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How the FBI and DOJ Lied to the FISC Court
Bear in mind, when the FBI and DOJ presented the Steele Dossier to the court as their pretext to open surveillance, they would have almost certainly identified him as a "source" who has "previously proven reliable" (the quotes are just-for-example verbiage, not actual quotes) and cited, for example, his work in the FIFA investigation as well as his service in MI6.
In short, they would have presented his inherent reliability as a reason to believe the otherwise completely unsubstantiated claims his "dossier" offered. His dossier offered no proof -- the only "proof" of the dossier's claims would Steele's reliability, honesty, and lack of bias or material interest in this case. But, according to The Memo, the FBI and DOJ had reason to know that Steele wasn't all that reliable -- and they concealed each of these points from the court: 1. They withheld from the court that Steele was working for Trump's rival for the presidency, Hillary Clinton, and the DNC, which Hillary Clinton had contractually taken over by this point. They only said in their application that Steele was working for a "U.S. person." The fact that Steele had been commissioned by Trump's political opponent would have greatly diminished his perceived reliability -- he had a material interest in this dossier "succeeding." He had been paid $160,000 to produce it. (And note, Glenn Simpson refused to say if he was ever paid to get an investigation started.) As this information would have reduced Steele's reliability in the court's eyes, the FBI/DOJ concealed that from the court. They lied. They represented Steele as reliable, but then hid competing evidence of his unreliability. This sort of hearing is ex parte. Only one side gets to present evidence to a judge. No representative of Trump or Carter Page was in the room. It seems to me that the government, when seeking a warrant in an ex parte hearing, should present contrary evidence so that the judge can make an informed decision. There's no opposing party in the room to offer that contrary evidence, and no one except the government itself to look out for the civil rights of the people it's seeking surveillance orders on. The government does not seem to have offered the court such information, and seems to have concealed information they knew would be relevant to the judge's understanding of the situation and his decision on granting the warrant. To the detriment of a citizen's civil rights, note. 2. No less an authority than Bruce Ohr communicated to his superiors that Steele was personally extremely biased in this matter. Not just paid to be biased; but personally, emotionally biased himself. Ohr reported that Steel personally "was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president." Steele's reliability depends largely on his judgment, his dispassion. Steele didn't have any information of his own -- he got his information long-distance from Russian operatives and government officials whom he might have paid. Steele has always been touted as an "MI6 agent" to prove that he is expert in separating bullshit from real intelligence -- and yet, he put transparent nonsense like the Pee-Pee Party bullshit into his dossier. Given that he was "desperate" and "passionate" to keep Trump out of the White House, one begins to understand his failure to discriminate between plausible claims and implausible ones. This information would have helped the court determine if it agreed with the FBI and DOJ that Steele was reliable and a good judge of unverified gossip and rumor -- so the FBI and DOJ again concealed this highly-pertinent information from the court. 3. The FBI and DOJ had, of course, a huge reason to suspect Steele wasn't as reliable as they were representing to the court-- namely, that they stopped working with him for violating their ethical rules of confidentiality in peddling these claims to media organizations. I would say that Steele betrayed himself here, proving that he was still working for FusionGPS as a political operative trying to plant dirt against a target he was paid to undermine, and not an informant or researcher working for the FBI. The FBI and DOJ concealed the fact that they had terminated their relationship with Steele from the court. 4. On that, the initial FISA application claimed that Steele's claims were corroborated by independent reporting by Michael Isikoff -- the idea being, this isn't just Steele who's reporting this, it's also the completely independent reporter Michael Isikoff. But Michael Isikoff wasn't an independent source at all -- he was fed these claims by Steele himself. So there was no second source for Steele's claims -- you had Steele making these claims, and then Steele's stenographer repeating Steele's claims under a byline of "Totally Not Christopher Steele." However, the FBI/DOJ "assessed" that Isikoff's reporting was independent and represented it that way to the court. Now, it we can't say they lied on that point -- they might just have been wrong. Incompetent, as usual. Steele lied to them about, or at least concealed, his blabbing to reporters. Or so we're told, anyway. However, after the DOJ/FBI ended its association with Steele for spreading his claims to various media organizations, in violation of FBI/DOJ confidentiality agreements, it surely must have at least occurred to them that perhaps Steele had also previously spread his tales of Urinary Olympics to Michael Isikoff. However, if such thoughts occurred to them, they quickly put them out of mind. Despite now having reason to suspect that they had, whether wittingly or unwittingly, misrepresented to the court that Isikoff's article constituted independent corroboration, they seem to have taken no efforts to repair that misrepresentation and inform the court that their initial representation may have been completely false. It's not a lie to tell the court something untrue if you don't know it's untrue -- but it is a fraud on the court to conceal from the court the fact that you now believe you previously told them an untruth. Perhaps they were not lying, but merely incompetent, when they first told the court that Michael Isikoff's article stood as independent confirmation of Christopher Steele's claims of Ureter Races. Did they ask Steele about this? Did they ask Isikoff? Or did they not ask, because they did not want to know the answer? Lawyers will sometimes keep themselves deliberately ignorant of facts which they would have to disclose to the court if they knew them. This is why defense lawyers often tell their clients, "Don't tell me if you're guilty or not." But they do not seem to have bothered to investigated this possibility and, in any event, did not alert the court to their previous misrepresentation. When they decided to hide their previous, possibly inadvertent, misrepresentation from the court, and continue maintaining it to be true, that's when something that may have begun as a mere (incompetent, stupid, willful) mistake turned into a deliberate lie.Has it undermined national security to know those charged with protecting our national security are lying in court filings in order to fraudulently obtain surveillance warrants against American citizens? Anyone who says "yes" to that would seem to have a, let us say, Putinesque understanding of what national security is. By the way, if you want to see the MSNBC rebuttal to these claims, see AllahPundit's twitter timeline. He's retweeting MSNBC/NBC with furious vigor. Corrected: I said Steele was taking money from the FBI -- I don't actually know that. The FBI has refused to answer that question for a year. I've omitted that claim. Correction Two: I also said the DOJ/FBI "fired" Steele, but I think I should probably say something vaguer like "ended their work with him." I don't know if he was ever officially "hired," and therefore I don't know that he could be "fired." Clarification: The language The Memo used for what I wrongly called Steele's being "fired" is that Steele was "terminated as a source." Eeenteresting: A tweet from Sean M. Davis, brought to my attention by someone who calls himself "Commenter:"
@seanmdav Wow. Unmentioned here is that a former Isikoff researcher at NBC, Taylor Sears, worked for Fusion GPS at the time all of this was going down.I'll say one thing for FusionGPS -- when you pay them to put a political hit on someone, they really go to the mattresses to put that political hit on the target.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: zombie at February 02, 2018 01:48 PM (42M22)
Posted by: garrett at February 02, 2018 01:49 PM (eOBDQ)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 01:49 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Ellen DeGeneres at February 02, 2018 01:49 PM (eOBDQ)
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 02, 2018 01:50 PM (iH4Z+)
Posted by: zombie at February 02, 2018 01:50 PM (42M22)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 01:50 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 01:50 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 02, 2018 01:50 PM (fA1SL)
By the way, if you want to see the MSNBC rebuttal to these claims, see
AllahPundit's twitter timeline. He's retweeting MSNBC/NBC with vigor.
LOL...it is probably the only thing he does with vigor.
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 01:50 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at February 02, 2018 01:50 PM (foYMy)
LET FREEDOM RING!!!!!
Let the white dove sing.
Let the whole world know that today
Is a day of reckoning!!!!
Let the weak be strong......let the right be wrong
Roll the stone away.......let the guilty pay
ITS IN DA MEMO DAY!!!!!!!
Posted by: fixerupper at February 02, 2018 01:50 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: garrett at February 02, 2018 01:51 PM (eOBDQ)
Posted by: dananjcon at February 02, 2018 01:51 PM (xqfqx)
That's it? Dishonest and misleading memo wrecked the House intel committee, destroyed trust with Intelligence Community, damaged relationship with FISA court, and inexcusably exposed classified investigation of an American citizen. For what? DOJ & FBI must keep doing their jobs.
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 01:51 PM (Enq6K)
Some MSM will not be able to accept this report, and will rationalize it away. They have become pathological.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 02, 2018 01:51 PM (iH4Z+)
Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at February 02, 2018 01:52 PM (foYMy)
All you have to do is suggest the inverse: what if the FBI had gotten a dossier that was paid for by Republicans?
Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at February 02, 2018 01:52 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: Parker at February 02, 2018 01:52 PM (ZfzDM)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 02, 2018 01:52 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 01:52 PM (fiGNd)
Let the white dove sing.
Let the whole world know that today
Is a day of reckoning!!!!
Let the weak be strong......let the right be wrong
Roll the stone away.......let the guilty pay
ITS IN DA MEMO DAY!!!!!!!
Posted by: fixerupper
We'll put a boot in yer ass
It's the American way!
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2018 01:52 PM (T0djb)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 01:52 PM (fiGNd)
You're more likely to slip and fall in your bathroom and die than be killed by a terrorist.
As soon as a Democrat got in the White House, this power was abused for politics. Count on that continuing to happen every time you give DC more power.
Posted by: Maritime at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (lKmt3)
Carter Page."
Next Memo in the series will be how Mike Flynn was spied on so that Yates and Strzok could frame him in a perjury trap
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (n+6mJ)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: SVELTE DIDDONUFFIN at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (T0djb)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (iH4Z+)
Posted by: Chef Creole at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (wfLwk)
Posted by: Michael the Texan at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (nvMvs)
Posted by: James Comey at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (SkuXa)
Posted by: fixerupper at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (8XRCm)
This year is gonna be epic, lads. Forget the midterms, half of the Obama DOJ will be indicted by 2020.
Posted by: trev006 at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (jRA31)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Andrew Jarbocka at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (kbGgB)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: Rather Not at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (oPogG)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 02, 2018 01:54 PM (Boy/L)
Investigations would be tremendously yuge, classy and luxurious.
Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at February 02, 2018 01:54 PM (+dsLj)
Those methods are to fabricate documents, lie to judges, withhold evidence that would exonerate their innocent target.
It reveals their methods and sources are to serve a master foreign to the US Republic, whether that be the DNC, the CFR, or shadowy oligarchs.
FBI at the top political level (not field agents) has a long history of this, but now they tried to overthrow a president, that we the people elected to remove such global cabal corruption.
but Ryan still thinks they are all pure, nothing to see here.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2018 01:54 PM (bT8Z4)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 02, 2018 01:54 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Under Fire at February 02, 2018 01:54 PM (r9UYA)
What other absurd euphemisms will they come up with for the next document?
Portfolio?
Affidavit?
Docket?
Directive?
Epistle?
Posted by: zombie at February 02, 2018 01:54 PM (42M22)
Why did these guys even pretend they were Republicans let alone conservatives?
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 01:54 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Andrew Jarbocka at February 02, 2018 01:54 PM (kbGgB)
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 02, 2018 01:54 PM (2FqvZ)
Posted by: The Tree of Liberty at February 02, 2018 01:54 PM (vtcmf)
And is anyone tweeting back a rebuttal to Jimmy Drama?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 01:54 PM (8+Ozj)
Was this to create additional evidence for a FISA warrant renewal? It would seem it was an attempt to create another reason beyond the dossier.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 02, 2018 01:54 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at February 02, 2018 01:55 PM (Dp6qK)
This is only possible if, as some of us postulated, Mulehead is working for Trump.
Posted by: Mister Christopher (in Atlanta!) at February 02, 2018 01:55 PM (FsN6J)
Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at February 02, 2018 01:55 PM (rdl6o)
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at February 02, 2018 01:55 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 02, 2018 01:55 PM (iH4Z+)
Yet, we have the libtard press and web monkeys calling this a nothing burger.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 02, 2018 01:55 PM (so+oy)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 02, 2018 01:55 PM (ymnmz)
I'm thinking "right away, boss. coming up"
Posted by: jwb7605 at February 02, 2018 01:55 PM (DofIg)
Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at February 02, 2018 01:55 PM (foYMy)
Well, he's a Rangers Fan.
