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Rosenstein Claims (Like Comey Did Before Him) That Trump Is Not the "Target" of Muller's and the DOJ's Probe Into Cohen;
Guiliani Joins Trump Legal Team to Try to "Negotiate" an End to the Mueller Probe
As for the former: I don't believe it, and prosecutors lie a lot about whether you're a target or not.
I think they're trying to catch Cohen on some charges to get him to flip on Trump about RUSSIAN collusion. So Trump isn't the immediate target, but he is the ultimate one. As to the latter: It's a bad idea. It signals vulnerability and will just encourage them. Prosecutors only negotiate plea deals to spare them the use of some resources in some cases. When a prosecutor has unlimited resources, and when he's a partisan hunting the biggest of big game, why would he "negotiate" anything? Even if he comes up with nothing, he gains something by just keeping this shit-show going for years and years. He ties down the president, his political enemy.BREAKING: A now criminal referral for Andy McCabe from OIG - and Rosenstein says the Cohen inquiry is not about Trump. Ken Starr EXCLUSIVE tonight .@TheStoryFNC .@edhenry
— Martha MacCallum (@marthamaccallum) April 19, 2018
BREAKING w/ @jdawsey1: Giuliani tells WashPost that he is joining Trump’s legal team to ‘negotiate an end’ to Mueller probe https://t.co/A7t0dZOdw3
— Robert Costa (@costareports) April 19, 2018
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Posted by: A dude in MI at April 19, 2018 05:34 PM (CDETr)
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Posted by: Panhandler at April 19, 2018 05:37 PM (ILwW3)
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Mueller has nothing to do with Cohen. They deftly handed that off to the Second District.
This will just be a tag team.
This will just be a tag team.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 19, 2018 05:37 PM (MCEwl)
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If only the president had a stock phrase for this situation.
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at April 19, 2018 05:37 PM (hrAj1)
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Trump could be willing to let all those Donks skate to get a clean bill of health...
I'd rather he not do so, but I could see that deal being silently made.
I'd rather he not do so, but I could see that deal being silently made.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2018 05:37 PM (SzZnW)
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As for the former: I don't believe it, and prosecutors lie a lot about whether you're a target or not.
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That's the whole point of having the categories of target and subject. So they can deceive without actually telling a falsehood. In our vernacular, lying scumbags. But, in those fine halls of justice, you just didn't listen carefully enough to their weasel words.
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That's the whole point of having the categories of target and subject. So they can deceive without actually telling a falsehood. In our vernacular, lying scumbags. But, in those fine halls of justice, you just didn't listen carefully enough to their weasel words.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 05:37 PM (pvjTE)
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I wouldn't believe Rosenstein if he was on fire and yelled "I'm on fire".
I wouldn't out him out either. Because he's a liar.
I wouldn't out him out either. Because he's a liar.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 19, 2018 05:38 PM (S4VYa)
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Top ten?
Posted by: Surfperch at April 19, 2018 05:38 PM (J7NdS)
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I can't stick around for the discussion but find the word "negotiate" incredibly troubling. No, after the past 18 months I find that word infuriating.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 19, 2018 05:38 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: golfman at April 19, 2018 05:38 PM (If3tB)
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Top ten, again.
Posted by: James Sheldon at April 19, 2018 05:38 PM (gLylO)
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Negotiate? Give us hILLRY and Obuttma on a platter, then we'll talk.
Posted by: wth at April 19, 2018 05:39 PM (HgMAr)
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Only negotiation should be. "You guys have nothing and you know there is nothing there. End it now and we won't run your reputations even further into the mud than what they already are."
Posted by: buzzion at April 19, 2018 05:39 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: LGoPs at April 19, 2018 05:39 PM (S4VYa)
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Trump could be willing to let all those Donks skate to get a clean bill of health...
I'd rather he not do so, but I could see that deal being silently made.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2018 05:37 PM (SzZnW)
Run the contrary out in your head.
Were does it end?
Good to see you around Sven...
I'd rather he not do so, but I could see that deal being silently made.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2018 05:37 PM (SzZnW)
Run the contrary out in your head.
Were does it end?
Good to see you around Sven...
Posted by: golfman at April 19, 2018 05:40 PM (If3tB)
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No they aren't after President Trump just everyone around him.
They all would be happy as pigs in the mud if he won reelection.
( rolls eyes)
They all would be happy as pigs in the mud if he won reelection.
( rolls eyes)
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2018 05:40 PM (aC6Sd)
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I think they're trying to catch Cohen on some charges to get him to flip on Trump about RUSSIAN collusion. So Trump isn't the immediate target, but he is the ultimate one.
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I disagree with you there. If they were after Russian collusion, Mueller would be handling Cohen. They are after something like a fraud on the courts. These NDAs are going to be portrayed as somehow sketchy and not strictly on the up and up. They will want Cohen to say that Trump was in on the whole deal and personally knew that Cohen was breaking the law to set these deals up.
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I disagree with you there. If they were after Russian collusion, Mueller would be handling Cohen. They are after something like a fraud on the courts. These NDAs are going to be portrayed as somehow sketchy and not strictly on the up and up. They will want Cohen to say that Trump was in on the whole deal and personally knew that Cohen was breaking the law to set these deals up.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 05:40 PM (pvjTE)
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If he is not the target why does Trump want Mueller to stop getting convictions?
Posted by: Sure at April 19, 2018 05:39 PM (gerjZ)
How many convictions has Mueller gotten?
If he is not the target why does Trump want Mueller to stop getting convictions?
Posted by: Sure at April 19, 2018 05:39 PM (gerjZ)
How many convictions has Mueller gotten?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 19, 2018 05:40 PM (UBzPO)
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First you will blow me
Posted by: Marcus T at April 19, 2018 05:40 PM (MCEwl)
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Who knows?
Posted by: The Shadow at April 19, 2018 05:40 PM (ctuyM)
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They're SHINING Trump on with this bullshit. They're telling President Trump he's not a/the target to BUY TIME and prevent him from firing their asses.
They're SHINING Trump on with this bullshit. They're telling President Trump he's not a/the target to BUY TIME and prevent him from firing their asses.
Posted by: Fake News at April 19, 2018 05:41 PM (tFDiW)
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This Game of Thrones docu-drama needs a larger cast and more double agents.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 19, 2018 05:41 PM (roQNm)
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And if there are riots? I say bring it. the rule of law is already in tatters and threatening to riot only makes things worse.
Bring the riots and then put them down. Brutally.
Bring the riots and then put them down. Brutally.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 19, 2018 05:41 PM (S4VYa)
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Negotiate what? Trump won't pardon anyone currently under indictment, and Mueller closes the investigation?
Posted by: josephistan at April 19, 2018 05:41 PM (ANIFC)
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I wish PDT would hire Alan Dershowitz for the obvious reasons and to set the Collective Left's hair on fire, but mostly to set the Collective Left's hair on fire.
Posted by: ShainS at April 19, 2018 05:41 PM (0mYEj)
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 19, 2018 05:41 PM (hMwEB)
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I'm through with trying to figure out what is going on..... from now on, my opinion on any subject is going to be the last thing I read about it.
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 19, 2018 05:42 PM (5AVMW)
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By talking about "negotiating an end" you are putting that thought in people heads even if they disagree.
They start with:
"I'll never negotiate and end!" And they sound unreasonable.
Then they say:
"I'll negotiate the end!" And then the vice tightens. And so on and so forth.
They start with:
"I'll never negotiate and end!" And they sound unreasonable.
Then they say:
"I'll negotiate the end!" And then the vice tightens. And so on and so forth.
Posted by: Max Power at April 19, 2018 05:42 PM (q177U)
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There is no RussianCollusion.
Posted by: golfman at April 19, 2018 05:42 PM (If3tB)
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This is so stupid.
The whole point of Mueller's bullshit fake investigation is to DIG, DIG, DIG and ENTRAP, ENTRAP, ENTRAP until they put together charges on President Trump for Obstruction of Justice and Campaign Finance Fraud.
This is so stupid.
The whole point of Mueller's bullshit fake investigation is to DIG, DIG, DIG and ENTRAP, ENTRAP, ENTRAP until they put together charges on President Trump for Obstruction of Justice and Campaign Finance Fraud.
Posted by: Fake News at April 19, 2018 05:42 PM (tFDiW)
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Trump's lawyers have been negotiating with Mueller for weeks now on how to end Trump's involvement in the investigation. Whether it would be a formal interview, a written list of questions, etc. If you remember Trump's lead attorney quit a few weeks ago because Trump insisted that he wanted to do a face to face interview and his lawyer didn't want him to.
I wouldn't read anything into him trading anything of substance as it pertains to the counter investigation.
I wouldn't read anything into him trading anything of substance as it pertains to the counter investigation.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 05:42 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 19, 2018 05:43 PM (r+sAi)
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This Game of Thrones docu-drama needs a larger cast and more double agents.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 19, 2018 05:41 PM (roQNm)
And way less clothing!!!
Wait, what?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 19, 2018 05:41 PM (roQNm)
And way less clothing!!!
Wait, what?
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 19, 2018 05:43 PM (5AVMW)
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Allow me a wee fantasy moment: Rudy to Mueller and Rosenstein "Wrap up you investigation and announce the truth of no collusion between Trump campaign and Russia now and we won't investigate and press charges for the illegal FISA warrant and Cohen office raid"
*keeping off the table all other crimes that pair has committed, like oh say aiding and abetting HRC after the fact on her selling all the (oh right just 'accidentally' getting hacked) classified information.
*keeping off the table all other crimes that pair has committed, like oh say aiding and abetting HRC after the fact on her selling all the (oh right just 'accidentally' getting hacked) classified information.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 19, 2018 05:43 PM (eASYU)
Posted by: Fake News at April 19, 2018 05:43 PM (tFDiW)
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It's turning into one big goatfark.
Posted by: wth at April 19, 2018 05:43 PM (HgMAr)
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The FBI "Cohen" procedure: "We need to go through all of your confidential a/c privileged emails and documents just to make sure you're clean. Because your name is the same as someone who once went to the Ukraine. Oh, oopsie. Lookie here!"
Posted by: LASue at April 19, 2018 05:43 PM (Z48ZB)
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Paging Jack Straw.
If you are still here, could you please clarify your last post in the last thread? There is some question about it.
If you are still here, could you please clarify your last post in the last thread? There is some question about it.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 19, 2018 05:44 PM (UXHfL)
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Negotiate an end is what somebody hitting Jennifer Lopez has to do.
Posted by: eleven at April 19, 2018 05:44 PM (zXtVg)
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Oh man, I will not be pleased if actual crimes are waved away so that ginned-up investigations can be halted.
That's not a trade for the American People, it's a trade for status-quo in the swamp.
That's not a trade for the American People, it's a trade for status-quo in the swamp.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 19, 2018 05:44 PM (z79tQ)
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15 Posted by: golfman at April 19, 2018 05:40 PM (If3tB)
As I said in the last post, the end game if this goes to its conclusion is the Democrat electorate refusing to prosecute the democrats for these abuses.
It's all Moot anyway, I think Paul Ryan is going to try to pass Amigo Grande.
As I said in the last post, the end game if this goes to its conclusion is the Democrat electorate refusing to prosecute the democrats for these abuses.
It's all Moot anyway, I think Paul Ryan is going to try to pass Amigo Grande.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2018 05:44 PM (SzZnW)
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> Negotiate what? Trump won't pardon anyone currently under indictment, and Mueller closes the investigation?
My guess: they're negotiating whether Mueller drops the investigation and quietly fades away, or whether he joins McCabe in facing criminal charges.
My guess: they're negotiating whether Mueller drops the investigation and quietly fades away, or whether he joins McCabe in facing criminal charges.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 05:45 PM (Q7M5N)
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The end is near! The end is near!
Posted by: Octopussy at April 19, 2018 05:45 PM (78Vp/)
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Prediction: Trump Tower office will be raided, i.e., legally broken into by the corrupt fbi in the coming days. Or somewhere Trump-business related.
Prediction: Trump Tower office will be raided, i.e., legally broken into by the corrupt fbi in the coming days. Or somewhere Trump-business related.
Posted by: Fake News at April 19, 2018 05:45 PM (tFDiW)
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Dems: If Trump fires Mueller we impeach!
Congress: Let's think about passing a law saying Trump can't fire Mueller!
Trump: Rudy...
Rudy: Let's see what it will take for Mueller to quit.
Congress: Let's think about passing a law saying Trump can't fire Mueller!
Trump: Rudy...
Rudy: Let's see what it will take for Mueller to quit.
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at April 19, 2018 05:45 PM (hMwEB)
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My guess is the "negotiation" will end up protecting Mueller, Rosenstein and the Clintons from their part in the traitorous Uranium 1 scandal.
Posted by: Markon at April 19, 2018 05:46 PM (/3Msk)
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>>If you are still here, could you please clarify your last post in the last thread? There is some question about it.
The IG's report will come out. It's too late to stop it.
The IG's report will come out. It's too late to stop it.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 05:46 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Texian ette at April 19, 2018 05:46 PM (gou4q)
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Yeah, yeah, your not a target, were just going to raid your lawyers office because we found something hinky during our illigitimate investigation of your non-existent collusion with Russians...
Say hows about we have a surprise off the record, unrecorded interview?
When?
Oh well just pop on over sometime, itll be really quick, honest injun.
Say hows about we have a surprise off the record, unrecorded interview?
When?
Oh well just pop on over sometime, itll be really quick, honest injun.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 19, 2018 05:46 PM (2ySZn)
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 19, 2018 05:46 PM (UXHfL)
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Negotiate an end is what somebody hitting Jennifer Lopez has to do.
Posted by: eleven at April 19, 2018 05:44 PM (zXtVg)
............
I would recommend making a run for it. Go on the lam. Overseas. Change your identity. Then see a doctor about that shit.
Posted by: eleven at April 19, 2018 05:44 PM (zXtVg)
............
I would recommend making a run for it. Go on the lam. Overseas. Change your identity. Then see a doctor about that shit.
Posted by: wth at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM (HgMAr)
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Rudyard's g8t a point. Maybe Trump is laying out his terms.
Posted by: eleven at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM (zXtVg)
Posted by: filbert at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM (953wK)
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I've seen a few articles that mention that the Cohen stuff may be about taxi medallions and while I am 95% sure it's an attempt to go after Trump, well, let's just say I'll be over there collecting my winnings re: corruption and fraud with taxi medallions.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM (dEQP3)
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>>> 31 I wouldn't read anything into him trading anything of substance as it pertains to the counter investigation.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 05:42 PM (/tuJf)
yay
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 05:42 PM (/tuJf)
yay
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM (ecMDh)
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And if there are riots? I say bring it. the rule of law is already in tatters and threatening to riot only makes things worse.
Bring the riots and then put them down. Brutally.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 19, 2018 05:41 PM (S4VYa)
They ain't going there.
Bring the riots and then put them down. Brutally.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 19, 2018 05:41 PM (S4VYa)
They ain't going there.
Posted by: golfman at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM (If3tB)
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Trump's the target.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 05:48 PM (ptqGC)
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Remember when Mitch McConnell and John Boehner (maybe Ryan too) took impeachment of Obama off the table? Preemptively. Pretty much handing the fucker a blank check.
And this is how the Democrats repay the favor. Any Republican who doesn't see this is too fucking stupid to breathe let alone represent me.
I'd rather be represented by the Vichy French than these worms, because compared to these assholes the Vichy French were Lions.
And this is how the Democrats repay the favor. Any Republican who doesn't see this is too fucking stupid to breathe let alone represent me.
I'd rather be represented by the Vichy French than these worms, because compared to these assholes the Vichy French were Lions.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 19, 2018 05:48 PM (S4VYa)
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The IG's report will come out. It's too late to stop it.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 05:46 PM (/tuJf)
Much better! Your post said it wouldn't come out, and boy did that blind side me. Thank you for clarifying.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 05:46 PM (/tuJf)
Much better! Your post said it wouldn't come out, and boy did that blind side me. Thank you for clarifying.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 19, 2018 05:48 PM (UXHfL)
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That so-called Republican Memo already Blew The Lid Off of this fake investigation and it had ZERO EFFECT on all the corrupt actors involved, especially Rosenstein and Mueller.
Trump IS the Target.
Trump IS the Target.
Trump IS the Target.
