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Trump: I Don't Want to Wait For Any Fancy-Pants Due Process Hearings Before Taking Guns Away from the Mentally Ill
Or Did He Say That?
Note to Trump: Courts are pretty fast about processing temporary restraining orders and if there's genuine evidence that someone is mentally ill or a threat to himself or others, that evidence will be readily presentable to the court.
There is, therefore, no need to take someone's guns away -- to take someone's constitutional rights as a citizen away -- without even a court hearing (which tends to be biased in favor of granting restraining orders in the first place). If there's no readily-presentable evidence that someone is making threats or mentally insane, maybe that's precisely the situation in which you'd want to be slow and deliberate about branding someone a sub-citizen. The most embarrassing part is that he said this nonsense to Pence, who tried to steer him back into a defensible place, but Trump kind of just ignored his Vice President and went back to his grab-the-guns talking point anyway. Alternative Take! Someone I trust saw this exchange in a different way. She sees Trump's reference to "due process in the courts" as a reference to a full hearing (up to an including a criminal trial), and that what Trump was trying to say -- inelegantly and maladroitly -- is that we need Gun Violence Restraining Orders as a speedier stop-gap. Taken this way, Trump was agreeing with the idea of GVRO, and his reference to not needing "due process" was intended to mean that sometimes we need intervention before a full criminal trial. But at a speedier restraining order hearing which would involve "due process," but wouldn't be as lengthy and as long-awaited as a criminal trial. He just put it, well, poorly. But in this interpretation, he wasn't saying we don't need "due process" at a TRO hearing; he meant we needed TROs until the full due process hearing of a criminal trial. This explanation would explain why Pence did not appear flummoxed by Trump's comment -- he just took Trump's comment as agreeing with his own, if in a somewhat Trumpian locution.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 28, 2018 07:36 PM (fqHZs)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 28, 2018 07:36 PM (fqHZs)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 28, 2018 07:36 PM (fqHZs)
Posted by: josephistan at February 28, 2018 07:37 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 28, 2018 07:37 PM (fqHZs)
Conservatives have been beaten and cheated and lied to for so long we assume that as the default mode of our leadership. Like abused children. Sad.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 07:38 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Steve Earle Song Ideas at February 28, 2018 07:39 PM (PvCxa)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 07:39 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Sharkman at February 28, 2018 07:39 PM (BfOXk)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, mourning Hope Hicks departure at February 28, 2018 07:39 PM (0Ng0w)
I am good with that.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 28, 2018 07:39 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: navybrat at February 28, 2018 07:40 PM (w7KSn)
Trifecta?
Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 28, 2018 07:36 PM
You win a get-out-of-the-barrel free card. Good for one week.
Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2018 07:40 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 07:40 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Traveling Man at February 28, 2018 07:40 PM (fIn37)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 28, 2018 07:40 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 28, 2018 07:40 PM (9fLwh)
Conservatives have been beaten and cheated and lied to for so long
we assume that as the default mode of our leadership. Like abused
children. Sad.
...
highfive (schmack!!)
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 07:40 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: Increasingly Nervous Man at February 28, 2018 07:41 PM (13PHl)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 28, 2018 07:41 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:41 PM (6nRrz)
Just how many amendments does that violate?
Go ahead, I say. Just do it. Shred that constitution completely.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 28, 2018 07:41 PM (roQNm)
Certain give aways, clues, like, oh, I don't know, making specific terrorist threats. 39 times.
Yeah, take the guns.
Posted by: navybrat at February 28, 2018 07:42 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 28, 2018 07:42 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2018 07:42 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:41 PM (6nRrz)
bam!
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 07:42 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, it's a dark day at February 28, 2018 07:42 PM (0Ng0w)
Posted by: Traveling Man at February 28, 2018 07:42 PM (fIn37)
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at February 28, 2018 07:42 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Cicero
Gelled sterno is much easier.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 28, 2018 07:43 PM (Yu4ah)
Did he also mis-speak when he asked Joe Manchin to draft up his bill and include Diane Feinstein's suggestion?
Oh her suggestion is a ban on all automatics.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:43 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at February 28, 2018 07:43 PM (0OmEj)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 28, 2018 07:43 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 07:44 PM (fA1SL)
522 The world is so full of mean, ugly and stupid, I think God was really taking care of my wife in getting her out of here.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 28, 2018 07:34 PM (nBr1j)
++++
Hope you are doing well, Northernlurker. Your comments are touching.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 28, 2018 07:41 PM (2sCft)
I think there's a lot of dust in the air around here.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 28, 2018 07:44 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: freaked at February 28, 2018 07:44 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Under Fire at February 28, 2018 07:44 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: E.T. at February 28, 2018 07:44 PM (nzKWW)
W00T! Off to go comment on the next thread prematurely!
Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 28, 2018 07:44 PM (fqHZs)
Seems pretty clear what we should be screening for.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, it's a dark day at February 28, 2018 07:44 PM (0Ng0w)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:44 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Country Boy
^^^^^^
This!
Because of skandia recluse at #23.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 28, 2018 07:44 PM (Yu4ah)
Did he also mis-speak when he asked Joe Manchin to draft up his bill and include Diane Feinstein's suggestion?
Oh her suggestion is a ban on all automatics.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:43 PM (6nRrz)
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Kinda puts Ol Joe in a tight spot, huh?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 28, 2018 07:44 PM (gC2IV)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 28, 2018 07:44 PM (KP5rU)
We all backfill and rationalize and look at the tangible ways in which he's done good. He has. I'm not disputing that. The destruction of the whole leftist apparatus is a good thing and he's doing that. But we're all basically intellectuals trying to provide cover for a guy who thinks from his lizard brain.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 28, 2018 07:45 PM (fuK7c)
*******
♫ ♪
Everybody's doing a brand new dance now.
Come on baby, do the Trump locution.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 28, 2018 07:45 PM (wPiJc)
we lost Hope Hicks today! HOPE HICKS!
Posted by: Huck Follywood, it's a dark day at February 28, 2018 07:42 PM
duckduckgo >> search "Hope Hicks" >> images >> safe search: off
all is well
Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2018 07:45 PM (EzdLW)
He isn't going to do anything the NRA doesn't OK first. That's his mode of operation on all things gun, he follows the experts because Trump doesn't know much about guns.
We've seen this movie before.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at February 28, 2018 07:45 PM (ywzxX)
'Bout a gallon and a half or so.
Posted by: Traveling Man at February 28, 2018 07:45 PM (fIn37)
Posted by: Fritz at February 28, 2018 07:45 PM (bJ0w+)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 28, 2018 07:45 PM (8zllH)
Posted by: Under Fire at February 28, 2018 07:45 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Country Boy at February 28, 2018 07:41 PM (/H4iN)
Neither am I. I have to many other things to worry about. I will worry about PDT and Guns when and if I ever have to. This little show today does not worry me. It's called co-opting your enemy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 07:46 PM (SjImc)
I'm more interested in what is done, than in what is said.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at February 28, 2018 07:46 PM (yi5ae)
Speaking of dogs, cats, and goldfish:
This is pretty good. Dog wants to sleep by the fireplace, but the cat is occupying the space. See who wins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnfdEDtMx-A
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 28, 2018 07:46 PM (9fLwh)
If he meant something different he needs to tweet that clarification now. That's what he usually does .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 07:46 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:46 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: DaveA at February 28, 2018 07:46 PM (FhXTo)
Oh her suggestion is a ban on all automatics.
Posted by: #neverskankles
I don't own any automatics.
I do own a few semi-autos.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 28, 2018 07:46 PM (Yu4ah)
How much gasoline will I need to bring my hair up to a nice even flame?
Posted by: Cicero
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Gelled sterno is much easier.
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Plus, the gel makes your hair look neater and much better combed until you light the match.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, it's a dark day at February 28, 2018 07:46 PM (0Ng0w)
The best part of that vid is how the dog "makes sure" the cat is really gone.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 28, 2018 07:46 PM (9fLwh)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 07:47 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 28, 2018 07:47 PM (8zllH)
Trump says YES, Take the Guns (GVRO, but to adroitly state that at the time just clouds the sound bite) ... but also give the due process in full, over time.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 28, 2018 07:47 PM (bT8Z4)
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 07:47 PM (n13/j)
Kinda puts Ol Joe in a tight spot, huh?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 28, 2018 07:44 PM (gC2IV)
Feinstein too.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 28, 2018 07:47 PM (lKyWE)
Or was that another move in his 17 dimensional chess game?
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:47 PM (6nRrz)
I am mildly surprised people cannot see that this as DACA redux. Only a lawless court stopped ICE from deporting Dreamers when March comes.
If the laws and Constitution are all flat... where do libs think they will hide, when Trump turns around on them?
Posted by: trev006 at February 28, 2018 07:48 PM (jRA31)
Posted by: Skip at February 28, 2018 07:48 PM (aC6Sd)
I've noticed there is a tendency to take every tweet he makes as literal as well.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2018 07:49 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: #neverskankles
I don't own any automatics.
I do own a few semi-autos.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 28, 2018 07:46 PM (Yu4ah)
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Semi-auto is what I should have written.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:49 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 07:47 PM (fA1SL)
Whoah. Did you hear something?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 28, 2018 07:49 PM (Mouru)
Two weeks from now he comes out and says: "I have listened to all sides. The lawyers have advised me regarding the constitutionality of all of the proposals. Unfortunately all of the proposals from our friends the Democrats have either been tried before and have failed, or they are simply unconstitutional.
We are going to do something different. We are going to secure our schools, amd defend our schools, and allow our citizens to keep their right to self defense."
Posted by: Sharkman at February 28, 2018 07:49 PM (BfOXk)
We make fun of being 'concerned' but I think it's justified now until he clarifies what he meant.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 07:49 PM (2DOZq)
Joe Manchin sponsoring a gun grab bill ends his Senate career. He is already in trouble. This will doom him.
The rhetoric Trump used is irrelevant. What is relevant is that he put the ball in the court of someone who really does not want it.
And any bill Feinstein has input in will crash and burn in the Congress. The lessons of 1992 still apply.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at February 28, 2018 07:50 PM (G8hDY)
Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 28, 2018 07:50 PM (GzDYP)
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 07:50 PM (MTjB1)
I'm more interested in what is done, than in what is said.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at February 28, 2018 07:46 PM (yi5ae)
I agree.
Posted by: rickl at February 28, 2018 07:50 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: dartist at February 28, 2018 07:50 PM (nisXv)
We make fun of being 'concerned' but I think it's justified now until he clarifies what he meant.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 07:49 PM (2DOZq)
I don't have the quote right, but it is something about "reading your own press". Not a good idea.
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (fA1SL)
Or was that another move in his 17 dimensional chess game?
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:47 PM (6nRrz)
I'm getting you're a "the glass is half-empty" kind of guy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (349nX)
46 Bill Kristol should stick to
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 28, 2018 07:44 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: _Jaybee_ at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (O3uss)
There's something fun linked in my sock if the concern becomes too much for you.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (ewxPW)
It has now been well established in last years Pokémon documentary, 'Pokémon the Movie: I Choose You!' that Pikachu CAN talk in complete sentences with normal vocabulary -especially when lives are on the line and heros are needed.
Thank you, that is all.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (ywzxX)
Posted by: Skip at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (aC6Sd)
Trump should listen to Pence as much as possible. Not a dig, but truth.
...
ZOMG!!
TRUMPZ GUNNA KILL US ALL!!
heh heh
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (x25VP)
But today he said he wants Manchin and Feinstein to write a bill, said the GOP doesn't have to fear the NRA and the due process thing.
One of those things I could say OK he fumbled his words. But all 3 things? That's a lot of fumbling.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: WitchDoktor
She will over-reach and be totally unconstitutional, or under-reach and her base will fry her.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 28, 2018 07:52 PM (Yu4ah)
Then she will disarm the men only. The constitution actually calls for a well armed Matriarchy, not a militia. Hillary looks matronly.
Posted by: Burger Chef at February 28, 2018 07:52 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at February 28, 2018 07:52 PM (G8hDY)
My, my, my, the air in here tonight is thick with ... concern!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 28, 2018 07:53 PM (pNxlR)
They're "on our side".
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 07:53 PM (yQpMk)
Or was that another move in his 17 dimensional chess game?
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:47 PM (6nRrz)
I'm getting you're a "the glass is half-empty" kind of guy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (Mouru)
___
When the glass is 7/8 empty....yeah.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:53 PM (6nRrz)
I think they're gonna need em soon.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at February 28, 2018 07:53 PM (ywzxX)
Plus, we already have procedures for involuntary commitment for the dangerous mentally ill on short notice. Why just take away guns via a GVRO but leave the dangerous person on the street to find another way to engage in mayhem?
Posted by: RS at February 28, 2018 07:53 PM (CNQqJ)
silver-tongued demagogue who brutalized our rights. Right now we're
beginning the second year of a relationship with a leaden-tongued brute
whose actions, so far, have been to champion our rights.
