Weekend Gun Thread

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So, I came across this photo this week. What is it? Correct answer gets an all expense paid trip out of the barrel.

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AosHQ, The Smart military blog. The A10 Warthog doing what it does best.


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If the following story is true, I hope that Ms Storm Durham gets a kick ass pit bull attorney. Are we a nation of laws or are we a nation of brown shirt jack boot fascists?

In the wake of last month’s tragic shooting at a Parkland, Florida, high school, there have been increased calls for more gun control measures.

Gun control advocates have used legal means to push their agenda, as seen in Florida, where Gov. Rick Scott signed into law a bill that bans bump stocks and raises the minimum age to buy a firearm from 18 to 21 — among other things.

However, in Virginia — if a former social worker’s story is to be believed — Roanoke’s social services department decided to punish a law-abiding pro-Second Amendment citizen not because she had done or was going to do anything illegal, but because they were afraid of her concealed carry permit.


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Our previous story came from Virginia. Our next story does as well. Congressional candidate doesn't know gun laws and makes an ass out of herself.

At least one sane and rational Virginia politician.


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Your gun collection, you know. The one that didn't sink in the great canoe tipping of '05. What will you do with it?

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Meet Hunter "Nubs" Cayll, quite the marksman. And a hell of a young man.


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The Weekend Gun Thread told you about a special raffle last week. In case you missed it, Scout Sniper Association Rifle Raffle.


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Some nice shooting.


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Survey says, more than half of gun owners do not store their guns safely away.


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Dodge County WI Sheriff addresses the root causes of school shootings.

Following every mass killing, I ask myself, what has happened to our society? I also wonder what the solution is to ensure our families do not become future victims.

Many have pointed out that years ago, people would go to school and have hunting rifles in their vehicles. Yet, mass violence in schools and other locations did not happen as in society today. It makes me think that there must be a root cause that we are not addressing that has led to this change.

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Tips, stories and .357 ammo to petmorons at gmail dot com

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1 !

Posted by: JT at March 11, 2018 08:16 PM (UsVrc)

2 Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Posted by: JT at March 11, 2018 08:17 PM (UsVrc)

3 OMG! A Clip!! An honest to God clip.

Posted by: BuckIV at March 11, 2018 08:18 PM (CLfqv)

4 Ok, this is getting boring

Posted by: JT at March 11, 2018 08:18 PM (UsVrc)

5 That's an M1 garand with the clip inserted and ready to be pushed in.

Watch that thumb!

Posted by: jakee308 at March 11, 2018 08:18 PM (ClrTw)

6 That's a 8 round "clip" going into a M1 Granand

Posted by: Kat_man at March 11, 2018 08:19 PM (rYqh6)

7 An en banc clip in a Garand.

Easy peasy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 08:21 PM (yQpMk)

8 To a liberal that would be a 'gay' M1 right before mating with it`s partners???

Posted by: Tentotwo at March 11, 2018 08:21 PM (yhf6w)

9 Whatever it is, no civilian has any reason to own one.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 11, 2018 08:21 PM (HiQSt)

10 So, I came across this photo this week. What is it?

.30-06 M2 AP.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 11, 2018 08:21 PM (y87Qq)

11 M1 Garand. Iconic.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 08:21 PM (NWiLs)

12 Are we a nation of laws or are we a nation of brown shirt jack boot fascists?

Increasingly the latter.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 08:22 PM (NWiLs)

13 Nobody wants to talk about what has caused shootings to start, they just want to leverage every tragedy into restricting human rights.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 11, 2018 08:22 PM (39g3+)

14 Garand with a clip of armor piercing rounds.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 11, 2018 08:22 PM (oA7a8)

15 Every time I get a pistol that I want to put a Pachmayr grip on it turns out that it;s a discontinued model and I have to pay 3 times it's value on ebay or do without.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 08:23 PM (yQpMk)

16 Define "store safely away"?

I believe that having a gun inaccessible is as bad as not having one at all.

That said, measures can be taken to limit access and exposure to being stolen.

One of the prime means to do so is to not let others know the extent of your arms and ammo.

Some of those you tell will be first in line to rat you out if confiscation becomes legal.

Just hiding them well is sufficient. And that can be fun to do.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 11, 2018 08:23 PM (ClrTw)

17 Thats the high magazine velocity clip of which the mfm refers to.

Posted by: BluesFish at March 11, 2018 08:23 PM (3g9Il)

18 Garand with a clip of armor piercing rounds.

Good catch on the black tips.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 08:23 PM (yQpMk)

19 It's a clip!

Pinggggg!

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 11, 2018 08:23 PM (2DOZq)

20 M1 Garand, with a clip of 30.06 M2 AP rounds partially inserted.

what do i win for assembling all the pieces?

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2018 08:24 PM (JdMqP)

21 Nice - without a browser problem, woulda been first, and the winner ....

Yep, easy one for owners of Garands. En bloc clip resting atop the follower in the magazine.


How about a bonus question?


What sort of rounds do they *appear* to be?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:24 PM (QDnY+)

22 Rick Scott will provide his answer after consultation with his attorney`s!

Posted by: Tentotwo at March 11, 2018 08:24 PM (yhf6w)

23 Those High Capacity Clips from a century ago are going to be banned, banned, banned!

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2018 08:24 PM (bJ0w+)

24 That's a picture of an AR-47 super-automatic capable of shooting heat seeking bullets faster than the speed of light!

Posted by: MSNBCNN at March 11, 2018 08:24 PM (IUM2p)

25 Or "Cartridge, Caliber .30, Armor Piercing, M2" if it's a formal occasion with real pants.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 11, 2018 08:24 PM (y87Qq)

26 And of course during the stupid delay, redc spoils my bonus question ......

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:24 PM (QDnY+)

27 M1 Garand, with a clip of 30.06 M2 AP rounds partially inserted.

what do i win for assembling all the pieces?
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2018 08:24 PM

You get to wait in line behind hogmartin and me.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 11, 2018 08:25 PM (oA7a8)

28
Got nuttin'. Used it all in the 'Movie Thread'...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 11, 2018 08:25 PM (4DCSq)

29 I believe that having a gun inaccessible is as bad as not having one at all.

Welcome to California. You can own a gun, you just can't legally carry it, transport it or have ready access to it in your home.

I think displaying them in a locked glass case may still be permissible.

This shithole state makes a mockery of the Second Amendment and it appears that there is no court that will tell its idiot legislators and governor "no."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 11, 2018 08:26 PM (HiQSt)

30 Survey says, more than half of gun owners do not store their guns safely away.

Definitions are critical: "The survey defined safe storage as all guns stored in a locked gun safe, cabinet or case, locked into a gun rack or stored with a trigger lock or other lock."

A gun not locked away is not automatically an unsafe condition, which is what the researchers are postulating.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 08:26 PM (NWiLs)

31 Sheriff Israel has deemed it a weapon of 'hate'!

Posted by: Tentotwo at March 11, 2018 08:26 PM (yhf6w)

32 And a whole host of Morons got the M2 AP thinggy before I thunk of the bonus question ..... tough crowd.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:26 PM (QDnY+)

33 I think I want to sell all but one of my Mosin 91/30s to make room. I've bought stuff on gunbroker, but I've never sold anything on it. Any Morons with advice?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 08:26 PM (yQpMk)

34 Posted by: jakee308 at March 11, 2018 08:23 PM (ClrTw)

I built a false wall in my closet just for fun. I'm drawing up plans to do something a little more professional.

On the same topic, they have a lot of furniture, beds, paintings, etc that have secret storage that you can buy.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 11, 2018 08:27 PM (2DOZq)

35 A gun not locked away is not automatically an unsafe condition, which is what the researchers are postulating.
Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 08:26 PM (NWiLs)



Yes. The Left loves to monkey with definitions.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 11, 2018 08:28 PM (HiQSt)

36 idiot neighbor of mine had his pistol taken when his house was burgled the other day.

genius had it safely stored under his mattress.

under #Failifornia law, he's screwed if anyone under 18 gets ahold of it and is caught.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2018 08:28 PM (JdMqP)

37 I built a false wall in my closet just for fun. I'm drawing up plans to do something a little more professional.


Like in the Comedian's apartment?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 08:28 PM (yQpMk)

38 In the USAF we saw strike films very often, always loved them.

Posted by: Skip at March 11, 2018 08:28 PM (aC6Sd)

39 M1 Garand with an 8 round enbloc clip of AP ammo.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 11, 2018 08:28 PM (+Dllb)

40 Spent part of yesterday inventorying the late RMBS Dad's collection to transfer to me.

Left me with a heckuva collection. Lot of dust in that safe, though. Terribly dusty.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 11, 2018 08:29 PM (oA7a8)

41 genius had it safely stored under his mattress.

under #Failifornia law, he's screwed if anyone under 18 gets ahold of it and is caught.



I'm sure he had it in a pistol safe but, darn it, they took the whole thing.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 08:29 PM (yQpMk)

42 I think displaying them in a locked glass case may still be permissible.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 11, 2018 08:26 PM (HiQSt)

Shhhh! Don't give the state legislature ideas!

Posted by: Surfperch at March 11, 2018 08:30 PM (IUM2p)

43 21 Nice - without a browser problem, woulda been first, and the winner ....

Yep, easy one for owners of Garands. En bloc clip resting atop the follower in the magazine.


