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Gierymski Oranges.jpg

Jewess With Oranges
Aleksander Gierymski

Posted by: CBD at 09:35 AM




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1 First?

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at February 23, 2018 09:29 AM (Vzqe+)

2 Second?

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at February 23, 2018 09:30 AM (Vzqe+)

3 Third?

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at February 23, 2018 09:30 AM (Vzqe+)

4 I'm on fire!

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at February 23, 2018 09:30 AM (Vzqe+)

5 Fourth?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2018 09:30 AM (kqsXK)

6 I own this thread.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at February 23, 2018 09:30 AM (Vzqe+)

7 Second, by a nose

Posted by: Easy Money at February 23, 2018 09:30 AM (vGFvO)

8 Jewish Woman Selling Oranges

Before or after the pogrom?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2018 09:31 AM (kqsXK)

9 Interesting look on her face.

Posted by: dantesed at February 23, 2018 09:31 AM (88xKn)

10 Selling oranges and a golf ball.

FIFY

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2018 09:31 AM (E8rdu)

11 Hah, that worked out even better than I was expecting. Sorry, MP4.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at February 23, 2018 09:31 AM (Vzqe+)

12 Germans beat Canada in hockey 4-3. That's gonna sting.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 23, 2018 09:31 AM (O5Q3r)

13 Next-ish

Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 23, 2018 09:32 AM (9CNbM)

14 Corgis summoned. Here we are.

Nice character study, CBD. Thanks.

I guess this is plan B for when you age out of selling at the makeup counter in a department store.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:33 AM (hyuyC)

15 Sneaky Jooos and their fresh citrus goods.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2018 09:33 AM (9SkN+)

16 Did she glue that third basket to her elbow?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2018 09:33 AM (WuRdh)

17 Why is Mueller filing new charges against Manafort and Gates?

Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 23, 2018 09:33 AM (9CNbM)

18 Are those seedless oranges?

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 09:33 AM (r9UYA)

19 Life was hard back in the past. People forget.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:33 AM (hyuyC)

20 Where did she get fresh oranges in Poland?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 09:34 AM (+Dllb)

21 The Great White Scotsman

Iceland.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:34 AM (hyuyC)

22 Jewish Woman Selling Oranges

Before or after the pogrom?



It's Europe. So both.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2018 09:34 AM (9SkN+)

23 She's knitting, too...multi-tasking!

Posted by: BignJames at February 23, 2018 09:35 AM (0+nbW)

24 Here's a painting I imagine the Horde could have fun with - Two Sisters, by Cornelis de Vos:

https://tinyurl.com/yd423nse

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2018 09:35 AM (kqsXK)

25 >>17 Why is Mueller filing new charges against Manafort and Gates?

Because he's a stand-up guy and he is doing his job.

Posted by: Trey Gowdy at February 23, 2018 09:35 AM (r9UYA)

26 That's either a moldy orange or a pelota she's got there.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:36 AM (NWiLs)

27 I like this a lot. She has the weight of the world on her.

What's she knitting? A sleeve?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2018 09:36 AM (fuK7c)

28 Soviet bread orange line?

Posted by: Cyril Figgus at February 23, 2018 09:36 AM (SkuXa)

29 Looking at the side links -there now is a vibrator that will order Dominos Pizza when she "finishes"? Calling it the RubGrub. Has a button on it similar to the Amazon Dash button? What are they calling this button? The Amazing Gash?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2018 09:36 AM (jxbfJ)

30 MP4 - those sisters look like a barrel of laughs.

Not.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 23, 2018 09:36 AM (E8rdu)

31 The Great White Scotsman

Actually from South Russia. Think Sochi. By train.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:37 AM (hyuyC)

32 24 Here's a painting I imagine the Horde could have fun with - Two Sisters, by Cornelis de Vos:

https://tinyurl.com/yd423nse
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2018 09:35 AM (kqsXK)

They're pinching each other outside the frame. After the sitting there's gonna be SUCH a screaming match.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 23, 2018 09:37 AM (RD7QR)

33 That's either a moldy orange or a pelota she's got there.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:36 AM (NWiLs)



It's a little-known fact that Jews introduced the sport of jai-alai to Eastern Europe.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 23, 2018 09:37 AM (9SkN+)

34 Babushka momma.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 23, 2018 09:37 AM (hPfYF)

35 Did anyone else think that was a picture of Justin Trudeau?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at February 23, 2018 09:37 AM (O7MnT)

36 Where did she get fresh oranges in Poland?

The Mossad gave them to her.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 23, 2018 09:37 AM (O5Q3r)

37 Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Not interested. Too young. No boobies.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:38 AM (hyuyC)

38 >>35 Did anyone else think that was a picture of Justin Trudeau?

I thought it was Macron's wife.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 09:38 AM (r9UYA)

39 She looks related to Robin Williams.

Posted by: t-bird at February 23, 2018 09:38 AM (2z74n)

40 20 Where did she get fresh oranges in Poland?

The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land?

Posted by: King Arthur at February 23, 2018 09:38 AM (p6e8W)

41 17 Why is Mueller filing new charges against Manafort and Gates?
Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 23, 2018 09:33 AM (9CNbM)

Because he's a fag and his shit's all retarded. Also because he's got nothing else so he has to look like he actually serves some kind of purpose. In my mind, his purpose would be to be impaled and displayed on the National Mall pours encourager les autres.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:38 AM (NWiLs)

42 As to the actual painting at the top, this is a woman who has seen much sadness and has slogged through it, day by day, taking care of her regular customers and her family and trying not to give in to the pains of life. The artist captures the expression of this life on her face well, I think. Excellent choice.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 23, 2018 09:39 AM (RD7QR)

43 40 20 Where did she get fresh oranges in Poland?

The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land?
Posted by: King Arthur at February 23, 2018 09:38 AM (p6e8W)

Are you suggesting oranges migrate?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:39 AM (NWiLs)

44 King Arthur

I say, good sir. Well done.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:39 AM (hyuyC)

45 Trucked up from Spain. And maybe brought across from Algeria first.

Shorter run than from Florida to Minnesota, right?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 23, 2018 09:39 AM (5OEn4)

46 Oranges were a once a year treat in Soviet times. Also, the era of Soviet hegemony in Poland was post WWII. Which this isn't, because of what happened to Warsaw.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2018 09:40 AM (fuK7c)

47 From the sidebar:

"About that one armed guard at the High School in Parkland"

So, where can a one armed gal meet this one armed guard? He sounds hawt.

Posted by: Michele Feelds at February 23, 2018 09:40 AM (juCZM)

48 Jak sie masz!

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 23, 2018 09:40 AM (5OEn4)

49 17 Why is Mueller filing new charges against Manafort and Gates?

I assume a preemptive PR move now that his Flynn charges are about to fall apart.

Posted by: JT in KC at February 23, 2018 09:40 AM (WN4Rn)

50 She has some stories to tell. Sad Russian ones.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:40 AM (hyuyC)

51 Baba Yaga...

Posted by: Viggo Tarasov at February 23, 2018 09:40 AM (SkuXa)

52 >>20 Where did she get fresh oranges in Poland?

Tropicana juice train?

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 09:40 AM (r9UYA)

53 50 She has some stories to tell. Sad Russian ones.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:40 AM (hyuyC)

Isn't that redundant?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:41 AM (NWiLs)

54 >>>> 20 Where did she get fresh oranges in Poland?



The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the
plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to
our land?


Posted by: King Arthur at February 23, 2018 09:38 AM
.
.
.Are you saying that oranges migrate?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 09:41 AM (+Dllb)

55 51 Baba Yaga...
Posted by: Viggo Tarasov at February 23, 2018 09:40 AM (SkuXa)

She killed three men with a pencil. A fucking pencil!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:41 AM (NWiLs)

56 Are you saying that oranges migrate?

Posted by: Amy Schumer at February 23, 2018 09:42 AM (9SkN+)

57 The sniper is in that spire on the left.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:42 AM (NWiLs)

58 Meant to post a link related to this one in the last thread but this is better.

Lee Smith of Tablet mag breaks down possible sources for the Dossier, and just how f*cked up the whole thing is.

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/253004/fusion-gps-donald-trump

Posted by: John Joseph Cass at February 23, 2018 09:42 AM (D52LJ)

59 Insomniac,

There are happy Russian stories somewhere.

Hope you are doing as well as can be expected. You are in my thoughts. Still need that Plan B job?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:42 AM (hyuyC)

60 I own this thread.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
------------

You didn't build that.

Posted by: Barky at February 23, 2018 09:42 AM (qK7/b)

61 Nothing beats fresh-squeezed orange jewess in the morning!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:43 AM (NWiLs)

62 Life was hard back in the past. People forget.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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Complacent, and spoiled.

Posted by: Barky at February 23, 2018 09:43 AM (qK7/b)

63 Not interested. Too young. No boobies.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:38 AM (hyuyC)


You could look up "Boobsie Twins."

But here you go for SFW:

https://tinyurl.com/ps57whq

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2018 09:44 AM (kqsXK)

64 Oops. /Dog-eater sock

Posted by: m at February 23, 2018 09:44 AM (qK7/b)

65 24 Here's a painting I imagine the Horde could have fun with - Two Sisters, by Cornelis de Vos:
https://tinyurl.com/yd423nse

aaah! the floating heads of death!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 09:44 AM (V2Yro)

66
Nice painting.

Just saw Trump answering questions from reporters on way to CPAC. He did everything but call the cowardly cop a coward.

Posted by: Acme Explosives at February 23, 2018 09:44 AM (2FqvZ)

67 59 Insomniac,

There are happy Russian stories somewhere.

Hope you are doing as well as can be expected. You are in my thoughts. Still need that Plan B job?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:42 AM (hyuyC)

About as can be expected. I'm still working the Plan A. I'm getting by, barely, but hopefully it will pick up and get steadier.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:44 AM (NWiLs)

68 How does he know she's a joo?

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2018 09:44 AM (LiyEm)

69 Oranges in Russia? Sure she is not a Florida winterbird?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2018 09:45 AM (4lzWT)

70
Inspired by the poor districts of Warsaw. Thought it might have been in 19th-century Galicia, the West Virginia of Europe.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2018 09:45 AM (BWL+E)

71 63 Not interested. Too young. No boobies.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:38 AM (hyuyC)

You could look up "Boobsie Twins."

But here you go for SFW:

https://tinyurl.com/ps57whq
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2018 09:44 AM (kqsXK)

Great gooka mooka.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:45 AM (NWiLs)

72 I'm suffering through Juan Williams and Steve Hayes stroking each other waiting for PDT to speak.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 09:45 AM (r9UYA)

73 Nothing beats fresh-squeezed orange jewess in the morning!

You got that right!

Posted by: Orange Julius at February 23, 2018 09:46 AM (kqsXK)

74 Looked up this painting.

Painted in Warsaw. Stolen by some German in WWII. Rediscovered in Germany, bought by the Polish Government and returned to Poland in 2011.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:46 AM (hyuyC)

75 Orange you glad she didn't sell bananas?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2018 09:47 AM (wPiJc)

76 Images of the careworn affect me. Of course, things were going to get even worse.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2018 09:47 AM (qK7/b)

77 Oh gawd, Super Beets are still a thing?

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 09:47 AM (r9UYA)

78 Interesting history - painting was stolen by German forces invading Poland, disappeared until 2011 when it turned up at an antique market in northern Germany. Poland successfully petitioned for its return.

speculation - bet some SS officer burned his uniform and hid the painting in his attic, and so did his son. Grandson never knew what he had, so he put it out in public to try to get a few euros.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 09:47 AM (V2Yro)

79 You could look up "Boobsie Twins."

But here you go for SFW:

https://tinyurl.com/ps57whq

-----------------

OH MY GOD!

Posted by: Rich Evans at February 23, 2018 09:48 AM (SkuXa)

80 I don't find this at all appealing.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2018 09:48 AM (wPiJc)

81 Bad sheitel

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2018 09:48 AM (5gaNQ)

82 76 Images of the careworn affect me. Of course, things were going to get even worse.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2018 09:47 AM (qK7/b)

Worst of all she's only 36.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:48 AM (NWiLs)

83 Are you saying that oranges migrate?

It could grip it by the husk!

Posted by: King Arthur at February 23, 2018 09:49 AM (p6e8W)

84 How does he know she's a joo?
Posted by: steevy
------------

Perhaps Soros ratted her out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2018 09:49 AM (qK7/b)

85 Obligatory.

http://www.ahajokes.com/ethnic32.html

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 23, 2018 09:49 AM (/qEW2)

86 83 Are you saying that oranges migrate?

It could grip it by the husk!
Posted by: King Arthur at February 23, 2018 09:49 AM (p6e8W)

It doesn't matter where he grips it, it's a simple question of weight ratios!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 09:50 AM (NWiLs)

87 Are you saying that oranges migrate?
-

Travel by sea...they're navel oranges.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2018 09:50 AM (qK7/b)

88 MO Governor is one sick fvck.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 09:50 AM (r9UYA)

89 Diana Dors. 2nd husband was Richard Dawson. Pretty lady.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at February 23, 2018 09:50 AM (N3JsI)

90 Orange joos?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2018 09:50 AM (Dp6qK)

91 Bet she was hot when she was younger.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 09:50 AM (70cRb)

92 CN, perhaps the best she could do in that time period.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 09:51 AM (Z8j2x)

93 Boobsie Twins

Do not image search this in Bing with safe search turned off. Would not be prudent.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:51 AM (hyuyC)

94 >>>>>Are you saying that oranges migrate?

-



Travel by sea...they're navel oranges.


Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2018 09:50 AM
.
.
.They could be carried on the backs of dolphins.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 09:51 AM (+Dllb)

95 Jewess' thought bubble: "I see dead people."

Posted by: Nosferatu at February 23, 2018 09:51 AM (ghzHY)

96 The patriarchal race to claim "First!" is just another example of male entitlement.

Additionally, the presumed right to use and abuse something and then walk away to conquer something new is a hallmark of colonialism.

Posted by: Marcie "Fine Italian Meats" Bianco at February 23, 2018 09:51 AM (ctuyM)

97 Let's see how deep the reporters go into the Broward county schools and sheriff's department.

And let's see how well it all fares under the glaring spotlights of civil suits by the families that lost kids.

The Broward Coward cop appears to be one of the team set up to whitewash the student crime.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 23, 2018 09:52 AM (5OEn4)

98 Willowed

It's like that Seinfeld episode where George thinks of the perfect insult a day too late.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 09:36 AM (V2Yro)


Schiff belongs in the Jerk Store more than Costanza.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2018 09:52 AM (y7DUB)

99 Posted by: John Joseph Cass at February 23, 2018 09:42 AM (D52LJ)



I found myself explaining the whole dossier story to my 78yo mother the other night (after explaining the term "dossier"). There I was, describing to my elderly, devout Southern Baptist mom the allegations about Trump, urine, and hookers.


My mom's response: "People actually believed that?"

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 23, 2018 09:52 AM (uiwCw)

100 no idea why any jew would remain in europe or any other country only safety in my opinion is here or Israel.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 09:52 AM (Z8j2x)

101 Anybody remember the Saturday Night Live parody, "Jewess Jeans"? With Gilda Radner and Larraine Newman as stereotypical 1970s JAPs?

Posted by: Pete in Texas at February 23, 2018 09:52 AM (TVsJX)

102 92: Or maybe it's a statement of "modesty". I've seen equally shitty ones in NYC, especially in Kew GArdens Hills

Posted by: CN at February 23, 2018 09:53 AM (5gaNQ)

103 The sniper is in that spire on the left.

******

Motivation - a limerick

This woman should be highly admired
Though she's destitute, weary and tired
When she starts to feel pity
She just looks to the city
With that skyline...she'll soon be en-spired!

