Weekend Gun Thread

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We need more of this.


We are taught that sports are good for youth. Teamwork, dedication, sportsmanship are just some of the topics taught. Sure there is Friday night football and Saturday night basketball. But shooting teams take a back seat. Team shooting teaches discipline not violence.

However, allow me to just point out what most of you already know: shooting does require a lot of time and discipline to master. Yeah, you can learn the mechanics of it pretty quickly, but it takes a lot of work to become really good at it, and then that skill has to be maintained as shooting is a perishable skill. These kids work as hard as any other athlete. Their work is just different.

Further, let’s also note that these are usually not the kids you have to worry about. Yes, much has been made of the Parkland killer being part of his school’s rifle team, but he’s the exception, not the rule. Also, had the school and police done their job, he would likely have been barred from participating anyway.


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Shotguns are fun. And the Keltec KSG-25 looks like a hoot.

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A Moron by the name of Greg contacted me and submitted the following photos and this explanation.

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Some of our High School students that are members of their School Trapshooting league practicing their 2nd amendment rights and learning how to properly handle firearms.

Oh, and after asking the girls that were shooting, ( no, I didn’t ask the boys..) none of the girls shooting are interested in dating pajama boy Twerpenfuhrer David “no chin” Hogg.

It was a tad crisp that afternoon - 15 above and a 15 mph breeze but the kids didn’t mind.

I sure wish We could have had trap in high school too. But I was lucky enough to grow up in a pro hunting/2nd Amendment environment in ND so I’m thankful for that.

The participating schools in western ND are planning a tournament in June at our club which should be a couple hundred kids anyway. I’m sure it’s a “go” and I’ll send in some pictures from it.

The North Dakota state HS tournament is also in June and I’m not sure how many will make it to the state shoot, but there are over 1400 kids signed up this spring across the state to shoot.

Greg


We need to get more kids into the great outdoors.


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...Shot for the first time since the war on Saturday.

Hi I'm "Defenestratus" on AoSHQ. I post from time to time but mostly i'm a lurker. I figured I'd write in about my grandfather's service 1911 from WW2 that I just had the honor of inheriting.

Back in February, my Grandfather turned 95 years old. As is the case with men of his age, he's starting to lose control of his faculties, and the ravages of Alzheimer's loosen his grip on reality a bit more every day. Even though physically he's solid as a rock, enduring three open-skull brain surgeries in the space of a year, Pops decided it was time to pass it down to me.

My Grandfather served in WW2 in the Northern Africa and Italian front. He was a Browning .50cal gunner in the 6th Armored Infantry, 1st Armored division. His company was one that helped break the stalemate at Anzio.

It may just be my love of my grandfather talking, but he's a genuine American Badass. During the war, he slept in piles of horse dung to stay warm. He spent half a day buried underneath the shelled rubble of a house he was using as a machine gunner's nest during the battle for Monte Cassino. He decked a superior officer after he woke up from surgery because the jackass took his ice cream from him. He probably killed dozens of Nazis (Real ones, not like the ones we have today who live in their mothers' basements and post on internet forums all day) but - being a machine gunner, he said all of those rounds "were to whom it may concern" - the only one he *knows* he killed was with this 1911.

After the battle of Anzio, while his company was on route to Rome, his unit encountered a German AA gun on a small ridge across a field. When Pops' unit saw the Germans, the Germans saw them. The men of my grandfathers squad charged the emplacement as the Germans were turning the gun on them.... as they closed on the position, the AA gun opened up. My Pops' ammo carrier was decapitated - Pops says he still has nightmares to this day - remembering him still running for 20 or so feet afterwards. Once they reached the emplacement, the Nazis started dropping "potato mashers" on my Pops' squad - our boys returning the favor... after a moment of calm... with his Browning worthless since its ammo was laying in a field somewhere, Pops pulled out his 1911. As he went around the emplacement the Germans were running away, and as he was about to start firing, the officer or squad leader jumped down from the ledge and Pops shot him. Bullet hit him in the back of the head - and I can tell, hearing Pops tell the story that he still feels guilt over it. Said the kid looked like he was 19, and had a soul book in his jacket - but also a pistol in his hand.

About a month ago, after talking it through with Pops, he agreed to let me have the 1911 so I can display it, along with his bronze star in my office. I ended up driving through New Jersey, New York, Connecticut and Massachusetts with this thing locked up in the back of my car - if I had gotten caught in any one of them with this family heirloom - nigh the reason I'm on this earth today, I would be writing this rather lengthy email from jail.

This past Saturday I had it looked at by a professional and after his seal of approval that it was safe - I couldn't help but put some rounds through it. It had not being shot since the war, and the mags still contained the ammo he was issued during the occupation (I used new cartridges). The thing shot like a dream. It's an original 1911 made in the spring of 1918 and will be a treasured item in my family for generations.


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Cobalt Kinetics Introduces scary looking pew-pew California compliant rifle.

Though the rifles sport a California approved design, Cobalt Kinetics says the series is much more than a state compliant long gun. Cobalt engineers aimed to make what the company calls a “more traditionally proportioned rifle.” The rifles’ stock geometry is closer to that of traditional hunting rifles but remains fully adjustable for length of pull and drop at the buttplate. The grip’s shape and angle is created to be both comfortable and place the hand slightly above and behind the trigger.


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Women's studies. Queer studies. No future in those fields. Want a good job? Go into the firearms industry.

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A couple of weeks ago we had an introductory article about handgun caliber size chart. This week, Rifle caliber guide.

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Spare .38 Special, police silhouette targets and loose change always appreciated here at petmorons at gmail.

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1 pew pew pew

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2018 07:25 PM (F5+ro)

2 top 87 in the gun thread?!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2018 07:25 PM (F5+ro)

3 Wow. I'll summon the Horde.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 15, 2018 07:26 PM (F5+ro)

4 ain't that cute. yes, we need more of that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2018 07:26 PM (mpXpK)

5 You delete this thread right now... or you will face my wrath.

Posted by: David Hogg at April 15, 2018 07:28 PM (/qEW2)

6 That Guns for Teachers poster is very funny. I wonder if I'll lose my job if I take to to school tomorrow.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 15, 2018 07:28 PM (hyuyC)

7 BBL. Wife has dinner ready.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 15, 2018 07:29 PM (hyuyC)

8 330 AWWW FUCK R. Lee Armey Passed away
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Lee_Ermey
Posted by: DeploraBOT at April 15, 2018 07:01 PM (y3aQB)

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 15, 2018 07:31 PM (hyuyC)

9 Great story about your grandfather, Defenestratus. That was a tough generation.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 15, 2018 07:31 PM (qJtVm)

10 Top 20!

Well that's all I got. C'ya!

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2018 07:31 PM (V2Yro)

11 Hi I'm "Defenestratus" on AoSHQ. I post from time to time but mostly i'm a lurker. I figured I'd write in about my grandfather's service 1911 from WW2 that I just had the honor of inheriting.


Read yours & his story. Congratulations!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 15, 2018 07:32 PM (tu/2g)

12 RIP R. Lee Ermey

Posted by: Reggie1971 at April 15, 2018 07:32 PM (0LDaU)

13 Lee Armey Passed away

Short dicking every Angel in Heaven.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 15, 2018 07:32 PM (yQpMk)

14 Was looking forward to seeing Gunny again at the Glock shop at NRA convention. Dang.

Posted by: Eromero at April 15, 2018 07:33 PM (zLDYs)

15 I wonder if my liberal douche of a DIL would "like" that poster of approved firearms for teachers if I posted it on Facebook.




Posted by: ALH at April 15, 2018 07:34 PM (YYn2L)

16 The rifle looks interesting and I would have liked to read about it, but going through that link got one of those "send us your information" pages and that is always a NO.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at April 15, 2018 07:36 PM (0QYMt)

17 9 Great story about your grandfather, Defenestratus. That was a tough generation.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 15, 2018 07:31 PM (qJtVm)

He grew up in Brooklyn eating knuckle sandwiches every day. He'd get in fights everyday in school as a son of Polish immigrants living amongst the Irish --and if his clothes were torn, his step father would give him another beating. He calls NFL players pussies because they have face masks. "Back when I played, you didn't have anything covering your face" he'd say... ha.

They don't make em like Pops anymore.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 15, 2018 07:36 PM (yG6Vk)

18 I just wish I had some good place to go shoot. The shooting range I used to go to when I went down to GA has closed up. The last time I went we shot in my brother's back yard out in the county but it made me nervous because we didn't have any kind of a bullet stop.


And there is no good place here in SC that I know of.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2018 07:36 PM (mpXpK)

19 M&K Shield 2.0....discuss...

Posted by: lin-duh at April 15, 2018 07:37 PM (kufk0)

20 Nice 1911 and God Bless your Dad Defenestratus.

A man among men.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 15, 2018 07:38 PM (EoRCO)

21 And there is no good place here in SC that I know of.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2018 07:36 PM (mpXpK)
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WeaselAcres isn't that far away!

