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Mitt Romney Announces Senate Bid
I guess he won't be worse than Orin hosta, but it sure seems that a very Republican and conservative state should be putting up senators with more backbone.
I am running for United States Senate to serve the people of Utah and bring Utah's values to Washington. pic.twitter.com/TDkas6gD2p
— Mitt Romney (@MittRomney) February 16, 2018
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: biblio at February 16, 2018 04:10 PM (6FY0P)
Posted by: Oedipus at February 16, 2018 04:10 PM (CXLVd)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 16, 2018 04:10 PM (jxbfJ)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 16, 2018 04:10 PM (RHEDC)
Posted by: biblio at February 16, 2018 04:10 PM (6FY0P)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 16, 2018 04:11 PM (H0hPC)
Posted by: Decaf at February 16, 2018 04:11 PM (/3+Sg)
Posted by: Hillary! at February 16, 2018 04:11 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: TexasDan at February 16, 2018 04:11 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Noah Rothman at February 16, 2018 04:12 PM (4e+hS)
Posted by: Egg McMuffin at February 16, 2018 04:14 PM (FTPVM)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2018 04:14 PM (U7cLk)
Posted by: concrete girl at February 16, 2018 04:14 PM (SJBL7)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 16, 2018 04:14 PM (fA1SL)
I fear he will take up McShit's mantle and run with it.
Fuck him.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2018 04:14 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at February 16, 2018 04:14 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Bill Kristol at February 16, 2018 04:14 PM (FTPVM)
Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2018 04:14 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: willow at February 16, 2018 04:14 PM (Z8j2x)
Posted by: biblio
Happened to me on the art thread this am. Lol
Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2018 04:14 PM (U7cLk)
Posted by: Archer at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (7qsff)
Posted by: Winnie at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (5Eb8h)
Obama was beatable, just not by someone whose favorite color is probably oatmeal.
Posted by: TexasDan at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (juCZM)
Posted by: Noah Rothman at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (pMGkg)
Threadwinner!
Posted by: Commenter at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (bsPVH)
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (7qsff)
How many other presidential candidates would have been defeated in a debate by Candy Crowley?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, disgusted by lame and stupid punditry at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (XfaeW)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (QQ+il)
After you lived in France, Massachusetts and Michigan, do you even know what Utah values are, Skippy?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (MnkFD)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2018 04:14 PM (U7cLk)
Art?
Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (czkHE)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 16, 2018 04:16 PM (+Dllb)
Republican and conservative state should be putting up senators with
more backbone.
He was elected governor of Massachusetts as a Republican. Which means he's basically a Democrat.
Posted by: tu3031 at February 16, 2018 04:16 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: Archer at February 16, 2018 04:16 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Mitt! at February 16, 2018 04:16 PM (+Tibp)
When asked which political character she'd want to play, Jennifer Lawrence said, "I could play Sen. [Elizabeth] Warren as Pocahontas."
This jab makes no sense as a criticism of Trump. Lawrence is as white as Warren and if she were to star as Pocahontas she'd probably be accused of whitewashing or whatever SJWs are calling this now.
Note, Lawrence is not making fun of Warren. She's a huge Trump detractor.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 16, 2018 04:16 PM (iv0p7)
Posted by: Egg McMuffin at February 16, 2018 04:14 PM (FTPVM)
So that's where all that yolk came from.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 16, 2018 04:17 PM (juCZM)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2018 04:17 PM (39g3+)
If he said "no" to a direct question how would you know he wasn't lying?
Posted by: torabora at February 16, 2018 04:17 PM (K0z2U)
Posted by: RiverRat1297 at February 16, 2018 04:17 PM (97pu9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:17 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (7qsff)
* clears throat *
Posted by: Zombie Baker-Fancher "Dreamers" at February 16, 2018 04:17 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Seems legit at February 16, 2018 04:17 PM (U+nHb)
Posted by: thrill at February 16, 2018 04:17 PM (KtTZf)
1. The failed campaign of John McCain.
2. The failed campaign of Mitt Romney.
Hold this bastard to account for his failure.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 16, 2018 04:18 PM (MnkFD)
At some point, were going to be fatigued with everybody being the victim, Thomas, the second African American to serve on the Supreme Court, said during an on-stage interview at the Library of Congress in Washington.
Thomas, a conservative appointed to the bench in 1990 by President George H.W. Bush, recalled recently being with a young black woman in Kansas who told him, Im really tired of having to play the role of being black. I just want to go to school.
I just get worn down, Thomas said.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2018 04:18 PM (SjImc)
Second look at Romney/ObamaCare?
Posted by: Mitt Romney at February 16, 2018 04:18 PM (2FqvZ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:18 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2018 04:14 PM (U7cLk)
Magical underwear?
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (7qsff)
.................
Better hair?
Posted by: wth at February 16, 2018 04:18 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (so+oy)
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (n+6mJ)
Reminder #2,359 that a Big Red Wave is needed in the Senate (bigger than 1980) - and even more daunting, that it be a wave of useful GOP, not useless/harmful types.
Romney will be fine on financial and economic stuff, of course, probably ditto on foreign policy, but on key issues like rule of law (illegal immigration, sanctuary lawlessness, etc) - harmful, possibly disastrously so, unless he's surrounded by enough serious GOP to socially coerce him. I think he will be very, very malleable.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Archer at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Seems legit at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (U+nHb)
How is she doing? I knew a girl with MS and she died before she was 40, which is heartbreaking.
I know we're supposed to hate Mitt because he's not a TruCon, but I liked him as the MA governor. Massachusetts has a sort of instinct to elect enough Republicans to save them from their socialist instincts. Bill Weld was even better.
The country is purple and we probably wouldn't like living under all red rule either.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:18 PM (ptqGC)
He's already rubbing one out into a teddy bear.
Posted by: PugBot Mahon at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (xPJvm)
Posted by: Max Power at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (q177U)
Jennifer Lawrence is pretty cute, but she's dumber than the average actress, and that's pretty dim.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: ace at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (8rNrN)
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (xzV6l)
Posted by: bonhomme at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (iv0p7)
Entirely self-inflicted, at that. Well, Paul Ryan's main debating point, "Thank You Joe! May I Have Another?", didn't help.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Retired Sgt. at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (Ws/Aw)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (eASYU)
So this isn't even an election, this is just going to be a formal certification of an ecclesiastical decision that has already been made.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (ptqGC)
Utah! People working together
Utah! What a great place to be.
Blessed from Heaven above.
It's the land that we love.
This is the place!
Utah! With its mountains and valleys.
Utah! With its canyons and streams.
You can go anywhere.
But there's none that compare.
This is the place!
It was Brigham Young who led the pioneers across the plains.
They suffered with the trials they had to face.
With faith they kept on going till they reached the Great Salt Lake
Here they heard the words, "This is the place!"
Utah! With its focus on family,
Utah! Helps each child to succeed.
People care how they live.
Each has so much to give.
This is the place!
Utah! Getting bigger and better.
Utah! Always leading the way.
New technology's here...
Growing faster each year.
This is the place!
There is beauty in the snow-capped mountains, in the lakes and streams.
There are valleys filled with farms and orchards too.
The spirit of its people shows in everything they do.
Utah is the place where dreams come true.
Utah! With its pioneer spirit.
Utah! What a great legacy!
Blessed from Heaven above.
It's the land that we love.
This is the place
Utah! Utah! Utah!
This is the place!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (cp1if)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, disgusted by lame and stupid punditry at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (XfaeW)
Posted by: Russian Dating Site at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (MnkFD)
Posted by: Judith Miller at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (ayEGB)
Posted by: Diogenes at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (axZ9x)
I'm sorry but this guy creeps me out. I used to sorta be okay with him. Now he makes me wanna puke.
Posted by: grammie winger - God Loves You, Don't Be Stupid, at February 16, 2018 04:21 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 16, 2018 04:21 PM (3FBAK)
I just woke up at work, but I realized it is Friday, so it's all good.
Heavens, how I loathe this job. If it weren't for the benefits, I'd be so outta here.
Fucking health insurance.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 16, 2018 04:21 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: mugiwara at February 16, 2018 04:21 PM (RChUT)
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 16, 2018 04:21 PM (jjaLl)
>>>Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:18 PM (ptqGC)
He's already rubbing one out into a teddy bear.
