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GAINZZZ: We Should All Emulate The Immaculately Healthy TRUMP And Make Serum Cholesterol Our Crying Little Bitch

I have to thank Commenter (I forget who) for recommending the Greyskull LP workout plan. If anyone cares, it's described in a video review here. (He also has a website with a text review but people are saying they're getting malicious site warnings there. But the YouTube review should be safe.)

I know the name might seem dumb but apparently it was started at the Greyskull Barbell Club, so there you go. Plus I think the name is pretty awesome.

I moved off the 5x5 program. I was miserable and making little gains. I listened to this podcast with Rippetoe, and Rippetoe said that for trainees over 40 years old, the weight isn't a major problem, but higher volumes of weightlifting can be a big problem.

I'm only 29 -- well, almost 29 -- as most of you know. However, I lift at a 45 year old level. I'm an Advanced Lifter.

So I switched off 5x5 -- 75 heavy squats per week was just not something I could handle. 45 per week, I seem to be handling.

Pretty much since I went to the Rippetoe 3x5 program, with the Greyskull modification of doing As Many Reps as Possible for the last set.

I'm not really doing Greyskull's program -- I'm doing the Rippetoe program with barbell rows replacing power cleans -- but I really do love the AMRAP finish on each set.

That's the big gadget in Greyskull -- the last set isn't set at five reps, but As Many Reps As Possible, or AMRAP. Actually, I think of it as AMGRAP, As Many Good Reps as Possible, because shit reps aren't reps and can get you hurt.

This is good for the trainee's psychology. It used to really bother me when I was supposed to go up in weight, but then failed at that weight. The Greyskull rule is that you do AMGRAP in your last set, and if and only if you get to seven or more, you add weight your next session, and if you don't get seven or more, you don't add more weight next session -- you just stay at the same weight and try to increase the reps on the last set.

So you go in to your next session knowing whether you can/should add weight -- or not. As you don't add weight when you failed to get seven or more reps on the last set of your last session, you fail at hitting your planned weight less.

One can say, "But your only not failing because you're not trying to add that extra weight," which is true, however: There's not a lot to be gained at trying a weight you'll fail at -- I think the downsides of frustration and chances of injury are larger than the upsides of pushing yourself at a weight you're maybe not ready for quite yet -- and the Greyskull system tells you, with fair accuracy, whether you will hit that next increase in weight at your next session or not.

Also, even when you don't add weight, you're still going for a personal record in reps at that weight. If your last session you only got five reps on the last set at a given weight, sure, in the next session, you're still at that same weight, but now you're trying to up the final set reps to seven or more.

It's still some new goal to shoot for, even if it is at the same weight as last time. It still feels like you're making progress, even if you haven't upped the weight since last time.

And you're not really at a total stall, even if you're at the same weight, if you're at least increasing volume with that weight. You're still upping one parameter.

They guy has a book about it on Amazon, and I might buy it (it's called Greyskull LP by Johnny Villain, I think), despite it being $30. I figure, eh, it feels like a little widget that's worth $30 of my money. Even though I got the gist of it from people's descriptions, meh, maybe i'll shoot him some cash.

Oh, one more thing I've been doing for a few weeks -- finishing most sessions with a farmer's walk. It builds traps and improves posture by working the muscles of the upper back, as your back muscles can then hold you straighter without you having to order them to tighten up, as well as building forearms and biceps -- and core, and glutes, and calves.

Plus it's a semi-cardio exercise.

I don't like cardio much but I like the farmer's walk's pseudo-cardio. Not full-on cardio, but you will get out of breath carrying heavy weight for hundred yards or so.

I think that's the sort of thing anyone can do, even as a pure novice, just starting out with some small amount of weight -- ten or twelve pounds in each hand, maybe, and then building up from there.

For anyone who looks down on walking as too easy (even though it's not easy, if you're walking at a racing pace), walking with weight might butch it up enough to make you feel like it's real exercise. I think fast walking is real exercise anyway, but certainly, walking around with 50 or 60 pounds in each hand is definitely real exercise. (Real strongmen do this with maybe 180 pounds or more in each hand.)

So: What are yo GAINNZZZZ?

In Trump's America, we must all make GAINZZZ, so that we will prove ourselves Worthy in the Years of Blood and Fire.

And does anyone have any other suggestions for me? Man, that Greyskull one was a winner. Many thanks!


Posted by: Ace at 04:10 PM




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1 Glad you're doing well!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at February 07, 2018 04:07 PM (uDcBt)

2 willowed:
i gots me a laptop, and can't take this bitch apart
Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 03:30 PM (8rNrN)



Actually you can. It can be a bit of a pain though and you'll need a small enough screw driver to it. And to hope that they didn't jam any screws in there so far that you can't get them out.

Alternatively get a can of compressed air and blow that shit out.

Posted by: buzzion at February 07, 2018 04:08 PM (lKs2v)

3 You know we have machines that can lift things?

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 07, 2018 04:08 PM (YV+SU)

4 I'm getting ready to uncover the pool (fires + pool = sludge).

No real gainzzzz to report, alas. Sauna-ing has been interesting: There really is something to the whole idea that it preserves-and-maybe-even-grows muscle mass.

Posted by: moviegique at February 07, 2018 04:08 PM (7zeA4)

5 The Greyskull tip was me. Glad it's working out for you.

Posted by: Murray at February 07, 2018 04:09 PM (X/kCU)

6 When I sit in a hot tub too long my penis seems to disappear.

Posted by: Puddin Head at February 07, 2018 04:09 PM (YV+SU)

7 If the serum numbers had much meaning I'd already be dead...

Posted by: Insomniac at February 07, 2018 04:10 PM (NWiLs)

8 My cardiac doctor put me on pravastatin years ago after my heart attack. my current doctor cut it back to 40mg a day but would not completely kill it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 07, 2018 04:11 PM (mpXpK)

9 I've made Bulletproof coffee the last couple of mornings. I like the flavor but I'm not sure about the oily mouth.
I can't say it made me immediately sharper.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 07, 2018 04:11 PM (nBr1j)

10 >>>5 The Greyskull tip was me. Glad it's working out for you.
Posted by: Murray

Thank you, Commenter. I have not missed a single session since I started Greyskull. The most I've done, laziness wise, is delay a session on one of those days where you could do it one day or the other (like on the day where you get two days rest after the workout day, so you could take the two days rest early or late without it changing the schedule).

It's been very helpful as far as keeping me interested and enthused.

(In joke, in case you don't know: I referred to jack straw as just "commenter" last week, and now I'm just calling everyone Commenter, even if i know their name.)

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:12 PM (8rNrN)

11 The King don't like Ace tryin' to kill hisself.

Posted by: Hillbilly King taking back the neighborhood one block at a time at February 07, 2018 04:12 PM (mMMjw)

12 I've used that Greyskull method intuitively before it had a name. Interesting.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 07, 2018 04:12 PM (NWiLs)

13 So . . . the whole sex-drugs-rock'n'roll thing is off the table for our Ace? Actually, I'm more about the cheap beer and high-end leafy greens these days . . . your results may vary.

Posted by: Peaches at February 07, 2018 04:13 PM (14URa)

14 I'm sure someone called the corgis already.

Maybe I should check...or not.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 04:13 PM (WlX38)

15 Ace the "in text here" link either goes nowhere or to a wierd-looking Malicious Malware Warning!!! site.

Anybody else seeing that?

That's on Brave. On Chrome the site won't even load.

Posted by: Hands at February 07, 2018 04:13 PM (EzdLW)

16 oh here's a minor thing:

I had been doing box squats to avoid full squats. I had been told that box squats are good for teaching n00bz squat form.

But they were hurting my knees.

Since I ditched the box and went to just regular old squats, my knees have felt a lot better. Almost no complaints from them at all, except for martial arts (which can wear them out).

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:14 PM (8rNrN)

17 There's a cool book called Dinosaur Training that's full of barrel lifting and Farmers walks and the like. Very old school.

Posted by: Max Power at February 07, 2018 04:14 PM (Hucnr)

18

You know who else is a crying little bitch?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits in a Pike Chair, Beeep Beeep at February 07, 2018 04:15 PM (T/KY7)

19 >>> Ace the "in text here" link either goes nowhere or to a wierd-looking Malicious Malware Warning!!! site.

Anybody else seeing that?


...

I'm not. I think he runs a pretty reputable site. If you're worried, try googling PowerliftingToWin or going to PowerliftingToWin.com.

If you're too worried to try getting there that way, just watch his YouTube review, which is basically just him reading his text review into the camera.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:15 PM (8rNrN)

20 Been doing the Rippetoe method until I wrecked my knee. I found that getting up in weight in squats (245) (for an old guy) and doing three sets three times a week for like two years was just tiring me out.

I got strong though. It's important to remember to rest, at 52 you can't just beat the snot out of your body at every session. I just got tired of being tired.

Gotta get my knee patched up and get back at it. Can't get over 190 on the squats cause of it.

Wahhhhh I am big baby.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 07, 2018 04:15 PM (ymnmz)

21 I have added a lot of stair climbing to my daily routine and I have lost some inches, though no additional weight.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at February 07, 2018 04:16 PM (QQ+il)

22 Greyskull?

I HAVE THE POWER!!!!!!

Posted by: He-Man, master of gainzzz at February 07, 2018 04:16 PM (XQvuQ)

23 I don't know. He-Man was pretty fucking gay.

Posted by: x at February 07, 2018 04:16 PM (nFwvY)

24
Trigglypuff works out to the Cameltoe Plan.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 07, 2018 04:16 PM (pNxlR)

25 Grayskull is when you get head at The Villages.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 07, 2018 04:16 PM (89T5c)

26 The buff and beardy dude in the farmer's walk video looks like John Krasinski. Yumm.

Posted by: fly gal at February 07, 2018 04:16 PM (8TdcF)

27 25 Grayskull is when you get head at The Villages.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 07, 2018 04:16 PM (89T5c)

And the herp.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 07, 2018 04:16 PM (NWiLs)

28 pravastatin: I was on Crestor, Multaq, and a thinner. Worked my way free of all but Crestor.

Stress test in two weeks. Cue Dragnet theme.

Posted by: Hillbilly King taking back the neighborhood one block at a time at February 07, 2018 04:17 PM (mMMjw)

29
Man.... I love working in a good cycle of 5x5. The squats are intense tho. I usually opt to do squats on only the A work out tho. I dont do squats on workout B but will do 5x5 deadlifts instead. Hitting heavy squats 3x a week at my age is overkill.

I love deadlifts.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 07, 2018 04:17 PM (8XRCm)

30 @Ace- never get a chance to catch or read the few GAINz threads that have been put up. So are you still doing the fasting thing?

Posted by: JROD High Testosterone Conservative at February 07, 2018 04:18 PM (sTRvb)

31 I'm fluctuating between 230-235 lbs right now. Due to work/school I have trouble sticking to low carb, but I IF for 18-21 hours each day, eat a big meal, and then a smaller snack a couple of hours later and that's it.

I've been trying to keep up with 5x5, but only twice a week due to my work schedule. I've also added in some cardio twice a week. One day of sprints and 1/4 mile intervals, and another day of 1/4 mile warm up intervals and then a longer run.

I originally planned to add in some wrestling classes, but the mudslide put the kibosh on that for a couple of weeks and right now I'm too busy. I'll try in a week or two to start that, once I get my GI Bill stuff sorted out.

I'm also intermittent with my violin practice, but I am seeing some slight improvements, which is encouraging. I've also been going into the open forge in LA most Saturdays to work on a project. Now that it's finished I'm going to take a couple of weeks off to get other stuff done, and then start in on the next project. What I'd really like is to spend my tax refund to set up a forge at home, so I can work for six-eight hours on Saturday and still have time to run other errands.

Posted by: Corbin Dallas at February 07, 2018 04:18 PM (Tnhbr)

32 Shadilay!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kh7cTdoGaQ

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) Baseball Nut at February 07, 2018 04:18 PM (Ckg4U)

33 >>>een doing the Rippetoe method until I wrecked my knee. I found that getting up in weight in squats (245) (for an old guy) and doing three sets three times a week for like two years was just tiring me out.

I might definitely cut one of the squat days (as Greyskull suggests) when I get to a more manly weight like 245.

I'm only up to 175 so i'm still on the light/n00b side.

(I think the knee problems from the box squatting really delayed my progress in adding weight.)

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:18 PM (8rNrN)

34 Would Rippetoe's Starting Strength be a good place for an 'ette whose age 29 has reached age to start? Or does it seem too advanced?

Posted by: delayna's deplorable tar & feather warehouse, franchisees needed! at February 07, 2018 04:18 PM (KNFU5)

35 Though I should add, you seem to have a slightly different way of doing Greyskull, which is probably fine.

The way I do it (and the way your links describe it), it's all based on whether you get to 5 on the AMRAP set. Get 5 or more, go up. Get less than 5 on any set, deload by 10% and work your way back up. The good thing about the deload is that you'll probably smash your previous PR for reps on the lower weight, which helps morale.

