Update: David Hogg <i>Was</i> At School During Shooting, But Got His Camera from Home and Came Back Afterwards to Do Interviews

Update: David Hogg Was At School During Shooting, But Got His Camera from Home and Came Back Afterwards to Do Interviews

I overread David Hogg's statement yesterday. Although he did say he "raced to the school" on his bike in that interview, he didn't say he had been home all day before then. Which raises the possibility that he had been at school during the shooting, then left to go home for his camera, and then "raced" back to school.

This site -- Politifact, which I don't normally trust, but I'm going to credit it as accurate for now in this case -- says Hogg got to the school with his camera at 6 pm, which is obviously much later than any school closes and hence this particular arrival at school would be well after the school day was ended early due to the shooting. And therefore he would have had plenty of time to go home, get his camera, and come back, even including all those hours one would assume he wasn't free to leave due to police lockdown.

I'm pretty sure I leapt too quickly on this and didn't consider the was-there-and-left-and-then-came-back possibility.

We might hear more about this, but this timeline seems pretty plausible to me, and I think now we just heard a statement out of full context.

Somewhat related, TMZ is reporting Hogg was accepted to a number of schools, including Cal Poly, but was rejected from the University of California school system.

David has been rejected by the 4 University of California campuses where he submitted applications -- UCLA, UCSD, UCSB and UC Irvine. He says the rejection letters came 2 weeks ago. He has a 4.2 GPA and an SAT score of 1270.
Schools claim extracurricular activities count, but if organizing the March For Our Lives wasn't enough ... it's not clear what is. David is clearly disappointed.
David got accepted at Cal Poly, Cal State San Marcos and Florida Atlantic University, but he's not sure what he'll do after graduating.

He organized it? Well, whatever. I think it's interesting that it seems certain to media liberals that being politically active ought to count as an "extracurricular activity" that should get you into a college you would otherwise be rejected from.

Would they say the same about pro-2nd-Amendment student activists? Pro-life student activists?

Somehow, I think they would not.

TMZ figures schools should be "clamoring" to admit this Privileged White Male because he's a leftist -- which is what most students at these schools are.

So the diversity he'd bring is... none. None more diversity.

I imagine we can safely say that "diverse" is now just straight-up code for "leftist." And it doesn't matter if your school is packed with leftists; adding one more just makes it that much more "diverse."

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 02:39 PM

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1 Well, I don't normally cheer on the UC schools but thank goodness...he would have been even more insufferable as a Bruin.

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 02:34 PM (a0IVu)

2 those schools are all very difficult to get into....no matter what your gpa and he's not brown so he gets zero affirmative action points to boost his desirability.

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 27, 2018 02:35 PM (0O7c5)

3 Whatever. He's still a sniveling, corrupt little commie shithead.

Posted by: Stu-22 at March 27, 2018 02:36 PM (be0vm)

4 what exactly does he plan to study at college?

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 02:36 PM (a0IVu)

5 Eh. Fuck him anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:36 PM (NWiLs)

6 4 what exactly does he plan to study at college?
Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 02:36 PM (a0IVu)

Cock.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:36 PM (NWiLs)

7 1270? Seriously that's pretty weak if you want to get into a higher tier school.

Posted by: Ryan Frank at March 27, 2018 02:36 PM (EKxGt)

8 Did Hogg participate in the ostracizing of Nikolas Cruz?

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 27, 2018 02:37 PM (4e+hS)

9 I still say pig-boy and skinhead commie girl were on team Cruz bully.

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2018 02:37 PM (gbWkA)

10 Cock.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:36 PM (NWiLs)
Hmm...I can see why he wanted to be in So Cal close to Hollywood.

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 02:37 PM (a0IVu)

11 I remember seeing a flyer in my dorm that unironically advertised a group limited to only one ethnicity as "diverse".

(Well...in their partial defense, "Hispanic" and "Asian" (it was one of those) are both ridiculously broad descriptions. But still. We all know that "diverse" was code for "no honkies".)

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at March 27, 2018 02:37 PM (kB/Vf)

12 It would have been easier and less bothersome to everyone else if he had just performed gender reassignment surgery on himself and claimed victimhood status to gain admission. California schools are big on that, I hear.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2018 02:38 PM (7ZVPa)

13 what exactly does he plan to study at college?

+++

Double major: Marxism AND Socialism

Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at March 27, 2018 02:38 PM (PKrFo)

14 Insane student activists always improve campus life and recruiting.

Right Missouri and Evergreen State?

I mean, they're looking for the next Trigglypuff.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 27, 2018 02:38 PM (E5ZoU)

15 SATs of 1270 are weak.

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2018 02:38 PM (gbWkA)

16 4.2 GPA from a South Florida HS? That would have been equivalent to me getting a 2.2 GPA from the HS I attended 40 years ago that was run by nuns.

Posted by: bound4er at March 27, 2018 02:38 PM (mAJkd)

17 I watched the actual video clip including a bit before and let it run a bit after the I got my bike and from the edit it clearly seemed to be referring to when he very first responded to the news of the shooting. It's edited to make it seem like that.

Which begs the question as to why CBS would do that. *dons jaunty tin foil hat* To make us all call him a liar?

Also wasn't there a teacher who got suspended for asking her class to discuss the basic question of whether pro-life students would be treated the same way? IIRC, and I may not, she wasn't even advocating for that position, she was, get this, attempting to use a current events topic as a teachable moment to get her class to consider matters for multiple perspectives. Also known as teaching.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 27, 2018 02:38 PM (mf5HN)

18 Has Hogg addressed the rumors that his bullying of Cruz may have contributed to Cruz's shooting spree yet?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2018 02:38 PM (EyPfd)

19 1270 isn't that good a score these days. They've rejiggered the scoring scale several times since around 1996.

And 4.2 gpa? What amazing grade inflation. My valedictorian was only 3.9 and went to Harvard.

Posted by: wooga at March 27, 2018 02:39 PM (n5VsB)

20 14 Insane student activists always improve campus life and recruiting.

Right Missouri and Evergreen State?

I mean, they're looking for the next Trigglypuff.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 27, 2018 02:38 PM (E5ZoU)

His scrawny ass better start mainlining Crisco if that's his goal.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:39 PM (NWiLs)

21 what exactly does he plan to study at college?

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 02:36 PM (a0IVu)

Wymyn's studies. Or journOlism.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2018 02:39 PM (ptqGC)

22 >>6 4 what exactly does he plan to study at college? Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 02:36 PM (a0IVu)

Ology. You know, "ology-ology-ology."

Posted by: Zod at March 27, 2018 02:39 PM (Bdeb0)

23 David Hogg is not the right color for easy admission to liberal State colleges and he is from out of State which makes it even worse.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 02:39 PM (mpXpK)

24 I got a 1260, myself.

Of course that was when the maximum score was 1600.

This is D2 athletic scholarship level stupid.

Posted by: Oschisms at March 27, 2018 02:39 PM (Y/y3J)

25 He has a 4.2 GPA and an SAT score of 1270.

Why do they keep moving the goalposts?

When I was in school you couldn't get better than a 4.0 and a 1270 SAT was respectable, because it was out of 1600 not 2400. You can barely compare things anymore.

(*cough* I did better combining two scores than he did with three).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 02:39 PM (fuK7c)

26 from the sidebar - I watched "Gabriel over the White House" once, that movie is creepy as fuck. It's a pretty good view of what the liberal left has really always wanted, and they're embarrassed about that movie now because it's pretty easy to see that it was Mussolini and Hitler who responded to the left wings call and became the kinds of Leaders that the left wanted.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2018 02:39 PM (k1TUh)

27 7 1270? Seriously that's pretty weak if you want to get into a higher tier school.

Posted by: Ryan Frank at March 27, 2018 02:36 PM (EKxGt)

Local state school, maybe, but only if daddy went there too.

Or else standards have been lowered since my day.

Of course, once he offers blow jobs to the administrators, that chance might rise a bit.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:39 PM (7UW64)

28 We don't want this guy trying to muscle in on our turf! - Student Leftists Organization Policing Programing Youth

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at March 27, 2018 02:39 PM (0QYMt)

29 Diverse also means anti-white.

Posted by: LGoPs at March 27, 2018 02:40 PM (UThOJ)

30 He'll end up in J School if he completes HS. He wants to be the next Tapper Clapper Cooper Pooper.

Posted by: Cheri at March 27, 2018 02:40 PM (oiNtH)

31 His SJW parents urged him to politicize a tragedy. 17 dead, this is your big break! It's ugly.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 27, 2018 02:40 PM (RD7QR)

32 If he's gay or gender confused, does that check a box?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2018 02:40 PM (ptqGC)

33 15 SATs of 1270 are weak.
Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2018 02:38 PM (gbWkA)

30 years ago that was a solid score. Now, not so much. And a 4.2 GPA is crap too, with all the honors and AP classes you can take that are on a 5 point scale.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:40 PM (NWiLs)

34 Wait... SAT score of 1270?

Kid is a moron, and not in a good way...

Average now is 1500 for College bound students.

Posted by: Don Q. at March 27, 2018 02:41 PM (NgKpN)

35 Okay, serious question about Hogg's facial structure.

Why does it look like the top part of his head is huge but everything below his ears is shrunken?

Can he have a weaker jawline and chin?

Did mom smoke too many cigarettes when she was pregnant?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 27, 2018 02:41 PM (E5ZoU)

36 Not much on wussy boy, but tell the bald Cuban chick that we're still interested. Very interested...

Posted by: Bat Wielding Lesbians Of Evergreen State College at March 27, 2018 02:41 PM (O5Q3r)

37 Oh, I shoulda done some research. The maximum SAT score is back up to 1600. But there's an essay now and I'm sure it hasn't gotten any harder in the past 20 years.

Posted by: Oschisms at March 27, 2018 02:41 PM (Y/y3J)

38 He might identify as Native American. Then he is a sure thing.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:41 PM (7UW64)

39 32
If he's gay or gender confused, does that check a box?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2018 02:40 PM (ptqGC)
He should have picked at least 3 of the 32 gender identities recognized by some of these schools.

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 02:41 PM (a0IVu)

40 He has a 4.2 GPA

I really abhor this asinine >4.0 gpa bullshit. I'd like to slap the hell out of whatever Education Dept loser came up with this shit. It wasn't enough that they made a joke out of grades by moving the assumed mean in the grade curve from a "C" to a "B", now they have to make a total joke out of the whole scoring system.

Whenever I hear anyone tell me he has a GPA over 4 I just laugh at him. As Control said in "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy":

"Nothing is genuine, anymore!"

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 02:41 PM (8gDQu)

41 >>32 If he's gay or gender confused, does that check a box? Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2018 02:40 PM (ptqGC)

Watch your pronouns, hater. It identifies as It, Them, or We.

Posted by: Zod at March 27, 2018 02:42 PM (Bdeb0)

42 Hogg would be happily accepted into the Hitler Jugend. He meets all the qualifications for being a good Nazi.

Posted by: LGoPs at March 27, 2018 02:42 PM (UThOJ)

43 You're all wrong.

Perry brought Phineus Hogg the camera ... after escaping from Doofensmirtz.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 02:42 PM (DMoow)

44 He has a 4.2 GPA

--

Out of what, ten? GPA used to be out of 4, kind of hard to earn 105 percent, isn't it?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2018 02:42 PM (7ZVPa)

45 *eyes all the bait the Horde is casting*

*considers the castees*

Naaaaaaaaah. Not worth the mental space.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 27, 2018 02:42 PM (mf5HN)

46 He has that German Punching Face thing.

Posted by: Roland THTG at March 27, 2018 02:42 PM (xBSm0)

47 Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 02:39 PM (fuK7c)

The 2400 score SAT was pretty short-lived, I believe.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 02:42 PM (8gDQu)

48 @19
They have indeed rejiggered the scale multiple times. In every case, the object is to make the average score go up. This has the effect of having more and more people at the top of the scale. When that's the case it's easy to admit who you want because everybody's got a high score and you have to rely on quote holistic unquote factors.

Posted by: DC Council number at March 27, 2018 02:43 PM (nIsgp)

49
30 He'll end up in J School if he completes HS. He wants to be the next Tapper Clapper Cooper Pooper.

Posted by: Cheri at March 27, 2018 02:40 PM (oiNtH)

Carrying a trapper-keeper?

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:43 PM (7UW64)

50 This Hogg fuckstick would fit in nicely at Evergreen in Oregon. They're into brutally forcing compliance with their ideology.

If he'd identify as a woman, it would be a lock, for sure.

Posted by: Marmo - yes, I am entertained, thank you very much at March 27, 2018 02:43 PM (fq72/)

51 30 years ago that was a solid score. Now, not so much. And a 4.2 GPA is crap too,

+++

K but you still can't do an iMessage or something

Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at March 27, 2018 02:43 PM (PKrFo)

52 4 what exactly does he plan to study at college?
Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 02:36 PM (a0IVu)

Sniveling Anal Worm Studies.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 27, 2018 02:43 PM (RD7QR)

53 I don't give a single squirt of piss where this pencil-necked troll doll bottom goes to school.

I just want him to go. Away.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at March 27, 2018 02:43 PM (jjaLl)

54 I saw a tweet claiming David Hogg was one of the students that bullied Nikolas Cruz. If true, this should be headline news everywhere.

Posted by: pete at March 27, 2018 02:43 PM (meg+g)

55 We might hear more about this, but this timeline seems pretty plausible to me, and I think now we just heard a statement out of full context.

I don't care. They would lie and say this regardless. The cry of Fake News is itself Fake News.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 27, 2018 02:43 PM (yQpMk)

56 California schools don't want white dudes, even a liberal douce. Hogg being a good progressive should know this.

His only chance is to come out of the closet as either gay or trans.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at March 27, 2018 02:43 PM (mk7Bj)

57 "David has been rejected by the 4 University of California campuses where
he submitted applications -- UCLA, UCSD, UCSB and UC Irvine. He says
the rejection letters came 2 weeks ago. He has a 4.2 GPA and an SAT
score of 1270."

Aww, poor Hogg. The alligator ate him last.

And I still don't buy the explanation, he came back. His statement that this could not be another mass shooting implies he did not have knowledge of the extent. You'd have to have been under a rock for the last ten hours to not have known it was a mass shooting, at that point. And if it wasn't a "mass shooting," why the rush to get interviews.

Now that realization does not explain that he was not at school, during the shooting. But what it does reveal is his primary motive - in the face of dead and dying classmates (his peers) - his only concern was to get a story, get his 15 minutes of fame. His subsequent actions leave no doubt about that realization and the realization that he is a loathsome individual.

I look forward to hearing about his participation in the ostracizing of Cruz.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 27, 2018 02:44 PM (Dp6qK)

58 He says the rejection letters came 2 weeks ago. He has a 4.2 GPA and an SAT score of 1270.

I'm gonna call BS on both of those. No chance his SATs are that high.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 02:44 PM (39g3+)

59 A lot of colleges in liberal States do not even use the SAT for college entrance anymore because it is 'racist' don't you know.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 02:44 PM (mpXpK)

60 The more Hogg's in the news the better I like Republican's chances in the midterms.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 27, 2018 02:44 PM (4e+hS)

61 That is what I meant. 40 years ago, 1270 was pretty good when the max was 1600. Now 1270 is weak.

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2018 02:44 PM (gbWkA)

62 You mean an SAT score of 1270 doesn't qualify you to dismantle the U.S. Constitution?

Posted by: James Madison and the Philadelphia Convention at March 27, 2018 02:44 PM (E5ZoU)

63 He might identify as Native American. Then he is a sure thing.

I hate when people do that! It demeans their heritage!

Posted by: Elizabeth "Injun Liz" Warren at March 27, 2018 02:44 PM (O5Q3r)

64 You know, if you put some fake eyelashes and rouge on him, he'd be a dead ringer for the Master of Ceremonies from Cabaret.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:45 PM (NWiLs)

65 Sounds more and more like this kid bullied the shooter into acting, in order to boost his own collegiate and career prospects.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2018 02:45 PM (7ZVPa)

66 I thought he was cowering in a closet during the shooting (while three JROTC kids were sacrificing their lives).

Did he make sure he was wearing fresh undies when he returned to campus?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2018 02:45 PM (ptqGC)

67 Oh, I shoulda done some research. The maximum SAT score is back up to 1600. But there's an essay now and I'm sure it hasn't gotten any harder in the past 20 years.

Posted by: Oschisms at March 27, 2018 02:41 PM (Y/y3J)

Yeah. They put the essay in so they could artificially pump up the scores of students they think are the right sorts of minorities.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 02:45 PM (8gDQu)

68 K but you still can't do an iMessage or something

Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at March 27, 2018 02:43 PM (PKrFo)

No, no, it's a FUCKING iMessage. The plain old iMessages are easy. It's the fucking part that is apparently his specialty.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (7UW64)

69 51 30 years ago that was a solid score. Now, not so much. And a 4.2 GPA is crap too,

+++

K but you still can't do an iMessage or something
Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at March 27, 2018 02:43 PM (PKrFo)

Yeah, I'm just an old asshole what don't know nothin'.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (NWiLs)

70 We are back on the 1600 scale, they dropped the stupid writing portion everyone was ignoring.

Posted by: dagny at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (CAKgV)

71 I would be willing to bet a six-pack that this creep will not finish two years at any college he goes to.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (mpXpK)

72 I'm gonna call BS on both of those. No chance his SATs are that high.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 02:44 PM (39g3+)

Average is now about 1500...

This is not the SATs we took...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (NgKpN)

73 64 You know, if you put some fake eyelashes and rouge on him, he'd be a dead ringer for the Master of Ceremonies from Cabaret.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:45 PM (NWiLs)

Wilkommen, Bienvenue, Welcome...

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (RD7QR)

74 That is what I meant. 40 years ago, 1270 was pretty good when the max was 1600. Now 1270 is weak.

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2018 02:44 PM (gbWkA)

In 90, 1360 got you National Merit Scholar Finalist ... which didn't pay much unless your parents worked at a place that offered an endowment.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (DMoow)

75 15 SATs of 1270 are weak.

