Rand Paul Votes in Favor of Pompeo, Advancing His Nomination Out of Committee and to the Floor; Joe Manchin Says He'll Vote For Him for SecState

I missed this yesterday:

Pompeo nomination advanced with favorable recommendation out of committee, 11 for (1 by proxy), 9 against, 1 present
— Jenna Lifhits (@jlifhits) April 23, 2018

Manchin's claim of intent is mentioned in the second item at PJ Media's Morning Briefing-- with Paul switching his vote from "no" to "yes," Pompeo will be voted forward out of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. That would probably be enough to secure his confirmation as Secretary of State, but, for added cushion, Joe Manchin, who is up for re-election and has to put on his Conservative Halloween Costume for a little while, says he'll vote for him too.

Regarding that "present" vote: It's actually kind of nice.

Coons: Johnny Isakson..is one of my best friends here..Johnny had a difficult day. He delivered the eulogy..for his best friend & had difficulty getting..here...he asked if..I would I vote present. I was happy to do that
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) April 23, 2018

Why did Rand Paul change his vote? Well, he says it's because Pompeo told him he's changed his mind about Iraq and Afganhistan to agree with Trump (and, therefore, Rand Paul).

After calling continuously for weeks for Director Pompeo to support President Trump’s belief that the Iraq war was a mistake, and that it is time to leave Afghanistan, today I received confirmation the Director Pompeo agrees with @realDonaldTrump
— Senator Rand Paul (@RandPaul) April 23, 2018

Was this just a faked-up agreement to let Paul vote for Pompeo without seeming like he was just giving up? By that I mean -- was this an arranged exit to permit Paul to gracefully step down from his position?

Maybe. But also, on the other hand...

A fellow commentator said privately that this might have been of a fake in the other direction -- it allows one influential pro-Iraq-War voice to change his opinion, apparently under duress and only in order to advance to becoming Secretary of State.

But who knows -- maybe Pompeo also needed an excuse, an "out," to declare the Iraq War was a bad decision in hindsight. Maybe this also served as a graceful exit from the pro-Iraq-War position for Pompeo, and arranged step-down for him as well.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 03:33 PM

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1 first !

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2018 03:26 PM (bUjCl)

2 nd

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 24, 2018 03:27 PM (9ZlHt)

3 Dammit, I was close.

Posted by: Clifford Skridlow at April 24, 2018 03:27 PM (bBoSA)

4 And the Washington, DC drama story loses another plotline... I'm sure the media will find a new one tomorrow.

Posted by: makatta at April 24, 2018 03:27 PM (Y7Qzg)

5 Wow, I seem to be checking in JUST at the right time today. Top Ten in two threads?

It's MILLER TIME!

Posted by: makatta at April 24, 2018 03:28 PM (Y7Qzg)

6 something something

Pompeo and circumstance

blah blah

Posted by: Lance McCormick is barely even phoning it in now at April 24, 2018 03:28 PM (hXeKX)

7 Until Pompeo takes a cock up the ass, I'm voting "no."

Posted by: Cory B. at April 24, 2018 03:28 PM (vg8iE)

8 Dammit, I was close.

==

respectable bronze, dude

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2018 03:29 PM (bUjCl)

9 Not first!

Posted by: Surfperch at April 24, 2018 03:29 PM (HRTU/)

10 It's better to be top 10 than first.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:29 PM (xE5n0)

11 Was this just a faked-up agreement to let Paul vote for Pompeo without seeming like he was just giving up? By that I mean -- was this an arranged exit to permit Paul to gracefully step down from his position?

++++

Yes. Paul's votes approving both Kerry and Hillary for SoS were being discussed. Taking the position that those two were ok, but Pompeo was a bridge too far would be difficult to defend. He needed a way to save face.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 24, 2018 03:29 PM (pvjTE)

12 I hope the latter is true, but I know it's not.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2018 03:29 PM (LNPd9)

13 ok, I guess that's good. I still want the DNC to have to real world fillibuster instead of fake pretend with the fake, sad, cuck GOP going along.

Posted by: Kuhyt at April 24, 2018 03:30 PM (Kuhyt)

14 'That would probably be enough to secure his confirmation as Secretary of State'

this makes me very happy

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2018 03:30 PM (bUjCl)

15 for perspective the Senate confirmed Grammy H as Foggiest Bottom 94 for 2 against....

Yes folks, "reach around across the aisle" only works in one direction....

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 03:30 PM (SzZnW)

16 First is easy. 10 @ 10 is finesse. You luddites.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:30 PM (xE5n0)

17 I thought Mount Vesuvius destroyed Pompeo.

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2018 03:30 PM (HgMAr)

18 I see Democrats like Manchin continue to hide behind Republican camouflage for the election.

On the day after the election they will drop the veneer.

Wny hasn't the GOP called people like Manchin and Heidkamp out for this bullshit?

Posted by: Marcus T, Avenger at April 24, 2018 03:30 PM (VpIIl)

19 Just when a good gun thread was getting going.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 24, 2018 03:30 PM (Dp6qK)

20

70% OF WIMONS WANT FOADDY-FI EM SAPODILLA!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at April 24, 2018 03:30 PM (mPeei)

21 Knowing what I know now(how everything would be fucked up) I have changed my opinion about the Iraq war too.

Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2018 03:30 PM (LiyEm)

22 It would appear Rand Paul's jig is up.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at April 24, 2018 03:31 PM (bB4HN)

23 Pompeo, Pompeo, Pompeo, Pompeo figaro

Posted by: Marcus T, Avenger at April 24, 2018 03:31 PM (VpIIl)

24 It's better to be top 10 than first.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:29 PM (xE5n0)

sad..

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2018 03:32 PM (bUjCl)

25 I hope West Virginia doesn't fall for this schtick again.

Clearly Manchin was only allowed to do this because Pompeo already had the votes.

Posted by: Maritime at April 24, 2018 03:33 PM (lKmt3)

26 Or, maybe Rand Paul just postured himself into a corner and needed a face-saving way out. Whatever the case, at least we have a SecState. Now to get somebody at CIA.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at April 24, 2018 03:33 PM (RD7QR)

27 23 Pompeo, Pompeo, Pompeo, Pompeo figaro

Posted by: Marcus T, Avenger at April 24, 2018 03:31 PM (VpIIl)

I'm just a Nor boy, from a Nor family.

Posted by: Luap Nor Jr. at April 24, 2018 03:33 PM (Dp6qK)

28 In before Frito Bandito!

Posted by: Roland THTG at April 24, 2018 03:33 PM (xBSm0)

29 Rand Paul is nucking futs.

Posted by: Marcus T, Avenger at April 24, 2018 03:33 PM (VpIIl)

30 Joe Donnelly says he's voting for him, too.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2018 03:33 PM (IqV8l)

31 So was it a faux pas when Trump brushed dandruff off Macron's shoulder before he had his photo taken in the Oval Office?

Shouldn't Macron's mom have taken care of that grooming matter before sonny showed up in the White House? What's the point of marrying your old teacher if she doesn't teach you the important stuff?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 24, 2018 03:33 PM (fqUgw)

32 He needed a way to save face.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 24, 2018 03:29 PM (pvjTE)

-----------------------------
Why would he want to save THAT face. I never attacked his looks but believe me there is plenty of subject matter right there.

Posted by: Trump-et at April 24, 2018 03:34 PM (5NMZN)

33 Maybe this was all just a charade that will eventually usher in the Kanye Kardashian robot coup that this country so desperately needs.

Or maybe Luap Nor's wig is on too tight??

One thing for sure, only time and a lot of booze will tell.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 24, 2018 03:34 PM (xqfqx)

34 Pompeo promised not to tackle him on his lawn.

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2018 03:35 PM (HgMAr)

35 It's better to be top 10 than first.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:29 PM (xE5n0)

sad..
Posted by: runner at April 24, 2018 03:32 PM (bUjCl)

lol
Well at least I didn't run to the prior thread and taunt them that they weren't first! You braggart.

I am like Captain Kirk...I can win. You are Xindi.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:35 PM (xE5n0)

36 He'll be confirmed, remember Democrats also engage in Kabuki politics too, trying to manipulate their voters and keep the donors emptying wallets.

I'll never, ever decide that invading Iraq was the wrong move, but it clearly was handled poorly, particularly the rebuilding. They should have hit it, flattened all opposition, wiped out the bad guys, and left. Said "don't make us come back" because the United States does not have the will to properly see through a rebuilding and calming process and the left is too treasonous to work with such a program.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 03:35 PM (39g3+)

37 34 Pompeo promised not to tackle him on his lawn.

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2018 03:35 PM (HgMAr)

Trump had to promise no more wedgies or hair comments either.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at April 24, 2018 03:35 PM (Dp6qK)

38 Why are stocks dumping?

Big-boobed Shep!-in-training is wearing a dark modest top, and the chyron says it's tech and industrials bringing it down.

Whatever. Normal ups and downs, apparently

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 24, 2018 03:35 PM (8iiMU)

39 33 Maybe this was all just a charade that will eventually usher in the Kanye Kardashian robot coup that this country so desperately needs.

Or maybe Luap Nor's wig is on too tight??

One thing for sure, only time and a lot of booze will tell.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 24, 2018 03:34 PM (xqfqx)

Corey Booker and T-Bone are going to explain it all using interpretive dance.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at April 24, 2018 03:36 PM (RD7QR)

40 "Yes. Paul's votes approving both Kerry and Hillary for SoS were being discussed. Taking the position that those two were ok, but Pompeo was a bridge too far would be difficult to defend. He needed a way to save face."