The bad thing about the 10% deload is that once you get to heavier weights, it can take you a long time to work back up to the previous highest weight. I'm at 270 on squats; if I fail now, I drop all the way to 242.5, and it could take up to 12 workouts to get back to 270.

Still, it probably doesn't matter that much. I always tell myself to aim for 7 on the final rep anyway, and I usually get there.

Posted by: Murray at February 07, 2018 04:19 PM (X/kCU)

36 * age 29 has reached age 29*

Sheesh, I guess I am an old fogey, can't even use a computer any more...

Posted by: delayna's deplorable tar & feather warehouse, franchisees needed! at February 07, 2018 04:19 PM (KNFU5)

37 Do keep up the pace Ace, we need you

Posted by: Skip LIIven the Dream at February 07, 2018 04:19 PM (aC6Sd)

38 Yeesh, what ever happened to back day, chest day, leg day and stationary bike day which was really just an excuse to lasciviously stare at sweaty hot chicks in the mirror??


Posted by: dananjcon at February 07, 2018 04:19 PM (xqfqx)

39 That's the big gadget in Greyskull -- the last set isn't set at five reps, but As Many Reps As Possible, or AMRAP.

So ... we finally get back to what I told you on one of the very first GAINZZZ threads - if you aren't going to failure you aren't working at your best.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 07, 2018 04:19 PM (8gDQu)

40 Gah! Off, sock!

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 07, 2018 04:20 PM (Tnhbr)

41 John Krasinski. Yumm.

?

One of the many goofy dudes from The Office?

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:20 PM (iv0p7)

42 >>> So are you still doing the fasting thing?

yup, i've been pretty good about Intermittent fasting and keeping consistently low carb.

I have not done the full day fasts or multiday fasts in a while, but I'm trying to figure out when I can do a four day fast.

I've been eating more like a weightlifter (eating more) and it's added some of my lost fat back, so I'd like to take like five days off from exercise and just do a full fast to get rid of some this backslide fat.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:20 PM (8rNrN)

43 The 1000 rep / 10 exercise body weight program 3 x a week is what I am doing. The time to complete is the progress measurement.

Posted by: Willie Nailher at February 07, 2018 04:21 PM (fcqmr)

44

Trump: not a drinker
Romney: not a drinker

they both look young for their age
and healthy

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 07, 2018 04:21 PM (fceHP)

45 stationary bike day which was really just an excuse to lasciviously stare at sweaty hot chicks in the mirror??

Three mirror minimum.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:22 PM (iv0p7)

46 >>>Though I should add, you seem to have a slightly different way of doing Greyskull, which is probably fine.

The way I do it (and the way your links describe it), it's all based on whether you get to 5 on the AMRAP set. Get 5 or more, go up. Get less than 5 on any set, deload by 10% and work your way back up. The good thing about the deload is that you'll probably smash your previous PR for reps on the lower weight, which helps morale.

...

I thought 5 means "do the same weight next time and go for 7." I thought 7 means increase weight, and 10+ means increase weight 2x the normal amount.

I think that's right.

If you're just going by whether you get FIVE on your last set, that's just plain Rippetoe -- on Rippetoe you add weight whenever you get through your 3x5.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:22 PM (8rNrN)

47 I'm only 29 ... However, I lift at a 45 year old level.
I'm an Advanced Lifter.



T-shirt-worthy.

Posted by: B at February 07, 2018 04:22 PM (x25VP)

48 >>>The 1000 rep / 10 exercise body weight program 3 x a week is what I am doing. The time to complete is the progress measurement.


i'm interested in hearing how that goes. I keep considering doing the (pretty minor) 100 push-ups per day on off-days.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:23 PM (8rNrN)

49 Am now running enough that I can stuff my face ad libitum. Yay!

waiting for the next minor injury but enjoying this phase while I can.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 07, 2018 04:23 PM (CPk08)

50

So what you are saying is that protein loading cavity cleansing before and after a workout my 1 pound barbell workouts is good for my complexion?

Posted by: Shemp Smith's VagBung at February 07, 2018 04:24 PM (T/KY7)

51 So the Republican sell out on the budget caused a sell off in the last half hour of today's session.

Thanks a lot, asswipes.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at February 07, 2018 04:24 PM (QQ+il)

52 Farmers walks then add a set of 20-30 body weight squats then push-ups for a set. Builds muscle and melts fat fast. Decrease the weight as your grip will fire. I was doing this in late July to really cut weight and build muscle when I hit a plateau.

Posted by: Monk at February 07, 2018 04:24 PM (g4lFK)

53 I have not done the full day fasts or multiday fasts in a while, but I'm trying to figure out when I can do a four day fast.


Please don't.

I mean that with great kindness...and great concern.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 04:24 PM (WlX38)

54 I love deadlifts.

I have breathing issues with deadlifts.

I never feel out of breath after squats, but I do with deadlifts.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:24 PM (iv0p7)

55 From the sidebar: I've been a big fan of Roger Kimball's for some time. He's the guy Norlinger dreams of being, but with balls. When asked how to reconcile his coming around to support Trump with his concern for high culture, he said (paraphrase from memory) "So I can't have a deep talk with him about Schopenhauer. Who cares?"

(And what's with the Rogers; Kimball, Scruton, good Simon. Coming out of the woodwork for our side.)

Posted by: George LeS at February 07, 2018 04:25 PM (+TcCF)

56 So what you are saying is that protein loading cavity cleansing before and after a workout my 1 pound barbell workouts is good for my complexion?
Posted by: Shemp Smith's VagBung at February 07, 2018 04:24 PM (T/KY7)

-----

Try the Shake Weight, Shep.

I be you're a natural.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 07, 2018 04:25 PM (8XRCm)

57 >>>So ... we finally get back to what I told you on one of the very first GAINZZZ threads - if you aren't going to failure you aren't working at your best.

ehhh... not really. Although failure is possible in AMRAP (or AMGRAP, as I call it), most of the time you won't bother trying a rep you're pretty sure you'll fail.

I lean towards the guys who say to err on the side of non-failure. Once in a while my AMGRAP winds up in a fail, but usually I grind it out.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:25 PM (8rNrN)

58 One of the many goofy dudes from The Office?

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:20 PM (iv0p7)
----------------------------

Yes. He was in 13 Hours. Big lib though, so that's too bad.

Posted by: fly gal at February 07, 2018 04:25 PM (8TdcF)

59 Brooks Kubik reference. Thats a flashback to the 90s.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - NOW WITH VIP at February 07, 2018 04:25 PM (aRDor)

60 The buff and beardy dude in the farmer's walk video looks like John Krasinski. Yumm.
Posted by: fly gal at February 07, 2018 04:16 PM

====================

I hate his muscles!

http://eonli.ne/2nPOLMH

Did Blunt learn to love his new body? "She hates it," he said of the Golden Globe winner. "She would way prefer to have doughy guy back."

Posted by: Emilly Blunt at February 07, 2018 04:25 PM (EzdLW)

61 dude, that is so funny u mentioned farmer's walk.

I was just swearing up and down about it. You can do it anytime too...I never use grocery carts, I just carry several dozen pounds of groceries around the store, using one arm at a time. instant workout. well...it's like a standing plank.

Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 07, 2018 04:26 PM (V3U1L)

62 24-hour fasts are good.
Anything more than that I would not recommend.

I find the 24-hour fast easiest to do if I go from afternoon (after lunch) to the next afternoon.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 07, 2018 04:26 PM (juCZM)

63 Ace, you're over-engineering all this. Just do CrossFit. I dont know whether this has been suggested to you, but I've never seen you mention it so I'm assuming not. They do 3 days in a row, 1 day off. Sometimes its lifting, sometimes its more metabolic conditioning. Scale/modify the work to suit your fitness level. This 5x5 whatever stuff is lame, and you seem to not be getting any GAINZZZ out of it. www.crossfit.com

Posted by: John at February 07, 2018 04:26 PM (UK49G)

64 I have lost 27 lbs. since November.

However, I'm annoyed because my upper arms are still flabby. I've been working out with barbells (5 and 10 lbs) since December, and I was hoping I'd see some sort of results by now. I can feel a bit more of a muscle, but there is still no definition there. (Instead, all the weight seems to be coming off my mid-section - not that I'm complaining about that). Of course, being an 'ette, I don't want budging biceps, but it sure would be nice to go sleeveless this summer without feeling self-conscious and my upper arms are not cooperating! Maybe I'm not doing it right, although I try to follow along with online trainers....

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 07, 2018 04:26 PM (ZM2xo)

65 58 One of the many goofy dudes from The Office?

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:20 PM (iv0p7)
----------------------------

Yes. He was in 13 Hours. Big lib though, so that's too bad.
Posted by: fly gal at February 07, 2018 04:25 PM (8TdcF)

He was? *checks IMDB* Holy shit, he was. I didn't recognize him at all.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 07, 2018 04:27 PM (NWiLs)

66 Also, morons, you should be careful with the flu.

Maybe now is not the best time to go to mucus covered gyms and other public places of defacation.

I'm working out alone, at home, or working on sprinting.

the flu is no fucking joke.

Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 07, 2018 04:27 PM (V3U1L)

67 dammit why did I have to miss the tranny thread

Posted by: Rick in SK at February 07, 2018 04:27 PM (FZYNt)

68 I used to leave the gym and immediately light up a cigarette, then grab a slice or two for dinner. Always skipped the gym on Friday, too many hot broads at happy hour and my arms were always jacked (did arms on Thursday)


It was the Jersey way.








Posted by: dananjcon at February 07, 2018 04:27 PM (xqfqx)

69
Another "That Guy" is mort.

Mickey Jones. You might not know the name, but you've seen him in lots of stuff. Mickey Jones was also a drummer for several big name bands including The Band, Dylan, Kenny Rogers, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB6gsqZ9aFA

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 04:27 PM (9aPjE)

70 63 Ace, you're over-engineering all this. Just do CrossFit.

Oh Jesus, here we go...

Posted by: Insomniac at February 07, 2018 04:27 PM (NWiLs)

71 the odds of form breaking down and then strain resulting in an injury go up a lot in failed reps, so I'm thinking that avoiding failure will avoid injuries and thus spare me the many, many days of NO GAINZZZ that an injury will bring.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:27 PM (8rNrN)

72 Oh Jesus, here we go...


DO.YOU.EVEN.LIFT??

Posted by: Grump928(c) at February 07, 2018 04:28 PM (QQ+il)

73 Please don't.

I mean that with great kindness...and great concern.


Multiday fasts are not a problem if you drink water with potassium and magnesium and a bit of salt.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:28 PM (iv0p7)

74 How does all this Gainzz allow me to pick "Tranny" as an option on my state Driver's License so I can get into your daughter's middle school bathroom? I am sorry. I am just not following.

Posted by: Your Local Democrat, Lefty LGBTQWERTYDOUCHEBAGPERV of the ACLU at February 07, 2018 04:28 PM (0YSzp)

75 dammit why did I have to miss the tranny thread
Posted by: Rick in SK at February 07, 2018 04:27 PM (FZYNt)

-----

*Spock Eyebrow*


Fascinating

Posted by: fixerupper at February 07, 2018 04:28 PM (8XRCm)

76 It's not really gainzz, but I did climb al 177 steps to the top of the Pensacola light house on Saturday.


Once

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 07, 2018 04:28 PM (EyPfd)

77 I got the same malware warning, with audio.

What WAS the FBI doing in early September regarding Hillary's e-mail that Obama needed to keep tabs on? Comey shut it down two months earlier.

Posted by: MikeN at February 07, 2018 04:29 PM (o/eHL)

78 If Ace does Crossfit, he'll never talk about anything else. That would ruin his smart, military blog.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 07, 2018 04:29 PM (U+nHb)

79 Ace, you're over-engineering all this. Just do CrossFit.

Oh Jesus, here we go...
=====
Had the exact same reaction . . . and knew about 70 other morons would also . . .

Posted by: simplemind at February 07, 2018 04:29 PM (tH+Xl)

80 >>> I've been working out with barbells (5 and 10 lbs) since December, and I was hoping I'd see some sort of results by now.

Curls? Most arm fat that I know is on the back of the arms so tricep work would seem a better choice, if you're not doing those.

in any event there's no such thing as spot reduction so building muscle anywhere won't reduce the fat at that location. It might tighten it up some as the muscle volume expands and the fat is stretched over a larger volume, but it won't reduce fat accumulation. Only overall fat loss will result in losing fat from any site.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:30 PM (8rNrN)

81 Ace, you're over-engineering all this. Just do CrossFit.

Oh Jesus, here we go...
Posted by: Insomniac at February 07, 2018 04:27 PM (NWiLs)

-----

A cross fitter, an atheist and a vegan walk into a bar......