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2018 02:38 PM (gbWkA)

1270 was weak even when 1600 was a perfect score.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (WDCYi)

76 64 You know, if you put some fake eyelashes and rouge on him, he'd be a dead ringer for the Master of Ceremonies from Cabaret.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:45 PM (NWiLs)

Wilkommen, bienvenue, welcome!

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (7UW64)

77 Cry Hamhock and let slip the Hoggs of Whore.

Fuckstick.

Posted by: LGoPs at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (UThOJ)

78 This whole confusing mess is a direct result of extremely poor editing and rushing things to get the narrative out.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (+Dllb)

79 Pig-boy would be better suited to Evergreen State or Oberlin College. Those are good fascist schools.

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (gbWkA)

80 Being turned down by all those UC schools suggests that its about him being a honkey more than anything.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (39g3+)

81 38
He might identify as Native American. Then he is a sure thing.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:41 PM (7UW64)

Worked for me

Posted by: Elizabeth "Fauxcahontas" Warren at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (jxbfJ)

82

"We might hear more about this, but this timeline seems pretty plausible to me, and I think now we just heard a statement out of full context."

In his video statement, he says he got his camera, jumped on his bike and rode 3 miles to school ...

... he doesn't say back to school, as everyone else would.

Perhaps his statement is ~~slightly out of~~ not presented in full context ... but Hogg is speaking, and to a supportive audience and a friendly interviewer. He, himself, creates the belief that he was not at school at the time of the shooting.

WHo saw Hogg at school during the shooting? Let's exclude his friends, and allies.

How long was the school locked down? Could he have returned home to get his camera, then returned to the school in the time between the end of lockdown and 6:00PM? Where is "6:00PM first mentioned, and by whom?

I get the feeling that someone is trying to backfill Hogg's timeline.

Posted by: Ralph Philips at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (FlRtG)

83 follow up to the David Hogg bullying comment, here's the Gonzalez girl admitting it: https://spectator.org/parkland-students-bullied-shooter/

Posted by: pete at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (meg+g)

84 1270 is his white blood cell count. He has a debilitating case of dumb ass-itis.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (E5ZoU)

85 Porky Hogg will study bridge engineering at Florida Atlantic.

Posted by: mercenary13 at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (uFgd+)

86 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 02:41 PM (8gDQu)

I mean it makes perfect sense to differentitate the kids that are taking real coursework compared to the "CP" courses aka you'll need remedial classes at your JC before you go to college level.

They can't exactly tell the other kids that their A is only worth a 3.0, so you use weighted gpa to reward AP/IB students with an extra point for those classes.

Posted by: Sjg at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (gDSJf)

87 1270 is not impressive, petty "average" for the burbs.

Posted by: dagny at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (CAKgV)

88 I disagree with the criticism of giving extra points for AP classes. There's a big difference between AP class and a lot of the General Ed courses. Why shouldn't taking harder courses be recognized?

Posted by: pep at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (nIsgp)

89 Average SATs are 1500 out of 1600?? That sounds really good to me..are all kids this smart now a days?

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (a0IVu)

90 I'll fight any one of you faggots in The Octagon!

Posted by: David Hogg at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (O5Q3r)

91 No, no, it's a FUCKING iMessage. The plain old iMessages are easy. It's the fucking part that is apparently his specialty.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (7UW64)

Is that when my Lady Friend Texts me ... asking me to come over for the night?

Posted by: Don Q. at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (NgKpN)

92 No, no, it's a FUCKING iMessage. The plain old iMessages are easy. It's the fucking part that is apparently his specialty.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (7UW64)

You're leaving off "old assed people" who can't send "a fucking iMessage."

He'll send his parents and all their friends to the camps first.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (ptqGC)

93 Full Disclosure : Mine was only 1250 out of 1600 (but then, my father and grandparents also said "No College For You"), back in the 90s.

So if 1250 wasn't good enough for college back then, 1270 sure as shit isn't good enough now.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (WDCYi)

94 Heh. I'm glad he got rejected by those schools. He's either experiencing liberal culture first hand and being rejected for being a white male with too much privilege, OR the university staff, while forced to kow tow to the left wing nutjobs publicly, privately are getting wise and are sick to death of the trouble "activists" like he and his fellow travelers bring to their schools, and are actively avoiding that. Imagine having THAT little creep on your campus for 5-7 years, there'd be marches and riots every month. Applications to your school would PLUMMET.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (oyCqX)

95 70 We are back on the 1600 scale, they dropped the stupid writing portion everyone was ignoring.

Posted by: dagny at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (CAKgV)

I can't imagine that anyone at my university was less than 1400, but I suppose there's a shoe for every foot.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (7UW64)

96 In 90, 1360 got you National Merit Scholar Finalist ... which didn't pay much unless your parents worked at a place that offered an endowment.

In '78 it worked the same except (a) that makes you a child, and (ii) I did better.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (fuK7c)

97 Will he still be doing the armband thing?

Really pulls together an outfit.

Better than a corsage.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (EyPfd)

98
I overread David Hogg's statement yesterday. Although he did say he "raced to the school" on his bike in that interview he didn't say he had been home all day before then. Which raises the possibility that he had been at school during the shooting, then left to go home for his camera, and then "raced" back to school.

Boy that makes him look much better. Instead of using that time to assist his classmates like others did he rushed home to get his camera because he saw an opportunity and didn't want a good crisis go to waste. A budding young journalist/activist he is.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (lKyWE)

99 90 I'll fight any one of you faggots in The Octagon!
Posted by: David Hogg at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (O5Q3r)

Son, you wouldn't last 30 seconds, and that's just against an 'ette.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (NWiLs)

100 "Of course that was when the maximum score was 1600."

It is 1600 again. They don't go to 2400 or whatever any more. So Hogg got 1270 out of 1600.

Posted by: Chris M at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (eAZVt)

101 Average SATs are 1500 out of 1600?? That sounds really good to me..are all kids this smart now a days?

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018

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Lake Wobegon has gone national.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (7ZVPa)

102 Weak sauce. I pulled a 1270 in seventh grade.

A 4.2 GPA but a 1270 SAT hints at some pretty serious grade inflation.

Posted by: rstrata at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (suIXo)

103 Imagine having THAT little creep on your campus for 5-7 years, there'd be marches and riots every month. Applications to your school would PLUMMET.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (oyCqX)

I suspect there is a university in Missouri that would take him. I think at this point they would take just about anybody.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (7UW64)

104 I thought the kid was a cock-wrangler.

Doesn't that score diversity points?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (Q4yHo)

105 1270 was weak even when 1600 was a perfect score.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (WDCYi)

The Horde is amazing ... all screwing supermodels, and all super-geniuses.

I gotta" go find a retard board somewhere. Maybe there's a Seven of Clubs HQ out there.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (DMoow)

106 >>He has a 4.2 GPA

that's kinda crap on a 5 point grading scale. sorry kid. you fucked up.

Posted by: x at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (nFwvY)

107 Average SATs are 1500 out of 1600?? That sounds really good to me..are all kids this smart now a days?

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can't you tell ??

Posted by: runner at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (Quntx)

108 Average SATs are 1500 out of 1600?? That sounds really good to me..are all kids this smart now a days?
Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (a0IVu)

If a kid doesn't get at least 1200, it is considered a personal attack by the SAT committee.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (wdmm9)

109 Is that 1270 out of 1600 or 2400? If it is 2400, then his 4.2 GPA is vastly inflated.

If it is out of 1600, that means if Hogg were black or Hispanic, he could get into almost every college in the country on a full scholarship. Even 1200 out of 2400 would get him into almost all colleges, including UCLA.

Posted by: MikeN at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (o/eHL)

110 1270 was weak even when 1600 was a perfect score.
Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (WDCYi)

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In my defense, I was a stoner in HS.

Posted by: Oschisms at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (Y/y3J)

111 1270 was weak even when 1600 was a perfect score.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (WDCYi)

It was respectable. Not outstanding but nothing bad.

Also, it depended on the split. If it was all verbal (say, 780 verbal, 490 math) then there were lots of schools that would fight like crazy over the kid.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (8gDQu)

112 What's a SAT ??

AFAF

Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (VWsDy)

113 Master of Ceremonies from Cabaret.

+++

Joel Gray. Sasha's grampa
heh

Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (PKrFo)

114 99 90 I'll fight any one of you faggots in The Octagon!
Posted by: David Hogg at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (O5Q3r)

Son, you wouldn't last 30 seconds, and that's just against an 'ette.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (NWiLs)

If Jane D'oh doesn't get him, I will.

Pantywaist.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:50 PM (7UW64)

115 so he was recreating the shooting in his videos where he was interviewing the girl and pretending to hide and coaching her about how we need diversity to stop this stuff

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 27, 2018 02:50 PM (DQC26)

116 8 Did Hogg participate in the ostracizing of Nikolas Cruz?
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 27, 2018 02:37 PM (4e+hS)

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It's listed on his college applications as an extra-curricular activity.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 27, 2018 02:50 PM (3ihPq)

117 The way the stock market works:

We might get bad news X soon, I better sell!

*the next day

Ooohh! The stock market went down yesterday! Better buy some bargains!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 27, 2018 02:51 PM (wdmm9)

118 what exactly does he plan to study at college?

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 02:36 PM (a0IVu)

Either Unemployment Studies or Hot Beverage Engineering.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 02:51 PM (rIXu3)

119 If Jane D'oh doesn't get him, I will.

Pantywaist.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:50 PM (7UW64)

Oooh, I'd so love the chance to knock some sense into the little bastard. One hard slap. Across the room.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2018 02:51 PM (ptqGC)

120 He'll send his parents and all their friends to the camps first.

++++

Excellent

Posted by: George Soros at March 27, 2018 02:52 PM (PKrFo)

121 I mean it makes perfect sense to differentitate the kids that are taking real coursework compared to the "CP" courses aka you'll need remedial classes at your JC before you go to college level.

They can't exactly tell the other kids that their A is only worth a 3.0, so you use weighted gpa to reward AP/IB students with an extra point for those classes.

Posted by: Sjg at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (gDSJf)

There are AP exams for kids to show that they have done advanced work. No need to destroy the whole GPA system for a bunch of kids who can't pass AP exams but want to claim they're doing advanced shit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 02:52 PM (8gDQu)

122 Ask Hogg how long his schmekel is . For sure greater than 4.2

Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2018 02:52 PM (VWsDy)

123 we had a tedious sports guy in Dallas who would do his Sunday night sports show in a tuxedo because he was always at some charity event and he would introduce his Scholar Athlete of the Week as having "a 4.3 out of a possible 4.0 GPA".

Posted by: x at March 27, 2018 02:52 PM (nFwvY)

124 Either Unemployment Studies or Hot Beverage Engineering.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 02:51 PM (rIXu3)

Better start with the cold beverages. Not sure he can be trusted to be safe with the hot stuff yet.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:52 PM (7UW64)

125 Average is now about 1500...

This is not the SATs we took...

Oh, ok. That makes more sense. I got just over 1200 and I got pulled into a pretty prestigious college first try. They must have changed the tests or something

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 02:52 PM (39g3+)

126 Hi, David! Maybe we can room together when I get my free ride to MIT!

Posted by: Clock Boy at March 27, 2018 02:52 PM (O5Q3r)

127 Just imagine how woke this little punk is going to be in college.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at March 27, 2018 02:52 PM (nQHw/)

128 Kids take these SAT prep classes now, and score much higher than just going in cold and taking the test. With the prep class they have seen most of the problems already, maybe the exact same problem.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (bT8Z4)

129 Why is it we know the SAT score and GPA of a snot-nosed kid from Florida, but we don't know the SAT score or GPA of our 44th president?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (E5ZoU)

130 take it from me, you din't need a high SAT score to get into the best universities, you just need to be high

Posted by: Bracka Obama at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (Quntx)

131
what exactly does he plan to study at college?

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 02:36 PM (a0IVu)

His navel.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (lKyWE)

132 Watched the video again, this whole thing is starting to smell.

The only thing that makes any sense now is that they edited the heck out of the interview to the point of insanity and left most of it on the cutting room floor as it were.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (+Dllb)

133 114 99 90 I'll fight any one of you faggots in The Octagon!
Posted by: David Hogg at March 27, 2018 02:47 PM (O5Q3r)

How about a crusty old straight redneck ??

Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (VWsDy)

134 They can't exactly tell the other kids that their A is only worth a 3.0, so you use weighted gpa to reward AP/IB students with an extra point for those classes.

Posted by: Sjg

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When I was in HS, we didn't get extra points, we just got college credit. So, I got to not pay for 3-4 classes at university.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (7ZVPa)

135 70 We are back on the 1600 scale, they dropped the stupid writing portion everyone was ignoring.
Posted by: dagny at March 27, 2018 02:46 PM (CAKgV)

Today's SAT is easier than the SAT I took in 198mumble, in a way that's statistically noticeable. There's probably a sliding scale that College Boards keeps that shows you how much it has been dumbed down and I think they probably keep that VERY close to the vest.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (RD7QR)

136 105 The Horde is amazing ... all screwing supermodels, and all super-geniuses.

I gotta" go find a retard board somewhere. Maybe there's a Seven of Clubs HQ out there.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (DMoow)

I'm well below average in every way (I'm absolute garbage at pretty much everything), so yeah, I kind of expect everybody to be significantly better than me at everything.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (XMDuf)

137 Oooh, I'd so love the chance to knock some sense into the little bastard. One hard slap. Across the room.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2018 02:51 PM (ptqGC)

THIS is how you raise a Marine.

My 12 year old is looking at the Navy. He wants to be a Blue Angel. Aim high, little man.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (7UW64)

138 He organized it?

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Hogg organized nothing. This entire propaganda machine was constructed long ago by professionals in anticipation of the next shooting. I suspect that altogether it's cost millions.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (3ihPq)

139 125 Average is now about 1500...

This is not the SATs we took...

Oh, ok. That makes more sense. I got just over 1200 and I got pulled into a pretty prestigious college first try. They must have changed the tests or something
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 02:52 PM (39g3+)

They've watered down the standardized testing bigly since we old assholes took them.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (NWiLs)

140 23 David Hogg is not the right color for easy admission to liberal State colleges and he is from out of State which makes it even worse.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 02:39 PM (mpXpK)

Actually that's not true. UC LOVES out of state people because they pay that good good out of state tuition (which subsidizes free tuition for our friends visiting from south of the border).

UC loves overseas students even more, for the same reason.

UC makes up excuses not to accept in-state white students, because they pay the least. UC already has their parents' money, so pffft to them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (rIXu3)

141 119 If Jane D'oh doesn't get him, I will.

Pantywaist.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:50 PM (7UW64)

Oooh, I'd so love the chance to knock some sense into the little bastard. One hard slap. Across the room.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2018 02:51 PM (ptqGC)

/Picks up his gauntlet...

I prefer... Rapiers... at Dawn...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 27, 2018 02:54 PM (NgKpN)

142 Ace, you forget what he would bring to the leftist cause:
1) Stupidity- and a hefty amount.
2) Blind Loyalty to the leftist causes in toto.
3) Quasi-Celebrity.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 27, 2018 02:54 PM (ycWCI)

143 He has a 4.2 GPA and an SAT score of 1270.
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My son took the SAT this spring for the first time and scored 1170. He is not a 4.2 GPA kid. I don't think 1270 is all that much to brag about. That's roughly where I scored forty or more years ago. Makes me wonder about the efficacy of this High School's grading curve?

Normally, a 4.2 GPA student should be scoring in the 1400s not 1200s.

Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 02:54 PM (2LelM)

144 My SAT's were hilariously lopsided, like 900 on English/written and 300 on math. I just didn't even begin to know what most of the questions were in the math portion.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 02:54 PM (39g3+)

145 He's not going to be the biggest big mouth on campus. They'll be plenty of competition for that honor at whatever liberal institution he chooses. I suspect there's lots of jockeying for on-campus celebrity status.

Posted by: Tuna at March 27, 2018 02:54 PM (jm1YL)

146 The Horde is amazing ... all screwing supermodels, and all super-geniuses.

Yeah...so?

Posted by: tu3031 at March 27, 2018 02:54 PM (O5Q3r)

147 1270 isn't that good a score these days. They've rejiggered the scoring scale several times since around 1996.

And 4.2 gpa? What amazing grade inflation. My valedictorian was only 3.9 and went to Harvard.

Posted by: wooga at March 27, 2018 02:39 PM (n5VsB)

Well, some high school honor programs work on a 5 point scale. I graduated with a 4.67, but didn't do well on the SAT way back when, so my options were slightly limited.

Posted by: Sponge at March 27, 2018 02:54 PM (xttKs)

148 UC makes up excuses not to accept in-state white students, because they pay the least. UC already has their parents' money, so pffft to them.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (rIXu3)

Yup.... I live right next to UC Merced...

LOTS of Foreign students....

Posted by: Don Q. at March 27, 2018 02:55 PM (NgKpN)

149 I think Hogg's best days are already behind him. He's simply a useful short-term tool for the gun-grabbers...like Sandra Fluke was for another section of the Leftist mob.

Posted by: Gref at March 27, 2018 02:55 PM (AMIL/)

150
"Never let a crisis go to waste" incarnate.

Posted by: ArthurK at March 27, 2018 02:55 PM (OunYr)

151 143 He has a 4.2 GPA and an SAT score of 1270.
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My son took the SAT this spring for the first time and scored 1170. He is not a 4.2 GPA kid. I don't think 1270 is all that much to brag about. That's roughly where I scored forty or more years ago. Makes me wonder about the efficacy of this High School's grading curve?

Normally, a 4.2 GPA student should be scoring in the 1400s not 1200s.
Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 02:54 PM (2LelM)

Even in my day, a 4.2 student scoring anything less than 1500 would be an absolute lie.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (XMDuf)

152 It is 1600 again. They don't go to 2400 or whatever any more. So Hogg got 1270 out of 1600.

Posted by: Chris M at March 27, 2018 02:48 PM (eAZVt)

...

