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Wednesday Overnight Open Thread (4/18/18 )
Quote I
“The growth of the Internet will slow drastically, as the flaw in ‘Metcalfe’s law’—which states that the number of potential connections in a network is proportional to the square of the number of participants—becomes apparent: most people have nothing to say to each other! By 2005 or so, it will become clear that the Internet’s impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine’s.” -Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman, 1998, via Zero Hedge
Quote II
“Republican Party swampers in Washington have come to the surface to oppose my candidacy for the U.S. Senate.” “West Virginians are aware that McConnell cannot vote in their election. They want him to mind his own business and do his job. A job he has not done now for over 30 years. Balance the budget Mitch and stay out of West Virginia, Don Blakenship
Quote III
“Sean Hannity is an advocate for Donald Trump,” Limbaugh added. “And in this day and age, advocates for Donald Trump are no different than Trump in that they have to be destroyed, they have to be targeted, they have to be held up for ridicule because it’s all about getting Trump. Every bit of this is about getting Donald Trump. The Washington establishment cannot allow for Donald Trump to succeed. He’s an outsider.” Rush Limbaugh
A new study suggests that transgender and gender non-conforming children and adolescents may be more likely to develop depression and other mental health conditions, compared with individuals whose gender identity matches their assigned gender at birth. Researchers have identified a greater risk of mental health conditions among youth who are transgender and gender non-conforming.
The research was conducted at the Kaiser Permanente Southern California Department of Research & Evaluation in Pasadena. Study co-author Tracy A. Becerra-Culqui, Ph.D., and colleagues recently reported their findings in the journal Pediatrics.
Nothing. Nothing is too good for our kids or our money.
The National Science Foundation is expanding a study of transgender children as young as three years old, giving the project's researcher an additional $1 million. Kristina Olson, a researcher at the University of Washington, received the 2018 Alan T. Waterman Award, the nation's "highest honor for a young scientist or engineer," for her work studying the gender identities of toddlers.
Jefferson, Iowa had a good idea. Their P.R. campaign wasn't.
The small town of Jefferson, Iowa, has suspended its program of shooting feral cats after a public outcry condemning the town's actions as inhumane. In the aftermath of the uproar, The Washington Post reports that, City administrator Mike Palmer said Friday that Mayor Craig Berry told council members Tuesday that he’d discussed the practice in a meeting with officials from the Animal Protection and Education organization and the Animal Rescue League of Iowa. The decision to suspend the shooting of feral cats came soon after that.Politicians who don't pussy-foot around. I like that.
Zuckerberg thought the grilling he had on Capitol Hill was bad. This could be worse for Face Book, a billion dollar lawsuit.
Facebook could owe billions of dollars for using facial recognition after a judge approved a pending lawsuit against the social network. California judge James Donato ruled on Monday that the lawsuit, first filed in 2015, will finally proceed as a class-action case. It alleges Facebook is in violation of an Illinois state law that prohibits the collection of biometric data without written consent. Three plaintiffs are seeking $5,000 in penalties per offense for every time Facebook used facial recognition on a user in Illinois without their explicit permission. There is a chance Facebook could owe millions of people as the case includes users in the state who the social network created and stored facial recognition algorithms for after June 7, 2011, when the “tag suggestions” tool launched. Judge Donato put the extent of the damages into perspective, “Facebook seems to believe statutory damages could amount to billions of dollars.”
Lies, damned lies and statistics.
Someone in the 19th century (Mark Twain attributed it to Benjamin Disraeli, but that’s dubious) said that there are three forms of lying: lies, damned lies, and statistics. If you would like a beautiful example of the last category of mendacity, check out David Leonhardt’s April 15th column in the New York Times, entitled (try not to laugh) “The Democrats Are the Party of Fiscal Responsibility.”
The creepy little f*cker is at it again. Parkland HS agitator calling for more boycotts.
After starting an advertiser boycott of Fox News Channel host Laura Ingraham, gun-control activist David Hogg has set his sights on two new targets — iconic gun manufacturer Smith & Wesson and its capital backers. In a series of tweets Tuesday afternoon, Mr. Hogg sicced his 764,000 Twitter followers on five investment companies, singling out two most of all — Blackrock and Vanguard Group.
Wouldn't it be a shame if backers of these companies demonstrated in front of his basement bedroom. Wink/Nod
The Softest Generation whining that the sky is falling.
The Washington Post informed its readers this month that college students are going hungry, in a report titled, “The hidden crisis on college campuses: Many students don’t have enough to eat.” Two days later, the Kansas City Star reported even more urgently, “Think college students are privileged? Nearly a third are hungry and homeless.” So what’s going on? Are American college students really going hungry and living on the streets? Eh, not so much.
April 19, 2013, Storm Thorgerson, whose album cover artwork includes Pink Floyd's The Dark Side of The Moon died aged 69. A childhood friend of the founding members of the band, he became their designer-in-chief. His credits also include albums by Led Zeppelin, Peter Gabriel and Muse. In 2003, Thorgerson suffered a stroke, from which he recovered. He was later diagnosed with an undisclosed form of cancer, which he battled for several years. via thisdayinmusic.com
April 19, 1987, Aretha Franklin and George Michael started a two week run at No.1 on the US singles chart with 'I Knew You Were Waiting' also a No.1 in the UK. Aretha Franklin set a record for the artist with the longest gap between US No.1 singles, it had been 19 years, 10 months from her last hit 'Respect' in June 1967. via thisdayinmusic.com
Money isn't everything. Meet a real charmer. I hear she's single.
A woman blew every last cent of her father’s inheritance money within just nine months, including $150,000 on drugs. Brodie Bond,from Morwel, in Australia, successfully fought for a huge slice of her father’s will, $220,000 to be exact, after he left her nothing when he died. But rather than using that money wisely, the 28-year-old blew much of it in less than a year.
A website run by the US Justice Department and used to gather information about missing and abducted children is redirecting visitors to porn web pages with names such as “schoolgirl porn” and “ungrateful huge boobs Indian wife being a slut,” Gizmodo has discovered. A redirect bug on the AmberAlert.gov allows anyone to create backlinks on the DOJ-run site—functionality apparently too good to pass up for some porn bots. The Amber Alert site is being manipulated by at least a half dozen porn pages (and an untold number of others) likely in an effort to boost their Google rankings.
Each winter, for close to a century now, hundreds of Amish and Mennonite families have travelled from their homes in icy quarters of the U.S. and Canada to Pinecraft, a small, sunny neighborhood in Sarasota, Florida. Arriving on chartered buses specializing in the transportation of “Plain people” from areas such as Lancaster, Pennsylvania, and Holmes County, Ohio, they rent modest bungalows and stay for weeks, or sometimes months, at a time. It’s vacation. For many, it’s the one time of the year that they spend with people from communities other than their own.
What could have been a horrible ending turned out pretty well for this Genius Award Winner.
An Estonian tourist known as Pavel, had one too many drinks at Cervinia Resort when he decided to call it a night and head back to his hotel. Unfortunately, he took a wrong turn and began heading up the mountainside.
Every once in a while the youth of today surprise us. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.
This 19-year-old college baseball player was heartbroken over his grandma’s inability to watch his game – so instead of allowing her to miss it, he and his team brought the game to her. Due to the chemotherapy and radiation treatments that Marilyn Seavers had endured to fight her stage IV lung cancer, she was too weak to leave the house for her grandson’s game in March. Zach, who was very close with his grandma before she died, was determined for her to see him play in a college uniform.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 09:57 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 18, 2018 09:59 PM (e9G8E)
Makes total sense.
Posted by: Tanner Boyle at April 18, 2018 10:00 PM (2wOtx)
Posted by: boulder t' hobo at April 18, 2018 10:00 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Paul Krugman at April 18, 2018 10:00 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 18, 2018 10:01 PM (e9G8E)
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:01 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: ibguy at April 18, 2018 10:01 PM (vUcdz)
This is evil. Pure evil.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:02 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 18, 2018 10:02 PM (d4iVA)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 10:02 PM (QxXRY)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:02 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:03 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 18, 2018 10:03 PM (UiRxW)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:04 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 18, 2018 10:05 PM (7LY+6)
Posted by: Tonypete at April 18, 2018 10:05 PM (9rIkM)
Alouette, gentille Alouette
Alouette je te plumerai
Je te plumerai la tete
Je te plumerai la tete
Allouete,Allouette
O-o-o-o-oh
Alouette, gentille Alouette
Alouette je te plumerai
Alouette, gentille Alouette
Alouette je te plumerai
Je te plumerai le bec
Je te plumerai le bec
et la tete
et la tete
Alouette, Alouette
O-o-o-o-oh
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 10:05 PM (c/EDo)
-Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 18, 2018 10:05 PM (7LY+6)
I'm a Gold Card holder.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:05 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:05 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 18, 2018 10:06 PM (EZebt)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 18, 2018 10:06 PM (DMUuz)
-Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:05 PM (NWiLs)
You should sue someone.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:07 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: ALH at April 18, 2018 10:07 PM (YYn2L)
Posted by: Paul Krugman at April 18, 2018 10:07 PM (UiRxW)
Hard to top pbhpo getting a Noble Peace Prize for not being George Bush. Then ending peace in Libya and subsequently Western Europe. The sad consequences are the largest since Hitler was in power.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 18, 2018 10:07 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 18, 2018 10:07 PM (7LY+6)
Looks like his prediction fell short.
Posted by: boulder t' hobo at April 18, 2018 10:00 PM (6FqZa)
There are plenty of people on the Internet to whom I have nothing to say. But I think I could spare a "FOAD" for Krugtron.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2018 10:07 PM (efC8N)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 10:05 PM
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1 If I want it?
I'll take it.
*pins medal to chest*
*takes home trophy*
*lives la vida loca*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 09:57 PM (Ckg4U)
We gotta get Ace a better time machine.
Posted by: filbert at April 18, 2018 10:07 PM (953wK)
-Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:05 PM (NWiLs)
You should sue someone.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:07 PM (Ckg4U)
Wouldn't make me feel any better.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:07 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 18, 2018 10:08 PM (d4iVA)
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Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at April 18, 2018 10:08 PM (mMeIQ)
This is evil. Pure evil.
Posted by: Insomniac
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After NIH funded the $3.5 Million for the 'Why are Lesbians Fat', I would believe anything.
You are completely correct, this transcends absurd, and transitions to evil.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 10:08 PM (7ThJ3)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 18, 2018 10:09 PM (hyuyC)
Posted by: Monk at April 18, 2018 10:09 PM (ve0bY)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM (7LY+6)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM (IcT7t)
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilence Committee supporter at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM (tU+ul)
Posted by: irright at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM (RVcmP)
Posted by: Minuteman at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM (gnhna)
Posted by: Vendette at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM (RhMIc)
Posted by: Farmer at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM (yJ1e6)
-Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:07 PM (NWiLs)
I could make you laugh, but you won't talk to me.
That's okay. The Morons and 'ettes do a good job.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Monk at April 18, 2018 10:09 PM (ve0bY)
You gotta admit, being completely, utterly wrong is pretty much Krugman's entire schtick.
Posted by: filbert at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM (953wK)
Posted by: Jim at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Monk at April 18, 2018 10:11 PM (ve0bY)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at April 18, 2018 10:12 PM (PtTcP)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:12 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:13 PM (8O3HH)
Ah geez, Facebook being bankrupted in a class action suit?!? Then how will I ever foodblog again???
I'll have to go back to eating my dinner on the streets!
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:13 PM (eMKNe)
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In 1994, I approached the Engineering Manager (in a high tech company!) and suggested that we ought to establish a presence on the internet.
He stopped by the R&D department a day or so later and told me that he didn't think there was any reason to do that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 10:13 PM (7ThJ3)
If you're ever in Sarasota, in the heart of the Pinecraft community is Big Olaf's Ice Cream on Bahia Vista Rd. Homemade on site and it's yummy.
Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2018 10:13 PM (eh0Va)
They were mostly gone before I moved to CA.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 18, 2018 10:13 PM (EZebt)
and adolescents may be more likely to develop depression and other
mental health conditions, compared with individuals whose gender
identity matches their assigned gender at birth.
They aren't developing depression and mental health conditions because they are "transgender." They are "transgender" because they have mental health problems and they are not being treated for those problems.
Posted by: huerfano at April 18, 2018 10:14 PM (EtMVh)
With that big bulbous elbow and knobbly knee jutting out there? Ugh.
Posted by: f'd at April 18, 2018 10:14 PM (UdKB7)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM (QzJWU)
... it's what I get for typing too slowly.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 18, 2018 10:14 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:14 PM (eMKNe)
I wonder how wild & crazy they get when away from home.
Posted by: ALH at April 18, 2018 10:14 PM (YYn2L)
So your saying I should buy a Smith & Wesson? Hmm, I believe I will. Thank you young revolutionary of the new Khmer Rouge! I was leaning towards S&W anyway.
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 18, 2018 10:15 PM (SwhMM)
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 18, 2018 10:15 PM (LrbFI)
Totally not wearing a condom with columns girl.
Posted by: Monk at April 18, 2018 10:11 PM (ve0bY)
She might insist upon it. You could have corbeled arches.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2018 10:15 PM (efC8N)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/986650926235684864
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/986651017130455041
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/986651104271306752
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/986651202699038730
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/986651324157710336
Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2018 10:15 PM (eh0Va)
Posted by: tu3031 at April 18, 2018 10:15 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: Bob Ross at April 18, 2018 10:15 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at April 18, 2018 10:01 PM (e9G8E)
I think you left out the semicolon. Thir#383;t.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 18, 2018 10:16 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 18, 2018 10:16 PM (EZebt)
Posted by: Monk at April 18, 2018 10:16 PM (ve0bY)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/986651413186056198
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/986651496476479489
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/986651601308930053
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/986651726764806148
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/986651842129092608
Posted by: kbdabear at April 18, 2018 10:16 PM (eh0Va)
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WTFF?!
Insanity = The New Normal
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 10:17 PM (7ThJ3)
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 10:10
Much wisdom there hogmartin.
Posted by: Farmer at April 18, 2018 10:17 PM (yJ1e6)
Posted by: Charles Gibson at April 18, 2018 10:18 PM (yScAF)
I imagine they've dealt with idjits like Boss Hogg before.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:19 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 18, 2018 10:16 PM (EZebt)
A certain horn-dawg SSgt I knew in the Air Farce described the perfect set of legs as: "feet at one end, and pu**y at the other".
He was not known for his selectivity.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 18, 2018 10:19 PM (QzJWU)
Then I figured out the problem with Chrome - ad block got disappeared somehow. Fixed that, and everything is back to normal.
So both Google and firefox know everything about me. I'm not skeered.
Then I noticed the only application I can find that works to read Nikon camera raw is adobe. So I'm locked in to adobe, and if I'm keeping adobe, might as well keep Microsoft Office. Damn.
So what's been going on? Anything interesting?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 18, 2018 10:19 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 10:19 PM (7ThJ3)
That's okay. The Morons and 'ettes do a good job.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM (Ckg4U)
It's not a laugh thing. It's a heart, soul, life and mind thing. I'm sick and tired of stupid people, my stupid self and my stupid life. And Oxford commas.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:19 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 10:10
Much wisdom there hogmartin.
Posted by: Farmer at April 18, 2018 10:17 PM (yJ1e6)
Our fucked up government doesn't pay for wisdom, but they will pay for warping little kids.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:20 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: tbodie at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (Z7b/F)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (eMKNe)
-Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:19 PM (NWiLs)
I use Oxford commas!
*Fight!*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (eMKNe)
What is the significance of 4/20?
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:22 PM (TdMsT)
of the hundreds of similar vacation colonies the Jooz of NY established
throughout the Catskills.
They were mostly gone before I moved to CA.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 18, 2018 10:13 PM (EZebt)
It's interesting to think about the effect of those vacation spots and their subsequent demise. For decades Americans from the coastal cities would head upstate, or inland, into flyover country and stay for weeks or months. That's gone away, and I have to wonder about how that affects the current divisions between the coasts and flyover country.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 18, 2018 10:22 PM (LrbFI)
Anyone here getting ready for 4/20?
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (eMKNe)
Is that Hitler's birthday or something?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2018 10:22 PM (efC8N)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (eMKNe)
It's just another Friday.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:22 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 18, 2018 10:22 PM (SwhMM)
There's leg in there, too. And other menu items. A veritable smorgasbord of delight. And a bit of camel toe, too. These are a few of my favorite things.
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:23 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 18, 2018 10:23 PM (7LY+6)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (eMKNe)
What is the significance of 4/20?
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:22 PM (TdMsT)
Weed. Grass. Ganja. Mary Jane. Reefer.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:23 PM (NWiLs)
I wonder how wild crazy they get when away from home.
Posted by: ALH
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My mother was raised Mennonite in the middle of a large Amish area. I was around Mennonite/Amish/Plain People much of my childhood-teenage years.
You may be surprised - do the bing thing on Rumspringa.
Some nights the only reason the buggy made it home was because the horse was sober.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 18, 2018 10:23 PM (9rIkM)
I refuse to submit to the delusions of those who do not understand the basic biology of xx is female and xy is male.
If I encounter a medical professional that denies this basic I intend to loud call them out as a quack and inquire in what other areas they commit malpractice in.
Posted by: Minuteman at April 18, 2018 10:24 PM (gnhna)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:24 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: lin-duh at April 18, 2018 10:24 PM (kufk0)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (eMKNe)
4/21 is San Jacinto Day, AKA 'The Great Mexican Footrace'.
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid, at April 18, 2018 10:24 PM (dw7D4)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:24 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 18, 2018 10:24 PM (7LY+6)
Posted by: zombie Prince at April 18, 2018 10:24 PM (cG/Rh)
My birthday approacheth nigh, next Monday. I'll be 29, of course.
Now, do you want to know what I want for my birthday? I can go into great detail...
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:25 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Paul Krugman at April 18, 2018 10:07 PM (UiRxW)
I know this is a sock cause The Real Paul Krugman has never said anything so intelligent.
Posted by: tbodie at April 18, 2018 10:25 PM (Z7b/F)
Posted by: Robert at April 18, 2018 10:25 PM (ayUOl)
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 10:25 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: ALH at April 18, 2018 10:26 PM (YYn2L)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:26 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 18, 2018 10:26 PM (GdWl+)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:24 PM (eMKNe)
Never used the stuff. I just happen to know a bunch of worthless shit.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:26 PM (NWiLs)
And out of that already obviously minuscule number... how many other private security firms out there have resources and competency on par with Blackrock?
Yeah, that boycott is sure goin' somewhere... *makes jerk-off motion*
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 18, 2018 10:26 PM (wSC8T)
Inanimate objects to not cause crime. They are just a tool. In the U.K. banning guns had done nothing but led people to use other tools to commit crimes, from acid and trucks to pointed sticks and fruit, but primarily with knives and other sharp pointy objects. And now, some power people want to ban those knives.
http://politicalhat.com/?p=14560
Posted by: The Bladed Hat at April 18, 2018 10:26 PM (itfg0)
He stopped by the R&D department a day or so later and told me that he didn't think there was any reason to do that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 10:13 PM (7ThJ3)
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As a, at the time, Director of Marketing, in 1993 I set aside about 2 million for an E-Commerce website build. This was for a large Electronics manufacturer, and then web gurus were very expensive.
The President shot this down hard, essentially saying no fucking way companies would order or check out our products on the "Internet".
