Sunday Morning Book Thread 02-11-2018

Biblioteca Nacional do Brasil.jpgBiblioteca Nacional do Brasil, Rio de Janeiro


(h/t James Verpoten on Twitter)(click on photo for larger version)

More on Brazil's national library here.


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which would embarrass a golfer.


Blasts From the Past

I've been downloading episodes of the Paramount TV mini-series Waco to watch at a later date. I recalled that the American Spectator magazine ran a big piece about that horrific debacle in the mid 90s so I went looking for it online. The AmSpec site didn't have it, near as I could tell, but I found another site that did. www.unz.com is a treasure trove of thousands of articles from old magazines, all archived in pdf format.

As I searched through back issues of AmSpec looking for the article I remembered, I was surprised to see how often the name David Brock appears. He did a lot of investigative journalism for that magazine, and I hate to say this, but I'm kind of sorry we lost him. There are some guys who've jumped the fence that I really don't care about, but Brock actually made some valuable contributions back in the day, as the unz.com archives show. So I do regret that he went all squirrelly and became a hack for Hillary.

But before that, he wrote investigative pieces such as The Real Anita Hill (March 1992) and Living With the Clintons (January 1994).

And I did find the Waco piece I was looking for, Gunning For Koresh by Ben Wattenberg. Direct PDF link is here.

Lastly, who knew Paramount had its own TV channel?


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Usage: Dan Rather lost his set of Thrasonite luggage at the airport, along with what was left of his mind.



Moron Library

Here are a couple of shelves of lurker norrin radd's library:

Library of norrin radd 01 525.jpg

Click on it to view larger version.


The Spy Who Wrote Novels

I first read the Day of the Jackal by Frederick Forsyth when I was in high school. I got to the part where the Jackal, a paid assassin, was looking at French president Charles DeGaulle through the scope mounted on his custom-built rifle, about to squeeze the trigger, and I remember thinking, "oh no, is he really going to get away with shooting DeGaulle?" I knew that in real life DeGaulle died peacefully and was not assassinated, but Forsyth's writing made me forget that I knew that and I thought, well maybe it's going to be different here.

I also learned from that book how to make a fake identity by acquiring the birth certificate of a dead guy. It's probably not possible nowadays as they've probably closed up the necessary bureaucratic loophole by now.

And the 1973 movie version is excellent.

I always wondered how Forsyth knew about this stuff. I read that he claimed to "know spooks", and they were the source, but as it turned out, he had worked for MI6 for twenty years:

The bestselling thriller author, who was an RAF pilot and a journalist before turning to fiction with The Day of the Jackal, is due to release The Outsider next week. Forsyth has previously denied claims that he worked for MI6 – “Some said that I was a spook, but I just knew a few,” he told the Guardian in 2001 – but an extract from his memoir in the Sunday Times reveals how in late 1968 a “member of the Firm” - MI6 – called Ronnie sought him out.

All of this is detailed in Forsyth's autobiography, The Outsider: My Life in Intrigue:

He was the RAF’s youngest pilot at the age of nineteen, barely escaped the wrath of an arms dealer in Hamburg, got strafed by a MiG during the Nigerian civil war, landed during a bloody coup in Guinea-Bissau (and was accused of helping fund a 1973 coup in Equatorial Guinea). The Stasi arrested him, the Israelis feted him, the IRA threatened him, and a certain attractive Czech secret police agent—well, her actions were a bit more intimate. And that’s just for starters.

He sounds like a real life version of James Bond.


Moron Recommendation

Moron lurker Floyd recommends The Doorbell Rang by Rex Stout.

For those not familiar with Mr Stout’s work it is a Murder Mystery in the Nero Wolfe series. First published in 1965 it deals with a corrupt FBI targeting a mostly innocent citizen. Seems apropos to todays news. The references to the then current income tax laws is pretty interesting as well.

So, in other words, it's kind of like an historical novel, only it wasn't intended as such. Floyd says this is true of Stout's other books:

I would recommend to anyone the entire Nero Wolfe series. Written from the thirties up to Stout’s death in the 70’s every novel is set in the time it was written. The Characters don’t age, Wolfe is always 50ish and Goodwin is always 30ish but the society they are embedded in varies from pre-WWII Americana through 50’s mad-men, 60’s civil rights, to 70’s weirdness. The fun part is that since Stout wasn’t trying to write historical fiction, he was just describing the society going on around him as he was writing, each novel is a pretty accurate picture of what society was like at the time. All of it’s good. The only era missing, and it’s not missing completely, is World War II itself since Stout was busy working for the government during the war years and didn’t publish during that time.

The Nero Wolfe books still sell at premium prices. This Kindle edition is $7.99.

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Books by Morons

A lot of you morons have read Hallow Mass, a modern-day fantasy novel written by JP Mac, the husband of a lurking 'ette. I guess it'd be called an "urban fantasy." Here is how I pimped it last year when it first came out:

This story, the first in a trilogy, takes place in the Lovecraftian universe of hideous, unnatural beings and ultimate cosmic indifference. In Dunwich, Massachusetts, only a small, beleaguered band in the Antiquities Section at Miskatonic University is keeping back trans-dimensional horrors from wiping all human life from earth in preparation for the return of the Great Old Ones. And speaking of hideous, unnatural beings, progressives have pretty much taken over Miskatonic U. and filled it with the usual P.C. blather: critical weather studies, diversity enforcement, and research into "contemporary oppression modalities". Naturally, they are completely hostile to the Antiquities Section and they think the copy of Abdul Al-Hazred's Necronomicon in the Antiquities library is just a collection of old folk religion tales that should be returned to its "original owners", i.e. a group of murderous Cthulu-cultists in nearby Dunwich who need it to bring about the return of the Great Old Ones.

Into this simmering conflict steps Mercy O'Connor, an aimless party girl grad student in the Antiquities Section who has yet to find herself or her place in life. She's about to be thrust to the front lines of the age-old battle against ultimate evil, and her only ally is her department's security guard, a descendent of Zulu warriors who loves country music and Jesus with his whole heart. Against them are arrayed all of the unimaginatively powerful dark forces of evil from time immemorial.

So how could they possibly lose?

I read this book when it was first published and I recommend it highly. One of the things I like about it is that the characters' worldviews, whether conservative or progressive, are woven inextricably into the plot and play a very big role in how the story progresses.

I've been eagerly awaiting the second book in the trilogy, but sometimes real life gets in the way. In this case, it's prostate cancer. No, not me. Him, the author, JP Mac. He's been fighting prostate cancer and writing about it in a short book, They Took My Prostate: Cancer Loss Hope:

Time is short for a broke, unemployed animation writer diagnosed with prostate cancer. Follow the medical adventures of JP Mac as he attempts to comprehend his disease, select a treatment, and snag a new health care provider all in less than two months. Told in a hilarious, sardonic style, Mac strives to keep cool as he wrestles with bureaucratic bungles, medical complications and a difficult post-treatment future. A pull-no-punches, non-fiction tale, this hopeful essay is a perfect read for guys and their families facing the number one cancer among men.

So, no horrifying elder gods here, just cancer. Which carries its own horrors. It's more like his earlier book, Jury Doody, where he recounts his jury experience:

A satirical peek at justice in Los Angeles, this short essay is the mandatory minimum you need for a fast fun read. During a domestic violence case, the author and eleven peers must sift conflicting evidence to uncover the truth: did the defendant strike his wife, or was she a coked-up loon who made eerie noises? Can annoyed, busy strangers render a just verdict? What happened to the defendant's socks? Did a juror overhear the defendant ordering pizza--and how did that affect the final outcome? Go inside the jury room and witness the chaos as twelve strangers attempt to render justice with one eye on the clock.

Only $0.99 on Kindle

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Moron author Francis Portetto has a new novel out, Innocents. Set in the near future, wherein

...Genetic engineering and zygotic microsurgery have produced both wonders and horrors. Wonders such as drugs tailored to attack a specific disease in a specific sufferer, or surgery to eliminate genetically borne handicaps before mitosis can begin. Horrors such as blindness or deafness deliberately inflicted upon unborn babies, or pitiable creatures whose bodies and minds are warped to satisfy the whims of wealthy perverts.

Security specialist Larry Sokoloff is on vacation far from home, straining to forget a woman he loves but cannot have, when Fountain, a teenaged escapee from a malevolent institution, comes under his protection. What he learns of her nature and origins lays bare the darker face of the Janus of biotechnology, and catapults him and his colleague Trish McAvoy into a mission of vengeance and cleansing. For adults only.

[Narrator]: 'For adults only' means that this book contains one or more sex scenes. Also, violence.

On Kindle for $2.99.


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Long-time lurkette Gunnar Grey e-mailed me this week to tell me about a couple of books she's published:

I do love reading and writing about forensics, and occasionally I throw out some true crime stuff. Most recently, well, back in December, I published Without a Body: Forensics investigations when there's not a lot left, and it examines how the police have solved crimes through the years when the main point of evidence in a murder isn't available, e.g., the victim.

Best yet, on Sunday it goes on sale for 99¢, and stays there until Valentine's. No, I don't suggest anybody get this book for their sweetheart, not unless said sweetheart has a bizarre sense of the romantic. (Not judging.)

Here is the Amazon blurb for Without a Body: Forensic investigations when there’s not a lot left (Old Cases Book 3):

Criminals have known for a long time that it’s not enough to move a victim’s body...and even without a body, forensic evidence always remains, sometimes in the most esoteric and strange forms, waiting to bring a killer to justice.

Without a Body presents nine fascinating cases, spanning from the 1890s to the 21st century. How does an investigator capture a killer when the body’s not around for investigating? What clues can be gathered in the body’s absence? And how can a jury convict without that single most important piece of evidence?

This actually sounds kind of interesting. I may have to grab a copy. And for 99 cents, it's a steal.

Also:

[I]n late January, my little publishing company released the third book in William Alan Webb's kick-ass right-wing military sci fi series. This one is called Standing at the Edge, and it follows the adventures of the Seventh Cavalry in a dystopian America, with bad guys falling all over the western U.S., including California.

She's talking about Standing at the Edge (The Last Brigade Book 3) by William Alan Webb, which you can pick up on Kindle for $3.99.

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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM




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1

Finished The Knights Templar, but wasn't what I expected. It was more about the Middle Ages and the Crusades in general than it was about the Knights Templar. I already had two good books on that.


Moved on to the Tower and the Hive series by Anne McCaffrey after I had been able to obtain a copy of the first book in the series which you can not buy in the US (for a Kindle).

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 11, 2018 08:54 AM (mpXpK)

2 Bookie-wooks!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 08:54 AM (qJtVm)

3 Tolle Lege
Finished Patrick O'Brien's Fortune of War and onto Surgeon's mate

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 08:55 AM (aC6Sd)

4 Wow, shopping in that book store would make me nervous.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 11, 2018 08:56 AM (mpXpK)

5 How am I too ten when I'm sleeping around with airport security on a tracker day?

Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 11, 2018 08:58 AM (ywVwQ)

6 Travel, not tracker.

Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 11, 2018 08:58 AM (ywVwQ)

7 Good morning Horde.

OT but please forgive the diversion. Please keep prayers in your heart for two cops from my area who were KIA yesterday. Good guys both who were ambushed responding to a domestic.

Everyone knows everyone here - this really stings.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 11, 2018 08:59 AM (tr2D7)

8 And screwing around, not sleeping around. I hate my phone.

Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 11, 2018 08:59 AM (ywVwQ)

9 Can't go there. Afraid of heights.

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:00 AM (lwiT4)

10 Currently reading some good space opra by Stephen Arseneault. Several multi-book series, independent author too.

Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 11, 2018 09:01 AM (ywVwQ)

11 Good Sunday morning, horde!

My husband is a huge fan of Nero Wolfe. I got him the Nero Wolfe cookbook for Christmas, and he pored over it for hours. It's all pretty complicated stuff, so we may never make any of it, but it's a fun book to read, all the same.

Posted by: April at February 11, 2018 09:02 AM (e8PP1)

12 Please keep prayers in your heart for two cops from my area who were KIA
yesterday. Good guys both who were ambushed responding to a domestic.
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I read about that. So senseless. I think Franklin Graham put up a prayer for their families and the community, yesterday on Facebook. My sincere condolences.

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:02 AM (lwiT4)

13 I'm reading Mapping Naval Warfare: A Visual History of Conflict at Sea by Jeremy Black.

It is the best kind of history book, i.e., chiefly pictures. In this case, maps. I lurve maps.

But I’m learning tidbits of interesting facts, like: the Polynesians and Vikings came from cultures with oral traditions and while their seafarers acquired a vast amount of accumulated knowledge and personal experience, their ability to disseminate it was limited. They mostly sailed in familiar waters in within sight of land.

The development of portolan charts, decorated with numerous compass roses for direction from a given point on the map, and rhumb lines for wind direction, used similar symbols but lacked common scales or units of measure, and were essentially directional guides. They were mainly used for coastal travel.

The Portuguese in their travels encountered a wide range of naval powers: China, India, Egypt, the Ottomans, and the Indonesians. In contrast, the Spanish dealt with the Aztecs, Incans, and Mayans, none of whom had navies. Only against the Philippines was there any naval opposition.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 09:02 AM (qJtVm)

14 Still working my way through Jordan Peterson's book.

Not totally comfortable with some of his take on biblical writings.
Bu for the most part, what he writes, makes sense.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 09:02 AM (EyPfd)

15 Does anyone else buy used textbooks on Amazon? I asked the same question recently regarding used books in general, and lots of people said they do, but you can get great deals on used textbooks. I avoid the social sciences (naturally) but for orher topics they can be very useful. Like botany or electrical circuits or human anatomy (pictures!)

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:02 AM (Sfs6o)

16 I bought a few books last week at Costco. Jonathon Kellerman, David Silva, John Sandford (the Virgil Flowers series)
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They are bought. I have no idea when they will actually be read.

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:04 AM (lwiT4)

17 9 consecutive days with measurable snow in Chicago area.. another 5 inches or so last night..

With knee problems, I've been paying a young guy to shovel my driveway.. I'm gonna go broke!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 11, 2018 09:04 AM (5tSKk)

18 Good morning my fellow Book Threadists. It has been an interesting week of reading here at Chez JTB: fun and with some surprises.

But first, Amazon has Volume 2 (for 2.99) and voume 4 (for 1.99) of Winston Churchill's biography of Marlborough. They offered volume one at a discount some time ago. I hope they eventually offer volume 3 on sale. These are the kind of books I prefer to have in hardcover but they are too damn expensive and I haven't yet found copies at the local used book store. I'll just have to muddle through Churchill's magnificent writing on a screen for now.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 09:05 AM (V+03K)

19 Does anyone else buy used textbooks on Amazon? I
asked the same question recently regarding used books in general, and
lots of people said they do, but you can get great deals on used
textbooks. I avoid the social sciences (naturally) but for orher topics
they can be very useful. Like botany or electrical circuits or human
anatomy (pictures!)

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:02 AM (Sfs6o)
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My daughter has a Master's degree in Nursing. She bought almost all her textbooks online through Amazon. Saved a ton of money.