Oh good.

That means I can start dunking on my kids again about their SAT scores.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (yL25O)

153 1270 is respectable, the average is nowhere near 1500, don't know how anyone got that impression.

The grades would mostly be B to A range, possibly mostly As and a few Cs or Ds, assuming a full AP load.

UCLA and UCSD declining is not a surprise, they are very selective.

UC Irvine is somewhat surprising, but it's a not bottom of the barrel like Riverside, so makes sense if the overall application was pretty weak.

Posted by: Sjg at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (gDSJf)

154 139 125 Average is now about 1500...

This is not the SATs we took...

Oh, ok. That makes more sense. I got just over 1200 and I got pulled into a pretty prestigious college first try. They must have changed the tests or something
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 02:52 PM (39g3+)

They've watered down the standardized testing bigly since we old assholes took them.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (NWiLs)

They definitely have watered down the SAT dramatically. It was rare for anyone to get 700 on any part, and practically unheard for someone to get 800. It was the sort of thing that would be written up in a newspaper.

Nowadays, an 800 SAT is not that uncommon.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (rIXu3)

155 Fun fact. When Robert Gates served as president of Texas A&M one of his first accomplishments was to close the journalism college.

He said all they did was criticize the university, it's traditions, the administration, the students and the alumni.

Posted by: DanMan at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (XTiHL)

156 When I was in HS, we didn't get extra points, we just got college credit. So, I got to not pay for 3-4 classes at university.

I AP-ed out of one and tested out of five and still graduated late. There was a fraternity involved.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (fuK7c)

157 Way back in the dark ages I did alright on the math section, kicked ass on the verbal section. Just the way my brain is wired I suppose.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (NWiLs)

158 GPA above 4.0 comes from AP classes. The classes might not be hard, but the test is standardized and it is hard.

1270 out of 1600 (the norm) is better than average.

Posted by: spongeworthy at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (35Slc)

159 stupid

Posted by: George at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (Rar33)

160 This site -- Politifact, which I don't normally trust, but I'm going to credit it as accurate for now in this case -- says Hogg got to the school with his camera at 6 pm

Did Politifact just copy CBS, or did the watch the video?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (z8tEv)

161
The Horde is amazing ... all screwing supermodels, and all super-geniuses.

When we get our picture on the cover of Forbes we'll pay a porn star to spank us with it

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (lKyWE)

162 And this is where the student march founders. In the next month the weather gets better, end of school activities commence, and everyone scatters on their own way. By late August there will be something new and this guy will be as wanted around CNN as that Black Lives Matter guy from the Ferguson protests is wanted.

Old what's-his-name...Rerun McDonald, or something like that.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (0QYMt)

163 KTY is s junior so I should know this
SAT is just math and (reading +writing) now 800+800 for amac perfect score of 1600
Essay is optional and is scored separately, 2-8 in 3categories

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (jfUum)

164 "Average is now about 1500..."

This is obsolete information. It was changed back to a 1600 point scale in 2016.

Posted by: Chris M at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (eAZVt)

165 I think the only break we got was a half point for a plus. Nothing extra for AP classes.

Lots of kids would duck the AP to try and pump up the GPA.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (DMoow)

166 Hogg doesn't realize it yet, but like those on the football team who aren't going to amount to anything after HS, he's peaked.

And I bet he's not even banging the hot cheerleaders.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (mk7Bj)

167 I'm not judging Hogg's SATs based on his apparent intellect, its hard to judge that since he's just regurgitating lines he's been fed. I'm judging it based on his study habits and academic zeal.

The guy is blowing off classes constantly now and shrugs about it, he doesn't care. Even by my senior year it would have bothered me to miss even one class like that. He's no student, or academic, and that means he's not any great SAT material.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (39g3+)

168 Whooooole lot of 29 year olds here who took the SAT waaaay back when.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (yL25O)

169 140 Actually that's not true. UC LOVES out of state
people because they pay that good good out of state tuition (which
subsidizes free tuition for our friends visiting from south of the
border).

UC loves overseas students even more, for the same reason.

UC makes up excuses not to accept in-state white students, because
they pay the least. UC already has their parents' money, so pffft to
them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (rIXu3)

I don't think colleges get most of their money from tuition anymore. They get it from the government (spit), businesses, and rich people endowments.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (mpXpK)

170 128 Kids take these SAT prep classes now, and score much higher than just going in cold and taking the test. With the prep class they have seen most of the problems already, maybe the exact same problem.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (bT8Z4)

This floors me. So much anxiety.

I walked in a little late for the SAT, after a night spent partying and driving the strip. I rolled out of there figuring I'd have to take it again. Got a lovely pair of scores and never looked back. The difference, I guess, is that we were actually taught something in school besides how to put a rubber on a cucumber. The test didn't even ask about that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (7UW64)

171 136
105 The Horde is amazing ... all screwing supermodels, and all super-geniuses.

I gotta" go find a retard board somewhere. Maybe there's a Seven of Clubs HQ out there.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (DMoow)

Try Hot Air.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (oyCqX)

172 >>>>>
Kids take these SAT prep classes now, and score much higher than just
going in cold and taking the test. With the prep class they have seen
most of the problems already, maybe the exact same problem.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM
.
.
.They do that with the ASVAB tests for the Military and it usually comes back and bites them in the a$$ when they "qualify" for a School they shouldn't be in and get dropped for Academics.

The drop out rate goes way up for people who take those prep classes and tests. We called it teaching for the test when I was doing testing at RTC Great lakes, and yes we could tell.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (+Dllb)

173 Listening to you morons talk about the SAT is pathetic.

It's like when old people are trying figure out iMessage and I have to say give me the f*cking thing and fix it in like one f*cking minute.

You old, white people are too damn stupid to figure out the SAT so we millenials like me just have to smash it for you because you are too f*cking dumb.

Posted by: David Hogg at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (Q4yHo)

174 Why is it we know the SAT score and GPA of a
snot-nosed kid from Florida, but we don't know the SAT score or GPA of
our 44th president?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (E5ZoU)

Excellent question!

Posted by: LGoPs at March 27, 2018 02:58 PM (UThOJ)

175 Even in my day, a 4.2 student scoring anything less than 1500 would be an absolute lie.
Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (XMDuf)

1500+ should be straight A students, aka 4.5-4.8 weighted gpas.

Posted by: Sjg at March 27, 2018 02:58 PM (gDSJf)

176 Sadly, I'm certain his scores and university choice hardly matters. Leftism is it's own career path and some patron will show up shortly. He will attend a great school and be given good grades and be assured of a comfy life

Posted by: George Soros at March 27, 2018 02:58 PM (PKrFo)

177
Hogg organized nothing. This entire propaganda
machine was constructed long ago by professionals in anticipation of the
next shooting. I suspect that altogether it's cost millions.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (3ihPq)

They trotted things out the same old way, and they fired up the dispirited Right in the same old way.
Thanks for the help guys.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Sonobi With Purchase of Grumbling Gadgets at the Outrage Outlet! at March 27, 2018 02:58 PM (0QYMt)

178 UC Irvine is somewhat surprising, but it's a not bottom of the barrel like Riverside, so makes sense if the overall application was pretty weak.
Posted by: Sjg at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (gDSJf)

Riverside used to be the bottom of the barrel, the place where UC tried to shunt white kids to cheer up the lousy performance of the ... uh ... diverse student body there.

Now UC Merced has edged out Riverside as the bottom of the barrel.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 02:58 PM (rIXu3)

179 And I bet he's not even banging the hot cheerleaders.
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (mk7Bj)

...

His bones look dangerously brittle, so I bet he's strictly limited on strenuous activity.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 27, 2018 02:58 PM (yL25O)

180 One account said that he was in a different building and was hiding in a closet as the gunfire was going off.

I can't really blame him for that.

I can blame him for speaking like he was in imminent danger. That's saying there was some danger, but it didn't approach his position.

That he was afraid, I have no doubt.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 27, 2018 02:59 PM (0ogQG)

181 Kids take these SAT prep classes now, and score much higher than just

going in cold and taking the test. With the prep class they have seen

most of the problems already, maybe the exact same problem.

I took mine hungover. I forget what I got, but I got into college.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 27, 2018 02:59 PM (O5Q3r)

182 Also the SAT is no longer right minus wrong so guessing is risk free

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at March 27, 2018 02:59 PM (jfUum)

183 I pulled a solid B average in high school because I figured out that I didn't need to try very hard, so why do it? B was good, and A was pointlessly more work for no particular benefit.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 02:59 PM (39g3+)

184 168 Whooooole lot of 29 year olds here who took the SAT waaaay back when.
Posted by: TexasDan

some of us are so 29 we took the ACT

Posted by: x at March 27, 2018 02:59 PM (nFwvY)

185 Nobody uses the ACT anymore? That's what I took. Of course that was back, way back, in the day. We used to have a choice. ACT or SAT. I took the ACT because it was scheduled first and I wanted to get it over with. Can't remember what my score was but didn't have a problem getting accepted.

Posted by: Tuna at March 27, 2018 02:59 PM (jm1YL)

186 184 168 Whooooole lot of 29 year olds here who took the SAT waaaay back when.
Posted by: TexasDan

some of us are so 29 we took the ACT
Posted by: x at March 27, 2018 02:59 PM (nFwvY)

Same here.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 03:00 PM (NWiLs)

187 David "The Twink" Hogg can go suck off another rando at truck stop and cry me a river

I got a 1510 and was turned down from MIT and Duke

1270 is top of the pleb tier. Means he's got an IQ of around 130. Smart enough to think he's smart, but not smart enough to be top in his field.

He would make an elite level cop and detective at that IQ, but he's gonna want to be something more "prestigious" and he'll end up being mediocre at whatever it is.

He didn't get into those schools because he isn't smart enough. End of story.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:00 PM (z8Nrh)

188 A score above 1500 puts you in the tip 1% of test takers.

Posted by: spongeworthy at March 27, 2018 03:00 PM (35Slc)

189 175 Even in my day, a 4.2 student scoring anything less than 1500 would be an absolute lie.
Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (XMDuf)

1500+ should be straight A students, aka 4.5-4.8 weighted gpas.
Posted by: Sjg at March 27, 2018 02:58 PM (gDSJf)

Yep. I hate this inclusion of AP scores in the GPA. Used to be getting a 4.0 at any decent high school was a rare achievement. Now it's pffft, with AP courses plumping GPAs. AP course should be reported separately, IMO.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:00 PM (rIXu3)

190 You realize this contraversy would be easily set to rest if he discloses his cell phone records--they can track where you are, and when.

Posted by: artemis at March 27, 2018 03:00 PM (AwPyG)

191 My son did not the the SAT prep test. I wasn't about to to pay $600 for that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2018 03:00 PM (tpDAe)

192 some of us are so 29 we took the ACT

Posted by: x at March 27, 2018 02:59 PM (nFwvY)

Yup! I took both.

Posted by: Gref at March 27, 2018 03:00 PM (AMIL/)

193 Yeah, back in '81, when I graduated high school, I was in a class of 35, with six National Merit Scholars (one was me) and 11 semi finalists. (Small private prep school. The class was a statistical anomaly.) I was third in the class with a 3.73, and clepped out of three semesters of college. But I wasn't an activist organizer, I just volunteered in the neonatal unit at the hospital for four years, sang in competition choirs, played competition piano, and three sports a year. So yeah, I'm thinking that the 4.2 is inflated, and the score is mediocre, and that school systems need to be overhauled to actually teach kids something they need, like math, reading and how to write a proper sentence. No emojies or anything. Maybe even in cursive.

But that's too hard, and makes them feel threatened, I guess. God help us that our nation has come to this.

Posted by: moki at March 27, 2018 03:00 PM (V+V48)

194 185 Nobody uses the ACT anymore? That's what I took. Of course that was back, way back, in the day. We used to have a choice. ACT or SAT. I took the ACT because it was scheduled first and I wanted to get it over with. Can't remember what my score was but didn't have a problem getting accepted.
Posted by: Tuna at March 27, 2018 02:59 PM (jm1YL)

I took both.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 03:00 PM (NWiLs)

195 And I bet he's not even banging the hot cheerleaders.
---------------------
My guess is he's getting head from the bald headed chick. Then he has to listen to hear complain about the patriarchy and shit.

Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:01 PM (2LelM)

196 Ummmm, isn't there a little problem with the time stamps on his interview footage? Thought I saw a report the time stamps say around 10am, when the morning fire drill was taking place.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 27, 2018 03:01 PM (gQQ9b)

197 Busting out the circles on the clay tablet was tough back when I took the SAT. No idea how Vic did it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 03:01 PM (DMoow)

198 'The Horde is amazing ... all screwing supermodels, and all super-geniuses.'

Hard to believe we are all only 29 years old.

Right?

Posted by: Bridgette the Midget at March 27, 2018 03:01 PM (EyPfd)

199 175 Even in my day, a 4.2 student scoring anything less than 1500 would be an absolute lie.
Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (XMDuf)

1500+ should be straight A students, aka 4.5-4.8 weighted gpas.
Posted by: Sjg at March 27, 2018 02:58 PM (gDSJf)

I don't think the district I was in weighed AP courses that high.

I know for a fact AP English classes weren't weighted at all. Science classes were, but they definitely weren't on a 5 point scale.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 03:01 PM (XMDuf)

200 Get off me, you short size sock

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2018 03:01 PM (EyPfd)

201 197 Busting out the circles on the clay tablet was tough back when I took the SAT. No idea how Vic did it.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 03:01 PM (DMoow)

Chiseling the answers into stone tablets was a bitch.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 03:02 PM (NWiLs)

202 some of us are so 29 we took the ACT

Posted by: x at March 27, 2018 02:59 PM (nFwvY)

That was mostly a West Coast thing, from what I recall.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 03:02 PM (8gDQu)

203 Sock off

Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at March 27, 2018 03:02 PM (PKrFo)

204 some of us are so 29 we took the ACT
Posted by: x at March 27, 2018 02:59 PM (nFwvY)

Ah, the ACT.

1) Mostly A
2) More A than B.
3) Mostly B.
4) More B than C.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 27, 2018 03:02 PM (ycWCI)

205 ''Busting out the circles on the clay tablet was tough back when I took the SAT. No idea how Vic did it.''

Chisels instead of No. 2 pencils.

Posted by: Tuna at March 27, 2018 03:02 PM (jm1YL)

206 They are falling apart:

"Cameron Kasky, an organizer of the pro gun control March for Our Lives
movement, tweeted Monday night that he won't debate Kashuv, a pro Second
Amendment voice, following a tweet Kashuv seemingly disapproved of."

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 27, 2018 03:02 PM (+Dllb)

207 Come on ACT, make a fricking decision like a Man.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 27, 2018 03:02 PM (ycWCI)

208 Lots of kids would duck the AP to try and pump up the GPA.

Posted by: ScoggDog

--

I did the opposite, the AP is what got me into university, and I saved money and time on the classes they gave me credit for, so win-win.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2018 03:02 PM (7ZVPa)

209 Pay no attention to these rubes, David. They said some of the same things about me when I went over to Pockeestawn and killed Bin Laden...

Posted by: Ex-President Cock Curious at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (O5Q3r)

210 Back when I went to school, we had trial by single combat. It was all pass/fail.

Posted by: Archer at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (gbWkA)

211 the SAT is for pantywaists

Posted by: x at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (nFwvY)

212 Also, there was a period where they bumped the SAT to being out of 2400, instead of 1600.

It is now back to the traditional out of 1600 again.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (z8Nrh)

213 I give UCLA a lot of grief but their medical program is top notch and the pediatric unit at least, is just amazing. But I doubt this Hogg wanker was applying for med school.

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (a0IVu)

214 "...but he's not sure what he'll do after graduating."

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (y87Qq)

215 I keep reading ACT as AtC and wondering what you guys are saying about her.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (fuK7c)

216 A score above 1500 puts you in the tip 1% of test takers.
Posted by: spongeworthy at March 27, 2018 03:00 PM

An wre plomis onry put tip in!

Posted by: China at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (ctuyM)

217 I walked in a little late for the SAT, after a night spent partying and driving the strip. I rolled out of there figuring I'd have to take it again. Got a lovely pair of scores and never looked back. The difference, I guess, is that we were actually taught something in school besides how to put a rubber on a cucumber. The test didn't even ask about that.z"

Reminds me of senior year, college, roommate was all big about going into business school MBA, had to take the GMAT. So I said sure, always did good on standardized tests, I'll take it with you (even though I had no interest in grad school) He studied day and night for a week, I partied all night before and rolled in there hungover.

Of course I outscored him. he was pissed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (k1TUh)

218 174 Why is it we know the SAT score and GPA of a
snot-nosed kid from Florida, but we don't know the SAT score or GPA of
our 44th president?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 27, 2018 02:53 PM (E5ZoU)

Excellent question!

Posted by: LGoPs at March 27, 2018 02:58 PM (UThOJ)

This. + 1 million.

Posted by: moki at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (V+V48)

219 When I was 17, all my friends were worried about getting into this college or that school. I was just anxious to get to 18 so I could get my passport to go to Europe to buy antiques. I think that kids would be better off if they followed their dreams and their talent. Some need to go to college, some don't. I was always told that school was to learn how to learn. I could learn just fine without it

Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (VWsDy)

220 I ain't 29, I'm 52 and took the SATs in 1983. I worked long and hard to get this age and this white hair, I'm not ashamed of it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:04 PM (39g3+)

221 I don't think colleges get most of their money from
tuition anymore. They get it from the government (spit), businesses, and
rich people endowments.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (mpXpK)

College sports programs earn those schools tons of money, and garner lots of attention and funding from rich alumni. Sports absolutely rule the modern campus. That's why Johnny Quarterback has underclassmen doing his homework for him, and is driving a brand new lexus to practice every day....And that's also why a college player can beat his girlfriend into a coma and the coach can molest as many children as he wants to, and both will still get off scot free and be on the field, smiling, every Saturday.The corruption is staggering.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 27, 2018 03:04 PM (oyCqX)

222 The hell of it was back in the old days the slide rules were stone and weighed 150 pounds so the physics problems were a 'stone cold bitch'.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 03:04 PM (mpXpK)

223 He's WRONG about guns.
He's talking about guns.
Therefore he's not worth listening too.

Also Bloomberg and Reuters should've been anti-trusted into pieces long ago.

