Masculinity: Threat or Menace?

That's the old Jim Shooter-penned headline of J. Jonah Jameson's biased media rag: SPIDER-MAN: THREAT OR MENACE?

This guy, pointed out by Christopher Taylor, writes about his own experiences of his pussy dad trying to de-pussify him as a child and failing like a big pussy.

I'd never seen my father hunt, he'd never talked about hunting, and I’d never seen a gun in the house before. But one day I came home from school, and Dad was home early, waiting for me with that gun. “Time for you to learn this," he’d said"
We were both shivering; it was freezing in rural Mattoon, my tiny hometown in southern Illinois, closer to Kentucky than Chicago, but it wasn't just that. Unsteady and unsure of himself, he loaded a bullet into the chamber and told me to aim somewhere deep into one of the endless cornfields that make up whole swathes of this country still, the sort of vast expanse that you can fire a rifle blindly into and not worry about hitting anything anyone would ever notice. I told him I did not want to. He nodded gently and said he knew that but I had to fire anyway. I wanted to make him happy, or least not make him mad, so I held the gun out in front of me, with dinosaur arms, put my finger on the trigger and, holding my breath and biting my lip so hard that my braces started to crank and ache, pulled it.
The kickback was so powerful and immediate that it sent the weapon flying behind me, but what I most remember was the sound. The whole world screamed blinding white; I didn’t even hear my father scramble behind me to pick the rifle off the ground. He was ashen -- plainly terrified, even though nothing that bad had actually happened. I must have looked stricken, too, because he put his arm around me and, for one of the few times I can remember, apologized. "I shouldn’t have done that," he said. "I know you didn’t want to, but I thought it was something that a man was supposed to do. It wasn't." He smiled. "To tell you the truth, I didn't really want to do that either."
At least I think this is what he said: My ears were still screaming. Neither one of us ever fired a gun again.

The first gun I ever fired was a friend's 30-30. Not gonna lie; the kickback was powerful, the blast was scarifying, and I was pretty uncomfortable with the whole endeavor.

Still: I wasn't a pussy about it. I did realize this was a powerful weapon and I really ought to have some real instruction about how to hold it securely and how to fire it accurately, and that my friend wasn't going to be able to supply that.

I shot some later when I had more knowlegable instruction.

There's a difference between thinking a physical thing is dangerous and must be treated with care and skill and thinking, irrationally, that a physical thing is a totemic evil and exists more on a symbolic plane than on the prime material plane.

He tweedles on a bit about White Male Privilege and Toxic Masculinity:

For generations, boys have been raised in environments that seemed designed to cultivate, and then sublimate, aggression, sometimes right up to the border of sociopathy. (We recoil at Fight Club, but it basically depicts the secret life of boys aged 8 to 14. Men are Tyler Durden spliced with Beavis.)
But those masculine scripts seem especially problematic today: Trained by superhero movies, inspired by planet-straddling athlete-gods and tech tycoons more powerful than entire governments, boys are reared to tame their aggressions, then asked to navigate a bleak, winner-take-all economic landscape. Thanks in part to more enlightened attitudes about gender and parenting, it is hard not to see male entitlement and aggression as toxic forces degrading our culture. But it is also hard not to notice that the world is now run by the aggressive and the bullying.
It is also hard not to notice that, in many ways, and on average, boys are falling behind.

This is weird. He hasn't referenced Trump yet.

...
There is a male chauvinist and part-time white supremacist in the White House, but at some basic level that came to pass in part because both groups came out in droves to vote feeling themselves pushed into retreat.

There you go. The world makes sense again.

Which they are, in a way. The country was once set up solely for the benefit of dudes like me. Now, it is merely mostly set up that way. In a generation, maybe we'll hit slightly. For essentially all of human history, science fiction writer John Scalzi has memorably written, if you have been born a straight white male, it is as if you are playing a computer game called "The Real World" with the difficulty set on the lowest level.
As children, we have not had parents setting us aside to tell us the dangers of walking down the street alone at night, or being pulled over by a police officer, or heading to a party with alcohol and strangers. We are told the opposite, in fact. We have been encouraged, almost demanded, to be aggressive -- to assert, yes, our privilege. We are told, in more innocent, even helpful terms, that we belong everywhere. We are expected to see what we want and to grab it.

Dude, your cuck dad couldn't even teach you how to fire a 20-gauge shotgun. You yourself certainly weren't taught to be aggressive; you're merely guessing about how other boys were taught.

The thing is, as we know, we do not live in a context-less world; this is a zero-sum game. And that aggressiveness and entitlement -- the positive advice to children to be whatever they want, weaponized over the generations == has to come at a cost, someone else’s cost. The power white American boys have been taught to seize for generations comes from the already powerless, women, people of color, everyone who isn't us.
Which is why, in a macro sense, the lessening power of men (straight and white particularly) is an unquestioned societal good. When others rise, we must fall. It will be good not just in a moral sense, but a practical one. As a patriotic American who believes our country is a better place when all have an equal chance, and who believes it is time for the historical ledger to be balanced, this is what I want for the future.

And you've done your own N=1 project to fail yourself downwards.

Now, if you want to read a rebuttal to this -- and a sensible analysis of the dysfunction in masculinity -- see Jesse Kelly in The Federalist.

Big picture, his idea is simple and obviously true: Boys have an innate bias towards impulsiveness, daring, aggression, and, yes, even to violence, and it's precisely by training boys how to channel these sometimes good, sometimes bad impulses into positive directions that we turn boys into well-functioning men.

Our society has a mass failure of fatherhood. Even many of the fathers who don’t run out on their families can’t seem to figure out how to turn boys into men. That’s because most men don’t realize that is the goal for raising boys. Not to coddle them. Not to dump your insecurities on them. Not to lie to them about what life is and what life isn’t. Your mission as a father is to turn that boy into a man.
Will’s father failed him that day. No man teaches his son to shoot by handing him a 20-gauge shotgun, with no instruction on its operation, and telling him to fire away. That’s a half measure. It’s lazy parenting.

Hard parenting is sitting a son down and teaching him how to use a weapon safely. Tell him how deadly a weapon can be, then show him how to operate it with confidence and skill. That is being a father.

The other possibility, the one favored by the progressive cultural hegemony and weakling men, is just to make men better by making them women.

This leads to many more problems that it solves, because only boys who are already a bit feminine are fully feminizable, and you have to provide a positive channel for masculine energy for the many boys who are not fully feminizable.

But we're now at the point where you cannot say "There's nothing wrong with boys." We said that, of course, for 50 years of girls, encouraging them to be more daring, aggressive, and adventurous, but for the boys, our society can only say: Be like good girls.

That's just not going to work for many if not most boys, and is just going to leave them feeling degraded (because the are in fact being degraded) and angry, and without a socially-useful method of channeling aggression.

Jordan Peterson had a lot of interesting points to make on how boys playing in roughhouse ways helps to socialize them and teaches them the important concept of fairness and sportsmanship -- of not being bullies, of not being dicks.

An example he gives is that a kid who wrestles his brothers, and would like to keep wrestling his brothers, has to let his brothers win at least 30% of the time, or else they'll just refuse to wrestle entirely. It's not a rule that ever gets explicitly taught, but rats, for example, observe this rule in roughhouse play, and boys will socialize each other into observing this unstated rule, if permitted to roughhouse play.

Figuring that out -- you have to let your brothers win on occasion if you want to keep playing the game -- lets you continue to get good at roughhousing while also letting your younger brothers get better at it, and gaining some confidence at it, rather than just everyone stopping and no longer improving.

Simply yelling at boys that they must not roughhouse and must instead be well-behaved young girls does no good for anyone.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 07:28 PM

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1 st?

Posted by: wth at March 19, 2018 07:21 PM (HgMAr)

2 yep

Posted by: wth at March 19, 2018 07:21 PM (HgMAr)

3 Quite the movie, it must have been.

Posted by: Makatta at March 19, 2018 07:24 PM (BuB4M)

4 This guy, pointed out by Christopher Taylor, writes about his own experiences of his pussy dad trying to de-pussify him as a child and failing like a big pussy.

Poetry like this is why I can never quit the HQ.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 07:24 PM (NWiLs)

5 True.

Posted by: Caliban at March 19, 2018 07:26 PM (QE8X6)

6 20 gauge shot guns are ghey

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 19, 2018 07:26 PM (3fxCO)

7 T50

Posted by: Weasel at March 19, 2018 07:26 PM (MVjcR)

8 I still dream of Daddy.

Posted by: Shep Smith at March 19, 2018 07:26 PM (oVJmc)

9 Unsteady and unsure of himself, he loaded a bullet into the chamber and
told me to aim somewhere deep into one of the endless cornfields that
make up whole swathes of this country still, the sort of vast expanse
that you can fire a rifle blindly into and not worry about hitting
anything anyone would ever notice.

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Yay for not knowing at all how safe gun handling works and for also being proud of it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I'm No Longer Selling ARs Until My $300 Ones Will Go For $1000 at March 19, 2018 07:27 PM (JTMqu)

10 Threat or Menance are the only choices?

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at March 19, 2018 07:27 PM (MtNHs)

11 >>The kickback was so powerful ...

Wait until you feel it from the other side of the barrel.

Posted by: Millenial Douchebag What Has A Man Bun at March 19, 2018 07:27 PM (r9UYA)

12 How to Raise a Boy I'm not sure what to think about what my dad tried to teach me. So what should I teach my sons?

Not to be like you. Or your dad, come to that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:27 PM (YqDXo)

13 We were both shivering; it was freezing in rural Mattoon

======

Were you hunting for the Mad Gasser?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Gasser_of_Mattoon

Posted by: josephistan at March 19, 2018 07:28 PM (ANIFC)

14 20 gauge shot guns are ghey

No better gun to shoot dove and quail with.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 19, 2018 07:28 PM (JLq18)

15 There is a male chauvinist and part-time white supremacist in the White House

"Part time white supremacist". Thank goodness he's only part time, Otherwise every non white person in America would be placed in a camp./s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2018 07:28 PM (tpDAe)

16 off mille sock

Posted by: Under Fire at March 19, 2018 07:28 PM (r9UYA)

17 What was the name of the movie again?

Posted by: Legion of Gloomer at March 19, 2018 07:28 PM (HVB7P)

18 >>>20 gauge shot guns are ghey

20 gauge, 21 gauge, whatever gets the job done

Posted by: Mr. Mom, Shotgun Hunter at March 19, 2018 07:28 PM (8rNrN)

19 Next up: dad takes junior to his first bathhouse.

Somehow I think he may have been more familiar with that scenario.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:28 PM (YqDXo)

20 "As children, we have not had parents setting us aside to tell us the dangers of walking down the street alone at night, or being pulled over by a police officer, or heading to a party with alcohol and strangers. We are told the opposite, in fact."

Um, speak for yourself, geezer. Call if you're running late so M&D don't worry, grab your paperwork and hold it with your hands on the wheel until the officer asks for it, and stick with your friends and leave together at house parties.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 07:29 PM (G8B7r)

21 14 20 gauge shot guns are ghey

No better gun to shoot dove and quail with.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 19, 2018 07:28 PM (JLq1

Dove and quail are ghey.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 07:29 PM (NWiLs)

22 >>>10 Threat or Menace are the only choices?

yes that's the joke.

Jim Shooter predicted the future of media way back in 1980 or whatever.

Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 07:29 PM (8rNrN)

23 >No better gun to shoot dove and quail with.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 19, 2018 07:28 PM (JLq1

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Not if you are as bad a shot as me. 12 gauge is my only hope.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 19, 2018 07:29 PM (3fxCO)

24 Part time white supremacist". Thank goodness he's only part time, Otherwise every non white person in America would be placed in a camp./s

I wonder what his part time white supremacy schedule is. 3 hours each weekday and alternate Saturdays?

Posted by: LASue at March 19, 2018 07:30 PM (Z48ZB)

25 This nancy boy's dad didn't do him any favors but 20 gauge shotguns are what we have the 65 year old women shoot when we do the skeet/trap shooting events. Any boy above the age of 10 should be able to handle this. Pussy is as pussy does.

Posted by: Timon at March 19, 2018 07:30 PM (NTM5E)

26 Loaded a bullet into a shotgun?

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 19, 2018 07:30 PM (2yngH)

27 I love Jordan Peterson. Just started his book. It's not an easy read. The first 2 chapters my eyes were glazing over but by the 3rd chapter I think he may have realized his was getting waayyyy more into the weeds that he needed to go because it definitely gets easier.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 19, 2018 07:30 PM (dUJdY)

28 I fired a 30-30 the first time when I was 8. A Winchester lever action, it had a shock pad on the buttstock, but it still made my shoulder sore. I was hooked from that moment on.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 19, 2018 07:30 PM (IuYIh)

29 Where's the part where they went to a gay porn theater?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 19, 2018 07:30 PM (4ErVI)

30 I remember reading something a while ago by some male reporterette talking about how terrifying it was to shoot a gun.
Is this the same guy?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 19, 2018 07:30 PM (nBr1j)

31 Am I the only one who breaks out in hives on hearing one of these "men" bleating out his pathetic cri de coeur?

Stop ovulating. You're nauseating people.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:30 PM (YqDXo)

32
"As children, we have not had parents setting us aside to tell us the
dangers of walking down the street alone at night, or being pulled over
by a police officer, or heading to a party with alcohol and strangers.
We are told the opposite, in fact."

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God help us all if this is true about 50%+ of the country.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I'm No Longer Selling ARs Until My $300 Ones Will Go For $1000 at March 19, 2018 07:31 PM (JTMqu)

33 Guy sounds like a fag.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 19, 2018 07:31 PM (O5Q3r)

34 +1 for the Jordan Peterson interview, the man is a prime communicator.

Nice fisking - how would a pussy like this even recognize masculinity? What's his example?

Posted by: Jason M at March 19, 2018 07:31 PM (S1+dw)

35 >26
Loaded a bullet into a shotgun?

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 19, 2018 07:30 PM (2yngH)<

Slug, not bullet.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 19, 2018 07:31 PM (3fxCO)

36 26 Loaded a bullet into a shotgun?
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 19, 2018 07:30 PM (2yngH)

There's your problem!

Posted by: josephistan at March 19, 2018 07:31 PM (ANIFC)

37 As children, we have not had parents setting us aside to tell us the
dangers of walking down the street alone at night, or being pulled over
by a police officer, or heading to a party with alcohol and strangers.
We are told the opposite, in fact.

Sounds about right!

Posted by: Bizarro World at March 19, 2018 07:31 PM (nVNDV)

38 What we actually have is toxic feminism.

Boys don't learn the same way as girls do. They are up to their eyeballs in male hormones and are not able to sit quietly and study. They also have expectations and if they aren't met, they will get bored and become restless.

Teachers used to know this and would account for it.

But too many experimenters claimed this was bad and began making girls out of boys. Or at least trying to.

Some educators actually were trying to elicit this response as the destruction of the male figure in the country would bring down the family and create chaos in the country.

As it has. Boys now feel worthless and unneeded. They feel rejected and so they reject the society/community they should be protecting.

This is not good and will not end well.

As it spreads even into the rural areas it will only get worse.

This is the desired outcome by such as Ayers and his ilk and by the marxist feminists.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 19, 2018 07:31 PM (MioLM)

39 I'd never seen my father hunt, he'd never talked about hunting, and I'd never seen a gun in the house before. But one day I came home from school, and Dad was home early, waiting for me with that gun. "Time for you to learn this," he'd said"
[...]
I shouldn't have done that," he said. "I know you didn't want to, but I thought it was something that a man was supposed to do. It wasn't." He smiled. "To tell you the truth, I didn't really want to do that either."

++++

Sounds like fiction. Like the kind of thing a pansy who has never had his hands on a gun wishes would happen in gun-owning households.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 19, 2018 07:32 PM (pvjTE)

40 24 Part time white supremacist". Thank goodness he's only part time, Otherwise every non white person in America would be placed in a camp./s

I wonder what his part time white supremacy schedule is. 3 hours each weekday and alternate Saturdays?
Posted by: LASue at March 19, 2018 07:30 PM (Z48ZB)

I'm sorry but if you want a dash of white supremacy you'll have to come back Saturday between noon and three.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 19, 2018 07:32 PM (nBr1j)

41 >>Guy sounds like a fag.

Who has fucked up shit.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 19, 2018 07:32 PM (/tuJf)

42 >>>26 Loaded a bullet into a shotgun?

bullet, shell, whatever gets the job done

Posted by: Mr. Mom, Expert Gunslinger at March 19, 2018 07:32 PM (8rNrN)

43 Yep. Guy's a fag and his shit is all retarded.

I shot my dad's .22 pistol when I was 7 years old. I hit the coke can on the first try, too.

Now I own a lovely bra holster for my CC, but I will just bet his manboobs could hide it better than me.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 07:32 PM (7UW64)

44 "As children, we have not had parents setting us aside to tell us the dangers of walking down the street alone at night, or being pulled over by a police officer, or heading to a party with alcohol and strangers. We are told the opposite, in fact."

Ummm no. All of this stuff is parenting 101. The author of that piece was obviously raised by some really lazy people.

Posted by: LASue at March 19, 2018 07:32 PM (Z48ZB)

45 One time when I was about 14 my grandpa threw me the keys to his truck and a dollar and told me to go down to the store and get him some cigs. I was never the same after that.

Posted by: freaked at March 19, 2018 07:32 PM (UdKB7)

46 Wait...he loaded "a bullet in the chamber" of a 20 gauge shotgun...Firearms expert that guy is.

It's amazing this dipshit wasn't holding the gun backwards and shooting something behind himself.

Posted by: Timon at March 19, 2018 07:32 PM (NTM5E)

47 About to enter high school. 20 gauge. Should have been no problem. He must have held the butt out several inches from his shoulder, with a loose faggy grip. And his incompetent father let him do it.

Maybe it stood to reason -- hold the scary gun far away from your body so it can't hurt you.

If he had a brain he would have covered up this story. This makes it look like he's a dick because his father was a dick-- like it's genetic.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 19, 2018 07:32 PM (Uv2+Q)

48 Muh guns are evil and scary m-kay. FFS grow some balls dude. SMH. No wonder a significant portion of Americans do not care for firearms. They are scared of them or off of them them and have no idea of how guns work or how to use them. Teach you sons and daughters. Please! If you have never Been shooting get instruction. There is nothing more satisfying than taking a new shooter to the range.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at March 19, 2018 07:33 PM (0OmEj)

49 That guy wouldn't know a zero-sum game if it walked up and cut his wallet out of his front pouch. What a bag of soft meat.

Posted by: goon at March 19, 2018 07:33 PM (EaQ6/)

50 There is a male chauvinist and part-time white supremacist in the White House

And there is a full-time faggot writing for NY magazine. What's your point?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:33 PM (YqDXo)

51 Posted by: Muad'dib at March 19, 2018 07:29 PM

Heh! No choke, pray and spray with 00?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 19, 2018 07:33 PM (JLq18)

52 It always amazes me how white liberals are so concerned with other people's (Non-white whatevers) place in this world.

It's like they are passive passively aggressive.

And talk about low T.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 19, 2018 07:33 PM (EoRCO)

53 The failure here is that they both weren't slamming Black Velvet with PBR chasers. And listening to Merle Haggard 8-tracks.

Posted by: Fritz at March 19, 2018 07:33 PM (bJ0w+)

54 The first time I shot a gun I laughed like an idiot and bought a half dozen or so for myself.

Posted by: fb at March 19, 2018 07:33 PM (TeGg7)

55 Sounds like fiction. Like the kind of thing a pansy who has never had his hands on a gun wishes would happen in gun-owning households.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 19, 2018 07:32 PM (pvjTE)

Sounds like a guy who wasn't potty trained until he was eight years old, and now wears a man bun.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 07:34 PM (7UW64)

56 I was very fortunate in my choice of a father .
Here's to him and those like him .
Raises glass .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 19, 2018 07:34 PM (vbqhl)

57 >>> About to enter high school. 20 gauge. Should have been no problem. He must have held the butt out several inches from his shoulder, with a loose faggy grip. And his incompetent father let him do it.

His dad apparently did no prior research or practice himself.

Had no other man to contact, apparently, to ask him for pointers or a two hour bit of coaching.

It's almost like he was setting his pussy son up for an "accident."

Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 07:34 PM (8rNrN)

58 Sounds like a guy who wasn't potty trained until he was eight years old, and now wears a man bun.

Just sayin'.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 07:34 PM (7UW64)

Breast fed until he was 13.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 19, 2018 07:34 PM (nBr1j)

59 My dad loved hunting, but the camp was so far away. So all us kids learned fishing. The only drawback of having brothers was I never learned to clean a fish properly because they liked blood and guts. And I never got to go on the two week fishing trips because boys only.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 07:34 PM (G8B7r)

60 >Now I own a lovely bra holster for my CC, but I will just bet his manboobs could hide it better than me.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 07:32 PM (7UW64)<

OMG, you're an 'ette. I'm so clueless.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 19, 2018 07:35 PM (3fxCO)

61 the story of Dad forcing the kid to shoot, gun flying, dad apologized ... fake. Scripted ... to show old white men are evil, the kids need to teach them the better way of feminism, pacifism, or something.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 19, 2018 07:35 PM (bT8Z4)

62 44 "As children, we have not had parents setting us aside to tell us the dangers of walking down the street alone at night, or being pulled over by a police officer, or heading to a party with alcohol and strangers. We are told the opposite, in fact."

Ummm no. All of this stuff is parenting 101. The author of that piece was obviously raised by some really lazy people.
Posted by: LASue at March 19, 2018 07:32 PM (Z48ZB)

Lol. That reminds me of the Simpsons episode in which Homer & Marge are court ordered to attend remedial parenting classes. The teacher tells them things like "if you leave milk out, it can go sour. Put it in the refrigerator or failing that, a cool wet sack"

Posted by: josephistan at March 19, 2018 07:35 PM (ANIFC)

63 54 The first time I shot a gun I laughed like an idiot and bought a half dozen or so for myself.

Posted by: fb at March 19, 2018 07:33 PM (TeGg7)

I danced around firing up in the air.

I should've left the house first though.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 19, 2018 07:36 PM (4ErVI)

64 Well, the world needs fashion designers too, Danny...

Posted by: Judge Smails at March 19, 2018 07:36 PM (O5Q3r)

65 It's odd. I have the impression most normals like the experience of shooting--if given proper instruction.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 19, 2018 07:36 PM (nBr1j)

66 Posted by: jakee308 at March 19, 2018 07:31 PM (MioLM)

Are you the former post Pepe under a new handle?. I just like to keep commentators straight?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2018 07:36 PM (tpDAe)

67 I would bet $10 that weird gun story is total fiction

Posted by: LASue at March 19, 2018 07:36 PM (Z48ZB)

68 Operation REMOVE TIDEPOD will be simplified greatly if the faggy left keep writing and believing these virtuous fairy tales.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 07:36 PM (fA1SL)

69 About to enter high school. 20 gauge. Should have been no problem. He must have held the butt out several inches from his shoulder, with a loose faggy grip. And his incompetent father let him do it.

Hip shooting a 12 gauge is easy, all you have to do is make sure you're holding on tight. Firing it an inch or two from your shoulder is just plain stupid.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 19, 2018 07:36 PM (IuYIh)

70 >>>Time for you to learn this," he'd said"
[...]
I shouldn't have done that," he said. "I know you didn't want to, but I thought it was something that a man was supposed to do. It wasn't." He smiled. "To tell you the truth, I didn't really want to do that either."

...

the story claims the dad was teaching him how to shoot a gun but the context screams that he was taking his kid into the cornfield so they could practice blowing each other's dicks.

I smell repressed memories.

Posted by: A Guy in the 90s Who Believes Everything is Repressed Memories at March 19, 2018 07:36 PM (8rNrN)

71 Dayam, took the rookie Option. I read the content first.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&& at March 19, 2018 07:36 PM (/HQXN)

72 Reading this while beaming about my 13 year old son beating all the adults in the open class at last weekends turkey shoot by shooting a perfect round.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 19, 2018 07:37 PM (h1jJh)

73 Had no other man to contact, apparently, to ask him for pointers or a two hour bit of coaching.

I took my whole family - my wife, and both boys - to an indoor range that started off with a couple of hours of safety, etc. before any of us were allowed to shoot.

They all loved it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:37 PM (YqDXo)

74 He's probably talking about the time dear old Dad masturbated him to sleep.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 19, 2018 07:37 PM (nBr1j)

75 Breast fed until he was 13.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 19, 2018 07:34 PM (nBr1j)

++++

Like all Albanians.

Posted by: Pedro Carmichael at March 19, 2018 07:37 PM (pvjTE)

76 Fuck Spiderman. He joined with UN cuck Ironman instead of Captain America. If I met him in person he'd get a faceful of black flag bug spray. He deserves to be squished underfoot like all arthropods.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at March 19, 2018 07:37 PM (/qEW2)

77
We refered to the 20 gauge as a ladies gun

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 19, 2018 07:37 PM (lKyWE)

78 When I was knee-high to a grasshopper, my father handed me his 1911, and then he stood well to the side and behind me. After I had ripped off the full magazine, he took the beast from my hands and that was the last time we ever fired weapons together. He told the family, that evening at dinner, that he never wanted me shooting at him. My destiny was set.

Posted by: goon at March 19, 2018 07:37 PM (EaQ6/)

79 Hey, Leitch, which of these is you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jafkVM-jnbE#t=0m32s

Posted by: Biden's Advice at March 19, 2018 07:38 PM (nVNDV)

80 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 19, 2018 07:38 PM (KCxzN)

81 If you subscribe to a newspaper, check the honor roll listings for your local high school. Boys have apparently gotten a lot dumber.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at March 19, 2018 07:38 PM (JyFLk)

82 67 I would bet $10 that weird gun story is total fiction
Posted by: LASue at March 19, 2018 07:36 PM (Z48ZB)

Sounds like it, doesn't it?

What's the betting line that his dad later transitioned?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:38 PM (YqDXo)

83 Aggression is a good thing and learning how to channel it is a sign of maturity.

Five years ago I wanted to start a Boy's Being Boy's weekend class. Learning to use hand tools, measure and make something out of wood or metal.

What killed it. Insurance rates.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 19, 2018 07:38 PM (foQLT)

84 Breast fed until he was 13.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 19, 2018 07:34 PM (nBr1j)

By his father

Posted by: josephistan at March 19, 2018 07:38 PM (ANIFC)

85 59 My dad loved hunting, but the camp was so far away. So all us kids learned fishing. The only drawback of having brothers was I never learned to clean a fish properly because they liked blood and guts. And I never got to go on the two week fishing trips because boys only.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 07:34 PM (G8B7r)

Oh, sweetie, get an ulu and then watch the videos of the Native ladies cleaning salmon. Fastest and easiest way to have perfect fish every time.

I grew up doing it. I'm the one-woman slime line in the family come dipnetting time. It is messy, but it beats standing the freezing river all day.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 07:38 PM (7UW64)

86 I'd give my left nut to know anything about guns.

That must be awesome.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 19, 2018 07:39 PM (fiGNd)

87 This guy's from a whole different planet.

Posted by: Shep Smith at March 19, 2018 07:39 PM (oVJmc)

88 What's with the trend of writing articles revealing yourself to be a giant pussy?

Do you get a free bag of dicks when you sign up for the I am a pussy club?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 19, 2018 07:39 PM (Dp6qK)

89 I always thought the 30-30 was loud and uncomfortable ... until I shot a 30-06, which made the 30-30 seem like nothing.

Posted by: SMOD at March 19, 2018 07:39 PM (e8kgV)

90 88 What's with the trend of writing articles revealing yourself to be a giant pussy?

Do you get a free bag of dicks when you sign up for the I am a pussy club?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 19, 2018 07:39 PM (Dp6qK)

It's like putting a kick me sign on your own back.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 19, 2018 07:40 PM (nBr1j)

91 I'd never seen my father cut wood, he'd never talked about lumbering and I'd never seen an axe in the house. But one day I came home from school, and Dad was home early, waiting for me with that chainsaw. "Time for you to learn this," he'd said.

Posted by: Johann Amadeus Metesky at March 19, 2018 07:40 PM (W8/ca)

92 What did Cuck Jr. mean when he said there was a white flash upon firing?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 19, 2018 07:40 PM (Uv2+Q)

93
the story claims the dad was teaching him how to shoot a gun but the context screams that he was taking his kid into the cornfield so they could practice blowing each other's dicks.

I smell repressed memories.

Posted by: A Guy in the 90s Who Believes Everything is Repressed Memories at March 19, 2018 07:36 PM (8rNrN)

That actually made me lol.

Posted by: LASue at March 19, 2018 07:40 PM (Z48ZB)

94 So in Current Year it's cool to teach teens how to have anal sex -- just in case it ever comes up; you want them to do it *safely* -- but we can't teach boys how to handle a fucking shotgun?

Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 07:40 PM (8rNrN)

95 What do you want to bet this is a made up story.

To reflect what he thinks goes on in the ignorant fly over country. Which of course isn't as masculine as they try to claim they are. (of course they don't claim shit they just do and it shames the liberals.)

I wouldn't trust a reporter or writer that told be the sun comes up in the east.