I'm more interested in what is done, than in what is said.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at February 28, 2018 07:46 PM (yi5ae)
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That take is pretty close to Joseph Epstein's Feb. 26 WSJ piece. Which I loathed while reading (LWR). Your "done, than in what is said" is far more generous than Epstein's take, though.
Posted by: mrp at February 28, 2018 07:53 PM (Pqytn)
I've noticed there is a tendency to take every tweet he makes as literal as well.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2018 07:49 PM
JackStraw, have you seen that video of Mike Pompeo on stage with Leon Panetta, with Pompeo saying that "we" (CIA? Trump IC? ) have written some of Trump's tweets specifically to see what sort of reaction they would get from parties of interest? I think he was speaking in context of the Norks.
Larger point being that: 1 ) Trump is not the author of all of realDonaldTrump's tweets, and 2 ) Some tweets have ulterior motives
Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2018 07:53 PM (EzdLW)
One thing I can guarantee: every day you will have a freak out.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 07:54 PM (yQpMk)
I'll say it again:
Keep your Friends close, Keep your Enemies Closer
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 07:54 PM (SjImc)
I've noticed.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2018 07:54 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 07:54 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2018 07:55 PM (349nX)
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 07:55 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: concerned Christian conservative at February 28, 2018 07:55 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:55 PM (6nRrz)
Then again - quick, name the big 4 votes in the Senate since Trump was elected that are national issue, nationalized election material.
Trick question! Aside from the scandalously failed O-care repeal, there's nothing. GOP doesn't do "politics" any more. So - very few votes, nobody ever walking the plank, nada.
In'shallah circumstances and fundamentals bring the election to the GOP, since the GOP (and WH) seem unlikely to actually campaign for it. Odds are good, but no way to run a railroad.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 28, 2018 07:55 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: concrete girl at February 28, 2018 07:55 PM (SJBL7)
*******
Leave the guns. Take the
Posted by: Muldoon at February 28, 2018 07:55 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 07:56 PM (yQpMk)
Schumer. Pelosi. Mcconell. Ryan.
Posted by: BluesFish at February 28, 2018 07:56 PM (3g9Il)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:55 PM (6nRrz)
When he actually signs a bill we all hate, get back to us
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 07:56 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Willi Cicci at February 28, 2018 07:56 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Johnny Eaglestallion at February 28, 2018 07:56 PM (JkygK)
Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 28, 2018 07:50 PM (GzDYP)
Uh, what?
Posted by: josephistan at February 28, 2018 07:57 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Eromero at February 28, 2018 07:57 PM (zLDYs)
I think he already said he would not take guns away, or something like that, but Trump is forcing him to be more specific. Dems will let him say anything to keep his seat.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 28, 2018 07:57 PM (bT8Z4)
It would be really nice if PDT decides to say screw the courts vis a vis Judge Macadamia Punchy Marbury/Madison.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 28, 2018 07:57 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: concerned Christian conservative at February 28, 2018 07:58 PM (x25VP)
No, but we're happy to inform you that your warranty is VOID.
Posted by: Toyota at February 28, 2018 07:58 PM (Mouru)
But the critical details, can't give you.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 28, 2018 07:58 PM (QDnY+)
Maybe it just stands out more?
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 28, 2018 07:58 PM (hUqh+)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February
well, what has he done wrong so far? what is the difference between the hyperventilating over this and his offers over legalizing dreamers with schumer?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 07:58 PM (MTjB1)
The man can do or say no wrong with some people.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:55 PM
Not everything he says or does is what he is doing or saying.
p.s. - read this in a Yogi Berra voice and it will sound better.
Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2018 07:58 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at February 28, 2018 07:58 PM (G8hDY)
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 28, 2018 07:59 PM (V3U1L)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 07:59 PM (yQpMk)
Just talking out my backside, because you know its the internet, but I tend to believe the first explanation. Why? Because every politician but one I have ever seen automatically go to the forget due process side. Even ones that write books and articles about preserving them. Both sides.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2018 07:59 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 28, 2018 07:59 PM (9fLwh)
...
PLEASE KEEP POSTING
I have made a FORTUNE betting against you on Wall Street.
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 07:59 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: navybrat at February 28, 2018 07:40 PM (w7KSn)
Now you tell me
Posted by: Zombie Michael Jackson at February 28, 2018 07:59 PM (spWXl)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 28, 2018 08:00 PM (PvFoN)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 08:00 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 28, 2018 08:00 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:55 PM (6nRrz)
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Uummm...No. Some people are simply aware that PDT is defined by his actions, not just his words. Come join us.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 08:00 PM (hP7r7)
There's something fun linked in my sock if the concern becomes too much for you.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (ewxPW)
First time that I've seen all three billboards and the tie-in to one of the films up for an award mentioned. Thanks!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 28, 2018 08:01 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM (6nRrz)
I would almost think he's forcing the dems to stand and be counted, and will get it on film. I hope that's what he's doing. He seems to play a good judas goat when it comes to the dems. If trump caves on guns he might as well find a new place to live in 2020.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 28, 2018 08:01 PM (aMlLZ)
I've got a S&W 38 that "blued" naturally.
It's wicked old school. Looks like a gun you'd see a cop on TV in the 70's carrying.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 28, 2018 08:01 PM (9fLwh)
Posted by: josephistan at February 28, 2018 07:57 PM (ANIFC)
Players getting banned from Magic The Gathering tourneys supposedly because of sjw smears. Some claim to be trying to out pedos, then getting targeted. I don't really know what to think of it yet.
Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 28, 2018 08:02 PM (GzDYP)
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:02 PM (ywzxX)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 28, 2018 08:02 PM (rnAwa)
It's wicked old school. Looks like a gun you'd see a cop on TV in the 70's carrying.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 28, 2018 08:01 PM (9fLwh)
I'd love to see it. Can you post a picture?
Posted by: Bob From The NSA at February 28, 2018 08:02 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, it's a dark day at February 28, 2018 08:02 PM (0Ng0w)
Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 28, 2018 07:50 PM (GzDYP)
Uh, what?
Posted by: josephistan at February 28, 2018 07:57 PM (ANIFC)
I'll take a stab at this blind and in the dark... It involves Pedos and Magic The Gathering game?
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 08:02 PM (96C7R)
someone is forcing her to do stupid things, like releasing confidential material.
she is desperate and stupid.
no one is working with her. using her, sure. working with her no.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:02 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Traveling Man at February 28, 2018 08:02 PM (fIn37)
There is a special unit (in California) that does just that, and they are working from a list. They are out on the street every day, all day, meeting with people known to have guns that should not have guns.
There was an article a few days ago. If you need it, I will try and find it.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 28, 2018 08:02 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: Bill Kristol at February 28, 2018 08:03 PM (hUqh+)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at February 28, 2018 08:03 PM (0OmEj)
Ha! On Monday I hot browned one of them and it looked good, but plum brown. So today I went back over it with BC Super Blue and Oxpho T4 in alternating coats. Now I'm oiling and rubbing it and it's looking okay but, I understand that Oxpho regular leaves a harder finish, and I was hoping for feedback from someone who has used it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 08:03 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: #nanklescevers at February 28, 2018 08:03 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February
you mean his rate card over the glory hole?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:03 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:03 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Hillary! 2016, Who Will Never Be President of the United States at February 28, 2018 08:04 PM (Mouru)
Remember how we laughed and laughed? Oh we laughed bigly!
Guess who else noticed how weak and ineffective Manchin looked during that event?
Hint: It was the guy right in front of him at the podium.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 28, 2018 08:04 PM (4ErVI)
Trump is eliminating all the juice!
Posted by: Oranges Everywhere at February 28, 2018 08:04 PM (9fLwh)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:03 PM (6nRrz)
Then have you read Rommel's book?
Posted by: Gen. George S. Patton at February 28, 2018 08:04 PM (Mouru)
The argument should be about the failures of law enforcement and what can be done to make them do their job.
All the crap LE is tossing on him one would think he'd joyfully take the bit between his teeth and run with it.
God save us.
Posted by: gNewt at February 28, 2018 08:04 PM (3UF8d)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at February
yep.
the man has announced he is running for reelection. he is making a video record of how reasonable and cooperative he is. everything the middle and left want would be achieved were they only reasonable enough to work with him.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:04 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Max Power at February 28, 2018 08:05 PM (q177U)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 28, 2018 08:05 PM (e11dj)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 28, 2018 08:05 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 08:05 PM (fA1SL)
I'm not a big fan of people losing their rights on heresy, but it seems like the system is already in place.
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 08:05 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: josephistan at February 28, 2018 07:57 PM (ANIFC)
Players getting banned from Magic The Gathering tourneys supposedly because of sjw smears. Some claim to be trying to out pedos, then getting targeted. I don't really know what to think of it yet.
Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 28, 2018 08:02 PM (GzDYP)
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Yes, this is true. It's like SWATTING but SJW style so instead is passive agressive false accusation stuff.
It's gamergate all over again. The alternative lifestyle freakazoids know that they have a better chance of bulliing MTG players than say powerlifters.
But they are coming for everyone eventually. They're like the Bolsheviks.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:05 PM (ywzxX)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 28, 2018 08:05 PM (SiINZ)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at February 28, 2018 08:03 PM (0OmEj)
That's my take. I'm thinking of all the good ads that could made in time for the mid terms. Get the dems to write the bill, sign their name to it, and get it on film.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 28, 2018 08:06 PM (aMlLZ)
Posted by: rickl at February 28, 2018 08:06 PM (sdi6R)
You should have been around earlier today. We had hours of hyperventilating over a tweet.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2018 08:06 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:03 PM (6nRrz)
Then have you read Rommel's book?
Posted by: Gen. George S. Patton at February 28, 2018 08:04 PM (Mouru)
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OK I get it. He's playing 22D chess.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:06 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Weasel at February
well, not being a wife beater myself I am not entirely sure but from what I have read you should make sure not to leave any marks.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:06 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 08:07 PM (yQpMk)
You heard it here first folks.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2018 08:07 PM (JJNkd)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 08:07 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: jsg at February 28, 2018 08:07 PM (EcEWt)
Posted by: rickl at February 28, 2018 08:06 PM (sdi6R)
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No offense taken.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:08 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:06 PM (MTjB1)
PRO TIP: Beat a woman whose skin won't show the marks.
Posted by: Ike Turner at February 28, 2018 08:08 PM (Mouru)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 08:08 PM (fA1SL)
I'm not a big fan of people losing their rights on heresy, but it seems like the system is already in place.
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 08:05 PM (Sfs6o)
Happened near my AO not too long ago. Two deputies rolled up in a guy's driveway to take his guns due to a domestic whatever junction conjunction and the guy shot both dead then blew his brains out.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 28, 2018 08:08 PM (EoRCO)
See you non-qunts on the ONT.
There's something fun linked in my sock if the concern becomes too much for you.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 28, 2018 07:51 PM
We need more guys like Sabo
Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2018 08:08 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:08 PM (MTjB1)
Because, you know, Trump can see and sense weakness. Manchin shouldn't have been there.
I have a feeling Trump will leave in seven years and they still won't know how to deal with him.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 28, 2018 08:08 PM (4ErVI)
I don't think this approach is necessarily a bad thing, if the later hearing is legit. But does anyone trust that it would be? Does anyone trust that the courts coule easily find a way to side with the government just about ALL THE TIME.
That being said, we do have to have a way to keep guns out of the hands of people whose state of mind is dangerous.
I just wish I trusted the system better. This is kind of where faith and credibility in institutions and the rule of law is important. And we just don't have a lot of that right now.
Posted by: Tommy V at February 28, 2018 08:08 PM (2waO2)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2018 08:09 PM (JJNkd)
This coming Saturday is range day. I am hoping to make some people jump when I fire them.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 08:09 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Weasel at February
well, not being a wife beater myself I am not entirely sure but from what I have read you should make sure not to leave any marks.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:06 PM (MTjB1)
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It's a pretty self explanatory how-to.
You beat. On the wife. Repeat as needed until you get caught.
Congrats, now you are a wife beater.
Or you can just buy the shirt. No need for a felony. Some gas stations even sell em
Posted by: Wife Beater Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:09 PM (ywzxX)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 28, 2018 08:09 PM (h1jJh)
And everyone just shrugs and walks away.
Just imagine if President Barry had said it or President Yeb had said it. Remember, Trump won't always be around, but this proposed law will be.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:09 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 08:09 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: jim at February 28, 2018 08:10 PM (AU8g4)
Posted by: Lily(former Bronco Superfan) now of AoSHQ assassin in the night and not a Russian Bot at February 28, 2018 08:11 PM (vfC/C)
Oh her suggestion is a ban on all automatics.