Posted by: DaveA at March 27, 2018 03:04 PM (FhXTo)

224 195 My guess is he's getting head from the bald headed chick. Then he has to listen to hear complain about the patriarchy and shit.
Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:01 PM (2LelM)

Backwards. He's giving head to the shaved headed "chick"

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 27, 2018 03:04 PM (gQQ9b)

225 Does the FBI have a college?

Posted by: Under Fire at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (r9UYA)

226 This kid totally wasted his parents money on applying to colleges when he doesn't even know what he wants to study.

UCLA, all majors, great standings
UCSD, USSB, have most majors, but highly sought after party schools
UCI less # of majors (i.e. check to see if they offer specialty classes in what you want to do)
Cal Poly, engineering/technical
CS San Marcos (not much except business or nursing IIRC)

Why did he waste $300+ on applications if he doesn't even know what to study?

Typical leftist, no responsibility with money.

Posted by: scott_t at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (xGZ+b)

227 He studied day and night for a week, I partied all night before and rolled in there hungover.

Cramming is idiotic. Its wise to skim over and review some stuff, but if you don't know it by then, you won't learn it in the last 12 hours.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (39g3+)

228 They included the "writing" portion in the SAT in an attempt to interject a subjective element. The problem for a lot of AA students is there is no subjective grading.
It didn't help much

Posted by: artemis at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (AwPyG)

229 Double major: Marxism AND Socialism

He'll CLEP all those classes, get his "degree" in ~~journalism~~ Advanced BullShit Studies in six months and be on Progda's evening news as an anchor within a year.

Hide and watch. It's what they do with good little apparatchiks who can spout the Marxist propaganda without puking.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (GdWl+)

230 220 I ain't 29, I'm 52 and took the SATs in 1983. I worked long and hard to get this age and this white hair, I'm not ashamed of it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:04 PM (39g3+)

Yup... I'm 58... I've earned every damn scar...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (NgKpN)

231 There is definitely leeway for a foreign exchange student, such as myself, when applying to top universities; there is flexibility you know, an understanding of our plight as foreigners, english as a second language and all that...

Posted by: Bracka Obama at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (Quntx)

232 ''College sports programs earn those schools tons of money, and garner lots of attention and funding from rich alumni. Sports absolutely rule the modern campus.''

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Brutus Buckeye at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (jm1YL)

233 Trying to figure the Mean on the SAT is troublesome given the dumb kids don't even take the test. I would certainly prefer a IQ test that measures capacity over a test that measure absorption and retention of stuff. If we did that kids could just interview with employers straight out of HS and find their niche much quicker and easily. Colleges have become a really expensive four year pre-interview exercise. Its basically Kafkaesque.

Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (2LelM)

234 Does the FBI have a college?

Posted by: Under Fire at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (r9UYA)

They lease space at McDonald's Burger University.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (8gDQu)

235 180
One account said that he was in a different building and was hiding in a closet as the gunfire was going off.

I can't really blame him for that.

I can blame him for speaking like he was in imminent danger. That's saying there was some danger, but it didn't approach his position.

That he was afraid, I have no doubt.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 27, 2018 02:59 PM (0ogQG)

This. Like I said, I am not saying he was not there. But the way they are selling this as some sort of survivor's story (Shut up. You can't question a survivor.), it makes the inquiries and requests for explanations and consistency absolutely pertinent and proper.

I am calling shenanigans, still.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (Dp6qK)

236 >>>>>
Ummmm, isn't there a little problem with the time stamps on his
interview footage? Thought I saw a report the time stamps say around
10am, when the morning fire drill was taking place.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 27, 2018 03:01 PM
.
.
.There was a video circulating around that showed the time stamp issues but I suspect that was fake. I don't see it anymore.

They were claiming he was doing the filming during the drill and not during the actual shooting taking the video for dramatic effect because he wants to be a super journalist.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (+Dllb)

237 219
When I was 17, all my friends were worried about getting into this
college or that school. I was just anxious to get to 18 so I could get
my passport to go to Europe to buy antiques. I think that kids would be
better off if they followed their dreams and their talent. Some need to
go to college, some don't. I was always told that school was to learn
how to learn. I could learn just fine without it

Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (VWsDy)

When I was 17 the biggest worry was getting drafted.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (mpXpK)

238

I'm beginning to wonder if David Cocksucker Hogg wasnt the one who PURPOSELY AGITATED Nikolas Cruz into doing it.

Posted by: Soothie at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (jdPh/)

239 So what the shaved head girl actually say about bullying Cruz? She admitted it? Justified it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (tpDAe)

240 'I ain't 29, I'm 52 and took the...'

Hey youngster.

My lawn.

Kindly see your way off of it.

We're doing my 30th birthday outside, and I want it to look good.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (EyPfd)

241 some of us are so 29 we took the ACT

Posted by: x at March 27, 2018 02:59 PM (nFwvY)

Took both, mostly because it was there. Why not? Suppose one scored well and the other did not?

Anyway, SAT was not all that difficult, although there were a few questions I just didn't answer. Wrong answers used to count against your score, so not answering if you were unsure was the wise way to go.

I did fine. Most kids who were really headed to college did fine. The rest either didn't try or didn't do so well, and went to community college or some such.

Either way, taking a bunch of prep just makes it a false test. How much of the prep do you suppose stays with them? Not much.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (7UW64)

242
It's like when old people are trying figure out
iMessage and I have to say give me the f*cking thing and fix it in like
one f*cking minute.

You old, white people are too damn stupid to figure out the SAT so
we millenials like me just have to smash it for you because you are too
f*cking dumb.

Posted by: David Hogg at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (Q4yHo)

You left off "ASSED" you little twit. "OLD ASSED PEOPLE."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (ptqGC)

243 For a guy who got accepted in a buncha schools he sure sounded like he wasn't getting turned down everywhere on twitter. Looking for sympathy, bad communicator, or TMZ is full of crap?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (39g3+)

244 220 I ain't 29, I'm 52 and took the SATs in 1983. I worked long and hard to get this age and this white hair, I'm not ashamed of it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:04 PM (39g3+)

I kinda wish my hair would go white. At 66, I look a little weird having blond hair.

Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2018 03:07 PM (VWsDy)

245 Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2018 03:02 PM (7ZVPa)

Between taking college classes while in HS, and passing a few AP tests, the WOPR daughter almost got out of an entire year of college.

The SAT is a mess due to Asian grinds simply prepping for the test.

Posted by: WOPR (With Full Auto Nuclear Ability) at March 27, 2018 03:07 PM (WVeiZ)

246 Hogg is on track to succeed Obama as "The Greatest Gun Salesman of All Time."

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:07 PM (7uYFy)

247 The hell of it was back in the old days the slide
rules were stone and weighed 150 pounds so the physics problems were a
'stone cold bitch'.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 03:04 PM

You had slide rules? Luxury!

Posted by: Archimedes at March 27, 2018 03:07 PM (ctuyM)

248 They definitely have watered down the SAT dramatically. It was rare for anyone to get 700 on any part, and practically unheard for someone to get 800. It was the sort of thing that would be written up in a newspaper.
Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 02:56 PM (rIXu3)

---

I did so-so on the math, but I got a perfect on the verbal (for a total of 1340/1600). No write-up for me

I think you pretty much need a perfect all-around score for anyone to notice.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 27, 2018 03:07 PM (AzW6q)

249 I did the opposite, the AP is what got me into university, and I saved money and time on the classes they gave me credit for, so win-win.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2018 03:02 PM (7ZVPa)

About halfway through ... I just didn't care enough to game the system.

The Free Money just wasn't out there back then. Got half-rides to the typical places ... Purdue, Rose Hulman. Got mail from others ... so what. Couldn't afford any of it.

It was going to be GI Bill - one way or another. Got a full ride from Cut Rate U at the 11th Hour. If it wasn't for that - would not have went to college at all.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 03:07 PM (DMoow)

250 "diversity"= divisiveness

Posted by: JoshO at March 27, 2018 03:07 PM (QxXRY)

251 Anyone want to settle a lifelong dispute?

Buddy and I took SATs and scored indentically, xx10.

I was perfectly happy, he retook the test and got xx60.

Fine. Later we would also score an identical x80 on the GMAT.

My contention is that we tied, because same results on the first test. His is that he wins because he improved on the second test.

What sayeth the Horde?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 03:07 PM (fuK7c)

252 Hoggie was hoping for a weight lifting scholarship from an all girls school.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 27, 2018 03:08 PM (7qnb5)

253 Like I said, I am not saying he was not there"

Which is different than him claiming to have been there without some sort of proof.

It's just an assertion, and can be dismissed as such.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 27, 2018 03:08 PM (7LY+6)

254 So what the shaved head girl actually say about bullying Cruz? She admitted it? Justified it?

Not admitted bullying. She shrieked that she ostracized him because he was a Terrible Person(c) "you didn't know this kid!!!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:08 PM (39g3+)

255 So he went back to school to interview all the thousands of students who weren't at school anymore?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at March 27, 2018 03:08 PM (ks6bw)

256 When I was 17 the biggest worry was getting drafted.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (mpXpK)

You know you could pay people to take your place. Fenelon Spouse's great, great etc, Grandfather was a naturalized immigrant , a stand in for some rich dude during the Civil War . ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2018 03:08 PM (tpDAe)

257 weren't there gunshots going off during the "closet" interview?

Posted by: artemis at March 27, 2018 03:08 PM (AwPyG)

258 227
He studied day and night for a week, I partied all night before and rolled in there hungover.

Cramming is idiotic. Its wise to skim over and review some stuff, but if you don't know it by then, you won't learn it in the last 12 hours.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (39g3+)

I am living proof that you can cram. I crammed almost every exam in my educational and professional career.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 27, 2018 03:08 PM (Dp6qK)

259 All this talk of SATs has me more curious than ever to see Choom Boy's college transcripts.

No one here believes for a moment he was the sharpest tool in the shed.

I totally believe he got into Occidental registering as a foreign student. Indonesia.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2018 03:08 PM (ptqGC)

260 >>>>>When I was 17, all my friends were worried about getting into this

college or that school. I was just anxious to get to 18 so I could get

my passport to go to Europe to buy antiques. I think that kids would be

better off if they followed their dreams and their talent. Some need to

go to college, some don't. I was always told that school was to learn

how to learn. I could learn just fine without it

Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (VWsDy)

When I was 17 the biggest worry was getting drafted.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM
.
.
.When I was 17 my biggest worry was getting laid.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 27, 2018 03:08 PM (+Dllb)

261 It's like when old people are trying figure out
iMessage and I have to say give me the f*cking thing and fix it in like
one f*cking minute.
-------------------------------------------
Today's generation mistakes mastery of social media as intelligence and experience.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:09 PM (7uYFy)

262 242, Jane, did that little weasel say that?

Posted by: moki at March 27, 2018 03:09 PM (V+V48)

263 239 So what the shaved head girl actually say about bullying Cruz? She admitted it? Justified it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

she demonstrated it

Posted by: x at March 27, 2018 03:09 PM (nFwvY)

264 228 They included the "writing" portion in the SAT in an attempt to interject a subjective element. The problem for a lot of AA students is there is no subjective grading.
It didn't help much
--------------------
That was a surprise watching my son prepare for the test. We never had it. Just four sections of multiple choice questions. He is a very good writer but he says he didn't ace the essay portion. I have no idea what weight the essay carries in the total score.

Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:09 PM (2LelM)

265 >>>233 Trying to figure the Mean on the SAT is troublesome given the dumb kids don't even take the test. I would certainly prefer a IQ test that measures capacity over a test that measure absorption and retention of stuff. If we did that kids could just interview with employers straight out of HS and find their niche much quicker and easily. Colleges have become a really expensive four year pre-interview exercise. Its basically Kafkaesque.
Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (2LelM)
_______
The SAT is an IQ test. It's not the best IQ test, but it's good enough.

You can look up tables for conversation rates online.

Also - The mean SAT isn't a useful number because very few exceptionally unintelligent people take the SAT

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:09 PM (z8Nrh)

266 What sayeth the Horde?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 03:07 PM (fuK7c)

Whose wife is hotter?

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at March 27, 2018 03:09 PM (mk7Bj)

267 According to the interwebs, the average SAT score today is about 1050 out of 1600. Pretty close to what it was a couple of decades ago.

Anything over 1200 puts you in the top 20%.

But that won't get a white boy into UCLA, even if he'll spring for out-of-state tuition.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 27, 2018 03:09 PM (0jtPF)

268 "What sayeth the Horde?"

African or European tests?

Laden, or unladen?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2018 03:09 PM (EyPfd)

269 Not admitted bullying. She shrieked that she ostracized him because he was a Terrible Person(c) "you didn't know this kid!!!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:08 PM (39g3+)

-

She was reading it off of a script, though. Bullying doesn't sound as fancy.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at March 27, 2018 03:09 PM (ks6bw)

270 ''When I was 17 the biggest worry was getting drafted.''

Oh boy, indeed it was. Height of the Vietnam War that's all guys thought about. Then came the lottery. Freak out time.

Posted by: Tuna at March 27, 2018 03:10 PM (jm1YL)

271
My contention is that we tied, because same results on the first test. His is that he wins because he improved on the second test.

What sayeth the Horde?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 03:07 PM (fuK7c)

There's an automatic, self-assessed 100 point penalty for taking the SAT twice. The only score that really counts is the first one - minus the 100 points for a lame-ass second attempt.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 03:10 PM (8gDQu)

272

SAT score of 1270 isnt so hot. It tells me that his 4.2 gpa is inflated, probably because he says all the right things to please his leftist cocksucker teachers.

Posted by: Soothie at March 27, 2018 03:10 PM (jdPh/)

273 This little shit needs to be punched in the nose, the same way I was when I spouted-off about things I didn't know.

When you get cockyaround Real Men?

...you get taught a lesson.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 27, 2018 03:10 PM (Ckg4U)

274 >>>I am living proof that you can cram. I crammed almost every exam in my educational and professional career.
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 27, 2018 03:08 PM (Dp6qK)
___________
Same here. Cramming works. I would not recommend it for long term retention, but for passing a one time test - works well.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:10 PM (z8Nrh)

275 >>r. I think it's interesting that it seems certain to media liberals that being politically active ought to count as an "extracurricular activity" that should get you into a college you would otherwise be rejected from.

Ace - If not already mentioned, current college applications are big on asking students to identify their community/culture and what you've done to enrich it (i.e.,activism). It's likely a way to obtain minority status, which they can't use as a determining factor (wink, wink).

Some examples of application questions:

Some students have a background or story that is so central to their identity that they believe their application would be incomplete without it. If this sounds like you, then please share your story.
......
Reflect on a time when you challenged a belief or idea. What prompted you to act? Would you make the same decision again?
......
Discuss an accomplishment or event, formal or informal, that marked your transition from childhood to adulthood within your culture, community, or family.

Bookworm's done some posts on this: https://preview.tinyurl.com/y82xkr2s

Posted by: Lizzy at March 27, 2018 03:10 PM (W+vEI)

276 My suggestion. Time for this little baby armed triangle headed weasel to go back to being ignored. 15 minutes are up. I'm tired of seeing this vile little turd.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 27, 2018 03:10 PM (7qnb5)

277 WOPR daughter almost got out of an entire year of college. "

Some schools have stopped using AP courses as prerequisites, so you'll still spend the dollars there...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (7LY+6)

278 You had slide rules? Luxury!

You had numbers?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (GdWl+)

279 234 Does the FBI have a college?

Posted by: Under Fire at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (r9UYA)

They lease space at McDonald's Burger University.

Alternate Campus, fast track to leadership ranks:

http://www.circopedia.org/Clown_College

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (k1TUh)

280 What sayeth the Horde?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 03:07 PM (fuK7c)

Story needs more boobs and bacon.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (Dp6qK)

281 When I was 17 the biggest worry was getting drafted.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (mpXpK)

You know you could pay people to take your place. Fenelon Spouse's great, great etc, Grandfather was a naturalized immigrant , a stand in for some rich dude during the Civil War . ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Ouch. Fen brining the funneh!

Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (z8tEv)

282 Yep. I hate this inclusion of AP scores in the GPA. Used to be getting a 4.0 at any decent high school was a rare achievement. Now it's pffft, with AP courses plumping GPAs. AP course should be reported separately, IMO.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:00 PM (rIXu3)

I don't think the district I was in weighed AP courses that high.

I know for a fact AP English classes weren't weighted at all. Science classes were, but they definitely weren't on a 5 point scale.
Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 03:01 PM (XMDuf)

It is supposed to be listed as weighted GPA, not to be mistaken for cumulative which is still out of 4 max. Reporters don't understand that, nothing new there though.

All AP/IB are given an extra 1.0 weight for the last several decades. I don't know how things may have been done before that. You can't take all AP/IB classes since most electives and things like PE obviously won't have a counterpart, so a 5.0 isn't possible

Posted by: Sjg at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (gDSJf)

283 Jane, did that little weasel say that?

Posted by: moki at March 27, 2018 03:09 PM (V+V4

That's the interview that was removed by YouTube.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (ptqGC)

284 Bander, you tied. If you had taken the test again, that would have decided the scores once and for all, but you didn't. So you have to count only the tests that you took at the same time.

Posted by: moki at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (V+V48)

285

WAIT

WTF is a 4.2 gpa??
What's the extra .2 for??