They make up shit to satisfy their own preconceived notions or to make others believe lies and thus change their perceptions.

This goes for even seeming innocuous writers of fiction. Many of them put their own moral codes in their stories and thus manipulate the young into believing these are good ideals to have. That may have been true many years ago but now too many propagandists with evil intent write books for children and they don't mean well.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 19, 2018 07:40 PM (MioLM)

96 We were both shivering; it was freezing in rural Mattoon, my tiny hometown in southern Illinois, closer to Kentucky than Chicago, but it wasn't just that. Unsteady and unsure of himself, he loaded fuel into the tank and told me to chop down one of the trees next to into one of the endless cornfields that make up whole swathes of this country still, the sort of vast expanse where you can start a power tool and not worry about the noise bothering anyone. I told him I did not want to. He nodded gently and said he knew that but I had to start it anyway. I wanted to make him happy, or least not make him mad, so I held the chainsaw down on the ground with my foot, put my finger on the throttle and, holding my breath and biting my lip so hard that my braces started to crank and ache, pulled the starting cord.

Posted by: Johann Amadeus Metesky at March 19, 2018 07:40 PM (W8/ca)

97 I've got five sons. They can cook, clean, and dance. They know how to talk to girls. They DO talk to girls.
The hunt, fish, and shoot. They know fire and maneuver as well as small unit tactics. They don't bully, they beat the shit out of bullies.

We literally don't give a fuck about this guy.

Posted by: Aquinas Dad at March 19, 2018 07:40 PM (+kRlg)

98 That whole story was made up.

It was fiction.

You can tell because it came out exactly the way it needed to so that his make believe point might seem valid, to idiots.

Posted by: Simplemind at March 19, 2018 07:41 PM (ZuGkg)

99 My mom used to make me go and get her a cigarette, and light it for her, when she was doing the dishes or tge laundry.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 19, 2018 07:41 PM (hMwEB)

100 83 Aggression is a good thing and learning how to channel it is a sign of maturity.

Five years ago I wanted to start a Boy's Being Boy's weekend class. Learning to use hand tools, measure and make something out of wood or metal.

What killed it. Insurance rates.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 19, 2018 07:38 PM (foQLT)

I've taught my sons a bit about DIY. Intrinsically, they'd be perfectly happy for me to take care of everything while they sat inside, but I rousted them out to the garage (or other work site), saying "Someday YOU'RE going to have to do this crap, so pay attention."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:41 PM (YqDXo)

101 >>> I always thought the 30-30 was loud and uncomfortable ... until I shot a 30-06, which made the 30-30 seem like nothing.

it might have been a 30-06 now that you mention it.

There was a 30 involved.

it was big and loud.

Also I think "aught" was used. So thirty aught six? There's no way to say "aught" in 30-30.

Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 07:41 PM (8rNrN)

102 So CheChe got a job with NY Magazine.

Posted by: sounds about right at March 19, 2018 07:42 PM (nVNDV)

103 This soy based twat's son is either going to be history's hardes war hero, or he's going to wear women's skins as dresses.

Anybody watch the movie "Serenity"? The sci fi movie where the Empire like government tried to make everyone docile, which 99% of the people became to the point of lying down and dying. The other 1% went to the extreme of aggression and became space Comanches, basically. That's where I see our society heading now. Boys will not be allowed to channel testosterone in healthy ways and they will do it in horrifying ones.

Posted by: UGAdawg at March 19, 2018 07:42 PM (tRd71)

104 The kickback was so powerful and immediate that it sent the chainsaw flying behind me, but what I most remember was the sound.

Posted by: Johann Amadeus Metesky at March 19, 2018 07:42 PM (W8/ca)

105 Nicely done Ace.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 19, 2018 07:42 PM (MTjB1)

106
What a limp wristed pansy. I'm guessing the guy's kids look like The Paolo

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 07:42 PM (SiINZ)

107 Future history is funny.

Remember when the whole of western civilization was saved by a mild mannered Canadian psych professor who told us to clean our rooms?

Posted by: Jaws at March 19, 2018 07:42 PM (V4FnY)

108 94 So in Current Year it's cool to teach teens how to have anal sex -- just in case it ever comes up; you want them to do it *safely* -- but we can't teach boys how to handle a fucking shotgun?

Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 07:40 PM (8rNrN)

I can guarandamntee you if anyone tries to teach my son about anal sex, they will meet the hot end of my shotgun.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 07:42 PM (7UW64)

109 These are the weak that I've taught my son to dominate.

Posted by: Regular joe at March 19, 2018 07:43 PM (7PllL)

110 So much meow.

Posted by: Corndog at March 19, 2018 07:43 PM (p3eEq)

111
Anybody watch the movie "Serenity"? The sci fi movie where the Empire like government tried to make everyone docile, which 99% of the people became to the point of lying down and dying. The other 1% went to the extreme of aggression and became space Comanches, basically. That's where I see our society heading now. Boys will not be allowed to channel testosterone in healthy ways and they will do it in horrifying ones.
Posted by: UGAdawg at March 19, 2018 07:42 PM (tRd71)

Gormless sissies or Reavers.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 19, 2018 07:43 PM (nBr1j)

112 just need to start calling these folks who fret about white privilege the suicide cultists and perverse cucks they are.

I notice there's a common occurrence to equate all white male hostility, mate guarding, and common sense xenophobia with the end of days (i.e., Handmaidens tale) but at the same time a near blindness to the, well, you know. Enjoy your grooming gangs, no go zones, and FGM.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 07:43 PM (DQC26)

113 I'd never seen my father do any science, but one day I came home and he was waiting in the yard with an electron microscope. "Time you learned to use this," he said.

He went inside and left me to figure it out.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 19, 2018 07:43 PM (Uv2+Q)

114 I guess I was raised by a faggot.

He gave me a BB gun. And then handed me this thing that shot really pissed off pellets. I think he called it a "twenty two".

Guess the old man was just a softie.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 19, 2018 07:43 PM (fiGNd)

115 >Also I think "aught" was used. So thirty aught six? There's no way to say "aught" in 30-30.

Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 07:41 PM (8rNrN)<

Yes, 30-06 is aught.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 19, 2018 07:43 PM (3fxCO)

116 http://bit.ly/2FNkKJc
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PAPER: Political Fight Could Become a Blood Feud Following the Firing of Andrew McCabe

Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 19, 2018 07:43 PM (y3aQB)

117 I taught my boys how to replace a toilet. Tears were streaming down our faces by the end but it's something a man must learn to do.

Posted by: freaked at March 19, 2018 07:43 PM (UdKB7)

118 After the failed gun shooting, dad made me smoke an entire pack of Pall-Malls.

Might as well learn somehow

Posted by: Bruce at March 19, 2018 07:44 PM (8ikIW)

119 When I was nine my father (a company commander in the Marine Corps at the time) took me with him on maneuvers one night that involved a night parachute drop and camping out overnight at Camp Pendleton.

In retrospect, I can't imagine how he was able to do that, but for a nine year-old boy, it was a BLAST.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:44 PM (YqDXo)

120 My dad didn't hunt, either. But he had a rifle, which he used to put down wounded or sick farm animals, and probably for home defense.

I was curious about it, and I remember him showing me how to hold it (don't cock that hip! stand straight!) once.

Never actually shot one until I was in college, though.

Posted by: April at March 19, 2018 07:44 PM (e8PP1)

121 This new york mag writer is correct - under no circumstances should he or anyone known to him or anyone agreeing with him EVER touch a dangerous item like a firearm. It's just not worth it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 07:44 PM (fA1SL)

122 Simply yelling at boys that they must not roughhouse and must instead be well-behaved young girls does no good for anyone.

These days you put them in special ed.

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (rg3uB)

123 William F. "Will" Leitch is a writer
and the founding editor of the Gawker Media sports blog Deadspin.
Leitch is a senior editor at Sports on Earth, a contributing editor at
New York, critic at The New Republic, culture writer for Bloomberg
Politics, contributor to The New York Times, GQ, Fast Company and Slate;

Pff. Yeah.

Posted by: Shep Smith at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (oVJmc)

124 Writer is using skills he discovered writing a college admissions essay given a prompt like "tell us about a time where you really had to learn something about yourself."

These kids/young adults know EXACTLY how to spin a yarn starring their own heroic selves.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (JyFLk)

125 Election Night was harrowing, and, somehow, remains just as much more than a year later. What was supposed to be a midnight glass of Champagne to toast our first woman president and a restful, satisfied night's sleep turned into an evening of terror and fear - a silent, jaw-agape stare at the television until dawn.

This guy is not straight

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (SiINZ)

126 At least I think this is what he said: My ears were still screaming. Neither one of us ever used a chainsaw again.

Posted by: Johann Amadeus Metesky at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (W8/ca)

127 My dad brought a bear's paw back from Canada for me when I was in the early years of basketball, and he nailed it to my hoop, just below the back of the rim. If I wanted to touch it, I had to get up. He knew about motivation. And hunting. And war. He never talked about war, and he never watched documentaries or war movies. He liked musicals and light hearted stuff, not so much comedies where people were being dorks, but non-confrontational stuff. I still have all of his guns in the safe.

Posted by: goon at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (EaQ6/)

128 I'd not post it again, but little flounder is a dead eye with his new rifle, based on our last weekend outing. He also loved chopping wood, burning every thing in sight, and generally running amok in the woods.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (Dp6qK)

129 When I learned to shoot at 8, the 67 riots were going on in Detroit and my parents didn't know if it was going to spread out into the suburbs. The only time I went longer than a few months without going to the range was during my Air Force career. They don't give us weapons very often and live fire was once every year overseas for non combat arms.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (IuYIh)

130 117 I taught my boys how to replace a toilet. Tears were streaming down our faces by the end but it's something a man must learn to do.
Posted by: freaked at March 19, 2018 07:43 PM (UdKB7)

This. Basic plumbing, electrical work, carpentry, etc. were all part of the half-assed curriculum for my sons, depending on what job I had to do.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (YqDXo)

131 Also I think "aught" was used. So thirty aught six? There's no way to say "aught" in 30-30.
Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 07:41 PM (8rNrN)

Are you thinking of a cartoon horse? I dimly remember a space cartoon which had an anthropomorphized horse named "30-30."

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 07:46 PM (OoaOv)

132 And here you have the pansy CNN reporter "shooting" an AR-15 with the liberal general and his full semi-automatic commentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYjjWPvL9j0

Posted by: Timon at March 19, 2018 07:46 PM (NTM5E)

133 William F. "Will" Leitch is a writer
and the founding editor of the Gawker Media sports blog Deadspin.

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Wait, is this the same guy who threatened to fight any of us homos in the octagon?

Posted by: josephistan at March 19, 2018 07:46 PM (ANIFC)

134 Which one of his two dads was this?

Posted by: Shep Smith at March 19, 2018 07:46 PM (oVJmc)

135 Anybody watch the movie "Serenity"? The sci fi movie where the Empire like government tried to make everyone docile, which 99% of the people became to the point of lying down and dying. The other 1% went to the extreme of aggression and became space Comanches, basically. That's where I see our society heading now. Boys will not be allowed to channel testosterone in healthy ways and they will do it in horrifying ones.

Posted by: UGAdawg at March 19, 2018 07:42 PM (tRd71)

Not gonna happen. We still have real boys, and we let them be real boys.

Funny story: my son is in WI right now visiting his buddies from a few years ago. Our neighbor there is the biggest lefty douchebag you could imagine--she dominated her wimpy husband and tries to helicopter her two sons, the elder of whom was my son's bestie.

Well, she tried to keep them from meeting this week, probably because she never approved of us and figures she can force the issue now.

Her boy put the kibosh on that, enlisted the neighbor lady to help, and showed up wearing a pair of cap pistols he had kept hidden from the harpy, asking my son if he wanted to be cops and robbers or cowboys and Indians.

Boys WILL be boys, lefty claptrap notwithstanding.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 07:46 PM (7UW64)

136 The thing is, this is not relevant to any male outside of a certain sphere of men who are the victims of their libtard parent or a victim of their own cuck brain failures leading to self-immolation and xenophilia.

Your kids are in the real world right now. It's not the America I grew up in where there was a spectrum of good kids and bad kids but we're all pretty much in the same boat. It's the America of diversity where your kid has to sit in class with a PROMISE thug...where your kid may have to self-medicate if he gets too rowdy...where a lot of things are fucked up for the normals.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 07:47 PM (DQC26)

137 My dad didn't hunt, he was a veterinarian who did house calls in Detroit. He had a CCW and at least two handguns. He also taught me how to use dangerous power tools.

Posted by: Johann Amadeus Metesky at March 19, 2018 07:47 PM (W8/ca)

138 125 Election Night was harrowing, and, somehow, remains just as much more than a year later. What was supposed to be a midnight glass of Champagne to toast our first woman president and a restful, satisfied night's sleep turned into an evening of terror and fear - a silent, jaw-agape stare at the television until dawn.

This guy is not straight
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (SiINZ)

Nope. He's definitely a shirt-lifter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:47 PM (YqDXo)

139 ...and then he gave me the kneepads and said, "Son, it's time you learned to use these"

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at March 19, 2018 07:47 PM (rg3uB)

140 >128
I'd not post it again, but little flounder is a dead eye with his new
rifle, based on our last weekend outing. He also loved chopping wood,
burning every thing in sight, and generally running amok in the woods.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (Dp6qK)<

I really enjoyed reading your post on this but didn't say so. You did awesome.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 19, 2018 07:47 PM (3fxCO)

141 Simply yelling at boys that they must not roughhouse and must instead be well-behaved young girls does no good for anyone.

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That's what the meds are for, silly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I'm No Longer Selling ARs Until My $300 Ones Will Go For $1000 at March 19, 2018 07:47 PM (JTMqu)

142 Why does this knitter of wits not just acknowledge he went shooting with his father, neither of them enjoyed the experience. Others apparently did--end of story.
I mean Haiku is probable not long enough, but he could extend the article by talking about his first experience with butt sex.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 19, 2018 07:47 PM (nBr1j)

143 My most recent thrill was firing a fully auto Tec 9, suppressed.
I have a friend who is a detective on a local PD, it was with his invitation.
Once was enough.

Posted by: navybrat at March 19, 2018 07:48 PM (w7KSn)

144 This guy is not straight
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (SiINZ)

Straight or not, he's an appalling bimbo

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2018 07:48 PM (tpDAe)

145 101
Also I think "aught" was used. So thirty aught six? There's no way to say "aught" in 30-30.
Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 07:41 PM (8rNrN)

Unless you pronounce it "three-aught-three-aught", which nobody does.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

146 I just shit on Insomniac's car.

Posted by: A Dove at March 19, 2018 07:48 PM (gC2IV)

147 This. Basic plumbing, electrical work, carpentry, etc. were all part of the half-assed curriculum for my sons, depending on what job I had to do.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (YqDXo)

I never learned much in these areas. I can use basic tools and such but don't have a lot of know-how.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 07:48 PM (NWiLs)

148 My dad used to make me fight bears. I can't help but think this toxic culture of bear-fighting somehow partly caused Hillary Clinton to lose Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 07:48 PM (8rNrN)

149 Toxic Genderism.

From trying to make boys act like girls, to transgenderism taught to kindergarteners, to the 57 gender brigade, to "self-identifying as a woman with menstraul cramps" who the UK send out Mammogram notices to, it is all toxic.

And not just to boys, but also to girls. Girls have been taught and told to act like men sexually, and it has totally screwed them up, bcz they are not wired that way.

All this manufactured gender crap is toxic. All of it. And men are promoting it as well as women.

So, I'm going with Toxic Genderism to encompass the whole kit and kaboodle.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at March 19, 2018 07:49 PM (MtNHs)

150 I'm sick and tired of hearing about white privilege. When a black basketball player can commit felonies and confess to them, and absolutely nothing happens to him, the privilege ain't on the white side.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 19, 2018 07:49 PM (l9m7l)

151 William F. "Will" Leitch is a writer and the founding editor of the Gawker Media sports blog Deadspin. Leitch is a senior editor at Sports on Earth, a contributing editor at New York, critic at The New Republic, culture writer for Bloomberg
Politics, contributor to The New York Times, GQ, Fast Company and Slate;

the Deadspin clown. I thought the name look familiar. I never could stand Deadspin especially that smug, lefty twat of a Cardinals fan

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 07:49 PM (SiINZ)

152 138 125 Election Night was harrowing, and, somehow, remains just as much more than a year later. What was supposed to be a midnight glass of Champagne to toast our first woman president and a restful, satisfied night's sleep turned into an evening of terror and fear - a silent, jaw-agape stare at the television until dawn.

Missed this the first time around but FFS. He thought a midnight patrol would force a gun into his dainty little hands?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 19, 2018 07:49 PM (nBr1j)

153
The frightening Trump supporting plummer story still has this pussy beat

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 19, 2018 07:49 PM (lKyWE)

154 146 I just shit on Insomniac's car.
Posted by: A Dove at March 19, 2018 07:48 PM (gC2IV)

How the hell did you get into the garage?

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 07:49 PM (NWiLs)

155 My brother , G-d rest his soul taught me two things. One how to shoot so I didn't always have to clean all the doves and quail and how to swim. He threw me in the pool and said "SWIM". I dog paddled like a MF'er.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 19, 2018 07:49 PM (foQLT)

156 His next article is going to be about how he breast-fed until he was 8 and how this helped him understand the sacrificial nature of maternal love.

Posted by: Caliban at March 19, 2018 07:49 PM (QE8X6)

157 122 Simply yelling at boys that they must not roughhouse and must instead be well-behaved young girls does no good for anyone.

These days you put them in special ed.

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (rg3uB)

++++

Psychotropic drugs. Sure, they will turn a few into mass murderers, but the drugs work most of the time.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 19, 2018 07:50 PM (pvjTE)

158 You know ... I haven't had the kids fire a Ma Deuce yet.

I feel like such a cuck.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 19, 2018 07:50 PM (fiGNd)

159 This guy, pointed out by Christopher Taylor, writes about his own experiences of his pussy dad trying to de-pussify him as a child and failing like a big pussy.

That there is a funneh line, Mr. O'Spades. I lurfed.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 19, 2018 07:50 PM (Tyii7)

160 117 I taught my boys how to replace a toilet. Tears were streaming down our faces by the end but it's something a man must learn to do.

Posted by: freaked at March 19, 2018 07:43 PM (UdKB7)

You forgot to stop up the drain with a rag, didn't you.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 07:50 PM (7UW64)

161 No better gun to shoot dove and quail with.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
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Agreed. My 20 ga. Fox side-by-side, Improved and Modified, 26" was the perfect bird gun for me. Certainly from the age of twelve up through my teens. Collected my first deer with it also.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 19, 2018 07:50 PM (FJXGr)

162 These are the type of kids that grow up to be tripwire bomb builders.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 19, 2018 07:50 PM (r9UYA)

163 My dad tried to teach me how to use a mitre box. I found the phallic saw's movement through the vaginal mitre box problematic. We both had a good cry and then blew each other. #ImWithHer

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 07:51 PM (8rNrN)

164 Posted by: Johann Amadeus Metesky at March 19, 2018 07:40 PM (W8/ca)

Hahaha, this is good. Keep going! LOL

Posted by: April at March 19, 2018 07:51 PM (e8PP1)

165 son speaking to a friend: "Cant' do it, I've got to help put a roof on the house."

son's friend in reply: "What kind of people are you? No one does their own roofing."

I was proud of my son's at that moment.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 19, 2018 07:51 PM (GOoUs)

166 152 138 125 Election Night was harrowing, and, somehow, remains just as much more than a year later. What was supposed to be a midnight glass of Champagne to toast our first woman president and a restful, satisfied night's sleep turned into an evening of terror and fear - a silent, jaw-agape stare at the television until dawn.

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I call this the "dear santa claus" liberal letter where some angel is supposed to feel their pain and come in and tell them they are a good boy. For fuck's sake. You realize that the DNC's base is composed of minorities who are quite, ah.... masculine in their outliook.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 07:51 PM (DQC26)

167 Shorter ace:

"Ya ya, Homo!!!!"

*inflicts atomic wedgie on poofda*

Posted by: Sharkman at March 19, 2018 07:51 PM (dDMQ9)

168 I never learned much in these areas. I can use basic tools and such but don't have a lot of know-how.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 07:48 PM (NWiLs)

I just picked it up as I went along. Basic physics actually goes a pretty long way, especially in electrical work.

After that, I worked with a handyman for a year on my parents' house, which had 40 years of deferred maintenance, and I learned an enormous amount working with him.

One thing I'd recommend: a Home Depot book entitled "Codes for Homeowner's" or some such. VERY useful to make sure you do things right, especially again in electrical work.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:51 PM (YqDXo)

169 If masculinity was toxic, fatherless children would do better in life.

That's objectively not true.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 19, 2018 07:51 PM (wB8Tg)

170 i remember my first kickback.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2018 07:52 PM (N0sw0)

171 >158
You know ... I haven't had the kids fire a Ma Deuce yet.

I feel like such a cuck.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 19, 2018 07:50 PM (fiGNd)<

You have a Ma Deuce? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 19, 2018 07:52 PM (3fxCO)

172 The other part of the Man Card Skill set I miss is working on my own car.
Very little I can do now. Maybe change out the air filter or a battery.
I CAN turn off an engine warning light tho'

Posted by: navybrat at March 19, 2018 07:52 PM (w7KSn)

173 170 i remember my first kickback.
Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2018 07:52 PM (N0sw0)

What office did you get elected to?

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 07:52 PM (NWiLs)

174 You have a Ma Deuce? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 19, 2018 07:52 PM (3fxCO)

Since you asked ... yeah.

But Damn It ... I made vows. I'll stick with 'em.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 19, 2018 07:53 PM (fiGNd)

175 What was supposed to be a midnight glass of Champagne to toast our first woman president

Champagne? Champagne??

Men drink Scotch, or bourbon. Drinking wine spritzers or melted popsicle drinks is a dead giveaway.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:53 PM (YqDXo)

176 My family never owned a gun. My first husband was a hunter so that's when I learned how to shoot. At least he was good for something. Hubby #2 and I never owned a gun until Obama was elected.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 19, 2018 07:53 PM (dUJdY)

177 163 My dad tried to teach me how to use a mitre box. I found the phallic saw's movement through the vaginal mitre box problematic. We both had a good cry and then blew each other. #ImWithHer

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it's so sad to see blatant homophobia being employed in an attempt at humor when, in europe, nationalism is on the rise while in america trump every day brings us closer to the handmaidens tale. How come every person I choose to criticize doesn't realize that they're mean poopypants who should bow down to how much of a teacher's pet I am.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 07:53 PM (DQC26)

178 It's no wonder this blog has gone so soft! The guy fought bears, while he had his clothes on! Big deal!
Fighting a naked bear, or fighting a bear naked is what separates the wheat from the chaff!

Posted by: goon at March 19, 2018 07:53 PM (EaQ6/)

179 127. You a 'black tape on the instrument panel' or a 'disconnect the battery and wait a while'?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 07:53 PM (fA1SL)

180 One thing I'd recommend: a Home Depot book entitled "Codes for Homeowner's" or some such. VERY useful to make sure you do things right, especially again in electrical work.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:51 PM (YqDXo)

Sounds useful, thanks. It would be helpful to have somebody to learn stuff like that from.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 07:53 PM (NWiLs)

181 oops.. sorry

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 19, 2018 07:53 PM (dUJdY)

182 The guy who wrote the rebuttal is a moron. Short version: You'll get in a world of trouble if you ever bully someone, but you'll be in more if I hear you didn't stand up to a bully.

Similar to our house rules: Never let me hear you started a fight, but you'll get twice as much punishment if I find out you didn't fight back.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I'm No Longer Selling ARs Until My $300 Ones Will Go For $1000 at March 19, 2018 07:53 PM (JTMqu)

183 This guy is not straight
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 07:45 PM (SiINZ)

Nope. He's definitely a shirt-lifter.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:47 PM (YqDXo)

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OK, I think I figured out where the white flash thing came from.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 19, 2018 07:54 PM (Uv2+Q)

184 154 146 I just shit on Insomniac's car.
Posted by: A Dove at March 19, 2018 07:48 PM (gC2IV)

How the hell did you get into the garage?
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 07:49 PM (NWiLs)

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Key under the door mat. I just ate dinner at the dumpster about back of the chipotle. Watch your step in the morning.

Posted by: A Dove at March 19, 2018 07:54 PM (gC2IV)

185 we need to start criticizing toxic cuckoldry

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 07:54 PM (DQC26)

186 we need to start criticizing toxic nagging

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 07:54 PM (DQC26)

187 Cruz's brother was arrested for trespassing on Parkland HS property today.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 19, 2018 07:54 PM (r9UYA)

188 >Posted by: ScoggDog at March 19, 2018 07:53 PM (fiGNd)<

Is it easy to get ammo?

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 19, 2018 07:54 PM (3fxCO)

189 This guy, pointed out by Christopher Taylor, writes about his own experiences of his pussy dad trying to de-pussify him as a child and failing like a big pussy.
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Well, to be fair to the father, he probably had only read an ebook about the topic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 19, 2018 07:54 PM (w1zJX)

190 Was it a shotgun or a rifle? The cuck doesn't seem to know the difference. And honestly I can fire a 20ga one-handed. I'm guessing his girl wrists just weren't up to the task.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 19, 2018 07:54 PM (yQpMk)

191 we need to start criticizing toxic immigration and victim 'splaining.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 07:54 PM (DQC26)

192 Gun story sounds beta\beta over cuck fantasy.

Posted by: PhilDirt at March 19, 2018 07:55 PM (FsI7w)

193 Still trying to figure the JOO angle.

Posted by: Trayvon WHITE (D) DC at March 19, 2018 07:55 PM (48QDY)

194 Damn. The way this is headed my grandson is going to get a lot of nookie.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 19, 2018 07:55 PM (0tfLf)

195 Manufactured Genderism works too.

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at March 19, 2018 07:55 PM (MtNHs)

196 Key under the door mat. I just ate dinner at the dumpster about back of the chipotle. Watch your step in the morning.
Posted by: A Dove at March 19, 2018 07:54 PM (gC2IV)

You nasty little bastard.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 07:55 PM (NWiLs)

197 I learned everything that I know about shelving right here at the Ace of Spades!

Posted by: goon at March 19, 2018 07:55 PM (EaQ6/)

198 Is it easy to get ammo?

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 19, 2018 07:54 PM (3fxCO)

For Ma' Deuce ?

Don't have to. She makes up her own.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 19, 2018 07:55 PM (fiGNd)

199 My dad decided I needed some butching up and tried to teach me how to make balloon animals, to give me a running start for clown college. I tried to make a balloon deer but then I realized I was oppressing the feminine softness of the balloon by raping them into unaccustomed shapes. I was so horrified that I began cutting myself and I shaved half my head and died the other half pink and started listening to The Cure.

I never did go to clown college, but I'm thankful for that -- clown colleges are riotous cancers of toxic masculinity and rape by big floppy shoe.

In the end, I think my dad taught me the right lesson, in the end. Oh, and he used to fuck me.

#Hillary2020

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 07:55 PM (8rNrN)

200 Mattoon is very famous in Illinois for being that place where you turn around when you go the wrong way from the Charleston exit.

Mattoon is the hick little brother to Decatur, the armpit (and per-capita welfare King) of Illinois.

I'm guessing the author didn't grow up in Mattoon, but a few miles down the road in Gays, and is too embarrassed to admit it.

Posted by: IncredibleCO at March 19, 2018 07:55 PM (u+kHZ)

201 172 The other part of the Man Card Skill set I miss is working on my own car.
Very little I can do now. Maybe change out the air filter or a battery.
I CAN turn off an engine warning light tho'
Posted by: navybrat at March 19, 2018 07:52 PM (w7KSn)

With everything computerized now, there's really little you can do on your own. I bought an OBD scanner, and have tracked down a parasitic drain on a battery, but there's so little you can do now. My mechanic said he laughs when he sees people raise the hood on broken down cars, saying there's practically nothing HE could do without his electronic instruments.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:55 PM (YqDXo)

202 Also, "woke story time" always sounds like someone wrote a comedy radio skit and the script accidentally ended up in the pile for a horror radio show.

Also squared, zero sum thinking is lazy thinking. If I work hard, save up and build a house... that's not stealing a house from a shrimp herder in Suriname.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 19, 2018 07:56 PM (wB8Tg)

203 TL;DR
Hope no one else has posted this yet

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

~ Robert A. Heinlein

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at March 19, 2018 07:56 PM (n9EOP)

204 >>>197 I learned everything that I know about shelving right here at the Ace of Spades!

You know what?

So did I, friend. So did I.

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 07:56 PM (8rNrN)

205 This guy...this is not my kind of guy.

Posted by: Frank Costanza at March 19, 2018 07:56 PM (OOzR/)

206 The day of the election, my wife took my son with her to work. They were both wearing their "I Voted" stickers, and a gay man my wife works with, celebrating, asked William who he voted for. William smiled and yelled, "Hillary!" and the man started crying and William frowned and tried to cheer him up before he realized he wasn't actually sad.

