AP: Congress' Insistence on Conducting Legal Oversight May "Cause" Intelligence Agencies to Stop Providing Congress with the Information They are Legally Required to Provide It With

Shorter Deep State: Lawful Congressional actions to hold us accountable jeopardize national security, by which we mean "our job security," so we're now forced to make ourselves even less accountable, and start breaking the law even more brazenly.

But let's get back to that in a moment.

The idea that The Memo will jeopardize intel agencies complying with Congressional demands for information (which they already routinely illegally refuse) is based on the idea that The Memo allegedly revealed national security secrets.

That's a lie. They made that claim when they were seeking to block the release of The Memo, and then, when it came out and it was seen by all that there was nothing compromising to national security in the memo, they pretended they'd never made that dishonest claim about national security and, get this, the media pretended along with them, and completely memory-holed that dishonest claim.

Derek Hunter makes this point in a column titled, bluntly, Journalism Is Dead.


This week we saw a perfect example of how corrupt journalism has become. There was an opportunity to report the news and journalists and their fellow travelers in the pundit class balked. While that wasn't unusual, what was is how they did it in the lead up to the news, not bothering to wait until they'd seen what they were attempting to discredit. There was an unprecedented attempt to make the release of the FISA memo NOT NEWS before anyone knew what was in it.

Over the past two weeks, Democrats scrambled to "warn" the public that the release of the FISA memo would "damage national security" were it released. Journalists picked up the mantra and ran with it, unquestioningly parroting it in badgering Republicans about why they would support its release considering this charge. There was virtually no discussion as to whether or not this allegation was true or an attempted partisan distraction, it was simply accepted and repeated as if it had been carved into stone tablets by a burning bush and sent directly to the teleprompter in their TV studios.

The memo, of course, was nothing of the sort. There was nothing that was a threat in any way to national security, no remote mention of sources or methods. It was all a Democratic Party lie immediately adopted by journalists. As with past false stories that needed to be retracted or corrected, there was no comeuppance for those who spread the lie to the media, nor the media figures who regurgitated it. It happened, and when it was proven to be a lie, it was memory-holed. (This story on the subject to not even mention it.)

The lying by Democrats in the lead up to the memo's release wasn’t surprising, nor was the complicity of journalists in spreading that lie. What was is how there was virtually no curiosity or interest in the memo and its contents in the days leading to its release from the people whose job it is supposed to be to convey information to the public. All journalists did was attempt to taint it’s release so as to foster disinterest in it in their audience when they could finally see it.

Of course, that charge of dishonesty also applies to the intelligence agencies and the FBI. The FBI originally claimed that the memo exposed national secrets, and then later walked that back to "misleadingly omits material information.

But they'd already injected the lie into the public bloodstream, which Democrats were happy to spread further.

Jonathan Turley also wants to know where all this "national security/sources and methods" information is, and why the FBI and intel agencies claimed it was in the memo when it, now obvious to all, was not.


[M]y greatest concern is what is not in the dossier: classified information "jeopardizing national security." Leaders like Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) declared that the committee had moved beyond "dangerous irresponsibility and disregard for our national security" and "disregarded the warnings of the Justice Department and the FBI."

Now we can read the memo. There is a sharp and alarming disconnect between the descriptions of Pelosi and the House Intelligence Committee’s Ranking Minority Member Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and the actual document. It clearly does not contain information that would reveal sources or methods.

The memo reaffirms concerns over the lower standards that apply to FISA applications as well as the misuse of classification authority. Most of this memo references what was already known about the use of the dossier. What was added was testimonial evidence and details to the publicly known information. Yet, the FBI vehemently objected to the release of the memo as threatening "grave" consequences to national security ground.

However, even before the release, the FBI seemed to be objecting to the framing of the facts rather than the disclosure of "sources and methods." The FBI said publicly that it had "grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo's accuracy." That is not an objection to classified material but the fairness of the portrayal. For years, many of us have objected that the intelligence agencies classified material for improper purposes to frame public debate or conceal embarrassing information. Unless there was a material change in this memo, it proved to be an empty "grave" after weeks of overheated hyperbole.

The FBI opposition to declassification of this memo should be a focus of both Congress and the public.

So now we have the intelligence agencies and FBI warning Congress that they may no longer play the game of partial, slow-walked compliance with Congressional subpeonas, but may just cut out the middleman and announce that they are now Sovereign Government Agencies unaccountable to the public and independent of any oversight or direction from the elected branches of government.

Top intelligence and law enforcement officials warn that last week’s release of a congressional memo alleging FBI surveillance abuse could have wide-ranging repercussions: Spy agencies could start sharing less information with Congress, weakening oversight.

Agree to our very stingy idea of what "oversight" is or we will empower ourselves to end constitutional governance as we know it and just declare ourselves oversight-immune.

Lawmakers will try to declassify more intelligence for political gain. Confidential informants will worry about being outed on Capitol Hill.

Christopher Steele was "outed" by his own actions and his own fellow partisans, who wanted to use his supposed "Brand Name" to sell this dodgy dossier.

This "confidential informant" did what few CI's do: He talked to lots of people in the press, under his own name.

Yeah, some "confidential informant."

Remember Starsky and Hutch? Yeah, well, there were zero episodes where their CI "Huggy Bear" did multiple rounds of Press Availabilities with the NYT, CNN, the AP, Mother Jones and fucking Yahoo News.

They guy was basically Lisa Bloom with a British accent.

Press whores don't get to call themselves "confidential informants."

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Former CIA Director Mike Hayden worries that the memo’s release will damage congressional oversight and the effectiveness of law enforcement.

"We are chiseling away at processes and institutions on which we currently depend-- and on which we will depend in the future," said Hayden, who has worked for both Democratic and Republican administrations.

Again, the "processes and institutions" he's talking about being weakened are the FBI and intel agencies acting as if they are sovereign entities that answer to no authority but whatever political stooge happens to have been appointed as their boss for 4 or six years.

As far as the public, the Congress, and the President: Fuck them. What do they know? We're the Priesthood of Intelligence. No one gets to contradict us, critique us, or even us orders.

Who knows, maybe that's been their goal all along. Or maybe they were just operating 99% under that mindset and now, peeved by someone challenging their 99% lack of accountability, are threatening to unconstitutionally arrogate to themselves the status of being fourth, fifth, and sixth co-equal branches of government, that are really better than the other three branches, because they're entirely untainted by that "democratic election" and "consent of the governed" and "public accountability" baggage.


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1 I'll get the others

Posted by: fish...the lowercase one at February 06, 2018 03:32 PM (83Z0B)

2 Clown Nose On, Clown Nose Off.

Posted by: Jimmy Pimple at February 06, 2018 03:32 PM (vtcmf)

3
Mark Steyn had a great, and frightening rejoinder to all this. To wit, we now have gone from legitimate police activities to having a secret police.

This is not a good situation.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:32 PM (mbhDw)

4 Sounds like an illegal strike/work stoppage to me.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 06, 2018 03:33 PM (ATVNj)

5 I don't think the Deep State is smart enough to play this game. Lord knows they haven't shown much to date.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Swamp Waders 50% Off at the Outrage Outlet! at February 06, 2018 03:33 PM (hLRSq)

6 If they're behind bars, they can use that as the excuse why they can't comply with Congress's requests. Let's give them that to use.

Posted by: Roy at February 06, 2018 03:33 PM (7n4KQ)

7 "...Again, the "processes and institutions" he's talking about being weakened are the FBI and intel agencies acting as if they are sovereign entities that answer to no authority but whatever political stooge happens to have been appointed as their boss for 4 or six years...."


Provided that the boss is a Democrat, or at least a Deep State member like maybe Dubya. Maybe. If they behave.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:34 PM (mbhDw)

8 They're launching Falcon live on the Science Channel.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 06, 2018 03:34 PM (O5Q3r)

9 Former CIA Director Mike Hayden worries that the memos release will damage congressional oversight and the effectiveness of law enforcement.
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Hayden is a chump. Pure Deep State.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 06, 2018 03:34 PM (ATVNj)

10 It's time to shut down the FBI.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 06, 2018 03:34 PM (QQ+il)

11 5 I don't think the Deep State is smart enough to play this game. Lord knows they haven't shown much to date.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Swamp Waders 50% Off at the Outrage Outlet! at February 06, 2018 03:33 PM (hLRSq)


Don't tempt them into finding an Oswald or Hodgkinson.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:35 PM (mbhDw)

12 Live vid of Falcon Heavy



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 06, 2018 03:35 PM (sjdRT)

13 This is all schiff, he is driving this *story*.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 06, 2018 03:35 PM (+Dllb)

14 The Left: Public employees (FBI officials) shouldn't be personally held accountable for their actions because it'd be dangerous if they did, and also suggesting that they have any sort of agenda beyond service to this country is conspiracy talk.

Also The Left: Public employees (policemen) can't be trusted to do their job, and are also institutionally racist.

Posted by: joe, living dangeroulsy at February 06, 2018 03:35 PM (KUaJL)

15 You asked for a miracle, I give you the F...B...I

Posted by: wooga at February 06, 2018 03:36 PM (RMlYr)

16 Sessions needs to fire everyone in the FBI in a supervisory position and start over.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 06, 2018 03:36 PM (mpXpK)

17 A bit of sunlight is a good thing , a lot of sunlight sometimes is better.

Posted by: Skip LIIven the Dream at February 06, 2018 03:36 PM (aC6Sd)

18 Good grief. So now the media is just fine with Constitutional subversion when it fits their political predilections?

There was a time when we called this treasonous, and people were hung for it.

Maybe it's time to bring that back as a reminder to what happens when you try to undermine our constitutional republic.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 06, 2018 03:36 PM (VpIIl)

19
Democrats and the media being BFF's with law enforcement can't be sitting well with their hard left base.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 06, 2018 03:36 PM (lKyWE)

20 "Your right to oversight only exists so long as you don't exercize it, like the Queen's power to dissolve Parliament"?

Thus implying that the intelligence community sees itself as a governing body.

'K.

Posted by: Sporkatus at February 06, 2018 03:36 PM (HtLSE)

21 If our government is declaring its independence from us, a decent respect for the opinions of mankind suggests they should tell us why.

Or something like that.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (LISuA)

22 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:32 PM (mbhDw)

Have you updated your star chamber list?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (r8Hiq)

23 T- 2:00 on the SpaceX liftoff

Posted by: illiniwek at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (bT8Z4)

24 AP: Congress' Insistence on Conducting Legal Oversight May "Cause" Intelligence Agencies to Stop Providing Congress with the Information They are Legally Required to Provide It With


They were instituted by congress, they are funded by congress. If they are not fulfilling their mission they should be abandoned.

Congress, learning from it's errors, could institute new agencies with better guidance.

Posted by: gNewt at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (nDdGQ)

25 Did anyone just hear Shep???

Posted by: Robert Plant at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (7uYFy)

26 3 minutes to launch I think

Posted by: Skip LIIven the Dream at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (aC6Sd)

27 DJIA = +564. It's a madhouse!

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (RD7QR)

28 Hayden ignores the fact that there are FBI agents who are pissed off about fellow agents pulling this crap and hijacking the finest law enforcement agency in the world.

I think the FBI will survive, but I know the only way to save the agency is to clean house of the self-serving autocrats. The FBI is not an entity unto itself. It is there to enforce the laws and obey the laws.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (ATVNj)

29 We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House indeed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (ycWCI)

30 17. Bottled sunshine is best of all.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (fA1SL)

31 Journalism is Dead?

No, it died a long time ago. It's now a festering, rotten corpse.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (VpIIl)

32 He said it will launch into space UNLESS IT BLOWS UP ON THE PAD!

What an asshole.

Posted by: Robert Plant at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM (7uYFy)

33 The congress needs to strangle these agencies with the purse strings.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM (aVYsC)

34 Old and busted: government of the people, for the people, by the people

New Hotness: government of you by and for your betters

Posted by: joe, living dangeroulsy at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM (KUaJL)

35 13 This is all schiff, he is driving this *story*.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 06, 2018 03:35 PM (+Dllb)


Merely the mouthpiece. But he's on board and with the program 100% for sure.

And that Democrat "meme-o" is chock full of real secret sources and processes so as to make PDT redact it or prevent its release to the point that Schill-for-brains can bleat "see, look, he's hiding something from the American people."

Bastard.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM (mbhDw)

36 It's for our own good really. They're protecting us from having to worry our soft little heads about what our government is doing to us. Thanks, government.

Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM (AsERU)

37 Here's the problem:
You can't trust anyone in this scenario.

You can't trust the media. They will publish any fucking thing....the names of confidential agents, secret weapons, intel operations...anything.

You can't trust Congress. Same leak problem, you want the enemies of America to know our deepest secrets? Tell them to Congress. This is nothing new, this has been a problem going back to WW 2 and further back probably.

You can't trust the Intelligence Agencies. They will also leak, when it suits their purposes. And not their disinformation purposes, you can and should use information as a weapon against our enemies. But they will leak info to help the Democratic party. Or to help increase their budget. Or to damage rival agencies inside the government. Then there's the spying, the stealing, the killing...not inflicted on our enemies, no, on the citizens.

Figure this Gordian knot out if you can. Because not one of these three cords can be relied on.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM (xJa6I)

38 Shorter DeepState: HAIL HYDRA!

Posted by: Fen at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM (q7HOG)

39 But then again, I could be a mole sent in by the Deep State to confuse, demoralize, and ultimately betray you.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Swamp Waders 50% Off at the Outrage Outlet! at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM (hLRSq)

40 25 Did anyone just hear Shep???
Posted by: Robert Plant at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (7uYFy)

Is there a bustle in his hedgerow?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM (ycWCI)

41
The FBI - We're not going to take one of our spies, create a story about him colluding with the Russians, add some Sid Blumenthal Penthouse Letters-worthy salacious fantasy, go before a FISA court, get a wiretap on Trump Towers, and tell you about it again.

Nana-na-na-na-a.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM (2FqvZ)

42 DJIA = +564. It's a madhouse!
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (RD7QR)

It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World

And don't kick the bucket

Look for the Big W

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM (5y11N)

43 Congress has the power of the purse, yes?

There all kinds of things they've ceded to the other branches, especially the Executive (and not just the Presidency).

I don't like where this is headed-- too many bad options.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 06, 2018 03:39 PM (hXeKX)

44 Also, "if you hold us accountable we'll stop doing our job" isn't exactly a line of reasoning designed to build trust.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 06, 2018 03:39 PM (RD7QR)

45 22 22 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:32 PM (mbhDw)

Have you updated your star chamber list?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 06, 2018 03:37 PM (r8Hiq)


Not lately. Not much really has changed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:39 PM (mbhDw)

46 That's why you've got to lock up some of these bastards. It might discourage the rest from breaking the law.

Posted by: wth at February 06, 2018 03:39 PM (HgMAr)

47 This is all schiff, he is driving this *story*.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
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Well if this story stays out front maybe the story of the male prostitute found dead in a Schiff donor's home won't see the light of day.

Posted by: Dang at February 06, 2018 03:39 PM (8b+oT)

48 i had a crush on starsky.

Posted by: concrete girl at February 06, 2018 03:39 PM (C6eZV)

49 Good let the Intel agencies misbehave...easier to fire them all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 06, 2018 03:39 PM (5y11N)

50 Here we go - Falcon Heavy

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 06, 2018 03:39 PM (fA1SL)

51 Frankly, at this point I wouldn't care that much if it actually *was* compromising to national security. I don't want that to happen, certainly; but our nation was conceived as a land of liberty, not as a security state. If the price of security is having our government branches lying to us and committing crimes against the Constitution and American citizens--then that's a price we shouldn't be paying.

Posted by: T at February 06, 2018 03:39 PM (jKrbw)

52 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:34 PM (mbhDw)

So even you with the BDS? Shakes head with disappointment.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 06, 2018 03:40 PM (r8Hiq)

53 Let's just call this what it is, shall we? This is the Deep State responding to an existential threat to its self-arrogated sovereignty.

This is Leftist America. Its three branches of Government are the Deep State, Academia, and the Media. It has no ruling document, only a shifting set of rules and regulations which change daily, in accordance with its needs.

This is the "America" they speak of. It is not the America we know. It is the system that forms the satrapy for the lands and the people within it, as part of their nascent Global Governance.

And it is long overdue that it be dealt with accordingly.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, CAPRICAN STEEL! at February 06, 2018 03:40 PM (AM1GF)

54 46; none of these words make sense the way you strung them together.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 06, 2018 03:40 PM (KP5rU)

55 If we weren't actually living here and in danger of falling under the thumb of these tyrants, it would be extraordinarily interesting seeing how this is all going to play out.

Every week it seems like the media is cawing that what was down last week is now up, what was good is now bad. Almost every day there's a new level of panic from the Deep State.

And all this because a select few people are actually pushing for the truth and refusing to back down. Can you imagine what might happen or be revealed if we get more fighters in important positions?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 06, 2018 03:40 PM (72PAC)

56 43 Congress has the power of the purse, yes?

There all kinds of things they've ceded to the other branches, especially the Executive (and not just the Presidency).

I don't like where this is headed-- too many bad options.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at February 06, 2018 03:39 PM (hXeKX)


I can imagine if that Leftist hack at the CFPB were still in charge, she'd claim the FBI and CIA are part of the CFPB and just divert funds from the US Treasury direct to finance them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:40 PM (mbhDw)

57 Hayden is a Deep State thought leader.

Posted by: gNewt at February 06, 2018 03:40 PM (nDdGQ)

58 Hold them all accountable intel agencys, the media, congress. None of them will enjoy when it comes time to be accountable.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at February 06, 2018 03:41 PM (0OmEj)

59 Mark Steyn had a great, and frightening rejoinder to all this. To wit, we now have gone from legitimate police activities to having a secret police.

This is not a good situation.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:32 PM (mbhDw)


Agree. But trying to see the positive side, so I don't become Eeyore, at least we now know we have a Secret Police. It got outed. Under Hillface, it'd still be secret.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 06, 2018 03:41 PM (2WZeN)

60 It is worse. It is not that 'they' get to do whatever the latest political stooge tells them to do with no congressional oversight. It is that they, at their discretion, get to overrule the latest political stooge with no oversight.

Make no mistake, the 'intelligence community' (all of it is part of the executive branch) is in the midst of a coup against the duly elected head of the executive branch. They are not objecting to Congressional oversight in order to follow the will of POTUS, they are rejecting Congressional oversight in order to oppose the duly elected POTUS.

Posted by: Rather Not at February 06, 2018 03:41 PM (oPogG)

61 In the basic overview, the AP is right: intelligence operations are essentially corrupt by their nature. They lie and conceal and deceive and invent by nature, its their very reason for existence. So they are absolutely going to resent, oppose, and attempt to deceive everyone.

And back in the 70s, I remember well the good arguments for how too much congressional "oversight" and control was bad for intelligence, because too much of it has to be done with as few people as possible being aware of its work. Congress has proven beyond any sane doubt that it cannot be trusted with secrets.

But because of their nature, intelligence operations must have oversight and accountability, because it is way too easy to convince yourself that what you're doing is Too Important For Those People To Understand and since your very job is to break rules and violate basic decency and societal limits (Gentlemen do not read other peoples' mail) that it tends very quickly and easily to get out of control.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 03:41 PM (39g3+)

62 'Falcon Heavy"
Just chosen as a band name by 1,000 garage bands worldwide

Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 03:41 PM (7uYFy)

63 Instead of arguing over things like who gets to watch who do what, just make most of this stuff illegal.

Do you really think the FBI and the Surveillance State prevents Americans from getting hurt by having all of these new powers post-9/11?

I'd rather roll the dice and take my chances.

Posted by: Maritime at February 06, 2018 03:41 PM (lKmt3)

64 Did anyone just hear Shep???

Posted by: Robert Plant
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Is it a new music video.

Posted by: Wooly Bully at February 06, 2018 03:41 PM (nDdGQ)

65 Who knows, maybe that's been their goal all along. Or maybe they were just operating 99% under that mindset and now, peeved by someone challenging their 99% lack of accountability, are threatening to unconstitutionally arrogate to themselves the status of being fourth, fifth, and sixth co-equal branches of government, that are really better than the other three branches, because they're entirely untainted by that "democratic election" and "consent of the governed" and "public accountability" baggage.


I think it was Stephen Green over at Insty who said screw it, declassify everything but the launch codes and the NOC list.

Yup.

This notion of independent agencies is pernicious and needs torn out, root and all. Should you provide advice that is independent from current political considerations? Yes. But are you independent of oversight? No. No, you are not.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Totally the most innocentest. Hopping all around. at February 06, 2018 03:41 PM (mf5HN)

66 Falcon Heavy took off and didn't blow up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 06, 2018 03:41 PM (fuK7c)

67 We're the Priesthood of Intelligence"

State has considered itself a priesthood of striped pants for a century. Time to move it from Foggy Bottom...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 06, 2018 03:41 PM (SEnIW)

68 Oh yeah, and Congress should cut the shit out of their budgets or specify specifically where it may be spent.

Let's see how the "agencies" like working a Mickie D's.

They want war? They'll get war.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 06, 2018 03:42 PM (VpIIl)

69 So the US is back in the Space Business?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 06, 2018 03:42 PM (5y11N)

70 On the other hand, one would think that threats like this are best if they are not shouted from the press and televisions and are instead made quietly to various people.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Swamp Waders 50% Off at the Outrage Outlet! at February 06, 2018 03:43 PM (hLRSq)

71 52 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:34 PM (mbhDw)

So even you with the BDS? Shakes head with disappointment.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 06, 2018 03:40 PM (r8Hiq)


You think George W. Bush is a saint? After everything we've seen vis a vis his actions and words against PDT?

Look in the mirror when you shake your head.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:43 PM (mbhDw)

72 Don't Panic!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 06, 2018 03:43 PM (fA1SL)

73 What's the word on the street, Johnny?

Posted by: Lt. Drebin at February 06, 2018 03:43 PM (IqV8l)

74 Forget it Jake, it's the AP.

SpaceX live feed playing Bowie.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 06, 2018 03:44 PM (5OEn4)

75 62 'Falcon Heavy"
Just chosen as a band name by 1,000 garage bands worldwide
Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 03:41 PM (7uYFy)

Falconetti, from "Rich Man Poor Man."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:44 PM (mbhDw)

76 It's for our own good really. "

That's pretty much it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 06, 2018 03:44 PM (SEnIW)

77 Cut off their funding. You'll get skewered, but, at this point, the game is up and there's no going back to pretending that 90% are patriotic americans and dedicated servants and all that jazz...