Posted by: Soothie at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (jdPh/)

286 Since we're all reporting SAT scores, 1580. I seriously considered retaking it to get 1600, but I had so many AP and IB tests to take (I ended up getting 45 hours of college credit. of course I was majoring in engineering so it didn't help me graduate any faster), plus I had to take several SAT IIs, so I decided it wasn't worth it. Still pissed that I got 780 on the SAT I math and 800 on the SAT II math IIc. I wish those scores had been swapped.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (kB/Vf)

287 What sayeth the Horde?

Posted by: Bandersnatch

you are smarter because you only took the test once. He had an advantage the 2nd time so results are meaningless, but you were smart enough to not bother, and (probably) relax with a beer. cheers.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (bT8Z4)

288 Oh boy, indeed it was. Height of the Vietnam War that's all guys thought about. Then came the lottery. Freak out time.
Posted by: Tuna at March 27, 2018 03:10 PM (jm1YL)

Shirley Jackson's "Lottery?" That really happened?

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (7uYFy)

289 Louisiana had kids take the ACT.

I took that and the GMAT . Couldn't tell you what I scored on either though I could give you a guesstimate. The perfect ACT score I think was 36. I did not score a 36.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (r7qNw)

290
Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2018 03:03 PM (VWsDy)

When I was 17 the biggest worry was getting drafted.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM
.
.
.When I was 17 my biggest worry was getting laid.
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The draft ended the year I turned 18. I was consumed with getting laid as early as 13. Didn't happen until 16, but it was the one constant consuming career goal I had.

Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (2LelM)

291 KTE got 800 on Math on her second try
There was much cramming

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (jfUum)

292 233 Trying to figure the Mean on the SAT is troublesome given the dumb kids don't even take the test. I would certainly prefer a IQ test that measures capacity over a test that measure absorption and retention of stuff. If we did that kids could just interview with employers straight out of HS and find their niche much quicker and easily. Colleges have become a really expensive four year pre-interview exercise. Its basically Kafkaesque.
Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:05 PM (2LelM)

The SAT is basically an IQ test; when it was instituted it was derived from IQ tests of the time. When I took it, at least, it was not so much a matter of knowledge and retention as testing for basic academic skills (hence the name, "scholastic aptitude test"). The verbal part largely entailed reading a passage provided and then answering questions about it to test one's reading comprehension.

The math part had precious little mathematics on it, but instead had a lot of "which triangle (or number) is the next in the series" type questions, i.e., pattern recognition.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (rIXu3)

293 Oh, and I got the 1340 when it was somewhat harder to do (penalized for guessing, etc).

And, I was drunk. No kidding.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 27, 2018 03:12 PM (AzW6q)

294 One of my favorite parts of modern academia is mandatory volunteerism.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at March 27, 2018 03:12 PM (ks6bw)

295 She was reading it off of a script, though. Bullying doesn't sound as fancy.

True, but my guess is she didn't pay the kids at the "Emo Gazebo" any more attention than anyone else. Just one of those kids you ignore and don't invite to parties, don't talk to, don't give eye contact to because they're so weird

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:12 PM (39g3+)

296 When I was 17 the biggest worry was getting drafted.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM

I got in the 320's in the lottery. Would have to have a WW for me be drafted. Of course my Dad nagged me constantly to join the Corp.

Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2018 03:12 PM (VWsDy)

297

Don't tell me...

They raised the gpa scale to 5 for the millenial shits??

Posted by: Soothie at March 27, 2018 03:12 PM (jdPh/)

298 Whose wife is hotter?

That's a fair question. Mine was, but now she's an ex. He still has his.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 03:12 PM (fuK7c)

299 The kid's old man is retired FBI, so living on a full taxpayer pension after he did something so corrupt or stupid that even the FBI couldn't abide.

Posted by: regular joe at March 27, 2018 03:12 PM (rO07P)

300 So he went back to school to interview all the thousands of students who weren't at school anymore?
Posted by: Moron Robbie

ATSIXPM!!!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM (z8tEv)

301 ''You know you could pay people to take your place. Fenelon Spouse's great, great etc, Grandfather was a naturalized immigrant , a stand in for some rich dude during the Civil War . ;^)''

My husband's direct ancestor got off the boat from Scotland and in to the Union army. Spent most of the war in Belle Island POW camp.

Posted by: Tuna at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM (jm1YL)

302 Since we're all reporting SAT scores, 1580. I seriously considered retaking it to get 1600, but I had so many AP and IB tests to take (I ended up getting 45 hours of college credit. of course I was majoring in engineering so it didn't help me graduate any faster), plus I had to take several SAT IIs, so I decided it wasn't worth it. Still pissed that I got 780 on the SAT I math and 800 on the SAT II math IIc. I wish those scores had been swapped.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (kB/Vf)

I got 1000 total. I didn't realize the importance at the time and I was bored taking it. By the end I was just filling random dots with the pencil.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM (7uYFy)

303 >>257 weren't there gunshots going off during the "closet" interview?

I thought so too. The entire timeline is once again sketchy.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM (r9UYA)

304 Posted by: Mrs. Peel at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (kB/Vf)

Are you sure you're a Mrs? That sounds impossible for a girl.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM (r7qNw)

305 That's a fair question. Mine was, but now she's an ex. He still has his.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 03:12 PM (fuK7c)

Call it a draw then.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM (mk7Bj)

306 What sayeth the Horde?

Tests don't measure intelligence, they measure the ability to take tests. That's my answer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM (39g3+)

307 When I was 17 the biggest worry was getting drafted.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (mpXpK)

Caesar had called up a draft?

Posted by: Don Q. at March 27, 2018 03:14 PM (NgKpN)

308 btw DOW down 220 now, make that 231

Posted by: illiniwek at March 27, 2018 03:14 PM (bT8Z4)

309 ''You know you could pay people to take your place. Fenelon Spouse's great, great etc, Grandfather was a naturalized immigrant , a stand in for some rich dude during the Civil War . ;^)''
---------------------------------------------
Teddy Roosevelt's father paid some poor schlub to take his place.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:14 PM (7uYFy)

310 Story needs more boobs and bacon.

*scribbles*

Bourbon, too. I thought of that without being reminded.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 03:14 PM (fuK7c)

311 Oh, I'm one of those who took the SAT in 198X. I was commiserating.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 27, 2018 03:15 PM (yL25O)

312 Scores are irrelevant. What matters is how you apply your knowledge to your particular talent.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 27, 2018 03:15 PM (Ckg4U)

313 What sayeth the Horde?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 03:07 PM (fuK7c)

SAT is minor league to the GMAT's big league. Therefore it is a tie.

* At least that's how I would argue it in your position. *

Posted by: WOPR (With Full Auto Nuclear Ability) at March 27, 2018 03:15 PM (WVeiZ)

314 In my old country the national standard test was so useless that each college had their own entrance exam.

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at March 27, 2018 03:15 PM (jfUum)

315 What sayeth the Horde?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 03:07 PM

Who crushed their enemies, saw them driven before them, and heard the lamentations of their women?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 27, 2018 03:15 PM (ctuyM)

316 >>>292
The SAT is basically an IQ test; when it was instituted it was derived from IQ tests of the time. When I took it, at least, it was not so much a matter of knowledge and retention as testing for basic academic skills (hence the name, "scholastic aptitude test"). The verbal part largely entailed reading a passage provided and then answering questions about it to test one's reading comprehension.

The math part had precious little mathematics on it, but instead had a lot of "which triangle (or number) is the next in the series" type questions, i.e., pattern recognition.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (rIXu3)
___________
It still is an IQ test. It's more bias towards crystalized intelligence rather than liquid, but it's an intelligence test none the less

With a 1270 David "The Twink" Hogg has an IQ of about 125-130. It puts him in a bad spot. He's likely to be smartest guy in a room average people or the dumbest guy in a room.of smart people.

And I hope he suffers from it tremendously.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:15 PM (z8Nrh)

317 Caesar had called up a draft?"

Hammurabi...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 27, 2018 03:16 PM (7LY+6)

318 "You mean an SAT score of 1270 doesn't qualify you to dismantle the U.S. Constitution?"

Thank you for the chortle, Mr. Madison.

Posted by: TCDD, Pointing/Laughing Dept. at March 27, 2018 03:16 PM (JoORq)

319 what is advanced placement now? being able to read at an 8th grade level?

Posted by: x at March 27, 2018 03:16 PM (nFwvY)

320 306
What sayeth the Horde?

Tests don't measure intelligence, they measure the ability to take tests. That's my answer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM (39g3+)
I do agree with this. I went through the British system with O-levels and A-levels and it was nothing but cramming and being able to regurgitate the facts under pressure. The tests were rarely a designed to measure critical thinking, etc.

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 03:16 PM (a0IVu)

321 Not admitted bullying. She shrieked that she ostracized him because he was a Terrible Person(c) "you didn't know this kid!!!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:08 PM (39g3+)

TBH I can't bring myself to fault her for that. I don't doubt he was a slimy SOB. Wasn't he violent at home? And at school, to the point where he wasn't allowed to bring a backpack?

If she made a point of harassing him, that's another story, but I'd probably steer clear of him given the choice.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 27, 2018 03:16 PM (y87Qq)

322 So he went back to school to interview all the thousands of students who weren't at school anymore?
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Oh, and during his initial interview when the sun was up & he was being interviewed the day of the shooting he mentioned the students being "soft targets".

What 17 yr old talks like that?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2018 03:16 PM (z8tEv)

323 Reflect on a time when you challenged a belief or idea. What prompted you to act? Would you make the same decision again?

One time I challenged a belief or idea? Hey, I attended UC, and as a conservative. 'Nuff said.

What prompted me to act? Disgust at what I saw around me.

Would I make the same decision again? Hell yes. Either that, or nuke the place from orbit, just to be sure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:16 PM (rIXu3)

324 Close Tags Save.

...but Jesus is better.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 27, 2018 03:16 PM (Ckg4U)

325 Can we start comparing GRE scores now?

Posted by: TexasDan at March 27, 2018 03:16 PM (yL25O)

326 I encourage Democrats to run on this with Hogg. In fact I implore it.

The talk of confiscation and repealing The Second Amendment tells us what people knew all along.

Democrats are full of shit. They will say anything to get elected and then nail you.

Which is what they did last time.

People like Lamb in Pa and Jones in Alabama are simply subterfuge. Ditto The rest of these democrats hiding in Congress.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 27, 2018 03:16 PM (6a25Q)

327 308
btw DOW down 220 now, make that 231

Posted by: illiniwek at March 27, 2018 03:14 PM (bT8Z4)
tech sector turmoil, according to market watch..

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 03:17 PM (a0IVu)

328 rather than liquid,"

Meth?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 27, 2018 03:17 PM (7LY+6)

329 Not admitted bullying. She shrieked that she ostracized him because he was a Terrible Person(c) "you didn't know this kid!!!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:08 PM (39g3+)

TBH I can't bring myself to fault her for that. I don't doubt he was a slimy SOB. Wasn't he violent at home? And at school, to the point where he wasn't allowed to bring a backpack?

The shrieking was disturbing, and made me wonder about her mental health. Or lack thereof.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:17 PM (rIXu3)

330 So the SAT is 1600, 800 math and 800 reading and riting. I would have scored 800 and went to a community college.

Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2018 03:17 PM (VWsDy)

331 tests do not measure intelligence; receiving the Nobel Peace Prize does

Posted by: Bracka Obama at March 27, 2018 03:17 PM (Quntx)

332 Never took the SAT.

Took the ACT and didn't do very well, I think a 29 IIRC.

Good enough to get me into state college though.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (Q4yHo)

333 241---Either way, taking a bunch of prep just makes it a false test....
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (7UW64)
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I agree. It is useful as a diagnostic test.
That is, it gives you a good idea of your academic strength so you can find a good college match.

Little Johnny may have his heart set on going to MIT but, if he gets 650 on the math SAT, it's a lousy fit. He'll be in waaaay over his head and will doubtless get discouraged.

But he can go to a decent second tier school, learn and prosper. And who knows? If you pick a good undergrad match, you may advance enough to qualify for a top-tier grad school. It happens.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (0jtPF)

334 288 Oh boy, indeed it was. Height of the Vietnam War that's all guys thought about. Then came the lottery. Freak out time.
Posted by: Tuna at March 27, 2018 03:10 PM (jm1YL)

Shirley Jackson's "Lottery?" That really happened?
Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (7uYFy)

It sort of did:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_lottery_(1969)

Posted by: Curmudgeon at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (ujg0T)

335 Posted by: Tuna at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM (jm1YL)

I think there were a number of people originally from other countries fighting in the Civil War. FenelonSpouse's ancestor was Irish. He was in Andersonville. However, he liked America enough to stay here and not go back to the old sod.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (tpDAe)

336 Meh, the little storm trooper can put on a denim skirt , pink sweater and heels and get the university of its choice. Throw in a buttplug and Harvard willing being knocking down his door.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (bML9A)

337 >>>312 Scores are irrelevant. What matters is how you apply your knowledge to your particular talent.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 27, 2018 03:15 PM (Ckg4U)
_________
That true, but the smarter you are the faster you can learn knowledge and develop your talent.

Or in Twinky Hogg's case the faster he can ram a concrete pinapple in and out of his own butt hole

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (z8Nrh)

338
what is advanced placement now? being able to read at an 8th grade level?

You can read what color all the crayons are in one of those big sets from Crayola...

Posted by: tu3031 at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (O5Q3r)

339 So David, have you ever had unprotected sex?
*wink*

Posted by: Anderson's Pooper at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (HgMAr)

340 tech sector turmoil

Also known as Facebook shitting the bed.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (Boy/L)

341 I took the act in the 80s and did well. I regret not studying more or trying harder. Or taking it again if allowed.

It's my understanding that nowadays you can take prep classes that can move you from full rides at state schools to full rides anywhere if you are a minority, and won't do sh*t for you if you aren't.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (ks6bw)

342 The SAT is basically an IQ test; when it was instituted it was derived from IQ tests of the time. When I took it, at least, it was not so much a matter of knowledge and retention as testing for basic academic skills (hence the name, "scholastic aptitude test"). The verbal part largely entailed reading a passage provided and then answering questions about it to test one's reading comprehension.

The math part had precious little mathematics on it, but instead had a lot of "which triangle (or number) is the next in the series" type questions, i.e., pattern recognition.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:11 PM (rIXu3)

Aside from one kid who basically aced the SAT, the ones in my class who scored high all had paid SAT lessons. I alway's thought that was cheating. But they learned how to take the test. I didn't and didn't score high.
And the kid who aced the test went to MIT and flunked out his freshman year.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (7uYFy)

343 When I was 17, it was a very good year. It was a very good year for small town girls, and soft summer nights, we'd hide from the lights on the village green. When I was 17.

Posted by: Mainah at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (B+qrE)

344 316 He's likely to be smartest guy in a room average people or the dumbest guy in a room.of smart people.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:15 PM (z8Nrh)

Been there, done that.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 03:19 PM (XMDuf)

345 His disappointment brings a faint smile to my face.

I wish him lots more of it.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at March 27, 2018 03:19 PM (FlXVN)

346 With a 1270 David "The Twink" Hogg has an IQ of about 125-130.

---

Has there been IQ test score inflation too?

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at March 27, 2018 03:19 PM (jfUum)

347 It's definitely impossible for a feminist!

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at March 27, 2018 03:19 PM (kB/Vf)

348 Most of the tycoons in the gilded age paid someone to take their place in the Civil War (Morgan, Rockefeller, Carnegie etc). Of course, they were also doing things that helped supply the war effort, so they weren't exactly contributing nothing. Allegedly the Vietnam lottery/draft you couldn't do that with but lots of people did.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:19 PM (39g3+)

349 I went through the British system with O-levels and A-levels ...

I will never understand that. I listen to a lot of BBC and when people start talking about A-levels and the fifth form it might as well be the results of a cricket match.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 03:20 PM (fuK7c)

350 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (Q4yHo)

29 was not a bad score if I recall. Above average .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2018 03:20 PM (r7qNw)

351 The SAT is an IQ test. It's not the best IQ test, but it's good enough.

You can look up tables for conversation rates online.

Also - The mean SAT isn't a useful number because very few exceptionally unintelligent people take the SAT
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I think the SAT we took (1970s) was both Aptitude and Achievement whereas now it is mostly a measure of Achievement. We didn't cram for SATs in our days cuz it wasn't that important to our futures. Today it has become like the Japanese college testing. If you fail to make the grade your life is over. The funny thing is Japan has great metrics for HS but when the kids get to college they basically slack off. In our day is was just the reverse.

Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:20 PM (2LelM)

352 They raised the gpa scale to 5 for the millenial shits??
Posted by: Soothie at March 27, 2018 03:12 PM (jdPh/)

Quantitative easing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:20 PM (rIXu3)

353 The shrieking was disturbing, and made me wonder about her mental health. Or lack thereof.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:17 PM (rIXu3)

Let's face it, schools/society/entertainment are turning out mentally disturbed kids. I don't doubt that Hogg and the Hoggettes are just about as messed up as the shooter.

Posted by: WOPR (With Full Auto Nuclear Ability) at March 27, 2018 03:20 PM (WVeiZ)

354 ''I think there were a number of people originally from other countries fighting in the Civil War. FenelonSpouse's ancestor was Irish. He was in Andersonville. However, he liked America enough to stay here and not go back to the old sod.''

Indeed. Much better here than there. Hubby's got out of the war alive and became a mining engineer.

Posted by: Tuna at March 27, 2018 03:20 PM (jm1YL)

355 Tests don't measure intelligence, they measure the ability to take tests. That's my answer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM (39g3+)

That's like saying that a 100 yard dash doesn't measure anything about ones athletic ability, only his ability to run a race.

Of course certain tests measure a lot about intelligence.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 03:20 PM (8gDQu)

356 I think I'm gonna see if I can find my old SAT scores. Maybe take 'em to the courthouse. See if I can get some kind of Mental Disability check.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 03:20 PM (DMoow)

357 David "The Twink" Hogg has an IQ of about 125-130.

Hard to say but I'd put him in the low 100s, maybe 110 max. He doesn't strike me as being especially clever or capable. Maybe slightly higher than normal.