Daddy taught his son how to cheer gay men up by blowing them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 07:56 PM (SiINZ)

207 The gun story was obviously fake. I mean it's like it's written in neon: FAKE!

Posted by: Max Power at March 19, 2018 07:56 PM (q177U)

208 Ah yes, the kickback.

Shot a moose, standing in a swamp (where else you gonna find a moose to shoot, legally that is?), with the big rifle (dad's, natch). Ended up flat on my back in the muskeg, with the goo soaking up through all of the layers of clothes, but I got the damned moose.

Dad explained that I would warm up once I was up to my elbows in moose guts.

Probably a good thing that he eventually produce a son.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 07:57 PM (7UW64)

209 94 So in Current Year it's cool to teach teens how to have anal sex -- just in case it ever comes up; you want them to do it *safely* -- but we can't teach boys how to handle a fucking shotgun?

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the left loves to use the anti-first amendment evasion that "You're scaring me with toxic manliness and therefore I'm skeered because your words imply violence" that, for most people, are too lazy to counter

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 07:57 PM (DQC26)

210 i remember my first kickback.

So do I.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 19, 2018 07:57 PM (yQpMk)

211 >>>quail

tasty
they have the teeniest wishbone to play the wish game with too.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2018 07:57 PM (N0sw0)

212 Key under the door mat. I just ate dinner at the dumpster about back of the chipotle. Watch your step in the morning.
Posted by: A Dove at March 19, 2018 07:54 PM (gC2IV)

So you put down a deposit on a new car?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:57 PM (YqDXo)

213 So this dad loaded up a shotgun and handed it to his kid. He didn't fire it first to see if it had much kickback? He didn't show the kid how to hold it? He just loaded it up and went "here, pull the trigger."

Quite frankly I call bullshit and this guy never had his dad try to show him how to shoot a gun.

Posted by: buzzion at March 19, 2018 07:57 PM (lKs2v)

214 With everything computerized now, there's really little you can do on your own. I bought an OBD scanner, and have tracked down a parasitic drain on a battery, but there's so little you can do now. My mechanic said he laughs when he sees people raise the hood on broken down cars, saying there's practically nothing HE could do without his electronic instruments.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:55 PM (YqDXo)

What's amazing to me is to look under the good of a modern car, and compare to what's under the hood of a "classic" car and note how much empty space there used to be.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 07:58 PM (NWiLs)

215
Wrestling? My older brothers just beat me up.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 19, 2018 07:58 PM (r+sAi)

216 the left loves to use the anti-first amendment evasion that "You're scaring me with toxic manliness and therefore I'm skeered because your words imply violence"

They're scared? This is where you channel Mel Gibson.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:58 PM (YqDXo)

217 The other part of the Man Card Skill set I miss is working on my own car.

Very little I can do now. Maybe change out the air filter or a battery.

I CAN turn off an engine warning light tho'

Posted by: navybrat at March 19, 2018 07:52 PM (w7KSn)

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I sold a car recently and the 30-ish year old man who bought it was amazed that I had changed the valve cover gasket. His exact words = "You're a mechanic?"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I'm No Longer Selling ARs Until My $300 Ones Will Go For $1000 at March 19, 2018 07:58 PM (JTMqu)

218 I was only 14 the first time I ever cheated a hooker out of her money. I still have that dollar.

Posted by: goon at March 19, 2018 07:58 PM (EaQ6/)

219 There was a time that some felt Georgia, with its increasingly well-educated and ethnic population, could end up in Hillary Clinton's column. That lunch, only about 13 hours earlier, felt like it had taken place decades ago. The world felt different, scarier...meaner.

This guy is gayer than a Liberace pajama party

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 07:58 PM (SiINZ)

220 Wisconsin alone issues ~600,000 deer permits per year. And plenty of gun owners don't hunt deer every year. There is still hope for America ... and fake stories ending with "with kissed a long slow kiss, and neither of us ever shot a gun again" ... just leftists trying to normalize the feminization of Boys.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 19, 2018 07:58 PM (bT8Z4)

221 The other part of the Man Card Skill set I miss is working on my own car.
Very little I can do now. Maybe change out the air filter or a battery.
I CAN turn off an engine warning light tho'
Posted by: navybrat
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Man up! Ignore it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 19, 2018 07:58 PM (w1zJX)

222 "Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar"

You didn't mention anything about plumbing.

Posted by: freaked at March 19, 2018 07:58 PM (UdKB7)

223 Fighting a naked bear, or fighting a bear naked is what separates the wheat from the chaff!

It is possible that you didn't come to the bear for fighting.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 19, 2018 07:59 PM (fuK7c)

224 @26 Pixy Misa

Was going to post the same thing. I pulled a reverse-Breitbart and read the article, then the comments. Mea culpa. Glad you caught it. What a maroon.

Posted by: IncredibleCO at March 19, 2018 07:59 PM (u+kHZ)

225 My dad who I still have issues with and hated had me firing Tide Pods out of my arse at age nine. *sob*

Posted by: Trigglypuff at March 19, 2018 07:59 PM (Tyii7)

226 Whoever that first guy is, well he's an idiot. Obviously. Nearly every sentence he writes is incorrect, or baseless, or stupid, or a combo of all those.

Don't believe I have ever commented on one of these sorts of posts - the whole masculinity SJW thing.

But guys like that writer - they have nothing to share, nothing to say that's more useful than the last string of words that the homeless guy in front of the library just burbled. Can I presume he writes for others as alien, unworldly, dim, and clueless as he is? Who else would read such nonsense?

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at March 19, 2018 07:59 PM (knKQ1)

227 Quail is something you should do, not something you should hunt.

My dad taught me that. He also taught me how to keep eye contact during a blowjob.

PS Trump's a racist and Hillary is the real president.

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 08:00 PM (8rNrN)

228 Paul Ryan's $1.3 Trillion Spending Bill Funds Planned Parenthood, Sanctuary Cities -- Won't Fund Trump Wall
-GP

Paul Ryan probably felt the kickback when he was a young boy.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 19, 2018 08:00 PM (r9UYA)

229 There was a time that some felt Georgia, with its increasingly well-educated and ethnic population, could end up in Hillary Clinton's column. That lunch, only about 13 hours earlier, felt like it had taken place decades ago. The world felt different, scarier...meaner.

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translation
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some felt that mass immigration into the hinterlands would lead to more hillary voters. Enough? Who knew but all I know is that any 3rd world welfare recipient is better than nearly any white american.

we need to end toxic immigration

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:00 PM (DQC26)

230 Car troubleshooting tip -

Buy a $30 Bluetooth OBD adapter off Amazon.

Download a good gauge-reader app like Torque.

Scour internet bulletin boards.

You can sort out a ton of problems this way.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at March 19, 2018 08:00 PM (JyFLk)

231 Any vehicle is massively more powerful and dangerous than a gun.

Posted by: DaveA at March 19, 2018 08:00 PM (FhXTo)

232 You didn't mention anything about plumbing.

Wait ... is this a Crying Game kind of thing?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 19, 2018 08:00 PM (yQpMk)

233 My Dad mostly worked with me on cars and around the house stuff. Same thing with my grandfathers. My grandfather on my Mom's side quit rabbit hunting after my Mom, as a girl, gave him the big sad eyes and asked him how he could kill the cute bunnies.

I have his shotgun. Huge 12 Ga with an entirely too long barrel and one of those variable chokes. That has a bit of a kick.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 08:00 PM (OoaOv)

234 When a lefty cries zero-sum-game, I quit listening. There are very few zero-sum-games in life.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at March 19, 2018 08:01 PM (T71PA)

235 Paul Ryan's $1.3 Trillion Spending Bill Funds Planned Parenthood, Sanctuary Cities -- Won't Fund Trump Wall

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what the ever living fuck?

Trump should veto this shit and make them start over

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:01 PM (DQC26)

236
Having an OBD is great. It at least points you to the problem, so a shady mechanic doesn't try to tell you your reball buffer came off your johnson rod.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 19, 2018 08:01 PM (r+sAi)

237
I sold a car recently and the 30-ish year old man who bought it was amazed that I had changed the valve cover gasket. His exact words = "You're a mechanic?"
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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I helped a young couple bump-start their car. The guy, a 20-something looked at me gaping and said, "Are you God?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 19, 2018 08:01 PM (9tO1t)

238 I just read the rest of that story. What an unbelievably feminine pussy. But he does tell everyone how "brilliant" his son is...Most likely bullshit as well. His kid is probably the window licking paste eater who still shits himself in kindergarten.

Posted by: Timon at March 19, 2018 08:01 PM (NTM5E)

239 Will Leitch would probably faint at the atmosphere at my parents' house yesterday. Boys wrestling, fighting, arguing about guns and being protective of Pookette. A fairly normal gathering, and this time no one went to the ER! Success!

Posted by: pookysgirl at March 19, 2018 08:02 PM (XKZwp)

240 >>>Wrestling? My older brothers just beat me up.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

Then you learned an even more important lesson: that all effort is folly and life is a series of failure culminating in the failure to even remain alive.

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 08:02 PM (8rNrN)

241 226. His intended audience need to learn and strive to emulate his example. Let them never learn to fight, to operate a weapon, to change a tire, etc.
All that empty brain space can be devoted to subsistence agricultural toil and lore.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:02 PM (fA1SL)

242 as I read somewhere, "you and your community may not personally embody toxic masculinity but your conquerors will. But hey, at least you can write a liberal santa letter asking for a cookie because you weren't xenophobic about it"

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:02 PM (DQC26)

243 With everything computerized now, there's really little you can do on your own.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 07:55 PM (YqDXo)

I always scratch my head at this. There' some generational line where this thinking occurs.

Because while, yes, you need a few more tools, most brand new cars can be worked on like older ones. You change plugs or coils or timing belts, people customize them with new pistons to change the compression or cams, as applicable.

Heck, as long as the electronics are *working* properly, it's even easier to find problems.

Mind you, if you can afford it, it's even easier to have someone else do it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 19, 2018 08:02 PM (wB8Tg)

244 Also, on my car. I have changed the oil- I wanted to try to put mobile one in it when I first got it (the previous car I always did it myself.) However, it is such a pain to change the oil filter, it is worth the money to have someone else do it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 08:02 PM (OoaOv)

245 This Ace in Confessional Mode dude had one fucked-up childhood.

Kind of shit that could drive a cat into a Valu-Rite Binge before snuffing a Hobo.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 19, 2018 08:02 PM (fiGNd)

246 Doesn't "bear" refer to a hirsute homosexual?

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 19, 2018 08:02 PM (hMwEB)

247 227 Quail is something you should do, not something you should hunt.

My dad taught me that. He also taught me how to keep eye contact during a blowjob.

PS Trump's a racist and Hillary is the real president.
Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 08:00 PM (8rNrN)

Yeah, don't want the guy you're giving it to to think you feel shame about doing it.

Posted by: buzzion at March 19, 2018 08:03 PM (lKs2v)

248 Man up! Ignore it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 19, 2018 07:58 PM (w1zJX)

I thought that was what electrical tape was for. To cover the light. So it doesn't pester you so much.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 08:03 PM (7UW64)

249 There was a time that some felt Georgia, with its increasingly well-educated and ethnic population

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Notice the "and" there.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I'm No Longer Selling ARs Until My $300 Ones Will Go For $1000 at March 19, 2018 08:03 PM (JTMqu)

250 228 Paul Ryan's $1.3 Trillion Spending Bill Funds Planned Parenthood, Sanctuary Cities -- Won't Fund Trump Wall
-GP

Posted by: Under Fire at March 19, 2018 08:00 PM (r9UYA)

And you wonder why I keep saying that the Republicans are going to throw the midterms?

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 08:03 PM (sdi6R)

251 Wait, is this the same guy who threatened to fight any of us homos in the octagon?

Tim Marchman was the guy who would fight any one of us faggots in The Octagon. He then ran like a little girl when a UFC guy called him out.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 19, 2018 08:03 PM (O5Q3r)

252
Yes, this country was set up for "dudes like you" - low-T, mangina-sporting amorphic THINGS. Key-riced, the fact that you chose to write "dudes" over "men" is as blatant a tell as can be.

Thanks in part to more enlightened attitudes about gender and parenting, it is hard not to see male entitlement and aggression as toxic forces degrading our culture.

Fuck off and die, already.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 19, 2018 08:04 PM (pNxlR)

253
Having an OBD is great. It at least points you to the problem, so a shady mechanic doesn't try to tell you your reball buffer came off your johnson rod.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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Phalange valve.

Posted by: Phoebe Buffay at March 19, 2018 08:04 PM (9tO1t)

254 Very proud of my niece last week. She is 14 and said " I am not signing their petition or participating in the walkout" It doesn't have anything to do with guns.

She recently expressed her interest in going quail hunting. She goes on fishing trips with me and does other outdoor trips with me.

I don't have children, she is like my daughter

Posted by: The Jackhole Somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 19, 2018 08:04 PM (M+Lyo)

255 The first gun I fired was a 16 gauge over and under of Father Hate's. We went to a gravel pit where he set an empty beer can on something, maybe a stump, and told me to aim at it from about 40 yards away, hold it very tight against my shoulder, have my weight leaning forward and squeeze the trigger gently. I felt like a truck hit me but not nearly as bad as that can took it. I just needed one shot that day to understand the forces that I was dealing with and how they weren't to be fucked around with. Father H was adamant about using shotguns for that type of shooting because if you missed badly, nobody beyond 100 yards was in much trouble.

Not long after that went to a turkey shoot where they used a 12 gauge Remington automatic. Piece of cake; I could've shot that all afternoon. Used to shoot trap with a 20 gauge pump that was likewise easy on the shoulder.

It's incomprehensible to me that learning that way wouldn't give a person a healthy respect for firearms but some of my goofball acquaintances were just fucking idiots; nature or nurture, who knows, they just were.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 19, 2018 08:04 PM (y7DUB)

256 Yeah, don't want the guy you're giving it to to think you feel shame about doing it.
----
see this is the problem, the shame's the best part

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:04 PM (DQC26)

257 "Can you be nice? Do you promise?" William popped the rest of a banana in his mouth, mumbled "sure!" and grabbed his book bag. Then we watched him bound into his school, my blond beautiful son with his nice clothes and devil-may-care attitude, happy, unaware, confident - bounding like the world was owed to him. I looked at my wife. We were both shivering.

The Paolo: The Paolo will warm up your wife so she won't be shivering any more. Quivering, yes, but shivering - no.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 08:05 PM (SiINZ)

258 240 >>>Wrestling? My older brothers just beat me up.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

Then you learned an even more important lesson: that all effort is folly and life is a series of failure culminating in the failure to even remain alive.

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 08:02 PM (8rNrN)

At least he didn't have to eat Kaboom to learn that lesson.

Posted by: buzzion at March 19, 2018 08:05 PM (lKs2v)

259 CONFESSION BOOTH

I've never fired a gun. It's even more extreme than that, I've never even touched a gun. Not once, ever, in my whole life.

But I've been on the other end of the barrel: On four separate instances, I've had guns pointed at me -- loaded guns pointed at me in malice, ready to fire.

The first time was when my sister's boyfriend -- a sleazeball drug-dealer -- went into a paranoid meltdown when he was withdrawing from meth and couldn't find where he had stashed a wad of bills. He became convinced that someone had stolen it from him. And I just happened to be the person standing there, visiting my sister (who lived with him). In a raving frenzy, he took out a huge revolver (a .45 or .44 I assume), pointed it at me, cocked it, and said I had 30 seconds to tell him where I had hidden his stash, or he'd blow me away. He was sweating profusely and ranting incoherently.

Luckily, my sister distracted him momentarily and I was able to quickly climb out the window (which was on the ground floor) and escape, running all the way home. (I was 13 years old at the time.)

The second time was in college: I was walking through campus at night with a friend, and a group of terrifying gangbangers emerged from the shadows and pointed a gun (a Glock, I now realize in retrospect) at us, and demanded our cash. I foolishly hemmed and hawed as I tried not to pee myself in fear, and they become more insistent, threaten to kill us if we did not comply.

By sheer chance, a large group of laughing students came up the path behind us at that exact moment, which spooked the gangbangers who instantly ran off back into the shadows.

The third time was at my aunt's house: My dad and my aunt's husband had gotten into a furious argument about my granddad's will and inheritance. My aunt's husband (we called him "uncle," but he was just one of her several husbands over the years), pulled out a rifle and pointed it at my dad and told him to get out of the house and never return. As my dad gathered up us kids to leave, my "uncle" then pointed the rifle at all of os and escorted us to the car.

The fourth (and hopefully final) time was at a political protest in Denver at the 2008 Democratic convention; I stupidly went along on a rampage by some anarchists, just to document it, which quickly got out of control and much more violent than I had anticipated. Cops on horseback cornered the whole mob at either end of a city block, and corralled us into a small area; as they ushered us into a "holding pen" type zone, various cops had their weapons drawn and pointed at us, including me.

Yeah, I hope to never repeat any of those experiences ever again.

Posted by: zombie at March 19, 2018 08:05 PM (42M22)

260 239 Will Leitch would probably faint at the atmosphere at my parents' house yesterday. Boys wrestling, fighting, arguing about guns and being protective of Pookette. A fairly normal gathering, and this time no one went to the ER! Success!

Posted by: pookysgirl at March 19, 2018 08:02 PM (XKZwp)

Yeah, I can still hear my aunt saying, ever so mildly, "Now boys, don't fight." as they crashed through the kitchen in half-nelson mode and flew out the back door.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 08:05 PM (7UW64)

261 >>>Johann Amadeus Metesky

i don't know who this is, but he's funny

Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2018 08:06 PM (N0sw0)

262 btw, for real, my brother and I used to fight, and not in a good, productive way.

I would win for a while (I was older). But my winning taught my brother something important: At the beginning of the fight, he would just flop back on a bed, couch, or the floor, and begin kicking at me with his legs.

This is a little like the tactic that judo master used in his fight against Ali.

Point is, there was no way in hell to get past his legs (which were pretty strong, stronger than his upper body and mine as well), and he taught me the lesson that there's a way to beat any bully.

Damn, his fucking leg defense was impregnable. It used to make me so angry.

I was watching this guy explain the basics of BJJ to Joe Rogan and he said there were four main parts of BJJ. 1, take him to the floor to reduce his explosive power and make the fight more predictable. 2. Fight past his legs to take the powerful legs out of the equation and again make the fight more predictable.

I won't go into 3 and 4. Point is, my damn brother figured out that leg defense and I never figured out 2, how to get past the legs to start working on pins and submissions.

Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 08:06 PM (8rNrN)

263 Car troubleshooting tip -

Buy a $30 Bluetooth OBD adapter off Amazon.

Download a good gauge-reader app like Torque.

Scour internet bulletin boards.

You can sort out a ton of problems this way.

I preferred the old days when it was "hit it with a hammer and see if that helps".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 19, 2018 08:06 PM (fuK7c)

264 My old man had a National Guard company when I was a sprout . I used to go to the armory with him on some duty weekends . It was fuckin glorious . Surrounded by dangerous men and machines and yet I was as safe as could be . Like having a hundred uncles . Then he went on active duty . Ft Riley . Me a nine yr. old boy . Gave my mom a nervous breakdown but I loved it .
I grew up on a different planet than these "men".
They 're from the fucking moon .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 19, 2018 08:07 PM (vbqhl)

265 Ain't we a pair, Faggoty Man.

Posted by: Aunty Entity at March 19, 2018 08:07 PM (0ogQG)

266 Paul Ryan's $1.3 Trillion Spending Bill Funds Planned Parenthood, Sanctuary Cities -- Won't Fund Trump Wall
-GP

Paul Ryan probably felt the kickback when he was a young boy.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 19, 2018 08:00 PM (r9UYA)

Who needs a Democrat Party when we've got winners like this?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 08:07 PM (SiINZ)

267 Ace in confessional mode made me laugh, in the end.

kids say the darndest things, in confessionals.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 19, 2018 08:07 PM (bT8Z4)

268 Not if you are as bad a shot as me. 12 gauge is my only hope.

A hunting buddy brought along his grandpa's 10 Ga. long tom once. 36" barrel length, single shot.

It was like firing a shoulder-mounted cannon. My first bruise from shooting.

It would just vaporize a bird.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 19, 2018 08:07 PM (GdWl+)

269 Neither you nor your dad are fooling anyone, Will...

Posted by: Adam Rippon at March 19, 2018 08:07 PM (7R/qA)

270 Yeah, I hope to never repeat any of those experiences ever again.
Posted by: zombie at March 19, 2018 08:05 PM (42M22)

Isn't Weasel the Horde firearms dealer/showman/instructor? We need zombie to take a trip to the east coast and pick up some goodies before returning to the insanity of California.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 08:07 PM (OoaOv)

271 Yeah, I hope to never repeat any of those experiences ever again.

Posted by: zombie at March 19, 2018 08:05 PM (42M22)

Get your little tiny butt outta SF and hit the range, darlin'.

You won't have to experience any of it any more, I promise.

There will still be assholes out there, but you will be prepared.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 08:07 PM (7UW64)

272 I've seen some mma fighters just dive bomb past the legs to smash the guy in the face.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:08 PM (DQC26)

273 My GoogleFu was bested.

There is a 1980s pic of Dale Earnhardt Sr and two others STANDING in the engine compartment of a stock car. Not much unlike my 1972 Chevelle.

Posted by: Golfman at March 19, 2018 08:09 PM (48QDY)

274 man, gen x looks at sad, cucked out boomers and the weirdo kids now populating america and we're all like, fuck why is no one cool anymore.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:09 PM (DQC26)

275 I've seen some mma fighters just dive bomb past the legs to smash the guy in the face.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:08 PM (DQC26)

Give this a dive-bomb, big boy ...

Posted by: Hope Solo at March 19, 2018 08:09 PM (fiGNd)

276 Late to the thread, but that dude's a giant vagina.

I'm embarrassed for him.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:09 PM (EdMxw)

277 Time for you to learn this," he'd said ..."

" ... as he unzipped his fly."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:09 PM (YqDXo)

278 Every word that shitbird says is a lie or worse ...

I'm going to quit even thinking about this before I puke.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at March 19, 2018 08:09 PM (e11dj)

279 274. Bingo. 'I'm not even supposed to be here!'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:10 PM (fA1SL)

280 Late to the thread, but that dude's a giant vagina.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:09 PM (EdMxw)

Would you like to see my pics ?

Posted by: Hope Solo at March 19, 2018 08:10 PM (fiGNd)

281 Tim Marchman was the guy who would fight any one of us faggots in The Octagon. He then ran like a little girl when a UFC guy called him out.
Posted by: tu3031
-----------

*recalls the guy who said he could "drop fascists at 500 yards", while holding a toy gun*

http://i.___ur.com/R1bIEV8.jpg

The funniest comment I saw was, "It's his job to guard the garbage".

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 19, 2018 08:11 PM (9tO1t)

282 It would just vaporize a bird.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 19, 2018 08:07 PM (GdWl+)

I had the same experience with my Grandpa's gun. Bolt action. Long barrel. Heavy Jacket. Bruise the size of Montana. I think I was not holding it tight enough to the shoulder. Learned that lesson.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 08:11 PM (OoaOv)

283 I wonder what the surrogate charged to carry his and his "wife's" child to term.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 19, 2018 08:11 PM (yQpMk)

284
I've never fired a gun. It's even more extreme than that, I've never even touched a gun. Not once, ever, in my whole life.

I've never seen the homo-craziness that happens in SF.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 19, 2018 08:11 PM (IqV8l)

285 279 274. Bingo. 'I'm not even supposed to be here!'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine

---

Cliff Spabb is very unimpressed

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:11 PM (DQC26)

286 You gotta wonder what the author might have experienced if given the kind of basic gun sense I got a summer camp as a boy scout.

How to ensure the weapon is empty. How to always assume it's loaded when first in hand. How to never point anywhere but down range. Loading, hold, grip, aim, brace, squeeze trigger.

Was he already the asshole he is now at age ten or eleven? Would this better introduction to guns have been a waste?

Maybe someone ought to ask him.

Posted by: Zombie Pontius Pilate at March 19, 2018 08:11 PM (5OEn4)

287 I've never seen the homo-craziness that happens in SF.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 19, 2018 08:11 PM (IqV8l)

No, but you just read about it in the post.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 08:12 PM (7UW64)

288 You didn't mention anything about plumbing.

Posted by: freaked at March 19, 2018 07:58 PM (UdKB7)

Heinlein left out plumbing, as well as electrical wiring, splitting logs by hand, and handling weapons (although that is implied in the context)!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at March 19, 2018 08:12 PM (n9EOP)

289 I'd have to read more of that author's work before I started calling him bad names, but on the surface of it he seems like the guy that got to carry the bats. If he fell off of his bike, he got a bandaid instead of a handful of dirt for his knee. This country had better wake the hell up and start skinning it's knees and elbows again, and rubbing dirt in, or all is lost. Our enemies children have grown up playing soccer using landmines as boundaries.

Posted by: goon at March 19, 2018 08:12 PM (EaQ6/)

290 I'd never seen my father have sex, he'd never talked about sex, and I'd never seen a Playboy in the house before. But one day I came home from school, and Dad was home early, waiting for me with that Playboy. "Time for you to learn this," he'd said. I told him I did not want to. He nodded gently and said he knew that but I had to try anyway. I wanted to make him happy, or least not make him mad, so I held the Playboy out in front of me, with dinosaur arms, put my hand on my pee-pee and, holding my breath and biting my lip so hard that my braces started to crank and ache, pulled it.

The whole world screamed blinding white; I didn't even hear my father scramble behind me to pick the Playboy off the ground. He was ashen -- plainly terrified, even though nothing that bad had actually happened. I must have looked stricken, too, because he put his arm around me and, for one of the few times I can remember, apologized. "I shouldn't have done that," he said. "I know you didn't want to, but I thought it was something that a man was supposed to do. It wasn't." He smiled. "To tell you the truth, I don't ever really want to do that either."

At least I think this is what he said: My mouth was still screaming. Neither one of us ever had sex again.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at March 19, 2018 08:12 PM (2NqXo)

291 You certainly lead an interesting life, zombie.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 08:12 PM (sdi6R)

292 Make it illegal for democrats to own guns.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 19, 2018 08:12 PM (rnAwa)

293
Similar to our house rules: Never let me hear you started a fight, but you'll get twice as much punishment if I find out you didn't fight back.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I'm No Longer Selling ARs Until My $300 Ones Will Go For $1000 at March 19, 2018 07:53 PM (JTMqu)

Same here. I was told you better never start a fight but you damn well better finish it.

Posted by: Infidel at March 19, 2018 08:12 PM (a3OL0)

294 The ad on the site was from Tiffany.

I expect a whole lot of manliness right there.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at March 19, 2018 08:12 PM (0QYMt)

295 282. Heh. Reminds me of when my grandfather taught me the rifle. A bolty, it was. He showed, once, how to work the bolt. I tried, made the rookie mistake of pinching the bolt-handle. 'Do that again, and I'll break your fingers.' And. He. Meant. It.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:13 PM (fA1SL)

296 *recalls the guy who said he could "drop fascists at 500 yards", while holding a toy gun*

~~http://i.___ur.com/R1bIEV8.jpg~~

The funniest comment I saw was, "It's his job to guard the garbage".
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Oops. Try this http://tinyurl.com/m5hl3oj

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 19, 2018 08:13 PM (9tO1t)

297
I just read the rest of that story. What an unbelievably feminine pussy. But he does tell everyone how "brilliant" his son is...Most likely bullshit as well.

He himself is one of those author-whores who sets down every infantile profundity that bounces around his skull full of mush and then attributes them having been asked by his kid, thereby shaming the kid and deflecting his own inadequacies.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 19, 2018 08:14 PM (pNxlR)

298 Same here. I was told you better never start a fight but you damn well better finish it.

Posted by: Infidel at March 19, 2018 08:12 PM (a3OL0)

Hell, I was told that, and I'm a girl.

My mom wasn't home when I was told that, but I was told.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 08:14 PM (7UW64)

299 JuJuBee,
LOLOLOL!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at March 19, 2018 08:14 PM (kufk0)

300 I eagerly await when this thoughtful son, father, and mostly author gives us book two, an update about the first time his father took him to a brothel and he, in turn, took his sons to the titty bar.

High-T will be dripping from the pages.

Posted by: Fritz at March 19, 2018 08:14 PM (bJ0w+)

301 One day my dad decided it was time to start learning how a real man earns his living, so he took me under the bridge to give hobos handjobs for twenty buck a pop.

When the thing went off, the kickback was so hard it sent my arm flying backwards. My vision went white as my eyes were hit with something I'm going to assume was a melted creamsicle that had gone sour.

"I didn't really want to do that," I said to my dad.

"Me neither," he said with a smile. "Hobos stink like the dead. But it's how we pay the rent. Now wipe the cum off your face and get back to work."

PS Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and the Russians stole three states

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 08:14 PM (8rNrN)

302 This is a little like the tactic that judo master used in his fight against Ali.

???? I'm a complete Ali fanboi and I don't know what you're referring to.

Related: I trained in Tae Kwon Do for a while and the best answer to every question of offense and defense was the side kick. I see MMA people and nobody side kicks. Why is that?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 19, 2018 08:15 PM (fuK7c)

303 Ryan Donato, the leading scorer for the Olympic hockey team out of Harvard signed with the Bruins this morning, suits up tonight and scores his first goal. Nice!