Posted by: Muldoon at February 23, 2018 09:53 AM (wPiJc)

104 Off Royal Sock!

Also, are you saying a five ounce bird could not carry a one pound orange?

Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 23, 2018 09:53 AM (p6e8W)

105 Muldoon

Put that one in Volume II.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:54 AM (hyuyC)

106 Mornin' Horde. I kinda like this one. She has this look on her face, as if to say "yes, life can be hard, but what can you do but live?"

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at February 23, 2018 09:54 AM (AM1GF)

107 Willowed.

434 why this can happen , i don't know!
except the funding.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 09:33 AM (Z8j2x)

Thats why they have ISS.In School Suspension. Under the radar.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 09:49 AM (70cRb)

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 09:54 AM (70cRb)

108 no idea why any jew would remain in europe or any other country only safety in my opinion is here or Israel.
Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 09:52 AM (Z8j2x)

Same reason conservatives stay in their deep blue states and dont move to Texas. That said, I wish liberals would quit moving here.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2018 09:54 AM (4lzWT)

109 cavil, i agree .

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 09:55 AM (Z8j2x)

110 Travel by sea...they're navel oranges.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc
===

Which explains the linty one.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2018 09:55 AM (qK7/b)

111 So, we have gone from Jewess with Oranges to Mexican Illegal Alien in intersection at stop light with oranges. Progress?

Posted by: Archer at February 23, 2018 09:55 AM (gbWkA)

112 This is an impressive painting. Almost the opposite of 'romantic', it stresses the rather realistic figure dead center in the frame, staring out at the viewer. Gierymski captured the age and woes of the woman's life in her expression and hands. Her hands are busy with knitting or something similar because she must not waste time or rest. The realism of the figure is emphasized by the soft background and her well-worn clothes. Even the richer colors in the fruit and parts of her clothing are slightly muted, not jewel-like. It focuses on her face and hands.

The painting is not just a single moment. It suggests a life story leading to the image caught on canvas, at least to me. I don't know if the artist was making a social statement or just found the woman to be an interesting figure.

Posted by: JTB at February 23, 2018 09:56 AM (V+03K)

113 And knitting. How could he have left out the most important part?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 23, 2018 09:56 AM (rp9xB)

114 Knitting a tube sock.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 23, 2018 09:58 AM (7ZVPa)

115 I think the Deputy who stayed outside & hid should be named "Deputy Duck" as in the Cartoon character Deputy Dawg

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 23, 2018 09:58 AM (y3aQB)

116 Very striking. Love the vibrancy of the oranges

Posted by: Tuna at February 23, 2018 09:59 AM (wt0kN)

117 Everybody knew about this kid. This is systemic in south Florida to "lower the arrest/suspension rate"

https://tinyurl.com/y897dc6x

Posted by: Timon at February 23, 2018 10:00 AM (NTM5E)

118 About those dildoes connected to the internet,we certainly wont be spying on you with them.No ma'am.
Bob from the NSA

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2018 10:00 AM (LiyEm)

119 Meh, it's a skillful character study, reminds me of some of Rembrandt's stuff. Call me a Philistine, but I prefer beautiful paintings that stress nature, like the one with the mother and daughter on a river bank in France. These studies - they tend to be downers.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 23, 2018 10:00 AM (/qEW2)

120 Cannibal, i know what the school did , there was an actual anger with his kinder teacher and a couple of other teachers . Yet they allowed the school to run him over to save itself.

also the counselor are not counselors per say but there to protect the school funding. told a 6 year old to get over it!

the only time i've threatened another human being in my life.

the perp i don't believe was a student, larger than i , smaller than his father.

anyway i moved to another state. small town small school, i had more control over his environment. maybe.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:00 AM (Z8j2x)

121 Anybody remember the Saturday Night Live parody, "Jewess Jeans"? With Gilda Radner and Larraine Newman as stereotypical 1970s JAPs?

Posted by: Pete in Texas at February 23, 2018 09:52 AM (TVsJX)


https://tinyurl.com/yasjexuz

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2018 10:00 AM (kqsXK)

122 Its a sad painting, isn't it? Very emotive of the time and yes, we do forget how hard most people had it those days.

Posted by: IC at February 23, 2018 10:01 AM (a0IVu)

123 Thats why they have ISS.In School Suspension. Under the radar.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 09:49 AM (70cRb)

and if the school has ISS, LULAC or some other group would complain to admin that too many of their "ethnic group" are being sent, thus circle time and hugs.

Posted by: auscolpyr at February 23, 2018 10:01 AM (suO/a)

124 tmi, sorry it was something that profoundly affected my child and me.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:02 AM (Z8j2x)

125 Posted by: Timon at February 23, 2018 10:00 AM (NTM5E)

It isn't going on just in Florida. We're seeing it in Baltimore, Philadelphia (Wyatt Earp just had a post about non-bond charges yesterday), and in Chicago.

With the expected results. And in this atmosphere, the same bastards want to disarm the rest of us.

Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at February 23, 2018 10:02 AM (+u2St)

126 Bernie Sanders' Son Wants To Run For Congress -WZ

He'll probably win too.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:02 AM (r9UYA)

127 Beautifully realistic. What a difficult life she must have led. She was 23 or 24 in this painting?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, concerned citizen at February 23, 2018 10:03 AM (ylUqT)

128 In addition to the expressiveness of this painting, check out some of Gierymski's landscapes. They are excellent.

Posted by: JTB at February 23, 2018 10:03 AM (V+03K)

129
also the counselor are not counselors per say but there to protect the school funding. told a 6 year old to get over it!

the only time i've threatened another human being in my life.

the perp i don't believe was a student, larger than i , smaller than his father.

anyway i moved to another state. small town small school, i had more control over his environment. maybe.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:00 AM (Z8j2x)

Willow, that is an appalling story. The government cannot and in many cases will not protect us or our children. And they would eb happy to take away you right to do so. I have decide to be an activist and will review every school funding bill. I know what to look fo as a teacher. and fight to keep good people armed.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 10:05 AM (70cRb)

130 101 Anybody remember the Saturday Night Live parody, "Jewess Jeans"? With Gilda Radner and Larraine Newman as stereotypical 1970s JAPs?
Posted by: Pete in Texas at February 23, 2018 09:52 AM (TVsJX)

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Monday, a lot of the girls at my school ditched their Jordache and Calvin Klein jeans for the day.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 23, 2018 10:05 AM (EZebt)

131 O/T Jordan Peterson on Beck's program right now.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at February 23, 2018 10:05 AM (ihzOe)

132 Yes,because black and hispanic kids get into legal trouble so much more than whites they have to do something about it.Can't have those white supremacists seem to be right.

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2018 10:05 AM (LiyEm)

133 126 Bernie Sanders' Son Wants To Run For Congress -WZ

He'll probably win too.


Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:02 AM (r9UYA)

Can there be a law that once someone wins election, their next 2 direct generations become ineligible?

Posted by: Hikaru at February 23, 2018 10:06 AM (WDCYi)

134 Knitting a tube sock.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 23, 2018 09:58 AM (7ZVPa)


It's a sweater for her pet snake.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at February 23, 2018 10:08 AM (+F0Wk)

135 Monday, a lot of the girls at my school ditched their Jordache and Calvin Klein jeans for the day.
Posted by: San Franpsycho


Excellent. Did you get pics?

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2018 10:08 AM (8ikIW)

136 112
You do have a way with words. What a splendid description of the painting.

Posted by: Tuna at February 23, 2018 10:08 AM (wt0kN)

137
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 23, 2018 09:39 AM (RD7QR)

The artist did a great job of capturing the story her visage tells.

Posted by: kallisto at February 23, 2018 10:08 AM (Iz8Py)

138 Looking at the side links -there now is a vibrator that will order Dominos Pizza when she "finishes"? Calling it the RubGrub. Has a button on it similar to the Amazon Dash button? What are they calling this button? The Amazing Gash?
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I call it a "miracle."

Posted by: Trigglypuff at February 23, 2018 10:08 AM (vg8iE)

139 Just don't go looking for his plums.

Posted by: Sweet Little Babuska from Bydgoszcz at February 23, 2018 10:09 AM (6jwnl)

140 Cannibal, if you do this thing, i would say that is quite an endeavor and surely would help those little people that parents such as i expected and those children we entrusted to your care.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:10 AM (Z8j2x)

141 Bernie Sanders' Son Wants To Run For Congress -WZ

He'll probably win too.


Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:02 AM (r9UYA)

Can there be a law that once someone wins election, their next 2 direct generations become ineligible?
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I wonder if he, too, has an extensive catalog of self-penned rape fantasy literature.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 23, 2018 10:10 AM (vg8iE)

142 Everybody knew about this kid. This is systemic in south Florida to "lower the arrest/suspension rate"

https://tinyurl.com/y897dc6x


Posted by: Timon at February 23, 2018 10:00 AM (NTM5E)
===========================
wow. quite a timeline.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, concerned citizen at February 23, 2018 10:11 AM (ylUqT)

143 PDT on now

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:11 AM (r9UYA)

144 Trump speaking at CPAC now.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 10:11 AM (398bZ)

145 I rarely comment on politics on the art thread. But I don't want a TSA-style program for schools. It is a useless cluster fuck for travel and would be worse for schools. Qualified, armed teachers and security is the way to go. If shit for brains Dems gripe about "The Cost", take it out of the Dept. of Education budget. They aren't doing anything useful with the funds now.

Posted by: JTB at February 23, 2018 10:11 AM (V+03K)

146 .Are you saying that oranges migrate?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 09:41 AM (+Dllb)

You forget, I was present at an unexplained undersea mass sponge migration.

Posted by: Dr. Raymond Stantz at February 23, 2018 10:11 AM (7HtZB)

147 Anybody remember the Saturday Night Live parody, "Jewess Jeans"? With Gilda Radner and Larraine Newman as stereotypical 1970s JAPs?
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Hilarious!

Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 23, 2018 10:11 AM (vg8iE)

148 JTB, i agree, only the 'fit' should apply.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:12 AM (Z8j2x)

149 Does she sell crunchy figs?

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2018 10:12 AM (7HtZB)

150 Qualified, armed teachers and security is the way to go. If shit for brains Dems gripe about "The Cost", take it out of the Dept. of Education budget. They aren't doing anything useful with the funds now.
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Why can't we just use the DOE's own SWAT team?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 23, 2018 10:13 AM (vg8iE)

151 Posted by: SandyCheeks at February 23, 2018 10:05 AM (ihzOe)

My broadcast is an hour behind. Damn.

I hope Peterson doesn't fall for Becks charms and ends up Ted Cruzing himself.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay Woke! at February 23, 2018 10:13 AM (IYHxL)

152 Love the painting.

Posted by: Caliban at February 23, 2018 10:13 AM (QE8X6)

153 136 ... Tuna,
Thanks for the kind words. (Blushing)

Posted by: JTB at February 23, 2018 10:13 AM (V+03K)

154 Mornin' Horde. I kinda like this one. She has this look on her face, as if to say "yes, life can be hard, but what can you do but live?"

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at February 23, 2018 09:54 AM (AM1GF)


========

Why go through this hollow charade called life? Why, except that somewhere within us a voice says, "Live." Always, from some inner region, we hear the command, "Keep living!" Cloquet recognized the voice; it was his insurance salesman. "Naturally", he thought, "Fishbein doesn't want to pay off."
- Woody Allen, Side Effects

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 23, 2018 10:14 AM (/qEW2)

155
Is she one of the Minute Maid Orange Jews i hear so much about?










Is someone hasn't made a similar joke yet....who are you people?

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2018 10:14 AM (E3rQ4)

156 PDT speaking at CPAC now.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 23, 2018 10:15 AM (H0hPC)

157 Looks like a heckler was just kicked out.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 10:15 AM (398bZ)

158 Hipster douchebag being escorted out.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:15 AM (r9UYA)

159 PDT punches MSM in nuts again. Good.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:15 AM (r9UYA)

160 158 Hipster douchebag being escorted out.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:15 AM (r9UYA)

Will be given job at CNN before the day is out.

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2018 10:16 AM (7HtZB)

161 160 158 Hipster douchebag being escorted out.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:15 AM (r9UYA)

Will be given job at CNN before the day is out.
Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2018 10:16 AM (7HtZB)
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And then a "Town Hall Event".

Posted by: WisRich at February 23, 2018 10:17 AM (G0vdT)

162 Hipster douchebag being escorted out.
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Into the comforting arms of his husband.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 23, 2018 10:17 AM (vg8iE)

163 People are whooping it up about the tax cuts.


Regarding mid-term slump:

"You are tired after winning the Presidency. Then you have to fight again. And the other side is crazed. ... If we clobbered in 18, we can't let that happen."


LOL


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:18 AM (8iiMU)

164 There's a meme that the cop guarding the school was justified because he only had a cop gun (presumably something like a Glock) while the shooter had military gear. I'm skeptical.

We're talking engagement in close quarters where long-range accuracy is not a factor. Glocks were designed for the military and shoot just as fast. AR15s seem to have smaller rounds than your typical Glock which are 9mms to 45s. Mag capacity for both are large.

Any experts want to weigh in

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2018 10:18 AM (n+6mJ)

165 160 158 Hipster douchebag being escorted out.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:15 AM (r9UYA)

Will be given job at CNN before the day is out.

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2018 10:16 AM (7HtZB)


Probably getting his Blue Checkmark on Twitter and a sinecure at some NGO as we speak.

Posted by: Hikaru at February 23, 2018 10:19 AM (WDCYi)

166 PDT: "The beautiful thing about the tax cuts is that nobody thought it would happen."




Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:19 AM (8iiMU)

167 She is ugly, but Cthulhu will still find her soul pleasingly ripe.

Posted by: Flannery O'Connor at February 23, 2018 10:19 AM (Bdeb0)

168 Oh, Donnie. He's such a screwball. I love this guy.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 23, 2018 10:19 AM (jnLXM)

169 There's a meme that the cop guarding the school was justified because he only had a cop gun (presumably something like a Glock) while the shooter had military gear.

--
the perp did not have military gear.

A handgun is at least as fast as an AR, and shoots larger rounds.

The guard was a coward, and worked for cowards.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 23, 2018 10:20 AM (7ZVPa)

170 Pretty smoggy in the background. They burned a lot of shit back then.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at February 23, 2018 10:20 AM (rdl6o)

171 >>AR15s seem to have smaller rounds than your typical Glock which are 9mms to 45s. Mag capacity for both are large. Any experts want to weigh in
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2018 10:18 AM (n+6mJ)

...and so it begins.

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:21 AM (Bdeb0)

172 Trump: "Then the Presidential race comes again and people get off their asses."

Heh.

Posted by: WisRich at February 23, 2018 10:21 AM (G0vdT)

173 PDT: "If they get in they will repeal your tax cuts, they will put in judges you won't like, and they will try to repeal your 2nd amendment, which we will never allow that to happen."

Massive cheering.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:21 AM (8iiMU)

174 167 She is ugly, but Cthulhu will still find her soul pleasingly ripe.
Posted by: Flannery O'Connor at February 23, 2018 10:19 AM (Bdeb0)

I wish she had written some Cthulhu Mythos. That would have been awesome.

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2018 10:21 AM (7HtZB)

175

FIRST!!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 23, 2018 10:21 AM (cYjBc)

176 158 Hipster douchebag being escorted out.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:15 AM (r9UYA)

Will be given job at CNN before the day is out.
Posted by: josephistan

And a job on the next Olympics crack announcing team

Posted by: Bruce at February 23, 2018 10:21 AM (8ikIW)

177 There's a meme that the cop guarding the school was justified because he only had a cop gun (presumably something like a Glock) while the shooter had military gear.

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So f---ing what.

Posted by: SH at February 23, 2018 10:22 AM (sX1BW)

178 Trump is off the prompter at CPAC.

Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2018 10:22 AM (Enq6K)

179 155
Is she one of the Minute Maid Orange Jews i hear so much about?