Posted by: PugBot Mahon at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (xPJvm)
And a soccer ball.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 16, 2018 04:21 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: Bandersnatch
With a 100 years of Leftist garbage polluting our body politic, we could stand for a red nation for at least 25 years.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 16, 2018 04:21 PM (KXVP7)
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And he won't be worse than a paper cut between the fingers, either.
And he's not going to worse than Adam Schiff....
Posted by: Axeman at February 16, 2018 04:21 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: Mia Love -I can't Vote For Trump - Also LDS at February 16, 2018 04:21 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: torabora at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (K0z2U)
Posted by: Unasked Questions at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (ayEGB)
Posted by: tu3031 at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (O5Q3r)
we're gonna need a bigger van
https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/964608650408054791
Posted by: ace at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (8rNrN)
And an extra cinder block.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (ptqGC)
Rosie's gotta go. His horrible judgement in this matter was dispositive as to his abilities. And how the H is he gonna stick around when FISA abuse is investigated? Unless, somehow, magically, everything we actually know about the FISA abuse is not true, or doesn't consitute outrageously inappropriate and/or criminal behavior, how does Rosie survive?
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (QDnY+)
and it's sad, Romney was our best hope in 2012. A non open border idiot, severly conservative
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (V3U1L)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (ptqGC)
...........
Why on earth did I read that as "homos"?
Posted by: wth at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 16, 2018 04:16 PM (+Dllb)
I'm not so sure McCain gets to meet his maker. His elevator only gets a down button.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (hUqh+)
Open Borders, for one. The Mormon Church says so.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 16, 2018 04:21 PM (3FBAK)
"Hillary as President"?
Or was that fruit hanging so low I basically just kicked it?
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (jjaLl)
Posted by: Mitt at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (UsCnO)
Republican and conservative state should be putting up senators with
more backbone.
He was elected governor of Massachusetts as a Republican. Which means he's basically a Democrat.
Posted by: tu3031 at February 16, 2018 04:16 PM (O5Q3r
Considering that Trump asked Hatch to stay and not retire, knowing that Romney was waiting to jump into Hatch's Senate seat is all you need to know regarding Romney's viewpoint about the Trump agenda.
Wait until he finds out, as Cruz did, that all Senators do is spend time on their reelection campaigns and only about 5% of their time is spent on issues.(Quote from Cruz, who said he was stunned when he first was elected Senator and witnessed all the other Senators going to fund raiser after fund raiser and election committee meetings)
Posted by: Jen the original at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (7Jr56)
This is the place!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (cp1if)
Um, no.
Chilkoot Charlie's is the place.
Or maybe Skinny Dick's Halfway Inn.
But not Utah.
No, not there.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 16, 2018 04:23 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: concrete girl at February 16, 2018 04:23 PM (SJBL7)
Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2018 04:23 PM (ayEGB)
Reminds me of the Monty Python song Finland:
Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I want to be,
Pony trekking or camping,
Or just watching TV,
Finland, Finland, Finland,
It's the country for me.
You're so near to Russia,
So far from Japan,
Quite a long way from Cairo,
Lots of miles from Vietnam.
Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I want to be,
Eating breakfast or dinner,
Or snack lunch in the hall,
Finland, Finland, Finland,
Finland has it all.
You're so sadly neglected,
And often ignored,
A poor second to Belgium,
When going abroad.
Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I quite want to be,
Your mountains so lofty,
Your treetops so tall,
Finland, Finland, Finland,
Finland has it all.
Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I quite want to be,
Your mountains so lofty,
Your treetops so tall,
Finland, Finland, Finland,
Finland has it all.
Finland has it all...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2018 04:23 PM (39g3+)
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Arf! Arf!
Stronger together!
*hic*
Russians!
*shart*
Like with a cloth?
*thud*
Posted by: Hillary at February 16, 2018 04:23 PM (MnkFD)
I'm not saying that the exes were put up to it. But actually I am.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2018 04:23 PM (n+6mJ)
This is the silver lining to Romney running. At least he will keep the McMuffin out.
Posted by: wooga at February 16, 2018 04:24 PM (6OGMR)
Purple today is deep, deep socialism circa 1880.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 16, 2018 04:24 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 16, 2018 04:16 PM (+Dllb)
I'm not so sure McCain gets to meet his maker. His elevator only gets a down button.
.
.
.And why do you think that is not his maker?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 16, 2018 04:24 PM (+Dllb)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 16, 2018 04:21 PM (3FBAK)
.............
A hole in the head?
Ow, it hurts.
Posted by: Sen. Drooling John (R) at February 16, 2018 04:24 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: bonhomme at February 16, 2018 04:20 PM (iv0p7)
Sorry, didn't mean to offend. Don't have a clue about the "underwear", it does seem odd to old Episcopalian.
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 04:24 PM (7qsff)
Posted by: Retired Sgt. at February 16, 2018 04:24 PM (Ws/Aw)
You'd say "Hello" to him, he'd respond with "DAMN IT, I HATE MORMONS! STUPID MAGIC FREAKING UNDERWEAR!"
Posted by: Hikaru at February 16, 2018 04:24 PM (CMbMd)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:24 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 16, 2018 04:24 PM (3FBAK)
Posted by: southcentralpa at February 16, 2018 04:24 PM (ciVet)
Posted by: Hillary! at February 16, 2018 04:11 PM (O5Q3r)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HILLARY HAD NO TIES TO NEW YORK BEFORE SHE MOVED THERE AND RAN FOR SENATOR.
Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (QQ+il)
be funny if the only big Repub loss this year is Romney losing to a Dem.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (ILitO)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (VpIIl)
It must drive him crazy the Boy Scout life he lived and Trump of all people wins the Presidency.
Posted by: Maritime at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (lKmt3)
So why, of all days, do they drop the indictment today? The FBI had a massive f-up...and it's getting worse...they were warned...this distracts from the FBI screw ups...like the shiny object flood the zone strategy.
Posted by: Baba Yaga at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (aKXET)
Posted by: Cosda at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (Ku8hs)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (6FqZa)
Oh yes he can. He's going to step right in to McCain's role except without flashing his medals. You want to see flaccid policy, Romney's the guy.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (H8S+R)
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Jennifer Lawrence is pretty cute, but she's dumber than the average actress, and that's pretty dim.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM
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The stupid exudes from her like Preparation-H from the applicator.
Posted by: irright at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (pMGkg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (ptqGC)
...........
Why on earth did I read that as "homos"?
Posted by: wth at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (HgMAr)
Me, too. So, what's the answer?
Posted by: Shep at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (jjaLl)
Devil won't want him, going to be scared he'll trip on the way in and set off a missile that'll wreck the place.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (k1TUh)
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Lemon juice on a paper cut.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (MnkFD)
Every faith has weird stuff, its just the weird stuff of our own faith is familiar and comfortable, like the crazy traditions and stuff in your family that others are confused by. What matters is not how odd or unreasonable it seems, but how true it is in the end.
If its crazy but true, that's good. If its reasonable but false, that's bad.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2018 04:26 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Decaf at February 16, 2018 04:26 PM (/3+Sg)
Posted by: weft cut-loop "
Yeah, kinda what I'm thinkin' too.
Effem.
They've been ruling as if I didn't exist for decades now, I'm very okay with returning the favor. With compound interest.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 16, 2018 04:26 PM (H0hPC)
Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2018 04:26 PM (wPiJc)
But it's not really a matter of political preference or style - FFS, the country is in very bad shape, Trump may be the last real chance for a sharp course correction, and we have states like UT sending people like Mitt to DC. It's a damn close-run thing as it is - failing, in some ways, actually. Trump is crippled by the Senate GOP. That doesn't change via personnel changes, I'd like to see the plausible game plan for any real or sustainable progress in Trump's first term.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2018 04:26 PM (QDnY+)
I consider it a done deal.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 16, 2018 04:26 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: Zombie Brigham Young at February 16, 2018 04:26 PM (r9UYA)
Yeah ... he will be.
Orin mostly bitched about how "unseemly" things had become, and Why Can't We Be Friends ?
Romney is going to collude with Progressives to remove Trump.
Just because it's a Republican Win ... doesn't necessarily mean it's a You and Me Win.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 16, 2018 04:27 PM (fiGNd)
Maybe Bill Kristol should apply for his chief of staff.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (VpIIl)
I'll bet Glenn Beck would cut a bitch for that job.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:27 PM (ptqGC)
___________________________________
Crazy ex at your wedding.