I am still there, one rung now below his former title.
He got booted in 1996.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at April 18, 2018 10:26 PM (vOaza)
My birthday approacheth nigh, next Monday. I'll be 29, of course.
Now, do you want to know what I want for my birthday? I can go into great detail...
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:25 PM (8O3HH)
Let's see your list.
Posted by: ALH at April 18, 2018 10:26 PM (YYn2L)
My birthday approacheth nigh, next Monday. I'll be 29, of course.
Now, do you want to know what I want for my birthday? I can go into great detail...
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:25 PM (8O3HH)
Happy advance birthday.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:27 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Monk at April 18, 2018 10:27 PM (ve0bY)
Now, do you want to know what I want for my birthday? I can go into great detail...
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:25 PM (8O3HH)
My understanding is that you received your birthday gift early this year.
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:27 PM (TdMsT)
Wasn't there a "study" a while back where they gave little boys dolls, and little girls toy trucks? And the boys had dolly wars, and the girls played house, with trucks for kids?
At the time, I thought our progressive betters thought that was the worst result ever and the study had to be buried. Then dug up, thoroughly discredited, and reburied.
Times change fast.
Posted by: mikeski at April 18, 2018 10:27 PM (JGBbg)
Well, I haven't heard anything bad. Everyone who recommended it really liked it. Going to go try a rental at the range in the next week or so...thanks.
Posted by: lin-duh at April 18, 2018 10:27 PM (kufk0)
Also very nice, the two columns holding up that dress.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 18, 2018 10:28 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at April 18, 2018 10:26 PM (wSC8T)
Investment management is more dangerous than we knew, it seems.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 10:28 PM (y87Qq)
Oh, and I just noticed that all my Pink Floyd tunes are missing from my iTunes library. Two more reasons why I can't nuke windows 10; my iTunes library, and my kindle library.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 18, 2018 10:28 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at April 18, 2018 10:23 PM (7LY+6)
lots of them!
Posted by: William Faulkner at April 18, 2018 10:28 PM (wYseH)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:28 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Monk at April 18, 2018 10:28 PM (ve0bY)
I'm willing to listen to arguments from the other side.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 18, 2018 10:29 PM (0ogQG)
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The more I experience the "modern world" the more I think the Amish have it right.
Posted by: irright at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM
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The only real reservations I have about the lifestyle is air-conditioning and ice-cold beer. I'm kind of a stickler for those two. I don't want to be without them. Am I incompatible with Amishism?
Posted by: irright at April 18, 2018 10:29 PM (RVcmP)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 18, 2018 10:29 PM (d4iVA)
That's why I'm getting everything on CD. Apple can't yank those.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:29 PM (eMKNe)
I use Oxford commas!
*Fight!*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (Ckg4U)
No need. You can have them all.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:29 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay Woke! - Leigon of Gloom founding memeber/too sweet at April 18, 2018 10:30 PM (IYHxL)
Posted by: Infidel at April 18, 2018 10:30 PM (a3OL0)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:30 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: t-bird at April 18, 2018 10:30 PM (ZpfqO)
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:30 PM (TdMsT)
Unfortunately I was just informed the management frowns upon posting direct links to such...lists.
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:30 PM (8O3HH)
Still, they're in a beautiful northern locale, as the only trees are pine. The water is slack. Maybe it's a stream between two lakes.
You'll want to find tributaries with faster running water to find the native brook trout.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 18, 2018 10:31 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:31 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:31 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Infidel at April 18, 2018 10:31 PM (a3OL0)
https//ContraKrugman.com
They refer to him as, "Nobel Prize winner, columnist and Destroyer of Nations"
Posted by: Kindltot at April 18, 2018 10:32 PM (2K6fY)
Posted by: lin-duh at April 18, 2018 10:27 PM (kufk0)
I didn't answer in the thread 'cause I don't own one, but then I remembered a day or so later that my BiL does and he has one complaint: the takedown, instead of being a little lever on the side of the slide, is some fiddly bit where he has to eject the magazine, lock the slide, and reach in through the ejection port and blind manipulate some little switch.
Now, they might have fixed that in a newer model, or you might field strip it rarely enough that you don't care, but it bugged him in that 'if it weren't for that ONE THING' sort of way. You might want to ask them to show you how to field strip it on the range to make sure you're comfortable with the process.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 10:32 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at April 18, 2018 10:32 PM (yQpMk)
Anyone here getting ready for 4/20?
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (eMKNe)
So, if you smoked your brains out on ganja in a certain L.A. suburb, would you fall into an Oxnard Coma?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2018 10:32 PM (efC8N)
A new study suggests that transgender and gender non-conforming children and adolescents may be more likely to develop depression and other mental health conditions, compared with individuals whose gender identity matches their assigned gender at birth.
You need to be more supportive. Or else.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 18, 2018 10:32 PM (AJuEO)
In WA state, the grower license is different from the retail license. And retailers must buy only from state licensed growers, and everything is bar coded.
What is actually happening, for those who learned about concepts like supply and demand in school, is that there seems to be too much weed growing and the retail stores are having to drop the prices to move the inventory.
The sales are how the retailers are moving the stale stuff, like 6 months or more old, so they can carry the fresh stuff harvested like a month ago instead.
4/20 will probably be a boon for Uber drivers.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 18, 2018 10:32 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:33 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:28 PM (eMKNe)
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Nah, back then that would still have been a good gig. No idea what happened to this dink, he may have wound up at Radio Shack or Circuit City.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at April 18, 2018 10:33 PM (vOaza)
>> gift early this year.
Your understanding is correct, m'ladyl. In fact, one might say this is the best birthday ever.
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:33 PM (8O3HH)
After a few weeks of good days, had a bad day yesterday at my job.
My boss is getting saner but still has this habit of assuming anything wrong with anything on the computer, MUST be *my* fault somehow, even though they just gave the heave-ho to an employee who was renowned for doing as little as possible and messing things up.
Yesterday she was telling me about that time "we" exported information from their client website to Excel, right when I first started working there. I had to tell her, I don't know who else was there but I wasn't.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:34 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 18, 2018 10:34 PM (roQNm)
lifestyle is air-conditioning and ice-cold beer. I'm kind of a stickler
for those two. I don't want to be without them. Am I incompatible with
Amishism?
Posted by: irright
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You are not. Electricity is (generally) allowed in work spaces - so, put your AC in the barn or shop.
Beer/alcohol may be allowed by the Bishop of the community. It really is a case by case call. SWIDT? Case by case - beer?
*tap tap tap* Is this thing on?
Posted by: Tonypete at April 18, 2018 10:34 PM (9rIkM)
I'll reinforce the Boston hyphens, however.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:33 PM (Ckg4U)
And no San Francisco colons.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:34 PM (NWiLs)
Also very nice, the two columns holding up that dress.
Posted by: OneEyedJack
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Heh. Mine is a Bluehole, 1974, serial no. 94
It's seen a lot of white water.
https://www.gapaddle.com/blue-hole-canoe/
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 10:34 PM (Zdm89)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:35 PM (eMKNe)
Worse than taking a Kimber 1911 down with the stupid pin thingie? Thanks what my husband is for and why I got a Glock. Dead easy to take down and get back together...can never get the Kimber back together.
Posted by: lin-duh at April 18, 2018 10:35 PM (kufk0)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:33 PM (Ckg4U)
It's a rebuilding year.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 10:35 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:35 PM (TdMsT)
as time went by
we'd get a little bit older
and a little bit slower
Number niiinnnee
Posted by: mindful webworker - I yamz Teh Walrus at April 18, 2018 10:36 PM (3tLP6)
Seeing where this world is going, seeing the predatory nature of far too many humans, I struggle to maintain a positive attitude.
I once thought most people meant well.
I sometimes think people do not mean me any harm.
I pray people do not mean to harm me.
I fear that I will soon be a target.
I need to sort shit out. All is not lost. Got me a good family, and three geriatric kittehs, and a dependable truck.
Sorry. Rambling.
Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at April 18, 2018 10:36 PM (Mkuv2)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:36 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:37 PM (Ckg4U)
They aren't developing depression and mental health conditions because they are "transgender." They are "transgender" because they have mental health problems and they are not being treated for those problems.
They're being the exact opposite of "treated," they're being enabled.
WTF does that? Do we indulge people who hear voices? I don't think so.
So why are these people being treated differently that other mental patients?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 18, 2018 10:38 PM (GdWl+)
When they say "eau de toilette," they MEAN it. :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:38 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: lin-duh at April 18, 2018 10:38 PM (kufk0)
Sorry. Rambling.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
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Gratitude for what we have is a very important element of contentment.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 10:38 PM (cp1if)
"And no San Francisco colons."
-Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:34 PM (NWiLs)
*HAH!*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:36 PM (Ckg4U)
Too many miles on them. Bad investment.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2018 10:38 PM (efC8N)
Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at April 18, 2018 10:36 PM
It's a good album, that one.
Posted by: otho at April 18, 2018 10:39 PM (7xR2D)
I use Oxford commas!
*Fight!*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (Ckg4U)
No need. You can have them all.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 18, 2018 10:29 PM (NWiLs)
I don't need no stinking commas
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 18, 2018 10:39 PM (3Pma+)
My late partner Karen had a way with feral cats. She'd live trap them, get them their shots and fixed. When we were negotiating my returning to her life, a very long story, I had to have the approval of the cats. She not only tamed them, they would do almost anything for her. They were all ages a couple quite elderly. She never allowed them out of the house though. I think it helps if there are multiple cats and that they understand that you are the alpha. She had nine when I moved in. Eight were ferals. At least three would've killed for her.
Posted by: Winston at April 18, 2018 10:39 PM (wgCUV)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at April 18, 2018 10:39 PM (c1VpD)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at April 18, 2018 10:40 PM (KxbBq)
Posted by: Muhammed at April 18, 2018 10:40 PM (dw7D4)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:40 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: lin-duh at April 18, 2018 10:35 PM (kufk0)
I really don't know, I don't own one. I'm also seeing some videos where it has a 90° lever like a real live grown-up gun, so maybe they revised it in a new model. He just showed me the takedown on his a few years ago and it looked kinda frustrating compared to my PPS M2 which is the Glock-style two pull-down sliders on the sides.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 10:40 PM (y87Qq)
Plainly, we need more counseling to assure these people that they are healthy and normal, and more laws to help normalize them and penalize those who perpetuate the social prejudice against whoever it was I was talking about today. Forward!
Posted by: alternate universe mindful webworker in Spock goatee at April 18, 2018 10:40 PM (3tLP6)
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 10:40 PM (xGMkv)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 18, 2018 10:39 PM (3Pma+)
MisHum-- you're the boss here. You don't like commas? I'll just write shorter sentences!
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:41 PM (TdMsT)
I realized that I was solving a serious first world problem.
Turns out that I have a room in my house just for laundry. And apparently, that room was not nice enough for the laundry.
Posted by: blaster at April 18, 2018 10:41 PM (jHrzU)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at April 18, 2018 10:41 PM (H80UQ)
Seeing where this world is going, seeing the predatory nature of far too many humans, I struggle to maintain a positive attitude.
I once thought most people meant well.
I sometimes think people do not mean me any harm.
I pray people do not mean to harm me.
I fear that I will soon be a target.
I need to sort shit out. All is not lost. Got me a good family, and three geriatric kittehs, and a dependable truck.
Sorry. Rambling.
Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at April 18, 2018 10:36 PM (Mkuv2)
So.... you didn't wait for the 4/20 sales? Paid retail price, huh?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 18, 2018 10:41 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: ibguy at April 18, 2018 10:41 PM (vUcdz)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:40 PM (eMKNe)
Well played!
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:42 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at April 18, 2018 10:42 PM (H80UQ)
Posted by: lin-duh at April 18, 2018 10:42 PM (kufk0)
Mrs VIA befriended two little kittens who were part of feral colony in the field behind our house in Italy.
14 years later the last of the two is still with us.
Has lived in our homes the entire time.
Will sit for hours next to Mrs VIA on the couch.
Has sometimes even slept in our bed.
BUT...to this day we are unable to put hands on both sides of her and pick her up.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 18, 2018 10:42 PM (6t8+a)
Did Kimber fvck up the ease of stripping a 1911?
Because it's pretty damned easy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 18, 2018 10:43 PM (wYseH)
(Stepped away for a bit)
Posted by: ibguy at April 18,
My dear Ibguy! You've been on my mind. Stay strong.
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:43 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 10:43 PM (xGMkv)
Posted by: Sweet Andy Licious at April 18, 2018 10:43 PM (Mo5Uy)
For this worthless shit? Fuck the NSF. Nuke 'em from orbit. This is a gross insult to everyone who did no-shit research, ever.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 18, 2018 10:43 PM (MDlMP)
Trapping is certainly an option to a bullet.
Even our local shelter is no-kill. They host Vet-Tech students to come in and Neuter/Spay.
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid, at April 18, 2018 10:44 PM (dw7D4)
I'm willing to listen to arguments from the other side.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 18, 2018 10:29 PM (0ogQG)
Depends on how you define feral. If by that you mean a fully adult cat that's managed to survive on its own, perhaps you're right.
We got ours farm-fresh, as a starving male kitten 6 months old, and he's taken to being indoor cat with outside privileges rather well.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 18, 2018 10:44 PM (z79tQ)
Kristina Olson, a researcher at the University of Washington, received the 2018 Alan T. Waterman Award, the nation's "highest honor for a young scientist or engineer," for her work studying the gender identities of toddlers.
I'm seeing a pattern here. No chicks recognized for their work in physics or chemistry? Quelle surprise.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 18, 2018 10:45 PM (MDlMP)
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid, at April 18, 2018 10:44 PM (dw7D4)
Good for them! It breaks my heart to see all the vet-tech students without homes.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 10:45 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 18, 2018 10:45 PM (3Pma+)
You cannot 'rescue' a feral cat. They must be socialized young to accept humans.
We were out rabbit hunting when I was a real live Boy and we ran across a wild housecat in a barn. That damned thing nearly killed Rebel, our hunting dog.
We finally killed it and it looked like the product of a lynx and Morris the Cat. Thing weighed about 25 pounds. Nobody could hold it out at arm's length.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 18, 2018 10:46 PM (GdWl+)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at April 18, 2018 10:42 PM (H80UQ)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU USED A COMMA IN YOUR SENTENCE CRITICIZING COMMAS.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at April 18, 2018 10:46 PM (J7NdS)
she was born on a farm where children seek out the mews they hear, and hold tiny kittens.
so my cat was held, and caught and held, until one day, I picked her up and brought her home.
so she's really part-feral.
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 10:46 PM (xGMkv)
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The more I experience the "modern world" the more I think the Amish have it right.
Posted by: irright at April 18, 2018 10:10 PM
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The only real reservations I have about the lifestyle is air-conditioning and ice-cold beer. I'm kind of a stickler for those two. I don't want to be without them. Am I incompatible with Amishism?
Posted by: irright at April 18, 2018 10:29 PM (RVcmP)
Block ice, maybe.
Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at April 18, 2018 10:46 PM (1FhAQ)
Oh, there's supposed to be some school walk out thing on Friday too.
Posted by: lin-duh at April 18, 2018 10:38 PM
I thought Hoggg was calling for everybody everywhere to walk out on Friday.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 18, 2018 10:46 PM (IqV8l)
"Hi, I'd like my coffee extra bla-- uh I mean extra dar-- ah screw it, I'll just go to Coffee Bean."
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:47 PM (eMKNe)
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The Rethugs will fvck you up the ass. The Donks will fvck you up the ass without lube.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 18, 2018 10:47 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Sweet Andy Licious at April 18, 2018 10:43 PM (Mo5Uy)
He gets his own special following if he continues to fake like a presidential candidate.
He was in New Hampshire yesterday or some such thing.
"So, candidate Holder, was it under 2,000 guns or over 2,000 guns you and your scheming traitors ran into Mexico when you were Attorney General for Barky?"
I learned that by asking a specific question cuts out a lot of wasted time.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 18, 2018 10:47 PM (UsCnO)
I'm willing to listen to arguments from the other side.
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I've heard stories about apparent adult ferals "socializing" themselves. But the stories aren't exactly common. And you CANNOT force the cat to do so. It has to make the decision on its own.
By and large, it isn't going to happen.
Posted by: junior at April 18, 2018 10:48 PM (Pnsyl)
been there, done that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 18, 2018 10:48 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Jim at April 18, 2018 10:48 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 18, 2018 10:45 PM (3Pma+)
Thanks, boss!
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:48 PM (TdMsT)
Well, if there's anything this site is about it's wondering which of the buggers to blame.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 18, 2018 10:48 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at April 18, 2018 10:39 PM (c1VpD)
I volunteer to give her a soothing knee massage. Among other things.
And with that utterly predictable comment I head off to bed. Not feeling any better but I have to go to work anyway. Such is life. Sleep well, my friends.
Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at April 18, 2018 10:49 PM (1FhAQ)
Posted by: irright at April 18, 2018 10:29 PM (RVcmP)
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Become Mennonite. Amish light, and you can play with all the cool, modern stuff.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at April 18, 2018 10:49 PM (vOaza)
Talm this way
Posted by: Camera Hogg at April 18, 2018 10:49 PM (+y/Ru)
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1996 I was doing an IT reengineering gig at Gannett/USAToday. I asked the management forum how they were preparing their business processes for the internet. To a person they stated the internet would have no significant impact on their business. As one put it "no one will take a laptop into the can to read the sports section".
Posted by: BluesFish at April 18, 2018 10:49 PM (5iPef)
Posted by: Winston at April 18, 2018 10:50 PM (wgCUV)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at April 18, 2018 10:50 PM (H80UQ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at A
Would lube really make any difference?
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:50 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Calm Mentor at April 18, 2018 10:49 PM (vOaza)
Not a Cenobite though. Sounds the same, right? WELP, turns out it's a whole different thing. You don't make that mistake twice.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 10:50 PM (y87Qq)
Amish come from hundreds of miles and they do all the country fair type stuff only with Amish things and some games and it is a HUGE turnout for about a week. They come in trailers and RV's (some of them) Some stay with locals (the horse ones) and the entire highway is clogged with them.
When the big one hits I know I'm looking for an Amish farm asap.
Posted by: jakee308 at April 18, 2018 10:50 PM (z96ye)
"The Democrats Are the Party of Fiscal Responsibility."
True, they want to spend like crazy but they also want to tax like crazy to pay for it!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 18, 2018 10:51 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at A
Would lube really make any difference?
YES!
Posted by: Shep Smith at April 18, 2018 10:51 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 18, 2018 10:51 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Infidel at April 18, 2018 10:51 PM (a3OL0)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 18, 2018 10:52 PM (d4iVA)
Posted by: t-bird at April 18, 2018 10:52 PM (QxXRY)
Posted by: CyberCipher at April 18, 2018 10:52 PM (p6WoB)
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:52 PM (8O3HH)
Some moron posted some Don Colacho / Davila quotes here earlier.
Posted by: boulder t' hobo at April 18, 2018 10:52 PM (6FqZa)
Now, do you want to know what I want for my birthday? I can go into great detail...
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:25 PM (8O3HH)
Are you sure it's Monday? I know what you want, but the shipping takes awhile.It's one of those special sexpots that you're always talking about.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, offering free subjunctives TODAY ONLY at April 18, 2018 10:52 PM (cu8/f)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 10:53 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 18, 2018 10:53 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:53 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 10:53 PM (5OO3x)
Posted by: ibguy at April 18, 2018 10:53 PM (vUcdz)
Posted by: booknlass
Thank you indeed.