Is someone hasn't made a similar joke yet....who are you people?
Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2018 10:14 AM (E3rQ4)

See #61

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 10:22 AM (NWiLs)

180 "We had a very crooked media. We had a crooked candidate, by the way."

LMAO


"Boy, have they committed a lot of atrocities, when you look."



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:22 AM (8iiMU)

181 Happy G. F. Handel's birthday. Born Feb 23, 1685. He and Bach were both born the same year but never met. Handel became kind of a pop star in England, while Bach chose to lead a more mundane existence.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 23, 2018 10:23 AM (/qEW2)

182 Lock her up!

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 10:23 AM (398bZ)

183 Trump is having fun up there.

Posted by: WisRich at February 23, 2018 10:23 AM (G0vdT)

184 'Crooked media'

BOOM

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:23 AM (r9UYA)

185 PDT: "The beautiful thing about the tax cuts is that nobody thought it would happen."


The beautiful thing about the tax cuts was that ever single Democrat in the House and Senate voted against them. Every.single.one.

If that's not a commercial this summer the Republicans should be arrested for misfeasance.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2018 10:23 AM (QQ+il)

186 Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2018 10:18 AM (n+6mJ)

I understand the spin but it is just that , spin. He should have attempted to engage to stop or redirect the shooters fire from others. It happens quite frequently that LE is outgunned but it does not stop them from engaging. He would have had additional mags also.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2018 10:23 AM (4lzWT)

187 Is someone hasn't made a similar joke yet....who are you people?
Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2018 10:14 AM (E3rQ4)

I was surprised people left "orange joos" just lying unused and shiny new on the table by comment 90. I guess these hoity toity art people are a different breed.

*pinky out*

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 23, 2018 10:23 AM (Dp6qK)

188 Just caught a clip of Trump at CPAC. He had said something I missed about the Dems wanting to take back the tax cut, then asked, "Which would you rather have - the Second Amendment or tax cuts?"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2018 10:23 AM (kqsXK)

189 re media: committed atrocities.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:23 AM (r9UYA)

190 Let's see how deep the reporters go into the Broward county schools and sheriff's department.

And let's see how well it all fares under the glaring spotlights of civil suits by the families that lost kids.

The Broward Coward cop appears to be one of the team set up to whitewash the student crime.


Something tells me they're going to regret the media attention. If I'm ever in a situation where I'm approached by the media, I'll politely decline to be interviewed. It's not worth the scrutiny. As a matter of fact, the last few companies I worked for made a point of informing us not to make any statements to the media after being identified as a company employee.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at February 23, 2018 10:24 AM (rdl6o)

191 LOL, Took shot at McCain over healthcare repeal.

Posted by: WisRich at February 23, 2018 10:24 AM (G0vdT)

192 Trump said "atrocities," which could become a huge meme of butthurt by the Dems. I hope so.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 10:24 AM (398bZ)

193 The reaction to this speech by the MFM will be fun to watch....



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:24 AM (8iiMU)

194 Shooting in Austin by man with rifle, stopped by cop with pistols.
Mall shooting in Oklahoma 10 or so years ago by guy with AK, offed himself when he SAW a police officer with a handgun.

I'm sure others can add more, that's just off the top of my head. Yes I'd rather have an AR than a pistol but this bullshit is just an extension of the left trying to turn an AR into a magical bazooka.

Posted by: Rich Evans at February 23, 2018 10:25 AM (SkuXa)

195
Pretty smoggy in the background. They burned a lot of shit back then.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at February 23, 2018 10:20 AM (rdl6o)


All pollution is generated by greedy Republicans. At least, that's what I'm told by my betters.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2018 10:25 AM (BWL+E)

196 >>>>
There's a meme that the cop guarding the school was justified because he
only had a cop gun (presumably something like a Glock) while the
shooter had military gear. I'm skeptical.



We're talking engagement in close quarters where long-range accuracy
is not a factor. Glocks were designed for the military and shoot just
as fast. AR15s seem to have smaller rounds than your typical Glock
which are 9mms to 45s. Mag capacity for both are large.



Any experts want to weigh in

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2018 10:18 AM
.
.
.Doesn't matter what the Cop had. His job was to protect those kids, period.

That Coach managed to shield a bunch of kids with just his body, and the ROTC Cadet did the same and neither one had any weapons. The Cop is a coward who failed to do his sworn duty.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 10:25 AM (+Dllb)

197 There's a meme that the cop guarding the school was
justified because he only had a cop gun (presumably something like a
Glock) while the shooter had military gear.

We're talking engagement in close quarters where long-range accuracy is
not a factor. Glocks were designed for the military and shoot just as
fast. AR15s seem to have smaller rounds than your typical Glock which
are 9mms to 45s. Mag capacity for both are large.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2018 10:18 AM (n+6mJ)

Frankly, in that situation, I'd prefer a handgun. Basis: trained in and conducted Personal Security Detail ops in Baghdad for the UN and State Department.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 23, 2018 10:25 AM (uiwCw)

198 Is she one of the Minute Maid Orange Jews i hear so much about?
Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2018 10:14 AM (E3rQ4)


Ahhh, the tribe of Loompaland

Posted by: No One of Consequence at February 23, 2018 10:25 AM (+F0Wk)

199 MO Guv'nah was a Donk until 2015 then went G[r]OPe to run for office (I think).

He got perp-walked in public, which is nice.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2018 10:25 AM (bsdd3)

200 193 The reaction to this speech by the MFM will be fun to watch....



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:24 AM (8iiMU)

Who will be the most histrionic? Shep? Jim Acosta? Let's get a pool going!

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2018 10:25 AM (7HtZB)

201 Get This; Sheriff Quick-Withdraw Thinks He "Did a Good Job"

-
Maybe Sleepy Jeff could hire him and they could both recuse themselves.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 23, 2018 10:25 AM (+y/Ru)

202 .Doesn't matter what the Cop had. His job was to protect those kids, period.

That Coach managed to shield a bunch of kids with just his body, and the ROTC Cadet did the same and neither one had any weapons. The Cop is a coward who failed to do his sworn duty.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 10:25 AM (+Dllb)

Exactly. That meme is a deliberate red herring.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 10:26 AM (NWiLs)

203 "I believe these regulations had as much impact as teh tax cuts."


He gives a shout out to coal.

"They wanted to end it. Our miners have been mistreated."


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:26 AM (8iiMU)

204 The deputy was a coward and total dereliction of duty but it should have never come to that. He is down the list on the blame game where the shooter is on top of the list.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2018 10:26 AM (4lzWT)

205 "They wanted to end it. Our miners have been mistreated."


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:26 AM (8iiMU)

Maybe that was "minors" and was a swipe at Kevin Spacey?

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2018 10:27 AM (7HtZB)

206 Coal! Matter of national security.


Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:27 AM (r9UYA)

207 A kid here just had his tonsils taken out. His first name?

"Ace."

He'd be better off if they named him "Kaboom."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2018 10:27 AM (kqsXK)

208 Trump's not wearing his necklace of ears. Weak.

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:28 AM (Bdeb0)

209 Maybe that was "minors" and was a swipe at Kevin Spacey?

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2018 10:27 AM (7HtZB)

Tricky homonyms!


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:28 AM (8iiMU)

210 Good morning all.
Nice picture...reminds me of when I was stationed in Turkey and seeing people coming in to the market. Nicely done.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2018 10:28 AM (0tfLf)

211

Great speech so far.

His plea to get out and vote was great. It comes natural to him to reach the people.

His explanation of why the 2 yr elections into a presidency is usually good for the other side made common sense. People are complacent after working so hard to win the Presidency. A lot of work and energy went into electing the president, so people sit back a bit.

He is pushing that we cannot do that this round.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 10:28 AM (fceHP)

212 I like this picture. The lady is keeping busy between selling oranges, perhaps knitting up the raveled sleeve of care.

And she has nice cheekbones, too.

Posted by: bluebell at February 23, 2018 10:28 AM (kNasr)

213 Dear Lord. Have just been texting with women from my "Girls Group." My heart is broken.

One of our group is in her late fifties, and has been suffering from early onset dementia for a while now. Well, her husband has just said that it's so bad that we shouldn't bring dinner over next week to give him an evening out with the guys.

One of the group says we should all take turns staying with her during the day, which is kind of crazy. The husband is a doctor and can well afford care, and according to him, she doesn't know anyone half the time. My fear is she might wander off, burn down the house, or something. He needs to get full-time day care for her stat. The other girls in our group agree.

This is just so sad. She's always been such a vibrant, intelligent, wonderful person. I saw her at our oyster roast and she was smiling, etc., but you could tell she didn't have a clue where she was or what was going on.

Well, husband is picking me up from the hotel soon for another board meeting luncheon, then it's off to MiL's house for the rest of the weekend.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM (LiB9W)

214 "202 .Doesn't matter what the Cop had. His job was to protect those kids, period.

That Coach managed to shield a bunch of kids with just his body, and the ROTC Cadet did the same and neither one had any weapons. The Cop is a coward who failed to do his sworn duty.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 10:25 AM (+Dllb)

Exactly. That meme is a deliberate red herring.
Posted by: Insomniac "


That's pretty much all they got, anymore.
They'll never stop, though.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM (H0hPC)

215 The deputy was a coward and total dereliction of duty but it should have never come to that. He is down the list on the blame game where the shooter is on top of the list.

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His boss moved him up the list.

Posted by: SH at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM (sX1BW)

216 Trump is off the cuff? I'll have to catch a replay later on.

Posted by: Monk at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM (g4lFK)

217 Just to clarify, I don't believe that ARs are military gear. They just look like military gear.

Putting a spoiler on your car with a racing stripe doesn't change that it's still street legal and nothing you'd take to Daytona.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM (n+6mJ)

218 164 There's a meme that the cop guarding the school was justified because he only had a cop gun (presumably something like a Glock) while the shooter had military gear. I'm skeptical.

We're talking engagement in close quarters where long-range accuracy is not a factor. Glocks were designed for the military and shoot just as fast. AR15s seem to have smaller rounds than your typical Glock which are 9mms to 45s. Mag capacity for both are large.

Any experts want to weigh in
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2018 10:18 AM (n+6mJ)

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55grn 5.56 ammo (.223 cal) does its damage via stupid fast velocities (upwards of 3000 fps). 9mm is much slower but has a larger bullet (about 1200 fps and a 115 grn minimum). At the engagement ranges we're talking about, though, 9mm would be more than adequate to subdue the shooter, either directly or via making him take cover.

Posted by: Jackal at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM (lEOCi)

219
Cop who just stood there will get off eventually (civil suits) because of 1) sovereign immunity and 2) the holding that police have a general duty to keep public order, not a specific one to protect you.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2018 10:30 AM (BWL+E)

220 "Like some of these regulations I cut. They have such beautiful titles."

"We gave them their property back."



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:30 AM (8iiMU)

221 Cops get the pay, bennies aND retirement because they might not survive to get them. It really is part of the agreement. That is why they are so generous. Maybe not enough but it is the agreement

Posted by: Kindltot at February 23, 2018 10:30 AM (ZWEKT)

222 196
.Doesn't matter what the Cop had. His job was to protect those kids, period.

That
Coach managed to shield a bunch of kids with just his body, and the
ROTC Cadet did the same and neither one had any weapons. The Cop is a
coward who failed to do his sworn duty.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 23, 2018 10:25 AM (+Dllb)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS!!!
This doesn't even seem to be a case of someone "freezing up" in the heat of the moment. He called dispatch, organized a perimter "wtf does that mean in the sense of a school shooting", and cowered behind a concrete column.I pity him at some level. He will have to live with this for the rest of his life. Assuming of course he has the awareness to recognize he failed to do his job and cost people their lives.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2018 10:30 AM (jxbfJ)

223 "You don't mind if I go off script a little bit? BEcause it's boring."

LMAO


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:30 AM (8iiMU)

224 >>219
Cop who just stood there will get off eventually (civil suits) because of 1) sovereign immunity and 2) the holding that police have a general duty to keep public order, not a specific one to protect you.

3) Union

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:31 AM (r9UYA)

225 Is she one of the Minute Maid Orange Jews i hear so much about?

Is someone hasn't made a similar joke yet....who are you people?

Posted by: naturalfake at February 23, 2018 10:14 AM (E3rQ4)


========

I linked to the original form in @85.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 23, 2018 10:31 AM (/qEW2)

226 217 Just to clarify, I don't believe that ARs are military gear. They just look like military gear.

Putting a spoiler on your car with a racing stripe doesn't change that it's still street legal and nothing you'd take to Daytona.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM (n+6mJ)

==============

You wanna make an AR look non military? Throw wood furniture on it. Turns it from an eeeevil black rifle to some weird retro-futuristic 50's throwback IMO.

Posted by: Jackal at February 23, 2018 10:31 AM (lEOCi)

227 Jane,
A prayer to your friend...
And I will try to come up with my best MiL jokes this weekend.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2018 10:32 AM (0tfLf)

228 "Like some of these regulations I cut. They have such beautiful titles."

"We gave them their property back."


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:30 AM (8iiMU)


He is so fun to watch.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 10:32 AM (fceHP)

229 Jane,

A prayer to your friend...

And I will try to come up with my best MiL jokes this weekend.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2018 10:32 AM (0tfLf)


Thanks!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:32 AM (LiB9W)

230 A Glock 19 has a 10+1 capacity. 9mm is the caliber.

Cops typically carry two full mags in their belt, so one has 31 rounds total.

A pistol shooter can aim and fire around a corner, for instance at a doorway or hall intersect, a little more readily than one using a long gun like an AR.

Fire rate is semiauto, meaning as fast as one can pull the trigger. Glock thus same rate as AR.

There are plenty of YouTube videos showing trained gunners swapping mags on a 9mm semiauto and getting off 31 rounds in a ridiculously short period.

And remember, the killer wanted many victims. The cop should have been after one target.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 23, 2018 10:32 AM (5OEn4)

231 "We have seven years to go yet, folks. We have a long way to go."

Quick standing ovation.



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:33 AM (8iiMU)

232 {I]217 Just to clarify, I don't believe that ARs are military gear. They just look like military gear.

Putting a spoiler on your car with a racing stripe doesn't change that it's still street legal and nothing you'd take to Daytona.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM (n+6mJ)

Nope. AR57's have that black thing on them and the part at the end of the muzzle that makes the bullets aim better. Plus they have a multi-round magazine and can go semiautomated. So they are military, or at least military style.

BTW, that isn't art. Fruit =/= trees.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 10:33 AM (CPk08)

233 218
55grn 5.56 ammo (.223 cal) does its damage via
stupid fast velocities (upwards of 3000 fps). 9mm is much slower but
has a larger bullet (about 1200 fps and a 115 grn minimum). At the
engagement ranges we're talking about, though, 9mm would be more than
adequate to subdue the shooter, either directly or via making him take
cover.

Posted by: Jackal at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM (lEOCi)

That is the point right? Even to distract the shooter from killing other students. At that point he might even eat one taking himself out.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2018 10:33 AM (jxbfJ)

234 All pollution is generated by greedy Republicans. At least, that's what I'm told by my betters.

Well, at least there were Republicans at the time of the painting. Most likely it was of the Greek homo Republican variety!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at February 23, 2018 10:33 AM (rdl6o)

235 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM (LiB9W)

Oh, Jane, I'm so sorry.

St Dymphna, pray for her and her husband, that they might know peace and safety.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2018 10:33 AM (kqsXK)

236

Never misses the "fake news" hit. Love it.

And his diss on the Clinton's and Obama administration was glorious. But, I hope he's right. "Comes full circle."