How about a bonus question?


What sort of rounds do they *appear* to be?
Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:24 PM (QDnY+)

Hypersonic heat-seeking gas-powered Teflon-coated armor-piercing incendiary super death machine rounds designed to kill women, cops and small children.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 08:30 PM (NWiLs)

44 No need to watch the thumb, if the M1 is properly functioning. Op rod releases when downward pressure on clip/follower *stops*, i.e., as you begin to pull your thumb out. Plenty of time to clear the space before the bolt shoots forward. Or there should be.


Both of my M1s have the feature-not-bug "flaw" in which the bolt will hang up on the rear of the clip/top round, requiring just a decent push on the op rod to release it and complete the loading action. I think this is common with M1s, it was recognized as, technically, a flaw, but in practice deemed OK because it really doesn't change anything.


Any other M1 owners have rifles that do that?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:30 PM (QDnY+)

45 I built a false wall in my closet just for fun. I'm drawing up plans to do something a little more professional.


PUT. THE CANDLE. BACK.

I love that scene.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 11, 2018 08:30 PM (HiQSt)

46 37 I built a false wall in my closet just for fun. I'm drawing up plans to do something a little more professional.


Like in the Comedian's apartment?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 08:28 PM (yQpMk)

That one went over my head. I hate when that happens.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 11, 2018 08:31 PM (2DOZq)

47 I noticed the black tips and wondered what they indicated. Not having seen those in action I didn't place them.

Those cases look old. Maybe original issue?

Posted by: jakee308 at March 11, 2018 08:31 PM (ClrTw)

48 I am sort of opposed to wills beyond everything I have going to Mrs928. If we both die, I want my heirs to just go all Thunderdome for my stuff.

Posted by: Grump928(C) gasps "..to the strongest.." at March 11, 2018 08:31 PM (yQpMk)

49 If you can't identify an M-1 Garand... they why are you on this blog?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 11, 2018 08:31 PM (1xAqM)

50 No body who's ever seen/held one could miss the shape of the bolt handle, the wood guard and the sight.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 11, 2018 08:32 PM (ClrTw)

51 Surplus FN machine gun rounds in 7.62 x 51 NATO.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 11, 2018 08:32 PM (EoRCO)

52 Garand with a clip of armor piercing rounds.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 11, 2018 08:22 PM (oA7a



*ahem*

I believe the correct nomenclature is "cop-killer bullets."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 11, 2018 08:32 PM (HiQSt)

53 Grump, never used GunBroker (except as a price guide). Have never sold - only bought - guns. Always via local online private sale ads.


Which Mosin are you keeping? Arsenal/year/any unusual traits?



Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:33 PM (QDnY+)

54 years ago, people would go to school and have hunting rifles in their vehicles. Yet, mass violence in schools and other locations did not happen as in society today. It makes me think...

That's your problem! STOP THINKING!

Posted by: Your Tolerant, Enlightened Leftoid Superiors at March 11, 2018 08:33 PM (XA9IT)

55 Sure do miss my Garand.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 11, 2018 08:33 PM (Tyii7)

56 50 No body who's ever seen/held one could miss the shape of the bolt handle, the wood guard and the sight.
Posted by: jakee308 at March 11, 2018 08:32 PM (ClrTw)

And the en bloc clip. Without that, with that view you could mistake it for an M1A or M14.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 08:33 PM (NWiLs)

57 The fully automatic ghost ring thingie is like something that only a merchant of third world death would possess for killing and such. Ban fully automatic ghost rings!

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2018 08:34 PM (bJ0w+)

58 What is it?

Looks like a bunch of North Korean missiles aimed at Hawaii. I had no idea they were so cute!

Posted by: t-bird at March 11, 2018 08:34 PM (XA9IT)

59 So, I came across this photo this week. What is it?

A trampoline-assisted dunk with a walnut stock.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 11, 2018 08:34 PM (KXVP7)

60 jake I think all black-tip 30-06 would be "original", if you mean made long ago at a government arsenal. I don't think it was ever made otherwise.


And the cases look normal, assuming light has some effect here. My Greek surplus HXP cases sometimes look a lot worse.



Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:34 PM (QDnY+)

61 M1 Garand clip about to be inserted into the receiver.
Not going to read above, certainly fifty others have already ID'd it.

MTW, the M1 Garand is, literally, a "weapon of war." Not a "military style rifle," an actual honest to gosh military weapon. Designed to - you guessed it - kill people.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at March 11, 2018 08:34 PM (AprKJ)

62 Curious. Is there a chainsaw lug available for the M-1?

Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at March 11, 2018 08:35 PM (HiQSt)

63 Safe storage and handling - if you keep one by the nightstand don't have the mag in as an example - offsets speed with kids around. You won't always remember and you never know what a kid will do. It's why you train and train and train to make up time if needed.

Posted by: rammajamma at March 11, 2018 08:35 PM (oAlzZ)

64 48 I am sort of opposed to wills beyond everything I have going to Mrs928. If we both die, I want my heirs to just go all Thunderdome for my stuff.

Posted by: Grump928(C) gasps "..to the strongest.." at March 11, 2018 08:31 PM (yQpMk)

You can put that in your will.

Posted by: Surfperch at March 11, 2018 08:35 PM (IUM2p)

65 M-1 Garand; black tips makes me think armor piercing ammo

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 11, 2018 08:35 PM (5Yee7)

66 Which Mosin are you keeping? Arsenal/year/any unusual traits?



A hex Tula Star one, from 1934 I think. I have two 5-line ex-dragoons and a coup of hex Izzys that I don't need. And one wartime round receiver one was my first one.

Posted by: Grump928(C) gasps at March 11, 2018 08:36 PM (yQpMk)

67 That's the rifle Dick Winters lost at Normandy.

Posted by: PhilDirt at March 11, 2018 08:36 PM (i48K+)

68 Military style automatic machine gun with high capacity assault clipazine loaded with armor penetrating cop killer bullets and the shoulder thing that goes up. Easy.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at March 11, 2018 08:36 PM (fdjeU)

69 Someone want to confirm if true. After the last round fired, the clip ejects making loud ping sound. So much so , the Japs in close proximity could hear it and know the shooter had to reload. The marines / soldiers would carry an empty clip and throw down to trick the Japs.

Sounds like something that would happen at night when the Japs tried to infiltrate the lines.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 11, 2018 08:36 PM (2DOZq)

70 >>>>I noticed the black tips and wondered what they indicated. Not having seen those in action I didn't place them.

Those cases look old. Maybe original issue?



Posted by: jakee308 at March 11, 2018 08:31 PM
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.Yep, original. They don't make that any more.

I had about 300 rounds of 1950 vintage AP and another 500 or so of tracer on enbloc clips for my Garand. Sadly I had to let everything go after I broker my right shoulder.

Gave away over 1,000 rounds of CMP ammo on clips in cardboard too.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 11, 2018 08:36 PM (+Dllb)

71 And the en bloc clip. Without that, with that view you could mistake it for an M1A or M14.
Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 08:33 PM (NWiLs)


Do those two have receiver cutouts for a stripper clip or some other kind of charger? I can't seem to find any top-down M14 receiver pr0n at the moment.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 11, 2018 08:37 PM (y87Qq)

72 69 Someone want to confirm if true. After the last round fired, the clip ejects making loud ping sound. So much so , the Japs in close proximity could hear it and know the shooter had to reload. The marines / soldiers would carry an empty clip and throw down to trick the Japs.

Sounds like something that would happen at night when the Japs tried to infiltrate the lines.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 11, 2018 08:36 PM (2DOZq)

I can confirm the "ping" but don't know about the rest.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 08:37 PM (NWiLs)

73 Ah yes - a lovely front view of a enblanc clip mating with a very receptive M1 Garand. Gotta treat her right though or a nasty bite on ones thumb she will leave.

On passing the items not lost in the Great Canoe Accident of 2008:

Will split them amongst three of the four spawn with specific bequests to specific kids. At my advanced age of 29 I find I want very little drama after my passing and so, have already tagged items in preparation of the inevitable.

This worked very well for my folks after their passing. My grandparents did no preparation whatsoever. Ten years later the family is still tussling over the final distribution of their assets. Ugh.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 11, 2018 08:37 PM (9rIkM)

74 Cicero, you can transport your guns in CA, unloaded, in a locked case in the passenger compartment, or in the trunk (which is treated as a locked container). Carry permits of course are utterly arbitrary, in that each sheriff gets to decide who gets them, and most/all of coastal CA is "not likely to issue" territory.


And depending on the firearm, it's ridiculous to consider them "unsafe" unless locked in a safe or with trigger locks. Many can be disabled easily and quickly, rendering them no more dangerous than paper weights of similar dimensions and weight (Grump's Mosins, for example, are not very dangerous without their bolts, which take 2 seconds to remove/store/lock/hide separately).


Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:38 PM (QDnY+)

75 I have a small safe bolted onto the side of my nightstand. It opens from the top and will hold two guns. I open it every night when I go to bed and close it in the morning. It's a pretty good solution for keeping a gun close by in the bedroom.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 11, 2018 08:38 PM (HiQSt)

76 That's an espresso maker.

Posted by: Eromero at March 11, 2018 08:38 PM (zLDYs)

77 Willowed. Well, not really, i made a drink and then posted.

177
Penny Dreadful ramming teh ghey down the viewer's throat every five seconds was really grating.



Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 08:17 PM (NWiLs)

Really!? I've see 2 episodes. Damn...I hate that too. And well its hard to find a series where it isn't. F*CK.


Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 11, 2018 08:36 PM (70cRb)


Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 11, 2018 08:39 PM (70cRb)

78 It's a picture of bullets.

Duh.

Posted by: ALH at March 11, 2018 08:39 PM (hQX6p)

79 71 And the en bloc clip. Without that, with that view you could mistake it for an M1A or M14.
Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 08:33 PM (NWiLs)

Do those two have receiver cutouts for a stripper clip or some other kind of charger? I can't seem to find any top-down M14 receiver pr0n at the moment.
Posted by: hogmartin at March 11, 2018 08:37 PM (y87Qq)

They're magazine fed but have the same rotating bolt system.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 08:40 PM (NWiLs)

80 OT/ I just watched a clip that gives Triggly Puff a run for her money. I went through every possible emotion, I think, watching it. It was just put up tonight at Twitchy.

Snowflake has a MAJOR meltdown during a protest…and some are calling it an ‘exorcism’

https://tinyurl.com/ybvnqg84






Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at March 11, 2018 08:40 PM (iS/NP)

81 The M14 accept clips.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 08:40 PM (yQpMk)

82 Someone want to confirm if true. After the last round fired, the clip ejects making loud ping sound. So much so , the Japs in close proximity could hear it and know the shooter had to reload. The marines / soldiers would carry an empty clip and throw down to trick the Japs.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 11, 2018 08:36 PM (2DOZq)


I think someone did some research and debunked that, or as near as is possible. The clip is just too hard to hear over everything else going on, at least 7 other guys are still shooting at you, it takes less than 2 seconds to recharge the magazine, etc. Couldn't find any references to Axis soldiers saying anything about the clip ejection one way or the other. Kind of like how I can't find the article I'm thinking of right now! :-/

Posted by: hogmartin at March 11, 2018 08:40 PM (y87Qq)

83
I can't believe this happened again. What the hell is wrong with Britain? Wish these girls would have had somebody protecting them.

https://tinyurl.com/y9uryhzh

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 11, 2018 08:41 PM (r+sAi)

84 Carry permits of course are utterly arbitrary, in that each sheriff gets to decide who gets them, and most/all of coastal CA is "not likely to issue" territory.


Yep. And without a CCW owing a gun is pretty much useless for self defense in CA, outside of the house.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 11, 2018 08:41 PM (HiQSt)

85 Enblok clip in an M1 Garand.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at March 11, 2018 08:41 PM (DNH+H)

86 good gun thread evening to you.

being a insatiable reader slows me down delivering mail.

yesterday, this Time cover caused me for a moment to wonder if they were finally going to tell the truth about something, and put some blame for school shootings on our country's lack of fathers in families.

But when I read it, I found I was mistaken.

here's a link to the cover: https://tinyurl.com/ycywxbdz

Posted by: booknlass at March 11, 2018 08:45 PM (xGMkv)

87 Goddamn these server errors are annoying.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 08:45 PM (NWiLs)

88 Looks like Pixy is hitting the sauce again.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 11, 2018 08:45 PM (HiQSt)

89 Grump, depending on condition and especially of course how they shoot
(mostly a question of the crown), I'd keep the dragoons - but mostly
because I like the elaborate Russian arsenal stamps from that period
(before 1927, I think). Haven't price lately, but seems nicer (but not
unusual) hex Mosins can go for $200+ easily, maybe up to $250, depending
where you are.


Don't know for sure, but have seen the "ping"
and Axis troops using it as a signal to attack discussed many times on
many forums, including CMP, and have never seen any evidence of it. And
it is not very plausible.


The "ping" is not audible 50 yards
away, normally, or even closer - during shooting, especially. Just not
plausible (to me) that there would have been any pattern of German or
Japanese troops trying to use the ping as a signal. The reasons are
sort of obvious, and numerous.


The idea that US/Allied troops
would use the change-out of MG-42 barrels to change position is
slightly more plausible, but I'm not aware of actual evidence of it.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:46 PM (QDnY+)

90 Snowflake has a MAJOR meltdown during a protest

That young lady (I think?) needs some serious help.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 11, 2018 08:46 PM (Tyii7)

91 hiphiphurray MH

Posted by: concrete girl at March 11, 2018 08:46 PM (SJBL7)

92 "If we both die, I want my heirs to just go all Thunderdome for my stuff."

Just exactly what kind of stuff we talkin' here?

Posted by: navybrat at March 11, 2018 08:47 PM (w7KSn)

93 *Hic!*

Posted by: woefully under-provisioned MySQL server at March 11, 2018 08:47 PM (NL6wI)

94 Boy it's dead here today....only 92.

Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at March 11, 2018 08:48 PM (foYMy)

95 And Cicero, isn't it only SF that has the insane (and wildly unconstitutional) laws about how your guns are kept inside the house (I mean details about whether they're loaded, etc.)? Can't imagine anyone with a reasonable need to have a gun handy, inside their house, does not keep it like that when they're home. Easy enough to violate that law every day with impunity.



Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:48 PM (QDnY+)

96 Posted by: hogmartin at March 11, 2018 08:40 PM (y87Qq)

That was my feeling but I've never read anything confirming or debunking. Haven't really looked that hard though.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 11, 2018 08:48 PM (2DOZq)

97 Yeah, getting the festival of red gibberish every 3rd or 4th comment attempt, still.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:48 PM (QDnY+)

98 M1 with 30.06 M2 AP ammo

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 11, 2018 08:49 PM (aMlLZ)

99 I have 3 SHTF weapons at ready access. They will,with appropriate ammo, go with me should the situation demand.

Of course there are others that would regrettably be left.

But the trinity goes with me.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 11, 2018 08:49 PM (S/hVx)

100 The "ping" is not audible 50 yards
away, normally, or even closer - during shooting, especially.

That's not exactly true. I've shot the Garand, with hearing protection, while others were firing and could hear the ping as the clip ejected, as could bystanders. Obviously that doesn't remotely compare to the noise level of a wartime firefight, but it's still a pretty distinguishable sound even with significant ambient noise and earplugs.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 08:49 PM (NWiLs)

101 Is the picture a trick and that is an M-14 (which if my memory does not fail me can accept clips...)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 11, 2018 08:49 PM (ycWCI)

102 94 Boy it's dead here today....only 92.

Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at March 11, 2018 08:48 PM (foYMy)

Throw out a Home Improvement Thread and see what happens.


Posted by: ALH at March 11, 2018 08:49 PM (hQX6p)

103 That old chestnut about enemy soldiers hearing the ping of an ejected clip is BS. Combat is pretty noisy.

Posted by: Butch at March 11, 2018 08:50 PM (hXu8T)

104 >>> 97 Yeah, getting the festival of red gibberish every 3rd or 4th comment attempt, still.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:48 PM (QDnY+)

We should use the hamsters as targets. They're about the same size as clays, right?

Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at March 11, 2018 08:50 PM (Jq2Yj)

105 What is it? It's illegal!!!!....unless it's undocumented then....oh wait....mmmm....

Posted by: California at March 11, 2018 08:51 PM (ECwx7)

106 I think someone did some research and debunked that, or as near as is possible. The clip is just too hard to hear over everything else going on, at least 7 other guys are still shooting at you, it takes less than 2 seconds to recharge the magazine, etc. Couldn't find any references to Axis soldiers saying anything about the clip ejection one way or the other. Kind of like how I can't find the article I'm thinking of right now! :-/
Posted by: hogmartin at March 11, 2018 08:40 PM (y87Qq)

Yup....Bloke on the Range did a survey and researched but found noevidence for the ping being used tactically. He is asking for people to submit evidence but none has come to light per his query.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbGoU-yx8YA

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 11, 2018 08:51 PM (EoRCO)

107 It's a baited thumb trap invented by John Garand. He may have invented a rifle as a by product.

Posted by: Agitator at March 11, 2018 08:51 PM (vc50u)

108 So I'll repeat what I tell everybody who admires an M1 at the range, or giggles with delight after I let them shoot mine - if it fits your situation otherwise, GET one.


CMP. It's not hard, at all, and they'll never be cheaper. AND you get a certified safe/operable rifle, with the best imaginable customer service on any issues or problems. Best deal in America, really.


If you don't reload, ammo is about 70 cents/round. Can be reloaded for half that, easily.


They're beautiful industrial art, they're tough, they're history, they shoot wonderfully, and they're great fun. Service grades still not much over $700, delivered, I think. Amazing deal for what they are.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:52 PM (QDnY+)

109 I'd keep the dragoons

I'm not that interested in them. To be honest, I wanted the Tula Star hex so I bought a box of 5 hexes from Classic, unsorted, when you could still get the rearsenaled primo stuff from the Ukraine for cheap. I got the one star I wanted, the 2 ex-dragoons and the other two Izzys so I didn't buy any more. I haven't even cleaned the cosmo off the other four.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 08:53 PM (yQpMk)

110 Mentioned above, but that Johns Hopkins survey is horseshit.

F' them and their scope of practice violations.

Posted by: Another Bob at March 11, 2018 08:53 PM (2lprv)

111 >>>Boy it's dead here today....only 92.
<<<

Let's expand this discussion from guns to shelves and gun shelves. You're just not trying hard enough, pilgrim.