Do you know how I know????







BECAUSE THEY FUCKING TOLD EVERYBODY WHAT THEY ARE THE FIRST MINUTE THEY WERE THERE!!!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at February 07, 2018 04:30 PM (8XRCm)

82 What's this about 40 year old trannies?

Posted by: Weasel at February 07, 2018 04:30 PM (d3bXz)

83
DO.YOU.EVEN.LIFT??

Do you even lift?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OloLS5kTrVs

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 04:30 PM (9aPjE)

84 Multiday fasts are not a problem if you drink water with potassium and magnesium and a bit of salt.

I think I see the flaw in this plan...

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 07, 2018 04:30 PM (ZQfW9)

85


Ooooo I never heard of CrossFit! Is it manly, maybe with getting tied to a cross? For conditioning, you know.

Posted by: Shemp Smith's VagBung at February 07, 2018 04:30 PM (T/KY7)

86 I'm experimenting with doing squats and bench twice a week and deadlifts once a week, as well as a bunch of dumbbell stuff like curls, presses, and skull crushers. My theory is that the dumbbell lifts help add easier volume and beef up the vanity muscles. So far I look bigger in the mirror but I'm not sure if I am much stronger.

Posted by: DM at February 07, 2018 04:31 PM (CVpXk)

87 If you're just going by whether you get FIVE on your last set, that's just plain Rippetoe -- on Rippetoe you add weight whenever you get through your 3x5.
____________

Except that Rippetoe stops you at 5, while Greyskull tells you to keep going until your form breaks down. It's denoted in GLP as 2x5, 1x5+.

But hey, it doesn't really matter. Like I said before, Greyskull broke me out of the Rippetoe Day 1/Day 2 grind, which is *excellent* for rank novices, but wearing after several months. Greyskull made workouts interesting again. I'm glad it had a similar effect for you.

Posted by: Murray at February 07, 2018 04:31 PM (X/kCU)

88
U mirin'?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 04:32 PM (9aPjE)

89 >>>I think I see the flaw in this plan...


um, i've been much better about this since my second trip to the hospital.

but yeah, now I make it a habit to drink a half a gallon of water before noon or one every day, and then try to get in a full gallon before bed.

I now appreciate the genuine dangers of dehydration.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:32 PM (8rNrN)

90 >>>U mirin'?

hah

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:32 PM (8rNrN)

91 69
Another "That Guy" is mort.

Mickey Jones. You might not know the name, but you've seen him in lots of stuff. Mickey Jones was also a drummer for several big name bands including The Band, Dylan, Kenny Rogers, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB6gsqZ9aFA
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 04:27 PM (9aPjE)


Yeah, he started out as a drummer, then became an actor. RIP.

Posted by: rickl at February 07, 2018 04:33 PM (xjiRE)

92 >>>Except that Rippetoe stops you at 5, while Greyskull tells you to keep going until your form breaks down. It's denoted in GLP as 2x5, 1x5+.

well, until your form breaks down OR you think your next rep would fail or cause a form breakdown.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:33 PM (8rNrN)

93
President Donald Pump

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 04:33 PM (9aPjE)

94 Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:23 PM (8rNrN)

10 body weight exercises 100 reps each. You can mix the exercises how you want but they consist of incline push ups , reg push ups, bicep pull ups , wide grip pull ups , box jumps, lunges, ab wheel, leg lifts, squats and incline lift. Of course there are dozens of other body weight exercises you can substitute to keep it interesting. First time may take you close to two hours. Takes me about an hour now.

Posted by: Willie Nailher at February 07, 2018 04:33 PM (fcqmr)

95 Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:28 PM (iv0p7)

Is that something you make up yourself or it comes packaged like that?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 07, 2018 04:34 PM (8+Ozj)

96 Would Rippetoe's Starting Strength be a good place for an 'ette whose age 29 has reached age to start? Or does it seem too advanced?
________

Starting Strength is designed specifically for novice lifters of all ages and strength levels. They have stories of teaching people in their 80s to squat. It really can't be recommended highly enough for people who want to start lifting. Once you stop progressing (which usually takes several months to a year), you move on to an intermediate program.

Posted by: Murray at February 07, 2018 04:34 PM (X/kCU)

97 34 Would Rippetoe's Starting Strength be a good place for an 'ette whose age 29 has reached age to start? Or does it seem too advanced?
Posted by: delayna's deplorable tar & feather warehouse, franchisees needed! at February 07, 2018 04:18 PM (KNFU5)

I would give that a big yes, delayna. As a post-29er 'ette myself, I've derived tremendous benefit from it.

Rippetoe is big on helping geezers. He has a lot of helpful videos on you tube, and one shows the progress a 90 year old woman made on his program.

Posted by: stace, Commenter at February 07, 2018 04:35 PM (6HFDU)

98 Quit smoking half-way through Allen Carr's book havent looked back.
Is that a gainz?
It is to me. My bank account and lungs anyway.

Posted by: Derptastic at February 07, 2018 04:35 PM (DB16e)

99 >>>uit smoking half-way through Allen Carr's book havent looked back.
Is that a gainz?
It is to me. My bank account and lungs anyway.

sure is!

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:35 PM (8rNrN)

100 Ace, you're over-engineering all this. Just do Royal Navy Pirate Seamen. I dont know whether this has been turned out to you, but I've never seen you mention it so I'm assuming not. They do 3 gays in a row, 1 gay off. Sometimes its pitching, sometimes its more catching. Dominate/submit the work to suit your sphincter level. This 5x5 whatever stuff is straight, and you seem to not be getting any PROSTATZZZ out of it. www.pirateseaman.com

Posted by: Shemp Smith's VagBung at February 07, 2018 04:35 PM (T/KY7)

101 Derptastic, that's an incredible gain. Well done.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 07, 2018 04:36 PM (U+nHb)

102 A gallon and a half of water every day?

That's...a lot.

Posted by: moviegique at February 07, 2018 04:36 PM (7zeA4)

103 98 Quit smoking half-way through Allen Carr's book havent looked back.
Is that a gainz?
It is to me. My bank account and lungs anyway.
Posted by: Derptastic at February 07, 2018 04:35 PM (DB16e)

Absolutely. Improvement to health and well-being = GAINZZZ

Posted by: Insomniac at February 07, 2018 04:36 PM (NWiLs)

104 OT, but Mollie Hemingway has an interesting piece up on the Grassley criminal referral:



https://preview.tinyurl.com/y97wysmk

Posted by: Huck Follywood, reformed Scandi-American at February 07, 2018 04:36 PM (LISuA)

105 Ok gainzzz

I don't lift, I run.

This year I made some big improvements in my running after a hot summer of speed work and hill repeats. I knocked 9 minutes off my half marathon PR and went on to hit the same goal in 4 straight races.

In December I ran a marathon I run every year and had trouble at mile 20. Decided I need to run this distance mors often. So ran two more marathons in January and will run a 4th the first weekend of March. Likely to do a 5th for the season in May.

Still having trouble with a strong finish, so working on strategy in training.

Posted by: Dave_in_Fla at February 07, 2018 04:37 PM (HvD/B)

106 Is that something you make up yourself or it comes packaged like that?

Make it myself.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:37 PM (iv0p7)

107 Quit smoking half-way through Allen Carr's book havent looked back.

wOOT! I'm 16 months in to knowing The Truth.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at February 07, 2018 04:37 PM (QQ+il)

108 >>>Would Rippetoe's Starting Strength be a good place for an 'ette whose age 29 has reached age to start? Or does it seem too advanced?

No it's meant to be for rank n00bz. You just have to watch the videos on how to safely perform each of the Big 5 --

deadlift
squat
bench press
powerclean (though many sub out barbell rows for this one)
overhead press (or just plain "press)

...and rewatch them a lot, and watch other people coach them, because you do have to remind yourself of the cues frequently until it becomes pretty ingrained in you. which can take a while.

I think squats and deadlifts are especially good for women because one of the prime muscles they build, the butt, is a muscle that women are interested in building anyway.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:37 PM (8rNrN)

109 I would have never tried a book to quit smoking but did after reading Ace's posts.
Started smoking in '89. Several failed quit attempts using pills, patches, gum and or willpower.
Allen Carr Easy WAy is really what it says.

Posted by: Derptastic at February 07, 2018 04:38 PM (DB16e)

110 Ace the "in text here" link either goes nowhere or to a wierd-looking Malicious Malware Warning!!! site.

Anybody else seeing that?

That's on Brave. On Chrome the site won't even load.

Posted by: Hands at February 07, 2018 04:13 PM (EzdLW)

I got a bad link to a warning site as well. This was in Chrome.


Posted by: Iris at February 07, 2018 04:38 PM (dYDe7)

111
- Be me
- Lose 100 pounds get ripped and shredded
- go visits parents in August
- get T boned in a car wreck
- broke a couple of ribs and spent a few nights in hospital for safety reasons.
- worried about being a dad because court
- start back training late August.
- After Labor Day doing 100 yard sprints finishing with 200 yard set.
- Pivot on a leg and gun shot sound then hit tye ground.
- can't tell if my ACL and/or Achelles is torn
- oh fuck I have to be in court to be a dad in less than 2 months.
- get trainer to check knee which was stable
- entire ankle and leg is black and blue swollen from heat to half way up my calf.
- can't walk.
- decide to work on my Brain and Debating GAINZZZ and just walking by then that date.
- going into day 4 because judge is taking this matter seriously. Killing it in a feminist court system as a dad.
- just started walking 3 miles a day a week ago with a serous brace.
- Feelz good man! looking forward to being a dad and Moar winning.

Thanks Ace for inspiration and this place! You have no idea how much this place has had a positive effect on me and my family and people working on team dad in this one situation.

Posted by: Monk at February 07, 2018 04:38 PM (g4lFK)

112 >>>Posted by: Shemp Smith's VagBung

I like to include As Many Reps as Possible into this regimen.

Posted by: Barry O at February 07, 2018 04:38 PM (RMlYr)

113 Donnie Two-Reps

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 07, 2018 04:38 PM (juCZM)

114 Ace,

I have been doing Martin Berkhan's latest RPT (reverse pyramid) setup. He is finally posting on his IF/Leangains blog/site again. It's a similar concept and I usually go to amrap on the last set as well.

It seems to work well for my 29 + 22 year old intermediate lifting level!

Posted by: NJMax at February 07, 2018 04:39 PM (GNBuA)

115 >>>A gallon and a half of water every day?

That's...a lot.

...

i meant i'd drink another half gallon to make it a full gallon on the day, but I often go over.

given my problems with chronic dehydration, it's a precraution i need to take that most probably don't.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:39 PM (8rNrN)

116 Hey Ace.. you don't look a day over 28 in any of your youtube videos!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 07, 2018 04:39 PM (so+oy)

117 A cross fitter, an atheist and a vegan walk into a bar......
...............

Five minutes later an ambulance arrives.

Posted by: wth at February 07, 2018 04:39 PM (HgMAr)

118 In his book "Antifragile," Nassim Nicholas Taleb says he just does a couple of Max Weight reps instead of several -- and that he's bulked up quite a bit as result.

I'm kind of dubious, plus there's no cardio and I don't know if he's lost fat with that method.

Posted by: ShainS at February 07, 2018 04:39 PM (es5Qa)

119 Dave, have you read that book on the walk/run method? I'm too stupid to remember the title but do know 3 people who have shown great improvements in their times and less soreness.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 07, 2018 04:39 PM (U+nHb)

120 Just getting back to PT after a month away from it (did some on my own). I was afraid i f*cked up my shoulder surgery repair after i hit the double end bag with my good arm but torqued my bad shoulder throwing an uppercut. I felt really good and thought "what the f*ck?" I'm an idiot and i will not be looking the room with the punching bags for a year. Promised myself and Heidi.

PT was humbling. Who-da thunk that lifting your arm straight with a thumbs up 40 times would hurt like a bitch.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 07, 2018 04:39 PM (7CM5W)

121 My Gainzz have been losses. I'm 5 lbs off from my goal weight. Shooting for between 160 and 165. I managed to get down to 157 when I was marathon training a few years ago, but that is level of commitment I cannot maintain.

Posted by: no good deed at February 07, 2018 04:39 PM (eIQHF)

122


not very "healthy" for Pelosi to be standing for 4-5 hours today filibustering


Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 07, 2018 04:39 PM (fceHP)

123 107

Congrats! it is a wonderful feeling!

Posted by: Derptastic at February 07, 2018 04:40 PM (DB16e)

124 My weight lifter co-worker carries a gallon jug of water around with him!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 07, 2018 04:40 PM (so+oy)

125 >>>
I got a bad link to a warning site as well. This was in Chrome.


eesh, maybe his site is hacked or something. Well, his video on YouTube should be fine, and he just reads his text review into the camera.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:40 PM (8rNrN)

126 "Curls? Most arm fat that I know is on the back of the arms so tricep work would seem a better choice, if you're not doing those."