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 10:33 AM (fceHP)

237 Crap. screwed up the tags so bad, even the barrel can't figure 'em out. LOL.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 10:33 AM (CPk08)

238 this mid term elections are so important..we cannot let the Dems take the house and senate. I'm slightly stressed about it already, tbh

Posted by: IC at February 23, 2018 10:33 AM (a0IVu)

239

lol, he's too funny

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 10:34 AM (fceHP)

240 Dear Crom: Please let Trump tell the youngsters what is "best in life." Thank you, O Great One.

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:34 AM (Bdeb0)

241 Putting a spoiler on your car with a racing stripe doesn't change that it's still street legal and nothing you'd take to Daytona.

--------------

You have to add a loud exhaust too. That makes you really cool.

Posted by: SH at February 23, 2018 10:34 AM (sX1BW)

242 Everyone is pissed at the school cop, as am I, which is understandable.

But everyone is forgetting that he only did what the responding cops have done in nearly every school shooting since Columbine: wait outside for reinforcements (officer safety!!!!!!) while kids are mown down inside.

I can't remember the last school shooting where the perp didn't kill himself. Lanza did. Harris and Klebold did. The VT shooter did.

There is a twitter thread up from a guy describing how Broward County intentionally looked askance at student crime and has for years, including ignoring any tips on potential criminals that might have come in.

There are many layers of guilt in this shooting. Which explains the extreme scape-goating that is going on.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2018 10:34 AM (bsdd3)

243 Any experts want to weigh in

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2018 10:18 AM (n+6mJ)


If you're that deputy you have to go in there and try to save those kids.

I'm not an expert and don't consider myself any kind of hero. I'd probably be scared stiff in that situation too.

But you gotta go in there and try to save those kids. That's true in any case but it's especially true if that's the job you've trained for, been paid for and sworn to do.

Posted by: Agent Cooper at February 23, 2018 10:34 AM (oyCqX)

244 Glock 19 has a 10+1 capacity
-------

Not in a free state it doesn't.

Posted by: Rich Evans at February 23, 2018 10:34 AM (SkuXa)

245 <<230 A Glock 19 has a 10+1 capacity. 9mm is the caliber.

G19 has 15 rounds.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:34 AM (r9UYA)

246 About Hilary:

"What does the keep going back to California? Crazy."

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:34 AM (8iiMU)

247 the=she


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:34 AM (8iiMU)

248 217 Just to clarify, I don't believe that ARs are military gear. They just look like military gear.

Putting a spoiler on your car with a racing stripe doesn't change that it's still street legal and nothing you'd take to Daytona.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM (n+6mJ)

That's the analogy I've been using.

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2018 10:35 AM (7HtZB)

249 230 A Glock 19 has a 10+1 capacity. 9mm is the caliber.

15+1

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 10:35 AM (NWiLs)

250 With standard mag. It will accept many efferent sized mags.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:35 AM (r9UYA)

251 Thank you, MPPP. Her parents *both* died of early onset dementia. Her husband is a saint. Totally devoted to her. All women should be so lucky if they were in her situation.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:35 AM (LiB9W)

252 181 ... Steve,

Thanks for the reminder about Handel's birthday. I'm going to play some of his works performed on period-correct instruments. The sound of the old style instruments is more genuine and much more pleasing. I do the same with Bach quartets and chamber music. It turns the exquisite into heavenly.

Posted by: JTB at February 23, 2018 10:35 AM (V+03K)

253 233 218
55grn 5.56 ammo (.223 cal) does its damage via
stupid fast velocities (upwards of 3000 fps). 9mm is much slower but
has a larger bullet (about 1200 fps and a 115 grn minimum). At the
engagement ranges we're talking about, though, 9mm would be more than
adequate to subdue the shooter, either directly or via making him take
cover.

Posted by: Jackal at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM (lEOCi)

That is the point right? Even to distract the shooter from killing other students. At that point he might even eat one taking himself out.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2018 10:33 AM (jxbfJ)

================

Yeah, the whole "cop gun" excuse is utter weaksauce.

Posted by: Jackal at February 23, 2018 10:36 AM (lEOCi)

254 This painting really makes me think.

It makes me think: Did that poor old lady stand there all day in the fog with those oranges just so this clown could paint her?

Posted by: Agent Cooper at February 23, 2018 10:36 AM (oyCqX)

255 I'm loving Trump. He really looks like he enjoys himself.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:36 AM (LiB9W)

256 But everyone is forgetting that he only did what the responding cops have done in nearly every school shooting since Columbine: wait outside for reinforcements (officer safety!!!!!!) while kids are mown down inside.

-------------

Its a problem. Best solution - we arm ourselves.

Posted by: SH at February 23, 2018 10:36 AM (sX1BW)

257 252 181 ... Steve,

Thanks for the reminder about Handel's birthday. I'm going to play some of his works performed on period-correct instruments. The sound of the old style instruments is more genuine and much more pleasing. I do the same with Bach quartets and chamber music. It turns the exquisite into heavenly.
Posted by: JTB at February 23, 2018 10:35 AM (V+03K)


Turns out all of Handel's works can be clucked by chickens. Musicological fact.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 10:36 AM (CPk08)

258 Anybody remember the Saturday Night Live parody, "Jewess Jeans"? With Gilda Radner and Larraine Newman as stereotypical 1970s JAPs?
=======

Hilarious!
Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 23, 2018 10:11 AM (vg8iE)

I do, thanks for the memory jog. That was back when SNL was extremely funny, much watched TV. Satire always had a bit of truth to it, which is why it was funny and understandable by most people. Today it is totally unpermitted. You can google SNL jewess jeans and youtube will have clips. Remember, they were guaranteed to ride up!

Posted by: Jen the original at February 23, 2018 10:36 AM (3WpEh)

259

He also trashed Collins without saying her name. I believe it was her, who walked in at 3 in the morning he said, who was suppose to support obamacare repeal, but changed vote. It wasn't Rand Paul, right? Susan Collins?

He said he wouldn't name names.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 10:37 AM (fceHP)

260 "If a country says 'Death to America' while I'm signing an agreement, I'm gonna say, 'Whats going on?!?' "

Slamming Kerry:

"He must be the worst negotiator ever."

Then he just slammed Obama, the IRan deal, etc.



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:37 AM (8iiMU)

261 >>You have to add a loud exhaust too. That makes you really cool. Posted by: SH at February 23, 2018 10:34 AM (sX1BW)

And a really cool personalized license plate. Sorry, in VA, "BLUBYU" is taken.

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:37 AM (Bdeb0)

262 Yeah, the whole "cop gun" excuse is utter weaksauce.
Posted by: Jackal at February 23, 2018 10:36 AM (lEOCi)

If only he'd had a phased plasma rifle with a 40 watt range. Then he could've cowered outside with a bigger gun.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 10:37 AM (NWiLs)

263 You know what's refreshing? No more "Let me be clear" and "This is not who we are."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:37 AM (LiB9W)

264 Regarding the Coward from Broward: If you think you're undergunned or unable to enter an active shooter situation, why are you even there? Why are you taking money to sit there every day eating donuts when you know you're going to run away at the first sign of some serious shit going down?

Might as well have put a stuffed dummy in the hallway with a plastic gun strapped to his side. It would have been cheaper and done the same amount of good.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 10:38 AM (k1TUh)

265 And a really cool personalized license plate. Sorry, in VA, "BLUBYU" is taken.
Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:37 AM (Bdeb0)

They're going back someday, come what may?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 10:38 AM (NWiLs)

266 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM

She sounds like she should already be under 24 hour guidance. With dementia sometimes it's a fairly slow progression, sometimes extremely fast. By fast I mean months. She needs a baseline assessment right now.

Posted by: Acme Explosives at February 23, 2018 10:38 AM (2FqvZ)

267 "He must be the worst negotiator ever."
========

No he's not. He gave the Iranians just what they wanted. There was no "negotiation" whatsoever.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 23, 2018 10:38 AM (vg8iE)

268 Sorry, in VA, "BLUBYU" is taken.

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:37 AM (Bdeb0)


Lot of Mormons in VA?

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 23, 2018 10:38 AM (uiwCw)

269 63
You know what's refreshing? No more "Let me be clear" and "This is not who we are."


Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:37 AM (LiB9W)
And those 'I am going to gaze pensively into the future at angle' nonsense.

Posted by: IC at February 23, 2018 10:38 AM (a0IVu)

270 i think this cop was untrained OR to guard the perimeter and be witness/mop up crew.


Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:38 AM (Z8j2x)

271 Yeah, the whole "cop gun" excuse is utter weaksauce.
Posted by: Jackal at February 23, 2018 10:36 AM (lEOCi)

Actually.... embrace that argument...

If they believe that the Cop could not defend unless he was properly armed, with an AR...

Then how can they say WE don't need AR's to defend ourselves?

(I know its a silly argument from the outset... but... may as well use their own stupidity if they are going to trot it out in front of us!)

Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2018 10:38 AM (NgKpN)

272 About moving the embassy to Jerusalem:

"I said I have to do it. It's the right thing to do."




Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:38 AM (8iiMU)

273 >>"This is not who we are."

Hey! That's my line.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at February 23, 2018 10:39 AM (r9UYA)

274 Thanks for the reminder about Handel's birthday. I'm going to play some of his works performed on period-correct instruments. The sound of the old style instruments is more genuine and much more pleasing. I do the same with Bach quartets and chamber music. It turns the exquisite into heavenly.
Posted by: JTB at February 23, 2018 10:35 AM (V+03K)

I won a free ticket to the Philadelphia Chamber Orchestra this Sunday. They gave away free tickets to the first 9 people who posed "Fly Eagles Fly" on their facebook page. I was in that very narrow section of the Venn diagram where fb users, Eagles fans & people who listen to Baroque music intersect.

Posted by: josephistan at February 23, 2018 10:39 AM (7HtZB)

275 I would die in a swoon if I'd hear these words:

"Ladies and gentlemen, as I speak, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Susan Rice, James Comey, and others are being arrested."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:39 AM (LiB9W)

276 >>Might as well have put a stuffed dummy in the hallway with a plastic gun strapped to his side. It would have been cheaper and done the same amount of good. Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 10:38 AM (k1TUh)

Armed transgender pre-op hall monitors. To peg the weird meter.

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:39 AM (Bdeb0)

277 271 Yeah, the whole "cop gun" excuse is utter weaksauce.
Posted by: Jackal at February 23, 2018 10:36 AM (lEOCi)

Actually.... embrace that argument...

If they believe that the Cop could not defend unless he was properly armed, with an AR...

Then how can they say WE don't need AR's to defend ourselves?

(I know its a silly argument from the outset... but... may as well use their own stupidity if they are going to trot it out in front of us!)
Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2018 10:38 AM (NgKpN)


==================

Use a little insane troll logic, huh? I like it.

Posted by: Jackal at February 23, 2018 10:39 AM (lEOCi)

278 256 But everyone is forgetting that he only did what the responding cops have done in nearly every school shooting since Columbine: wait outside for reinforcements (officer safety!!!!!!) while kids are mown down inside.

Pulse nightclub shooting went down the same way.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 10:40 AM (NWiLs)

279 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:39 AM (LiB9W)

That would be call for a party.

I'd even invite all my lib friends.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 23, 2018 10:40 AM (tKW45)

280 256
Its a problem. Best solution - we arm ourselves.

Posted by: SH at February 23, 2018 10:36 AM (sX1BW)

I hope it is becoming obvious to even to the obtuse -- the government and its officials CAN NOT protect you. They aren't legally (constitutionally) required to do so. And the more layers of bureaucracy there are, the more inept they are.We need to realize that each of us is responsible for our safety, and of those we love. And in cases where we entrust our loved ones (children) to the care of others, I think it is time we go in front of our School Boards and ask hard questions, and demand answers.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2018 10:40 AM (jxbfJ)

281 I don't think we've ever had a President who plays a crowd like Trump. He's having a great time doing it, too.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 10:40 AM (398bZ)

282 Turns out all of Handel's works can be clucked by chickens. Musicological fact.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 10:36 AM (CPk0


An English conductor (it might have been Sir Thomas Beecham) once said that listening to Vivaldi was like working in a sewing machine factory.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2018 10:40 AM (kqsXK)

283 'Rebuilding our nation.'

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:41 AM (r9UYA)

284 "Ladies and gentlemen, as I speak, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Susan Rice, James Comey, and others are being arrested."

I would die and my corpse would be marveled at like John Dillinger

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2018 10:41 AM (LiyEm)

285 208 Trump's not wearing his necklace of ears. Weak.
Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:28 AM (Bdeb0)

Yeah, but the podium is constructed using the thighbones of his enemies so I'm cutting him a break.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 23, 2018 10:41 AM (RD7QR)

286 She sounds like she should already be under 24 hour
guidance. With dementia sometimes it's a fairly slow progression,
sometimes extremely fast. By fast I mean months. She needs a baseline
assessment right now.

Posted by: Acme Explosives at February 23, 2018 10:38 AM (2FqvZ)


Her husband is a doc, but yeah. He says it's progressing rapidly. He's heartbroken. She may well need to be in a facility if it continues to worsen this quickly. But he needs to have someone with her during the day, every day. A maid coming in three days a week doesn't cut it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:41 AM (LiB9W)

287 And a really cool personalized license plate. Sorry, in VA, "BLUBYU" is taken.

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:37 AM (Bdeb0)


I always wanted GEN11, myself.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2018 10:42 AM (kqsXK)

288 Build the wall!

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 10:42 AM (398bZ)

289 "Don't worry, you're getting the wall."

"I hear these characters in the back saying the wall is just a campaign thing. I said 'Are you --- (I KNOW he wanted to say 'fucking kidding me', but he stopped)"

Pretty damned funny.



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 23, 2018 10:43 AM (8iiMU)

290 There are many layers of guilt in this shooting. Which explains the extreme scape-goating that is going on.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2018 10:34 AM (bsdd3)

Yep... the ones who failed us, failed those children, are the ones screaming loudest for gun control...

Anything so they do not have to acknowledge their own guilt.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2018 10:43 AM (NgKpN)

291 One of the group says we should all take turns staying with her during the day, which is kind of crazy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:29 AM

Yep, that's no good. If this was a short term problem that would heal in a few weeks, maybe, but it isn't. Everyone knows what it is, and it requires professional care now. No good trying to avoid that situation by leaning on friends who have their own lives to live, and burdens to carry.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 10:43 AM (k1TUh)

292 Build the wall!

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 10:42 AM (398bZ)


Mow the grass! Or cactus or whatever.


*drools*

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at February 23, 2018 10:43 AM (LiB9W)

293 >>284 "Ladies and gentlemen, as I speak, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Susan Rice, James Comey, and others are being arrested."

Edited to read: "Ladies and gentlemen, as I speak, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Susan Rice, James Comey, and others are being digested."

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:43 AM (Bdeb0)

294 >>285 208 Trump's not wearing his necklace of ears. Weak.
Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:28 AM (Bdeb0)

Yeah, but the podium is constructed using the thighbones of his enemies so I'm cutting him a break.

His cufflinks? Teeth of his enemies.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:44 AM (r9UYA)

295 btw

Report: McCain Associate Invokes Fifth Amendment to Avoid Testifying on Dossier

from this morning.

Sarah Carter said she believes he pleaded the fifth to not have to answer ONE question: Was he the one that leaked the dossier?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 10:44 AM (fceHP)

296 i think the doctor asking for friends to help her in isn't a bad thing. perhaps he wants to know people left with his lover, life companion care about her, not paid reps .

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:44 AM (Z8j2x)

297 294 >>285 208 Trump's not wearing his necklace of ears. Weak.
Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:28 AM (Bdeb0)

Yeah, but the podium is constructed using the thighbones of his enemies so I'm cutting him a break.

His cufflinks? Teeth of his enemies.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:44 AM (r9UYA)

20 stories high, made of radiation.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 10:44 AM (NWiLs)

298 >>>>284 "Ladies and gentlemen, as I speak, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Susan Rice, James Comey, and others are being arrested."

and are now being transported to GTMO for their military tribunals.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:44 AM (r9UYA)

299 subdue the shooter, either directly or via making him take
cover.

