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After Eluding Detection for 40 Years, The "Golden State Killer" -- the Most Prolific Unsolved Serial Killer Case in America -- Is in Custody
The suspect in custody is an ex-cop who was fired some time ago for stealing a can of dog repellent.
Which is suspicious -- cops would have access to free dog repellent when they need it. All that they could want or need. Criminals trying to get by watch dogs would have to get it from other means. Two years ago there was an effort to bring together the detectives from all the various jurisidictions where crimes had been committed by the serial rapist and killer. That effort at heating up a cold case seems to have worked. He was (is) a serial rapist and serial killer, active from 1976 to 1986.Joseph James DeAngelo has been identified as the so-called Golden State Killer believed to have committed 12 killings and 48 rapes across California from 1976 to 1986, authorities said. The 72-year-old suspect is being held without bail in Sacramento on two murder counts. "The answer has always been in Sacramento," Sacramento District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert said. DeAngelo was arrested after police matched discarded DNA evidence from his Sacramento area home with genetic evidence from the crimes, Ventura County District Attorney Greg Totten said. The suspect has been charged with capital murder and other counts in connection with the 1980 slayings of Lyman and Charlene Smith, Totten said at a news conference outside the Sacramento crime lab where authorities matched DeAngelo to the crimes. ... Bell would not identify the suspect but authorities in Sacramento are expected to release more information at a news conference scheduled for noon PT (3 p.m. ET).The detectives and cops responsible for identifying the killer are giving a press conference, already in (deep) progress. So... Can we get a similar working group together to re-open the Zodiac cold case? How frightened is Ted Cruz right about now?
The suspect was also known as the "East Area Rapist" and "the Original Night Stalker."
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 03:46 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2018 03:46 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2018 03:46 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2018 03:48 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 03:48 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: gNewt at April 25, 2018 03:48 PM (Zc7fg)
Posted by: James Sheldon at April 25, 2018 03:49 PM (gLylO)
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 03:49 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 25, 2018 03:49 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: gNewt at April 25, 2018 03:49 PM (Zc7fg)
Posted by: Beverly DeAngelo at April 25, 2018 03:49 PM (JHwDP)
I long for the days when a cigar was just a cigar, but a good cigar was a Smoke!
Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2018 03:50 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 03:48 PM (/qEW2)
Turn your sets off. We have a winner...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 25, 2018 03:50 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: Golfman at April 25, 2018 03:50 PM (AebEV)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 03:48 PM (/qEW2)
Too early for a thread winner, Mr. Overachiever.
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 25, 2018 03:50 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Gumby at April 25, 2018 03:50 PM (2LelM)
Posted by: Publius Redux at April 25, 2018 03:50 PM (Fb9aZ)
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2018 03:51 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Beverly DeAngelo at April 25, 2018 03:49 PM
Yo Bev!
Whatcha doing after work?
Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2018 03:51 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: Carl Kolchak at April 25, 2018 03:51 PM (IqV8l)
They had to find a distraction from all their failed stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if Comey hadn't helped with the investigation.
Or Mueller.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 25, 2018 03:51 PM (GdWl+)
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 03:51 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Det. McGruff, Crime Dog at April 25, 2018 03:52 PM (Fb9aZ)
Posted by: Gumby at April 25, 2018 03:52 PM (2LelM)
Posted by: Neo at April 25, 2018 03:52 PM (Lf1Ga)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 25, 2018 03:52 PM (KUaJL)
And the SOB will probably get clemency for the advanced age he denied his victims the opportunity to reach.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 25, 2018 03:52 PM (P83tS)
Comey. In the curtains.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 03:53 PM (2ifxQ)
Posted by: Soona at April 25, 2018 03:53 PM (Fs5vw)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2018 03:53 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2018 03:53 PM (WFV7d)
Posted by: Mega at April 25, 2018 03:53 PM (5GZOc)
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 03:53 PM (zSVEm)
Comey. In the curtains.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 03:53 PM (2ifxQ)
With the discarded DNA.
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 25, 2018 03:54 PM (Dp6qK)
So... Can we get a similar working group together to re-open the Zodiac cold case?
How frightened is Ted Cruz right about now?
Oooh, another sick burn.
Teh Horde is en fuego this afternoon.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 25, 2018 03:54 PM (GdWl+)
i still remember the pic from her missing flyers.
same area.
Posted by: concrete girl at April 25, 2018 03:54 PM (zr8oO)
Hmm.
_________________
Too much fapping always leads to a bad end.
This is why his mama warned him about it . . . .
Posted by: Cops who searched his trash at April 25, 2018 03:54 PM (fqUgw)
Why would they be sniffing around his home in particular for DNA? Was he already suspected, and that caused them to want to get his DNA?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 03:54 PM (/qEW2)
... discarded DNA...
Hmm.
Posted by: Golfman at April 25, 2018 03:50 PM (AebEV)
I had the same reaction. Who got stuck with the Discarded DNA Wrangler gig?
Posted by: Muad'dib at April 25, 2018 03:55 PM (sjdRT)
Hmm.
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Too much fapping always leads to a bad end.
This is why his mama warned him about it . . . .
Posted by: Cops who searched his trash at April 25, 2018 03:54 PM (fqUgw)
The hairy palms were the dead giveaway.
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 25, 2018 03:55 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2018 03:55 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 25, 2018 03:55 PM (r+sAi)
Why would they be sniffing around his home in particular for DNA? Was he already suspected, and that caused them to want to get his DNA?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 03:54 PM (/qEW2)
So the evidence was found on Ventura Highway???
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 03:55 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Ted Cruz (R-Grassy Knoll) at April 25, 2018 03:55 PM (47uml)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 25, 2018 03:52 PM (P83tS)
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Seems fair to me!
Posted by: Bill Cosby at April 25, 2018 03:56 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at April 25, 2018 03:56 PM (uDcBt)
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 03:56 PM (47uml)
Tonya Harding.
Her career disappeared. Never to be found.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 03:56 PM (2ifxQ)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 03:56 PM (o7tuA)
...........
They called in Harry Bosch?
Posted by: wth at April 25, 2018 03:56 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 03:55 PM
...in the sunshine.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2018 03:56 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: NCKate at April 25, 2018 03:56 PM (4ExqX)
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 03:57 PM (47uml)
Is there anything it can't do?
Posted by: TexasJew at April 25, 2018 03:57 PM (uCQCw)
his Sacramento area home with genetic evidence from the crimes, Ventura
County District Attorney Greg Totten said.
.
.
.this is confusing.....did they just get the material to match or did they have it for 40 years and not think to match it?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 25, 2018 03:57 PM (+Dllb)
The killers DNA was matched from their discarded pieces of chicken dinner from the trash. Yes these vermin went into the restaurant at closing, ordered and ate dinner, then executed the staff in cold blood.
It took many years of waiting before they were able to match the DNA to the killers tho.
Posted by: Boots at April 25, 2018 03:57 PM (EBwPV)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 03:56 PM (o7tuA)
He said earlier he had to go. Something about cleaning up discarded DNA.
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 25, 2018 03:57 PM (Dp6qK)
Huh, they got him. Anybody seen Insomniac?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 03:56 PM (o7tuA)
Now that you mention it........
Posted by: Muad'dib at April 25, 2018 03:57 PM (sjdRT)
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We did, dude, and it was not fun at all!
Posted by: Cops who searched his trash at April 25, 2018 03:58 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: Jerksock at April 25, 2018 03:58 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: NCKate at April 25, 2018 03:56 PM (4ExqX)
Not so many anymore at REI.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2018 03:58 PM (WFV7d)
Is there anything it can't do?
Posted by: TexasJew at April 25, 2018 03:57 PM (uCQCw)
Not get me minority status for government perks...
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 03:58 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 03:58 PM (o7tuA)
...........
They called in Harry Bosch?
Posted by: wth
They seriously need more than 10 episodes a season.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 03:59 PM (2ifxQ)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 25, 2018 03:59 PM (r+sAi)
Mickey Kaus talked about it a lot. The idea as that as we get more information, faster, we forget old information faster too. What used to take a year to forget about now takes weeks.