Posted by: tu3031 at March 19, 2018 08:15 PM (O5Q3r)

304 300 I eagerly await when this thoughtful son, father, and mostly author gives us book two, an update about the first time his father took him to a brothel and he, in turn, took his sons to the titty bar.

High-T will be dripping from the pages.

Posted by: Fritz at March 19, 2018 08:14 PM (bJ0w+)

He's afraid of tits.

And vag. The teeth, you know?

Assholes are just fine, I suspect.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 08:15 PM (7UW64)

305 Would you like to see my pics ?

Posted by: Hope Solo

Or mine?

Posted by: Demi Moore at March 19, 2018 08:15 PM (dDMQ9)

306 Heh. Reminds me of when my grandfather taught me the rifle. A bolty, it was. He showed, once, how to work the bolt. I tried, made the rookie mistake of pinching the bolt-handle. 'Do that again, and I'll break your fingers.' And. He. Meant. It.

Does the snow in your mouth really keep your breath from smoking?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 19, 2018 08:15 PM (yQpMk)

307
I don't believe that shotgun story either, but the article ranks right up there as an example of a Pussyman wearing unicorn pj's, bunny slippers and a pink pussy hat.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 19, 2018 08:15 PM (r+sAi)

308 Make it illegal for democrats to own guns.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
---------------

Instant 85% reduction in gun crimes. Every time someone mentions 'Common sense gun control', I suggest this. They are at a complete loss to make a counter-argument, but psychologically unable to acknowledge the logic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 19, 2018 08:16 PM (w1zJX)

309 306. Ha! He wasn't a poacher. Just one of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:16 PM (fA1SL)

310 >>>What office did you get elected to?

brownie, never elected

Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2018 08:16 PM (N0sw0)

311 291 You certainly lead an interesting life, zombie.

Posted by: rickl

You have no idea. The gun incidents are nowhere near the most extreme or craziest things that have happened to me (or that I've done) over the years. My life was nonstop crazy.

Posted by: zombie at March 19, 2018 08:16 PM (42M22)

312 .......if you have been born a straight white male, it is as if you are playing
a computer game called "The Real World" with the difficulty set on the
lowest level.

------------------------------

What utter bullshit. Maybe in the facility lounge but not in the real world. Like I say, mostly to myself, being a white male in this country means having no excuse for failure.

Posted by: Javems at March 19, 2018 08:17 PM (451ur)

313 Our first targets were tin cans, and we quickly graduated to shooting woodchucks, porcupines, blue jays, and half the chickadees in the northern Adirondacks.

Dads and uncles let us shoot the deer rifles but made sure we were well-taught, and we then tried shotgunning.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at March 19, 2018 08:17 PM (5OEn4)

314 Instant 85% reduction in gun crimes. Every time someone mentions 'Common sense gun control', I suggest this. They are at a complete loss to make a counter-argument, but psychologically unable to acknowledge the logic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 19, 2018 08:16 PM (w1zJX)

Works for me. I wouldn't let the democrats I know anywhere near my firearms. I guess when they register to vote, they would have to turn them in. Win Win.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 08:17 PM (7UW64)

315 Kurt Schlichter has some words for the Weakly Cucks who are knocking Jesse Kelly's rebuttal piece

https://twitter.com/KurtSchlichter/status/975889875751677952

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 08:17 PM (8rNrN)

316 So, the pussy who wrote this pussifying poor excuse of an article on how manhood is all toxic, amongst various and sundry idiotic slogans: He actually called one of his two moms, "Dad?"

How fvcked up is that?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 19, 2018 08:18 PM (GdWl+)

317 The brothels are full. Do you have any other skills?

Posted by: Aunty Entity at March 19, 2018 08:18 PM (0ogQG)

318 I recognize that this is playing with the idea of gender normativity, exactly the sort of thing that the last ten years of culture progression has helped Midwestern farmboy straight idiots like me better understand, but I also am not going to try to stop my two sons from doing normal boy activities because I'm trying to prove some sort of post-graduate thesis.

His version of straight must be entirely different from the rest of the worlds. Just reading this shit reminds me of how much I hated Deadspin

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 08:18 PM (SiINZ)

319 ou have no idea. The gun incidents are nowhere near the most extreme or craziest things that have happened to me (or that I've done) over the years. My life was nonstop crazy.
Posted by: zombie at March 19, 2018 08:16 PM (42M

Your story was horrifying. All of them. Thankfully I've never had a weapon pointed at me.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:18 PM (EdMxw)

320
Would you like to see my pics ?
Posted by: Hope Solo

Or mine?
Posted by: Demi Moore

How about mine?

Posted by: Jim Carrey at March 19, 2018 08:19 PM (IqV8l)

321 First time I shot a 20 gauge - I was 8 - it knocked me straight on my ass. I simply wasn't innately prepared for it, no matter what my instructor did to help (he tried, but you sometimes gotta learn the hard way).

I kept to .22 plinking after that. Now that was fun for an eight year old.

I shot 12 gauge as an adult without a problem; mostly because I learned the hard way you really do have to lean into it.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 08:19 PM (39d8a)

322 JuJuBee,
LOLOLOL!!!
Posted by: lin-duh at March 19, 2018 08:14 PM

Thank you lin-duh.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at March 19, 2018 08:19 PM (2NqXo)

323 Heinlein left out plumbing, as well as electrical wiring, splitting logs by hand, and handling weapons (although that is implied in the context)!

I'm a manly man. A man's kind of man. I've worked in the trades. (Not well). Electricity scares the shit out of me. Wiring a model railroad set? Yes. Touching the stuff that powers the wifi? Nooooo.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 19, 2018 08:20 PM (fuK7c)

324 312 .......if you have been born a straight white male, it is as if you are playing
a computer game called "The Real World" with the difficulty set on the
lowest level.

------------------------------

this is super insulting cuck logic. Most of us go to college and do the hard courses or start businesses and work for a living. White men seem to have a desire to work and that's why the suicide rate was so high after the 2008 crash. No jobs for whitey while companies were getting fat on H1b's.

the guy who wrote "being white is super easy" is also the one who praised georgia for becoming "less white and therefore gay enough to vote, possibly, for hillary"

We need to stop toxic cuckoldry

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:20 PM (DQC26)

325
Hell, I was told that, and I'm a girl.

My mom wasn't home when I was told that, but I was told.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 08:14 PM (7UW64)

Heh, I'm a girl and my dad told me that.

Posted by: Infidel at March 19, 2018 08:20 PM (a3OL0)

326
We never spoke of the shameful incident with the 'firestick' again, but we did celebrate my rite of passage by going together to that week's meeting of our local NAMBLA chapter.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 19, 2018 08:20 PM (pNxlR)

327 I always scratch my head at this. There' some generational line where this thinking occurs.

Because while, yes, you need a few more tools, most brand new cars can be worked on like older ones. You change plugs or coils or timing belts, people customize them with new pistons to change the compression or cams, as applicable.

Heck, as long as the electronics are *working* properly, it's even easier to find problems.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 19, 2018 08:02 PM (wB8Tg)

Yeah, but who does any of that any more? I'm on the distal side of the generation line. I used to tune up my car quarterly, but with electronic ignition, not necessary. I gave away my timing light and feeler gauge after years of disuse. (Changing plugs is trivial; I don't call that working on your car.)

I don't have any intention of changing timing belts, much less customizing on the engine, because I'm not interested in bothering (or interested in cars generally), and economically it makes no sense: I can make a lot more money in the time I save than the mechanic costs, and I don't really enjoy doing that stuff particularly.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:20 PM (YqDXo)

328 I'm a girl and shot rifles and a shotgun and a handgun before I was 15. How are all these "new men" such pussies?

Soy?

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2018 08:20 PM (CAKgV)

329 The country was once set up solely for the benefit of dudes like me. Now, it is merely mostly set up that way. In a generation, maybe we'll hit slightly.

If anything needs to be hit, it's his face with a 2x4. Dudes, like him. Mincing ponce

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 08:21 PM (SiINZ)

330 >>>???? I'm a complete Ali fanboi and I don't know what you're referring to.

ali fought an exhibition match against a Japanese judokka. Guy just went to the mat and kicked up at Ali. The "fight' wasn't even a fight. No one would engage each other.

here are some highlights. There were very few highlights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_ZQAVoGhaw

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 08:21 PM (8rNrN)

331 as scott adams noted, republicans want their guns to protect themselves from democrats who are actively trying to kill them. or something like that.

we need to stop toxic projection

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:21 PM (DQC26)

332 BTW he's identified as a "japanese pro wrestler," I guess in that big japanese pro wrestling league, and not a judokka per se, but, come on, it's Japan, wrestling over there must be 90% judo.

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 08:22 PM (8rNrN)

333 SC has refused to give Pa Republicans a stay after a three judge panel rejected an appeal regarding the new state districting map.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 19, 2018 08:22 PM (m0lmR)

334 Does anyone remember back in the 90s all the narratives were about "it's ok for men to cry and show their feelings"

Once this narrative had reached it's zenith, there inevitably followed articles by the women asking "Where have all the REAL men gone". They wanted boyfriends and husbands, not little boys who wanted the women to be their mommies.

Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2018 08:22 PM (eh0Va)

335 At least I think this is what he said: My mouth was still screaming. Neither one of us ever had sex again.

And that was the last time we ever heard of Che Che of the Quivering Lip.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 19, 2018 08:22 PM (GdWl+)

336 'Yeah, but who does any of that any more?'

Me.

Posted by: freaked at March 19, 2018 08:23 PM (UdKB7)

337 How are all these "new men" such pussies?

Soy?
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New study says that all the essential oils used could be lowering testosterone levels in men...I think I read it on Instapundit

Posted by: lin-duh at March 19, 2018 08:23 PM (kufk0)

338 329 The country was once set up solely for the benefit of dudes like me. Now, it is merely mostly set up that way. In a generation, maybe we'll hit slightly.

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it is amazing how nations work. Similar people grouped in a geographic area...usually working together to at least get the harvest done by winter. Not quite the progressive fairly land of 3rd world genital mutilators living on first world welfare while global businesses use offshoring to avoid paying first world wages locally.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:23 PM (DQC26)

339 I shot 12 gauge as an adult without a problem; mostly because I learned the hard way you really do have to lean into it.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer
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I recall the first time that my dad let me take his Remington 1100 out for a dove hunt. I was pleased as punch, figuring that my take would be superior to that with my 20 ga.

Meh...maybe a couple more birds, but an afternoon on that Dove field with that 12 ga. left me with a very sore shoulder.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 19, 2018 08:23 PM (9tO1t)

340 And that aggressiveness and entitlement - the positive advice to children to be whatever they want, weaponized over the generations - has to come at a cost, someone else's cost. The power white American boys have been taught to seize for generations comes from the already powerless, women, people of color, everyone who isn't us.

Then the little queen needs to hand everything he owns over to wymyn, peoples of colors and everyone else and live in the gutter and then shut the fuck up about it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 08:24 PM (SiINZ)

341 Does anyone remember back in the 90s all the narratives were about "it's ok for men to cry and show their feelings"

80's. I blame Alan Alda and Phil Donahue. They should've been relieved of their gonads.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 19, 2018 08:24 PM (O5Q3r)

342
'Common sense gun control'

How can common sense exist when there is no commonality between peoples?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 19, 2018 08:24 PM (IqV8l)

343 I'm a manly man. A man's kind of man. I've worked in the trades. (Not well). Electricity scares the shit out of me. Wiring a model railroad set? Yes. Touching the stuff that powers the wifi? Nooooo.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 19, 2018 08:20 PM (fuK7c)

Think of electricity like piping - shut off the flow upstream and you can do what you want.

Just make sure all your black wires and white wires match up after you are done. Green and bare wires should all be together too. It's all flow.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 08:24 PM (39d8a)

344 Does anyone remember back in the 90s all the narratives were about "it's ok for men to cry and show their feelings"

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That's some cuck boomer stuff that was all the rage in the 70's and then Reagan dick punched it until it was a punchline.

But here we are. sad

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:24 PM (DQC26)

345 SC has refused to give Pa Republicans a stay after a three judge panel rejected an appeal regarding the new state districting map.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 19, 2018 08:22 PM (m0lmR)

I saw that early today. Worthless turds

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 08:24 PM (SiINZ)

346 there was also a famous incident of one of those japanese wrestlers challenging one of the gracies to a private grudge match.

apparently the Gracie fucking nearly killed him. I think he said something like, "The rules are different in a grudge match. This isn't for sport. This is for real."

Later, i think that same guy would fight in the early UFC against a different Gracie.

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 08:24 PM (8rNrN)

347
Speaking of weather conspiracies, Rutgers University came up with an explanation of why most of the USA is so cold and snowy.

It's because, get this, warming at the Arctic.

It's very cold HERE because it's very slightly warm WAY UP THERE.

Is Rutgers some school for dunces? Or do they think we're dunces?

Posted by: Soothsayer Is Going There at March 19, 2018 08:25 PM (v2bko)

348 At a young age, I learned to defend myself with my jazz hands.

Posted by: Shemp! at March 19, 2018 08:25 PM (Tyii7)

349
80's. I blame Alan Alda and Phil Donahue. They should've been relieved of their gonads.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 19, 2018 08:24 PM (O5Q3r)

I doubt they had any to begin with

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 08:25 PM (SiINZ)

350 I just read the rest of that story. What an unbelievably feminine pussy. But he does tell everyone how "brilliant" his son is...Most likely bullshit as well.

I bet his holiday "family update" letter is insufferable.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 08:25 PM (NWiLs)

351

Star Wars XVII: The Masculinity Menace

Posted by: Soothsayer Is Going There at March 19, 2018 08:25 PM (v2bko)

352 we need to end toxic marxism

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:26 PM (DQC26)

353 As info that is surely related to this, the head of recruiting for the Army stated recently that 70% of American males, aged 18-24, are unsuitable for military service.

This AFTER relaxing the standards re tattoos, misdemeanors and previous pot issues.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 19, 2018 08:26 PM (0ogQG)

354 >>>Think of electricity like piping - shut off the flow upstream and you can do what you want.<<<

Unless you have solar panels or a wind farm or some other kind of generator. Watch your ass!

Posted by: Fritz at March 19, 2018 08:26 PM (bJ0w+)

355 Unsteady and unsure of himself, he loaded a bullet into the chamber and told me to aim somewhere deep into one of the endless cornfields that make up whole swathes of this country...

20 gauge "bullet". Even at this point in his life, with that humiliating experience behind him, he still didn't take the time to learn bullet and shell aren't the same thing?
Proud preening progressive pussy, e is.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 19, 2018 08:26 PM (z79tQ)

356 >>> I'm a girl and shot rifles and a shotgun and a handgun before I was 15. How are all these "new men" such pussies?

From personal anecdotes, I think it is really more of an urban coastal versus rural heartland thing. Living in the middle of the country in several states, the leftists I knew could still swing a hammer or change oil. But when I moved to Southern California, I literally was the only one out of five conservative lawyers who knew how to change a tire when it blew out after a hearing. Other than the military, and Mexican day laborers, everyone is a pussy out here.

Posted by: wooga at March 19, 2018 08:26 PM (PnpIB)

357 I first shot by shooting a .22 at targets, graduated to trap shooting with a 12 gauge. Once I got used to the recoil, it was pretty cool. Not scared of the big boom noise at all.

I'm a 2nd Amendment supporter who doesn't own a gun and doesn't want to own one unless and until I feel it might be necessary.

Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2018 08:27 PM (eh0Va)

358 350. All such things are, by definition. They are deliberate, calculated insults when they're not outright provocations to violence.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:27 PM (fA1SL)

359 here's a story about Rickson Gracie (that was the Gracie in the fight) beating the living shit out of a japanese pro wrestler in a closed-door, no-media match.

the wrestler's bloody face tells the story.

https://www.bjjee.com/articles/a-blow-by-blow-
account-of-the-rickson-gracie-vs-yoji-anjo-closed-door-fight/

(remove space between "blow-" and "account")

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 08:27 PM (8rNrN)

360 343
Just make sure all your black wires and white wires match up after you are done. Green and bare wires should all be together too. It's all flow.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 08:24 PM (39d8a)

Yeah, no. I'd rather pay someone who knows what he's doing than wing it and risk burning my house down.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 08:27 PM (sdi6R)

361 I'm a manly man. A man's kind of man. I've worked in the trades. (Not well). Electricity scares the shit out of me. Wiring a model railroad set? Yes. Touching the stuff that powers the wifi? Nooooo.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 19, 2018 08:20 PM (fuK7c)

See that's where physics courses in college come in. Between those, and working on scientific instruments (where I learned the "one hand in the pocket" trick, which is why I'm here today), I'm actually more comfortable with electricity than with, e.g., plumbing, where I'm always paranoid about flooding the place.*

*I confessed to a former plumber at Home Depot how after working on the plumbing I always freaked when someone flushed (or something else caused the water to roar through the pipes) until the water stopped, standing there listening like a guy in a U-boat undergoing depth charging. He laughed and admitted that he did the same thing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:27 PM (YqDXo)

362 Speaking of weather conspiracies, Rutgers University came up with an explanation of why most of the USA is so cold and snowy.

It's because, get this, warming at the Arctic.

And do you know who's responsible for that? THE JOOS!

Posted by: O'Brien at March 19, 2018 08:27 PM (O5Q3r)

363 and for the record, as a normal kid born before the great soying of America, I'd sword fight with any remotely sword like object, play guns with any vaguely gun-like object, and when we saw guns, in real life or TV, we knew it was cool. We also knew the liberals were pretty full of it that they wanted to take them away from us.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:27 PM (DQC26)

364 My dad would yell "Shemp!, go play with your dolls".

Posted by: Shemp! at March 19, 2018 08:27 PM (Tyii7)

365 Dont know anything bout this subject. I raised a Ranger. And a daughter not disinclined to kick her boyfriend's ass when necessary.

Posted by: BluesFish at March 19, 2018 08:28 PM (eiEbT)

366 The first writer may not have any guns, but I'll bet s/he/it has a kick-ass collection of melon ballers. All of them registered.

I have to ask, just how many of us had fathers who wanted us pulled over by the police? (Admittedly, when my brother - in his 20s - went to Argentina, dad advised him "Don't take any shit from policemen. They respect you if you stand up to them.")

Posted by: George LeS at March 19, 2018 08:28 PM (+TcCF)

367 Speaking of masculinity, think Trump got a High T guy in Joe DiGenova today.

The conspirator known as Mueller is about to get a taste of legal aggression and expertise that will make his patrician ass beg for time out.

Posted by: Economically useless and malignantly aggrieved at March 19, 2018 08:28 PM (5BVHO)

368 But when I moved to Southern California, I literally was the only one out of five conservative lawyers who knew how to change a tire when it blew out after a hearing. Other than the military, and Mexican day laborers, everyone is a pussy out here.
Posted by: wooga at March 19, 2018 08:26 PM (PnpIB)

I taught my sons how to change a tire. Whether it took, or they need a booster shot, I dunno.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:28 PM (YqDXo)

369 REAL dads in my day gave their son a can of beer and told him to drink the whole thing.

Any dad worth a shit also taught their sons and daughters how to drive a stick shift. Sometimes after making them drink the can of beer.

Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2018 08:29 PM (eh0Va)

370 I think it's probably a good idea that men should feel they can, on occasion, express their feelings, discuss their feelings, and even cry.

Veterans with PTSD have stuff they need permission to feel and work out, I think, rather than keeping it all inside.

But... let's not go crazy with that.

And let's try some butch stuff in between the crying jags.

Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 08:29 PM (8rNrN)

371 ali fought an exhibition match against a Japanese judokka. Guy just went to the mat and kicked up at Ali. The "fight' wasn't even a fight. No one would engage each other.

Thanks, I didn't know about that.

I was hoping that is was from the period when he was banned from boxing and needed the money, but alas it was '76,

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 19, 2018 08:29 PM (fuK7c)

372 I bet his first time throwing a baseball went similarly.

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2018 08:29 PM (8cvCt)

373 BTW he's identified as a "japanese pro wrestler," I guess in that big japanese pro wrestling league, and not a judokka per se, but, come on, it's Japan, wrestling over there must be 90% judo.

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 08:22 PM (8rNrN)

There's professional wrestling, but there's also Shoot Wrestling, which was an attempt to merge pro wrestling and legit wrestling, and then there's sumo and judo/jujistu as well.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 19, 2018 08:30 PM (Tnhbr)

374 (Admittedly, when my brother - in his 20s - went to Argentina, dad advised him "Don't take any shit from policemen. They respect you if you stand up to them.")

I laughed out loud. It's true of the Spanish Guardia Civil too. They respect your machismo.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 19, 2018 08:30 PM (yQpMk)

375 80's. I blame Alan Alda and Phil Donahue. They should've been relieved of their gonads.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 19, 2018 08:24 PM (O5Q3r)

They both commit fraud every time they raise the toilet seat.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:31 PM (YqDXo)

376 Just make sure all your black wires and white wires match up after you are done. Green and bare wires should all be together too. It's all flow.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer
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*gazes at red wire*

Uh, oh.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 19, 2018 08:31 PM (QxXRY)

377 When I was a kid it seemed like all the dad's in my neighborhood were WW2 vets that grew up during the Depression. I don't remember getting much sympathy for problems of mine that seemed trivial to them and advice was pretty simple.

Posted by: dartist at March 19, 2018 08:31 PM (nisXv)

378
Star Wars is on. It's the Jack The Ripper episode in which Jack frames Scotty for murdering three women.

Posted by: Soothsayer Is Going There at March 19, 2018 08:32 PM (v2bko)

379 Um wow, according to him Atilla the Hun and Genghis Khan are white males oozing privledge.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 19, 2018 08:32 PM (IdRpH)

380 369 REAL dads in my day gave their son a can of beer and told him to drink the whole thing.

Any dad worth a shit also taught their sons and daughters how to drive a stick shift. Sometimes after making them drink the can of beer.
Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2018 08:29 PM (eh0Va)

Luxury. My dad taught me how to drive a stick after forcing me to drink a case of whiskey and clean the driveway with a toothbrush.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 08:32 PM (sdi6R)

381 This is a little like the tactic that judo master used in his fight against Ali.

Point is, there was no way in hell to get past his legs (which were pretty strong, stronger than his upper body and mine as well), and he taught me the lesson that there's a way to beat any bully.

Damn, his fucking leg defense was impregnable. It used to make me so angry.

I was watching this guy explain the basics of BJJ to Joe Rogan and he said there were four main parts of BJJ. 1, take him to the floor to reduce his explosive power and make the fight more predictable. 2. Fight past his legs to take the powerful legs out of the equation and again make the fight more predictable.

I won't go into 3 and 4. Point is, my damn brother figured out that leg defense and I never figured out 2, how to get past the legs to start working on pins and submissions.
Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 08:06 PM (8rNrN)

Don't bother trying. If he's on the ground, then he's not coming after you. Use the time to get away or look for a weapon.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 19, 2018 08:32 PM (Tnhbr)

382 >>>There's professional wrestling, but there's also Shoot Wrestling, which was an attempt to merge pro wrestling and legit wrestling, and then there's sumo and judo/jujistu as well.

so Japanese "pro wrestling" is largely/entirely fake a la the American version?

Geeze, why would you challenge a real fighter then?! Baffling!!!

Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 08:32 PM (8rNrN)

383 I bet his first time throwing a baseball went similarly.
Posted by: t-bird
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This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Barky, the boy President at March 19, 2018 08:32 PM (QxXRY)

384 7 I first shot by shooting a .22 at targets, graduated to trap shooting with a 12 gauge. Once I got used to the recoil, it was pretty cool. Not scared of the big boom noise at all.

I'm a 2nd Amendment supporter who doesn't own a gun and doesn't want to own one unless and until I feel it might be necessary.

Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2018 08:27 PM (eh0Va)

I shot a .22 when I was about 8 or 9 with my dad. He'd set up cans for me to shoot. My brothers got to shoot the shotgun. He wouldn't let me.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:32 PM (QG/kl)

385 Oh, sweetie, get an ulu and then watch the videos of the Native ladies cleaning salmon. Fastest and easiest way to have perfect fish every time.

I grew up doing it. I'm the one-woman slime line in the family come dipnetting time. It is messy, but it beats standing the freezing river all day.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 07:38 PM (7UW64)

Those are cool, but I imagine I'd make a mess of panfish, which is what I usually catch. Although the last few days it's been Coho from the boats on the river (I have no boat).

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 08:33 PM (G8B7r)

386 Any dad worth a shit also taught their sons and daughters how to drive a stick shift.
Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2018 08:29 PM (eh0Va)

I did that too. How well it took, I dunno. The younger Guevara, by forcing the shift lever with minimal benefit of the clutch, managed to gork the transmission linkage.

$500 later, we were back in business.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:33 PM (YqDXo)

387 367 Speaking of masculinity, think Trump got a High T guy in Joe DiGenova today.

The conspirator known as Mueller is about to get a taste of legal aggression and expertise that will make his patrician ass beg for time out.

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that's odd, as we know, firing mueller...even talking back to mueller...is not who we are and can spark a constitutional crisis as obstructing justice. After all, Mueller has 13 indictments with over 100 charges. He is currently waiting for Flynn to plea guilty to the super charge of lying to the FBI, admittedly supported by the FBI changing their version of what was said...as well as by getting Manafort to agree to a $35 fine plea deal after initially charging him with super treason and conspiracy to super rob America with a total liabilty of 500 years in jail.

So, please don't spit on the immigrants who make america great...the ones showing up next week, there's about a million of them...not the ones who came here a 140 years ago. yuck...by insulting Meuller and his sacred duty of investigating every republican who workeed with trump.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:33 PM (DQC26)

388 >>>Don't bother trying. If he's on the ground, then he's not coming after you. Use the time to get away or look for a weapon.

but dude took my Butterscotch Krumpet, man.

Justice must be done.

Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 08:33 PM (8rNrN)

389 Star Wars is on. It's the Jack The Ripper episode in which Jack frames Scotty for murdering three women.

Posted by: Soothsayer Is Going There at March 19, 2018 08:32 PM (v2bko)

Is that the one where Kolchak ends up electrocuting Jack?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 08:33 PM (SiINZ)

390 Feelings, wo-o-o feelings...

Posted by: Shemp! at March 19, 2018 08:34 PM (Tyii7)

391 Economically useless, I read somewhere today that DiGenova will be a public affairs liaison for Trump's legal team. Which makes sense. He's good on TV, and an actual experienced expert in the DOJ, federal prosecution, etc. And I suppose as such he'd chime in where relevant with the lawyers, but reportedly he will be an interface with the media, not one of the legal engines driving the ship.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 19, 2018 08:34 PM (QDnY+)

392 So I guess the Supreme Court has basically given a green light that any state can now just have liberal judges draw their maps.

And TruCon losers on our side will say "federalism" and let them do it. We don't dare want the SC getting involved in a state matter.

Posted by: Jackso at March 19, 2018 08:34 PM (uc45P)

393 Luxury. My dad taught me how to drive a stick after forcing me to drink a case of whiskey and clean the driveway with a toothbrush.
Posted by: rickl
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I had to clean out the septic tank, with my hands.

Posted by: Barky, the boy President at March 19, 2018 08:34 PM (QxXRY)

394 I regularly tell any complaining son that I have vagisil in my nightstand. He's welcome to use it if it will shut him up.

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2018 08:34 PM (CAKgV)

395 380. You had a toothbrush AND a driveway? Well, pardon me.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:34 PM (fA1SL)

396
Is that the one where Kolchak ends up electrocuting Jack?

Yeah, after Mulder & Scully corner Jack.

Posted by: Soothsayer Is Going There at March 19, 2018 08:35 PM (v2bko)

397 My mom taught me to drive a stick by putting me on hills and then laughing her ass off as I rolled and cried. True story.

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2018 08:35 PM (CAKgV)

398 379 Um wow, according to him Atilla the Hun and Genghis Khan are white males oozing privledge.

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well, you see...asians are minorities. right? there's only a billion point five. And they've typically been denied the benefits of being american...simply because there wasn't a lot of them here.

On the serious note, watch the Scorsese movie Silence to see how other cultures opened their arms to outsiders.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:36 PM (DQC26)

399 Funny how all this BS about masculinity being somehow "toxic" when it's not, manages to completely and totally ignore men's positive attributes. There are quite a few of them.

And they think no one notices what's missing?

That's how stoopid they think we are, eh?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 19, 2018 08:36 PM (GdWl+)

400 wooga I think there are quite a few people around here who can change a tire aside from military and Mexican day laborers. I don't think pussification is actually a central problem. Not sure exactly what is, and the populace is stunningly stupid on many things (obviously), but I don't see emasculation as a big factor.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 19, 2018 08:36 PM (QDnY+)

401 I had a sawed off shotgun pulled on me. What that dude was talking about wasn't shit. Fucking pussy.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay Woke! - Leigon of Gloom founding memeber/too sweet at March 19, 2018 08:36 PM (IYHxL)

402 and for the record, as a normal kid born before the great soying of America, I'd sword fight with any remotely sword like object, play guns with any vaguely gun-like object, and when we saw guns, in real life or TV, we knew it was cool. We also knew the liberals were pretty full of it that they wanted to take them away from us.
Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:27 PM (DQC26)

Every boy, at some time in his life, needs to be given a wooden sword and sent out into the back woods to slay dragons.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 19, 2018 08:36 PM (Tnhbr)

403

Spoiler:
Mr Peterson from Bob Newhart Show is Jack The Ripper.