Posted by: Jackal

Not planning to go all Mall Ninja on yaz here, but. You can back down a screwy-arse shooter with four or so totally unarmed stalkers, moving around a lot and holding their hands funny. Seen it done. Thing of beauty.
"Give him something to think about." Does not work against disciplined assailants, but, that's not our problem here, is it.

Given a few more minutes, the JROTC would have had his ass. Unarmed.
And they still did damned well, despite that. Fine officers, and,
PETER WANG.

Their actions guarantee a JROTC for the next 500 years.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 10:45 AM (H5rtT)

300 i know it would be a huge task. does she'they have thirty friends, each taking a day a mth?

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:45 AM (Z8j2x)

301
End the Department of Education in toto. Use savings toward hardening schools against attacks. Ending DepEd should also cut loose superfluous administrators locally who are only there because of DepEd diktats. Winning!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2018 10:46 AM (pNxlR)

302 Yep, that's no good. If this was a short term problem that would heal in a few weeks, maybe, but it isn't.
=============================


This is the hardest realization to arrive at, or at least it was for me. You think of disease as something that is endured and then gets better. Or maybe, at worst, it stabilizes for awhile. Dementia gets worse every day (or at least it did for my FIL), and I was always a step behind.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, concerned citizen at February 23, 2018 10:46 AM (ylUqT)

303 FDNY 9/11/01
Broward County Sheriff Dept 2/14/18

Compare and contrast.

Posted by: BluesFish at February 23, 2018 10:46 AM (V4Wjo)

304 Am I the only one that thinks that, given the opportunity and just for fucky-fucky fun, Bill Clinton would choose to testify, enthusiastically and comprehensively, against his wife? I mean, would that not be the tits?

Please, Crom, let there be such a world, and let me live in it, if only briefly.

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:46 AM (Bdeb0)

305
No, I am Orange Julia. You are thinking of my brother, Julius.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2018 10:47 AM (pNxlR)

306

I'm not sure if this was covered in this morning's lineup, but this piece at The Washington Free Beacon is really worth a read.

American Populism: A User's Guide
Column: Donald Trump, Jeffrey Bell, and the future of Reaganism


It talks in depth of how Trump won, and how he can win again. It's a long piece, but really worth reading.

By Matthew Continetti

http://freebeacon.com/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 10:48 AM (fceHP)

307 i know it would be a huge task. does she'they have thirty friends, each taking a day a mth?

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:45 AM (Z8j2x)


She doesn't know who we are anymore. And most of the girls are still working, and one is dealing with her mother in hospice. There are about six in our group. I've offered to bring meals to them, but as far as staying all day with someone who believes I'm a stranger now.....don't see how that could possibly work.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:48 AM (LiB9W)

308 Bill wouldn't, why would he?

she knows as much about him as he Might about her.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:48 AM (Z8j2x)

309 Where's the Yippi Kai Yay MF attitude in the school's SRO?

SMH

Posted by: John McClane at February 23, 2018 10:48 AM (QLvwG)

310 294 >>285 208 Trump's not wearing his necklace of ears. Weak.
Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:28 AM (Bdeb0)

Yeah, but the podium is constructed using the thighbones of his enemies so I'm cutting him a break.

His cufflinks? Teeth of his enemies.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:44 AM (r9UYA)

Yes, and I heard that Melania prepared his Special Bath this morning....

Seems they had the Secret Service and others collect the tears of the Women at the last Pussy Hat march, and the Sceam thing...

So he could bathe in the Tears from the Lamentations of the Vomen...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2018 10:48 AM (NgKpN)

311 That deputy was just a glorified mall cop and was probably instructed "not to get involved", but merely appear on the scene in the hope that his presence would be a deterrent.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2018 10:49 AM (7uYFy)

312 Jane, what an ordeal for everyone.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:49 AM (Z8j2x)

313 Report: McCain Associate Invokes Fifth Amendment to Avoid Testifying on Dossier
from this morning.
Sarah Carter said she believes he pleaded the fifth to not have to answer ONE question: Was he the one that leaked the dossier?

The great irony will always be, that by leaking the dossier, he blew the whole shit-show wide open. It could have worked as long as they kept it secret, known only by a little cabal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 10:49 AM (k1TUh)

314
"Men, I am not ordering you to attack. I am ordering you to die." - Kemal Ataturk

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2018 10:49 AM (BWL+E)

315 So if you're a Q follower tongues are wagging all over Twitter as Trump used the same term for McCain in his speech as the Q poster references:

Basically "I won't use his name"


Posted by: H Badger at February 23, 2018 10:49 AM (n/0Nw)

316 Sarah Carter said she believes he pleaded the fifth to not have to answer ONE question: Was he the one that leaked the dossier?
------------------------------------------


Obviously he is simply trying to avoid embarrassment, both for himself and his puppet-master. There isn't any legal liability in leaking a fictional document to MSM, so the 5th wouldn't apply. He's buying time, desperately.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, concerned citizen at February 23, 2018 10:49 AM (ylUqT)

317 >>308 Bill wouldn't, why would he? Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:48 AM (Z8j2x)

For the shock factor. To increase the schadenboner. To please Zod. I don't know, just wishcasting here.

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:49 AM (Bdeb0)

318 Sarah Carter said she believes he pleaded the fifth to not have to answer ONE question: Was he the one that leaked the dossier?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 10:44 AM (fceHP)

Don't know if he was the one that leaked it but he was sent by McCain to England to talk to Steele about it.

Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2018 10:50 AM (Enq6K)

319
Jane, what an ordeal for everyone.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:49 AM (Z8j2x)

I really feel for her two sons, who are younger than mine. This is killing them.

Anyhow, my husband should be back any second. Off to another rubber chicken luncheon, and then my lib MiL's for the rest of the weekend.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:50 AM (LiB9W)

320 Aren't Levis Jewish Jeans?

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2018 10:50 AM (2LelM)

321 the must have no family.

we(all of our family) took care of my saba for a decade, but he was lucid just failing.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:51 AM (Z8j2x)

322 That guard was tested and he failed.In his heart he knows it whatever excuse he may make.He will take his failure to the grave.

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2018 10:51 AM (LiyEm)

323 Aren't Levis Jewish Jeans?
Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2018 10:50 AM (2LelM)

That would be Levon's Jeans.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2018 10:51 AM (7uYFy)

324 FDNY 9/11/01
Broward County Sheriff Dept 2/14/18

Compare and contrast.
Posted by: BluesFish at February 23, 2018 10:46 AM (V4Wjo)

The NYPD also ran toward the towers and not away.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2018 10:51 AM (4lzWT)

325 An English conductor (it might have been Sir Thomas Beecham) once said
that listening to Vivaldi was like working in a sewing machine factory.


Hmm. One might have expected more respect from a syphilitic, drug-dealing old cock-hound like Beecham for a guy who had unlimited access to the most beautiful young women in Italy.

I would be sorely (ooh!) tempted to have a word with Beecham about how he was conducting Vivaldi. Because now that Vivaldi is often played as basically rock and roll, I think we can see what the problem was.

There are those who oppose this of course. I am not a Mozart fan because Mozartians in my youth were old queens, drier than a popcorn fart, who looked for a way to make it Calmer. And "Amadeus" spoiled all that.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 10:52 AM (H5rtT)

326 Jane, prayers for them all to persevere.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:52 AM (Z8j2x)

327 I'm not an expert and don't consider myself any kind of hero. I'd probably be scared stiff in that situation too.


The thing is, nobody knows what he'll do until it happens. You want to think you'll be brave but you don't know. Once in my life I ran into danger to save someone. It made me feel good about myself, that I acted the way I'd hope I'd act. But who knows, another time I might not.

And that's what's wrong with the "oh you're going to count on the janitor and the lunch lady to do what the trained cop couldn't do" argument. The janitor and the lunch lady might not step up, but they might.

If there are eight armed people on campus, seven might shy away from engagement. One cop did. He was only one cop. He was a thirty plus year veteran on a sleepy assignment. He probably didn't know in his heart that he was a coward until he found out.

If eight people are armed on the campus there is at least the chance that one will stand up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2018 10:52 AM (fuK7c)

328 >>322 That guard was tested and he failed.In his heart he knows it whatever excuse he may make.He will take his failure to the grave.
Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2018 10:51 AM (LiyEm)

Maybe he believes in the power of redemption kinda thing.

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:53 AM (Bdeb0)

329 "There are about six in our group. I've offered to bring meals to them, but as far as staying all day with someone who believes I'm a stranger now.....don't see how that could possibly work."

And just think about what would happen if one of the friends are there, and something medically or physically dangerous happens, and they don't have the resources to cope with it. That's why this is at the stage where professional help is needed.

A full time nurse at the house is needed, or possibly an assisted living situation, with 24 hour nursing care available. It is not a good solution, but better then leaving her on her own during the day.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 10:53 AM (k1TUh)

330 70
Inspired by the poor districts of Warsaw. Thought it might have been in 19th-century Galicia, the West Virginia of Europe.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2018 09:45 AM (BWL+E

Hadrian, nice to see someone else knows about Galicia. My mother in law's side came over and settled in Pennsylvania. Brought their mining skills with them.
First time I've heard it referenced as the WV of Eastern Europe. Very apt.

Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2018 10:53 AM (QjpM/)

331 Given a few more minutes, the JROTC would have had his ass. Unarmed.
And they still did damned well, despite that. Fine officers, and,
PETER WANG.

Their actions guarantee a JROTC for the next 500 years.


Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 10:45 AM (H5rtT)

In a society in desperate need to true heroes -- the JROTC students, Peter Wang, the asst. coach -- should be held up in high honor. Tragic that we must honor Peter Wang posthumously.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (jxbfJ)

332 i know it would be a huge task. does she'they have thirty friends, each taking a day a mth?

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:45 AM (Z8j2x)

She doesn't know who we are anymore. And most of the girls are still working, and one is dealing with her mother in hospice. There are about six in our group. I've offered to bring meals to them, but as far as staying all day with someone who believes I'm a stranger now.....don't see how that could possibly work.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:48 AM (LiB9W)

Jane, I've got more experience with this type of thing than I wish I had. Putting her in a memory facility is the best thing for her mentally and physically and is best for everyone else involved with her. No single person can give an advanced Alzheimer's patient 24 hour care. It's impossible. Being alone with a person who is advanced and still mobile is a nightmare. They can do things such as walk out the door, etc. while you go to the restroom, they can become combative , etc. Her husband is likely getting no sleep at night. Having her moved into a facility will allow all of you to visit her with fresh minds and bodies and allow her husband to begin to retrieve his life and his own health. Do not go along with this plan to stave off the inevitable which may result is serious consequences for those involved.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (3WpEh)

333 The SRO coward should be an outcast in society. A pariah. Mocked as a coward wherever he goes.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (r9UYA)

334 The NYPD also ran toward the towers and not away.

Port Authority cops too.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (O5Q3r)

335 That deputy is being ripped a new asshole by Trump.
This guy has to live with what he didn't do. I hope he doesn't take his life.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (7uYFy)

336 So at the dinner table I tell my son that he has a live shooter event at school to never use the hallways. Get out via a window or blockade yourself in using every stick of furniture. This, of course, led to my son and wife reciting CNN talking points about guns. CNN needs to die.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (2LelM)

337 bander, i imagine training is the key in that situation.

you can be a cop and never face getting shot at, i would think you must be trained to follow a planned routine to cope.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (Z8j2x)

338 328 >>322 That guard was tested and he failed.In his heart he knows it whatever excuse he may make.He will take his failure to the grave.
Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2018 10:51 AM (LiyEm)

Maybe he believes in the power of redemption kinda thing.
Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:53 AM (Bdeb0)

Couple of Tony Robbins seminars and he'll be right as rain.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (NWiLs)

339 Trump says Peterson "was not a credit to LE."

Good.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (398bZ)

340 The painting has an interesting provenance, according to my search engine. The Nazis stole the painting and the Polish museum that owned it had to actually buy it back from its eventual German "owner" when he tried to auction it six years ago. I guess the idea of just storming the auction with a special ops group wouldn't have been well-received, even if justified.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, concerned citizen at February 23, 2018 10:55 AM (ylUqT)

341 Trump says Peterson "was not a credit to LE."

Good.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (398bZ)

Trump will be blamed for driving him to suicide.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2018 10:55 AM (7uYFy)

342 Jen, yeah i can see that, she doesn't recognise her companions.

what a horrible way to end life.

i'd rather be dead than have that happen to me.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:55 AM (Z8j2x)

343 274 ... " I was in that very narrow section of the Venn diagram where fb users, Eagles fans & people who listen to Baroque music intersect."

Congrats on the free ticket. Talk about being part of an exclusive group!

Posted by: JTB at February 23, 2018 10:55 AM (V+03K)

344 If there are eight armed people on campus, seven might shy away from engagement. One cop did. He was only one cop. He was a thirty plus year veteran on a sleepy assignment. He probably didn't know in his heart that he was a coward until he found out.

If eight people are armed on the campus there is at least the chance that one will stand up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2018 10:52 AM (fuK7c)

I'm not trying to excuse his actions but that school is YUGE. Where was the guard in relation to the shooter? Did he know where the shooter was and still hid?

Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2018 10:56 AM (Enq6K)

345 Liberal heads exploding right now......

Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2018 10:56 AM (7uYFy)

346 I dont wish ill on Peterson, but don't take a job where you are supposed to protect kids if you do not intend to do so.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at February 23, 2018 10:56 AM (wGbBR)

347 Posted by: Jen the original at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (3WpEh)



Thanks for your input. I totally agree. Her husband is mentally and physically exhausted. One of our girlfriends is a doc, and she agrees with what you said as well.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:56 AM (LiB9W)

348 This BCSO Sheriff's Deputy is a disappointment, to say the least.

Posted by: Gary Cooper, High Noon at February 23, 2018 10:56 AM (QLvwG)

349 339 Trump says Peterson "was not a credit to LE."

Good.
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Wow, a pubbie shaming the shame people. This is gonna be great!

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2018 10:56 AM (2LelM)

350 That deputy was just a glorified mall cop and was probably instructed "not to get involved", but merely appear on the scene in the hope that his presence would be a deterrent.
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I have to disagree. He was a sworn Sheriff's deputy, not just a mall cop. Mall cops don't carry guns. School districts have "police departments" now. What's the point if they don't act like police. They should be call deterrent guards or something if they can't act, not deputies or officers. He is a coward, plain and simple. He should be stripped of his pension for gross dereliction of duties at the very least.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2018 10:56 AM (kufk0)

351 Obviously he is simply trying to avoid embarrassment, both for himself and his puppet-master. There isn't any legal liability in leaking a fictional document to MSM, so the 5th wouldn't apply. He's buying time, desperately.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, concerned citizen at February 23, 2018 10:49 AM (ylUqT)


One of the lawyers on Fox, on Hannity last night said that he first said he "knew the sources" but he refused to tell them who. So then he was subpoena'd he pleaded the fifth, which the lawyer said was against the law for him to do. I wasn't totally clear why, I don't remember what he said exactly.

The lawyer also said he may have been covering himself with the fifth because he originally lied, too.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 10:56 AM (fceHP)

352 I'm not concerned about Peterson's well-being in the least.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 10:56 AM (398bZ)

353 >>335 That deputy is being ripped a new asshole by Trump. This guy has to live with what he didn't do. I hope he doesn't take his life. Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (7uYFy)

Only Scientology can save him now.

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:56 AM (Bdeb0)

354 Trump will be blamed for driving him to suicide.
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If so I will send Trump $100 bucks for his re-election. Swearsies.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2018 10:57 AM (2LelM)

355 This painting really makes me think.

It makes me think: Did that poor old lady stand there all day in the fog with those oranges just so this clown could paint her?