Rand Paul is a bit of a grand stander. But hey, he got a private meeting with Trump over it and a lot of media coverage before folding so I guess he feels it was worth it. Unlike his father, he does know when to back down.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 24, 2018 03:36 PM (OD2ni)

41 Joe Donnelly says he's voting for him, too.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2018 03:33 PM (IqV8l)

Also up for re-election.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:36 PM (fiGNd)

42 33 Maybe this was all just a charade that will eventually usher in the Kanye Kardashian robot coup that this country so desperately needs.
_______________

On the plus side, it would be fun to watch Kardashian try and squeeze her giant donkey butt into suit skirts.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 24, 2018 03:37 PM (fqUgw)

43 Rand Paul's explanation sounds as dumb as his original opposition. Why consider the guy so bad he cannot be allowed into the position if this is all it takes to accept him??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 03:37 PM (39g3+)

44 **Dumps Lawn Clippings Over Fence**

Posted by: Rand Paul at April 24, 2018 03:37 PM (xxW3N)

45 17
I thought Mount Vesuvius destroyed Pompeo.

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2018 03:30 PM (HgMAr)

John Wayne's handyman in Who Shot Liberty Valance?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 24, 2018 03:37 PM (ymnmz)

46 Shouldn't Macron's mom have taken care of that grooming matter before sonny showed up in the White House? What's the point of marrying your old teacher if she doesn't teach you the important stuff?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 24, 2018 03:33 PM (fqUgw)
..........

...like bathing more than twice a week.

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2018 03:37 PM (HgMAr)

47 21 Knowing what I know now(how everything would be fucked up) I have changed my opinion about the Iraq war too.
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2018 03:30 PM (LiyEm)

We've entered an era of Constant War.

The US Military has been on Active Combat Ops for 16 years... equaling the Combat Forces Involvement in Viet Nam, but with no end in sight.

The US Military is at War.... the American People, and rest of the Government... are not... (IMO).

This scares the shit out of me...

Posted by: Jimmy Olsen at April 24, 2018 03:38 PM (NgKpN)

48 Silver Dimes!
Ron Paul

Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2018 03:38 PM (LiyEm)

49 >>Rand Paul's explanation sounds as dumb as his original opposition.

Aquabuddha writes all his material.

Posted by: Rand Paul at April 24, 2018 03:38 PM (xxW3N)

50 Posted by: Jimmy Olsen at April 24, 2018 03:38 PM (NgKpN)

Sock fail...

Posted by: Don Q. at April 24, 2018 03:38 PM (NgKpN)

51 Cory Booker butthurt.

First time for everything, eh, Cory?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 24, 2018 03:38 PM (+3KlA)

52 Pompeo: head of his class at West Point, and his first act doing the SecState thing is to get the fat little midget in North Korea to shut up, sit down with Trump, abandon his nuclear dreams, and talk about a formal conclusion of the Korean War, which no one's been able to do for over sixty years.

Sounds horribly unqualified for the job; how could anyone cast a vote for him?

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 24, 2018 03:38 PM (iIzG7)

53 lol
Well at least I didn't run to the prior thread and taunt them that they weren't first! You braggart.

I am like Captain Kirk...I can win. You are Xindi.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:35 PM (xE5n0)

of course you can. and when you do, we shall drink blood wine in your honor. but not today.

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2018 03:38 PM (bUjCl)

54 Son Of Silver Dimes Sock OFF

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2018 03:38 PM (xxW3N)

55 I am like Captain Kirk...I can win. You are Xindi.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:35 PM (xE5n0)

I'd prefer that you were a little more like a green Orion slave-girl, but one can't have everything. Besides, you are fine as you are.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 24, 2018 03:39 PM (8iiMU)

56 52 Pompeo: head of his class at West Point, and his first act doing the SecState thing is to get the fat little midget in North Korea to shut up, sit down with Trump, abandon his nuclear dreams, and talk about a formal conclusion of the Korean War, which no one's been able to do for over sixty years.

Sounds horribly unqualified for the job; how could anyone cast a vote for him?
Posted by: Qoheleth at April 24, 2018 03:38 PM (iIzG7)

=============

Because Donald Trump nominated him.

Duh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 24, 2018 03:39 PM (9ZlHt)

57 "But also, on the other hand..."

This Congress, apparently, has more hands than an octopus. I'm getting dizzy trying to follow.

Posted by: Machiavelli at April 24, 2018 03:39 PM (H8S+R)

58 This scares the shit out of me...

Posted by: Jimmy Olsen at April 24, 2018 03:38 PM (NgKpN)

People like turning on the news and seeing American Troops kicking ass somewhere around the globe. Makes 'em feel good.

I blame the demise of the National Wrestling Alliance.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:39 PM (fiGNd)

59 Paul and Pompeo, the dudes abide.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 24, 2018 03:39 PM (r+sAi)

60 "41 Joe Donnelly says he's voting for him, too.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2018 03:33 PM (IqV8l)

Also up for re-election.
Posted by: ScoggDog"

These Dems sure are not acting like there is a big blue wave coming in November as Jeff B and others are excitedly promising.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 24, 2018 03:40 PM (OD2ni)

61 54 Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2018 03:38 PM (xxW3N)

My favorite charity?

March of Silver Dimes

//Luap Darn

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 03:40 PM (SzZnW)

62 Rand Paul is a bit of a grand stander. But hey, he got a private meeting with Trump over it and a lot of media coverage before folding so I guess he feels it was worth it. Unlike his father, he does know when to back down.
Posted by: Benji Carver

___________

Yea, on one hand, I usually agree with what he's saying, but I think he also often times gives cover to Democrats by latching on to something small and losing the big picture.

Funny how as soon as Rand Paul dropped it, lots of vulnerable Democrats suddenly had lost their shield.

Posted by: Maritime at April 24, 2018 03:40 PM (lKmt3)

63 57
"But also, on the other hand..."

This Congress, apparently, has more hands than an octopus. I'm getting dizzy trying to follow.

Posted by: Machiavelli at April 24, 2018 03:39 PM (H8S+R)

Tell me more!

Posted by: Pee Wee Herman's Gripping Hand at April 24, 2018 03:40 PM (ymnmz)

64 "This Congress, apparently, has more hands than an octopus."

Funny you should mention that right as tax season end. Here's hoping your wallet isn't too much lighter.

Now, if you'd said "this Congress has more hands than Joe Biden..."

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 24, 2018 03:41 PM (iIzG7)

65 The Iraq war was a bad decision period.

Hind sight or not.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 24, 2018 03:41 PM (tbuLS)

66 The US Military has been on Active Combat Ops for 16 years... equaling
the Combat Forces Involvement in Viet Nam, but with no end in sight.

-----------------------------------------

The Air Force dates their ops from 1990 and on through Northern n Southern Watch...

Posted by: RioBravo at April 24, 2018 03:41 PM (5NMZN)

67 makatta: "And the Washington, DC drama story loses another plotline... I'm sure the media will find a new one tomorrow."

Tater-totgate is in the bullpen for relief.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 24, 2018 03:41 PM (H8S+R)

68 "Cory Booker butthurt.

First time for everything, eh, Cory?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara"

Not the first time, believe me.

Posted by: T-Bone at April 24, 2018 03:41 PM (OD2ni)

69 this is going to be nice - Pompeo, Stash, Mattis. The mullahs don't stand a chance.

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2018 03:41 PM (bUjCl)

70 Mark Steyn on Rush today (I am paraphrasing):

Trump and Macron have great comraderie, ever though they have differences.
Trump is a tall man, Macron is shorter. Trump does not like the Iran deal, Macron does. Trump likes younger women, Macron prefers older women....

LOL.

And he said it with a deadpan delivery. Pure comedy gold, Jerry.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 24, 2018 03:41 PM (8iiMU)

71 I am like Captain Kirk...I can win. You are Xindi.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:35 PM (xE5n0)

of course you can. and when you do, we shall drink blood wine in your honor. but not today.
Posted by: runner at April 24, 2018 03:38 PM (bUjCl)

lol
So, a Klingon ceremony. Okay, but no kissy-face.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:42 PM (xE5n0)

72 The Air Force dates their ops from 1990 and on through Northern n Southern Watch...

Posted by: RioBravo at April 24, 2018 03:41 PM (5NMZN)

Dude ... we're talking about continuous MILITARY operations.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:42 PM (fiGNd)

73
Its funny how Manchin gets "released" to vote with the gop once the outcome is secured. He is just Schumer's butt boy.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 24, 2018 03:42 PM (r+sAi)

74 70 Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 24, 2018 03:41 PM (8iiMU)

I prefer Steyn to Limbaugh.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 03:43 PM (SzZnW)

75 Or, maybe Rand Paul just postured himself into a corner and needed a face-saving way out. Whatever the case, at least we have a SecState. Now to get somebody at CIA.
Posted by: joncelli

Rand needs to put on his big boy panties and grow the fuck up.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 03:43 PM (pQplJ)

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 24, 2018 03:43 PM (oVJmc)

77 Excellent reminder that it is insane - insane - and stupid and naive in the extreme to put troops in harm's way "for the US". If Code Pink, ANSWER, or Ted Kennedy or Jawhn Kerry aren't available, you'll have a Rand Paul or a Trump to squander gains and effort, and prance for the unserious populace.

I'm offended that Trump has been using Iraq as the staging area for our efforts against ISIS. It was access gained through a mistake. We really should have apologized to the Ba'ath Party, reinstalled their tyranny, harumphed as sanctions finally completely collapsed, then ..... fulminated as Iraq used its trillions of $$$ of wealth to do what it was waiting to do.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 24, 2018 03:43 PM (QDnY+)

78 And I mean that.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 24, 2018 03:43 PM (oVJmc)

79 73
Its funny how Manchin gets "released" to vote with the gop once the outcome is secured. He is just Schumer's butt boy.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 24, 2018 03:42 PM (r+sAi)

It'd be nice if the voters in WV would get that through their heads.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at April 24, 2018 03:43 PM (RD7QR)

80 What's the word on this Pompeo chap? What his angle?

Posted by: Max Power at April 24, 2018 03:44 PM (q177U)

81 Dude ... we're talking about continuous MILITARY operations.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:42 PM (fiGNd)
--------------------------
The rapid reaction force in action!