Damnit, ace, I meant dumbbells. I don't own a barbell. BTW, what is the difference between using barbells vs. dumbbells for the same exercises - say cleans, or deadlifts? Does the barbell work muscles differently?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 07, 2018 04:40 PM (ZM2xo)

127 I switched from 1st shift to 3rd shift last week and have struggled with GAINZZZ and ZZZZZ's. Hope to get back on track soon.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at February 07, 2018 04:41 PM (3v+B0)

128 the odds of form breaking down and then strain resulting in an injury go up a lot in failed reps, so I'm thinking that avoiding failure will avoid injuries and thus spare me the many, many days of NO GAINZZZ that an injury will bring.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:27 PM (8rNrN)


By my thinking, if you are breaking form that much in a failed rep then you are probably breaking form in lots of regular reps, too. Just from my observations.

As to injuries, that's always a possibility as you get older but you have to make sure you do a very complete stretching routine before you start. I'm talking about serious stretching - stretching that hurts! That should minimize this problem.

I can understand not wanting to work to failure but I don't think injury is an issue. But, whatever you're comfortable with.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 07, 2018 04:41 PM (8gDQu)

129 119 - The guy who wrote it is, not joking, my coach.

Jeff Galloway, 10K at the 72 Olympics.

Posted by: Dave_in_Fla at February 07, 2018 04:41 PM (HvD/B)

130 Just do CrossFit.


Or join the Moonies.

Posted by: B at February 07, 2018 04:42 PM (x25VP)

131 If I can't hit anything, I'm going to need to shoot something soon.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 07, 2018 04:42 PM (7CM5W)

132
Yohimbine.

Puts lead in your pencil.
Also promotes fat loss and appetite control.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 04:42 PM (9aPjE)

133 Posted by: Monk at February 07, 2018 04:38 PM (g4lFK)


Jeez, that's rough! Congrats on losing 100 lbs and not giving up!

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 07, 2018 04:42 PM (ZM2xo)

134 I'm walking with just a medical boot now, instead of with the boot and a walker, so that's my GAINZZ for this week.

Tendon repair and ankle vascular surgery is not for the weak. I am weak, so this has kicked my ass.

Posted by: moki at February 07, 2018 04:42 PM (V+V48)

135 not very "healthy" for Pelosi to be standing for 4-5 hours today filibustering
...........

is blinking and cud chewing considered filibustering?

Posted by: wth at February 07, 2018 04:43 PM (HgMAr)

136 Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 07, 2018 04:40 PM (ZM2xo)

Stabilizing muscles ,range of motion. Dumbells require more stabilization but allow different positions.

Posted by: Willie Nailher at February 07, 2018 04:43 PM (fcqmr)

137 Please don't.

I mean that with great kindness...and great concern.


Multiday fasts are not a problem if you drink water with potassium and magnesium and a bit of salt.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:28 PM (iv0p7)


I do understand, as I do fasts and stuff bcz of the weird stuff food does to me. But from a variety of viewpoints, 3 days is the best extreme to go to. Yes, there are varying viewpoints, and I don't want to get into all that. And with Ace, and gawd knows what supplements he is currently gobbling, 3 days would really be the best and safest.

Also, his timing with all the flus going around, added to being so sickly the last few weeks, is not optimal.

And if he does go past 3, just lie to me and say he didn't.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 04:43 PM (WlX38)

138 Gainzz?

Well, I recently bought a Concept II rowing erg. (I rowed crew in college.) the hard part is reminding myself that I'm not nineteen anymore and need to ease back into it veeerry gradually.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at February 07, 2018 04:43 PM (2P5X/)

139 Woo Gainz thread!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 07, 2018 04:44 PM (xJa6I)

140 Just do CrossFit.

I'm not anti-CrossFit, but you have to have eyes wide open going in.

1. It's expensive. Gyms around here are $200+ per month. I know that's not true everywhere, but even the cheapest CrossFit gym in my area is more expensive than 95% of the other gyms.

2. You really have to be careful with the trainers. Some really know what they're doing, others just got their CrossFit basic cert and stopped progressing

3. You really have to know your body. There is a strong desire to keep up with the rest of the group. That's a big part of the draw, to push yourself and feed on the energy. But it's also a downside if you don't listen to your body and get injured.

4. A lot of the lifts they teach you are very technical, but they sometimes encourage you to do those fast. If your mind wanders or you push too hard while you're doing an Olympic lift, you can do life-altering damage.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:44 PM (iv0p7)

141 >>>I'm kind of dubious, plus there's no cardio and I don't know if he's lost fat with that method.


the current fad is that cardio is unnecessary and might even be counterproductive as it tends to reduce your T.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:44 PM (8rNrN)

142 The guy who wrote it is, not joking, my coach.

Jeff Galloway, 10K at the 72 Olympics.



Sweet! Fixx's book made me jog. Galloway's made me run.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at February 07, 2018 04:44 PM (QQ+il)

143 129
119 - The guy who wrote it is, not joking, my coach.



Jeff Galloway, 10K at the 72 Olympics.

Posted by: Dave_in_Fla at February 07, 2018 04:41 PM (HvD/B)
Jeff Galloway is your coach??? Wow...I used his training plan for the LA marathon way back in 2008 (when I was much younger). Slowly getting back into jogging/running mainly on the treadmill though...and barefoot. I can't believe how much easier it is to run without shoes. And no injuries or aches two months into it with daily running. but all indoors, alas.

Posted by: IC at February 07, 2018 04:44 PM (a0IVu)

144 Tendon repair and ankle vascular surgery is not for the weak. I am weak, so this has kicked my ass.
Posted by: moki at February 07, 2018 04:42 PM (V+V4


Ouch. Did you have an accident of some kind? A fall?

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 04:45 PM (WlX38)

145 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 07, 2018 04:41 PM (8gDQu)

I am the exception. I have never stretched.

Posted by: Willie Nailher at February 07, 2018 04:45 PM (fcqmr)

146 >>>There is a strong desire to keep up with the rest of the group. That's a big part of the draw, to push yourself and feed on the energy. But it's also a downside if you don't listen to your body and get injured.

weightlifting for speed, especially a speed set by someone else instead of your own sense of what's safe, is a bad idea.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:45 PM (8rNrN)

147 When you do an exercise to 'failure' isn't it implied that if you can't maintain proper and safe form that you are AT failure and should stop? Form is what gives you the most gaaiiinzzzzz. IMHO.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 07, 2018 04:46 PM (7CM5W)

148 Very cool, Dave in Fl.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 07, 2018 04:46 PM (U+nHb)

149 I have FINALLY gotten back to the gym. Basically the wife was unhappy with (prescription drug-caused) weight gain. So we've been going to the gym 3 times a week.

I'm not hitting the iron hard but I'm following the previous week's workout to get back into pull-up shape.

I'm trying to do squats every session and doing pull downs as often as I can. I have twinged my shoulder already, so I've had to back off on the pull down motion. Irritating.

Also mixing in some curls and butterflies.

Cardio is exercise bike or a 15 min sauna session.

Yes sauna counts as cardio. Any time it hurts to breathe, I count it as cardio.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 07, 2018 04:46 PM (xJa6I)

150 there's a female powerlifter calling herself "megsquats" on YouTube who's fun to watch and seems to know what she's doing. Though she doesn't do a lot of instruction videos per se.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:46 PM (8rNrN)

151 not very "healthy" for Pelosi to be standing for 4-5 hours today filibustering
...........

is blinking and cud chewing considered filibustering?
Posted by: wth at February 07, 2018 04:43 PM (HgMAr)


I wonder what else she has ever filibustered for, other than illegal aliens.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 07, 2018 04:47 PM (fceHP)

152

High weight rep to failure keeps me strong enough to bite through the toughest of pillows!

Posted by: Shemp Smith's VagBung at February 07, 2018 04:47 PM (T/KY7)

153 Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:44 PM (8rNrN)

Over doing cardio may lower the T but it has to be a lot.

Posted by: Willie Nailher at February 07, 2018 04:47 PM (fcqmr)

154 >>>And with Ace, and gawd knows what supplements he is currently gobbling, 3 days would really be the best and safest.

three seems safe to me but they always say it gets easier on day four (though it has not gotten much easier for me on day four in the past).

I know it's best not to go past 5, because after 5 you have that problem of having to slowly re-feed (eating too fast may cause big health problems), but four or even five are safe, I think, as long as you stay hydrated.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:48 PM (8rNrN)

155 #BitchtillyoudropNancy

Posted by: Skip LIIven the Dream at February 07, 2018 04:48 PM (aC6Sd)

156 Ace--

The only thing I'd caution, vis a vis water (and as a guy who has been on programs that required drinking more than a gallon a day) is that you get enough water-soluble vitamins (B and C, e.g.).

They tend to get flushed out when you drink a lot.

Posted by: moviegique at February 07, 2018 04:49 PM (7zeA4)

157 So,even the prosecutor bringing charges against illegal alien who killed the Colts pkayer has to dump on Trump.

Posted by: steevy at February 07, 2018 04:49 PM (LiyEm)

158

I'm really into the 750ml curls.....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 07, 2018 04:49 PM (mPeei)

159 A cross fitter, an atheist and a vegan walk into a bar......
...............

Five minutes later an ambulance arrives.
Posted by: wth at February 07, 2018 04:39 PM (HgMAr)


Ace was the bartender?

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 04:49 PM (WlX38)

160 megsquat's deadlift form is so good, I wish she would do an instructional video on it.

but if you want to see a burly guy teach it, Alan Thrall has a couple of very simple and very good vids on how to do the deadlift.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:49 PM (8rNrN)

161

Lets talk about PAINZZZ...

Posted by: Marquis de Sade, Smooth Operator at February 07, 2018 04:50 PM (T/KY7)

162 DRAINZZZZ

Posted by: Liquid Plumber at February 07, 2018 04:50 PM (QQ+il)

163
Ouch. Did you have an accident of some kind? A fall?
Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 04:45 PM (WlX3

Car wreck in January of last year. The ER treated my bruised spinal cord, but didn't bother with the rest of my body because they were (rightly) concerned that anything in the extremities was due to SCI. A couple of months later, I'm still have difficulty walking, and doc sends me to a couple of orthos for my knee and ankle-torn meniscus, broken ankle, torn tendon. By now, the other driver's insurance says docs can't prove the leg was due to the accident, so we are on our own. I spent a year in physical therapy, and it just never helped. So this was my Christmas present. To be fair, my precious husband waited on me hand and foot for a month, so it wasn't like being in a hospital or with home care, but still this has absolutely debilitated me.

Short answer, if you see someone stopped at a red light (me) stop texting and stop your car. (idiot who hit me.)

Posted by: moki at February 07, 2018 04:50 PM (V+V48)

164 Trump just cut the Aid to POCKeestan

Posted by: MISHBOT at February 07, 2018 04:51 PM (y3aQB)

165 Willowed:

Hey, Larry. Why don't you say that to the General's face.


Posted by: Jane D'oh

I immediately thought of Full Metal Jacket when Gunny Hartman punched Joker in the gut and rendered him to the floor. I would pay good money to see Kelly do that to Little Larry.

FYI - Kelly refuses to apologize for his comment. Sempi Fi !!!


Posted by: Cheri at February 07, 2018 04:51 PM (oiNtH)

166 There is something weird with that link. If I click on it directly it opens fine, but if I right-click to open it in a new tab, it comes up with the phishing page.

Posted by: Murray at February 07, 2018 04:51 PM (X/kCU)

167 Fasting has been great for me, btw and FWIW and thanks, Ace.

I haven't been able to do it as much because my Achilles heel is sleep (as in, I have a kid who likes to wake me up in the middle of the night) and fasting + sleep deprivation = no es bueno.

But when she lets me sleep, I fast for as long as I can, and that has kept my lossezzz-gainz steady.

Posted by: moviegique at February 07, 2018 04:51 PM (7zeA4)

168 Yikes, don't drink too much more than half your body weight in ounces, maybe 8-16 oz more for exercise. You'll wash out your electrolytes. Look up hyponautremia.

It's a real thing. DO NOT drink a gallon daily.

Posted by: dagny at February 07, 2018 04:51 PM (16bxt)

169 Deadlift (and squat and bench) are lifts where you need to make sure your proportions and leverages match the video you are watching. That will drive your form more than anything.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy - NOW WITH VIP at February 07, 2018 04:52 PM (aRDor)

170 STAINZZZ

Posted by: Cankles at February 07, 2018 04:52 PM (nisXv)

171 weightlifting for speed, especially a speed set by someone else instead of your own sense of what's safe, is a bad idea.

