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Finally
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2018 07:09 PM (aC6Sd)
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Corgis called
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2018 07:10 PM (aC6Sd)
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...and Guns!!?
Stud!
Stud!
Posted by: Bro. Bill at February 18, 2018 07:11 PM (YuWtr)
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No dress pron?
*sad face*
*sad face*
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 07:11 PM (eMKNe)
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Its a mental health problem, a artical pointed out most young killers
( around 70 %) have no live in father
( around 70 %) have no live in father
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2018 07:12 PM (aC6Sd)
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BTW...you speak for me about guns and gun rights and the moral rot of our nation.
Posted by: Bro. Bill at February 18, 2018 07:13 PM (YuWtr)
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Every time I hear someone wants to take guns away from Law Abiding citizens...
I say... please... go look at Venezuela... or Iran... or China...
Go look at what the Nazis did to the Jews in WW2...
Then go read some history and realize that ALL Governments eventually fail....
And as Progressives DO NOT think we are anything really special? Then historically... we are due...
I say... please... go look at Venezuela... or Iran... or China...
Go look at what the Nazis did to the Jews in WW2...
Then go read some history and realize that ALL Governments eventually fail....
And as Progressives DO NOT think we are anything really special? Then historically... we are due...
Posted by: Don Quixote at February 18, 2018 07:14 PM (NgKpN)
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Half the kids these days are on Psych meds. Serotonin Reuptake inhibitors. Ever read the warnings and contra-indications on the paperwork? Suicidal thoughts, hyper aggressiveness, homicidal feelings, megalomania, a lack of empathy, Self harming. And on and on. Sounds like texbook mass killers. All of them were on thisbshit. This kid Cruz, Adam Lanza, the Aurora theater shooter, almost all of the others. Big Pharma and try AMA is pushing thisbshit down all the kids throats.
Posted by: Oncisor 1183 at February 18, 2018 07:16 PM (yhWwl)
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Love the 4 gauge video. Reminds me of me when I was 7 yrs old with double barreled 10 gauge.
Posted by: Fritz at February 18, 2018 07:17 PM (bJ0w+)
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Last week I bought a (very slightly) used Mossberg 835 12 ga. 3 1/2" mag 28" Mod for one-nine-five U.S. I figure the poor schlub that bought it new ran a box of 3 1/2" mags through it and just said 'One mangy duck and a dislocated shoulder. Eff this.' I will put an extended tube on it and whammo! Another zombie-snuffer.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2018 07:18 PM (zLDYs)
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In a tweet, Neil DeGrasse Tyson explained his solution to school shootings. Bear in mind this quote is partial.
"perhaps having magnetic walls in every hallway/classroom of schools. As soon as shots are fired, the walls are automatically triggered and the guns just fly & stick to the walls. Problem solved."
"perhaps having magnetic walls in every hallway/classroom of schools. As soon as shots are fired, the walls are automatically triggered and the guns just fly & stick to the walls. Problem solved."
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 07:18 PM (eMKNe)
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Governments kill more people than common criminals ever could.
The only thing that prevents that is an armed and informed populace. Seeing the reaction of the media to mere children telling everyone else how it should be is telling.
The only thing that prevents that is an armed and informed populace. Seeing the reaction of the media to mere children telling everyone else how it should be is telling.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at February 18, 2018 07:18 PM (l7Kbv)
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Oh.... and there is a Calif Legislature idiot... who wants to outlaw LEGAL Concealed Carry, if there is a Protest going on...
So... you're leaving work... a protest hits... and you are now a felon...
Yeah.... OK....
Not to mention I guess you only can have ONE Right at a time... in her mind...
/spit
I did comment that its a good thing our Founders did not carry weapons to their mass protests... like at Breed's and Bunker Hill... oh.... wait...
So... you're leaving work... a protest hits... and you are now a felon...
Yeah.... OK....
Not to mention I guess you only can have ONE Right at a time... in her mind...
/spit
I did comment that its a good thing our Founders did not carry weapons to their mass protests... like at Breed's and Bunker Hill... oh.... wait...
Posted by: Don Quixote at February 18, 2018 07:18 PM (NgKpN)
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>>> If you hate something so bad that you are willing to lose your life; will gun control work?
It's time we banned murder.
It's time we banned murder.
Posted by: fluffy at February 18, 2018 07:19 PM (cHbmY)
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Yeah, finally.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:19 PM (HQfxm)
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A caller on Rush noted that the next mass shooter probably already owns the weapon(s) they will use. There already 300+ million guns here. New gun control laws to stop mass shootings would be as effective as new laws making murder even more illegal.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 18, 2018 07:19 PM (/zp4x)
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The DIYWTF link is bad.
Posted by: Traveling Man at February 18, 2018 07:20 PM (fIn37)
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My Priest at Mass this a.m. admonished those who are protesting guns and President Trump for this senseless killing.
He exclaimed that the absence of God in this child's life was to blame. The community where this child lived never exposed him to the Lord and where God is denied Satan appears.
He stated the protesters should be angry that God is and has been removed from children's lives in their community by our so called government "schools", community leaders and parents.
On guns, I found another neglected Polish Tantel in one of the pawn shops in my AO. I took her home for some tender loving care and Hoppe's #9.
He exclaimed that the absence of God in this child's life was to blame. The community where this child lived never exposed him to the Lord and where God is denied Satan appears.
He stated the protesters should be angry that God is and has been removed from children's lives in their community by our so called government "schools", community leaders and parents.
On guns, I found another neglected Polish Tantel in one of the pawn shops in my AO. I took her home for some tender loving care and Hoppe's #9.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 18, 2018 07:21 PM (EoRCO)
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The guy in the .410 vid isn't wearing hearing protection
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:22 PM (meYfp)
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Anyone here ever see this movie?
Surprised the studio didn't title it "Bring Me The Head of Richie Cunningham."
https://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-other-grand-theft-auto.html
Surprised the studio didn't title it "Bring Me The Head of Richie Cunningham."
https://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-other-grand-theft-auto.html
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 07:22 PM (eMKNe)
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Made the mistake of looking at farce book last night. The caterwauling of the left, including some of my relatives, made me almost physically ill. I concluded that it is a lost cause to engage them. They cannot be reasoned with.
Having come to that conclusion, I've also realized that the great American experiment is over. I have sadz.
Having come to that conclusion, I've also realized that the great American experiment is over. I have sadz.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:23 PM (HQfxm)
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Half the kids these days are on Psych meds. Serotonin Reuptake inhibitors. Ever read the warnings and contra-indications on the paperwork? Suicidal thoughts, hyper aggressiveness, homicidal feelings, megalomania, a lack of empathy, Self harming. And on and on. Sounds like texbook mass killers. All of them were on thisbshit. This kid Cruz, Adam Lanza, the Aurora theater shooter, almost all of the others. Big Pharma and try AMA is pushing thisbshit down all the kids throats.
Posted by: Oncisor 1183 at February 18, 2018 07:16 PM (yhWwl)
Amen brutha.
Posted by: Oncisor 1183 at February 18, 2018 07:16 PM (yhWwl)
Amen brutha.
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:23 PM (meYfp)
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If these young mass murders didn't have firearms they would be driving vehicles into crowds. Someone hell bent on murder would find a way.
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2018 07:24 PM (aC6Sd)
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RI Redbot, my advice is to take a look at Quora.
Gives me a little bit of hope, at least.
Gives me a little bit of hope, at least.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 07:24 PM (eMKNe)
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Still,waiting for Soggy Acres to dry out so I can commence to building my little range.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 07:25 PM (Sfs6o)
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testing
Posted by: Sweet Andy Licious at February 18, 2018 07:25 PM (Mo5Uy)
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:25 PM (meYfp)
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They didn't blame rental trucks for the run-down terrorist attacks and they didn't blame Boeing for 9-11.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 18, 2018 07:26 PM (oVJmc)
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Wow, never shot a 4 ga but when I worked in a cement plant during the Paleolithic Era, we used a tripod mounted 6 ga, IIRC, that shot slugs to knock down material rings inside of kilns.
It was Remington*s Masterblaster model.
And yes, we dismounted it and hand fired it out in the quarries.
Once. Bad idea.
It was Remington*s Masterblaster model.
And yes, we dismounted it and hand fired it out in the quarries.
Once. Bad idea.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 18, 2018 07:27 PM (tr2D7)
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My question for my liberal relatives is always, "who exactly is going to take my guns?" The only force that can disarm America is the military, and when they pull that lever, the bottom falls out.
Posted by: rammajamma at February 18, 2018 07:27 PM (oAlzZ)
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The men's pursuit biathlon today was a photo finish. French dude won. I'm not sure there were any Americans in the race, or if they were too far back to present a challenge.
Posted by: stace at February 18, 2018 07:28 PM (6HFDU)
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I was told by doctor to wear hearing protection, you can't gain loss back but you can stop further loss.
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2018 07:28 PM (aC6Sd)
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Still,waiting for Soggy Acres to dry out so I can commence to building my little range.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 07:25 PM (Sfs6o)
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Will tiny buffaloes roam?
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 07:25 PM (Sfs6o)
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Will tiny buffaloes roam?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 07:28 PM (9SkN+)
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Wow, never shot a 4 ga but when I worked in a cement plant during the Paleolithic Era, we used a tripod mounted 6 ga, IIRC, that shot slugs to knock down material rings inside of kilns.
It didn't damage the kilns ?
It didn't damage the kilns ?
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:28 PM (meYfp)
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The men's pursuit biathlon today was a photo finish.
Do bi-athletes shake Mike Pence's hand or not?
Do bi-athletes shake Mike Pence's hand or not?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 18, 2018 07:29 PM (oVJmc)
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If the news sensationalized shooting up a shopping mall as much as they do shooting in a school, then the next mass murder would be at the mall. Those little gun free zone signs on the doors would also help attract evil.
Posted by: Roy at February 18, 2018 07:29 PM (ABjxW)
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27 Willard from last thread....
I was only joking : qdpsteve
but thanks anyway,
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:25 PM (meYfp)
Rats!
I was only joking : qdpsteve
but thanks anyway,
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:25 PM (meYfp)
Rats!
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 07:30 PM (NWiLs)
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I was told by doctor to wear hearing protection, you can't gain loss back but you can stop further loss.
Posted by: Skip
WHAT ?
Posted by: Skip
WHAT ?
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:30 PM (meYfp)
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Will tiny buffaloes roam?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 07:28 PM (9SkN+)
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I'd settle for the skies not being cloudy all day.
Will tiny buffaloes roam?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 07:28 PM (9SkN+)
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I'd settle for the skies not being cloudy all day.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 07:30 PM (Sfs6o)
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Screen and train school employees who would be willing to conceal carry, and the schools would no longer be "gun free zones," and unacceptable as targets.
Posted by: Mr Peabody at February 18, 2018 07:31 PM (fSf/G)
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Yay!! Gun Thread!!!! Now back to work.....
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 07:31 PM (2sCft)
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Qdpsteve, just looked up Quora, but it needs farce book or google sign in. What's in there?
On a good note, I cooked up good .30-'06 inches at 100yds from lead sled. I'll take 1 moa any day of the week. I can't even shoot that on my own.
On a good note, I cooked up good .30-'06 inches at 100yds from lead sled. I'll take 1 moa any day of the week. I can't even shoot that on my own.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:31 PM (HQfxm)
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28 They didn't blame rental trucks for the run-down terrorist attacks and they didn't blame Boeing for 9-11.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 18, 2018 07:26 PM (oVJmc)
Ahem.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 18, 2018 07:26 PM (oVJmc)
Ahem.
Posted by: Dewey, Cheatum and Howe - tort lawyers at February 18, 2018 07:31 PM (ABjxW)
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I shot a ma deuce once with essentially no hearing protection. I'm pretty sure the damage was permanent.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 07:32 PM (9SkN+)
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35 The men's pursuit biathlon today was a photo finish.
Do bi-athletes shake Mike Pence's hand or not?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 18, 2018 07:29 PM (oVJmc)
I see what you did there...
Do bi-athletes shake Mike Pence's hand or not?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 18, 2018 07:29 PM (oVJmc)
I see what you did there...
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 07:32 PM (2sCft)
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My question for my liberal relatives is always, "who exactly is going to take my guns?" The only force that can disarm America is the military, and when they pull that lever, the bottom falls out.
Posted by: rammajamma at February 18, 2018 07:27 PM (oAlzZ)
Well ... I can tell you who'll vote to have them take a crack at it.
Republicans.
We've heard it here all week. "We've got to stop 'Crazy People' from getting guns". And if we don't - we'll lose our 2A rights.
Sound familiar ? Do I need to start naming names ? 'Cause I don't mind.
Everybody knows to keep an eye on Progressives. But me ?
I've learned to keep a close eye on Concerned Conservatives.
Posted by: rammajamma at February 18, 2018 07:27 PM (oAlzZ)
Well ... I can tell you who'll vote to have them take a crack at it.
Republicans.
We've heard it here all week. "We've got to stop 'Crazy People' from getting guns". And if we don't - we'll lose our 2A rights.
Sound familiar ? Do I need to start naming names ? 'Cause I don't mind.
Everybody knows to keep an eye on Progressives. But me ?
I've learned to keep a close eye on Concerned Conservatives.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 18, 2018 07:32 PM (fiGNd)
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It didn't damage the kilns ?
Posted by: JT
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Not if you used your head and aimed well. We'd shoot at the bottom of the ring where there was a big build up of material anyway. So, it wouldn't reach the refractory brick lining. Even if you shot straight down the entire length of the kiln, about 150 meters or so, the slug would soften quickly enough to just be a blog at the far end due to the extreme heat.
But, yeah - you'd have to be careful.
It didn't damage the kilns ?
Posted by: JT
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Not if you used your head and aimed well. We'd shoot at the bottom of the ring where there was a big build up of material anyway. So, it wouldn't reach the refractory brick lining. Even if you shot straight down the entire length of the kiln, about 150 meters or so, the slug would soften quickly enough to just be a blog at the far end due to the extreme heat.
But, yeah - you'd have to be careful.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 18, 2018 07:32 PM (tr2D7)
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We should be building bridges, not walls. Nor should we be promoting mass shootings and obesity.
Instead of the Gun Thread and the Food Thread we should have Fun Thread and the Good Thread.
Instead of the Gun Thread and the Food Thread we should have Fun Thread and the Good Thread.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 18, 2018 07:33 PM (/qEW2)
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Well, fat fingers. Somewhere in there was .75" at 100 yds.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:33 PM (HQfxm)
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The common thread is nutjob, in all the most recent high-profile incidents. Law enforcement failure and/or political corruption are common to most of them.
Bold predictions, Yogi Berra style (predictions are hard, especially about the future): no new "gun control" laws, no action whatsoever on ID'ing/containing the dangerously mentally ill.
I doubt anyone's talking about this whole topic by St Paddy's Day. Though I hope the Dems *do* add "gun control!!!!! eleventy!!!" to their agenda of sure-fire political catastrophes they've lashed themselves to, with the mid-terms in mind. So that step 1 (increasing GOP numbers, esp. in Senate) is accomplished. Step 2 - how to make those GOP majorities of any use to the country, in practice, remains a complete mystery.
Bold predictions, Yogi Berra style (predictions are hard, especially about the future): no new "gun control" laws, no action whatsoever on ID'ing/containing the dangerously mentally ill.
I doubt anyone's talking about this whole topic by St Paddy's Day. Though I hope the Dems *do* add "gun control!!!!! eleventy!!!" to their agenda of sure-fire political catastrophes they've lashed themselves to, with the mid-terms in mind. So that step 1 (increasing GOP numbers, esp. in Senate) is accomplished. Step 2 - how to make those GOP majorities of any use to the country, in practice, remains a complete mystery.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 07:33 PM (QDnY+)
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If you go to a professional sporting event there are barricades present. There are metal detectors present. There are funnel access points. There are plainclothes and uniformed law enforcement present. It is about time that schools started to acted more like sporting events rather than a soft target
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No. Just no. We do not need to turn every school into a mini TSA zone. Our problem is not that our schools don't look enough like a police state.
We need more liberty at schools. That means that all the adult employees should be allowed to carry firearms. Nutballs would be less inclined to target places that are not gun-free zones, and the ones that do can be met with force instead of targets.
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No. Just no. We do not need to turn every school into a mini TSA zone. Our problem is not that our schools don't look enough like a police state.
We need more liberty at schools. That means that all the adult employees should be allowed to carry firearms. Nutballs would be less inclined to target places that are not gun-free zones, and the ones that do can be met with force instead of targets.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 18, 2018 07:33 PM (pvjTE)
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Oh my, the uniforms for the US womens speed skaters put the camel toe as part of the uniform colors.
Oh my, the uniforms for the US womens speed skaters put the camel toe as part of the uniform colors.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 18, 2018 07:34 PM (r+sAi)
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Do bi-athletes shake Mike Pence's hand or not?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 18, 2018 07:29 PM (oVJmc)
I have no idea, but I bet Olympic athletes in the shooting sports trend more conservative. I know Kim Rhode is big on gun rights, for example.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 18, 2018 07:29 PM (oVJmc)
I have no idea, but I bet Olympic athletes in the shooting sports trend more conservative. I know Kim Rhode is big on gun rights, for example.
Posted by: stace at February 18, 2018 07:34 PM (6HFDU)
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I'm gay. I'm also not a biathlete, I'm an ice skater. A gay ice skater. Who's gay.
Posted by: Adam Rippon at February 18, 2018 07:35 PM (NWiLs)
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Its like known / unknowns.
You will never be able to hear better than you can now ( aid not counting) but you can stop further loss
You will never be able to hear better than you can now ( aid not counting) but you can stop further loss
Posted by: Skip at February 18, 2018 07:35 PM (aC6Sd)
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It didn't damage the kilns ?
Posted by: JT
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Not if you used your head and aimed well. We'd shoot at the bottom of the ring where there was a big build up of material anyway. So, it wouldn't reach the refractory brick lining. Even if you shot straight down the entire length of the kiln, about 150 meters or so, the slug would soften quickly enough to just be a blog at the far end due to the extreme heat.
But, yeah - you'd have to be careful.
Posted by: Tonypete
Holy shit !
How big were these kilns ?
Posted by: JT
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Not if you used your head and aimed well. We'd shoot at the bottom of the ring where there was a big build up of material anyway. So, it wouldn't reach the refractory brick lining. Even if you shot straight down the entire length of the kiln, about 150 meters or so, the slug would soften quickly enough to just be a blog at the far end due to the extreme heat.
But, yeah - you'd have to be careful.
Posted by: Tonypete
Holy shit !
How big were these kilns ?
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:35 PM (meYfp)
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Dang, stace, completely missed pursuit biathlon. And I checked the offerings since the morning. Must have been some highlights crammed into a broadcast package (which I don't watch)?
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 07:35 PM (QDnY+)
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49 Well, fat fingers. Somewhere in there was .75" at 100 yds.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:33 PM (HQfxm)
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We can help you with that!
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:33 PM (HQfxm)
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We can help you with that!
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 07:36 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 18, 2018 07:36 PM (r+sAi)
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Bigger than 8 is measured in bore. Such as 2 bore and 4 bore which are half and quarter pound of lead.
Posted by: Ratus at February 18, 2018 07:36 PM (1O+2u)
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Biathlon was pretty awesome. No crashes, but a photo finish.
Posted by: Roy at February 18, 2018 07:36 PM (ABjxW)
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Got some really nice Hogue hardwood grips for my Ruger GP100 5" in stainless, and my wifes GP100 4" blued. I love them and feel great in my hand. Now, they almost look too purty to shoot.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 07:36 PM (2sCft)
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Funny how the gay didn't help that dude win a medal, I was assured by nbc that it matters.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 18, 2018 07:36 PM (r+sAi)
Even the extra 50 points for being fabulous didn't get xer a medal.
Funny how the gay didn't help that dude win a medal, I was assured by nbc that it matters.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 18, 2018 07:36 PM (r+sAi)
Even the extra 50 points for being fabulous didn't get xer a medal.
Posted by: Roy at February 18, 2018 07:37 PM (ABjxW)
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They cannot be reasoned with.
Having come to that conclusion, I've also realized that the great American experiment is over. I have sadz.
Posted by: RI Redbot
I think it's ok to be a little optimistic even if it's in vain. America's kind of worth it especially considering how many fought and died for her to get this far.
We owe it to them to be a bit more cheerful of our prospects.
No, that doesn't mean we can be complacent in the slightest or irrational, or wall-eyed.
RE: the asshole Left. They ain't going anywhere and it usually takes a catastrophe for them to shut up for a few years. I'm whistling past the graveyard here, because I don't want to see one occur (and I sure as shit don't want another GOPe-lead Iraq disaster.)
Take solace in the small victories where they can be had. If you're inclined and see some who may be open to reason, just ask questions of them and get them to flesh out their own unreasoned beliefs.
EG: gun stuff. I've found they have a hard time answering questions like "If this tragedy is sufficient to void the 2nd Amendment, would you be ok for the other Amendments to be removed by other tragedies? Or is there a right that you're not willing to give up?"
Having come to that conclusion, I've also realized that the great American experiment is over. I have sadz.
Posted by: RI Redbot
I think it's ok to be a little optimistic even if it's in vain. America's kind of worth it especially considering how many fought and died for her to get this far.
We owe it to them to be a bit more cheerful of our prospects.
No, that doesn't mean we can be complacent in the slightest or irrational, or wall-eyed.
RE: the asshole Left. They ain't going anywhere and it usually takes a catastrophe for them to shut up for a few years. I'm whistling past the graveyard here, because I don't want to see one occur (and I sure as shit don't want another GOPe-lead Iraq disaster.)
Take solace in the small victories where they can be had. If you're inclined and see some who may be open to reason, just ask questions of them and get them to flesh out their own unreasoned beliefs.
EG: gun stuff. I've found they have a hard time answering questions like "If this tragedy is sufficient to void the 2nd Amendment, would you be ok for the other Amendments to be removed by other tragedies? Or is there a right that you're not willing to give up?"
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 18, 2018 07:38 PM (KXVP7)
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I'm gay. I'm also not a biathlete, I'm an ice skater. A gay ice skater. Who's gay.
Posted by: Adam Rippon at February 18, 2018 07:35 PM (NWiLs)
Thanks for clarifying that. It was so hard to tell your sexual orientation.
Posted by: Adam Rippon at February 18, 2018 07:35 PM (NWiLs)
Thanks for clarifying that. It was so hard to tell your sexual orientation.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 07:38 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:38 PM (meYfp)
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54 I'm gay. I'm also not a biathlete, I'm an ice skater. A gay ice skater. Who's gay.
Posted by: Adam Rippon at February 18, 2018 07:35 PM (NWiLs)
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Oh. So you're a buttathlete then.
Posted by: Adam Rippon at February 18, 2018 07:35 PM (NWiLs)
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Oh. So you're a buttathlete then.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 07:38 PM (9SkN+)
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I see what you did there...
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 07:32 PM (2sCft)
Oops, that one flew right past me.
.....
Rhomboid, I didn't check the listings but instead just had NBC on in the background, and suddenly noticed a biathlon was on.
I see what you did there...
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 07:32 PM (2sCft)
Oops, that one flew right past me.
.....
Rhomboid, I didn't check the listings but instead just had NBC on in the background, and suddenly noticed a biathlon was on.
Posted by: stace at February 18, 2018 07:40 PM (6HFDU)
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Also on the good news front, I completely broke down my Remington 7400 this week after it malfed at the range. Crappy plastic ejector port cover broke and popped the sear spring out of the trigger group.
The book says you have to get the bolt out to replace the plastic cover. Not true as it turns out, but I did. Pain in the ass reassembling. One tiny roll pin in the cocking/loading handle took me two hours to get in. Only got it in when I took the new plastic cover off; then it popped right in. Turns out you can fit that cover in by judicious bending after everything is together.
An educational experience. I love you tube.
The book says you have to get the bolt out to replace the plastic cover. Not true as it turns out, but I did. Pain in the ass reassembling. One tiny roll pin in the cocking/loading handle took me two hours to get in. Only got it in when I took the new plastic cover off; then it popped right in. Turns out you can fit that cover in by judicious bending after everything is together.
An educational experience. I love you tube.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:41 PM (HQfxm)
Posted by: Ratus at February 18, 2018 07:41 PM (1O+2u)
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Holy shit !
How big were these kilns ?
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The rotary kilns I was familiar with were about 12 ft in diameter and approx 150 meters long. Looks like a big paper towel tubes lying sideways. The feed end was in its own building where the raw material would be dumped in and the burner end had a 12 inch wide x 20 ft in length burner the burned pressurized coal dust. There was a 10 foot or so drop along the length of the kiln so gravity pulled the material down from the feed end to the burner end where it dropped onto cooling grates.
Hell of a piece of equipment.
How big were these kilns ?
Posted by: JT
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The rotary kilns I was familiar with were about 12 ft in diameter and approx 150 meters long. Looks like a big paper towel tubes lying sideways. The feed end was in its own building where the raw material would be dumped in and the burner end had a 12 inch wide x 20 ft in length burner the burned pressurized coal dust. There was a 10 foot or so drop along the length of the kiln so gravity pulled the material down from the feed end to the burner end where it dropped onto cooling grates.
Hell of a piece of equipment.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 18, 2018 07:41 PM (tr2D7)
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Hunter safety courses and very active church communities are very important. Pray for our nation.
Posted by: Jmel at February 18, 2018 07:42 PM (vZGlk)
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69 An educational experience. I love you tube.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:41 PM (HQfxm)
I agree. You Tube has been invaluable for me in servicing my firearms.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:41 PM (HQfxm)
I agree. You Tube has been invaluable for me in servicing my firearms.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 07:43 PM (2sCft)
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Someone kills someone with a gun = all gun owners
Cop does something horrible = all cops
Black man does something = stop being racist
Muslim does something = you get the idea
Cop does something horrible = all cops
Black man does something = stop being racist
Muslim does something = you get the idea
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 18, 2018 07:43 PM (ks6bw)
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NBC hired Rippon and I was reminded how glad I am that I haven't watched so much as one second of their Olympics shit.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 18, 2018 07:43 PM (398bZ)
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Reloading. For those for whom it makes sense, and who have an interest, highly recommend.
"Makes sense" sort of revolves around your monthly/annual round count. If you shoot 3,000 rounds a year of all calibers, not worth the trouble. As your numbers get to double/triple that, it might make sense. Other factor is *what* you're shooting. Just 9mm and 38spl and .40 range fodder? Or expensive rifle ammo?
Another reason to reload is to customize. Handgun or rifle. For any number of reasons. A very nice benefit of reloading.
How-tos: seek out the better online videos on reloading in general, from manufacturers and individuals, UToob. Buy a good reloading manual - read it cover to cover.
Lurk, read, research at good online forums. The High Road has a great reloading sub-forum, where newbies are welcome and get good advice - even free samples of components from other posters; there are other such forums, including in big states the reloading forums on your state gun-nut website.
For replacing factory ammo, with substantial savings, and giving yourself the option of customizing loads, it is *easy*. No great technical or mechanical background or genius required.
"Makes sense" sort of revolves around your monthly/annual round count. If you shoot 3,000 rounds a year of all calibers, not worth the trouble. As your numbers get to double/triple that, it might make sense. Other factor is *what* you're shooting. Just 9mm and 38spl and .40 range fodder? Or expensive rifle ammo?
Another reason to reload is to customize. Handgun or rifle. For any number of reasons. A very nice benefit of reloading.
How-tos: seek out the better online videos on reloading in general, from manufacturers and individuals, UToob. Buy a good reloading manual - read it cover to cover.
Lurk, read, research at good online forums. The High Road has a great reloading sub-forum, where newbies are welcome and get good advice - even free samples of components from other posters; there are other such forums, including in big states the reloading forums on your state gun-nut website.
For replacing factory ammo, with substantial savings, and giving yourself the option of customizing loads, it is *easy*. No great technical or mechanical background or genius required.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 07:43 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 07:44 PM (Sfs6o)
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Mis. Hum. That 3rd paragraph you wrote here says it all.
Nihilism is what we are experiencing, pure and simple.
It is the playground of Satan.
If nothing matters, then nothing matters.
Nihilism is what we are experiencing, pure and simple.
It is the playground of Satan.
If nothing matters, then nothing matters.
Posted by: navybrat at February 18, 2018 07:46 PM (w7KSn)
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I got a gun grabber post from a friend on Facebook. She likes to have discussions but her friends are all lefties like her. Something I said on my last response must have struck a nerve because I noticed about a dozen responses. I have no intention of looking at any of them. They have no real interest in stopping school shootings. Their interest is in confiscating guns. Unfortunately I am starting to feel that we will need another Civil War. Only this time, it will be the West Coast that will be occupied when they lose.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 18, 2018 07:46 PM (Lqy/e)
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8---......All of them were on thisbshit. This kid Cruz, Adam Lanza, the Aurora theater shooter, almost all of the others. Big Pharma and try AMA is pushing thisbshit down all the kids throats.