Posted by: The Lonebadger at February 06, 2018 03:44 PM (3/RYc)

78 The biggest problem with the police is that you have to trust other police to watch over them. And they're all in the same game together with a "soldiers vs civilians" attitude, so you're really going to have a hard time trusting cops to police other cops. Corruption cases have to get really out of control before they are finally stopped. Extremely blatant.

There's a great documentary on Netflix called the 87 where they show how an entire precinct in the NYC police department basically went corrupt within months of a new recruit coming in who was essentially just a mobster with a uniform. It took years before they were finally taken down, because the NYPD really didn't want the bad publicity and couldn't believe it was that bad.

When the Justice Department is in it with the President of the USA, who do you get to stop them? How do you police them? What force is there to keep them in line?

Ultimately, only the voters.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 03:44 PM (39g3+)

79 I wonder where Macho Man Randy Savage shopped for his clothes.

I need a new look.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 03:44 PM (xJa6I)

80 Shut them down.

All of them.

Completely.

If a year on we decide we need a federal LEO organization and a collection of spooks, we can build anew.

These agencies are hopelessly compromised.

Shut. Them. Down.

Posted by: DocJ at February 06, 2018 03:44 PM (NYS7S)

81 Figure this Gordian knot out if you can. Because not one of these three cords can be relied on.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM (xJa6I)


Honestly ? Pretty damned easy.

QUIT TYING THESE FUCKING KNOTS !!!

Republicans ... and yes, I'm talking to a ton of you people directly Yes - You - The Horde. Especially the Baseball, Hot Dog, Apple Pie, and Chevrolet Lovin' bunch that never misses a chance to Virtue Signal your love of Authority in all it's Federal, State, Local ... and Hell, even Corporate forms.

You people bring this shit down on your own heads. You don't sell the rope to hang yourselves with ... you insist on making the damned thing then paying to maintain it.

If you'll ever stop giving Power to others to weild over yourselves ... in the comically stupid quest to somehow have somebody else make you safe ... this shit will stop.

But not until. Not until you ... Yes - YOU ... stop fucking slobbering in your fandom of Authority.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 06, 2018 03:45 PM (fiGNd)

82 They want war? They'll get war.

I'm tired of them pissing and posturing.
Throw the first punch, let's get this party started.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at February 06, 2018 03:45 PM (RHEDC)

83 Somebody should let SpaceX know that all their engineers look male. What the hell?! Why do they hate women?

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at February 06, 2018 03:45 PM (LISuA)

84 Falconetti, from "Rich Man Poor Man."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:44 PM (mbhDw)

I was thinking the same thing.
When i was a kid, I thought the character was "Falcon Eddie"

Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 03:45 PM (7uYFy)

85 Early George Webb on YouTube has been screaming about the abuse of Confiential Informants since WikiLeaks was released. Reform it or get rid of them all together. Also foreigner CIs running ops inside our country for our institutions need to be under a microscope and banned. It's abuse of power all the way down.

Shit is way worse than most people can or want to image.

Posted by: Monk at February 06, 2018 03:45 PM (g4lFK)

86 National Security is a lie. The alphabet agencies don't protect the country, they act on behalf of the council of foreign relations and similar groups to control the American population.

The guns aren't pointed outwards toward 'the enemy' they are pointed inward, towards us their real enemy.

Posted by: Jihadi at February 06, 2018 03:45 PM (twG1r)

87 I still don't get what the dems and intelligence agencies big beef with the memo is.

It looks, on the surface, that they may have bent the FISA court system to get what they wanted. I sincerely doubt Carter Page is a Russian spy - just listen to the guy talk. So some over zealous FBI dudes went overboard, and used the silly Steele dossier to get a warrant to listen in on a nobody. They should get a good hand slap - they deserve it.

Why is that controversial?

Posted by: Dean Wormer at February 06, 2018 03:45 PM (fftfA)

88 What we need is a new policing agency to watch over the agency we have watching over the police.

Posted by: gNewt at February 06, 2018 03:45 PM (nDdGQ)

89 Now I want to caution all my right leaning friends to NOT cast aspersions on these fine and honored institutions.

We must defer to them, THIS IS NOT WHO WE ARE!

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 03:46 PM (IYHxL)

90
Let's keep pretending that obama wasn't George Bush's legacy.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 06, 2018 03:46 PM (Mh+OQ)

91 Even Nixon couldn't get the FBI to do what he wanted, but Obama, they were falling all over themselves to anticipate what he might want and doing it without being asked. Is like All The President's Men, but in every branch of the executive instead of just the oval office.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 03:46 PM (39g3+)

92 People acriss the political spectrum should be very concerned,instead they are like "Yeah,suck it Trump!"

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 03:46 PM (LiyEm)

93 Never forget...

The only reason we're finding out about any of this is because The Bitch of Benghazi lost.

Posted by: DocJ at February 06, 2018 03:47 PM (NYS7S)

94 What has the FBI really done for America?

Shut down Martha Stewart for some insider trading?

The agency is a complete joke.

Posted by: Maritime at February 06, 2018 03:47 PM (lKmt3)

95 The FBI is not in the constitution.

They are not a co equal branch of government.

Out of control clerks with guns.

Tear it down.

Posted by: simplemind at February 06, 2018 03:47 PM (REjN3)

96 78 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 03:44 PM (39g3+)

Yup. That was the Mollen Commission case. 20 years or so after the Knapp Commission and Frank Serpico.

Institutions aren't necessarily corrupt. It's the people in them and the temptations they have. You have to start with the premise that human beings are fallible and try to design systems and processes that can keep them in check as best as they can.

But given Obama and the Leftward trajectory of the nation since at least 1965, that was always going to be problematic because the corruption is ideologically motivated more than it is money.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:47 PM (mbhDw)

97 Damn, that is pretty impressive on the space x thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 06, 2018 03:47 PM (ycWCI)

98 Oh, that is so cool!!

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (LISuA)

99 they are now Sovereign Government Agencies unaccountable to the public
and independent of any oversight or direction from the elected branches
of government.
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The Roman practice of decimation looks better and better every day.

Posted by: Methos at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (XQvuQ)

100 This is a coup, or beer putsch. Bring in the Hessians, or Prussians, or whatever. Run 'em down in the streets. Beanbags to the nutzack if needed.

Posted by: Eromero at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (zLDYs)

101 http://bit.ly/2GWcZ0w
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Jim Jordan Reveals Key Figure Involved In Benghazi Involved In Steele Dossier
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Initials are SB

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (y3aQB)

102 Uh.... isn't the memo PROOF that Congressional Oversight actually worked for once?

There was clear abuse, the has NOT been addressed by the DOJ or FBI...

The ONLY reason the public, who is coming up on election season, knows ANY of this, is because of Freedom of Information Act requests, which then got Congress off their ass to investigate.

Democracy dies in Darkness... I read somewhere...

Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (NgKpN)

103 A bit of sunlight is a good thing , a lot of sunlight sometimes is better.


And jellied gasoline is best of all.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (QQ+il)

104 WOW both falcon Rockets landed

And now the Core Rocket?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (5y11N)

105 Dear FBI.

Well, this is really embarrassing! We are really ashamed to admit this but...well... we lost something pretty important this week, the authorization funding your organization. So...until we can find that authorization, we are afraid you are not getting paid.

Rest assured we will look really, really hard for that authorization. In fact, I suspect we will find it soon after you find those text messages from that Shreck guy and the lawyer he is banging.

Good luck with your search and we will do the best we can with ours.

Your friends (and the people who authorize your fucking salaries!)
House of Representatives of the United States.

Posted by: JB1000 at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (16OL0)

106 Our media puts Pravda to shame and I would say that Pravda had more honor because they were lying under duress.

Posted by: LGoPs at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (UThOJ)

107 It's sad to me that Sessions has expressed full confidence in Wray; Wray, of course, was opposed to the memo release. Why? We the people can't handle the truth? We can't make judgement calls?

Wray does nothing to restore some confidence in the FBI. If anything, he further degrades it. Just another FBI hack protecting his own crew at the expense of openness and honesty.

Sorry FBI, but there are waaaay too many skeletons in your closet for business as usual.

As to all the other NS agencies, we know that TFG burrowed many Leftoid moles into key near-unfirable roles. These creeps are never going to be cooperative and act in the national interest.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (0ogQG)

108 Is Eton Musk going to drive his car home from wherever the Falcon Heavy takes it?

Posted by: Skip LIIven the Dream at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (aC6Sd)

109 Wow! Look at that

Posted by: tu3031 at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (O5Q3r)

110 84 Falconetti, from "Rich Man Poor Man."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:44 PM (mbhDw)

I was thinking the same thing.
When i was a kid, I thought the character was "Falcon Eddie"
Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 03:45 PM (7uYFy)


Also reminds me of a Southside Johnny and Springsteen knock-off band from my college radio days called Billy Falcon's Burning Rose. They didn't suck, and one or two tunes were better than Springsteen and Johnny, even.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (mbhDw)

111 National Security is a lie. The alphabet agencies don't protect the country, they act on behalf of the council of foreign relations and similar groups to control the American population.

The guns aren't pointed outwards toward 'the enemy' they are pointed inward, towards us their real enemy.
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Reminds me of what a friend told me years ago about loss prevention in retail: the focus is on the employee, not the customer.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 06, 2018 03:49 PM (vg8iE)

112 This rot has been underneath for a long time, IMO. Before Obama. Definitely with GWB. And the Clintons are such a mess, almost seems a given.

But JMO, b/c nothing laid out yet to prove it.

Only a battle, like the FBI is setting up with Congress, is gonna help clean it up. That's what gives me hope. If they were all buds, we'd be sunk.

So, let battle commence...

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 06, 2018 03:49 PM (2WZeN)

113 101 http://bit.ly/2GWcZ0w
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Jim Jordan Reveals Key Figure Involved In Benghazi Involved In Steele Dossier
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Initials are SB
Posted by: MISHBOT at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (y3aQB)


Sid Blumenthal. Syd Barret's dead.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:49 PM (mbhDw)

114 86 National Security is a lie. The alphabet agencies don't protect the country, they act on behalf of the council of foreign relations and similar groups to control the American population.

The guns aren't pointed outwards toward 'the enemy' they are pointed inward, towards us their real enemy.
Posted by: Jihadi at February 06, 2018 03:45 PM (twG1r)

Yep. The open and widespread criminality while targeting little,people for Dude Weed is retarded.

It's been growing exponentially worse since JFK was killed.

Posted by: Monk at February 06, 2018 03:49 PM (g4lFK)

115 The Fbi has done a ton of good, and I remain convinced that many, probably most of the agents working there are good cops. The problem is, I don't think most of them are good enough cops to risk their careers, pensions, reputations, or lives to whistleblow or deal with the corruption and abuse of power they saw going on around them.

We're at a point where people believe there is no cause worth fighting for, nothing worth risking for, and no evil that you can't stand by and allow if it might endanger your comfort and safety.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 03:49 PM (39g3+)

116 So, do we get a piece of candy for recognizing this first? The deep state won, it will self-perpetuate. "We" can't stop anything.

Congress will not de-fund the agencies just because they don't cooperate.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 06, 2018 03:49 PM (fuK7c)

117 Jim Jordan Reveals Key Figure Involved In Benghazi Involved In Steele Dossier
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Posted by: MISHBOT at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (y3aQB)

Hmmmmm. Rhymes with "Blumenthal?"

Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 03:50 PM (7uYFy)

118 Ask a question and they'll talk
Of secret services
Secrets from the people they should serve
And they can hide their crimes
In a legal disguise
Truth will not be seen or heard


youtube.com/watch?v=p5s9O6qKLLs

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 06, 2018 03:50 PM (6FqZa)

119 Well,Falcon Heavy has proved the earth is flat....

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 03:50 PM (LiyEm)

120 I'm a little unclear how the FBI abuses its power and tries to undermine our national election, not to mention a sitting president, all unlawful and unconstitutional, yet there is no reform commission, or people sitting in handcuffs and we're still nibbling around the edges and groveling at their meager offerings and excuses.

They need a giant dick punch.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 06, 2018 03:50 PM (VpIIl)

121 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (mbhDw)
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Band That I roadied for & ran Sound did 4 SJ & the Asbury Dukes songs

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 06, 2018 03:50 PM (y3aQB)

122 I am going to try that with the IRS this year. Disclosing by filing taxes my obligations may jeopardize my lifestyle and security.

Write me in jail.

Posted by: Cheri at February 06, 2018 03:51 PM (oiNtH)

123 Seriously and no t joking - does it seem to anyone else weird that someone would say to Congress that if they insist on oversight of the agency they will get none at all?

And by weird as in "Why would you say something like that out loud? Are you on crack?"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Swamp Waders 50% Off at the Outrage Outlet! at February 06, 2018 03:51 PM (hLRSq)

124 In the old days we would just take the whole crew out

Posted by: Frank Costello at February 06, 2018 03:51 PM (4u7kU)

125 94 What has the FBI really done for America?

Shut down Martha Stewart for some insider trading?

The agency is a complete joke.
Posted by: Maritime at February 06, 2018 03:47 PM (lKmt3)

"Says you!"

- - Jim Kallstrom, TWA Flight 800 Lead Investigator

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:52 PM (mbhDw)

126 Also reminds me of a Southside Johnny and Springsteen knock-off band from my college radio days called Billy Falcon's Burning Rose. They didn't suck, and one or two tunes were better than Springsteen and Johnny, even.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:48 PM (mbhDw)

And then there was another Springsteen knock-off ---John Eddie and the Front Street Runners.

Mix Billy Falcon and John Eddie and you get......

Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 03:52 PM (7uYFy)

127 Well, Ollie, this is a fine kettle of fish.

Posted by: Norman Kaliflour at February 06, 2018 03:52 PM (ECDXs)

128 It's sad to me that Sessions has expressed full confidence in Wray;




Is this from Sessions interview from Washington Examiner? I've yet to read, but saw it.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 06, 2018 03:52 PM (2WZeN)

129 93 Never forget...

The only reason we're finding out about any of this is because The Bitch of Benghazi lost.
Posted by: DocJ at February 06, 2018 03:47 PM (NYS7S)

Some of us have known it's all theater and the fed government has gone rouge since we were kids.

Like a I say, I assume all the DC players are feasting on raw babies until proven otherwise

Posted by: Monk at February 06, 2018 03:52 PM (g4lFK)

130 Not trying to be snarky about SpaceX, genuinely curious as I've heard both sides here, are they primarily funded by government $$$?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 06, 2018 03:52 PM (72PAC)

131 National security?? That's a hoot!! Didn't care so much when FAB had her home brewed server or all the shit on Weiner's laptop.

Posted by: Cheri at February 06, 2018 03:52 PM (oiNtH)

132 Landing burn! What a show!

I clearly remember the first moon landing trip, and being most anxious about the take-off from the moon, more so than the original liftoff, or the later reentry and recovery. We had no radio in the job trailer I worked out of, so I went to my car out in the lot, and listened to it from there.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 06, 2018 03:52 PM (5OEn4)

133 Seriously and no t joking - does it seem to anyone else weird that someone would say to Congress that if they insist on oversight of the agency they will get none at all?

And by weird as in "Why would you say something like that out loud? Are you on crack?"
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I got their back.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at February 06, 2018 03:52 PM (vg8iE)

134 Honestly, I was willing to give the FBI some goodwill, especially for the rank and file. But tell me, what the hell is the rank and file doing to restore confidence and clean out the subversives.

Answer- nothing.

Until something substantive is done the entire agency can eat a dick.

I have supported law enforcement my entire life and still do. But they are corrupt to their core.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 06, 2018 03:52 PM (VpIIl)

135 Just sent my congressman an email requesting he ask fellow FL congressmen on either IC or Judiciary to ask Rosenstein if he discussed the FISA warrant/obtaining extension with Mueller. Why else would he have signed the last one in July 2017?

Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 03:53 PM (OLS0m)

136 115 The Fbi has done a ton of good, and I remain convinced that many, probably most of the agents working there are good cops. The problem is, I don't think most of them are good enough cops to risk their careers, pensions, reputations, or lives to whistleblow or deal with the corruption and abuse of power they saw going on around them.

We're at a point where people believe there is no cause worth fighting for, nothing worth risking for, and no evil that you can't stand by and allow if it might endanger your comfort and safety.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 03:49 PM (39g3+)


Like the HAL 9000 computer, it's the brains at the top and not the purely autonomic functions that needs to be excised.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 03:53 PM (mbhDw)

137 What we need is a new policing agency to watch over the agency we have watching over the police.
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Trump could call up the national militia.

Posted by: Methos at February 06, 2018 03:53 PM (XQvuQ)

138 It's sad to me that Sessions has expressed full confidence in Wray
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Don't worry-- the guy mumbles a lot of weird stuff while he's sleeping

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at February 06, 2018 03:53 PM (LISuA)

139 The Fbi has done a ton of good, and I remain convinced that many, probably most of the agents working there are good cops. The problem is, I don't think most of them are good enough cops to risk their careers, pensions, reputations, or lives to whistleblow or deal with the corruption and abuse of power they saw going on around them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 03:49 PM (39g3+)


Exactly !!!

If the Rank and File are Good Peeps ? All the more reason to Tear it Down.

Because all these Good Peeps seem to just Do As They're Told. And that's the most dangerous possibility of all.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 06, 2018 03:53 PM (fiGNd)

140 Holy shit, both of those boosters landing simultaneously was awesome!


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 06, 2018 03:53 PM (8iiMU)

141 Former CIA Director Mike Hayden worries that the memo's release will damage congressional oversight and the effectiveness of law enforcement.

The same Hayden that expressed regret that he (and other former) IC muckity-mucks got involved in the 2016 election, dumping on Trump.

"Gee, maybe we shouldn't a done dat" he mumbled.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 06, 2018 03:53 PM (0ogQG)

142 And the press was called the "Fourth estate" for a very good reason. When the three branches of government were wrong, you could rely on the fourth unofficial branch - estate - the press, to call foul and get the public involved. The crusading reporter that writes the story that gets his hands broken and press destroyed. The newspaperman that has to go into hiding after printing the devastating investigative report.

Its not just movies, this stuff really did happen, and change really did take place. A large part of Tammany Hall being taken out finally was due to newspapermen and the biting political cartoons of guys like Thomas Nast.

But when the press is in on it with the government corruption, when they are driven not by a desire for facts and truth but narrative and political ideology... where do we turn?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 03:54 PM (39g3+)

143 http://bit.ly/2GWcZ0w
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Jim Jordan Reveals Key Figure Involved In Benghazi Involved In Steele Dossier
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Amazing how reason and logic unlock almost any mystery.

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at February 06, 2018 03:54 PM (REjN3)

144 We're the Priesthood of Intelligence.
We are the Priests of the temples of Syrinx. All the gifts of spying, are held within our walls.

Posted by: Not a conspiracy because we say it's not at February 06, 2018 03:54 PM (HtLSE)

145 And by weird as in "Why would you say something like that out loud? Are you on crack?"

Posted by: Mikey NTH

Feverish in their desperation. The stuff we don't know about yet must be really bad.

Posted by: Cheri at February 06, 2018 03:54 PM (oiNtH)

146 Looks like we are closing +569

Posted by: Marcus T at February 06, 2018 03:54 PM (VpIIl)

147 I am insulted that the Donkeys think that I am stupid enough to believe that the Donkeys are in any way shape or form concerned with national security.
It was either this or another Python quote.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 06, 2018 03:54 PM (RuIsu)

148 Market closes up 569

Posted by: tu3031 at February 06, 2018 03:55 PM (O5Q3r)

149 There's going to be a huge fight in 2019. The DNC is broke and will get destroyed in the midterms. If they don't the fraud will be obvious.

People are not in a trance anymore. People are ready to start cracking skulls in every county.

Trump winning literally broke the trance and hypnosis many Americans were under. And they are awake and pissed off.

Posted by: Monk at February 06, 2018 03:55 PM (g4lFK)

150 We're perfectly okay with this.

Posted by: GOP Leadership and J. Sessions at February 06, 2018 03:55 PM (r9UYA)

151 Wasn't John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band sort of a Springsteen knock off?

Maybe it was just the tunes they wrote for that movie back in the 1980s. Definitely had that East Coast Jersey bar sound though.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 06, 2018 03:55 PM (4ErVI)

152 So, are there any "the deep state is a wing nut conspiracy" holdouts?

Posted by: bonhomme at February 06, 2018 03:55 PM (rqFgl)

153 Never ascribe to ignorance what can be adequately explained by malice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 06, 2018 03:55 PM (QQ+il)

154 How many cop/spy shows is the "hero" a rogue agent, you breaks the rules to get justice? Every one of these guys sees themselves in that role - the lone wolf, the man with a plan, the truth? You can't handle the truth! Ever notice Jack Bauer tortures a LOT of people?

They are heroes of their own little macho soap opera.

The way you stop this shit, really stop it, is you show them the truth - they are the villains of this set piece.

People are not fighting for power, they are not fighting for politics, they are fighting to preserve their image of themselves as good people, in the know, who are willing to do whatever it takes to protect the American people, even if that means lying, cheating, and attacking those very people.

Look at the sanctimonious POS Comey. Just look at him tweet pictures of the statue of liberty. This is not fake - he really sees himself as a hero.

And that is the fault of Hollywood, the media, and dems in that order. they make these people think they are fucking heroes for breaking the law.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at February 06, 2018 03:55 PM (fftfA)

155 Holy moley.

I can honestly say that I'm glad I have lung cancer instead of a weak heart. I would not have survived that.

Posted by: rickl at February 06, 2018 03:55 PM (xjiRE)

156 De FB and I are berry scarry ,my friend

Posted by: Omar Mateen at February 06, 2018 03:56 PM (4u7kU)

157 So he launched a Tesla Roadster into space. I hope the aliens who find it have a charging station.

Posted by: wth at February 06, 2018 03:56 PM (HgMAr)

158 Congress should respond to the FBI with more stringent rules/laws on how long FBI has to respond to oversight demands. After the deadline passes people start getting fired and/or arrested.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 06, 2018 03:56 PM (bT8Z4)

159 Amazing how reason and logic unlock almost any mystery.
Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at February 06, 2018 03:54 PM (REjN3)

And a certain Razor.....