So, that should tell you all you need to know.
Posted by: garrett at February 02, 2018 01:56 PM (eOBDQ)
Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at February 02, 2018 01:52 PM (foYMy
**********************************
They destroyed their own website. I use to love that place. *sigh*
Posted by: redridinghood at February 02, 2018 01:56 PM (PvFoN)
The FBI and DOJ concealed the fact that they had fired Steele from the court.
This alone should have been enough to quash the application.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 02, 2018 01:56 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: fixerupper at February 02, 2018 01:56 PM (8XRCm)
If the FISA applications failed to mention who funded Chris Steele research, perhaps they should have. Regardless, it would've been careless of law enforcement to have excluded such alarming national security information from such a trusted source and ally of the United States.
McMuffin thinks Steele is "a trusted source and ally of the United States."
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 01:56 PM (Enq6K)
So, that should tell you all you need to know.
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I know.
Ford guys..... right??
Posted by: fixerupper at February 02, 2018 01:57 PM (8XRCm)
I'm thinking "right away, boss. coming up"
Posted by: jwb7605 at February 02, 2018 01:55 PM (DofIg)
Really ?
I'm thinking there's about a Snowball's Chance in Hell of getting anything else out of the FBI ... short of showing up with armed members of another agency and taking the shit.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 01:57 PM (fiGNd)
Oh she's involved.
This is a very limited piece of what took place during the election. A very important piece but it really only has to do with how the FISA warrant was obtained.
Power was more involved in the unmasking and leaking of information. That will be coming with the OIG report and other places.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 01:57 PM (/tuJf)
How does it get renewed three times? That covers one full year from just before the election through nine months after the inauguration.
Does anything new come up? Does FISC ask if the surveillance is revealing anything? Does FISC still rely on the Steele dossier and a Spikey Issikoff story?
Is a warrant application written in crayon sufficient to allow the government to spy on an American citizen with close ties to the *sitting* President?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 02, 2018 01:57 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 02, 2018 01:57 PM (iH4Z+)
Burn it all down.
Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at February 02, 2018 01:57 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: Mr Pragmatic T. Pessimist at February 02, 2018 01:58 PM (6V3Sz)
Apparently multiple people signed those FISA requests from both the DOJ AND FBI.
INCLUDING after President Trump was in Office.
Thus every single one of them, bought the same story? independently???
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 02, 2018 01:58 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 02, 2018 01:58 PM (vg8iE)
Fucking soccer. What the hell would the machinations of a professional sport that almost doesn't exist in America (because it friggin sucks donkey balls) matter?
If the dossier was based on some Eurotrash soccer expert then it should have been laughed out of the court without knowing anything else.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 02, 2018 01:58 PM (8gDQu)
Meh.
Marco's Garbage kinda built it up to something it...well, just wasn't.
I mean.
It was nice and all.
Just not as girthy as I was hoping for...
Posted by: Midden Heap at February 02, 2018 01:58 PM (eOBDQ)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (6FqZa)
For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up.
Posted by: James Comey, teetering closer to the edge of the abyss at February 02, 2018 01:58 PM (2FqvZ)
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 01:58 PM (Enq6K)
For I have rescued you from the dominion of the Swamp, and verily drained it, and brought you into the kingdom of Schlong, also known as Mar-a-Lago.
Posted by: zombie at February 02, 2018 01:58 PM (42M22)
Posted by: no good deed at February 02, 2018 01:58 PM (eIQHF)
hard to fathom
What facts does AP have for rebuttal and proof of Trump's collusion?
Talk about alternate universe.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 01:59 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 01:59 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 01:59 PM (/tuJf)
The guy is a friggin foreigner. SInce when is the American government allowed to spy on an American citizen on nothing but the word of some fuzzy foreigner? Especially during a Presidential campaign. WTFFF??
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 02, 2018 02:00 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 02, 2018 02:00 PM (PvFoN)
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 02:00 PM (a0IVu)
I suspect cybernetic intelligences of an eastern origin.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 02, 2018 02:00 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 02, 2018 02:01 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse , The Baffled and Bewildered at February 02, 2018 02:01 PM (O+THj)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 02, 2018 02:01 PM (oVJmc)
Too much Chris Steele today, not enough Riley Steele.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 02, 2018 02:01 PM (2FqvZ)
Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2018 02:02 PM (qmmcr)
Posted by: Cheri at February 02, 2018 02:02 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Mr Pragmatic T. Pessimist at February 02, 2018 01:58 PM (6V3Sz)
Ill take that action.
Posted by: Country Boy at February 02, 2018 02:02 PM (7Py7T)
...whose sources are Russian agents
*face palm*
Posted by: Lizzy at February 02, 2018 02:02 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:02 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 02, 2018 01:57 PM (fuK7c)
Yes. The answer is yes.
Remember, Horde, that part of the case against Cliven Bundy was that he was engaging in fraud by seeking supporters to come to his ranch on the ground that the US government had his ranch surrounded by snipers and cameras.
You know. Like it was.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Shivering whilst hopping all around. at February 02, 2018 02:02 PM (dEQP3)
That's a crime, right?
Posted by: Winston at February 02, 2018 02:02 PM (wgCUV)
"Based on briefings we have received , we have concluded that the Russian intelligence agencies are making a serious and concerted effort to influence the U.S. election," they said. "At the least, this effort is intended to sow doubt about the security of our election and may well be intended to influence the outcomes of the election." They added that "orders for the Russian intelligence agencies to conduct such actions could come only from very senior levels of the Russian government.")
Briefings (plural) from who??? Schiff needs to be testifying to the committee, not sitting on it.
Posted by: Guam Tipper at February 02, 2018 02:02 PM (/DvFd)
They (the media) are using the democrat memo as the thing that would prove all the claims in Nunes' memo are false.
Of course, the democrat memo will be a collection of nothing burgers strung together to appear to be a rebuttal. If anyone leaks or releases it, it will be Nunes and Trump.
Posted by: Jwest at February 02, 2018 02:02 PM (/roJx)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at February 02, 2018 02:02 PM (wGbBR)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:03 PM (/tuJf)
So Rosenstein lied to the Court...
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 02, 2018 02:03 PM (NgKpN)
I'm sorry, but Rick Wilson says this is a big load of nothing, so all of your hard work is for naught.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 02, 2018 02:03 PM (wYseH)
INCLUDING after President Trump was in Office.
Thus every single one of them, bought the same story? independently???
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 02, 2018 01:58 PM (NgKpN)
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Multiple signatories is SOP in the Regulatory State. One guy signing off on all suspect documents is an expendable target. Multiple names on multiple documents means they hang together or they all hang separately.
Posted by: mrp at February 02, 2018 02:03 PM (Pqytn)
https://t.co/VWeWFdPBhR pic.twitter.com/e2JgFvhWvh
- ABC News (@ABC) February 2, 2018
Posted by: Under Fire at February 02, 2018 02:03 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Rose at February 02, 2018 02:03 PM (30UCB)
Why not? Maybe, to spy on a Presidential candidate it would have to be two anonymous phone tips ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 02, 2018 02:03 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:03 PM (/tuJf)
The. Hell. You. Say.
*shocked face*
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Shivering whilst hopping all around. at February 02, 2018 02:03 PM (dEQP3)
I was talking to one of my brother's about this earlier and he repeated that he knew the media were deep in this (as we all knew as well).
He asked "What can we do?" All of this corruption, not just in government, but also in the media.
They mention "other media outlets" in the memo, but we do not know which. We can guess and maybe it's coming in the next releases.
How do we conquer this is what my brother was saying. People need to go to jail.
Comey is firing out tweets to cover his @$$ some more. He lies like silk that guy.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:03 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: zombie
Thank you!!!
Posted by: Cheri at February 02, 2018 02:03 PM (oiNtH)
That's a crime, right?
Grassley sent a criminal referral regarding Steele to the FBI 2 weeks ago for lying.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:04 PM (/tuJf)
Steele DOES NOT EQUAL MI6, you sputtering, bald pimple on the ass of Utah.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 02, 2018 02:04 PM (Boy/L)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 02, 2018 02:04 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 02, 2018 02:04 PM (n+6mJ)
FBI: Yes your honor.
FISA Judge: What are you, like nine years old?
FBI: If you like, your honor.
FISA Judge: OK, warrant approved. I really hate that guy.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 02, 2018 02:04 PM (yZ4A0)
Briefings (plural) from who??? Schiff needs to be testifying to the committee, not sitting on it.
Posted by: Guam Tipper at February 02, 2018 02:02 PM (/DvFd)
And I'll start to worry about Russia meddling on Facebook...
As soon as we disband Air America, which still broadcasts into Russia... funded by the US Taxpayer.
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 02, 2018 02:04 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 02:04 PM (W4xXw)
The courts need to be flushed of Obama nominees. Then the gov agencies.
Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at February 02, 2018 02:04 PM (foYMy)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse Baffled and Bewildered at February 02, 2018 02:05 PM (O+THj)
Anyone who says "yes" to that would seem to have a, let us say, Putinesque understanding of what national security is.
By the way, if you want to see the MSNBC rebuttal to these claims, see AllahPundit's twitter timeline. He's retweeting MSNBC/NBC with vigor.
Posted by Ace at 01:53 PM Comments
No Homo, but this last part of this post brought tears to my eyes. I appreciate your explanation in this post. This ending is why I feel sick to my stomach with rage.
You get it. Our Betters and Overlords dont.
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:05 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 02, 2018 02:05 PM (2FqvZ)
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 02:05 PM (a0IVu)
he said that TODAY.
So super sleuth Sessions must have more secret sauce prepared and all these guys that sound really bad are in on it, 24D chess. And Ryan is out there telling us they are all pure as the driven snow.
just a couple bad apples that made a couple mistakes ... so the Mueller witch hunt continues. So the other shoes to drop better be some pretty big shoes ... or do we need Gowdy to ride in to the rescue?
very strange ...
Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2018 02:06 PM (bT8Z4)
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 02, 2018 02:04 PM (n+6mJ)
Comey... and McCain.... two of the people INVOLVED in the fake document which set this off...
Remember.. it was COMEY's FBI that paid for it too...
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 02, 2018 02:06 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: steevy at February 02, 2018 02:06 PM (LiyEm)
Was some of this information sent up to the Susan Rice level? Did it make it into Presidential Daily Briefings? Did it really have anything at all to do with Russia?
Posted by: Campesino at February 02, 2018 02:06 PM (P2VBB)
FBI: Yes your honor.
FISA Judge: What are you, like nine years old?
FBI: If you like, your honor.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 02, 2018 02:04 PM (yZ4A0)
To be fair, that is the appropriate response.
There are only three possible responses to questions from Your Honor.
Yes, Your Honor.
No, Your Honor.
Yes or no, Your Honor, whichever Your Honor prefers.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Shivering whilst hopping all around. at February 02, 2018 02:06 PM (dEQP3)
he said that TODAY.
So super sleuth Sessions must have more secret sauce prepared and all these guys that sound really bad are in on it, 24D chess. And Ryan is out there telling us they are all pure as the driven snow.
just a couple bad apples that made a couple mistakes ... so the Mueller witch hunt continues. So the other shoes to drop better be some pretty big shoes ... or do we need Gowdy to ride in to the rescue?
very strange ...
Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2018 02:06 PM (bT8Z4)
Uh.... Rosenstein singed the letter to reauthorize this crap, last July....
So HE bought it... and perpetuated it.
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 02, 2018 02:07 PM (NgKpN)
Did the Russians want to fuck with the U.S. elections? Of course. Just like the U.S. fucks with every election in every country on the face of the earth. It helps us if we can disrupt and hopefully influence the outcome of other country's elections.
However, the MSM is trying to conflate this fact with the meme that Russia wanted Trump to win and he "colluded" with them, which is total bullshit.
Posted by: Jwest at February 02, 2018 02:07 PM (/roJx)
Posted by: Tami
So this "rebuttal memo" has not been written already? They are scurrying to come up with a rebuttal to what is a big F'ing deal. Color me shocked.