Posted by: Oncisor 1183 at February 18, 2018 07:16 PM (yhWwl)
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Doctors aren't pushing it and even Big Pharma isn't the number one promoter.
The first place to point a finger is at the schools themselves.
Posted by: Oncisor 1183 at February 18, 2018 07:16 PM (yhWwl)
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Doctors aren't pushing it and even Big Pharma isn't the number one promoter.
The first place to point a finger is at the schools themselves.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 18, 2018 07:47 PM (0jtPF)
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Weasel!
Took a lot of your comments to heart last week.
Worked up that load with IMR 4350 pushing 180 g. Hornady Interlokt soft point.
The savage I'm shooting hates 150 g., likes 168 and loves 180. I'll have to look to see if there's anything heavier.
Took a lot of your comments to heart last week.
Worked up that load with IMR 4350 pushing 180 g. Hornady Interlokt soft point.
The savage I'm shooting hates 150 g., likes 168 and loves 180. I'll have to look to see if there's anything heavier.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:47 PM (HQfxm)
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We will always have evil among us. It has been thus since Cain slew Abel. You can't legislate or medicate away the depravity of the human heart.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 07:47 PM (NWiLs)
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I got my M57 Tokarevs cleaned up and oiled. I won't get to shoot them until the 3rd so almost 2 weeks to just work their actions and figure out whether to keep the glockish trigger safety or strip it down to the military halfcock only.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 18, 2018 07:47 PM (yQpMk)
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You can blame the guns. You can the blame the NRA. You can blame gun owners. You can blame the 2nd Amendment.
I blame the psychiatrists and the likely psych medications the lunatic was on.
I blame the psychiatrists and the likely psych medications the lunatic was on.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 07:47 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:48 PM (meYfp)
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Someone kills someone with a gun = all gun owners
Cop does something horrible = all cops
Black man does something = stop being racist
Muslim does something = you get the idea
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 18, 2018 07:43 PM (ks6bw)
It all comes down to Who Do You Trust To Project Deadly Force ?
For blacks ... typically, it's blacks.
For whites ... typically, it's blues.
Cop does something horrible = all cops
Black man does something = stop being racist
Muslim does something = you get the idea
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 18, 2018 07:43 PM (ks6bw)
It all comes down to Who Do You Trust To Project Deadly Force ?
For blacks ... typically, it's blacks.
For whites ... typically, it's blues.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 18, 2018 07:48 PM (fiGNd)
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83. Old skool. Always go old skool. And mazel tov!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 07:48 PM (fA1SL)
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77 Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:38 PM (meYfp)
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She's more stabby than whittley!
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 07:44 PM (Sfs6o)
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Bluebell seems to have picked up some bad habits during her brief stint in maximum security prison....
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She's more stabby than whittley!
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 07:44 PM (Sfs6o)
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Bluebell seems to have picked up some bad habits during her brief stint in maximum security prison....
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 07:48 PM (2sCft)
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Try this page to log in to Quora. Q is a fairly new site where people ask questions of all types publicly, looking for answers, and for whatever reason, the quality of conversation on a lot of political questions/threads is IMHO better, more thoughtful and mature.
I particularly enjoy when some lib writes something like "Why don't Republicans care about other people?" And they get one, two, three or more answers from conservatives, turning the entire premise of the question around on the libs.
Anyway, according to this page, you can set up an account with just an email addy.
https://www.quora.com/?time=1519001564009653&uid=63882997&unh=7dd487ae663c03eaa63cb3b837e4132c
I particularly enjoy when some lib writes something like "Why don't Republicans care about other people?" And they get one, two, three or more answers from conservatives, turning the entire premise of the question around on the libs.
Anyway, according to this page, you can set up an account with just an email addy.
https://www.quora.com/?time=1519001564009653&uid=63882997&unh=7dd487ae663c03eaa63cb3b837e4132c
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 07:49 PM (eMKNe)
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We need more liberty at schools. That means that all the adult employees should be allowed to carry firearms. Nutballs would be less inclined to target places that are not gun-free zones, and the ones that do can be met with force instead of targets.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 18, 2018 07:33 PM (pvjTE)
We protect our President with guns. We protect our Governors and Congressmen with guns. We protect our banks and our airports with guns. We even allow our celebrities to protect themselves with guns.
We protect our children and their schools with signs that say, "Gun Free Zone".
We need more liberty at schools. That means that all the adult employees should be allowed to carry firearms. Nutballs would be less inclined to target places that are not gun-free zones, and the ones that do can be met with force instead of targets.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 18, 2018 07:33 PM (pvjTE)
We protect our President with guns. We protect our Governors and Congressmen with guns. We protect our banks and our airports with guns. We even allow our celebrities to protect themselves with guns.
We protect our children and their schools with signs that say, "Gun Free Zone".
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 18, 2018 07:49 PM (tMFgx)
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Uh oh...
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 07:49 PM (eMKNe)
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Someone kills someone with a gun = all gun owners
Cop does something horrible = all cops
Black man does something = stop being racist
Muslim does something = you get the idea
FBI does something unjust and unconstitutional....
Someone kills someone with a gun = all gun owners
Cop does something horrible = all cops
Black man does something = stop being racist
Muslim does something = you get the idea
FBI does something unjust and unconstitutional....
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 07:49 PM (MJNxV)
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:50 PM (meYfp)
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Doctors aren't pushing it and even Big Pharma isn't the number one promoter.
The first place to point a finger is at the schools themselves.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 18, 2018 07:47 PM (0jtPF)
No. The doctors and the courts are more responsible for loosing these lunatics on society than anyone else. And I also blame parents who are happy to put their kids on these major psychiatric drugs like they are just picking up cough medicine over the counter. I think many of such parents are on all sorts of fvcked up psych meds, themselves.
The first place to point a finger is at the schools themselves.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 18, 2018 07:47 PM (0jtPF)
No. The doctors and the courts are more responsible for loosing these lunatics on society than anyone else. And I also blame parents who are happy to put their kids on these major psychiatric drugs like they are just picking up cough medicine over the counter. I think many of such parents are on all sorts of fvcked up psych meds, themselves.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 07:50 PM (8gDQu)
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And Austin Dillon, who has as his logo the Ace of Spades, wins the Daytona 500.
Posted by: scottst at February 18, 2018 07:51 PM (mDrEG)
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Bluebell seems to have picked up some bad habits during her brief stint in maximum security prison....
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 07:48 PM (2sCft)
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I think it's more "skills" than bad habits. After all, most people couldn't turn a toothbrush handle into a deadly weapon.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 07:48 PM (2sCft)
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I think it's more "skills" than bad habits. After all, most people couldn't turn a toothbrush handle into a deadly weapon.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 07:51 PM (9SkN+)
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80 8---......All of them were on thisbshit. This kid Cruz, Adam Lanza, the Aurora theater shooter, almost all of the others. Big Pharma and try AMA is pushing thisbshit down all the kids throats.
Posted by: Oncisor 1183 at February 18, 2018 07:16 PM (yhWwl)
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Doctors aren't pushing it and even Big Pharma isn't the number one promoter.
The first place to point a finger is at the schools themselves.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 18, 2018 07:47 PM (0jtPF)
Again we get to the basic issue of correlation =! causation.
Posted by: Oncisor 1183 at February 18, 2018 07:16 PM (yhWwl)
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Doctors aren't pushing it and even Big Pharma isn't the number one promoter.
The first place to point a finger is at the schools themselves.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 18, 2018 07:47 PM (0jtPF)
Again we get to the basic issue of correlation =! causation.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 07:52 PM (NWiLs)
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I think it's more "skills" than bad habits. After all, most people couldn't turn a toothbrush handle into a deadly weapon.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 07:51 PM (9SkN+)
The Brits can't even turn a toothbrush handle into a toothbrush.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 07:51 PM (9SkN+)
The Brits can't even turn a toothbrush handle into a toothbrush.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 07:52 PM (8gDQu)
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The FBI has been unfairly maligned by the President and his supporters.
What the FBI needs to do is have a Day Without The FBI. That'll show the anti-FBI and anti-intelligence-community a thing or two.
The FBI has been unfairly maligned by the President and his supporters.
What the FBI needs to do is have a Day Without The FBI. That'll show the anti-FBI and anti-intelligence-community a thing or two.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 07:52 PM (MJNxV)
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Lots of malfunctions in the 1911 in the shootin' match yesterday, but mostly stopped when I stopped using some "older" reloads. Yet when I checked those older ones, they probably had a sufficient charge for the standard spring I've had in the 1911 for some time now (before it had a slightly lighter spring, probably 14 pounds). So that's puzzling. No reason to think the extractor is a problem. I used a mix of magazines in matches, not my best ones, so I'll have to go to the range this week with the good Wilson mags and see what happens.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 07:53 PM (QDnY+)
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31 The men's pursuit biathlon today was a photo finish. French dude won. I'm not sure there were any Americans in the race, or if they were too far back to present a challenge.
Posted by: stace at February 18, 2018 07:28 PM (6HFDU)
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Fantastic race!
And I'm glad the Frog won. Apparently he thought he won the gold in Sochi but the photo-finish showed he just missed it. It would have been awful if he had lost by a hair again!
Biathlon is cool. I wish more Americans would get interested in it.
Posted by: stace at February 18, 2018 07:28 PM (6HFDU)
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Fantastic race!
And I'm glad the Frog won. Apparently he thought he won the gold in Sochi but the photo-finish showed he just missed it. It would have been awful if he had lost by a hair again!
Biathlon is cool. I wish more Americans would get interested in it.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 18, 2018 07:53 PM (0jtPF)
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What the FBI needs to do is have a Day Without The FBI. That'll show the anti-FBI and anti-intelligence-community a thing or two.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 07:52 PM (MJNxV)
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Heh!
What the FBI needs to do is have a Day Without The FBI. That'll show the anti-FBI and anti-intelligence-community a thing or two.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 07:52 PM (MJNxV)
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Heh!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 07:53 PM (9SkN+)
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Still waiting for all those good men & women at FBI to stand up...
Still waiting for all those good men & women at FBI to stand up...
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 07:53 PM (MJNxV)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 07:53 PM (NWiLs)
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I looked at the list of school shootings, and it turns out the vast majority are done by shooters aged 14-18. Who can't be subject to background checks. It's funny how the kids from Florida are blaming Trump and adults in general. When it's the kids that are the problem.
http://www.westword.com/news/parkland-to-columbine-school-shootings-list-9993641
http://www.westword.com/news/parkland-to-columbine-school-shootings-list-9993641
Posted by: scottst at February 18, 2018 07:53 PM (mDrEG)
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96 I think it's more "skills" than bad habits. After all, most people couldn't turn a toothbrush handle into a deadly weapon.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 07:51 PM (9SkN+)
Bluebell = Shiv Mistress
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 07:51 PM (9SkN+)
Bluebell = Shiv Mistress
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 07:53 PM (2sCft)
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We protect our children and their schools with signs that say, "Gun Free Zone".
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 18, 2018 07:49 PM (tMFgx)
Great point BDLGS!......
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 18, 2018 07:49 PM (tMFgx)
Great point BDLGS!......
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 18, 2018 07:54 PM (EoRCO)
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A Day Without Deep State
A Day Without Deep State
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 07:54 PM (MJNxV)
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81 Weasel!
Took a lot of your comments to heart last week.
Worked up that load with IMR 4350 pushing 180 g. Hornady Interlokt soft point.
The savage I'm shooting hates 150 g., likes 168 and loves 180. I'll have to look to see if there's anything heavier.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:47 PM (HQfxm)
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OK! Just be careful crossing H4350 and IMR4350. I think they're close on the burn rate chart but aren't identical. I use the Hogdon H4350 because it's much less sensitive to temperature variation. The IMR4895 is an old military powder (IMR = Improved Militery Rifle) and is much more temperature sensitive. They may have improved the chemistry over the years, but I seem to recall the WWII troops in Europe and the South Pacific had different loads (or something like that).
Took a lot of your comments to heart last week.
Worked up that load with IMR 4350 pushing 180 g. Hornady Interlokt soft point.
The savage I'm shooting hates 150 g., likes 168 and loves 180. I'll have to look to see if there's anything heavier.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:47 PM (HQfxm)
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OK! Just be careful crossing H4350 and IMR4350. I think they're close on the burn rate chart but aren't identical. I use the Hogdon H4350 because it's much less sensitive to temperature variation. The IMR4895 is an old military powder (IMR = Improved Militery Rifle) and is much more temperature sensitive. They may have improved the chemistry over the years, but I seem to recall the WWII troops in Europe and the South Pacific had different loads (or something like that).
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 07:54 PM (Sfs6o)
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FBI does something unjust and unconstitutional
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Yep. Like gun owners, the FBI, cops, blacks, and Muslims could probably stand to have some cops, FBI, blacks, and Muslims calling them out to stop their BS.
Otherwise people will begin to assume they're all the same.
FBI does something unjust and unconstitutional
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Yep. Like gun owners, the FBI, cops, blacks, and Muslims could probably stand to have some cops, FBI, blacks, and Muslims calling them out to stop their BS.
Otherwise people will begin to assume they're all the same.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 18, 2018 07:55 PM (ks6bw)
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We protect our children and their schools with signs that say, "Gun Free Zone".
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 18, 2018 07:49 PM (tMFgx)
Might as well make 'em Children Free Zones ... then you'll make some progress.
Nobody is breaking into these schools to kill kids. Seems like the little cherubs have this shit all under control.
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 18, 2018 07:49 PM (tMFgx)
Might as well make 'em Children Free Zones ... then you'll make some progress.
Nobody is breaking into these schools to kill kids. Seems like the little cherubs have this shit all under control.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 18, 2018 07:55 PM (fiGNd)
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Weft, good comments. What gets to me is that the left wins by just waiting us out. They've got the schools and a lot of young disciples.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:55 PM (HQfxm)
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Insom, yeah, I'm worried about being embarrelled for posting that link. Was it too long?
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 07:55 PM (eMKNe)
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Hey Sooth
Thanks for the link to the Good the Bad and the Ugly theme in the book thread this morning. It was awesome! That movie is my 13 year old's favorite, and he plays violin, so it was doubly great.
Thanks for the link to the Good the Bad and the Ugly theme in the book thread this morning. It was awesome! That movie is my 13 year old's favorite, and he plays violin, so it was doubly great.
Posted by: squeakywheel at February 18, 2018 07:56 PM (mNEtf)
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Not exactly a firearm but if anybody is interested in submarines . . . .
https://youtu.be/BSHu0sJFrWQ
https://youtu.be/BSHu0sJFrWQ
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 18, 2018 07:56 PM (+y/Ru)
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"Makes sense" sort of revolves around your monthly/annual round count.
I disagree, one of the best things about reloading is that you can make loads that don't exist retail.
I disagree, one of the best things about reloading is that you can make loads that don't exist retail.
Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson's rapey banana at February 18, 2018 07:56 PM (1L9V9)
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We will always have evil among us. It has been thus since Cain slew Abel. You can't legislate or medicate away the depravity of the human heart.
Posted by: Insomniac at
Agreed, but in some cases the meds make it worse.
Kids are being medicated for being kids.
Posted by: Insomniac at
Agreed, but in some cases the meds make it worse.
Kids are being medicated for being kids.
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:56 PM (meYfp)
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"When seconds count, your local law enforcement is minutes away."
"When seconds count, the FBI is busy hounding Donald Trump and doesn't have any time for your shit."
"When seconds count, the FBI is busy hounding Donald Trump and doesn't have any time for your shit."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 07:56 PM (9SkN+)
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113 Insom, yeah, I'm worried about being embarrelled for posting that link. Was it too long?
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 07:55 PM (eMKNe)
Afraid so, old chum.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 07:55 PM (eMKNe)
Afraid so, old chum.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 07:57 PM (NWiLs)
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I said it earlier, but I'm guessing the very specific "falling from ladder" kills more people every year than the total killed in mass shootings since the 80s.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 18, 2018 07:57 PM (ks6bw)
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Top 150 and I read the content. Yes, I am that good.
Posted by: ALH at February 18, 2018 07:57 PM (/6BId)
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Margarita I've been interested in biathlon for years but have been geographically challenged. Have always had to travel for x-c skiing. You simply have to live in eastern Canada, or northern New England, or the Rockies or Sierras, to do enough x-c in general. I have heard talk of starting an "historic biathlon" but it wouldn't be watchable and dramatic, as the sporterized version is. But it would be hard, and fun. (regular mountaineering skis, plus showshoes, large caliber rifles, profile targets at realistic ranges, from cover)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 07:58 PM (QDnY+)
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Taking a new shooter to the range this week for the first time. She has more money than sense and right before the election bought 3-4 handguns and an AR and hasnt had any experience with any of them as of yet.
The fevered talk of the left drove her to buy them and the continued melt down by leftists now after the FL shooting convinced her to get some range time. I've been working with her with safe handling, cleaning, etc. ahead of the range.
My uninformed observation is there are many more folks like this. They were content to stay on the sidelines but now they are becoming concerned. Dunno - maybe I'm all wet on this.
The fevered talk of the left drove her to buy them and the continued melt down by leftists now after the FL shooting convinced her to get some range time. I've been working with her with safe handling, cleaning, etc. ahead of the range.
My uninformed observation is there are many more folks like this. They were content to stay on the sidelines but now they are becoming concerned. Dunno - maybe I'm all wet on this.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 18, 2018 07:58 PM (tr2D7)
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119. Got this vision of you as Kevin Klein saying that to Cleese before he made him climb into a barrel full of waste oil.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 07:58 PM (fA1SL)
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I started reloading well over 30 years ago and regard it as an enjoyable part of the shooting hobby. I taught myself the basics by reading manuals and articles since I didn't know anyone experienced and the internet, such as it was, didn't offer such resources. Of course, that was a normal way to learn back then.
There are a lot of benefits to reloading.
- The satisfaction of a hands-on activity.
- Learning to get the best accuracy out of your guns by developing ammo each one especially 'likes'.
- It can be a way to save money. Even with the cost of tools, references and components, I can reload for less than the cost of commercial ammo. If, like me, you are willing to scrounge and clean range brass, look for sales on tools and components, buy in bulk when possible, mold cast bullets, etc., costs go down even more.
- There is a sense of security, and satisfaction, knowing you aren't dependent on commercial supplies of ammo and possible regulations and restrictions on it.
Just some quick thoughts. When 22lr was unavailable or very expensive, I could reload a number of centerfire cartridges at less cost.
There are a lot of benefits to reloading.
- The satisfaction of a hands-on activity.
- Learning to get the best accuracy out of your guns by developing ammo each one especially 'likes'.
- It can be a way to save money. Even with the cost of tools, references and components, I can reload for less than the cost of commercial ammo. If, like me, you are willing to scrounge and clean range brass, look for sales on tools and components, buy in bulk when possible, mold cast bullets, etc., costs go down even more.
- There is a sense of security, and satisfaction, knowing you aren't dependent on commercial supplies of ammo and possible regulations and restrictions on it.
Just some quick thoughts. When 22lr was unavailable or very expensive, I could reload a number of centerfire cartridges at less cost.
Posted by: JTB at February 18, 2018 07:58 PM (V+03K)
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123 Taking a new shooter to the range this week for the first time. She has more money than sense and right before the election bought 3-4 handguns and an AR and hasnt had any experience with any of them as of yet.
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She sounds like marriage material.
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She sounds like marriage material.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 07:59 PM (9SkN+)
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That movie is my 13 year old's favorite, and he plays violin, so it was doubly great.
Oh good!
That Danish Orchestra "covers" lots of movie themes, including Blade Runner. But they also did a great Fistful Of Dollars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4niv522mbtM
That movie is my 13 year old's favorite, and he plays violin, so it was doubly great.
Oh good!
That Danish Orchestra "covers" lots of movie themes, including Blade Runner. But they also did a great Fistful Of Dollars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4niv522mbtM
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 07:59 PM (MJNxV)
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When seconds count, go after the Rooskie pee-pee hookers.
Posted by: The EffBeeEye at February 18, 2018 07:59 PM (Tyii7)
129
Mmmm..gun thread.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 18, 2018 08:00 PM (0dBoU)
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Thanks to the Horde! You all convinced me to get a carry permit. It came in the mail this last week.
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 18, 2018 08:00 PM (RZWC0)
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Margin cleanup on aisle 89?
Posted by: Bob the Bilderbergs phone at February 18, 2018 08:00 PM (z5XqI)
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112 Weft, good comments. What gets to me is that the left wins by just waiting us out. They've got the schools and a lot of young disciples.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:55 PM (HQfxm
+++
That's why we need to keep preaching the joys of gun ownership to the young ones. My kids and most of their friends are at least interested in taking a trip to the range. Get them out there and we'll make some converts and hold back the screeching SJW's.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 07:55 PM (HQfxm
+++
That's why we need to keep preaching the joys of gun ownership to the young ones. My kids and most of their friends are at least interested in taking a trip to the range. Get them out there and we'll make some converts and hold back the screeching SJW's.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 08:01 PM (2sCft)
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Agreed, but in some cases the meds make it worse.
Kids are being medicated for being kids.
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:56 PM (meYfp)
This is true. The system is way too quick on the trigger to medicate away normal rambunctiousness or mild behavioral issues. There are kids who honest-to-God do have ADHD or other problems and legitimately need treatment,
including medication, but it's being cast way too wide, like the autism spectrum.
Kids are being medicated for being kids.
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 07:56 PM (meYfp)
This is true. The system is way too quick on the trigger to medicate away normal rambunctiousness or mild behavioral issues. There are kids who honest-to-God do have ADHD or other problems and legitimately need treatment,
including medication, but it's being cast way too wide, like the autism spectrum.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:01 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:01 PM (MJNxV)
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Hell of a piece of equipment.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 18, 2018 07:41 PM (tr2D7)
Drove one of those for a couple of summers when I was in school. Many a week it never went below 120 degrees inside the control room for the entire 8 hour shift. Never knew how hot it really was because the thermometer maxed out at 120. Totally destroyed my hearing because for 8 hours you were maybe 20 feet away from what amounted to a jet engine (1970's - nobody had hearing protection). But you are right, a hell of a piece of equipment.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 18, 2018 07:41 PM (tr2D7)
Drove one of those for a couple of summers when I was in school. Many a week it never went below 120 degrees inside the control room for the entire 8 hour shift. Never knew how hot it really was because the thermometer maxed out at 120. Totally destroyed my hearing because for 8 hours you were maybe 20 feet away from what amounted to a jet engine (1970's - nobody had hearing protection). But you are right, a hell of a piece of equipment.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 18, 2018 08:01 PM (9YMRP)
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I paused in my .308/7.62x51 build because I want to save up for a LaRue upper. In the meantime I recently ran into a complete 5.56 lower with 6 position stock etc for just over $100. I'm gonna buy it but I wonder if anyone can tell me if it is worth it to pay $20 extra for "anti-rotation trigger pins"?
Sounds sketchy.
Sounds sketchy.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at February 18, 2018 08:01 PM (h4Umz)
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Neil deGrasse you don't disagree, you didn't read my comment fully. I ID'd customization as a benefit of reloading. There's an infinite variety of situations out there, so there's an infinite number of permutations of reasons to reload. I was just identifying the replacement of large volumes of factory ammo with the self-rolled alternative as the main reason people take up the hobby.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:02 PM (QDnY+)
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Margin cleanup on aisle 89?
Posted by: Bob the Bilderbergs phone at February 18, 2018 08:00 PM (z5XqI)
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Give him s break. Blowing the margins is the only pleasure he gets.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderbergs phone at February 18, 2018 08:00 PM (z5XqI)
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Give him s break. Blowing the margins is the only pleasure he gets.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 08:02 PM (9SkN+)
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Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 07:25 PM (Sfs6o)
I sure wish I lived closer so I could lend a hand.
Also because it would mean I don't live in Illinois.
Oh, well. FML.
I sure wish I lived closer so I could lend a hand.
Also because it would mean I don't live in Illinois.
Oh, well. FML.
Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at February 18, 2018 08:02 PM (C1NyB)
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123 Taking a new shooter to the range this week for the first time. She has more money than sense and right before the election bought 3-4 handguns and an AR and hasnt had any experience with any of them as of yet.
The fevered talk of the left drove her to buy them and the continued melt down by leftists now after the FL shooting convinced her to get some range time. I've been working with her with safe handling, cleaning, etc. ahead of the range.
My uninformed observation is there are many more folks like this. They were content to stay on the sidelines but now they are becoming concerned. Dunno - maybe I'm all wet on this.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 18, 2018 07:58 PM (tr2D7)
Is she hot and/or single?
The fevered talk of the left drove her to buy them and the continued melt down by leftists now after the FL shooting convinced her to get some range time. I've been working with her with safe handling, cleaning, etc. ahead of the range.
My uninformed observation is there are many more folks like this. They were content to stay on the sidelines but now they are becoming concerned. Dunno - maybe I'm all wet on this.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 18, 2018 07:58 PM (tr2D7)
Is she hot and/or single?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:03 PM (NWiLs)
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btw, did anyone else find that Danish conductor very attractive...in a very sexual way, I mean?
btw, did anyone else find that Danish conductor very attractive...in a very sexual way, I mean?
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:03 PM (MJNxV)
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My uninformed observation is there are many more folks like this. They were content to stay on the sidelines but now they are becoming concerned. Dunno - maybe I'm all wet on this.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 18, 2018 07:58 PM (tr2D7)
No, your spot on. I was at the range a while ago and a fella showed up with his new AR still in the box. I showed him how to break it down, do safety checks, how to load and unload, immediate and remedial action and how the darn thing works.
Be safe out there.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 18, 2018 07:58 PM (tr2D7)
No, your spot on. I was at the range a while ago and a fella showed up with his new AR still in the box. I showed him how to break it down, do safety checks, how to load and unload, immediate and remedial action and how the darn thing works.
Be safe out there.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 18, 2018 08:03 PM (EoRCO)
143
My husband was at lunch with an employee on Friday. The guy was on his phone typing away furiously.
My husband: "What's going on?"
His employee: " I'm trolling liberals. I just told one I'd give up my guns when his side quits murdering babies in the womb."
BOOM.
My husband: "What's going on?"
His employee: " I'm trolling liberals. I just told one I'd give up my guns when his side quits murdering babies in the womb."
BOOM.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (ptqGC)
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"We protect our children and their schools with signs that say, "Gun Free Zone"."
And that is intentional.
If it takes the deaths of hundreds more children to achieve "common sense restrictions on guns" the left will count it cheap at the price.
And that is intentional.
If it takes the deaths of hundreds more children to achieve "common sense restrictions on guns" the left will count it cheap at the price.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (H0hPC)
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I have Chinese clients. The first thing they do when they get an AR in their hands is they point it at their buddy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (9SkN+)
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You all convinced me to get a carry permit. It came in the mail this last week.
Welcome to the official Second Amendment Exercisers Club!
You all convinced me to get a carry permit. It came in the mail this last week.
Welcome to the official Second Amendment Exercisers Club!
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (MJNxV)
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I'm constantly amazed at how violently the left wishes to deal with whomever disagrees with their view of utopia. For example:
The Rude Pundit
@rudepundit
1. Outlaw the assault rifles.
2. Have buybacks.
3. If that doesn't work, confiscate them.
4. If that doesn't work, pry them from cold, dead hands if you need to.
(I don't fucking care if you're a good, lawful gun owner. I don't fucking care.)
Yeah, that's all peace, love, and understanding.
The Rude Pundit
@rudepundit
1. Outlaw the assault rifles.
2. Have buybacks.
3. If that doesn't work, confiscate them.
4. If that doesn't work, pry them from cold, dead hands if you need to.
(I don't fucking care if you're a good, lawful gun owner. I don't fucking care.)
Yeah, that's all peace, love, and understanding.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (+y/Ru)
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130 Thanks to the Horde! You all convinced me to get a carry permit. It came in the mail this last week.
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 18, 2018 08:00 PM (RZWC0)
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Good on ya, t-dubya-d!! I don't carry every single day, but nice to know you can when you want to. Mrs. OReno and I got ours after Obummer's re-election in 2012.
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 18, 2018 08:00 PM (RZWC0)
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Good on ya, t-dubya-d!! I don't carry every single day, but nice to know you can when you want to. Mrs. OReno and I got ours after Obummer's re-election in 2012.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (2sCft)
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This is true. The system is way too quick on the trigger to medicate away normal rambunctiousness or mild behavioral issues. There are kids who honest-to-God do have ADHD or other problems and legitimately need treatment,
including medication, but it's being cast way too wide, like the autism spectrum.
Posted by: Insomniac
Yep.
I knew I liked you for more than your rock recipes.
including medication, but it's being cast way too wide, like the autism spectrum.
Posted by: Insomniac
Yep.
I knew I liked you for more than your rock recipes.
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (meYfp)
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Great story. I was talking to this guy and I suddenly interrupted him and said "qdpsteve, but first you will blow me."