Posted by: Occam at February 06, 2018 03:56 PM (7uYFy)

160 We're at a point where people believe there is no cause worth fighting for, nothing worth risking for, and no evil that you can't stand by and allow if it might endanger your comfort and safety.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 03:49 PM (39g3+)

US Navy, in the 90's.

Stand up? say anything? and you will never be promoted again.

And as it is Up or Out? you destroyed your career.

Nothing ever said... nothing ever written... but everyone knew the implicit threat... and saw it in action.

Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 06, 2018 03:56 PM (NgKpN)

161 152 So, are there any "the deep state is a wing nut conspiracy" holdouts?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 06, 2018 03:55 PM (rqFgl)

We have at least one here. It's not me however.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 06, 2018 03:56 PM (NWiLs)

162 Holy shit, both of those boosters landing simultaneously was awesome!


That looked like a video game. I'm going to have to see that a few more times to believe that it was real.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 06, 2018 03:56 PM (fuK7c)

163 Seriously and no t joking - does it seem to anyone else weird that someone would say to Congress that if they insist on oversight of the agency they will get none at all?

And by weird as in "Why would you say something like that out loud? Are you on crack?"
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No. They are flat out broadcasting that they will do whatevs they want and YOU congress don't have the balls to stop them. Because they know where the bodies are buried. The legacy of J Edgar Hoover.

Posted by: simplemind at February 06, 2018 03:56 PM (Mhm6d)

164 FBI: Whores, Booze, and Fraud, that's all they were. Edgar politicized they bureau for his own agrandizement.

A made for TV organization.

Posted by: gNewt at February 06, 2018 03:57 PM (nDdGQ)

165 Did the government really let Musk put up a Tesla in orbit? What ever happened to the giant piece of space junk from China falling back to Earth?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 06, 2018 03:57 PM (2t99/)

166 The media has backed itself into a corner. It can't start reporting honestly because then it will become obvious to everyone that they haven't been reporting honestly up until now.

I went to grade school with a girl who constantly told lies that were ridiculous even by the standards of grade school kids. When we started 8th grade, she told the class that she had spent the summer in Paris taking ballet lessons. Kids immediately said, "Michelle, that's a lie! I saw you at the church festival in July!" Or in the grocery store, or at the movies. People had seen her all summer long. She doubled down and kept insisting that she had been in Paris, we were all nuts, we must have seen someone who looked just like her, etc.

The media are like that girl. The difference is that half the class didn't believe her and ask her to tell them how great Paris was. We all knew she was full of shit.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 06, 2018 03:57 PM (ZM2xo)

167 Figure this Gordian knot out if you can. Because not one of these three cords can be relied on.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM "

I can only think of one way - everything has to be public. EVERYTHING. Every deal we make, every negotiation we conduct. And if making them public ruins them, then fuck it. We live without it. No secret meetings, nothing behind closed doors, EVERYTHING open and televised.

No confidentiality for anything. No secrecy for anyone. Parts of that will suck, but not as much as the misuse of it sucks right now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2018 03:57 PM (k1TUh)

168 Dang, Nicole Petallides needs to wear that outfit every day.


Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at February 06, 2018 03:57 PM (8iiMU)

169 Space X Heavy launch and landings...WOW just absolutely WOW!

Posted by: Tentotwo at February 06, 2018 03:57 PM (yhf6w)

170 Because all these Good Peeps seem to just Do As They're Told. And that's the most dangerous possibility of all.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 06, 2018 03:53 PM (fiGNd)

Certainly, what I've learned from history is that you can always tell the good people because they're the ones who will say "I just followed orders".

Posted by: Methos at February 06, 2018 03:57 PM (XQvuQ)

171 Zero out their budgets, they'll get that message.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 06, 2018 03:57 PM (oVWx5)

172 "It was all a Democratic Party lie immediately adopted by journalists. As with past false stories that needed to be retracted or corrected, there was no comeuppance for those who spread the lie to the media, nor the media figures who regurgitated it."

Does anyone else remember when Clinton testified to the Grand Jury and the prevailing narrative was that Clinton lost his temper and started yelling and screaming?

It was all a lie. Everyone kept waiting for him to freak out that they ignored what he said. Same thing here. Everyone was looking for National Security breaches, that the media was able to float it past the public.

Posted by: Johnny Upton at February 06, 2018 03:57 PM (6RYPh)

173 Holy moley.

I can honestly say that I'm glad I have lung cancer instead of a weak heart. I would not have survived that.
Posted by: rickl at February 06, 2018 03:55 PM (xjiRE)



Rickl, they are posting on the prior thread too. One guy's son was actually there.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 06, 2018 03:58 PM (2WZeN)

174 153 Never ascribe to ignorance what can be adequately explained by malice.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 06, 2018 03:55 PM (QQ+il)

Embrace the power of... AND...

Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 06, 2018 03:58 PM (NgKpN)

175 >>>>
Not trying to be snarky about SpaceX, genuinely curious as I've heard
both sides here, are they primarily funded by government $$$?
.
.
.Yes Musk is getting a $hit ton of Federal $$$$ for this, but he is getting a significant percentage of private money invested also.

One big thing that he is not risking is his own fortune. He is pulling dollars from Tesla and his other companies to invest in Space X.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 06, 2018 03:58 PM (+Dllb)

176 One example of why I continue to read Drudge.

Cops realize tiger is stuffed animal after 45-minute standoff
The frightened farmer said the first officer to respond to the scene was so scared that he "refused to get out of the squad car."


https://nypost.com/2018/02/06/cops-realize-tiger-
is-stuffed-animal-after-45-minute-standoff/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 06, 2018 03:58 PM (pvjTE)

177 I saw Southside Johnny as the Asbury Jukes at Nebworth 1979

Posted by: Skip LIIven the Dream at February 06, 2018 03:58 PM (aC6Sd)

178 162
Holy shit, both of those boosters landing simultaneously was awesome!





That looked like a video game. I'm going to have to see that a few more times to believe that it was real.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 06, 2018 03:56 PM (fuK7c)

I know. It was incredibly perfect.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 06, 2018 03:58 PM (8iiMU)

179 170 Because all these Good Peeps seem to just Do As They're Told. And that's the most dangerous possibility of all.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 06, 2018 03:53 PM (fiGNd)

Certainly, what I've learned from history is that you can always tell the good people because they're the ones who will say "I just followed orders".
Posted by: Methos at February 06, 2018 03:57 PM (XQvuQ)

That shit didn't fly at Nuremberg, it sure as hell shouldn't fly here.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 06, 2018 03:58 PM (NWiLs)

180 Wasn't John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band sort of a Springsteen knock off?

Maybe it was just the tunes they wrote for that movie back in the 1980s. Definitely had that East Coast Jersey bar sound though.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 06, 2018 03:55 PM (4ErVI)

John Cafferty and Beaver Brown have actually been around for about as long as Springsteen. They worked the New England bar circuit though. But when they shot to fame in the '80's, it was as a Springsteen knock-off, "On the Dark Side."

Posted by: Occam at February 06, 2018 03:58 PM (7uYFy)

181 Like the HAL 9000 computer, it's the brains at the top and not the purely autonomic functions that needs to be excised.


I agree, I think that this kind of thing is actually pretty easy to clean up. Its almost always a small number of really bad actors corrupting and tainting weaker people around them. With good, strong leadership, you can clean things up pretty quickly. Then you start to replace the dead wood and poor workers, the sycophants and people who assisted the main bad guys, and maybe you can save some of these agencies.

I'd much rather see reformation of the FBI than removal. But the NSA and the DHS? I don't think those need to exist at all, at least not in their current form.

When the Goresuch wall was revealed, the right thing to do was not to create a monstrous new super-agency that was allowed to spy on EVERYONE, but rather a clearing house, a small agency with a system that made sure important and useful stuff was shared.

My problem with the PATRIOT act isn't its existence, but rather its origins. Its simply the RICO act expanded to intelligence, and while I don't like mobsters, I think their lawyers have a very good point that it is rife with civil rights violations and unconstitutional principles in the name of "we gotta get the bad guys."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 03:59 PM (39g3+)

182 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 06, 2018 03:55 PM (4ErVI)
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They did the whole Soundtrack for Eddie & The Cruisers

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 06, 2018 03:59 PM (y3aQB)

183 >>157 So he we the taxpayer launched a Tesla Roadster into space. I hope the aliens who find it have a charging station.

More accurate.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 06, 2018 03:59 PM (r9UYA)

184 Those boosters landing really did look like CGI.

And I mean that as a 'omg how friggen cool was that' statement not a 'they faked it' statement.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 06, 2018 03:59 PM (72PAC)

185 If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to fear; if you've something to hide, you shouldn't even be here. You've had your chance, now we've got the mandate; if you've changed your mind, I'm afraid it's too late.

We're concerned. You're a threat. You're not integral to the project.

Posted by: Pet Shop Boys at February 06, 2018 03:59 PM (HtLSE)

186 TRUMP SAID DOODY

Posted by: Mega at February 06, 2018 03:59 PM (4VdU+)

187 Cafferty's Beaver Brown actually did the best Springsteen song Springsteen never wrote, "Tender Years", from Eddie and the Cruisers....

Posted by: Occam at February 06, 2018 04:00 PM (7uYFy)

188 Mysteriously, 1200 Olympics security officers are sick with Novo virus.

That's not suspicious at all.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at February 06, 2018 04:00 PM (LISuA)

189 Defund them and strip their jobs. Foreign Intelligence goes to the military and domestic law enforcement goes to Homeland Security, U.S. Marshalls, and Secret Service. Counter intelligence to the Defense Intelligence Agency. Any current persons must reapply or in the case of the CIA, enlist.

Posted by: whig at February 06, 2018 04:00 PM (acrHV)

190 .Yes Musk is getting a $hit ton of Federal $$$$ for
this, but he is getting a significant percentage of private money
invested also.

One big thing that he is not risking is his own
fortune. He is pulling dollars from Tesla and his other companies to
invest in Space X.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 06, 2018 03:58 PM (+Dllb)

The guy seems to be a master at sucking at the teat of gubmint.
I like the space progress that appears to be happening.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 06, 2018 04:00 PM (8iiMU)

191 Cops realize tiger is stuffed animal after 45-minute standoff

Well just think how I felt.

Posted by: hobbes at February 06, 2018 04:00 PM (6FqZa)

192 188 Mysteriously, 1200 Olympics security officers are sick with Novo virus.

That's not suspicious at all.
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at February 06, 2018 04:00 PM (LISuA)

So anyone can now enter the athletes sex village?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 06, 2018 04:01 PM (72PAC)

193 But when they shot to fame in the '80's, it was as a Springsteen knock-off, "On the Dark Side."

It was a great Springsteen song, though

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:01 PM (39g3+)

194 "28 Hayden ignores the fact that there are FBI agents who are pissed off about fellow agents pulling this crap and hijacking the finest law enforcement agency in the world. "


I'd kinda like to think you're right, but there is, as of today, ZERO evidence for that assertion.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 06, 2018 04:01 PM (oVWx5)

195 Russians have been landing rockets back down on land since the 1960s, they didn't have enough ocean ports to reliably get spacecraft out of the water. So SpaceX pulling it off isn't exactly cutting edge tech.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:02 PM (39g3+)

196 I'm a covert agent, dammit! You're going to endanger my life.

Posted by: Valerie Plame at February 06, 2018 04:02 PM (FJXGr)

197 What would happen if the FBI were to be shut down for a while? Would government corruption run amok?
What exactly do they do that other law enforcement agencies don't do?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 06, 2018 04:02 PM (nBr1j)

198 HBD Chick is gonna go nuts on that stuffed-tiger story.

Pity there wasn't a dragon in that shed too.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 06, 2018 04:02 PM (6FqZa)

199 Mysteriously, 1200 Olympics security officers are sick with Novo virus.



That's not suspicious at all.
---
What, did they take a Carnival cruise to get there?

Posted by: Methos at February 06, 2018 04:02 PM (XQvuQ)

200 Cops realize tiger is stuffed animal after 45-minute standoff 

Dammit, Hobbes!!

Posted by: Calvin at February 06, 2018 04:03 PM (rH0MC)

201 194 "28 Hayden ignores the fact that there are FBI agents who are pissed off about fellow agents pulling this crap and hijacking the finest law enforcement agency in the world. "


I'd kinda like to think you're right, but there is, as of today, ZERO evidence for that assertion.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 06, 2018 04:01 PM (oVWx5)

Yeah. So far the only guy to quit had sand in his vagina about those meanies in the White House saying hurtful things about the FBI, and went straight to a CNN gig.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 06, 2018 04:03 PM (NWiLs)

202 Maybe they could all go to Pakistan for training, I hear their spies are pretty much free of political interference and do what they want to whom they want.

Posted by: Greg61 at February 06, 2018 04:03 PM (W777x)

203
I'd kinda like to think you're right, but there is, as of today, ZERO evidence for that assertion.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 06, 2018 04:01 PM

We aren't going to see any evidence if they are good guys. Just like we won't know the names of Muslim Americans who drop a dime on terrorist relatives....

Posted by: Occam at February 06, 2018 04:03 PM (7uYFy)

204 >>188 Mysteriously, 1200 Olympics security officers are sick with Novo virus.

That's not suspicious at all.

My Give A Shit level about anything Olympics:

__|______________

Posted by: Under Fire at February 06, 2018 04:03 PM (r9UYA)

205 Reb Adam Schiff - at press conf said suggests the Russians promote the 2nd Amendment so Americans kill eachother

Posted by: Skip LIIven the Dream at February 06, 2018 04:03 PM (aC6Sd)

206 Who knows, maybe that's been their goal all along. Or maybe they were just operating 99% under that mindset and now, peeved by someone challenging their 99% lack of accountability, are threatening to unconstitutionally arrogate to themselves the status of being fourth, fifth, and sixth co-equal branches of government, that are really better than the other three branches, because they're entirely untainted by that "democratic election" and "consent of the governed" and "public accountability" baggage.


Posted by: Ace at 03:36 PM

10s of millions are going through a red pilled rage over this, which is natural. They will either fight or walk away. Either way the status quo will not survive. And by status quo I mean DC theater led and directed by our Overlords and Betters with their useful idiots playing Dim and GOPe while Marxists run our institutions.

Posted by: Monk at February 06, 2018 04:04 PM (g4lFK)

207 Yeah Tender Years is a great song.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 06, 2018 04:04 PM (4ErVI)

208 What would happen if the FBI were to be shut down for a while? Would government corruption run amok?

What exactly do they do that other law enforcement agencies don't do?
---
Well they'd have to angrily tell off tourists who wanted to see their headquarters.

Posted by: Methos at February 06, 2018 04:04 PM (XQvuQ)

209 Mysteriously, 1200 Olympics security officers are sick with Novo virus.



Aaccckkkk!! Noro Virus is the stomach flu type action.

And very hard to kill the germs. They live for 3 days on surfaces. 3 frickin' days. And only full bleach will kill them.

So, unless they took precautions and did all this, not a surprise they all got sick. And even if they cleaned all surfaces, if not bleach, not killed.

I can't wait for a vaccine. I'll be first in line.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 06, 2018 04:04 PM (2WZeN)

210 Hayden always struck me as the dimmest of the CIA chiefs since George. His ridiculous claim that Plame was covert/endangered by Armitage revealing her unimportant/uninteresting desk assignment was stunning at the time.


But ace - at this point, in 2018, 100,000% of this is on the hands of the congressional GOP - and of Trump, if he puts up with it.


Congress in the last 10 years has appeared to completely abandon its constitutional roles (on all fronts). The congressional GOP is now tolerating, and thereby completely owns, outrageous behavior by the Dems.


Disclosures of classified info by Schiff et al should not be talk-show fodder, or a weak talking point by the very weak GOP faces - there should be immediate suspension from the intel committee and and ethics investigation launched.


Ryan and McConnell, and others, are now showing just how unfit they are for important positions. Congress needs to not just restore its oversight, but b-slap the defiant executive agencies, publicly, and make them grovel for their budgets.


In the case of the Uranium-1 informant, Trump (reportedly) called DOJ and told them "tear up the non-disclosure, now" - and it was done.


WTFFFFF kind of advice is Trump getting on actually putting the FBI and DOJ under his control???? Call in Wray et al. Order them to fully cooperate with legitimate congressional oversight, or resign on the spot and be replaced.


There is no political risk in doing his job. Trump, not just for his own sake, needs to start fixing these agencies. It is apparent that the rot, the incredible arrogance and misunderstanding of their subordinate position, is now rife. There must be (bureaucratic) blood.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 06, 2018 04:04 PM (QDnY+)

211 Russians have been landing rockets back down on land since the 1960s, they didn't have enough ocean ports to reliably get spacecraft out of the water. So SpaceX pulling it off isn't exactly cutting edge tech.
==============


The Russians don't re-use theirs, so it is very different. Two of the three stages today, for example, were making their second trips up.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at February 06, 2018 04:05 PM (LISuA)

212 I went to grade school with a girl who constantly told lies that were ridiculous even by the standards of grade school kids. When we started 8th grade, she told the class that she had spent the summer in Paris taking ballet lessons. Kids immediately said, "Michelle, that's a lie! I saw you at the church festival in July!" Or in the grocery store, or at the movies. People had seen her all summer long. She doubled down and kept insisting that she had been in Paris, we were all nuts, we must have seen someone who looked just like her, etc.

The media are like that girl. The difference is that half the class didn't believe her and ask her to tell them how great Paris was. We all knew she was full of shit.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 06, 2018 03:57 PM (ZM2xo)


Which Democrat politician is she now?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 06, 2018 04:05 PM (jJMO3)

213 No oversight? No dollars. Cut their budgets, that will get oversight compliance.

Posted by: DanInMN at February 06, 2018 04:05 PM (h5ffp)

214 >>Cafferty's Beaver Brown actually did the best Springsteen song Springsteen never wrote, "Tender Years", from Eddie and the Cruisers....

Words and Music.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 06, 2018 04:05 PM (/tuJf)

215 Well they'd have to angrily tell off tourists who wanted to see their headquarters.


What would it cost to hire a moose to sit out front?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 06, 2018 04:05 PM (fuK7c)

216 TRUMP SAID DOODY


Posted by: Mega at February 06, 2018 03:59 PM (4VdU+)
............

lol every time.
Works in every thread.

Posted by: wth at February 06, 2018 04:05 PM (HgMAr)

217 I'd kinda like to think you're right, but there is, as of today, ZERO evidence for that assertion.

I'm hoping dearly that the Inspector General report is going to reveal a lot of these guys were actually working behind the scenes and blowing the whistle.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:05 PM (39g3+)

218 "You don't know and I won't tell. Neener, neener, neener!!!"

"Come here, son, and let me whip yer behind."

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 06, 2018 04:05 PM (7UW64)

219 People are not in a trance anymore. People are ready to start cracking skulls in every county.

I hope that is true elsewhere, but honestly I am not seeing it at around here. In fact just the opposite, the more Trump wins the more people (and our lovely brain dead state legislators) are getting worked up to oppose him.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 06, 2018 04:06 PM (kUmUV)

220 Cut their funding by a million dollars for every record subpoenaed and not complied with ...

Posted by: ShainS at February 06, 2018 04:06 PM (b7QJ9)

221 FOX is all over Space Ex and the Dow Jones bounceback.

CNN is all right on top of "Trump continues to demonize immigrants"

Posted by: Occam at February 06, 2018 04:06 PM (7uYFy)

222 Hayden ignores the fact that there are FBI agents who are pissed off about fellow agents pulling this crap and hijacking the finest law enforcement agency in the world. "

See ... there it is. There's that attitude.

There's nothing ... NOTHING ... the FBI can do to chase off some of their fans. And y'all bitch about how Obama could do no wrong.

There's a strain of Republican that just fucking loves Authority.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 06, 2018 04:06 PM (fiGNd)

223 First time that I saw Ted Nugent, he was still with the Amboy Dukes.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 06, 2018 04:06 PM (6Ll1u)

224 The DemonCrats went full satan long ago and must be destroyed...

Posted by: me at February 06, 2018 04:06 PM (yabsg)

225 Which Democrat politician is she now?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 06, 2018 04:05 PM (jJMO3)

Can't be me, I never left my tribal land.

Posted by: Fauxcohontas at February 06, 2018 04:06 PM (72PAC)

226 Hayden ignores the fact that there are FBI agents who are pissed off about fellow agents pulling this crap and hijacking the finest law enforcement agency in the world.
==================

Like he cares.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at February 06, 2018 04:06 PM (LISuA)

227 The media are like that girl. The difference is that half the class didn't believe her and ask her to tell them how great Paris was. We all knew she was full of shit.

And that girl's name was Elizabeth Warren!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:06 PM (39g3+)

228 So story is Shiftless put secret and confidential material in his memo so it would be redacted and he could show off that it was redacted.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 06, 2018 04:07 PM (BtQd4)

229 Not trying to be snarky about SpaceX, genuinely curious as I've heard
both sides here, are they primarily funded by government $$$?
.
.
.Yes Musk is getting a $hit ton of Federal $$$$ for this, but he is getting a significant percentage of private money invested also.

One big thing that he is not risking is his own fortune. He is pulling dollars from Tesla and his other companies to invest in Space X.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 06, 2018 03:58 PM (+Dllb)

Hey the fuckin thing flew and it is about time the US had a heavy lift capacity again. I am OK spending Federal Money on that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 06, 2018 04:07 PM (5y11N)

230 223
First time that I saw Ted Nugent, he was still with the Amboy Dukes.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 06, 2018 04:06 PM (6Ll1u)

When I saw Ted live, it was so loud my sternum was vibrating.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 06, 2018 04:07 PM (8iiMU)

231 If, re: dem/schiff memo, PDT just said: Hey, let's just release the warrants, all four of them. Forget about all this middle stuff.

Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:07 PM (OLS0m)

232 209 Mysteriously, 1200 Olympics security officers are sick with Novo virus.



Aaccckkkk!! Noro Virus is the stomach flu type action.