Posted by: Agent Cooper at February 23, 2018 10:36 AM


Naaa...she's waiting for Griffin from CNN to show up on her lawn and tell her the JROTC kid is a liar. See that one white orange...its really a rotten egg.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2018 10:57 AM (0tfLf)

356 He wasn't a security guard he was a security MONITOR....(a little levity)

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2018 10:57 AM (LiyEm)

357 12,
" Germans beat Canada in hockey 4-3. That's gonna sting."


But, happy dance, 'cause we're all winners.

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/966806946803105792

Posted by: geoffb at February 23, 2018 10:58 AM (zOpu5)

358 >>They should be call deterrent guards or something if they can't act,

Security Monitor.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:58 AM (r9UYA)

359 That guard was tested and he failed.In his heart he knows it whatever excuse he may make.He will take his failure to the grave.

Posted by: steevy at February 23, 2018 10:51 AM (LiyEm)



Maybe he believes in the power of redemption kinda thing.

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:53 AM (Bdeb0)



Couple of Tony Robbins seminars and he'll be right as rain.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (NWiLs)

After he does the barefoot hot coal walk, yes.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 23, 2018 10:58 AM (QLvwG)

360 It's okay. You don't look jewess.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2018 10:58 AM (oVJmc)

361 Trump: Moving the Overton window on school security.

Posted by: WisRich at February 23, 2018 10:58 AM (G0vdT)

362 >>358 >>They should be call deterrent guards or something if they can't act,
>>Security Monitor.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:58 AM (r9UYA)

"Bob."

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 10:58 AM (Bdeb0)

363 301


End the Department of Education in toto. Use savings toward
hardening schools against attacks. Ending DepEd should also cut loose
superfluous administrators locally who are only there because of DepEd
diktats. Winning!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2018 10:46 AM (pNxlR)

This. Its a giant sucking sound for money and they ruin education. The curriculum is nothing more than leftist propaganda.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 10:59 AM (70cRb)

364 i'm trying not to comment on peterson, i imagine he is already in hell by his own conduct.

the overall Police sheriff- counties actions however speak Volumes, They all Knew this Kid had issues, needed something More than to be shuffled off continously escalating in his illness.
39 calls for help!

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 10:59 AM (Z8j2x)

365 http://bit.ly/2ENsCWo
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STUDY: Drinking alcohol may be better than exercise for living past 90
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This ought to make the Horde's weekend !

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 23, 2018 10:59 AM (y3aQB)

366 I'm off. Will whine at ya'll this evening from lib MiL's house.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 23, 2018 10:59 AM (LiB9W)

367 Peterson now must embrace his gay inner feelings.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 10:59 AM (r9UYA)

368 "The thing is, nobody knows what he'll do until it happens. You want to think you'll be brave but you don't know. Once in my life I ran into danger to save someone. It made me feel good about myself, that I acted the way I'd hope I'd act. But who knows, another time I might not."

And I remember my Uncle the war vet telling me that in actual combat, often its the people you think who are least likely who do the best, and the people who you think are most likely to be brave who fall apart. You just never know til it happens.

I was never shot it, but in my oilfield career I was in some very dangerous situations from time to time. (H2S blowout with an airmask one, one breath of outside air and you drop dead) I found, to my surprise, that being in danger made me much calmer emotionally and made every decision very clear. Don't know why, just happens. On the other hand, some of the guys I worked with, especially if they were given some authority, would just start to stammer uncontrollably and freeze completely, no matter how good they had looked when the pressure was off. You just never know til you're there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 10:59 AM (k1TUh)

369 311 That deputy was just a glorified mall cop and was probably instructed "not to get involved", but merely appear on the scene in the hope that his presence would be a deterrent.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2018 10:49 AM (7uYFy)
_____________________

No, he was a political animal, and he'd been rewarded with the SRO (student resource officer) gig at the school because he'd shown his willingness to play along with Broward County Sheriff's Office policy of hiding student crime statistics (by ignoring student crimes, hiding and/or destroying evidence of student crimes, and not making student arrests).

The SRO was not at the school to prevent crime, he was at the school to hide and cover-up student crimes.

Read this, and the linked documents, and you'll get it:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/966854507744374784.html

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 23, 2018 10:59 AM (fqUgw)

370
The sniper is in that spire on the left.



The signal:

One if knits by hand
Two if by vitamin C

Posted by: Zombie Henry Wadsworth Longfellow at February 23, 2018 10:59 AM (EzdLW)

371 Not trained.
Never been in that situation, but I'm pretty sure I'd say 'fuck it, I'm going in.'

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 23, 2018 11:00 AM (xBSm0)

372 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 10:56 AM (fceHP)
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So you're saying he resembles a hooked fish flopping around the dock then?

Good.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, concerned citizen at February 23, 2018 11:00 AM (ylUqT)

373 361 Trump: Moving the Overton window on school security.
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Yep. Stating you want to kill the dickweeds seems to appeal to Mom and Dad. Trump at 50% approval.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2018 11:00 AM (2LelM)

374

Trump goes to topics, and I'm so surprised.

He was just talking about security on military bases. Mentioned the locking up of guns...

wow

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 11:00 AM (fceHP)

375 Trump will be blamed for driving him to suicide.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2018 10:55 AM (7uYFy)


Hear me now and believe me later: CNN will have chattering heads tonight crying about Teh Donald using the power of the presidency to harass ordinary citizens and how it creates a climate of fear.

Time for tea.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 23, 2018 11:00 AM (kqsXK)

376 363

This. Its a giant sucking sound for money and they ruin education. The curriculum is nothing more than leftist propaganda.


Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 10:59 AM (70cRb)

Funny that the DOE offices have armed guards.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2018 11:00 AM (jxbfJ)

377 He was a sworn sheriff's deputy....that means he had a duty to act like a a sworn sheriffs deputy no matter what you want to call him...

Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2018 11:00 AM (kufk0)

378 I am not a Mozart fan because Mozartians in my
youth were old queens, drier than a popcorn fart, who looked for a way
to make it Calmer.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 10:52 AM (H5rtT)

You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.

Listen to this then get back to me...if you dare!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tEYUXhbsAM

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2018 11:00 AM (wYseH)

379 371 Not trained.
Never been in that situation, but I'm pretty sure I'd say 'fuck it, I'm going in.'
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Yep. I would attack with whatever I had handy. At least I would distract the little shit.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2018 11:01 AM (2LelM)

380 I have to disagree. He was a sworn Sheriff's deputy, not just a mall cop. Mall cops don't carry guns. School districts have "police departments" now. What's the point if they don't act like police. They should be call deterrent guards or something if they can't act, not deputies or officers. He is a coward, plain and simple. He should be stripped of his pension for gross dereliction of duties at the very least.
Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2018 10:56 AM (kufk0)

I understand, and i know he wasn't a mall cop, but I'm cynical enough to believe that , yes, he was probably instructed to not get involved if anything happened. Or to wait for back-up.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2018 11:01 AM (7uYFy)

381 This guy has to live with what he didn't do. I hope he doesn't take his life. Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (7uYFy)

That's a real possibility.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 11:01 AM (CPk08)

382 I'd like to see the school video of the guards actions. After he viewed it the sheriff said it wouldn't be released i believe.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 11:02 AM (70cRb)

383 artisanal 'ette, i have a friend that is a max prison guard and they are no longer able to carry guns!

because'fair!

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 11:02 AM (Z8j2x)

384 Trump goes to topics, and I'm so surprised.

He was just talking about security on military bases. Mentioned the locking up of guns...

wow
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 11:00 AM (fceHP)

He talked about that yesterday at his presser with various people. I'm pretty sure he was referring to Ft. Hood...although he said 'Marine military base'.

Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2018 11:02 AM (Enq6K)

385 THE WHOLE BUREAUCRACY'S PLAN OF ACTION IS INACTION.

That deputy is just following policy.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2018 11:03 AM (oVJmc)

386 I wont talk too tough. I have no idea how I would react to that situation as I am now.

I do know that, if I signed up for that job, I would have done everything I could do to help.

But he did not sign up to protect, he signed up for an easy glide to his pension.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at February 23, 2018 11:03 AM (wGbBR)

387 What a damned orator this president is. It's...embarrassing!
We need a new cut and overdub from "Downfall."

Jung Hitler jumps up on the table in the Bier Hall to Putsch.
And runs smack into Donald J. Trump.
"And little One-Ball Adolf heah? He says he wants a Revolution!
Folks, ain't that the cutest thing you evah seen?" Adolf slinks away...

Sure, maybe Trump's oratorical style would never have developed without Hitler coming first. Maybe. And maybe Trump represents those "sections of New York, major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade."

I for one think he'd have worn Mussolini's hide as assless chaps.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 11:03 AM (H5rtT)

388 If there are eight armed people on campus, seven might shy away from engagement. One cop did. He was only one cop. He was a thirty plus year veteran on a sleepy assignment. He probably didn't know in his heart that he was a coward until he found out.

If eight people are armed on the campus there is at least the chance that one will stand up.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2018 10:52 AM (fuK7c)

Studies from the Military show that taking civilians... arming them... and shoving them into combat... only about 1 in 10 MEN will actually shoot AT the enemy...

We don't have a large enough statistical base about Women to add them into the mix yet... but my guess is it would be even lower.

To enhance the effectiveness... you would need TWO armed Men there... with reasonable training...

Because the military found that once ONE of a pair starts to do what they are trained to do, their partner or small unit will as well...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2018 11:03 AM (NgKpN)

389
Several example photos of Broward County Sheriff queuing up to kiss the FAB's ass in 2016. Priorities, people!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2018 11:03 AM (pNxlR)

390 Did I miss something that shoves heap big guilt (as Lizzy Warren would say) on Peterson?

Posted by: Hikaru at February 23, 2018 11:04 AM (WDCYi)

391 365 http://bit.ly/2ENsCWo
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STUDY: Drinking alcohol may be better than exercise for living past 90
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This ought to make the Horde's weekend !
Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 23, 2018 10:59 AM (y3aQB)


It's working so far. I'm 2/3 of the way there.

Posted by: rickl at February 23, 2018 11:04 AM (xjiRE)

392 I think i hear heads exploding at CNN/MSNBC. Should be a fun day.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 11:05 AM (70cRb)

393 382 I'd like to see the school video of the guards actions. After he viewed it the sheriff said it wouldn't be released i believe.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 11:02 AM (70cRb)

Because, like Lois Lerner's testimony, it would make us TOO MAD???

Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2018 11:05 AM (NgKpN)

394 I could not live with myself if I stood by while those kids were being shot.
For me there would no option.

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 23, 2018 11:05 AM (xBSm0)

395 Can one of the admins ban this commie cock sucker already?

Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 23, 2018 11:05 AM (8ZeGS)

396 Don, i would think the person responding would have to get over the shock first and respond. If trained properly might jump the shock part and questioning a legal response

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 11:05 AM (Z8j2x)

397 The "Coward of Broward" reminds me of the Las Vegas Police Dept that supposedly took something like 40 minutes before they went into the LV shooters hotel room.

We either pay these people to put their life on the line or we don't. If we're going to say they're really just some combination of mall cops and meter maids, maybe we need to restructure their pay and pensions accordingly.

Posted by: Maritime at February 23, 2018 11:05 AM (lKmt3)

398 394 I could not live with myself if I stood by while those kids were being shot.
For me there would no option.
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Men have three biological functions, protect the women and children, hunt and drink beer.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2018 11:06 AM (2LelM)

399 398 394 I could not live with myself if I stood by while those kids were being shot.
For me there would no option.
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Men have three biological functions, protect the women and children, hunt and drink beer.
Posted by: Puddin Head at February 23, 2018 11:06 AM (2LelM)

You left out fucking.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 11:06 AM (NWiLs)

400 BREAKING NEWS!

Here's the video of the Broward Deputy during the school shooting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dx43MvfJsc

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 11:07 AM (k1TUh)

401 Just read that there are now armed police guarding the SRO in his home from any potential harm.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at February 23, 2018 11:07 AM (trC6L)

402 394
I could not live with myself if I stood by while those kids were being shot.
For me there would no option.


Posted by: Roland THTG at February 23, 2018 11:05 AM (xBSm0)

I could not face Heidi. She would never look at me the same again if she stayed with me, I'm certain of it..

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 11:07 AM (70cRb)

403 I wonder if the SRO was just following some BS PC government policy. In other words, I suspect the ROE for that kind of situation, i.e. lone SRO vs shooter(s) was to back off and wait for reinforcement.

Something doesn't seem right in all of this.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 23, 2018 11:07 AM (i0ykY)

404
"The teacher woulda shot the hell out of him."

Posted by: Acme Explosives at February 23, 2018 11:08 AM (2FqvZ)

405 He's sticking DACA up Pelosi and Durbin's asses.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 11:08 AM (398bZ)

406 396
Don, i would think the person responding would have to get over the
shock first and respond. If trained properly might jump the shock part
and questioning a legal response

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 11:05 AM (Z8j2x)

What is even more odd? He was on scene, outside cowering. But then, when officers got on scene, they were using surveillance cameras to try and find the shooter - which we now know the cameras were on a 20-30 minute delay.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2018 11:08 AM (jxbfJ)

407 fgs Tom.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 11:08 AM (Z8j2x)

408 397 The "Coward of Broward" reminds me of the Las Vegas Police Dept that supposedly took something like 40 minutes before they went into the LV shooters hotel room.

We either pay these people to put their life on the line or we don't. If we're going to say they're really just some combination of mall cops and meter maids, maybe we need to restructure their pay and pensions accordingly.

Posted by: Maritime at February 23, 2018 11:05 AM (lKmt3)


I do wonder how many people in that position go into it thinking that they'll never ACTUALLY have to put their lives on the line...

Posted by: Hikaru at February 23, 2018 11:08 AM (WDCYi)

409
Can one of the admins ban this commie cock sucker already?

Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 23, 2018 11:05 AM (8ZeGS)

Be a little more specific please.

For instance, Stringer Davis is a commie cocksucker for his dissing of Mozart, but that's not bannable....yet.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2018 11:08 AM (wYseH)

410 Our Country is Screwed , yikes, How does that even make sense?

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 11:08 AM (Z8j2x)

411 You left out fucking.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 11:06 AM (NWiLs)


That isn't a biological function. That's intellectual cognitive stuff.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 11:08 AM (CPk08)

412

Trump's wrapping up with immigration.
Good

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 11:09 AM (fceHP)

413 I understand, and i know he wasn't a mall cop, but I'm cynical enough to believe that , yes, he was probably instructed to not get involved if anything happened. Or to wait for back-up.

---------

He probably was. And he was probably ordered to wait for backup. And maybe some people would have some sympathy for that ... except his boss decided to make a big show that everyone else was to blame but them. His boss threw him under the bus ... and his actions say it all ... so tough shit.

Posted by: SH at February 23, 2018 11:09 AM (sX1BW)

414 Trump is en Fuego.

Posted by: WisRich at February 23, 2018 11:09 AM (G0vdT)

415 I do wonder how many people in that position go into it thinking that they'll never ACTUALLY have to put their lives on the line...
Posted by: Hikaru

_______

But they really like to act like bad asses until something real goes down.

Posted by: Maritime at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (lKmt3)

416 The "Coward of Broward" reminds me of the Las Vegas Police Dept that supposedly took something like 40 minutes before they went into the LV shooters hotel room.

We either pay these people to put their life on the line or we don't. If we're going to say they're really just some combination of mall cops and meter maids, maybe we need to restructure their pay and pensions accordingly.
Posted by: Maritime



Restructure pay, pensions and how much POWER we give them.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (7OF+y)

417 Oh boy. PDT is making lefties insane. Arm yourselves.. They'll be tearing shit up by tomorrow.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (70cRb)

418 I suspect the ROE for that kind of situation, i.e. lone SRO vs shooter(s) was to back off and wait for reinforcement.


