Thread before the Gardening Thread: The Liberal Revolt Against the Masses [KT]

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

Happy Saturday, Horde. I thought that about now would be a good time to get away from the news for a little history. The Assistant Village Idiot put up a post about an interview with Fred Siegel in Spiked Review. It is primarily about the rise of elitism within liberalism since the 1920s in America.

I didn't know much about Siegel. He was an advisor to Rudy Giuliani (after working for Democrats). He is now at the Manhattan Institute and writes at the New York Post, among other places. In 2013, he wrote a book titled The revolt against the masses: how liberalism has undermined the middle class.

He doesn't seem to be a big Trump fan, but he also thinks "The Resistance" is way off base. Anyway, interesting interview. Lots of bits of history that I didn't know. But since I live in the non-liberal part of California, this little vignette from the interview caught my eye:

Let me tell you about what happened at a party in California I went to on New Year's Eve. A lot of interesting, nice people were there. They asked me what I'm interested in, blah, blah, blah, and I would tell them, 'You know, I'm in favour of California resisting Trump. And more than that, I want California to secede.' And they look at me like I'm crazy. They say, 'Why would you, a guy from Brooklyn, want us to secede?'. 'Well', I say, 'you are definitely, I think we can all see, smarter and more virtuous than the rest of the country. You should be the people to take on Kim Jong Un.' When I say that, people literally slink away. . .

Heh.

Siegel places the beginning of liberalism in the 1920s with the formation of the ACLU. He sees HL Mencken as an inspiration to future liberals, although Mencken did not define himself as a liberal. He notes arguments for multiculturalism in The New Republic a hundred years ago. There are some interesting details and views about later eras, too. You might like to read it.

Obama was a child of the 1960s. He represented the institutionalisation of a liberalism that had gone off the rails - and he further pushed it off the rails.

Art History and Our Media

Siegel thinks the culture of the 1950s, when people where listening to symphonies and reading good books, gets a bad rap in our media.

Moving to this week, in its Critic's Notebook, the New York Times somehow failed to mention that the artist Obama chose to paint his official portrait had a history of painting black women holding the heads of decapitated white women. The critic did say that the artist had been busy "creating the collective image of a global black aristocracy".

Can't get more elite than an aristocracy.

So, are the masses back in those leaves somewhere?

Hope you have a good weekend.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:17 AM

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1 Foist?

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 17, 2018 11:12 AM (kVoIs)

2 And it sure has a echo.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 17, 2018 11:13 AM (kVoIs)

3 Hmmm...

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 11:13 AM (/qEW2)

4 You can almost hear the pin drop, it's so quiet in here.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 17, 2018 11:14 AM (kVoIs)

5 The Revolt of the Masses is an excellent book. I've read it twice, and will read it again. The bottom line is that humanity hasn't changed over the millenia. It's always "I'm better than you, and should get to run your life". The problem is that being good at one thing doesn't make you good in other things. An even bigger problem is when you aren't good at anything, because you lack the ability, or more frequently, the drive. That's how you end up with Obama in a sea of poison ivy.

Posted by: pep at February 17, 2018 11:16 AM (LAe3v)

6 Sitting here in Phoenix now waiting for my connection to JFK. Oh by the way, did I mention that I hate waiting in airports.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 17, 2018 11:16 AM (kVoIs)

7 Let California sede after they pay their portion of the national debt. Then they can get to thinking about the money, water, electricity and oil that flows in.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 17, 2018 11:16 AM (q6C1L)

8 no one has called the cor...

Posted by: socalcon at February 17, 2018 11:18 AM (Roy2Z)

9 Was going to do yard work but then read that I'm racist if I don't see Black Panther. Guess I have to go to the movies.

On the upside, maybe I can write it off as doing my part for reparations.

Posted by: doomed at February 17, 2018 11:18 AM (UW4Uc)

10 Know what really sucks about most airports...no smoking lounge. Two airports that have smoking lounge in secure area are Hartsfield in Atlanta and GSP in Greenville SC.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 17, 2018 11:19 AM (kVoIs)

11 he New York Times somehow failed to mention that the artist Obama chose to paint his official portrait had a history of painting black women holding the heads of decapitated white women.

Oh sure, when he does it, it's fine.

Posted by: pep at February 17, 2018 11:20 AM (LAe3v)

12 Thought you were racist if you didn't wait at least two weeks before going to see it.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 17, 2018 11:20 AM (kVoIs)

13 Whoops, meant to nic Kathy Griffin.

Posted by: pep at February 17, 2018 11:20 AM (LAe3v)

14 12
Thought you were racist if you didn't wait at least two weeks before going to see it.

Posted by: Traveling Man

Your problem is that you think there's anything you can do that isn't racist. Once you understand that there isn't, life is much simpler.

Posted by: pep at February 17, 2018 11:22 AM (LAe3v)

15 I'm in a totally different zone.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 17, 2018 11:23 AM (kVoIs)

16
Know what really sucks about most airports...no smoking lounge. Two
airports that have smoking lounge in secure area are Hartsfield in
Atlanta and GSP in Greenville SC.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 17, 2018 11:19 AM (kVoIs)

With the demise of smoking areas in airports. Can't we now get pot smoking lounges? That seems to be okay with most everyone now, maybe a pot smoking area in the back of the planes....got to get updated in whats allowed now!

Posted by: Colin at February 17, 2018 11:23 AM (4zmgP)

17 I'm wondering if our Village Idiot's Apprentice knows about this Assistant Village Idiot fellow.

I think they should revolt, and our VIA can move up to the position of Village Idiot and the other guy can be the Assistant to the Village Idiot.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 11:25 AM (kNasr)

18 Obama got the painting he deserved.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 11:25 AM (aMlLZ)

19 Yeah, self-betterment used to be a thing. Now it's all about victimhood.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 11:26 AM (qJtVm)

20 Your problem is that you think there's anything you can do that isn't racist. Once you understand that there isn't, life is much simpler.
Posted by: pep at February 17, 2018 11:22 AM (LAe3v)

Exactly. I have just accepted it after a black semi-friend gave me the "white people don't know they are racist" crap. I said 'huh, goodbye.' And after that I just go along each day happy and comfortable in the knowledge that I'm a racist and finding minoities to oppress.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 17, 2018 11:26 AM (70cRb)

21 Barack found his ball. It was in the ivy.

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2018 11:27 AM (+y0ym)

22 15 I'm in a totally different zone.
Posted by: Traveling Man at February 17, 2018 11:23 AM (kVoIs)

Most morons are.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 17, 2018 11:27 AM (70cRb)

23 'Well', I say, 'you are definitely, I think we can all see, smarter and more virtuous than the rest of the country. You should be the people to take on Kim Jong Un.'

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In this, Californians are like Europeans. They have contempt for (the rest of) America, yet they depend upon us for their defense.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 11:28 AM (/qEW2)

24 Obama got the painting he deserved.

It looks like it should be painted on the side of a building on Malcolm X Blvd.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 17, 2018 11:29 AM (O5Q3r)

25 No smoking in most all of NYS...Except, Indian casinos and one of the racetrack casinos, They all have large both smoking and non-smoking areas. I'm surprised that this be allowed, how does Senator/Squaw Liz Warren feel about her tribes letting people smoke.

Posted by: Colin at February 17, 2018 11:29 AM (4zmgP)

26 Oh sure, when he does it, it's fine.
Posted by: pep

I know! I got in trouble for that, too.

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2018 11:29 AM (K1sgG)

27 #9, I thought it was "we are racist if we don't see Black Panther, but Whitey is supposed to stay home the first weekend so persons of color can enjoy it."

So fuck it, I am going to BitTorrent that one.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at February 17, 2018 11:30 AM (2kD+f)

28 In this, Californians are like Europeans. They have contempt for (the rest of) America, yet they depend upon us for their defense.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 11:28 AM (/qEW2)

Thats very good Steve so I'm stealing it. Stealing is the ultimate form of flattery. Well here anyway.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 17, 2018 11:30 AM (70cRb)

29 Liberalism is based on emotion. Conservatism is based on logic.

You definitely can create problems when making decisions based on either of those in an all or nothing aspect.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:31 AM (2DOZq)

30 Yeah, doesn't matter what you do, they'll call ya racist anyway.

As for me... no plans at all to watch BP. 'Cause I'm rayciss, you see.

Will definitely watch Eastwood's latest, though. 'Cause I'm islamophobic also, you see.

lmfao

Posted by: JQ at February 17, 2018 11:31 AM (yD/Pf)

31 Imagine if someone said that Obama should have his portrait be him coming out of "the bush."

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 11:32 AM (16bxt)

32 re the 60's /while i missed the sixties ..as a sentient human dult a decade later being i had watched all my friends from my childhood of all ethnic groups swinging into the upward mobility lifestyle, of course some of us failed, hardships, health, some drug/alcohol failures, But we were as people were all on the same trail.

what the NEW and so debilitating un enlightened group in control of the country now try to tell us, Is we Can't.. they tell blacks they can't because race, they tell mexicans (American)they can't without them. They tell me as a woman that made more than my spouse for years I Can't, because misogyny, It's all about tripping us up as a people.

a people/american, disunite, that's liberalism re 2000's.

Posted by: willow at February 17, 2018 11:32 AM (Z8j2x)

33 Know what really sucks about most airports...no smoking lounge. Two airports that have smoking lounge in secure area are Hartsfield in Atlanta and GSP in Greenville SC.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 17, 2018 11:19 AM (kVoIs)

Tampa airport and Key West airport have smoking lounges, Key West airport has a beach lounge...

Posted by: KWDreaming at February 17, 2018 11:34 AM (mBmTz)

34 As for me... no plans at all to watch BP. 'Cause I'm rayciss, you see.

I am certain that watching the Slam Dunk contest will forever make me non-racist.

Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2018 11:34 AM (YloZ9)

35 I do want to watch Thanos brutally slaughter half of all these characters that people have learned to like. That's assuming the movie script follows original storyline.

Posted by: doomed at February 17, 2018 11:34 AM (UW4Uc)

36 I find I'm much better off just not participating in pop culture at any level.

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 11:35 AM (16bxt)

37 I thought it was "we are racist if we don't see Black Panther, but Whitey is supposed to stay home the first weekend so persons of color can enjoy it."

So fuck it, I am going to BitTorrent that one.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at February 17, 2018 11:30 AM (2kD+f)

I'm not going at all, fuck it. Curious that they named it after a terrorist group. Oh btw, let me know when they make a movie with a lily white pickup driving superhero called "Klan"

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 11:35 AM (aMlLZ)

38 I have just accepted it after a black semi-friend gave me the "white people don't know they are racist" crap. I said 'huh, goodbye.' And after that I just go along each day happy and comfortable in the knowledge that I'm a racist and finding minoities to oppress.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 17, 2018 11:26 AM (70cRb)

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These people are so disgusting. They love to feel self pity at being oppressed, and they love to make other people try to feel like crap by setting themselves up as mind readers. They are the ones who are truly blind to the flaws in their own natures.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 11:35 AM (/qEW2)

39 Imagine if someone said that Obama should have his portrait be him coming out ~~of "the bush."~~

heh.

Posted by: JQ at February 17, 2018 11:36 AM (yD/Pf)

40 I am looking forward to Obama "coming out." It will prove me right.

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 11:37 AM (16bxt)

41 Exactly Willow. Lefties ae all about 'you cant on you own so depend on government' and sio lefties must control goveremt and thus the people. All of what makes them individuals.Their minds, thoughts and spirit. that's why they want to keep them lumped into groups and group think. You control large swaths easily. Like heading schools of fish into nets.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 17, 2018 11:37 AM (70cRb)

42 31
Imagine if someone said that Obama should have his portrait be him coming out of "the bush."
Posted by: dagny

NO, I SAID THAT WE NEED TO STAY OUT OF THE BUSHES!

Posted by: Rev. Jesse Jackson at February 17, 2018 11:37 AM (RvXu3)

43 6 Sitting here in Phoenix now waiting for my connection to JFK. Oh by the way, did I mention that I hate waiting in airports."

Phoenix has got a damned nice one now - I remember back in the 60's, when it was still just a terminal left over from the WW2 era transit station for military cross country flights.

Worst - absolute worst - wait I ever had was in Albuquerque, after a Fiesta Bowl I went to. I flew out very late on Jan 2nd, knew I would have about a 5 hour wait in the terminal for my connecting flight to DFW - but no one told me, Albuquerque terminals close at midnight, and here were about 15 of us, at the gate, all booked on the next flight in 5 hours, and here comes Airport Security to boot us all out and tell us we had to go sit in the main lobby til 5 am when then they re-opened. And it had no heat.

I remember pulling together some chairs which didn't really work and pulling an old coat over my face from my bag to try and sleep, and then when the first workers started filtering in at 5, I'm sure they all thought I was some homeless bum that had just straggled in out of the cold, since that's what I looked like.

and as soon as I got home after laying all night in a cold cold terminal, i came down with terrible bronchitis that lasted 6 weeks. Yeah, that trip still pisses me off. No More Connecting Flights!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2018 11:38 AM (k1TUh)

44 "Herding" damn. But the Willo said "sentient human DULT" which I found amusing.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 17, 2018 11:39 AM (70cRb)

45 Imagine if someone said that Obama should have his portrait be him coming out of "the bush."

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 11:32 AM (16bxt)

I thought of maybe his painting should of had a little Kenyan Kazuri Beads bracelet or something.

Posted by: Colin at February 17, 2018 11:39 AM (4zmgP)

46 for a complete list for smokers at airports: airportsmokers.com

nice database they made there.

Posted by: KWDreaming at February 17, 2018 11:40 AM (mBmTz)

47 What I didn't like about the Obama portrait besides all the oblivious stuff is that he chose to have himself portrayed like it was a casual Friday workday.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:41 AM (2DOZq)

48 I wish I could go smoke in an airport, but alas, no trips for a while.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 11:42 AM (DAdSz)

49 Obvious = Oblivious

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:42 AM (2DOZq)

50 Bob, they try to convince us to be tribal to protect our family. I hope WE as a people are able to combat their ideas. It's really difficult to combat ideas that make everyone feel vulnerable.

I actually have no idea how to convince everyone that falls for this , Of their own value. Because of their personal ethic.

it's easy to say 'i'm so ripped off in life, because, that thing hurt me'

Posted by: willow at February 17, 2018 11:43 AM (Z8j2x)

51 #37 Black Panther the comicbook started several years before the Black Panthers terrorist group.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2018 11:43 AM (ewxPW)

52 Heh Obamas portrait looks like a poorly photoshopped cartoon. Moochelles is worse.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 11:43 AM (DAdSz)

53 I'd rather have Obama come in.

Posted by: Shep Smith at February 17, 2018 11:43 AM (3BFzK)

54 I'm going to wait to see black panther until I'm channel surfing one Sunday morning in distant future and I happen upon it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 17, 2018 11:45 AM (3BFzK)

55 i guess i'm trying to say, they use human frailty and fear, to undermine the whole Idea of America.

and it's working

Posted by: willow at February 17, 2018 11:45 AM (Z8j2x)

56 Elite of the world unite! We have nothing to gain, but social status!

Posted by: The Elite at February 17, 2018 11:45 AM (rHGeg)

57 When I smoked many yeas ago I was living in Albuquerque. I lit up at an infomal meeting and everyone jumped on my ass and someone opened a window. I knew these assholes pretty well and said "yeah, and if I fired up a joint in here every one of you would be saying "shut the window man! You're gonna let the smoke out!" F*ck you.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 17, 2018 11:45 AM (70cRb)

58 @43. Dontcha hate when that happens? Back in January, I had a flight out of KC to GSP connecting in Dallas/Ft Worth. The layover was 45 minutes. My flight out of KC was delayed an hour, so my layover ended up being over 6 hours.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 17, 2018 11:46 AM (kVoIs)

59 #37 Black Panther the comicbook started several years before the Black Panthers terrorist group.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2018 11:43 AM (ewxPW)

So there actually was a black superhero that existed before I was fucking born? Shit, they made it sound like they finally got one in spite of racist whitey.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 11:47 AM (aMlLZ)

60 Good observation about the modern upper class left deriving from Mencken - I like to quote Mencken, I even like to read him in short spurts, and we have a Mencken quote on top of this blog - BUT - even those of us who like him should never let ourselves forget that deep down, Mencken hated People, and he especially hated Common People. Mencken hated America, he did, and his only justification was that he hated every other country too. Mencken hated blacks, and his only justification was that he hated arabs and chinese and everyone other ethnic group on the world just as much. There's plenty of writings of his that would make David Duke blush.

