Game-Show Host of Who's Inside My Wife? Jeff Flake: Now That I'm Not Running For Office, Get This, I've Changed My Mind Completely On the Iran Deal

Huh -- a #FakeNews Republican changes his opinion to what it's always really been the moment he's not running for office. Who saw that coming, besides everybody.

(Except at the Weekly Standard, which still has a childlike faith in its heroes.)

Now that this loathsome traitor no longer is running for office, and only has to please whatever NeverTrump billionaire he winds up working for, he can repudiate his prior #FakeNews opposition to the Iran Deal.

Like John McCain, he evolves in office, then evolves a lot more when departing office.




Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:53 PM




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1 Hello out there.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 05:46 PM (CoKlX)

2 Losers gonna lose.

Posted by: Scottst at May 08, 2018 05:46 PM (3IOxs)

3 Muh principles!

Good gawd how many masks have fallen since Trump started winning in the primaries

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 08, 2018 05:46 PM (TN1P5)

4 The fact that a media outlet would search out this particular guy to expound on the Iran deal when all he is is a south western politician on his way out...speaks volumes.

Posted by: Orson at May 08, 2018 05:47 PM (kAgfZ)

5 Poetry.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 08, 2018 05:47 PM (Dp6qK)

6 The funny thing is everyone knows the Iran deal is a fraud.

Posted by: Caliban at May 08, 2018 05:48 PM (QE8X6)

7 The Big Boss Man banished Jeff Flake to the nether regions of CNN.. Jeff is acting like it was his choice.. winning!

Posted by: Diogenese other brother Darrell at May 08, 2018 05:48 PM (ICWiF)

8 Flake gonna flake.

Posted by: Scottst at May 08, 2018 05:48 PM (3IOxs)

9 Y'all leave my brother alone! He's the serious one in the family.

Posted by: Corn Flake at May 08, 2018 05:49 PM (QE8X6)

10 Jeff Flake and Jake Tapper, professional clowns.

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at May 08, 2018 05:50 PM (Ftuf+)

11 Has Random Hawain Judge Number 5 weighed in yet?

Because nothings official until it get the imprimatur of some random judge.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 08, 2018 05:50 PM (UfMVm)

12 I'll take DNA profiling for 200. Alex

Posted by: Diogenese other brother Darrell at May 08, 2018 05:50 PM (ICWiF)

13 I kinda wish these chickenforkers had the decency to declare their true affections when they were running for office.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 05:50 PM (CoKlX)

14 Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 05:46 PM (CoKlX)

Thing! How have you been doing?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 05:50 PM (rp9xB)

15 Today would be a really good day for "sanctioning" every square inch of every stinking base in Iran. That would put the real-deal punctuation to something that we all know is needed. Then of course, there are the Hezblowla, and Hamasess folks that should burst into flames today ... just as an afterthought kind of thing. Go today, Israel, let's light this thing up at long last.

Posted by: goon at May 08, 2018 05:51 PM (PEcU2)

16 Wait, if getting ot of the deal now is bad because we already gave them the money, how in the fuck does staying in ensure they keep their end of the deal?

They already got their burger and wimpy here is telling us that we should wait until next Thursday to get our end of the deal.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 08, 2018 05:51 PM (TN1P5)

17 Flake, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has been viewed as more willing than most Republicans to support foreign policy objectives on the part of the Obama administration, including its moves with Cuba.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - at May 08, 2018 05:52 PM (roQNm)

18 Tapper: "Can't get Juan McCain? Damn, I always count on him taking a shot a Trump. Okay, Flake will have to do".

Posted by: WisRich at May 08, 2018 05:52 PM (G0vdT)

19 I am so happy over this Iran situation. I mean, I know a federal judge will block it and force us to stay in the abusive relationship, but for now I'm very proud of my president.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 08, 2018 05:52 PM (VgKNm)

20
Proud member of the #TapperHarem, Jefe Flake, prides himself on his elegantly raised pinkie finger when he delicately takes a sip of Jake's penis.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 08, 2018 05:53 PM (+8Yuj)

21 Jeff Flake is my beloved son. Listen to him.

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 08, 2018 05:53 PM (QE8X6)

22 15 Today would be a really good day for "sanctioning" every square inch of every stinking base in Iran. That would put the real-deal punctuation to something that we all know is needed. Then of course, there are the Hezblowla, and Hamasess folks that should burst into flames today ... just as an afterthought kind of thing. Go today, Israel, let's light this thing up at long last.
Posted by: goon at May 08, 2018 05:51 PM (PEcU2)

Israel could wipe out the whole ME with out help fron the US or going nuclear,, their Air Force alone is adequate no?

Posted by: Diogenese other brother Darrell at May 08, 2018 05:53 PM (ICWiF)

23 I just don't think that it's a wise move - Jeff Flake

FIFH.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 05:54 PM (oYp/M)

24 When you change your positions on your way out of office, it doesn't make you look brave.

I kinda makes you look like a big fat liar.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 05:54 PM (h2Bdk)

25 What an apt name. It would only be better if his first name were Richard,

Posted by: Buford Gooch at May 08, 2018 05:54 PM (bOtTO)

26 What is it about these nevertrump people that their heads are sloped to one side?

Posted by: ryukyu at May 08, 2018 05:54 PM (Lb4wQ)

27 The Iran deal was Obama's legacy.

Why should we, the United States, be on the hook?

They really do think Obama was King.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 08, 2018 05:55 PM (TN1P5)

28 Exactly why did Obama ship them pallets of untraceable hard currency? Was that in the "deal"?

Posted by: Max Power at May 08, 2018 05:55 PM (q177U)

29 Bill Kristol is the game show host of Press Your Cuck.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 08, 2018 05:55 PM (89T5c)

30 If Iran thinks the deal is good , it has to be good...

Posted by: muckrack at May 08, 2018 05:55 PM (aVXQe)

31
Jefe's cousin, Dandruff Flake, could not be reached for comment.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 08, 2018 05:55 PM (+8Yuj)

32 26 What is it about these nevertrump people that their heads are sloped to one side?
Posted by: ryukyu at May 08, 2018 05:54 PM (Lb4wQ
I know.. heh heh

Posted by: Diogenese other brother Darrell at May 08, 2018 05:56 PM (ICWiF)

33 The really weird thing is that there is NO constituency for backing Iran here in this country - it is an outrageously anti-American position to take, and yet Flake and Kasich and the rest of the Never Trumpers are so sold on this that they're now determined to attack their own countries best interests, just because it's the opposite of what Trump wants.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 05:56 PM (k1TUh)

34 Good lord that dude is soft

Posted by: An Actual Pussy at May 08, 2018 05:56 PM (x6Z0/)

35 I suppose we could tell the others there is a new thread... or not...

Posted by: kraken at May 08, 2018 05:56 PM (pL6Vz)

36 @28

And the kicker is it wasn't even US currency, I believe the entire palette of US cash was converted to Euros which makes the laundering even more untraceable.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 08, 2018 05:56 PM (UfMVm)

37 How are WE unreliable!? Idiotic silliness. Should'a, could'a, would'a, is real cool when you don't have to slap your stuff into the vice and wait for the reality wheel to turn one way or the other. Place you bets. Hate is the only thing that is going to save us. It fuels our opposition, so there must be something useful in juice. Let it loose!

Posted by: goon at May 08, 2018 05:57 PM (PEcU2)

38 Super early OT, but computer semi-emergency.

I was using my desktop when the monitor suddenly went off. Nothing changed in the tone of the computer, so I *think* it's the monitor and not the graphics card. The light is also not on or blinking for the monitor. I'd blame the cat knocking a cord loose ( she likes to wander behind the desk and tower) but she was with me and couldn't be guilty this time. Anything else I should check before looking for a new monitor?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 05:57 PM (rp9xB)

39 Tapper Clapper and Fake Flake.

Dumb and dumber.

Posted by: Cheri at May 08, 2018 05:57 PM (oiNtH)

40 As a principled, pro-America conservative patriot, I believe we should re-enter the Iran deal and pay Iran reparations for us even thinking about wanting out of it.

Posted by: Flakey Jeff at May 08, 2018 05:57 PM (Brjj7)

41 That's two dumb fuckers I won't be watching.

Posted by: nip at May 08, 2018 05:57 PM (ECLaL)

42 Chimes.....
fluck off fake boy
wuhan china.

One point three trillion.
1,300,000,000,000.00
A million million has no sense for largesse.

omnibus alright, all aboard!
Turtles soon to be hardest hit, or nothing.

Posted by: micky at May 08, 2018 05:58 PM (dF9Lb)

43 Hi guys I'm not gonna try to catch up but it appears the winning continues.

Posted by: freaked at May 08, 2018 05:58 PM (UdKB7)

44 Flip-Flop Flake

Posted by: Surfperch at May 08, 2018 05:58 PM (Brjj7)

45 38 Super early OT, but computer semi-emergency.

I was using my desktop when the monitor suddenly went off. Nothing changed in the tone of the computer, so I *think* it's the monitor and not the graphics card. The light is also not on or blinking for the monitor. I'd blame the cat knocking a cord loose ( she likes to wander behind the desk and tower) but she was with me and couldn't be guilty this time. Anything else I should check before looking for a new monitor?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 05:57 PM (rp9xB)



I suspect an EMP occurence, or rodents chewing the power cords...

Posted by: kraken at May 08, 2018 05:58 PM (pL6Vz)

46 I find it precious when Tapper pretends that he is a serious journalist.

Posted by: Cheri at May 08, 2018 05:58 PM (oiNtH)

47 Not First !!! Not Top Ten !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 08, 2018 05:59 PM (EV+4+)

48 Flakey Jeff also says that if Blankenship wins in WV today, he'll donate to Donk Manchin.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 08, 2018 05:59 PM (+y/Ru)

49 O/T - City of Phoenix isn't too fond of the First Amendment.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybn7bmyo

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at May 08, 2018 05:59 PM (nILVB)

50 36: correct. The whole things stinks to high heaven.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 08, 2018 05:59 PM (89T5c)

51 I also love knowing how pissed of Valerie Jarret must be. Ferallahsake, Hillary. You had ONE Job.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 08, 2018 05:59 PM (VgKNm)

52 I vaguely remember expecting big things from Jeff Flake in the aftermath of Obama's first win. Because he seemed like a principled conservative who would stand up to the Left.

Yeah.

Posted by: T at May 08, 2018 06:00 PM (MmeCn)

53 Again:

Obama instituting the Iran NotTreatyDeal - Not Within Presidential Purview.


Trump rescinding Iran NotTreatyDeal - Within Presidential Purview.



Carry On.

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2018 06:00 PM (m0ex2)

54 Yoohoo cousin Jeffy!!! I know you remember our time together. Crossing swords was so delicious, tee hee!

Posted by: Frosted Flake at May 08, 2018 06:00 PM (B2l13)

55 Anything else I should check before looking for a new monitor?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 05:57 PM (rp9xB)


You're gonna' need a Hot Iron, some Duct Tape, and some Maxi-Pads.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 08, 2018 06:01 PM (EV+4+)

56 Anything else I should check before looking for a new monitor?

Will the cap lock light turn on and off? If so that indicates the computer is on and working. Also, can you get the monitor's settings to come up. The computer doesn't even have to be on for those to work.

Posted by: freaked at May 08, 2018 06:01 PM (UdKB7)

57 Re: monitor

Make sure it's not on a power strip that needs resetting. Check the back to make sure the plug is seated in the monitor receptacle.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 08, 2018 06:01 PM (VgKNm)

58 Is that April Ryan again on the left? She's been on the blog all day!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm Your Huckleberry! at May 08, 2018 06:02 PM (rBnYq)

59 PDT's speech today was commanding and befitting of a true Commander in Chief. Iran was officially put on notice. the small band of radicals that took over the country during the Carter Administration has grown into a massive conglomerate of terror inciting worldwide dominance. Trump put the fear of the Lord into the inward part of these men today...The good part is he means it. Israel is ready to pounce and is doing so as I type...

Posted by: Diogenese other brother Darrell at May 08, 2018 06:02 PM (ICWiF)

60 But opposition to the Iran deal was actually a very NeoCon position.

Remember, the NeverTrumpers told us Trump's big problem is he was an isolationist and was willing to turn a blind eye to our enemies. A true isolationist would go along with the Iran deal.

This is exactly the way Europeans deal with problems. Sign some stupid piece of paper so they can get back to selling Airbuses and Louis Vuitton handbags and kick the can.

Posted by: Maritime at May 08, 2018 06:02 PM (lKmt3)

61 Shep is the host of Tic-Tac-Blow.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 08, 2018 06:02 PM (89T5c)

62 What kind of monitor is it, anyway....

Posted by: kraken at May 08, 2018 06:02 PM (pL6Vz)

63 If it's monitor with an external power supply it could be that. Pick it up and see if it's warm.

Posted by: freaked at May 08, 2018 06:02 PM (UdKB7)

64 First, ace, let me be the first to offer you and the Horde joyous greetings on V-E Day. 73 years ago today (or the night before, in France, or at midnight tonight, in Berlin).


Second, I think "loathsome traitor" is a big charitable here.


I'm a one-note on these people on these topics, for a reason. They're stupid. These people are stupid. They don't know, or understand, the world, they can't reason intelligently about it, their "positions" are not worth analyzing. Because they're stupid.


Take this idiot Rhodes. Not just no background - stupid guy. Working for a pretty dim bunch of guys. It's still stunning to me that people of such low ability ever got anywhere near an important job, much less the top jobs in what was once the most important country in the world.


Oh - and somebody on the twatters just called Rubin the dumbest pundit. Dunno - I'd say there's a 100-way tie for that title, but we'd have to establish some criteria and get into the weeds.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2018 06:03 PM (QDnY+)

65 Flake is aptly named.

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2018 06:03 PM (LiyEm)

66 I'm not inviting Trump to my funeral. Kind of a thing we do in Flakeville.

Posted by: Jeff Flake of Flakesville, Az at May 08, 2018 06:03 PM (rBnYq)

67 Polliwog ... don't trust a cat! The cat could have gone back there and loosened those cables days ago, that's what cats do! Then, they can climb up onto the desk at some future date and kind-of plop down with a thump and look real innocent! Cat's are from the middle-East, right? They don't have to follow any rules ... except the ones that they make up for everyone else. Lock the cat in a cupboard and then examine every connection before you acquit. If the cat don't fit, you must acquit!

Posted by: goon at May 08, 2018 06:03 PM (PEcU2)

68
Jeff Flake: Now That I'm Not Running For Office, Get This, I've Changed My Mind Completely On the Iran Deal

This confirms Trump did the right thing.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 08, 2018 06:04 PM (Rsnnp)

69 oh wait...that's a cuck joke.

Brilli

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 08, 2018 06:04 PM (sB8d1)

70 Silly Flake, the Dems still won't have you, probably not even if you came out as closet gay or announced you were transitioning gender. and I hope if you've been promised a fat lobbyist job to be traitorous they only gave you verbal assurances and they yank the rug out on you come January.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 08, 2018 06:04 PM (eASYU)

71 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 05:57 PM


Windows update. Yesterday (?) windows installed a new monitor driver that made the monitor blink, but that was all.

If you can't reboot then unplug the desktop and force a hard reboot and see if the monitor comes up.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - at May 08, 2018 06:04 PM (roQNm)

72 "You're gonna' need a Hot Iron, some Duct Tape, and some Maxi-Pads."

And ball bearings. Come on, fellas, it's ALL ball bearings these days!

Posted by: Irwin M. Fletcher at May 08, 2018 06:04 PM (H6hqw)

73 Flake- A Limerick by Surfperch

Voters made a massive mistake,
When they elected a con-man named Flake,
He acted quite strange,
As his positions did change,
'Til it was clear he was a lying fake.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 08, 2018 06:05 PM (Brjj7)

74
You know that chick who used to dance a lot?

What did she do every night? Specifically.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 08, 2018 06:05 PM (NJeCt)

75 I really feel Jeff's tie.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at May 08, 2018 06:05 PM (B2l13)

76 Who's Inside My Wife? What channel is that on?

Posted by: Bill Kristol at May 08, 2018 06:05 PM (O5Q3r)

77 Why are the hoi polloi so far beneath me?

Speaking figuratively of course, since I'm not really that tall.

Posted by: Prince Geoffroi de Flakeville at May 08, 2018 06:05 PM (rBnYq)

78 Overhead in the Senate washroom: "refresh my memory. Where is Iran? I keep getting it mixed up with Ireland."

Posted by: Guam tipper at May 08, 2018 06:05 PM (/DvFd)

79 WTF is wrong with the AZ water?

Reverse osmosis people. Reverse. Osmosis.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 08, 2018 06:05 PM (r9UYA)

80 another GOP Cuck Fuck Who Sucks who doesn't represent any actual American...except pelosi, i guess.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 08, 2018 06:05 PM (sB8d1)

81 Sometimes shaking the monitor helps.... it's like an Etch- A-Sketch, fundamentally....

Posted by: kraken at May 08, 2018 06:06 PM (pL6Vz)

82 I'm sorry to bid the Froghemoth thread adieu, but this is good too.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 08, 2018 06:06 PM (qJtVm)

83 Hillary is the host of Card Sharts.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 08, 2018 06:06 PM (89T5c)

84 >>Who's Inside My Wife? What channel is that on?


The Gorilla Channel

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2018 06:06 PM (m0ex2)

85 Hey, remember a couple of years ago when he was a super-conservative hero, like Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan?

Posted by: FaCubeItches at May 08, 2018 06:06 PM (rznWS)

86 That's it! My schadenboner will not be flaccid until tomorrow morning but I could be wrong. Trump may schlong some more of the swamp in the meantime.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 08, 2018 06:07 PM (pw+jk)

87 We need to get a list going of all the faux-conservatives who flip-flopped on the Iran deal.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 08, 2018 06:07 PM (3dsTO)

88 61 Shep is the host of Tic-Tac-Blow.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 08, 2018 06:02 PM (89T5c)

The third part's my favorite!

Posted by: SHEP at May 08, 2018 06:07 PM (Brjj7)

89 After I leave office I will be unemployed and open for business! Anyone want me to say something? Anyone?

Posted by: Jeff Flake, Assistant Tumor Keeper at May 08, 2018 06:07 PM (rBnYq)

90 >>Hey, remember a couple of years ago when he was a super-conservative hero, like Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan?


