Omar Mateen's Father Was an FBI Source; Noor Mateen's Defense Team Was Not Told This Until After the Prosecution Had Rested

Which means she didn't get to cross-examine the prosecution's witnesses with this information. Her claim -- probably a lie, but who knows these days -- is that Omar Mateen's father, Seddique Mateen, was actually the Pulse nightclub shooter's co-conspirator. She would use this claim to buttress a new defense, that she herself was Just a Girl Standing In Front of Boy Saying She Likes Him (and Would Be Interested in Helping Him Buy Guns and Stuff).

This is kind of a mess, and could very well result in a mistrial.

I can kind of understand why no one would want to disclose the identity of a confidential informant. And I'm not sure why the prosecution would necessarily have to disclose this. Prosecutors have to disclose all exculpatory information, but how is the fact that Omar Mateen's father being an FBI informant exculpatory? Sure, Noor Mateen and her lawyers can retroactively construct some kind of conspiracy theory in which the FBI is trying to cover up the Real Co-Conspirator, but... a claim is not evidence.

Possibly evidentiary: The fact that Seddique Mateen, Omar's dad, is under investigation for sending sums of money to Turkey and Pakistan.

However, as Ed Morrissey notes, Seddique Mateen had already been reported by the media to be an online agitator for jihadists. Noor Mateen's defense team must have known that much -- so why didn't they already have this theory that Seddique was Omar's partner-in-crime and explore that at trial? Why was it only when they learned that he was an FBI source that this angle became interesting to them?

In addition, Seddique Mateen's FBI handler had met with Omar Mateen and was considering developing him as a source too.

It's a bit weird that the FBI had an informant whose son turned out to be a terrorist, and thought about recruiting a guy who turned terrorist too, but... you know, if you're looking to get information on the drug trade, you're going to recruit informants who are junkies and dealers. If you're trying to get information about terrorists, you're going to recruit CI's who move in the world of radical jihadism.

The judge has delayed ruling on whether a mistrial should be declared until after the testimony of Omar Mateen's handler.

I'm not sure if I can say the FBI acted wrongly here, but, as usual with the FBI, it's at least all a mess.


Posted by: Ace of Spades at 03:35 PM




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1 First!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at March 26, 2018 03:32 PM (vg8iE)

2 And they could have put this out in front and not had to get a mistrial, but they chose to hide it form the Defense. It's like they don't want her tried.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 26, 2018 03:32 PM (+Dllb)

3 I said at the time of the event that this was a Federal shooting.
I still have the scorch marks.

Posted by: navybrat at March 26, 2018 03:32 PM (w7KSn)

4 We are talking about the same FBI that lost her for a few weeks, so anything is possible.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 26, 2018 03:33 PM (uiwCw)

5 The FBI again?

Posted by: wth at March 26, 2018 03:33 PM (HgMAr)

6 So Pulse and Las Vegas were FBI actors?

Posted by: Gumby at March 26, 2018 03:33 PM (2LelM)

7 Fourth? And I even read the content!!

Posted by: Action Jackson is my name. Bold adventure is my game. at March 26, 2018 03:33 PM (0SPyv)

8 I coulda been a contender...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at March 26, 2018 03:33 PM (p6e8W)

9
Of what use is the FBI, except to obstruct justice?

It's time is over - abolish it!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 26, 2018 03:33 PM (pNxlR)

10 OK. I'll still take 7th.

Posted by: Action Jackson is my name. Bold adventure is my game. at March 26, 2018 03:34 PM (0SPyv)

11 Ace may not be willing to say it, but I will:
The FBI acted wrongly here.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 26, 2018 03:34 PM (xJa6I)

12 There need to be some real consequences for prosecutorial misconduct.

This kind of c**p is becoming more and more common, and it's because prosecutors know that they can get away with it.

Posted by: The ARC of History at March 26, 2018 03:34 PM (Mrl1e)

13 What is with the FBI?

Posted by: HH at March 26, 2018 03:34 PM (mIJBI)

14 We are talking about the same FBI that lost her for a few weeks, so anything is possible.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 26, 2018 03:33 PM (uiwCw)
...........

They ever find those pesky car keys?

Posted by: wth at March 26, 2018 03:34 PM (HgMAr)

15 OT - But it bears repeating, and enjoying, repeatedly.

Its my birthday and I didn't get an OIG Report. I'm pissed. I was promised an OIG Report and all I got was a cake.


Posted by: Gumby at March 26, 2018 03:27 PM (2LelM)



We got you something for your birthday.

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/DG9i_3gVoAALoC9.jpg


Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 03:35 PM (Dp6qK)

16 Ace, my understanding is that the prosecution listed the elder Mateen as a witness, even though they never actually called him. They were supposed to apprise the defense of any relationship between the prosecutors and the witnesses, and (obviously) neglected to do so.

Whether this means the FBI knows more about this shooting than we've heard, who knows.

Posted by: Sausage McMuffin at March 26, 2018 03:35 PM (e4ZX9)

17 There is some kind of script file that runs on the main page that my work computer just hates...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at March 26, 2018 03:35 PM (p6e8W)

18 Every. Single. Time. I think there's a bottom to this rabbit-hole, it just gets deeper.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 26, 2018 03:35 PM (fA1SL)

19 The best of D.C. strikes again...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 26, 2018 03:35 PM (auUHv)

20 The really sad/irritating thing for me?
I wanted to BE an FBI agent back when I was a lil member of the Republican Radical Right.

Now, I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror if I worked for such a corrupt, incompetent organization.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 26, 2018 03:35 PM (xJa6I)

21 7
Fourth? And I even read the content!!

Posted by: Action Jackson is my name. Bold adventure is my game. at March 26, 2018 03:33 PM (0SPyv)


I give it a solid FBI+

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 03:35 PM (Dp6qK)

22 Is there anything the FBI can't fuck up? Even a can't miss terror prosecution...

Blow it up. Fire them all. Start over. Previous federal LEO experience is a disqualifying factor.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 26, 2018 03:36 PM (rBnYq)

23 18 Every. Single. Time. I think there's a bottom to this rabbit-hole, it just gets deeper.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 26, 2018 03:35 PM (fA1SL)

Let your hate flow...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 26, 2018 03:36 PM (xJa6I)

24 They didn't act wrongly, just stupidly. More stupidly than the guys who questioned that prof breaking into his own house.

Posted by: GregV61 at March 26, 2018 03:36 PM (FLpne)

25 I used to think the military/security arms of the government were immune to the typical bureaucratic BS waste of existence that plague all other aspects of the deep state.

I don't think that anymore.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 26, 2018 03:36 PM (72PAC)

26
Someone needs to go all Efram Zimballistic on the FBI.

It needs to be abolished and the crime lab rolled into some other organization.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2018 03:36 PM (VM6ev)

27 Hey, there's a reason why almost nothing has been disclosed about the Las Vegas shooter.

Since's he's dead, we can bury the bodies, and forget all about it.

Posted by: Your Friends At The FBI at March 26, 2018 03:36 PM (Mrl1e)

28 Prosecutors have to disclose all exculpatory information, but how is the fact that Omar Mateen's father being an FBI informant exculpatory? Sure, Noor Mateen and her lawyers can retroactively construct some kind of conspiracy theory in which the FBI is trying to cover up the Real Co-Conspirator, but... a claim is not evidence.
========
Well these days with the FBI its a problem cause they don't have much in the way of credibility left.

Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 03:36 PM (TxlT5)

29 How knew "Die hard" was prophetic?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2018 03:36 PM (5y11N)

30 I blame Russian bots

Posted by: brak at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (VckGX)

31 3 I said at the time of the event that this was a Federal shooting. I still have the scorch marks.
Posted by: navybrat at March 26, 2018 03:32 PM (w7KSn)


Well ... this should be fun.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (DMoow)

32 The FBI does appear to be completely fuckeled during the Obama years like pretty much everything else they touched but doesn't most of the blame here fall on the prosecutors not the FBI?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (/tuJf)

33 26
Someone needs to go all Efram Zimballistic on the FBI.

It needs to be abolished and the crime lab rolled into some other organization.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2018 03:36 PM (VM6ev)

Someone needs to go J. Edgar on the FBI.
They were a corrupt joke before he took over. Whatever his flaws, and he had many, he made them a professional organization.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (xJa6I)

34 The FBI? Well, tear my arm off.

Posted by: Inspector Krogh at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (HgMAr)

35 I have no great sympathy for the defendant, but it is one of the most basic rules of conducting a fair trial, that the defense has GOT to be told about any information that the Prosecution has developed which could aid in the Defendants defense. Or to put it more plainly, we do not allow Prosecutors to use State resources to find out information and then hide that information from the defendant in order to make it easier to get a conviction. That is one of the hallmarks of a totally corrupt court - and whether she is innocent or guilty, this Judge should declare a mistrial and start the whole thing over with a new jury.

It is the Prosecution's Corruption that has ruined this case, not anything that the defendant has done.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (k1TUh)

36 Don't forget that islamo-shootey-dad appeared prominently at hillary rally.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (Dp6qK)

37 You can be unsure about the FBI.

I'll be never trusting them again.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: nip at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (ECLaL)

38 How about we just blow up the whole Mateen family...

Do I need a Sarc tag?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (ILWp4)

39 Soo, it turns out Camera Hogg was not in school on the day of the shooting.
What a survivor!

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (hMwEB)

40 I feel sorry for Ace. He read something that Ed wrote. That's become a very painful exercise.

Posted by: gm at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (/LIOp)

41 17

Yep

Ace I'm getting a malicious "internet security alert" page from the site.

Hit power off on my machine and posting from my phone.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (kD732)

42 27 Hey, there's a reason why almost nothing has been disclosed about the Las Vegas shooter.

Since's he's dead, we can bury the bodies, and forget all about it.
Posted by: Your Friends At The FBI at March 26, 2018 03:36 PM (Mrl1e)

She shank by 3 inches and his eyes turned from blue to brown after he died. Also benzos were found in his bladder and that's it.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (ZghNV)

43 Trump was boning that porno woman, who is probably a Russian spy.

Posted by: Roland THTG at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (xBSm0)

44 >>>39 Soo, it turns out Camera Hogg was not in school on the day of the shooting.
What a survivor!
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (hMwEB)>>>

Where you get that info?

Posted by: gm at March 26, 2018 03:39 PM (/LIOp)

45 I'm not even very certain the Lab is worth saving JJ. As I recall, AtC developed a pretty comprehensive indictment of their performance at trial.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 26, 2018 03:39 PM (rBnYq)

46 Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (k1TUh)

Yep. And withholding information - even if it does not in fact bear on the matter at hand - invites the suspicion that it does, and that that's why the information was withheld.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2018 03:39 PM (YqDXo)

47 30
I blame Russian bots

Posted by: brak at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (VckGX)

Anti semitic russian bots.

Posted by: muckrack at March 26, 2018 03:39 PM (RZ4iC)

48 Why does the FBI hate Florida?

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 26, 2018 03:39 PM (+087i)

49
34 The FBI? Well, tear my arm off.
Posted by: Inspector Krogh at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (HgMAr)


You, you ... brutes!

* runs sobbing from the thread *

-- Michelle Fields

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 26, 2018 03:39 PM (pNxlR)

50 34 The FBI? Well, tear my arm off.
Posted by: Inspector Krogh at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (HgMAr)

sob....

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 26, 2018 03:39 PM (dQJCS)

51 The FBI? Well, tear my arm off. Posted by: Inspector Krogh

"Just rub it in why don't you?" - Michelle Fields.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 26, 2018 03:39 PM (ILWp4)

52 If we blow it up, I wanna know where Hoffa is

Posted by: ATCGuy at March 26, 2018 03:40 PM (6wCy8)

53 Headline on American Thinker: On 60 Minutes Stormy Daniels Blew Her Credibility

I was amused.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 03:40 PM (nBr1j)

54 33 Someone needs to go J. Edgar on the FBI.
They were a corrupt joke before he took over. Whatever his flaws, and he had many, he made them a professional organization.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (xJa6I)


They were professional alright, but mostly as being a sort of rogue secret police organization. They are still that as is by now well documented, but they are bumbling idiots when it comes to protecting Americans from terrorism and such. That I agree with you on.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2018 03:40 PM (VM6ev)

55 Major opinion column in WSJ today, reminiscing about how awful the FBI was when it was independent and how you don't want that. Kind of elides over the idea that it wasn't de jure independent, just that J. Edgar carved himself out a de facto imperial niche with clever intelligence leverage.

I think we have an agency or two today that's "independent" like that. If FBI operates directly under presidential authority, which is also not in their, um, charter, well the future first ladies are going to have a lot of tax accounting to do when they're not baking cookies, IYGWIM.

When I think about how all those communist agents and their sympathetic supporters were deprived of their full civil rights, it makes me wonder

why nobody had the balls to actually hang the sons of bitches. But I digress.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 26, 2018 03:40 PM (H5rtT)

56 It's like a reverse midas touch with the FBI.

Posted by: joncelli, little spirals in his eyes at March 26, 2018 03:40 PM (RD7QR)

57 53 Headline on American Thinker: On 60 Minutes Stormy Daniels Blew Her Credibility

I was amused.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 03:40 PM (nBr1j)


Credibility is Mel Gibson's middle name, I guess.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2018 03:40 PM (VM6ev)

58 after the feebs sat back and fapped when the jihad tried to take out Spencer and Solders in Garland, I didn't bother flaming navybrat when he said that. I don't put anything past this corrupt agency.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2018 03:41 PM (MOwG6)

59 So Herr OberstDerpFuhrer Hogg was skipping class that day? Uh link?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 26, 2018 03:41 PM (ILWp4)

60 whoa
triple jinx

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 26, 2018 03:41 PM (dQJCS)

61 *Sobs*

-Michelle Fields

Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 26, 2018 03:41 PM (BrQrN)

62 39
Soo, it turns out Camera Hogg was not in school on the day of the shooting.

What a survivor!

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (hMwEB)

True?!

Posted by: muckrack at March 26, 2018 03:41 PM (RZ4iC)

63 "Prosecutors have to disclose all exculpatory information, but how is the fact that Omar Mateen's father being an FBI informant exculpatory?"

The simple fact that all of us reading this are saying to ourselves, "Oh my God, Mateen's father was an FBI informant, on your payroll, and you knew that all this time and you never mentioned that to anybody?????"

If something is big enough to make everyone who hears about it drop their jaws, it's the kind of thing that should have been disclosed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2018 03:41 PM (k1TUh)

64 Recall "tear up Texas!"?

The FBI handler for the terrorists that went to shoot up Pam Geller's Draw Mohommad contest was present at the shooting and attempted to flee the scene. He was right behind the two terrorists when they exited the car and began shooting.

Posted by: DonS at March 26, 2018 03:41 PM (xpAyB)

65 Soo, it turns out Camera Hogg was not in school on the day of the shooting.
What a survivor!

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (hMwEB)
.............

Don't tell me. Playing hooky with Emma Gonzalez, who he thought was male?

