Citing States' Rights and the Anticommandeering Principle, Supreme Court Invalidates Federal Law Prohibiting Sports Betting in State/Local Jurisdictions

New Jersey had filed suit against the federal law which outlawed state authorization for betting operations to take bets on sports. Three states already had the right to permit this, grandfathered in to the law; the rest were prohibited from doing so.

Or, in a slim distinction the federal government thinks matters more than the courts do: The states were prohibited from changing state laws against gambling to permit it.

Which is stupid.

I'm not in favor of gambling as a personal matter, but I'm even less in favor of an all-powerful Leviathan State attempting to parent me with force of arms.

The President is not my father and the State is not my God.

Politicians are not my heroes and bureaucrats are not my priests.

The Supreme Court on Monday struck down a federal law barring sports gambling, in a sweeping decision that could soon lead to legalized sports betting in dozens of states.
The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 to strike down the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act.
The decision marked a defeat for the federal government and sports organizations who fought to uphold the current ban in most states.

...
"The legalization of sports gambling requires an important policy choice, but the choice is not ours to make," the opinion by Justice Samuel Alito said.

The constitutional doctrine of "anticommandeering" -- an important principle of states' rights, that the federal government may not order state law enforcement agents to execute federal law, nor, as here, instruct state legislators about what laws they must pass and what laws they are not allowed to pass -- underpins the Court's ruling here.

PASPA’s provision prohibiting state authorization of sports gambling schemes violates the anticommandeering rule. Pp. 14–24.
(a) As the Tenth Amendment confirms, all legislative power not conferred on Congress by the Constitution is reserved for the States. Absent from the list of conferred powers is the power to issue direct orders to the governments of the States. The anticommandeering doctrine that emerged in New York v. United States, 505 U. S. 144, and Printz v. United States, 521 U. S. 898, simply represents the
recognition of this limitation. Thus, "Congress may not simply 'commandeer
the legislative process of the States by directly compelling them to enact and enforce a federal regulatory program.'" New York, supra, at 161. Adherence to the anticommandeering principle is important for several reasons, including, as significant here, that the rule serves as "one of the Constitution's structural safeguards of liberty," Printz, supra, at 921, that the rule promotes political accountability, and that the rule prevents Congress from shifting the costs of regulation to the States. Pp. 14–18.
(b) PASPA's anti-authorization provision unequivocally dictates what a state legislature may and may not do. The distinction between compelling a State to enact legislation and prohibiting a State from enacting new laws is an empty one. The basic principle--that Congress cannot issue direct orders to state legislatures--applies in either event. Pp. 18–19.

There, the Court is addressing the federal government's attempt at a distinction-without-a-difference, claiming that the PASPA did not order states which laws it must pass, but rather forbade them from changing laws against gambling already on the book.

(c) Contrary to the claim of respondents and the United States,
this Court's precedents do not show that PASPA's anti-authorization provision is constitutional. South Carolina v. Baker, 485 U. S. 505; Reno v. Condon, 528 U. S. 141; Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining & Reclamation Assn., Inc., 452 U. S. 264; FERC v. Mississippi, 456 U. S. 742, distinguished. Pp. 19–21.
(d) Nor does the anti-authorization provision constitute a valid preemption provision. To preempt state law, it must satisfy two requirements. It must represent the exercise of a power conferred on Congress by the Constitution. And, since the Constitution "confers upon Congress the power to regulate individuals, not States," New York, supra, at 177, it must be best read as one that regulates private actors. There is no way that the PASPA anti-authorization provision can be understood as a regulation of private actors. It does not confer any federal rights on private actors interested in conducting sports gambling operations or impose any federal restrictions on private actors.
Pp. 21–24.

That concerns an argument that the federal government may "pre-empt" state law when it seeks to impose a legal burden on all citizens, not states-as-states themselves. The Court finds here that this law obviously was directed as states-as-states and not just on individual citizens.

The court -- not in the summary, but in the main holding -- notes that a law that equally affects both individual actors and states will not be found to be in violation of the anticommandeering principle (for example, a law that makes bearer bonds less attractive for both states and private banks and corporations to issue), but that most of the law here imposes demands specifically on state legislators themselves.

3. PASPA's provision prohibiting state "licens[ing]" of sports gambling schemes also violates the anticommandeering rule. It issues a direct order to the state legislature and suffers from the same defect as the prohibition of state authorization. Thus, this Court need not decide whether New Jersey's 2014 law violates PASPA's antilicensing provision. Pp. 24–25.

Next, the Court addresses whether the parts of the law which most obviously violate the anticommandeering principle can be "severed" from the rest of the law, so that just those especially offensive parts of it can be ruled unconstitutional while the rest of the law (a la Obamacare) is spared.

Unlike in the case of Obamacare, the majority chooses not to "sever" the most offensive parts of the law. (Something they could have and should have done in Obamacare, and almost did, save for Roberts' last minute think-of-your-reputation change of heart):

4. No provision of PASPA is severable from the provisions directly at issue. Pp. 26–30.
(a) Section 3702(1)'s provisions prohibiting States from "operat[ing],"
"sponsor[ing]," or "promot[ing]" sports gambling schemes cannot be severed. Striking the state authorization and licensing provisions while leaving the state operation provision standing would result in a scheme sharply different from what Congress contemplatedwhen PASPA was enacted. For example, had Congress known that States would be free to authorize sports gambling in privately owned casinos, it is unlikely that it would have wanted to prevent States from operating sports lotteries. Nor is it likely that Congress would have wanted to prohibit such an ill-defined category of state conduct as sponsorship or promotion. Pp. 26–27.

There's a bit more to that summary of the opinion but it's similar to the quote above.

By the way: Justice Thomas' concurrence notes that the Supreme Court's rules for "severability" of unconstitutional parts of a law -- striking some parts of a law while allowing the rest to stand, which he likens to a "blue pencil" edit of Congress' law by the judicial branch -- are incoherent and should be re-examined, by which he implies we should go back to the rule that prevailed before the huge Leviathan State regulated everything, that if one part of a law was unconstitutional, the entire law was unconstitiutional, and if Congress wanted to keep parts of the law, it would have to re-pass the law in constitutional form.

He does not like the current rule that says the court should engage in a "nebulous inquiry" about what Congress' hypothetical intent would have been if it knew before hand that parts of the law would be stricken. He specifically mentions National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius -- the ruling that upheld Obamacare, despite striking several parts as unconstitutional -- as one such "nebulous inquiry" that probably should never have been undertaken.

He says this new case "behooves" the court to reexamine its severability doctrines. If that happens, and the court decides to revert to the old rule, would Obamacare be back on the chopping block?

I don't know, and besides, that's three unlikely steps down the road of hypotheticality.

Headline Corrected: I thought I heard someone report this opinion as the court saying that protecting sports' "integrity" from the corrupting influence of gambling was not an important federal concern. I wrote the headline before I read the opinion. However, after looking and looking for a discussion of protecting the integrity of sports, I could find only a single mention of the word "integrity" in the opinion(s), and I did not see any kind of discussion about it. It's possible they mentioned it in one sentence and I skimmed over that.

Point is, my original headline turns out to be wrong. They didn't talk about a federal interest here much, if at all. So I've rewritten it to be accurate, noting that they spent most of their discussion on the anticommandeering principle.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:12 PM

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1 I felt it had arrived.

Posted by: PD; gg channel at May 14, 2018 05:05 PM (St5qb)

2 That is one long ass post about something.

Posted by: PD; gg channel at May 14, 2018 05:06 PM (St5qb)

3 My friendsh, I'm paying 3:2 before the end of the month.

Posted by: John McCain at May 14, 2018 05:06 PM (J7XgW)

4 I have to read it, again. All sorts of legal terms and such.

Posted by: IC at May 14, 2018 05:07 PM (a0IVu)

5 Imma gonna hang out a bit.

Posted by: PD; gg channel at May 14, 2018 05:07 PM (St5qb)

6 3
My friendsh, I'm paying 3:2 before the end of the month.

Posted by: John McCain at May 14, 2018 05:06 PM (J7XgW)

Hey, that's not sport, it's comedy.

Posted by: DurnedYankee at May 14, 2018 05:07 PM (37IEG)

7 I agree with this ruling, but at least gambling is "commerce." I mean its primary purpose is to take money from some party. Apply this same logic to education.

Posted by: SH at May 14, 2018 05:07 PM (sX1BW)

8 It thought the headline was gone to be a A and B but mostly A headline.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 14, 2018 05:08 PM (QQ+il)

9 In before the betting window closes!

Posted by: Octopussy at May 14, 2018 05:08 PM (Ap3Yd)

10 What's troubles me is the pursuit of vice by the state for monetary gain. It seems like that passes a rubicon, and people are lesser for it.

We now have states pursuing drugs and gambling for tax money. Maybe next they can sell protection.

Posted by: Marcus T, Direct fire! at May 14, 2018 05:08 PM (ogx3H)

11 Hey Insomniac!

*waves at lurker Insomniac*

I feel you have deserted us. That's right...it is all about meeee.

Posted by: PD; gg channel at May 14, 2018 05:09 PM (St5qb)

12 2 to 1 odds that only 25% of commenters will have read the entire post.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 14, 2018 05:09 PM (4e+hS)

13 Pete Rose: LET ME IN!

I'm actually sort of torn about this because gambling really isn't a good thing. I've seen someone's life destroyed because of it.

That being said, I'm also against the government micromanaging everyone's life.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 14, 2018 05:09 PM (4ErVI)

14 Does this mean Roger Clemons gets a pardon?

Posted by: Downcast at May 14, 2018 05:09 PM (lNj0g)

15 I'm talkin' about friendship. I'm talkin' about character. Hell, Leo, I ain't embarrassed to use the word - I'm talkin' about ethics.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:09 PM (fA1SL)

16 Blue Note to win at Narraganset.

Posted by: Clifford Skridlow at May 14, 2018 05:09 PM (C1NyB)

17 You're leaving it up to the states to decide?!?!?!?!? Last time we did that we got 300 years of slavery!!!!

Posted by: Incoherent basic progtard at May 14, 2018 05:09 PM (ty7RM)

18 I don't know, and besides, that's three unlikely steps down the road of hypotheticality.

Two unlikely step downs from the court might improve the chances though.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 14, 2018 05:09 PM (QQ+il)

19 The constitutional doctrine of "anticommandeering" -- an important principle of states' rights, that the federal government may not order state law enforcement agents to execute federal law, nor, as here, instruct state legislators about what laws they must pass and what laws they are not allowed to pass -- underpins the Court's ruling here.

The only application of anticommandeering I approve of is when it comes to sanctuary cities.

Posted by: Leftists Everywhere at May 14, 2018 05:09 PM (iv0p7)

20 Being some sort of libertarian, on principle I agree with the court's decision... said decision being surprising, because it loosens the death grip of Government on people...

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 05:09 PM (zSVEm)

21 I've got a sawbuck says that Giraffe gets Pregnant, Gestates and Gives Birth before John McCain dies.

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (1PzFi)

22 Line iteming laws is the province of elected representatives, not the judiciary, so striking one part of a law while retaining the rest is the worst sort of legislating from the bench.

So sayeth me, noted law expert and one likely to say neener neener neener to nay sayers.

Or some such shit.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (7UW64)

23 We now have states pursuing drugs and gambling for tax money. Maybe next they can sell protection.

Posted by: Marcus T, Direct fire! at May 14, 2018 05:08 PM (ogx3H)

Prostitution.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (4ErVI)

24 If the feds decided to ban gambling under their commerce clause powers, with no exceptions, I *bet* it would fly. It's the carving out special treatment for some states that complicated matters.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (pvjTE)

25 I self-identify as first.

Posted by: reason at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (XiVKO)

26 Behooving is something I stand in support of.

Posted by: Beezlebub at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (ctuyM)

27 Not sure if he liked the movie or not.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (Bdeb0)

28 C'mon man. It never occurred to the state that reducing spending and people's reliance on government might be a better alternative than turning them into gambling junkies.

Posted by: Marcus T, Direct fire! at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (ogx3H)

29 He says this new case "behooves" the court to reexamine its severability doctrines. If that happens, and the court decides to revert to the old rule, would Obamacare be back on the chopping block?

I don't know, and besides, that three unlikely events down the road of hypotheticality.
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With the elimination of the Obamacare tax mandate, I think SCOTUS will get another crack at it. Roberts said himself Obamacare could not exist without the tax. The lawsuit is in the lower courts right now.

Posted by: WisRich at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (G0vdT)

30 2 to 1 odds that only 25% of commenters will have read the entire post.

I read the beginning and the end, with random sentences from the middle.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (QQ+il)

31 What's troubles me is the pursuit of vice by the state for monetary
gain. It seems like that passes a rubicon, and people are lesser for
it.

We've had state lotteries for years.

I agree with you, I think vice is a rotten way to fund your society, but that's been going on for a while now...

Posted by: The Paolo at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (oVJmc)

32 21 I've got a sawbuck says that Giraffe gets Pregnant, Gestates and Gives Birth before John McCain dies.

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (1PzFi)

I say, make him get his health care provided by the VA. Should be dead by the end of the week.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (7UW64)

33 The constitutional doctrine of "anticommandeering" -- an important principle of states' rights, that the federal government may not order state law enforcement agents to execute federal law, nor, as here, instruct state legislators about what laws they must pass and what laws they are not allowed to pass -- underpins the Court's ruling here.

The only application of anticommandeering I approve of is when it comes to sanctuary cities.

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Difference being that Article 1 grants Congress the power to regulate immigration.

Posted by: SH at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (sX1BW)

34 I'll leave to all you people who are into lawporn to decipher what this means. All I can say, as a layperson, what Ace said there, that there's no compelling reason why the feds should have a hand in this, that's all I need to know.

Because they don't.

And also, I need to know who the three chuckleheads who voted the other way are.

Should we guess?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 14, 2018 05:11 PM (9chmE)

35 My dad always said: Gambling is just a tax on people who are bad at math.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2018 05:11 PM (ty7RM)

36 Prostitution.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (4ErVI)

List four politicians who aren't.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:11 PM (7UW64)

37 Line iteming laws is the province of elected representatives, not the judiciary, so striking one part of a law while retaining the rest is the worst sort of legislating from the bench.

So sayeth me, noted law expert and one likely to say neener neener neener to nay sayers.

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So also sayeth Justice Thomas in his concurring opinion.

Posted by: SH at May 14, 2018 05:12 PM (sX1BW)

38 That's a lotta words up there.

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:12 PM (x0qEw)

39 31. Hey! Nothing wrong with that. 90% of Peruvia's economy is based on hosting servers for pron.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:12 PM (fA1SL)

40
Posted by: Marcus T, Direct fire! at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (ogx3H)

But it's for the children, education, veterans, puppies, kitties and....etc

Posted by: The State Lotto at May 14, 2018 05:12 PM (suO/a)

41 So does this mean poker sites are good to go again?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 05:12 PM (hKmCD)

42 We've had state lotteries for years.

I agree with you, I think vice is a rotten way to fund your society, but that's been going on for a while now...
Posted by: The Paolo

State liquor stores

Posted by: wrg500 at May 14, 2018 05:12 PM (Bdeb0)

43 what kind of a movie title is "Anticommandeering"?

What is that like 50 shades of grey part III or something?

Posted by: simplemind at May 14, 2018 05:12 PM (IzGqH)

44 Good progress. We need our 50 state laboratories back. If you like your gambling prohibition, you can keep your gambling prohibition - on a state-by-state basis.

I also hope the Court is serious about a rethink (e.g., a toss-out) of severability.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2018 05:12 PM (I2dne)

45 My dad always said: Gambling is just a tax on people who are bad at math.

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It's also just another form of entertainment.

Posted by: SH at May 14, 2018 05:13 PM (sX1BW)

46 I self-identify as first.
Posted by: reason at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM

The patriarchal race to claim "First!" is just another example of male entitlement.

Posted by: Marcie "Fine Italian Meats" Bianco at May 14, 2018 05:13 PM (ctuyM)

47 I read the beginning and the end, with random sentences from the middle.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (QQ+il)

Astounding! That's how I write it!
- ace

Posted by: reason at May 14, 2018 05:13 PM (XiVKO)

48 Odds are 15:1 that McCain will politely croak before June 1st so Arizona can have an election instead of his replacement being picked by their asswipe of a fag RINO governor.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2018 05:13 PM (7n3kj)

49

Would outside a casino be a good place for a beggar to "work?"

I mean, everybody is fixing to go get rid of money anyways...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 14, 2018 05:13 PM (GdWl+)

50 So sayeth me, noted law expert and one likely to say neener neener neener to nay sayers.

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So also sayeth Justice Thomas in his concurring opinion.
Posted by: SH at May 14, 2018 05:12 PM (sX1BW)

Wow. Did he credit me in his opinion?

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:13 PM (7UW64)

51 >>It's also just another form of entertainment.

Yeah!

Like dogfighting.

Posted by: Michael Vick at May 14, 2018 05:14 PM (x0qEw)

52 Behooving is what Hillary spent 600 hours doing to prep for the ungrateful public. Mainly it involved trimming excess hoof, polishing, and switching out the horseshoes.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 14, 2018 05:14 PM (2NqXo)

53 I watch people who really can't afford it dump money on the lottery every week. This is worse. It gets people on a real emotional level. It impacts those who can mostly least afford it.

It's not really a moral question for the courts. It is however for governments and they don't give a shit.

Posted by: Marcus T, Direct fire! at May 14, 2018 05:14 PM (ogx3H)

54 Hey! Nothing wrong with that. 90% of Peruvia's economy is based on hosting servers for pron.

and being henchmen of the Macedonians.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 14, 2018 05:14 PM (QQ+il)

55 46 I self-identify as first.
Posted by: reason at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM

The patriarchal race to claim "First!" is just another example of male entitlement.

Posted by: Marcie "Fine Italian Meats" Bianco at May 14, 2018 05:13 PM (ctuyM)

I hate people who can generate words faster than I do. Screw them and their write-privilege!

Posted by: reason at May 14, 2018 05:14 PM (XiVKO)

56 Let's look to Britain to see the potential downsides? Anyone familiar with sports betting in Britain?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 05:14 PM (hKmCD)

57 Pretty good ruling. The worst part of the law that was overturned, in my opinion, was not only that the Feds commanded the states to pass and enforce certain laws, but then in the same breath they turned to Nevada and said "oh but you guys don't have to, it's cool".

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (k1TUh)

58 What's troubles me is the pursuit of vice by the state for monetary
gain. It seems like that passes a rubicon, and people are lesser for
it.

We've had state lotteries for years.

I agree with you, I think vice is a rotten way to fund your society, but that's been going on for a while now...
Posted by: The Paolo at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (oVJmc)

Yea, all that lottery money was gonna go to the school system. What a great bait and switch that was. Stuff never works out.

Posted by: PD; gg channel at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (St5qb)

59 Married teacher caught on camera blowing 13 year oldstudent(yes,that is exactly what it says)Check out the teacher...

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/296633/

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (LiyEm)

60 54. Hey.....if the Bulgarians paid better, they'd work for them. Nothing personal. Just business.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (fA1SL)

61
Like dogfighting.
Posted by: Michael Vick

I prefer a good cock fight myself

Posted by: Stormy Dainels at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (Bdeb0)

62 The President is not my father and the State is not my God.

Politicians are not my heroes and bureaucrats are not my priests."

This is not my beautiful wife...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (7LY+6)

63 "The President is not my father and the State is not my God.

Politicians are not my heroes and bureaucrats are not my priests."