Posted by: The Margins at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (nO+fH)
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:05 PM (MJNxV)
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149. Forget it. I got dibs on that loose change.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 08:05 PM (fA1SL)
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136 I paused in my .308/7.62x51 build because I want to save up for a LaRue upper. In the meantime I recently ran into a complete 5.56 lower with 6 position stock etc for just over $100. I'm gonna buy it but I wonder if anyone can tell me if it is worth it to pay $20 extra for "anti-rotation trigger pins"?
Sounds sketchy.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at February 18, 2018 08:01 PM (h4Umz)
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I'm not a big AR guy, but I have built a couple for funsies and don't think I've ever heard of anti-rotation trigger pins. What are they supposed to do? Not rotate?
Sounds sketchy.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at February 18, 2018 08:01 PM (h4Umz)
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I'm not a big AR guy, but I have built a couple for funsies and don't think I've ever heard of anti-rotation trigger pins. What are they supposed to do? Not rotate?
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 08:05 PM (Sfs6o)
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143 My husband was at lunch with an employee on Friday. The guy was on his phone typing away furiously.
My husband: "What's going on?"
His employee: " I'm trolling liberals. I just told one I'd give up my guns when his side quits murdering babies in the womb."
BOOM.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (ptqGC)
Daaaaamn! I like this guy already!
My husband: "What's going on?"
His employee: " I'm trolling liberals. I just told one I'd give up my guns when his side quits murdering babies in the womb."
BOOM.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (ptqGC)
Daaaaamn! I like this guy already!
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:06 PM (NWiLs)
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I have Chinese clients. The first thing they do when they get an AR in their hands is they point it at their buddy.
What could possibly go wrong?
What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 18, 2018 08:06 PM (Tyii7)
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What are Danes, anyway?
Are Danes the real Vikings?
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:05 PM (MJNxV)
I think Danes are swishy Swedes. Or vice-versa. Hard to tell. Freaking icebacks.
Are Danes the real Vikings?
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:05 PM (MJNxV)
I think Danes are swishy Swedes. Or vice-versa. Hard to tell. Freaking icebacks.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2018 08:06 PM (ptqGC)
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Fantastic race!
And I'm glad the Frog won. Apparently he thought he won the gold in Sochi but the photo-finish showed he just missed it. It would have been awful if he had lost by a hair again!
Biathlon is cool. I wish more Americans would get interested in it.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 18, 2018 07:53 PM (0jtPF)
Yeah, I was glad he won too.
I'm trying to remember one of the human interest stories they showed last week, and if I remember right (a big if) one of our best biathletes, who's retired from the sport, was helping set up a new biathlon center . Then he was enticed to compete one more time in Peongwhatever. He didn't do very well in the one event I saw him in, but maybe he'll be able to get more American kids trained up on biathlon with this new center.
And I'm glad the Frog won. Apparently he thought he won the gold in Sochi but the photo-finish showed he just missed it. It would have been awful if he had lost by a hair again!
Biathlon is cool. I wish more Americans would get interested in it.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 18, 2018 07:53 PM (0jtPF)
Yeah, I was glad he won too.
I'm trying to remember one of the human interest stories they showed last week, and if I remember right (a big if) one of our best biathletes, who's retired from the sport, was helping set up a new biathlon center . Then he was enticed to compete one more time in Peongwhatever. He didn't do very well in the one event I saw him in, but maybe he'll be able to get more American kids trained up on biathlon with this new center.
Posted by: stace at February 18, 2018 08:06 PM (6HFDU)
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:06 PM (MJNxV)
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If I had only gotten the votes in '95, America would be utopia by now. You dirty yank bastards.
Posted by: Dianne Feinstein at February 18, 2018 08:06 PM (Y6bSe)
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Tonypete you are not wrong about there being people who've done panic buying of guns since 2008, with periodic intensifications after incidents like this. And don't forget the state-level issue - various states endlessly harass gun owners with new bans and restrictions almost annually, which drives people in those states to have their own mini-panic responses.
JTB, not much of a rimfire shooter here, and yes during the last big panic I was easily reloading 9mm for much less than the per/round cost of 22LR (if you could even find any). And I don't cast (but I do scrounge, exercise maximum economy and guile to my cost side - part of the game for me, it's actually part of the fun to reload for so little).
JTB, not much of a rimfire shooter here, and yes during the last big panic I was easily reloading 9mm for much less than the per/round cost of 22LR (if you could even find any). And I don't cast (but I do scrounge, exercise maximum economy and guile to my cost side - part of the game for me, it's actually part of the fun to reload for so little).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:07 PM (QDnY+)
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156. Yep. An iceback by any other name....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 08:07 PM (fA1SL)
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141 btw, did anyone else find that Danish conductor very attractive...in a very sexual way, I mean?
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:03 PM (MJNxV)
* furrows brow *
Huh? What Danish conductor?
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:03 PM (MJNxV)
* furrows brow *
Huh? What Danish conductor?
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 08:07 PM (2sCft)
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My ancestry is Danish. We conquered Iceland and temporarily pitched camp in Greenland. Don't go dissing the Danes, man.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 08:07 PM (9SkN+)
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Yeah, I think the Swedes are the frauds. I dunno. Blockheads.
Yeah, I think the Swedes are the frauds. I dunno. Blockheads.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:07 PM (MJNxV)
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:-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:07 PM (eMKNe)
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18
"He exclaimed that the absence of God in this child's life was to
blame. The community where this child lived never exposed him to the
Lord and where God is denied Satan appears.
He stated the protesters should be angry that God is and has been
removed from children's lives in their community by our so called
government "schools", community leaders and parents."
Exactly. Well stated, and applies well beyond just to our kids. Deny God, and Satan steps in.
"He exclaimed that the absence of God in this child's life was to
blame. The community where this child lived never exposed him to the
Lord and where God is denied Satan appears.
He stated the protesters should be angry that God is and has been
removed from children's lives in their community by our so called
government "schools", community leaders and parents."
Exactly. Well stated, and applies well beyond just to our kids. Deny God, and Satan steps in.
Posted by: BoyNsea at February 18, 2018 08:07 PM (Kh5Q4)
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WOOF
Posted by: The Great Danes at February 18, 2018 08:08 PM (Tyii7)
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Is she hot and/or single?
Posted by: Insomniac
Does she have enormous breasts ?
When she walks, do they go BOOM ditty BOOM ?
Ummmmmm...... asking for a friend.
Posted by: Insomniac
Does she have enormous breasts ?
When she walks, do they go BOOM ditty BOOM ?
Ummmmmm...... asking for a friend.
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 08:08 PM (meYfp)
169
**smokes cigarette**
Posted by: The Margins at February 18, 2018 08:08 PM (nO+fH)
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Danish war strategem #1: slow down your enemy by enticing them to eat way too many large spiraled frosted pastries... ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:08 PM (eMKNe)
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"102
What the FBI needs to do is have a Day Without The FBI. That'll show the anti-FBI and anti-intelligence-community a thing or two.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo"
I dunno, us deplorables can be pretty thick, how about a month ? Or a year, everyone should get it by then.
/sarc
What the FBI needs to do is have a Day Without The FBI. That'll show the anti-FBI and anti-intelligence-community a thing or two.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo"
I dunno, us deplorables can be pretty thick, how about a month ? Or a year, everyone should get it by then.
/sarc
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (H0hPC)
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (MJNxV)
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144 And that is intentional.
If it takes the deaths of hundreds more children to achieve "common sense restrictions on guns" the left will count it cheap at the price.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (H0hPC)
Agreed. Just like Operation Fast and Furious. So what if a few thousand Mexicans and border patrol agents died.
If it takes the deaths of hundreds more children to achieve "common sense restrictions on guns" the left will count it cheap at the price.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (H0hPC)
Agreed. Just like Operation Fast and Furious. So what if a few thousand Mexicans and border patrol agents died.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (2sCft)
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You lied to me, Margins! You said you were Mila Kunis!
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: dad29 at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (7Kti7)
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Well, the Eskimos ran us out of Greenland, but Iceland, baby!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (9SkN+)
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Rhomboid and JTB. I only started reloading about four years ago. I find it gives me a sense of freedom and accomplishment. I enjoy finding loads that maximize a gun's potential. I enjoy being not tied down to factory loads. And I enjoy being a leftist's worst nightmare.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (HQfxm)
178
We were in Copenhagen years ago on a Sunday. Beautiful church, no one going in.
Later that afternoon we were returning from a walk through town, and a bunch of Danish men and women started stripping nekkid right there, in the middle of the city center. First, they put down some astroturf (??). I have no idea what they were protesting or celebrating, but trust me, they were NOT the nekkid Danes you wanted to see.
Later that afternoon we were returning from a walk through town, and a bunch of Danish men and women started stripping nekkid right there, in the middle of the city center. First, they put down some astroturf (??). I have no idea what they were protesting or celebrating, but trust me, they were NOT the nekkid Danes you wanted to see.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2018 08:10 PM (ptqGC)
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147 I'm constantly amazed at how violently the left wishes to deal with whomever disagrees with their view of utopia. For example:
The Rude Pundit
@rudepundit
1. Outlaw the assault rifles.
2. Have buybacks.
3. If that doesn't work, confiscate them.
4. If that doesn't work, pry them from cold, dead hands if you need to.
(I don't fucking care if you're a good, lawful gun owner. I don't fucking care.)
Yeah, that's all peace, love, and understanding.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (+y/Ru)
Shot in the dark, so to speak: This person is against the death penalty for convicted murderers, yes? And pro death penalty for law abiding citizens who disagree. Rude? Try Pol Pot Pundit.
The Rude Pundit
@rudepundit
1. Outlaw the assault rifles.
2. Have buybacks.
3. If that doesn't work, confiscate them.
4. If that doesn't work, pry them from cold, dead hands if you need to.
(I don't fucking care if you're a good, lawful gun owner. I don't fucking care.)
Yeah, that's all peace, love, and understanding.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (+y/Ru)
Shot in the dark, so to speak: This person is against the death penalty for convicted murderers, yes? And pro death penalty for law abiding citizens who disagree. Rude? Try Pol Pot Pundit.
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 18, 2018 08:10 PM (tMFgx)
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This is true. The system is way too quick on the trigger to medicate away normal rambunctiousness or mild behavioral issues. There are kids who honest-to-God do have ADHD or other problems and legitimately need treatment,
including medication, but it's being cast way too wide, like the autism spectrum.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:01 PM (NWiLs)
It's not just that. It's that they are prescribing some really fvcked up medicines (that they really don't know how they work or what they really do) that can have all sorts of weird affects on the brain - especially on one that's pretty screwed up to begin with.
The simplest - and least dangerous (!) - example is something like Ambien. That is some truly fvcked up stuff. Yeah ... I hear a lot of people saying that they never experienced the really messed up side-effects of it, but I have also known a number of people who DID experience those effects. They (and those around them) were just lucky that nothing really bad happened. But any drug that has people blacked out doing all sorts of stuff (like eating or driving) is something that a reasonable person would probably not have a large percentage of the population feasting on. It is a serious drug that alters the consciousness to such an extent that it should be considered a serious hazard to society, itself.
And when they have anti-psychotics that have the same sorts of weird, fvcked up side effects (and the sort of fvcked up people who seem to need anti-psychotics, to begin with) it's just a recipe for certain disaster.
But, as with all the other shootings of this sort, there won't be even 3 seconds of public discourse addressing the drugs this nutjob was on, his psychiatrist's liability in putting him on them and loosing him on society or anything else of the sort. Sort of like when AIDs first hit the scene and, even though it was alleged to be the worst thing since the Black Death ... you couldn't find a single research paper investigating anal sex and its connection to contracting the virus. NOT A SINGLE PAPER. But if you didn't want to put every single dollar available into AIDs research you were a total gay hater! Funny.
including medication, but it's being cast way too wide, like the autism spectrum.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:01 PM (NWiLs)
It's not just that. It's that they are prescribing some really fvcked up medicines (that they really don't know how they work or what they really do) that can have all sorts of weird affects on the brain - especially on one that's pretty screwed up to begin with.
The simplest - and least dangerous (!) - example is something like Ambien. That is some truly fvcked up stuff. Yeah ... I hear a lot of people saying that they never experienced the really messed up side-effects of it, but I have also known a number of people who DID experience those effects. They (and those around them) were just lucky that nothing really bad happened. But any drug that has people blacked out doing all sorts of stuff (like eating or driving) is something that a reasonable person would probably not have a large percentage of the population feasting on. It is a serious drug that alters the consciousness to such an extent that it should be considered a serious hazard to society, itself.
And when they have anti-psychotics that have the same sorts of weird, fvcked up side effects (and the sort of fvcked up people who seem to need anti-psychotics, to begin with) it's just a recipe for certain disaster.
But, as with all the other shootings of this sort, there won't be even 3 seconds of public discourse addressing the drugs this nutjob was on, his psychiatrist's liability in putting him on them and loosing him on society or anything else of the sort. Sort of like when AIDs first hit the scene and, even though it was alleged to be the worst thing since the Black Death ... you couldn't find a single research paper investigating anal sex and its connection to contracting the virus. NOT A SINGLE PAPER. But if you didn't want to put every single dollar available into AIDs research you were a total gay hater! Funny.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 08:10 PM (8gDQu)
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I have Chinese clients. The first thing they do when they get an AR in their hands is they point it at their buddy.
They do the same thing with their cars.
They do the same thing with their cars.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 08:11 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 08:11 PM (9SkN+)
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https://youtu.be/uFoM8S3JwZU
Posted by: steevy at February 18, 2018 08:12 PM (LiyEm)
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Weasel, I always wondered about IMR and H. Huh. Learn something new everyday. That's one reason I come here.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 08:12 PM (HQfxm)
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She sounds like marriage material.
Posted by: Cicero
Is she hot and/or single?
Posted by: Insomniac
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Cicero, oh believe me, she is.
Insomniac, yes and no.
Mrs TP is pretty cool but not that cool. Heavy sigh.
Bitched about Mrs TPs snoring yesterday - she told me no one else complains.
Hey, wait a minute. . .
Posted by: Cicero
Is she hot and/or single?
Posted by: Insomniac
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Cicero, oh believe me, she is.
Insomniac, yes and no.
Mrs TP is pretty cool but not that cool. Heavy sigh.
Bitched about Mrs TPs snoring yesterday - she told me no one else complains.
Hey, wait a minute. . .
Posted by: Tonypete at February 18, 2018 08:12 PM (tr2D7)
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I can't believe that just now as we are learning more every day about just how corrupt and incompetent the FBI is that we are considering more gun control laws.
By the way, it's not FBI corruption + FBI incompetence = we're fvcked.
It's FBI corruption X FBI incompetence = we're fvcked.
By the way, it's not FBI corruption + FBI incompetence = we're fvcked.
It's FBI corruption X FBI incompetence = we're fvcked.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 18, 2018 08:12 PM (+y/Ru)
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Meanwhile, the muslim horde is enjoying having its way with lovely blonde, blue-eyed Scandi girls. Because refusing to be raped is racist or something.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2018 08:12 PM (ptqGC)
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177 Rhomboid and JTB. I only started reloading about four years ago. I find it gives me a sense of freedom and accomplishment. I enjoy finding loads that maximize a gun's potential. I enjoy being not tied down to factory loads. And I enjoy being a leftist's worst nightmare.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (HQfxm)
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It's fun, and if you really go completely nutty with it you can make some verrrrrrry consistent and accurate custom ammo.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (HQfxm)
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It's fun, and if you really go completely nutty with it you can make some verrrrrrry consistent and accurate custom ammo.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 08:12 PM (Sfs6o)
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Eskimos? Sheesh. That was embarrassing.
Fucking Eskimos.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 08:11 PM (9SkN+)
Esquimaux.
Fucking Eskimos.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 08:11 PM (9SkN+)
Esquimaux.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (y87Qq)
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I'm not a big AR guy, but I have built a couple for funsies and don't think I've ever heard of anti-rotation trigger pins. What are they supposed to do? Not rotate?
Posted by: Weasel
Yeah, I'm guessing they pin the trigger too. I'm not a big AR guy either and I want to buy this one because, well I don't know why. Maybe the pins that hold the trigger assembly in have a tendency to spin and work their way loose?
Sounds like a job for Locktite™ not $20 sooper pins.
Posted by: Weasel
Yeah, I'm guessing they pin the trigger too. I'm not a big AR guy either and I want to buy this one because, well I don't know why. Maybe the pins that hold the trigger assembly in have a tendency to spin and work their way loose?
Sounds like a job for Locktite™ not $20 sooper pins.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (h4Umz)
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Don't members of the military take an oath to defend the Constitution? Well, the Second Amendment is part of the Constitution.
If they were ordered to use force to take away guns, they'd be breaking their oath. I would imagine some in the military would be okay with this, but Im betting a lot of them would not be.
What say you.
If they were ordered to use force to take away guns, they'd be breaking their oath. I would imagine some in the military would be okay with this, but Im betting a lot of them would not be.
What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (c056A)
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Qdpsteve, I could tell this wasn't your first time with a big, long, url.
Posted by: The Margins at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (nO+fH)
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Huh? What Danish conductor?
Um, this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkM71JPHfjk
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (MJNxV)
She's not Danish.
Huh? What Danish conductor?
Um, this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkM71JPHfjk
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (MJNxV)
She's not Danish.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (NWiLs)
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RI there are so many different ways to enjoy reloading. Our Weasel here, for example, is an accomplished precision rifle/distance shooter, where reloading can really contribute. I know lots of competitive shooters who of course tweak their loads to barely make "power factor" for their match ammo.
I just mostly have replaced factory ammo, and developed lighter loads that are easier to shoot, easier on the hardware, and are not available in factory ammo. Revolvers, especially, give you a lot of freedom (no need to worry about working semi-auto action).
I just mostly have replaced factory ammo, and developed lighter loads that are easier to shoot, easier on the hardware, and are not available in factory ammo. Revolvers, especially, give you a lot of freedom (no need to worry about working semi-auto action).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (QDnY+)
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'night all. Imonna go enjoy the rest of the evening with my husband.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2018 08:14 PM (ptqGC)
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Thanks! I'm actually enjoying the responsibility that comes with this right. Makes me feel like, i dunno, a law abiding American!
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 18, 2018 08:14 PM (RZWC0)
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:15 PM (MJNxV)
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172 Huh? What Danish conductor?
Um, this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkM71JPHfjk
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (MJNxV)
Oh, THAT Danish Conductor! Yes, she is very attractive in a sexual way, unlike that guy or gal that's doing the whistling.
Um, this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkM71JPHfjk
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (MJNxV)
Oh, THAT Danish Conductor! Yes, she is very attractive in a sexual way, unlike that guy or gal that's doing the whistling.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 08:16 PM (2sCft)
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Anyone here ever see this movie?
Surprised the studio didn't title it "Bring Me The Head of Richie Cunningham."
https://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-other-grand-theft-auto.html
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 07:22 PM (eMKNe)
I saw it when it came out.
Surprised the studio didn't title it "Bring Me The Head of Richie Cunningham."
https://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2018/02/the-other-grand-theft-auto.html
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 07:22 PM (eMKNe)
I saw it when it came out.
Posted by: Bill R. at February 18, 2018 08:16 PM (IuYIh)
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"We protect our children and their schools with signs that say, "Gun Free Zone"."
And that is intentional.
If it takes the deaths of hundreds more children to achieve "common sense restrictions on guns" the left will count it cheap at the price.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (H0hPC)
Hey now, as the Prophet Obama once said, "You can't make a transformative omelet without breaking a metric shitload of eggs!"
And that is intentional.
If it takes the deaths of hundreds more children to achieve "common sense restrictions on guns" the left will count it cheap at the price.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 18, 2018 08:04 PM (H0hPC)
Hey now, as the Prophet Obama once said, "You can't make a transformative omelet without breaking a metric shitload of eggs!"
Posted by: SJW Hrothgar at February 18, 2018 08:16 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:17 PM (MJNxV)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:17 PM (eMKNe)
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Bill R., whadja think? :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:17 PM (eMKNe)
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She's not Danish.
I'd eat that danish.
What is she, then?
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:15 PM (MJNxV)
That's Sarah Hicks. She's an American, born in Tokyo.
She's not Danish.
I'd eat that danish.
What is she, then?
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:15 PM (MJNxV)
That's Sarah Hicks. She's an American, born in Tokyo.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:18 PM (NWiLs)
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176 Well, the Eskimos ran us out of Greenland, but Iceland, baby!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (9SkN+)
Speaking of Iceland, Bjork is kinda odd looking, but I'd do her in a heartbeat. Kind of a smoldering sexuality thing there for me.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (9SkN+)
Speaking of Iceland, Bjork is kinda odd looking, but I'd do her in a heartbeat. Kind of a smoldering sexuality thing there for me.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 08:18 PM (2sCft)
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Would that Henry .410 also shoot .45 long Colt?
Posted by: clutch at February 18, 2018 08:18 PM (kiSdp)
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84 Weasel, I always wondered about IMR and H. Huh. Learn something new everyday. That's one reason I come here.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 08:12 PM (HQfxm)
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One of the things I'm looking forward to doing at WeaselAcres is experimenting with load development techniques. My match loads are very consistent with an extreme velocity spread of around 7fps on rounds that leave the barrel at around 3000 fps. There,are,different,accuracy 'nodes' with different barrels and calibers and powder and I always thought it would be interesting to map the results.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 08:12 PM (HQfxm)
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One of the things I'm looking forward to doing at WeaselAcres is experimenting with load development techniques. My match loads are very consistent with an extreme velocity spread of around 7fps on rounds that leave the barrel at around 3000 fps. There,are,different,accuracy 'nodes' with different barrels and calibers and powder and I always thought it would be interesting to map the results.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 08:19 PM (Sfs6o)
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On the drugs for kids thing, I remain stunned and disbelieving, as I have been for going on two decades, about the whole thing. No kids, so found out about it from others, and my sister, back in the 90s - literally didn't believe, at first, how quickly/easily/stupidly kids were being drugged by school systems/"doctors" - thought it had to be a myth. Or the % of kids so subjected to Brave New World dsytopian insanity.
Though I'm pessimistic overall based entirely on other factors, just being reminded of this (to me) still stunning thing certainly darkens the picture even further.
Though I'm pessimistic overall based entirely on other factors, just being reminded of this (to me) still stunning thing certainly darkens the picture even further.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:19 PM (QDnY+)
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204 That's Sarah Hicks. She's an American, born in Tokyo.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:18 PM (NWiLs)
No relation to Hope Hicks?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:18 PM (NWiLs)
No relation to Hope Hicks?
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 08:19 PM (2sCft)
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196 Thanks! I'm actually enjoying the responsibility that comes with this right. Makes me feel like, i dunno, a law abiding American!
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 18, 2018 08:14 PM (RZWC0)
Welcome to the world of concealed carry. Feels good doesn't it?
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 18, 2018 08:14 PM (RZWC0)
Welcome to the world of concealed carry. Feels good doesn't it?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:19 PM (NWiLs)
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Bjork's a good lookin' woman, or at least she used to be.
Have read her music is kind of Yoko-ey, though.
Have read her music is kind of Yoko-ey, though.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:19 PM (eMKNe)
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Ich bin ein Danish!
Posted by: JFK, Pastry at February 18, 2018 08:19 PM (8gDQu)
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She looks like a Danish Eskimo.
She looks like a Danish Eskimo.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:19 PM (MJNxV)
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They don't want gun control, they want the removal of all guns from all citizens. When they try to do this, the warm civil war will go hot, in my opinion.
Posted by: Dave Willmore at February 18, 2018 08:19 PM (D7R4y)
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You know what a conductor is? Someone who directs just as many musicians as he can shake a stick at.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 18, 2018 08:20 PM (+y/Ru)
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Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (c056A)
\tin-foil-hat
As we saw with Ruby Ridge, and even to an extent, Waco, the rank and file cops and NG will be told that "those people" have violated the law and we Just Want to Bring Them In but they don't want to cooperate. And they Want to Kill Law Enforcement so be careful cause YOU HAVE TO GO HOME AT THE END OF THIS.
Which will result in you-know-what.
/tin-foil-hat
\tin-foil-hat
As we saw with Ruby Ridge, and even to an extent, Waco, the rank and file cops and NG will be told that "those people" have violated the law and we Just Want to Bring Them In but they don't want to cooperate. And they Want to Kill Law Enforcement so be careful cause YOU HAVE TO GO HOME AT THE END OF THIS.
Which will result in you-know-what.
/tin-foil-hat
Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at February 18, 2018 08:20 PM (C1NyB)
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Steve-o-Reno @ 148- Carry every day?
I carry every day. And half of those days, I get PAID for it. Is this a great country or what?
I carry every day. And half of those days, I get PAID for it. Is this a great country or what?
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2018 08:20 PM (zLDYs)
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Throw away dads/fathers is a very real thing. It's celebrated and enabled from the local government level to DC along with the culture. Also not allowing men (throw away men and boys) in general to be a part the lives of children while substituting the state. Consumerism crept into humans a long time ago, it's enabled and celebrated to consume men and boys. Vampires.
Day of the Cross and Sunlight can't come soon enough.
*types*
*deletes*
Day of the Cross and Sunlight can't come soon enough.
*types*
*deletes*
Posted by: Monk at February 18, 2018 08:20 PM (g4lFK)
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Speaking of Iceland, Bjork is kinda odd looking, but I'd do her in a heartbeat. Kind of a smoldering sexuality thing there for me.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 08:18 PM (2sCft)
And you can carry her around in your pocket.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 18, 2018 08:18 PM (2sCft)
And you can carry her around in your pocket.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 08:21 PM (8gDQu)
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I did it all according the moron handbook. Bought the guns, the gear, the ammo, and then the canoe.........whoops.
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 18, 2018 08:21 PM (RZWC0)
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211 Bjork's a good lookin' woman, or at least she used to be.
Have read her music is kind of Yoko-ey, though.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:19 PM (eMKNe)
Uh, no. She can actually sing.
Have read her music is kind of Yoko-ey, though.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:19 PM (eMKNe)
Uh, no. She can actually sing.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:21 PM (NWiLs)
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Don't members of the military take an oath to defend the Constitution? Well, the Second Amendment is part of the Constitution.
No, it's one of those icky amendment things that mistakenly got tacked on the constitution by mistake.
Don't members of the military take an oath to defend the Constitution? Well, the Second Amendment is part of the Constitution.
No, it's one of those icky amendment things that mistakenly got tacked on the constitution by mistake.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 08:22 PM (IqV8l)
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Yeah, that's all peace, love, and understanding.
As a Moron noted the other day, I need my guns to protect myself from those guys, or to at least take them with me.
As a Moron noted the other day, I need my guns to protect myself from those guys, or to at least take them with me.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 18, 2018 08:22 PM (yQpMk)
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160 "And I don't cast (but I do scrounge, exercise maximum economy and guile to my cost side - part of the game for me, it's actually part of the fun to reload for so little)."
Rhomboid, Exactly right. I got my first press as a 'second' from Lee. In this case that meant a scratch on the paint. Been using that press for over 30 years. I don't insist on a digital scale for a couple of hundred bucks when a 30 dollar beam scale does as well, maybe better. It helps I'm not in a hurry or trying to load thousands of rounds at a sitting. I even thin out Lee liquid alox bullet lube to get about ten times the number of bullets lubed.
A seperate category, but I take the same approach with my black powder guns.
Rhomboid, Exactly right. I got my first press as a 'second' from Lee. In this case that meant a scratch on the paint. Been using that press for over 30 years. I don't insist on a digital scale for a couple of hundred bucks when a 30 dollar beam scale does as well, maybe better. It helps I'm not in a hurry or trying to load thousands of rounds at a sitting. I even thin out Lee liquid alox bullet lube to get about ten times the number of bullets lubed.
A seperate category, but I take the same approach with my black powder guns.
Posted by: JTB at February 18, 2018 08:22 PM (V+03K)
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Weasel - 7fps variation on 3000fps loads??? Whoa.
To paint a picture of our respective levels of reloading sophistication, I am the pre-historic chimp-like creatures hooting and screaming at the Obelisk - you are the astronauts floating above in the space station where the Pan Am space shuttle is docking ......
To paint a picture of our respective levels of reloading sophistication, I am the pre-historic chimp-like creatures hooting and screaming at the Obelisk - you are the astronauts floating above in the space station where the Pan Am space shuttle is docking ......
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:22 PM (QDnY+)
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Oh kami, qdpsteve is Swan-ing over Bjork.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 18, 2018 08:22 PM (6W470)
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If it takes the deaths of hundreds more children to achieve "common sense restrictions on guns" the left will count it cheap at the price.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365
Your point reminds me of the Las Vegas shooting. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. gun control could have been the point of that awful event.
Radical liberals totally believe our government staged 9/11 so America could go to war. What they accuse us of doing, they do themselves---stage a tragic happening to inspire horror and outrage. Even some die-hard 2nd amendment supporters are willing to ban bump stocks after Las Vegas.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365
Your point reminds me of the Las Vegas shooting. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. gun control could have been the point of that awful event.
Radical liberals totally believe our government staged 9/11 so America could go to war. What they accuse us of doing, they do themselves---stage a tragic happening to inspire horror and outrage. Even some die-hard 2nd amendment supporters are willing to ban bump stocks after Las Vegas.