Didn't Glenn Beck (remember that guy?) have Jeff Flakes cock in his mouth for like 4-6 months?

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2018 06:07 PM (m0ex2)

91 85 Hey, remember a couple of years ago when he was a super-conservative hero, like Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan?
Posted by: FaCubeItches at May 08, 2018 06:06 PM (rznWS)

We all had lower standards before Trump....

Posted by: kraken at May 08, 2018 06:07 PM (pL6Vz)

92 So, Real Housewives of Tempe, with Flake and Bob Corker. But who's the bitchy one?

Posted by: JEM at May 08, 2018 06:07 PM (u7ERy)

93 I've missed all the fun threads today.


CURSE YOU, GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT!!

Posted by: Judge Togulungamalkiki at May 08, 2018 06:07 PM (yQpMk)

94 dammit dammit dammit

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:08 PM (yQpMk)

95 Why give these people airtime?

OK. OK.

Posted by: golfman at May 08, 2018 06:08 PM (If3tB)

96 84 Hosted by The Paolo

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2018 06:08 PM (LiyEm)

97 but seriously folks, Corker must be bleeding from thye asshole over all this Iran deal stuff.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:08 PM (yQpMk)

98 Flake is already getting McCain on the Ouija board.

Posted by: Miklos, insider info guy at May 08, 2018 06:08 PM (zCyNd)

99 Still has the same standards about not paying his debts though, right?

Posted by: TexasDan at May 08, 2018 06:09 PM (yL25O)

100 Who got Ace the meth today?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 08, 2018 06:09 PM (oVJmc)

101 The Nevertrumper only has one sacred principle:

"I oppose whatever Trump does, even if that means a full reversal of what I previously stood for."

It is trutly pathetic.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:09 PM (39g3+)

102 You know that chick who used to dance a lot?

What did she do every night? Specifically.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 08, 2018 06:05 PM (NJeCt)

She'd be on the floor shakin what she's got.
Man, when I tell you she was cool she was red hot I mean she was steaming.

Now, where's the jailbreak going to be?

Posted by: Judge Smails at May 08, 2018 06:09 PM (z79tQ)

103 @60

It's even more sinister than that.

There is an entrneched globalist cabal that does not want to solve problems because if you truly solved problems you would not need problem solvers.

They want to manage problems, control problems, etc because then they can inhabit 6-7 figure positions as negotiaors, attaches, inspectors, managers, fucntionaries, etc.

The deep state is deep and wide.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 08, 2018 06:09 PM (UfMVm)

104


*****!!SHART!!******

Mmmm it's nice and warm

Posted by: HilRod at May 08, 2018 06:09 PM (B2l13)

105 For a bombastic loudmouth extrovert with no couth, Trump is surprisingly subtle and adept at stepping back and letting these idiots hang themselves.

It's like he knows how make deals and play the long game.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 08, 2018 06:09 PM (qJtVm)

106 An awful lot of people seem to want Iran to get nukes.

Posted by: rickl at May 08, 2018 06:09 PM (sdi6R)

107 Trump is really bringing it.


He leads. He decides. He takes action. It's really kinda remarkable.


I have a feeling it's going to continue - next chapter, China/trade and NAFTA. I hope/expect he's going to break some more china, to use an expression.


Guy is establishing tremendous credibility abroad (contra the idiotic childish crap splashed all over the "news" today).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2018 06:09 PM (QDnY+)

108
Overhead in the Senate washroom: "refresh my memory. Where is Iran? I keep getting it mixed up with Ireland."

Posted by: Guam tipper at May 08, 2018 06:05 PM (/DvFd)


Oh, man. The Irish with nuclear weapons...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 08, 2018 06:10 PM (gBlJt)

109 Flake was against the Iran appeasement before he was for it.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:10 PM (ujg0T)

110
In the olden days, some people were called "Simple."
Not as an insult, but as a fact.

Nobody says "simple" anymore. Today you hear pejoratives such as "simpleton" or "simpleminded" but never plain ol' simple.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 08, 2018 06:10 PM (NJeCt)

111 Does anyone have the long list of what the Recucklicans/True Conservatism, Inc. really believes? All I have is the short list and there doesn't appear to be anything on it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 08, 2018 06:10 PM (P5G1u)

112 Who got Ace the meth today?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 08, 2018 06:09 PM (oVJmc)

Might have some Federalist interlopers.

He's "recharged".

Posted by: golfman at May 08, 2018 06:10 PM (If3tB)

113 Ogden's Nut Gone Flake

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 08, 2018 06:11 PM (3dsTO)

114 >>Who got Ace the meth today?


First Tuesday in May.

LauraW takes him in for delousing, a shampoo and then he gets his anal glands expressed before they trim his nails and give him his rabies booster.

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2018 06:11 PM (m0ex2)

115 This Friday I'll be hosting a Flake Roast in honor of Jeff's retirement. We will all have the opportunity to speak with Jeff and feel his hair. Please see my secretary for tickets. All of them are still available.

Posted by: Senator Maxine Waters at May 08, 2018 06:11 PM (rBnYq)

116 Flake now stands with Germany, UK, and France. Maybe he should take his miserable faggot ass to Europe.

Posted by: Under Fire at May 08, 2018 06:11 PM (r9UYA)

117 I'd blame the cat knocking a cord loose (she likes to wander behind the desk and tower) but she was with me and couldn't be guilty this time. Anything else I should check before looking for a new monitor?

Check all the connections and cords, and try a power on. Reboot if you can. If there's still nothing, check the documentation (probably have to go online) for a reset procedure. Its usually something simple.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:11 PM (39g3+)

118
She'd be on the floor shakin what she's got.
Man, when I tell you she was cool she was red hot I mean she was steaming.



She sure was.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 08, 2018 06:11 PM (NJeCt)

119
And that time over at Johnny's place
Well, this chick got up and she
Slapped Johnny's face
Man, we just fell about the place
If that chick don't wanna know, forget her

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:11 PM (yQpMk)

120 You wanna see a real flake?

Here, hold my tumor.

Posted by: John McCain at May 08, 2018 06:11 PM (B2l13)

121 I love how in DC, once something is implemented it can never, ever be disbanded. No, we must fix it, or give it more money, or expand it. Never can they say: Didn't work, let's scrap it and start over.

This is the benefit of having a businessman in the WH (which was Romney's selling point). He's cancelling stuff left and right, regulations, climate change programs, failed deals - LOVE it!!!

To Flake: Bye, Felicia!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2018 06:11 PM (W+vEI)

122 108
Overhead in the Senate washroom: "refresh my memory. Where is Iran? I keep getting it mixed up with Ireland."

Posted by: Guam tipper at May 08, 2018 06:05 PM (/DvFd)

Oh, man. The Irish with nuclear weapons...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 08, 2018 06:10 PM (gBlJt)


10 Megaton Guinness.

Who I saw open for the Stranglers at the Intermedia Art Center in '78.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 08, 2018 06:12 PM (VM6ev)

123 Barney Frank hosts The Dong Show

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 08, 2018 06:12 PM (89T5c)

124 Pulling out of the "agreement" also reinforces to the Norks that Trump means business

Posted by: MAGA at May 08, 2018 06:12 PM (LnOh3)

125 Jeff Flake and Valerie Jarrett. The dustbin of history ...

I left a willowed reply to the the question of US SOL numbers in the last thread if anyone is interested.

Posted by: mrp at May 08, 2018 06:12 PM (Pqytn)

126 Like John McCain, he evolves in office, then evolves a lot more when departing office.


John Mc Cain won't be evolving into anything beyond worm food when departing office.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 08, 2018 06:12 PM (9q7Dl)

127 I was using my desktop when the monitor suddenly went off. Nothing changed in the tone of the computer, so I *think* it's the monitor and not the graphics card. The light is also not on or blinking for the monitor. I'd blame the cat knocking a cord loose ( she likes to wander behind the desk and tower) but she was with me and couldn't be guilty this time. Anything else I should check before looking for a new monitor?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 05:57 PM (rp9xB)


Search systematically.

1. Check that the monitor has power. For example, is its power light on? If you unplug the monitor and plug into the same outlet something you know works, does it have power?

If yes ...

2. Double check all the connections to the monitor. Disconnect and reconnect the power cable and the connection cable to the computer (do this for both ends of the latter).

Still no joy?

3. If you have another monitor, or can borrow one, plug it in and connect it to your computer. Does it work? If so, it's the monitor. If not, it's the computer.

Chances are #1 or #2 will fix the problem.

Btw, how old is the monitor?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:12 PM (oYp/M)

128 I would truly giggle if President Trump managed to get Iran to reshuffle its leadership and dump the Mullahs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:12 PM (39g3+)

129 @107

Imagine what he could have accomplished with a compliant and supportive GOP?

What he has accomplished with all that is arrayed against him is remarkable.

May God grant protection for he and his family.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 08, 2018 06:13 PM (UfMVm)

130
All we need now is for Jeff Flake to refer to Jerusalem as "al Quds" and he's in like Flynn with the Chomsky brigades.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 08, 2018 06:13 PM (VM6ev)

131 Polliwog, are you on a laptop now? Have you tried plugging the display into that instead to see what happens?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 08, 2018 06:13 PM (y87Qq)

132 Oh, man. The Irish with nuclear weapons...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-yQ4s6IBec

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:13 PM (yQpMk)

133 126 Like John McCain, he evolves in office, then evolves a lot more when departing office.


John Mc Cain won't be evolving into anything beyond worm food when departing office.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 08, 2018 06:12 PM (9q7Dl)


"FEH!"

- - Worms

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 08, 2018 06:13 PM (VM6ev)

134

oh my, my brother sent me a picture a few minutes ago, called me laughing

I had to admit I laughed, but I feel awful about, yet, I keep laughing

The top of the picture says

Trump's Response to McCain
the bottom says
About Not Being Invited To His Funeral

The picture is Trump, dressed in his beautiful clothes, black winter long coat, inside a grave, shovel in hand, digging the grave.

Now, back to dinner.

Sad, what McCain has done to his reputation.

eek

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 08, 2018 06:14 PM (fceHP)

135 How novel to have a president who loves his country and does what's best on that sole criterion.

Posted by: Octopussy at May 08, 2018 06:14 PM (eaHPN)

136
Flake is already getting McCain on the Ouija board.

Posted by: Miklos, insider info guy at May 08, 2018 06:08 PM (zCyNd)


But then it crashed

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 08, 2018 06:14 PM (10vO4)

137 All we need now is for Jeff Flake to refer to Jerusalem as "al Quds" and he's in like Flynn with the Chomsky brigades.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 08, 2018 06:13 PM (VM6ev)

======================
LOL

Posted by: mrp at May 08, 2018 06:14 PM (Pqytn)

138
I was using my desktop when the monitor suddenly went off.

This is what happens when you cook hot dogs on your pc.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 08, 2018 06:14 PM (NJeCt)

139 as you can see I have a lot of pent up posting popping out, like a festering boil.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:14 PM (yQpMk)

140 >>Does anyone have the long list of what the Recucklicans/True Conservatism, Inc. really believes? All I have is the short list and there doesn't appear to be anything on it.


They've turned into Bartleby the scrivener. Whatever Trump wants, it's "I would prefer not to."

Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2018 06:14 PM (W+vEI)

141 Please someone correct me if I am wrong, but I recall 'snap back' provisions if Iran did not comply. I particularly remember 'snap back' because it was an odd linguistic construction.

Blonde and Flake jokes incoming . . .

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 08, 2018 06:15 PM (MIKMs)

142 By the way Polly: its not impossible that your card worked its way loose, heating and cooling. Its incredibly unlikely but it might not have been seated well. If nothing else works, and you know how to do it, popping open the case and reseating the video card might fix it. Assuming you have a video card and its not just part of the motherboard.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:15 PM (39g3+)

143 138
I was using my desktop when the monitor suddenly went off.

This is what happens when you cook hot dogs on your pc.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 08, 2018 06:14 PM (NJeCt)


Mitt Meat.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 08, 2018 06:15 PM (VM6ev)

144 I don't see how someone can be blamed for killing a deal that was a falsehood. That would seem to be like my soda delivery guy who is supposed to stock the machine, but instead just stacks the soda-pop on the floor next to the dispenser. Good deal for him. Not so good for anyone else.

Posted by: goon at May 08, 2018 06:15 PM (PEcU2)

145 >>>>Does anyone have the long list of what the Recucklicans/True Conservatism, Inc. really believes?

We believe in enriching ourselves and our families.

Posted by: Cocaine Mitch at May 08, 2018 06:16 PM (r9UYA)

146 Obama's Iran deal-Trump pulled out. Meaning-

"I wouldn't f*ck those mullahs with your dick, Barry."

Posted by: Miklos, ex-kremlinologist at May 08, 2018 06:16 PM (zCyNd)

147 Hey, remember a couple of years ago when he was a super-conservative hero, like Marco Rubio and Paul Ryan?


Posted by: FaCubeItches at May 08, 2018 06:06 PM (rznWS)
yeah big western libertarian like Mike Lee. That did not last. Can he go further left than Kasich? I think he can do it.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2018 06:16 PM (n13/j)

148 Please someone correct me if I am wrong, but I recall 'snap back' provisions if Iran did not comply.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 08, 2018 06:15 PM (MIKMs)


The snap-back provisions were not as shovel-ready as we expected.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 08, 2018 06:16 PM (y87Qq)

149 Jeff Flake is proud to announce he will be going into the hair extension and pedicure business after leaving the Senate. That, and the ATM rental and Indian Casino business.

Gotta do a little of everything in Flakeville.

Posted by: Jeff Flake's Hair Emporium and Casino at May 08, 2018 06:16 PM (rBnYq)

150 MAGA - exactly. Norks are not oblivious to all this. Of course. And of course they have been heavily involved with Iran, esp. on ballistic missile stuff, for years (the "Axis of Evil" was real, and important, though the "axis" part was more Nork/Iran, with Iraq getting the nod - correctly - for its outstanding solo performance).


As I said above, Trump continues to build credibility.


Last major security agreement we dumped was the ABM Treaty (Dubya). Similar idiotic hair-on-fire hysterics, also completely baseless, by the usual suspects. This was also an action taken for its own reasons, that added to credibility.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2018 06:16 PM (QDnY+)

151 128 I would truly giggle if President Trump managed to get Iran to reshuffle its leadership and dump the Mullahs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:12 PM (39g3+)



Is the Green Movement of a decade ago still there, or was it completely snuffed out? I am sure the Obamunist tried to snuff it out, but I would be happy to see it revived (and armed and supplied).

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:17 PM (ujg0T)

152 That would seem to be like my soda delivery guy who is supposed to stock the machine, but instead just stacks the soda-pop on the floor next to the dispenser. Good deal for him. Not so good for anyone else.


Wait ... so the cokes are just sitting there for taking? Sounds like a good deal for someone.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:17 PM (yQpMk)

153 The deal was a fraud, Iran already got the cash and they continue to build nukes. What is the benefit of staying in an agreement that is one sided? We got nothing in the deal and Iran is emboldened like a three year old in a candy store with all the cash they want and nobody to say NO!

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 08, 2018 06:17 PM (0OmEj)

154 144 I don't see how someone can be blamed for killing a deal that was a falsehood. That would seem to be like my soda delivery guy who is supposed to stock the machine, but instead just stacks the soda-pop on the floor next to the dispenser. Good deal for him. Not so good for anyone else.
Posted by: goon at May 08, 2018 06:15 PM (PEcU2)


Killing the deal was one thing. But I think they way in which he killed it - the words he used and the blame he placed - made already exploding skulls liquify.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 08, 2018 06:17 PM (VM6ev)

155 Jo napot, tisztelt Sefton Ur!

Posted by: Miklos, happily houring at May 08, 2018 06:17 PM (zCyNd)

156 First, there are some things worms won't eat.

"140 >>Does anyone have the long list of what the Recucklicans/True Conservatism, Inc. really believes? All I have is the short list and there doesn't appear to be anything on it.


They've turned into Bartleby the scrivener. Whatever Trump wants, it's "I would prefer not to."

Bartleby had the courage to say it while planning to stay, though.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 08, 2018 06:17 PM (P5G1u)

157 The "Who's Inside My Wife Club", I'm not just a client, I'm also the President.

Posted by: Jeff Flake at May 08, 2018 06:17 PM (vHz8Q)

158 We all had lower standards before Trump....

Ohferchrissake...

None of us who've been remotely Trumpists thought he was going to follow through on everything. Okay, we'd have loved to see him drag Koskinen out in the middle of Penn Ave and blow his brains out (or something metaphorically equivalent) but we never expected perfection.

And I was just remotely Trumpist.

But shit, anyone who's lived anywhere knows guys who have too much mouth, and they do well despite it, and they'd do even better at 80%...and now we've got an asshole who can't crank it down and he's still POTUS.

Accept it. He won. He spent money on a pronchick who's not my thing and he's still got kids who are right.

Great men are often not good men. Give me one example where this is not the case. He rates maybe 3 on the 1-5 Presidentin.com Good Man scale. Saint Ronald was a 3.4. Give me a break.

Posted by: JEM at May 08, 2018 06:17 PM (u7ERy)

159 What kind of monitor is it, anyway....
Posted by: kraken at May 08, 2018 06:02 PM (pL6Vz)

A Samsung 915N, it's pretty old.

If it's monitor with an external power supply it could be that. Pick it up and see if it's warm.
Posted by: freaked at May 08, 2018 06:02 PM (UdKB7)

It seemed warm on top, but has cooled down without coming back on. It plugs into a strip, but the strip is on.

The caps lock *does* work. I tried the settings buttons as recommended, but nothing came up. It appears to have no power. I reset the plug in the strip, checked the plug to the desktop, reset the power plug directly hooked to the monitor and can't remove and reset the monitor end of the computer cable because I can't get one of the fasteners loose.

Anything I'm missing?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 06:17 PM (rp9xB)

160 Jeff Flake and Valerie Jarrett. The dustbin of history ...


Yes, like our last president....uh....wazzizzzname....you know...

Oh yeah! Like Ex-President Bukake O'Bunion, they are on the wrong side of history.


Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 08, 2018 06:18 PM (9q7Dl)

161 Oh, man. The Irish with nuclear weapons...



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 08, 2018 06:10 PM (gBlJt)


Nuke powered distilleries?

Posted by: Bert G at May 08, 2018 06:18 PM (yzxic)

162 JEFF FLAKE is a tard and his shit is all messed up.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 08, 2018 06:18 PM (0OmEj)

163

btw, JJ, an old episode of Dick Cavett was on the other day and screenwriters Robert Towne and The Guy Who Wrote One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest were guests.

Robert Towne was talking about writing for The Godfather. Interesting.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 08, 2018 06:18 PM (NJeCt)

164 107 Trump is really bringing it.

He leads. He decides. He takes action. It's really kinda remarkable.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2018 06:09 PM (QDnY+)


Yep. I have an earnest liberal acquaintance who had a make-work sinecure for a public safety agency. Once he told me he couldn't do something that day because he had to prepare a "presentation to the board." I asked him how long the presentation was. Five minutes. FIVE MINUTES!

All day to prepare a five minute presentation?? I'd have knocked it together while walking up to the podium.

But from this and other stories I realized he's one of those guys whose work expands to fill the time available.

Trump is exactly the opposite. He knocks things out quickly because he knows what he thinks, pulls the trigger, then moves on to the next matter. In short, he's effective.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:18 PM (oYp/M)

165
Oh, Paolo!


I'll take Expressions Commonly Heard on "Who's Inside My Wife?" for $300, Alex.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 08, 2018 06:18 PM (pNxlR)

166 Hold my drone.

Posted by: Obama at May 08, 2018 06:18 PM (m0ex2)

167 130
All we need now is for Jeff Flake to refer to Jerusalem as "al Quds" and he's in like Flynn with the Chomsky brigades.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 08, 2018 06:13 PM (VM6ev)



Speaking of Chumpsky, anyone with a terminal illness out there who could take him out before they left our mortal coil?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:18 PM (ujg0T)

168 103
@60

It's even more sinister than that.

There is an
entrneched globalist cabal that does not want to solve problems because
if you truly solved problems you would not need problem solvers.

They
want to manage problems, control problems, etc because then they can
inhabit 6-7 figure positions as negotiaors, attaches, inspectors,
managers, fucntionaries, etc.

The deep state is deep and wide.


Posted by: Kreplach at May 08, 2018 06:09 PM (UfMVm)

A lot of the money that went to Iran could have gone back to the clinton foundation and similar graft systems.

Posted by: muckrack at May 08, 2018 06:18 PM (aVXQe)

169 Flake should be sure to ask Trump for a full pardon before leaving. Just in case someone finds out about the...well, you know....

Posted by: Senator Hairy Reid, Jeff's Hunting Partner at May 08, 2018 06:18 PM (rBnYq)

170 >>Is the Green Movement of a decade ago still there, or was it completely snuffed out? I am sure the Obamunist tried to snuff it out, but I would be happy to see it revived (and armed and supplied).


Yes, protests there for weeks. Think they're keeping them small, but widespread (happening in many cities).
Honestly, do you think the Mossad got that truckload of intel out without some local assistance?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2018 06:19 PM (W+vEI)

171 Gotta' see another six years ... assuming they don't throw his ass out via Impeachment ... but could we be saying ...

Trump > Reagan ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 08, 2018 06:19 PM (EV+4+)

172 158

Great men are often not good men. Give me one example where this is not the case. He rates maybe 3 on the 1-5 Presidentin.com Good Man scale. Saint Ronald was a 3.4. Give me a break.
Posted by: JEM at May 08, 2018 06:17 PM (u7ERy)

I meant my comment as a compliment to Trump... I guess I phrased something badly.....

Posted by: kraken at May 08, 2018 06:19 PM (pL6Vz)

173 You left out "and Michelle pushing."

Posted by: I Cried at May 08, 2018 06:19 PM (loZXu)

174 144 I don't see how someone can be blamed for killing a deal that was a falsehood. That would seem to be like my soda delivery guy who is supposed to stock the machine, but instead just stacks the soda-pop on the floor next to the dispenser. Good deal for him. Not so good for anyone else.
Posted by: goon at May 08, 2018 06:15 PM (PEcU2)


The problem with leaving the Iran deal is it was heavily loaded to benefit Iran on the front end. As long as the Europeans keep trading with them they won't feel a damn thing whether or not we back out. It's a symbolic act.

Now, maybe symbolism is what's called for here, but I don't know. It's going to have the effect of alienating us from the Europeans to an even greater extent than we've already become.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:19 PM (h2Bdk)

175 29 @107

Imagine what he could have accomplished with a compliant and supportive GOP?

What he has accomplished with all that is arrayed against him is remarkable."

When this is all over and done with, Trump's greatest accomplishment may well be purging all the of traitorous, lying backstabbers out of the GOP. I think we all are realizing that this HAS to happen before anything on a big scale can ever be accomplished.

And this is a problem that's been here, even though we've ignored it, for a very long time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 06:19 PM (k1TUh)

176 Anybody know a good deal on the state-mandated 2100 hours of training and certification for doing hair extensions?

Posted by: Sen. Jeff'll do Ya, Inc. at May 08, 2018 06:19 PM (zCyNd)

177 Flake always reminds me of the sort of Lovecraft character who worships the Old Ones.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (T09ml)

178 Probably the monitor. Test it by plugging it into another computer.

Posted by: freaked at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (UdKB7)

179 Trump > Reagan ?


Easily the greatest for conservatives since Reagan.

That defeating the USSR remains pretty hard to beat.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (yQpMk)

180 Kreplach - a lament many of us recite hourly (what Trump might have accomplished, already, with even a mildly supportive GOP). Really, though, think about it. And of course the wild popularity and success of the key policies so supported would almost guarantee GOP dominance for an extended period.


Game's not over yet, but precious time has clearly been squandered.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (QDnY+)

181 can't remove and reset the monitor end of the computer cable because I can't get one of the fasteners loose.

Anything I'm missing?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 06:17 PM (rp9xB)


Many video cables have screws that engage the fitting on the monitor and the computer. Get a small screwdriver if necessary and back out the screws.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (oYp/M)

182 Jeff Flake is a pedophile? Seems like I heard that somewhere...

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (B2l13)

183 Jeff Fake and Jake Tap-Her really should team up to write a real stemwinder of an overwraught snore-fest of political intrique, bondage, and betrayal.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (x5R7N)

184 I can't get over this hysteria about getting out of an agreement that we have PROOF, beyond any doubt... that they were cheating on.

Its like Hillary staying married to Bill....

You have to ask... Why?

Posted by: Don Q., at May 08, 2018 06:21 PM (NgKpN)

185
I meant my comment as a compliment to Trump... I guess I phrased something badly.....

Posted by: kraken at May 08, 2018 06:19 PM (pL6Vz)


No, I think he misread it

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 08, 2018 06:21 PM (10vO4)

186 That defeating the USSR remains pretty hard to beat.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (yQpMk)


*pouts*

*then invades something*

Posted by: Vladimir P. at May 08, 2018 06:21 PM (zCyNd)

187 It's going to have the effect of alienating us from the Europeans to an even greater extent than we've already become.


I will bet not. They also secretly admire, and fear, the strong horse.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:21 PM (yQpMk)

188 Posted by: Skandia Recluse - at May 08, 2018 06:04 PM (roQNm)

Running Windows 8.1 with no automatic updates, for that sort of reason.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 06:21 PM (rp9xB)

189 Is there such thing as a sympathetic brain tumor? Because Flake is behaving just like a man who has a terminal brain cancer tumor thingy.

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: The Reaper at May 08, 2018 06:21 PM (K3B2k)

190 Bottom men.

Posted by: torabora at May 08, 2018 06:22 PM (Y274z)

191 He needs a beatng like a Sri Lankan that owes money to a red headed stepchild that's Attorney General for New York State getting ready to masturbate.

Posted by: Minuteman at May 08, 2018 06:22 PM (T55za)

192 >>Jeff Flake is a pedophile? Seems like I heard that somewhere...


I didn't hear that.

But, I read it on the Internet.


And, really. You are just asking questions.

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2018 06:22 PM (m0ex2)

193 @168

When something makes absolutlely no fucking sense its a good bet a lot of money is changing hands.

And that money is usually being fleeced from the public fisk.

Remember the money that was shipped directly from the FED without congressional approval was converted to even more untraceable Euro's.

That "deal" was as corrupt as it gets.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 08, 2018 06:22 PM (UfMVm)

194 159. Easy fix. I'll walk ya thru it.
1. Put on a pair.if non-conductive gloves
2. Using a long standard screwdriver, pop the lock on your neighbor's door. Lacking screwdriver, can also use brick.or crowbar to access thru window.
3. Take the monitor you require.
4. At home, follow standard install procedures.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 06:22 PM (fA1SL)

195 Bottom men.

*swoon*

Posted by: Shep! at May 08, 2018 06:22 PM (oVJmc)

196 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 06:17 PM (rp9xB)

Try it on a laptop or another computer because as stupid as it sounds, it could still be the display adapter. If there's no signal, some monitors stay in sleep mode.

It's probably the monitor though.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (y87Qq)

197 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (oYp/M)

I'll see if I can, the angle on that particular one is really awkward.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (rp9xB)

198 Sorry for going OT, but THANK YOU Ace for remembering the Expedition to the Barrier Peaks I know it marks me as a big geek and antisocial loser, but I still very much love first edition AD&D, and knowing other people remember it (fondly or no) makes my little heart-shaped cavity less cold.

Posted by: acethepug at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (539ql)

199 Yeah if the monitor is old it probably just gave up the ghost. If everything you try fails, its probably time for a new one. On the bright side you can get a bigger one now for the same price or even cheaper!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (39g3+)

200 "145 >>>>Does anyone have the long list of what the Recucklicans/True Conservatism, Inc. really believes?

We believe in enriching ourselves and our families."

1. We believe in enriching ourselves and our families.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (P5G1u)

201 Schaadenboner status, out of radio contact.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (pw+jk)

202 Honestly, you kids don't appreciate how amazing it was for the USSR to fall. I grew up expecting to die in a nuclear war because it was still better to die on your feet than live on your knees.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (yQpMk)

203 179 Trump > Reagan ?


Easily the greatest for conservatives since Reagan.

That defeating the USSR remains pretty hard to beat.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (yQpMk)


Reagan certainly finished off the USSR, but it was on the ropes anyway, because of its internal contradictions. So I give Reagan props for accelerating its inevitable collapse, but not so much for defeating it.

I suspect that apart from its economic problems, the Afghan War seriously damaged the USSR in terms of morale.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (oYp/M)

204 Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:19 PM (h2Bdk)

Except that Iranian ICBMs will be able to hit Europe, long before they are able to hit the US.

Can you say... Nuclear Blackmail???

I knew you could....

Its a wonderful day in Iranyhood... a beautiful day in Iranyhood... won't you die my neighbor!

Posted by: Iranian Mr. Abdullah Rogers... at May 08, 2018 06:24 PM (NgKpN)

205 I meant my comment as a compliment to Trump... I guess I phrased something badly.....
Posted by: kraken at May 08, 2018 06:19 PM (pL6Vz)

I got it. We've had to endure a generation of mediocrity and hold our noses because the smart set said these previous leaders were all that.

He's accomplished 3 times as much good and 100% less bad in 17 months than the two Bushes did in 12 years.

Posted by: golfman at May 08, 2018 06:24 PM (If3tB)

206 >>Jeff Fake and Jake Tap-Her really should team up to write a real stemwinder of an overwraught snore-fest of political intrique, bondage, and betrayal.


Pilot : Tap Her! Tap Her!

Bombardier : Tap Who?!

Pilot : My wife... Tap Her!

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2018 06:24 PM (m0ex2)

207 199 Yeah if the monitor is old it probably just gave up the ghost. If everything you try fails, its probably time for a new one. On the bright side you can get a bigger one now for the same price or even cheaper!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (39g3+)

For all we know, it could be a CRT... good luck getting rid of one of those....

Posted by: kraken at May 08, 2018 06:24 PM (pL6Vz)

208 "Jeff Flake is a pedophile?"

It's true. He really really likes children. He lures them into his gigerbred house and after he's thru with them he bakes them and eats them.

Posted by: freaked at May 08, 2018 06:24 PM (UdKB7)

209 >>Take this idiot Rhodes. Not just no background - stupid guy. Working for a pretty dim bunch of guys. It's still stunning to me that people of such low ability ever got anywhere near an important job, much less the top jobs in what was once the most important country in the world.



Hell, Obama's frat boys Jon Favreau, Tommy Vietor and Dan Pfeiffer have a sort of policy podcast - and what was their expertise, what did they accomplish. Seeing them as well as Harf and Powers react to the Iran deal death is frightening: total f'ing idiots, all of them.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2018 06:24 PM (W+vEI)

210 179 Trump > Reagan ?

Easily the greatest for conservatives since Reagan.

That defeating the USSR remains pretty hard to beat.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (yQpMk)



Uncle Ron defeated the communists abroad. The Donald is taking on the communists at home.

When this is all over, in 2028 or so, I sincerely am hoping that there is a "New Democrat" candidate who really is one, after all the Commiecrat ones have burned out or died off. Imagine if the Democrat Party actually HAD a working-class guy as a candidate, and not an academic, media, bureaucrat, or other leftist hack.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:25 PM (ujg0T)

211 I suspect that apart from its economic problems, the Afghan War seriously damaged the USSR in terms of morale.


It was boycotting the Olympics!

I'm tellin' ya, it was all down to me.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at May 08, 2018 06:25 PM (fuK7c)

212 That defeating the USSR remains pretty hard to beat.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (yQpMk)


Good Point. I defer to the Honorable Mr. Grump.

You know ... I don't think we get Reagan without the clusterfuck of Carter - and I don't think we get Trump without the Trifecta Goat Screw of Obama/Bush/GOPe.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 08, 2018 06:25 PM (EV+4+)

213 Nevertrumpers always load the TP opposite of the way Trump has it done. And they won't use his brand.

Posted by: torabora at May 08, 2018 06:25 PM (Y274z)

214 Reagan certainly finished off the USSR, but it was on the ropes anyway, because of its internal contradictions.


I find this to be 20/20 hindsight.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:25 PM (yQpMk)

215 179 Trump > Reagan ?


Easily the greatest for conservatives since Reagan.

That defeating the USSR remains pretty hard to beat.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (yQpMk)


Reagan had his faults. He paid Iran to get hostages released from Lebanon, for instance, which led to a decade of hostage taking in Beirut.

Also, containment had been a strategy since at least the '50s. Giving Reagan sole credit is going to far.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:25 PM (h2Bdk)

216 Ah, Jake Tapper: The Mickey Spillane of the cuck genre.

The author of the Mike Hammercuck of detectives.

Posted by: Fritz at May 08, 2018 06:25 PM (J7XgW)

217 Wow this is a really good analysis and examination of the Iran deal, in USA today of all places:

Stunningly, Trump is not doing what democracies almost always do: Punt problems down the road, where they inevitably become far worse.

tp://tinyurl.com/ybbjm5eh

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:26 PM (39g3+)

218 AllahPundit couldn't speak about this. Too many tears.

Posted by: Senator Hairy Reid, Jeff's Hunting Partner at May 08, 2018 06:26 PM (rBnYq)

219 197 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (oYp/M)

I'll see if I can, the angle on that particular one is really awkward.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (rp9xB)


If you have access to another computer and/or monitor, just swap out to ascertain where the problem lies. (Assuming you've already checked and KNOW the monitor has power.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:26 PM (oYp/M)

220 I'm tellin' ya, it was all down to me.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at May 08, 2018 06:25 PM (fuK7c)

And the sweater. Nothing says business like a no BS cardigan.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at May 08, 2018 06:26 PM (zCyNd)

221 When somehow a penis gets into my anal pore its too late to get it out.

Posted by: Jeffcuck Flakecuck the Cuckiest Cuck Who Ever Cucked a Cuck at May 08, 2018 06:27 PM (T55za)

222 Jeff Fake and Jake Tap-Her really should team up to write a real stemwinder of an overwraught snore-fest of political intrique, bondage, and betrayal.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2018 06:20 PM (x5R7N)


Can we take up a collection to get Anna a new airbrush or something because this fixation on the Codex Tapperium is getting a teeny tiny bit alarming.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 08, 2018 06:27 PM (y87Qq)

223 Reagan certainly finished off the USSR, but it was on the ropes anyway, because of its internal contradictions. So I give Reagan props for accelerating its inevitable collapse, but not so much for defeating it.

I suspect that apart from its economic problems, the Afghan War seriously damaged the USSR in terms of morale.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (oYp/M)

And I hate to say it... but Reagan missed the rise of the power of Middle Eastern Terrorism.

A document accidentally declassified a couple of years ago shows they KNEW almost immediately, that Iran had planned the op, and built the Truck, that killed our Marines in Beirut.

Yet.... they didn't even bother to tell those of us, who were THERE.... (and yes, I sat in on some briefs of MARG 2-83)...

Posted by: Iranian Mr. Abdullah Rogers... at May 08, 2018 06:27 PM (NgKpN)

224
Cornyn has changed his mind now also. He voted for the Corker travesty and At the time I wrote him asking where he would be watching the coming nuclear war from: His home in the district or his vacation house in Texas.
He didn’t reply.

Posted by: New Phone at May 08, 2018 06:27 PM (cXm6z)

225 Nevertrumpers always load the TP opposite of the way Trump has it done. And they won't use his brand.

Posted by: torabora at May 08, 2018 06:25 PM (Y274z)

Brand? Use the hand. Left hand.

Posted by: Effendi John Brennan at May 08, 2018 06:27 PM (zCyNd)

226 Also, containment had been a strategy since at least the '50s. Giving Reagan sole credit is going to far.
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:25 PM (h2Bdk)


I think so too.

In contrast, Trump has done stuff off his own bat, and done so single-handedly, against resistance from everybody except Melania.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:28 PM (oYp/M)

227 198 Sorry for going OT, but THANK YOU Ace for remembering the Expedition to the Barrier Peaks I know it marks me as a big geek and antisocial loser, but I still very much love first edition AD&D, and knowing other people remember it (fondly or no) makes my little heart-shaped cavity less cold.

