedophiles should not be persecuted for who they are and whom they love.
Posted by: Axeman at June 04, 2018 01:04 PM (vDqXW)

If Child Brides are good enough for the prophet Muhammad, they're good enough for anyone!

Posted by: Hikaru at June 04, 2018 01:06 PM (WDCYi)

209 179 162 This reasoning is why practitioners are pedophilia and incest will be the next groups pressing for special rights.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 04, 2018 12:59 PM (FTXAT)

And it certainly helps their case that both things are key parts of Islam.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 04, 2018 01:01 PM (WDCYi)

And don't forget bestiality. It's just another kind of "love."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 04, 2018 01:07 PM (TRbOb)

210 180 This site is nearly impossible to comment on with apple devices. Just not worth the irritation
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (6eRMo)

Doesn't bother me any, & I even get ampersands.

Posted by: rickl at June 04, 2018 01:07 PM (xjiRE)

211 You are aware that the Malachy prophesy is complete and utter BS, yes?

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 04, 2018 12:59 PM (7UW64)

Count Malachi was a prophet?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 04, 2018 01:07 PM (hLRSq)

212 And I hope you know, I'm not indicating any disrespect to the RCC by this comment; I just don't think Pope Francis is the anti Christ. He's just a leftist believer in Christ.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 01:04 PM (vw6r3)

Leftist Christians don't believe in Christ. They just think he's a swell guy! Well, he did lose his temper in the Temple once, but other than that, solid!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 04, 2018 01:07 PM (9BLnV)

213 This site is nearly impossible to comment on with apple devices. Just not worth the irritation
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (6eRMo)
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All computing tasks are more difficult/impossible to perform with apple devices. Just not worth the irritation.

FIFY.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 04, 2018 01:07 PM (AzW6q)

214 I think the ruling could be very powerful - losing because they acted like a**holes. The left can't NOT act like a**holes anymore with their lunacy and angry hysterics after catching Trump Derangement Syndrome. How many more cases will the left lose just because of their horrible SJW behavior?

Posted by: Tommy at June 04, 2018 01:07 PM (yEAdf)

215 BTW, I was doing a Good Samaritan favor to the faux FIB guy who I didn't know from Adam and Eve. My good deed was rewarded by the news that I was damned to eternal suffering. In the end he tried to give me a tip for my good deed. I refused, being a Good Samaritan and all.

Also BTW, while I do not believe in an afterlife I definitely believe in powers greater than we can understand; in the truth of Judeo-Christian teachings; and that we make our personal Heavens or Hells right here on Earth through how we live our lives.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 01:07 PM (md3fh)

216 I close my eyes and see Cake Girl wearing nothing but frosting. Maybe some pasties.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 04, 2018 01:08 PM (VpIIl)

217 Finally, some good news.

Cancer-preventing pizza?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 01:08 PM (+y/Ru)

218 I think this is broader than people realize. The basis of Masterpiece's victory was the breach of his constitutional right to freedom of religion, and the Commission's open animus was only the evidence that it was his religious rights that were being infringed.

They should have looked at whether it was an honest religious belief and ruled in his favor no matter the behavior of the Commission.

Would they have had a different holding if the Commission had been sympathetic to his honestly held religious beliefs while ruling against him. No.

They ruled that the Commission's behavior and attitude was an attack on his religious beliefs when it was baking the cake that would have been the true attack.

People shouldn't be forced to like your religious beliefs or conscious or not hate them; they just need to not force you to act against it.

In essence they did uphold freedom of religion (as opposed to freedom of association for example) which was good, but they were quite unnecessarily mealy-mouthed about it.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 04, 2018 01:08 PM (kfcYC)

219 The judicial system remains a post-constitutional farce, and alien in spirit - individual freedom, the only basis for the American system at all levels, is hardly even a factor.

And for Kennedy - who has his own special accomplishment and check-mark as who single-handedly shredded the constitution WRT the treaty power, and blazed new trails of lawless tyranny with his idiotic slander of the majority of our society in the marriage redefinition debacle - to be writing for the majority is unintentional and very dark humor.

And ace how about that - an unambiguous vital executive power (discretion to limit admissions to the US based on national security considerations) remains, 16 months after the first judicial absurdity, suspended. Based on ludicrous lawless crap like presidential motivations, and the "standing" of ...... people who don't like a policy being implemented in accord with clear presidential authority.

There is no "judicial" system, it's just an unelected legislature for dummies, and the very antithesis of the essential constitutional principle - the least unaccountable branch having the supreme power over the others.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 04, 2018 01:08 PM (QDnY+)

220 How do you get ampersands? I use a Mac. Let's see what happens if I type an .

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 01:09 PM (md3fh)

221 This site is nearly impossible to comment on with apple devices. Just not worth the irritation
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM

That's why El Rushbo never posts.

Posted by: Hands at June 04, 2018 01:09 PM (EzdLW)

222 Don't worry we are pouring millions of dollars into overturning this deeply wrong SCOTUS decision.

Posted by: Gaystapo at June 04, 2018 01:09 PM (pw+jk)

223 Posted by: tcn in AK at June 04, 2018 12:55 PM (7UW64)

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Thank you. Well said.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 04, 2018 01:09 PM (MIKMs)

224 Leftist Christians don't believe in Christ. They just think he's a swell guy! Well, he did lose his temper in the Temple once, but other than that, solid!
Posted by: Anonymous White Male

That's the one part that they do like. The gag is that he's "attacking bankers". Noooo, he was chasing money changers out of the Temple. To a leftist, any lie will do.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 04, 2018 01:09 PM (OOUHd)

225 180 This site is nearly impossible to comment on with apple devices. Just not worth the irritation
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (6eRMo)

I never have any problems and use MacBook, iPhone, and iPad to comment.

Posted by: Emmie at June 04, 2018 01:09 PM (/A+Cl)

226 Ace, go see if you can find out what Jake Tapper's take on this is....

Posted by: Sponge at June 04, 2018 01:09 PM (Zz0t1)

227 And don't forget bestiality. It's just another kind of "love."

"Ve do not consider zis illegal"
--Germany

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 04, 2018 01:10 PM (39g3+)

228 So sad, no ampersand. Must be arcane secret knowledge revealed only to the enlightened.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 01:10 PM (md3fh)

229 I close my eyes and see Cake Girl wearing nothing but frosting. Maybe some pasties.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 04, 2018 01:08 PM

--

Look again, that was tasty frosting.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 04, 2018 01:10 PM (7ZVPa)

230 Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 04, 2018 01:07 PM (9BLnV)

Sure they do. Depends on what you mean by leftists. I know a lot of Christians who are much more liberal than I am and they believe in Christ. I think if you were to ask Pope Francis he would tell you that's he's in line with major RC theory regarding Jesus as Lord,d his resurrection from the dead and his presence in the Holy Spirit..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 01:10 PM (vw6r3)

231 Now, I'm hungry for cake.

Posted by: Archer at June 04, 2018 01:10 PM (gmo/4)

232
210 180 This site is nearly impossible to comment on with apple devices. Just not worth the irritation
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at June 04, 2018 01:02 PM (6eRMo)

Doesn't bother me any, & I even get ampersands.

doesn't bother me, either, although i do think that whoever designed the cut-n-paste selecty thingie for ios needs a swift kick in the shins.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 04, 2018 01:10 PM (xGZ+b)

233 iPad: &&&&&

Posted by: Emmie at June 04, 2018 01:10 PM (/A+Cl)

234 Theology=not theory.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 01:10 PM (vw6r3)

235 A win is a win.

Posted by: eleven at June 04, 2018 01:10 PM (+lOpA)

236 214 I think the ruling could be very powerful - losing because they acted like a**holes. The left can't NOT act like a**holes anymore with their lunacy and angry hysterics after catching Trump Derangement Syndrome. How many more cases will the left lose just because of their horrible SJW behavior?
Posted by: Tommy at June 04, 2018 01:07 PM (yEAdf)

I'd like to think that that's true, but frankly I doubt it. I think they'll just keep it on the down low and wind up doing exactly the same thing, just not on the record.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 04, 2018 01:11 PM (TRbOb)

237 Posted by: rhomboid at June 04, 2018 01:08 PM (QDnY+)

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^^^
What that guy said.