Posted by: #neverskankles
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Manchin and Feinstein writing a gun-control bill? LOLOL
Feinstein was recently repudiated by the CA Dem Party, who refused to endorse her for the 2018 CA US Senate race. The consensus was that she's too old and TOO CENTRIST for California voters. She'd have to do something ... something ... radical to get the Dems onboard. And Manchin signing on to anything that even sounds like gun-control will end his political career in WV. Trump knew what he was doing.
Posted by: mrp at February 28, 2018 08:11 PM (Pqytn)
HOLY GOD - THE END IS NEARER THANYOU THINK LOOK IN YOUR REARVIEW MIRROR MY GOD ITS HILLARY AND SHE IS WEARING A TRUMP MASK SIGNED BY IVANKA!!!!!11!!!
EEEEEEEE VONNNNN KAAAAAAAAAA!!!!11!!!
Posted by: #canklenevers at February 28, 2018 08:11 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 08:12 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2018 08:12 PM (JJNkd)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:12 PM (6nRrz)
Not being a wife beater myself, how does the process work
Posted by: Weasel at February
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Avoid wives and stick to cub scouts, Far fewer issues.
Posted by: Senator Harry "Right Hook" Reid at February 28, 2018 08:12 PM (0Ng0w)
Whatever it takes, you know this will happen.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 28, 2018 08:12 PM (4ErVI)
2. Autists on the right start screaming "Sellout".
3. Dem politicians step on their dicks to please their psychopathic base.
4. Trump wins.
5. Repeat.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 08:12 PM (HScFq)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 28, 2018 08:08 PM (EoRCO)
Seems that in this case the confiscation was warranted.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 28, 2018 08:12 PM (hUqh+)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 28, 2018 08:09 PM (h1jJh)
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Like in his DACA cave where he sold us out?
Oh wait, he instead made the Dems look stupid, again.
Praise the God Emperor
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:13 PM (ywzxX)
And everyone just shrugs and walks away.
Just imagine if President Barry had said it or President Yeb had said it. Remember, Trump won't always be around, but this proposed law will be.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:09 PM (6nRrz)
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What part of watching what he does, as opposed to what he says, are you having such difficulty understanding?
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 08:13 PM (hP7r7)
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 08:13 PM (96C7R)
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February
lots of people have apparently never been involved in hardball negotiations.
simply agreeing to something at the outset does not mean you will sign on to it in a contract.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:15 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Grump928(C)
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How did they turn out?
Posted by: gNewt at February 28, 2018 08:15 PM (3UF8d)
When he suggested getting Feinstein's input, I stood up and saluted his genius.
Yous people need to calm the fuck down and start paying attention to how this man operates.
Posted by: Papal Prunes and Prisms at February 28, 2018 08:15 PM (m3ADu)
Posted by: Quint at February 28, 2018 08:15 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: mrp at February 28, 2018 08:11 PM (Pqytn)
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Uhm you do realize that Manchin wrote the universal background check bill in 2013 right?
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:15 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 08:17 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 08:17 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February
difference between preventing people from getting guns and taking guns away from people.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:17 PM (MTjB1)
Oh wait, he instead made the Dems look stupid, again.
Praise the God Emperor
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:13 PM (ywzxX)
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Wait. When exactly did he sign that into law?
Oy, yeah. Never.
He is showing the public how the Dems really are, minus masks.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 08:18 PM (hP7r7)
Better, I think, but you know it takes a couple of days to reach maximum darkness with the cold bluing so we shall see.
I really liked the hot Plum Brown as a first coat though. It put an even finish everywhere so that the parts that had been rubbed smooth were mostly invisible.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 08:18 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- -
It's in lots of books about sales. Just agree with whoever you're trying to sell. Doesn't matter what it is, you could agree that what you're selling is way too expensive.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 08:18 PM (HScFq)
Posted by: qixlqatl at February 28, 2018 08:18 PM (oKgIR)
But as you please. Maybe self deport now, before the rush when Trump betrays us.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 08:19 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:15 PM (6nRrz)
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He's in trouble already. A Feinstein-influenced bill would be the cherry on top.
Posted by: mrp at February 28, 2018 08:19 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February
difference between preventing people from getting guns and taking guns away from people.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:17 PM (MTjB1)
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So universal background checks is no longer considered gun control? Interesting.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:19 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Brussel Sprout, the Assault-Style Cabbage at February 28, 2018 08:19 PM (NS36Y)
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/12/20/delingpole-magicgate- the-ugly-story-of-how-social-justice-warriors-ruined -an-innocent-collectible-card-game/
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 08:19 PM (96C7R)
Oh wait, he instead made the Dems look stupid, again.
Praise the God Emperor
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:13 PM (ywzxX)
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Sorry about 219. I misread your comment.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 08:19 PM (hP7r7)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 08:19 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February
no one said that. both are bad one is worse.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:20 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:20 PM (6nRrz)
And hope the left doesn't even try.
Posted by: dartist at February 28, 2018 08:21 PM (nisXv)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 08:21 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 08:21 PM (96C7R)
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 28, 2018 08:22 PM (GzDYP)
who presents credible evidence of causing imminent harm. Ya know,
"probable cause"...
Posted by: qixlqatl at February 28, 2018 08:18 PM (oKgIR)
You better have a court and judge similar to FISA, or actually much more stringent and fair, and then, you may have something. And even then, you better have a strict limitation, such as 48hrs. or something, then review.
Look, here is the real deal, will any of this stop killers from killing? Or is this just kabuki theater to please the masses? If not, then try again.
Posted by: Quint at February 28, 2018 08:22 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February
no one said that. both are bad one is worse.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:20 PM (MTjB1)
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mrp said this:
"And Manchin signing on to anything that even sounds like gun-control will end his political career in WV. Trump knew what he was doing. "
I replied that in 2013 he authored the universal background check bill (which as we all know didn't pass). So the idea that Manchin would never in a billion years sign on to gun control is a myth. He's very much in favor of gun control.
So either that bill wasn't gun control or Manchin is fine with gun control. Has to be one or the other.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:23 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 08:23 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: Quint at February 28, 2018 08:24 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 08:24 PM (96C7R)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:20 PM (6nRrz)
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Sure, one that funds a border wall, ends chain migration and the visa lottery system. That is his trade off, and he has not budged in his negotiating on these points.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 08:24 PM (hP7r7)
Someone should alert the villagers.
Posted by: skip intro at February
is concern flammable?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 28, 2018 08:24 PM (MTjB1)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at February 28, 2018 08:25 PM (N5dam)
Someone should alert the villagers.
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 08:23 PM (x25VP)
President Trump and our political leaders should know we are concerned, we are not patsies.
Posted by: Quint at February 28, 2018 08:25 PM (n13/j)
Politics - how do it work?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 28, 2018 08:25 PM (fA1SL)
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I love this place.
I didn't know that Manchin wrote that bill and I didn't know that it didn't pass.
I thought lobbyists wrote all the bills and Senators and Representatives just introduced them to Congress, and then staff had to read them to find out what was in them, after they passed.
I am so out of the loop on this inside stuff.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 28, 2018 08:26 PM (roQNm)
Whatever it takes, you know this will happen.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 28, 2018 08:12 PM (4ErVI)
Another flavor of SWATting, now, more improved with ex parte TROs and lawyer bills and everything!
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 28, 2018 08:26 PM (di1hb)
Posted by: Quint at February 28, 2018 08:26 PM (n13/j)
I am concerned the spillway may not be able to handle it.
Posted by: Oroville Dam, the Assault-Style Flood Enhancer at February 28, 2018 08:26 PM (NS36Y)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at February 28, 2018 08:25 PM (N5dam)
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I wish Trump could play this 271 dimensional chess. But come on.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:26 PM (6nRrz)
If that's ever wrong, I don't want to be right.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 28, 2018 08:27 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at February 28, 2018 08:27 PM (0OmEj)
Posted by: jsg at February 28, 2018 08:27 PM (EcEWt)
Posted by: PhilDirt at February 28, 2018 08:27 PM (fJ7Xp)
Has Trump ever let us down after saying something off the wall? He does this on purpose. God love him.
Posted by: RI Red - well-red at February 28, 2018 08:27 PM (l114u)
r you are carrying them without a permit.....or you are certain areas...r your girlfriend got pissed and called the cops on you.....or you've been drinking a couple pints of ale.....or unless some lawyer/part-time city judge that's f*cking your wife rules that you are cray-cray.....etc, etc...
Death of a thousand cuts....
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at February 28, 2018 08:27 PM (No410)
Posted by: Regular joe at February 28, 2018 08:27 PM (7PllL)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:28 PM (6nRrz)
But, I'll wait and see with Trump. The 1/2 dozen other times he was selling everyone out turned out the opposite in the end.
Posted by: Keith at February 28, 2018 08:28 PM (USf3s)
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 08:28 PM (96C7R)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 28, 2018 08:29 PM (RZWC0)
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 08:29 PM (96C7R)
"And Manchin signing on to anything that even sounds like
gun-control will end his political career in WV. Trump knew what he was
doing. "
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Manchin's 2013 background-check bill fiasco is part of his current term's resume. Manchin is NOW in real political trouble and the 2013 bill is part of his problem. Do you understand that much? Do you think after his 2013 gun debacle that he wants another chance at the brass ring? Donny Two Scoops wants a GOP senator in Manchin's seat after November.
Posted by: mrp at February 28, 2018 08:29 PM (Pqytn)
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What happened in IL today? Other than the usual mayhem in Chicago.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:30 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Pound Me Too
Just date a Broward Sheriff's Deputy, they never cum inside.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 08:30 PM (HScFq)
What makes it so great is that the press has used the madman/idiot meme so many times, it's was a sure thing they would go for that.
I'm sure Manchin gets the message.
Posted by: Johnny Eaglestallion at February 28, 2018 08:30 PM (JkygK)
Posted by: Eromero at February 28, 2018 08:31 PM (zLDYs)
Two, just because he essentially taunts the Democrats to put forward a bill means nothing because you know they will go up to and beyond confiscation.
I'm not going to panic until I see the actual bills being moved through Congress.
Posted by: WOPR (With Full Auto Nuclear Ability) at February 28, 2018 08:32 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: mrp at February 28, 2018 08:29 PM (Pqytn)
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Sigh.
Manchin already said he wants to revive his 2013 bill and bring it up for a vote in 2018. This was before Trump played his 17D chess today.
Manchin is a gun grabber. And Trump gave Manchin the thumbs up today. Why is this so hard for some of you to comprehend?
And if Manchin is truly in trouble as everyone here seem to think, then he has nothing to lose with this. Remember the most dangerous politician is a lame duck politician.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:33 PM (6nRrz)
Until they get called assault-style scoped sniper rifles.
Posted by: Limburger, the Assault-Style Cheese at February 28, 2018 08:33 PM (NS36Y)
Oh wait, he instead made the Dems look stupid, again.
Praise the God Emperor
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:13 PM (ywzxX)
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Sorry about 219. I misread your comment.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 08:19 PM (hP7r7)
________________
Its OK.
I should have used a sarc tag
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:33 PM (PTA8E)
Posted by: tu3031 at February 28, 2018 08:34 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 28, 2018 08:35 PM (IqV8l)
If I read correctly, he's also taken a much more gun-friendly stance on concealed carry, and we've heard him advocate for arming teachers.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 28, 2018 08:35 PM (LrbFI)
Posted by: Assault Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:35 PM (PTA8E)
Posted by: SEXUAL ASSAULT RIFLE at February 28, 2018 08:35 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:35 PM (6nRrz)
1) Do you see the Let in Hewlett ?
Yes
2) Do you see the Pack in Packard ?
Yes
3) Do you see the Fuck in Warranty ?
No
That's because there's No Fuck in Warranty.
Posted by: jsg at February 28, 2018 08:36 PM (EcEWt)
Posted by: Johnny Eaglestallion at February 28, 2018 08:37 PM (JkygK)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:33 PM (6nRrz)
So, not the guy running for Re-election in 2020?
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 28, 2018 08:38 PM (hUqh+)
Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2018 07:58 PM (EzdLW)
LOL
That's Great. I'm gonna steal that. And Spot On
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 08:39 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:35 PM
Your logic is flawed.
Manchin did what he did, and apparently Trump noticed and then suggested that Manchin get with Feinstein and go even further.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 28, 2018 08:39 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 28, 2018 08:35 PM (LrbFI)
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Really?
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When it was Rep. Scalise's time to speak, he highlighted the crime-fighting value of concealed carriers and the need to pass national reciprocity legislation. National reciprocity was introduced in the House on January 3, 2017, and passed in the House on December 6, 2017. It was introduced in the Senate on March 1, 2017, and it has yet to come up for a vote nor has Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said a word in support of it.
Trump shut down Scalise's reciprocity push, suggesting the gun control package being pieced together would never pass if national reciprocity were added to it.