Posted by: acethepug at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (539ql)



And on that note, will there be a "D&D Guide To The Democrat Presidential Candidates" in 2020? A plethora of them will probably run, and they will be right out of the Fiend Folio.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:28 PM (ujg0T)

228 It was boycotting the Olympics!



I'm tellin' ya, it was all down to me.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at May 08, 2018

=========

Two guys on our varsity water polo team and three swimmers got hosed by Carter on that.

One of those guys did go on to medal and coach Olympic water polo teams.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 08, 2018 06:28 PM (pw+jk)

229 Iran nuke deal is kaput. FU barky.

Posted by: freaked at May 08, 2018 06:28 PM (UdKB7)

230
Friday night they'll be dressed to kill,
Down at Deano's bar and grill
The drink will flow, and blood will spill,
And if the boys wanna fight you better let 'em.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (yQpMk)

231
Posted by: Iranian Mr. Abdullah Rogers... at May 08, 2018 06:27 PM (NgKpN)

Wow.... serious sock failage....

Posted by: Don Q. at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (NgKpN)

232 Flake always reminds me of the sort of Lovecraft character who worships the Old Ones.

Foady Fo Ftagn!

Posted by: Maxine's Tentacles at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (p0Qbt)

233 I agree that its hindsight to recognize that the USSR was about to crumble anyway, but it does put Reagan's achievement into perspective. I still give him most of the credit, because without Reagan, it would have limped along another few decades at least.

But if Trump can do what he's trying to do, survive the attacks against him, truly pacify and change Iran and North Korea, all the while shrinking the size of the federal government ... that's gotta put him in Mt Rushmore territory.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (39g3+)

234 It is hard to imagine a fate worse than than which should befall Ben Rhodes.

He should be the guy who, once the state dude gets dropped at the office, and the thinktank guy who commented on the state dude gets dropped at home, and the uber driver who dropped the state dude at the office and the thinktank guy at home, vacuums his car at the 24-hour car wash.

Posted by: JEM at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (u7ERy)

235 187 It's going to have the effect of alienating us from the Europeans to an even greater extent than we've already become.

I will bet not. They also secretly admire, and fear, the strong horse."

And there's another thing - you worry about alienating your equals, because you may need their support when things get tough. But you never need to worry about alienating your weak underlings, because A) they already hate you because they're jealous of you, and B) they will always come back sniveling too you as soon as they run into trouble, oh and C) they are guaranteed to get into trouble fairly often because they both weak and stupid.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (k1TUh)

236 It was boycotting the Olympics!

I'm tellin' ya, it was all down to me.
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at May 08, 2018 06:25 PM (fuK7c)


And turning down thermostats! And giving away the Panama Canal! And scuppering the Shah!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (oYp/M)

237 Reagan certainly finished off the USSR, but it was on the ropes anyway, because of its internal contradictions. So I give Reagan props for accelerating its inevitable collapse, but not so much for defeating it.

I suspect that apart from its economic problems, the Afghan War seriously damaged the USSR in terms of morale.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (oYp/M)



As late as 1987, anyone who predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union was ridiculed. It certainly was a surprise to everybody in academia except Richard Pipes, IIRC.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (ujg0T)

238 t's going to have the effect of alienating us from the Europeans to an even greater extent than we've already become.

Trump should keep playing Macron off against May and Merkel.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2018 06:30 PM (n13/j)

239 Jeff Flake, Tumor relay team, # 2

Get ready for the handoff, Jeff!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 08, 2018 06:30 PM (MjkWd)

240 Does anyone have the long list of what the Recucklicans/True Conservatism, Inc. really believes?
___________________

1. American citizens are idiots, and the ones who vote Republican are especially gullible, and can be conned over and over and over again.

2. Illegal aliens are noble and pure and good (especially the ones who will work like slaves for less than minimum wage and no benefits).

3. The U.S. constitution is raaaaaaacist and outdated.

4. Big government is good; bigger government is great.

5. The MSM are our friends.

Posted by: Recucklican Party at May 08, 2018 06:30 PM (fqUgw)

241 I remember the end of the Cold War. Was in HS. I will step off the lawn now.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 08, 2018 06:30 PM (89T5c)

242 Ace's liver, first-order problem with the Iran deal was that there was any deal, period - as opposed to a continuation/tightening of the sanctions regime that had greatly damaged the mullahocracy. The "deal" was nominally about nukes, which it was sorta, but the real import was in jettisoning a decade's hard work that had started to bear fruit in terms of isolating and weakening the Tehran regime.


The US weakness/stupidity demonstrated by the deal was rocket fuel to a newly unleashed Iran (Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Palestinians - Tehran ramped up their game in every one). Hence the radical Gulf Arab rapprochement with Israel, the growing Egypt-Jordan-Israel-Gulf Arab de facto (and literal) alliance against Persian hegemony.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2018 06:30 PM (QDnY+)

243 200 "145 >>>>Does anyone have the long list of what the Recucklicans/True Conservatism, Inc. really believes?

We believe in enriching ourselves and our families."

1. We believe in enriching ourselves and our families.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (P5G1u)


Plus the social status that comes from being "important conservatives voices against Trump". I think they prize that even more than the money, since it gets them invited onto news panels.

If Trump is defeated by the Democratic nominee in 2020, they'll no longer be needed, and you'll hear a big fluttering noise as the True Conservative Rolodex entries are summarily discarded.

I call it The Cindy Sheehan Treatment.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:31 PM (h2Bdk)

244 227 198 Sorry for going OT, but THANK YOU Ace for remembering the Expedition to the Barrier Peaks I know it marks me as a big geek and antisocial loser, but I still very much love first edition AD&D, and knowing other people remember it (fondly or no) makes my little heart-shaped cavity less cold.

Posted by: acethepug at May 08, 2018 06:23 PM (539ql)


And on that note, will there be a "D&D Guide To The Democrat Presidential Candidates" in 2020? A plethora of them will probably run, and they will be right out of the Fiend Folio.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:28 PM (ujg0T)

Yes, but who knew that City State of the Invincible Special Prosecutor would ever come to pass...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 08, 2018 06:31 PM (NgKpN)

245 Somebody wants some Boeing cash ...

Thing is, even Boeing knows they are being played and will never get a dime out of Iran.

Posted by: Jean at May 08, 2018 06:31 PM (MS0+a)

246 It's going to have the effect of alienating us from the Europeans to an even greater extent than we've already become.


Oh zut! Will French waiters be rude to me?

Posted by: Miklos at Les Deux Magots at May 08, 2018 06:31 PM (zCyNd)

247 It is with some shame that I confess to appreciating Ronaldus Maximus more in hindsight than I did at the time.

I thought the "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" speech was stupid posturing. It was just a dumb rant for the rubes, the Wall had always been there and always would be.

Then 2 1/2 years later I was hammering out souvenirs from what had been the Wall.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 08, 2018 06:31 PM (fuK7c)

248 187 It's going to have the effect of alienating us from the Europeans to an even greater extent than we've already become.

Does that mean we can quit paying for their defense ? And stay out of their next war ?

Because I'm all for that.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 08, 2018 06:31 PM (EV+4+)

249 The Codex Tapex?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2018 06:31 PM (x5R7N)

250 I just don't think withdrawing is a good idea. Once you put it in there, you should keep it in there good and hard. Never mind me over here watching in the corner.

Posted by: Jeff Flake at May 08, 2018 06:32 PM (Nnl9v)

251 As late as 1987, anyone who predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union was ridiculed. It certainly was a surprise to everybody in academia except Richard Pipes, IIRC.


I remember Bush the First seriously trying to convince the Baltic States not to accept independence but rather remain in the Soviet Union.

The Bush Family has much to answer for.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:32 PM (yQpMk)

252 It's going to have the effect of alienating us from the Europeans to an even greater extent than we've already become.

This is absurd wishcasting. Nothing about what he did will in any way alienate anyone except the Iranians, who already hate us. It changes nothing with Europe. The sanctions are already gone. Dropping the deal doesn't re-impose sanctions.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:32 PM (39g3+)

253 235 187 It's going to have the effect of alienating us from the Europeans to an even greater extent than we've already become.

I will bet not. They also secretly admire, and fear, the strong horse."

And there's another thing - you worry about alienating your equals, because you may need their support when things get tough. But you never need to worry about alienating your weak underlings, because A) they already hate you because they're jealous of you, and B) they will always come back sniveling too you as soon as they run into trouble, oh and C) they are guaranteed to get into trouble fairly often because they both weak and stupid.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (k1TUh)


This.

When I lived in Europe Europeans used to rant about how America didn't give them their due, etc., and failed to take their views into account. They clearly considered themselves to be oh so important.

I asked them their views on Bolivia's foreign policies. "Bolivia? Who cares what Bolivia thinks?" they replied.

"That's exactly how Americans think about Europe."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:32 PM (oYp/M)

254 Hurro?!?
I ready for my rerease Mistah Teef!!

Posted by: Kim Dong Chul at May 08, 2018 06:32 PM (lF1/B)

255 Someday Europe has to wake up and not be a victim of the next thug in the neighborhood.

Posted by: torabora at May 08, 2018 06:32 PM (Y274z)

256 But you never need to worry about alienating your weak underlings, because A) they already hate you because they're jealous of you, and B) they will always come back sniveling too you as soon as they run into trouble, oh and C) they are guaranteed to get into trouble fairly often because they both weak and stupid.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (k1TUh)


Like I ain't been sayin'.

Posted by: Dr. Henry Kissinger at May 08, 2018 06:33 PM (zCyNd)

257 And I hate to say it... but Reagan missed the rise of the power of Middle Eastern Terrorism.

A document accidentally declassified a couple of years ago shows they KNEW almost immediately, that Iran had planned the op, and built the Truck, that killed our Marines in Beirut.

Yet.... they didn't even bother to tell those of us, who were THERE.... (and yes, I sat in on some briefs of MARG 2-83)...

Posted by: Iranian Mr. Abdullah Rogers... at May 08, 2018 06:27 PM (NgKpN)



In fairness, at a time when the wounds of Vietnam were still fresh, going all-out into Lebanon was not going to happen. They barely got anti-communist efforts (by proxies, not actual US personnel) in Central America funded, and that is practically at the USA doorstep.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:33 PM (ujg0T)

258 251. His thinking in that - and he had a point, ya gotta admit - that the last thing the world needs is three new iceback territories. He wasn't wrong.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 06:33 PM (fA1SL)

259 I'm all for sending Iran a few nukes....at the end of Minuteman III missiles or via B-52s.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at May 08, 2018 06:33 PM (rpbii)

260 Does that mean we can quit paying for their defense ? And stay out of their next war ?

I think the US should pull out of NATO, close our bases, set up an agreement with Eastern Europe, then sit back and wait for Europe to erupt in war again, which they would within a decade. We could film it with drones and sell the footage. Go long on popcorn.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:34 PM (39g3+)

261 What the NeverTrumpers don't understand, is the more people like Flake, McCain and others who supposedly were conservatives - but "against" Trump - is that folks like us were right all along.

These folks were never really conservatives. They ran on the R ticket because they couldn't get elected on the D ticket - abortion, open borders, take your pick, because the Ds required blind allegiance. Now that they are on their way out, and coming out against R policies (be it Trump, Cruz on Obamacare filibuster or whatev), it, IMHO, actually hurts these NeverTrumpers. Sure, their ranks may be growing a bit, but they're growing by the wrong people. People who were always them.

The game is up people.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 08, 2018 06:34 PM (bB4HN)

262 It's going to have the effect of alienating us from the Europeans to an even greater extent than we've already become.

God, I hope we don't piss off Liechtenstein, one of our more stalwart allies.

Britain and France jointly own ONE aircraft carrier. Think about that. "Hey, can I borrow the keys to the aircraft carrier? I've got a hot date this weekend."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:34 PM (oYp/M)

263 Carter = 55 MPH

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 08, 2018 06:34 PM (MntNs)

264 The same European allies like France that gave Iraq the Osirak reactor?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 08, 2018 06:35 PM (x5R7N)

265
263 Carter = 55 MPH
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 08, 2018 06:34 PM (MntNs)
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I can't drive 55.

Posted by: Weasel at May 08, 2018 06:35 PM (MVjcR)

266 Going rpg nerd is never off topic, just wait till post 100

Posted by: Jean at May 08, 2018 06:35 PM (MS0+a)

267 "Hey, can I borrow the keys to the aircraft carrier? I've got a hot date this weekend."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:34 PM (oYp/M)

Good for watching the submarine races, though.

Posted by: Miklos, backseat driver at May 08, 2018 06:35 PM (zCyNd)

268 First and foremost when it comes to the Iran thing, what the rest of the world thinks doesn't count. Got that, Corker? Oh, didn't think so, so fuck you. It's a treaty. Any significant agreement with other countries (hey, Gore, can we pump your ass full of CO2?) is a treaty. And you can't shuffle off the need for Senate ratification.

Posted by: JEM at May 08, 2018 06:35 PM (u7ERy)

269 It is hard to imagine a fate worse than than which should befall Ben Rhodes.

Posted by: JEM at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (u7ERy)

Wonder how those 27 y.o. rubes in the press that he played feel right about now?

Posted by: golfman at May 08, 2018 06:35 PM (If3tB)

270 Someday Europe has to wake up and not be a victim of beat down the next thug in the neighborhood.
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fixed for you.

Posted by: Senator Hairy Reid, Jeff's Hunting Partner at May 08, 2018 06:36 PM (rBnYq)

271 What will the Iran deal look like after Rouhani renegotiates it with the remaining 5 principals? They will all go along with the changes because they do not want to align with Trump. A sh*tty deal gets even sh*ttier.

Posted by: Guam tipper at May 08, 2018 06:36 PM (/DvFd)

272 Raise your hand if you remember the Andropovian term: "shovel diplomacy".

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:36 PM (yQpMk)

273 Germany, France and GB have ceased to become allies and are only competitors. The Poles and the Checks deserve much more of our attention.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 08, 2018 06:36 PM (/wVZo)

274 Polliwog, did I ever give you my phone number way back when? I have a spare monitor back at my Mom's place but I don't feel like driving over to Houston right now. My car's not in good shape and I'm kinda feeling lousy right now.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 06:36 PM (p0Qbt)

275 As late as 1987, anyone who predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union was ridiculed. It certainly was a surprise to everybody in academia except Richard Pipes, IIRC.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (ujg0T)


Caught me by surprise. I thought the whole "Soviet Union About To Collapse" thing was wishful thinking.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:37 PM (h2Bdk)

276 226 In contrast, Trump has done stuff off his own bat, and done so single-handedly, against resistance from everybody except Melania.

Noooo, President Donny says I push back just right!

Posted by: Melania at May 08, 2018 06:37 PM (MjkWd)

277 Trump should keep playing Macron off against May and Merkel.
Posted by: quint at May 08, 2018 06:30 PM (n13/j)

Peace in North Korea.
Democracy in Iran.
Permanent disbandment of the E.U.

...

I would have called it a silly joke mere months ago.

Now I think Donnie's actually got the chops to pull off the hat trick.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 08, 2018 06:37 PM (BRvh1)

278 France is very upset about junking the Iran deal. They were counting on the Shia to keep the Sunni in Marseille and along the Cote D'Azur in line.

Posted by: Senator Hairy Reid, Jeff's Hunting Partner at May 08, 2018 06:37 PM (rBnYq)

279 I don't want to hear a fucking word out of any Senator who abdicated their duty to allow this iece of shit agreement to dry on paper to begin with.


Fuck all of these cowards. They'll only make statements once they have been absolved of responsibilities for what they say.

Bunch of fags.

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2018 06:37 PM (m0ex2)

280 Good for watching the submarine races, though.

Conceiving a kid in an EA-6 would be...get video, and never admit it.

Posted by: JEM at May 08, 2018 06:37 PM (u7ERy)

281 262. Pathetic, really. I mean, EVEN Russia has its own carrier - Rusflot Kuznetsov, originally to have been named Leonid Brezhnev. In true SMR fashion, it retains, unremediated, its original and flawed powerplant. Upside? If there's no fuel oil, they xan run it on coal, old tires, peat.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 06:38 PM (fA1SL)

282 It's going to have the effect of alienating us from the Europeans to an even greater extent than we've already become.

Good. Make them worry that we might just hang them out to dry, and so they need to either sack up or study Arabic.

Europe now is effectively a theme park, "YesterdayLand." Yeah, it used to matter, but Ted Williams used to lead the AL in batting. More recently, not so much.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:38 PM (oYp/M)

283 269 It is hard to imagine a fate worse than than which should befall Ben Rhodes.

Posted by: JEM at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (u7ERy)

Wonder how those 27 y.o. rubes in the press that he played feel right about now?
Posted by: golfman at May 08, 2018 06:35 PM (If3tB)


That's why I can't hate the guy. He didn't give them any more respect than Trump does.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:38 PM (h2Bdk)

284 As late as 1987, anyone who predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union was ridiculed. It certainly was a surprise to everybody in academia except Richard Pipes, IIRC.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:29 PM (ujg0T)

Caught me by surprise. I thought the whole "Soviet Union About To Collapse" thing was wishful thinking.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:37 PM (h2Bdk)


Hungary made private business legal in April of 1988. The genii in the CIA neglected to notice.

Posted by: Miklos, what's French for entrepreneur? at May 08, 2018 06:38 PM (zCyNd)

285 262 It's going to have the effect of alienating us from the Europeans to an even greater extent than we've already become.

God, I hope we don't piss off Liechtenstein, one of our more stalwart allies.

Britain and France jointly own ONE aircraft carrier. Think about that. "Hey, can I borrow the keys to the aircraft carrier? I've got a hot date this weekend."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:34 PM (oYp/M)



Exactly. The Eurotrash have shown themselves to be feckless and feeble.

That the UK, a nation with a long maritime tradition, does not have at least 3 supercarriers, says so much.

And the UK have been the best of the lot over there.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:39 PM (ujg0T)

286 Execpt rifts, rifts sucked

Posted by: Jean at May 08, 2018 06:39 PM (MS0+a)

287 Lets cut to the chase.

Ronaldus Maximus was great.

Trump so far has so exceeded my expectations that if he continues along this course will, in my mind, make him on of the best Presidents of the last 100 years.

Now that presuposes continued winning for the next 6 years and a 2nd term.

