Is Another House Of Cards About To Tumble Down? Forensic Science Isn't Really Science...

Slap the word "science" onto something and a lot of people (including me sometimes) have a reflexive assumption that there is actual, real study behind it. Peer reviewed articles describing statistically significant research that has been replicated by independent researchers.

But what if that isn't the case? We have seen it already with the voodoo climate science that the Left is trying to foist upon the world. The intersection of politics and supposedly impartial study is a dangerous thing, and this article makes the case that we have another AGW fiasco on our hands, but this time it's putting people in prison.

What If Forensic Science Isnít Really Science?

Law enforcement borrowed terms from science, establishing crime “laboratories” staffed by forensic “scientists” who announced “theories” cloaked in their own specialized jargon. But forensic “science” focused on inventing clever ways to solve cases and win convictions; it was never about forming theories and testing them according to basic scientific standards. By adopting the trappings of science, the forensic disciplines co-opted its authority while abandoning its methods.

A bit of editing of the above quotation and we have a perfect description of the AGW scam.

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1 Foist

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 11:57 AM (nAiYt)

2 Roomy in here.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 11:57 AM (nAiYt)

3 Everybody musta slept in.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 11:57 AM (nAiYt)

4 I'm late but I'm here.

Posted by: Thanatopsis at February 11, 2018 11:58 AM (9dWxJ)

5 Well, everyone knows "bite marks" forensics is quakery.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 11:59 AM (nAiYt)

6 5 Well, everyone knows "bite marks" forensics is quakery.
Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 11:59 AM (nAiYt)

Bloody Quakers.

Posted by: Warai-otoko (who hates oatmeal) at February 11, 2018 12:00 PM (jnLXM)

7 Exhibit number one for this phenomena: the FBI crime lab. See also: decades of falsified results.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 12:00 PM (FTXAT)

8 So, police made a big bust at a cock fight.
I'd like to see the forensics on that.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2018 12:00 PM (0tfLf)

9 Can't believe I made first from the far west time zone. Not to worry, next week, I'll be in New York for work. Ardsley...what kind of town is it? Anyone know?

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 12:01 PM (nAiYt)

10 Even the better practices are better termed "forensic technology"...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at February 11, 2018 12:03 PM (lLeln)

11 And while we are mentioning quackery represented as hard science that will be foisted upon you. Only between 10% and 30% of medical/psychological peer reviewed studies are reproducible.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 12:03 PM (FTXAT)

12 I really get the feeling we've passed a point-of-no-return kinda moment as a nation.

The cat's out of the bag. Many will plug up their ears and say "nyanyanyanya", because they don't want their team to lose, but there's no getting rid of the public perception of the whole national law enforcement apparatus as inept, corrupt, and frankly dangerous.

Hooray.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 12:03 PM (jnLXM)

13
* crickets *

Posted by: S▀d B▀▀menthal at February 11, 2018 12:04 PM (2FqvZ)

14 Can't believe I made first from the far west time
zone. Not to worry, next week, I'll be in New York for work.
Ardsley...what kind of town is it? Anyone know?

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 12:01 PM (nAiYt)

Think 8.5 million people squeezed into 22 square miles.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at February 11, 2018 12:04 PM (TPimP)

15 So, police made a big bust at a cock fight.

I'd like to see the forensics on that.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2018 12:00 PM (0tfLf)

I am a star witness for the state.

Posted by: SHEP at February 11, 2018 12:04 PM (MAstk)

16
How much is pseudoscience and how much is conviction-at-all-costs prosecutors?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 12:04 PM (kjVQQ)

17 White dude going free because he shoots a black guy in self defense = no justice no peace

Opposition party candidate spied on by sitting president and full force of high level government officials in FBI, DOJ, etc = no big deal

SCIENCE!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 11, 2018 12:05 PM (Hn4z/)

18 Also, I'm not sure I'm returning to church until July. It seems like it's third in line for "best places to catch flu" behind doctors offices and schools.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 11, 2018 12:06 PM (Hn4z/)

19 How much is pseudoscience and how much is conviction-at-all-costs prosecutors?



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 12:04 PM (kjVQQ)

Embrace the power of and.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 12:07 PM (FTXAT)

20 Don't want this to be seen as a cop bashing thread - but the vast majority of LEO officials I've met and read have no understanding at all of what actual "science" is. They have no patience for or acceptance of errors of measurments, and they don't understand that anything at all that depends on statistical analysis by definition has some greater than zero chance of being completely wrong.

and don't even get started on the mathematical errors built into the entire concept of statistical analysis.

long story short - a significant amount of the time, "Forensic Science" is simply a way for the prosecution to shout "SCIENCE!!" and browbeat the defendant into a plea bargain, rather than taking a chance with a jury who will be impressed by the prosecution's fancy spreadsheets.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 12:07 PM (V2Yro)

21 Ardsley...what kind of town is it? Anyone know?
Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 12:01 PM (nAiYt)

Well, it is almost next door to Scarsdale. Maybe it has a friendly neighborhood Rolex store too?

Posted by: Ann at February 11, 2018 12:07 PM (jtHQy)

22 There's no such thing as impartial science because of the overwhelming force of the ego. "Scientists" see what they want to see just like everyone else, and the bigger the claims they're trying to make the more this is true. The FDA tacitly acknowledges this by forcing drug companies to double blind and randomize their studies. And even then the investigators manage to figure out who's on the test compound by their side effects. The huge wave for SSRIs and now for statins is evidence of our boundless capacity for self-deception. We see what we want to see.

Posted by: Caliban at February 11, 2018 12:07 PM (QE8X6)

23 @14. I was hoping small town like Chester or Florida. Close to the big city, but far enough away.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 12:08 PM (nAiYt)

24
Only between 10% and 30% of medical/psychological peer reviewed studies are reproducible.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 12:03 PM (FTXAT)


When I was doing synthetic organometallic chemistry, my rule of thumb was to take the yield of a published procedure and divide by three to get the true yield.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 12:08 PM (kjVQQ)

25 bastards.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:08 PM (Z8j2x)

26
Forensic Science is half-bullshit and half-conjecture and half-bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 12:11 PM (rW4yT)

27 When you say, NY, were you talking about business in NYC? You could stay outside of NYC (for instance at a hotel in Jersey), but getting into the city is no easy chore during rush hours.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at February 11, 2018 12:11 PM (TPimP)

28 Forensic science is a tool. Like a hammer. Hammers are used to build houses. Hammers are also used to kill people. Its not the hammer. Its who is using it.

Posted by: PhilDirt at February 11, 2018 12:12 PM (CxDBa)

29

...and a quarter-supposition, and a third-assumption.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 12:12 PM (rW4yT)

30 one of the main reasons "forensic science" has such a hold on the public consciousness is due to shows like "CSI", going back to Sherlock Holmes. We like to think of the world as knowable, and that if we just had enough information we could figure out anything.

We hate to be told that a significant amount of the time, there are going to be events, even bad events, in which we will *never* be able to figure out what actually happened beyond a reasonable doubt (Jon Benet Ramsey, for one) and that, in those cases, our "science" today is no better than the superstitious ramblings of some Delphic oracle.

But because we have an emotional need to achieve certainty, and thereby achieve closure, there are always people who will be willing to make a fortune by fulfilling our emotional needs and telling us the sweet, sweet lies that we are begging to hear.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 12:12 PM (V2Yro)

31 If your data isn't compelling, you just need to add 3 or 4 more decimal places to the numbers, makes things seem oh so science-y.

Real life example? Electronic medical records calculating children's height and weight percentiles to two decimal places.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:12 PM (wPiJc)

32
Don't want this to be seen as a cop bashing thread - but the vast
majority of LEO officials I've met and read have no understanding at all
of what actual "science" is. They have no patience for or acceptance
of errors of measurments, and they don't understand that anything at
all that depends on statistical analysis by definition has some greater
than zero chance of being completely wrong.



and don't even get started on the mathematical errors built into the entire concept of statistical analysis.



long story short - a significant amount of the time, "Forensic
Science" is simply a way for the prosecution to shout "SCIENCE!!" and
browbeat the defendant into a plea bargain, rather than taking a chance
with a jury who will be impressed by the prosecution's fancy
spreadsheets.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 12:07 PM (V2Yro)

Same thing with doctors... I cannot count at this point the times I have had to argue with doctors as part of my job that "that is not what that study says" and " I understand that the point estimate of that variable that you want to be a positive number is a positive number but the standard error and p-value show that the variable value is not statistically different than zero. Given that, you cannot honestly claim x has a positive effect on y."

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 12:13 PM (FTXAT)

33

It goes like this (just like in Economics), Okay we *know* A, and *if* we *suppose* B, then C!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 12:13 PM (rW4yT)

34 Many, many years ago, I remember a 'scientist' named Louise Robbins who made millions testifying for prosecutors on some kind of 'footprint' science. She worked on some Leakey anthro projects and parlayed that into megabux identifying footprints. Most of her testimony has now been debunked and a few Illinois cases that used her testimony have now been retried with different results.

Fraud costs a lot of money -- especially for taxpayers.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 12:13 PM (MIKMs)

35 Travelingman...sorry, I misread your post....not enough coffee yet!! Thought you would be in NYC.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at February 11, 2018 12:13 PM (TPimP)

36 "Sorry to break it to you ma'am, but your child has fallen from the 59.04th percentile to the 58..65th percentile in a mere 7.274 months. He won't be getting into an Ivy League school now. You might as well just fall on your sword and admit you are an unfit parent!"

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:13 PM (wPiJc)

37 I ask my expert witnesses to call themselves "tactical scientists." It sounds badass.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 12:14 PM (9SkN+)

38 Stormin' Norman Schwartzkopf's dad was the prosecutor in the Lindberg kidnapping case against Bruno Richard Hauptman. He has been accused of using fake science to "prove" that the homemade ladder used in the kidnapping was made from wood from Hauptman's attic.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 12:14 PM (+y/Ru)

39
But please note, that's how most of us Make Decisions on a daily basis!

So it's not all bad. But it's Bad Science.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 12:15 PM (rW4yT)

40 Traveling Man....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardsley,_New_York

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at February 11, 2018 12:15 PM (TPimP)

41 Going to be working a job in Ardsley, NY. As far as I can tell, it's north of Yonkers and hopefully 40 or 50 miles from the Big Apple.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 12:15 PM (nAiYt)

42 The cat's out of the bag. Many will plug up their ears and say "nyanyanyanya", because they don't want their team to lose, but there's no getting rid of the public perception of the whole national law enforcement apparatus as inept, corrupt, and frankly dangerous.
Hooray.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 12:03 PM (jnLXM)

Yup....not to mention double dipping, fat pensions with COLAs, bennies out the back door and union protection.

All the while piling up the public debt.

The KGB weeps with envy.

Hooray!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 12:15 PM (EoRCO)

43

Did you see the new tv ad for "tactical" socks?!?!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 12:15 PM (rW4yT)

44 26
Forensic Science is half-bullshit and half-conjecture and half-bullshit.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 12:11 PM (rW4yT)

So, 97% consensus ?

Posted by: jsg at February 11, 2018 12:15 PM (/FL4O)

45 isn't this a Post alex should jump in on?

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:15 PM (Z8j2x)

46
Well, everyone knows "bite marks" forensics is quakery.
Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 11:59 AM



Convictions based on these bite marks, as you call them, is unjust, I tell you.

Forensics, bah! A foul bauble of man's vanity.

Posted by: Count Dracula at February 11, 2018 12:16 PM (EzdLW)

47 43 Next up,tactical underwear.The camouflage hides the skid marks at least...

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2018 12:17 PM (LiyEm)

48 Going to be working a job in Ardsley, NY. As far as I
can tell, it's north of Yonkers and hopefully 40 or 50 miles from the
Big Apple.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 12:15 PM (nAiYt)

40 to 50 miles should put you in the "safe area".

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at February 11, 2018 12:17 PM (TPimP)

49 Hammers are used to build houses. Hammers are also used to kill people.


*******


Hammers are used to hammer in the morning...and in the evening...all over this land.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:18 PM (wPiJc)

50 Did you see the new tv ad for "tactical" socks?!?!


Carbon fiber. It makes all the difference.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 12:18 PM (9SkN+)

51 the first problem with forensics is the labs technique and errors. for instance i have 3 verifiable incorrect labs on spouse.

i am trying to decide when to let docs know their guesses are only as good as those they send information 2.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:18 PM (Z8j2x)

52 and of course what this will mean to His healthcare.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:19 PM (Z8j2x)

53 I really get the feeling we've passed a point-of-no-return kinda moment as a nation.

-
Once we abandon truth as a standarx in favor of diversity and social justice, we lost our compass and are merely being tossec about in stormy seas.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 12:19 PM (+y/Ru)

54 Forensic science hasn't been doing so well in Massachusetts in recent years.

Some woman went to jail a couple years back for fudging results.

Posted by: fluffy at February 11, 2018 12:19 PM (cHbmY)

55 Real life example? Electronic medical records calculating children's height and weight percentiles to two decimal places.

=====

LOL. All of my kids were totally off those silly charts. Doctor joked that he should make his money by submitting his patients' h/w 'anomalies'. Current crop of grandkids just make it onto the current charts.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 12:19 PM (MIKMs)

56 So my foray into forensic phrenology probably isn't worth the effort then?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 12:19 PM (9SkN+)

57 "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."--Upton Sinclair.

"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole. We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy."--United Nations climate official Ottmar Edenhofer, co-chair of the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change working group on Mitigation of Climate Change, 2008-2015

Some of you who grew up with this propaganda in your Saturday morning cartoons may have never heard this said, so consider this a trigger warning.

When I was a kid(tm), we had a thing called "weather". Sometimes it was good, sometimes it was bad. Sometimes we had dust bowls and hurricanes, sometimes we had rainfall and bumper crops. But we didn't worship the weather.

Back then, the Left wanted things they couldn't have. They wanted higher taxes. They wanted to transfer America's wealth and sovereignty to unaccountable international bodies like the UN. They wanted to completely control industrial policy, yet still have political deniability when their policies created impoverishment and slow growth. They wanted to propagandize schoolchildren, arrogating unto themselves the automatic moral high ground and the right not to have their motives questioned while questioning everyone else's. They wanted to silence dissent. But they couldn't have these things--a free people would never consent to them.

But, miracle of miracles, "science" came along and "discovered" Climate Change, and poof! all their goals are realized! It's the damnedest coincidence in history!

What are the odds that science just happens to "discover" the magic keys that fortuitously unlock the Left's Political Wish List? It's just as unlikely as your Bar-B-Cue grill affecting sea levels a century from now. And even if their protocols were implemented, they admit that temperatures wouldn't change by more than a fraction. Of a fraction. Of a fraction. It's about control, not results. It's not "man-made"--it's Manufactured.

They say "The Science is Settled! The Science is Settled!"

No, but the science *funding* is pretty well settled. And it goes to the Agree-ers. Turns out, you can create a fair amount of "consensus" by funding and recognizing the Received Wisdom Pre-Approved by the $tate. I'm not saying all those scientists are bought, but they are all human. And funded by other humans with a Vested Interest in the Correct Result. The Left dismisses scientists who are funded by Big Oil, even threatening them legally. But scientists funded by Big Government are somehow exempt?

Everyone wants a fat paycheck, to be recognized, to be told their work is important, even vital to the survival of the planet. And computer models of events a century away are so nebulous as to be fiction-ish. But all the incentives are as real as Buffy's orthodontist bill.

Let's say I suddenly "discovered" a weather phenomenon that required limited government, lower taxes and free-market capitalism--would anyone believe it? Yet liberals "discovered" one that requires all their favorite policies: Global Government, higher energy taxes and control of industrial policy. Not to mention all their scientists are on the government payroll and are defunded for dissenting. And now threatened with prosecution, too. Because...Science!

That's not science--that's Al Capone with a chemistry set.

Posted by: Tem Million Illegal Aliens at February 11, 2018 12:20 PM (Ndje9)

58
Hammers are used to hammer in the morning...and in the evening...all over this land.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:18 PM (wPiJc)
------
Well, yes - if I had a hammer.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 12:20 PM (Sfs6o)

59 Well, yes - if I had a hammer.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 12:20 PM (Sfs6o)



I have a hammer.

Posted by: Maxwell at February 11, 2018 12:21 PM (9SkN+)

60 We need to separate and decentralize the justice system. The police, prosecutors and forensic analysists should not be under one roof (DOJ). And the current lack of accountability is ridiculous.

Posted by: pookysgirl at February 11, 2018 12:21 PM (XKZwp)

61 "Real life example? Electronic medical records calculating children's height and weight percentiles to two decimal places. "

That is such a perfect example!!!! Doctors office takes 5 readings on a scale that is only accurate to the nearest pound, with no normalization as to time of day, last defecation, most recent meal, etc. Then they average 5 such readings and put out a number accurate to two decimal places and claim that this is their "Scientific" Official Measurement.

Errors in measurement accumulate as more and more measurements are made, they never diminish. Nobody putting out these idiotic numbers today seems to understand that. Of course, it's been pointed out that it's hard to convince a man of something when his salary depends on him not understanding it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 12:21 PM (V2Yro)

62 Without rigorous adherence to methodology and documentation anything can be corrupted. If you can't go back and audit the process, you really can't determine if whether the results were achieved objectively. Definitely not scientific.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at February 11, 2018 12:22 PM (rdl6o)

63 Stop the hammering !

Posted by: Lawrence O'Donnell at February 11, 2018 12:22 PM (/FL4O)

64 if i were a carpenter..

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:22 PM (Z8j2x)

65 @ Crazyjerseyguy.

I've looked it up on the net, but I was just wondering about anyone's personal experience in the town. Always nice to get a local perspective.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 12:23 PM (nAiYt)

66 Meh. Sometimes forensic science is science, and good stuff it is, too. And sometimes it is BS. It takes a lot of work to go from even the best designed study to the courtroom. Usually multiple studies and a lot of experience are needed.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 11, 2018 12:23 PM (UE1ou)

67 I have a hammer. I get my picture taken with it once a year.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at February 11, 2018 12:23 PM (9SkN+)

68 science is only as good as its technicians

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:24 PM (Z8j2x)

69 >>>if i were a carpenter..

If I were a nail.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess of ignorant Loudoun County hillbillies at February 11, 2018 12:24 PM (cu8/f)

70 But because we have an emotional need to achieve certainty, and thereby achieve closure, there are always people who will be willing to make a fortune by fulfilling our emotional needs and telling us the sweet, sweet lies that we are begging to hear.
Posted by: Tom Servo


******

Yup. The 'need for certainty' is a huge driver of health care spending. I talk of this cooncept often in my daily practice. Trying to talk somebody out of a medical test that is highly unlikely to add any appreciable level of certainty is a Sisyphean task. There is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to medical tests, but try explaining that to someone whose bills are paid by someone else.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:24 PM (wPiJc)

71 We can still trust forensic psychology, though, right?

Posted by: Methos at February 11, 2018 12:24 PM (XQvuQ)

72 61
"Real life example? Electronic medical records calculating children's height and weight percentiles to two decimal places. "



That is such a perfect example!!!! Doctors office takes 5 readings
on a scale that is only accurate to the nearest pound, with no
normalization as to time of day, last defecation, most recent meal, etc.
Then they average 5 such readings and put out a number accurate to two
decimal places and claim that this is their "Scientific" Official
Measurement.



Errors in measurement accumulate as more and more measurements are
made, they never diminish. Nobody putting out these idiotic numbers
today seems to understand that. Of course, it's been pointed out that
it's hard to convince a man of something when his salary depends on him
not understanding it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 12:21 PM (V2Yro)
My fave is ultrasound dating of pregnancy to within a day.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 11, 2018 12:25 PM (UE1ou)

73 Yup. The 'need for certainty' is a huge driver of health care spending. I talk of this cooncept often in my daily practice. Trying to talk somebody out of a medical test that is highly unlikely to add any appreciable level of certainty is a Sisyphean task. There is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to medical tests, but try explaining that to someone whose bills are paid by someone else.


If it saves just ONE LIFE....

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 12:25 PM (9SkN+)

74 i broke two nails yesterday while dealings with sanding a floor.

how bad can life be in one day?

don't laugh i pride myself in my nails when i have to be so active otherwise.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:26 PM (Z8j2x)

75 I've been watching segments of "Forensic Science" on Netflix before going to sleep, and I too had begun wondering about the scientific validity of many of their studies.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:26 PM (MjCfq)

76 63 Stop the hammering !
Posted by: Lawrence O'Donnell at February 11, 2018 12:22 PM (/FL4O)

64 if i were a carpenter..
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:22 PM (Z8j2x)


Timing, it's an awesome thing...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at February 11, 2018 12:26 PM (lLeln)

77 And the FBI crime lab is not all it was cracked up to be either,

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 11, 2018 12:27 PM (mpXpK)

78 The real tragedy is that Headline News will need a new format.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 12:27 PM (+y/Ru)

79 i broke two nails yesterday while dealings with sanding a floor.

how bad can life be in one day?


Slap still has some room on the prayer list, willow

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 12:27 PM (9SkN+)

80 My sacral chakra, you will release it.

Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2018 12:27 PM (bJ0w+)

81
So my foray into forensic phrenology probably isn't worth the effort then?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 12:19 PM (9SkN+)


Just sit down there next to Phlogiston Theory and Ptolemaic Epicycles.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 12:27 PM (kjVQQ)

82 71 We can still trust forensic psychology, though, right?
Posted by: Methos at February 11, 2018 12:24 PM (XQvuQ


It's pretty good, but not as good as sociology. Rock hard science there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:27 PM (MjCfq)

83 cicero i see your small violin and raise you to a tape measure!

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:28 PM (Z8j2x)

84 Errors in measurement accumulate as more and more measurements are made, they never diminish. Nobody putting out these idiotic numbers today seems to understand that. Of course, it's been pointed out that
it's hard to convince a man of something when his salary depends on him not understanding it.

Posted by: Tom Servo


Too many people rely on "statistics" that understand nothing about how statistics are arrived at, or even what they actually mean. It's a ruse and a scam.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at February 11, 2018 12:28 PM (lLeln)

85 Accuracy of measurements is an interesting subject. In reloading, I often make various measurements to the thousandth and even ten thousandth of an inch. At that point accuracy with various tools - calipers and micrometers - depend on consistent operator technique and quality of the measurement tool being used.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 12:28 PM (Sfs6o)

86 Sea Monkeys!

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 11, 2018 12:29 PM (QLvwG)

87 So my foray into forensic phrenology probably isn't worth the effort then?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)


How many times do I have to remind the Horde that the only legit branch is corrective phrenology?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at February 11, 2018 12:29 PM (lLeln)

88 Errors in measurement accumulate as more and more measurements are
made, they never diminish. Nobody putting out these idiotic numbers
today seems to understand that. Of course, it's been pointed out that
it's hard to convince a man of something when his salary depends on him
not understanding it.
--------
See 'tolerance stacking'

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 12:30 PM (Sfs6o)

89 i'm just going to ask this question as weird as it may sound.

I have 3 separate blood labs all stating one thing while I know without any question they are wrong.


the only thing in common is our insurance company.

i have no idea if That is what set the perimeter

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:30 PM (Z8j2x)

90 Also... "The product of a mathematical equation is NOT the same thing as the solution to a problem."

Try explaining THAT to my engineer brother. i have for 40 years, and i am STILL trying to get him to understand that simple logic.

Posted by: goatexchange at February 11, 2018 12:30 PM (YFnq5)

91 Funny, I'm re-reading "New Lands" by Charles Fort, and so far (about a third in) he seems to be saying "Astronomers do a lot of guessing, and many times they guess wrong. People with no training could make the same guesses with the same results."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 11, 2018 12:30 PM (l9m7l)

92 Too many people rely on "statistics" that understand nothing about how
statistics are arrived at, or even what they actually mean. It's a ruse
and a scam.
=====

I'm pretty sure that some of you mathy morons had statistics classes. 'How to Lie With Statistics' was one of the older textbooks.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 12:30 PM (MIKMs)

93 i should add i have a older one i know was right.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:31 PM (Z8j2x)

94 I see where all this discussion is heading. RCH, right?

Posted by: goatexchange at February 11, 2018 12:31 PM (YFnq5)

95 Don't want this to be seen as a cop bashing thread - but the vast majority of LEO officials I've met and read have no understanding at all of what actual "science" is.

Let's face it - the vast majority of PEOPLE have no understanding at all of what actual science is.

Including, lamentably, even some scientists. And I mean practitioners in real sciences, not social sciences.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:31 PM (MjCfq)

96 51 the first problem with forensics is the labs technique and errors. for instance i have 3 verifiable incorrect labs on spouse.
i am trying to decide when to let docs know their guesses are only as good as those they send information 2."

Willow - serious example as to the answer you will get, guaranteed. My sister in law (now retired) was an RN, worked most hospital positions. For a period, she was on a late night shift which mostly was giving the ICU patients their medications on a schedule. She was busy some night and grabbed the wrong vial and gave one a powerful heart med instead of the antibiotic he was supposed to get, almost put him into cardio. (luckily he recovered)

She was horrified, certain she was going to be fired, maybe worse, she was shaking all over but went up to the head nurse and confessed all. The head nurse replied (and this is the answer that you'll get too) - "Oh, THAT's all. That happens here all the time, everyone does it sooner or later. Don't worry about it, we all know."

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 12:32 PM (V2Yro)

97 I was almost asleep; lethargy creeping up on me when my roommate yelled my name, "Sue! Sue! Sue Dee Oh!"

I thought the house was on fire or something.


Posted by: Sue Dee Oh at February 11, 2018 12:32 PM (ECDXs)

98 Interesting bit of trivia:

When I was a young moron, Speech team and classes were called 'Forensics'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 12:33 PM (MIKMs)

99 Medicine is not a science.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:33 PM (MjCfq)

100 Epicycles, yeah those were a reach.

The funny thing is, Copernicus came up with an alternative hypothesis that explained planetary motion elegantly without the need for all the contortions and gyrations of Ptolemaic theory. Yet, he didn't propose it as an actual explanation of reality. He only offered it as "one weird trick" to predict observations, while accepting (at least publicly) that the universe was still geocentric.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 12:33 PM (9SkN+)

101 How many times do I have to remind the Horde that the only legit branch is corrective phrenology?
Posted by: Brother Cavil,


*******


Excellent point. And yet another good use for a hammer.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:33 PM (wPiJc)

102 Tom, two are from the hospital , two from same lab, one from another, I DID supspect hospital ones incorrect at first, because total amt of labs and so many patients. but

the initial one was right.