Posted by: Weasel at April 15, 2018 07:38 PM (MVjcR)

22

GREENWOOD, Ind.-- A fight at a Sikh temple in Greenwood involved a dagger, sharp objects and pepper spray. Police said several people were hurt, but did not specify how many.

The fight was Sunday afternoon at the temple on Graham Rd., and apparently took place during elections.

None of the people who were hurt had a life-threatening injuries. But, police said ambulances were called from surrounding counties to help carry the people who were hurt to the hospital.

WRTV6 reported no one had been charged Sunday afternoon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 15, 2018 07:39 PM (IqV8l)

23 21 WeaselAcres isn't that far away!

Posted by: Weasel at April 15, 2018 07:38 PM (MVjcR)

What State?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2018 07:39 PM (mpXpK)

24 Saw some of the Shot Show in Vegas on TV on Shooting USA on the Outdoor Channel. I put it on my bucket list.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 15, 2018 07:39 PM (s9DTK)

25 The other day a friend gave me a handfull of 8mm Mauser cartridges with wooden bullets. He said he had 20k of them. They look like this:

https://tinyurl.com/ybadnsdy

Posted by: f'd at April 15, 2018 07:39 PM (UdKB7)

26 There are several places with 50 or 60 miles but they are all shooting clubs that you have to join and pay dues for.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2018 07:40 PM (mpXpK)

27
What State?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2018 07:39 PM (mpXpK)
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Central Virginia

Posted by: Weasel at April 15, 2018 07:40 PM (MVjcR)

28 25. Grenade launching rounds?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 15, 2018 07:40 PM (fA1SL)

29 Ooh, gun thread!
Sorry to hear about the Gunny. He had a good run and did a lot of good in his life.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 15, 2018 07:40 PM (xJa6I)

30 27 Central Virginia

Posted by: Weasel at April 15, 2018 07:40 PM (MVjcR)

LOL, 200 miles away.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2018 07:41 PM (mpXpK)

31 M&P not K...sheesh. Let's try again...

M&P Shield 2.0 ... discuss...

Posted by: lin-duh at April 15, 2018 07:41 PM (kufk0)

32 'Grenade launching rounds?'

He said they were training rounds.

Posted by: f'd at April 15, 2018 07:41 PM (UdKB7)

33 25. Or maybe practice rounds. Odd find, and so many of 'em.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 15, 2018 07:42 PM (fA1SL)

34 I like having a gun shop on the block behind my house. I do what I can to support local small business.

Gotta come up with a better organization system for my ammo, though.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 15, 2018 07:42 PM (jn7FC)

35 Grenade launching rounds?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine


Possibly training.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 15, 2018 07:42 PM (tu/2g)

36 9 Great story about your grandfather, Defenestratus. That was a tough generation.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 15, 2018 07:31 PM (qJtVm)
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Seconded!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 15, 2018 07:42 PM (0jtPF)

37 LOL, 200 miles away.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2018 07:41 PM (mpXpK)
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Only 2 hours if you drive 100 mph!

Posted by: Weasel at April 15, 2018 07:43 PM (MVjcR)

38 37. Don't know how it is in the States, but here in Texas, 200 miles is just about the driving limit for a barbecue day-trip.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine at April 15, 2018 07:44 PM (fA1SL)

39 34 I like having a gun shop on the block behind my house. I do what I can to support local small business.

Gotta come up with a better organization system for my ammo, though.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo


By the gun shop.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 15, 2018 07:44 PM (tu/2g)

40 Bottom weapon looks like a Sten gun gone space age

Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2018 07:44 PM (aC6Sd)

41 Buy

Posted by: rickb223 at April 15, 2018 07:44 PM (tu/2g)

42 So, mostly good news on the gun front.

I traded in my Tanfoglio Witness 45. I lost money on the deal. BUT! I now own a nice, used CZ97 in 45. The trigger on this baby is as crisp as the lettuce on a MLT.

I will be taking it to the range next Saturday and will let you know how it shoots.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 15, 2018 07:44 PM (xJa6I)

43 GREENWOOD, Ind.-- A fight at a Sikh temple in Greenwood involved a dagger, sharp objects and pepper spray. Police said several people were hurt, but did not specify how many.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 15, 2018 07:39 PM (IqV8l)


In fairness, afternoon tea at a Sikh temple involves a dagger. Probably more than one.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 07:45 PM (y87Qq)

44 What a great inheritance !

Grammy Eez had a 1911, I think it came back from France with her after WW I, where she nursed in an Evac hospital. Don't know what ever became of it, though.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at April 15, 2018 07:45 PM (Mbmmf)

45 Don't know how it is in the States, but here in Texas, 200 miles is just about the driving limit for a barbecue day-trip.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine


Drove from Dallas to Houston for a 26 hour paintball scenario game. Now driving home.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 15, 2018 07:46 PM (tu/2g)

46 Vic, my sister in Lexington County can shoot a deer off her back porch. With a 30-06. Seriously. I and Mrs. E sold our last property in S.C. some time back or I would gladly let you use my stand in the middle of 75 acres.

Posted by: Eromero at April 15, 2018 07:46 PM (zLDYs)

47 The guy has two MG-42s. He said they just explode in a puff of dust and won't cycle the guns. Probably ok for training with a Mauser.

I did a little research and I found that wooden bullets were used for training in a variety of guns. Some even had an attachment to go on the end of the barrel to shred the rounds when they come out.

Posted by: f'd at April 15, 2018 07:47 PM (UdKB7)

48 Be vewy, vewy quiet, I hunting wabbits.


Posted by: Elmer Fudd at April 15, 2018 07:47 PM (AC/qM)

49 GREENWOOD, Ind.-- A fight at a Sikh temple in Greenwood involved a dagger, sharp objects and pepper spray. Police said several people were hurt, but did not specify how many.
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Isn't that where Peaches lives?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2018 07:47 PM (5OO3x)

50
The other day a friend gave me a handfull of 8mm Mauser cartridges with wooden bullets. He said he had 20k of them. They look like this:

https://tinyurl.com/ybadnsdy
Posted by: f'd


Vampire hunter

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 15, 2018 07:49 PM (IqV8l)

51 Don't know how it is in the States, but here in Texas, 200 miles is just about the driving limit for a barbecue day-trip.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
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*fist bump*
I Drive up to Ben Had's for the meet-up...almost 200 miles...to go shoot.

Posted by: lin-duh at April 15, 2018 07:49 PM (kufk0)

52 The other day a friend gave me a handfull of 8mm Mauser cartridges with wooden bullets. He said he had 20k of them. They look like this:

https://tinyurl.com/ybadnsdy
Posted by: f'd

Vampire hunter
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


I'll bet his friend is named Van Helsing.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 15, 2018 07:51 PM (tu/2g)

53 AZ woman shoots hatchet wielding man (he lived) :

https://tinyurl.com/ycurvk29

OK Senate approves bill allowing arms in places of worship:

https://tinyurl.com/y7xm36sy

NC man holds burglar at his home. using a .22 bolt action rifle, until police arrive:

https://tinyurl.com/y8sdz44o

All stories via Weasel Zippers in the last 24 hours.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 15, 2018 07:51 PM (0ogQG)

54 He grew up in Brooklyn eating knuckle sandwiches
every day. He'd get in fights everyday in school as a son of Polish
immigrants living amongst the Irish --and if his clothes were torn, his
step father would give him another beating. He calls NFL players
pussies because they have face masks. "Back when I played, you didn't
have anything covering your face" he'd say... ha.



They don't make em like Pops anymore.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 15, 2018 07:36 PM (yG6Vk)
They certainly don't make Brooklynites like that any more. When I visited Brooklyn back in the '80's there were still plenty of Brooklyn old timers around. Now it sounds like it's become Soy Boy Central.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at April 15, 2018 07:52 PM (H80UQ)

55 51 Don't know how it is in the States, but here in Texas, 200 miles is just about the driving limit for a barbecue day-trip.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
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*fist bump*
I Drive up to Ben Had's for the meet-up...almost 200 miles...to go shoot.
Posted by: lin-duh at April 15, 2018 07:49 PM (kufk0)
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I drove from Dallas!

Posted by: Weasel at April 15, 2018 07:52 PM (MVjcR)

56 The Bronx is still The Bronx, just with less murders.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 15, 2018 07:53 PM (pV/54)

57 The trigger on this baby is as crisp as the lettuce on a MLT.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 15, 2018 07:44 PM (xJa6I)

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They're so perky. I love that.

Posted by: Baghdad Bob at April 15, 2018 07:53 PM (yL25O)

58 Playing off CBD's earlier post, guns are another thing I've changed my mind on. I used to be anti gun but I've learned things, such as how many muggings/robberies/home invasions can be foiled by guns or just the brandishing of guns. I've seen through the idiot trick of trying to deprive law abiding citizens of a right by referring to criminal actions. And yes, the way liberal administrations act is so creepy it means that the Founder's concerns are still valid, and people ought to be armed.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2018 07:54 PM (/qEW2)

59 I changed my mind from being Anti-Trump, to Trump-neutral to being Pro-Trump.

I do think a lot, believe it or not. There are some bedrock things I won't change my mind on but if I'm wrong about something and it's proven to me, I'm flexible.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 15, 2018 07:56 PM (xJa6I)

60 57 The trigger on this baby is as crisp as the lettuce on a MLT.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 15, 2018 07:44 PM (xJa6I)

...