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:05 AM (lwiT4)

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9 consecutive days with measurable snow in Chicago area.. another 5 inches or so last night..



With knee problems, I've been paying a young guy to shovel my driveway.. I'm gonna go broke!



Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 11, 2018 09:04 AM (5tSKk)
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It's been something else, hasn't it Jerry? We have a guy two houses down that plows us out and does our shoveling. I think he's been here every day this week at $30 a pop.

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:07 AM (lwiT4)

21 Oh, and there is a great new/used bookstore and coffee shop in the small town of Appomattox near where I purchased some land recently. It's full of young college people trying to be beatniks or something. They appear to have live music sometimes too. Their section on local history is extensive.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:07 AM (Sfs6o)

22 Read 'Remembered Prisoners of a Forgotten War: An Oral History of Korean War POWs' by Lewis H. Carlson.

Officially 7,140 Americans were taken prisoner during the Korean War and about 40% died in captivity. T.R. Fehrenbach, who wrote 'This Kind of War', wrote it's closer to 58%. Most have read about the Battaan Death March and the Malmedy Massacre of WW2. Few have probably read about the Tiger Death March, the Sunch'On Tunnel Massacre, the Taejon Massacre, and the Hill 303 Massacre during the Korean War. Instead we've been treated to movies and books describing the POWs as easily brainwashed, turncoats, and collaborators. Carlson does a great job debunking those myths and lies, and describes the brutal conditions they had to endure. The truth is they behaved no differently than POWs of any War.

Some head music.

Dead Can Dance-Bylar
https://youtu.be/eCpR3qbWz7A

Messer Chups-They Call Me Zombie
https://youtu.be/XSwYu3reUVU

Flying Burrito Brothers-Christine's Tune
https://youtu.be/BITiY8M_oDo

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at February 11, 2018 09:08 AM (+ufX6)

23 Does anyone else buy used textbooks on Amazon?

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Jr. Black is in his 3rd year at USC. He gets whatever used textbooks he can from Amazon. Saves a LOT of money.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 11, 2018 09:08 AM (mQ0Mc)

24 Not totally comfortable with some of his take on biblical writings.
Bu for the most part, what he writes, makes sense.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 09:02 AM (EyPfd)


Last night my wife and I were watching a long speech he gave at a Trump hotel. She asked at a certain point if he was a fundamentalist. I don't think so, I said. But yeah, he takes a different pov then I do.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 09:08 AM (2FqvZ)

25 I'll recommend a book I think should be (and probably will be) cross-posted on the Pet Thread:
"The Book of Barkley: Love and Life Through the Eyes of a Labrador Retriever"
by L.B. Johnson.
I really enjoyed this quasi-autobiographical book about life with a dog, even though,as you might expect with real life based books, it is a somewhat bittersweet story because all dogs leave us far too soon. The protagonist does seem like either a potential, or actual, Moronette so that's all to the good.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 09:09 AM (gwPgz)

26 I never get tired of Nero Wolfe stories and "The Doorbell Rang" is one of the best. (The DVD of the Nero Wolfe series that was on A and E a few years ago did an excellent job with it as well. Of course those a-holes canecelled the series to concentrate on more 'reality' TV. F'ing idiots.)

We have the Nero Wolfe Cookbook. It is a hoot but it would be tough to make any of the recipes.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 09:09 AM (V+03K)

27 The 'false ID using birth certificate of a dead person' trick was also heavily used by radicals during the 60's-70's. They started closing up those loopholes, IIRC, when they successfully proved that Weatherman was using it to give themselves fake IDs that would hold up to casual scrutiny.

Posted by: Toastrider at February 11, 2018 09:09 AM (49/Y7)

28 Weasel, I buy textbooks at Amazon, because I like reading older history textbooks. For infotainment, certainly not for "higher learning".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 09:11 AM (qJtVm)

29 I seem to have had a major change in my reading preferences, at least for fiction. I got the latest James Rollins Sigma Force book, "Demon Crown", from the library after waiting a long time. I've been reading the series since it began. Got about three chapters into it and closed the book. Nothing wrong with it: it had the usual interplay of historical connections, modern dangers and creative scientific matters. And Rollin's writing is always fine. But it didn't hold my interest. I realized I've had the same problem with a lot of the recent Clive Cussler series and I have been a HUGE fan of his books for decades. I don't read much fiction set in contemporary times. Novels 'torn from today's headlines' have no appeal.

I'm not sure what's behind the change but here are some possibilities:

1. They are too close to the news and turmoil, social and political, that inundates us every second of every day and I need to get away from it for leisure. (This also may be why I haven't missed TV since we got rid of cable.)
2. Too formulaic, although that doesn't effect my enjoyment of Nero Wolfe, PG Wodehouse books or Sherlock Holmes stories and they are somewhat formulaic.
3. I need a better/higher/different level of writing than these action novels provide. Most of my recent fiction reading has been from earlier times and demonstrate a different pace and expressive use of language. Jules Verne, Moby Dick, H. Rider Haggard, Dickens (sometimes), Jane Austen, 18th and 19th century poetry, all qualify. I suspect reading Tolkien and CS Lewis with their exquisite use of language has been part of the change. Add Winston Churchill's writing to that, even though it is non-fiction. I savor their writing like enjoying a fine wine or whiskey.
4. I might just be sick and tired of most of the 21st century on many levels and don't want it in my leisure reading.
5. I'm getting cranky and persnickety in my old age or just losing it.

Anyone else finding this going on in their reading habits?

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 09:11 AM (V+03K)

30 I read Sagger Anti-Tank Missile vs M60 Main Battle Tank by Chris McNab. Part of Osprey Publishing's "Duel" series, the book examines the use of the Sagger ATGM by the Egyptians against the Israeli M60 tanks during the Yom Kippur War of 1973. It gives technical details of the rival weapon systems and accounts from both sides (mostly from the Isreali perspective, however). The author assesses the combatants pretty evenly and comes to the conclusion that a combination of well-trained Egyptian Sagger crews and over-confident Israeli tank crews with no knowledge of anti-tank missiles lead to the about 25% of the Israeli tank losses. By the end of the war, the Israeli tankers developed better tactics to counter the ATGM threat. This book has a narrow focus but is a good study of the topic. Rating = 4.5/5.

In the fiction category, I'm currently reading A Long Time Until Now by Michael Z. Williamson because it got mentioned on the book thread a while back. The story is about a group of 10 US military types getting whisked back to about 20,000 BC. Williamson's writing style is good, but the story has been boring. I'm about a third of the way through the 600 page novel and not too much has happened so far. No rating yet.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 11, 2018 09:11 AM (5Yee7)

31 It's been something else, hasn't it Jerry? We have a guy two houses down that plows us out and does our shoveling. I think he's been here every day this week at $30 a pop.
Posted by: grammie winger
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Yeah.. it sure has! It's payback for the relatively light winters we've had recently..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 11, 2018 09:11 AM (5tSKk)

32
Still working my way through Jordan Peterson's book.

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What is the title? - I might be interested.

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:11 AM (lwiT4)

33 *shakes tiny fist of fury at OM*

Dang you, OM. I thought my TBR stack couldn't get any higher, but now you've gone and done it! Today's BT is a veritable plethora of must-haves!

Currently reading Nelson DeMille's The Cuban Affair and loving it. It has lots of laugh-out-loud parts thanks to the protagonist's first mate, a grizzled, non-PC, Vietnam Vet who wears T-shirts with slogans like, "Guns don't kill people, I do" and "Kill a Commie for Christ."

Posted by: SandyCheeks at February 11, 2018 09:12 AM (ihzOe)

34 Good morning, horde!

Two manuscripts finished in two days! This isn't quite as cool as it sounds, since I was within 300 words of the end of Lady Hartington's Redemption, and 600 words away from the end of In Pursuit of Justice. But it's two more projects under my belt, and soon to be available to the rest of the world!

I just finished PJ O'Rourke's "Eat the Rich", and learned more about economics than I did in the 2 or 3 classes I took in college. A fascinating look at how economics and culture interact to produce success (USA, Hong Kong) or failure (Cuba, Tanzania). It's a little dated, being from the late nineties, but still full of good basic info. And I acquired it at Christmas from a liberal relative who had no idea that she was furthering my conservative education, which makes me giggle.

Next on the reading list of "1177 BC: When Civilization Collapsed".

Posted by: right wing yankee at February 11, 2018 09:13 AM (obZ4W)

35 Aaannnnd it's snowing again. Because of course it is.

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:13 AM (lwiT4)

36 "Anyone else finding this going on in their reading habits? "

Yup..
Exactly as you said.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 09:15 AM (EyPfd)

37 I started using abebooks.com based on recommendations from here. You need to know exactly what you want because it offers almost no background info, but the used books are typically cheaper than the amazon used books and the service is just as fast. Don't know if they carry textbooks, but they have come through with nice used copies of some of the more obscure books referenced here.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 09:15 AM (gwPgz)

38 JTB, I read Bone Labyrinth a couple of weeks ago (James Rollins), and almost quit about halfway through.

Yeah, there was intrigue, but it seemed super contrived in parts, and the other thing was the language. It just seemed so simplistic and uninteresting.

A great story should have great language, and the descriptions and action just seemed "dead." I don't know how else to describe that. I don't expect to read any more Rollins.

Posted by: April at February 11, 2018 09:16 AM (e8PP1)

39 grammie

Link to Peterson's book at Amazon

http://tinyurl.com/y8tjmgj6

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 09:16 AM (EyPfd)

40 I mentioned last week that I've been reading about colonial and early American fy fishing and am tempted to put together some gear to try. (This goes along with my interest in traditional black powder guns and gear, historical fiber arts, and that period of history in general.) A few folks expressed interest in the subject so here is some of the reading I am finding very helpful:

"The Fly-Fisher's Craft" by Darrel Martin. This really covers it all from ancient times to the present. Want to learn what flies were used 300 years ago and their compnents? How were hooks formed? What did they use for fishing line and how was it created? (Hint: Being on good terms with a horse might have helped.) What did they use for poles, how were they assembled and how did that effect fishing techniques? How have these traditional materials, attitudes, and styles morphed into today's hobby.

"The Colonial Angler's Manual of Flyfishing and Flytying" by Ken Reinard. This book covers the colonial period for fly fishing from the point of view of a re-enactor. It covers discovering source material, old surviving gear to copy, re-learning how the gear was made, how to present these things to the public through re-enacting, etc.

There are several older books that deal with flies and fly fishing for their time. "The History of Fly Fishing in Fifty Flies" by Ian Whitelaw. "Trout Magic" and "Trout Madness" by Robert Traver. Books about flies by the Orvis family written in the 1800s. Even a chapter from "Woodcraft and Camping" by Nessmuk, written in 1894.

There are articles and Youtube videos about the topic. I came across one man who has recreated George Washington's fishing kit for the Mount Vernon Association. He even operates a small business that sells processed horse tail hair that can be braided into fishing line, period correct hooks and other period gear. Search Youtube under 'colonial angling'.

I don't intend to turn the book thread into a treatise about fishing but these are some of the sources I've been reading on the subject and thoroughly enjoying. And yesterday the latest copy of Fly Tyer magazine arrived. It's their 40th anniversary issue. Talk about serendipity.

I'm aware this is a rather obscure area of interest. But from a sporting and historic perspective it is fun.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 09:16 AM (V+03K)

41 "I was surprised to see how often the name David Brock appears. He did a lot of investigative journalism for that magazine, and I hate to say this, but I'm kind of sorry we lost him."

Never say that. Never, ever say that. That's like saying "you know Hitler really did do some nice work against the communists, I'm sorry we lost him."

David Brock is a deeply Evil man, deeply deeply Evil. Has has some talent (although he's squandered it) he had the skill to get to the heart of some things - and then, knowing the truth of some things, he made a conscious, deliberate effort to sell it all out and spend the rest of his life carefully crafting lies, work that he KNEW beyond a doubt was all lies, just because he thought he wasn't getting enough recognition or money.

read some of the records of his legal fight with his gay live in lover, and why he had to pay him $850k to shut up about how he'd defrauded the IRS, among others. Brock is another one who needed his dem friends in the IRS and DOJ to keep him out of federal prison. As I said, Brock is not just on the other side - Brock is a deeply, deeply, Evil man. I will be extremely overjoyed on the day I read his obituary.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 11, 2018 09:17 AM (V2Yro)

42 Thanks OregonMuse.

That's an impressive public library.
Always appreciate the moron library pics too.

My reading this week was dominated by Chernow's Grant biography in audio format. I'd put a hold on it when I saw it in my library system and it took a few months for my turn. Book & narration were first rate. 48 hours at 1x speed, but there is an abridged version also. I was not bored at all with the full version.

I also made a little progress with Landmark Caesar. I expect it'll take me about a year to finish. Enjoying Caesar's style, reading with minimal references to footnotes. I intend to go back after finishing each 'chapter' for more thorough review of all the supplemental material.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike -formerly; Southeast PA lurker at February 11, 2018 09:17 AM (vFHFh)

43 Went to my library a few days back and in addition to the aforementioned map book found two interesting reads:

The Taking of K-129, how the CIA used Howard Hughes to steal a Russian sub in the most daring covert operation in history, by Josh Dean; and

Pride and Prejudice by (duh) Jane Austen. I've never actually read anything by Janey -- I know, I know -- and this new edition has illustrations on every page, which as we've established is a preference. Here's an Amazon link:

https://tinyurl.com/y9c4grqp

Scroll down for illos.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 09:17 AM (qJtVm)

44 Ah, a fresh new book thread, smelling faintly of wood-polish and old paper ...
I don't think I care for the Library o'the Week - too jangly, modern, and devoid of cozy book-reading nooks. The available chairs are probably spindly modern things with hard molded plywood seats.

Reading Connie Willis' Blackout, and the sequel or Part Two - All Clear. I have to say that she really did her WWII research. And I'm tempted to get out some of my old juvenalia set in that period to see if I can salvage anything useful from it.

Finally - the print version of Lone Star Glory is finally up at Amazon, for those who prefer the paper version of my old west adventures. https://tinyurl.com/yb7eselo and it has a review already!

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at February 11, 2018 09:19 AM (xnmPy)

45 We're meeting some dear friends for brunch shortly. BBL to catch up with the thread.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 09:19 AM (V+03K)

46 Without a body stories. Reminds me that garret and I talked about such a case earlier in the week.

I am going from memory of a show that focused on this case. Airline pilot murders his wife, lets her get nice and stiff in a freezer, rents a large wood chipper, and gets rid of the body that way.

Except he made a few errors. Biggest one was doing the disposal in such extreme conditions, a snow storm, and such an odd location, on a bridge, that his actions became memorable to the few who saw it.

But how they got the conviction was simple, even a wood chipper could not destroy beyond identification all parts of her body, namely the teeth. Plus he misjudged the location of where the remains would get thrown, they ended up on the river bank and not in the river. And IIRC her blood was found inside the wood chipper.