In fairness, a lot of the "for speed" activities are things like box jumps, bodyweight squats, burpees, rowing machine laps, and stuff like that all in a circuit.

I've heard about bad CrossFit gyms where some of the technical lifts were done for speed, that type of thing is what I'm warning about.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:52 PM (iv0p7)

172

Farting has been great for me, btw and FWIW and thanks, Ace.

Posted by: Le Pétomane at February 07, 2018 04:52 PM (T/KY7)

173 I got rid of the link to PowerliftingToWin's website, and now i'm just linking his review on YouTube.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:53 PM (8rNrN)

174 Chipotle announced on Wednesday that they will give their employees bonuses up to $1,000 thanks to President Trump's historic tax cut.
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Posted by: MISHBOT at February 07, 2018 04:53 PM (y3aQB)

175
DO NOT drink a gallon daily.

Posted by: dagny
_____________________

With this,, I beg to differ.....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 07, 2018 04:54 PM (mPeei)

176 >>>In fairness, a lot of the "for speed" activities are things like box jumps, bodyweight squats, burpees, rowing machine laps, and stuff like that all in a circuit.

well.... okay, but box jumps? There's an injury possibility there and I'd think you'd want to go at your own (fast but safe) pace.

also i've seen people jumping back down from the box squat which i'm told you should never do, as that's a tendon tear waiting to happen. (Always step back down, don't jump down.)

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:54 PM (8rNrN)

177 It's not the vitamins that you have to worry about flushing out, it's the electrolytes. If you're not eating much processed food, use the salt shaker too. Low sodium and too much water can kill you. It actually causes dehydration but in reverse. You're cells can't function.

Posted by: dagny at February 07, 2018 04:54 PM (16bxt)

178 three seems safe to me but they always say it gets easier on day four (though it has not gotten much easier for me on day four in the past).


Safety wise, it depends a lot on the person. 3 days is optimal, truly. At least wait until Spring and after the flus and stuff have passed.

The body has natural rhythms that correlate to seasons. It holds onto more in winter, and is willing to let go in Spring and Summer.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 04:54 PM (WlX38)

179 dagny--

Good point about the electrolytes. (They're what plants crave! And I am incapable of not saying that whenever anyone says "electrolytes".)

I don't seem to have issues with dehydration or salts for whatever reason, even with a 20-minute sauna at 200 degrees. Go figger.

Posted by: moviegique at February 07, 2018 04:54 PM (7zeA4)

180 But when she lets me sleep, I fast for as long as I can, and that has kept my lossezzz-gainz steady.

Posted by: moviegique at February 07, 2018 04:51 PM (7zeA4)

Didn't some actor or singer have doctors put them in a coma to lose weight?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 07, 2018 04:55 PM (7CM5W)

181 160 megsquat's deadlift form is so good, I wish she would do an instructional video on it. "

I will look her up online.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 07, 2018 04:55 PM (ZM2xo)

182 Got a local meet next weekend. We'll see if I have any gainzzz to report.

Based on training to date, I should be good for a 20kg increase from October.

Posted by: browndog at February 07, 2018 04:55 PM (bGMOs)

183 Chipotle announced on Wednesday that they will give their employees bonuses up to $1,000 thanks to President Trump's historic tax cut.
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Posted by: MISHBOT at February 07, 2018 04:53 PM (y3aQB)
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crumbs that will give you the squirts.

Posted by: wth at February 07, 2018 04:55 PM (HgMAr)

184 So,even the prosecutor bringing charges against illegal alien who killed the Colts pkayer has to dump on Trump.

Posted by: steevy

One of his teammates came out and said that Jackson would not want his death to be politicized. Easy to say when you are not, you know, dead.

Posted by: Cheri at February 07, 2018 04:55 PM (oiNtH)

185 >>>The only thing I'd caution, vis a vis water (and as a guy who has been on programs that required drinking more than a gallon a day) is that you get enough water-soluble vitamins (B and C, e.g.).

okay, i'll add those. I've been doing B-12 lately and can just start up with a multivitamin again for the rest.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:56 PM (8rNrN)

186
Deadlift form will become second nature to you when you fully grasp the "hinge" concept.

Pushing your feet through the floor while standing upright via your hips, thus making your body-motion like a hinge.

And there's about ten other things to remember in between there, such as neutral neck; shoulder blades squeezed together; tight core; arms locked out at elbows; etc.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 04:56 PM (9aPjE)

187 Speaking of YouTube lifters, did you see that lady who did a wall sit with like 900 lbs stacked on her lap?

Some other lifter called her out as a faker and invited her to come to his gym and reproduce it. She showed up and failed bigly.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:56 PM (iv0p7)

188

Squirt Crumbs? Hmmmm...

Posted by: Shemp Smith's VagBung at February 07, 2018 04:57 PM (T/KY7)

189 I will not do box jumps - not after knee surgery. Also I can see myself losing my balance very easily.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 07, 2018 04:57 PM (ZM2xo)

190 http://bit.ly/2GWCpuF
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Posted by: MISHBOT at February 07, 2018 04:58 PM (y3aQB)

191 When I see cross fitters do pull ups with piking as fast as they can, I cringe. And evidently so do they on the way to the doctor.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 07, 2018 04:58 PM (U+nHb)

192 I'm not in good a shape as Ace. I don't even lift, bro.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2018 04:58 PM (39g3+)

193 Multiday fasts are not a problem if you drink water with potassium and magnesium and a bit of salt.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:28 PM (iv0p7)


I'm on a kind of serious calorie restricted diet right now and started looking at how little potassium and magnesium I was getting.

Bad. Really bad. Now I have some supplements until I get to where I want to be.

Having a good BP gauge will start to warn you when things are going awry. It started warning me.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 07, 2018 04:59 PM (2FqvZ)

194 Greg Candito of CanditoHQ has a good video on the various proportions of deadlifters and what their deadlifts will look like. Greg Nuckles has a text report on that.

Also, OmarIslauf and Greg Nuckles do a video together, a long, long one, on the squat, and they show what people with different limb lengths and body types will look like doing a proper squat. They have three very different body types, so it's useful to see that there is no one squat form.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 04:59 PM (8rNrN)

195 Always step back down, don't jump down.

Good call. My wife (former college athlete) told me to do this. Nobody else warned me. It's good to know other people are aware of this danger.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 04:59 PM (iv0p7)

196 Ace --

B deficiency can be kind of fun since it can give you weird dreams. (I think B1, in particular.) That's what gives the drying-out drunk the pink elephants.

Cannibal Bob --

A coma would work but seems a bit drastic rather than, you know, just not eating.

Posted by: moviegique at February 07, 2018 04:59 PM (7zeA4)

197 I believe Greyskull is a reference to Tarzan.

Posted by: Mary Q Contrary at February 07, 2018 04:59 PM (HLTe8)

198 At PT today Is aw a gut working on agility for a sprained calf muscle.

Ladder thing on the floor going back and forth and side to side. Also, tapping alternating feet on that half ball thing. i need to incorporate that into workout to maintain agility. Plus he was breathing pretty heavy. As soon at my shoulder is a bit stronger I'll start on that.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 07, 2018 05:00 PM (7CM5W)

199 Keto Savage and Keto Connect use ZippFizz for potassium- 950mg per serving.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 07, 2018 05:00 PM (U+nHb)

200
Also I can see myself losing my balance very easily.

Posted by: Donna
_____________________

Keep a bollard around. Always works for me....

*hic*


Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 07, 2018 05:00 PM (mPeei)

201 Cast Greyskull was Skeletor's crib...

Posted by: steevy at February 07, 2018 05:00 PM (LiyEm)

202 197 -- That would be Graystoke. Tarzan was the heir of the Lord of Graystoke, I believe. (Edgar Rice Burroughs' conception of English royalty may not have been rigorous.)

Posted by: moviegique at February 07, 2018 05:01 PM (7zeA4)

203 Posted by: moki at February 07, 2018 04:50 PM (V+V4

Oh my, that does sound awful. I was in a hit and run once, really shook me up. I was fortunate not to be injured.

I always say to people I worry about other drivers. And they'll say, but hey, if they hit you, they are at fault, and have to pay.

I, of course, talk about the injuries and how no amount of money covers that. As you are finding out.

And people can not drive, talk, text and listen to the radio at the same time without being distracted, and dangerous. They think they can...they can't. I try and watch for them.

Stay strong. Glad you have a kind hubby.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 05:01 PM (WlX38)

204

I fell on a bollard once.

Best GAINZZZ I ever had...

Posted by: Shemp Smith's VagBung at February 07, 2018 05:01 PM (T/KY7)

205 Umm Nancy Paloozi is filibustering? Has anyone in the House of Reps noticed that they are not in the Senate, that there is no filibuster and that they can just make a motion to get her to sh*t the f*ck up?? I believe its as simple as a "point of order" motion to the speaker/chair to enforce House Rules which severely limited debate time etc.

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 07, 2018 05:01 PM (0YSzp)

206

Jonny Candito??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 05:01 PM (9aPjE)

207 The farmers daughter run has always been good cardio.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 07, 2018 05:02 PM (6Ll1u)

208 >>>Keto Savage and Keto Connect use ZippFizz for potassium- 950mg per serving.

sounds good, I'll look into that. I like Keto Connect.

right now I just pour some potassium chloride into a 32 ounce bottle. I try not to put in too much (you need the proper level of water with your potassium, or else you might actually poision yourself), but with that much water, I figure I'm doin' pretty good.

I should be more careful about measuring tho.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 05:02 PM (8rNrN)

209 I want to take a magnesium supplement but got a headache on Amazon trying to decide what the correct one was. Anyone take a magnesium + potassium in the same cap?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 07, 2018 05:03 PM (7CM5W)

210 Just published my first book on Amazon. Finishing Strong! Strength Training for Old(er) Men. By Old(er), I'm talking 60-90.

eBook is published and should be linked to paperback in a day or two.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0999349007

Reading Rippletoe 6 years ago made me a believer. I was 65 at the time.



Posted by: DesCon at February 07, 2018 05:03 PM (Dg0BU)

211 Jonny Candito??

Vagisil Max Strength will clear it right up.

Posted by: Shemp Smith's VagBung at February 07, 2018 05:03 PM (T/KY7)

212

Omar Surfclam is a t-shirt peddler who pretends he's a weightlifter. He's got like 6 years experience pushing iron.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 05:03 PM (9aPjE)

213 207 The farmers daughter run has always been good cardio.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 07, 2018 05:02 PM (6Ll1u)

That's when the shotgun-wielding farmer catches you.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 07, 2018 05:03 PM (NWiLs)

214 Hey Ace, regarding the fasting, I've been doing a 48hr fast every week, starting Saturday night and ending Monday night. I do my weight training Monday through Thursday evening, with lots of eating to feed the gains post workout Monday through to Friday, with Saturday being a 2000 calorie day. I've found I'm able to make gains in the muscles without also gaining fat doing it this way.

Posted by: pete at February 07, 2018 05:04 PM (meg+g)

215 205 Umm Nancy Paloozi is filibustering? Has anyone in the House of Reps noticed that they are not in the Senate, that there is no filibuster and that they can just make a motion to get her to sh*t the f*ck up?? I believe its as simple as a "point of order" motion to the speaker/chair to enforce House Rules which severely limited debate time etc.
Posted by: Publius Redux at February 07, 2018 05:01 PM (0YSzp)
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She must be sweating about her primary. Poll numbers must be pretty bad.

Posted by: WisRich at February 07, 2018 05:04 PM (G0vdT)

216 >>>Pushing your feet through the floor while standing upright via your hips, thus making your body-motion like a hinge.

I don't understand this cue, the push through the floor thing, but I hear it a lot. I'll try to keep it in mind tomorrow (which is deadlift day and I'm kinda stoked about that).

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 05:04 PM (8rNrN)

217
PLEASE don't tell me you watch Maxx Chewning, too.

These youtubers are mostly clowns.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 05:04 PM (9aPjE)

218 I should be more careful about measuring tho.


Seriously, Bro. Many people can be casual with messing with their chemistry but you have a bad track record so it seems to me that you don't feel problems coming on. You need to take extra care.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at February 07, 2018 05:05 PM (QQ+il)

219 I am intrigued by the Grayskull approach. My only worry is deteriorating for on the last set. My gainzzz to date are due to my keeping good form and avoiding injury

Posted by: Regular joe at February 07, 2018 05:05 PM (7PllL)

220 @209
Try magnesium citrate alone. It is the most easily absorbed of any of the magnesium supplements.

Posted by: browndog at February 07, 2018 05:05 PM (bGMOs)

221 Yeah Jeff is an amazing coach too. I have been coaching with him for 5 years now. I've dropped 54 minutes off my half marathon time.

Now we are trying to work on the marathon and figure out the right strategy for me. I haven't had as great a success there as with the half, but I have dropped 1:07 off my PR. I can do better though.