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2018 08:53 PM (bJ0w+)

112 103 That old chestnut about enemy soldiers hearing the ping of an ejected clip is BS. Combat is pretty noisy.
Posted by: Butch at March 11, 2018 08:50 PM (hXu8T)

That's true but again I heard this supposedly happened at night when the Japs tried to sneak into the American lines and the firing during this time was sporadic. The Japs who would be just yards away would wait to move to the American position after they heard the ping.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 11, 2018 08:54 PM (2DOZq)

113 which if my memory does not fail me can accept clips...)

M14s can accept stripper clips, not the enbanc ones.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 08:55 PM (yQpMk)

114 Big fan of the M1. I managed to pick up a second one chambered in .308. Lots of fun!

Posted by: Weasel at March 11, 2018 08:55 PM (MVjcR)

115 Insomniac yes of course, on the firing line the ping is audible, unless other loud rifles are shot at the same time. But the sound does not carry that far, certainly not a typical engagement range in WWII or Korea. Even assuming a "quiet" moment.


And of course that's only one part of it.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:56 PM (QDnY+)

116 Aetius451AD @ 101 - M14 is mag fed. Too lazy to pull my M1A1 out of the safe to see if the receiver will load via stripper clip from the top.

Posted by: Butch at March 11, 2018 08:56 PM (hXu8T)

117 M14s can accept stripper clips, not the enbanc ones.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

stripper clips accept dollar bills

Posted by: Rick in SK at March 11, 2018 08:56 PM (K2T58)

118 I can't believe this happened again. What the hell is wrong with Britain? Wish these girls would have had somebody protecting them.

https://tinyurl.com/y9uryhzh
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 11, 2018 08:41 PM (r+sAi)


Another reason I don't want Americans to lose gun rights.
The stuff going on over there is horrific. Unthinkable really. But many, including the police, have bowed down.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at March 11, 2018 08:56 PM (iS/NP)

119 when HRH bought her Barrett M-99, used, it didn't have a bipod.

Barrett apparently never has them in stock, and Amazon wanted to charge full price AND collect sales taxes for Moonbeam too.

FTS!

did a web search, and these folks had it in stock, free shipping and NO sales tax.

couldn't get the on-line page to take the order, so, even though it was late afternoon here in #Failifornia, we called the number.

guy answered, took all the info, it shipped Monday, we got it Fryday, so "awesome"...

lots of kewl shit on their web page too: check them out! we'll be getting MOAR stuff from them, like totally, fer sure!

https://www.eurooptic.com/

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2018 08:57 PM (JdMqP)

120 They're beautiful industrial art, they're tough, they're history, they shoot wonderfully, and they're great fun. Service grades still not much over $700, delivered, I think. Amazing deal for what they are.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:52 PM (QDnY+)

------------------

I own 2. One bought refurbished from CMP and one I bought on the private market and had CMP do the restoration on.

Both are great guns.

If you have time, check out NutNFancy, who does an extensive, though lengthy, review of the M1 Garand. Be warned, though, he does talk a lot.

His take: While it wouldn't be his first choice, he wouldn't be afraid to use the rifle as a main battle rifle even today.

Posted by: Blake at March 11, 2018 08:57 PM (WEBkv)

121 It's the thing that goes up.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 11, 2018 08:58 PM (O5Q3r)

122 I've got one of those M9-D3 spare barrel covers that I use for a Marine issued machete. Inherited both from my father.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 11, 2018 08:59 PM (2DOZq)

123 Don't want to yank that particular taffy, but Sebastian the scenario in question - night-time infiltration by Japanese - would not render the "ping" that informative, unless, somehow, it was known that the position being attacked had only one soldier. With one rifle, with no 1911, or an M1919 set up at his position, etc. In the dark. Confusion and chaos of course were probably typical for any melees at night. Dark. No night-vision gear.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:59 PM (QDnY+)

124 I think the enbanc clip is still a great idea for a combat rifle. Especially if you could get it to fit 20 rounds. No need for a dump bag for your empties.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 09:00 PM (yQpMk)

125 I really like the M1, but in today's world I got a soft spot for the FN-FAL.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 11, 2018 09:00 PM (aMlLZ)

126
Another reason I don't want Americans to lose gun rights.
The stuff going on over there is horrific. Unthinkable really. But many, including the police, have bowed down.
Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at March 11, 2018 08:56 PM (iS/NP)

Guns your enemy knows you won't use is no deterrent.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 11, 2018 09:00 PM (z79tQ)

127 Interwebz confirm M14 can be fed via stripper clip.

Posted by: Butch at March 11, 2018 09:00 PM (hXu8T)

128 Grump, too bad I'm a continent away, I'd take a a look at your Mosins for any that might be better than what I have. I have a few in my set that are OK but could easily be displaced/replaced by something particularly nice.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:01 PM (QDnY+)

129 125 I really like the M1, but in today's world I got a soft spot for the FN-FAL.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 11, 2018 09:00 PM (aMlLZ)

Yes. I've been wanting to add a battle rifle to my collection for awhile now. An FAL model is what I want.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 11, 2018 09:02 PM (2DOZq)

130 So, on the CMP thing:

1) You join a club (NRA, something like that?)
2) Mail in your money and order form with ID like a passport photocopy.
3) The rifle is shipped to a local dealer for pick-up?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 11, 2018 09:02 PM (ycWCI)

131 'd take a a look at your Mosins for any that might be better than what I have.

So I should clean them up and post pics, huh?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 09:02 PM (yQpMk)

132 That gun at the top isn't black, so it can't be very lethal

Posted by: Bruce at March 11, 2018 09:03 PM (8ikIW)

133 If anyone ever needs it, the CMP Custom Shop does really nice work. I sent them a Model of 1917 last year with very specific instructions on how I wanted it chambered and headspaced (figuring they would ignore my notes) and they sent it back EXACTLY as requested. Very reasonably priced and quality work.

Posted by: Weasel at March 11, 2018 09:03 PM (MVjcR)

134 Snowflake has a MAJOR meltdown during a protest

That young lady (I think?) needs some serious help.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 11, 2018 08:46 PM (Tyii7)

Ya know, the only positive thing I could think of in that clip, was that there was no violence. If it was reversed, a Trump screamer at a Resistance rally, I think someone would have hit her. The whole thing is just sad.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at March 11, 2018 09:03 PM (iS/NP)

135 Now that the Old Man is in a nursing home, my brother and I have been clearing out the house. We found some firearms squirreled away in a closet. I took the M-1 Garand and M-1 carbine. My brother took the Mini-14 and the Uzi.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 11, 2018 09:03 PM (5Yee7)

136 So, on the CMP thing:

http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/eligibility-requirements/

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 09:04 PM (yQpMk)

137 That gun at the top isn't black, so it can't be very lethal
Posted by: Bruce at March 11, 2018 09:03 PM (8ikIW)


The wood stock is sustainable too.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 11, 2018 09:04 PM (HiQSt)

138 132 That gun at the top isn't black, so it can't be very lethal
Posted by: Bruce at March 11, 2018 09:03 PM (8ikIW)

Numerous Germans and other communists might disagree... well, if they could.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 11, 2018 09:04 PM (ycWCI)

139 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 11, 2018 09:03 PM (5Yee7)

You chose old school.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 11, 2018 09:04 PM (2DOZq)

140 I just got done driving 10 hours home from Maryland with my grandfather's 1911 that saved his life during WW2.

He's 95 years old, and while still physically fit as a spring chicken, he's starting to suffer from some pretty severe dementia. He thinks that the gun, which hasn't been fired, disassembled, or even cleaned since the war, will be able to save him if someone tries to break into his house. The two mags he gave me, contained the same cartridges that were in the mags when he left occupied Germany. My father, aunt, and uncle all decided that it was time that the firearm be removed from the home for his safety.

After my grandfather's unit (G company, 1st Armored Infantry, 6th Armored Division) helped break the ongoing disaster that was the battle of Anzio, they were en patrol in advance of the route to Rome when his unit came under fire from a quad-barreled AA emplacement on elevated ground.

With no cover, his squad leader ordered them to charge the emplacement to get under the firing arc of the gun. My grandfather was the machine gunner of the squad. He and his squad rushed the hill. As the rounds flew by, one got near enough his ammo carrier, and took his head off.

Pops dropped his machine gun, which was now useless as he reached the elevated emplacement that was up against a rise with sandbags on top. The Germans started throwing potato mashers down at his squad, they back at the Germans. After a few seconds, it went quiet. Pops was the lead man, so he came around the bend of the rise with the 1911 out, and saw the Germans fleeing. As he was about to lay a bead, the officer of the group jumped down off the embankment. Pop squeezed off a round, and out of sheer luck he said, hit him in the head.

To this day, my grandfather feels guilty as hell about it. Even though the officer had a pistol of his own in his hand, Pops says that the "kid" couldn't have been older than 19 - had a soulbook in his front jacket pocket. As a machine gunner, he knows that he killed more, maybe many more, during his time on the front, but as he said to me those "were rounds addressed to whom it may concern" but this one was the only German he knows he killed during the war.

I just drove through Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, and Massachusetts on my way home to Maine. All of those states I could have been arrested for even possessing the firearm - even though it was in a locked box to which I didn't even have the key with me. I was nervous as hell the entire time. It wasn't till I hit the New Hampshire border that I finally breathed a sigh of relief that a piece of American history, and the reason my family is even around today made safely to its new home.