Um...his boss took one look at what he did and fired him. I'd suggest that means it wasn't policy.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (fuK7c)

419 Great! We can't see her tail or her bag of jewels around her neck!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (ewxPW)

420 Randy Shugart and Gary Gordon know about rushing in to protect the defenseless.


Fictional Corporal Upham knows about living with hesitation and paralysis that cost good men their lives.


It's a damn shame about the SRO's failure to act.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (QLvwG)

421 Or to wait for back-up.

this.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (Z8j2x)

422 I don't know where commenters are getting the idea that Peterson was supposed to wait for backup. He wasn't.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (398bZ)

423 ...H2S blowout with an airmask one, one breath of outside air and you drop dead.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 10:59 AM
~~~~~

I worked at a refinery for years, with H2S alarms going off at least a couple of times a month. Thankfully, they were usually small leaks that were quickly contained.

But a question for you: The old timers used to tell us that the first thing to go when you sniffed H2S was your sense of smell. In other words, you get a whiff of that rotten egg smell, start running, don't smell it anymore so you think you're in a safe area and then BOOM, you're dead.

True?

Posted by: IrishEi at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (HiDrR)

424 PDT is making lefties insane.
Goodness, gracious!
Great balls o' fire!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (ewxPW)

425 409 ---this one

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 11:03 AM (H5rtT)

Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 23, 2018 11:11 AM (8ZeGS)

426 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 10:59 AM (k1TUh)

I get ya...

After Desert Storm (USN), my Commanding Officer wrote me a special evaluation... trying to get me promoted...

One line always stuck out .... 'Petty Officer X is the most calm person in a hazardous situation that I have ever met'....

But then.... I'm probably a border line Psychopath, as I can turn emotion off when needed...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2018 11:11 AM (NgKpN)

427 Oh boy. PDT is making lefties insane. Arm yourselves.. They'll be tearing shit up by tomorrow.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (70cRb)


yep, this is awesome

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 11:11 AM (fceHP)

428 They'll be tearing shit up by tomorrow.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (70cRb)

the Truth, and them shall never meet.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 11:11 AM (Z8j2x)

429 It's not just "that kid."

https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/966951389178900480

It's the policy of the school system and the police to ignore and coverup criminal behavior by students to keep the system's statistics looking good and money for having low student crime rates flowing.

It's not just this school system either. The Obama administration put in place the incentives to fudge the numbers and coverup the crimes back in 2010. The 27 minute delay on the surveillance is to allow time to delete video evidence of crimes so they don't have to be written up and then entered into the statistical record.

The SROs are hired for their ability to coverup crime not enforce the law or stop it.

Posted by: geoffb at February 23, 2018 11:11 AM (zOpu5)

430 @378 You are a Dildo. You did not RTFP. Or maybe you're real young?

Tuckwell used to sing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHWnFJ4_61U

Just to make fun of those dry-as-a-popcorn-fart old queens.
Which you deny controlled the whole music world? Come off it.


Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 11:11 AM (H5rtT)

431 "The NYPD also ran toward the towers and not away."

Bogart's Rick to the Nazi in Casablanca: Well there are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 23, 2018 11:11 AM (n+6mJ)

432 >>He's sticking DACA up Pelosi and Durbin's asses.



The DACA kidz may not appreciate it, but Trump is doing a Hell of a job using this issue to demonstrate how the Democrats operate, and how little they care for these various constituencies beyond: "How can I use them to get more power?"

Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2018 11:11 AM (W+vEI)

433

lol, he's reading the snake stuff again

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 11:11 AM (fceHP)

434 "Jewess With Oranges...And One Golf Ball"

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 23, 2018 11:11 AM (jjaLl)

435 But then.... I'm probably a border line Psychopath, as I can turn emotion off when needed...
Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2018 11:11 AM (NgKpN)

this, one can go numb and just go into training mode. i do that.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 11:12 AM (Z8j2x)

436 But then, when officers got on scene, they were using surveillance cameras to try and find the shooter - which we now know the cameras were on a 20-30 minute delay.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed



I'm still not understanding the tape delay.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2018 11:12 AM (7OF+y)

437 "Um...his boss took one look at what he did and fired him. I'd suggest that means it wasn't policy."

Correct. Even the mealy-mouthed politician sheriff made it clear that Peterson should have acted.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 23, 2018 11:12 AM (398bZ)

438 Whats The Snake? WTF?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 11:12 AM (70cRb)

439 430 @378 You are a Dildo.

Raaaaaaaaaacist.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 11:12 AM (CPk08)

440 He probably was. And he was probably ordered to wait for backup. And maybe some people would have some sympathy for that ... except his boss decided to make a big show that everyone else was to blame but them. His boss threw him under the bus ... and his actions say it all ... so tough shit.
Posted by: SH

__________

Even still if that was protocol, you don't wait around while a slaughter like that is happening.

Funny, cops break the rules all the time, this time he could have actually done some good.

Posted by: Maritime at February 23, 2018 11:12 AM (lKmt3)

441 I have been shot at before or rather unfortunately been in front of what was being shot at . After it is all over it feels better than taking off your boots after a long day.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2018 11:12 AM (4lzWT)

442 Now I look and see the golf ball angle was covered by comment # 10.....

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 23, 2018 11:12 AM (jjaLl)

443 Never heard of this 'snake' stuff...

Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2018 11:12 AM (Enq6K)

444 DACA up Pelosi and Durbin's asses

did He mention Pelosis vineyards and cheap labor?

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 11:12 AM (Z8j2x)

445
I'm pretty sure he was referring to Ft. Hood...although he said 'Marine military base'.
Posted by: Tami


Ha ha, what a dummy. He's not smart like I am!

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 23, 2018 11:12 AM (IqV8l)

446 But then.... I'm probably a border line Psychopath, as I can turn emotion off when needed...
Posted by: Don Q.



Give me a legal green light and a legit reason...

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2018 11:12 AM (7OF+y)

447 Report: U.S. Plans To Move Embassy In Israel To Jerusalem On May 14

To all the limp wristed Israel haters out there, in my best Sean and Gus from Psyche voice, suck it!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 23, 2018 11:13 AM (+y/Ru)

448 Was talking to my brother the firefighter last night about this. He said he doesn't like running into burning buildings either but he does it because he's trained to be able to deal with it and he has a better chance of getting in and getting someone else out alive than the poor bastard that's in there. He says there are a few guys on the job that you can't count on and everybody knows who they are, but it's so tough to get rid of them that they're just pushed aside and told to stay out of the way and not get anyone else hurt. He also says that there are a lot more of them on the job now than there used to be. It's just another government job now with that nice pension after 20 to them.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 23, 2018 11:13 AM (O5Q3r)

449 He read The Snake at a lot of rallies.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 23, 2018 11:13 AM (juCZM)

450 Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan are feeling so embarrassed for our President right now.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 11:13 AM (r9UYA)

451 People are REALLY serious about their Mozart around here. SMH.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 23, 2018 11:13 AM (RD7QR)

452 >>Never heard of this 'snake' stuff...


He often read this at rallies during the campaign.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 23, 2018 11:13 AM (W+vEI)

453 Oh THAT snake stuff!

Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2018 11:14 AM (Enq6K)

454 But then, when officers got on scene, they were using surveillance cameras to try and find the shooter - which we now know the cameras were on a 20-30 minute delay.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

But they were also in the buildings manually looking for him.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2018 11:14 AM (4lzWT)

455 NO STEP ON SNEK!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 11:14 AM (NWiLs)

456 450 Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan are feeling so embarrassed for our President right now.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 11:13 AM (r9UYA)


and yet they still look like pussies....LOL

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 11:14 AM (CPk08)

457 Now Trump's comparing immigrants to SNAKES!!
-----MSM

Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2018 11:14 AM (7uYFy)

458 450 Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan are feeling so embarrassed for our President right now.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 11:13 AM (r9UYA)

And that's why they're not president.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 23, 2018 11:14 AM (RD7QR)

459 Was talking to my brother the firefighter last night about this. He said he doesn't like running into burning buildings either but he does it because he's trained to be able to deal with it and he has a better chance of getting in and getting someone else out alive than the poor bastard that's in there. He says there are a few guys on the job that you can't count on

it really is about training, that You have trained enough to overcome all the questioning .

i suppose some are naturals, as we saw with the church guy.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 11:14 AM (Z8j2x)

460 Michael Medved will be shitting his pants this afternoon. because 'not Presidential'. LMAO!!!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 11:14 AM (70cRb)

461 Never heard of this 'snake' stuff...
Posted by: Tami at February 23, 2018 11:12 AM (Enq6K)


he read it at his rallies

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 11:14 AM (fceHP)

462 This painting is a n allegory about big ole orange Trump being pwned by feminist Jew's

Posted by: Bigby's Pointy Finger at February 23, 2018 11:15 AM (z5KQf)

463 451 People are REALLY serious about their Mozart around here. SMH.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 23, 2018 11:13 AM (RD7QR)


Compassion is what is called for, here.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 11:15 AM (CPk08)

464 http://bit.ly/2EOm4ad
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Father of School Shooting Survivor Cameron Kasky Posted Implied Threat Against Marco Rubio Before CNN Town Hall

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 23, 2018 11:15 AM (y3aQB)

465 Randy Shugart and Gary Gordon know about rushing in to protect the defenseless.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (QLvwG)

I just read Shugart's MOH citation...it gave me goosebumps.

What a man. What a soldier. What an American!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2018 11:15 AM (wYseH)

466 Funny, cops break the rules all the time, this time he could have actually done some good.

--------------

Sadly this cop gives many of them bad reps and confirms what many of us think about a lot of cops. They act tough because the badge and the gun make them feel tough ... but in reality they are cowards.

Obviously, that does not apply to all cops - perhaps not even most.

Posted by: SH at February 23, 2018 11:15 AM (sX1BW)

467 Trump analogizing illegals to a vicious snake.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2018 11:15 AM (bsdd3)

468 This is epic. Too much. Go PDT.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 11:15 AM (70cRb)

469 If not talking like a mealy-mouthed cocksucker makes one "unpresidential" then so be it.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 11:16 AM (NWiLs)

470
Ginger v. Mary Ann

Longbows v. Crossbows

Now: Handel v. Mozart

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2018 11:16 AM (BWL+E)

471 460 Michael Medved will be shitting his pants this afternoon. because 'not Presidential'. LMAO!!!!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 11:14 AM (70cRb)
----------
Instead of his Life Partner cumming in his ass?

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 23, 2018 11:16 AM (y3aQB)

472
Men have three biological functions, protect the women and children, hunt and drink beer.
Posted by: Puddin Head

You left out fucking.
Posted by: Insomniac



The first two functions are for securing reliable access to f*cking, for beta males ( the majority population ), that is. It used to be that way, anyway. Drinking beer is just what they do when they're not f*cking.

Posted by: Zombie Henry Wadsworth Longfellow at February 23, 2018 11:16 AM (EzdLW)

473

my goodness

he needs to in front of that camera more

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 11:16 AM (fceHP)

474 Snakes are a phallic symbol. Trump is saying immigrants want to rape our daughters!!!--

MSM

Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2018 11:16 AM (7uYFy)

475 460 Michael Medved will be shitting his pants this afternoon. because 'not Presidential'. LMAO!!!!

It's okay, Ben Shapiro will comfort him in his hours of need.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 11:17 AM (r9UYA)

476 Oh man.

Posted by: WisRich at February 23, 2018 11:17 AM (G0vdT)

477 Haydn was the one dismissed with prejudice as a 'pretty plinking' composer in my day. I need to get some of his symphonies for this terrible February-March dark time of year. For some reason, even when he is expressing sorrow or darkness, his joy always comes through. I need that right now.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 23, 2018 11:17 AM (MIKMs)

478 Shatner vs Trump in dramatic readings of old pop tunes.

Two men enter. Make gunpowder from their own urine. One man leaves.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 11:17 AM (H5rtT)

479 470

Now: Handel v. Mozart
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2018 11:16 AM (BWL+E)


Nah. Go for Rammstein. LOL

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 11:17 AM (CPk08)

480 Hmm. One might have expected more respect from a syphilitic, drug-dealing old cock-hound like Beecham for a guy who had unlimited access to the most beautiful young women in Italy.

...

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 10:52 AM (H5rtT)


========

When we were teens, my sister, proficient at the violin, would like to specify that Vivaldi (the "red priest") taught young women because he wanted to empower them and realized that because of their smaller, nimbler fingers, they were more proficient than men. She was a big fan of Midori. A liberal, you might say. But compared to some of the stories I've read here, I should be thankful. We can still speak to one another occasionally.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 23, 2018 11:18 AM (/qEW2)

481 gah. would like to *speculate*.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 23, 2018 11:18 AM (/qEW2)

482 Um...his boss took one look at what he did and fired him. I'd suggest that means it wasn't policy.[/]

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (fuK7c)

That's one way to look at it. On the other hand, Broward County is a festering hole of PC and I'm not gonna take that guy's word at face value. Show me the published ROE.

I agree that as an armed individual, he should have engaged the shooter, regardless of any ROE contrary to that. He's gonna live with that for the rest of his life. But if he was following the ROE, the Sheriff has blood on his hands as well.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 23, 2018 11:18 AM (i0ykY)

483 FFS

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 23, 2018 11:18 AM (i0ykY)

484 Catholic Bishop Reaffirms Democrat Dick Durbin's Ban From Receiving Holy Communion

Wait until Frankie Hollywood hears about this!

Little Dick was banned because he voted against banning late term abortions. Nazi Pelosi seems to remain in good standing, though.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 23, 2018 11:19 AM (+y/Ru)

485 Spring break season is upon us, and there will be plenty of kids using the time to go into public places, get in front of cameras, and scream about the nasty NRA and Republican school shooter-killers.

It cannot be stopped. There was no similar follow-up by country music fans after the Las Vegas massacre because it was the political opposite of what we have here.

What it will do is to fan the flames of the opposition, those who want to uncover the mess that's there in Broward, and those that want to secure the schools with gates and weaponry.

I sure wish we had reporters that would confront Dem politicians at every opportunity, with the same spirit they have when asking Repubs about whether they will "stand up" to the NRA, asking the Dems what "do something" means, with specifics.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 23, 2018 11:19 AM (5OEn4)

486 Nood

Posted by: tu3031 at February 23, 2018 11:19 AM (O5Q3r)

487 Presidential is not being burdened with thinking America is a country worth saving.

or flipping the bird to it's citizens

or targeting half the countries citizens against the other.

or using govt agencies to intimidate people uyou don't like

You know like the Left's candidates.

Posted by: willow at February 23, 2018 11:19 AM (Z8j2x)

488
Can't wait for Bruckner v. Mahler. Know which side I'm on. Mahler: 10 symphonies of "Oh my God, I'm dying!!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2018 11:19 AM (BWL+E)

489
But he did not sign up to protect, he signed up for an easy glide to his pension.


Drive to the top of Mt. Academia and put it in "Park"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 23, 2018 11:19 AM (pNxlR)

490 Did you folks see the stuff about the Guy in Florida... supposed Gun Guy, who after the shooting decided to post destroying his AR15???

Problem is... the Scope was on backwards???

/facepalm

Astroturf... its what's for dinner...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 23, 2018 11:19 AM (NgKpN)

491 460 Michael Medved will be shitting his pants this afternoon. because 'not Presidential'. LMAO!!!!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 11:14 AM (70cRb)



Sadly, I am even having a hard time listening to his otherwise excellent history lectures anymore, seeing what a shill Medved has become.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2018 11:19 AM (ujg0T)

492 463 451 People are REALLY serious about their Mozart around here. SMH.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 23, 2018 11:13 AM (RD7QR)

Compassion is what is called for, here.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 11:15 AM (CPk0

He was a genius, yes, but it's like being a genius at writing movie music. Nice and distracting, but nothing to get passionate about.




[ducks, runs]

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 23, 2018 11:20 AM (RD7QR)

493 Sadly this cop gives many of them bad reps and confirms what many of us think about a lot of cops. They act tough because the badge and the gun make them feel tough ... but in reality they are cowards.

Obviously, that does not apply to all cops -

+++

Megalomania and paranoia describes nearly all of them, cowardice gets mixed in a lot

Posted by: Bigby's Pointy Finger at February 23, 2018 11:20 AM (z5KQf)

494 The SRO turned out to be a lamb dressed in sheepdog attire when the wolf appeared.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 23, 2018 11:20 AM (QLvwG)

495 63 Not interested. Too young. No boobies.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 23, 2018 09:38 AM (hyuyC)

You could look up "Boobsie Twins."

But here you go for SFW:

https://tinyurl.com/ps57whq


Suddenly, a ZZ Top song springs to mind.

Posted by: Carl 'Sticky Fingers' Larsson at February 23, 2018 11:20 AM (16OL0)

496 @477 Haydn's string quartets opened my ears to him. Straight line from him to the Grosse Fugue. Did you know, when he worked for Count Toby out at the summer place, he had a whole section of gypsy fiddlers on staff? While he was inventing what we call the symphony? Yeah, they sure don't teach him as a wild man. But Sturm and Drang were in his holster, for sure.

I have to confess to liking the Rolling Stone cover with him on it.
Oops, that was the Lampoon. So, there you go.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 11:21 AM (H5rtT)

497 But a question for you: The old timers used to tell us that the first thing to go when you sniffed H2S was your sense of smell. In other words, you get a whiff of that rotten egg smell, start running, don't smell it anymore so you think you're in a safe area and then BOOM, you're dead.

True?"

Yes, true, although it does depend on the PPM concentration. Very low amounts, a few ppm, will give you a blinding headache first. What's so bad is that it acts on the nervous system, which is really nasty. Not long after a person notices the rotten eggs small, the nasal receptors are overwhelmed and cut out, which is why smell seems to go away. And a little bit after that the muscle control in the lungs gets neutralized, which is when someone falls down and dies.

If someone with a mask can pull a collapsed person out of danger and get them on some mechanized CPR (NOT mouth to mouth!) for 15 minutes, they'll probably survive. It's a weird, weird poison. Oh, and it eats high strength steel just for fun. Turns steel into pieces of brittle wood.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 11:21 AM (k1TUh)

498 For instance, Stringer Davis is a commie cocksucker for his dissing of Mozart, but that's not bannable....yet.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2018 11:08 AM (wYseH)

Think about this for a minute. Mozart's music is still widely familiar to people and often played and enjoyed 227 years after his death. It's become a touchstone of western culture.
How many contemporary musicians will be able to say that? Do you think anybody will listen to dreck merchants like Katy Perry 227 years from now?

Posted by: Agent Cooper at February 23, 2018 11:21 AM (oyCqX)

499 Shugart and Gordon knew they would die to a certainty but insisted on going in anyway.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2018 11:22 AM (bsdd3)

500 Best-Selling Moonbat Author Mistakes Norwegian Flag Flying Near Her Seattle Home As A Confederate Flag

Ehhh. Confederates, Scandis, pretty much the same thing.

The author is Rebecca Morris, whom I never heard of, but who is apparently is a NYT best seller list author.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 23, 2018 11:22 AM (+y/Ru)

501 Was that really presidential? Isn't he alienating millions of people? Will he be able to reach across the aisle now? How does he expect cooperation by Democrats by insulting them? Did he have to go after Obama? Thats just not the way to lead. We need civility. He's so divisive!!

Posted by: F*cking Medved pretending to be conservative but really just a hipster douchebag. at February 23, 2018 11:22 AM (70cRb)

502 Great ape is up.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 23, 2018 11:22 AM (RD7QR)

503 STUDY: Drinking alcohol may be better than exercise for living past 90


I was born to be hung.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2018 11:22 AM (QQ+il)

504 When we were teens, my sister, proficient at the violin, would like to specify that Vivaldi (the "red priest") taught young women because he wanted to empower them and realized that because of their smaller, nimbler fingers, they were more proficient than men. She was a big fan of Midori. A liberal, you might say. But compared to some of the stories I've read here, I should be thankful. We can still speak to one another occasionally.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 23, 2018 11:18 AM (/qEW2)


Let's see: Renaissance era priest likes little girls because he wants to empower them. Hm.

Other motives spring to mind.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 11:22 AM (CPk08)

505 335
That deputy is being ripped a new asshole by Trump.

This guy has to live with what he didn't do. I hope he doesn't take his life.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 23, 2018 10:54 AM (7uYF)--
Then, based on his emotional state, I would expect to see CNN demanding his personal firearms be forcibly confiscated under their gun control agenda.

Posted by: BluesFish at February 23, 2018 11:22 AM (V4Wjo)

506 488
Can't wait for Bruckner v. Mahler. Know which side I'm on. Mahler: 10 symphonies of "Oh my God, I'm dying!!"
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 23, 2018 11:19 AM (BWL+E)

At least one of which consisted of stolen klezmer.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 23, 2018 11:22 AM (RD7QR)

507 Michael Medved will be shitting his pants this afternoon. because 'not Presidential'. LMAO!!!!

It's okay, Ben Shapiro will comfort him in his hours of need.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 23, 2018 11:17 AM (r9UYA)


Matt Schlapp, CPAC's organizer was saying that the nevertrumpers are eating their words and look foolish.

They claimed Trump would not be conservative and push conservative policies, but he is, Schlapp said.

And they can't come to grips with this. They are being dishonest.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 11:22 AM (fceHP)

508 I was born to be hung.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 23, 2018 11:22 AM (QQ+il)


Ummm...lol

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 11:23 AM (CPk08)

509 A 'wait for re-inforcements' policy makes the position worse than useless.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 23, 2018 11:23 AM (oVJmc)

510 Ginger v. Mary Ann

Longbows v. Crossbows

Now: Handel v. Mozart
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


Mary Ann
Longbows
Hank Williams Sr.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2018 11:23 AM (7OF+y)

511 Posted by: Bigby's Pointy Finger at February 23, 2018 11:20 AM (z5KQf)

You know a good percentage of LE are former military. I do not think they join LE because they are egomaniacs.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2018 11:23 AM (4lzWT)

512 https://tinyurl.com/ps57whq
Suddenly, a ZZ Top song springs to mind.

Legs, or Pearl Necklace?

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 11:24 AM (k1TUh)

513 Sadly, I am even having a hard time listening to his
otherwise excellent history lectures anymore, seeing what a shill
Medved has become.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2018 11:19 AM (ujg0T)

Yes, he is a terrific historian but his virtue signaling is annoying. PDT is a slugger. Medveds a pussy.

Posted by: F*cking Medved pretending to be conservative but really just a hipster douchebag. at February 23, 2018 11:24 AM (70cRb)

514

Nood

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 23, 2018 11:24 AM (fceHP)

515 Which you deny controlled the whole music world? Come off it.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 11:11 AM (H5rtT)

Seriously?

Who gives a shit what other people think? Mozart was the greatest composer of all time. That some mincing fruit at the NY Philharmonic liked him too doesn't mean I will pitch a temper tantrum and listen to someone else.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2018 11:24 AM (wYseH)

516 Thanks for spoiling the hockey game for me, guys!

Actually, thanks for saving me 2 or so hours of my life.

And Jack Straw (IIRC) will back me up on having said before the hockey started that without the NHL players playing, any team could win so it would be an interesting tournament to follow.

I didn't say so but I figured the Euro teams who have a fair number of players on each team who are from the same Euro professional leagues and so are used to working together would do well.

Still, Germany is a real surprise. I'll have to see who they're playing against before deciding who to root for though.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2018 11:25 AM (ewxPW)

517 Hooooly shit PDT. Thank you.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 23, 2018 11:25 AM (70cRb)

518 You know who else liked Bruckner?

https://tinyurl.com/yagf2nyk

Besides me, I mean?
I've always felt "poor old Wagner" got a bad rap. There was a heap of composers Nazi-er than he was. Hell, some even anti-Semiter, too.
Come to think of it, some working today...

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 11:25 AM (H5rtT)

519 AAND Trump Rick-rolls 'em, on the way out!
"I will never ever let you down."

"Or hurt you."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 11:26 AM (H5rtT)

520 Nazi Pelosi seems to remain in good standing, though.
It's probably up to the local bishop/archbishop.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 23, 2018 11:26 AM (ewxPW)

521
494 The SRO turned out to be a lamb dressed in sheepdog attire when the wolf appeared.


Posted by: Count de Monet at February 23, 2018 11:20 AM (QLvwG)

Which is why having one armed guard at a school isn't enough. He might chicken out or else the shooter will be sure to take him out first. Having guards and at least some armed teachers (but not advertising who the armed teachers are) would be more effective. If a shooter doesn't know who has a gun or how many people are armed, he'll know it won't be like fish in a barrel.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 23, 2018 11:26 AM (ZM2xo)

522 For some reason, even when he is expressing sorrow or darkness, his joy always comes through.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 23, 2018 11:17 AM (MIKMs)

Well put.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2018 11:28 AM (wYseH)

523 Who gives a shit what other people think?

They succeeded in driving two generations away from "classical" music.
To the point where we have late-night reflections on the importance of the greatest music in people's lives, none of which reaches before Elvis.

I give a shit what those people think, and I know for sure that the taxpayers' money was spent making sure they'd never be able to enjoy orchestral music. No big complaint; it made great work for me, and I worked my way through college playing rock and roll among other things. But musical ignorance is not acciedntal. Bad Mozart teachers did that. And you know it's true.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 23, 2018 11:30 AM (H5rtT)

524 Why not just treat schools like the rest of society? Anybody could have a concealed carry permit. At any time. Teacher. Principal. Bus driver. Cafeteria worker. Anybody.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 23, 2018 11:33 AM (jnLXM)

525 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2018 11:21 AM