So the perfect crime failed and the husband was convicted.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 09:20 AM (5Td5d)

47 As I searched through back issues of AmSpec looking for the article I remembered, I was surprised to see how often the name David Brock appears. He did a lot of investigative journalism for that magazine, and I hate to say this, but I'm kind of sorry we lost him.

Brock could've appeared in a Wes Craven movie with just his abnormal appearance. Missing him is like missing an STD. Or McCain. The barbed cock of Satan awaits that sick pile of shit. Have I made my feelings adequately known?

I finished Cold Comfort Farm and thanks to the 'ettes who gave me positive feedback because as I progressed through it my reactions went from "this is dangerously close to the type of stuff I really hate" to "this is ok" to "this is really really good". I don't think I've read anything quite like it, which at my age is no mean feat. Someone elsewhere told me Stella Gibbons's The Bachelor is also very good; any opinions on that?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 11, 2018 09:20 AM (y7DUB)

48 Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 09:11 AM (V+03K)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 09:15 AM (EyPfd)


Same here, I also think some of the more current fiction has been dumbed down to match the current level of reading skills produced by our magnificent institution of higher learning.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 09:20 AM (gwPgz)

49 I read Submission by Michael Houellebecq, trans. Lorin Stein. This is a hard novel for me to classify. It's been called a satirical look at the soft takeover of France and Europe. In the French elections of 2022, the Muslim Brotherhood party finishes second to Le Pen's National Front. In the following runoff, the Socialists throw their support to the Muslim Brotherhood, and France gets its first Muslim government.

Francois is a lecturer at the Sorbonne, and after Islamic law comes into force, he must convert to Islam to continue at the university. The book follows his life for a few years until he makes his decision.

Adam Gopnik, writing in The New Yorker, has said of Submission that Houellebecq is "not merely a satirist but - more unusually- a sincere satirist, genuinely saddened by the absurdities of history and the madness of mankind."

Note: Some graphic sex scenes.

Posted by: Zoltan at February 11, 2018 09:22 AM (T8WeQ)

50
28 Weasel, I buy textbooks at Amazon, because I like reading older history textbooks. For infotainment, certainly not for "higher learning".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 09:11 AM (qJtVm)
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That's what I mean, AHE. When I have a particular area of interest I look for used textbooks on the subject. Not to read cover to cover, but as reference.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:22 AM (Sfs6o)

51 Anyone else finding this going on in their reading habits?



Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 09:11 AM (V+03K)
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Nope. Just the opposite. The older I get, all I want is beach reads. Too dumb to care.

The one exception are Christian books. Right now I am working my way through "His Last Words" by Kim Erickson. It's a study on what Jesus taught and prayed in His final hours. John 13 - 17. It's really good.

I do a lot of audiobooks too (Christian) when I drive back and forth to babysit, which is an hour long trip.

But when I read for pleasure, I want Virgil Flowers-type stuff. Just for fun.

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:22 AM (lwiT4)

52 Paramount Network used to be Spike TV until very recently. Like the last month or so.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 11, 2018 09:24 AM (2kiKp)

53 Great overnight book thread.

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 11, 2018 09:25 AM (5fRCd)

54 Link to Peterson's book at Amazon



http://tinyurl.com/y8tjmgj6

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 09:16 AM (EyPfd)
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Thanks VIA!

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:26 AM (lwiT4)

55 I just finished PJ O'Rourke's "Eat the Rich", and learned more about economics than I did in the 2 or 3 classes I took in college. A fascinating look at how economics and culture interact to produce success (USA, Hong Kong) or failure (Cuba, Tanzania). It's a little dated, being from the late nineties,

That was back when he still had a functioning cortex, sense of humor and writing ability. His recent stuff in the Weekly Standard is just brutally unreadable. Maybe that dicknose was the source of the brainworm that turned Kristol and Hayes into fucking retards and not Egg McMuffin.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 11, 2018 09:26 AM (y7DUB)

56 Great overnight book thread.

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 11, 2018 09:25 AM (5fRCd)
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Are you in back of me or in front of me?

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:27 AM (lwiT4)

57 I'd always been a fan of Raymond Chandler but that was the only mystery writer I liked until my wife, through the AE TV series got me into Nero Wolfe. She also hooked me on the Steve Hamilton "Alex McKnight" series set in Michigan. Add in Sherlock and that's the extent of my mystery reading experience.

Posted by: geoffb at February 11, 2018 09:28 AM (zOpu5)

58 3 Tolle Lege
Finished Patrick O'Brien's Fortune of War and onto Surgeon's mate
Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 08:55 AM (aC6Sd)

The two in which Diana Villiers isn't more trouble than she's worth. However hot she may be, she's a perpetual headache. No wonder Stephen need laudanum.

I haven't seen the Wolfe cookbook, but I have trouble believing corn fritters would be that hard to make. I read, just last month, the Zeck trilogy. The 3rd is far the worst Wolfe I've encountered. When I read them, I want Nero Wolfe, not some imposter with the same name.

But the other I just read, Fer de Lance, was interesting. Wolfe doesn't whine quite as much, but he's still good. (I count myself with John Dickson Carr, and against Jacques Barzun, on the matter of Nero vs Archie.)

Posted by: George LeS at February 11, 2018 09:28 AM (+TcCF)

59
Anyone else finding this going on in their reading habits?

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 09:11 AM (V+03K)


Very much so, and the same thing is happening with my TV/movie viewing. I suppose that if you read enough, you can distinguish really good writing from the journeyman stuff, and you want more of the good stuff. Wine and scotch are other parallels. When you're young, you think Boone's Farm is great. When you're older, you recognize the difference between swill and higher quality wines (which is not to say wine snobbery).

Posted by: pep at February 11, 2018 09:29 AM (LAe3v)

60 Eris, I have both those books and enjoyed them both. The Dean book is really detailed and interesting.

I can't believe you never read Austen before, though! You might want to read them all when you finish that one.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 09:29 AM (kNasr)

61 Add in Sherlock and that's the extent of my mystery reading experience.


Posted by: geoffb at February 11, 2018 09:28 AM (zOpu5)
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If you're interested, John Sandford had a series of mysteries that you might enjoy.

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:30 AM (lwiT4)

62 Thanks for the shoutout! And if you guys haven't read Gunnar Grey's stuff, you really should. She does 'Rontettedom proud!

Someone mentioned Stephen Arsenault and his series is also top notch.

Posted by: William Alan Webb at February 11, 2018 09:31 AM (OhYcy)

63 51 Anyone else finding this going on in their reading habits?

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 09:11 AM (V+03K)

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My reading habits have always gone from intellectual to what I term "mind candy." I really like good history and stuff that will make you go "hmmm."

But, sometimes one needs that mental sugar rush of a book that is enjoyable in the moment but forgettable in long run.

Though, I do admit that I've become curmudgeonly enough that if the pacing, plot holes or suspension of disbelief become too much, I'll put the book aside.

Posted by: Blake at February 11, 2018 09:33 AM (WEBkv)

64 On the Kindle, I read Oath of Office, by Jack Mars. This is the second book of seven in the Luke Stone series. I didn't read the first of the series, Any Means Necessary, but after reading Oath, I want to read the entire series.

Oath is a fast-paced thriller featuring a stolen vial of weapons-grade Ebola, definitely non-PC Arab terrorists, and man of action, Luke Stone, and his rapid response team. Great lit. it ain't, but it's an exciting well-done read.

Finally, I went back to John Maddox Robert's SPQR series to read volume VII, The Tribune's Curse. As always, a good mystery; but I like leaning little factoids of life in Rome in 55 B. C., such as the beggers of Rome had a guild and prime spots for begging were given out according to seniority. Roberts also peppers his books with humor. Enjoyable reads.

Posted by: Zoltan at February 11, 2018 09:33 AM (T8WeQ)

65 I used to have a book in the library on the clandestine recovery of that Kilo-class sub off Hawai'i. May have to investigate the stacks to see if I still have it.

But one thing I remember was during the construction phase of the ship and they were working on retrieval methods, some engineer who was not cleared for the real story suggested to them a design very similar to what was actually used.

And I still love the term the Moon Pool.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 09:33 AM (5Td5d)

66 And of course, for pure camp, there's Agatha Christie.

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:34 AM (lwiT4)

67 Kind of book related tidbit I learned this week:

"Trump" was a glossy magazine of satire and humor, mostly in the forms of comics features and short stories. It was edited by Harvey Kurtzman (Mad Magazine) and published by Hugh Hefner, with only two issues produced in 1957.

Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2018 09:35 AM (UdKB7)

68 In front of you.

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 11, 2018 09:35 AM (5fRCd)

69 In front of you.

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 11, 2018 09:35 AM (5fRCd)
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Are things going well?

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:37 AM (lwiT4)

70 IMO O'Rourke's last original work worth reading was Peace Kills. Then he tried to rebrand himself as a Deep Thinking Sage... Only problem being, he isn't, he's an observant travel reporter and should have stayed that way. Promoted to level of incompetence, etcetera. Everything since then has been, as the War Boys say, "MEDIOCRE!"

AmSpec ran a good article on left behind Vietnam POW's, as well. And The Tragedy of MacDeth was good.

"In the cauldron boil and bake
Packwood's acne, Bobbit's ache
Lorena's shiv and Tonya's shank
Constituents of Barney Frank
Eye of World Trade Center bomber
Midnight snack of Jeffrey Dahmer..."

Posted by: Vanya at February 11, 2018 09:37 AM (ZmtfW)

71 Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 09:11 AM (V+03K)

Many years ago I was sitting on the beach reading a Robert Ludlum novel and I encountered one too many extremely implausible situation and just thought "I'm wasting my time reading this; it's time to read something of greater quality". And that's guided me since. I stopped reading Charles Stross because he wouldn't leave global warming hectoring out of his books to the point that the irritation from that outweighed his dwindling new and interesting concepts. I've stopped reading some book group choices when they just got too irritating and I've put one homo on notice that just because some NYT dickweed likes something doesn't mean it's good. Fuck that shit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 11, 2018 09:40 AM (y7DUB)

72 front of you.

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 11, 2018 09:35 AM (5fRCd)
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Are things going well?
Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:37 AM (lwiT4)

Very well indeed, other than the fact I'm overeating and the site of the odd dog sized cockroach.

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 11, 2018 09:41 AM (5fRCd)

73 3. I need a better/higher/different level of writing than these action novels provide. Most of my recent fiction reading has been from earlier times and demonstrate a different pace and expressive use of language....
4. I might just be sick and tired of most of the 21st century on many levels and don't want it in my leisure reading.
5. I'm getting cranky and persnickety in my old age or just losing it.

Anyone else finding this going on in their reading habits?
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Oh very much yes. I am a 19th Century person living in the 21st Century. I like to perambulate through a well-crafted paragraph at a leisurely pace.

I am somehow at the same time a 24th Century person trapped in the past.

Can't explain the feeling of being a temporal orphan.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 09:42 AM (qJtVm)

74 dog sized cockroach.
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I hope they don't serve that on a stick.

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:43 AM (lwiT4)

75 If you're interested, John Sandford had a series of mysteries that you might enjoy.


Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:30 AM (lwiT4)

I see he has several related series. Any particular best place to start?

Posted by: geoffb at February 11, 2018 09:43 AM (zOpu5)

76
That was back when he still had a functioning
cortex, sense of humor and writing ability. His recent stuff in the
Weekly Standard is just brutally unreadable. Maybe that dicknose was
the source of the brainworm that turned Kristol and Hayes into fucking
retards and not Egg McMuffin.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 11, 2018 09:26 AM (y7DUB)
Ugh. I was looking forward to reading more of his stuff. Maybe I'll stick with the older works. I've heard "Parliament of Whores" is not bad.

Posted by: right wing yankee at February 11, 2018 09:45 AM (obZ4W)

77 Anyone else finding this going on in their reading habits?
JTB

Tom Clancy & Arthur C Clarke were once dominant & representative of my reading. Jerry Pournelle & a few others knocked me into historical reading. Fiction or non fiction, if a book has stuck around for 50, 100 or 2,000 years it's a strong clue that you won't feel you're wasting time reading them.

I try to listen to at least one 'classic' book a month. Between librivox, audible and the library, it's not hard to quickly build a back list at little to no cost.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike -formerly; Southeast PA lurker at February 11, 2018 09:46 AM (vFHFh)

78 I see he has several related series. Any particular best place to start?


Posted by: geoffb at February 11, 2018 09:43 AM (zOpu5)
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There's only one book of his that has disappointed me. I honestly can't remember which one. You could take them in chronological order, but not necessarily from the beginning. If you jumped into the middle of the Prey series, you'd miss some backstory but you'd be fine. I think the Virgil Flowers series you could just pick at random. Don't bother with the Kidd series. I didn't care for them.

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:46 AM (lwiT4)

79 I'm reading Mapping Naval Warfare: A Visual History of Conflict at Sea by Jeremy Black.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 09:02 AM

That sounds like a neat book. For a long time I've been interesting in how places got their names. During the 1400s when Portugal was a major sea power King Jaol sent Bartolomeu Dias to find the passage around Africa to the east and India. In 1488 Diaz rounded the southern tip of Africa and sailed a short distance up it's east coast. When he returned to Portugal he told Jaol it should be named 'The Cape of Storms' because of the difficult passage. Jaol, who would have made a great Madison Avenue ad man, said no. He named it 'The Cape of Good Hope'.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at February 11, 2018 09:46 AM (+ufX6)

80 Since the MSM has gone gaga over Kim il Ding-Dong's sister at the Olympics, the Muse has been encouraging me to bat something out about her.

Here is a start.

Kim Yo Jong paused at the top of the stairs and turned to look out across the tarmac and wave at the crowds gathered to see her depart now the Olympics were over. The smile she bestowed on those below watching was not full of milk and honey. It was more the grin of a predator satisfied after a successful hunt. In fact it was a smile fit to scare a kumiho off her meal of hot fresh liver.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 09:47 AM (5Td5d)

81 Read the free sample of Devin Murphy's "The Boat Runner" and am going to click BUY when back in home WiFi turf.

Anybody read it?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 11, 2018 09:47 AM (BeKMO)

82 Or would that be a trans-temporal orphan?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 09:48 AM (5Td5d)

83 The MFM going gaga over a genocidal maniac has a long tradition.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 11, 2018 09:49 AM (y7DUB)

84 Amusingly, I recently read a 'blog post by Charles Stross himself making the same complaint. In his case he's mad because most science fiction doesn't assume market economics are going to disappear, and apparently Charles now simply cannot stand reading stories which don't assume a Glorious Socialist Utopia any more.

Oh, and by the way, he's an aspie.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 11, 2018 09:50 AM (pZakj)

85 Or would that be a trans-temporal orphan?
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I have all my factory originals, honey!

*flounces off in a huff*

Actually, Trans-Temporal Orphan is a great title for a book. You're welcome.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 09:50 AM (qJtVm)

86 I grew up in malate teens with Clive Cussler, starting with Raise the Titanic.

And then abut the same time that the collaborative writing began, I simply lost interest.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 09:51 AM (EyPfd)

87 I was looking forward to reading more of his stuff. Maybe I'll stick with the older works. I've heard "Parliament of Whores" is not bad.
Posted by: right wing yankee at February 11, 2018 09:45 AM (obZ4W)

Holidays in Hell is dated, but very good. Republican Party Reptile has 'Ship of Fools' (subscribers to The Nation magazine tour the Soviet Union) which is worth the price of admission by itself.