Wanna bet? No, literally!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (VM6ev)

64 So Ginsberg wrote the dissent, based on the States are Just So Much Piffle doctrine?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (koNhm)

65 >>I watch people who really can't afford it dump money on the lottery every week. This is worse. It gets people on a real emotional level. It impacts those who can mostly least afford it.

It would be Unconstitutional to not allow Electronic Benefit Transfer Cards to work at OTB, or some shit.

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:16 PM (x0qEw)

66 61
Like dogfighting.
Posted by: Michael Vick

I prefer a good cock fight myself
Posted by: Stormy Dainels at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (Bdeb0)

Short blunt swords. Bill Kristol at one-fourth paces...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:16 PM (VM6ev)

67 the Feds can get involved in internet activities where they cross state lines. as in, where they actually cross state lines.

forcing whatever feelgood crap the Congressional idiots come up with, upon each state, no.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 14, 2018 05:16 PM (sjz+j)

68 If that happens, and the court decides to revert to the old rule, would Obamacare be back on the chopping block?

I don't know, and besides, that's three unlikely steps down the road of hypotheticality.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:12 PM
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Boy oh boy, if all that happened though and Trump could manage to get rid of Obamacare, I'd go out to Mt. Rushmore with a chisel and carve him into it myself.

Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2018 05:16 PM (oMtOd)

69 We've had state lotteries for years.

The Founding Fathers held lotteries to help pay for things before we even were a country.

Lottery tickets signed by George Washington have been found.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2018 05:17 PM (iv0p7)

70 64 So Ginsberg wrote the dissent, based on the States are Just So Much Piffle doctrine?
Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (koNhm)

If only we had South Africa's constitution.

Hateful old prune.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:17 PM (VM6ev)

71 Joining Alito, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justices Anthony M. Kennedy, Clarence Thomas, Elena Kagan and Neil M. Gorsuch....

**********************

One of these is not like the others....

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2018 05:17 PM (7n3kj)

72 Married teacher caught on camera blowing 13 year oldstudent(yes,that is exactly what it says)Check out the teacher...

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/296633/"

Clickbait.

Well, it says "Video", so naturally, I thought....

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 14, 2018 05:17 PM (7LY+6)

73 "The President is not my father and the State is not my God.

The President is not my father and the State is not my God."

(GASP!!!!) SACRILEGE!!! HERESY!!!! UNCLEAN!!! Burn him with fire!!!
- Progtards everywhere

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at May 14, 2018 05:17 PM (57plp)

74 Collecting for the numbahs here, boss.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:17 PM (fA1SL)

75 It impacts those who can mostly least afford it.

aka: a regressive tax. They sold the people of Missouri on the idea that:
The Lottery would go to fund eductaion!!11!!
$$s went straight to general revenue.
Part II:
Riverboat gambling would go to education.
Straight to general revenue.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2018 05:17 PM (ty7RM)

76 53 I watch people who really can't afford it dump money on the lottery every week. This is worse. It gets people on a real emotional level. It impacts those who can mostly least afford it.

It's not really a moral question for the courts. It is however for governments and they don't give a shit.
Posted by: Marcus T, Direct fire! at May 14, 2018 05:14 PM (ogx3H)

It is not the government's job to protect us from ourselves. Freedom is that wonderful sword that cuts both ways.

Everything you say about legal gambling applies equally to legal booze, legal weed, and every other thing that, in moderation is fine, but in excess leads to suffering and death.

You can educate people about the evils of smoking, and some will listen and act accordingly. And yet, we still sell cigs, and e-cigs, and now weed is mostly legal, too. Some folks will never stop until their blackened lungs finally give up the ghost.

You might as well legislate against the devil himself.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:17 PM (7UW64)

77 Alito, Roberts, Kennedy, Thomas, Gorsuch, and Kagan for

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:18 PM (MTjB1)

78 48 Odds are 15:1 that McCain will politely croak before June 1st so Arizona can have an election"

Oh come on let me place a bet on that right now!!!! Heh, there will be no takers, because odds are actually about 100:1 AGAINST.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:18 PM (k1TUh)

79 I saw Henchmen Of The Macedonians open for Olga Romanova in the Bucharesti Metal Festival in 2013.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 14, 2018 05:18 PM (sjz+j)

80 >>Check out the teacher...

Nice.

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:18 PM (x0qEw)

81 The President is not my father and the State is not my God.

More like the creepy uncle you warn your daughters to avoid.

Posted by: pep at May 14, 2018 05:18 PM (LAe3v)

82 ...bureaucrats are not my priests.
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Not so fast!

Posted by: General Secretary Olav Fykse Tveit, World Council of Churches at May 14, 2018 05:18 PM (AzW6q)

83 78 48 Odds are 15:1 that McCain will politely croak before June 1st so Arizona can have an election"

Oh come on let me place a bet on that right now!!!! Heh, there will be no takers, because odds are actually about 100:1 AGAINST.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:18 PM (k1TUh)

Speaking of Scalia and My Pillow...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:18 PM (VM6ev)

84 JJ I'm curious what part of Brooklyn you live in. I escaped from Prospect Lefferts 3 years ago.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 14, 2018 05:18 PM (koNhm)

85 Married teacher caught on camera blowing 13 year old student(yes,that is exactly what it says)Check out the teacher...

She doesn't look like a pedo, and yet here we are.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2018 05:19 PM (iv0p7)

86 Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (LiyEm)

I like in the one pic she is showing off her engagement ring.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 05:19 PM (hKmCD)

87 >>>Prostitution

If we put saddles on hookers and make them run in circles racing each other, that's totally legal.

Posted by: wooga at May 14, 2018 05:19 PM (Z8hN4)

88 81 The President is not my father and the State is not my God.

More like the creepy uncle you warn your daughters to avoid.
Posted by: pep at May 14, 2018 05:18 PM (LAe3v)

"Blah blah blah, Blah blah blah blah blah blah"

(I can't talk; I have paste in my mouth)

- - Joey Bidet

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:19 PM (VM6ev)

89 >>She doesn't look like a pedo, and yet here we are.

At least that kid is/was getting something for his tax dollars.

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:20 PM (x0qEw)

90 C'mon man. It never occurred to the state that reducing spending and people's reliance on government might be a better alternative than turning them into gambling junkies.
Posted by: Marcus T, Direct fire! at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (ogx3H)

There's some been some good research on this about how gambling turns into a net loss for the state because of the gambling addictions, and resulting problems.

Posted by: PD; gg channel at May 14, 2018 05:20 PM (St5qb)

91 Married teacher caught on camera blowing 13 year old student

Who in the HELL turned her in?

Posted by: The 13-year-old at May 14, 2018 05:20 PM (9tO1t)

92 69 We've had state lotteries for years.

The Founding Fathers held lotteries to help pay for things before we even were a country.

Lottery tickets signed by George Washington have been found.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2018 05:17 PM (iv0p7)

The Revolutionary War was funded primarily by the equivalent of insider trading on the part of Robert Morris, so just because it was happening then doesn't make it right. Although, I will say, I'm glad it did happen (the revolution, not the insider trading).

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:20 PM (7UW64)

93 I got your severability right here....

no wait, that's gross. forget it.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 14, 2018 05:20 PM (CPk08)

94 84 JJ I'm curious what part of Brooklyn you live in. I escaped from Prospect Lefferts 3 years ago.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 14, 2018 05:18 PM (koNhm)

I live in SoHo/The Village. I grew up in Flatbush/Midwood near the Junction.

My dad taught at what was Lefferts JHS on Empire Blvd.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:21 PM (VM6ev)

95 lottery is far worse than sports betting. lots of people that would never place a bet in a parlor or with a bookie will happily toss money to the clerk every time they buy smokes, gas, beer, chips, whatever.

even worse it has the imprimatur of the state upon it and it has the claim that them money goes to education or something else, which if it does at all, is only in de minimis amounts.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:21 PM (MTjB1)

96 I used to buy the state lottery argument that while gambling might be bad, people were going to do that and so the state could run a lottery for the schools. They they started to advertise and encourage the gambling, undercutting their entire moral rationale. If the gambling wasn't immoral, and clearly it's not since the state is encouraging you to do it, I would get better payout from the local numbers man than the State Lottery.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 14, 2018 05:21 PM (QQ+il)

97 Imagine getting that phone call as a husband."Honey,I've been arrested please come bail me out.Oh,I was blowing a 13 year old..."

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2018 05:21 PM (LiyEm)

98 Some people are okay with government pushing people around and meddling in our lives... and some think it is government's right to do so, thinking it is in some part of the constitution... ( not directed at any of the Horde, who know better )

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 05:21 PM (zSVEm)

99 Who in the HELL turned her in?"

Ah, the PO'd 13 year old's dad?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 14, 2018 05:21 PM (7LY+6)

100 91 Married teacher caught on camera blowing 13 year old student

Who in the HELL turned her in?
Posted by: The 13-year-old at May 14, 2018 05:20 PM (9tO1t)

Does this mean he has to run around with a mattress on his head for the next 5 years?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:21 PM (VM6ev)

101 It is not the government's job to protect us from ourselves. Freedom is that wonderful sword that cuts both ways.

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I agree with this to the extent that whatever you do is your own business, but if I can't walk down the street or hallway without sucking in 20 pounds of secondhand smoke or getting high from the aromas of weed I have to draw the line somewhere. Public nuisance aint always bullshit.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2018 05:21 PM (7n3kj)

102 99 Who in the HELL turned her in?"

Ah, the PO'd 13 year old's dad?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 14, 2018 05:21 PM (7LY+6)

But second, you will blow him...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:22 PM (VM6ev)

103 56 Let's look to Britain to see the potential downsides? Anyone familiar with sports betting in Britain?"

Just to be clear, this decision is NOT about whether or not we should allow gambling. If Congress wants to outlaw gambling in the United States, they can do so, easily.

But Congress may NOT tell the States "here's what we want, but we're too gutless to do it ourselves, so instead we're gonna pass a bill telling YOU that you have to do what we want you to, so that we don't have to."

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:22 PM (k1TUh)

104 If she was a Biology, Physics or Home Economics Teacher, I will allow it.

Also, Math if 6th grade is Advanced Geometry.

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:22 PM (ysR2z)

105 Prostitution

If we put saddles on hookers and make them run in circles racing each other, that's totally legal.
Posted by: wooga at May

well in louisiana they would go they other way, they would send the greyhounds to the brothel after a day at the track.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:22 PM (MTjB1)

106 The President is not my father and the State is not my God.

But Facebook is.
Gonna make it your church too.
You don't get a vote in it. It is going to just happen.

Bet on it.
SWIDT

Posted by: Mark Zuckerberg at May 14, 2018 05:22 PM (St5qb)

107 Both this story and the link fail to provide one bit of info which should be present in ALL coverage of SCOTUS rulings, who voted how.

Posted by: George LeS at May 14, 2018 05:22 PM (/ki+X)

108 The Revolutionary War was funded primarily by the equivalent of insider trading on the part of Robert Morris, so just because it was happening then doesn't make it right.

There's a difference between acts that occur in the open with Washington's signature on the ticket and acts that happen behind the scenes that would have been denied at the time.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2018 05:22 PM (iv0p7)

109 Common CORE! We hired you to teach them about Common CORE...

Posted by: an obviously agitated school board, speaking clearly this time at May 14, 2018 05:22 PM (XiVKO)

110 Odds are 15:1 that McCain will politely croak before June 1st so Arizona can have an election"

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I see Horrible Harry Reid also has cancer, hopefully the fast acting kind.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (+y/Ru)

111 Married teacher caught on camera blowing 13 year oldstudent(yes,that is exactly what it says)Check out the teacher...

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/296633/
Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (LiyEm)

With a mouth like that, what else was she gonna do?

Posted by: golfman at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (If3tB)

112 Am I a bad person that I'm more disgusted with the adultery than with the age of the kid?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (hKmCD)

113 I have this particular bone in my throat when government gets involved in vice. I try to do what I can to help the poor and this crap always fallls on them. I get you should educate your mind and your ass will follow. But our collective government doing this takes it to a whole new level. Perhaps it's the hypocrisy that comes with their constant pathos pleas, which they then immediately abandon when opportunity presents itself. But either way, there is a special little corner of hell for people in government who peddle this nonsense.

Posted by: Marcus T, Direct fire! at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (ogx3H)

114 @94
So you basically grew up as one of the Dead End Kids. Must have seen a lot of Old New York come and go. I'm curious why you stayed in the City.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (koNhm)

115 {i}72 Married teacher caught on camera blowing 13 year oldstudent(yes,that is exactly what it says)Check out the teacher...

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/296633/"

Clickbait.

Well, it says "Video", so naturally, I thought....
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 14, 2018 05:17 PM (7LY+6)

This is the sort of incisive discussion of constitutional law that makes me keep coming back to this blog. lol

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (CPk08)

116 I saw hypotheticality open for John Roberts and his All Black-Robed Band at the Toyota Center in Houston back in 2013.

Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (Xn4Hu)

117 >>"Honey,I've been arrested please come bail me out.Oh,I was blowing a 13 year old..."

...wait. I think there was some static or something.

Did you say 13 Year Old Poodle?

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (ysR2z)

118 111I call that a Guilfoyle...

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (LiyEm)

119 Thomas: "...he implies we should go back to the rule that prevailed before the huge Leviathan State regulated everything, that if one part of a law was unconstitutional, the entire law was unconstitutional, and if Congress wanted to keep parts of the law, it would have to re-pass the law in constitutional form."

Amen. Let judges judge and let legislators legislate, but never cross the streams.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (H8S+R)

120 The feds can anti-commandeer their ass out of the row vs wade pro-choice pro-murder decision. Waiting......

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 14, 2018 05:24 PM (0OmEj)

121 well in louisiana they would go they other way, they would send the greyhounds to the brothel after a day at the track.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:22 PM (MTjB1)
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Whoa! Really?

Posted by: Stephen Hayes at May 14, 2018 05:24 PM (AzW6q)

122 99 Who in the HELL turned her in?"

Ah, the PO'd 13 year old's dad?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 14, 2018 05:21 PM (7LY+6)

If it had been my son, she wouldn't have made it to the police department to be booked. And if my husband didn't do the deed, I would have, with a rusty spork.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:24 PM (7UW64)

123 >>Check out the teacher...

Nice.

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Where were all these chesty perverted female horndogs when I was in school? I was clearly born in the wrong generation.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2018 05:24 PM (7n3kj)

124 Married teacher caught on camera blowing 13 year oldstudent(yes,that is exactly what it says)Check out the teacher...

man, I was born in the wrong century. Hottest thing that happened to me was when my 12th grade English teacher wore a open knit sweater, and her nipple kept popping out. It was the actual nipple, 'cause no bras back then.
She was a hot ginger, but...man.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2018 05:24 PM (ty7RM)

125 I have this particular bone in my throat when government gets involved in vice.

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My biggest problem is the hypocrisy on it. Government's hate gambling ... unless we have a monopoly on it or can tax it or can graft off it.

Either it is illegal or it isn't.

Posted by: SH at May 14, 2018 05:24 PM (sX1BW)

126 This is the sort of incisive discussion of constitutional law that makes me keep coming back to this blog"

You're very welcome.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 14, 2018 05:24 PM (7LY+6)

127 Does this gambling ruling mean my AM talk radio commute is going to be inundated with Draftkings and Fanduel ads again?

Posted by: Downcast at May 14, 2018 05:25 PM (lNj0g)

128 It was an important story that the attention of the Horde needed to be directed to...

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2018 05:25 PM (LiyEm)

129 I watch people who really can't afford it dump money on the lottery
every week. This is worse. It gets people on a real emotional level. It
impacts those who can mostly least afford it.

It's a tax on stupid. Consider it income tax they don't pay.

Posted by: dagny at May 14, 2018 05:25 PM (ahV/f)

130 125. Remember - it's not illegal when the state does it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:26 PM (fA1SL)

131 I have this particular bone in my throat "

That's what she said...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 14, 2018 05:26 PM (7LY+6)

132 113 I have this particular bone in my throat when government gets involved in vice. [//I]

Me too!

Posted by: Brittany Zamora at May 14, 2018 05:26 PM (CPk08)

133 well, the most important thing about the ruling is their reliance on the strict interpretation of the Constitution.

Not especially fond of gambling and would prefer not to have it, however, would much prefer to have the Constitution fully and faithfully adhered to and have gambling than to not have gambling because someone whored up the meaning and application of the Constitution to eliminate gambling.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:26 PM (MTjB1)

134 Me too!
Posted by: Brittany Zamora at May 14, 2018 05:26 PM (CPk0

Win.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2018 05:26 PM (ty7RM)

135
You're leaving it up to the states to decide?!?!?!?!? Last time we did that we got 300 years of slavery!!!!

Posted by: Incoherent basic progtard at May 14, 2018 05:09 PM (ty7RM)

I've seen "400 years of slavery" popping up in the last year, and the math doesn't work out. If you go from the John Punch hearing (1640) to the end of the Civil War (1865), that's 225 years.

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (XKZwp)

136 114 @94
So you basically grew up as one of the Dead End Kids. Must have seen a lot of Old New York come and go. I'm curious why you stayed in the City.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (koNhm)

My neighborhood was mixed. Some were very elegant homes - remember the ones in "Sophie's Choice?", I lived not too far from there. But I grew up in apartment houses. Still, it was a great time to be a kid and a great place.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (VM6ev)

137 I used to buy the state lottery argument that while gambling might be bad, people were going to do that and so the state could run a lottery for the schools.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 14, 2018 05:21 PM (QQ+il)

Heh. In NC, you can buy lottery tickets 24/7.

But, you have to wait til 7AM AND NOON on Sundays to buy a beer.

Posted by: golfman at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (If3tB)

138 Honey,I've been arrested please come bail me out.Oh,I was blowing a 13 year old..."

You're on your own. I'll send the divorce papers to your jail cell.

Posted by: Husband at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (St5qb)

139 the adultery is bad enough. hearing the guy who cucked me is a 13 year old is all level of horrid. that would fucking break me.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (sjz+j)

140 130 125. Remember - it's not illegal when the state does it.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:26 PM (fA1SL)
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Aaaaah... The good ol' Ceaucescu defense!

Works, 'til it doesn't. Then, it's "Schoolhouse Rock" time.

Posted by: Stephen Hayes at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (AzW6q)

141 Alcohol age limits should be revisited in view of this decision but it has been 21 for so long probably no interest.

Posted by: Benji Carver at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (OD2ni)

142 I can't even come up with a scenario where one would get to blowing a 13 year old. He can't have much of an income.

Posted by: dagny at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (ahV/f)

143 So a state can allow casinos now if they want?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (hKmCD)

144 92 69 We've had state lotteries for years. The Founding Fathers held lotteries to help pay for things before we even were a country. Lottery tickets signed by George Washington have been found.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2018 05:17 PM"

The history of those lotteries are revealing, and should be a cautionary tale. Yes, there were lotteries in revolutionary times - and then they became so publicly and notoriously corrupt that everyone banned them for about 50 years. In the aftermath of the Civil War, in the middle of all of the financial troubles, they were rediscovered and a thing called the Louisiana Lottery became a national craze, and ran for quite a few years. Once again, it finally came out that most of the money was being embezzled and most of the "prizes" were fixed payoffs to well connected people, and once again lotteries were banned for 2 or 3 generations.

Now we're back on the same old treadmill - hmm, I wonder how the story will end this time....

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (k1TUh)

145 87
>>>Prostitution

If we put saddles on hookers and make them run in circles racing each other, that's totally legal.