Posted by: Cheri at February 02, 2018 02:07 PM (oiNtH)
Ya know, the purported basis of all this?
Didn't think so.
And the farce that is Rod "Ron" Rosenstein's "oversight" of Mueller has become too ludicrous, even for today's dumbed-down, Third World America. What are the chances that the always facially implausible baseless claims of "collusion" have been vindicated to any degree? If not, as we know to be the case, WTF is Mueller doing?
And Ignoramus, I remain unable to comprehend the very concept of "perjury trap". If you always tell the same story, and it can't be shown you are deliberately lying, what's a perjury charge based on? Libby was he said/they said - so, really a ridiculous thing, but no "trap" involved - just a travesty of justice by a pernicious prosecutor and stupid jurors.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 02, 2018 02:07 PM (vP09u)
Posted by: steevy at February 02, 2018 02:07 PM (LiyEm)
I prefer the actual quote from Colossians which is beautiful, but since "Rev". Dr Comey seems to spew fake biblical quotes, you might as well have a go at it too. ;^)
I'd call it someone other than Colossians though, maybe Mar-a-Log-ianns.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 02:08 PM (8+Ozj)
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 02:05 PM (a0IVu)
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They dont think this is *nothing*. They THINK quite the opposite.
They SAY it is nothing..... to dismiss it because it damages their preconceived notions.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 02, 2018 02:08 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 02:05 PM (a0IVu)
Because they've known this the entire time and pfffft you losers didn't and you think this is something important as opposed to how the game is really played? Pfffffttt.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Shivering whilst hopping all around. at February 02, 2018 02:08 PM (dEQP3)
Steele's not working for the British Government, is he? We just accept the word of freelance spies?
I know I've been beating this dead horse but I'd be willing to bet that MI6 knew what it's former agent was up to.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 02, 2018 02:08 PM (lKyWE)
If the FISA applications failed to mention who funded Chris Steele research, perhaps they should have. Regardless, it would've been careless of law enforcement to have excluded such alarming national security information from such a trusted source and ally of the United States.
New definition of whore with sick fantasies: trusted source and ally of the US.
Fuck off Egg mc Muffin.
Posted by: Blue Hen at February 02, 2018 02:09 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 02, 2018 02:09 PM (e1mEI)
Not really. This is as much a political battle as it is a legal one. Republicans are going to do their best to pretend that it's not political and they are strictly looking at the law and facts and Democrats will be doing just the opposite, saying this is all about politics.
We really shouldn't be all that surprised when politicians say politically correct things. More important to watch what they do like fight to get a memo released that shows corruption in the Obama DOJ and FBI and corrupt acts that led to the Russia investigation.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:09 PM (/tuJf)
he said that TODAY.
For the life of me, I cannot understand why he is still in his position.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 02, 2018 02:09 PM (i0ykY)
Posted by: The Fusion of FBI and DOJ at February 02, 2018 02:09 PM (2z74n)
But later, when they fired Steele for trying to plant these stories in the media, it must have caused suspicion that Steele had planted the Isikoff story as well."
@seanmdav
Wow. Unmentioned here is that a former Isikoff researcher at NBC, Taylor Sears, worked for Fusion GPS at the time all of this was going down.
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (Enq6K)
Aside from the 2015 case whre DOJ lawyers LIED to Judge Hanen about the DAPA immigration litigation.
And aside from the time the DOJ lawyers lied in the Cliven Bundy/Bureau of Land Management case.
Funny how all of this DOJ lying was going on during the Obama Presidency, when there wasn't a smidgen of corruption?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (MnkFD)
That's it? Dishonest and misleading memo wrecked the House intel committee, destroyed trust with Intelligence Community, damaged relationship with FISA court, and inexcusably exposed classified investigation of an American citizen. For what? DOJ & FBI must keep doing their jobs.
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 01:51 PM (Enq6K)
I'm going to hognap Punxsutawney Phil, drive down to DC, find Comey, and have Phil Groundhog slap this clown until he cries like a little bitch. Then we'll get lunch.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (rdl6o)
The True Believers in the Russian Collusion!! are out there Tweeting and Twatting left and right, trying to refute the memo, downplay, say it's bad for Trump, that Carter Page had a FISA on him since 2013, etc., etc.
This memo won't change any minds. Status Quo: stably unstable.
If Barack F'ing Obama flung himself down in front of Trump right now and groveled for forgiveness, the True Believers would not be thwarted. They'd just keep on hating Trump and pushing Russia Russia Russia.
Posted by: Sphynx at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (OZmbA)
None.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: Jimmy Comey, ethical as fuck at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (fq72/)
Posted by: Adam Schiff's Bulging Eyeball Bot at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (SkuXa)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Obama survivor at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (ylUqT)
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 02, 2018 02:08 PM (lKyWE)
Yep. The British government had a thing for Barky and they went out of their way to help him get elected back in 2008 when Barky was making his totally illegal campaign tour in Europe - which pissed me off to no end, back then.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (8gDQu)
They never talk about actual collusion any more but only of possible obstruction into the investigation into collusion (which never happened). They have abandonded the collusion narrative, without admitting that it is, as Van Jones said, a nothingburger.
Posted by: ace at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (gQuvd)
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: mrp at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: Roland THTG at February 02, 2018 02:11 PM (xBSm0)
Posted by: Tami
So this "rebuttal memo" has not been written already? They are scurrying to come up with a rebuttal to what is a big F'ing deal. Color me shocked.
Posted by: Cheri at February 02, 2018 02:07 PM (oiNtH)
Wait.... to release, they need the President's OK, and he has 5 days to review... even IF they get the votes in committee to release it.
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 02, 2018 02:11 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Toby Flenderson at February 02, 2018 02:11 PM (zV9c4)
Justice is not mentioned once in the New Testament.
Posted by: James Comey, teetering closer to the edge of the abyss at February 02, 2018 02:11 PM (2FqvZ)
Posted by: csmats at February 02, 2018 02:11 PM (X5VFN)
Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at February 02, 2018 02:11 PM (foYMy)
Posted by: steevy at February 02, 2018 02:11 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: The Prophet James Comey at February 02, 2018 02:11 PM (gQuvd)
Posted by: Sphynx at February 02, 2018 02:11 PM (OZmbA)
Looks like it's going to be an early night...
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 02, 2018 02:12 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 02:12 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: sofa saver at February 02, 2018 02:12 PM (4u7kU)
Try running this line of shit with regard to any serial killer or maniac like Manson or Mumia.
The so-called civil libertarians would be apoplectic.
Posted by: Blue Hen at February 02, 2018 02:12 PM (326rv)
I mean, is it par for the course that media will take sides?
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 02, 2018 02:12 PM (iH4Z+)
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at February 02, 2018 02:12 PM (W+vEI)
So many contradictions I don't think she even knows what planet she is on anymore.
Posted by: Exile at February 02, 2018 02:12 PM (Fikbq)
You'll settle for the bold red lettering in Italics.
You'll get the plain black lettering.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 02, 2018 02:13 PM (MnkFD)
Will Marc Elias face bar discipline for knowlingly participating in evading election law?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Obama survivor at February 02, 2018 02:13 PM (ylUqT)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at February 02, 2018 02:13 PM (jsWA8)
Posted by: Guam Tipper at February 02, 2018 02:13 PM (/DvFd)
If I murder someone it would likely be factually correct to say I was "biased" against them. But doesn't tell the whole story.
Posted by: Mega at February 02, 2018 02:13 PM (z5Kce)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 01:53 PM (fiGNd)
Monkeys X Crack = Postings 2rd.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 02, 2018 02:13 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Obama survivor at February 02, 2018 02:10 PM (ylUqT)
Its in the memo... FBI did pay for the memo... just not clear if it was through GPS, or straight to Steal...
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 02, 2018 02:13 PM (NgKpN)
I am amazed there are folks that think this is nothing. Just amazed.
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 02:05 PM (a0IVu)
What we are witnessing is a disturbing threshold for people to truly understand concepts like Freedom, Liberty, Free Speech, etc. They have a shallow definition. They have an arrogant selfish definition that fits their worldview and needs.
Scary stuff. They cannot think outside the box. Or on a higher plane.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:13 PM (fceHP)
Is Comey just talking to himself on Twitter by blocking replies or is anyone responding with a rebuttal?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 02:13 PM (8+Ozj)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2018 02:14 PM (1ISKN)
It's not about changing minds. It's about opening the door to what comes next.
Btw, Carter Page, at the time he was going to Russia, was an ordinary American private citizen. A lot of private citizens visit Russia and most all other countries for business reasons. We are not at war with Russia. It is not a crime to go to Russia and talk to Russians there.
The dems are taking a position which says, in effect, that anyone who ever leaves the country for any reason has surrendered their civil rights and is now subject to government surveillance for the rest of their lives.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2018 02:14 PM (k1TUh)
Hell yes. For a long time, like well over a year.
It wasn't until a group of senior Republicans in Congress realized that it was over and went to tell Nixon that he resigned.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:14 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 02, 2018 02:14 PM (8gDQu)
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Yes, and when will (if at all) the Fusion bank records get a lookover and release?
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 02, 2018 02:14 PM (mQ0Mc)
Posted by: steevy at February 02, 2018 02:14 PM (LiyEm)
______________________________________
I am rubber, you are glue.
Anything you say,
Bounces off me,
And sticks to you!
Posted by: DJT at February 02, 2018 02:15 PM (MnkFD)
Good times.
Posted by: Blue Hen at February 02, 2018 02:15 PM (326rv)
he said that TODAY. "
Yeah, I saw that too, and found it rather disturbing, to say the least.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 02, 2018 02:15 PM (oVWx5)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Obama survivor at February 02, 2018 02:15 PM (ylUqT)
How close did they get to Trump?
Posted by: Eli Cash at February 02, 2018 02:15 PM (a+WIL)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2018 02:15 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at February 02, 2018 02:16 PM (foYMy)
Destroyed many convictions because their vaunted crime labs falsified results.
Let Whitey Bulgar run loose for years.
Recently their HRT killed the hostage in Houston.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 02, 2018 02:16 PM (CvDgu)
.
.
.The FBI paid steele...its in the memo.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 02, 2018 02:16 PM (Vz9Up)
Posted by: Mega at February 02, 2018 02:16 PM (z5Kce)
ah, here it is in one of Kimberely Strassel's previous reports.
In British court documents Mr. Steele has acknowledged he briefed U.S. reporters about the dossier in September 2016. Those briefed included journalists from the New York Times , the Washington Post, Yahoo News and others. Mr. Steele, by his own admission (in an interview with Mother Jones), also gave his dossier in July 2016 to the FBI.
in her wsj piece on Nov 9, 2017
She links this from her Twitter account
Lifting the Steele Curtain
The Fusion GPS dossier was one of the dirtiest political tricks in U.S. history.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:16 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (a0IVu)
No joking, there is a crying need for a map, a chart, an annotated graphic laying out the taxonomy of the Mega-Scandal Swarm.
Unmasking abuse is technically separate from FISA warrant abuse (even though the former used material from the latter). One sweet thing about that aspect is that we know an EO from Obama radically altered the long-standing arrangement on sharing intel take. The combo of that, plus abuse of "minimization" rules = massive scandal about politicized intel/law enforcement.
The DOJ IG apparently will be addressing at least two major component scandals: Espionage Act "investigation" for Clinton/State, and at least some of this "Russia!" DOJ/FBI misbehavior stuff.
There is already a DOJ criminal division review of the Uranium-1 case under way (I think).
This leaves bribery/pay for play as the next major scandal. Uranium-1 is an example of this - might end up being the can opener to the whole sordid disaster.
Federal Records Act crimes (use of unofficial comms channels for official business) loom over all of this, and were known to be prevalent throughout the Obama admin. But there's some confusion about this. Sessions earlier this year cryptically referred, in a way implying it was kosher, to such practices. I do not get this.
This boring law is a key to guvamint accountability, and is the basis for all FOIA action, not to mention criminal investigations (this is what Page and Strzok were talking about, circumventing stored comms channels to conduct nefarious activities without leaving evidence).