Posted by: Soothsayer Is Going There at March 19, 2018 08:37 PM (v2bko)

404 In the 20th century, aggressive men who had pathways to success cut off tended to become gangsters.

If our enlightened betters want to revive the glory days of the Italian, Jewish, and Irish mafias or the Hell's Angels, they certainly seem to be doing their best to make that their biggest Unintended Consequence.

Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2018 08:37 PM (eh0Va)

405 397 My mom taught me to drive a stick by putting me on hills and then laughing her ass off as I rolled and cried. True story.
Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2018 08:35 PM (CAKgV)

Sorry, but that made me laugh. That sounds like something a dad would do.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:37 PM (QG/kl)

406 203 ... Hrothgar, I always loved that quote from Heinlein. IIRC, it's from "Time Enough For Love".

Posted by: JTB at March 19, 2018 08:37 PM (V+03K)

407 I've taught several people how to shoot. Every one of them had a positive experience.

Here's my basic method.

At a comfortable location:

I show them the glasses and earmuffs. I let them try them on.

I go over the four rules of gun safety a few times.

I show them a handgun with slide racked back. I put my finger in the chamber and look down the magazine well and say out loud, "The weapon is empty."

I then hand them the weapon, show them where to point it, and tell them to do what I just did. We go over basic operation. Rack the slide, insert a magazine, get a good grip, look down the sights, learn how to put your finger pad on the trigger, press the trigger backward, good breathing, etc.

Then we go to the range.

We pick out the largest frame 9mm that fits comfortably in their hands. We pick out some range ammo.

We then go on the range.

I fire a few rounds, remind them of good grip, stance, finger position etc.

This part's important. I load the weapon with a single round.

This is just in case the first round makes them do something silly like drop the weapon, or point it in an unsafe direction.

I then guide them through simple stance, breathing, sight picture, trigger press, and their first shot.

This is almost always frightening, but exhilarating. I load the weapon with one round a few times until they're comfortable and I'm comfortable. We then load it with a few more rounds. Usually by the time they're done with this magazine of a few shots they're good.

I fire off a couple of magazines, pointing out some of the things I'm doing.

Then we go get some food.

I've never had a student who didn't love it, become a shooter themselves, and become a gun owner themselves.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 19, 2018 08:37 PM (zGsgt)

408 My mom taught me to drive a stick by putting me on hills and then laughing her ass off as I rolled and cried. True story.
Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2018 08:35 PM (CAKgV)

My dad tried to teach me by having me drive around an empty parking lot while he occasionally yelled "SHIFT!"

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 19, 2018 08:37 PM (Tnhbr)

409 295 282. Heh. Reminds me of when my grandfather taught me the rifle. A bolty, it was. He showed, once, how to work the bolt. I tried, made the rookie mistake of pinching the bolt-handle. 'Do that again, and I'll break your fingers.' And. He. Meant. It.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:13 PM (fA1SL)

My Pappaw had a P38 he got in Europe (still had the German's name in the holster flap... Schumman? Something starting with a Schu-.) When we went out shooting one day, he let me try it out (I was maybe 12? 13?) It was a nice shooting gun.

My Dad told me a story of him and a cousin going out shooting with the same gun. His cousin was shocked enough by the recoil that he started to bring the barrel to his face. My grandfather evidently jumped over several logs to knock the gun down.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 08:38 PM (OoaOv)

410 372 I bet his first time throwing a baseball went similarly.
Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2018 08:29 PM (8cvCt)

As mentioned previously, I still play baseball, having played in high school, college, and semi-pro for a while before I went to grad school.

Occasionally we have guys turn claiming great things in their past. So we watch them warm up. Now everybody's is stiff, creaky, and funky for the first couple throws. But after that, any lousy throwing mechanics - and a forteriori any girly throws - and we all look at each other and nod signficantly.

Curiously, those claiming great things don't realize that we can tell the hackers from the non-hackers at a glance. Pie-throwing mechanics, casting badly in swinging a bat, running with your arms flapping side to side ... hmmmm.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:38 PM (YqDXo)

411 377 When I was a kid it seemed like all the dad's in my neighborhood were WW2 vets that grew up during the Depression. I don't remember getting much sympathy for problems of mine that seemed trivial to them and advice was pretty simple.

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yup. they probably look at us like the pussies we think boomers and millenials are

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:38 PM (DQC26)

412 Spoiler:
Mr Peterson from Bob Newhart Show is Jack The Ripper.

Posted by: Soothsayer Is Going There at March 19, 2018 08:37 PM (v2bko)

Did he kill Elliot Carlin yet for always making fun of him?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 08:38 PM (SiINZ)

413
Elliot Carlin was one of the best TV characters that will ever be.

Posted by: Soothsayer Is Going There at March 19, 2018 08:39 PM (v2bko)

414 402. My girls are into my family's culture. A man can do worse than have his daughters admire a young woman like this:

https://youtu.be/AN3uhImuy6E

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:39 PM (fA1SL)

415 I've never had a student who didn't love it, become a shooter themselves, and become a gun owner themselves.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 19, 2018 08:37 PM (zGsgt)

Reading your comment and I can smell the gunpowder.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:39 PM (QG/kl)

416 >>I go over the four rules of gun safety a few times.

There is a fifth one, you know: 5. Don't let pussy fathers pretend to teach their ghey sons how to shoot anything.

Posted by: Roy at March 19, 2018 08:40 PM (xDdrC)

417 Sounds like fiction. Like the kind of thing a pansy
who has never had his hands on a gun wishes would happen in gun-owning
households.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 19, 2018 07:32 PM (pvjTE)

I agree with Anon Y Mous Johnson.

The dad brings the son out into a cornfield to shoot a gun, no instruction, no target, nothing, just load a round and fire. A gun the son never knew the dad had? That right there is bullshit, my youngest granddaughter knows I have guns even though I have never had one out when she has been present. Anyways, son, here is a gun, go ahead pull the trigger! Yippee!
I shot a Ruger Mini 14 when I was 12, I too, was out in a field in much colder Minnesota. It had little kick, wasn't horrifically loud, but I sure as hell knew what I was shooting at, how I held it, and how to ensure that the area was safe down the gun target line.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at March 19, 2018 08:40 PM (DxWUs)

418 If our enlightened betters want to revive the glory days of the Italian, Jewish, and Irish mafias or the Hell's Angels, they certainly seem to be doing their best to make that their biggest Unintended Consequence.
Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2018 08:37 PM (eh0Va)

That is the only thing they are good at: Unintended Consequences.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 19, 2018 08:41 PM (EoRCO)

419 Somewhere in my childhood filled with the fascination of cowboys, soldiers, and cops, my dad had a similar idea.

Not that he was of this writer's caliber. My dad was a decorated WWII vet and former hunter. But having two boys who loved the concept of guns (my mom fell for the Dr. Spock thing of no toy guns at some point and our cap guns were confiscated) and would make them out of lego's and electrical tape if necessary, he thought a lesson in reality would do us some good.
So, the next time we went to my uncle's place in the sticks, Uncle Tom pulls out one of his guns from his glass-doored cabinet.
Yep, a 20 gauge pump. With a handful of shells, he says let's go out to the yard, and my brother and I lit up like christmas trees.
We get out to the back yard, which was downhill to a farm field and he's got a five gallon bucket in which the water had frozen. He pounds on the sides of the bucket and the ice slides out, he turns the bucket upside down, puts the bucket-shaped ice on top and we've got a target.

From about 10 yards away I get first go at it, and after a short safety speech, he tells me how to rack the shell in and fire when ready.

Lemme tell you, it blew the shit out of that ice chunk, and I was thrilled. It did kick more than I expected it to, but I don't remember the recoil, only the KABLAMMO! and ice everywhere.
So now my little brother has no target to shoot, so my uncle lets him shoot the bucket, and it too went flying.

Long story short, the two adults had concocted a scheme where we end up scared of firearms by letting us get shoulder punched, but all it did was jack us up about it all the more.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 19, 2018 08:41 PM (z79tQ)

420 408 My mom taught me to drive a stick by putting me on hills and then laughing her ass off as I rolled and cried. True story.
Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2018 08:35 PM (CAKgV)

My dad tried to teach me by having me drive around an empty parking lot while he occasionally yelled "SHIFT!"
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 19, 2018 08:37 PM (Tnhbr)

I started by explaining to my sons that driving a stick was like balancing on a teeter totter, namely, press with one foot, release with the other, back and forth through the balance point between the two. The gear shift part is easy; it's the footwork that people need help on.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:41 PM (YqDXo)

421 For essentially all of human history, science fiction writer John Scalzi has memorably written, if you have been born a straight white male, it is as if you are playing a computer game called "The Real World" with the difficulty set on the lowest level.

Scalzi is a weeping infected sore on a leper's taint.

It's as if being a "straight white male" means you're not expected to work hard, not expected to persevere. As if it means you can slack off and you'll just Win Because You're White.

Bullshit. Used to be we had an entire society focused on training boys how to succeed -- from life at home to schools that actually provided educations, to churches that expected more out of people, to even social clubs that rewarded hard work, learning, care, and engagement with your community. Boys were expected to have jobs to earn their way -- or even support their family.

NOBODY respected a guy who couldn't support his family. NOBODY thought it was masculine to get a woman pregnant and then throw woman and child onto the mercies of strangers.

White men didn't succeed because they were white, but because they listened to society's lessons about what the fuck it took to succeed. It wasn't easy -- it's always been easier to be the lazy SOB, the drunkard, the sperm-donor who skips out on his family -- but it was what was expected.

Our society -- and that of most of Europe -- made those lessons available to EVERYONE. Sometimes the wrong way, but, damned, if we all didn't try to teach everyone how to succeed.

Then, for some reason, we let the racists convince us that blacks (and Mexicans, and poor white kids, and so on) can't succeed that way. That the behavior we had to build a entire culture to teach our kids was somehow inherent in our genetics, and so it was unfair to expect people with a different skin color to be able to learn the same lessons.

And ever since we decided to let the leftist racists win, we've been building a culture that teaches that hard work, faithfulness, sobriety, and duty are all "white things" that must just come with the genes.

Is it any wonder why it feels like everything's failing? We stopped trying to succeed, all because we've bought the lie that success is "racist".

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 08:41 PM (fVubI)

422 I think part of the problem is that we've lost role models for healthy masculinity, and instead we get soyboys or thugs.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 19, 2018 08:41 PM (Tnhbr)

423 Yeah, no. I'd rather pay someone who knows what he's doing than wing it and risk burning my house down.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 08:27 PM (sdi6R)]/i]

Fair enough, but it really is analogous to water flow.

Now, electric wiring really is different on Navy ships - there is no neutral (white wire) - black and white each have ~60 volts out of phase from each other instead of 115/120 on one and 0 on the other, so you have power on both instead of just one. It has to do with how the power is generated (3-phase) on the ships.

Ground is still ground, though.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 08:42 PM (39d8a)

424 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:41 PM (YqDXo)

This was with the engine off, as was running through the gears. Once they had the hang of the footwork, and of running through the gears, THEN we fired up the engine.

No problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:42 PM (YqDXo)

425 shit

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 08:42 PM (39d8a)

426 our enlightened betters want to revive the glory days of the Italian, Jewish, and Irish mafias or the Hell's Angels, they certainly seem to be doing their best to make that their biggest Unintended Consequence.

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this would make the toxic cucksters bemoan the rise of nationalism or some such shit. They'll spend more time trying to break those gangs than to shut down grooming gangs and muhaammmeds

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:42 PM (DQC26)

427 My Dad told me a story of him and a cousin going out shooting with the same gun. His cousin was shocked enough by the recoil that he started to bring the barrel to his face. My grandfather evidently jumped over several logs to knock the gun down.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 08:38 PM (OoaOv)

My friends papa was missing an arm from climbing a fence as a boy on the farm with a loaded shotgun. His arm didn't reach his elbow. I remember this story and treat firearms with respect.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:42 PM (QG/kl)

428 Sorry, but that made me laugh. That sounds like something a dad would do.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:37 PM (QG/kl)

LOL, I returned the favor when I taught my husband to drive a stick. Funniest thing ever.

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2018 08:43 PM (CAKgV)

429 Bander, you don't see side kicks because, almost to a man, the guys in UFC are fighting out of a boxer's stance. They would have to shift then through the side kick. Too much time.

They can get away with the boxers stance because no groin tecniques allowed.

And don't even get me started on the parts of there feet they strike with when they kick.

At it's core, UFC is a sport.

The guys are tough. Many know some good joint locks and a few, like the Gracies, are good at breaking your timing enough to get inside and go anaconda on you.

But even Royce lost his first fight just the way I said he would.

Posted by: teej at March 19, 2018 08:43 PM (ZCD4H)

430 Oh, and I'll admit I was a weeping pussy the first time I handled a gun, and I wasn't exactly a kid at the time.

But I grew up. And I'm not proud of the way I acted that first time.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 08:43 PM (fVubI)

431 413
Elliot Carlin was one of the best TV characters that will ever be.
Posted by: Soothsayer Is Going There at March 19, 2018 08:39 PM (v2bko)

Offhand, the only comparable occasional supporting actor I can think of I Angel Martin.

Posted by: George LeS at March 19, 2018 08:43 PM (+TcCF)

432

Wow you guys weren't kidding. They made lots of episodes of Star Wars with space creatures that "feed off" fear, terror, and hate.

It's almost like they were trying to tell the viewers something...

Posted by: Soothsayer Is Going There at March 19, 2018 08:43 PM (v2bko)

433
Taught our two kids to drive stick as both of our cars were just that. "We're not getting an automatic?" they whined. "Nope, 'cause that would be buying YOU a car and I ain't buying you a car."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 19, 2018 08:43 PM (pNxlR)

434 bonhomme, that's a solid approach to introducing newbies to the eeeevil of skeery guns. Pretty similar to my approach. One key thing some don't think through, if they're learnin' up their first batch of rookies, is to do a thorough familiarization session at home first. Ranges are obviously a very bad place to do it - noise, ear protection, possibly higher adrenaline, distraction, etc.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 19, 2018 08:43 PM (QDnY+)

435 421 For essentially all of human history, science fiction writer John Scalzi has memorably written, if you have been born a straight white male, it is as if you are playing a computer game called "The Real World" with the difficulty set on the lowest level.

Scalzi is a weeping infected sore on a leper's taint.

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Scalzi is the poster boy for toxic cuckoldry.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:44 PM (DQC26)

436 This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Barky, the boy President

You were a good sport, though, cheering from the sidelines as your wife dismantled the opposition in the White House Turkey day football game.

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2018 08:44 PM (rdU0H)

437 "But we're now at the point where you cannot say "There's nothing wrong
with boys." We said that, of course, for 50 years of girls, encouraging them to be more daring, aggressive, and adventurous, but for the boys, our society can only say: Be like good girls." Ace

Yeppers. In elementary schools that are 90% libchicks. Little boys gets screamed at on Water Play Day for calling a squirt bottle a water gun. I shit you not.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 19, 2018 08:44 PM (o7tuA)

438 I think part of the problem is that we've lost role models for healthy masculinity, and instead we get soyboys or thugs.

A more succinct way of saying what I did. Though I'll add that it was PURPOSEFUL, the removal of all the positive role models.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 08:44 PM (fVubI)

439 Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 08:41 PM (fVubI)

This.

Shorter version: a straight white male was expected to come back with his shield, or on it. Failing to provide for his family - or worse, abandoning his family, ghetto style - was infamia.

He was expected to do the right thing - the expected thing - regardless of the consequences to him. That's a tougher standard than ANY other demographic had. Which is why straight white males have contributed so much more to society.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:46 PM (YqDXo)

440 Ah shit, this is Will Leitch? Fuck, I actually know Will. I knew he was left leaning but didn't think he was such a soft cuck.

Another fatality of the culture war, I guess.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at March 19, 2018 08:46 PM (l1lYR)

441 Two things:
First, I was always fascinated by guys as a kid. But they scared the hell out of me too. The first time holding a loaded pistol...my heart was beating a mile a minute. But I knew the basics of gun safety, I wasn't doing anything stupid and I had a friend with me who knew more about guns. The fear went away with time, use and familiarity. The awe never left me. Guns are power. That's why I won't give them up, ever.

Second, when I was still thinking I'd be a father someday and have sons and daughters, I'd resolved to raise them to be the biggest ninja badasses there were. Without being too much of a dick towards them. Would I have managed that? Well...due to bad decisions, I guess I'll never know. I might have been a lousy dad. But I'd have been a damn sight better than Will Leitch and his dad.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (xJa6I)

442 421
Is it any wonder why it feels like everything's failing? We stopped trying to succeed, all because we've bought the lie that success is "racist".
Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 08:41 PM (fVubI)

When "equality" becomes the most important value in a society, if you can't raise the bottom up, you have to push the top down. That's where we are now.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (sdi6R)

443 400 wooga I think there are quite a few people around here who can change a tire aside from military and Mexican day laborers. I don't think pussification is actually a central problem. Not sure exactly what is, and the populace is stunningly stupid on many things (obviously), but I don't see emasculation as a big factor.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 19, 2018 08:36 PM (QDnY+)

that TV commercial where the kid is calling Dad about changing a tire? And does not know what a tire Iron is?

That was a Failure on DAD's part...

He never should have let the kid get a damn license without knowing how to change a tire.

We Men have screwed up... we listened to Women about how we should act... for a couple of generations now...

And now there just are not that many MEN out there...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (NgKpN)

444 Ground is still ground, though.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer

Ground is still ground, though.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 08:42 PM (39d8a)

Ok, how do you ground a circuit on a ship?

Posted by: 2009Refugee at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (JyFLk)

445 Taught our two kids to drive stick as both of our cars were just that. "We're not getting an automatic?" they whined. "Nope, 'cause that would be buying YOU a car and I ain't buying you a car."
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 19, 2018 08:43 PM (pNxlR)

Try to find an automatic in Europe. Go ahead. Try.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (YqDXo)

446 Posted by: rhomboid at March 19, 2018 08:43 PM (QDnY+)

I've never been to a range. I think if you were new to shooting it would be intimidating.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (QG/kl)

447

Gee dad, your jizz tastes a lot better than Grandpa's!

Posted by: MFM Pussy Boy at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (4PAW9)

448 My Dad taught me how to close tags on AoSHQ!

Posted by: less-important lessons at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (nVNDV)

449 Good one there, ace. Kinda makes me proud to be a man. Snif. I think I need a drink.

Posted by: Eromero at March 19, 2018 08:48 PM (zLDYs)

450 438 I think part of the problem is that we've lost role models for healthy masculinity, and instead we get soyboys or thugs.

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well, it didn't help when our boomer cuck parents made it illegal to hire white men and now our whole party affiliation is basically one cuckerberg butt spasm away from banning us entirely.

Trump is NFSW and HR wants us to know our voting preferences for him are less tolerably than our on-the-job pr0n viewing habit.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:48 PM (DQC26)

451 Reminds me of the time when the chief bought out the bow and arrow and tried to teach us how to use it in case we had to fight the white eyes again. It was heap big scary!

Posted by: Elizabeth "Injun Liz" Warren at March 19, 2018 08:49 PM (O5Q3r)

452 It's funny that after reading through, I have to ask the 'Rons about something I said in class today. The kids were admiring the posters they'd made and two of the kids boasted that they got to hang quite a few after school.

I said, " That's because I can trust you not to do anything idiotic when my back was turned."

A boy interrupted with, "Why do you say 'idiotic'? Can't you just say 'bad'?"

I explained that no one did anything bad, but a couple kids tried idiotic things like moving a stool with a classmate still on it, and I caught one kid just before he tried to jump from a tabletop to a desk top (it had "accident report"written all over it. Most of the boys laughed, but that kid thought "idiotic" was mean and he had an attitude. (Suspect I will get an e-mail tonight.)

So my question is this: Do parents not use the word idiotic anymore to describe knuckleheaded things that kids do? Is this a trigger word?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 08:49 PM (G8B7r)

453 I practiced with a .357 magnum one time while visiting Maine. (When in Maine, do as the Mainers do.) There were a variety of other guns there, I know nothing about them, and I'd never fired a gun before, but I said, "Yeah, I've heard of a .357 magnum. Gimme that one." Much hilarity ensued. Pictures were taken. People ducked. I didn't kill anyone, accidentally or on purpose.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at March 19, 2018 08:49 PM (2NqXo)

454 I spent my formative years in a neighborhood immediately outside of Ft. Bragg. Every man on the street was Colonel Somebody, either active or retired. We all went to the local elementary school, Ponderosa on Bonanza Rd, with GI's kids. I only realized that this scenario was why everyone seems like a pussy to me. No one went home and complained of being a victim.

Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2018 08:49 PM (CAKgV)

455 I really enjoyed reading your post on this but didn't say so. You did awesome.
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 19, 2018 07:47 PM (3fxCO)

Thank you for saying so.

What I did not say is how I used the whole experience as a giant trust building exercise, an exercise in listening first, then acting, in impulse control, and acting responsibility with a view toward consequences of our actions.

He took to it all, with remarkable speed and diligence, and the results were well beyond my expectations and more than I gave him credit for.

Yeah, I am a pretty proud dad. And I make no excuses about it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 19, 2018 08:50 PM (Dp6qK)

456 Men are not welcome as elementary school teachers. yeah, i know. Wait...gay men are welcome so there's that.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 19, 2018 08:50 PM (o7tuA)

457 341 Does anyone remember back in the 90s all the narratives were about "it's ok for men to cry and show their feelings"

80's. I blame Alan Alda and Phil Donahue. They should've been relieved of their gonads.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 19, 2018 08:24 PM (O5Q3r)

Oh, honey- the '70's. Takes two generations to get it done.
"Free to be You and Me", "William's Doll", etc.

Posted by: Sal at March 19, 2018 08:50 PM (hA4a+)

458 421 For essentially all of human history, science fiction writer John Scalzi has memorably written, if you have been born a straight white male, it is as if you are playing a computer game called "The Real World" with the difficulty set on the lowest level.

Scalzi is a weeping infected sore on a leper's taint.

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right. easy mode. where most white places didn't have extensive welfare states outside of the church.

this is just cultural marxist insults.

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:50 PM (DQC26)

459 If our enlightened betters want to revive the glory days of the Italian, Jewish, and Irish mafias or the Hell's Angels, they certainly seem to be doing their best to make that their biggest Unintended Consequence.

Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2018 08:37 PM (eh0Va)

As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster..

Posted by: Ace's Real Childhood Dreams at March 19, 2018 08:50 PM (eh0Va)

460 that TV commercial where the kid is calling Dad about changing a tire? And does not know what a tire Iron is?

Hell, that kid is a paragon of manhood compared to the one who stands there with his finger up his ass while Mommy gushes about having to send out a guy paid by an insurance company to change her faggot son's tire while her son and his boyfriend look on lugubriously.

"What? You're out in the boonies, and have a flat tire? Then, son, you better remember how I told you to change a tire, or you've got some serious hiking in your future." Click. Dial tone.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:50 PM (YqDXo)

461 Started with .22's in summer camp when I was 7. Shooting is just immediately fun. Dad used to compete and was good in the Marines, but was always too busy after we were born trying to make ends meet.

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2018 08:50 PM (7R/qA)

462 Gun thread? recommendation for a 22 target pistol?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 19, 2018 08:51 PM (o7tuA)

463 So my question is this: Do parents not use the word idiotic anymore to describe knuckleheaded things that kids do? Is this a trigger word?

We're expected to respect idiots these days. Look at the clowns the put forward as "experts".

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 08:52 PM (fVubI)

464 A boy interrupted with, "Why do you say 'idiotic'? Can't you just say 'bad'?"

"You're right. I meant to say "fucking idiotic."

I stand corrected.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:52 PM (YqDXo)

465 462 Gun thread? recommendation for a 22 target pistol?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

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yeah, use a ma-duece. manly! mannnnnn!!!

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:52 PM (DQC26)

466 462. Ruger makes good little .22 target pistols. Go for fixed sights and a bull barrel.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:52 PM (fA1SL)

467 For those who don't know, Will was the founder of Deadspin. It might be hard to believe given what a soy boy he sounds like in this article, but Deadspin didn't go full leftist retard until Will stepped down and handpicked Nick Denton coprophage AJ Daulerio took over.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at March 19, 2018 08:52 PM (l1lYR)

468 that TV commercial where the kid is calling Dad about changing a tire? And does not know what a tire Iron is?

That was a Failure on DAD's part...

He never should have let the kid get a damn license without knowing how to change a tire.

We Men have screwed up... we listened to Women about how we should act... for a couple of generations now...

And now there just are not that many MEN out there...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (NgKpN)

The commercial is even worse, the smug mom with the loser son relishing in the fact that she could get a tow truck out to change her son's tire. 3 nearly adult males, none of whom understand the most basic automotive repair and maintenance. Yes, adult males, none of them deserve the title MAN.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at March 19, 2018 08:52 PM (DxWUs)

469 So my question is this: Do parents not use the word idiotic anymore to describe knuckleheaded things that kids do? Is this a trigger word?
Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 08:49 PM (G8B7r)

Imagine if you'd said "retarded" instead.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 08:53 PM (NWiLs)

470
I've never been to a range. I think if you were new to shooting it would be intimidating.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (QG/kl)

It was for me. When I took my CC class and it came to the shoting part, I was freaking out on the range. It was an indoor range and the casings from the guy next to me were flying in front of my face. There must have been 20 of on the range at the same time. The instructor let me come in by myself and pass the shooting part.

Posted by: Infidel at March 19, 2018 08:53 PM (a3OL0)

471 My Dad could not drive an automatic. He tried several times, but he always felt safer (and drove a lot better) in a stick.

Posted by: Surfperch at March 19, 2018 08:53 PM (H+7tw)

472 o my question is this: Do parents not use the word idiotic anymore to describe knuckleheaded things that kids do? Is this a trigger word?
Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 08:49 PM (G8B7r)

You could have used the word moronic.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:53 PM (QG/kl)

473 I always just assume that these commies always just make these stupid stories up.

Posted by: TexasJew at March 19, 2018 08:53 PM (c+cGk)

474 of us.

Posted by: Infidel at March 19, 2018 08:54 PM (a3OL0)

475 466
462. Ruger makes good little .22 target pistols. Go for fixed sights and a bull barrel.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:52 PM (fA1SL)

thanks Palp, and no I did no get the Kel tec sub 2000 yet. thanks for not asking.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 19, 2018 08:54 PM (o7tuA)

476 We sat William down and explained that he needed to be good to people, that he needed to be kind, and patient, and gentle. Treat everyone the way you would like to be treated.

Like when I sat my son down and told him I would kick his ass, even if I had to hobble out of a wheelchair to do it, if he even knelt for the flag.

I'm raising my daughter to be more of a man than this guy is his son.

Posted by: Keith at March 19, 2018 08:54 PM (USf3s)

477 I've never been to a range. I think if you were new to shooting it would be intimidating.
Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (QG/kl)

Not at all...let the staff know it's your first time out and the RO (range officer) should show you the ropes and give you a quick safety check while you get the hang of things. Ask questions and have fun!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 19, 2018 08:55 PM (EoRCO)

478 472 o my question is this: Do parents not use the word idiotic anymore to describe knuckleheaded things that kids do? Is this a trigger word?
Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 08:49 PM (G8B7r)

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next time just use "christian blue collar white male"

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 08:55 PM (DQC26)

479 471
My Dad could not drive an automatic. He tried several times, but he always felt safer (and drove a lot better) in a stick.

Posted by: Surfperch at March 19, 2018 08:53 PM (H+7tw)

Automatic cars should be banned!! They can go really fast!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 19, 2018 08:55 PM (o7tuA)

480 In the future:

"Dad, can you teach me how to shave?"

"Sure, son. First, you put one foot on the edge of the tub and lather up your leg..."

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 19, 2018 08:55 PM (Tnhbr)

481 475. Get good with the Ruger. Use those skills to get the Kel Tec. With those in hand, get yourself some transport.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:55 PM (fA1SL)

482 t was for me. When I took my CC class and it came to the shoting part, I was freaking out on the range. It was an indoor range and the casings from the guy next to me were flying in front of my face. There must have been 20 of on the range at the same time. The instructor let me come in by myself and pass the shooting part.
Posted by: Infidel at March 19, 2018 08:53 PM (a3OL0)

My mother goes to a range. She likes shooting on the ranch better. She says it's not as loud and she doesn't feel intimidated by the other people when she's shooting a new or someone else's gun.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:55 PM (QG/kl)

483 Oh, honey- the '70's. "

Jonathan Livingston Seagull...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 19, 2018 08:55 PM (7LY+6)

484 The commercial is even worse, the smug mom with the loser son relishing in the fact that she could get a tow truck out to change her son's tire. 3 nearly adult males, none of whom understand the most basic automotive repair and maintenance. Yes, adult males, none of them deserve the title MAN.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at March 19, 2018 08:52 PM (DxWUs)

THAT'S the one I was thinking of. I'd have cuffed junior upside the head for being a pussy.