Posted by: wooga at May 14, 2018 05:19 PM (Z8hN4)

Now THERE'S an idea!

Posted by: Bill and Jeffery at Pedo Island at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (UsCnO)

146 140.
Radu for you, citizen.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (fA1SL)

147 Okay class.

Open your Hustlers to page 42.

Posted by: Brittany Zamora at May 14, 2018 05:28 PM (ysR2z)

148 Willowed

Posted by: E. Power Biggs at May 14, 2018 05:28 PM (RwYr/)

149 Hottest thing that happened to me was when my 12th grade English teacher wore a open knit sweater, and her nipple kept popping out. It was the actual nipple, 'cause no bras back then.
She was a hot ginger, but...man.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2018 05:24 PM (ty7RM)

And the fact that you still sport wood just thinking about it encapsulates the reason why she should have been shot for doing that to a 13 year old boy.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:28 PM (7UW64)

150

"Uncommon hardcore was a common virgin."

The teacher that blows 13 year olds.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:28 PM (VM6ev)

151 139 the adultery is bad enough. hearing the guy who cucked me is a 13 year old is all level of horrid. that would fucking break me.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (sjz+j)

Crazy can be fun, and addictive, even if destructive.

And you can be ol' Tiffany is crazy as hell.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 14, 2018 05:28 PM (CPk08)

152 Married teacher caught on camera blowing 13 year oldstudent(yes,that is exactly what it says)Check out the teacher...

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/296633/
Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (LiyEm)

With a mouth like that, what else was she gonna do?

Posted by: golfman at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (If3tB)

I bet she can suck the moon out of it's orbit.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at May 14, 2018 05:28 PM (nNPAz)

153 Public nuisance ain't always bullshit.

Huge sections of the US that used to be bucolic and friendly and largely untouched by outside forces are becoming one big meth addicted shithole.

Libertarians have nothing to offer that would make that situation better.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2018 05:29 PM (iv0p7)

154 Overheard my son tell another son that he went in every morning and put his young hot teacher's books on the floor.

Posted by: dagny at May 14, 2018 05:29 PM (ahV/f)

155 So a state can allow casinos now if they want?"

A state could always allow casinos if they wanted. This is about gambling on sports games - NBA, NFL, whatever.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:29 PM (k1TUh)

156 We used to drop pencils to try and look up the cute young teachers skirt.

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2018 05:29 PM (LiyEm)

157 JJ you should organize a Mo Me for greater NYC. Maybe Westchester?
That way I'd be able to Uber home instead of taking the train.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 14, 2018 05:29 PM (koNhm)

158 I've seen "400 years of slavery" popping up in the last year, and the math doesn't work out. If you go from the John Punch hearing (1640) to the end of the Civil War (1865), that's 225 years.
Posted by: pookysgirl at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (XKZwp)

Golly, math, how does that even work?

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:29 PM (7UW64)

159 Married teacher caught on camera blowing 13 year oldstudent(yes,that is exactly what it says)Check out the teacher...

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Blown away!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2018 05:30 PM (+y/Ru)

160 Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (koNhm)

To actually answer your question, I did move to LA for about 8 years.

Stayed in NYC mostly because of family and business.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:30 PM (VM6ev)

161 Married teacher caught on camera blowing 13 year old student(yes,that is exactly what it says)Check out the teacher...

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She doesn't look like a pedo, and yet here we are.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2018 05:19 PM (iv0p7)

Yeah, I think she kinda really does. Just by the pictures, it's obvious there's something wrong with her.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 14, 2018 05:30 PM (9chmE)

162 Huge sections of the US that used to be bucolic and friendly and largely untouched by outside forces are becoming one big meth addicted shithole.

***********************

Yep.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2018 05:30 PM (7n3kj)

163 Government's hate gambling ... unless we have a monopoly on it or can tax it or can graft off it.

Drugs, liquor, alcohol. I'm waiting for the government prostitution rings.

Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2018 05:30 PM (QxXRY)

164 139 the adultery is bad enough. hearing the guy who cucked me is a 13 year old is all level of horrid. I ~~that~~ would fucking break me her.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM (sjz+j)

My mileage varies

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at May 14, 2018 05:30 PM (57plp)

165 157 JJ you should organize a Mo Me for greater NYC. Maybe Westchester?
That way I'd be able to Uber home instead of taking the train.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 14, 2018 05:29 PM (koNhm

Ask CBD. He organizes those.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:30 PM (VM6ev)

166 Crazy can be fun"

As long as you go in anonamousely...

Heh.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 14, 2018 05:31 PM (7LY+6)

167 Back when the mob ran the numbers games, the payoff was better.

Want to bet that a state licensed sports book will be any better?

Posted by: rd at May 14, 2018 05:31 PM (4dz1m)

168 i'll bet yo the Mob is wishing right now that they had bought Justices instead of Congress critters...

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 14, 2018 05:32 PM (TDuPf)

169 The Zamora woman does not seem to be very contrite... actually, she seems pretty unfazed by it all...

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 05:32 PM (zSVEm)

170 And the fact that you still sport wood just thinking about it
==============================

I've actually touched a few real ones since then. But yeah, guilty.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2018 05:32 PM (ty7RM)

171 We used to drop pencils to try and look up the cute young teachers skirt.

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Not me, I was all hi-tech living in a hi-tech age: I dropped my pager when I wanted to do that.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2018 05:32 PM (7n3kj)

172 @160
If you haven't already you really should take a look at Westchester. I still work in NYC every day and the commute isn't that bad if you're near MetroNorth. And you can really feel out of the City. There's even a decent indoor range in Elmsford. And of course a quicker route to Gods country Upstate.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 14, 2018 05:32 PM (koNhm)

173 I've seen "400 years of slavery"...

Maybe they're saying Columbus invented slavery.

Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2018 05:32 PM (QxXRY)

174 So sports teams in Vegas instantly becomes a non-issue.

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 05:32 PM (+lOpA)

175 I'm waiting for the government prostitution rings."

They'll screw that up, too.

See "Ranch, Mustang"

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 14, 2018 05:32 PM (7LY+6)

176 Probably more like 10,000 years of slavery.

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 05:33 PM (+lOpA)

177 But first hour, you will blow me.

Posted by: Teacher's Pet at May 14, 2018 05:33 PM (oVJmc)

178 Yeah, I think she kinda really does.

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You think she looks like Harry Reid?

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2018 05:33 PM (7n3kj)

179 158 I've seen "400 years of slavery" popping up in the last year, and the math doesn't work out. If you go from the John Punch hearing (1640) to the end of the Civil War (1865), that's 225 years.
Posted by: pookysgirl at May 14, 2018 05:27 PM"

oh gawd I hate to even have to explain it but here goes:
"WE ALL STILL BEES SLAVES TODAY BECAUSE WHITE PRIVILEGE! YEAH BROTHA!!!!!"

I'm not kidding, that' it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:33 PM (k1TUh)

180 >>I've seen "400 years of slavery"...

Slave Years are log Dog Years.

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:33 PM (ysR2z)

181 "Want to bet that a state licensed sports book will be any better?"

The NY Post used to have a lot of fun when the incompetent Hazel Dukes was running OTB in NYC. The called her the only bookie that loses money.

Posted by: Benji Carver at May 14, 2018 05:33 PM (OD2ni)

182 See "Ranch, Mustang"
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 14, 2018 05:32 PM (7LY+6)

hah ha.

Job, Blow

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 05:33 PM (+lOpA)

183 The Zamora woman does not seem to be very contrite... actually, she seems pretty unfazed by it all...

It was probably all staged. She's thinking she just created her big break. What was it they said about Pia Isadora? She f*^ked her way to the middle.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2018 05:33 PM (ty7RM)

184 171 We used to drop pencils to try and look up the cute young teachers skirt.

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Not me, I was all hi-tech living in a hi-tech age: I dropped my pager when I wanted to do that.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2018 05:32 PM (7n3kj)

I tied my shoe a lot around our music teacher.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 14, 2018 05:33 PM (CPk08)

185 Slave Years are log Dog Years.
Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:33 PM (ysR2z)

Log 10 or base e?

Posted by: filbert at May 14, 2018 05:34 PM (953wK)

186 I tied my shoe a lot around our music teacher.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 14, 2018 05:33 PM (CPk0

That came out wrong.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 14, 2018 05:34 PM (CPk08)

187 I wondered if the 400 years meme included the Caribbean.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 14, 2018 05:34 PM (sjz+j)

188 I've seen "400 years of slavery"...

Indeed. The play is "1600 to 2000"...

as if.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 14, 2018 05:35 PM (7LY+6)

189 The constitutional doctrine of "anticommandeering" -- an important principle of states' rights, that the federal government may not order state law enforcement agents to execute federal law, nor, as here, instruct state legislators about what laws they must pass and what laws they are not allowed to pass -- underpins the Court's ruling here.

The only application of anticommandeering I approve of is when it comes to sanctuary cities.

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Difference being that Article 1 grants Congress the power to regulate immigration.
Posted by: SH at May 14, 2018 05:10 PM (sX1BW)

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Yeah. Harry Paratestes was arguing for that a while back. But that's misguided - I really think immigration belongs in a separate category. If you abet illegal immigration/voter fraud, you're committing an act of treason against the country as a whole. It's one of those issues that properly belongs to the Federal sphere.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 14, 2018 05:35 PM (/qEW2)

190 Doncha just love it when those militant atheists tell us that you can just be good for goodness' sake, without reference to Judeo-Christian morals and ethics?

That's where we get to states offering sports gambling. Or prostitution. Or state run liquor stores. See, it's only good if we decide it's good. Doesn't matter what any ol' sky god tells us, right?

Yeah. Life is so much better with cheap, plentiful weed, lottery tickets, and all the other ways the government comes up with their filthy slush funds. Yeah.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:35 PM (7UW64)

191 so, the arizona middle school blowjob monster has more boyfriends in her school?

unsurprisingly, the teacher was arrested when the boys mom found the texts from the teacher. you have to hope that had the dad found the texts he would have pursued something of a more judicious approach. either made sure the kid was ok or figured out how he could have gotten in on the service.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:35 PM (MTjB1)

192 So a state can allow casinos now if they want?"

A state could always allow casinos if they wanted. This is about gambling on sports games - NBA, NFL, whatever.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:29 PM (k1TUh)

Yes I know this is about sports betting but I always thought the Feds had prevented casinos in states too. But if I thought about it, it was the Feds who allowed it and the states who banned it. That's why they popped up on rivers and Indian reservations and offshore.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 05:35 PM (hKmCD)

193 187. Impossible. All teh woke kids know there was never slavery anywhere else outside the United Snakes.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:36 PM (fA1SL)

194 The capital 'L' Libertarian in me says Yes.

The small 'l' libertarian says No.

Individual liberty is extremely important, but there are some activities which appeal to, and promote man's baser instincts, and inevitably reduce the stability of society.

That such activities should be in any way encouraged, let alone nurtured and embraced by government is not a positive thing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2018 05:36 PM (RwYr/)

195 Let's play ball!

Posted by: Pete Rose at May 14, 2018 05:36 PM (KqRop)

196 Log 10 or base e?
Posted by: filbert at May 14, 2018 05:34 PM (953wK)

base 10 is for the little people.

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 05:36 PM (+lOpA)

197 172 @160
If you haven't already you really should take a look at Westchester. I still work in NYC every day and the commute isn't that bad if you're near MetroNorth. And you can really feel out of the City. There's even a decent indoor range in Elmsford. And of course a quicker route to Gods country Upstate.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 14, 2018 05:32 PM (koNhm)

I am thinking NE PA if/when we do get out. Would love to go to FL or TX but wifey is not sanguine.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:36 PM (VM6ev)

198
Drugs, liquor, alcohol. I'm waiting for the government prostitution rings.

Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2018 05:30 PM (QxXRY)

OK, gotta go rob somebody and get ready to party!

Posted by: Common Core trained teenager at May 14, 2018 05:36 PM (UsCnO)

199 Reverse the sexes of teacher/student and there would be all hell breaking loose. This Pedo-bitch deserves a long prison sentence. 13 is pedo territory she needs to be locked up.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 14, 2018 05:37 PM (0OmEj)

200 oh gawd I hate to even have to explain it but here goes:
"WE ALL STILL BEES SLAVES TODAY BECAUSE WHITE PRIVILEGE! YEAH BROTHA!!!!!"

I'm not kidding, that' it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:33 PM (k1TUh)

Pretty sure the correct response to that is side-eye stink-eye and "DaFuq?!?"

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:37 PM (7UW64)

201 Sadly, this decision probably came about 10 years too late for Atlantic City. OTOH, a sports book in the new MGM Grand in Maryland will be crazy busy.

Posted by: Benji Carver at May 14, 2018 05:37 PM (OD2ni)

202 I really think immigration belongs in a separate category. If you abet illegal immigration/voter fraud, you're committing an act of treason against the country as a whole. It's one of those issues that properly belongs to the Federal sphere."

I agree, that's the Supremacy Doctrine. City level governments have no say on national immigration policies, that is exclusively a Federal Function, and lower levels of government are not allowed to exert authority in those areas.

I remember Obama even took Arizona to court once and they issued a binding precedent on that point.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:37 PM (k1TUh)

203 A good ruling, I would also agree that the idea a court can basically modify a law with "severability" is getting awfully close to making the court another branch of the legislature.

Probably should be all or nothing, at the same time, I could see a very activist court striking out policy they don't like over the most trivial issues. Sort of like how an immigration deportation law was thrown out over the word "violent" being too broad.

Posted by: Maritime at May 14, 2018 05:38 PM (lKmt3)

204 here in #Failifornia, the lottery dollars DO go to the schools.

except, of course, that for every Lotto $ in, the Legislature takes a General Fund $ out, and wastes it on something else besides the shitty schools.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 14, 2018 05:38 PM (TDuPf)

205 I'll be honest, I've never understood the appeal of betting on someone else's actions. It's one thing to put up a wager on your own actions, whether it be a card game or some contest of skill. It's a whole other thing to put up money on a sports game in which you have no input. I don't find that enjoyable, and don't understand why others would either.

That said, I also have no problem with it being legal.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 14, 2018 05:38 PM (KqRop)

206 194. This is why the few examples we find of states or societies that promote maximal human liberty tend to be socially conservative.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:38 PM (fA1SL)

207 Oh, Man!

WeaselZippers has the video of the year up right now.

Off Duty Policewoman shoots an armed robber.

Awesome.

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:38 PM (ysR2z)

208 Life is so much better with cheap, plentiful weed, lottery tickets, and all the other ways the government comes up with their filthy slush funds."

Well, we don't have bread. Or circuses.

Yet.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 14, 2018 05:38 PM (7LY+6)

209 Sadly, this decision probably came about 10 years too late for Atlantic City. OTOH, a sports book in the new MGM Grand in Maryland will be crazy busy.
Posted by: Benji Carver at May 14, 2018 05:37 PM (OD2ni)

I wonder how fast all the tribal casinos all around the country will jump on this . . . or if they'll get pre-empted by the real big money players.

Posted by: filbert at May 14, 2018 05:39 PM (953wK)

210 "Reverse the sexes of teacher/student and there would be all hell breaking loose. This Pedo-bitch deserves a long prison sentence. 13 is pedo territory she needs to be locked up."

Um, did you see her pictures? (I kid, I kid).

Posted by: Benji Carver at May 14, 2018 05:39 PM (OD2ni)

211 Married teacher caught on camera blowing 13 year oldstudent(yes,that is exactly what it says)Check out the teacher...

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/296633/

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2018 05:15 PM (LiyEm)
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You know how there's this #metoo movement for women that have been sexually assaulted or harassed by men, well there needs to be one for the students that are sexually harassed by teachers.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 14, 2018 05:39 PM (PvFoN)

212 Reverse the sexes of teacher/student and there would be all hell breaking loose. This Pedo-bitch deserves a long prison sentence. 13 is pedo territory she needs to be locked up.
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May

sure but that is old news. the interesting question is what happens when you throw trannies and people identifying as something other than what they are biologically?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:39 PM (MTjB1)

213 I am thinking NE PA if/when we do get out. Would love to go to FL or TX but wifey is not sanguine.

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My parents are in the same boat. PA is very retiree friendly but they insist its not the same anymore and the air quality is terrible and still too expensive, so off to Florida they will likely go. I want to be close to them but I hate Florida. NE PA could have been ideal considering I do love the Northeast, libtards notwithstanding.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2018 05:40 PM (7n3kj)

214 Point is, my original headline turns out to be wrong.

Ace, expect a summons from Robert Mueller by the end of the week............

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 14, 2018 05:40 PM (UsCnO)

215 So Ginsberg, Breyer, and the Wise Latina all can't read the Constitution. Kagan voted with the majority (written by Alito). That surprised me a little.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at May 14, 2018 05:40 PM (O9qtX)

216 oh gawd I hate to even have to explain it but here goes:

"WE ALL STILL BEES SLAVES TODAY BECAUSE WHITE PRIVILEGE! YEAH BROTHA!!!!!"

I'm not kidding, that' it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:33 PM (k1TUh)

That's what I was guessing.

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 14, 2018 05:41 PM (XKZwp)

217 Reverse the sexes of teacher/student and there would be all hell breaking loose. This Pedo-bitch deserves a long prison sentence. 13 is pedo territory she needs to be locked up.
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 14, 2018 05:37 PM (0OmEj)

But she identifies as a young teen.

Posted by: Explainers coming to a town near you at May 14, 2018 05:41 PM (If3tB)

218

Does this gambling ruling mean my AM talk radio commute is going to be inundated with Draftkings and Fanduel ads again?

Speaking of, I got a piece of spam from DraftKings today. Which is weird since I don't gamble and was redirected to their site once several years ago to check the line on an Alabama game.

That didn't take long.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 14, 2018 05:41 PM (GdWl+)

219 unsurprisingly, the teacher was arrested when the boys mom found the texts from the teacher. you have to hope that had the dad found the texts he would have pursued something of a more judicious approach. either made sure the kid was ok or figured out how he could have gotten in on the service.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:35 PM (MTjB1)

..or be happy the kid wasn't gay in this fucked up gay culture.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at May 14, 2018 05:41 PM (nNPAz)

220 "I wonder how fast all the tribal casinos all around the country will jump on this . . . or if they'll get pre-empted by the real big money players.
Posted by: filbert"

Many moons.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at May 14, 2018 05:41 PM (OD2ni)

221 Arizona, of course. Wanna bet that's a dedicated Jeff Flake supporter right there?

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:42 PM (k1TUh)

222 If you must gamble.... Day Trade.....

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 05:42 PM (zSVEm)

223 This reminds me . I haven't seen The Last Boy Scout in a long time.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 05:42 PM (hKmCD)

224 except, of course, that for every Lotto $ in, the Legislature takes a General Fund $ out, and wastes it on something else besides the shitty schools.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 14, 2018 05:38 PM (TDuPf)

Don't forget those taxes on the winnings. On which taxes have already been paid.

Posted by: Revenooers at May 14, 2018 05:42 PM (If3tB)

225 That ain't how ya play fantan, boys.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:42 PM (fA1SL)

226 222 If you must gamble.... Day Trade.....
Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 05:42 PM (zSVEm)

Good point.

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 05:42 PM (+lOpA)

227 The capital 'L' Libertarian in me says Yes.

The small 'l' libertarian says No.

Individual liberty is extremely important, but there are some
activities which appeal to, and promote man's baser instincts, and
inevitably reduce the stability of society.

That such activities should be in any way encouraged, let alone nurtured and embraced by government is not a positive thing.
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By my reading, this decision has nothing to do with gambling. It's only about who may regulate it. The Constitution doesn't grant that power to the Federal government and so the court threw the issue back to the states.