Give War a Chance is good, but it ends on the 'high' after Gulf War One, and... Yeah. Parliament of Whores is good, as is All the Trouble in the World.

Posted by: Vanya at February 11, 2018 09:51 AM (ZmtfW)

88 How to make a Trans-Temporal Orphan
1. 1950's starlet body
2. 24th Century brain
3. Late Victorian fashion sense
4. Mix well.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 09:53 AM (5Td5d)

89 I still enjoy the Danial Silva writings.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 09:54 AM (EyPfd)

90 I highly second the Nero Wolfe recommendation. And I did buy Hallow Mass and loved it. It's absolutely scathing when it comes to the PC atmosphere of modern universities.

Posted by: Dr Alice at February 11, 2018 09:55 AM (LaT54)

91 Finished second book in The Expanse series, Caliban's War. You bastages have got me hooked.
Thumbs up upthread for "A Long Time until Now" and "The Cuban Affair".

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 09:56 AM (uZ8ZO)

92 Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 09:53 AM (5Td5d)

It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a space privateer must be in want of a wife...

Posted by: Vanya at February 11, 2018 09:56 AM (ZmtfW)

93 83: Yep, if you can find old magazines from 1939-40 you will find articles on Hitler's brilliant decorating tastes, Nazi beauties, and American college girls sporting swastikas on their lapels in admiration of goose stepping German boys.

I bought a pile of old Life mags, years ago when younger daughter was doing some report on pre-WWII attitudes, it was an eye opener.

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 09:59 AM (5gaNQ)

94 Yep, if you can find old magazines from 1939-40 you will find articles
on Hitler's brilliant decorating tastes, Nazi beauties, and American
college girls sporting swastikas on their lapels in admiration of goose
stepping German boys.
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That's disgusting.

Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 10:01 AM (lwiT4)

95 In his case he's mad because most science fiction doesn't assume market economics are going to disappear, and apparently Charles now simply cannot stand reading stories which don't assume a Glorious Socialist Utopia any more.
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Because making the tremendous efforts to conduct interstellar commerce should not be rewarded with profit.

In Karl Schroeder's interesting SF novel Permanence there is the hyper-libertarian system called the Rights Economy wherein all objects are nano-tagged to ensure payment is given for all intellectual property, and it is strictly enforced. There was a chilly scene where a container of these nano-tags was opened and the released tags floated around attaching themselves to all and sundry in the room.

It actually seems like the opposite of Libertarianism to me but I assume Schroeder is a bit of a Socialist.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 10:03 AM (qJtVm)

96 Wasn't James Bond a fictional version of Ian Fleming?

Posted by: BJ54 at February 11, 2018 10:03 AM (M/3Um)

97 test

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 10:04 AM (gwPgz)

98 You passed, Hrothie.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 10:05 AM (qJtVm)

99 94: Yes it was. Life's pre-war (pre US entry, anyway) were "neutral" to the point of advocating admiration. The one article was a pictorial of Hitler escorting "Nazi beauties" to various social and musical events , with equally fawning pics of his deputies and their wives who were dressed and jeweled to the nines. You'd have thought he was the world's most eligible bachelor.

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 10:05 AM (5gaNQ)

100 They loved Mussolini,they loved Stalin,they loved Hitler.They loved FDR?

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2018 10:05 AM (LiyEm)

101 Is Hrothgar going to tap dance on the rim of the Barrel again?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 10:06 AM (5Td5d)

102 To be fair, fascists have the best threads.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 10:07 AM (qJtVm)

103 "That's disgusting."

But unfortunately, very true.

And that is without the discussion on the embracing of eugenics.

All the rage by the Progressives of the day.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 10:07 AM (EyPfd)

104 "Girls go crazy for a sharped dressed Nazi."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 10:09 AM (5Td5d)

105 Eris

I found a copy of a book called "The Nautical Chart" translated from Spanish at McKays in Manassas. Pretty good read I thought.
The interesting thing was that it pointed out something I should have known, Namely that the major seafaring powers back in the day each had their own maps and used a local/national observatory as the 0 degrees longitude reference.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 10:09 AM (gwPgz)

106 Pixy was blocking my posts, never could figure out what was the problem so I rewrote the whole thing.

Dances away...

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 10:11 AM (gwPgz)

107 Ok, post-100, and I can't wait till next week's Pet Thread. Woke up this morning and Mia, our 13 y.o. Siamese, had brought us her first ever mouse. On the bed. At Mrs. Red's feet.
To her credit, instead of screaming, her first words were, "Take a picture!"

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 10:11 AM (uZ8ZO)

108 Yep, if you can find old magazines from 1939-40 you will find articles on Hitler's brilliant decorating tastes, Nazi beauties, and American college girls sporting swastikas on their lapels in admiration of goose stepping German boys.

Most of that coming from lefty presstitutes.

Loving the fascist utopia, until they went and attacked Uncle Joe.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 11, 2018 10:12 AM (oVJmc)

109 be fair, fascists have the best threads.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 10:07 AM (qJtVm)

Of the hundreds of millions of reasons to hate the Nazis, waaaaay down the list, right near the bottom, is: Ruined silver on black as an acceptable uniform color scheme.

Posted by: Vanya at February 11, 2018 10:12 AM (ZmtfW)

110 104: Nazis were no slouches when it came to putting good looking soldiers around their leaders.

The Nork leader sent his pretty-ish sis to the Olympic games to play up a sense of normalcy.

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 10:12 AM (5gaNQ)

111 This has been mentioned in a couple of earlier threads: the McCarthy article at NRO on FISA ("Grassley-Graham Memo Affirms Nunes Memo--Media Yawns") is really worth reading.

http://tinyurl.com/yadvzsqp

Posted by: m at February 11, 2018 10:12 AM (VKsXm)

112 GRANT TAKES VICKSBURG, GRANT TAKES VICKSBURG

Grant, by Chernow

Good stuff

Posted by: Far Post at February 11, 2018 10:12 AM (hiRZh)

113 The MFM going gaga over a genocidal maniac has a long tradition.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 11, 2018 09:49 AM (y7DUB)


Oh come on, that would never happen with a free press!

Posted by: Zombie Walter Duranty at February 11, 2018 10:13 AM (gwPgz)

114 They loved Mussolini,they loved Stalin,they loved Hitler.They loved FDR?
Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2018 10:05 AM (LiyEm)

The weird old crippled guy? Eeeeewwwww!

Posted by: Vanya at February 11, 2018 10:14 AM (ZmtfW)

115 Maybe off-topic, but this court case in Christiansburg, Virginia, has occupied my thoughts for the past week:

https://tinyurl.com/yb2ngfd7

Is this how serial killers get started, if they don't get caught the first time? I would read a book about this case, as long as it didn't enrich the criminal to buy it.

Posted by: Hokiemom at February 11, 2018 10:16 AM (WUYxS)

116 The Nork leader sent his pretty-ish sis to the Olympic games to play up a sense of normalcy.

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 10:12 AM (5gaNQ)


And the "free" press loved them some synchronized cheer-leading by the Nork support team. Too bad they didn't point out that during training, the ones that couldn't stay in sync were shot and left on the training grounds "pour encourager les autres".

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 10:17 AM (gwPgz)

117 The Nork leader sent his pretty-ish sis to the Olympic games to play up a sense of normalcy.
Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 10:12 AM (5gaNQ)

as Anna said, she doesn't look like a normal diplomat, she looks like a predator.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 10:17 AM (Z8j2x)

118 I was surprised by the glowing article about the interior of Hitler's retreat. Life was inside taking pics

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 10:18 AM (5gaNQ)

119 Namely that the major seafaring powers back in the day each had their own maps and used a local/national observatory as the 0 degrees longitude reference.
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 10:09 AM (gwPgz)
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Interesting! Every place had its own Greenwich.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 10:18 AM (qJtVm)

120 I say, Frederick Forsyth was a complete and utter wanker. Instead of trying to assassinate DeGaulle why not just write a dossier about him hiring French prostitutes to urinate on him? Prats like him give British spying a bad name.

Posted by: Christopher Steele at February 11, 2018 10:18 AM (/qEW2)

121 by: Zombie Walter Duranty at February 11, 2018 10:13 AM (gwPgz)

I still get excited when I remember you arriving here.

Agricultural output. You thought that made it okay. I gotta admit, I'd never heard that one before.

Oh, that day was fun. Not for you, but trust me, *I* had a blast.

Posted by: Satan at February 11, 2018 10:18 AM (ZmtfW)

122 the medical adventures of JP Mac


prayers.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 10:19 AM (Z8j2x)

123 116: CNN was very favorable. Normalizing evil is a hobby of theirs...thanks, Jake!

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 10:19 AM (5gaNQ)

124 "Normalizing evil is a hobby of theirs"

Not t quibble...but you misspelled 'goal'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 10:21 AM (EyPfd)

125 Im reading a book. That's all I got before more cawfee.

Morning.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 11, 2018 10:23 AM (70cRb)

126 ("Grassley-Graham Memo Affirms Nunes Memo--Media Yawns") is really worth reading.

http://tinyurl.com/yadvzsqp
Posted by: m at February 11, 2018 10:12 AM (VKsXm)

And the one written two days before was a real corker

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at February 11, 2018 10:23 AM (czkHE)

127 I went to a used book sale yesterday. I am building a library of Western Civ classics and classical literature for my cabin in MN. Picked up The Pathfinder by James Fenimore Cooper and The Federalist Papers.

Posted by: pointsnfigures at February 11, 2018 10:24 AM (ztbQN)

128 You know who's reviews you can't believe-

coffee labels.

This one I'm drinking was described as "Sweet citrus, smooth, chocolate".

In real Coffee Drinking Life:

Sweet Citrus = Acidic ( which, in no way resembles other accept of citrus fruits)

Smooth = well...Smooth. I'll give them that one.

Chocolate = Flavors produced by nearly burning a food item. Next time, your significant other complains that the toast you made is burnt, say-
"No, darling, the toast is infused with hints of Guyanan chocolate."

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2018 10:24 AM (9q7Dl)

129
107 Ok, post-100, and I can't wait till next week's Pet Thread. Woke up this morning and Mia, our 13 y.o. Siamese, had brought us her first ever mouse. On the bed. At Mrs. Red's feet.
To her credit, instead of screaming, her first words were, "Take a picture!"
Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 10:11 AM (uZ8ZO)
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We had one of those ourselves last weekend. WeaselCat v2 left it for us by the cat food/treat cabinet in the kitchen.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 10:24 AM (Sfs6o)

130 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 10:21 AM (EyPfd)

I think you need the word "core" or "fundamental" in there.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 10:25 AM (gwPgz)

131 If England had not been so ascendant on the seas militarily and economically, where would 0 0 have been located? Holland?

But because England dominated, the world adapted to them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 10:26 AM (5Td5d)

132 Hokiemom, it's been on my mind, too. I don't know if you have a Hokie there currently, but I do. I assume you know about the most recent goings-on as well. Not a very reassuring time to be a Hokie mom.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 10:26 AM (kNasr)

133 The Doorbell Rang by Rex Stout on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UvZDRXVBUo

Posted by: Moses Lambert at February 11, 2018 10:26 AM (UKneO)

134 127 I went to a used book sale yesterday. I am building a library of Western Civ classics and classical literature for my cabin in MN. Picked up The Pathfinder by James Fenimore Cooper and The Federalist Papers.

Posted by: pointsnfigures at February 11, 2018 10:24 AM (ztbQN)

May i ask where the cabin is in MN?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 11, 2018 10:27 AM (70cRb)

135 Rex Stout is a great writer. Mystery or otherwise.

I've been thinking of going on a rereading binge but, yeah the kindle versions are way over-priced.

I can't remember the name of the novel, but I love the one where Nero Wolfe and Archie face an adversary so dangerous that-

Nero Wolfe finds it necessary to abandon his beloved brownstone, lose weight!!!, eat normal chow, and disguise himself until the resolution of the affair.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2018 10:27 AM (9q7Dl)

136 But because England dominated, the world adapted to them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 10:26 AM (5Td5d)


Plus, Britannia had the best maps based on extensive Royal Navy observations.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 10:28 AM (gwPgz)

137 accept = aspects

Thx ac!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2018 10:29 AM (9q7Dl)

138 For those with youngsters in school:

My kids have had good luck with Chegg for used textbooks. They always check Amazon, etc but Chegg usually wins.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 10:29 AM (MIKMs)

139 Just sent the pic to OregonMuse. Maybe she'll get a second appearance in the Pet Thread sometime.
I'm so proud.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 10:29 AM (uZ8ZO)

140 Elmore Leonard's "Up In Honey's Room" is set in wartime Detroit, the city at its apex of muscular industrial beauty, everything looking spiffy and running 24/7.

The plot includes some first and second generation Germans who are Nazi sympathisers.

But the city is the star. It's Leonard's paeon to his home town.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 11, 2018 10:30 AM (BeKMO)

141 May i ask where the cabin is in MN?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 11, 2018 10:27 AM (70cRb)
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Don't answer that! Cannibal Bob has a different idea about "hot dish".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 10:30 AM (qJtVm)

142 *flounces off in a huff*

"Well, you can leave in a huff or you can leave in a minute and a huff" - Groucho Marx.

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2018 10:30 AM (9dU1c)

143 139 Just sent the pic to OregonMuse. Maybe she'll get a second appearance in the Pet Thread sometime.
I'm so proud.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 10:29 AM (uZ8ZO)

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 11, 2018 10:30 AM (70cRb)

144 115 Maybe off-topic, but this court case in Christiansburg, Virginia, has occupied my thoughts for the past week:

https://tinyurl.com/yb2ngfd7

Is this how serial killers get started, if they don't get caught the first time? I would read a book about this case, as long as it didn't enrich the criminal to buy it.
Posted by: Hokiemom at February 11, 2018 10:16 AM (WUYxS)

I hadn't heard of this before. Holeeee shit. This guy would've killed again, easily. However I wonder what motivated him to plead no contest in the middle of trial. Usually this sort of person doesn't feel guilt or remorse.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 10:31 AM (NWiLs)

145 141 May i ask where the cabin is in MN?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 11, 2018 10:27 AM (70cRb)
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Don't answer that! Cannibal Bob has a different idea about "hot dish".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 10:30 AM (qJtVm)

LMAO.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 11, 2018 10:31 AM (70cRb)

146 https://tinyurl.com/yafmmfjg

Hitler at Home: this article is about a book describing how Nazis understood image building. His use of the media was pretty cagey

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 10:31 AM (5gaNQ)

147 I'm amazed at how the Porter story has been spun up out of nearly nothing. Am I wrong that the core story is nearly nothing.

My spidey sense says the FBI is involved in the original leak.