That so-called Republican Memo already Blew The Lid Off of this fake investigation and it had ZERO EFFECT on all the corrupt actors involved, especially Rosenstein and Mueller.
Trump IS the Target.
Trump IS the Target.
Trump IS the Target.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:48 PM (tFDiW)
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I think Paul Ryan is going to try to pass Amigo Grande.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2018 05:44 PM (SzZnW)
Yep. After Thanksgiving.
Trying to save SS.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2018 05:44 PM (SzZnW)
Yep. After Thanksgiving.
Trying to save SS.
Posted by: golfman at April 19, 2018 05:49 PM (If3tB)
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54 I've seen a few articles that mention that the Cohen stuff may be about taxi medallions and while I am 95% sure it's an attempt to go after Trump, well, let's just say I'll be over there collecting my winnings re: corruption and fraud with taxi medallions.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM (dEQP3)
And the taxi thing is a state matter, right? So Trump wouldn't be able to pardon him in that.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM (dEQP3)
And the taxi thing is a state matter, right? So Trump wouldn't be able to pardon him in that.
Posted by: josephistan at April 19, 2018 05:49 PM (ANIFC)
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58 Posted by: LGoPs at April 19, 2018 05:48 PM (S4VYa)
"Impeachment is just for Republicans"
//US History Honors textbook
"Impeachment is just for Republicans"
//US History Honors textbook
Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2018 05:49 PM (SzZnW)
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Lock the office Now. Fire Mueller Now. But lock him and his team of leftist lawyers out of that office now!!
Lock the office Now. Fire Mueller Now. But lock him and his team of leftist lawyers out of that office now!!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:49 PM (tFDiW)
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61 Posted by: golfman at April 19, 2018 05:49 PM (If3tB)
"save Soc Sec" by destroying the nation and GOP....
"save Soc Sec" by destroying the nation and GOP....
Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2018 05:50 PM (SzZnW)
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Rudy's a pretty smart guy. He's been around the block a couple of times.
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 05:50 PM (ecMDh)
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Because Mueller's criminally tied to the FISA mess and/or Flynn frame and he's got nothing. Go away or I'll thrash you is a negotiation.
Posted by: DaveA at April 19, 2018 05:50 PM (FhXTo)
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58 Remember when Mitch McConnell and John Boehner (maybe Ryan too) took impeachment of Obama off the table? Preemptively. Pretty much handing the fucker a blank check.
And this is how the Democrats repay the favor. Any Republican who doesn't see this is too fucking stupid to breathe let alone represent me.
I'd rather be represented by the Vichy French than these worms, because compared to these assholes the Vichy French were Lions.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 19, 2018 05:48 PM (S4VYa)
The Vichy French actually fought. Sure, they were fighting the Allies, but they did fight.
And this is how the Democrats repay the favor. Any Republican who doesn't see this is too fucking stupid to breathe let alone represent me.
I'd rather be represented by the Vichy French than these worms, because compared to these assholes the Vichy French were Lions.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 19, 2018 05:48 PM (S4VYa)
The Vichy French actually fought. Sure, they were fighting the Allies, but they did fight.
Posted by: josephistan at April 19, 2018 05:50 PM (ANIFC)
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When a prosecutor has unlimited resources, and when he's a partisan
hunting the biggest of big game, why would he "negotiate" anything?
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I can hope the negotiation is something along the lines of "Mr Mueller, here's some of what we know we can prove about you and here's how long you're going away for if you don't do us a favor and go away now".
hunting the biggest of big game, why would he "negotiate" anything?
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I can hope the negotiation is something along the lines of "Mr Mueller, here's some of what we know we can prove about you and here's how long you're going away for if you don't do us a favor and go away now".
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2018 05:51 PM (XQvuQ)
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Ignore these Empty Threats from Democrats and Cucks.
Ignore these Empty Threats from Democrats and Cucks.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:51 PM (tFDiW)
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John Edwards already skating on paying off his mistress with campaign funds.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 19, 2018 05:51 PM (1ISKN)
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As said on the last post - put Rosenpenis in prison for lying to Trump about not being a 'target' when everybody fucking knows he is the target.
Or is it really a crime to lie when everybody should know it is a lie.
Or is it really a crime to lie when everybody should know it is a lie.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2018 05:51 PM (V1D0R)
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Lock the office Now. Fire Mueller Now. But lock him and his team of leftist lawyers out of that office now!!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:49 PM (tFDiW)
That'll do it. They can't find the emails on Carlos Danger's computer. There's no way they can get past a lock.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:49 PM (tFDiW)
That'll do it. They can't find the emails on Carlos Danger's computer. There's no way they can get past a lock.
Posted by: golfman at April 19, 2018 05:52 PM (If3tB)
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And the taxi thing is a state matter, right? So Trump wouldn't be able to pardon him in that.
Posted by: josephistan at April 19, 2018 05:49 PM (ANIFC)
And would explain why the NY state folks are involved and not Mueller. But what could Mueller have found in his investigation involving a taxi medallion issue that would be enuf to get the warrant (not that the bar seems very high anymore)?
Posted by: josephistan at April 19, 2018 05:49 PM (ANIFC)
And would explain why the NY state folks are involved and not Mueller. But what could Mueller have found in his investigation involving a taxi medallion issue that would be enuf to get the warrant (not that the bar seems very high anymore)?
Posted by: LASue at April 19, 2018 05:52 PM (Z48ZB)
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I am a little bit baffled by this turn of events.
What exactly is there to be negotiated exactly?
Negotiations are a give and take proposition where someone gives to get.
What could each party give and what is there to get?
Again, baffling
What exactly is there to be negotiated exactly?
Negotiations are a give and take proposition where someone gives to get.
What could each party give and what is there to get?
Again, baffling
Posted by: Kreplach at April 19, 2018 05:52 PM (2ySZn)
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54 I've seen a few articles that mention that the Cohen stuff may be about taxi medallions and while I am 95% sure it's an attempt to go after Trump, well, let's just say I'll be over there collecting my winnings re: corruption and fraud with taxi medallions.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM (dEQP3)
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That sounds like one of those heads I win, tails you lose kind of predictions. You wouldn't make that kind of argument, would you?
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM (dEQP3)
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That sounds like one of those heads I win, tails you lose kind of predictions. You wouldn't make that kind of argument, would you?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 05:52 PM (pvjTE)
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Federal agents and prosecutors are used to lying with impunity, and jailing any of their victims who does the same. Given that the target(s) are largely also federal officials, I wonder if Trump could reverse it and get Mueller and his cronies charged for lying to federal officials under 18 USC 1001.
After Scooter Libby and General Flynn, it doesn't even take more than he said/she said to toss 'em in the pokey. So let's start tossing these deep staters in the pokey.
After Scooter Libby and General Flynn, it doesn't even take more than he said/she said to toss 'em in the pokey. So let's start tossing these deep staters in the pokey.
Posted by: Rather Not at April 19, 2018 05:52 PM (oPogG)
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71 Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 19, 2018 05:51 PM (1ISKN)
"It's different, BECAUSE racist."
//AP Civics textbook
"It's different, BECAUSE racist."
//AP Civics textbook
Posted by: sven10077 at April 19, 2018 05:52 PM (SzZnW)
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John Edwards already skating on paying off his mistress with campaign funds.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 19, 2018 05:51 PM (1ISKN)
Heh. Skumbag bitch. Both of them.
There is a special place for him.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 19, 2018 05:51 PM (1ISKN)
Heh. Skumbag bitch. Both of them.
There is a special place for him.
Posted by: golfman at April 19, 2018 05:53 PM (If3tB)
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And the taxi thing is a state matter, right? So Trump wouldn't be able to pardon him in that.
Posted by: josephistan at April 19, 2018 05:49 PM (ANIFC)
Unless they go for RICO.
Many, many years ago Old Firm had a case where our client was a cab driver in NYC and he had a taxi medallion and I asked him one day about how he got it and oh my stars and garters did I feel like a particularly sheltered Amish child when he told me how the process really works.
Posted by: josephistan at April 19, 2018 05:49 PM (ANIFC)
Unless they go for RICO.
Many, many years ago Old Firm had a case where our client was a cab driver in NYC and he had a taxi medallion and I asked him one day about how he got it and oh my stars and garters did I feel like a particularly sheltered Amish child when he told me how the process really works.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:53 PM (dEQP3)
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>>Rudy's a pretty smart guy. He's been around the block a couple of times.
It was also Rudy and Eric Prince, who Mueller not so coincidentally targeted for a meeting he had in the Seychelles DURING THE TRANSITION, who forced the FBI to go public with the Weiner laptop because they were tipped off by their contacts in the NYPD.
It's likely Rudy knows a good deal of what is on that laptop.
It was also Rudy and Eric Prince, who Mueller not so coincidentally targeted for a meeting he had in the Seychelles DURING THE TRANSITION, who forced the FBI to go public with the Weiner laptop because they were tipped off by their contacts in the NYPD.
It's likely Rudy knows a good deal of what is on that laptop.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 05:53 PM (/tuJf)
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Yup, same fucking idiots who say Trump would be obstructing justice if he fired are saying he is not a target in the Cohen thing.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2018 05:53 PM (V1D0R)
83
I am a little bit baffled by this turn of events.
What exactly is there to be negotiated exactly?
Negotiations are a give and take proposition where someone gives to get.
What could each party give and what is there to get?
Again, baffling
Posted by: Kreplach at April 19, 2018 05:52 PM (2ySZn)
Mr. Mueller:
Wrap this sucker up by Memorial Day or my feral and probably rabid Federal Attorney out in Utah comes after your ass. Bigly.
What exactly is there to be negotiated exactly?
Negotiations are a give and take proposition where someone gives to get.
What could each party give and what is there to get?
Again, baffling
Posted by: Kreplach at April 19, 2018 05:52 PM (2ySZn)
Mr. Mueller:
Wrap this sucker up by Memorial Day or my feral and probably rabid Federal Attorney out in Utah comes after your ass. Bigly.
Posted by: filbert at April 19, 2018 05:54 PM (953wK)
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I've seen a few articles that mention that the Cohen stuff may be about taxi medallions and while I am 95% sure it's an attempt to go after Trump, well, let's just say I'll be over there collecting my winnings re: corruption and fraud with taxi medallions.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM
In the days of Uber and the other ride-shares I have to imagine the value of taxi medallions is dropping like an anvil.
What corruption could you see in a failing enterprise?
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM
In the days of Uber and the other ride-shares I have to imagine the value of taxi medallions is dropping like an anvil.
What corruption could you see in a failing enterprise?
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 05:54 PM (LOgQ4)
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Question: If President Donald Trump isn't the target in Mueller's "investigation," THEN WHO FUCK IS??
Question: If President Donald Trump isn't the target in Mueller's "investigation," THEN WHO FUCK IS??
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:55 PM (tFDiW)
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That sounds like one of those heads I win, tails you lose kind of predictions. You wouldn't make that kind of argument, would you?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 05:52 PM (pvjTE)
Me? Attempting to have things both ways?
That doesn't sound like me at all!
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 05:52 PM (pvjTE)
Me? Attempting to have things both ways?
That doesn't sound like me at all!
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:55 PM (dEQP3)
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Unless they go for RICO.
Many, many years ago Old Firm had a case where our client was a cab driver in NYC and he had a taxi medallion and I asked him one day about how he got it and oh my stars and garters did I feel like a particularly sheltered Amish child when he told me how the process really works.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:53 PM (dEQP3
NYC taxis roll between states, no doubt.
Unless they go for RICO.
Many, many years ago Old Firm had a case where our client was a cab driver in NYC and he had a taxi medallion and I asked him one day about how he got it and oh my stars and garters did I feel like a particularly sheltered Amish child when he told me how the process really works.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:53 PM (dEQP3
NYC taxis roll between states, no doubt.
Posted by: golfman at April 19, 2018 05:56 PM (If3tB)
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Question: If President Donald Trump isn't the target in Mueller's "investigation," THEN WHO FUCK IS??
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:55 PM (tFDiW)
Us. Because we elected him.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:55 PM (tFDiW)
Us. Because we elected him.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 19, 2018 05:56 PM (S4VYa)
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It's likely Rudy knows a good deal of what is on that laptop.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 05:53 PM
One of the few times I've seen Sid Vicious Blumentahal open his mouth ( in Europe for whatevah reason ) is about how 'Rudys crew' has fvcked him with the laptop impoundment.
Big tell.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 05:53 PM
One of the few times I've seen Sid Vicious Blumentahal open his mouth ( in Europe for whatevah reason ) is about how 'Rudys crew' has fvcked him with the laptop impoundment.
Big tell.
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 05:56 PM (LOgQ4)
90
Question: If President Donald Trump isn't the target in Mueller's "investigation," THEN WHO FUCK IS??
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:55 PM (tFDiW)
This is similar to when a wife is killed and the police say the husband is not a suspect, just a person of interest. Which means...he is a suspect.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:55 PM (tFDiW)
This is similar to when a wife is killed and the police say the husband is not a suspect, just a person of interest. Which means...he is a suspect.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 19, 2018 05:56 PM (UXHfL)
Posted by: NYPD at April 19, 2018 05:56 PM (Ymy4N)
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In the days of Uber and the other ride-shares I have to imagine the value of taxi medallions is dropping like an anvil.
What corruption could you see in a failing enterprise?
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 05:54 PM (LOgQ4)
Even before Uber there was the issue of black cabs in New York. It was a big thing. That was decades ago.
What corruption could you see in a failing enterprise?
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 05:54 PM (LOgQ4)
Even before Uber there was the issue of black cabs in New York. It was a big thing. That was decades ago.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 05:56 PM (7ieWW)
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taxi medallions are way down in value. wonder what the scam would be that would be worth the effort.
they are below $200k thanks to uber. they wee worth $500k in the 90s.
they are below $200k thanks to uber. they wee worth $500k in the 90s.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 05:57 PM (MTjB1)
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I get the feeling that Trump looks at negotiations the same way Contract Bridge players look at the bidding process that starts the hand.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse- I put the fish in chess at April 19, 2018 05:57 PM (roQNm)
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You think there are a lot of spineless cucks against President Trump now, just wait until indictments are issues. 95% of the Republicans in Congress will turn on the president.
You think there are a lot of spineless cucks against President Trump now, just wait until indictments are issues. 95% of the Republicans in Congress will turn on the president.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:57 PM (tFDiW)
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did I feel like a particularly sheltered Amish child when he told me how the process really works.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:53 PM (dEQP3)
Gun permits too.
My dad was denied for one when he applied normally. Then his buddy (a police surgeon) gave him the card for a lawyer who would "check his application for errors."
One large check later? He got the permit.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:53 PM (dEQP3)
Gun permits too.
My dad was denied for one when he applied normally. Then his buddy (a police surgeon) gave him the card for a lawyer who would "check his application for errors."
One large check later? He got the permit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 05:57 PM (wYseH)
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Roddy is a shit who signed the FISA warrant. I know I don't believe him.
Posted by: CN at April 19, 2018 05:57 PM (5gaNQ)
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>>>>I've seen a few articles that mention that the
Cohen stuff may be about taxi medallions and while I am 95% sure it's an
attempt to go after Trump, well, let's just say I'll be over there
collecting my winnings re: corruption and fraud with taxi medallions.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM
In the days of Uber and the other ride-shares I have to imagine the value of taxi medallions is dropping like an anvil.
What corruption could you see in a failing enterprise?
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 05:54 PM
.
.
.It ain't about the value of the medallions, it's about how they were acquired. And back in the day you got them in one of a few ways; inheritance, at auction for a million plus $$$$, or as a special "gift" from your very special friends in NYC Government for certain favors.
Cohen stuff may be about taxi medallions and while I am 95% sure it's an
attempt to go after Trump, well, let's just say I'll be over there
collecting my winnings re: corruption and fraud with taxi medallions.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 05:47 PM
In the days of Uber and the other ride-shares I have to imagine the value of taxi medallions is dropping like an anvil.
What corruption could you see in a failing enterprise?
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 05:54 PM
.
.