Posted by: RioBravo at April 24, 2018 03:44 PM (5NMZN)

82 Pompa-o! Pompaa-a-oh!
Daylight come and me wanna go home

Posted by: Rand Belafonte at April 24, 2018 03:44 PM (HgMAr)

83 76

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 24, 2018 03:43 PM (oVJmc)

Threadwinner. Shut it down.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:44 PM (fiGNd)

84 Qoheleth: "Funny you should mention that right as tax season end. Here's hoping your wallet isn't too much lighter."

Sadly, my wallet is never weighty. It is always in Rape Season. The Treasury didn't do anything more to it than it always does.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 24, 2018 03:44 PM (H8S+R)

85 60 "41 Joe Donnelly says he's voting for him, too.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2018 03:33 PM (IqV8l)

Also up for re-election.
Posted by: ScoggDog"

These Dems sure are not acting like there is a big blue wave coming in November as Jeff B and others are excitedly promising.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 24, 2018 03:40 PM (OD2ni)

=============

Blue Wave thoughts:

It's been predicted since the inauguration as an assumed fact.

Trump polled poorly throughout the 2016 campaign and won anyway.

National elections are largely determined based on 3 factors: presidential approval, the economy, and war.

The economy is doing well. POTUS has decent approval, largely in line with what he had prior to the election in 2016. War is not a major factor right now, just potential threats like North Korea.

The generic congressional ballot doesn't show a large lead by Democrats.

Polling firms are known to make their polls more accurate the closer they get to elections. They get judged based on final polls, not the ones they did six months before.

The assumption of a blue wave seems just so off to me. The only thing that gives me pause is the special election results for the past 6-9 months, but as we all know, special elections are typically non-predictive.

Also, midterms have largely produced more Republican friendly electorates than presidential years.

None of this, absolutely none of it, naturally leads to the assumption that Democrats will win big.

Not a prediction, but I would not be surprised by Republicans losing a net of 5-10 house seats and gaining a net of 5-7 senate seats. And no one will have seen it coming. Again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (9ZlHt)

86 72 Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:42 PM (fiGNd)

The USAF has been in continuous combat ready ops in the Gulf since Desert Shield Scogg.....

Continuous, as in "not one week off."

The Air Defense Artillery in the US Army was in Kuwait and Saudi since Gulf War One until Saddam fell.

Continuous not one week off....

there are people in the ADA who spent LITERALLY 50% of their career in Durka Durka and did 24 years.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (SzZnW)

87 "Cory Booker butthurt.

First time for everything, eh, Cory?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara"

Not the first time, believe me.
Posted by: T-Bone

Ride hard brave adventurer! Ride hard!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (pQplJ)

88
Dammit, I was close.

==

respectable bronze, dude

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2018 03:29 PM (bUjCl)

Silver = First Loser

Bronze = Second Loser

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (XWkhW)

89 80. Dude's got a guinea name. So at least he's not demonstrably Irish. Which is something.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (fA1SL)

90 What's the word on this Pompeo chap? What his angle?

He likes tater tot shots .

Posted by: Roland THTG at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (xBSm0)

91 80 What's the word on this Pompeo chap? What his angle?
Posted by: Max Power at April 24, 2018 03:44 PM (q177U)

You'll have to ask MRS. Pompeo!

(Tip the veal!)

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (RD7QR)

92 Who knows the whys, what counts is that he is out of committee.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Tater is the Latest Gender at the Outrage Outlet! at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (hLRSq)

93 >>>>>I'll never, ever decide that invading Iraq was the
wrong move, but it clearly was handled poorly, particularly the
rebuilding. They should have hit it, flattened all opposition, wiped
out the bad guys, and left. Said "don't make us come back" because the
United States does not have the will to properly see through a
rebuilding and calming process and the left is too treasonous to work
with such a program.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2018 03:35 PM
.
.
.
.Heck we as a Country could hardly keep the rebuilding effort going after WWII. Nearly every single line item in the post war budget had to be fought tooth and nail just to keep up a presence in Japan and Germany until Russia started it's $hit.

Right now the vast majority of voters have the attention span of a gnat and get tired of $hit quickly.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 24, 2018 03:46 PM (+Dllb)

94 I'm getting sick and tired of this horseshit "advise and consent" game.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 03:46 PM (jjaLl)

95 Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (SzZnW)

Good Grief, sven. Next you'll be tellin' us about the Coast Guard ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:46 PM (fiGNd)

96 "Mr. Pompeo, I'm personally concerned about your stance on homosexuality; for the record, how do you feel about gay sex?"

"It has nothing to do with the job I'm being interviewed for, Mr. Booker. I'm flattered by your interest, but you're not my type. I'd be happy to introduce you to some folks that might be interested, though..."

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 24, 2018 03:47 PM (iIzG7)

97 Not a prediction, but I would not be surprised by Republicans losing a net of 5-10 house seats and gaining a net of 5-7 senate seats.

And no one will have seen it coming. Again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

You will have.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 03:47 PM (pQplJ)

98 O/T

Anti-vaxers.

And doggy autism?

GTFO

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/988498994685980675/photo/1

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 24, 2018 03:47 PM (EyPfd)

99 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (9ZlHt)

Trump's favorability rating keeps nudging up and up.

Despite the full-throated screeching of the entire edifice of the Democrat-Media Complex.

Or, perhaps, because of it.

Posted by: filbert at April 24, 2018 03:47 PM (953wK)

100 Am I the only one versed in the Fine Military Tradition of talking shit about the Air Farce ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:48 PM (fiGNd)

101 98. Great..... 'spergian shepherds

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 24, 2018 03:48 PM (fA1SL)

102 Silver = First Loser

Bronze = Second Loser
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (XWkhW)

10@10 - Winner Takes All. Master of the Universe.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:48 PM (xE5n0)

103 but I just heard some liberals say pompeo was worse than hitler and literally the most right wing racist to ever race.

Big if true, I wonder if these bombshells will affect the vote?

Posted by: Kuhyt at April 24, 2018 03:48 PM (Kuhyt)

104 Guy Mohawk: "Its funny how Manchin gets 'released' to vote with the gop once the outcome is secured. He is just Schumer's butt boy."

The brilliance of the Uniparty or the Party system itself. If leadership (budget managers) wants something, then democracy is sacrificed as needed. Vote-rigging as SOP.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 24, 2018 03:48 PM (H8S+R)

105 I saw The Autistic Doggehs open for The Stray Cats at Bonnerroo back in 99!

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2018 03:48 PM (xxW3N)

106 Where along the spectrum are the special doggies?

Posted by: NCKate at April 24, 2018 03:48 PM (bCtf/)

107 Not a prediction, but I would not be surprised by Republicans losing a net of 5-10 house seats and gaining a net of 5-7 senate seats."

----I'd take that

Posted by: Kuhyt at April 24, 2018 03:49 PM (Kuhyt)

108 106. You mean the Indigo hounds?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 24, 2018 03:49 PM (fA1SL)

109 10@10 - Winner Takes All. Master of the Universe.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:48 PM (xE5n0)

Sorry Sweetheart ... but Second Place is still just the First Loser.

Posted by: The Late Dale Earnhardt at April 24, 2018 03:49 PM (fiGNd)

110 OT, did you all see Macron kissing Melania's hand this morning? o la la..Frenchmen do have a certain flair to them.

Posted by: IC at April 24, 2018 03:49 PM (a0IVu)

111 My prediction on the midterms is we gain a few seats in the Senate, but lose the House.

I think the redistricting in PA gave Dems a handful of seats in a lock, plus all the retirements from scared Republicans make several more contests winnable. Then there's all the special elections show crazy high Dem turnout and tepid Republican turnout.

I hope I'm wrong, just the way I'm seeing it. But Trump's numbers are good and the economy is doing well, so it's really Congressional Republicans own fault if they screw up the midterms.

Posted by: Maritime at April 24, 2018 03:49 PM (lKmt3)

112 95 Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:46 PM (fiGNd)

That's different "sorta" they are DoT types who do LE for fun and profit.

Look I get what you are saying, but understand Pac10077 hopped on the trail in 1997 and there were guys burning out at Ft Bliss(her first assignment and THEN the only CONUS Patriot base) who had been to "SWA" as they called it 50% of the time since 1990....

I watched it kill marriages, hurt kids, and on more than one occasion help lead to empty boots.

There's a reason we call it "duty" and "service" but yeah there was a disproportionate level of sacrifice between and within the various branches of the force.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 03:50 PM (SzZnW)

113 Nice face-saver for Rand.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 24, 2018 03:50 PM (hMwEB)

114 99 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (9ZlHt)

Trump's favorability rating keeps nudging up and up.

Despite the full-throated screeching of the entire edifice of the Democrat-Media Complex.

Or, perhaps, because of it.
Posted by: filbert at April 24, 2018 03:47 PM (953wK)

=============

Imagine if the press were on our side...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 24, 2018 03:50 PM (9ZlHt)

115 OT, did you all see Macron kissing Melania's hand this morning? o la la..Frenchmen do have a certain flair to them.
Posted by: IC

Did he stop at the elbow?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 03:50 PM (pQplJ)

116 Trump's favorability rating keeps nudging up and up.

Despite the full-throated screeching of the entire edifice of the Democrat-Media Complex.

Or, perhaps, because of it.
Posted by: filbert at April 24, 2018 03:47 PM (953wK)

I'm in a sitch where I have to keep walking past a TV permanently set to MSNBC.

They are fucking insane. It blows my mind that grown people can behave this way.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2018 03:50 PM (+lOpA)

117 >>did you all see Macron kissing Melania's hand this morning? o la la..Frenchmen do have a certain flair to them.