3 same, 1 is right and something other.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:34 PM (Z8j2x)

103 How many times do I have to remind the Horde that the only legit branch is corrective phrenology?
Posted by: Brother Cavil,


*******


Excellent point. And yet another good use for a hammer.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:33 PM (wPiJc)


Yes, the physician as sculptor. And they say there is no art left in medicine.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 12:35 PM (9SkN+)

104 I think I drank too much coffee.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 12:35 PM (Sfs6o)

105 Ardsley is a nice boring Westchester suburb in between Scarsdale and Dobbs Ferry. Marc Zuckerburg went to Ardsley High. I know this because I live nearby.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 12:36 PM (pV/54)

106 yeah... I'm not sure I'm buying it... the Article is from The Nation, a rabid left-wing publication... The whole thing's dramatized feel-casting and is squarely from the viewpoint that all these guys in Prison are innocent victims caught in a rigged system... It has a one or two valid points, but they get lost in the authors overly florid, grandiose writing style...

Posted by: I smell something rotten at February 11, 2018 12:36 PM (iWzUm)

107 Beer with ice chips at the top is best beer.

Settled Science.

Posted by: jsg at February 11, 2018 12:36 PM (/FL4O)

108 I'm late but I'm here.
Posted by: Thanatopsis
---
The *late* Thanatopsis?

I'm killing me.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 11, 2018 12:36 PM (tr2D7)

109
Westminster starts tomorrow. Judging Best in Show is a task given to the most prestigious judges in the dog show world. What no one realizes is that you could pull in anyone off the street and have them point to one of the seven group winners and they would not be too wrong.

Someone once said, only partly tongue-in-cheek, that judges should start by doing Best in Show, move on to judging Variety Groups and only then, when they acquire enough experience, start judging individual breeds.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 12:36 PM (kjVQQ)

110 Don't want this to be seen as a cop bashing thread - but the vast majority of LEO officials I've met and read have no understanding at all of what actual "science" is. They have no patience for or acceptance of errors of measurments, and they don't understand that anything at all that depends on statistical analysis by definition has some greater than zero chance of being completely wrong.


Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 12:07 PM (V2Yro)

Isn't that the truth. When I used to do criminal defense work, I would have fun with the lab tech and cross examine them with questions about the technology they were using. They wouldn't know statistical analysis from a toilet plunger. Significant digits and error in measurements? You may as well have been asking them to read Dante's Inferno in the original Latin.

Gas chromatography is a joke if you're looking for "science."

Unfortunately my clients were usually guilty as hell, but it sure was fun exposing the lab "scientists" for the hacks they really we're.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at February 11, 2018 12:38 PM (EZWNE)

111 Yes, the physician as sculptor. And they say there is no art left in medicine.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 12:35 PM (9SkN+)

An uncle always told me that physicians are just practicing, that's why they say they have a practice.

Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 12:38 PM (weSWO)

112
Including, lamentably, even some scientists. And I mean practitioners in real sciences, not social sciences.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Science is the process by which the right answer is arrived at.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 12:38 PM (kjVQQ)

113 I think I drank too much coffee.

===

drink some orange juice

Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 11, 2018 12:39 PM (z2W2E)

114 Don't want this to be seen as a cop bashing thread - but the vast majority of LEO officials I've met and read have no understanding at all of what actual "science" is.
-------------------------------------
Let's face it - the vast majority of PEOPLE have no understanding at all of what actual science is.

Including, lamentably, even some scientists. And I mean practitioners in real sciences, not social sciences.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:31 PM (MjCfq)


I'll be perfectly honest about this too: I know there is a ton of "research" out there that supports stuff I tell to people, when I want to make a point. Much of it, I believe they got it right... but have I done the digging into this so-called research to find out if the standard of high degrees of reliability have been adhered to?

Hell no!

When I want to make a point, often the fact is, it's quicker and easier to sound like I know what I'm talking about, than to actually, you know, present the evidence.

That's how it works in the real world. And I know this in the field where I work. I take it for granted it happens essentially everywhere else, because when I DO dig into those other worlds, those other areas of information, lots of it looks like smoke and mirrors.

Including law enforcement "science." Some of which I will quote myself, when the need arises.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2018 12:39 PM (Pz4pT)

115 Ardsley is a nice boring Westchester suburb in between Scarsdale and Dobbs Ferry. Marc Zuckerburg went to Ardsley High. I know this because I live nearby.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 12:36 PM (pV/54)


Well cool. Thanks. My next question is a recommendation for a quiet bar or pub that serves decent food.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 12:39 PM (nAiYt)

116 I'm late but I'm here.†
Posted by: Thanatopsis†
---†
The *late* Thanatopsis?†

I'm killing me.
...........

Sheesh. Everyone is a comedian in this place.

Posted by: Thanatopsis at February 11, 2018 12:40 PM (9dWxJ)

117 You guys talking science?

Posted by: Bill Nye at February 11, 2018 12:40 PM (QLvwG)

118 The whole thing's dramatized feel-casting and is squarely from the
viewpoint that all these guys in Prison are innocent victims caught in a
rigged system... It has a one or two valid points, but they get lost
in the authors overly florid, grandiose writing style...
=====

J'accuse. (Zola, Dreyfus)

Just because you or I dislike the source does not necessarily negate the points. We do our own research.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 12:40 PM (MIKMs)

119 Science is the process by which the right answer is arrived at.

---

or, a closer approximation thereof

Posted by: Julian the Apolactate at February 11, 2018 12:41 PM (z2W2E)

120 Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:30 PM (Z8j2x)

Plenty of false negative/false positive involved in medical testing; many tests are notorious for it. Doesn't have to mean anything nefarious is going on.

Posted by: Papal Prunes and Prisms at February 11, 2018 12:41 PM (htlVR)

121 Just sit down there next to Phlogiston Theory and Ptolemaic Epicycles.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 12:27 PM (kjVQQ)


In fairness, those weren't theories (in the way scientists use the word), they were conjectures, guesses at how things worked.

Any research project starts with what I call the taxonomic phase, where one simply collects observations about a phenomenon. (Can't build bricks without straw, and all that.)

With enough observations, one generates conjectures about the phenomenon, its origin, mechanism, etc.

Snugging down the conjectures, one generates one or more hypotheses, which are testable versions of conjectures, then conducts the relevant tests, and reviews the hypotheses in light of the results, modifying or rejecting the hypotheses in consequence.

So I wouldn't disparage phlogiston. It was a perfectly reasonable conjecture at the time, viz., that heat was a substance.

Consider the comparable case today: how are memories formed? Are they chemical in nature, and if so, in what type of chemical compounds? Proteins? Nucleic acids? What? Or are they physical in nature, and if so, what? Potentials across neurons?

Someday some of those will be considered laughable, but right now (AFAIK, which God knows is not hardly anything) they're all potentially in play. (no pun intended)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:41 PM (MjCfq)

122 /sock

Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 11, 2018 12:42 PM (z2W2E)

123 CAGW theory violates every tenet of the Scientific Every, Single. One.

It's not Climate Science. It's Climate Studies.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 12:42 PM (pV/54)

124 119 Science is the process by which the right answer is arrived at.

or, a closer approximation thereof
Posted by: Julian the Apolactate at February 11, 2018 12:41 PM (z2W2E)


I'd say science is the process by which useful models for making predictions is arrived at.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:43 PM (MjCfq)

125 Most politicians are sort of like scientists, they are always doing the same thing over and over thinking they will get a different result next time.

Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 12:43 PM (weSWO)

126 Papal Prunes , i get that, , but life and death hang on these specific tests for some.

Not in our case, but just that it happened way more than it should have. for someone else it might mean something way different in outcome.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:44 PM (Z8j2x)

127 Isaac Newton, arguably the greatest scientist ever, spent a lot of time on alchemy trying to turn lead into gold. Good scientists bump around in the dark a lot.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 12:45 PM (pV/54)

128 When I worked in pharmaceuticals, I'd have a really hard time getting the heads of the department renewing the service agreements to calibrate the equipment because of the cost. They all seemed to want the latest and greatest computers, which I had to buy them(ego procurement). Drug discovery was secondary to attaining a title.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at February 11, 2018 12:46 PM (rdl6o)

129 >>> 104 I think I drank too much coffee.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 12:35 PM (Sfs6o)

Unpossible! That's like saying you ate too mich bacon.

Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at February 11, 2018 12:46 PM (UpyQ/)

130
Near as I can tell an non-scientific poll is generally more accurate than a scientific one.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2018 12:47 PM (r+sAi)

131 Ya, science is all that, but wait until you start arguing philosophy.

plato.stanford.edu

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 11, 2018 12:47 PM (ECDXs)

132 Is it too late to get some of these unjustly accused convicts vindicated and released in time for them to participate in the all-inclusive Winter Olympic Games?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:47 PM (wPiJc)

133 Wardrobe malfunction.

http://bit.ly/2EjFkQL

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 12:47 PM (+y/Ru)

134 When I was a young moron, Speech team and classes were called 'Forensics'.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 12:33 PM (MIKMs)


Perfectly valid usage. "Forensics" has come to imply "criminal law" through a narrowing in popular usage occasioned by CSI, etc., but "forensic" refers basically to public debate.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:48 PM (MjCfq)

135 I got your DNA right here. But first, you will release my sacral chakra.

Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2018 12:49 PM (bJ0w+)

136 Near as I can tell an non-scientific poll is generally more accurate than a scientific one.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2018 12:47 PM (r+sAi)


Non-scientific polls are 71.73% percent more accurate than scientific ones. It's science! Er, non-science!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:49 PM (MjCfq)

137 120 Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:30 PM (Z8j2x)
Plenty of false negative/false positive involved in medical testing; many tests are notorious for it. Doesn't have to mean anything nefarious is going on."

Yes, of course. It's a shame that one of the only ways to be sure is probably too cost-prohibitive to be possible for a private person - that is for the test to be re-run by an outfit that has no connection to the insurance company in question, and which also is kept from knowing any information about any previous results.

A true blind test.

as it is, from what Willow has said, I can't help but suspect that her insurance company decreed what the results had to be long before any actual tests were run - if they were even run at all.

When the system wants a piece of paper, and asks no hard questions about its origins, it's real easy for them to get that piece of paper.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 12:49 PM (V2Yro)

138 Near as I can tell an non-scientific poll is generally more accurate than a scientific one.

If you want a skewed poll just ask condescending questions:

Do you feel your lack of education makes you more likely to support a sexist, racist Republican candidate?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at February 11, 2018 12:49 PM (rdl6o)

139 I'm sure there is plenty of science behind this:


THURSDAY, Feb. 1, 2018 (HealthDay News) -- A
lawsuit working its way through California's courts could mean that
the Golden State's coffee
shops might have to post cancer
warnings for the beloved beverage.

Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 12:49 PM (weSWO)

140 Remember the Duke Lacrosse case where the prosecutor was using DNA from Crystal Magnum and neglected to note there was DNA from other parties. A young attorney for the Lacrosse players taught himself how to read the findings and picked up DNA from additional people.

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at February 11, 2018 12:50 PM (Vuaet)

141 wait until you start arguing philosophy.


******

I think, therefore I am (within 2.387 standard deviations from the mean) - a peer reviewed study.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:50 PM (wPiJc)

142 So my foray into forensic phrenology probably isn't worth the effort then?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 12:19 PM (9SkN+)

Dang.....guess I'll continue to be a dowser.

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2018 12:50 PM (0+nbW)

143 >>> 123 CAGW theory violates every tenet of the Scientific Every, Single. One.

It's not Climate Science. It's Climate Studies.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 12:42 PM (pV/54)

Ha! Similar to Wimmenz / Minority in the US / Marxist Designated Victim Group of the Week Studies?

Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at February 11, 2018 12:51 PM (UpyQ/)

144 @ Crazyjerseyguy.



I've looked it up on the net, but I was just wondering about
anyone's personal experience in the town. Always nice to get a local
perspective.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 12:23 PM (nAiYt)

I wish I could be of assistance, but I've never stayed in that area of NY. Hopefully someone will chime in. Good luck!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at February 11, 2018 12:51 PM (TPimP)

145
Is there a particular reason why some thought lead could be transformed into gold?

Are their properties similar, I mean?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 12:51 PM (rW4yT)

146 Is it too late to get some of these unjustly accused convicts vindicated and released in time for them to participate in the all-inclusive Winter Olympic Games?
Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:47 PM (wPiJc)



Speaking of science being settled on murderers, serious question, since I don't pay any attention to Olympics. Do they let people with no legs compete in winter events? Like speed skating and all that? Or even skiing?

Seems to me the blades that they use these days would render skaters and skiers with advantages, enough so that I think they would have a leg up on the legged competition.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2018 12:51 PM (Pz4pT)

147 13.3789 (+/- 1.7685 )angels can dance on the head of a pin.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:52 PM (wPiJc)

148
btw, the Elemental symbol for Soothsayer is So.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 12:52 PM (rW4yT)

149 "136 Near as I can tell an non-scientific poll is generally more accurate than a scientific one.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2018 12:47 PM (r+sAi)
Non-scientific polls are 71.73% percent more accurate than scientific ones. It's science! Er, non-science!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:49 PM"

Ha! You can't fool me with that trick, I know for a fact that 73.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 12:52 PM (V2Yro)

150
or is it Sr?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 12:52 PM (rW4yT)

151 eah... I'm not sure I'm buying it... the Article is
from The Nation, a rabid left-wing publication... The whole thing's
dramatized feel-casting and is squarely from the viewpoint that all
these guys in Prison are innocent victims caught in a rigged system...
It has a one or two valid points, but they get lost in the authors
overly florid, grandiose writing style...

Posted by: I smell something rotten at February 11, 2018 12:36 PM (iWzUm)


Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while. They are correct in this instance.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 12:52 PM (FTXAT)

152 CAGW theory violates every tenet of the Scientific Every, Single. One.

It's not Climate Science. It's Climate Studies.

-
The science is not so much settled as beaten to death.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)

153
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:41 PM (MjCfq)

Quite right, but are you going to deprive me of my little joke?

An X-ray structure of a compound I made in grad school showed two molybdenum atoms bridged by three fluorides and right in the middle a perfect hydrogen atom. My boss wrote up a communication for the Journal of the American Chemical Society on the first hydride in a pentavalent cage as well the first linear P-Mo-H-Mo-P structure.

Just one problem. The elemental analysis didn't agree with the formulation. We agreed we were fooled by a fortuitous overlap of electron density that looked exactly like a hydride. We immediately pulled the paper before it got to the review stage.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 12:53 PM (kjVQQ)

154 Isaac Newton, arguably the greatest scientist ever

Oh, horse hockey.

Posted by: The Cult of Zombie Nikola Tesla at February 11, 2018 12:54 PM (Tyii7)

155 When I worked in pharmaceuticals, I'd have a really hard time getting the heads of the department renewing the service agreements to calibrate the equipment because of the cost.

I once worked with a biotech startup that pissed away three months and a million dollars when they dispensed with positive controls on their assays. You know, to "save time." They couldn't get someone else's method to yield a product in their coupled assay.

Finally someone did the obvious experiment, and spiked the assay with the geniune product, and found - mirabile dictu - that one of the components of their coupled assay was gefickt.

Sure saved a lot of time not doing the positive control.

(God help them if I'd been their research director; it's the kind of mistake first year grad students make.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:54 PM (MjCfq)

156 There's nothing in Ardsley. All houses. If you have a car go over to Dobbs Ferry on one side, or Central Avenue on the other. You can find anything you want for food. Plenty of pub bars

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 12:54 PM (pV/54)

157 CAGW theory violates every tenet of the Scientific Every, Single. One.

It's not Climate Science. It's Climate Studies.

-
The science is not so much settled as beaten to death.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 12:52 PM (+y/Ru)


Call it Climatism. A religion/mythology.

That's what it is.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2018 12:56 PM (Pz4pT)

158 Science is the process by which the right left answer is arrived at.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 12:56 PM (+y/Ru)

159 Speaking of dowsing, when I was a young boy, in one of my several previous lives, I was working with a dowser who could find water, and I wanted to try my hand at it. So I took the instruments and tried to 'find water'.

Nothing happened.

Until the dowser grasped my hands in his own and my thoughts began sinking down through the earth in search of water, and something like electricity ran through my hands and I dropped the dowsing instruments and never touched them again.

"Yes," the dowser said, "there is water down there."

True story.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 11, 2018 12:56 PM (ECDXs)

160 Just one problem. The elemental analysis didn't agree with the formulation. We agreed we were fooled by a fortuitous overlap of electron density that looked exactly like a hydride. We immediately pulled the paper before it got to the review stage.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 12:53 PM (kjVQQ)


My man. I'm amazed that you could detect by elemental analysis the absence of one hydrogen atom in a heavy metal binuclear complex.

What caused the artifact? Was there some disorder in the crystal, or large thermal ellipsoids somewhere?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:56 PM (MjCfq)

161
That which does not kill us makes us regress toward the mean.

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2018 12:57 PM (EzdLW)