Posted by: Dave_in_Fla at February 07, 2018 05:05 PM (HvD/B)

222 Posted by: pete at February 07, 2018 05:04 PM (meg+g)


That's actually a really good method.

Do 4 days that way Ace. 2 days one week. 2 days the next.
It is way better for your body.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 05:06 PM (WlX38)

223 >>>I've found I'm able to make gains in the muscles without also gaining fat doing it this way.

I had wanted to work in 48 hour fasts but I only did it a few times in the current training plan. I should definitely try to do it more.

Technically I SHOULD eat today as I lifted yesterday and therefore could still be building muscle but I might try to make today a fast day anyway.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 05:06 PM (8rNrN)

224 220
@209
Try magnesium citrate alone. It is the most easily absorbed of any of the magnesium supplements.



Posted by: browndog at February 07, 2018 05:05 PM (bGMOs)

Much appreciated. is magnesium or potassium more important? I mean which do you lose more of and is most dangerous to lose?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 07, 2018 05:06 PM (7CM5W)

225
I don't understand this cue, the push through the floor thing, but I hear it a lot.

Ha @ "cue!"
Now I know you're watching way too much youtube.

btw, the best youtube fitness celery is Jason Genova. Not really, bro. He's the biggest joke on youtube, besides Mike Chang.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 05:07 PM (9aPjE)

226
The farmers daughter run has always been good cardio.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
______________________

I usually get my cardio running down the stairs with a cup of Irish coffee. I gainzzzzzzed a broke toe and ortho boot....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 07, 2018 05:07 PM (mPeei)

227 Magnesium is best absorbed with calcium, as well.

This stuff works:

https://retail.vitalbulk.com/cal-mag-drink-kit/

Posted by: moviegique at February 07, 2018 05:08 PM (7zeA4)

228 >>>I am intrigued by the Grayskull approach. My only worry is deteriorating for on the last set. My gainzzz to date are due to my keeping good form and avoiding injury

think As Many GOOD Reps as Possible, and do not try reps where you suspect you'll fail or your form will deteriorate.

Some say "Keep one good rep in the tank," which seems a bit too cautious to me (if you've got a good rep, why wouldn't you use it?), but if you err on the side of No Failure, Only Clean Reps, you won't fail that often.

I do fail sometimes, but it's by accident when I've misjudged exactly what I had left in the tank and I gambled.

The Greyskull guy says, I think, you're not trying to go to failure, though you might wind up there sometimes.


Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 05:08 PM (8rNrN)

229 Also, Keto Connect uses Natural Calm "a relaxing magnesium suppliment" for magnesium. I have found it greatly helps with leg cramps and not sure if just placebo effect but I think it helps me sleep. Don't care if it's placebo or not.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 07, 2018 05:09 PM (U+nHb)

230 Anyone take a magnesium + potassium in the same cap?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 07, 2018 05:03 PM (7CM5W)


I make a ten day supply of each in separate water bottles in the fridge. Drop ten pills into a water bottle, fill with water. Shake the next morning. Pour out an ounce and a half, drink. Repeat with other. Then have tea or coffee. Not sure they get along together.

Potassium is something you have to be real careful about not overdoing.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 07, 2018 05:09 PM (2FqvZ)

231 I don't understand this cue, the push through the floor thing, but I hear it a lot.

I always interpreted that as keep your feet planted and don't come up on your toes or rock the weight back through your heels.

I don't know if that's what people mean, though.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 05:09 PM (iv0p7)

232 Probably the hardest workouts I've ever done was slow rep german volume training. 10 X 10. Usually with back to back antagonistic muscles. So 10 rep squats, 10 rep hack machine. 20 total sets, 120 seconds between each set. 3 second concentric, 4 seconds eccentric.

But the hardest exercise by far is the 20 rep squats. That will change your fucking brain chemistry.

Now I don't exercise and just sit around smoking cigarettes, LOL.

Posted by: Max Power at February 07, 2018 05:10 PM (q177U)

233 >>>Seriously, Bro. Many people can be casual with messing with their chemistry but you have a bad track record so it seems to me that you don't feel problems coming on. You need to take extra care.

yeah, you're right. I'll buy a plastic quater-teaspoon measuring thing and stick it right in the damn bottle so that I always have an actual measuring spoon.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 05:10 PM (8rNrN)

234
I don't understand this cue, the push through the floor thing, but I hear it a lot.

Ace, it's very very simple: The only way you're using your legs in a deadlift is...pushing your feet down [through the floor] while you lift the bar as you stand up.

In other words, your legs *should* be doing lots of work but the load isn't on your legs like it is when squatting. So the ENERGY your legs are producing are in the action simply pushing your feet through the floor (figuratively, of course.)

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 05:10 PM (9aPjE)

235 >>>Omar Surfclam is a t-shirt peddler who pretends he's a weightlifter. He's got like 6 years experience pushing iron.

i like him though he's not one of my go-to guys. But the vid he did with greg nuckles about different body types' squat form is good.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 05:12 PM (8rNrN)

236 cholesterol is a red herring

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 07, 2018 05:13 PM (hMwEB)

237 Any exercise program where I have to be constantly aware of the real potential for injury does not sound fun or mentally productive.

All activities have the potential for injury but if a relatively high percentage of your thought process is not to get injured I would not do it.

Posted by: Willie Nailher at February 07, 2018 05:13 PM (fcqmr)

238 @ cannibal bob

Both are important in the own ways. Magnesium is important for strength athletes.
Check out Examine.com for full details on this, and most any supplement.


Posted by: browndog at February 07, 2018 05:13 PM (bGMOs)

239 I'm not in the best shape.

Nor am I a fitness guru.

But I do remember at one time mentioning MOAR REPS.

Posted by: golfman at February 07, 2018 05:14 PM (48QDY)

240 Or you could skip the pills and powders and just eat vegetables. If you've eliminated simple carbs and sugars, you should be getting enough veg you don't need supplements.

Posted by: dagny at February 07, 2018 05:14 PM (16bxt)

241
You're not simply straightening your legs and locking your knees at the completion of a deadlift. You are ENGAGING your legs by pushing down. It's that simple.

The difficulty is in, as I mentioned above, doing it simultaneously to achieve that perfect stiff-solid hinge motion.

I think Alan Thrall covers when people make the common mistakes of either engaging their legs too early or too late in the lift.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 05:14 PM (9aPjE)

242 If you're low on magnesium, you'll get cramps. It's a 1:1 relationship.

Posted by: dagny at February 07, 2018 05:15 PM (16bxt)

243 Any exercise program where I have to be constantly aware of the real potential for injury does not sound fun or mentally productive.

Don't include Olympic lifts then.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 05:15 PM (iv0p7)

244 >I've found I'm able to make gains in the muscles without also gaining fat doing it this way.

I had wanted to work in 48 hour fasts but I only did it a few times in the current training plan. I should definitely try to do it more.

Technically I SHOULD eat today as I lifted yesterday and therefore could still be building muscle but I might try to make today a fast day anyway.
Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 05:06 PM (8rNrN)


If I may add, in Pete's approach what works so well, is the consistenty. If and when it stops working, then you change it up for awhile. But consistenty is key.

I definitely have problems doing that, I stop tracking, and get focused elsewhere and screw it up. And it does me no favors. I can't make it up by shoving the prior 2 weeks into a 4 day fast. I may tell myself I can, and rationalize it, but in long term it doesn't help me.

It's that consistency and tracking I need to build, so it becomes automatic. I had done, then my sister happened, and I've never regained my stride.


Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 05:16 PM (WlX38)

245 If you're low on magnesium, you'll get cramps. It's a 1:1 relationship.

Drink pickle juice for muscle cramps. It'll clear up your problem faster than anything else.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 05:16 PM (iv0p7)

246 Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 05:15 PM (iv0p7)

I injure myself just looking at them doing a snatch.

Posted by: Willie Nailher at February 07, 2018 05:16 PM (fcqmr)

247 cholesterol is a red herring
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 07, 2018 05:13 PM (hMwEB)

Grandma in law had cholesterol at 384.

Apt. She died at 84. Worked in the garden up until...

Posted by: golfman at February 07, 2018 05:17 PM (48QDY)

248 I've already lifted snow 3 times this week and there's 2 more in the forecast.

It's fluffy though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8EFVDq0crs

I'm ready to go back to Texas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZL_tZxyBDo

Posted by: DaveA at February 07, 2018 05:17 PM (FhXTo)

249 I am just now out of the linear progression on Starting Strength, and switching to more shorter workouts, four days instead of 3 etc. Strength improved pretty significantly over the course of the progression. I'm using the over 40 programs from barbell prescription. I have a training helping me on form, which still sucks. I REALLY suck at standing press for example. Squats and deadlifts are passible. All the lifts are difficult for me now. I finally got to add HIIT and I'm doing that on the bike. Getting to minimum body fat was a total waste of time. I am finding it really hard to put on weight. I gained 25 lbs but have hit a wall there.

Posted by: bogart at February 07, 2018 05:18 PM (GzeOI)

250 What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?

Nothing. You told her twice already.

Posted by: Dogstar at February 07, 2018 05:18 PM (Tcovx)

251
The setup (or approach) to a deadlift is very ritualistic.

To avoid injury and to make gainzz, you need to develop and memorize your own pre-deadlift ritual to make certain your entire body and especially your core-girdle is t.a.f. Tight as f*ck. And never relax until your set is complete.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 05:18 PM (9aPjE)

252 @243 bonhomme-except the clean n jerk which should be done daily.

Posted by: JROD High Testosterone Conservative at February 07, 2018 05:18 PM (sTRvb)

253 Heh, at home I have hoses, but when I travel with the horses I do a "farmers walk" with buckets of water.

I bought myself a pull-up gizmo to go in a doorframe but I don't think I'll be able to use it until I go back and buy some assist bands. When your 29 but your birthday is old enough to drink you have to balance get out there and exercise to counter aging with not getting wild and setting up an injury that will take forever to heal.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 07, 2018 05:18 PM (eASYU)

254
As to potassium, I can not figure out how any human can consume the (RDA) Recommended Daily Allowance. Primates hanging from ripe banana trees, sure. Humans? Not possible. Especially with modern agriculture taking more and more from the ground without putting anything back in.

I kinda suspect it's why I look pretty cut, but the scale tells me I'm heavy.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 07, 2018 05:19 PM (2FqvZ)

255 "In Trump's America, we must all make GAINZZZ, so that we will prove ourselves Worthy in the Years of Blood and Fire."

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I fucking love this blog,

Posted by: Community Organizer at February 07, 2018 05:19 PM (lsLJS)

256 252 @243 bonhomme-except the clean n jerk which should be done daily.
Posted by: JROD High Testosterone Conservative at February 07, 2018 05:18 PM (sTRvb)

Jerk first, clean after.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 07, 2018 05:19 PM (NWiLs)

257 Thanks all for supplement advice. I'm taking notes. Heidi has low blood pressure and her pulse is near death. if her electrolytes get out of whack she crashes. I sweat like a 500 lb. whore so hydrating is important.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 07, 2018 05:19 PM (7CM5W)

258 If you're low on magnesium, you'll get cramps. It's a 1:1 relationship.

Posted by: dagny at February 07, 2018 05:15 PM (16bxt)


What happens if you're unlucky enough to get a cramp in your heart muscle?

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 07, 2018 05:20 PM (2FqvZ)

259 Looks like jordie_ray on twitter found some smoking gun proof of Obama emailing Hillary on her homebrew server.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yd6bn46o

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 05:20 PM (iv0p7)

260 Very, very OT - but Pope Benedict wrote to an Italian newspaper:

'I was moved by the many readers of your newspaper who desire to know how
I am spending this last period of my life. I can only say that in the
slow waning of my physical forces, inwardly I am on a pilgrimage towards
Home. It is a great grace for me to be surrounded, on this last part of
the road, sometimes a bit tiring, by such love and goodness that I
never could have imagined. In this sense, I consider the question of
your readers as an accompaniment. I can only thank them and assure you
all of my prayers'

Brought me to tears.

Posted by: IC at February 07, 2018 05:20 PM (a0IVu)

261 yeah, you're right. I'll buy a plastic quater-teaspoon measuring thing and stick it right in the damn bottle so that I always have an actual measuring spoon.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 05:10 PM (8rNrN)


*takes note that Ace said this*
*saves post in screen print*

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 05:21 PM (WlX38)

262 Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 07, 2018 05:18 PM (eASYU)

A former girlfriend gave one of those door pull up bar. Never trusted my doorframe enough to ever use it.

Posted by: Willie Nailher at February 07, 2018 05:21 PM (fcqmr)

263 I perform one squat a day. Usually about an hour after breakfast and a few cups of coffee.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at February 07, 2018 05:21 PM (w1zJX)

264 I sweat like a 500 lb. whore so hydrating is important.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 07, 2018 05:19 PM (7CM5W)

Me, too.