Yep. And it smells like B.O.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2018 03:50 PM (xxW3N)

118 McConnell just filed for cloture on Rick Grenell. A little late, but good for him. F Schumer.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 24, 2018 03:50 PM (OD2ni)

119 I'm voting for Pompei, Trump and for the little guy with the funny hair!

Posted by: Kanye Kardashian at April 24, 2018 03:50 PM (xqfqx)

120 Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 03:50 PM (SzZnW)

Sven ... I'm screwing with you.

I'd never make fun of the Air Force's sacrifices to National Defense. Steakless Thursdays must have been a real bitch.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:51 PM (fiGNd)

121 Imagine if the press were on our side...

That would be unclean.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2018 03:51 PM (CClpm)

122 "did you all see Macron kissing Melania's hand this morning? o la la..Frenchmen do have a certain flair to them."

Pepe La Pew would not have been so funny were it not based in truth.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 24, 2018 03:51 PM (OD2ni)

123 Practically every one of these clowns ( Democrats too) voted for Secretary of State Hillary who then used the office for pay for play.

Posted by: Skip at April 24, 2018 03:52 PM (aC6Sd)

124 111 My prediction on the midterms is we gain a few seats in the Senate, but lose the House.

I think the redistricting in PA gave Dems a handful of seats in a lock, plus all the retirements from scared Republicans make several more contests winnable. Then there's all the special elections show crazy high Dem turnout and tepid Republican turnout.

I hope I'm wrong, just the way I'm seeing it. But Trump's numbers are good and the economy is doing well, so it's really Congressional Republicans own fault if they screw up the midterms.
Posted by: Maritime at April 24, 2018 03:49 PM (lKmt3)

===============

Assuming that polling remains about where it is, the only other major shoe to drop (actually, a bunch of shoes) will be candidate selection on both sides.

How that plays out will affect everything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 24, 2018 03:52 PM (9ZlHt)

125 I want to comment on the previous thread.
The NYT of course pays equal attention to debunking far left conspiracy theories like Russia right

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 24, 2018 03:52 PM (cJiGQ)

126 Not a prediction, but I would not be surprised by Republicans losing a net of 5-10 house seats and gaining a net of 5-7 senate seats. And no one will have seen it coming. Again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (9ZlHt)
............

UNEXPECTED

Posted by: MSM at April 24, 2018 03:52 PM (HgMAr)

127 121 Imagine if the press were on our side...

That would be unclean.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 24, 2018 03:51 PM (CClpm)

Cooties.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2018 03:52 PM (+lOpA)

128 Four dimensional chess at work: Trump wants to get our military out of Iraq... and move them to our bases in America-friendly Kurdistan.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 24, 2018 03:52 PM (iIzG7)

129 118 McConnell just filed for cloture on Rick Grenell. A little late, but good for him. F Schumer.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 24, 2018 03:50 PM (OD2ni)

Eh, Mitch is just turtling along. Slow and steady gets the PRC bribe money.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at April 24, 2018 03:52 PM (RD7QR)

130 "OT, did you all see Macron kissing Melania's hand this morning? o la la..Frenchmen do have a certain flair to them.
Posted by: IC

Did he stop at the elbow?"

Was Melania speaking French? I need to know.

Posted by: Gomez Adams at April 24, 2018 03:53 PM (OD2ni)

131 120 Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:51 PM (fiGNd)

We had to make our own beds for a week....dark times....dark times.

//Lt Colonel Chad "Biff" Myers USAF

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 03:53 PM (SzZnW)

132 TheJamesMadison: "None of this, absolutely none of it, naturally leads to the assumption that Democrats will win big."

Ahh, but did you consider that we have a weakening yet still determined NeverTrump contingent and a GOPe leading the caucus? In and of itself, the Democrats would get hammered, but for the GOPe...

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 24, 2018 03:53 PM (H8S+R)

133 I think the redistricting in PA gave Dems a handful of seats in a lock, plus all the retirements from scared Republicans make several more contests winnable.

I don't see any "scared" pubs. I see turncoats.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 03:54 PM (pQplJ)

134 ...like bathing more than twice a week.
Posted by: wth at April 24, 2018 03:37 PM (HgMAr)

... but French...

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 24, 2018 03:54 PM (hMwEB)

135 It was about nothing more than Rand grandstanding and getting attention.

Posted by: dagny at April 24, 2018 03:54 PM (ahV/f)

136
Where along the spectrum are the special doggies?
Posted by: NCKate

Ultraviolent

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2018 03:54 PM (IqV8l)

137 You know. It's one thing to study history and not repeat it. It's another to re-hash it. It really doesn't matter what you call it today.

Eff RaPaul.

Posted by: golfman at April 24, 2018 03:54 PM (If3tB)

138 10@10 - Winner Takes All. Master of the Universe.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:48 PM (xE5n0)

Sorry Sweetheart ... but Second Place is still just the First Loser.
Posted by: The Late Dale Earnhardt at April 24, 2018 03:49 PM (fiGNd)

Pshaw.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:54 PM (xE5n0)

139 Hindsight is 20/20... The war in Iraq did not accomplish much and it is looking like the war in Afghanistan is not going to bear much fruit either. That makes me incredibly sad, So many people sacrificed so much to come up with so little for it in the end. Death, trauma, ruined lives ruined bodies, blood, sweat, tears... The lesson for me is that total war is the answer. Either fight to win and go home or don't bother fighting. Half measures just prolong the cost and the suffering. Fuck me. And God bless the american military.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at April 24, 2018 03:55 PM (0OmEj)

140 "OT, did you all see Macron kissing Melania's hand this morning?"
............

Did he get dandruff all over her sleeve?

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2018 03:55 PM (HgMAr)

141 Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 03:53 PM (SzZnW)

I can't believe I hooked you on that one.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:55 PM (fiGNd)

142 132 TheJamesMadison: "None of this, absolutely none of it, naturally leads to the assumption that Democrats will win big."

Ahh, but did you consider that we have a weakening yet still determined NeverTrump contingent and a GOPe leading the caucus? In and of itself, the Democrats would get hammered, but for the GOPe...
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 24, 2018 03:53 PM (H8S+R)

=============

I get the sense that your tongue is a bit in cheek.

However, it brings to mind something.

Did you know that Trump performed along the lines of what a generic Republican would do?

Despite the fact that everyone considered him to be uniquely terrible as a candidate (mere weeks after the Access Hollywood tape), he still performed as expected.

Personality matters less than many people think the bigger the race. The vast majority of base voters end up coming home anyway, and the squishy middle tend to vote for issues like the economy and war.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 24, 2018 03:55 PM (9ZlHt)

143 The Iraq war was a bad decision period.

Hind sight or not.
Posted by: Kreplach

Yep.

And part of my contempt for the GOPe is the stark fact that none of them ever once made an effort to discuss this after the disasterous 2008 election.

Even 'Mr. Brain' Romney didn't bother to address the 8 billion pound gorilla raping the GOP.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2018 03:55 PM (LNPd9)

144 I wouldn't be surprised if we lose the 9th here. Pub is being primaried and the dem has more money than both pubbies together. And all that steyer $$$$

Posted by: NCKate at April 24, 2018 03:55 PM (bCtf/)

145 TheJamesMadison: "Imagine if the press were on our side..."

Then I'd defect.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 24, 2018 03:56 PM (H8S+R)

146 Son of Luap Nor changed his mind because Aqua Buddha said so.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 03:56 PM (XMDuf)

147 Son of Luap Nor changed his mind because Aqua Buddha said so.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 03:56 PM (XMDuf)

Grandad was an Aqua Buddha Man.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:57 PM (fiGNd)

148 133 I think the redistricting in PA gave Dems a handful of seats in a lock, plus all the retirements from scared Republicans make several more contests winnable.

I don't see any "scared" pubs. I see turncoats.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 03:54 PM (pQplJ)

The redistricting was about flipping the State Legislature so that the Tommunist can finally get his 3X State Income Tax increase that he's been trying to push through for years.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 03:58 PM (XMDuf)

149 Kabuki... is what I think this is called....

Posted by: kraken at April 24, 2018 03:58 PM (zSVEm)

150 144 I wouldn't be surprised if we lose the 9th here. Pub is being primaried and the dem has more money than both pubbies together. And all that steyer $$$$
Posted by: NCKate at April 24, 2018 03:55 PM (bCtf/)

There's a lot of lefty PAC money out there. Trump makes them as crazy as a crack monkey with a belly full of fire ants. The Donald can save this by getting out and shoring up the base but he's kinda busy right now. I'll get more worried about it after the choice of candidates is clearer.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at April 24, 2018 03:58 PM (RD7QR)

151 130 "OT, did you all see Macron kissing Melania's hand this morning? o la la..Frenchmen do have a certain flair to them.
Posted by: IC

Did he go all Pepe le Pew?

Posted by: WisRich at April 24, 2018 03:59 PM (G0vdT)

152 I listened to Bob Menendez expressing his concerns about Pompeo. IMHO, he should get a 95% vote affirmation in the Senate. This is an outrage. If Pompeo isn't qualified, then no one is.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at April 24, 2018 03:59 PM (rdl6o)

153
I think the redistricting in PA gave Dems a handful of seats in a lock, plus all the retirements from scared Republicans

You misspelled dirty

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 24, 2018 04:00 PM (lKyWE)

154 130 "OT, did you all see Macron kissing Melania's hand this morning? o la la..Frenchmen do have a certain flair to them.
Posted by: IC

Did he go all Pepe le Pew?
Posted by: WisRich at April 24, 2018 03:59 PM (G0vdT)

Should've went all Inner Thigh.

#WastedOpportunity

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 04:00 PM (fiGNd)

155 I kiss missus krakens' hand, occasionally, the palm....she really kinda likes that.....

Posted by: kraken at April 24, 2018 04:00 PM (zSVEm)

156 TheJamesMadison: "Did you know that Trump performed along the lines of what a generic Republican would do?"

Sure, I think Trump actually did and tries to do generic Republican stuff. The problem is that too many Republicans quit doing Republican stuff. Or delay it as to essentially be abandoning it until the next campaign. Or the next one after that. Most definitely the one after that.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 24, 2018 04:00 PM (H8S+R)

157 46 Shouldn't Macron's mom have taken care of that grooming matter before sonny showed up in the White House? What's the point of marrying your old teacher if she doesn't teach you the important stuff?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 24, 2018 03:33 PM (fqUgw)
..........