I think this is awesome. The states are taking back power the Federal government should never have tried to seize. Roe v. Wade is next!

Anyway, I also hate gambling. I think its a tax on the poor and the weak of mind. I believe we should stop casinos, stop gambling, and prevent your state from authorizing these thefts from people who cannot afford to lose the money!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 14, 2018 05:42 PM (rBnYq)

228 #Please,MeToo

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2018 05:42 PM (LiyEm)

229 If you must gamble.... Day Trade.....
Posted by: kraken at May

get out there and write some uncovered calls.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:43 PM (MTjB1)

230 I don't think the 400 years thing started with Kanye's comment, but that may be why you're seeing it a lot lately.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2018 05:43 PM (iv0p7)

231 This is the sort of incisive discussion of constitutional law that makes me keep coming back to this blog. lol
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 14, 2018 05:23 PM (CPk0

+++++++
Can this become a very smart constitutional law blog next?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2018 05:44 PM (I2dne)

232 Individual liberty is extremely important, but there are some activities which appeal to, and promote man's baser instincts, and inevitably reduce the stability of society.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2018 05:36 PM (RwYr/)

I'm not here to "increase the stability of society".

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 05:44 PM (fiGNd)

233 >>#Please,MeToo

Hahaha

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:44 PM (ysR2z)

234
My bird feeder is gone. The old lady who owned this house before must've taken it. That bitch.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 05:44 PM (yrZFq)

235 205 I'll be honest, I've never understood the appeal of betting on someone else's actions."

If I'm gonna bet, I want it to be on something where I have a good chance of using my own skill to influence the odds. You know, like taking out life insurance on someone else.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:44 PM (k1TUh)

236 ...all.that.legalese....it's. giving.me.a.headache...

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 05:45 PM (bUjCl)

237 235.
* fistbump *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:45 PM (fA1SL)

238 WeaselZippers has the video of the year up right now.

Off Duty Policewoman shoots an armed robber.

Awesome.
Posted by: garrett
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I like the way she puts her foot on his ass. You can almost hear, "Face down asshole, spread you arms!" And, she's ready to pull the trigger again.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2018 05:45 PM (RwYr/)

239 My state supports old people with the lottery. Gus the chubby groundhog says so. I don't know of one old person it's helped. Fucking scam.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2018 05:45 PM (89T5c)

240 FFS, as long as Uncle Sugar gets his cut all will be fine. I worked at an OTB for awhile. The clientele was something to behold. I'm lucky I didn't get lung cancer from all the smoking in the place.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at May 14, 2018 05:45 PM (rdl6o)

241 Individual liberty is extremely important, but there are some activities which appeal to, and promote man's baser instincts, and inevitably reduce the stability of society.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May

no, individual liberty is most important, you are straight down the slippery slope when you begin eroding individual liberty.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:45 PM (MTjB1)

242 234
My bird feeder is gone. The old lady who owned this house before must've taken it. That bitch."

She came back and got it? Damn!

I spent part of Saturday putting up squirrel baffles on mine. I think I've finally got those little tree rats baffled.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:45 PM (k1TUh)

243 Oh, Man!

WeaselZippers has the video of the year up right now.

Off Duty Policewoman shoots an armed robber.

Awesome.
Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:38 PM (ysR2z)

Gun control!!

Damn. From what, two feet? She was ready.

Posted by: golfman at May 14, 2018 05:46 PM (If3tB)

244 I've been hearing "Fo' Hunnuht Yeahs of Opreshun!" my whole life, but I guess they've upgraded it to "four hundred years of slavery," now.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 14, 2018 05:46 PM (AzW6q)

245 "This is the sort of incisive discussion of constitutional law that makes me keep coming back to this blog. lol
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at"

This place is very nimble at pivoting between constitutional law and naughty, hot teachers.

Posted by: Benji Carver at May 14, 2018 05:46 PM (OD2ni)

246 when was paspa enacted? does anyone know how long it's been on the books?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 14, 2018 05:46 PM (Pg+x7)

247 get out there and write some uncovered calls.

********************

Options Trading for the win! Im bout to create a double wide horizontal butterfly options call spread on Cambridge Analytica. I smell a comeback!

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2018 05:46 PM (7n3kj)

248 Well let's see . . . 400 years, huh? Through the Magic of Wikipedia, what was going on in 1618:

-Johannes Kepler discovers the third law of planetary motion;

-The Second Defenestration of Prague;

-The beginning of the Bohemian Revolt;

-Sir Walter Raleigh is beheaded;

-The Ming Chinese embassy of the Wanli Emperor presents tea to the Russian tsar.

YES!

RUSSIA!

Posted by: filbert at May 14, 2018 05:46 PM (953wK)

249 >>I like the way she puts her foot on his ass.

A woman's all about her purse.

That is, until she has to cap a bitch and hold him at gunpoint.

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:47 PM (VPZrH)

250
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 14, 2018 05:36 PM (VM6ev)

Try Minnesota. All the joys of an overbearing nanny state, and miserable winter weather to boot!

Posted by: rd at May 14, 2018 05:47 PM (4dz1m)

251 234: don't take shit. Scorched Earth time.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2018 05:47 PM (89T5c)

252 And like I said earlier this morning ... plenty of Republicans that only like State's Rights when they approve of a State's Actions.

Otherwise ... that breed of Republican is All In (SWIDT ?) on the State compelling the actions of the Citizen.

As it turns out ... seems I'm only a Free Man as long as my Republican Neighbors approve my actions. And in that respect ... like I always piss you off when I tell you ... Democrats and Republicans ain't nearly as different as you'd like to believe.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 05:47 PM (fiGNd)

253 If we put saddles on hookers and make them run in circles racing each other, that's totally legal.

++++

I can picture all of it. But, what are the saddles for. Would there be jockeys?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 14, 2018 05:47 PM (pvjTE)

254 gambling...Is a Tax ! Wait ! Gambling...anti-commandeering...thumbs down !

-Justice John Roberts

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 05:47 PM (bUjCl)

255 Try Minnesota. All the joys of an overbearing nanny state, and miserable winter weather to boot!
Posted by: rd at May

well, somalis too.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:47 PM (MTjB1)

256 You ever watch people play video slots/poker?? My observation is that it's a lot like video porn, only more public.... it feeds some need, and people can jawbone about it all day long, but there is a need there, and people are going to fill their needs, one way or the other.

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 05:47 PM (zSVEm)

257 Ginsburg and Sotomayor against, Breyer part for and part against, everyone else for (Thomas concurring, Alito wrote the opinion).

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at May 14, 2018 05:48 PM (AM1GF)

258 Sir Walter Raleigh...is dead?

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 05:48 PM (+lOpA)

259 187. Impossible. All teh woke kids know there was never slavery anywhere else outside the United Snakes.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:36 PM (fA1SL)

I would love to ask one of teh woke kids how many countries still practice slavery and what the religion tends to be prevalent in those countries. Well, I'd ask them, then they'd start screaming about hate speech.

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 14, 2018 05:48 PM (XKZwp)

260 RBG and McCain have something in common - they like to be contrarians.

Posted by: IC at May 14, 2018 05:48 PM (a0IVu)

261 Try Minnesota. All the joys of an overbearing nanny state, and miserable winter weather to boot!
Posted by: rd at May

well, somalis too.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:47 PM (MTjB1)

And loons.

Yes, the bird kind, too.

Posted by: filbert at May 14, 2018 05:49 PM (953wK)

262 gambling...Is a Tax ! Wait ! Gambling...anti-commandeering...thumbs down !

-Justice John Roberts

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Thank you Bush for giving us this fuckhead idiot of a jurist.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2018 05:49 PM (7n3kj)

263 like I said earlier this morning ... plenty of Republicans that only like State's Rights when they approve of a State's Actions.

Otherwise ... that breed of Republican is All In (SWIDT ?) on the State compelling the actions of the Citizen.

As it turns out ... seems I'm only a Free Man as long as my Republican Neighbors approve my actions. And in that respect ... like I always piss you off when I tell you ... Democrats and Republicans ain't nearly as different as you'd like to believe.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May

much of the difference between people on our side of the aisle and the other is simply that they want the government to violate the Constitution in different ways.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:49 PM (MTjB1)

264

Sir Walter Raleigh...is dead?

That's a shame. Loved his fags, tho'.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 14, 2018 05:49 PM (GdWl+)

265 Am I alone in thinking this ruling is a lifeline to the NFL?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 14, 2018 05:49 PM (jn7FC)

266 My bird feeder is gone. The old lady who owned this house before must've taken it. That bitch."

She came back and got it? Damn!

Was it her bird feeder first? I mean, was it included in the house sale? If not, it was hers. Buy your own bird feeder, ya lazy, cheap git.

Posted by: Old Lady with Bird Feeder at May 14, 2018 05:49 PM (St5qb)

267 that the federal government may not order state law enforcement agents to execute federal law, nor, as here, instruct state legislators about what laws they must pass and what laws they are not allowed to pass

=

ok, does this affect ICE - fed immigration laws, at all??

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 05:50 PM (bUjCl)

268
She came back and got it? Damn!

I spent part of Saturday putting up squirrel baffles on mine. I think I've finally got those little tree rats baffled.

I believe so. Who else would take it? And take just that?

Re: baffles
Yeah, she has these things up by the gutters so birds can't nest there. Might be good for other varmints, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 05:50 PM (yrZFq)

269 paspa has been a federal law since 1992.

i looked it up.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 14, 2018 05:50 PM (Pg+x7)

270 Am I alone in thinking this ruling is a lifeline to the NFL?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 14, 2018 05:49 PM (jn7FC)

It just makes inevitable the delightfully entertaining NFL game-fixing scandals to come.

Posted by: filbert at May 14, 2018 05:50 PM (953wK)

271 Thank you Bush for giving us this fuckhead idiot of a jurist.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 14, 2018 05:49 PM (7n3kj)

they had something on him; I am ...50% sure about this

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 05:51 PM (bUjCl)

272 ... hmmm.... republican congress? .... signed by bush the elder.... hmmmm....

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 14, 2018 05:51 PM (Pg+x7)

273
Was it her bird feeder first? I mean, was it included in the house sale?

It was here when we closed on the house. And still here a month later. I PAID for that damn bird feeder.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 05:51 PM (yrZFq)

274 not so much help for the nfl as it is one more way for the white man to stick it to the red man. especially warren.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:52 PM (MTjB1)

275 >>#Please,MeToo

Hahaha

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:44 PM (ysR2z)
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As expected. Haha.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 14, 2018 05:52 PM (PvFoN)

276 "265 Am I alone in thinking this ruling is a lifeline to the NFL?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo"

Pretty sure the NFL strongly opposes any expansion of sports gambling. Delaware tried a few years ago and they fought it very hard. I think DE had to settle for a watered down parley only.

Posted by: Benji Carver at May 14, 2018 05:52 PM (OD2ni)

277 274. Maybe the reservations could open up specialty machine shops.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:52 PM (fA1SL)

278 You can not have a state which both allows people complete freedom, and also removes the consequences of bad decisions.

Freedom must come joined to responsibility. If you allow people to gamble away their savings, then let them live in poverty since that alone is enough to deter some people from such a bad decision. Same with drugs, extreme sports, and all you can eat buffet.

We seem intent to pile on the freedoms. First I want to see the consequences. Get rid of the transfer payments and free healthcare, then legalize the drugs and gambling. Doing it the other way around is just another way to increase the size of the state. It is a looking glass and once again we are on the wrong side.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 14, 2018 05:53 PM (LWu6U)

279 no, individual liberty is most important, you are straight down the slippery slope when you begin eroding individual liberty.
Posted by: yankeefifth
------------

*?*

And yet, I expect that you accept any number of restrictions on individual behavior, including your own.

Surely we're not going to debate that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2018 05:53 PM (RwYr/)

280 hold off, hold off, somebody stole a bird feeder??

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 05:53 PM (bUjCl)

281

Yeah, somebody need to ax Ta-Nasti Coates why, when slavery was outlawed here some 150 years ago after a long and bloody civil war, people like him are sniveling about it like it's still in effect here.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 14, 2018 05:53 PM (GdWl+)

282 I have been a big sports fan(not so much anymore) but I never bet on sports.Too unpredictable.

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2018 05:53 PM (LiyEm)

283 Am I alone in thinking this ruling is a lifeline to the NFL?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at May 14, 2018 05:49 PM (jn7FC)

It just makes inevitable the delightfully entertaining NFL game-fixing scandals to come.
Posted by: filbert at May 14, 2018 05:50 PM (953wK)

Which ... in the long run ... will be the death of Professional Sports as we know them.

Which will include Semi-Pro sports ... which many of you know as the NCAA.

Which ... since we're talking about The Good of Society and All ... will be the best long-term benefit of all.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 05:53 PM (fiGNd)

284
I discovered today that I live 3 miles from "Jack Kerouac's Birthplace" home. Maybe he stole my bird feeder.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 05:53 PM (yrZFq)

285 We seem intent to pile on the freedoms. First I want to see the consequences. Get rid of the transfer payments and free healthcare, then legalize the drugs and gambling. Doing it the other way around is just another way to increase the size of the state. It is a looking glass and once again we are on the wrong side.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 14, 2018 05:53 PM (LWu6U)

Hat tip.

Posted by: golfman at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (If3tB)

286 ok, does this affect ICE - fed immigration laws, at all??"

No.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (k1TUh)

287 probably neighborhood kids...old ladies rarely do high crimes like that

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (bUjCl)

288 Re: baffles
Yeah, she has these things up by the gutters so birds can't nest there. Might be good for other varmints, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 05:50 PM (yrZFq)

It's more fun to shoot the varmints with the .22. Of course, you need a reliable way of disposing of them, but it is a lot more satisfying.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (7UW64)

289 Was it her bird feeder first? I mean, was it included in the house sale?

It was here when we closed on the house. And still here a month later. I PAID for that damn bird feeder.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 05:51 PM (yrZFq)

Did not! I just forgot to take it with me. Anyway, ya can't prove it. Nah, nah pussy.

Posted by: Old Lady with Bird Feeder at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (St5qb)

290 287 probably neighborhood kids...old ladies rarely do high crimes like that
Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (bUjCl)

You have clearly never met my mother.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (7UW64)

291 The state lotteries say " You Can't Win if You Don't Play".... an interesting truism that shows an understanding of rationalization.

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (zSVEm)

292
hold off, hold off, somebody stole a bird feeder??

Well, the wind didn't blow it away.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (yrZFq)

293 "The President is not my father and the State is not my God."
Maybe I'm being too radical, but it seems to me that our political system is predicated on the idea that there is no such thing as "the state", in the Hobbesian sense of a Leviathan that exists independent of the people, and which has interests of its own. Rather, what we have are people: free, endowed with rights by their creator; and government, which the people institute, and in which they entrust a portion of their rights, to serve the common interest. Nothing else.
So, not only is the State not my God, the State is in fact what leftists claim religion is: a myth used to oppress those who believe in it.

Posted by: Brown Line at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (S6ArX)

294 280 hold off, hold off, somebody stole a bird feeder??

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 05:53 PM (bUjCl)

It's a white people thing. Like brunch.

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (+lOpA)

295 And yet, I expect that you accept any number of restrictions on individual behavior, including your own.

Surely we're not going to debate that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May

well, by "accept" do you mean the restrictions that I place upon myself or the restrictions which the state forces upon me?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:55 PM (MTjB1)

296 You have clearly never met my mother.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (7UW64)

guess I can consider meself lucky, huh ?

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 05:55 PM (bUjCl)

297 no, individual liberty is most important, you are straight down the slippery slope when you begin eroding individual liberty.

You want a hog farm on your 1/5 acre in the middle of a subdivision, go for it.

You want to run a 110lb power hammer in your apartment at 1am. Why not?

You want to burn your garbage on your porch? Cool beans.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2018 05:55 PM (iv0p7)

298 go steal your bird feeder back, then electrify it.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:55 PM (MTjB1)

299 295. A free man governs himself.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 05:56 PM (fA1SL)

300 I discovered today that I live 3 miles from "Jack Kerouac's Birthplace" home. Maybe he stole my bird feeder.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 05:53 PM (yrZFq)

Of course I did.

Posted by: Zombie Jack at May 14, 2018 05:56 PM (St5qb)

301 >>somebody stole a bird feeder??

>Well, the wind didn't blow it away.

Perhaps the birds, thinking it to be some sort of magical bottomless food dispensing device, decided to move it to a more convenient locale?

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:56 PM (/uYtj)

302 Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 05:47 PM (fiGNd)

When your perceived individual liberty interferes with me and my perceived rights then we have a problem. You just want to revert to survival of the fittest. I don't have a problem with that but I prefer society arbitrate the situation. It's never going to be perfect and will always have to be checked but it is preferable.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 05:56 PM (hKmCD)

303 Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 14, 2018

Speaking of NYC, I wonder if dagny is still around. I got willowed on the last thread...

Dagny, what was the name of the old Dutch church and cemetery you found? If it was in Gravesend some my relatives are buried there.

Odd thing, I was at the NY Hist Soc and mentioned the Dutch names I was researching. The guy at the desk said the Gulicks are buried in the cemetery in my neighborhood. He knew of the family and they left for the country (NJ) in the late 1600s, early 1700s!

Posted by: Farmer at May 14, 2018 05:56 PM (yJ1e6)

304 And yet, I expect that you accept any number of restrictions on individual behavior, including your own.

Surely we're not going to debate that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2018 05:53 PM (RwYr/)

There's no debate ... the Constitution is clear. The State's are where the power lies, as designed, to make those decisions.

That's why we have FIFTY of them. If I find one State's decisions too onerous ... I can pack my shit and leave.

But Mike ... this is also where people correctly criticize the Republican Party. I don't need Government Legislating Morality to me. I won't tolerate it.

CS Lewis was right ... Tyranny of the Well Intentioned is the worst. Because it never ends. Because it's always For My Own Good.

Fuck that. I'd rather the entire structure go boom first.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 05:56 PM (fiGNd)

305 296 You have clearly never met my mother.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (7UW64)

guess I can consider meself lucky, huh ?
Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 05:55 PM (bUjCl)

The best part is that she has serious dementia now, so she can and will tell you, with a perfectly clear conscience, that she did no such thing and never would.

But yes, you can consider yourself on a higher plane of existence for never having experienced the wonder of my mother.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:56 PM (7UW64)

306 I love Indian Casinos.

All the benefits of problem gamblers, and none of the tax revenues.

Skippy Humphrey and Rudely Perpich passed a law legalizing Indian Casinos about thirty years ago. Do you think they would have been smart enough to add in a rake-off for the state? Nothing big, maybe one percent(1%) on anything over some outrageous sum like twenty or fifty million dollars?

No. Not a chance. These are the same people that want to tax anything that moves and confiscate anything that doesn't.

Posted by: rd at May 14, 2018 05:57 PM (4dz1m)

307 Well, the wind didn't blow it away.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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I don't suppose that you have bears there, do you? They are notorious for raiding bird feeders.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2018 05:57 PM (RwYr/)

308 The state lotteries say " You Can't Win if You Don't Play".... an interesting truism that shows an understanding of rationalization.
Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (zSVEm)

I always had a problem until someone pointed out that it was a tax on those who didn't ordinarily pay much tax.

Posted by: golfman at May 14, 2018 05:57 PM (If3tB)

309 Well, the wind didn't blow it away.

===

ok...did you examine the footprints in that area ?? any suspicions cigarette buts or ash ?