But again, this test has changed. When I took the test 150 was genius, now its like 180 or higher. They keep jacking the numbers up to sound better I guess. So he may be that high in the modern test.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:21 PM (39g3+)

358 My HS was honest - we had a real 4 point scale even if you took AP. No bonus for A+, it was 4.0. A was 95 and up.

The other big schools in the state would give the additional .33 for A+, and their As were 93 and up.

Most admissions departments know how schools grade, though, at least roughly. So someone with a 3.7 coming out of my HS was roughly on par with a 4.1 at another school.

Posted by: blaster at March 27, 2018 03:21 PM (Z5y53)

359 336 Meh, the little storm trooper can put on a denim skirt , pink sweater and heels and get the university of its choice. Throw in a buttplug and Harvard willing being knocking down his door.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (bML9A)

Under normal circumstances, the FBI Daddy would have been enough to get him into Harvard.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 03:21 PM (XMDuf)

360

Sent the smarmy little fuck to Berkley, plenty of lonely old gay men he can twink for, beat up and rob...

Posted by: In Vito Veritits at March 27, 2018 03:21 PM (E78bp)

361 The shrieking was disturbing, and made me wonder about her mental health. Or lack thereof.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:17 PM (rIXu3)

Fair enough. I am blessed with a lack of cable news and no need to sit in airport lounges so I hadn't seen the interview. And no doubt she's completely bugnuts herself.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 27, 2018 03:21 PM (y87Qq)

362 Son: I'm going back to school to take pictures and get reactions after today's mass shooting there.

Dad: Wouldn't it be a good idea to stay away from school today? it may not be safe there.

Son: The place is crawling with cops. It has to be safe now.

Dad: Isn't the OTHER major narrative being pushed constantly by our news media that cops shoot first and ask questions later?

Posted by: Mike S at March 27, 2018 03:21 PM (Gyg4r)

363 David has been rejected by the 4 University of California campuses where he submitted applications -- UCLA, UCSD, UCSB

UCLA and UCSD are difficult schools to get into. UCSB is an artsie fartsie universitythat limosusine liberals send their kids to but its not a hotbed of left wing radicalism

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 27, 2018 03:22 PM (lKyWE)

364 I took the SAT test and have no clue what my score was. I did get into a college that I was kicked out of fairly quickly which I do remember.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 27, 2018 03:22 PM (aVYsC)

365 355
Tests don't measure intelligence, they measure the ability to take tests. That's my answer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM (39g3+)

That's like saying that a 100 yard dash doesn't measure anything about ones athletic ability, only his ability to run a race.

Of course certain tests measure a lot about intelligence.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 03:20 PM (8gDQu)

And that's when the fight started.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 27, 2018 03:22 PM (Dp6qK)

366 With a 1270 David "The Twink" Hogg has an IQ of about 125-130. It puts him in a bad spot. He's likely to be smartest guy in a room average people or the dumbest guy in a room.of smart people.

And I hope he suffers from it tremendously.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:15 PM (z8Nrh)

I doubt that punk's IQ is that high. Seriously. He comes across as average, but with a bad attitude. His IQ is 100 tops.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:22 PM (7uYFy)

367 Tests don't measure intelligence, they measure the ability to take tests. That's my answer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM

The ability to take tests means the ability to learn, which I thought was what college was all about. But WTF do I know?

I crushed the SATs 40 years ago as was one of less than 10 in my HS to go to college. Paid my own way too, for the princely sum of $800/semester.

Posted by: regular joe at March 27, 2018 03:22 PM (rO07P)

368 OT, Drudge saying Bibi hospitalized - fever and coughing. Hope its just a lingering effect of a cold..

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 03:22 PM (a0IVu)

369 Aside from one kid who basically aced the SAT, the ones in my class who scored high all had paid SAT lessons. I alway's thought that was cheating. But they learned how to take the test. I didn't and didn't score high.
And the kid who aced the test went to MIT and flunked out his freshman year.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:18 PM (7uYFy)

Back in the day, there were no hothouse SAT prep courses. You just tried to get a good night's sleep, not be hung over, and show up with several pencils.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:23 PM (rIXu3)

370 Honestly, Hogg seems more like a Stanford dude than anything.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at March 27, 2018 03:23 PM (ks6bw)

371 The Horde is amazing ... all screwing supermodels, and all super-geniuses.

I gotta" go find a retard board somewhere. Maybe there's a Seven of Clubs HQ out there.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 02:49 PM (DMoow)

Try Hot Air.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 27, 2018 02:57 PM (oyCqX)

Brietbart. Andrews famed comments about wanting Ace's comenters not only stand the test of time they are even more accurate today. Half of them are trolls, the other half seem to be a rather dim group of real alt right (unlike the site itself) and hard core social conservatives (sodomites going to hell is a popular comment).

Posted by: Keith at March 27, 2018 03:23 PM (USf3s)

372 Scores are irrelevant. What matters is how you apply your knowledge

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there is some serious truth to that; Canadian Bar exam is open book

Posted by: runner at March 27, 2018 03:23 PM (Quntx)

373 357 But again, this test has changed. When I took the test 150 was genius, now its like 180 or higher. They keep jacking the numbers up to sound better I guess. So he may be that high in the modern test.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:21 PM (39g3+)

I had to take an IQ test twice (both times because my psychologist suggested it), once when I was about 8, and another around 12-13.

All I know is that I scored _MUCH_ lower taking it the second time.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 03:23 PM (XMDuf)

374 312 Scores are irrelevant. What matters is how you apply your knowledge to your particular talent.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 27, 2018 03:15 PM (Ckg4U)

I've always live my life per slogans, which I know is thick. This is one of the slogans I live by

Posted by: REDACTED at March 27, 2018 03:24 PM (VWsDy)

375 They raised the gpa scale to 5 for the millenial shits??

Posted by: Soothie at March 27, 2018 03:12 PM (jdPh/)

Quantitative easing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:20 PM (rIXu3)
So "5" is the new "11"? Is that right?

Posted by: Nigel Tufnel at March 27, 2018 03:24 PM (O5Q3r)

376 Of course certain tests measure a lot about intelligence.

They can, but someone can be brutally intelligent but be terrible at taking tests for a wide variety of reasons. On the other hand some people are not particularly bright but take tests really well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:24 PM (39g3+)

377 http://bit.ly/AT2M7m
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JUST IN=> Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu Rushed To Hospital For High Fever

Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 27, 2018 03:24 PM (y3aQB)

378 Fair enough. I am blessed with a lack of cable news and no need to sit in airport lounges so I hadn't seen the interview. And no doubt she's completely bugnuts herself.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 27, 2018 03:21 PM (y87Qq)

No cable here either. I saw it on Youtube.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:24 PM (rIXu3)

379 I will never understand that. I listen to a lot of BBC and when people start talking about A-levels and the fifth form it might as well be the results of a cricket match.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 27, 2018 03:20 PM (fuK7c)

Not to mention what they call 'public school' is what we call 'private school' and what we call 'boarding school' is what they call 'H M Prison Cardiff'.

It's because of the metric system.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 27, 2018 03:24 PM (y87Qq)

380 paying someone to take ones place - I did have a couple of very honorable ancestors in the last Civil War, including one who became a brevetted General for the 21st Wisconsin. (brevetted means you got the rank as a retirement present) But there was another great great grandfather who was not so honorable - not only did he pay someone to take his place, he then got rich during the war by buying up all the farmland of the men who had gone off to war and died at super cheap prices. At the end of the war he had become the biggest landholder in the county.

Well, his grandson was an idiot and lost it all in the depression, so ashes to ashes and all that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2018 03:24 PM (k1TUh)

381 >>>346 With a 1270 David "The Twink" Hogg has an IQ of about 125-130.

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Has there been IQ test score inflation too?
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at March 27, 2018 03:19 PM (jfUum)
__________
No, IQ is always re-averaged to 100 each year. There is a creep effect upward, called the Flynn effect but that is not from people getting smarter over time, unfortunately.

The Flynn effect is a very complicated issue with the way IQ test questions are selected. I wish it meant we were getting smarter, but that's not the case as it was originally assumed when the effect was discovered.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (z8Nrh)

382 371 Brietbart. Andrews famed comments about wanting Ace's comenters not only stand the test of time they are even more accurate today. Half of them are trolls, the other half seem to be a rather dim group of real alt right (unlike the site itself) and hard core social conservatives (sodomites going to hell is a popular comment).
Posted by: Keith at March 27, 2018 03:23 PM (USf3s)

Takimag is worse.

Half the comments are "Send the blacks back to Africa whether they want to go or not", and the other Half are "Why haven't we handed Israel over to the Muslims yet?"

Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (XMDuf)

383 I crushed the SATs 40 years ago as was one of less than 10 in my HS to go to college. Paid my own way too, for the princely sum of $800/semester.

Posted by: regular joe at March 27, 2018 03:22 PM (rO07P)

-

Sigh. Yep, I'm old enough to remember being able to work summers and part time through classes to put yourself through a good state school.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (ks6bw)

384 "Took the ACT and didn't do very well, I think a 29 IIRC.
Good enough to get me into state college though.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger

that's what I got iirc, though I did real well on math and kinda sucked at the rest. But that was pretty high back in the 70s. Pretty sure it was upper 90's percentile. Then they started the prep classes and kids would get in the 30s routinely ...

or maybe they changed the tests do the school could claim their kids were smarter (and teacher's deserve big raises). Kinda like ignoring the crime in Broward county schools, instead of raising kids better.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (bT8Z4)

385 Probably also mentioned:

David Hogg is a **White Male**.

Universities are currently interested in diversity, not white male privilege.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (W+vEI)

386 All I know is that I scored _MUCH_ lower taking it the second time.

I suspect I'd be the same. The kids test and the adult test are different, and I think that you don't get consistent results between them. Plus, adults are a lot less focused and interested in taking the test, so if something is particularly challenging they tend to blow it off and move to the next one. I have a life, taking this test is eating into it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (39g3+)

387 gah..stock market investors are bipolar...

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (a0IVu)

388 there is some serious truth to that; Canadian Bar exam is open book
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My exam is open blouse.

Posted by: Stormy D. at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (vg8iE)

389 My test scores couldn't have gotten me into an excellent school in Ohio, but if you talk to me on the phone, you'll understand why a 1300+ on one and a 26 on the other mean nothing.

I simply hated homework.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (Ckg4U)

390 So "5" is the new "11"? Is that right?
Posted by: Nigel Tufnel at March 27, 2018 03:24 PM (O5Q3r)

For now. Later they'll make "3" the new "11," asserting that the latter was always intended to be binary.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (rIXu3)

391 JUST IN=> Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu Rushed To Hospital For High Fever"

Pansy. Last time I had a high fever I just sucked it up and had a toddy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2018 03:26 PM (k1TUh)

392 Today it has become like the Japanese college testing. If you fail to make the grade your life is over.

Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:20 PM (2LelM)

For most kids, they'll probably end up better off. First two years of undergrad are mostly a waste of money. Mandatory lower divsion courses filled with 400 students to one professor is not good value for the tuition costs.

Going to a community college for 1-2 years then transferring to a better school leaves you with far less debt.

Posted by: Sjg at March 27, 2018 03:26 PM (gDSJf)

393 One time I challenged a belief or idea? Hey, I attended UC, and as a conservative. 'Nuff said.

What prompted me to act? Disgust at what I saw around me.

Would I make the same decision again? Hell yes. Either that, or nuke the place from orbit, just to be sure.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:16 PM (rIXu3)

Me too. Disgust at Berkeley TURNED me into a right-winger.

Honestly, parents reading this? If your kid is uncertain, let him attend a Junior College and get the math and science down, and then s/he can transfer to Big Name University. And let, nay, have, him/her work an entry level job full time for a year after high school. Sending "undeclared" kids to university is like sending academic lambs to an academic slaughterhouse.

Outside of the STEM degrees, most "education" is crap nowadays.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at March 27, 2018 03:26 PM (ujg0T)

394 381
The Flynn effect is a very complicated issue with the way IQ test questions are selected. I wish it meant we were getting smarter, but that's not the case as it was originally assumed when the effect was discovered.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (z8Nrh)

Mine dropped 24 points the second time I took it.

And it'd probably be a damn sight lower now. I have trouble putting two coherent thoughts together most of the time these days.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 03:26 PM (XMDuf)

395 My exam is open blouse.
Posted by: Stormy D. at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (vg8iE)

whore

Posted by: runner at March 27, 2018 03:26 PM (Quntx)

396 Nationalist Pikachu, may I ask what you do for a living? I think your comments are interesting vis a vis the information about IQ, etc. You don't have to answer, of course.

Posted by: moki at March 27, 2018 03:26 PM (V+V48)

397 I can see Hogg broke down on the side of the road yelling into his cell phone.

'Yeah dad I know what a lug wrench is !!'

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2018 03:27 PM (r7qNw)

398 Here's my test for the tide poders:

Are you or anyone on this planet entitled to my money and time?

Are you entitled to have a say in what I can and cannot say?

What do the words 'tolerance,' 'diversity' and 'offensive' actually mean, and how has this been applied in the real world?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 27, 2018 03:27 PM (72PAC)

399 https://cbsn.ws/Ds9Nnk
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Man arrested in connection to suspicious packages sent to Washington, D.C., military bases - CBS News

Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 27, 2018 03:27 PM (y3aQB)

400 Tests don't measure intelligence, they measure the ability to take tests. That's my answer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM (39g3+)

That's like saying that a 100 yard dash doesn't measure anything about ones athletic ability, only his ability to run a race.

Of course certain tests measure a lot about intelligence.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 03:20 PM (8gDQu)

I see your point, but almost every high school football player I know attended "speed schools" where the goal is to cut a half second or so from your finish time for the 100 yard dash. And in baseball, it's well-known that speed isn't everything in running the bases. You have to know "how" to run. That can be taught. Of course speed like Deion Sanders or Rickey Henderson's can't be taught.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:27 PM (7uYFy)

401 Boss Hogg should have to dig ditches at hard labor and then have to defend his paycheck from thugs that really want to take it or you know try living real life as an adult. Children can not possibly know what reality is or what life has in store for most people.

That being said I want the left to seriously push to repeal the 2nd. Seriously push for the abolition of guns. Then they will know that there is a serious majority of people in the US that want to at least have the option to own firearms. And they would learn that 100s of millions of citizens own guns and that for a sizable percentage they own multiple small arms and know how to use them. The 2nd amendment protects the rights of the people and ensures our last defense against any and all tyranny.

Posted by: USNtakim Come and take them! Asshole. at March 27, 2018 03:27 PM (0OmEj)

402 The Flynn effect is a very complicated issue"

Is that where you plead guilty even when you're not?

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2018 03:27 PM (k1TUh)

403 No cable here either. I saw it on Youtube.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:24 PM (rIXu3)

Can't do it, bro. Seeing it on cable at least is a thing that happens to you. Seeing these ambulatory wet spots gibbering their terrible opinions on Youtube means seeking it out, and that's where I draw the line. I'd rather chew razor wire.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 27, 2018 03:28 PM (y87Qq)

404 A few more college application questions...

What about your background, or what perspective, belief, or experience, will help you contribute to the education of your classmates at UNC?

- - - -
As part of Gonzaga's Presidential Speaker Series, the University brings to campus individuals whose scholarly research and commitment to social justice inspire students to action. Who would you choose to speak at Gonzaga and why?

- - - -
The University of Oregon values difference, and we take pride in our diverse community. Please explain how you will share your experiences, values and interests with our community. In what ways can you imagine offering your support to others?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 27, 2018 03:28 PM (W+vEI)

405 No cable here either. I saw it on Youtube"

Same here.

You know, I'm wondering if the school having 2 different campuses is mixing the tales...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 27, 2018 03:29 PM (7LY+6)

406 In the video I saw, Sinead Gonzalez implies she "ostracized" Cruz.

I don't know that I'd count that as "bullying."

In fact, I wouldn't.

Unless there's another video I'm not aware of. She's still a Red Guard thugette.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 27, 2018 03:29 PM (Dn4Uq)

407
My exam is open blouse. Posted by: Stormy D. at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (vg8iE)

And the exam is in braille

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 27, 2018 03:29 PM (lKyWE)

408 I can see Hogg broke down on the side of the road yelling into his cell phone.

'Yeah dad I know what a lug wrench is !!'

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2018 03:27 PM (r7qNw)

Even with a lug wrench could he loosen the lug nuts with those twig arms?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 27, 2018 03:29 PM (aVYsC)

409 325 Can we start comparing GRE scores now?

Posted by: TexasDan at March 27, 2018 03:16 PM (yL25O)

I couldn't tell you mine on a dare.

I wanted to go to grad school so I wouldn't have to try to find a job in 1983. There weren't any. So they said I had to take the test, so I did. I honestly don't know if I ever even looked at the score.

By that point, test scores were sort of beside the point.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 03:29 PM (7UW64)

410
EN-HOGGANATE FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at March 27, 2018 03:29 PM (mPeei)

411 I would also suspect that the Hordes average IQ is north of 120.

And I don't say that to suck up to you all. Stupid people don't read stuff like this blog. They don't have the attention span. Period.

People with IQs in the 80 and below don't read any political blogs. Unless you've either got a challenged family member or you are mildly autistic and have read about intelligence in depth you probably have no idea the struggle someone with that level of intelligence has.

Reading written instructions and performing them is hard at 80.

The US Army doesn't admit anyone below 84 because their incompetents is counter productive to the Army.