Trump looked at Scalise and said, "You know I'm your biggest fan in the whole world. I think that maybe that bill will someday pass, but it should pass as a separate bill. You'll never get this passed. If you add concealed carry to this, you'll never get it passed. Let it be a separate bill."
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Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:39 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Daffy D. at February 28, 2018 08:39 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: Johnny Eaglestallion at February 28, 2018 08:40 PM (JkygK)
The mental health professionals won't allow a true fix to NICS
Too many Ds don't want Trump to look conciliatory, and lose a fund raising issue
So yes, this is like DACA
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 28, 2018 08:40 PM (l7kob)
Posted by: Assault Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:35 PM (PTA8E)
Well yeah. Who the fuck lets a 12 year old run around with an animal capable of running the power of New York City block?
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 08:41 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse
It's called "Agree and Escalate" and is a very effective tactic for getting SWJs to hasten their demise. Like demanding the NFL recruit tranny cheerleaders to drive off even more viewers.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 08:41 PM (HScFq)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 08:41 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 28, 2018 08:40 PM (l7kob)
Yes I believe so also. Or simply a bill that will tighten some background checks and/or mandate the enforcement of already existing laws. And BumpStocks LOL.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 08:41 PM (SjImc)
LOL. We're on 5th Ave.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:41 PM (6nRrz)
gun-friendly stance on concealed carry, and we've heard him advocate for
arming teachers.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 28, 2018 08:35 PM (LrbFI)
Just today Trump shot down Steve Scalise (of all people) on the idea of adding concealed carry reciprocity to the future Trump gun control bill. Google it. Use Trump and Scalise as key words.
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 08:42 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 08:41 PM (HScFq)
It's like giving the Left a bigger shovel to keep digging that deep hole
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 08:42 PM (SjImc)
I AM SMARTER THAN PRACTICALLY EVERYONE
DO YOU WANT HILLARY TO WIN????
Posted by: 2016 at February 28, 2018 08:42 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: tu3031 at February 28, 2018 08:34 PM (O5Q3r)
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Five dollars says they make ALL the bad guys of the politically correct race *cough* anglos or russians *cough* to avoid any SJW backlash
Another five says the bad guys gang is some ridiculous and implausible aryan nation BS.
Hope I'm wrong though.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:42 PM (PTA8E)
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 08:42 PM (Sfs6o)
I sure hope so.
Posted by: Johnny Eaglestallion at February 28, 2018 08:42 PM (JkygK)
Instead of people here looking at this as a way to positively approach this problem, immediately everyone jumps to some bizarre conclusion that nosy neighbors will call the cops and have your guns confiscated as you are coming home from the range. Even though you have done nothing violent, threatening , or have any history of mental illness.
There is about of mile of distance between a 18 year old who is online threatening to shoot his classmates and has a blog describing how IED's are made, and has had the cops called by his family members 40 times in the past 9 years and Mr. blog commenter with his 12 gauge under the bed that few know about.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 28, 2018 08:43 PM (m0lmR)
LOL. We're on 5th Ave.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:41 PM (6nRrz)
You've spent a year freaking out that "OMG TRUMP HAS SOLD US OUT! WE'RE DOOMED!"
Whatever #chickenlittle
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 08:44 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:30 PM (6nRrz)
5 or so bills cleared the house, with a gallery full of bloomberg moms cheering them on. basically:
Raise the semi auto age (including ruger 10/22s) to 21. Any owners 18-20 have to get rid of them.
Gun dealer state licensing that should hurt if not eliminate most table top to small storefront FFLs.
3 day waiting period on semi autos
Bump stock ban as class x felony
Still to be heard, and most onerous, is a magazine/body armor ban that will turn anyone with a magazine over 10 rounds into a felon. This will likely come up tomorrow or Thursday and is the real bad one. The others passed by at least 10 votes. I can live with the others but this one must be killed.
My R state rep voted for all of the passed ones so far. The senate is even less gun favorable, and Rauner caved on both govt. funded abortions and sanctuary state so my veto hopes are up in the air. I called the rep and submitted withness silps on the bills but a lot of gun owners in the state are asleep or too frickin complacent. We can and have won these in the past but the response has been too little and too late this time.
Posted by: Keith at February 28, 2018 08:44 PM (USf3s)
Trump shut down Scalise's reciprocity push, suggesting the gun control package being pieced together would never pass if national reciprocity were added to it.
Trump looked at Scalise and said, "You know I'm your biggest fan in the whole world. I think that maybe that bill will someday pass, but it should pass as a separate bill. You'll never get this passed. If you add concealed carry to this, you'll never get it passed. Let it be a separate bill."
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Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:39 PM (6nRrz)
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So PDT wanted a clean bill, rather than one larded up with other Dem giveaways? Please tell us what else was in that particular bill, for context.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 08:44 PM (hP7r7)
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 08:42 PM (n13/j)
Because PDT wants to pass a cosmetic bill that does basically nothing but makes him look good going into 2018. And reciprocal concealed carry will never pass. It's called tactics.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 08:44 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 08:44 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Assault Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:35 PM (PTA8E)
Well yeah. Who the fuck lets a 12 year old run around with an animal capable of running the power of New York City block?
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 08:41 PM (lKs2v)
___________
You think he's bad? Wait till you see what I can do!
Posted by: Assault Raichu at February 28, 2018 08:44 PM (PTA8E)
Plenty of people with their blood up - arguing - and I just can't muster the Give A Fuck enough to jump in guns blazing (SWIDT ?)
Maybe Trump showed his ass today. Wouldn't be the first time. Wouldn't be the first time he walked that shit back either.
End of the day ... for me ... it just doesn't matter. Ballot Box - Court House - Don't Care.
Anybody want to argue about that how Jimmy Stewart's character in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance ? Because I can argue that shit all day.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 08:45 PM (fiGNd)
*fistbump*
Once is concern, twice is fretting, three times is trolling.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 08:44 PM (yQpMk)
What's yearlong?
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 08:45 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 08:46 PM (9tO1t)
Taxes
Paris Accord
TPP
Immigration
Some people need to get a grip.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 28, 2018 08:46 PM (gC2IV)
That's not just our motto, it's our PROMISE Program School Discipline policy; we stand idly by while evil triumphs--For The Children(tm)!
Posted by: Broward County School Board at February 28, 2018 08:46 PM (Ndje9)
adding concealed carry reciprocity to the future Trump gun control bill.
Google it. Use Trump and Scalise as key words.
I just did, and it's a nothingburger. Trump is correct that it would never get passed as part of a broader bill, and may actually hurt Republicans by looking like a poisoned pill.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 28, 2018 08:46 PM (LrbFI)
Announce your firewall; that is to declare what you absolutely cannot abide by.
"I can't accept $4.50 a unit, sir!"
"There's no way I go back to my boss with 20k units!"
The opposition will force you up against that wall and hose you down.
Donny Two-Scoops has been that opposition for the better part of 35 years. Why do you think a lot of people in the NYC hate him? He knows how to fuck with all negotiations.
He has told everyone that he has no firewall and isn't vulnerable to scare tactics repeatedly, and yet no one learns.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 28, 2018 08:47 PM (KXVP7)
Posted by: Assault Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:35 PM (PTA8E)
Well yeah. Who the fuck lets a 12 year old run around with an animal capable of running the power of New York City block?
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 08:41 PM (lKs2v)
___________
You think he's bad? Wait till you see what I can do!
Posted by: Assault Raichu at February 28, 2018 08:44 PM (PTA8E)
Clearly we need thunderstone control to prevent this from happening.
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 08:47 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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To think that this asshole has influence over anyone is beyond appalling.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 08:47 PM (9tO1t)
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 08:47 PM (96C7R)
...
No, because we completely focused on Trump saying "gun" next to Joe Manchin. And shit.
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 08:47 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: ScoggDog
He's not the hero we want, he's the hero we need.
Mary Ann
Longbows
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 08:47 PM (HScFq)
Posted by: gNewt at February 28, 2018 08:47 PM (u5NuV)
WA I-1491, extreme risk protection orders, c/o Every town.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=7.94
It''s what gun grabbers want. More due process is desired and required, along with stronger protections and penalties for abuse.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 28, 2018 08:48 PM (Dp6qK)
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"Read my lips; no new taxes."
---- George H. W. Bush
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 28, 2018 08:48 PM (roQNm)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 28, 2018 08:29 PM (RZWC0)
Well, if you are gonna do ninjas and write a script, may I suggest a Stanley screwdriver? Or Craftsman, since they are circling the drain. Screwdriver to the eye socket.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 28, 2018 08:48 PM (di1hb)
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 08:44 PM (hP7r7)
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Or you know, he could have said he supports the idea and reciprocity in exchange for better background checks is a good idea.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:48 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 08:48 PM (9tO1t)
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 08:49 PM (x25VP)
Billionaire Kraft, who has four adult sons, and Lander, 38, have been dating for about five years. There were rumors they had broken up, but were told dancer, model and actress Lander was in fact pregnant and wanted to stay out of the public eye. She gave birth to the child last year
WINNER
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 08:49 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 08:46 PM (9tO1t)
This I'll have to watch later. Total totalitarian move. I'm not surprised.
I'm delighted that TuCa is redpilling the masses on how your children aren't really your children issue. It's a long time coming.
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 08:49 PM (96C7R)
adding concealed carry reciprocity to the future Trump gun control bill.
Google it. Use Trump and Scalise as key words.
I just
did, and it's a nothingburger. Trump is correct that it would never get
passed as part of a broader bill, and may actually hurt Republicans by
looking like a poisoned pill.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 28, 2018 08:46 PM (LrbFI)
Not seeing how liberty is a poison. But also, sometimes a poisoned pill is needed. Do you really think more gun control will help here? We have what, 27,000 gun laws? Are we talking about saving lives here or just saving political seats? Last time I checked, killing people was illegal.
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 08:50 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Assault Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:35 PM (PTA8E)
Well yeah. Who the fuck lets a 12 year old run around with an animal capable of running the power of New York City block?
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 08:41 PM (lKs2v)
___________
You think he's bad? Wait till you see what I can do!
Posted by: Assault Raichu at February 28, 2018 08:44 PM (PTA8E)
Clearly we need thunderstone control to prevent this from happening.
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 08:47 PM (lKs2v)
________
That won't work. Believe us.
Posted by: Zapdos & Raikou at February 28, 2018 08:50 PM (PTA8E)
To think that this asshole has influence over anyone is beyond appalling.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 08:47 PM (9tO1t)
HIs bace needs punched and he needs to eat a bag of dicks.
Posted by: Infidel at February 28, 2018 08:50 PM (a3OL0)
Posted by: Infidel at February 28, 2018 08:50 PM (a3OL0)
https://youtu.be/0njE_ygOaJk?t=32m18s
Posted by: spypeach at February 28, 2018 08:51 PM (yxczH)
Oops did I say that out loud?
Posted by: skip intro
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All of the physiognomy was there. My Perv Meter damn near pegged.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 08:51 PM (FJXGr)
...
My lifelong goal is to have a news story written about me that includes my much younger girlfriend, "Ricki".
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 08:51 PM (x25VP)
No, but it sounds scary. Who is that asshat? Does he have kids of his own or is he into something more nefarious?
Posted by: auscolpyr at February 28, 2018 08:52 PM (pzA2L)
Did I mention I work at a church?
Posted by: Country Boy
Could be worse. I had to sit through 2 hours of sexual harassment cultural marxist brainwashing today.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 08:52 PM (HScFq)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:48 PM (6nRrz)
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Once again, typing slowly here, what else was in that particular bill? It's as if you don't politics much.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 08:52 PM (hP7r7)
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 28, 2018 08:35 PM (LrbFI)
Trump has had a conceal carry permit, from NYC of all places, for years. He is a life member of the NRA. Don Jr. and Eric are both avid gun collectors besides active hunters.
Trump told us at the NRA convention in 2016 when he was campaigning that he wouldn't hesitate to shoot anyone "coming at him". He then said that the SS had told him he could not carry anymore for obvious reasons, LOL.
Someone upthread or last thread said Trump doesn't know much about guns. He's not a gunsmith, but he's not ignorant of them either.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 28, 2018 08:52 PM (m0lmR)
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 08:53 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:48 PM (6nRrz)
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Once again, typing slowly here, what else was in that particular bill? It's as if you don't politics much.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 08:52 PM (hP7r7)
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Improving the NCIS system.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:53 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: concrete girl at February 28, 2018 08:53 PM (SJBL7)
Posted by: auscolpyr at February 28, 2018 08:54 PM (pzA2L)
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 08:54 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 08:46 PM (9tO1t)
No, but it sounds scary. Who is that asshat? Does he have kids of his own or is he into something more nefarious?
Posted by: auscolpyr
Waiting for zombie to chime in and say it's been happening in Frisco for 50 years.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 28, 2018 08:54 PM (IqV8l)
HR38 - 115th Congress
A good bill that Trump should have endorsed.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:55 PM (6nRrz)
It's called "Agree and Escalate" and is a very effective tactic for getting SWJs to hasten their demise. Like demanding the NFL recruit tranny cheerleaders to drive off even more viewers.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 08:41 PM (HScFq)
It's almost as if Trump is playing those people like a fiddle.