Listening to this press conference, I remembered -- having forgotten -- that we just had a serial bomber in Austin a month ago.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 03:59 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at April 25, 2018 03:59 PM (47uml)
Posted by: Joseph James DeAngelo at April 25, 2018 04:00 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2018 04:00 PM (IqV8l)
yeah you'd think there'd already be an effort to get on this.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:00 PM (8rNrN)
It is called "I'll be gone in the dark".
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:00 PM (feFsi)
Does McGruffy Wuffy got to do a poo poo?
Posted by: Diogenes at April 25, 2018 03:53 PM (0tfLf)
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Not funny. I will have you know that I am a crime fighting professional, sir, and that I do not . . . OH! SQUIRREL!!!
Posted by: Det. McGruff, Crime Dog at April 25, 2018 04:01 PM (Fb9aZ)
Posted by: josephistan at April 25, 2018 04:01 PM (7HtZB)
Posted by: NCKate at April 25, 2018 04:01 PM (4ExqX)
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:01 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Dang at April 25, 2018 04:01 PM (8b+oT)
It is called "I'll be gone in the dark".
...
well, the publisher will be adding a very meaty new section to the book and re-issuing it, and making her heirs a fair amount of money.
is the book good, btw?
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:01 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Monk at April 25, 2018 04:01 PM (573j3)
It really is overwhelming, who can process it all?
Once upon a time, you had local newspapers, and local radio, and local TV news with a 30 min per day show of national news. Easier for the gatekeepers to control the average person's access to news.
Now it's non-stop, you can access what you want when you want it. Which really annoys the gatekeepers, hence they label everything they don't like as 'fake news'.
Posted by: Boots at April 25, 2018 04:02 PM (EBwPV)
You are right. You'd have to keep that stuff in a freezer.
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 04:02 PM (47uml)
.this is confusing.....did they just get the material to match or did they have it for 40 years and not think to match it?
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You have to have something to match the crime scene DNA against.
This guy had not been arrested, so his DNA was not in the system. And until fairly recently, you had to have pretty large, and pretty clean, DNA samples to do the tests. The advances in DNA science ("touch DNA", etc.) of the last few years have made it easier to test DNA against small, less-than-pure samples (like the kind of stuff you can get out of the trash).
Posted by: Cops who searched his trash at April 25, 2018 04:02 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: Gumby at April 25, 2018 04:02 PM (2LelM)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2018 04:02 PM (IqV8l)
information faster too. What used to take a year to forget about now
takes weeks."
Yep we are flooded with stimulus and as a result the brain...wait what?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 04:03 PM (o7tuA)
Posted by: @PeeteySDee at April 25, 2018 04:03 PM (mWtgZ)
aren't government employees routinely DNA sampled as a precondition of employment?
That might be a more recent thing. This guy might have gotten fired before that was required.
Maybe he got fired to avoid just this.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:03 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Mega at April 25, 2018 04:03 PM (5GZOc)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 04:03 PM (2ifxQ)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 25, 2018 03:59 PM (r+sAi)
Indeed it does. Right after the sentence that reads, "Joseph James DeAngelo has been identified as the so-called Golden State
Killer believed to have committed 12 killings and 48 rapes across
California from 1976 to 1986, authorities said."
But a good lawyer could, and should argue that the grandstanding by the cops and press will be prejudicial to him getting a fair trial.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2018 04:03 PM (WFV7d)
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Like everyone suspected John Wayne Gacy.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 25, 2018 04:03 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Gumby at April 25, 2018 04:04 PM (2LelM)
Posted by: dagny at April 25, 2018 04:04 PM (ahV/f)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 25, 2018 03:52 PM (KUaJL)
Some of the killings took place near the Russian River?
Posted by: josephistan at April 25, 2018 04:04 PM (7HtZB)
yeah you'd think there'd already be an effort to get on this.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:00 PM (8rNrN)
Only a handful of states require rape cases to be processed. The rest of the states let them sit. I was incensed when I found this out.
Someone has stepped forward to lead a change to that, the actress from L&O:SVU. She is working with some people in law enforcement or Congress to get this changed.
I tell ya people, if ya want something done, ya gotta step up and gather people and get it done. You would be surprised what you can accomplish.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (feFsi)
Posted by: Gumby at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (2LelM)
Posted by: Joe Biden at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (JHwDP)
Posted by: Roland THTG at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (xBSm0)
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (8rNrN)
So... Can we get a similar working group together to re-open the Zodiac cold case?
How frightened is Ted Cruz right about now?
Bwaha!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (o7tuA)
Posted by: Oschisms at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (hcNFP)
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Ya know, this cold case would have been solved a lot sooner if just one of those victims hac been armed and shot the SOB.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 25, 2018 04:06 PM (roQNm)
It's been an emotional day for Patton Oswalt, who learned early this morning that a suspect had been an arrested in the so-called "Golden State Killer" case, made famous by a best-selling book by his late wife, crime writer Michelle McNamara.
The book, "I'll Be Gone in the Dark," debuted at No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller list last month.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 25, 2018 04:06 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 04:07 PM (t8kZU)
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:07 PM (8rNrN)
$11.95 on Amazon.
Free shipping with Prime.
Posted by: Roland THTG at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (xBSm0)
If you are going to roll your own, be sure to include bleach.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 25, 2018 04:07 PM (Dp6qK)
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Ya know, this cold case would have been solved a lot sooner if just one of those victims hac been armed and shot the SOB.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse
Nothing like being caught in the act.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 04:07 PM (2ifxQ)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 25, 2018 04:07 PM (xfb67)
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Ya know, this cold case would have been solved a lot sooner if just one of those victims hac been armed and shot the SOB.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 25, 2018 04:06 PM (roQNm)
All the cop shows... the setup always shows the poor helpless victims to be... and I always say at the TV.... where's your gun, doofus?
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:07 PM (zSVEm)
I did not realize you needed a kit for rape.
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:01 PM (zSVEm)
You're baiting me to say something really inappropriate aren't you?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 04:07 PM (o7tuA)
Someone has stepped forward to lead a change to that, the actress from L&O:SVU. She is working with some people in law enforcement or Congress to get this changed.
I tell ya people, if ya want something done, ya gotta step up and gather people and get it done. You would be surprised what you can accomplish.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (feFsi)
P.S. if we wait on other people to do the "right" thing, it'll never happen. This rape case testing issue is one clear instance of nothing being done by police or govt. It's unbelievable, but true. Finally it has a champion/advocate. It shouldn't have come to this, but it has.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:08 PM (feFsi)
The moral of this story is that you can commit horrible crimes and get away with it for decades.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 25, 2018 04:07 PM (xfb67)
Whodathunkit?
Posted by: Hillary at April 25, 2018 04:08 PM (WFV7d)
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He quit being a cop in 1979.
Nobody was taking DNA from cops (or anybody else) back then.
Posted by: Cops who searched his trash at April 25, 2018 04:08 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 25, 2018 04:08 PM (4ErVI)
Someone has stepped forward to lead a change to that, the actress from L&O:SVU. She is working with some people in law enforcement or Congress to get this changed.
I tell ya people, if ya want something done, ya gotta step up and gather people and get it done. You would be surprised what you can accomplish.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (feFsi)
quoted for high truth quotient
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:08 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:07 PM (8rNrN)
This is a nice time to believe in the afterlife. Applies to Bill and Hillary as well.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 04:09 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Roland THTG at April 25, 2018 04:09 PM (xBSm0)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 25, 2018 04:09 PM (LWu6U)
CO started processing these DNA collections a few years ago, only a few people full time, but they have busted a few guys.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 25, 2018 04:09 PM (r+sAi)
I did not realize you needed a kit for rape.
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:01 PM (zSVEm)
You're baiting me to say something really inappropriate aren't you?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 04:07 PM (o7tuA)
Horde Baiting... much like bear baiting..
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:09 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 25, 2018 04:10 PM (2DYau)
people and get it done. You would be surprised what you can accomplish.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (feFsi)
Shoot, shovel, and shut up. *shifty eyes*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 04:10 PM (ptqGC)
Why would they be sniffing around his home in particular for DNA? Was he already suspected, and that caused them to want to get his DNA?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 03:54 PM (/qEW2)
So the evidence was found on Ventura Highway???
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 03:55 PM (zSVEm)
Sounds like it was an unsolved murder from when I was a child. A man and his wife were killed. The location is about a mile from where I live. Amateur sleuths had long thought it was the same guy.,
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 25, 2018 04:10 PM (M+Lyo)
119
CO started processing these DNA collections a few years ago, only a few people full time, but they have busted a few guys.