Posted by: Slip & Slide at June 04, 2018 01:11 PM (TSwVa)

238 "216 I close my eyes and see Cake Girl wearing nothing but frosting. Maybe some pasties.
Posted by: Marcus T"

Watch it there buddy!!

Posted by: Ryan at June 04, 2018 01:11 PM (OD2ni)

239 The most important aspect of the ruling, of all rulings really, is if it creates enough of a gray area in order to guarantee lots of work for lawyers and judges well into the future.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 04, 2018 01:11 PM (4ErVI)

240 although i do think that whoever designed the cut-n-paste selecty thingie for ios needs a swift kick in the shins.
Posted by: Anachronda at June 04, 2018 01:10 PM (xGZ+b)

I've been using Apple products long enough that I remember when the selector actually worked. Those were the days.

Posted by: Emmie at June 04, 2018 01:12 PM (/A+Cl)

241 & and &

let them eat c&ke.

Posted by: eleven at June 04, 2018 01:12 PM (+lOpA)

242 Emmie, what's the secret? Is it like the 8 + ) thing that makes

? IOW, a combination of keystrokes that makes an ampersand?

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 01:12 PM (md3fh)

243 It sure seems to me our supreme court is populated by serious cowards.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 04, 2018 01:12 PM (o2MD2)

244 >>Imagine a case where the police bust into a black family's house without a warrant, find drugs and arrest the father. The family sues the grounds that The police performed an unlawful search. The case gets to the Supreme Court and the court rules that yes, this was unlawful. But because in the process they beat up the family and are on record calling them racial epithets.

>>IMO, this is exactly what Kennedy did here.

IMO it's a bit different.

It's more like the state of Colorado implemented a policy that said they didn't have to take into consideration the Constitutional rights of the black family when instituting their commission and allowed the cops to illegally break into their house and arrest them so they had nor right to arrest them and the evidence is meaningless.

I don't know why the rush of so many on the right to talk down this decision. It's sounds pretty damn big to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 01:12 PM (/tuJf)

245 SAME THING.
Posted by: The Left's SAME_THING Rubberstamp

Thread winner.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 04, 2018 01:12 PM (zfrbv)

246 &

Posted by: steevy at June 04, 2018 01:12 PM (LiyEm)

247 Got this from Hikaru:

Most
Applications
Crash.
If
Not,
Then
Operating
System
Hangs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 04, 2018 01:12 PM (AzW6q)

248 I would have expected Benedict Roberts to declare the cake a tax the baker was compelled to pay ..

Posted by: ShainS at June 04, 2018 01:12 PM (Wsx0M)

249
This is crazy. Leftist NY AG wants to change law to go after Dinesh D'Souza again. "Double Jeopardy Loophole"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOiQ5rWsxr0

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 04, 2018 01:12 PM (r+sAi)

250 Ironically, in that letter Jefferson opines that the state can't discriminate against someone because they don't like his religious beliefs. Baptists were the "far reich wing religious nut cases" of their day. Using it to justify the government discriminating against someone because you don't like his religious beliefs is...just plain wrong.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 04, 2018 01:04 PM (Z8FFX)
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Exactly, but centrists will tell you that "Free exercise is not practicable" and simply ignore all implications of Jefferson's "wall" as stated, but will still try to get you to pledge allegiance to the "Wall of Separation" as some sort of fundamental cornerstone of the republic--when it wasn't ratified by anybody.

Which is why I range from bait-and-switch to *swindle*. It is an absolute swindle, which shows the UTMOST contempt modern government has for their limits into personal decisions.

Posted by: Axeman at June 04, 2018 01:13 PM (vDqXW)

251
Cheap Android

⛹⛲⚒

☦⛽♥

Posted by: fixerupper at June 04, 2018 01:13 PM (8XRCm)

252 This is a HUGE win and that it was 7-2 is going to make it more difficult for the Left to do the out of touch and this is not who we are schtick.

Is there still significant work to be done to hammer home as clearly as possible that religious beliefs that homosexuality is morally wrong and that gay marriage is improper are not per se bigotry? Yes. But this is a major, major win.

I'm so happy about this.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at June 04, 2018 12:50 PM (mf5HN)

++++

I disagree, though I haven't read the decision either. But, from what I read of it, SCOTUS merely chastised the Colorado Civil Rights Commission for their anti-religion rhetoric. For the individual in this case, yes, a huge victory. But what of others similarly situated? If the Colorado Civil Rights Commission is smarter next time, and doesn't put their anti-religion bias on display, what happens then? It's anybody's guess.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 04, 2018 01:13 PM (pvjTE)

253 This site is nearly impossible to comment on with apple devices. Just not worth the irritation
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam

???

I only use an iPhone 6S+.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 04, 2018 01:13 PM (na0uG)

254 I'd like to think that that's true, but frankly I
doubt it. I think they'll just keep it on the down low and wind up doing
exactly the same thing, just not on the record.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 04, 2018 01:11 PM (TRbOb)

Kennedy's trying to split the baby notwithstanding, there is no way to force someone (or attempt to force someone) to go against their religious beliefs without disparaging those religious beliefs. Even if it is in deed rather than word, it is still disparagement.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 04, 2018 01:13 PM (FTXAT)

255 The bad news:

Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

Stupid shark took "eat a bag of dicks" literally.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 01:14 PM (+y/Ru)

256 Its a Nutless Decision. Look it up.
Posted by: Gumby at June 04, 2018 12:38 PM

Sometimes you feel like a nut & sometimes you don't.

Posted by: Mounds Bar at June 04, 2018 01:14 PM (ctuyM)

257 This isnt really a win for our side... all the Supremes did was tell the left that if they intend to discriminate against Christians / Religious Conservatives, that they must do so in a much less blatant manner, where future rulings can at least hide behind a fig leaf of impartiality when deciding against religious freedoms next time...

Posted by: I Smell Something Rotten at June 04, 2018 01:15 PM (MmjfY)

258 Maybe I'll check the ads in the back of the local free press rag, see what the bakery ads have evolved into. Or I'll just let my imagination run around in a flowery Alpine field like Julie Andrews.

Posted by: Burger Chef at June 04, 2018 01:15 PM (RuIsu)

259
They should have looked at whether it was an honest religious belief
and ruled in his favor no matter the behavior of the Commission.
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How deep is your 'honest' religious belief. No religious tests.

From my fast skim of Kennedy's opinion, he also uses 'or philosophical' to avoid the religious flavor.

Posted by: mustbequantum at June 04, 2018 01:15 PM (MIKMs)

260 The bad news:

Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

Stupid shark took "eat a bag of dicks" literally.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
What? Is this real?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 04, 2018 01:15 PM (OOUHd)

261 Our brave Justices are mostly adept at punting. They should try out for the NFL.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 04, 2018 01:16 PM (o2MD2)

262 But what about the penumbras? Have they considered those?

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 01:16 PM (md3fh)

263 let them eat c&ke.