And very hard to kill the germs. They live for 3 days on surfaces. 3 frickin' days. And only full bleach will kill them.

So, unless they took precautions and did all this, not a surprise they all got sick. And even if they cleaned all surfaces, if not bleach, not killed.

I can't wait for a vaccine. I'll be first in line.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 06, 2018 04:04 PM (2WZeN)

++++

Bleach isn't the only thing that will kill the stomach flu virus. You know what else is amazingly effective? My immune system. After a couple of days, they are all dead. No biggie.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 06, 2018 04:07 PM (pvjTE)

233 So the complete list of names, addresses, and phone numbers from Weiner's laptop got posted on the Internet earlier.

It includes Bill Clinton's cell and lots of MFM types.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 06, 2018 04:07 PM (gm9yG)

234 What would it cost to hire a moose to sit out front?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 06, 2018 04:05 PM (fuK7c)


You can have the young bull that's been hanging out in my front yard for free.

Little SOB makes it difficult to drive out of the garage safely, not to mention get the mail from the mail box. And he keeps snacking on my apple tree, making a mess and crapping all over the place.

Imma have to cut that tree down to survive another winter around here....

Anyhoo, come and get him and put him there. I won't charge you a dime.

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 06, 2018 04:07 PM (7UW64)

235 Translation: We don't like you holding us accountable! We'll tell you peons when we'll release shit when we think you're entitled to it! You work for us!

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2018 04:08 PM (+1EJs)

236 The FBI is doing the equivalent of Navin Johnson walking away from his life with his paddle ball game, ashtray, lamp, and chair.

Keep the clutter, boys.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 06, 2018 04:08 PM (4ErVI)

237 We need a Special Council to investigate the intelligence community. The number of IC connected partisans speaking publicly about "don't fuck with us or we just might ruin your life" and now this prove it. They need to be punched in their fat fucking faces to be reminded just who it is they serve. Hint: it's not the DNC.

Posted by: holygoat at February 06, 2018 04:08 PM (nCqz2)

238 208 What would happen if the FBI were to be shut down for a while? Would government corruption run amok?

What exactly do they do that other law enforcement agencies don't do?
---
Well they'd have to angrily tell off tourists who wanted to see their headquarters.
Posted by: Methos at February 06, 2018 04:04 PM (XQvuQ)

FBI shut down?

Clearly Vlad Putin would walk in and take over the entire US!

Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 06, 2018 04:08 PM (NgKpN)

239 f, re: dem/schiff memo, PDT just said: Hey, let's just release the warrants, all four of them. Forget about all this middle stuff.
Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:07 PM (OLS0m)

Wizard.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 04:08 PM (7uYFy)

240 REDACTED: Schiff has a tiny penis.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (oVJmc)

241 CNN is all right on top of "Trump continues to demonize immigrants"

And they are not immigrants - they are invaders. I am so sick and tired of the left changing the meaning of perfectly good words for their own use.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (kUmUV)

242 Hey the fuckin thing flew and it is about time the US had a heavy lift capacity again. I am OK spending Federal Money on that.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 06, 2018 04:07 PM (5y11N)


me too

always brings tears to my eyes to see a successful launch

thing of beauty

A good day for SpaceX and Elon Musk. And us.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (fceHP)

243 Seems like we are being told it's a great time to restock our intelligence agencies, law enforcement agencies and the msm with people who, get this, will follow the law.

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (Ftuf+)

244 Meanwhile, the Turkish invasion of Syria continues.... as they take out the Kurds...

But that's just an excuse, they are there to stay.

Edrogan wants to recreate the Ottoman Empire...

Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (NgKpN)

245 Hey the fuckin thing flew and it is about time the US had a heavy lift capacity again. I am OK spending Federal Money on that.


Roger that.

I don't care if Elon Musk wears Clyde Tolson's skirt while making up show tunes about Obama, we're in space again and that's a good thing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 06, 2018 04:10 PM (fuK7c)

246 REDACTED: Schiff has a tiny penis.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (oVJmc)

But the 'head" is kinda big....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 04:10 PM (7uYFy)

247
Bleach isn't the only thing that will kill the stomach flu virus. You know what else is amazingly effective? My immune system. After a couple of days, they are all dead. No biggie.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 06, 2018 04:07 PM (pvjTE)


Yes, but I don't want to spend days vomiting in order to get there. Or be spreading germs to others.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 06, 2018 04:10 PM (2WZeN)

248

https://twitter.com/elonmusk

https://twitter.com/SpaceX

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 06, 2018 04:10 PM (fceHP)

249 OT but related. Per the Daily Mail UK. Schiff got punked last year, some The duo posed as a fake Ukrainian politician to say Trump had sex with Russian glamour model Olga Buzova after a Miss Universe pageant in 2013
In the call they said Putin had been passed naked pictures of Trump and now-president had used secret codes for talks with Russians
Duo gave emails to DailyMail.com which showed Schiff's staff trying to arrange to collect 'classified' documents from Ukraine's embassy in D.C.
Schiff's office claimed he was not fooled by the call and reported it to 'authorities' but did not explain why his staff kept up correspondence 
Call posted in April 2017 surfaced as Schiff waits to see if Trump will declassify his Democratic version of the Devin Nunes memo which shamed the FBI


Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2018 04:10 PM (+1EJs)

250 If they closed down and it would hurt the "FBI Opens Investigation into X" headlines that make people believe the government is actually serious about investigating X.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 06, 2018 04:10 PM (4ErVI)

251 Journalism is alive and well.

Reporting the Facts is what's dead within the so-called Mainstream News Media.

Posted by: davidt at February 06, 2018 04:10 PM (kyG8i)

252 219 People are not in a trance anymore. People are ready to start cracking skulls in every county.

I hope that is true elsewhere, but honestly I am not seeing it at around here. In fact just the opposite, the more Trump wins the more people (and our lovely brain dead state legislators) are getting worked up to oppose him.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 06, 2018 04:06 PM (kUmUV)

I see it where I live amongst the regular folks and in conversations that are being had in louder and louder whispers.

Then you have the factions of Marxism who do want to kill the Christian White man and now white women too.

I know their endgame. The enemy is the Commie and not different skin colors.

Posted by: Monk at February 06, 2018 04:10 PM (g4lFK)

253 CNN is all right on top of "Trump continues to demonize immigrants"

Posted by: Occam at February 06, 2018 04:06 PM (7uYFy)


Pretty sure those illegals are doing a pretty good job of demonizing themselves, what with all the murdering and raping and thieving.

I doubt they need help from DJT.

Where the hell is our wall, dammit?

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 06, 2018 04:10 PM (7UW64)

254 Need a RIF of mandarins and boffins and wonks.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 06, 2018 04:11 PM (QLvwG)

255 And all the colored girls sang, DOODY, DOODY, DA DOODY, DOOT, DOOT.

Posted by: gNewt at February 06, 2018 04:11 PM (nDdGQ)

256 well, there has never been a time where I have not been an enthusiastic supporter of the military, intelligence, and law enforcement services of our country. however, if the intelligence and law enforcement services continue in this way burning them to the ground then rebuilding will be the only option.

since no one wants to take a chance on their pensions and do the right thing, the thing they swore to do everyone has to go.

we will simply have to adopt the fuck with us and we will nuke you strategy while we are rebuilding.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:11 PM (MTjB1)

257 CNN is all right on top of "Trump continues to demonize immigrants"

And they are not immigrants - they are invaders. I am so sick and tired of the left changing the meaning of perfectly good words for their own use.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (kUmUV)

More and more people are finally getting wise to that....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 04:11 PM (7uYFy)

258 Like science, the news is settled. Not to a factual state. Liberals will tell you till they're blue in the face that everybody has their own facts. Rather, to a useful state. News is ultimately just entertainment, and they've long decided that the purpose of entertainment was to advance their worldview.

Posted by: DaveM at February 06, 2018 04:11 PM (WWC3Y)

259 Hayden ignores the fact that there are FBI agents who are pissed off about fellow agents pulling this crap and hijacking the finest law enforcement agency in the world.
==================

And these agents are.... where?

Posted by: Country Boy at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (cD5Pe)

260 Not to worry, Jeff Sessions has a plan.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (r9UYA)

261 237 We need a Special Counsel to investigate the intelligence community.

I wish, but worried Sessions would let Rosenstein make the decision.

Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (OLS0m)

262 Deep State is the boogeyman for the kabuki theater. We are supposed to go OOOOOOH when he is mentioned and clutch the armrests.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Freshly Mowed at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (1VKZm)

263 CNN is all right on top of "Trump continues to demonize immigrants criminals"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (jJMO3)

264 Schiff seems to be the kind of guy who's always sweaty about the upper lip and face.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (nBr1j)

265 243 Seems like we are being told it's a great time to restock our intelligence agencies, law enforcement agencies and the msm with people who, get this, will follow the law.
Posted by: Taqyia2Me at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (Ftuf+)

Actually, what you are seeing is the results of selective enforcement of our laws.

They no longer fear the law, because they don't believe those laws will be enforced against them.

Like, do you know it is a FELONY under 'Abetting an illegal Alien' to 'encourage' them to stay? like, by saying you are a sanctuary city? Its clear what the law intended..

But because they don't enforce said law, as written, we suddenly get Sanctuary Cities...

Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (NgKpN)

266 259 Hayden ignores the fact that there are FBI agents who are pissed off about fellow agents pulling this crap and hijacking the finest law enforcement agency in the world.
==================

And these agents are.... where?
Posted by: Country Boy at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (cD5Pe)

Silent majority.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (NWiLs)

267 213 No oversight? No dollars. Cut their budgets, that will get oversight compliance.
Posted by: DanInMN at February 06, 2018 04:05 PM (h5ffp)

That never happens. It's a fantasy. How long have we talked about cutting funding to NPR or PLanned Parenthood?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 06, 2018 04:13 PM (LvwIi)

268 240 REDACTED: Schiff has a tiny penis.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (oVJmc)

Which he beats like a rented mule.

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 06, 2018 04:13 PM (7UW64)

269 I wonder how hard it would be for a reasonably fit person to sneak into the Olympic Village, pretend to be on a team, and just live in other dorms partying the whole time?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:13 PM (39g3+)

270 Perhaps they should find employment elsewhere. There'll be a lot of leaf blower jobs available soon.

Posted by: DaveA at February 06, 2018 04:13 PM (FhXTo)

271 however, the falcon landing, two boosters simultaneously, was pretty effing good. Even if you do not like musk.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:13 PM (MTjB1)

272 233 So the complete list of names, addresses, and phone numbers from Weiner's laptop got posted on the Internet earlier.

It includes Bill Clinton's cell and lots of MFM types.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 06, 2018 04:07 PM (gm9yG)

That was a warning shot.

Posted by: Monk at February 06, 2018 04:13 PM (g4lFK)

273 REDACTED: Schiff has a tiny penis.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (oVJmc)

But the 'head" is kinda big....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 04:10 PM (7uYFy)
...........

lollipop

Posted by: wth at February 06, 2018 04:13 PM (HgMAr)

274 Extremely impressed seeing those twin booster rockets landing on the pads at the exact same time.

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (+fYz7)

275 Welp, Elon Musk may be a rent-seeker, but he can sure as hell put on a damn fine show...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, CAPRICAN STEEL! at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (AM1GF)

276 Repost redux becuz the news just keeps reflecting this movie:


Repost cuz I found this interesting as hell:


I had a really interesting, raising-the-hair-on-the-back-of-your-neck moment last night while watching an old movie.

The movie was Alfred Hitchcock's "Saboteur" from 1942.

It's the story of an innocent man who stumbles upon a nationwide group of saboteurs during an act of sabotage. He's blamed for the sabotage and escapes to clear his name.

Toward the end, the hero finally confronts the mastermind. And the mastermind starts to monologue...

The Saboteur mastermind's speech starts exactly, exactly with a 1942 version of Hillary's "Deplorables" speech and proceeds in rapid fashion thru a version of Thomas Friedman's love of the efficiency of totalitarian China through Jimmie Kimmel's IQ blathering through something you just know Hillary/Obama/Soros/Steyer/Zuckerberg/Google's board/etc all think in their quietest moments.

It's fascinating in that a villain's speech from 1942 has become the combined wisdom and philosophy of the American leftard.

Here's an edited version of that scene, but honestly the whole scene is worth seeing for the smug, smarmy, assumed superiority of the Big Bad. It'll remind you of everyone on the left:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rtlkILRmEQ


But...That's!...Not!...All!...

Bonus!

The scarily prescient laugh like a hyena moment is when it's revealed that-

Most the saboteurs work for and carry out their functions thru-

a mainstream media outfit!!! (American Newsreel Service, I think).


And of course, for even more relevance- the hero doesn't know who to trust because the saboteurs have infiltrated the police and security apparatus of the USA. Hellllllllooooooooo, FBI and DOJ!


Not Hitchcock's greatest movie by any means, but chock full o'modern day funhouse reflections.

You can see it in total on youtube.


And as always....Hey, leftard's! The villain's speech wasn't meant to be an instruction manual.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (E3rQ4)

277 I wonder how hard it would be for a reasonably fit person to sneak into the Olympic Village, pretend to be on a team, and just live in other dorms partying the whole time?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:13 PM (39g3+)

Ask the Arab Terrorists who snuck into the Munich Olympics

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (5y11N)

278 237 We need a Special Counsel to investigate the intelligence community.

Kefauver type hearings, televised nationally. The electorate needs to see and hear what has been going on.

The Kefauver Commission singlehandedly woke (SWIDT) the American public to the problem of organized crime, making fighting it a priority for the electorate.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (jJMO3)

279 Where did Schiff get the rep of being a straight shooter? I'll bet he never hits the toilet bowl when he pees.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (nBr1j)

280 Anyhoo, come and get him and put him there. I won't charge you a dime.

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 06, 2018 04:07 PM (7UW64)

Huh. My Emotional Support Moose. Has a ring to it.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (4CCz5)

281 Not to worry, Jeff Sessions has a plan.


Posted by: Under Fire at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (r9UYA)
...........

Buy one get one free, for the best night's sleep in the whole wide world?

Posted by: wth at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (HgMAr)

282 240 REDACTED: Schiff has a tiny penis.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (oVJmc)

And very small hands.

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (BtQd4)

283 CNN is all right on top of "Trump continues to demonize immigrants criminals invaders"

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (8gDQu)

284 261 237 We need a Special Counsel to investigate the intelligence community.

I wish, but worried Sessions would let Rosenstein make the decision.
Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (OLS0m)

Rosenstein signed the last letter, asking to extend the search warrant.... based on the Dossier...

In July, 6 months AFTER it was published... and discredited.

He's either an idiot... or in the tank for Dems... either way... should be gone.

Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (NgKpN)

285 Welp, Elon Musk may be a rent-seeker, but he can sure as hell put on a damn fine show...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, CAPRICAN STEEL! at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (AM1GF)

Elon
Elon likes his money
He makes a lot they say.....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (7uYFy)

286 273 REDACTED: Schiff has a tiny penis.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (oVJmc)

But the 'head" is kinda big....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 04:10 PM (7uYFy)
...........

lollipop
Posted by: wth at February 06, 2018 04:13 PM (HgMAr)

A grapefruit on a toothpick.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 06, 2018 04:15 PM (nBr1j)

287 260 Not to worry, Jeff Sessions has a plan.

If speaking to an Ambassador is enough for an honorable man to need to recuse himself, how does that same honorable man not demand a much more conflicted employee also be recused?

Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:15 PM (OLS0m)

288 What are the chances that nevertrump heavies knew and approved of this scheme beforehand?

Would the Dems do this on their own or would they try to get buy in from the pro-Hillary Republicans to protect themselves.

Didn't Kristol praise the deep state people just before or after the election?

Posted by: Jihadi at February 06, 2018 04:15 PM (twG1r)

289 "Kefauver type hearings, televised nationally. The electorate needs to see and hear what has been going on.

The Kefauver Commission singlehandedly woke (SWIDT) the American public to the problem of organized crime, making fighting it a priority for the electorate.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara "

I like this !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 06, 2018 04:15 PM (oVWx5)

290 Not to worry, Jeff Sessions has a plan.
Posted by: Under Fire


The couch with the green comforter this time?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 06, 2018 04:15 PM (UCeQo)

291 How long have we talked about cutting funding to NPR or Planned Parenthood?

I just wish they could get that done. I mean, its not even that hard to pull off, but every time it comes up, its some empty gesture, a bone thrown to voters so they can claim they tried next fundraising letter or primary election.

Planned Parenthood shouldn't be getting one thin dime from the federal government. Zero dollars.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:15 PM (39g3+)

292 being a straight shooter? I'll bet he never hits the toilet bowl when he pees.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (nBr1j)

I pee backwards, over my shoulder, with a mirror Annie Oakley Style and never miss a drop

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 06, 2018 04:15 PM (5y11N)

293 Could a special investigator be commissioned to investigate special investigator Robert Mueller?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 06, 2018 04:16 PM (nBr1j)

294 277 I wonder how hard it would be for a reasonably fit person to sneak into the Olympic Village, pretend to be on a team, and just live in other dorms partying the whole time?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:13 PM (39g3+)

I'd put down money in a Horde fund to send the Paolo over to give it a shot...

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 06, 2018 04:16 PM (72PAC)

295 81 Figure this Gordian knot out if you can. Because not one of these three cords can be relied on.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 03:38 PM (xJa6I)

Honestly ? Pretty damned easy.

QUIT TYING THESE FUCKING KNOTS !!!

Republicans ... and yes, I'm talking to a ton of you people directly Yes - You - The Horde. Especially the Baseball, Hot Dog, Apple Pie, and Chevrolet Lovin' bunch that never misses a chance to Virtue Signal your love of Authority in all it's Federal, State, Local ... and Hell, even Corporate forms.

You people bring this shit down on your own heads. You don't sell the rope to hang yourselves with ... you insist on making the damned thing then paying to maintain it.

If you'll ever stop giving Power to others to weild over yourselves ... in the comically stupid quest to somehow have somebody else make you safe ... this shit will stop.

But not until. Not until you ... Yes - YOU ... stop fucking slobbering in your fandom of Authority.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 06, 2018 03:45 PM (fiGNd)

In my defense...I don't really like apple pie.

Otherwise, you be preachin' Scogg

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 04:16 PM (xJa6I)

296 Remember FISA memo was a Daily Beacon operation too, they partially paid for it.

Posted by: Jihadi at February 06, 2018 04:16 PM (twG1r)

297 The movie was Alfred Hitchcock's "Saboteur" from 1942.

That was one of the worst, and dumbest, movies in history.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2018 04:16 PM (8gDQu)

298 Btw, I wonder about the feasibility of launching payloads via a giant rail-gun dug into the earth.

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 06, 2018 04:16 PM (+fYz7)

299 Not trying to be snarky about SpaceX, genuinely curious as I've heard
both sides here, are they primarily funded by government $$$?
.
.
.Yes Musk is getting a $hit ton of Federal $$$$ for this, but he is getting a significant percentage of private money invested also.

One big thing that he is not risking is his own fortune. He is pulling dollars from Tesla and his other companies to invest in Space X.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 06, 2018 03:58 PM (+Dllb)

You're not wrong here, but any company doing space stuff was going to have the government be their primary customer (at least initially). At the very least, he's providing competition to companies like Boeing and Lokheed Martin for space-related contracts. And that's still a good thing.

Posted by: joe, living dangeroulsy at February 06, 2018 04:16 PM (KUaJL)

300 So, The Law Is Above The Law.

That's how you know you live in a right and proper republican democracy. It also makes for a great bumper sticker and mission statement.

The MFM and the IC simply do not know when or how to shut up. Which is nice.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 06, 2018 04:16 PM (H8S+R)

301 269 I wonder how hard it would be for a reasonably fit person to sneak into the Olympic Village, pretend to be on a team, and just live in other dorms partying the whole time?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:13 PM (39g3+)


My husband went to the Olympics in Atlanta to visit his brother, who was playing on the National Volleyball Team. They are both ridiculously tall and my husband is built like a wrestler as well. He wore some stars and stripes pants that I made for him, along with a golf hat and a dark blue polo shirt. Nobody ever asked him for credentials, and he wandered around the entire village, including the AT&T Pavilion. After the bombing, however, security started to tighten up a bit, and they asked to see his passport. Other than that, nada.

I suspect some tightening of security has taken place due to 9/11, et. al. But back then it was a free for all.

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 06, 2018 04:16 PM (7UW64)

302 "I wonder how hard it would be for a reasonably fit person to sneak into
the Olympic Village, pretend to be on a team, and just live in other
dorms partying the whole time?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor"

You could just pretend to be the condom delivery man and you would breeze right in.

Posted by: Ripley at February 06, 2018 04:16 PM (MxEKc)

303 now, that there's your constitutional crisis. a-yup.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 06, 2018 04:16 PM (Pg+x7)

304 293 Could a special investigator be commissioned to investigate special investigator Robert Mueller?
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 06, 2018 04:16 PM (nBr1j)



Could? I don't know.


Should? Fuck yes.

Posted by: buzzion at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (lKs2v)

305 The Kefauver Commission singlehandedly woke (SWIDT) the American public to the problem of organized crime, making fighting it a priority for the electorate.

The problem is, once that hearing worked, they've done hearings on everything and now they're old hat and the press won't cover anything that might hurt their side. President Obama could have personally murdered seven infants on national TV then opened up death camps for Jews and they would cover it up.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (39g3+)

306 284 He's either an idiot... or in the tank for Dems... either way... should be gone.

I think Mueller asked Rosenstein for the July warrant.

Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (OLS0m)

307 If you want to clean out the intelligence agencies fire anyone down to the mail room clerk that voted Democrat

Posted by: Under Fire at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (r9UYA)

308 260 Not to worry, Jeff Sessions has a plan.
Posted by: Under Fire at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (r9UYA)

Just look a his face. Can't you see the steely resolve in his eyes, the firm set of his jaw, the unmistakable demeanor of a doer? Nope, neither can I.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (LvwIi)

309 Schiff just might be Mr. Mackey's long-lost brother, mmkay?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fourth Earl of Reltney at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (xPJvm)

310 I'm convinced to this day that my tinnitus started going to so many Nugent concerts indoors in the early to mid 70's, then the military and then construction. But we used sound protection all the time on the last two.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (6Ll1u)

311 -
--
And these agents are.... where?