I'll actually be 51, and I really can't believe it. I still think it ought to just be maybe 1998, and not 2018 now.
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:54 PM (8O3HH)
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Well, look at the bright side. In 20 or 25 years we'll have plenty of items for the ONT about how crazy ass "social" "scientksts" tortured children because of their crazy ass ideology.
Posted by: Camera Hogg at April 18, 2018 10:54 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: boulder t' hobo at April 18, 2018 10:54 PM (6FqZa)
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It's like she knew that the slit in her dress wasn't wide enough, so she helped us out.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 18, 2018 10:54 PM (pvjTE)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 18, 2018 10:53 PM (/qEW2)
Feral cats mean zero mouse or rat problems. Ever.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 18, 2018 10:55 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 10:55 PM (xGMkv)
Posted by: Elizabeth at April 18, 2018 10:55 PM (kLBhp)
Posted by: boulder t' hobo at April 18, 2018 10:54 PM (6FqZa)
Aren't you a Republican Party Delegate though? Asking for my squeaker.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 10:55 PM (y87Qq)
Hey, Happy Birfday to you, publius.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at April 18, 2018 10:55 PM (GdWl+)
Posted by: boulder t' hobo at April 18, 2018 10:55 PM (6FqZa)
So Elizabeth Warren has her own porn page? Must be where young leftists like Hogg go to fap off to.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 18, 2018 10:55 PM (/qEW2)
so my cat was held, and caught and held, until one day, I picked her up and brought her home.
so she's really part-feral."
we've kept track of different cats over the years - as best I can tell, if they're held a fair amount during the first 6 weeks, they can become pretty tame. But if they're not held in the first 6 weeks, they're going to be wild from then on.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 18, 2018 10:56 PM (V2Yro)
Thank you, dear lady.
I'm actually doing okay for now. Surprised myself with that.
Posted by: ibguy at April 18, 2018 10:53 PM (vUcdz)
Your love for Joyce is an inspiration.
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:56 PM (TdMsT)
https://www.gapaddle.com/blue-hole-canoe/
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 10:34 PM (Zdm89)
Just looked it up, very nice. I don't need (still want) a real good canoe because it is a thing the wife and I do and she prefers still water. So, it's lazy rivers and the local lake/swamp, which is rather beautiful in its own way.
But all we need is a rec canoe.
Whatever. It saves me money for bike farkles.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 18, 2018 10:56 PM (z79tQ)
I am an idiot. It's Sunday, the 22nd. My only defense is maybe I looked at the calendar wrong. I probably had other things on my mind. I've been distracted a lot lately. Discombobulated.
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:56 PM (8O3HH)
I know, right?
Posted by: Glenn Campbell at April 18, 2018 10:56 PM (UsCnO)
How was I supposed to predict smartphones in 1996?
Posted by: The guy what said that laptop thing at April 18, 2018 10:57 PM (JGBbg)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at April 18, 2018 10:57 PM (H80UQ)
Thank you for that perspective on feral cats.
As the old saying goes, never say never.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 18, 2018 10:57 PM (0ogQG)
Except when it comes time to work on something mechanical or electrical. They are plumb ignorant. Ten years of elementary education is all they get.
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid, at April 18, 2018 10:58 PM (dw7D4)
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Corinthians talk like fags and their shit's all retarded.
Posted by: The Ionics at April 18, 2018 10:58 PM (kLBhp)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 18, 2018 10:58 PM (+y/Ru)
I really don't like when candidates talk a lot of happytalk to Conservatives. I need substance, not muh guns-'borshun-values. Justin Everett (for instance - the Treasurer guy here) was great when talking about what a hellhole PERA is. He sucked when talking about divisive values stuff that, as Treasurer, he can do nothing about.
Posted by: boulder t' hobo at April 18, 2018 10:58 PM (6FqZa)
defense is maybe I looked at the calendar wrong. I probably had other
things on my mind. I've been distracted a lot lately. Discombobulated.
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:56 PM (8O3HH)
Time travel?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, offering free subjunctives TODAY ONLY at April 18, 2018 10:58 PM (cu8/f)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at April 18, 2018 10:59 PM (H80UQ)
well at least he'll never do that again.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 18, 2018 10:59 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 10:59 PM (TdMsT)
Thank you (again)
I try not to clog up the ONT with too many BSU's, don't want to be Debbie Downer all the time. She has an amazing support system (which unfortunately doesn't include her immediate family), which helps.
Oops! Just used a comma - Yikes!!!
Posted by: ibguy at April 18, 2018 10:59 PM (vUcdz)
I'm willing to listen to arguments from the other side.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 18, 2018 10:29 PM (0ogQG)
A friend in San Francisco 'rescued' a feral cat a few years back and to this day it will attack/pee on anyone who it isn't well aquainted with.
It's possible to 'rescue' a feral cat, but it
Posted by: Surfperch at April 18, 2018 10:59 PM (J7NdS)
It's rather funny that the "racist" Starbucks manager in Philly is a SJW. I'm sure she probably had a nervous breakdown hearing the R word applied to her.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher
They called her a "Republican?"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 18, 2018 10:59 PM (IqV8l)
>> special sexpots that you're always talking about.
Something tells me it'll be worth the wait.
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:59 PM (8O3HH)
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I've got a video game that's set in '80s Japan. One set of tasks has you running around trying to help some guy get his "portable" phone up and functioning.
The owner has to carry it in a backpack.
Posted by: junior at April 18, 2018 11:00 PM (Pnsyl)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 11:00 PM (Ckg4U)
I've been packing up my life, winnowing it down. Making progress.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 18, 2018 11:00 PM (cu8/f)
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Hoisted on his own Peterbilt.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 18, 2018 11:01 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Camera Hogg at April 18, 2018 10:54 PM (+y/Ru)
"Social science" isn't. Any of it. It's ALL shit, until established otherwise. Which isn't likely to happen.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 18, 2018 11:01 PM (MDlMP)
Nice kids. They always remember my order and just start fixing it when I walk up.
Posted by: Winston at April 18, 2018 11:01 PM (wgCUV)
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 10:59 PM (8O3HH)
The best gifts always are.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 18, 2018 11:02 PM (cu8/f)
Things like that can happen when you're hauling a load of Hillary!'s old servers.
Posted by: mikeski at April 18, 2018 11:02 PM (JGBbg)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at April 18, 2018 11:02 PM (H80UQ)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 18, 2018 11:02 PM (xJa6I)
Sad thing is, they're in the food chain out there. Is that offensive? It's the way of things on farms, in my world.
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:02 PM (xGMkv)
Posted by: The Ionics at April 18, 2018 10:58 PM (kLBhp)
Shut up, slave! Did I give you permission to speak?
Posted by: Romans (sure we copied but we did it better) at April 18, 2018 11:03 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 18, 2018 11:03 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: David "Camera" Hogg at April 18, 2018 11:03 PM (ZpfqO)
I try not to clog up the ONT with too many BSU's, don't want to be Debbie Downer all the time. She has an amazing support system (which unfortunately doesn't include her immediate family), which helps.
Oops! Just used a comma - Yikes!!!
Posted by: ibguy at April 18, 2018 10:59 PM (vUcdz)
The BSUs are really very uplifting and inspirational. Joyce is an example to us all.
Don't worry about the commas-- we got the go-ahead from MisHum!
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 11:03 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 18, 2018 11:03 PM (kLBhp)
-Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at April 18, 2018 11:02 PM (H80UQ)
I did the same thing. Thank God I got my shit together after I turned thirty-five.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 11:04 PM (Ckg4U)
The last batch of cats I've had for the past 10 years or so have been basically feral. Semi. They're all about gone now. The mother was reasonably tame, I think she'd been put out and came up. When I found her, she had a batch of kittens nearly grown and they had another batch before I could get her fixed.
She would not lead me to that second batch of kittens, which she had hidden away in the woods. She would just stop if she knew I was following her. Would not give up the location of her babies.
And then one day, she just brought them up, but they were too old really. One of them is actually reasonably tame, but quite temperamental. A tom from the first batch actually became quite tame, would allow you to pick him up. He didn't really like it, but he'd let you.
However, you do not try to play with them. Nosirree, bobtail. They'll claw you to shreds. They don't learn how to hold back the claws with humans.
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 11:04 PM (8O3HH)
would be in 2000. That seemed impossibly far away. I don't think I ever
thought much past 2000.
Posted by: DonnaV sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at April 18, 2018 11:02 PM (H80UQ)
Me too - I thought I'd be old. LOL! Who knew I'd be 29?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 18, 2018 11:05 PM (cu8/f)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 18, 2018 11:05 PM (xJa6I)
I've been packing up my life, winnowing it down. Making progress.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 18, 2018 11:00 PM (cu8/f)
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Congrats! After wife passing, I retired and got rid of anything I had not touched in 6 months. Downsized big time, and retired.
Kids came in and got what they wanted.
It felt......great!
Posted by: Calm Mentor at April 18, 2018 11:05 PM (vOaza)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 11:04 PM (Ckg
You done good, kid.
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 11:05 PM (TdMsT)
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Hold it. I thought we decide that 'subjunctive' is a mood. If I can't be moody, then I'm going to have to find another blog.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 11:05 PM (5OO3x)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 11:06 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2018 11:06 PM (6FqZa)
A few years back a couple guys were running a wood chipper in the next town over. One took a break for lunch. When he returned the chipper was still running and his buddy was 'gone'.
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid, at April 18, 2018 11:06 PM (dw7D4)
It's Sunday, but I'm already having a good 'un. I expect this will be a birthday I remember for the rest of my days.
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 11:06 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 11:06 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 18, 2018 11:07 PM (3Pma+)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 18, 2018 11:07 PM (kLBhp)
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 11:07 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 11:08 PM (Ckg4U)
So I went on Amazon and started "previewing" it. guess I'll wait until the furor calms down.
sounds pretty cool, your plan to attend the gun rights rally and build a team IRL.
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:09 PM (xGMkv)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 11:09 PM (Ckg4U)
Mike, go ahead and be moody just not prepositional
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 18, 2018 11:09 PM (3Pma+)
Posted by: publius, of Augusta, foretold by Signs and Omens at April 18, 2018 11:09 PM (8O3HH)
*kicks dog*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 11:08 PM (Ckg4U)
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I will see your three exclamation points and raise you two ampersands.
!!!&&
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 18, 2018 11:09 PM (kLBhp)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2018 11:06 PM (6FqZa)
What's on their agenda?
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 11:10 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 18, 2018 11:10 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: geoffb at April 18, 2018 11:10 PM (zOpu5)
Posted by: irright at April 18, 2018 11:10 PM (RVcmP)
!!!&&"
-Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 18, 2018 11:09 PM (kLBhp)
*!!!&& All In*
*Three Jokers, a seven of hearts and a two of clubs*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 11:12 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 18, 2018 11:12 PM (+y/Ru)
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Oh my. What an utterly awful song. I hope I can keep its name in my mind so I can avoid ever listening to it again.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 18, 2018 11:12 PM (pvjTE)
Yikes! Now you reminded me of an old family story, happened before I was born, when a good part of the family was still working farms in the midwest. Old Uncle John was running a big corn harvester through the fields by himself, apparently a bunch of debris got caught in the scoop up front, so he stopped it and went up front to clear the intake - but he didn't turn it off.
Old Uncle John got shucked.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 18, 2018 11:12 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: ibguy at April 18, 2018 10:59 PM
Lutheran Cob gives Catholic dispensation to one of my favorite Joos
Gald you're not like that anti-Semite, Semite
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 18, 2018 11:12 PM (3Pma+)
Posted by: geoffb at April 18, 2018 11:10 PM (zOpu5)
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It must have been hard reintroducing yourself to society.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 18, 2018 11:13 PM (kLBhp)
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 11:13 PM (y87Qq)
Kids came in and got what they wanted.
It felt......great!
Posted by: Calm Mentor at April 18, 2018 11:05 PM (vOaza)
My downsizing has taken place in two waves. This one is "fairly" thorough. The next one will be even more stringent. I've left literally 4 or 5 households behind in my lifetime.
One thing I've learned in my life - more stuff always comes.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 18, 2018 11:14 PM (cu8/f)
Sorry for your loss. My husband's dogs never really got over his death. Both were gone within six months. I scattered their ashes off the High Bridge, where I'd scattered Jeffrey's ashes. I still have the dog that was the last pup we got together.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 18, 2018 11:14 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 18, 2018 11:14 PM (cu8/f)
Does it ever!
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 11:15 PM (TdMsT)
It's possible to 'rescue' a feral cat, but it won't accept will try to kill humans who aren't its owner.
Posted by: Surfperch at April 18, 2018 10:59 PM (J7NdS)
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It pees on you if you pick it up, or it squirts you from afar?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 18, 2018 11:15 PM (pvjTE)
Note to self don't play that song again or A.Y.M might just give up his cardboard subscription
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 18, 2018 11:16 PM (3Pma+)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 18, 2018 11:16 PM (+y/Ru)
In fairness, something like $14T of our $20T debt is from Republican Congresses.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 18, 2018 11:16 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: hogmartin
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Oh. Well, crikey, anyone could do that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 11:16 PM (5OO3x)
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 18, 2018 10:29 PM (0ogQG)
Trust me on this. Socializing them early doesn't really tame them either. I have a couple of feral kittens that I've had for about 9 years.
They love me, they like me, they purr . . . and then they look at me with that wide eyed, flat-eared, horrified look that says, "MONKEY!!!!"
Posted by: Kindltot at April 18, 2018 11:16 PM (2K6fY)
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:17 PM (xGMkv)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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There's no need for more than one kind of comma.
Posted by: Comrade Bernie at April 18, 2018 11:18 PM (5OO3x)
It's possible to 'rescue' a feral cat, but it won't accept will try to kill humans who aren't its owner.
Posted by: Surfperch at April 18, 2018 10:59 PM (J7NdS)
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It pees on you if you pick it up, or it squirts you from afar?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 18, 2018 11:15 PM (pvjTE)
It will pee on you while you're sleeping.
Also will pee on anything you've slept on.
Posted by: Surfperch at April 18, 2018 11:18 PM (J7NdS)
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:17 PM (xGMkv)
I love Jordan Peterson!
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 11:19 PM (TdMsT)
I found plenty of audio jordan Peterson to listen to on yewtoob!
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:17 PM (xGMkv)
Peterson is also good!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 18, 2018 11:20 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (eMKNe)
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I will have to get home early, or I may not be able to get home. We live a block from Golden Gate Park, and for some reason every stoner in the greater Bay area wants to spark up there instead of Oakland, where they belong.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 18, 2018 11:20 PM (EZebt)
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Fortunately, I was able to undo much of the damage by listening to the Pink Floyd clip.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 18, 2018 11:20 PM (pvjTE)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess
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Hammer's Law: The clutter will expand to fill all available space.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 11:20 PM (Zdm89)
One thing I've learned in my life - more stuff always comes.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 18, 2018 11:14 PM (cu8/f)
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Mine was 2 dump trucks worth of stuff initially, hauled out by pros. Then, a good sized dumpster I filled by myself. On purpose.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at April 18, 2018 11:20 PM (vOaza)
Posted by: Winston at April 18, 2018 11:20 PM (wgCUV)
The counter-rally will be 1 PM Saturday. The rules are: no candidate or political-party signs, just signs supporting the Second Amendment - and flags. There's no permit so it will be held at the corner of 13th St and Canyon.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2018 11:20 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 18, 2018 11:20 PM (3Pma+)
Appropo of nothing, after 3 days of oatmeal, which I dislike, I finally got my ass to the grocery store and ate some really good food tonight. I feel sooo much better. Wish I didn't hate grocery shopping. It is so stupid of me.
Back to the toy thread!
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 18, 2018 11:20 PM (F0aU4)
the two youngest booknkids have each decided to move in with their beloveds, and are furnishing apartments/houses, so I was happy to hear from the daughter (who I wondered whether we'd ever be able to talk together normally again) asked if I had anything she can use.
what fun! I'll buy thrift store things for her for that feeling of normalcy
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:21 PM (xGMkv)
Also will pee on anything you've slept on.
Posted by: Surfperch at April 18, 2018 11:18 PM (J7NdS)
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That would do it. I tend to avoid visiting homes where the pets piss on me as I sleep.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 18, 2018 11:22 PM (pvjTE)
It will pee on you while you're sleeping.
It will pee on you while you're awake.
It will pee on you if you've been bad or good.
So be good, for goodness sake.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 18, 2018 11:22 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Betski Wetski, Russian Whore at April 18, 2018 11:22 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2018 11:23 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 18, 2018 11:20 PM (xJa6I)
I love 'em. Finest briars, hand-carved in Dublin since 1865.
A little spendy though.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 11:23 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 11:23 PM (Zdm89)
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 11:23 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (eMKNe)
I am.
Posted by: David Hogg, planning a "walkout" at April 18, 2018 11:23 PM (J7NdS)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 20
No. What has become of her?
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 11:24 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 11:23 PM (Zdm89)
Sunday, yes. Check the food thread.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 11:25 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: hogmartin
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Okay, good. Just had not seen her about lately.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 18, 2018 11:26 PM (5OO3x)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 18, 2018 11:16 PM (+y/Ru)
But each citizen will only get half of one. (So, a colon?)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 18, 2018 11:26 PM (d4iVA)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 18, 2018 11:27 PM (cu8/f)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword
So, I wasn't the only one to notice that she had probably just been praying?
Posted by: mindful webworker in Dr Strange's cloak of levity at April 18, 2018 11:27 PM (3tLP6)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 18, 2018 11:28 PM (Lqy/e)
the two youngest booknkids have each decided to move in with their
beloveds, and are furnishing apartments/houses, so I was happy to hear
from the daughter (who I wondered whether we'd ever be able to talk
together normally again) asked if I had anything she can use.
what fun! I'll buy thrift store things for her for that feeling of normalcy
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:21 PM (xGMkv)
booknlass, if only they were here! I've given almost everything away!
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 18, 2018 11:28 PM (cu8/f)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 18, 2018 11:28 PM (Lqy/e)
Sorry to hear that.
It's hard to lose pets you love.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 18, 2018 11:29 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 18, 2018 11:30 PM (F0aU4)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 18, 2018 11:30 PM (Lqy/e)
my family is gathering our strength for the next challenge. found out my mom has pancreatic cancer today.
but she's set the tone, one day at a time, focussed on her Lord
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:30 PM (xGMkv)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 18, 2018 11:20 PM (xJa6I)
I love 'em. Finest briars, hand-carved in Dublin since 1865.
A little spendy though.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 11:23 PM (y87Qq)
LOL
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 18, 2018 11:31 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April
peaches isn't the problem.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2018 11:31 PM (MTjB1)
Well, I see Melania's birthday is the 26th.
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 11:32 PM (8O3HH)
And high capacity magazine clips that hold thirty Oxford Commas, each.
....really, it's not any sillier than the anti-gun arguments, and serves (if only a tiny bit) to illustrate their idiocy.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 18, 2018 11:32 PM (QzJWU)
but she's set the tone, one day at a time, focussed on her Lord
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:30 PM (xGMkv)
Booknlass--I'm so terribly sorry. What very hard news. I will lift you and your mom up in prayer tonight.