But so far I am truly greatful that he is my President.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 08, 2018 06:39 PM (UfMVm)

288
Hey, guess who's a planet, bitchez!


That's right, me!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/05/07/yes-pluto-is-a-planet


Now don't make me break orbit and come roll all over the Earth and squash your dumb asses.

Cuz I will do it if you start with that "not a planet" bullshit again!

Posted by: Pluto at May 08, 2018 06:39 PM (9q7Dl)

289
That jukebox in the corner blasting out my favorite song,
The nights are gettin' warmer, it won't be long,
Won't be long 'til summer comes,
Now that the boys are here again.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:39 PM (yQpMk)

290 Why would I give a fat rat's ass about what this pathetic unAmerican dogturd thinks about anything at all ?
Can't be gone soon enough.
So tired of all of these self-inflating pompous assholes.

*walks away to get a drink, mumbling and gesturing*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 08, 2018 06:39 PM (Mbmmf)

291 275. I thought it was a trick. Penkovsky had warned - about a dozen years earlier - about such a plan. Feign collapse and reform, open up to western aid ans technical support, then - boom!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 06:39 PM (fA1SL)

292 Levine was just calling out Nevers on this Iran deal turnaround, they were all against it when Jug Ears and Horse Facd did it but now it's a bad idea to drip it.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2018 06:40 PM (aC6Sd)

293 What military the euros have has no logistics tail.

Posted by: Jean at May 08, 2018 06:40 PM (MS0+a)

294 263
Carter = 55 MPH

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 08, 2018 06:34 PM (MntNs)

No you didn't
Sammy Hagar

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 08, 2018 06:40 PM (bB4HN)

295 If anyone in the Obama administration speaks up today, I'd be sure to ask them why they never submitted this treaty to the Senate. If it was such a good deal it would have passed easily.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm Your Huckleberry! at May 08, 2018 06:40 PM (rBnYq)

296 >>What will the Iran deal look like after Rouhani renegotiates it with the remaining 5 principals? They will all go along with the changes because they do not want to align with Trump. A sh*tty deal gets even sh*ttier.


It won't matter.

Without the US to back it, much like the world economy, any agreement they have has no enduring value.
Don't get me wrong. It's cute.
But worthless without the cooperation of the one nation on the planet that can roll all of their asses.

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2018 06:40 PM (m0ex2)

297 What military the euros have has no logistics tail.

So they don't have assets, they just own targets.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:41 PM (yQpMk)

298 I thought the whole "Soviet Union About To Collapse" thing was wishful thinking.

I had a bit of an inside track on how things were really going on in Russia, so I had a clue that they weren't nearly as strong and stable as the press and popular culture acted. That said, the sudden collapse really took me by surprise. I don't think anyone expected things to change that fast and that totally.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:41 PM (39g3+)

299 Why do the Ass Heads of the World like Jeff Flake keep running their mouths when all that comes out is bile and hate. Just like his daddy, McStain.

Shut your pie hole, Jeff and go away. Shut your rice hole, McStain, and die already.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 08, 2018 06:41 PM (EoRCO)

300 In fairness, at a time when the wounds of Vietnam were still fresh, going all-out into Lebanon was not going to happen. They barely got anti-communist efforts (by proxies, not actual US personnel) in Central America funded, and that is practically at the USA doorstep. "

Yeah, it's hard to remember now what a huge anti-military mood there was at that time, a leftover from the 70's. Sadly, Iran figured us right at that point in time - we were in no moo to take casualties for anything, and once they gave us a bloody nose in Beirut we had to withdraw, no real choice.

One of Reagan's greatest accomplishments was to get America to be proud of its military again, and it took almost his full 2 terms to do it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 06:41 PM (k1TUh)

301 282 It's going to have the effect of alienating us from the Europeans to an even greater extent than we've already become.

Good. Make them worry that we might just hang them out to dry, and so they need to either sack up or study Arabic.

Europe now is effectively a theme park, "YesterdayLand." Yeah, it used to matter, but Ted Williams used to lead the AL in batting. More recently, not so much.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:38 PM (oYp/M)


A new European vigor would be a double-edged sword. For decades they were content to go along with US policy and not make too many waves. As a group, their economy is bigger than ours - do you really want to see the birth of a powerful and potentially belligerent actor? How would that be good for anyone?

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:42 PM (h2Bdk)

302 Honestly? Except for signing a bad "continuing resolution" budget, which he promises not to do the next time the Demunists try it, I can't think of a major mistake "The Donald" has made.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:42 PM (ujg0T)

303 Jay, the French have an aircraft carrier and the British have one they commissioned last year and are currently fitting out, with another under construction.

Although why they'd name one Prince of Wales... I don't get it.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 06:42 PM (p0Qbt)

304 fuk flake

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 08, 2018 06:42 PM (JFO2v)

305 Caught me by surprise. I thought the whole "Soviet Union About To Collapse" thing was wishful thinking.
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:37 PM (h2Bdk)


When my boys (and my wife) get into a depressed jag about where things are going, I caution them against the fallacy of the linear extrapolation. I keep telling them that history takes place in the discontinuities, the imminence of which is typically not apparent at the time.

We were in Egypt when the Ceausescus fell. When we arrived, they looked to be in control. A couple days later, they'd been stood against a wall and shot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:42 PM (oYp/M)

306 Germany can continue to do business with Iran if they wish. I'm sure Mercedes and BMW won't miss the car sales they used to do here in the States.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm Your Huckleberry! at May 08, 2018 06:43 PM (rBnYq)

307 are peeps in AZ on fukn drugs

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 08, 2018 06:43 PM (JFO2v)

308 Jay, the French have an aircraft carrier and the British have one they commissioned last year and are currently fitting out, with another under construction.

Although why they'd name one Prince of Wales... I don't get it.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 06:42 PM (p0Qbt)


OK, thanks. My information is out of date then. At one juncture that was the case, however.

Maybe they shoulda named the carrier the Prince of Whales.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:43 PM (oYp/M)

309 @295

They didn't submit it because the GOP congress through the Corker bill inverted the treaty clause.

The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 08, 2018 06:43 PM (UfMVm)

310 AllahPundit couldn't speak about this. Too many tears.
Posted by: Senator Hairy Reid, Jeff's Hunting Partner at May 08, 2018 06:26 PM (rBnYq)
---
He did do a story today, where he came right out and said that he and the rest of the media plan to memory hole the Schneiderman story. I admired how candid he was.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 08, 2018 06:43 PM (bXAir)

311 Britain and France jointly own ONE aircraft carrier. Think about that. "Hey, can I borrow the keys to the aircraft carrier? I've got a hot date this weekend."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:34 PM (oYp/M)

Western Europe is a non-factor for the foreseeable future. They are either going to be involved in a serious Islam vs everyone civil war or they will simply submit and fade away.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 08, 2018 06:44 PM (J70i0)

312 What military the euros have has no logistics tail.
Posted by: Jean at May 08, 2018 06:40 PM (MS0+a)

Marche ou creve........

Posted by: French Foreign Legion at May 08, 2018 06:44 PM (EoRCO)

313 Hey, guess who's a planet, bitchez!


That's right, me!


Hardest hit: Neil DeGrasse Tyson, whose greatest scientific achievement was somehow being on the panel that declared Pluto no longer a planet.

Whatta maroon

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:45 PM (39g3+)

314 macron has no economy. That is why he was here pleading for us to stay in the Iran deal. Hollande took his money and ran. Sarkozy wasn't so lucky because Killary got him fucked over for his Iraq war support. A is always attached to X.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 08, 2018 06:45 PM (/wVZo)

315 A number of European banks have publicly (or to shareholders) announced that they were curtailing some lines of business in order to dedicate additional billions of Euros to financing of Iranian trade deals.

They are now in a corner of their own painting-scratch that, or face possible US sanctions ( the Trump announcement specifically mentioned third party sanctions).

I will have fun checking certain EU bank shares tomorrow.

Posted by: Miklos, oh the irony at May 08, 2018 06:45 PM (zCyNd)

316 are peeps in AZ on fukn drugs
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 08, 2018 06:43 PM (JFO2v)

The way our two great statesmen Senators are going, I wonder about us here in NC.

Posted by: golfman at May 08, 2018 06:45 PM (If3tB)

317 As a group, their economy is bigger than ours - do you really want to see the birth of a powerful and potentially belligerent actor? How would that be good for anyone?
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:42 PM (h2Bdk)


That would only be a problem if they could get together, which ain't gonna happen. They hate each other. It'd be like saying that if Japan, Korea, and China got together they'd be powerful and potentially belligerent.

Plus, at this juncture, the Europeans are too effete to be much of a threat.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:45 PM (oYp/M)

318 the fallacy of the linear extrapolation. I keep telling them that history takes place in the discontinuities, the imminence of which is typically not apparent at the time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:42 PM (oYp/M)

AKA life comes at you fast

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 08, 2018 06:45 PM (hMwEB)

319 The Euro trashers will fall in line. They have no choice; we are their defense and their primary export market.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm Your Huckleberry! at May 08, 2018 06:46 PM (rBnYq)

320 Exactly. The Eurotrash have shown themselves to be feckless and feeble.



That the UK, a nation with a long maritime tradition, does not have at least 3 supercarriers, says so much.



And the UK have been the best of the lot over there.



Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:39 PM (ujg0T)

Super carriers are just too damn expensive, they don't want to pay for them. They along with the French do have some really good pilots, good spec ops, and some good regular troops too, particularly the Brits. They both also have subs. We know who does the heavy lifting though, c'est nous. The French still have an independent nuclear force, not sure what it is for but they have it. the force de frappe.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2018 06:46 PM (n13/j)

321 Maybe they shoulda named the carrier the Prince of Whales."

Here's the kicker about the new Brit Carrier - they don't have a SINGLE currently operative fixed wing aircraft in their entire armed forces capable of operating from it.

You heard that right - they built a carrier, and so far haven't build any planes that can use it, all the Harriers having been retired since they couldn't afford to keep them operating.

The plan is for them to start buying F-35's from the US as soon as our production line kicks into full gear. HA! How's that going again????

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 06:46 PM (k1TUh)

322 206

Great reference. Catch - 22

Posted by: Minuteman at May 08, 2018 06:47 PM (T55za)

323 In true SMR fashion, it retains, unremediated, its original and flawed powerplant. Upside? If there's no fuel oil, they xan run it on coal, old tires, peat.....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 06:38 PM (fA1SL)


This is never not funny:

http://youtubedoubler.com/nT9o

Posted by: hogmartin at May 08, 2018 06:47 PM (y87Qq)

324 do you really want to see the birth of a powerful and potentially belligerent actor? How would that be good for anyone?

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:42 PM (h2Bdk)

Germany has fewer functioning tanks or combat aircraft than the South Carolina National Guard (actual fact).

No sleep lost.

Posted by: Miklos, from where they make the big bombs at May 08, 2018 06:47 PM (zCyNd)

325 >>The Euro trashers will fall in line.


And they will cry and bitch and moan all the while.

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2018 06:47 PM (m0ex2)

326 303 Jay, the French have an aircraft carrier and the British have one they commissioned last year and are currently fitting out, with another under construction.

Although why they'd name one Prince of Wales... I don't get it.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 06:42 PM (p0Qbt)


The Charles de Gaulle is fine for its size, but it's old and tiny at 45k tons.

The Brits ran out of money for CATOBAR and put in a Russian-style ski jump. Ops tempo will be pretty paltry compared to what we're fielding, even on a ship-by-ship basis.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:47 PM (h2Bdk)

327 Except for signing a bad "continuing resolution" budget, which he promises not to do the next time the Demunists try it, I can't think of a major mistake "The Donald" has made.

That's his only stumble so far (aside from a few minor hiring errors), and it was a bad one, but not crippling. They all make mistakes.

Britain barely makes carriers. They are all little things about half the size of our ships.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:48 PM (39g3+)

328 The Europeans are too enamored of their six weeks of vacation ("holiday") to do much of anything. To impute to them the drive to do much of anything is like thinking the Kennedy spawn will become Navy SEALs.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:48 PM (oYp/M)

329 Who's a good puppy-wuppy, who's a good Doggie-woggie? You are Jeffy!

*bark bark*

Good boy! Here's a book deal for $20,000,000 and a seat on three boards of directors!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Lift Your Spirits with The Hymns of James Comey from the Outrage Outlet! at May 08, 2018 06:48 PM (0QYMt)

330 >>Posted by: Minuteman at May 08, 2018 06:47 PM (T55za)


For the Syndicate!

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2018 06:48 PM (m0ex2)

331 The faster Flake, McCain and Corker are gone, the better.

Posted by: standfast24 at May 08, 2018 06:49 PM (+9QGm)

332 A new European vigor would be a double-edged sword. For decades they were content to go along with US policy and not make too many waves. As a group, their economy is bigger than ours - do you really want to see the birth of a powerful and potentially belligerent actor? How would that be good for anyone?

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:42 PM (h2Bdk)



Honestly? The only reason the USA got into Global Policing was because the Brits and Frogs fell down on the job. And frankly, the Eurotrash DO make too many waves, or at least annoying ones that grate on me.

And I honestly think the USA is too overextended in Global Policing as it is.

Maybe we could recreate The British Empire as an Anglosphere Empire, with us first among equals leading it, but get the rest to shoulder more of the burden? And see if the Frogs can police "The Continent" of Europe and Francophone Africa? Just spitballing here.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:49 PM (ujg0T)

333 323. Yup. Arabs sure as shit can't play tye Rooshian Anthem. The question is - was that deliberate trolling, or was that tue best they could do.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 06:49 PM (fA1SL)

334
38 I was using my desktop when the monitor suddenly went off. Nothing changed in the tone of the computer, so I *think* it's the monitor and not the graphics card. The light is also not on or blinking for the monitor.

Used to have a monitor on which the power cable was vertical, going up. This meant that it was slowly falling out. About once a year or so, the monitor would go off and I'd have reach behind the thing and shove the cable back up into the power socket.

That being said, I've also had monitors suddenly quit. No power, no lights, nothing makes them come back on. But it's something to check.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 08, 2018 06:49 PM (sGtp+)

335 they couldn't afford to keep them operating.

And HERE is the crunch on any military aspirations of the Europeans generally.

They have to choose: six-week vacations, or defense. On current running, clawing back six-week vacations is not going to happen.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:50 PM (oYp/M)

336 They hate each other. It'd be like saying that if Japan, Korea, and China got together they'd be powerful and potentially belligerent.

Yeah the EU is a fiction, its nice on paper but they really are not a single unit in any real sense. If you combine several various countries you can equal the US GDP, but that doesn't mean they are a single, competitive body.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:50 PM (39g3+)

337 Germany has fewer functioning tanks or combat aircraft than the South Carolina National Guard (actual fact).

No sleep lost.
Posted by: Miklos, from where they make the big bombs at May 08, 2018 06:47 PM (zCyNd)


Because that's the way they want it. If the national mood changed they could build a world-class military in, oh, six years or so. They've done it before.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:51 PM (h2Bdk)

338 The French still have an independent nuclear force, not sure what it is for but they have it. the force de frappe. "

Ze Force de Frappe is ze Piece de Crap.

I remember when that Libya thing was going on under Obama, the French were supposed to be flying regular sorties since their airbases were just across the pond. And the readiness numbers were published, and on any given day, an average of 75% of ALL of the aircraft in the French Air Force were classified as broken down waiting on parts.

75%!!!!

and that was a few years ago, no doubt their equipment is in even worse shape today. This is why there is no chance of Europe ever becoming a serious power again anytime soon - it would take decades and untold trillions of Euro's for them to get anything close to an effective military again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 06:51 PM (k1TUh)

339 I would be content if the EuroWeenies would just bathe regularly.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 08, 2018 06:51 PM (EoRCO)

340 >>The Europeans are too enamored of their six weeks of vacation ("holiday") to do much of anything. To impute to them the drive to do much of anything is like thinking the Kennedy spawn will become Navy SEALs.


And they were also quite the lil' helpers with the deep state's attempts at getting Trump.
I'm not sure he should be all that trusting of the UK right now.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 08, 2018 06:52 PM (W+vEI)

341 Oh, and I didn't see your question at #4. I don't think I've talked about the last year and a half of adventures here at AOSHQ.

Anyway, summarizing: I lost my job, lost a lot of stuff, including some weight, got my job back part time, got evicted, did flood cleanup, got sick, would up having to go get surgery in Noo Awlins for valve replacement, eventually wound up working full time again, where things are slowly getting better, but not fast enough. Anyway, I was doing some work last week with some hydrotesting plug ("Look at how much better I am, this isn't killing me!") when my blood pressure spiked. I went to the local primary care physician who told me I should move up my appointment from the end of the month to sooner, (after changing my BP dosage), so... I called the hospital, and found out they can't do that. After being on hold a total of six hours yesterday.

So I'm dealing with the usual two steps forward and one step back stuff.


Sorry if that's all TMI.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 06:52 PM (p0Qbt)

342 Well this is pretty fucked up.

https://tinyurl.com/ybog586t

Posted by: JackStraw at May 08, 2018 06:52 PM (/tuJf)

343 Yeah, "Europe isn't an entity for any political-military purposes - that's kinda the point, in terms of their uselessness for several decades.


They're not "allies" in any meaningful sense, for many important situations, including specifically Iran. They have always been part of the problem - not allies.


So talking about "alienating" them is just silly, besides being irrelevant. The Iran "deal", as I keep pointing out, was a disaster *mostly* not for anything to do with nukes, but because it jettisoned the structure of sanctions and pressure the US had laboriously built (mostly Dubya), *against* European irresponsibility and greed as its main challenges.


Given what may emerge from the Mega-Scandals (specifically UK intel involvement), even long-standing close relationships with certain "allies" may have to be re-evaluated. It's been 70 years - probably over-due anyway.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2018 06:52 PM (QDnY+)

344 The French still have an independent nuclear force, not sure what it is for but they have it. the force de frappe.
Posted by: quint at May 08, 2018 06:46 PM (n13/j)

The only credible threat against British soccer hooligans.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 08, 2018 06:52 PM (J70i0)

345 We were in Egypt when the Ceausescus fell.


When I was helping clean out the ex-wife's basement for a book drive one of the titles I laughed about was "Eastern Europe in the 1980s".