Posted by: booknlass at February 18, 2018 08:23 PM (bjSMX)
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This gun thread has gone seriously off the tracks. It's the Amtrak of threads.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 08:23 PM (9SkN+)
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I still remember the Sugarcubes.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:24 PM (eMKNe)
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Flash email traffic: Used Polish Police Body Armor IIIa extra large only $149.95
http://bit.ly/2EBG7wh
http://bit.ly/2EBG7wh
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 18, 2018 08:24 PM (yQpMk)
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What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (c056A)
Back in the day, an oath meant something to almost every American; thanks to "progress" it means very little to far too many "americans".
For example, can you think of more than one or two
politicians (at any level, local, state, or federal) that you would believe if they signed a document containing the phrase "We pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor"?
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (c056A)
Back in the day, an oath meant something to almost every American; thanks to "progress" it means very little to far too many "americans".
For example, can you think of more than one or two
politicians (at any level, local, state, or federal) that you would believe if they signed a document containing the phrase "We pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor"?
Posted by: SJW Hrothgar at February 18, 2018 08:24 PM (gwPgz)
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Would that Henry .410 also shoot .45 long Colt?
Well, if the colt said something about Henry's mom.
Well, if the colt said something about Henry's mom.
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 08:24 PM (meYfp)
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Re: Florida shooter. Democrats will be against his execution.
Posted by: PhilDirt at February 18, 2018 08:25 PM (lfpt4)
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This gun thread has gone seriously off the tracks. It's the Amtrak of threads.
Posted by: Cicero
Well, then it's NOBODY's fault !
Wheeeeeeeeeeee!
Posted by: Cicero
Well, then it's NOBODY's fault !
Wheeeeeeeeeeee!
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 08:26 PM (meYfp)
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>>>Re: Florida shooter. Democrats will be against his execution.
He already confessed in a plea deal to avoid the death penalty.
He already confessed in a plea deal to avoid the death penalty.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at February 18, 2018 08:26 PM (h4Umz)
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Flash email traffic: Used Polish Police Body Armor IIIa extra large only $149.95
http://bit.ly/2EBG7wh
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 18, 2018 08:24 PM (yQpMk)
"The Polish Police Body Armor is a high quality ballistic vest made in Poland. These vests are produced to the highest standards in Poland as they are issued to elite Polish police who operate throughout Poland."
Yeah, but where are they from?
http://bit.ly/2EBG7wh
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 18, 2018 08:24 PM (yQpMk)
"The Polish Police Body Armor is a high quality ballistic vest made in Poland. These vests are produced to the highest standards in Poland as they are issued to elite Polish police who operate throughout Poland."
Yeah, but where are they from?
Posted by: hogmartin at February 18, 2018 08:27 PM (y87Qq)
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191 Don't members of the military take an oath to defend the Constitution? Well, the Second Amendment is part of the Constitution.
If they were ordered to use force to take away guns, they'd be breaking their oath. I would imagine some in the military would be okay with this, but Im betting a lot of them would not be.
What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (c056A)
Would you stake your life on it?
If they were ordered to use force to take away guns, they'd be breaking their oath. I would imagine some in the military would be okay with this, but Im betting a lot of them would not be.
What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (c056A)
Would you stake your life on it?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:27 PM (NWiLs)
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JTB, we're brothers when it comes to this stuff. I actually have kept notes on all my major reloading purchases (equipment), just to revel in the niggardliness of it all. Like-new Lee turret press, with half the dies I needed (then) and other gear, for pennies. Used beam scale seemed funky when I first used it (could have been me) - sent it in to RCBS ..... they sent me a brand new one, no charge.
Not a big consumer of "stuff" in life, but I've never, ever seen the kind and level of customer support anywhere else that I've seen in the reloading and to some degree firearm sectors. Seems the default response is "here, here's a new one, no charge" to almost any problem.
Aside from bargains on gear (most of which is built to last 100s of years - definitely "industrial" and not "consumer" era approach), best killings have come on components, purchased locally. Guys moving/getting out of the hobby. Ridiculously low cost basis for some of the stuff I've loaded.
Not a big consumer of "stuff" in life, but I've never, ever seen the kind and level of customer support anywhere else that I've seen in the reloading and to some degree firearm sectors. Seems the default response is "here, here's a new one, no charge" to almost any problem.
Aside from bargains on gear (most of which is built to last 100s of years - definitely "industrial" and not "consumer" era approach), best killings have come on components, purchased locally. Guys moving/getting out of the hobby. Ridiculously low cost basis for some of the stuff I've loaded.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:28 PM (QDnY+)
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Florida shooter. Democrats will be against his execution.
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Just a confused kid. Another victim, really.
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Just a confused kid. Another victim, really.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 18, 2018 08:28 PM (+y/Ru)
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I had a short go around with a friend on FB the other night. She is a school teacher and she posted that meme that tells about the so-called 18 school shootings this year. When I pointed out that it was bullshit (nicely, of course) she posted that she didn't care, as long as it would help stop the next one. I asked her at what point would it make you upset that the press is flat out lying to you and I think my point finally sank in. She removed the post a couple minutes later and PM'd me that she didn't want to be political. I'm not sure if she's mad at me or not but I just couldn't let that go. She is only in her mid 30's and is really quite beautiful. I would like to hit it one day and I hope I didn't mess up my chances.
Posted by: Bill R. at February 18, 2018 08:29 PM (IuYIh)
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>>>Bitched about Mrs TPs snoring yesterday - she told me no one else complains. Hey, wait a minute. . .
lol
she got you good!
lol
she got you good!
Posted by: concrete girl at February 18, 2018 08:29 PM (SJBL7)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 18, 2018 08:29 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 08:30 PM (IqV8l)
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He already confessed in a plea deal to avoid the death penalty.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at February 18, 2018 08:26 PM (h4Umz)
You're not allowed (!) to plead guilty to a death penalty charge.
... because our society is just that advanced
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at February 18, 2018 08:26 PM (h4Umz)
You're not allowed (!) to plead guilty to a death penalty charge.
... because our society is just that advanced
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 08:30 PM (8gDQu)
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1. This kid could have been thwarted by any number of existing laws; violence at school, brandishing weapons, making terroristic threats, public suicide attempts, etc. Authorities at all levels chose not to.
2. Why write new laws when gun criminals get to plead down and get early release?
3. The Second Amendment is not just for hunting, self-defense or even supporting "the security of a free state". It is also to keep government from becoming tyrannical.
If you want Americans to give up their guns, you might start by ceasing to overturn our elections by wiretapping and framing your political opponents.
It doesn't really make people want to disarm.
2. Why write new laws when gun criminals get to plead down and get early release?
3. The Second Amendment is not just for hunting, self-defense or even supporting "the security of a free state". It is also to keep government from becoming tyrannical.
If you want Americans to give up their guns, you might start by ceasing to overturn our elections by wiretapping and framing your political opponents.
It doesn't really make people want to disarm.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at February 18, 2018 08:30 PM (Ndje9)
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225 Weasel - 7fps variation on 3000fps loads??? Whoa.
To paint a picture of our respective levels of reloading sophistication, I am the pre-historic chimp-like creatures hooting and screaming at the Obelisk - you are the astronauts floating above in the space station where the Pan Am space shuttle is docking ......
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:22 PM (QDnY+)
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Ha! It's really all about the single-minded neurotic obsession with absolute consistency. If you know the weight of the bullet and its muzzle velocity then it's just a math problem to compute trajectory. When you rule out ammunition variables it narrows the potential causes of bad shots. When I shoot one of my match rifles and the impact isn't where I want it, I'm pretty sure I did something dumb behind the gun, or mis-read the wind.
To paint a picture of our respective levels of reloading sophistication, I am the pre-historic chimp-like creatures hooting and screaming at the Obelisk - you are the astronauts floating above in the space station where the Pan Am space shuttle is docking ......
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:22 PM (QDnY+)
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Ha! It's really all about the single-minded neurotic obsession with absolute consistency. If you know the weight of the bullet and its muzzle velocity then it's just a math problem to compute trajectory. When you rule out ammunition variables it narrows the potential causes of bad shots. When I shoot one of my match rifles and the impact isn't where I want it, I'm pretty sure I did something dumb behind the gun, or mis-read the wind.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 08:30 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:31 PM (eMKNe)
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A father turned in his daughter for making plans to attack a school. He found a journal and other shit.
http://wjla.com/news/local/father-turns-in- daughter-after-finding-journal-with-plans-of-mass- shooting-at-md-school
http://wjla.com/news/local/father-turns-in- daughter-after-finding-journal-with-plans-of-mass- shooting-at-md-school
Posted by: Monk at February 18, 2018 08:31 PM (g4lFK)
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Oh kami, qdpsteve is Swan-ing over Bjork.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Well, it's better than bjorking a swan.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Well, it's better than bjorking a swan.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 18, 2018 08:32 PM (KXVP7)
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Yeah, Bjork was cute.
I also had a crush on Tracey Thorn for about 10 minutes back in the late 1990s.
I also had a crush on Tracey Thorn for about 10 minutes back in the late 1990s.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:32 PM (eMKNe)
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237 191 Don't members of the military take an oath to defend the Constitution? Well, the Second Amendment is part of the Constitution.
If they were ordered to use force to take away guns, they'd be breaking their oath. I would imagine some in the military would be okay with this, but Im betting a lot of them would not be.
What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (c056A)
Would you stake your life on it?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:27 PM (NWiLs)
During Katrina.. under a REPUBLICAN President (sort of... a Bush)... they confiscated guns from law abiding citizens...
Remember... the entire Training Regimen of the US Military, is designed to get people to follow orders, even if its against their own personal Safety....
(and I say this as Retired US Navy)...
If they were ordered to use force to take away guns, they'd be breaking their oath. I would imagine some in the military would be okay with this, but Im betting a lot of them would not be.
What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (c056A)
Would you stake your life on it?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:27 PM (NWiLs)
During Katrina.. under a REPUBLICAN President (sort of... a Bush)... they confiscated guns from law abiding citizens...
Remember... the entire Training Regimen of the US Military, is designed to get people to follow orders, even if its against their own personal Safety....
(and I say this as Retired US Navy)...
Posted by: Don Quixote at February 18, 2018 08:32 PM (NgKpN)
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If they were ordered to use force to take away guns, they'd be breaking their oath. I would imagine some in the military would be okay with this, but Im betting a lot of them would not be.
What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM
I'm guessing most wouldn't have a problem with it.
If they were ordered to use force to take away guns, they'd be breaking their oath. I would imagine some in the military would be okay with this, but Im betting a lot of them would not be.
What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM
I'm guessing most wouldn't have a problem with it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 08:33 PM (IqV8l)
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Thanks Insomniac. heh. Thanks to you and Palp I called my son a gopnik the other day. His tracksuit was purple tho.
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 18, 2018 08:33 PM (RZWC0)
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She is only in her mid 30's and is really quite beautiful. I would like to hit it one day and I hope I didn't mess up my chances.
Posted by: Bill R.
I think you did Bill.
Better give me her phone # and I'll try to straighten things out.
Posted by: Bill R.
I think you did Bill.
Better give me her phone # and I'll try to straighten things out.
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 08:33 PM (meYfp)
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244 He already confessed in a plea deal to avoid the death penalty.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at February 18, 2018 08:26 PM (h4Umz)
You're not allowed (!) to plead guilty to a death penalty charge.
... because our society is just that advanced
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Well, that's what I heard. The MSM would never lie about something like that.
Then again maybe the deal was he would cooperate completely in return for life without parole if convicted. IDK.
His lawyer said he is really just a broken kid.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at February 18, 2018 08:26 PM (h4Umz)
You're not allowed (!) to plead guilty to a death penalty charge.
... because our society is just that advanced
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Well, that's what I heard. The MSM would never lie about something like that.
Then again maybe the deal was he would cooperate completely in return for life without parole if convicted. IDK.
His lawyer said he is really just a broken kid.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at February 18, 2018 08:33 PM (h4Umz)
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Florida shooter. Democrats will be against his execution.
He already confessed in a plea deal to avoid the death penalty.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at February 18, 2018 08:26 PM (h4Umz)
Interesting.
He already confessed in a plea deal to avoid the death penalty.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at February 18, 2018 08:26 PM (h4Umz)
Interesting.
Posted by: Monk at February 18, 2018 08:33 PM (g4lFK)
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Unfortunately I am starting to feel that we will need another Civil War.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 18, 2018 07:46 PM (Lqy/e)
Yep, one of the UAW workers at my plant agrees that we either have to separate peacefully or CWII. She is a good hard worker but a Dem through and through.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 18, 2018 07:46 PM (Lqy/e)
Yep, one of the UAW workers at my plant agrees that we either have to separate peacefully or CWII. She is a good hard worker but a Dem through and through.
Posted by: clutch at February 18, 2018 08:34 PM (kiSdp)
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A father turned in his daughter for making plans to attack a school. He found a journal and other shit.
Posted by: Monk at February 18, 2018 08:31 PM (g4lFK)
Well that can't have been easy.
The article says she's 18 - I wonder what, if anything, would have been different if she'd been a minor?
Posted by: Monk at February 18, 2018 08:31 PM (g4lFK)
Well that can't have been easy.
The article says she's 18 - I wonder what, if anything, would have been different if she'd been a minor?
Posted by: hogmartin at February 18, 2018 08:34 PM (y87Qq)
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I'm not sure if she's mad at me or not but I just couldn't let that go. She is only in her mid 30's and is really quite beautiful. I would like to hit it one day and I hope I didn't mess up my chances.
Posted by: Bill R. at February 18, 2018 08:29 PM (IuYIh)
You'll have a better chance of getting into her pants if you aren't nice to her. She probably likes the idea of daddy berating her for doing stupid things. That's kind of how that type is.
Posted by: Bill R. at February 18, 2018 08:29 PM (IuYIh)
You'll have a better chance of getting into her pants if you aren't nice to her. She probably likes the idea of daddy berating her for doing stupid things. That's kind of how that type is.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 08:34 PM (8gDQu)
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253. Huh.....a purple tracksuit. Gopnik Romanov?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 08:34 PM (fA1SL)
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Another singer I admit I find a little cute, and who has the (dis)advantage of never growing old enough to become uncute, is Kirsty MacColl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf-MaLXgl3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf-MaLXgl3A
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:35 PM (eMKNe)
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but it's being cast way too wide,
One of mine was causing a bit of trouble in his classroom. Noisy, twitchy, found ways to create small disturbances. Doc and teacher wanted him to get the ADHD meds.
I said no. Try making him read ahead in the SRA reading stuff.
Never had another problem. He was just a bit quicker than the other kids and needed something to keep hisself occupied.
One of mine was causing a bit of trouble in his classroom. Noisy, twitchy, found ways to create small disturbances. Doc and teacher wanted him to get the ADHD meds.
I said no. Try making him read ahead in the SRA reading stuff.
Never had another problem. He was just a bit quicker than the other kids and needed something to keep hisself occupied.
Posted by: dad29 at February 18, 2018 08:35 PM (7Kti7)
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252
If they were ordered to use force to take away guns, they'd be breaking their oath. I would imagine some in the military would be okay with this, but Im betting a lot of them would not be.
What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM
I'm guessing most wouldn't have a problem with it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 08:33 PM (IqV8l)
I spent a career in the US Navy...
The ONLY time I had ANY training about following lawful order... vice unlawful orders... was about 10 minutes in Boot Camp...
The rest of the Years???? Following Orders was reinforced on a daily basis...
If they were ordered to use force to take away guns, they'd be breaking their oath. I would imagine some in the military would be okay with this, but Im betting a lot of them would not be.
What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM
I'm guessing most wouldn't have a problem with it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 08:33 PM (IqV8l)
I spent a career in the US Navy...
The ONLY time I had ANY training about following lawful order... vice unlawful orders... was about 10 minutes in Boot Camp...
The rest of the Years???? Following Orders was reinforced on a daily basis...
Posted by: Don Quixote at February 18, 2018 08:35 PM (NgKpN)
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Huh? What Danish conductor?
Um, this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkM71JPHfjk
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (MJNxV)
Oh. My.
That's a great performance, and there are some pretty singers, but the conductor is downright yummy.
Huh? What Danish conductor?
Um, this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkM71JPHfjk
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:09 PM (MJNxV)
Oh. My.
That's a great performance, and there are some pretty singers, but the conductor is downright yummy.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 08:36 PM (sdi6R)
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1st thing they need to do right off the bat is ban the fucking PVP (player verses player) side of video games. Its breeding an entire generation of psychopaths. I love video games, probably played and won over 500 of them in my time, but this new breed of PVP shit is over the top. The slime balls that run these game companies turned games into a fucking blood sport. I was a die hard Destiny player, and the shit I heard on the headset is just..fucking...insane. All these kids talk about is kill times for each gun, how many damage points for head shots, how they're gonna wreck this player, that player. These scumbag game designers even include kill cams, so you can watch your kills and post videos. The companies are pushing this crap hard too. They make it so the PVP players get better weapons than PVE (player verses enemy) to entice people to play that garbage.
I was in a raid team one night, there was a 12 year old on the team. He asked why I don't do PVP. I said its stupid, has nothing to do with the story and that garbage didn't exist when I started playing games. The kid says "but shooting people is fun".
I rest my fucking case.
I was in a raid team one night, there was a 12 year old on the team. He asked why I don't do PVP. I said its stupid, has nothing to do with the story and that garbage didn't exist when I started playing games. The kid says "but shooting people is fun".
I rest my fucking case.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 18, 2018 08:36 PM (aMlLZ)
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Bill R., whadja think? :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:17 PM (eMKNe)
It's been many years (decades)but from what I remember, it had its moments. It was worth seeing but as I can't remember many details, it obviously wasn't memorable.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:17 PM (eMKNe)
It's been many years (decades)but from what I remember, it had its moments. It was worth seeing but as I can't remember many details, it obviously wasn't memorable.
Posted by: Bill R. at February 18, 2018 08:36 PM (IuYIh)
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clutch, she sounds like Jeff Wells.
He's an asshole but agrees, America needs to separate. Only problem is, Wells love to gloat about what a hellhole he imagines Red America will be.
Bullshit. He'll be eaten alive by the SJWs.
He's an asshole but agrees, America needs to separate. Only problem is, Wells love to gloat about what a hellhole he imagines Red America will be.
Bullshit. He'll be eaten alive by the SJWs.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:37 PM (eMKNe)
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You'll have a better chance of getting into her pants if you aren't nice to her. She probably likes the idea of daddy berating her for doing stupid things. That's kind of how that type is.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Yeah.
Take her to lunch and crap in her soup.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Yeah.
Take her to lunch and crap in her soup.
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 08:38 PM (meYfp)
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There were some kids around Carter Lake IA. shooting at each other while wearing a flak jacket. One of the idjits missed the jacket and shot the other kid in the buttock. Is that a moron idea or a Moron idea?
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 18, 2018 08:39 PM (RZWC0)
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Yeah.
Take her to lunch and crap in her soup.
Posted by: JT
Oh, this is the gun thread .
Yell BANG ! while ya do it.
Take her to lunch and crap in her soup.
Posted by: JT
Oh, this is the gun thread .
Yell BANG ! while ya do it.
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 08:40 PM (meYfp)
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Posted by: qdpsteve at February 18, 2018 08:35 PM (eMKNe)
You'd probably like Lauren Mayberry from Chvrches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haunJARHPm4
Cute as hell, loony as a bat. Pretty voice.
You'd probably like Lauren Mayberry from Chvrches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haunJARHPm4
Cute as hell, loony as a bat. Pretty voice.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 08:40 PM (8gDQu)
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Berserker, did you see the 17 year old that was killed by his friend this weekend in Columbia? By his friend. Shot in the head. On purpose. Over a video game.
Posted by: Quirky bookworm at February 18, 2018 08:40 PM (gppsv)
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1. 1895 action in .410 bore? Not handled or fired the Henry one. FIL has a Rossi one. Lotta fun. You need to work the action with authority.
2. Reloading. Got several manuals and the gear. Ended up getting into bullet casting, too. No mentor. Joined some forums, too. Rifle and pistol. Not shotgun, though.
2. Reloading. Got several manuals and the gear. Ended up getting into bullet casting, too. No mentor. Joined some forums, too. Rifle and pistol. Not shotgun, though.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 18, 2018 08:41 PM (di1hb)
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Interesting note about my Toks, they both have the 5 torch crest which, as I understand it, make them pre-1963 so they should have been available as C&R but they weren't.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 18, 2018 08:41 PM (yQpMk)
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I help coach my son's youth football team I would say about half the kids are on some form of medication. None of these display the violent side effect though--unfortunately (since the sport is football) it's quite the opposite. Zoned out and zombified.
Posted by: Keith at February 18, 2018 08:41 PM (USf3s)
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268. Ya know, there's a reason this smart military blog is renowned for its dating & relationship advice
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 08:41 PM (fA1SL)
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That conductor Sara Hicks kinda reminds me of that pool player, whatshername.
That conductor Sara Hicks kinda reminds me of that pool player, whatshername.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:41 PM (MJNxV)
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@260 Palp. He had just finished playing handball. Should of called him Al Sharpton instead.
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 18, 2018 08:42 PM (RZWC0)
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253 Thanks Insomniac. heh. Thanks to you and Palp I called my son a gopnik the other day. His tracksuit was purple tho.
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 18, 2018 08:33 PM (RZWC0)
*snort*
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 18, 2018 08:33 PM (RZWC0)
*snort*
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 08:42 PM (NWiLs)
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Don't members of the military take an oath to defend the Constitution? Well, the Second Amendment is part of the Constitution.
As a member of numerous military FB groups, I can't honestly say what the younger generation will do. In some ways they're incredibly smart but in others, they are really, really stupid. Are they smart enough to comprehend that the Second Amendment IS part of the constitution? Yes, but many will do what their leadership tells them to do.
As a member of numerous military FB groups, I can't honestly say what the younger generation will do. In some ways they're incredibly smart but in others, they are really, really stupid. Are they smart enough to comprehend that the Second Amendment IS part of the constitution? Yes, but many will do what their leadership tells them to do.
Posted by: Bill R. at February 18, 2018 08:42 PM (IuYIh)
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Berserker, you're absolutely right.
IIRC, it was after a school shooting , Columbine, or KY or TN I heard the observation that the shooter went for the headshot. They said it was connected to video games.
IIRC, it was after a school shooting , Columbine, or KY or TN I heard the observation that the shooter went for the headshot. They said it was connected to video games.
Posted by: booknlass at February 18, 2018 08:42 PM (bjSMX)
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278. It's never too early nor too late to teach the boy how to Slav.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 08:43 PM (fA1SL)
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I have a Lee Challenger press, Lee dies for .45 auto, .223 rem, and .30-06. Still have all my fingers, though I can't seem to make loads for the .45 powerful enough to cycle. I need to stop using the Lee Dipper and start using the scale for that. Or quit using that can of Clays i got when there was nothing to be had! The .223, though, i use the dipper every time with no foul ups. I have yet to make anything for .30, mainly because I got a good deal on cartridges and I rarely shoot it.
Posted by: hurricane567 at February 18, 2018 08:44 PM (HkuTY)
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Some people forget that kids are stupid. Very stupid. And are very bad decision-makers.
Some have no idea what "permanent" means or what "consequences" are.
That's why so many are covered in ugly idiotic tattoo ink.
Some people forget that kids are stupid. Very stupid. And are very bad decision-makers.
Some have no idea what "permanent" means or what "consequences" are.
That's why so many are covered in ugly idiotic tattoo ink.
Posted by: Soothsayer SLX Pro Series II Platinum Turbo at February 18, 2018 08:45 PM (MJNxV)
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Berserker, did you see the 17 year old that was killed by his friend this weekend in Columbia? By his friend. Shot in the head. On purpose. Over a video game.
Posted by: Quirky bookworm at February 18, 2018 08:40 PM (gppsv)
No, but it don't surprise me one damn bit. It would take all night to describe the conversations I hear over PVP when I'm in game chat. These kids can't tell real world from fantasy. There are no revives, and no restarts in the real world.
Posted by: Quirky bookworm at February 18, 2018 08:40 PM (gppsv)
No, but it don't surprise me one damn bit. It would take all night to describe the conversations I hear over PVP when I'm in game chat. These kids can't tell real world from fantasy. There are no revives, and no restarts in the real world.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 18, 2018 08:45 PM (aMlLZ)
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go around with a friend on FB the other night. She is a school teacher and she posted that meme that tells about the so-called 18 school shootings this year. When I pointed out that it was bullshit (nicely, of course) she posted that she didn't care, as long as it would help stop the next one. I asked her at what point would it make you upset that the press is flat out lying to you and I think my point finally sank in. She removed the post a couple minutes later and PM'd me that she didn't want to be political. I'm not sure if she's mad at me or not but I just couldn't let that go. She is only in her mid 30's and is really quite beautiful. I would like to hit it one day and I hope I didn't mess up my chances.
Posted by: Bill R. at February
well, you may as well get to the point. Go out for dinner and when dessert arrives, with a appertif, I might recommend you give an ice wine such as inniskillin a try, lay it out that and ask "so, when are we going to fuck"?
if she says no, close out the bill and go to the bar by your lonesome. be a gentleman, give her uberfare.
Posted by: Bill R. at February
well, you may as well get to the point. Go out for dinner and when dessert arrives, with a appertif, I might recommend you give an ice wine such as inniskillin a try, lay it out that and ask "so, when are we going to fuck"?
if she says no, close out the bill and go to the bar by your lonesome. be a gentleman, give her uberfare.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 18, 2018 08:45 PM (MTjB1)
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If you go to a professional sporting event there are barricades present. There are metal detectors present. There are funnel access points. There are plainclothes and uniformed law enforcement present. It is about time that schools started to acted more like sporting events rather than a soft target. Maybe walk out of school to demand safer schools.
That's a form of surrender. As a free society, a civilized culture, we should not tolerate this form of behavior. Children from the day they are born should be taught that they are free human beings but that they will not tolerate uncivilized behavior.
Anyone who wants his fifteen minutes of fame should receive it on the stretcher as they cart him to the morgue.
You want to act out, try it.
We wanted a polite society what we have is a simpering society.
That's a form of surrender. As a free society, a civilized culture, we should not tolerate this form of behavior. Children from the day they are born should be taught that they are free human beings but that they will not tolerate uncivilized behavior.
Anyone who wants his fifteen minutes of fame should receive it on the stretcher as they cart him to the morgue.
You want to act out, try it.
We wanted a polite society what we have is a simpering society.
Posted by: gNewt at February 18, 2018 08:46 PM (Xrson)
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one of the best parts in the new clint movie (15:17 to Paris) is when an extremely unattractive teacher tries shaming the moms of the heroes into getting them on meds.
the moms tell her off and walk out.
p.s. i shed three tears at the end
the moms tell her off and walk out.
p.s. i shed three tears at the end
Posted by: concrete girl at February 18, 2018 08:46 PM (SJBL7)
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Berserker, you're absolutely right.
IIRC, it was after a school shooting , Columbine, or KY or TN I heard the observation that the shooter went for the headshot. They said it was connected to video games.
Posted by: booknlass at February 18, 2018 08:42 PM (bjSMX)
yeah let me put on my surprised face.
IIRC, it was after a school shooting , Columbine, or KY or TN I heard the observation that the shooter went for the headshot. They said it was connected to video games.
Posted by: booknlass at February 18, 2018 08:42 PM (bjSMX)
yeah let me put on my surprised face.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 18, 2018 08:47 PM (aMlLZ)
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But seeing how many members of the military have families who are conservative and own guns, would they turn on them as well?
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:47 PM (c056A)
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Never say never but they are never going to take our guns unless we repeal the 2nd Amendment.
Lots of noise but support of the 2nd Amendment is strong.
Lots of noise but support of the 2nd Amendment is strong.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2018 08:47 PM (2DOZq)
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Imagine the hate that flowed through Nikolas Cruz. Seriously think about the following question. If you hate something so bad that you are willing to lose your life; will gun control work?
Of course it will. Just ask the dozens of high school geniuses the MFM is glorifying who are screaming for gun control including some freak of nature looking thing with her shaved head.
Of course it will. Just ask the dozens of high school geniuses the MFM is glorifying who are screaming for gun control including some freak of nature looking thing with her shaved head.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 18, 2018 08:47 PM (SiINZ)
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Gun grabbers are trotting out children to advocate policy in DC for banning guns. Fuck I hate these people.
Posted by: Monk at February 18, 2018 08:48 PM (g4lFK)
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hurricane, all the powder's available now. Get yersef to Powder Valley's website (or ammoseek's reloading search, if you think you can beat PV's prices) right now and find a good powder for your 45ACP. There are probably 2 dozen, or more, that work fine for that caliber.
And get yourself a scale (an RCBS 505, don't screw around). Easy to use, will outlast you, probably.