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (vP09u)
untrue -- but it is a fraud on the court to conceal from the court the
fact that you now believe you previously told them an untruth.<<<
Anybody who signed off on a FISA renewal is complicit.
Posted by: Fritz at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (2Mnv1)
Posted by: Jeff Sessions at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (MnkFD)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (W4xXw)
Posted by: sofa saver at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (4u7kU)
he said that TODAY. "
Yeah, I saw that too, and found it rather disturbing, to say the least.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 02, 2018 02:15 PM (oVWx5)
Memo? what memoooozzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Posted by: Jeff Sessionzzz at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Tom Servo
Sweet! Fire up the surveillance on the dick sucking dog eater & his beard.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (T0djb)
Is Comey just talking to himself on Twitter by blocking replies or is anyone responding with a rebuttal?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 02:13 PM (8+Ozj)
I don't know. I'm just mesmerized by the idea of Comey being pimp slapped by a groundhog.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (RD7QR)
They're pikers compared to the Wife-Sharers of the #SalonHot25 and the NeverTrump Remnant.
These guys are even further over their skis than MSNBC.
Posted by: ace at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (gQuvd)
he said that TODAY. "
Yeah, I saw that too, and found it rather disturbing, to say the least.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 02, 2018 02:15 PM (oVWx5)
You guys must not follow sports. A sports fan sees the owner compliment the losing coach and knows the coach is gone.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (2FqvZ)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 02, 2018 02:18 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (W4xXw)
No. But I honestly believe we need a younger man to do this job like Trey Gowdy.
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:18 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Tom Servo
How's that reset button coming along Hillary?
Obama, did you have more flexibility after the election?
Posted by: Cheri at February 02, 2018 02:18 PM (oiNtH)
I'd say Obama website donation page that had the verification that it was not a foreign payment allowed the 2008, 2012 elections was used to allow foreign manipulation.
And then there's Hillary's CGI taking foreign money (recall the campaign email where it was confirmed "all foreign money is in") as well as the Saudi prince who said they funded 20% of her campaign (and then recanted a few days later).
Posted by: Lizzy at February 02, 2018 02:19 PM (W+vEI)
And if James Comey were hiding in this stove, would I throw in a lighted match?
Posted by: Christopher Wray at February 02, 2018 02:19 PM (MnkFD)
Posted by: Winston at February 02, 2018 02:19 PM (wgCUV)
Posted by: steevy at February 02, 2018 02:19 PM (LiyEm)
It wasn't until a group of senior Republicans in Congress realized that it was over and went to tell Nixon that he resigned.
...
there are loyalists like Ben Stein who to this day insist that Nixon was wrongly persecuted and that the whole affair was a nothingburger.
Posted by: ace at February 02, 2018 02:19 PM (gQuvd)
Presidential election of OURS came out of Britain, back in 2008, when
one of their rags tried to get Brits to call people in Ohio and swing
the state to Barky.
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Lets not forget O'Bumbles did similarly in the 2014 Israeli elections, trying to rid himself of Netanyahu.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Obama survivor at February 02, 2018 02:19 PM (ylUqT)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:14 PM (/tuJf)
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I keep saying that it will take one.... just ONE to turn and the whole house of cards comes down. Watetrgate happened because one guy turned.
Who is going to be the modern John Dean.
Honest brokers at DOJ need to start indicting these asshole and threaten PMITA prison time.
They will talk. They are pussies. They will turn. The only reason they stuck their necks out this far is they THOUHT the Deep State and the MFM could shield them.
I think we're past that point.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 02, 2018 02:19 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: BIG ALFREDO at February 02, 2018 02:19 PM (iWo0u)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 02, 2018 02:19 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (foYMy)
Posted by: torabora at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (K0z2U)
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (1W9HJ)
Posted by: dagny at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (16bxt)
Then tell them that if it's perfectly acceptable to do this, then Trump's DOJ/FBI/AG will get to work on spying on Oprah and Kamala Harris for 2020.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (i6shs)
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Mega at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (z5Kce)
Hell yes. For a long time, like well over a year.
It wasn't until a group of senior Republicans in Congress realized that it was over and went to tell Nixon that he resigned.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:14 PM (/tuJf)
Thanks. That tells me that though the press is worse now, the taking sides is not a new thing. It'll be up to the more neutral ones, or independent ones, to beat the drum and force the issue. Especially with the resistance.
It is gonna take awhile. Like water dripping on a rock.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (iH4Z+)
____________________________________
FBI/DNC/CNN
Posted by: Echo at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (MnkFD)
Posted by: dagny at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (16bxt)
And NOT Club Fed.
D-Block at San Quentin.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2018 02:21 PM (mbhDw)
Alright, Clancey.
Take the boys and surround the house!
Posted by: Jeff Sessions at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (MnkFD)
It's Clancy sleepy eyes
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 02, 2018 02:21 PM (lKyWE)
And recall this process was just extended as Congress approved the continuation of this apparently reckless, secret Court and coincidentally before this quite profound abuse of Law became publicly known fact. It's as if it was rushed to approval (given the snail's pace we've witnessed for pretty much any/all legislation) to beat the Clinton/FusionGPS dossier expose.
Unless and until the bad actors in the Obama/Clinton cabal, its tentacles of the State, and coordinating Republicans (Hi, McCain) are pursued and prosecuted, the DoJ, the FBI, the IRS, and other alphabet agencies (along with the DNC, of course) simply cannot be trusted and should have some of their power rescinded. Our government and the Deep State are rogue. Until they become accountable, they cannot be trusted and Americans should not defer to their honor or integrity and should cooperate as little as possible with their mission.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2018 02:21 PM (H8S+R)
Dow down 524!
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (Enq6K)
Yeah, see my comment at 199. Am still wondering what is spooking investors into a sell off.
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 02:21 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: dagny at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (16bxt)
And NOT Club Fed.
D-Block at San Quentin.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Gitmo
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2018 02:21 PM (T0djb)
Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says dossier... at February 02, 2018 02:21 PM (vtcmf)
Posted by: Puddin Head at February 02, 2018 02:21 PM (YV+SU)
Comey-Dumpster mocking the Memo is hubris on parade. The next revelation will bring his saggy ass down.
Please GOD.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM (mbhDw)
46 What other absurd euphemisms will they come up with for the next document?
Portfolio?
Affidavit?
Docket?
Directive?
Leaflet?
Epistle?
fixt for PADDLE enablement
Posted by: Anachronda at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 02:13 PM (8+Ozj)
I don't know. I'm just mesmerized by the idea of Comey being pimp slapped by a groundhog.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 02, 2018 02:17 PM (RD7QR)
Strassel responds, linking his tweet.
Kimberley Strassel
Strassel Retweeted James Comey
In which Jim Comey explains how he's good with using Clinton campaign documents to get spying powers, and good with not being straight up with a FISA Court. Good to know that's how some FBI leadership thinks.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM (fceHP)
Hell yes. For a long time, like well over a year.
It wasn't until a group of senior Republicans in Congress realized that it was over and went to tell Nixon that he resigned.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:14 PM
Yes, very true.
Now contrast that with the unwavering and vigorous support of Bill Clinton by the Democrat party.
A. Nixon, himself, did not commit a crime. Resigned in disgrace for the good of the country.
2. Bill Clinton committed multiple, documented, felonies. Lied, fought to the very end, remained in office and continued to do serious harm to the United States.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse Baffled and Bewildered at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM (O+THj)
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM (7uYFy)
He started saying that well, maybe he wasn't as sure about his "source" as he had been.
When you read the jist of the things he included in his dossier, it starts to sound like something that Stephen Glass, Janet Cooke, or Jayson Blair might have written and tried to pass off as truth.
I think Steele is just another Fabulist.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM (uDcBt)
I think Ben Stein has an overdose of estrogen in his system. From one day to the next you never know what he's going to say or what side he's on.
But Nixon did get shiv'd.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM (2FqvZ)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM (F5+ro)
Posted by: J Edgar at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM (4u7kU)
My family was on vacation when Alexander Butterfield revealed that there was taping going on. I remember my father and I sitting in the car on a ferry in order to listen to the Watergate hearings.
I remember thinking, "good! Now he can prove that he's innocent".
So yeah, there were a lot of true believers.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Obama survivor at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM (ylUqT)
Literally everybody has family or knows somebody who has been arrested, harassed, surveillance, tried, and prosecuted and jailed just from the DEA war on drugs using CI's alone.
Every American Citizen this touches.
I fully understand now why PDT threw prison reform in his SOTU.
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:23 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (Enq6K)
Yeah, see my comment at 199. Am still wondering what is spooking investors into a sell off.
Posted by: IC
Someone said earlier- Jobs report. Economy is doing too good. Investors looking towards inflation.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2018 02:23 PM (T0djb)
This is totally different.
Today we have far, far graver abuses being documented, and Dems are denying that the sun rises in the east, and even some GOP saying stupid things (if not THAT stupid).
Things may change in a month or two, when the IG report drops.
But no, the Beltway and the Dems, and to some extent the GOP, are far far different than they were in the early 1970s. Abuses and crimes of this particular nature, documented as they are being documented, in that time period, would have resulted in a Dresden-sized firestorm in the media and on the Hill. Look out your window. That's not what you're seeing.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 02, 2018 02:23 PM (vP09u)
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 02, 2018 02:23 PM (CvDgu)
against Trump that have been deployed to the media (who dutifully
disseminate them to the public) since before Trump was elected.
Now
consider that there were ZERO leaks regarding the House Intelligence
Committee Report (i.e. "the Memo") even though the entire House of Reps
had access to it.
That in itself is utterly damning of the Deep State.
Why wasn't the Memo leaked?
Well,
the Republicans weren't going to leak it because a) that would have
diluted its impact today; and b) if reported that a nameless Republican had leaked it, that would have undermined
GOP credibility regarding protecting classified information and the FISA
process.
The Democrats sure as hell weren't going to leak it because it helps the GOP and Donald Trump.
Obviously the
fifth-columnists in the FBI and DOJ weren't going to leak
it because the Memo exposes their hateful treachery against their President.
However,
this 'failure' to leak information regarding the Memo basically
_PROVES_ that all prior leaks were by avowed enemies of Trump in the DOJ
FBI.
Yes, all of us (conservatives and Trump supporters) have known this obvious fact for a long time.
But now it is _literally_ undeniable. I've already tested it.
When
I asked a liberal friend to explain the discrepancy and how the illegal leaks of classified info can
point to anything else other than the concerted effort within the FBI
and DOJ to undermine the President they are supposed to be serving: she was frustrated that she could not imagine an alternative explanation. She begrudgingly admitted that this must be
what is happening.
And she HATES Trump.
But she also hated admitting that this illegal leaking of classified information was being unjustly weaponized against a sitting President.
Posted by: Cold Civil War at February 02, 2018 02:23 PM (Z2PYk)
So they DID pay him.
Posted by: Jim T at February 02, 2018 02:23 PM (i2Dd+)
Yea, I don't know about that.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:23 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Puddin Head at February 02, 2018 02:23 PM (YV+SU)
Posted by: crrr6 (hotair refugee) at February 02, 2018 02:23 PM (NEmA6)
We've spent the last few weeks being assaulted on all sides by parties - who had seen the memo, btw - telling us it was a danger to national security; a stab at the heart of the public trust; an inflammatory and discriminatory backhanded attack on the good people of the FBI, DOJ, and intelligence community.
But in the end, all this memo has done is verify everything that we've been saying online - here, on Twitter, etc - for the better part of a year. There was nothing new presented (except perhaps the Isikoff tidbit, which was huge) that hadn't already been identified, parsed, digested, reiterated, considered, and debated for months. None of the names used were names we didn't already know; where were these redactions they wanted? Why would you need them? Why would you lobby to have names and/or dates or whatever redacted from this memo, unless all you were trying to do was cover up the gross, decadent, likely criminal incest among the DOJ, media, and Democratic party?