Ironically, on the day he gifted me the pistol, his Veteran Preservation Interview was accepted into the Library of Congress. When the interviewer stopped by to let him know, he smiled like I hadn't seen in a long, long time. It melted my heart.

Picture of the pistol:
https://tinyurl.com/yak7v2zv

Posted by: Defenestratus at March 11, 2018 09:04 PM (yG6Vk)

141 The rifle is shipped to a local dealer for pick-up?


To your house.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 09:04 PM (yQpMk)

142 Carry permits of course are utterly arbitrary, in that each sheriff gets to decide who gets them, and most/all of coastal CA is "not likely to issue" territory.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:38 PM (QDnY+)

Here in coastal CA the sheriffs will in fact issue, as long as you're one of their mega donors.

Posted by: Surfperch at March 11, 2018 09:05 PM (IUM2p)

143 136 So, on the CMP thing:

http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/eligibility-requirements/
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 09:04 PM (yQpMk)

Thanks for the link. I lost the thread where it was originally posted.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 11, 2018 09:05 PM (ycWCI)

144 Just fully stripped the M1 I usually shoot last weekend, first time in over a year. Had no function issues, just OCD I guess. Actually, apart from the carbon fouling on the bottom of the op rod, and the brass "dust" in the magazine well ...... not really very dirty. After probably around 500 rounds through it. Some HXP, some reloads.


I lucked out, got beautiful USGI wood stocks, they are appropriate to the receiver and barrel date - dark, with just enough dings and wear to have the "look". But wood is in great shape, and metal is near perfect cosmetically.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:05 PM (QDnY+)

145 118 I can't believe this happened again. What the hell is wrong with Britain? Wish these girls would have had somebody protecting them.

https://tinyurl.com/y9uryhzh
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 11, 2018 08:41 PM (r+sAi)

Rotherham redux. It's because the fucking disgusting pig savages who are abusing these girls are goat-fucking Mohammedans and therefore a protected class.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 09:06 PM (NWiLs)

146 Let's expand this discussion from guns to shelves and gun shelves.

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2018 08:53 PM (bJ0w+)


Nice try, world-renowned blogger Ace of Spades, you erudite and virile Adonis. Nice try indeed.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 11, 2018 09:06 PM (y87Qq)

147 >>>So I should clean them up and post pics, huh?<<<

If you have one of those deep water submarine drone thingies like the Microsoft dude, - that's awesome! I tried to locate my squirrel rifle in the lake, but alas, it was too deep and dangerous.

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2018 09:07 PM (bJ0w+)

148 Aetius451AD @ 101 - M14 is mag fed. Too lazy to pull
my M1A1 out of the safe to see if the receiver will load via stripper
clip from the top.

Posted by: Butch at March 11, 2018 08:56 PM (hXu8T)
---
the M-14 could take stripper clips to top off or re-charge a magazine... lemme go see if i can find one in the toy box w/o too much digging to see if there's one on the M1A version, but, IIRC, there is.




Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2018 09:07 PM (JdMqP)

149 Guns your enemy knows you won't use is no deterrent.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 11, 2018 09:00 PM (z79tQ)


Exactly. Like the Broward Cowards.

I have no illusions that the tactics used to shut up the cops in Britian will not be attempted here. In Britian cops aren't even doing enough to prevent knife attacks. Elizabeth Hurley's model nephew was knifed recently. Absolutely no description given of attacker, and police had no leads.

Loverly.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at March 11, 2018 09:08 PM (iS/NP)

150 Posted by: Defenestratus at March 11, 2018 09:04 PM (yG6Vk)

Great story and piece of history that I'm glad to be preserved.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 11, 2018 09:08 PM (2DOZq)

151 That is a full semi automatic Derringer

Posted by: NewsWeek at March 11, 2018 09:09 PM (h1jJh)

152 Posted by: Defenestratus at March 11, 2018 09:04 PM (yG6Vk)
-----
What a great story! I will shoot you myself if you ever sell that pistol.

Posted by: Weasel at March 11, 2018 09:10 PM (MVjcR)

153 CMP delivery depends on state. Both my M-1s came via home courier delivery - which was great. To do that now, in CA, requires a federal curious/relics license (easy to get), plus a CA card you get via being fingerprinted. So, not the end of the world, but it used to just take the federal license. All my Mosins arrived via The Brown Truck of Happiness, otherwise known as UPS. Got my driver interested, he started buying them too. He couldn't believe these nice historic rifles cost $100, and (then) the ammo 20 cents/round.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:10 PM (QDnY+)

154 45 118 I can't believe this happened again. What the hell is wrong with Britain? Wish these girls would have had somebody protecting them.

https://tinyurl.com/y9uryhzh
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 11, 2018 08:41 PM (r+sAi)

Rotherham redux. It's because the fucking disgusting pig savages who are abusing these girls are goat-fucking Mohammedans and therefore a protected class.
Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 09:06 PM (NWiLs)


"All is takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

And that is what we are seeing.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at March 11, 2018 09:10 PM (iS/NP)

155 Here's a bonus question. Is it an assault rifle for purposes of Andy Homo's NY SAFE Act?

I seem to recall that magazines larger then seven rounds was part of the analysis

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 11, 2018 09:10 PM (lQhc7)

156 If you've been thinking about trying your hand at three gun, you might want to avoid this video of thirteen year-old Katelyn Francis. It could wreck your self-esteem.

https://tinyurl.com/navxght

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 11, 2018 09:10 PM (398bZ)

157 A friend stopped over to show me his new toy, a Ruger Precision Rifle in .308, with a can!
A very nice (expensive) thing...

https://tinyurl.com/yc8caxzr

Posted by: ChrisP at March 11, 2018 09:12 PM (JBhqx)

158 I wish it were possible to load a Mini-14 from the top as with the Garand... I've seen attachments that have been sold in the past, and some that were hand-made that accept common 10-round strips that do that -- sort of...

Oh, and did I mention that the the NY S.A.F.E. Act is an abomination unto the Lord?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at March 11, 2018 09:13 PM (e9G8E)

159 Posted by: Defenestratus at March 11, 2018 09:04 PM (yG6Vk)


What a moving story.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at March 11, 2018 09:13 PM (iS/NP)

160 Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 11, 2018 09:10 PM (398bZ)

o_0

Fuck me runnin', that shotgun is taller than she is. Probably weighs more, too.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 11, 2018 09:13 PM (y87Qq)

161 Defenestratus, ditto, awesome story.


And so depressing and infuriating that you essentially were "smuggling" your own constitutionally protected property, which also happened to be an historic artifact of the nation's greatest achievement in arms, INSIDE the country.


Muldoon, whose father was in field artillery at Anzio (I think), would be interested in this.



Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:15 PM (QDnY+)

162 156 If you've been thinking about trying your hand at three gun, you might want to avoid this video of thirteen year-old Katelyn Francis. It could wreck your self-esteem.

https://tinyurl.com/navxght
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 11, 2018 09:10 PM (398bZ)

Kid's good.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 09:15 PM (NWiLs)

163 Isn't this what Patton called the best weapon of WWII?

I would have picked the B-29 with napalm myself

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 11, 2018 09:15 PM (lQhc7)

164 " That's an M1 garand with the clip inserted and ready to be pushed in.

Watch that thumb!"

Also known as "M1 thumb."

Posted by: Mike K at March 11, 2018 09:16 PM (s170V)

165 Posted by: Defenestratus at March 11, 2018 09:04 PM (yG6Vk)

Amazing story.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 09:16 PM (NWiLs)

166 A very nice (expensive) thing...


Niiice.

I noticed this week that Ruger will now sell you an integrally suppressed barrel for your 10/22 TD.

http://bit.ly/2HrMhwe

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 09:16 PM (yQpMk)

167 The gun problem explained with cats.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=WxwPcUh97oc

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at March 11, 2018 09:17 PM (+y/Ru)

168 Insomniac I don't know the details of the horrible NY law, but the M-1 has an internal magazine, which sort of exempted it from all the semi-auto rifle laws and proposals I've seen. Detachable mags have always been specified as a feature of the evil rifles targeted by these noble laws.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:17 PM (QDnY+)

169 140 That is the best story I've read in a long time.
And I understand that your relation probably had misgivings about the whole thing later. People don't like to think about it, but some of European history is Christian on Christian fratricide.
Not all Germans were Christians but many were and are.

Posted by: navybrat at March 11, 2018 09:18 PM (w7KSn)

170 >>>You're just not trying hard enough, pilgrim.

burnin' daylight too

Posted by: concrete girl at March 11, 2018 09:18 PM (SJBL7)

171 You chose old school.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 11, 2018 09:04 PM (2DOZq)


True, I did like the fact that they were WWII vintage firearms. We think there might still be a M1911 hidden somewhere but we didn't find it (we remember it from decades ago) but the Old Man is losing his battle with dementia and isn't able to tell us.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 11, 2018 09:18 PM (5Yee7)

172 CMP. It's not hard, at all, and they'll never be cheaper. AND you get a certified safe/operable rifle, with the best imaginable customer service on any issues or problems. Best deal in America, really.

Rhomboid, I just found my Dad's receipt from when he bought his DCM Garand in the 80s. $95.