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 05:57 PM (bUjCl)

310 Perhaps the birds, thinking it to be some sort of magical bottomless food dispensing device, decided to move it to a more convenient locale?

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:56 PM (/uYtj)

Cue Hitchcock.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 05:57 PM (7UW64)

311 Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 05:47 PM (fiGNd)

When your perceived individual liberty interferes with me and my perceived rights then we have a problem. You just want to revert to survival of the fittest. I don't have a problem with that but I prefer society arbitrate the situation. It's never going to be perfect and will always have to be checked but it is preferable.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 05:56 PM (hKmCD)

When you're perceived rights preclude me from laying a bet, owning a gun, buying a drink, etc.. ?

You're just fucked.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 05:58 PM (fiGNd)

312 >>I don't suppose that you have bears there, do you?

The thought of some big, hairy gay guy stealing his feeder is a funny one.

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:58 PM (/uYtj)

313 You want a hog farm on your 1/5 acre in the middle of a subdivision, go for it.

You want to run a 110lb power hammer in your apartment at 1am. Why not?

You want to burn your garbage on your porch? Cool beans.
Posted by: bonhomme at May

well, that is a problem. but you have to weigh the costs and benefits. lots of things about being in NYC drive you crazy, not the least of which is the overly restrictive zoning and government meddling in everything you do, especially real estate, however, when you get outside the big city you find lots or very poorly planned communities that are not rationally zoned.

which would you rather?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 05:58 PM (MTjB1)

314 Did you check for a note?

Has anyone called seeking a ransom payment?

Did you ask the Garden Gnome if he saw anything?

Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:59 PM (/uYtj)

315 B othersome neighbors can always be buried in the woods...

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 05:59 PM (zSVEm)

316 The proceeds from the lottery were supposed to save the schools, they didn't. The proceeds from this will probably save many people. Do I need say more?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 14, 2018 05:59 PM (6Ll1u)

317 this just proves that bird feeders are a bad investment

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 05:59 PM (bUjCl)

318 Mystery of the Disappearing Bird Feeder?

A Cracker Jack Mystery.

Let me just grab my sleuth kit and I'll be right over.

Posted by: Nancy Drew at May 14, 2018 06:00 PM (St5qb)

319 I don't suppose that you have bears there, do you? They are notorious for raiding bird feeders.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2018 05:57 PM (RwYr/)

I have tried in vain to convince my husband that he can't just hang a birdfeeder outside our back door like that. He doesn't believe me that bears can and will help themselves. And just last week, momma and baby moose come wandering by, too, so bears are certainly on the move.

Guess he's gonna have to wake up to gigantic furry-butt in the picture window to get the message.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 06:00 PM (7UW64)

320 MSNBC Reporter Calls Gaza Protesters "Unarmed," Then Immediately Says They Had "Some Light Weapons"

They weren't deadly weapons, they were love weapons.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2018 06:00 PM (+y/Ru)

321 Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 05:58 PM (fiGNd)

So you're picking and choosing now? I thought it was all government regulation.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 06:00 PM (hKmCD)

322 Now class, let's review our John Locke, David Hume, Adam Smith, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, etc., etc. . . .

Posted by: filbert at May 14, 2018 06:00 PM (953wK)

323 I'm burning tires on my patio right now. Oh look, I found this nice bird feeder of here....

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2018 06:01 PM (89T5c)

324 >>>>>
The state lotteries say " You Can't Win if You Don't Play".... an
interesting truism that shows an understanding of rationalization.

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (zSVEm)

I always had a problem until someone pointed out that it was a tax on those who didn't ordinarily pay much tax.

Posted by: golfman at May 14, 2018 05:57 PM
.
.
.
.Yep, lotteries are a State tax on people who don't pay any State taxes.

The problem is, we need to work on a Federal lottery so everyone has some skin in that game.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 14, 2018 06:01 PM (+Dllb)

325 313. Use of one's property rights cannot be permitted to interfere with the property rights of others. We used to use the civil courts as a last resort to address these things. Free people understand these things and do not require the threat of sanctioned violence to live together.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 14, 2018 06:01 PM (fA1SL)

326 i'm surprised the court didn't invoke the commerce clause to wrangle an excuse for pasha - that sports and gambling on sports crosses state lines.

it seems that they could just have well twisted out that argument as they apply the commerce clause to just about everything.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 14, 2018 06:02 PM (Pg+x7)

327 Sweet!

Nevada has been bleeding sports book revenue off of the Southeast for years. I'd much rather keep that money in state.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 14, 2018 06:02 PM (KASil)

328 What we need is a form of Hunger Games....

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 06:02 PM (zSVEm)

329 >I don't suppose that you have bears there, do you?

The thought of some big, hairy gay guy stealing his feeder is a funny one.
Posted by: garrett at May 14, 2018 05:58 PM (/uYtj)

Yeti, Big Foot or Hairy Ewok Ace.

A lot of choice.

Posted by: Space Homo at May 14, 2018 06:02 PM (St5qb)

330 Since immigration came up in connection with federal supremacy - and since commandeering seems likely to be a key issue in the lawsuit against CA - a bit of possibly encouraging news on that front.

ICE has greatly increased its audits of employers, for illegal employees. It plans to increase them even more. It has in mind a new centralized system exploiting efficiencies in data mining and communications, and hopes to create a reasonable expectation of an audit, a la the IRS situation, eventually.

Still think they should target a few of the biggest known abusers for exemplary crack-downs. Get the industry association together privately, tell them they have a glide path to compliance, after which the feds will bring down the heavens on their heads. Publicize it all. Kill chickens, scared monkeys, some assembly required.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2018 06:02 PM (QDnY+)

331 which would you rather?

Between NYC levels of intrusiveness and poorly planned communities? The latter.

But you set the marker at zero infringements on individual liberty, which is several steps beyond poorly zoned and planned communities.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2018 06:02 PM (iv0p7)

332 I prefer a lottery to taxes.
At least lotteries are fun.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 14, 2018 06:02 PM (hMwEB)

333 The problem is, we need to work on a Federal lottery so everyone has some skin in that game.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 14, 2018 06:01 PM (+Dllb)

Yeah. That's it. Let's call it the EITC lottery.

Posted by: golfman at May 14, 2018 06:03 PM (If3tB)

334 Perhaps the birds, thinking it to be some sort of magical bottomless food dispensing device, decided to move it to a more convenient locale? "

It is the Sampo! All Hail the Sampo!!!

Posted by: The Birds at May 14, 2018 06:03 PM (k1TUh)

335 well, by "accept" do you mean the restrictions that I place upon myself or the restrictions which the state forces upon me?
Posted by: yankeefifth
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The state.

There are a bazillion laws and statutes which have been adopted to regulate peoples behavior. Everything from pissing in public to rabies inoculations for dogs.

Are you disturbed by those?

I sense that you are being argumentative for the sake of argument, rather than reasonable judgement.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2018 06:03 PM (58eZn)

336 I wonder if this ruling impacts online poker to any degree. Congress basically outlawed anyone in the US from handling poker money, though a couple of states have legalized it.

PS I now have a live link to the full WSJ piece ace discussed several threads ago --

http://archive.is/TSJjX

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 14, 2018 06:03 PM (0ogQG)

337 Remember that nice lady from Minnesota that offed her husband, fled to Florida, and killed another woman there for her ID, money, and car?

Yep, Problem Gambler. "Lois the Loser."

Posted by: rd at May 14, 2018 06:03 PM (4dz1m)

338 You want a hog farm on your 1/5 acre in the middle of a subdivision, go for it.

You want to run a 110lb power hammer in your apartment at 1am. Why not?

You want to burn your garbage on your porch? Cool beans.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2018 05:55 PM (iv0p7)

Wait, are you from AK?

Where dead cars on blocks are landscaping and siding on houses is entirely optional?

Where building permits can remain open indefinitely?

Where shooting a moose in your front yard is not only mostly legal but probably mandatory?

Huh.

Who'd a thunk it?

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 06:03 PM (7UW64)

339 I'm burning tires on my patio right now.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2018 06:01 PM (89T5c)

Ahhhh, so you are on our side. Solidarity.

Posted by: Hamas at May 14, 2018 06:04 PM (St5qb)

340 I sense that you are being argumentative for the sake of argument, rather than reasonable judgement.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2018 06:03 PM (58eZn)

Welcome to Y5. A troll by any other name.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 06:04 PM (7UW64)

341 bears can and will help them selves.

-
A bear attacked a local 5 year old girl a couple of nights ago. Girl was seriously injured but alive. Bear was hunted down and killed.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2018 06:05 PM (+y/Ru)

342 339 I'm burning tires on my patio right now.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2018 06:01 PM (89T5c)

Ahhhh, so you are on our side. Solidarity.
Posted by: Hamas at May 14, 2018 06:04 PM (St5qb)

Yeah, all fun and games until the wind shifts.....

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 06:05 PM (zSVEm)

343 The problem is, we need to work on a Federal lottery so everyone has some skin in that game. "

We've already got a Federal Lottery going on. "Okay, YOU get 1st amendment rights, but YOU don't...."

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 06:05 PM (k1TUh)

344 196 Log 10 or base e?
Posted by: filbert at May 14, 2018 05:34 PM (953wK)

base 10 is for the little people.

friend of mine used to try to impress the wimmens by telling them "on a scale from the square root of two to pi, you're an e."

Posted by: Anachronda at May 14, 2018 06:05 PM (sGtp+)

345 340 I sense that you are being argumentative for the sake of argument, rather than reasonable judgement.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2018 06:03 PM (58eZn)

Welcome to Y5. A troll by any other name.

As opposed to Y2, where all trolls are named "Plugh".

Posted by: Anachronda at May 14, 2018 06:06 PM (v3pYe)

346 Between NYC levels of intrusiveness and poorly planned communities? The latter.

But you set the marker at zero infringements on individual liberty, which is several steps beyond poorly zoned and planned communities.
Posted by: bonhomme at May

your comment, which I responded to was:

You want a hog farm on your 1/5 acre in the middle of a subdivision, go for it.

You want to run a 110lb power hammer in your apartment at 1am. Why not?

You want to burn your garbage on your porch? Cool beans.
Posted by: bonhomme at May

you seemed to be suggesting that you favor regulation to prevent these events. that is the path to nyc regulation.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:06 PM (MTjB1)

347 friend of mine used to try to impress the wimmens by telling them "on a scale from the square root of two to pi, you're an e."
Posted by: Anachronda at May 14, 2018 06:05 PM (sGtp+)

Did he have one pocket protector, or two?

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 06:06 PM (7UW64)

348 Re: the bird feeder.
Check the neighbors. I'm always surprised at the stuff our service company is asked to do while "the new owners aren't in yet".

Posted by: Mansplainer extraordinaire at May 14, 2018 06:06 PM (iC0Tb)

349 Yep, Problem Gambler. "Lois the Loser."
Posted by: rd at May 14, 2018 06:03 PM (4dz1m)

Nope Killer

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:06 PM (JFO2v)

350
Wanna bet a dollar vegas and atlantic city are mad?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 14, 2018 06:06 PM (r+sAi)

351 friend of mine used to try to impress the wimmens by telling them "on a scale from the square root of two to pi, you're an e."

oh yeah I'll bet he racked up the dates with that one. (eye roll)

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 06:07 PM (k1TUh)

352 Welcome to Y5. A troll by any other name.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May

you really should make an effort to avoid the name calling.

will await your apology.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:08 PM (MTjB1)

353 Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 05:58 PM (fiGNd)

So you're picking and choosing now? I thought it was all government regulation.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 06:00 PM (hKmCD)

No Sea-Bass ... folks like you always want to jump straight from The State as Mother and Father straight to Anarchy. Not me.

The States are clearly the place designated by the Constitution to tread the Murky Middle Ground of what Should and Should Not be Legislated.

Which is why we want fifty of them ... more would be better. Assumably - even YOU could find one that suits you. Maybe just not the one you're in.

Now ... the price of that ... is other States get to pick too. Some will pick Legal Weed. Others State Gambling. Yet others - Cousins Marrying a little too close or Teens Consenting to Screw a little too young to suit you.

But see ? We don't all HAVE to suit you. We only have to find One State ... out of Fifty ... to suit ourselves.

That's Little "r" republicanism. Study up on it. That's the kind of shit the country truly was founded on.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:08 PM (fiGNd)

354 291 The state lotteries say " You Can't Win if You Don't Play".... an interesting truism that shows an understanding of rationalization.

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (zSVEm)

++++

Lenny Brisco (Law & Order) said it better. You can't win if you're not in.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 14, 2018 06:08 PM (pvjTE)

355 347 friend of mine used to try to impress the wimmens by telling them "on a scale from the square root of two to pi, you're an e."
Posted by: Anachronda at May 14, 2018 06:05 PM (sGtp+)

Did he have one pocket protector, or two?
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 06:06 PM (7UW64)

"What has he gots in his nasty little pocketses, Precioussss??"

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 06:08 PM (zSVEm)

356 As I predicted decades ago, the state will eventually muscle into all the mobs rackets

Posted by: Regular joe at May 14, 2018 06:08 PM (7PllL)

357 I always had a problem until someone pointed out that it was a tax on those who didn't ordinarily pay much tax.

-
Voluntary self imposed idiot tax.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2018 06:08 PM (+y/Ru)

358 So the betting window is open?

What were the Vegas odds on that?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 14, 2018 06:08 PM (oo2tY)

359 will await your apology.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:08 PM (MTjB1)

After the other night's little adventure with your idiocy, I think you will be old and dead waiting for that.

Bless your pointed little head.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 06:09 PM (7UW64)

360 Hey, lets throw the anything goes injun reservations into this. That should really make it fun.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:09 PM (uNRi5)

361 You want a hog farm on your 1/5 acre in the middle of a subdivision, go for it.

You want to run a 110lb power hammer in your apartment at 1am. Why not?

You want to burn your garbage on your porch? Cool beans.
Posted by: bonhomme at May
z

I think most everyone who wants to do those things lives outside city limits over here in East Texas.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 06:09 PM (k1TUh)

362 ... really - why wouldn't the commerce clause apply here?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 14, 2018 06:09 PM (Pg+x7)

363 But see ? We don't all HAVE to suit you. We only have to find One State ... out of Fifty ... to suit ourselves.
That's Little "r" republicanism. Study up on it. That's the kind of shit the country truly was founded on.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:08 PM (fiGNd)

This X 1000....The less Washington DC, the better.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2018 06:10 PM (EoRCO)

364 The state.

There are a bazillion laws and statutes which have been adopted to regulate peoples behavior. Everything from pissing in public to rabies inoculations for dogs.

Are you disturbed by those?

I sense that you are being argumentative for the sake of argument, rather than reasonable judgement.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May

nope. sure we need some regulations but they really should be kept to a minimum. very fond of the Constitution and the scheme it presents. we should follow it as closely as possible. would like to have lots and lots of things rolled back.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:10 PM (MTjB1)

365 323 I'm burning tires on my patio right now. Oh look, I found this nice bird feeder of here....
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2018 06:01 PM (89T5c)

Why cannot we agree some cultures deserve to go away? If burning tire, digging tunnels, and dying are your cultural contributions you do not deserve to have a say in the world.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:11 PM (JFO2v)

366 The injuns?

They'll make a scalping...

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 14, 2018 06:11 PM (oo2tY)

367 As I predicted decades ago, the state will eventually muscle into all the mobs rackets
Posted by: Regular joe at May 14, 2018 06:08 PM (7PllL)

It's all about collecting taxes. Pot is bad for you until it can be taxed. Then its harmless non violent fun. Follow the money.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:11 PM (uNRi5)

368 After the other night's little adventure with your idiocy, I think you will be old and dead waiting for that.

Bless your pointed little head.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May

all I did the other even was point out that you were using a phrase incorrectly, which you were.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:12 PM (MTjB1)

369 I'm burning tires on my patio right now.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
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Ah. The Winnie Mandela on-line course?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2018 06:12 PM (58eZn)

370 ... nearly all sports contests - both p[ro and amateur - are interstate business activities, and gambling on sports is almost entirely over state lines.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 14, 2018 06:13 PM (Pg+x7)

371 I'm burning tires on my patio right now.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2018 06:01 PM (89T5c)

Somewhere this fall ... a West Virginian will burn a couch on his porch.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:13 PM (fiGNd)

372 I always had a problem until someone pointed out that it was a tax on those who didn't ordinarily pay much tax.
Posted by: golfman at May 14, 2018 05:57 PM (If3tB)

That's pretty good.

Posted by: Max Power at May 14, 2018 06:13 PM (q177U)

373 BREAKING: MO STATE DROPS FELONY INVASION CASE AGAINST GOV. GREITENS

Dismissed without prejudice, it could be refilled.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2018 06:14 PM (+y/Ru)

374 I see the " State" as a vast Ponzi Scheme... always has been, always will be, with Washington the tip of the Pyramid.... everyone elses job is to just peddle what they are pushing... which is ultimately intangible...

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 06:14 PM (zSVEm)

375
Guess he's gonna have to wake up to gigantic furry-butt in the picture window to get the message.
Posted by: tcn
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They've been on our porch twice, for the hummingbird feeder...which we don't have anymore.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2018 06:14 PM (58eZn)

376 >>>>You want a hog farm on your 1/5 acre in the middle of a subdivision, go for it.

You want to run a 110lb power hammer in your apartment at 1am. Why not?

You want to burn your garbage on your porch? Cool beans.

Posted by: bonhomme at May

z

I think most everyone who wants to do those things lives outside city limits over here in East Texas.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 14, 2018 06:09 PM
.
.
.
.Actually you can do all of those things inside the Town limits where I live in NE Texas.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 14, 2018 06:14 PM (+Dllb)

377 It's all about collecting taxes. Pot is bad for you until it can be taxed. Then its harmless non violent fun. Follow the money.
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:11 PM (uNRi5)

....

Very true.

In Tennessee, playing the lottery is fun for all! Scratch-offs make a great Christmas present for the mailman!

Ah, but calling George down at the bar and putting $50 on Green Bay minus six is evil, sinful gambling and must be dealt with severely.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 14, 2018 06:14 PM (KASil)

378 Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2018 06:02 PM (QDnY+)

That is good news. You know what I'm sick of? Either states should be required to comply with federal policies on immigration or not.

When it comes to relocating refugees, the states have no choice. Federal law prevails. They must allow their communities to be degraded and districts flipped.

When it comes to sanctuary cities, cooperating with ICE to deport illegals and detain criminals, states can tell the Federal government to eff off. Federal law does not prevail.

Of course, inconsistency and hypocrisy is the trademark of the Left, but it's time to put a stop to it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 14, 2018 06:15 PM (/qEW2)

379 Who did Missouri invade?

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 06:15 PM (+lOpA)

380 found an interesting bit at the Daily Caller:

Former Democratic Sen. Al Franken of Minnesota once questioned Sen. John McCain of Arizona's status as a war hero in a 2000 interview, arguing that one cannot be a war hero if captured.

"I doubt I could cross the line and vote Republican. I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don't buy the war-hero thing. Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned, he sat out the war," Franken told Salon-dot-com in a 2000 interview.

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at May 14, 2018 06:15 PM (KxbBq)

381 369 I'm burning tires on my patio right now.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
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Ah. The Winnie Mandela on-line course?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2018 06:12 PM (58eZn)

Earth Day Celebration.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 06:16 PM (7UW64)

382 364 The state.

There are a bazillion laws and statutes which have been adopted to regulate peoples behavior. Everything from pissing in public to rabies inoculations for dogs.

Are you disturbed by those?