I would not suggest learning too much about IQ it's depressing.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:29 PM (z8Nrh)

412 The FBI identified the suspect as 43-year-old Thanh Cong Phan.

Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 27, 2018 03:30 PM (y3aQB)

413 My exam is open blouse"

Ah. The ol' Harv audition method...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 27, 2018 03:30 PM (7LY+6)

414 Even with a lug wrench could he loosen the lug nuts with those twig arms?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 27, 2018 03:29 PM (aVYsC)

I used to carry one that was three feet long. How else can I compete with those power wrenches.?

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 03:30 PM (7UW64)

415 >>I would not suggest learning too much about IQ it's depressing.

And dangerous.

Posted by: Charles Murray at March 27, 2018 03:31 PM (W+vEI)

416 Back in the day, there were no hothouse SAT prep courses. You just tried to get a good night's sleep, not be hung over, and show up with several pencils.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:23 PM (rIXu3)

If you took the advanced classes here ... you sat for the PSAT as a Freshman . Same test if I recall ... put you on some college lists. No biggy.

And that was about it. There were books on how to study for the SAT ... but I think it just got you used to the format.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 03:31 PM (DMoow)

417 Looks like FarceBook is taking it in the shitter today.

I feel bad.

No.....really.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2018 03:31 PM (EyPfd)

418 OT, Drudge saying Bibi hospitalized - fever and coughing. Hope its just a lingering effect of a cold..
Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 03:22 PM (a0IVu)

Ha. It's more than that.

Posted by: Russia at March 27, 2018 03:31 PM (7uYFy)

419 Under what criteria can the UofO or most universities/colleges be considered diverse?. The only thing diverse might be that the have a variety of ethic groups. Diversity of thought is practically non existent.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2018 03:31 PM (tpDAe)

420 What, this scrawny, pimply turd, David Hogg, doesn't have a car or even a driver's license?

He can kiss my old man ass.

Posted by: Fritz at March 27, 2018 03:31 PM (2Mnv1)

421 Looks like FarceBook is taking it in the shitter today.
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That's something we have in common!

Posted by: Shep! at March 27, 2018 03:31 PM (vg8iE)

422 They can, but someone can be brutally intelligent but be terrible at taking tests for a wide variety of reasons.

It's very, very rare.

On the other hand some people are not particularly bright but take tests really well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:24 PM (39g3+)

You have to actually know stuff to get right answers. Of course, there can be some gaming with multiple choice tests - which is where the SAT suffers - but they used to penalize wrong answers to somewhat account for that. Still, these standardized tests are pretty good measures, if not quite what they once were, due to caving to the whiners.

The fact is that actions speak louder than words and standardized test scores are more accurate than grades or claims from someone's mom.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 03:31 PM (8gDQu)

423 411 I would not suggest learning too much about IQ it's depressing.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:29 PM (z8Nrh)

This is actually what has alarmed me so much over time.

My attention span has gone to absolute shit, and I can't really seem to concentrate on one thing for longer than about 90 seconds at a time.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 03:32 PM (XMDuf)

424
And that was about it. There were books on how to study for the SAT ... but I think it just got you used to the format.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 03:31 PM (DMoow)

That could be a big difference for some.

Posted by: Russia at March 27, 2018 03:32 PM (7uYFy)

425
I doubt that punk's IQ is that high. Seriously. He comes across as average, but with a bad attitude. His IQ is 100 tops.
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Totes agree. I bet his mom has him thinking he is Einstein. Tiger Moms can do that.

Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:32 PM (2LelM)

426 I used to carry one that was three feet long. How else can I compete with those power wrenches.?
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 03:30 PM (7UW64)

I've seen someone bend a 4' breaker bar trying to loosen the nuts on a Geo Metro. I would have bet on the car flipping over first.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 27, 2018 03:32 PM (y87Qq)

427 Takimag is worse.

Half the comments are "Send the blacks back to Africa whether they want to go or not", and the other Half are "Why haven't we handed Israel over to the Muslims yet?"
Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (XMDuf)

Sad but true. Even though Takimag has some very witty writers, their not so subtle anti-Semitic notion that writing Israel off would mean no more Muslim problems is disgusting. Ask the Euros how that worked out....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at March 27, 2018 03:32 PM (ujg0T)

428 When I was 17 the biggest worry was getting drafted.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 27, 2018 03:06 PM (mpXpK)

Damn that Roman legion!

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 03:32 PM (NWiLs)

429 420 What, this scrawny, pimply turd, David Hogg, doesn't have a car or even a driver's license?

He rides a bike...for Gaia.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 27, 2018 03:32 PM (Dn4Uq)

430 Honestly, Hogg seems more like a Stanford dude than anything.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at March 27, 2018 03:23 PM (ks6bw)

Mizzou J-School.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 27, 2018 03:32 PM (uiwCw)

431 I assure everyone here that I am not particularly intelligent. My sisters are Mensa material, but one of them panics opening a cake mix box and another of them owns three houses so full of junk she can't sell them. I'm the idiot sister, the one who is happily married, taking care of my old folks, working a real job, enjoying God's gift daily.

Intelligence isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 03:33 PM (7UW64)

432 "What, this scrawny, pimply turd, David Hogg, doesn't have a car or even a driver's license?"

Mom, dad or UBER.

These new kids aren't into driving, much.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2018 03:33 PM (EyPfd)

433 I'm more interested in who paid for the initiated the permits in DC. Who paid for the buses, stages, sound equipment, etc..

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 27, 2018 03:33 PM (U+nHb)

434 For all those who think Microsoft is a alternative to google...think again:

https://tinyurl.com/ybndsvhs

It is like they are trying to outdo each other in PC. Microsoft will punish you for offensive language even in private?

Posted by: William Eaton at March 27, 2018 03:33 PM (MuTTO)

435 I would not suggest learning too much about IQ it's depressing.
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Only thing you have to know is Ace Frehley of KISS has a higher IQ than Gene Simmons or Paul Stanley of KISS & Ace just laughed & said I have no fucking idea how that happened

Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 27, 2018 03:34 PM (y3aQB)

436 In the video I saw, Sinead Gonzalez implies she "ostracized" Cruz.

I don't know that I'd count that as "bullying."

In fact, I wouldn't.

Unless there's another video I'm not aware of. She's still a Red Guard thugette.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 27, 2018 03:29 PM (Dn4Uq)

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Think of moderate Muslims and practicing Muslims.

She might not've taken his lunch money, but she had no problem laughing at him after his Mom died.

Posted by: Moron el-Robbie - Bama's boot stomping on the face of college football forever at March 27, 2018 03:34 PM (ks6bw)

437 400 Tests don't measure intelligence, they measure the ability to take tests. That's my answer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2018 03:13 PM

As someone who's always been very good at standardized tests, I have to agree with you. I understand how they're put together, multiple choice is the easiest, and I always look at them as "hmm, I'm the question writer, how would I have built this one?"

I will maintain (and used to prove it with friends in different classes) that I can take a standardized multiple choice test in any non-technical college course and score at least a 70 without ever opening a book or spending a single hour in that class.

Essay tests can be either harder or easier - you've got to get to know the teacher/professor who's doing the grading. Once you know that, you just learn what all their pet academic fetishes are and you regurgitate those on paper, regardless of whether or not it has anything to do with the question that was asked. You'll always score a 95+ with that technique.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2018 03:34 PM (k1TUh)

438 Since we are talking SATs andstuff, what do you guys think of University of Scranton? Is it liberal or conservative?

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at March 27, 2018 03:34 PM (jfUum)

439 My son doesn't have a car and he's 18. Can't afford one right now. He can drive though.

Hey; I didn't get my own car till I graduated from college. It was a used gold beetle-a gift from my mother.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2018 03:34 PM (tpDAe)

440 Mine dropped 24 points the second time I took it.

Really not too surprising. We all have good days, and not such good days, and in every endeavor. I joked that there are days at the plate where it's like hitting a beach ball with a guitar. How can you miss? Then there are other days when it's like hitting a BB with a pencil. How does anyone ever do this?

I'm studying several languages now on Duolingo, and the phenomenon occurs. Some days, I'm jabbering away like a native. Other days, I'm on the "no tickee, no shirtee" plan.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:34 PM (rIXu3)

441 I used to carry one that was three feet long. How else can I compete with those power wrenches.?

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 03:30 PM (7UW64)

Almost had a wheel fall off because the tire shop guys forgot to tighten the lug nuts on one wheel. So it has been my habit ever since to loosen and torque all the lug nuts at home whenever a tire is worked on in a shop.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 27, 2018 03:35 PM (aVYsC)

442 Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at March 27, 2018 03:34 PM (jfUum)

I have a friend whose daughter goes there. She likes it. The family is conservative. I would say it's on the slightly more conservative side.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2018 03:35 PM (tpDAe)

443 Intelligence isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 03:33 PM (7UW64)

I have a sister and one brother with very high IQ's, and my other brother and I are normies.

My sister has three degrees from top schools and makes major mint as an exec at a major healthcare provider.

But... she's a hardcore leftist limousine lib.

So yeah, I agree it isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 27, 2018 03:35 PM (Dn4Uq)

444 I think, in the future, I'm just gonn' concentrate on not breathing through my mouth. Maybe get somebody to make all my life-choices for me. And there's always the Mental Disability Check.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 03:35 PM (DMoow)

445 >>>396 Nationalist Pikachu, may I ask what you do for a living? I think your comments are interesting vis a vis the information about IQ, etc. You don't have to answer, of course.
Posted by: moki at March 27, 2018 03:26 PM (V+V4

_________

I'm a Mechanical Engineer and have ten years experience with offshore oil and other naval related fields including cranes ROVs and subsea stuff.

My extermely minor claim to fame is that while I did not work on the recovery efforts after the BP deepwater Horizon fiasco, I know people who did. Same with the Cougar Ace screw up (lesser known).

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:35 PM (z8Nrh)

446 well, by the start of this kids sophomore year getting hogging or getting hogged will be the term for whatever the most disgusting sexual thing kids do in college.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 27, 2018 03:36 PM (MTjB1)

447 The David Hogg of an earlier age, Senator John McVain, is set to release a new memoir and promised his publisher a "no holds barred" attack on Trump.

Give in to the Dark Side John. Let it flow through you. Feel it's power. Give vent to your anger.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 27, 2018 03:36 PM (LISuA)

448 And that was about it. There were books on how to study for the SAT ... but I think it just got you used to the format.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2018 03:31 PM (DMoow)

The way scoring work on the SAT, incorrect answers are counted as negative values (-.25 iirc). So if you could eliminate two wrong answers, you were better off guessing.

That was basically my sole takeaway from an SAT prep course. That and like 5 practice exams that did what you mentioned.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at March 27, 2018 03:36 PM (mk7Bj)

449 I dunno. I think this kid is gonna flame out and he will not handle it well. There is a rage inside of him that is very plain to see.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 27, 2018 03:36 PM (zRZaJ)

450 Wait - we know his SAT score but not his birthdate or how old he is???? This still smells.

Posted by: Jack Cade at March 27, 2018 03:36 PM (BmpSy)

451 You have to actually know stuff to get right answers. Of course, there can be some gaming with multiple choice tests - which is where the SAT suffers - but they used to penalize wrong answers to somewhat account for that. Still, these standardized tests are pretty good measures, if not quite what they once were, due to caving to the whiners.
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Umm, not really. True/False and Multiple Choice Tests are not perfect. They are cheap to administer and grade. I saw this a lot with kids who went to big universities with +100 student classes. They saw nothing but T/F/Multi questions and could not converse orally or in writing well. This cost them a lot in terms of retention and advancement. Picking a right answer is not necessarily what you're seeking with education.

Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:36 PM (2LelM)

452 I've read the Richard Feynmann had an IQ of 125. WTF? Can that possibly be right?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:37 PM (rIXu3)

453 For all those who think Microsoft is a alternative to google...think again:

https://tinyurl.com/ybndsvhs

It is like they are trying to outdo each other in PC. Microsoft will punish you for offensive language even in private?

Posted by: William Eaton at March 27, 2018 03:33 PM (MuTTO)

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I've moved more and more over to Linux in the last couple of years. Guess that's going to just about do it for me.

Posted by: Moron el-Robbie - Bama's boot stomping on the face of college football forever at March 27, 2018 03:37 PM (ks6bw)

454 David has been rejected by the 4 University of California campuses where he submitted applications
...............

Did he apply as male or female?

Posted by: wth at March 27, 2018 03:37 PM (HgMAr)

455 Mrs. Peel, my daughter actually beat you. She can write her own ticket, and she's white!

Posted by: spongeworthy at March 27, 2018 03:37 PM (35Slc)

456 How many minutes does this kid have left? By 2020 he will be campaigning for joe Biden by drawing a crowd of a half dozen to a Denny's parking lot.

Imagine if this was 2020, he would have a prime time slot at the DNC.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 27, 2018 03:37 PM (oc/77)

457 408 I can see Hogg broke down on the side of the road yelling into his cell phone.

'Yeah dad I know what a lug wrench is !!'

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2018 03:27 PM (r7qNw)
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I can see him doing that too.
And the problem with that kid is not that he has no idea what a lug wrench is. The problem is that he pretends he DOES.
Any sensible person would want to fix the damned tire and would ask for instructions without worrying about his image and status.
Camera Hogg is ALL about image and not about real solutions.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 27, 2018 03:38 PM (0jtPF)

458 Thanks Fen

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at March 27, 2018 03:38 PM (jfUum)

459 Didn't they change the SAT recently to make it where guessing was acceptable?

Posted by: Moron el-Robbie - Bama's boot stomping on the face of college football forever at March 27, 2018 03:38 PM (ks6bw)

460 I've read the Richard Feynmann had an IQ of 125. WTF? Can that possibly be right?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:37 PM (rIXu3)

No.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 03:38 PM (8gDQu)

461 David got accepted at Cal Poly, Cal State San Marcos and Florida Atlantic University, but he's not sure what he'll do after graduating.
.............

Besides make everybody around him miserable?

Posted by: wth at March 27, 2018 03:38 PM (HgMAr)

462 you know when hogg's dad had the talk about the birds and bees with him he skipped the woman half.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 27, 2018 03:39 PM (MTjB1)

463 David got accepted at Cal Poly, Cal State San Marcos and Florida Atlantic University, but he's not sure what he'll do after graduating.
.............

Work for the FBI?

Posted by: wth at March 27, 2018 03:39 PM (HgMAr)

464 Essay tests can be either harder or easier - you've got to get to know the teacher/professor who's doing the grading. Once you know that, you just learn what all their pet academic fetishes are and you regurgitate those on paper, regardless of whether or not it has anything to do with the question that was asked. You'll always score a 95+ with that technique.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2018 03:34 PM (k1TUh)

Spot on. I aced a college Shakespeare oral exam without reading any of the plays covered--just Cliff Notes , a few select passages and quotes and regurgitating the prof's obsessions. When it came to essays or oral exams, I was at my best because I could bullshit my way through.

Posted by: Russia at March 27, 2018 03:39 PM (7uYFy)

465 Umm, not really. True/False and Multiple Choice Tests are not perfect. They are cheap to administer and grade. I saw this a lot with kids who went to big universities with +100 student classes. They saw nothing but T/F/Multi questions and could not converse orally or in writing well. This cost them a lot in terms of retention and advancement. Picking a right answer is not necessarily what you're seeking with education.
Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:36 PM (2LelM)

I used to deprecate multiple choice tests until as an adult I took (for a professional qualification) that was actually demanding as hell. One of the choices was risible, but the others were various shades of kinda correct, but not exactly. So which one was MORE correct? Hmm. Close call.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:40 PM (rIXu3)

466 off Russia sock......

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:40 PM (7uYFy)

467 when hoggs dad had the talk about the birds and the bees with him he told him to make sure his date always wore a condom.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 27, 2018 03:40 PM (MTjB1)

468 They raised the gpa scale to 5 for the millenial shits??

Posted by: Soothie at March 27, 2018 03:12 PM (jdPh/)

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I think they weight AP and Honors courses.

Doesn't matter anyway. Most all the good schools take the transcript apart and recalculate GPA's according to their own rules, usually ignoring courses like "Social Justice Warriorship" in favor of hard sciences and advanced math.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 27, 2018 03:40 PM (LISuA)

469 Awesome, spongeworthy! Good for her :-)

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at March 27, 2018 03:41 PM (kB/Vf)

470

What sound does Davie make when he falls down?

'Ttttttttttttttttwwwwwwwiiiiiiinnnkk!'

Posted by: In Vito Veritits at March 27, 2018 03:41 PM (E78bp)

471 449 I dunno. I think this kid is gonna flame out and he will not handle it well. There is a rage inside of him that is very plain to see.

His comments in that "die f'ing adults" video gives me a sense that Pigg is headed for a Sheehan-styled flameout.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 27, 2018 03:41 PM (Dn4Uq)

472 460 I've read the Richard Feynmann had an IQ of 125. WTF? Can that possibly be right?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:37 PM (rIXu3)

No.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 27, 2018 03:38 PM (8gDQu)

That was my reaction too. A guy who comes up with quantum electrodynamics is no dummy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:41 PM (rIXu3)

473 438 Since we are talking SATs andstuff, what do you guys think of University of Scranton? Is it liberal or conservative?
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Since I sat in a bar drinking an Old Fashion just around the corner from U of Scranton my knowledge is it is Catholic and considered a very good school. Expensive though.

The bar was located in the old Train Station. U of Scranton is just down the block. Electric City - FTW!

Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:41 PM (2LelM)

474 Didn't they change the SAT recently to make it where guessing was acceptable?
Posted by: Moron el-Robbie - Bama's boot stomping on the face of college football forever at March 27, 2018 03:38 PM (ks6bw)

Guessing is always acceptable. As long as you guess right.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:42 PM (7uYFy)

475 The Hogg kid has had his 15 mins of fame. I don't even know why I've typed this much about it since I have zero f*cks to give...

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at March 27, 2018 03:42 PM (8SR1L)

476 That was my reaction too. A guy who comes up with quantum electrodynamics is no dummy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:41 PM (rIXu3)

Lol

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:42 PM (7uYFy)

477 You can't have your meat unless you have your pudding.

Posted by: Pink Floyd at March 27, 2018 03:43 PM (hXeKX)

478 His comments in that "die f'ing adults" video gives me a sense that Pigg is headed for a Sheehan-styled flameout.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat?