Posted by: rickl at February 28, 2018 08:55 PM (sdi6R)
... it's asshole politicians talking. I just can't do it. But I can see why you're so upset. Just listening to those fuckers talk sucks the life out of ya'.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 08:55 PM (fiGNd)
...
My lifelong goal is to have a news story written about me that includes my much younger girlfriend, "Ricki".
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 08:51 PM (x25VP)
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On the younger GF thing;
As a 34 y/o who has been in a relationship with a 23 y/o since she was 21, like anything else in life after the novelty wears off, you get used to it.
i swear our brains are hardwired so that we can't enjoy anything for too long.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at February 28, 2018 08:56 PM (PTA8E)
Posted by: quint
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I look forward to Trump playing you and your fellow Nevertrumpers and your disappearance from this blog forever.
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 08:56 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 08:51 PM (x25VP)
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Yep.
"Sorry about the inheritance kids. Daddy bought himself a little going away present!".
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 08:56 PM (hP7r7)
Oops did I say that out loud?
Posted by: skip intro
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Confirmation, from his tweets:
http://tinyurl.com/y89k5vb3
http://tinyurl.com/y948ozf9
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 08:56 PM (FJXGr)
Posted by: Jimi Hendrix at February 28, 2018 08:57 PM (KXVP7)
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 08:50 PM (n13/j)
Hello, a broader bill is NOT going to be passed. That's Trump's point. Why let reciprocity, which he supports, be killed along with whatever crap the Dems come up with?
Remember, gun control bills have to pass both chambers of Congress. Imagine getting some bill full of ban this, ban that, raise the age (which would never stand a legal challenge) etc. through both houses. Not going to happen.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 28, 2018 08:57 PM (m0lmR)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 08:58 PM (fiGNd)
Wait a second. So he is the greatest negotiator in the world, but he is giving up without even putting up a fight? What happened to asking for the world at the beginning of a negotiation?
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:59 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 08:59 PM (n13/j)
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Trying to do the take aways here. 34 take away 21 is 13.
23 take away 13 is 10
So the affair started with the young person was ten?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 28, 2018 08:59 PM (roQNm)
Oops did I say that out loud?
Posted by: skip intro
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Confirmation, from his tweets:
http://tinyurl.com/y89k5vb3
http://tinyurl.com/y948ozf9
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at
Good Lord.
Posted by: Infidel at February 28, 2018 08:59 PM (a3OL0)
The mentally ill guy gave law enforcement at least two or three times to take his guns away. They didn't.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 28, 2018 09:00 PM (ks6bw)
23 take away 13 is 10
So the affair started with the young person was ten?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse
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This is why we don't do maths here.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:00 PM (FJXGr)
Woo.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 08:58 PM (fiGNd)
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LoG - you guys have a newsletter?
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 09:00 PM (Sfs6o)
23 take away 13 is 10
So the affair started with the young person was ten?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse
That's some might fine cypherin'. Did you learn you goesintahs from Mr. Bodine?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 09:01 PM (HScFq)
The mentally ill guy gave law enforcement at least two or three times to take his guns away. They didn't.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 28, 2018 09:00 PM (ks6bw)
Great point!.......LE not doing their jobs is a big problem.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 28, 2018 09:01 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Country Boy at February 28, 2018 09:00 PM (/H4iN)
CB ... we're gonna' have to work on this. The Legion of Gloom doesn't fight One on One.
Do you know nothing of Classic Horseman Tactics ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 09:02 PM (fiGNd)
At least I'm hoping that's what this is.
Posted by: Iblis at February 28, 2018 09:02 PM (O7PCq)
Posted by: auscolpyr at February 28, 2018 09:02 PM (pzA2L)
I'm thinking about sending him my MAGA hat (that I never wore) back with the note:
Here you can have this back, I'm sure you can find another fool to buy it.
Good luck with that impeachment hearing in 2019 cause I won't be voting for any GOP this year.
Signed: XXXXXX
He can't walk this one back and no one can claim he's psyching the Dems or that he's playing 3d chess or something.
He's buried the School safety provisions and ignored concealed carry. If this does reach a reconciliation conference they'll probably have a "comprehensive" back ground check provision which means a national registry which is a total no go for most gun owners.
And if this thing doesn't get passed he's still betrayed us and can't be trusted.
All you folks thought he would surrender before he was elected. Apparently you were off by 2 years.
He's surrendered NOW. He started with DACA in January.
I think he was waiting for the investigation to get to the point where he was safe and now he can be him self.
Good luck Don. You'll need it.
Posted by: jakee308 at February 28, 2018 09:02 PM (yQxbm)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:00 PM
I always hated story problems in school.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 28, 2018 09:02 PM (roQNm)
"I think reciprocity is a great idea and should definitely be part of any gun bill we come up with."
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:02 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: The Nature Boy at February 28, 2018 09:03 PM (89T5c)
I wouldn't pretend to know how the courts actually work or should work. What you say sounds quite reasonable to me. I may have missed some context, but I was thinking in terms of a guy like the recent shooter, with red flags all over the place. Was there not enough evidence there for a 'competency' (probably not the right word, here) hearing? Cuz to me he seems like a glaringly obvious nutter, so if that isn't enough to have folks saying "maybe this guy doesn't need to be packin", then there really isn't anything to do BUT strap iron and pray. Which might be excellent policy in general, but dead bodies are a sub-optimal outcome.
Posted by: qixlqatl at February 28, 2018 09:03 PM (oKgIR)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 09:03 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 09:00 PM (Sfs6o)
We don't have time for newsletters. Woo. Because too many times, on too many Smart Military Blogs, the Ladies are beggin' to ride Gloom Mountain. Woo. And when you ask to ride Gloom Mountain ... it's an All Night Job.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 09:03 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Infidel
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Anyone who missed the early TuCar should watch the late version, just to hear what this guy has to say. It's pretty frightening stuff. Reeks of NAMBLA/GLAD, "Your children are ours."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:03 PM (w1zJX)
Dig deep , boys. Your pillow fortress in Mom's basement won't bury itself.
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 09:04 PM (x25VP)
The mentally ill guy gave law enforcement at least two or three times to take his guns away. They didn't.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 28, 2018 09:00 PM (ks6bw)
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Great point!.......LE not doing their jobs is a big problem.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 28, 2018 09:01 PM (EoRCO)
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Trump's working uphill. This argument should be about LE not doing their jobs not new gun law.
Posted by: gNewt at February 28, 2018 09:04 PM (u5NuV)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 28, 2018 09:05 PM (gC2IV)
Posted by: Infidel
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Anyone who missed the early TuCar should watch the late version, just to hear what this guy has to say. It's pretty frightening stuff. Reeks of NAMBLA/GLAD, "Your children are ours."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:03 PM (w1zJX)
Sounds like the NEA as well.
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:05 PM (96C7R)
Posted by: Country Boy at February 28, 2018 09:03 PM (/H4iN)
Oh man ... I had you pencilled in as Tully Blanchard.
Please don't tell me you're Paul Roma.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 09:06 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 08:59 PM (6nRrz)
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You are very tiresome, because you cherry pick talking points that support your Never Trump agenda, and you only ever tell half a story.
I truly hope that you are as fearful of Trump's words, rather than his actions, that you post here. I hope it messes with your every day mood, and life in general.
Because, if not, you are just another run of the mill, boring troll. Have a night. I'm done.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 09:06 PM (hP7r7)
Posted by: Eromero at February 28, 2018 09:06 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 09:06 PM (HScFq)
Posted by: jsg at February 28, 2018 09:06 PM (UJLKW)
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 09:06 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 09:00 PM (Sfs6o)
We don't have time for newsletters. Woo. Because too many times, on too many Smart Military Blogs, the Ladies are beggin' to ride Gloom Mountain. Woo. And when you ask to ride Gloom Mountain ... it's an All Night Job.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 09:03 PM (fiGNd)
DP Anal?
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:07 PM (96C7R)
Posted by: Pound Me Too
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Birds of a feather, increasingly.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:07 PM (w1zJX)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 28, 2018 09:07 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 28, 2018 09:08 PM (FTXAT)
Oh right. Criticizing a prezzy who says "due process who needs it" and is super excited about Diane Feinstein's ideas on gun control is concern trolling. My bad.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:08 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 28, 2018 09:05 PM (gC2IV)
Yes, and that concerns me greatly.
Posted by: rickl at February 28, 2018 09:08 PM (sdi6R)
....
Seriously.
It's like a Vagisil sample counter in here.
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 09:09 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 09:09 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 09:10 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 28, 2018 09:10 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: gNewt at February 28, 2018 09:10 PM (u5NuV)
Oh right. Criticizing a prezzy who says "due
process who needs it" and is super excited about Diane Feinstein's ideas
on gun control is concern trolling. My bad.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:08 PM (6nRrz)
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Yawn. I wonder how Joe Manchin feels about having "Joe Manchin and Dianne Feinstein's gun-control message" tied around his neck until November.
Posted by: mrp at February 28, 2018 09:11 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: Mom at February 28, 2018 09:11 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: Weasel
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What about our precious National Concern Reserve?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:11 PM (QxXRY)
Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! at February 28, 2018 09:11 PM (IYHxL)
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 09:11 PM (Sfs6o)
"I think reciprocity is a great idea and should definitely be part of any gun bill we come up with."
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:02 PM (6nRrz)
Which only shows you have never had to work in the legislative arena. Trump is on record supporting reciprocity.
This was a meeting. It wasn't a bill writing session. Those are going on behind closed doors and in bars all over Washington right now. Schumer, who couldn't hardly be bothered to stop at Graham's coffin today as he was grinning and almost back slapping Franklin Graham today after which he rushed by the coffin., already is pulling all the gun bills out of the same drawer they pulled Obamacare out of.
The same worn out crap.
The only thing today did was wake up the base that they might want to pay attention to their local elections this summer and fall, and start supporting conservative candidates for this fall. If the Senate or House goes to the Dems, you can look for an avalanche of these types of bills.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 28, 2018 09:11 PM (m0lmR)
Posted by: rickl at February 28, 2018 09:12 PM (sdi6R)
better have a court and judge similar to FISA, or actually much more
stringent and fair, and then, you may have something. And even then, you
better have a strict limitation, such as 48hrs. or something, then
review.
I wouldn't pretend to know how the courts actually work or should
work. What you say sounds quite reasonable to me. I may have missed some
context, but I was thinking in terms of a guy like the recent shooter,
with red flags all over the place. Was there not enough evidence there
for a 'competency' (probably not the right word, here) hearing? Cuz to
me he seems like a glaringly obvious nutter, so if that isn't enough to
have folks saying "maybe this guy doesn't need to be packin", then
there really isn't anything to do BUT strap iron and pray. Which might
be excellent policy in general, but dead bodies are a sub-optimal
outcome.
Posted by: qixlqatl at February 28, 2018 09:03 PM (oKgIR)
I agree Qix, there should be a mechanism to do that. Someone should have stepped in with this guy. Also, I don't know the courts either, just a laymen's opinion. Yes we want to stop the bad guy, and we also want to prevent abuses. In my experience, government tends to make new laws that later have severe repercussions.
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 09:12 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Weasel
It's those damned ROOOOSHANS. We cannot allow a concern gap.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 09:12 PM (HScFq)
Imma do that wait and see what actually happens thing.
For now I'm watching Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at February 28, 2018 09:12 PM (IMacf)
I can imagine his mom (pelosi) and dad (schumer) trying to calm him down on the phone and then telling him to stfu, grow a pair and take one for the team.
Posted by: auscolpyr at February 28, 2018 09:13 PM (pzA2L)
Posted by: gNewt
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Perhaps, but it will be needed when the Pet Thread comes around.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:13 PM (QxXRY)
Posted by: rickl at February 28, 2018 09:12 PM (sdi6R)
Well there's that.
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 09:13 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: Mom at February 28, 2018 09:13 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: mrp
**************
This is their last gasp act to be relevant.
Posted by: gNewt at February 28, 2018 09:13 PM (u5NuV)
WTF are you bringing to the table?
Have any one you girls defeated the left and right establishments, the MSM, the hildebeast spending $1 B, and obama using every apparatus of the most powerful nation in the world?
Howsabout a big cup of sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 28, 2018 09:13 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 09:11 PM (Sfs6o)
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Yes, and I'm concerned. Very very concerned. Extra concerned, you might say.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 28, 2018 09:13 PM (gC2IV)
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:07 PM (96C7R)
Let me tell you something Brother ... The Redneck Boy ... ScoggDog ... World's HeavyWeight Debbie Downer Champion ... don't need any help. 'Cause I'm the Pickup Drivin', Coach Flyin', Miller Drinkin', Secession Thinkin' Son-Of-A-Gun.