He hated everyone, and never tired of verbalizing that hatred. When someone asked him "why do you live in the US if you hate it so much?" Mencken simply replied "Why do men go to zoos?"

He is the perfect examplar of the snotty left's current mindset. And just like him, they despise real democracy, and they hate the United States.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2018 11:48 AM (k1TUh)

61 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2018 11:38 AM (k1TUh)

We feel your pain, Tom, sometimes our private jets have to stop for refueling. It's the worst, you have to wait around while watching those ugly peasants refuel your magnificent private jets with their filthy hands...ugh!

Posted by: The Elite at February 17, 2018 11:49 AM (rHGeg)

62 Is that some gay golfer from the Olympics?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 11:50 AM (ks6bw)

63 Yeah, Berserker. I don't know the character's history or of the 'book'; I read it in a comment somewhere. Probably at Insty's.

Probably pushing that reaction because they're modern lefties and the character wasn't all that popular I assume.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2018 11:50 AM (ewxPW)

64 "yeah, and if I fired up a joint in here every one of you would be saying "shut the window man! You're gonna let the smoke out!"

Oh, lol! No shit...

Interchange the words "joint" and "cigarette" or "marijuana" and "tobacco" and see what the propaganda then becomes.

P.S. Do the stoners pay extra 'smoker' insurance premiums yet?

Posted by: JQ at February 17, 2018 11:50 AM (yD/Pf)

65 wouldn't go to a movie if i had a free pass. all hollywood cranks out is shit. they won't have to worry about me interrupting their black super hero. i'm racist that way.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 17, 2018 11:51 AM (KP5rU)

66 Mencken is our hero!

Posted by: The Elite at February 17, 2018 11:51 AM (rHGeg)

67 So Wiki says Black Panther debuted in 1966. I think that was pretty bold for a comic for that time.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 11:51 AM (DAdSz)

68 "57 When I smoked many yeas ago I was living in Albuquerque. I lit up at an infomal meeting and everyone jumped on my ass and someone opened a window. I knew these assholes pretty well and said "yeah, and if I fired up a joint in here every one of you would be saying "shut the window man! You're gonna let the smoke out!" F*ck you."

I remember for a while in Marin County, north of San Fran, it was illegal to smoke tobacco cigarettes in one side of a duplex, because second hand smoke might seep through the walls and annoy the nosy neighbor. But at the SAME TIME marijuana was totally decriminalized in that county, and people weren't allowed to make any complaint calls about that at all.

So I guess you could smoke as many cigarettes as you wanted as long as you covered up the smell by burning some mary jane at the same time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2018 11:51 AM (k1TUh)

69 P.S. Do the stoners pay extra 'smoker' insurance premiums yet?

Posted by: JQ at February 17, 2018 11:50 AM (yD/Pf)

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There should be an adder for car insurance too.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 17, 2018 11:51 AM (3BFzK)

70 We don't hate democracy, we just think we can run things better than those filthy, stupid peasants!

Posted by: The Elite at February 17, 2018 11:53 AM (rHGeg)

71 50 Bob, they try to convince us to be tribal to protect our family. I hope WE as a people are able to combat their ideas. It's really difficult to combat ideas that make everyone feel vulnerable.

I actually have no idea how to convince everyone that falls for this , Of their own value. Because of their personal ethic.

it's easy to say 'i'm so ripped off in life, because, that thing hurt me'
Posted by: willow at February 17, 2018 11:43 AM (Z8j2x)

Maybe i was like that at some time. I dont' really remember. But I never thought that bad things happening to me as the end of it ad some rally bad shit happened. Some of my on doing I realize in hindsight and well others because life is a crapshoot. "This too shall end". Dont get too comfortable either. "Be nice to the people on the way up because the the same people you meet on the way down." on and on. We can take action, then God takes over. When i think of all the the moves I made in life to finally be in the right place to meet Heidi, i realize Gods hand in all we do. I went to several different states, kissed a lot of toads and took a job at a place where she would one day fly into Tampa from MN. Gees. Amazing. And I can go on and on. The old lead to the bad and visa versa.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 17, 2018 11:54 AM (70cRb)

72 The good led to bad. gees. Cawfee.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 17, 2018 11:54 AM (70cRb)

73 It's not that he is black why I'm not interested in seeing Black Panther. It's that I prefer my super heroes to be American. Sorry I guess I'm jingoistic .

Though I understand why they made him African when the comic book character was created.

As I've said before , if Iron Man was French , I wouldn't be interested in it in the least.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:54 AM (2DOZq)

74 57 When I smoked many yeas ago I was living in Albuquerque. I lit up at an infomal meeting and everyone jumped on my ass and someone opened a window. I knew these assholes pretty well and said "yeah, and if I fired up a joint in here every one of you would be saying "shut the window man! You're gonna let the smoke out!" F*ck you.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 17, 2018 11:45 AM (70cRb)

Yep, zombie had something to say about that awhile ago. It's about the counterculture taking over and punishing the "square" culture.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2018 11:56 AM (sdi6R)

75 71>> i realize Gods hand in all we do.
Word

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 11:56 AM (DAdSz)

76 As I've said before , if Iron Man was French , I wouldn't be interested in it in the least.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:54 AM (2DOZq)

Why should we even care?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 11:57 AM (y87Qq)

77 Obama got the painting he deserved.

It looks like it should be painted on the side of a building on Malcolm X Blvd.
Posted by: tu3031 at February 17, 2018 11:29 AM (O5Q3r)

Or the side of a railroad boxcar.

Posted by: Soona at February 17, 2018 11:57 AM (Fs5vw)

78 67 So Wiki says Black Panther debuted in 1966. I think that was pretty bold for a comic for that time.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 11:51 AM (DAdSz)

Black Panther Party started in 1966 also . Coincidence?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:57 AM (2DOZq)

79 I can see it now: people rolling their cigarettes, perhaps just a tad sloppily...

"Relax, man, it's just a joint."

Posted by: JQ at February 17, 2018 11:57 AM (yD/Pf)

80 As I've said before , if Iron Man was French , I wouldn't be interested in it in the least.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:54 AM (2DOZq)

Je suis l'homme de fer!

Posted by: Antoine Stark at February 17, 2018 11:57 AM (rHGeg)

81 I think Obama's portrait should have been rendered as he originally wanted: in day glo on black velvet, with big sad eyes.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 17, 2018 11:59 AM (t5m5e)

82 The Victim mindset is incredibly self destructive, and it is a crime the way our educational establishment and media are pushing so many young people into that today.

When you have a healthy mindset, and something goes wrong, you think "hmm, maybe I did something wrong that I can change, let me modify my behavior and see if I get better results."

when you have a Victim's mindset and something, anything, bad happens to you, you say to yourself "OHMIGOD, they did that because they were OUT TO GET ME!!! and I want REVENGE!!! and I will not change my behavior ONE TINY BIT because that means THEY WOULD WIN!!!"

and it guarantees that the person believing that will double down on self destructive behavior every chance they get. Kinda like the entire dem party is doing today.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2018 11:59 AM (k1TUh)

83 76 As I've said before , if Iron Man was French , I wouldn't be interested in it in the least.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:54 AM (2DOZq)

Why should we even care?
Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 11:57 AM (y87Qq)

I didn't say we. I said I.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:59 AM (2DOZq)

84 Je suis l'homme de fer!

Posted by: Antoine Stark at February 17, 2018 11:57 AM (rHGeg)

Click!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 17, 2018 11:59 AM (gwPgz)

85 Black Panther Party started in 1966 also . Coincidence?
Hmm that part I didn* know. I thought they were 1968.
Off to check dates

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 11:59 AM (DAdSz)

86 >>>As I've said before , if Iron Man was French , I wouldn't be interested in it in the least.

What are your thoughts on Wolverine?
Or Superman?

Posted by: Ccqesg Zxusee Tin at February 17, 2018 11:59 AM (1vgk3)

87 I didn't say we. I said I.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:59 AM (2DOZq)

It...

...there...

...there was a song. Nevermind. Sorry.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 12:00 PM (y87Qq)

88 As I've said before , if Iron Man was French , I wouldn't be interested in it in the least.
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Or if Captain American were Canadian.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2018 12:00 PM (kufk0)

89 Big difference between people who smoke weed and stoners. Stoners are into the culture, they are weed-centric, it consumes every facet of their life.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 12:00 PM (aMlLZ)

90 I remember so-called 1950's "Middle Brow" culture with great fondness.

The high point of it to me was the condensed version in Readers' Digest of a witty book about the cognoscenti accompanying a cultural-exchange troupe performing Porgy and Bess in Soviet Union. Absolutely scathing indictment of everything about communist life, and cute little vignettes about all the professional-arts types. Ready?

"The Muses Are Heard." By, Truman Capote. Capitalist Culture Warrior.
Let me just tell you, times were different then.

I also met Van Cliburn once. I think he might have been a little ghey.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 12:00 PM (H5rtT)

91 80 As I've said before , if Iron Man was French , I wouldn't be interested in it in the least.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:54 AM
Je suis l'homme de fer!
Posted by: Antoine Stark at February 17, 2018 11:57 AM

I'll bet he would ride a unicycle, that he would call the Ferrous Wheel. While Juggling. With White Paint on his face and a striped shirt.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2018 12:01 PM (k1TUh)

92 So there actually was a black superhero that existed before I was fucking born? Shit, they made it sound like they finally got one in spite of racist whitey.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 11:47 AM (aMlLZ)

Wesley Snipes played some sort of super hero in a couple of movies, almost like a franchise.
But if it ain't Marvel or DC, I guess it didn't exist.
If I were him, I'd be pissed that my movies were so easily glossed over or forgotten.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 17, 2018 12:01 PM (z79tQ)

93 71>> i realize Gods hand in all we do.
Word
Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 11:56 AM (DAdSz)

see i think differently, i believe G-d sees, but let's us screw everything up. (see hitler stalin mussolini)

sometimes He sends Us another message (see Pharoah) a warning to all of us.

but where there are generations in between where It's Us . Not G-d but Us failing.

Posted by: willow at February 17, 2018 12:01 PM (Z8j2x)

94 never bought a comic book, never saw a comic book movie. yeah, i'm a dick.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 17, 2018 12:02 PM (KP5rU)

95
I didn't say we. I said I.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:59 AM (2DOZq)

He was referring to the lyrics of the song iron man from black Sabbath.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 12:02 PM (aMlLZ)

96 77
Obama got the painting he deserved.

Yes, but unfortunately, it will be hung in the Hall of Presidents, and will be a permanent raspberry to America.

Posted by: pep at February 17, 2018 12:02 PM (LAe3v)

97
"Or if Captain American were Canadian."

You're thinking about Dudley Do-Right.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2018 12:02 PM (k1TUh)

98 I*m from Chicago. Pops was CPD. I why it*s 1968, because that*s when shit blew up here. I was a mere tot, but that information was everywhere when I was a kidlet.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 12:03 PM (DAdSz)

99 Wesley Snipes played some sort of super hero in a couple of movies, almost like a franchise.
But if it ain't Marvel or DC, I guess it didn't exist.
If I were him, I'd be pissed that my movies were so easily glossed over or forgotten.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 17, 2018 12:01 PM (z79tQ)

No shit man. I was thinking that since this movie came out. What about the Blade series? Wesley snipes was pretty good in those. That was pretty super hero I thought.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 12:03 PM (aMlLZ)

100 Darn I miss smoking areas. Perfect small (d) democratic group. All walks of life, income levels, and education levels.

Probably why it had to be banned.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 17, 2018 12:04 PM (MIKMs)

101 Obama was a child of the 1960s. He represented the institutionalisation of a liberalism that had gone off the rails - and he further pushed it off the rails.

Barry is a child of hard core, radical, anti-American leftists. He's a commie shit head through and through

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 17, 2018 12:04 PM (SiINZ)

102 Those Elites should wear a special hat or something...so we'll know who they are.

Posted by: BignJames at February 17, 2018 12:05 PM (0+nbW)

103 Yes, but unfortunately, it will be hung in the Hall of Presidents, and will be a permanent raspberry to America.
Posted by: pep at February 17, 2018 12:02 PM (LAe3v)

Just like his legacy.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 17, 2018 12:05 PM (rHGeg)

104 LOL. Black Panther insufficiently gay. Link goes to BB.

https://tinyurl.com/ya4aznd9

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 12:06 PM (/qEW2)

105 OT: I saw the movie "Allied" last night. It's a pretty good WWII spy thriller starring Brad Pitt and Marion Cotillard. Best of all, no spandex, no fistfights, nothing but plot, dialogue, and good acting, IOW a movie for adults. I didn't think Hollywood could do that anymore.

Posted by: pep at February 17, 2018 12:06 PM (LAe3v)

106 95
I didn't say we. I said I.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:59 AM (2DOZq)

He was referring to the lyrics of the song iron man from black Sabbath.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 12:02 PM (aMlLZ)

I barely know the lyrics from songs I like much less music I don't listen to.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 12:06 PM (2DOZq)

107 Posted by: BignJames at February 17, 2018 12:05 PM (0+nbW)

Stupid peasant! Those are called crowns!

Posted by: The Elite at February 17, 2018 12:06 PM (rHGeg)

108 maybe i'm trying to state my personal thoughts studies. G-d is not a minutiae G-d, He see's but does not necessarily act . He's about the big picture.

Posted by: willow at February 17, 2018 12:06 PM (Z8j2x)

109 never bought a comic book, never saw a comic book movie. yeah, i'm a dick.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 17, 2018 12:02 PM (KP5rU)

I wasn't into comic books either. I was a compulsive reader, and comic books were too short. If it didn't last past a bowl of cereal, then fuck it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 12:06 PM (aMlLZ)

110 ICE is busy rounding up illegals in SoCal. Couldn't be nicer news to wake up to. Some illegals seem to be very concerned. Too bad.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 17, 2018 12:06 PM (r9UYA)

111 that limp penis at the top of the page is adorned with a nice cap.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 17, 2018 12:07 PM (KP5rU)

112 Willow I actually think you just see another side to God’s work. It’s not a sunshine and rainbows because of original sin. Sometimes people don’t believe in anything unless they see it real-time. Some people have to see evil to believe its real. People see miracles and the good of Gods work all the time, they just foolishly believe that’s its “them” that created it.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 12:07 PM (DAdSz)

113 I barely know the lyrics from songs I like much less music I don't listen to.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 12:06 PM (2DOZq)

The song iron man made me the asshole I am today. Seriously.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 12:08 PM (aMlLZ)

114 Stupid peasant! Those are called crowns!

Posted by: The Elite at February 17, 2018 12:06 PM (rHGeg)

oh.

Posted by: BignJames at February 17, 2018 12:08 PM (0+nbW)

115 From previous thread, just in case...

476
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2018 11:50 AM (Dbv1R)

Yeah,
Mr. Peon, I know this. I have gotten a few nice replys. I'm very
seldom, if ever on the ONT, and I know there is a lot of knowledge there
being a smart military blog and all. Hogmartin put me some knowledge,
and a few others, for which I am grateful. Thanks for your comment!

Posted by: sole summer at February 17, 2018 12:09 PM (JF4cG)

116 I barely know the lyrics from songs I like much less music I don't listen to.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 12:06 PM (2DOZq)

Well, it's not the most iconic line of the song anyway.

General rule of thumb: if I'm coming off as a condescending prick, odds are it's just terrible joke that fell completely flat.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 12:09 PM (y87Qq)

117 I haven't paid attention to comic books in 30 years or so, but I'm glad to see them doing well. It makes sense for the same reason there are Devo songs in Target commercials. My peers grew up, got jobs, then gained the ability to make those kinds of decisions.

I remember never really liking DC except for, IIRC, a daughter company named Vertigo (and I might be remembering that association totally incorrectly) and some of the Batman stuff at the time like "A Death in the Family."

Did everyone sort of either choose Marvel or DC, or was it just me?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 12:10 PM (ks6bw)

118 maybe i'm trying to state my personal thoughts studies. G-d is not a minutiae G-d, He see's but does not necessarily act . He's about the big picture.

Posted by: willow at February 17, 2018 12:06 PM (Z8j2x)

The wife always says, man plans, god laughs.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 12:10 PM (aMlLZ)

119 You guys might appreciate this:

My 14 year old just played a CYO basketball game and his team won for the first time this year. They were on fire against a better, taller team, and they had no subs. It was a high scoring game. My husband was keeping score. One of the boys (one of my favorites) was doing great. After the game, while we were taking pictures, they came over and said, "Mr. Dagny, you were keeping score, do you remember how many points I had?"