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 11:32 PM (TdMsT)
So sorry. Losing a pet is like losing a close friend. 15 years is a long time relationship.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 18, 2018 11:33 PM (F0aU4)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 18, 2018 11:33 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 18, 2018 11:28 PM (Lqy/e)
Vanya's about there too. He was a rescue so nobody really knows exactly how old he is, but the vet estimated 4 years old when I got him in 2006. In the last year he's started eating sitting down with his legs splayed straight out in front of him like a little kid because I guess bending his knees hurts too much to do the cat squat.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 11:33 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2018 11:33 PM (efC8N)
You may only need one type of comma, but you do need all sorts of brackets:
(), [], {}, , and probably some more.
Posted by: publius, the Persistently Priapic Poperin Pear at April 18, 2018 11:33 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Ladyl at April 18, 2018 11:34 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2018 11:34 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2018 11:34 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 18, 2018 11:35 PM (kLBhp)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 18, 2018 11:35 PM (d4iVA)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 18, 2018 11:35 PM (d4iVA)
Insomniac, you here? This talk I'm listening to by Peterson will help you:
it's entitled Jordan Peterson - One Of The Most Eye
Opening Speeches | Depression & Success
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:35 PM (xGMkv)
I had a military-grade colon a couple nights ago after a chick-pea
curry. Definitely good to be standing outside in a case like that.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2018 11:34 PM (6FqZa)
He was a wild colon-ial boy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 18, 2018 11:35 PM (efC8N)
Also will pee on anything you've slept on.
Posted by: Surfperch at April 18, 2018 11:18 PM (J7NdS)
You guys are really talking me out of my antipathy to cats.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 18, 2018 11:36 PM (MDlMP)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 11:36 PM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 18, 2018 11:37 PM (3Pma+)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at April 18, 2018 11:38 PM (nBr1j)
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:38 PM (xGMkv)
Good to talk to you Slsp.
Posted by: Farmer at April 18, 2018 11:38 PM (yJ1e6)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2018 11:38 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:38 PM (xGMkv)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 10:21 PM (eMKNe)
I am.
Posted by: David Hogg, planning a "walkout" at April 18, 2018 11:23 PM (J7NdS)
Why did I think 4/20 had something to do with pot? But now it is walk out day for the country/world about something ludicrous? I have lost track of all these "special" days and marches.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 18, 2018 11:39 PM (F0aU4)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 18, 2018 11:39 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April
not sure. my experience has been that when you leave the big city and wander out in into the hinterlands it is important to set out with the right attitude.
more or less this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFriRcIwqNU
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2018 11:41 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: LadyTheo at April 18, 2018 11:41 PM (K8vEP)
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:41 PM (xGMkv)
Another new study performed by screaming banshees on the left and founded entirely on feelings because actual facts are racist will soon prove that all that sadness in the freak department is actually your fault, you uptight shortsighted narrow minded hypocrite, because you are so mean to these innocent freakazoids.
Posted by: Weso Phuct at April 18, 2018 11:42 PM (kMaaS)
I have my ways to obtain photos of beautiful women. But I can't divulge......
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 18, 2018 11:44 PM (3Pma+)
Familyin' is tough, often as not. But I'm glad to hear that your daughter is softening her heart, of late.
Y'all draw close as fast and strong as possible in the days, months and years to come.
And make memories. Make GOOD memories. They're money in the spiritual bank.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 18, 2018 11:44 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2018 11:45 PM (MTjB1)
really knows exactly how old he is, but the vet estimated 4 years old
when I got him in 2006. In the last year he's started eating sitting
down with his legs splayed straight out in front of him like a little
kid because I guess bending his knees hurts too much to do the cat
squat.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 11:33 PM (y87Qq)
Hogmartin, if you haven't already, try getting some of those Glucosamine Chondroitin treats for cats.
You may have to try several types that the cat will eat as a treat, but it tends to work better for cats than people.
Cats don't remove it through the kidneys like people do, or so I am told. It is not toxic to them either.
I have a friend with an elderly cat, and it made her tail and joints stop aching, and she started being more active.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 18, 2018 11:45 PM (2K6fY)
Lovely ONT, MisHum. As always.
Slappy! How are you?
Posted by: creeper at April 18, 2018 11:46 PM (LO5Qy)
It comes and goes, it comes and goes...
Punctuation's easy if you just remember this scheme...
It goes between...it goes between...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at April 18, 2018 11:47 PM (lLeln)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2018 11:48 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: publius, of Augusta, foretold by Signs and Omens at April 18, 2018 11:09 PM (8O3HH)
Hail Augustus!
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 18, 2018 11:48 PM (cu8/f)
good advice. Again, it's remarkable the attitude of my mom. she's been even more lovable than ever. precious.
my brothers and their families and I will take good care of her as we are able.
Posted by: booknlass at April 18, 2018 11:49 PM (xGMkv)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 11:51 PM (eMKNe)
My worst bird killer wasn't the least bit feral. He was a big doofus who was so laid back he was damn near comatose. But he was good for one sparrow a day. Unfortunately, he did manage to nail my male downy woodpecker and a female cardinal. He also tangled with a blue jay. I fully expected that jay to return and harass the bejeebers out of that cat, but it didn't. I don't know if the cat mauled the Jay enough that it died or if it simply decided to go somewhere else for its snacks.
Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at April 18, 2018 11:51 PM (BOdUR)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 18, 2018 11:52 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2018 11:45 PM (MTjB1)
I know they landed with 5° flaps at something north of 160kt; normal landings are done with 30-40° flaps at about 135 which seems to indicate that they wanted to avoid a stall. Whether that means they were just being careful or they thought it was in danger of stalling, I don't know. I'll see if I can find some more on that.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 11:52 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at April 18, 2018 11:53 PM (GdgAM)
I've been comforting myself with the following mental exercise: The Claude Rains media having to report that Kim Jong Un is giving up his nukes in exchange for a peace treaty. And US and ROK inspectors being on the ground within 72 hours to supervise.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 18, 2018 11:53 PM (cke+b)
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 18, 2018 11:39 PM (F0aU4)
++++
It does. Supposedly started at some high school or another in reference to the time after school that they would get together and blaze up. As the legend spread, someone decided that 4:20 on 4/20 would really be the shit.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 18, 2018 11:54 PM (pvjTE)
Air Supply - Playlist/very best of
Ambrosia - Anthology
Lindsey Buckingham - Law And Order
Bob Dylan - GH1 and Nashville Skyline (thanks rickl)
Bread - Best of
Arlo Guthrie - Alice's Restaurant
Bob Seger - Greatest Hits
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 11:54 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Kindltot at April 18, 2018 11:45 PM (2K6fY)
I hadn't thought of anything like that, thanks for the tip. My uncle is a retired vet, I'll see if he knows of a good brand.
'night all, be well.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 11:54 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 18, 2018 11:55 PM (cke+b)
So you listen to those when you feel like Bill Kristol?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 18, 2018 11:56 PM (3Pma+)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 11:56 PM (eMKNe)
LOL.
They're not, but they certainly should be.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 18, 2018 11:56 PM (f41Sg)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 18, 2018 11:57 PM (KP5rU)
another in reference to the time after school that they would get
together and blaze up. As the legend spread, someone decided that 4:20
on 4/20 would really be the shit.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 18, 2018 11:54 PM (pvjTE)
Like, May the 4th? Or the big one, July 6th (Jurassic) Park day?
Posted by: Kindltot at April 18, 2018 11:57 PM (2K6fY)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 18, 2018 11:57 PM (Ckg4U)
I'll bet I have at least one of them already.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 11:57 PM (eMKNe)
https://youtu.be/5WyE3NE6wYU
It's good for you.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 18, 2018 11:57 PM (pvjTE)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 18, 2018 11:58 PM (3Pma+)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 11:58 PM (eMKNe)
Trouble was, it was used to constant attention, and expected to get it from me. As a single old guy living in a 38 foot fifth wheel trailer, there wasn't enough to keep it interested. It would not leave me alone. Day or night, it wanted to be petted, played with and Allah knows what else.
The final straw came after about six or seven days when I went into the living room in the morning and put on my shirt, noticed it was wet, and took it off. Washed up, got a clean shirt and went to put on my pants ... only to notice they were equally wet. The kittuh had found a way to express its displeasure in my lack of attention.
I found a way to reciprocate and the kittuh went back to the pound that day. Oh, it also damaged my guitar by making a wild leap from the top of a TV tray, sending it crashing into my vintage Yamaha. Ouch!
Posted by: Ruthless at April 18, 2018 11:59 PM (md3fh)
Posted by: creeper at April 18, 2018 11:59 PM (LO5Qy)
Posted by: Kindltot at April 18, 2018 11:57 PM (2K6fY)
++++
No, I'd say those are different. Corporate marketing campaigns. 4/20 is grassroots.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 12:00 AM (pvjTE)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 18, 2018 11:45 PM (MTjB1)
I'm not a rated pilot, but have hours, lessons and a lifetime of a strong enthusiasm, reading 'bout every damn thing I could find on the topic.
Technically "no" it's not a big thing to land a twin jet airliner on only one engine. A part of the FAA Type Certificate Program for EVERY model of twin-engine jet up there, is that they have to be able to execute the entire flight regime, from takeoff and climb, cruise to altitude, descend and land... all one ONE engine.
Oh, and that above test? At max rated takeoff weight, in the bargain.
So, the aircraft can do the one engine thing.
Here's where it's problematic.
That sudden loss of power on the #1 (left side) engine?
Instant, asymmetric thrust, and resulting yaw HARD to the left.
I'd wager it kicked the three-axis autopilot out of the circuit, and the pilot would have had to apply HARD right rudder, and pull-back thrust on the right engine, in order to reduce the thrust steering from single engine operation.
And the surviving passengers were VERY fortunate that the failed turbine blade, or section of blades, only penetrated the cabin, vs. shredding various critical systems hidden in the wing itself.
The pilot did a fantastic, professional and PERFECT job of airmanship in landing that jet.
They train for those failures in the simulators... and not just once.
Every ATP rated commercial jet pilot, has likely "landed" in the sim, at least 100 times, with far more critical failures than just one dead engine.
Fact is, the instructors will "pile on" with multiple, chain effect failures in the simulator, that CAN NOT be survived. The very best pilots merely survive longer into the failure process, before the jenga blocks fall.
But she was from the Best of the Best of the Best, in Pilot rankings. Naval Aviator, Carrier Qualified, *and* not only Instructor Rated, but an Aggressor Pilot in Dissimilar Air Combat school.
That's tall cotton, folks.
She IS the badass female pilot that all the feminazis dream about.
Except for one teeny problem. She's also a hardcore, strong in the faith, witnessing Christian.
I'm looking forward to watching the mindbent left, deal with that particular quandary in the days ahead.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2018 12:00 AM (QzJWU)
Posted by: booknlass at April 19, 2018 12:01 AM (xGMkv)
Posted by: creeper at April 19, 2018 12:01 AM (LO5Qy)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 11:58 PM (eMKNe)
++++
I bought it and like it. But, not as good as their earlier work. Calling Elvis is probably the best track.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 12:02 AM (pvjTE)
Posted by: hogmartin at April
mostly tyring to guesstimate how accurate the American Hero commentary is. Sure it was rough but she was at 32k when the incident occurred so probably not as difficult as what sullenberger had to do.
this site has pretty good discussion of everything aviation
https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/607900-swa1380-diversion-kphl-after-engine-event.html
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:02 AM (MTjB1)
Then my sister discovered FM radio, and although at first I hated it, I found myself really enjoying Gary Numan, Blondie, and Casey Kasem's American Top 40. (Which by itself introduced me to tons of artists I'd heard of, but never actually heard, before, such as The Who).
So today when I check out at Amazon, I know I look schizophrenic: Anne Murray, T-Rex, Zappa and Chad & Jeremy, all in the same purchase.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 19, 2018 12:03 AM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Ruthless at April 18, 2018 11:59 PM (md3fh)
That's par for the course for a cat. They are the most selfish things around. And if they don't want to be ignored they know exactly what they aren't supposed to do that will really piss you off. And they do it. Over and over and over. Try typing something when the cat decides it wants your full attention. LOL.
Cats can be among the most selfish, neediest creatures around. They're just lucky that they can get away with it. Dogs know that if they tried to pull any of this shit they'd be outside in no time.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 12:03 AM (f41Sg)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 11:58 PM (eMKNe)
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Nothing involving Mark Knopfler is not good.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 19, 2018 12:03 AM (kLBhp)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 19, 2018 12:03 AM (Ckg4U)
Yeah, I imagine "bad" Knopfler is still better than 95% of everything else that's out there.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 19, 2018 12:03 AM (eMKNe)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 19, 2018 12:04 AM (KP5rU)
I'll bet I have at least one of them already.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 18, 2018 11:57 PM (eMKNe)
Martin Barre Back to Steel
Ian Anderson Homo Eraticus
Robin Trower Time and Emotion
Alice Cooper Welcome To My Nightmare
Warren Zevon Stand In The Fire
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 19, 2018 12:05 AM (3Pma+)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 18, 2018 11:57 PM (KP5rU)
That would certainly do it. They would have lost (some) lift and all power and gained drag on the left side and definitely felt that in the controls. And if the leading edge is torn up, they probably don't want to risk deploying slats. So, keep power and speed up for the landing. To answer the original question, yes, it would have been more serious than just losing power, but not as bad as losing hydraulics or something.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 19, 2018 12:05 AM (y87Qq)
But I do have the great Zevon compilation, Genius: The Best Of. And I *want* Bridge of sighs by Trower.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 19, 2018 12:06 AM (eMKNe)
Still nothing that a sober & sane pilot would want to experience
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 19, 2018 12:07 AM (3Pma+)
Scuttlebutt on the aviation blogs is that the 737-700 is underpowered. If that's true, getting that plane on the ground intact was even more heroic than everyone thinks.
Posted by: creeper at April 19, 2018 12:08 AM (LO5Qy)
A friend of mine described getting old as getting smaller. She moved from a large house to a condo, then to a small 55+ apartment, and finally to a hospice room. Every move meant sorting and tossing. I know that as soon as the last dog dies, Himself and I will move out of this huge house and into a small apartment where if anything goes wrong, all I do is pick up the phone and call maintenance. The moving is going to be a bitch. My house is stuffed full of everything my mother-in-law and her sister ever owned in their entire lives and boxes of beads, jewelry supplies, and needlework stuff left from the bookstore. Not to mention stuff left from my kids and a couple of their friends. I keep thinking a stick of dynamite would be the easiest solution.
Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at April 19, 2018 12:08 AM (BOdUR)
Posted by: hogmartin at April 18, 2018 11:52 PM (y87Qq)
Bet that she decelerated until the stall-buffet kicked in at a higher airspeed, then kept her airspeed just above that number.
Plus, one does not fly the final approach and flare on one engine, "on the numbers" to the normal "stall on contact" intersection of altitude AGL and true airspeed.
Oh, and if you think landing a Boeing 737 on one engine is a neat trick?
How 'bout landing an F-15 Eagle, with only one wing, after a midair collision?
https://tinyurl.com/j7unm5p
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2018 12:09 AM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Joe Biden at April 19, 2018 12:10 AM (1iS/9)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 19, 2018 12:11 AM (KP5rU)
Exactly? Lol
Bridge of sighs is good you won't be disappointed
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April 19, 2018 12:11 AM (3Pma+)
Except for one teeny problem. She's also a hardcore, strong in the faith, witnessing Christian.
I'm looking forward to watching the mindbent left, deal with that particular quandary in the days ahead.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2018 12:00 AM (QzJWU)
While the landing was nothing short of heroic, I think the part I love the most is that she then went into the cabin to greet every individual on board that plane. She gave a damn, and not for herself.
Hero.
Straight up.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 19, 2018 12:12 AM (NXsWM)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 19, 2018 12:13 AM (eMKNe)
Posted by: creeper at April 19, 2018 12:13 AM (LO5Qy)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 19, 2018 12:14 AM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at April 19, 2018 12:08 AM (BOdUR)
Start small, but be relentless.
Start with a shoebox, or so, and decide what stays and what goes. Find a place for what you keep, every time, and don't put off that final part. Throw the rest away, or sell it, or donate it.
Then, the other stuff comes faster.
Pick days when you feel happiest. That way, you will be more likely to be ruthless and toss out more, and keep going.
Don't keep doing it that day if it is depressing you. Walk away and try again tomorrow.
But do it, dammit.
Nobody wants to deal with the wall of crap left behind.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 19, 2018 12:15 AM (NXsWM)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarin at April
well yeah, but I am generally something of a stickler for words. hero gets thrown around lots, especially since baby jessica was labeled a hero for falling down a well.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:15 AM (MTjB1)
*recollects Aloha plane that lost chunk of fuselage*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2018 12:16 AM (FJXGr)
Hero.
Straight up.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April
where is the heroic part? the guy who unbuckled his seatbelt and went back to pull the woman getting sucked out the window back in was heroic.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:16 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 19, 2018 12:11 AM (KP5rU)
No doubt. So far I haven't heard anything to indicate that she, her FO, or the ATC on the ground wasn't the right person in the right place at the
Anyway, this time I'm REALLY going to bed.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 19, 2018 12:19 AM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 19, 2018 12:20 AM (fuK7c)
Get the meal plan. Or failing that a part time job and stock up on Ramen noodles.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 19, 2018 12:20 AM (Qlx4e)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:16 AM (MTjB1)
Not sure what you're driving for.
Are you asking can there be more than one hero in a given situation?
Posted by: dDan at April 19, 2018 12:20 AM (hwYmz)
From a Star Trek TNG episode:
Riker: "You were right. Somebody blew out the hatch. They were all sucked out into space."
Data: "Correction, sir, that's blown out."
Riker: "Thank you, Data."
Data: "A common mistake, sir."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 19, 2018 12:20 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 19, 2018 12:21 AM (Qlx4e)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 19, 2018 12:21 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 19, 2018 12:21 AM (KP5rU)
Posted by: hogmartin at April 19, 2018 12:05 AM (y87Qq)
*dingdingdingding!* We have a winner!
I don't recall seeing that the slats were deployed in the photos, and DO recall that the flaps were NOT in full landing configuration.
And I also know that as soon as that pilot brought the aircraft to a halt, fired up the APU and switched electrical "house load" thereto, she also shut down #2 engine, and then...
... LEFT EVERY DAMN SWITCH AND CONTROL IN THE COCKPIT AS IT WAS, UPON LANDING.
That's for the NTSC and FAA investigation teams.
So, no retraction of flaps n' slats. Things were left as they were, upon landing.
The photos will confirm the aircraft configuration as it was upon touchdown, 'cause that pilot didn't change a thing on rollout, and there was NO taxiing, thereafter.
She's every bit the Pro as Scully, even without the aggregate total flight hours.
And her flight challenge was the equal to his. He did NOT have to deal with sudden, asymmetric thrust and sudden, total cabin pressure loss.
Nor with the knowledge (she thought, per radio), that she'd lost a passenger overboard through a compromised cabin.
She will never, EVER have to buy a drink in a pilot's bar again, for the rest of her life.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2018 12:22 AM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 19, 2018 12:23 AM (Ckg4U)
It just hurts my head and I want them all to STFU.
And get me my strawberry-açaí refresher. Light water.