162 I've looked it up on the net, but I was just wondering about anyone's personal experience in the town. Always nice to get a local perspective.
Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 12:23 PM
~~~~~

Ardsley is a very nice town, not too far to travel (many commute to NYC jobs) but far enough removed from NYC. A pleasant, upper middle class suburb of single family homes. I doubt if you could find a home there for less than $500g, so that gives you some idea.

I played for a pipe and drum corps out of one of their local pubs many years ago. There were quite a few Irish pubs there at the time.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 11, 2018 12:57 PM (HiDrR)

163 Wardrobe malfunction.
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These things happen

Posted by: Suzan Pevensie at February 11, 2018 12:57 PM (XQvuQ)

164 135 I got your DNA right here. But first, you will release my sacral chakra.

That is like best in show except you replace humans in place of dogs. Male remains stud female bit__. Male means a jacket, its the AG science way.

Myself more faith in deceased horoscope readers predictions. Astrology is a science, right?


Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 12:57 PM (7ZiDC)

165 They stamped it, didn't they? Those damn Gideons.

Posted by: Jim Phelps-Comey at February 11, 2018 12:58 PM (/FL4O)

166 I'm amazed that you could detect by elemental analysis the absence of one hydrogen atom in a heavy metal binuclear complex.

This.

Posted by: Maxine Waters at February 11, 2018 12:58 PM (Tyii7)

167 Is there a particular reason why some thought lead could be transformed into gold?

Are their properties similar, I mean?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 12:51 PM (rW4yT)


Density, softness, and low melting point might suggest some relation between them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:58 PM (MjCfq)

168 Isaac Newton, arguably the greatest scientist ever


My money's on the guy who first figured out how to make fire by rubbing sticks together.

Posted by: pep at February 11, 2018 12:58 PM (LAe3v)

169
It is pretty funny that so many people, scientists! even, believe in CAGW considering not one of their stupid scientific! predictions ever come true.

They are getting a little bit smarter though, they now predict 100 years out so we can't call them on their bullshit.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2018 12:58 PM (r+sAi)

170 145 Is there a particular reason why some thought lead could be transformed into gold?
Are their properties similar, I mean?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 12:51 PM

Both are quite heavy metals, heavier than any other metals available in antiquity (nobody knew about Uranium yet) Lead is actually slightly heavier than gold, and both are fairly soft in their pure form (which is why you will almost never see 100% pure gold)

So this led many to think that there wasn't a lot of difference between the two. Outside of valence shells, atomic weight, and general reactivity, I guess there isn't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 12:59 PM (V2Yro)

171 There is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to medical tests, but try explaining that to someone whose bills are paid by someone else.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:24 PM (wPiJc)



Representative of the NHS I see.

Posted by: Concerned at February 11, 2018 01:00 PM (l513m)

172 My money's on the guy who first figured out how to make fire by rubbing sticks together.


*******


Well, if we're talking scientific method and reproducibility, a better choice might be the second guy who made fire by rubbing sticks together.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 01:01 PM (wPiJc)

173 It is pretty funny that so many people, scientists! even, believe in CAGW considering not one of their stupid scientific! predictions ever come true.

-
Same reason people believe that if Trump is impeached Hillz will be president: because they want it so much.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 01:01 PM (+y/Ru)

174 My money's on the guy who first figured out how to make fire by rubbing sticks together. "

Me ugg make wheel...

Snort.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:02 PM (7LY+6)

175 My science instructor in college always said there wasn't that much difference between a piece of coal and a diamond.

Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 01:02 PM (weSWO)

176 Just one problem. The elemental analysis didn't agree with the formulation. We agreed we were fooled by a fortuitous overlap of electron density that looked exactly like a hydride. We immediately pulled the paper before it got to the review stage.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 12:53 PM (kjVQQ)


What about the NMR?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:02 PM (MjCfq)

177 My science instructor in college"

Was an idiot, then, much like the writers/editors of the linked piece.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:03 PM (7LY+6)

178
My man. I'm amazed that you could detect by elemental analysis the absence of one hydrogen atom in a heavy metal binuclear complex.

Yes, it was a big, fat molecule (MW about 800) but the formulation for that structure was quite different. In a way, I'm rather proud of this. I was the one who told my boss it wouldn't work and to his credit he immediately agreed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 01:03 PM (kjVQQ)

179 I see some director is having doubt about the #MeToo movement and doesn't like the and witchhunt, hysteria and and lives ruined by unproven accusations.

Women never lie about rape or sexual harassment. It is science and if you doubt them it you are misogynist AND ant--science

Boo-hoo. This is their rules. Suck it up.

Posted by: Ripley at February 11, 2018 01:03 PM (MxEKc)

180 It is pretty funny that so many people, scientists! even, believe in
CAGW considering not one of their stupid scientific! predictions ever
come true.


I got a kick out of the recent resurrection of the island of Tuvalu. You know, it was going to sink beneath the waves because of AGW, but it's actually growing. Talk about an inconvenient truth.

Posted by: pep at February 11, 2018 01:04 PM (LAe3v)

181 Snugging down the conjectures, one generates one or more hypotheses,
which are testable versions of conjectures, then conducts the relevant
tests, and reviews the hypotheses in light of the results, modifying or
rejecting the hypotheses in consequence.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 12:41 PM (MjCfq)


My son won a science project competition, in elementary school, when he made an hypotheses which was disproved by his tests.

Posted by: Javems at February 11, 2018 01:04 PM (luPrW)

182 My money's on the guy who first figured out how to make fire by rubbing sticks together.
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He's certainly my hero.

Posted by: V Frankenstein at February 11, 2018 01:04 PM (XQvuQ)

183 The guy who wrote the paper on rubbing two sticks together to make fire got all the credit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 01:05 PM (9SkN+)

184 109
Westminster starts tomorrow. Judging Best in Show is a task given to the most prestigious judges in the dog show world. What no one realizes is that you could pull in anyone off the street and have them point to one of the seven group winners and they would not be too wrong.

Someone once said, only partly tongue-in-cheek, that judges should start by doing Best in Show, move on to judging Variety Groups and only then, when they acquire enough experience, start judging individual breeds.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 12:36 PM (kjVQQ)

Is Mrs. Hadrian going to be at the show? We will be happy to scream at the television for her to win if she is. Westminster is one of my all time favorite things to watch.

Posted by: moki at February 11, 2018 01:05 PM (V+V48)

185 >>>Speaking of dowsing, when I was a young boy, in one of my several
previous lives, I was working with a dowser who could find water, and I
wanted to try my hand at it.<<<

I was dowsing some underground power lines one time when I thought, "Why the fuck doesn't this work when I'm looking for gold?"

I found the power lines.

Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2018 01:05 PM (bJ0w+)

186 Was an idiot, then, much like the writers/editors of the linked piece.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:03 PM (7LY+6)

But, but he had a PhD, so he had to be right!

Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 01:05 PM (weSWO)

187
I don't know about these scientists! these days, one told me he broke the lead in his pencil.

I laughed and said you know that's not lead, it's gold!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2018 01:06 PM (r+sAi)

188 heavy metal binuclear complex.

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You: binuclear

Hillz: sell nuclear

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 01:06 PM (+y/Ru)

189 yeah i'm calculating their calculating of point of diminishing returns.

sad.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:06 PM (Z8j2x)

190 Just looked up company job listing. Probably be working at the Ardsley Shopping Plaza on Sawmill River Rd. The big drugstore chain there. Think it will be a three or four week job. Unless of course, my company changes its mind and sends me somewhere else. Its been known to happen, and at the last minute, too.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 01:06 PM (nAiYt)

191 113 I think I drank too much coffee.

===

drink some orange juice
Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 11, 2018 12:39 PM (z2W2E)
--------
All we have are mangoes. Will that work?

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 01:06 PM (Sfs6o)

192 My son won a science project competition, in elementary school, when he made an hypotheses which was disproved by his tests.


Posted by: Javems


I typically give my highest science fair grades to the kids who point out why their experiment didn't work, or even better, that although the experiment "worked", it wasn't really adequate to support the hypothesis because it wasn't properly designed. The real winners then tell me what they'd do differently the next time to make it valid.

Posted by: pep at February 11, 2018 01:07 PM (LAe3v)

193 "175 My science instructor in college always said there wasn't that much difference between a piece of coal and a diamond."

Vernor Vinge and others have theorized that one of the results of 2nd generation supernovas, ie stars that contain a lot of heavier elements, not just H and He, will be a signficant number of asteroids/planetoids floating in deep space that will be made of pure diamond.

They think that Diamond may in fact turn out to be one of the most common compounds in the universe.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 01:08 PM (V2Yro)

194 If falls outside of the hard sciences. Chemistry/physics/engineering/computers. Chances are that it is not science. And much within sciences is not science(see much in medicine/medical sciences). Quackery abounds.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at February 11, 2018 01:08 PM (0OmEj)

195 pep, way cool.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:08 PM (Z8j2x)

196 This has been a developing scandal for years

Fire and tooth-bite analysis have both been rocked by bad science.

Posted by: ArthurK at February 11, 2018 01:08 PM (AHElI)

197 All we have are mangoes. Will that work?


*********


Mango just pawn in game of life.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 01:08 PM (wPiJc)

198 So, police made a big bust at a cock fight.

I'd like to see the forensics on that.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 11, 2018 12:00 PM (0tfLf)

Wouldn't it be more likely to get a big bust at a boobeh fight?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 01:08 PM (Dbv1R)

199 All we have are mangoes. Will that work?
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 01:06 PM (Sfs6o)



Do you have a lime? Do you have a coconut?

Posted by: Harry Nilsson at February 11, 2018 01:08 PM (9SkN+)

200 But, but he had a PhD, so he had to be right!

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Ph.D college professor flunks student because Ph.D doesn't think Australia is a real country.

http://bzfd.it/2G3aus0

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 01:09 PM (+y/Ru)

201 183
The guy who wrote the paper on rubbing two sticks together to make fire got all the credit.


Yeah, yeah, I used oak and you used hickory. Big whoop.

Posted by: The guy who wrote the paper on rubbing two sticks together at February 11, 2018 01:09 PM (LAe3v)

202 and mix it all up.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:09 PM (Z8j2x)

203 I found the power lines.

Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2018 01:05 PM

--

What instrument did you use? Backhoe?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 11, 2018 01:09 PM (ECDXs)

204 191 comments on crap forensics and nobody mentioned the quack expert witnesses in the Zimmerman trial.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 11, 2018 01:09 PM (Eu5eZ)

205 Mango just pawn in game of life."

Aw,

Mango straight!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:09 PM (7LY+6)

206 This discussion of X-ray crystallography should give pause to those who believe scientific results without question.

Few things are harder science than an X-ray crystal structure. There it is, a picture of the molecule/complex. Seems pretty hard to argue with, doesn't it?

Yet some crystallographers have made part of their careers on debunking flawed crystal structures. Structures refined in the wrong space group, the wrong unit cell, spurious piles of electron density, that sort of thing.

I once reviewed a paper that reported a crystal structure that included a four-coordinate carbonate. Huh? I suggested it might be a borate instead, which would make a buttload more sense chemically.

The authors laughed me off. "We didn't put any borate in there."

"Yeah, but you used Pyrex glassware, didn't you? And that is borosilicate. Vicinal diols coordinate like a champ to borate, and it wouldn't be the first time that had happened."

Turns out - it was borate. Oopsie.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:10 PM (MjCfq)

207 They think that Diamond may in fact turn out to be one of the most common compounds in the universe.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 01:08 PM (V2Yro)


BITE. YOUR. TONGUE!!!!!

Posted by: DeBeers Consolidated Mining at February 11, 2018 01:10 PM (9SkN+)

208 ya know i watch all these bright minds, and realize all it takes is a boob to bring them down.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:10 PM (Z8j2x)

209 Slap was first.

Posted by: golfman at February 11, 2018 01:11 PM (48QDY)

210 Ph.D college professor flunks student because Ph.D doesn't think Australia is a real country.

http://bzfd.it/2G3aus0
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 01:09 PM (+y/Ru)


Sociologist.

I say no more.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:11 PM (MjCfq)

211 191 comments on crap forensics and nobody mentioned the quack expert witnesses in the Zimmerman trial.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 11, 2018 01:09 PM (Eu5eZ)



We wanted to duck the issue.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 01:11 PM (9SkN+)

212 I once reviewed a paper that reported a crystal structure that included a
four-coordinate carbonate. Huh? I suggested it might be a borate
instead, which would make a buttload more sense chemically.



Well, duh. Who doesn't know THAT, eh?

Posted by: Justin Trudeau at February 11, 2018 01:11 PM (LAe3v)

213 The guy who wrote the paper on rubbing two sticks together to make fire got all the credit.

Yeah, yeah, I used oak and you used hickory. Big whoop.
Posted by: The guy who wrote the paper


********


Hey, hey, hey guys. Can't we have a civil discussion without all this friction?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 01:12 PM (wPiJc)

214 If everyone will stand and we will have a minute of silence for:

Rapper Jay-Z brought his star power to a Florida peace rally in memory
of slain teenager Trayvon Martin, who would have turned 23 this month...

Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 01:12 PM (weSWO)

215 In my town a case made national news several times, local guy appeared with Greta once, Dateline or some such did a couple segments on it ... a (now former) asst DA was brought to trial (after 8 year delay) for murdering his wife with the kids in the house.

Seemed guilty as hell, and imo the local lawyer "cabal" all knew it. But the big evidence was rigor had set in already, while the perp's story was that she died while he was out of the house, so dead under an hour when cops arrived (which he didn't even call directly, he called his boss, who was DA? or someone up the chain).

The autopsy guy (Dr. Baden) that appeared on Fox a lot was one witness, said she had been dead probably 8 hours, another concurred. But the defense found some guy to say "meh, who knows, could have been an hour". Sure, a never heard of case of instant onset rigor.

What happened was (it seems) he smothered her with a pillow at say midnight, but left the pillow over her head, with her arms on top of the pillow. In the morning he removed the pillow, rigor had set in, arms wouldn't go down.

But after a mistrial, he was set free after a second trial, but did remain locked up for one year. It is reminiscent of OJ (and his ego) because this guy was a star football player at U of I in his day, captain of the team and all.

So forensics even when they seem airtight, are still not trusted, when the connected person is on trial. I'm sure it works in reverse, where CIA/FBI can fabricate whatever evidence they need.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 11, 2018 01:12 PM (bT8Z4)

216 They think that Diamond may in fact turn out to be one of the most common compounds in the universe.

This is reason the Beatles sang "lucy in the sky with diamonds".

98.6% chance anyway.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2018 01:13 PM (r+sAi)

217 Forensic science hasn't been doing so well in Massachusetts in recent years.

Some woman went to jail a couple years back for fudging results.
Posted by: fluffy at February 11, 2018 12:19 PM

Annie Dookhan. Caused no end of trouble. Wound up getting a lot of really bad eggs out of prison. With predictable results. Not to mention the cost to the already screwed over taxpayers....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2018 01:13 PM (QpTNr)

218 " Ardsley Shopping Plaza on Sawmill River Rd"

Nice suburban strip mall. Scaramella's is a good Italian restaurant nearby. For a long stint, explore Dobbs Ferry and over on Central Avenue. There's little in Ardsley itself

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 01:13 PM (pV/54)

219 194 If falls outside of the hard sciences. Chemistry/physics/engineering/computers. Chances are that it is not science. And much within sciences is not science(see much in medicine/medical sciences). Quackery abounds.
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at February 11, 2018 01:08 PM (0OmEj)


This.

The problem with biomedical research is reproducibility (and often poor experimental design, sometimes perforce because of the nature of the study, e.g., ethical considerations).

It's all too easy to write off irreproducible results as resulting from "biological variation," and to publish anyway.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:13 PM (MjCfq)

220 back for fudging results. "

Packed the jails, huh?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:14 PM (7LY+6)

221 >>>What instrument did you use? Backhoe?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse<<<

Two bent copper rods. And a locator.

Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2018 01:15 PM (bJ0w+)

222 Stormin' Norman Schwartzkopf's dad was the
prosecutor in the Lindberg kidnapping case against Bruno Richard
Hauptman. He has been accused of using fake science to "prove" that the
homemade ladder used in the kidnapping was made from wood from
Hauptman's attic.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 12:14 PM (+y/Ru)

That should actually be pretty easy to prove, or disprove. Patterns of saw cuts, match-up of grain patterns, perhaps even sawmill stamps on the lumber.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 01:15 PM (Dbv1R)

223 "185 >>>Speaking of dowsing, when I was a young boy, in one of my several previous lives, I was working with a dowser who could find water, and I wanted to try my hand at it.

I believe dowsing can work for shallow water and even shallow oil deposits, because shallow level geology is usually indicated by surface layout (it's not hard to find geological faults, even small ones once you know what to look for) And I think successful dowsers have developed a good intuitive knowledge of spots to put a well with a high likelihood of success, based on subtle surface cues.

Sean Spencer was far from the first one to make good use of the "Psychic" trick.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 01:15 PM (V2Yro)

224
Jay,
The final paper is:
Journal of the American Chemical Society, 105 (1983) 7302.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 01:15 PM (kjVQQ)

225 Well, duh. Who doesn't know THAT, eh?
Posted by: Justin Trudeau at February 11, 2018 01:11 PM (LAe3v)


The authors of the paper, for starters.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:15 PM (MjCfq)

226 Two bent copper rods."

Shocking.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:16 PM (7LY+6)

227 We wanted to duck the issue.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 01:11 PM

Fowl puns this morning.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2018 01:16 PM (QpTNr)

228
Political Science -- all politics, zero science

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 01:16 PM (pNxlR)

229 Jay,

The final paper is:

Journal of the American Chemical Society, 105 (1983) 7302.



Posted by: Hadrian


No real chemist types out the full title. It's JACS. Burn the imposter!

Posted by: pep at February 11, 2018 01:17 PM (LAe3v)

230 Rapper Jay-Z brought his star power to a Florida peace rally in memory
of slain teenager Trayvon Martin, who would have turned 23 this month...
Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 01:12 PM (weSWO)

23 and in prison for twenty to life for killing some dude he thought a queer checking him out.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 11, 2018 01:18 PM (Eu5eZ)

231 Two bent copper rods."

Shocking.



******


Snort. Thread has come full circle.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 01:18 PM (wPiJc)

232 Rapper Jay-Z brought his star power to a Florida peace rally in memory

of slain teenager Trayvon Martin, who would have turned 23 this month...
---
Well, assuming someone else hadn't shot him for breaking into their house.

Posted by: Methos at February 11, 2018 01:19 PM (XQvuQ)

233 "Political Science -- all politics, zero science"

Go even farther - we say "Chemistry", not chemical science. We say "Mathematics", not mathematical science.

If you have to shout "SCIENCE" in the very label of your specialty, odds are it ain't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 01:19 PM (V2Yro)

234 Take 100 barrels, all rifled on the same milling machine on the same day with the same cutting head, and fire one hundred bullets from each. Collect the bullets, numbered to the sequence in which they were fired from the constantly heating barrel - and mix them randomly

The FBI forensic guys would assert that they could:
Confidently match each bullet to the correct barrel, and perhaps even assert the order in which they were fired.

...And could confidently exclude the 100 bullets put into the mixture that were fired from a barrel not included in the set.

Think they ever did a experiment even this simplistic?
yeah. SURE they did. same day they did their forensic bite mark control experiment.

Posted by: retropox at February 11, 2018 01:19 PM (PD4wl)

235
Stop the discussion! Somebody said boob.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2018 01:19 PM (r+sAi)

236 Trayvon Martin, who would have turned 23 this month..."

We'll be serving a mix of cough syrup and skittles. On ice.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:20 PM (7LY+6)

237 Jay, The final paper is: Journal of the American Chemical Society, 105 (1983) 7302.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 01:15 PM (kjVQQ)


Thanks. I'll check it out online, if I can get to it. I've let my subscription lapse in my dotage.

One of the co-authors of the "Advanced Inorganic Chemistry" - I know you'll get the reference - gave an entire seminar to us once on a misassigned crystal structure much like yours. The only tipoff: the thermal ellipsoids on a pendant ligand decreased in size on moving away from the metal atom. Hmmm.

(For non-cognoscenti: one would expect atoms to wave around more the further away they were from where the ligand was tethered, not the other way around. Very subtle. No wonder they missed it at first.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:20 PM (MjCfq)

238 Snort. Thread has come full circle"

What, you expected a tangent?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:21 PM (7LY+6)

239 They think that Diamond may in fact turn out to be one of the most common compounds in the universe.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 01:08 PM (V2Yro)



BITE. YOUR. TONGUE!!!!!

Posted by: DeBeers Consolidated Mining at February 11, 2018 01:10 PM (9SkN+)

=======================
That might make a fun premise for a movie - asteroid that is one big diamond crystal hits earth, famous scientist finds it, Big Diamond sends hit team after scientist and her lovely daughter, hilarity ensues.

Posted by: mrp at February 11, 2018 01:21 PM (Pqytn)

240 The only tipoff: the thermal ellipsoids on a pendant ligand decreased in size on moving away from the metal atom. Hmmm.


I know, right?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 01:21 PM (9SkN+)

241 234 Take 100 barrels, all rifled on the same milling machine on the same day with the same cutting head, and fire one hundred bullets from each. Collect the bullets, numbered to the sequence in which they were fired from the constantly heating barrel - and mix them randomly

The FBI forensic guys would assert that they could:
Confidently match each bullet to the correct barrel, and perhaps even assert the order in which they were fired.

...And could confidently exclude the 100 bullets put into the mixture that were fired from a barrel not included in the set.

Think they ever did a experiment even this simplistic?
yeah. SURE they did. same day they did their forensic bite mark control experiment.

Posted by: retropox at February 11, 2018 01:19 PM (PD4wl)
-------
Gun thread!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 01:21 PM (Sfs6o)

242 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 01:09 PM (+y/Ru)

Elite institution there.....bet you could get a top government job with a degree.

Posted by: BignJames at February 11, 2018 01:21 PM (0+nbW)

243 What the hell is this? The Boron Horde?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 01:21 PM (wPiJc)

244 Remember that guy was a Bite scientist and he matched up bite marks on victims. The guy would take the Defendants mold of his teeth then he would use that mold on the victim and presto guilty. The only reason he was caught it that one bite mark was impossible to make.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 11, 2018 01:21 PM (dKiJG)

245 Trayvon Martin, who would have turned 23 this month..."

We'll be serving a mix of cough syrup and skittles. On ice.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:20 PM (7LY+6)


With a Arizona Ice Tea chaser...

Hey!

Who switched out my Ice Tea with watermelon juice? WTF!?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 11, 2018 01:22 PM (Eu5eZ)

246 Go even farther - we say "Chemistry", not chemical science. We say "Mathematics", not mathematical science.

If you have to shout "SCIENCE" in the very label of your specialty, odds are it ain't.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 01:19 PM (V2Yro)


Absolutely right. Anyone who has to append "science" to his studies is evincing some serious - and probably well-founded - defensiveness.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:22 PM (MjCfq)

247 243 What the hell is this? The Boron Horde?
Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 01:21 PM (wPiJc)


Sorry. Didn't mean to boron and on.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:22 PM (MjCfq)

248 We're drowning. *sob*

Posted by: Uncle Al's Anthropomorphic Polar Bears at February 11, 2018 01:22 PM (Tyii7)

249 I like Italian food. There's an Italian Deli next to my job here in Walnut Creek CA called Genova's. They make great sandwiches. Some would say they are a bit pricey, thirteen bucks for sandwich and a drink, but fast food is going to cost just as much and not be half as good.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 01:23 PM (nAiYt)

250 Boron the bayou!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 01:23 PM (Sfs6o)

251 Oh, good grief.
There is nothing human, including science, that is immune from human weakness, be it emotional, ideological, moral, or intellectual. Wow.

From this we go to "Forensic science is bunk!!!"

Well, I guess it's always useful to remind peeps not to accept things without careful scrutiny, to have a critical mind.
Above all, get a defense attorney with an IQ bigger than his shoe size.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:23 PM (0jtPF)

252 If you want to see real science, check this out:

https://tinyurl.com/ycxa4l2m

It's the original publication by Watson and Crick of their findings about DNA. It's been called a 900 word prose poem. In retrospect it's momentous. But the writing is classic British understatement.

A Structure for Deoxyribose Nucleic Acid
We wish to suggest a structure for the salt
of deoxyribose nucleic acid (D.N.A,). This
structure has novel features which are of considerable
biological interest.

It has not escaped our notice that the specific
pairing we have postulated immediately suggests a
possible copying mechanism for the genetic material.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 01:23 PM (pV/54)

253
So, police made a big girthy bust at a cock fight.


Phrasing!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 01:24 PM (pNxlR)

254 But... CSI!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 01:24 PM (ycWCI)

255 Just remember these are the same folks using methods that return positive marijuana test results for used green tea leaves, crack cocaine results for artisinal soap, and meth results for donut glaze, FFS.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 01:24 PM (NWiLs)

256 No real chemist types out the full title. It's JACS. Burn the imposter!
Posted by: pep at February 11, 2018 01:17 PM (LAe3v)


LOL!

I think he was just being inclusive there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:24 PM (MjCfq)

257 That might make a fun premise for a movie - asteroid that is one big diamond crystal hits earth, famous scientist finds it, Big Diamond sends hit team after scientist and her lovely daughter, hilarity ensues.
Posted by: mrp at February 11, 2018 01:21 PM (Pqytn)

Being nothing more than a shiny lump of coal, the diamond asteroids are fully combusted and converted to carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

>>> Diamonds cause global warming.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 11, 2018 01:25 PM (Eu5eZ)

258 =======================
That might make a fun premise for a movie - asteroid that is one big diamond crystal hits earth, famous scientist finds it, Big Diamond sends hit team after scientist and her lovely daughter, hilarity ensues.
Posted by: mrp at February 11, 2018 01:21 PM

I can't recall the title, but I once read a short story, the premise of which was that our hero discovered a vast sheet of diamond in Siberia that had been created by a meteorite strike. Lost to a minor earthquake shortly afterward, ruining his commercial plans for it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2018 01:25 PM (QpTNr)

259 What the hell is this? The Boron Horde?"

20 Mule Team! Giddyaup!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:25 PM (7LY+6)

260 I thought Vic discovered fire.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 11, 2018 01:25 PM (GzDYP)

261 Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 01:23 PM (pV/54)

Wonderful. Thanks.

I haven't read that paper in years.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:25 PM (MjCfq)

262 Above all, get a defense attorney with an IQ bigger than his shoe size.
----
So, AlextheChick?

Posted by: Methos at February 11, 2018 01:25 PM (XQvuQ)

263
Damning with faint praseodymium

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 01:26 PM (pNxlR)

264
Wait so you're saying gun makers don't use a different milling machine for each barrel. Liar!

Posted by: FBI at February 11, 2018 01:26 PM (r+sAi)

265 If you have to shout "SCIENCE" in the very label of your specialty, odds are it ain't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 01:19 PM (V2Yro)


PolSci here. I agree. Amusing story: I work with a group of undergraduates at a nearby state university. A professional organization that I'm a member of sponsors, in conjunction with a major aerospace company, a couple of scholarships for Junior and Senior undergrads in STEM fields. I noted the availability of the scholarships to the group. One of the guys wanted to know if his major qualified. He's majoring in Exercise Science.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 11, 2018 01:26 PM (yzxic)

266
Jay, the paper is based on an original misformulation by another author of "Advanced Inorganic Chemistry". The one that won the Nobel Prize.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 01:26 PM (kjVQQ)

267 Above all, get a defense attorney with an IQ bigger than his shoe size."

Did you read the linked article? Said defense atty is unable to keep the mouth shut, even after all these years.

A common affliction amongst the legal beagles I've met...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:27 PM (7LY+6)

268 Apropos the firing sequence, I'm reading the 3rd volume of Shelby Foote's Civil War. In it, he describes that barrel wear was in fact a problem, so they'd increase the diameter of the shells to be fired from a specific cannon to make up for barrel wear. Occasionally, someone got them out of sequence, with unpleasant results.

Posted by: pep at February 11, 2018 01:27 PM (LAe3v)

269 Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 12:01 PM (nAiYt)

I grew up there!