Posted by: Penfold at February 16, 2018 04:27 PM (Fbt5B)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (fuK7c)
Didn't work out too good in 2001-2007.
Posted by: golfman at February 16, 2018 04:27 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Seems legit at February 16, 2018 04:27 PM (U+nHb)
Posted by: Jihadi at February 16, 2018 04:27 PM (bE2ic)
Posted by: DaveM at February 16, 2018 04:27 PM (WWC3Y)
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2018 04:27 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2018 04:27 PM (axZ9x)
Romney lives in MA, people.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 16, 2018 04:27 PM (F5+ro)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 16, 2018 04:24 PM (+Dllb)
I got nothin'
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 16, 2018 04:27 PM (hUqh+)
Posted by: My Cousin Vinny at February 16, 2018 04:28 PM (MnkFD)
K now, some of the morons are LDS. Me for instance.
Posted by: bonhomme
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As I have said before, all of the Mormons that I have worked with and have known have been exceptionally reliable. Mitt is just Mitt, to assume or assign his persona to the LDS is foolish.
I won't make assumptions about Methodists or Hillary just because she is one.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2018 04:28 PM (Zdm89)
Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2018 04:26 PM (wPiJc)
Well, I can see Spenard from my house. So there.
And Sarah Palin can see Lake Louise from hers.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 16, 2018 04:28 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (VpIIl)
I think Mike Huntsman has that all sewn up. He speaks Chinese, you know.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 16, 2018 04:28 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (k1TUh)
====================
Great.
Posted by: grammie winger - God Loves You, Don't Be Stupid, at February 16, 2018 04:28 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (ptqGC)
...........
Why on earth did I read that as "homos"?
Posted by: wth at February 16, 2018 04:22 PM (HgMAr)
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I have an idea...
Posted by: Siggy Freud at February 16, 2018 04:28 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: Hillary! at February 16, 2018 04:11 PM (O5Q3r)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HILLARY HAD NO TIES TO NEW YORK BEFORE SHE MOVED THERE AND RAN FOR SENATOR.
Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER
IT'S ALSO FUNNY BECAUSE HILLARY LIKES TO BAG CARPET.
Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at February 16, 2018 04:28 PM (bsPVH)
The automaker is partnering with for-profit vocational school Universal Technical Institute to open a training workshop at Camp Pendleton, a Marine Corps base near San Diego. It is the first time a premium automotive brand has opened an institute like this on a military base in the U.S., BMW said Friday.
A pilot group of nine students will start a 16-week training program on Feb. 26. Once they graduate, BMW will help them find jobs at American BMW dealerships.
Outstanding
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2018 04:28 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 16, 2018 04:29 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: Seems legit
_________
Yes, not a tin foil hat type conspiracy.
Just like the Pope is with immigration as well.
Posted by: Maritime at February 16, 2018 04:29 PM (lKmt3)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2018 04:28 PM (Zdm89)
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You don't need a reason. They're Methodists!
Posted by: grammie winger - God Loves You, Don't Be Stupid, at February 16, 2018 04:29 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Just about all actors are insecure and needy.
Posted by: Mitt! at February 16, 2018 04:29 PM (+Tibp)
Red Dog Saloon
Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at February 16, 2018 04:27 PM (gwPgz)
I was there three years ago. Only went in because it was still open on a Sunday evening, the football game was on, and we were starving. It was pouring down rain and we were positively miserable, waiting for the ferry to take us across the Gulf.
The boy liked the black bear climbing the wall to eat the hunter.
That's about all there was to like about it.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 16, 2018 04:30 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: Under Fire at February 16, 2018 04:30 PM (r9UYA)
Megan also said last weekend that her dad is 100% with it mentally.
Uh huh. They must believe none of us have ever known someone in their 80's with a glioblastoma.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 16, 2018 04:30 PM (7Jr56)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 16, 2018 04:30 PM (fA1SL)
be funny if the only big Repub loss this year is Romney losing to a Dem.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (ILitO)
Nah. He'll go down to an 80 YO Socialist.
Posted by: golfman at February 16, 2018 04:30 PM (48QDY)
I live in Connecticut, who I vote for makes no difference because I'm going to lose.
I was sort of making a hands across the aisle point but I didn't make it well so I'll stop.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2018 04:30 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2018 04:30 PM (wc+Nc)
Posted by: wth at February 16, 2018 04:30 PM (HgMAr)
I just spend 4 days with another Navy Doc who is a Mormon and he is a staunch conservative and not for open borders one bit and he is from Utah
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (SjImc)
So the FBI knew since Jan. 5 that this Cruz psycho was ready to go on a murdering rampage at any time and they did nothing about it? Can't even.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (ptqGC)
If your religion is dependent for survival on immigrants with serious inability to understand English and understand the tenants of your religion -- well I'm not impressed. You might just be running a Ponzi scheme.
This applies to all religions.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (2FqvZ)
Utah would be crazy to elect him.
C R A Z Y ! ! !
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (MnkFD)
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Has he picked out a hitch yet? 'Cause I've got a little list.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (VtYtu)
Posted by: Marcus T
Unforts for Bill, Mitt's severely hetero.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (KXVP7)
Posted by: LGoPs at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (UThOJ)
Posted by: John (my dad's a mailman) Kasich at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2018 04:26 PM (39g3+)
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That's exactly what a Calvinist would say.
Posted by: grammie winger - God Loves You, Don't Be Stupid, at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (V3U1L)
No, actually. Feel free to read their open statement here:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7cw9v9j
As a matter of policy, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints discourages its members from entering any country without legal documentation, and from deliberately overstaying legal travel visas.
...
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is concerned that any state legislation that only contains enforcement provisions is likely to fall short of the high moral standard of treating each other as children of God.
The Church supports an approach where undocumented immigrants are allowed to square themselves with the law and continue to work without this necessarily leading to citizenship.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (iv0p7)
Posted by: Seems legit at February 16, 2018 04:32 PM (U+nHb)
____________________________________
Already on it.
Posted by: John McCain's Tumor at February 16, 2018 04:32 PM (MnkFD)
The answer was as a plain as looking at an electoral map and seeing that if you could pump up white non-college turnout from depressed levels you'd win the middle of the country and the White House.
I saw Trump doing exactly that and it's why I picked him to win quite early in the process.
Mitt wouldn't (and couldn't) see this because he's a Martian.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2018 04:32 PM (n+6mJ)
Posted by: KWDreaming at February 16, 2018 04:32 PM (mBmTz)
I won't make assumptions about Methodists or Hillary just because she is one.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Your right in the sense that Mitt's problem is not his religion, although I do think it cost him votes in 2012. Mainly because I knew normally Republican voters saying it was an issue for them.
But my issue is that Mormons swoon for this carpetbagger that used to be Massachusetts Governor and has no roots in Utah because he's a celebrity Mormon.
If Mitt was say a Presbyterian, he'd have ZERO chance of winning that seat in Utah.
Posted by: Maritime at February 16, 2018 04:32 PM (lKmt3)
Well, he obviously thinks he's lock. Note his condescending immigration line, Utah welcomes people, not like Washington
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 04:15 PM (7qsff)
So Trump runs against Washington and wins. Therefore Mitt will do it too. Wouldn't it be funny if Mitt runs against "Washington" wink wink, and loses.
Prolly not cause MITT!!!
But would be funny to see him standing there with a big dumb haaaandsome WTF look on his face.
And I like Mitt. LOL
Posted by: Hot Fudge Brownie Delight Fellow at February 16, 2018 04:32 PM (ymnmz)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (k1TUh)
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I'm in the I hate McPain club, but he can't be blamed for that. The other stuff, hell ya.
Posted by: auscolpyr at February 16, 2018 04:32 PM (suO/a)
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 16, 2018 04:32 PM (V3U1L)
This is the place!
Posted by: Mike Hammer
********
Well, it's no Hail, Hail, Oh What the Hail Peruvia!
Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2018 04:33 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 16, 2018 04:33 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 16, 2018 04:33 PM (VtYtu)
home in the desert and he was getting stronger every day. Apparently,
I'm supposed to believe that.
Megan also said last weekend that her dad is 100% with it mentally.