.It ain't about the value of the medallions, it's about how they were acquired. And back in the day you got them in one of a few ways; inheritance, at auction for a million plus $$$$, or as a special "gift" from your very special friends in NYC Government for certain favors.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 19, 2018 05:58 PM (+Dllb)
99
88 Question: If President Donald Trump isn't the target in Mueller's "investigation," THEN WHO FUCK IS??
The shelf elf
The shelf elf
Posted by: REDACTED at April 19, 2018 05:58 PM (Ymy4N)
100
54 I've seen a few articles that mention that the Cohen stuff may be about taxi medallions and while I am 95% sure it's an attempt to go after Trump, well, let's just say I'll be over there collecting my winnings re: corruption and fraud with taxi medallions.
Expect the Atty-Client info that is about PDT that was gathered from the Cohen raid to be leaked constantly over the upcoming months. It will be not only the Pres, but will include his kids DJT JR, Eric, and Ivanka about business transactions from years ago that could be embarrassing but not illegal. Like they built a hotel with some partners a decade ago who are not PC. Stuff like that.
Because this is how they roll, and have lickers like Andy Cooper to cover for them.
Expect the Atty-Client info that is about PDT that was gathered from the Cohen raid to be leaked constantly over the upcoming months. It will be not only the Pres, but will include his kids DJT JR, Eric, and Ivanka about business transactions from years ago that could be embarrassing but not illegal. Like they built a hotel with some partners a decade ago who are not PC. Stuff like that.
Because this is how they roll, and have lickers like Andy Cooper to cover for them.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 19, 2018 05:58 PM (UsCnO)
101
Question: If President Donald Trump isn't the target in Mueller's "investigation," THEN WHO FUCK IS??
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:55 PM (tFDiW)
PHONE!!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:55 PM (tFDiW)
PHONE!!
Posted by: Methos at April 19, 2018 05:58 PM (XQvuQ)
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Gun permits too.
My dad was denied for one when he applied normally. Then his buddy (a police surgeon) gave him the card for a lawyer who would "check his application for errors."
One large check later? He got the permit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April
the more things change
My dad was denied for one when he applied normally. Then his buddy (a police surgeon) gave him the card for a lawyer who would "check his application for errors."
One large check later? He got the permit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April
the more things change
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 05:58 PM (MTjB1)
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We took Uber everywhere we went in NYC (except the piss-smelling train a couple of times).
Our drivers were nice, and the cars were neat and clean.
Our drivers were nice, and the cars were neat and clean.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 05:59 PM (ptqGC)
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>>Gun permits too.
>>My dad was denied for one when he applied normally. Then his buddy (a police surgeon) gave him the card for a lawyer who would "check his application for errors."
>>One large check later? He got the permit.
Did you see the story about the NYC cop who is now talking and exposing that whole pay to shoot scam?
>>My dad was denied for one when he applied normally. Then his buddy (a police surgeon) gave him the card for a lawyer who would "check his application for errors."
>>One large check later? He got the permit.
Did you see the story about the NYC cop who is now talking and exposing that whole pay to shoot scam?
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 05:59 PM (/tuJf)
105
Non-swamp special prosecutor to go after Mewler's pals or cut your losses.
Posted by: dagny at April 19, 2018 05:59 PM (ahV/f)
106
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 05:57 PM (MTjB1)
I think one or two were sold for more than $1,300,000.
I think one or two were sold for more than $1,300,000.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 05:59 PM (wYseH)
107
Then again, Guillani is a RICO expert. Maybe he'll being investigating Team Mueller under the guise of 'negotiating'.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2018 06:00 PM (V1D0R)
108
> Because Mueller's criminally tied to the FISA mess and/or Flynn frame and he's got nothing. Go away or I'll thrash you is a negotiation.
Exactly. Except I would replace "thrash" with "join your crony McCabe in a Federal Pound Me In The Ass Penetentiary".
Exactly. Except I would replace "thrash" with "join your crony McCabe in a Federal Pound Me In The Ass Penetentiary".
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:01 PM (Q7M5N)
109
Corbyn Dallas wasn't available?
Posted by: DaveA at April 19, 2018 06:01 PM (FhXTo)
110
BREAKING: Giuliani joins Trump team to break it off in Mueller.
Posted by: gNewt at April 19, 2018 06:01 PM (Sc+fF)
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So what exactly is Mueller's justification for continuing?
Find potential old crimes of people Trump knows? That's now his official duty?
Eventually Mueller is going to turn up something stupid or someone may be willing to lie and implicate Trump in something to save their own skin.
Just letting Mueller keep fishing seems suicidal. And it looks like Congress is close to handing Mueller a backdoor blank check to start impeachment.
Fire Mueller now
Find potential old crimes of people Trump knows? That's now his official duty?
Eventually Mueller is going to turn up something stupid or someone may be willing to lie and implicate Trump in something to save their own skin.
Just letting Mueller keep fishing seems suicidal. And it looks like Congress is close to handing Mueller a backdoor blank check to start impeachment.
Fire Mueller now
Posted by: Maritime at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM (lKmt3)
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My dad was denied for one when he applied normally. Then his buddy (a police surgeon) gave him the card for a lawyer who would "check his application for errors."
One large check later? He got the permit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 05:57 PM
I had so many points on my drivers license that I was moments away from losing it. All bullshit charges I was found guilty of. I stuck a couple hundred bucks in an envelope and handed it to someone 'connected' in Harrisburg. Got my envelope back a week later, still full of cash.
The judge was pocketing my fines and finding me 'not guilty'.
The judge was taken away in irons.
One large check later? He got the permit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 05:57 PM
I had so many points on my drivers license that I was moments away from losing it. All bullshit charges I was found guilty of. I stuck a couple hundred bucks in an envelope and handed it to someone 'connected' in Harrisburg. Got my envelope back a week later, still full of cash.
The judge was pocketing my fines and finding me 'not guilty'.
The judge was taken away in irons.
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM (LOgQ4)
113
Thanks, Chuck! Schumer Says President Trump "Deserves" To Have His Picks Run Executive Agencies
I'm guessing it's more feeling the heat than seeing the light.
I'm guessing it's more feeling the heat than seeing the light.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM (+y/Ru)
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I think one or two were sold for more than $1,300,000.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April
lately? I know they were over $1million around 2013 but thought they had bottomed out around $200k. there was an article about some hedge fund buying them up.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April
lately? I know they were over $1million around 2013 but thought they had bottomed out around $200k. there was an article about some hedge fund buying them up.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM (MTjB1)
115
I wanted Giuliani involved all along.
Posted by: dagny at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM (ahV/f)
116
In the days of Uber and the other ride-shares I have to imagine the value of taxi medallions is dropping like an anvil.
What corruption could you see in a failing enterprise?
Posted by: Urethra Franklin
Unpaid taxes.
What corruption could you see in a failing enterprise?
Posted by: Urethra Franklin
Unpaid taxes.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM (+BxpP)
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I'm still not entirely sure who and what Rosenstein is all about in this tortuous affair.
He writes the letter recommending the firing of Comey.
He signs off on the FISA application for surveillance.
Is this just a D.C. swamp creature trying to play both ends against the middle? Or something else?
He writes the letter recommending the firing of Comey.
He signs off on the FISA application for surveillance.
Is this just a D.C. swamp creature trying to play both ends against the middle? Or something else?
Posted by: mainly spoons at April 19, 2018 06:03 PM (v6UKb)
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Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo has signed an executive order granting parolees the right to vote in NY. He just got a big thatta boy from ValJar and Rock the Vote.
His Twitter feed reads like a guy who has eaten too much of Sandra Lee's "food."
His Twitter feed reads like a guy who has eaten too much of Sandra Lee's "food."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:03 PM (ptqGC)
119
I could see a negotiation where Mueller agrees to end the investigation and Trump agrees not to throw him out of a helicopter.
Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2018 06:04 PM (sdi6R)
120
113 Thanks, Chuck! Schumer Says President Trump "Deserves" To Have His Picks Run Executive Agencies
I'm guessing it's more feeling the heat than seeing the light.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM (+y/Ru)
But from whom is he feeling the heat? I would be overjoyed to see Smarmy Schumer get what is no doubt coming to him, but certainly the IG won't do it.
I'm guessing it's more feeling the heat than seeing the light.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM (+y/Ru)
But from whom is he feeling the heat? I would be overjoyed to see Smarmy Schumer get what is no doubt coming to him, but certainly the IG won't do it.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 06:04 PM (ujg0T)
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Mueller is just running a harassment operation now. It's to box Trump in as much as possible, drive off his supporters, and inflict harm on them.
It will continue at least through the mid-terms. The only thing that would end it then is a serious beat-down on the Democrats at the polls.
It will continue at least through the mid-terms. The only thing that would end it then is a serious beat-down on the Democrats at the polls.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 19, 2018 06:04 PM (oVJmc)
122
Cuomo is just copying McAuliffe.
Posted by: dagny at April 19, 2018 06:05 PM (ahV/f)
123
>>>>I think one or two were sold for more than $1,300,000.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April
lately? I know they were over $1million around 2013 but thought
they had bottomed out around $200k. there was an article about some
hedge fund buying them up.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM
.
.
.That's supposedly around the time frame when he got the ones in question, at the peak of the market.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April
lately? I know they were over $1million around 2013 but thought
they had bottomed out around $200k. there was an article about some
hedge fund buying them up.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM
.
.
.That's supposedly around the time frame when he got the ones in question, at the peak of the market.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 19, 2018 06:05 PM (+Dllb)
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Our drivers were nice, and the cars were neat and clean.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 05:59 PM
The best part of your trip had to be paying homage at the bollard of doom. Some day I hope to pay homage, too.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 05:59 PM
The best part of your trip had to be paying homage at the bollard of doom. Some day I hope to pay homage, too.
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 06:05 PM (LOgQ4)
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That's supposedly around the time frame when he got the ones in question, at the peak of the market.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April
lol. then they should be laughing at him not charging him.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April
lol. then they should be laughing at him not charging him.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:06 PM (MTjB1)
126
LOL they cant call Trump a "suspect" or they would have to name some crime they are investigating.
Posted by: gahomo at April 19, 2018 06:06 PM (kPA/n)
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Is this just a D.C. swamp creature trying to play both ends against the middle? Or something else?
Posted by: mainly spoons at April 19, 2018 06:03 PM (v6UKb)
Ask again later
Posted by: mainly spoons at April 19, 2018 06:03 PM (v6UKb)
Ask again later
Posted by: Magic 8 Ball at April 19, 2018 06:06 PM (UXHfL)
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I know they were over $1million around 2013 but
thought they had bottomed out around $200k.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM (MTjB1)
Yeah...they peaked awhile ago. I would be shocked if they are even close to $1,000,000, but $200k seems a little low.
Regardless, their value is declining, and absent some insane banning of Uber/Lyft they aren't going up anytime soon.
thought they had bottomed out around $200k.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM (MTjB1)
Yeah...they peaked awhile ago. I would be shocked if they are even close to $1,000,000, but $200k seems a little low.
Regardless, their value is declining, and absent some insane banning of Uber/Lyft they aren't going up anytime soon.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 06:07 PM (wYseH)
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It will continue at least through the mid-terms. The only thing that would end it then is a serious beat-down on the Democrats at the polls.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
_____________
It would be suicidal though to count on that.
You're much better off firing Mueller than have him on the job with a Democrat House and a scared shitless Republican Party that will go along with every possible path to throw Mueller a life line and not let him be fired.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
_____________
It would be suicidal though to count on that.
You're much better off firing Mueller than have him on the job with a Democrat House and a scared shitless Republican Party that will go along with every possible path to throw Mueller a life line and not let him be fired.
Posted by: Maritime at April 19, 2018 06:07 PM (lKmt3)
130
Are we still hoping The Sessions will come or have we thrown him under the bus yet?
Posted by: Under Fire at April 19, 2018 06:07 PM (r9UYA)
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I see Rudy as 'old school' law and order not likely to walk Trump off the side of a cliff. Wise to the machinations of prosecutors. A big plus.
I see Rudy as 'old school' law and order not likely to walk Trump off the side of a cliff. Wise to the machinations of prosecutors. A big plus.
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 06:07 PM (LOgQ4)
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Regardless, their value is declining, and absent some insane banning of Uber/Lyft they aren't going up anytime soon.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April
the whole thing leaves me conflicted. hate the medallion system but hate uber and lyft just rolling in ans ignoring the rules.
cabs are better than uber.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April
the whole thing leaves me conflicted. hate the medallion system but hate uber and lyft just rolling in ans ignoring the rules.
cabs are better than uber.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:08 PM (MTjB1)
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The best part of your trip had to be paying homage at the bollard of doom. Some day I hope to pay homage, too.
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 06:05 PM (LOgQ4)
Yep. I made sure everyone around me heard, "Oh, this is the bollard where Hillary lost her shoes and got tossed in the back of her SUV like a sack of grain."
Yeah, I said it. Got the angry side eye, too. So worth it.
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 06:05 PM (LOgQ4)
Yep. I made sure everyone around me heard, "Oh, this is the bollard where Hillary lost her shoes and got tossed in the back of her SUV like a sack of grain."
Yeah, I said it. Got the angry side eye, too. So worth it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (ptqGC)
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Do Uber drivers have to have a cdl/chauffeur's license?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (+BxpP)
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but
thought they had bottomed out around $200k.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM (MTjB1)
Oh fvck! I just checked. You are correct.
Wow. That is a huge blow to the small taxicab companies and the individuals.
Ouch!
thought they had bottomed out around $200k.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:02 PM (MTjB1)
Oh fvck! I just checked. You are correct.
Wow. That is a huge blow to the small taxicab companies and the individuals.
Ouch!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (wYseH)
136
If Sessions sleeps long enough, maybe we can just declare him dead and move on?
Posted by: gahomo at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (kPA/n)
137
cabs are better than uber.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:08 PM (MTjB1)
Except if you can't get one. And that's the big issue.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:08 PM (MTjB1)
Except if you can't get one. And that's the big issue.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 06:10 PM (wYseH)
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the whole thing leaves me conflicted. hate the medallion system but hate uber and lyft just rolling in and ignoring the rules.
cabs are better than uber.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:08 PM (MTjB1)
Then drop the tyranny rules and free the oppressed cabbies. Uber and Lyft are free enterprise.
cabs are better than uber.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:08 PM (MTjB1)
Then drop the tyranny rules and free the oppressed cabbies. Uber and Lyft are free enterprise.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 06:10 PM (ujg0T)
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Can we send in MadDog Mattis to give them severe looks and threatening glares?
Or maybe Sarah Palin could go look at them over her glasses. Worked for the nuns.
Something to make them understand that ending this charade is in their best interest.
Or maybe Sarah Palin could go look at them over her glasses. Worked for the nuns.
Something to make them understand that ending this charade is in their best interest.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 19, 2018 06:11 PM (7UW64)
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>>Are we still hoping The Sessions will come or have we thrown him under the bus yet?
And by we you me you.
And by we you me you.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 06:11 PM (/tuJf)
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> BREAKING: Giuliani joins Trump team to break it off in Mueller.
Yep.
Anthony "Fat Tony" Salerno, Antonio "Tony Ducks" Corallo, Salvatore "Tom Mix" Santoro, Gennaro "Jerry Lang" Langella, Ralph "Ralphie" Scopo: died in prison.
Carmine "Junior" Persico, Anthony "Bruno" Indelicato: still in prison.
Ivan Boesky: served two years in prison, lifetime ban from securities trading.
Michael Milken: served two years in prison, $600 million fine, lifetime ban from securities trading.
All Giuliani's work.
Rudy craps bigger than Robert Mueller.
Yep.
Anthony "Fat Tony" Salerno, Antonio "Tony Ducks" Corallo, Salvatore "Tom Mix" Santoro, Gennaro "Jerry Lang" Langella, Ralph "Ralphie" Scopo: died in prison.
Carmine "Junior" Persico, Anthony "Bruno" Indelicato: still in prison.
Ivan Boesky: served two years in prison, lifetime ban from securities trading.
Michael Milken: served two years in prison, $600 million fine, lifetime ban from securities trading.
All Giuliani's work.
Rudy craps bigger than Robert Mueller.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:11 PM (Q7M5N)
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134 Do Uber drivers have to have a cdl/chauffeur's license?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (+BxpP)
This may vary by state, but unless it is a "stretched" limo, no. They do need to carry a higher level of insurance; I can attest to this.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (+BxpP)
This may vary by state, but unless it is a "stretched" limo, no. They do need to carry a higher level of insurance; I can attest to this.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 06:12 PM (ujg0T)
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119 I could see a negotiation where Mueller agrees to end the investigation and Trump agrees not to throw him out of a helicopter.
Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2018 06:04 PM (sdi6R)
I like this idea
Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2018 06:04 PM (sdi6R)
I like this idea
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 19, 2018 06:12 PM (xJa6I)
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When we go downtown for a night out here, we always take Uber or Lyft. Lately Lyft mostly. There's even a retired engineer who lives in the area who drives for them: a Lexus SUV.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:12 PM (ptqGC)
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Gun permits too.
My dad was denied for one when he applied normally. Then his buddy (a police surgeon) gave him the card for a lawyer who would "check his application for errors."
One large check later? He got the permit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 05:57 PM (wYseH)
When the guy got done telling me about the taxi medallions, he asked if I wanted to know how to get building permits and I said, no, no, that's fine, I'd had enough reminder of how the world really works and he just laughed.
Great guy. If you want to hear some really inventive swearing, ask a NYC cabbie about getting hit by a drunk driver while standing in his sister's front yard in the Poconos. I don't remember all of it but there was a riff about how even the idiot Jersey bridge and tunnel assholes weren't that stupid.
My dad was denied for one when he applied normally. Then his buddy (a police surgeon) gave him the card for a lawyer who would "check his application for errors."
One large check later? He got the permit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 05:57 PM (wYseH)
When the guy got done telling me about the taxi medallions, he asked if I wanted to know how to get building permits and I said, no, no, that's fine, I'd had enough reminder of how the world really works and he just laughed.
Great guy. If you want to hear some really inventive swearing, ask a NYC cabbie about getting hit by a drunk driver while standing in his sister's front yard in the Poconos. I don't remember all of it but there was a riff about how even the idiot Jersey bridge and tunnel assholes weren't that stupid.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 06:12 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 06:12 PM (/tuJf)
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the whole thing leaves me conflicted. hate the medallion system but hate uber and lyft just rolling in ans ignoring the rules.
cabs are better than uber.
Posted by: yankeefifth
________
I have to go with Uber/Lyft if I'm choosing a side.
They represent the free market ignoring stupid political "subsidies" in the form of crony capitalism.
The fact at one time it cost a million dollars for a "medallion" so you could drive a cab is ridiculous.
The city I live in, yellow cab taxis were also a giant rip off driven by complete low lives.
So much nicer now to have Uber and Lyft. Clean cars, inexpensive, convenient, etc. Not perfect, but a huge step up.
cabs are better than uber.
Posted by: yankeefifth
________
I have to go with Uber/Lyft if I'm choosing a side.
They represent the free market ignoring stupid political "subsidies" in the form of crony capitalism.
The fact at one time it cost a million dollars for a "medallion" so you could drive a cab is ridiculous.
The city I live in, yellow cab taxis were also a giant rip off driven by complete low lives.
So much nicer now to have Uber and Lyft. Clean cars, inexpensive, convenient, etc. Not perfect, but a huge step up.
Posted by: Maritime at April 19, 2018 06:12 PM (lKmt3)
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6 If Sessions sleeps long enough, maybe we can just declare him dead and move on?
Posted by: gahomo at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (kPA/n)
You are grounded. Go to your room.
Posted by: gahomo at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (kPA/n)
You are grounded. Go to your room.
Posted by: Magic 8 Ball at April 19, 2018 06:12 PM (UXHfL)
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Yep. I made sure everyone around me heard, "Oh, this is the bollard where Hillary lost her shoes and got tossed in the back of her SUV like a sack of grain."
Yeah, I said it. Got the angry side eye, too. So worth it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (ptqGC)
I'd have thought that particular piece of landscape would have been Arkancided by now.
Yeah, I said it. Got the angry side eye, too. So worth it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (ptqGC)
I'd have thought that particular piece of landscape would have been Arkancided by now.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 19, 2018 06:13 PM (7UW64)
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Can Rudy be trusted?
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:13 PM (yXU4O)
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but hate uber and lyft just rolling in ans ignoring the rules.
From what I've read, the taxi medallion is because taxi's can be hailed from the street, but uber requires the client to telephone and make an appointment to be picked up. Something about the way the regulation is worded and we all know what happens when laws are overly vague; they can't be enforced.
But I am not a lawyer, and it was something I read on the internet.
From what I've read, the taxi medallion is because taxi's can be hailed from the street, but uber requires the client to telephone and make an appointment to be picked up. Something about the way the regulation is worded and we all know what happens when laws are overly vague; they can't be enforced.
But I am not a lawyer, and it was something I read on the internet.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse- I put the fish in chess at April 19, 2018 06:13 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 06:14 PM (/tuJf)
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Great guy. If you want to hear some really
inventive swearing, ask a NYC cabbie about getting hit by a drunk driver
while standing in his sister's front yard in the Poconos. I don't
remember all of it but there was a riff about how even the idiot Jersey
bridge and tunnel assholes weren't that stupid.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 06:12 PM (dEQP3)
Did you learn any new words you can share here? I'm running out of swears.
inventive swearing, ask a NYC cabbie about getting hit by a drunk driver
while standing in his sister's front yard in the Poconos. I don't
remember all of it but there was a riff about how even the idiot Jersey
bridge and tunnel assholes weren't that stupid.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 06:12 PM (dEQP3)
Did you learn any new words you can share here? I'm running out of swears.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:14 PM (ptqGC)
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134 Do Uber drivers have to have a cdl/chauffeur's license?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (+BxpP)
No.
And they don't have to have the same expensive insurance standards as a cab company, either.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (+BxpP)
No.
And they don't have to have the same expensive insurance standards as a cab company, either.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:14 PM (yXU4O)
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Geez, maybe I shouldn't admit to committing a felony of attempting to bribe a public official under my real name.
* slap forehead *
Geez, maybe I shouldn't admit to committing a felony of attempting to bribe a public official under my real name.
* slap forehead *
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 06:14 PM (LOgQ4)
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150 Can Rudy be trusted?
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:13 PM (yXU4O)
By whom, and for what?
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:13 PM (yXU4O)
By whom, and for what?
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (7UW64)
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"I'll negotiate the end!" And then the vice tightens. And so on and so forth.
Posted by: Max Power at April 19, 2018 05:42 PM (q177U)
"Negotiate an end" implies some kind of wrongdoing. This is a very swampy thing to do.
Posted by: Max Power at April 19, 2018 05:42 PM (q177U)
"Negotiate an end" implies some kind of wrongdoing. This is a very swampy thing to do.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (pYod2)
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where Mueller agrees to end the investigation and Trump agrees not to throw him out of a helicopter.
Again!
Again!
Posted by: DaveA at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (FhXTo)
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>>150 Can Rudy be trusted?
Ya can't trust him with upholding the Second Amendment that's for sure.
Ya can't trust him with upholding the Second Amendment that's for sure.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (r9UYA)
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Isn't Rosenpenis just getting ahead of the document dump that shows this whole circus for what it is?
The stuff Congress has been asking for for months?
Just got here if someone else aready made the assumption
The stuff Congress has been asking for for months?
Just got here if someone else aready made the assumption
Posted by: Derptastic at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (DB16e)
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I really wish when the PA PUC was doing the Uber vs. Cab Companies hearings, that I would have asked my big boss if I could sit in on them.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (yXU4O)
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>> I made sure everyone around me heard, "Oh, this is the bollard where Hillary lost her shoes and got tossed in the back of her SUV like a sack of grain."
I wish people would start leaving one shoe at that thing, like the crap they leave at Strawbwerry fields.
I wish people would start leaving one shoe at that thing, like the crap they leave at Strawbwerry fields.
Posted by: garrett at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (uJ7X+)
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Also Guiliani isn't going to buy this "not a target" bs.
Posted by: dagny at April 19, 2018 06:16 PM (ahV/f)
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My sincere hope this all is simply a negotiation step for Trump. Way too many federals need lengthy Leavenworth stints.
Posted by: Taqyia2Me at April 19, 2018 06:16 PM (Ftuf+)
165
So, Trump was a NYC taxi driver for a while? Hmmm, interesting. Or was Cohen the one moonlighting?
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 19, 2018 06:16 PM (5AVMW)
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> I wish people would start leaving one shoe at that thing
Better: a Depends weighted down by a shoe.
Better: a Depends weighted down by a shoe.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:16 PM (Q7M5N)
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156 By whom, and for what?
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (7UW64)
To keep PDT from shooting himself in the foot by talking to Mueller, for one.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (7UW64)
To keep PDT from shooting himself in the foot by talking to Mueller, for one.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:16 PM (yXU4O)
Posted by: josephistan at April 19, 2018 06:17 PM (ANIFC)
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I wish people would start leaving one shoe at that thing, like the crap they leave at Strawbwerry fields.
Posted by: garrett at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (uJ7X+)
Brilliant. A "sensible shoe" in extra wide.
Posted by: garrett at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (uJ7X+)
Brilliant. A "sensible shoe" in extra wide.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:17 PM (ptqGC)
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167 156 By whom, and for what?
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (7UW64)
To keep PDT from shooting himself in the foot by talking to Mueller, for one.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:16 PM (yXU4O)
Rudy is the original NY tough guy. Not to worry. Nothing will transpire that should not, in this situation.
He didn't back down from the mob, and he sure isn't going to back down from these limp noodles.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (7UW64)
To keep PDT from shooting himself in the foot by talking to Mueller, for one.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:16 PM (yXU4O)
Rudy is the original NY tough guy. Not to worry. Nothing will transpire that should not, in this situation.
He didn't back down from the mob, and he sure isn't going to back down from these limp noodles.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 19, 2018 06:17 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: Under Fire at April 19, 2018 06:18 PM (r9UYA)
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>>I wish people would start leaving one shoe at that thing, like the crap they leave at Strawbwerry fields.
That is pure gold!
That is pure gold!
Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2018 06:18 PM (W+vEI)
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PDT need a "house painter" if ya know what I mean.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 19, 2018 06:18 PM (/2ntM)
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Did you learn any new words you can share here? I'm running out of swears.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:14 PM (ptqGC)
It wasn't so much new words as the beautiful tapestry he wove. It was very much a Christmas Story and my father worked in profanity the way others worked in oils.
Did you learn any new words you can share here? I'm running out of swears.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:14 PM (ptqGC)
It wasn't so much new words as the beautiful tapestry he wove. It was very much a Christmas Story and my father worked in profanity the way others worked in oils.
Posted by: alexthechick - containing multitudes at April 19, 2018 06:18 PM (dEQP3)
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Then drop the tyranny rules and free the oppressed cabbies. Uber and Lyft are free enterprise.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April
well, it is not that simple.
the medallion system was in place and lots of people had paid lots of money to play by its rules. having someone show up and simply decide not to play by the rules is not fair to the medallion owners.
the rules that put the medallion system in place may have been stupid but letting ube and lyft roll in screws the medallion owners not the city.
you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April
well, it is not that simple.
the medallion system was in place and lots of people had paid lots of money to play by its rules. having someone show up and simply decide not to play by the rules is not fair to the medallion owners.
the rules that put the medallion system in place may have been stupid but letting ube and lyft roll in screws the medallion owners not the city.
you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:19 PM (MTjB1)
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NYC gun permit bribery scheme exposed.
https://tinyurl.com/yabp3ltw
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 06:14 PM (/tuJf)
That was happening in the 1980s too.
Shocking!
https://tinyurl.com/yabp3ltw
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 06:14 PM (/tuJf)
That was happening in the 1980s too.
Shocking!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 06:19 PM (wYseH)
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Glad Rudy's bald head leaks as bad as his mouth.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 19, 2018 06:19 PM (3Pma+)
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Much better! Your post said it wouldn't come out, and boy did that blind side me. Thank you for clarifying.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 19, 2018 05:48 PM (UXHfL)
If Trump isn't allowed to stop the Mueller probe then how can he be able to stop the OIG investigation? Sorry, but the FBI being allowed to negotiate their way out of criminal wrongdoing, much less a coup, is the end of the Rule of Law.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 19, 2018 05:48 PM (UXHfL)
If Trump isn't allowed to stop the Mueller probe then how can he be able to stop the OIG investigation? Sorry, but the FBI being allowed to negotiate their way out of criminal wrongdoing, much less a coup, is the end of the Rule of Law.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 19, 2018 06:20 PM (pYod2)
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WaPo says Trump is having trouble recruiting lawyers. Huh. I guess Rudy is chickenfeed?
They also say he has Ty Cobb working for him. I thought Ty Cobb was long dead, but as I recall, he was a pretty tough contender.
They also say he has Ty Cobb working for him. I thought Ty Cobb was long dead, but as I recall, he was a pretty tough contender.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 19, 2018 06:20 PM (7UW64)
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> you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Like the way the buggy whip manufacturers and whale oil merchants recouped their losses after cars and electric lights came along?
Like the way the buggy whip manufacturers and whale oil merchants recouped their losses after cars and electric lights came along?
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (Q7M5N)
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Hello from Mississippi. Love the accents. So it seems a good day for our side
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (qz/Gf)
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Trump has gathered much dirt on his enemies in the last year and a half. Justice has a compelling case against many of the ringleaders. Could be a ton of leverage amassed by the POTUS.
Posted by: Gaius Julius Caesar at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (RIS8p)
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When I was on my Northeastern tour, I relied heavily on Uber. Amazed that in the middle of Boston I could tap a couple of buttons on the app and within two minutes a car would pick me up.
I never had that kind of responsiveness from a cab company.
I never had that kind of responsiveness from a cab company.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (G8hDY)
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>>
the rules that put the medallion system in place may have been stupid but letting ube and lyft roll in screws the medallion owners not the city.
Yup. You have people who have paid a huge amount of money for a medallion - probably took out a loan they are still paying off - and then suddenly they have to compete with Uber, who had no (?) cost of entry.
the rules that put the medallion system in place may have been stupid but letting ube and lyft roll in screws the medallion owners not the city.
Yup. You have people who have paid a huge amount of money for a medallion - probably took out a loan they are still paying off - and then suddenly they have to compete with Uber, who had no (?) cost of entry.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (W+vEI)
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My understanding is that the dictionary entry for "shithole" has a map of Harrisburg's State Capitol Complex.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (CI+LH)
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We visited the 9/11 Memorial museum, and left made as hell and too emotional to speak.
The kicker was at the very end, as we were leaving, my husband looked down near the damned floor to see a quote by Billy Jeff, as to why he didn't take out Bin Laden. Something along the lines of "I didn't want to kill any innocent women and children."
My husband, normally a very calm person, lost it and loudly pointed to the quote and said "You were a miserable excuse for a president! You failed this nation! And you're a miserable excuse for a human being now." He was furious.
And yes, everyone in the area turned and stared. We were leaving, so no one got the chance to throw us out.
The kicker was at the very end, as we were leaving, my husband looked down near the damned floor to see a quote by Billy Jeff, as to why he didn't take out Bin Laden. Something along the lines of "I didn't want to kill any innocent women and children."
My husband, normally a very calm person, lost it and loudly pointed to the quote and said "You were a miserable excuse for a president! You failed this nation! And you're a miserable excuse for a human being now." He was furious.
And yes, everyone in the area turned and stared. We were leaving, so no one got the chance to throw us out.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:22 PM (ptqGC)
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you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:19 PM (MTjB1)
Increase the fee for a ride-sharing license, and begin converting yellow cabs to those licenses, with the revenue going to pay off some % of the medallion cost.
No matter what, somebody is going to get screwed. But the people who bought at the peak were gambling. Let's not paint them as innocents.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:19 PM (MTjB1)
Increase the fee for a ride-sharing license, and begin converting yellow cabs to those licenses, with the revenue going to pay off some % of the medallion cost.
No matter what, somebody is going to get screwed. But the people who bought at the peak were gambling. Let's not paint them as innocents.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 06:22 PM (wYseH)
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you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:19 PM (MTjB1)
A tax write off of a massive asset loss?
(I get what you are saying, but I have to hand it to innovators like Uber and Lyft for breaking the monopoly deadlock)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:19 PM (MTjB1)
A tax write off of a massive asset loss?
(I get what you are saying, but I have to hand it to innovators like Uber and Lyft for breaking the monopoly deadlock)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 06:22 PM (ujg0T)
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I wish people would start leaving one shoe at that thing
Better: a Depends weighted down by a shoe.