Posted by: wth at March 26, 2018 03:42 PM (HgMAr)

66 62

he admits it

link
https://twitter.com/e30ben/status/978347379215577088

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 26, 2018 03:42 PM (hMwEB)

67 Hey, it would have been embarrassing for people to discover that one of our informants was possibly planning a mass murder with the shooter.

So we decided not to mention it.

Posted by: Your Friends At The FBI at March 26, 2018 03:42 PM (Mrl1e)

68 The FBI does appear to be completely fuckeled during the Obama years like pretty much everything else they touched but doesn't most of the blame here fall on the prosecutors not the FBI?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (/tuJf)


The FBI was sending HRTs to shoot women and kids, as well as burn down compounds, long before Barry rode into town.

That's the problem ... illustrated perfectly by our own JackStraw. This notion that the FBI was a Good, Just, and Noble Institution brought down by the evil Obama - and just waiting to be restored to its former glory.

No ... Barry simply wasn't smart enough or ambitious enough to "turn" the FBI. He just worked with the willing tools at hand.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 26, 2018 03:42 PM (DMoow)

69 39 Man I hate be all tin foil hatted but I kind of believe he may have known it was going to happen,maybe planned it.I know,I'm nuts.

Posted by: steevy at March 26, 2018 03:43 PM (LiyEm)

70 I thought Our Betters and Our Overloards via both Bushes, Clintons, and Obama said we had to fight Saudi Arabia's enemies the last 17 years to keep them them from attacking us at home? And yet the Muslim Brotherhood has managed to infiltrate every institution including the FBI and every other 3 letter agency.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 03:43 PM (ZghNV)

71 >>>>>"Prosecutors have to disclose all exculpatory
information, but how is the fact that Omar Mateen's father being an FBI
informant exculpatory?"



The simple fact that all of us reading this are saying to ourselves,
"Oh my God, Mateen's father was an FBI informant, on your payroll, and
you knew that all this time and you never mentioned that to
anybody?????"



If something is big enough to make everyone who hears about it drop
their jaws, it's the kind of thing that should have been disclosed.



Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2018 03:41 PM
.
.
.Yep, like I said above, it's like they want a mistrial declared.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 26, 2018 03:43 PM (+Dllb)

72 The Tsarnaev's were also related to the US deep state (older Tsarnaev was married to daughter of CIA officer). So here we have two of the biggest terrorist attacks on US soil carried out by former assets of CIA. What are the odds of that? Got to be close to 1/millions.

Posted by: bjstuggzzz at March 26, 2018 03:43 PM (e44Qj)

73 Did the prosecutors know he was an fbi informant?

And I'll say again, I am pretty sure I heard long ago, maybe not that he was an informant, but that he had spoke to the "authorities" about his son. Whatever that means.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2018 03:43 PM (5y11N)

74
By the way, Piglet Hogg now wants to stop, get this, voter ID laws.

The more I see this little cocksucker, the more I despise him. And the more I wager he was the shooter's bully.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2018 03:44 PM (VM6ev)

75 Mateen himself was an employee/sub contractor for the Feds and his father is an FBI informant.
He can be seen behind sitting Hillary at a campaign event.

Posted by: navybrat at March 26, 2018 03:44 PM (w7KSn)

76 It really is MAD Mag's Spy vs Spy. Ergo, the Universe really is a computer generated game.

Posted by: Archer at March 26, 2018 03:44 PM (gbWkA)

77 Is Stormy Daniels still a Republican?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 03:44 PM (nBr1j)

78 I don't think the mistrial thing is here nor there, this is just an excuse for the defense to find some way to make more money get another trial.

But I am heartily sick of the US prosecutors pulling this crap over and over, its like they want to mess up trials and lose.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 03:44 PM (39g3+)

79 The defense doesn't have to meet the high bar of the prosecution.

They only need to demonstrate reasonable doubt.

The fact that the relationship was concealed is the reasonable doubt. It shows that the prosecution was protecting the father and that the prosecution may also be protecting the father by prosecuting the son when the father could also be guilty.

Easy peasy.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 26, 2018 03:44 PM (E5ZoU)

80 The FBI was good and fucked long before Obama. Bush 1 seems to be a good starting point.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 03:44 PM (ZghNV)

81 77 Is Stormy Daniels still a Republican?
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 03:44 PM (nBr1j)


Let me ask Mitch Daniels...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2018 03:44 PM (VM6ev)

82 No actually it's (1/20,000,000)*(1/20,000,000), something like that. Even bigger than that. It's astronomical.

Posted by: bjstuggzzz at March 26, 2018 03:45 PM (e44Qj)

83 https://tinyurl.com/yatp7sf5

Any chance monk is the Russian interior minister quoted at the end of this article?

So Russia wants to prove they weren't involved. Fine, give Interpol access to your novachok stocks and we'll put it through a gas chromatigraph with dual flame analyzers and see what pops up.

Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 03:45 PM (yE4gX)

84 77 Is Stormy Daniels still a Republican?
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 03:44 PM (nBr1j)

She's a capitalist for sure

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 26, 2018 03:45 PM (+087i)

85 Okay I understand in a legal sense why this should have been disclosed but I don't think it has a thing to do on whether the wife knew what was going on or not. The defense would have used it to muck up the waters. But yeah they should have disclosed it.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 26, 2018 03:45 PM (Z+ic4)

86 One thing the recent events have taught me, that when asked a question by a FBI agent to always respond, 'I do not recollect'. Fuck these guys with the barbed cock of Satan.

Posted by: Gumby at March 26, 2018 03:45 PM (2LelM)

87 The Tsarnaev's were also related to the US deep state (older Tsarnaev
was married to daughter of CIA officer). So here we have two of the
biggest terrorist attacks on US soil carried out by former assets of
CIA. What are the odds of that? Got to be close to 1/millions.
-----------------------------------------

The crazies are confined to the previous thread, I thought.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 26, 2018 03:45 PM (rBnYq)

88 It is truly disturbing to me that the FBI seems to have learned all the wrong lessons from the Whitey Bulger days. What's that? We got lots of prosecutions? OK we should do more of that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 03:45 PM (39g3+)

89
Discussing this can only undermine confidence in our law enforcement agencies.

Sincerely yours,
The Amalgamated Union of Concerned TruCons

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 26, 2018 03:45 PM (F8Mue)

90 77 Is Stormy Daniels still a Republican?
__________________________________

No, but her lab cultures are.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 26, 2018 03:46 PM (E5ZoU)

91 This countrys' biggest enemies are the CIA and FBI. They were compromised decades ago.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 26, 2018 03:46 PM (KP5rU)

92 Years ago, somebody got shot directly in front of the house that I was living in (botched robbery).

I demand to be referred to as a "survivor", and everyone should be compelled to listen to my views on gun control.

Posted by: The ARC of History at March 26, 2018 03:46 PM (Mrl1e)

93 heckuva job there Fibbie

Posted by: x at March 26, 2018 03:46 PM (nFwvY)

94 The Tsarnaev's were also related to the US deep state (older Tsarnaev was married to daughter of CIA officer).

Ah not, but not sure what you mean anyway? Not one of the bombers---An uncle of the Boston bombers was previously married to a CIA officers daughter for three years, it emerged today.

Ruslan Tsarni, who publicly denounced his two terrorist nephews actions and called them Losers, even lived with his father-in-law agent Graham Fuller in his Maryland home for a year.



Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2018 03:46 PM (5y11N)

95 4 We are talking about the same FBI that lost her for a few weeks, so anything is possible.
Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 26, 2018 03:33 PM (uiwCw)

----

Also the same FBI that left the Santa Barbara jihadi mass murderers' apartment unguarded and full of uncollected evidence so that reporters could flood inside and destroy the value of any remaining evidence.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 26, 2018 03:46 PM (3ihPq)

96 Someone needs to go J. Edgar on the FBI.
They were a corrupt joke before he took over. Whatever his flaws, and he had many, he made them a professional organization.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (xJa6I)


What were his flaws? The cross dressing bullshit was complete Rooski disinformation because he was so good at being anti commie. If it's illegal wire taps, that's legit criticism.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 26, 2018 03:46 PM (y7DUB)

97 Wasn't the FBI fully aware and actually present at the Garland, Texas shooting at the "draw mohamhead" rally there?

Posted by: Sponge at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (xttKs)

98 91 This countrys' biggest enemies are the CIA and FBI. They were compromised decades ago.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 26, 2018 03:46 PM (KP5rU)


"Let's start at the very beginning..."

- - Academia

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (VM6ev)

99 @votermom

Well isn't this a bit awkward. Right around the 4:30 mark,((David Hogg)) admits that he wasn't at the school the day of the shooting.

....


lol

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (ROV4u)

100 74
By the way, Piglet Hogg now wants to stop, get this, voter ID laws.
--------------------
Can someone send him a copy of Lord of the Flies?

Posted by: Gumby at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (2LelM)

101 I hear a leaf blower right outside my window. First of the spring! Of course, I still have snow on about a third of my yard, but not my neighbor I guess.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (rBnYq)

102 66
62



he admits it



link

https://twitter.com/e30ben/status/978347379215577088

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 26, 2018 03:42 PM (hMwEB)


That tweet goes to some guy saying go to Hogg's timeline and watch something at a 4:30 mark. There was nothing I saw in his timeline to view at a 4:30 time.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (Dp6qK)

103 Seems like a great way to avoid an investigation is by withholding information so a mistrial can be declared. No facts and evidence makes it into the public record.

Just another FBI fuck up.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (ZghNV)

104 I thought Our Betters and Our Overloards via both Bushes, Clintons, and Obama said we had to fight Saudi Arabia's enemies the last 17 years to keep them them from attacking us at home? And yet the Muslim Brotherhood has managed to infiltrate every institution including the FBI and every other 3 letter agency.
=============
Valerie Jarrett/ Huma Abedin.

You don't have to filtrate the agencies when you are running the White House and the State Department.

Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (7IdGX)

105 32
The FBI does appear to be completely fuckeled during the Obama years
like pretty much everything else they touched but doesn't most of the
blame here fall on the prosecutors not the FBI?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 26, 2018 03:37 PM (/tuJf)

Most of today's vested careerists came along during the glorious W. years.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (UBzPO)

106 REMOVE FBI
REMOVE CONGRESS
REMOVE...EVERYTHING DAMMIT AAARRRGGGHHH

/drops lit match into pile
/laughs maniacally

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (AM1GF)

107 Federal Bureau of Cockslurping Homosecksuals

Posted by: Gaius Julius Caesar at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (W4jkE)

108 What were his flaws? The cross dressing bullshit was complete Rooski disinformation because he was so good at being anti commie. If it's illegal wire taps, that's legit criticism.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 26, 2018 03:46 PM (y7DUB)

I think JFK wanted to get rid of him and he threatened JFK with compromising evidence that changed his mind. Sounds like using state surveillance for personal gain.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (+087i)

109 Odds that the jihadi got weapons or training from the FBI?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (eSx+E)

110 Sebastian @85 pretty much covers my reaction (based on limited info).


She's on trial for being an accessory, yes?


So presumably verdict rises/falls on evidence that she was, in fact, an accessory.


Don't see how husband's father's connections to anything including the FBI change the facts on which her fate should rest.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (v9gSJ)

111 Article I read said the fbi was trying to recruit Omar as well. Daddy quashed the reports about the 2 times Omar was questioned before the shooting.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (gIYZg)

112 Nowadays, it seem that the FBI is more likely to be involved in a shooting suspect's past than al Qaeda or ISIS.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (E5ZoU)

113
99 @votermom

Well isn't this a bit awkward. Right around the 4:30 mark,((David Hogg)) admits that he wasn't at the school the day of the shooting.
....

lol
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Methinks, someone did some investigative reporting or got a call from one of his teachers. What a twat.

Posted by: Gumby at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (2LelM)

114
So Russia wants to prove they weren't involved. Fine, give Interpol access to your novachok stocks and we'll put it through a gas chromatigraph with dual flame analyzers and see what pops up.

Posted by: simplemind


Know who else is a Slav supremacist? Better check his alibis.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (F8Mue)

115 I wonder if Omar knew his dad was a stoolie?

Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (MS0+a)

116 101 I hear a leaf blower right outside my window.

Stormy?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (nBr1j)

117 'Pigs get fat, Hoggs get slaughtered'

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (ROV4u)

118
What were his flaws? The cross dressing bullshit was complete Rooski disinformation because he was so good at being anti commie. If it's illegal wire taps, that's legit criticism.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 26, 2018 03:46 PM (y7DUB)


You mean besides thinking he was above the law?

Posted by: The Gulf Coast at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (lKyWE)

119 Hit power off on my machine and posting from my phone.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (kD732)

I just use tinfoil gloves. Seems to work.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 03:49 PM (UBzPO)

120 Most of today's vested careerists came along during the glorious W. years.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (UBzPO)

The war on terror brought a lot of guys in. Hard to fault W. It was just a numbers thing during a ramp up that skews data.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 26, 2018 03:49 PM (+087i)

121 Having any muslim as fbi informants is a super duper double edge sword.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2018 03:49 PM (5y11N)

122 109 Odds that the jihadi got weapons or training from the FBI?
Posted by: 18-1 at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (eSx+E)


Fast and Furious residue???

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2018 03:49 PM (VM6ev)

123 I can say absolutely the FBI acted improperly. Brady material doesn't have to be dispositive, only material enough to lead to possible defenses.

There is something wrong here, and it's likely the connection between Seddique and the Hillary Clinton campaign. This will result in a mistrial, and it will happen because the FBI wanted to protect Clinton, full stop.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 26, 2018 03:49 PM (v7AcZ)

124 114. Slav power blyat!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 26, 2018 03:49 PM (2n/m3)

125 I wonder if Omar knew his dad was a stoolie?
Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (MS0+a)\

Stoolie or double agent...I seem to remember some very not so kosher things about the father

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2018 03:50 PM (5y11N)

126 One thing the recent events have taught me, that when asked a question by a FBI agent to always respond, 'I do not recollect'.
=======
No do not even say that. Say nothing. call your lawyer. That is it. Period. Nothing. If they say you aren't under arrest, walk away. Don't even say goodbye.

Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 03:50 PM (yE4gX)

127 That tweet goes to some guy saying go to Hogg's
timeline and watch something at a 4:30 mark. There was nothing I saw in
his timeline to view at a 4:30 time.


Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (Dp6qK)


I saw a video in the tweet, excerpts from a CBS piece. In it, Hogg talks about when he heard of the shooting, grabbing his camera and riding his bike as fast as he could the three miles to the school to get interviews.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 26, 2018 03:50 PM (uiwCw)

128 votermom

Well isn't this a bit awkward. Right around the 4:30 mark,((David Hogg)) admits that he wasn't at the school the day of the shooting.

....


lol
Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (ROV4u)

Wait?! He literally put out a video of him filming during the morning drill and the shooting. He named Nik Cruz as the shooter.

I'm sure that video has been scrubbed by YouTube. Bitchute would be the best place to search.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 03:50 PM (ZghNV)

129 his father is an FBI informant.
---------------
Informants can only be trusted so far. They are in the evil they are informing on. They will attempt manipulate the circumstances to their advantage.

Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at March 26, 2018 03:50 PM (foYMy)

130 What were his flaws? The cross dressing bullshit was complete Rooski disinformation because he was so good at being anti commie. If it's illegal wire taps, that's legit criticism.

J. Edgar blackmailed everyone in Washington, using FBI files, to maintain his political power.

When JFK came into office, one of the first things he was going to do was fire J. Edgar. RFK was dispatched to the FBI to tell J. Edgar he was going to leave. I'm sure it was a **very** amusing conversation.

Posted by: The ARC of History at March 26, 2018 03:50 PM (Mrl1e)

131 Stormy at her peak was ok, but pulling in Karen McDougal is impressive. Not making a moral stance here, just saying.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 26, 2018 03:51 PM (+087i)

132 Why the hell would a devout Muslim male be campaigning for a filthy ankle-showing whore?

Makes no sense.

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 26, 2018 03:51 PM (ROV4u)

133 By the way, Piglet Hogg now wants to stop, get this, voter ID laws.

The more I see this little cocksucker, the more I despise him. And the more I wager he was the shooter's bully.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2018 03:44 PM (VM6ev)
.............

Fox News Sunday had some other dipshit just like him on with Delaney Tar the Marie Harf wannabe. It was unwatchable.

Posted by: wth at March 26, 2018 03:51 PM (HgMAr)

134 I'm not even very certain the Lab is worth saving JJ. As I recall, AtC developed a pretty comprehensive indictment of their performance at trial.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

No, the lab should have been shut down years ago. It served a purpose - before the States set up their own labs. With actual accreditation and standards.

Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2018 03:51 PM (MS0+a)

135 And they're not releasing any of the Vegas shooting video because the same cameras were used for Stormy pron.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 26, 2018 03:51 PM (ewxPW)

136 Oh, and how long has it been since the Vegas shooting that we still don't know Paddock's motive?

Posted by: joncelli, little spirals in his eyes at March 26, 2018 03:51 PM (RD7QR)

137 By the way, Piglet Hogg now wants to stop, get this, voter ID laws.
--------------------
Can someone send him a copy of Lord of the Flies?
Posted by: Gumby at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (2LelM)

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Wasnt he prattling on about not having armed SROs because they would be more likely to shoot black students a few weeks back??

Posted by: Bob From the NSA at March 26, 2018 03:52 PM (8XRCm)

138 Tear up Texas Florida!

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 26, 2018 03:52 PM (NWiLs)

139 Don't care. WAY past the point of caring whether jihadi's get fair trials or not. Just jail em or gitmo em. Move along.

Lock the bish up. If they want to lock up an FBI fall guy for this then lock up McCabe or Come.

Back to the important business of building the wall

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 26, 2018 03:52 PM (aqpW6)

140 But how was Putin involved?

Posted by: Grump928(C) his ears perk up at March 26, 2018 03:52 PM (QQ+il)

141 The fact that the relationship was concealed is the reasonable doubt. It shows that the prosecution was protecting the father and that the prosecution may also be protecting the father by prosecuting the son when the father could also be guilty.

Easy peasy."

I agree, and it's because when the Prosecution deliberately tries to hide evidence, that is an open show of Bad Faith by the Prosecution. And a lack of trust in the integrity of the Prosecution is cause for reasonable doubt as to guilt.

THAT is why the Prosecution has to be beyond reproach, and has to live up to the strictest standards of integrity. When it doesn't the entire rationale for our form of justice falls apart.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2018 03:52 PM (k1TUh)

142
ooooops intel sock

Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 03:52 PM (8XRCm)

143 I saw a video in the tweet, excerpts from a CBS piece. In it, Hogg talks about when he heard of the shooting, grabbing his camera and riding his bike as fast as he could the three miles to the school to get interviews.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 26, 2018 03:50 PM (uiwCw)


Wouldn't shock me. With the media covering for his ass and everyone calling him a "survivor" of the shooting. Even if he were on campus, he was no where near the events and likely didn't hear the shots.

Fuck that guy.

Posted by: Sponge at March 26, 2018 03:52 PM (xttKs)

144 I had completely forgotten about this horrible night. The name Mateen sounded vaguely familiar to me but because the shooter didn't fit the narrative, it goes down the memory hole.

I know we all understand why but it's so SICKENING the way our media behaves.

As soon as a white, straight, middle-class kid does the same fucking thing, suddenly a national dialog needs to be had which we all know translates into "death to those with differing opinions!" from the ever so tolerant and profoundly logical left.

Posted by: Dimebag forever at March 26, 2018 03:52 PM (pBbc6)

145 Here's the video: https://youtu.be/IUOkBv6wMhc


Go to 4:30.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 26, 2018 03:52 PM (uiwCw)

146 I think JFK wanted to get rid of him and he threatened JFK with compromising evidence that changed his mind. Sounds like using state surveillance for personal gain.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (+087i)


Saint JFK was a security nightmare for whom the MFM ran interference. Hoover was wrong to use it for personal benefit but having an easily blackmailable President wasn't in the nation's interests.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 26, 2018 03:53 PM (y7DUB)

147 The FBI does appear to be completely fuckeled during the Obama years
like pretty much everything else they touched but doesn't most of the
blame here fall on the prosecutors not the FBI?
Posted by: JackStraw
===========
Justice department is likewise a pit of vipers.

It also depends on whether or not the FBI shared with Justice what their relationship with the father was or not.

Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 03:53 PM (yE4gX)

148 I wonder if Omar knew his dad was a stoolie?
Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2018 03:48 PM (MS0+a)\

Stoolie or double agent...I seem to remember some very not so kosher things about the father
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Terrorist symp, double agent, AND consorted with Democrat politicians.

Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2018 03:53 PM (MS0+a)

149 102 go to 4:30 of the linked video

https://youtu.be/IUOkBv6wMhc

paraphrasing:

" on the day of the shooting, I grabbed my camera and biked 3 miles to the school as fast as I could to get as much video and interviews as possible...'

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 26, 2018 03:53 PM (hMwEB)

150 You know who else's dad worked for the FBI?


Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 26, 2018 03:53 PM (ROV4u)

151 126 One thing the recent events have taught me, that when asked a question by a FBI agent to always respond, 'I do not recollect'.
=======
No do not even say that. Say nothing. call your lawyer. That is it. Period. Nothing. If they say you aren't under arrest, walk away. Don't even say goodbye.
Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 03:50 PM (yE4gX)

As it should be with all law enforcement.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 26, 2018 03:53 PM (NWiLs)

152 There was an FBI informant among the first WTC bombers, too.

He knew about the bomb plot, but the FBI took him off the payroll.

Emad Salem

Posted by: Oschisms at March 26, 2018 03:53 PM (Y/y3J)

153 The war on terror brought a lot of guys in. Hard to fault W. It was just a numbers thing during a ramp up that skews data.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 26, 2018 03:49 PM (+087i)


W reacted to an attack by two dozen Middle Eastern terrorists by creating a new department as well as focusing existing assets toward the purpose of domestic surveillance of American Citizens.

You bet your ass I blame "W".

He responding to a Foreign attack by expanding a Domestic Police State. Fuck that guy in particular.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 26, 2018 03:54 PM (DMoow)

154 I saw a video in the tweet, excerpts from a CBS piece. In it, Hogg talks about when he heard of the shooting, grabbing his camera and riding his bike as fast as he could the three miles to the school to get interviews.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer



??? WTF? Why wasn't the shit in school that day?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 03:54 PM (LkzOc)

155 But how was Putin involved?

Wheels, bruh.
Wheels within wheels.

Posted by: Roland THTG at March 26, 2018 03:54 PM (xBSm0)

156 The swamp needs to be drained and public punishments need to be dished out just to restore faith in all our institutions at the very least.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 03:54 PM (ZghNV)

157 Right, the uncle of the Boston bomber was married to CIA officer Fuller's daughter. Same difference. Who tends to be the kind of people who become assets in places like Chechnya or Afghanistan? Crazy people. And we bring them here and they're still crazy, and then they turn into terrorists. Like I said, chances that Tsarvaev's and Mateens both have CIA connections is infinitesimal.

Posted by: bjstuggzzz at March 26, 2018 03:54 PM (e44Qj)

158 Bush 1 seems to be a good starting point.

It seems to have started earlier, I mean Bulger started out as an informant as far back as 1975. But things have gotten really, really bad there.

I still think the right move for Trump would have been to fire EVERYONE and then start over rehiring, reinterviewing etc like they do with a corporate takeover, in every department. Yeah it sucks for the workers and is incredibly disruptive to their work. But they're doing an awful job as is.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 03:54 PM (39g3+)

159 145. Ha! Unreal.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 26, 2018 03:54 PM (2n/m3)

160 The National Post comment thread renews my faith in Canadians.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 26, 2018 03:54 PM (rBnYq)

161 Having any muslim as fbi informants is a super duper double edge sword.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2018 03:49 PM (5y11N)

-----

All swords are double edged.

Otherwise theyd be a machete'.


Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 03:55 PM (8XRCm)

162 I saw a video in the tweet, excerpts from a CBS piece. In it, Hogg talks about when he heard of the shooting, grabbing his camera and riding his bike as fast as he could the three miles to the school to get interviews.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 26, 2018 03:50 PM (uiwCw)

Wouldn't shock me. With the media covering for his ass and everyone calling him a "survivor" of the shooting. Even if he were on campus, he was no where near the events and likely didn't hear the shots.

Fuck that guy.
Posted by: Sponge

Why does everyone know his name and not the JROTC kids who manned up.

Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2018 03:55 PM (MS0+a)

163 I saw a video in the tweet, excerpts from a CBS piece. In it, Hogg talks about when he heard of the shooting, grabbing his camera and riding his bike as fast as he could the three miles to the school to get interviews.

Yeah at this point its a question how much you can believe of anything he says. He is constantly blowing off classes now, says "meh" about it and claims his teachers are supportive. Might just be a pattern of someone so arrogant and self assured he thinks he just doesn't need to go to class.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 03:55 PM (39g3+)

164 In the legal profession, we call this a Mongolian clusterfuck.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 26, 2018 03:56 PM (NWiLs)

165 And you know what W didn't do?Gut the agencies that failed so miserably to prevent 9/11.

Posted by: steevy at March 26, 2018 03:56 PM (LiyEm)

166 160 The National Post comment thread renews my faith in Canadians.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 26, 2018 03:54 PM (rBnYq)

What comment thread?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 03:56 PM (nBr1j)

167 139 Don't care. WAY past the point of caring whether jihadi's get fair trials or not. Just jail em or gitmo em. Move along. "

Make sure and distinguish between a foreign Jihadi and a US citizen.

The reason this case, and the manner in which it is handled, is so important is because she is a US citizen, and anything that they can do to her, they can do to you. And they will.

As was said in the play, I would give the Devil himself Benefit of the Law, because I do that to protect my own self WITH the law.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2018 03:56 PM (k1TUh)

168
I saw a video in the tweet, excerpts from a CBS piece. In it, Hogg talks about when he heard of the shooting, grabbing his camera and riding his bike as fast as he could the three miles to the school to get interviews.
Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 26, 2018 03:50 PM (uiwCw)


Sounds like he really didn't have any emotional attachment to his claasmates until he saw opportunity in iy

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 26, 2018 03:56 PM (lKyWE)

169 If we blow it up, I wanna know where Hoffa is


If this were a real democracy some day we'd get a president who would read the book of secrets and tell us, "no, Roswell wasn't aliens but there were real aliens in Gnome. Also Hoffa is under the Pennsylvania Turnpike, not Giants Stadium."

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 26, 2018 03:56 PM (fuK7c)

170 Don't care. WAY past the point of caring whether jihadi's get fair trials or not. Just jail em or gitmo em

I think execution at the spot is the right approach if its absolutely certain who did it. Find a man raping a woman? Death on the spot. Find a man doing terrorism? Death on the spot. Find someone involved in a mass shooting? Death on the spot.

No trial, no time, just dead.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 03:56 PM (39g3+)

171 Bill Kristol and Jen Rubin will clear this up for us, no doubt.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 26, 2018 03:56 PM (rBnYq)

172 Challenge: How is this Trump's fault? How is the FBI knowing what terrorist nutballs this family was and allowing them to get guns a commentary on Trump?

Go.

Posted by: dagny at March 26, 2018 03:57 PM (CAKgV)

173 Sounds like the FBI has these penetrated as well as they had the Klan.

Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2018 03:57 PM (MS0+a)

174 Meet crisis actor David Hogg, Son of FBI agent Kevin Hogg

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 26, 2018 03:57 PM (ROV4u)

175 I saw a video in the tweet, excerpts from a CBS piece. In it, Hogg talks about when he heard of the shooting, grabbing his camera and riding his bike as fast as he could the three miles to the school to get interviews.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer



??? WTF? Why wasn't the shit in school that day?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 03:54 PM (LkzOc)

------

**tin foil hat on**

Because he graduated high school in California in 2015.

**tin foil hat off**

Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 03:57 PM (8XRCm)

176
All swords are double edged.

Otherwise theyd be a machete'.




Posted by: fixerupper

===========|
Where's DonQ to put this guy some information?

Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 03:57 PM (yFuPi)

177 Justice must not only be done, it must be seen to be done, and this looks unjust.

Posted by: Fred Z at March 26, 2018 03:58 PM (Ns/en)

178 I saw a video in the tweet, excerpts from a CBS piece. In it, Hogg talks about when he heard of the shooting, grabbing his camera and riding his bike as fast as he could the three miles to the school to get interviews.
Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 26, 2018 03:50 PM (uiwCw)


Sounds like he really didn't have any emotional attachment to his claasmates until he saw opportunity in iy
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic



How did he get inside of the building when even the cops didn't go in?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 03:58 PM (LkzOc)

179
If this were a real democracy some day we'd get a president who would read the book of secrets and tell us, "no, Roswell wasn't aliens but there were real aliens in Gnome. Also Hoffa is under the Pennsylvania Turnpike, not Giants Stadium."
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 26, 2018 03:56 PM (fuK7c)

And he's tell everybody what's going on in Area 51.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 03:58 PM (nBr1j)

180 Trump poisoned my cat @123, hmmm. Given everything else we know - and, probably, much of what we are soon to learn after the IG report is out - that explanation is technically rated:

[X] Not Batshit Crazy
[ ] Batshit Crazy


I vaguely recall the thing about the father being in a Hillary campaign photo from an event.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at March 26, 2018 03:58 PM (v9gSJ)

181 "147 The FBI does appear to be completely fuckeled during the Obama years
like pretty much everything else they touched but doesn't most of the
blame here fall on the prosecutors not the FBI?
Posted by: JackStraw
===========
Justice department is likewise a pit of vipers.

It also depends on whether or not the FBI shared with Justice what their relationship with the father was or not. "

This. But what are the odds, if the information wasn't shared, the US attorneys as much as complain to the agents' supervisors? Given who headed the DOJ, don't discount the information was shared and memoryholed.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 26, 2018 03:58 PM (v7AcZ)

182
Dow +669.40. Trump to blame.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 26, 2018 03:58 PM (F8Mue)

183 **tin foil hat on**

Because he graduated high school in California in 2015.