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I'd imagine if we could catalog our Dreamers DNA we could solve a lot more crimes.
Posted by: Gumby at April 25, 2018 04:10 PM (2LelM)
Posted by: Curtis at April 25, 2018 04:10 PM (AzW6q)
Is there anything it can't do?
Posted by: TexasJew at April 25, 2018 03:57 PM (uCQCw)
Can't get you out of paying child support for a child that is not yours.
Posted by: Monk at April 25, 2018 04:10 PM (573j3)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 04:07 PM (t8kZU)
Yes, I mentioned it earlier on the thread. She has passed away now, but the info I have is that her book was instrumental in generating renewed interest in this guy.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:11 PM (feFsi)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 04:11 PM (AM1GF)
20/20 hindsight review of most cases identify the common thread that was missed.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 04:11 PM (t8kZU)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2018 04:11 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: Archer at April 25, 2018 04:11 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Mega at April 25, 2018 04:11 PM (5GZOc)
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No shit. Perfect example of vagina privilege.
Posted by: Gumby at April 25, 2018 04:12 PM (2LelM)
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (8rNrN)
He was fired in 1979. DNA testing did not become a thing until mid 80s and probably not so common until much, much later.
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 25, 2018 04:12 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 03:59 PM (8rNrN)
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He only sent bombs to 2 or 3 locations. Not much of a bomber if you ask me. And that wig.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 04:12 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Asian Student at April 25, 2018 04:12 PM (aXkKa)
people and get it done. You would be surprised what you can accomplish.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:05 PM (feFsi)
Shoot, shovel, and shut up. *shifty eyes*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 04:10 PM (ptqGC)
Well, that's one approach.
*backs away from Jane*
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:12 PM (feFsi)
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 25, 2018 04:13 PM (2DYau)
Posted by: Gumby at April 25, 2018 04:13 PM (2LelM)
Posted by: buzzion at April 25, 2018 04:13 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2018 04:13 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 04:13 PM (aXkKa)
Posted by: Molding body of Jimmy Hoffa at April 25, 2018 04:13 PM (gbWkA)
Horde Baiting... much like bear baiting..
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:09 PM (zSVEm)
Lol, Right? If you hang here enough (God help you) you start to get a feel for what you can say (considering the attendees), then sit back and think. "oh, THIS is going to be good."
How many times have you seen on a thread "whoa boy, this is going to be good."
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 04:13 PM (o7tuA)
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If he's a Democrat, the FBI will make sure of it. The Comfy Chair.
Posted by: Mega at April 25, 2018 04:14 PM (5GZOc)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 04:14 PM (ptqGC)
People forget how relatively recent a lot of this stuff is.
Criminals in the 1970's were only worried about leaving their fingerprints, and in some cases their blood (which prosecutors sometimes had typed for sort-of matches, or at least exclusions) at their crime scenes.
Posted by: Cops who searched his trash at April 25, 2018 04:14 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: Gumby at April 25, 2018 04:12 PM (2LelM)
Only someone with dick for brains would say this.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:14 PM (feFsi)
I had the same thought, but I don't really know enough about serial killers to know whether or not that's unusual.
Posted by: even though I watched that Netflix show at April 25, 2018 04:15 PM (+INtM)
Posted by: NCKate at April 25, 2018 04:15 PM (4ExqX)
I had the same thought, but I don't really know enough about serial killers to know whether or not that's unusual.
Posted by: even though I watched that Netflix show at April 25, 2018 04:15 PM (+INtM)
Maybe a job at the DMV....
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:15 PM (zSVEm)
Is there anything it can't do?
Posted by: TexasJew at April 25, 2018 03:57 PM
Catch OJ
Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2018 04:13 PM (aC6Sd)
No, it caught OJ. The incompetence of the Los Angeles DA's office let him get away.
Posted by: buzzion at April 25, 2018 04:15 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:11 PM (feFsi)
People thought the killer worked in construction. I don't know how he would have found those neighborhoods in Goleta.
Those crimes scared me.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 25, 2018 04:15 PM (2DYau)
Posted by: buzzion at April 25, 2018 04:13 PM (lKs2v)
That's one of the freakier aspects of it.
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 25, 2018 04:15 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 04:16 PM (t8kZU)
http://zodiachoax.blogspot.com/
Posted by: jihadi at April 25, 2018 04:16 PM (blf2l)
Posted by: concrete girl at April 25, 2018 04:16 PM (zr8oO)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
535 of those are in DC alone...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 04:16 PM (AM1GF)
Brand new game is out on Steam. Battletech! Get to create a character...great! Choose background, name callsign, appearance....and pronoun? He, she, or they? And depending on which you choose, various pre-generated faces are generated to choose from. Ugh.
Intro story, ruler dies, young woman is heir apparent, but evil (white) uncle is trying to push her to become tyrant/dictator, which she refuses. She's on her way to coronation where she's going to fall victim to patriarchy. Fucking SJWs already tainting my game!
Posted by: Grimaldi at April 25, 2018 04:16 PM (VCUuG)
Posted by: NCKate at April 25, 2018 04:15 PM (4ExqX)
He should get it, I'm sorry Californa is crazy.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 25, 2018 04:16 PM (2DYau)
I had the same thought, but I don't really know enough about serial killers to know whether or not that's unusual.
Posted by: even though I watched that Netflix show at April 25, 2018 04:15 PM (+INtM)
Yeah tv shows are always that they keep on killing, either the same way or the begin "escalating."
Posted by: buzzion at April 25, 2018 04:17 PM (lKs2v)
I don't know. I've always just loved to kill. I really enjoyed it. But
then I got famous, and - it's just too hard for me. And so many
witnesses. I mean, *everybody* recognized me. I couldn't even lurk
anymore. I'd hear, "Who's that lurking over there? Isn't that Merv
Griffin?" So I came to Europe to kill. And it's really worked out very
well for me.
Posted by: Merv Griffin at April 25, 2018 04:17 PM (oVJmc)
Oh, it's gotta be like 8 : 1
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 04:17 PM (aXkKa)
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Got too old to attract victims.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 25, 2018 04:17 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 04:16 PM (t8kZU)
Having seen both places... well...
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:17 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at April 25, 2018 04:17 PM (mPeei)
I think a lot of these guys just stop as they get older, yeah.
Less anger, less sex drive, less testosterone, less confidence in their ability to subdue a victim or run away if necessary...
Serial killers are usually in their 20s and 30s.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:17 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: concrete girl at April 25, 2018 04:17 PM (zr8oO)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 04:17 PM (t8kZU)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 25, 2018 04:18 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:17 PM (8rNrN)
So...like, 29?
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 04:18 PM (aXkKa)
Posted by: NCKate at April 25, 2018 04:18 PM (4ExqX)
>>What's the percentage of serial killers being from either CA or FL?
Oh, it's gotta be like 8 : 1
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 04:17 PM (aXkKa)
Often mistaken for moles, supernumerary nipples are diagnosed in humans at a rate of approximately 1 in 18 people. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 04:18 PM (o7tuA)
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:01 PM (zSVEm)
Screwdriver
Duck tape
2 condoms
1 hammer
1 knife
And the book: 1001 Funny Rape Jokes
Posted by: Soona at April 25, 2018 04:19 PM (Fs5vw)
I'm hoping he'll offer elaboration on some of the arcane clues in the case, like the diagram he supposedly left near a crime scene.
Also, he supposedly called one of his victims years after the crime and there's a recording of it online if you look around. It's creepy as fuck. I'd like to know for sure if he did indeed place that call.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 25, 2018 04:19 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Under Fire at April 25, 2018 04:19 PM (r9UYA)
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Like everyone suspected John Wayne Gacy.
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I always suspected Hillary.
Posted by: Jerksock at April 25, 2018 04:19 PM (+y/Ru)
http://zodiachoax.blogspot.com/
...
nah, bruv. It is true that Zodiac himself took credit for crimes he didn't commit, but the police knew that. Newspaper might have played those up as zodiac crimes but there were five zodiac murders. Five dead victims and one survivor.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:19 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: 13times at April 25, 2018 04:20 PM (K3B2k)
There seems to have been a whole lot active in San Francisco & points north. More than a fair share.