It is a small town, about 5,000 people. Recently because of the quality of the schools there has been a huge amount of building, so there are houses stacked upon houses.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2018 01:27 PM (wYseH)

270 Above all, get a defense attorney with an IQ bigger than his shoe size.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:23 PM (0jtPF)


You need the same for the judge (Daubert and all that) and the jury (try not to get an OJ Simpson-type jury).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:27 PM (MjCfq)

271 Boron? Did someone say boron?

Posted by: Herbert C. Brown at February 11, 2018 01:27 PM (PD4wl)

272 36 "Sorry to break it to you ma'am, but your child has fallen from the 59.04th percentile to the 58..65th percentile in a mere 7.274 months. He won't be getting into an Ivy League school now. You might as well just fall on your sword and admit you are an unfit parent!"
Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:13 PM (wPiJc)

Dr. Procrustes, paging Dr. Procrustes! Dr. Procrustes to exam room three!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 01:28 PM (NWiLs)

273 I thought Vic discovered fire."

Nah. Vic told that guy to get off of his lawn.

(so yeah, Vic invented lawns)

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:28 PM (7LY+6)

274 260 I thought Vic discovered fire.
Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 11, 2018 01:25 PM (GzDYP)

His neighbor. Vic told him obsession with this new fangled nonsense would lead to lost jobs for Ugg and Nak, who offered cave to cave fur warming services (They would wrap themselves in the furs to get them warm before you bedded down.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 01:28 PM (ycWCI)

275 255 Just remember these are the same folks using methods that return positive marijuana test results for used green tea leaves, crack cocaine results for artisinal soap, and meth results for donut glaze, FFS.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 01:24 PM (NWiLs)

The obvious solution is to ban green tea leaves, artisanal soap and donut glaze.

/s

Posted by: Surfperch, possible RUSSIAN BOT at February 11, 2018 01:30 PM (QUtQ6)

276 Jay, the paper is based on an original misformulation by another author of "Advanced Inorganic Chemistry". The one that won the Nobel Prize.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 01:26 PM (kjVQQ)


Ah so deska. My story involved the one who didn't. In fairness, when you publish that many papers, and are that busy/prominent, eventually a duff will sneak through.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:30 PM (MjCfq)

277
Data will confess to practically anything, given sufficient torture.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 01:30 PM (pNxlR)

278 You know how they have a day without immigrants to try to make a point in which they fail. I wish they would have a day without law enforcement. I'd bet the point would be made.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 01:30 PM (2DOZq)

279 They would wrap themselves in the furs to get them warm before you bedded down."

Their main competitors were Three Dog Night...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:31 PM (7LY+6)

280 7: Good old FBI. Shocking

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 01:31 PM (5gaNQ)

281 "crack cocaine results for artisinal soap"

Puts my grandmother's little soaps in a dish thing in a whole new light.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 01:31 PM (ycWCI)

282 Still can't beat the entrails of a sheep.

Posted by: Feudal Bureau of Investigation at February 11, 2018 01:32 PM (oVJmc)

283 271 Boron? Did someone say boron?
Posted by: Herbert C. Brown at February 11, 2018 01:27 PM (PD4wl)


Oh God. Can the non-classical carbonium ion feud be far behind?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:32 PM (MjCfq)

284 255---....meth results for donut glaze, FFS.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 01:24 PM (NWiLs)
-----------------------
Hey! Close enough!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:32 PM (0jtPF)

285 Last century I had a sports and drinking friend, liberal guy that did some bio research testing. I remember him being upset that his higher ups used his research to say something, which he felt his results in no way said at all.

But doing the testing is the important part. "Studies show", but as with Mann and global warming, they like to hide the raw data I suppose.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 11, 2018 01:32 PM (bT8Z4)

286 Data will confess to practically anything, given sufficient torture."

How? Did they put the "feelings" chipset in him first?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:32 PM (7LY+6)

287 246: Social Science

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 01:32 PM (5gaNQ)

288 One of the guys wanted to know if his major qualified. He's majoring in Exercise Science.


Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer


It's not an unreasonablquestion, depending on how they approach the subject. If all they're doing is handing out jockstraps, then no, but if they're studying the human body's response to particular exercises under carefully designed parameters, it could be.

Posted by: pep at February 11, 2018 01:33 PM (LAe3v)

289 Still can't beat the entrails of a sheep."

Drown her. Or not. Never really clear on how that was supposed to work, but that was a feature, not a bug...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:34 PM (7LY+6)

290 From this we go to "Forensic science is bunk.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:23 PM (0jtPF)

or back to the science is only as good as its technicians.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:34 PM (Z8j2x)

291 pep

At least JACS is a top tier journal.

I once had to get a cited reference from "Proceedings of the Lima Peru Chemical Society".

The only ILL source of that paper was the British Museum. A lot of bother for little added.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 01:35 PM (hyuyC)

292
It is not so much the we (conservatives generally) are overly critical, its just that so much science! these days turns out not to be.

I am more likely to believe science done to make a profit (say steroids to win athletics) than science done to earn a grant.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2018 01:35 PM (r+sAi)

293 Why are we focusing on a leftist article trying to discredit the police?

Yeah, forensic 'science" isn't actual "science" in the classic sense -- they just use the term as a hoity-toity label. But that doesn't mean that forensics is all bogus. The linked article is just anohter in an long series of lefty attempts to undermine the legal system in the US by finding that ONE rare exception where there was a questionable jury decision based on non-conclusive forensics. But that is standard leftist ploy -- arguing against the death penalty by trying to find the one case in a thousand where there is still a smidgen of doubt about the guilt of a convicted death row inmate.

Truth is, 98%-99% of the time, forensic evidence in the courtroom is solid, correct evidence. Fingerprints -- very hard to mess up any more. Borderline impossible to have a false match, actually.

Ballistics -- again, you can match the firing-pin marks or the barrel-rifling to the bullet or shell with near 100% accuracy.

DNA matching -- now that actually IS "science." Don't be like Jonny Cochran -- DNA forensics is right every time except in the most bizarre fluky circumstances.

Etc. etc. etc.

It's not necessary to conduct scientific expeirments for a field to call itself "science." It's only necessary that you use the advancements of science correctly. If forensics uses DNA science to produce results, then I see no problem in letting them use the term "forensic science." it is not necessary for every coroner's lab technician to be Galileo.

Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2018 01:35 PM (42M22)

294 My son used to call his sister a boron.
I think it was a contraction of 'boring moron.'

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:35 PM (0jtPF)

295 False positives for Russian Collusion up 3000%

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 11, 2018 01:36 PM (oVJmc)

296 I once had to get a cited reference from "Proceedings of the Lima Peru Chemical Society".

The only ILL source of that paper was the British Museum. A lot of bother for little added.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 01:35 PM (hyuyC)


We used to joke about the "Proceedings of the Bulgarian Institute of Scatalogy," which is probably pretty much in the same class.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:36 PM (MjCfq)

297 If you get the chance their is a YouTube video of a Defense attorney's press conference where he takes the portable drug tests that the cops use and he tests the podium and it comes up positive for drugs, he does several other objects all come up positive. Scary as hell.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 11, 2018 01:37 PM (dKiJG)

298 if they're studying the human body's response to particular exercises under carefully designed parameters"

Yeah,....

No.

It's the same as the "weather guys" at the WashPost - a couple have "meteorological" degrees that sound great - until one goes back and looks at the various school's catalogs and finds a distinct lack of, well, science.

Sad, really.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:37 PM (7LY+6)

299
Oh God. Can the non-classical carbonium ion feud be far behind?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:32 PM (MjCfq)


Never have so many journal pages been eaten up over so little. Essentially a personality fight.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 01:37 PM (kjVQQ)

300 Why are we focusing on a leftist article trying to discredit the police?

Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2018 01:35 PM (42M22)

Because they aren't credible and they need to be called out. If a "leftist article" makes the point I am willing to listen.

Echo chambers are dangerous things.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2018 01:37 PM (wYseH)

301 Weren't Phlogiston Theory and Ptolemaic Epicycles on one of those Van's Warped tours around 2000?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2018 01:37 PM (2K6fY)

302 unless you are in a closed lab starting the experiment from start to finish there can be a variable thrown in.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:37 PM (Z8j2x)

303 I had a great Anal Chem prof in grad school. A major part of the course was "How Expensive Scientific Instruments Are Lying To You".

I found his approach quite applicable to US governmental data in the Obama years.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 01:38 PM (hyuyC)

304 sorry, starting and finishing an experiment*

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:38 PM (Z8j2x)

305 302 unless you are in a closed lab starting the experiment from start to finish there can be a variable thrown in.
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:37 PM (Z8j2x)

But y?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 01:38 PM (NWiLs)

306 I know this sounds stupid but what's to keep the cops from using your blood when you give them a sample? I don't think the FBI is the only group that has bad apples. My BIL,a prominent Dallas defense lawyer, says never trust them and never talk to them. He says "they are not your friend"

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 01:38 PM (VWsDy)

307 It's not an unreasonable question, depending on how
they approach the subject. If all they're doing is handing out
jockstraps, then no, but if they're studying the human body's response
to particular exercises under carefully designed parameters, it could
be.


Posted by: pep at February 11, 2018 01:33 PM (LAe3v)


I told to apply, the worst they could do was say no. But I did tell him that it was unlikely, as the focus of both the organization and the company sponsors was more in the realm of computer and electrical engineering, physics, and math.
Here's the course of study in question: https://tinyurl.com/y9ozgtz5

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 11, 2018 01:38 PM (yzxic)

308 278 You know how they have a day without immigrants to try to make a point in which they fail. I wish they would have a day without law enforcement. I'd bet the point would be made.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 01:30 PM (2DOZq)
----------------------------
Oh, yes.
The point would indeed be made.
Forcefully.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:39 PM (0jtPF)

309 and Not Your variable!

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:39 PM (Z8j2x)

310
Lost, Papa Bigger, Momma Bigger and Baby Bigger are seeking shelter when they come across a cabin in the forest, somewhat ramshackle but serviceable. However, it has a door that appears to be too small. Papa Bigger tries to get through it first and, with some wriggling, makes it inside. Momma Bigger takes her turn and gets through it with ease. Try as he might, however, Baby Bigger simply could not fit through the door ... because he was a little Bigger.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 01:39 PM (pNxlR)

311 DNA matching -- now that actually IS "science." Don't be like Johnny Cochran -- DNA forensics is right every time except in the most bizarre fluky circumstances.

Now there's a case where we needed prosecutors with IQs above room temperature. The defense maintained (IIRC) that the DNA match resulted from degradation of the DNA. I was shouting at the TV screen for the prosecutors to point out that degradation would mean no match, not a spurious one.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:39 PM (MjCfq)

312 It's the same as the "weather guys" at the WashPost

It really isn't. As I said, it depends on how they apply the scientific method. The subject isn't important. Also, I don't care what school they attended. I've known plenty of duds from absolute top flight schools and profs. Once you're out of grad school, tell me what you've done, not who you know.

Posted by: pep at February 11, 2018 01:39 PM (LAe3v)

313 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:32 PM (0jtPF)

Just as addictive!

Posted by: Surfperch, up the creek at February 11, 2018 01:39 PM (QUtQ6)

314
As an aside my 10 y.o. daughter thinks that luge would be better if they added jumps. heh, I'd like to see that.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2018 01:39 PM (r+sAi)

315 I am more likely to believe science done to make a profit (say steroids to win athletics) than science done to earn a grant."

You know, it'd be amazing (there's an overused word these days) if there had been a famous political figure who could've warned about the influence of dollars being poured into various fields...

Nah. We'll just obsess over the "military/industrial" line and forget the rest of the speech...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:39 PM (7LY+6)

316 305 302 unless you are in a closed lab starting the experiment from start to finish there can be a variable thrown in.
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:37 PM (Z8j2x)

But y?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 01:38 PM (NWiLs)

X-actly!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 01:40 PM (ycWCI)

317 Do they still call it the ART OF MEDICINE?

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 11, 2018 01:40 PM (dKiJG)

318 insomniac, of course to desire the beginning /theory premise, if you are unethical.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:40 PM (Z8j2x)

319 Is there a particular reason why some thought lead could be transformed into gold?



Are their properties similar, I mean?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 12:51 PM (rW4yT)

Well, they are both metals, and both very dense. It might at one time have been a reasonable conjecture that both were comprised of some more fundamental factors, just in differing proportions. Which really is true, in that atoms of gold, and atoms of lead are both made up of protons, neutrons, and electrons.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 01:41 PM (Dbv1R)

320 CNN: Kim Jong Un's sister wins diplomatic gold!

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 01:41 PM (pV/54)

321 Never have so many journal pages been eaten up over so little. Essentially a personality fight.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 01:37 PM (kjVQQ)


Yep. It was essentially a Johnson-measuring spat.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:41 PM (MjCfq)

322 It really isn't."

I know a couple of kids who have taken "exercise" programs at bigly state schools. Trust me, "science" isn't it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:41 PM (7LY+6)

323 Oh God. Can the non-classical carbonium ion feud be far behind?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

** Shudder **.

Still have a copy of Edvrin S. Gould's Mechanism and Structure in Organic Chemistry.

Seared into my repressed memories, it was.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 01:42 PM (hyuyC)

324 The obvious solution is to ban green tea leaves, artisanal soap and donut glaze.



/s

Posted by: Surfperch, possible RUSSIAN BOT at February 11, 2018 01:30 PM (QUtQ6)

That's pretty much our MO.

Posted by: DEA-R-US at February 11, 2018 01:42 PM (FTXAT)

325
This thread is relaxing. Makes me feel like a scientist again.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 01:42 PM (kjVQQ)

326 Don't be like Johnny Cochran -- DNA forensics is right every time except in the most bizarre fluky circumstances.


I so wanted just one TV commentator to say "look, we all know the jury isn't t interested in the evidence, only skin color, so what say we save a little time here and acquit the guy" I'm buying the beer.

Posted by: pep at February 11, 2018 01:42 PM (LAe3v)

327 The huge wave for SSRIs and now for statins is evidence of our boundless capacity for self-deception. We see what we want to see.
Posted by: Caliban


Yeah, pharmaceutical testing hasn't proved the efficacy of either of these classes of drugs. SSRIs in some studies actually performed WORSE than placebo pills!! As for statins, new evidence is showing that even if they DO work as intended, now we are learning that artificially chemically lowering blood cholesterol may be overall more harmful for health than just leaving it as is -- that without cholesterol, the blood vessels themselves begin to weaken and can't repair themselves. As well as other extreme side-effects. All to fix a problem that can be much more easily fixed through lifestyle changes which have zero side-effects.

Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2018 01:42 PM (42M22)

328 I had a great Anal Chem prof in grad school

Me, too!

Posted by: Hope's Rolo at February 11, 2018 01:43 PM (Tyii7)

329 317 Do they still call it the ART OF MEDICINE?
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 11, 2018 01:40 PM (dKiJG)

Yeah and when they say are practicing ,they aint kidding

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 01:43 PM (VWsDy)

330 Edwin Gould. Still -- **shudder**

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 01:43 PM (hyuyC)

331 Cops don't draw and take blood the cruiser isn't sanitary enough.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 01:43 PM (7ZiDC)

332 Please don't tell Sam. He'll be heart-broken.

Posted by: Quincy, M.E. at February 11, 2018 01:43 PM (RvXu3)

333 Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 11, 2018 01:40 PM (dKiJG)

The ART OF MEDICAL SCIENCE.

Posted by: Surfperch, up the creek at February 11, 2018 01:44 PM (QUtQ6)

334 I used to work for the police, if I remember right they had a forensic mobile lab that was such a clusterfuck of incompetence and corruption that staggering number of convictions got tossed.

This is the same police department that used drug dogs and pretended they were cadaver dogs for the media to make a show of searching for dead bodies in order to find clues to catch a serial killer.

I admired the police before I started working for them. Now I hate them with the heat of a thousand suns, and that includes the Feds. Fuck em all, burn it down.

Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at February 11, 2018 01:44 PM (+dsLj)

335 Damn. The chemistry talk is so thick in this thread I'm not even competent to riff a pun off it...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at February 11, 2018 01:44 PM (lLeln)

336 Still have a copy of Edvrin S. Gould's Mechanism and Structure in Organic Chemistry.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 01:42 PM (hyuyC)


Me too!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:45 PM (MjCfq)

337 All to fix a problem"

That may not exactly be a problem.

So here, follow our guidelines for food, 'k?

/George McGovern

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:45 PM (7LY+6)

338 As an aside my 10 y.o. daughter thinks that luge would be better if they added jumps. heh, I'd like to see that.

That's good, but even better would be to string piano wire across the jumps.

Posted by: pep at February 11, 2018 01:45 PM (LAe3v)

339 Deplorable Jay-G - you brought a non-classical carbonium to a phosphonium fight? A Classic blunder, i.e.:
1. land war Asia
2. death on the line/Sicilian
4. longbow/crossbow
3. non-classical carbonium arguments

Posted by: Georgie-porgie Wittig at February 11, 2018 01:45 PM (PD4wl)

340 I think all forensic scientists should be require to wear gigantic clown shoes. This way, they won't be jumping to any significant conclusions.

Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2018 01:45 PM (bJ0w+)

341 so i say this, tongue in cheek, how about galileo, along with attys .


some dislike science, some dislike attys.

without either we would be where?


study-it is throughout time used for good and evil.
faith without reason "old adage'

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:46 PM (Z8j2x)

342 One of the co-authors of the "Advanced Inorganic Chemistry" - I know you'll get the reference - gave an entire seminar to us once on a misassigned crystal structure much like yours. The only tipoff: the thermal ellipsoids on a pendant ligand decreased in size on moving away from the metal atom. Hmmm.

(For non-cognoscenti: one would expect atoms to wave around more the further away they were from where the ligand was tethered, not the other way around. Very subtle. No wonder they missed it at first.)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
---
What I find most intriguing about this is that us nerds find good women to love us.

Now THAT would be a paper!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 11, 2018 01:46 PM (tr2D7)

343 335 Damn. The chemistry talk is so thick in this thread I'm not even competent to riff a pun off it...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at February 11, 2018 01:44 PM (lLeln)

Say something about the chirality of DJG's post being sinister and watch the sparks fly.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 01:46 PM (ycWCI)

344 Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at February 11, 2018 01:44 PM (+dsLj)

Wow you were in a lot of places while workin for the PD .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 01:47 PM (2DOZq)

345 The chemistry talk is so thick in this thread"

I know, huh. Thank goodness there's no M.E. chatter...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:47 PM (7LY+6)

346 A Woke Shitholer

Is it like people working in the kitchen of one restaurant having dinner in another restaurant?

Would higher personnel standards for hiring help? IMHO, HR, Diversity and lowering standards are not the friend of Justice.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 01:47 PM (hyuyC)

347
As an aside my 10 y.o. daughter thinks that luge would be better if they added jumps. heh, I'd like to see that.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2018 01:39 PM (r+sAi)


And the chompers from the passageway to the Omega 13 device in Galaxy Quest

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 01:47 PM (pNxlR)

348 The crisis of reproducibility is also a problem in the sciences. It's not something that is discussed enough, seems to me.

https://www.nature.com/news/1-500-scientists-lift-the-lid-on-reproducibility-1.19970

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 01:47 PM (fA1SL)

349 My science instructor in college always said there wasn't that much difference between a piece of coal and a diamond.


Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 01:02 PM (weSWO)

Superman was always going around, squishing lumps of coal into diamonds with his hands. So DeBeers offed him.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 01:47 PM (Dbv1R)

350 Forensic Mobile Lab, that is a breed I never heard of. Im familiar with Choclate, Black and that yellow lab.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 01:47 PM (7ZiDC)

351 Hello, music fans

Posted by: Thomas Dolby at February 11, 2018 01:48 PM (cHbmY)

352 chirality of DJG's post being sinister"

Left?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:48 PM (7LY+6)

353 As for statins, new evidence is showing that even if they DO work as intended, now we are learning that artificially chemically lowering blood cholesterol may be overall more harmful for health than just leaving it as is -- that without cholesterol, the blood vessels themselves begin to weaken and can't repair themselves.

Something like 85% of cholesterol is endogenous, i.e., biosynthetic rather than dietary in origin.

I've never understood why lowering the cholesterol level would work; presumably the biosynthetic pathway is under feedback control, and so would be up-regulated to make up the shortfall.

Now I don't know doody about this, so if someone can put me some knowledge on why that is not the case, I'd be grateful.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:48 PM (MjCfq)

354 345 Anon a mouse

I keep looking for Iranian casualty figures and a third strike wave.

What's the word on the street?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 01:48 PM (hyuyC)

355
All you levorotary types can just hie your heinies elsewhere

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 01:48 PM (pNxlR)

356

Gentlemen, you are about to enter the most important and fascinating sphere of police work: the world of forensic medicine, where untold victims of many homicides will reach back from the grave and point back a finger accusingly at their assailant.

Posted by: Quincy, M.E. at February 11, 2018 01:49 PM (IqV8l)

357 I've actually taught forensic techniques, in a scientific lab. So yes, forensics do include actual science.

Of course, whether all of "forensic science" involves actual science, or if they are honest/competent is another question all together...

Posted by: The Forensic Hat at February 11, 2018 01:49 PM (itfg0)

358
Annoying Guy Gets What He Deserves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgmHC4yxY5Q


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 01:49 PM (rW4yT)

359
Great heavens, there really is a Mamma Mia 2!

*vomits*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 01:50 PM (kjVQQ)

360 319 Is there a particular reason why some thought lead could be transformed into gold?



Are their properties similar, I mean?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 12:51 PM (rW4yT)

Well, they are both metals, and both very dense. It might at one time have been a reasonable conjecture that both were comprised of some more fundamental factors, just in differing proportions. Which really is true, in that atoms of gold, and atoms of lead are both made up of protons, neutrons, and electrons.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


The goal of alchemy was to find a way to transform lead into gold -- simply as a way of turning a very low-value material into a very high-value material. Much later, long after alchemy was a abandoned as a field of endeavor for being antiquated and ridiculous, scientists finally unintentionally DID achieve the alchemical goal -- we CAN turn lead into gold! Using atomic fission reactions. Problem is, we can only transform a few atoms at a time, and the cost to create one ounce of gold would be in the quadrillions of dollars.

But I do find it funny that the alchemists were right all along -- it IS technically possible!

Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2018 01:50 PM (42M22)

361
deoxyribose nucleic acid...
crunchy figs

Posted by: Maya Jackieblue at February 11, 2018 01:50 PM (Tyii7)

362 334 I used to work for the police, if I remember right they had a forensic mobile lab that was such a clusterfuck of incompetence and corruption that staggering number of convictions got tossed.

This is the same police department that used drug dogs and pretended they were cadaver dogs for the media to make a show of searching for dead bodies in order to find clues to catch a serial killer.

I admired the police before I started working for them. Now I hate them with the heat of a thousand suns, and that includes the Feds. Fuck em all, burn it down.
Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at February 11, 2018 01:44 PM (+dsLj)

So you worked for LA county.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 11, 2018 01:50 PM (dKiJG)

363 I keep looking for Iranian casualty figures and a third strike wave. "

Huh? Who wants "Asian" news?

Snort.

Now back to important topics, such as flamefront propagation in direct injection designs...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:51 PM (7LY+6)

364 322
I know a couple of kids who have taken "exercise" programs at bigly state schools. Trust me, "science" isn't it.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:41 PM (7LY+6)
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I know that a lot of big-sport athletes major in exercise "science." This alone makes me cock an eyebrow.

(I mean, it WOULD if I could cock my eyebrow.
Actually I can't --- and not for lack of trying for decades.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:51 PM (0jtPF)

365 presumably the biosynthetic pathway is under feedback control, and so would be up-regulated to make up the shortfall.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:48 PM (MjCfq)

My understanding is that statins inhibit cholesterol synthesis, so in essence they bypass feedback.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2018 01:51 PM (wYseH)

366 I admired the police before I started working for them. Now I hate them with the heat of a thousand suns, and that includes the Feds. Fuck em all, burn it down.
Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at February 11, 2018 01:44 PM (+dsLj)

I got T-Boned by a cab in NYC. The passenger, a lady, told the cops that the cab, some kinda isnit, ran a red light. When I picked up the police report , no passenger statement. It said it was my fault. Fucking cops being paid off by the cab companies. Luckily, I got the lady's business card. My agent called her and got her "STOP, STOP, STOP" statement on tape. Cab company paid up. I too hate cops

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 01:51 PM (VWsDy)

367 191 comments on crap forensics and nobody mentioned the quack expert witnesses in the Zimmerman trial.





Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 11, 2018 01:09 PM (Eu5eZ)

I didn't read the entire Nation article, but given it's a left-wing source, it's probably silent on that topic.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 01:51 PM (Dbv1R)

368 A levorotary tried to interview me once.

I ate his liver with some fava beans and a big Amarone.

Was that a sin?

Posted by: Dexter at February 11, 2018 01:51 PM (PD4wl)

369 Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:44 PM (Z8j2x)

Kind of scary

Posted by: Papal Prunes and Prisms at February 11, 2018 01:52 PM (htlVR)

370
If you like the above vid, you'll love this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izpcrZeIR4U


Ignorant Girl Holds Up Entire Train

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 01:52 PM (rW4yT)

371 As an aside my 10 y.o. daughter thinks that luge would be better if they added jumps. heh, I'd like to see that.

There is another image that is better. I think thechive had it. In that image, the guy on the back of the sled has a look of absolute terror. Kinda like some of the faces you see on that Disney ride.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycjn7ypx

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 11, 2018 01:52 PM (ECDXs)

372 'Problem is, we can only transform a few atoms at a time, and the cost to create one ounce of gold would be in the quadrillions of dollars. '

Pfft

Posted by: Rumpelstiltskin at February 11, 2018 01:53 PM (UdKB7)

373 i am lmao, sometimes i sit here at aces, and think , fkn guys , neanderthals!
and you have to show me up as a bunch of very creative neanderthals.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:53 PM (Z8j2x)

374 Modern version of alchemy is Bitcoin. It'll have a similar end.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 01:53 PM (pV/54)

375 and the cost to create one ounce of gold would be in the quadrillions of dollars. "

So that's like what, 2 coins?

/Joey "Pasteman" Biden

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:54 PM (7LY+6)

376 372 'Problem is, we can only transform a few atoms at a time, and the cost to create one ounce of gold would be in the quadrillions of dollars. '

Pfft

Posted by: Rumpelstiltskin at February 11, 2018 01:53 PM (UdKB7)


Amateurs...

Posted by: Your friendly neighborhood super nova at February 11, 2018 01:54 PM (itfg0)

377 352 chirality of DJG's post being sinister"

Left?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:48 PM (7LY+6)

DJG is left handed liberal!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 01:54 PM (ycWCI)

378 Does anybody have first-hand experience with computer forensics, like as an attorney or something? Whenever you see something like an email entered as evidence, they never have even the most desultory handwave towards proving they weren't spoofed. Do they just redact the headers because they're boring and hard to read, or do they just assume it all must be real because it has the right 'to' and 'from' addresses?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 01:55 PM (y87Qq)

379 359
Great heavens, there really is a Mamma Mia 2!

*vomits*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 01:50 PM (kjVQQ)
------------------------------
Triple vomit. Projectile vomit.

And I actually like ABBA!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:55 PM (0jtPF)

380 DJG is left handed liberal! "

Sinister indeed!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:55 PM (7LY+6)

381 374 Modern version of alchemy is Bitcoin. It'll have a similar end.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 01:53 PM (pV/54)

Although, to be fair, at least the alchemists were trying to create something of intrinsic value.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 01:55 PM (ycWCI)