**tin foil hat off**
Posted by: fixerupper



You want to see that pic? I'll Photobucket it.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 03:58 PM (LkzOc)

184 161 Having any muslim as fbi informants is a super duper double edge sword.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2018 03:49 PM (5y11N)


-----


All swords are double edged.


Otherwise theyd be a machete'.





Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 03:55 PM (8XRCm)

Genius

Posted by: dagny at March 26, 2018 03:58 PM (CAKgV)

185 >>>>>Bush 1 seems to be a good starting point.



It seems to have started earlier, I mean Bulger started out as an
informant as far back as 1975. But things have gotten really, really
bad there.



I still think the right move for Trump would have been to fire
EVERYONE and then start over rehiring, reinterviewing etc like they do
with a corporate takeover, in every department. Yeah it sucks for the
workers and is incredibly disruptive to their work. But they're doing
an awful job as is.


Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 03:54 PM
.
.
.This political $hit started in the late 1940s right after WWII wound down.

Bill Donovan of the OSS and other political movers of the time started up the CIA and other Federal agencies and got a metric butt ton of new Agents into the FBI and started turning everything into politics.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 26, 2018 03:59 PM (+Dllb)

186 145 Here's the video: https://youtu.be/IUOkBv6wMhc


Go to 4:30.
Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 26, 2018 03:52 PM (uiwCw)

That slimy, opportunistic, self-serving, lying, fraudulent, weasel-fucking little faggot. It was bad enough before, and it turns out he wasn't even on campus at all? Fuck him to death with a flaming, barbed-wire-wrapped pineapple sideways.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 26, 2018 03:59 PM (NWiLs)

187 Yeah at this point its a question how much you can believe of anything he says. He is constantly blowing off classes now, says "meh" about it and claims his teachers are supportive. Might just be a pattern of someone so arrogant and self assured he thinks he just doesn't need to go to class.
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Because the autists say he already graduated HS in California. last year.

Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 03:59 PM (xvkG3)

188 127
That tweet goes to some guy saying go to Hogg's

timeline and watch something at a 4:30 mark. There was nothing I saw in

his timeline to view at a 4:30 time.




Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (Dp6qK)

I saw a video in the tweet, excerpts from a CBS piece. In it, Hogg talks about when he heard of the shooting, grabbing his camera and riding his bike as fast as he could the three miles to the school to get interviews.


Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 26, 2018 03:50 PM (uiwCw)


OK. This directly contradicts CNN reports that he was huddled in the building DURING the shooting. I'll have to seek out that video

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 03:59 PM (Dp6qK)

189 Challenge: How is this Trump's fault? How is the FBI knowing what terrorist nutballs this family was and allowing them to get guns a commentary on Trump?

Go.

Posted by: dagny

It's not Trump per se, its the movement he represents. Without Trump, the media would have buried this story and we wouldn't be troubled by it.

Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2018 03:59 PM (MS0+a)

190 100 Can someone send him a copy of Lord of the Flies?
Posted by: Gumby at March 26, 2018 03:47 PM (2LelM)

Are we sure he's not already Beelzebub?

Posted by: Hikaru at March 26, 2018 03:59 PM (CMbMd)

191 All swords are double edged.


Otherwise theyd be a machete'.



Huh?

Posted by: Katanas at March 26, 2018 04:00 PM (fuK7c)

192 41
17

Yep



Ace I'm getting a malicious "internet security alert" page from the site.



Hit power off on my machine and posting from my phone.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (kD732)
That's happened twice in the last week. I just close my browser, but then it asks if I'm sure I want to leave the page. Also ran a Malware Bytes scan and it turned up nothing. Not going to click anything on that page. Nope. Not going to do it.

Posted by: Paolo at March 26, 2018 04:00 PM (gEvQ8)

193 At this point, I'm beginning to believe that it may be plausible that he graduated in 2015 from that school in Cali or somewhere. Or maybe he is part of Broward's 21 Jump Street program?

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 04:00 PM (ZghNV)

194 OK. This directly contradicts CNN reports that he was huddled in the building DURING the shooting. I'll have to seek out that video
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 03:59 PM (Dp6qK)

How does Urban Dictionary define huddled?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 04:00 PM (nBr1j)

195 @flounderbot



145
Here's the video: https://youtu.be/IUOkBv6wMhc

Go to 4:30.


Posted by: Bert G

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 26, 2018 04:00 PM (ROV4u)

196 So the Barak FBI was a bunch of Muzzy simplifies

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2018 04:01 PM (aC6Sd)

197
Posted by: TexasDan at March 26, 2018 03:38 PM (kD732)
That's happened twice in the last week. I just close my browser, but then it asks if I'm sure I want to leave the page. Also ran a Malware Bytes scan and it turned up nothing. Not going to click anything on that page. Nope. Not going to do it.
Posted by: Paolo at March 26, 2018 04:00 PM (gEvQ

Does it claim to represent Microsoft or Apple? And does it have a number to call?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 04:01 PM (nBr1j)

198 161 Having any muslim as fbi informants is a super duper double edge sword.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2018 03:49 PM (5y11N)

-----

All swords are double edged.

Otherwise theyd be a machete'.


Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 03:55 PM (8XRCm)

Brow me.

Posted by: Katana at March 26, 2018 04:01 PM (NWiLs)

199 I saw a video in the tweet, excerpts from a CBS piece. In it, Hogg talks about when he heard of the shooting, grabbing his camera and riding his bike as fast as he could the three miles to the school to get interviews.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer

WTF was he doing at home, getting stoned?

Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2018 04:01 PM (MS0+a)

200 What comment thread?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 03:56 PM (nBr1j)
======================
Sorry- andycanuck posted it in the previous thread.
https://twitter.com/nationalpost/status/978273315176448000

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 26, 2018 04:01 PM (rBnYq)

201 Hey, let's not tell anyone until the actual trial and maybe NO ONE WILL NOTICE.

I feel safe right now. How about you guys?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 26, 2018 04:02 PM (B+qrE)

202 Hoover's "secret threats" didn't begin with the Kennedys. His anti-communist position was undermined during the Truman administration, and he used clandestine files to save himself then too.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 26, 2018 04:02 PM (H5rtT)

203 Priority seating at Hillary's rally.

Posted by: Mega at March 26, 2018 04:02 PM (0ith5)

204 ace is showing some spine and class in not doing the low-hanging fruit of Jen Rubin's final descent into idiocy. Too easy. Though the world is the worse for not having ace's unique snark applied to this sad, amazing situation.


Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at March 26, 2018 04:02 PM (v9gSJ)

205 172
Challenge: How is this Trump's fault? How is the FBI knowing what
terrorist nutballs this family was and allowing them to get guns a
commentary on Trump?

Go.



Posted by: dagny at March 26, 2018 03:57 PM (CAKgV)

They were to busy spying on political enemies ?

Posted by: muckrack at March 26, 2018 04:02 PM (RZ4iC)

206 @votermom

Well isn't this a bit awkward. Right around the 4:30 mark,((David Hogg)) admits that he wasn't at the school the day of the shooting.

That's how you know that he's being run by some organization. he waited until after the TV appearances and the farcical march to announce this.

This comes out only now, but it comes out before someone else does it.

Posted by: Reynolds wrap on sale now! $4.99 at March 26, 2018 04:02 PM (Fa3cJ)

207 **tin foil hat on**

Because he graduated high school in California in 2015.

**tin foil hat off**
Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 03:57 PM (8XRCm)


If he was enough of a brain to graduate at 14, colleges wouldn't be rejecting his ass (ESPECIALLY with his dad being ex-FBI) left and right.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 26, 2018 04:02 PM (CMbMd)

208 186
145 Here's the video: https://youtu.be/IUOkBv6wMhc





Go to 4:30.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 26, 2018 03:52 PM (uiwCw)



That slimy, opportunistic, self-serving, lying, fraudulent, weasel-fucking little faggot. It was bad enough before, and it turns out he wasn't even on campus at all? Fuck him to death with a flaming, barbed-wire-wrapped pineapple sideways.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 26, 2018 03:59 PM (NWiLs)



WTFF?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/17/us/ david-hogg-profile-florida-shooting/index.html

David Hogg found himself living a nightmare on Wednesday, hiding in a closet with classmates as a crazed gunman roamed the campus of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, unleashing a torrent of bullets on students and teachers.

Huddled in the dark, trying to keep quiet to avoid the gunman, students called their parents to tell them in hushed voices that they loved them.

"That's kind of around the same time that I just had to pull out my phone," Hogg, a 17-year-old student journalist, told CNN in a phone interview Friday.

"It was sheer terror," Hogg said of that moment, but he quickly recognized it as one that needed documenting -- if not for him to report, then for survivors and lawmakers to understand how desperately the country needs to implement reforms to prevent yet another mass shooting.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 04:02 PM (Dp6qK)

209 Looks like the Dow got a boner from Stromy

Posted by: FLAKE and CORY at March 26, 2018 04:02 PM (VWsDy)

210 Ace I'm getting a malicious "internet security alert" page from the site.

This is glitch. Do not have concern.

Posted by: Boris NKVD at March 26, 2018 04:02 PM (xBSm0)

211 greg Bird of the Yankees getting surgery again...guy just can't stay healthy...there are guys like that. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 26, 2018 04:03 PM (5y11N)

212 David Hogg is a survivor of nothing. The media drives the narrative. His mommy is a mover and shaker at CNN.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 26, 2018 04:03 PM (KP5rU)

213 I don't know the particulars of the court case. My comments are about the overall health of the FBI. The FBI is a corrupt organization and this goes back to the Clinton's and the 90's. The FBI crime lab falsified results and cases were thrown out. You've seen Mueller's ineptitude with the anthrax case of the Bush Years and now the FBI being a tool for the Obama regime to spy on Americans. The entire organization needs to be gutted and people need to be fired, some prosecuted.

Posted by: Locke Common at March 26, 2018 04:03 PM (AuwE4)

214 That slimy, opportunistic, self-serving, lying, fraudulent, weasel-fucking little faggot.
-----------------------

I am so stealing that very fine word string. It applies to so many situations.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 26, 2018 04:03 PM (rBnYq)

215 Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 03:55 PM (8XRCm)

Brow me.
Posted by: Katana at March 26, 2018 04:01 PM (NWiLs)

-----




OK. You're a REAL NICE machete'.

Or an oriental scimitar.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 04:04 PM (8XRCm)

216 194 OK. This directly contradicts CNN reports that he was huddled in the building DURING the shooting. I'll have to seek out that video
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 03:59 PM (Dp6qK)

How does Urban Dictionary define huddled?
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 04:00 PM (nBr1j)

I think that's like "docked", only with lingering glances.

Posted by: joncelli, little spirals in his eyes at March 26, 2018 04:04 PM (RD7QR)

217 I think execution at the spot is the right approach if its absolutely certain who did it. Find a man raping a woman? Death on the spot. Find a man doing terrorism? Death on the spot. Find someone involved in a mass shooting? Death on the spot.

No trial, no time, just dead."

I understand the appeal of that, perfect instant justice would be wonderful in theory. But who gets the license to kill? That's where it all falls apart, sadly. And who hands out the licenses to kill? That's where it gets even dirtier.

To go even farther down the rabbit hole - what if the man with a license to kill believes the woman who says she was raped, and doesn't realize that this was someone who believes that looking at her funny is the same thing as rape?

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2018 04:04 PM (k1TUh)

218 So today
Changed submersible water pump
Pressure gauge
Check valve
But still need to change fittings at top of well casing,


well top is only a close description its actually 4 feet down.


A bit of digging

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2018 04:04 PM (aC6Sd)

219 210 Ace I'm getting a malicious "internet security alert" page from the site.

This is glitch. Do not have concern.
Posted by: Boris NKVD at March 26, 2018 04:02 PM (xBSm0)

If there's a telephone number it leads to a nearby 7-11. Ask for Apu.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 04:04 PM (nBr1j)

220 I said at the time of the event that this was a Federal shooting.
I still have the scorch marks.

Posted by: navybrat

-----

Yeah, when the "Hey, you conspiracy theorists, get the hell out of here" crowd comes out, I do just that: I get out, and stay away from here for a few days.

Posted by: RKae at March 26, 2018 04:04 PM (ykKc8)

221 Whoa shit. Photobucket removes pics of Hogg.

Had to reload.

Supposed California yearbook picture.

http://bit.ly/2umtLDv

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:04 PM (LkzOc)

222 They didn't act wrongly, just stupidly. More stupidly than the guys who questioned that prof breaking into his own house.
Posted by: GregV61 at March 26, 2018 03:36 PM (FLpne)


You might be correct about the FBI, they sure haven't covering themselves with glory lately, but you are wrong about that incident that occurred during the first term of the Barky X administration.

Cambridge PD gets a call from a neighbor that saw someone breaking-in to the house. The professor (a professional race-baiter) wouldn't keep his pie-hole shut long enough for the police to verify that he lived there. Dip$h!t got arrested for Disorderly Conduct which should have been the end of it but Obama couldn't resist the temptation to insert himself into story.

The irony of the "Beer Summit" was that Obama couldn't be bothered to assist his supposed mentor to negotiate some stairs. It was left to the police officer to help the guy!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 26, 2018 04:04 PM (5Yee7)

223 autists say CNN is a CIA front.

that would mean Anderson Pooper is a very limp wristed James Bond.

Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 04:05 PM (2731X)

224 Shocked face:

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2018 04:05 PM (ptqGC)

225 ??? WTF? Why wasn't the shit in school that day?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 03:54 PM (LkzOc)

He was taking a day off from bullying...But really, can you imagine this little gay boy being a bully? With what? Hitting kids with cheese doodles?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:05 PM (o7tuA)

226 Run Superantispyware free version. Then run CCleaner, free version. Make sure your malwarebytes is the latest edition

Posted by: dagny at March 26, 2018 04:05 PM (CAKgV)

227 Sabre. Cutlass.


Posted by: irright at March 26, 2018 04:06 PM (pMGkg)

228 Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 26, 2018 03:59 PM (NWiLs)



WTFF?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/17/us/ david-hogg-profile-florida-shooting/index.html

David Hogg found himself living a nightmare on Wednesday, hiding in a closet with classmates as a crazed gunman roamed the campus of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, unleashing a torrent of bullets on students and teachers.

Huddled in the dark, trying to keep quiet to avoid the gunman, students called their parents to tell them in hushed voices that they loved them.

"That's kind of around the same time that I just had to pull out my phone," Hogg, a 17-year-old student journalist, told CNN in a phone interview Friday.

"It was sheer terror," Hogg said of that moment, but he quickly recognized it as one that needed documenting -- if not for him to report, then for survivors and lawmakers to understand how desperately the country needs to implement reforms to prevent yet another mass shooting.
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 04:02 PM (Dp6qK)

There is a video that he made to confirm this. The only problem is that the time stamp changes throughout from 932am to 230-3pm.

One taken during the morning drill and one during the shooting. I posted it weeks ago before the YouTube purge.