\
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:16 PM (Q7M5N)
Better: Mrs. Potato Head missing a shoe
I wish people would start leaving one shoe at that thing
Better: a Depends weighted down by a shoe.
\
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:16 PM (Q7M5N)
Better: Mrs. Potato Head missing a shoe
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 19, 2018 06:23 PM (lKyWE)
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I have to go with Uber/Lyft if I'm choosing a side.
They represent the free market ignoring stupid political "subsidies" in the form of crony capitalism.
The fact at one time it cost a million dollars for a "medallion" so you could drive a cab is ridiculous.
The city I live in, yellow cab taxis were also a giant rip off driven by complete low lives.
So much nicer now to have Uber and Lyft. Clean cars, inexpensive, convenient, etc. Not perfect, but a huge step up.
Posted by: Maritime at April
not sure about the city you ilve in but nyc cabs are perfectly clean. cannot recall anything that would qualify as dirty or unclean. old, used, sure. dirty no.
cab drivers have to pass a rather extensive test to get their license and they know their way around a lot better than uber and lyft drivers.
of course it is funny that lots of cabs also have uber and lyft signs too.
They represent the free market ignoring stupid political "subsidies" in the form of crony capitalism.
The fact at one time it cost a million dollars for a "medallion" so you could drive a cab is ridiculous.
The city I live in, yellow cab taxis were also a giant rip off driven by complete low lives.
So much nicer now to have Uber and Lyft. Clean cars, inexpensive, convenient, etc. Not perfect, but a huge step up.
Posted by: Maritime at April
not sure about the city you ilve in but nyc cabs are perfectly clean. cannot recall anything that would qualify as dirty or unclean. old, used, sure. dirty no.
cab drivers have to pass a rather extensive test to get their license and they know their way around a lot better than uber and lyft drivers.
of course it is funny that lots of cabs also have uber and lyft signs too.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:23 PM (MTjB1)
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Actually he is related to the real ty cobb
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 06:23 PM (qz/Gf)
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>>Also Guiliani isn't going to buy this "not a target" bs.
If Rosenstein told Trump he isn't a target and he actually is he can be brought up on charges as well.
If Rosenstein told Trump he isn't a target and he actually is he can be brought up on charges as well.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 06:23 PM (/tuJf)
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you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Like the loses I sustained when the US Senate threw American manufacturing under the bus to make a fortune from China trade?
Count me in. I gotta tiny little two million dollar claim.
you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Like the loses I sustained when the US Senate threw American manufacturing under the bus to make a fortune from China trade?
Count me in. I gotta tiny little two million dollar claim.
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 06:23 PM (LOgQ4)
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> But the people who bought at the peak were gambling. Let's not paint them as innocents.
Yeah. If you paid a million bucks for a taxi medallion, you knew damned well you were playing in a crooked game.
Yeah. If you paid a million bucks for a taxi medallion, you knew damned well you were playing in a crooked game.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:23 PM (Q7M5N)
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> I made sure everyone around me heard, "Oh, this is the bollard where Hillary lost her shoes and got tossed in the back of her SUV like a sack of grain."
I wish people would start leaving one shoe at that thing, like the crap they leave at Strawbwerry fields.
Posted by: garrett at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (uJ7X+)
Maybe an 'artist' can embed a bronze shoe into the curb & gutter there as a memorial.
I wish people would start leaving one shoe at that thing, like the crap they leave at Strawbwerry fields.
Posted by: garrett at April 19, 2018 06:15 PM (uJ7X+)
Maybe an 'artist' can embed a bronze shoe into the curb & gutter there as a memorial.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2018 06:24 PM (V1D0R)
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180 > you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Like the way the buggy whip manufacturers and whale oil merchants recouped their losses after cars and electric lights came along?
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (Q7M5N)
This
Like the way the buggy whip manufacturers and whale oil merchants recouped their losses after cars and electric lights came along?
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (Q7M5N)
This
Posted by: Tobacco farmers at April 19, 2018 06:24 PM (g6DZU)
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the rules that put the medallion system in place may have been stupid but letting ube and lyft roll in screws the medallion owners not the city.
you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:19 PM (MTjB1)
Iirc, at least 4 NY Cab Drivers have committed suicide bcz of losing income and livelihoods. I didn't have the heart to read the stories. So I agree about helping out the medallion drivers who were made to pay these exorbitant fees to drive a cab.
you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:19 PM (MTjB1)
Iirc, at least 4 NY Cab Drivers have committed suicide bcz of losing income and livelihoods. I didn't have the heart to read the stories. So I agree about helping out the medallion drivers who were made to pay these exorbitant fees to drive a cab.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 19, 2018 06:25 PM (UXHfL)
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Gorilla glue an orthopedic shoe in that place.
Posted by: Under Fire at April 19, 2018 06:25 PM (r9UYA)
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I never had that kind of responsiveness from a cab company.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (G8hDY
My kids use it all he time if they have been drinking. I used one once, New Years Eve. I don't have the app but the kids got one for me. SHowed up in 10 minutes, with my daughter yelling at him.. that's my mom!! Take good care of her! lol. He was a nice guy
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (G8hDY
My kids use it all he time if they have been drinking. I used one once, New Years Eve. I don't have the app but the kids got one for me. SHowed up in 10 minutes, with my daughter yelling at him.. that's my mom!! Take good care of her! lol. He was a nice guy
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 19, 2018 06:25 PM (dUJdY)
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Yep. I made sure everyone around me heard, "Oh, this is the bollard where Hillary lost her shoes and got tossed in the back of her SUV like a sack of grain."
Yeah, I said it. Got the angry side eye, too. So worth it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (ptqGC)
...........
And you were being nice... didn't even use the phrase "slab of meat".
Yeah, I said it. Got the angry side eye, too. So worth it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:09 PM (ptqGC)
...........
And you were being nice... didn't even use the phrase "slab of meat".
Posted by: wth at April 19, 2018 06:25 PM (HgMAr)
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you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Like the way the buggy whip manufacturers and whale oil merchants recouped their losses after cars and electric lights came along?
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April
you realize the difference between being a manufacturer of an outmoded product and being forced to buy a government mandated license right? not the same. nothing in the taxi model has changed except a bunch of people showed up and found a questionable way around the rules.
Like the way the buggy whip manufacturers and whale oil merchants recouped their losses after cars and electric lights came along?
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April
you realize the difference between being a manufacturer of an outmoded product and being forced to buy a government mandated license right? not the same. nothing in the taxi model has changed except a bunch of people showed up and found a questionable way around the rules.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:26 PM (MTjB1)
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A tax write off of a massive asset loss?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 06:22 PM
If you think the IRS is going to help you after suffering a massive asset loss, I can't help you. Cliff Notes Version: you're screwed. Pennies. Over a long time.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 06:22 PM
If you think the IRS is going to help you after suffering a massive asset loss, I can't help you. Cliff Notes Version: you're screwed. Pennies. Over a long time.
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM (LOgQ4)
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Don't forget the criminal referral from Congress on Rosenpenis for civil rights violations. Not by name but a request to charge all those who asked for FISA warrants for to be charged.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM (V1D0R)
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>>If you are still here, could you please clarify your last post in the last thread? There is some question about it.
The IG's report will come out. It's too late to stop it.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 05:46 PM (/tuJf)
I knew someone at MSFT who waited to give their notice until 'the reviews were set in stone'.
He was expecting (and deserved) a great review. Shipped a feature that was great that people didn't think would be on time for ship, two of the three major devs on the team got promoted.
His boss referenced a bonus during his review 1-1; he looked at the review, said, 'I don't see a bonus here'. Few other little things like that happened.
They had changed the 'set in stone' review. My bet is the report can change.
>>If you are still here, could you please clarify your last post in the last thread? There is some question about it.
The IG's report will come out. It's too late to stop it.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 05:46 PM (/tuJf)
I knew someone at MSFT who waited to give their notice until 'the reviews were set in stone'.
He was expecting (and deserved) a great review. Shipped a feature that was great that people didn't think would be on time for ship, two of the three major devs on the team got promoted.
His boss referenced a bonus during his review 1-1; he looked at the review, said, 'I don't see a bonus here'. Few other little things like that happened.
They had changed the 'set in stone' review. My bet is the report can change.
Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM (Gim9y)
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> cab drivers have to pass a rather extensive test to get their license
I don't know specifically about NYC, but it's pretty rare for "cab driver" and "cab medallion owner" to be the same person.
Cab drivers are engaged in a dangerous, low-paid job with shitty hours and (sometimes) unpleasant customers.
Cab medallion owners are "connected" people who managed to pull the right strings to get the medallion (which can range from honest purchase to "campaign contributions" to "knowing a guy").
I don't know specifically about NYC, but it's pretty rare for "cab driver" and "cab medallion owner" to be the same person.
Cab drivers are engaged in a dangerous, low-paid job with shitty hours and (sometimes) unpleasant customers.
Cab medallion owners are "connected" people who managed to pull the right strings to get the medallion (which can range from honest purchase to "campaign contributions" to "knowing a guy").
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM (Q7M5N)
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And yes, everyone in the area turned and stared. We were leaving, so no one got the chance to throw us out.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:22 PM (ptqGC
Excellent.
And yes, everyone in the area turned and stared. We were leaving, so no one got the chance to throw us out.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:22 PM (ptqGC
Excellent.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM (/2ntM)
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My Econ prof would tell me the medallions represent a barrier to entry that is put in place to allow the connected to restrict the providers of a service and thereby make money from an artificial shortage of supply.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM (G8hDY)
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121 Mueller is just running a harassment operation now. It's to box Trump in as much as possible, drive off his supporters, and inflict harm on them.
Mueller is doing opposition research for the Democrat Party in 2018 and 2020. Watch the Cohen stuff leak all over the table, floor, and from Mueller's pants. Anything with the name Trump connected to it, regardless of anything else, will be leaked.
We are already seeing a corrupt FBI for nearly a decade at the top, and nothing is done to stop it.
Nothing.
Like Mueller as head of the FBI covering up for the Confidential Informant that gave him evidence for 6 years, including audio tapes, emails, and bank records that Hillary/Dems got paid by a Russian bank to cover for the Uranium One payoffs.
Nothing.
Anyone who can't see this is so stupid and naïve, their judgement cannot be trusted again.
Or worse.
Mueller is doing opposition research for the Democrat Party in 2018 and 2020. Watch the Cohen stuff leak all over the table, floor, and from Mueller's pants. Anything with the name Trump connected to it, regardless of anything else, will be leaked.
We are already seeing a corrupt FBI for nearly a decade at the top, and nothing is done to stop it.
Nothing.
Like Mueller as head of the FBI covering up for the Confidential Informant that gave him evidence for 6 years, including audio tapes, emails, and bank records that Hillary/Dems got paid by a Russian bank to cover for the Uranium One payoffs.
Nothing.
Anyone who can't see this is so stupid and naïve, their judgement cannot be trusted again.
Or worse.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM (UsCnO)
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And you were being nice... didn't even use the phrase "slab of meat".
Posted by: wth at April 19, 2018 06:25 PM (HgMAr)
I wished I'd finished with, "Bless her heart."
Posted by: wth at April 19, 2018 06:25 PM (HgMAr)
I wished I'd finished with, "Bless her heart."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:28 PM (ptqGC)
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No matter what, somebody is going to get screwed. But the people who bought at the peak were gambling. Let's not paint them as innocents.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 06:22 PM (wYseH)
No expert, but are we sure? Aren't many legal immigrants who come here and see that as a way to make a living. And thus maybe are fairly innocent?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 06:22 PM (wYseH)
No expert, but are we sure? Aren't many legal immigrants who come here and see that as a way to make a living. And thus maybe are fairly innocent?
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 19, 2018 06:29 PM (UXHfL)
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This is similar to when a wife is killed and the police say the husband
is not a suspect, just a person of interest. Which means...he is a
suspect.
No.
This is closer to Mueller's investigation of Steven Hatfill - except in the Anthrax letters case there were actual crimes committed.
This would be more similar to a murder investigation of a man for killing his wife - with the wife standing right there saying "Hello I'm alive - Hello." and the police say to the husband "You're a person of interest in the disappearance of your wife. But, you're not a suspect."
is not a suspect, just a person of interest. Which means...he is a
suspect.
No.
This is closer to Mueller's investigation of Steven Hatfill - except in the Anthrax letters case there were actual crimes committed.
This would be more similar to a murder investigation of a man for killing his wife - with the wife standing right there saying "Hello I'm alive - Hello." and the police say to the husband "You're a person of interest in the disappearance of your wife. But, you're not a suspect."
Posted by: An Observation at April 19, 2018 06:29 PM (QGEI2)
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you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Posted by: yankeefifth
__________
I think it was pointed out earlier, but Uber/Lyft is a different service, much like a chauffer on staff that didn't require a medallion either. you're not supposed to "hail" an Uber driver in NYC. You can hail a yellow cab with a medallion.
So they can keep doing what they're doing and make a living.
But this sort of thing happens in every industry. RedBox put under a lot of Blockbuster Videos. Should they be compensated for those retail permits?
Posted by: yankeefifth
__________
I think it was pointed out earlier, but Uber/Lyft is a different service, much like a chauffer on staff that didn't require a medallion either. you're not supposed to "hail" an Uber driver in NYC. You can hail a yellow cab with a medallion.
So they can keep doing what they're doing and make a living.
But this sort of thing happens in every industry. RedBox put under a lot of Blockbuster Videos. Should they be compensated for those retail permits?
Posted by: Maritime at April 19, 2018 06:29 PM (lKmt3)
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Say what you will about Rudy, but he damn well knows all the prosecutorial tricks of the trade.
Posted by: logprof at April 19, 2018 06:29 PM (e7oj4)
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> you realize the difference between being a manufacturer of an outmoded product and being forced to buy a government mandated license right?
The first one was engaged in an honest business, while the second one was knowingly engaged in a rigged game?
Not seeing why the second one gets more sympathy here.
The first one was engaged in an honest business, while the second one was knowingly engaged in a rigged game?
Not seeing why the second one gets more sympathy here.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:29 PM (Q7M5N)
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Nah,
Guiliani has room to negotiate. It goes like this:
Trump announces, "I'm replacing Jeff Sessions with Rudy Guiliani."
Guiliani has room to negotiate. It goes like this:
Trump announces, "I'm replacing Jeff Sessions with Rudy Guiliani."
Posted by: qzy at April 19, 2018 06:29 PM (JVhwW)
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183 When I was on my Northeastern tour, I relied heavily on Uber. Amazed that in the middle of Boston I could tap a couple of buttons on the app and within two minutes a car would pick me up.
I never had that kind of responsiveness from a cab company.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (G8hDY)
I take it you need to have a smartphone in order to use Uber or Lyft?
I never had that kind of responsiveness from a cab company.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (G8hDY)
I take it you need to have a smartphone in order to use Uber or Lyft?
Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2018 06:30 PM (sdi6R)
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My Econ prof would tell me the medallions represent a
barrier to entry that is put in place to allow the connected to
restrict the providers of a service and thereby make money from an
artificial shortage of supply.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM (G8hDY)
And what would he say when asked how to unwind the scam?
Oops! Office hours are over!
barrier to entry that is put in place to allow the connected to
restrict the providers of a service and thereby make money from an
artificial shortage of supply.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM (G8hDY)
And what would he say when asked how to unwind the scam?
Oops! Office hours are over!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 06:30 PM (wYseH)
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My Econ prof would tell me the medallions represent a barrier to entry that is put in place to allow the connected to restrict the providers of a service and thereby make money from an artificial shortage of supply.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM
I can tell you're old. From back in the time when Econ profs told the truth. Not badgered you over the latest SJW position.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM
I can tell you're old. From back in the time when Econ profs told the truth. Not badgered you over the latest SJW position.
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 06:30 PM (LOgQ4)
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Well, husband is on his way home. I wrestled a heavy king-size mattress topper onto the bed this afternoon. Thing weighed a ton.
He's agreed to take me to dinner, since I spent two hours at a Skype lunch meeting that never happened.
He's agreed to take me to dinner, since I spent two hours at a Skype lunch meeting that never happened.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:30 PM (ptqGC)
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My Econ prof would tell me the medallions represent a barrier to entry that is put in place to allow the connected to restrict the providers of a service and thereby make money from an artificial shortage of supply.
And your Econ prof would be correct, for that's how corruption works.