Uh huh. They must believe none of us have ever known someone in their 80's with a glioblastoma.
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Like Royal Tenenbaum eating cheeseburgers and fries and telling his family he's dying from stomach cancer.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 16, 2018 04:33 PM (ks6bw)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 16, 2018 04:33 PM (ymnmz)
Posted by: golfman at February 16, 2018 04:30 PM (48QDY)
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"to" or "on"?
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2018 04:33 PM (fPTiZ)
Posted by: DaveA at February 16, 2018 04:33 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 04:34 PM (7qsff)
@MittRomney
I am running for United States Senate to serve the people of Utah and bring Utah's values to Washington.
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I look forward to your consoling election night chocolate milk binge, you globalist fraud.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 16, 2018 04:34 PM (JPEYg)
Huh.
*files papers to run for Senator of Rome, Italican*
Posted by: Sharkman at February 16, 2018 04:34 PM (+BKF+)
Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2018 04:33 PM (wPiJc)
Is that sung to the tune of O Canada?
Because I've never know the words to that, and just keep repeating "O Canada" over and over....
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 16, 2018 04:34 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: Buzzion at February 16, 2018 04:34 PM (3UhN+)
Mitt's being a jackass on his own.
Posted by: Seems legit at February 16, 2018 04:34 PM (U+nHb)
I love our our ruling class only half-assed pretends to live the jurisdictions they represent.
Romney lives in MA, people.
WRONG!!!
Romney changed his Twitter account a few months ago to say he is from Utah.
How dare you question Twitter!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 16, 2018 04:34 PM (UsCnO)
What achievements make up his sterling record?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2018 04:35 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2018 04:35 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 16, 2018 04:33 PM (VtYtu)
*beats head on desk*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:35 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Buzzion at February 16, 2018 04:35 PM (3UhN+)
So the FBI knew since Jan. 5 that this Cruz psycho was ready to go
on a murdering rampage at any time and they did nothing about it? Can't
even.
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They were holding off and trying to maneuver so they could join his white supremacist group.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 16, 2018 04:35 PM (ks6bw)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:35 PM (8+Ozj)
NBC can't help but go to commercials every three fvcking minutes.
And their coverage is about 50% bullshit 'human interest' stories. HOWEVER, now the stories seem geared towards people with zero attention span. They are like 45 seconds long. I remember longer profiles back when I was younger than 29.
I just wanted to watch the dudes fly off the long jump.
Instead, I get mind-numbing pablum.
Again, two people jump, and back to commercials.
Screw that noise. I'd rather have 'Wagon Train' on in the background.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 16, 2018 04:35 PM (8iiMU)
it's just business to them.
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2018 04:36 PM (fPTiZ)
That's sort of retarded.
The Church supports an approach where undocumented immigrants are allowed to square themselves with the law and continue to work without this necessarily leading to citizenship.
First of all, there's no such thing as "undocumented immigrants".
Secondly, once an alien breaks the law by trying to force himself onto our territory and impose himself on us there is no reason to even think that he should be afforded any opportunity to "square themselves". He needs to leave, either by deportation or under his own power to sneak back across the border.
I like Mormons. They're very hard working people and very successful, but I have absolutely no patience and no tolerance for organizations that openly espouse giving aid and comfort to an invasion of illegals. None, whatsoever.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 16, 2018 04:36 PM (8gDQu)
This applies to all religions.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (2FqvZ)
At the end of the day ... Mitt and his ilk just want a more obedient electorate that will work cheaper.
Mitt and his ilk do not subscribe to a single political party.
I've said, and saying again, and will continue to say ... Republicans will propose Gun Confiscation in my lifetime.
Now here's a corollary ... Democrats will propose Restrictions on Collective Bargaining around the same time.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 16, 2018 04:36 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 16, 2018 04:36 PM (VtYtu)
The Guv has a point.
With everything else going on, bet Wray never thought it would be some 19YO psycho that would bring him down.
Posted by: golfman at February 16, 2018 04:36 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Buzzion at February 16, 2018 04:35 PM (3UhN+)
These things fade from importance once you are dead.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 16, 2018 04:36 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Just about all actors are insecure and needy.
Posted by: Mitt!
She really easy and gives a great b
Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at February 16, 2018 04:36 PM (Ws/Aw)
The Church supports an approach where undocumented immigrants are allowed to square themselves with the law and continue to work without this necessarily leading to citizenship.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (iv0p7)
Well, isn't that sweet. Amnesty. For the children of God.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 16, 2018 04:36 PM (7Jr56)
I'm not so sure. I rather suspect we'll see a shift more to the right, if anything. The LDS church leader was pretty much down and out for a few years, and then died. While he was sick, I suspect a lot of church policy was being directed by one of the chief deputies who actually had been a refugee in Germany at one point as a kid, and clearly had a soft spot for refugees and immigrants.
Well, the new Church leadership was announced and that fellow was not in it. Instead, the former chief justice of the Utah Supreme court, and one of the most despised LDS people by the LGBT crowd, is now the number 2 LDS person. I suspect that the LDS church is going to significantly go back to the right, not that they ever really went leftist like Pope Francis. So I'm not sure how much Romney will really get from the LDS church.
Posted by: Vanceone at February 16, 2018 04:37 PM (zzW7w)
It's in the lead-in, which refers to Mueller's taking over the then pending Comey-led investigation of Russki interference. This included the DNC/Podesta hacking, if you dig back to what Comey testified about to Congress.
Not that Comey was really going to investigate, but instead rely on the 17 agencies. Mueller too.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2018 04:37 PM (n+6mJ)
I saw a column about Rombley picking up the torch from McCain to return real Republicanism to D.C.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 16, 2018 04:33 PM (VtYtu)
He's getting a toomah too?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 16, 2018 04:37 PM (8iiMU)
I didn't see "gee. Liars on the Internet. How unsurprising" Or "Zuckerberg to be brought up on charges of colluding with Communists...and with Russia"
Posted by: Downcast at February 16, 2018 04:37 PM (O49wK)
I am sick of Judge Nepolitano....
Posted by: KWDreaming at February 16, 2018 04:32 PM (mBmTz)
Agreed. What is with a strange looking NY State district judge laying on the law for Fox viewers?
He must own the pizza parlors?
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 04:37 PM (7qsff)
Posted by: BluesFish at February 16, 2018 04:37 PM (jp3C4)
Posted by: 13times at February 16, 2018 04:37 PM (K3B2k)
CARPETBAGGER!!!
Posted by: Hillary! at February 16, 2018 04:11 PM (O5Q3r)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HILLARY HAD NO TIES TO NEW YORK BEFORE SHE MOVED THERE AND RAN FOR SENATOR.
Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER
IT'S ALSO FUNNY BECAUSE HILLARY LIKES TO BAG CARPET.
Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at February 16, 2018 04:28 PM (bsPVH)
Holy crap a double Rothlisberger. Nobody goes double Rothlisberger and survives.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (ymnmz)
Rush calls him ADD Eddie Munster or something.
Judge Nap has been nuts for a few years IMO.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (r9UYA)
>>>I guess Glenn Beck will cry himself to sleep with tears of joy.
>>>Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:18 PM (ptqGC)
He's already rubbing one out into a teddy bear.
Posted by: PugBot Mahon at February 16, 2018 04:19 PM (xPJvm)
And a soccer ball.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 16, 2018 04:21 PM (8gDQu)
Perhaps we should ask Glenn Beck to get on the campaign trail for Romney. Worked for Ted Cruz.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (jxbfJ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer
I'm not sure if she is part of a church membership. She may have been confirmed and hasn't been in church since then much so she may be like one of those folks people keep on the membership rolls forever just because.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (8+Ozj)
No worries. I'm not offended.
LDS garments represent solemn and sacred promises we make in the Temple to honor our spouse and God.
There are definitely warm fuzzy Mormon stories people share of someone being protected from physical harm while wearing garments, but for most of us, garments are a reminder of our Temple covenants.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (iv0p7)
NBC can't help but go to commercials every three fvcking minutes.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 16, 2018 04:35 PM (8iiMU)
Pretty much why I quit way back.
Before the personal interest stories.