I'll look again.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 04:06 PM (ZghNV)

229 Find a man raping a woman? Death on the spot. Find a man doing terrorism? Death on the spot. Find someone involved in a mass shooting? Death on the spot.

No trial, no time, just dead."

I understand the appeal of that, perfect instant justice would be wonderful in theory. But who gets the license to kill?



Generally, caught in the act = self defense/defense of a third party.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:06 PM (LkzOc)

230 He was taking a day off from bullying...But really, can you imagine this little gay boy being a bully? With what? Hitting kids with cheese doodles?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:05 PM (o7tuA)

I fully expect him to be a mean-spirited verbal bully.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 04:06 PM (nBr1j)

231 Hogg is just Fluke with smaller balls. Forget him, he's a fart in the wind, even less

Posted by: REDACTED at March 26, 2018 04:06 PM (VWsDy)

232
autists say CNN is a CIA front.



that would mean Anderson Pooper is a very limp wristed James Bond.




Can anyone here see Chris Cuomo as a CIA operative? Lol.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2018 04:06 PM (ptqGC)

233
All swords are double edged.

Otherwise theyd be a machete'.


Machete is such an ugly word

Posted by: Navy Cutlass at March 26, 2018 04:06 PM (lKyWE)

234 Wait, so the FBI knew that the family was involved with terrorism.... and let the wife go right after the shooting?! Is there some policy that you can't have an IQ above 80 to work there?

Posted by: pookysgirl is a child of the 90s at March 26, 2018 04:06 PM (XKZwp)

235 "Supposed California yearbook picture."

Is actually his Parkland yearbook picture.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 04:07 PM (UBzPO)

236 Once you being to accept that at least some, if not a majority of these types of "events" are actually orchestrated by our government to push public opinion on guns to the point where confiscation is acceptable, it will all finally begin to make sense...

Posted by: I smell something rotten at March 26, 2018 04:07 PM (iWzUm)

237 If this were a real democracy some day we'd get a president who would read the book of secrets and tell us, "no, Roswell wasn't aliens but there were real aliens in Gnome. Also Hoffa is under the Pennsylvania Turnpike, not Giants Stadium."

His last day in office, Trump should do that. Just blow up all the stupid secrets. Everything that isn't a critical national security thing. Don't hold anything back, just puke it all on the press and release all the papers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:07 PM (39g3+)

238 Do you know when the USA started with power struggles , internal covert operations and Deep State shit?

1783

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 26, 2018 04:07 PM (Z+ic4)

239 189 Challenge: How is this Trump's fault? How is the FBI knowing what terrorist nutballs this family was and allowing them to get guns a commentary on Trump?

Go.

Posted by: dagny

It's not Trump per se, its the movement he represents. Without Trump, the media would have buried this story and we wouldn't be troubled by it.
Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2018 03:59 PM (MS0+a)


So by going after Drumpf they're willing to point out what inept piles of shit the FBI was under Cock Curious and Reverend Jimmy?

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 26, 2018 04:07 PM (y7DUB)

240 OT: The WaPo has a new definition of bullying:

PostEverything
@PostEverything
"Has this happened to you? If so, you've been gunsplained: harangued w/the pedantry of the more-credible-than-thou firearms owner, admonished that your inferior knowledge of guns and their nomenclature puts an asterisk next to your opinion on gun control."

-
Yeah, showing that you know more than the self-anointed morally and intellectually eljte is bullying and in no way diminishes the superiority of their strength through ignorance.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2018 04:07 PM (5Mk4N)

241 All swords are double edged.

Otherwise theyd be a machete'.


Could be a Katana, or a Saber, or a Falchion, or a Scimitar...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:08 PM (39g3+)

242 237 Why did they make Steven Gutenberg a star?

Posted by: steevy at March 26, 2018 04:08 PM (LiyEm)

243 I've seen a gay bully, they hook up with the mean girls (faghags) and go after normals they don't think are "woke" enough. Then they get mani/pedis.

Posted by: dagny at March 26, 2018 04:08 PM (CAKgV)

244 Florida is full of fucktocrats and non native reptiles. Hogg is both.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 26, 2018 04:08 PM (KP5rU)

245 Earlier today I said I'd bet my left kidney young Boss Hogg and Shaved Head Gurl bullied the JROTC kids.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2018 04:09 PM (ptqGC)

246 Is there some policy that you can't have an IQ above 80 to work there?


Right now Andy McCabe is saying "see, it's not just me!"

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 26, 2018 04:09 PM (rBnYq)

247 Can anyone here see Chris Cuomo as a CIA operative? Lol.

=========
I know. But to be fair, you can't really see Chris Cuomo as a legitimate News person either, right?

Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 04:09 PM (NEznh)

248 >>>That tweet goes to some guy saying go to Hogg's timeline and watch
something at a 4:30 mark. There was nothing I saw in his timeline to
view at a 4:30 time.


It's right there in the tweet, if no one's already said that.... he says when he heard about the shooting, he got his camera and got on his bike and pedaled his faggot ass 3 miles to the school to "get interviews..."??? What a flaming cock-holster.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at March 26, 2018 04:09 PM (jjaLl)

249 242 237 Why did they make Steven Gutenberg a star?
Posted by: steevy at March 26, 2018 04:08 PM (LiyEm)

They hate us?

Posted by: joncelli, little spirals in his eyes at March 26, 2018 04:09 PM (RD7QR)

250 Generally, caught in the act = self defense/defense of a third party."

That's already allowed under current law in many, if not most places (Texas for sure). I took it as meaning something more.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2018 04:09 PM (k1TUh)

251 The WaPo has a new definition of bullying

They ran an opinion piece all about how we need to "fix" democracy by having it run throgh an "impartial" board of commissars experts.

Democracy dies in da--aahhhh f**k it"
--Washington Post

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:09 PM (39g3+)

252 Found the shady live David Hogg school shooting video with multiple time stamps.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZVioBDjFeM

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 04:09 PM (ZghNV)

253 " Fire them all. Start over. Previous federal LEO experience is a disqualifying factor.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl "


Yeah, all of the above. Malignant incompetence.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at March 26, 2018 04:10 PM (4Eza9)

254 Da Hogg's mom: Rebecca Boldrick

(what ? No hyphen?? She needs her feminist leftard card revoked.)


- Obamabot, Hillarhoid and Union-thug Schoolteacher

https://wp.me/p4ga9s-6YxF

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 26, 2018 04:10 PM (ROV4u)

255 So no one believes that California yearbook hoax: https://twitter.com/_Joey_Wong/status/966169440487460865

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 04:10 PM (UBzPO)

256 I know. But to be fair, you can't really see Chris Cuomo as a legitimate News person either, right?





Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 04:09 PM (NEznh)


I could see him working as a towel boy at a NYC gym.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2018 04:10 PM (ptqGC)

257 PostEverything

@PostEverything

"Has this happened to you? If so, you've been gunsplained: harangued
w/the pedantry of the more-credible-than-thou firearms owner,
admonished that your inferior knowledge of guns and their nomenclature
puts an asterisk next to your opinion on gun control."
=============================

Is this wrong?

Posted by: Climate Amalrmist Cultists all over America at March 26, 2018 04:10 PM (rBnYq)

258 autists say CNN is a CIA front.



that would mean Anderson Pooper is a very limp wristed James Bond Bondage. "Oh, massa, please don't tie me up, tie me down, and bend me over the news desk!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2018 04:11 PM (5Mk4N)

259 "Is there some policy that you can't have an IQ above 80 to work there?"

If you do have an IQ of 80 in that department, you are unofficially known as "The Intellectual".

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2018 04:11 PM (k1TUh)

260 Could it be a simple as leaky exhausts in Crown Victoria's?

Posted by: DaveA at March 26, 2018 04:11 PM (FhXTo)

261 His last day in office, Trump should do that. Just blow up all the stupid secrets. Everything that isn't a critical national security thing. Don't hold anything back, just puke it all on the press and release all the papers.
============
That's final move to protect his family, to agree to sit on all that . . . as long as they leave his family Alone.

Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 04:11 PM (LO4z/)

262 If this were a real democracy some day we'd get a president who would read the book of secrets and tell us, "no, Roswell wasn't aliens but there were real aliens in Gnome. Also Hoffa is under the Pennsylvania Turnpike, not Giants Stadium."


The CIA poisoned Mama Cass!

Posted by: Grump928(C) his ears perk up at March 26, 2018 04:11 PM (QQ+il)

263 Kennedy will retire this spring. If he wants to be replaced by a moderate, this is his play. Next year, the Senate will be more red and a lot more conservative without Flake, Corker, etal. If I had Trump's ear, I would tell him to roll the dice and nominate a fire breather. Make it a campaign issue. It was one of the main reasons that Trump was elected.

Posted by: REDACTED at March 26, 2018 04:12 PM (VWsDy)

264
"Is there some policy that you can't have an IQ above 80 to work there?"



If you do have an IQ of 80 in that department, you are unofficially known as "The Intellectual".
--

LOL.

I was thinking the requirement was more like an IQ of 60.

Posted by: shibumi at March 26, 2018 04:12 PM (9oJYp)

265 Davis Hogg: the Sandra flucke of 2018. He will quickly realize his usefulness to the left has been exhausted, and will be left with a "Hey, remember me?" run for state legislature is a couple years.

Has anybody looked into the background of his parents? One of them has to have ties to the DNC or DWS.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2018 04:13 PM (wdmm9)

266 I know. But to be fair, you can't really see Chris Cuomo as a legitimate News person either, right?





Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 04:09 PM (NEznh)

I could see him working as a towel boy at a NYC gym.



Posted by: Jane D'oh
===========

Ha ha

for him, that would be considered skilled labor.

Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 04:13 PM (LO4z/)

267 I'm just waiting for Hogg to announce he's recording a Hip Hop album. The first song will be a Hillary duet entitled "My Run Through Machine Gun Fire"

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 26, 2018 04:13 PM (rBnYq)

268 People act like I'd do anything for money! - Stormy Daniels

Yeah, about that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 26, 2018 04:13 PM (YqDXo)

269 To go even farther down the rabbit hole - what if the man with a license to kill believes the woman who says she was raped, and doesn't realize that this was someone who believes that looking at her funny is the same thing as rape?

That;s why it has to be caught in the act, not accused. Actually doing the deed. Pull him off the girl and one in the brain.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:13 PM (39g3+)

270 I fully expect him to be a mean-spirited verbal bully.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 26, 2018 04:06 PM (nBr1j)

Ok, I know I'm an old guy and grew up in NY in another time and culture. But kids who 'verbally bullied' eventually got cornered alone and got a fat lip. And whats verbally bullying actually? There were mean kids, and cliques when I was in school. Are kids so fragile these days?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:13 PM (o7tuA)

271 The firings at the FBI can't come to soon. Why in the fuck didn't the FBI stop yet another shooting that the should have known about? Having a CI and not knowing about the CIs family or having suspensions about it are less than optimal. If a CI is a known splodeydope might his offspring be splodey too? Kill or seriously reform the FBI now...

Posted by: USNtakim Come and take them! Asshole. at March 26, 2018 04:13 PM (0OmEj)

272 254 Da Hogg's mom: Rebecca Boldrick



old school. she kept her father's name.

Posted by: x at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (nFwvY)

273
Has anybody looked into the background of his parents?


See 254.

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (ROV4u)

274 There is a video that he made to confirm this. The only problem is that the time stamp changes throughout from 932am to 230-3pm.



One taken during the morning drill and one during the shooting. I posted it weeks ago before the YouTube purge.



I'll look again.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 04:06 PM (ZghNV)


So was he at school during the shooting or not.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (Dp6qK)

275 Is actually his Parkland yearbook picture.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans



And his Parkland graduation pictures?

http://bit.ly/2IWCQGi

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (LkzOc)

276 265
Davis Hogg: the Sandra flucke of 2018. He will quickly realize his
usefulness to the left has been exhausted, and will be left with a "Hey,
remember me?" run for state legislature is a couple years.



Has anybody looked into the background of his parents? One of them has to have ties to the DNC or DWS.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2018 04:13 PM (wdmm9)

Father was a FBI agent.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (jxbfJ)

277 Regardless if the Fuckedup Bureau Of Impotence messed up. She still knew and did NOTHING! Yet again, they (the FBI) are going to get the guilty off possibly. She should be hooked up to Ol' sparky until her hijab is a smoldering ember.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (7qnb5)

278 Im going with David Hogg is 21 Jump Street. Dude is not even pretending to be a student anymore.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (ZghNV)

279
People act like I'd do anything for money! - Stormy Daniels

Except work for it

Posted by: Navy Cutlass at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (lKyWE)

280 Dennis Prager was all over that snotty brat Hogg today

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (aC6Sd)

281 autists say CNN is a CIA front.

Other way around

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (39g3+)

282 That Hogg kid is like 30. I assume the reason he is rarely in class is because he graduated a decade ago.

Posted by: mugiwara at March 26, 2018 04:15 PM (PAzht)

283 All swords are double edged.Otherwise theyd be a machete'.



Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 03:55 PM

-----

Brow me.
Posted by: Katana at March 26, 2018 04:01 PM


Likewise.

Posted by: Backsword, Sabre, Scimitar, Dao, Kopis, Falx, Falcata, & Falchion at March 26, 2018 04:15 PM (ctuyM)

284
Off single edged sword sock

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 26, 2018 04:15 PM (lKyWE)

285 Hi, Boris! Are we still on for darts on Wednesday?

Posted by: tom at the nsa filling in for bob at March 26, 2018 04:15 PM (ewxPW)

286
Rebecca has been outspoken online ever since President Donald Trump
won the election. About a year ago on Facebook she wrote: "I can't be
silent any more. I tried to be respectful during the elections. I can't
sit by and do nothing with what is going on currently in the USA. It's
horrifying. If you like what Trump is currently doing please unfriendly
or block me because you won't like what I am going to begin posting."

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 26, 2018 04:16 PM (ROV4u)

287 I'm terribly confused.
How come everyone is talking about jihadis here?

I thought the Orlando shooting was all about "Republican hate" and homophobia.
You know. The poor guy was all conflicted about his repressed homosexuality because of white, Christian hatey-haters. Drove him to it.
Or maybe he himself was a white, Christian Hatey-McHateface.
The Party Line was a little fuzzy about that.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 26, 2018 04:16 PM (0jtPF)

288 241 All swords are double edged.

Huh, mine aint got no edges. It is missing part of it's sheath.

Posted by: REDACTED at March 26, 2018 04:16 PM (VWsDy)

289 282 Still not old enough to run as Hillary's VP in 2020....