Posted by: Shopgirl at April 19, 2018 12:24 AM (DefRK)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 19, 2018 12:24 AM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at April 19, 2018 12:24 AM (BOdUR)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:16 AM (MTjB1)
++++
Yup. Some people call Michael Jordan heroic. Now, he had a fantastic work ethic, great talent, etc. But, it's not like he threw himself on a grenade to save his teammates or something. Lots of admirable qualities, even a role model. And, who know, if the situation arose, maybe he would do the heroic thing.
The pilot kept her head under pressure. She used her training and experience to land the plane and I commend her. But, nothing heroic about it. She was on that plane too. Failure to safely land would have killed her just as dead as everyone else. And, self-preservation is not heroic.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 12:25 AM (pvjTE)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at April 19, 2018 12:25 AM (lLeln)
Are you asking can there be more than one hero in a given situation?
Posted by: dDan at April
pilots actions weren't heroic. she was flying the plane. she would have had to do the same thing whether she was on the plane alone or had a cabin full of people. she didn't do something different or put herself at greater risk because there was a planeload of passengers. she did not assume any greater risk to guarantee the safety of the passengers.
she was maybe competent, skilled, professional, exceptional, superb but heroic does not apply to her. not knocking her, simply disagreeing with use of the word.
the guy that got up out of his seat, left his oxygen mask, risked getting sucked out a window, to pull in some woman he many not even known, that is heroic.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:26 AM (MTjB1)
Enron told me to say that!
Posted by: Paul Krugman, Experty Expert at April 19, 2018 12:26 AM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Shopgirl at April 19, 2018 12:26 AM (DefRK)
Posted by: Ruthless at April 19, 2018 12:27 AM (md3fh)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 19, 2018 12:23 AM (Ckg4U)
I was too busy typing long posts at 60 wpm, as is my wont.
/jamescomeyfbiselfrighteioiuslydeludeduselesssob
Sweet dreams, Slap!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2018 12:28 AM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at April 19, 2018 12:28 AM (BOdUR)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:28 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2018 12:30 AM (LM5QY)
GREENCASTLE, Ind. (WTHR) - For the second day in a row, dozens of students at DePauw University staged a protest amid racial tensions at the school.
Close to 75 students interrupted a press conference by the university president demanding action from administrators.
Over the past week, a number hate messages have been found around campus, including one that said "Kill all Ni**ers" in a university bathroom.
Protesters carried banners and chanted "we are not safe, meet our demands" in reference to a list of demands members of the Association of African American Students sent to school administrators.
President McCoy said he was reviewing the letter.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 19, 2018 12:30 AM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Jean at April
why would you do that? words have meaning, misusing them cheapens and debases them.
why do you want to call someone a hero who is not?
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:32 AM (MTjB1)
United States 12
China 11
Russia 6
India 3
Japan 3
Europe 2
New Zealand 1
Or, to put it another way:
China 11
SpaceX 8
Russia 6
United Launch Alliance 4
India 3
Japan 3
Europe 2
New Zealand 1
At the present flight rate, in about a year SpaceX will have launched more Falcon 9s since its debut in 2010 than ULA will have launched Atlas Vs since its debut in 2002.
Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2018 12:32 AM (sdi6R)
When your actions save someone from death or other horrible tragedy you can be legitimately considered a hero, whether it was your job to do it or not.
The problem with the rampant hero-labeling we have, these days, is that people whose actions don't save anyone but, possibly, themselves, are termed heroes. That is where the problem lies. But a cop who shoots a bad guy who's about to kill someone is a hero, even though that is his job. Sometimes being a hero is just part of the job.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 12:33 AM (f41Sg)
Except when it comes time to work on something mechanical or electrical. They are plumb ignorant. Ten years of elementary education is all they get.
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid, at April 18, 2018 10:58 PM (dw7D4)
Well that's weird, because my Amish neighbor that owns a very successful pluming,heating,cooling, and electrical business,and who's father collects and rebuilds old ford tractors will be rather shocked to learn they are just plum ignorant about these things.
Posted by: Long time lurker second time poster at April 19, 2018 12:34 AM (Rz2Nc)
Posted by: good show at April 19, 2018 12:35 AM (cG/Rh)
Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2018 12:30 AM (LM5QY)
I identify as competent.
Posted by: The Broward Coward at April 19, 2018 12:36 AM (J7NdS)
Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2018 12:36 AM (LM5QY)
See you then.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 19, 2018 12:37 AM (VBKy9)
Posted by: Max Power at April 19, 2018 12:37 AM (QCc6B)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 19, 2018 12:37 AM (VBKy9)
That sucks.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 19, 2018 12:21 AM (Ckg4U)
If you should die before you wake
I pray the Lord your soul to take.
And post haste.
There. Satisfied?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 19, 2018 12:37 AM (kLBhp)
youtube.com/watch?v=8Hz1QGvPROM
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 19, 2018 12:38 AM (6FqZa)
The problem with the rampant hero-labeling we have, these days, is that people whose actions don't save anyone but, possibly, themselves, are termed heroes. That is where the problem lies. But a cop who shoots a bad guy who's about to kill someone is a hero, even though that is his job. Sometimes being a hero is just part of the job.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
being a hero requires demonstration of exceptional courage. not to long ago I was on a street corner, the person in front of me was not paying attention and started to step off the curb into traffic right in front of a 18 wheeler. Right at the last second I grabbed their arm and yanked them back. Had never encountered them before. She yelled, nearly swung at me with her purse then she realized what happened and some old lady told her how lucky she was. She gave me a hug and we parted ways. definitely saved her from becoming roadkill but there was nothing heroic in my actions.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:38 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2018 12:36 AM (LM5QY)
Alsomhas? What's that?
Posted by: Surfperch at April 19, 2018 12:39 AM (J7NdS)
Posted by: LASue at April 19, 2018 12:39 AM (Z48ZB)
Linked over at Hot Air, of course.
I'll think about it after they join conservatives on free speech and second amendment. Address those, weenies.
WTF does address mean?
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 19, 2018 12:39 AM (4ZE6o)
Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2018 12:40 AM (LM5QY)
In cases such as Scully, and this particular Southwest pilot...
Sometimes, it TAKES a Hero to not FUCK IT UP.
I have read more about aviation failures than most, 'cause I have a writing project in the works, which I don't discuss because to do so would divulge the concept, and destroy the value.
The term "Hero" in aviation crisis mode, in my estimation, is a real and an earned recognition.
Yeah, they're saving their own life, they're not diving onto a grenade. I get that.
But you be the pilot trying to land the plane while choking in a smoke filled cockpit, and have to keep your head about you, and perform competently till you land or die.
I've listened to MANY cockpit tapes, where the aircrew was doing their job diligently, till the tape ended on impact.
Heroes.
Rhetoric to the contrary, fails.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2018 12:40 AM (QzJWU)
Molasses tomorrow will bring forth cognac.
Posted by: BBC Radio, sometime in 1944 at April 19, 2018 12:40 AM (cG/Rh)
Appreciate reply. Could generate quite a discussion.
I think, both deserve the hero label.
Posted by: dDan at April 19, 2018 12:40 AM (hwYmz)
Oh, fuck that shit. This is like the "do we thank bus drivers" stuff.
Of course she had training. Lots of people with training fuck up. Training gets you ready to meet the challenge you never want to face and no one knows how he'll react when faced with the actual challenge.
The girl is a hero as much as Sully is a hero.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 19, 2018 12:41 AM (fuK7c)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:38 AM (MTjB1)
If you had done that to her daughter I'm sure she would consider you a hero, and rightly so.
You don't have to be courageous to be a hero. You only have to do the right thing at the right time when someone is in serious danger.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 12:41 AM (f41Sg)
Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2018 12:42 AM (LM5QY)
Posted by: Hillary 2020! at April 19, 2018 12:42 AM (1iS/9)
Sometimes, it TAKES a Hero to not FUCK IT UP.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2018 12:40 AM (QzJWU)
Exactly. Performing under pressure is something that not everyone can do; it's beyond mere competence. Even people who have done it before can still lose their nerve at any given instant.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 12:44 AM (f41Sg)
Posted by: Paul Krugman, Experty Expert at April 19, 2018 12:44 AM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2018 12:44 AM (LM5QY)
Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2018 12:42 AM (LM5QY)
I don't see that option in the Wikipedia data, but that's a good idea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_in_spaceflight
Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2018 12:44 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 19, 2018 12:45 AM (IqV8l)
Lands a crippled airplane
Solves great mysteries
Hero
Not the handsome actor who plays a hero's role
Not the glamour girl, who'd love to sell her soul
Posted by: eh, looking back, those lyrics are stiff and trite. Try better next time, Neil. at April 19, 2018 12:48 AM (cG/Rh)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 19, 2018 12:48 AM (VBKy9)
In cases such as Scully, and this particular Southwest pilot...
Sometimes, it TAKES a Hero to not FUCK IT UP.
I have read more about aviation failures than most, 'cause I have a writing project in the works, which I don't discuss because to do so would divulge the concept, and destroy the value.
The term "Hero" in aviation crisis mode, in my estimation, is a real and an earned recognition.
Yeah, they're saving their own life, they're not diving onto a grenade. I get that.
But you be the pilot trying to land the plane while choking in a smoke filled cockpit, and have to keep your head about you, and perform competently till you land or die.
I've listened to MANY cockpit tapes, where the aircrew was doing their job diligently, till the tape ended on impact.
Heroes.
Rhetoric to the contrary, fails.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April
lots of adulatory words may be appropriate. hero is not one. the point is not to detract from them but to use the word correctly.
there was nothing heroic in their behavior. if you think there was what do you think was heroic? there is no evidence of heroism reported on behalf of the pilots.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:49 AM (MTjB1)
You don't have to be courageous to be a hero. You only have to do the right thing at the right time when someone is in serious danger.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
courage is part of the definition
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:49 AM (MTjB1)
President McCoy said he was reviewing the letter.
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The proper response to that sort of thing is, "After careful review, I have determined that none of the demands that you have submitted have anything to do with deterring racist vandalism. Come back to me when you have a list that actually does that."
Posted by: junior at April 19, 2018 12:52 AM (GhGLm)
Posted by: hogmartin at April 19, 2018 12:52 AM (y87Qq)
(Look at where he's got the unipod mounted...)
https://www.adorama.com/tpemp.html?rfkref=productPage
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 19, 2018 12:53 AM (eMKNe)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:54 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2018 12:40 AM (QzJWU)
And then there's the opposite of that, the flight that stalled and crashed into the ocean because one of the pilots kept pulling up while the stall warning was sounding, and no one else realized what was going on until it was too late.
Posted by: Sjg at April 19, 2018 12:55 AM (gDSJf)
"Just name a hero and I'll prove he's a bum..."
That starts the blurb on the back cover of the paperback edition of Baa Baa Black Sheep that I have.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 19, 2018 12:56 AM (Qlx4e)
Posted by: I hate to agree with Y5 almost more than hating to agree with Bunderdunce at April 19, 2018 12:57 AM (cG/Rh)
"Just name a hero and I'll prove he's a bum..."
That starts the blurb on the back cover of the paperback edition of Baa Baa Black Sheep that I have.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April
really? have I said someone was a bum?
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 12:57 AM (MTjB1)
Back in '87, I was riding my '83 Gold Wing Aspencade back to work, after lunch.
E. Commerce St., San Antonio, TX.
Shortly before the Griggs intersection, the (then) street construction threw a lane change to the left, into the mix.
This was SUDDENLY, as said lane change didn't exist when I rode off to lunch.
The good news? They were also pumping muddy water out of the construction site, across the lane that was now suddenly a chicane.
Did I mention the elevation change, falling off to the left?
I stayed on the brakes till I had to actually maneuver the bike, then used every bit of my skill, experience and internal gyroscope, to steer the 800 lb. bike through the curves, without becoming a part of the curves, myself.
I really, truly, thought I was going to crash on those muddy, slippery, off camber curves.
But somehow, rode it out and made it back to the office.
I *HEROICALLY* rode out the near disaster.
No cameras recorded my feat.
Witnesses, if any, failed to come forward to testify.
But, in that ride, I overcame every law of physics arrayed against me, drew from every fiber of my training, experience and skill, and OVERCAME truly impossible odds, to emerge on the other side, victorious.
So, I'm the only fan to cheer my own heroism in that particular instance.
But if you cast aspersions upon my accomplishment, we're gonna be at odds.
I was there, and I experienced it. You weren't. And I value my opinion in the matter JUST a bit more than yours.
Whoever you are.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2018 12:58 AM (QzJWU)
WTF does address mean?
Posted by: Les Kinetic
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It means 'express concern', okay, 'demonstrate concern'...no, wait...it means submit to subjugation, and admit your guilt.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2018 12:59 AM (nBBdT)
Posted by: Smh in wonderment at April 19, 2018 12:59 AM (NH+2c)
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From what I've read, he legitimately earned his Nobel Prize.
Apparently the same can't be said for his columns, though.
Posted by: junior at April 19, 2018 01:00 AM (GhGLm)
Back in '87, I was riding my '83 Gold Wing Aspencade back to work, after lunch.
E. Commerce St., San Antonio, TX.
Shortly before the Griggs intersection, the (then) street construction threw a lane change to the left, into the mix.
This was SUDDENLY, as said lane change didn't exist when I rode off to lunch.
The good news? They were also pumping muddy water out of the construction site, across the lane that was now suddenly a chicane.
Did I mention the elevation change, falling off to the left?
I stayed on the brakes till I had to actually maneuver the bike, then used every bit of my skill, experience and internal gyroscope, to steer the 800 lb. bike through the curves, without becoming a part of the curves, myself.
I really, truly, thought I was going to crash on those muddy, slippery, off camber curves.
But somehow, rode it out and made it back to the office.
I *HEROICALLY* rode out the near disaster.
No cameras recorded my feat.
Witnesses, if any, failed to come forward to testify.
But, in that ride, I overcame every law of physics arrayed against me, drew from every fiber of my training, experience and skill, and OVERCAME truly impossible odds, to emerge on the other side, victorious.
So, I'm the only fan to cheer my own heroism in that particular instance.
But if you cast aspersions upon my accomplishment, we're gonna be at odds.
I was there, and I experienced it. You weren't. And I value my opinion in the matter JUST a bit more than yours.
Whoever you are.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April
I *HEROICALLY* rode out the near disaster.
no you didn't. words have meaning and you are misapplying the word.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:00 AM (MTjB1)
Buddy was a long, wide, thick, short-legged, big-eared dope of a cat (dumb really, but sweet) who came around once in awhile and had a dred habit, but someone must have been shearing him periodically. He was too clumsy to feed by hand -- he didn't mean to bite but he was 'tarded. He loved having his ears stroked and had a very deep purr. He tried to move in one day when he was dying. I already had Toonses in a bad way so I couldn't keep Buddy - they got along ok so long as Toonses was the only cat in the house. I made a nice hiding place for Buddy under my rear steps and never saw him again.
Shadow was a classic feral cat - short black hair and hissed a lot. He still expected me to leave food for him and I did. One day Buddy charged up my upstairs neighbor's rear steps and knocked Shadow 10' or so to the dirt below. Shadow ran off. I gave Buddy extra treats.
The last kitty is my current old lady, the sweetie I named "Dorkie Dork". She was, at most, 6#. She's something of a ragamuffin/ragdoll mix with maybe a bit of Persian in her. She was very dainty and elegant, fluffy, but I couldn't get within 15' of her or she'd run off. I used to yell to her in the backyard (not knowing her gender) "If you stop being a dork and come over here, let me pet you, you'll get more food." It took about 3-4 years, but she was so hungry one January day, she got to chowing down out of a bowl while I crouched beside her. Eventually I rub her head gently, expecting her to bolt. She looked up and went back to eating. I continued rubbing gently. At that point, she started coming up to me and eventually came inside to eat (but Toonses hated her and was afraid of her -- seriously) so until I put him to sleep, she could only come in the kitchen (back of the house). That night, when I went to bed as distraught as I could be, she curled up on my right shoulder and became my full-time kitty. She could still come and go as she pleased, but she basically was an indoor cat who played in the backyard during sun up. Now she's old and has health problems -- had to have her right rear leg amputated 2 years ago (nearly died), kidney disease, benign tumor on her liver, etc., but damn, there isn't a a sweeter or more loving cat out there. Even my girlfriend -- a dog person -- has fallen in love with Dorkie Dork (aka Kitty, Kitty baby, or Kitten) and vice versa. She cradles Kitty against her bosom like a baby and that cat just purrs away, gives her "acceptance paw" (my brother calls it) by gently pawing her cheeks, winks at her, moves her tail languidly, etc. It's going to be so hard when DD goes.
So shooting feral cats -- FU. We should shoot feral humans instead.
Posted by: SFGoth at April 19, 2018 01:01 AM (KAi1n)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:01 AM (MTjB1)
Of course she had training. Lots of people with training fuck up. Training gets you ready to meet the challenge you never want to face and no one knows how he'll react when faced with the actual challenge.
The girl is a hero as much as Sully is a hero.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 19, 2018 12:41 AM (fuK7c)
++++
Yes, she was as much of a hero as Sully. But, Sully wasn't a hero. I'm not knocking either one of them, but they're still not heroes.
Don't know what you are referring to with the bus driver thing. Something about them being glorified bus drivers? I suppose there is something to that point of view. Pilots do need much more training, but they get much better pay. There is that old canard about flying being safer than driving a car, so maybe bus drivers are putting their lives on the line more than pilots. However, I wouldn't call a bus driver a hero either, not just because he was doing good bus driver things.
Now, if a pilot or a bus driver did something to take down a terrorist who was going to blow up the plane or bus, now we could be talking heroics.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:02 AM (pvjTE)
It's not the true thing, but it does sound polite.
Posted by: Sjg at April 19, 2018 01:04 AM (gDSJf)
I would say the pilots of the Gimli Glider or the DC-10 at Sioux Falls were heroes. Sully kept his act together when he was handed a pair of deuces and got his plane down turning a catastrophic fold into a royal flush.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 19, 2018 01:04 AM (Qlx4e)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 19, 2018 01:05 AM (Qlx4e)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 19, 2018 01:05 AM (Ckg4U)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:02 AM (pvjTE)
Most airline pilots - maybe "almost all" - would have tried to get back to the field and would have crashed and probably killed everyone aboard and maybe a whole shitload on the ground, too. That would have the normal conclusion to the episode Sully got them through, unscathed.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:05 AM (f41Sg)
I mean, they feel you are, but you can't call what they do thinking.
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 01:06 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: SFGoth at April 19, 2018 01:01 AM (KAi1n)
++++
Those mostly sound like stray cats rather than feral cats. Not the same thing.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:07 AM (pvjTE)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 19, 2018 01:08 AM (d4iVA)
I've twice had occasions to do something that risked my safety and save people. I never considered myself a hero for it. One was running into a dark stairwell to face the unknown when it sounded like a child was being set upon (it was just a guy abusing his ex and I held him until the cops came, the kid was just freaked out), and the other was watching a guy get run over and giving him succor and keeping him from getting run over again until official help came.)
I didn't consider myself a hero in either case, but I was glad to find out that I reacted the way I'd have hoped I'd react. But you don't know how you'll react until you have to react.
I wish I had SW Airline's girl's name at the tip of my tongue, but I don't yet. She and Sully carried a lot more responsibility than I've ever held and the handled it.