I got the Fifteen Dollar Wranglers. The Ten Dollar Dickies Shirts. The NRA Hats. Women want me, and Men want to be me. Woo.
I'm the Women's Pet and the Men's Regret. So when the ladies get off Gloom Mountain ... they say "Woo - ScoggDog - How do you do it ?". And I say "Baby, when you carry the Ten Pounds of Gold - you do it any way you want."
And that's the bottom line ... because ScoggDog said so. WOOOOOOOO.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 09:14 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:13 PM (QxXRY)
Now that is funny! I don't care who you are.
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 09:14 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: rickl at February 28, 2018 09:12 PM (sdi6R)
======================
As the great philosopher Scarlett O' Hara once said: "Tomorrow is another day."
Posted by: mrp at February 28, 2018 09:14 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 09:14 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: gNewt
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Perhaps, but it will be needed when the Pet Thread comes around.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Speaking of dead horses where is that girl?
Posted by: gNewt at February 28, 2018 09:14 PM (u5NuV)
Okay uncle Jed.
Now let me see. Naught gazzinta naught naught times with a remainder of naught.
Don't mind me. Just trying to lift my own spirits here.
A coyote trashed my radiator, front clip and who knows what else this morning.
Along with trashing a dream vacation where I was going to meet a gal whose smiling face reminds me of a summer day and who has a voice incredibly pleasing to the ear.
Did I mention even a Christian and constitutionalist?
Story. Of. My. Life.
Posted by: teej at February 28, 2018 09:14 PM (9razJ)
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Your concern has me troubled. And that's very concerning.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 09:15 PM (HScFq)
Posted by: rickl at February 28, 2018 09:12 PM (sdi6R)
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No way man. Trump would never sign a bad bill. Just because he's spent the last 2 weeks saying he wants gun control doesn't mean, you know, he wants gun control. It's his 172653 dimensional chess at work.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:15 PM (6nRrz)
Gun control/Second Amendment is about 17th on my list of political priorities. Yawn.
Yet another example of the Left setting the agenda, and everyone snapping to attention.
Fuck them, fuck their stupid agenda.
I'm tired of paying attention to things the Left demands I pay attention to. I don't give a shit about their narrative-seizing memes. They ignore my agenda; I therefore reserve the right to ignore theirs.
Posted by: zombie at February 28, 2018 09:15 PM (42M22)
Because, yup, I heard it as being an accurate description of the current state of the law in nearly every jurisdiction.
It's one of those things where I just assume everyone knows what ex parte is and what ex parte means and it turns out not so much.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe. Namaste. Prayer hands. Warrior stance. at February 28, 2018 09:15 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 09:10 PM (Sfs6o)
My new favorite gap is The bikini bridge gap.
http://www.craveonline.com/girls/1048702-15-sexy- and-controversial-bikini-bridge-photos#/slide/2
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:15 PM (96C7R)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 28, 2018 09:13 PM (gC2IV)
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Soon we may reach Peak Concern.
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 09:16 PM (Sfs6o)
If he absolutely has to throw a bone to the left, ban bumpstocks. They're really just toys anyway. I'd prefer zero new regulations, but I guess I could live with that.
That's as far as I'm willing to go.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 28, 2018 09:16 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: the chicken at February 28, 2018 09:16 PM (6FqZa)
Apropos of nothing, are any of you Morons familiar with Brownells Oxpho bluing? Like it? Dislike it?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 28, 2018 07:59 PM (yQpMk)
================
I actually bought a bottle of the gel solution for a Guardia Civil M1916 Mauser in 7.62. It has some pits and areas of corrosion on the barrel and I thought I'd try the stuff out (haven't gotten around to it yet, though). I picked it because it supposedly has a phospating effect on rusted areas, meaning it actually imparts some corrosion protection unlike most other cold bluing solutions. I've also heard that you can pretreat rusted areas with phosphoric acid for added protection. As far as finishes go: It's like any other finish - surface prep is all important.
Posted by: Jackal at February 28, 2018 09:16 PM (o3+fQ)
better have a court and judge similar to FISA, or actually much more
stringent and fair, and then, you may have something. And even then, you
better have a strict limitation, such as 48hrs. or something, then
review.
I wouldn't pretend to know how the courts actually work or should
work. What you say sounds quite reasonable to me. I may have missed some
context, but I was thinking in terms of a guy like the recent shooter,
with red flags all over the place. Was there not enough evidence there
for a 'competency' (probably not the right word, here) hearing? Cuz to
me he seems like a glaringly obvious nutter, so if that isn't enough to
have folks saying "maybe this guy doesn't need to be packin", then
there really isn't anything to do BUT strap iron and pray. Which might
be excellent policy in general, but dead bodies are a sub-optimal
outcome.
Posted by: qixlqatl at February 28, 2018 09:03 PM (oKgIR)
I
agree Qix, there should be a mechanism to do that. Someone should have
stepped in with this guy. Also, I don't know the courts either, just a
laymen's opinion. Yes we want to stop the bad guy, and we also want to
prevent abuses. In my experience, government tends to make new laws that
later have severe repercussions.
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 09:12 PM (n13/j)
And to be clear, no new laws were needed to stop this guy. The government/police failed in this case, they did not need a new law. That is something bureaucrats always do, they ask for a new law to cover up their past failings.
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 09:17 PM (n13/j)
Fuck them, fuck their stupid agenda.
I'm tired of paying attention to things the Left demands I pay
attention to. I don't give a shit about their narrative-seizing memes.
They ignore my agenda; I therefore reserve the right to ignore theirs.
....
I need a cigarette. No vape, an actual Marlboro Red.
( those are still legal right?)
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 09:17 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:17 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Your concern has me troubled. And that's very concerning.
If concern is not noted, does it make a sound?
Posted by: tu3031 at February 28, 2018 09:17 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:07 PM (96C7R)
Let me tell you something Brother ... The Redneck Boy ... ScoggDog ... World's HeavyWeight Debbie Downer Champion ... don't need any help. 'Cause I'm the Pickup Drivin', Coach Flyin', Miller Drinkin', Secession Thinkin' Son-Of-A-Gun.
I got the Fifteen Dollar Wranglers. The Ten Dollar Dickies Shirts. The NRA Hats. Women want me, and Men want to be me. Woo.
I'm the Women's Pet and the Men's Regret. So when the ladies get off Gloom Mountain ... they say "Woo - ScoggDog - How do you do it ?". And I say "Baby, when you carry the Ten Pounds of Gold - you do it any way you want."
And that's the bottom line ... because ScoggDog said so. WOOOOOOOO.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 09:14 PM (fiGNd)
That's an impressive shoot, brother. And the lulz.
10/10
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:18 PM (96C7R)
Posted by: auscolpyr at February 28, 2018 09:18 PM (pzA2L)
I thought you would be a little bit more concerned due to your justifiable campaign against civil forfeiture. I believe Trump misspoke but I would like him to clarify .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 09:18 PM (2DOZq)
Keep your laws off my AR-15!
Posted by: Rex B at February 28, 2018 09:19 PM (oq4hU)
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe. Namaste. Prayer hands. Warrior stance. at February 28, 2018 09:19 PM (dEQP3)
...
Do they take overdue property tax cases?
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 09:19 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - 1077 Americans killed by mass shootings since '66, 1.2 million Americans by AIDS at February 28, 2018 09:19 PM (ks6bw)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:20 PM (9tO1t)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 28, 2018 09:20 PM (KP5rU)
Trump also said in his book he wants to outlaw assault weapons. Also super awesome.
Now he says due process takes too long.
3 dimensional chess.
If he really wanted to win on this issue, he should just ignore it and let Democrats get slaughtered on the issue in 2018.
Posted by: Apache at February 28, 2018 09:20 PM (uc45P)
Woooo!
Posted by: Rick Fliehr at February 28, 2018 09:20 PM (EzdLW)
It's one of those things where I just assume everyone knows what ex parte is and what ex parte means and it turns out not so much.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe. Namaste. Prayer hands. Warrior stance. at February 28, 2018 09:15 PM (dEQP3)
OK, so what does that mean?
Nice to see you around in the evening.
Posted by: rickl at February 28, 2018 09:21 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:21 PM (96C7R)
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 09:21 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: alexthechick
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*edges towards the door*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:21 PM (9tO1t)
Don't mind me. Just practicing my concerned face.
*Raises eyebrow*
Oh wait, that's my perplexed face.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 28, 2018 09:21 PM (gC2IV)
Posted by: gNewt at February 28, 2018 09:22 PM (u5NuV)
Posted by: auscolpyr at February 28, 2018 09:18 PM (pzA2L)
Helen of Troy was the first of many.
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:22 PM (96C7R)
http://www.craveonline.com/girls/1048702-15-sexy- and-controversial-bikini-bridge-photos#/slide/2
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:15 PM (96C7R)
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I was doing pioneering research in this area as far back as the 70s.
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 09:22 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: mrp at February 28, 2018 09:23 PM (Pqytn)
If you had a monocle you could have it fall off into a cup of tea.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 09:23 PM (2DOZq)
I remember well, 2 weeks ago, when most here were saying this shooting would blow over in a few days. Same people now saying Trump is just playing 18D chess.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:24 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:24 PM (Zdm89)
If you had a monocle you could have it fall off into a cup of tea.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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Or...he might be a clown.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:25 PM (Zdm89)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:24 PM (6nRrz)
Midterms are about animating the base and turnout. Are you not animated?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 28, 2018 09:25 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 09:18 PM (2DOZq)
I will be if there's anything actually in writing saying take guns but never due process. Or due process months from now. But what Trump said is more or less how it works now.
Here's the deal (and as always this is very general and depends on jurisdiction): Right now, when a DV TRO (domestic violence temporary restraining order) is issued ex parte (issued by a judge without there being a hearing at which the defendant is present ie ex = without parte = party), when that order is issued the order will contain within it a direction to the police to take all the defendant's guns.
So when the defendant gets served, the cops take the guns.
Then, depending on jurisdiction, anywhere from 5-10 days later, there is a hearing at which the defendant is present to determine if the TRO will stay in place.
So, yeah, due process has already been somewhat trampled upon when the TRO is initially issued. I believe the proposed GVRO follows pretty much those steps.
So this isn't anything new. Whether it's wise is a separate question, but it's not new.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe. Namaste. Prayer hands. Warrior stance. at February 28, 2018 09:26 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:03 PM (w1zJX)
It takes a bath house to raise a child?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 28, 2018 09:26 PM (SiINZ)
Trouble is he just didn't know at the time that the lying purposely misleading liberal term "single payer" means "government healthcare" - because it *sounds* like it means that individuals will pay their own way.
Posted by: Mega at February 28, 2018 09:26 PM (rv0Fo)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:24 PM (6nRrz)
Midterms are about animating the base and turnout. Are you not animated?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 28, 2018 09:25 PM
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So the way Trump protects gun rights is by getting together with Dems to squelch gun rights, which will get gun owners to the polls.
BRILLIANT!!
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:27 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: The Dead Horse. at February 28, 2018 09:27 PM (Zdm89)
I think its bullshit, but I bet the public favors that 90 to 10.
I hate that this little high school shit ruined it for law abiding adults to own a fire arm, but that's what happens when you have law enforcement drop the ball.
Posted by: Apache at February 28, 2018 09:27 PM (uc45P)
http://www.craveonline.com/girls/1048702-15-sexy- and-controversial-bikini-bridge-photos#/slide/2
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:15 PM (96C7R)
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I was doing pioneering research in this area as far back as the 70s.
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 09:22 PM (Sfs6o)
Ah, the 70's. Peak eating disorders and drug usage
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:27 PM (96C7R)
Posted by: Karen C. and Janis J. at February 28, 2018 09:28 PM (pzA2L)
I agree it isn't new but I am concerned it will be expanded similar to how the use of civil forfeiture has expanded.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 09:28 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 09:28 PM (x25VP)
Posted by: Emmie at February 28, 2018 09:29 PM (/A+Cl)
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Thanks for the explanation.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:29 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe. Namaste. Prayer hands. Warrior stance. at February 28, 2018 09:26 PM (dEQP3)
What's new is it does not take DV or even a domestic relation. And it's already here in some states. See 321.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 28, 2018 09:29 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 09:29 PM (SjImc)
Rahm Emmanuel is really pushing all of the new gun grabbing. I'm sure Super RINO Rauner will cave like he has on everything else and then blame Madigan for his caving
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 28, 2018 09:29 PM (SiINZ)
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 09:28 PM (x25VP)
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Whew! We're off the radar, Comrades!