Posted by: Country Boy at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM

------------------------

If the bad guys at the top are as bad as they seem, they would have purposely kept honest agents out of the loop on any hinky shenanigans. Without any direct knowledge of the naughtyness, what could the good guys do?






Posted by: irright at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (pMGkg)

312
Falcon Heavy Animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk338VXcb24

animated explanation

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (fceHP)

313 Where did Schiff get the rep of being a straight shooter? I'll bet he never hits the toilet bowl when he pees.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem.
. . .
You can't miss if you are sitting down!

Posted by: Adam Schiff at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (ppBhU)

314 Ask the Arab Terrorists who snuck into the Munich Olympics

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 06, 2018 04:14 PM (5y11N)


I think Taylor had more sociable thoughts in mind.

Posted by: gNewt at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (nDdGQ)

315
In my defense...I don't really like apple pie.




Otherwise, you be preachin' Scogg

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 04:16 PM (xJa6I)
Hot Rubabarb with vanilla ice cream and Scogg had me all the way.


Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (4CCz5)

316 210 Hayden always struck me as the dimmest of the CIA chiefs since George. His ridiculous claim that Plame was covert/endangered by Armitage revealing her unimportant/uninteresting desk assignment was stunning at the time.

I like to wear my liddle costume in bed. Epaulettes and all.

Posted by: Mikey Hayden at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (4u7kU)

317 This is what happens when you lack all self-awareness:

Russian pranksters spoof Adam Schiff by telling Democrat that Putin has NAKED blackmail pictures of Trump - and he gets his staff to try to collect 'classified materials for the FBI'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (UCeQo)

318 Schiff seriously needs to be throat punched but that's kind of a narrow target.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (nBr1j)

319
- Implying that The CFR and Trilateral Commison doesn't call the shots
- Taking an oath to defend our country from all enemies foreign and domestic while swearing to uphold the Constitution.

Pick one

Posted by: Monk at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (g4lFK)

320 So if the late Nineteenth Century was the era of "Yellow Journalism", what shall we call this era? It needs a catchy name that is easily hash-tagged...

Posted by: Wysiwyg Mtwzzyzx at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (98Feg)

321
And these agents are.... where?
Posted by: Country Boy at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (cD5Pe)

Silent majority.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (NWiLs)

To paraphrase... all that Evil needs to flourish, is for good Men to be convinced that fighting it, is futile.

Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (NgKpN)

322 So....the "nothingburger" now excuse to withhold info?


Getting whiplash from daily 180 on whether memo will destroy intel capabilities...or is a laughable nothingburger.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (W+vEI)

323 My husband went to the Olympics in Atlanta to visit his brother, who was playing on the National Volleyball Team. They are both ridiculously tall and my husband is built like a wrestler as well. He wore some stars and stripes pants that I made for him, along with a golf hat and a dark blue polo shirt. Nobody ever asked him for credentials, and he wandered around the entire village, including the AT&T Pavilion.

I think a movie could be made about that, someone who just goes there because he's in love with an athlete or is writing a book or something. Just sneaks in and lives there for the duration. Who'd know? There are so many and even if you're on the national team, you don't know everyone else. A pretty girl could live in a different hot athlete's dorm room every night.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (39g3+)

324 Hot Rubabarb with vanilla ice cream and Scogg


Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (4CCz5)

That's what you really meant.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (NWiLs)

325 Remember FISA memo was a Daily Beacon operation too, they partially paid for it.
=============

Every part of this is wrong, I think.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (LISuA)

326 I see it where I live amongst the regular folks and in conversations that are being had in louder and louder whispers

Then maybe there is hope after all, and I think I see the problem. You reference "regular folks". Aren't many of them left here.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 06, 2018 04:19 PM (kUmUV)

327 Obama could have personally murdered seven infants on national TV then opened up death camps for Jews and they would cover it up.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (39g3+)

Yup. That's why the media should be target number one. As Breitbart said, the democrats are "weak sisters" without their media. Go after the media, the house of cards collapses.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 06, 2018 04:19 PM (LvwIi)

328 273 REDACTED: Schiff has a tiny penis.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (oVJmc)
............

and a bad case of old man balls.

Posted by: wth at February 06, 2018 04:19 PM (HgMAr)

329 no one needs special investigators or anything else. the executive and legislative branches have every tool necessary to bring these bitches to heel.

pussing out and getting a special investigator, even passing laws like the religious freedom act, are the result of people not wanting to follow the law ans or use the authority they have because they do not want to have to do the potentially unpopular thing.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:19 PM (MTjB1)

330 This is the hill they are choosing to die on because they have no choice. The scandal is so bad that if it comes all the way out, people will be hung for treason... they gotta go all in or their toast...

Posted by: I Smell Something Rotten at February 06, 2018 04:19 PM (bYgAK)

331 >>>What are the chances that nevertrump heavies knew and approved of this scheme beforehand?

Prohibitive favorite.

Posted by: Bookie at February 06, 2018 04:19 PM (kyG8i)

332 "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

Posted by: Something mumble mumble in the Bill of Rights mumble at February 06, 2018 04:19 PM (BsGS1)

333 is sleeping Jeff awake yet. the DOJ is his. If he is recused, he can not perform the AG duties required. TIME TO FACE THE FACTS Mr Session.

Posted by: Harkonnens rule at February 06, 2018 04:19 PM (Wa5hI)

334 In my defense...I don't really like apple pie.



We would like a word with you

Posted by: FBI at February 06, 2018 04:19 PM (4u7kU)

335
Zero out their budgets, they'll get that message.
=====

And where is the Congress for budgets?

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 06, 2018 04:20 PM (MIKMs)

336 Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Freshly Mowed at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (1VKZm)\
----
Isn't time for your Effexor & Lithium ?

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 06, 2018 04:20 PM (y3aQB)

337 If the bad guys at the top are as bad as they seem, they would have purposely kept honest agents out of the loop on any hinky shenanigans. Without any direct knowledge of the naughtyness, what could the good guys do?

Posted by: irright at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (pMGkg)


The poor little out-of-the-loop honest agents see the same shit that we see - and then some. You would think that there would have been, at least, one or two who resigned over the years (if they couldn't bring themselves to actually doing something about it all ... you know, using all their spycraft and shit).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2018 04:20 PM (8gDQu)

338 310 I'm convinced to this day that my tinnitus started going to so many Nugent concerts indoors in the early to mid 70's, then the military and then construction. But we used sound protection all the time on the last two.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (6Ll1u)


Very large firework exploded a few feet from my right ear.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 04:21 PM (mbhDw)

339 328 273 REDACTED: Schiff has a tiny penis.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (oVJmc)
............

Define "tiny"

Posted by: Shep at February 06, 2018 04:21 PM (4u7kU)

340 324
Hot Rubabarb with vanilla ice cream and Scogg





Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (4CCz5)



That's what you really meant.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 06, 2018 04:18 PM (NWiLs)

Lol. where the f*ck did you come from? I didn't see you anywhere?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 06, 2018 04:21 PM (4CCz5)

341 332 "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."
Posted by: Something mumble mumble in the Bill of Rights mumble at February 06, 2018 04:19 PM (BsGS1)

Ahahahaha.

Oh you're serious.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Posted by: Random Hawaii Judge #7 at February 06, 2018 04:21 PM (72PAC)

342 Check out the Daily Mail piece linked on Drudge. Schiff fell for a hoax about Trump and went after the info and then later claimed he knew it was bogus, of course they can't explain why his staff kept up correspondence with the hoaxers. Amazing look into the little Schitt.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2018 04:21 PM (+1EJs)

343 335
Zero out their budgets, they'll get that message.
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And where is the Congress for budgets?
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 06, 2018 04:20 PM (MIKMs)


Watch them demand to be funded like the CFPB, directly from the Treasury with zero oversight.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 04:22 PM (mbhDw)

344 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 06, 2018 04:09 PM (oVJmc)
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Hung like a Pimple eh?

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 06, 2018 04:22 PM (y3aQB)

345 As Breitbart said, the democrats are "weak sisters" without their media. Go after the media, the house of cards collapses.

There are two main poles propping up the Democrats.

1 is the media, definitely
2 is the system of "charitable organizations" and foundations which get federal money, then launder it to give as "donations" to democrat politicians.

They've worked out a system right under the noses of the Republicans whereby they can take tax dollars and hand it to themselves, through a bogus charity or organization like Planned Parenthood. Hundreds of billions a year.

Cut that system and watch what happens to the party. Watch what happens to academia when the gravy train slows down and there are no positions for their crap degree graduates to go into.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:22 PM (39g3+)

346 Justice, Congressional Democrats, and the MFM cannot tell a truth. If they were trapped, axes in hand, under a felled cherry tree in Washington, it'd be Trump and The Deplorables' fault.

Trump is a good and fine SMOD, but DC as we know it really needs a few doses of saturation SMODing.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 06, 2018 04:22 PM (H8S+R)

347 28 Hayden ignores the fact that there are FBI agents who are pissed off about fellow agents pulling this crap and hijacking the finest law enforcement agency in the world. "


I'd kinda like to think you're right, but there is, as of today, ZERO evidence for that assertion.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 06, 2018 04:01 PM (oVWx5)
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Look, would you rather have the good ones (and I do believe there are good ones) quit in disgust, or stick around to rebuild the place once the bad ones get rooted out? Lots of people here seem to think it would be easy just to dump everyone and hire new people, but I got news for you - it ain't that easy.

Posted by: bluebell at February 06, 2018 04:22 PM (kNasr)

348 306 284 He's either an idiot... or in the tank for Dems... either way... should be gone.

I think Mueller asked Rosenstein for the July warrant.
Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (OLS0m)

So? It was Rosenstien's duty, by LAW, to make an independent accessment of the information, before signing that Request.

And last I heard, Mueller supposedly works for Rosenstein, not the other way around...

or... does Mueller really have no legal check on his power at all???

Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 06, 2018 04:22 PM (NgKpN)

349 333 is sleeping Jeff awake yet. the DOJ is his. If he is recused, he can not perform the AG duties required. TIME TO FACE THE FACTS Mr Session.

Guy is so damn honorable he thinks his DAG who usurps private citizen's civil rights is a great right-hand man. Sessions and Wray both appear to be very publicly putting their employees above the nation's best interests.

Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:23 PM (OLS0m)

350 and a bad case of old man balls.

Yeah, laugh it up, its real funny until you sit on one.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:23 PM (39g3+)

351 338 310 I'm convinced to this day that my tinnitus started going to so many Nugent concerts indoors in the early to mid 70's, then the military and then construction. But we used sound protection all the time on the last two.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (6Ll1u)


Mine started when I flew back from London with a bad cold. It doesn't bother me but it actually disabled my sister.

Posted by: sofa saver at February 06, 2018 04:23 PM (4u7kU)

352 >>If the bad guys at the top are as bad as they seem, they would have purposely kept honest agents out of the loop on any hinky shenanigans.

I read somewhere when the OIG report comes out it will implicate malfeasance in many if not all FBI filed offices.

Top.Men. Indeed.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 06, 2018 04:24 PM (r9UYA)

353 336 Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Freshly Mowed at February 06, 2018 04:12 PM (1VKZm)\
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Isn't time for your Effexor & Lithium ?

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 06, 2018 04:20 PM (y3aQB)

And a brisk smack on the back of the head, I should think.

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 06, 2018 04:24 PM (7UW64)

354 does Mueller really have no legal check on his power at all???
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 06, 2018 04:22 PM (NgKpN)

Yes the AG, but since he disqualified himself for no good reason, and left someone who was and is neck deep in the deep state in charge, no

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 06, 2018 04:24 PM (5y11N)

355 348 or... does Mueller really have no legal check on his power at all???

That's what I think.

Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:24 PM (OLS0m)

356 http://bit.ly/2sgrvgh
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White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders announced Tuesday that President Trump met with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to discuss the Democrat's counter-memo.

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 06, 2018 04:24 PM (y3aQB)

357 Apparently the dems loaded up their "rebuttal memo" with so much sensitive crap that a bunch of it is going to have to be redacted. The dems and the media (redundant I know) will scream!!! See they took out what they didn't like! Ah ha!

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2018 04:24 PM (+1EJs)

358 I find the release of The Post completely ironic: yet another molotov of the left that will go off in their own hand. It was supposed to be all about Hitler Trump Shutting Down the Press --now it looks prescient in our need to root out the Stasi FBI and its enablers from the Obama Administration.

Won't see it though because I don't have enough anti emetic to handle Meryl and Tom's moral preening.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 06, 2018 04:24 PM (BsGS1)

359 350 and a bad case of old man balls.

Yeah, laugh it up, its real funny until you sit on one.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:23 PM (39g3+)

Sitting not the bad part, it's the stepping on them I hate

Posted by: sofa saver at February 06, 2018 04:25 PM (4u7kU)

360 Apparently the dems loaded up their "rebuttal memo" with so much sensitive crap that a bunch of it is going to have to be redacted. The dems and the media (redundant I know) will scream!!! See they took out what they didn't like! Ah ha!
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2018 04:24 PM (+1EJs)

They did that on purpose

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 06, 2018 04:25 PM (5y11N)

361 Awful lot of "formers" and "what if the Dems win the midterms" smell coming off another AP turd.

Posted by: DaveA at February 06, 2018 04:25 PM (FhXTo)

362 >>>Isn't time for your Effexor & Lithium ?

You must be thinking of someone else. Or confused.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - Freshly Mowed at February 06, 2018 04:25 PM (1VKZm)

363 does Mueller really have no legal check on his power at all???

Allegedly he has to report what he's up to, and he can be fired by the president. But practically speaking... no. There's no upper limit to his budget or the scope of his investigation, for all practical purposes. Congress can say "no" but they never do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:25 PM (39g3+)

364 guys at the top are as bad as they seem, they would have purposely kept honest agents out of the loop on any hinky shenanigans. Without any direct knowledge of the naughtyness, what could the good guys do?

Posted by: irright at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (pMGkg)

The poor little out-of-the-loop honest agents see the same shit that we see - and then some. You would think that there would have been, at least, one or two who resigned over the years (if they couldn't bring themselves to actually doing something about it all ... you know, using all their spycraft and shit).
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February




sheryl atkisson wrote two pieces at The Hill yesterday. your suggestion that the lower level agents were unaware of what was going on is silly. Procdures at the fbi for getting fisa warrants, woods rules, start at the field office level and go up an down the chain of command at fbi and doj with a special fisa group. lots of people at the lower and mid levels had to ignore their responsibilities and commitments to let this happen. Sure, doing the right thing may have really sucked, may have risked pensions, but they let it go.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:26 PM (MTjB1)

365 355 348 or... does Mueller really have no legal check on his power at all???

That's what I think.
Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:24 PM (OLS0m)

Actually, I think he has more than you think. Not nearly as powerful as Starr

Posted by: sofa saver at February 06, 2018 04:26 PM (4u7kU)

366 What is the evidence for the statement"the FBI is the finest law enforcement agency in the world"?

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 04:27 PM (LiyEm)

367 The chain needed to sign off FICA warrents is not easy, thats why there are a half dozen people involved.

Posted by: Skip LIIven the Dream at February 06, 2018 04:27 PM (aC6Sd)

368 Lol. where the f*ck did you come from? I didn't see you anywhere?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 06, 2018 04:21 PM (4CCz5)

I've been sneaking in and out today.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 06, 2018 04:27 PM (NWiLs)

369 The FBI, CIA and IRS need a cleaning and the best way to do it is to frog march the top people into a courtroom and give them a quick, Scooter Libby style trial.

It would be nice to watch congressional hearings and not see the smug faces of people who know they're breaking the law refusing to answer questions.

Posted by: Jwest at February 06, 2018 04:28 PM (/roJx)

370 330
This is the hill they are choosing to die on because they have no
choice. The scandal is so bad that if it comes all the way out, people
will be hung for treason... they gotta go all in or their toast...

Posted by: I Smell Something Rotten at February 06, 2018 04:19 PM (bYgAK)

Yes a thousand times. When you don't have anything to lose but everything, then you will do everything to anything.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at February 06, 2018 04:28 PM (bB4HN)

371 Apparently the dems loaded up their "rebuttal memo" with so much sensitive crap that a bunch of it is going to have to be redacted. The dems and the media (redundant I know) will scream!!! See they took out what they didn't like! Ah ha!
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2018 04:24 PM (+1EJs)

They did that on purpose
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 06, 2018 04:25 PM

Of course they did. Crooked fucks. They'd rather cover up shoddy if not illegal shit from the FBI or DOJ because TRUMP!!!! that's why.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2018 04:28 PM (+1EJs)

372 366
What is the evidence for the statement"the FBI is the finest law enforcement agency in the world"?

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 04:27 PM (LiyEm)
All I associate them with these days is snappy suits and cool shades.

Posted by: IC at February 06, 2018 04:29 PM (a0IVu)

373 This reminds me of the early Civil War when a lot of the "political" generals on the Union side were screwing up the war effort, until eventually Grant took control of the war effort and garnered enough political capital of his own to purge the military of the hacks.

The lesson, I think, is that until the Director is fired and replaced by a no-nonsense, operations guy dedicated to weed out the politicals, it will be very difficult to take pot shots at it from the outside. Basically, the two-step has to be (1) the eventual shut down of the Mueller "Russia" probe, at which time Trump has a free hand to fire and hire at will, (2) the appointment of Attila the Fucking Hun as new Director.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 06, 2018 04:29 PM (BsGS1)

374 364 Sure, doing the right thing may have really sucked, may have risked pensions, but they let it go.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:26 PM (MTjB1)


And people wonder how at least six million Jews were murdered during 1939-1945.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 04:29 PM (mbhDw)

375 Meanwhile on Rotten Tomatoes, "Black Panther" has... 100% positive. Yeah, a comic book movie is better than Citizen Kane.

More bigotry of low expectations. Why, these negroes made a fine movie! So much less crappy than I expected, its 5 stars!

That, plus the statement by Rotten Tomatoes that they'd punish and delete any attempts to "sabotage" the film (read: post negative reviews).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:29 PM (39g3+)

376
Today's SpaceX show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 06, 2018 04:29 PM (2FqvZ)

377 Since when did America-hating Marxist liberals give a flip about 'American Security'?

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at February 06, 2018 04:29 PM (OtVYM)

378 Hey the fuckin thing flew and it is about time the US had a heavy lift capacity again. I am OK spending Federal Money on that.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 06, 2018 04:07 PM (5y11N)
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Hell yes! No matter how much Musk is getting in government subsidies... He gets some serious results vs the billions pissed away on sorry ass fucks crossing the border and all the other wasteful spending. NASA and its bureaucratic bullshit can`t launch a crew to LEO in seven years. As for launching a Tesla into space, what most don`t realize is that on a test flight of an unproven launch vehicle the payload is usually contained heavy chunks of steel and concrete to simulate the weight of a payload. The man just put a craft into heliocentric orbit and landed all 3 first stage boosters to be reused, two for the second time. It was truly an amazing day for space travel.

Posted by: Tentotwo at February 06, 2018 04:29 PM (yhf6w)

379 -
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Procdures at the fbi for getting fisa warrants,
woods rules, start at the field office level and go up an down the chain
of command at fbi and doj with a special fisa group. lots of people at
the lower and mid levels had to ignore their responsibilities and
commitments to let this happen. Sure, doing the right thing may have
really sucked, may have risked pensions, but they let it go.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:26 PM

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What I'm saying is the lower level guys used for fisa would have been hand-picked because they were already on the team.


Posted by: irright at February 06, 2018 04:30 PM (pMGkg)

380 345


Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:22 PM (39g3+)

Yes. That is why the Janus case in front of the SCOTUS is so vital. How many union employees are going to voluntarily submit dues? In addition, the withdraw from membership hurdles that must be done to extract oneself from it?
If ruled not in their favor, the union are toast and so is the D party, because of money.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at February 06, 2018 04:30 PM (bB4HN)

381 354 Yes the AG, but since he disqualified himself for no good reason, and left someone who was and is neck deep in the deep state in charge, no

I agree. Unlimited budget, unlimited scope, unlimited timeframe. That sounds pretty much free to roam, imo.

Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:30 PM (OLS0m)

382 Its a shame Intelligence agencies don't want to give info to congress and congress doesn't have to pay for intelligence agencies

Posted by: Skip LIIven the Dream at February 06, 2018 04:30 PM (aC6Sd)

383
I've been sneaking in and out today.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 06, 2018 04:27 PM (NWiLs)

Ninja. I was going to say Indian but ya' know that won't fly around here... too politically incorrect.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 06, 2018 04:30 PM (4CCz5)

384 Mine started when I flew back from London with a bad cold. It doesn't bother me but it actually disabled my sister.
Posted by: sofa saver at February 06, 2018 04:23 PM (4u7kU)

Mine started when i was dog-sitting for my sister and he barked really loudly directly in my left ear. I didn't think that was possible.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 04:30 PM (7uYFy)

385 I hope Black Panther is the best Marvel film yet, I like good movies and I like the character. But I strongly suspect that its going to be a festival of the emperor's new clothes because you dare not say ill of the film by all black people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:30 PM (39g3+)

386 Good second burn to raise the apogee to 7000 km. Now a 5 hour coast before the final burn to sent Starman on his way to Mars.

I believe they're doing it this way as a demonstration for the Air Force. Certain payloads of theirs require this type of mission profile.

Posted by: rickl at February 06, 2018 04:31 PM (xjiRE)

387 What I'm saying is the lower level guys used for fisa would have been hand-picked because they were already on the team.


Posted by: irright at February




ok

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:31 PM (MTjB1)

388 J Edgar Hoover was a tranny, but so powerful and had so much dirt on all the DC scum that he was left alone.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 06, 2018 04:31 PM (6Ll1u)

389 take their pensions.


and their thumbs.

Posted by: x at February 06, 2018 04:31 PM (nFwvY)

390 The man just put a craft into heliocentric orbit and landed all 3 first stage boosters to be reused


Oh, the central one worked too? That is so fucking cool.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 06, 2018 04:31 PM (fuK7c)

391 389 take their pensions.

and their thumbs.
Posted by: x at February 06, 2018 04:31 PM (nFwvY)

Dibs on the pensions.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 06, 2018 04:31 PM (72PAC)

392 Here's a congressional race tailor made for the horde: 2013 Miss America Mallory Hagan is running as a Democrat against Rep Mike Rogers in Alabama. She's not too bright, so it's all upside.

https://tinyurl.com/yb7jg5gd

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 06, 2018 04:32 PM (398bZ)

393 Fire everyone.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 06, 2018 04:32 PM (BfOXk)

394 steevy: "What is the evidence for the statement 'the FBI is the finest law enforcement agency in the world'?"