Posted by: eleven at June 04, 2018 01:12 PM (+lOpA)
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Let them eat cuck.

Posted by: Marie And Twanette at June 04, 2018 01:16 PM (vDqXW)

264 All computing tasks are more difficult/impossible to perform with apple devices. Just not worth the irritation.

FIFY.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 04, 2018 01:07 PM (AzW6q)

I've heard others say this. What tasks are more difficult or impossible? I use both regular computers and Mac. I've never noticed anything I couldn't do on my Mac (or anything that was more difficult).

Posted by: Emmie at June 04, 2018 01:16 PM (/A+Cl)

265 iPad: &&&&&
Posted by: Emmie

iPhone 6S+ & Dolphin browser = &&&&&&&&

Posted by: rickb223 at June 04, 2018 01:16 PM (na0uG)

266
I still think the decision is bigger than baking cakes, it prevents attacks by Leftists on forcing gay weddings on religions entities.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 04, 2018 01:16 PM (r+sAi)

267 255 The bad news:

Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

Well. He died doing what he loved....

Posted by: eleven at June 04, 2018 01:17 PM (+lOpA)

268 I use Firefox. Is that a problem with ampersands?

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 01:17 PM (md3fh)

269 The left can't NOT act like a**holes anymore with their lunacy and angry hysterics after catching Trump Derangement Syndrome. How many more cases will the left lose just because of their horrible SJW behavior?

Judging by their behavior with Trump, yeah they'll just get worse and worse and more shrill and insistent on the theory that they only lose because they aren't getting their message out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 04, 2018 01:17 PM (39g3+)

270 Seriously, we *will* write FAG on your cake--no charge.

Posted by: Ficticious Kroger Store Bakery at June 04, 2018 01:17 PM (vDqXW)

271

The Court is still an ass.

Posted by: Soothi With Just An i Because It's Cutesy at June 04, 2018 01:17 PM (owxI7)

272 "The Civil Rights Commission's treatment of his case has some elements of a clear and impermissible hostility toward the sincere religious beliefs that motivated his objection."

Uhm. Isn't Kennedy the one who dismissed thousands of years of Judeo-Christian teaching on homosexuality and marriage as "an excuse for bigotry" or something along those lines?

Posted by: girldog at June 04, 2018 01:17 PM (g5YYQ)

273 This is crazy. Leftist NY AG wants to change law to go after Dinesh D'Souza again. "Double Jeopardy Loophole"

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Shorter: constitutional rights! Fvck that shit.

It's OK, though. He's only fighting the greater evil of racism.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 01:17 PM (+y/Ru)

274 Rule is never get a BJ from a shark.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 01:18 PM (md3fh)

275 Well. He died doing what he loved....
Posted by: eleven at June 04, 2018 01:17 PM (+lOpA)

He loved getting his dick bitten off?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 04, 2018 01:18 PM (o2MD2)

276 Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

Stupid shark took "eat a bag of dicks" literally.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 01:14 PM (+y/Ru)

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The penis is the tastiest part of a teen!!

Posted by: Shep Smith at June 04, 2018 01:18 PM (pw+jk)

277
Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

Stupid shark took "eat a bag of dicks" literally.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
What? Is this real?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 04, 2018 01:15 PM (OOUHd)

++++

It's up at Drudge. Shark attacked swimmer. Got part of his leg and his penis. Swimmer bleed to death. Tragedy, but, no, there is not a new breed of shark out there targeting penises.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 04, 2018 01:18 PM (pvjTE)

278 You are free to not bake cakes for ~~fags~~ Alex the Chick if you don't want to bake cakes for ~~fags~~ Alex the Chick. Freedom!

Posted by: Gumby at June 04, 2018 12:32 PM (2LelM)

FIFY

It's the same thing.

Maybe you should watch the gratuitous fag-bashing and use your brain to figure out the difference between homosexuals and the militant leftists who use homosexuals as a tool against Western culture.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 04, 2018 01:18 PM (wYseH)

279 Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

I know teenage boys are horny, but getting a beejer from a shark is not a good idea.

Posted by: rickl at June 04, 2018 01:18 PM (xjiRE)

280 Those of us with ampersands have them because our strength is the strength of ten, & our hearts are pure.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 04, 2018 01:18 PM (ctuyM)

281 It happened to Barbara Stanwyck!

Posted by: Burger Chef at June 04, 2018 01:18 PM (RuIsu)

282 260 The bad news:

Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

Stupid shark took "eat a bag of dicks" literally.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
What? Is this real?
Posted by: Blue Hen

Mmmm, watch the teeth dear. AHHHHH, DAMN!!!!

Posted by: wrg500 at June 04, 2018 01:18 PM (Bdeb0)

283 269 The left can't NOT act like a**holes anymore with their lunacy and angry hysterics after catching Trump Derangement Syndrome. How many more cases will the left lose just because of their horrible SJW behavior?

Judging by their behavior with Trump, yeah they'll just get worse and worse and more shrill and insistent on the theory that they only lose because they aren't getting their message out.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 04, 2018 01:17 PM (39g3+)

Getting a ruling overturned does not mean a thing to Judges...

It takes a whole metric F Ton of bad behavior, before anyone even speaks directly to them... let alone FIRE them.

Posted by: Don Q at June 04, 2018 01:18 PM (NgKpN)

284 >>Well. He died doing what he loved....

I few years ago I was in Cape Town. Picked up the local newspaper at my hotel and the lead story was about a teen that was killed by a shark while surfing. His father was quoted in the newspaper as saying "He died doing what he loved.".

My first thought was the kid loved being bit in half by a shark?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 01:19 PM (/tuJf)

285 Our brave Justices are mostly adept at punting.

Its kind of their job to be as precise and careful as possible to have as little impact on society and law as they can: to decide only the specific case without huge sweeping changes. Its when they make those big monumental decisions that they've gone wrong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 04, 2018 01:19 PM (39g3+)

286 Judging by their behavior with Trump, yeah they'll just get worse and worse and more shrill and insistent on the theory that they only lose because they aren't getting their message out.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 04, 2018 01:17 PM (39g3+)
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Unfortunately, they are the ones most likely to lose it.

They're teaching functional neuroticism and word-cleanliness to our kids.

Posted by: Axeman at June 04, 2018 01:19 PM (vDqXW)

287 The baker didn't build that business so how could he be responsible for offending anyone? &

Posted by: Drc at June 04, 2018 01:19 PM (lyaJC)

288 What? Is this real?

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In, or rather off, Brazil.

https://bit.ly/2J94J1Q

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 01:19 PM (+y/Ru)

289 There really is a Platinum membership in AOS, isn't there? I probably have the cardboard level one. Damn one percenters!

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (md3fh)

290 The bad news:

Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

Stupid shark took "eat a bag of dicks" literally.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 01:14 PM

How did the shark even find it? You know, because of shrinkage and all.

Posted by: George Costanza at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (EzdLW)

291 The sharks friends were playing a prank on him. Probably told him that human penis would improve his shark virility. Shark is going to get laughed at when he goes back to his shark friends.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (mk7Bj)

292 >>Which is why I range from bait-and-switch to *swindle*. It is an absolute swindle, which shows the UTMOST contempt modern government has for their limits into personal decisions.
Posted by: Axeman at June 04, 2018 01:13 PM (vDqXW)

Concur. Kennedy should be made to smell the glove.

Posted by: Zod at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (Bdeb0)

293 268 I use Firefox. Is that a problem with ampersands?