Is hitting one wife once and being a dick to both necessarily grounds for denying a security clearance?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 10:31 AM (pV/54)

148 I can't remember the name of the novel, but I love the one where Nero Wolfe and Archie face an adversary so dangerous that-

Nero Wolfe finds it necessary to abandon his beloved brownstone, lose weight!!!, eat normal chow, and disguise himself until the resolution of the affair.


So, he's after Betty AND Veronica !

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2018 10:33 AM (9dU1c)

149 fair, fascists have the best threads.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 10:07 AM (qJtVm)

Of the hundreds of millions of reasons to hate the Nazis, waaaaay down the list, right near the bottom, is: Ruined silver on black as an acceptable uniform color scheme.
Posted by: Vanya at February 11, 2018 10:12 AM (ZmtfW)

Hugo Boss still makes some nice all black clothes and accessories.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 10:34 AM (wWJIH)

150 Is hitting one wife once and being a dick to both necessarily grounds for denying a security clearance?
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Repubs are not allowed to divorce and the wild allegations in a divorce are disqualifying. See Paul/Jeri Ryan. Of course, the same does not apply to Dems.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 10:34 AM (MIKMs)

151 Posted by: Hokiemom at February 11, 2018 10:16 AM (WUYxS)

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Good Lord! What makes that case even more distressing is that he had a young woman who was a willing accomplice.

And I thought our local wife swap murder was disturbing.

Posted by: Blake at February 11, 2018 10:35 AM (WEBkv)

152 147 I'm sure a war of leaks will be unleashed.

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2018 10:35 AM (LiyEm)

153 "I think you need the word "core" or "fundamental" in there."

Yeh...my bad.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 10:35 AM (EyPfd)

154 Anyone interested in old books dealing with things like naval history or early American history or other Americana subjects I would highly recommend the Spring Street Bookstore in Newport, RI.

A good variety of hard to find and out of print books.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 10:35 AM (/tuJf)

155 Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 10:31 AM (pV/54)M

I hate that our side is trying to defend this guy. That is the worse thing about the Left. They have forced us to become like them .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 10:36 AM (wWJIH)

156 book thread!

prayers for JP Mac

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 10:37 AM (hMwEB)

157 150: I have no problem with assault and battery convictions leading to disgrace, but I do have a big problem with people who never pressed charges, crawling out years later and ruining people. A court room and a trip to the police station was the proper avenue.

The rule of law is dead, it's now the rule of allegations of past behavior

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 10:37 AM (5gaNQ)

158 151 Posted by: Hokiemom at February 11, 2018 10:16 AM (WUYxS)

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Good Lord! What makes that case even more distressing is that he had a young woman who was a willing accomplice.

And I thought our local wife swap murder was disturbing.
Posted by: Blake at February 11, 2018 10:35 AM (WEBkv)

Sociopaths can be quite charming and persuasive.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 10:38 AM (NWiLs)

159 I don't feel forced to defend anybody and I have no idea what the true facts are in his case.Only that it was likely a malicious leak to hurt Trump.Expect more.

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2018 10:38 AM (LiyEm)

160 book thread!

prayers for JP Mac

Posted by: votermom certified


Did you decide on a movie (s) ?

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2018 10:39 AM (9dU1c)

161 One of my faves, PG Wodehouse did the same thing as Rex Stout, in that he placed Bertie Wooster and Jeeves in contemporary settings.

I forget the name of the novel but he had one set in the 60s that didn't quite work.

It could've been age at that point and his writing may not have been as sharp-

but the pre-WWII Salad Days antics didn't quite mesh well with the oh-so-relevant earnestness of the drug-infused 60s.

You would think that would've been the old boy's metier, don't you see? Especially considering what he did with characters like Spode.

Eh, maybe I need to revisit that one.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2018 10:39 AM (9q7Dl)

162 Fist of God, by Frederick Forsyth was a great read. Gulf War I. Super gun. Spies. Special Forces. Really bad bad guys. Realty brave good guy.

Posted by: PhilDirt at February 11, 2018 10:39 AM (UylZP)

163 I sometimes wonder what the Original Perry Mason series cases would look like in todays environment.

White Guy

Guilty.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 10:40 AM (EyPfd)

164 don't feel forced to defend anybody and I have no idea what the true facts are in his case.Only that it was likely a malicious leak to hurt Trump.Expect more.
Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2018 10:38 AM (LiyEm)

That he did not have a full security clearance is known because of a leak? I dont think so.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 10:40 AM (wWJIH)

165
Newt turning up the heat on Jeff Sessions.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 10:40 AM (2FqvZ)

166
Very well indeed, other than the fact I'm overeating and the site of the odd dog sized cockroach.
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 11, 2018 09:41 AM (5fRCd)

===

Filipino people like their food served in mass quantities. Which is fine with me, Enjoy!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 11, 2018 10:40 AM (EZebt)

167 I hate that our side is trying to defend this guy. That is the worse thing about the Left. They have forced us to become like them .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 10:36 AM (wWJIH)


I understand your sentiments, but there are two sides to that coin. Your ex-wife accuses of you "anything" and you are immediately on the defensive with almost no ability to respond. No investigation is, or will be, conducted and you are condemned in public (unless you are a Democrat and can argue what the nmeaning of "is" is).

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 10:41 AM (gwPgz)

168 163 I sometimes wonder what the Original Perry Mason series cases would look like in todays environment.

White straight Christian Guy

Guilty.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 10:40 AM (EyPfd)

FTFY

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 10:41 AM (NWiLs)

169 163 Perry Mason would defend some framed up black guy,Asian,gay etc and it would turn out they were framed by the white Christian conservative guy.Every time.

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2018 10:41 AM (LiyEm)

170 ...I would highly recommend the Spring Street Bookstore in Newport, RI.
...

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 10:35 AM (/tuJf)


What I always like about a good book shop is the possibility of that serendipitous find of a book you didn't know existed but now you can't live without. The internet is great for finding a book that you know about but no so much for just browsing.

Abebooks and Amazon will, however, give some feedback that notifies you, "Hey, people that bought this book bought these other ones." I have found that useful sometimes.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 11, 2018 10:42 AM (5Yee7)

171 Ok, back to books. Halfway through Havana Bay by Martin Cruz Smith. Arkady is in Cuba well after the Soviet Union fell and the Cubans now hate the Russians for abandoning them.
Smith's writing gets better and better.
I had just finished the Cuban Affair by Demille, so it was a fascinating read and comparison.
In preparation for traveling to Spain some time ago, I had done some Rosetta Stone preparation and was able to handle rudimentary Spanish. The recent Cuba novels are now pushing me to get up to speed again.
Then maybe I can go see go see how the press idolizes the Castro brothers.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 10:42 AM (uZ8ZO)

172 hokiemom, blake, ...

Wow. Way creepy. and yes, that he so easily found an accomplice is even more disturbing.

The process of elimimnating any sense of morality seems to have made a lot of progress, at least in some circles.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 11, 2018 10:42 AM (SUFnU)

173 I'm just finishing Matt Bracken's latest novel 'Red Cliffs of Zerhoun". He's such a good author.

Does anyone else write about the leftist dystopia and collapse as well as him? I can't stand waiting another two or three years for more Matt Bracken.

Posted by: Obama waving from Martha's Vineyard at February 11, 2018 10:42 AM (TAJj/)

174 Library looks like the inside of a borg cube.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 10:43 AM (aMlLZ)

175 I sometimes wonder what the Original Perry Mason series cases would look like in todays environment.

Perry and Paul Drake would be lovers.

Probably with Lt. Tragg, too.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 11, 2018 10:43 AM (oVJmc)

176 164 Did I say that?

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2018 10:44 AM (LiyEm)

177 Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 11, 2018 10:42 AM (SUFnU)

Morality is just so constraining, don't you know!

Posted by: Beelzebub at February 11, 2018 10:44 AM (gwPgz)

178 Last night my wife and I were watching a long speech he gave at a Trump hotel. She asked at a certain point if he was a fundamentalist. I don't think so, I said. But yeah, he takes a different pov then I do.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 09:08 AM (2FqvZ)


I thought that was a great lecture.

I doubt Peterson is a Christian in the conventional sense, i.e. goes to a church, believes that Christ died to forgive his sins, etc.

But Mrs. Muse and I did enjoy him explain his ideas.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 11, 2018 10:45 AM (w+y4I)

179 I bought a bunch of the "Enchantment of America" books based on a recommendation here and decided I really don't want them. These were published in 1965 and focus on each state. I do not have the complete set, but I'm only missing six. They are all in decent shape. If any of the Morons would like these, I will give them to you. I would rather them go to a good home than get thrown away by the local library.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at February 11, 2018 10:45 AM (THS4q)

180 Sociopaths can be quite charming and persuasive.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 10:38 AM (NWiLs)

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Yeah, but I have to believe the young woman wanted to be persuaded.

Something truly bent inside both of those people.

Posted by: Blake at February 11, 2018 10:45 AM (WEBkv)

181 Re: Life magazine

On the other side of the coin, I have a 1938 issue I found at a yard sale with a pictorial essay about "The Jews of Europe". To call it bittersweet would be an understatement.

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 10:45 AM (sdi6R)

182 176 164 Did I say that?
Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2018 10:44 AM (LiyEm)

Then what do you think was leaked?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 10:45 AM (wWJIH)

183 My current read is How Dogs Love Us by Gregory Berns. I'm only on about page 6 but so far it's good! The author used an MRI on his dog to try and figure out what his pup was thinking.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 10:46 AM (Sfs6o)

184 Of the hundreds of millions of reasons to hate the Nazis, waaaaay down the list, right near the bottom, is: Ruined silver on black as an acceptable uniform color scheme.

Posted by: Vanya at February 11, 2018 10:12 AM (ZmtfW)


Somewhere, Al Davis is smiling.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 11, 2018 10:46 AM (w+y4I)

185 Curse you, book thread writer. I spent $1.98 today buying two Kindle books that you recommended. Think of what I could have accomplished if I wasn't acting in such a profligate manner.

Posted by: Heresolong at February 11, 2018 10:46 AM (K+rrH)

186 >>What I always like about a good book shop is the possibility of that serendipitous find of a book you didn't know existed but now you can't live without. The internet is great for finding a book that you know about but no so much for just browsing.


Exactly. I have a similar feeling about big box bookstores. They're great for getting something popular but not so much for browsing, at least for me.

One of the reasons I love living where I do despite the politics is the history of the area. Every corner you turn has some historical context and local stores that offer books that give even greater detail and context fascinate me.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 10:46 AM (/tuJf)

187
I sometimes wonder what the Original Perry Mason series cases would look like in todays environment.

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I saw some old Ironsides episodes on TV. Suitably diverse assistants but the woman detective wore white gloves with her little suits. The black guy started as a wheelchair pusher but was encouraged to go to school, so I guess that was okay.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 10:46 AM (MIKMs)

188 182 Nothing,forget it.

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2018 10:46 AM (LiyEm)

189 The process of elimimnating any sense of morality seems to have made a lot of progress, at least in some circles.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 11, 2018 10:42 AM (SUFnU)

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Well stated.

Posted by: Blake at February 11, 2018 10:47 AM (WEBkv)

190 I'm reading Bernard Cornwell's Winter King. It's a deeply engrossing re-telling of the Arthur legend. I'll be moving on to the Expanse next, mostly because I loved the second season of the TV show.

I have a new book out, Mercenary Calling. It's got exoplanets, terrorists, and lawyers. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079CQN5Z1

Posted by: Laura Montgomery at February 11, 2018 10:48 AM (IbzI6)

191
The 'false ID using birth certificate of a dead person' trick was also
heavily used by radicals during the 60's-70's. They started closing up
those loopholes, IIRC, when they successfully proved that Weatherman was
using it to give themselves fake IDs that would hold up to casual
scrutiny.

Posted by: Toastrider at February 11, 2018 09:09 AM (49/Y7)

Seemed to work for Barack Obama. But then he came out of that milieu, didn't he?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 10:48 AM (Dbv1R)

192 Bluebell, my Hokie son had already graduated but was living in Blacksburg at the time. He ran for VT while he was a student and would still work out with some of their runners, so he vaguely knew who this kid was. I think VT has had more than its share of scary and deadly events.

Posted by: Hokiemom at February 11, 2018 10:48 AM (WUYxS)

193 "What I always like about a good book shop is the possibility of that serendipitous find of a book you didn't know existed but now you can't live without. "

This !


Reading has been light this week, nothing much memorable - "The Civil War in Pictures" by Fletcher Pratt caught my eye the other day, all illustrated with contemporary engraved pictures from newspapers and magazines. Interesting, anyway.

Thanks, everyone, for all the reading ideas and recommendations above ! If I ever won the lottery an awful lot of it would go to booksellers.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 11, 2018 10:49 AM (SUFnU)

194 73 I'm just finishing Matt Bracken's latest novel 'Red Cliffs of Zerhoun". He's such a good author.

Does anyone else write about the leftist dystopia and collapse as well as him? I can't stand waiting another two or three years for more Matt Bracken.
Posted by: Obama waving from Martha's Vineyard at February 11, 2018 10:42 AM (TAJj/)

Bracken's another writer whose skills have improved over time. He also posts a lot. Check out Western Rifle Shooters, but ignore some of the hard core Joooo haters who comment there.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 10:49 AM (uZ8ZO)

195 Perry and Paul Drake would be lovers.
Probably with Lt. Tragg, too.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 11, 2018 10:43 AM (oVJmc)


And Della Street would be a tatted out lesbian with a shaved head, a lip piercing, and a bad attitude.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 11, 2018 10:49 AM (w+y4I)

196 78,
Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:46 AM (lwiT4)


Thank you.

Posted by: geoffb at February 11, 2018 10:51 AM (zOpu5)

197 I think David Brock is one of those guys who's smart enough to see thru the nonsense of socialism and the grifting of the Left, but-

expected that a writing/media talent on the Right would be as feted and met with riches as one on the Left.

And that is simply not the case-

The Left lavishes wealth and fame and Par-tays on anyone who serves their purposes.

Whereas the Right doesn't have the access to the culture that the Democrats have.

Plus, we as a group being oriented around the individual and improving our own lot don't tend to live for politics and thus tend to be a bit parsimonious in the earthly rewards sector.

PJ O'Rourke could do it, but few can.

So, Brock simply went to where the money is- the Kookoobananas Land of Clintonian Socialist Grifting.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2018 10:52 AM (9q7Dl)

198 Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 10:46 AM (Sfs6o)

That is a very interesting book, I enjoyed it.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 10:53 AM (gwPgz)

199 I saw some old Ironsides episodes on TV....

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 10:46 AM (MIKMs)


I loved that show as a kid. I vaguely remember a show where they went into some detail on how they built the wheelchair lift in this truck for Raymond Burr's character. Ironsides must have been one of the first TV shows with a disabled main character.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 11, 2018 10:54 AM (5Yee7)

200 And Della Street would be a tatted out lesbian with a shaved head, a lip piercing, and a bad attitude.

And bad breath.

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2018 10:54 AM (9dU1c)

201 Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 10:31 AM (NWiLs)

I don't think he felt either guilt or remorse. From what I've read it seems his defense strategy went out the window once his text messages were allowed into evidence.