+++

I don't know how much good she'd do. She looks like a walking neurosis to me.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 24, 2018 04:00 PM (tcwn1)

158 If you watch The Big Bang, you may have noticed 'Chuck Lorre Productions Vanity Cards' There is an archive of them at www.chucklorre.com/index.php

I poked around a bit after looking and finding a specific one, and found this one:

"Arise dirtbags! Step out form the shadows and dtand proudly in the sunlight. Your craven misdeeds and unholy crimes matter no more. Every lie, every cheat and every betrayal has been forgiven. From pulpits across the land, your corruption has been sanctified. Go forth and behave despicably. And fear not the wrath of those you harm. In fact, accuse them of your crimes. Assign to them your slimy motives. And if all else fails, have your lawyers destroy them. Oh yes, dirtbags, it's a new world. It's your world. Squat down and defecate on it."
-- Chuck Lorre Productions, #586

It first aired on April 12, 2018, so it's not part of Hillary!'s coronation address. To whom do you think this is addressed?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 24, 2018 04:00 PM (ctuyM)

159 The Iraq war may have been a bad decision.

BUT

The Iraq peace was a terrible decision.

If we break the place, we do not own the place. PERIOD.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at April 24, 2018 04:00 PM (pw+jk)

160 152 I listened to Bob Menendez expressing his concerns about Pompeo. IMHO, he should get a 95% vote affirmation in the Senate. This is an outrage. If Pompeo isn't qualified, then no one is.
Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at April 24, 2018 03:59 PM (rdl6o)

===============

It seems pretty safe to say that this tactic of total obstruction will not be used by Republicans with the next Democratic president.

However, things can change, and precedent has been set.

How asked to live in interesting times? This is your fault.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 24, 2018 04:01 PM (9ZlHt)

161 I do not believe the Iraqi War was a mistake at all. Fortunately I do not have to point to all of the dire consequences of not overthrowing Saddam. Unfortunately I will never be able to prove those consequences would have happened.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 04:01 PM (t8kZU)

162 152 I listened to Bob Menendez expressing his concerns about Pompeo. IMHO, he should get a 95% vote affirmation in the Senate. This is an outrage. If Pompeo isn't qualified, then no one is.
Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at April 24, 2018 03:59 PM (rdl6o)

If we had real rule of law the Bobster would be in the Federal country club prison now. As it is he can have the grace to shut up and let his betters run the country.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at April 24, 2018 04:01 PM (RD7QR)

163 Steakless Thursdays must have been a real bitch.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:51 PM (fiGNd)

that brings back bad memories.

back in the 90s I came to HATE steak & lobster for dinner on the ship.

EVERY TIME we got screwed on where we were going.
Headed to Australia, steak & lobster, Cap'n on the 1MC - we're headed to Somalia.
Headed to Ankara, steak & lobster, Cap'n on the 1MC - we're headed to Somalia.
Headed to Hong Kong, steak & lobster, Cap'n on the 1MC - we're headed to the gulf.
lather, rinse, repeat.

took YEARS to get over that...

Posted by: Todler at April 24, 2018 04:01 PM (8D42x)

164 156 TheJamesMadison: "Did you know that Trump performed along the lines of what a generic Republican would do?"

Sure, I think Trump actually did and tries to do generic Republican stuff. The problem is that too many Republicans quit doing Republican stuff. Or delay it as to essentially be abandoning it until the next campaign. Or the next one after that. Most definitely the one after that.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 24, 2018 04:00 PM (H8S+R)

=============

I was a little unclear. Not in his behavior, but in vote totals.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 24, 2018 04:01 PM (9ZlHt)

165 #45 Woody Strode in Liberty Valance played Pompi.
key scene in which Pompi sits outside poles during election day not allowed to vote as were those days.

Posted by: exile at April 24, 2018 04:01 PM (WX+x0)

166 Chuck Lorre sounds like a hysterical cat lady....

Posted by: kraken at April 24, 2018 04:01 PM (zSVEm)

167 O/T...

Fuck the Drudge Report.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 04:02 PM (jjaLl)

168 That gift to the Democrats from the Leftist judges probably will give them a few seats from collar counties.

Posted by: Skip at April 24, 2018 04:03 PM (aC6Sd)

169 Drudge now self identifies as a 2$ hooker...

Posted by: kraken at April 24, 2018 04:03 PM (zSVEm)

170 Should've went all Inner Thigh.
#WastedOpportunity
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 04:00 PM

Pro tip: The popliteal region is incredibly underutilized, and appreciated greatly.

Posted by: Paolo at April 24, 2018 04:03 PM (ctuyM)

171 163 Posted by: Todler at April 24, 2018 04:01 PM (8D42x)

The wife and I never got steak and lobster in the Army....

"just saying"...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 04:03 PM (SzZnW)

172 Speaking of the French...
I saw the PC Matic Band open for James Taylor at the My Pillow warehouse last weekend.

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2018 04:03 PM (HgMAr)

173 So I bing-ed Macron's wife.

Holy Jane Fonda, Batman.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2018 04:04 PM (+lOpA)

174 I do not believe the Iraqi War was a mistake at all. Fortunately I do not have to point to all of the dire consequences of not overthrowing Saddam. Unfortunately I will never be able to prove those consequences would have happened.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 04:01 PM (t8kZU)

There are NO right or wrong simple answers on the Iraq war. Not on whether we should have gone it or on the Tactics and management after the "war". Life is never that simple and War is sure as fuck not that simple. And anyone who thinks they have all the answers is whistling Dixie thru a graveyard.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2018 04:04 PM (5y11N)

175 The lesson for me is that total war is the answer. Either fight to win and go home or don't bother fighting. Half measures just prolong the cost and the suffering. Fuck me. And God bless the american military.
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at April 24, 2018 03:55 PM (0OmEj)

Concur, which is why we need to get back to a Constitutional Basis for Declarations of War.

We should not be invading countries without a Declaration of war...

We should not be going to War, at the behest, of one Man... no matter who that Man is.

Posted by: Don Q. at April 24, 2018 04:04 PM (NgKpN)

176 I do not believe the Iraqi War was a mistake at all. Fortunately I do not have to point to all of the dire consequences of not overthrowing Saddam. Unfortunately I will never be able to prove those consequences would have happened.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 04:01 PM (t8kZU)

Removing regimes in the Middle East is the easy part. Replacing them with Democracy is the harder part.

Said it before, saying it again ... much better to replace a Dictator Gone Astray with a new Dictator Who Has His Mind Right.

Democracy isn't for ... well, anywhere. Shall we spin the globe and point out all the places where Democracy has gone Bad ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 04:04 PM (fiGNd)

177
I wouldn't be surprised if we lose the 9th here. Pub is being primaried and the dem has more money than both pubbies together. And all that steyer $$$$
Posted by: NCKate at April 24, 2018 03:55 PM (bCtf/)

There's a lot of lefty PAC money out there. Trump makes them as crazy as a crack monkey with a belly full of fire ants. The Donald can save this by getting out and shoring up the base but he's kinda busy right now. I'll get more worried about it after the choice of candidates is clearer.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at April 24, 2018 03:58 PM (RD7QR)

With the way that the GOPe has been shitting all over Trump, I'm thinking that a lot of them really don't want him campaigning for them at all. Which just gives them the excuse to blame him if they lose control of Congress.

I wish the modern GOP would put half as much effort into fighting with the Donks as they do stabbing the base in the back.

While I'm at it, I wish for a pony, a pickup truck full of supermodels and a billion dollars.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 24, 2018 04:05 PM (XWkhW)

178 Posted by: Todler at April 24, 2018 04:01 PM (8D42x)

The wife and I never got steak and lobster in the Army....

"just saying"...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 04:03 PM (SzZnW)

We got steak, lobster, crabs.......... for like the first few weeks of a 75 day patrol...... by the time we surfaced it was whole chunks of fish with the scales still on, in powdered milk.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 04:06 PM (jjaLl)

179 The wife and I never got steak and lobster in the Army....
"just saying"...Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 04:03 PM

Actually, you did.

They came in a can labeled "Ham and Lima Beans" for opsec purposes.

Posted by: Kilroy at April 24, 2018 04:06 PM (ctuyM)

180 one usually gets crabs in the Navy

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at April 24, 2018 04:06 PM (TXZiW)

181 Well we'll never be able to win a war until we are allowed to fight a war

Posted by: NCKate at April 24, 2018 04:06 PM (bCtf/)

182 Paul is acting like a typical libertarian here. No commonsense.

I was not a fan of the Iraq strategy either, but I would not going to spend endless time holding up current strategy over it. Unless the person is still a hard "Bush was right about everything" (not many of those left) I would not press it.

Remember Churchill and Gallipoli Campaign? I guess in WWII he should not have been British PM. /s

Posted by: William Eaton at April 24, 2018 04:07 PM (MuTTO)

183 180 one usually gets crabs in the Navy
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at April 24, 2018 04:06 PM (TXZiW)

It ain't gay when they're underway.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 04:07 PM (XMDuf)

184 So I bing-ed Macron's wife.
..........

Did Macron want to watch?

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2018 04:07 PM (HgMAr)

185 Or, maybe Rand Paul just postured himself into a corner and needed a face-saving way out. Whatever the case, at least we have a SecState. Now to get somebody at CIA.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at April 24, 2018 03:33 PM (RD7QR
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We can't even get our ambassador to Germany, Rick Grenell, confirmed or judges. Now our VA secretary, Dr. Ronny Jackson, is under attack. The Dems are vile, hateful, obstructionists and as Trump said earlier at this rate it will take 9 yrs. to get everyone confirmed.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 24, 2018 04:07 PM (PvFoN)

186 179 Posted by: Kilroy at April 24, 2018 04:06 PM (ctuyM)

Not old enough to have eaten C-rats in anything but OSUT....

shudder....

the horror the horror....