I sense that you are being argumentative for the sake of argument, rather than reasonable judgement.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May

Of good people only. Now crazy parents do not care if their kids die of diseases (or kill other kids) for the sake of anti-vaccine culture. Gangs do not follow concealed carry laws. And alcohol and drug laws are impossible for anyone to follow.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:16 PM (JFO2v)

383 Ah, the PO'd 13 year old's dad?
++++
Pissed he didn't get a Hummer?

Posted by: Schneidermans Brown Slave at May 14, 2018 06:16 PM (y3aQB)

384 Who did Missouri invade?
Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 06:15 PM (+lOpA)

Kansas, but it was a while back, and got sorted out.

Posted by: filbert at May 14, 2018 06:16 PM (953wK)

385 As is my wont from time to time ... I'll take this moment to point out that, contrary to the wishes of some, we ain't all One Big Happy Family.

Not on this board, not in the Republican Party. Not even as so-called Conservatives.

There's a breed of folks, including Conservatives, that absolutely love to use the Power of the State to coerce the behavior of others.

Those folks - of course - see it as What's Best For Society, What's Moral, etc... etc...

To You Folks - You are absolutely no different than Progressives. Oh ... sure ... you worship different Gods. You differ over the Particulars.

But that's just the Ends. Regarding the Means ... you're all the same.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:17 PM (fiGNd)

386 I am betting against Jake Tapper.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 14, 2018 06:17 PM (xOga2)

387 In Tennessee, playing the lottery is fun for all! Scratch-offs make a great Christmas present for the mailman!

Ah, but calling George down at the bar and putting $50 on Green Bay minus six is evil, sinful gambling and must be dealt with severely.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 14, 2018 06:14 PM (KASil)

Oh man, don't get me started on the poor tax. Groceries bought with ebit cards then they walk over to the service desk and plop down cash for lottery Tix. I've seen it more tan once. WTF?

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:17 PM (uNRi5)

388 The state lotteries say " You Can't Win if You Don't Play".... an interesting truism that shows an understanding of rationalization.
Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM (zSVEm)

========

You know what rationalization has always kept me from playing the lottery?

The winner will be a multimillionaire set for life, who has done nothing to earn it.

If I play the lottery, I will actually be making a *donation* to this asshole, who has no need of it, who deserves it less than practically anyone else on earth.

That disgust has always been sufficient to prevent me from playing.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 14, 2018 06:17 PM (/qEW2)

389 "Did you ask the Garden Gnome if he saw anything?"

He'll never talk gnomes are too gangsta to snitch.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 14, 2018 06:17 PM (ncWdj)

390 There's always hogzilla

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 14, 2018 06:17 PM (6Ll1u)

391 Ah, but calling George down at the bar and putting $50 on Green Bay minus six is evil, sinful gambling and must be dealt with severely.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 14, 2018 06:14 PM (KASil)

And river water makes gambling ok.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:17 PM (JFO2v)

392 As far as I'm concerned, he sat out the war," Franken told Salon-dot-com in a 2000 interview.

I destroyed several American aircraft too, asshole!

Posted by: Senator Mav at May 14, 2018 06:17 PM (Aub3P)

393 Burning tires are an excellent insect repellent, and counteract the reek of the nearby hog operation very effectively...

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 06:17 PM (zSVEm)

394 ... conversely, maybe some of the federal overreach predicated on the commerce clause could be overturned on this anti commandeering principle.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 14, 2018 06:18 PM (Pg+x7)

395 Franken v McCain doesn't hurt my feeling one bit.

Blue on blue.

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 06:18 PM (+lOpA)

396 Washington Examiner
@dcexaminer
Obama's Chicago museum to feature "augmented virtual reality" Oval Office experience

If this were an augmented virtual reality BJ Clinton Oval Office experience, we could talk.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2018 06:19 PM (+y/Ru)

397 Scogg must be halfway through today's jug of Valu-Rite.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 14, 2018 06:19 PM (ncWdj)

398 395 Franken v McCain doesn't hurt my feeling one bit.

Blue on blue.
Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 06:18 PM (+lOpA)

Birds of a feather. Not sure when Franken was captured, but a prisoner he certainly is.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 14, 2018 06:19 PM (7UW64)

399 conversely, maybe some of the federal overreach predicated on the commerce clause could be overturned on this anti commandeering principle.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May

well, that is the interesting part, what are the implications of the reasoning employed in this ruling for future events?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:19 PM (MTjB1)

400 .... e.g., perhaps federal gun check laws are unconstitutional.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 14, 2018 06:19 PM (Pg+x7)

401
The state lotteries say " You Can't Win if You Don't Play"....
Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 05:54 PM

We are totally stealing that motto.

Posted by: The Clinton Foundation at May 14, 2018 06:20 PM (EzdLW)

402
I think it might be a good idea to open up a marijuana dispensary and sports bet parlor.

Guy's MJ Sports Auxiliary. No tobacco smoking allowed.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 14, 2018 06:20 PM (r+sAi)

403 Scogg must be halfway through today's jug of Valu-Rite.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 14, 2018 06:19 PM (ncWdj)

Nope.

We're not talking about Revolution or anything ... but go ahead and regale us with how much it scares you - for your children.

That's always a good read.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:20 PM (fiGNd)

404 Huh. Just did a search for "externalities", came up empty.

The reason that it is reasonable to prohibit hog farms in residential neighborhood in the middle of a large urban area is the externalities. That is things like smell and noise would not stop at the property line, but would continue on to adversely affect the neighbors.

Gambling doesn't do that. That doesn't mean that casinos have to be located in the middle of neighborhoods, their locations can be restricted as with hog farms.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 14, 2018 06:21 PM (pvjTE)

405 OSP, EBT card?

Just today had a young woman use her card to buy vegetable plants. And the system let her.

How does that compute?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 14, 2018 06:21 PM (oo2tY)

406 if Franken has respect for McCain but thinks he was lounging back in Hanoi with a pina colada and a couple of Viet cuties, then he's lying about one or the other.

I actually don't respect McCain but that shit Franken said is low. "sat out the war"? wtf?

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 14, 2018 06:21 PM (isIOX)

407

Those folks - of course - see it as What's Best For Society, What's Moral, etc... etc...

So you think that homosexuality and all the attendant diseases (both physical and mental) is a good and wholesome part of life?

And you think that the nuclear family that comprises a husband and a wife (that's been proven to be the best situation in which to raise children, many times) shouldn't be encouraged?

So, you're a Postmodernist, then?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 14, 2018 06:22 PM (GdWl+)

408 The number of laws have exploded because of the lack of personal responsibility. I don't much care what anyone does as long as they are not harming me or using my treasure to do it.When you burn out your gizzard with drugs or bankrupt yourself with gambling, I'm not feeding you or your family. Pain and hunger are both great correctional tools and major motivators.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:22 PM (uNRi5)

409
Headline Corrected: I thought I heard someone report this opinion as the court saying that protecting sports' "integrity" from the corrupting influence of gambling was not an important federal concern. I wrote the headline before I read the opinion.

Headline integrity kick?

Posted by: Hands at May 14, 2018 06:22 PM (EzdLW)

410 Bet you didn't think I knew how to rock 'n' roll

Posted by: Derek at May 14, 2018 06:22 PM (HgMAr)

411 well, the other interesting thing is that kagan sided with the majority.

of the liberal justices on the court she may be the one most receptive to being persuaded by logic and reason. she is certainly the smartest of the three women. she may be obama's souter.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:23 PM (MTjB1)

412 "friend of mine used to try to impress the wimmens by telling them "on a scale from the square root of two to pi, you're an e."
Posted by: Anachronda at May 14, 2018 06:05 PM (sGtp+)"

NERD!!!!!

Posted by: Ogre at May 14, 2018 06:23 PM (OD2ni)

413 Random question. Who would be in greater danger of a vile disease - a man have sex with Stormy Daniels or a woman having sex with Bill Clinton?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 14, 2018 06:23 PM (eAMlh)

414 Al Franket needs to get the same treatment McCain got as a POW including the bayonet stabbing and starvation.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 14, 2018 06:24 PM (oo2tY)

415 It's all about collecting taxes. Pot is bad for you until it can be taxed. Then its harmless non violent fun. Follow the money.
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:11 PM (uNRi5)

.....

Ha! Yes, one of my favorites!

I'm also generally impressed when I see someone come into the convenient store with a $20 and buy "a #6, 2 #8's, a pack of L & M Menthol 100's and $5.47 in gas on number 3 please" and it comes out perfectly to $20.

And they say you can't teach poor people math. I call b.s.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 14, 2018 06:24 PM (KASil)

416 How does that compute?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 14, 2018 06:21 PM (oo2tY)

We call it Ebit. I call it my freaking money. Veggie plants are okay, they want to grow some maters and cukes? Kewl.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:24 PM (uNRi5)

417 414 Al Franket needs to get the same treatment McCain got as a POW including the bayonet stabbing and starvation.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 14, 2018 06:24 PM (oo2tY)

That works too.

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 06:25 PM (+lOpA)

418 405 OSP, EBT card?

Just today had a young woman use her card to buy vegetable plants. And the system let her.

How does that compute?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 14, 2018 06:21 PM (oo2tY)

In Destin about 5 years ago two young men get the PB, steak, chicken, and the like with their EBT. Then each have several cases of beer and carton of cigs with cash. I recognised them as working at a nice restaurant in town. Was common practice for the cash based workers to also get an EBT of their reported income.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:26 PM (JFO2v)

419 The state tries to save people from themselves via regulation. When that fails, it tries to save people from the consequences of their own actions by despoiling other people. Yeah, I think that it's time to start erring on the other side for a change.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 14, 2018 06:26 PM (/qEW2)

420 So you think that homosexuality and all the attendant diseases (both physical and mental) is a good and wholesome part of life?

And you think that the nuclear family that comprises a husband and a wife (that's been proven to be the best situation in which to raise children, many times) shouldn't be encouraged?

So, you're a Postmodernist, then?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 14, 2018 06:22 PM (GdWl+)

I'm a Stay-Out-Of-It-Ist.

Because any Government you empower to promote what's "Good" for Society ... will get busy with Controlling Society according to what's Good for Government at the first possible damned opportunity. Happens every time. History is full of examples.

Leave people alone. If they decide they want The Nuclear Family ... they'll make one.

And if they don't ? You'll never make them.

You People spend too much fucking time worrying about how to coerce everyone else into doing what's best for them. If you'll just worry about doing what's best for you ... you'll be busy all the time.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:27 PM (fiGNd)

421
Random question. Who would be in greater danger of a vile disease - a man have sex with Stormy Daniels or a woman having sex with Bill Clinton?
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 14, 2018 06:23 PM

Cut out the middle man/woman: let Stormy and Bill get it on, then blood test.

Posted by: Hands at May 14, 2018 06:27 PM (EzdLW)

422 Wait no that's messed up

Posted by: Hands at May 14, 2018 06:27 PM (EzdLW)

423 Burning tires are an excellent insect repellent, and counteract the reek of the nearby hog operation very effectively...

We've found them to be an excellent way to consolidate power.

Posted by: Winnie Flaming Necklace Mandela at May 14, 2018 06:28 PM (ty7RM)

424 278----We seem intent to pile on the freedoms. First I want to see the consequences. Get rid of the transfer payments and free healthcare, then legalize the drugs and gambling. Doing it the other way around is just another way to increase the size of the state. It is a looking glass and once again we are on the wrong side.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 14, 2018 05:53 PM (LWu6U)
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Bingo.

(Requoting it just in case anyone down here in the thread missed it.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 14, 2018 06:28 PM (0jtPF)

425 test

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 06:28 PM (bUjCl)

426 Old iPad fizzled out. New iPad is mucho fasto.

Posted by: Weasel at May 14, 2018 06:28 PM (MVjcR)

427 Judge dismisses case against our governor Greitens. LMAO! Liberal heads explode all over Missouri!

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (dUJdY)

428
I'm so small govt, I want no public education.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (r+sAi)

429 408 The number of laws have exploded because of the lack of personal responsibility. I don't much care what anyone does as long as they are not harming me or using my treasure to do it.When you burn out your gizzard with drugs or bankrupt yourself with gambling, I'm not feeding you or your family. Pain and hunger are both great correctional tools and major motivators.
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:22 PM (uNRi5)

Or is it because Progressives got to control others. They hate you! They think you are a worthless piece of shit that must be taxed and regulated to death.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (JFO2v)

430

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (bUjCl)

431 Cut out the middle man/woman: let Stormy and Bill get it on, then blood test.
Posted by: Hands at May 14, 2018 06:27 PM (EzdLW)

Dripdome.

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (+lOpA)

432 The state tries to save people from themselves via regulation. When that fails, it tries to save people from the consequences of their own actions by despoiling other people. Yeah, I think that it's time to start erring on the other side for a change.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 14, 2018 06:26 PM (/qEW2)

Exactly. Instead of saving them, the government is like a mom bringing her six hundred pound son another pizza.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (uNRi5)

433 In Destin about 5 years ago two young men get the PB, steak, chicken, and the like with their EBT. Then each have several cases of beer and carton of cigs with cash. I recognised them as working at a nice restaurant in town. Was common practice for the cash based workers to also get an EBT of their reported income.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:26 PM (JFO2v)

....

In my little rural town in east Tennessee, I have watched the Mexicans and the Indians (tech support not tomahawk) in a Walmart ringing up loads of food and canned sodas on EBT.

The Mexicans use it for supplies for their restaurant. The Indians restock the soda coolers at the Quickie Mart.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (KASil)

434 Random question. Who would be in greater danger of a vile disease - a man have sex with Stormy Daniels or a woman having sex with Bill Clinton?
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 14, 2018 06:23 PM
Cut out the middle man/woman: let Stormy and Bill get it on, then blood test.
Posted by: Hands at May 14, 2018 06:27 PM (EzdLW)

Well there is the hen and then there is the chicken. So who is having sex with Hillary?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (EoRCO)

435 IT'S A BET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: The Honorable Chief Justice Roberts at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (BfOXk)

436 "As the Tenth Amendment confirms, all legislative power not conferred on Congress by the Constitution is reserved for the States."

Now do marriage, motherfuckers.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (EUMr7)

437 413 Random question. Who would be in greater danger of a vile disease - a man have sex with Stormy Daniels or a woman having sex with Bill Clinton?
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 14, 2018 06:23 PM (eAMlh)

Stormy had the required periodic blood tests that came out clean or she wouldn't be able to work. Bill Clinton would be the more dangerous.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 06:30 PM (2DOZq)

438 Because any Government you empower to promote what's "Good" for Society ... will get busy with Controlling Society according to what's Good for Government at the first possible damned opportunity. Happens every time. History is full of examples.

Leave people alone. If they decide they want The Nuclear Family ... they'll make one.

And if they don't ? You'll never make them.

You People spend too much fucking time worrying about how to coerce everyone else into doing what's best for them. If you'll just worry about doing what's best for you ... you'll be busy all the time.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:27 PM (fiGNd)

This SCOTUS decision had nothing to do with any of that. This was just a question of what the feral government can ban and what the states have the right to allow or ban.

That said, there is certainly a place in law for morality. It's pretty much the main function of law. Now, if someone tries to abuse that then that is a problem but the idea that all morality and social norms have no place in law is unrealistic and just, plain wrong.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2018 06:30 PM (4Db+5)

439 I just heard some clips from a March radio interview with Margot Kidder. She sounds like a hard case. She described Christopher Reeve, the guy who played Superman, as "an asshole" and said it really "wasn't much of a tragedy" when he was injured and paralyzed.

Yikes! Glad she wasn't mad at me.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 14, 2018 06:30 PM (rBnYq)

440 Random question. Who would be in greater danger of a vile disease - a man have sex with Stormy Daniels or a woman having sex with Bill Clinton?

Yes.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2018 06:31 PM (ty7RM)

441 Now do marriage, motherfuckers.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (EUMr7)

Be better off if they just stayed out of it.

Transfer your property to whomever when you die. I don't care.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:31 PM (fiGNd)

442 Or is it because Progressives got to control others. They hate you! They think you are a worthless piece of shit that must be taxed and regulated to death.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (JFO2v)

That depends on if they are Evil (Hillary) or true believers (the brainwashed masses)

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:31 PM (uNRi5)

443 Stay-Out-Of-It-Ist.

Because any Government you empower to promote what's "Good" for Society ... will get busy with Controlling Society according to what's Good for Government at the first possible damned opportunity. Happens every time. History is full of examples.

Leave people alone. If they decide they want The Nuclear Family ... they'll make one.

And if they don't ? You'll never make them.

You People spend too much fucking time worrying about how to coerce everyone else into doing what's best for them. If you'll just worry about doing what's best for you ... you'll be busy all the time.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May

yep.

the nuclear family became the default because it worked not because of anything the government did. Similar the notion that any government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. when you have a government with the authority to implement the policies you approve of it has the same to do so for those of which you disapprove.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:32 PM (MTjB1)

444 Random question. Who would be in greater danger of a vile disease - a man have sex with Stormy Daniels or a woman having sex with Bill Clinton?

==

a man having sex with Bill Clinton

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 06:32 PM (bUjCl)

445
... the Indians (tech support not tomahawk) ...
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM

I'm-a gonna print up tee shirts with TECH SUPPORT NOT TOMAHAWK for the Hindus.

Then I'm-a gonna print up tee shirts with TOMAHAWK NOT TECH SUPPORT for the Injuns.

Posted by: Hands at May 14, 2018 06:32 PM (EzdLW)

446 >>>Transfer your property to whomever when you die. I don't care.

Agreed. But "what's for lunch?" isn't the question, either.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:32 PM (EUMr7)

447
253 I can picture all of it. But, what are the saddles for. Would there be jockeys?

missed it by *that* much!

Posted by: Jacques C. at May 14, 2018 06:33 PM (sGtp+)

448 CBS News is spending all their time on the poor Palis tonight. Some women are having to remove their hijabs to put on gas masks. Sad.

Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2018 06:33 PM (UdKB7)

449 >>>Now do marriage, motherfuckers.

>>>Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (EUMr7)

Be better off if they just stayed out of it.

Transfer your property to whomever when you die. I don't care.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:31 PM (fiGNd)

The federal government has a role to play in the marriage issue because the feds are the ones who decide which licenses and certifications must be accepted by other states. The Feds did the correct thing with respect to marriage in the DOMA. That was their exact function and carried out properly. The SCOTUS screwed the pooch on that one. Bigly.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2018 06:33 PM (4Db+5)

450 Whaddya gotta do as a "demonstrator" in Gaza to be scoped by an IDF sniper and shot dead?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 14, 2018 06:33 PM (xOga2)

451 NoVA / DC / Baltimore about to get a derecho.

Like a 20-minute hurricane.

This is going to suck. I was about to head to the store. Good thing I saw a tweet before I left. NoVA getting dimed-sized hail right now.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at May 14, 2018 06:33 PM (MCbul)

452 'Cause cops in Chicago and Baltimore want to know.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 14, 2018 06:34 PM (xOga2)

453 >>>The SCOTUS screwed the pooch on that one. Bigly.

This site needs the ability to post memes.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:34 PM (EUMr7)

454
Then I'm-a gonna print up tee shirts with TOMAHAWK NOT TECH SUPPORT for the Injuns.
Posted by: Hands at May 14, 2018 06:32 PM (EzdLW)

I always said, "Dot or feather."

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:34 PM (uNRi5)

455 I love Derechos & milk.

Posted by: PhilDirt at May 14, 2018 06:35 PM (cJhrm)

456 453 >>>The SCOTUS screwed the pooch on that one. Bigly.