Before this memo was released, all of these theories were just that: theories on the internet, posted by "deplorables" who could be safely ignored as bug-eyed yokels without two teeth to rub together. A shadowy cabal of anti-Trump government officials working in tandem with the Democratic party to undermine the opposition candidate by tearing up the fourth amendment, in a blatant attempt to undermine, usurp and overthrow a duly elected candidate and eventual President? Hah! Conspiracy theories!
But now it's out there, on Congressional letterhead, all nice and official. Every thread that's been connected and knotted online for months is on display, proving that not only was the internet right about everything, but that these people who believe themselves to be so damn smart they were going to win the election for Hillary without even trying are, in fact, dumber than a guy working a full-time job who just happens to use Google for a few hours before bed every night.
They'll keep telling you this is a nothingburger, but it's not. If it was, they wouldn't have tried so HARD to keep it from coming out, because again, it's nothing we don't already know. So you have to ask yourself: WHY? What else are these corrupt turds hiding? When we keep pulling on the threads that have been exposed and laid bare in this memo, what deeper, darker larcenies are we going to uncover? What other "conspiracy theories" are, in fact, 100% true?
I think 2018 is going to be a very, very interesting year.
Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at February 02, 2018 02:23 PM (rP4OC)
Posted by: Hands at February 02, 2018 02:23 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at February 02, 2018 02:24 PM (i6shs)
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 02:21 PM (a0IVu)
____________________________________
Profit taking ahead of the February tax reform measures.
February will not be as good as January was. I had two funds that had 36 percent returns in January. Shifted those gains over to my tax free bonds yesterday.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 02, 2018 02:24 PM (MnkFD)
Once the media hivemind settles on a line of attack on Trump, well, that will no doubt be trending . . .
Posted by: tsj017 at February 02, 2018 02:24 PM (4YUWF)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM (uDcBt)-------------More likely, a paid Russian intelligence asset
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Obama survivor at February 02, 2018 02:24 PM (ylUqT)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 02, 2018 02:24 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Obama survivor at February 02, 2018 02:19 PM (ylUqT)
*****************
Pretty sure he used taxpayer $$$ for that purpose.
Posted by: torabora at February 02, 2018 02:24 PM (K0z2U)
176 As a lawyer you would think Comey understood the Law of Holes.
Posted by: Guam Tipper at February 02, 2018 02:13 PM (/DvFd)
And is it not quoted in Revelations: Dig not, lest ye be buried!
Posted by: Heard at Bible Quoters Anonymous at February 02, 2018 02:24 PM (e1mEI)
Hell yes. For a long time, like well over a year.
It wasn't until a group of senior Republicans in Congress realized that it was over and went to tell Nixon that he resigned.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:14 PM
I was only a kid back then but I watched the hearings, and all I remember was every adult I knew say it was nothing. If I heard the phrase, "It's no big deal. They all do it -- only he got caught " once, I heard it a million times.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 02:24 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM (fceHP)
Comey SIGNED the Letters asking for the Warrant from the FISA court...
Of course he is OK with it.
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 02, 2018 02:24 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 02, 2018 02:24 PM (kUmUV)
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I think this is another one of the reasons the press so desperately wants this story to spun away. How many "stories" are generated by paid opposition research performed by groups like Fusion GPS which are then sent to former colleagues/coworkers in the media for official dissemination?
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 02, 2018 02:24 PM (nu45M)
@seanmdav
Wow. Unmentioned here is that a former Isikoff researcher at NBC, Taylor Sears, worked for Fusion GPS at the time all of this was going down.
I'll say one thing for FusionGPS -- when you pay them to put a political hit on someone, they really go to the mattresses to put that political hit on the target.
incest
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:24 PM (fceHP)
It is gonna take awhile. Like water dripping on a rock.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (iH4Z+)
Was a different world then. There were actually conservative leaning newspapers and Republican reporters.
Posted by: Sphynx at February 02, 2018 02:25 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: garrett at February 02, 2018 02:25 PM (dEW5W)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 02:25 PM (XGrlW)
Dow down 524!
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (Enq6K)
Yeah, see my comment at 199. Am still wondering what is spooking investors into a sell off.
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 02:21 PM (a0IVu)
Same with cryptos which correlates with the memo and PDT going after scalps and 1000 sealed indictments and Marines at GITMO.
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:25 PM (g4lFK)
Burn.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2018 02:25 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: JoeF
#1. This owns the Sunday morning news shows.
#2. NFL viewership is down.
#3. If this memo gets a body count, it will stay front page for a week.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2018 02:25 PM (T0djb)
Yeah, see my comment at 199. Am still wondering what is spooking investors into a sell off.
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 02:21 PM (a0IVu)
____________________________________
Profit taking ahead of the February tax reform measures.
February will not be as good as January was. I had two funds that
had 36 percent returns in January. Shifted those gains over to my tax
free bonds yesterday.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 02, 2018 02:24 PM (MnkFD)
Good time to buy...I can see worries about inflation and investors wanting to take some money off the table now.
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 02:26 PM (a0IVu)
I'll point out again that Obama had the wife of Neil King, a Fusion GPS biggie, working in his personal communications office during this whole period.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:26 PM (/tuJf)
Special Counsel needs investigate and roast Comey alive.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2018 02:26 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Rip Van Sessions at February 02, 2018 02:26 PM (z5Kce)
Oops. His statements are available to us.
I believe Senate Judiciary's criminal referral on Steele is based on his British court testimony contradicting his congressional testimony.
Hilarious, actually.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 02, 2018 02:26 PM (vP09u)
... Jesus "el Jabali" Martinez, in the shower
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
Even kneeling, Comey would be looking at nipples.
Posted by: Sphynx at February 02, 2018 02:26 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2018 02:26 PM (mbhDw)
Bring out the Brazen Bull!!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 02, 2018 02:27 PM (8gDQu)
To note that is to answer the question.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2018 02:27 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Rose at February 02, 2018 02:27 PM (30UCB)
Bill's most damaging legacy was foisting the First Harridan upon us as she rampaged through government. I'll remember Bill for two things: Sexual Assault and Hillaridan, not for stuff like being the First Black President.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2018 02:27 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: garrett at February 02, 2018 02:27 PM (dEW5W)
Posted by: Secretary at Industrial Shredding Corp at February 02, 2018 02:27 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at February 02, 2018 02:27 PM (wGbBR)
I don't know about you guys, but this all makes me sick to my stomach.
There is so much more to come too.
We all knew the rot ran deep and how corrupt Obama, his admin, the Clinton's and the media were, but the enormity of it is dizzying and nauseating.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:27 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (Enq6K)
Yeah, see my comment at 199. Am still wondering what is spooking investors into a sell off.
Posted by: IC
Someone said earlier- Jobs report. Economy is doing too good. Investors looking towards inflation.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2018 02:23 PM (T0djb)
Earlier I saw "higher interest rates" as a reason. That can't be the ONLY reason for a 500+ point loss.
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:27 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 02:27 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at February 02, 2018 02:27 PM (0OmEj)
Posted by: steevy at February 02, 2018 02:27 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2018 02:23 PM (T0djb)
OR... Wall Street 'drills down' into government numbers. Hell we all do it here with polls. When Amazon, UPS, Fedex, retailers, etc let go their seasonal workers... believe it or not... three million people or so lost their jobs this month.
The government 'polishes' those numbers but the underlying facts are what they are.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 02, 2018 02:28 PM (2FqvZ)
The DNC/Clinton Campaign pay for a "dossier" produced by a guy who is financially and emotionally invested in keeping DJT out of the White House
The "dossier", known to be produced by a political campaign, is received by the FBI
The FBI use this unverified "dossier" to get a warrant to tap the phones (essentially) of the opposition Presidential campaign
Even though they "fired" (with cause) the guy who produced the "dossier", and the "dossier" was the ONLY REASON they were able to get the tap warrant, the FBI signed-off on 2 renewals of the wiretap of the opposition candidate who then became President-elect, and continued to spy on his campaign and transition team, knowing the grounds for the surveillance was, to be polite, nonsense.
And we're supposed to believe this is "no big deal", right?
Posted by: DocJ at February 02, 2018 02:28 PM (NYS7S)
flaming skull
FLAMING SKULL
Trump said "I better not get involved" in answer to a question on the NFL.
Unprecedented.
Historic.
Tingle up my leg.
Posted by: ghost of kari - certified sidebar at February 02, 2018 02:28 PM (3ibLU)
Posted by: Chris Steele: Piss Expert at February 02, 2018 02:28 PM (K0z2U)
Wow. Unmentioned here is that a former Isikoff researcher at NBC, Taylor Sears, worked for Fusion GPS at the time all of this was going down.
I'll say one thing for FusionGPS -- when you pay them to put a political hit on someone, they really go to the mattresses to put that political hit on the target.
And THIS is why Fusion fought so damn hard to keep their financial records from being subpoenaed.
How many in the MSM are on their payroll?
We want names.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 02, 2018 02:28 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: steevy at February 02, 2018 02:28 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: muggs at February 02, 2018 02:28 PM (Sk0w5)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 02:25 PM (XGrlW)
He must own a dog.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:28 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: FBI at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (eIQHF)
1. They really believed that Hillary was going to win, so they could do this with impunity.
2. I'm not all that concerned about this instance. Trump will positively prosper from this BS, so it isn't as though he, or anyone else, really suffered. It wasted a lot of money and time, but it's gubment, Jake.
3. I am most concerned that the same group of "law enforcement" people almost certainly did much worse to much smaller people, with even less reason, and probably have crushed them.
4. If at all possible people need to be fired and or jailed and in particular their pensions made forfeit. I'd beggar them if I could.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Commenter at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (NF2Bf)
Good release the whole unvetted file asshole
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (m8J9w)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2018 02:26 PM (mbhDw)
Dead giveaway of a cityboy. Has no clue what burning shit smells like
Posted by: sofa saver at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Puddin Head at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (YV+SU)
Remember, he is recused and doesn't get this information before we do.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (/tuJf)
Huh? This isn't my experience at all.
Am I just lucky? Does this ring true to the horde?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (iv0p7)
=============
A perjury trap may be sprung on you even when you don't lie.
FBI meets with you and gets a detailed version of your events.
FBI meets with other people and gets them to say a version of events that contradicts your version. (leading questions work)
FBI goes to Justice and says target said x. we have five people statements that say y. Justice indicts you for lying to the FBI.
I am not your lawyer and never will be, however, you should never speak to the FBI. Ever. Under any circumstances. Don't even say hi. Give them your lawyers card and walk away. If they put the cuffs on you right there. Shut up.
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (Q/7lj)
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:30 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: JoeF
#1. This owns the Sunday morning news shows.
#2. NFL viewership is down.
#3. If this memo gets a body count, it will stay front page for a week."
Actually I'm starting to think that the memo was suppose to burn out of the news cycle. Sessions says that they are now going to get to the bottom of it so the battle will happen between the WH, the DOJ/FBI moreso behind the scenes.
As far as the memo goes regardless of what Hannity comes on and says. We all new that the previous administration weaponized the justice department so at least for me, I'm not shaken to the core..
Posted by: Drider at February 02, 2018 02:30 PM (HdKKm)
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:27 PM (Enq6K)
At these levels a 500 point loss is pretty much nothing. 2% is regular movement.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 02, 2018 02:30 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: Is it just me? at February 02, 2018 02:30 PM (Q3oNv)
Posted by: dagny at February 02, 2018 02:30 PM (16bxt)
Posted by: garrett at February 02, 2018 02:30 PM (0B5sv)
He does act like quite the fixer sometimes. His latent #NeverTrumpism is never far from the surface.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2018 02:30 PM (H8S+R)
Yea, I don't know about that. "
I think a better argument can be made that Nixon did things that had been SOP for LBJ, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Truman, and FDR, with the complicity of the entire Washington establishment, and was shocked when the rules of the game were suddenly changed, just for him.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2018 02:30 PM (k1TUh)
I finally sat down and read the memo.
To some, they won't see the deep corruption. Many on the left don't believe in laws. And many cannot comprehend the underlying implications.