Without missing a beat, my husband said, "6." The whole team looked confused. My husband said, "Oh, I'm a socialist, so since your teammates didn't score as many as you, I redistributed your points so that everyone had the same number." He did eventually tell him his "capitalist" number.

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 12:11 PM (16bxt)

120 yo

Posted by: George at February 17, 2018 12:11 PM (3+AKN)

121
God simply says "Do this in memory of me". We get involved in some terrible things because of the bane and benefit of man--free will.

We can't exist without it.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 17, 2018 12:11 PM (S/hVx)

122 Yes, but unfortunately, it will be hung in the Hall of Presidents, and will be a permanent raspberry to America.

I see that portrait and I think *im an asshole”
But not this one https://tinyurl.com/ly4rtt7

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 12:11 PM (DAdSz)

123 When did Little Green Footballs buy Hot Air? I am getting sick of HA's never Trump shit everyday.

Off my list.

Posted by: George at February 17, 2018 12:12 PM (3+AKN)

124 95
I didn't say we. I said I.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:59 AM (2DOZq)

He was referring to the lyrics of the song iron man from black Sabbath.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 12:02 PM (aMlLZ)

Just read the lyrics and the meaning behind the lyrics. Pretty deep and cool. Funny that it could have been called Iron Bloke .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 12:12 PM (2DOZq)

125 Big difference between people who smoke weed and stoners. Stoners are
into the culture, they are weed-centric, it consumes every facet of
their life.

Thanks for the clarification. I hadn't realized there was a difference.

Posted by: JQ at February 17, 2018 12:12 PM (yD/Pf)

126
We can't exist without it.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 17, 2018 12:11 PM (S/hVx)
We wouldn't exist without it. We would never have come into being, no "esse" without it, there would be no point.

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 12:13 PM (16bxt)

127 Timeline here: Founded October '66; violence started in late '67
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party

None of them moved to Cuba for some strange reason.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2018 12:13 PM (ewxPW)

128 18 maybe i'm trying to state my personal thoughts studies. G-d is not a minutiae G-d, He see's but does not necessarily act . He's about the big picture.

Posted by: willow at February 17, 2018 12:06 PM (Z8j2x)

The wife always says, man plans, god laughs.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 12:10 PM (aMlLZ)

If a man plans according to the will of God, God will consider it.

Posted by: Soona at February 17, 2018 12:14 PM (Fs5vw)

129 When did Little Green Footballs buy Hot Air? I am getting sick of HA's never Trump shit everyday.

Off my list.

Posted by: George at February 17, 2018 12:12 PM (3+AKN)
I dumped them around 2010

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 12:14 PM (16bxt)

130 Barry is a child of hard core, radical, anti-American leftists.
Yeah, who worked for banks!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2018 12:14 PM (ewxPW)

131 Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 12:09 PM (y87Qq)

We're at aos. I take no offense whether intentional or not. In my circle of brick and mortar friends, we do the same thing.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 12:16 PM (2DOZq)

132 Disney, the studio behind Black Panther, has also faced pressure as a petition urges the studio to donate 25 percent of Black Panther's profits to the black community.

This week, actress Vivica A. Fox expressed support for the petition, which has received over 6,000 signatures, and accuses the Walt Disney Company and Marvel of exploiting the black community through specific marketing in an attempt to make money.

========

Disney uses marketing in order to try to trick people into seeing their crappy movies so that they can make a profit! Horrible! They'd never resort to that trick with whites I'll bet, only blacks. It's like slavery never ended.

Here's a thought: what if the director, screenwriters, and actors all worked gratis. Then the studio could afford to give black audiences a discount. No need for a rebate "donating 25% to the black community" which probably means the money will go into some sleazy Clintonesque organization and never be seen by the actual community.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 12:17 PM (/qEW2)

133 http://bit.ly/2HoulDj
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U.S. Overtures to Hezbollah Suggest Internal Trump Admin Battle
Trump admin divided on crushing Hezbollah, bringing into political process

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 12:17 PM (y3aQB)

134 There is no time with God. Man has free will. It's hard to wrap your mind around that even a little bit.

I recommend CS Lewis' The Problem of Pain

I think it will explain it as best as it can be explained.

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 12:17 PM (16bxt)

135 25 Big difference between people who smoke weed and stoners. Stoners are
into the culture, they are weed-centric, it consumes every facet of
their life.

Thanks for the clarification. I hadn't realized there was a difference.
Posted by: JQ at February 17, 2018 12:12 PM (yD/Pf)

The thing is, is that I have never seen the difference. And I have known many pot smokers.

Posted by: Soona at February 17, 2018 12:18 PM (Fs5vw)

136 Even before HA went to Farcebook commenting only, I abandoned them as they only allowed some criticisms of Obama and not all, and censoring comments using e.g. the word "revolution".

Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2018 12:19 PM (ewxPW)

137 119
My husband was keeping score.

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 12:11 PM (16bxt)

As an aside, the printing company where I work manufactures scorebooks that we sell to sporting goods stores. I enjoy printing and binding them. It would be totally awesome if your husband used a scorebook that I made myself.

OK, it's probably not likely. There are a lot of different brands of scorebooks and we are a minor player in that market.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2018 12:19 PM (sdi6R)

138 108>> gotcha sister!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 12:19 PM (DAdSz)

139 Posted by: Soona at February 17, 2018 12:18 PM

My observation, as well.

Posted by: JQ at February 17, 2018 12:20 PM (yD/Pf)

140 133 http://bit.ly/2HoulDj
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U.S. Overtures to Hezbollah Suggest Internal Trump Admin Battle
Trump admin divided on crushing Hezbollah, bringing into political process
Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 12:17 PM (y3aQB)

Never forget: Fake news.

Posted by: Soona at February 17, 2018 12:20 PM (Fs5vw)

141 Disney, the studio behind Black Panther, has also faced pressure as a
petition urges the studio to donate 25 percent of Black Panther's
profits to the black community.

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I like that these people pretend Disney hasn't been forced to give billions in tax dollars to "the black community" over the last 100 years.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 12:21 PM (ks6bw)

142 Disney should just decree that anyone who is or identifies as black can see the movie for free!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2018 12:22 PM (kufk0)

143 So this happened: my wife responded to a text with I will be there. The other lady wrote back:

Thanks for your message. I'm driving, but I'll get back to you when I get off the road. No text is worth a life. It can wait.

Maybe some kind of automatic response? I don't know but it made me laugh.

Posted by: The Real Bruce at February 17, 2018 12:23 PM (aLzsz)

144 Maybe so rickl, IDK. I could never keep the score or the clock. My attention span isn't good enough. I can barely sit through a movie.

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 12:23 PM (16bxt)

145 Big difference between people who smoke weed and stoners. Stoners are
into the culture, they are weed-centric, it consumes every facet of
their life.

Thanks for the clarification. I hadn't realized there was a difference.
Posted by: JQ at February 17, 2018 12:12 PM (yD/Pf)

The thing is, is that I have never seen the difference. And I have known many pot smokers.

Posted by: Soona at February 17, 2018 12:18 PM (Fs5vw)

Major difference. I know very few people who don't smoke weed. They pass a joint around, then go about their business, they don't even talk about weed while passing a joint.

A stoner?? Forget it. You'll be hearing about the chemical makeup, and the perfect temperature, and the new random smoking device that burns it at this perfect temperature, and he'll probably have some trippy stoner music playing while telling you about his travels to different places he went to in order to score the "perfect high", etc etc etc

Big fucking difference.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 12:24 PM (aMlLZ)

146 143 That is an auto response you can set your phone to do. LOL. Like how it's preachy too.

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 12:24 PM (16bxt)

147 They are all about multiculturalism, except for the universality of their own attitudes. One thing they never reflect on is that they, too, are people living in a particular time or place.

One small consolation is that they never realize how ridiculous they will soon be, to just about everyone. The Obama portrait will soon be just like the prom pictures everyone's kids laugh at.

Posted by: George LeS at February 17, 2018 12:25 PM (+TcCF)

148 Dang. Since the '60s, $15 trillion (with a T) has been spent on welfare.

I'm guessing the number of "the poor" has stayed constant or increased.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 12:25 PM (ks6bw)

149 I like my Panthers the way I like my Floyd.

Posted by: Shep Smith at February 17, 2018 12:26 PM (/qEW2)

150 That is an auto response you can set your phone to do. LOL. Like how it's preachy too.

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 12:24 PM (16bxt)

Since you seem current on texting, Dagny, what is the significance of a text message containing nothing but a small black square?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2018 12:26 PM (Dbv1R)

151 Thanks for your message. I'm driving...

---

Yeah, an autoreply. I have one set up on my phone that activates any time the bluetooth connects to the car's system.

You can have it say whatever you want.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 12:26 PM (ks6bw)

152 148 the Left insists that welfare is just a brief period that people pass thru, not the generational linchpin it has become.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 12:26 PM (DAdSz)

153 I do want to watch Thanos brutally slaughter half of all these
characters that people have learned to like. That's assuming the movie
script follows original storyline.
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Half?

I have that series in a box somewhere, and I'm pretty sure the only superheroes that weren't dead at the end of issue 5 were the Silver Surfer and Adam Warlock (and the chick Amy Pond is playing, though she was on Thanos' side at that point).

Posted by: Methos at February 17, 2018 12:27 PM (XQvuQ)

154
Used to be a daily reader and occasional commenter at Hot Air when Malkin owned it. Ed Morrissey, who wrote Captains Quarters was at one time a decent read there.

Not long after Malkin sold her interest the blog did a change and I left.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 17, 2018 12:27 PM (S/hVx)

155 Maybe some kind of automatic response? I don't know but it made me laugh.

Posted by: The Real Bruce at February 17, 2018 12:23 PM

There is a voice to text app available for some Toyota models. My wifes car the incoming text appears on the center console display. With this app she could reply -- though if you've seen the ability of voice to text it probably wouldn't make much sense to the recipient.

Wife says: I can't reply right now.
Text says: Icon ripen the knot.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 17, 2018 12:27 PM (2FqvZ)

156 #143 #146 Hilarious, guys. [Generic not specific use of 'guys'.]

I wonder if self-driving cars won't be allowed to use automatic replying?

Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2018 12:27 PM (ewxPW)

157 studio to donate 25 percent of Black Panther's
profits to the black community.

What color that mouse.
Case closed.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 12:28 PM (H5rtT)

158 what is the significance of a text message containing nothing but a small black square?
Rep. Schiff wants to talk to you.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2018 12:29 PM (ewxPW)

159 That Siegel interview was very good, even if I might quibble with some of his historical points.

I do get tired of the use of the word "liberalism" where "Progressivism" is more accurate. Siegel notes that modern "liberalism" is exceedingly illiberal but doesn't address the problem of terminology.

Why do we persist in using the term? How in the world did 19th century liberalism, small L libertarianism, morph into its modern version? Did it really morph or was it just discarded and then picked up by the enemies of statism? Complex subject.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2018 12:29 PM (0jtPF)

160 Sitting here in Phoenix now waiting for my connection to JFK. Oh by the way, did I mention that I hate waiting in airports.
Posted by: Traveling Man at February 17, 2018 11:16 AM

We love the people waiting in airports.

Posted by: This. Is. CNN. at February 17, 2018 12:29 PM (DMUuz)

161 152 148 the Left insists that welfare is just a brief period that people pass thru, not the generational linchpin it has become.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 12:26 PM (DAdSz)

A brief multigenerational period.

Posted by: The Left at February 17, 2018 12:29 PM (rHGeg)

162 "Disney, the studio behind Black Panther, has also faced pressure as a
petition urges the studio to donate 25 percent of Black Panther's
profits to the black community."

We'll see how fast they make another one of those. Fucking retards.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 12:29 PM (aMlLZ)

163 "Disney, the studio behind Black Panther, has also faced pressure as a

petition urges the studio to donate 25 percent of Black Panther's

profits to the black community.
"

Why would they resist this? The company is run by liberals, like most of the entertainment industry. You would think they would enthusiastically support this new form of reparations.

Or is it reparations for thee, not for me?

Posted by: Ripley at February 17, 2018 12:33 PM (MxEKc)

164 the Left insists that welfare is just a brief period that people pass thru, not the generational linchpin it has become.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 12:26 PM (DAdSz)

A brief multigenerational period.
Posted by: The Left at February 17, 2018 12:29 PM (rHGeg)

because , get this,, they told those they could never Ever succeed Unless the left won Because of ___ well we know this answer leftist strategy du jour.

Posted by: willow at February 17, 2018 12:33 PM (Z8j2x)

165 Since you seem current on texting, Dagny, what is the significance of a text message containing nothing but a small black square?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2018 12:26 PM (Dbv1R)

Unicode character (usually emoji) that your phone doesn't support.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 12:34 PM (M4Tk5)

166 159 I do get tired of the use of the word "liberalism" where "Progressivism" is more accurate. Siegel notes that modern "liberalism" is exceedingly illiberal but doesn't address the problem of terminology.

Why do we persist in using the term?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2018 12:29 PM (0jtPF)

THIS. It grates on me every time someone misuses the term "liberal" when "leftist" would be appropriate.

Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 17, 2018 12:34 PM (NL6wI)

167 What I didn't like about the Obama portrait besides all the oblivious stuff is that he chose to have himself portrayed like it was a casual Friday workday.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2018 11:41 AM (2DOZq)

It is a typical liberal reversal of truth. They say Trump doesn't deserve to be president because he is unpresidential.

This painting of Obama is about as unpresidential as one can get without hiring Dali to paint you.

Posted by: Bill R. at February 17, 2018 12:34 PM (IuYIh)

168 Margarita, that is why I no longer call them "liberals." I'm liberal; they're leftists.

In fact, they are totalitarian leftists.

Posted by: Emmie, not dead and not tired of winning at February 17, 2018 12:34 PM (/A+Cl)

169 the Left insists that welfare is just a brief period that people pass thru, not the generational linchpin it has become.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 17, 2018 12:26 PM (DAdSz)

A brief multigenerational period.

Posted by: The Left at February 17, 2018 12:29 PM (rHGeg)
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Liberals say that to our faces, but that's not what they mean. What they want is a compliant nation of serfs who do whatever they are told to maintain their freebies. As I've gotten older, I've come to see that what liberals/elites/commies/socialists/whatever you want to call them are actually the opposite of "progressive"

They want to regress right back to feudalism, with us as their peasants and they as the aristocracy.

Posted by: Boots at February 17, 2018 12:35 PM (EBwPV)

170 just call them what they are in short 'Left'

Posted by: willow at February 17, 2018 12:35 PM (Z8j2x)

171 I have wanted a deHavilland-designed "Evangel" airplane ever since I saw it reviewed, as the best pot-smuggling plane ever, in High Times magazine.

It was made to be kit-built by missionary societies. Believe there is one flying example, in Iowa. You'll note Iowa is pretty thoroughly evangelized, so I assume the project was a total success.

You're telling me that Black Panther was created in 1966, even before the Black Panther party was founded -- and by Stan Lee, a Jew?
I want to see Ta-Nahisi Coates admit to that, on Tucker Carlson.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 12:36 PM (H5rtT)

172
Count me NOT among the pot fans. Don't like anything about it. When I was much younger and slightly more foolish I tried a joint.

That sick I don't wish to get ever again. Subsequent discussion over a period of time about why said that for some, alcohol and pot don't mix.

So naturally, free will took over and the 2nd time was stone sober. After I stopped being so sick that dying might have been an improvement I discovered that SOME just cannot handle the stuff. Never again.

No problem with others indulging, just please keep it away from me.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 17, 2018 12:36 PM (S/hVx)

173 I have completely stopped using the word liberal in any way political, using it only to describe the amount of Irish added to my coffee, or the application of hot fudge to my ice cream.

Now it's progressive or leftist or socialist or communist. Far more accurate.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at February 17, 2018 12:36 PM (IMacf)

174 I am looking forward to Obama "coming out." It will prove me right.

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 11:37 AM (16bxt)

More like mincing out. He should have done it with the painting. Said something like, This painting is as gay as I am

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 17, 2018 12:36 PM (SiINZ)

175
"Disney, the studio behind Black Panther, has also faced pressure as a
petition urges the studio to donate 25 percent of Black Panther's
profits to the black community."

Hah, hahah, hahaha, hahahahah...

Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at February 17, 2018 12:37 PM (Dbv1R)

176 166
THIS. It grates on me every time someone misuses the term "liberal" when "leftist" would be appropriate.
Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 17, 2018 12:34 PM (NL6wI)

Exactly. The word "liberal" originally had to do with "liberty". Leftists want to stamp out liberty By Any Means Necessary.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2018 12:37 PM (sdi6R)

177 Check NY Daily News cover tomorrow:

http://bit.ly/2o6HoRY

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 17, 2018 12:37 PM (QfQ1Q)

178 130 Barry is a child of hard core, radical, anti-American leftists.
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Yeah, who worked for banks!
Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2018 12:14 PM (ewxPW)
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His grandmother worked for a bank. AFAIK, she's the only one in the family who had a real job. (No, Stanley Ann, being an occasional anthropologist doesn't count!)

This, of course, has been a typical pattern for commies going back to Engels, sucking off the (very capitalist) income of a family member while saving the world!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2018 12:37 PM (0jtPF)

179 I hate that Rush uses liberal all the time, drives me crazy, he needs to start calling them what they are, LEFTIST!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2018 12:38 PM (kufk0)

180 Disney, the studio behind Black Panther, has also faced pressure as a petition urges the studio to donate 25 percent of Black Panther's profits to the black community.

Can I get some money off of Captain America or Ironman? Not that I went and saw the movies but if they're giving out money based on the main characters skin color I figure why not me.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 17, 2018 12:39 PM (SiINZ)

181 I am looking forward to Obama "coming out." It will prove me right.

Posted by: dagny at February 17, 2018 11:37 AM (16bxt)

More like mincing out. He should have done it with the painting. Said something like, This painting is as gay as I am
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 17, 2018 12:36 PM (SiINZ)

Descending a grand staircase, kangaroo hands flapping gaily.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at February 17, 2018 12:39 PM (IMacf)

182 I hate that Rush uses liberal all the time, drives me crazy, he needs to start calling them what they are, LEFTIST!

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Parasites?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 17, 2018 12:39 PM (QfQ1Q)

183 Posted by: The Real Bruce at February 17, 2018 12:23 PM (aLzsz)

Some vehicles have autoreplies that you select when your phone is linked to the onboard hands free system.

Posted by: Bill R. at February 17, 2018 12:41 PM (IuYIh)

184 I hate that Rush uses liberal all the time, drives me crazy, he needs to start calling them what they are, LEFTIST!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2018 12:38 PM (kufk0)

A week or so ago, Don Jr. called them commies and of course the MFM had a fit over it. But commies or lefties works much better

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 17, 2018 12:41 PM (SiINZ)

185
What are your thoughts on Wolverine?

Or Superman?
Posted by: Ccqesg Zxusee Tin at February 17, 2018 11:59 AM (1vgk3)

Jaime Logan, el Lobezno.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2018 12:41 PM (2K6fY)

186 But commies or lefties works much better

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 17, 2018 12:41 PM (SiINZ)
commiecrats, demunists, obamunists.They are the options for those offended by the term commie.

Posted by: kallisto at February 17, 2018 12:42 PM (Iz8Py)

187 the Left insists that welfare is just a brief period that people pass thru, not the generational linchpin it has become.

---

It's just job security for them. The "poor" can't be fixed without putting millions of social workers (and university programs, and publishers, etc.), homeless shelters, grant-receiving whatevers, trickle-down state and local welfare program employees, and all the rest out of work.

They NEED poor people. You can't expect them to cook the goose that lays the golden eggs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 12:42 PM (ks6bw)

188
His grandmother worked for a bank. AFAIK, she's the only one in the family who had a real job. (No, Stanley Ann, being an occasional anthropologist doesn't count!)

She didn't just work for a bank she was one of the senior executives at the bank.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 17, 2018 12:43 PM (lKyWE)

189 I hate that Rush uses liberal all the time, drives me crazy, he needs to start calling them what they are, LEFTIST!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 17, 2018 12:38 PM (kufk0)

A week or so ago, Don Jr. called them commies and of course the MFM had a fit over it. But commies or lefties works much better

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 17, 2018 12:41 PM (SiINZ)

I like calling them anti American communist scumbags, but that's probably a little too long.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 12:44 PM (aMlLZ)

190 I spose functional alcoholics aren't alcoholics?

Posted by: MAxIE, mentioned in dispatches at February 17, 2018 12:44 PM (9TR2V)

191 I really don't think its that the Elites are rebelling against the Masses... I think its they believe they know better.

Problem is, that their entire philosophy is based on a number of flawed premises.

1. That we are not animals. That intellect can completely overcome a couple million years of evolution.

2. That you can reprogram people away from natural inclinations without consequence...

3. That Social Pressure can be used to completely control people... and there will be no backlash.

4. That Man is an inherently rational creature.. and they are the most rational, ergo should be in charge.

These premises are all flawed at an existential level... yet because they have managed to force their philosophy onto us... most people are unhappy.

Just like when you base a Geometric Proof on a flawed premise... it can look good but be wrong...

A Society based on flawed premises will fail, because the people are unhappy...

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 12:45 PM (NgKpN)

192 In the big picture, true Americans are the buffer that keeps the elites from enslaving the poor. We're in the way of their plans.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 17, 2018 12:46 PM (aMlLZ)

193
I hate that Rush uses liberal all the time, drives me crazy, he needs to start calling them what they are, LEFTIST!

No iPhone for you! By the way, folks, have I told you yet about how awesome the new iPhone is. Folks, do not doubt me on this. Apple products are the very best. Also -- what? What are saying, Mr Snerdly? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Snerdly was waving his arms all around and it was distracting. Where was I? Folks, you have got to try this new iPhone....

Posted by: El Rushbot at February 17, 2018 12:46 PM (EzdLW)

194 Some vehicles have autoreplies that you select when your phone is linked to the onboard hands free system.

Posted by: Bill R. at February 17, 2018 12:41 PM (IuYIh)

It can become annoying:
"This is Jenny's 2018 BMW 336i speaking. She can't come to the phone right now, as she is totally engrossd in driving me, her wonderful 2018 BMW 336i, with my heated leather seats, and my heated, hand-stitched leather steering wheel. You would be engrossed, too, if you had a wonderful 2018 BMW 336i like Jenny does. See your friendly BMW dealer today."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2018 12:47 PM (Dbv1R)

195 This probably should go in the book thread, but I'll be at my part time gig tomorrow, so here goes:

Brotopia is a book that chronicles the misogynistic Silicon Valley culture. The author pulls back the curtain to reveal subordinate females required to attend sex parties where they are plied with drugs and expected to "perform" in front of the party guests. The partygoers include wives of upper management types.

They are all one sick depraved nihilistic band of miscreants. Or possible alien lizard spawn.

Posted by: kallisto at February 17, 2018 12:48 PM (Iz8Py)

196 I admit I thought the white grandpa worked for a bank too but it was only typical granny?

And I thought Dunham was working for a bank when she got cancer and subsequently died. During the Obamacare "debate" when Obama made it sound like his impoverished white mama had no insurance, I recall reading that it was a bank employing her and she did have insurance but it wasn't paying for everything "free" that she wanted.

Still, one is good enough for me to show the hypocrisy.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2018 12:49 PM (ewxPW)

197 @ 192

Think there needs to be a distinction made between Americans and citizens who just live in OUR country.

What do you think?

Posted by: irongrampa at February 17, 2018 12:49 PM (S/hVx)

198
Disney, the studio behind Black Panther, has also faced pressure as a petition urges the studio to donate 25 percent of Black Panther's profits to the black community.
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Can I get some money off of Captain America or Ironman? Not that I went and saw the movies but if they're giving out money based on the main characters skin color I figure why not me.

Who gets Hulk money?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2018 12:50 PM (IqV8l)

199 Who gets Hulk money?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2018 12:50 PM (IqV8l)

It ain't easy being green, you know.

Posted by: Kermit at February 17, 2018 12:51 PM (Dbv1R)

200 198
Disney, the studio behind Black Panther, has also faced pressure as a petition urges the studio to donate 25 percent of Black Panther's profits to the black community.
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Can I get some money off of Captain America or Ironman? Not that I went and saw the movies but if they're giving out money based on the main characters skin color I figure why not me.

Who gets Hulk money?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2018 12:50 PM (IqV8l)

Groot Money?

Posted by: The Ficus at February 17, 2018 12:51 PM (NgKpN)

201 What I didn't like about the Obama portrait besides all the oblivious
stuff is that he chose to have himself portrayed like it was a casual
Friday workday.

It makes him look the non serious, lazy clown that he was. In the future, people will compare it with the other presidential portraits and say, "What the fuck was with this guy?"

Posted by: tu3031 at February 17, 2018 12:52 PM (O5Q3r)

202 The gardening thread is up. With eagles.
You can hang around here, too, if you want to.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 17, 2018 12:52 PM (BVQ+1)

203 And, yes, I know she (they?) were executive types and not e.g. tellers that's pretty obvious as he went to a swanky private school in Hawaii and not a mere public school.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2018 12:52 PM (ewxPW)

204
The gardening thread is up. With eagles.

More comfortable with turkeys.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2018 12:54 PM (IqV8l)

205 Who gets Hulk money?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2018 12:50 PM (IqV8l)

The Irish

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 17, 2018 12:54 PM (SiINZ)

206 Speaking of stupid liberals: J.J. Abrams has said in a recent interview that anyone who didn't like The Last Jedi is threatened by female characters.

Way to stir that pot Abrams.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 17, 2018 12:55 PM (6n332)

207
It makes him look the non serious, lazy clown that he was. In the future, people will compare it with the other presidential portraits and say, "What the fuck was with this guy?"
Posted by: tu3031 at February 17, 2018 12:52 PM (O5Q3r)

Its a Giant Middle Finger to the Traditions and History of the United States...

You are correct... it shows EXACTLY who he is...

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 12:55 PM (NgKpN)

208
Why do we persist in using the term? How in the
world did 19th century liberalism, small L libertarianism, morph into
its modern version? Did it really morph or was it just discarded and
then picked up by the enemies of statism? Complex subject.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2018 12:29 PM (0jtPF)

It was intentionally taken because the term "Socialism" was poorly considered by Americans in the 1800s.
When there was a pushback on this, the actual liberals, the classic or Jeffersonians were branded rugged individuals and unconcerned about the fate of other, less capable members of society.

Socialism at its roots is an attempt to address economic issues by changing society so that inequality can be automatically resolved (or ignored).
It moved from economic inequality to social inequality in the last 50 years, and appears to be moving on to some bizarre 'equality of experience' mindset.

(Granted, that is because it has proven incapable of reaching economic or social equality in the last 150 years, except for the equality found in a mass grave)

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2018 12:56 PM (2K6fY)

209 See y'all later.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2018 12:57 PM (ewxPW)

210 Siegel is interesting with broad scope, but still an old Democrat, so mostly "commie" when it comes down to it. imo Good read though. thx

I used to think the "crack in time" was in the 60's, especially with JFK, MLK and Vietnam, with the Beatles pushing the drug culture and others going even more acid trip Woodstock open sex commie.

But JFK was killed after promising to take down the (already in control) CIA and the secret society of criminals that ran media and more. Orwell, himself a socialist of the less aggressive sort as I understand it, wrote clearly (1984) of the more forceful socialist (communist) shortly after WW2.

But maybe we should look back at least another century to the 1860s with Lincoln trampling state rights and our constitution after he had read up on the socialist movement/revolution in Europe around 1848. In many ways we should be rethinkin' Lincoln.

There is an arrogance of the NY/DC coastal elite, but the root is raw greed and criminal syndicates. Their sales pitch to the rank and file is to assure the "liberal" sheep they are superior to the "deplorable and irredeemable", superior to we "xenophobic racists" that are patriots.

It's a cheap trick, a pat on the head before the slaughter. The left never wins the white vote nationally, they win every demo' of the "minorities" by always promising to steal from (racist, patriarchal, unfairly rich) whitey and give to the depraved and deprived -- the protected race, ethnicity, whatever agitprop group is at hand.

It has ALWAYS been Democrats that play to the philistines' most base instincts, as Obama's artist said "it is a play on the kill whitey thing". Our nation is a living people with heritage, not an academic theory of control.

the end ... time to plant my tomatoes.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 17, 2018 01:00 PM (bT8Z4)

211 Is dat da reel blck panter??..wif pressed seams!

Posted by: saf at February 17, 2018 01:00 PM (cS/ge)

212 I sure hope that the Macedonian Content Farmers in the gardening thread can grow me a new neck.

Posted by: Adam Schitt at February 17, 2018 01:02 PM (Tyii7)

213 Who gets Hulk money?

Terry Gene Bollea and his family. Hulkamania money.

Posted by: Hands at February 17, 2018 01:03 PM (EzdLW)

214 illiniwek, I believe Orwell considered himself an anarchist-socialist, and had very little love for the Communists, especially after the Spanish Civil war

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2018 01:04 PM (2K6fY)

215 The Epitaph of Obama's Presidency is essentially "smell 'ya later".

That silly portrait is the icing on the cake. To the degree future generations even remember Obama as anything other than a footnote, they will remember him as at best an aberration and at worst an abject failure.

Can we all stop pretending "liberalism" is a plausible political ideology now?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 17, 2018 01:04 PM (jnLXM)

216 Although I think Siegel yuuuugely inflates the influence of Mencken on modern elitism, it is useful to remember that hatred of the average man is not confined to the conventional Left.

Siegel notes that Mencken fell out of favor with Progressives when he turned on FDR and the New Deal.
But in the second half of the 20th century he (his zombie, i.e.) enjoyed a big resurgence in popularity among --- libertarians.

Long before the Libertarians devolved into a 2-issue party --- drugs and open borders --- there was something "off" about them. Their criticism of Progressive statism has been excellent, but they have always emitted a snotty odor.

I think that many libertarians, like leftists, have contempt for organic, ancient customs and tradition, and especially for (good) religion. Like leftists, they tend to see the world from a faculty-lounge perspective that often has no relation to the way that human beings actually operate in the world.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2018 01:07 PM (0jtPF)

217 I do get tired of the use of the word "liberalism" where "Progressivism" is more accurate. Siegel notes that modern "liberalism" is exceedingly illiberal but doesn't address the problem of terminology.

Why do we persist in using the term? How in the world did 19th century liberalism, small L libertarianism, morph into its modern version? Did it really morph or was it just discarded and then picked up by the enemies of statism? Complex subject.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2018 12:29 PM (0jtPF)

========

I'm guessing they just hijacked the term, the way they hijack institutions - it seems to be how they work. That said, it may be best just to acknowledge the term is lost and use it accordingly. I don't think people are for the most part interested in etymology - they hear "liberal" and they know it's "big government, pro-gay, pro-abortion, open borders". Of course, there's the Dalrymple quote from a few days ago. How much do you allow them to bully you in regards to limiting your use of language?

Posted by: Shep Smith at February 17, 2018 01:07 PM (/qEW2)

218 Look at that top photo and imagine it's Donald Trump instead of Obama. Wearing a white shirt and cap. And holding up three fingers in the shape of a W.

Ruh-roh, you know what that would mean?

Posted by: Hands at February 17, 2018 01:08 PM (EzdLW)

219 I prefer the word commie

Posted by: Under Fire at February 17, 2018 01:08 PM (r9UYA)

220 Siegel wrote a piece about the liberal influence of H.G. Wells, too. In City Journal. Pretty blunt. "The Godfather of American Liberalism".

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 17, 2018 01:09 PM (BVQ+1)

221 It's a good thing I wasn't in the military. "Heads on a swivel" could have been problematic.

Posted by: Adam Schitt at February 17, 2018 01:09 PM (Tyii7)

222 This site is NSFW and is about anime, Asian news, etc, but it has a good rundown on the Obama painting and the homosexual artist involved.

1) He puts sperms in all his paintings, like an 'Easter egg" to hunt for
2) He has a studio in China where workers help put out his works -- probably doing the photoshopped backgrounds
3) The quote ace noted a few days ago about "kill whitey"
4) His schtick of reposing old paintings with black people

Its a nice roundup of the oddities
https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2018/02/16/obama-sperm-portrait-made-in-china/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 01:10 PM (39g3+)

223 How long before that Obama pattern is available as actual, literal wallpaper?

I'll suggest vinyl weave, so it will hold up better in steamy bath houses...

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 01:11 PM (H5rtT)

224 96
77

Obama got the painting he deserved.

Yes, but unfortunately, it will be hung in the Hall of Presidents, and will be a permanent raspberry to America.