382
Holy crap! If there are North Koreans participating in the Olympics, does this mean we'll at last see a successful Iron Lotus in the pairs figure skating competition?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 01:55 PM (pNxlR)

383 And I actually like ABBA!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:55 PM (0jtPF


why- why!

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:56 PM (Z8j2x)

384 I keep looking for Iranian casualty figures and a third strike wave. "

Huh? Who wants "Asian" news?
***************************

Are you talking about IAF taking out a drone then the train of drone operators, the Israeli pilot shot down, the Russian pilot shot down and murdered and hell about to be rained down on Syria or something else?

Posted by: gNewt at February 11, 2018 01:56 PM (6iw++)

385 383 And I actually like ABBA!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:55 PM (0jtPF


why- why!
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:56 PM (Z8j2x)

I blame Dancing Queen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 01:57 PM (ycWCI)

386 A levorotary tried to interview me once.
I ate his liver with some fava beans and a big Amarone.
Was that a sin?
Posted by: Dexter at February 11, 2018 01:51 PM (PD4wl)

Ummmmm....No.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 01:57 PM (EoRCO)

387
Ignorant Girl Holds Up Entire Train

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter


Jesse James?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 11, 2018 01:58 PM (IqV8l)

388 if anything happens in Iran, we wouldn't hear of it. Because now it's only Trump against world in medias thoughts.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:58 PM (Z8j2x)

389 Young and sweet, only seventeen.

Posted by: Tony Weiner at February 11, 2018 01:58 PM (Tyii7)

390 I always felt all business is based on some form of alchemy.
Mine included

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 01:59 PM (VWsDy)

391 >>>i am lmao, sometimes i sit here at aces, and think , fkn guys , neanderthals!
<<<

This is all while doing laundry, dishes, cooking, cleaning and serving cocktails.

Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2018 01:59 PM (bJ0w+)

392 My understanding is that statins inhibit cholesterol synthesis, so in essence they bypass feedback.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2018 01:51 PM (wYseH)


Ah. That makes sense.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 01:59 PM (MjCfq)

393
My science instructor in college always said there wasn't that much difference between a piece of coal and a diamond.

Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 01:02 PM (weSWO)


Diamond is the less stable allotrope. So diamonds are not forever.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 01:59 PM (kjVQQ)

394 366---Cab company paid up. I too hate cops
Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 01:51 PM (VWsDy)
-------------------------
Thank God for the passenger and that she was willing to get involved. Good woman.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:59 PM (0jtPF)

395 Aetius451AD . ugh, i don't even know you guys!

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:59 PM (Z8j2x)

396 Does anybody have first-hand experience with computer forensics, like as an attorney or something?"

I've related a jury duty experience here before - back in the 90s, an email exchange was part of the evidence, and after a few seconds, it became painfully aware that neither side had a clue as to how email actually worked...

Didn't stop either side from babbling on, however.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 01:59 PM (7LY+6)

397 I stand left but I'm right, science is settled.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 01:59 PM (7ZiDC)

398 That might make a fun premise for a movie - asteroid
that is one big diamond crystal hits earth, famous scientist finds it,
Big Diamond sends hit team after scientist and her lovely daughter,
hilarity ensues.


Posted by: mrp at February 11, 2018 01:21 PM (Pqytn)

Read "Hunt For The Meteor" by Jules Verne. A huge meteor, made of solid gold. Very funny, it is.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 01:59 PM (Dbv1R)

399 DJG is left handed liberal!

You're half right.

I am sinister.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:00 PM (MjCfq)

400 Fritz, hell i used to bring home the bacon/ ok never bacon but dough.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:00 PM (Z8j2x)

401 if anything happens in Iran, we wouldn't hear of it. Because now it's only Trump against world in medias thoughts.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 01:58 PM (Z8j2x)
*************
.
JPost said Israel taking out Iranian assets in Syria.

Posted by: gNewt at February 11, 2018 02:00 PM (6iw++)

402 I sold out to the Scandies.
Volvo of North America has decided to take a chance on me.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:01 PM (hv9Rf)

403 and serving cocktails. "

*glances around*

Who got cocktails, and why have I none?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 02:01 PM (7LY+6)

404 fritz, while i defendmyself thus, i actually enjoy the wife part of wife.

although someone needs to cough up the calgon and candles.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:01 PM (Z8j2x)

405 Something like 85% of cholesterol is endogenous, i.e., biosynthetic rather than dietary in origin.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


That is correct. They USED to think that if you ate fatty foods, you got fatty blood. Now that think that diet contributes AT MOST only 15% to the levels of blood cholesterol, and as little as 7%. The rest is caused by internal body chemistry, and possibly by other external non-dietary factors. Changing your diet to "low-fat food" rarely does much of anything to lower blood cholesterol.

Some people just have "high-blood-cholesterol" genes, because for whatever reason in the environment in which their forebears evolved, it was an evolutionary advantage to high high blood cholesterol. So for these people it actually isn't pathological to have high blood cholesterol -- it's just they way they are naturally. Trying to "fix" the "problem" with very powerful drugs is like trying to "fix" the "problem" of being left-handed by cutting off your left arm -- the solution may be more noxious than the original condition.

Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2018 02:01 PM (42M22)

406 Thank God for the passenger and that she was willing to get involved. Good woman.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:59 PM (0jtPF)

I sent her a Corsicana Fruit Cake

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:02 PM (VWsDy)

407 JPost said Israel taking out Iranian assets in Syria.
Posted by: gNewt at February 11, 2018 02:00 PM (6iw++)

well sure but that's not CNN or msndnc!

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:02 PM (Z8j2x)

408 Problem is, we can only transform a few atoms at a time, and the cost to create one ounce of gold would be in the quadrillions of dollars. '


Shhhhhh. You're giving the Democrats an idea of how to finance the national debt. Forget the trillion dollar coin.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:02 PM (MjCfq)

409 I sold out to the Scandies. "

Geely. They're Chinese now.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 02:02 PM (7LY+6)

410 366 I admired the police before I started working for them. Now I hate them with the heat of a thousand suns, and that includes the Feds. Fuck em all, burn it down.
Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at February 11, 2018 01:44 PM (+dsLj)

I got T-Boned by a cab in NYC. The passenger, a lady, told the cops that the cab, some kinda isnit, ran a red light. When I picked up the police report , no passenger statement. It said it was my fault. Fucking cops being paid off by the cab companies. Luckily, I got the lady's business card. My agent called her and got her "STOP, STOP, STOP" statement on tape. Cab company paid up. I too hate cops
Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 01:51 PM (VWsDy)

Dad was in ICU and a cop went into his room kicked us out so he could "interview" him, he said my Dad agreed that he was at fault. Found out later that the Cop did off duty work for the company that we were accusing of hurting our Dad. When it was brought up during the trial as he was leaving the stand he look at the company lawyers and shrugged his shoulders as to say I did my best.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 11, 2018 02:02 PM (dKiJG)

411 I couldn't see anything from that alleged wardrobe malfunction.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:03 PM (hv9Rf)

412 402 I sold out to the Scandies.
Volvo of North America has decided to take a chance on me.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:01 PM (hv9Rf)

Dammit Margarita! Now comments are making me think of ABBA songs!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:03 PM (ycWCI)

413 385---I blame Dancing Queen.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 01:57 PM (ycWCI)
-----------------------
I love that song.
Every time I hear it, it makes me.....dance.
Which is what it's all about.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:03 PM (0jtPF)

414 397 I stand left but I'm right, science is settled.
Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 01:59 PM (7ZiDC)


I dress to the left. Does that count?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:03 PM (MjCfq)

415 355
All you levorotary types can just hie your heinies elsewhere
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 01:48 PM (pNxlR)

I'm more of a lavatory type.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:03 PM (NWiLs)

416 402 I sold out to the Scandies.
Volvo of North America has decided to take a chance on me.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:01 PM (hv9Rf)

Next stop, Birkenstocks and a pellet stove

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:03 PM (VWsDy)

417 Would higher personnel standards for hiring help? IMHO, HR, Diversity and lowering standards are not the friend of Justice

**************************

I'm sure it couldn't hurt but ironically, one thing that led to rampant police corruption was that they were getting paid too. Plus too many safety nets that would all but assure bad and criminal behavior. The high pay meant it was drawing applicants who were only in it for the money and security, so while on paper they appear qualified, their personality traits would guarantee them being fuckheads with a badge.

We had one guy who was sexually harassing women he pulled over. Instead of firing his fucking ass and even prosecuting him, they hid him at headquarters at a desk job until the heat died down.

When you have a culture like that only a remnant of the entire police force are going to be good people, knowing the shit they could get away with.

Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at February 11, 2018 02:04 PM (+dsLj)

418 I dress to the left."

Can you tie them in a knot?

Can you tie 'em in a bow?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 02:04 PM (7LY+6)

419 Dammit Margarita! Now comments are making me think of ABBA songs!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:03 PM (ycWCI)


Yeah! Let's get back to something interesting. Such as famous rows in chemistry ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:04 PM (MjCfq)

420 418 I dress to the left."

Can you tie them in a knot?

Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 02:04 PM (7LY+6)

Can you throw 'em o'er your shoulder
Like a continental soldier?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:05 PM (NWiLs)

421 Such as famous rows in chemistry ..."

Period.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 02:06 PM (7LY+6)

422 The Trucks are still Scandi.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:06 PM (hv9Rf)

423 in defense of cabbie, limo drivers, either driver is not defended , it's the company that is.

the company would shove that limo driver into cement quickly.

just sayin

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:06 PM (Z8j2x)

424 Fritz, hell i used to bring home the bacon/ ok never bacon but dough.

Posted by: willow

Don't forget we be playing some weekend 9-d dimensional chess too, baby!

Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2018 02:06 PM (bJ0w+)

425 Are you talking about IAF taking out a drone then the train of drone operators, the Israeli pilot shot down, the Russian pilot shot down and murdered and hell about to be rained down on Syria or something else?
Posted by: gNewt at February 11, 2018 01:56 PM (6iw++)

http://bit.ly/2EyBl1H

Breakdown from the IDF.

Heh.

Keep effing that chicken, Arabs.

Posted by: golfman at February 11, 2018 02:06 PM (48QDY)

426 My science instructor in college always said there wasn't that much difference between a piece of coal and a diamond.

-
Similarly, Kate Upton and Lena Dunham are practically identical on a subatomic level.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and the Wrecks Is History at February 11, 2018 02:07 PM (+y/Ru)

427 Margarita, i want to defend you, but ABBA? i just can't.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:07 PM (Z8j2x)

428 419 Dammit Margarita! Now comments are making me think of ABBA songs!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:03 PM (ycWCI)

Yeah! Let's get back to something interesting. Such as famous rows in chemistry ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:04 PM (MjCfq)

Sculls or shells?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:07 PM (NWiLs)

429 All the science I have learned I learned right here.
Coffee or Death cup with male crotch shot appeared to have a portion on the thumb missing on Mishum yesterdays photo.
What type of science did that hand go through? Was Rosie was the Dr?

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 02:08 PM (7ZiDC)

430 DJG comes out the enantiometric closet. Finally.

~retropox/HCBrown/G.Wittig/Dexter

Posted by: retropox at February 11, 2018 02:08 PM (PD4wl)

431 hell i used to bring home the bacon"

Fry it up in a pan?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 11, 2018 02:08 PM (7LY+6)

432 394 366---Cab company paid up. I too hate cops
Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 01:51 PM (VWsDy)
-------------------------
Thank God for the passenger and that she was willing to get involved. Good woman.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 01:59 PM (0jtPF)

The woman at the Ins agency was the one that impressed me. Couldn't wait to tell me she had it ON TAPE

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:08 PM (VWsDy)

433 Fritz, on my best day i suck at chess, as i'm sure your know.

i'm a here and now chic. unless i have to appear.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:08 PM (Z8j2x)

434 Anybody could be that guy...

Posted by: Shemp! at February 11, 2018 02:09 PM (Tyii7)

435 I got T-Boned by a cab in NYC. The passenger, a lady, told the cops that the cab, some kinda isnit, ran a red light.

*****************************

Some similar shit happened with my mom. She got into an accident and the cop suggested she was partly to blame, despite being rear-ended, while she was stopped, at a RED light. So apparently she was supposed to drive through traffic to avoid getting hit, right?

She had to deal with a lot of grief until the insurance investigators finally set everything right. These fucking cops, goddamn.

Still i try to stay objective when i meet them on an individual basis. One sheriff pulled me over because I was passing in a no passing zone without realizing it. Looked like a dead ringer for Sgt Hartman so I thought I was in for it, but he was very polite and friendly and let me go, saying to watch for those signs since they werent common in that area and easy to miss (implying that it was done on purpose so the local town could rake in profits from tickets, assholes).

Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at February 11, 2018 02:09 PM (+dsLj)

436 There must be a new thread. Willow is here.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:09 PM (hv9Rf)

437 All you levorotary types can just hie your heinies elsewhere
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 01:48 PM (pNxlR)


A chemical evolution guy was much exercised in figuring out why one chiral form of amino acids and not the other predominates in life. He was invoking chiral photochemistry, etc. all sorts of far-fetched things.

I suggested that maybe there was a D and an L dinosaur, and a rock fell on the D one.

Turns out those chemical evolution guys don't have much of a sense of humor.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:10 PM (MjCfq)

438
Yeah! Let's get back to something interesting. Such as famous rows in chemistry


I'm quite fond of the 2nd Period myself. Mostly stable and quite useful.

The 7th Period? Pfft -- unstable and absent.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 02:10 PM (pNxlR)

439 I have a speech impediment was, was.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 02:11 PM (7ZiDC)

440 pfft boss.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:12 PM (Z8j2x)

441 430 DJG comes out the enantiometric closet. Finally.

~retropox/HCBrown/G.Wittig/Dexter
Posted by: retropox at February 11, 2018 02:08 PM (PD4wl)


I'm right-handed curious. Does that count?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:12 PM (MjCfq)

442 Charle's Law is really more just a guideline.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:12 PM (hv9Rf)

443 433 Fritz, on my best day i suck at chess, as i'm sure your know.

i'm a here and now chic. unless i have to appear.
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:08 PM (Z8j2x)

Letters to Cleo?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:12 PM (NWiLs)

444
436 There must be a new thread. Willow is here.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:09 PM (hv9Rf)


She's like the Norman Bates of threads. All stabby and "Nothing to see here - move on!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 02:12 PM (pNxlR)

445 i actually had cops defend me when i totaled a cops car..
so there ya go.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:13 PM (Z8j2x)

446 Yeah! Let's get back to something interesting. Such as famous rows in chemistry

I'm quite fond of the 2nd Period myself. Mostly stable and quite useful.

The 7th Period? Pfft -- unstable and absent.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 02:10 PM (pNxlR)


6th period is best period.

Posted by: The Heavy Hat at February 11, 2018 02:13 PM (itfg0)

447 even the cop, of the Cops car i totaled!

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:13 PM (Z8j2x)

448 The 7th Period? Pfft -- unstable and absent.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 02:10 PM (pNxlR)


Only unstable for about four or five days. Then everything will be OK again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:13 PM (MjCfq)

449 446 Yeah! Let's get back to something interesting. Such as famous rows in chemistry

I'm quite fond of the 2nd Period myself. Mostly stable and quite useful.

The 7th Period? Pfft -- unstable and absent.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 02:10 PM (pNxlR)

6th period is best period.
Posted by: The Heavy Hat at February 11, 2018 02:13 PM (itfg0)

4th period's best because lunch is right after.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:13 PM (NWiLs)

450 insomniac, i dunno, does she charge?

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:14 PM (Z8j2x)

451 I used to know how to compute valance.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:14 PM (hv9Rf)

452 oof. enantiomeric, not metric.

DJG: You rotate you. whatever floats your boat; the optics don't matter.

Posted by: retropox at February 11, 2018 02:15 PM (PD4wl)

453 451 I used to know how to compute valance.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:14 PM (hv9Rf)


You still have liberty to do that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:16 PM (MjCfq)

454 450 insomniac, i dunno, does she charge?
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:14 PM (Z8j2x)

youtube.com/watch?v=5w2YLdjxS_M

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:17 PM (NWiLs)

455 DJG: You rotate you. whatever floats your boat; the optics don't matter.
Posted by: retropox at February 11, 2018 02:15 PM (PD4wl)


I rotate light both ways. I'm out and proud!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:17 PM (MjCfq)

456
451 I used to know how to compute valance.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:14 PM (hv9Rf)


We-B-Blinds Dot Com! If you make a measurement error, they'll ship you the right size valances for free!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 02:17 PM (pNxlR)

457 Sessions' favorite column is 8.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 02:17 PM (hyuyC)

458 has insomniac, yeah , pretty much.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:18 PM (Z8j2x)

459 eats seven?

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:18 PM (Z8j2x)

460 Still i try to stay objective when i meet them on an individual basis.
Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at February 11, 2018 02:09 PM (+dsLj)

I live in a small village and know the local cops. They're OK. But the ones I don't know are like wild mushrooms to me. It only takes on bad one to make you sick. If you can pick out the good ones, you're smarter than me ( which you probably are anywho) HS dropout, everyone is smarter than me,so don't get a big head

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:19 PM (VWsDy)

461 We're going to salvage our reputation by new looks at phrenology and the influence of the Orgone. Just need ten beelion dollahrz and the American people will be safe.

Posted by: FBI Crime Lab at February 11, 2018 02:19 PM (398bZ)

462 447 even the cop, of the Cops car i totaled!
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:13 PM (Z8j2x)

Was his name Brad?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:19 PM (NWiLs)

463
457 Sessions' favorite column is 8.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 02:17 PM (hyuyC)


There's P behind column IV.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 02:19 PM (pNxlR)

464 still, thinking ABBA why!

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:20 PM (Z8j2x)

465 I think a lot of it is valid. Luminol to detect blood works, for example, although of course the blood must be tested to make sure it's not from someone who just happened to be at the seen with a cut hand from the kitchen or something.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2018 02:20 PM (4ErVI)

466 Reading chicken entrails has never been scientifically discredited. Jus' sayin.'

Posted by: FBI Crime Lab at February 11, 2018 02:20 PM (398bZ)

467 Some similar shit happened with my mom. She got into an accident and the cop suggested she was partly to blame, despite being rear-ended, while she was stopped, at a RED light. So apparently she was supposed to drive through traffic to avoid getting hit, right?

Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at February 11, 2018 02:09 PM (+dsLj)


That's why I have a cheapie dashcam. I figure it's worth the $50 or whatever it cost if just having the recording convinces someone not to try playing stupid games in traffic court.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 02:20 PM (y87Qq)

468
Modern version of alchemy is Bitcoin. It'll have a similar end.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 01:53 PM (pV/54)


To be honest, bitcoin and the cryptos are trying to make an "automatic" type of gold (commodity) standard that would avoid the secondary use of other fiduciary media (like bearer notes, certificates, silver coins and other IOUs) or alternate commodities (like bimetalism or some sort of "basket" of commodities) which are supposed to be equally valued and used out of convenience. Both of these methods to deal with some of the inconvenience of Gold, and both of which tend to cause inflations and bubbles when they get out of step with the central standard.

Whether it works without needing the same sort of fractional use media, or becomes a fiat currency because the value is set not by actual demand and availability is yet to be seen.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2018 02:21 PM (2K6fY)

469 I never have quite figured out the difference between a flood advisory, watch, and warning.
Eh. I just watch the crick rising.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:21 PM (0jtPF)

470 Oh anyone seen JackStraw today?

I'm wondering what his take is on the article over at CTH about Bill Priestap. Sundance thinks he's cooperating with the House investigation.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2018 02:21 PM (4ErVI)

471 Insomniac, ha no, martinez. a wreck with a rich kid, and dad showed up trying to blame me for the 6 car wrck, (freeway)which a police car and an unmarked was right behind me.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:21 PM (Z8j2x)

472
Can the vaunted FBI crime Labs tell us why womens' underwear embroidered names of days of the week do. Ot include "Sunday"?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 02:22 PM (pNxlR)

473 WITH a police car and an unmarked was right behind me.

what a difference word order makes.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:23 PM (Z8j2x)

474 That's why I have a cheapie dashcam. I figure it's worth the $50 or whatever it cost if just having the recording convinces someone not to try playing stupid games in traffic court.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 02:20 PM (y87Qq)

All the Russkies have them. The way those crazy bastards drive I can see why.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:23 PM (NWiLs)

475 Read "Hunt For The Meteor" by Jules Verne. A huge meteor, made of solid gold. Very funny, it is.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 01:59 PM (Dbv1R)

===============================
I was thinking of a cast for the movie, but being an old guy, all I could come up with was Anne Archer c. 1992 as the scientist.

Posted by: mrp at February 11, 2018 02:23 PM (Pqytn)

476 You know the first half of this video could make a hell of a relaxing screensaver:

https://tinyurl.com/ycchthrl

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:23 PM (ycWCI)

477 Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 11, 2018 02:02 PM (dKiJG)

As my BIL advises NEVER, NEVER talk to the cops

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:23 PM (VWsDy)

478 All the Russkies have them. The way those crazy bastards drive I can see why.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:23 PM (NWiLs)

The Ruskie driving vids are always a lift when you're down

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:24 PM (VWsDy)

479 Richard Jewell wasn't the angel the media made him out to be. Sumbitch was dirty. We know it.

Posted by: FBI Crime Lab at February 11, 2018 02:24 PM (398bZ)

480 Damn, I go away for an hour and come back and almost everyone is still talking science...

Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 02:24 PM (weSWO)

481 Does anyone know how Presdent Obama and Michealle Obama are doing ??? We have not heard anything about them and we miss them so much. We remember when we had a loving Black Present and not this garbage we have now !! We want Trump gone !!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at February 11, 2018 02:25 PM (hqQ+Q)

482 I never have quite figured out the difference between a flood advisory, watch, and warning.
Eh. I just watch the crick rising.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:21 PM (0jtPF)


Advisory: If it rains a lot, there's a good chance it'll flood.
Watch: It sure is raining a lot. Hasn't flooded yet.
Warning: Raining pretty festively. Some places have flooded. If some places haven't flooded, maybe they just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 02:25 PM (y87Qq)

483 colin, science IS interesting.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:25 PM (Z8j2x)

484 Similarly, Kate Upton and Lena Dunham are practically identical on a subatomic level.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and the Wrecks Is History at February 11, 2018 02:07 PM (+y/Ru)

Almost makes it seem like there was more than one Creator, eh?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 02:25 PM (Dbv1R)

485 Third world shitholes hardest hit.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:26 PM (hv9Rf)

486
Damn, I go away for an hour and come back and almost everyone is still talking science...
Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 02:24 PM (weSWO)


We're an erudite and knowledgeable horde.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 02:26 PM (pNxlR)

487 hogmartin, needs control of the blog, he knows how it is.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:26 PM (Z8j2x)

488 Luminol to detect blood works, for example, although of course the blood must be tested to make sure it's not from someone who just happened to be at the seen with a cut hand from the kitchen or something.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2018 02:20 PM (4ErVI)


Luminol isn't specific; it reacts with a variety of other species (e.g., Cu(I/II) that can catalyze the decomposition of the hydrogen peroxide that activates the luminol.

It's just that the other species aren't typically found splashed on walls and floors.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:26 PM (MjCfq)

489 445 i actually had cops defend me when i totaled a cops car..
so there ya go.
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:13 PM (Z8j2x)


Didn't you run over hippies with a cement mixer as well?

*makes note to stay off the road when willow is driving*

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 02:26 PM (sdi6R)

490 Almost makes it seem like there was more than one Creator, eh?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 02:25 PM (Dbv1R)

Well, whomever was responsible for Lena could have gone ahead and taken the day off.

I guess he did, evolutionarily speaking.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:27 PM (ycWCI)

491 Similarly, Kate Upton and Lena Dunham are practically identical on a subatomic level.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and the Wrecks Is History at February 11, 2018 02:07 PM (+y/Ru)

they both have short waist ratio.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:27 PM (Z8j2x)

492 479 Richard Jewell wasn't the angel the media made him out to be. Sumbitch was dirty. We know it.
Posted by: FBI Crime Lab at February 11, 2018 02:24 PM (398bZ)

Was the only guy on Earth that had himself some 16d nails

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:27 PM (VWsDy)

493 485 Third world shitholes hardest hit.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:26 PM (hv9Rf)

That's what SHE said.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:27 PM (ycWCI)

494 rickl, i'm a great driver i drove trucks for years.

however i was just driving a rover at this point of impact

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:28 PM (Z8j2x)

495 477 Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 11, 2018 02:02 PM (dKiJG)

As my BIL advises NEVER, NEVER talk to the cops
Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:23 PM (VWsDy)

License, registration, proof of insurance and then shaddup. Occasional one word answers can be OK, like "Do you know why I pulled you over?" Answer is no. Also there's the "any outstanding warrants or tickets I should know about?" This one's tricky but in the age of rampant identity theft I will say "None that I know of," which is unimpeachably true. Trick questions like "do you know how fast you were going" should be deflected since if you say you don't know they can ticket you for inattentive or distracted driving, if you pick a speed and it doesn't match what they think it is you're "obstructing" and if you state a speed over the posted limit they get you for speeding.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:28 PM (NWiLs)

496 >>> The Ruskie driving vids are always a lift when you're down

Sometimes I watch them as a caution when I am getting too lead footed.

Posted by: fluffy at February 11, 2018 02:28 PM (cHbmY)

497
Mooch is 'prenticing with Omar the Tent Maker. Giving credit where credit is due, I guess.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 02:29 PM (pNxlR)

498 i think of richard jewel and Mr gray of cigarette lore as law gone astray. or on point , but failure.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:29 PM (Z8j2x)

499 Can I pre- NUDE from the barrel ??

Posted by: SHEP at February 11, 2018 02:30 PM (VWsDy)

500 I never have quite figured out the difference between a flood advisory, watch, and warning.
Eh. I just watch the crick rising.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:21 PM


I remember it this way, 'watch' is the shorter word. Comes first. 'Warning' is longer word, comes second. Advisory comes before watch. They're just 'advising' you that you might have to watch.

I'm 300' above my local creek, but I do get tornado watches and warnings. Even got the dreaded, "TAKE SHELTER RIGHT NOW!" warning once. Which I promptly ignored. Tornadoes in my neck of the woods usually last for less then one minute. I know the govmint doesn't work that quickly.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 02:30 PM (2FqvZ)

501 477
As my BIL advises NEVER, NEVER talk to the cops
Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:23 PM (VWsDy)
-------------------------
Well, if you're the VICTIM of a crime, you might have to clue them in.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:30 PM (0jtPF)

502 As my BIL advises NEVER, NEVER talk to the cops
Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:23 PM (VWsDy)

License, registration, proof of insurance and then shaddup.

and be polite, because what does Polite have to hurt?

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:30 PM (Z8j2x)

503 As my BIL advises NEVER, NEVER talk to the cops
Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:23 PM (VWsDy)

Not sure that is the best strategy. The Horde would be good at generic answers. The silent treatment might just piss some cops off.

Cop: Where are you coming from?

Me: Silence.

Where's that headed? After a drink or two? Or none?

At the least, your car will be searched.

Posted by: golfman at February 11, 2018 02:30 PM (48QDY)

504 FWIW, in regards to the dowsing for water discussion above, I've done it before. Mapped out a grid of underground water pipes that had to be dug up by hand. Dug down in. Badabing. Right where I expected.

I used two pieces of metal wire (brass coathanger and a steel welding rod, i think it was) instead of the traditional willow/apple branch. Little more reliable, I suppose.