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 01:17 PM (md3fh)

++++

Yes. If you want to use ampersands with Firefox, you have to block javascript at the HQ.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (pvjTE)

294 I disagree, though I haven't read the decision
either. But, from what I read of it, SCOTUS merely chastised the
Colorado Civil Rights Commission for their anti-religion rhetoric. For
the individual in this case, yes, a huge victory. But what of others
similarly situated? If the Colorado Civil Rights Commission is smarter
next time, and doesn't put their anti-religion bias on display, what
happens then? It's anybody's guess.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 04, 2018 01:13 PM (pvjTE)

I understand your pessimism, but common sense will most likely prevail. The law is written to keep things fair. If you let one side demand that you "bake the cake" then the other side can too. Even the most insane lefties can surely see that, especially now that they realize they are NOT going win every election from here on in.Anyway, it really doesn't matter. The donation trick* that somebody came up with works pretty well no matter what the law, and then the free market will make its own mind up.*Meaning, I have a cake shop but don't want to make a gay wedding cake, or an NRA cake, or whatever it is. You just tell that client that yeah, I'll bake the cake, but if you make me I'm donating ALL your money from the fee to Anti Prop 8 groups, or the Clinton Foundation, or whatever. Boom. I think problem solved in 99 out of 100 cases.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (oyCqX)

295 ****** Kennedy's trying to split the baby notwithstanding, there is no way to force someone (or attempt to force someone) to go against their religious beliefs without disparaging those religious beliefs. Even if it is in deed rather than word, it is still disparagement.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner
IANAL. Willowed theory - these commissions will eventually start citing Hate Speech statutes.
They still say "We took the defendant's claim of conscience objection into consideration, but also note that the specific objection has been deemed Hate speech by statute. "OK, Kennedy, now what are you going to decree?

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (jeY22)

296 The MFM is reporting that this was a narrow decision.

7-2 is narrow?

Posted by: Cheri at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (oiNtH)

297 I've heard others say this. What tasks are more difficult or impossible? I use both regular computers and Mac. I've never noticed anything I couldn't do on my Mac (or anything that was more difficult).

Apple makes 70% of the customary tasks for 70% of the customary users easy, at the expense of making 30% of the necessary tasks for 30% of the users damn near impossible. And, per friends and family who've done software development inside Apple, they have vanishingly near zero QA.

Of course, that depends to some extent on the platform and the vendor, and the phone/iOS world has taken some of that control away from Apple. They do have nice iOS dev tools compared to what has been something of a mess in the Android world.

Posted by: JEM at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (0KBj7)

298 The bad news:

Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

Stupid shark took "eat a bag of dicks" literally.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 01:14 PM

How did the shark even find it? You know, because of shrinkage and all.
Posted by: George Costanza

Warm water.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (na0uG)

299 Swimmer bleed to death.

Even today with modern medical science and the wonders doctors can perform, if someone rips out that artery in your thigh, there's not a lot they can do: death within seconds.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (39g3+)

300 I've heard others say this. What tasks are more difficult or impossible? I use both regular computers and Mac. I've never noticed anything I couldn't do on my Mac (or anything that was more difficult).
----
I am a PC guy, but I've always used Macs in a professional capacity.

You may not notice the difference if you're not using very intensive processes (however even basic programs like Office have way more problems on Mac).

If you're running graphics software - you'll see it. Programs constantly crashing out. Constantly. Poorly developed interface and hotkeys by comparison to PC. Power users will encounter a much less accessible operating system. It's friendly, but much more difficult to use beneath the "surface" interface, which is inexcusable considering that the UNIX core of the Mac OS is quite versatile.

At this point, the next time I am provisioned a new machine, I'm gonna push HARD for a PC. A Microsoft Surface Studio, if I can make the hard sell.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (AzW6q)

301 Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

Stupid shark took "eat a bag of dicks" literally.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
What? Is this real?

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 04, 2018 01:15 PM (OOUHd)

++++

It's up at Drudge. Shark attacked swimmer. Got part of his leg and his penis. Swimmer bleed to death. Tragedy, but, no, there is not a new breed of shark out there targeting penises.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous

So someone was killed by a shark, and wasn't contending for a Darwin award, and people are making bj jokes? isn't it bad enough that this person's life was cut short and this is how he'll be remembered?

This is ignorant behavior people.

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 04, 2018 01:21 PM (OOUHd)

302 I'd like to think that that's true, but frankly I doubt it. I think they'll just keep it on the down low and wind up doing exactly the same thing, just not on the record.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 04, 2018 01:11 PM (TRbOb)

Not on the record? I believe the Commission was being directed to use a strict scrutiny test to see if their decision was infringing on the right of religious expression. That will require that the correct test be articulated by the Commission and that there be plenty of facts on the record that support infringement of religious expression. And those strict scrutiny tests are not easy to get around. And everything will have to be articulated on the record or it is remanded again.

The Commission was given instructions and they will follow unless they want to be reversed again.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 04, 2018 01:21 PM (hLRSq)

303 He loved getting his dick bitten off?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 04, 2018 01:18 PM (o2MD2)
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Everybody's looking for something.

Posted by: Annie Lennox at June 04, 2018 01:21 PM (vDqXW)

304 >>291 The sharks friends were playing a prank on him. Probably told him that human penis would improve his shark virility. Shark is going to get laughed at when he goes back to his shark friends.
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (mk7Bj)

Either that, or he's been tapped into the Sharks.

Posted by: Zod at June 04, 2018 01:21 PM (Bdeb0)

305 I use Firefox. Is that a problem with ampersands?
Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 01:17 PM

Consider Safari.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 04, 2018 01:21 PM (ctuyM)

306 Ah, it's Javascript eh? I will try that. BIAM.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 01:21 PM (md3fh)

307 What? Is this real?

-
In, or rather off, Brazil.

https://bit.ly/2J94J1Q
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 01:19 PM

Next, on River Monsters...

Posted by: Hands at June 04, 2018 01:21 PM (EzdLW)

308 281 It happened to Barbara Stanwyck!
Posted by: Burger Chef at June 04, 2018 01:18 PM (RuIsu)

That's hot.

Posted by: eleven at June 04, 2018 01:21 PM (+lOpA)

309 Its kind of their job to be as precise and careful as possible to have as little impact on society and law as they can: to decide only the specific case without huge sweeping changes. Its when they make those big monumental decisions that they've gone wrong.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 04, 2018 01:19 PM (39g3+)

No, their job is to interpret the constitution as intended by the founders.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 04, 2018 01:22 PM (o2MD2)

310 but, no, there is not a new breed of shark out there targeting penises.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous

Divorce lawyers?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 04, 2018 01:22 PM (na0uG)

311 So now Sonic replaced the two guys in the car ads with two chicks.

Posted by: steevy at June 04, 2018 01:22 PM (LiyEm)

312 279
Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

I know teenage boys are horny, but getting a beejer from a shark is not a good idea.

Posted by: rickl at June 04, 2018 01:18 PM (xjiRE)

Wow, and I thought a girl with braces was a bad idea.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 04, 2018 01:22 PM (jxbfJ)

313 Brazil is just one step down the evolutionary ladder from Australia with things that want to kill you. And the human population is working overtime to even the odds.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 01:22 PM (/tuJf)

314
Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

Stupid shark took "eat a bag of dicks" literally.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 01:14 PM

How did the shark even find it? You know, because of shrinkage and all.
Posted by: George Costanza at June 04, 2018
*
*
Kid was a show-er, not a grow-er. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 04, 2018 01:22 PM (G+x7t)

315 yes yes, all people in all the world have speech and religion which doesn't mean that POTUS doesn't have a right to restrict their entry to the USA.

Unless, you're a hawaain judge who views the consitution as:

1. a suicide pact
or
2. a directive to reshape the USA into an amalgem of every race, creed, and whatnot to reflect the global population (minus whitey, obviously).