They're so perky. I love that.
Posted by: Baghdad Bob at April 15, 2018 07:53 PM (yL25O)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 15, 2018 07:57 PM (xJa6I)

61 Guns double-plus ungood, m'kay?

Posted by: D. Feinswine at April 15, 2018 07:58 PM (DMUuz)

62 My granddad had a mauser, which he sporterized in 257 Roberts.

I got the shell as a kid when he took either a deer or an elk with it, probably an elk. Then a few years ago my folks brought a bunch of my old crap when they visited, and lo and behold here is this old cartridge and I'm now on a mission to find out what and where the gun is that it came from.

Turns out a cousin has it, at his cabin far north of MN, plans to go wolf hunting with it, and certainly never to share it.

So I have 257 Roberts on my list as a someday gun to get just to remember my granddad.

Glad you got the 1911, Defenestratus.

Posted by: Baghdad Bob at April 15, 2018 07:58 PM (yL25O)

63 The Bronx is still The Bronx, just with less murders.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 15, 2018 07:53 PM (pV/54)

Signor Roberto is still hiding out in The Bronx.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 15, 2018 07:58 PM (EoRCO)

64 And off with Iraqi spokesman sock.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 15, 2018 07:59 PM (yL25O)

65 Playing off CBD's earlier post, guns are another thing I've changed my mind on.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2018 07:54 PM (/qEW2)


Do you own any, or are you interested in buying any? ISTR that you live in NYC but I could be mistaken.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 07:59 PM (y87Qq)

66 Both my parents are from the Bronx.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 15, 2018 08:00 PM (2DOZq)

67 As I announced Thursday night I took multiple felony complaints about gun controlling bigots ( and that is exactly what they are - as I explained in the complaints ) and submitted them to the local FBI office. I got a positive reception from the agent who read my 4 page letter explaining my complaints. ( He quoted his oath to preserve and protect the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic ). He said that he would be happy to submit my complaints to the U.S. Attorney's office with a cover letter. And that frankly I had done most of their work for them.

He said they had received several complaints - but that mostly they were just emotional screeds and that mine got the laws right. There were some observations in my complaint that he hadn't seen before, and that he liked. He also gave me some very good suggestions on how to pour some political oil under the feet of the U.S. Attorneys to get them moving on the complaints. He cautioned me that the U.S Attorneys are where my complaints might meet the most problems - although he said the local group was pretty good.

Posted by: An Observation at April 15, 2018 08:01 PM (R/1/i)

68 That's too bad about R. Lee Ermey. I always liked his work.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 15, 2018 08:03 PM (l9m7l)

69
So, that prostitute and her whore lawyer say they'll be attending Michael Cohen's hearing and promise it could "very interesting."

How so? Is the prostitute gonna flash the courtroom with her implants?

Do you know why no one gives a shit about the prostitute's story? Because it's utterly POINTLESS? (Pun(s) intended, I guess).

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2018 08:03 PM (9ekXs)

70 Thank you for the story about your Grandfather, God bless him and I'm grateful for his service.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 15, 2018 08:04 PM (2DYau)

71
speaking of guns...

I just bought a "snow shovel" from ebay for next Winter. I went cordless.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2018 08:05 PM (9ekXs)

72 Observation,
Thanks for fighting the good fight!

Posted by: lin-duh at April 15, 2018 08:05 PM (kufk0)

73 No one asks the obvious question of who's paying Stormy and her lawyer.

Just like no one asks Comey how his FBI didn't just turn a blind a eye to Hillary's people destroying evidence, they actually destroyed computer devices for them.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 15, 2018 08:06 PM (pV/54)

74 Was looking up R Lee Ermey, he was in probably 30 - 50 movies. I knew he was in other than war movies but didn't know as many as he was. Watched Firebase Gloria not long ago.

Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2018 08:06 PM (aC6Sd)

75
R Lee Ermey is mort?

That's sad. He was not a cuck. Not a cuck, at all.
Only 74.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2018 08:06 PM (9ekXs)

76 Posted by: An Observation


Good job!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 15, 2018 08:07 PM (tu/2g)

77
No one asks the obvious question of who's paying Stormy and her lawyer.


Just like how the Fake News isn't curious at all to who is really pulling the strings of the lakeland school brats and organizing all these stupid walkouts.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2018 08:08 PM (9ekXs)

78 An Observation

Thank you. Any hint on how to motivate US Attorneys you want to share?

Good luck. We're all counting on you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 15, 2018 08:08 PM (hyuyC)

79 I am also sending follow up letters to the liberal newspapers to whom I have sent my editorial, and who didn't print it. Here is the text of the letter to the Washington Post:

To: The Editors of Washington Post



Sirs,

Having read the OpEd I submitted to your paper in April 2018 (copy enclosed) the editors are aware of its contents.


As I demonstrated in that editorial it is NOT protected free speech to
conspire with others to oppress the second amendment rights of anyone -
it is a major federal felony.

It is also not allowed under first
amendment freedom of the press provisions - for the Post, or any of its
employees, to conspire with anyone, including members of any JournoList
style cabal, to oppress the second amendment rights of anyone either.


It is in the best interest of the Post to cease and desist from anti
second amendment conspiratorial behavior. Failing to do so opens the
Post up to federal civil lawsuits as well as criminal prosecution
against which the Post, and its employees, would have not even a single
legal leg on which to stand.


The Post has been warned of the consequences of its behavior.


Sincerely,


Posted by: An Observation at April 15, 2018 08:08 PM (R/1/i)

80 Both my parents are from the Bronx.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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I mentioned this place the other night, not what I expect to find in the Bronx. I bought a used book that had been surplused from their library, and was curious about the place, so, looked it up.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8mhqf47

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2018 08:09 PM (5OO3x)

81 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2018 07:54 PM (/qEW2)

I'm glad you saw the light.

I've never been anti gun. I think it probably matters where you grow up and if your father or grandfather hunt.

It's funny to me that everyone thinks Californa is a backwards leftist state but my area is far from it. Cowboys, rodeos, hunting and riding are a way of life out here.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 15, 2018 08:09 PM (2DYau)

82
R Lee Ermey

"This is my gun..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCaf7YUmQxA

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2018 08:09 PM (9ekXs)

83 back from running an errand... and y'all start without me?

bastages!

Posted by: Paolo at April 15, 2018 08:09 PM (kLwt5)

84 **lines walls of igloo with tinfoil**

R. Lee Ermey and Art Bell...

... that sounds awfully suspicious.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at April 15, 2018 08:10 PM (J/N/x)

85 I ended up driving through New Jersey, New York, Connecticut and Massachusetts with this thing locked up in the back of my car - if I had gotten caught in any one of them with this family heirloom - nigh the reason I'm on this earth today, I would be writing this rather lengthy email from jail.


It's almost a tangent to talk about this, because that was a lovely story about your Pop.

The ex-wife texted me the other day asking whether she needed a permit to have a BB gun in her house or to transport one. I said no and no. She said a friend of hers' kid got busted for a traffic violation and had his car searched and now he's charged with felony possession.

So I looked up the laws. It turns out that a BB gun is a "dangerous weapon" in Connecticut. The kid is actually in criminal danger. She's worried that one of our idiot kids will take the BB gun down to the abandoned highway with one of his idiot friends. It's a sound worry. They're smart kids, but smart kids are idiots when they're in the spirit.

I went and retrieved the BB gun. The whole 2nd Amendment thing and the Heller decision really haven't filtered down to the Northeast states yet.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 15, 2018 08:10 PM (fuK7c)

86 ermey was funny as hell in saving silverman. stupid movie, but he was funny.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 15, 2018 08:10 PM (KP5rU)

87

former 'menter and nevertrumper Ynot mentioned she saw R Lee in a restaurant and he was very gracious when she recognized him.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2018 08:12 PM (9ekXs)

88
It's weird I remember that...

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2018 08:12 PM (9ekXs)

89 25 The other day a friend gave me a handfull of 8mm Mauser cartridges with wooden bullets. He said he had 20k of them. They look like this:

https://tinyurl.com/ybadnsdy
Posted by: f'd at April 15, 2018 07:39 PM (UdKB7)

How cool!
I see a lot of necklaces made out of the shells. I'm friends with a famous person's sister that all of you would know and she has a necklace with a casing and a brothel token. I see lots of girls wearing necklaces with bullets on them around here.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 15, 2018 08:15 PM (2DYau)

90 Lee Ermey film career was made by Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket, where he started as an advisor and talked his way into the role of the Gunny Sgt. To win the role Ermey created an audition reel where he did an extemporaneous in-character rant for fifteen minutes while the crew pelted him with oranges and tennis balls.

A star was born!

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 15, 2018 08:15 PM (pV/54)

91 I went and retrieved the BB gun. The whole 2nd Amendment thing and the Heller decision really haven't filtered down to the Northeast states yet.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 15, 2018 08:10 PM (fuK7c)

That is just crazy, I'm really shocked, a B.B. gun?