Posted by: golfman at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (48QDY)
I didn't see "gee. Liars on the Internet. How unsurprising" Or "Zuckerberg to be brought up on charges of colluding with Communists...and with Russia"
Posted by: Downcast at February 16, 2018 04:37 PM (O49wK)
Even though it started a year before PDT declared? That's some pretty left logic there
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: Max Power at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (q177U)
Mitt Romney's value as a political force is completely overrated.
What achievements make up his sterling record?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2018 04:35 PM (oVJmc)
Sharting in the room and blaming it on the President is not an easy thing to do, my friend.I am worthy and ready to serve.
Posted by: Mitt at February 16, 2018 04:39 PM (UsCnO)
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CARPETBAGGER!!!
Posted by: Hillary! at February 16, 2018 04:11 PM (O5Q3r)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HILLARY HAD NO TIES TO NEW YORK BEFORE SHE MOVED THERE AND RAN FOR SENATOR.
Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER
IT'S ALSO FUNNY BECAUSE HILLARY LIKES TO BAG CARPET.
Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at February 16, 2018 04:28 PM (bsPVH)
Holy crap a double Rothlisberger. Nobody goes double Rothlisberger and survives.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (ymnmz)
Based on her performance at the 9/11 ceremony, and while stepping into the airplane -- she's hit the carpet a few times.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 16, 2018 04:39 PM (jxbfJ)
But what if liberals have infiltrated and taken over the leadership of the religion? Most of the members will feel obligated to obey and vote for whomever the leadership endorses, or vote for the candidate that is (at least nominally) a member of their religion. Because people are in general stupid. Gabba gabba one of us! If the candidate is of X religion, the other members will think "It's my duty. Surely they wouldn't do anything to harm me". Like mindless idiot feminists in Germany that vote for Merkel merely because she's a woman. Are the populace of Utah capable of getting "woke" and electing someone else? I've got a bad feeling about this. I think Mormons are more loyal to their leadership than Catholics, and now that it is compromised they'll just vote for whatever is placed before them.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 16, 2018 04:39 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:39 PM (8+Ozj)
it's just business to them.
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2018 04:36 PM (fPTiZ)
That's libel.
Catholics are as independent minded as any other group of religious folk. Most of us are conservative and believe in sovereignty.
The Church has laws which are published that state that a country has every right to defend it's borders.
There are asshats who claim to be Catholic just like there are asshats who claim to be atheists. The Church is not in the business of business, but of saving souls.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 16, 2018 04:40 PM (7UW64)
allowed to square themselves with the law and continue to work without
this necessarily leading to citizenship"
Um .....
That is idiotic, immoral, and irresponsible crap right there, and fully justifies any vituperative description.
There is no such thing as "undocumented" immigrants. Legal, or illegal.
"Square themselves with the law" = amnesty, which is the dumbest, most irresponsible, and immoral thing possible, as it will inevitably lead to a great exacerbation of all the evils of mass illegal migration. Duh.
And even a real court (not like those now ruling the US) would snicker while striking down - properly - ANY scheme for a modified-limited-hangout (i.e., some bizarre gray area status of permanent legal residence without citizenship path). And that court wouldn't have to be engaging in the ludicrous arrogant garbage of a Kennedy, just making s**t up, slandering millions, and dictating a change in the culture based on laughable "constitutional" fabrications.
So, it *does* look like that church's policy position is no better than Gutierrez, La Raza, or the ACLU.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2018 04:40 PM (QDnY+)
We need to shout that we ALL think that Black Panther is the Bestest Marvel Movie EVAH!!!
That'll kill it deader than dead in two weeks, tops.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2018 04:40 PM (k1TUh)
The answer was as a plain as looking at an electoral map and seeing that if you could pump up white non-college turnout from depressed levels you'd win the middle of the country and the White House.
I saw Trump doing exactly that and it's why I picked him to win quite early in the process.
Mitt wouldn't (and couldn't) see this because he's a Martian.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2018 04:32 PM (n+6mJ)
This reminds me of that clip of Obama saying those jobs aren't coming back, Then Trump lowers taxes and Bam Jobs start coming back.
I agree with Trump in using leverage of Future Government contracts and companies moving overseas.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 16, 2018 04:40 PM (dKiJG)
Not happening. Romney is Mormon. Salt Lake City is Mormon. That's all he really needs. And no other Mormon is going to "outshine" Mitt because legacy, history, name recognition, and money.
The only state where Mitt would be a favorite is the junction of a) not in any place he lives, and b) Utah.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 16, 2018 04:40 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (jxbfJ)
I'll never ever forget seeing a picture of Cruz sitting at Beck's desk like a little kid in the principal's office. Ugh. Beck wanted him to kiss his ring or something.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:40 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Amazon Suggestion: at February 16, 2018 04:40 PM (rdl6o)
Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at February 16, 2018 04:40 PM (Ws/Aw)
What achievements make up his sterling record?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2018 04:35 PM (oVJmc)
He has achieved one of the most loss:win ratios in political history, only missed out on one additional loss by opting to not run for reelection to the only office he ever won. He's like the Cleveland Browns of politics.
Posted by: mugiwara at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM (RChUT)
I prefer the Trump plan, where you only marry one hot woman & simply bang the rest.
Posted by: West at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM (1Rgee)
If somebody's got demon voices in their head, we're not surprised when they commit a violence and slaughter.
However, apparently to the press, if it were demon voices + right wing politics--they have to go with right-wing politics.
And that makes every right-winger "just like him", demon voices or no.
Ah, when you break the complexities of the world down to stupid...
Posted by: Axebot at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM (vtcmf)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Votermom's phone at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM (+YreE)
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Just about all actors are insecure and needy.
Posted by: Mitt!
Really? Why is that?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:39 PM
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They crave the approval of others. It's kind of built in to the gig.
Posted by: irright at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM (pMGkg)
Read his wiki for some interesting family background.
http://tinyurl.com/j6qyjeo
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 04:42 PM (7qsff)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 16, 2018 04:42 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Amazon Suggestion: at February 16, 2018 04:42 PM (rdl6o)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, disgusted by lame and stupid punditry at February 16, 2018 04:42 PM (XfaeW)
Posted by: Donny & Marie at February 16, 2018 04:42 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2018 04:43 PM (yM/Yl)
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at February 16, 2018 04:43 PM (vtcmf)
I see, and that would make them different from most of the population in what way?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:43 PM (8+Ozj)
Assholes.
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at February 16, 2018 04:43 PM (jjaLl)
Posted by: Monk at February 16, 2018 04:43 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: NCKate at February 16, 2018 04:43 PM (Wd1rb)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 16, 2018 04:40 PM (ptqGC)
Just read that Cruz had demon voices in his head.
Posted by: Axebot at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM (vDqXW)
o_O
Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2018 04:43 PM (y87Qq)
Perhaps we should ask Glenn Beck to get on the campaign trail for Romney.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM
Yes. Definitely yes. Glenn Beck is the best chance of getting Mitt into the Senate. A couple front page articles about Glenn re-baptizing Mitt in the River Utah and Mitt is in.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 16, 2018 04:43 PM (2FqvZ)
There are definitely warm fuzzy Mormon stories people share of someone being protected from physical harm while wearing garments, but for most of us, garments are a reminder of our Temple covenants.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (iv0p7)
Religious Jews have underwear of that sort, too. They're called "tzit-tzit". In the Torah Jews are instructed to make tassels on the corners of their garments. You can see these overtly when Jewish men (and now some silly Jewish women who wish they were men) wear talit in synagogue. Tzit-tzit are undershirts with the tassels that religious Jews wear every day.
I used to wear these when I was going to orthodox Hebrew school back in kindergarten and first grade.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 16, 2018 04:43 PM (8gDQu)
Are there not local Utah politicians who have been quietly working for
years to position themselves for this Senate seat? Are they going to
just step aside for the Yankee intruder?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM (QQ+il)
That would be the Hunstmans, Romney's family arch rivals. They have already lost out.
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 04:43 PM (7qsff)
Good grief, no wonder the O-limp-dick ratings are so bad.
NBC can't help but go to commercials every three fvcking minutes.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 16, 2018 04:35 PM (8iiMU)
Pretty much why I quit way back.
Before the personal interest stories.
Posted by: golfman at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (48QDY)
Another reason the Olympics suck is that last night I watched every skater who was not one of the medalist basically fall all over the place like an old SNL skit. JEEBUS.