Posted by: josephistan at April 25, 2018 04:20 PM (7HtZB)
I had the same thought, but I don't really know enough about serial killers to know whether or not that's unusual.
______________________
They're like anybody else. They get older, slower, less agile, and they lose testosterone as they age, so they are less interested in sex, and less interested in taking the risks they need to take in order to rape and kill.
Posted by: Cops who searched his trash at April 25, 2018 04:20 PM (fqUgw)
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If you assume the guy was doing it for the adrenaline rush, you might conclude that it was too easy, and he got bored with it.
When did the drug war turn violent? He might have found a new career as enforcer for one on the drug gangs.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 25, 2018 04:20 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: Grimaldi at April 25, 2018 04:20 PM (VCUuG)
Posted by: NCKate
If they wouldn't whack Manson, they ain't whacking anyone else.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 04:20 PM (2ifxQ)
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:20 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Monk at April 25, 2018 04:21 PM (573j3)
Everyone always forgets how far a good rape joke goes as an icebreaker when meeting new people.
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 04:21 PM (aXkKa)
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:17 PM (8rNrN)
So...like, 29?
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 04:18 PM (aXkKa)
*jaw drop*
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 25, 2018 04:21 PM (Dp6qK)
I think a lot of these guys just stop as they get older, yeah.
Less anger, less sex drive, less testosterone, less confidence in their ability to subdue a victim or run away if necessary...
Serial killers are usually in their 20s and 30s.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:17 PM (8rNrN)
Don't they get their man boost from those fake pills the big hurt sells? He should be still serialing away at full skin suit ahead if those pills were any good.
Posted by: Archer at April 25, 2018 04:21 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 04:21 PM (o7tuA)
there's some 1930s era mob killer who moonlit as a serial killer.
Now you may think "He already WAS a serial killer, he was a hit man," but I mean, no, in addition to all the people he killed because he was paid to, he ALSO went out stalking random victims for the sexual/murderous thrill of it.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:22 PM (8rNrN)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdElYnd-xMo
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 25, 2018 04:22 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: SandyCheeks at April 25, 2018 04:22 PM (ihzOe)
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:22 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 04:14 PM (ptqGC)
Yikes! Well, you can just rock me to sleep tonight.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 25, 2018 04:22 PM (MX7xj)
Posted by: O J at April 25, 2018 04:23 PM (r+sAi)
Costs the CA taxpayer hundreds of millions of dollars every year to house them.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 25, 2018 04:23 PM (r9UYA)
Oh, the original 'Mechanic' was Charles Bronson.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 25, 2018 04:23 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:23 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Monk at April 25, 2018 04:24 PM (573j3)
And you can milk just about anything with nipples.
Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 25, 2018 04:24 PM (2wOtx)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 04:14 PM (ptqGC)
Yikes! Well, you can just rock me to sleep tonight.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 25, 2018 04:22 PM (MX7xj)
But, you know, we need more gun control.
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:25 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Nick Stokes at April 25, 2018 04:25 PM (r9UYA)
Oh, the original 'Mechanic' was Charles Bronson.
...
yeah but I think it was rebooted with Jason Statham in the aughts. this is a sequel to that reboot, not the original.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:25 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 04:25 PM (o7tuA)
Posted by: DaveA at April 25, 2018 04:25 PM (FhXTo)
What's the percentage of serial killers being from either CA or FL?
Dean Corll one of the most brutal and prolific operated in Houston. Claimed 28 in three years until he was shot and killed by his accomplice.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 25, 2018 04:25 PM (lKyWE)
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If you assume the guy was doing it for the adrenaline rush, you might conclude that it was too easy, and he got bored with it.
_____________________
Or maybe he just realized that it was getting more likely that he'd get caught.
He quit killing and raping in the 1980's -- around the same time that DNA testing started.
Maybe he realized that he'd gotten away with shit in the 1970's that he wasn't going to be able to get away with so easily as DNA (and other crime-scene science) advanced.
Posted by: Cops who searched his trash at April 25, 2018 04:26 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: 13times at April 25, 2018 04:26 PM (K3B2k)
Who will taint our lettuce!?
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 04:26 PM (aXkKa)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 04:26 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 04:26 PM (+3KlA)
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:26 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:26 PM (feFsi)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 04:26 PM (o7tuA)
in addition to the possibility of adropause I already mentioned, sometimes guys just stop because they get married and so don't have the time alone to hunt any longer.
Sometimes they get incarcerated, too, of course, but no one mentioned that this guy had been in prison.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:27 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 25, 2018 04:27 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:27 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 03:48 PM (/qEW2)
C'mon, he's building his autobahn.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 04:27 PM (+3KlA)
Posted by: DaveA at April 25, 2018 04:25 PM (FhXTo)
Speculation was he went to jail for something, died, or got too old to carry out the crimes.
The last one seemed most likely because he did a lot of running, jumping, and creeping around like a psycho asshole.
He's talking to the cops so hopefully we find out.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 25, 2018 04:27 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 25, 2018 04:24 PM
I'm the milker, not the milkee.
Posted by: The Red Macaw at April 25, 2018 04:27 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 04:28 PM (o7tuA)
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:26 PM (sX1BW)
Heh... "when minutes count, the police will be there, later"..
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:28 PM (zSVEm)
yes,
I did it again.
Movie stars all look alike to me.
Actually, it is just the name I can't put with the face,
if I remember the face.
Usually it is just ,"Hey, I know that guy from somewhere."
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 25, 2018 04:28 PM (roQNm)
Texas has had a few. Some by way of FL.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 04:28 PM (t8kZU)
Posted by: Shep! at April 25, 2018 04:28 PM (sjdRT)
Costs the CA taxpayer hundreds of millions of dollars every year to house them.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 25, 2018 04:23 PM (r9UYA)
............
Yeah, we should be spending that money on something else, like High Speed Rail.
Posted by: wth at April 25, 2018 04:29 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 25, 2018 04:24 PM
Yeppers
Posted by: Luke Skywalker at April 25, 2018 04:29 PM (suO/a)
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:29 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: DaveA at April 25, 2018 04:25 PM (FhXTo)
Speculation was he went to jail for something, died, or got too old to carry out the crimes.
The last one seemed most likely because he did a lot of running, jumping, and creeping around like a psycho asshole.
He's talking to the cops so hopefully we find out.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis
Ho hot bored and lost interest.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 04:29 PM (pQplJ)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 25, 2018 04:29 PM (ABuva)
Posted by: dagny at April 25, 2018 04:29 PM (ahV/f)
agreed, my favorite "true crime" film.
However, if you google sites about the Zodiac, you'll be convinced the film's "solution" is pure total uncut Columbian bullshit, kinda taking this out of the "True Crime" category and tainting it.
Still, great, great film. Feels real as hell, especially the way important characters (like Anthony Edwards' character) just drop away, because that happens in real life.
also great cars and clothes.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:29 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Under Fire at April 25, 2018 04:29 PM (r9UYA)
Maybe he moved to the south side of Chicago and started committing black on black gun crimes.
Posted by: cornbred at April 25, 2018 04:29 PM (AncY4)
Posted by: Norman at April 25, 2018 04:30 PM (djCea)
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*spritzes Sandra Fluke, who runs away*
Hey, this stuff works pretty well!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 25, 2018 04:30 PM (7Cr6v)
Posted by: Tanner Boyle
And some things without.
Posted by: Almonds
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 04:30 PM (pQplJ)
Posted by: SandyCheeks at April 25, 2018 04:22 PM (ihzOe)
Sorry, no.
First, it won't do any good.
Second, on-line petitions like this are a perfect example of self-deceit, wherein you can do literally nothing, but preen and pretend that you "made a difference".
Posted by: Hillary at April 25, 2018 04:30 PM (WFV7d)
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:30 PM (sX1BW)
.........
Oh yes, we punish you for getting too much capital.
Posted by: wth at April 25, 2018 04:30 PM (HgMAr)
Yeah, how come there aren't more from Rhode Island? Or Wyoming?
It's a mystery.
Maybe John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, the Green River Killer, the Boston Strangler, Wayne Williams, and Ed Gein can put their heads together and figure it out.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 04:31 PM (+3KlA)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2018 04:31 PM (WFV7d)
Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2018 04:31 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Not Woke atall at April 25, 2018 04:31 PM (roQNm)
Prosecutors had everything they needed and eventually decided not to prosecute. Anybody. Knew all the people at the house, all their stories all mixed up, all the physical evidence.