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 04, 2018 01:22 PM (FOPyv)

316 The critical passage is where Kennedy quotes the commissioner trashing Christianity, but then Kennedy goes on to note that other bakers who objected to making cakes that offended them were protected by the commission.
The commission now has to treat Christian beliefs as fairly and equally as it did other religions. If a Christian has to bake the cake, a Muslim or Jew has to bake a Miss Piggy birthday cake. Or a gay baker has to make a cake with a quote on Sodom Gomorrah.

The commission does not want to infringe on these other groups' rights (they're minorities, marginalized, whatever).

It just wanted to go after the Christians, and the Court basically said "everyone bakes the cake or no one has to bake the cake".

Posted by: Wethal at June 04, 2018 01:23 PM (3RspO)

317 The solution is simple... its not about a cake but about free speech... A baker (or any service) should not be able to refuse to serve someone based on their race / gender, etc... but they CAN refuse to promote or endorse a specific ideology as part of that service... this would be compelled speech and is just as wrong as (and in fact is of a variation of) censorship... A christian baker cannot be forced to make a cake celebrating homosexuality anymore than a jewish baker can be forced to bake a cake celebrating Hitler / Nazism / The Holocaust...

Posted by: I Smell Something Rotten at June 04, 2018 01:23 PM (MmjfY)

318 Barbara Stanwyk had her penis bitten off by a shark??

Posted by: steevy at June 04, 2018 01:23 PM (LiyEm)

319 311
So now Sonic replaced the two guys in the car ads with two chicks.

Posted by: steevy at June 04, 2018 01:22 PM (LiyEm)

Can they use the "Where's the beef" tag line, or is that trademarked?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 04, 2018 01:23 PM (jxbfJ)

320 Posted by: Blue Hen at June 04, 2018 01:21 PM (OOUHd)

Well, it's ASHQ. They will make a joke about anything related to penises, and the press will of course run with the penis part rather than his whole leg and penis was taken off..

But is a sad story, and I'm sorry for the boy and his family and friends.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 01:23 PM (vw6r3)

321 The sharks friends were playing a prank on him.
Probably told him that human penis would improve his shark virility.
Shark is going to get laughed at when he goes back to his shark friends.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (mk7Bj)

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That shark was Asian.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 04, 2018 01:23 PM (pw+jk)

322 296 The MFM is reporting that this was a narrow decision.

7-2 is narrow?
Posted by: Cheri at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (oiNtH)

They may mean narrow in scope.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 04, 2018 01:23 PM (TRbOb)

323
The fact of the matter is this couple searched out this baker to create the case, it should have been thrown out in the original case. Nuisance lawsuits should be slapped immediately.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 04, 2018 01:23 PM (r+sAi)

324 That shark did to the kid what leftards are trying to do to the whole fukkin' world.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 04, 2018 01:23 PM (o2MD2)

325
This isnt really a win for our side... all the Supremes did was tell the left that if they intend to discriminate against Christians / Religious Conservatives, that they must do so in a much less blatant manner, where future rulings can at least hide behind a fig leaf of impartiality when deciding against religious freedoms next time...

Posted by: I Smell Something Rotten at June 04, 2018 01:15 PM (MmjfY)

I think it's a win because it gives people a legal avenue for defense against the state where there really wasn't one before.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 04, 2018 01:24 PM (10vO4)

326 Can we call Sotomayor and Ginsberg "feckless twats"?

Just asking.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 04, 2018 01:24 PM (CPk08)

327 Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

Cougars are pretty bad also

Posted by: wrg500 at June 04, 2018 01:24 PM (Bdeb0)

328 ***Headlight blinking***
Capo speech police behind the bushes.
***Headlight blinking***

Posted by: Slip & Slide at June 04, 2018 01:24 PM (TSwVa)

329 15
The AG in the WA state case was even more biased against the baker, due
to her religion. There's a good chance that verdict could be appealed
under this new ruling.

Posted by: notsothoreau at June 04, 2018 12:34 PM (JKNZq)

127
This is a Kennedy upper decker for sure.

Basically once again the SCOTUS tailors a decision so narrow that
you need a sub atomic microscope to thread this fucking needle.

Which is what conservatives get after all.

We get absurdly narrow decisons and the left gets decisions that are so broad you can drive planetary systems through them.

Bottom line it doesn't matter what excuse you give them the fucking assholes.

There was a reason that these homo groups are targeting these particular establishments.

They go in to make test case.

It's rather interesting that homos targeted an Indiana Pizzaria to cater a wedding? No?

They don't seem to go after Muslim bakers or phtographers!!!

This shit is all a planned and scripted op.

So I'm betting that the Colorado Commission goes back to the drawing
board to go after these people with reasoning that will satisfy Justice
Asshole, I mean Kennedy.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 04, 2018 12:54 PM (UfMVm)

The WA case has been upheld by the Commie WA State Supreme Court.

This body makes up Leftist Law like a cake baker bakes cakes.
Expect the Yakima bakers to be screwed once again by the WSSC, because they will find something different than the 7-2 ruling, only in their own echo chamber minds, but that is good enough for them.
And then the process will begin again, but the USSC will not review the 2nd life of the Yakima case.

And the Yakima bakers will ultimately be screwed out of their religious beliefs and professional and artistic skills once again.
That is how sick the Left is today in Western Washington/Seattle.

Bank on this. This is investment grade truth.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 04, 2018 01:24 PM (UsCnO)

330 The bad news:

Teen dies after penis ripped off by shark...

Stupid shark took "eat a bag of dicks" literally.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Lets call the shark Lorena

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 04, 2018 01:24 PM (y3aQB)

331 286 Judging by their behavior with Trump, yeah they'll just get worse and worse and more shrill and insistent on the theory that they only lose because they aren't getting their message out.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 04, 2018 01:17 PM (39g3+)

Yeah, I can hardly wait for the 2020 election season.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 04, 2018 01:24 PM (xlCXC)

332 "296 The MFM is reporting that this was a narrow decision.

7-2 is narrow?
Posted by: Cheri"

The ruling is narrow since they punted on the free speech issue and focused on free exercise. The Colorado bureaucrats were such sneering assholes towards the guy that even Kagan and Breyer were able to get on board and say the violated his rights without going further.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 04, 2018 01:25 PM (OD2ni)

333
Concur. Kennedy should be made to smell the glove.
Posted by: Zod at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (Bdeb0)
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"It wasn't originally a glove".

Posted by: Axeman at June 04, 2018 01:25 PM (vDqXW)

334 The real cowards are Congress - they have quit on passing any meaningful laws (Tax Cuts was pushed by Trump) - a very significant percentage of "laws" passed by Congress for decades now are Commemorative Legislation (naming post offices, bestowing medals, establishing monuments/memorials, National Day Of crap, etc.). Because of Congress' unwillingness to do their job they have let the Judicial branch take over their power. It has given the Executive branch far more power too.

Posted by: Tommy at June 04, 2018 01:25 PM (yEAdf)

335 This is crazy. Leftist NY AG wants to change law to go after Dinesh D'Souza again. "Double Jeopardy Loophole"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOiQ5rWsxr0

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 04, 2018 01:12 PM (r+sAi)

++++

Not quite. She is pointing to the D'Souza case as an example of what can occur in future cases. D'Souza is, for them, a lost cause. But, they are worried about Trump pardoning someone who Mueller goes after. Under NY law, once someone has been charged by the feds, if Trump pardons them before they even serve a sentence, NY can't go after them with state law. They want to change that state law so that if Trump short circuits Mueller with a pardon, NY can still stick it to that person.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 04, 2018 01:25 PM (pvjTE)

336 Awful, hopefully the blood loss took him quickly and the shock so that he didn't really realize what had happened.

I hate Drudge's stories like this and the animal abuse ones that get posted.