And get yourself a scale (an RCBS 505, don't screw around). Easy to use, will outlast you, probably.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:48 PM (QDnY+)
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I handload. I started in 1971. I bought a book and taught myself. I have a few suggestions. Buy a loading manual, read it and learn the process. Find someone to mentor you - someone competent who thinks about safety. Start with a single stage press. Buy the best equipment you can afford - it is cheaper in the end. Teach yourself how to tune loads to each weapon.
Posted by: Richard at February 18, 2018 08:48 PM (UKrkm)
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And get yourself a scale (an RCBS 505, don't screw around). Easy to use, will outlast you, probably.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:48 PM (QDnY+)
I use a digital jeweler's scale for my reloads.
I'm a pretty slow reloader ... but it keeps my mind at ease.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:48 PM (QDnY+)
I use a digital jeweler's scale for my reloads.
I'm a pretty slow reloader ... but it keeps my mind at ease.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 08:50 PM (8gDQu)
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Funny how the gun grabbers are in full-throated roar now, but have completely forgotten Las Vegas, which had a much higher death toll. I wonder why that is?
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 08:50 PM (sdi6R)
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handload. I started in 1971. I bought a book and taught myself. I have a few suggestions. Buy a loading manual, read it and learn the process. Find someone to mentor you - someone competent who thinks about safety. Start with a single stage press. Buy the best equipment you can afford - it is cheaper in the end. Teach yourself how to tune loads to each weapon.
Posted by: Richard at February
won't having a bunch of specially tuned rounds be a liability if the shtf?
Posted by: Richard at February
won't having a bunch of specially tuned rounds be a liability if the shtf?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 18, 2018 08:50 PM (MTjB1)
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295 I handload. I started in 1971. I bought a book and taught myself. I have a few suggestions. Buy a loading manual, read it and learn the process. Find someone to mentor you - someone competent who thinks about safety. Start with a single stage press. Buy the best equipment you can afford - it is cheaper in the end. Teach yourself how to tune loads to each weapon.
Posted by: Richard at February 18, 2018 08:48 PM (UKrkm)
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Absolutely this!
295 I handload. I started in 1971. I bought a book and taught myself. I have a few suggestions. Buy a loading manual, read it and learn the process. Find someone to mentor you - someone competent who thinks about safety. Start with a single stage press. Buy the best equipment you can afford - it is cheaper in the end. Teach yourself how to tune loads to each weapon.
Posted by: Richard at February 18, 2018 08:48 PM (UKrkm)
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Absolutely this!
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 08:50 PM (Sfs6o)
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297 Funny how the gun grabbers are in full-throated roar now, but have completely forgotten Las Vegas, which had a much higher death toll. I wonder why that is?
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 08:50 PM (sdi6R)
Or the Church shooting in Texas. 26 killed.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 08:50 PM (sdi6R)
Or the Church shooting in Texas. 26 killed.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2018 08:51 PM (2DOZq)
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I don't think this latest incident will be the main topic of discussion in a month. I don't think the Dems will pound even more toes on their own feet with a 10-lb sledge by making "gun control!!! eleventy!!!" a centerpiece of their already-insane mid-term campaign agenda.
I hope I am very, very wrong on that second point.
I hope I am very, very wrong on that second point.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:51 PM (QDnY+)
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It goes back to what Soltzhenitsyn said.
For freedom to stand a chance, the commissars coming to your door will have to be more afraid of YOU than of not doing their job.
For freedom to stand a chance, the commissars coming to your door will have to be more afraid of YOU than of not doing their job.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 18, 2018 08:54 PM (0jtPF)
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I load my match rounds on an RCBS 505. I have a lot fancier tuned triple beam and electronic scales but the 505 is what I use for precision reloading
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 08:54 PM (Sfs6o)
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I think you did Bill.
Better give me her phone # and I'll try to straighten things out.
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 08:33 PM (meYfp)
Nah, I'll take my chances. I used to work with her here in Michigan about 12 years ago. She was studying for her degree and teaching certificate and we used to have deep discussions often. She would come to me or me and my coworker with some obvious lefty bullshit they taught her in school and we would point out the error of their ways. The company went under in 08 but we remained friends. She has since gotten a divorce and I've seen her a couple times in Florida, but haven't taken that next step.
Better give me her phone # and I'll try to straighten things out.
Posted by: JT at February 18, 2018 08:33 PM (meYfp)
Nah, I'll take my chances. I used to work with her here in Michigan about 12 years ago. She was studying for her degree and teaching certificate and we used to have deep discussions often. She would come to me or me and my coworker with some obvious lefty bullshit they taught her in school and we would point out the error of their ways. The company went under in 08 but we remained friends. She has since gotten a divorce and I've seen her a couple times in Florida, but haven't taken that next step.
Posted by: Bill R. at February 18, 2018 08:54 PM (IuYIh)
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Concur with Weasel, Richard laid it out nicely. And always - always - look for used gear when it comes to the really tough stuff - presses, dies, etc. They normally work good-as-new, and will outlive you - easy place to save when outfitting your bench.
TPOP, don't know what a jeweler's scale is like, but I imagine it would work just fine. We're not talking really precise measurements, by industrial standards. And if you're reloading handgun ammo, visual confirmation of the load should give you total inner peace (easy, except in powder-puff loads in .357 cases, for example, where you have to peer in each one with a light).
TPOP, don't know what a jeweler's scale is like, but I imagine it would work just fine. We're not talking really precise measurements, by industrial standards. And if you're reloading handgun ammo, visual confirmation of the load should give you total inner peace (easy, except in powder-puff loads in .357 cases, for example, where you have to peer in each one with a light).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:55 PM (QDnY+)
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Weasel, I'm finally at the point where I'm shaking out individual grains (still a 505 RCBS balance beam) and I just started keeping track of standard deviation on my chrono. Best I've gotten is 8 fps; usually it's around 20.
It really livens up a shooting session to be really invested in what you're shooting.
It really livens up a shooting session to be really invested in what you're shooting.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 08:55 PM (HQfxm)
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302. Yes. And never forget, the armed man who wants you disarmed is NOT your protector. He wants to be your master.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 08:55 PM (fA1SL)
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Let's say gun confiscation gets passed and signed into law. Not all guns just semi autos. The voluntary compliance would be very low. This has been the case with state passed bans solar. Who is going to go door to door to collect the rest?. The cops don't have the stomach to disarm known felons under current laws. Go up against citizens who actually are proficient with arms? It's a liberal pipe dream. And we know what's in the pipes.
Posted by: Cosda at February 18, 2018 08:55 PM (Ku8hs)
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I hope I am very, very wrong on that second point.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:51 PM (QDnY+)
I am very, very worried that the GOPe is going to sell us out.
I hope I am very, very wrong on that second point.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:51 PM (QDnY+)
I am very, very worried that the GOPe is going to sell us out.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 08:56 PM (sdi6R)
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Let's say gun confiscation gets passed and signed into law. Not all guns just semi autos. The voluntary compliance would be very low. This has been the case with state passed bans solar. Who is going to go door to door to collect the rest?. The cops don't have the stomach to disarm known felons under current laws. Go up against citizens who actually are proficient with arms? It's a liberal pipe dream. And we know what's in the pipes.
Posted by: Cosda at February
well, when did law abiding citizens ever forcefully rebel against new laws? lately.
Posted by: Cosda at February
well, when did law abiding citizens ever forcefully rebel against new laws? lately.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 18, 2018 08:56 PM (MTjB1)
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I don't think this latest incident will be the main topic of discussion in a month. I don't think the Dems will pound even more toes on their own feet with a 10-lb sledge by making "gun control!!! eleventy!!!" a centerpiece of their already-insane mid-term campaign agenda.
I hope I am very, very wrong on that second point.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:51 PM (QDnY+)
That's been the case recently, but with russia fest 2016 fizzing out they have almost nothing to pull from. War on Women seems ho hum. They're trying to see if this suddenly gets any traction, and the kids protest is about the ultimate "for the children" event. Maybe this time!... hope hope hope
Plus the media will be the conscience of the Dem party even if that's not in the party's best interests.
I hope I am very, very wrong on that second point.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:51 PM (QDnY+)
That's been the case recently, but with russia fest 2016 fizzing out they have almost nothing to pull from. War on Women seems ho hum. They're trying to see if this suddenly gets any traction, and the kids protest is about the ultimate "for the children" event. Maybe this time!... hope hope hope
Plus the media will be the conscience of the Dem party even if that's not in the party's best interests.
Posted by: Keith at February 18, 2018 08:57 PM (USf3s)
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Good night, comrades. Up at 0400 to pay the taxes. Somebody gotta do the essentials so some folks can go on vacations.
Posted by: Eromero at February 18, 2018 08:59 PM (zLDYs)
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Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 18, 2018 08:54 PM (0jtPF)
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur - what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!
~Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur - what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!
~Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
Posted by: SJW Hrothgar at February 18, 2018 08:59 PM (gwPgz)
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Weasel that's interesting that you use a 505 scale, for what I deem your benchrest-level precision in reloading. It's obviously adequate for my much cruder purposes.
I do not weigh each load for any caliber, but with 30-06 (for the M1), I do weigh about 1/3 of the loads, and of course closely visually inspect all of them. Amazing how precise your sense, based on the visuals, become, once you've been doing a certain load for a while (when you're using same headstamp of brass, especially, and there's little variation in internal case volume).
I do not weigh each load for any caliber, but with 30-06 (for the M1), I do weigh about 1/3 of the loads, and of course closely visually inspect all of them. Amazing how precise your sense, based on the visuals, become, once you've been doing a certain load for a while (when you're using same headstamp of brass, especially, and there's little variation in internal case volume).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:59 PM (QDnY+)
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307 302. Yes. And never forget, the armed man who wants you disarmed is NOT your protector. He wants to be your master.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 08:55 PM (fA1SL)
That needs to replace the Mencken quote on the masthead.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 08:55 PM (fA1SL)
That needs to replace the Mencken quote on the masthead.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 08:59 PM (sdi6R)
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In the wake of the shooting that killed 17 people at a high school in Parkland, Florida, stars far and wide are speaking out in the ongoing gun control debate. Now, “The Big Bang Theory” star Mayim Bialik has made an impassioned plea for “civil disobedience.”
The star then threw her support behind the upcoming National School Walkout organized by the activists behind the Women’s March. She also encouraged fans to go to her blog, Grok Nation, where a post she updated called for more practical ways to advocate for gun control.
“Say yes to civil disobedience. Walk out, sit down, stand up, encourage others to do the same, whatever it takes.”
In the wake of the shooting that killed 17 people at a high school in Parkland, Florida, stars far and wide are speaking out in the ongoing gun control debate. Now, “The Big Bang Theory” star Mayim Bialik has made an impassioned plea for “civil disobedience.”
The star then threw her support behind the upcoming National School Walkout organized by the activists behind the Women’s March. She also encouraged fans to go to her blog, Grok Nation, where a post she updated called for more practical ways to advocate for gun control.
“Say yes to civil disobedience. Walk out, sit down, stand up, encourage others to do the same, whatever it takes.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 09:00 PM (IqV8l)
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In response to studies of copy cat suicides, much of the media quit publicizing suicides and especially teen suicides. The mainstream media at least at the local level may have actually gotten this right after enough studies proved their culpability for copycat suicides; search "media coverage as a risk factor in suicide." A teen suicide should never rate more than a small notice in the obituary section.
The Florida school shooter wrote "I'm going to be a professional school shooter."
The media and democrats (but I repeat myself) created this monster and make passionate love to this monster for the opportunity to push gun control. Hold them responsible.
The Florida school shooter wrote "I'm going to be a professional school shooter."
The media and democrats (but I repeat myself) created this monster and make passionate love to this monster for the opportunity to push gun control. Hold them responsible.
Posted by: Someone else will have cold dead hands at February 18, 2018 09:00 PM (xpKpV)
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That needs to replace the Mencken quote on the masthead.
Posted by: rickl
Mencken didn't think much of flyover America. I wonder if he supported gun control?
That needs to replace the Mencken quote on the masthead.
Posted by: rickl
Mencken didn't think much of flyover America. I wonder if he supported gun control?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 09:02 PM (IqV8l)
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319 "I'm going to be a professional school shooter."
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Do you get dental with that?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 18, 2018 09:02 PM (+y/Ru)
No, but the hours are pretty good.
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Do you get dental with that?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 18, 2018 09:02 PM (+y/Ru)
No, but the hours are pretty good.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 09:02 PM (NWiLs)
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306 Weasel, I'm finally at the point where I'm shaking out individual grains (still a 505 RCBS balance beam) and I just started keeping track of standard deviation on my chrono. Best I've gotten is 8 fps; usually it's around 20.
It really livens up a shooting session to be really invested in what you're shooting.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 08:55 PM (HQfxm)
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SD is a good metric but also note the extreme spread. Any variation in velocity shows up as vertical dispersion on the target. Next time you have your chrono out record the velocity of a few 5 round groups and compute the difference between the fastest and slowest. Then drop the high and low velocities into a ballistic computer (JBM makes a great free app) and convert the velocity difference to elevation change. 20 fps could be an inch or more even at 500 yards.
306 Weasel, I'm finally at the point where I'm shaking out individual grains (still a 505 RCBS balance beam) and I just started keeping track of standard deviation on my chrono. Best I've gotten is 8 fps; usually it's around 20.
It really livens up a shooting session to be really invested in what you're shooting.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 08:55 PM (HQfxm)
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SD is a good metric but also note the extreme spread. Any variation in velocity shows up as vertical dispersion on the target. Next time you have your chrono out record the velocity of a few 5 round groups and compute the difference between the fastest and slowest. Then drop the high and low velocities into a ballistic computer (JBM makes a great free app) and convert the velocity difference to elevation change. 20 fps could be an inch or more even at 500 yards.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 09:02 PM (Sfs6o)
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Do you get dental with that?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 18, 2018 09:02 PM (+y/Ru)
Ummmmmm....Yes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 18, 2018 09:02 PM (+y/Ru)
Ummmmmm....Yes.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 18, 2018 09:03 PM (EoRCO)
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dot-dash, think you missed his point. "Rebelling" against the law includes non-compliance - and there has been spectacular non-compliance in a few states that most recently passed the most extreme laws (CT and NY, I think?).
Not all rebellions take the form of storming police stations and seizing the radio.
Not all rebellions take the form of storming police stations and seizing the radio.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:03 PM (QDnY+)
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Mencken didn't think much of flyover America. I wonder if he supported gun control?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 09:02 PM (IqV8l)
I think Mencken would have supported gun control for the peasants!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 09:02 PM (IqV8l)
I think Mencken would have supported gun control for the peasants!
Posted by: SJW Hrothgar at February 18, 2018 09:03 PM (gwPgz)
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" Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. " St. Teresa of Calcutta
Posted by: JAS at February 18, 2018 09:04 PM (7JbXq)
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"Say yes to civil disobedience. Walk out, sit down, stand up, encourage others to do the same, whatever it takes."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 09:00 PM (IqV8l)
Sounds good to me. So she's saying that gun owners should stop obeying blatantly unconstitutional laws?
"Say yes to civil disobedience. Walk out, sit down, stand up, encourage others to do the same, whatever it takes."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 09:00 PM (IqV8l)
Sounds good to me. So she's saying that gun owners should stop obeying blatantly unconstitutional laws?
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:04 PM (sdi6R)
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"The Big Bang Theory" star Mayim Bialik has made an impassioned plea for "civil disobedience."
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Damn. I used to like her.
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Damn. I used to like her.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 18, 2018 09:04 PM (+y/Ru)
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303 I load my match rounds on an RCBS 505. I have a lot fancier tuned triple beam and electronic scales but the 505 is what I use for precision reloading
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 08:54 PM (Sfs6o)
I'll 3rd (or 4th) the RCBS 505 suggestion. Very good value for the money.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 08:54 PM (Sfs6o)
I'll 3rd (or 4th) the RCBS 505 suggestion. Very good value for the money.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 18, 2018 09:05 PM (DNH+H)
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Plus the media will be the conscience of the Dem party even if that's not in the party's best interests.
Posted by: Keith at February 18, 2018 08:57 PM (USf3s)
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This is my fear. The most radical elements of the Democrats are their conscience, so they will continue to drift in that direction.
Posted by: Keith at February 18, 2018 08:57 PM (USf3s)
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This is my fear. The most radical elements of the Democrats are their conscience, so they will continue to drift in that direction.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 18, 2018 09:06 PM (/qEW2)
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The star then threw her support behind the upcoming National School Walkout organized by the activists behind the Women's March.
WTF would the point of that be?
LOL. THese people are such idiots.
WTF would the point of that be?
LOL. THese people are such idiots.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 09:06 PM (8gDQu)
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"The Big Bang Theory" star Mayim Bialik has made an impassioned plea for "civil disobedience."
Confirms my decision to cancel DirecTV and disconnect the OTA antenna!
Confirms my decision to cancel DirecTV and disconnect the OTA antenna!
Posted by: SJW Hrothgar at February 18, 2018 09:07 PM (gwPgz)
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I have not the slightest concern the GOP will be "selling out" anything/anyone on "gun control".
Has absolutely nothing to do with merits, or their sincerity, intelligence, honesty, etc. Simple political reality.
There's a reason amnesty and "gun control" weren't touched, weren't even approached, when Obama was in the WH and Dems controlled both houses.
Two of their most pernicious, stupid hobby horses - completely ignored. There's a reason for that.
Has absolutely nothing to do with merits, or their sincerity, intelligence, honesty, etc. Simple political reality.
There's a reason amnesty and "gun control" weren't touched, weren't even approached, when Obama was in the WH and Dems controlled both houses.
Two of their most pernicious, stupid hobby horses - completely ignored. There's a reason for that.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:07 PM (QDnY+)
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dot-dash, think you missed his point. "Rebelling" against the law includes non-compliance - and there has been spectacular non-compliance in a few states that most recently passed the most extreme laws (CT and NY, I think?).
Not all rebellions take the form of storming police stations and seizing the radio.
Posted by: rhomboid at February
while I agree with you about non-compliance, I am sure his reference to cops not having the stomach to go up against citizens that are proficient in the use of their weapons is not a reference to non-compliance. non-compliance does not require weapons or proficiency in their use.
Not all rebellions take the form of storming police stations and seizing the radio.
Posted by: rhomboid at February
while I agree with you about non-compliance, I am sure his reference to cops not having the stomach to go up against citizens that are proficient in the use of their weapons is not a reference to non-compliance. non-compliance does not require weapons or proficiency in their use.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 18, 2018 09:07 PM (MTjB1)
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327. She's a radfem, so of course.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 09:08 PM (fA1SL)
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314 Weasel that's interesting that you use a 505 scale, for what I deem your benchrest-level precision in reloading. It's obviously adequate for my much cruder purposes.
I do not weigh each load for any caliber, but with 30-06 (for the M1), I do weigh about 1/3 of the loads, and of course closely visually inspect all of them. Amazing how precise your sense, based on the visuals, become, once you've been doing a certain load for a while (when you're using same headstamp of brass, especially, and there's little variation in internal case volume).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:59 PM (QDnY+)
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I trickle all of my match rifle loads to the speck of powder. The 505 is actually pretty sensitive. I have a tuned M5 scale and a really expensive electronic pharmaceutical scale neither of which really ever get used much. For handgun plinking I use a very inexpensive digital scale and just check every 20th round or so. At handgun distances I don't see much benefit in being more accurate than that.
I do not weigh each load for any caliber, but with 30-06 (for the M1), I do weigh about 1/3 of the loads, and of course closely visually inspect all of them. Amazing how precise your sense, based on the visuals, become, once you've been doing a certain load for a while (when you're using same headstamp of brass, especially, and there's little variation in internal case volume).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:59 PM (QDnY+)
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I trickle all of my match rifle loads to the speck of powder. The 505 is actually pretty sensitive. I have a tuned M5 scale and a really expensive electronic pharmaceutical scale neither of which really ever get used much. For handgun plinking I use a very inexpensive digital scale and just check every 20th round or so. At handgun distances I don't see much benefit in being more accurate than that.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 09:08 PM (Sfs6o)
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283 ... Hurricane, The Lee Challenger press is an excellent single stage press.
I prefer Bullseye powder to Clays with 230 grain RN 45acp loads. Never had a problem getting the pistol to cycle. (I think I read that Bullseye was an original powder for the cartridge but not sure if that's correct.)
I use Lee dippers most of the time. If they don't provide just the charge I want, it is easy to modify a larger one or make the equivalent from a spent case. I always pick up used dipper sets when possible for that reason.
I prefer Bullseye powder to Clays with 230 grain RN 45acp loads. Never had a problem getting the pistol to cycle. (I think I read that Bullseye was an original powder for the cartridge but not sure if that's correct.)
I use Lee dippers most of the time. If they don't provide just the charge I want, it is easy to modify a larger one or make the equivalent from a spent case. I always pick up used dipper sets when possible for that reason.
Posted by: JTB at February 18, 2018 09:08 PM (V+03K)
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The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!
~Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
That's cute and all, but Russians have never had a history of individual freedom. Stalin was just one more in a long, long line of Russian authoritarians.
~Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
That's cute and all, but Russians have never had a history of individual freedom. Stalin was just one more in a long, long line of Russian authoritarians.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 09:09 PM (8gDQu)
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I don't think this latest incident will be the main topic of discussion in a month. I don't think the Dems will pound even more toes on their own feet with a 10-lb sledge by making "gun control!!! eleventy!!!" a centerpiece of their already-insane mid-term campaign agenda.
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Joe "Butthead" Scarborough:
Republicans' Indifference To The Massacres Of Innocents Will Lead To Their Ruin
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Joe "Butthead" Scarborough:
Republicans' Indifference To The Massacres Of Innocents Will Lead To Their Ruin
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 18, 2018 09:09 PM (+y/Ru)
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Extreme spread! Now we're talking!
Seriously, nice to have expert knowledge here, Weasel.
Seriously, nice to have expert knowledge here, Weasel.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 09:09 PM (HQfxm)
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337. Ahem. - Cossacks
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 09:10 PM (fA1SL)
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I just wasted a couple of hours in what I will charitably call a discussion with some anti-gun nuts on Facebook. The ignorance about firearms, firearm laws, and the 2nd amendment is appalling. They obviously confuse AR15s with M16s. And don't know what an assault rifle is. I gotta admit I'm not so sure of the accepted definition of an assault rifle. I have my working definition but don't know how accepted it is. Hard to have a discussion if sides can't agrees on terms. But they are so sure they have the moral high ground. The level of inflamed rhetoric is astounding. If you ask them to explain what they mean or what the logic of their argument is they just double down and head off in another unhinged direction. The only benefit to me was to vent some frustration I'm feeling over a personal situation. I need to find an online article that explains all in simple form and just post that link whenever I find a similar "discussion."
Posted by: Ron Riley at February 18, 2018 09:11 PM (K0xn1)
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As I think I said waaaay up-thread, the two steps are 1) increasing GOP majorities 2) making such majorities worth almost *anything*.
Step 2 remains a baffling paradox. What is looking to be an insurgent-free primary season pretty much guarantees the GOP will continue to be nearly useless, except as a limit on the worst of the opposition.
The Dems' keeping "gun control!!" alive and popping until November would almost certainly help with Step 1. Have no idea, given what appears to be the state of the country and the electorate, how anyone even begins to address Step 2.
Step 2 remains a baffling paradox. What is looking to be an insurgent-free primary season pretty much guarantees the GOP will continue to be nearly useless, except as a limit on the worst of the opposition.
The Dems' keeping "gun control!!" alive and popping until November would almost certainly help with Step 1. Have no idea, given what appears to be the state of the country and the electorate, how anyone even begins to address Step 2.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:12 PM (QDnY+)
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Here's a trick I use with my 505. Get a bunch of stick-on lead wheel weights and stick them on the underside. Get a pound,of them in there if you can. It makes the scale much less prone to moving around on your reloading bench. I also have mine on a heavy scrap piece of marble.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 09:12 PM (Sfs6o)
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The Florida school shooter wrote "I'm going to be a professional school shooter."
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Posted by: Someone else will have cold dead hands
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Right, If that coach who sacrificed his life for the children had been wearing a pistol on his belt this POS would be a different story.
Open the doors wide but performers be aware every employee is armed.
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Posted by: Someone else will have cold dead hands
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Right, If that coach who sacrificed his life for the children had been wearing a pistol on his belt this POS would be a different story.
Open the doors wide but performers be aware every employee is armed.
Posted by: gNewt at February 18, 2018 09:12 PM (Xrson)
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325 " Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. " St. Teresa of Calcutta
Posted by: JAS at February 18, 2018 09:04 PM (7JbXq)
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And the Left not only accepts it, they promote and glorify it.
Posted by: JAS at February 18, 2018 09:04 PM (7JbXq)
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And the Left not only accepts it, they promote and glorify it.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 18, 2018 09:12 PM (0jtPF)
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No giving in to the gun grabbing fascist.
NONE.
Fight them no matter who they put up. The parents of the victims, the loved ones, whomever, fight them
It is not genuine. I will not let a crisis be used to put us in chains.
NONE.
Fight them no matter who they put up. The parents of the victims, the loved ones, whomever, fight them
It is not genuine. I will not let a crisis be used to put us in chains.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 18, 2018 09:12 PM (3BFzK)
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Civil Disobedience! Go in thru the out door! Spit on the sidewalk! Park in the white zone when you are not unloading! Let the world know of your disgrunt!
Posted by: La La La La La La Lobster at February 18, 2018 09:13 PM (UdKB7)
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That's cute and all, but Russians have never had a history of individual freedom. Stalin was just one more in a long, long line of Russian authoritarians.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
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This ain't Russia. And that story is dead serious.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
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This ain't Russia. And that story is dead serious.
Posted by: gNewt at February 18, 2018 09:13 PM (Xrson)
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I posted this a few days ago, right as the Nood came up, which is probably about to happen again, but:
People yell back and forth about mental health, but it's a subject that is going to be increasingly important (because, generally, as a civilization, despite setbacks, we're progressing toward greater and greater personal power due to technology and education).
Unfortunately, our understanding of the subject and ability is worse than our barely-better-than-ancient-Greek level of physical medicine (yes we have many more medicines and procedures, but our processes are sloppy and our tools are still primitive compared to our ideas).
So, basically, sooner or later we're going to have to go all Space Program on that problem, hopefully before someone slips the net and does to a whole city what these periodic nutters do to a school or business.
It's either that or harden literally everything, which, civil liberties aside, would just be *exhausting*.
What that *means* is devoting serious, well-funded, thousands-of-serious-and-thoughtful-people resources to a systematic effort to help borderline people obtain self-control and to supervise over-the-border people.
And that is going to require us to grow our economy substantially, because we are apparently incapable of getting spending under control.
1) Mine the asteroid belt (sounds crazy but we're metaphorical inches away).
2) Massive moon-shot level of testing of genetic editing.
3) Massive moon-shot level of research into mental illness, both organic and functional.
*All* of this is dangerous. Each one can go terribly wrong. Sitting back and not doing them is just more dangerous.
People yell back and forth about mental health, but it's a subject that is going to be increasingly important (because, generally, as a civilization, despite setbacks, we're progressing toward greater and greater personal power due to technology and education).
Unfortunately, our understanding of the subject and ability is worse than our barely-better-than-ancient-Greek level of physical medicine (yes we have many more medicines and procedures, but our processes are sloppy and our tools are still primitive compared to our ideas).
So, basically, sooner or later we're going to have to go all Space Program on that problem, hopefully before someone slips the net and does to a whole city what these periodic nutters do to a school or business.
It's either that or harden literally everything, which, civil liberties aside, would just be *exhausting*.
What that *means* is devoting serious, well-funded, thousands-of-serious-and-thoughtful-people resources to a systematic effort to help borderline people obtain self-control and to supervise over-the-border people.
And that is going to require us to grow our economy substantially, because we are apparently incapable of getting spending under control.
1) Mine the asteroid belt (sounds crazy but we're metaphorical inches away).
2) Massive moon-shot level of testing of genetic editing.
3) Massive moon-shot level of research into mental illness, both organic and functional.
*All* of this is dangerous. Each one can go terribly wrong. Sitting back and not doing them is just more dangerous.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 18, 2018 09:13 PM (wB8Tg)
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 09:13 PM (HQfxm)
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you ask them to explain what they mean or what the logic of their argument is they just double down and head off in another unhinged direction.
Posted by: Ron Riley at February
that is a tactic.
spend your time on this side of the aisle explaining the first, second, and fourth amendment violations that there cries of "we have to do something" entail.
Posted by: Ron Riley at February
that is a tactic.
spend your time on this side of the aisle explaining the first, second, and fourth amendment violations that there cries of "we have to do something" entail.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 18, 2018 09:14 PM (MTjB1)
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No giving in to the gun grabbing fascist.
NONE.
Fight them no matter who they put up. The parents of the victims, the loved ones, whomever, fight them
It is not genuine. I will not let a crisis be used to put us in chains.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 18, 2018 09:12 PM (3BFzK)
1000 times This.
NONE.