~~~~~

Thanks for the info. Scary, scary stuff.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 23, 2018 11:34 AM (HiDrR)

526 Who gives a shit what other people think? Mozart was the greatest composer of all time. That some mincing fruit at the NY Philharmonic liked him too doesn't mean I will pitch a temper tantrum and listen to someone else.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2018 11:24 AM (wYseH)


In all seriousness (I have some here, somewhere. Just a minnit) Mozart had a serious melodic ability, sure. But greatest composer? Depth, breadth, technical virtuousity, innovation...Not so sure there.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 23, 2018 11:38 AM (CPk08)

527 Pulse nightclub shooting went down the same way.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 23, 2018 10:40 AM (NWiLs)

Was that also in Broward County?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2018 11:41 AM (Dbv1R)

528 >>...I will pitch a temper tantrum and listen to someone else. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2018 11:24 AM (wYseH)

You will pitch a temper tantrum. Then you will listen to someone else. Zod commands this to be so.

Posted by: Zod at February 23, 2018 11:45 AM (Bdeb0)

529 There's a meme that the cop guarding the school was justified because he
only had a cop gun (presumably something like a Glock) while the
shooter had military gear. I'm skeptical.


He didn't go in - how would he have known the shooter had an AR? Bang sounds a whole lot like Bang. So yeah, bullshit.


Posted by: An Observation at February 23, 2018 11:48 AM (YFue0)

530 True?

Posted by: IrishEi at February 23, 2018 11:10 AM (HiDrR)

True. I get H2S Alive safety training every 3 years, for my oil patch job.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2018 12:03 PM (Dbv1R)

531 Deterrence to school shootings takes many forms. What Broward slaughter suggests to me is a complete lack of preparedness, from the security systems, on-site personnel, the frickin SHERIFF, top to bottom LACK of preparedness.

Speaking of preparedness:

Do any public schools at any level practice "lone shooter incursion" safety drills?

Back in the day we had no-notice drills for fire, nuke, earthquake, and creepy dudes entering the playground drills.

First rule: stay calm and protect yourself---forget about your belongings (the nuke training was useless but at least we all knew what to do just in case we got lucky).

That's different than "run screaming randomly into the shooters' path." Kids aren't helpless sheep unless they haven't been shown *how* to respond, *when* to respond, and *why* they must choose staying calm.

Lot's of noise about the kind of children we are raising (most don't know how to clean dog shite off their shoes....that's real), but that doesn't concern me. It's idle criticism.

As a former teacher over 25 years, K-12, college, tech schools, and land grant universities, there is a common principle about young people that's being roundly ignored.

Young people are RESILIENT and place a high degree of value on surviving, despite the culture of consumption that has them drugged out and eating bad food, oversaturating themselves with electronic media and virtual reality...blah blah blah.

Some discussants ignore that principle which has been around as long as humans have walked the Earth and it will be around long after all of us are on the bottom of a rootbed somewheres nice.

Young people are trainable. They have limited power in their lives overall, even though blah blah blah. Most of all their brains are hyper-developed but only in 2 of the 7 main areas. But they are trainable through demonstration, stories, and *DRILL*.

Those 3 components inspire them to demonstrate competence. They tend to hate stupid shit coming out of adult pie holes. And I would imagine the Blowhard County Bored With Education is shoveling it by the truckloads.

So...

If parents weren't so pre-occupied they'd engage with their kids in basic self-defense/martial arts training.

The "Raiders of the Lost Ark" sword/gun parody aside, 10 kids in that school with the *MINDSET* to prevail in any way possible against a gun-wielding assailant would have been a support to the JROTC and other heroes that day.

ADVANTAGE---> Human targets become harder to hit targets. (Not saying turn them into ninjas. Saying self-defense is the best defense: and the highest order of self-defense is to not be where your assailant thinks you're going to be.)

Hell make the training into a video game--- take the power out of their fear. And at the same time light a fire under the lard asses "watching over" these hen houses. Kids are pretty good at holding adults to a higher standard when they are doing it for themselves.

Class subject matter and problem solving exercises could be devised at all levels of schooling: if it's about the kids' survival, then teach them to apply academic concepts across disciplines to solve complex problems.

Final thought: here is my definition of "expert"--- a former drip under pressure.

End this tyranny of fear. Hoist the black flag over every school in America and back it the f*ck up with lethal defensive deterrence.

HL Mencken lives.

"Can I haz a cheezburger now?"

Posted by: Nosferatu at February 23, 2018 12:14 PM (ghzHY)

532 529 The entire focus of armed security or LE is to draw fire away from the soft target civvies.

Period.

Not get shot. Not go down nobly. OODA. Basic chit.
You go in to protect but do so intelligently with skill (training doesn't automatically give you skill--- but practice does).

That deputies own mental health issues were playing out. Can't have that. How close to retirement was he? Is that a factor in this? But I digress.

Take cover, advance toward the target. Don't become the target. Make the a-hole into a target.

That's the game-changer--- not just some silly yes/no "choice" to go "in" or not. Change the effin game.

The idea of war is not to die for your country---it's to make the other guy die for his. GS Patton

See that asshole before he sees you (and make sure you have at least 4 clips so you can reload) and make the a-hole have a come to Jesus moment.

OODA you donut eating gravy soppin dum mutha"shutchermouth!"

Peace, love, and unicorns!

-NoS

Posted by: Nosferatu at February 23, 2018 12:24 PM (ghzHY)

533 About them oranges.... I think I see them looking at her because they just KNOW they are about to be eaten.

(Sorry--- that cow story has turned into a hypothalamus-devouring mind worm.)

Posted by: Nosferatu at February 23, 2018 12:27 PM (ghzHY)

534 Beautiful woman

Posted by: Kim Jong-nul at February 23, 2018 12:32 PM (artIV)

535 Flew in from Miami Beach B.O.A.C. ...

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 23, 2018 02:16 PM (RuIsu)

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