Posted by: Cheri at June 04, 2018 01:25 PM (oiNtH)

337 No, their job is to interpret the constitution as intended by the founders.

No. That's the job they've taken upon themselves. Their job is to analyze and rule on cases based on the clarity of the constitution. They are not the final arbiter of the constitution, that job was, as the founding fathers repeatedly, clearly, and exhaustively wrote, supposed to be up to the people. The courts simply took it upon themselves with the Marbury vs Madison decision and have ever since crowned themselves God Kings of the constitution.

However, in the process of making decisions, they are to do so as precisely and specifically as possible, because courts were never meant to change, create, or adapt law nor were they meant to be arbiters of social change.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 04, 2018 01:25 PM (39g3+)

338 Note to self: DON'T say "Fuck you, Jesus fucker" and "Suck my dick" aloud or in emails to Jesus-fucker defendants.

Posted by: Colorado Human Rights Gestapo at June 04, 2018 01:25 PM (Evws/)

339 Divorce lawyers?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 04, 2018 01:22 PM (na0uG)

No, they are like lampreys on your balls.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 04, 2018 01:25 PM (CPk08)

340 325

This isnt really a win for our side... all the Supremes did was
tell the left that if they intend to discriminate against Christians /
Religious Conservatives, that they must do so in a much less blatant
manner, where future rulings can at least hide behind a fig leaf of
impartiality when deciding against religious freedoms next time...

Posted by: I Smell Something Rotten at June 04, 2018 01:15 PM (MmjfY)

I think it's a win because it gives people a legal avenue for defense against the state where there really wasn't one before.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 04, 2018 01:24 PM (10vO4)

But at what cost? Think of the financial and personal cost imposed on the baker for this.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 04, 2018 01:25 PM (jxbfJ)

341 Joey Biden apparently is putting together a team for a run in 2020.

50/50 chance he forgets to wear pants to at least one campaign event.

Posted by: Sessile B. Demille at June 04, 2018 01:26 PM (XcgmW)

342 Lets call the shark Lorena
Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 04, 2018 01:24 PM (y3aQB)
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Or Bob-it.

Posted by: Axeman at June 04, 2018 01:26 PM (vDqXW)

343 Even today with modern medical science and the wonders doctors can perform, if someone rips out that artery in your thigh, there's not a lot they can do: death within seconds.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

It's like a fire truck. 750 gallon tank.
Red like take a while to drain tank.
Duece & a half line? Pffft.
Empty almost as soon as you open the valve.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 04, 2018 01:26 PM (na0uG)

344 Somewhat related: I enjoy the Food Network, where it is a nice vacation from politics. Watching Ina Garten calmly make a delicious meal, The Pioneer keep her ranch population well fed, etc.

Except they have a new Wedding Cake competition show.....hosted by skaters Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir.

I HATE that they ruin every dang thing.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2018 01:26 PM (W+vEI)

345 >>the press will of course run with the penis part rather than his whole leg and penis was taken off..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 01:23 PM (vw6r3)

...even after the lifeguard has told them time and time again: "No running with the penis part!"

Also, no gum or glass.

Posted by: Zod at June 04, 2018 01:26 PM (Bdeb0)

346 This decision doesn't clear anything up. In fact, it seems to me, to confuse the issues even more. In other words, a lawyer full employment decision that will require many more appearances in court, and a lot more billable hours that won't settle anything either.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at June 04, 2018 01:26 PM (roQNm)

347 313
Brazil is just one step down the evolutionary ladder from Australia with
things that want to kill you. And the human population is working
overtime to even the odds.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 01:22 PM (/tuJf)

When I got stationed in Panama with the Air Force, you should have seen the Safety Briefing for incoming personnel. The list of poisonous or dangerous plants, snakes and insects alone took like 45 minutes. I think covering the political situation only took about 10. :-)

Posted by: Agent Cooper at June 04, 2018 01:26 PM (oyCqX)

348 332 - thanks for the info Benji. Now it makes sense.

Posted by: Cheri at June 04, 2018 01:27 PM (oiNtH)

349 I disagree, though I haven't read the decision either. But, from what I read of it, SCOTUS merely chastised the Colorado Civil Rights Commission for their anti-religion rhetoric. For the individual in this case, yes, a huge victory. But what of others similarly situated? If the Colorado Civil Rights Commission is smarter next time, and doesn't put their anti-religion bias on display, what happens then? It's anybody's guess.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 04, 2018 01:13 PM (pvjTE)

>>> SCOTUS also said the Colorado Commission applied the law unfairly. The Commission ruled Masterpiece could not refuse to bake a certain cake, but also ruled another guy could refuse to bake anti-gay marriage message cakes. So two shots across the Progressive bow: respect religious beliefs, and apply anti-discrimination laws in a non-discriminatory manner. Easy for SCOTUS to say, difficult to enforce without a lot more litigation and some kind of monetary or jail time penalties sooner or later.

Posted by: Gref at June 04, 2018 01:27 PM (AMIL/)

350 >>Joey Biden apparently is putting together a team for a run in 2020.

#MeeToo Movement: " "
*looks away, whistles tunelessly*

Posted by: Lizzy at June 04, 2018 01:27 PM (W+vEI)

351
But at what cost? Think of the financial and personal cost imposed on the baker for this.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 04, 2018 01:25 PM (jxbfJ)

Sue the state

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 04, 2018 01:27 PM (10vO4)

352 >>But at what cost? Think of the financial and personal cost imposed on the baker for this.

No one court decision is going to stop lunatic lefties from acting like lunatic lefties. But it might make lawyers more circumspect when considering taking a case when they know they will lose.

Kind of sucks working for a settlement when that settlement is donut.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 04, 2018 01:27 PM (/tuJf)

353 Yeah, I can hardly wait for the 2020 election season.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at June 04, 2018 01:24 PM

There's never been a comment I couldn't wait to paste, it's this one!

#MeToo!

Posted by: Joe Biden! 2020! at June 04, 2018 01:27 PM (ctuyM)

354 MSM saying it's a "narrow" decision refers not to the 7-2 count, but to this line from the NY Times story:

"Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, writing for the majority in the 7-2 decision, relied on narrow grounds..."

I.e., they're saying the Kennedy's written opinion was where the "narrow" part comes in. Which, if I read commenters here correctly, it was narrow because the court didn't take on broader issues beyond the CO commission's animus.

But of course the MSM has to be itself and mangle the meaning in the headline.

Posted by: Hands at June 04, 2018 01:28 PM (EzdLW)

355 144 Nancy Pelosi on Twitter:

The right to be free from persecution & discrimination because of who they are or whom they love is the most fundamental right of every American. The Supreme Court's Masterpiece Cakeshop decision fails to uphold equality.

_______________

Yeah, Nanzi, the only Americans who should not be free from persecution and discrimination are Christians!

Nobody persecuted these two gay men. The Christian baker politely told them he did not bake custom cakes to celebrate gay weddings, just like he did not bake cakes to celebrate other events that violated his religious beliefs (such as cakes celebrating divorce, or cakes for raunchy bachelor parties, etc.). He told them he would happily sell them other types of cakes or baked goods.

Instead of acting like normal, decent, tolerant human beings and saying "okay, we understand, thanks anyway," they sued him. There were dozens, if not hundreds, of other local bakeries that would have happily baked whatever cake they wanted, but then they wouldn't have been able to pose as victims.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 04, 2018 01:28 PM (fqUgw)

356 Sue the state
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 04, 2018 01:27 PM (10vO4)

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!