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 15, 2018 08:16 PM (2DYau)

92
I also bought a cordless blower/vac. Stupid punk leaves from all over the neighborhood like to congregate and loiter up against my garage doors.

When I open the doors, they rush in. Punks.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at April 15, 2018 08:17 PM (9ekXs)

93 Wonder if the CA-compliant rifle can be OK in Boulder, CO.

That guy's op-ed in the Denver Post calling the proposed new law there, calling it out as bigoted and hateful, was spot-on.

It is precisely those words we 2A backers should be using, publically and often, when going up against gun grabbers.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 15, 2018 08:19 PM (4ZE6o)

94
remember LOITERING?

No Loitering was how store owners used to tell us kids to get off their lawns, so to speak.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at April 15, 2018 08:19 PM (9ekXs)

95 Current client's project IT manager (and the closest thing I have at the moment to a direct supervisor) coaches the school trap team and invited me along to the range. I haven't shot clays since I got the shotgun merit badge at Camp Owasippe way back before the war, and I don't know much about it. So, I did a little research. Surprise! This is Not A Cheap Hobby.

What exactly makes a good sporting over/under? If he has a Guerini Summit that costs half as much as my car, just what makes it worth $5,000 more than, say, a CZ Redhead Premier?

Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 08:19 PM (y87Qq)

96 If the Army and the Navy
Ever look on Heaven's scenes;
They will find the streets are guarded
By United States Marines.


R. I. P. Gunney.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 15, 2018 08:19 PM (tu/2g)

97 Gotta come up with a better organization system for my ammo, though.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 15, 2018 07:42 PM (jn7FC)
---
we have a pallet rack that needs to go inside the garage...and 10 pallets for it.

just need to finish the BBQ Pagoda, so i can get the frig, freezer and NG grill out of the drive way, so i can clear enough space inside the garage to set it up.

last time i moved the ammo pallet, the 4000# pallet jack didn't really want to lift it. and it's gotten heavier since then.

Posted by: Paolo at April 15, 2018 08:20 PM (kLwt5)

98 My Navy background hurt me on guns. My flavor of service were the worst shots in the military. Because if someone got close enough to shoot with our two 5"/54 caliber Mark 45 Mod 0 guns, they were too close.

I did not get any self defense weapon with a range longer than a knife until 2007. And I was right to get them. Obama was the best gun salesman ever.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 15, 2018 08:21 PM (hyuyC)

99 Just wanted to share this tweet from James Woods which features a pretty girl with a gun and some facts about Democrat run cities. If it doesn't come through because I was a posting doofus, go to James Woods' twitter feed and scroll down to see the picture:

https://tinyurl.com/yay5dn96

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2018 08:22 PM (tpDAe)

100 last time i moved the ammo pallet, the 4000# pallet jack didn't really want to lift it. and it's gotten heavier since then.
Posted by: Paolo at April 15, 2018 08:20 PM (kLwt5)


You have quite the stockpile if the pallet jack can't lift it, way to go.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 15, 2018 08:22 PM (2DYau)

101 I know the Maritime College well, right below the Throggs Neck Bridge.

A unknown jewel is the Hall of Fame of Great Americans on the campus of Bronx Community College, which used to be NYU North,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Hall_of_Fame_for_Great_Americans

Of course there's The Bronx Zoo, best urban zoo in the world, and the NY Botanical Gardens.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 15, 2018 08:22 PM (pV/54)

102 95 Current client's project IT manager (and the closest thing I have at the moment to a direct supervisor) coaches the school trap team and invited me along to the range. I haven't shot clays since I got the shotgun merit badge at Camp Owasippe way back before the war, and I don't know much about it. So, I did a little research. Surprise! This is Not A Cheap Hobby.

What exactly makes a good sporting over/under? If he has a Guerini Summit that costs half as much as my car, just what makes it worth $5,000 more than, say, a CZ Redhead Premier?
Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 08:19 PM (y87Qq)

If you take up trap, learn to reload.

You can use just about any shotgun for trap. Hell I used an old Model 12. It's the shooter not the gun. But, if you want a decent O/U pick up a used one.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2018 08:22 PM (3Pma+)

103 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2018 08:09 PM (5OO3x)

Heh. My brother graduated from there.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 15, 2018 08:25 PM (2DOZq)

104 First rifle I ever shot was a Winchester .22 pump action. An old one. My best friend's dad was a collector. He loved the old stuff. I once shot a .45-70, with the octagonal barrel. I missed the can I was aiming at, but took down the spruce limb it was sitting on.

Good times.

Too bad I have nothing in the way of armaments now.

*discreet cough*

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at April 15, 2018 08:25 PM (Mkuv2)

105 98
My Navy background hurt me on guns. My flavor of service were the worst
shots in the military. Because if someone got close enough to shoot
with our two 5"/54 caliber Mark 45 Mod 0 guns, they were too close.



I did not get any self defense weapon with a range longer than a
knife until 2007. And I was right to get them. Obama was the best gun
salesman ever.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 15, 2018 08:21 PM (hyuyC)

When I went to Navy Bootcamp in Orlando they didn't even have a rifle range. All we did was dry fire our issue 03-A3's with leaded barrels.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2018 08:26 PM (mpXpK)

106 Defenestratus, your story gives me chills. How very cool that you have that, and were able to talk to your grandfather and get the story behind it. I just love how he figured his machine gun rounds were addressed, "To Whom it May Concern."

A great story about a great American. Thank you very much for sharing it with us.

Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at April 15, 2018 08:26 PM (C1NyB)

107 Thank you. Any hint on how to motivate US Attorneys you want to share?


What he suggested is to go to Ted Cruz's office here in Houston and give them a copy of my complaint - asking if they had any suggestions or improvements, and also requesting that - if the Senator sees value in it - that he give a heads up with the US Attorney's with something like "This guy seems to have a pretty important case here - I'm sure you're giving it your full attention." U.S. Attorneys don't like getting those kind of personal attention calls from Senators or Representatives.

His first suggestion is contact your Congressman - but mine is a Democrat.

Posted by: An Observation at April 15, 2018 08:27 PM (R/1/i)

108 Question for the Horde: I ordered some steel gong targets for the range at the farm. The "recommended hardware" says to use carriage bolts to secure them, but I plan on suspending them from a frame on chains and S hooks. Am I missing something.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at April 15, 2018 08:28 PM (lApJ5)

109 An Observation

Thanks!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 15, 2018 08:30 PM (hyuyC)

110 Well it's past my bedtime. Time to do disk cleanup and shut down for the night.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 15, 2018 08:30 PM (mpXpK)

111 Good night Vic. Sweet dreams.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 15, 2018 08:31 PM (hyuyC)

112 Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at April 15, 2018 08:28 PM (lApJ5)

Danger of hitting frame and chains and you also limit your shots on target unless you don't mind shooting at a moving one.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 15, 2018 08:31 PM (2DOZq)

113 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2018 08:22 PM (tpDAe)

I see the cities on the list have changed a little this year. One complaint I have is they state that all five of those cities have strict gun control laws. Detroit as well as the whole state of Michigan does not have strict gun control. In fact their gun laws are quite liberal (in the actual sense of the word) and it is a "shall issue" state. Detroit is bad because of all the lunatics and drug addicts that live there.

Posted by: Bill R. at April 15, 2018 08:33 PM (IuYIh)

114 Posted by: An Observation at April 15, 2018 08:01 PM (R/1/i)

MAGNIFICENT!!!

Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at April 15, 2018 08:33 PM (C1NyB)

115 RIP Gunny. The problem with growing old is what to do with a lifetime of collecting guns. I've sold off about a dozen guns in the last weeks because I don't want Mrs. Oldgeezer to worry about them (or get taken to the cleaners). 74 isn't far from 69 with heart problems so the liquidation becomes more pressing. What are the rest of the old morons doing? I sincerely would like to know.

Posted by: oldgeezer at April 15, 2018 08:33 PM (4pPcl)

116 112: Good points. Thanks.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at April 15, 2018 08:34 PM (lApJ5)

117 You can use just about any shotgun for trap. Hell I used an old Model 12. It's the shooter not the gun. But, if you want a decent O/U pick up a used one.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 15, 2018 08:22 PM (3Pma+)


Yeah, used sounds good. I think dad got roped into a fundraiser trap shoot at the club back in 1985 or something and brought a police auction 870 riot gun just for the scandal of it.

I guess I didn't realize how expensive something that's just two tubes and some lockwork can be. Obviously you can go nuts with engraving and inlay and wood and all that, but I don't quite comprehend what kind of function or ergonomic advantage you get for $5,000, honestly.

He's got a Cynergy for switch-hitting in addition to the dedicated Summit for trap, so maybe he'll bring both to the range and I'll see if I can tell the difference.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 08:34 PM (y87Qq)

118 Also sad to hear about the passing of R. Lee Ermey. I did not see Full Metal Jacket until after I did basic at Fort Sill. But there was an authenticity about Ermey's D.I. (Yeah, I know. Army vs. Marines.) All I know is my Drill Sergeant was the hardest, saltiest, scariest human beings I ever knew. And yet, to this day, he is also one of the best men I have ever known. SSG. Richard Adams. Fort Sill OK, 1987-88.