I'll never take another ridiculously and needlessly expensive cab again as long as Lyft is around.
My Econ prof would tell me the medallions represent a barrier to entry that is put in place to allow the connected to restrict the providers of a service and thereby make money from an artificial shortage of supply.
And your Econ prof would be correct, for that's how corruption works.
I'll never take another ridiculously and needlessly expensive cab again as long as Lyft is around.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 19, 2018 06:31 PM (GdWl+)
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Increase the fee for a ride-sharing license, and begin converting yellow cabs to those licenses, with the revenue going to pay off some % of the medallion cost.
No matter what, somebody is going to get screwed. But the people who bought at the peak were gambling. Let's not paint them as innocents.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April
we are on the same page more or less. most medallion owners never see the inside of a cab, at least from the drivers seat. I am all for free enterprise and competition. my only complaint about this scenario is that the government is going to get to screw some of these guys on both sides of the transaction instead of the usual once.
the get screwed when they are forced to buy the medallion and screwed again when the government decides to let uber and lyft make the medallions worthless.
even then, as you noted earlier, my only concern is for the little guys that own and operate the cars, not the hedgefund speculators. not that I want anyone getting screwed by the government.
No matter what, somebody is going to get screwed. But the people who bought at the peak were gambling. Let's not paint them as innocents.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April
we are on the same page more or less. most medallion owners never see the inside of a cab, at least from the drivers seat. I am all for free enterprise and competition. my only complaint about this scenario is that the government is going to get to screw some of these guys on both sides of the transaction instead of the usual once.
the get screwed when they are forced to buy the medallion and screwed again when the government decides to let uber and lyft make the medallions worthless.
even then, as you noted earlier, my only concern is for the little guys that own and operate the cars, not the hedgefund speculators. not that I want anyone getting screwed by the government.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:31 PM (MTjB1)
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Wow they just showed dead Prince laying on the floor on CBS news. Ghouls
Posted by: f'd at April 19, 2018 06:31 PM (UdKB7)
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192 >>Also Guiliani isn't going to buy this "not a target" bs.
If Rosenstein told Trump he isn't a target and he actually is he can be brought up on charges as well.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 06:23 PM (/tuJf)
Yeah right.
Right after I start my reign as the King of Siam.
If Rosenstein told Trump he isn't a target and he actually is he can be brought up on charges as well.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 06:23 PM (/tuJf)
Yeah right.
Right after I start my reign as the King of Siam.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 19, 2018 06:32 PM (3Pma+)
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202 A tax write off of a massive asset loss?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 06:22 PM
If you think the IRS is going to help you after suffering a massive asset loss, I can't help you. Cliff Notes Version: you're screwed. Pennies. Over a long time.
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM (LOgQ4)
I get that. The asset losses (as income losses) are quite limited and have to be "carried forward", sometimes for many years. Especially for individual people, at only $3,000 a year loss above and beyond any capital gains.
(I speak from experience here, having financed a stupid business venture from a now ex-wife).
However, for corporations (I am assuming these cab companies are Corporations?) there is much more leeway.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 06:22 PM
If you think the IRS is going to help you after suffering a massive asset loss, I can't help you. Cliff Notes Version: you're screwed. Pennies. Over a long time.
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM (LOgQ4)
I get that. The asset losses (as income losses) are quite limited and have to be "carried forward", sometimes for many years. Especially for individual people, at only $3,000 a year loss above and beyond any capital gains.
(I speak from experience here, having financed a stupid business venture from a now ex-wife).
However, for corporations (I am assuming these cab companies are Corporations?) there is much more leeway.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 06:32 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: socalcon at April 19, 2018 06:32 PM (Roy2Z)
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I take it you need to have a smartphone in order to use Uber or Lyft?
Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2018 06:30 PM (sdi6R)
Yes
I take it you need to have a smartphone in order to use Uber or Lyft?
Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2018 06:30 PM (sdi6R)
Yes
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at April 19, 2018 06:33 PM (lKyWE)
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> I take it you need to have a smartphone in order to use Uber or Lyft?
Yeah. You put your credit card number into the app (so neither you nor the driver needs cash, and you don't have to hand over your card to the driver -- he never sees or has access your card), and the app sends a car using the GPS in your phone. You even get a little map showing exactly where your car is, so you know when to go outside. It's pretty spiffy.
Yeah. You put your credit card number into the app (so neither you nor the driver needs cash, and you don't have to hand over your card to the driver -- he never sees or has access your card), and the app sends a car using the GPS in your phone. You even get a little map showing exactly where your car is, so you know when to go outside. It's pretty spiffy.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:33 PM (Q7M5N)
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Honey, lay down next to the bollard, take off your shoe and cross your eyes. That's it, now hang your tongue out the side of your mouth.
*click click click*
Got it. That's a keeper.
*click click click*
Got it. That's a keeper.
Posted by: wth at April 19, 2018 06:33 PM (HgMAr)
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well, it is not that simple.
the medallion system was in place and lots of people had paid lots of money to play by its rules. having someone show up and simply decide not to play by the rules is not fair to the medallion owners.
the rules that put the medallion system in place may have been stupid but letting ube and lyft roll in screws the medallion owners not the city.
you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:19 PM (MTjB1)
Why exactly? I didn't see any city trying to cover losses for newspapers after the internet news sites became common.
The medallion owners gambled, and they lost.
Technology is what beat them at their own game, albeit in bed with the cabbie scheme.
They knew their medallion values were falling long before anyone else and they should have sold then.
So no, no breaks.
well, it is not that simple.
the medallion system was in place and lots of people had paid lots of money to play by its rules. having someone show up and simply decide not to play by the rules is not fair to the medallion owners.
the rules that put the medallion system in place may have been stupid but letting ube and lyft roll in screws the medallion owners not the city.
you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:19 PM (MTjB1)
Why exactly? I didn't see any city trying to cover losses for newspapers after the internet news sites became common.
The medallion owners gambled, and they lost.
Technology is what beat them at their own game, albeit in bed with the cabbie scheme.
They knew their medallion values were falling long before anyone else and they should have sold then.
So no, no breaks.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 19, 2018 06:33 PM (UsCnO)
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noods
noods
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 06:34 PM (tFDiW)
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213 Say what you will about Rudy, but he damn well knows all the prosecutorial tricks of the trade.
Posted by: logprof at April 19, 2018 06:29 PM (e7oj4)
When was the last time Rudy prosecuted a crime let alone take on a defense client from start to finish in a trial?
Joe Montana knew the game too, do you want him running your team's offense today?
Posted by: logprof at April 19, 2018 06:29 PM (e7oj4)
When was the last time Rudy prosecuted a crime let alone take on a defense client from start to finish in a trial?
Joe Montana knew the game too, do you want him running your team's offense today?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 19, 2018 06:34 PM (3Pma+)
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One more thing, Lyft and Uber send you a photo of your driver, and you can follow them on their apps to see where they are and how soon they'll pick you up. And you can rate them (and they can rate you if you're an ass).
We had an Uber driver who is a retiree who keeps umbrellas in the back of his vehicle. It was raining one time when we arrived at our destination and he got out, opened the umbrella, and gave it to us.
That was pretty special.
We had an Uber driver who is a retiree who keeps umbrellas in the back of his vehicle. It was raining one time when we arrived at our destination and he got out, opened the umbrella, and gave it to us.
That was pretty special.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 19, 2018 06:34 PM (ptqGC)
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> the get screwed when they are forced to buy the medallion
No one was "forced" to enter the rigged taxicab business.
No one was "forced" to enter the rigged taxicab business.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:34 PM (Q7M5N)
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The first one was engaged in an honest business, while the second one was knowingly engaged in a rigged game?
Not seeing why the second one gets more sympathy here.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April
well, first the reason for failure is different.
second, you seem to suggest that anyone securing a government permit is engaged in a rigged game. would you have everyone requiring a government permit simply forego operating in that industry?
Not seeing why the second one gets more sympathy here.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April
well, first the reason for failure is different.
second, you seem to suggest that anyone securing a government permit is engaged in a rigged game. would you have everyone requiring a government permit simply forego operating in that industry?
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:34 PM (MTjB1)
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187 you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:19 PM (MTjB1)
Increase the fee for a ride-sharing license, and begin converting yellow cabs to those licenses, with the revenue going to pay off some % of the medallion cost.
No matter what, somebody is going to get screwed. But the people who bought at the peak were gambling. Let's not paint them as innocents.
++++
Disagree. The medallion system is an effort to restrict competition. I don't have a problem with a light permitting regime, where companies have to have insurance, maintain their vehicles, makes sure the drivers aren't a bunch of murderers and rapists, etc. But, anyone who can meet those reasonable requirements should be able to enter the market place and try to compete.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:19 PM (MTjB1)
Increase the fee for a ride-sharing license, and begin converting yellow cabs to those licenses, with the revenue going to pay off some % of the medallion cost.
No matter what, somebody is going to get screwed. But the people who bought at the peak were gambling. Let's not paint them as innocents.
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Disagree. The medallion system is an effort to restrict competition. I don't have a problem with a light permitting regime, where companies have to have insurance, maintain their vehicles, makes sure the drivers aren't a bunch of murderers and rapists, etc. But, anyone who can meet those reasonable requirements should be able to enter the market place and try to compete.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:35 PM (pvjTE)
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203 Don't forget the criminal referral from Congress on Rosenpenis for civil rights violations. Not by name but a request to charge all those who asked for FISA warrants for to be charged.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM (V1D0R)
Criminal referral from 11 Republican congressmen would be a more accurate description. unfortunately I don't think a partisan referral carries much weight. Hopefully it's purpose is to to pile onto the IG report to make the charges look more credible. Multiple sources.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 19, 2018 06:27 PM (V1D0R)
Criminal referral from 11 Republican congressmen would be a more accurate description. unfortunately I don't think a partisan referral carries much weight. Hopefully it's purpose is to to pile onto the IG report to make the charges look more credible. Multiple sources.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 19, 2018 06:35 PM (2DOZq)
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"Drop this investigation or I will drop your fucking ass in Gitmo" seems like a reasonable negotiating strategy to me.
Methinks if they are negotiating Trump may have something on Mueller now that would preclude the need to fire him.
Methinks if they are negotiating Trump may have something on Mueller now that would preclude the need to fire him.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at April 19, 2018 06:35 PM (+dsLj)
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>>Yeah right.
Right after I start my reign as the King of Siam.
Google False Statements Act, your royal Highness.
It amazes me how resistant to what is actually happening some people are. Trump is winning. Mueller has nothing.
Trump has no duty whatsoever to testify before Mueller. Zippo. The only obligation is political, how would it look if Trump gave Mueller the Heisman.
That's the negotiation.
Right after I start my reign as the King of Siam.
Google False Statements Act, your royal Highness.
It amazes me how resistant to what is actually happening some people are. Trump is winning. Mueller has nothing.
Trump has no duty whatsoever to testify before Mueller. Zippo. The only obligation is political, how would it look if Trump gave Mueller the Heisman.
That's the negotiation.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 06:35 PM (/tuJf)
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Question: If President Donald Trump isn't the target in Mueller's "investigation," THEN WHO FUCK IS??
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:55 PM (tFDiW)
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You are, I am . . . sort of. Mainly the Dems and the Media (BIRM). There are 25k sealed indictments for *something(s)* across the 50 states. Jeff Sessions has been busy. Mueller has been a distraction. Why would he play along? U1 and various other sundry unpleasantries.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 19, 2018 05:55 PM (tFDiW)
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You are, I am . . . sort of. Mainly the Dems and the Media (BIRM). There are 25k sealed indictments for *something(s)* across the 50 states. Jeff Sessions has been busy. Mueller has been a distraction. Why would he play along? U1 and various other sundry unpleasantries.
Posted by: Drive-By Commenter Guy at April 19, 2018 06:35 PM (4fmLd)
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227 > I take it you need to have a smartphone in order to use Uber or Lyft?
Yeah. You put your credit card number into the app (so neither you nor the driver needs cash, and you don't have to hand over your card to the driver -- he never sees or has access your card), and the app sends a car using the GPS in your phone. You even get a little map showing exactly where your car is, so you know when to go outside. It's pretty spiffy.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:33 PM (Q7M5N)
Guess I better buy some sturdy walking shoes, then.
Yeah. You put your credit card number into the app (so neither you nor the driver needs cash, and you don't have to hand over your card to the driver -- he never sees or has access your card), and the app sends a car using the GPS in your phone. You even get a little map showing exactly where your car is, so you know when to go outside. It's pretty spiffy.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:33 PM (Q7M5N)
Guess I better buy some sturdy walking shoes, then.
Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2018 06:35 PM (sdi6R)
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Why exactly? I didn't see any city trying to cover losses for newspapers after the internet news sites became common.
The medallion owners gambled, and they lost.
Technology is what beat them at their own game, albeit in bed with the cabbie scheme.
They knew their medallion values were falling long before anyone else and they should have sold then.
So no, no breaks.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April
no one forced the newspapers to buy licenses from the government.
that is a significant difference between newspapers and taxis.
The medallion owners gambled, and they lost.
Technology is what beat them at their own game, albeit in bed with the cabbie scheme.
They knew their medallion values were falling long before anyone else and they should have sold then.
So no, no breaks.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April
no one forced the newspapers to buy licenses from the government.
that is a significant difference between newspapers and taxis.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:36 PM (MTjB1)
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Washington Metropolitan Airports Authority has granted a taxi monopoly to one unsavory individual operating his firm as Washington Flyer. Passengers in the terminal are constantly reminded that any other option is unsafe and against the law.
He stays wealthy and greases palms, his drivers barely make ends meet.
He stays wealthy and greases palms, his drivers barely make ends meet.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 19, 2018 06:36 PM (QHIPb)
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the rules that put the medallion system in place may have been stupid
but letting ube and lyft roll in screws the medallion owners not the
city.
you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
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Fuckin A!!!
but letting ube and lyft roll in screws the medallion owners not the
city.
you need someway to unwind the system and let the medallion owners recoup some of their losses.
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Fuckin A!!!
Posted by: Buggywhip Manufacturer's Consortium at April 19, 2018 06:36 PM (2wOtx)
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227 > I take it you need to have a smartphone in order to use Uber or Lyft?
Yeah. You put your credit card number into the app (so neither you nor the driver needs cash, and you don't have to hand over your card to the driver -- he never sees or has access your card), and the app sends a car using the GPS in your phone. You even get a little map showing exactly where your car is, so you know when to go outside. It's pretty spiffy.
And all pricing is local, but in most areas I have used it, the pricing is about half of a local cab.
And you get picked up a lot faster than a cab, unless you are in the heart of a city with tons of cabs.
Cabs are essentially obsolete today in most circumstances. And yes, the medallion owners are the ones that got screwed.
Not unlike the small bookstore owners after Amazon arrived.
Yeah. You put your credit card number into the app (so neither you nor the driver needs cash, and you don't have to hand over your card to the driver -- he never sees or has access your card), and the app sends a car using the GPS in your phone. You even get a little map showing exactly where your car is, so you know when to go outside. It's pretty spiffy.
And all pricing is local, but in most areas I have used it, the pricing is about half of a local cab.
And you get picked up a lot faster than a cab, unless you are in the heart of a city with tons of cabs.
Cabs are essentially obsolete today in most circumstances. And yes, the medallion owners are the ones that got screwed.
Not unlike the small bookstore owners after Amazon arrived.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 19, 2018 06:37 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: eleven at April 19, 2018 06:37 PM (+lOpA)
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OT: Really surprised to see San Diego joining Trump in fighting the illegal sanctuary bullshit. I would have though it'd only be the deep red California counties joining in.
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at April 19, 2018 06:39 PM (+dsLj)
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One more thing, Lyft and Uber send you a photo of your driver, and you can follow them on their apps to see where they are and how soon they'll pick you up. And you can rate them (and they can rate you if you're an ass).
We had an Uber driver who is a retiree who keeps umbrellas in the back of his vehicle. It was raining one time when we arrived at our destination and he got out, opened the umbrella, and gave it to us.
That was pretty special.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April
you are comparing uber and lyft to yellow cabs when you should be comparing them to car services. having a guy with a car service get your bags and provide an umbrella to get you in and out is the usual.
when you are using cabs day to day you don't have time for the driver to get in and out of the cab because you are in a hurry and he is probably stopped in traffic.