Posted by: Russian Bots, Inc. at February 28, 2018 09:29 PM (Pqytn)
Ever since he announced in 2015, you #NeverTrump twats have been rubbing yourselves raw over being able to do your little I-told-you-so dance at how Trump was really a covert Clinton plant that was duping us gullible rubes. And every time you think you've got the opportunity, he punches you in the dick. I think you're starting to like it.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 09:30 PM (HScFq)
BTW...Walmart has announced no more gun sales to anyone under 21.
Lol, Walmart. Under 21's will be receiving guns as birthday or Christmas presents from their parents, older siblings, older friends, etc.
Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2018 09:30 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 09:28 PM (2DOZq)
Oh yeah that's a completely fair concern.
Whomever it was who noted above that people will start lying about neighbors who own guns is a valid point. It's just that I'm not going to throw myself off a cliff at this point.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe. Namaste. Prayer hands. Warrior stance. at February 28, 2018 09:30 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 09:28 PM (x25VP)
Oh, they're real. I used to have one until I got a desk job.
Posted by: Emmie at February 28, 2018 09:30 PM (/A+Cl)
What if Walmart decides to sell soap to only people 35 and older, could they get away with that?
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:30 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 09:29 PM (SjImc)
Which is still indefensible on Trump's behalf.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 09:30 PM (2DOZq)
I hate that this little high school shit ruined it for law abiding adults to own a fire arm, but that's what happens when you have law enforcement drop the ball.
Posted by: Apache at February 28, 2018 09:27 PM (uc45P)
I'll just double-down on my already unpopular stances ...
... raise the voting age
... shit-can the draft
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 09:30 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: #chickenlittle at February 28, 2018 09:31 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: Apache
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NO ONE has asked these smug little shits why they are not demonstrating in front of the Sheriff's department, or the FBI offices. It seems an obvious question.
Posted by: The Dead Horse. at February 28, 2018 09:31 PM (cp1if)
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Is The Death Of Newsweek Near? Can't Pay Bills, Faces Eviction From Manhattan Offices
Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 28, 2018 09:31 PM (y3aQB)
And so, for now I am focused on buying guns and ammo. And getting new off-road tires for my truck.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at February 28, 2018 09:31 PM (IMacf)
Ever since he announced in 2015, you #NeverTrump twats have been rubbing yourselves raw over being able to do your little I-told-you-so dance at how Trump was really a covert Clinton plant that was duping us gullible rubes. And every time you think you've got the opportunity, he punches you in the dick. I think you're starting to like it.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 09:30 PM (HScFq)
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I'm a NeverTrumper? LOL. Try again.
You 5th Ave types are the very caricature of what NeverTrumpers view Trump supporters as.....cultists.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:31 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: gNewt at February 28, 2018 09:31 PM (u5NuV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 09:32 PM (SjImc)
...
Macedonian content farmers are spreading Fake Bikini Bridges!
Posted by: skip intro at February 28, 2018 09:28 PM (x25VP)
This taint be tainted by fakes.
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:32 PM (96C7R)
BRILLIANT!!
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:27 PM (6nRrz)
Don't be a douche. He's done nothing but talk. How'd that government shutdown, DACA, and tax cut conversation end up for the dems?
That's what I thought.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 28, 2018 09:32 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 28, 2018 09:32 PM (y3aQB)
If you did, the horde would be at the bottom to catch you .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 09:32 PM (2DOZq)
I mean, hey, we all have problems, and I don't want people who would really benefit from having a prescription or two to be afraid to seek out that help for fear of getting onto a "no guns" list.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Keyboard Cossack at February 28, 2018 09:32 PM (wSC8T)
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I am so there, and I think a lot of others are too. Two weeks ago it was RUSSIA MEMO and four weeks ago TRUMP SAID DOODY. I can't remember what it was before that because I don't give a fuck.
They could have meanwhile been doing guns as the NUMBER ONE CONCERN all that time - same with the FBI - if they really cared about the chidrins.
Posted by: Mega at February 28, 2018 09:32 PM (rv0Fo)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 09:30 PM (2DOZq)
???
What is?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 09:32 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:30 PM (6nRrz)
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Nope. Parents vote.
Posted by: Russian Bots, Inc. at February 28, 2018 09:32 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: gNewt at February 28, 2018 09:31 PM (u5NuV)
The schools have been grooming little kids to rat their parents out for years.
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:34 PM (96C7R)
That should trouble you at least somewhat. But hey 5th Ave....
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:34 PM (6nRrz)
exactly
he needs a booth
Posted by: concrete girl at February 28, 2018 09:34 PM (SJBL7)
Posted by: #neverskankles
Looks like a douche.
Talks like a douche.
It's a douche.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 09:34 PM (HScFq)
Posted by: #chickenlittle at February 28, 2018 09:34 PM (lKs2v)
If he absolutely has to throw a bone to the left, ban bumpstocks. They're really just toys anyway. I'd prefer zero new regulations, but I guess I could live with that.
That's as far as I'm willing to go.
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Ditto. I'd prefer no new regulations. But as a compromise, maybe classify "bump stocks" as an NFA item instead of full banishment.
Posted by: willy at February 28, 2018 09:34 PM (puf6g)
Insomniac is MIA, Country Boy isn't in character, and Alex bopped me on the head. Again.
The Redneck Boy ... ScoggDog ... can't carry this act alone. Crap ... and we still need the elusive Fourth Gloomer.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 09:35 PM (fiGNd)
What a twit. See a pic of him. So he doesn't have an issue with their qualifications, just their skin color.
Posted by: auscolpyr at February 28, 2018 09:35 PM (pzA2L)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:30 PM (6nRrz)
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Nope. Parents vote.
Posted by: Russian Bots, Inc. at February 28, 2018 09:32 PM (Pqytn)
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No I mean legally. Wouldn't a 33 year old have cause to sue for age discrimination? Not selling beer to an 18 year old is valid since that's the law. But arbitrarily setting an age to sell a legal product seem illegal, doesn't it? Kinda like saying we won't sell a product to Asians or left handed people or whatever.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:35 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Emmie
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Not directly, no. It never is.
Mark Pupurura, this guy.
Confirmation, from his tweets:
http://tinyurl.com/y89k5vb3
http://tinyurl.com/y948ozf9
Posted by: The Dead Horse. at February 28, 2018 09:35 PM (7ThJ3)
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Report: Broward State Attorney's Office Has Opened 40 Investigations Into Sheriff Israel's Office
Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 28, 2018 09:36 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Keyboard Cossack at February 28, 2018 09:36 PM (wSC8T)
I'll just double-down on my already unpopular stances ...
... raise the voting age
... shit-can the draft
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 09:30 PM (fiGNd)
Yep, I remember the argument was that 18 year olds could be drafted, so they should be able to vote. Then the 26th Amendment was ratified.
Then the draft was ended. So in that case, the 26th Amendment should be repealed.
Posted by: rickl at February 28, 2018 09:36 PM (sdi6R)
Watch what he does.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2018 09:36 PM (kgTp0)
Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2018 09:37 PM (EzdLW)
Here's the deal (and as always this is very general and depends on jurisdiction): Right now, when a DV TRO (domestic violence temporary restraining order) is issued ex parte (issued by a judge without there being a hearing at which the defendant is present ie ex = without parte = party), when that order is issued the order will contain within it a direction to the police to take all the defendant's guns.
So when the defendant gets served, the cops take the guns.
Then, depending on jurisdiction, anywhere from 5-10 days later, there is a hearing at which the defendant is present to determine if the TRO will stay in place.
So, yeah, due process has already been somewhat trampled upon when the TRO is initially issued. I believe the proposed GVRO follows pretty much those steps.
So this isn't anything new. Whether it's wise is a separate question, but it's not new.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe. Namaste. Prayer hands. Warrior stance. at February 28, 2018 09:26 PM (dEQP3)
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As someone who has been through this with a formerly hot but thoroughly crazy Ex (fucking Alabama Cheerleaders), I can concur.
She merely made the allegation that she feared I might get violent, with no history of such. Visit from the Sheriff, known guns were surrendered (SWIDT?).
Got them back after the TRO was lifted in 7 days because batshit crazy Ex had no evidence to support her claims.
Thank God I live in a red state.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 09:37 PM (hP7r7)
Don't be a douche. He's done nothing but talk. How'd that government shutdown, DACA, and tax cut conversation end up for the dems?
That's what I thought.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 28, 2018 09:32 PM (Dp6qK)
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Remind me again when Trump said Manchin and Feinstein should write the tax bill.
That's what I thought.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:37 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Infidel at February 28, 2018 09:38 PM (a3OL0)
One that won't make me drain my bank
Or make me feel I just bought a brick
I want a new gun - one that'll make someone dead
One that won't jam or run dry
Or make my arm all red
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 28, 2018 09:38 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Keyboard Cossack at February 28, 2018 09:36 PM (wSC8T)
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I have strong disagreements with him when he says shit like Manchin and Feinstein should write a great gun bill. And everyone else should as well.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:39 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Bikini atoll at February 28, 2018 09:39 PM (7ThJ3)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 09:30 PM (2DOZq)
???
What is?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 09:32 PM (SjImc)
I give. Not going to rehash the primary. Trump is my President now.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 09:39 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:39 PM (6nRrz)
And you seriously think that is how COngress works ha?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 09:39 PM (SjImc)
That's what I thought.
Posted by: #neverskankles
He said he'd sign whatever DiFi sent him. Surely you remember lighting your hair on fire and posting DOOOOOOOOM on every thread like you've got OCD over that.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at February 28, 2018 09:40 PM (HScFq)
Posted by: gNewt at February 28, 2018 09:40 PM (u5NuV)
Posted by: #neverskankles
Pick one:
1) Trump uses hyperbole and is less than genuine in negotiations.
2 ) Trump is the finest of orators, his words are precision made Logos. His existence shames Einstein, Shakespeare, and Demosthenes
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 28, 2018 09:41 PM (KXVP7)
Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2018 09:41 PM (Sfs6o)
We have bikini bridges and boobs. And yet he persisted.
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:41 PM (96C7R)
Remind me again when Trump said Manchin and Feinstein should write the tax bill.
That's what I thought.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:37 PM
It was bait.
Trump also asked Russia to help us get Hillary's emails back.
Salena Zito famously pointed out that some people take Trump literally but not seriously, and others take Trump seriously but not literally. You seem to be taking Trump both literally and seriously. Please don't.
Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2018 09:41 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Keyboard Cossack at February 28, 2018 09:41 PM (wSC8T)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:39 PM (6nRrz)
And you seriously think that is how COngress works ha?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 09:39 PM (SjImc)
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Well Manchin has experience writing gun control bills. He wrote one in 2013 that got 57 votes in the Senate. But yeah it's crazy to think that same bill, re-written by Manchin in 2018 might get 60.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:41 PM (6nRrz)
She merely made the allegation that she feared I might get violent, with no history of such. Visit from the Sheriff, known guns were surrendered (SWIDT?).
Got them back after the TRO was lifted in 7 days because batshit crazy Ex had no evidence to support her claims.
Thank God I live in a red state.
Posted by: Calm Mentor
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Exact same happened to a friend of mine. His ex just wanted to complicate his life. I mean, they were split up by then.
Posted by: Bikini atoll at February 28, 2018 09:42 PM (9tO1t)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Keyboard Cossack at February 28, 2018 09:41 PM (wSC8T)
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What Dem has opposed the idea of 21?
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:43 PM (6nRrz)
The problem with what Trump said is that he isn't pushing back. On pretty much everything else
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Trump is cornered right now. We are barely 14 days beyond 17 dead kids and unfortunately much of America wants to "do something" about this. If the Left makes him the face of the anti gun safety movement then every shooting after this one (and there will be more - local school districts and sheriff depts seem to be guaranteeing it) becomes his, and his presidency gets that much harder.
He didn't get where he has gotten now - successfully governing as roughly the most conservative anti-liberal president of our lives by not knowing what he's doing, so for the moment I will continue trusting him to keep fighting for us. You may not have noticed he is practically the only one.
Posted by: Mega at February 28, 2018 09:43 PM (rv0Fo)
Watch what he does.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2018 09:36 PM (kgTp0)
Some people have conveniently short short-term memory.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 28, 2018 09:43 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at February 28, 2018 09:43 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:41 PM (6nRrz)
And you think McConnell will allow that? Oki Doki
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 09:44 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2018 09:44 PM (kgTp0)
Posted by: Bikini atoll at February 28, 2018 09:42 PM (9tO1t)
The problem is that there are no consequences for when people file false claims.
You can, in theory (and depending on jurisdiction), file a civil action for abuse of process but there really do need to be charges brought for perjury for when women, and it's nearly 100% women, file false affidavits in support of the TROs.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe. Namaste. Prayer hands. Warrior stance. at February 28, 2018 09:45 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:41 PM (6nRrz)
And you think McConnell will allow that? Oki Doki
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 09:44 PM (SjImc)
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I think McConnell will not only allow it but vote for it too.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:45 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2018 09:45 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:45 PM (96C7R)
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at February 28, 2018 09:46 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2018 09:45 PM (EzdLW)
Can't argue with this logic.