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 04:08 PM (SzZnW)

187 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 24, 2018 03:45 PM (9ZlHt)

Trump's favorability rating keeps nudging up and up.

Despite the full-throated screeching of the entire edifice of the Democrat-Media Complex.

Or, perhaps, because of it.

Posted by: filbert
******************

Once a person catches on to the Democrat Dodge Game they start seeing it. After they start seeing it they can't get away from it.
Another strike against the dems.

Posted by: gNewt at April 24, 2018 04:08 PM (dwNYN)

188
It first aired on April 12, 2018, so it's not part of Hillary!'s coronation address. To whom do you think this is addressed?
Posted by: Duncanthrax

What context is the quote from?

Is it just the title card or is it from another book/author/thing?

Sounds suspiciously like Chuck Palanuck-nick-nukkyfutz- the Fight Club turd.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2018 04:08 PM (LNPd9)

189 Bottom Line - Pompeo has to have Congress's support while entering into negotiations with Rocket Man. I can't believe Dems have politicized possible peace negotiations and are on the side of a fucking Syphilitic Slope. But, hey, Dems.

Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 04:08 PM (2LelM)

190 There are NO right or wrong simple answers on the Iraq war.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2018 04:04 PM (5y11N)

I beg to differ. I believe I found a "wrong one".

Posted by: George from TX ... call me "W" at April 24, 2018 04:08 PM (fiGNd)

191 While I'm at it, I wish for a pony, a pickup truck full of supermodels and a billion dollars.....
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 24, 2018 04:05 PM

Ford, Toyota, Chevy, GMC, Nissan, or (shudder) Ram?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 24, 2018 04:08 PM (ctuyM)

192 I do not believe the Iraqi War was a mistake at all. Fortunately I do not have to point to all of the dire consequences of not overthrowing Saddam. Unfortunately I will never be able to prove those consequences would have happened.

It wasn't a mistake. The mistake was going into Iraq before finishing the job in Afghanistan. Iraq was in violation of UN Resolution 1441, but being involved in two wars gives the Media, Democrats and GOPe more chances at criticizing a Republican administration. And the Bush administration never fought back against that criticism.
Besides, the UN has been about as effective as the League of Nations. It should be disbanded.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at April 24, 2018 04:08 PM (rdl6o)

193 178 Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 04:06 PM (jjaLl)

I empathize, your nick says you were stuck at close quarters for days on end too...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 04:09 PM (SzZnW)

194 one usually gets crabs in the Navy
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at April 24, 2018 04:06 PM (TXZiW)

Actually they were serving Crab Legs- real Crab Legs- At the Galley in NAS Meridian MS last Friday. Damn nice of them I thought

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2018 04:09 PM (5y11N)

195 Pompeo is a very intelligent and very fine candidate for S of S. I hope that the various corrupt and compromised politicians don't crater it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2018 04:09 PM (tpDAe)

196 It ain't gay when they're underway.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 04:07 PM (XMDuf)
---------------------------
That is a bit dated now.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 24, 2018 04:09 PM (5NMZN)

197 Did Macron want to watch?
Posted by: wth at April 24, 2018 04:07 PM (HgMAr)

He was out Bing-ing someone else. They have a French marriage.

Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2018 04:09 PM (+lOpA)

198 I loved my Tuna C-Rat. It was like Christmas if you got that instead of Turkey Loaf.

Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 04:10 PM (2LelM)

199 We got steak, lobster, crabs.......... for like the first few weeks of a 75 day patrol...... by the time we surfaced it was whole chunks of fish with the scales still on, in powdered milk.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 04:06 PM (jjaLl)

You guys got Powdered Milk ? Wow. Luxury.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 04:10 PM (fiGNd)

200 I beg to differ. I believe I found a "wrong one".
Posted by: George from TX ... call me "W" at April 24, 2018 04:08 PM (fiGNd)

Ok, that's kinda funny. Thanks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2018 04:10 PM (5y11N)

201 We can't even get our ambassador to Germany, Rick Grenell, confirmed or judges. Now our VA secretary, Dr. Ronny Jackson, is under attack. The Dems are vile, hateful, obstructionists and as Trump said earlier at this rate it will take 9 yrs. to get everyone confirmed.

Posted by: redridinghood
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Wasn't Grenell employed by the Clintons?

Posted by: gNewt at April 24, 2018 04:10 PM (dwNYN)

202 The biggest Iraq War mistake was putting Paul Bremer into a job a general should have been doing.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 24, 2018 04:11 PM (Eu5eZ)

203 Fuck the Drudge Report.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 04:02 PM (jjaLl)
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Afraid to look. What has F'*** Matt posted now?

Posted by: redridinghood at April 24, 2018 04:11 PM (PvFoN)

204 I'm awake now...to go after Trump's lawyer.

Posted by: Jeff Sessions at April 24, 2018 04:11 PM (r9UYA)

205 Cool, in denial
We're the cruel regulators voting
Pompeo Pompeo Pompe
Cool, in denial
We're the cruel regulators voting
Pompeo Pompeo Pompe

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 04:12 PM (NWiLs)

206 Hell, if I give it enough thought, I'm not sure it was the right thing to do to invade Morocco. Or Sicily, Italy, and Normandy.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at April 24, 2018 04:12 PM (tgT6k)

207 192 I do not believe the Iraqi War was a mistake at all. Fortunately I do not have to point to all of the dire consequences of not overthrowing Saddam. Unfortunately I will never be able to prove those consequences would have happened.

It wasn't a mistake. The mistake was going into Iraq before finishing the job in Afghanistan. Iraq was in violation of UN Resolution 1441, but being involved in two wars gives the Media, Democrats and GOPe more chances at criticizing a Republican administration. And the Bush administration never fought back against that criticism.
Besides, the UN has been about as effective as the League of Nations. It should be disbanded.
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Any grunt, after looking at topographic map will tell you, you will never finish Afghanistan. Never.

Iraq offered the flypaper where we could use our firepower and advanced sensors to kill AQ. The mistake was in bugging out.

Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 04:12 PM (2LelM)

208 With the way that the GOPe has been shitting all over Trump, I'm thinking that a lot of them really don't want him campaigning for them at all. Which just gives them the excuse to blame him if they lose control of Congress.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 24, 2018 04:05 PM
I think there needs to be a lot more contact from the base to the GOP saying "we voted for the platform you promised, Trump is trying to deliver on it, why aren't you? All that CoC money won't do you a bit of good on the outside looking in"

Posted by: Downcast at April 24, 2018 04:12 PM (D7tbl)

209 207. That's precisely WHY TFG was against the war in Iraq and wanted to focus on Afghanistan.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 24, 2018 04:13 PM (fA1SL)

210 The biggest Iraq War mistake was putting Paul Bremer into a job a general should have been doing.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 24, 2018 04:11 PM (Eu5eZ)

Managing personnel is just one of my many skills. That ... and public speaking. And strategery. I'm a great strategerist.

Don't forget Public Relations. I'm great at it. Learned it during my MBA.

Brownie ... you're doing a Hell of a job.

Posted by: George from TX ... call me "W" at April 24, 2018 04:14 PM (fiGNd)

211 Democracy isn't for ... well, anywhere. Shall we spin the globe and point out all the places where Democracy has gone Bad ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 04:04 PM (fiGNd)

The most reliable facet of democracy throughout history is,
"One vote one time"

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 24, 2018 04:14 PM (Eu5eZ)

212
209 207. That's precisely WHY TFG was against the war in Iraq and wanted to focus on Afghanistan.
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Gaylord loved to throw bombs. Unfortunately, we were always the target, never the head choppers.

Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 04:14 PM (2LelM)

213 TheJamesMadison: "I was a little unclear. Not in his behavior, but in vote totals."

Gotcha.

Yeah, coming home to vote is pretty standard given we have but two options. Even with Trump. But I truly have no idea what the mid-term will provide. I don't trust polls. I don't trust "news" except to know that it is ridiculously biased against the GOP. I don't trust our routinely fickle electorate particularly given my previous statement. And the GOPe has been fighting by old rules when Trump rules are needed; and they bristled at him being the people's representative.

I just know Hillary! and her crime syndicate will not be POTUS and that will have to do.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 24, 2018 04:15 PM (H8S+R)

214 "Drudge now self identifies as a 2$ hooker...
Posted by: kraken"

I stopped visiting Drudge about 5 years ago as he started getting worse than Gateway Pundit and InfoWars. Not regretting that decision.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 24, 2018 04:16 PM (OD2ni)

215 Iraq offered the flypaper where we could use our firepower and advanced sensors to kill AQ. The mistake was in bugging out.
Posted by: Gumby

Any understanding of the American public in regards to war and occupation would tell you one thing: this is not a war-loving populace.

It doesn't have the fortitude or interest in serious endevours that are required to see it through.

It was a mistake for that very fact alone.

but if i could wind the clock back further to '92, the whole affair could have been avoided if Daddy Bush simply minded the addage "If you strike at the king, be sure he dies."

Sadly, he didn't.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2018 04:16 PM (LNPd9)

216 109
10@10 - Winner Takes All. Master of the Universe.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 03:48 PM (xE5n0)

Sorry Sweetheart ... but Second Place is still just the First Loser.

Posted by: The Late Dale Earnhardt at April 24, 2018 03:49 PM (fiGNd)

Sorry SWEETHEART? Really? We treat Ettes' as professionals around here. its Ms. Sweetheart. Gees. Some people.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 04:16 PM (o7tuA)

217 Joe Manchin: Bringing West Virginia Values to Washington*

*During election season only. Other restrictions may apply.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 24, 2018 04:17 PM (ppaKI)

218 Oftentimes ... I thought about going Nuke-ular on the press. But then, I'd call Dad ... and he'd talk some sense into me. Like always.