Yeah, I'm afraid that nomenclature is no longer operational. "Fine" is quite the relative and malleable terminology.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 06, 2018 04:32 PM (H8S+R)

395 What I'm saying is the lower level guys used for fisa would have been hand-picked because they were already on the team.


Posted by: irright at February 06, 2018 04:30 PM (pMGkg)

I agree but think you could have had a random selection and probably got the same result.

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at February 06, 2018 04:32 PM (czkHE)

396 I'm sorry I spoiled your 100% rating with my negative Black Panther review.

Posted by: Forrest Gump at February 06, 2018 04:33 PM (kyG8i)

397 Whatever else Hoover was ,he was not a tranny.That was a bullshit invention of Soviet intelligence iirc.

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 04:33 PM (LiyEm)

398 J Edgar Hoover was a tranny, but so powerful and had so much dirt on all the DC scum that he was left alone.

I strongly doubt the tranny story is true, it was certainly something his most bitter and angry enemies pushed, but really? I doubt it strongly.

The man was a corrupt power hungry blackmailing piece of crap, that was his problem. He was so interested in his view of how things Ought To Be that he was willing to do anything and everything to get that to happen. And that's what made him awful, not some ridiculous lie about wearing women's clothing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:33 PM (39g3+)

399 Refuse compliance? Cut their funding 100%. See how quick they surrender. Those that don't, plenty of room at Gitmo.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 06, 2018 04:33 PM (rpYJm)

400 Mine started when i was dog-sitting for my sister and he barked really loudly directly in my left ear. I didn't think that was possible.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 04:30 PM (7uYFy)

I finally found an advantage in being totally numb inside.

Posted by: sofa saver at February 06, 2018 04:33 PM (4u7kU)

401 396 I'm sorry I spoiled your 100% rating with my negative Black Panther review.
Posted by: Forrest Gump at February 06, 2018 04:33 PM (kyG8i)

Your movie is now banned, racist.

Posted by: Your Media Betters at February 06, 2018 04:33 PM (tKW45)

402 They feared revealing the "sources and methods" set forth in the Nunes memo because their "sources" were the DNC and a partisan oppo shop and their "method" was "mislead the FISA Court" so we have a legal gloss on our unlawful spying.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at February 06, 2018 04:34 PM (OIiRj)

403 I'd like to remind you that Hayden is the name of the famous planetarium in New York City.

Posted by: Neil deGrassey Tyson at February 06, 2018 04:34 PM (ctuyM)

404 lol, fbi is no longer finest leo in world, unless all the others have fallen faster. the labs suck, hrt just wasted some hostage in a rescue, whenever there is a terrorist murder here the first thing is run out to do damage control for terrorists.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:35 PM (MTjB1)

405 Bush the Elder was director the CIA for a year under Ford. After Reagan he started the New World Order nonsense and led to the election of BJ Clinton.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at February 06, 2018 04:35 PM (xQfPr)

406 -
--
Mine started when I flew back from London with a bad cold. It doesn't bother me but it actually disabled my sister.

Posted by: sofa saver at February 06, 2018 04:23 PM (4u7kU)



Mine started when i was dog-sitting for my sister and he barked
really loudly directly in my left ear. I didn't think that was possible.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 06, 2018 04:30 PM

-----------------------------

As a kid, I had recurring ear infections. Ear drums blew out many times. I can't hear high frequencies for shit, except for the tinnitus.


Posted by: irright at February 06, 2018 04:35 PM (pMGkg)

407 Hell yes! No matter how much Musk is getting in government subsidies... He gets some serious results vs the billions pissed away on sorry ass fucks crossing the border and all the other wasteful spending.

Posted by: Tentotwo at February 06, 2018 04:29 PM (yhf6w)

This! Bigly! That was an amazing display of applied science. The people who did this are geniuses. And Musk is just the right kind of charismatic hotshot to make it work.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fourth Earl of Reltney at February 06, 2018 04:36 PM (xPJvm)

408 Oh, the central one worked too? That is so fucking cool.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 06, 2018 04:31 PM (fuK7c
.............
They lost the link from the ocean platform but just showed the downlink from the camera on the first stage landing upright on the platform...

Posted by: Tentotwo at February 06, 2018 04:36 PM (yhf6w)

409 I'm challenged to think of a law enforcement operation in the world better than the FBI. Not that they're flawless and perfect, but that others are just as problematic and not American.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:36 PM (39g3+)

410 well, Musk's tesla is a scam, his solar power thing is too, but he does make it happen with the rockets.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:37 PM (MTjB1)

411 That AP article and the people quoted in it make it sound as if the President is only a clerk that approves/disapproves what Congress wants to declassify. The President is actually the 600 pound gorilla in the offices of the FBI and Intelligence Agencies. If he chooses to be, and I doubt PDT will tolerate rogue behavior.

He and Sessions have kept mostly hands-off the Congress-FBI fued so far, but hopefully that will end when the DoJ IG report drops.

Posted by: Gref at February 06, 2018 04:37 PM (nW4VV)

412 >>> A bit of sunlight is a good thing , a lot of sunlight sometimes is better.

A nuclear warhead is pretty damn bight.

Posted by: Max Power at February 06, 2018 04:37 PM (q177U)

413 The fact is you would have thought that some of the "honest" FBI agents would have been pushed to their limit when they were charged with Mirandizing foreign terrorists on foreign soil. Nothing secret in that unbelievable bullshit.

But, no. Not a friggin peep.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2018 04:37 PM (8gDQu)

414 Send some tanks to the Hoover building. If we're going to be governed like a shithole lets at least get some explosions out of it.

Posted by: DaveA at February 06, 2018 04:37 PM (FhXTo)

415
does Mueller really have no legal check on his power at all??? Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 06, 2018 04:22 PM (NgKpN)


When Trump tells him to stick his interview up his ass we'll find out.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 06, 2018 04:38 PM (lKyWE)

416 Had a mommy-proud....watched with my Dad and both kids. Musta raised them right because they both got the joke as we watched the car shots. Is it weird for a mother to give her sons towels for their 18th birthdays? That was amazing...

Posted by: Zai - Currently Fabulous in Orbit at February 06, 2018 04:38 PM (TrSQz)

417 I'm challenged to think of a law enforcement operation in the world better than the FBI. Not that they're flawless and perfect, but that others are just as problematic and not American.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February




well, you maybe right, perhaps they are the best in the world, however, they may strive for something better than the least corrupt law enforcement agency in the world.

our goal is to be the best United States of America possible, not the best shithole.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:39 PM (MTjB1)

418 The President is actually the 600 pound gorilla in the offices of the FBI and Intelligence Agencies.

This is the second time I've seen reference to this unknown "600 pound gorilla". I know about the 900 pound gorilla, but this 600 pounder is new on the scene. Is this related to ace's GAINZZZZ stuff?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2018 04:39 PM (8gDQu)

419 This all sounds like something directly from a Matt Bracken novel.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 06, 2018 04:40 PM (yzxic)

420
Refuse compliance? Cut their funding 100%. See how quick they surrender. Those that don't, plenty of room at Gitmo. Posted by: Anna Puma at February 06, 2018 04:33 PM (rpYJm)
=====

We would like to think so, especially us silly constitutional-type people.

Continuing Resolutions for everyone.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 06, 2018 04:40 PM (MIKMs)

421 I've never understood why congress doesn't ask for the info and then at the deadline, send a cop with hand cuffs, a IT geek with a thumb drive, and a porter with a hand cart and say "Time's up. Stand and deliver. You're going to fill one of these 3 in 10 minutes"

Posted by: Downcast at February 06, 2018 04:40 PM (QkNs4)

422 The 600 pound Gorilla is a female....

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 04:40 PM (LiyEm)

423 is the second time I've seen reference to this unknown "600 pound gorilla". I know about the 900 pound gorilla, but this 600 pounder is new on the scene. Is this related to ace's GAINZZZZ stuff?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February




very interesting, has always been the 800 pound gorilla, no one cares or refers to 600 or 900 pound varieties.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:40 PM (MTjB1)

424 411 He and Sessions have kept mostly hands-off the Congress-FBI fued so far, but hopefully that will end when the DoJ IG report drops.

Gref, do you think PDT can wait that long? This demand for Mueller to interrogate him is getting louder and more vicious. I think that would be a disaster.

Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:41 PM (OLS0m)

425 As many have been saying, obvious logical end-game here is to declassify FISA affidavits and FISC transcripts, and any other materials (with some redactions, but minimal).


If Trump really mentioned this today, that's a good sign.


If that move causes Wray or others to quit, then, outstanding, carry on.



Posted by: rhomboid at February 06, 2018 04:41 PM (QDnY+)

426 The 600 pound Gorilla is a female....

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 04:40 PM (LiyEm)


Aha!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2018 04:41 PM (8gDQu)

427 The way it's going, it's the Pink Elephant in the room.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 06, 2018 04:41 PM (6Ll1u)

428 -
--
This is the second time I've seen reference to this unknown "600 pound
gorilla". I know about the 900 pound gorilla, but this 600 pounder is
new on the scene.

------------------------------

Atkins.


Posted by: irright at February 06, 2018 04:41 PM (pMGkg)

429 Since Trump approved of the memo, what they are really saying is they don't trust Trump with classified information.

Posted by: MAGA at February 06, 2018 04:42 PM (sephk)

430 428 -
--
This is the second time I've seen reference to this unknown "600 pound
gorilla". I know about the 900 pound gorilla, but this 600 pounder is
new on the scene.

------------------------------

Atkins.


Posted by: irright at February 06, 2018 04:41 PM (pMGkg)

And ripped to the bone.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 06, 2018 04:42 PM (nBr1j)

431 I hadn't heard anything about fast and furious in a while, so went and checked and seems I had missed the results. Congress had finally gotten a hold of all the emails and, lo and behold, the executive privilege claim was for willfully withholding information from congress.

Number of people held accountable? 0

Until they is a penalty for withholding info from congress, they will keep doing it. Of course, if Hillary was president they would just be digging in deeper instead of releasing what info congress has been able to see so far.

Posted by: lymond at February 06, 2018 04:42 PM (Jvjtu)

432 Nah,males are usually 3 to 400 pounds with females half that.Largest male on record was 606 pounds...

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 04:42 PM (LiyEm)

433 very interesting, has always been the 800 pound gorilla, no one cares or refers to 600 or 900 pound varieties.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:40 PM (MTjB1)


You are correct. I'm as bad as the "600 pound" guy.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2018 04:42 PM (8gDQu)

434 421 Posted by: Downcast at February 06, 2018 04:40 PM (QkNs4)

Nice idea, unfortunately you have too many people like Gowdy who defer to the super state when all is said and done because "nice people work there trying their best."

Those nice people are trying to use Federal power for personal or partisan political power and they should be nailed for it.

We are either a republic or we are not.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2018 04:42 PM (SzZnW)

435 The 600 pound Gorilla is a female....

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 04:40 PM

Her name is Rosie.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2018 04:43 PM (+1EJs)

436 377 Since when did America-hating Marxist liberals give a flip about 'American Security'?
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at February 06, 2018 04:29 PM (OtVYM)
-------------------------------
Yeah, that's the most hilarious thing about all of this.
They didn't give a damn about Hillary's use of an unsecured e-mail for classified material.
They didn't give a damn when the Chinese busted all those files on govt employees.
They loooooved revealing security secrets when Bush was POTUS, no matter if it clearly endangered US troops.

What a pathetic joke.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 06, 2018 04:43 PM (0jtPF)

437 Is Eton Musk going to drive his car home from wherever the Falcon Heavy takes it?

Can't get much more bricked than Mars orbit.

Posted by: DaveA at February 06, 2018 04:43 PM (FhXTo)

438 Live views of Starman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBr2kKAHN6M

Posted by: rickl at February 06, 2018 04:43 PM (xjiRE)

439 "Oversight immune" to the IG, is what DAG Sally Yates declared the FBI National Security Division which is where the FISA requests came out of.

Posted by: geoffb at February 06, 2018 04:44 PM (zOpu5)

440 is the second time I've seen reference to this unknown "600 pound gorilla". I know about the 900 pound gorilla, but this 600 pounder is new on the scene. Is this related to ace's GAINZZZZ stuff?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February




well, since it is electric, musk should have landed it on mars and had it drive around.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:44 PM (MTjB1)

441 431 Posted by: lymond at February 06, 2018 04:42 PM (Jvjtu)

If elected power means anything the Congress and President will hold a joint press conference explaining that "the budget and law will fix this one way or the other" and nuke a few agencies to get the point across.

The Obama CFPB would be a good first step, probably BATF on gunwalking as well.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2018 04:45 PM (SzZnW)

442 F*ck 'em. Fire them all and start over. Want to work there again? You get to answer phones and direct calls for your first three years.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 06, 2018 04:45 PM (ks6bw)

443 I like baseball, hot dogs too: Blueberry pie no whip cream.

Yeah, chit is real messed up within the deep state. Reality is ugly, unfortunately the power given to the elected officials seems to have gone to their small heads. Were they not elected to represent the friggin Atlass carrying the wait? So what another march? Or what? What is the direction?

Scogg in all seriousness, I have no idea how you would lean to cleaning the deep state mess up, by denouncing the leisure pleasures many embrace, etc. I get your angry as are many of us.

Sorry, the truth is not all cops are bad. That is a simple fact and that seems to be a view you and others hold on to. Yeah, so now my guilt should be my glass is still half full. I'm not in a fandom league either, nor am I dense or blinded. Should the entire police including the FBI nationwide, etc., stop working and throw down. Seriously. Maybe I misunderstood you, I'm tired!

What should we all do?




Posted by: Luann at February 06, 2018 04:45 PM (7ZiDC)

444 Ace Of Spades. Come for the recipes. Stay for the "Huggy Bear" references. LOL. Love it. Time to get my fichus on the stove.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2018 04:46 PM (+1EJs)

445 If PDJT can declassify stuff, I vote for him releasing Schi**s memo as soon as the house lets go of it.
In other news, send in the National Guard to round up all of the known suspects and the top 50? in the FBI, DOJ, and CIA and quarantine them in GITMO on suspicion of sedition or conspiracy to commit treason or........

Posted by: endisnigh at February 06, 2018 04:46 PM (7wQK9)

446 Erosion of congressional authority and credibility has been gradual, then sudden.


Defiance of lawless agencies/cabinet secretaries under Obama highlighted how far things had gone. Even after regaining majorities in both Houses, GOP did bupkis.


What we're seeing is insane, and unthinkable not that long ago, but perfectly logical, given the incentives and behavior we have seen for a while now.


Congressional GOP is, sadly but obviously, completely unable or unwilling to do anything here. It's pretty much all on Trump. He either controls events - and does his job - by controlling these agencies, or ..... events may control him, and are certain to control all of us in the medium to long term.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 06, 2018 04:46 PM (QDnY+)

447 Huggy Bear was no T-Bone. Bitches.

Posted by: Fritz at February 06, 2018 04:46 PM (bJ0w+)

448 >>Nice idea, unfortunately you have too many people like Gowdy ...

Watch it Bucko. There's a lot of Gowdy love here.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 06, 2018 04:47 PM (r9UYA)

449 second time I've seen reference to this unknown "600 pound gorilla". I know about the 900 pound gorilla, but this 600 pounder is new on the scene. Is this related to ace's GAINZZZZ stuff?

-

The poor oppressed woman gorilla only gets 70% of the standard weight referenced.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 06, 2018 04:47 PM (ks6bw)

450 http://bit.ly/2saYeDJ
----
New unmanned 'Sea Hunter' ship could revolutionize US Navy operations

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 06, 2018 04:47 PM (y3aQB)

451 You're all wrong. It's a 362.874 kg gorilla.

Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 04:48 PM (LAe3v)

452 Hey, is this the fundamental transformation we were promised?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 06, 2018 04:48 PM (ks6bw)

453 "We are chiseling away at processes and institutions on which we currently depend-- and on which we will depend in the future," said Hayden...

Yeah, we made a mistake. We trusted them. Now we know with absolute certitude not to. They and you are not dependable and it's your's and their fault.

You wanted polishing.
You'll take chiseling.
You'll get jackhammering.

You deserve nuking.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 06, 2018 04:48 PM (H8S+R)

454 Saw a commercial for the new Deathwish

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 06, 2018 04:48 PM (6Ll1u)

455 http://bit.ly/2saYeDJ
----
New unmanned 'Sea Hunter' ship could revolutionize US Navy operations
Posted by: MISHBOT at February




that's silly. someone is going to grab the ship.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:49 PM (MTjB1)

456 Mistakes were made...

Posted by: J. Sessions at February 06, 2018 04:49 PM (r9UYA)

457 It's like the cheating wife insisting that you're the one ruining the marriage when you file for divorce.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 06, 2018 04:49 PM (ks6bw)

458 448 Posted by: Under Fire at February 06, 2018 04:47 PM (r9UYA)

I was one of the first to highlight "gowdy mode activated" and he is good for what he is for, BUT there is a definite bent of "oh those poor fellas working selflessly over at DoJ and the Intel suite" to his routine....

Reminding the intel and DoJ communities they are non-partisan is going to take some pain inflicted.

Gowdy doesn't seem interested in levying REAL pain on the agencies in need of it.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2018 04:50 PM (SzZnW)

459 At a minimum, file a bill abolishing the FBI. Or, at least abolishing all the top offices. That might at least get their attention.

Posted by: George LeS at February 06, 2018 04:50 PM (+TcCF)

460 Another reason that congressional hearings used to work is that people had some sense of shame and when sunlight was shined on their misdeeds, they'd scurry away and hide, or retire or suicide or otherwise be taken out.

These days they stare you right in the eye and say "so what? f**k you"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:50 PM (39g3+)

461 My mind refuses to believe that SpaceX not only landed the boosters but did it simultaneously.

We live in an age of utter wonders.

I keep thinking of a bit in Leviathan Wakes where one of the characters says hey I'm just a mechanic and the response is no, you're an actual rocket scientist. 200 years ago, people would have given you literally anything at all you wanted, including their first born children, for you to teach them what you know.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Totally the most innocentest. Hopping all around. at February 06, 2018 04:50 PM (mf5HN)

462 Okay, Ryan, cut funding to the agencies that are defying Congressional oversight.

If said agencies believe they are not accountable to the people who write the checks, then I guess they can find a way to fund themselves.

Posted by: Blake at February 06, 2018 04:50 PM (WEBkv)

463
New unmanned 'Sea Hunter' ship could revolutionize US Navy operations
Posted by: MISHBOT at February 06, 2018 04:47 PM (y3aQB)



That's all kinds of awesome

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 06, 2018 04:51 PM (lKyWE)

464
Russians have been landing rockets back down on land since the 1960s,


On their own power standing up to a targeted landing - Nyet.

Posted by: DaveA at February 06, 2018 04:51 PM (FhXTo)

465 Ever,
I am disappointed that PDT has not jerked Wray's chain by now. I am hoping PDT will show FBI who's the boss, but I don't have a clue or a good guess why he is still holding fire, at least from what we peons can see from our citizen knotholes.

Posted by: Gref at February 06, 2018 04:52 PM (nW4VV)

466 >>>But I strongly suspect that its going to be a festival of the emperor's new clothes because you dare not say ill of the film by all black people.

It's Marvel. Good lead actor, good director, good soundtrack. I think it will be decent.

Posted by: Max Power at February 06, 2018 04:52 PM (q177U)

467 Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 06, 2018 04:48 PM (6Ll1u)

I only am mildly interested in it because of Bruce Willis.

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 04:52 PM (IYHxL)

468 460 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:50 PM (39g3+)

The sense of shame had to do with prosecutions following wrong answers, and a lack of future equal level employment.

Now there is a partisan network of dems that hire you "after your service" but who are really buying your loyalty while you sit in a federal seat.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2018 04:52 PM (SzZnW)

469 http://bit.ly/2s9pBhu
---

Adam Schiff Duped by Russian Pranksters Claiming Putin Has NAKED Blackmail Pics of POTUS Trump -Tells His Staff to Collect 'Classified Materials For FBI'

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 06, 2018 04:52 PM (y3aQB)

470 Old wrestling fans will get this tweet:

"PM Trudeau bans Mankind from Canada, Mankind hits Trudeau with a folding metal chair"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:53 PM (39g3+)

471 Live views of Starman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBr2kKAHN6M
Posted by: rickl at February 06, 2018 04:43 PM (xjiRE)
.............
I hope those cameras stay working for years. I read an article where Musk was laughing about it would have cost them more to put a simulated payload of dead weight on top of the rocket then it would to rig the vehicle up for launch. The advertisement and PR value is worth more then the cost of the mission. Love him or hate him, the guy is a pistol.

Posted by: Tentotwo at February 06, 2018 04:53 PM (yhf6w)

472 Posted by: Max Power at February 06, 2018 04:52 PM (q177U)

I certainly hope so. I'm leery of seeing it due to SJW streaks crawling all over Marvel right now.

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 04:53 PM (IYHxL)

473 Was there peeing involved?

Posted by: Adam Schitt at February 06, 2018 04:54 PM (Tyii7)

474 446 Congressional GOP is, sadly but obviously, completely unable or unwilling to do anything here. It's pretty much all on Trump.

And, how do we support him? Petition the WH to force Mueller to remove himself from SC? or Fire Rosenstein for civil rights abuse? or Something that states that millions of us have Trump's back and we expect Sessions to do same?

I emailed my congressman, asking him to request fellow FL congressmen on judiciary or IC to question rosenstein if mueller wanted the 7/17 FISA on Carter Page. I just don't know what else we can do. Ppl talk about pitchforks, but there must be some way to prove a point.

Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:54 PM (OLS0m)

475 New unmanned 'Sea Hunter' ship could revolutionize US Navy operations

I'm getting a 'You Only Live Twice' ship swallowing ship image from this.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 06, 2018 04:54 PM (QQ+il)

476 Adam Schiff Duped by Russian Pranksters Claiming Putin Has NAKED
Blackmail Pics of POTUS Trump -Tells His Staff to Collect 'Classified
Materials For FBI'



What. A. Putz.

Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 04:54 PM (LAe3v)

477 470 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:53 PM (39g3+)

The Chinese had an elegance when it came to insults, they called Lu Bu "bastard of three fathers"....

Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2018 04:54 PM (SzZnW)

478 Anyone live down in the Los Angeles area? I feel like (hash)tagging "#AdamSchitt" all over the freeway sound walls and other places.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 06, 2018 04:54 PM (ujg0T)

479 It's Marvel. Good lead actor, good director, good soundtrack. I think it will be decent.

I'm guessing it will be fun and entertaining, I trust Marvel to put out good product now. But people are acting like its holy and unquestionable.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:54 PM (39g3+)

480 57 stone gorilla, chap.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fourth Earl of Reltney at February 06, 2018 04:55 PM (xPJvm)

481 the solution is rather simple, elegant, and we'll wonder what took so long. Repeal the Civil Service Act.

Posted by: x at February 06, 2018 04:55 PM (nFwvY)

482 It's time for a Million Moron March on DC

Posted by: kallisto at February 06, 2018 04:55 PM (kD8Fh)

483 HAAHAHAHA, Schiff is stupid.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 06, 2018 04:55 PM (6FqZa)

484 The only thing about the "Black Panther" movie that tells me it may not be all that interesting-

is that they keep showing the same car chase stuff in the commercials.

It's nice stuff but if that's it actionwise, this is gonna be one boring superhero movie.

Major misstep if they minimized the action to push the SJW stuff.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 06, 2018 04:56 PM (E3rQ4)

485 Okay, Ryan, cut funding to the agencies that are defying Congressional oversight.

If said agencies believe they are not accountable to the people who write the checks, then I guess they can find a way to fund themselves.

Posted by: Blake at February 06, 2018 04:50 PM (WEBkv)




That's why they invented crack.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 06, 2018 04:56 PM (QQ+il)

486 I'm getting a 'You Only Live Twice' ship swallowing ship image from this.

I think that was "The Spy Who Loved Me"

Which was a really cool book that they utterly ignored other than the title when making the film.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:56 PM (39g3+)

487 465 I don't have a clue or a good guess why he is still holding fire

Same here. He needs some help. Not sure we can do that.

Posted by: Ever at February 06, 2018 04:56 PM (OLS0m)

488 You might ask how my neck can possibly balance my head.

Posted by: Adam Schitt at February 06, 2018 04:56 PM (Tyii7)

489 Russians have been landing rockets back down on land since the 1960s, they didn't have enough ocean ports to reliably get spacecraft out of the water. So SpaceX pulling it off isn't exactly cutting edge tech.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February




why would you even make the statement? Not even close to what Musk is doing. Russians landed space capsules with chutes on land. Not boosters, under power, so they could be reused.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 04:56 PM (MTjB1)

490
Kevin Spacey just called and said the only way out of this for the FBI is for the FBI to come out as a gay man.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 06, 2018 04:56 PM (Mh+OQ)

491 >>482 It's time for a Million Moron March on DC

Will there be free booze?

Posted by: Under Fire at February 06, 2018 04:56 PM (r9UYA)

492 When can we expect Synchronized Rocket Landing to become an Olympic sport?

I was promised the future!

Posted by: Anachronda at February 06, 2018 04:57 PM (sGtp+)

493 488 You might ask how my neck can possibly balance my head.
Posted by: Adam Schitt at February 06, 2018 04:56 PM (Tyii7)

Why yes, yes, I do.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 06, 2018 04:57 PM (nBr1j)

494 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 06, 2018 04:55 PM (6FqZa)
----
He is stupid But I think it is a look into the DUMocRATS wworld & they are scared shitless & looking for a Hail Mary to save them

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 06, 2018 04:57 PM (y3aQB)

495 Build the Wall.

Lock her up.

Drain the swamp.

Posted by: JAS at February 06, 2018 04:57 PM (7JbXq)

496 481 Posted by: x at February 06, 2018 04:55 PM (nFwvY)

The GOP is the reason why we have civil service reform in the first place, I wonder if one went back in time and told those men:

1) public employee unions are coming

2) the "non partisan civil service" will be more partisan than the patronage seekers ever were, provably so

and

3) Congress will have ceded entire sections of its portfolio and tolerate those empowered agencies pretending they are immune to oversight

what they would reply with.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2018 04:57 PM (SzZnW)

497 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:54 PM (39g3+)

It really bugs me because Blade was the first black Marvel superhero, hell the first successful Marvel superhero, to make people go "Hey maybe comic movies don't suck!".

Blade 1 and 2 were awesome. To act like Black Panther is the first and most important movie ever pisses me off.

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 04:57 PM (IYHxL)

498 Something's got to break soon.

this can't go on, not even this day to day constant cold civil war we're having. When something can't go on, it won't.

Something's got to break. soon.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2018 04:57 PM (k1TUh)

499 Old wrestling fans will get this tweet:
"PM Trudeau bans Mankind from Canada, Mankind hits Trudeau with a folding metal chair"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:53 PM


This.

Posted by: Dude Love at February 06, 2018 04:57 PM (ctuyM)

500 So SpaceX pulling it off isn't exactly cutting edge tech.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February

Disagree. Watching those boosters land was fooking impressive.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fourth Earl of Reltney at February 06, 2018 04:57 PM (xPJvm)

501 Ace in the sidebar,I don't think it is a model car it is one of his actual Tesla's...

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 04:59 PM (LiyEm)

502 490
Kevin Spacey just called and said the only way out of this for the FBI is for the FBI to come out as a gay man.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 06, 2018 04:56 PM (Mh+OQ)


"Really!"

- - Hoover and Tolson

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 04:59 PM (mbhDw)

503 I think duelling should be re-introduced but just at the level Congress and the Senate in the U.S. and the House of Commons in Canada.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 06, 2018 04:59 PM (nBr1j)

504 Blade 1 and 2 were awesome. To act like Black Panther is the first and most important movie ever pisses me off.

I agree, although Blade had less of a Superhero film than an action/supernatural feel to it, so maybe that's what they have in mind.

I like Black Panther quite a bit, but its pretty obvious that the reaction to it has more to do with hype and clever publicity about blacks than it does anything actually in the movie.

Like all the ridiculous nonsense when Wonder Woman came out with people pretending it was transformative and little girls lives were being changed by seeing the movie.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:59 PM (39g3+)

505 It's time for a Million Moron March on DC
Posted by: kallisto at February 06, 2018 04:55 PM


Who has the pudding cup concession?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 06, 2018 04:59 PM (ctuyM)

506 305 The Kefauver Commission singlehandedly woke (SWIDT) the American public to the problem of organized crime, making fighting it a priority for the electorate.

The problem is, once that hearing worked, they've done hearings on everything and now they're old hat and the press won't cover anything that might hurt their side.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:17 PM (39g3+)


Yes, but that's why the hearings need to be televised nationally - to circumvent the MSM. Sure, at first only a small contingent will watch, but when word of fireworks gets out, others will tune in, and still others will watch on Youtube.

We need sunlight, and hearings provide that. Any special counsel investigation can be buried, spun, or misrepresented. But live hearings cannot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 06, 2018 04:59 PM (jJMO3)

507 I have no good answer. It's a wonder of the world.

Posted by: Adam Schitt at February 06, 2018 04:59 PM (Tyii7)

508

In the food chain, the Deep State are supposed to be the plankton, not the Orcas.


Congress is so out of touch to allow this to happen.


The effing Deep State, can we just start shooting these slimy traitors?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 06, 2018 05:00 PM (UsCnO)

509 For those that watched the SOTU, the Democrats full despicable behavior was on display. Masks totally off. Now they are pissed because Trump called them on it.

Posted by: Cheri at February 06, 2018 05:00 PM (oiNtH)

510 "Watch it Bucko. There's a lot of Gowdy love here."

east coast version of Darrell Issa...lotta bark, very little bite

Posted by: DanMan at February 06, 2018 05:00 PM (XTiHL)

511 Howie Carr exposed the FBI agents being corrupt with Whitey Bulger. Retired FBI big shot James Kallstrom is complaining about the current FBI. Put Carr and Kallstrom in charge of the FBI.

Posted by: Brian at February 06, 2018 05:00 PM (G4MPJ)

512 WH Chief of Staff Kelly: Some DREAMers 'Too Lazy to Get Off Their Asses' to Sign Up for DACA -BB

Oh boy.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 06, 2018 05:00 PM (r9UYA)

513 511 Howie Carr exposed the FBI agents being corrupt with Whitey Bulger. Retired FBI big shot James Kallstrom is complaining about the current FBI. Put Carr and Kallstrom in charge of the FBI.
Posted by: Brian at February 06, 2018 05:00 PM (G4MPJ)


James Kallstrom headed TWA 800. I do not trust that man.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 05:00 PM (mbhDw)

514 510 "Watch it Bucko. There's a lot of Gowdy love here."

east coast version of Darrell Issa...lotta bark, very little bite
Posted by: DanMan at February 06, 2018 05:00 PM (XTiHL)


Sigh.

We REALLY need to teach civics again in high school. Maybe with picture books, if necessary, as it apparently is.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 06, 2018 05:01 PM (jJMO3)

515

"Really!"

- - Hoover and Tolson

Posted by: J.J. Sefton



The original Burns & Smithers.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 06, 2018 05:01 PM (Mh+OQ)

516 Adam Schiff Duped by Russian Pranksters Claiming Putin Has NAKED
Blackmail Pics of POTUS Trump -Tells His Staff to Collect 'Classified
Materials For FBI'


What. A. Putz.
Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 04:54 PM

He just wanted to see Trump naked. Fucking moron. And not the good kind of moron.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2018 05:01 PM (+1EJs)

517 This isn't the Black Panther movie I was looking for.

Posted by: Obi Wan Ghetto Child at February 06, 2018 05:02 PM (kyG8i)

518 We need sunlight, and hearings provide that. Any special counsel investigation can be buried, spun, or misrepresented. But live hearings cannot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

I was in Junior High when the Watergate hearings were held. It was requisite watching in class for all of us.

Posted by: Cheri at February 06, 2018 05:02 PM (oiNtH)

519 Kallstrom covered up the Flight 800 disaster for Clenis. Fuck that guy in particular.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 06, 2018 05:02 PM (r9UYA)

520 http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=373730#Bot

The Russian Bots are Back

Posted by: Juan Valdez at February 06, 2018 05:02 PM (ctuyM)

521 Black Panther movie? I keep hearing radio ads for Black Lightning but I can't recall any panther. Not that it matters. I go to about 4 movies a decade and don't even netflix.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 06, 2018 05:02 PM (eASYU)

522 I hope they gave Starman a bottle to pee in. Talk about a long time between stops.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 06, 2018 05:02 PM (yL25O)

523

What difference, at this point, does it make?1//1!?!?!!1//!?!?

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 06, 2018 05:02 PM (mPeei)

524 I pray there are decent agents working within the system quietly, while upholding their sworn in oaths under the Constitution of the United States, while keeping their mouths shut and not leaking like we have seen under the prior administration aiming for destruction. Again, I will continue to pray, there are Agents in the background honoring their sworn oaths under the Constitution for President Trump his administration and the citizens.

Posted by: Luann at February 06, 2018 05:02 PM (7ZiDC)

525 437 Can't get much more bricked than Mars orbit.

well, there's solar orbit at about the distance of mars...

Posted by: Anachronda at February 06, 2018 05:02 PM (v3pYe)

526 Disagree. Watching those boosters land was fooking impressive.

Yeah its more impressive than I originally thought, but still being overhyped. Still, I love space travel and exploration so I hope this leads to more than a car in orbit, as neat as those images are.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 05:02 PM (39g3+)

527 514 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 06, 2018 05:01 PM (jJMO3)

Congress/The Senate has as much power as it will use.

*Somehow* the donks managed to turn the civil service on its ear with the Church Committee.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2018 05:03 PM (SzZnW)

528 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 04:59 PM (39g3+)

Still ain't seen WW but people I trust said they really enjoyed it. It's interesting regarding the hype surrounding Black Panther.....it's all contrived passion surrounding it.

BP has been around for over 40 years. Let's stop acting like Prometheus delivered us fire.

Ryan Coogler is directing? My interest level just raised, I loved what he did for Creed. Even if it was a punch for punch remake of Rocky.

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 05:03 PM (IYHxL)

529 It was truly an amazing day for space travel.

If you're going all the way to Mars you're going to want to put the top down occasionally.

Posted by: DaveA at February 06, 2018 05:03 PM (FhXTo)

530 Yeah its more impressive than I originally thought, but still being overhyped. Still, I love space travel and exploration so I hope this leads to more than a car in orbit, as neat as those images are.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February




well, the russians never did so much.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:03 PM (MTjB1)

531
I'm getting a 'You Only Live Twice' ship swallowing ship image from this.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 06, 2018 04:54 PM (QQ+il)


With a top speed of 27 knots I doubt many ships will be able to catch it

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 06, 2018 05:04 PM (lKyWE)

532 It's time for a Million Moron March on DC
Posted by: kallisto at February 06, 2018 04:55 PM

Who has the pudding cup concession?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 06, 2018 04:59 PM (ctuyM)
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I'll be happy to make sammiches for everyone. It would be nice not to be outnumbered, for once.

Posted by: bluebell at February 06, 2018 05:04 PM (kNasr)

533 And unexpectedly, there's a new show on the WB called Black Lightening.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 06, 2018 05:04 PM (6Ll1u)

534 First!

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 06, 2018 05:04 PM (CPk08)

535 I was in Junior High when the Watergate hearings were held. It was requisite watching in class for all of us.

Posted by: Cheri


Well, for those of us in adolescence at the time, watching John Dean's wife certainly was.

Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 05:04 PM (LAe3v)

536 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 06, 2018 05:01 PM (jJMO3)

Why do you say that?

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 05:04 PM (IYHxL)

537 With a top speed of 27 knots I doubt many ships will be able to catch it
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February



why would you want an unmanned surface vessel when you have underwater drones and aerial drones?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:05 PM (MTjB1)

538 524 Posted by: Luann at February 06, 2018 05:02 PM (7ZiDC)

Those "good agents" who "kept their mouths shut" are why we are where we are, with democrat partisan operatives in the "career track" able to act with relative impunity.

Lerner and Strozk's shenanigans could have been stopped had "good agents" looked across various tables and said "what the fuck are you doing?"

Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2018 05:05 PM (SzZnW)

539 got it on my To Watch list right behind Red Tails which is free on youtube

Posted by: x at February 06, 2018 05:05 PM (nFwvY)

540 I was one of the first to highlight "gowdy mode activated" and he is good for what he is for, BUT there is a definite bent of "oh those poor fellas working selflessly over at DoJ and the Intel suite" to his routine...."

Gowdy wants to be a prosecutor not a legislator, maybe head the DOJ or replace Sessions. He has to appear impartial. One reason he's expressed faith in Mueller....

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 06, 2018 05:05 PM (ZM2xo)

541 Congress: Give us these documents.

Agency X: No, they're classified and you have no need to know.

Congress: Your Agency budget for operations, salaries, etc, is hereby reduced 25% for the current fiscal year... and we still want those documents.

hey! a feller can dream, can't he?

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 06, 2018 05:05 PM (56iwG)

542 Wesley Snipes really wanted to do Black Panther but when the project fell through he did Blade instead.

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 05:05 PM (LiyEm)

543 Deplorable Jay

Yes, on civics class but ya may also have to start with See Spot run, look Jane.

Posted by: Luann at February 06, 2018 05:05 PM (7ZiDC)

544 With a top speed of 27 knots I doubt many ships will be able to catch it

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic


So? It's not like there will be boarding parties.

Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 05:06 PM (LAe3v)

545
I have a feeling the 'gay community' aka leftists will find it in their fake hearts to now fakely embrace J Edgar Hoover as a gay pioneer.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 06, 2018 05:06 PM (Mh+OQ)

546 It is very demoralizing to work for an organization that has so many flaws and outright crooked leadership. I know as I work for the VA. I have to believe that there are those in the FBI who also hate all that has and is going on and who have told the IG what they know.

Posted by: Cheri at February 06, 2018 05:06 PM (oiNtH)

547 With a top speed of 27 knots I doubt many ships will be able to catch it
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 06, 2018 05:04 PM


You can run, but you'll only die tired.

Posted by: The Sniper at February 06, 2018 05:06 PM (ctuyM)

548
why would you want an unmanned surface vessel when you have underwater drones and aerial drones?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:05 PM (MTjB1)


Endurance

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 06, 2018 05:06 PM (lKyWE)

549 Fuck da police

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 06, 2018 05:06 PM (0qEMk)

550 Except Hoover wasn't gay.

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 05:06 PM (LiyEm)

551 Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 05:05 PM (LiyEm)

No kidding? He certainly had the martial arts gravitas to pull off BP but maybe not the acting range. He made a perfect Blade.

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 05:07 PM (IYHxL)

552 533: Oh right, thats what I've been hearing commercials for. A TV series that sounds like a super hero movie. I waste a LOT of time on the internet but don't follow TV or movies much anymore.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 06, 2018 05:07 PM (eASYU)

553 The do not get to set themselves up as the US Stasi. Defund them and/or put them in jail. They do not get to spy on us unconstitutionally nor do that get to lie/cheat/steal to get convictions.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 06, 2018 05:07 PM (FTXAT)

554 540 Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 06, 2018 05:05 PM (ZM2xo)

I'd back him as a state AG or a Federal Prosecutor.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2018 05:07 PM (SzZnW)

555 why would you want an unmanned surface vessel when you have underwater drones and aerial drones?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:05 PM (MTjB1)


Endurance
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February




well, submersible drones have endurance. unless they are planning on having it escort a carrier group or something it is silly. sending it off on its own is going to get it sunk or captured.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:08 PM (MTjB1)

556 James Kallstrom headed TWA 800. I do not trust that man.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 05:00 PM (mbhDw)


It's one of the wonders of the modern world that so many flights experienced weird mechanical problems and pilot error flying out of JFK.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2018 05:08 PM (8gDQu)

557 Both congressional hearings, and prosecutions (via special counsel and as much as possible by the Criminal Division of DOJ) are needed.


Sort of obvious?


There is almost no doubt, now, that there was an unprecedented, historic crime wave atop the Obama administration, which at the end prominently featured the FBI and DOJ exploring (as far as we know) hitherto unexplored territory of unconstitutional crime by directly engaging in illegalities for political purposes.


To not fully investigate and then prosecute at least the most significant of those felonies would be idiotic, and disastrous - and render everything else done/said moot.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 06, 2018 05:08 PM (QDnY+)

558 I have been happy with the last half dozen MCU movies I've seen but I'm not really looking forward to Ant Man and the Wasp.

Evangeline Lily was a real bitch in Ant Man and I have no desire to see her on screen again.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 05:08 PM (xJa6I)

559
Did the Left smear Hoover to deflect?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 06, 2018 05:08 PM (Mh+OQ)

560 Statement from FBI/DOJ/NSA press conference:

You know the score, pal! You're not cop, you're little people!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 06, 2018 05:08 PM (e1mEI)

561 I have to believe that there are those in the FBI
who also hate all that has and is going on and who have told the IG what
they know.

Posted by: Cheri


I agree with you. Those calling for the abolition of the FBI need to think it through. Not only would it be grossly unfair to the vast majority who had nothing to do with this and disapprove, you'ld lose all of the institutional memory that allows them to do things like shut down the mob.

I'll assume that these calls are just overexcited hyperbole.

Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 05:09 PM (LAe3v)

562 546

Where is the evidence of any of this? There are no good guy FBI people. They are all power hungry fascists. That is why they are federal LEOs. Same with cia, atf, etc.

Fuck da police

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 06, 2018 05:09 PM (0qEMk)

563
Who decided it would be a good idea name the building after Hoover?

Carter?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 06, 2018 05:09 PM (Mh+OQ)

564 Except Hoover wasn't gay.

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 05:06 PM (LiyEm)

That probably won't matter to leftists who are perfectly happy rewriting history.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 06, 2018 05:09 PM (FTXAT)

565
well, submersible drones have endurance. unless they are planning on having it escort a carrier group or something it is silly. sending it off on its own is going to get it sunk or captured.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:08 PM (MTjB1)


Drones don't have a range of 10,000 nm

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 06, 2018 05:10 PM (lKyWE)

566 558 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 05:08 PM (xJa6I)

It's unfortunate as well, the character of WASP is supposed to be a Ditzy Brunette socialite....

not "a scientist almost as good as Hank Pym who is also coincidentally a totally trained covert operative almost on Black Widow's level without the suit."

Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2018 05:10 PM (SzZnW)

567 I'd buy more ammo but I just am running out of room even with copious practice/range use.

But, I'm buying more ammo and another long gun.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 06, 2018 05:10 PM (3BFzK)

568 Sveen1007

True but one has to wonder about the type of agents that they were bringing in for a number of years. Yeah its a disgusting thought.

Then again if the media is bought and the higher escelon is corrupted, where do you turn and survive?

Posted by: Luann at February 06, 2018 05:10 PM (7ZiDC)

569 Not only would it be grossly unfair to the vast majority who had nothing to do with this and disapprove, you'ld lose all of the institutional memory that allows them to do things like shut down the mob.

I'll assume that these calls are just overexcited hyperbole.
Posted by: pep at February




well, then the should step up, do their job, and start pointing out those that are violating the law. you know, the swore to do so.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:10 PM (MTjB1)

570 551 Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 05:05 PM (LiyEm)

No kidding? He certainly had the martial arts gravitas to pull off BP but maybe not the acting range. He made a perfect Blade.
Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 05:07 PM (IYHxL)

Snipes used to be pretty charismatic. Loved him in Demolition Man.

Lately, he's nuttier than squirrel turds but in the 90's he was pretty rockin'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 05:10 PM (xJa6I)

571 When do we get to see Harley Quinn's ass on the big screen again?

Posted by: davidt at February 06, 2018 05:10 PM (kyG8i)

572
I agree with you. Those calling for the abolition of the FBI need to think it through. Not only would it be grossly unfair to the vast majority who had nothing to do with this and disapprove, you'ld lose all of the institutional memory that allows them to do things like shut down the mob.