Hell, I've changed more tires for other people than I've ever changed for myself.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 08:55 PM (YqDXo)

485 Electrical wiring made more sense to me after I related it to plumbing. Hot/positive wire is the pressurized pipe feeding the system. Neutral wire is the drain. And ground is emergency overflow. Still keep my book with diagrams near by If I'm ever in doubt or have to wire 3 or 4 way switches.

Posted by: X-ray at March 19, 2018 08:56 PM (4fiCC)

486 How do you ground a circuit on a ship?

Psted by: 2009Refugee at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (JyFLk)

Straight to the hull - ground is all around you.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 08:56 PM (39d8a)

487 479 471
My Dad could not drive an automatic. He tried several times, but he always felt safer (and drove a lot better) in a stick.

Posted by: Surfperch at March 19, 2018 08:53 PM (H+7tw)

Automatic cars should be banned!! They can go really fast!!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 19, 2018 08:55 PM (o7tuA)

I had to factory order my stick shift Camaro a few years ago....

Posted by: Don Q. at March 19, 2018 08:56 PM (NgKpN)

488 Does anyone actually believe that the author Will Leitch actually experienced this? Sounds like a made for TV movie of someone with a real pussy for a father and grew up to be a fag. A 20 gauge shotgun with a tremendous kick? Come on, a 20 gauge doesn't have much more of a kick than a 410! Liberals are such lying poofs.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at March 19, 2018 08:56 PM (9BLnV)

489 right. easy mode. where most white places didn't have extensive welfare states outside of the church.

THERE WAS NO WELFARE STATE.

You know why Fred and Barney were so intent on joining the Loyal Waterbuffaloes? Because that kind of association formed one of the forms of social support available. Guys got together and between the partying and stupid hats and networking, they'd pass the hat to help old-so-and-so, who got sick, lost his job, and needs help to keep his house. Then, once old-so-and-so was back on his feet, he'd turn around and chip in for the next guy.

Churches did it, too, but weren't as picky about who they helped so weren't as reliable.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 08:56 PM (fVubI)

490 The stunning call for the state's top prosecutor to investigate Manhattan's top prosecutor came after actresses such as Jessica Chastain, Reese Witherspoon, Alyssa Milano and Julianne Moore endorsed a letter to Cuomo asking him "to launch an independent investigation" of Vance.

The letter, written by the advocacy group Time's Up, demanded an inquiry into Vance's decision to not bring charges against Weinstein in 2015 for groping an Italian model, Ambra Battilana.

Posted by: SMOD at March 19, 2018 08:57 PM (e8kgV)

491 The only time I was scarred changing a tire was a split rim. Made 6 yo kidlet stand far away.

Posted by: Infidel at March 19, 2018 08:57 PM (a3OL0)

492 First gun I ever fired Was a friend's .22 pistol. Fired off a mag at a tin can and missed every shot, IIRC.

The next time I shot a gun it was with my new rifle, a .50 percussion carbine that I built from a kit.

The next gun I owned, and the one I tend to consider my real first gun, was the .50 flintlock I built from a chunk of wood, a barrel, a lock kit, and some other parts. I did have someone to show me how to do it.

Didn't own a breech-loader until Obama came along and I thought it advisable to acquire one, in the a very ugly, beat-up, and totally awesome Indian-made SMLE.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 19, 2018 08:57 PM (bZ7mE)

493 The commercial is even worse, the smug mom with the loser son relishing in the fact that she could get a tow truck out to change her son's tire. 3 nearly adult males, none of whom understand the most basic automotive repair and maintenance. Yes, adult males, none of them deserve the title MAN.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at March 19, 2018 08:52 PM (DxWUs)

My millennial brother in law, a good guy really, in his early 20s changed a spare tire and left the flat-rim and all-on the side of the road because he though it was disposable.

Posted by: Keith at March 19, 2018 08:58 PM (USf3s)

494 481
475. Get good with the Ruger. Use those skills to get the Kel Tec. With those in hand, get yourself some transport.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:55 PM (fA1SL)

Lol. I carry a glock 9mm. glock 23 by the bed. But i would like to practice draw-shoot a lot and its easier and cheaper with a 22 at first. Maybe get something that mimics the glock though. thanks!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 19, 2018 08:58 PM (o7tuA)

495 Daughter is going on her first hunting trip with dad this summer. It will be low key and safe but I'm so excited for her and really for him too. Such a wonderful bonding experience.

Posted by: IC at March 19, 2018 08:58 PM (gcme+)

496 Masculinity - Proper Training

Grandson the Elder (age 7) is in his first year of Rough Guy School. Got him an electric dirt bike 2 weekends past at a charity auction. Max speed is 14 mph. He wanted me to get the electric plastic F-150. "No. The bike has real tires," I told him.

"But I can't ride a bike with 2 wheels, yet," he protested.

"You will," I answered.

Ordered him a helmet and gloves. He did fine, if a bit wobbly at first. Now, I can't keep it charged enough.

We'vs already discussed how to make it faster and have plans for a dirt track (including jump ramp) out back.

Today he dumped it in the gravel driveway. "You okay?"

Shrugged as he rubbed his knee. "Are your jeans torn? Are you bleeding?" Shook his head. "Then you're not hurt. Try it again!"

Air rifle, then .22 when it warms up and dries out. Some fieldcraft, too, this summer.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at March 19, 2018 08:59 PM (di1hb)

497 477 I've never been to a range. I think if you were new to shooting it would be intimidating.
Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (QG/kl)

Not at all...let the staff know it's your first time out and the RO (range officer) should show you the ropes and give you a quick safety check while you get the hang of things. Ask questions and have fun!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 19, 2018 08:55 PM (EoRCO)

Yeah, I'm by no means an expert, but in my experience most gun ranges will bend over backwards to make newbies feel comfortable.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 08:59 PM (sdi6R)

498 I have this vague recollection that it was diGenova that said we could trust Comey because he was a straight shooter?

Could not find a working link (memory hole effect)?

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at March 19, 2018 08:59 PM (n9EOP)

499 All my children learn to drive a stick, it's not an option.

It's a bit embarrassing at first - I teach 1st gear move the car from start over and over and over again - but once they get that it's easy.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 09:00 PM (39d8a)

500 494. Aren't there .22 lr kits for glocks?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:00 PM (fA1SL)

501 We sat William down and explained that he needed to be good to people, that he needed to be kind, and patient, and gentle. Treat everyone the way you would like to be treated.

William? William? Now that's how we know he's going to turn out a fag.

A liberal acquaintance has a son in his mid-30s who lives in a room in a house and works as a barista after dropping out of a succession of jucos. The son too stresses being "kind," "patient," and "gentle," but I see through him: it's a defense against being characterized as a loser. He's basically Peter Pan, a fail-to-launch kid drifting ass-first through life, without enough ambition, drive, or perseverance to accomplish anything.

You can be as kind as you like, Timmy, but in my eyes you're a grade A loser. Get your finger out of your ass and make something - anything - of yourself.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:00 PM (YqDXo)

502 Ruger makes good little .22 target pistols. Go for fixed sights and a bull barrel.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:52 PM

Cannibal, look for the newer Mk. IV pistols. The earlier ones can be, ah, difficult to reassemble.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 19, 2018 09:00 PM (DMUuz)

503 332 BTW he's identified as a "japanese pro wrestler," I guess in that big japanese pro wrestling league, and not a judokka per se, but, come on, it's Japan, wrestling over there must be 90% judo.

Posted by: Ace in Confessional Mode at March 19, 2018 08:22 PM (8rNrN)

No ace, their pro wrestling is just like our pro wrestling. I think the guy Ali faced did have some legit wrestling martial arts background though. And there were a bunch of rules laid out for that match, which is why he always went to ground and would only do kicks.

Posted by: buzzion at March 19, 2018 09:00 PM (lKs2v)

504 Dude is scared to death of being a man.

Posted by: jsg at March 19, 2018 09:01 PM (l+e88)

505 I think part of the problem is that we've lost role models for healthy masculinity, and instead we get soyboys or thugs.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 19, 2018 08:41 PM (Tnhbr)

When over half of the boys in the country are being raised in single households headed up by a female, with mostly female aunts, etc. and the continued demise of male only , masculine type of activities that could help fill in positive male role models( the old Boy Scouts comes to mind, which is now a social justice progressive indoctrination program), it's no wonder boys are becoming either of the above.

The thug life is males trying to create their own male hierarchy when they have no positive examples. The Soyboys are truly a product of women only households where men are not liked and son's are not encouraged to resemble them.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 19, 2018 09:01 PM (m0lmR)

506 500
494. Aren't there .22 lr kits for glocks?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:00 PM (fA1SL)

Huh...off to google.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 19, 2018 09:01 PM (o7tuA)

507 bonhomme, that's a solid approach to introducing newbies to the eeeevil of skeery guns.

Thanks.

One key thing some don't think through, if they're learnin' up their first batch of rookies, is to do a thorough familiarization session at home first. Ranges are obviously a very bad place to do it - noise, ear protection, possibly higher adrenaline, distraction, etc.

My one bullet to start rule is because of an incident that happened in Bellevue, WA at a range I used to frequent. A guy took a girl on a date to the range. She was a newbie. He rented a .44 Magnum and handed it to her. He was standing behind her, to her side slightly.

Her first shot's recoil put the gun straight up into the air. She panicked and kept squeezing. Shot number two went into the ceiling, putting the gun's barrel right at the guy's head. Unfortunately, she pulled the trigger a third time.

News story here: https://preview.tinyurl.com/7886f8z

That's also the reason I get a large frame 9mm. The recoil is fairly easy to handle.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 19, 2018 09:01 PM (zGsgt)

508 The commercial is even worse, the smug mom with the loser son relishing in the fact that she could get a tow truck out to change her son's tire.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at March 19, 2018 08:52 PM (DxWUs)

Notice DAD is not in the picture.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:01 PM (YqDXo)

509 494 481
475. Get good with the Ruger. Use those skills to get the Kel Tec. With those in hand, get yourself some transport.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 08:55 PM (fA1SL)

Lol. I carry a glock 9mm. glock 23 by the bed. But i would like to practice draw-shoot a lot and its easier and cheaper with a 22 at first. Maybe get something that mimics the glock though. thanks!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 19, 2018 08:58 PM (o7tuA)

.22 conversion kit for the 9mm?

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at March 19, 2018 09:02 PM (di1hb)

510 Here is the electrical wiring book I use. I think it is very helpful.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9jnome8

Posted by: X-ray at March 19, 2018 09:02 PM (4fiCC)

511 Son-in-law came to town to do a short film for GE. Needed two kids for the backstory and hired his nephew. Mom came along, of course.

The other kid was too big for the borrowed bike, so Sissy just walked down the street til she found some guys working in their garage, borrowed a wrench, and raised the seat on the bike.

The camera guy was like "Wait, what? How did you do that?'

"it's Texas- we help each other out."

"Yeah- I'm from New York City. I don't even own any tools."

Posted by: Sal at March 19, 2018 09:02 PM (hA4a+)

512 Elliot Carlin was one of the best TV characters that will ever be.

Posted by: Soothsayer Is Going There at March 19, 2018 08:39 PM (v2bko)

Yes he was. I loved when he showed up in the 80s Newhart Show at a therapist's office. He insults Newhart and the therapist says to excuse him but it's taken her years to undo the damage caused by some quack in Chicago.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 09:03 PM (SiINZ)

513 Just make sure all your black wires and white wires match up after you are done. Green and bare wires should all be together too. It's all flow.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 08:24 PM (39d8a)

There are some exceptions to that rule but it will serve you well for the most part.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 19, 2018 09:03 PM (IuYIh)

514 a single tear shed is fine.
but only if it's been 5 years since the last.

and just one tear!

Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2018 09:03 PM (N0sw0)

515 Notice DAD is not in the picture."

They're only showing what matters...

To them.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 19, 2018 09:03 PM (7LY+6)

516 504 Dude is scared to death of being a man.
Posted by: jsg at March 19, 2018 09:01 PM (l+e8

He's got nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:03 PM (YqDXo)

517 "No ace, their pro wrestling is just like our pro wrestling. I think the guy Ali faced did have some legit wrestling martial arts background though. And there were a bunch of rules laid out for that match, which is why he always went to ground and would only do kicks.

Posted by: buzzion at March 19, 2018 09:00 PM (lKs2v) "

IIRC Ali vs. Inoki was a complete 'work,' in the parlance of the business. People have claimed it was straight up, but I'm not sure I buy it. Wrestling is a business built on a foundation of bullshit - it takes very strong evidence to convince me that anything is really a 'shoot.'

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at March 19, 2018 09:04 PM (icI8A)

518 News story here: https://preview.tinyurl.com/7886f8z

That's also the reason I get a large frame 9mm. The recoil is fairly easy to handle.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 19, 2018 09:01 PM (zGsgt)

That really freaks me out. How horrible.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 09:04 PM (QG/kl)

519 Marva was a waitress I worked with in 1975 when I was a teen. She was a widow, and had her son teach her to shoot her shotgun properly after she dislocated her shoulder trying to shoot a mole the way her husband had. She took me up to her place one day after work and said, "every woman needs to know how to shoot a gun safely", so we shot at targets the rest of the afternoon. My Dad and brothers were hunters, but my Mom hated guns, so my sisters and I were taught to be afraid of guns. Shooting with Marva taught me to respect guns, but also taught me that being afraid of them was stupid. Now I shoot in the Ladies League at my gun club, and I'm not the worst shot there, either.

It's not just men that are harmed by this weakling-is-good attitude, women are too. Strong women love strong, reliable, men. Weak and fearful women seek weaker men -- and lose when their men prove to be too weak-minded to manage life.

Posted by: Not Huey R. at March 19, 2018 09:04 PM (hOtJL)

520 need to end the scourge of toxic cuckoldry and the menace of soy

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 09:04 PM (DQC26)

521 Yeah the Ali/Inoki match had a bunch of rules laid out by Ali's people. Inoki was forbidden from doing suplexes, throws or submissions.

https://youtu.be/OUbCCDmZP1M

Posted by: buzzion at March 19, 2018 09:04 PM (lKs2v)

522 Jim Shooter predicted the future of media way back in 1980 or whatever.
Posted by: ace

I would've sworn "Threat or Menace" harked back to the Lee-Ditko days, but it's been a few years so mem mymory might be fuzzy.

Posted by: mindful webworker - comically at March 19, 2018 09:04 PM (TUUTu)

523 Cannibal Bob, Ruger 22-45 with a bull barrel or in the 'Lite' version, which has a threaded barrel. For....'add-ons'.....

Posted by: Eromero at March 19, 2018 09:04 PM (zLDYs)

524 Cannibal, look for the newer Mk. IV pistols. The earlier ones can be, ah, difficult to reassemble.

I have a dowel and a mallet set aside specifically for my Mk. III.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 09:05 PM (fVubI)

525 was the .50 flintlock I built from a chunk of wood, a barrel, a lock kit, and some other parts.

A brother-in-law does that, Kentucky (well, Pennsylvania) rifles. It can take him several years to do one (you know, with a bunch of kids, a job, and a life).

Someday. It's impressive.

Posted by: t-bird at March 19, 2018 09:05 PM (xDk+1)

526 We convinced ourselves that our country was messed up and we needed to apologize for it to the world.

Then we tried to figure out how we failed and came up with all sorts of false reasons.

Reservoirs of wisdom and patience have been poisoned and are of no use.

The blame has been shifted to a group that does not deserve to be blamed and the cures are poisonous and deadly.

We are headed for chaos and death if we don't stop this nonsense.

Trump is showing the way but there's too many drowning out his message or distorting it so as to prevent it's spread.

PC is the biggest killer as it's a lie that poisons ones sense of what it real, Feminism is the next as it distorts the relationship between men and women.

All this is spewing out from our entertainment sources.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 19, 2018 09:05 PM (MioLM)

527 IIRC Ali vs. Inoki was a complete 'work,' in the parlance of the business. People have claimed it was straight up, but I'm not sure I buy it. Wrestling is a business built on a foundation of bullshit - it takes very strong evidence to convince me that anything is really a 'shoot.'

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at March 19, 2018 09:04 PM (icI8A)

Well it obviously wasn't a shoot. Otherwise there wouldn't have been those rules in place.

Posted by: buzzion at March 19, 2018 09:05 PM (lKs2v)

528 But did his dad teach him how to hang shelves? That's the real test.

Posted by: Keith at March 19, 2018 09:06 PM (USf3s)

529 486 How do you ground a circuit on a ship?

Psted by: 2009Refugee at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (JyFLk)

Straight to the hull - ground is all around you.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 08:56 PM (39d8a)

The danger is that every other wire has voltage (and current) and that if *you* make a circuit to ground it could be the end of you.

Everything...*everything*... has its chassis grounded with a strap in addition to just being bolted down.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 09:06 PM (39d8a)

530 When "equality" becomes the most important value in a society, if you can't raise the bottom up, you have to push the top down. That's where we are now.
Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (sdi6R)

That is why you raise your kids as you see fit. Not how the state wants them to be, or how the public school thinks you should. The way you see fit.

Make your sons men. Make your girls ladies. Spines of steel, rooted in God, the rule of law, and morality. No matter what.

If that doesn't work, smack them with the sharp corners of the family Bible.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:06 PM (NXsWM)

531 Poor Cannibal Bob - stuck with not one but two plastic pistols, neither of which fires .45 or 7.62 Tok. Things like this should make us all pause and reflect and remember the great sadness that is life in this vail of tears

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:06 PM (fA1SL)

532 While you read all about Cambridge Analytica, don't forget Eric Schmidt-backed data science startup Civis Analytics, a company founded by the chief analytics officer of Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign.

Posted by: SMOD at March 19, 2018 09:06 PM (e8kgV)

533 That's also the reason I get a large frame 9mm. The recoil is fairly easy to handle.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 19, 2018 09:01 PM (zGsgt)

Geez. That is a sad story. I'd make a joke about not wanting to go on a third date, but she probably tore herself up over that one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:06 PM (OoaOv)

534 jeebus bonhomme, that's a horrific story about the shooting range incident.

My new indoor range has one or more ROs out on the line at all times, and they focus very clearly on the newbies, people with rentals, etc. Makes me feel better. Though I still try to go when it's empty or nearly so.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 19, 2018 09:06 PM (QDnY+)

535 Once this narrative had reached its zenith, there inevitably
followed articles by the women asking "Where have all the REAL men gone."
-------
Moslem men and Mexican illegals will fix that.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 19, 2018 09:06 PM (ewxPW)

536 .22 conversion kit for the 9mm?

Can a 9mm handle that much pressure?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 09:07 PM (fVubI)

537 Huh...off to google.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 19, 2018 09:01 PM (o7tuA)

With the price and reliability issues, you'd be better off with the ruger.

Mk IV, or Mk IV 22/45 if the grip angle of the regular doesn't suit you, would be a great option.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 19, 2018 09:07 PM (Dp6qK)

538 As God is my witness, I thought Richard Harris could fly.
I had to listen to JL Seagull in 5th and 8th grade, I think. IT WAS MAWNNING! Then I went to sleep.
Oddly, his voice sounds like scotch smells.

Posted by: Burger Chef at March 19, 2018 09:07 PM (RuIsu)

539 530 When "equality" becomes the most important value in a society, if you can't raise the bottom up, you have to push the top down. That's where we are now.
Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (sdi6R)

---

it's one thing to do it because there's a nice 10% minority living here. It's another thing when the goal is to import everyone on earth and make them equal by holding down the. yuck. native stock

Posted by: Chaos! At the White House at March 19, 2018 09:07 PM (DQC26)

540 528 But did his dad teach him how to hang shelves? That's the real test.
Posted by: Keith at March 19, 2018 09:06 PM (USf3s)

Ace's shelves are rodeo shelves.

They only have to stay on the wall for 8 seconds, after which they can be declared winners.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:08 PM (NXsWM)

541 Funny thing is, even though wrestling made Vince a billionaire, he's actually got more of a chubby for boxing (His pops and grandfather were both boxing promoters, though Vince Sr quickly moved to wrestling) He's booked multiple boxers to beat wrestlers in worked matches, and let one of his up and comers get creamed in a legit boxing match by Butterbean, which completely killed his push at the time.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at March 19, 2018 09:08 PM (icI8A)

542 I have this vague recollection that it was diGenova that said we could trust Comey because he was a straight shooter?

Could not find a working link (memory hole effect)?
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at March 19, 2018 08:59 PM (n9EOP)

I'm not sure why this seems to be important to some people. diGenova is human like everyone else. He was fooled and rather than being like the others in the swamp, unable to adjust his opinion of someone to fit the facts presented, but rather defending to the death the idea that someone was something they weren't, diGenova is telling it like he currently sees it.

Here is the current Imprimis issue from Hillsdale that diGenova authored regarding the politicization of the FBI.https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-politicization-of-the-fbi/

Also, Conservative Treehouse has a full article today on how diGenova will be utilized by the Trump WH to describe the IG report , it's meaning and what indictments and their reasoning to the masses. His use won't be to direct the WH in how to prosecute, but in how to educate the public.

Also,

Posted by: Jen the original at March 19, 2018 09:08 PM (m0lmR)

543 here are some exceptions to that rule but it will serve you well for the most part.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 19, 2018 09:03 PM (IuYIh)

There are exceptions to every rule. You just have to recognize when you are in one.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 09:08 PM (39d8a)

544 469 So my question is this: Do parents not use the word idiotic anymore to describe knuckleheaded things that kids do? Is this a trigger word?
Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 08:49 PM (G8B7r)

Imagine if you'd said "retarded" instead.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 08:53 PM

I've never been fired before. Also, between this and Deplorable Guevara 's comment, I spit my coffee back into the cup.

My students with learning disabilities are a pretty neat bunch, actually. One guy who never talks asked me if they could REALLY write a composition on ANYTHING. I said "school appropriate". His resource room teacher said he worked on it for three straight days, made different adults read it, and rewrote it for neatness. It was an essay on the best lures to use for different types of fish. He STILL doesn't talk in class, but he told his parents he likes my class.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 09:09 PM (G8B7r)

545 507
A guy took a girl on a date to the range. She was a newbie. He rented a .44 Magnum and handed it to her. He was standing behind her, to her side slightly.

Her first shot's recoil put the gun straight up into the air. She panicked and kept squeezing. Shot number two went into the ceiling, putting the gun's barrel right at the guy's head. Unfortunately, she pulled the trigger a third time.

News story here: https://preview.tinyurl.com/7886f8z

Posted by: bonhomme at March 19, 2018 09:01 PM (zGsgt)

I'm almost tempted to say it served him right. WHY would you give a newbie a .44 Magnum? That's incredibly stupid. Even if a tragedy didn't happen it would probably scare her off guns for life.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 09:09 PM (sdi6R)

546 When "equality" becomes the most important value in a society, if you can't raise the bottom up, you have to push the top down. That's where we are now.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (sdi6R)

Barry O: Bottoms and tops? Sounds like my kind of a party!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 09:09 PM (SiINZ)

547 I'll never forget the first time I shot a gun. The old man took me out and let me shoot his .22 pistol into a stump. I was 6. He carried that pistol as the member of a precision horse drill team. They rode alongside the Missouri Governor in parades, including the Cotton Bowl. Do you know how awesome that is to a 6 year old boy?

Second time I shot a gun was a 12 gauge shotgun with my mid 20's cousin when I was about 8. Knocked me on my ass, but holy shit was that fun!

About 15 years later his teenage daughter used that gun to protect herself and little sister at home in rural Oklahoma from a couple of fuckwits that broke out of the MacAlester prison. I'm sure they weren't going to rape and murder them or anything. One hauled ass, one took birdshot in the chest. He lived, but it was a close thing.

The little sister is now one of the better female three-gun competitors in the nation. Definitely wouldn't want to be the dudes that broke into her house now.......

I know it wasn't the point, but this thread brought back some great memories for me. The old man has been gone for close to 30 years, but I'll never forget that day shooting at that stump with him.

Posted by: DanInMN at March 19, 2018 09:09 PM (6Hvz5)

548 I'm almost tempted to say it served him right. WHY would you give a newbie a .44 Magnum? That's incredibly stupid. Even if a tragedy didn't happen it would probably scare her off guns for life.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 09:09 PM (sdi6R)

I wondered about that too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:10 PM (YqDXo)

549 When "equality" becomes the most important value in a society, if you can't raise the bottom up, you have to push the top down. That's where we are now.
Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM

Free men aren't equal. Equal men aren't free.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 19, 2018 09:10 PM (DMUuz)

550 "Well it obviously wasn't a shoot. Otherwise there wouldn't have been those rules in place.

Posted by: buzzion at March 19, 2018 09:05 PM (lKs2v) "

I mean, even shoot fights have rules. The rules may heavily favor one side - for example, boxing match I referenced above, Butterbean vs. Bart Gunn. Straight-up boxing rules obviously heavily favored the real boxer, and he proved it by murdering the toughman barroom fighter in about 30 seconds.

But I think even with the rules, Inoki/Ali was 80% work. The only thing that might have made it more of a shoot is the language barrier - harder to work a match if the two parties don't understand each other.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at March 19, 2018 09:11 PM (icI8A)

551 While you read all about Cambridge Analytica, don't forget Eric Schmidt-backed data science startup Civis Analytics, a company founded by the chief analytics officer of Barack Obama's 2012 re-election campaign.

I'm having a hard time getting upset over Trump's campaign doing what Obama's campaign bragged about in 2008 and 2012.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 09:11 PM (fVubI)

552 Mk IV, or Mk IV 22/45 if the grip angle of the regular doesn't suit you, would be a great option.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 19, 2018 09:07 PM (Dp6qK)

Speaking of being a man...

Get a MkII or earlier, disassemble it then try to reassemble. After cleaning my mkIII the first time I'm now running an unofficial torture test. Shot it until it stops functioning then perform the next full clean.

Posted by: Keith at March 19, 2018 09:11 PM (USf3s)

553 I'd never seen my father hang shelves, he'd never talked about hanging shelves, and I'd never seen a drill in the house before. But one day I came home from school, and Dad was home early, waiting for me with that drill. Time for you to learn this," he'd said"

Posted by: Obama waving from Martha's Vineyard at March 19, 2018 09:12 PM (H9C0v)

554 My mom taught me to drive a stick by putting me on hills and then laughing her ass off as I rolled and cried. True story.
Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2018 08:35 PM (CAKgV)

All the kids in my family as well as the children of both my brothers learned on a stick (other than driver's ed) and had a stick for a first car. Two of my nieces from my sister never learned as her husband was lazy. That's tough to do these days as few cars have a standard transmission any more.

Posted by: Bill R. at March 19, 2018 09:12 PM (IuYIh)

555 My Dad was a career soldier. Retired as an E-8 after 30 years. He was a hell of a pistol shot. I have a medal he won, encased in lucite, on my night stand, 2nd Army .45 cal Slow Fire champion Expert Division.

He used to take my out to an abandoned quarry to teach me to shoot when I was a pre-teen. One time I recall being amazed that I could see the bullet traveling down range. It was gold. I imagined the sun was reflecting off of it. Much later I realized it was tracer ammo.

I once gave him a model tank I had put together to shoot. I imagined it would make a hole in the plastic and look like battle damage. he asked if I was sure and then shot it with the .45. It disintegrated. I was thrilled.

He bought me a .22 J.C. Higgins when I was 12. We lived in a town of about 1250 people surrounded by farms. I spent many a day stalking anything and everything in the surround woods.

Idyllic.

I can't shoot a pistol worth a dam, but I was deadly with an M-60.

Posted by: Javems at March 19, 2018 09:12 PM (WC8Gu)

556 My dysfunctional masculinity is an inability to go for a fourth try when sober anymore, but I'm pushing fifty. So, I compensate by buying better wine and nicer hotel rooms.

Posted by: Jean at March 19, 2018 09:12 PM (MS0+a)

557 530 When "equality" becomes the most important value in a society, if you can't raise the bottom up, you have to push the top down. That's where we are now.
Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 08:47 PM (sdi6R)

It's worse than that. It's the Oprahfication of the culture, where the only people you can dump on with impunity are normal white males. They're the "toxic" ones; everyone else is wonderful, by definition, and should have pride of place.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:13 PM (YqDXo)

558 The wiring on navy vessels and the earlier commentor talking about the first Indian navy submarine made me remember a piece I had written talking about other nations trying to 'do' aircraft carriers.

The piece talked about not just the fact that it was a massively complex system, but rather a complex combination of large systems all having to work together. Everything has to be just right- or people die. The piece pointed out that this is a massive cultural issue in a lot of these places. 'Good enough' not being able to cut it (ex. the guy not closing a watertight door and flooding the sub.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:13 PM (OoaOv)

559 Does anyone actually believe that the author Will Leitch actually experienced this? Sounds like a made for TV movie of someone with a real pussy for a father and grew up to be a fag. A 20 gauge shotgun with a tremendous kick? Come on, a 20 gauge doesn't have much more of a kick than a 410! Liberals are such lying poofs.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at March 19, 2018 08:56 PM (9BLnV)

The article reminds me of Obama's fantasy story about the woman who relies on the government for everything from college tuition to health care.