Posted by: steevy at March 26, 2018 04:16 PM (LiyEm)

290 So was he at school during the shooting or not.
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (Dp6qK)

Yes. Either way he's a lying little shitweasel.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 26, 2018 04:16 PM (NWiLs)

291 So was he at school during the shooting or not.
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (Dp6qK)

He claims to have been. I found the video. You decide. I don't know what to make of this video to be honest especially with the time stamps changing. It's bizarre.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZVioBDjFeM

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 04:16 PM (ZghNV)

292 Ok, I know I'm an old guy and grew up in NY in
another time and culture. But kids who 'verbally bullied' eventually got
cornered alone and got a fat lip. And whats verbally bullying actually?
There were mean kids, and cliques when I was in school. Are kids so
fragile these days?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:13 PM (o7tuA)

No, what's changed is Zero Tolerance policies for any school violence after Columbine. Now when the kid who's been bullied has finally had enough he goes for the gun since the consequences seem the same.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 04:17 PM (UBzPO)

293 Former CNN reporter Jessica Yellin has written a novel about harassment in the news room and her hero fights to report actual news "in a ratings obsessed environment." The novel is "Savage News."

Link to article at Newsbusters:

https://tinyurl.com/y9gmjdsc

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2018 04:17 PM (ptqGC)

294 All swords are double edged.

Otherwise theyd be a machete'.


Machete is such an ugly word




Army Saber

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 26, 2018 04:17 PM (jsWA8)

295 So Hogg wasn't even at the school when the shooting happened? Amazing.

I'd like to more about why and who this kid really is---

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 26, 2018 04:17 PM (U+nHb)

296 Speaking of LEO screwups, I have a new theory about the lack of information on the Vegas shooter: The coroner messed up and had his body cremated before they did bloodwork. Biggest mass shooting in US history means chaos, and the shooter's body could get lost in that. It would also explain why they refuse to release the autopsy bloodwork because heaven forbid the the government acknowledge its mistakes.

Posted by: pookysgirl at March 26, 2018 04:17 PM (XKZwp)

297 David Hogg wears John Ossoff pajamas.

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 26, 2018 04:17 PM (ROV4u)

298 It's not hard to believe that he would say "Yeah, I've been in the shit, maaan" only to find out later it was a lie.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 26, 2018 04:18 PM (NWiLs)

299 I survived the Parkland school shooting and I think gun control is an abome.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2018 04:18 PM (5Mk4N)

300 >>>>>Once you being to accept that at least some, if not a
majority of these types of "events" are actually orchestrated by our
government to push public opinion on guns to the point where
confiscation is acceptable, it will all finally begin to make sense...



Posted by: I smell something rotten at March 26, 2018 04:07 PM
.
.
.No really....go on......

Posted by: Fast and Furious at March 26, 2018 04:18 PM (+Dllb)

301 I am guessing there are witnesses to him just bking up to the school AFTER the shooting started, only reason he'd admit it to CBS.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 26, 2018 04:18 PM (hMwEB)

302 And his Parkland graduation pictures?



http://bit.ly/2IWCQGi
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (LkzOc)

What is that supposed to be a picture of?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 04:19 PM (UBzPO)

303 And his Parkland graduation pictures?

http://bit.ly/2IWCQGi
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:14 PM (LkzOc)

This is the shady part. The yearbook has been debunked I thought by a video. I don't know. Commies and nepotism go hand and hand.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 04:19 PM (ZghNV)

304 289...but in 2024...Hillary/Hogg!!!

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 26, 2018 04:19 PM (wGbBR)

305 David Hogg wears John Ossoff pajamas.

"That's a lie!!!

I wear Captain Planet Onesies."
--Hogg Boy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:19 PM (39g3+)

306 Knowing the family as I do, I can assure you that none of the Mateens had any criminal intent here.

Posted by: James Comey, Son Of God at March 26, 2018 04:19 PM (WYhTe)

307 A good ass beating, at home or by your peers, would solve a number of issues these days.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 26, 2018 04:20 PM (wGbBR)

308 307 A good ass beating, at home or by your peers, would solve a number of issues these days.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 26, 2018 04:20 PM (wGbBR)

Broken bones are the lessons that never stop teaching.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 26, 2018 04:21 PM (CMbMd)

309 CNN uses CIA font.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 04:21 PM (ZghNV)

310 Hogg looks like a rolling candidate for the back of Ken's Kitchen.

Posted by: REDACTED at March 26, 2018 04:21 PM (VWsDy)

311 Going to implement the 24 hour rule on the "was hogg at the school or not during the shooting".

But something is not adding up.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 26, 2018 04:21 PM (+Dllb)

312 Everyone here survived the Parkland shooting.We are all heroes.

Posted by: steevy at March 26, 2018 04:22 PM (LiyEm)

313 And I'm not sure why the prosecution would necessarily have to disclose this.

Yeah, I don't see how this has anything to do with her defense. It's not exculpatory, in any way.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2018 04:22 PM (8gDQu)

314 This is the shady part. The yearbook has been
debunked I thought by a video. I don't know. Commies and nepotism go
hand and hand.
Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 04:19 PM (ZghNV)

It was. factcheck.org has a page about it with plenty of links.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 04:22 PM (UBzPO)

315 What is that supposed to be a picture of?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans



Hogg & friend at graduation.

Since he's a Parkland student and not a California graduate...

You tell me.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:22 PM (LkzOc)

316 That;s why it has to be caught in the act, not accused. Actually doing the deed. Pull him off the girl and one in the brain."

It's a fun wish fulfillment fantasy, but rapists know how to lock doors and do their deeds in very secluded places. (especially Child rapists) Probably not one in a thousand rapes involves someone being caught in the act.

And if you DID catch someone in the act, in most places you would have a very good chance of getting off if you shot the rapist, even under current law. There was a case in Texas a few years back, where a man saw a women being murdered by her ex in a mall entrance. He ran back to his car to get his .44 magnum, as the perp drove by he put 3 shots through the car door - guy died a couple miles away. Locals tried to bring charges, but the grand jury refused to indict.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2018 04:22 PM (k1TUh)

317 A good ass beating, at home or by your peers, would solve a number of issues these days.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 26, 2018 04:20 PM (wGbBR)

--------

More than once in my day the teachers let the kids have it out, especially if one of the dickhead bullies was getting his clock deservedly cleaned.


I truly believe that a lot of the boorish behavior we see today is becasuse we as a society have removed removed the possibility of eating a knuckle sammich for being a dick.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 04:22 PM (8XRCm)

318 This is now Trump's FBI and Trump's DOJ which serves to prove to me that the problems here are structural, not as a result of who is the President.

Don't get me wrong, Holder and Comey and the rest of the ratlings didn't help matters, but the issues with what gate key, oh you mean this gate key, long precede their tenure.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 26, 2018 04:22 PM (mf5HN)

319 The CIA poisoned Mama Cass!

-
There was Russian dressing on that ham sandwich!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2018 04:22 PM (5Mk4N)

320 CNN delivered some fake news, then, since they claimed Hogg was in the closet. I mean, hiding in a closet at the school.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2018 04:23 PM (od8KW)

321 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 26, 2018 04:21 PM (+Dllb)

------

In the video linked, Hogg HIMSELF is saying he got on his bike and went to the school when he heard about the lockdown/shooter.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 26, 2018 04:23 PM (U+nHb)

322 Hogg might show up like Jack Nicholson in The Shining in old high school yearbooks

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2018 04:23 PM (aC6Sd)

323 I identify as being at the school, and that's all that matters, H8rs!

Posted by: D. 'Cam Rah' Hogg at March 26, 2018 04:23 PM (ctuyM)

324 No, what's changed is Zero Tolerance policies for
any school violence after Columbine. Now when the kid who's been bullied
has finally had enough he goes for the gun since the consequences seem
the same.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 04:17 PM (UBzPO)

What? verbal bullying is so bad, and you can't hit back (because zero tolerance) so you get so frustrated that you shoot somebody? Not getting the logic. Here in Phoenix where I taught you couldn't get anyone suspended. Just ISS (in school suspension)...too much money at stake,

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:23 PM (o7tuA)

325 I've been saying for a couple weeks. There is something very wrong with this whole Hogg story.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 26, 2018 04:24 PM (jsWA8)

326 308 307 A good ass beating, at home or by your peers, would solve a number of issues these days.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 26, 2018 04:20 PM (wGbBR)

I remember when my Dad, 11 years in the Corp. came into my room with a belt and said " you're too big to whip"

Next thing I knew I was sliding across my bed, bloody nose.

I got woke.

Posted by: REDACTED at March 26, 2018 04:24 PM (VWsDy)

327 Posted by: James Comey, Son Of God at March 26, 2018 04:19 PM (WYhTe)
=======================

Isn't it interesting that Comey's twitter account has been totally silent for the last nine days, after going non-stop for months. In fact it appears he stopped tweeting the day after McCabe was fired.

His lawyer finally got the message through?


Posted by: Huck Follywood, Waiting quietly for Daryl at March 26, 2018 04:24 PM (rBnYq)

328 I won some, and got whooped once after school. It changed me for the better. So did the wins.

It usually hurts either way.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 26, 2018 04:24 PM (wGbBR)

329 242
237 Why did they make Steven Gutenberg a star?
--------------------
He's has a new project coming up.
FBI academy.

Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at March 26, 2018 04:24 PM (foYMy)

330 Yeah, I don't see how this has anything to do with her defense. It's not exculpatory, in any way."

as was said upthread, it leads to the possibility that the Prosecution was intentionally shielding a co-conspirator and trying to pin all of the blame on her, which is a source of reasonable doubt.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2018 04:25 PM (k1TUh)

331 I've been saying for a couple weeks. There is something very wrong with this whole Hogg story.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 26, 2018 04:24 PM (jsWA


You're saying it's Hoggwash?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2018 04:25 PM (ptqGC)

332 >>They [WashPost] ran an opinion piece all about how we need to "fix" democracy by having it run through an "impartial" board of commissars experts.



"Hiya!"
-- European Union

Posted by: Lizzy at March 26, 2018 04:25 PM (W+vEI)

333 There was a case in Texas a few years back, where a man saw a women being murdered by her ex in a mall entrance. He ran back to his car to get his .44 magnum, as the perp drove by he put 3 shots through the car door - guy died a couple miles away. Locals tried to bring charges, but the grand jury refused to indict.

Posted by: Tom Servo



Pre-CHL days. That's why he had to run back to his car. Happened at Irving mall and he was going in to Oshman's to get ammo to go to the range.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:25 PM (LkzOc)

334 182
Dow +669.40. Trump to blame.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 26, 2018 03:58 PM (F8Mue)


No, no, no. Obama gets the credit when the market is up.

Posted by: rickl at March 26, 2018 04:25 PM (xjiRE)

335 I thought the parkland school was in the freshmen building. Most of these activist kiddies are seniors and were not even in the same building as the shootings.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2018 04:25 PM (wdmm9)

336 326 308 307 A good ass beating, at home or by your peers, would solve a number of issues these days.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 26, 2018 04:20 PM (wGbBR)

I remember when my Dad, 11 years in the Corp. came into my room with a belt and said " you're too big to whip"

Next thing I knew I was sliding across my bed, bloody nose.

I got woke.
Posted by: REDACTED at March 26, 2018 04:24 PM (VWsDy)

Uh, that's pretty much child abuse.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 26, 2018 04:25 PM (NWiLs)

337 243 I've seen a gay bully, they hook up with the mean girls (faghags) and go after normals they don't think are "woke" enough. Then they get mani/pedis.
Posted by: dagny at March 26, 2018 04:08 PM (CAKgV)



Isn't that the basis of the new series Heathers?

Posted by: buzzion at March 26, 2018 04:26 PM (lKs2v)

338 Ace, you are so deluded!!

Putin WANTED Trump to expel 60 diplomats!!!

It's PROOF!! PROOF I tell you!!!

Posted by: Axebot at March 26, 2018 04:26 PM (vDqXW)

339 LOl, yeah, pretty much.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 26, 2018 04:26 PM (jsWA8)

340 Next thing I knew I was sliding across my bed, bloody nose.

I got woke.


Posted by: REDACTED at March 26, 2018 04:24 PM (VWsDy)--------------Ok, what did you do?

Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at March 26, 2018 04:26 PM (foYMy)

341 I'm not sure if I can say the FBI acted wrongly here, but, as usual with the FBI, it's at least all a mess.

Really? These retards were already involved in multiple ways and still did nothing to stop this. Absolutely I think we should get a head on a stick for this screw-up.

Posted by: Alskari at March 26, 2018 04:26 PM (tdVTp)

342 Are there any terrorists that the FBI does not have close contacts with? It's getting pretty crazy, whenever there is a mass casualty attack either the FBI or the CIA is in thick with them. One of the 9/11 terrorists roommates was an FBI informant for example.

Whose side are these guys on?

Is the anti-Trump deep state stuff partially motivated by the desire to hide the government's involvement in terrorism?

Posted by: Jihadi at March 26, 2018 04:26 PM (f3C8a)

343 They [WashPost] ran an opinion piece all about how we need to "fix" democracy by having it run through an "impartial" board of commissars experts.

The Founders fixed Democracy by subjecting it to the limits imposed by an impartial Constitution.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2018 04:26 PM (8gDQu)

344 So Hogg is a liar. He comes by it naturally. His father was an FBI agent.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 26, 2018 04:26 PM (5Mk4N)

345 dad would whoop us every night till a quarter after twelve
then he'd get too tired, and make us whoop ourselves

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2018 04:26 PM (od8KW)

346 IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE FBI TO BE THIS CORRUPT AND THIS INCOMPETENT SIMULTANEOUSLY?

Posted by: WarEagle82 at March 26, 2018 04:27 PM (xUc0d)

347 I've actually been shot at. I've got more moral authority on the subject than Hogg.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 26, 2018 04:27 PM (iv0p7)

348 322 Hogg might show up like Jack Nicholson in The Shining in old high school yearbooks
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2018 04:23 PM (aC6Sd)

So he's ALWAYS been the caretaker?

Posted by: joncelli, little spirals in his eyes at March 26, 2018 04:27 PM (RD7QR)

349 Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2018 04:25 PM (k1TUh)

Either she knew or didn't know. Whether the FBI informant knew also doesn't change that.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 26, 2018 04:27 PM (Z+ic4)

350 I got woke.

Posted by: REDACTED at March 26, 2018 04:24 PM (VWsDy)

Backhanded out of my chair at the dinner table because he didn't like the 'tone' with which i answered my mother. He never looked up or stopped eating.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:28 PM (o7tuA)

351 346. Yes, when you can bring charges against anyone, for pretty much anything, you can be both incompetent and corrupt.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 26, 2018 04:28 PM (wGbBR)

352 9
Of what use is the FBI, except to obstruct justice?

It's time is over - abolish it

======
Hillary has found it quite useful.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at March 26, 2018 04:28 PM (7SUd4)

353 as was said upthread, it leads to the possibility that the Prosecution was intentionally shielding a co-conspirator and trying to pin all of the blame on her, which is a source of reasonable doubt.