Cruz style flameout.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2018 03:43 PM (z8tEv)

479 Cruz style flameout.

G-d, let's hope not.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 27, 2018 03:43 PM (Dn4Uq)

480 what do you guys think of University of Scranton?
..........

Great if you want to work at Dunder Mifflin.

Posted by: wth at March 27, 2018 03:43 PM (HgMAr)

481
I used to deprecate multiple choice tests until as an adult I took (for a professional qualification) that was actually demanding as hell. One of the choices was risible, but the others were various shades of kinda correct, but not exactly. So which one was MORE correct? Hmm. Close call.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:40 PM (rIXu3)

Yeah, four days of fill in the dot testing was just about enough. Then there was the 12 hour deal on Friday, a full design and production test, hand-drafted. This was the dark ages, back when architects actually had to know stuff.

I don't remember driving home after that. In fact, I think I slept the entire weekend.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 03:44 PM (7UW64)

482 Feynman daid he got the 125 IQ score when they tested in school, when he was around 12
They must have calculated it differently back then

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at March 27, 2018 03:44 PM (jfUum)

483 *inferiority complex looking up old ACT scores*

Posted by: auscolpyr pissbott at March 27, 2018 03:44 PM (suO/a)

484 I had to take a pee test once.

Posted by: Roland THTG at March 27, 2018 03:44 PM (xBSm0)

485 >>>427 Takimag is worse.

Half the comments are "Send the blacks back to Africa whether they want to go or not", and the other Half are "Why haven't we handed Israel over to the Muslims yet?"
Posted by: Hikaru at March 27, 2018 03:25 PM (XMDuf)

Sad but true. Even though Takimag has some very witty writers, their not so subtle anti-Semitic notion that writing Israel off would mean no more Muslim problems is disgusting. Ask the Euros how that worked out....
Posted by: Curmudgeon at March 27, 2018 03:32 PM (ujg0T)
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And that's part of the depressing stuff I was talking about.

There are some truely horrific implications that some of the current intelligence research shows with regards to genetics and IQ, particularly race and nature vs nurture. Stuff that will get you shitcanned or worse if you repeat it.

The important thing to remember is that intelligence is an ever Changing field and it's super slow to even get new research funded BECAUSE of some of that stuff. Nobody, government, corporate or academic is going to pay for research if there is even a possibility that the study could even be implausably used by racists or sexists.

Most of the funding for it comes from helping the disabled, and the normies get studied ONLY as a control group. That's how toxic a lot of the intelligence research is now a days. Think about that.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:44 PM (z8Nrh)

486 Cal Poly ftw. Then after graduating, just stay in San Luis Obispo, because you can.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 27, 2018 03:46 PM (LISuA)

487
484 I had to take a pee test once.

Posted by: Roland THTG at March 27, 2018 03:44 PM (xBSm0)

Did you hit the cup?

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 03:46 PM (7UW64)

488 482 Feynman daid he got the 125 IQ score when they tested in school, when he was around 12
They must have calculated it differently back then
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at March 27, 2018 03:44 PM (jfUum)

Actually, that's probably the best age at which to administer IQ tests, before the person has a lot of learning, so you can measure native ability.

As mentioned above, everybody has good and bad days, and I suspect that they caught him on a bad day for that test.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:46 PM (rIXu3)

489 Cal Poly ftw. Then after graduating, just stay in San Luis Obispo, because you can.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 27, 2018 03:46 PM (LISuA)

There's a reason it's filled with SLO people.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 27, 2018 03:46 PM (uiwCw)

490 473 438 Since we are talking SATs andstuff, what do you guys think of University of Scranton? Is it liberal or conservative?
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Since I sat in a bar drinking an Old Fashion just around the corner from U of Scranton my knowledge is it is Catholic and considered a very good school. Expensive though.

The bar was located in the old Train Station. U of Scranton is just down the block. Electric City - FTW!
Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:41 PM (2LelM)

1. It's Catholic.

2. It's expensive.

3. It's a good school.

4. It's a bad idea to wander too far from campus after dark.

(Scranton has seen much, much better days.)

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at March 27, 2018 03:47 PM (RD7QR)

491 477 You can't have your meat unless you have your pudding."

How can you have any pudding if you don't beat your meat?

(that is what they sang, isn't it?)

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2018 03:47 PM (k1TUh)

492 I had to take a pee test once.
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 27, 2018 03:44 PM (xBSm0)

Think positive!

Posted by: hogmartin at March 27, 2018 03:47 PM (y87Qq)

493 I used to deprecate multiple choice tests until as an adult I took (for a professional qualification) that was actually demanding as hell. One of the choices was risible, but the others were various shades of kinda correct, but not exactly. So which one was MORE correct? Hmm. Close call.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:40 PM (rIXu3)

The multistate portion of the bar exam is like that.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 03:47 PM (NWiLs)

494 Guessing is always acceptable. As long as you guess right.
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Honestly I don't remember the advise on whether to or no to guess. I do know its best to jump over questions that stump you and come back to them. Often questions further on will give you the clue to solving the brain fart questions.

Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:47 PM (2LelM)

495
Yo, corgis.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 27, 2018 03:47 PM (XWkhW)

496 You can't have your meat unless you have your pudding.
Posted by: Pink Floyd at March 27, 2018 03:43 PM (hXeKX)

NO. It's you can't get any pudding if you don't beat your meat.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2018 03:48 PM (7uYFy)

497 Medical board exams are the worst.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 27, 2018 03:48 PM (oc/77)

498 441
I used to carry one that was three feet long. How else can I compete with those power wrenches.?

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 03:30 PM (7UW64)

Almost had a wheel fall off because the tire shop guys forgot to tighten the lug nuts on one wheel. So it has been my habit ever since to loosen and torque all the lug nuts at home whenever a tire is worked on in a shop.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 27, 2018 03:35 PM (aVYsC)

It is common recommendation to retorque nuts on aluminum rims after they have been installed. I have lost a tire by not doing so. My FIL nearly lost one.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 27, 2018 03:48 PM (Dp6qK)

499 There's a reason it's filled with SLO people.
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Hogg will calm down spending four years there, studying nutrition or whatever, and by then he will fit right in.

Beautiful though. And good beer.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 27, 2018 03:48 PM (LISuA)

500 487
484 I had to take a pee test once.

Posted by: Roland THTG at March 27, 2018 03:44 PM (xBSm0)

Did you hit the cup?
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 03:46 PM (7UW64)

And from what distance?

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 03:48 PM (NWiLs)

501 Even though Takimag has some very witty writers, their not so subtle anti-Semitic notion that writing Israel off would mean no more Muslim problems is disgusting. Ask the Euros how that worked out....

To be fair, if you actually do ask Euros they think it's going just fine. A very good friend of mine who's gay moved to Sweden. Willingly. And he thinks there's no trouble at all with Muslims, they're great because they make kebob.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 27, 2018 03:49 PM (3J/LN)

502 Along with the ACT and the SAT we also had to take an aptitude test,

My test said I should go into occupational therapy. Maybe they meant I should go into therapy for my choice of occupation.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 27, 2018 03:49 PM (KIHfI)

503 500 487
484 I had to take a pee test once.

Posted by: Roland THTG at March 27, 2018 03:44 PM (xBSm0)

Did you hit the cup?
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 27, 2018 03:46 PM (7UW64)

And from what distance?
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 27, 2018 03:48 PM (NWiLs)

Did you prepare for it by drinking a couple of beers?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:50 PM (rIXu3)

504 Nood

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at March 27, 2018 03:51 PM (ks6bw)

505 Nood on California

Posted by: Boots at March 27, 2018 03:51 PM (EBwPV)

506 My test said I should go into occupational therapy. Maybe they meant I should go into therapy for my choice of occupation.
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I was told to join the Merchant Marine. A lot my friends had the same answer.

Posted by: Gumby at March 27, 2018 03:51 PM (2LelM)

507 Hogg will calm down spending four years there, studying nutrition or whatever, and by then he will fit right in.

Beautiful though. And good beer.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 27, 2018 03:48 PM (LISuA)
Are they the banana slugs? Or is that a different school?

Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 03:51 PM (a0IVu)

508
"The important thing to remember is that intelligence is an ever Changing field and it's super slow to even get new research funded BECAUSE of some of that stuff. "

The really strange thing about what we call "intelligence" is that there are several different kinds, and many of them don't show up in a testing environment.

a good example - my wife will say she doesn't have a good memory, and doesn't do too well in academic "study the book, spit out the answers" type situations. However, without any effort at all she remembers all the lyrics to every song she's ever heard, including commercials when she was a kid in the 60's (that makes for a fun game) It's rather amazing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2018 03:51 PM (k1TUh)

509 meanwhile , Gonzalez is still a bully who pushed Cruz over the edge

Posted by: Avi at March 27, 2018 03:54 PM (Gcl/7)

510 Are they the banana slugs? Or is that a different school?
Posted by: IC at March 27, 2018 03:51 PM (a0IVu)

That's UC Santa Cruz. Also known as the "Bouncing Chancellors."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:54 PM (rIXu3)

511 Start a pool on when this Josef Goebbels wanna-be gets arrested and for what?

I would guess in about 8 months when he realizes his 15 minutes are up and he will get arrested for DUI.

It would be hilarious if he got arrest for sticking up a gas station but Karma has been rather slow on the draw these last few years.

Posted by: JB1000 at March 27, 2018 03:54 PM (16OL0)

512 but he's not sure what he'll do after graduating.
Sucking dick? [See? I put a question mark there so it's okay.]

Posted by: andycanuck at March 27, 2018 03:55 PM (ewxPW)

513 >>>508
"The important thing to remember is that intelligence is an ever Changing field and it's super slow to even get new research funded BECAUSE of some of that stuff. "

The really strange thing about what we call "intelligence" is that there are several different kinds, and many of them don't show up in a testing environment.

a good example - my wife will say she doesn't have a good memory, and doesn't do too well in academic "study the book, spit out the answers" type situations. However, without any effort at all she remembers all the lyrics to every song she's ever heard, including commercials when she was a kid in the 60's (that makes for a fun game) It's rather amazing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2018 03:51 PM (k1TUh)
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All of the different "kinds" of intelligence are extremely correlated with 'g' general intelligence which IQ measures to the point that you can estimate one off of the other with astonishing accuracy.

Jordan Peterson has some videos on YouTube discussing some of these topics at length if you want to get your feet wet in the topic.

But like I said, it can be facinating, but bloody depressing stuff

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:56 PM (z8Nrh)

514 >>>488
Actually, that's probably the best age at which to administer IQ tests, before the person has a lot of learning, so you can measure native ability.

As mentioned above, everybody has good and bad days, and I suspect that they caught him on a bad day for that test.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 27, 2018 03:46 PM (rIXu3)
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You can measure both "Native" liquid intelligence and "Accumulated" Crystallized intelligence.

They are correlated a lot because you have to have liquid intelligence to accumulate the crystalized form.

Of course if you sit around fapping all day, you might not no matter how smart you are.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:59 PM (z8Nrh)

515 I am pretty good at tests. SAT was a 1500 when that meant something. Two times I blew through the top on the IQ test score. One they gave it "over 150." One they guessed 212. One I got a real score on, it was 186.

However, I am pretty much a dumbass, so not sure what any of those mean.

Posted by: blaster at March 27, 2018 04:01 PM (Z5y53)

516 Those are shit SATs. I'd be concerned as a parent if my kid had a 4.2 and SATs like that.

Shit. My Sophomore took the SATs , without the essay, in order to practice and got a 1260. He says didn't even know how to do half the math.

Posted by: Lost My Cookies at March 27, 2018 04:02 PM (aRDaB)

517 The SAT changed its scoring scale again in 2016. The max score is 1600 again after being 2400 for about a decade. Hogg's score puts him somewhere in the 85-90 percentile of test takers. It's pretty common for the "elite brains" to have GPAs in the 4.5-5.0 range if they pile up the honors/AP classes, still, a 4.2 is more than respectable. If a 4.2/1260 doesn't get you into one of the UC schools (a state system), then something is fishy in the admittance department - but I guess that's no surprise. I'm sure Evergreen State would be happy to have him.

Posted by: ZonToro at March 27, 2018 04:06 PM (P0e9G)

518 Too funny. First, liddle Hogg's GPA and scores are not that impressive.
Worse, with the UC is that there is a whole bunch of SJW, GBLT/blacks/Dreamers, out of state and international students waiting in line for admission ahead of him with the same scores, but with bigly social justice factors.
White and Asian males get to compete against each other, and way too many of them have far higher scores, GPA, AP participation, sports and other activities.
Guaranteed the Cal Poly he speaks of is Pomona, no way would he make it into SLO, the best and hardest to get into campus in the Cal State system.
Hogg is nothing special, but anointed by the media. No doubt, Stanford or Harvard will send him an offer.

Posted by: standfast24 at March 27, 2018 04:06 PM (PNFIr)

519 >>>He rides a bike...for Gaia.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat?<<<

Well, there's your problem, right there. When I was 17, it was all about fast cars, fast women, and guns.

Posted by: Fritz at March 27, 2018 04:12 PM (bJ0w+)

520 A final point, was at UC San Diego a few years ago, their average incoming SAT, GPA and AP participation was off the charts, like in the top 3%.
Even then, they could not admit all the students who wanted to get into the Jacobs School of Engineering and other top schools.
The UC system seems to be the favorite system for all of Asia as well as the top of CA and US High Schools. Cal, UCLA, UCSB and UCSD are incredibly popular with UCSD, Cal and UCLA with the best academic ratings.
No friggin way Hogg gets anywhere near those schools without special consideration as a minority.

Posted by: standfast24 at March 27, 2018 04:17 PM (PNFIr)

521 I see other people said what I was going to say - Hogg isn't good enough for the UC system.

Posted by: Dianna at March 27, 2018 04:21 PM (DV/Ik)

522 I'm a Mechanical Engineer and have ten years experience with offshore oil and other naval related fields including cranes ROVs and subsea stuff.

My extermely minor claim to fame is that while I did not work on the recovery efforts after the BP deepwater Horizon fiasco, I know people who did. Same with the Cougar Ace screw up (lesser known).
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 03:35 PM (z8Nrh)

Sorry, I stepped away to make chili. No carrots, because I'm a purist.

Very interesting. Did you study the psychology of intelligence, or is that just side reading? There are a lot of the Horde who have near expert proficiency in subjects not pertaining to their main area of work. It's part of why this place is so enjoyable.

I appreciate what you do for the rigs-that is not easy work.

Posted by: moki at March 27, 2018 04:31 PM (V+V48)

523
However, I am pretty much a dumbass, so not sure what any of those mean.
Posted by: blaster at March 27, 2018 04:01 PM (Z5y53)

No. You just realize that there's a lot you don't know. The older I get, the more I realize that. Young punks think they know all they need. The smart ones figure out very quickly that's not true. The others...well that's how we get this Hogg fellow.

Posted by: moki at March 27, 2018 04:33 PM (V+V48)

524 >>>Sorry, I stepped away to make chili. No carrots, because I'm a purist.

Very interesting. Did you study the psychology of intelligence, or is that just side reading? There are a lot of the Horde who have near expert proficiency in subjects not pertaining to their main area of work. It's part of why this place is so enjoyable.

I appreciate what you do for the rigs-that is not easy work.
Posted by: moki at March 27, 2018 04:31 PM (V+V4

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Intelligence was a topic of extreme interested a few years ago when my neice was taking the SAT. Right now I'm reading a lot on Scott Adam's persuasion stuff.

As I mentioned earlier, There's plenty of You Tube videos by Jordan Peterson on intelligence research and it's implications if you want to get your feet wet. He is extremely articulate and easy to follow.

And yes, he's the same Jordan Peterson from the Cathy Newman interview featured on AoS a while back.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 27, 2018 04:40 PM (z8Nrh)

525 Hey David, my kid was admitted to UCSB, lots of surf, babes, parties and a terrific bar scene. He loved it and brought home some of the hottest co-eds his dad every saw. Academics were too tough though for board scores of 1270. Kind of arrogant of you to think 1270 gets you in.

Too bad you'll miss it.

Posted by: changey at March 27, 2018 06:12 PM (6xW7C)

526 This is completely FUBAR. How does the same person have that GPA and that SAT score?

It sounds like they're allowing a lot of non-academic enhancement to the GPA, making for high expectations and a mediocre outcome.

Posted by: epobirs at March 27, 2018 07:23 PM (AJKgl)

527 This was the same Hogg who was faking camera interviews in a closet at 9:30 AM in his own words when the shooting occurred at 2:30 PM.

And what teenaged high schooler has to go home for his camera when every freaking teen in America has a cell phone that shoots 1080p video?

And why in hell did the Broward Cowards let a kid with a camera wander through their crime scene?

Keep in mind CBS is the proud parent of the TANG Papers...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 27, 2018 07:30 PM (fZlu3)

528 I still would like to see a map of the buildings and where all these kids were in relation to the shooter. I'd also like to know if any of the spokeschildren actually know the names of any of the dead students.

Posted by: MargieinMN at March 27, 2018 08:25 PM (IpqhD)

529 I'm pretty sure that "diverse" means "non-white", as in, "The neighborhood was very diverse, Bangladeshi to be precise."

Posted by: SciVo at March 28, 2018 09:21 AM (sAsvC)

530 Sorry I'm so late to this thread but just felt the need to comment:

Let's see: non CA resident, white, male, and a 1270
SAT and he applied to UCLA? that's hilarious.

I would like to correct the person who claims a 1500 SAT is only a so-so score... Less than 2% of the people who take the SAT's score that high. It also seems like a few other people don't understand that the top score is no longer 2400 and it's back to 1600.

Posted by: ADK46er at March 29, 2018 09:41 PM (plRt2)

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