Freaked me right the hell out the first time I did it. But it works. Probably due to induction from ionized salts flowing underground.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 02:31 PM (jnLXM)

505 look, if you are dealing with cops.

think of it like your mum.

say what needs to be said, be respectful, unless they aren't like your mom.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:31 PM (Z8j2x)

506 501 477
As my BIL advises NEVER, NEVER talk to the cops
Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:23 PM (VWsDy)
-------------------------
Well, if you're the VICTIM of a crime, you might have to clue them in.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:30 PM (0jtPF)

Eh, even that can be dicey. Let's say you're involved in a self-defense situation, or you're a male victim of domestic violence. Those can go sideways on you in a hurry.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:31 PM (NWiLs)

507 505 look, if you are dealing with cops.

think of it like your mum.

say what needs to be said, be respectful, unless they aren't like your mom.
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:31 PM (Z8j2x)

Jesus Christ, I hope I never run into a cop like my mom.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:33 PM (NWiLs)

508 480 Damn, I go away for an hour and come back and almost everyone is still talking science...
Posted by: Colin


OK, here's a change of subject:

At the Grammys, they had all the current top music stars -- along with Hillary Clinton -- reading passages from Wollf's anti-Trump book, as some sort of humor skit. One of those "stars" reading the book was a rapper named "Cardi B." She was also nominated for various Grammys, but I think lost to Bruno Mars, who won them all. Even so, she was also used as a presenter at the show various times and all-in-all was dubbed that latest media superstar.

The song she was nominated for is called "Bodak Yellow."

Here are its lyrics (seriously). This person has been anointed by Your Betters as a major cultural genius and celebrity we must all admire and follow. Most of America's children and teenagers listen to this song:

Bodak Yellow
by Cardi B

It's Cardi, ayy
Said, "I'm the shit, they can't fuck with me if they wanted to"

[Chorus]
Said, "Lil bitch, you can't fuck with me if you wanted to"
These expensive, these is red bottoms, these is bloody shoes
Hit the store, I can get 'em both, I don't wanna choose
And I'm quick, cut a ni&&a off, so don't get comfortable, look
I don't dance now, I make money moves
Say I don't gotta dance, I make money move
If I see you and I don't speak, that means I don't fuck with you
I'm a boss, you a worker, bitch, I make bloody moves

[Verse 1]
Now she say she gon' do what to who? Let's find out and see
Cardi B, you know where I'm at, you know where I be
You in the club just to party, I'm there, I get paid a fee
I be in and out them banks so much, I know they're tired of me
Honestly, don't give a fuck 'bout who ain't fond of me
Dropped two mixtapes in six months, what bitch working as hard as me?
I don't bother with these hoes, don't let these hoes bother me
They see pictures, they say, "Goals," bitch, I'm who they tryna be
Look, I might just chill in some BAPE, I might just chill with your boo
I might just feel on your babe, my pussy feel like a lake
He wanna swim with his face, I'm like, "Okay"
I'll let him get what he want, he buy me Yves Saint Laurent
And the new whip, when I go fast as a horse, I got the trunk in the front
I'm the hottest in the street, know you prolly heard of me
Got a bag and fixed my teeth, hope you hoes know it ain't cheap
And I pay my mama bills, I ain't got no time to chill
Think these hoes be mad at me, their baby father run a bill

[Chorus]
Said, "Lil bitch, you can't fuck with me if you wanted to"
These expensive, these is red bottoms, these is bloody shoes
Hit the store, I can get 'em both, I don't wanna choose
And I'm quick, cut a ni&&a off, so don't get comfortable, look
I don't dance now, I make money moves
Say I don't gotta dance, I make money move
If I see you and I don't speak, that means I don't fuck with you
I'm a boss, you a worker, bitch, I make bloody moves

[Verse 2]
If you a pussy, you get popped, you a goofy, you a opp
Don't you come around my way, you can't hang around my block
And I just checked my accounts, turns out, I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich
I put my hand above my hip, I bet you dip, he dip, she dip
I say I get the money and go, this shit is hot like a stove
My pussy glitter as gold, tell that lil bitch play her role
I just arrove in a Rolls, I just came up in a Wraith
I need to fill up the tank, no, I need to fill up the safe
I need to let all these hoes know that none of their ni&&as is safe
I go to dinner and steak, only the real can relate
I used to live in the P's, now it's a crib with a gate
Rollie got charms, look like Frosted Flakes
Had to let these bitches know, just in case these hoes forgot
I just run and check the mail, another check from Mona Scott

[Chorus]
Said, "Lil bitch, you can't fuck with me if you wanted to"
These expensive, these is red bottoms, these is bloody shoes
Hit the store, I can get 'em both, I don't wanna choose
And I'm quick, cut a ni&&a off, so don't get comfortable, look
I don't dance now, I make money moves
Say I don't gotta dance, I make money move
If I see you and I don't speak, that means I don't fuck with you
I'm a boss, you a worker, bitch, I make bloody moves

Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2018 02:33 PM (42M22)

509 490 remember, the world is corrupted after sin was introduced in the Garden of Eden. I think Lena is merely an example of the earth's groaning against the burden of sin.

God deserves no blame for that mess.

Posted by: Moki at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (V+V48)

510 461 We're going to salvage our reputation by new looks at phrenology and the influence of the Orgone. Just need ten beelion dollahrz and the American people will be safe.

Posted by: FBI Crime Lab at February 11, 2018 02:19 PM (398bZ)


A little mood music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPISXvQwm_E

Posted by: The Space Hat at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (itfg0)

511 Schumer wants to ban Tide Pods.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (hv9Rf)

512 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:28 PM (NWiLs)

What was that, officer ??

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (VWsDy)

513 Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2018 02:33 PM (42M22)

*sniff*

Never have I read poetry as beautiful and as moving as this.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (NWiLs)

514 look, someone within the law pulls you over.
they are , just looking for your ins card and license
will tell you what they are pulling you over for

be polite.

if they are gandering. be polite.

if they are being combative, call insomniac.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (Z8j2x)

515 We're going to salvage our reputation by new looks
at phrenology and the influence of the Orgone. Just need ten beelion
dollahrz and the American people will be safe.
Posted by: FBI Crime Lab at February 11, 2018 02:19 PM (398bZ)


I know someone who built himself an Orgone box. It is essentially a box you shut yourself into to allow some sort of power to be circulated back into yourself. Apparently the material and actual dimensions are not critical.

So, why not just lock yourself into an empty closet, I wanted to scream.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (2K6fY)

516 Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2018 02:33 PM (42M22)

Looks like Frank Sinatra has some competition!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:35 PM (ycWCI)

517 512 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:28 PM (NWiLs)

What was that, officer ??
Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (VWsDy)

I'm not following you here.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:35 PM (NWiLs)

518 482---Advisory: If it rains a lot, there's a good chance it'll flood.
Watch: It sure is raining a lot. Hasn't flooded yet.
Warning: Raining pretty festively. Some places have flooded. If some places haven't flooded, maybe they just haven't gotten around to it yet.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 02:25 PM (y87Qq)
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500---Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 02:30 PM (2FqvZ)
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Well, damn.
The education you can get on this blog!

I will try to remember the tip about little "watch" coming before big "warning."
And A always comes first alphabetically.

I hope I'm not too senile to remember this.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:35 PM (0jtPF)

519 490 Almost makes it seem like there was more than one Creator, eh?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 02:25 PM (Dbv1R)

Well, whomever was responsible for Lena could have gone ahead and taken the day off.

I guess he did, evolutionarily speaking.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:27 PM (ycWCI)


Hey, even God fouls off the odd pitch.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:36 PM (MjCfq)

520 Statistically since the article refers back to The Nation it's probably full of crap.

Posted by: DaveA at February 11, 2018 02:36 PM (FhXTo)

521 insomniac. when you say this about your mom, i feel so bad. Your mom should be your first souls spirit defense. Im so Sorry!

i luv you like a mom and you need me to fill in, i'm there.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:36 PM (Z8j2x)

522 509 490 remember, the world is corrupted after sin was introduced in the Garden of Eden. I think Lena is merely an example of the earth's groaning against the burden of sin.

God deserves no blame for that mess.
Posted by: Moki at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (V+V4

Whole thing was a setup.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:36 PM (NWiLs)

523

Freaked me right the hell out the first time I did it. But it works. Probably due to induction from ionized salts flowing underground.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 02:31 PM


I saw Ionized Salts open for Devinels at the Spectrum.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 02:36 PM (2FqvZ)

524 Once I got pulled over. The cop said, "Do you know why I pulled you over?"

I thought for a second and said, "Oh, right. One of my headlights is out. That only happened a couple of days ago."

He gave me a warning that said to get it fixed and to show up at the police station to prove that I did get it fixed. I did, and that was the end of it.

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 02:37 PM (sdi6R)

525
What's the reason that Technetium, atomic number 43 and right in the middle of Period 5, has no stable isotopes?

I'm not a nuclear chemist, so I have no idea as to the answer.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 02:37 PM (pNxlR)

526 511 Schumer wants to ban Tide Pods.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (hv9Rf)

Which reminds me: I have to get some laundry detergent.

Here is my thing: was laundry detergent so complicated that you need a self-contained unit of it?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:37 PM (ycWCI)

527 Jesus Christ, I hope I never run into a cop like my mom.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:33 PM (NWiLs)

My mom died when I was born, so might work

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:37 PM (VWsDy)

528 Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:36 PM (Z8j2x)

Aww, that's sweet. I should've been more specific, in fairness. I would want to run into a cop like my mom for the first 20 years of my life. She's reformed over time but growing up...fuck me.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:37 PM (NWiLs)

529 481 Does anyone know how Presdent Obama and Michealle Obama are doing ??? We have not heard anything about them and we miss them so much. We remember when we had a loving Black Present and not this garbage we have now !! We want Trump gone !!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at February 11, 2018 02:25 PM (hqQ+Q)

Go into the light, Mary. Go into the light.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2018 02:38 PM (4ErVI)

530 As a way around feeling that you must answer something to a cop's questions. Just say you have nothing to say about that in answer.

It's to the point yet ambiguous and shouldn't be taken otherwise.

Said politely and consistently this will stop the cop's questions. Don't cite the 5th or any nonsense like that. Cops hate it when civilians throw the constitution at them.

Just say you don't have any thing to say. Period. You're not required to answer every question the cop throws at you.

I had a cop keep asking questions and I knew he'd have an answer for every one I had and was just looking to make me feel small and that was the first time I used that phrase. After a couple more questions, he gave up and since it was a bogus stop (said I hadn't turned my signal on soon enough) he let me go at that point. I would guess due to the time of night he was looking for a drunk driver, which I wasn't.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 02:38 PM (C4l4A)

531 That's *wouldn't*. Bah.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:38 PM (NWiLs)

532 Schumer wants to ban Tide Pods.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (hv9Rf)

He says they need to be banned because they look like food. Apparently he almost ate one before one of his staff took it from him so...


It is sad when toddlers are smarter than legislators.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 02:38 PM (FTXAT)

533
526 511 Schumer wants to ban Tide Pods.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (hv9Rf)

Which reminds me: I have to get some laundry detergent.

Here is my thing: was laundry detergent so complicated that you need a self-contained unit of it?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:37 PM (ycWCI)
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It occurs to me that a big part of our problem is the result of interfering with natural selection

Posted by: Weasl at February 11, 2018 02:40 PM (Sfs6o)

534 Maybe Tide Pods should be laid around Washington.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:40 PM (hv9Rf)

535 "Jesus Christ, I hope I never run into a cop like my mom."

He'd be up on charges if he started that ear-thumping shit.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 02:40 PM (398bZ)

536 That forensic article is really long but really good. The politics at that site are, however, not welcoming; be forewarned.

Posted by: m at February 11, 2018 02:40 PM (VKsXm)

537 506 501 477
As my BIL advises NEVER, NEVER talk to the cops
Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:23 PM (VWsDy)
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Well, if you're the VICTIM of a crime, you might have to clue them in.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:30 PM (0jtPF)

Eh, even that can be dicey. Let's say you're involved in a self-defense situation, or you're a male victim of domestic violence. Those can go sideways on you in a hurry.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:31 PM (NWiLs)

Remember the Ramsey case, I always wondered why they didn't help the police with their daughter's kidnapping and death.

Many years later it came out one of the Dectectives told them that they know that they were guilty and killed their child. The press saying that the parents were guilty for not talking to the cops because they had something to hide. You can't believe the press or the cops until you see the evidence yourself.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 11, 2018 02:40 PM (dKiJG)

538 I have always found if you want to talk about a ticket, talk to the judge. Unless you are in MA, then you are SOL

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:40 PM (VWsDy)

539 Ok, wait. I know we are gerbils, but I thought the whole 'eating tide pods' thing started off as a stupid video dare- not because they looked like food.

You would have to be a pretty big piece of luggage before you would think that detergent was food, right?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:40 PM (ycWCI)

540 My horde of the illegal light bulbs is nearly played out.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:41 PM (hv9Rf)

541 508---Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2018 02:33 PM (42M22)
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That such crap should exist does not disturb me.
That it is lauded by our ruling class, well, that's another matter.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:41 PM (0jtPF)

542 look, if you are dealing with cops.

think of it like your mum.

Posted by: willow

========================


So, blame everything on my brother!

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2018 02:41 PM (EzdLW)

543 537 506 501 477
As my BIL advises NEVER, NEVER talk to the cops
Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:23 PM (VWsDy)
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Well, if you're the VICTIM of a crime, you might have to clue them in.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:30 PM (0jtPF)

ONLY people who listen to ABBA are victims

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:41 PM (VWsDy)

544 He says they need to be banned because they look like food. Apparently he almost ate one before one of his staff took it from him so...

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 02:38 PM (FTXAT)


Was that the one he claims was just sitting on a staffer's desk?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 02:42 PM (y87Qq)

545 Moving ticket. When was car or radar gun last calibrated, isnt that the defense/response an atty would recommend.

Who hasn't had some form of communication with an officer somewhere, where the the response starts with oh ch__.

Posted by: Orange@aol.com at February 11, 2018 02:42 PM (7ZiDC)

546 Was that the one he claims was just sitting on a staffer's desk?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 02:42 PM (y87Qq)

Yep

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 02:43 PM (FTXAT)

547 Schumer wants to ban Tide Pods.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (hv9Rf)

Well, I am certain that the Tide Pod Challenge is depelting the pool of potential Democrat voters.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 02:43 PM (Dbv1R)

548 540 My horde of the illegal light bulbs is nearly played out.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:41 PM (hv9Rf)

Hoard.

I am not trying to be uselessly pedantic (although, there is that) but for some reason, I have been trying to get 'hoard' into a comment for several days now.

Thanks!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:43 PM (ycWCI)

549 All of those powdered envelopes a few years ago were probably just detergent.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:43 PM (hv9Rf)

550 What's the reason that Technetium, atomic number 43 and right in the middle of Period 5, has no stable isotopes?

I'm not a nuclear chemist, so I have no idea as to the answer.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 02:37 PM (pNxlR)


This is because decay products are much more stable (and at lower energy) for all isotopes of technetium (as well as promethium). In contrast a stable element doesn't decay because through known decay mechanisms, such daughter products would be of higher energy.

Posted by: The Nuclear Hat at February 11, 2018 02:43 PM (itfg0)

551 Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

The atomic physics guys have theories on nucleus stability. Lead has a very stable ration of protons and neutron, so is not radioactive. Like a complete octet for the smaller atoms.

Technetium, atomic number 43, has a very unstable number of protons and neutron, which go away via radioactivity to yield more stable nuclei.

Like being at the top of an energy curve with paths leading either way to less energetic products.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 02:43 PM (hyuyC)

552 I will try to remember the tip about little "watch" coming before big "warning."
And A always comes first alphabetically.

I hope I'm not too senile to remember this.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:35 PM


My wife is like the master of using mnemonics. For some reason I've always thought that Mars was closer to the Sun than Earth, because any flight to catch up to it (that I've ever seen) has the spaceship heading straight for the Sun. In discussion with wife she rattled off something like, "My Very Easy Method Just Speeds Up Names".

I'm like WTF?

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 02:44 PM (2FqvZ)

553 You can't believe the press or the cops until you see the evidence yourself.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 11, 2018 02:40 PM (dKiJG)

The media and police depts. shop at the same shitbag store

Posted by: REDACTED at February 11, 2018 02:44 PM (VWsDy)

554 Schumer wants to ban Tide Pods.


===========

Of course he is!! Could do some real numerical damage to a key anti-American democrat party constituency. The stupid.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 11, 2018 02:44 PM (3BFzK)

555 So idiots want to eat Tide pods and voluntarily remove themselves from the gene pool. I don't see a problem with that. It certainly doesn't require a government response.



OK, I can understand why Democrats are worried. It might cut into their all-important left-side-of-the-bell-curve demographic.

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 02:44 PM (sdi6R)

556 hands, HA, that was tooo funnay.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:44 PM (Z8j2x)

557 Schumer is playing to Mom voters out there. Dems / MSM get to claim the GOP doesn't care about poisoned children.

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2018 02:44 PM (EzdLW)

558 I'd like my attorney present when I'm being questioned, asshole.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 02:45 PM (Sfs6o)

559 520 Statistically since the article refers back to The Nation it's probably full of crap.
Posted by: DaveA at February 11, 2018 02:36 PM (FhXTo)


Yep. I've never quite figured out why the Left has such affinity for criminals, yet you notice that their sympathy invariably goes to criminals, and they laugh off victims.

I suppose that at one level it's sympathy for the underdog, as they see it, and at a more profound, more invidious level it's a way to help undermine the legitimacy of society as currently formulated.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:45 PM (MjCfq)

560 Can Tide Pods vote to ban Schumer......

I vote yea!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 02:45 PM (EoRCO)

561 Was that the one he claims was just sitting on a staffer's desk?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 02:42 PM (y87Qq)

Yep
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 02:43 PM (FTXAT)


So "laundry detergent pods" are "things you find on a senate staffer's desk" and "senate staffer's desks" are "places where you should just grab everything you find and shove it into your gaping maw".

I'd be awful at complete idiot Family Feud.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 02:46 PM (y87Qq)

562 Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:43 PM (ycWCI)

You'll be hearing from my copyright lawyers

Posted by: LAURA at February 11, 2018 02:46 PM (VWsDy)

563 mnemonics, i always found that One more thing i have to remember, so NO!

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:46 PM (Z8j2x)

564 541 508---Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2018 02:33 PM (42M22)
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That such crap should exist does not disturb me.
That it is lauded by our ruling class, well, that's another matter.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:41 PM (0jtPF)

On the other hand, the most surefire way to destroy a cultural entity (song, dance, fad of any kind) is to have the government class act like it's good. (especially if the adjective "vibrant" is used in any capacity)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 02:46 PM (jnLXM)

565 My wife is like the master of using mnemonics. For some reason I've always thought that Mars was closer to the Sun than Earth, because any flight to catch up to it (that I've ever seen) has the spaceship heading straight for the Sun. In discussion with wife she rattled off something like, "My Very Easy Method Just Speeds Up Names".

I'm like WTF?
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 02:44 PM (2FqvZ)


Mnemonics are invaluable. I'm learning the kanji right now, and doing so in finite time without mnemonics is virtually impossible.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:47 PM (MjCfq)

566 I need a mnemonic to spell mnemonic.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 02:47 PM (398bZ)

567 Whatever you do, don't fall asleep next to a Tide Pod. The pod will slowly morph into an exact replica of you, and you die! And you! And you!. *stares into camera* And YOU!

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2018 02:47 PM (EzdLW)

568 Just being a pest by posting animal pictures for the upcoming Valentine's Day-courtesy of "IOTW Report"

https://tinyurl.com/ycr2ezex

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2018 02:47 PM (8+Ozj)

569 i have to admit, i never would have thought of putting tide pods in my desk drawer. i realize i must be deficient that way.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:47 PM (Z8j2x)

570 I'm a mom and a voter and I have zero fucks to give about eating tide pods. My kid never ate them because he isn't a dumbass.

Posted by: NCKate at February 11, 2018 02:48 PM (fVtAn)

571 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2018 02:21 PM (4ErVI)

Saw that. I'm guessing that as a cointel director he may have had a few plans ready in case Hillary didn't get elected and if Trump got elected and an investigation began.

I'm guessing he was manipulating comey before comey tried to peg him.

Note we've heard almost nothing about the guy.

Cointel guys are always thinking about What If's to an op. This is because they can go sideways real quick and you have to have a plan in mind so you can move quickly.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 02:48 PM (C4l4A)

572 569 i have to admit, i never would have thought of putting tide pods in my desk drawer. i realize i must be deficient that way.
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:47 PM (Z8j2x)

Well, it's not exactly close to it's point of use- unless you have your desk in the laundry room.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:49 PM (ycWCI)

573 My kids never ate Tide pods either, but in all fairness that might be because I never bought any.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 02:49 PM (kNasr)

574 Posted by: zombie at February 11, 2018 02:33 PM (42M22)

Stupid Peasant! Cardi B is clearly the next Mozart with her entrancing rhythms and deep meaningful lines which really dig at the soul of modern society.

>>I don't dance now, I make money moves
Say I don't gotta dance, I make money move
If I see you and I don't speak, that means I don't fuck with you
I'm a boss, you a worker, bitch, I make bloody moves

Sure this may sound meaningless and cheap, but it really shows how...er... meaningless and...umm...cheap our society has become as shown through our music. The above line is packed with meaning which I won't mention because it is too deep and complex for your tiny little peasant brains to comprehend. Your critique of our work really shows how you peasants cannot survive without a caring intellectual elite.

Posted by: Your Betters at February 11, 2018 02:49 PM (QUtQ6)

575 The eating of delicious and healthful Tide Pods is not some type of accident. these future democrat voters are doing because they want to.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 11, 2018 02:49 PM (3BFzK)

576
President's Day is a week from tomorrow. It's a Hack Holiday.

Also, it marks the week of Febooary Vacation for the kids, freeing the little germ-spreaders to infect many others outside their schools and homes.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 02:49 PM (rW4yT)

577 in case the food thread comes along and i'm not around, somebody mention that it's weird that you don't hear much about barley. it used to be a big deal, and i love barley in soups, but you don't see it much.

i like barley.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 11, 2018 02:49 PM (Pg+x7)

578 Purpose of laundry pods is to make it so people going to laundry rooms in multifamily buildings or laundromats don't have to lug heavy liquid detergents. They are a godsend for the elderly and disabled that can't easily pour things. It's bullshit that because some window licking mental detectives can't figure out not eat soap the rest of us have to lose a convenience.

Posted by: Blue Falcon at February 11, 2018 02:49 PM (N5dam)

579 i have to admit, i never would have thought of putting tide pods in my desk drawer. i realize i must be deficient that way.
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:47 PM (Z8j2x)


What if there were an emergency and you had to do EXACTLY ONE load of laundry RIGHT AWAY?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 02:49 PM (y87Qq)

580 Hands off my pods, bro!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 02:50 PM (Sfs6o)

581 If you say "Mnemonic" into a bathroom vanity mirror three times, Keanu Reeves will appear.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 02:50 PM (jnLXM)

582
Jesus Christ, I hope I never run into a cop like my mom.
Posted by: Insomniac


Me too!

Posted by: Norman Bates at February 11, 2018 02:50 PM (IqV8l)

583 Remember the Ramsey case, I always wondered why they didn't help the police with their daughter's kidnapping and death.

Many years later it came out one of the Dectectives told them that they know that they were guilty and killed their child. The press saying that the parents were guilty for not talking to the cops because they had something to hide. You can't believe the press or the cops until you see the evidence yourself.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 11, 2018 02:40 PM (dKiJG)

The thing is it's almost certain someone in the family killed her. One popular theory now is that it was her brother Burke, who got mad at his sister because she swiped some of his pineapple in the middle of the night and he cracked her on the head with a flashlight. The rest involved a cover up to make it look like an intruder.

Burke had some behavioral issues that weren't well known at the time. He also had some resentment towards his sister due to all the attention she got from the pageants and such.

I don't want to get into an examination of the case itself, but the Ramseys did everything right with lawyering up immediately and refusing to talk the cops, even moreso if they actually were involved in the crime. The Boulder cops didn't know how to handle a murder case and didn't seal the crime scene. They didn't even search the house. It was John who found her body in the basement.

It's up the police to prove your guilt. You're in no way obligated to help them do this.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2018 02:50 PM (4ErVI)

584 Although I would have paid a reporter a $100 if they would have asked Schumer "Why DID your staffer have a Tide pod on their desk? Seems odd. Are you odd? Do you hire odd people?"

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:50 PM (ycWCI)

585
Tide Pods are stupid, anyway.

Before Tide Pods....

Cascade made a very delicious-looking dishwasher tablet that looked a Big SWEET-TART.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 02:50 PM (rW4yT)

586 I just ate a Tide pod and boy, is my ass clean.

Posted by: Bad Henny Youngman Quotes at February 11, 2018 02:51 PM (398bZ)

587 I'm a mom and a voter and I have zero fucks to give about eating tide pods. My kid never ate them because he isn't a dumbass.

Posted by: NCKate at February 11, 2018 02:48 PM


Somebody used Photoshop to add some words to the top and bottom of a picture of a millennial biting into a Tide Pod:

THIS IS WHY I

( picture)

CAN'T AFFORD HEALTH INSURANCE

Twitter banned him/her.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 02:51 PM (2FqvZ)

588 You can have my Tide Pods when you eat them out of my cold dead hands.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:51 PM (hv9Rf)

589 Does Tide make regular ol' powder detergent anymore?

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 02:51 PM (Sfs6o)

590 ... is the food thing today? whatever. i like barley.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 11, 2018 02:52 PM (Pg+x7)

591 hogmartin, didn't you see my test above! i think right now!. eventualities.. well i'm so not prepared.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:52 PM (Z8j2x)

592 I was on a jury for the trial of an alleged rapist. The prosecutor pointed out the chance of a DNA was one in astronomical. The defense had no rebuttal. That sealed the deal.
It seems to me that local population size is more relavant than the universe. Few local Chinese, Russians, Indians, etc. Local population is basically European.
Defendant was black. What if he came from a large family of thugs. What if he has a large number of brother and cousins who are also thugs. It would then seem a DNA match might not be so exceptional.
He was convicted because DNA. That and his relatives said they were with him at the time of the crime and they were at different places. It apparently never occurred to anyone to get their stories straight. An incompetent defense lawyer is worse than no lawyer.

Posted by: Shaking Head at Justice System at February 11, 2018 02:52 PM (2hs2X)

593 589 Does Tide make regular ol' powder detergent anymore?
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 02:51 PM (Sfs6o)

Well, boys, looks who's all 'get back to nature' now!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:52 PM (ycWCI)

594 Several donut shops here in Kansas have pastries with colored frosting that look like Tide Pods.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 02:53 PM (hyuyC)

595 Does Tide make regular ol' powder detergent anymore?
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 02:51 PM (Sfs6o)
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Yep! I have a big ol' Costco-sized box of it sitting in my laundry room right now. It looks delicious.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 02:53 PM (kNasr)

596 i'm not so into barley, it's alright, but i prefer raspberry.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:53 PM (Z8j2x)

597 590 ... is the food thing today? whatever. i like barley.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 11, 2018 02:52 PM (Pg+x7)