Posted by: Hokiemom at February 11, 2018 10:54 AM (WUYxS)

202 Ok, back to books. Halfway through Havana Bay by Martin Cruz Smith.
Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 10:42 AM (uZ8ZO)


I should re-read those, but I'm way too lazy and impatient. Once I get towards the payoff of the 'rising action' part, I start reading faster and missing critical things until I get to a new chapter and
- wow that's really untidy and it's a good thing for everyone that it's so cold outside
- guess that was the bad guy, then, also this and that and most of that
- how did we get here from there

I've done it in Gorkiy Park, Polar Star, and Wolves Eat Dogs. They're surprisingly good books, even if you're terrible at book.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 11, 2018 10:55 AM (y87Qq)

203 198 Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 10:46 AM (Sfs6o)

That is a very interesting book, I enjoyed it.
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 10:53 AM (gwPgz)
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Glad to hear it, Hrothgar. I'm pretty sure my little dog is always thinking about dog treats.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 10:56 AM (Sfs6o)

204 And if you do go over to Western Rifle Shooters, for heaven's sake, don't post there. I suspect that would be an instant elevation to the Watch List of your choice.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 10:57 AM (uZ8ZO)

205 The beginnings of a serial killer?

Here in Ga there have been reports of a guy snatching teen girls off the street on the way to school. So far, he's let them all go unharmed. So far.

If this guy isn't caught soon, the thrill of the snatch isn't gonna be enough to satisfy him.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 10:59 AM (r/7B9)

206 "The Civil War in Pictures" by Fletcher Pratt caught my eye the other day, all illustrated with contemporary engraved pictures from newspapers and magazines. Interesting, anyway.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 11, 2018 10:49 AM (SUFnU)


Up-twinkles on that book. Not ground-breaking, but an easy read and Pratt was a decent author that died too young. One interesting thing about Pratt's The Civil War in Pictures is that he notes that all the illustrations are from the Union perspective because the Confederacy did not produce illustrated magazines like the North did.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 11, 2018 11:00 AM (5Yee7)

207 If this guy isn't caught soon, the thrill of the snatch isn't gonna be enough to satisfy him.
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 10:59 AM (r/7B9

Uhh, phrasing?
Ok, self-denounced.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 11:03 AM (uZ8ZO)

208 Hokiemom, then you probably didn't see this.

https://tinyurl.com/yabw93uo

It didn't get much attention, but it's yet another distressing thing. My daughter is hopefully going to graduate a semester early; I'm really hoping for that.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 11:03 AM (kNasr)

209 This is lovely.Tear it down.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/288392/

Posted by: steevy at February 11, 2018 11:03 AM (LiyEm)

210 Huh -- Fletcher Pratt the historian is the same Fletcher Pratt I'm familiar with from The Well of the Unicorn, The Compleat Enchanter and other fantasy novels.

Check out his photo with Christopher Morley and Rex Stout:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fletcher_Pratt

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 11:04 AM (qJtVm)

211
204 And if you do go over to Western Rifle Shooters, for heaven's sake, don't post there. I suspect that would be an instant elevation to the Watch List of your choice.
Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 10:57 AM (uZ8ZO)
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Interesting you mention that. I've often wondered how many lists I might be on as a result of my participation in long range shooting events, and ammo/reloading component online purchases.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 11:05 AM (Sfs6o)

212 Interesting you mention that. I've often wondered how many lists I might be on as a result of my participation in long range shooting events, and ammo/reloading component online purchases.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 11:05 AM (Sfs6o)
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*delete's Weasel's contact info from phone and computer*

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 11:06 AM (kNasr)

213 I think David Brock is one of those guys who's smart enough to see thru the nonsense of socialism and the grifting of the Left, but-

expected that a writing/media talent on the Right would be as feted and met with riches as one on the Left.

And that is simply not the case-

The Left lavishes wealth and fame and Par-tays on anyone who serves their purposes.

Whereas the Right doesn't have the access to the culture that the Democrats have.

So, Brock simply went to where the money is- the Kookoobananas Land of Clintonian Socialist Grifting.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2018 10:52 AM (9q7Dl)

This makes a lot more sense than believing that Brock simply had a political awakening and suddenly turned "left."
But I wouldn't be surprised if the Clinton's or their goons had the "goods" on the gay Brock and simply threatened him.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 11, 2018 11:06 AM (7uYFy)

214 They haven't closed all the fake ID loopholes.

Posted by: Tem Million Illegal Aliens at February 11, 2018 11:07 AM (Ndje9)

215 bluebell - your little four legged pal says hello!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 11:07 AM (Sfs6o)

216 Did you decide on a movie (s) ?
Posted by: JT at February 11, 2018 10:39 AM (9dU1c)

not yet downloaded, maybe The Ritual
and I will start the Berlin something show and see if I want to download the eps

any suggestions?

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 11:08 AM (hMwEB)

217 Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 11:03 AM (uZ8ZO)


Heh. Yeah, I missed that one. You should prolly go ahead and slap your own wrist for catching it though. Bad redbot. Bad redbot.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 11:08 AM (r/7B9)

218 IIRC, the Paramount network goes back to the 90s. IIRC part two, they owned the Star Trek franchise, and thus featured Star Trek spinoff series prominently in their programming.

IIRC part three, I thought they had morphed into the CW.

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2018 11:09 AM (EzdLW)

219 Interesting you mention that. I've often wondered how many lists I might be on as a result of my participation in long range shooting events, and ammo/reloading component online purchases.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 11:05 AM (Sfs6o

Weasel, I wonder if there is some sort of FOIA request to be able to see what's out there. I used to think it was tinfoil hat stuff, but the events of the last few years have made me think otherwise.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 11:09 AM (uZ8ZO)

220 Tell WeaselDog I say hello, and I hope she doesn't want you to take her out much in this monsoon weather.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 11:09 AM (kNasr)

221 Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 11:03 AM (kNasr)

Good Lord! Was he planning a Las Vegas-style killing spree on the Drillfield?

Good luck to your daughter, I hope she is able to graduate early. It's sad that such a beautiful place can be the site of so much horror.

Posted by: Hokiemom at February 11, 2018 11:11 AM (WUYxS)

222 212
*delete's Weasel's contact info from phone and computer*

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 11:06 AM (kNasr)


I saw that.

Posted by: Bob from the NSA at February 11, 2018 11:12 AM (sdi6R)

223 "Does anyone else write about the leftist dystopia and collapse as well as him?"

I'd like my next project to be a cyberpunk novel set in a near future where Leftism won. It's going to be darkly satirical; full of absurdity, delivered dry. For instance, the "Cultural Appropriations Act" that forbids anyone from having a name derived from any other culture than that which their own genes tie them to; this also means satirical, stereotype characters are justified down to the names.

Posted by: Apostate at February 11, 2018 11:12 AM (7d/38)

224 Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 11:06 AM (kNasr)
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Too late!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 11:12 AM (Sfs6o)

225 From Frederick Forsyth to Christopher Steele, oh how MI6's standards have fallen. Waiting for Jake Clapper to lament this.

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2018 11:13 AM (EzdLW)

226 We are on a list just commenting on this site.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 11, 2018 11:13 AM (89T5c)

227 Well, Bob's here. Time for brunch.

*deletes browser history*

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 11:14 AM (uZ8ZO)

228 Who knows, Hokiemom. So many freaky things - the purchase of the old police car and then outfitting it with a special bumper, etc. Can't imagine where he got the money for all this either. Ugh.

My daughter's friends saw him being dragged out of his dorm by the police, but had no idea what was going on.

And of course the school never notified the students that this was going down, nor did they ever notify the parents that it happened. So much for VT Alerts.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 11:15 AM (kNasr)

229 Wow.

This is exactly like some scene out of a male version of "The Handmaid's Tale", but-

it's right here in real reality:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/metoo-fashion-show-

features-pig-faced-men-handcuffed-angel-wing-

models/

(remove extra spaces)


We of the XY persuasion (and the XXs who love us) seriously dodged a bullet, when Hillary! lost.

The Shambling Rotted Zombie of the Never-to-Be Hillary! Presidency still infests our land and culture, but -

can you imagine this nonsense enforced, aided, and abetted from the street all the way up to the highest office in the land?


Just....Yikes!


I suppose there's a fun novel to be written involving all of this...maybe after I finish my current one.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2018 11:16 AM (9q7Dl)

230 The above was Via Insty.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2018 11:16 AM (9q7Dl)

231 I read I Shot the Buddha by Colin Cotteril. Wow. The detectives are Siri Paiboun, a retired national coroner from Vientiane, his wife Deng (who runs a popular noodle shop), and other friends and acquaintances. Gives a fascinating glimpse into life in Laos, with a side trip to Thailand. Lots of sly humor, and a look at Communist society and its disappointments. Also, it becomes apparent that Americans are appreciated, at least in hindsight, and the French hated with a white-hot hatred for their arrogance. Now I definitely want to check out the earlier books in the series, and Cotteril's other writings. A very fine read, and worth reading twice, because of the nuance.

Posted by: Alifa at February 11, 2018 11:17 AM (vcwYs)

232 Weasel, I wonder if there is some sort of FOIA request to be able to see what's out there. I used to think it was tinfoil hat stuff, but the events of the last few years have made me think otherwise.
Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 11:09 AM (uZ8ZO)
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That's a good question. I'm generally not a paranoid conspiracy theory kind of a guy, but I can't help but think it hasn't occurred to anyone else.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 11:20 AM (Sfs6o)

233 "Bob from NSA"

I actually had an interesting meeting with them last year... Serendipitous. I wonder if it's a good place to work. People have told me as much, but they were all people who were working there at the time and surely would have left if they were unhappy.

Posted by: Apostate at February 11, 2018 11:20 AM (7d/38)

234 any suggestions?

Young Frankenstein ?

My Cousin Vinny ?

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2018 11:20 AM (9dU1c)

235 232. Yes.. . File a FOIA request. They totally won't open another file on you for that.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 11:21 AM (fA1SL)

236 Regarding Nero Wolfe show link at #133,

That series is great. Archie is very good.

Cramer is outstanding,

Fritz is a bit different than I see him,

Maury whathisname yells too much (I think) as Wolfe.

Lily Rowan is pretty good.

Pixy says this is too long?

Posted by: Still John at February 11, 2018 11:22 AM (hBCf0)

237 I just keep thinking of that 13 year-old girl sneaking out of the house with her Minions blanket to meet her Prince Charming. What a terrible price to pay.

Posted by: Hokiemom at February 11, 2018 11:23 AM (WUYxS)

238
226 We are on a list just commenting on this site.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 11, 2018 11:13 AM (89T5c)
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Wait - this isn't the Bob Ross painting tribute website?

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 11:23 AM (Sfs6o)

239 We only learned about Hillary's secret server because Sid Vicious got hacked by Guccifer.

Only after a lot of digging did we learn that Sid Vicious may have had a hand in writing the dossier.

What else went on that we don't know about?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 11:26 AM (pV/54)

240 >>>We are on a list just commenting on this site.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory<<<

You mean like room service? Excellent!

Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2018 11:26 AM (bJ0w+)

241 I don't mean to turn this into the Magazine Thread, but I loved Life magazine as a kid. I don't know when my parents started subscribing, but we got it all through my childhood. They threw out a lot of them preparing for a move in 1966. I went through them and kept the ones with articles about the space program in the early 60s. I still have almost all of the issues from about 1966 to 1972 when it ceased publication. I pretty much wore out the older ones I saved.

I usually try to avoid Google links, but they have every issue from 1936-1972 here:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/zktfgab

It's a great way to spend some idle hours, or to avoid housecleaning or whatever.

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 11:27 AM (sdi6R)

242 240. Just the punchline: 'Yes, and Comrade Colonel thought your joke was funny, as well.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 11:28 AM (fA1SL)

243 Picked up a couple of your recommendations. Thanks for the tips.

Posted by: DZouave at February 11, 2018 11:30 AM (9/QQm)

244
Dan Rather lost his set of Thrasonite luggage at the airport, along with what was left of his mind.



Courage.

Posted by: Dan Rat her at February 11, 2018 11:30 AM (EzdLW)

245 >>Interesting you mention that. I've often wondered how many lists I might be on as a result of my participation in long range shooting events, and ammo/reloading component online purchases

I spent much of the last decade traveling to and communicating from spots around the world, often to shitholes including in the Middle East, Asia and other 3rd world garden spots.

I know that I am on a lot of lists including the Federal Bureau of Matters.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 11:30 AM (/tuJf)

246 Even Nunes is asking about the flaccid DOJ when it comes to prosecutions.

Rosenstein will not prosecute his side.

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 11:31 AM (5gaNQ)

247 Another thumbs up for the Nero Wolfe books. "The Doorbell Rang" is a particular favorite and, yes, very timely. I'm currently re-reading some of the Canon that I haven't read in a long time--in my nearly 30-year-old paperbacks back because the Kindle versions are too expensive. I mostly prefer the earlier books (up to about 1950). "Too Many Cooks" is particularly interesting since it dives into the racial climate at a Greenbrier-like resort in 1938. Definitely not PC.

If you are a car person, for pre-decline P.J. O'Rourke, I'd recommend "Driving Like Crazy," a collection of his pieces for Car and Driver and other automotive publications.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at February 11, 2018 11:33 AM (S+f+m)

248 235 232. Yes.. . File a FOIA request. They totally won't open another file on you for that.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 11:21 AM (fA1SL)


I remember an old SNL sketch that went exactly like that. A guy filed a FOIA request, is told "We've looked, and we don't have anything on you." The guy is satisfied and leaves. As soon as he's out the door, "OK, open a file on that guy."

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 11:34 AM (sdi6R)

249 Even Nunes is asking about the flaccid DOJ when it comes to prosecutions.

Rosenstein will not prosecute his side.

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 11:31 AM (5gaNQ)

I am hopeful the IG doesn't end up selling us out. If he comes out with "nothing to see here, move along" we are truly finished.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 11:34 AM (r/7B9)

250 248. Yep. Garrett Morris and Dan Ackroyd. A true classic.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 11:35 AM (fA1SL)

251 Thanks for the book thread, OM, and sorry for going off-topic. Maybe I'm hoping one of the talented authors in the Horde will write about the case.

Posted by: Hokiemom at February 11, 2018 11:35 AM (WUYxS)

252 "If he comes out with "nothing to see here, move along" we are truly finished."

Because of one IG report?

Posted by: Apostate at February 11, 2018 11:37 AM (7d/38)

253 249: The fate of the nation should not hang on Horowitz and whether the Obama appointee is a good guy.

I know there is a lot of Sessions love out there, but we need an AG that will act, not one who will crackle with integrity in the corner

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 11:38 AM (5gaNQ)

254 But I wouldn't be surprised if the Clinton's or their goons had the "goods" on the gay Brock and simply threatened him.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 11, 2018 11:06 AM (7uYFy)


Yes, this is a situation that Sidney Blumenthal would relish.

Speaking of which, how nervous do you think Cock Curious and the Farsi Ferret are now that Sid's name is popping up and he has no reason to not sell them out to protect Czarina Curb Dive?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 11, 2018 11:39 AM (y7DUB)

255 252: No because Sessions handed DOJ to a corrupt subordinate.