Posted by: Random Hawaii Judge #7 at June 04, 2018 01:28 PM (72PAC)

357 Can we call Sotomayor and Ginsberg "feckless twats"?

Just asking.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 04, 2018 01:24 PM (CPk0

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NO!
Cunt is acceptable only because a far left canadian comedian said so.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 04, 2018 01:28 PM (pw+jk)

358 296 The MFM is reporting that this was a narrow decision.

7-2 is narrow?

Posted by: Cheri at June 04, 2018 01:20 PM (oiNtH)

++++

The narrow part is that it does so little. It basically applies to this case and no other. That's why they were able to get 7 votes. It doesn't protect anyone else.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 04, 2018 01:28 PM (pvjTE)

359 Except they have a new Wedding Cake competition show.....hosted by skaters Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir.

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Yeah, they are everywhere. Wanted to enjoy the Kentucky Derby and I got Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir AND Bob Costas instead.

Posted by: Slip & Slide at June 04, 2018 01:28 PM (TSwVa)

360 Nood

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at June 04, 2018 01:29 PM (7HtZB)

361 Nuisance lawsuits should be slapped immediately.

I agree, that is something judges should go out of their way to not only throw out but punish for bringing to their court. And nobody should reward the behavior with triumph the way this was.

The problem is, during the Obama administration it became standard policy to engage in lawfare: to weaponize courts to punish political opponents.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 04, 2018 01:29 PM (39g3+)

362 http://bit.ly/2JpIu6Z
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Crooked Clapper: The U.S. Meddled In Foreign Elections And Conducted Regime Change In The "Best Interests Of The People" --True Pundit

Posted by: Internet Tough Guy at June 04, 2018 01:29 PM (y3aQB)

363 328
***Headlight blinking***

Capo speech police behind the bushes.

***Headlight blinking***

Posted by: Slip Slide at June 04, 2018 01:24 PM (TSwVa)

Yeah, VA sheriff pulled me over for doing that. I was only flashing lights to get the slowpoke in the 3rd lane to move over. Instead I got ticketed for following too close and an unsafe lane change.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 04, 2018 01:29 PM (jxbfJ)

364 Thanks, YD, that's the most informative answer I've received so far.

I do not use a computer in any type of computer science capacity, so I haven't noticed these things.

Posted by: Emmie at June 04, 2018 01:29 PM (/A+Cl)

365 NO!
Cunt is acceptable only because a far left canadian comedian said so.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 04, 2018 01:28 PM (pw+jk)

Sounds like the comedian is some sort of feckless cunt.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 04, 2018 01:29 PM (CPk08)

366 When I got stationed in Panama with the Air Force, you should have seen the Safety Briefing for incoming personnel. The list of poisonous or dangerous plants, snakes and insects alone took like 45 minutes. I think covering the political situation only took about 10. :-)
Posted by: Agent Cooper

Panama - Brazil - Australia = Stay on dirt or pavement. Stay away from everything. Everything wants to kill you. People included.

Enjoy your visit!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 04, 2018 01:30 PM (na0uG)

367 144 Nancy Pelosi on Twitter:

The right to be free from persecution discrimination because
of who they are or whom they love is the most fundamental right of every
American. The Supreme Court's Masterpiece Cakeshop decision fails to
uphold equality.

=====

I get down on my knees and thank God that Nanzi Palsi runs to the media every single day.. hour.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 04, 2018 01:30 PM (pw+jk)

368 OK I give up. Can't find how to turn off Javascript on Mac Firefox. I blame Bill Gates.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 01:31 PM (md3fh)

369 Can these homosexuals be punished under any kind of SLAPP act?

It's not about winning this particular case. Homosexuals want to intimidate people into submission with these lawsuits.

They should never have been included as a "protected class". A perverted behavior is not the same as an immutable condition of being, like skin color.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 04, 2018 01:31 PM (/qEW2)

370 I hate Drudge's stories like this and the animal abuse ones that get posted.
Posted by: Cheri

Yeah, his whole mayhem shtick is dumb. That and linking to infowars.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 04, 2018 01:31 PM (zfrbv)

371 The narrow part is that it does so little. It basically applies to this case and no other.

That's the theory except that its not exactly true. This decision made it official precedent that if you're going to make that kind of ruling it has to be clearly not based on religion. Which, so far, it always has been: Muslims aren't being nailed for this by Civil Rights Commissions. So this opens up a whole new ball of lawsuits.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 04, 2018 01:32 PM (39g3+)

372 SCOTUS merely chastised the Colorado Civil Rights Commission for their anti-religion rhetoric
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Do the laws in CO allow for charges (civil or criminal) to be brought against the Colorado Civil Rights Commission now that the SC has noted the bigotry of some (all?) of the members of the commission?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 04, 2018 01:33 PM (Z8FFX)

373 Ben Rhodes

Rhodes: Opposition to Obama Policy on Cuba, Paris Climate Agreement Can't Be Ideological

His rationale, these policies are obviously so right, true, and just that no reasonable person could oppose them so it must be only hate.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 04, 2018 01:34 PM (+y/Ru)

374

Posted by: Sponge at June 04, 2018 01:34 PM (Zz0t1)

375 We all knew they couldn't come out in favor of Christians or even common sense in re: for artistic creativity not being liable to being enslaved due to some one else's feelz.

It's time to start making libs uncomfortable and standing up for their idiocy.

And I don't care if anyone wants to say that won't help any.

Don't care anymore. Have been giving ground now for 40 years and I don't see any benefit to anyone by having done so.

One could even argue that by giving ground we've given the crazies the idea that they're sane and that they're even more crazier ideas should be tried out too.

Enough. Back to common sense and not giving in to PC of victims or feelz or whatever.

If we don't stop now we're on the fast track to becoming Britain where they jail you for causing someone's feelings to be hurt.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 04, 2018 01:38 PM (+vXRE)

376 368 OK I give up. Can't find how to turn off Javascript on Mac Firefox. I blame Bill Gates.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 04, 2018 01:31 PM (md3fh)

++++

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/umatrix/

Either one will allow you to turn off scripts for this site.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 04, 2018 01:39 PM (pvjTE)

377 That's why El Rushbo never posts.

Posted by: Hands at June 04, 2018 01:09 PM (EzdLW)

You know he lurks...

Posted by: Timon at June 04, 2018 01:39 PM (NTM5E)

378 137----Why does it have to be religious beliefs?....
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 04, 2018 12:56 PM (TRbOb)
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Yeah, what about that?

I have a kneejerk-Dem friend who is a photographer. She sides with the gay 'rights' crowd on just about everything and is fashionably anti-Christian, kind of new-agey but mostly agnostic.
But she BIGLY supports the right of Christian photographers to refuse to photograph gay weddings.
BIGLY.

What if a nudist sect wanted her to photograph their wedding? Ewwww. What if a Santeria group wanted her to photograph a chicken sacrifice? Ewwww.

It worries and angers her that the criterion is purely religious. It shouldn't be.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 04, 2018 01:40 PM (0jtPF)

379
The Commission was given instructions and they will follow unless they want to be reversed again.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 04, 2018 01:21 PM (hLRSq)

Only if there is someone who is discriminated against, who has the time and money to get the case back to the Supremes.

Its like the Trump Travel Ban.... we're STILL waiting.... because the Process is so convoluted that we can't get the Supremes to answer, in a timely manner.