Plus the MSM will lie at all costs.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:30 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: Jwest at February 02, 2018 02:07 PM (/roJx)
---
And there is of course, zero evidence that the Russians wanted Trump to win. If anything, they were planning for the Hillary Clinton win that they assumed was a sure thing, like so many others in this country assumed was a sure thing.
Of course the Russians would prefer for US President a flabby easily-bribed alcoholic who had a history of selling off the US government every chance she got, to anybody who had the money; and who hates her own country and people and wants to stomp on them. Of course they would.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 02, 2018 02:31 PM (yZ4A0)
Not just the campaign. The spying starts in October 2016, barely before the election, and continues for one year.
Through the transition and nine months of the presidency. Renewed three times. Why? And only on the basis of the dossier and a Yahoo! story?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 02, 2018 02:31 PM (fuK7c)
Huh? This isn't my experience at all.
Am I just lucky? Does this ring true to the horde?
Posted by: bonhomme
Not here.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2018 02:31 PM (T0djb)
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:30 PM (g4lFK)
Nah, it's Friday.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 02:31 PM (7uYFy)
GOP defender numbers shrank, and rhetoric changed, as I noted above, as the evidence was developed. It wasn't ridiculous obstructionist idiocy, as we are seeing today.
Today is the equivalent of being past the Saturday Night Massacre, and the 18-minute gap, and everything else (June '74?), and STILL having GOP vigorously attacking the select committee and dismissing any possibility of serious crimes by Nixon.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 02, 2018 02:31 PM (vP09u)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:31 PM (39g3+)
Remember, he is recused and doesn't get this information before we do.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (/tuJf)
Well, don't keep us in suspense.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 02, 2018 02:31 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Country Boy at February 02, 2018 02:02 PM (7Py7T)
__________________________
The chance to deep six this investigation and the subsequent ones to follow AND to impeach Trump? The Dems will redefine the term VOTER FRAUD in these next midterms.
Posted by: Mr Pragmatic T. Pessimist at February 02, 2018 02:31 PM (6V3Sz)
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM
Give us some credit.
Posted by: GOPe at February 02, 2018 02:31 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: Puddin Head at February 02, 2018 02:31 PM (YV+SU)
Huh? This isn't my experience at all.
Am I just lucky? Does this ring true to the horde?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (iv0p7)
99% of American Citizens have been affected by the war on drugs through a family member or friends the last several decades.
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:31 PM (g4lFK)
I'd like to see a deflated football shoved up Tom Brady's ass and then inflated.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2018 02:32 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: Archer at February 02, 2018 02:32 PM (gbWkA)
Him?! Him?! You're calling me a him?!
That's worse than calling Jackstraw gay.
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:32 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:32 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2018 02:30 PM (k1TUh)
Bingo.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 02:32 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: steevy at February 02, 2018 02:32 PM (LiyEm)
First, the process for obtaining a FISA warrant requires review at multiple levels of the FBI and DOJ, including the very highest levels which must sign off.
Second, this all happened in the context of the Obama's white house expanding access to information collected under a FISA wiretap.
This was an obscene breach of the FISA process. If I were on the FISA Court, there would be hell to pay.
Posted by: rbattman at February 02, 2018 02:32 PM (GP98q)
Posted by: Lester at February 02, 2018 02:33 PM (LfJIn)
This is what's incomprehensible. Renewals of warrants *after* the inauguration, including with Rosenstein's signatures on affidavits?? WTF??
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 02, 2018 02:33 PM (vP09u)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 02, 2018 02:33 PM (CPk08)
Clinton's and the media were, but the enormity of it is dizzying and
nauseating.
Heh. You'll never know how bad it really is.
Posted by: Disgraced Ex-Prez'nit Toonces at February 02, 2018 02:33 PM (vtcmf)
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 02:22 PM
Just in time for Memo #2!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:33 PM (fceHP)
Ask Randy Weaver. You can't ask Levoy Finicum or the Branch Dividians anymore.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 02:33 PM (XGrlW)
Posted by: Puddin Head at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (YV+SU)
Uh.... he signed the letter to reauthorize the wiretap last July... that is AFTER the President was in Office.
If he is so honorable... how does that track?
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 02, 2018 02:33 PM (NgKpN)
Pretty anodyne. Good people at the DOJ but if there is evidence of wrongdoing we will take action.
In the real world, its common to actually finish and investigation and develop actual evidence before their are indictments.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:33 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:33 PM (g4lFK)
Not I. I suspect most people are not in this boat, but some are very much so; that is, if you have any connection to someone busted for drugs, you know many people who were. Skewing the average, as it were.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:33 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 02:25 PM (XGrlW)
Pretty sure Stirewalt was petitioning NYC on mandatory 4' doors on gloryholes.
Posted by: sofa saver at February 02, 2018 02:34 PM (4u7kU)
The spying starts in October 2016, barely before the election, and continues for one year.
-------
*snort*
..... and Cankles STILL lost .....
Bwahahahahahaahhahahahahahaha
Posted by: fixerupper at February 02, 2018 02:34 PM (8XRCm)
Also it is not new news for those of us who have been following this. We have known for months that the FISA warrant was based on this vulgar doosier and that it was paid for by The FAB and the left and that the Higher ups at Justice and FBI were in on it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2018 02:34 PM (m8J9w)
Not ONE denial or proffered correction of facts as stated in the Memo. It's all ad hominem wanking to this point.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 02, 2018 02:34 PM (Boy/L)
Bonds rally on lower interest rates.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 02, 2018 02:34 PM (8gDQu)
I'd like to see a deflated football shoved up Tom Brady's ass and then inflated.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2018 02:32 PM (k1TUh)
Me too!
Posted by: Shep at February 02, 2018 02:34 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Some dope at February 02, 2018 02:34 PM (nunBU)
I've been through a lot of periods of prosperity, and more recessions than I care to remember. A slow gradual incline is less risky than seeing an overheated market.
Pull-backs are good.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 02, 2018 02:35 PM (2FqvZ)
Posted by: Mac at February 02, 2018 02:35 PM (fOoQ8)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 02, 2018 02:35 PM (fA1SL)
authorized, but maybe they never paid them. I think "we" knew it was authorized, actual payment may not have gone through. But that still shows intent.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2018 02:35 PM (bT8Z4)
Posted by: Lester at February 02, 2018 02:33 PM (LfJIn)
That pretty well describes the DNC, the Democrats in Congress, and TFG and his lovely sasquatch bride.
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 02, 2018 02:35 PM (7UW64)
Ask Randy Weaver. You can't ask Levoy Finicum or the Branch Dividians anymore.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 02:33 PM (XGrlW
No knock raids and dead dogs.
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:36 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Some dope at February 02, 2018 02:34 PM (nunBU)
The Judge is not really the major issue. If he or she did not have the facts upon what the Fisa Warrant request was based, they are "less" culpuble
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2018 02:36 PM (m8J9w)
This is tough to do, with the target needing to be ignorant of their impending investigation. So you'd need a sort of "devil's advocate," someone who stands in the place of the other side and tries to find problems with the warrant and argues the defense.
Clearly that's a pretty major gap, particularly given our system of justice for like 500 years of tradition and history.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:36 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Weird Al Sharpton at February 02, 2018 02:36 PM (ctuyM)
Always applies - but especially when we've been in a ridiculous, destructive artificially low interest rate environment for nearly a decade.
So, note that - the economic numbers are spectacular (and recall yesterday a Fed regional bank forecast FIVE-POINT-FOUR GDP growth - a number not seen since ..... the mid 90s??).
"Anyone not pushing the panic button over the mid-terms is not paying attention" (heh)
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 02, 2018 02:36 PM (vP09u)
Has anybody in the govt said "we now know this, so we are moving forward with indictments" or is it just "this is just terrible, terrible I say"?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 02, 2018 02:36 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at February 02, 2018 02:36 PM (foYMy)
Am I just lucky? Does this ring true to the horde?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (iv0p7)
Hasn't been my experience either.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 02, 2018 02:36 PM (iH4Z+)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2018 02:32 PM (k1TUh)
I like Tom Brady. Sure he's annoying, but he's a damn good player. But I'm a NY Giants fan, so I can afford to be nice.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 02:36 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: rbattman at February 02, 2018 02:32 PM
Depending on WHO the FISC judges are that were cherry picked in rotationto present this crap to and who appointed them as judges are probably in on the scheme.
Posted by: Lester at February 02, 2018 02:37 PM (LfJIn)
Posted by: rbattman
Judges used to take a dim view on being lied to.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2018 02:37 PM (T0djb)
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 02, 2018 02:35 PM (7UW64)
Hey! Don't get personal, OK?
Posted by: A sasquatch at February 02, 2018 02:37 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Some dope at February 02, 2018 02:34 PM (nunBU)
Surf's up
Posted by: living large in HI at February 02, 2018 02:37 PM (4u7kU)
If the roots are strong, and the soil is good, there will always be growth in the garden.
Posted by: Chauncey Gardener at February 02, 2018 02:37 PM (ATVNj)
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (Enq6K)
Yeah, see my comment at 199. Am still wondering what is spooking investors into a sell off
========
a lot of people in DC are liquidating portfolios because they are going to have to pay some expensive lawyers soon.
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 02:37 PM (FJvO+)
Posted by: Jwest at February 02, 2018 02:37 PM (/roJx)
Posted by: Disgraced Ex-Prez'nit Toonces at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (vtcmf)
It's only transparent bullshit to a normal human being. To a kink, it's totally believable.
This is how projection works. The more insane the accusation, the more likely the accuser is a practitioner.
Posted by: JSchuler at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (YsGL+)
Posted by: Mac at February 02, 2018 02:35 PM (fOoQ
The whole "head" in many deep state departments is rotten to the core and needs to be cut off....and then we gut the body of any and all diseased parts...but hey that's just how I feel
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (m8J9w)
Posted by: Brian at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (K84+K)
The latest attacks on the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests - no party's, no president's, only Putin's.
I've never rooted so hard for a tumor before in all my life.
#FOAD McCain
Posted by: DocJ at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (NYS7S)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Parker at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (ZfzDM)
Am I just lucky? Does this ring true to the horde?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (iv0p7)
Hasn't been my experience either."
See??? WHITE PRIVILEGE! Dat's what I be talking about!!!
Posted by: Jay Z at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, who had a B-Wing, and called it Brad. at February 02, 2018 02:39 PM (3/HOt)
Posted by: rammajamma at February 02, 2018 02:39 PM (MCpv7)
Posted by: Some dope at February 02, 2018 02:34 PM (nunBU)
The Judge is not really the major issue. If he or she did not have the facts upon what the Fisa Warrant request was based, they are "less" culpuble
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2018 02:36 PM (m8J9w)
I have to disagree... this was done FOUR times, even after the President was in office...
Even after much of this was ALREADY in the news...
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 02, 2018 02:39 PM (NgKpN)
It's like JournOList 3.0. The MFM has a sister industry of Advocacy, so those who don't make it to MFM can still produce a product and get paid without the trappings of posing as non-biased independents.
If it's from the MFM, it's wrong. Or dishonest. Or both. That is a contemporary truism.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2018 02:39 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2018 02:36 PM (m8J9w)
As I said from the very beginning of this, I'd bet my bottom dollar the FISA judge was in on this and needs to be prosecuted with the rest of the America-haters.
FISA judges are not just clueless doorknobs. They have a serious responsibility to interview the agencies and ascertain what they are being asked to sign. When it comes to signing a warrant to surveil a Presidential candidate (or part of his campaign) then the FISA judge has some serious work to do on his part before he unleashes the FBI to spy the shit out of the Presidential campaign.
This FISA judge is as dirty as the rest of them. Of this, I have no doubt, whatsoever.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 02, 2018 02:39 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (QQ+il)
No, Page and Plant were in Led Zeppelin.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 02:39 PM (7uYFy)
Pull-backs are good.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 02, 2018 02:35 PM (2FqvZ)
I agree. It needed a correction. It was making me nervous.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 02, 2018 02:39 PM (iH4Z+)
Posted by: The Fusion of DNC, FBI, and DOJ at February 02, 2018 02:39 PM (2z74n)
Posted by: GEICO at February 02, 2018 02:39 PM (z5Kce)
Well, I just have to laugh.