Posted by: pep at February 17, 2018 12:02 PM (LAe3v)

I wonder if Barky ever thought that, in 20 years, the portrait might just make him look like a giant douche and wish he had a portrit that made him look like a president not some douche trying and failing to redefine "presidental".
God, that fellow was smitten with himself. He just thought he was so scrumptious.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 17, 2018 01:13 PM (7+qdf)

225 Oh shit yes HG Wells wasn't a "liberal influence." He was the bull goose.

Free-Lovin' it up with Madge Sanger.
He and Shaw "invented" Fabian Socialism.
No offense to actual Fabian. There is no Annette Socialism. Serfs Up?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 01:14 PM (H5rtT)

226 Kevin Durant and LeBron James' video on Uninterrupted covered a multitude of topics: being All-Stars, being rich black men and living under President Donald Trump. James has been a vocal critic of Trump in the past, and this was no different. "(Trump) doesn't give a f--- about people," James said, and Durant agreed with him.

Posted by: Shut up and dribble at February 17, 2018 01:15 PM (Tyii7)

227 201 ....In the future, people will compare it with the other presidential portraits and say, "What the fuck was with this guy?"
Posted by: tu3031 at February 17, 2018 12:52 PM (O5Q3r)
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One of the things that animated Obama from the beginning of his presidency is the belief that he is special, a ground-breaker and Lightbringer.
He just HAS to have a different sort of portrait, one that the rubes are too pathetic to understand!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2018 01:17 PM (0jtPF)

228 Groot Money?

Wooden nickels.

Posted by: doomed at February 17, 2018 01:17 PM (UW4Uc)

229 Terry Gene Bollea and his family. Hulkamania money. BROTHER!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 01:18 PM (y3aQB)

230 In the future, people will compare it with the other presidential portraits and say

Which is why I think its perfect for him. In a few decades when people have generally forgotten him, they'll see this kind of thing and go "what the???"

Obama: even more queer than you figured

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 01:22 PM (39g3+)

231 http://bit.ly/2GmFh2V
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'Grey's Anatomy' Star Ellen Pompeo Challenges Laura Ingraham to Fight Over LeBron James Comments
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What a Retarded Hollyweird TWAT

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 01:23 PM (y3aQB)

232 . . . the only portrait with a cuspidor bolted to the floor in front of it . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2018 01:23 PM (2K6fY)

233 Speaking of stupid liberals: J.J. Abrams has said in a recent interview that anyone who didn't like The Last Jedi is threatened by female characters.

Way to stir that pot Abrams.
---
Well that sure sounds like he understands the problem and will be fixing it in episode 9.

Posted by: Methos at February 17, 2018 01:27 PM (XQvuQ)

234 As I understand it, the very premise of Black Panther is somewhere in between risible and sad. There's this isolated, technologically advanced African nation that no one has ever heard about?

OK. They're not scampering around in g-strings, no, they're technologically advanced, just never got around to contacting anyone else. You know, the way technologically advanced nations do.

It's risible and sad in the same way, much like Al Sharpton's assertions that Africans invented mathematics that was stolen by "those Greek homos," after which the Africans inexplicably forgot everything they'd invented.

It's kind of like the 98 lb. weakling fantasizing about kicking the ass of the entire football team.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:28 PM (W62qG)

235 J.J. Abrams has said in a recent interview that anyone who didn't like The Last Jedi is threatened by female characters.

Nothing endears you to fans like insulting them and calling them names.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 01:29 PM (39g3+)

236 I wonder if Barky ever thought that, in 20 years, the portrait might just make him look like a giant douche and wish he had a portrit that made him look like a president not some douche trying and failing to redefine "presidental".
God, that fellow was smitten with himself. He just thought he was so scrumptious.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 17, 2018 01:13 PM (7+qdf)

OK, you've convinced me. The artist captured the essence of Obama.

Posted by: George LeS at February 17, 2018 01:31 PM (+TcCF)

237 Of course, there's the Dalrymple quote from a few days ago. How much do you allow them to bully you in regards to limiting your use of language?
Posted by: Shep Smith at February 17, 2018 01:07 PM (/qEW2)

Not at all, in my case. In fact, I go out of my way to use what they consider inflammatory language, just to make a point, and to release the pawl on the ratchet they've installed on language.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:31 PM (W62qG)

238 I wonder if Barky ever thought that, in 20 years, the portrait might just make him look like a giant douche and wish he had a portrit that made him look like a president not some douche trying and failing to redefine "presidental".
God, that fellow was smitten with himself. He just thought he was so scrumptious.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 17, 2018 01:13 PM (7+qdf)

In 20 years the National Gallery will probably have that portrait hanging in the mens' room. Assuming there still is a mens' room, of course.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:32 PM (W62qG)

239 As I understand it, the very premise of Black Panther is somewhere in between risible and sad. There's this isolated, technologically advanced African nation that no one has ever heard about?

There was a really big danger in the concept of this being the "we wuz kangs" thing with "here's how Africa would have been if honkeys hadn't ruined it all."

But from what I've read and heard about the movie, that's not where they went at all. They stayed true to a comic book sensibility; Africa is incidental to the story, its just a place where a meteor of super mineral landed, and they built the tech up from that. They were super isolationist and protected their nation with the tech, disguising and hiding it. There's no black supremacy or African myth making at all, its comic booky.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 01:33 PM (39g3+)

240 Of course, there's the Dalrymple quote from a few days ago. How much do you allow them to bully you in regards to limiting your use of language?
Posted by: Shep Smith at February 17, 2018 01:07 PM (/qEW2)

Not at all, in my case. In fact, I go out of my way to use what they consider inflammatory language, just to make a point, and to release the pawl on the ratchet they've installed on language.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

That's why I say to myself every day when I shave, you racist! Makes the rest of the day easier.

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 01:34 PM (o3NFc)

241 238 I wonder if Barky ever thought that, in 20 years, the portrait might just make him look like a giant douche and wish he had a portrit that made him look like a president not some douche trying and failing to redefine "presidental".
God, that fellow was smitten with himself. He just thought he was so scrumptious.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 17, 2018 01:13 PM (7+qdf)

In 20 years the National Gallery will probably have that portrait hanging in the mens' room. Assuming there still is a mens' room, of course.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:32 PM (W62qG)

Right over the glory hole.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 17, 2018 01:34 PM (NWiLs)

242 231 http://bit.ly/2GmFh2V
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'Grey's Anatomy' Star Ellen Pompeo Challenges Laura Ingraham to Fight Over LeBron James Comments
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What a Retarded Hollyweird TWAT
Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 01:23 PM (y3aQB)

Because that's what the intellectually superior do: physically fight to settle an issue. It's not at all a characteristic of those with low IQ.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:35 PM (W62qG)

243 Obama got the painting he deserved.

Yes, but unfortunately, it will be hung in the Hall of Presidents, and will be a permanent raspberry to America.

Posted by: pep at February 17, 2018 12:02 PM (LAe3v)

========

It's kind of poetic justice like the emperor's new clothes. His stupidity and narcissism doomed him to embarrassment even though that's the one thing he wanted to avoid. He just had to be different. "I gotta be me! No standing in an office. I will be floating against a backdrop of vegetation".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 01:35 PM (/qEW2)

244 239 As I understand it, the very premise of Black Panther is somewhere in between risible and sad. There's this isolated, technologically advanced African nation that no one has ever heard about?

There was a really big danger in the concept of this being the "we wuz kangs" thing with "here's how Africa would have been if honkeys hadn't ruined it all."

But from what I've read and heard about the movie, that's not where they went at all. They stayed true to a comic book sensibility; Africa is incidental to the story, its just a place where a meteor of super mineral landed, and they built the tech up from that. They were super isolationist and protected their nation with the tech, disguising and hiding it. There's no black supremacy or African myth making at all, its comic booky.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 01:33 PM (39g3+)

GREEK HOMOS STOLED OUR TECHNOLOGY!

Posted by: Rev. Al Sharpton at February 17, 2018 01:36 PM (NWiLs)

245 I want Trump to tweet: I want a wall like Black Panther has ...

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 01:36 PM (o3NFc)

246 But from what I've read and heard about the movie,
that's not where they went at all. They stayed true to a comic book
sensibility; Africa is incidental to the story, its just a place where a
meteor of super mineral landed, and they built the tech up from that.
They were super isolationist and protected their nation with the tech,
disguising and hiding it. There's no black supremacy or African myth
making at all, its comic booky.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 01:33 PM (39g3+)

In other words, magic.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2018 01:37 PM (Dbv1R)

247 There was a really big danger in the concept of this being the "we wuz kangs" thing with "here's how Africa would have been if honkeys hadn't ruined it all."

But from what I've read and heard about the movie, that's not where they went at all. They stayed true to a comic book sensibility; Africa is incidental to the story, its just a place where a meteor of super mineral landed, and they built the tech up from that. They were super isolationist and protected their nation with the tech, disguising and hiding it. There's no black supremacy or African myth making at all, its comic booky.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 01:33 PM (39g3+)

Ah, OK. I haven't seen it, and don't intend to, but was going by word of mouth and IMDB precis of the movie, which gave that impression.

Having said that, I suspect that the bruthas will take it as African myth making anyway, so my take, while ignorant, probably still has some validity.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:38 PM (W62qG)

248 The National Gallery had a portrait of Trump that was a photo from the late 80's of him tossing up an apple (the blue sky with clouds was like a nod to Magritte).

They needed to have a guard near it at all times. The guard was disgusted with people who tried to deface the portrait.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 01:39 PM (qJtVm)

249 J.J. Abrams has said in a recent interview that anyone who didn't like The Last Jedi is threatened by female characters.

Nothing endears you to fans like insulting them and calling them names.
---
I recently got into a spat with a leftist twat who simultaneously insisted
1. TLJ's hatred of men was all in my head
2. All the other white dudes like me who hated it are just whining because the movie didn't cater to us.
3. All us white dudes just need to get used to being dumped on so that other people can be catered to at our expense.
4. All us white dudes are going to see every new S(J)W disney movie anyway because star wars is our life and we just can't quit it.

A great deal of her argument sounded like corporate damage control boilerplate, so I rather expect this is how disney thinks about the situation.

Posted by: Methos at February 17, 2018 01:40 PM (XQvuQ)

250 I have a dream that one day we will turn away from the festering sore of our present culture, and once again exalt the traditional virtues - industry, decency, hard work, courage, loyalty, civility, modesty, patriotism, morality.

So far, not seeing it, but on my cheerier days think that perhaps it's necessary to hit bottom before that transformation can take place.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:42 PM (W62qG)

251 But maybe we should look back at least another century to the 1860s with Lincoln trampling state rights and our constitution after he had read up on the socialist movement/revolution in Europe around 1848. In many ways we should be rethinkin' Lincoln.

I'm willing to give Lincoln a pass on the political philosophy stuff, he was busy kicking my kin's ass. But, Teddy, embraced the big government, problem solver and led us into a Wilsonian night mare. I blame Teddy, and curse Wilson.

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 01:42 PM (o3NFc)

252 232 . . . the only portrait with a cuspidor bolted to the floor in front of it . . .
Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2018 01:23 PM (2K6fY)

*chew* *chew*

*spit*

*splat*

So, what's this cuspidor on the floor for?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 17, 2018 01:43 PM (jnLXM)

253 3. All us white dudes just need to get used to being dumped on so that other people can be catered to at our expense.

Literally.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:44 PM (W62qG)

254 If all the truth comes out, Obama may be remembered more for his constant support of our enemies and of massive drug running. Actual photos of him in orange in prison would be fitting also. His wallflower painting will be the least of his abominations.

That will take time, to make the public aware of what he really did to America, then they will demand it. Or so I can dream.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 17, 2018 01:44 PM (bT8Z4)

255 let me know when they make a movie with a lily white pickup driving superhero called "Klan"

It's called the real world and the name callers are just another problem in it.

Posted by: DaveA at February 17, 2018 01:44 PM (FhXTo)

256 232 . . . the only portrait with a cuspidor bolted to the floor in front of it . . .
Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2018 01:23 PM (2K6fY)

(but if a cuspidor BOLTED to the floor isn't a metaphor for Obama somehow, I don't know what is.)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 17, 2018 01:44 PM (jnLXM)

257 We joke about spitting on his portrait, but we don't. They actually deface the images they disapprove of.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 01:45 PM (qJtVm)

258 (but if a cuspidor BOLTED to the floor isn't a metaphor for Obama somehow, I don't know what is.)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 17, 2018 01:44 PM (jnLXM)

The cuspidor bolted to the floor is a work of art, entitled "Foresight."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:46 PM (W62qG)

259 I'm surprised Ta-Nehisi Coates is not the screenwriter. So no jokes about mayonnaise or gentrification to break the tension? Not worth going.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 01:48 PM (/qEW2)

260 So, let's say Laura Ingraham has her knee in the small of Pompeo's back, and both her thighs off the canvas, causing the Famous Actress to eat copious quantities of the mat. Compelling image, and some of you will BRB.

What happens then? Does Pompeo cry "Auntie" and then they get up and shake hands, and she vows never to ass-hat again? I rather think not.

OK it ain't happenin. My money was on Big Laura though, for the record.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 01:48 PM (H5rtT)

261 The cuspidor bolted to the floor is a work of art, entitled "Foresight."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:46 PM (W62qG)

Speaking of which, the same thought applies to liberals (e.g., Pelosi) saying a 40 foot wall will just motivate people to bring a 41 foot ladder.

OK, you climb to the top of a 40 foot wall with a rounded top to which you cannot attach a grappling or tie a rope or anything. You admire the view for a while. Then what?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:48 PM (W62qG)

262 grappling hook

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:49 PM (W62qG)

263 Here's an angle that needs explored (to reverse-Alinsky the leftists pushing Black Panther as agitprop, which they're doing):

Why'd this super-advanced secret nation of super-black people allow slavery to continue?

Posted by: doomed at February 17, 2018 01:49 PM (UW4Uc)

264 So far, not seeing it, but on my cheerier days think that perhaps it's necessary to hit bottom before that transformation can take place.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:42 PM (W62qG)

Your dream is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Live that way yourself. Hold those values.

When the children growing up now and in later generations are swimming in the muck and mire of a debauched and debased cesspool, they will eventually be desperate for a sane alternative.

Be that sane alternative. Be the example.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 17, 2018 01:50 PM (jnLXM)

265 If it didn't last past a bowl of cereal, then fuck it.

Please never invite us for breakfast.

Posted by: DaveA at February 17, 2018 01:51 PM (FhXTo)

266 Why'd this super-advanced secret nation of super-black people allow slavery to continue?
Posted by: doomed at February 17, 2018 01:49 PM (UW4Uc)

Looking up "circus", "monkey", and "ain't my" in my isiZulu/English dictionary....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 17, 2018 01:51 PM (jnLXM)

267 Well, I see that Lebron James and Kevin Durant have divine powers that allow them to see into the heart of every man and judge them righteous or wicked.

And those stupid Christians thought we had to wait till the Last Judgment to know and be known!
Now, if we want to know whether we or anyone else is saved, we can just ask Lebron and Kevin.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2018 01:51 PM (0jtPF)

268 I'm willing to give Lincoln a pass on the political philosophy stuff, he was busy kicking my kin's ass. But, Teddy, embraced the big government, problem solver and led us into a Wilsonian night mare. I blame Teddy, and curse Wilson.

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 01:42 PM (o3NFc)

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What if they could have been brought forward in time to see the Age of Obama? "No!!! I never meant that it should lead to this!" Like Victor Frankenstein realizing what he'd unleashed.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 01:53 PM (/qEW2)

269 259 I'm surprised Ta-Nehisi Coates is not the screenwriter. So no jokes about mayonnaise or gentrification to break the tension? Not worth going.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 01:48 PM (/qEW2)

The gentrification thing really irritates me. Whites moving into a ghetto, cleaning it up, improving property values, reducing crime, generally making it a nicer place to live - all bad. Very bad.

Blacks moving into a white neighborhood to get away from the toxic atmosphere of the ghetto, the squalor, the litter, the crime - that's A-OK.

Yet the result of the two is the same, an integrated neighborhood, just reached from opposite poles. How can anyone attack one and justify the other?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:54 PM (W62qG)

270 Because that's what the intellectually superior do: physically fight to settle an issue. It's not at all a characteristic of those with low IQ.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:35 PM (W62qG)

My money is on Laura.

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at February 17, 2018 01:54 PM (czkHE)

271 86.
Posted by: Ccqesg Zxusee Tin at February 17, 2018 11:59 AM (1vgk3)

Nice fruit ice cream desert cypher.