Fight them no matter who they put up. The parents of the victims, the loved ones, whomever, fight them
It is not genuine. I will not let a crisis be used to put us in chains.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 18, 2018 09:12 PM (3BFzK)
1000 times This.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 18, 2018 09:14 PM (aMlLZ)
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339 Extreme spread! Now we're talking!
Seriously, nice to have expert knowledge here, Weasel.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 09:09 PM (HQfxm)
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Absolutely any time. Happy to help!
Seriously, nice to have expert knowledge here, Weasel.
Posted by: RI Redbot - Now, with & Platinum Membership at February 18, 2018 09:09 PM (HQfxm)
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Absolutely any time. Happy to help!
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 09:14 PM (Sfs6o)
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Ooh, gun thread. And while I'm watching Battle Royale too!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:14 PM (xJa6I)
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Posted by: Ron Riley at February 18, 2018 09:11 PM (K0xn1)
Whenever you're talking about guns with lefties, you have to throw a bunch of "high powered rifle" comments in. They really love that shit - even more than "assault rifle".
Whenever you're talking about guns with lefties, you have to throw a bunch of "high powered rifle" comments in. They really love that shit - even more than "assault rifle".
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 09:14 PM (8gDQu)
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dot-dash, I might have not read everything you were responding to, so my bad. I have never made and will never offer any sort of comment at all on this venerable HQ taffy yank (will the cops/military enforce some apocalyptic laws, etc etc.). My comment was addressed solely to non-compliance as a sign of "rebellion" of a sort.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:15 PM (QDnY+)
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Just a note.
My hands will not be cold.
My hands will be hot from my barrels and my body will be warm from the warm brass all around me.
My hands will not be cold.
My hands will be hot from my barrels and my body will be warm from the warm brass all around me.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 18, 2018 09:15 PM (3BFzK)
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324 Mencken didn't think much of flyover America. I wonder if he supported gun control?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 09:02 PM (IqV8l)
I think Mencken would have supported gun control for the peasants!
Posted by: SJW Hrothgar at February 18, 2018 09:03 PM (gwPgz)
From my limited knowledge of him, Mencken was a progressive and identified with the East Coast intelligentsia. He had contempt for ordinary Americans, which he termed the "booboisie".
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 09:02 PM (IqV8l)
I think Mencken would have supported gun control for the peasants!
Posted by: SJW Hrothgar at February 18, 2018 09:03 PM (gwPgz)
From my limited knowledge of him, Mencken was a progressive and identified with the East Coast intelligentsia. He had contempt for ordinary Americans, which he termed the "booboisie".
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:15 PM (sdi6R)
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336 I prefer Bullseye powder to Clays with 230 grain RN 45acp loads. Never had a problem getting the pistol to cycle.
Posted by: JTB at February 18, 2018 09:08 PM (V+03K)
I've never used Clays, but I also recommend Bullseye in 45ACP. HP38 and Win231 are good in .45 and 9mm, too. (HP38 and Win231 are allegedly the exact same powder, with different names).
Posted by: JTB at February 18, 2018 09:08 PM (V+03K)
I've never used Clays, but I also recommend Bullseye in 45ACP. HP38 and Win231 are good in .45 and 9mm, too. (HP38 and Win231 are allegedly the exact same powder, with different names).
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 18, 2018 09:16 PM (DNH+H)
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Is there some sort of collective punishment for current commenters because nobody has socked up and done the obligatory
"Extreme spread. Now we're talking!" - Sandra Fluke
comment?
"Extreme spread. Now we're talking!" - Sandra Fluke
comment?
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:16 PM (QDnY+)
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That's cute and all, but Russians have never had a history of individual freedom. Stalin was just one more in a long, long line of Russian authoritarians.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 09:09 PM (8gDQu)
True enough, but it's remarkable that Solzhenitsyn was alive to document his memoirs. And more to the point, have you been to a Walmart lately and observed the by-products of a free society as they cash their EBT credits?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 09:09 PM (8gDQu)
True enough, but it's remarkable that Solzhenitsyn was alive to document his memoirs. And more to the point, have you been to a Walmart lately and observed the by-products of a free society as they cash their EBT credits?
Posted by: SJW Hrothgar at February 18, 2018 09:17 PM (gwPgz)
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I always buy factory ammo. Costs more but until recently, I could afford it.
I had bad experiences with reman ammo, one almost blew up my .300 blk rifle. Not cool.
I also never got into handloading. Don't ask me why but I feel safer with loaded ammo around than I do with gunpowder and primers. Might be a mental thing, I haz them.
I had bad experiences with reman ammo, one almost blew up my .300 blk rifle. Not cool.
I also never got into handloading. Don't ask me why but I feel safer with loaded ammo around than I do with gunpowder and primers. Might be a mental thing, I haz them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:17 PM (xJa6I)
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every time some commie dipshit brings up gun control with me, i always ask about abortion control. they got nothing. fuckin assholes. abortion has destroyed more human life than guns ever have. fact.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 18, 2018 09:18 PM (KP5rU)
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dot-dash, I might have not read everything you were responding to, so my bad. I have never made and will never offer any sort of comment at all on this venerable HQ taffy yank (will the cops/military enforce some apocalyptic laws, etc etc.). My comment was addressed solely to non-compliance as a sign of "rebellion" of a sort.
Posted by: rhomboid at February
we're good. fwiw misreading and responding to comments wrong has led to some my more enjoyable exchanges here.
Posted by: rhomboid at February
we're good. fwiw misreading and responding to comments wrong has led to some my more enjoyable exchanges here.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 18, 2018 09:18 PM (MTjB1)
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[Mencken] had contempt for ordinary Americans, which he termed the "booboisie".
Posted by: rickl
so the throats he would begin slitting would be. . . ours?
Posted by: rickl
so the throats he would begin slitting would be. . . ours?
Posted by: booknlass at February 18, 2018 09:18 PM (bjSMX)
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From my limited knowledge of him, Mencken was a progressive and identified with the East Coast intelligentsia. He had contempt for ordinary Americans, which he termed the "booboisie".
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:15 PM (sdi6R)
Maybe that shit stain shouldn't be on top of the page.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:15 PM (sdi6R)
Maybe that shit stain shouldn't be on top of the page.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 18, 2018 09:18 PM (aMlLZ)
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Iowa Bob I think HP38/Win231 are literally the same powder, produced by the same factory (St Mark's) in FL. Their reloading data are identical, so it's moot, in a sense (and for a long time - haven't bought powder for a while - W231 was a tad more expensive, thus I've always bought HP3
.
HP38 is among the most versatile and useful of powders, seems to me. I use/have used it in all my handgun loads (9mm, 38spl, 45ACP), and an 8-lb jug is stored away as my "strategic reserve", since it covers all my handgun needs (which will add 380ACP and 45 Colt, at some not too distant point).
.HP38 is among the most versatile and useful of powders, seems to me. I use/have used it in all my handgun loads (9mm, 38spl, 45ACP), and an 8-lb jug is stored away as my "strategic reserve", since it covers all my handgun needs (which will add 380ACP and 45 Colt, at some not too distant point).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:19 PM (QDnY+)
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so the throats he would begin slitting would be. . . ours?
Posted by: booknlass at February 18, 2018 09:18 PM (bjSMX)
Meh ... let's not quibble over details.
Posted by: booknlass at February 18, 2018 09:18 PM (bjSMX)
Meh ... let's not quibble over details.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 09:19 PM (8gDQu)
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Mencken is cool with me because he hated everybody equally.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 18, 2018 09:20 PM (3BFzK)
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365
so the throats he would begin slitting would be. . . ours?
Posted by: booknlass at February 18, 2018 09:18 PM (bjSMX)
Well, he also head a healthy disdain for authority. Like I said, my knowledge of him is limited.
so the throats he would begin slitting would be. . . ours?
Posted by: booknlass at February 18, 2018 09:18 PM (bjSMX)
Well, he also head a healthy disdain for authority. Like I said, my knowledge of him is limited.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:20 PM (sdi6R)
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so the throats he would begin slitting would be. . . ours?
Posted by: booknlass at February
what the hell, lets get started. my guess is we give at least as good as we get.
Posted by: booknlass at February
what the hell, lets get started. my guess is we give at least as good as we get.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 18, 2018 09:20 PM (MTjB1)
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As usual, I blame the GOP.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 18, 2018 09:20 PM (r9UYA)
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254 - if that beautiful gal said politics is off the table I think your chances are good provided politics is really off the table. You are going to need some patience, though.
Posted by: vivi at February 18, 2018 09:21 PM (11H2y)
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369. True enough. And, besides, this is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let's not bicker and argue over 'oo killed 'oo.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 09:21 PM (fA1SL)
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Posted by: JTB at February 18, 2018 09:08 PM (V+03K)
I've never used Clays, but I also recommend Bullseye in 45ACP. HP38 and Win231 are good in .45 and 9mm, too. (HP38 and Win231 are allegedly the exact same powder, with different names).
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 18, 2018 09:16 PM (DNH+H)
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I use W231 for a bunch of handgun calibers. Also H110 and 2400 for magnum loads. I have an 8# container of bullseye that I'm waiting to use. Ive heard the W231/HP38 thing too - at least so close the difference is negligible.
I've never used Clays, but I also recommend Bullseye in 45ACP. HP38 and Win231 are good in .45 and 9mm, too. (HP38 and Win231 are allegedly the exact same powder, with different names).
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 18, 2018 09:16 PM (DNH+H)
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I use W231 for a bunch of handgun calibers. Also H110 and 2400 for magnum loads. I have an 8# container of bullseye that I'm waiting to use. Ive heard the W231/HP38 thing too - at least so close the difference is negligible.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 09:21 PM (Sfs6o)
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"The Big Bang Theory" star Mayim Bialik has made an impassioned plea for "civil disobedience."
She also said she want everybody to make it their life goal to support
and vote for people that oppose candidate with NRA money.
So I guess being an astronaut or curing cancer are out and being a Dem lemming are in.
The Dems are ramping up the hysteria on this more than any other shooting I can recall. Really seems like they are looking to stoke up some violence.
She also said she want everybody to make it their life goal to support
and vote for people that oppose candidate with NRA money.
So I guess being an astronaut or curing cancer are out and being a Dem lemming are in.
The Dems are ramping up the hysteria on this more than any other shooting I can recall. Really seems like they are looking to stoke up some violence.
Posted by: Ripley at February 18, 2018 09:23 PM (NbRJx)
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Mencken was a douchenozzle.
Posted by: vivi at February 18, 2018 09:23 PM (11H2y)
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That's too bad about Mayim Bialik. Maybe point out gun laws and usage in Israel as I understand she's pro-Israel despite her liberalism?
Posted by: andycanuck at February 18, 2018 09:24 PM (ewxPW)
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OK - bedtime! Have a good night everyone.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 09:24 PM (Sfs6o)
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My methods of arguing with gun grabbers is pretty direct, I usually say what if an actual hard core bible thumper gets in control of the newly disarmed population and decides he's gonna start executing fags, trannys, and people who had abortions. You gonna throw rocks at his troops? Didn't think so, so shut the fuck up and grow a pair.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 18, 2018 09:24 PM (aMlLZ)
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Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 09:21 PM (Sfs6o)
I'm not as sophisticated as you guys with this, and I only load a few pistol rounds at medium levels, but Silhouette is my favorite powder.
I'm not as sophisticated as you guys with this, and I only load a few pistol rounds at medium levels, but Silhouette is my favorite powder.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 09:24 PM (8gDQu)
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Mencken was just continuing the British attitude about Americans. Yankee Doodle wasn't a compliment. We just appropriated it.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2018 09:24 PM (2DOZq)
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dot-dash, oh yes, and following these little sub-current misunderstandings in the comments can be amusing, too, when you've actually read all the relevant items and know how people are commenting past each other.
Mark, that's fine - to each their own. Since you sort of brought it up, there's a fairly interesting series of videos produced by the national firefighter's association (something like that) on what happens to ammo in fires. Think they were done to research/educate firefighters on the topic. Ammo companies donated f***king pallets of ammo, and they were set alight in varying situations.
Quite interesting. Bottom line (IIRC) - nothing observed in the tests constituted any serious additional hazard to firefighters. Most ammo just sort of "pops" and oozes - there's certainly (of course) nothing resembling acceleration of projectiles as occurs in firearms, where the ammo is inside a chamber designed to contain/direct the pressure towards acceleration of said projectile.
I recommend looking up these videos online, very interesting.
Mark, that's fine - to each their own. Since you sort of brought it up, there's a fairly interesting series of videos produced by the national firefighter's association (something like that) on what happens to ammo in fires. Think they were done to research/educate firefighters on the topic. Ammo companies donated f***king pallets of ammo, and they were set alight in varying situations.
Quite interesting. Bottom line (IIRC) - nothing observed in the tests constituted any serious additional hazard to firefighters. Most ammo just sort of "pops" and oozes - there's certainly (of course) nothing resembling acceleration of projectiles as occurs in firearms, where the ammo is inside a chamber designed to contain/direct the pressure towards acceleration of said projectile.
I recommend looking up these videos online, very interesting.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:25 PM (QDnY+)
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I just wasted a couple of hours in what I will charitably call a discussion with some anti-gun nuts on Facebook. The ignorance about firearms, firearm laws, and the 2nd amendment is appalling. They obviously confuse AR15s with M16s. And don't know what an assault rifle is. I gotta admit I'm not so sure of the accepted definition of an assault rifle. I have my working definition but don't know how accepted it is. Hard to have a discussion if sides can't agrees on terms. But they are so sure they have the moral high ground. The level of inflamed rhetoric is astounding. If you ask them to explain what they mean or what the logic of their argument is they just double down and head off in another unhinged direction. The only benefit to me was to vent some frustration I'm feeling over a personal situation. I need to find an online article that explains all in simple form and just post that link whenever I find a similar "discussion."
Posted by: Ron Riley at February 18, 2018 09:11 PM (K0xn1)
Simply ask them what the "AR" in AR 15 stands for. Not a one of them will know it stands for Armalite Rifle, the company that first introduced this product. Then, ask them how many rounds can be fired per second from such a rifle. Not a one will know that it is one round per trigger pull,
My own brother, who still lives in Chicagadishu, lost his mind when I told him I had 3 ARs and 2 AK 47s. I had to patiently ask him what he knew about these guns, and educate him from there. His natural lefty assumption was that all of these were full auto.
Posted by: Ron Riley at February 18, 2018 09:11 PM (K0xn1)
Simply ask them what the "AR" in AR 15 stands for. Not a one of them will know it stands for Armalite Rifle, the company that first introduced this product. Then, ask them how many rounds can be fired per second from such a rifle. Not a one will know that it is one round per trigger pull,
My own brother, who still lives in Chicagadishu, lost his mind when I told him I had 3 ARs and 2 AK 47s. I had to patiently ask him what he knew about these guns, and educate him from there. His natural lefty assumption was that all of these were full auto.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 18, 2018 09:25 PM (/zp4x)
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" Really seems like they are looking to stoke up some violence. "
This.
School shootings are good to push the narrative along, but they're really hoping for another Hodgkinson or Hinckley.
This.
School shootings are good to push the narrative along, but they're really hoping for another Hodgkinson or Hinckley.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 18, 2018 09:26 PM (H0hPC)
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You should check out Bialik's mothering theory. She's a nut.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2018 09:26 PM (2DOZq)
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363 every time some commie dipshit brings up gun control with me, i always ask about abortion control. they got nothing. fuckin assholes. abortion has destroyed more human life than guns ever have. fact.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 18, 2018 09:18 PM (KP5rU)
Yeah but babies can't fight back. We (some of us at least) will.
I'm single-thread on gun grabbing. It is my red line.
*a lot of typing and deleting went here*
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 18, 2018 09:18 PM (KP5rU)
Yeah but babies can't fight back. We (some of us at least) will.
I'm single-thread on gun grabbing. It is my red line.
*a lot of typing and deleting went here*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:26 PM (xJa6I)
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Maybe point out gun laws and usage in Israel as I understand she's pro-Israel despite her liberalism?
Posted by: andycanuck at February 18, 2018 09:24 PM (ewxPW)
Carry laws are pretty strict in Israel for those not in the military, actually, but on the flip side everyone has a galil or uzi or two in their house.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 18, 2018 09:24 PM (ewxPW)
Carry laws are pretty strict in Israel for those not in the military, actually, but on the flip side everyone has a galil or uzi or two in their house.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 09:26 PM (8gDQu)
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Mmm. Macaroni.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 18, 2018 09:27 PM (ewxPW)
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I just wasted a couple of hours in what I will charitably call a discussion with some anti-gun nuts on Facebook. The ignorance about firearms, firearm laws, and the 2nd amendment is appalling. They obviously confuse AR15s with M16s.
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who cares what these nuts think. I've abandoned facebook, let them circle jerk themsleves to death.
I'd think even admitting there's a difference between types of guns that are good and bad is teh camel nose under the tent. At the end of the day, guns don't kill...people do...especially the type of people gun grabbers put in power. The most dangerous place is a gun free zone.
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who cares what these nuts think. I've abandoned facebook, let them circle jerk themsleves to death.
I'd think even admitting there's a difference between types of guns that are good and bad is teh camel nose under the tent. At the end of the day, guns don't kill...people do...especially the type of people gun grabbers put in power. The most dangerous place is a gun free zone.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:27 PM (V3U1L)
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there is no accepted definition of an assault rifle. That's the trick behind it all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 18, 2018 09:27 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:28 PM (xJa6I)
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384: "Chicagdishu" needs to become the accepted term in the AoSHQ Style Guide.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:29 PM (sdi6R)
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TPOP I use Silhouette in my 9mm. Have tried it in 45 and 38 as well, but for my purposes it's best in 9mm. Only drawback is how fine an actual powder it really is - though my equipment still loads it precisely enough for me. Because of its burn rate I think it's best in the higher pressure handgun calibers (9mm, .40), vs low-pressure ones like 45/38. And since I generally load to lowest-energy-that-will-work-the action, or minimum accurate pressure for revolver, it has limited uses for me. But a good powder.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:29 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: JAS at February 18, 2018 09:29 PM (7JbXq)
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Also, you know, the billboards/posters/rent-a-riots are all in the warehouse, waiting for the next tragedy.
Of course, the argument comes next to "well, our precious muslims kill folks and you want to ban them, huhhhnnnn?"
yes, we can do crazy on our own here without a new class of asploding for god types. I mean, we're dealing with liberals shooting up congress and churches already, you know.
Of course, the argument comes next to "well, our precious muslims kill folks and you want to ban them, huhhhnnnn?"
yes, we can do crazy on our own here without a new class of asploding for god types. I mean, we're dealing with liberals shooting up congress and churches already, you know.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:29 PM (V3U1L)
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That's cute and all, but Russians have never had a history of individual freedom. Stalin was just one more in a long, long line of Russian authoritarians.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 09:09 PM (8gDQu)
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Yes, Russia has never had a history of freedom.
But no, Stalin was not "just one more."
The Bolsheviks, BTW, were totalitarians, not "authoritarians."
There is a qualitative as well as quantitative difference.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 09:09 PM (8gDQu)
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Yes, Russia has never had a history of freedom.
But no, Stalin was not "just one more."
The Bolsheviks, BTW, were totalitarians, not "authoritarians."
There is a qualitative as well as quantitative difference.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 18, 2018 09:29 PM (0jtPF)
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there is no accepted definition of an assault rifle. That's the trick behind it all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February
yep. feature, not bug. they do not want clearly defined discussions on anything. which is why they have rolled out "assault rifles", "white privilege" and so on.
you do not want to make the mistake of presenting a problem that has a clearly definable goal, you want it to be unsolvable.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February
yep. feature, not bug. they do not want clearly defined discussions on anything. which is why they have rolled out "assault rifles", "white privilege" and so on.
you do not want to make the mistake of presenting a problem that has a clearly definable goal, you want it to be unsolvable.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 18, 2018 09:30 PM (MTjB1)
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387: uhmmmm?
Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 18, 2018 09:30 PM (KP5rU)
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314 Weasel that's interesting that you use a 505 scale, for what I deem your benchrest-level precision in reloading. It's obviously adequate for my much cruder purposes.
I do not weigh each load for any caliber, but with 30-06 (for the M1), I do weigh about 1/3 of the loads, and of course closely visually inspect all of them. Amazing how precise your sense, based on the visuals, become, once you've been doing a certain load for a while (when you're using same headstamp of brass, especially, and there's little variation in internal case volume).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:59 PM (QDnY+)
I use a Lyman T-Mag turret press. I currently use an electronic dispensing scale. So, each charge is weighed with less hand motion than throwing with a powder measure.
While I seat the bullet and crimp one round, the charge for the next is metered out. I use a powder-though die for filling the case with powder. Powder goes from scale to case, bullet immediately seated and then crimped. No loading block.
Not a fast as a progressive press, but much faster than a single stage.
I do not weigh each load for any caliber, but with 30-06 (for the M1), I do weigh about 1/3 of the loads, and of course closely visually inspect all of them. Amazing how precise your sense, based on the visuals, become, once you've been doing a certain load for a while (when you're using same headstamp of brass, especially, and there's little variation in internal case volume).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 08:59 PM (QDnY+)
I use a Lyman T-Mag turret press. I currently use an electronic dispensing scale. So, each charge is weighed with less hand motion than throwing with a powder measure.
While I seat the bullet and crimp one round, the charge for the next is metered out. I use a powder-though die for filling the case with powder. Powder goes from scale to case, bullet immediately seated and then crimped. No loading block.
Not a fast as a progressive press, but much faster than a single stage.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 18, 2018 09:30 PM (di1hb)
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Mitt Romney Joins the "We Gotta Do Something" Crowd on Gun Control - Red State
The Grand Old Party hates you.
The Grand Old Party hates you.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 18, 2018 09:30 PM (r9UYA)
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391 there is no accepted definition of an assault rifle. That's the trick behind it all.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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also, I don't hunt. If I had a bitching AR-15 or shotgun, it's for self-defense, and I plan to have the biggest magazine possible to keep shooting until one of us can't.
Don't fall into the you need just one shot to kill Bambi arguments.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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also, I don't hunt. If I had a bitching AR-15 or shotgun, it's for self-defense, and I plan to have the biggest magazine possible to keep shooting until one of us can't.
Don't fall into the you need just one shot to kill Bambi arguments.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:30 PM (V3U1L)
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Fully automatic, military-grade assault rifles like AR15's have no hunting applications. They're just used for killing people. Trust me, I'm a Senator.
Posted by: Bill Nelson, Senator and Former Astronaut at February 18, 2018 09:30 PM (398bZ)
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Well, if Myalim whatever is in favor of gun seizure, then I guess I should just throw in the towel.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 09:31 PM (9SkN+)
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391 there is no accepted definition of an assault rifle. That's the trick behind it all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 18, 2018 09:27 PM (V2Yro)
I like to say that a brick is an "assault weapon" if I throw it at your head.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 18, 2018 09:27 PM (V2Yro)
I like to say that a brick is an "assault weapon" if I throw it at your head.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:31 PM (sdi6R)
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Tell them that we'll start by taking registered Dems' and their voting blocs' e.g. blacks' weapons first. You can even point out stats to back it up, and point out all the Leftists' recent acts of terror like the softball shooter.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 18, 2018 09:31 PM (ewxPW)
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367 HP38 is among the most versatile and useful of powders, seems to me. I use/have used it in all my handgun loads (9mm, 38spl, 45ACP), and an 8-lb jug is stored away as my "strategic reserve", since it covers all my handgun needs (which will add 380ACP and 45 Colt, at some not too distant point).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:19 PM (QDnY+)
I "discovered" HP38 during the Great Obama Reloading Component Drought when all the pistol powders I previously used became unavailable, but a local store had HP38. Like you say, it works well in a bunch of non-magnum pistol calibers. I believe you're right, that HP38 are *exactly* the same powder, made in the same factory, from the same recipe. My older loading manuals sometimes show slightly different loads for the two powders, but the latest Hodgdon data shows the same loads.
I imagine 8 pounds of a fast powder like HP38 would last a really long time, but that depends on how much you reload.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:19 PM (QDnY+)
I "discovered" HP38 during the Great Obama Reloading Component Drought when all the pistol powders I previously used became unavailable, but a local store had HP38. Like you say, it works well in a bunch of non-magnum pistol calibers. I believe you're right, that HP38 are *exactly* the same powder, made in the same factory, from the same recipe. My older loading manuals sometimes show slightly different loads for the two powders, but the latest Hodgdon data shows the same loads.
I imagine 8 pounds of a fast powder like HP38 would last a really long time, but that depends on how much you reload.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 18, 2018 09:31 PM (DNH+H)
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Mitt. Yeah, I would have put money on that one.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 09:31 PM (9SkN+)
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401 Mitt Romney Joins the "We Gotta Do Something" Crowd on Gun Control - Red State
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so he doesn't want to be senator. good. and to think he was once severly conservative.
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so he doesn't want to be senator. good. and to think he was once severly conservative.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:31 PM (V3U1L)
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I'd think even admitting there's a difference between types of guns that are good and bad...
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Admitting there's a difference between types of guns that are good and bad - there are no good guns
there are no good guns the only difference is that you and I just choose to disagree.
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Admitting there's a difference between types of guns that are good and bad - there are no good guns
there are no good guns the only difference is that you and I just choose to disagree.
Posted by: gNewt at February 18, 2018 09:31 PM (Xrson)
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" Really seems like they are looking to stoke up some violence. "
This.
School shootings are good to push the narrative along, but they're really hoping for another Hodgkinson or Hinckley.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 18, 2018 09:26 PM (H0hPC)
What they fail to realize is that they saw what one lunatic did in vegas, now picture what 1000 of them with an additional 500 pulling security would do to one of their pow wows.
This.
School shootings are good to push the narrative along, but they're really hoping for another Hodgkinson or Hinckley.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 18, 2018 09:26 PM (H0hPC)
What they fail to realize is that they saw what one lunatic did in vegas, now picture what 1000 of them with an additional 500 pulling security would do to one of their pow wows.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 18, 2018 09:32 PM (aMlLZ)
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or not, maybe you're ready to get started in a hot civil war but I'm not.
I'd be on the opposite side of my mother, my children, and some of my best childhood friends.
not in a hurry to hurt people I love.
I'd be on the opposite side of my mother, my children, and some of my best childhood friends.
not in a hurry to hurt people I love.
Posted by: booknlass at February 18, 2018 09:32 PM (bjSMX)
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472 people murdered by blunt objects in 2016
374 people murdered by a rifle in 2016
( of course handguns lead the weapon race with over 7,000)
374 people murdered by a rifle in 2016
( of course handguns lead the weapon race with over 7,000)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2018 09:32 PM (2DOZq)
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Tom Servo @ 391 - There is an accepted definition of the term assault rifle. Intermediate caliber, mag fed, select fire (semi or auto), etc.
The problem is the made up political term assault weapon, which is pretty much a scary looking semi-auto rifle.
The problem is the made up political term assault weapon, which is pretty much a scary looking semi-auto rifle.
Posted by: Butch at February 18, 2018 09:33 PM (hXu8T)
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I like to say that a brick is an "assault weapon" if I throw it at your head.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:31 PM (sdi6R)
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Nah. It's a weapon of love.
I like to say that a brick is an "assault weapon" if I throw it at your head.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:31 PM (sdi6R)
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Nah. It's a weapon of love.
Posted by: Ignatz at February 18, 2018 09:33 PM (9SkN+)
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"hey wingnutz, why are you so paranoid, it's not like we want to take all your guns and round you all up and open the borders to let in our enemies"
next breath...
"we need to ban and confiscate all the guns, kill those who resist. Also, the whole world has, like, a first amendment right to come here, and oops there should be no self-defense from these new, replcaement americans"
next breath...
"we need to ban and confiscate all the guns, kill those who resist. Also, the whole world has, like, a first amendment right to come here, and oops there should be no self-defense from these new, replcaement americans"
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:33 PM (V3U1L)
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384: "Chicagdishu" needs to become the accepted term in the AoSHQ Style Guide.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:29 PM (sdi6R)
Seconded....and Mitt Romney has no penis.
https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:29 PM (sdi6R)
Seconded....and Mitt Romney has no penis.
https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 18, 2018 09:33 PM (EoRCO)
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403 Fully automatic, military-grade assault rifles like AR15's have no hunting applications. They're just used for killing people. Trust me, I'm a Senator.
Posted by: Bill Nelson, Senator and Former Astronaut at February 18, 2018 09:30 PM (398bZ)
You're a dullard and a disgrace is what you are.
Posted by: Bill Nelson, Senator and Former Astronaut at February 18, 2018 09:30 PM (398bZ)
You're a dullard and a disgrace is what you are.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 09:34 PM (NWiLs)
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Under Fire, that there's one of them areas of the sort I predicted where Mitt would be McCain-level problematic - "gun control". Actually, wondering about that, since UT is among the least hospitable environments for "gun control" in the country.
Then again, we've seen jaw-dropping inexplicable stupidity such as whathisname GOP senator from PA co-sponsoring some idiocy after Newtown (?). WTFF? PA? Where gun control is completely toxic for everyone, R and D, outside Philly and maybe a collar county or two?