And the that Rippon guy---"I am not he best skater or that talented but I am the best SHOWMANNNNNN!!!" (jazz hands) Degrade the sport much? SILVER line--hing. (sing song voice) I get to piss on Pence!!!! Ugly American indeed.
But I will say this. I like Johnny Weir's and Tara Lipinski's commentary.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 16, 2018 04:44 PM (ymnmz)
Interesting.
Posted by: Seems legit at February 16, 2018 04:44 PM (U+nHb)
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 16, 2018 04:44 PM (5fRCd)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM (QQ+il)
Exactly what I was going to ask, but as usual I get beaten to the punch by The Horde.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 16, 2018 04:45 PM (wYseH)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 16, 2018 04:43 PM (8gDQu)
Sort of like the flasks we Episcopalians take on retreats?
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 04:45 PM (7qsff)
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That is a given considering his recent tweets and statements. He has spent more energy criticising his side than Obama and the Democrats throughout 2012 campaign.
Posted by: Decaf at February 16, 2018 04:45 PM (/3+Sg)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM (QQ+il)
Pretty sure that's why the Utah RNC head was unhappy yesterday. Mitt declared, Mitt wins. Done deal.
Posted by: Ann at February 16, 2018 04:45 PM (jtHQy)
When will the Soros indictment be coming down?
Remember all the One Name Trolls here during the election?
Posted by: Don Q. at February 16, 2018 04:45 PM (NgKpN)
I know a lobbying team owned by a Mormon(and bankrolled by the Kochs), and a local state rep Russel Pearce (who also is a Mormon) was making national waves with his SB1070 law that allowed police officers to detain suspected illegal immigrants. He also spearheaded a slew of successful bills that went after illegals. These bills were passing with lopsided majorities and were gaining steam around the nation.
The Mormon elders got together and wanted Pearce taken out, so they hired this team that had tight connections with that community. Spent big money. They thought it gave Mormons a "David Duke" type persona to have figures like Pearce so they funded a recall effort and had him replaced with an open border Mormon Republican who ended up winning.
But if you talk to any Mormon and ask them where is there biggest demographic of new recruits, they're going to say Hispanics.
This doesn't mean every Mormon thinks this way, but the leadership certainly does. Its the same disconnect between American catholics and the Vatican.
Posted by: Maritime at February 16, 2018 04:45 PM (lKmt3)
I like my Anglican underwear.
Posted by: NCKate at February 16, 2018 04:43 PM (Wd1rb)
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Let's see it then!
Posted by: Huck Follywood, disgusted by lame and stupid punditry at February 16, 2018 04:45 PM (XfaeW)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HILLARY HAD NO TIES TO NEW YORK BEFORE SHE MOVED THERE AND RAN FOR SENATOR.
Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER
IT'S ALSO FUNNY BECAUSE HILLARY LIKES TO BAG CARPET.
Posted by: BEN ROTHLISBERGER at February 16, 2018 04:28 PM (bsPVH)
Holy crap a double Rothlisberger. Nobody goes double Rothlisberger and survives.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (ymnmz)
It's Ace of Spades. Where else on the planet would anyone try a double Rothlisberger?
When Putin reads it, he will shake in his boots.And Adam Schiff will piss his pants.
Posted by: Mitt at February 16, 2018 04:45 PM (UsCnO)
Wish me luck!
Posted by: Votermom's phone at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM (+YreE)
Well, you made it to the gate. That's an accomplishment and the hardest part.
Enjoy the friendly skies.
Posted by: golfman at February 16, 2018 04:46 PM (48QDY)
Have at it, you miscreants. Good luck with your golden pathway to insanity.
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at February 16, 2018 04:46 PM (vtcmf)
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If that were true, Hillary would have been in the senate as (D - Hell).
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 16, 2018 04:46 PM (fqUgw)
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I see, and that would make them different from most of the population in what way?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:43 PM
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It makes them more insecure and needy, like the guy said.
Posted by: irright at February 16, 2018 04:46 PM (pMGkg)
I'm sure some are. However, performing Shakespeare or Sheridan or in Oklahoma as a college student doesn't make you insecure and needy. It means you like Shakespeare or Sheridan or Oklahoma.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:46 PM (8+Ozj)
OT-That is a terrible story in the sidebar about a family temporarily
losing custody of their 17 year old because they refuse to give her
transgender drugs. Why are underage kids even allowed to do this if the
parents protest?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:35 PM (8+Ozj)
My blood boiled when I read that. If the kid is suicidal, perhaps she needs to be treated (committed?) for that. She has less than 1yr when she is legally an adult. Then she can do what she wants.Massive government and medical overreach here.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 16, 2018 04:46 PM (jxbfJ)
Don't bother with the broadcast packages. Computer. Use it.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2018 04:46 PM (QDnY+)
This applies to all religions.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 16, 2018 04:31 PM (2FqvZ)
But it's so EMBARRASSING being around the wrong kind of white people.
Posted by: American Catholic Charities at February 16, 2018 04:47 PM (V3U1L)
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you must be talking about a different Catholic church than the one i was raised in and that i still have to deal with today here in Lost Angels #Failifornia...
they are all about the illegals/dreamers/open borders, and it's for the numbers, not the souls.
YMMV, but facts are positive defense against any claim of libel
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2018 04:47 PM (fPTiZ)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 16, 2018 04:47 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 16, 2018 04:47 PM (fqHZs)
Holy crap a double Rothlisberger. Nobody goes double Rothlisberger and survives.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 16, 2018 04:38 PM (ymnmz)
It's Ace of Spades. Where else on the planet would anyone try a double Rothlisberger?
When Putin reads it, he will shake in his boots.And Adam Schiff will piss his pants.
Posted by: Mitt at February 16, 2018 04:45 PM (UsCnO)
No one has ever completed four double Rothlisbergers in the Olympics. Just sayin.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 16, 2018 04:47 PM (ymnmz)
Posted by: grammie winger
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Just what I would expect from someone who is a fellow traveler of the jello salad cabal.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2018 04:47 PM (y3sT9)
Wish me luck!
Posted by: Votermom's phone at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM (+YreE)
Have a great trip!
Posted by: Ann at February 16, 2018 04:48 PM (jtHQy)
That sound about right?
Posted by: Random Internet Asshole at February 16, 2018 04:48 PM (cuVCI)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 16, 2018 04:25 PM (6FqZa)"
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He comments like a Dem.
Posted by: Decaf at February 16, 2018 04:48 PM (/3+Sg)
If you can handle more than one at a time, I pray you get everything coming to you.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 16, 2018 04:48 PM (U7cLk)
Huh.
*files papers to run for Senator of Rome, Italican*
Posted by: Sharkman at February 16, 2018 04:34 PM (+BKF+)
Romney has had a home in Utah for decades. He also has a home in southern California, close to where Anne had her dressage horses in training.
He sold his house in Utah that he had owned since the Olympics in 2009, then in 2013, bought another one in Park City that is a stunning log home. He also owned a second home in one of the cities in Utah. According to the Washington Post, he sold his home in Massachusetts after his failed pres. bid and then in 2015, registered to vote in Utah.
Pics of the log house in Park City.
https://tinyurl.com/yd87o55p
Someone upthread noted that they aren't sure what happened with the CA house. He has a lake house in NH, also, LOL.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 16, 2018 04:49 PM (7Jr56)
That sound you hear is the sound of the swamp trying to get their vacation days in order.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 16, 2018 04:49 PM (V3U1L)
Wut?
Posted by: Milt Rombley at February 16, 2018 04:49 PM (398bZ)
Amnesty to me means illegals get citizenship. The position they offer says they continue to work, but don't necessarily get citizenship.
Work with no citizenship to me = work visa. Then the visa expires and they go away.
You might argue once the work visa expires, they'll continue to stay in the US. Ok, but they're still not citizens, so it's not amnesty.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 16, 2018 04:49 PM (iv0p7)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at February 16, 2018 04:49 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Muldoon at February 16, 2018 04:49 PM (wPiJc)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2018 04:46 PM (QDnY+)
Thanks.
Posted by: golfman at February 16, 2018 04:49 PM (48QDY)
That sound about right?
Posted by: Random Internet Asshole
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there are several distinct rules for the internet.