Julia....

Posted by: Jen the original at March 19, 2018 09:14 PM (m0lmR)

560 A 20 gauge has about as much kick as a BB gun. My 12 yo shot one with scouts couple of months back and hit 2 of his first 5 clays, on his first 5 shots using shotgun ever. Aces premise that this guy and his dad are both pussies is difficult to refute.

Posted by: gm at March 19, 2018 09:14 PM (xJNP+)

561 542 Students these days feel qualified to stand in judgement of adults
Wonder where they learned that

Posted by: MAxIE at March 19, 2018 09:14 PM (9TR2V)

562 Unfortunately a lot of us never really had good examples set for us in the masculinity department. I had some traits modeled for me that were positive, but the single worst thing was that my mother was an emotional terrorist that kept my father cowed for years, and would treat him with utter disrespect and contempt right in front of me and my siblings. That left me fucked up in a number of ways, not the least of which was I learned that being treated that way is just the way it is and you simply have to tolerate it.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:14 PM (NWiLs)

563 I'm almost tempted to say it served him right. WHY would you give a newbie a .44 Magnum? That's incredibly stupid. Even if a tragedy didn't happen it would probably scare her off guns for life.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 09:09 PM (sdi6R)

I am wondering, considering the story, if it was a piece he used for concealed carry (small gun, huge recoil.) It was the gun he had and he wanted to demonstrate to her, but did not really think it through.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:15 PM (OoaOv)

564 536 .22 conversion kit for the 9mm?

Can a 9mm handle that much pressure?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 09:07 PM (fVubI)

The conversion kit replaces the slide, barrel, operating spring, and magazine.

.22 has less chamber pressure and recoil, so the replacement slide and operating spring are lighter.

Downside is it costs some pretty coin. Upside is it's dimensionally the same as the service configuration and you are shooting with the same trigger. Makes it very good for holster drills.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at March 19, 2018 09:15 PM (di1hb)

565 jeebus bonhomme, that's a horrific story about the shooting range incident.

I really hate that story, but I share it because I hope my one bullet rule for newbies catches on among shooters who might teach others.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 19, 2018 09:15 PM (zGsgt)

566 542 Students these days feel qualified to stand in judgement of adults
Wonder where they learned that
Posted by: MAxIE at March 19, 2018 09:14 PM (9TR2V)

Cambodia, 1975.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 19, 2018 09:15 PM (EoRCO)

567
Once this narrative had reached it's zenith, there inevitably followed articles by the women asking "Where have all the REAL men gone". They wanted boyfriends and husbands, not little boys who wanted the women to be their mommies.

Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2018 08:22 PM (eh0Va)

The Paolo: The Paolo is the real man that the womens all want

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 09:15 PM (SiINZ)

568 He used to take my out to an abandoned quarry to teach me to shoot when I was a pre-teen. One time I recall being amazed that I could see the bullet traveling down range. It was gold. I imagined the sun was reflecting off of it. Much later I realized it was tracer ammo.

At the right angle you can see .45 ball going down range on a sunny day. It is golden.

Posted by: Keith at March 19, 2018 09:16 PM (USf3s)

569 562. Yep. People forget how the things we learn in childhood - before the age of reason - are resistant to reason. Sucks. But you've managed so far.
* pours nespatnik a healthy one *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:16 PM (fA1SL)

570 553
I'd never seen my father hang shelves, he'd never talked about hanging
shelves, and I'd never seen a drill in the house before. But one day I
came home from school, and Dad was home early, waiting for me with that
drill. Time for you to learn this," he'd said"

Posted by: Obama waving from Martha's Vineyard at March 19, 2018 09:12 PM (H9C0v)
I showed him the Forward/Reverse switch. In one jug ear and out the other.

Posted by: Obama's Father at March 19, 2018 09:17 PM (djCea)

571 A guy took a girl on a date to the range. She was a newbie. He rented a .44 Magnum and handed it to her. He was standing behind her, to her side slightly.

Her first shot's recoil put the gun straight up into the air. She panicked and kept squeezing. Shot number two went into the ceiling, putting the gun's barrel right at the guy's head. Unfortunately, she pulled the trigger a third time.

News story here: https://preview.tinyurl.com/7886f8z

Posted by: bonhomme at March 19, 2018 09:01 PM (zGsgt)

I'm almost tempted to say it served him right. WHY would you give a newbie a .44 Magnum? That's incredibly stupid. Even if a tragedy didn't happen it would probably scare her off guns for life.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 09:09 PM (sdi6R)

Giving a .44 magnum to a newbie, especially a girl, is a total asshole move.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:17 PM (NWiLs)

572 I am one of the parents of a daughter that taught her to never start a fight but to always end them. Taught her how, too. Simple stuff, like how to rotate arms to block punches and how to then immediately jab, side kicks to the big thigh muscle and knee, etc.

Well, one day in early high school, another girl did start a fight, and she did what I taught her to do. My daughter was suspended for 5 days. The instigator was given nothing, as she got her ass kicked.

I immediately called the Principal of the school, and after a lengthy time on hold, was put through. I demanded that my daughter's suspension be immediately lifted, as she was the one reacting and was not the instigator of said incident. She replied "I can't do that! We have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to physical violence!". I was then invited in for a "meeting" about the "incident".

My reply? "The next time we will meet will be in Court with my attorney present to prosecute the lawsuit I will file against you personally, the school and the entire school district if this suspension is not immediately lifted, and my daughters record cleared of any wrongdoing. I need an answer right now, or my next call will be to my attorney".

Magically, the suspension was gone and no mention ever noted in her file. Worst part, this was in a VERY Conservative suburb in the NW Atlanta area.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 19, 2018 09:17 PM (0t14c)

573 About 15 years later his teenage daughter used that gun to protect herself and little sister at home in rural Oklahoma from a couple of fuckwits that broke out of the MacAlester prison. I'm sure they weren't going to rape and murder them or anything. One hauled ass, one took birdshot in the chest. He lived, but it was a close thing.

When I brought my European bride back to the US (in the Midwest) she came to understand the American gun thing. Fifteen minutes drive from a major city, and you're in the sticks. Another hour, with farmhouses every five miles or so, and you realize that if a couple of shitheads show up bent on mischief, you'd better be packing, unless you want to risk re-enacting "In Cold Blood."

Sure, you can call the sheriff. He may be on the other side of the county, though, and by the time he gets there, you might be approaching room temperature.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:17 PM (YqDXo)

574 Much later I realized it was tracer ammo.
-------
Did you have races between different calibres?

Posted by: andycanuck at March 19, 2018 09:17 PM (ewxPW)

575 So Nikolas Cruz's brother, Zachary, was arrested for trespassing at the same high school his brother shot up...weird.

Posted by: lin-duh at March 19, 2018 09:17 PM (kufk0)

576 554 My mom taught me to drive a stick by putting me on hills and then laughing her ass off as I rolled and cried. True story.
Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2018 08:35 PM (CAKgV)

All the kids in my family as well as the children of both my brothers learned on a stick (other than driver's ed) and had a stick for a first car. Two of my nieces from my sister never learned as her husband was lazy. That's tough to do these days as few cars have a standard transmission any more.
Posted by: Bill R. at March 19, 2018 09:12 PM (IuYIh)

My dad put me behind the wheel of the Ford Falcon station wagon (three on a tree, like a queen!), said "You've seen me do this, keep her between the ditches."

That was the sum total of my driving lessons.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:17 PM (NXsWM)

577 566 Students who start that shit with me get brushed back HARD
with love

Posted by: MAxIE at March 19, 2018 09:17 PM (9TR2V)

578 @544- Naughty Pine

That is one of thee best comments I have ever read here.

Thanks for what you do.

Posted by: teej at March 19, 2018 09:18 PM (ZCD4H)

579 I'm not all that experienced with guns myself, but if I was ever going to try to teach a newbie, I would start them out with a .22, regardless of whether they were a 100 lb. woman or a 240 lb. man. That's perfect for learning the basics without being intimidating.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 09:18 PM (sdi6R)

580 569 562. Yep. People forget how the things we learn in childhood - before the age of reason - are resistant to reason. Sucks. But you've managed so far.
* pours nespatnik a healthy one *
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:16 PM (fA1SL)

*drinks*

Managed, yes. But not very well.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:18 PM (NWiLs)

581 568
He used to take my out to an abandoned quarry to teach me to shoot when I
was a pre-teen. One time I recall being amazed that I could see the
bullet traveling down range. It was gold. I imagined the sun was
reflecting off of it. Much later I realized it was tracer ammo.

At the right angle you can see .45 ball going down range on a sunny day. It is golden.

Posted by: Keith at March 19, 2018 09:16 PM (USf3s)
--------------------------
I would rather that be the case.

Posted by: Javems at March 19, 2018 09:18 PM (WC8Gu)

582 580. Ya managed. That's enough most days. Anyone says different is a fool, or thinks you are one.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:19 PM (fA1SL)

583 575 So Nikolas Cruz's brother, Zachary, was arrested for trespassing at the same high school his brother shot up...weird.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 19, 2018 09:17 PM (kufk0)

Runs in the family I guess.

Posted by: Surfperch at March 19, 2018 09:20 PM (H+7tw)

584 my mother was an emotional terrorist that kept my father cowed for years, and would treat him with utter disrespect and contempt right in front of me and my siblings

There's your problem right there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:20 PM (YqDXo)

585 582 580. Ya managed. That's enough most days. Anyone says different is a fool, or thinks you are one.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:19 PM (fA1SL)

Seconded.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:20 PM (OoaOv)

586 583 575 So Nikolas Cruz's brother, Zachary, was arrested for trespassing at the same high school his brother shot up...weird.
Posted by: lin-duh at March 19, 2018 09:17 PM (kufk0)

Runs in the family I guess.
Posted by: Surfperch at March 19, 2018 09:20 PM (H+7tw)

Gregor Mendel surveys his pea plants, then nods.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:21 PM (YqDXo)

587 568 He used to take my out to an abandoned quarry to teach me to shoot when I was a pre-teen. One time I recall being amazed that I could see the bullet traveling down range. It was gold. I imagined the sun was reflecting off of it. Much later I realized it was tracer ammo.

At the right angle you can see .45 ball going down range on a sunny day. It is golden.
Posted by: Keith at March 19, 2018 09:16 PM (USf3s)

Indeed you can. I've watched 7.62 mm ball in a spotting scope going downrange. Picked 'em up at about 50 meters. Lost them around 200 meters. Too small beyond that range.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at March 19, 2018 09:21 PM (di1hb)

588 582 580. Ya managed. That's enough most days. Anyone says different is a fool, or thinks you are one.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:19 PM (fA1SL)

Fair enough.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:21 PM (NWiLs)

589 583
575 So Nikolas Cruz's brother, Zachary, was arrested for trespassing at the same high school his brother shot up...weird.

Posted by: lin-duh at March 19, 2018 09:17 PM (kufk0)

Runs in the family I guess.

Posted by: Surfperch at March 19, 2018 09:20 PM (H+7tw)
--------------------------------
Scare tactics of a bully.

Posted by: Javems at March 19, 2018 09:21 PM (WC8Gu)

590 584 my mother was an emotional terrorist that kept my father cowed for years, and would treat him with utter disrespect and contempt right in front of me and my siblings

There's your problem right there.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:20 PM (YqDXo)

Ya think? One of many...

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:22 PM (NWiLs)

591 I would rather that be the case.
Posted by: Javems at March 19, 2018 09:18 PM (WC8Gu)

I noticed it on an Army range in the late 80s when the 1911 was still in service in the reserves. I think it helps to have no overhead shadows like you have with many civilian outdoor ranges. And you need some bright sunlight. But it was very distinct and repeatable.

Posted by: Keith at March 19, 2018 09:22 PM (USf3s)

592 I have come here today to threaten you with my toxic masculinity and to chew bubblegum. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

Posted by: Rowdy Roddy Piper at March 19, 2018 09:22 PM (djCea)

593
I was thinking it was time to take my teen daughter out to shoot, but after the complete meltdown she just had over some trivial thing, I think I'll wait until she is about 32.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 19, 2018 09:22 PM (r+sAi)

594 That left me fucked up in a number of ways, not the least of which was I learned that being treated that way is just the way it is and you simply have to tolerate it.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:14 PM (NWiLs)

Take the lesson offered. Don't go near any harpies, or feminists, or "nasty women."

I know that's the intellectual part and not the emotional part, but it is a fine place to start.

My mother tends to get shrill, and is rather pushy and obnoxious, but to this day, my dad has never raised his voice to her. One look usually suffices.

He will also tell you that us kids won the lottery with that woman, so that love runs deep.

They will have been married 65 years come August.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:22 PM (NXsWM)

595 581 568
He used to take my out to an abandoned quarry to teach me to shoot when I
was a pre-teen. One time I recall being amazed that I could see the
bullet traveling down range. It was gold. I imagined the sun was
reflecting off of it. Much later I realized it was tracer ammo.

At the right angle you can see .45 ball going down range on a sunny day. It is golden.

Posted by: Keith at March 19, 2018 09:16 PM (USf3s)
--------------------------
I would rather that be the case.
Posted by: Javems at March 19, 2018 09:18 PM (WC8Gu)

Well, USGI small arms tracer is red, not gold.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at March 19, 2018 09:23 PM (di1hb)

596 I'm not all that experienced with guns myself, but if I was ever going to try to teach a newbie, I would start them out with a .22, regardless of whether they were a 100 lb. woman or a 240 lb. man. That's perfect for learning the basics without being intimidating.

I learned on a Ruger 10/22 rifle. It was a good experience. I think my first handgun lesson was on a Beretta 92F.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 19, 2018 09:23 PM (zGsgt)

597 579 I'm not all that experienced with guns myself, but if I was ever going to try to teach a newbie, I would start them out with a .22, regardless of whether they were a 100 lb. woman or a 240 lb. man. That's perfect for learning the basics without being intimidating.
Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 09:18 PM (sdi6R)

Yeah, and it's more fun that way.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 19, 2018 09:23 PM (F5+ro)

598 593
I was thinking it was time to take my teen daughter out to shoot, but after the complete meltdown she just had over some trivial thing, I think I'll wait until she is about 32.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 19, 2018 09:22 PM (r+sAi)

You may find that taking her to the range and putting her on some adult knowledge might just take that hissy fit crap out of her.

But of course, she's your kid, so do what you think is best.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:24 PM (NXsWM)

599 My dad never taught me to shoot.

Some time in my 30's, I inherited, more or less, a 12 gauge shotgun from my uncle (who flew Corsairs in WW2) and also, out of some inexplicable impetus, bought a 30-06 rifle for to kill Bambi some fine year.

Never fired a gun before, but went out with some more experienced friends to a range, where I found that I was, perhaps, a "natural" good shot - - I hit most of the clay pigeons tossed up for my consideration with the shotgun, and put most of the lovely 30.06 rounds in the vicinity of the center of the target from . . . I dunno . . . 60 yards? 100 yards? I forget.

Before shooting them, I had healthy respect for the machines I was using.

"These devices will kill you or somebody else if you do not respect them" was pretty much my attitude.

Posted by: filbert at March 19, 2018 09:24 PM (953wK)

600 We really need to come up with a new term for guys like this other than "pussies".

I mean pussies are nice and warm and snuggly and moist and almost one tenth of 1percent of the time they're not connected to a lunatic.

Yeah, forget I said anything.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 19, 2018 09:24 PM (dDMQ9)

601 First time I drove a stick, I was 16 and my dad told me to pick my mom up from work. She worked on top of this hill called miracle mile, which had a traffic signal at the top of the hill. I said, what car am I supposed to drive. He said, the Renault. I said, thats a stick. He said youll figure it out. And I did, after about 3 green lights and with a smoking clutch ,,,

Posted by: gm at March 19, 2018 09:24 PM (xJNP+)

602 590 584 my mother was an emotional terrorist that kept my father cowed for years, and would treat him with utter disrespect and contempt right in front of me and my siblings

There's your problem right there.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:20 PM (YqDXo)

Ya think? One of many...
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:22 PM (NWiLs)

Frankly, I can't imagine wearing that. A neighbor had his wife come outside and berate him out in front of God and everybody bellowing "You always this ..." and "You never that ..."

I expected him to say, "Start running, bitch" but no. A man can't accept being disrespected in his own house.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:25 PM (YqDXo)

603 Life imitates (good) art, or art that well observes the human condition. This reminds me of nothing so much as Homicide, that great David Mamet movie where the little black boy murders a Jewish woman because he "wanted to know where that fortune in her basement was."
Mamet is a Chicago guy.
I lived in Chicago during grad school and actually picked up the Final Call (Farakkhan) rag a few times.
There is really a significant sub-group of African Americans who are deeply steeped in the most paranoid, ignorant anti-semitism you can imagine. "Anti semitism" doesn't even capture the flavor of it. It's really obsessive, paranoid Jew hatred.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at March 19, 2018 09:25 PM (BsGS1)

604 Take the lesson offered. Don't go near any harpies, or feminists, or "nasty women."

I know that's the intellectual part and not the emotional part, but it is a fine place to start.

The trouble is that some women mask it really well and if you aren't acutely attuned to subtle warning signs you can get in way over your head really quickly.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:26 PM (NWiLs)

605 He was riding his skateboard in the school hallways. Broke in, it's all on tape. Luckily the coward County sheriffs went inside and arrested him....

Posted by: lin-duh at March 19, 2018 09:26 PM (kufk0)

606 Before shooting them, I had healthy respect for the machines I was using.

"These devices will kill you or somebody else if you do not respect them" was pretty much my attitude.
Posted by: filbert at March 19, 2018 09:24 PM (953wK)

Same thing with power tools. As I told my boys, "They'll cut through wood or metal like butter. Your limbs aren't as tough as wood, much less metal. Capisce? A moment's inattention, and they'll call you 'Lefty'."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:27 PM (YqDXo)

607 593
I was thinking it was time to take my teen daughter out to shoot, but after the complete meltdown she just had over some trivial thing, I think I'll wait until she is about 32.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 19, 2018 09:22 PM (r+sAi)

You know, I have wondered about this: Women often talk of wanting to feel empowered and safe. Why do more of them not shoot? I have always found it (although it has been a while since I have done it) as the perfect high. Cathartic and exhilarating at the same time. You can feel the testosterone running in your veins.

It is like going out to the driving range (except honestly easier than golf.) It is something with rules, steps and pointers where, if you follow all of them correctly, you get the result you want.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:27 PM (OoaOv)

608 I expected him to say, "Start running, bitch" but no. A man can't accept being disrespected in his own house.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:25 PM (YqDXo)

But what do you do? Anything other than just taking it has a >50% chance of you getting dragged off in cuffs.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:27 PM (NWiLs)

609 I feel the need to admit I have been wrong about my blanket disdain for "public servants." Yesterday I was going to to reward myself for a week of hard work by seeing a couple of movies and having a few drinks. At some point I felt unwell and needed to be taken to the hospital. I was able to leave and go back to work this morning. All of the people I had contact with, which included cops, paramedic's and nurses were sympathetic and helpful. I'm grateful for the care I received.

Posted by: CM9000 at March 19, 2018 09:27 PM (T+Zh2)

610 He was riding his skateboard in the school hallways. Broke in, it's all on tape. Luckily the coward County sheriffs went inside and arrested him....

He's not in school, so his arrest won't hurt the district's stats.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 09:28 PM (fVubI)

611 They will have been married 65 years come August.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:22 PM (NXsWM)

Congrats to them!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:29 PM (OoaOv)

612 608. That's part of the problem. Another part is Sunken Cost Fallacy.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:29 PM (fA1SL)

613 Same thing with power tools. As I told my boys, "They'll cut through wood or metal like butter. Your limbs aren't as tough as wood, much less metal. Capisce? A moment's inattention, and they'll call you 'Lefty'."

The town I grew up in employed a guy who lost an arm to a power take-off. I never really knew him, but he was an object lesson in respecting farm machinery.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 09:29 PM (fVubI)

614 Actually, I think the school is empty. I thought they were going to tear it down.

Posted by: lin-duh at March 19, 2018 09:29 PM (kufk0)

615 612 608. That's part of the problem. Another part is Sunken Cost Fallacy.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:29 PM (fA1SL)

Also true. But hit "eject" and you're cleaned out financially if you're already married. You're pretty much fucked at that point.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:30 PM (NWiLs)

616 The town I grew up in employed a guy who lost an arm to a power take-off. I never really knew him, but he was an object lesson in respecting farm machinery.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 09:29 PM (fVubI)

I respect that as well. Farming is dangerous.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 09:31 PM (QG/kl)

617 My oldest daughter drives a stick - insisted on it in fact - and it throws her friends for a loop. They think she is *so cool*.

[dad strut walk]

Bonus - her car is harder to steal.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 09:31 PM (39d8a)

618 The town I grew up in employed a guy who lost an arm to a power take-off. I never really knew him, but he was an object lesson in respecting farm machinery.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 09:29 PM (fVubI)

The hint is in the name: "power take-off."

It has power. It will take off your arm.

Choose wisely.

Posted by: filbert at March 19, 2018 09:31 PM (953wK)

619 608 I expected him to say, "Start running, bitch" but no. A man can't accept being disrespected in his own house.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:25 PM (YqDXo)

But what do you do? Anything other than just taking it has a >50% chance of you getting dragged off in cuffs.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:27 PM (NWiLs)

You remove yourself from the equation.

No woman who disrespects her man that way needs to be rewarded for the behavior. Are you still paying her bills? Are you letting her run you ragged? Are you letting her dictate what you will or will not do, think, eat, watch, or with whom you associate?

Keep your dignity while she loses hers, and walk the hell away.

It is precisely like women who stay with men who beat them. Walk the hell away. Leaving with nothing is better than staying with hell.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:31 PM (NXsWM)

620 Respect the pouch!

Posted by: Capri Sun at March 19, 2018 09:32 PM (H+7tw)

621 615. Been there. But for some - and I was among them - it's the better option, if only because you know - you KNOW, deep down - that it'll happen anyway. As I've said, a fox stuck in a trap will chew its leg off to escape. There's a lesson in that.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:33 PM (fA1SL)

622 Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:31 PM (NXsWM)

Nice in theory but see my #615

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:33 PM (NWiLs)

623 Just want to point out that this is a perfect ace post. Really hits the sweet spot of trashing soy boy leftist liars and gun thread. Kudos.

Posted by: Simplemind at March 19, 2018 09:33 PM (ZuGkg)

624 Levin on Hannity...

Posted by: redridinghood at March 19, 2018 09:33 PM (PvFoN)

625 I just want to say that the people who comment here are obviously rude, crude, unwashed Val U Rite soaked barbarians of the lowest order.

And, I thank you from the bottom of my heart shaped void

Posted by: Winston at March 19, 2018 09:33 PM (wgCUV)

626 Pussy.

Posted by: Tom Dickhols at March 19, 2018 09:34 PM (q8OQc)

627 But what do you do? Anything other than just taking it has a >50% chance of you getting dragged off in cuffs.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:27 PM (NWiLs)

Short answer: you don't do anything. You just give the other to understand that desisting is a good idea.

How do you train a dog? (Not equating wives to dogs, here, but illustrating the point.) A good sized dog would be pretty formidable, yes? But you have to establish dominance, through tone of voice, demeanor, and general comportment.

Think of British Army officers in Africa (or Royal Navy officers aboard ship) as an extreme example. Physically they were at the mercy of those around them. But they dominated them psychologically. Lion trainers understand this well. So do lecturers.

The time to do this is BEFORE the problem arises, not at the time it arises.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:34 PM (YqDXo)

628 621 615. Been there. But for some - and I was among them - it's the better option, if only because you know - you KNOW, deep down - that it'll happen anyway. As I've said, a fox stuck in a trap will chew its leg off to escape. There's a lesson in that.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:33 PM (fA1SL)

Yeah. It's true. Shitty but true.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:34 PM (NWiLs)

629 Is it any wonder why it feels like everything's failing? We stopped trying to succeed, all because we've bought the lie that success is "racist".

This alleged "guy" mentions in his coming out letter that this "is a zero-sum game."

That is complete and utter bullshit and he's repeating it verbatim, just like a good little brainwashed Prog.

The world is not a zero-sum game by any stretch of the imagination. A rising tide lifts all ships.

Wealth is created, not stolen from anyone else.

This walking mangina needs some basic economic knowledge.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 19, 2018 09:35 PM (GdWl+)

630 Pussy Boy's a liar. No actual adult would stop by the side of the road and tell his kid to shoot into a corn field. The whole story stinks to high heaven. Bet the dude's dad isn't alive to refute it, either, if he even knows who his dad is. What a pustulent POS girly-boi.

Posted by: Born Free at March 19, 2018 09:35 PM (/ttH/)

631 625 I just want to say that the people who comment here are obviously rude, crude, unwashed Val U Rite soaked barbarians of the lowest order.

Why thank you!

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:35 PM (NWiLs)

632 Nice in theory but see my #615
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:33 PM (NWiLs)

Well, do you love money more than you love your dignity?

I walked out with nothing.

It got better. A lot better.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:35 PM (NXsWM)

633 Think of British Army officers in Africa (or Royal Navy officers aboard ship) as an extreme example. Physically they were at the mercy of those around them. But they dominated them psychologically. Lion trainers understand this well. So do lecturers.

The time to do this is BEFORE the problem arises, not at the time it arises.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:34 PM (YqDXo)

Wish I'd known how to do that.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:36 PM (NWiLs)

634 How do you train a dog? (Not equating wives to dogs, here, but illustrating the point.) A good sized dog would be pretty formidable, yes? But you have to establish dominance, through tone of voice, demeanor, and general comportment.

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and a Prong Collar

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 19, 2018 09:36 PM (hMwEB)

635 Think of British Army officers in Africa (or Royal Navy officers aboard ship) as an extreme example. Physically they were at the mercy of those around them. But they dominated them psychologically. Lion trainers understand this well. So do lecturers.

The time to do this is BEFORE the problem arises, not at the time it arises.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:34 PM (YqDXo)

Well, they could also lash, withhold the rum ration and hang mutineers from yardarms. It is not the best example, because they had the real threat of force to back them up. Quick, brutal discipline does work though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:37 PM (OoaOv)

636 No woman who disrespects her man that way needs to be rewarded for the behavior. Are you still paying her bills? Are you letting her run you ragged? Are you letting her dictate what you will or will not do, think, eat, watch, or with whom you associate?

Keep your dignity while she loses hers, and walk the hell away.

It is precisely like women who stay with men who beat them. Walk the hell away. Leaving with nothing is better than staying with hell.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:31 PM (NXsWM)

This.

The most effective response: total reflective silence. Let the other person's imagination run wild. Are you contemplating what to have for dinner? Or where to bury the body? (Joking here.)

The less you say, the more unnerving to the other person.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:37 PM (YqDXo)

637 632 Nice in theory but see my #615
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:33 PM (NWiLs)

Well, do you love money more than you love your dignity?

I walked out with nothing.

It got better. A lot better.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:35 PM (NXsWM)

It's moot at this point because that's all taken place, and I'll be dick broke several years to come. So I have neither dignity nor money. Yay me.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:38 PM (NWiLs)

638 633. To the extent it's an up-side, consider that no one can do anything to you that hasn't already been done. And still you're here.
The worst thing - as you thought - that could happen did happen, and it didn't kill you.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:38 PM (fA1SL)

639 Not so haaaaaard! That huuuuurts! Oh, cut it ouuuuuut!

Posted by: Joe Besser's toxic masculinity at March 19, 2018 09:39 PM (2NqXo)

640 Our scars define us

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 19, 2018 09:39 PM (hMwEB)

641 You know, I have wondered about this: Women often talk of wanting to feel empowered and safe. Why do more of them not shoot? I have always found it (although it has been a while since I have done it) as the perfect high. Cathartic and exhilarating at the same time. You can feel the testosterone running in your veins.

It is like going out to the driving range (except honestly easier than golf.) It is something with rules, steps and pointers where, if you follow all of them correctly, you get the result you want.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:27 PM

Well, I thought about getting a gun, but I'd need to learn to shoot and get a gun safe first. (If people know you have a gun and your schedule, it's B&E time.) The last fellow I went out with (a real moron's Moron, but a workoholic) told me that he knew a gun dealer who also was an instructor. But by then the scary people in the neighborhood moved out and I think locked doors and a hatchet will suffice.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 09:39 PM (G8B7r)

642 The less you say, the more unnerving to the other person.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:37 PM (YqDXo)

Maybe, but women have learned that you won't and can't do shit to them, because they have the entire legal system at their command.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:40 PM (NWiLs)

643 Luckily the coward County sheriffs went inside and arrested him....

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I bet a couple of them had to change their underwear when they discovered he was inside the building.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I'm No Longer Selling ARs Until My $300 Ones Will Go For $1000 at March 19, 2018 09:40 PM (JTMqu)

644 638 633. To the extent it's an up-side, consider that no one can do anything to you that hasn't already been done. And still you're here.
The worst thing - as you thought - that could happen did happen, and it didn't kill you.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:38 PM (fA1SL)

Some days I'm not so sure that's an upside.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:40 PM (NWiLs)

645 and a Prong Collar
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 19, 2018 09:36 PM (hMwEB)

Kinky.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 19, 2018 09:41 PM (Tnhbr)

646 Just for fun and bragging: my local robotics team got mentioned in the local paper. I'm so proud of these kids.

Here's the link, my son's school's robot is the first picture (2890). We designed and built that over about 6 weeks, and competed against 37 other teams this last weekend. We ended up in 7th place and lost to the 2nd place team in the quarterfinals. That same 2nd seed won the tournament.

https://pilotonline.com/news/local/article_f9901cd0-2a1f-11e8-95fc-e77ccf2e51bb.html

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 19, 2018 09:41 PM (39d8a)

647 644. Nespatnik stronk like bool!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:41 PM (fA1SL)

648 This walking mangina needs some basic economic knowledge.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy

in the societies which preceded ours, this was taught by stripping the fool of his lands, property, and title.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 19, 2018 09:42 PM (oq7F8)

649 647 644. Nespatnik stronk like bool!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:41 PM (fA1SL)

Or just full of bull...