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 11:39 AM (5gaNQ)

256 >>I am hopeful the IG doesn't end up selling us out. If he comes out with "nothing to see here, move along" we are truly finished.

He won't.

The only way this was ever going to get to the point of a 2nd special counsel and prosecutions is by slowly informing the public, which has the attention span of a tween girl, of what went on and the drop the bomb on them in the form of the IG report. Public opinion matters. That's part of what Nunes and others are doing when they speak publicly, trying to get people to react and put increasing pressure on this situation.

This is all playing out exactly as planned.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 11:39 AM (/tuJf)

257 Because of one IG report?
Posted by: Apostate at February 11, 2018 11:37 AM (7d/3

Well who the hell else is gonna prosecute these people? I'm serious. Not gonna prosecute themselves and Congress has no power to prosecute anyone.

So who then if not the IG?

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 11:40 AM (r/7B9)

258 Shouldn't you people be reading?!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 11:41 AM (qJtVm)

259 >>So who then if not the IG?

Who is trying to prosecute Trump?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 11:41 AM (/tuJf)

260 "Because of one IG report?
Posted by: Apostate at February 11, 2018 11:37 AM (7d/3

Well who the hell else is gonna prosecute these people? I'm serious. Not gonna prosecute themselves and Congress has no power to prosecute anyone.

So who then if not the IG?
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 11:40 AM (r/7B9)"

Um, IG's don't prosecute. They investigate.

Posted by: Apostate at February 11, 2018 11:42 AM (7d/38)

261 256: I don't believe that. All the speaking out about other Obama scandals yielded shit because there were no prosecutions. Rosenstein will not appoint another Special Counsel. No prosecutions, presumption of no crime. Sessions will not do it either...poor good old boy won't be seen as political.

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 11:43 AM (5gaNQ)

262 258 Shouldn't you people be reading?!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 11:41 AM (qJtVm)


I'm reading the thread. Doesn't that count?

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 11:43 AM (sdi6R)

263 He checked the loaded cylinder on his .357 magnum one last time, cocked the revolver and placed it in his lap.

"Where are my eggs and bacon, wench?" he yelled in the direction of the kitchenette.

Today was about to get busy.


Posted by: Fritz at February 11, 2018 11:43 AM (bJ0w+)

264 Um, IG's don't prosecute. They investigate.
Posted by: Apostate at February 11, 2018 11:42 AM (7d/3

So we're gonna play this game. Ok.

If the IG doesn't raise hell and "force" someone in the Justice dept then who will?

My comment was if "nothing to see here move along".

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 11:44 AM (r/7B9)

265 Shouldn't you people be reading?!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes


Did you decide on a car ?

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2018 11:44 AM (9dU1c)

266 262 258 Shouldn't you people be reading?!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 11:41 AM (qJtVm)

I'm reading the thread. Doesn't that count?
Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 11:43 AM (sdi6R)

And I'm reading me reading you about you reading the thread when I should be reading my books!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 11:45 AM (qJtVm)

267 Did you decide on a car ?
Posted by: JT at February 11, 2018 11:44 AM (9dU1c)
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My mom got hers repaired to her satisfaction so now I'm going to keep mine a while longer.

Car drama averted. For the nonce.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 11:46 AM (qJtVm)

268 Here are a couple of shelves of lurker norrin radd's library
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Who the fuck gave you permission to read?

Posted by: Galactus at February 11, 2018 11:47 AM (XQvuQ)

269 I'm reading a book about reading a book about me reading a book about reading a book about me reading.

...

HALP! I'm stuck in a Twilight Zone episode!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2018 11:47 AM (9q7Dl)

270 Car drama averted. For the nonce.


OK. Carry on.

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2018 11:47 AM (9dU1c)

271 >>I don't believe that. All the speaking out about other Obama scandals yielded shit because there were no prosecutions. Rosenstein will not appoint another Special Counsel. No prosecutions, presumption of no crime. Sessions will not do it either...poor good old boy won't be seen as political

Yea, it truly is shocking that the people committing the crimes didn't investigate themselves.

Do you know who was the AG during the entirety of Obama's reign?

Don't be so sure that Rosenstein is corrupt or won't appoint a second inspector general. The pressure from Congress has been steadily building since July when they sent a letter asking for one.

So far, those predicting nothing would happen or this investigation would go nowhere have been wrong at every turn. Might be worth watching what happens instead of insisting nothing further will happen because a lot already has.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 11:47 AM (/tuJf)

272 Yep, should be reading. Gonna go finish Treasure Island. See you morons in the food thread later.

Posted by: April at February 11, 2018 11:49 AM (e8PP1)

273 JTB, if you're still here...Elizabeth Wayland Barber has written

"Women's Work: The First 20,000 Years" and "The Mummies of Urumchi", both about the history of textiles. They're very good, and both still available.

Posted by: Lirio100 at February 11, 2018 11:49 AM (JK7Jw)

274 Just finished Ready Player One. Lotsa fun, easy read & the plot moves right along, satisfying ending.

Just barely Sci-Fi, though.

Posted by: West at February 11, 2018 11:50 AM (2835Q)

275 Nobody ever writes about The Daddies of Urumchi.

Posted by: JT at February 11, 2018 11:50 AM (9dU1c)

276 241 I don't mean to turn this into the Magazine Thread, but I loved Life magazine as a kid...

I usually try to avoid Google links, but they have every issue from 1936-1972 here:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/zktfgab

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 11:27 AM (sdi6R)


Thanks for the link. And you can't go OT on the book thread by talking about magazines, particularly since I was the one who introduced subject begin with. So you're just commenting on bona fide thread content.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 11, 2018 11:51 AM (w+y4I)

277 No because Sessions handed DOJ to a corrupt subordinate.
Posted by: CN


Yes.

Just exactly WHY is Jeff Sessions Attorney General?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 11, 2018 11:51 AM (S6Pax)

278 I just finished PJ O'Rourke's "Eat the Rich",

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I read his latest, How the Hell Did This Happen? about the 2016 election. It's not really a book, more a collection of essays written as events happened. His hatred of PDT is evident throughout, see; e.g., the title, yet there is no explanation of why he is so terrible, just that he's a loudmouth vulgarian. He says Hillz is wrong but within normal parameters. There is no explanation of these marvelous parameters that are flexible enough to encompas Hillz' incompetence, corruption, and criminality but exclude loudmouth Trump.

I always liked O'Rourke but if he wants me back he going to have to do some serious self-flagellation. For now, he's clearly joined Team Evil.

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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 11:53 AM (+y/Ru)

279 Just exactly WHY is Jeff Sessions Attorney General?
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 11, 2018 11:51 AM (S6Pax)

To combat REEFER MADNESS ELEVENTY! duh

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 11:53 AM (r/7B9)

280 i am more curious at this point about Stefanik, and why she surprised everyone in the congressional hearing with her questions.. and why she being so young and New was even on the intelligence committee?

anyone else find that rather odd?

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 11:54 AM (Z8j2x)

281 Oh, yeah, just got Jordan Peterson's new book, "12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos"

1st 20 pages have been insightful, and pretty damn funny at the same time. He touches tangentially some of the topics in Nasseem Nicholas Taleb's "Black Swan". I'm hooked.

Posted by: West at February 11, 2018 11:54 AM (2835Q)

282 So we're gonna play this game. Ok.
If the IG doesn't raise hell and "force" someone in the Justice dept then who will?

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 11:44 AM (r/7B9)


Wouldn't that be Jeff "Sleepy" Sessions, the Somnolent One?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 11, 2018 11:54 AM (w+y4I)

283 You could write a DOJ OIG report about the many violations of DOJ/OIG protocols during the Hillary investigation with what's already in the public domain. Many of the tidbits we've been feeding on -- like select Stzrok/Page texts -- have been coming from the OIG.

Now imagine what you could find and the dots you can connect if you had the OIG's access and resources.

Things like the texts are critical evidence, as they'll provide damning admissions from the perps themselves.

Comey will swing for this. And he's a key character as the public already knows him. And everyone gets the self-serving dirty cop meme.

How much further will it go? Who's bringing the popcorn

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 11:55 AM (pV/54)

284 That's part of what Nunes and others are doing when they speak publicly, trying to get people to react and put increasing pressure on this situation.

This is all playing out exactly as planned.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 11:39 AM


A little earlier today he confirmed the Winer op-ed re Sid Vicious. Applauded people coming out and telling their story.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 11:55 AM (2FqvZ)

285 Anonosaurus Wrecks,

who knows perhaps he Will do an andrew mc carthy.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 11:55 AM (Z8j2x)

286 To combat REEFER MADNESS ELEVENTY! duh
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 11:53 AM (r/7B9)

One can handle only so much spasmodic ragtime piano playing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at February 11, 2018 11:55 AM (IMacf)

287 Ok. I'm done with the feebs. Gonna stop before I piss off Vic for not being bookish.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 11:55 AM (r/7B9)

288 279 Just exactly WHY is Jeff Sessions Attorney General?
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 11, 2018 11:51 AM (S6Pax)

To combat REEFER MADNESS ELEVENTY! duh
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 11:53 AM (r/7B9)

NSA domestic surveillance has detected a 14.3% uptick in wild ragtime piano playing. The crisis must be addressed urgently.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 11:56 AM (NWiLs)

289 jack straw , do you have any thoughts on the Stefanik entrance on the hearings and her questions?

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 11:56 AM (Z8j2x)

290
All the books at the Brazilian National Library are the many, many volumes of "Women I Have Known" by Paolo.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 11:58 AM (kjVQQ)

291 One more Nero Wolfe thought. George LeS is right about the Zeck trilogy. The first book (And Be a Villian) is pretty good, but the other two (The Second Confession and In the Best Families) are, well, annoying. I'd recommend reading them only if you're determined to read the entire Canon.

In the Best Families is the novel where Wolfe leaves his house, disappears without word to Archie, loses weight, etc. so it has that curiosity going for it. But IMO, that's not worth the price of reading it.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at February 11, 2018 11:58 AM (S+f+m)

292 >>Wouldn't that be Jeff "Sleepy" Sessions, the Somnolent One?

You mean the guy who reopened the investigation into the Clinton Foundation and Uranium One and who launched in July a new group within the FBI to go after leaks with an initial 27 current investigations and almost nobody noticed?

And now we are seeing indictments from Uranium One and the Australian diplomat who supposedly went to the FBI after hearing from George Papadopoulus in London tell him that Trump was colluding with Russians is being investigated by his own government and the FBI for corruption with the Clintons. Quite a coincidence.

Not bad for a sleeping guy.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 11:58 AM (/tuJf)

293 Do you know who was the AG during the entirety of Obama's reign?

Holder then Lynch

We had show trials on Benghazi and the IRS, even on the Clinton server...no prosecutions.

I have no confidence in Rosenstein, Mueller/Comey crony who investigated the Uranium One mess. So far we have investigations that work like Jarndyce and Jarndyce and keep the main players in power, a few early retirements and Comey's firing not withstanding

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 11:59 AM (5gaNQ)

294 John Gavin (Psycho, Spartacus; served as ambassador to Mexico under Reagan) has passed at age 86.

Posted by: Bert G aka Country Singer at February 11, 2018 11:59 AM (yzxic)

295
(woodchipper, frozen body, etc)
So the perfect crime failed and the husband was convicted.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 09:20 AM


If this is the same case I'm thinking of, his big mistake was disposing of his chain-saw with scratched-out serial number in the same river.

1) just scratching out the numbers doesn't make them unrecoverable

2) he had previously mailed-in the warranty card.

Posted by: Chuck C at February 11, 2018 12:00 PM (0V2ki)

296 >>A little earlier today he confirmed the Winer op-ed re Sid Vicious. Applauded people coming out and telling their story

I heard. Amazing what happens when a real investigation starts and even the people in DC can see the wind has changed.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 12:00 PM (/tuJf)

297 Just exactly WHY is Jeff Sessions Attorney General?

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It may be that he thinks that because the resistance is so devoted to the Beast that it would be impossible for any jury to convict her or her major minion (much as it was impossible to convict OJ) and that such acquittal would destroy what's left of respect for the law in this country. It is, indeed, a conundrum without obvious solution.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 12:01 PM (+y/Ru)

298 Nood

Posted by: Thanatopsis at February 11, 2018 12:01 PM (9dWxJ)

299 "So we're gonna play this game. Ok."

What, being correct? Not being civically ignorant and misunderstanding the differences between special counsels, inspectors general, and attorneys general?

"If the IG doesn't raise hell and "force" someone in the Justice dept then who will?"

IGs raised hell in the Obama administration and were completely ignored; from month 1 when he interfered in the Kilpatrick affair. They can't "force" anything. It's a watchdog function and nothing else.

And declaring the End of All because a given watchdog doesn't bark as loud as you want is silly.

Tangent: The radicals who have taken over so much of the country and wrecked all these institutions started in the 60s with little more than their ideals and some Soviet seed money. Their power now is the fruit of generations of labor, sacrifice, and ruthlessness.

When I see people on the Right bemoaning every measly setback, and proclaiming doom and gloom and their complete disappointment and lack of confidence, all the fucking time, it moves to convince me that the Right will lose. Because all those tough-minded veterans and clear-thinking wonks and believers apparently don't have the intestinal fortitude necessary for this kind of struggle. They'll get tired and roll over, and just complain about it, because an IG report wasn't angry enough.

FFS, Donald friggin' Trump is president, and is busy enacting (to my surprise and delight) the most conservative federal policies since the 80s. But if a certain IG report doesn't lead direction to prosecutions; well, it was good run America, but time to throw in the towel!

I'm out. I don't come to the book thread for this "pointing out I'm factually wrong implies you're a fool" crap. "Game." Pfft.

Posted by: Apostate at February 11, 2018 12:01 PM (7d/38)

300 Lynch's BFF from college is Holder's wife. Most of the key figures in Obama's inner circle would be comfortable hanging out together at a friendly backyard fried chicken barbecue

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 12:02 PM (pV/54)

301
Shouldn't you people be reading?!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

I'm reading the thread. Doesn't that count?
Posted by: rickl

And I'm reading me reading you about you reading the thread when I should be reading my books!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ette


I'm waiting for your memos summarizing this thread to be released.

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2018 12:02 PM (EzdLW)

302 Yea, it truly is shocking that the people committing the crimes didn't investigate themselves.

Do you know who was the AG during the entirety of Obama's reign?

Don't be so sure that Rosenstein is corrupt or won't appoint a second inspector general. The pressure from Congress has been steadily building since July when they sent a letter asking for one.