I'll just leave that there.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 11, 2018 09:18 PM (oA7a8)

173 I'm not at home so here's a long link to something ya'll should subscribe to (Kirsten Joy Weiss):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVoZWNrLlwl7Gv_2ji9Csng
The link I provided with my name is to Kirsten Joy Weiss' website.

Posted by: Oxrock at March 11, 2018 09:18 PM (e38yR)

174 Ignoramus, I think Patton's quote was "the greatest battle implement ever devised".

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:19 PM (QDnY+)

175 just looked: the AR Sales M1A does NOT take stripper clips. the Fed Ord one is buried in another box, so ima not go there today.

as a side not, the G-43 DOES take stripper clips, even though it's mag fed.

go figure...

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2018 09:20 PM (JdMqP)

176 156 If you've been thinking about trying your hand at three gun, you might want to avoid this video of thirteen year-old Katelyn Francis. It could wreck your self-esteem.

https://tinyurl.com/navxght
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 11, 2018 09:10 PM (398bZ)

A buddy of mine is an instructor for a local self defense/shooting club. He said when he was trying out for the job, a 16 year old girl who was taking the class with his Dad kicked his ass up one side of the range and down the other (and just for flavor, I believe he said she was shooting a 1911.)


God made all men, Sam Colt made them equal.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 11, 2018 09:20 PM (ycWCI)

177 CMP. It's not hard, at all, and they'll never be cheaper.
I'll just leave that there.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState


Best joke I've heard all day.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 11, 2018 09:20 PM (KXVP7)

178 This book explains which gun and what gun to use when you're gunning for T. rex.

http://amzn.to/2p2ZzIJ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at March 11, 2018 09:21 PM (+y/Ru)

179 CMP. It's not hard, at all, and they'll never be cheaper.

You are limited to 8 per year.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 09:22 PM (yQpMk)

180 And B-29s were wonderful, but couldn't take and hold territory. M-1s were a lot more useful for that, which is sort of the basic currency of fighting a real war with unconditional surrender of rogue regimes as the goal.



Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:22 PM (QDnY+)

181 167 The gun problem explained with cats.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=WxwPcUh97oc
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at March 11, 2018 09:17 PM (+y/Ru)

I give this an R rating. R for Retarded.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 09:22 PM (NWiLs)

182 go figure...
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2018 09:20 PM (JdMqP)

Huh. I got that from a Hickok45 video. Although that may have been an M-14 he was doing it with. IIRC, it was very stiff and he got the clip jammed when he tried it. He was able to get it to work with another M-14, I think.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 11, 2018 09:23 PM (ycWCI)

183 A buddy of mine is an instructor for a local self defense/shooting club. He said when he was trying out for the job, a 16 year old girl who was taking the class with his Dad kicked his ass up one side of the range and down the other (and just for flavor, I believe he said she was shooting a 1911.)

In basic, my Drill Sergeant said women usually make better shooting students than men, because "you limp-dick sonsabitches think you already know everything about shooting."

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 11, 2018 09:24 PM (398bZ)

184 174. This would surely be a close second, no?

https://youtu.be/SOMimmZel2g

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 11, 2018 09:25 PM (fA1SL)

185 Past my bedtime. Have a good night everyone.

Posted by: Weasel at March 11, 2018 09:25 PM (MVjcR)

186 Doubt we'll see M-1 prices appreciate as much as they have from DCM days any time soon, but in many markets the rifles are worth quite a bit more than you paid for them the minute they hit your porch. I know CMP attempts to not leave money on the table, but they do. In CA last time I checked, a typical service grade M-1 was going for a healthy premium over its CMP price.



Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:25 PM (QDnY+)

187 Night Weasel.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 11, 2018 09:26 PM (ycWCI)

188 That nasty little David Hogg has a stupid sister getting in on the act now. She attacked Dana Loesch's motherhood on twitter.

In better news, survivors of the Sutherlamd Springs shooting are arming up. One man was shot 8 times, which damaged his shooting arm, so he's at the Intrepid Center for wounded warriors taking physical therapy and learning how to use his left hand to shoot. They have a firearms training simulator there.

https://tinyurl.com/ya5j8n9d

Posted by: stace at March 11, 2018 09:30 PM (6HFDU)

189 Looks like an M-1 Garand rapid fire magazine clip.

Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2018 09:36 PM (sdi6R)

190 In basic, my Drill Sergeant said women usually make better shooting students than men, because "you limp-dick sonsabitches think you already know everything about shooting."
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 11, 2018 09:24 PM (398bZ)


Mrs Cop has taken several courses targeted towards novice female shooters and has learned a lot. She decided she was ready to go shooting with me last weekend. I plinked a little with my Ruger Single Six but mainly just helped her get familiar with the pistol she wants to carry concealed; a Beretta Nano 9mm. At 10 feet she got several hits directly in the bullseye and all were in the black.

It was the first time she had shot anything bigger than a .22 and she did pretty good.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 11, 2018 09:37 PM (5Yee7)

191 from a longtime lurker:
Horde,
Mom is in the hospital the second time in a week and a half. I am stoic and yet beside myself.Does that make any sense? I'm not asking for prayers since this most likely the last go round for her.
Mainly I just wanted say that y'all feel like community and(dare I say it ?) family. Thanks for that.

Posted by: Nick Danger,Third Eye at March 11, 2018 09:40 PM (c1JKE)

192 130 So, on the CMP thing:

1) You join a club (NRA, something like that?)
2) Mail in your money and order form with ID like a passport photocopy.
3) The rifle is shipped to a local dealer for pick-up?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 11, 2018 09:02 PM (ycWCI)


Look at the CMP page for full details, but you're pretty close. The NRA doesn't count as a "club", but many other organizations do, for example some state firearms organizations do. You also need to demonstrate some sort of firearms activity. Being an honorably discharged veteran counts, as does a carry permit. Also, they ship directly to you home via FedEx, with an adult signature required. No FFL needed.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at March 11, 2018 09:40 PM (DNH+H)

193 G'Night, Weasel.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at March 11, 2018 09:41 PM (Ckg4U)

194 If you've been thinking about trying your hand at three gun, you might
want to avoid this video of thirteen year-old Katelyn Francis. It could
wreck your self-esteem.



https://tinyurl.com/navxght

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 11, 2018 09:10 PM (398bZ)





Apparently she's in college now, but still competing: https://tinyurl.com/y9fq6ru6

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 11, 2018 09:42 PM (yzxic)

195 I just noticed something else about that pic (while reloading the page for the 8th time hoping the hamsters were back on line).

The clip is loaded with the top round to the left. IIRC that was not the way they were loaded originally but was done as work-around for something, maybe the notorious "seventh round stoppage."

My first M1 was my "one per lifetime" DCM rifle. Some time between when RMBS's dad got his in the 80s and I got mine in the early 90s, the price went up to, I think, $165.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at March 11, 2018 09:42 PM (7oUUT)

196
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Posted by: X-ray at March 11, 2018 09:43 PM (4fiCC)

197 Clearly, educational film showing reform methods of Slavic master race broke the blog. So I will repost.

https://youtu.be/syMhJMmGEIc

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 11, 2018 09:44 PM (fA1SL)

198 Mods to my Marlin XT-22 bolt gun:

1. Installed a Kydex adjustable cheek riser from Matthews Fabrication ( available from Amazon).
2. Installed an EGW 20 MOA rail ( aluminum ) available from Midway. Used a Glue Stick to bed the rail. You don't want to mix steel and aluminum components on a scope mount - thermal expansion problems can throw your sights off.

Still working on adjusting the cheek riser to get a neutral - straight back recoil for optimum accuracy. Whenever you improve a rifle its accuracy first goes down before it can improve with correct adjustment of the new equipment.

Going to put a similar cheek riser on my 700 Remington Long Range in 300 Win mag ( already have the riser ) just running the experiment on the .22 first.

Using an alcohol wipe ( I'm using Zeiss lens cleaners ) to clean the crown of a .22 is very important to getting the most accuracy. The ammo for .22 is pretty dirty and a lot of gunk winds up on the muzzle crown where it effects accuracy. The crown on rifles is critical to accuracy since turbulence in the gasses as the emerge from the muzzle can wobble the bullet.

Posted by: An Observation at March 11, 2018 09:44 PM (cMwj2)

199 Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 11, 2018 09:10 PM (398bZ)




Apparently she's in college now, but still competing: https://tinyurl.com/y9fq6ru6



Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 11, 2018 09:42 PM (yzxic)


And here's a FB video she posted recently: https://tinyurl.com/y8t92zyk

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 11, 2018 09:45 PM (yzxic)

200 191 from a longtime lurker:
Horde,
Mom is in the hospital the second time in a week and a half. I am stoic and yet beside myself.Does that make any sense? I'm not asking for prayers since this most likely the last go round for her.
Mainly I just wanted say that y'all feel like community and(dare I say it ?) family. Thanks for that.
Posted by: Nick Danger,Third Eye at March 11, 2018 09:40 PM (c1JKE)

Godspeed man. Hang in there.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 09:45 PM (NWiLs)

201 Bob I think it works either way - top round left or right - correct? I've never had any malfunctions with my M-1s, and load the clips with top round on right, but that's mostly for convenience when pressing down with the right hand.


And as the ONT looms, I really should go continue my current project, re-shellacking two Mosin stocks.



Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:47 PM (QDnY+)

202 want to avoid this video of thirteen year-old Katelyn Francis. It could
wreck your self-esteem.



https://tinyurl.com/navxght

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 11, 2018 09:10 PM (398bZ)




Apparently she's in college now, but still competing: https://tinyurl.com/y9fq6ru6
Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at March 11, 2018 09:42 PM (yzxic)

And she's cute, too!

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 09:47 PM (NWiLs)

203 Look at the CMP page for full details, but you're pretty close. The NRA doesn't count as a "club", but many other organizations do, for example some state firearms organizations do.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at March 11, 2018 09:40 PM (DNH+H)


The Garand Collectors' Association counts. The requirement is: a check for $25.

http://thegca.org/

Though, if you aren't ex-military and have to show participation in a qualifying event, it might make more sense to do a weekend rifle shoot with your local club and knock out both requirements at one time anyway.

http://thecmp.org/clubs/search-clubs/

Posted by: hogmartin at March 11, 2018 09:47 PM (y87Qq)

204 I just poked things on the server. Let's see if that helps things...

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 11, 2018 09:47 PM (2yngH)

205 144
I lucked out, got beautiful USGI wood stocks, they are appropriate to the receiver and barrel date - dark, with just enough dings and wear to have the "look". But wood is in great shape, and metal is near perfect cosmetically.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:05 PM (QDnY+)


I got one late last year, in really good shape. The receiver serial number is from Sept 1944 and the wood looks almost brand new. It doesn't seem to have any markings on the stock. The tag says the barrel gauged 0 / 0, which I think means no wear at all. I'm very happy with it, although I've only shot it once because of crappy weather.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at March 11, 2018 09:47 PM (DNH+H)

206 And this Red Gibberish problem is endemic now. Seems to kick in every 5 minutes or so. And just as suddenly vanish.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:48 PM (QDnY+)

207 204 I just poked things on the server. Let's see if that helps things...
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 11, 2018 09:47 PM (2yngH)

We tried to tell you letting the hamsters unionize was a mistake.

Posted by: Insomniac - chopped liver at March 11, 2018 09:48 PM (NWiLs)

208 We tried to tell you letting the hamsters unionize was a mistake.

Should have used the ferrets as strike breakers.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 09:49 PM (yQpMk)

209 Iowa Bob, maybe it is a new stock? I thought most service grades were shipping with new stocks now, but not sure. A reading of 0/0 is seriously nice, and is basically new. What's the date on the barrel? Must have been pulled out of storage, an unused one, to build your rifle. Or at least that seems possible.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:50 PM (QDnY+)

210 TWEEeeng

I'm very disappointed at my "true" conservatives in Florida and many other states/national seats.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at March 11, 2018 09:50 PM (pw+jk)

211 M-1 Garand ... clip is loaded with AP/Incendiary rounds, staggered. Looks like a National Match rear sight but could be the standard-issue peep. I sold all my AP / I rounds at a gun show 'cos, even tho' they're civvy-legal to own, I didn't want my daughter to worry about what to do with 'em once I shut my pretty little eyes. There's no place to fire 'em here, and they had corrosive primers. Win-win.

Posted by: Dr_No at March 11, 2018 09:50 PM (imDUY)

212 201. Ahh.....the joys of shellac. Using an amber or seedlac?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 11, 2018 09:50 PM (fA1SL)

213 A buddy of mine is an instructor for a local self defense/shooting club.
He said when he was trying out for the job, a 16 year old girl who was
taking the class with his Dad kicked his ass up one side of the range
and down the other (and just for flavor, I believe he said she was
shooting a 1911.)


Women don't try to muscle the gun and instinctively understand the natural line of fire - both of which are difficult for men to learn.

Posted by: An Observation at March 11, 2018 09:51 PM (cMwj2)

214 (((HUGS))) Nick. Prayers for your mom to go gently to heaven if it is her time and for divine strength and comfort for you and all her family and friends.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at March 11, 2018 09:52 PM (XTI6n)

215 Jukin .... what specifically about FL - age-limit law?


Palp - just store-bought amber, with two colorants from Rockler's wood working shop. A burgundy and a brown. Will just experiment til I get a color that's reasonably similar to what one finds on Soviet re-arsenaled rifles (which itself covers quite a range).



Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:53 PM (QDnY+)

216 >>>I just poked things on the server. Let's see if that helps things...

Posted by: Pixy Misa<<<

You dirty dog, you. Some things are best not discussed in polite company.

Posted by: Fritz at March 11, 2018 09:53 PM (bJ0w+)

217 186 Doubt we'll see M-1 prices appreciate as much as they have from DCM days any time soon, but in many markets the rifles are worth quite a bit more than you paid for them the minute they hit your porch. I know CMP attempts to not leave money on the table, but they do. In CA last time I checked, a typical service grade M-1 was going for a healthy premium over its CMP price.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:25 PM (QDnY+)


I see quite a few at gun shows, always at least a couple of hundred buck more than the CMP price. I imagine a few people buy their 8 per year and try to make a few bucks by reselling them.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at March 11, 2018 09:54 PM (DNH+H)

218 215. Probably the easiest way, which ia, of course, best and most Slav way.

Seedlac is more durable, but much harder to dissolve, even with pure spirits and a bit of gentle heat. But it's the most durable.

Wartime, I shudder to think what priority was assigned to shellac qc.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 11, 2018 09:55 PM (fA1SL)

219
Carry permits of course are utterly arbitrary, in that each sheriff gets to decide who gets them, and most/all of coastal CA is "not likely to issue" territory.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 08:38 PM (QDnY+)

Here in coastal CA the sheriffs will in fact issue, as long as you're one of their mega donors.
Posted by: Surfperch at March 11, 2018 09:05 PM (IUM2p)








Yep. In fact, Orange County CA Sheriff Mike Carona was apparently selling CCW permits during his tenure about 12 years or so ago (among a lot of other corrupt, nefarious shit he was up to). To make matters worse, his successor as Sheriff, some lefty scrunt cop, began revoking a shitload of CCW permits.

And oh wow, turns out that the ones she revoked first were all the county GOP officials. Weird how that happened. Coincidence, I'm sure.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 11, 2018 09:55 PM (eXA4G)

220 I linked this air rifle earlier because it's on my no-good-reason-but-I-want-one list

https://www.airgundepot.com/airforce-texan-ss.html

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 09:56 PM (yQpMk)

221 *waves at Pixy*

This is still the best comments site on the internet. Thanks for all you do.

Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2018 09:57 PM (sdi6R)

222 Our previous story came from Virginia. Our next story does as well. Congressional candidate doesn't know gun laws and makes an ass out of herself.

I read comments across the internet on this and it was fascinating.

Mallard clearly broke the law, though it is a technicality.

People on the right are calling for her to be prosecuted.

People on the left are saying it doesn't matter if she broke the actual law, she didn't mean any harm.

Now, this is interesting, because the debate we have right now as whether current gun laws are sufficient. Clearly if we have gun laws that we don't even actually need - the argument the left is making here - then we don't need any new gun laws. And in fact we should be repealing restrictions on gun related civil rights.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 11, 2018 09:58 PM (Z8FFX)

223 I'm done. Up at 0400, work, don't ya' know.

Posted by: Eromero at March 11, 2018 09:59 PM (zLDYs)

224 215 & 218. I've seen and only ever once used ruby shellac. I'd imagine there was some standard formula for combining amber and ruby shellac, which Anatoli ignored because supervisor Vadim was too drunk to care.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 11, 2018 09:59 PM (fA1SL)

225 Dude, the A-10 video had me as soon as that 30 mike mike started firing.

Thanks for the memories.

Arms Merchant, aka Hurricane LaFawnduh, former Hog Driver back when men were men and xer was some Chinese guy.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at March 11, 2018 09:59 PM (m1sqA)

226 Defenestratus... i too think that's an awesome story, and so glad the
history was saved, instead of being turned in for a gift card.

who is the pistol manufactured by?

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2018 10:00 PM (JdMqP)

227
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Posted by: X-ray at March 11, 2018 09:43 PM (4fiCC)




I have that T-Shirt. Gets laughs at the range.

Now I just need a Garand to go with it, but I be poor at the moment.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 11, 2018 10:00 PM (eXA4G)

228 Nood - ONT - hamsters after dark

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 11, 2018 10:00 PM (fA1SL)

229 Oh, I also saw Boss Hogg and his sister have come up with the brilliant idea of wearing NAZI armbands but in red instead of black.

BRILLIANT!

https://i1.wp.com/squawker.org/wp-content/uploads/4T4Wwj.jpg?fit=505%2C378&ssl=1

Posted by: 18-1 at March 11, 2018 10:00 PM (Z8FFX)

230 Nick, thanks for your post and hope your strength holds. I know it will, if you rely on your power outside yourself.





Thank you Pixy. I think you may have fixed it!

Posted by: booknlass at March 11, 2018 10:01 PM (xGMkv)

231 209 Iowa Bob, maybe it is a new stock? I thought most service grades were shipping with new stocks now, but not sure. A reading of 0/0 is seriously nice, and is basically new. What's the date on the barrel? Must have been pulled out of storage, an unused one, to build your rifle. Or at least that seems possible.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 09:50 PM (QDnY+)


I don't know the barrel date, is it marked on it, or do I need to look it up via serial number like the receiver? The stock could be brand new, I didn't see any markings or stamps on it, nor any signs of wear.
One of the parts, I think it was the operating rod, is stamped "NM". Is that National Match? Is that a desirable thing, or just a result of pulling parts of a big pile?