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:46 PM (96C7R)
*throws up too sweet*
Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! at February 28, 2018 09:11 PM (IYHxL)
Don't know how I missed this.
You could be the Sting / Lex Lugar Horseman. But no Ole Anderson. You're a Face ... not a Heel.
Must ponder this.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 09:46 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at February 28, 2018 09:46 PM (hMwEB)
Doooooom *makes scary hand motions*
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 09:47 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:45 PM (6nRrz)
Quite a few Ar-15 owners here in Lexington.
Quite a few convenient lamp posts too.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2018 09:47 PM (kgTp0)
Posted by: Mega at February 28, 2018 09:43 PM (rv0Fo)
Good point there.
Posted by: quint at February 28, 2018 09:48 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:37 PM (6nRrz)
Did They?
That's what I thought.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 28, 2018 09:48 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 09:47 PM (lKs2v)
Wooooohhhhooooo Wooooohoooooo
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe. Namaste. Prayer hands. Warrior stance. at February 28, 2018 09:48 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:45 PM (6nRrz)
Quite a few Ar-15 owners here in Lexington.
Quite a few convenient lamp posts too.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2018 09:47 PM (kgTp0)
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The bill I was referring to was universal background checks not an AWB.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:48 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Zombie Lt. Gen. Frederick Browning at February 28, 2018 09:48 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Keyboard Cossack at February 28, 2018 09:48 PM (wSC8T)
Posted by: WisRich at February 28, 2018 09:48 PM (OAlmw)
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 09:47 PM (lKs2v)
Oh, you know sign language. Cool.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at February 28, 2018 09:48 PM (hMwEB)
BLAH BLAH BLAH TRUMP TALKS FUNNY BLAH BLAH ENOUGH ALL FUCKING READY!!!!!
I am SO fucking tired of these little digs at Trump because he "doesn't speak the language of the sophisticated... fuck, not even gonna finish that sentence.....
Trump talks like me, like an 8 year Navy vet with 7 SDP's on an SSBN in the North Atlantic under his belt- not virtue-signalling- just pointing out I understand every fucking word the President says- so why the fuck are we still talking about his poorly worded messages SO in need of interpretation?
Again, fucking sick of reading this. Ace- why are you doing this? Makes you look like a petty fucking dick.
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 28, 2018 09:49 PM (br2jI)
Posted by: WisRich at February 28, 2018 09:48 PM (OAlmw)
This is an astute point.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe. Namaste. Prayer hands. Warrior stance. at February 28, 2018 09:49 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: CM9000 at February 28, 2018 09:50 PM (FMPgd)
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 09:47 PM (lKs2v)
Oh, you know sign language. Cool.
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at February 28, 2018 09:48 PM (hMwEB)
Well, he's a ghost, so any hand motion he makes could be scary.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2018 09:50 PM (kgTp0)
I said post shooting, a day or two, that this time it was different. And I was called a troll, chicken little, etc.
Hate to say I was right....but....
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:50 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: Mega at February 28, 2018 09:43 PM (rv0Fo)
No, no, no. You have it all wrong. He grabbed us in our man pussies, and hurt our feelers with unkind words while he was working for us.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 28, 2018 09:50 PM (Dp6qK)
Watch what he does.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2018 09:36 PM (kgTp0
Unfortunately we got a big ass spending bill with no money for the wall.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 09:50 PM (2DOZq)
Lena Dunham? I think we might be going a bikini bridge too far.
Posted by: Zombie Lt. Gen. Frederick Browning at February 28, 2018 09:48 PM
@#!%#$! Operation Barfing Garden
Posted by: Zombie George Patton at February 28, 2018 09:51 PM (EzdLW)
... raise the voting age
... shit-can the draft
Posted by: ScoggDog
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I could agree with that.
If I'm being intellectually honest, I'm not sure 18 is mature enough anymore to allow everyone to own all guns.
I sure as hell don't think 18 is mature enough to vote.
What scares me though is where basically any two bit doctor can get guns taken away without due process.
Posted by: Apache at February 28, 2018 09:51 PM (uc45P)
I said post shooting, a day or two, that this time it was different. And I was called a troll, chicken little, etc.
Hate to say I was right....but....
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:50 PM (6nRrz)
You're annoying. Go away.
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 09:51 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: Thulsa Doom at February 28, 2018 09:51 PM (pzA2L)
Posted by: WisRich at February 28, 2018 09:48 PM (OAlmw)
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And what he says on camera is worse than what he's accused of by Dems.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:51 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! at February 28, 2018 09:52 PM (IYHxL)
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 28, 2018 09:49 PM (br2jI)
Ace is finally reaching the inescapable conclusion that Trump just isn't one of us!
Posted by: Bill Kristol at February 28, 2018 09:52 PM (wYseH)
Posted by: Bikini atoll at February 28, 2018 09:42 PM (9tO1t)
The problem is that there are no consequences for when people file false claims.
You can, in theory (and depending on jurisdiction), file a civil action for abuse of process but there really do need to be charges brought for perjury for when women, and it's nearly 100% women, file false affidavits in support of the TROs.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe. Namaste. Prayer hands. Warrior stance. at February 28, 2018 09:45 PM (dEQP3)
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Yep. This was also done to me in order to deny access to my two daughters for a period of time. A purely spiteful action, which my attorney crushed in court.
It backfired on the spawn of Satan at the final divorce hearing, and also allowed me to deny alimony, because the Judge could see what I was dealing with.
Crazy Ex's. The gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 28, 2018 09:52 PM (hP7r7)
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:52 PM (96C7R)
Posted by: The Dead Horse. at February 28, 2018 09:35 PM (7ThJ3)
Yikes. He wants to ban conversion therapy. It just seems so mean and perverse to me to try to keep people from altering their orientation if they want to.
I have a friend who decided to marry a woman and have a traditional family in spite of his homosexual orientation. (He was molested as a child.) He knew that this choice made his life far more fulfilling than it would have been if he had followed his urges.
Posted by: Emmie at February 28, 2018 09:52 PM (/A+Cl)
I said post shooting, a day or two, that this time it was different. And I was called a troll, chicken little, etc.
Hate to say I was right....but....
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:50 PM (6nRrz)
You're annoying. Go away.
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 09:51 PM (lKs2v)
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Maybe I'm annoying. But I was right.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:52 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: WisRich at February 28, 2018 09:48 PM (OAlmw)
This is an astute point.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe. Namaste. Prayer hands. Warrior stance. at February 28, 2018 09:49 PM (dEQP3)
Also cromulent.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 28, 2018 09:52 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:50 PM (6nRrz)
Except...it's just about done now. After this weekend, it'll be over.
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 28, 2018 09:53 PM (br2jI)
Posted by: buzzion
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Say, Buzz, do you know Jacob Marley?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:53 PM (nBBdT)
Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 28, 2018 09:53 PM (SkuXa)
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 28, 2018 09:49 PM (br2jI)
It's not Ace. It is some of the commentators
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 09:53 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:50 PM (6nRrz)
Come on, no one hates to say they were right.
It is like 'With all due respect' meaning 'For starters, kiss my ass Motherfucker...'
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2018 09:53 PM (kgTp0)
I guess she's just a concern troll as well, eh?
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:54 PM (6nRrz)
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 09:47 PM (lKs2v)
Well ... you can talk all the Doom you want ... you can make all the hand motions you want ...
... but ain't nothing as scary as the Legion of Gloom.
Although - it seems the Legion of Gloom is having a tough time getting off the ground.
*kicks mat*
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 09:54 PM (fiGNd)
Maybe I'm annoying. But I was right.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:52 PM
Cherry-picking season isn't until June.
Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2018 09:54 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Keyboard Cossack at February 28, 2018 09:54 PM (wSC8T)
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:50 PM (6nRrz)
The only real measure is legislation and election results. If after the mid-terms your forecast is correct, I will say that you were prescient.
But gloating now is unbecoming of...pretty much...any normal person.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 28, 2018 09:54 PM (wYseH)
Are you prepared to be the leader of the 2nd American Revolution? If not, just what the fuck are you advocating that the rest of us do that you haven't done or are unwilling to do yourself?
Posted by: Exile at February 28, 2018 09:54 PM (Fikbq)
I guess she's just a concern troll as well, eh?
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:54 PM (6nRrz)
Dana Loesch is always on a hair trigger to freak out about Trump. Just like you #chickenlittle.
Posted by: buzzion at February 28, 2018 09:55 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 28, 2018 09:55 PM (eASYU)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2018 09:56 PM (kgTp0)
The only real measure is legislation and election results. If after the mid-terms your forecast is correct, I will say that you were prescient.
But gloating now is unbecoming of...pretty much...any normal person.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 28, 2018 09:54 PM (wYseH)
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I said I was right about this shooting not going away after a few days or a week, like many here predicted. I said this time it's different. And it is.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 28, 2018 09:56 PM (6nRrz)
I guess she's just a concern troll as well, eh?
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If she we're here posting like an aspie monkey on meth yes.
Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 28, 2018 09:56 PM (SkuXa)
It is like 'With all due respect' meaning 'For starters, kiss my ass Motherfucker...'
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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I go with, "Well, my esteemed colleague..."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 28, 2018 09:56 PM (9tO1t)
Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! - Leigon of Gloom founding member/too sweet at February 28, 2018 09:57 PM (IYHxL)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BMYCJtHgmug
Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 28, 2018 09:57 PM (96C7R)
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Grammar Nazi!
Posted by: what a qunt at February 28, 2018 09:58 PM (ewxPW)
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She & her Douche Nozzle Husband were NeverTrumpers Chuckles
Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 28, 2018 10:00 PM (y3aQB)
Yeah that was me with the story of the SJW catlady calling the cops to say Mr. Right Wing next door is sick in the head.
I could totally see that happening if there was some sort of well we just gotta IMMEDIATELY get those goddamn guns away from a nut and here's the report saying he's a nut!
I don't put anything past shitlibs. They'd do it.
Having said that, I'm a firm believer that Trump is once again playing his game where he gets the Dems to sound like absolute fucking lunatics while he looks like a serious and presidential leader (which he is verbal tactics aside).
I've read more than a few articles about how Trump is very in tune with his base, who he calls "My people" and "My voters". I'm not that worried about this.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 28, 2018 10:01 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2018 09:53 PM (SjImc)
I was quoting his words in his post. But yeah, a lot of other people do it- just think it's a pile of horseshit to keep hearing about Trumps "crudity"... for fucks sake, read a fucking transcript of anything he says- he sounds like a normal American!
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 28, 2018 10:01 PM (br2jI)
Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! at February 28, 2018 09:52 PM (IYHxL)
Dude ... how in the hell did it take all the Big Promotions so long to embrace the Attitude Era ? The notion of The Anti-Hero ?
It wasn't new. Dutch Mantell and Bill Dundee both played that shit to the hilt in Memphis. Butch Reed was popular as Hell in Mid-South. The fans made The Road Warriors faces until the promoters just finally friggin' gave in.
The NWA made The Midnight Express faces for what ... about five minutes ... before the fans gobbled it up ?
The "BirdMan" ... KoKo Ware ... popular as shit in Memphis. Great athlete. Could work Face or Heel. Didn't matter - fans filled the stands. Because he was genuine and didn't follow the stupid Pure as the Driven Snow script. Worked an awesome 60 Minute match with Flair.
Loved the Attitude Era. Only WWF era that I followed.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 28, 2018 10:01 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: reddogg at February 28, 2018 10:13 PM (DOh3H)
I am certain that's just what happened with the mentally ill Georgia teacher who today brandished and fired ( out the window) a pistol he may or may not have acquired legally.
He's has multiple "kook" calls...at least two, one in which he confessed to a murder that was apparently a psychotic delusion, and a suicidal state of mind...
It's going to turn out that while often functional, he's had "out there" events that those with closer contact knew all about...and probably hid, so that he could keep working as a public school teacher with direct contact with students
Posted by: SarahW at February 28, 2018 10:27 PM (Sp1NT)
Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay Woke! at February 28, 2018 10:29 PM (IYHxL)
Posted by: TexasJew at February 28, 2018 11:08 PM (cnj3O)
1. No due process to take you guns
2. Assault weapons ban
3. No firearms until 21 but you still get to die for you
country at 18
4. NRA is evil
5. Trump gave Feinstein an orgasm *retch* *barf*
Fuck Trump!
#TedCruz2020 #TrumpInpeachment2018 #MAGA
Posted by: Trigger Warning at March 01, 2018 01:04 AM (YRXy3)
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Trying to do the take aways here. 34 take away 21 is 13.
23 take away 13 is 10
So the affair started with the young person was ten?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 28, 2018 08:59 PM (roQNm)
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The relationship began when she was 21, EXACTLY LIKE I SAID IN THE POST.
This is why your girlfriend is old with vagine like sleeve of wizard.
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All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)