Lol!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:53 PM (ycWCI)

598 The Schumer aide had a fully automatic Tide Pod that had Russian writing on it. Trump was once in a building where this Schumer aide went 25 years later.

This a Constitutional crisis when Russian agents use fully automatic Tide Pods to assassinate a political rival under Trump's presidency.

Posted by: This is CNN at February 11, 2018 02:53 PM (3BFzK)

599 590. Barley's okay. If you're out of food, that is.

Kasha - it's the pimp-daddy of such things.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 02:53 PM (fA1SL)

600
The reason why Chuck Schumer (D) is so upset about Tide Pod-eaters is that they're 100% future (D) voters.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 02:53 PM (2FqvZ)

601
593 589 Does Tide make regular ol' powder detergent anymore?
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 02:51 PM (Sfs6o)

Well, boys, looks who's all 'get back to nature' now!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:52 PM (ycWCI)
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As a farmer I appreciate the basics.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 02:54 PM (Sfs6o)

602 NASCAR Clash (formerly Bud Pole Shootout) starting on FS1 imminently

Posted by: Methos at February 11, 2018 02:54 PM (XQvuQ)

603 596 i'm not so into barley, it's alright, but i prefer raspberry.
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:53 PM (Z8j2x)

If we are doing this, I like pickled bologna.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 02:54 PM (ycWCI)

604 595 Does Tide make regular ol' powder detergent anymore?
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 02:51 PM (Sfs6o)
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Yep! I have a big ol' Costco-sized box of it sitting in my laundry room right now. It looks delicious.
Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 02:53 PM (kNasr)

Couple rails of that and you'll be on the ceiling.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:54 PM (NWiLs)

605 Tide Pods. They're whats for dinner.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM (hv9Rf)

606 552---- In discussion with wife she rattled off something like, "My Very Easy Method Just Speeds Up Names".

I'm like WTF?
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 02:44 PM (2FqvZ)
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She forgot the "putz."
It should be "My Very Easy Method Just Speeds Up Names, Putz."

(Yes, I'm bitter about Pluto. Very bitter.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM (0jtPF)

607 590 ... is the food thing today? whatever. i like barley.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 11, 2018 02:52 PM (Pg+x7)


All this talk of Tide pods is making me hungry.

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM (sdi6R)

608 I'd like to put a bowl of Tide Pods in the Senate dining room and see how many take them for lunch...Probably the bowl would be empty in an hour.

Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM (weSWO)

609 I guess no one threatens to wash the kid's mouth out with soap anymore.

I got the threat and worked out that soap probably wasn't the tastiest thing around. So the idea of voluntarily eating soap or any cleaning product never occurred to me.

Posted by: all doubt removed at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM (xj0OI)

610 599 590. Barley's okay. If you're out of food, that is.

Kasha - it's the pimp-daddy of such things.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 02:53 PM (fA1SL)

REMOVE QUINOA!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM (NWiLs)

611 Aetius451AD

well if we are going 'there' corned beef!

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM (Z8j2x)

612
Yep! I have a big ol' Costco-sized box of it sitting in my laundry room right now. It looks delicious.
Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 02:53 PM (kNasr)
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I looked for it at a Harris Teeter the other day and couldn't find it. And yes, Harris Teeter is a dumb name for a grocery store.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM (Sfs6o)

613 605 Tide Pods. They're whats for dinner.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM (hv9Rf)


Is this the food thread now?

Posted by: The Tide Hat at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM (itfg0)

614 Sitting on a link long ? No, the spin that a "house of cards" is about to tumble is over selling things by a good bit.

Fact is, the Session's DOJ, while sucking at many things, also isn't interested in any of the reforms discussed, nor any further study, unless it's working to enhance the use of Forensic Science for the prosecution.

No idea how you get the idea this is about to tumble. It's trending in the opposite direciton.

Posted by: deadrody at February 11, 2018 02:56 PM (4yA46)

615 Insomniac

Couple rails of that and you'll be on the ceiling.

So the large box is on rails to make unloading easier, and if you are not careful, the lack of a counterbalance will throw you up to the ceiling? I had no idea laundry was so dangerous.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 02:56 PM (hyuyC)

616 -
--
... is the food thing today? whatever. i like barley.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 11, 2018 02:52 PM

-------------------------------

I really love that cold alcoholic barley soup in a bottle. LOVE IT!!!





Posted by: irright at February 11, 2018 02:56 PM (RVcmP)

617 610. Slogan for 2018 & beyond.

REMOVE QUINOA!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 02:56 PM (fA1SL)

618 Cop: Where are you coming from?

Me: Silence.

Where's that headed? After a drink or two? Or none?

At the least, your car will be searched.
Posted by: golfman at February 11, 2018 02:30 PM (48QDY)

They can search my car, IDC. Fucking people over is mother's milk to a cop. As LZ said "your time is gonna come"

Posted by: LAURA at February 11, 2018 02:56 PM (VWsDy)

619 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM (0jtPF)

Avenge me!

Posted by: Pluto at February 11, 2018 02:57 PM (QUtQ6)

620 Senator Schumer has barely escaped a Tide Pod assassination attempt.

What did Trump know and when did he know it.


Posted by: This is CNN at February 11, 2018 02:57 PM (3BFzK)

621 I can sorta kinda almost understand a certain level of concern about Tide Pods as far as little infants are concerned. Infants, young toddlers, whatever. They'll eat anything that isn't nailed down. And they'll gnaw on half the stuff that IS nailed down. So there's that.

But still...

If you're capable enough as an organism to post a Youtube video, you should know not to eat soap.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 02:57 PM (jnLXM)

622 So the large box is on rails to make unloading easier, and if you are not careful, the lack of a counterbalance will throw you up to the ceiling? I had no idea laundry was so dangerous.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 02:56 PM (hyuyC)

*sigh* Engineers...

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 02:57 PM (NWiLs)

623 He was convicted because DNA. That and his relatives said they were with him at the time of the crime and they were at different places. It apparently never occurred to anyone to get their stories straight. An incompetent defense lawyer is worse than no lawyer.
Posted by: Shaking Head at Justice System at February 11, 2018 02:52 PM (2hs2X)


IANAL, but I imagine it would be an ethical violation for a lawyer to coach the witnesses to get their stories straight.

Besides which, what kind of retards would not think of this on their own?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:57 PM (MjCfq)

624 I guess no one threatens to wash the kid's mouth out with soap anymore.



I got the threat and worked out that soap probably wasn't the
tastiest thing around. So the idea of voluntarily eating soap or any
cleaning product never occurred to me.





Posted by: all doubt removed at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM (xj0OI)

My kids got their mouths washed out with soap for cussing. I only had to apply that punishment once for them to get the message.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 02:57 PM (FTXAT)

625 mnemonics.. do we really have to remember this again?

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:57 PM (Z8j2x)

626 620 Senator Schumer has barely escaped a Tide Pod assassination attempt.

What did Trump know and when did he know it.


Posted by: This is CNN at February 11, 2018 02:57 PM (3BFzK)

False flag.

It was a J&J Op.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 02:58 PM (jnLXM)

627
Why are we talking about Tide Pods?



This isn't the Food Thread.

Posted by: Every Democrat Voter Everywhere at February 11, 2018 02:58 PM (9q7Dl)

628 >>>58
Hammers are used to hammer in the morning...and in the evening...all over this land.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 12:18 PM (wPiJc)
------
Well, yes - if I had a hammer.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 12:20 PM (Sfs6o)

59 Well, yes - if I had a hammer.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 12:20 PM (Sfs6o)

I have a hammer.
Posted by: Maxwell at February 11, 2018 12:21 PM (9SkN+)

Y'all are hilarious.

Posted by: m at February 11, 2018 02:58 PM (VKsXm)

629 http://bit.ly/2G4oLEz
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Boom! GOP House Intel Member Drops Bomb on Judge Jeanine: You're Going to Hear a Lot More About Bill Priestap
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Paging JackStraw

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 11, 2018 02:58 PM (y3aQB)

630 Is this the food thread now?

Posted by: The Tide Hat at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM


Sure. Best recipe that includes a Tide Pod in the ingredient list is the winner of Plutonium Level membership.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 02:59 PM (2FqvZ)

631 Trump owns stock in the parent company of Tide the killing Pod maker.


Posted by: This is CNN at February 11, 2018 02:59 PM (3BFzK)

632 NASCAR Clash (formerly Bud Pole Shootout) starting on FS1 imminently
Posted by: Methos at February 11, 2018 02:54 PM (XQvuQ)

For those with cable.

Dropped cable last Fall. NASCAR is what I will probably miss most. That and F1. But I can stream F1 via hacks from Europe.

But NASCAR's youtube channel shows replays the next week. After the guys at Door - Bumper -Clear have told me what was important.

Posted by: golfman at February 11, 2018 02:59 PM (48QDY)

633 well, i am hungry.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:59 PM (Z8j2x)

634 My kids got their mouths washed out with soap for cussing. I only had to apply that punishment once for them to get the message.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 02:57 PM (FTXAT)

I got beat for cussing, even if I'd learned it from my parents and had no idea it was a beating offense.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (NWiLs)

635 I can sorta kinda almost understand a certain level of concern about Tide Pods as far as little infants are concerned. Infants, young toddlers, whatever. They'll eat anything that isn't nailed down. And they'll gnaw on half the stuff that IS nailed down. So there's that.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 02:57 PM (jnLXM)


Would they, though, if it tastes like laundry detergent? I legitimately don't know. Ethylene glycol is supposed to be dangerous because it both looks and tastes delicious, but if something looks like a big squishy candy but tastes terrible, would kids still keep on eating it?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (y87Qq)

636 Sure. Best recipe that includes a Tide Pod in the ingredient list is the winner of Plutonium Level membership.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 02:59 PM (2FqvZ)

You would think Tide Pods would be best used as garnish.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (ycWCI)

637 brb, seeing if there is a tide pod in the house.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (Z8j2x)

638 Fifteen minutes after eating a Tide Pod, my piss smells funny.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (3BFzK)

639 634. Not knowing what is and isn't a beating offense is a beating offense.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:01 PM (fA1SL)

640 638 Fifteen minutes after eating a Tide Pod, my piss smells funny.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (3BFzK)

And then you're hungry again.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:01 PM (ycWCI)

641 You would think Tide Pods would be best used as garnish.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (ycWCI)



they make a wonderful topping for banana splits.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2018 03:01 PM (9q7Dl)

642 Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (Z8j2x)

Someone else in your house buys the laundry detergent?

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:01 PM (C4l4A)

643 mnemonics.. do we really have to remember this again?

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 02:57 PM


I looked at it this way, if the teacher was bothering to teach a mnemonic it was certain to be needed on the next test.

Every good boy deserves favor.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 03:01 PM (2FqvZ)

644 Note to self: screen out Tide pod recipes in any future editions of The Deplorable Gourmet.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 03:01 PM (kNasr)

645 638 Fifteen minutes after eating a Tide Pod, my piss smells funny.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (3BFzK)

Like lilac spring.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:01 PM (NWiLs)

646 638 Fifteen minutes after eating a Tide Pod, my piss smells funny.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (3BFzK)

But that toilet bowl is clean!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:01 PM (ycWCI)

647 would kids still keep on eating it?
Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (y87Qq)

I don't have domesticated kids of my own, only observations of children in the wild, so I can't say with authority.

But I do know that a lot of kids will grab something and gruffle the whole thing in one go before their little olfactory cortices have a chance to find out what it tastes or smells like.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 03:02 PM (jnLXM)

648 -
--

Fifteen minutes after eating a Tide Pod, my piss smells funny.


Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 11, 2018 03:00

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Spring Fresh?


Posted by: irright at February 11, 2018 03:02 PM (RVcmP)

649 Posted by: Every Democrat Voter Everywhere at February 11, 2018 02:58 PM (9q7Dl)

Wffdhkvfe gddyvsri yursxcobds 4fh$ Ghm56//re.

Posted by: Malfunctioning Nancy Pelosi at February 11, 2018 03:02 PM (QUtQ6)

650 Rocket Roller Skates

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5ygq9x

Posted by: DaveA at February 11, 2018 03:02 PM (FhXTo)

651 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:01 PM (fA1SL)

Only if you pick your toes in Poughkeepsie.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:02 PM (C4l4A)

652 Is there a Tide Pod recipe in the cook book?

Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 03:02 PM (weSWO)

653 639 634. Not knowing what is and isn't a beating offense is a beating offense.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:01 PM (fA1SL)

My childhood was a bit Kafkaesque, among other things.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:02 PM (NWiLs)

654 But I do know that a lot of kids will grab something and gruffle the whole thing in one go before their little olfactory cortices have a chance to find out what it tastes or smells like.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 03:02 PM (jnLXM)
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Sigh. As someone who had to call the Mr. Yuck people regularly there for a while, I can attest to this.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 03:03 PM (kNasr)

655 I have to eat a 1/2 pound of asparagus to get my piss to smell like...well...piss.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 11, 2018 03:03 PM (3BFzK)

656 I can sorta kinda almost understand a certain
level of concern about Tide Pods as far as little infants are concerned.
Infants, young toddlers, whatever. They'll eat anything that isn't
nailed down. And they'll gnaw on half the stuff that IS nailed down. So
there's that.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 02:57 PM (jnLXM)



Would they, though, if it tastes like laundry detergent? I
legitimately don't know. Ethylene glycol is supposed to be dangerous
because it both looks and tastes delicious, but if something looks like a
big squishy candy but tastes terrible, would kids still keep on eating
it?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (y87Qq)

They put the pods in child-proof bags with locking clips to keep actual babies/toddlers from being harmed. The problem ones eating the pods are idiots old enough to get the bags open but still too stupid to know not to eat laundry detergent (and really, really stupid not to be deterred by the taste).

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 03:03 PM (FTXAT)

657 Spring Fresh?


Posted by: irright at February 11, 2018 03:02 PM (RVcmP)

Think I need to go to the doctor. I first read that as 'Spring Flesh' and I was wondering where you were going with this.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:03 PM (ycWCI)

658 Maybe children should be assigned adults to watch over them.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 03:03 PM (hv9Rf)

659 653.
* sits up *

YOU'RE JOSEPH K?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:04 PM (fA1SL)

660 I saw Tide Pods open for Tea 08 across the nation, its Tides fault the drawer is goopy. Get the hose.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 03:04 PM (7ZiDC)

661 My childhood was a bit Kafkaesque, among other things.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:02 PM (NWiLs)

When your mom buys you a copy of Catch 22 for your 5th birthday, it is a clue.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:05 PM (ycWCI)

662
i like barley.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 11, 2018 02:49 PM (Pg+x7)


I had bori-cha for breakfast.

I loved barley stew as a winter crock pot dinner. It smells wonderful when it is cooking and you can put pretty much anything in it.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2018 03:05 PM (2K6fY)

663 "Think I need to go to the doctor. I first read that as 'Spring Flesh' and I was wondering where you were going with this.



Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:03 PM (ycWCI)"

=========
You just are having a bit of the Asian talking disease.

You watch the Korean Olympics too much. You leave now!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 11, 2018 03:05 PM (3BFzK)

664 Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:05 PM (ycWCI)

An instruction manual.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:05 PM (C4l4A)

665 YOU'RE JOSEPH K?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:04 PM (fA1SL)
-----------

Maybe he's trying to tell us he's a cockroach.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 03:06 PM (kNasr)

666 The problem ones eating the pods are idiots old enough to get the bags open but still too stupid to know not to eat laundry detergent (and really, really stupid not to be deterred by the taste).
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 03:03 PM (FTXAT)


* chuckles *

Idiots.

* swirls glass of radiator coolant, takes a sip *

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 03:06 PM (y87Qq)

667 The Curling Team never has a wardrobe malfunction.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 03:06 PM (hv9Rf)

668 Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 03:02 PM (weSWO)

They would pair excellently with Valu-Rite Vodka Sauce.

Posted by: Chef Surfperch at February 11, 2018 03:06 PM (QUtQ6)

669 659 653.
* sits up *

YOU'RE JOSEPH K?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:04 PM (fA1SL)

Heh. Sometimes I might as well have been. Consistency and rationality were not hallmarks of my folks' approach to punishment.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:06 PM (NWiLs)

670 I got beat for cussing, even if I'd learned it from my parents and had no idea it was a beating offense.



Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (NWiLs)

Two of the things about parenting... don't teach kids things that you would punish them for doing AND everyone gets one warning.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 03:06 PM (FTXAT)

671 Chuck Schumer wants to ban Tide Pods? At some point you have enough laws.

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 11, 2018 03:07 PM (5fRCd)

672 665. Nahh....Gregor there just had a bad day.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:07 PM (fA1SL)

673 swirls glass of radiator coolant, takes a sip *

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 03:06 PM (y87Qq)

All those squirrels sampling the drippings in the road can't be all wrong.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:07 PM (C4l4A)

674 665 YOU'RE JOSEPH K?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:04 PM (fA1SL)
-----------

Maybe he's trying to tell us he's a cockroach.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 03:06 PM (kNasr)

Wrong novel. But I am gross.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:07 PM (NWiLs)

675 "My Very Easy Method Just Speeds Up Names".


*********

I think she means "My Very Easy Method Just Speeds Up Names, Probably."

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 03:07 PM (wPiJc)

676

Think of all the secretaries who used to have candy jars on their desks.


Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 03:07 PM (MIKMs)

677 If you ban Tide Pods only criminals will have them.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 03:07 PM (hv9Rf)

678 I think with the banning of Tide Pods we could possibly reach the perfect socialist utopia.

Just kidding we need to ban a lot more things.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 11, 2018 03:08 PM (3BFzK)

679 Save Pluto!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:08 PM (ycWCI)

680 But I am gross.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:07 PM (NWiLs)
---------

I think it has been established that we are all gross here.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 03:08 PM (kNasr)

681 It's a damn shame that the cookbook was published without any Tide pod recipes.

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 03:08 PM (sdi6R)

682 Maybe children should be assigned adults to watch over them.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 03:03 PM (hv9Rf)


God's got that covered... once they hit the age of reason though, all bets are off.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 03:08 PM (FTXAT)

683 Anyone who eats a tide pod spends a night in the box.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:08 PM (Sfs6o)

684 I looked for it at a Harris Teeter the other day and couldn't find it. And yes, Harris Teeter is a dumb name for a grocery store.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 02:55 PM (Sfs6o)

It's no Piggly Wiggly.

Posted by: Downcast at February 11, 2018 03:08 PM (v2Njf)

685 I don't know why anyone would use Tide Pods anyway. I find that the recommended amount of powdered or liquid laundry soap is way more than I need to get clothes clean so I use less. The pod thingies mean that I'd be using more soap than needed so it would cost me a lot more money.

Hang on, I think I just figured out why Tide came up with pods. Aren't they clever?

Posted by: all doubt removed at February 11, 2018 03:08 PM (xj0OI)

686 676

Think of all the secretaries who used to have candy jars on their desks.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 03:07 PM (MIKMs)

Some of them ARE the candy jars.

*I denounce myself*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:08 PM (ycWCI)

687 Mr. DeV. is "watching the Olympics."
While sleeping.

All I see is a bunch of Yurpeans cross-country skiing.
Eh.
This is not a great spectator sport.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 03:09 PM (0jtPF)

688 Anyone who eats a tide pod spends a night in the box.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:08 PM (Sfs6o)


The loud wet one that spins a lot.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 03:09 PM (y87Qq)

689 Hang on, I think I just figured out why Tide came up with pods. Aren't they clever?
Posted by: all doubt removed at February 11, 2018 03:08 PM (xj0OI)

And the pods take up more space and has fewer uses! Those dastardly geniuses!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:10 PM (ycWCI)

690 Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:08 PM (ycWCI)

You can only file your nails for so long.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:10 PM (C4l4A)

691 Two of the things about parenting... don't teach kids things that you would punish them for doing AND everyone gets one warning.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 03:06 PM (FTXAT)

Yeah, well, that wasn't the paradigm I was subject to. Imagine maintaining hypervigilance 24/7 for the first, oh, 12-13 years of your life.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:10 PM (NWiLs)

692
I could see Donald Trump riffing on Pluto:

"Loser planet. Big loser. Low energy. Only goes around the Sun every 10,000 years. If it worked for me it would be fired. "

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 03:10 PM (2FqvZ)

693 Wait, if I force somebody to eat a Tide pod they'll spend the night in my box?

Posted by: Lena Dunham at February 11, 2018 03:10 PM (398bZ)

694
Mnemonics are invaluable. I'm learning the kanji right now, and doing so in finite time without mnemonics is virtually impossible.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 02:47 PM (MjCfq)


Caesar pays no poor soldiers except Gauls that defeated his earnest though youthful legions.

Back to chemistry.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 03:10 PM (kjVQQ)

695 The loud wet one that spins a lot.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 03:09 PM (y87Qq)

My computer won't make a font size big enough for the "PHRASING!" required here.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 03:11 PM (jnLXM)

696 Pluto is a third world shithole.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 03:11 PM (hv9Rf)

697 (652) Crock Pot, taters, carrots, celery, and SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM...

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 11, 2018 03:11 PM (RuIsu)

698 693 Wait, if I force somebody to eat a Tide pod they'll spend the night in my box?
Posted by: Lena Dunham at February 11, 2018 03:10 PM (398bZ)

Have any Hemlock?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:11 PM (ycWCI)

699 In all fairness Tide Pods do somewhat resemble soapapillas.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 03:11 PM (wPiJc)

700 671 Chuck Schumer wants to ban Tide Pods? At some point you have enough laws.

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 11, 2018 03:07 PM (5fRCd)


That's too funny.

Posted by: Incandescent light bulb at February 11, 2018 03:11 PM (75OT0)

701 Posted by: Lena Dunham at February 11, 2018 03:10 PM (398bZ)

Lena that's not how it works, get back in the box!

Posted by: Surfperch at February 11, 2018 03:12 PM (QUtQ6)

702
671 Chuck Schumer wants to ban Tide Pods? At some point you have enough laws.
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 11, 2018 03:07 PM (5fRCd)

CHUCK SCHUMER WANTS TO EXTERMINATE ORCAS!!!!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 11, 2018 03:12 PM (e1mEI)

703 696 Pluto is a third world shithole.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 03:11 PM (hv9Rf)

Ninth world, really.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 03:12 PM (jnLXM)

704 On Old Olympus' Towering Top A Finn And German Viewed A Hop

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 03:13 PM (wPiJc)

705 Has Starbucks introduced Tide Pod Frapaccino?

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 11, 2018 03:13 PM (5fRCd)

706 Yeah, well, that wasn't the paradigm I was subject
to. Imagine maintaining hypervigilance 24/7 for the first, oh, 12-13
years of your life.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:10 PM (NWiLs)

Been there and got the crappy t-shirt too... I used to hide in the closet from my mom when she was in a rage. I vowed though that my kids would never have to hide in a closet from me.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 03:13 PM (FTXAT)

707 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:10 PM (NWiLs)

You had those kind too, huh?

My Father was like Mt. Saint Helena. Quiet and harmless for years then BLOOIE!

My mother was nucking futz. It was like a 26 sided dice roll on what punishment for what crime you got it for.

never got the same thing twice for the same crime.

I still have a nervous tic.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:13 PM (C4l4A)

708 Pluto is not Uranus.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:13 PM (Sfs6o)

709 696 Pluto is a ninth world shithole.
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 03:11 PM (hv9Rf)

FIFY

Posted by: Surfperch at February 11, 2018 03:13 PM (QUtQ6)

710 It was a JJ Op.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 02:58 PM (jnLXM)


P and G, Man. P and freakin' G! Get your story straight.

Procter and Gamble, they are SATAN, they are the Illuminati! There is nothing they will not stoop to do in destroying EVERYTHING.

Poisoning a Senator is NOTHING to them! Wait until they release their army of genetically programmed Downy dryersheet bears upon the world.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2018 03:14 PM (2K6fY)

711 Well I guess we should consider it a victory if the kids in the suburbs have moved from heroin to tide pods

Posted by: NCKate at February 11, 2018 03:14 PM (fVtAn)

712 I thank God every day that I had 'normal', loving parents.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:14 PM (ycWCI)

713 Banning Tide Pods is unacceptable in any sane world. The kids who are eating them (if this is actually true and not a hoax) KNOW they are not eating food. That's the POINT. Goldfish swallowers in 1920 knew they were eating something gross and not meant for consumption.

Anyone dumb enough to eat a Tide Pod will just find some other thing... Horse shit, for example.

Posted by: Gem at February 11, 2018 03:14 PM (XoAz8)

714 Poisoning a Senator is NOTHING to them! Wait until they release their army of genetically programmed Downy dryersheet bears upon the world.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2018 03:14 PM (2K6fY)

The dreaded Snugglestaffel....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 03:15 PM (jnLXM)

715 712 I thank God every day that I had 'normal', loving parents.

Me too.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 03:15 PM (398bZ)

716 Anyone dumb enough to eat a Tide Pod will just find some other thing... Horse shit, for example.
Posted by: Gem at February 11, 2018 03:14 PM (XoAz

The Horse Apple challenge is sweeping the nation!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:15 PM (ycWCI)

717 Pluto is a third world shithole.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 03:11 PM (hv9Rf)




Well, a ninth world shithole.

But, yeah. It's no place to take a vacation.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2018 03:15 PM (9q7Dl)

718 Do you figure his staffers leave piles of horseshit on his desk?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 03:15 PM (hv9Rf)

719 STOP IT!!!

The arbitrary demotion of Pluto was nothing but a plot of Big Textbook.
You should be ashamed for going along with it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 03:16 PM (0jtPF)

720
Mnemonics are stupid.

Posted by: Roy G Biv at February 11, 2018 03:16 PM (2FqvZ)

721 My problem is I can remember the mnemonic but I can't remember what it stands for.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 03:16 PM (wPiJc)

722 I vowed though that my kids would never have to hide in a closet from me.
=====

I hid in the bathroom from my kids. The nasty little creeps then decided to send notes under the door.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 03:16 PM (MIKMs)

723 707 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:10 PM (NWiLs)

You had those kind too, huh?

My Father was like Mt. Saint Helena. Quiet and harmless for years then BLOOIE!

My mother was nucking futz. It was like a 26 sided dice roll on what punishment for what crime you got it for.

never got the same thing twice for the same crime.

I still have a nervous tic.
Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:13 PM (C4l4A)

Your mom sounds about like mine was. Something that would go entirely under the radar one day would get nuclear fire the next. No consistency, no proportionality, no predictability. My dad was more of an enabler to try to keep her off his back. Didn't always work, either. It pretty much sucked ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:17 PM (NWiLs)

724
*shakes fist at surf*


Curse you, surfperch!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2018 03:17 PM (9q7Dl)

725 Didn't always work, either. It pretty much sucked ass.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:17 PM (NWiLs)

*awkward man-hug*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:18 PM (ycWCI)

726 Soapapillas!


I crack myself up.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 03:18 PM (wPiJc)

727 I vowed though that my kids would never have to hide in a closet from me.
=====

I hid in the bathroom from my kids. The nasty little creeps then decided to send notes under the door.


Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 03:16 PM (MIKMs)
LOL

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 03:18 PM (FTXAT)

728 Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 12:23 PM (nAiYt)

If you're still here, there's a little triangular parking lot in the biz district, on the left side of the Saw Mill River Road heading north, immediately after the intersection with Ashford Avenue. It's lined with eateries. I can unreservedly recommend Thai House. Never eaten in the others. I only get to the NYC/Westchester area once a year.

Posted by: lizardbrain - now with extra class at February 11, 2018 03:19 PM (zqw2D)

729 723. Sure, you had insane and abusive parents, but at least you got traumatized by it.

* pours Nespatnik a vodka *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:19 PM (fA1SL)

730 So I was watching the opening ceremony and I wondered whatever happened to the Herpsagobeamians?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 03:19 PM (398bZ)