Then again, we've seen jaw-dropping inexplicable stupidity such as whathisname GOP senator from PA co-sponsoring some idiocy after Newtown (?). WTFF? PA? Where gun control is completely toxic for everyone, R and D, outside Philly and maybe a collar county or two?
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:34 PM (QDnY+)
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I said a few nights ago, you can deal with socialists two ways when they take power and start killing everyone.
1. unarmed like in the holodomor
2. armed like in Chechneya.
not that the chechens are "good", they just fought back and made the russians give up.
1. unarmed like in the holodomor
2. armed like in Chechneya.
not that the chechens are "good", they just fought back and made the russians give up.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:35 PM (V3U1L)
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375 I use W231 for a bunch of handgun calibers. Also H110 and 2400 for magnum loads.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 09:21 PM (Sfs6o)
I've used both of those in .357, I think I prefer 2400 over H110.
Speaking of powders that are the same, I believe that H110 and Win296 are the exact same powder, just different names / packaging.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 09:21 PM (Sfs6o)
I've used both of those in .357, I think I prefer 2400 over H110.
Speaking of powders that are the same, I believe that H110 and Win296 are the exact same powder, just different names / packaging.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 18, 2018 09:35 PM (DNH+H)
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Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 18, 2018 09:25 PM (/zp4x)
Some guy had a long involved post on FB basically saying the kid wasn't mentally ill but that it was terrorism. And all AR-47's needed to be banned. i pointed out it was not terrorism despite the terror inflicted on those kids and there was no such thing as an AR-47.
This is the younger generation. they were made to be afraid of guns their whole lives and as typical Americans, they don't even understand that terrorism has a political motive. Better that we teach them it's okay to be any gender you wish to be.
Some guy had a long involved post on FB basically saying the kid wasn't mentally ill but that it was terrorism. And all AR-47's needed to be banned. i pointed out it was not terrorism despite the terror inflicted on those kids and there was no such thing as an AR-47.
This is the younger generation. they were made to be afraid of guns their whole lives and as typical Americans, they don't even understand that terrorism has a political motive. Better that we teach them it's okay to be any gender you wish to be.
Posted by: Bill R. at February 18, 2018 09:35 PM (IuYIh)
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I like to say that a brick is an "assault weapon" if I throw it at your head.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:31 PM (sdi6R)
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Nah. It's a weapon of love.
Posted by: Ignatz at February 18, 2018 09:33 PM (9SkN+)
LOL. I'd forgotten about Krazy Kat!
I like to say that a brick is an "assault weapon" if I throw it at your head.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:31 PM (sdi6R)
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Nah. It's a weapon of love.
Posted by: Ignatz at February 18, 2018 09:33 PM (9SkN+)
LOL. I'd forgotten about Krazy Kat!
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 09:35 PM (NWiLs)
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Jonah Goldberg just tweeted "Plato was right. We should leave all major policy questions to members of Mar-a-Lago."
He really has become an insufferable twit.
He really has become an insufferable twit.
Posted by: JAS at February 18, 2018 09:35 PM (7JbXq)
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Probably late on the thread but this is a skipable wall 'o text range report anyway.
I went back to .45 to carry after last week's range testing seem to point the finger more at...my finger. Specifically where on the trigger I was pulling, it was skewing my POI downward. When I was very careful to pull straight back, mid-way up the trigger, I was hitting point of aim.
So far, so good.
So I loaded up the Glock 21, took some extra boxes of .45 and brought along my XD 45 to do some testing.
And...I think I need to mod out my Glock 21. I have a Gen 2 and it's like a tractor, it just runs and runs. It feeds everything and will shoot super tight groups (by my offhand standards, YMMV). However, it is not natural in my hand. And when I start to fire the first round, my trigger finger has to stretch.
I THINK that is part of why I was hitting so low with my previous range work. My finger isn't on the 'right' part of the trigger to pull comfortably, so I'm pulling down and skewing point of impact.
The reason I think that is that the XD 45, which fits my hand more naturally, does not have that point of impact problem. It shoots pretty much were I aim.
But I love my Glock 21. And I don't own a holster for the XD 45 (apart from the tupperwear it came with, I prefer leather from Galco or Don Hume).
So, short term: I'm back carrying my G21, an inch or two low at 7 yards won't mean much for social occasions.
Medium term: I'm going to buy some gunleather for the XD45.
Longer term: I need to figure out what trigger mod or grip mod will make my Gen 2 Glock 21 comfortable to shoot.
Good day at the range, though. They are almost all good days, at the range.
I went back to .45 to carry after last week's range testing seem to point the finger more at...my finger. Specifically where on the trigger I was pulling, it was skewing my POI downward. When I was very careful to pull straight back, mid-way up the trigger, I was hitting point of aim.
So far, so good.
So I loaded up the Glock 21, took some extra boxes of .45 and brought along my XD 45 to do some testing.
And...I think I need to mod out my Glock 21. I have a Gen 2 and it's like a tractor, it just runs and runs. It feeds everything and will shoot super tight groups (by my offhand standards, YMMV). However, it is not natural in my hand. And when I start to fire the first round, my trigger finger has to stretch.
I THINK that is part of why I was hitting so low with my previous range work. My finger isn't on the 'right' part of the trigger to pull comfortably, so I'm pulling down and skewing point of impact.
The reason I think that is that the XD 45, which fits my hand more naturally, does not have that point of impact problem. It shoots pretty much were I aim.
But I love my Glock 21. And I don't own a holster for the XD 45 (apart from the tupperwear it came with, I prefer leather from Galco or Don Hume).
So, short term: I'm back carrying my G21, an inch or two low at 7 yards won't mean much for social occasions.
Medium term: I'm going to buy some gunleather for the XD45.
Longer term: I need to figure out what trigger mod or grip mod will make my Gen 2 Glock 21 comfortable to shoot.
Good day at the range, though. They are almost all good days, at the range.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:35 PM (xJa6I)
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Oh, and whoever it was, thanks for the Polish tip, just ordered one !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 18, 2018 09:35 PM (H0hPC)
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If they were ordered to use force to take away guns, they'd be breaking their oath. I would imagine some in the military would be okay with this, but Im betting a lot of them would not be.
What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (c056A)
I'm betting the vast majority would follow orders. The only chance for confiscations to NOT take place would be with the officer ranks to refuse those orders.
Of course, after several non-compliance addresses where the citizen as well as a few soldiers were killed, the general ranks might become divided on the nobility of their mission.
What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (c056A)
I'm betting the vast majority would follow orders. The only chance for confiscations to NOT take place would be with the officer ranks to refuse those orders.
Of course, after several non-compliance addresses where the citizen as well as a few soldiers were killed, the general ranks might become divided on the nobility of their mission.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2018 09:36 PM (z79tQ)
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I don't carry or own but if I did, would buying the biggest handgun caliber I can handle (i lift bra) and using a silencer be smart?
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:37 PM (V3U1L)
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Next gun project involves my CVA Optima Elite.
Originally got it over 10 yrs ago for muzzle loader deer hunting (50 cal). Ordered another barrel in 270 Win. Been happy with it. They offered several centerfire calibers. Son got one, too.
Out of production and clearancing remaining barrels (222 Rem, 24 in sporter and 26 in bull contours). Barrels are $55, so we both got one of each type.
What to do, what to do. Maybe I'll get a reamer and rechamber for 22 Nosler....
Originally got it over 10 yrs ago for muzzle loader deer hunting (50 cal). Ordered another barrel in 270 Win. Been happy with it. They offered several centerfire calibers. Son got one, too.
Out of production and clearancing remaining barrels (222 Rem, 24 in sporter and 26 in bull contours). Barrels are $55, so we both got one of each type.
What to do, what to do. Maybe I'll get a reamer and rechamber for 22 Nosler....
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 18, 2018 09:37 PM (di1hb)
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418 403 Fully automatic, military-grade assault rifles like AR15's have no hunting applications. They're just used for killing people. Trust me, I'm a Senator.
Posted by: Bill Nelson, Senator and Former Astronaut at February 18, 2018 09:30 PM (398bZ)
You're a dullard and a disgrace is what you are.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 09:34 PM (NWiLs)
And he's saying that like it's a bad thing.
Hell yeah my ARs are for killing people. I have other guns for hunting. So far, I haven't needed to kill anyone and they have remained docile and unblooded being INANIMATE OBJECTS that require me to empower them. And vice versa.
Posted by: Bill Nelson, Senator and Former Astronaut at February 18, 2018 09:30 PM (398bZ)
You're a dullard and a disgrace is what you are.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 09:34 PM (NWiLs)
And he's saying that like it's a bad thing.
Hell yeah my ARs are for killing people. I have other guns for hunting. So far, I haven't needed to kill anyone and they have remained docile and unblooded being INANIMATE OBJECTS that require me to empower them. And vice versa.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:37 PM (xJa6I)
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427 If they were ordered to use force to take away guns, they'd be breaking their oath. I would imagine some in the military would be okay with this, but Im betting a lot of them would not be.
What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (c056A)
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yeah, a lot would follow orders. Look at these pukes. There's a lot of killer cops out there and they don't just hit BLM types.
The question is, how long would that last?
What say you.
Posted by: Mike at February 18, 2018 08:13 PM (c056A)
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yeah, a lot would follow orders. Look at these pukes. There's a lot of killer cops out there and they don't just hit BLM types.
The question is, how long would that last?
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:38 PM (V3U1L)
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hot civil wars are not a real possibility any more - technology has made the days of citizen armies long since past. (just think of the possibilities that drones will have very soon)
but a national divorce, and a great sorting afterwards, is a very real possibility. maybe a probability.
but a national divorce, and a great sorting afterwards, is a very real possibility. maybe a probability.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 18, 2018 09:38 PM (V2Yro)
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Iron Mike - I use a Lee turret (with their new-ish "Auto Drum" powder dispenser, which is fantastically consistent), and visually confirm each throw, and weigh every 10th to 20th round (depending on what I'm loading).
Sebastian, beat me to it. Blunt objects have bested rifles in the FBI's national homicide stats since they've been compiled, I think. One of my favorite factoids I sometimes use with non-hostile, non-driven folks who muse about gun "issues". Always surprises them, reminds them that facts and perspective matter, and require some effort with every topic.
Sebastian, beat me to it. Blunt objects have bested rifles in the FBI's national homicide stats since they've been compiled, I think. One of my favorite factoids I sometimes use with non-hostile, non-driven folks who muse about gun "issues". Always surprises them, reminds them that facts and perspective matter, and require some effort with every topic.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:38 PM (QDnY+)
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Pfft. One of those dime-a-dozen, white trash side-ejectors.
Posted by: Ithaca Model 37 at February 18, 2018 09:39 PM (nBBdT)
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We may as well stop talking about God.
Could it be any more obvious that prayers and appeals to God are a complete waste of time?
Harden these targets. Perimeters, metal detectors, strict rules about who comes in and out, and specialized armed security. Not some retired local cop with sleep apnea, a gut like a bean-bag chair, a .38 he hasn't fired since Carter was president and a copy of the local paper under his arm. I'm talking about specially trained, sharp, armed security officers who take their profession very seriously.
Stop glamorizing and publicizing these pathetic, autistic, over medicated and terminally damaged losers who shoot up schools. Ideally, Cruz would have been interrogated thoroughly for a day or two to make sure that he acted alone, and then he would have been quickly put down with a lethal injection and anonymously buried. No reason that the rest of us ever know his name or see his photo.
Law enforcement makes mention of school or other mass shootings a priority. If the FBI needs another division that does nothing but this, so be it. If we need a new agency to deal with this phenomenon, so be it.
And if a dangerous and defective loser like Cruz comes to official attention, he is removed from the herd and detained for as long as necessary. His rights do not supersede my child's right to not be murdered.
And why was he allowed to buy a gun? By definition, if Cruz was allowed to legally buy a weapon then our gun laws are unsatisfactory. There have to be common sense additions or changes to our gun laws that protect my second amendment rights but prevent at least some psychos from shooting up schools.
Again, I think God has proven that he has no interest in protecting our children. Let's stop deluding ourselves. Let's cowboy up, toughen up, and protect them with practical, commonsense measures.
Could it be any more obvious that prayers and appeals to God are a complete waste of time?
Harden these targets. Perimeters, metal detectors, strict rules about who comes in and out, and specialized armed security. Not some retired local cop with sleep apnea, a gut like a bean-bag chair, a .38 he hasn't fired since Carter was president and a copy of the local paper under his arm. I'm talking about specially trained, sharp, armed security officers who take their profession very seriously.
Stop glamorizing and publicizing these pathetic, autistic, over medicated and terminally damaged losers who shoot up schools. Ideally, Cruz would have been interrogated thoroughly for a day or two to make sure that he acted alone, and then he would have been quickly put down with a lethal injection and anonymously buried. No reason that the rest of us ever know his name or see his photo.
Law enforcement makes mention of school or other mass shootings a priority. If the FBI needs another division that does nothing but this, so be it. If we need a new agency to deal with this phenomenon, so be it.
And if a dangerous and defective loser like Cruz comes to official attention, he is removed from the herd and detained for as long as necessary. His rights do not supersede my child's right to not be murdered.
And why was he allowed to buy a gun? By definition, if Cruz was allowed to legally buy a weapon then our gun laws are unsatisfactory. There have to be common sense additions or changes to our gun laws that protect my second amendment rights but prevent at least some psychos from shooting up schools.
Again, I think God has proven that he has no interest in protecting our children. Let's stop deluding ourselves. Let's cowboy up, toughen up, and protect them with practical, commonsense measures.
Posted by: Major1 at February 18, 2018 09:39 PM (UjIiY)
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428 I don't carry or own but if I did, would buying the biggest handgun caliber I can handle (i lift bra) and using a silencer be smart?
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:37 PM (V3U1L)
I'd visit a range and rent a few in different calibers and find out what 'works' for you.
I'm a large mammal and I like 10mm on the top end. If you don't mind the weight and blast/recoil, .357 magnum is also a big boy gun.
.45 ACP is good even in FMJ rounds and ends most questions.
But it will come down to taste and what pistol feels 'right' to you. What you can shoot accurately counts for a lot more than size. .32 ACP can be lethal, hell even .22 LR kills folks.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:37 PM (V3U1L)
I'd visit a range and rent a few in different calibers and find out what 'works' for you.
I'm a large mammal and I like 10mm on the top end. If you don't mind the weight and blast/recoil, .357 magnum is also a big boy gun.
.45 ACP is good even in FMJ rounds and ends most questions.
But it will come down to taste and what pistol feels 'right' to you. What you can shoot accurately counts for a lot more than size. .32 ACP can be lethal, hell even .22 LR kills folks.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:40 PM (xJa6I)
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Posted by: Tom Servo at February 18, 2018 09:38 PM (V2Yro)
I have a five year transition plan i'm willing to share with the powers to be.
I have a five year transition plan i'm willing to share with the powers to be.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2018 09:41 PM (2DOZq)
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424 Jonah Goldberg just tweeted "Plato was right. We should leave all major policy questions to members of Mar-a-Lago."
Posted by: JAS at February 18, 2018 09:35 PM (7JbXq)
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Good grief. What is he, a 13 yr old?
Posted by: JAS at February 18, 2018 09:35 PM (7JbXq)
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Good grief. What is he, a 13 yr old?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 18, 2018 09:41 PM (0jtPF)
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420. Umm...Chechnya is russia. Their current leader is a one time rebel who was reconciled. Chechens are Russians. Always have been. Always will be.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 09:41 PM (fA1SL)
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428 I don't carry or own but if I did, would buying the biggest handgun caliber I can handle (i lift bra) and using a silencer be smart?
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:37 PM (V3U1L)
A) It's a suppressor.
B) Carrying a suppressed pistol would be a bitch. It would be slower to draw, more awkward to handle, and give the bad guy more to grab onto in close quarters.
C) It's not about the biggest round you can handle. I can shoot some pretty large-bore handguns and wouldn't ever consider carrying them. It's about placing rounds on target, as quickly and as accurately as possible to end the threat.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:37 PM (V3U1L)
A) It's a suppressor.
B) Carrying a suppressed pistol would be a bitch. It would be slower to draw, more awkward to handle, and give the bad guy more to grab onto in close quarters.
C) It's not about the biggest round you can handle. I can shoot some pretty large-bore handguns and wouldn't ever consider carrying them. It's about placing rounds on target, as quickly and as accurately as possible to end the threat.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 09:41 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 18, 2018 09:41 PM (vwf8z)
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The problem is the made up political term assault weapon, which is pretty much a scary looking semi-auto rifle.
Posted by: Butch
Problem with correcting their use of the term is that states run by dipshits like CA have actually codified the term 'assault weapon' to mean anything they don't like.
It's going to get harder to use that mis-used term as an ice-hook to shut their shit down.
Just FYI.
Posted by: Butch
Problem with correcting their use of the term is that states run by dipshits like CA have actually codified the term 'assault weapon' to mean anything they don't like.
It's going to get harder to use that mis-used term as an ice-hook to shut their shit down.
Just FYI.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 18, 2018 09:41 PM (KXVP7)
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Haven't watched it in years, but "Bayim" doesn't sound like it would be the gorgeous blonde that plays the ditzy airheaded role and that the show has to try to make less attractive a-la Ethel Murtz so that she doesn't outshine the main blonde.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 18, 2018 09:41 PM (ks6bw)
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Jonah Goldberg just tweeted "Plato was right. We should leave all major policy questions to members of Mar-a-Lago."
He really has become an insufferable twit.
Posted by: JAS at February 18, 2018 09:35 PM (7JbXq)
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He's just pissed because he can't afford to join Mar-a-Lago. Although they are a club who would let him in if he had the coin.
He really has become an insufferable twit.
Posted by: JAS at February 18, 2018 09:35 PM (7JbXq)
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He's just pissed because he can't afford to join Mar-a-Lago. Although they are a club who would let him in if he had the coin.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 18, 2018 09:41 PM (/zp4x)
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Again, I think God has proven that he has no interest in protecting our children. Let's stop deluding ourselves. Let's cowboy up, toughen up, and protect them with practical, commonsense measures.
Posted by: Major1 at February 18, 2018 09:39 PM (UjIiY)
So you feel empowered to speak for God?
Good to know.
Personally, I'm in favor of arming teachers with the stones to carry.
Posted by: Major1 at February 18, 2018 09:39 PM (UjIiY)
So you feel empowered to speak for God?
Good to know.
Personally, I'm in favor of arming teachers with the stones to carry.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:42 PM (xJa6I)
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Re: safety of reloading components, smokeless powder will burn rather than explode if it's in it's original packaging and not closely confined. Energy wise, smokeless powder has roughly the same energy as an equivalent weight of gasoline, but is much harder to ignite than gasoline, and doesn't produce explosive vapor like gasoline does. Everyone has a gallon of two of gasoline out in the garage for the mower and never think twice about any potential danger.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 18, 2018 09:42 PM (DNH+H)
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Mark, yep, get a good holster for that XD. And if you think you could like the XD's trigger even more, look into the Powder River conversion kits.
I don't mod any of my guns, just the way I roll, but I've tried some Powder River'd XDs at the gun matches, afterwards, and they're incredibly smooth.
I don't mod any of my guns, just the way I roll, but I've tried some Powder River'd XDs at the gun matches, afterwards, and they're incredibly smooth.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:42 PM (QDnY+)
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Again, I think God has proven that he has no interest in protecting our children. Let's stop deluding ourselves. Let's cowboy up, toughen up, and protect them with practical, commonsense measures.
Posted by: Major1 a
Amigo, even if you're being genuine here, this is not the way to make common cause.
You don't like God because of your own upbringing isn't the fault of others. Curb it.
Posted by: Major1 a
Amigo, even if you're being genuine here, this is not the way to make common cause.
You don't like God because of your own upbringing isn't the fault of others. Curb it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 18, 2018 09:43 PM (KXVP7)
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yeah, a lot would follow orders. Look at these pukes. There's a lot of killer cops out there and they don't just hit BLM types.
The question is, how long would that last?
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:38 PM (V3U1L)
Seeing how civil wars go, I would say just long enough to realize they should be home protecting their families. Never underestimate the levels people would go to when fighting for their homeland. You know damn well that as soon as one cop gets identified as killing civilians his family isn't worth the dirt they stand on. Its an ugly truth played out since humans came down from the trees.
The question is, how long would that last?
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:38 PM (V3U1L)
Seeing how civil wars go, I would say just long enough to realize they should be home protecting their families. Never underestimate the levels people would go to when fighting for their homeland. You know damn well that as soon as one cop gets identified as killing civilians his family isn't worth the dirt they stand on. Its an ugly truth played out since humans came down from the trees.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 18, 2018 09:43 PM (aMlLZ)
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412 or not, maybe you're ready to get started in a hot civil war but I'm not.
I'd be on the opposite side of my mother, my children, and some of my best childhood friends.
not in a hurry to hurt people I love.
Posted by: booknlass at February 18, 2018 09:32 PM (bjSMX)
I hear you.
The first American Civil War was an anomaly, with organized armies lining up on battlefields.
Practically every other civil war in history has involved neighbors killing neighbors.
We talk about "blue cities" and "red rural areas", but the suburbs are deep purple and that's where I see it getting truly ugly.
I'd be on the opposite side of my mother, my children, and some of my best childhood friends.
not in a hurry to hurt people I love.
Posted by: booknlass at February 18, 2018 09:32 PM (bjSMX)
I hear you.
The first American Civil War was an anomaly, with organized armies lining up on battlefields.
Practically every other civil war in history has involved neighbors killing neighbors.
We talk about "blue cities" and "red rural areas", but the suburbs are deep purple and that's where I see it getting truly ugly.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:44 PM (sdi6R)
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439 420. Umm...Chechnya is russia. Their current leader is a one time rebel who was reconciled. Chechens are Russians. Always have been. Always will be.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 09:41 PM (fA1SL)
But mostly Muslim right?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 09:41 PM (fA1SL)
But mostly Muslim right?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 18, 2018 09:44 PM (2DOZq)
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I'm late to the party, but here's a site you can direct all your gun-grabber family and acquaintances to: http://www.assaultweaponwatch.com/
Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 18, 2018 09:44 PM (yzxic)
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common sense > confiscation
Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 18, 2018 09:44 PM (Tyii7)
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About 50 people are killed by subways every year in NYC. It's time we put a stop to the cowardly mass transit lobby and ban trains.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 18, 2018 09:44 PM (BsGS1)
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432 hot civil wars are not a real possibility any more - technology has made the days of citizen armies long since past. (just think of the possibilities that drones will have very soon)
but a national divorce, and a great sorting afterwards, is a very real possibility. maybe a probability.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 18, 2018 09:38 PM (V2Yro)
A U.S. Civil War would not resemble a WW 2 scenario. Think Lebanon, only more wide spread and with even more casualties.
I'm in favor of avoiding such a scenario, if possible.
but a national divorce, and a great sorting afterwards, is a very real possibility. maybe a probability.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 18, 2018 09:38 PM (V2Yro)
A U.S. Civil War would not resemble a WW 2 scenario. Think Lebanon, only more wide spread and with even more casualties.
I'm in favor of avoiding such a scenario, if possible.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:44 PM (xJa6I)
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It's about placing rounds on target, as quickly and as accurately as possible to end the threat.
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Yep. I'd rather hit someone with a .22 over missing them with a .50.
I recently moved from +p rounds to plain old vanilla because the +p made me much more inconsistent with my social pistol.
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Yep. I'd rather hit someone with a .22 over missing them with a .50.
I recently moved from +p rounds to plain old vanilla because the +p made me much more inconsistent with my social pistol.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 18, 2018 09:45 PM (ks6bw)
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421 375 I use W231 for a bunch of handgun calibers. Also H110 and 2400 for magnum loads.
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 09:21 PM (Sfs6o)
I've used both of those in .357, I think I prefer 2400 over H110.
Speaking of powders that are the same, I believe that H110 and Win296 are the exact same powder, just different names / packaging.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 18, 2018 09:35 PM (DNH+H)
I use 2400 in 357 and 44 Mag, H110/W296 (same powder) in 44 Mag and 45 Colt Ruger loads
Posted by: Weasel at February 18, 2018 09:21 PM (Sfs6o)
I've used both of those in .357, I think I prefer 2400 over H110.
Speaking of powders that are the same, I believe that H110 and Win296 are the exact same powder, just different names / packaging.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 18, 2018 09:35 PM (DNH+H)
I use 2400 in 357 and 44 Mag, H110/W296 (same powder) in 44 Mag and 45 Colt Ruger loads
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 18, 2018 09:46 PM (di1hb)
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Iowa Bob with the good info on powder. It would definitely be an accelerant, in a fire, but doesn't explode. I have a wooden "powder magazine" built off of plans found on the web. Simple, pine 2X4s, loose-fitting top, 2 inches of wood thickness all around (retards heating of contents inside the box). I think it's per national firefighting institute standards. Idea is that it would prevent burning of powder in a fire that gets contained/put out - obviously in a total burn-out the powder would end up blazing away.
Built a half-size version of the big box, with scraps, for primers. Have not seen any studies/experiments of what happens to primers, specifically, in a fire scenario.
Built a half-size version of the big box, with scraps, for primers. Have not seen any studies/experiments of what happens to primers, specifically, in a fire scenario.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:46 PM (QDnY+)
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451. Yep. About 10 to 15 percent of all Russians are at least nominally Muslim.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 09:46 PM (fA1SL)
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"Yep. I'd rather hit someone with a .22 over missing them with a .50."
Which is why the Lord in his infinite wisdom created the .357 carbine.
Which is why the Lord in his infinite wisdom created the .357 carbine.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 18, 2018 09:46 PM (BsGS1)
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There have to be common sense additions or changes to our gun laws that protect my second amendment rights but prevent at least some psychos from shooting up schools.
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Common sense laws, yes, We need a law making it against the law for psychos to shoot up in schools.
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Common sense laws, yes, We need a law making it against the law for psychos to shoot up in schools.
Posted by: gNewt at February 18, 2018 09:46 PM (Xrson)
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@ rhomboid
Thanks again for the advice, man.
I'm ok with the stock XD trigger. I don't do IDPA or 3 gun matches anymore, so I just want something accurate enough and reliable. The XDs have treated me very well so far.
Thanks again for the advice, man.
I'm ok with the stock XD trigger. I don't do IDPA or 3 gun matches anymore, so I just want something accurate enough and reliable. The XDs have treated me very well so far.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:47 PM (xJa6I)
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460 "Yep. I'd rather hit someone with a .22 over missing them with a .50."
Which is why the Lord in his infinite wisdom created the .357 carbine.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 18, 2018 09:46 PM (BsGS1)
A bit awkward for concealed carry though.
Which is why the Lord in his infinite wisdom created the .357 carbine.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 18, 2018 09:46 PM (BsGS1)
A bit awkward for concealed carry though.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 09:47 PM (NWiLs)
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#445
Mark Edwards, I don't feel empowered to speak for God.
Don't believe in him.
But even if I did (and I don't) I'd be pretty comfortable stating that he isn't going to protect our children.
For the believers, maybe this is one of those "God helps those who help themselves" situations.
Mark Edwards, I don't feel empowered to speak for God.
Don't believe in him.
But even if I did (and I don't) I'd be pretty comfortable stating that he isn't going to protect our children.
For the believers, maybe this is one of those "God helps those who help themselves" situations.
Posted by: Major1 at February 18, 2018 09:48 PM (UjIiY)
Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 18, 2018 09:48 PM (BsGS1)
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> If you know the weight of the bullet and its muzzle velocity then it's just a math problem to compute trajectory. When you rule out ammunition variables it narrows the potential causes of bad shots. When I shoot one of my match rifles and the impact isn't where I want it, I'm pretty sure I did something dumb behind the gun, or mis-read the wind.
Posted by: Weasel
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More than wind, I've heard. Temperature, pressure, humidity, altitude, slope distance and elevation difference to target, coreolis effects (N/S vs E/W), curvature and refraction indices.
Posted by: Weasel
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More than wind, I've heard. Temperature, pressure, humidity, altitude, slope distance and elevation difference to target, coreolis effects (N/S vs E/W), curvature and refraction indices.
Posted by: Pogomip at February 18, 2018 09:48 PM (yT9jk)
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465 "A bit awkward for concealed carry though."
Long coat and a limp.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 18, 2018 09:48 PM (BsGS1)
Very inconspicuous.
Long coat and a limp.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 18, 2018 09:48 PM (BsGS1)
Very inconspicuous.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 09:49 PM (NWiLs)
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"Tell them that we'll start by taking registered
Dems' and their voting blocs' e.g. blacks' weapons first.
Posted by: andycanuck:"
Black are exempt from lefts criticisms of Americans. They are allowed to have religion, large cars, eat what they want, watch dumb shit on TV, not celebrate homosexuality, treat women as sex objects and even not like poetry. Guns are no different.
I may start serf-identifying as black.
Dems' and their voting blocs' e.g. blacks' weapons first.