My SIL's slide back into alcoholism post-event did probably not help her case, but there are gangs of sick, sick people out there. This was a bunch of 30 and 40 year olds clearly working together. Seems like she was a mark brought in by this 'friend'.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 25, 2018 04:31 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 25, 2018 04:25 PM (o7tuA)
Vhy you bad mouth out lettuce? Romanian Lettuce Growers Assn. Bucharest
Posted by: Archer at April 25, 2018 04:31 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 04:31 PM (t8kZU)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 25, 2018 04:31 PM (3dsTO)
Posted by: Hillary the urban legend at April 25, 2018 04:31 PM (573j3)
Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 25, 2018 04:32 PM (2wOtx)
Posted by: 13times at April 25, 2018 04:26 PM (K3B2k)
Still are. And I still say Camera Hogg has school-shooter (or serial killer) written all over him.
Posted by: Soona at April 25, 2018 04:32 PM (Fs5vw)
Posted by: A Nutria at April 25, 2018 04:33 PM (7Cr6v)
Dean Corll one of the most brutal and prolific operated in Houston. Claimed 28 in three years until he was shot and killed by his accomplice.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic
Shot and killed, Texas style
Posted by: Jean at April 25, 2018 04:33 PM (MS0+a)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 25, 2018 04:33 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2018 04:31 PM (NWiLs)
Wow. And it is also number one in population!
What an incredible coincidence!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 25, 2018 04:33 PM (wYseH)
Which makes me realize the reason the Left outlaws so much of reality as being "politically incorrect". They want to make it so that literally the only stories one can safely tell are the ones that THEY have made up.
Posted by: Mega at April 25, 2018 04:33 PM (5GZOc)
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2018 04:33 PM (LiyEm)
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Squirting is one of the top categories at certain sites.
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:33 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Soona
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I see him as a promoter of hoax 'Hate crimes'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 25, 2018 04:34 PM (7Cr6v)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 04:31 PM (+3KlA)
Green River was born in Utah, Dennis Rader (BTK) was born in Kansas, Ted Bundy was born in Vermont...
Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2018 04:34 PM (NWiLs)
Good Lord. What a horrible story. I hope she can get help (if that's even possible).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 04:34 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:34 PM (8rNrN)
the article is not clear.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 25, 2018 04:34 PM (+Dllb)
Posted by: DaveA at April 25, 2018 04:34 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 04:20 PM (2ifxQ)
Tookie Williams was unable for comment.
(Actually IIRC Manson was sentenced to death, but then the death penalty was overturned by the Supremes for some bullshit reason, and a new death penalty statute had to be enacted. But of course, Manson hadn't been convicted under the new one.)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 04:34 PM (+3KlA)
I'm so sorry for your SIL. Those are evil people. Thank god I was doing the bar scene before all this crap. Sick bastards. I hope she is doing better.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:35 PM (feFsi)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 25, 2018 04:35 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 04:31 PM (+3KlA)
Ted Bundy, the Green River KIller, Yates and John Mohammed (trunk of the car shooter) came from the Seattle area.
Posted by: LASue at April 25, 2018 04:35 PM (Z48ZB)
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:29 PM (sX1BW)
Some crimes really do deserve Drawing and Quartering.
Posted by: X-ray at April 25, 2018 04:35 PM (Rrifi)
Posted by: Soona
Can see that. Once his fame ends and he is discarded like Ace's mohair jerksock.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 04:35 PM (pQplJ)
Wig?
Posted by: Under Fire at April 25, 2018 04:35 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Soona
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I see him as a promoter of hoax 'Hate crimes'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 25, 2018 04:34 PM (7Cr6v)
Hmm. I wonder if all the Hogg families, and their neighbors, pets are accounted for.....
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:35 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:29 PM (sX1BW)
Some crimes really do deserve Drawing and Quartering.
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I'd just like to go back to public hangings.
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:36 PM (sX1BW)
the article is not clear.
...
i'm not clear either but they did re-convene the old detectives and da's to do a cold case reunion/reinvestigation. I heard some guy talking about having eliminated compass points and deciding to start searching to the east, i think of one crime scene, maybe.
not sure how you'd get a warrant on something so thin.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:36 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 04:36 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Soona at April 25, 2018 04:32 PM (Fs5vw)
I can't say I can see people lining up to say they were shocked if he was.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 25, 2018 04:36 PM (Dp6qK)
Why you being a dick? It was a question not a statement.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 04:37 PM (t8kZU)
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2018 04:37 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: Tanner Boyle
And some things without.
Posted by: Almonds
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 04:30 PM (pQplJ)
Don't milk the bull
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 25, 2018 04:37 PM (M+Lyo)
Why you being a dick?
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Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:37 PM (sX1BW)
Bongino again. He played the Judge Nap audio from last weekend.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 25, 2018 04:38 PM (K2hsm)
Posted by: LASue at April 25, 2018 04:35 PM (Z48ZB)
But what if they all identified as being from California?
Then add them to the list!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 04:38 PM (+3KlA)
That constant rain caused excess mildew growth in their brains.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 25, 2018 04:38 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:36 PM (sX1BW)
Please show a modicum of respect for the condemned: no loud farting during the main event.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 25, 2018 04:38 PM (WFV7d)
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 25, 2018 04:39 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at April 25, 2018 04:39 PM (CoKlX)
There was a white panel van in the parking lot, the only other vehicle other than their van. They passed a lone guy going up the trail, who didn't speak when they greeted him, and averted his eyes. They also passed a young woman hiking up the trail and she smiled and spoke to them.
The next day they returned to the parking lot and the white van was gone. Turns out the weird guy kidnapped the young woman they passed, and she was later found raped and killed in the van (he was caught driving the van somehow). He had even stopped for fast food while she was apparently still alive in the van.
Not a hot enough place in hell for that bastard.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 04:39 PM (ptqGC)
That constant rain caused excess mildew growth in their brains.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 25, 2018 04:38 PM (ppaKI)
Cordyceps brain infection.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2018 04:39 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 04:34 PM (ptqGC)
...
It's hard to grapple with. She's far away from us, and is frequently too drunk on the phone for my wife to really make sense of what she's saying.
It's not good, as you can imagine. Husband even not sure who to believe at first, though I think he's come around.
The Lord says vengeance is His; I would not trade places with her attackers for anything.
The question in my mind is how much of this goes on, because it was never in the press (she didn't want it) and after a year, no charges even.
So the larger public would never even know how often this happens.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 25, 2018 04:39 PM (yL25O)
the article is not clear.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
Patton Oswalt's recently deceased wife wrote a crime novel. Patton & a friend recently had it published. It generated renewed interest.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 04:39 PM (pQplJ)
Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2018 04:40 PM (MVjcR)
Las Vegas shooter was bald too. Coincidence? I think not.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 25, 2018 04:40 PM (r9UYA)
Bundy was a brutal sadist, horrible
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 25, 2018 04:39 PM (M+Lyo)
Could have been worse. He could have been a shoe salesman with low sex drive.
Posted by: Peg Bundy at April 25, 2018 04:40 PM (WFV7d)
Why you being a dick? It was a question not a statement.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 04:37 PM (t8kZU)
Sorry, I wasn't in the mood to put up with such a silly assertion. As CBD pointed out, it's hardly surprising that the most populous state had the most serial killers, besides which there are LOTS of serial killers from places other than CA and FL. I just listed a few off the top of my head.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 04:40 PM (+3KlA)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2018 04:40 PM (9chmE)
Posted by: Monk at April 25, 2018 04:41 PM (573j3)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at April 25, 2018 04:41 PM (CoKlX)
Posted by: Dr. Weevil at April 25, 2018 04:41 PM (yPnLb)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 04:41 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2018 04:41 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Gil Grissom at April 25, 2018 04:42 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: An Inquiring Mind Wants To Know at April 25, 2018 04:42 PM (EATOD)
Posted by: Nipsy Russell at April 25, 2018 04:42 PM (JHwDP)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Canadians are always polite.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 25, 2018 04:42 PM (7Cr6v)
Still being a dick. I'm done with you.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 04:43 PM (t8kZU)
The real depth of his depravity came out years after he died in the chair.