This site needs the ability to post memes.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:34 PM (EUMr7)

The covfefe you say.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 06:35 PM (2DOZq)

457 This site needs the ability to post memes.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:34 PM (EUMr7)

There is an AoS Facebook page. Lots of memes there.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:35 PM (uNRi5)

458 Just read that sidebar on Margot, amazes me seeing the age of these actors and actresses,. I'm getting old.

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2018 06:35 PM (aC6Sd)

459 Then I'm-a gonna print up tee shirts with TOMAHAWK NOT TECH SUPPORT for the Injuns.
Posted by: Hands at May 14, 2018 06:32 PM (EzdLW)

I always said, "Dot or feather."
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May

yeah, the t-shirt should say "tomahawk or tech support"

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:36 PM (MTjB1)

460 Well there is the hen and then there is the chicken. So who is having sex with Hillary?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2018 06:29 PM (EoRCO)

That's perverse.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 14, 2018 06:36 PM (BRvh1)

461 Judge dismisses case against our governor Greitens. LMAO! Liberal heads explode all over Missouri!

Would it were so. The ((mother f*^king)) political D.A. hack Kim Gardener is just keeping the case going until election season. She requested a November 18 trial date...in February.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2018 06:36 PM (ty7RM)

462 455 I love Derechos & milk.
Posted by: PhilDirt at May 14, 2018 06:35 PM (cJhr

It's the milk hitting your face at 90 mph that sucks.

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 06:36 PM (+lOpA)

463

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 14, 2018 06:36 PM (NbPPt)

464 Isn't derecho a cultural appropriation?

Posted by: PhilDirt at May 14, 2018 06:36 PM (cJhrm)

465 >>>Well there is the hen and then there is the chicken.

Well, who came first?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:36 PM (EUMr7)

466 Never heard of a derecho before,must have been caused by climate change...

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2018 06:36 PM (LiyEm)

467 (She's refiling.)

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2018 06:36 PM (ty7RM)

468 OSP, EBT card?

Just today had a young woman use her card to buy vegetable plants. And the system let her.
How does that compute?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 14, 2018 06:21

I don't see a problem w/ that. At least she's trying to grow her own food and her family will get more food for the EBT money. I doubt most w/ EBT cards would put in the effort.

Posted by: Farmer at May 14, 2018 06:36 PM (yJ1e6)

469 Arch, it's pitch black here, and pouring and windy. We just had a bunch of hail too. We've had tornado warnings galore and we're all hunkering down in the basement.

Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2018 06:37 PM (oMtOd)

470 Everything is a cultural appropriation.... unless you are Amish....

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 06:37 PM (zSVEm)

471 I just heard some clips from a March radio interview with Margot Kidder. She sounds like a hard case. She described Christopher Reeve, the guy who played Superman, as "an asshole" and said it really "wasn't much of a tragedy" when he was injured and paralyzed.

-
Maybe he just didn't like evil moonbats.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2018 06:37 PM (+y/Ru)

472 I fail to see how deplorables at the state level can possibly be able to properly interpret emanations and penumbras from the Living Constitution, thus robust well thought out Federal legislation (with K-Street and Chamber of Commerce input) is necessary for the proper regulation of every aspect of the lives of the peasants!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 14, 2018 06:37 PM (n9EOP)

473 I thought Kidder was as hard Left was Reeves was, which was a lot.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 14, 2018 06:37 PM (isIOX)

474 Isn't derecho a cultural appropriation?

Posted by: PhilDirt at May 14, 2018 06:36 PM (cJhrm)

No. Polk won us the right to use that word in perpetuity.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2018 06:38 PM (4Db+5)

475 Kidder was crazy.... so maybe Leftie...

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 06:38 PM (zSVEm)

476 469 Arch, it's pitch black here, and pouring and windy. We just had a bunch of hail too. We've had tornado warnings galore and we're all hunkering down in the basement.
Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2018 06:37 PM (oMtOd)

I guess I shouldn't be complaining about the beginning of our 90 degree or above every day season .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 06:38 PM (2DOZq)

477 Just read that sidebar on Margot, amazes me seeing the age of these actors and actresses,. I'm getting old.
Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2018 06:35 PM (aC6Sd)

If you notice, an actresses age and bitterness level is directly proportional. Except for Betty White and the black woman from the first Star Trek.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:38 PM (uNRi5)

478 471 I just heard some clips from a March radio interview with Margot Kidder. She sounds like a hard case. She described Christopher Reeve, the guy who played Superman, as "an asshole" and said it really "wasn't much of a tragedy" when he was injured and paralyzed.

-
Maybe he just didn't like evil moonbats.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2018 06:37 PM (+y/Ru)

The first thing I thought was he must have said something nice about Reagan.

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 06:39 PM (+lOpA)

479 Nooooooo! The mob.

Posted by: Archer at May 14, 2018 06:39 PM (gbWkA)

480 some headline on Drudge about the u.n. planning to wipe out trans.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:39 PM (MTjB1)

481 "It's the milk hitting your face at 90 mph that sucks."

you are mixing up cause and effect.

Posted by: the Thot teaching our kids at May 14, 2018 06:39 PM (isIOX)

482 The federal government has a role to play in the marriage issue because the feds are the ones who decide which licenses and certifications must be accepted by other states. The Feds did the correct thing with respect to marriage in the DOMA. That was their exact function and carried out properly. The SCOTUS screwed the pooch on that one. Bigly.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2018 06:33 PM (4Db+5)

I love stay out of my bedroom except if I am gay, or want my spouse's pension, or want the state to pay for my baby or abortion or whatever. State licensed marriage and divorce is just fukn crazy.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:39 PM (JFO2v)

483 Isn't derecho a cultural appropriation?
Posted by: PhilDirt at May 14, 2018 06:36 PM (cJhrm).
----------

The last one appropriated a bunch of our trees, our deck umbrella and lifted our cast iron table over the deck rails and smashed the legs off when it hit the ground.

Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2018 06:39 PM (oMtOd)

484 473 I thought Kidder was as hard Left was Reeves was, which was a lot.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 14, 2018 06:37 PM (isIOX)

Remember when BDS blamed Bush for preventing Reeves from ever having a chance to walk?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 06:39 PM (2DOZq)

485 CBS News is spending all their time on the poor Palis tonight. Some women are having to remove their hijabs to put on gas masks. Sad.

Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2018 06:33 PM (UdKB7)
...............

Removing their hijabs? Yikes. The goats better run for cover tonight.

Posted by: wth at May 14, 2018 06:40 PM (HgMAr)

486 This SCOTUS decision had nothing to do with any of that. This was just a question of what the feral government can ban and what the states have the right to allow or ban.

That said, there is certainly a place in law for morality. It's pretty much the main function of law. Now, if someone tries to abuse that then that is a problem but the idea that all morality and social norms have no place in law is unrealistic and just, plain wrong.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2018 06:30 PM (4Db+5)

The question I replied to MOST CERTAINLY pertained to morality. That's why I copied it in my reply.

And, as I said in 353, The Individual States is where the power, such as it is, to create a mutually-beneficial community via Legislation clearly lies.

Law's main function is to dictate Morality, huh ?

I gotta' tell you folks - and this ain't much of a secret, really. I learned to distrust Democrats under Clinton. I learned to hate distrust the Republican Party under "W".

I've learned to hate Big Government Republicans here. Because there's no shortage of you. You people have no problem forcing your morality onto everyone else, via Government.

You're no different than Progressives ... and I got no common ground with either of you. You're just convenient allies for the moment - because you're losing.

But I have no doubt - after conversing with some of you up close - that if your kind EVER got Governmental Control on par with the Progressives of Today ... you'd be worse to live with than they are.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:40 PM (fiGNd)

487 well, the problem with actresses is that they all seem to go so young because they have been lying about their ages for so long.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:40 PM (MTjB1)

488 473 I thought Kidder was as hard Left was Reeves was, which was a lot.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 14, 2018 06:37 PM (isIOX)

++++

I don't know about her politics, but one of the pieces I read about her quotes her calling Reeves an asshole.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 14, 2018 06:40 PM (pvjTE)

489
In today's big news, restless muzzies riot because somewhat Christian nation opens embassy in Jewish capital. Film at 11.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 14, 2018 06:40 PM (r+sAi)

490 I just heard some clips from a March radio interview with Margot Kidder. She sounds like a hard case. She described Christopher Reeve, the guy who played Superman, as "an asshole" and said it really "wasn't much of a tragedy" when he was injured and paralyzed.

I was just about to comment on that. I guess the notion of not speaking ill of others when they're dead or have suffered a misfortune is old-fashioned.

Then color me old-fashioned.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 14, 2018 06:41 PM (NbPPt)

491 some headline on Drudge about the u.n. planning to wipe out trans.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:39 PM (MTjB1)

Just the fat ones. No one likes a ginormous drag queen.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2018 06:41 PM (4Db+5)

492 Just the fat ones. No one likes a ginormous drag queen.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:41 PM (MTjB1)

493
"The President is not my father and the State is not my God.

Politicians are not my heroes and bureaucrats are not my priests."

A religious gambling thread. Go figure.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 14, 2018 06:42 PM (aljs9)

494 470 Everything is a cultural appropriation.... unless you are Amish....
Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 06:37 PM (zSVEm)

I am sure romans had horse before cart.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:42 PM (JFO2v)

495 Justice Kennedy, same-sex marriage ruling. he still has not retired.

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 06:42 PM (bUjCl)

496 Remember when BDS blamed Bush for preventing Reeves from ever having a chance to walk?

If I recall it was about stem cell research

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 14, 2018 06:42 PM (dUJdY)

497 iSimilar the notion that any government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. when you have a government with the authority to implement the policies you approve of it has the same to do so for those of which you disapprove.

Not when the ones we have been waiting for are finally in charge and have absolute authority and an unlimited budget, because then your disapproval is a ticket to the re-education camp!!

There's a reason the Progs really like high speed rail!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 14, 2018 06:43 PM (n9EOP)

498 451 NoVA / DC / Baltimore about to get a derecho.

Like a 20-minute hurricane.

This is going to suck. I was about to head to the store. Good thing I saw a tweet before I left. NoVA getting dimed-sized hail right now.
Posted by: Arch Stanton at May 14, 2018 06:33 PM (MCbul)

I remember hearing about one of those a few years ago that was pretty destructive. Good luck.

Posted by: rickl at May 14, 2018 06:43 PM (sdi6R)

499 yasmina
@yasminaohwhaeva
Zionists pretty much control the media, disgusting how after all their crimes they still want to make Palestinians look guilty

Yeah, boy, they're bastards for shooting back.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2018 06:43 PM (+y/Ru)

500 489
In today's big news, restless muzzies riot because somewhat Christian nation opens embassy in Jewish capital. Film at 11.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 14, 2018 06:40 PM (r+sAi)

52 dead to Hamas just means less mouth to feed.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:44 PM (JFO2v)

501 Yes the media is full of joo love....

Posted by: steevy at May 14, 2018 06:44 PM (LiyEm)

502 I'm a Stay-Out-Of-It-Ist.

Because any Government you empower to promote what's "Good" for Society ... will get busy with Controlling Society according to what's Good for Government at the first possible damned opportunity. Happens every time. History is full of examples.

Leave people alone. If they decide they want The Nuclear Family ... they'll make one.

And if they don't ? You'll never make them.

You People spend too much fucking time worrying about how to coerce everyone else into doing what's best for them. If you'll just worry about doing what's best for you ... you'll be busy all the time.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:27 PM (fiGNd)

That's sweet. Now acknowledge that their relationship is the *exact* same as your marriage, and bake their cake.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 14, 2018 06:44 PM (ujg0T)

503 In possibly her final interview before her death, Kidder told WWJ's Sandra McNeill on May 9 she was "sad but not that sad" when her "Superman" co-star Christopher Reeve became a quadriplegic.

"The truth is he was kind of an a-----e," Kidder said before adding they had a brother-sister relationship and bickered a lot.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/05
/14/superman-star-margot-kidder-dead-at-69.html

The linked piece links to the audio clip of the interview.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 14, 2018 06:44 PM (pvjTE)

504 TOMAHAWK NOT TECH SUPPORT<<<<

Mohawk not Missiles.

Bows not Errors.

Casinos not Curry.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 14, 2018 06:44 PM (r+sAi)

505 Just the fat ones. No one likes a ginormous drag queen.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2018 06:41 PM (4Db+5)

Another federal department. USDPT, Dept. of Passible Trannys. A thirteen member board of virgin gamers with cards that read, UCKABLE and UNUCKABLE.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at May 14, 2018 06:44 PM (uNRi5)

506 Checked the weather map for the DC area..... hmmm.... might want to stay inside for a bit, you guys....

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 06:45 PM (zSVEm)

507 Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:40 PM (fiGNd)

Saying that the main purpose of law is the formalization of morality is not a big government thing. It's just what law is.

Where you differ is that you might not believe in any sort of morality, which is why you seem to want to have no laws - but that doesn't change the nature of law.

Tell me, do you think that stealing should be illegal? If so, why?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2018 06:45 PM (4Db+5)

508 Could you imagine this shit going on on our border? Hoo boy.

Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2018 06:45 PM (UdKB7)

509 Completely off topic But Bret Baier is a Swamp thing & I would love to nut punch, But I am pretty sure he hasn't got any

Posted by: Schneidermans Brown Slave at May 14, 2018 06:45 PM (y3aQB)

510

You People spend too much fucking time worrying about how to coerce everyone else into doing what's best for them. If you'll just worry about doing what's best for you ... you'll be busy all the time.

Whether you realize it or not, you're one of those "There are no Rulz!" postmodernistas who are contributing to the decline of society and the quality of life by not recognizing that...

1. There are such things as Good and Evil.

2. You'd better pick a side before the other side picks it for you.

3. Not wanting to promote and preserve the good insures the inevitable decay in societies that you just pointed out.

And I never thought I'd be called a "You People" here. This day is just full of surprises.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 14, 2018 06:46 PM (GdWl+)

511 496 Remember when BDS blamed Bush for preventing Reeves from ever having a chance to walk?

If I recall it was about stem cell research
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 14, 2018 06:42 PM (dUJdY)

Yes, embryonic stem cell research.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 06:46 PM (2DOZq)

512 52 dead to Hamas just means less mouth to feed.

Every single U.S. Spec.Ops trainee should have a final assignment w/the IDF. Put the "live" into live fire training.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2018 06:46 PM (ty7RM)

513 >>>Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:27 PM (fiGNd)

I've been away awhile. Is this a known troll or just a dick?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:46 PM (EUMr7)

514 There's a reason the Progs really like high speed rail!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 14, 2018 06:43 PM (n9EOP)

Yes! They know where you are at any time. And the love the jobs and regulations. You could eliminate every fare collector and ticket taker for about half their annual income.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:47 PM (JFO2v)

515 Good fences DO in fact make good neighbors.... except in Israel.....

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 06:47 PM (zSVEm)

516 Checked the weather map for the DC area..... hmmm.... might want to stay inside for a bit, you guys....

Ditto: North and west of StL metro.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2018 06:48 PM (ty7RM)

517 I've been away awhile. Is this a known troll or just a dick?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:46 PM (EUMr7)

Scogg is not a troll. He's a regular commenter. He just has a very unrealistic view of society and law. A Libertarian run wild, I would guess.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2018 06:48 PM (4Db+5)

518 Yes, embryonic stem cell research.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 06:46 PM (2DOZq)

So exactly how many babies should be killed to rehab Reeves. 3 5 8 44?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:48 PM (JFO2v)

519 513 >>>Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:27 PM (fiGNd)

I've been away awhile. Is this a known troll or just a dick?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:46 PM (EUMr7)

++++

He's a regular, but he can be a trollish dick at times.

Like many of us.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 14, 2018 06:48 PM (pvjTE)

520 >>>Good fences DO in fact make good neighbors.... except in Israel.....

"Fence" in Hebrew is the exact same word as "artillery". True fact.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:48 PM (EUMr7)

521 Tellme, do you think that stealing should be illegal? If so, why?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2018 06:45 PM (4Db+5)

But what if I wanted more than the person who has it?
( Rocket quote)

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 06:48 PM (2DOZq)

522 Just the fat ones. No one likes a ginormous drag queen.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2018 06:41 PM

Except for Flotilla DeBarge.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 14, 2018 06:49 PM (2NqXo)

523 Whether you realize it or not, you're one of those "There are no Rulz!" postmodernistas who are contributing to the decline of society and the quality of life by not recognizing that...

1. There are such things as Good and Evil.

2. You'd better pick a side before the other side picks it for you.

3. Not wanting to promote and preserve the good insures the inevitable decay in societies that you just pointed out.

And I never thought I'd be called a "You People" here. This day is just full of surprises.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May

the question is not do you want to preserve and promote the good, but how do you want to do so? Why do you think it is the job of the government to do so? What in the Constitution would make you think it was intended to do so.

preserving and promoting the good, defined as traditional American values is something I am in complete agreement with. relying upon the government to do so is not something I am in agreement with.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:49 PM (MTjB1)

524 Fair enough on the Scogg,

Thanks for the 411.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:49 PM (EUMr7)

525 You People spend too much fucking time worrying about how to coerce everyone else into doing what's best for them. If you'll just worry about doing what's best for you ... you'll be busy all the time.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:27 PM (fiGNd)
===========
That's sweet. Now acknowledge that their relationship is the *exact* same as your marriage, and bake their cake.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 14, 2018 06:44 PM (ujg0T)

Don't blame me. I'm not the one empowering Government to right all the wrongs within the States. We had this argument, here, a couple weeks ago.

My Stance - Get Government out of the States. They make things worse.

What was the Textual Scream from many of the Big Government Republicans ? "Why - Without Government enforcing things inside the States - We'd Still Have Slavery !!!"

Do It My Way ... and at worst, you can Get The Hell Out Of Oregon to Somewhere Sane. Like Texas.

Do It The Big Government Republican Way ... and you're forced to battle for control of the Federal Government Forever. Because you have no where to hide from them. The Federal Controls All.

Don't blame me. I didn't set the rules. And when I suggest a way where we all can at least pick for our own states - All The Big Government Republicans That Know Better shout that shit down.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:50 PM (fiGNd)

526 Being a pirate is addictive. Once you lose a hand, you're hooked.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2018 06:50 PM (+y/Ru)

527 511 496 Remember when BDS blamed Bush for preventing Reeves from ever having a chance to walk?

If I recall it was about stem cell research
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 14, 2018 06:42 PM (dUJdY)

Yes, embryonic stem cell research.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 06:46 PM (2DOZq)

*State funded* foetal tissue research. Because no private corporations would do it and reap the rewards or Nobel prizes with which they would no doubt be showered. Nope, only Big Government must do it. :-P

The Snake Oil of the 21st century.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 14, 2018 06:50 PM (ujg0T)

528 >>>And I never thought I'd be called a "You People" here

Well, I have been away, BB.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:50 PM (EUMr7)

529 519
He's a regular, but he can be a trollish dick at times.

Like many of us.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 14, 2018 06:48 PM (pvjTE)

Trollish dickery is in the eye of the beholder, oftentimes.

Posted by: rickl at May 14, 2018 06:51 PM (sdi6R)

530 526 -- that was dumb. lol

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 06:51 PM (+lOpA)

531
Maybe Sunday we can explore why young people today have no interest in Kerouac or any one in the "Beat" generation.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 06:51 PM (yrZFq)

532 All activities supporting vice and low class behavior: State's Rights BABY!!!

All activities supporting family and conservative values:
REGULATE IT!!!

Retards.