OK, now I'm off to the safe to take a closer look at it.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at March 11, 2018 10:02 PM (DNH+H)

232 Palp I'm no shellac expert but from what I've seen and heard it seems one problem in replicating the Soviet arsenal shellac is that we don't have any of similar low quality. I know my re-shellacked rifles don't chip away the way many of the untouched ones do. Just do it mostly for fun, like the look of a clean cosmetically sweet rifle.


At some point I may do an oil finish on one of them - a few of my stocks are very nice examples of arctic birch and would look very nice with an oil finish.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 10:02 PM (QDnY+)

233 Here's some wild trivia I just tripped over.

"Alex Rocco". The guy who played Moe Greene in Godfather who gets shot through the eye, was an Italian mobster in Boston associated with the mostly Irish Winter Hill gang before he changed his name and ran away to Hollywood. You see the brother of the head of a rival Irish gang made a pass at Rocco's girlfriend, which escalated into the Irish Gang Wars of the 1960s. Whitey Bulger later took over the Winter Hill gang.

In Hollywood he got acting advice -- "lose the Boston accent" -- from another Boston refugee -- Leonard Nimoy.


Posted by: Ignoramus at March 11, 2018 10:03 PM (pV/54)

234 222
People on the right are calling for her to be prosecuted.

People on the left are saying it doesn't matter if she broke the actual law, she didn't mean any harm.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 11, 2018 09:58 PM (Z8FFX)


Liberals think that obeying the law is optional. They only obey laws they agree with.

Posted by: rickl at March 11, 2018 10:04 PM (sdi6R)

235 We're ONT-nooded, but Iowa Bob, no expert, but "NM" should indeed be National Match, and is never a bad thing.


To find the barrel date, rack back and lock the bolt - the stampings will then be visible. And always be sure to lock back that bolt FULLY - looking down, you should not be able to see any part of the bolt peeking out beyond the top edge of the receiver when it's locked back. Failure to lock back all the way is the direct cause of most "M1 thumb" incidents. They don't happen during loading.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 10:05 PM (QDnY+)

236 CMP. It's not hard, at all, and they'll never be cheaper.

I'll just leave that there.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState



Best joke I've heard all day.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 11, 2018 09:20 PM


Blew my mind. The shipping and admin fees were almost as much as the price of the rifle. LOL He stripped the stock and put a nice oil finish on it, too. Beautiful rifle.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 11, 2018 10:05 PM (oA7a8)

237 BTW: the CMP has/is getting ~100K Garands, not counting the ones in Korea, which also has ~600K M1 Carbines...

https://bearingarms.com/patrick-r/2018/03/01/100k-m1-
garands-to-be-released/

*that* should drop the prices some, but, since they now have to be "self-supporting", i doubt prices will ever get back to "the good old days".

also, if you live in #Failifornia, rifles have to go to an FFL, because everyone knows Garands are the school shooter/gang banger weapon of choice.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2018 10:07 PM (JdMqP)

238 It's the thing that goes up.
Posted by: tu3031 at March 11, 2018 08:58 PM

Well, hello there!

Posted by: Former President Cock Curious at March 11, 2018 10:08 PM (2NqXo)

239 Failure to lock back all the way is the direct cause of most "M1 thumb" incidents. They don't happen during loading.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 10:05 PM (QDnY+)
---
unless, of course, you push the en-bloc clip down from the *side* of the receiver, which is natural, instead of the rear, which is a learned trait... usually *after* you get your thumb smashed a few times...

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 11, 2018 10:10 PM (JdMqP)

240 This seems like the place to mention that I won a Ruger, 7mm Magnum, rifle in a raffle this week.

Posted by: French Jeton at March 11, 2018 10:11 PM (Fjvqd)

241 This seems like the place to mention that I won a Ruger, 7mm Magnum, rifle in a raffle this week.

Nice. I am never that lucky, though probably because I don't buy a ticket.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 11, 2018 10:12 PM (yQpMk)

242 235 We're ONT-nooded, but Iowa Bob, no expert, but "NM" should indeed be National Match, and is never a bad thing.

To find the barrel date, rack back and lock the bolt - the stampings will then be visible.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 10:05 PM (QDnY+)


I see "8 65 MD43" on the barrel, in the area which is under the operating rod when the bolt is closed. I assume this indicates "August 1965"? That seems rather late for an M1, but might explain why the barrel gauges brand new.

And I'm in the group of M1 shooters who haven't slammed the bolt closed on their thumb . . . yet.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at March 11, 2018 10:13 PM (DNH+H)

243 Bob I think it works either way - top round left or right - correct?

You could be correct. I just have this vague recollection of it being mentioned in Hatcher's book. I have no idea where my copy is so I can't go look it up.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at March 11, 2018 10:16 PM (7oUUT)

244 The service grade Garand I got last year had a new stock and barrel. IIRC, the receiver was 1950s in fantastic condition. I regard it as a new rifle and it acts like one. Don't know if I lucked out or if this is common right now.

Posted by: JTB at March 11, 2018 10:17 PM (V+03K)

245 We shouldered M-1s in parade at the Air Force Academy. I never did figure out why they made future pilots do that.

Now it seems kind of cool, but at the time I was wondering why I wasn't just packing a snub-nose Police .38 survival pistol.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at March 11, 2018 10:21 PM (m1sqA)

246 240 This seems like the place to mention that I won a Ruger, 7mm Magnum, rifle in a raffle this week.
Posted by: French Jeton at March 11, 2018 10:11 PM (Fjvqd)


Dang, that's only like the coolest raffle prizes ever.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at March 11, 2018 10:25 PM (m1sqA)

247 What is that? Possibly the most over rated battle rifle of all time. ( Ducks for cover ) Good in the fact is a semi during the age of bolties, but some very bad points.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at March 11, 2018 10:29 PM (bgJ0E)

248 242 235

To find the barrel date, rack back and lock the bolt - the stampings will then be visible.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2018 10:05 PM (QDnY+)

I see "8 65 MD43" on the barrel, in the area which is under the operating rod when the bolt is closed. I assume this indicates "August 1965"? That seems rather late for an M1, but might explain why the barrel gauges brand new.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at March 11, 2018 10:13 PM (DNH+H)


Looking around the net, I found this note : "Springfield Armory last made replacement M1 Garand barrels in 1967. The facility was closed down in early 1968.".

Posted by: Iowa Bob at March 11, 2018 10:30 PM (DNH+H)

249 In the unlikely case anyone is still reading this thread and gives a flip about how M1 clips are loaded, I found this

https://tinyurl.com/ydapqb7r (Link to calguns.net)

The last post on the page refers to what I was thinking about.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at March 11, 2018 10:44 PM (7oUUT)

250 Posted by: Arms Merchant at March 11, 2018 10:21 PM (m1sqA)

What do you fly?

Posted by: Bill R. at March 11, 2018 10:45 PM (IuYIh)

251 You don't have to be a military guy to recognize that clip ~ bing ~. I saw the movie.

Posted by: gNewt at March 11, 2018 10:58 PM (lrKc+)

252 Dang, I'd forgotten the Garand magazine was inserted from the top. I need to go back and check the definitive source of information on WWII small unit weaponry, "Combat" (A Quinn Martin Production). But now who'm I looking for? I think Little John carried the Garand every week. Kirby had the BAR, Saunders the Thompson, Caje preferred knives. Lt. Hanley carried a carbine in his jeep. That pretty much rounded up the squad except for Doc, and whoever the "red shirt" was in that episode.

Posted by: Born Free at March 11, 2018 10:58 PM (yR0mi)

253 Bandoliers for the M14 contained 60 rounds of 7.62 NATO in 5-round stripper clips. There was a clip guide on the receiver so you could load (or top up) a magazine from the clips while it was in the rifle. A separate sheet-metal clip guide was included in each bandolier to facilitate clip reloading of empty magazines not in the rifle. Normal basic load was five 20-round magazines, plus as many bandoliers as you felt like carrying.

Posted by: William Befort at March 11, 2018 11:19 PM (Ac1eM)

254 In lib land, that is a urine assault producing photo.

For normal Americans, an M1 Garand (watch that thumb!)
Did not recognize the AP type rounds.

I think there is another batch of those coming down the pipeline through the CMP. http://thecmp.org/

OT. Seems the new trend out in Calif is to keep chickens, with fancy coops and diapers for the birds. This in a state that tolerates homeless people that shit on the sidewalks.





Posted by: BoyNSea at March 12, 2018 12:34 AM (Kh5Q4)

255 M1 Grand

Posted by: Buffalobob at March 12, 2018 12:38 AM (3P5C1)

256 I was issued a M1, serial #1775417, at the Air Force Academy the summer of 1968, and owned it for 3 years. Never fired a live round (lots of blanks in field exercise, but mostly inspections and parades). Just this Thursday, I was out at the range, shooting my AR, and I heard "ping!" a few places down, and went right over and the young owner graciously let me load and fire a clip. It was very cool.

Posted by: C4C Squat Dooley at March 12, 2018 12:39 AM (fSf/G)

257 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 12, 2018 06:11 AM (hyuyC)

258 Rear sight set about 300 yards.

Posted by: Big Owl at March 12, 2018 09:34 PM (g+iKx)

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