731 Sounds like my parents. I felt relief when the first one died.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 03:19 PM (hv9Rf)

732 715 712 I thank God every day that I had 'normal', loving parents.

Me too.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 03:15 PM (398bZ)

Thank your lucky stars. The other way fucks you up for life.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:19 PM (NWiLs)

733 At least I never had to eat Kaboom.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 03:20 PM (hv9Rf)

734
I think I discovered my future wifes mnemonic skills on about our third date when she whispered ''Little Tommy Took Pleasure Intromission'' in my ear.

Posted by: Roy G Biv at February 11, 2018 03:20 PM (2FqvZ)

735 Looks like time to leave.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 03:20 PM (wPiJc)

736 730. Srpski REMOVED them.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:20 PM (fA1SL)

737 Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:15 PM (ycWCI)

With all its latexy goodness the one fruit the Indians refused to eat is the next fad diet.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 11, 2018 03:21 PM (QUtQ6)

738 My Mom was a very sweet, gentle soul. A firmer hand may have benefited me.

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 11, 2018 03:21 PM (5fRCd)

739 A little cramped in here aren't we?

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 03:21 PM (aC6Sd)

740 Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 03:19 PM (hv9Rf)

You know how you're supposed to hope people go quietly and without pain when they die?

Not me.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:21 PM (C4l4A)

741 721 Muldoon

Nerves of the cranium?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 03:21 PM (hyuyC)

742 Sure, you had insane and abusive parents, but at least you got traumatized by it.



* pours Nespatnik a vodka *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:19 PM (fA1SL)

Silver lining to every cloud:-P

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 03:22 PM (FTXAT)

743 There's an interesting apologist, J. Warner Wallace, who is a cold case homicide detective in CA.

He uses abductive reasoning (used to make his cases) to try to make the case for Christianity. Personally I do not find it compelling, but it's an interesting take on it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 11, 2018 03:22 PM (/qEW2)

744 735 Looks like time to leave.
Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 03:20 PM (wPiJc)

I was thinking about making a joke on the soapapilla, about using liquid detergent as honey, but got distracted.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:22 PM (ycWCI)

745 After learning the details about dad's brain cancer thurs., being a drunk crying baby thurs. nite, working fri., and being on the pity pot yesterday, found a great new place in town where dad and had breakfast this am. Sauce cooking now, and meat is done, and my first attempt at making pasta is resting. Going to try my hand at making ravioli for the first time.

Posted by: Infidel at February 11, 2018 03:22 PM (FwcYV)

746 Nerves of the cranium?
Posted by: NaCly Dog


*****


Yep.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 11, 2018 03:22 PM (wPiJc)

747 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:19 PM (NWiLs)

And if you're in denial you'll pass it along to others.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:23 PM (C4l4A)

748 747. No, you won't. And pass on what? Nothing happened. Everything is fine.

* day-drinks. Chain smokes. *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:24 PM (fA1SL)

749 A lull, if you will.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:24 PM (ycWCI)

750 "they both have short waist ratio."

Are they roomy? Asking for an old patient.

Posted by: Hannibal Lector at February 11, 2018 03:24 PM (pV/54)

751 I give you the FBI.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2018 03:24 PM (hv9Rf)

752 Caesar pays no poor soldiers except Gauls that defeated his earnest though youthful legions.

Back to chemistry.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 03:10 PM (kjVQQ)


That's a good one. I mumble the periodic table in my sleep, but never really mastered the lanthanides and actinides (I didn't see a lot of point, actually).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 11, 2018 03:25 PM (MjCfq)

753 Take it from last few comments we're glad its not Mother's or Father's day

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 03:25 PM (aC6Sd)

754 when i read of the trauma some of you have experienced with parents, i realize how ungrateful i was to my own mum, she was tough rules, rules and more rules,and i was rebellious , but she was never cruel.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 03:25 PM (Z8j2x)

755 729 723. Sure, you had insane and abusive parents, but at least you got traumatized by it.

* pours Nespatnik a vodka *
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:19 PM (fA1SL)

There's always a bright side.

*slugs*

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:26 PM (qbqnC)

756 753 Take it from last few comments we're glad its not Mother's or Father's day
Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 03:25 PM (aC6Sd)

But maybe looking forward to Memorial Day.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:26 PM (ycWCI)

757 For quite a while during my young adulthood, I felt guilty because we had a bucolic , benign upbringing. Much like the kids depicted on Leave it to Beaver. Of course, Wally and the Beav never got spanked like we did if we really screwed up.

But then I got over it and counted myself lucky.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 03:26 PM (nAiYt)

758 i'm going to split and do somethinggood, like clean the toilets.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 03:27 PM (Z8j2x)

759 After suffering a childhood of abuse we can decide, no, I will NEVER do that to my kids. We can learn from our experiences, and the experiences of others.
Thank God we have free will and a brain. And then there are the leftists.

Posted by: 2nd Post This Thread! at February 11, 2018 03:27 PM (2hs2X)

760 757 For quite a while during my young adulthood, I felt guilty because we had a bucolic , benign upbringing. Much like the kids depicted on Leave it to Beaver. Of course, Wally and the Beav never got spanked like we did if we really screwed up.

But then I got over it and counted myself lucky.
Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 03:26 PM (nAiYt)

I never felt guilty about it. I just thought everyone had that. Oddly enough, I did not realize the opposite was true until I started dating. Damn, women can be cruel to daughters.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 03:28 PM (ycWCI)

761 I was lucky to have a great childhood, complete with a few belt whippings and wooden spoon treatment. *sigh*

Posted by: Infidel at February 11, 2018 03:28 PM (FwcYV)

762 And then there are the leftists.
Posted by: 2nd Post This Thread! at February 11, 2018 03:27 PM (2hs2X)

"Fuggit. YOU raise my kid. I'm off the the carribean."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 11, 2018 03:28 PM (jnLXM)

763 i'm going to split and do somethinggood, like clean the toilets.
Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 03:27 PM (Z8j2x)


Do not eat the scrubbing bubbles!

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 03:28 PM (y87Qq)

764 Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 03:25 PM (Z8j2x)

What's lots of fun is having people tell you that you are mistaken they couldn't have been like that.

I quit telling people for a long time. then I read about that Pelzer guy? Google him and then read his book. You can find online copies of it.

If your parents were even slightly sane you'll go and hug them or at least call them up (if they're still with us) and say so.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:28 PM (C4l4A)

765 Almost 800 comments on a Sunday afternoon.

This thread is so old Willow left it. Damn.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 03:29 PM (r/7B9)

766 Should go read the book thread, usually its the only thread I read top to bottom but way behind today.

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 03:29 PM (aC6Sd)

767 >>>Freaked me right the hell out the first time I did it. But it works.<<<

The first rule of the dowsing club is to never talk about the successes of the dowsing club.

The second rule of the dowsing club is to NEVER TALK ABOUT THE SUCCESSES OF THE DOWSING CLUB!

Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2018 03:29 PM (bJ0w+)

768 *shakes laptop like an etch a sketch*

Need nood!

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 11, 2018 03:31 PM (IMacf)

769 I like to check in at the end of a long thread to see where the long and winding road of Horde fancy takes us.

Tide pods.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 03:31 PM (qJtVm)

770 The Nation

Only now in the age of #NeverTrump do we see that the alphabet wasn't the only reason to put National Review right next to The Nation at newsstands.

Posted by: DaveA at February 11, 2018 03:31 PM (FhXTo)

771 Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2018 03:29 PM (bJ0w+)

That's what's known as confirmation bias. Or at least that's what they'll tell you.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:31 PM (C4l4A)

772 You are here! Traveling Man, see comment #728.

Posted by: lizardbrain - now with extra class at February 11, 2018 03:31 PM (zqw2D)

773 jakee, i don't even know how to respond, unless you had done something so horrendous in life, and i'm sure you didn't i cannot imagine a parent not trying to love their kid.

you know with all their heart and such.

especially a Kid. now a srsly failing adult child i could understand being angry at..

but i.just.can't.even.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 03:32 PM (Z8j2x)

774 I received a daily spanking, with a wooden spoon or a belt, from my mother whether I'd done anything or not. I guess it was just easier that way.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:32 PM (Sfs6o)

775 peace.

bl

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 03:32 PM (Z8j2x)

776 The thread got willowed?

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:32 PM (C4l4A)

777 OH Horde?

I can recommend the movie '12 Strong'..

Hollywood actually made a Pro US Military movie...

I was gobsmacked.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 11, 2018 03:33 PM (NgKpN)

778
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids either.

Posted by: Rocket Man at February 11, 2018 03:34 PM (r+sAi)

779 I love word origins, particularly to observe what words are related that you maybe never realized.

The word forensic initially meant pertaining to or suitable for a court of a law and comes from the same latin root (forensis - place of assembly) as "forum" (public place).

Posted by: Mega at February 11, 2018 03:34 PM (rv0Fo)

780 Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:32 PM (Sfs6o)

Wow. You were lucky. I never knew when or what. Sometimes it would be days. So after a while I just didn't give a shit.

I started to get sane after I left at 17.

(maybe. I'm still not sure)

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:35 PM (C4l4A)

781 Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids either.
Posted by: Rocket Man at February 11, 2018 03:34 PM (r+sAi)
-----
In fact it's cold as hell.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:35 PM (Sfs6o)

782 I guess I should stop I don't want to bring anyone down.

Just give your parents a hug if they were half way human.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:36 PM (C4l4A)

783 What is this thing with the wooden spoon? And why are they so feared? I can't imagine they do that much damage.

I think I was spanked maybe twice by Mom and I bet I richly deserved it. I get a great delight in chiding her for her permissive parenting.

Now, Dad..Dad was Mount Vesuvius.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 03:36 PM (qJtVm)

784 You do know Volvo is Chinese?

Owned by Geely these days.

Posted by: JEM at February 11, 2018 03:36 PM (QDK10)

785
681 It's a damn shame that the cookbook was published without any Tide pod recipes.
Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 03:08 PM (sdi6R)


Volume 2 will have its own Tide Pod sections. Tide Pod Cocktails should be worth the purchase price alone.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 03:37 PM (pNxlR)

786 some asian kid in a gifted student class did a science project about the various iq's of the races.

Hilarity ensued.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:38 PM (C4l4A)

787 I used to get it twice! Once from mom at the time of the offense, and then again when dad came home from work.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:38 PM (Sfs6o)

788 I did not think it possible after all that we have witnessed to date, but the MFM has reached an all-time low cheerleading a monstrous, concentration camp dictatorship because they don't like our President.

We are not an indivisible country any longer.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 11, 2018 03:38 PM (p8Rx3)

789 Kids' developing brains aren't designed to be regularly soaking in stress hormones. Bad things happen.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:38 PM (NWiLs)

790 Thanks for the recommendation Lizardbrain. Not really Keen on Thai food, but maybe just never found a good one.

I wouldn't eat at Chinese restaurants for a long time after one next to where we were working, had laid some fish out to dry on old metal studs we had demoed.

Posted by: Traveling Man at February 11, 2018 03:38 PM (nAiYt)

791 jakee, one last thing, your mom was wrong to do. you didn't deserve it. and hug.

now have to clean bathrooms for real.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 03:38 PM (Z8j2x)

792 I'm going to Montana next weekend just so I can hug my mom and dad.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 11, 2018 03:38 PM (IMacf)

793 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 03:36 PM (qJtVm)

It stings.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:38 PM (C4l4A)

794 bluebell has vowed to do unspeakable things to me if I ever mention a cookbook volume II

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:39 PM (Sfs6o)

795 Hollywood Clint Eastwood actually made a Pro US Military movie...

FTFY

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 11, 2018 03:39 PM (p8Rx3)

796 Thanks willow. I'm ok these days. I can joke about it now and not feel so bad anymore. Took years tho.


Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:40 PM (C4l4A)

797 794 bluebell has vowed to do unspeakable things to me if I ever mention a cookbook volume II
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:39 PM (Sfs6o)
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Wooden spoon things?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 03:40 PM (qJtVm)

798 797
Wooden spoon? You mean like in Gozu?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:41 PM (u1nfH)

799 747 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:19 PM (NWiLs)

And if you're in denial you'll pass it along to others.
Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:23 PM (C4l4A)

Yep. Which is why I swore to myself I would NEVER make my kids go through that shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:41 PM (NWiLs)

800 ---
Wooden spoon things?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 03:40 PM (qJtVm)
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Spork things!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:41 PM (Sfs6o)

801 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 03:40 PM (qJtVm)

SPATULA THINGS!!!!

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:41 PM (C4l4A)

802 797 794 bluebell has vowed to do unspeakable things to me if I ever mention a cookbook volume II
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:39 PM (Sfs6o)
---
Wooden spoon things?


The most unspeakable device ever made.

Hand-cranked egg beater.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 11, 2018 03:42 PM (p8Rx3)

803 Eris, what happened to your handle handle?

Posted by: Mega at February 11, 2018 03:42 PM (rv0Fo)

804 802. Meh.....it's no qerl.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:43 PM (u1nfH)

805
Kids' developing brains aren't designed to be regularly soaking in stress hormones. Bad things happen.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:38 PM (NWiLs)

It makes you really freaking good at reading body language though which does provide a benefit of sorts as an adult.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 03:43 PM (FTXAT)

806 SPATULA THINGS!!!!
Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:41 PM (C4l4A)

The Aunt Jemima Treatment?

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 11, 2018 03:43 PM (IMacf)

807
Boy, search for drill presses - once - like three months ago and all I've been seeing here ever since for ads here are drill press after drill press ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 03:43 PM (pNxlR)

808 Hope between Strzok's wife and high priced lawyer he gets taken to the cleaners.

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 03:44 PM (aC6Sd)

809 Boy, search for drill presses - once - like three months ago and all I've been seeing here ever since for ads here are drill press after drill press ...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 03:43 PM (

--------

I know. You look up busty Lithuanian midget lesbians JUST ONCE...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 03:45 PM (9SkN+)

810 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:41 PM (NWiLs)

Yeah. I get really wound up I see parents in a store wailing on their kid. I hold myself back because I don't know what's happening but it's difficult to stay out of it.

No kid over 3 should be hit with anything. Before then only the flat of the hand and only for doing something that could be deadly to themselves.

No belts, no spoons, no paddles, nothing. Ever.

People who do that are going to Hell. Or wish they were.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:46 PM (C4l4A)

811 "Mnemonics"

A little help here? I can't remember what this means.

Posted by: Exile at February 11, 2018 03:46 PM (Fikbq)

812 805
Kids' developing brains aren't designed to be regularly soaking in stress hormones. Bad things happen.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:38 PM (NWiLs)

It makes you really freaking good at reading body language though which does provide a benefit of sorts as an adult.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 03:43 PM (FTXAT)

I suppose that's true. Of course there are the tradeoffs of higher incidence of depression, generalized and social anxiety, PTSD and, in really bad cases, psychoses.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:47 PM (NWiLs)

813 I pipped WeaselDog on the nose with an index finger the other day and have felt bad about it ever since.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:47 PM (Sfs6o)

814 The thread got willowed?
Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:32 PM

=============================


willow willowed the entire horde

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2018 03:47 PM (EzdLW)

815 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 03:45 PM (9SkN+)

Or google E.D.

I was just curious!

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:47 PM (C4l4A)

816

They're always after me Lucky Pods!

Posted by: Tide O'Flaherty at February 11, 2018 03:48 PM (IqV8l)

817 No kid over 3 should be hit with anything. Before then only the flat of the hand and only for doing something that could be deadly to themselves.

---------

Lesseee, spoons, sticks, belts, paddles, hockey sticks, once even a guitar. (The guitar came out of it worse than I did.)

It's amazing I'm not more screwed up than I am.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 03:48 PM (9SkN+)

818 Johnny Mnemonic is a sci-fi movie I think

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 03:48 PM (aC6Sd)

819 No kid over 3 should be hit with anything. Before then only the flat of the hand and only for doing something that could be deadly to themselves.

No belts, no spoons, no paddles, nothing. Ever.

People who do that are going to Hell. Or wish they were.
Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:46 PM (C4l4A)

I share your feelings on the matter. It's why I get my back up any time I see someone start up with the "Just beat your kids herp derp" shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:48 PM (NWiLs)

820 813 I pipped WeaselDog on the nose with an index finger the other day and have felt bad about it ever since.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:47 PM (Sfs6o)


You are a softie Weasel.

Posted by: Cruella de Ville at February 11, 2018 03:49 PM (/krQw)

821 Okay, for those of you on the edge of your seats wondering who won the x-country ski race I was talking about, --- a Yurpean got the bronze, then another Yurpean edged out a Yurpean for the gold!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 11, 2018 03:49 PM (0jtPF)

822 Lesseee, spoons, sticks, belts, paddles, hockey sticks, once even a guitar. (The guitar came out of it worse than I did.)

It's amazing I'm not more screwed up than I am.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 03:48 PM (9SkN+)

Jesus.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:49 PM (NWiLs)

823 Posted by: Tide O'Flaherty at February 11, 2018 03:48 PM (IqV8l)

They're magically delicious.

*puke* or as the aussies say: a Technicolor yawn.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:50 PM (C4l4A)

824 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 03:48 PM (9SkN+)

Fuck I hope it was an acoustic

Posted by: Mega at February 11, 2018 03:50 PM (rv0Fo)

825 823 Posted by: Tide O'Flaherty at February 11, 2018 03:48 PM (IqV8l)

They're magically delicious.

*puke* or as the aussies say: a Technicolor yawn.
Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:50 PM (C4l4A)

But at least the colors will be clean and vibrant.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:51 PM (NWiLs)

826 'once even a guitar."

EL KABONG!

Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 11, 2018 03:51 PM (IMacf)

827 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:48 PM (NWiLs)

My favorite is "spare the rod spoil the child"

Uh huh.

Put me off the bible right there.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:51 PM (C4l4A)

828
818 Johnny Mnemonic is a sci-fi movie I think
Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 03:48 PM (aC6Sd)


It was, and with Keanu Reeves and Ice T. The herp-detp was strong in it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 03:51 PM (pNxlR)

829 You are a softie Weasel.
Posted by: Cruella de Ville at February 11, 2018 03:49 PM (/krQw)
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Yep, but don't tell anybody!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 03:52 PM (Sfs6o)

830 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 03:48 PM (9SkN+)

Fuck I hope it was an acoustic
Posted by: Mega at February 11, 2018 03:50 PM (rv0Fo)

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Yeah, it was. I still haven't let my mom live it down.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 03:52 PM (9SkN+)

831 I thought today ' The Olympics are on' and 'Why do I care?'

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 03:53 PM (aC6Sd)

832 Drivin' up the comment count here, boss!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 03:53 PM (fA1SL)

833 You're welcome, Traveling Man.

There's also Bella's Trattoria and Calcutta Wrap and Roll in that little triangle.

Aside from that, I know nothing about Ardsley, except that it's a nice-looking little town for being that close to the shithole known as NYC.

Whatever you do while you're there, I hope you have a pleasant visit.

Posted by: lizardbrain - now with extra class at February 11, 2018 03:53 PM (zqw2D)

834 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:49 PM (NWiLs)

I think Cicero wins.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:53 PM (C4l4A)

835 Growing up in an Italian household ~ mom was always in the kitchen cooking. (I am mostly Irish on my Mom's die and Italian on my dad's so we were a definite Italian household). So when you did something wrong she usually had a wooden spoon in her hand and was accurate like an olympic fencer with it to give you a walk even the you tried to avoid here, or were ten feet across the room. Mrs. Redux, who is Colombian, advises that when Colombian kids did things wrong the mother would take off her sandal (Chancla) and throw it. Somehow it would, like a boomerang, return to her hand to be thrown again . . . and had other magic properties, as this short film documents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH5rkSG_Hqk

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 11, 2018 03:54 PM (0YSzp)

836
Still shakin', boss!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 03:54 PM (pNxlR)

837 give you a whack ! Not a walk !! ~ stupid auto cucumber!!

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 11, 2018 03:55 PM (0YSzp)

838 FOOD NOOD.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 03:56 PM (qJtVm)

839
At the church service today, the priest referred to the just-installed officers of the parish as his "horde".

I larfed.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 11, 2018 03:56 PM (pNxlR)

840 Gotta laugh at Hollywood writers.

Like a gang boss cares about letting you hide your nakedness while you poop.

Not. Happening.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:56 PM (C4l4A)

841 838 without a hack.....woohoo!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 03:56 PM (EoRCO)

842 Food nood

This thread was getting to long for my tablet anyway

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 03:56 PM (aC6Sd)

843 Or maybe not.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 03:56 PM (EoRCO)

844
Has anyone pointed out

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/962330457886076928

Told them to re-do and send back in proper form!


Like a Dad treating Schiff like he'd wrote TeaChur sux on his homework, in crayon.

Posted by: DaveA at February 11, 2018 03:56 PM (FhXTo)

845 827 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:48 PM (NWiLs)

My favorite is "spare the rod spoil the child"

Uh huh.

Put me off the bible right there.
Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:51 PM (C4l4A)

The rod was a shepherding tool to push sheep back into the flock if they started wandering off. However, somewhere along the line this got turned into a license for beating the piss out of your kids with a Biblical veneer put on it. Shepherds didn't use the rod to beat the fuck out of their sheep, they used it to guide them and push them back on the path to keep them out of danger.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:57 PM (NWiLs)

846 818 Skip, 828 Krebs
.
After seeing Johnny Mnemonic ~ we nicknamed it Johnny Moronic ~ for obvious reasons.

Damn I hated that movie

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 11, 2018 03:57 PM (0YSzp)

847 sandal (Chancla) and throw it.

There's even a Wilhelm scream.

Posted by: DaveA at February 11, 2018 03:59 PM (FhXTo)

848 827 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:48 PM (NWiLs)



My favorite is "spare the rod spoil the child"



Uh huh.



Put me off the bible right there.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:51 PM (C4l4A)



The rod was a shepherding tool to push sheep back into the flock if
they started wandering off. However, somewhere along the line this got
turned into a license for beating the piss out of your kids with a
Biblical veneer put on it. Shepherds didn't use the rod to beat the fuck
out of their sheep, they used it to guide them and push them back on
the path to keep them out of danger.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:57 PM (NWiLs)

This... God is not advocating child abuse.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 11, 2018 04:00 PM (FTXAT)

849 Like a gang boss cares about letting you hide your nakedness while you poop.

Not. Happening.
Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 03:56 PM (C4l4A)
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WUT.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 04:01 PM (qJtVm)

850 Sign in.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 04:01 PM (ewxPW)

851 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 03:57 PM (NWiLs)

Wow! Thanks. I knew that a shepherds rod was for that. Never put the two together cause yeah i was under the impression that it was an actual rod or dowel like stick.

This was never mentioned in Sunday school.

Now the damn line makes sense.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 04:04 PM (C4l4A)

852 Well, damn. Looks like the Lincoln Town Car I bought has a broken timing chain. Left four cylinders all have some compression. Not enough, but some. And maybe the gauge I am using, which is new to me, is no good.


But all four cylinders on the right bank have effectively zero compression, except the last one. It might have gone to 10 psi. Going to take the cam cover off, and see if the camshaft on that side is even turning.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 04:06 PM (Dbv1R)

853 My mom was a spanker with the belt, Dad was a talker and a lecturer. Sometimes she would go off on him emotionally, which made him less than cooperative sometimes in backing her up when she had a fit.

The last time Mom ever tried to spank with a belt ended up becoming kind of a legend in the family. Really didn't happen much in high school, but once at the end of 16 or maybe just 17 we were home alone, and I pissed her off by telling her I was going out and I was going to do what I was going to do, and she turned red and ran in her room and ran back out swinging that belt at me. I just stood there, put up my left hand and caught the belt in mid swing, then yanked it out of her hand. Then I just said "we ain't doin' this no more." nothing else. It hit her for the first time that I was now a foot taller than her and at least 50 pounds heavier, and you're just not going to beat on somebody who's that much bigger than you are. (I was already bigger than my dad, too - they were ordinary parents who had giant children) She opened and closed her mouth a few times like a goldfish, then went into her room and locked the door for a couple hours.

And that was the end of it, and the end of "the belt", forever.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 04:06 PM (V2Yro)

854 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 04:06 PM (V2Yro)

That eventually almost happened for me.

I grew with a big 3-4" spurt of growth one year. I was now taller than my mom and suddenly she stopped using the belt.

I think she was afraid I would do what you did and start wailing on her. (I wouldn't have. I was a gentle kid for some reason.)


Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 04:11 PM (C4l4A)

855 854 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 04:06 PM (V2Yro)

That eventually almost happened for me.

I grew with a big 3-4" spurt of growth one year. I was now taller than my mom and suddenly she stopped using the belt.

I think she was afraid I would do what you did and start wailing on her. (I wouldn't have. I was a gentle kid for some reason.)


Posted by: jakee308 at February 11, 2018 04:11 PM (C4l4A)

It speaks volumes when they beat on you only when you're smaller and weaker. And I mean "you" in the general sense. You know who else beats on people that are smaller, weaker, and not in a position to fight back?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 04:15 PM (NWiLs)

856 OT-Iowahawk's take on CNN 's fawning about the Korean dictators sister:

Hitler's It Girl Eva Braun Wows Swells at 1936 Olympics

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2018 04:16 PM (8+Ozj)

857 I broke my best wooden spoon over a 12 year old's butt one time. Two days in a row, I came home to find the little twerp had forgotten to turn on the rice copier. The rice and the water were already in the rice cooker, and the thing was plugged in. All he had to do was push the lever down. Twenty some years later, he's still bitching about it. Me? I lost my best wooden spoon. (I lost the rest when the German Shepherd grabbed them off the stove top and chewed them into toothpicks.)

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at February 11, 2018 04:17 PM (N3Tzm)

858 Proverbs 13:24

As noted above, shepherds used the rod to guide their sheep, not to beat them.

Sometimes it's instructive to consult various translations of the bible. For example, the Contemporary English version says:

"If you love your children, you will correct them; if you don't love them, you won't correct them."

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 04:17 PM (398bZ)

859 A kid's brain is directly connected to it's rear end. To get the kid's attention, it is occasionally necessary to apply the flat of your hand to said rear end.I

Believe me: before we had kids, Himself and I thoroughly believed that a gentle talking to was infinitely superior to a physical response. Our children were going to be the most perfectly raised kids in the entire world. But as they say, no plan ever survives contact with the enemy. But I had rules for myself, unlike my parents. No hitting the face, butt only, and mostly flat of hand.

One time they pissed me off so badly, I threw my best iron skillet down on the cement porch, breaking it in half. Scared the bloody bejabbers out of the lot of them. But, as I explained to Himself later, at least I didn't smack any one of them. I do miss that skillet, though. Best chicken fryer I ever had.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at February 11, 2018 04:34 PM (N3Tzm)

860 I am currently a participant in a scientific sleep study.

Posted by: J. Sessions at February 11, 2018 05:08 PM (r9UYA)

861 by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at February 11, 2018 04:17 PM (N3Tzm)

You broke a spoon on him for forgetting to do something?

Posted by: Ha at February 11, 2018 05:55 PM (MAstk)

862 I submit to you the "science" of Psychology is no science at all.

Posted by: Shoey at February 11, 2018 06:13 PM (bBE6d)

863 861 : The spoon was handy, and yes I did. It wasn't just forgetting to push the button, it was the attitude that went with the forgetting and the attitude of the previous couple of weeks.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at February 11, 2018 09:46 PM (N3Tzm)

864 Darned fine thread, here.

Posted by: m at February 12, 2018 12:45 AM (VKsXm)

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