It was a college textbook and it was laughable because nothing important was going to happen in the 1980s. I took the course because the arcana was funny and I had discovered pot. It was all, "whoa, there's a difference between Romanian communism and Hungarian communism".

The professor, btw, was a friend of Zbig Brzezinski. Trond Gilberg. A Finn. I've looked him up. He got kicked out of the world for about $3,000 of bad expense accounts and was last heard from in Cambodia complaining that he can't get funding to publish his studies.

The world is a bitch.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 08, 2018 06:52 PM (fuK7c)

346 what bothers me about people like Flake, and I'm really thinking more of people like Kasich, is that they sound like a general who complains to the king (or president) that "well, yes, General Smith won that battle that won the war, but I would have been a much better choice to lead the army, because I might have lost but I would have lost with honor."

the neverTrumper will remain a pretty much permanent puzzle to me. OK, the establishment consultants would have made a whole lot more more if !Jeb! had been the candidate who lost to Hillary in 2016, and the Repub establishment would be in a much better position to ask for money to fight for conservative principles, but still.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 08, 2018 06:52 PM (KxbBq)

347 If the national mood changed they could build a world-class military in, oh, six years or so.

--

They won't have six years.
When the apocalypse happens, it will happen quickly.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (roQNm)

348
Because that's the way they want it. If the national mood changed they could build a world-class military in, oh, six years or so. They've done it before.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:51 PM (h2Bdk)


No they couldn't

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (10vO4)

349 Oh, that prev. message was all in response to Polliwog's question.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (p0Qbt)

350 333 323. Yup. Arabs sure as shit can't play tye Rooshian Anthem. The question is - was that deliberate trolling, or was that tue best they could do.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 06:49 PM (fA1SL)

Isn't music supposed to be forbidden under Shari'ah Law?

Posted by: Hikaru at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (2JsRn)

351 As a group, their economy is bigger than ours - do you really want to
see the birth of a powerful and potentially belligerent actor?
============================

What the hell?

Their economy, less exports to the United States (even net of imports) is dwarfed by ours (which is primarily domestic). They have no domestic defense capability to speak of. No domestic energy production outside of the diminishing production of the North Sea. And, as a group, they've been belligerent since the dawn of time. The likelihood any European unity will suddenly gel and a significant defense capability emerge is never going to happen, or at least not before I'm age 79 (I'm 29 today).

They will snap into line or get rolled, and they know it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm Your Huckleberry! at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (rBnYq)

352 Yeah the EU is a fiction, its nice on paper but they really are not a single unit in any real sense. If you combine several various countries you can equal the US GDP, but that doesn't mean they are a single, competitive body.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:50 PM (39g3+)


We were living in Europe when all that EU nonsense was coming into being. My wife and I laughed; it was obviously a pipe dream. Some countries (*cough* France *cough*) thought it should lead the whole thing, and the others should follow, with Germany picking up the tab.

Sure. Go with that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (oYp/M)

353 Because that's the way they want it. If the national mood changed they could build a world-class military in, oh, six years or so. They've done it before."

Those were different people, willing to take hardship in order to achieve national glory. (or something like that) No one in Europe believes in anything besides themselves anymore - well, except for the Moslems. There isn't a single one of them who would sacrifice himself for the "good of the nation". and that includes asking them to work more than 35 hours a week.

They won't do it. None of them will.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (k1TUh)

354 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:48 PM (39g3+)

Ahhh, it makes me proud to be an American.

Britain builds an aircraft carrier. A gigantic, floating city with its own airport.

And Americans look at it and say "Cute boat Mr. Bean. I think my pickup truck is just about big enough to tow that little guy."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (BRvh1)

355 The Big Boss Man spoke of "Our Allies" today...

Behold the top 20 in military might world wide..

https://tinyurl.com/hyoczja

Gee I don't seem to see Iran or North Korea...F'n Dems playing a BOO GAME on this country...and creating BOOGYMEN... Trump knows this. The NY street fighter is for realsies man!!

Posted by: Diogenese other brother Darrell at May 08, 2018 06:54 PM (ICWiF)

356 The likelihood any European unity will suddenly gel and a significant defense capability emerge is never going to happen, or at least not before I'm age 79 (I'm 29 today).

They will snap into line or get rolled, and they know it.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, I'm Your Huckleberry! at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (rBnYq)


Yep. Look at the Balkans. Genocide going on there? Oh noes. Much hand-wringing and pearl clutching by the "European Community." But no action until Clinton sent in American forces, while the Europeans held our coat and whined about the American hegemon.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:55 PM (oYp/M)

357 Germany has fewer functioning tanks or combat aircraft than the South Carolina National Guard (actual fact).



No sleep lost.

Posted by: Miklos, from where they make the big bombs at May 08, 2018 06:47 PM (zCyNd)
yeah, Germany has to be the richest nation with no effective military. It used to be Japan, but it has to be Germany now.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2018 06:55 PM (n13/j)

358 Anyway, Polliwog, drop me an email if you're going to be in the Don'tLaffYet area and can pick up one of my spare monitors.... I'd give you the Acer one, it's an older 19" flat screen with LED backlight.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 06:55 PM (p0Qbt)

359 348
Because that's the way they want it. If the national mood changed they could build a world-class military in, oh, six years or so. They've done it before.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:51 PM (h2Bdk)


No they couldn't
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (10vO4)


Yes. Yes they could.

Posted by: Marshall Foch at May 08, 2018 06:55 PM (h2Bdk)

360 Son got it loose. Turned off the computer for a bit. No luck when turning it on again. Guess I'll have to admit defeat and get a new monitor.

Thank you everyone for your help. At least this way I can be pretty confident that I've tried everything reasonable.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 06:55 PM (rp9xB)

361 Does this qualify as rape Tuesday? Come on Ace

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 08, 2018 06:56 PM (6Ll1u)

362 285
The Eurotrash have shown themselves to be feckless and feeble.

That the UK, a nation with a long maritime tradition, does not have at least 3 supercarriers, says so much.

And the UK have been the best of the lot over there.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 06:39 PM (ujg0T)


It was our military protection that allowed them to build their welfare states. Time to cut them off and let them sink or swim.

Posted by: rickl at May 08, 2018 06:56 PM (sdi6R)

363 They won't do it. None of them will.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (k1TUh)

I'm afraid there is an immense, resentful national will, that could all go very sideways very fast, if the wrong sonuvabitch got in charge in England, France or Germany right now.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 08, 2018 06:56 PM (BRvh1)

364 Isn't music supposed to be forbidden under Shari'ah Law?
Posted by: Hikaru at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (2JsRn)



Shari'ah Law?

No, she had music all the time on her show with Lamb Chop and Charlie Horse.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 08, 2018 06:56 PM (9q7Dl)

365 When CA is supposed to have the fifth largest economy in the world, the whole of Europe couldn't match a half of that.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 08, 2018 06:56 PM (/wVZo)

366 Conceiving a kid in an EA-6 would be...get video, and never admit it.

Posted by: JEM at May 08, 2018 06:37 PM (u7ERy)


I've a coworker that was an EA-6B guy...I'll have to ask him about the circumstances in which his son came into being.

Posted by: Bert G at May 08, 2018 06:56 PM (yzxic)

367 There isn't a single one of them who would sacrifice himself for the "good of the nation". and that includes asking them to work more than 35 hours a week.

They won't do it. None of them will.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (k1TUh)


IIRC, the Dutch military has the weekends off. So the Germans had better attack on a weekday.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:56 PM (oYp/M)

368 No they couldn't
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (10vO4)

Yup....Spineless, Gutless, Cheap and Unwashed is no way to go through life but the EuroWeenies are determined to do it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 08, 2018 06:57 PM (EoRCO)

369 yeah, Germany has to be the richest nation with no effective military. It used to be Japan, but it has to be Germany now.
Posted by: quint at May 08, 2018 06:55 PM (n13/j)


Japan, until just a year or two ago, had the most powerful not-a-navy-look-we-don't-have-carriers in the Far East.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 06:57 PM (h2Bdk)

370 The French still have an independent nuclear force, not sure what it is for but they have it. the force de frappe.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2018 06:46 PM (n13/j)



The only credible threat against British soccer hooligans.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 08, 2018 06:52 PM (J70i0)
heh - pictures that scene from Eurotrip.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2018 06:57 PM (n13/j)

371 CNN has a round up of all sorts of statements from various human looking toads about Trump and the deal.

Surprisingly, every single one of them is negative about Trump's action.

I mean, you'd think someone of note might actually support it.

And, you know, I'm old enough to remember the multiple times Donald Trump very clearly said the deal was a flaming pile of shit and he would get rid of it and do something better.

Another promise kept!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 08, 2018 06:58 PM (4ErVI)

372 If the national mood changed they could build a world-class military in, oh, six years or so.


If my Grandma had wheels she'd be a school bus.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 06:58 PM (yQpMk)

373 342 Well this is pretty fucked up.

https://tinyurl.com/ybog586t

Yeah that impending indictment was reported somewhere a couple weeks ago. What it means, I think, is that China for years has already had double agents placed deeply inside our CIA - we have no secrets from them anymore. This guy was just one of them, but foolish to think he was the only one.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 06:58 PM (k1TUh)

374 If the national mood changed they could build a world-class military in, oh, six years or so.


And Americans look at it and say "Cute boat Mr. Bean. I think my pickup truck is just about big enough to tow that little guy."

Well as Tom Servo points out above, the British design was specifically built for Harriers, they are short runways with a ski jump on the end like a cartoon (or a 1915 aircraft carrier conversion) that they can't fly anything off of right now.

There's no way in hell they have the resources or the will to build any military. Several people have pointed out why, above: it would require them to shuffle their budget away from the handouts and welfare. And they can't do that without riots and the government being violently deposed. Look at Greece, they tried to add a day back on to their work week and cities burned.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:58 PM (39g3+)

375 I'm afraid there is an immense, resentful national will, that could all go very sideways very fast, if the wrong sonuvabitch got in charge in England, France or Germany right now.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 08, 2018 06:56 PM (BRvh1)


Nah. Seriously, after living there for many years, I don't see it. They're just too comfy and too socialist-infected. Patriotism (or as they would term it, "nationalism") is now foreign to them. Citizens of the world, with lengthy vacations and cushy lives, is more like it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:59 PM (oYp/M)

376 message from Kerry, barry jeff and john- I just don't think I can support this country.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 08, 2018 06:59 PM (/wVZo)

377 Speaking of not running for reelection, Q advised that those who were corrupt were being forced to resign or not seek reelection. Here's the list so far:

"Review Time.
Not seeking re-election.
[Senate]
Bob Corker - Republican
Jeff Flake - Republican
Orrin Hatch - Republican
No Name - Republican [Departure Soon]
[House]
Bill Shuster - Republican
Bob Goodlatte - Republican
Carol Shea-Porter - Democrat
Charles W. Dent - Republican
Darrell Issa - Republican
Dave Reichert - Republican
David Trott - Republican
Dennis Ross - Republican
Edward Royce - Republican
Elizabeth Esty - Democrat
Frank LoBiondo - Republican
Gene Green - Democrat
Gregg Harper - Republican
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen - Republican
Jeb Hensarling - Republican
Jim Bridenstine - Republican
Joe Barton - Republican
John Delaney - Democrat
John J. Duncan, Jr. - Republican
Lamar Smith - Republican
Luis V. Gutierrez - Democrat
Lynn Jenkins - Republican
Niki Tsongas - Democrat
Paul Ryan - Republican
Rick Nolan - Democrat
Robert Brady - Democrat
Rodney Frelinghuysen - Republican
Ruben J. Kihuen - Democrat
Ryan Costello - Republican
Sam Johnson - Republican
Sandy Levin - Democrat
Ted Poe - Republican
Thomas Rooney - Republican
Trey Gowdy - Republican
[Resigned]
Al Franken - Democratic U.S. Senate
Blake Farenthold - Republican U.S. House
Jason Chaffetz - Republican U.S. House
John Conyers, Jr. - Democrat U.S. House
Louise Slaughter - Democrat U.S. House
Patrick Meehan - Republican U.S. House
Patrick J. Tiberi - Republican U.S. House
Thad Cochran - Republican U.S. Senate
Tim Murphy - Republican U.S. House
Trent Franks - Republican U.S. House
Xavier Becerra - Democrat Attorney General of California
+ DOJ
+ FBI
+ CEOs
Conspiracy?
Nothing happening?
Goodlatte & Gowdy [important].
Chairman of the House Committee on the Judiciary.
Chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.
Why is the NY AG resignation important?
What past/current 'high profile' FBI investigations are within the jurisdiction of NY?
Define roadblock.
You have more than you know.
Do not fall victim to MSM/other fake/false narrative pushes. "

That's a pretty substantial list. He also says lots of corporate resignations are to be expected too, including Eric Schmidt of Google (already happened).

Posted by: pete at May 08, 2018 06:59 PM (Hel/g)

378 I'm afraid there is an immense, resentful national will, that could all go very sideways very fast, if the wrong sonuvabitch got in charge in England, France or Germany right now.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 08, 2018 06:56 PM (BRvh1)

Concern Troll much?

Posted by: Diogenese other brother Darrell at May 08, 2018 07:00 PM (ICWiF)

379 I'm afraid there is an immense, resentful national will, that could all go very sideways very fast, if the wrong sonuvabitch got in charge in England, France or Germany right now."

Come on. They don't even have the will to stop their wives and daughters from getting raped by some dirty, stinking barbarians who roam their streets. If men won't stand up against that, they won't stand up for anything.

Europe is dead.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 07:01 PM (k1TUh)

380 re the national mood and German rearmament: Hitler would have never won an election if Germany had had a good economy. Massive unemployment leads to voters being stupid. As proof, think America 2008

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 08, 2018 07:01 PM (KxbBq)

381 >>>The French still have an independent nuclear force, not sure what it is for but they have it. the force de frappe.


The French originally developed nukes because they felt inferior to their atomic-powered Anglo-Saxon "allies".

Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 08, 2018 07:02 PM (ppaKI)

382 I'm afraid there is an immense, resentful national will, that could all go very sideways very fast

Yes but even assuming that could happen against all known evidence, that would result in European war, not a concern to us at all. I simply do not give a damn if Germany tries to take over Europe again. Knock your teutonic hearts out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 07:02 PM (39g3+)

383 There's no way in hell they have the resources or the will to build any military. Several people have pointed out why, above: it would require them to shuffle their budget away from the handouts and welfare. And they can't do that without riots and the government being violently deposed. Look at Greece, they tried to add a day back on to their work week and cities burned.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 06:58 PM (39g3+)


National will is a funny thing. A few years of economic depression, a national incident in which they feel slighted, the right sort of demagogue in charge... things can turn quickly. What would make the Germans unusually dangerous in this respect is they retain all the heavy manufacturing and tooling capability we've lost in the US.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:02 PM (h2Bdk)

384 I'm afraid there is an immense, resentful national will, that could all go very sideways very fast, if the wrong sonuvabitch got in charge in England, France or Germany right now.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 08, 2018 06:56 PM (BRvh1)


I'm lookng at a map right here ... and it sure looks like Europe is more than ten miles away to me ...

... hence - not my problem.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 08, 2018 07:02 PM (EV+4+)

385 Come on. They don't even have the will to stop their wives and daughters from getting raped by some dirty, stinking barbarians who roam their streets. If men won't stand up against that, they won't stand up for anything.

Europe is dead.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 07:01 PM (k1TUh)


This.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:02 PM (oYp/M)

386 That's a pretty substantial list. He also says lots of corporate resignations are to be expected too, including Eric Schmidt of Google (already happened).
Posted by: pete at May 08, 2018 06:59 PM (Hel/g)

Yo Pete thanks My-T-Fine.. the Big Boss Man shaking things up..

Steady she goes into the mid terms.. Dems have jack squat in terms of viable candidates..

Posted by: Diogenese other brother Darrell at May 08, 2018 07:03 PM (ICWiF)

387 Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 06:52 PM (p0Qbt)

Not TMI, thank you for answering. Make sure to get yourself put on the Wednesday prayer list. Fenelon is organization ng it now and her email should be on recent lists. Unless you'd be okay with one of us doing so?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 07:03 PM (rp9xB)

388 Nah. Seriously, after living there for many years, I don't see it. They're just too comfy and too socialist-infected. Patriotism (or as they would term it, "nationalism") is now foreign to them. Citizens of the world, with lengthy vacations and cushy lives, is more like it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:59 PM (oYp/M)

I'll take your word for it. My experience of Europe in general these days is tangential and out-of-date at best.

It's just a vague gut-feeling I have, all the same.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 08, 2018 07:03 PM (BRvh1)

389 The French originally developed nukes because they felt inferior to their atomic-powered Anglo-Saxon "allies".
Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 08, 2018 07:02 PM (ppaKI)


They ARE inferior.

They just refuse to accept it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:03 PM (oYp/M)

390 385 Come on. They don't even have the will to stop their wives and daughters from getting raped by some dirty, stinking barbarians who roam their streets. If men won't stand up against that, they won't stand up for anything.

Europe is dead.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 07:01 PM (k1TUh)

This.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:02 PM (oYp/M)


Gol Dang Right

Posted by: Diogenese other brother Darrell at May 08, 2018 07:03 PM (ICWiF)

391 and England doesn't need to worry about a traditional war when the welcome an invasion by a hostile force.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 08, 2018 07:03 PM (KxbBq)

392 I'm pretty sure that's Flake is the Game-Show Host of "Who's Inside My Husband?

Posted by: ShainS at May 08, 2018 07:04 PM (MSgeA)

393
US population: 315 million
Number of patent filings in the last 10 years with US priority: 2 million.

EU population: 510 million
Number of patent filings in the last 10 years with priority from EU countries: 1.2 million.

Take Germany out and it's even more ghastly.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 08, 2018 07:04 PM (W1AtH)

394 I'm lookng at a map right here ... and it sure looks like Europe is more than ten miles away to me ...

... hence - not my problem.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 08, 2018 07:02 PM (EV+4+)

Yeah, but what's that in kilometers?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 08, 2018 07:04 PM (BRvh1)

395 >>>I'm afraid there is an immense, resentful national will, that could all go very sideways very fast, if the wrong sonuvabitch got in charge in England, France or Germany right now.