Posted by: Zombie Kim Philby at February 02, 2018 02:39 PM (vtcmf)
Remember Dinesh d'souza's film America? in it he puts forth the idea that the Dems have a street con morality: never give up the con, never give up the con, never give up the con.
Posted by: Axeman at February 02, 2018 02:40 PM (JhE5a)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at February 02, 2018 02:40 PM (UC4QC)
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2018 02:37 PM (T0djb)
Honest judges still do!
Posted by: Hrothgarevitch BOT at February 02, 2018 02:40 PM (gwPgz)
Posted by: Noah Bawdy at February 02, 2018 02:40 PM (DeYoP)
I am the one percent!
Seriously though, how badly does that 99% figure reek, given you pulled it from deep within your butt?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 02:40 PM (iv0p7)
We all knew the rot ran deep and how corrupt Obama, his admin, the
Clinton's and the media were, but the enormity of it is dizzying and
nauseating.
Heh. You'll never know how bad it really is.
Maybe someone can write a dossier about it? Use that it get a warrant...oh wait.
Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at February 02, 2018 02:40 PM (foYMy)
Don't think so but I'm not as sure about Manafort.
Simpson and his wife had been investigating him for a long time and then he magically shows up on Trump's campaign working for free no less.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:41 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 02, 2018 02:41 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2018 02:36 PM (m8J9w)
The judge, any judge, who has half a brain (and I realize that fact is not in evidence) should have seen the dossier as the bit of trash it is, and known that acting upon such vulgar and obviously ridiculous "intelligence" would be tantamount to career suicide.
Being lied to is the least of the issues. How anyone could believe that tripe on the face of it astounds me.
Was this judged shopped?
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 02, 2018 02:41 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: rammajamma at February 02, 2018 02:39 PM (MCpv7)
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Not even one whole Fibonacci.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 02, 2018 02:41 PM (8XRCm)
Am I just lucky? Does this ring true to the horde?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 02:29 PM (iv0p7)
Hasn't been my experience either."
See??? WHITE PRIVILEGE! Dat's what I be talking about!!!
Posted by: Jay Z at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (k1TUh)
We has our White Amulet of Privilege.
I made a little shrine for mine.
Posted by: Professor Disarray, Gumdrop Gorilla Channel at February 02, 2018 02:41 PM (iH4Z+)
Posted by: Puddin Head at February 02, 2018 02:31 PM (YV+SU)
So I should buy Zimbabwe Government Bonds? Do they they pay off big time?
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 02, 2018 02:41 PM (e1mEI)
Posted by: Mega at February 02, 2018 02:41 PM (z5Kce)
Twenty-five times I predicted the last five recessions. That's a helluva track record.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 02, 2018 02:42 PM (2FqvZ)
Time should tell.
Meanwhile, breathlessly awaiting Dem "rebuttal" memo, and commentary from the clueless such as AP, that somehow manage to change the known uncontested facts that DOJ/FBI abused the FISA process.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 02, 2018 02:42 PM (vP09u)
I love how people act like every other team in football wasn't doing this and other stuff like it. When it came out, there were reports of how it was done on other teams but those got buried pretty fast.
News flash: they all cheat. The Patriots just got busted. if you think every team in the freaking league isn't using binoculars and hiring hackers to get info on plays, you're an even bigger sucker than people who buy carbon offsets.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:42 PM (39g3+)
What a bitter and nasty old twat John McCain is. A globalist slime who
hates our President far more than he cares about integrity in our
government. What a contemptible wretch he is.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at February 02, 2018 02:40 PM (UC4QC)
I'm on it.
Posted by: The Grim Reaper at February 02, 2018 02:42 PM (AkTSb)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 02, 2018 02:39 PM (8gDQu)
Wouldn't it be great if a judge popped up and said that he was the FISA judge who issued the first approval, but now that he knows the stuff in the memo, he wouldn't have done it.
Posted by: Jwest at February 02, 2018 02:42 PM (/roJx)
Posted by: Brian at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (K84+K)
And the last time that 'finding' was signed by Rosenstein... and Dep Director McCabe.... that would be in July, well after questions about the dossier were already in the NEWS.
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 02, 2018 02:42 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (QQ+il)
To the best of my knowledge Page never did anything remotely wrong. has not been accused of doing anything wrong by anyone that matters and was just caught up in a web since he took a pretty innocent trip to Russia
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2018 02:43 PM (m8J9w)
Posted by: golfman at February 02, 2018 02:43 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: davidt at February 02, 2018 02:43 PM (Vl5bQ)
Posted by: Flowerbelle at February 02, 2018 02:43 PM (AkAvN)
Posted by: puh-puh-puh-porky-pig at February 02, 2018 02:43 PM (/DvFd)
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (Enq6K)
Yeah, see my comment at 199. Am still wondering what is spooking investors into a sell off
========
a lot of people in DC are liquidating portfolios because they are going to have to pay some expensive lawyers soon.
We've been due for a correction. This is probably healthy for the market, long term.
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 02, 2018 02:43 PM (2WfB0)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 02, 2018 02:43 PM (rMpy/)
Posted by: Rod Rosenstein at February 02, 2018 02:44 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: tcn in AK at February 02, 2018 02:41 PM (7UW64)
When something like 99.4% of FISA applications were approved, why bother? It seems like the only thing the judges looked at was the size of the pile of paper presented.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 02, 2018 02:44 PM (2FqvZ)
What we are doing on a regular basis is obviously illegal and unethical, we do not want that getting out!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 02, 2018 02:44 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 02, 2018 02:44 PM (ymnmz)
Posted by: Mega at February 02, 2018 02:44 PM (z5Kce)
I think this is right.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:44 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: fixerupper
The Fibonacci Maru? The cheaper Italian version?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2018 02:44 PM (T0djb)
If he is so honorable... how does that track? Posted by: Don Q'Bot
I can't reconcile the support for Rosenstein/Mueller after the memo. Sessions seems to go out of his way to actually PRAISE Rosenstein today. So that is not neutral while whole thing is under investigation.
If it is all a ploy/sting to catch the whole enchilada (deep state mafia and their minions) ... OK, I guess the OIG has been on that, maybe since Grassley pushed to reinstate IG powers back in 2015.
BUT it seems like a long time to let Mueller wreak havoc on persons, and more importantly on public opinion.
There are a lot of fish to fry, so maybe luring them into the giant trap is all part of the plan, and with the Obama damage it took time to rebuild the white hat network, idk.
The memo WAS released ... so we got that going for us. tick tock ... a memo a day keeps the tyrants at bay? But at some point the trap should spring shut.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2018 02:45 PM (bT8Z4)
No, in fact he was a very unlikely man to have ever gotten involved in this. He appears to have always been hard at work at trying to get some kind of job in government, but never very successfully. Apparently he spoke Russian, and at one point he had written some manifesto about his views on Energy Development, which he used to hand out the way a Jehovah's Witness hands out copies of the Watchtower. He got himself booked at an energy conference in Moscow as part of his campaign for employment, and supposedly there are records (intercepts) of some Russian agents who considered recruiting him, but who ended up (and this is on the transcripts) deciding that he was too dumb to ever be of any use to anyone as a spy. He then got a minor job in Trump's campaign, but because he was always trying to promote himself, he got fired from that too.
I always felt kind of sorry for him, having to sit there with that kind of info being published for the world to see.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2018 02:45 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 02, 2018 02:45 PM (r+sAi)
Some of the dossier is absurd like a germophobe being in Russia to get wee'd on by hookers. Other parts are more plausible and getting a warrant does not require remotely near the level of proof or evidence that, say, even an indictment does.
I'm not saying I'd have okayed it or that the judges are not problematic, just that its not as outrageous as you might think.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:45 PM (39g3+)
The latest attacks on the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests - no party's, no president's, only Putin's.
I've never rooted so hard for a tumor before in all my life.
#FOAD McCain
Posted by: DocJ at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (NYS7S)
His tumor seems to be like Hyman Roth's heart condition.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 02, 2018 02:45 PM (mbhDw)
This was an obscene breach of the FISA process. If I were on the FISA Court, there would be hell to pay.
Posted by: rbattman
Judges used to take a dim view on being lied to.
.
.
.I suspect that the Judge who granted the warrant wanted to be lied to. That or he was sniffing glue that day and did not perform his required due diligence in his questioning of the person who presented this sworn Warrant application.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 02, 2018 02:45 PM (+Dllb)
Posted by: Hands at February 02, 2018 02:46 PM (EzdLW)
Wouldn't it be great if a judge popped up and said that he was the FISA judge who issued the first approval, but now that he knows the stuff in the memo, he wouldn't have done it.
Posted by: Jwest at February 02, 2018 02:42 PM (/roJx)
I wouldn't believe him. He would just be trying to cover his ass.
How could any judge loose the FBI on a Presidential campaign without having the deepest, most intimate knowledge of the allegations he is supposed to be basing his warrant on?
No. There is absolutely no friggin way that any honest FISA judge would have even considered signing off on a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign given the bullshit "evidence" they had. No way.
The FISA judge (all involved on the FISA court) is part of the conspiracy.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 02, 2018 02:46 PM (8gDQu)
Bing "pear of anguish". Then marvel at how horrible man can be to his fellow man.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 02:47 PM (iv0p7)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 02, 2018 02:43 PM (2WfB0)
It was just a correction looking for a reason and it found one
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2018 02:47 PM (m8J9w)
I'm curious how many ordinary warrants are turned down by judges for cops. I mean, say, NYPD, how often do they have a warrant denied?
But Ace brings up a really good point here that's being kind of ignored, and I think its the key to all this:
Nobody speaks for the defense in these warrant hearings. Ever. Its all the prosecutor. The judges are allegedly supposed to be skeptical and cautious about rights, but maybe its time some sort of devil's advocate was present to present the other side? Cast some doubt?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:47 PM (39g3+)
Cankles, Jug Ears, FBI Managment are criminally implicated.
Posted by: Archer at February 02, 2018 02:47 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at February 02, 2018 02:44 PM (ymnmz)
They'll say "We weren't. We were monitoring Carter Page - a dangerous man with Russian ties. Trump just got in the way'"
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 02:48 PM (XGrlW)
information source, they were just doing intelligence work as a
mercenary, a freelance spy organization. The raw information in and of
its self doesn't really do anything... it took a willful and complicit
Obama administration acting like Nixon squared (Nixon²?) digging into
their political opponent and incoming president to make it really
corrupt and illegal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:31 PM (39g3+)
Fusion GPS was not doing intelligence work of any kind. They were simply making shit up. Full stop.
Posted by: Ellen deGeneres, tweaking the at February 02, 2018 02:48 PM (Dbv1R)
I'm not saying I'd have okayed it or that the judges are not problematic, just that its not as outrageous as you might think.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:45 PM (39g3+)
We're not talking about getting a standard warrant to illegally spy on Joe Schmo. We're talking about tapping the phones of a running Presidential candidate.
It boggles the mind that any judge would even contemplate allowing that sort of shit.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 02, 2018 02:48 PM (8gDQu)
The latest attacks on the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests - no party's, no president's, only Putin's.
How long does it take to dictate a tweet when all you can do is blink?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2018 02:48 PM (QQ+il)
The memo WAS released ... so we got that going for us. tick tock ... a memo a day keeps the tyrants at bay? But at some point the trap should spring shut.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2018 02:45 PM (bT8Z4)
There are two reasons that the Government runs 'investigations'...
One, is to find actual wrongdoing...
Another, is to be able to say, 'we are investigating, so we can't talk about it'...
Some investigations, like the Clinton Email investigation... is a play for time... a tactic they use to 'hope' the whole situation dies down...
Posted by: Don Q'Bot at February 02, 2018 02:49 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:20 PM (Enq6K)
Yeah, see my comment at 199. Am still wondering what is spooking investors into a sell off
========
a lot of people in DC are liquidating portfolios because they are going to have to pay some expensive lawyers soon.