Posted by: ISIS Twitter at February 16, 2018 04:50 PM (V3U1L)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:50 PM (8+Ozj)
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I'm sure some are. However, performing Shakespeare
or Sheridan or in Oklahoma as a college student doesn't make you
insecure and needy. It means you like Shakespeare or Sheridan or
Oklahoma.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:46 PM
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It also doesn't make you an actor or actress, which is what we were talking about.
Posted by: irright at February 16, 2018 04:50 PM (pMGkg)
Then there's the notion that men will become gods on planet Kobol when they die, and women can go there too, if they have procreated enough.
At any rate, it's an odd blend of Jewish mysticism, with a sprinkling of Christianity, and a huge load of Masonry.
Mormons are generally good folks, upstanding citizens, and productive if insular. They are huge up here and I grew up around them. They actually had more kids per family that us Catholics, and that was saying something.
Made for epic kick the can games after dinner on my block, I can tell you that.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 16, 2018 04:51 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:51 PM (8+Ozj)
Seems (seems) there's a chance to pick up two seats in AZ (seriously - that is how one has to view this, on the vital issues), with Flake and McCain gone. Hatch to Romney would be, at best, a draw, and at worst a lost seat (on the key issues). Trump and the country need every useful GOP senator they can get. Not optimistic about that right now.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2018 04:52 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 16, 2018 04:52 PM (VtYtu)
That said, I don't think there is nearly as much "We want a GOPe squish!" as sometimes the local elite establishment GOP thinks there is. There's a pretty high level but not quite yet civil war going on between the conservatives and the GOPe here in Utah.
It's why we could elect both Mike Lee and Orrin Hatch at the same time. One from both camps, really.
Posted by: Vanceone at February 16, 2018 04:53 PM (zzW7w)
Will he be charged with providing false identities to the now infamous Russian Baker's Dozen that single handedly altered the course of global politics?
He must be brought before a UN tribunal and made to answer for his crimes against humanity.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at February 16, 2018 04:53 PM (kPobv)
Mitt will vote against Trump on key matters because of "Utah values."
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2018 04:53 PM (n+6mJ)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at February 16, 2018 04:54 PM (r9UYA)
Whenever you perform in a show you are an actress or an actor-at the tim. If you were only talking about a particular groups of actors of actresses you should say so. If people make $50,000 year performing but also work PT as a bartender are they all insecure and needy?. How about if they are a screenwriter but also part of the actors union?. Are they insecure and needy?. Are we only talking about Hollywood stars or what?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:54 PM (8+Ozj)
Posted by: That F'ing Guy at February 16, 2018 04:54 PM (19qqP)
Yeah, they of a group who have absolutely no impact on The Horde whatsoever. Trollsters are sniffed out in, typically, under a couple minutes when the morons are engaged. Same could be said on pretty much any socio-political site that's been in business for more than a year.
So this great impact via RUSSIANS, enough so that our esteemed IC is exaggerating their interference to save its own ass, is a pimple on a whale's ass.
But getting Soros into cuffs would be its own reward. The man is a menace to humanity.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 16, 2018 04:54 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: Under Fire at February 16, 2018 04:55 PM (r9UYA)
I am shocked he has a house in Park City. We were told to buy there because "that is where the heathens live". Someone said his house is in Holladay which would make sense. Some fine estates there (every house we have been to there has been lovely beyond words ie $$$$$$$$$).
Posted by: Ann at February 16, 2018 04:55 PM (jtHQy)
Utah is a massive disappointment. They should be spitting out solid conservatives like a Pex dispenser, but somehow they all go bad.
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at February 16, 2018 04:55 PM (7A6l6)
Leftist are going nuts with the "NRA HAS BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS!!!!!"
Posted by: KWDreaming at February 16, 2018 04:55 PM (mBmTz)
Religious Jews have underwear of that sort, too.
I have a "talisman" that I also believes keeps me from harm. I keep it hidden under my clothes as well.
Ruger, GP100, .357, Stainless, 4".
Turns out, when you're 6' and 215 lbs ... you can actually conceal carry the friggin' thing ... as long as you wear a loose shirt untucked.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 16, 2018 04:55 PM (fiGNd)
So, obviously fake, I am not married, BUT should I report this shit to the Postal Inspector or the FBI.
I am sure the FBI will be on this like flies on shit.
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 04:56 PM (7qsff)
Posted by: bonhomme at February 16, 2018 04:49 PM (iv0p7)
Illegals don't break in to the US trying to be citizens. THey break into here to stay and work. Letting them stay is beyond amnesty - it's aiding and abetting, since that is all they wanted to steal from us in the first place. Letting them work, on top of that, is even worse of an accessory to their crime.
Offering illegals any sort of a path to citizenship is nothing less than treason - giving aid and comfort to an invasion.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 16, 2018 04:56 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: bonhomme
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To me, Amnesty means we're not kicking you out. A form of a pardon for the crime of breaking in.
Granting citizenship goes above and beyond.
If say a legal immigrant applies for citizenship after meeting our criteria, we don't call it granting amnesty.
Posted by: Maritime at February 16, 2018 04:56 PM (lKmt3)
Mitt's not gonna win the primary. And if he does, an "independent" will spoil the race and the D will win.
Which will make Mitt Romney a bigger loser than his loser father.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 16, 2018 04:56 PM (I+Vth)
If someone comes here illegally and gets to stay, it's amnesty.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2018 04:57 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:57 PM (8+Ozj)
OK. I just a letter from some guy, mailed from Richmond, VA. Says he knows about my "affair" and wants $8750 to keep it quiet, and, that I should send it to him via bitcoins. Sends a entire page of instruction.
I specifically wrote bitcoins OR cash.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 16, 2018 04:58 PM (I+Vth)
Just about all actors are insecure and needy.
Really? Why is that?
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They crave the approval of others. It's kind of built in to the gig.
Please clap!
Posted by: Jeb! at February 16, 2018 04:58 PM (IqV8l)
Petunia and Begonia, where have ye gone?
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 16, 2018 04:58 PM (juCZM)
Report it to somebody. That's illegal. It's a scam.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:58 PM (8+Ozj)
So, obviously fake, I am not married, BUT should I report this shit to the Postal Inspector or the FBI.
I am sure the FBI will be on this like flies on shit.
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 04:56 PM (7qsff)
Well maybe, but alternatively, you could send me $500. I take care of everything. I guarantee he will take it. I make him an offer he can't refuse
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2018 04:58 PM (SjImc)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:57 PM (8+Ozj)
Totally depends on the size of their tits. Or hooters. And willingness to show pics.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 16, 2018 04:59 PM (fiGNd)
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Whenever you perform in a show you are an actress
or an actor-at the tim. If you were only talking about a particular
groups of actors of actresses you should say so. If people make $50,000
year performing but also work PT as a bartender are they all insecure
and needy?. How about if they are a screenwriter but also part of the
actors union?. Are they insecure and needy?. Are we only talking about
Hollywood stars or what?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 04:54 PM
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Obviously we're not going to agree on this and that is perfectly fine. I'm moving to the new thread. See you there!
Posted by: irright at February 16, 2018 04:59 PM (pMGkg)
Posted by: Buzzion at February 16, 2018 05:00 PM (cAnNx)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2018 04:57 PM (QQ+il)
No. It's aiding and abetting.
If someone steals a car, then amnesty is just not trying him for the theft. But he doesn't get to keep the car. Illegals are trying to steal residency. AMnesty is kicking them out but not holding their infiltration against them in the future. That is amnesty. Letting them stay is allowing to keep their ill-gotten gains. That is far beyond amnesty.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 16, 2018 05:00 PM (8gDQu)
The intending illegal migrants aren't stupid, or cut off from information. They will (correctly) interpret anything than full enforcement as positive - it really is a binary situation, practically speaking.
Anything other than enforcement is, quite rationally, interpreted as a green light. The logic of this is rather obvious, but if real-life examples are needed, review the record since Simpson-Mazzoli ('86 act, w/ amnesty).
If one's only objective is to prevent *citizenship* for current/future illegals, then one is not thinking very clearly. 95% of the enormous damage done by the current collapse in rule of law is done without any connection to citizenship. Besides this, if you think that permanent gray-area non-citizenship will sustain scrutiny by "courts", I wished I lived in your Alternate Universe USA.