He was a necrophile who returned time and again to his body dump sites to have sex with their rotting corpses. He also kept some of their heads.
So as bad as we thought it was, it turned out to be far worse.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 25, 2018 04:43 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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And the cops are all Comey on the spot.
Posted by: gNewt at April 25, 2018 04:43 PM (Zc7fg)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 04:41 PM (39g3+)
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Was it here at the HQ that i read the article about a retired statistician who finds serial killers looking at police data?
Posted by: TexasDan at April 25, 2018 04:44 PM (yL25O)
killers. Most of the numbers I've found are number of victims of serial
killers. On a per capita basis, Alaska is in the number one slot. In
terms of raw numbers, California appears to be number one.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2018 04:31 PM (NWiLs)
All the data... yes, virtually all of it, must be taken with a grain of salt. There are serial killers about whom nobody knows anything, and there are a variety of reasons that is true. One of which is the very problem that seems to have been part of this case: multiple jurisdictions.
When a hooker is strangled and tossed to the side of a road, and it happens in close proximity, several times, everybody knows there's a serial killer on the loose.
What happens when a killer goes from state to state to state? Generally, nobody even knows they exist.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2018 04:44 PM (9chmE)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 04:44 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2018 04:45 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2018 04:45 PM (NWiLs)
Hard to believe a go-getter like that couldn't find Whitey Bulger, isn't it?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 25, 2018 04:45 PM (oVJmc)
I'm a believer of a fairly strong connection between weather and psychology.
Russians and Irish aren't alcoholics coincidentally, and the Finns aren't the suicide kings for no reason.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:45 PM (8rNrN)
Well, I mean its a job, these guys aren't Batman, they aren't all wound tight crazed with justice. They go through the procedure, write up the paperwork, clock out and go home.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 04:46 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: BurtTC
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Wasn't one of them an over-the-road trucker?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 25, 2018 04:46 PM (7Cr6v)
Was it here at the HQ that i read the article about a retired statistician who finds serial killers looking at police data?
man I'd like to read that. I have no recollection of it. A coblogger might have posted it.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:46 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Slappy White at April 25, 2018 04:46 PM (Zc7fg)
I later lived in an annex on that same alley at about the spot where she probably was snatched. Creepy.
Posted by: LASue at April 25, 2018 04:46 PM (Z48ZB)
Posted by: Where's Dexter When We Need Him? at April 25, 2018 04:46 PM (EATOD)
Posted by: X-ray at April 25, 2018 04:46 PM (Rrifi)
I think that explains a lot about the equator effect, where just about everywhere near the equator around the world just gets nothing accomplished and has no real progress. When the zenith of your civilization is a pyramid you hacked hundreds of heads off in...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (39g3+)
The real depth of his depravity came out years after he died in the chair.
He was a necrophile who returned time and again to his body dump sites to have sex with their rotting corpses. He also kept some of their heads.
So as bad as we thought it was, it turned out to be far worse.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 25, 2018 04:43 PM (4ErVI)
O_O
I did not know any of this necrophiliac stuff. And their heads. Omg. Yea, that is even more twisted than what I knew.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (feFsi)
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The article is unclear but what I suspect is that they already had the killer's DNA then had some reason short of the probable cause they'd need for a warrant to suspect this guy so they watched him and collected something he discarded, cigarette butt, beer can, whatever, that had his DNA and matched that.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Under Fire at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (r9UYA)
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There is merit in the association - though I'm not sure the weather is the primary reason for those two countries. Need to ponder some more.
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (sX1BW)
Remember, men, always flush that "evidence."
Posted by: mindful webworker - what do I know? at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (gECZB)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (mwi7D)
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You don't need a warrant to search somebody's trash once they've put it out on the curb.
You get the DNA from the trash, match it to the crime scene DNA, and then you've got enough to get a warrant to search the suspect's house.
Posted by: Cops who searched his trash at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2018 04:45 PM (LiyEm)
I guess the upshot is all of us need to do our very best to protect ourselves, and ours, as much as we can.... it can't always work, of course... but we need to be streetwise.
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: TexasDan at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 25, 2018 04:43 PM (t8kZU)
Are you new around here?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 25, 2018 04:48 PM (wYseH)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 04:44 PM (39g3+)
I do think there's something to the idea that people didn't care as much because his victims were almost exclusively prostitutes. They're marginal people living a very risky lifestyle and they're also easy targets for murderers. They often aren't even reported missing because they don't have a lot of contact with family or other people who would turn in a missing persons report.
The Yorkshire Ripper in England preyed on prostitutes as well and got away with it for years. Then he killed a young woman who wasn't a prostitute and I think that led to more pressure that eventually resulted in his arrest.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 25, 2018 04:48 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: An Inquiring Mind Wants To Know
yes, I am. I am seriously accusing Ted Cruz of having been the Zodiac killer when he was between 4 and 9 years old.
Either that, or I'm riffing on an old internet joke, a joke Ted Cruz himself has played along with by posting references to the zodiac.
but no, I think it's the first one -- you've done found me out, Intrepid Media Matters Intern and/or lunatic Never Trumper Twitter Addict.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:48 PM (8rNrN)
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There is merit in the association - though I'm not sure the weather is the primary reason for those two countries. Need to ponder some more.
Posted by: SH
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Finland
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 25, 2018 04:49 PM (7Cr6v)
Remember that Mexican serial killer that was hopping trains across the country? He killed dozens of people.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 25, 2018 04:49 PM (r9UYA)
sunlight, man.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 04:49 PM (8rNrN)
I think its more they just do the job with some cases and some are so high profile and high pressure they do extra work and try extra hard to solve. So: your car stereo stolen from your truck? OK we'll write it down. Someone steals Bill Gates' jewel-encrusted toilet brush? Stop everything and solve this.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 04:50 PM (39g3+)
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This mentality is often the cause for high crime areas in certain big cities - its when the crime gets to the white collar section or the visitor section that it becomes an issue. See Chicago.
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:50 PM (sX1BW)
Note to self: after killings, burn garbage on site, do not put in bins.
Posted by: West at April 25, 2018 04:50 PM (7Fa8Y)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 25, 2018 04:50 PM (7Cr6v)
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Is this an actual fact?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 25, 2018 04:51 PM (7uYFy)
"AH HA! Discovered you!!!!"
--Jake Tapper
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 04:51 PM (39g3+)
Henry Lee Lucas probably takes the crown for that racket.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 25, 2018 04:51 PM (ppaKI)
But yeah, nothing to see her folks, just move on.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 25, 2018 04:51 PM (fqUgw)
sunlight, man.
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Isn't English weather the same as Irish?
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:51 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (+y/Ru)
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Thanks. That makes more sense! The other way would make the most boring cop show ever.
Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2018 04:51 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 04:51 PM (mwi7D)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 25, 2018 04:50 PM (7Cr6v)
Obama's short-story writer?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 25, 2018 04:51 PM (7uYFy)
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I mentioned this before, but now that we have "incels" going on killing rampages, we should definitely be worried about Hogg.
And for good measure, someone should reveal Allahpundit's identity. He could be a danger to us all...
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 25, 2018 04:52 PM (AzW6q)
Posted by: the Butcher at April 25, 2018 04:52 PM (DIosY)
Mueller has been listening to Trump's conversations with Cohen for the last 3 months.
Tapping the phone of the attorney for the President of the United States??
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 25, 2018 04:52 PM (ptqGC)
(After writing down the missing items)
Cop:Okay Mr.Seinfeld,uh,we'll look around and let you know if we find anything.
Jerry
o you ever find anything?
Cop:No.
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2018 04:52 PM (LiyEm)
Disagree about people not caring about murdered prostitutes. Dang, did I catch some heat for that.
Posted by: Yours Truly Jack the Ripper at April 25, 2018 04:52 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 04:52 PM (39g3+)
1976-86, then he started when he was right around 30 and stopped right
around his 40th birthday. It almost looks like some avid soccer player
who turns 40 and says to himself "Man, I love to play soccer, but I'm
getting too old for this! Too many aches and pains, too much chance of
injury, time to hang up my athletic shoes and settle down!" Which is
kind of sick when you apply it to raping and killing, but maybe that's
how it works. Not being a psycho, I wouldn't know.