Damnit Dick ... don't point that fucking shotgun this way again !!! Sure - sure it's not loaded.

Posted by: George from TX ... call me at April 24, 2018 04:17 PM (fiGNd)

219
26 Or, maybe Rand Paul just postured himself into a corner and needed a face-saving way out. Whatever the case, at least we have a SecState. Now to get somebody at CIA.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses

Or maybe he was telling the truth of why he decided to aye Pompeo.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at April 24, 2018 04:17 PM (IeDO8)

220 What context is the quote from?
Is it just the title card or is it from another book/author/thing?
Sounds suspiciously like Chuck Palanuck-nick-nukkyfutz- the Fight Club turd.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2018 04:08 PM

Apparently these are a 'trademark' for Lorre, and are displayed at the end of episodes of his productions (Big Bang, Dharma Greg, Grace Under Fire, and Cybill, among others).

My understanding is that they are shown for only a few seconds, so either you record and pause, or go to his website to read them. CBS has censored some of them, and the website shows both censored and uncensored versions.

Other than the above, present respondent knows nothing more.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 24, 2018 04:18 PM (ctuyM)

221
but if i could wind the clock back further to '92, the whole affair could have been avoided if Daddy Bush simply minded the addage "If you strike at the king, be sure he dies."

Sadly, he didn't.
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True. But this was caused by accepting Arab allies who did little to no fighting.

Posted by: Gumby at April 24, 2018 04:18 PM (2LelM)

222 Sorry SWEETHEART? Really? We treat Ettes' as professionals around here. its Ms. Sweetheart. Gees. Some people.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 04:16 PM (o7tuA)

Professional sweethearts are typically called "escorts."

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 04:18 PM (NWiLs)

223 Joe Manchin: Bringing West Virginia Values to Washington*

Ya mean you can have sex with your sister? Oh wait have you ever seen my sister. Ugh I think I just yacked

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2018 04:18 PM (5y11N)

224 The war wasn't a mistake - the mistake was in thinking you could turn a pack of arab barbarians into a functioning modern nation. And as screwed up as Iraq is today, at least it can only make war on itself - it'll be generations before it's able to make war on anybody else again.

We need to do that to Tehran. Not rebuild it, just destroy it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 24, 2018 04:18 PM (k1TUh)

225 Fuck the Drudge Report.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 04:02 PM (jjaLl)
******************
Afraid to look. What has F'*** Matt posted now?
Posted by: redridinghood

Stocks Tank on Earnings?
Or Migrant Caravan arriving at US border?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 04:18 PM (pQplJ)

226 Seems to me Drudge pushed Trump more than anyone, hell he was a major part of Trump's primary win. Now he wants to take him down. Hmm, build them up, then tear them down. Where have a heard that before? Oh yeah, the media. ok, now I get it.

Posted by: Quint at April 24, 2018 04:19 PM (n13/j)

227 223 Joe Manchin: Bringing West Virginia Values to Washington*

Ya mean you can have sex with your sister? Oh wait have you ever seen my sister. Ugh I think I just yacked
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2018 04:18 PM (5y11N)

Now, if your sister was, say, Kate Upton...

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 04:19 PM (NWiLs)

228 Wasn't Grenell employed by the Clintons?

Posted by: gNewt at April 24, 2018 04:10 PM (dwNYN)
***********
Was employed by G.W. Bush, is a Republican and a Trump supporter...
and if he had worked for the Clintons he would have been confirmed 11 mos. ago

Posted by: redridinghood at April 24, 2018 04:19 PM (PvFoN)

229 You go to war with the Democrats you have, not the Democrats you want.

*Hmmmmmm. (pulls chin in pundit thought mode)*

Come to think of it, W should *have* gone to war with the Democrats first, then Iraq.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 24, 2018 04:19 PM (0QYMt)

230 Yeah ... sure ... Iraq kinda' went sideways. Could have been worse, though.

At least that little mincing faggot brother of mine won't be president. Hey - just between you and me - is he a pole-smoker or what ? Heh. Heh.

Hey ... don't tell my Old Man I said that. OK ?

Posted by: George from TX ... call me at April 24, 2018 04:20 PM (fiGNd)

231 Stocks Tank on Earnings?

Or Migrant Caravan arriving at US border?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 04:18 PM (pQplJ)
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or Dandruff?

Posted by: RioBravo at April 24, 2018 04:20 PM (5NMZN)

232 I said back when that all we'd do in Iraq was push it the way of Yugoslavia and break it in three, and embolden Iran to hook up with the Iraqi shia. Which might have someday anyway but we made it a near certainty

But I'm an Ignoramus

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 24, 2018 04:20 PM (n+6mJ)

233 You know what?

NO PLASTIC BAGS!

Posted by: Andrew Cuomo at April 24, 2018 04:20 PM (ATVNj)

234 Posted by: Tom Servo at April 24, 2018 04:18 PM (k1TUh)

Don't disagree but I would have at least liked the chance to have been prvoven wrong. Obama made sure that Iraq never had that chance.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 04:21 PM (t8kZU)

235 231 Stocks Tank on Earnings?

Or Migrant Caravan arriving at US border?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 04:18 PM (pQplJ)
-------------------------------
or Dandruff?
Posted by: RioBravo at April 24, 2018 04:20 PM (5NMZN)

The heartbreak of psoriasis.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 04:21 PM (NWiLs)

236 >>>Come to think of it, W should *have* gone to war with the Democrats first, then Iraq.

I think the bombing and occupation of Martha's Vineyard would have been supported by at least 80% of the American people.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 24, 2018 04:21 PM (ppaKI)

237 74 70 Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 24, 2018 03:41 PM (8iiMU)

I prefer Steyn to Limbaugh.

Posted by: sven10077

I prefer Steyn to everyone. Present company excepted.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at April 24, 2018 04:21 PM (IeDO8)

238 I empathize, your nick says you were stuck at close quarters for days on end too...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 04:09 PM (SzZnW)

It wasn't bad..... we didn't have to hot rack, like the guys on the Fast Attacks.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 04:21 PM (jjaLl)

239 by the time we surfaced it was whole chunks of fish with the scales still on, in powdered milk.....
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 04:06 PM

Fresh fish is a treat, no question. Did you fish from the bridge, or from the hull?

Detonating an ADCAP two miles away, and netting the stunned fish on the surface was generally considered cheating.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 24, 2018 04:22 PM (ctuyM)

240 True. But this was caused by accepting Arab allies who did little to no fighting.
Posted by: Gumby

Yes, also true.

I've been wondering what would have happened if we didn't launch Desert Storm I.

I have a feeling that Sadaam would have eventually retreated back into Iraq after the world just told him to fucking stop it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2018 04:22 PM (LNPd9)

241 Posted by: Ignoramus at April 24, 2018 04:20 PM (n+6mJ)

And if we didn't do anything what was your prediction?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2018 04:22 PM (t8kZU)

242 Maybe you guys didn't hear me the first time because of the gunfire in the streets.

NO PLASTIC BAGS!

Posted by: Andrew Cuomo at April 24, 2018 04:22 PM (ATVNj)

243 After we kicked ass in Afghanistan we should never have gotten into nation building. Unless you like heroin there's nothing of value there. The planet Mars has more strategic value

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 24, 2018 04:23 PM (n+6mJ)

244 You guys got Powdered Milk ? Wow. Luxury.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 04:10 PM (fiGNd)

LOL......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 04:23 PM (jjaLl)

245 It wasn't bad..... we didn't have to hot rack, like the guys on the Fast Attacks.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 04:21 PM (jjaLl)

I used to pull the covers over Jebs head and give him a "hot rack", when Mom and Dad weren't looking.

Geez ... this Trump guys a real boil on my ass ... but Jeb ? Really ? Jeb ?

I've had some less than stellar ideas, but honestly ? Jeb ?

Posted by: George from TX ... call me at April 24, 2018 04:23 PM (fiGNd)

246 Professional sweethearts are typically called "escorts."

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 04:18 PM (NWiLs)

GG could escort me anytime, and I mean that with respect. I think shes probably hot. But don't tell her, it might go to her head and they'll be no living with her. But i'm probably not the first person to say that so....

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 04:23 PM (o7tuA)

247 Alright, you probably didn't hear me that last time because of that stampede of millions of people leaving New York State, so I'll say it one last time.

NO PLASTIC BAGS!

Posted by: Andrew Cuomo at April 24, 2018 04:24 PM (ATVNj)

248 GG could escort me anytime, and I mean that with respect. I think shes probably hot. But don't tell her, it might go to her head and they'll be no living with her. But i'm probably not the first person to say that so....
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 04:23 PM (o7tuA)

Laying it on kinda thick, ain't ya?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 04:24 PM (NWiLs)

249 237 I prefer Steyn to everyone. Present company excepted.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at April 24, 2018 04:21 PM (IeDO

I typically like Steyn, but sometimes he rambles.

I kind of prefer when Ken Matthews guests for Rush, but then, I get Ken locally every day anyway.

Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 04:24 PM (XMDuf)

250 I have a feeling that Sadaam would have eventually retreated back into Iraq after the world just told him to fucking stop it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2018 04:22 PM (LNPd9)

I doubt that. Kuwait was and is a huge Oil Storage tank and that means money and Saddam was short of money, way short.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2018 04:25 PM (5y11N)

251 Come to think of it, W should *have* gone to war with the Democrats first, then Iraq.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 24, 2018 04:19 PM (0QYMt)

I'm pretty sure Warthogs and Abrams aren't allowed to take the floor in Congress.

Posted by: X-ray at April 24, 2018 04:25 PM (Rrifi)

252 242
Maybe you guys didn't hear me the first time because of the gunfire in the streets.

NO PLASTIC BAGS!