Might be the Budweisers. Heavies for accuracy.

Posted by: golfman at February 07, 2018 05:21 PM (48QDY)

265
Heh, speaking of gainzz, the SI swimsuit issue apparently going #metoo, but all I see are boobies.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 07, 2018 05:22 PM (r+sAi)

266
*takes note that Ace said this*
*saves post in screen print*

Posted by: professor disarray
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Print, frame, hang on wall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at February 07, 2018 05:22 PM (w1zJX)

267 @256 Insomniac-Correct, good catch too!

Posted by: JROD High Testosterone Conservative at February 07, 2018 05:23 PM (sTRvb)

268 245
If you're low on magnesium, you'll get cramps. It's a 1:1 relationship.



Drink pickle juice for muscle cramps. It'll clear up your problem faster than anything else.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 05:16 PM (iv0p7)

May have been my imagination, I really don't know because sometimes great days and sometimes bad days in the boxing gym but citrulin malate (sp?) seemed to keep me going strong in my workout water.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 07, 2018 05:23 PM (7CM5W)

269 265
Heh, speaking of gainzz, the SI swimsuit issue apparently going #metoo, but all I see are boobies.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 07, 2018 05:22 PM (r+sAi)

"Ugh! That guy with the camera has been looking at me ALL DAY! It's, like, so demeaning!"

Posted by: Insomniac at February 07, 2018 05:23 PM (NWiLs)

270 My cat food bag says "Proactive Health" on the front.

Well, yeah, if I don't give it to her, she'll die.

Posted by: Johnny at February 07, 2018 05:24 PM (kUotE)

271 cholesterol is a red herring
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 07, 2018 05:13 PM (hMwEB)


I am starting to wonder about that. Like the settled science on the food pyramid, carbs & fat, could this be wrong too?

Just like restricted salt lowers blood pressure. Wasn't that dissproved? Or eggs and butter being bad for you.

Certain things I'm uncertain about. Cholesterol is one.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 05:25 PM (WlX38)

272 270 My cat food bag says "Proactive Health" on the front.

Well, yeah, if I don't give it to her, she'll die.

-----------

Community organizer we are simpatico, I effing love this blog.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 07, 2018 05:26 PM (U+nHb)

273 A third of the vegetables I eat are actually fruit.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 07, 2018 05:27 PM (6Ll1u)

274 OT: Fox seems to have forgotten that Obama's illegal DACA amnesty had a sunset clause and they keep blaming Trump for ending it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 07, 2018 05:27 PM (mpXpK)

275 I don't take supplements.
My version of eating healthy is eating only meat, occasionally eggs & cheese.
My version of exercise is walking the dog and doing chores.
My vice is coffee.

I've been doing this for 11 months, I'm a lot healthier than I was - no more anemia, no more weird abdominal pain, time of the month is not a horror movie anymore.

I'm still on BP meds but it is a pretty liw dose. My doctor thinks that with my family history there may be no avoiding that?

Maybe it will happen after my body heals the rest of my internal problems.

I'm at a healthy weight, but for vanity I wouldn't mind dropping 5 or 10 pounds.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 07, 2018 05:27 PM (hMwEB)

276 271 Certain things I'm uncertain about. Cholesterol is one.





Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 05:25 PM (WlX3

As I said above my doctor says the science on that is not settled and will not take me off of cholesterol medicine.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 07, 2018 05:28 PM (mpXpK)

277 My gainnzzzz aint so grand, flexibility issues and pain in my legs are getting worse... sucks to get old before my time.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at February 07, 2018 05:28 PM (0OmEj)

278 Richard Pryor's widow says hubby and Brando had teh secks.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 07, 2018 05:28 PM (iv0p7)

279 I hope Cholesterol is a red herring. I will not take statins but my total CHL is always around 220. My triglycerides are always in range though.

Posted by: Willie Nailher at February 07, 2018 05:28 PM (fcqmr)

280 I've been coming here for a long time. The wayback machine has archives of Ace back to 2004. That's 14 years. If Ace is almost 29, that means he is 28. 28-14 = 14. Ace was a conservative blogger following politics at age 14? Even rightly chewed me out once early on for suggesting we start slitting throats, like his tagline.

Posted by: Ironwood at February 07, 2018 05:29 PM (3T/nT)

281 It's amazing what the newzreaders forget, Vic.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 07, 2018 05:30 PM (89T5c)

282 time of the month is not a horror movie anymore.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 07, 2018 05:27 PM (hMwEB)


Says you.

Posted by: Husbands everywhere at February 07, 2018 05:31 PM (7CM5W)

283 The latest on salt is that salt has no impact on blood pressure unless you are salt sensitive. I did a test right after my heart attack and ate salty potato chips all daay long while taking BP every hour. It did not change.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 07, 2018 05:31 PM (mpXpK)

284 Posted by: Ironwood at February 07, 2018 05:29 PM (3T/nT)

Kilt his first bar at age 12.

Posted by: Willie Nailher at February 07, 2018 05:31 PM (fcqmr)

285 279 yes
inflammation is the killer, not cholesterol

there was a 10 year study in Europe that showed that ppl with the lowest cholesterol had the highest mortality rate

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 07, 2018 05:31 PM (hMwEB)

286 274 OT: Fox seems to have forgotten that Obama's illegal DACA amnesty had a sunset clause and they keep blaming Trump for ending it.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 07, 2018 05:27 PM (mpXpK)



Well Fox has always been all in on amnesty.

Posted by: buzzion at February 07, 2018 05:32 PM (lKs2v)

287 Lets all make sure ace is hydrating enough too. moar water!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2018 05:33 PM (39g3+)

288 As I said above my doctor says the science on that is not settled and will not take me off of cholesterol medicine.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 07, 2018 05:28 PM (mpXpK)


Definitely go with the doctor. I would not mess with that.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 05:33 PM (WlX38)

289
The Ace-bot gets refreshed every 3 years.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 07, 2018 05:33 PM (9aPjE)

290 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 07, 2018 05:31 PM (mpXpK)

My layman opinion is that too much salt causes you to retain water which is not a good thing if you have cardio / HP problems.

Posted by: Willie Nailher at February 07, 2018 05:33 PM (fcqmr)

291 Oh, FFS

I've heard people have missed my photo tweets. I took this yesterday during a long, peaceful walk by the Potomac on a break from putting finishing touches on my book. I'm looking forward to its release and joining the discussion about ethical leadership. James Comey @Comey Feb 6, 2018

Posted by: fly gal at February 07, 2018 05:33 PM (8TdcF)

292 283 The latest on salt is that salt has no impact on blood pressure unless you are salt sensitive. I did a test right after my heart attack and ate salty potato chips all daay long while taking BP every hour. It did not change.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 07, 2018 05:31 PM (mpXpK)
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I conducted a similar test this weekend, minus the hourly BP measurements, by eating an entire box of Dunkin Donuts donut holes.

Posted by: Weasel at February 07, 2018 05:34 PM (d3bXz)

293 271 cholesterol is a red herring
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 07, 2018 05:13 PM (hMwEB)


I am starting to wonder about that. Like the settled science on the food pyramid, carbs & fat, could this be wrong too?

Just like restricted salt lowers blood pressure. Wasn't that dissproved? Or eggs and butter being bad for you.

Certain things I'm uncertain about. Cholesterol is one.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 05:25



My cholesterol has been hanging in the 200-220 range for the last 25 years. On meds it drops to about 190-200. Doc finally suggested that may be normal for me. I still take a meds but wonder is the near diarrhea is worth it.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 07, 2018 05:34 PM (0tfLf)

294 286 Well Fox has always been all in on amnesty.

Posted by: buzzion at February 07, 2018 05:32 PM (lKs2v)

Fox has always loved them some RINOs, now they are further left than that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 07, 2018 05:34 PM (mpXpK)

295 Walking is excellent exercise but its main drawback is time. It takes a while out of your day to get a good walk in, so you need to set aside a fair chunk. Best if you can mix it in with something else, like listening to a book recording or something, to dual task.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 07, 2018 05:34 PM (39g3+)

296 279 I hope Cholesterol is a red herring. I will not take statins but my total CHL is always around 220. My triglycerides are always in range though.
Posted by: Willie Nailher at February 07, 2018 05:28 PM (fcqmr)

A lot of it is heredity and can't be avoided. Even at my lowest weight and highest fitness levels, my cholesterol was always high. My liver just cranks that shit out. Dietary changes and all that move the needle not at all. I really don't worry about it, mostly because I just don't care.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 07, 2018 05:34 PM (NWiLs)

297 Ficus is very bad for your HDL.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at February 07, 2018 05:35 PM (Tyii7)

298 I'm still on BP meds but it is a pretty liw dose. My doctor thinks that with my family history there may be no avoiding that?



Genetics are huge. I should have high blood pressure, but I have low. Too low at times. Genetics on my maternal side.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 05:36 PM (WlX38)

299 Post #260-IC

Very nice sentiment. It reminds me of 2nd Corinthians 4;16-which BTW, is one of Grammie Winger's favorites:

Therefore we do not lose heart, but though our outer man is decaying, yet our inner man is being renewed day by day.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 07, 2018 05:36 PM (8+Ozj)

300 The Chinese leadership is exemplary in it's fight for human rights. That fellow in Venezuela ain't too shabby, either. Satan can have the Orange Vulgarian.

Posted by: Dope Francis at February 07, 2018 05:36 PM (89T5c)

301 OT - Well since someone else brought it up, I don't see how there can be *any* alternatives for the WH other than to announced discretionary non-enforcement against "dreamers", since there is nothing, under the constitution, that the president can do about "DACA".


That's kind of the whole point of the legal reasoning (which was obvious and beyond challenge) provided when the illegal EO was allowed to lapse. I don't think there's any basis even for this March deadline. Again, apart from discretion on enforcement (which is abusive and illegal, when it's systematic and not situational, as in this case - just ANOTHER shredding of the rule of law), no excecutive authority exists to do any of this.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 07, 2018 05:37 PM (QDnY+)

302 I understand one can lose a lot of weight by manufacturing and installing shelving.

Posted by: Jim at February 07, 2018 05:37 PM (wnFFv)

303 I did a lot of reading on the research after my hearty attack. Genetics is the leading cause of heart problems and high BP. smoking was said to be second.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 07, 2018 05:38 PM (mpXpK)

304 Dietary changes and all that move the needle not at all.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 07, 2018 05:34 PM (NWiLs)

The assumption is that 75% of cholesterol is endogenous, and 25% is exogenous.

So if your liver really likes to make cholesterol, drugs are probably the only answer to lowering your levels.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 07, 2018 05:38 PM (wYseH)

305
@259 dont know who this jr chick is, but she is smokin hot.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 07, 2018 05:38 PM (r+sAi)

306 I've made some great Gainz lately, in my rate of cannabis consumption.

Posted by: Chris M at February 07, 2018 05:39 PM (eAZVt)

307 My liver likes to make martinis. And pussy hats. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at February 07, 2018 05:39 PM (Tyii7)

308 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 07, 2018 05:39 PM (mpXpK)

309 I thought (most of) the "science" on cholesterol and sodium/cardiac health had been .... "oh, never mind" because of examination of the original research had found bad statistical methods.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 07, 2018 05:39 PM (QDnY+)

310 Men need cholesterol to make testosterone. Carbs at night and before sleep kills HGH production. One of the many reasons why parents putting boys on vegetarian and vegan diets are literally abusing them IMHO.

Hence the soyboi problem.

Posted by: Momk at February 07, 2018 05:40 PM (g4lFK)

311 Where can I get some new genetics?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 07, 2018 05:40 PM (IqV8l)

312 When my BP started going up the first thing I did was quit salt. I used a lot of salt. It had no affect.

Posted by: Hillbilly King taking back the neighborhood one block at a time at February 07, 2018 05:40 PM (mMMjw)

313 Where can I get some new genetics?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


They are working on it. New parts too.
I wish they'd hurry up.

Posted by: Hillbilly King taking back the neighborhood one block at a time at February 07, 2018 05:41 PM (mMMjw)

314 On Paloozi filibustering:

She must be sweating about her primary. Poll numbers must be pretty bad.
Posted by: WisRich at February 07, 2018 05:04 PM (G0vdT)

****

That would probably be true ~ only in the heat of a lefty fever dream would the idea of "my poll numbers are tanking because of my lefty, anti American policies and stances ~ so I MUST double down and be even more lefty to win my next election!!!!!" make any sense.

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 07, 2018 05:44 PM (0YSzp)

315 I think your body makes cholesterol because it needs it to help fix something else wrong with you (inflammation)

you use drugs to lower cholesterol, you still have the inflammation - you gonna die even sooner

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 07, 2018 05:46 PM (hMwEB)

316 Ace is conservative at heart, even if he denies it, Ironwood.

He was nearly 29 when he started the blog and he's nearly 29 today. That's consistency!