+1

Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 17, 2018 01:55 PM (kBuGL)

272 I have a 40-foot ladder. They're not all that common. More than once, when someone starts with the 41-foot thing, I show that ladder to them and ask if they'd like to climb it and allow me just one shot at the top. No takers yet.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 01:55 PM (H5rtT)

273 How can anyone attack one and justify the other?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:54 PM (W62qG)

Behold the power of advanced cognitive dissonance!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 17, 2018 01:56 PM (gwPgz)

274 >>>Well, I see that Lebron James and Kevin Durant have divine powers that allow them to see into the heart of every man and judge them righteous or wicked.

Whoa-oh here they come. Watch out, they'll judge your heart. Whoa-oh here they come. They're the mind readers (mind readers).

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 01:56 PM (/qEW2)

275 272 I have a 40-foot ladder. They're not all that common. More than once, when someone starts with the 41-foot thing, I show that ladder to them and ask if they'd like to climb it and allow me just one shot at the top. No takers yet.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 01:55 PM (H5rtT)

++

OMG, I'd be scared to death just looking at your ladder.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2018 01:57 PM (tcwn1)

276 Lebron James is the whiniest bitch in sports.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 17, 2018 01:57 PM (O5Q3r)

277 Who are these idiots thinking that a border wall is somehow required to be a hermetic enclosure, and if it isn't, it might as well not exist?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 17, 2018 01:58 PM (jnLXM)

278 What if they could have been brought forward in time to see the Age of
Obama? "No!!! I never meant that it should lead to this!" Like Victor
Frankenstein realizing what he'd unleashed.

Hmmph. You think you're pissed.

Posted by: Freerick Douglass at February 17, 2018 01:58 PM (H5rtT)

279
Because that's what the intellectually superior do: physically fight to settle an issue. It's not at all a characteristic of those with low IQ.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:35 PM (W62qG)

Sorry... but sometimes the intellectually superior understand that the ONLY way to shut up someone who is both Stupid, and Loud...

Is Physical... because your intellect tells you nothing else will work.

Sometimes the optimum solution IS to spank the Baby...

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 01:59 PM (NgKpN)

280 Wakanda is a nation of Obamas. Magic negroes.

Posted by: doomed at February 17, 2018 01:59 PM (UW4Uc)

281 How can anyone attack one and justify the other?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 01:54 PM (W62qG)

If the party required it, I could levitate right here in front of you.

"Dissonance"? Feh!

Feh, I say!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 17, 2018 01:59 PM (jnLXM)

282 I'm willing to give Lincoln a pass on the political philosophy stuff, he was busy kicking my kin's ass. But, Teddy, embraced the big government, problem solver and led us into a Wilsonian night mare. I blame Teddy, and curse Wilson.

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 01:42 PM (o3NFc)

========

What if they could have been brought forward in time to see the Age of Obama? "No!!! I never meant that it should lead to this!" Like Victor Frankenstein realizing what he'd unleashed.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear

Teddy would have been upset at how weak middle America was, Wilson being an absolute racist would have eaten a bullet.

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 01:59 PM (o3NFc)

283 :::pretends not to recognize Hall and Oates reference:::

Posted by: Ccqesg Zxusee Tin at February 17, 2018 02:00 PM (1vgk3)

284 Having said that, I suspect that the bruthas will take it as African myth making anyway, so my take, while ignorant, probably still has some validity.

Yeah and people will keep treating it as a Culturally Relevant Historical Moment (c) but its just a fun and well-acted movie, from what I've read and heard.

There are definitely some ethical issues with a super-advanced high tech nation ignoring the horrors around it, but apparently the entire film's plot is about how Wakanda should use its tech. The bad guy wants to arm up black people so they can violently revolt against the world, and the hero wants to use the tech to help cure diseases, feed people, etc.

Oh, and "Black Panther" as a character was introduced in July 1966 in New York City, 3 months before the political party organization was created by Huey Newton and Bobby Seale in Oakland, California. I suppose its conceivable that somehow Jewish writer Stan Lee and Jewish artist Jack Kirby could somehow have heard of the radical Californians working on the foundation of the group but its unlikely to an extreme.

Neither really make sense: black panthers are South American.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 02:00 PM (39g3+)

285 Who gets Hulk money?

The makers of purple spandex shorts obviously.

Posted by: DaveA at February 17, 2018 02:00 PM (FhXTo)

286 272 I have a 40-foot ladder. They're not all that common. More than once, when someone starts with the 41-foot thing, I show that ladder to them and ask if they'd like to climb it and allow me just one shot at the top. No takers yet.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 01:55 PM (H5rtT)

I thought that, too. Hell, I've been terrified to be at the top of a 20 foot ladder.

And as usual, liberals don't think things through. First, as you point out, a 40 foot ladder is no joke. Second, as I pointed out, getting down on the other side is no joke, either.

But last, but not least, let's say some people do manage to do all this. How many people have the stones to do all that? OK, so a few intrepid 20-something year old guys manage to do it. What are they, maybe 0.01% of the people crossing over now?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:01 PM (W62qG)

287
OK, you climb to the top of a 40 foot wall with a rounded top to which you cannot attach a grappling or tie a rope or anything. You admire the view for a while. Then what?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

No broken glass ...

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:01 PM (o3NFc)

288 Okay, total non sequitur and shallow to boot, but I see that some of my girls are here - is there such a thing as a liquid matte lipstick that looks good on women who are 29 and one week (give or take), or do I just give it up as a bad job?

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:02 PM (kNasr)

289 278
Hmmph. You think you're pissed.
Posted by: Frederick Douglass at February 17, 2018 01:58 PM (H5rtT)
-------------------------
Tell me about it.

Posted by: Booker T Washington at February 17, 2018 02:02 PM (0jtPF)

290 Grey's Anatomy' Star Ellen Pompeo Challenges Laura Ingraham to Fight Over LeBron James Comments

Pompeo grew up 2 streets over from me. My sister graduated high school with her. Not a big fan.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 17, 2018 02:03 PM (O5Q3r)

291
Speaking of which, the same thought applies to liberals (e.g., Pelosi) saying a 40 foot wall will just motivate people to bring a 41 foot ladder

She never stood in the hot Georgia sun and repeated after an NCO: All obstacles must be covered by observation and fire.

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:03 PM (o3NFc)

292 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:01 PM (W62qG)

and transporting a 40 ft ladder would not be easy either...

Its not like you could hide the dang thing...

Oh... and you would need TWO... or are they just supposed to jump off????

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 02:03 PM (NgKpN)

293 OMG, I'd be scared to death just looking at your ladder.

Posted by: washrivergal

Heh. "How you doin'? "

It's from one of my local refineries. My tallest building is just under 30 feet, so I myself have never been all the way up it, nor do I want to. I'm a ground dweller, and have trouble working off a ladder (hopefully expressed as on a ladder) any higher than 20 feet up.

One of the most comical things you'll ever observe, if you're not in it, is a 200 pound man on a 20 foot ladder being pursued by a half-ounce wasp.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 02:03 PM (H5rtT)

294 Neither really make sense: black panthers are South American.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 02:00 PM (39g3+)

LOL!

Scholarship. Accept no substitutes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:03 PM (W62qG)

295
Pompeo grew up 2 streets over from me. My sister graduated high school with her. Not a big fan.
Posted by: tu3031

Did she ...

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:04 PM (o3NFc)

296 Well, people can get over any wall, its not like a ladder is the only method (presumably part of the wall will be underground as well, for stability and to prevent digging under). Its just a question of at which point it becomes too much trouble so you start using boats instead.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 02:04 PM (39g3+)

297 who does photoshop here?

I wanna see a line of "immigrants" with giant ladders storming a wall, and in amongst the crowd is....

a luchador with a folding chair.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 17, 2018 02:05 PM (jnLXM)

298
Oh... and you would need TWO... or are they just supposed to jump off????
Posted by: Don Quixote

You could tie off a repelling rope to the top rung. As long as there was someone on the south side holding the ladder down.

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:06 PM (o3NFc)

299 Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 02:03 PM (H5rtT)

Used to amaze me how many BRAVE Men... would not go up the Mast on a destroyer to do Antenna Maintenance...

Its actually pretty safe, if you know what you are doing... but most could not do it.

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 02:06 PM (NgKpN)

300 One of the most comical things you'll ever observe, if you're not in it, is a 200 pound man on a 20 foot ladder being pursued by a half-ounce wasp.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 02:03 PM (H5rtT)

+++

Not only can I not be the one on your ladder, I can't even look at people who are on high places, like acrobats, men hanging about on girders, men in cherry pickers, etc.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2018 02:07 PM (tcwn1)

301 >>>She never stood in the hot Georgia sun and repeated after an NCO: All obstacles must be covered by observation and fire.

:::bites tongue:::

Posted by: Ccqesg Zxusee Tin at February 17, 2018 02:07 PM (1vgk3)

302 Since we are blaming small agencies in the government for their failures in protecting school kids... Why not go big?

Has anyone considered the fact that threatening to jail parents for refusing to pack their kids into large, drab federal institutions overseen by Commie-propagandizing union goons everyday does not exactly align with American values ?

Mandatory school attendance is exactly as effective, safe and productive as every other mandatory government thing.

Posted by: skip intro at February 17, 2018 02:07 PM (x25VP)

303 298
Oh... and you would need TWO... or are they just supposed to jump off????
Posted by: Don Quixote

You could tie off a repelling rope to the top rung. As long as there was someone on the south side holding the ladder down.
Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:06 PM (o3NFc)

Without a harness, the vast majority of people cannot climb DOWN a 40 ft. rope.

And it takes some training to be able to do it WITH a harness...

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 02:08 PM (NgKpN)

304 Oh... and you would need TWO... or are they just supposed to jump off????
Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 02:03 PM (NgKpN)

Exactly.

Plus, suppose you have two. How do you get the second one to the other side? Hmmm.

You're on top of a 40 foot wall. A 40 foot ladder is one side. How do someone get the second (very heavy) ladder up to you so you can maneuver it over to the other side while you are perched precariously on the rounded top of the wall?

Probably doable, but no mean feat. I certainly wouldn't want to try it.

Sure, you could probably tie a rope to the first ladder and rappel down the other side, but let's face it: that takes training, and no small amount of cojones to do.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:08 PM (W62qG)

305 *slinks back to the kitchen*

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:09 PM (kNasr)

306 I don't even want to go more than three steps up a ladder.

I'm pissing-my-pants scared just searching "free climbing" on YouTube.

You're welcome.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2018 02:10 PM (sdi6R)

307 You could tie off a repelling rope to the top rung. As long as there was someone on the south side holding the ladder down.
Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:06 PM (o3NFc)

We posted simultaneously, but sure: it could be done. But what proportion of the population would be able/willing to try this?

So we get a few Mexicans into the country who are candidates for the Olympics or Special Forces. OK. I can live with that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:10 PM (W62qG)

308
Sure, you could probably tie a rope to the first ladder and rappel down the other side, but let's face it: that takes training, and no small amount of cojones to do.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:08 PM (W62qG)

Only way would be to have accomplices on the other side...

The US side... where cameras will be watching...

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 02:10 PM (NgKpN)

309 288 Okay, total non sequitur and shallow to boot, but I see that some of my girls are here - is there such a thing as a liquid matte lipstick that looks good on women who are 29 and one week (give or take), or do I just give it up as a bad job?
Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:02 PM (kNasr)
--------------------------------
Matte lipstick generally doesn't look good on women 29 and older. Actually, it doesn't look great on younger women unless it's a perfect color.
I'm not keen on the super-super-shiny stuff either, mind you, but matte? Nope.
IMO.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2018 02:10 PM (0jtPF)

310 The wall won't stop illegal immigration but it will be a significant impediment. They'll have to dig tunnels, use boats and planes, and sick more people into cars somehow.

And I do believe that it will get built, eventually. Sad to see it happen, because I don't think its needed but at this point its symbolic of Trumps entire presidency, so he has to do it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 02:10 PM (39g3+)

311 Sure, you could probably tie a rope to the first ladder and rappel down
the other side, but let's face it: that takes training, and no small
amount of cojones to do.
---

How do you say "hold my beer" in Mexican?

Posted by: skip intro at February 17, 2018 02:11 PM (x25VP)

312 306 I don't even want to go more than three steps up a ladder.

I'm pissing-my-pants scared just searching "free climbing" on YouTube.

You're welcome.
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2018 02:10 PM (sdi6R)

++

Just described me to a "T".

Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2018 02:11 PM (tcwn1)

313 How do you say "hold my beer" in Mexican?
Posted by: skip intro at February 17, 2018 02:11 PM (x25VP)

Mantenga Cervesa!

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 02:12 PM (NgKpN)

314 306 I don't even want to go more than three steps up a ladder.

I'm pissing-my-pants scared just searching "free climbing" on YouTube.

You're welcome.
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2018 02:10 PM (sdi6R)

Same here. I had to climb up onto a second story roof and reach around over the edge holding a downspout for balance to change a light bulb.

I was scared shitless, and could have used a stiff drink afterwards.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:12 PM (W62qG)

315 Assemble a 40 foot wall. Wait for the first illegal to top that wall and get stranded and scream for help from the U.S. side, or go on a hunger strike atop the wall. CNN et al have a field day with a big clock running on the hours and days Trump refuses to help the poor stranded wall refugee (wallfugee, I'm coining the term now).

Posted by: doomed at February 17, 2018 02:12 PM (UW4Uc)

316 Somebody here is obsessed with colons. Unhealthy, it is.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2018 02:13 PM (Dbv1R)

317
*slinks back to the kitchen*

Question for everyone: Is your kitchen your Central HQ?

TV & computer, there?

Posted by: Mama's Little Helper at February 17, 2018 02:14 PM (YJ1T6)

318 Wilson being an absolute racist would have eaten a bullet.
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Your morning smile.

Posted by: amdycanuck at February 17, 2018 02:14 PM (ewxPW)

319 Only way would be to have accomplices on the other side...

The US side... where cameras will be watching...
Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 02:10 PM (NgKpN)

Exactly.

But just as with the extent of the wall, liberals - perhaps disingenuously - think the standard is perfection, that NO ONE crosses at all.

Success is defined as dramatically reducing the number crossing, not achieving zero crossings.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:15 PM (W62qG)

320 No, Mama's LH.

Posted by: amdycanuck at February 17, 2018 02:15 PM (ewxPW)

321
Somebody here is obsessed with colons.

Are we discussing Mucilex again?

Or "trotlines?"

Posted by: Mama's Little Helper at February 17, 2018 02:15 PM (YJ1T6)

322 I had a buddy, who helped me build my house. Great guy with a lot of skills (had rebuilt an English double-ended sloop in a barn, a board at a time), and he had that thing about open heights. He would happily hang upside down by one knee, sinking a spike, inside, 15 or so feet above solid concrete.

BUT, put him on a flat roof outside, just inches higher than the indoor work site, and sweat would stand out on his forehead if he was within six feet of the edge. He knew it, he'd do it, but it just gave him the heebie-jeebies.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 02:15 PM (H5rtT)

323
oops, that's not me!

Posted by: Mama's Little Helper at February 17, 2018 02:15 PM (YJ1T6)

324
This is Me.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 17, 2018 02:16 PM (YJ1T6)

325 Ah, Margarita! Thanks for listening. I'm not so keen on it either, but the longevity is much better than for others. It looks great on my daughters but awful on me. And super shiny is yuck. I prefer the creamy stuff that alas doesn't last all that long.

Oh well, thought it was worth asking! Thank you!

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:16 PM (kNasr)

326 Success is defined as dramatically reducing the number crossing, not achieving zero crossings.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

I still want landmines

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:16 PM (o3NFc)

327 315 Assemble a 40 foot wall. Wait for the first illegal to top that wall and get stranded and scream for help from the U.S. side, or go on a hunger strike atop the wall. CNN et al have a field day with a big clock running on the hours and days Trump refuses to help the poor stranded wall refugee (wallfugee, I'm coining the term now).
Posted by: doomed at February 17, 2018 02:12 PM (UW4Uc)

Restrict access to the border area on the US side as a security measure. Keep the reporters away. Problem solved.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:17 PM (W62qG)

328 I still want landmines
Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:16 PM (o3NFc)

Interlocking zones of fire, and sharks with freakin' lasers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:17 PM (W62qG)

329 Sooth, yes, my computer is in the kitchen. No tv though; we have one, and it's in the (finished) basement.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:18 PM (kNasr)

330 Trump refuses to help the poor stranded wall refugee (wallfugee, I'm coining the term now).
Posted by: doomed

We could have cheerleaders shoot him burritos with one of those tshirt guns

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:19 PM (o3NFc)

331 327

Or just have Trump personally park a big van in front of the cameras.