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:42 PM (NWiLs)

650 It's moot at this point because that's all taken place, and I'll be dick broke several years to come. So I have neither dignity nor money. Yay me.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:38 PM (NWiLs)

Alright, then. Step One has been deployed.

Time for Step Two.

Go to work. Cash your paycheck. Put a bit of it away in a coffee can or a strongbox or somewhere. Do that every two weeks. Until you have enough to move on with. It is your butter-and-egg money, and nobody needs to know it is there except you.

Took me the better part of ten years, but off I went.

Step Three. Don't make the mistakes again that got you into Step One in the first place.

Nobody said this was easy, but it can be rewarding.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:42 PM (NXsWM)

651 He thinks a 20 gauge is a gun.

Posted by: Guy ready to pull the string on a 12-pounder loaded with cannister at March 19, 2018 09:43 PM (extUd)

652 650. Sound enough. But he really should leave his money with me.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:43 PM (fA1SL)

653 Keep your dignity while she loses hers, and walk the hell away.

It is precisely like women who stay with men who beat them. Walk the hell away. Leaving with nothing is better than staying with hell.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:31 PM (NXsWM)

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Yep. This precisely what I did wifey #1, when after 17 years of wedded bliss, she turned into a harping, contemptible shrew while going through menopause.

She came to enjoy treating me publicly with utter contempt. She was a former hottie who had lost her looks, and was not smart enough to remain with the man who had treated her very well for 20 years.

Life is too short to wake up every day knowing it will be a battle.

I was single for 5 years, and then reconnected with a HS girlfriend. I was married to her for 3 years before I lost her to thyroid cancer. This was last Devember, and life is looking pretty bleak romantically right now.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 19, 2018 09:43 PM (0t14c)

654 This alleged "guy" mentions in his coming out letter that this "is a zero-sum game."

That is complete and utter bullshit and he's repeating it verbatim, just like a good little brainwashed Prog.

The world is not a zero-sum game by any stretch of the imagination. A rising tide lifts all ships.

Wealth is created, not stolen from anyone else.

Yep.

It's not helped by the mass importation of people from cultures where:

o Anything not nailed down is free for the taking. See Sarah Hoyt's astonishment at seeing Christmas decorations in the US after growing up in Portugal. In Portugal, it all would have been taken and sold for scrap a couple nights after it went up.

o Anything you get -- or have control over, even if you don't own it -- is communal property of the entire clan.

o Anyone who gets ahead of you got there by cheating, so it's fair to steal it or destroy it.

o You're expected to carry on a feud even if no one remembers why it started, because it started before most of the families involved had a single literate member.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 09:44 PM (fVubI)

655 i'm pretty sure ace split...but it's always fun he's in the comments.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2018 09:44 PM (N0sw0)

656 But by then the scary people in the neighborhood moved out and I think locked doors and a hatchet will suffice.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 09:39 PM

*******

Always plenty of time to arm yourself, NP... Until there isn't!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at March 19, 2018 09:44 PM (e9G8E)

657 To be fair, when the cuck that wrote the article in question was confronted about his low T on twitter, he backed down immediately like a good soyboi.

Allegedly mommy gave him some tendies & good boy points for it while The Paolo railed his wife. Mom too,

For Christ sakes, get that ~~man~~ ~~guy~~ numale some shark cartilage pills STAT!

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 19, 2018 09:44 PM (PTA8E)

658 404 In the 20th century, aggressive men who had pathways to success cut off tended to become gangsters.

If our enlightened betters want to revive the glory days of the Italian, Jewish, and Irish mafias or the Hell's Angels, they certainly seem to be doing their best to make that their biggest Unintended Consequence.

Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2018 08:37 PM (eh0Va)

If any of STEM majors out there have been hounded out of their employment or school, I could always use some guys.

Posted by: Walter White at March 19, 2018 09:45 PM (eh0Va)

659 Step Three. Don't make the mistakes again that got you into Step One in the first place.

Nobody said this was easy, but it can be rewarding.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:42 PM (NXsWM)

Believe me, I'm never making that mistake again. I am never EVER going to put the power to destroy my life in someone else's hands again. The other stuff I'm still working on. There is nothing to put aside - I'm very much hand to mouth right now - but trying to get back on my feet. My recent period of extended unemployment sure as hell didnt help matters.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:45 PM (NWiLs)

660 A few observations.

Don't know about Glock, but the 22lr conversion kit for the CZ 75B 9mm is reliable and very accurate.

Anyone who introduces a newcomer to guns and doesn't start with a safety lecture, eye and hearing protection, and a 22 (single action revolver or single shot rifle) is a fool. Using a heavy recoiling arm for a first time out is sadistic and stupid.

I am sick to death of ads that show males as totally inept and passive. (Pajama boy, "is this a lug wrench?", and other endless examples.) I don't know who writes this shit but I want them eliminated from public discourse and ridiculed whenever possible.

Mini rant off. For now.

Posted by: JTB at March 19, 2018 09:45 PM (V+03K)

661 This was last Devember, and life is looking pretty bleak romantically right now.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 19, 2018 09:43 PM (0t14c)

You're just gonna need some time, Skippy.

Let it go. You will get through it.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:45 PM (NXsWM)

662 Taught all five kids to shoot. Started with Red Ryders at nursery school age, treating them like firearms not toys. Moved quickly to .22s and Sunday afternoon trap shoots in the backyard. Closer to hunting age came the .243, .308, 270 & 30-06. Two of the girls got deer at 14 years of age. One son qualified expert as one of uncle Sam's misguided children. A daughter qualified Army rifle and pistol expert. How can anyone claim to be an American if that can't at least handle a shotgun?

Posted by: Cosda at March 19, 2018 09:45 PM (DcHlj)

663 I was single for 5 years, and then reconnected with a HS girlfriend. I was married to her for 3 years before I lost her to thyroid cancer. This was last Devember, and life is looking pretty bleak romantically right now.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 19, 2018 09:43 PM

I'm sorry for your loss.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 09:46 PM (G8B7r)

664 It's all the hormones in chickens... Men are developing man boobs. Soon to be featured to the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition

Posted by: redridinghood at March 19, 2018 09:46 PM (PvFoN)

665 Always plenty of time to arm yourself, NP... Until there isn't!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at March 19, 2018 09:44 PM (e9G8E)

My theory is I'd rather have them and not need them, than need a weapon and have none. I live in a rural area.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 09:46 PM (QG/kl)

666 and a Prong Collar
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 19, 2018 09:36 PM (hMwEB)

Not necessary. Tone of voice - the command voice - will suffice. Whenever I swore at the computer the late, much beloved Max (our golden retriever) used to run and hide, although I'd never raised a hand to him, and he was a big boy. It was the tone of voice that said it all: "Shit's on now." Look at R. Lee Ermey's performance at the beginning of Full Metal Jacket. That platoon could kick his ass if they wanted to. But they're each afraid of him, because he's established dominance.

Police officers are also doubtless taught the command voice. When they tell someone to step back, it's not a suggestion or a request. It's a command, and the tone of voice conveys that failure to comply will result in unspecified unpleasant consequences.

If done properly, one never need to go to the consequences stage.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:46 PM (YqDXo)

667 There is nothing to put aside - I'm very much hand to mouth right now - but trying to get back on my feet. My recent period of extended unemployment sure as hell didnt help matters.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:45 PM (NWiLs)

Put two dollars in the can this week.

Put two more in two weeks.

Keep doing that.

It ain't much, but it's yours. Patience is a virtue.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:46 PM (NXsWM)

668 Cannibal, look for the newer Mk. IV pistols. The earlier ones can be, ah, difficult to reassemble.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

Impossible is more accurate

Posted by: Jean at March 19, 2018 09:46 PM (MS0+a)

669 667. Naah....send that cash to me. It Will be invested in a balanced portfolio of vodka and ammo.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:47 PM (fA1SL)

670 olice officers are also doubtless taught the command voice. When they tell someone to step back, it's not a suggestion or a request. It's a command, and the tone of voice conveys that failure to comply will result in unspecified unpleasant consequences.

If done properly, one never need to go to the consequences stage.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:46 PM (YqDXo)

My BIL is a cop. He has that voice down. We argue all the time.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 09:47 PM (QG/kl)

671 am sick to death of ads that show males as totally inept and passive. (Pajama boy, "is this a lug wrench?", and other endless examples.)

THWAAAACK!

"Now you know what a lug wrench feels like, so you'll be clear from here on out, right?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:47 PM (YqDXo)

672 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:46 PM (YqDXo)

Some people have The Voice.

I think I only have the Shriek and the Yell, unfortunately.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 19, 2018 09:48 PM (hMwEB)

673 Articles like that by that pussy dad are proof that it is sane and reasonable to believe there is a conspiracy to destroy our society. Stupidityy alone can account for a lot of the destruction going on around us that but people do not sink to that level of idiocy of pussy dad on their own. It takes years of brainwashing to spew such nonsense seriously and proudly..

Posted by: Ripley at March 19, 2018 09:48 PM (NbRJx)

674 667 There is nothing to put aside - I'm very much hand to mouth right now - but trying to get back on my feet. My recent period of extended unemployment sure as hell didnt help matters.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:45 PM (NWiLs)

Put two dollars in the can this week.

Put two more in two weeks.

Keep doing that.

It ain't much, but it's yours. Patience is a virtue.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:46 PM (NXsWM)

I would if I could. Child support payments keep me broke. If I don't pay those I go to jail. Getting ahead, even two bucks at a time, is just not feasible right now.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:49 PM (NWiLs)

675 My grandfather taught me how to shoot with a .22 lever action back when I was about 8 years old while the Old Man was in Vietnam. We would blast tin cans in the "Mud Lane" from his back porch.

Later my uncle had me shoot his .58 caliber muzzle loader. He laughed like a maniac when the recoil knocked me on my ass BUT I knew that I had officially entered manhood since I had been found worthy to handle such a fearsome firearm.

Pussy-Boy would have been curled up in a fetal position sucking his thumb.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 19, 2018 09:49 PM (5Yee7)

676 669 667. Naah....send that cash to me. It Will be invested in a balanced portfolio of vodka and ammo.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:47 PM (fA1SL)

For a "modest" percentage based management fee, I presume.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:50 PM (NWiLs)

677 On youtube, there are a bunch of vids of foreigners - mainly Euros and Japanese and Koreans - visiting American ranges and shooting guns for the first time. 99% of them just love it- and theyre shooting rifles and handguns that are much more powerful than a 20 gauge. Can we swap this guy for them? He outpussies the Euros, for Gods sake

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V my laptop died at March 19, 2018 09:50 PM (Xwqn/)

678 Sometimes I just want to substitute "white male" with "Dirty Jew" in these articles and see how they sound.

Posted by: Mega at March 19, 2018 09:50 PM (rv0Fo)

679 676. Business should be conducted in a businesslike manner.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:51 PM (fA1SL)

680 I think I only have the Shriek and the Yell, unfortunately.
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 19, 2018 09:48 PM (hMwEB)

I have the confident walk down while saying may I help you when I catch a stranger on my property. The men I have said this to say, don't shoot me, I'm checking the grapes, etc. I didn't have a gun either.

I also have the spazzy shrieky voice as well.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 09:51 PM (QG/kl)

681 For a "modest" percentage based management fee, I presume.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:50 PM (NWiLs)

Track suit mafia.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:51 PM (OoaOv)

682 >>>Unsteady and unsure of himself, he loaded a bullet into the chamber and
told me to aim somewhere deep into one of the endless cornfields that
make up whole swathes of this country still, the sort of vast expanse
that you can fire a rifle blindly into and not worry about hitting
anything anyone would ever notice. I told him I did not want to. He
nodded gently and said he knew that but I had to fire anyway. I wanted
to make him happy, or least not make him mad, so I held the gun out in
front of me, with dinosaur arms, put my finger on the trigger and,
holding my breath and biting my lip so hard that my braces started to
crank and ache, pulled it.<<<

This is classic. This should be a meme like that wacky 'hugging your daughter and crying' shit, or whatever the cuck it is.

Posted by: Fritz at March 19, 2018 09:51 PM (bJ0w+)

683 681. Is best mafiya.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (fA1SL)

684 One of the greatest analyses of masculinity and the menace of feminism was "Men and Marriage," (originally published as "Sexual Suicide") by George Gilder. The permanent battle of every civilization is to channel the aggression and energy of young males into constructive, or at least supportive activities. When it stops doing that, those energies are inevitably channeled into destructive activities, and society descends into chaos, until one new group of violent males suppresses the rest...and the cycle begins again. (This book was written long before Islam was seen as any kind of threat, but it is stunning to see how it applies to analyzing the growth of Islam).

Feminazis and SJWs believe their coercion will result in softer, gentler, more feminine boys. WRONG!! A few will knuckle under, the rest will become more destructive uncontrolled, and THEY WILL ULTIMATELY TAKE OVER. Then watch the Fembots and SJWs bawl their eyes out...as they're flogged in the public squares.

As we know, this process is far-advanced in many of the most "civilized" parts of northern Europe, where native, sophisticated Feminists are terrorized by invading Muslim yutes, who rape, rob murder with impunity. Just wait for a couple generations of Muslim birth rates to kick in...

Read "Men and Marriage."

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (+O9YB)

685 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:47 PM (fA1SL)

For a "modest" percentage based management fee, I presume.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:50 PM (NWiLs)

I don't believe that "modest" and "Palpatine" should be on the same page together, let alone a single comment.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (NXsWM)

686 His dad apparently did no prior research or practice himself.

Had no other man to contact, apparently, to ask him for pointers or a two hour bit of coaching.

It's almost like he was setting his pussy son up for an "accident."

Posted by: ace at March 19, 2018 07:34 PM (8rNrN)

I'm going with 100% fiction, Ace.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (Dbv1R)

687 678 Sometimes I just want to substitute "white male" with "Dirty Jew" in these articles and see how they sound.
Posted by: Mega at March 19, 2018 09:50 PM (rv0Fo)

I am sure they are willing to do this for you.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (OoaOv)

688 It was once said that men had dirty apartments and clean cars, women had clean apartments and dirty cars.

Generation Snowflake lives at home and doesn't drive cars

Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (eh0Va)

689 Sometimes I just want to substitute "white male" with "Dirty Jew" in these articles and see how they sound.

Pretty much the same, actually.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (fVubI)

690 681 For a "modest" percentage based management fee, I presume.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:50 PM (NWiLs)

Track suit mafia.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:51 PM (OoaOv)

Mmm hmm. And you know he's a high-roller cause he's got the authentic Adidas. I got a cheap knockoff from that blyat Sergei.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (NWiLs)

691 My BIL is a cop. He has that voice down. We argue all the time.
Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 09:47 PM (QG/kl)

It's a basic skill. Hell, it's even a basic skill for lecturers. Maintain control of several hundred students? With "the voice," it's easy. No need to get gnarly, or say anything explicitly. The tone of voice - the confidence - says it all. I learned it as a key feature of learning to lecture to a large audience; learning to lower the pitch of your voice, then bounce your voice off the diaphragm, so it resonates throughout the lecture theater, perhaps walking up the aisles while continuing to lecture.

The subliminal message: this is MY turf. You are on MY turf, and on MY turf I do whatever I want, whenever I want.

(I used to do that in pitching in baseball. "That is MY plate. You are standing too close to MY plate." Brushback pitch follows.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (YqDXo)

692 I don't believe that "modest" and "Palpatine" should be on the same page together, let alone a single comment.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (NXsWM)

Hence the scare quotes.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:54 PM (NWiLs)

693 This is classic. This should be a meme like that wacky 'hugging your daughter and crying' shit, or whatever the cuck it is.
Posted by: Fritz at March 19, 2018 09:51 PM (bJ0w+)

Ah, the recurring theme of "Madame Secretary."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:54 PM (YqDXo)

694 I'm going with 100% fiction, Ace.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (Dbv1R)

It reeks of the fake hate crimes or Anna Kraphead on the Young Turks who just so happened to run into the white racists on the day of the election who checked off every box

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2018 09:55 PM (SiINZ)

695 Actor Frank Vincent wrote a book called "A Guy's Guide to Being a Man's Man"

Entertaining read and probably a history of what once was ..

https://tinyurl.com/y9lj2f5g

Posted by: kbdabear at March 19, 2018 09:55 PM (eh0Va)

696 YouTube features tons of videos of men with tutorials for full face make up application. Cosmetic companies are using men in their ads fully made up.
They are trying to feminize me so that we will all accept this as acceptable and normal behavior.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 19, 2018 09:55 PM (PvFoN)

697 (I used to do that in pitching in baseball. "That is MY plate. You are standing too close to MY plate." Brushback pitch follows.)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (YqDXo)

Projection with a relaxed and confident manner is what most newbies to public speaking do not get. You get people's attention when you do not use a microphone to speak to a group of 80 people.

Especially the guys in the front row.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:55 PM (OoaOv)

698 Projection with a relaxed and confident manner is what most newbies to public speaking do not get. You get people's attention when you do not use a microphone to speak to a group of 80 people.

Especially the guys in the front row.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:55 PM (OoaOv)

They're the ones getting sprayed with your spittle, so yeah.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:56 PM (NWiLs)

699 Always plenty of time to arm yourself, NP... Until there isn't!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at March 19, 2018 09:44 PM

I know, but I don't have much in the way of property. A couple neighbors scoped out my house many years ago (the elderly neighbor's informed me) so everyone knows I've got nothing but books, a radio, and a old furniture. So my house is not a great target for B&E.

As to getting attacked, it would most likely happen on school property.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 09:57 PM (G8B7r)

700 I used to do that in pitching in baseball. "That is MY plate. You are standing too close to MY plate." Brushback pitch follows.)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (YqDXo)

His tone is probably why I argue with him. He annoys me, I'm not a perp.
He also speaks to his wife in that same cop voice and that annoys me.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 09:57 PM (QG/kl)

701 (I used to do that in pitching in baseball. "That is MY plate. You are standing too close to MY plate." Brushback pitch follows.)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:52 PM (YqDXo)

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As a yungun and a pitcher, I did that too. A little chin music usually got them to shy away from crowding the plate.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 19, 2018 09:57 PM (0t14c)

702 Nespatnik has Adibas track suit because still in training. Once he masters gopnik life style, he is presented with Adidas, as is ancient Slavic custom.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 19, 2018 09:58 PM (fA1SL)

703 So I have neither dignity nor money. Yay me.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:38 PM (NWiLs)

You got us!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 19, 2018 09:58 PM (Dp6qK)

704 Some people have The Voice.

I think I only have the Shriek and the Yell, unfortunately.
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at March 19, 2018 09:48 PM (hMwEB)

On one hand, it can be learned.

On the other hand, in fairness, it's MUCH easier for men. A low rumbling voice conveys menace much more effectively than anything else.

The trick is not to SAY anything. That's quotable. The trick is to let the tone of voice say it all.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 09:58 PM (YqDXo)

705 I'm sorry for your loss.

Same here, Calm Mentor.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 19, 2018 09:59 PM (GdWl+)

706 I bought a .22 conversion kit for my Kimber 1911 .45. It's fun to shoot.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 09:59 PM (sdi6R)

707 As a yungun and a pitcher, I did that too. A little chin music usually got them to shy away from crowding the plate.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at March 19, 2018 09:57 PM (0t14c)

My man.

I never SAID anything. But anybody who pissed me off - crowding the plate, running the mouth, grandstanding after a hit - could confidently look forward to my buzzing the tower next chance I got.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 10:00 PM (YqDXo)

708 They're the ones getting sprayed with your spittle, so yeah.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 19, 2018 09:56 PM (NWiLs)

Hey, whatever works.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 10:00 PM (OoaOv)

709 This is all well and good, but yet again people like Jordan Peterson, a tradcon, fail to mention that the laws, court systems, society, and culture is what is destroying men and boys. And I like Peterson, but even he misses the boat as most Tradcons do. TradCons just expect men to risk marrying when their lives can be destroyed by any woman because reasons and its encouraged. This is dumb advice and removes all responsibility, accountability, and consequences from women while giving them more power and authority.

Dads want to be in the lives of their children. Most moms do not want this. And the moms that don't want this will destroy the lives of the dads with the help of the laws, courts, society, and white knights.

The game is rigged and dangerous for men to play. Only a fool would participate with the current laws and status quo in place.

Marxists and feminists destroyed our country. Good luck getting men and boys to fix a country that literally hates them 24/7/365. Civilzation will slowly collapse and another culture will replace ours.

And men will of course be blamed.

*spit*

Posted by: Monk at March 19, 2018 10:02 PM (ZghNV)

710 His tone is probably why I argue with him. He annoys me, I'm not a perp.
He also speaks to his wife in that same cop voice and that annoys me.
Posted by: CaliGirl at March 19, 2018 09:57 PM (QG/kl)

You've got to use the tone judiciously, for several reasons. First, you don't want to overdo it, and intimidate the hell out of everyone else all the time.

But second, you want to keep it in reserve so that when it comes out, people are thinking "Uh oh."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 10:02 PM (YqDXo)

711 I'd like a .22mag conversion kit for a full sized hand gun. Single shot would be fine.

Posted by: Jean at March 19, 2018 10:03 PM (MS0+a)

712 *ONT is NOOD!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 19, 2018 10:03 PM (Ckg4U)

713 (707) See Bob Gibson.

Posted by: Burger Chef at March 19, 2018 10:06 PM (RuIsu)

714 They are trying to feminize me so that we will all accept this as acceptable and normal behavior.
------------------------

It started in earnest a decade or so ago when they were pushing and oversexualizing Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber, who were practically odd genderless, ageless twins.

Posted by: Mega at March 19, 2018 10:06 PM (rv0Fo)

715 The problem women have is that our voices tend to go up when we try to be assertive. You want to sound strong and confident not shrill. Unfortunately shrill is what often comes out. Lowering your voice doesnt help either- you sound like you've caught cold. Speaking more deliberately and calmly is the only thing I can think of that conveys assertiveness or at least control so you dont come off as a harridan

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V my laptop died at March 19, 2018 10:09 PM (Xwqn/)

716 Projection with a relaxed and confident manner is what most newbies to public speaking do not get. You get people's attention when you do not use a microphone to speak to a group of 80 people.

Especially the guys in the front row.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at March 19, 2018 09:55 PM (OoaOv)

This. Although 80 people is a small cozy group. Try 300 sans microphone ("we don't need no stinkin' microphone!"). It takes practice to project a calm, confident manner, and your voice is 90% of that, personality is the rest. Calm, confident, deep, resonant, bounced off the diaphragm, filling every corner of the lecture theater ... that is the measure of an effective lecturer.

You have to be bigger than life, and adopt a persona that would be ... laughable face to face. But in a lecture theater, comes across as natural. Think Brian Blessed. Voice and gestures that are hopelessly theatrical face to face, but come across as natural to a large audience (whereas face to face demeanor would bore a large audience - it's too subtle.)

I used to use playground chalk (1" diameter), and strove to make everything I wrote at least as large as my hand. I couldn't read it - it was too large to read easily - but after the lecture, I'd go to the back of the theater to make sure it was legible from back there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 10:11 PM (YqDXo)

717 715 The problem women have is that our voices tend to go up when we try to be assertive. You want to sound strong and confident not shrill. Unfortunately shrill is what often comes out. Lowering your voice doesnt help either- you sound like you've caught cold. Speaking more deliberately and calmly is the only thing I can think of that conveys assertiveness or at least control so you dont come off as a harridan
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V my laptop died at March 19, 2018 10:09 PM (Xwqn/)

It is a real problem, and one to which I do not have an answer. A high pitched voice under stress tends almost inevitably to get shrill, which bespeaks stress and lack of confidence.

I have no idea how to overcome that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 10:12 PM (YqDXo)

718 It is a real problem, and one to which I do not have an answer. A high pitched voice under stress tends almost inevitably to get shrill, which bespeaks stress and lack of confidence.

I have no idea how to overcome that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 19, 2018 10:12 PM

Whisper. And when the person draws near, kick in the groin. Works on other women, too!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 19, 2018 10:16 PM (G8B7r)

719 I have yet to hear Jordan Peterson's opinion on the Duluth Model, which law enforcement, courts, and feminist psychologists use in domestic relationships and domestic violence cases and accusations. In 1999 one of the founders admitted it was a fraud and meant to tackle male privilege. In 2003 the DOJ said basically it's a fraud. In 2006 a study was conducted concluding that it labels all men as domestic terrorists and is about tackling patriarchy.

The Duluth Model's response on their own website did not deny this but justified it. As a man, a doctor can only recommend that you leave the house, aka have a exit strategy, when a gf/spouse gets violent with you because you will be arrested and removed for good from the house. Look it up on WebMD.

Almost all the states operate under the Duluth Model. I really wish Peterson, and other TradCons, would address this issue and not dodge it like they do with the others blaming men for everything. It's almost as if TradCons know nothing about Male nature and female nature or are just too big of pussies to discuss it in a dispassionate objective manner.

Posted by: Monk at March 19, 2018 10:22 PM (ZghNV)

720 I'm almost tempted to say it served him right. WHY
would you give a newbie a .44 Magnum? That's incredibly stupid. Even
if a tragedy didn't happen it would probably scare her off guns for
life.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2018 09:09 PM (sdi6R)

He didn't deserve what happened to him, but he was clearly the author of his own misfortune. Same as that incident in Arizona, where the staffer at the "shoot a machine-gun" tourist trap let a nine year-old girl try to shoot one.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 19, 2018 10:49 PM (Dbv1R)

721 So Nikolas Cruz's brother, Zachary, was arrested for trespassing at the same high school his brother shot up...weird.

Posted by: lin-duh at March 19, 2018 09:17 PM (kufk0)

Genetic brother, or adoptive brother, or step-brother?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 19, 2018 10:54 PM (Dbv1R)

722 Sissy boys aren't "girls," they're eunuchs.

Females are our Own Sex, thank you very much.

Posted by: Beverly at March 20, 2018 12:49 AM (hOknW)

723 One of these days I'm gonna stop by and say sumpm.

Posted by: Bunk X at March 20, 2018 01:10 AM (EPf/I)

724 There was a time that some felt Georgia, with its increasingly
well-educated and ethnic population, could end up in Hillary Clinton's
colon....

Posted by: Beverly at March 20, 2018 01:13 AM (hOknW)

725 home life as a young un was harsh but fair. I was running from my Mum after a bit of lip and she broke an SMLE .303 over my bonce as I escaped the house. It was in the hallway and it was handy. I think I deserved it as I was a cheeky wee shit.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at March 20, 2018 01:47 AM (fQxV7)

726 "As children, we have not had parents setting us aside to tell us the dangers of walking down the street alone at night, or being pulled over by a police officer, or heading to a party with alcohol and strangers. "

WTAF?
Of course we did! If you had a father (or mother) with any experience of the world. Yeah, I'm white but my dad sure as F taught me those things. But then, he grew up on Chicago's south side. Where being the wrong color on the wrong side of the street at the wrong time could get you killed.

Of course I've taught my kids about being pulled over!! What responsible parent (of any f'g color) hasn't? Inside light on, hands on the wheel with the window down as the officer approaches... don't move until he asks you to get something. No, you don't know why you were pulled over. Let him tell you.

Posted by: You're in hell, the world ended at March 20, 2018 09:54 AM (NmR1a)

727 I got my first firearm at 12 years old a single shot .410 shotgun to hunt rabbit and squirrel with My Dad. I enjoyed the heck out of it!
I fired his .22 lr rifle begging to be let to shoot it.
Then at Seventeen I got and fired my first High Powered Battle Rifle the M-14.
A Loaner from the Marines, I went on to shoot and be armed with a real lve Assault Rifle the M-16A1 and before my training was done I had been allowed to learn to shoot the M-40A1 106 mm recoilless rifle.
I have always loved to shoot anything that would shoot.
I taught my son to shoot, at 12 he was able to shoot my 1911A1 and got his own .22 lr Rifle to hunt with me.
He became a Marine as well and served with his unit as te Rifle/Pistol Marksmanship instructor.
I knew kids whose parents abhorred guns they were the ones who wanted to shoot them most.

Posted by: obsidian at March 20, 2018 10:16 AM (ARK2U)

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