As for inflammation, guys, one thing that Dr. Rhonda Patrick has noted with some of her smarty-doctor guests is that inflammation is not a random evil visited upon the body to punish us. It exists for a reason: It may be bad but the alternative--the body failing to react appropriately to certain conditions--would be worse.

Posted by: moviegique at February 07, 2018 05:48 PM (7zeA4)

317 I was doing great with my gainz and doing the IF, losing weight and feeling great until Dec.9 then I had a stroke and I haven't been on a gainz thread since.

No reason for me to have a stroke, I had NONE of the risk factors for it at all.

However, it turns out I have a sort of blood cancer that caused my red and white blood cell count to go through the roof and my platelets also which made my blood so thick I had a stroke.

Now I am on chemo for that. So my gainz are that I don't need to use a cane to walk anymore and I am back at work.

Kind of a bummer but it could be worse.

Posted by: Lily(Former Broncos Super Fan) now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night and not a Russian Bot at February 07, 2018 05:49 PM (vivhj)

318

160
megsquat's deadlift form is so good, I wish she would do an instructional video on it.



but if you want to see a burly guy teach it, Alan Thrall has a
couple of very simple and very good vids on how to do the deadlift.





Posted by: ace


You are welcome (remove space after "0ce8"):

https://38.media.tumblr.com/e795862e8af7034bfe456280ab4f0ce8 /tumblr_mp3ximhRmv1sxe0i1o1_500.gif

Posted by: imp at February 07, 2018 05:50 PM (co1DC)

319 >>>Walking is excellent exercise but its main drawback is time. It takes a while out of your day to get a good walk in, so you need to set aside a fair chunk.

true, but walking at an athletic pace (that gets your heart rate up) and also walking with weight cuts down the amount of time needed to get a good workout from walking.

The pace most people think of as "walking" is not exercise-type walking. Exercise walking is that strange gait you see in the Olympics, in race-walkers.

It's a gait that is actually inefficient because at that speed, it's easier to just jog (which is why you have to take special mental care to NOT break out into a jog).

race-walking for 20 or 30 minutes isn't super-challenging, but it is cardio, and it's low-impact as far as joints.

again, walking fast (but not that fast) with heavy weights can give you a heavy-breathing workout in like 5-10 minutes, depending on the weight.

(You can't walk super-fast this way, I don't think; it would start to get a big dangerous.)

I'm just a big fan of the farmer's walk. I can't wait until tomorrow (Farmers walk day!)

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 05:51 PM (8rNrN)

320 Lily, that's awful
glad youare recovu
many prayers

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 07, 2018 05:53 PM (hMwEB)

321 here you go, Ace

https://www.amazon.com/Royal-Canadian-Exercise-Physical-Fitness/dp/1626545480

Posted by: ploome at February 07, 2018 05:58 PM (vzZKT)

322 https://www.amazon.com/Royal-Canadian-Exercise-Physical-Fitness/dp/1626545480

11 minutes a day

Posted by: ploome at February 07, 2018 05:58 PM (vzZKT)

323 Posted by: Lily(Former Broncos Super Fan) now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night and not a Russian Bot at February 07, 2018 05:49 PM (vivhj)


Oh Lily, how scary. I cannot even imagine. If it is any comfort, I wonder if all those gainzz protected you from having more damage. I wouldn't be surprised. And also, sounds like no brain damage.

I hope the chemo is successful. Stay strong.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 06:02 PM (WlX38)

324 >>>I was doing great with my gainz and doing the IF, losing weight and feeling great until Dec.9 then I had a stroke and I haven't been on a gainz thread since.

No reason for me to have a stroke, I had NONE of the risk factors for it at all.

However, it turns out I have a sort of blood cancer that caused my red and white blood cell count to go through the roof and my platelets also which made my blood so thick I had a stroke.

Now I am on chemo for that. So my gainz are that I don't need to use a cane to walk anymore and I am back at work.


...

so sorry to hear of this, Lily. I hope you kick its ass.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 06:04 PM (8rNrN)

325
Off topic and not directed at anyone in particular. But given eons of evolution, humans or their ancestors must have run into dietary 'dry spells' when known good food sources disappeared. Would evolution protect cells from unknown food sources by protecting good cells from poisons?

It's an interesting idea that serious fasting prior to chemo is a very good idea.

There's some valid science that indicates the protections afforded to good cells does not extend to cancer cells.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 07, 2018 06:04 PM (2FqvZ)

326 Thank you, Votermom!

Prayers of gratitude back your way.

Posted by: Lily(Former Broncos Super Fan) now of AoSHQ, Assassin in the Night and not a Russian Bot at February 07, 2018 06:05 PM (vivhj)

327 309 I thought (most of) the "science" on cholesterol and sodium/cardiac health had been .... "oh, never mind" because of examination of the original research had found bad statistical methods.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 07, 2018 05:39 PM (


Unfortunately, it takes a lot of docs a long time to come around.

I always remember that even after blood letting was proved to be an ineffective treatment, and even made things worse, it took 250 years to go out of practice.

Now, word of mouth was slow. Today, things are faster, but maybe too much and too fast, with contradicting info. So people do what they know...including docs.

I mean, the huge revelation on Vitamin D came from Mercola iirc. And there was a lot of pushback b/c he wasn't a real doc, iirc. Finally it broke through, and now we know getting the right amount of D, which something like half the American population doesn't, may be responsible for a host of diseases. And it is being studied by "real" docs.



Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 06:11 PM (WlX38)

328 >>>Heh, speaking of gainzz, the SI swimsuit issue apparently going #metoo, but all I see are boobies.<<<

I hope that all of these wannabe #metoo bitches realize that when Sharia Law becomes the law of the land, the casting couch won't yield a lucrative $1million dollar salary for flashing your delectable titties to the masses.

But look on the bright side, future generations will get raped and mutilated at the tender age of nine in accordance with Allah's Will and your complicity will ensure that this practice continues ad infinitum.

Posted by: Fritz at February 07, 2018 06:11 PM (bJ0w+)

329 *not getting

Dang nab it!

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 07, 2018 06:13 PM (WlX38)

330 Have you ever tried RPT (Reverse Pyramid Training) style?
I am 40 years old and have been lifting for 23 years now. And I have had to back off my volume. Changed up my workouts to two upper body days (A heavy day and a hypertrophy day) and two lower body days (A heavy day and a hypertrophy day).
Seems to have helped me some, but on my heavy days I do a RPT style workout, the hypertrophy days I do straight sets.

Posted by: Seth_D at February 07, 2018 06:22 PM (jxIwX)

331 Did you ever make micro plates Ripptoe recommends? It really helps with progression once you to a plateau.

Posted by: Eggo at February 07, 2018 06:27 PM (QCwhW)

332 >>>ave you ever tried RPT (Reverse Pyramid Training) style?
I am 40 years old and have been lifting for 23 years now. And I have had to back off my volume. Changed up my workouts to two upper body days (A heavy day and a hypertrophy day) and two lower body days (A heavy day and a hypertrophy day).
Seems to have helped me some, but on my heavy days I do a RPT style workout, the hypertrophy days I do straight sets.

i've played with it slightly but I don't really get it. What do I do, start off with a one rep max then go down in weight doing more reps?

I could try it some time but for now i'm liking greyskull.

I don't want to hit too much volume, especially on squats, because that's what made me miserable before.


>>>Did you ever make micro plates Ripptoe recommends? It really helps with progression once you to a plateau.

yeah i've had 1.25 lbs for a while but got 0.5 lb "plates" a month ago, to super-micro-load on my overhead press, which is a super embarrassing sticking point for me.

but with very small jumps in weight plus Greyskull (plus doing a lot of back-off sets for additional volume, plus adding in incline benches on overhead press days as an assistance, and front/lateral/back delt raises on bench days for more assistance) i'm slowly climbing the OHP ladder.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 06:40 PM (8rNrN)

333 Shit, I thought THESE were the Years of Blood and Fire. Guess I need to up my gainzzz.

Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable Yet Fuzzy at February 07, 2018 07:29 PM (1FhAQ)

334 Well, I'm sticking with my Old Geezer version of Rippetoe, but I've added HIIT workouts three times a week. I'm surprised at how much I find I enjoy HIIT. Fifteen minutes in and out, and I leave feeling like I got run over by a truck.

That's good, right?

Lost six pounds, too.

Posted by: William Quick at February 07, 2018 07:56 PM (Ewoxi)

335
ace,
I'm still working the short-fasting (or IF) angle. But I've plateaued. But then again, I've not really concentrated on weight reduction since the holidays ended.
Anyway, I still think your fasting advice was both informative and inspiring.
I copied it into a document and need to review it again.

Weight is stable at about 187lbs.

My first ideal goal remains 175lbs. - I might stop there ("IF", har har) I ever get there. I don't think I would ever go below 165lbs. But I doubt there's any danger of getting anywhere near that light again.

My ability to for runs remains much improved since I lost that first 15 or so pounds after plunging into IF.



Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 07, 2018 08:21 PM (Z2PYk)

336 Thank you Stace! Time to get it in gear...

Posted by: Delayna's deplorable tar and feather warehouse, call ahead to guarantee your order! at February 07, 2018 09:54 PM (KNFU5)

337 >>>I've added HIIT workouts three times a week. I'm surprised at how much I find I enjoy HIIT. Fifteen minutes in and out, and I leave feeling like I got run over by a truck.

That's good, right?

...

yeah. I said that cardio was now kind of disfavored among experts. The exception to that is HIIT, or other high-muscle-activation stuff like full out windsprints.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 11:56 PM (8rNrN)

338 >>>I'm still working the short-fasting (or IF) angle. But I've plateaued. But then again, I've not really concentrated on weight reduction since the holidays ended.
Anyway, I still think your fasting advice was both informative and inspiring.
I copied it into a document and need to review it again.

Weight is stable at about 187lbs.

...

i've found that getting bored of it/losing mental engagement with it = lack of actual compliance = lack of results.

But then, ginning up enthusiasm to take another crack increases mental engagement, which increases compliance, which produces GAINZZZZ.

Posted by: ace at February 07, 2018 11:58 PM (8rNrN)

339 i've played with it slightly but I don't really get it. What do I do,
start off with a one rep max then go down in weight doing more reps?



I could try it some time but for now i'm liking greyskull.



I don't want to hit too much volume, especially on squats, because that's what made me miserable before.


For me, I do a couple warm up sets, so for Bench press as example.
I will do 95 lbs for a few reps, rest for a min or two. 135 for a few reps, rest a min or two and if I feel good and ready, then I begin my working sets, if I don't I'll do another warm up set around 185.
First working set 230 lbs for 4-6 reps
Second working set (drop ~10%) 210 lbs for 6 - 8 reps
Third set (Drop another 10%) 190 lbs for 8 - 10 reps

Done with bench, move to next chest exercise. I think it is similar to the Greyskull routine.

Regarding squats, what I have done is on heavy days, do RPT as well with them, so 3 sets, also do heavy leg press for 3 sets and then machine hack squats for 3 sets
On hypertrophy days, for squats, I do like 6 sets. (rest time 1min 30sec)
Do 95 lbs for 10, rest
2nd set 115 for 10, rest
3rd set 135 for 10, rest
4th set 155 for 10, rest
5th set 180 for 10, rest
6th set 160 for 10, done.
So not going all that heavy
The other thing I will say with squats is make sure your form is on point.
Open them hips up, puts less stress on the knees.

Posted by: Seth_D at February 08, 2018 06:56 AM (jxIwX)

340 Because I follow the strict 5x5 routine I'm not doing anything specific with my biceps which has been bugging me lately.
But I saw a cool video with good old Arnie back in the day and he talks about a bicep routine that is working out really well for me. I do it at the end of every alternate session.
Grab the heaviest dumbbells that you can do only 1 rep of dumbbell curls with and then you fail. The big ones. Do 1 rep with those and then grab the next set of dumbbells that are lighter down the row. Do 1 rep again and then repeat with the next lightest dumbbells, all the way down to the very lightest. Your biceps are screaming at the end of it. Great way to finish up.

Posted by: Adam at February 08, 2018 08:53 AM (5oKrH)

341 Ace,
I've had great success with the workout from MUSCLE HACK. Seems to hit on all the current science about lifting. Take a look:

http://freebodybuildingworkoutprogram.com/thtdownload/THT7.pdf

I'm also very much in favor of No sugar/No grain approach to diet. Give this guy a few minutes of your time:
https://vinnietortorich.com/intro-to-nsng/
Free 20 page PDF and great podcasts !

Bill in NM

Posted by: F16 Bill at February 08, 2018 11:09 AM (NOCT9)

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