Dammit, I'm all misty and shit.

Posted by: Pug Mahon aka the Deplorable P.U.G. at April 15, 2018 08:35 PM (Mkuv2)

119 off stupid sock from the last thread...

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 08:35 PM (kLwt5)

120 Got my Garand rebarelled by CMP, and returned last week. First 10rd group was 4 MOA with iron sights and surplus ammo. Bring on the killer robots.

Posted by: gp at April 15, 2018 08:35 PM (mk9aG)

121 Posted by: Paolo at April 15, 2018 08:20 PM (kLwt5)

I don't have near that much but I keep adding to what I have. I moved most of mine (about 3-4,000 rounds) down to Florida last year expecting to be living down there by now. Since I am still in Michigan I have amassed about the same amount up here. My last few buys have been either 5.56 or .223 though.

Posted by: Bill R. at April 15, 2018 08:36 PM (IuYIh)

122 Detroit as well as the whole state of Michigan does not have strict gun control.
Posted by: Bill R. at April 15, 2018 08:33 PM (IuYIh)


The chief of the Detroit PD has actually said in so many words that armed citizens have helped to reduce crime in the city.

https://tinyurl.com/ydyqtnhm

Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 08:37 PM (y87Qq)

123 oldgeezer

A friend of mine died last year. His widow, a former lib Professor, asked me to sell his guns to fund the grandchildren's education. I did as she requested, but it broke my heart a little. I was not in a position then to buy them.

I stressed to her, and showed her the poster, saying "Don't let my wife sell these guns for what I told her I paid for them."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 15, 2018 08:38 PM (hyuyC)

124 CaliGirl!

did Mis Hum forward you a message about your friend's dad in the hospital with a bed sore?

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 08:38 PM (kLwt5)

125
When I went to Navy Bootcamp in Orlando they didn't even have a rifle range. All we did was dry fire our issue 03-A3's with leaded barrels.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


Navy boot camp Great Lakes 1971. One morning with 22 rifles at an indoor range.

We got to shoot M-16s into the water while in Viet Nam on the minesweeper.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 15, 2018 08:39 PM (IqV8l)

126 Cartridge guide is missing the venerable .303 British, which is still used around the world. I expect it would be adjacent to the 7.62 x 54, on one side or the other in the lineup.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 15, 2018 08:40 PM (vUFR0)

127 Oldgeezer, I'm specifying in the will (separate codicil) which of the grandkids gets which firearm, of those of great sentimental value, like my Dad's 1911, my Granddad's Remington Model 11, and my Colt Commander and pre-64 Winchester 94. The rest I trust Mrs. SOB to use the Blue Book of Gun Values.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at April 15, 2018 08:41 PM (lApJ5)

128 James Woods' twitter feed and scroll down to see the picture:

https://tinyurl.com/yay5dn96


I don't want to say that's a devastating tweet- oh, who am I kidding. Of course I do!

Posted by: t-bird at April 15, 2018 08:42 PM (FJXGr)

129 Great story about grandad's 1911. I have my dad's 1911 from his service in the Pacific theater. The greatest generation were tougher than I will ever be.

Posted by: colfax mingo at April 15, 2018 08:42 PM (CTauj)

130 Yeah, used sounds good. I think dad got roped into a fundraiser trap shoot at the club back in 1985 or something and brought a police auction 870 riot gun just for the scandal of it.

I guess I didn't realize how expensive something that's just two tubes and some lockwork can be. Obviously you can go nuts with engraving and inlay and wood and all that, but I don't quite comprehend what kind of function or ergonomic advantage you get for $5,000, honestly.

He's got a Cynergy for switch-hitting in addition to the dedicated Summit for trap, so maybe he'll bring both to the range and I'll see if I can tell the difference.
Posted by: hogmartin at April




we took a guy pheasant hunting with us one year who insisted that he was an experienced hunter. he said he used a 20 gauge. opening morning he pulls out his gun which was a used riot gun, pump, from detroit. it was a 12 gauge. he thought it was a 20 gauge because it had "820" engraved on the stock.

even worse, the nearest place to by rounds was half an hour away so we had to give him shells. not only did he not know how to shoot he kept cycling the action without pulling the trigger and claiming every bird that went down was his.

sigh.

should have suspected something was wrong when he showed up in urban camo.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2018 08:42 PM (MTjB1)

131 They don't make em like Pops anymore.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 15, 2018 07:36 PM


Thanks for sharing that. We need more men like him.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 15, 2018 08:42 PM (PB/yJ)

132 speaking of passing gubs on, that's a problem we are going to have to address one of these days, since we are both 29ish and have no offspring of our own. my brother has two boys, but, since their mom is a raving moonbat, i doubt they will be good recipients.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 08:43 PM (kLwt5)

133 What are the rest of the old morons doing? I sincerely would like to know.


Posted by: oldgeezer
---
Five of my kids have requested I retrieve specific shootn irons from the lake right before I go.

My three granddaughters will also get a few. The storage methods I use have each weapon labeled so my survivors can tell who gets what.

I hope my wishes are carried out. My grandpa wanted me to have a specific rifle of his. That didn't happen. My aunt gave that one to another and tried to screw me over by giving me the dirtiest, scroungiest rifle in the pile. Yes, pile - gramps had hundreds of rifles.

After I cleaned it up a bit I found out I had a 1873 Springfield trapdoor carbine with a terrific SN. Sold it to a big time collector and bought my first new car with the proceeds.

Thanks Auntie!!

Posted by: tonypete at April 15, 2018 08:43 PM (9rIkM)

134 Navy boot camp Great Lakes 1971. One morning with 22 rifles at an indoor range.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 15, 2018 08:39 PM (IqV8l)

I went through Air Force Basic Training in 1980. Our live fire was with M-16's that had .22LR adapters. The rifle would jam every other shot and of course we weren't allowed to clear a jam ourselves so we spent half the day with the rifle in one hand and our other in the air for someone to come clear it.

Posted by: Bill R. at April 15, 2018 08:44 PM (IuYIh)

135 James Craig chief of police in Detroit told the citizens to arm up to not be victims

Posted by: Robeartoe at April 15, 2018 08:44 PM (/ZCA9)

136 Conservative Treehouse has a pretty deep report on Comey, Lynch, and tampering in the Weinergate scandal by threatening locals with a Fed investigation of Eric Garner...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 15, 2018 08:45 PM (oVJmc)

137 Yeah, used sounds good. I think dad got roped into a fundraiser trap shoot at the club back in 1985 or something and brought a police auction 870 riot gun just for the scandal of it.

I guess I didn't realize how expensive something that's just two tubes and some lockwork can be. Obviously you can go nuts with engraving and inlay and wood and all that, but I don't quite comprehend what kind of function or ergonomic advantage you get for $5,000, honestly.

He's got a Cynergy for switch-hitting in addition to the dedicated Summit for trap, so maybe he'll bring both to the range and I'll see if I can tell the difference.
Posted by: hogmartin at April




have never had bad luck with a beretta and they are lots less than $5k.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2018 08:45 PM (MTjB1)

138 Find a Winchester Super X-1 for trap. 500-600 bucks for a mint one. Winchester lost money on them because of all machining that went in to them. Check Gunbroker for a deal on one.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at April 15, 2018 08:46 PM (bML9A)

139 Defenestratus I remember your original comment on the 1911, great story/history.


Note that AOSHQ's unofficial poet/limericist (?) laureate, Muldoon, had a father who was in field artillery at Anzio.


MisHum, as ever, thanks so much for the gun thread.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2018 08:48 PM (QDnY+)

140 When I went to Navy Bootcamp in Orlando they didn't even have a rifle range. All we did was dry fire our issue 03-A3's with leaded barrels.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Navy boot camp Great Lakes 1971. One morning with 22 rifles at an indoor range.
We got to shoot M-16s into the water while in Viet Nam on the minesweeper.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 15, 2018 08:39 PM (IqV8l)


Navy boot camp at Great Lakes in 2002 was two days with pistols and shotguns on a laser target range with a pneumatic system that would cycle the slides and simulate recoil on the shotgun. The 3rd day was indoors with pistol only (I was SIQ that day).

On the boat we just did annual pistol and shotgun quals at Halawa. Weapons department (inc. Sonar) got to qual on the M16 and Mk43 too. Oh, and we also got FPFT, which was a week of shooting each other with simunitions pistols in a hangar on Ford Island full of shipping containers done up to simulate a ship and pier. That was fun.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 08:48 PM (y87Qq)

141 Hi I'm "Defenestratus"

Nice story. Nice gun.
Your gramps IS an American Badass.
Treasure your gun and his memory forever.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 15, 2018 08:48 PM (z79tQ)

142 I wish I had kids/grandkids to leave them to. So it goes. They are called mistakes only when you are too old to do it differently.