Posted by: Andrew Cuomo at April 24, 2018 04:22 PM (ATVNj)

i laughed.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 04:25 PM (o7tuA)

253 This George guy from TX is damn funny

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 24, 2018 04:25 PM (5y11N)

254 Seems to me Drudge pushed Trump more than anyone, hell he was a major part of Trump's primary win. Now he wants to take him down. Hmm, build them up, then tear them down. Where have a heard that before? Oh yeah, the media. ok, now I get it.

Posted by: Quint at April 24, 2018 04:19 PM (n13/j)
******************

Drudge has really ticked me off. He is responsible for getting Trump elected. Did he start dating a major Lib.?

Posted by: redridinghood at April 24, 2018 04:25 PM (PvFoN)

255 After we kicked ass in Afghanistan we should never have gotten into nation building. Unless you like heroin there's nothing of value there. The planet Mars has more strategic value
Posted by: Ignoramus

By 'kicking ass' you mean invading Pokistan, right?

Again, another un-discussed thing for the GOPe: 9/11 was generated in Pokistan and the House of Saud.

Why are they still intact?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 24, 2018 04:25 PM (LNPd9)

256 Fresh fish is a treat, no question. Did you fish from the bridge, or from the hull?

Detonating an ADCAP two miles away, and netting the stunned fish on the surface was generally considered cheating.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 24, 2018 04:22 PM (ctuyM)

I know I'm alone here, got pulled of puter for work, but no, those nasty chunks of fish were frozen, last-resort type stuff..... Stunk the whole Ops Middle level up.... the smell of fish still makes me gag.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 04:26 PM (jjaLl)

257 254 Drudge has really ticked me off. He is responsible for getting Trump elected. Did he start dating a major Lib.?
Posted by: redridinghood at April 24, 2018 04:25 PM (PvFoN)

Cory Booker, maybe?

Posted by: Hikaru at April 24, 2018 04:26 PM (XMDuf)

258 NO PLASTIC BAGS!

Posted by: Andrew Cuomo at April 24, 2018 04:24 PM (ATVNj)

So you're out of ideas?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 24, 2018 04:26 PM (0QYMt)

259 222 Sorry SWEETHEART? Really? We treat Ettes' as professionals around here. its Ms. Sweetheart. Gees. Some people.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 04:16 PM (o7tuA)

Professional sweethearts are typically called "escorts."
Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 04:18 PM (NWiLs)

DM me when I'm by the pool.

Posted by: Katie Tur at April 24, 2018 04:26 PM (J567a)

260 Laying it on kinda thick, ain't ya?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 04:24 PM (NWiLs)

yeah...chick gorillas...can't help it.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 04:26 PM (o7tuA)

261 If Saddam acted up he could have been beaten into line without an invasion. Like we did to Quaddafi. He was a rational actor. Unlike the Iranian Mullahs

The first Gulf War started because our Ambassdor fucked up delivering a message

The world has changed because of fracking. But 99% of Americans have no idea who George Mitchell is

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 24, 2018 04:29 PM (n+6mJ)

262 Any woman that damn attached to her dog just ain't right.

Looking at you, Dana. Looking. At. You.

Posted by: George from TX ... call me W at April 24, 2018 04:29 PM (fiGNd)

263 The wife and I never got steak and lobster in the Army....

"just saying"...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2018 04:03 PM (SzZnW)

did you get "surprise deployed"? that was the give away that something bad was happening.

Posted by: Todler at April 24, 2018 04:29 PM (8D42x)

264 And if I find any of you with a plastic bag, so help me Rachel Carson, I will come down from this throne and MAKE ANOTHER SPEECH ABOUT PLASTIC BAGS!

Posted by: Andrew Cuomo at April 24, 2018 04:29 PM (ATVNj)

265 DM me when I'm by the pool.

Posted by: Katie Tur at April 24, 2018 04:26 PM (J567a)

LMAO...buncha ballbreakers.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 04:29 PM (o7tuA)

266 Seems to me Drudge pushed Trump more than anyone, hell he was a major part of Trump's primary win. Now he wants to take him down. Hmm, build them up, then tear them down. Where have a heard that before? Oh yeah, the media. ok, now I get it.

Posted by: Quint <<<

It's just clicks baby, just clicks.

Posted by: Big Daddy at April 24, 2018 04:29 PM (dwNYN)

267 Any grunt, after looking at topographic map will tell you, you will never finish Afghanistan. Never.

My choice of words was poor. From my understanding we let Osama bin Laden escape into Pakistan, that one mullah escape on a motorbike, and we had the chance to vaporize 150 of them while they attended a funeral. Trying to micromanage a war via Rules of Engagement was a mistake. If you're unwilling to kill at every opportunity because of collateral damage, you'll never achieve your objectives, which is kill all the bad guys.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at April 24, 2018 04:30 PM (rdl6o)

268 Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 24, 2018 04:26 PM

I knew I should have put a ;-) at the end, but I thought the ADCAP might give it away.

OTOH, boomer riders aren't known for the madcap humor and overall elan that their fast attack brethren possess. But, hey, somebody's got to go sail in circles.

;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 24, 2018 04:30 PM (ctuyM)

269 LMAO...buncha ballbreakers.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 04:29 PM (o7tuA)

You have no idea.

I only used "Condey" in press conferences, and whenever the Secret Service were RREEAALL close.

Posted by: George from TX ... call me W at April 24, 2018 04:31 PM (fiGNd)

270 E's Christy's older brother.

Posted by: Big Daddy at April 24, 2018 04:31 PM (dwNYN)

271 The big Kuwait oil field is 90% in Iraq and Saddam was tired of the Kuwaitis drinking his milk shake dry. He had a point

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 24, 2018 04:32 PM (n+6mJ)

272 260 Laying it on kinda thick, ain't ya?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2018 04:24 PM (NWiLs)

yeah...chick gorillas...can't help it.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 04:26 PM (o7tuA)

Just got back...is this about me? It has to be...unless Gorilla Pundit is doing some kind of trans thing.

Must scroll up and see if my gg honor has been impugned in my absence. BRB

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 04:33 PM (xE5n0)

273 Uh oh.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 04:34 PM (o7tuA)

274 Should have said 100% in Iraq and the Kuwaitis were doing slant drilling

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 24, 2018 04:34 PM (n+6mJ)

275 So listen i gotta go. Later all.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 04:34 PM (o7tuA)

276 We should have invaded Denmark at the same time we went into Afghanistan.

See, if you want to turn Afghanistan into Denmark, you need a whole bunch of Danes to put there.
Where else are you gonna find them but in Denmark?

Of course, there's still the problem of the Afghans.
You need to remove them without getting all genocidal.

Fortunately, there is now an empty country in Denmark.
You can put them there.
And no one can criticize you because all of the Righteous Ones agree that people from sh*tholes should go to Denmark or such.

Voila! You have solved the Afghanistan problem!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 24, 2018 04:35 PM (0jtPF)

277 So listen i gotta go. Later all.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 24, 2018 04:34 PM

Faint heart ne'er won fair simian cardiac flesh.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 24, 2018 04:36 PM (ctuyM)

278 When children are strapped with bombs and detonated in the streets and women are chattel, there are no innocent bystanders.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2018 04:38 PM (xxW3N)

279 Voila! You have solved the Afghanistan problem!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 24, 2018 04:35 PM

Jee bus. Simple. Brilliant.

We want this.
We'll settle for Pompeo.
We got Horseface and James Taylor.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 24, 2018 04:38 PM (ctuyM)

280 Apparently there's a nood, and no one called the beavers.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 24, 2018 04:40 PM (ctuyM)

281 Nood

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2018 04:40 PM (pQplJ)

282 Hahahaha

Yes, I messed with the #1 place honor to see how upset people would get about it...as it is held so sacred. Then I get the sarcastic "listen sweetheart". But I had to leave. One poster of true blue Horde material corrected him to Ms. Sweetheart, for proper 'ette protocol.

Then another Eeyore member got pissy and said that meant I was a slut for hire. I'm paraphrasing all this. Which is strange, bcz I called Eeyore Mr., earlier today. So I guess he just got his panties in a twist. Or, by calling him Mr., he sees himself as a Paolo for hire.

Unfortunately, I had left during all this folderol and was not able to join in the fun. But in a day full of drudgery and deadlines, I am thankful for a little levity. And get that Klingon Blood wine ready baby!

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 24, 2018 04:47 PM (xE5n0)

283 100 Am I the only one versed in the Fine Military Tradition of talking shit about the Air Farce ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 24, 2018 03:48 PM (fiGNd)

Well, *I* was taught it was mean to make fun of retards.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at April 24, 2018 04:52 PM (2kiKp)

284 Posted by: Todler at April 24, 2018 04:01 PM (8D42x)

Surf and Turf was *always* looked upon suspiciously.

Kinda like Taco Tuesday, but for different reasons.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at April 24, 2018 04:55 PM (2kiKp)

285 I see the anti-gun vandals are going after NRA lobbyist Chris Cox's wife and her business.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 24, 2018 05:16 PM (kX6Uw)

286 Frankly, the Iraq War WAS a bad idea in hindsight.

That's not to say the rationale for the war was wrong, but in hindsight, the execution was flawed, and we may not have been able to execute it the way we may have needed to. All the shit that came from that war has not remotely been worth it. Iraq is still a shithole. And we allowed the region to become a mess and allowed Iran to be more of a problem than they were before.

Rationale was solid, outcome was not worth it, either blood, treasure, or bad PR.

Posted by: deadrody at April 24, 2018 05:17 PM (1lnp9)

287 Geez, you'd think Chad Pergram could find a more polite way to address an audience than by calling them "Coons". He's gonna get e-mails......

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 24, 2018 05:32 PM (rznWS)

288 Why doesn't Trump nominate Hillary for SecState ?? She did a great job before and would fix all the problems that Trump created.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 24, 2018 07:11 PM (qM84C)

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