I'll assume that these calls are just overexcited hyperbole.
Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 05:09 PM (LAe3v)

Shut down the mob? When did that happen?

Posted by: Country Boy at February 06, 2018 05:11 PM (cD5Pe)

573 I'd like to make Teh-neisi Coates watch a Black Panther movie where it was revealed that Black Panther's day time alter ego was a kid called Little Black Sambo. who had little bits of rag all tied in his hair. And then he would have to transform when the White Tiger started to chase him, but he would climb up a tree and cry first.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2018 05:11 PM (k1TUh)

574 Drones don't have a range of 10,000 nm

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic


10 microns? 10% of a human hair? Man, that's some pitiful range.

Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 05:11 PM (LAe3v)

575 What happens if your unmanned, oops sorry. non crewed vessel has a mechanical?

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 06, 2018 05:11 PM (+1EJs)

576 Shut down the mob? When did that happen?

Posted by: Country Boy


Check with John Gotti.

Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 05:12 PM (LAe3v)

577 "I agree with you. Those calling for the abolition of the FBI need to
think it through. Not only would it be grossly unfair to the vast
majority who had nothing to do with this and disapprove, you'ld lose all
of the institutional memory that allows them to do things like shut
down the mob."


============

If 29% is the vast majority, then yes.

If we are relying on the FIB to stop the mob, it only shows the mob ain't none too smart.

Lastly, fuck the American Stassi known as the FIB.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 06, 2018 05:12 PM (3BFzK)

578 572 Posted by: Country Boy at February 06, 2018 05:11 PM (cD5Pe)

Allegedly the late 80s to the mid 90s....when they were not actively aiding some mobsters in other towns like Bwoston....

The FBI is as dirty as it has ever been, and I am not seeing a lot of positive work on the organized crime front when they are busy empowering OC's democrat allies.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2018 05:12 PM (SzZnW)

579 Ground control to Major Musk! Take your protein injections and put your helmet in your trousers.

Heavy Metal did it better in 1981, - Corvette for the win, baby!

Posted by: Fritz at February 06, 2018 05:12 PM (bJ0w+)

580 Drones don't have a range of 10,000 nm
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February



well that is fine but if someone grabs the surface drone with all of its gear that is a huge loss. we are not going to war over someone grabbing a drone, it happens all the time to our aerial and submersible drones. endurance is nice which is why we have subs and surface ships but unmanned is silly if you put it in a position to be grabbed or where it has to defend itself..

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:13 PM (MTjB1)

581 562 - I have no evidence. To convict an entire agency on the basis of crooked leadership is a mistake. There were many whistleblowers in the VA that were retaliated against by leadership and that was also discovered through IG investigations. Time will tell and the IG report can't come soon enough.

Posted by: Cheri at February 06, 2018 05:13 PM (oiNtH)

582 I should have added, the mob vs the FIB?

Tough call as to which organization I want shutdown more.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 06, 2018 05:13 PM (3BFzK)

583 576 Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 05:12 PM (LAe3v)

John Gotti didn't buy the right people.

//Bulger, Whitey Bulger

Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2018 05:13 PM (SzZnW)

584 551 I think his BP would have been awesome.

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 05:13 PM (LiyEm)

585 >>No kidding? He certainly had the martial arts gravitas to pull off BP but maybe not the acting range. He made a perfect Blade.


It's been years since I've watched it, but I recall Snipes being amazing in "Waterdance."
He can act.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 06, 2018 05:13 PM (W+vEI)

586 The FBI views the Mob as competition.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 06, 2018 05:13 PM (QQ+il)

587 Awww poor little fascists would lose their jobs if the fbi were disbanded? And the downside is what exactly?

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 06, 2018 05:14 PM (0qEMk)

588 Those nice people are trying to use Federal power for personal or partisan political power and they should be nailed for it.

No reason not to say Excuse me as you slap the cuffs on.

Posted by: DaveA at February 06, 2018 05:14 PM (FhXTo)

589 Allow me to coin a new phrase:

This is "Bend Over" journalism. The only way anyone with half a functioning brain would accept it is by grabbing ones ankles and bending over. The media has finally turned into a caricature of itself. The democrats and their operatives have soooo screwed the pooch that when media like this tries to explain it away or re-aim the blame they beclown themselves beyond reason.

So, welcome to the world of "Bend Over" journalism. Brace yourselves...

Posted by: Orson-bot at February 06, 2018 05:14 PM (hhJg2)

590 562 neverskankles,

Don't know what world you live in but that is pure tripe and hate. Fascists now, ok then.

You paint with a worn out roller, big splashes, oh and your paint is dry too. I usually skip over your comments but there are times, oops.

Posted by: Luann at February 06, 2018 05:15 PM (7ZiDC)

591 well that is fine but if someone grabs the surface drone with all of its gear that is a huge loss.

Have them put to sea and make it known that they carry self-destruct charges that will not only destroy themselves, but anything within a sizeable radius.

Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 05:15 PM (LAe3v)

592
I agree with you. Those calling for the abolition of the FBI need to think it through. Not only would it be grossly unfair to the vast majority who had nothing to do with this and disapprove, you'ld lose all of the institutional memory that allows them to do things like shut down the mob.

I'll assume that these calls are just overexcited hyperbole.
Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 05:09 PM (LAe3v)

By mob I assume you are referring to cattle ranchers, religious gatherings and the Tea Party.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 06, 2018 05:15 PM (e1mEI)

593 571 When do we get to see Harley Quinn's ass on the big screen again?
Posted by: davidt at February 06, 2018 05:10 PM (kyG8i)

2019

Margot Robie's ass, however, is on screens now in 'I, Tonya'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 05:15 PM (xJa6I)

594 The FBI views the Mob as competition."

No, the FBI views the Mob as a valid career choice.

Besides, the Mob is passe' these days. The big bads are the NarcoTraficantes, and I haven't seen the FBI doing shit about them. Except taking payoffs to look the other way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 06, 2018 05:15 PM (k1TUh)

595 I agree with you. Those calling for the abolition of the FBI need to think it through.

********************************

The strict vetting process ironically is also lending itself to why so many agents are such a bunch of nancyboy pussyhatters. Not a single one of them have shown courage to be a whistleblower at the risk of losing their job because of how tough it was to get the job to begin with. In the end securing their job is more important than blowing the whistle on deep state corruption and saving the country.

Fuck em all and burn it all down.

Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at February 06, 2018 05:15 PM (+dsLj)

596 588 Posted by: DaveA at February 06, 2018 05:14 PM (FhXTo)

The RCMP method.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 06, 2018 05:15 PM (SzZnW)

597 LOL so cute

https://youtu.be/qejDmpb1JKk

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 05:16 PM (LiyEm)

598 BTW I share Rickl's excitement for the FH launch. my work has a satellite constellation launching on a FH this summer. Just a LEO orbit launch, we are one of several payloads.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 06, 2018 05:16 PM (eASYU)

599 Local cops are power hungry assholes. Fed cops are power hungry asshole squared. There are no good guys anyhwere. I wish people would stop with the hero with a badge bullshit.

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 06, 2018 05:16 PM (0qEMk)

600 sven, I'm reluctant to engage this epic, standard, and mostly stupid taffy yank of the HQ, but recall that the Espionage Act "investigation" of Clinton was a "special", in FBI parlance. Meaning it was run out of HQ, not a field office. Which is why you had such senior people as Strzok and Lisa Page so involved. It was not run in the normal fashion, it was much closer-hold, and only HQ people were involved.


Note that the one element of this farce that extended beyond the HQ "secret society" cast of players - Weiner's laptop in NYC - involved NYC field office and NYPD. And, AFAIK, what "drove" the revelation (and subsequent probably cover-up/lies/dismissal) of State/classified docs on that computer? After McCabe (operational leader of the secret society - bet you we'll all be calling him that by May) had hidden the entire episode from Comey, for weeks?


Right. Fear that NYPD or field office would sing about it.


(could be wrong, but the facts underlying what I've written have been credibly reported, as in they comport with known facts and also make perfect sense in terms of the players' motivations and known pattern of behavior)


So, in the one instance where at least the Espionage Act farce was touched by non-HQ hands, those hands appear to have forced some action, for fear of revolt/leak.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 06, 2018 05:17 PM (QDnY+)

601 Gowdy doesn't seem interested in levying REAL pain on the agencies in need of it.


Posted by: sven10077


Did you get a deja vu typing that cause I did reading it.

Posted by: DaveA at February 06, 2018 05:17 PM (FhXTo)

602 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 05:10 PM (xJa6I)

90's/Blade Snipes is the best Snipes.

I'm not including Blade 3 because let's face the facts that wasn't a blade movie so much as it was a Ryan Reynolds/Whistler's daughter movie.

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 05:17 PM (IYHxL)

603 597
LOL so cute



https://youtu.be/qejDmpb1JKk

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 05:16 PM (LiyEm)
That is too freaking cute....

Posted by: IC at February 06, 2018 05:17 PM (a0IVu)

604
When do we get to see Harley Quinn's ass on the big screen again?

Posted by: davidt
_______________

I'd hit it....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 06, 2018 05:17 PM (mPeei)

605
That story on Schiff get schiffed by the pranksters is hilarious.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 06, 2018 05:17 PM (r+sAi)

606 To not fully investigate and then prosecute at least the most significant of those felonies would be idiotic, and disastrous - and render everything else done/said moot.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 06, 2018 05:08 PM (QDnY+)

I agree.

My prayer is that things are going on in the background.

My fear question is, if the FBI and President ValJar et.al. were colluding against the US, and this was a provable fact to the most reasonable person...

Where do we go from there?

What in the world will happen when the bigguns are outed?



Posted by: golfman at February 06, 2018 05:17 PM (48QDY)

607
It's been years since I've watched it, but I recall Snipes being amazing in "Waterdance."

Is that what they play during those PBS pledge drives?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 06, 2018 05:18 PM (IqV8l)

608 Luann,

Oh Im sorry. I forgot cops are all heroes and shit.

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 06, 2018 05:18 PM (0qEMk)

609 agree with you. Those calling for the abolition of
the FBI need to think it through. Not only would it be grossly unfair to
the vast majority who had nothing to do with this and disapprove,
you'ld lose all of the institutional memory that allows them to do
things like shut down the mob.

I'll assume that these calls are just overexcited hyperbole.


Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 05:09 PM (LAe3v)

The vast majority have nothing to do with this particular scandal... but there are enough scandals to go around The Bundy situation. the FBI lab falsifying evidence FOR DECADES. Murdering American citizens that they consider unpeople. It is the organization itself that is rotten to the core. The FBI needs to go and that is not hyperbole.


I for one would NEVER convict someone based on the word of any FBI agent at this point. I am not the only one who believes they are fundamentally untrustworthy.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 06, 2018 05:18 PM (FTXAT)

610 well, burning the entire institution down is fine with me, zero out their budget and let them go.

maybe not all of them are corrupt, I know some that seem to be fine people, however those that are not corrupt but not willing to stop those that are corrupt are as bad.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:18 PM (MTjB1)

611 By mob I assume you are referring to cattle ranchers, religious gatherings and the Tea Party.

The world started in 1990.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 05:18 PM (39g3+)

612 556 James Kallstrom headed TWA 800. I do not trust that man.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 05:00 PM (mbhDw)

It's one of the wonders of the modern world that so many flights experienced weird mechanical problems and pilot error flying out of JFK.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2018 05:08 PM (8gDQu)


I'm out of there once a year when I travel abroad. Yikes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 06, 2018 05:18 PM (mbhDw)

613 As a law abiding conservative citizen, the FIB is my enemy. I knew it before but it has been proven to me in spades.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 06, 2018 05:18 PM (3BFzK)

614
well that is fine but if someone grabs the surface drone with all of its gear that is a huge loss. we are not going to war over someone grabbing a drone, it happens all the time to our aerial and submersible drones. endurance is nice which is why we have subs and surface ships but unmanned is silly if you put it in a position to be grabbed or where it has to defend itself..
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:13 PM (MTjB1)


Im sure it'll operate with a carrier group

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 06, 2018 05:18 PM (lKyWE)

615 There are no good guys anyhwere. I wish people would stop with the hero with a badge bullshit.

And I wish some people would stop being enormous dickholes. I guess neither one of us will get our wish.

Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 05:18 PM (LAe3v)

616 602 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 05:10 PM (xJa6I)

90's/Blade Snipes is the best Snipes.

I'm not including Blade 3 because let's face the facts that wasn't a blade movie so much as it was a Ryan Reynolds/Whistler's daughter movie.
Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 05:17 PM (IYHxL)

Yeah and Snipes was NOT happy with how Ryan Reynolds stole that show.

With some justification, I suppose.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 05:20 PM (xJa6I)

617 "They were instituted by congress, they are funded by congress. If they are not fulfilling their mission they should be abandoned.

Congress, learning from it's errors, could institute new agencies with better guidance."

I love it when people go full stand up comic......

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 06, 2018 05:20 PM (LOq4H)

618 By mob I assume you are referring to cattle ranchers, religious gatherings and the Tea Party.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 06, 2018 05:15 PM (e1mEI)



I do remember Rudy Giuliani's heroic work taking apart Organized Crime in the 1980s. The FBI needs a top to bottom housecleaning after what the Obamunists have done to it, to be sure, but I wouldn't eliminate it altogether.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 06, 2018 05:20 PM (ujg0T)

619 587 neverskankles

your prior comment painted all enforcement now its back to just FBI.

Name calling Fascists oh, that will get ya far in life, do ya need a bull horn too?

Posted by: Luann at February 06, 2018 05:20 PM (7ZiDC)

620 Posted by: Lizzy at February 06, 2018 05:13 PM (W+vEI)

I'll admit to ignorance I have no idea what Waterdance is so I looked it up. A drama huh?

I'll have to take your word Snipes has/had range.

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 05:20 PM (IYHxL)

621 Im sure it'll operate with a carrier group
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February




well that makes sense but it only has a top speed of 27 knots.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:20 PM (MTjB1)

622 drudge had an article up yesterday about the chinese putting a rail gun on a ship.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:21 PM (MTjB1)

623 >>Is that what they play during those PBS pledge drives?

Heh, no. A movie about a guy who is paralyzed in rehab. Snipes played a fellow patient. He was so good in that - always wondered why he didn't get more movies like that.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 06, 2018 05:21 PM (W+vEI)

624 597
LOL so cute



https://youtu.be/qejDmpb1JKk

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 05:16 PM (LiyEm)

pushing the button, boss

Posted by: crack monkey at February 06, 2018 05:21 PM (kyG8i)

625 For an evil FBI to exist and tear apart our country, good FBI agents do nothing.

ergo, there are few to no good FBI agents.

Just my 2 cents but ....

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 06, 2018 05:21 PM (3BFzK)

626 I'm just checking the HQ the first time today. Is there a Schiff NOOD?

Posted by: Hands at February 06, 2018 05:22 PM (EzdLW)

627 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 06, 2018 05:20 PM (xJa6I)

This is coming from a Reynolds fan - well Deadpool - but Snipes had every right to feel slighted and pissed off.

The movie was Blade 3 not the Nightstalkers. Felt like totally different vampire movie with a cameo from Blade.

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 05:22 PM (IYHxL)

628 622
drudge had an article up yesterday about the chinese putting a rail gun on a ship.


There are still some enormous technical challenges, so putting the gun on the ship is the easy part. Just because the Chinese did something, doesn't mean it works well. OTOH, they're making undeniable strides.

Posted by: pep at February 06, 2018 05:22 PM (LAe3v)

629 Schiff seems to be the kind of guy who's always sweaty about the upper lip and face.
Posted by: Northernlurker
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Nathan Thurm

Posted by: Valerie Plame at February 06, 2018 05:22 PM (5OO3x)

630 Nood.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 06, 2018 05:22 PM (ctuyM)

631 Oh Im sorry. I forgot cops are all heroes and shit.

Posted by: #neverskankles

Oh Jeez. When were you paroled?

Posted by: Cheri at February 06, 2018 05:22 PM (oiNtH)

632 That story on Schiff get schiffed by the pranksters is hilarious.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 06, 2018 05:17 PM (r+sAi)
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And while I was over there at Daily Mail I found out that Kylie Jenner had a baby girl last week. I didn't even know she was pregnant. It seems I have not been keeping up with the Kardashians.

Posted by: bluebell at February 06, 2018 05:22 PM (kNasr)

633
well that makes sense but it only has a top speed of 27 knots.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:20 PM (MTjB1)


Which is plenty fast if you're operating at a distance out from the main group

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 06, 2018 05:22 PM (lKyWE)

634 Many here seem to have fully swallowed the hero with a badge propaganda all these years.

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 06, 2018 05:22 PM (0qEMk)

635 616 Notmal human female with NO powers taking on vampires at night,like Blade.Yeah,he's a guest star in the movie.

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 05:23 PM (LiyEm)

636
noodles

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 06, 2018 05:23 PM (Mh+OQ)

637 I'll have to take your word Snipes has/had range.

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 05:20 PM (IYHxL)


Just don't go looking for that Wong Foo movie ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2018 05:23 PM (8gDQu)

638 I like Wesley Snipes in pretty much everything he does but I don't think he could pull off "African prince" very well. Better as Blade than Black Panther.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 05:24 PM (39g3+)

639 There are still some enormous technical challenges, so putting the gun on the ship is the easy part. Just because the Chinese did something, doesn't mean it works well. OTOH, they're making undeniable strides.
Posted by: pep at February




yep. they are also building new ships like a motherfucker.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 06, 2018 05:24 PM (MTjB1)

640 Oh Jeez. When were you paroled?

Yeah got some real cop hate going on. They're just guys with jobs, some of them are really great. But hey, like Lucifer says, every cop is a killer, and all the sinners, saints.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 06, 2018 05:25 PM (39g3+)

641 Posted by: #neverskankles at February 06, 2018 05:22 PM (0qEMk)

You're really angry.

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 05:25 PM (IYHxL)

642 I like howDel Toro re used all his Reaper ideas in The Strain,in fact i would not be surprised if he had it originally as a Blade story.

Posted by: steevy at February 06, 2018 05:25 PM (LiyEm)

643 Rand Paul is not always right, but he is useful in telling us all something we should have known.

Posted by: William Eaton at February 06, 2018 05:25 PM (MuTTO)

644 The Rocky Horror Picture Show was loosely based on the adventures of a young J. Edgar Hoover.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 06, 2018 05:28 PM (RuIsu)

645 Oh Jeez. When were you paroled?

*snort*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 06, 2018 05:32 PM (QQ+il)

646 170 Certainly, what I've learned from history is that you can always tell the good people because they're the ones who will say "I just followed orders".

Apparently there were a lot of good people on trial at Nuremberg in '48. Turned out most of them got the noose.

Back in '73 there was this oversight committee that demanded the CIA produce the Project MK Ultra documentation. The CIA then shredded 99% of that documentation, or so the CIA claimed. Of course they may have only claimed the Project was ended and the docs destroyed.

Posted by: Speller at February 06, 2018 05:36 PM (pSotA)

647 "Cops realize tiger is stuffed animal after 45-minute standoff. The frightened farmer said the first officer to respond to the scene was so scared that he "refused to get out of the squad car."

This opens up a world of possibilities.

Posted by: Calvin at February 06, 2018 05:39 PM (QdOyl)

648 I'm with Christopher on this Hoover was a trannie thing, saw even recently it might have been a Russian story.

Posted by: Skip LIIven the Dream at February 06, 2018 05:42 PM (aC6Sd)

649 Sorry, the truth is not all cops are bad.

Posted by: Luann at February 06, 2018 04:45 PM (7ZiDC)


You know ... people like you just refuse to get it.

Take a "good man" ... then give him authority over his neighbor, legal immunity, and a ready-made fanbase of God Fearing Republicans Who Love Their Law Enforcement ...

... and you'll make a man not quite as good as what you started with.

I've said it, I'll say it, and keep saying it because it's just fucking true ... Some of you people deserve what you get. Because your love-affair with empowering others on behalf of Government is not befitting of a Free People.

But Hell ... many of you don't want to be Free. You want to be Secure. You deserve neither.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 06, 2018 05:48 PM (fiGNd)

650 It only took 646 comments before an MK Ultra reference!

Posted by: thathalfrican - barely posting cuz I'm cuttin' at February 06, 2018 05:51 PM (IYHxL)

651 Okay, if most of the FBI rank and file are good guys, where are they? C'mon, don't be shy, step forward!



Trump needs to convene a Truth and Reconciliation Commission for the FBI. You get one chance to stand up and fess up. If you do, you walk fully pardoned, but no more Law Enforcement or national security work for you. Enjoy your freedom cleaning the pools.

If you don't, you'd best be both innocent, and lucky, 'caused by the time they get around to you, the people might have developed a taste for scalps, just like you did.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at February 06, 2018 05:54 PM (QdOyl)

652 Trump needs to convene a Truth and Reconciliation Commission for the FBI. You get one chance to stand up and fess up.

No. Straight Up. No.

There is no way to make an entity as Powerful as the FBI without it becoming Corrupted in the Pursuit of it's Own Best Interest.

The only answer is for the FBI to be dismantled.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 06, 2018 05:57 PM (fiGNd)

653 So if the late Nineteenth Century was the era of "Yellow Journalism", what shall we call this era? It needs a catchy name that is easily hash-tagged...
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#oldyellerjournalism

Posted by: The FNM at February 06, 2018 05:58 PM (rv0Fo)

654 Lol maybe we should replace the FBI and CIA with H1-b's

Posted by: Jihadi at February 06, 2018 06:00 PM (twG1r)

655 bullitt is on TCM. Steve McQueen has more coolness and more masculinity in his pinky toenail than the entire Upper West Side of Manhattan plus the beltway and the blue parts of California.
sigh.

Posted by: vivi at February 06, 2018 06:46 PM (11H2y)

656 Not quite right, ScoggDogg. The only answer is instead for every FBI agent to be executed.

Posted by: Mark Matis at February 06, 2018 07:48 PM (LzG0h)

657 ""misleadingly omits material information."

OK, but that presumes that 'material information' is not classified and could have been in the memo.

So, the FBI is absolutely free to publish every last bit of what they think is omitted.

Posted by: Aarradin at February 07, 2018 04:01 AM (5kvQv)

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