We're talking about a Germany and France where a recent poll found overwhelming preference for social justice at the expense of personal freedom. They're dead, they just haven't realized it.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 08, 2018 07:04 PM (ppaKI)

396 380 re the national mood and German rearmament: Hitler would have never won an election if Germany had had a good economy. Massive unemployment leads to voters being stupid. As proof, think America 2008
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 08, 2018 07:01 PM (KxbBq)


The economy was a factor, but the major factor was galloping negrophilia. There's a reason Hillary got shoved aside.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:04 PM (oYp/M)

397 Can Santa of Death visit Flake while picking up McCain?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 08, 2018 07:05 PM (vV/gB)

398 Coming to America part 2 Should be hilarious

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 08, 2018 07:05 PM (6Ll1u)

399 367 IIRC, the Dutch military has the weekends off. So the Germans had better attack on a weekday.

IIRC, just a few years ago there was a hijacked airliner flown to Switzerland without being intercepted because the Swiss Air Force goes home at 5.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 08, 2018 07:05 PM (sGtp+)

400
If the national mood changed they could build a world-class military in, oh, six years or so.

Two generations of Europeans have grown up without any tradition of service to their country. Combine that with the billions of Euros it would cost and you have zero chance of that happening.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 08, 2018 07:06 PM (10vO4)

401 389 The French originally developed nukes because they felt inferior to their atomic-powered Anglo-Saxon "allies".
Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 08, 2018 07:02 PM (ppaKI)

They ARE inferior.

They just refuse to accept it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:03 PM (oYp/M)


I'll say one thing for the French. They have no patience for that "salad bowl" bullshit. When you immigrate to France, you become French: You learn the French language, you drink coffee in tiny cups, you have mistresses...

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:06 PM (h2Bdk)

402 I wonder how much influence all those Muzzy 'immigrants ' have on European governments, even if they are not voting or have any representatives they have, having a hostile population within their countries might be a influence.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2018 07:06 PM (aC6Sd)

403 England seems ultra-eager to hand the reigns of power over to Islam, and I don't see how that doesn't equal The Shit Hits The Fan.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 08, 2018 07:07 PM (2JsRn)

404 I'll say one thing for the French. They have no patience for that "salad bowl" bullshit. When you immigrate to France, you become French: You learn the French language, you drink coffee in tiny cups, you have mistresses...
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and bathe infrequently.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 08, 2018 07:07 PM (vV/gB)

405 There's no way in hell they have the resources or the will to build any military. Several people have pointed out why, above: it would require them to shuffle their budget away from the handouts and welfare."

The Brits pretty openly admit that the NHS takes up all the money that used to go to the Military. Basically, they shut down and disbanded most of their military so they could pretend that they all had wonderful free health care. And they were confident that they could lean on the good old Uncle Sugar if they ever really need any help.

Now that I think of it, I can think of one thing that would infuriate the Brits so much that they would come out on the streets, ready to fight. Tell them they'll have to pay for their healthcare, it won't be free anymore. Also, raise the price of their booze. That's about the only two things I could ever imagine a Brit being willing to fight about these days.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 07:07 PM (k1TUh)

406 Europe is most likely dead, but many felt the same way about America after the 2012 elections. Never say never.

Posted by: josephistan at May 08, 2018 07:07 PM (ANIFC)

407 Polli: I don't have Fen's email (or yours, I was just looking for it earlier) so I don't mind. I need a) continued recovery of heart, b) blood pressure, c) I now need to lose weight again, and d) a sane work environment. ("So, something outside the oilfield, maybe?")

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 07:07 PM (p0Qbt)

408 >>>Coming to America part 2 Should be hilarious



Akeem kills all the white farmers and takes their land, with hilarious consequences.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 08, 2018 07:08 PM (ppaKI)

409 No they couldn't

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (10vO4)
I agree on this, that time has past. They do make some really good kitchen knives and appliances though.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2018 07:08 PM (n13/j)

410 Is France a festering boil or a dumpster fire? I forget.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 08, 2018 07:08 PM (RuIsu)

411 ttyl going to primary race results

Posted by: Diogenese other brother Darrell at May 08, 2018 07:08 PM (ICWiF)

412 I'll say one thing for the French. They have no patience for that "salad bowl" bullshit. When you immigrate to France, you become French: You learn the French language, you drink coffee in tiny cups, you have mistresses...
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:06 PM (h2Bdk)


... you keep your ass out of the banlieus ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:08 PM (oYp/M)

413 Two generations of Europeans have grown up without any tradition of service to their country.


Umm...I'm not sure how many generations ago my generation was, but in my generation Germans went to the Army before they went to college.

We Americans used college as the big rubber room where Mom doesn't know what we're doing and the Germans were already 26 and wanted to learn something.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 08, 2018 07:08 PM (fuK7c)

414 re 396: I get your sarcasm, but after what had gone on elsewhere in the 1920s, I don't doubt many Germans were deeply afraid of a Communist party win.

Bela's Kun's brief reign in Hungary c 1920 would have been enough to scare the crap out of a lot of people.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 08, 2018 07:08 PM (KxbBq)

415 I'll say one thing for the French. They have no patience for that "salad bowl" bullshit. When you immigrate to France, you become French: You learn the French language, you drink coffee in tiny cups, you have mistresses...

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:06 PM (h2Bdk)



And I will say this for the Frogs: while they are definitely NOT team players, they will, in their own way, make a stand.

Example: they would not go along with us when we gave Moe Quaddafi the bombing he needed in 1985. However, at the same time, when Moe was meddling in Chad, one of their former colonies, the Frogs did send troops to boot Moe and his goons out.

What they just need is another Sarkozy, or better yet, another Le Pen.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 07:09 PM (ujg0T)

416 Two generations of Europeans have grown up without any tradition of service to their country. Combine that with the billions of Euros it would cost and you have zero chance of that happening.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 08, 2018 07:06 PM (10vO4)

That's a massively important point.

Europe really hasn't had a good half-century or so of no intra-continental fighting since... well, a long goddamn time, let's put it that way. All my instincts for thinking about the resurgence of nationalism in a decadent society may be completely inoperable in this particular case.

Maybe they really are all boned.

Mecca is generally speaking to the SE of Europe, right?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 08, 2018 07:09 PM (BRvh1)

417 I'll say one thing for the French. They have no patience for that "salad bowl" bullshit. When you immigrate to France, you become French: You learn the French language, you drink coffee in tiny cups, you have mistresses...
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and bathe infrequently.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 08, 2018 07:07 PM (vV/gB)

And VD. Gotta have the VD.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 08, 2018 07:09 PM (EoRCO)

418 Well, it's not like he didn't warn us. His name is Flake.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at May 08, 2018 07:09 PM (y1gYQ)

419 Yeah, but what's that in kilometers?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 08, 2018 07:04 PM (BRvh1)


I was told there would be no math.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 08, 2018 07:09 PM (EV+4+)

420 Have you seen Jeff Flake's wife? I'd schtupp her.

Posted by: RichieC at May 08, 2018 07:10 PM (838ff)

421 ... you keep your ass out of the banlieus ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:08 PM (oYp/M)


How is that different from Americans staying out of Watts and South Chicago?

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:10 PM (h2Bdk)

422 Not everyone who disagrees with PDT is an idiot. But it's a good indicator.

Posted by: DaveA at May 08, 2018 07:10 PM (FhXTo)

423 Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 06:52 PM (p0Qbt)

Prayers, Thing.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 08, 2018 07:10 PM (hMwEB)

424 In the event that any Mexican women publicly claim that I slapped them around before inserting all three inches of my fully erect manhood in their ears, I maintain that any such unsatisfying and weird relations that may or may not have occurred were consensual role-playing. Nonetheless it goes without saying that I fully support the brave women of the #metoo movement and here's a $5,000 donation to Planned Parenthood Arizona to prevent any unwanted Mexican ear babies.

Posted by: Jeff Compromised Flake at May 08, 2018 07:10 PM (XcgmW)

425 Step 1 : Kill Whitey
Step 2: ?????

Step 3 : Wakanda!

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2018 07:10 PM (m0ex2)

426 heh - pictures that scene from Eurotrip.
Posted by: quint at May 08, 2018 06:57 PM (n13/j)

Old website World Wide Web Fights used to have debates on who would win a fight. One was British soccer hooligans against the French army. A guy, from Texas, in the comments section talked about traveling across Europe. He said the soccer hooligans were simply as tough as Texans in a bar fight. In France he laughed at a pathetic bar fight where the police with submachine guns were getting knocked out by women. He obviously voted for the Brits.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 08, 2018 07:10 PM (J70i0)

427 397 Can Santa of Death visit Flake while picking up McCain?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 08, 2018 07:05 PM (vV/gB)

Linseed Graham is already preparing for Suttee.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 08, 2018 07:11 PM (4ErVI)

428 Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 07:07 PM (p0Qbt)

You can probably contact me through Blizzard chat (social tab in the app) as long as you still have me as a friend there.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 07:11 PM (rp9xB)

429
Come on. They don't even have the will to stop their wives and daughters from getting raped by some dirty, stinking barbarians who roam their streets. If men won't stand up against that, they won't stand up for anything.
Europe is dead.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 07:01 PM (k1TUh)

Don't forget that a few years ago a British soldier was beheaded on the street of an English city in broad daylight and the Brits didn't bat an eye about it

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 08, 2018 07:11 PM (10vO4)

430 The Brits pretty openly admit that the NHS takes up all the money that used to go to the Military. Basically, they shut down and disbanded most of their military so they could pretend that they all had wonderful free health care. And they were confident that they could lean on the good old Uncle Sugar if they ever really need any help.

Fun fact: Marshall Plan aid to Germany was spent on rebuilding infrastructure, etc., as the Allies still ran the place. Upshot: the German economic miracle.

Marshall Plan aid to Britain was spent on building tower blocks (the ones they're been dynamiting) and the NHS. Upshot: economic stagnation.

Gotta be a moral buried in there somewhere.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:11 PM (oYp/M)

431
I'll be happy to straighten Flake's nose for him.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 08, 2018 07:11 PM (NJeCt)

432 you keep your ass out of the banlieus ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:08 PM (oYp/M)



How is that different from Americans staying out of Watts and South Chicago?


I'm headed to Gary later this week. The town not the hood.

Posted by: DaveA at May 08, 2018 07:11 PM (FhXTo)

433 As bad as the shift to the left is here in the US Europe is in even worse shape. There is no credible threat to us outside of Asia. (ME/China/Norks).

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 08, 2018 07:11 PM (0OmEj)

434 425 Step 1 : Kill Whitey
Step 2: ?????

Step 3 : Wakanda!
Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2018 07:10 PM (m0ex2)


Sadly, there are people who believe this.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:12 PM (h2Bdk)

435 Norman Tebbit used to say that the NHS was the largest employer in Europe - after the Red Army.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:12 PM (oYp/M)

436 342 Well this is pretty fucked up.

https://tinyurl.com/ybog586t
Posted by: JackStraw at May 08, 2018 06:52 PM (/tuJf)

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I'm not sure how they can with a straight face charge anyone for illegal retention of documents after Clinton.

#twolaws

Posted by: MAGA at May 08, 2018 07:12 PM (LnOh3)

437 Trump should respect McTumoh's wishes and not attend the funeral...he should buzz the graveside services in Air Force One.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at May 08, 2018 07:12 PM (bML9A)

438 Umm...I'm not sure how many generations ago my generation was, but in my generation Germans went to the Army before they went to college.

But that was for the Driving School. And it was only two years, and they barely had to cut their hair.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 07:12 PM (yQpMk)

439 https://tinyurl.com/yajzae2q

Bibi already bombing the shit out of the Iranians.

Trump in real time.

Posted by: Diogenese other brother Darrell at May 08, 2018 07:12 PM (ICWiF)

440 Sadly, there are people who believe this.
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:12 PM (h2Bdk)


What's that term for people who harbor stupid notions?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:12 PM (oYp/M)

441 We were living in Europe when all that EU nonsense
was coming into being. My wife and I laughed; it was obviously a pipe
dream. Some countries (*cough* France *cough*) thought it should lead
the whole thing, and the others should follow, with Germany picking up
the tab.



Sure. Go with that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 06:53 PM (oYp/M)

Yep, that was always the case. Chirac and Shcroeder were as anti-American as any pair could be. Remember they were going to build a powerful "independent" EU army? Good times.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2018 07:13 PM (n13/j)

442 and so far as the Germans are concerned, I am reminded of something Ralph Peters wrote some years ago: when your country is attacked by another country, you don't just beat them back, you give them such a horrible beating that it will be at least three generations before they even think of attacking you again.
The Germans might not yet have recovered from that horrible beating. The French and the English on the other hand, I dunno.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 08, 2018 07:13 PM (KxbBq)

443 How is that different from Americans staying out of Watts and South Chicago?

It isn't.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:13 PM (oYp/M)

444 the Dutch military has the weekends off

feh

Posted by: The Peruvian Military at May 08, 2018 07:14 PM (Tyii7)

445

Marshall Plan aid to Britain was spent on building tower blocks (the ones they're been dynamiting) and the NHS. Upshot: economic stagnation.


Correlli Barnett is scathing about this point.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 08, 2018 07:14 PM (/sirL)

446 My favorite cereal is Captain Crunch. Can I be Senator now???

Posted by: Mitt Romney, Going Lower at May 08, 2018 07:14 PM (XcgmW)

447 408 Akeem kills all the white farmers and takes their land, with hilarious consequences.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 08, 2018 07:08 PM (ppaKI)

A bunch of Ethnically Chinese throw him out of the country for scoring lower than 115 on an IQ test.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 08, 2018 07:14 PM (2JsRn)

448 How is that different from Americans staying out of Watts and South Chicago?

The difference is that they're importing the problem that they didn't need to have. Our problem arose from historical circumstances that we can't do much about now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:14 PM (oYp/M)

449 What's that term for people who harbor stupid notions?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:12 PM (oYp/M)

Democrat?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 08, 2018 07:14 PM (BRvh1)

450 433 As bad as the shift to the left is here in the US Europe is in even worse shape. There is no credible threat to us outside of Asia. (ME/China/Norks).
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 08, 2018 07:11 PM (0OmEj)


Today, sure. All I'm saying is let sleeping dogs lie. The Germans and the French are trying to create a United States of Europe, complete with modern military. We don't need to help that along by showing their people disrespect.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:15 PM (h2Bdk)

451 you keep your ass out of the banlieus ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:08 PM (oYp/M)

How is that different from Americans staying out of Watts and South Chicago?

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:10 PM (h2Bdk)

The quality of the foie gras?

Posted by: Miklos, ready for mealtime at May 08, 2018 07:15 PM (zCyNd)

452 421 ... you keep your ass out of the banlieus ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 08, 2018 07:08 PM (oYp/M)

How is that different from Americans staying out of Watts and South Chicago?
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:10 PM (h2Bdk)



Sadly true. We have ceded many inner cities to savages, because "Waah! Rayciss!"

It is really getting to the point where more than a few "African Anti-Americans" should be told they have three choices:
1. Get with the American Dream program,
2. Deport yourselves to a magical Wakanda, whereever it is, maybe the "Republic Of South Africa" will suffice, or
3. Prepare for incarceration.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 08, 2018 07:15 PM (ujg0T)

453
I am reminded of something Ralph Peters wrote some years ago: when your country is attacked by another country, you don't just beat them back, you give them such a horrible beating that it will be at least three generations before they even think of attacking you again.


Peters stole that from Gen. Sherman

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 08, 2018 07:16 PM (10vO4)

454 ok, alcohol calls in it's deep and sweet voice, be back later. Unless I get run over or something, in which case I'll be back much later

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 08, 2018 07:16 PM (KxbBq)

455 What would make the Germans unusually dangerous in this respect is they retain all the heavy manufacturing and tooling capability we've lost in the US.
Posted by: Ace's liver

Really. All of it?

I think we still have heavy manufacturing and tooling capability, and it can come back. And new works can be built.

Posted by: booknlass at May 08, 2018 07:16 PM (uJ09Y)

456 Mrs. Flake is with The Paolo because Mr. Flake gets off to things that even disgust ME!

But only a little bit...

Posted by: Anthony Weiner - Sexpert at May 08, 2018 07:16 PM (7Aq6m)

457 Only 1 reason I think Europe is done, they have millions of invaders and besides not leaving they are breading.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2018 07:16 PM (aC6Sd)

458 So how did the IG testimony go today?

Posted by: MAGA at May 08, 2018 07:17 PM (LnOh3)

459 404 I'll say one thing for the French. They have no patience for that "salad bowl" bullshit. When you immigrate to France, you become French: You learn the French language, you drink coffee in tiny cups, you have mistresses...
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and bathe infrequently.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 08, 2018 07:07 PM (vV/gB)


The Muslim immigrants have got that last part down already.

Posted by: rickl at May 08, 2018 07:17 PM (sdi6R)

460 I've "won" on that show so many times.

Oh God it's horrible.

WHY ME????

Posted by: Bill Kristol at May 08, 2018 07:18 PM (7Aq6m)

461 457 Only 1 reason I think Europe is done, they have millions of invaders and besides not leaving they are breading.
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I hate breaded invaders. Much prefer them spatchcocked.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 08, 2018 07:18 PM (vV/gB)

462 Only 1 reason I think Europe is done, they have millions of invaders and besides not leaving they are breading.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2018 07:16 PM (aC6Sd)

Breading the Wiener schnitzel, I hope.

Posted by: Miklos, really ready for mealtime at May 08, 2018 07:18 PM (zCyNd)

463 America has quite a bit of manufacturing still in the country, we just make different stuff than we used to. We don't make cheap widgets but we still make cars and we make other stuff like air conditioning units.