Posted by: oldgeezer at April 15, 2018 08:50 PM (4pPcl)

143 RIP, R. Lee Ermey. You will be sorely missed.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2018 08:51 PM (Dp6qK)

144 When I finally get around to building the first AR, I plan to use a stock sort of like that one in the photo. Traditional rifle stock shape. Have handled them at the range, they're fine.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2018 08:51 PM (QDnY+)

145 @That Deplorable SOB Van Owen
Attach the gong to the chains using the bolts. As you shoot, you will miss the gong, hit the chain and the bolts and they will be damaged and eventually break.

Posted by: Richard at April 15, 2018 08:52 PM (hUZo5)

146 Ah. Over 100. Meant to put this in food thread, but here is good too, kinda:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yc9y8g2j

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2018 08:53 PM (7ThJ3)

147 Way to go Observation. I really admire what you are doing.

I did not see your original op-ed, nor other items you mentioned.

If that possibility exists, to read them, please let me know. Thank you.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 15, 2018 08:53 PM (AC/qM)

148 Win 7 installed, TurboTax installed, taxes filed, bad news about R. Lee Ermey. It is time for a drink.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2018 08:54 PM (Dp6qK)

149 The intrigue Peebles referred to above is indeed interesting, and offers possible explanations for why the great kerfuffle over the discovery of additional stuff on Weiner's laptop did not lead to more hubbub at the time (shortly before the election). What's also interesting is that it involves the then-AG, not just McCabe (who sat on the whole thing for a month before even telling Comey, pretty amazing chapter from the whole book of jaw-droppers).

Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2018 08:54 PM (QDnY+)

150 The way to motivate a US Attorney is to find his favorite pac and make a donation. His or her personal donation records can be obtained from the FEC (check his wife, too).

Posted by: Jean at April 15, 2018 08:55 PM (C9EVj)

151
My kids will get my collection when I go. We already settled who wants what so I have no concern.

I more wonder about the ammo. Got enough so that storage is becoming a serious issue. If I ever needed to bug out, someone would be getting a decent amount of free ammunition, there's no way I could carry it all.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 15, 2018 08:56 PM (S/hVx)

152 Posted by: An Observation at April 15, 2018 08:01 PM (R/1/i)

Well done, sir.

On the 2A front, scored 8# AA2230 and 1,000 Hornady 55 FMJ, as well as about 20 normal capacity mags, this week. LC surplus brass prep is in my future.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2018 08:56 PM (Dp6qK)

153 The CZ Redheads are nice too

Posted by: Jean at April 15, 2018 08:57 PM (C9EVj)

154 OT/ I did an iOS update and up popped a screen on completion that said: We believe you have a right to privacy, and strive to protect your data. And about being transparent with users on how they handle things. And about continuing to improve security. (Obviously all paraphrased by me.)

Now, if this has popped up before, I missed it.

It appears to be new...maybe in response to the whole Facebook debacle.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 15, 2018 08:58 PM (AC/qM)

155 Do you own any, or are you interested in buying any? ISTR that you live in NYC but I could be mistaken.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 07:59 PM (y87Qq)



I do not own any. I live in LI just outside NYC. I will be moving shortly and then I will interested and will probably deluge the experts here about these matters.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2018 08:58 PM (/qEW2)

156 Teej,

Waved in your general direction as you went by to the south,

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 15, 2018 08:58 PM (hyuyC)

157 Resident 3vil shoots trap with a very old Parker...

because she only buys herself the best toys.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 08:59 PM (kLwt5)

158 Just based on some range experience, but eventually you're likely to have damage to any mounting system you use for steel plates (if you're shooting high-power rifle rounds). Sort of part of the deal. If you plan only to use handgun-velocity or rimfire, probably no issue.


The action rifle match I do uses hanging steel plates at various ranges up to 200 yds. 90% AR shooters. Rare that the few of us shooting 30-06 (M1) or 54R (Mosin-Nagant) don't, um, force a stoppage to repair chains that have been shot away. While with the AR guys, we have to use spotters with binocs and have lots of eyes to confirm they've even hit the plate, much of the time.


Boom.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2018 08:59 PM (QDnY+)

159 Defenestratus - great story! What an honor..

My father brought back some souvenirs from WWII.. same theaters as your grandfather.. North Africa and Italy.. he was a tank gunner..

Unfortunately, when he died in 1965, my grandfather became the custodian of the small wooden ammo box (with rope handles) holding the mementos..

One was a German Luger.. by the time I became an adult and was given the box many years later, it was gone..

What was left were some pictures and also a German German horse-hair flapped knapsack - with blood spots.

The pictures, of course, I cherish the most.. him and his crew with Italian families who took them in, etc..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 15, 2018 09:00 PM (5tSKk)

160 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2018 08:58 PM (/qEW2)

Whereabouts ya going, generally speaking?

Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at April 15, 2018 09:00 PM (C1NyB)

161 Thanks for the trap gun tips, I'll look those over. I still don't know if I even want to get into it, so I'll try his stuff before I even consider buying something. I know with hobbies like cycling, there's a quality floor where if you get a Walmart Schwinn, you'll get frustrated and quit, but it takes a while to get to the point where you're good enough to get the benefit of a $2,000 Bianchi. I don't know yet if trap has the same kind of curve.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 09:00 PM (y87Qq)

162 RIP R Lee Ermey. Money quote.

"Do you realize I have not done a movie in five to six years? Why? Because I was totally blackballed by the ... liberals in Hollywood," he alleged. "They can destroy you. They're hateful people [who] don't just not like you, they want to take away your livelihood ... that's why I live up in the desert on a dirt road ... I don't have to put up with their crap."

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 15, 2018 09:01 PM (L3YlV)

163 First gun that I bought was Plainfield .30 Carbine that I later traded for a WWII era M-1 Carbine. I was thinking about buying a .30 Carbine for Mrs Cop because she thinks the AR-15 is too muzzle-heavy for her. I was stunned to discover what those little carbines are going for now (north of $1000)! Can I borrow the keys to the Way-Back Machine and lend my 1980s self some money to buy guns?

Got a nice deal on a new Ruger SR22 and 3 magazines at a big Columbus Ohio gun dealer (Vance's). Regularly $419, bigly discounted to $299. Got this as a training pistol for Mrs. Cop.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 15, 2018 09:02 PM (5Yee7)

164 One option to consider for those with substantial gun collections, no heirs, and no gun people in their circle is to make an arrangement to donate the guns to a local gun club (non-profit kind). One that has youth programs, training, etc. A club can either put the guns directly to good use, or auction them off, which also puts $$$ into the cause.


Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2018 09:03 PM (QDnY+)

165 you can shoot trap with any shotgun with a sufficiently long barrel...

it's just as easy to miss with a cheap shotgun as it is with an expensive one.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 09:04 PM (kLwt5)

166 As an item for discussion, from a practical point of view, as opposed to historical or emotional, Mini-14 vs. M1 Carbine.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2018 09:05 PM (w1zJX)

167 maybe i can auction them off to t3h Horde to pay for my wake?

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 09:06 PM (kLwt5)

168 Love the 1911 story, defenestrate.

Thank you for relaying.

Posted by: Blake at April 15, 2018 09:06 PM (WEBkv)

169 Now, if this has popped up before, I missed it.

It appears to be new...maybe in response to the whole Facebook debacle.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 15, 2018 08:58 PM (AC/qM)


It's been in there since iOS 9 towards the end of 2015 but has been made more prominent with iOS 11.3 at the end of March (and now you have to see and acknowledge it). The fine print legalese has probably evolved some in the last few years too.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 09:06 PM (y87Qq)

170 you can shoot trap with any shotgun with a sufficiently long barrel...

it's just as easy to miss with a cheap shotgun as it is with an expensive one.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April



less embarrassing missing with a cheap gun.

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2018 09:07 PM (MTjB1)

171 Do you realize I have not done a movie in five to six years? Why?
Because I was totally blackballed by the ... liberals in Hollywood


Liberals suck. One of the absolutes of life.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 15, 2018 09:07 PM (Tyii7)

172 Buckeye Cop, the boss loves the M-1 carbine (have a real one and a reproduction). A very easy and naturally shooting little rifle that I've never seen anyone not like the first time they touch it.


The Inland reproductions are around $1K I think, but the Kahr/Auto Ordnance repros are less (I have one and it's fine). And depending where you are, a real one could be found for less too (obviously nothing special, or a "correct" collector's version, but a shooter).


Just tumbled a ton of 30C brass this weekend. Reloading it comes it about half the price of factory, which to borrow from Sam "takes the sting outta bein' occ-a-pied".

Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2018 09:07 PM (QDnY+)

173 MH, Thanks for the thread and mentioning shotguns. Seems like most of our talk on the thread about them is their defensive use. I bet that ND tournament is a lot of fun.

My favorite style of shotgun is a side by side. I'm a decent, not great, wingshot but that SxS works best for me. Don't know why. And they are usually heavy enough to soak up some of the recoil. Another benefit is if you load black powder shells, they are easy to clean afterwards.