Posted by: doomed at February 17, 2018 02:19 PM (UW4Uc)

332 BUT, put him on a flat roof outside, just inches higher than the indoor work site, and sweat would stand out on his forehead if he was within six feet of the edge. He knew it, he'd do it, but it just gave him the heebie-jeebies.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 02:15 PM (H5rtT)

My man.

I'm not a height fan, even though I've parachuting. That didn't bother me, as that was all planned. Relying on my own (dodgy) balance? Sweaty palms time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:19 PM (W62qG)

333 I still want landmines
Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:16 PM (o3NFc)

Interlocking zones of fire, and sharks with freakin' lasers.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:17 PM (W62qG)

Didn't Obama suggest a moat, with alligators? What better way to honor his legacy than the President Barack H. Obama Moat With Alligators In The Moat?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:20 PM (y87Qq)

334 Trump refuses to help the poor stranded wall refugee (wallfugee, I'm coining the term now).
Posted by: doomed

Tell Pedro to climb back down the way climbed up.

Just like cats in trees. No need to call the fire department; when's the last time you last a cat skeleton in a tree?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:20 PM (W62qG)

335
Restrict access to the border area on the US side as a security measure. Keep the reporters away. Problem solved.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Invite them to cover it from Mexico, they love reporters in Mexico

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:20 PM (o3NFc)

336
How does one live without a tv in the kitchen?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 17, 2018 02:20 PM (YJ1T6)

337 Assemble a 40 foot wall. Wait for the first illegal to top that wall and get stranded

The tops of these walls aren't like a gated community wall, they are not sittable.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 02:21 PM (39g3+)

338 333 I still want landmines
Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:16 PM (o3NFc)

Interlocking zones of fire, and sharks with freakin' lasers.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:17 PM (W62qG)

Didn't Obama suggest a moat, with alligators? What better way to honor his legacy than the President Barack H. Obama Moat With Alligators In The Moat?
Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:20 PM (y87Qq)

Crocs.

Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 17, 2018 02:21 PM (kBuGL)

339 Question for everyone: Is your kitchen your Central HQ?

TV & computer, there?
Posted by: Mama's Little Helper But Really Soothsayer at February 17, 2018 02:14 PM (YJ1T6)

Computer, no TV. There's nowhere to sit in there though.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:22 PM (y87Qq)

340 Invite them to cover it from Mexico, they love reporters in Mexico
Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:20 PM (o3NFc)

And then find some problem with the CNN reporters' papers, and make him stay there.

I like it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:22 PM (W62qG)

341 What kind of landmines? Bouncing Bettys? Claymores? Might I suggest 3 strand concertina wire instead?

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2018 02:22 PM (aC6Sd)

342 Here's Al.com's headline on the Mueller indictments:

"13 Russians indicted for interfering with election to help Trump"

This is how the lefty media is going to report on the indictments. They'll simply continue to lie.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 17, 2018 02:22 PM (398bZ)

343 is there such a thing as a liquid matte lipstick that looks good on women who are 29 and one week (give or take), or do I just give it up as a bad job?
Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:02 PM (kNasr)
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Go to Sephora and try them out. I like Kat von D's Everlasting Liquid Lipstick in Lolita (ha!) which is a dusty rose.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 02:22 PM (qJtVm)

344 @330
�me oyes, Carlito

El hombre que nunca regreso

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 02:23 PM (H5rtT)

345 The tops of these walls aren't like a gated community wall, they are not sittable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 02:21 PM (39g3+)

The prototypes I've seen have rounded tops of large diameter (to preclude use of grappling hooks, I presume).

Of course, a silicone coating on them could make things especially interesting for would-be climbers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:23 PM (W62qG)

346 What kind of landmines? Bouncing Bettys? Claymores? Might I suggest 3 strand concertina wire instead?
Posted by: Skip

SADF AP

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:23 PM (o3NFc)

347 325 Ah, Margarita! Thanks for listening. I'm not so keen on it either, but the longevity is much better than for others. It looks great on my daughters but awful on me. And super shiny is yuck. I prefer the creamy stuff that alas doesn't last all that long.

Oh well, thought it was worth asking! Thank you!
Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:16 PM (kNasr)
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Yep. I know exactly where you're coming from!
I wish they could make a semi-gloss that actually DID last.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2018 02:23 PM (0jtPF)

348
Yeah, it probably depends on if you can fit a good-size table right in your kitchen.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 17, 2018 02:23 PM (YJ1T6)

349 341 What kind of landmines? Bouncing Bettys? Claymores? Might I suggest 3 strand concertina wire instead?
Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2018 02:22 PM (aC6Sd)

Embrace the power of "and."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:24 PM (W62qG)

350 "when's the last time you saw a cat skeleton in a tree?"

Ask my .22.

Posted by: doomed at February 17, 2018 02:24 PM (UW4Uc)

351 Go to Sephora and try them out. I like Kat von D's Everlasting Liquid Lipstick in Lolita (ha!) which is a dusty rose.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 02:22 PM (qJtVm)

One of each lip!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:25 PM (W62qG)

352 I can't wait for Star Trek technology. Then, we put up at level-10 force field at the border. Some people will think they crossed the border, but in fact they will have entered a holodeck simulating East Saint Louis, Illinois. They'll tell everyone they know in the real world what a poop-hole America is and the government of Mexico will pay for the force field to protect its more curious and adventurous citizens. Win-win, all the way around. And I get a food replicator in my kitchen and will eat all the taco pizza I want.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 17, 2018 02:25 PM (y+SdL)

353 Invite them to cover it from Mexico, they love reporters in Mexico
Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:20 PM (o3NFc)

And then find some problem with the CNN reporters' papers, and make him stay there.

I like it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Maybe send some emails asking the police about corruption and drug cartel influence

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:25 PM (o3NFc)

354
Why get so involved? Somebody atop your wall? Just shoot them off and be done with it.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 17, 2018 02:25 PM (S/hVx)

355 It's not a true battlement without sluices for boiling oil.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 02:26 PM (qJtVm)

356 I don't even want to go more than three steps up a ladder.

I'm pissing-my-pants scared just searching "free climbing" on YouTube.

You're welcome.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2018 02:10 PM (sdi6R)

I was "training" on a job on a jack-up rig in Mobile Bay. Had to go up to the crown blocks of the derrick, and set up a depth encoder on the fast wheel. So I lash the encoder, a heavy, ungainly hunk of iron, to my back, stuff my pockets with U-bolts and nuts and washers, a Crescent wrench on a lanyard, hitch onto the climbing assist line, and head up the stick.

Got 'er all done; encoder is sending signals as it should. (Oh, I was dragging about 300 feet of four-conductor cab-tire cord, too.) Go to climb down, and the climbing-assist line is stuck. I jerked on it a few times, and then decided, "maybe that's no such a good idea". Climbed down without the assist. No fall-arrest line in those days, either. Go tell the assistant floor boss what happened. "Oh, you can't use the climbing assist all the way to the crown. The weight goes over the deck railing and hangs up. Climb back up there, and holler when you get to the top, and I will free the weight up for you."
So that's what I did. It's a long climb, especially hanging onto the ladder rungs with all 5 appendages.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2018 02:26 PM (Dbv1R)

357
When I was a kid we had a tiny 5" under-the-cabinet TV made by Black & Decker that was mounted on a swivel.

I would eat cereal and watch Bryant Gumbel and Jane Pauley on the Today show before school.

I still have that TV. Has too much sentimental value for me to discard.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 17, 2018 02:26 PM (YJ1T6)

358 Was reading a article from a art student on Jug Ears and Mooch's portraits and how future people will sed them. It Reminded me of a PBS program a nun went to art museums and explained paintings, that in the future could be a riot .

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2018 02:26 PM (aC6Sd)

359 I still want landmines
Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:16 PM (o3NFc)

Interlocking zones of fire, and sharks with freakin' lasers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:17 PM (W62qG)

========

Electrify the top. Have an acid moat on the other side. Post warning signs.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 02:27 PM (/qEW2)

360 How does one live without a tv in the kitchen?

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 17, 2018 02:20 PM (YJ1T6)
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I live without tv most days of the year. Shocking, I know.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:27 PM (kNasr)

361 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2018 02:26 PM (Dbv1R)

+++

Your story sent me into my sweating and shaking mode.
Thanks a heap.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2018 02:30 PM (tcwn1)

362 My cat is perched on the back of the couch behind me and licking my head with ferocious intensity and it's freaking me the fuck out

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:30 PM (y87Qq)

363 ok now there is gnawing please stop you weirdo cat what is actually wrong with you

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:31 PM (y87Qq)

364 Go to Sephora and try them out. I like Kat von D's Everlasting Liquid Lipstick in Lolita (ha!) which is a dusty rose.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 02:22 PM (qJtVm)
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I'll try it - it sounds pretty. So it doesn't make your lips look like the Sahara?

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:32 PM (kNasr)

365
Cat probably wants to clean his/her tongue.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 17, 2018 02:32 PM (YJ1T6)

366 Your story sent me into my sweating and shaking mode.

Thanks a heap.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2018 02:30 PM (tcwn1)

Happy to be of service!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2018 02:32 PM (Dbv1R)

367 362 My cat is perched on the back of the couch behind me and licking my head with ferocious intensity and it's freaking me the fuck out
Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:30 PM (y87Qq)

+++

A gash back there that you are not aware of?

Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2018 02:32 PM (tcwn1)

368 Lick him back, Hog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_beJnlTeTk

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 02:32 PM (qJtVm)

369 Of all the stupid things I ever did, maybe top of the list was a drizzly dark night in high school, me and two friends jumped from the top of one grain silo to the other...the big blue ones with white tops, which were painted enamel and quite slick. Stupid beyond words. I must not have had a thing about heights at the time because I sure do now. I can get on a roof and move around with no problem but would not get up in the Gateway Arch again like I did when I was six.

Don't recall us being drunk that night either. Just stupid.

Posted by: doomed at February 17, 2018 02:32 PM (UW4Uc)

370 I wish they could make a semi-gloss that actually DID last.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 17, 2018 02:23 PM (0jtPF)
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Maybe one of our chemists could get to work on that. Hint hint.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:33 PM (kNasr)

371 I wish they could make a semi-gloss that actually DID last.

If ettes were all properly kissed it would all get eroded away anyhow

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 02:33 PM (39g3+)

372
TV is always on. Helps me think, or not think.

Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 17, 2018 02:33 PM (YJ1T6)

373 ok now there is gnawing please stop you weirdo cat what is actually wrong with you

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:31 PM (y87Qq)

My late kitty Claws would do that head-grooming thing, too. I sure miss him.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2018 02:33 PM (Dbv1R)

374 A gash back there that you are not aware of?
Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2018 02:32 PM (tcwn1)

Talcum powder or aftershave or something maybe.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 02:32 PM (qJtVm)

Dear future anthropologists: I'm so sorry. We had no idea.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:34 PM (y87Qq)

375 322
BUT, put him on a flat roof outside, just inches higher than the indoor work site, and sweat would stand out on his forehead if he was within six feet of the edge. He knew it, he'd do it, but it just gave him the heebie-jeebies.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2018 02:15 PM (H5rtT)

That's the way I am. I've been on the roof of a flat-roofed building, and it's like a force field keeps me more than six feet from the edge. Nonononofuckthat.

Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2018 02:34 PM (sdi6R)

376 Brush your cat's tongue with Crest.

Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 17, 2018 02:35 PM (kBuGL)

377 One of each lip!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:25 PM (W62qG)
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Jay, my sweet, we have a little job for you. . . .

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:35 PM (kNasr)

378 I'll try it - it sounds pretty. So it doesn't make your lips look like the Sahara?
Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:32 PM (kNasr)
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This formula is fairly long-lasting and not drying. It's good for an event where you can't conveniently touch up your lipstick.

But it isn't all day. None of them are! They lie!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 02:36 PM (qJtVm)

379 363 ok now there is gnawing please stop you weirdo cat what is actually wrong with you
Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:31 PM (y87Qq)

Meowbraaaaaaiiins!

Posted by: Zombie Cat at February 17, 2018 02:37 PM (tMFgx)

380 My late kitty Claws would do that head-grooming thing, too. I sure miss him.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2018 02:33 PM (Dbv1R)

This kitty will usually lick your hand if you rub his tummy but this is the first time he's actually trying to straight-up eat my brain. It just kinda came out of nowhere.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:37 PM (y87Qq)

381
That's the way I am. I've been on the roof of a flat-roofed building, and it's like a force field keeps me more than six feet from the edge. Nonononofuckthat.
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2018 02:34 PM (sdi6R)

+++

You are my long, lost male twin. No one else in my family has such height phobias as I do.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2018 02:38 PM (tcwn1)

382 This formula is fairly long-lasting and not drying. It's good for an event where you can't conveniently touch up your lipstick.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 02:36 PM (qJtVm)
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which is exactly what I would need it for. We have these things now and again that we have to go to and it drives me crazy when my lipstick wears off so quickly.

(Apologies to the 'rons here, who are no doubt rolling their eyes.)

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:38 PM (kNasr)

383 Dear future anthropologists: I'm so sorry. We had no idea.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:34 PM (y87Qq)

I find this more disturbing than Furries. Who probably use the Licki, now that I think about it, which bleeeccchhh

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 02:38 PM (qJtVm)

384 This kitty will usually lick your hand if you rub
his tummy but this is the first time he's actually trying to straight-up
eat my brain. It just kinda came out of nowhere.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:37 PM (y87Qq)

I think the grooming thing means he accepts you as boss cat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2018 02:38 PM (Dbv1R)

385 Mencken was an a-hole. He would have called the AoSHQ horde "boobs." Another truly Giant A-hole contemporary of his was Alexander Wolcott. That was back when virtue-signaling included disdain for the "Babbitts." Snobby prigs, all of em.

Posted by: gp at February 17, 2018 02:39 PM (mk9aG)

386 This kitty will usually lick your hand if you rub his tummy but this is the first time he's actually trying to straight-up eat my brain. It just kinda came out of nowhere.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:37 PM (y87Qq)

Your kitty is just licking off the tasty salt.

Has your cat ever tried to groom you with the little nibbles? That is endearing and creepy in equal measure.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 02:40 PM (qJtVm)

387
I can't wait for Star Trek technology. Then, we put up at level-10 force field at the border.

They'll defeat it with south of the border Wakanda technology.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 17, 2018 02:40 PM (IqV8l)

388 Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 02:06 PM (NgKpN)

I used to do injection molding plant maintenance. The last company I worked for, the big crane always seemed to break. More than once I found myself on a ladder which was perched atop two stacked 100k+ molds replacing clamps on the electrical tracks. I hated it, I was scared to death, and shaking like a leaf, but I got it done.

Posted by: Bill R. at February 17, 2018 02:40 PM (IuYIh)

389 Reminded me of a PBS program a nun went to art museums and explained paintings, that in the future could be a riot .
Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2018 02:26 PM (aC6Sd)
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Sister Wendy. She was great. I can't even imagine what she would think of those portraits.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:40 PM (kNasr)

390 What do you expect a cat to do? You're made of meat. He's just checking to see if he can eat you yet.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 17, 2018 02:40 PM (tMFgx)

391 Why SADF AP? Because that's what Mexico uses on their

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:41 PM (o3NFc)

392 Noodsters.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 02:41 PM (/qEW2)

393 359 I still want landmines
Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2018 02:16 PM (o3NFc)

Interlocking zones of fire, and sharks with freakin' lasers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:17 PM (W62qG)

========

Electrify the top. Have an acid moat on the other side. Post warning signs.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 02:27 PM (/qEW2)

Mount the rounded top on a shaft with bearings. Watch the fun of log-rolling 40 feet up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:41 PM (W62qG)

394 (Apologies to the 'rons here, who are no doubt rolling their eyes.)
Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:38 PM (kNasr)

Feh, apologize why? Is someone gonna yell at you to save it for the lipstick thread?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:41 PM (y87Qq)

395
Used to climb all over the roof of our former house and the neatest thing ever was the felt wader soles you strapped on hip boots for wading around slippery crick beds. They would grab the shingles almost like velcro. Took the fear factor right out of it.