What extraordinary act does it take to qualify for heroism in your book?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 19, 2018 01:08 AM (fuK7c)
I would say the pilots of the Gimli Glider or the DC-10 at Sioux Falls were heroes. Sully kept his act together when he was handed a pair of deuces and got his plane down turning a catastrophic fold into a royal flush.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April
this is not simply me making things up. there are things called dictionaries, they have definitions that tell you what words mean and how they are used. just because we want to honor someone does not mean that we bestow an honor upon them they did not earn or that does not fit their actions.
heroism is rare that is why it is a big deal. that is why they only hand out a medal for heroism or throw a parade rarely.
if you compare the actions of the pilot and the passenger that pulled the lady back in one is clearly heroic.
the pilot may have been exceptional or extraordinary but not heroic.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:08 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:05 AM (f41Sg)
++++
Which makes him a helluva pilot. Not the same as being a hero.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:09 AM (pvjTE)
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 01:11 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:08 AM (MTjB1)
You seem to enjoy conflating the idea of "being a hero to someone" and "being a hero". They are different and both are legitimate uses of the word.
BTW, dictionaries aren't the last word in definitions. The friggin OED lists "meh" as a word. 'Nuff said on that.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:11 AM (f41Sg)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 19, 2018 01:11 AM (Qlx4e)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:09 AM (pvjTE)
Oy.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:12 AM (f41Sg)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 19, 2018 01:11 AM (Qlx4e)
Damn, Anna. I had to look that one up. Thank you.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 19, 2018 01:13 AM (d4iVA)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:14 AM (pvjTE)
I didn't consider myself a hero in either case, but I was glad to find out that I reacted the way I'd have hoped I'd react. But you don't know how you'll react until you have to react.
I wish I had SW Airline's girl's name at the tip of my tongue, but I don't yet. She and Sully carried a lot more responsibility than I've ever held and the handled it.
What extraordinary act does it take to qualify for heroism in your book?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April
you are describing the distinction between hero and exceptional performance yourself. you assumed risk that you did not have to or put yourself in harms way for no other reason than to prevent someone else from coming to harm. that is heroic. you did something dangerous that you did not have to to help someone else.
presumably if you had done nothing you would have been fine. presumably you were not in a capacity that expected you to perform the actions you did.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:14 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:14 AM (pvjTE)
I remember that story...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 19, 2018 01:15 AM (F5+ro)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at April 19, 2018 01:15 AM (IcT7t)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:14 AM (pvjTE)
No. That person was stupid and reckless.
Sticking your head out of a sun roof isn't an act of fearlessness.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:16 AM (f41Sg)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:16 AM (pvjTE)
BTW, dictionaries aren't the last word in definitions. The friggin OED lists "meh" as a word. 'Nuff said on that.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
well, actually you would be the one conflating the two. I am very clear on what a hero is.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:16 AM (MTjB1)
- sport figures are not heroes
- duty and heroics are not mutually exclusive
IMO
This took 10 min. To type, so I am over and out.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 19, 2018 01:16 AM (F0aU4)
My sense of heroism, if it just has to be characterized, has a lot to do with selflessly placing oneself at risk when one doesn't have to.
While I'm no admirer of the man, and while the circumstances may have been due to his own neglect, I'll give JFK points for his response to the sinking of PT-109. When he was asked what it was that inspired his 'heroism' after the sinking, he responded, "I had no choice, they sank my boat."
Which is to say, he wasn't acting selflessly, but was simply coping with the circumstances to the best of his ability
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2018 01:16 AM (cp1if)
Meet Adrian Carton de Wiart:
https://bit.ly/2Hc8ym1
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 19, 2018 01:16 AM (fuK7c)
Or undaunted.
That decapitation is Darwin in action.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 19, 2018 01:17 AM (Qlx4e)
I hit my brakes and a woman behind me rear-ended me. It was a low-speed impact so there was no damage.
We both got out and she was all apologetic. I said, "It wasn't your fault. Did you SEE that?", and gestured toward the long-gone pickup truck.
She hadn't seen it. I could have gunned it and gotten out in front of the pickup truck, but if she had followed right behind me she would have been T-boned for sure.
I never considered myself a hero, but I may well have saved her life. I wasn't even thinking of the woman behind me at the time. I wasn't in a hurry to get anywhere and just decided to let the asshole go by before pulling out.
Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2018 01:17 AM (sdi6R)
Sticking your head out of a sun roof isn't an act of fearlessness.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:16 AM (f41Sg)
++++
Yes, they were stupid and reckless. And fearless. They did not have fear. They were lacking in fear. They were fearless.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:17 AM (pvjTE)
Uh ... no.
I am very clear on what a hero is.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:16 AM (MTjB1)
Clear, and incorrect.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:18 AM (f41Sg)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:18 AM (MTjB1)
I don't think I agree though. Was Audie Murphy less a hero because he was trained for combat?
Here is another question: does heroism depend on success? Were the soldiers who charged the stone wall at Fredricksburg any less heroic and gallant for their actions being futile? Were the confederates at Gettysburg? The Spartans at Thermopylae? (Although this is a bad comparison because their action was a strategic victory since it allowed the Greeks time to prepare.)
Does equipment matter? Were the three guys on the train in France less or more heroic because they were unarmed and the terrorist was? How does the fact that they had training factor in?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 19, 2018 01:18 AM (d4iVA)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
hero is a word. it has a definition. things either fit the definition or not. these are not things I am jsut making up.
really, google dictionary.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:19 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: prof disarray
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Heh. This took
Nighters all youse.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2018 01:20 AM (cp1if)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 19, 2018 01:20 AM (6FqZa)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:18 AM (MTjB1)
Don't follow your logic there. Can you explain?
Posted by: dDan at April 19, 2018 01:20 AM (hwYmz)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 19, 2018 01:20 AM (Qlx4e)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 19, 2018 01:20 AM (6FqZa)
Good?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 19, 2018 01:20 AM (d4iVA)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 19, 2018 01:21 AM (d4iVA)
Yes, they were stupid and reckless. And fearless. They did not have fear. They were lacking in fear. They were fearless.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:17 AM (pvjTE)
Dude ... you're just screwing with me, now.
So you think that someone sticking their arm out of a car window in the wind is demonstrating some sort of fearlessness?
I mean, really ... Because I see utterly fearless people all over the roads, then.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:22 AM (f41Sg)
And on that note, thanks for the fun chat tonight everyone.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 19, 2018 01:22 AM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Smh in wonderment at April 19, 2018 01:22 AM (NH+2c)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo
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Those are called 'Cubans' in Miami.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2018 01:22 AM (c/EDo)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:18 AM (MTjB1)
That's just ridiculous.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:23 AM (f41Sg)
And their argument tends to go from here: who can say who is a hero to whom? So with all viewpoints being equal, anybody who is a hero TO someone gets the label "hero"--except anybody who believes that Trump is a hero--they just need therapy or to be removed from the public.
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 01:23 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 19, 2018 01:24 AM (d4iVA)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 19, 2018 01:20 AM (6FqZa)
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RIP.
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 01:24 AM (JhE5a)
I don't think I agree though. Was Audie Murphy less a hero because he was trained for combat?
Here is another question: does heroism depend on success? Were the soldiers who charged the stone wall at Fredricksburg any less heroic and gallant for their actions being futile? Were the confederates at Gettysburg? The Spartans at Thermopylae? (Although this is a bad comparison because their action was a strategic victory since it allowed the Greeks time to prepare.)
Does equipment matter? Were the three guys on the train in France less or more heroic because they were unarmed and the terrorist was? How does the fact that they had training factor in?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April
the training is not the problem. Dakota Meyer was trained for his job but demonstrated exceptional bravery, some might even say above and beyond the call of duty.
had sullenberger had the option to land the plane in a way that would guarantee his safety but increase the risk to everyone else and had he chosen to place their safety above his, that would be heroic or at least more heroic.
you have to make a choice to assume risk you could otherwise avoid.
calling everyone a hero cheapens what it means to real heroes.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:24 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 19, 2018 01:25 AM (d4iVA)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at April 19, 2018 01:26 AM (IcT7t)
Posted by: dDan at April
words have defined meanings. open them up for debate and let people redefine them to mean whatever they want them to mean and you wind up with the problems we have with the second amendment and everything else that has been reinterpreted.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:27 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 01:28 AM (JhE5a)
Your dictionaries are all fucked up, and retarded.
My Gold Wing (near) mishap required courage, which was supplied and applied, effectively.
In all of Human history... a Hero is simply one that is lauded, celebrated and held on high for a given act of bravery, courage or accomplishment, of which the "common man" could not imagine themselves doing.
Fuck the "Throws Self on Grenade" standard that you hold so dear.
Dr. Jonas Salk was a Hero to humanity.
So is Dr. Bourland for feeding all the world.
Roger Bannister is the Hero of the Four Minute Mile.
And you?
You're the Hero of Zero, so much as I can tell from your dour postings, here.
Enjoy your irrelevance, sir.
I'm to the snoozer now, y'all.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2018 01:28 AM (QzJWU)
No, you don't. You just have to save someone or some number of people from a disaster.
calling everyone a hero cheapens what it means to real heroes.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:24 AM (MTjB1)
This hardly leads into calling everyone a hero. This, is what we call a "strawman argument".
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:29 AM (f41Sg)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at April 19, 2018 01:30 AM (IcT7t)
My Gold Wing (near) mishap required courage, which was supplied and applied, effectively.
In all of Human history... a Hero is simply one that is lauded, celebrated and held on high for a given act of bravery, courage or accomplishment, of which the "common man" could not imagine themselves doing.
Fuck the "Throws Self on Grenade" standard that you hold so dear.
Dr. Jonas Salk was a Hero to humanity.
So is Dr. Bourland for feeding all the world.
Roger Bannister is the Hero of the Four Minute Mile.
And you?
You're the Hero of Zero, so much as I can tell from your dour postings, here.
Enjoy your irrelevance, sir.
I'm to the snoozer now, y'all.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April
don't make me tear down your achievements. being a hero requires courage. having courage does not make you a hero. you may have had nerves of steel. you may have had giant brass clanger. nothing you did was heroic because all you did was save your own hide.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:30 AM (MTjB1)
So you think that someone sticking their arm out of a car window in the wind is demonstrating some sort of fearlessness?
I mean, really ... Because I see utterly fearless people all over the roads, then.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:22 AM (f41Sg)
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Heh. I'm screwing with you? You're the one who chose to object to the way I used the word.
And, yes. When people have a lack of fear, that's fearless. The fearlessness maybe extremely reckless or brave or whatever else you want to call it, but is is still fearlessness.
I too see many fearless people on the roads. Perhaps it's that they have never been in an accident, or maybe just a lack of imagination. For whatever reason, they don't fear the possible consequences of their actions. They are fearless.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:31 AM (pvjTE)
No, you don't. You just have to save someone or some number of people from a disaster.
calling everyone a hero cheapens what it means to real heroes.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:24 AM (MTjB1)
This hardly leads into calling everyone a hero. This, is what we call a "strawman argument".
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
so, how about this. say there is a cruise ship a thousand miles from shore and it is going to sink because there is a software error. no one on the ship can fix it because some reason. so they call back to shore on the sat phone and someone at headquarters pushes a single key to fix the software error, it fixes the software error and everything is fine. does he qualify as a hero? I would say not.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:34 AM (MTjB1)
My Gold Wing (near) mishap required courage, which was supplied and applied, effectively.
In all of Human history... a Hero is simply one that is lauded, celebrated and held on high for a given act of bravery, courage or accomplishment, of which the "common man" could not imagine themselves doing.
Fuck the "Throws Self on Grenade" standard that you hold so dear.
Dr. Jonas Salk was a Hero to humanity.
So is Dr. Bourland for feeding all the world.
Roger Bannister is the Hero of the Four Minute Mile.
And you?
You're the Hero of Zero, so much as I can tell from your dour postings, here.
Enjoy your irrelevance, sir.
I'm to the snoozer now, y'all.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April
by the way, I thought we were having a legitimate difference of opinion between gentlemen, however, if you want to make this personal and permanent, let me know and I will make a point to address your comments more frequently.
let me know when you come to your senses and are ready to apologize.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:37 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2018 01:37 AM (y3sT9)
No. Fearlessness is not just the lack of fear. It's the lack of fear in cases where most people would experience fear. No one talks about being fearless about eating toast. Sure, you have no fear in eating toast .. but no normal person does. So we don't bother to classify that act as "fearless" even though it occurs without any fear involved.
I too see many fearless people on the roads. Perhaps it's that they have never been in an accident, or maybe just a lack of imagination. For whatever reason, they don't fear the possible consequences of their actions. They are fearless.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:31 AM (pvjTE)
No. Most of them are not fearless, in the least - not even about the acts they are doing. They don't have fear about sticking their hands out the windows because they don't imagine that anything bad could possibly come from it - as you stated just above. But that is not "fearlessness". There has to be a normal state of fear about something in order for someone to do it "fearlessly".
You wouldn't describe your opening of your front door to walk in to be a fearless act. You know you wouldn't. Because there is no normal fear associated with that. Now, maybe if there was some front door bomber around that might change, but as things stand now, opening the front door to walk in is not an act of fearlessness. It's just an act.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:38 AM (f41Sg)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:30 AM (MTjB1)
There's that "throws self on grenade" strawman again.
It's fucked up, too, and it's shit is similarly, all retarded.
Your insistence on the argument of your definition, lies entirely within your own grasp of whatever dictionaries you have at hand.
But it also flies in the face of the whole of human experience, history, legend and lore.
You, and your dictionaries... are not on the persuasive side of this argument.
I've got to hit the pillow. Alarm clock is unforgiving, and without compromise.
You all carry on without me. I'm sure that the least of you can subdue Y5s best arguments with one hand tied behind your back, just to make it fair.
/rush
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April 19, 2018 01:38 AM (QzJWU)
You still a ginormous dick, Y5. Good to know.
Has this place been no fun at all since Maet left?
Posted by: Kahlua & Baileys at April 19, 2018 01:38 AM (0X6/I)
It's fucked up, too, and it's shit is similarly, all retarded.
Your insistence on the argument of your definition, lies entirely within your own grasp of whatever dictionaries you have at hand.
But it also flies in the face of the whole of human experience, history, legend and lore.
You, and your dictionaries... are not on the persuasive side of this argument.
I've got to hit the pillow. Alarm clock is unforgiving, and without compromise.
You all carry on without me. I'm sure that the least of you can subdue Y5s best arguments with one hand tied behind your back, just to make it fair.
/rush
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at April
buy a dictionary. look up "strawman."
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:39 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2018 01:37 AM (y3sT9)
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"War" is obvious hyperbole and not actually not what most people would think is going on.
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 01:40 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:34 AM (MTjB1)
The guy who wrote the code that fixed it is the hero.
Next!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:40 AM (f41Sg)
Next!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
what was heroic?
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:41 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:39 AM (MTjB1)
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Saved you the money: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/straw%20man
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 01:41 AM (JhE5a)
If you look inside your heart
You don't have to be afraid
Of what you are
There's an answer
If you reach into your soul
And the sorrow that you know
Will melt away.
And then a hero comes along
With the strength to carry on
And you cast your fears aside
And you know you can survive.
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 01:41 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: Mariah Carey at April 19, 2018 01:41 AM (kUotE)
Next!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
what if he was the guy that caused the error that almost sank the ship?
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:41 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:41 AM (MTjB1)
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Then JFK gets a medal.
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 01:42 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:41 AM (MTjB1)
He saved 1,000 or 5,000 or whatever lives. I'm sure they would all consider him a hero if they knew what was going on.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:43 AM (f41Sg)
Posted by: Bo Donaldson and the Heywoods at April 19, 2018 01:44 AM (djCea)
You still a ginormous dick, Y5. Good to know.
Has this place been no fun at all since Maet left?
Posted by: Kahlua & Baileys at April
how are the reading is fundamental classes coming?
you either left out a word or used the wrong punctuation.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:44 AM (MTjB1)
Good night NSA, with your suspicious looks.
Good night 'ettes, 29 and fair.
Good night lurkers everywhere!
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at April 19, 2018 01:45 AM (IcT7t)
What's your threshold?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 19, 2018 01:45 AM (fuK7c)
FE'ARLESS, adjective
1. Free from fear; as fearless of death; fearless of consequences.
2. Bold; courageous; intrepid; undaunted; as a fearless hero; a fearless foe.
http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/fearless
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 01:45 AM (pvjTE)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
what is the definition of "hero" you use?
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:46 AM (MTjB1)
About those columns, though..
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 01:46 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:41 AM (MTjB1)
What if the kidnapper turns around and performs an act of uncommon courage, taking on extreme risk to his person in order to save his hostage's life?
You can look for the creases in any word's uses. That is the nature of human language.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:46 AM (f41Sg)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:41 AM (MTjB1)
James Tiberius Kirk may have at times unwittingly caused the very dilemma he would later be forced to solve, but that in no way diminishes his heroism.
Posted by: Sjg at April 19, 2018 01:47 AM (gDSJf)
What's your threshold?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April
heroic requires you to assume risk and be courageous. I may not have answered your comment in particular but have done so throughout the thread.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:47 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:46 AM (MTjB1)
I already wrote it down EXPLICITLY for you. Go look at my old posts.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:48 AM (f41Sg)
Guess what, Sport - you saved a human life. You're a fucking hero.
But you're still a dick.
Posted by: Kahlua & Baileys at April 19, 2018 01:48 AM (0X6/I)
"War" is obvious hyperbole and not actually not what most people would think is going on.
Posted by: Axeman
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Did I say 'wars'? Durnnit. Fat finger syndrome, I meant 'whores'.
Now, not literally 'whores', but metaphorically, which is to say, not exactly.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2018 01:49 AM (nBBdT)
You can look for the creases in any word's uses. That is the nature of human language.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
I am not talking about creases I am talking about the girders. in your scenario the kidnapper takes on extreme risk. now it depends why he did it but that could be heroic. did he have a change of mind about kidnapping? was he protecting the hostage from his colleagues? was he merely trying to protect the hostage to get the ransom? those all matter.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:50 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Bonnie Tyler at April 19, 2018 01:50 AM (gDSJf)
Posted by: Mariah Carey at April 19, 2018 01:51 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
Is this your definition?
When your actions save someone from death or other horrible tragedy you can be legitimately considered a hero, whether it was your job to do it or not.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:52 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: The Semantic Whores at April 19, 2018 01:52 AM (JhE5a)
really, google dictionary.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:19 AM (MTjB1)
If you think any word has one single, set definition then your grasp of English, and language in general, is lacking.
That said, your idea of the proper uses of "hero" is incorrect. Not just overly limited - which it is - but incorrect, too.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:52 AM (f41Sg)
Posted by: Batman at April 19, 2018 01:53 AM (L7t0A)
Posted by: Smh in wonderment at April 19, 2018 01:54 AM (NH+2c)
That said, your idea of the proper uses of "hero" is incorrect. Not just overly limited - which it is - but incorrect, too.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
words have meaning. the meanings include and exclude certain things. not everything is heroic.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:55 AM (MTjB1)
When your actions save someone from death or other horrible tragedy you can be legitimately considered a hero, whether it was your job to do it or not.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:52 AM (MTjB1)
That works for me. You can add a positive side too, if you like, but in the context of disaster that is my working definition.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:56 AM (f41Sg)
That said, your idea of the proper uses of "hero" is incorrect. Not just overly limited - which it is - but incorrect, too.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
point me to a dictionary definition of hero that you agree with.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:57 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Batman at April 19, 2018 01:57 AM (L7t0A)
Posted by: Batman
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Yeah, that guy needs some anger management training.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2018 01:57 AM (ZpfqO)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:55 AM (MTjB1)
Again with the strawman.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:57 AM (f41Sg)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
it was posted by you at 470. I will keep looking if it was not what you were thinking of.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:58 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 19, 2018 01:57 AM (ZpfqO)
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Bah! You sound like Banner!