Posted by: andycanuck:"
Black are exempt from lefts criticisms of Americans. They are allowed to have religion, large cars, eat what they want, watch dumb shit on TV, not celebrate homosexuality, treat women as sex objects and even not like poetry. Guns are no different.
I may start serf-identifying as black.
Posted by: Ripley at February 18, 2018 09:49 PM (NbRJx)
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Right, If that coach who sacrificed his life for the children had been wearing a pistol on his belt this POS would be a different story.
Posted by: gNewt at February 18, 2018 09:12 PM (Xrson)
One of the JROTC kids at the school actually said that, but naturally he's getting far less attention than the ones screaming about the NRA.
Right, If that coach who sacrificed his life for the children had been wearing a pistol on his belt this POS would be a different story.
Posted by: gNewt at February 18, 2018 09:12 PM (Xrson)
One of the JROTC kids at the school actually said that, but naturally he's getting far less attention than the ones screaming about the NRA.
Posted by: stace at February 18, 2018 09:49 PM (6HFDU)
470
Jonah Goldberg just tweeted "Plato was right. We should leave all major policy questions to members of Mar-a-Lago."
I remember Mama
Jonah Goldberg just tweeted "Plato was right. We should leave all major policy questions to members of Mar-a-Lago."
I remember Mama
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 09:49 PM (IqV8l)
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"A bit awkward for concealed carry though."
Long coat and a limp.
Posted by: xnycpeasant
Just hope Axel Foley isn't in the club.
Long coat and a limp.
Posted by: xnycpeasant
Just hope Axel Foley isn't in the club.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 18, 2018 09:49 PM (KXVP7)
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The first American Civil War was an anomaly, with organized armies lining up on battlefields.
Practically every other civil war in history has involved neighbors killing neighbors.
We talk about "blue cities" and "red rural areas", but the suburbs are deep purple and that's where I see it getting truly ugly.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:44 PM (sdi6R)
Exactly. I always said the next civil war here is going to have elements of the American revolution, the American civil war, and the French revolution. It would be really nasty.
Practically every other civil war in history has involved neighbors killing neighbors.
We talk about "blue cities" and "red rural areas", but the suburbs are deep purple and that's where I see it getting truly ugly.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:44 PM (sdi6R)
Exactly. I always said the next civil war here is going to have elements of the American revolution, the American civil war, and the French revolution. It would be really nasty.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 18, 2018 09:49 PM (aMlLZ)
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652,000 abortions in 2014 by google search... That's a florida high school massacre every 4 minutes. They cant even run/hide/fight
But we gotta have those
But we gotta have those
Posted by: Mst3k at February 18, 2018 09:50 PM (KloN7)
Posted by: Ha at February 18, 2018 09:50 PM (MAstk)
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Chechens are mostly ...... nuts. Interesting, tough, different.
Only nationality (among the zillion) in the old USSR that really put any fear into the "internal security organs" (we're talking 60s-80s). Had a real mafia. Tough SOBs.
And Chechens have constituted the largest, most capable cadre of jihadi enemies since 9/11. Many of course had real military experience, and real war experience - and they brought/bring this to the otherwise often bumbling ranks in Iraq, etc. Leaders, trainers of trainers, specialists. The baddest of the bad guys since 9/11.
Only nationality (among the zillion) in the old USSR that really put any fear into the "internal security organs" (we're talking 60s-80s). Had a real mafia. Tough SOBs.
And Chechens have constituted the largest, most capable cadre of jihadi enemies since 9/11. Many of course had real military experience, and real war experience - and they brought/bring this to the otherwise often bumbling ranks in Iraq, etc. Leaders, trainers of trainers, specialists. The baddest of the bad guys since 9/11.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:50 PM (QDnY+)
476
471 "A bit awkward for concealed carry though."
Long coat and a limp.
Posted by: xnycpeasant
Just hope Axel Foley isn't in the club.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 18, 2018 09:49 PM (KXVP7)
Cuz he's not going to fall for some banana in a tailpipe.
Long coat and a limp.
Posted by: xnycpeasant
Just hope Axel Foley isn't in the club.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 18, 2018 09:49 PM (KXVP7)
Cuz he's not going to fall for some banana in a tailpipe.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:50 PM (xJa6I)
477
I hear you.
The first American Civil War was an anomaly, with organized armies lining up on battlefields.
Practically every other civil war in history has involved neighbors killing neighbors.
We talk about "blue cities" and "red rural areas", but the suburbs are deep purple and that's where I see it getting truly ugly.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:44 PM (sdi6R)
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Yep. CW1 had clearly defined North/South lines. CW2 would be all local, which is pretty freaking scary to think about.
The first American Civil War was an anomaly, with organized armies lining up on battlefields.
Practically every other civil war in history has involved neighbors killing neighbors.
We talk about "blue cities" and "red rural areas", but the suburbs are deep purple and that's where I see it getting truly ugly.
Posted by: rickl at February 18, 2018 09:44 PM (sdi6R)
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Yep. CW1 had clearly defined North/South lines. CW2 would be all local, which is pretty freaking scary to think about.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 18, 2018 09:50 PM (/zp4x)
478
Gun Thread.
Ever hear people talk about shooting slugs through shotguns with some sort of choke? This guy shows a slug being pushed by hand through various choke tubes. This puts the discussion in physical and observable terms. The slug falls (rattles) through a cylinder bore, and goes through an Improved Cylinder choke using finger pressure. Even with more choke, the slugh can still be made to pass through, using hand pressure. It's worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjng0wUHvjQ
FAQ #3 Can I shoot a slug through a full choke?
I had never paid attention to the term "Cut shells" before (I think I'd never heard it). It looks like these things are the closest thing to HE shells.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpQDaFF1Ghk
Cut Shells + Sheet rock test
There's always talk about home defense, and putting projectiles through 3 or 4 walls. This video clears up most, or at least some of the discussion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C29mEJFFIvo
Home Defense: Interior wall penetration test with 12 gauge shotgun
Apparently, rifled barrels do not improve slug accuracy much, compared to Improved Cylinder barrels. But I've read some ammo manufacturers who apparently make slugs specifically for rifled barrels (these are not tested here). Rifled barrels do A LOT for sabot rounds (usually a .44 JHP in a plastic case that comes off after barrel exit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p_0LIx2LHI
Shotgun Slugs: Smoothbore vs. Rifled Barrel
Note: there are other videos about rifled barrels and buckshot (larger pattern, but no center hits) and birdshot (will cover an 18"x30" target, from above the eyes to below the groin at 5 yards; just the thing for stopping someone just long enough to whack them with a slug)
Ever hear people talk about shooting slugs through shotguns with some sort of choke? This guy shows a slug being pushed by hand through various choke tubes. This puts the discussion in physical and observable terms. The slug falls (rattles) through a cylinder bore, and goes through an Improved Cylinder choke using finger pressure. Even with more choke, the slugh can still be made to pass through, using hand pressure. It's worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjng0wUHvjQ
FAQ #3 Can I shoot a slug through a full choke?
I had never paid attention to the term "Cut shells" before (I think I'd never heard it). It looks like these things are the closest thing to HE shells.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpQDaFF1Ghk
Cut Shells + Sheet rock test
There's always talk about home defense, and putting projectiles through 3 or 4 walls. This video clears up most, or at least some of the discussion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C29mEJFFIvo
Home Defense: Interior wall penetration test with 12 gauge shotgun
Apparently, rifled barrels do not improve slug accuracy much, compared to Improved Cylinder barrels. But I've read some ammo manufacturers who apparently make slugs specifically for rifled barrels (these are not tested here). Rifled barrels do A LOT for sabot rounds (usually a .44 JHP in a plastic case that comes off after barrel exit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p_0LIx2LHI
Shotgun Slugs: Smoothbore vs. Rifled Barrel
Note: there are other videos about rifled barrels and buckshot (larger pattern, but no center hits) and birdshot (will cover an 18"x30" target, from above the eyes to below the groin at 5 yards; just the thing for stopping someone just long enough to whack them with a slug)
Posted by: Arbalest at February 18, 2018 09:51 PM (FlRtG)
479
On fb i saw someone post pictures of an anti gun rally in downtown chicago... Irony is truly lost on these people.
How did that work for them when guns were banned?
How did that work for them when guns were banned?
Posted by: Mst3k at February 18, 2018 09:51 PM (KloN7)
480
Yep. CW1 had clearly defined North/South lines. CW2 would be all local, which is pretty freaking scary to think about.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 18, 2018 09:50 PM (/zp4x)
CW2 will be more like the Revolutionary war...
Which was really the first Civil War... just successful...
Posted by: Calm Mentor at February 18, 2018 09:50 PM (/zp4x)
CW2 will be more like the Revolutionary war...
Which was really the first Civil War... just successful...
Posted by: Don Quixote at February 18, 2018 09:51 PM (NgKpN)
481
472. Beirut meets Bosnia, played out across a continent with more firearms and know how than most armies.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 09:51 PM (fA1SL)
482
I think there is a definition for Assault Rifle, but I don't think there is one for Assault Weapon.
"Assault rifle, military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and that has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire. Because they are light and portable yet still able to deliver a high volume of fire with reasonable accuracy at modern combat ranges of 1,000-1,600 feet (300-500 metres), assault rifles have replaced the high-powered bolt-action and semiautomatic rifles of the World War II era as the standard infantry weapon of modern armies."
http://bit.ly/2EFqa8w
"Assault rifle, military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and that has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire. Because they are light and portable yet still able to deliver a high volume of fire with reasonable accuracy at modern combat ranges of 1,000-1,600 feet (300-500 metres), assault rifles have replaced the high-powered bolt-action and semiautomatic rifles of the World War II era as the standard infantry weapon of modern armies."
http://bit.ly/2EFqa8w
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 18, 2018 09:52 PM (yQpMk)
483
@ Arbalest
Good video round up, thanks. I've seen a couple of those before.
If you match up a rifled slug barrel with the right kind of slugs, you can get really, really good accuracy.
But Improved Cylinder is a good enough compromise for most shotgun usages.
I'm not a fan of birdshot.
Good video round up, thanks. I've seen a couple of those before.
If you match up a rifled slug barrel with the right kind of slugs, you can get really, really good accuracy.
But Improved Cylinder is a good enough compromise for most shotgun usages.
I'm not a fan of birdshot.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:53 PM (xJa6I)
484
We talk about "blue cities" and "red rural areas", but the suburbs are deep purple and that's where I see it getting truly ugly.
Posted by: rickl
Gunsmoke on the water
We talk about "blue cities" and "red rural areas", but the suburbs are deep purple and that's where I see it getting truly ugly.
Posted by: rickl
Gunsmoke on the water
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 09:54 PM (IqV8l)
485
"A bit awkward for concealed carry though."
Long coat and a limp.
Posted by: xnycpeasant
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*oops, they're on to me*
Long coat and a limp.
Posted by: xnycpeasant
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*oops, they're on to me*
Posted by: Chester Goode at February 18, 2018 09:55 PM (5OO3x)
486
blacks' weapons first. You can even point out stats to back it up
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It would never happen, of course, but that's a quick way of immediately cutting gun crime in half or more.
Treat HIV/AIDS carriers like they actually have a deadly communicable disease and not some sort of social awareness empowerment whatever and end that sh*t in a decade or two, also.
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It would never happen, of course, but that's a quick way of immediately cutting gun crime in half or more.
Treat HIV/AIDS carriers like they actually have a deadly communicable disease and not some sort of social awareness empowerment whatever and end that sh*t in a decade or two, also.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Take a Wakanda Wild Side With the Black Pander at February 18, 2018 09:55 PM (ks6bw)
487
439 420. Umm...Chechnya is russia. Their current leader is a one time rebel who was reconciled. Chechens are Russians. Always have been. Always will be.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
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I know what you're saying...but wasn't the Ukraine also this?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
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I know what you're saying...but wasn't the Ukraine also this?
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:55 PM (V3U1L)
488
-metal detectors at schools.
-doors locked once school starts.
-fire the FBI agent who dropped the ball on tips to finger that little dipshit
-If the media can disguise the ethnicity of 'protected classes" in reporting crimes, they can make an effort to hide the identity of these little twerps who shoot their betters and not glorify them.
-doors locked once school starts.
-fire the FBI agent who dropped the ball on tips to finger that little dipshit
-If the media can disguise the ethnicity of 'protected classes" in reporting crimes, they can make an effort to hide the identity of these little twerps who shoot their betters and not glorify them.
Posted by: vivi at February 18, 2018 09:56 PM (11H2y)
489
I've never used Silhouet powder, which is rather new by my standards. I do fine with old stuff like Bullseye, Unique, Red Dot, etc. Also, I load at moderate to light power levels 95 percent of the time, so I seldom need a high pressure powder.
I tend to reload in stages: decap, inspect the case, resize and prime with a hand primer. The nice thing is these are mechanical actions and can be done while istening to a baseball game. When it comes to the powder charge and bullet seating, I want it quiet with no distractions. The process isn't fast but it works for me.
I tend to reload in stages: decap, inspect the case, resize and prime with a hand primer. The nice thing is these are mechanical actions and can be done while istening to a baseball game. When it comes to the powder charge and bullet seating, I want it quiet with no distractions. The process isn't fast but it works for me.
Posted by: JTB at February 18, 2018 09:56 PM (V+03K)
490
Gunsmoke on the water
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 09:54 PM (IqV8l)
485 "A bit awkward for concealed carry though."
Long coat and a limp.
Posted by: xnycpeasant
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*oops, they're on to me*
Posted by: Chester Goode
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What's the likelihood of that sequence?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 18, 2018 09:54 PM (IqV8l)
485 "A bit awkward for concealed carry though."
Long coat and a limp.
Posted by: xnycpeasant
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*oops, they're on to me*
Posted by: Chester Goode
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What's the likelihood of that sequence?
Posted by: Chester Goode at February 18, 2018 09:56 PM (5OO3x)
491
Modern day surveillance is a totalitarian's wet dream.
Posted by: davidt at February 18, 2018 09:56 PM (djCea)
492
I think Mencken would have supported gun control for the peasants!
Posted by: SJW Hrothgar at February 18, 2018 09:03 PM (gwPgz)
You'll note the blog mast quote doesn't say hoist the black flag and begin shooting.
the peasants get knives.
Posted by: SJW Hrothgar at February 18, 2018 09:03 PM (gwPgz)
You'll note the blog mast quote doesn't say hoist the black flag and begin shooting.
the peasants get knives.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2018 09:57 PM (z79tQ)
493
CW2 would be all local, which is pretty freaking scary to think about.
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I think it'd be more like city versus suburb versus rural.
most cities are reliably blue, certainly not because of the concentration of blue welfare recipients.
I was exposed to some internet CW crap once and the thinking goes, the cities are going to starve in a wave of insane violence.
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I think it'd be more like city versus suburb versus rural.
most cities are reliably blue, certainly not because of the concentration of blue welfare recipients.
I was exposed to some internet CW crap once and the thinking goes, the cities are going to starve in a wave of insane violence.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:57 PM (V3U1L)
494
487. Parts of Ukraine, the eastern parts, are a russo-uke mix. The locals, esp in Donetsk and Lugansk, are heavy-duty Uke and russki mixes. But the farther west ya get in Ukraine, the more 'not-russian' they become. It's a border-zone, just as the name implies.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 18, 2018 09:58 PM (fA1SL)
495
491 Modern day surveillance is a totalitarian's wet dream.
Posted by: davidt at February 18, 2018 09:56 PM (djCea)
No kidding. When I first saw 'The Prisioner' TV show, I thought it was crazy, impossible science fiction.
Turns out it was prophetic allegory.
Posted by: davidt at February 18, 2018 09:56 PM (djCea)
No kidding. When I first saw 'The Prisioner' TV show, I thought it was crazy, impossible science fiction.
Turns out it was prophetic allegory.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:58 PM (xJa6I)
496
yeah, the state has its surveillance and guys with guns. I think the point is how to use it against them?
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 09:58 PM (V3U1L)
497
high-powered bolt-action and semiautomatic rifles of the World War II era as the standard infantry weapon of modern armies."
http://bit.ly/2EFqa8w
Posted by: Grump928(C)
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That old Garand sitting out in the barn is just an old antique, not an assault in it.
http://bit.ly/2EFqa8w
Posted by: Grump928(C)
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That old Garand sitting out in the barn is just an old antique, not an assault in it.
Posted by: gNewt at February 18, 2018 09:58 PM (Xrson)
498
492 I think Mencken would have supported gun control for the peasants!
Posted by: SJW Hrothgar at February 18, 2018 09:03 PM (gwPgz)
You'll note the blog mast quote doesn't say hoist the black flag and begin shooting.
the peasants get knives.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2018 09:57 PM (z79tQ)
If you're within 15 feet and have the guts, a knife can work.
Posted by: SJW Hrothgar at February 18, 2018 09:03 PM (gwPgz)
You'll note the blog mast quote doesn't say hoist the black flag and begin shooting.
the peasants get knives.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2018 09:57 PM (z79tQ)
If you're within 15 feet and have the guts, a knife can work.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 09:59 PM (xJa6I)
499
457 I use 2400 in 357 and 44 Mag, H110/W296 (same powder) in 44 Mag and 45 Colt Ruger loads
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 18, 2018 09:46 PM (di1hb)
I've tried H110 in 45 Colt for a Blackhawk, and never found a load I liked. I had problems with inconsistent ignition and even one squib load that left the bullet stuck in the barrel (not fun). This was with recommended loads for the Blackhawk, which are hotter than recommended for old Colts, including magnum primers.
I think the problem may be the large case size, and low loading density. I got more consistent results if I tipped the pistol up to get the powder near the primer before each shot. Not sure what the problem is, I get good results with H110 in 357 and I know it's widely used in 44 mag.
Since that exercise I've been using HP38 in the 45 Colt, but I'd like to find a slower powder that works well.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 18, 2018 09:46 PM (di1hb)
I've tried H110 in 45 Colt for a Blackhawk, and never found a load I liked. I had problems with inconsistent ignition and even one squib load that left the bullet stuck in the barrel (not fun). This was with recommended loads for the Blackhawk, which are hotter than recommended for old Colts, including magnum primers.
I think the problem may be the large case size, and low loading density. I got more consistent results if I tipped the pistol up to get the powder near the primer before each shot. Not sure what the problem is, I get good results with H110 in 357 and I know it's widely used in 44 mag.
Since that exercise I've been using HP38 in the 45 Colt, but I'd like to find a slower powder that works well.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 18, 2018 10:00 PM (DNH+H)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 18, 2018 10:00 PM (xJa6I)
501
The ONT, she's up.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 18, 2018 10:00 PM (9SkN+)
502
well, fwiw, the totally sane Hodgekins wing of the dNC is advocating for shooting up the NRA. Which is interesting. Not quite a gun free zone, you'd think.
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 18, 2018 10:01 PM (V3U1L)
503
Grump928 @ 482 - The definitions of assault weapon that I have seen (NY, CA) focus on "cosmetic" features: pistol grip, adjustable stock, flash hiders, bayonet lugs, etc.
I think they were based on Feinstein flipping thru a catalog when they wrote the 1994 assault weapon ban.
I think they were based on Feinstein flipping thru a catalog when they wrote the 1994 assault weapon ban.
Posted by: Butch at February 18, 2018 10:01 PM (hXu8T)
504
I think there is a definition for Assault Rifle, but I don't think there is one for Assault Weapon.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
There shouldn't be one for 'assault weapon.'
It's a pleonasm; a redundant phrase. Kind of like the opposite of an oxymoron.
There is no weapon that can't be used in an assault. A fact that fails to be processed in your average Lefty's skull. It's was an emotional term created by the gun-grabbers to get attention.
But, like I wrote above, states like CA are codifying the definition to mean mag-fed semi-auto rifles with certain features like a grip, barrel shroud, etc.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
There shouldn't be one for 'assault weapon.'
It's a pleonasm; a redundant phrase. Kind of like the opposite of an oxymoron.
There is no weapon that can't be used in an assault. A fact that fails to be processed in your average Lefty's skull. It's was an emotional term created by the gun-grabbers to get attention.
But, like I wrote above, states like CA are codifying the definition to mean mag-fed semi-auto rifles with certain features like a grip, barrel shroud, etc.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 18, 2018 10:05 PM (KXVP7)
505
Which is why the Lord in his infinite wisdom created the .357 carbine.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 18, 2018 09:46 PM (BsGS1)
A bit awkward for concealed carry though.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 09:47 PM (NWiLs)
Gentlemen, can we agree to compromise?
https://tinyurl.com/y95jktfm
Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 18, 2018 09:46 PM (BsGS1)
A bit awkward for concealed carry though.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 18, 2018 09:47 PM (NWiLs)
Gentlemen, can we agree to compromise?
https://tinyurl.com/y95jktfm
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 18, 2018 10:07 PM (z79tQ)
506
They have very strict gun control in England. That didn't keep an evil shit from killing 44 kids watching a pop concert and maiming I don't know how many more. And even in jolly old England where the state is not killing people ala Soviet Union, Mao, PolPot etc, citizens having no right to self defense is not working too well from my perspective.
Posted by: PaleRider at February 18, 2018 10:09 PM (84F5k)
507
Modern day surveillance is a totalitarian's wet dream.
Posted by: davidt
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This is about us, isn't it?
Posted by: davidt
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This is about us, isn't it?
Posted by: The goolag at February 18, 2018 10:17 PM (ZpfqO)
508
499 457 I use 2400 in 357 and 44 Mag, H110/W296 (same powder) in 44 Mag and 45 Colt Ruger loads
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 18, 2018 09:46 PM (di1hb)
I've tried H110 in 45 Colt for a Blackhawk, and never found a load I liked. I had problems with inconsistent ignition and even one squib load that left the bullet stuck in the barrel (not fun). This was with recommended loads for the Blackhawk, which are hotter than recommended for old Colts, including magnum primers.
I think the problem may be the large case size, and low loading density. I got more consistent results if I tipped the pistol up to get the powder near the primer before each shot. Not sure what the problem is, I get good results with H110 in 357 and I know it's widely used in 44 mag.
Since that exercise I've been using HP38 in the 45 Colt, but I'd like to find a slower powder that works well.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 18, 2018 10:00 PM (DNH+H)
Take a look at Alliant 300-MP. It works well for me in 44 Mar and 45 Colt Ruger
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 18, 2018 09:46 PM (di1hb)
I've tried H110 in 45 Colt for a Blackhawk, and never found a load I liked. I had problems with inconsistent ignition and even one squib load that left the bullet stuck in the barrel (not fun). This was with recommended loads for the Blackhawk, which are hotter than recommended for old Colts, including magnum primers.
I think the problem may be the large case size, and low loading density. I got more consistent results if I tipped the pistol up to get the powder near the primer before each shot. Not sure what the problem is, I get good results with H110 in 357 and I know it's widely used in 44 mag.
Since that exercise I've been using HP38 in the 45 Colt, but I'd like to find a slower powder that works well.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 18, 2018 10:00 PM (DNH+H)
Take a look at Alliant 300-MP. It works well for me in 44 Mar and 45 Colt Ruger
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 18, 2018 10:17 PM (di1hb)
509
508 Take a look at Alliant 300-MP. It works well for me in 44 Mar and 45 Colt Ruger
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 18, 2018 10:17 PM (di1hb)
Thanks, I'll look at it.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 18, 2018 10:17 PM (di1hb)
Thanks, I'll look at it.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 18, 2018 10:30 PM (DNH+H)
510
Chechens are mostly ...... nuts. Interesting, tough, different.
Only nationality (among the zillion) in the old USSR that really put any fear into the "internal security organs" (we're talking 60s-80s). Had a real mafia. Tough SOBs.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:50 PM (QDnY+)
My understanding - from the Russians I knew in Israel - was that the Georgians were people not to be messed with.
Only nationality (among the zillion) in the old USSR that really put any fear into the "internal security organs" (we're talking 60s-80s). Had a real mafia. Tough SOBs.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 18, 2018 09:50 PM (QDnY+)
My understanding - from the Russians I knew in Israel - was that the Georgians were people not to be messed with.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 18, 2018 10:34 PM (8gDQu)
511
Shotguns are heavy enough. I wouldn't want a lever action shotgun.
Posted by: inflammable at February 18, 2018 10:40 PM (aKxP+)
512
Drugs: My oldest grandson has been taking something for ADHD for a good ten years. The couple of times he forgot to take his meds before going out to lunch and a movie with me, I could have throttled the kid. He was just horrible, so I came to understand that some times, the drugs are good and useful.
OTH, I do agree with you guys who are saying it's the schools that are forcing the drugs on kids, especially boys. Today's teachers simply are not equipped to deal with a class room of kids. They have absolutely no idea how to maintain control, plus most teachers are females and expect the boys in their classes to act like prissy girls. When the boys behave like typical boys, the teachers freak and demand that the boys be dragged off to the doctor to be drugged to the gills.
As a nearly cutting edge Boomer, I was in a grade school class of 36 kids. I do not remember a single one of my teachers ever once losing control of her classroom. My mother taught fourth grade for many years, as did my grandmother. My aunt was a sub before getting her master's and becoming a school librarian. Under absolutely no circumstance can I imagine any of those three failing to maintain classroom discipline. But that was way back when when prospective teachers were taught the art of controlling a classroom. In her last few years of teaching, you should have heard my mother kvetching about how lazy and ignorant the young teachers just starting their careers were.
OTH, I do agree with you guys who are saying it's the schools that are forcing the drugs on kids, especially boys. Today's teachers simply are not equipped to deal with a class room of kids. They have absolutely no idea how to maintain control, plus most teachers are females and expect the boys in their classes to act like prissy girls. When the boys behave like typical boys, the teachers freak and demand that the boys be dragged off to the doctor to be drugged to the gills.
As a nearly cutting edge Boomer, I was in a grade school class of 36 kids. I do not remember a single one of my teachers ever once losing control of her classroom. My mother taught fourth grade for many years, as did my grandmother. My aunt was a sub before getting her master's and becoming a school librarian. Under absolutely no circumstance can I imagine any of those three failing to maintain classroom discipline. But that was way back when when prospective teachers were taught the art of controlling a classroom. In her last few years of teaching, you should have heard my mother kvetching about how lazy and ignorant the young teachers just starting their careers were.
Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at February 18, 2018 10:46 PM (RU19b)
513
The gun grabbers keep talking about the NRA as if it was some sort of stand alone construct. They never seem to see the connection between the NRA and its hundreds of thousands of members, members who are human beings who fervently believe in what the NRA is and does. They just keep babbling on about the NRA and "the gun lobby" as some sort of ogres that need to be eradicated.
Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at February 18, 2018 10:57 PM (RU19b)
514
499 Try Trail Boss.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 18, 2018 11:02 PM (fZlu3)
Posted by: Beverly at February 19, 2018 01:08 AM (r3BoM)
516
The core policy platform for liberals is power. I used to be confused about the disconnect between Islam"s homophobia, sexism, etc, and the party of free love Democrats. Once I realized that stuff was just a means to the core policy, it all made sense. They admire the control that Islam exerts on its people.
So in the US, the main objective of the hateful liberals is to force the people they hate, to do things or give up things that they love.
Gay marriage was aimed at Christians, global warming at pickup driving rednecks, gun control at gun nuts.
Once you understand how they wave to use power, you understand how they can had so many conflicting policies.
So in the US, the main objective of the hateful liberals is to force the people they hate, to do things or give up things that they love.
Gay marriage was aimed at Christians, global warming at pickup driving rednecks, gun control at gun nuts.
Once you understand how they wave to use power, you understand how they can had so many conflicting policies.
Posted by: Thesgm at February 19, 2018 07:08 AM (3m8he)
Posted by: dagny at February 19, 2018 10:05 AM (16bxt)
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The Grand son's schools are like security posts and have been for years.
The doors only open outward except for those that are monitored.
No One not on the list can see, pick up or even talk to the students.
I know some schools are protected and many are not.
I wonder though, did anyone see this monster get out of a vehicle and walk towards the school with that AR-15?
Even during a fire alarm something should have been noticed in a time when an umbrella can shut down a college campus how did this murderer just walk in shooting.
Schools are soft targets for sure they need better security a system of CCT monitored 24/7 is not too much.
The doors only open outward except for those that are monitored.
No One not on the list can see, pick up or even talk to the students.
I know some schools are protected and many are not.
I wonder though, did anyone see this monster get out of a vehicle and walk towards the school with that AR-15?
Even during a fire alarm something should have been noticed in a time when an umbrella can shut down a college campus how did this murderer just walk in shooting.
Schools are soft targets for sure they need better security a system of CCT monitored 24/7 is not too much.
Posted by: obsidian at February 19, 2018 10:06 AM (ARK2U)
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Sadly, have come to the conclusion that Parkland, as with other shootings where the shooter reports that he heard voices, are Deep State operations to advance the gun control agenda. The technology is there, and the fact that the FBI was aware of Cruz supports my conclusion.
As POTUS might say, "So sad."
As POTUS might say, "So sad."
Posted by: TwoToTango at February 19, 2018 11:34 AM (FvyuI)
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