I don't have fear of heights, age has made me marginally wiser in some instances.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 17, 2018 02:42 PM (S/hVx)

396 Thank you, hogmartin. I know it's an open thread, but it still seemed like I was coming way out of left field.

After all, it's not like we have a regular fashion thread or anything around this joint.

Posted by: bluebell at February 17, 2018 02:42 PM (kNasr)

397 at 22 I would scamper up a 40 foot ladder with no worries. I once climbed straight up a ladder in a church to change a light bulb over the pulpit with a steep angled ceiling ... just one guy at the bottom helping balancing the ladder, leaning on nothing but air. A guy walked in to rehearse with his guitar and saw me up there and was like "holy shit" so helped hold the bottom.

I trusted God I guess, and it is not that difficult ... still stupid. Now I wear a safety harness and lanyard just to climb on the grain bin, which is maybe 25 feet.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 17, 2018 02:43 PM (bT8Z4)

398 384 This kitty will usually lick your hand if you rub
his tummy but this is the first time he's actually trying to straight-up
eat my brain. It just kinda came out of nowhere.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:37 PM (y87Qq)

I think the grooming thing means he accepts you as boss cat.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2018 02:38 PM (Dbv1R)

Or used a new shampoo that tastes good...

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 02:43 PM (NgKpN)

399 LOL, the youtube comments:

"Looks like he is doing this without consent from the cats, which is sexual assault"

"Just grow a Van Dyke"

"Imagine looking through the window and seeing that"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 02:44 PM (qJtVm)

400 Workd a few times on high roofing, framing them mostly and usually churches. First day your very wary, every day after it gets easier. A couple of weeks after you start it gets terrifying when you're thinking What the hell am I doing up here?

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2018 02:44 PM (aC6Sd)

401 at 22 I would scamper up a 40 foot ladder with no worries. I once climbed straight up a ladder in a church to change a light bulb over the pulpit with a steep angled ceiling .

Shoulda made the guy who designed that climb up there.

We lived in a house with a cathedral ceiling, but I had a gizmo on a long pole that could be used to grip and twist a light bulb, so no problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:45 PM (W62qG)

402 4. All us white dudes are going to see every new S(J)W disney movie
anyway because star wars is our life and we just can't quit it.

A
great deal of her argument sounded like corporate damage control
boilerplate, so I rather expect this is how disney thinks about the
situation.

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My wife and I rented one of the recent reboots. Woman, space Spanish guy, space Ninja guy, and homosexual black robot are going to stop the Death Star from being built or whatever.

We turned it off halfway through because it was boring as sh*t. We were even drinking during it and it was boring as sh*t. I can't imagine how much worse it's going to get, although the riveting story of how Han Solo got his leather jacket or whatever is just a tale that everyone has always wondered about.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 02:47 PM (ks6bw)

403 Maybe stop using the Salmon Mousse in your hair?

Posted by: amdycanuck at February 17, 2018 02:48 PM (ewxPW)

404 My wife and I rented one of the recent reboots. Woman, space Spanish guy, space Ninja guy, and homosexual black robot are going to stop the Death Star from being built or whatever.

We turned it off halfway through because it was boring as sh*t. We were even drinking during it and it was boring as sh*t. I can't imagine how much worse it's going to get, although the riveting story of how Han Solo got his leather jacket or whatever is just a tale that everyone has always wondered about.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 02:47 PM (ks6bw)

Yet Disney is going to beat the franchise into the dirt until they make Star Wars 73: The Last Poofter, or something.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:48 PM (W62qG)

405 How about topping the Wall with hi-gloss lipstick?

Posted by: amdycanuck at February 17, 2018 02:49 PM (ewxPW)

406 Maybe stop using the Salmon Mousse in your hair?
Posted by: amdycanuck at February 17, 2018 02:48 PM (ewxPW)

That is not an option.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 17, 2018 02:50 PM (y87Qq)

407 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 02:47 PM (ks6bw)

I watched the first three and I think I saw one more but I can't remember the name of it. I have not seen any of the recent ones, not have I watched any of the Star Trek reboots all the way through. Just not interested!

Posted by: Bill R. at February 17, 2018 02:50 PM (IuYIh)

408 OH... my .. GOD...

You can't make up shit this silly...

A Black group is now doing Voter Registration at the Black Panther movies...

And advertising it as meeting their fellow Wakandans...

Uh.... Wakanda is a MONARCHY, ruled by the strongest Warrior.

/facepalm

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 02:50 PM (NgKpN)

409 From Insty:

TRUMP COULD MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR THE WALL WITH A MODEST - SAY, 5% - TAX ON REMITTANCES: Mexican-Americans Sent Home Record $28.1 Billion in 2017. "Perhaps comically, remittances were actually Mexico's biggest source of foreign income after auto exports, far surpassing the $20 billion that Mexico earned from oil exports and the $19 billion from tourism in 2017."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:52 PM (W62qG)

410 I'm all for those f*ckers climbing a 40 foot ladder, btw. A seven footer is dangerous as heck and I know two people who have died from gutter-cleaning heights.

Have at it, amigos.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 02:52 PM (ks6bw)

411 >>but where there are generations in between where It's Us . Not G-d but Us failing.
Posted by: willow

Yes. We all fail. It's all about God rescuing some, not all:

And she shall bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name JESUS; for it is he that shall save his people from their sins. (Matt. 1:21 ASV)

Posted by: Mr Peabody at February 17, 2018 02:52 PM (fSf/G)

412 You can't make up shit this silly...

A Black group is now doing Voter Registration at the Black Panther movies...

And advertising it as meeting their fellow Wakandans...

Uh.... Wakanda is a MONARCHY, ruled by the strongest Warrior.

/facepalm
Posted by: Don Quixote at February 17, 2018 02:50 PM (NgKpN)

Ghetto scholarship in action.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:53 PM (W62qG)

413 http://bit.ly/2GmRSmW
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Florida Sheriff Just Delivered Ultimatum To Media: Leave Families Of Murdered Children ALONE
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How Fucking Stupid are these GHOULS

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 02:53 PM (y3aQB)

414 Have at it, amigos.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 02:52 PM (ks6bw)

Yeah, really. If I somehow climbed a 40 foot ladder, anyone underneath would be well-advised not to look up, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 02:55 PM (W62qG)

415 braaaaiiinnnsss

Posted by: hogmartin's zombie cat at February 17, 2018 02:59 PM (sdi6R)

416 BTW, I wasn't referring to a Jedi when I said "space ninja" up above.

Disney literally had an Asian guy portraying a (blind) character that knew space kung fu. Because space Asian.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 03:00 PM (ks6bw)

417
Reminded me of a PBS program a nun went to art museums and explained paintings, that in the future could be a riot . Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2018 02:26 PM (aC6Sd) ---------

But could she fly?

Posted by: Sister Bertrille at February 17, 2018 03:00 PM (lKyWE)

418 http://bit.ly/2GmRSmW

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How Fucking Stupid are these GHOULS

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 02:53 PM (y3aQB)

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Is this the sheriff who was standing on their little bodies to call for gun control?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 03:04 PM (ks6bw)

419 Florida Sheriff

EAGBOD - same asswipe who didn't bust the psycho 36+ times and had the gall to threaten other elected officials over not voting FOR gun control.

Posted by: DaveA at February 17, 2018 03:04 PM (FhXTo)

420 Disney literally had an Asian guy portraying a (blind) character that knew space kung fu. Because space Asian.
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That was apparently less about politically motivated diversity as an attempt to get Chinese folks into their theaters.

To be fair it worked a bit better than Rose did.

Posted by: Methos at February 17, 2018 03:04 PM (XQvuQ)

421 Disney literally had an Asian guy portraying a (blind) character that knew space kung fu. Because space Asian.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 03:00 PM (ks6bw)
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"Spasians" are there for the China market.

OT: I watched the sequel to "Skyline" and it somehow transformed from an alien invasion movie into a chop-socky flick. Not good bad, just bad bad.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 17, 2018 03:06 PM (qJtVm)

422 Speaking of gun deals, Palmetto State Armory has complete AR kits (minus receiver) for $300.

"PSA 16" M4 Carbine Length 5.56 NATO 1:7 Nitride Freedom Rifle Kit - 507617"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 03:11 PM (ks6bw)

423
Disney literally had an Asian guy portraying a (blind) character that knew space kung fu. Because space Asian. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 03:00 PM (ks6bw) ---

And he could do a mean stir fry

Posted by: Sister Bertrille at February 17, 2018 03:13 PM (lKyWE)

424 "Spasians" are there for the China market.

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I get the notion behind it, and I have no real problem with it the same way that good looking actresses will get guys to go see a movie with the girlfriend, but the kung fu aspect was really weird. Couldn't be a sniper or regular old space guy piloting a ship. Had to be a blind space kung fu master.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 03:13 PM (ks6bw)

425 Heard on the radio news Florida is looking for a plea deal on school shooter, to save the public for a circus trial, a life in prison instead of a capital punishment.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2018 03:15 PM (aC6Sd)

426 Heard on the radio news Florida is looking for a plea deal on school shooter, to save the public for a circus trial

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Yeah, probably has nothing to do with law enforcement up to and including the FBI dropping the ball every chance they got.

This is like the politicians discussing releasing the RUSSIA!!! memo. You're not protecting me with those decisions, you bunch of jerks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 03:18 PM (ks6bw)

427
Couldn't be a sniper or regular old space guy piloting a ship. Had to be a blind space kung fu master.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 03:13 PM (ks6bw)

Sounds like a ripoff of the old Kung Fu TV series.

Posted by: Sister Bertrille at February 17, 2018 03:18 PM (lKyWE)

428 Did see names and pictures of most of the victims, not sure exactly but 3 male teachers, the others were all students about even of girls and boys. I want to see them, and want to remember them than the worthless monster who murdered them.

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2018 03:20 PM (aC6Sd)

429 My take right away is any excuse not to go fof capital punishment. Prager was the one who pointed out murder is a affront to God and their life should be taken away

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2018 03:22 PM (aC6Sd)

430 I liked the Flying Nun.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 17, 2018 03:24 PM (/qEW2)

431 Yeah, probably has nothing to do with law enforcement up to and including the FBI dropping the ball every chance they got.

This is like the politicians discussing releasing the RUSSIA!!! memo. You're not protecting me with those decisions, you bunch of jerks.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 03:18 PM (ks6bw)

FBI and local law enforcement: "Uh, let's just let bygones be bygones, OK? No need to go over the run up to this outrage in public, now, is there?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 03:26 PM (W62qG)

432 http://bit.ly/2Gmw2Qk
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 03:28 PM (y3aQB)

433 Afraid to climb a 40 foot ladder? Pussies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFMHjDqHL_Y

Posted by: Under Fire at February 17, 2018 03:30 PM (r9UYA)

434 http://bit.ly/2GmKckq
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Man Who Accused Seattle Mayor Ed Murray of Sexual Abuse Found Dead in Motel Room
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Arkan err Seattlecide

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 03:30 PM (y3aQB)

435 434 http://bit.ly/2GmKckq
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Man Who Accused Seattle Mayor Ed Murray of Sexual Abuse Found Dead in Motel Room
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Arkan err Seattlecide

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 03:30 PM (y3aQB)

Nope. He won a $100K settlement from the city and squandered it all on hard drugs. Maybe a little too hard of a drug.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 17, 2018 03:32 PM (r9UYA)

436 MisHum's cinnamon buns are making me want to make some

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2018 03:33 PM (aC6Sd)

437 Posted by: Under Fire at February 17, 2018 03:32 PM (r9UYA)
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Sarcasm doesn't work on Interwebz! Jotting it down

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 03:39 PM (y3aQB)

438 Just need a sarc tag to be sure

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2018 03:44 PM (aC6Sd)

439 433 Afraid to climb a 40 foot ladder? Pussies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFMHjDqHL_Y
Posted by: Under Fire at February 17, 2018 03:30 PM (r9UYA)

Hey, in this context I AM a pussy, and make no bones about it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 03:52 PM (W62qG)

440 433 Afraid to climb a 40 foot ladder? Pussies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFMHjDqHL_Y
Posted by: Under Fire at February 17, 2018 03:30 PM (r9UYA)

Now HERE'S an equal opportunity for women.

Go for it, girlz! Don't be locked out of this great job opportunity!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 03:55 PM (W62qG)

441 433 Afraid to climb a 40 foot ladder? Pussies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFMHjDqHL_Y
Posted by: Under Fire at February 17, 2018 03:30 PM (r9UYA)

Yeah, this is totally equivalent to sitting in an air-conditioned office typing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 03:58 PM (W62qG)

442 http://bit.ly/2GnNlR4
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The Media Stopped Reporting The Russia Collusion Story Because They Helped Create It

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 03:59 PM (y3aQB)

443 Yeah, you can make fun of me the whole way up the ladder as I load stuff into the bucket from the ground.

That's some serious sh*t right there. I'd bet falling kills more people than homicides every year.

Heck, I'd bet one year of extremely specific "falling from ladders" kills more people than total deaths from mass shootings since the 80s.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 04:00 PM (ks6bw)

444 I have a 40 foot ladder at my house, been up maybe 30 feet on it trimming trees, but setting that up in a tree isn't easy

Posted by: Skip at February 17, 2018 04:13 PM (aC6Sd)

445 the thing to consider is that a 1 in 100, even 1 in 1000 chance of death or permanent disability is a bad risk. use the safety harness ... or just never leave the house. lol

Posted by: illiniwek at February 17, 2018 04:20 PM (bT8Z4)

446 A ladder AND a chainsaw? Now you're just being silly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 17, 2018 04:21 PM (ks6bw)

447 flooding all over my local area yesterday with 3 + inches of Rain & today it is snowing like Crazy

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 04:21 PM (y3aQB)

448 http://bit.ly/2GpJCST
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Byron York is Misinformed --IG Horowitz Has Very Wide Investigative Net
Posted on February 17, 2018 by sundance

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 04:29 PM (y3aQB)

449 I help build a 199ft tower once. Two people on the tower and one on the ground. We used a gin pole to raise each section to be bolted on the last section. Guyed at 50, 100, and 180 ft. The most horrifying thing for me was leg and foot cramps and not the height. Well, maybe the height when my legs cramped up. We used climbing belts and tie offs so Safety.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 17, 2018 04:33 PM (r9UYA)

450 >>447 flooding all over my local area yesterday with 3 + inches of Rain & today it is snowing like Crazy

Yes, we're bracing for rain, then snow, then flooding here in the PNW as well. Yay.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 17, 2018 04:34 PM (r9UYA)

451 449 I help build a 199ft tower once. Two people on the tower and one on the ground. We used a gin pole to raise each section to be bolted on the last section. Guyed at 50, 100, and 180 ft. The most horrifying thing for me was leg and foot cramps and not the height. Well, maybe the height when my legs cramped up. We used climbing belts and tie offs so Safety.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 17, 2018 04:33 PM (r9UYA)

I've been watching several of the videos after that linked above, and I was wondering about legs cramps.

One of the videos says that those guys typically climb AT NIGHT, and do so all year 'round.

Those guys must have balls the size of coconuts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 17, 2018 04:37 PM (W62qG)

452 >>I've been watching several of the videos after that linked above, and I was wondering about legs cramps.

I went out and bought steel shanked boots for the project. I guess they helped but, over the course of 2 straight days I guess the leg muscles just had enough. I did this at least 20 years ago. Would I 'volunteer' to do this again? No way in He77.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 17, 2018 04:41 PM (r9UYA)

453 funny but one guy that had his cows at my place, and another that plants for me ... both used to climb up and trim trees for power companies, one guy was doing it at 300 pounds. Other guy got shocked once and fell and hurt ... stays away from all climbing and electrical now.

Climbing tied to something steel is one thing, but jumping around in trees with just a rope around said tree with swinging chainsaw ... those guys seem a little crazy.

But yes, chainsaw on ladder for normal people is a bad idea. I've cut lotsa 10" limbs with my little lithium battery pole saw ... "vista pruning" ... cut the limbs below 18' or so to keep your view.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 17, 2018 05:19 PM (bT8Z4)

454 We still love Presdent Obama and want him back. Trump is an idiot, liar, and a traytor. Trump must go !!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at February 17, 2018 06:41 PM (hqQ+Q)

455 http://bit.ly/2GjTqOr
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FL AG Pam Bondi: I Think FBI Director Christopher Wray Has a Lot of Explaining to Do

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 17, 2018 06:55 PM (y3aQB)

456 @454 Only Russians still love Obama. Thank Obama for Trump!

Posted by: lyn at February 18, 2018 03:52 PM (BdIho)

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