Posted by: JTB at April 15, 2018 09:07 PM (V+03K)

174 off hand, i'd say the Mini-14, since you have some caliber choices, all of which i believe ballistically out perform the 30 cal carbine round, IIRC.

that said, we have several carbines and no Mini-14s....

yet.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 09:08 PM (kLwt5)

175 Am looking at the Chiappa Rhino 40 D'S 357 magnum for myself. Any opinions on said weapob. Recently had thumb joint replacement surgery and while healed, apprenticeship have pain issues for a while

Posted by: Agnes Bullock at April 15, 2018 09:09 PM (6tXmA)

176 I do not own any. I live in LI just outside NYC. I will be moving shortly and then I will interested and will probably deluge the experts here about these matters.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 15, 2018 08:58 PM (/qEW2


Hah, my dad grew up in East Meadow. I think his first job was selling snacks at Jones Beach in high school.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 09:09 PM (y87Qq)

177 Got a nice deal on a new Ruger SR22 and 3 magazines at a big Columbus
Ohio gun dealer (Vance's). Regularly $419, bigly discounted to $299.
Got this as a training pistol for Mrs. Cop.


Started my niece out with one. She just loved it. A great little first-timer.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 15, 2018 09:09 PM (Tyii7)

178 Mike H., M1 carbine fires essentially a handgun round (357Mag ballistics, almost exactly). Mini-14 fires a rifle round (forget the caliber). Have never fired a Mini-14. Depending on the use and the user, M1 could be better - very very easy to shoot well.


I assume Mini-14 is pretty easy to shoot, too.


What's the intended purpose?

Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2018 09:10 PM (QDnY+)

179 when we go pheasant hunting, i use our Stoeger Double Defense S-S...

first time i used our Browning Double Auto, but wasn't knocking down birds like the others.

using the DD, i get my share, except we never got out to hunt this year.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 09:12 PM (kLwt5)

180 The CZ Redheads are nice too
Posted by: Jean at April 15, 2018 08:57 PM (C9EVj)


I'm a sucker for CZs but never had a need for a gun where I didn't already have another make in mind. Maybe now's the time.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 09:12 PM (y87Qq)

181 Now, if this has popped up before, I missed it.

It appears to be new...maybe in response to the whole Facebook debacle.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 15, 2018 08:58 PM (AC/qM)

It's been in there since iOS 9 towards the end of 2015 but has been made more prominent with iOS 11.3 at the end of March (and now you have to see and acknowledge it). The fine print legalese has probably evolved some in the last few years too.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 09:06 PM (y87Qq)

Yes, a lot more prominent. My keyboard is now freezing up, so I'll have to post next question another day. Must be the update that did it. Argh.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 15, 2018 09:12 PM (AC/qM)

182 24 CaliGirl!

did Mis Hum forward you a message about your friend's dad in the hospital with a bed sore?
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 08:38 PM (kLwt

Yes he did. Thank you for caring.
The wounds he keeps getting are actually a side effect from chemo. He also has one on his arm now that won't heal. He bumped his arm and now it's a wound. He has a specialist treating him.
It's sad, he keeps having to stop his treatment to facilitate his wounds healing.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 15, 2018 09:13 PM (2DYau)

183 115 ... oldgeezer,

I'm about your age and don't have kids to leave the arsenal to. I've started the process of giving certain guns to deserving relatives. The others are covered in our wills.

Posted by: JTB at April 15, 2018 09:14 PM (V+03K)

184 shot the Rhino at the local toy store....

it was... interesting, but, then again, i only fired a couple of rounds, into their testing tank, so it's not as if it was a real test.

that's all i have on the subject.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 09:14 PM (kLwt5)

185 Buckeye Cop, the boss loves the M-1 carbine (have a real one and a reproduction). A very easy and naturally shooting little rifle that I've never seen anyone not like the first time they touch it.


The Inland reproductions are around $1K I think, but the Kahr/Auto Ordnance repros are less (I have one and it's fine).


The M-1 is a great little carbine but it has significantly increased in value compared to other firearms. Back in the 1980s, I could buy an M-1 Carbine for less than what a decent Colt or S&W revolver cost. Now it seems the valuation is the other way around.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at April 15, 2018 09:15 PM (5Yee7)

186 Yes he did.
snip
It's sad, he keeps having to stop his treatment to facilitate his wounds healing.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 15, 2018 09:13 PM (2DYau)
---
de nada...

it's my profession, and i get really POed when i think someone's getting substandard care.... could you tell?

my best to him and his family

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 09:17 PM (kLwt5)

187 I shot the hippo
But I did not shoot no rhino

Posted by: andycanuck at April 15, 2018 09:17 PM (VBKy9)

188 with all the carbines coming back from Korea, maybe the prices at CMP will drop some...

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 09:18 PM (kLwt5)

189 RIP R Lee Ermey. Money quote.

"Do you realize I have not done a movie in five to six years? Why? Because I was totally blackballed by the ... liberals in Hollywood," he alleged. "They can destroy you. They're hateful people [who] don't just not like you, they want to take away your livelihood ... that's why I live up in the desert on a dirt road ... I don't have to put up with their crap."
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 15, 2018 09:01 PM (L3YlV)


So, Hollywood is fine with sexual assualts and pedo parties, and all kinds of depravity and law breaking.

But if you are politically conservative, you are an outcast.

I've heard this many times now. It is almost biblical. Cast out.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 15, 2018 09:18 PM (AC/qM)

190 Buckeye Cop just checked, Kahr/AO carbines about $750, Inlands still around $1K. Prices for real ones depend a lot on location and condition. I would think that shooter-category M1s could still be found for less than $750 in some markets. Haven't checked GunJoker.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2018 09:18 PM (QDnY+)

191 "We need more of this."

Little flounder got about 200-300 rounds on a single shot a few weeks back. Next is the 10-22 and blasting stuff.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 15, 2018 09:19 PM (Dp6qK)

192 gotta go start the charcoal for dinner...

and what kind of gub thread is it w/o Jim Sunk New Dawn chiming in?

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 09:19 PM (kLwt5)

193 I want a Mateba.

Not enough to buy one or anything... I just want to already own one.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 09:19 PM (y87Qq)

194 175 ... Sorry I'm not familiar with the Chiappa Rhino but a general word of advice. Unlss you especially need to shoot 357 magnums, use 38 specials, even gentle wadcutters. That will reduce the recoil by 50 percent or more, they are more controllable, and are much easier on the joints. Also, unless you reload, the ammo is a lot cheaper.

Posted by: JTB at April 15, 2018 09:20 PM (V+03K)

195 So, Hollywood is fine with sexual assualts and pedo parties, and all kinds of depravity and law breaking.

But if you are politically conservative, you are an outcast.

I've heard this many times now. It is almost biblical. Cast out.
Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 15, 2018 09:18 PM (

Sad isn't it? They'll give kudos and work to Woody Allen or Polanski, But if you're a dirty conservative? !!!!!!!! GTFO!

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 15, 2018 09:21 PM (L3YlV)

196 164 One option to consider for those with substantial gun collections, no heirs, and no gun people in their circle is to make an arrangement to donate the guns to a local gun club (non-profit kind). One that has youth programs, training, etc. A club can either put the guns directly to good use, or auction them off, which also puts $$$ into the cause.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2018 09:03 PM (QDnY+)
----------------------------------
Yes! I guy we knew did something like that. He was a widower with no kids or suitable heirs and just about all of his wealth was in firearms.

He donated all of his long guns (with ammo) to a local hunting club for their free or super-cheap kids' programs.
Then he left his handguns (with ammo) to his church!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 15, 2018 09:21 PM (0jtPF)

197 Buckeye Cop, was it you who mentioned on the morning thread you bought your wife a Ruger SR22? I've had one for several years now. I think it's a fantastic plinking pistol. It fits well in my hand and the rounds go where I aim them. I use it at the range after I've popped off a couple hundred rounds of the caliber of the week because .22's are cheap to shoot.

Posted by: Bill R. at April 15, 2018 09:23 PM (IuYIh)

198 Margarita, I'm not "churched", but that sounds like MY kinda church!


Thing is, if it works for their situations, I would hope people looking to pass firearms on to non-heirs or non-friends would try to do it in a way that preserves any guns of note and helps promote the sport/hobby/right.


Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2018 09:23 PM (QDnY+)

199 my best to him and his family
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 09:17 PM (kLwt5)

Thank you, I do appreciate the help.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 15, 2018 09:24 PM (2DYau)

200 Ermey criticized the GodKing Obama,that was the end of his acting career.RIP and Semper Fi

Posted by: steevy at April 15, 2018 09:24 PM (LiyEm)

201
The M-1 is a great little carbine but it has significantly increased in value compared to other firearms. Back in the 1980s, I could buy an M-1 Carbine for less than what a decent Colt or S&W revolver cost. Now it seems the valuation is the other way around.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop
--------------

Read, weep:

"The last big import wave of M1 Carbines came in from blue Sky and Arlington Ordnance decades ago. In 1963, about 240,000 M1 Carbines were decommissioned and sold (without magazines) to NRA members for a $20 each ($17.50 plus $2.50 S&H)."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2018 09:24 PM (y3sT9)

202 Radetzky March for pistol and string quartet

https://youtu.be/1Fx4-TT9Vng

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 15, 2018 09:25 PM (rnAwa)

203 I lost ALL my guns in the snowstorm this weekend. Total white out so I don't remember where I was even. Bummer.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 15, 2018 09:28 PM (L3YlV)

204 So Gunny is dead for real. Well, dammit. He was a real character. RIP

Posted by: Insomniac at April 15, 2018 09:29 PM (NWiLs)

205 so did he really vote for obama?

Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2018 09:29 PM (MTjB1)

206 The caption for the picture:



Sons, those are evil Communists and American traitors. They hate us.

Hit them center mass.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2018 09:31 PM (UsCnO)

207 193 I want a Mateba.

Not enough to buy one or anything... I just want to already own one.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 09:19 PM (y87Qq)

Me too. Always thought they were a really cool piece of machinery.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 15, 2018 09:31 PM (NWiLs)

208 112 Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at April 15, 2018 08:28 PM (lApJ5)

Danger of hitting frame and chains and you also limit your shots on target unless you don't mind shooting at a moving one.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 15, 2018 08:31 PM (2DOZq)


You can mitigate the swinging of a hit target by adding a tail. I use a length of 1/2" rope long enough that about a foot length is on the ground (or floor for indoor ranges). Swinging stops in a couple seconds.

For indoor use, I attach it to the backer board using a spring clamp. For a gong, I'd drill a hole in the bottom of the gong and use an s-hook for the rope.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at April 15, 2018 09:32 PM (di1hb)

209 BourbonChicken

That Gun Percussionist guy always cracks me up.
Thanks.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 15, 2018 09:32 PM (hyuyC)

210 205 so did he really vote for obama?
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 15, 2018 09:29 PM (MTjB1)
---------------------
In 2008 he said he did. I guess he was fooled by the smooth 'moderate' talk.
But he woke up in a year or so.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 15, 2018 09:32 PM (0jtPF)

211 Mike H., I vaguely recall, as a kid, barrels of milsurp rifles at the gun store my older brother would go to. Under $100. Even adjusting for inflation, not bad.


But I'll do my old spiel again: history buffs, military rifle fans, red-blooded manly men and women and all the other genders and ships at sea, get thee to the CMP, where a very nice safe shootable piece of history in the form of an M-1 Garand is still available for $750 (or $650 for a field-grade) .


So, a few years hence, you can post a comment here or elsewhere saying "wow, I got my Garand for XXXX, now they're YYYYY!!".

Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2018 09:34 PM (QDnY+)

212 "When I die, don't sell my guns for the price I told my wife."

Also guitars.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 15, 2018 09:37 PM (rnAwa)

213 Heh.
I gave a wave north as I passed 177.

Posted by: teej at April 15, 2018 09:38 PM (ZCD4H)

214 the best shotgun i ever owned was an ithaca model 37. lightweight, sweet shooting, piece of machinery. like a moron, sold it. best damn gun ever.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 15, 2018 09:38 PM (KP5rU)

215 Posted by: rhomboid at April 15, 2018 09:34 PM (QDnY+)

I'm really frustrated that they don't have any 1903s any more. I bought one from a work colleague in the early 90s for a couple hundred bucks. Didn't know what it was and traded it off later for some crap. A shot gun maybe? I don't even have THAT any more.

I still contemplate hari-kiri over that.....

Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at April 15, 2018 09:38 PM (C1NyB)

216 Whoa. Negan --- dead

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 15, 2018 09:39 PM (y3sT9)

217 Gay activist lawyer in NY douses himself with gas and then ignites in an effort to demonstrate what needs to be done to save the planet. Let's hope more lefty nitwits follow suit.

Posted by: f'd at April 15, 2018 09:39 PM (UdKB7)

218 Is it time for the ONT?

Posted by: ALH at April 15, 2018 09:41 PM (YYn2L)

219 damn you all... now i have to see if we can find a Mateba here in #Failifornia to buy used....

because i'm pretty sure they aren't on the stupid "safety" list.

you know, the one that the cops don't have to worry about.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 09:41 PM (kLwt5)

220 216; the chocolate king?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 15, 2018 09:41 PM (KP5rU)

221 local toy store has an 03 on sale for less than 1K... $850, i think.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 09:42 PM (kLwt5)

222 ;' the chocolate king?'

Ain't he already daid?

Posted by: f'd at April 15, 2018 09:42 PM (UdKB7)

223 222: i don't know, or give a fuck.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 15, 2018 09:43 PM (KP5rU)

224 damn you all... now i have to see if we can find a Mateba here in #Failifornia to buy used....
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 15, 2018 09:41 PM (kLwt5)


Speaking of spendy guns... I don't see any on GB. I did see some records of one sold for the buy it now price of $4k about five years ago.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 15, 2018 09:45 PM (y87Qq)

225
"Do you realize I have not done a movie in five to six years? Why? Because I was totally blackballed by the ... liberals in Hollywood,"

Reparations for the "blacklist."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 15, 2018 09:45 PM (IqV8l)

226 *ONT is NOOD!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at April 15, 2018 09:46 PM (Ckg4U)

227 That image is going to haunt me more than anything in Saving Ryan's Privates.

A body still running twenty feet while humping ammo for an M-2 after an 88mm round decapitated him.

Soul book and a pistol. "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition."

It is humbling to think we stand here today speaking English because of men like those and my grandfather who was probably at Anzio also but he would never talk about his service. And now I can't ask him since he has reported for final muster to Fiddler's Green.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at April 15, 2018 09:47 PM (OTUGn)

228 211 ... " get thee to the CMP, where a very nice safe shootable piece of history in the form of an M-1 Garand is still available for $750 (or $650 for a field-grade)."

THIS!! One of the great deals in the firearms world.

Posted by: JTB at April 15, 2018 09:48 PM (V+03K)

229 R. Lee Ermey dead at 74 from pneumonia.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 15, 2018 09:48 PM (+y/Ru)

230 This is crazy...and a sign of the times I guess. But really cray-cray.

"Former Hillary Clinton Spox Blames Syria On Susan Sarandon."

https://tinyurl.com/ybgrfqzz








Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at April 15, 2018 09:50 PM (1Y/JT)

231 As for me, I gave son N**** the Valiant whatever he wanted to take with him into the Air Force; just hauled the 1886 Win. 40-65, a Sears Ted Williams auto .22, and a 12 g. Win. 1400 to my daughter in NC, (where I am, awaiting the birth of grandkid #3) and kept my pre-64 Win. 94 30/30, and Marlin 39A .22 (that I bought in '67 when I was 14) for myself. I'll probably pick up a Mossberg 500 for defense before I head home.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at April 15, 2018 09:52 PM (Pzj+4)

232 231 As for me, I gave son N**** the Valiant whatever he wanted to take with him into the Air Force; just hauled the 1886 Win. 40-65, a Sears Ted Williams auto .22, and a 12 g. Win. 1400 to my daughter in NC, (where I am, awaiting the birth of grandkid #3) and kept my pre-64 Win. 94 30/30, and Marlin 39A .22 (that I bought in '67 when I was 14) for myself. I'll probably pick up a Mossberg 500 for defense before I head home.

A man with a plan. Makes perfect sense to me.

I especially get keeping the .22 Marlin you bought at a kid. And I bet it is in perfect functional condition, less a few scratches on the stock and a nick or two on the bluing, with complete stories behind each one of them.

Like it should be. Thanks for sharing.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 15, 2018 09:59 PM (UsCnO)

233 On the road tonite headed for Tucson for a couple weeks. No range time for me. Did some minor Dremel adjustments to the dust cover on my AK yesterday. Now it fits

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at April 15, 2018 10:07 PM (E+1K3)

234 I'd take a Tavor TS12 over the Keltec KSG.

Posted by: Ringo Phonebone at April 15, 2018 10:10 PM (JrXm2)

235 Yay! Gun thread. Just brought back two interesting machine guns from this weekends auction, an FM1924/29 Châtellerault 7.5mm made in 1951 and SGM (SG43) on a PK tripod. Plus all sorts of other goodies.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at April 15, 2018 10:20 PM (bgJ0E)

236 Comey is giving Trump a major red ass tonight!

Posted by: Bill W at April 15, 2018 10:42 PM (fNcEQ)

237 234 I'd take a Tavor TS12 over the Keltec KSG.
Posted by: Ringo Phonebone at April 15, 2018 10:10 PM (JrXm2)

I'd love a bullpup semi-auto shotgun, too.

It would be good to see some testing of it, see how it gases.

One of the things holding me back from the KSG is how close to the muzzle your support hand gets. I've seen some gruesome pictures of accidents with the KSG.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 16, 2018 12:10 AM (xJa6I)

238 @lin-duh

Way late to this party, but the M&P Shield is an inexpensive, slim quality pistol.

I don't know anyone who has shot one who hasn't liked it.

If you're in the market for a single stack 9mm, it's a good choice.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 16, 2018 12:34 AM (xJa6I)

239 The Cobalt is a sweet ride no doubt...but the Kel-Tec RDB-C is shipping...and that thing is magical (even in Cali)

Posted by: The Don (CA) at April 16, 2018 11:23 AM (sQBe5)

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What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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