Posted by: Dr. Weevil at April 25, 2018 04:41 PM (yPnLb)
Yep. That's pretty much true. The correlation on the graph would be pretty even, between age, testosterone levels, and rape/murders. There are exceptions of course, but diagnosed Antisocial Personality Disorder folks, this is fairly consistent.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2018 04:53 PM (9chmE)
Posted by: Don't Know Much About Ted Cruz Memes at April 25, 2018 04:53 PM (EATOD)
sure the weather is the primary reason for those two countries. Need to
ponder some more.
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (sX1BW)
Potatoes!
Posted by: X-ray at April 25, 2018 04:53 PM (Rrifi)
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Hasn't that day already arrived?
It's not the DNA specifically, its the people administering the test. But I guess it could also be the DNA.
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:54 PM (sX1BW)
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The "science" around hair matches was all bullshit too.
And quite a few innocent people went to prison because of it.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 25, 2018 04:54 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: The Honorable John-Boy Roberts at April 25, 2018 04:54 PM (knDqF)
Posted by: Dang at April 25, 2018 04:54 PM (8b+oT)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 04:54 PM (mwi7D)
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Henry Lee Lucas probably takes the crown for that racket.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 25, 2018 04:51 PM (ppaKI)
Yes, and Henry was also a serial liar, so there's no clear way to differentiate between his real kills, and when he was just messing with law enforcement.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2018 04:54 PM (9chmE)
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at April 25, 2018 04:55 PM (knDqF)
Posted by: Yours Truly Jack the Ripper at April 25, 2018 04:55 PM (8rNrN)
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The "science" around hair matches was all bullshit too.
And quite a few innocent people went to prison because of it.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 25, 2018 04:54 PM (fqUgw)
It is science, and because it is science, it must be falsifiable, and must be challenged that way... unlike Global Warming, a story for another day...
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:56 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 25, 2018 04:56 PM (MX7xj)
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:56 PM (sX1BW)
Ireland, like Scotland, is gloomy.
Posted by: Yours Truly Jack the Ripper at April 25, 2018 04:57 PM (8rNrN)
Anyhow, it had something to do with DNA.
Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2018 04:57 PM (MVjcR)
More FISA orders were denied during President Donald Trump's first year in office than in the court's history: https://www.zdnet.com/article/fisa-court-denied-record-surveillance-orders-trump-first-year/
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 25, 2018 04:57 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: Archer at April 25, 2018 04:58 PM (gbWkA)
Anyhow, it had something to do with DNA.
Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2018 04:57 PM (MVjcR)
Gee, that could be written by Al Gore...
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 04:58 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 25, 2018 04:58 PM (yTnCT)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 04:58 PM (mwi7D)
think it was the boyfriend of the "last" victim (according to experts),
Mary Kelly. I think he kept killing after he killed her, however.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 25, 2018 04:56 PM (MX7xj)
Are there more Jack the Ripper theories, or more Kennedy assassination theories?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 25, 2018 04:58 PM (9chmE)
Posted by: harry reid's cockatoo at April 25, 2018 04:59 PM (VBKy9)
Posted by: Dang at April 25, 2018 04:54 PM (8b+oT)
He did re-marry and so his daughter and the new wife have made things easier now. But yea, he fell apart after losing his wife.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 04:59 PM (feFsi)
certain as we think it is now, like how they discovered that everything
everyone knew about accelerants and arson was hooey.
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Footprints. Louise Robbins.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 25, 2018 04:59 PM (MIKMs)
but it's also harder to solve a prostitute's murder. When a non-prostitute gets murdred by a stranger, you look for the sketchy people that woman might have encountered in the weeks before her death.
Probably there are no more than 3-4.
What's that number with a prostitute? She meets 8-10 sketchy, dangerous people per night.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 05:00 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 05:00 PM (mwi7D)
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Jack the Ripper. John F. "Jack" Kennedy. Jackie Kennedy. Ted Riptide Kennedy.
They all connect.
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 05:00 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 05:00 PM (pQplJ)
Discovery did a whole season on it. Had a computer etc work on the code. They broke most of the code too!
Even got a name at the end of it all!!
"Richard Nixon"!! Wow, I don't know who this guy is/was, but he sure sounds ominous!!
Posted by: Jarvis W. Deplorable at April 25, 2018 05:00 PM (3SBUJ)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April
yep. skepticism should be the default onall of this stuff.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 25, 2018 05:00 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 25, 2018 05:01 PM (VBKy9)
More ripper theories, I would say. With Kennedy, there's only about three big ones (The Mob/The Cubans/The Military Industrial Complex).
With the Ripper, well. Lots.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 05:01 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at April 25, 2018 05:01 PM (2NqXo)
Is it Ireland that has the hairy cows? Or it maybe is Scotland.
Posted by: X-ray at April 25, 2018 05:01 PM (Rrifi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 05:01 PM (mwi7D)
Posted by: Monk at April 25, 2018 05:01 PM (573j3)
but it's also harder to solve a prostitute's murder. When a non-prostitute gets murdred by a stranger, you look for the sketchy people that woman might have encountered in the weeks before her death.
Probably there are no more than 3-4.
What's that number with a prostitute? She meets 8-10 sketchy, dangerous people per night.
Posted by: ace at April
perfectly non-sketchy people frequent prostitutes.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 25, 2018 05:02 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 04:58 PM (mwi7D)
That is such a travesty. All the work put in by so many people, washed right down the drain. As an employee that has to be devastating, not to mention the victims. I hate stories of these guys that do this stuff. Above the law syndrome...seems to be everywhere in govt.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:02 PM (feFsi)
Anyhow, it had something to do with DNA.
Posted by: Weasel
Chimeras--basically in the womb they absorb a fetus that would have been their fraternal twin, so only one gets born, but both DNA patterns are there...so depending how you get your sample, one person can get two different sequences. Rare, but it happens.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 05:02 PM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 25, 2018 05:03 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Dang at April 25, 2018 04:54 PM (8b+oT)
Maybe he should have stopped his wife from overdosing.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 25, 2018 05:03 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 05:03 PM (pQplJ)
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 25, 2018 03:50 PM (Dp6qK)
ha
Posted by: m at April 25, 2018 05:03 PM (ecMDh)
Posted by: SH
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Irish Spring smells better.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 25, 2018 05:00 PM
Jade East for the win.
Posted by: J. Random Commenter at April 25, 2018 05:03 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 05:01 PM (8rNrN)
I've certainly read a truckload of them. I also believe he came to New York afterwards and killed a few there, too. There's also a theory that he started killing in Austin, Texas before the Whitechapel murders.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 25, 2018 05:03 PM (MX7xj)
397 I seem to recall some science show recently where they found people with the exact same DNA. Or maybe it was no DNA. Or they weren't related to their biological parents by DNA. Or something.
Anyhow, it had something to do with DNA.
Posted by: Weasel
Chimeras--basically in the womb they absorb a fetus that would have been their fraternal twin, so only one gets born, but both DNA patterns are there...so depending how you get your sample, one person can get two different sequences. Rare, but it happens.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at April 25, 2018 05:02 PM (AM1GF)
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That's it! Double DNA!
Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2018 05:04 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: zombie jack the ripper at April 25, 2018 05:04 PM (VBKy9)
Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 25, 2018 05:04 PM (2wOtx)
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April
sue it is a travesty but it is the proper outcome. if someone is inventing evidence the case should be thrown out.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 25, 2018 05:04 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 25, 2018 05:04 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 05:04 PM (mwi7D)
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In one case where the key piece of evidence was a strand of hair, the FBI hair analysis "expert" testified that there was less than a .0005 chance that the hair did not belong to the defendant.
Years later, after the defendant was convicted and sent to prison, they DNA tested the crime-scene hair that the FBI "expert" had told the jury was almost certainly the defendant's, and it turned out that it wasn't even human hair. Had come from an animal, a dog IIRC.
But yeah, never question Infallible Science!!!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 25, 2018 05:04 PM (fqUgw)
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 25, 2018 04:58 PM (yTnCT)
That's what happens when you are 50 million in debt.
Posted by: Monk at April 25, 2018 05:05 PM (573j3)
Posted by: Slappy White at April 25, 2018 05:05 PM (Zc7fg)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 25, 2018 05:05 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2018 05:05 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 05:05 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: gNewt at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (Zc7fg)
yeah I just saw that claim, coincidentally enough. The Housemaid Murders or something.