Posted by: Hulk at April 19, 2018 01:59 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:57 AM (MTjB1)
I am my own dictionary.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 01:59 AM (f41Sg)
When your actions save someone from death or other horrible tragedy you can be legitimately considered a hero, whether it was your job to do it or not.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 01:52 AM (MTjB1)
See my #544. By that definition I was a hero, even though I wasn't even aware of the woman behind me.
I don't think what I did was the least bit heroic. I just wasn't in a hurry, is all.
Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2018 01:59 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Hiro Nakamura at April 19, 2018 02:00 AM (kUotE)
We could do a tune about this.
Posted by: The Strawbs at April 19, 2018 02:00 AM (ZpfqO)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
that is not a strawman argument. the point is that definitions include and exclude things.
how is my definition incorrect? considering courage to be a requirement for heroism is not unusual.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 02:01 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: The Strawbs at April 19, 2018 02:00 AM (ZpfqO)
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I hear the initial strains of that song in my head.
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 02:01 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
well that solves that then.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 02:02 AM (MTjB1)
it's just little old me
Posted by: Underdog at April 19, 2018 02:02 AM (gDSJf)
Posted by: The Strawbs at April 19, 2018 02:00 AM (ZpfqO)
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Us too.
Posted by: Ratt at April 19, 2018 02:02 AM (JhE5a)
Yep, Y5 is now the ONT asshole. The best ONTs lack Y5's commentary.
Posted by: Hambone at April 19, 2018 02:02 AM (/uYLX)
I don't think what I did was the least bit heroic. I just wasn't in a hurry, is all.
Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2018 01:59 AM (sdi6R)
I think I would file incidental heroism under a different category, altogether. Though some are certainly considered heroes for actions that weren't necessarily willful.
Honestly, in the case you describe you imagine that she was headed towards certain disaster but she likely didn't think so (by your account of it) and wouldn't consider your act to be heroic towards her in any way, no matter.
When I said "save somebody" I meant really save them from impending doom - they would generally need to recognize it to call you a hero to them. If they didn't think they were in danger then they wouldn't give any of your actions a second thought.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 02:04 AM (f41Sg)
Hero and Leander is the Greek myth relating the story of Hero (Ancient Greek: Ἡρώ, Hērṓ; pron. like "hero" in English), a priestess of Aphrodite who dwelt in a tower in Sestos on the European side of the Hellespont (today's Dardanelles), and Leander (Ancient Greek: Λέανδρος, Léandros), a young man from Abydos on the opposite side of the strait.
Posted by: Wiki at April 19, 2018 02:04 AM (c/EDo)
I don't think what I did was the least bit heroic. I just wasn't in a hurry, is all.
Posted by: rickl at April
I hope you do not think you are disagreeing with me because you are not, that is someone else's definition which I completely disagree with.
I agree that you may have saved her life but your actions were not heroic. You would have had to have an intention to save her life for your actions to be heroic.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 02:05 AM (MTjB1)
Yep, Y5 is now the ONT asshole. The best ONTs lack Y5's commentary.
Posted by: Hambone at April
you two are so cute! look at y'all, calling names and all!
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 02:07 AM (MTjB1)
I took time time to look it up, and here's what I've got, as far as sussing out this congressional referral thing. Let me know what I've gotten wrong:
Comey:
-Obstruction of proceedings before Congress
- (Theft or disposal of) Public money, property or records
- Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
- Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
- Perjury
-Willful misrepresentation
Clinton:
-Unlawful Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
Lynch:
-Obstruction of proceedings before Congress
McCabe:
- Perjury
-Willful misrepresentation
-Obstruction of proceedings
Strzok/Page:
-Obstruction of proceedings
DoJ/FBI signatories of Carter Page FISA Warrant Application (unnamed):
-Deprivation of rights under color of law
- Obstruction of proceedings before Congress
Posted by: Paul Krugman at April 19, 2018 02:09 AM (UiRxW)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 19, 2018 02:09 AM (UiRxW)
Posted by: Ving Rhames at April 19, 2018 02:09 AM (gDSJf)
I wonder how wild & crazy they get when away from home.
Posted by: ALH at April 18, 2018 10:14 PM (YYn2L)
Probably have a 'zine, on a printing press like Franklin used.
Posted by: Bete, deplorable bot of Melancholy at April 19, 2018 02:10 AM (Ojki1)
Murder -> Death does not mean that Death is dependent on Murder. But it means that you will never have a Murder without there also being a death.
Without an intent to risk, no archetypal heroism can be done.
Posted by: Ratt at April 19, 2018 02:10 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 02:01 AM (MTjB1)
You can't know if someone is being courageous or doesn't understand the risks or doesn't care or is suicidal, so you really can't include the requirement of courage in the definition since that is unknowable.
Now, when you and your various dictionaries use the word "courage" in the definition you are really talking about something else - an act that you couldn't see yourself doing or that you would be scared to do (though you might do it). That isn't courage in the hero but only the requirement of courage in the mind of the person calling him a hero.
However, that kind-of, sort-of courage sort of thing is not a requirement to be a hero. It may occur in many acts of heroism but that is incidental.
A plague is sweeping the Earth and all people will be dead within 10 days. A scientist comes up with a cure and saves the world. He saves the entire world. Now, you can't get more heroic than that, since there would be no humans without his actions. He saved, literally, EVERYBODY. No courage. No fearlessness. No nothing. He just happened to solve a problem that no one else could and saved the future of Man.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 02:11 AM (f41Sg)
that is someone else's definition which I completely disagree with.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 02:05 AM (MTjB1)
That wasn't clear to me in your comment.
Posted by: rickl at April 19, 2018 02:13 AM (sdi6R)
Defeating the Big Bad with uncommon fighting ability, for example.
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 02:15 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 02:16 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 19, 2018 02:11 AM (f41Sg)
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Although, I didn't see your post, that would be included in the uncommon--or rare--feat of skill category. And I think that's why we normally think of "bravery" as "heroic" because we're implying that it's an uncommon bravery.
In Greek, "'ero" is practically synonymous with demigod.
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 02:17 AM (JhE5a)
[ ] Heroic
[*] Not Heroic
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 02:16 AM (kUotE)
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Depends on how much a fight the ONT puts up.
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 02:18 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at April 19, 2018 02:19 AM (vHiu7)
Why are there Interstate highways in Hawaii?
Why is there braille on drive-up ATMs?
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 02:19 AM (kUotE)
Now, when you and your various dictionaries use the word "courage" in the definition you are really talking about something else - an act that you couldn't see yourself doing or that you would be scared to do (though you might do it). That isn't courage in the hero but only the requirement of courage in the mind of the person calling him a hero.
However, that kind-of, sort-of courage sort of thing is not a requirement to be a hero. It may occur in many acts of heroism but that is incidental.
A plague is sweeping the Earth and all people will be dead within 10 days. A scientist comes up with a cure and saves the world. He saves the entire world. Now, you can't get more heroic than that, since there would be no humans without his actions. He saved, literally, EVERYBODY. No courage. No fearlessness. No nothing. He just happened to solve a problem that no one else could and saved the future of Man.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April
you have to have intent to do something dangerous to you and optional to be heroic. that is what makes you a hero. when someone uses the phrase "my hero" they probably more likely mean savior or champion.
what some third party knows or does not know does not make what the hero did heroic or not.
interestingly, it is not likely that most of the stuff superman did is heroic because he is more or less invulnerable. for him running into a burning building or holding a flaming tanker truck up over a line of baby ducks crossing the street is not heroic because there is not risk to him.
the guy saving humanity might be called a hero but it would not be accurate to do so. heroism is not the only meaningful honor.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 02:20 AM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 02:21 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 02:22 AM (MTjB1)
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a : a mythological or legendary figure often of divine descent endowed with great strength or ability
b : an illustrious warrior
c : a person admired for achievements and noble qualities
d : one who shows great courage
Only the *fourth* one says anything about courage. The main thing is the power to save.
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 02:22 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: Maxine Waters Hair at April 19, 2018 02:22 AM (LaaND)
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you can't unload bowling balls with a pitch fork.
#Duh
Posted by: Maxine Waters Hair at April 19, 2018 02:24 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 02:24 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 02:25 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: NCKate at April 19, 2018 02:26 AM (bCtf/)
Posted by: Planned Paretnhood at April 19, 2018 02:26 AM (LaaND)
1
a : a mythological or legendary figure often of divine descent endowed with great strength or ability
b : an illustrious warrior
c : a person admired for achievements and noble qualities
d : one who shows great courage
Only the *fourth* one says anything about courage. The main thing is the power to save.
Posted by: Axeman at Apri
well, only the fourth mentions the word courage, however, it is pretty likely the "a mythological or legendary figure often of divine descent endowed with great strength or ability
b : an illustrious warrior " both demonstrated great courage.
the great strength and ability were usually for some feat of derring do and it is rare to celebrate warriors that are not courageous.
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 02:26 AM (MTjB1)
Mandatory in every comedian's toolboxPosted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 02:27 AM (kUotE)
#Duh
Posted by: Maxine Waters Hair at April 19, 2018 02:24 AM (LaaND)
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Bull. Put the bowling balls and the pitchfork on a pallet and get a fork truck.
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 02:29 AM (JhE5a)
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also takes courage: cowards rarely achieve anything to be admired, nor is cowardice considered noble in sane circles
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 02:30 AM (LaaND)
A Muslim man who lives in our neighborhood doused himself with gasoline and lit himself on fire, so we took up a collection for his family. We have almost 10 gallons already!
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 02:32 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 02:29 AM (JhE5a)
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but if pitch over the fork truck, you have an OSHA incident on your hands.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 02:33 AM (LaaND)
all i know about are fork lifts
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 02:34 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 19, 2018 02:36 AM (d4iVA)
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 02:36 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 19, 2018 02:26 AM (MTjB1)
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Nah, Hellboy is the hero of the movie Hellboy. There was never any threat to him. He's indestructible. But turning Earth into Hell (which is his one purpose) is a betrayal to who he has chosen to think of as his father. "Fulfilling his destiny" simply makes him into a device, a key. He was breaking off his horns and filing them down, because the idea was that the horns indicated him fulfilling his purpose. But the horns grew in an instant, once he started down that path.
What was at stake was whether or not he would choose or simply suffer fate (which would endanger people like Liz). No courage, just grit.
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 02:38 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 02:38 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 02:39 AM (LaaND)
all i know about are fork lifts
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 02:34 AM (LaaND)
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Interchangeable title for people in handling. Actually I think I've heard "fork truck" in warehouses more than "fork lift" because there are actually things that are lifts, that are a completely different things.
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 02:40 AM (JhE5a)
i through out a perfectly cromulent pun, and all i get back is a sensible answer...
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 02:42 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 02:43 AM (JhE5a)
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 02:43 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 02:45 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 02:48 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: Island Girl at April 19, 2018 02:49 AM (FJrl0)
Posted by: Axeman at April 19, 2018 02:53 AM (JhE5a)
Why are there Interstate highways in Hawaii?
Why is there braille on drive-up ATMs?
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 02:19 AM (kUotE)
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1. Not if they are Woke.
2. Sweet, sweet federal highway dollars
3. Because they don't make different user interfaces for the walk up and drive up ATMs. That would cost extra. They make one kind and just plug it in where needed.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 02:54 AM (pvjTE)
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 02:55 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 02:58 AM (pvjTE)
A guy waved at me, came up to me and then said, "Sorry, I thought you were someone else."
I said, "I am."
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 03:02 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 02:58 AM (pvjTE)
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out standing in your field?
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 03:02 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 03:03 AM (LaaND)
http://webstersdictionary1828.com/
The All American Dictionary
-Webster's 1828 Dictionary contains the foundation of America's heritage and principal beliefs. It is contemporary with the American Constitution.
-It is an excellent reference for classical literature, Bible studies, history papers, and the ground work of explanation and reasoning for America's national documents.
-Christian readers will find it rewarding to compare Webster's definitions of such words as: marriage, education, sin, law, faith, and prayer, with those given in any modern dictionary. The difference gives an appreciation of early American values.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 19, 2018 03:03 AM (pvjTE)
I said, "No... YOU have the wrong number."
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 03:04 AM (kUotE)
every time, while i'm hitting the "no thanks" button, i've been saying "no, i'm not donating to Special Olympics... Congress has too much money as it is."
gets a chuckle, more often than not.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 03:06 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 03:06 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 03:08 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 03:11 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 03:14 AM (kUotE)
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somehow, i can't see that uncoordinated buffoon being that good... kinda like when the posed him with a shotgun shooting skeet, and the smoke coming out of the ports was obviously photoshopped in.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 03:20 AM (LaaND)
Last November I was diagnosed with rectal cancer complete with a large evil tumor. A low tumor. Any lower and it would have been skin cancer. I started chemotherapy and radiation in December and that reduced the tumor to a crater but I still needed to get surgery to remove it and the cancerous parts of my colon. I had that surgery three weeks ago and because of the location I also had my anus, rectum, and almost two foot of large intestine removed. Poof. Gone. So now I have an ostomy bag for the remainder of my life. Although technically now cancer free as far as they know I have 6 months of more chemo to look forward to as we nuke it from orbit (just to be sure).
While in the hospital the surgeon also told me I was a diabetic. Suprise! You'd think that the months of weekly labs prior to surgery could have detected that little gem but no I get to find out 5 hours after surgery.
A week after release, that is, two weeks ago I tore some stitches out while gently sitting on a pillow on a cushy chair. I now have a vacuum pump machine attached 24/7 to keep my wounds closed. It makes a terrible noise and is painful but it is keeping me out of the hospital for the time being.
While laying in bed last week (since I can't do much else) Mrs. Feverhead tells me the IRS says we owe $10K on our 2016 taxes since we apparently made 100% profit on stock we sold (hint: we didn't). While talking to Mrs. Feverhead about the IRS issue and the fact that she probably shouldn't have put $0 as the cost basis on the stock sale, she just up and announces that she's done with our marriage and is leaving me. Like that. Out of the blue. Nothing I can do or change to make her stay, she doesn't care about counseling or trying to make it work and that she's hated all 28 years of our marriage. Apparently, while I've had my arsehole removed I am still some sort of huge unreformable arsehole. Within a day she has an apartment rented and moves out with my son. She even took the kitchen table. WTF?
So, I'm now a diabetic invalid with cancer and no asshole or rectum going through a divorce from the wife I have loved for 28 years. My 2018 has really sucked ass.
That's where things stand. It has almost circled so far out the tragedy wing it has become comedy but it is really hard for me to laugh at it. Don't worry about me offing myself. I've come too far for that drama. Since most gun deaths are suicide (a stat misused by the left every day) and I didn't know what I was facing I called my best friend and old army buddy and "lent" him my firearms after I was diagnosed. Since I'm in a recreational use state I then bought a jumbo Bob Marley spliff and put that in the gun safe where my favorite rifle used to sit.
That planning paid off last week.
I have one request of the horde. If you have a religious bent please say a prayer for me. I could really, really use it.
Thanks.
Mr. Feverhead
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 03:21 AM (hUqh+)
Posted by: Surfperch at April 19, 2018 03:26 AM (J7NdS)
Prayers. I hope things turn around for you, Mr. Feverhead.
Posted by: Surfperch at April 19, 2018 03:33 AM (J7NdS)
Posted by: Surfperch at April 19, 2018 03:33 AM (J7NdS)
Thanks - oddly, listening to the Doors helps me sleep and you posted one of my favorites. It's a sign.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 03:35 AM (hUqh+)
as for the gun safe thing, let me guess: your soon to be ex filed a restraining order against you, and they came for your gubs?
what a scrunt.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 03:43 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: eleven at April 19, 2018 03:45 AM (+lOpA)
Posted by: eleven at April 19, 2018 03:47 AM (+lOpA)
and your doctor is an ass for telling you immediately post surgery.
but surgeons tend to be arrogant assholes any way, in my experience.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 03:48 AM (LaaND)
Hold on until things are a just little better and you can start to take control. Rely on your friend.
Talking to us about it is a good step, and I for one am humbled.
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 03:49 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: eleven at April 19, 2018 03:47 AM (+lOpA)
only a day walker would expect an immediate response this late on a weekday ONT
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 03:49 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 03:51 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 03:59 AM (hUqh+)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at April 19, 2018 04:00 AM (nBr1j)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at April 19, 2018 04:00 AM (nBr1j)
Thanks. You guys don't know how good that makes me feel.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 04:01 AM (hUqh+)
Posted by: Johnny at April 19, 2018 04:05 AM (kUotE)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 03:21 AM (hUqh+)
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Praying for you mr feverhead.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 19, 2018 04:07 AM (yL25O)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 19, 2018 04:07 AM (UiRxW)
Prayers up.
Posted by: backbeat baby at April 19, 2018 04:08 AM (w7KSn)
So, have the Semantics stopped?
Mr Feverhead, that is a horrible litany of woe. My thoughts and prayers for you.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 19, 2018 04:08 AM (ycWCI)
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:09 AM (ecMDh)
and your doctor is an ass for telling you immediately post surgery.
but surgeons tend to be arrogant assholes any way, in my experience.
Arrogant yes, but I cut the surgeon some slack since he'd just spent 5 hours rooting around in my innards.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 04:09 AM (hUqh+)
Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 19, 2018 04:10 AM (+F0Wk)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 19, 2018 04:11 AM (ycWCI)
I do not love my job, but I'm 20 years in and it's too late to change. Ah well.
good news is enough hours in the week that it's a four day weekend from here.
Going to Houston to watch my son's robotics team compete in the world finals. woo hoo.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 19, 2018 04:11 AM (yL25O)
And it's all uphill from here. Thanks for the gallbladder update.
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:11 AM (ecMDh)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 04:11 AM (hUqh+)
Posted by: TexasDan at April 19, 2018 04:11 AM (yL25O)
Good luck to him, TD.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 19, 2018 04:12 AM (ycWCI)
I need to get my lower abdomen checked, never had a colonoscopy and should.
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2018 04:12 AM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 19, 2018 04:10 AM (+F0Wk)
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Ug. We're right at this decision point with my wife. Last month she had a gall stone and a kidney stone passing at the same time.
She had gone to help the MIL recovery from mastectomy surgery and ended up in the ER herself.
She hasn't had it out yet but leaning that way.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 19, 2018 04:12 AM (yL25O)
Posted by: TexasDan at April 19, 2018 04:12 AM (yL25O)
The surgery is not a big deal, if they do a laparoscopy. I was put on a drug drip, stone cold out, woke up, done.
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:15 AM (ecMDh)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 19, 2018 04:12 AM (ycWCI)
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Thanks.
They completely washed out in the regular season. Won a lottery slot to the worlds.
So it's been a crazy six weeks as they started over from scratch, which was their only hope. Robot 2.0 is functional as of Monday night and seems to be kicking ass.
We'll see how far Cinderella goes
Posted by: TexasDan at April 19, 2018 04:15 AM (yL25O)
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:15 AM (ecMDh)
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Yeah, it's that we're hearing that the surgery is not always successful in relieving symptoms, and some people have loose stools for the rest of their lives.