While I could see a lawyer trying that, the guy was caught in the act and confessed, loudly and proudly. He even is on several telephone calls saying he's currently shooting up the place and why. So how you're going to get around that by claiming the FBI pulled a fast one I can only guess would involve lots of pounding the table and money being handed around.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:28 PM (39g3+)

354 What? verbal bullying is so bad, and you can't hit
back (because zero tolerance) so you get so frustrated that you shoot
somebody? Not getting the logic. Here in Phoenix where I taught you
couldn't get anyone suspended. Just ISS (in school suspension)...too
much money at stake,
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:23 PM (o7tuA)

No logic is necessary. We're talking about teenagers with incredibly low IQ's. I suspect that some part of Cruz's brain thought he might get away with it. He actually did get away for a few minutes - walking out with the rest of the students.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 04:28 PM (UBzPO)

355 I thought the parkland school was in the freshmen building.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2018 04:25 PM (wdmm9)


At my high school, everyone took classes in the same buildings. There was no such thing as a "freshman building". The whole concept seems weird.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2018 04:28 PM (8gDQu)

356 345
dad would whoop us every night till a quarter after twelve

then he'd get too tired, and make us whoop ourselves

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2018 04:26 PM (od8KW)

Damn you Boulder! I just took a sip of cawfee!!!!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:29 PM (o7tuA)

357 most corrupt people and organizations ARE incompetent

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 26, 2018 04:29 PM (hMwEB)

358 Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at March 26, 2018 04:28 PM (7SUd4)


Hey, good seeing you around. You were going through some shit a while back as I recall. Have things leveled out for you?

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 26, 2018 04:29 PM (NWiLs)

359 Didn't the actual shooting only last a short time (15 mins?) so Camera Hogg could have missed the shootings (in a different fucking building) but still been there for the lockdown?

Posted by: andycanuck at March 26, 2018 04:29 PM (ewxPW)

360 I've actually been shot at. I've got more moral authority on the subject than Hogg.

Posted by: bonhomme

--

Same here

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 26, 2018 04:29 PM (7ZVPa)

361 Back in the day I finally went all "Ralphie" from Christmas Story on my bully. I went to Catholic school and usually it was a big hammer that came down if you got caught fighting. One day I had enough and I beat the ever loving shit out of him. One of the nuns on playground duty let me finish the job. Then on the way to go see the principal (another nun) she told me that he had it coming and would see what she could do. The Principal had to punish me, I think I had a 3 days of detention or something. But they knew the kid was a little shit. My parents were called and they knew too. Normally I'd get a whack from all parties interested. My Dad was usually pretty quick with the belt, he just said. Well, that should take care of that problem, if he does it again, try to ignore it, but good for you. That was it. I thought for sure I was going to get the chair! But the adults knew he was a crapweasel. And that was the end of it and the kid never said a word to me after I kicked his ass, problem solved.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 26, 2018 04:29 PM (7qnb5)

362 Bob, that was a Weird Al quote :^D

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2018 04:29 PM (od8KW)

363 >>>>Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 26, 2018 04:21 PM (+Dllb)



------



In the video linked, Hogg HIMSELF is saying he got on his bike and went to the school when he heard about the lockdown/shooter.



Posted by: Seems Legit at March 26, 2018 04:23 PM
.
.
.I saw it and yes he did say that in that video.

The problem I have is if that is true he got at least three other students and all of their parents along with cnn and other media outlets to go along with his dramatic *reenactment* of actually being at school during the shooting and the lock down.

It seems way out there even for them.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 26, 2018 04:30 PM (+Dllb)

364 325
I've been saying for a couple weeks. There is something very wrong with this whole Hogg story.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 26, 2018 04:24 PM (jsWA

Nah, he's somewhat articulate, good-looking and says all the right things. That's usually enough for our betters in the media.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 04:30 PM (UBzPO)

365 What? verbal bullying is so bad, and you can't hit back (because zero tolerance) so you get so frustrated that you shoot somebody?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:23 PM (o7tuA)


Serious psychoactive drugs prescribed by psychiatrists tend to help this process along.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2018 04:30 PM (8gDQu)

366 362
Bob, that was a Weird Al quote :^D

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2018 04:29 PM (od8KW)

Funny!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:30 PM (o7tuA)

367 Never go Whole Hogg.

Posted by: Tanner Boyle at March 26, 2018 04:30 PM (ROV4u)

368 225---He was taking a day off from bullying...But really, can you imagine this little gay boy being a bully? With what? Hitting kids with cheese doodles?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:05 PM (o7tuA)
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In olden days, true bullies were bigger and/or stronger. If someone smaller and weaker than you picked on you, you'd smack 'em silly.

But today everyone knows that no one is allowed to smack anyone, so you will get puny kids picking on bigger ones. Seriously.
They don't throw their (neglible) weight around, of course. They just pick and pester.

Also"bullying" today includes all kinds of obnoxious, demeaning, and exclusionary behavior -- the mean-girls kind of thing. It's not just using brute force.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 26, 2018 04:30 PM (0jtPF)

369 355 I thought the parkland school was in the freshmen building.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 26, 2018 04:25 PM (wdmm9)

At my high school, everyone took classes in the same buildings. There was no such thing as a "freshman building". The whole concept seems weird.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2018 04:28 PM (8gDQu)

My high school had separate facilities for freshmen. The student body just got too damn big for the main campus.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 26, 2018 04:31 PM (NWiLs)

370 It was nice they could find Loss Hogg a suit that fit at Babies R Us.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 26, 2018 04:31 PM (7qnb5)

371 Worse part of today is down $800, and that was doing work myself.

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2018 04:31 PM (aC6Sd)

372 Probably going to be Willowed.

The FBI lied about Mrs. Terrorist casing the Pulse Nightclub with the hubby. Judge was also very perturbed about that

Can't paste the link, and tiny url is not working.

It is Glen Greenwald at the Intercept

Posted by: rd at March 26, 2018 04:31 PM (4dz1m)

373 With all these names, and the convoluted plot, I don't know if you are talking about stuff in real life, or the latest Star Wars movie.

Geevlop Nabeem is a confidential informant for the Empire. His son, Juplip Noreen, who shot up the rebel base, is possibly working for the terrorists on planet Mooveen, with the crime lord, Abbla the Smut.

In the next Star Wars film, Star Wars, the Farce Is Woke.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2018 04:31 PM (9chmE)

374

IMPREGNATE FOADDY-FI!!!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at March 26, 2018 04:32 PM (mPeei)

375 My high school had separate facilities for freshmen. The student body just got too damn big for the main campus.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 26, 2018 04:31 PM (NWiLs)


That's why my district used to have Junior High School (7,8,9) and High School (10,11,12).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2018 04:32 PM (8gDQu)

376 365
What? verbal bullying is so bad, and you can't hit back (because zero
tolerance) so you get so frustrated that you shoot somebody?



Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:23 PM (o7tuA)



Serious psychoactive drugs prescribed by psychiatrists tend to help this process along.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2018 04:30 PM (8gDQu)

Well thats true. and don't' get me started again on drugging boys for being boys and brutally suppressing their natural tendencies for letting off steam by wrestling, and running.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:32 PM (o7tuA)

377 My dad was a big, big man, huge shoulders, built like a caveman. He didn't like to spank us because he was afraid he'd cause real damage. So mom did it and she had no such fears, she'd lay into us like she was building a roof.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:33 PM (39g3+)

378 Backhanded out of my chair at the dinner table because he didn't like the 'tone' with which i answered my mother. He never looked up or stopped eating.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:28 PM (o7tuA)

Lost my mom when I was born. Don't think my Dad every got over it or ever forgave me, no matter how irrational that is.

Posted by: REDACTED at March 26, 2018 04:33 PM (VWsDy)

379 126 One thing the recent events have taught me, that when asked a question by a FBI agent to always respond, 'I do not recollect'.
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No do not even say that. Say nothing. call your lawyer. That is it. Period. Nothing. If they say you aren't under arrest, walk away. Don't even say goodbye.
Posted by: simplemind at March 26, 2018 03:50 PM (yE4gX)

You should always leave a parting fart.

Posted by: J. comey at March 26, 2018 04:33 PM (Z48ZB)

380 sorry Redacted
(hugs)

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 26, 2018 04:34 PM (hMwEB)

381 Didn't the actual shooting only last a short time (15 mins?) so Camera Hogg could have missed the shootings (in a different fucking building) but still been there for the lockdown?
Posted by: andycanuck at March 26, 2018 04:29 PM (ewxPW)

6-7minutes from entry to exit is the official timeline unless it's been changed.

So dressing in full swat like gear and gasmask, shooting up all 3 floors, taking off gear and gas mask, and exiting.

Cruz will never make it to trial. He will be suicided in jail.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 04:34 PM (ZghNV)

382 My dad was a big, big man, huge shoulders, built like a caveman. He didn't like to spank us because he was afraid he'd cause real damage. So mom did it and she had no such fears, she'd lay into us like she was building a roof.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Boo-yah! Hot wheel track FTW!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:34 PM (LkzOc)

383 So mom did it and she had no such fears, she'd lay into us like she was building a roof.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:33 PM (39g3+)

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Wooden spoons, fly swatter handles..... and hot wheels tracks.

Which were the worst. Its so humiliating to get your butt whipped by one of your favorite toys.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 04:34 PM (8XRCm)

384 >>>167 139 Don't care. WAY past the point of caring whether jihadi's get fair trials or not. Just jail em or gitmo em. Move along. "

Make sure and distinguish between a foreign Jihadi and a US citizen.

The reason this case, and the manner in which it is handled, is so important is because she is a US citizen, and anything that they can do to her, they can do to you. And they will.

As was said in the play, I would give the Devil himself Benefit of the Law, because I do that to protect my own self WITH the law.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2018 03:56 PM (k1TUh)
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Nope. Laws are for civilized times. Maybe we'll get those again some day. And a real FBI too.

Nowadays being a citizen doesn't mean much. This bish and David Hogg are both legally a citizen. The Gonzalez Shemale too.

I don't recognize any of them as my countryman. They don't even want to live in the same nation as me or you.

They are people that probably hate me and want me dead, probably you too, they've got some citizenship papers you and I also have.

That's all I have in common with them.

Is there any comradery between us and them? Any common goals hopes, dreams, or belief? Anything in common besides the basic eat, poop, sex, sleep?

We don't even have the NFL anymore. The left killed it.

I would stand up for any shenanigans happening to you or anyone else I can recognize as a countryman. Thomas Sowell, Trump, David Clarke, my neighbors, memebers of the Horde in good standing, ect.

But, I'm with ace on this - this isn't a county anymore. The left wants us dead.

So the jihadi bish goes to jail - do not pass go do not collect $200 dollars. Don't care how.

I'm sick of this shit.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu - sick of it all at March 26, 2018 04:34 PM (aqpW6)

385 how long would it take Hogh to bike 3 miles?

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 26, 2018 04:35 PM (hMwEB)

386 There's a comedian named Tim Hawkins, hilarious guy! He was talking about the phrase , "Never hit your children in anger." He said, well when would be a good time to do it? Two weeks later standing in line at Disney? Wham! "Hey, what was that for dad?"

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 26, 2018 04:35 PM (7qnb5)

387 377
My dad was a big, big man, huge shoulders, built like a caveman. He
didn't like to spank us because he was afraid he'd cause real damage.
So mom did it and she had no such fears, she'd lay into us like she was
building a roof.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:33 PM (39g3+)

Yeah, Mom did not say "wait till your father gets home'. She was The Ravage. and she had tools, like the wooden spoon.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:35 PM (o7tuA)

388 Wooden spoons, fly swatter handles..... and hot wheels tracks.

Which were the worst. Its so humiliating to get your butt whipped by one of your favorite toys.
Posted by: fixerupper


*fistbump

Hot wheels track had a sound not unlike a lightsaber.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:35 PM (LkzOc)

389 Redacted - one would think that but situation like your is stuff of lots of movies and stories

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2018 04:36 PM (aC6Sd)

390 My Mom was like a Jedi night with the wooden spoon!

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 26, 2018 04:36 PM (7qnb5)

391 Wooden spoon when she didn't use a belt or just her hand. But it was never cruel, it was not common, and she'd always do it carefully and with thought. She would tell us to go to her room and bend over the bed. She'd calm herself down, then go in and methodically whale on us, then hold us tight, tell us she loved us, and explain why we were wrong and why we got spanked.

So it was about learning, not just anger or lashing out. I thought that was awfully wise.

You should always leave a parting fart.

And not just a toot, rip one hard, lift a leg like a dog, spread your cheeks with one hand and shake the nearby windows.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:37 PM (39g3+)

392 >>>>>My dad was a big, big man, huge shoulders, built
like a caveman. He didn't like to spank us because he was afraid he'd
cause real damage. So mom did it and she had no such fears, she'd lay
into us like she was building a roof.



Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:33 PM
.
.
.My dad was like that too. Spent his life running a manual overhead machine press at Rockwell. He literally had Popeye arms and he had no problems beating the $hit out of me and my brother for transgressions real or imagined.

I remember one time he took to both of us with a belt and said he knew we did something but he didn't know what it was so he was beating us on general principles. When I brought it up after he died my mom said he didn't beat us too bad and to get over it.

He never touched my little sister though.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 26, 2018 04:37 PM (+Dllb)

393 Wooden spoons, fly swatter handles..... and hot wheels tracks.



Which were the worst. Its so humiliating to get your butt whipped by one of your favorite toys.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 04:34 PM (8XRCm)

LMAO! My Mom waited till i turned away from her and bonked me on then head with a pan. I was in HS then and she was 4ft. 11.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:37 PM (o7tuA)

394 Terribly OT: The one thing I can't stand is conservatives whining that traffic is down at Breitbart because of Facebook!!

Yeah, screw Facebook--but that's why, because screw them.

If Facebook eventually gets regulated, I can't help but think that they brought it on themselves. But, we've seen how almost every power the government takes gets used by the Virus against conservatives. It's only going to be fair as long as it takes them to figure out an angle to scuttle the fairness and a line of argument on how they aren't really doing what they are doing--or what you're doing that is so bad to call them out on something.

If people don't get a good enough percentage of Breitbart in their Soma, maybe the problem is with the Soma machine.

Posted by: Axebot at March 26, 2018 04:38 PM (vDqXW)

395 apparently if you are male the place to get sick is Des Moines, because the nurses there are DTF. on Drudge.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2018 04:38 PM (od8KW)

396 "Wooden spoons, fly swatter handles..... and hot wheels tracks.

Which were the worst. Its so humiliating to get your butt whipped by one of your favorite toys.

Posted by: fixerupper
"

Wait. Isthis the PornHub Fetish Section?

Yet, they wonder why some of us are so weird.

And you forgot the long, wooden-handled shoehorn

Posted by: Marcus T at March 26, 2018 04:38 PM (VpIIl)

397 388 - OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH, Forgot about that, happened a few times and remembered nothing of it until now, those things were like bull whips

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2018 04:38 PM (aC6Sd)

398 Boo-yah! Hot wheel track FTW!
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:34 PM (LkzOc)

You haven't lived until you've been beaten with a wooden cooking spoon.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 04:39 PM (UBzPO)

399 you guys are killing me!!! LMAO!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:39 PM (o7tuA)

400 excuse me, Fayette County, wherever that is. the Des Moines Register is reporting it.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2018 04:39 PM (od8KW)

401
It's almost like the FBI is a bunch of bumbling, incompetent boobs, isn't it? Female Body Inspectors.

The Three Stooges would do a better job, I think.