As thought exercise, completely exclude the moral toxin of amnesty (and while doing so, overlook the moral imbecility of churches and people who think amnesty is admirable, as opposed to despicable). Just dealing with the practicalities, it is an absolutely stark binary choice between enforcement (AND securing the border) - and anything/everything else.
The '86 act was chock full of tweaks and complexities and trade-offs. It was a complete sham. Amnesty (itself beset by massive fraud) happened - nothing else did (there wasn't even a head-fake at doing any of the rest).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2018 05:01 PM (QDnY+)
They're probably NOT showing their tits, hooters or boobies if they're in Christian theatre unless they play the part of an ornithologist. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2018 05:01 PM (8+Ozj)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 16, 2018 04:58 PM (I+Vth)
HEY THAT'S RIGHT! ACE arrest this guy!! Obviously Russian.
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 05:02 PM (7qsff)
Yep. One can doll it up all they like; it's as simple as that.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 16, 2018 05:02 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: Malcolm Tent at February 16, 2018 05:03 PM (kPobv)
$500. I take care of everything. I guarantee he will take it. I make
him an offer he can't refuse
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2018 04:58 PM (SjImc)
Er, would you throw in a tooth cleaning?
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 05:04 PM (7qsff)
Nash, who was born in South Africa and raised in Canada
1) Go Home
2) Give back all the money you earned here
3) Fuck you
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2018 05:04 PM (SjImc)
So if an illegal commits a felony and gets sent to prison for a few years then shipped home, that's amnesty?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 16, 2018 05:04 PM (iv0p7)
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 05:04 PM (7qsff)
Sure but then you'll be in my debt
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2018 05:05 PM (SjImc)
That's self-centered jackassery.
Posted by: Orson-bot at February 16, 2018 05:06 PM (bjKTU)
Posted by: bonhomme
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No, he's receiving punishment for crimes committed here, then being sent home.
Amnesty is like forgiveness. We're forgiving people for the specific crime of coming here illegally.
Posted by: Maritime at February 16, 2018 05:07 PM (lKmt3)
Note "gets to stay". You amended "shipped home".
If imprisoned and then released into the wild, then amnesty.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 16, 2018 05:07 PM (H8S+R)
Er, would you throw in a tooth cleaning?
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 05:04 PM (7qsff)
Sure but then you'll be in my debt
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2018 05:05 PM (SjImc)
Yeah, you take checks right, ha ha
Posted by: George at February 16, 2018 05:08 PM (7qsff)
BP reports that attempted illegal border crossing activity is back near levels seen in the horrible summer of 2016. It plummeted when Trump took office (and BP's entire body posture changed).
But, quite predictably and rationally, is now at crisis levels again. Why? Booming US economy. And, apart from BP's much more serious posture, no real change in illegal immigration policy. Breaking up MS-13 and deporting illegal migration activists is good stuff, but irrelevant to the mass phenomenon. No deterrent effect whatsoever.
Citizenship is irrelevant. The tender (and misguided, and remarkably ignorant and often narcissistic) moral sensibilities of amnesty proponents are irrelevant. All that matters is results, illegals are not stupid or irrational, they respond to concrete results.
Actually this yuuuuge issue is an excellent, devastatingly discouraging example of how critical thinking, and even basic familiarity with facts, are no longer part of American public life.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2018 05:10 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Maritime at February 16, 2018 04:45 PM (lKmt3)
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Yeah, my sense is that their leadership has been compromised, and the herd will just mindlessly follow along. Another institution spoiled by liberalism according to the iowahawk formula.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 16, 2018 05:11 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 16, 2018 05:12 PM (y3aQB)
That point ignores the conversation preceding.
The LDS Church's position is people should be allowed to continue to work and not necessarily gain citizenship. Presumably that would be on a work visa. A work visa ends, at which point they leave.
Grump then argued that's amnesty because they "get to stay".
I pointed out a scenario that proves amnesty = "gets to stay" as applied is a bit silly.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 16, 2018 05:13 PM (iv0p7)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2018 04:41 PM
Pretty sure that's why the Utah RNC head was unhappy yesterday. Mitt declared, Mitt wins. Done deal."
It's not "Mitt declared" - it's "behind the scenes, the Mormon Hierarchy declared." Mitt is just the beneficiary of their largesse.
People who haven't been to Utah, especially people back east, really have no idea how much of a "company town" Utah is, except it's not a town, it's a state, and the Company is the Mormon Church. When 2 Mormons of equal standing run against each other, then there can be an honest race - BUT when the Church leadership clearly picks their candidate as they have now, then there is no race. It's a done deal, and Romney's seat is a done deal.
There will be no serious primary challenger - not Chaffetz, not Huntsman, because one quiet word from the Hierarchy and every donation and every point of support is turned off overnight. Just like there will be no serious indy candidate,, without Church backing there is NO money and NO advertising.
The Church has let it be known that they want Romney, and that is all there is to it. That's how Utah politics goes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2018 05:14 PM (k1TUh)
First is mostly discretionary action on the part of the administration. We haven't seen it yet. It's actually long past the time where enforcement priorities should have been shifted towards the workplace. No congressional action or support really required. Enormous, quick impact (the way that unskilled wage growth has occurred, already, has shocked many economists, and if a serious enforcement campaign were launched on illegal labor, little doubt that welcome trend would be greatly reinforced).
Border security still hostage to a GOP that, on balance, opposes its base, and the huge majority of the electorate, on key issues (O-care, illegal immigration, most prominently).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2018 05:14 PM (QDnY+)
In that, I think you're wrong. I'm convinced that Romney's faith is real, and I think he sees himself as being the official spokesman for the Mormon Church in Washington for a long time to come.
I honestly believe he thinks that is a much more important job than President of the United States is.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2018 05:17 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 16, 2018 05:18 PM (Pby3z)
Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 16, 2018 05:19 PM (y3aQB)
Amnesty/enforcement are binary. Hypothetical scenarios as laid out here are - sorry - just stupid and unserious. Anything reasonably interpreted by the adversary as amnesty IS amnesty, practically speaking.
Absent hermetic border security AND internal enforcement of the type never before seen, any amnesty guarantees continuation and massive expansion of the problem. Period.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2018 05:19 PM (QDnY+)
My answer to that is we need to tighten up enforcement on citizen verification at work and schools.
For example: right now employers are required to check eVerify for employees. But if eVerify comes back no or unverifiable, the employer can actually be sued for no hiring that candidate based on that information. This has to be changed.
The IRS knows which SSANs are being used fraudulently. Use that information to track down the 112 people in farm counties sharing the same SSAN.
etc.
Find them in schools. Find them at businesses. Fine the crap out of businesses employing illegals. Find them on welfare programs.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 16, 2018 05:20 PM (iv0p7)
Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 16, 2018 05:22 PM (y3aQB)
Being in prison hardly constitutes 'getting to stay' but, if you let them stay after their sentence ends then yes, it's an amnesty for their crime of illegal entry.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2018 05:24 PM (QQ+il)
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'We Must Do Better'- Jeff Sessions Orders FBI Review After Failure to Stop Shooter
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BUT RIP VAN SESSIONZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 16, 2018 05:25 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: David Santacroce at February 16, 2018 06:04 PM (Zkc/a)
Posted by: Economically useless and malignantly aggrieved at February 16, 2018 06:35 PM (WPxnj)
Obama called, Mitt, and wants his demagoguery back.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 16, 2018 07:47 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Koblog at February 16, 2018 09:32 PM (Nmvf6)
Posted by: Born Free at February 16, 2018 10:06 PM (W0UX0)
Posted by: R Daneel at February 16, 2018 10:13 PM (IL6PC)
Posted by: frankg at February 17, 2018 12:21 AM (xvk6q)
John in Indy
Posted by: John in Indy at February 17, 2018 12:42 AM (bIkfu)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 17, 2018 01:27 AM (39g3+)
He's an immensely talented, very admirable man, but that's not enough. Mitt Romney blanched when it was time to fight for America.
Posted by: Brendon Carr at February 17, 2018 02:48 AM (XFIAI)
https://tinyurl.com/ydhhlyyh
Even the Utah GOP isn't buying this bullshit
https://tinyurl.com/y7pqshzu
I hope Utah State Auditor John Dougall kicks Romney's ass
https://tinyurl.com/ycpqsh56
Posted by: Trigger Warning at February 17, 2018 02:49 AM (YRXy3)
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AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings)
George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)