We had an Uber driver who is a retiree who keeps umbrellas in the back of his vehicle. It was raining one time when we arrived at our destination and he got out, opened the umbrella, and gave it to us.
That was pretty special.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April
you are comparing uber and lyft to yellow cabs when you should be comparing them to car services. having a guy with a car service get your bags and provide an umbrella to get you in and out is the usual.
when you are using cabs day to day you don't have time for the driver to get in and out of the cab because you are in a hurry and he is probably stopped in traffic.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:40 PM (MTjB1)
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Wish my keyboard was not freezing up again bcz I see significant differences in this cab/Uber deal as compared to Blcokbuster/Redbox, Buggies/Cars, Papers/Interent.
But to even correct the typos Ikve made would add another minute per typo, so I cannot. Very frustrating.
But I do see major differences in these comparisons.
But to even correct the typos Ikve made would add another minute per typo, so I cannot. Very frustrating.
But I do see major differences in these comparisons.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 19, 2018 06:40 PM (UXHfL)
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Hey, Bobby. How's the family?
Good? That's good.
*drops 4-inch stack of documents on Mueller's desk*
*also slides disc containing Dan Bongino's podcasts from #628 to #702 over*
So, listen, Bobby. We know that your "probe" is bogus and only designed to destroy the President while covering for Obama, Hillary, your and the rest of the Deep State's criminality.
We can do this two ways. First, you drop everything now and declare the President innocent, and I guarantee you will get a pardon from him when necessary.
McCabe? Sure, him, too. But not Lynch or Obama!
Okay?
So, that's option 1. This all goes away.
Option 2 is keep going the way you are going. The president will accomplish his entire agenda within the next six months, and frankly, he doesn't give fuckall about whether he loses the house and Senate for the republicans in November. They want him out, too, since they are just as Deep State as your sorry ass.
Go all the way to Impeachment, if you and Hillary want it that way. If that happens, EVERY bit of information we have on you, Barry, Hillz, Lynch, EVERYONE . . .
https://preview.tinyurl.com/Ultimatum-to-Mueller
Goes before the American people.
Door number one, or number two?
Bobby?
Good? That's good.
*drops 4-inch stack of documents on Mueller's desk*
*also slides disc containing Dan Bongino's podcasts from #628 to #702 over*
So, listen, Bobby. We know that your "probe" is bogus and only designed to destroy the President while covering for Obama, Hillary, your and the rest of the Deep State's criminality.
We can do this two ways. First, you drop everything now and declare the President innocent, and I guarantee you will get a pardon from him when necessary.
McCabe? Sure, him, too. But not Lynch or Obama!
Okay?
So, that's option 1. This all goes away.
Option 2 is keep going the way you are going. The president will accomplish his entire agenda within the next six months, and frankly, he doesn't give fuckall about whether he loses the house and Senate for the republicans in November. They want him out, too, since they are just as Deep State as your sorry ass.
Go all the way to Impeachment, if you and Hillary want it that way. If that happens, EVERY bit of information we have on you, Barry, Hillz, Lynch, EVERYONE . . .
https://preview.tinyurl.com/Ultimatum-to-Mueller
Goes before the American people.
Door number one, or number two?
Bobby?
Posted by: Sharkman, Channeling Rudy G at April 19, 2018 06:40 PM (BfOXk)
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no one forced the newspapers to buy licenses from the government.
that is a significant difference between newspapers and taxis.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:36 PM (MTjB1)
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You don't have to buy the medallions from the government. They change hands privately.
The public at large is not responsible for making the medallion holders whole. Why should the public at large pay their losses? Declare bankruptcy and move on.
that is a significant difference between newspapers and taxis.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:36 PM (MTjB1)
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You don't have to buy the medallions from the government. They change hands privately.
The public at large is not responsible for making the medallion holders whole. Why should the public at large pay their losses? Declare bankruptcy and move on.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:40 PM (pvjTE)
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Cabs are essentially obsolete today in most circumstances. And yes, the medallion owners are the ones that got screwed.
Not unlike the small bookstore owners after Amazon arrived.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April
all that is obsolete is the medallion system, not the cab.
Not unlike the small bookstore owners after Amazon arrived.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April
all that is obsolete is the medallion system, not the cab.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:40 PM (MTjB1)
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185 My understanding is that the dictionary entry for "shithole" has a map of Harrisburg's State Capitol Complex.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (CI+LH)
I hate you so much right now.
Because you're not lying, and I'm stuck there the vast majority of my life.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 19, 2018 06:21 PM (CI+LH)
I hate you so much right now.
Because you're not lying, and I'm stuck there the vast majority of my life.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:41 PM (yXU4O)
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President Donald Trump is adding former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and two former federal prosecutors to his Russia legal team, a source familiar with the matter tells The Daily Caller News Foundation.
The husband-and-wife team of Martin and Jane Raskin are the two other attorneys to join Trump's team, which is being led by Jay Sekulow. The Raskins, who operate a law firm in southern Florida, have worked in various U.S. attorney's offices as well as at Justice Department headquarters in Washington, D.C.
The husband-and-wife team of Martin and Jane Raskin are the two other attorneys to join Trump's team, which is being led by Jay Sekulow. The Raskins, who operate a law firm in southern Florida, have worked in various U.S. attorney's offices as well as at Justice Department headquarters in Washington, D.C.
Posted by: Sorry/ Not Sorry at April 19, 2018 06:42 PM (y3aQB)
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You don't have to buy the medallions from the government. They change hands privately.
The public at large is not responsible for making the medallion holders whole. Why should the public at large pay their losses? Declare bankruptcy and move on.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April
during the initial transaction the medallions were purchased from the government. the government also has had additional medallion sales, even within the last few years. you maybe be able to purchase the medallions in transactions between private entities but you cannot operate in the city without one.
The public at large is not responsible for making the medallion holders whole. Why should the public at large pay their losses? Declare bankruptcy and move on.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April
during the initial transaction the medallions were purchased from the government. the government also has had additional medallion sales, even within the last few years. you maybe be able to purchase the medallions in transactions between private entities but you cannot operate in the city without one.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:43 PM (MTjB1)
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OK I think I have the analogy sorted out.
The closest I can get to Mueller investigation is:
The police investigate you for killing your wife. You and your wife show up at the police station and she says to the Detective "I'm alive, he didn't kill me." The Detective say to her "Quiet, or we'll charge you with obstruction of justice." Then the police try to charge you with lying to the police because you didn't tell them you were going to make them look like fools."
The closest I can get to Mueller investigation is:
The police investigate you for killing your wife. You and your wife show up at the police station and she says to the Detective "I'm alive, he didn't kill me." The Detective say to her "Quiet, or we'll charge you with obstruction of justice." Then the police try to charge you with lying to the police because you didn't tell them you were going to make them look like fools."
Posted by: An Observation at April 19, 2018 06:43 PM (QGEI2)
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250 The public at large is not responsible for making the medallion holders whole. Why should the public at large pay their losses? Declare bankruptcy and move on.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:40 PM (pvjTE)
While I don't disagree, I do think that Uber/Lyft drivers should be held to the same insurance requirements that a cab would be.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:40 PM (pvjTE)
While I don't disagree, I do think that Uber/Lyft drivers should be held to the same insurance requirements that a cab would be.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:43 PM (yXU4O)
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Wow they just showed dead Prince laying on the floor on CBS news. Ghouls
Posted by: f'd at <<<
Yeah, Radio said he made a mistake - thought he was taking one thing but took fyntinal instead. Right, he knows how to run a billion dollar business, hands on, but...
This is a promo in their war onlocals drugs.
Posted by: f'd at <<<
Yeah, Radio said he made a mistake - thought he was taking one thing but took fyntinal instead. Right, he knows how to run a billion dollar business, hands on, but...
This is a promo in their war on
Posted by: gNewt at April 19, 2018 06:44 PM (Sc+fF)
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during the initial transaction the medallions were purchased from the government. the government also has had additional medallion sales, even within the last few years. you maybe be able to purchase the medallions in transactions between private entities but you cannot operate in the city without one.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:43 PM (MTjB1)
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Yes, I'm aware. Point is, the government didn't run the price up. That occurred outside of government control. The medallion holders should be the ones to eat their own losses, not everyone else.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:43 PM (MTjB1)
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Yes, I'm aware. Point is, the government didn't run the price up. That occurred outside of government control. The medallion holders should be the ones to eat their own losses, not everyone else.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:45 PM (pvjTE)
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https://fxn.ws/2K0gT9T
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New emails bolster GOP claims of FBI, DOJ 'coordination' on Clinton case response | Fox News
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New emails bolster GOP claims of FBI, DOJ 'coordination' on Clinton case response | Fox News
Posted by: Sorry/ Not Sorry at April 19, 2018 06:46 PM (y3aQB)
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> second, you seem to suggest that anyone securing a government permit is engaged in a rigged game
Nope. While I do think there are way too many occupations that require permits, there's no overt conspiracy to limit the number of barbershops (for example). In general, anyone who has the training, passes the exam and pays the fee (which is not anywhere near one million dollars -- a barber license in my state is $150/year) can open a barbershop.
That's not the case with taxi medallions. The taxi game is rigged.
Nope. While I do think there are way too many occupations that require permits, there's no overt conspiracy to limit the number of barbershops (for example). In general, anyone who has the training, passes the exam and pays the fee (which is not anywhere near one million dollars -- a barber license in my state is $150/year) can open a barbershop.
That's not the case with taxi medallions. The taxi game is rigged.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:46 PM (Q7M5N)
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While I don't disagree, I do think that Uber/Lyft drivers should be held to the same insurance requirements that a cab would be.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:43 PM (yXU4O)
Uber and Lyft do require their drivers to have a level of insurance significantly above beyond the minimum legal, in California anyway. When your insurance company figures out you are driving for them--and it will--it will insist on a higher level of coverage too.
On the other hand, just about any homeowner in California had better be carrying a much higher level of insurance beyond minimums already, because s/he has something to lose if s/he is at fault in a serious accident.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:43 PM (yXU4O)
Uber and Lyft do require their drivers to have a level of insurance significantly above beyond the minimum legal, in California anyway. When your insurance company figures out you are driving for them--and it will--it will insist on a higher level of coverage too.
On the other hand, just about any homeowner in California had better be carrying a much higher level of insurance beyond minimums already, because s/he has something to lose if s/he is at fault in a serious accident.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 06:47 PM (ujg0T)
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no one forced the newspapers to buy licenses from the government.
that is a significant difference between newspapers and taxis.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:36 PM (MTjB1)
Nobody forced anyone to buy a medallion.
The pricing peaked in 2013, and has fallen ever since. Just like a stock with a new technology competitor, they chose to hang on instead of selling for a loss and getting at least a portion of their investment.
Ever heard of Eastman Kodak? Borders Books? They didn't go to zero overnight. Took years.
And some enterprising people bought a bunch of efficient cars and rented them out to other drivers, for a fee. Essentially the taxi model, without medallions, within Uber. This is going on all over the country.
no one forced the newspapers to buy licenses from the government.
that is a significant difference between newspapers and taxis.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:36 PM (MTjB1)
Nobody forced anyone to buy a medallion.
The pricing peaked in 2013, and has fallen ever since. Just like a stock with a new technology competitor, they chose to hang on instead of selling for a loss and getting at least a portion of their investment.
Ever heard of Eastman Kodak? Borders Books? They didn't go to zero overnight. Took years.
And some enterprising people bought a bunch of efficient cars and rented them out to other drivers, for a fee. Essentially the taxi model, without medallions, within Uber. This is going on all over the country.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 19, 2018 06:47 PM (UsCnO)
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> Point is, the government didn't run the price up.
Yes, they did, by artificially limiting the number of available medallions, which was done due to lobbying by the medallion owners.
Yes, they did, by artificially limiting the number of available medallions, which was done due to lobbying by the medallion owners.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:47 PM (Q7M5N)
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He stays wealthy and greases palms, his drivers barely make ends meet.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 19, 2018 06:36 PM (QHIPb)
Forget it Jinx, it's DC town!
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 19, 2018 06:36 PM (QHIPb)
Forget it Jinx, it's DC town!
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at April 19, 2018 06:48 PM (n9EOP)
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While I don't disagree, I do think that Uber/Lyft drivers should be held to the same insurance requirements that a cab would be.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:43 PM (yXU4O)
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Aren't they treated like other car services and limos and whatnot? Really, everyone should be treated the same. Same requirements for cabs, limos, ubers, etc.
Posted by: Hikaru at April 19, 2018 06:43 PM (yXU4O)
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Aren't they treated like other car services and limos and whatnot? Really, everyone should be treated the same. Same requirements for cabs, limos, ubers, etc.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:49 PM (pvjTE)
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> Not unlike the small bookstore owners after Amazon arrived.
Not the smart ones. The smart ones sell their stuff *through* Amazon nowadays. Yeah, Amazon takes a cut, but Amazon also brings a billion people into your "store" and you don't have to pay for expensive retail space.
Not the smart ones. The smart ones sell their stuff *through* Amazon nowadays. Yeah, Amazon takes a cut, but Amazon also brings a billion people into your "store" and you don't have to pay for expensive retail space.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:50 PM (Q7M5N)
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Ace
..don't think that Rudy and the treason crowd will be 'negotiating ' in the way many of us might use that word.
I'm thinking phrases that mention ' your mother' and dick strength may be in the 'negotiations'.
Best guess: this thing gets settled in an unique, historic manner.
..don't think that Rudy and the treason crowd will be 'negotiating ' in the way many of us might use that word.
I'm thinking phrases that mention ' your mother' and dick strength may be in the 'negotiations'.
Best guess: this thing gets settled in an unique, historic manner.
Posted by: Redgrains at April 19, 2018 06:50 PM (WPxnj)
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After all the smoke clears PDT is gonna be the only one left standing
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 06:51 PM (qz/Gf)
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Point is, the government didn't run the price up.
That occurred outside of government control.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:45 PM (pvjTE)
Not quite. The government should have increased the number of medallions to match the demand for cab rides.
But they didn't, so the price skyrocketed.
New York City has about the same number of cabs as it did in the 1940s.
That occurred outside of government control.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:45 PM (pvjTE)
Not quite. The government should have increased the number of medallions to match the demand for cab rides.
But they didn't, so the price skyrocketed.
New York City has about the same number of cabs as it did in the 1940s.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 06:51 PM (wYseH)
Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at April 19, 2018 06:53 PM (Gim9y)
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263 > Point is, the government didn't run the price up.
Yes, they did, by artificially limiting the number of available medallions, which was done due to lobbying by the medallion owners.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:47 PM (Q7M5N)
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Heh. As I previously commented (scroll up), the medallion system was put in place to reduce competition. But, the government was not the one collecting $1.3M for a medallion. That happened outside government.
Burn the whole thing down. Let competition rule.
Yes, they did, by artificially limiting the number of available medallions, which was done due to lobbying by the medallion owners.
Posted by: Rudyard Muhfuggin' Kipling at April 19, 2018 06:47 PM (Q7M5N)
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Heh. As I previously commented (scroll up), the medallion system was put in place to reduce competition. But, the government was not the one collecting $1.3M for a medallion. That happened outside government.
Burn the whole thing down. Let competition rule.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:54 PM (pvjTE)
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Aren't they treated like other car services and limos and whatnot? Really, everyone should be treated the same. Same requirements for cabs, limos, ubers, etc.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:49 PM (pvjTE)
If you are driving something like a stretch limo or a large bus, and Uber *does* have a "Select" service for that, yes, there is. (Class B Commercial in my state).
However, for a typical passenger vehicle, the typical Class C license that just about anyone has will do.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:49 PM (pvjTE)
If you are driving something like a stretch limo or a large bus, and Uber *does* have a "Select" service for that, yes, there is. (Class B Commercial in my state).
However, for a typical passenger vehicle, the typical Class C license that just about anyone has will do.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 06:57 PM (ujg0T)
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Good to see you, Y5! =)
Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at April
APG! Where have you been?
Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at April
APG! Where have you been?
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:58 PM (MTjB1)
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Mueller has a very shabby history, objectively, but somehow or another he has traded on his "reputation, which says more about D.C. than anything else. Even using the SDNY as a proxy didn't keep his rainmaker reputation intact after the blatantly Gestapo-style raid on Cohen's office. It is possible Mueller wants to know who he has to fuck to get off this movie, and watching Comey crash and burn may have fueled that impulse.