Posted by: Muns at May 14, 2018 06:52 PM (fO+6C)

533 Trollish Dickery was a character in a Dickens Novel, I think......

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 06:52 PM (zSVEm)

534 you'd be worse to live with than they are.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:40 PM (fiGNd)

Believe me, we've keeping our eyes on you!

What an old fashioned view of life and liberty:

"The Individual States is where the power, such as it is, to create a mutually-beneficial community via Legislation clearly lies."

Laws against robbing banks are mutually beneficial to society as a whole and make sense. Laws against same sex marriage are not obviously beneficial to society, but don't seem to harm anyone until suddenly a new class of privileged citizen has been created.

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 14, 2018 06:52 PM (n9EOP)

535 Do It My Way ... and at worst, you can Get The Hell Out Of Oregon to Somewhere Sane. Like Texas.

Do It The Big Government Republican Way ... and you're forced to battle for control of the Federal Government Forever. Because you have no where to hide from them. The Federal Controls All.

Don't blame me. I didn't set the rules. And when I suggest a way where we all can at least pick for our own states - All The Big Government Republicans That Know Better shout that shit down.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:50 PM (fiGNd)

You miss my point. The Left will NEVER do it your way.

Now bake that fucking cake.....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 14, 2018 06:52 PM (ujg0T)

536 418
405 OSP, EBT card?

Just today had a young woman use her card to buy vegetable plants. And the system let her.

How does that compute?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 14, 2018 06:21 PM (oo2tY)

In Destin about 5 years ago two young men get the PB, steak,
chicken, and the like with their EBT. Then each have several cases of
beer and carton of cigs with cash. I recognised them as working at a
nice restaurant in town. Was common practice for the cash based workers
to also get an EBT of their reported income.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2018 06:26 PM (JFO2v)

We pay for necessities so they can have the luxuries. My sister was behind someone who paid for lobster tails and steak with EBT. Nice. Shes still pissed about it.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 14, 2018 06:52 PM (aljs9)

537 >>>Trollish Dickery was a character in a Dickens Novel, I think......

She sold her chastity for 3 jiggers of gin as I recall.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:53 PM (EUMr7)

538
remember Sons Of Anarchy?

What a disappointing series.
It began centered on that mysterious manuscript written by Jackson's father.

And then it turned into trannies and shooting mom in the head.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 06:53 PM (yrZFq)

539
yep. stem cell research was the same as global warming, all about the govt cash. Its like EBT for over educated unemployables.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 14, 2018 06:53 PM (r+sAi)

540 preserving and promoting the good, defined as traditional American values is something I am in complete agreement with. relying upon the government to do so is not something I am in agreement with.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 14, 2018 06:49 PM (MTjB1)

It depends on what the particular issue is. Some things should not be proscribed in law. Some should. The problem with government is that there are always people who want to go too far, but the argument against that isn't that none of those things have a place in law. Many most certainly do.

And with state law, Americans always have the option to go to another state more to their liking, unlike with anything put into federal law.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 14, 2018 06:53 PM (4Db+5)

541 >>>All activities supporting vice and low class behavior: State's Rights BABY!!!
All activities supporting family and conservative values:

REGULATE IT!!!

Historically, not wrong.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:54 PM (EUMr7)

542 And I never thought I'd be called a "You People" here. This day is just full of surprises.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May

Turnabout's fair play ... who knew I was killing society ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 06:54 PM (fiGNd)

543 There are things we do as a society I want the government to handle. Those things are constitutional. Things that are not constitutional I don't want the government to handle.

Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2018 06:54 PM (UdKB7)

544 yep. stem cell research was the same as global warming, all about the govt cash. Its like EBT for over educated unemployables.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 14, 2018 06:53 PM (r+sAi)

It was the unholy alliance of:
1. Biotech Corporate Welfare whores,
2. Morbid abortionists, and
3. 21st century Snake Oil Salesmen

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 14, 2018 06:54 PM (ujg0T)

545 529
519

He's a regular, but he can be a trollish dick at times.

Like many of us.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 14, 2018 06:48 PM (pvjTE)

Trollish dickery is in the eye of the beholder, oftentimes.

Posted by: rickl at May 14, 2018 06:51 PM (sdi6R)

You rang?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 14, 2018 06:54 PM (aljs9)

546 I'd be more interested if they overturned the law that put that "idea futures exchange" out of business a few years ago. That also ran afoul of federal gambling law, IIRC.

Posted by: jdgalt at May 14, 2018 06:54 PM (3SFo/)

547 Turkey recalls ambassador to U.S. after embassy opening in Jerusalem

That'll teach us!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2018 06:55 PM (+y/Ru)

548 Sons of Anarchy featured that Neanderthal looking Progressive didn't it?? Dude is Uuuugly......

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 06:55 PM (zSVEm)

549 OT/but lmao

The royal wedding has just turned into a comedy, a dark one, but it is better than the Real Housewife franchise at this point.

Her father isn't coming, people are wondering if the mom will walk her daughter down the aisle wearing her nose ring; and, relatives Meghan didn't invite are showing up anyway, some to be on Broadcasts.

It really is like Royalty marries the Beverly Hillbillies.

Honestly, I wouldn't have invited certain of her relatives either. But to snub the one who got her the UN job and the Pastor, iirc, seemed a bridge too far. They live exemplary lives.

I feel bad laughing, but this girl cheated on her husband and sent back her rings in the mail. So, ya know, karma can be a bitch when it happens.

I'm a terrible person, but I can't stop laughing. The one person I feel bad for is her dad.

The Queen must be drinking her Dewars right now.

Posted by: Hamas at May 14, 2018 06:56 PM (St5qb)

550 The problem seems to be we don't abide by the constitution.

Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2018 06:56 PM (UdKB7)

551 >>>Sons of Anarchy featured that Neanderthal looking Progressive didn't it?? Dude is Uuuugly.....

Ron Perlman's career.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:56 PM (EUMr7)

552 Oops. Sock fail. lol

Posted by: PD; gg channel at May 14, 2018 06:56 PM (St5qb)

553 526 -- that was dumb. lol

Worse.. I laughed.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 14, 2018 06:56 PM (dUJdY)

554 550 The problem seems to be we don't abide by the constitution.
Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2018 06:56 PM (UdKB7)

That's been a problem since 1787.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 06:56 PM (2DOZq)

555 Bluebell, If you are around, did you come through the storm OK? The tornado warnibgs were in your area.

Posted by: JTB at May 14, 2018 06:56 PM (V+03K)

556 If nothing else moving the embassy is pulling out the antisemitism into the open.

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2018 06:57 PM (aC6Sd)

557 I think we should appoint a Czar of Trollish Dickery.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 14, 2018 06:57 PM (aljs9)

558 The Queen must be drinking her Dewars right now.
Posted by: Hamas at May 14, 2018 06:56 PM (St5qb)

The Royals have outstayed their usefulness at this point, no?

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 06:58 PM (+lOpA)

559 526 -- that was dumb. lol

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 06:51 PM (+lOpA)
........

I got a few nyuk-nyuks out of it, too.

Posted by: wth at May 14, 2018 06:58 PM (HgMAr)

560 Saying things you find disagreeable is not trollish dickery.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 14, 2018 06:58 PM (H5knJ)

561 >>>If nothing else moving the embassy is pulling out the antisemitism into the open.

Beautiful to watch.

As in no Dems showed up.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:58 PM (EUMr7)

562 553 526 -- that was dumb. lol

Worse.. I laughed.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 14, 2018 06:56 PM (dUJdY)

metoo

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 06:58 PM (+lOpA)

563 Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 06:53 PM (yrZFq)

Yeah I stuck with it to the end but it needed to end after season 6 and deal more with his fathers writings.

I had the pleasure of meeting Ron Perlman a few weeks ago when I went to Dallas. A very nice guy, funny as hell and wonderful with his fans.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 14, 2018 06:58 PM (dUJdY)

564 This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Pete Rose at May 14, 2018 06:58 PM (0/0WS)

565 Turnabout's fair play ... who knew I was killing society ?

==

I did, but did not want to alarm anybody so..stayed very, very quiet.

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 06:59 PM (bUjCl)

566 557 I think we should appoint a Czar of Trollish Dickery.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 14, 2018 06:57 PM (aljs9)

Czar Bob sounds like a friendly tyrant.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 06:59 PM (2DOZq)

567 >I think we should appoint a Czar of Trollish Dickery.

I SHALL RETURN!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 14, 2018 06:59 PM (xOU5y)

568 re: "Headline Corrected"... yeah, considering what pro sports have become in recent years, I'm pretty sure an argument centered on "protecting their integrity" would've been laughed right out of the Court.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... now with 23% more Dragon Energy! at May 14, 2018 06:59 PM (wSC8T)

569 >>>I think we should appoint a Czar of Trollish Dickery.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 14, 2018 06:57 PM (aljs9)

I love the title "Tsar" (ahem)
Ahem.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:59 PM (EUMr7)

570 The Czar of Trollish Dickery should speak with an English accent.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 14, 2018 06:59 PM (aljs9)

571 You miss my point. The Left will NEVER do it your way.

Now bake that fucking cake.....
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 14, 2018 06:52 PM (ujg0T)

And you miss mine ... The Left can only use Federal Government to compel that shit because many on The Right went right along with building a Government Big Enough to do so.

That's the problem with a Federal Government doing more than borders, armies, and roads.

But, doing good ain't got no end, as Captain RedLegs said in that cinematic classic.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 07:00 PM (fiGNd)

572
I had the pleasure of meeting Ron Perlman a few weeks ago when I went to Dallas. A very nice guy, funny as hell and wonderful with his fans.

Oh nice. He seems down to earth.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 07:00 PM (yrZFq)

573 560 Saying things you find disagreeable is not trollish dickery.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 14, 2018 06:58 PM (H5knJ)

Painting everyone as a naive slave to government is .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 07:01 PM (2DOZq)

574
Acuckolypse Now

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 07:01 PM (yrZFq)

575 I love the title "Tsar" (ahem)
Ahem.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 06:59 PM (EUMr7)

Oh...did I put a C? Lol....and shut up Herr.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 14, 2018 07:01 PM (aljs9)

576
Lonesome Cuck?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 14, 2018 07:01 PM (yrZFq)

577 Drudge has a link to a Politico article about Melania's surgery. The lefty comments are disgusting.
I'll never go to that site, unless Drudge tricks me again.

Posted by: wth at May 14, 2018 07:02 PM (HgMAr)

578 A Piece of Cuck.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... now with 23% more Dragon Energy! at May 14, 2018 07:02 PM (wSC8T)

579 The president is not my father and the state is not my God.

Posted by: phone of kari at May 14, 2018 07:02 PM (B7nWc)

580 A good polity should make few laws and change them seldom because laws should merely reinforce what the vast majority of the citizens are going to do anyway. Using the law to try to force the majority of the citizens to change is evil and counterproductive. We have been living together for five thousand years. Do we really need 20 thousand new laws and regulations a year to help us to do that?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 14, 2018 07:02 PM (yQpMk)

581 Bill Kristol -- Cuck Czar.

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 07:02 PM (+lOpA)

582 I saw Trollish Dickery open for the Beastie Boys at the Palladium in 1998

Posted by: runner at May 14, 2018 07:03 PM (bUjCl)

583 Nood czar!

Posted by: eleven at May 14, 2018 07:03 PM (+lOpA)

584 566 557 I think we should appoint a Czar of Trollish Dickery.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 14, 2018 06:57 PM (aljs9)

Czar Bob sounds like a friendly tyrant.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 14, 2018 06:59 PM (2DOZq)

++++

Friendlier than Cannibal Bob, anyway.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 14, 2018 07:03 PM (pvjTE)

585 Hi JTB - yes, thank you, we are fine! Still thundering and lightning and pouring here but the hail is done and the wind aren't bad and the tornado warning expired. Yay us!

Posted by: bluebell at May 14, 2018 07:03 PM (oMtOd)

586 Cuckenstein.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... now with 23% more Dragon Energy! at May 14, 2018 07:03 PM (wSC8T)

587 And you miss mine ... The Left can only use Federal Government to compel that shit because many on The Right went right along with building a Government Big Enough to do so.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 07:00 PM (fiGNd)

"Full faith and credit" called and its wants its armies back. Commerce clause, however mutated, will chime in too.

Certain issues like it or not will get fought at the Federal / national level

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 14, 2018 07:03 PM (ujg0T)

588 the question is not do you want to preserve and promote the good, but how do you want to do so? Why do you think it is the job of the government to do so? What in the Constitution would make you think it was intended to do so.
---
The Constitution has *context*. The context of the Constitution is that we the *People* of the United States would agree on what forms a "more perfect union".

Self-governance is the enveloping context. The Constitution is a strategy to achieve a self-governed people.

And what is self-governance? It's what the people agree to be governed by. There were 13 *different* republics represented in the *union* of states, banded together by common interests. To suggest that there is a single correct "Constitutional" pure form of republic out of that is to not understand what a union of sovereign states was.

Thus the Constitution is not some Writ of All Government, instead it's a structure granting more power to a central body but restraining that federal entity from overly interfering with the people's preferred governance.

Posted by: Axeman at May 14, 2018 07:03 PM (vDqXW)

589 I had someone point out once that God is not an American...
had to think about that one.....

Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2018 07:03 PM (zSVEm)

590 Cuck A Doodle II: Man Bun Boogaloo.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 14, 2018 07:04 PM (EoRCO)

591 Gees!!! ya guys are brutal.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 14, 2018 07:04 PM (aljs9)

592 I am the new willow.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 14, 2018 07:04 PM (yQpMk)

593 Glad to hear it, bluebell.

Posted by: rickl at May 14, 2018 07:04 PM (sdi6R)

594 Total Recuck.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... now with 23% more Dragon Energy! at May 14, 2018 07:04 PM (wSC8T)

595

preserving and promoting the good, defined as traditional American values is something I am in complete agreement with. relying upon the government to do so is not something I am in agreement with.

It wasn't all that long ago that two people of the same sex couldn't get a marriage license for some very good reasons. One very real reason was the likelihood of contracting and spreading some nasty diseases, but we never ever hear about that aspect of homosexuality these days, do we?

This is a Chesterton's Fence thing for me. I believe in ancient wisdoms and truth. They all speak of good versus evil.
All. Of. Them. Do.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 14, 2018 07:04 PM (GdWl+)

596 No ... not Lonesome Cuck ... and not fucking Acuckolypse Now.

The movie was obviously One Flew Over the Cuck-Cuck's Nest.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to completely fuck-up my neighbor's property values by planting my cabbages.

Because Sea-Bass is right !!! I want Survival of the Fittest. Tactical Face Colanders !!! Assless Chaps and a Cripple-Mute Boy throwing Death Boomerangs !!!

Because I'm a dirty no-good pot smoking open-borders Libertarian. No way am I an Old-School Federalist or "little r" republican.

No. Fucking. Way.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 14, 2018 07:05 PM (fiGNd)

597 Greycuck: The Legend of Manbun, Lord of the Simps.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... now with 23% more Dragon Energy! at May 14, 2018 07:06 PM (wSC8T)

598 A Fistful of Cucks.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... now with 23% more Dragon Energy! at May 14, 2018 07:08 PM (wSC8T)

599 585 ... Bluebell, Thanks for letting us know. Glad to hear it. We just got heavy winds and rain, no hail. We got lucky.

Posted by: JTB at May 14, 2018 07:09 PM (V+03K)

600 Mr. Scogg, I think you are conflating two things. I agree with your @420, that if you give any power to the government, it will eventually become corrupted and bite you in the ass, even if it initially has good effects.

OTOH contra @385, I think that the conservative desire to propagate and preserve "what's best for society" does not necessarily lead to the path of giving the government the power to regulate things, although that certainly has been the case on many occasions (eg. prohibition). Instead of saying "you are absolutely no different from progressives", it might be more helpful to say something like "you should try to implement your goals in ways that don't involve more government regulation, since that will always be co-opted". Lack of government regulation will provide the most freedom to achieve their goals in the long run.

---------------------------

@385 There's a breed of folks, including Conservatives, that absolutely love to use the Power of the State to coerce the behavior of others.

Those folks - of course - see it as What's Best For Society, What's Moral, etc... etc...

To You Folks - You are absolutely no different than Progressives. Oh ... sure ... you worship different Gods. You differ over the Particulars.
------------------------------------
@420 Because any Government you empower to promote what's "Good" for Society ... will get busy with Controlling Society according to what's Good for Government at the first possible damned opportunity. Happens every time. History is full of examples.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 14, 2018 07:10 PM (/qEW2)

601 Oh, hey, there's a nood Comey da Clown.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... now with 23% more Dragon Energy! at May 14, 2018 07:11 PM (wSC8T)

602 >>>Oh...did I put a C? Lol....and shut up Herr.

Tough but righteous.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 14, 2018 07:18 PM (EUMr7)

603 Because any Government you empower to promote what's "Good" for Society ... will get busy with Controlling Society according to what's Good for Government at the first possible damned opportunity. Happens every time. History is full of examples.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 14, 2018 07:10 PM (/qEW2)
---
So what?

If that's not good for society--to keep government from acting for the "good of society" then we're simply not controlling people toward the end of the good of society.

Libertarians have a collective plan. Their characteristic embrace of Big Judiciary has shown that they just want things run according to libertarian theory with Big Judiciary to step in like a referee and balance things out.

Posted by: Axeman at May 14, 2018 07:23 PM (vDqXW)

604 Didn't Clinton V. Lewinski establish that blow jobs weren't sex?

Posted by: An Observation at May 14, 2018 07:26 PM (pam24)

605 I'll be damned. They actually put a horse back in the barn.

It's about time. "Free Country" and all.

Hopefully they tackle federal drug laws soon.

Posted by: Not Enough Lamp Posts at May 14, 2018 07:30 PM (S1+dw)

606 No doubt in 605 earlier comments a number of people have said what I'm about to. With all respect to our attorney host, the Supreme Court has on numerous occasions upheld both the fact that when a state law conflicts with federal law, the latter shall prevail (the supremacy clause).
Second, the court has never in the past shied away from ruling that its decisions apply explicitly to *state* behavior rather than individual behavior. For example, Oklahoma was, if not the first state to pass term limits on its congresswhores, then one of the first. Supreme Court overturned that state-level decision on the grounds that the states were barred from imposing any more-restrictive conditions for their congresscritters than stated in the Constitution.
Third: Poll taxes and state photo-ID laws for voting have been overturned by the court, despite being state-level behaviors these.
Finally, saw a quote from Ruth Ginsburg today, saying that when the court found a defect in a federal law, legal precedent was for the court to simply remedy the defect in the objectionable part--i.e. to act as legislators. That's flatly wrong: In a great number of cases the court has ruled exactly the reverse--that it *cannot* act as legislature, and can only rule the entire law to be unconstitutional; that any re-write or remedy must come from congress. But then again, it's Ginsburg, so a) she's senile; and b) I suspect she may well have thought her version was true from law school on.
Leftists are probably cheering all this wildly: we've officially gotten to the point that "settled case law" changes every day, even on major points like federal supremacy and whether the feds can compel *state governments* to do or refrain from doing something.

Posted by: sf at May 14, 2018 10:39 PM (fmJQu)

607 Posted by: sf at May 14, 2018 10:39 PM (fmJQu)
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The difference seems to be that when the Executive or Legislative function of federal government (those based not on "I just think...") infringe on the state's jurisdiction, the court has a pretty good record of rolling it back.

But when the court thinks it should override local judgment, it just does. Incorporation, and all. Not quite like the Anti-federalists warned, but close enough.

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