OTOH, if she has passed three stones, because that's how many episodes she's had, then those stones are somewhere in her system waiting to cause trouble too.
I say take it out but that's more the engineer in me saying fix it.
She's on the bubble.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 19, 2018 04:17 AM (yL25O)
If two shots of morphine won't help it must be an intense pain indeed.
One of the genius devices I discovered during my hospital stay is the patient-controlled morphine pump. Every 8 minutes you could give yourself a shot of morphine by pushing a button. You can't overdose because you'd pass out first.
I think people are not afraid of the pain they are in but are terrified of the potential pain. The morphine pump is genius how it puts the patient in control of that. A psychological device as much as a physical pain relief device.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 04:18 AM (hUqh+)
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2018 04:21 AM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2018 04:12 AM (aC6Sd)
I waited too long. I recommend folks don't wait but understand why they do. I might still have all my parts if I'd done it before symptoms showed. Or I might not. Who knows?
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 04:22 AM (hUqh+)
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:15 AM (ecMDh)
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Yeah, it's that we're hearing that the surgery is not always successful in relieving symptoms, and some people have loose stools for the rest of their lives.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 19, 2018 04:17 AM (yL25O)
Oh, I did not know that possible outcome. On the flip side, I have a friend who ignored symptoms and her gall bladder exploded (I don't know the medical lingo). Which can't happen if it ain't there!
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:22 AM (ecMDh)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 19, 2018 04:22 AM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Al Gore at April 19, 2018 04:24 AM (L7t0A)
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2018 04:21 AM (aC6Sd)
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what algorithm do you use?
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 04:26 AM (LaaND)
What's the story behind your nic? If you can tell us.
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:27 AM (ecMDh)
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the term you're looking for, but want to avoid, is "ruptured"... it's never a good thing.
see appendix, for example.
Posted by: redc1c4, the ONT Rx Tech at April 19, 2018 04:28 AM (LaaND)
OTOH, if she has passed three stones, because that's how many episodes she's had, then those stones are somewhere in her system waiting to cause trouble too.
I say take it out but that's more the engineer in me saying fix it.
She's on the bubble.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 19, 2018 04:17 AM (yL25O)
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I had laparoscopic surgery, and it was just as m described. Out like a light (I remember being positioned on the surgical bed, but nothing after that), and then just waking up from the anesthesia.
I didn't know you could pass gall stones, though I suppose if they're small enough, they'll fit through the ducts. One of mine, at least was larger than the duct, so wasn't going anywhere. Removing the gall bladder should clear up the problem, as there is no place for the stones to reform.
I did read, too that some people have issues with loose stools. For me, I'd rather that than knowing that screwing up my diet even once would leave me in horrible pain for hours.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 19, 2018 04:28 AM (+F0Wk)
What's the story behind your nic? If you can tell us.
I used to comment here as anonymoose until around 2012 but I had the flu one night, couldn't sleep, and changed it to Mr. Feverhead on a whim because I had a fever. I didn't mean it to be permanent but I'm lazy and anonymoose was kind of silly. Mr. Feverhead stuck.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 04:31 AM (hUqh+)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 04:09 AM (hUqh+)
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i was speaking from years of experience in w*rking with and around them in the field, plus a couple of surgeries myself.
to be honest, it takes a certain level of arrogance to be one, let alone a good one, because, frankly, you have to be cocky to say, "yeah, i can cut into another human's body and do things to it."
the less arrogant become coroners.
Posted by: redc1c4, the ONT Rx Tech at April 19, 2018 04:32 AM (LaaND)
Yeah, I can't imagine the nads it must take to cut into someone the first time.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 04:34 AM (hUqh+)
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the term you're looking for, but want to avoid, is "ruptured"... it's never a good thing.
see appendix, for example.
Posted by: redc1c4, the ONT Rx Tech at April 19, 2018 04:28 AM (LaaND)
Thanks! Another option I had thought of is "busted."
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:35 AM (ecMDh)
What's the story behind your nic? If you can tell us.
I used to comment here as anonymoose until around 2012 but I had the flu one night, couldn't sleep, and changed it to Mr. Feverhead on a whim because I had a fever. I didn't mean it to be permanent but I'm lazy and anonymoose was kind of silly. Mr. Feverhead stuck.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 04:31 AM (hUqh+)
Thanks. I think "Johnny Fever" when I read it.
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:36 AM (ecMDh)
i've had it 4 times, and remember everything about what happened prior to receiving it. only 'scope i slept all the way thorough was at a real hospital, not the VA.
i still woke up earlier than they thought, after getting 50% more than their usual dosage, as i wasn't sedated by the base dose, and then immediately sat up, no dizziness, no nada. the recovery room staff was shocked.
my liver is AWESOME!
Posted by: redc1c4, the ONT Rx Tech at April 19, 2018 04:37 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2018 04:37 AM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:36 AM (ecMDh)
WKRP in Cincinnati. A classic. I should have a better origin story.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 04:38 AM (hUqh+)
Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 19, 2018 04:28 AM (+F0Wk)
That's how my colonoscopy went, too. Yay, drug drips. It's all really a miracle.
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:39 AM (ecMDh)
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:35 AM (ecMDh)
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descriptive, but *not* med speak...
every field has it's own jargon. at least we don't write prescriptions in hieroglyphs any more...
the whole purpose of that practice was to keep info AWAY from the patient. but it caused metric buttloads of errors to, so it started going away in the 90s
Posted by: redc1c4, the ONT Rx Tech at April 19, 2018 04:40 AM (LaaND)
Good night!
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 04:43 AM (hUqh+)
Posted by: Al Gore at April 19, 2018 04:43 AM (L7t0A)
Best wishes Mr Feverhead. i just assumed that it was a TRO, because that's pretty much a boilerplate thing with divorces these days, peaceable history or not.
either way, i'm glad your forethought paid off. look forward to the day when you van get back out to the range and such.
hasta, y'all!
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 04:44 AM (LaaND)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 04:44 AM (hUqh+)
Cowardly Lion: Courage!
What makes a King out of a slave?
Courage!
What makes the flag on the mast to wave?
Courage!
What makes the elephant charge his tusk, in the misty mist or the dusky dusk?
What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage!
What makes the sphinx the seventh wonder?
Courage!
What makes the dawn come up like thunder?
Courage!
What makes the Hottentot so hot?
What puts the "ape" in apricot?
What have they got that I ain't got?
Others: Courage!
Cowardly Lion: Then you can say that again!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2018 04:47 AM (pNxlR)
Prayers for you, Mr. Feverhead
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2018 04:49 AM (pNxlR)
Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at April 19, 2018 04:49 AM (9TR2V)
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2018 04:51 AM (aC6Sd)
744 Best wishes Mr Feverhead. i just assumed that it was a TRO
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 19, 2018 04:44 AM (LaaND)
701 Thanks everyone. No restraining order. I gave my friend my guns to hold back in November as soon as I was diagnosed with cancer since I figured there would be some low points ahead. I just didn't know how low. I've never been abusive or violent to my family so there is no basis for a restraining order and besides I'm pretty much flat on my back for the time being anyway. I just got the internet turned back on since she took that as well.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 19, 2018 03:59 AM (hUqh+)
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:51 AM (ecMDh)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 04:52 AM (WpVNK)
Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at April 19, 2018 04:49 AM (9TR2V)
Pretty good! Hope he sees that.
Posted by: m at April 19, 2018 04:52 AM (ecMDh)
Posted by: Al Gore at April 19, 2018 04:52 AM (L7t0A)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 04:56 AM (WpVNK)
Jews
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 04:57 AM (WpVNK)
Jews
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 04:57 AM (WpVNK)
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Sigh. I suppose that means the Morning Report will be late this morning...
Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 19, 2018 05:00 AM (+F0Wk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 05:01 AM (WpVNK)
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2018 05:02 AM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 19, 2018 05:03 AM (+F0Wk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 05:04 AM (WpVNK)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 05:16 AM (WpVNK)
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2018 05:17 AM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 19, 2018 05:18 AM (+F0Wk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 05:04 AM
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.Sorry no help from me as I haven't been there since 1981.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 19, 2018 05:19 AM (+Dllb)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 05:20 AM (WpVNK)
Posted by: Ironwood at April 19, 2018 05:21 AM (3T/nT)
La Guardia is a hellhole! No chance of flying out of Newark?
I know you hate it, but it can't be worse than LGA!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 19, 2018 05:21 AM (wYseH)
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2018 05:22 AM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2018 05:24 AM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 19, 2018 05:24 AM (pQMtP)
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 19, 2018 05:26 AM (pQMtP)
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2018 05:26 AM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: POTUS 45 at April 19, 2018 05:26 AM (vHiu7)
He ignored me and now has to deal with a much higher tax bracket and the empty life of an early retirement. I pity the fool.
Posted by: Downcast at April 19, 2018 05:28 AM (v2Njf)
Posted by: Caligula at April 19, 2018 05:28 AM (L70NS)
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 19, 2018 05:28 AM (pQMtP)
Posted by: JT at April 19, 2018 05:36 AM (ze/Re)
I picked two good weeks to be out of town.
Posted by: Bruce at April 19, 2018 05:41 AM (BdsCV)
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woof-Woof?
Well, me actually. I'm afraid of everything my own shadow of my own penis my own craving for Starbucks BBC up my bum...
Posted by: Twinkenfueher Hogg at April 19, 2018 05:42 AM (L70NS)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 05:44 AM (n+K65)
Posted by: Twinkenfueher Hogg
Mommys new friend "Uncle Roger"
Posted by: Bruce at April 19, 2018 05:44 AM (BdsCV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 05:45 AM (n+K65)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
AoSHQ Platinum Membership perk?
Posted by: Bruce at April 19, 2018 05:46 AM (BdsCV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 19, 2018 05:47 AM (n+K65)
The Iranian scientists are competing to receive the CherNobel Prize in physics. It'd be funny if they built the plant on a fault line by mistake.
Posted by: Al Gorbachev at April 19, 2018 05:47 AM (L7t0A)
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at April 19, 2018 06:00 AM (g32Cf)
170 Democrats sign resolution calling for Pruitt the Planetkiller to resign.
Posted by: Al Gore at April 19, 2018 06:01 AM (L7t0A)
Posted by: Twinkenfueher Hogg at April 19, 2018 06:03 AM (L70NS)
Posted by: Forgot My Nic at April 19, 2018 06:09 AM (LOgQ4)
Posted by: Skip at April 19, 2018 05:26 AM
#TwoWeeks
Posted by: Forgot My Nic
When setting up Winter on their weather machine. Weather Joos didn't realize that "turn it up to 11" was a joke
Posted by: Bruce at April 19, 2018 06:11 AM (BdsCV)
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 06:12 AM (oMtOd)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 19, 2018 06:17 AM (hyuyC)
I think I can make it now.
Gonna be a bright, bright sunshinny day.
maybe
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - at April 19, 2018 06:17 AM (roQNm)
Posted by: Bruce at April 19, 2018 06:18 AM (BdsCV)
Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 19, 2018 06:18 AM (hyuyC)
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 06:19 AM (oMtOd)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2018 06:21 AM (+BxpP)
Posted by: rickb223
Sorry. No fresh hell. All of it is in the day/week/year old section.
Posted by: Bruce at April 19, 2018 06:22 AM (BdsCV)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 19, 2018 06:23 AM (hyuyC)
George Soros popped my Bunghole Cherry 5 years ago... does he wrote, does he call? No. Turn 14 and it's like you never existed, the bastard Nazi joo...
Posted by: Twinkenfueher Hogg at April 19, 2018 06:24 AM (L70NS)
On the bright side, the Red Sox are the best team in baseball at 15-2, so all is not lost.
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 06:25 AM (oMtOd)
What is it with New York that they elect the biggest Dem a**holes in the country? Not a low bar given the number of Dem a**holes in the country. Remind me to never move there.
Posted by: Ripley at April 19, 2018 06:25 AM (MxEKc)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilence Committee supporter at April 19, 2018 06:26 AM (tU+ul)
Posted by: Al Gore
Want in one hand & shit in the other.
See which one fills up the quickest.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 19, 2018 06:28 AM (+BxpP)
Lack of rain and cold has kept pollen activity low out here. Some of the trees are trying to bud, but yhen a cold blast comes in to discourage them.
And the wheat crop is in poor shape.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 19, 2018 06:28 AM (hyuyC)
Our summer rainstorms usually come with a lot of thunder and lightning and the wind blows the rain onto the porch, so we don't last too long. But when it's a more gentle rain I could sit out there all day.
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 06:29 AM (oMtOd)
Posted by: Deerpy at April 19, 2018 06:29 AM (L70NS)
The cherry trees and forsythia have all bloomed and are losing their petals. My azaleas have little buds - normally they are in full bloom or close to it by now. Dogwoods come a bit later.
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 06:31 AM (oMtOd)
170 Democrats sign resolution calling for Pruitt the Planetkiller to resign.
Posted by: Al Gore
Sounds like he's over the target.
Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2018 06:33 AM (LM5QY)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilence Committee supporter at April 19, 2018 06:33 AM (tU+ul)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilence Committee supporter at April 19, 2018 06:36 AM (tU+ul)
In years past when I had to plan schoolwork for all five kids over the summer, I would often sit out there with my books and my laptop and a pitcher of ice water or lemonade. Until it got too humid or the mosquitoes found me. Usually it was the humidity that would do me in.
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 06:36 AM (oMtOd)
Have a blessed day everyone. May every traffic light turn green as you approach.
Spring is here, it is just disguised.
Yesterday I saw one large male turkey, a large survivor. With his tail feathers out in a full display. The 14 hens around him were all intent on finding food, and ignored hm. But, soon.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 19, 2018 06:37 AM (hyuyC)
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 06:37 AM (oMtOd)
Posted by: Huck Follywood
I had read that he took the Japanese PM to one of the ponds the golf course yesterday. He and Abe tossed in cherry bombs to "feed" the fish. They both laughed their asses off. Then the white van pulled up and blocked the photo
Posted by: Bruce at April 19, 2018 06:39 AM (BdsCV)
Posted by: JT at April 19, 2018 06:39 AM (ze/Re)
Posted by: grammie winger - at April 19, 2018 06:42 AM (lwiT4)
I just rewatched Trump's ad that used Hillary barking in it. Great LOL to begin the day.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2018 06:42 AM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2018 06:42 AM (LM5QY)
Posted by: fluffy at April 19, 2018 06:42 AM (cHbmY)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilence Committee supporter at April 19, 2018 06:42 AM (tU+ul)
Posted by: Ripley at April 19, 2018 06:25 AM
Ahem.
Posted by: California at April 19, 2018 06:44 AM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2018 06:44 AM (pNxlR)
Today is weekly shiv sharpening day for Bluebell. And she has a lot of shivs. Gotta statt early...
Posted by: Deerpy at April 19, 2018 06:44 AM (L70NS)
Jean, I'm in the very NW tip of Fairfax County. It's not freezing now - it's 50 according to my thermometer. But it won't get much higher. The freeze warning is for tomorrow morning.
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 06:45 AM (oMtOd)
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We have some very attractive ice on the trees, unless it melted overnight. Too dark to tell yet.
Posted by: grammie winger - at April 19, 2018 06:45 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilence Committee supporter at April 19, 2018 06:46 AM (tU+ul)
Posted by: grammie winger
A pretty sight when the sun hits it on a December morning...April? Not so much.
Posted by: Bruce at April 19, 2018 06:47 AM (BdsCV)
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 06:47 AM (oMtOd)
Posted by: grammie winger - at April 19, 2018 06:48 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Huck Follywood
Back in the day they could. Or so I've been told
Posted by: Bruce at April 19, 2018 06:48 AM (BdsCV)
LOUIE LOUIE FOADDY-FI!!!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2018 06:49 AM (pNxlR)
They just stun the fish; they recover fairly quickly.
Posted by: JT at April 19, 2018 06:49 AM (ze/Re)
Posted by: grammie winger - at April 19, 2018 06:49 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 19, 2018 06:50 AM (BtQd4)
Posted by: JT
If you scoop them up, filet them, and fry them, they'll die for the most part.
Posted by: Bruce at April 19, 2018 06:50 AM (BdsCV)
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The FBI actually investigated that song. I guess they were dopes back then too.
Posted by: grammie winger - at April 19, 2018 06:50 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 06:52 AM (oMtOd)
I'm in the very NW tip of Fairfax County
As it so happens, Virginia's Supermax Prison is there, too.
Coincidence? I think not!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2018 06:54 AM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Goldilocks at April 19, 2018 06:54 AM (zz1sH)
Don't try that with a feral cat.
Posted by: JT at April 19, 2018 06:54 AM (ze/Re)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilence Committee supporter at April 19, 2018 06:55 AM (tU+ul)
They just stun the fish; they recover fairly quickly.
Unlike Norwegian Blue Parrots, for whom a stunning is a death sentence.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2018 06:56 AM (pNxlR)
Plus, two months and 8 days till Cancun. I've started packing. 4 swimsuits so far.
Posted by: grammie winger - at April 19, 2018 06:57 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 19, 2018 06:57 AM (6t8+a)
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 06:57 AM (oMtOd)
What if ya paint 'em yellow and THEN stun them ?
Posted by: JT at April 19, 2018 06:58 AM (ze/Re)
Posted by: Ripley at April 19, 2018 06:59 AM (MxEKc)
Posted by: JT at April 19, 2018 07:00 AM (ze/Re)
Time to arise, shine, do some laundry and then find a CPR course to take in the next ten days so thatvIbcan pass my wilderness first aid training next weekend. Later, y'all ...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 19, 2018 07:00 AM (pNxlR)
saying on the internet. But they sure want everybody to hear what they
have to say.
Posted by: Ripley at April 19, 2018 06:59 AM (MxEKc)
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What'd you say? I wasn't listening.
Posted by: grammie winger - at April 19, 2018 07:01 AM (lwiT4)
Obvious conclusion --that 'trans' IS the mental health condition-- must not be uttered.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 19, 2018 07:01 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: JT at April 19, 2018 07:02 AM (ze/Re)
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 07:04 AM (oMtOd)
Posted by: JT
Painting them yellow only makes the FABULOUS, not Stunning
Posted by: Bruce at April 19, 2018 07:05 AM (BdsCV)
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 07:04 AM (oMtOd)
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Oh - way ahead of you there, hon. Already spent the tax refund. Rev got a shotgun too, so I am guilt-free.
Posted by: grammie winger - at April 19, 2018 07:05 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: bluebell
Well, I'm in the same county as you but I doubt we'll get a freeze in my part of Fairfax Co. It will be cold for late April but no freeze. Live near the Beltway, less than a mile from the Potomac.
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 19, 2018 07:08 AM (pQMtP)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 19, 2018 07:09 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: grammie winger - at April 19, 2018 07:05 AM (lwiT4)
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Good for you! We owed this year, so all I've bought lately is a new hanging shower caddy and a summer bathrobe. I hope someday it will be warm enough that I can wear it.
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 07:10 AM (oMtOd)
Posted by: bluebell at April 19, 2018 07:10 AM (oMtOd)
Posted by: JT at April 19, 2018 07:12 AM (ze/Re)
Posted by: JT at April 19, 2018 07:15 AM (ze/Re)
unbelievable. after a year of saying trump is putin's puppet, now trump's sanctions are costing him support of his party.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 19, 2018 07:16 AM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 19, 2018 07:19 AM (Pg+x7)
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