So far, those predicting nothing would happen or this investigation would go nowhere have been wrong at every turn. Might be worth watching what happens instead of insisting nothing further will happen because a lot already has.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 11:47 AM (/tuJf)

Your posts have been enlightened and reassuring and your knowledge and instincts have been correct at every turn, but I still think that the best we can hope for is that Mueller's investigation into Trump/ Russia quietly ends and Trump is totally cleared--which would appear to make the president stronger.
Obama and his crew will never be held to account for their crimes; yes, they'll be a cloud of suspicion over his whole gang but nothing will ever come of it in the legal sense and the media will go on portraying our "historical first" president as a man of impeccable character. It will be largely the same with Hillary--although they would destroy her if it came down to her or Obama, but it won't.
Some reputations will be sullied, some low-level henchmen might take a fall and there could be a suicide or two, but Obama will not to be harmed.
As I said, the best outcome will be when Mueller ends his investigation and Trump is cleared--but even then, no one will apologize for calling him Putin's stooge, puppet, henchman or cock-holster for over a year.....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 11, 2018 12:02 PM (7uYFy)

303 CN, in fairness Republicans had zip power, and were routinely thwarted. Not to say they were not wimps, . ok wimps without power and indicating to us, they didn't mind staying there. I am hoping with Trump they decide the country is more important than their snouts in the trough with No responsibility.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:02 PM (Z8j2x)

304 Do you know who was the AG during the entirety of Obama's reign?

Holder then Lynch

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First you grab and hold justice then you lynch it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 12:03 PM (+y/Ru)

305 >>We had show trials on Benghazi and the IRS, even on the Clinton server...no prosecutions.

No. We had ZERO trials.

Congress does not do trials. They can only investigate. That is the entire point, it is showing the corruption at the FBI and DOJ that precluded actual prosecutions.

You don't have to have confidence, just watch what happens. If you don't have any confidence you also don't have any evidence of who is and who isn't corrupt and that's exactly why there are comprehensive investigations going on.

Just last night it became aware that Bill Priestap, a guy right at the heart of this process, might in fact be cooperating with the investigators. Just keep an open mind and enjoy the carnage until the investigations are concluded. We are only in the early innings of a long game.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 12:04 PM (/tuJf)

306 Lynch's BFF from college is Holder's wife. Most of the key figures in Obama's inner circle would be comfortable hanging out together at a friendly backyard fried chicken barbecue

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FRIED CHICKEN?!!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 12:04 PM (+y/Ru)

307 298 Nood
Posted by: Thanatopsis at February 11, 2018 12:01 PM (9dWxJ)

of course.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:05 PM (Z8j2x)

308 Bill Priestap, Jack, i do find it interesting He came over from NY, the land of weiners computer..

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:06 PM (Z8j2x)

309 Anonosaurus Wrecks and Judge contreras from Holders old law firm.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:06 PM (Z8j2x)

310 Posted by: Apostate at February 11, 2018 12:01 PM

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Very well said, Apostate, but I hope your comment didn't get willowed by the nood.

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2018 12:07 PM (EzdLW)

311
Last!

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 11, 2018 12:08 PM (2FqvZ)

312 In the Best Families is the novel where Wolfe leaves his house, disappears without word to Archie, loses weight, etc. so it has that curiosity going for it. But IMO, that's not worth the price of reading it.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at February 11, 2018 11:58 AM (S+f+m)


We'll have to agree to disagree on that.

At one point, I'd read every Nero Wolfe book in print and that's the one that sticks with me the most.

Forcing Wolfe out of his elegant womb and into the world he keeps away was brilliantly done and fun IMHO.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 11, 2018 12:09 PM (9q7Dl)

313 the game cannot be that long. we have media and midtrerms. They really need to keep the wind at their back

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:09 PM (Z8j2x)

314 The OIG report should at a minimum expose many lies and falsehoods, even without a prosecution. It'll knock the foundation out of the Mueller investigation, and force Mueller to end it with a de facto exoneration.

More importantly, Trump will shit on MSM, and name names. MSM will be have no credibility with 75% of the electorate. They'll be done. Finito.

And we'll get a second special prosecutor, who can indict and prosecute.

All before November

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 12:09 PM (pV/54)

315 This is an election year, and people are whining about "no trials, I want trials". Trials? The left (the MSM / Deep State / Dems ) are already in campaign mode. If Dems win in November, Trump is gone, and the swamp draining gets kiboshed.

Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2018 12:11 PM (EzdLW)

316 >>Bill Priestap, Jack, i do find it interesting He came over from NY, the land of weiners computer..

Comey used him as an excuse during his testimony before Congress as to why the FBI waited almost 9 months to tell Congress that they were investigating Trump. The early suspicion was of course that he was in on it.

Maybe. But maybe he was being used as a fall guy and in any case it now appears he may be cooperating with investigators.

Keeping the pressure on DC to do the right thing is good but constantly insisting nothing will ever happen and everyone is corrupt is just giving energy to the other side and helping it become a self-affirming prophecy.

Be angry and the people who committed the crimes, support the people who are uncovering them at least until they prove they won't keep going and insist on prosecutions. This is our government and we can influence things. The left learned that lesson a long time ago.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 12:11 PM (/tuJf)

317 The OIG report should at a minimum expose many lies and falsehoods, even without a prosecution. It'll knock the foundation out of the Mueller investigation, and force Mueller to end it with a de facto exoneration.

More importantly, Trump will shit on MSM, and name names. MSM will be have no credibility with 75% of the electorate. They'll be done. Finito.

And we'll get a second special prosecutor, who can indict and prosecute.

All before November
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 12:09 PM (pV/54)

Trump will get cleared and name names, but we'll get nothing after that. There will be no more investigations--the MSM will forward the meme that the country is "tired of investigations"--because the GOPe is chicken shit and only cares about the midterms. So nothing.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 11, 2018 12:13 PM (7uYFy)

318 i am not angry at Priestap i am holding out an opinion as i am with sessions. I find his and wifes history rather interesting though. I am hoping someone perhaps Priestap is on our countries recovery team.

who knows though.

Posted by: willow at February 11, 2018 12:14 PM (Z8j2x)

319 This is an election year, and people are whining about "no trials, I want trials". Trials? The left (the MSM / Deep State / Dems ) are already in campaign mode. If Dems win in November, Trump is gone, and the swamp draining gets kiboshed.
Posted by: Hands at February 11, 2018 12:11 PM (EzdLW)

If the Democrats win, they THINK they'll get rid of Trump.
That's when the fun will really begin.....

Posted by: JoeF. at February 11, 2018 12:15 PM (7uYFy)

320 >>Trump will get cleared and name names, but we'll get nothing after that. There will be no more investigations--the MSM will forward the meme that the country is "tired of investigations"--because the GOPe is chicken shit and only cares about the midterms. So nothing.

Then why has Peter Strzok hired one of the most expensive and politically connected lawyers in DC?

Guys who aren't facing prosecution don't hire trial lawyers.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 12:15 PM (/tuJf)

321 Trump won't stop until he's burned MSM to the ground. More specifically he'll take a flamethrower to individual talking heads.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 11, 2018 12:15 PM (pV/54)

322 273 ... Lirio, Thanks for the references to the Elizabeth Barber books. They sound just like the aspects of textile history that I find interesting.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 12:19 PM (V+03K)

323
Then why has Peter Strzok hired one of the most expensive and politically connected lawyers in DC?

Guys who aren't facing prosecution don't hire trial lawyers.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 12:15 PM (/tuJf)

I'll defer to you. But I'm not optimistic.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 11, 2018 12:21 PM (7uYFy)

324 13 ... Dammit to hell, All Hail Eris! Don't mention a book like "Mapping Naval Warfare" unless you are going to give us a copy. Mrs. JTB and I are both history and map nerds. That title goes on the 'to be bought when the price comes down' list.

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. It sounds seriously interesting.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 12:28 PM (V+03K)

325 >>I'll defer to you. But I'm not optimistic.

I'm neutral to be honest. But it's getting increasingly hard to see how this doesn't include numerous prosecutions.

We are now talking about the involvement of cabinet level officials as more layers keep getting pulled back. That's why I support letting this investigation run it's course.

And it will also have the benefit of throwing the left into a bad light for at least the remainder of 2018 as more and more is exposed and they have to start playing serious defense.

I've always said my first goal was taking back the government and cutting out the cancer and prosecutions were the cherry on top. It's starting to look like we may get both.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2018 12:28 PM (/tuJf)

326 Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 12:28 PM (V+03K)

Get it from the library first!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 12:41 PM (qJtVm)

327 Picked up Birth of the Modern by Paul Johbson based on book thread recommendations. And A History of the Wife by Marilyn Yalom.

Read War of the Worlds: Global Dispatches. Interesting concept in having today's good SF writers cover H.G. Wells' War of the World in the voice of an existing writer in 1900. Uneven as some short stories are good, and Henry James as a writer was too much like Henry James. I dislike the writings of Henry James.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 12:51 PM (hyuyC)

328 Birth of the Modern by Paul Johnson.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 12:52 PM (hyuyC)

329 305 show trials , blustery Congressional hearings, potayto potahto in DC.
And that's what we're getting now. A few low level indictments, and the dems skate. Sessions will be satisfied with Lambert, Hillary et al will carry on as before.
Rosenstein will remain as de facto AG

Posted by: CN at February 11, 2018 01:07 PM (W4xXw)

330 328 Birth of the Modern by Paul Johnson.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 12:52 PM (hyuyC)

Intellectuals is a great book of his too. No pedestal is too high for Johnson.

I am really enjoying this book The Taking of K-129 about the Glomar Explorer. Very well-written.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 01:14 PM (qJtVm)

331 A couple of AoSHQ posters have very complete libraries on that topic.

They are [redacted by NSA Bob] and [redacted by NSA Bob].

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 01:22 PM (hyuyC)

332 Re-reading Jane Austen this week. Because sometimes you just need to take a breather. May be time for another trip to the Shire as well. Also reading about dogs, particularly how to stop one little mutt from jumping on people. Wish me luck.

Posted by: Miss Sippi at February 11, 2018 01:46 PM (pqV+D)

333 If you are pining for a little Clinton nostalgia, you could check out Flowers v. Carville. The key weakness of Ms Flowers' case was that the statute of limitations had expired.

What did someone say sometinhg recently about being "too lazy to get off their asses"?

https://tinyurl.com/y9e6xxxq

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at February 11, 2018 01:52 PM (EMi53)

334 14 Still working my way through Jordan Peterson's book.

Not totally comfortable with some of his take on biblical writings.
Bu for the most part, what he writes, makes sense.
__________
FB friend who is an Orthodox priest posted that he was reading this, huge argument ensued as to whether Peterson is heretical (of course he is, but he doesn't claim to be Orthodox) and whether priests should read him, etc. Crazy. Priest politely asserted his right to read anything he wanted to and noted that reading doesn't equal agreeing.

Posted by: Miss Sippi at February 11, 2018 01:52 PM (pqV+D)

335 Anyone else finding this going on in their reading habits?



Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 09:11 AM (V+03K)
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Nope. Just the opposite. The older I get, all I want is beach reads. Too dumb to care.

The one exception are Christian books. Right now I am working my way through "His Last Words" by Kim Erickson. It's a study on what Jesus taught and prayed in His final hours. John 13 - 17. It's really good.

But when I read for pleasure, I want Virgil Flowers-type stuff. Just for fun.
Posted by: grammie winger - almost home at February 11, 2018 09:22 AM (lwiT4)

Amen! I feel like such a slug on this thread. Y'all read history, bios, wars and weapons. I'm with grammie. I read to escape the "real" world! (And I just finished the latest Virgil Flowers!) I'm also big on devotionals and inspirationals. grammie, you might like The Book of Mysteries, by Jonathan Cahn. He's a Messianic Jew and this book is best as a type of devotional -- one page at a time. The tie-ins with Judaism to the things we do in Christianity are startling. Sometimes it takes a day just to let the subject he covers "sink in."

Posted by: SandyCheeks at February 11, 2018 02:25 PM (ihzOe)

336 Hillary and Obama will not be prosecuted, unless someone's got time-stamped videotape of them confessing to strangling a transgender Muslim immigrant.

More to the point, that's a good thing. We absolutely don't want a political system in which every change of party means all the previous office-holders go to jail. Because that simply means they will do anything in order to not leave office. See the history of the Roman Republic for what happens then.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 11, 2018 02:34 PM (pZakj)

337 Okay, confession time -- I'm actually reading DPRK News Service Twitter parody. My favorite so far is a photo of acerbic senior advisor Stephen Miller with the caption "Internationally renowned horror author H.P. Lovecraft is subjected to savage interview on U.S. television news channel CNN, concerning Donald Trump and alleged plagiarism of forbidden text Necronomicon."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 02:36 PM (qJtVm)

338 be fair, fascists have the best threads.

Wasn't Hugo Boss the designer behind the unis Hitler and the boys wore?

Posted by: SandyCheeks at February 11, 2018 02:44 PM (ihzOe)

339 Wasn't Hugo Boss the designer behind the unis Hitler and the boys wore?
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Yes. Behind every great fascist dictator there stands a great designer.

I thought the Italian uniforms were full of spiffulously fierce flairocity too but I don't think there was a big name associated with them.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 11, 2018 03:00 PM (qJtVm)

340 337 it's a great twitter feed

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 04:29 PM (hMwEB)

341 Weasel and grammy winger=

Yes some really good deals on Amazon for used textbooks- just be careful you are not buying an international version that is in another language besides English (unless you want it in Spanish or German)

19
Does anyone else buy used textbooks on Amazon? I

asked the same question recently regarding used books in general, and

lots of people said they do, but you can get great deals on used

textbooks. I avoid the social sciences (naturally) but for orher topics

they can be very useful. Like botany or electrical circuits or human

anatomy (pictures!)



Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:02 AM (Sfs6o)
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My daughter has a Master's degree in Nursing. She bought almost all her textbooks online through Amazon. Saved a ton of money.

Posted by: Charlotte at February 11, 2018 04:42 PM (sfBtM)

342 In the Best Families is just bad.

1. Archie just isn't enough to keep my interest. He's a means to meet Nero. But the plot, inherently entails that, for about half the book, it's all Goodwin, all the time, with no Wolfe. Note that, when Doyle did this, it wasn't by emphasizing Watson, but the moors themselves, which could hold your interest.

2. The bit about Nero and Lily is just beyond belief. I think it was put in to see just how far Stout could push it. Well, it went right over the cliff.

3. The denouement is not believable to anyone who knows Wolfe. Far to violently active a role for a man who quails at riding in a car or going outside in a mist. No one like that, having sat on his ass for decades, eating and drinking beer, could have pulled it off.

4. The final plan isn't very smart. It was luck that it worked out as Wolfe hoped. What if the guy (can't remember his name) just froze in panic?

The whole thing is like reading a novel in which Jeeves is baffled, but Bertie understands all. Or Holmes can't tell one mud stain, or one tobacco ash, from another. Give me a break.

Posted by: George LeS at February 11, 2018 06:15 PM (+TcCF)

343 Probably too late but yes, we did an FOIA request to look at DNR's file on my husband.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 11, 2018 08:37 PM (Lqy/e)

344 Hi

Posted by: IanDeal at February 11, 2018 09:42 PM (qcIL3)

345 Thanks to Oregon Muse for the book plug and Voter Mom for the prayer requests.

My lasst screening showed me cancer free.

(A PSA test is the only test I ever wanted to flunk.)

Especially thanks to all who picked up one of my books. Awesome response. May bacon rain down upon you!

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Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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