I saw one claim that he went down to Jamaica and did some killings there.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 05:04 PM (mwi7D)
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That's the one. And you people think I'm nuts.
Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Carlos Danger at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (NWiLs)
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There is merit in the association - though I'm not sure the weather is the primary reason for those two countries. Need to ponder some more.
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (sX1BW)
Ever wonder why Europe has had so many wars?
Spend a winter in Europe and you will learn why.
Posted by: Soona at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (Fs5vw)
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 05:07 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 25, 2018 05:07 PM (tpDAe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 05:04 PM (mwi7D)
There are some interesting studies about mammals involving the absorption of DNA.
Posted by: Monk at April 25, 2018 05:07 PM (573j3)
Posted by: steevy at April 25, 2018 05:07 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: You were warned at April 25, 2018 05:08 PM (XdD2Z)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 05:08 PM (mwi7D)
I definitely posted that here. Fascinating. I heard about the possibility on an episode of CSI. Doing some Googling, I saw it was based on a real case.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 05:08 PM (8rNrN)
the 1980's and HG himself scored with a hot loose chick .IIRC
And they all had a good laugh about the butchered roommate.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 25, 2018 05:08 PM (oVJmc)
Jacob Levy had a severe case of syphilis, which would have both made him angry and affected his brain, and the cessation of the attacks correspond with the time that Levy died of the disease.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 25, 2018 05:08 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 25, 2018 05:07 PM (tpDAe)
I think that was a "Criminal Minds" episode... you know, the show where everything is solved in 42 minutes...
Posted by: kraken at April 25, 2018 05:09 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2018 05:09 PM (MVjcR)
It gives us an extra soul to fill our music with.
Posted by: Elvis Aaron Presley (living) at April 25, 2018 05:09 PM (8rNrN)
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Any test done by humans is suspect. I would find it very difficult to find someone guilty based on the testimony of one expert. There better be a lot of what we call circumstantial evidence corroborating the expert's testimony.
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 05:10 PM (sX1BW)
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There is merit in the association - though I'm not sure the weather is the primary reason for those two countries. Need to ponder some more.
Posted by: SH at April 25, 2018 04:47 PM (sX1BW)
Probably related to the Scandi connection, since Dublin, Kiev, and Moscow (IIRC) were all founded by Vikings, and the Scandis drink like fish.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 25, 2018 05:10 PM (+3KlA)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 25, 2018 05:04 PM (mwi7D)
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That's the one. And you people think I'm nuts.
Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (MVjcR)
Yes, yes we do, but for totally unrelated reasons.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 25, 2018 05:10 PM (feFsi)
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (8rNrN)
Huh. Hadn't heard that one. I'll check it out.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (MX7xj)
Spend a winter in Europe and you will learn why.
Posted by: Soona at April 25, 2018 05:06 PM (Fs5vw)
If Minnesota was older we would have killed all of you.
Posted by: X-ray at April 25, 2018 05:11 PM (Rrifi)
She was like -- wait, I understand how a test can show a man's kids aren't really his kids, BUT I GAVE BIRTH TO THEM, THEY CAME OUT OF ME.
She went through several years of bizarre bureaucratic hell before some doctor somewhere heard of the case and realized this might be a "chimera" situation.
Which it was.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 25, 2018 04:46 PM (7Cr6v)
Much more than one. It's a great job if one wants to be a serial killer. Always on the road, travelling state to state involving multiple jurisdictions and having no personal connection to the victims (other than killing them). Stranger murders are often the most difficult cases to solve.
Posted by: Her Royal Thighness at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (YC6xl)
It's probably rubbish. Likely Saucy Jacky was a head case who rapidly deteriorated to the point where he either committed suicide or ended up in Trembling Hills.
I used to read all the books and then stepped away from that case for quite a few years. I looked it up some time ago and noticed they started referring to his victims as the "Canonical Five".
What that means is that they've started adding a bunch of likely unrelated murders to his tally so people can right books about it and make money.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 25, 2018 05:12 PM (4ErVI)
Well on the one hand: good that they are being more picky. But on the other hand: almost certainly just being jerks because they hate Trump.
And as I posted in the last thread, I'm certain that Jack the Ripper was the pharmacist that got hanged for handing out poison as abortion pills to prostitutes in the area.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 05:16 PM (39g3+)
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Having been involved with 'expert testimony' on a Civil level, I can tell you that it is (in most cases) possible to find an 'expert' that will lead a jury in almost any direction.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 25, 2018 05:16 PM (7Cr6v)
Posted by: Anna Puma
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I'm innocent, I tell you!
Posted by: Dolly The Ewe at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (7Cr6v)
I'm guessing it is the same guy.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 25, 2018 05:18 PM (2DYau)
RIGHT! I was trying to think of the name. What a name.
And yeah, all Jack the Ripper theories are probably bullshit, except the ones about poor lunatics who died in the asylum, put there for unrelated reasons.
Posted by: ace at April 25, 2018 05:19 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Dolly The Ewe at April 25, 2018 05:20 PM (7Cr6v)
Indeed. It has to be a body of evidence, a compelling case, not just one guy. Thankfully the only one felony case I was on a jury panel for, they had a pretty complete case. Guy was molesting his daughter. It was kinda touch and go until they flew in his first wife from Virginia, and she looked like she was 14. The guy had a definite type and it was short eyes.
In the end, they didn't prove all the cases, some were just her say against him but everyone in the jury had a grim look on their face and found him guilty of all counts just to make sure he spent extra time behind bars.
The poor girl was so miserable on the stand. I wanted to kill the guy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 25, 2018 05:21 PM (39g3+)
hmm.
Posted by: Fritz at April 25, 2018 05:28 PM (J7XgW)
I've read some very convincing theories that Kathleen Johns was pulling an insurance scam. But yeah, even if her version of events was truthful and she wasn't just "blaming the Zodiac" for burning her car, it wasn't the Zodiac.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at April 25, 2018 05:29 PM (3dsTO)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 25, 2018 04:51 PM (ppaKI)
He was a special piece of work, over a hundred victims? One young man I recruited and later served with had been a Corrections Officer at the prison in Williamson County, TX where Lucas was held for a spell. He said every guard absolutely feared him, he was a very bad hombre.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at April 25, 2018 05:33 PM (DxWUs)
Posted by: LASue at April 25, 2018 04:35 PM (Z48ZB)
Old Teddy went to my High School (and possibly my Jr. High). My neighbor said that he used to follow her daughter home from school (we live about 3 blocks away from the HS).
Posted by: 29Victor at April 25, 2018 05:37 PM (HT1Jh)
My College roomate went there, said all the Yearbooks in the library had him (Ted) blacked out.
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 05:45 PM (aXkKa)
Posted by: jdgalt at April 25, 2018 05:45 PM (3SFo/)
Chimeras - absorbed twin - have to be identical, right? Can't happen with fraternal in a separate sack?
So, identical twins' DNA is different enough to be detected? (I should know this. But our twins were fraternal.
)Posted by: mindful webworker - willowed yet? don't care at April 25, 2018 05:47 PM (gECZB)
Posted by: torabora at April 25, 2018 05:52 PM (Y274z)
Only Sith deal in absolutes.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 25, 2018 05:52 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Brain Williams. at April 25, 2018 05:53 PM (Y274z)
Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2018 05:45 PM (aXkKa)
Yup. One of my classes (creative writing or something) was in the room where they put together the yearbooks. It had a bunch of old ones laying around. Of course we looked for Ted. All the pictures of him had been defaced.
Of course,sadly, Ted is pretty much the most famous person to ever come out of Wilson.
Posted by: 29Victor at April 25, 2018 07:54 PM (HT1Jh)
So... Can we get a similar working group together to re-open the Zodiac cold case?
How frightened is Ted Cruz right about now?
That right there is funny, I don't care who you are.
Except if, you know, you're Ted
Posted by: redclay at April 25, 2018 09:07 PM (nVN5G)
That right there is funny, I don't care who you are.
Except if, you know, you're Ted.
Nope, it's funny even if you're Ted.
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/920709146789515272
Posted by: Fizz at April 26, 2018 01:01 AM (GX56c)
Posted by: True the Note at April 26, 2018 09:52 AM (HLTe8)
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