The USA has lost a lot of its old manufacturing work, but it still has quite a bit going. The problem is that the shift cost a ton of old jobs and hurt a lot of people in places like Detroit and Pittsburgh

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 08, 2018 07:19 PM (39g3+)

464 Magyar, Dacians, and SMR - those three are the only European nations that could, theoretically, DO WHAT MUST BE DONE.
The sun sets in the west for a reason.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 07:19 PM (fA1SL)

465 The Euro's are far from Unity on any front. Economic/Military/Culture. None nada zippo unity. Until that changes I would not be too worried about them.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 08, 2018 07:19 PM (0OmEj)

466 White or whole wheat?

Posted by: Breaded Invaders at May 08, 2018 07:19 PM (Tyii7)

467 Iran remains a pissant country with the GDP of Dallas-Fort Worth, almost all of which is from a commodity that must be exported by tanker or exposed pipeline. Put me in charge and I'll have the mullahs overthrown in 6 months and we will never put a boot on the ground in Iran.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 07:19 PM (yQpMk)

468 Damn,
Type,
Read
Post

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2018 07:20 PM (aC6Sd)

469 464 Magyar, Dacians, and SMR - those three are the only European nations that could, theoretically, DO WHAT MUST BE DONE.
The sun sets in the west for a reason.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 07:19 PM (fA1SL)

SMR is too obsessed with giving us the middle finger.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 08, 2018 07:20 PM (2JsRn)

470 Is this the show where I guess which Chubby Chasing drug dealer is finger banging my failed comedian Niece in the back of an unlicensed Uber?

Posted by: Cryin' Cuck Schumer at May 08, 2018 07:21 PM (7Aq6m)

471 There is no credible threat to us outside of Asia. (ME/China/Norks).

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 08, 2018 07:11 PM (0OmEj)


Russia still has one of those big nuclear arsenals with missiles and shit. I guess you'd call Russia "Asia", anyway.

And Mexico has been doing a bang-up job building up an invasion force of tens of millions that is eating us up from the inside, as we speak. It's amazing that Mexico has been this shit for so long and has never had to answer for committing such continuing acts of war against us.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 08, 2018 07:21 PM (CNdnD)

472 >>> Put me in charge and I'll have the mullahs overthrown in 6 months and we will never put a boot on the ground in Iran.


And a very pissed-off group of Gulf states that would be happy to help.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 08, 2018 07:21 PM (ppaKI)

473 Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 07:07 PM (p0Qbt)

Assuming I did it right on this tablet, the request has been sent. It's too late to get it on this week's, but hopefully will be there next week.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 07:22 PM (rp9xB)

474 469. Yeah, but Slavs gotta Slav, ya know? As I explained to a friend of mine, in re my SMR friends, 'No, it's not that they hate you. They just don't like you.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 07:22 PM (fA1SL)

475 469 464 Magyar, Dacians, and SMR - those three are the only European nations that could, theoretically, DO WHAT MUST BE DONE.
The sun sets in the west for a reason.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 07:19 PM (fA1SL)

SMR is too obsessed with giving us the middle finger.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 08, 2018 07:20 PM (2JsRn)

SMR? Socialist Magicians Republic?

Posted by: josephistan at May 08, 2018 07:22 PM (ANIFC)

476 MAGA, it was announced last week or earlier that the IG testimony was being postponed.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2018 07:22 PM (QDnY+)

477 I have an idea for higher education reform that I want to discuss with the Morons, but not on the fag end of an unrelated thread.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 07:22 PM (yQpMk)

478 Magyar, Dacians, and SMR - those three are the only European nations that could, theoretically, DO WHAT MUST BE DONE.

The Hungarians and Romanians must first settle old animosities. I propose alcohol and interbreeding.

I am prepared to fully support sororal/fraternal fraternization.

For the children.

Posted by: Miklos, Lenin Peace Prize future nominee at May 08, 2018 07:23 PM (zCyNd)

479 475. Slavic Master Race.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 07:23 PM (fA1SL)

480 Forgive me, but McCain is most likely *not* going to evolve when he gets out of office.


What's Beethoven doin' in that box?

Posted by: fretless at May 08, 2018 07:23 PM (uDTP4)

481 What's Beethoven doin' in that box?


I hear music playing backwards..

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 08, 2018 07:24 PM (yQpMk)

482 baseball NOOD

Posted by: josephistan at May 08, 2018 07:24 PM (ANIFC)

483 Polli: I'll have to do a little reformatting with my little netbook here, so I can get some space for the blizzard app. I haven't been doing WoW lately. The last six months I've been kinda-sorta sporadically full-time with work, and it's tiring.

(That, and I basically only have linux on this thing and have to run games in WINE, and also Star Drek Online. I should really rename all my ships Peruvia...)

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 07:24 PM (p0Qbt)

484 Yep, that was always the case. Chirac and Shcroeder were as anti-American as any pair could be. Remember they were going to build a powerful "independent" EU army? Good times.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2018 07:13 PM (n13/j)

The problem was that Chirac worked at McDonald's while a student in the US.

Schroder got rooked on a Wendy's franchise in Dusseldorf.

Posted by: Miklos, examining the franchise model at May 08, 2018 07:24 PM (zCyNd)

485 478. Could be worth trying. Look at Jugoslavia - decades of booze, intermarriage, amd a crushing, brutal Marshal to rule them all. It worked, yes?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 07:24 PM (fA1SL)

486 The decomposing composers ... there's less of them every year.

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at May 08, 2018 07:25 PM (AoK0a)

487 nood

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Lift Your Spirits with The Hymns of James Comey from the Outrage Outlet! at May 08, 2018 07:25 PM (0QYMt)

488 Listen hear you Morons.

When I say I do it for all the children, I mean it.

Don't tell Sessions OK? The wife figured it out years ago. Harry Reid too.

Posted by: Jeff Flake - 2020 at May 08, 2018 07:25 PM (rNGKx)

489 Slavic Master Race.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 07:23 PM (fA1SL)


That's quite the oxymoronic expression, there ..

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 08, 2018 07:25 PM (CNdnD)

490 At least this way I can be pretty confident that I've tried everything reasonable.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 06:55 PM (rp9xB)


Let this be an object lesson to you about where being reasonable gets you.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 08, 2018 07:25 PM (y87Qq)

491 nood baseball

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 08, 2018 07:26 PM (eASYU)

492 33 The really weird thing is that there is NO constituency for backing Iran here in this country - it is an outrageously anti-American position to take, and yet Flake and Kasich and the rest of the Never Trumpers are so sold on this that they're now determined to attack their own countries best interests, just because it's the opposite of what Trump wants.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 08, 2018 05:56 PM (k1TUh)

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It's about money. Iran is going to spend some of its billions on purchases from Western countries. An aspiring Mr. Fix-it like flake can get some of the skim if he makes himself useful. Especially now, when it looks like Trump is about to fuck up all their plans.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 08, 2018 07:26 PM (cxJuv)

493 yes Primoridial, I agree with you.

The Mexican government has an entire branch of their government dealing with their citizens who live illegally in America.

the American money sent home to Mexico is part of their economy.

Although many Mexican people have become legal American citizens and love America, many don't, and are part of the Democrats "fifth column" trying to make America into Europe.

Posted by: booknlass at May 08, 2018 07:26 PM (uJ09Y)

494 Could be worth trying. Look at Jugoslavia - decades of booze, intermarriage, amd a crushing, brutal Marshal to rule them all. It worked, yes?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 07:24 PM (fA1SL)

It is all explained in the book "I was Tito's Optician"

Posted by: Miklos, squinting a bit at May 08, 2018 07:27 PM (zCyNd)

495 The Mexican government has an entire branch of their government dealing with their citizens who live illegally in America.

Posted by: booknlass at May 08, 2018 07:26 PM (uJ09Y)


That was bad enough but Mexico has since taken to faciltating the transport of untold millions of Central and South Americans through their territory to invade us. It is nothing but flat-out war.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 08, 2018 07:28 PM (CNdnD)

496 474 469. Yeah, but Slavs gotta Slav, ya know? As I explained to a friend of mine, in re my SMR friends, 'No, it's not that they hate you. They just don't like you.'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 07:22 PM (fA1SL)

I do have to say that you're awfully magnanimous and humble for someone who's not only the Chosen Race, but also the Toughest Race.

I'm legit jealous.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 08, 2018 07:29 PM (2JsRn)

497 455 What would make the Germans unusually dangerous in this respect is they retain all the heavy manufacturing and tooling capability we've lost in the US.
Posted by: Ace's liver

Really. All of it?

I think we still have heavy manufacturing and tooling capability, and it can come back. And new works can be built.
Posted by: booknlass at May 08, 2018 07:16 PM (uJ09Y)


Have you been following the US Navy's attempt to build a new ship? Any ship? They recently cut a hurried contract to build more Arleigh Burkes (a 1991 design) because the Zumwalt is an overpriced failure. Before that it was the Littoral Combat Ship, which was so shoddy the welds started leaking before it was even underway.

We haven't had a new tank since 1980.

We've been building fighters, but the newest one is so expensive we can only afford a tiny fraction of the numbers we need, so the F-15 is being extended as an "arsenal plane".

So yes. We have lost a great deal of the manufacturing capability we once had. The new designs are grossly overpriced or underperforming or both.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:29 PM (h2Bdk)

498 But what does Egg McMuffin think about the deal? Unless he's been too busy not paying his staff and avoiding FCC warnings to offer an opinion.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue Tarrasque enthusiast at May 08, 2018 07:29 PM (BRpqW)

499 493
Although many Mexican people have become legal American citizens and love America, many don't, and are part of the Democrats "fifth column" trying to make America into Europe.
Posted by: booknlass at May 08, 2018 07:26 PM (uJ09Y)


And even if the immigrants love America when they arrive, when their children go to our schools they will be taught that America is a land of racism and oppression. A far cry from the "melting pot" of previous generations of immigrants.

Posted by: rickl at May 08, 2018 07:30 PM (sdi6R)

500 Pallets of cash to the Mullahs and men in the girls restroom. My life, my legacy.

Posted by: President O'Bathroom at May 08, 2018 07:31 PM (BRpqW)

501 When I heard about this 'refugee train' I recalled the trains that the traitor who was president before President Trump used to get the young seeds of damnation up here.

Same practice. Soros and Obama at the root of it?

Posted by: booknlass at May 08, 2018 07:31 PM (uJ09Y)

502 So yes. We have lost a great deal of the manufacturing capability we once had. The new designs are grossly overpriced or underperforming or both.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:29 PM (h2Bdk)

Have you noticed that Germany cannot built warships any more? Subs, yes; their limited surface ship building is a colossal clustergefickener.

Posted by: Cap'n Miklos, squinting a bit at May 08, 2018 07:32 PM (zCyNd)

503 Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 08, 2018 07:24 PM (p0Qbt)

In case you see this, you don't have to *play* a Blizzard game to use the chat, kids have used it while playing other games, so hopefully you wouldn't need space beyond the app itself.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 07:32 PM (rp9xB)

504 Ace's liver, you probably have more sources and information than I have, and plus I haven't been following it, but the omnibus bill's whole purpose was so that we can update the military.

Is that mission possible?

Posted by: booknlass at May 08, 2018 07:34 PM (uJ09Y)

505 Have you noticed that Germany cannot built warships any more? Subs, yes; their limited surface ship building is a colossal clustergefickener.
Posted by: Cap'n Miklos, squinting a bit at May 08, 2018 07:32 PM (zCyNd)


That's true, but they're not really putting any money into it either. I'll bet the Germans could do better than the Zumwalt with four billion dollars, six week vacations notwithstanding.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:35 PM (h2Bdk)

506 That's true, but they're not really putting any money into it either. I'll bet the Germans could do better than the Zumwalt with four billion dollars, six week vacations notwithstanding.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:35 PM (h2Bdk)

True, but so could the vocational students at the local high school.

Posted by: Cap'n Miklos, squinting a bit at May 08, 2018 07:36 PM (zCyNd)

507 We need Obama Legacy Commemorative Quarters. Celebrate the Stench.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 08, 2018 07:36 PM (RuIsu)

508 rickl, you're right, sadly.

But i've heard a young woman from Haiti hold forth about the evil that the Clintons did, to a small group of America college students bashing America. She changed their smiles to frowns pretty quickly.

Posted by: booknlass at May 08, 2018 07:36 PM (uJ09Y)

509 Polliwog, you have other computers, yeah? You're not without WoW in the interim?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 08, 2018 07:37 PM (y87Qq)

510 But i've heard a young woman from Haiti hold forth about the evil that the Clintons did, to a small group of America college students bashing America. She changed their smiles to frowns pretty quickly.

Posted by: booknlass at May 08, 2018 07:36 PM (uJ09Y)

I'll bet someone in Haiti is making a modest living from selling wax, pins, and photos of the Clintons.

Posted by: Tonton Macoute Miklos at May 08, 2018 07:39 PM (zCyNd)

511 496. You're too kind. But anyone can Slav - requires only the will to ask yourself, in the face of difficulty and hardship, 'How can I make this worse for myself and others? ' and then to implement the answer in the most slapdash manner possible.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 07:43 PM (fA1SL)

512 Posted by: hogmartin at May 08, 2018 07:37 PM (y87Qq)

I guess I *can* kick one of the kids off one of the other computers. I'm such a creature of habit that I hadn't thought about it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 07:43 PM (rp9xB)

513 504 Ace's liver, you probably have more sources and information than I have, and plus I haven't been following it, but the omnibus bill's whole purpose was so that we can update the military.

Is that mission possible?
Posted by: booknlass at May 08, 2018 07:34 PM (uJ09Y)


The problem is we don't have a commercial sector to rely on like we did through the '70s. We used to have a vibrant commercial shipbuilding industry, but that's pretty much (if not completely) gone. Shipbuilding moved to Japan, then Korea, and then to China.

Can we solve the problem by throwing enough money at it? Maybe. I don't see much evidence, though.

The F-35 worries me more, though, because we have the commercial base and somehow weren't able to leverage it.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:45 PM (h2Bdk)

514 I guess I *can* kick one of the kids off one of the other computers. I'm such a creature of habit that I hadn't thought about it.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 08, 2018 07:43 PM (rp9xB)


Of COURSE you can! Otherwise why even bother being the mommy?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 08, 2018 07:48 PM (y87Qq)

515 This is never not funny:

I've heard better grade school bands.

Posted by: DaveA at May 08, 2018 07:49 PM (FhXTo)

516 506 That's true, but they're not really putting any money into it either. I'll bet the Germans could do better than the Zumwalt with four billion dollars, six week vacations notwithstanding.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:35 PM (h2Bdk)

True, but so could the vocational students at the local high school.
Posted by: Cap'n Miklos, squinting a bit at May 08, 2018 07:36 PM (zCyNd)


Right now the German military is a place to park young people who can't get a job and make the unemployment statistics look better.

I think it's best for all if that's the way it stays.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:49 PM (h2Bdk)

517 How is that different from Americans staying out of Watts and South Chicago?
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Police, firetrucks, and ambulances go into those neighborhoods all the time. The USPS and other delivery services do too.
There are neighborhoods in Europe where NO outsider enters.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 08, 2018 07:52 PM (0jtPF)

518 I've heard better grade school bands.
Posted by: DaveA at May 08, 2018 07:49 PM (FhXTo)


There used to be a video that had that version of the anthem playing over the footage of the Kuznetsov but the guy who posted it committed suicide; shot himself in the head eight times in Izmaylovskiy Park.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 08, 2018 07:53 PM (y87Qq)

519 Right now the German military is a place to park young people who can't get a job and make the unemployment statistics look better.

I think it's best for all if that's the way it stays.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 08, 2018 07:49 PM (h2Bdk)

It was, when Germany still had mandatory military service. About 2/3 of young men opted for the civilian option-cheap labor for the State.

Posted by: Feldwebel Miklos at May 08, 2018 07:54 PM (zCyNd)

520 518. Understandable. He felt great shame for his actions, and - in a moment of clarity - did what he could to make amends.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 07:54 PM (fA1SL)

521 511 496. You're too kind. But anyone can Slav - requires only the will to ask yourself, in the face of difficulty and hardship, 'How can I make this worse for myself and others? ' and then to implement the answer in the most slapdash manner possible.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 07:43 PM (fA1SL)

I'm a mix of German, Black, and Native American. I was doomed from the Start.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 08, 2018 07:56 PM (2JsRn)

522 Izmaylovskiy


Heh

Posted by: White Star Line at May 08, 2018 07:57 PM (zCyNd)

523 I'm a mix of German, Black, and Native American. I was doomed from the Start.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 08, 2018 07:56 PM (2JsRn)


Sounds like you are 2/3 Lumbee.

Posted by: Miklos, from Lumbee country at May 08, 2018 07:59 PM (zCyNd)

524 521. Pfft! Plenty of Fritz blood in the SMR. Native American = Yakut and Buryat, also peoples of SMR. And Blacks? I give you Abram Petrovich Ganibal - godson of Peter the Great, friend & correspondent of Rousseau and Voltaire, and great grandfather of Pushkin.
Dude - you're in.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 08:00 PM (fA1SL)

525 Understandable. He felt great shame for his actions, and - in a moment of clarity - did what he could to make amends.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 07:54 PM (fA1SL)


Yes. The guy who actually did the mash-up of the video tied his suicide note to his ankle and threw it off Borodinsky Bridge. Sad, but he's at peace now.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 08, 2018 08:00 PM (y87Qq)

526 Gary Johnson is the host of The Toker's Mild.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 08, 2018 08:02 PM (wSC8T)

527 FUN FACT-

"Song of the Volga Boatmen" is actually an old Viking drinking song.

Posted by: Miklos, looking for "Rus" on a map at May 08, 2018 08:08 PM (zCyNd)

528 527
We don't talk about the Varangians in the Rus. Like others, they'd heard legends of the riches and glory of Slavistan, and attempted to find them for their benighted iceback people. Sad, really, what desperation drove them to. And Ivan is the source of the iceback name Jan. Same as Oleg became Alek. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 08, 2018 08:12 PM (fA1SL)

529 523 Sounds like you are 2/3 Lumbee.
Posted by: Miklos, from Lumbee country at May 08, 2018 07:59 PM (zCyNd)

That hurts, man.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 08, 2018 08:36 PM (2JsRn)

530 471:

"And Mexico has been doing a bang-up job building up an invasion force of tens of millions that is eating us up from the inside, as we speak. It's amazing that Mexico has been this shit for so long and has never had to answer for committing such continuing acts of war against us."

Rather than mucking around in Syria, the United States really, really needs to have tanks rolling down the streets of Mexico City until the flow of people and drugs stops.

Tear up the Iran deal? Hell yes.

Tear up NAFTA? Double hell yes.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 08, 2018 09:23 PM (YFLaF)

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