Lots of qualifiers there, and I thought and still think Mueller was supposed to conduct a sham impeachment investigation until Democrats controlled the House, if that happened. The costs may exceed the benefits now. That's the most optimistic thing I've thought about this cluster, and likely wrong.
Lots of qualifiers there, and I thought and still think Mueller was supposed to conduct a sham impeachment investigation until Democrats controlled the House, if that happened. The costs may exceed the benefits now. That's the most optimistic thing I've thought about this cluster, and likely wrong.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 19, 2018 06:58 PM (tvTpQ)
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Make a criminal referrals for Rosenstein and Mueller on their personal corruption as relates to Uranium One, and be done with it.
Why did Cohen drop his suit against buzzfeed? To focus on defending himself. Why would RR and Mueller drop their investigation?
Why did Cohen drop his suit against buzzfeed? To focus on defending himself. Why would RR and Mueller drop their investigation?
Posted by: Rather Not at April 19, 2018 06:58 PM (oPogG)
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269 Point is, the government didn't run the price up.
That occurred outside of government control.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:45 PM (pvjTE)
Not quite. The government should have increased the number of medallions to match the demand for cab rides.
But they didn't, so the price skyrocketed.
New York City has about the same number of cabs as it did in the 1940s.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 06:51 PM (wYseH)
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I am aware. The point is, the government didn't say, hey, the price for a medallion this year is $1.3M. That happened outside of government control.
The reason the government didn't increase the number of medallions is that would defeat the whole purpose. They want to reduce competition by only letting in a few players. The way to fix that is not more medallions. It's no medallions. A simple permitting process, where the company has to have insurance, maintain its vehicles, and make sure its drivers are properly licensed and not criminals should be sufficient. No limit on permits. Anyone who meets the qualifications gets a permit.
That occurred outside of government control.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:45 PM (pvjTE)
Not quite. The government should have increased the number of medallions to match the demand for cab rides.
But they didn't, so the price skyrocketed.
New York City has about the same number of cabs as it did in the 1940s.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 06:51 PM (wYseH)
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I am aware. The point is, the government didn't say, hey, the price for a medallion this year is $1.3M. That happened outside of government control.
The reason the government didn't increase the number of medallions is that would defeat the whole purpose. They want to reduce competition by only letting in a few players. The way to fix that is not more medallions. It's no medallions. A simple permitting process, where the company has to have insurance, maintain its vehicles, and make sure its drivers are properly licensed and not criminals should be sufficient. No limit on permits. Anyone who meets the qualifications gets a permit.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 06:59 PM (pvjTE)
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If you are driving something like a stretch limo or a large bus, and Uber *does* have a "Select" service for that, yes, there is. (Class B Commercial in my state).
However, for a typical passenger vehicle, the typical Class C license that just about anyone has will do.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 06:57 PM (ujg0T)
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Apples and oranges. My question was not about drivers licenses, it was about insurance requirements.
If you are driving something like a stretch limo or a large bus, and Uber *does* have a "Select" service for that, yes, there is. (Class B Commercial in my state).
However, for a typical passenger vehicle, the typical Class C license that just about anyone has will do.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 06:57 PM (ujg0T)
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Apples and oranges. My question was not about drivers licenses, it was about insurance requirements.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 07:00 PM (pvjTE)
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Apples and oranges. My question was not about drivers licenses, it was about insurance requirements.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 07:00 PM (pvjTE)
Oh, my misunderstanding. See my #261 above.
Uber and Lyft do require their drivers to have a level of insurance significantly above and beyond the minimum legal, in California anyway. When your insurance company figures out you are driving for them--and it will--it will insist on a higher level of coverage too.
On the other hand, just about any homeowner in California had better be carrying a much higher level of insurance beyond minimums already, because s/he has something to lose if s/he is at fault in a serious accident.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 07:00 PM (pvjTE)
Oh, my misunderstanding. See my #261 above.
Uber and Lyft do require their drivers to have a level of insurance significantly above and beyond the minimum legal, in California anyway. When your insurance company figures out you are driving for them--and it will--it will insist on a higher level of coverage too.
On the other hand, just about any homeowner in California had better be carrying a much higher level of insurance beyond minimums already, because s/he has something to lose if s/he is at fault in a serious accident.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 07:05 PM (ujg0T)
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I took a car service to the Airport today because Uber fucked up last time. More expensive but less worry and hell the Navy paid anyway
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 07:05 PM (qz/Gf)
Posted by: West at April 19, 2018 07:11 PM (2835Q)
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Uber and Lyft do require their drivers to have a level of insurance significantly above and beyond the minimum legal, in California anyway. When your insurance company figures out you are driving for them--and it will--it will insist on a higher level of coverage too.
On the other hand, just about any homeowner in California had better be carrying a much higher level of insurance beyond minimums already, because s/he has something to lose if s/he is at fault in a serious accident.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 07:05 PM (ujg0T)
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Right. But, the issue was someone was talking about the unfairness of taxi drivers being required to have more insurance than ubers. I questioned whether the ubers were just being treated the same, insurance wise, as limos and other car services. Point being, it's not just ubers that get the better treatment, it's all car services.
On the other hand, just about any homeowner in California had better be carrying a much higher level of insurance beyond minimums already, because s/he has something to lose if s/he is at fault in a serious accident.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 07:05 PM (ujg0T)
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Right. But, the issue was someone was talking about the unfairness of taxi drivers being required to have more insurance than ubers. I questioned whether the ubers were just being treated the same, insurance wise, as limos and other car services. Point being, it's not just ubers that get the better treatment, it's all car services.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 07:13 PM (pvjTE)
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APG! Where have you been?
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:58 PM (MTjB1)
Ha! Wish I could say up to no good, but life isn't that exciting, regrettably!Looking for a job, writing. Trying to not throw things across the room when my liberal Facebook friends act like fucking idiots and say absolutely stupid shit. (I think one ex I am friends with is about to set up a Virgin Mary type shrine for David Hogg, complete with candle.) How the HELL are you?
APG! Where have you been?
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 06:58 PM (MTjB1)
Ha! Wish I could say up to no good, but life isn't that exciting, regrettably!Looking for a job, writing. Trying to not throw things across the room when my liberal Facebook friends act like fucking idiots and say absolutely stupid shit. (I think one ex I am friends with is about to set up a Virgin Mary type shrine for David Hogg, complete with candle.) How the HELL are you?
Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at April 19, 2018 07:13 PM (Gim9y)
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238 >>Yeah right.
Right after I start my reign as the King of Siam.
Google False Statements Act, your royal Highness.
It amazes me how resistant to what is actually happening some people are. Trump is winning. Mueller has nothing.
Trump has no duty whatsoever to testify before Mueller. Zippo. The only obligation is political, how would it look if Trump gave Mueller the Heisman.
That's the negotiation.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 06:35 PM (/tuJf)
Unlike the movies, the good guy never wins.
Right after I start my reign as the King of Siam.
Google False Statements Act, your royal Highness.
It amazes me how resistant to what is actually happening some people are. Trump is winning. Mueller has nothing.
Trump has no duty whatsoever to testify before Mueller. Zippo. The only obligation is political, how would it look if Trump gave Mueller the Heisman.
That's the negotiation.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 19, 2018 06:35 PM (/tuJf)
Unlike the movies, the good guy never wins.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 19, 2018 07:15 PM (3Pma+)
Posted by: Redgrains at April 19, 2018 07:16 PM (WPxnj)
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Ha! Wish I could say up to no good, but life isn't that exciting, regrettably!Looking for a job, writing. Trying to not throw things across the room when my liberal Facebook friends act like fucking idiots and say absolutely stupid shit. (I think one ex I am friends with is about to set up a Virgin Mary type shrine for David Hogg, complete with candle.) How the HELL are you?
Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at April
hey, have some stuff to finish. will email later.
Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at April
hey, have some stuff to finish. will email later.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 07:18 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: mAggressor at April 19, 2018 07:23 PM (XcgmW)
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I feel too much like Charlie Brown, and the GOP is Lucy.
I met Rudy once, and although I think he could be a stronger 2A advocate, I liked other things he had to say and in person, 1-1, he came across as pretty genuine. For that matter, so did Slate Gordon. Other politicians I have met have seemed slimy. or like a playa.
So I HOPE that the people saying that Trump has shit on Mueller and things are about to go badly for the Deep State are correct...? But I have been burned so many times, man...
I met Rudy once, and although I think he could be a stronger 2A advocate, I liked other things he had to say and in person, 1-1, he came across as pretty genuine. For that matter, so did Slate Gordon. Other politicians I have met have seemed slimy. or like a playa.
So I HOPE that the people saying that Trump has shit on Mueller and things are about to go badly for the Deep State are correct...? But I have been burned so many times, man...
Posted by: atomicplaygirl - I survived GNAMM 2017 and all I got was this lousy nic at April 19, 2018 07:23 PM (Gim9y)
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Right. But, the issue was someone was talking about the unfairness of taxi drivers being required to have more insurance than ubers. I questioned whether the ubers were just being treated the same, insurance wise, as limos and other car services. Point being, it's not just ubers that get the better treatment, it's all car services.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 07:13 PM (pvjTE)
Of course, the issue of Direct Employee (of cab or shuttle company) vs. Independent Contractor (Of Uber, Lyft, or perhaps some cab companies) comes into play here too.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 07:13 PM (pvjTE)
Of course, the issue of Direct Employee (of cab or shuttle company) vs. Independent Contractor (Of Uber, Lyft, or perhaps some cab companies) comes into play here too.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 07:24 PM (ujg0T)
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The law offices of Bulgur, Hatfill & Rosatom are on the job!
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at April 19, 2018 07:25 PM (2NqXo)
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dems need to get foreigners and pre-teens
into the voting booths to win
tell me again why the GOP is afraid
to exercise power
into the voting booths to win
tell me again why the GOP is afraid
to exercise power
Posted by: mAggressor at April 19, 2018 07:28 PM (XcgmW)
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Surber quoted Trump from last year where Trump said he had his own team investigating Mueller and crew. I think Trump had PIs digging up all the dirt on Mueller.
Posted by: MAGA at April 19, 2018 07:31 PM (LnOh3)
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290 dems need to get foreigners and pre-teens
into the voting booths to win
tell me again why the GOP is afraid
to exercise power
Posted by: mAggressor at April 19, 2018 07:28 PM (XcgmW)
Honestly? When you live in the DC echo chamber of all Democrat slanted news all the time, I think it begins to wear on many of them and they go wobbly.
Like that psychology experiment where a group of planted people all claim a measured line compared to another is longer or shorter than it really is and the test subject or "mark" starts to alter his or her answers just to fit in.
That's my charitable answer, and for a good many it is true.
Others, I suspect, have sold out.
into the voting booths to win
tell me again why the GOP is afraid
to exercise power
Posted by: mAggressor at April 19, 2018 07:28 PM (XcgmW)
Honestly? When you live in the DC echo chamber of all Democrat slanted news all the time, I think it begins to wear on many of them and they go wobbly.
Like that psychology experiment where a group of planted people all claim a measured line compared to another is longer or shorter than it really is and the test subject or "mark" starts to alter his or her answers just to fit in.
That's my charitable answer, and for a good many it is true.
Others, I suspect, have sold out.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 19, 2018 07:32 PM (ujg0T)
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Rosenstein wrote the memo justifying Comey's firing--and then named Mueller because Comey got fired. Not to mention signing the FISA warrant application.
They are only setting this new trap because they failed to bait President Trump into firing Mueller last week.
Dirty Sewer Rats.
They are only setting this new trap because they failed to bait President Trump into firing Mueller last week.
Dirty Sewer Rats.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 19, 2018 07:56 PM (Ndje9)
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what if Giuliana says to Her Mueller......ya wanna see the pics and chics....young stuff...... Illary had on Weiners computer?....cause the NYPD would sure like to leak em...some of those pics made cops cry....I Might be able to stop the cops....
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at April 19, 2018 07:57 PM (kHv/o)
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As to the latter: It's a bad idea. It signals vulnerability and will
just encourage them. Prosecutors only negotiate plea deals to spare them
the use of some resources in some cases.
Mueller does have one resource: public opinion. He is rapidly exhausting it everyone knows it. Guiliani may be just the guy to appeal to Mueller on this point. Not sure how old Mueller is, but he may still have aspirations beyond being the Special Counsel Who Could Not Bring Trump Down - if so, Guiliani might know a way to appeal to Mueller.
Trump really is pretty smart, and I don't think he would take this step without some sort of inkling that it might work. In any event, Guiliani isn't a bad guy to have on your team.
just encourage them. Prosecutors only negotiate plea deals to spare them
the use of some resources in some cases.
Mueller does have one resource: public opinion. He is rapidly exhausting it everyone knows it. Guiliani may be just the guy to appeal to Mueller on this point. Not sure how old Mueller is, but he may still have aspirations beyond being the Special Counsel Who Could Not Bring Trump Down - if so, Guiliani might know a way to appeal to Mueller.
Trump really is pretty smart, and I don't think he would take this step without some sort of inkling that it might work. In any event, Guiliani isn't a bad guy to have on your team.
Posted by: one-eyed cat peepin' in the seafood store at April 19, 2018 08:05 PM (/sTHK)
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Dear Jackstraw,
You have obvious inside info or you are remarkably astute.
Im going with both and hearty THANK YOU.
Seriously dude, I comb these threads for your inspiring words.
I have not yet (an RCH away) given up on sessions and I too believe that things are different with Trump at the Helm. When I read the story about Rudy I could hear the turd filing up in Muellers pants.
Rudy doesn't fuck around and his 'negotiation' is one that I highly suspect will not yield an inch to Mueller. Quite the contrary.
The undefined scope of this "investigation" is about to shrink to the size of a Cheerio.
You have obvious inside info or you are remarkably astute.
Im going with both and hearty THANK YOU.
Seriously dude, I comb these threads for your inspiring words.
I have not yet (an RCH away) given up on sessions and I too believe that things are different with Trump at the Helm. When I read the story about Rudy I could hear the turd filing up in Muellers pants.
Rudy doesn't fuck around and his 'negotiation' is one that I highly suspect will not yield an inch to Mueller. Quite the contrary.
The undefined scope of this "investigation" is about to shrink to the size of a Cheerio.
Posted by: Getcha Pull at April 19, 2018 08:38 PM (aR6C/)
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Rudy's not there to negotiate Trump escape.... He's there to negotiate Deep State LyinRat Surrender!....Rudy's specialty is taking down corrupt cops and politicians....he's not a defense attorney he's a Prosecutor...
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at April 19, 2018 08:44 PM (kHv/o)
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Explanation of the NYC cab medallion system from Wiki.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicabs_of_New_York_City
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicabs_of_New_York_City
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at April 19, 2018 08:50 PM (TPimP)
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"You're not the target. But should you get caught up in the mile-wide, mile-deep, fine-mesh fishing net we're trolling the ocean with, then you had it coming."
Posted by: red speck at April 19, 2018 09:00 PM (gS3OW)
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Longime lurker here - red speck has it right.
If you are involved in an investigation with the feds you can be a witness, subject or target. "Targets" are being investigated with a view to a prosecution.
Subjects are not under the same level of investigation as targets, but are considered persons who may have committed crimes.
Witnesses are everyone else.
Your status can change as the investigation continues.
I was a witness in a long running corporate investigation. I was questioned only once, but it made an impression.
Trump not currently being a "target" means nothing. It certainly does not mean that the investigation is "not about him" - paraphrasing the Fox anchor.
If you are involved in an investigation with the feds you can be a witness, subject or target. "Targets" are being investigated with a view to a prosecution.
Subjects are not under the same level of investigation as targets, but are considered persons who may have committed crimes.
Witnesses are everyone else.
Your status can change as the investigation continues.
I was a witness in a long running corporate investigation. I was questioned only once, but it made an impression.
Trump not currently being a "target" means nothing. It certainly does not mean that the investigation is "not about him" - paraphrasing the Fox anchor.
Posted by: nocargocults at April 19, 2018 09:19 PM (jCufr)
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First negotiation session between Rudy and Bobby is gonna be real short:
Bob, how about we cut to the chase? I seen the shit on Tonys laptop.
Bob, how about we cut to the chase? I seen the shit on Tonys laptop.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 19, 2018 10:01 PM (3d0hn)
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