There was a case from Florida... went to the Supremes... property case... that took TWENTY YEARS to be done... originator of the case had DIED waiting (luckily his heirs continued the case).

Posted by: Don Q at June 04, 2018 01:42 PM (NgKpN)

380 354 MSM saying it's a "narrow" decision refers not to the 7-2 count, but to this line from the NY Times story:

"Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, writing for the majority in the 7-2 decision, relied on narrow grounds..."

I.e., they're saying the Kennedy's written opinion was where the "narrow" part comes in. Which, if I read commenters here correctly, it was narrow because the court didn't take on broader issues beyond the CO commission's animus.

But of course the MSM has to be itself and mangle the meaning in the headline.

Posted by: Hands at June 04, 2018 01:28 PM (EzdLW)

I believe the Supreme Court did not rule any broader because there is already a long line of decisions regarding religious freedom and when the government can infringe upon it. This was a clear case of religious bigotry, the decision was overturned, and the Commission was told to go back and decide it properly. The Supreme Court hasn't exactly been silent on this subject over the past century or so.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Sponsors The Last Voyage of the Sea Cuck! at June 04, 2018 01:42 PM (hLRSq)

381 Frankly, if it was me, I take a page from the Muslims and LIE about the reasons why I couldn't bake them their cake.

Or do such a horrible job they never come back for so much as a cupcake.

Or take too long and miss the wedding date.

Just make sure they sign a contract limiting your liability for such events. Then it becomes a BUSINESS conflict and not a political one.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 04, 2018 01:42 PM (+vXRE)

382 Posted by: jakee308 at June 04, 2018 01:42 PM (+vXRE)

Which is why the Right often looses these fights...

To lie is a Sin... and Dishonorable.

Two things only the Right believes...

Posted by: Don Q at June 04, 2018 01:45 PM (NgKpN)

383 There's cases in England and Scotland that have taken centuries and are still not finalized. Mostly because the cause of action has become moot for one reason or another.

This happens especially in property claims concerning boundaries or certain types of rights by adjoining owners.

If the family maintains continuity the cases can be continued indefinitely until a final adjudication.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 04, 2018 01:46 PM (+vXRE)

384 Are we sure it was a Shark and not a Jet?

Posted by: johnd01 at June 04, 2018 01:46 PM (ukNFU)

385 Oh, and &&&.

Posted by: johnd01 at June 04, 2018 01:47 PM (ukNFU)

386 Imagine, if you will, the sound of a twelve inch
wooded rule held tightly against the corner of a desk and then pulled
upward and released with a snap.
That is the sound of a schadenbonah coming to attention.

Posted by: Rod Serling at June 04, 2018 12:48 PM (ymnmz)

***********************************************
Sheer poetry I tells ya.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at June 04, 2018 01:54 PM (JNTt1)

387 I saw an article that predicted this outcome.

It would agree that he wasn't liable for breaking the law but that the point of whether or not his religion trumped the feelz of the gays would not be decided.

They wait for another case to drop the hammer on Christians then. or the religious.

And there's talk that Heller wasn't such a good ruling after all and that it might just have closed the door to a lot of clarity about the possession of firearms and the type of regulations allowed.

And as we see they've not taken on another case since and there's some real doozies that are developing now.

I fully expect the gun grabber will finally realize that if they can cut off ammunition they will have the same effect and there's plenty of ways for that to happen that won't be turned back by the court.

They'll keep at it until someone finally decides they've had enough and enough other people start to gather.

I thought the Bundy thing would be the case but it was too isolated.

Need something in the midwest or coastal.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 04, 2018 01:55 PM (+vXRE)

388 It was a big misunderstanding anyway. They actually asked if he could bukakki for their wedding.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 04, 2018 01:55 PM (kfcYC)

389 209 179 162 This reasoning is why practitioners are pedophilia and incest will be the next groups pressing for special rights.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 04, 2018 12:59 PM (FTXAT)

And it certainly helps their case that both things are key parts of Islam.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 04, 2018 01:01 PM (WDCYi)

And don't forget bestiality. It's just another kind of "love."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 04, 2018 01:07 PM (TRbOb)

The Love That Dare Not Bark Its Name

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at June 04, 2018 01:57 PM (RD7QR)

390 Who says that you can't burn the living crap out of their cake? Send in 4 or 5 Big Government Minders to supervise the cooking of all food that might be consumed by one or more persons with victim status.

So there.

Posted by: Burger Chef at June 04, 2018 01:57 PM (RuIsu)

391 I think if you were to ask Pope Francis he would tell you that's he's in line with major RC theory regarding Jesus as Lord,d his resurrection from the dead and his presence in the Holy Spirit..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2018 01:10 PM (vw6r3)

I'm sure he would tell us that because he's the Anti-Christ. Do not argue with me! I'm am the one true believer of all that is true and I will give you such a slap!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at June 04, 2018 01:59 PM (9BLnV)

392 The SCOTUS opinions are even more narrow than reported: First, Justice Kennedy seems to say that Mr. Phillips had a dilemma because when the request to bake off he cake was made in 2012, Colorado had not yet made gay marriage legal, and the Supreme Court had not yet decided the Windsor and Obergefell cases. This implies that if the bake request was made now, Phillips would lose.

Then there is a discussion of a man named William Jack, who asked another Colorado bakery to bake an anti gay marriage cake. That Bakery refused, and the same Colorado commission ruled against Jack and in favor of the bakery.

Finally, the concurring opinion by Justice Kagan suggests that if the commission's basis for ruling against Phillips had been a violation of the Colorado Anti Discrimination Act, its ruling would have been ok.

Posted by: mercenary13 at June 04, 2018 02:04 PM (FgVg7)

393 Which is why the Right often looses these fights...

To lie is a Sin... and Dishonorable.

Two things only the Right believes...
Posted by: Don Q at June 04, 2018 01:45 PM (NgKpN)
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Yeah, but you have to think about how the left got to its current state of repugnance.

Often a lie deludes the liar. Disassociation from the truth is not a good thing in the long run.

They even start out with a lie: I do this for good.

Thus "good" gets shaded with lies.

Posted by: Axeman at June 04, 2018 02:20 PM (vDqXW)

394 This is actually a loss, friends. The Court didn't have the balls to protect religious freedom. AND this wasn't about "not serving Gays," it was about "not participating in a ceremony that is directly contrary to your religious beliefs" [you know, that whole "sodomy is an abomination before the Lord" thing that shows up several times in the Bible]. The bakery in question would have sold them a cake, and had served gay customers without complaint; they just didn't want to be forced to participate in a homosexual "wedding."
Now, if the gay Mafia goes after the Muslims for their genuinely cruel treatment of gays, they'll have some respect. If not, they're just persecuting Christians. Oh, and also, orthodox Jews still follow the Torah teaching on sodomy as well. Somehow the gays never attack them or send affianced couples to their establishments to demand wedding services. . . .

Posted by: Beverly at June 04, 2018 02:33 PM (mj/RF)

395 They wanted a statue of two male figurines on a cake. This has to be stopped in its tracks or they will insist on forcing cakes to be made other non-standard components such as the contents of a little vial of "secret sauce" provided by the joyous couple.

Who'd want a cake or anything else from the bakery after that?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 04, 2018 02:49 PM (wjrLK)

396 Clearly, the members of the Colorado Civil Rights Commission have shown themselves to be bigots and must not be able to preside of a reenactment of the previous proceedings.All members of the Colorado Civil Rights Commission should resign.

Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at June 04, 2018 04:05 PM (e8kgV)

397 Main page has an archive look.

Posted by: Golfman at June 04, 2018 04:17 PM (Y01qB)

398 Hope Im not banned.

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