Does anyone know how many ficuses are in the FBI offices? That would explain a lot, now that I'm thinking about it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 26, 2018 04:40 PM (8O3HH)

402 apparently if you are male the place to get sick is Des Moines, because the nurses there are DTF. on Drudge.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2018 04:38 PM (od8KW)


I can believe that. I would be sick if I was in Des Moines.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2018 04:40 PM (9chmE)

403 So mom did it and she had no such fears, she'd lay into us like she was building a roof.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:33 PM (39g3+)


My parents were pretty strict disciplinarians. I don't remember what I did, but I distinctly remember standing next to my Old Man, did something "smart alecky" and next thing I knew I was bouncing off the wall several feet away. Mom (she lied on her driver's license and said she was 5 feet tall) kept a ruler on the front seat of the car so she could reach back and smack my brother and I when we were misbehaving in the back seat.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 26, 2018 04:40 PM (5Yee7)

404 The FBI lied about Mrs. Terrorist casing the Pulse Nightclub with the hubby. Judge was also very perturbed about that

Can't paste the link, and tiny url is not working.

It is Glen Greenwald at the Intercept
Posted by: rd

Soooo, the FBI lied about the defendant, AND concealed an association between themselves and a relative of the shooter?

Posted by: Reynolds wrap on sale now! $4.99 at March 26, 2018 04:40 PM (Fa3cJ)

405 My Mom was like a Jedi night with the wooden spoon!
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 26, 2018 04:36 PM (7qnb5)
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Accio Spoon!

Posted by: Minnfidel's Mom at March 26, 2018 04:40 PM (vDqXW)

406 They don't want Miss Mateen to have a full public trial with standard procedures and introduction of all evidence. I'm rolling with this was an intentional fuck up by the FBI for reasons we will never know.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 04:40 PM (ZghNV)

407 The FBI lied about Omar's wife helping him case the Pulse Nightclub. They lied to the judge to get her locked up without bail. They knew they lied.

They also wrote out her confession for her, and she signed it after being browbeaten for 17 hours?

https://bit.ly/2GbNLu6

Posted by: rd at March 26, 2018 04:40 PM (4dz1m)

408 And you forgot the long, wooden-handled shoehorn

Posted by: Marcus T at March 26, 2018 04:38 PM (VpIIl)

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Pfffft. We were so poor none of us had shoes.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 04:40 PM (8XRCm)

409 My dad belted me a few times when i didn't deserve it. When i protested he said "that's for what i didn't catch you doing.' I couldn't argue with that.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:40 PM (o7tuA)

410 The thing is we all laugh about it and remember this not with anger, bitterness, hate, or some deep need for violence. That's what the "never spank kids it only teaches them violence and that its okay for someone big to hit someone little!" fools don't get.

Physical punishment should be used carefully and only in proper need, but it should be used. This whole "time out" thing is retarded.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:41 PM (39g3+)

411 The IQ question earlier

The US Army doesn't allow in people with an IQ below 84. Legally low 80s used to be the cut off for mentally handicapped. I think it was changed in the 90s, but I would have to check.

Either way, 80 is dumb. And I specifically use that word dumb Because at 80 IQ it is hard for someone to read and follow instructions. 80 IQ working a cash register is difficult.

It's not funny *derp* its quite sad.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu - sick of it all at March 26, 2018 04:41 PM (aqpW6)

412 Remember when you just got to darn big to be beat with that wooden spoon. I grabbed it and broke it in half.

Then I joined the service so I would not be there when dad got home...

Posted by: Marcus T at March 26, 2018 04:41 PM (VpIIl)

413 Wooden spoons were not so bad they broke. Mom bought that nylon bastard from Tupperware. THAT thing sucked

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 26, 2018 04:41 PM (jsWA8)

414 "Yeah, Mom did not say "wait till your father gets home'. She was The Ravage. and she had tools, like the wooden spoon. "

My mom pulled that on me and my brother for jumping off the roof. We go upstairs and wait for it. he gets home and she tells him the washing machine is broke. He works on it until about 9pm. When he's done she goes into what them boys were up to and he just about let her have it.

Man we dodged one that night!

Posted by: DanMan at March 26, 2018 04:41 PM (XTiHL)

415 You haven't lived until you've been beaten with a wooden cooking spoon.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans


Those hurt like a bitch. They have no give.
Never got one from them. Friends did.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:42 PM (z8tEv)

416 343---The Founders fixed Democracy by subjecting it to the limits imposed by an impartial Constitution.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2018 04:26 PM (8gDQu)
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Unfortunately, a piece of paper does not have its own agency and powers of execution. It takes human beings to administer and uphold it.
*sigh*

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 26, 2018 04:42 PM (0jtPF)

417 The hell with wooden spoons. My mom threw a fork at me and stuck it in my heel as I was running away. No escaping justice with her. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 26, 2018 04:42 PM (aMlLZ)

418 Mom (she lied on her driver's license and said she was 5 feet tall) kept a ruler on the front seat of the car so she could reach back and smack my brother and I when we were misbehaving in the back seat.

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Oh. HELL no.

My Mom just pulled over to enforce the law.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 04:42 PM (8XRCm)

419 The worst wippin I can remember a switch from the willow out front was used. I had to select the branch too. Lesson learned... Mom did no lasting damage but I remember. I don't remember what shitty thing I did though.

Posted by: USNtakim Come and take them! Asshole. at March 26, 2018 04:42 PM (0OmEj)

420 " Think about this; think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 04:42 PM (UBzPO)

421 Those hurt like a bitch. They have no give.
Never got one from them. Friends did.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:42 PM (z8tEv)

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My Moms spoons had the one big hole in the middle

Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 04:43 PM (8XRCm)

422 Remember if your elbows were on the table and you got a fork put in it?

Posted by: Marcus T at March 26, 2018 04:43 PM (VpIIl)

423 Seems perfectly above-board to me!

Posted by: Agent John Connolly at March 26, 2018 04:43 PM (rznWS)

424 The thing is we all laugh about it and remember this not with anger, bitterness, hate, or some deep need for violence. That's what the "never spank kids it only teaches them violence and that its okay for someone big to hit someone little!" fools don't get.

Physical punishment should be used carefully and only in proper need, but it should be used. This whole "time out" thing is retarded.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Exactly. I earned every ass whipping I received.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:43 PM (z8tEv)

425 412
Remember when you just got to darn big to be beat with that wooden spoon. I grabbed it and broke it in half.
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I did the same thing!!!! What I didn't know is that mom had an even bigger wooden spoon.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 26, 2018 04:43 PM (UBzPO)

426 When i protested he said "that's for what i didn't catch you doing.' I couldn't argue with that.

No boy is going to be able to get out of that one. I got spanked once without deserving it, but all it did was help me get to sleep. I was feeling ill and couldn't sleep, so my brother suggested I lay down on the floor under the little throw rug where it was cooler and that seemed like a good idea.

Well, apparently that was the final straw of us making too much noise and romping around in the room cause in comes mom, finds me on the floor under a rug and I got it good.

Parents aren't perfect. The important thing to remember is that kids pretty much understand that, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:43 PM (39g3+)

427 nood stormy ...

Posted by: andycanuck at March 26, 2018 04:43 PM (ewxPW)

428 >>>>The thing is we all laugh about it and remember this
not with anger, bitterness, hate, or some deep need for violence.
That's what the "never spank kids it only teaches them violence and that
its okay for someone big to hit someone little!" fools don't get.



Physical punishment should be used carefully and only in proper
need, but it should be used. This whole "time out" thing is retarded.



Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:41 PM
.
.
.Uh not all of us laugh and remember it the way you do, trust me.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 26, 2018 04:44 PM (+Dllb)

429 excuse me, Fayette County, wherever that is. the Des Moines Register is reporting it.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 26, 2018 04:39 PM (od8KW)


Oh. They're CNAs. Not nurses. That makes a huuuuuge difference.


It's like finding out that some Perkins waitresses are being tag-teamed by famous and semi-famous customers.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2018 04:44 PM (9chmE)

430 There was a point when whatever they beat me with broke before they were finished. It was like a badge of honor after awhile. I even egged them on - "you can do better than that".

That's when they gave up.


Posted by: Marcus T at March 26, 2018 04:45 PM (VpIIl)

431 415
You haven't lived until you've been beaten with a wooden cooking spoon.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans





Those hurt like a bitch. They have no give.

Never got one from them. Friends did.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 26, 2018 04:42 PM (z8tEv)
My Aunt Clara had 3 boys. youngest was my age. When she move to Fl. in retirement she found several wooden spoons behind the stove. The boys threw them back there. She thought she was loosing her mind misplacing them all the time.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:45 PM (o7tuA)

432
Nood

Stormy

Spanking

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 26, 2018 04:45 PM (pNxlR)

433 Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu - sick of it all at March 26, 2018 04:34 PM (aqpW6)

Commies don't sleep.

Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 04:45 PM (ZghNV)

434 The hell with wooden spoons. My mom threw a fork at me and stuck it in my heel as I was running away. No escaping justice with her. lol

Narrator: Berserker's mom was a ninja

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:46 PM (39g3+)

435
My Moms spoons had the one big hole in the middle

Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 04:43 PM (8XRCm)

Physics? For speed?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:46 PM (o7tuA)

436
Wooden spoons, fly swatter handles..... and hot wheels tracks.

My mom had a store bought paddle specifically designed for the purpose.It actually had "heat for the seat" and a picture a child with a red ass painted on it.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 26, 2018 04:46 PM (lKyWE)

437 My mom had a store bought paddle specifically
designed for the purpose.It actually had "heat for the seat" and a
picture a child with a red ass painted on it.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 26, 2018 04:46 PM (lKyWE)

LOL!!! That is epic.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 26, 2018 04:47 PM (o7tuA)

438 I am more fearful of the FBI and their abuses than the terrorists.

I hoped the burning twenty kids dead at Waco was a one-off fuckup. It is standard FBI operating procedures.

Posted by: rd at March 26, 2018 04:47 PM (4dz1m)

439 Uh not all of us laugh and remember it the way you do, trust me.

There's obviously a line where it turns into child abuse and brutality, I think everyone sane knows and understands that -- and the difference between a spanking as punishment and parents just lashing out in fury or caprice.

I'm confident you know that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 26, 2018 04:48 PM (39g3+)

440 All in all my dad ( who helped me pull up the well pump today) wasn't the discipline after pretty young because I knew better, nor my mom same reason. But my grandmother would especially as I was oldest and so after beating on younger cousins would get the retaliation.

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2018 04:48 PM (aC6Sd)

441 Oh. HELL no.

My Mom just pulled over to enforce the law.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 26, 2018 04:42 PM (8XRCm)


No, Mom would pull off to the side of the road. She just couldn't reach us without the "Sacred Ruler of Discipline" and didn't want to have to get out of the car to beat our asses.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 26, 2018 04:48 PM (5Yee7)

442 Another spanking thread?

Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2018 04:49 PM (aC6Sd)

443 380 sorry Redacted
(hugs)
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 26, 2018 04:34 PM

Thanks but not necessary. I never knew her or that matter my father. I was raised by my grandparents, which was probably the greatest experience of my life.

Posted by: REDACTED at March 26, 2018 04:49 PM (VWsDy)

444 283 All swords are double edged.Otherwise theyd be a machete'.

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Brow me.
Posted by: Katana at March 26, 2018 04:01 PM

Likewise.

Posted by: Backsword, Sabre, Scimitar, Dao, Kopis, Falx, Falcata, & Falchion


I'd often heard that eskimos have 27 words for "machete"

Posted by: Anachronda at March 26, 2018 04:49 PM (sGtp+)

445 http://bit.ly/2pGUMNo
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Kevin Hogg, David Hogg's Dad: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com
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Before joining the FBI, Kevin Hogg, 51, was a Navy pilot and an elementary school teacher, he told CNN in the video at the top of the page. He explained that he was dumbfounded that anyone would think he was somehow using his son to trick the country. My career has been perfect.
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Betcha Andy McCabe would have said the same thing
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Kevin Hogg, a Republican, retired from the FBI because he was diagnosed with early-onset Parkinson's disease, his wife Rebecca Boldrick told The Washington Post. The family didn't reveal this before because Kevin felt embarrassed by his diagnosis, she said.
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Just like James Comey & Andy McCabe & Lester Holt. all Self described Reps.
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If Reps. are so terrible why are the all self Described Reps.? the world wonders

Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 26, 2018 04:52 PM (y3aQB)

446 I'd often heard that eskimos have 27 words for "machete"
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& 2 are Danny & Trejo

Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 26, 2018 04:52 PM (y3aQB)

447 Anyone ever seen David Hogg and Cindy Sheehan in the same room? As I recall, she hadn't seen her son since the delivery room.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 26, 2018 04:55 PM (v7AcZ)

448 one time i got so mad at my mom after spanking me that i concocted a plan to make her sorry. i think i was about 5.

i poured red lavoris mouthwash in my sink, went and got her and said, "look at the blood!"

unfortunately she spanked me again.
probably harder than the first time.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 26, 2018 04:55 PM (fbfaJ)

449 I'd spit teeth like Chiclets whenever Paw come home from prison.
Belt, horsewhip, rubber hose, fan belt, you name it, I wuz whupped by it.
Also, I do not know the names of any motion picture actors or pop stars.
I cut the cable and threw the tele-veezion machine out the window.

Look upon my many virtues, o ye less-than-ideally conservatives!

Not calling anyone a liar here. Your actual reality is horse shit, though.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 26, 2018 05:06 PM (H5rtT)

450 "Found the shady live David Hogg school shooting video with multiple time stamps."

Interesting... There are no time stamps at all in that video. Conspiracy?

Posted by: Chris M at March 26, 2018 05:06 PM (eAZVt)

451 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZVioBDjFeM
Posted by: Monk at March 26, 2018 04:09 PM (ZghNV)

All of the Camera Hogg stuff has an afternoon time stamp. The 9:32 time stamp was from Alex View (another student) who recorded the exodus from the school, not Hogg. So that Attention Hogg was not there for the event.

Survivor my arse.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at March 26, 2018 05:30 PM (O9qtX)

452 It's the wife! It's the father! It's the wife! It's the father! It's the wife! It's the father! It's the wife! It's the father!

It's both. They were both egging this lavender jihadi on.

And, as ALWAYS, the FBI was right there, too. Hmmm...

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 26, 2018 05:58 PM (Ndje9)

453 BTW, you know who else was an FBI source?

Carter Page. In addition to being a lifelong Democrat, serving in the Clinton Administration.

Treehouse: "In 2013 Carter Page was working as an under-cover employee (UCE) of the FBI, helping them to build a case against "Evgeny Buryakov". In March 2016 Carter Page remained their informant pre-trial. ...In March of 2016 Buryakov pleaded GUILTY."

And that fall, Page volunteered for the Trump Campaign--and the FBI told the FISA Court he was now a Russian agent. He went from helping the FBI to convict Russian agents to being called a Russian agent by the FBI in a few moths time.

And if he hadn't volunteered, no FISA warrant.

Hmmm...

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 26, 2018 06:28 PM (Ndje9)

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