We've been due for a correction. This is probably healthy for the market, long term.
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 02, 2018 02:43 PM (2WfB0)
"Constitutional Crisis"
even though the left are screaming how this is a nothingburger, but didn't want it released...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:49 PM (fceHP)
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Theme Song for today
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Judas Priest - Heads are Gonna Roll
Posted by: MISHBOT at February 02, 2018 02:49 PM (y3aQB)
I am the one percent!
Seriously though, how badly does that 99% figure reek, given you pulled it from deep within your butt?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 02:40 PM (iv0p7)
Based on the number of arrests and warrants just for pot each year for the last several decades.
This goes beyond FISA to warrants in general.
sorry you have the privilege of not knowing a sole who has a misdemeanor for pot.
for your information they take the small ones for pot and pay them with relief from larger charges to squeal on anybody acting as a IC.
That's how it's done and has been since the 1980's.
It destroys lives. End of story.
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:49 PM (g4lFK)
I'm not really sure what they can do about it. Its a temporary position, they only look at FISA requests, they have no real power over anything else or afterward to take action.
I mean, I guess they could go talk to the press, but the press is incredibly hostile to that idea, and the judges don't want to show up looking like credulous dunces.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:49 PM (39g3+)
Now the question is... can charges be levied against a British National (and not RussiaBots) who tried to subvert an American election?
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2018 02:49 PM (H8S+R)
Posted by: Mega at February 02, 2018 02:49 PM (z5Kce)
Posted by: x at February 02, 2018 02:49 PM (nFwvY)
It was corroborated in Yahoo news.
Yahoo. News.
That's like the gold standard, baby.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 02:49 PM (iv0p7)
I hope Rand Paul does something to fix this.
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 02, 2018 02:49 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: MAGA at February 02, 2018 02:49 PM (QLkHi)
I've also seen a slightly worrisome little drop in the Dow on a Friday afternoon and Monday morning the carnage begins as people run away in droves.
It's kinda been too much, too soon.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 02, 2018 02:50 PM (2FqvZ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (QQ+il)
No, Page and Plant were in Led Zeppelin.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 02:39 PM (7uYFy)
_______________________________________
Outstanding. Well done.
For our next act, we will have "Who's On Stage", a rock-based variation of Abbott and Costello's "Who's On First."
Who's On Stage?
That's Right
Who?
Right.
Yes. Who's Next?
Yes, they're playing Who's Next.
Yes is playing?
No, Who is playing.
That's what I want to know.
No Yes?
Right, Yes is who's next.
Who's Next.
Listen, Who is now, and Yes is who is next.
I'm confused about the band?
The Band? Oh, they're not playing yet.
Posted by: Chauncey Gardener at February 02, 2018 02:50 PM (ATVNj)
The latest attacks on the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests - no party's, no president's, only Putin's.
How long does it take to dictate a tweet when all you can do is blink?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2018 02:48 PM (QQ+il)
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEP.
Posted by: Capt. Christopher Pike at February 02, 2018 02:50 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Archer at February 02, 2018 02:50 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2018 02:48 PM (QQ+il)
lol
I shouldn't laugh, but I can't help it.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:50 PM (fceHP)
In this case, not only does the FBI qualify as a reasonable person but as an expert which makes it even more evident of their fraudulent actions.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2018 02:50 PM (0XyIg)
I really hope Trump, Nunes, and Grassley are playing a long game.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 02, 2018 02:50 PM (Ax5Cx)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 02, 2018 02:50 PM (hyuyC)
412 I'd like to see a deflated football shoved up Tom Brady's ass and then inflated.
I love how people act like every other team in football wasn't doing this and other stuff like it. When it came out, there were reports of how it was done on other teams but those got buried pretty fast.
News flash: they all cheat. The Patriots just got busted. if you think every team in the freaking league isn't using binoculars and hiring hackers to get info on plays, you're an even bigger sucker than people who buy carbon offsets.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:42 PM (39g3+)
Think conspiracy out to its conclusion. League actions against the Patriots are cover for Goodell-Kraft conspiring to get The Patriots to the Superbowl.
Remember, what you suspect is only a tenth of what goes on.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 02, 2018 02:50 PM (e1mEI)
Posted by: rbattman
Judges used to take a dim view on being lied to.
.
.
.I suspect that the Judge who granted the warrant wanted to be lied to. That or he was sniffing glue that day and did not perform his required due diligence in his questioning of the person who presented this sworn Warrant application.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 02, 2018 02:45 PM (+Dllb)
Not lies per se.... just a higher truth!
Posted by: Hawaiin Judge at February 02, 2018 02:51 PM (NgKpN)
Judge Contreras, the judge who was overseeing the Flynn case and took his plea, was recused before he was able to preside over the sentencing. He is also a FISA judge.
And yesterday Mueller filed for a 90 day extension before the sentencing phase for Flynn.
Very curious.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 02, 2018 02:51 PM (/tuJf)
I'm curious how many ordinary warrants are turned down by judges for cops. I mean, say, NYPD, how often do they have a warrant denied?
But Ace brings up a really good point here that's being kind of ignored, and I think its the key to all this:
Nobody speaks for the defense in these warrant hearings. Ever. Its all the prosecutor. The judges are allegedly supposed to be skeptical and cautious about rights, but maybe its time some sort of devil's advocate was present to present the other side? Cast some doubt?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:47 PM (39g3+)
Exactky. Think local DEA. And every other agency with law enforcement powers.
Oh public school teachers are literally like COD agents. Did y'all know this because they are.
It's huge. People need to grasp just how large this is or nothing will change.
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:51 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 02, 2018 02:51 PM (z79tQ)
Um, at least part of intelligence work is to make up stuff. Like "Hitler has only one testicle."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:51 PM (39g3+)
Do we know how much contact Page had with the Trump campaign October 2016 on?
Isn't that the time frame here?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 02:52 PM (iv0p7)
Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at February 02, 2018 02:52 PM (foYMy)
The FISA judge (all involved on the FISA court) is part of the conspiracy.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 02, 2018 02:46 PM (8gDQu)
I think Ace's point is on target here. The FBI hid the problems with the dossier to make the "evidence" seem dependable.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 02, 2018 02:52 PM (fCsNX)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 02, 2018 02:52 PM (Ax5Cx)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 02, 2018 02:52 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:52 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: Mega at February 02, 2018 02:53 PM (z5Kce)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2018 02:32 PM (k1TUh)
So, you've been reading Gizelle's diary again?
Posted by: Hillary at February 02, 2018 02:53 PM (UsCnO)
Even the sanctuary cities still flourish, nothing changes, so he hasn't done a hell of a lot. And don't give me the "you can't expect it to be tied up in a bow in an hour like TV" shit. He's awol at best
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 02:53 PM (5gaNQ)
Posted by: Adam Schiff's Bulging Eyeball Bot at February 02, 2018 02:53 PM (SkuXa)
Is that the one about smuggling arms from Libya to ISIS and McCain's numbered Swiss accounts?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2018 02:53 PM (QQ+il)
BREAKING: Wray's New Pick for FBI General Counsel Signed Tainted FISA Warrant Application While Acting Attorney General
It's Dana Boente
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:54 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2018 02:54 PM (RMZg6)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 02, 2018 02:54 PM (CPk08)
No. There is absolutely no friggin way that any honest FISA judge would have even considered signing off on a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign given the bullshit "evidence" they had. No way.
The FISA judge (all involved on the FISA court) is part of the conspiracy
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I believe the first time the went in with the request, without the Pee PEE party, it was denied. In that case, then, your logic doesn't flow. Said judge would not grant with less. but did grant with more. As bizarre as pee party sounded, it was vouched for by JAMES Frickin BOND. And they got their warrant.
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 02:54 PM (4xBQU)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 02, 2018 02:51 PM (z79tQ)
Chrome suddenly started freaking on some scripts here. Makes the page look like crap.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 02, 2018 02:54 PM (fCsNX)
Posted by: George LeS at February 02, 2018 02:54 PM (+TcCF)
Tom Fitton was on Fox earlier.
He gave Ryan a little whoopin' for saying this wasn't connected to the Mueller investigation.
He said "Did Ryan read the memo?" with a /s tone
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:54 PM (fceHP)
through a family member or friends the last several decades.
I am the one percent!
Seriously though, how badly does that 99% figure reek, given you pulled it from deep within your butt?
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 02:40 PM (iv0p7)
Based on the number of arrests and warrants just for pot each year for the last several decades.
This goes beyond FISA to warrants in general.
sorry you have the privilege of not knowing a sole who has a misdemeanor for pot.
for your information they take the small ones for pot and pay them
with relief from larger charges to squeal on anybody acting as a IC.
That's how it's done and has been since the 1980's.
It destroys lives. End of story.
.
.
.60 years old here and have not had a single member of my rather large family arrested for any drug offenses. Bunch of DUI's but never any drug arrests.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (+Dllb)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: R Rosenstein at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (4u7kU)
Was it the same judge?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (QQ+il)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQSPQaqrIiQ
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Theme Song for today
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Judas Priest - Heads are Gonna Roll
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Downing Pool -Let the bodies hit the floor.
Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (foYMy)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (5gaNQ)
Posted by: Under Fire at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (XGrlW)
It's Dana Boente
===============
See this is why you leave them in place. They identify the rot for you by promoting their co conspirators. Would be hilarious if it were a Cohen brothers movie.
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (+WJk6)
BREAKING: Wray's New Pick for FBI General Counsel Signed Tainted FISA Warrant Application While Acting Attorney General
It's Dana Boente
Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2018 02:54 PM (Enq6K)
eh? He's named in the memo...
wth
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:56 PM (fceHP)
I do not see how they restore FBI credibility without doing that.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 02, 2018 02:56 PM (RMZg6)
Posted by: McCain, Comey, Obama, Schiff, Mueller at February 02, 2018 02:56 PM (ATVNj)
Most of those are repeat offenders.......
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 02, 2018 02:56 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (+Dllb)
No friends with family members. Because that was part of the equation.
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:56 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In
I think we might get yelled at; and I'm worried we're going to get a girl-on-girl-on-girl sexytimes pic with Lena, Amy, and Yoko.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 02, 2018 02:56 PM (6FqZa)
Isn't there anyone who doesn't pad their resume??
Posted by: R Rosenstein at February 02, 2018 02:57 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 02, 2018 02:57 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 02:53 PM (5gaNQ)
Yep... Sessions could stop the sanctuary city crap by just sending them a copy of the Law against Aiding and Abetting Illegals...
Which makes it a FELONY to make official statements which encourage illegals to come, or stay, in the US.
Posted by: Don Q. at February 02, 2018 02:57 PM (NgKpN)
McCain will be mentioned in Memo#3
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:52 PM (fceHP)
As "that guy who drooled a lot."
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 02, 2018 02:57 PM (RD7QR)
The latest attacks on the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests - no party's, no president's, only Putin's.
I've never rooted so hard for a tumor before in all my life.
#FOAD McCain
Posted by: DocJ at February 02, 2018 02:38 PM (NYS7S)
I think we have a new dictionary illustration for "chutzpah".
Posted by: rickl at February 02, 2018 02:57 PM (xjiRE)
Flake says Trump is irresponsible for releasing memo against the advice of FBI and DOJ.
Huh. Time to write him again asking him how his poll numbers are.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 02, 2018 02:57 PM (4CCz5)
Was it the same judge?
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We don't know. I may have been and probably should have been since generally you aren't allowed to judge shop. But his or her rotation may have been up, or on vacation etc etc.
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 02:57 PM (GsaGW)
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If you watched Trump during the campaign he routinely put out info to bait his enemies into looking like fools before putting out more info. Stay thirsty young padawan, as the kids like to say.
Posted by: Mega at February 02, 2018 02:57 PM (z5Kce)
ACLU says there were 8.2 million arrests for marijuana between 2001 and 2010. Given the likelihood for repeat offenders, let's cut that number in half. Honestly, I think that's generous.
4.1 million out of 310 million people in a decade is not that pervasive, dude.
sorry you have the privilege of not knowing a sole who has a misdemeanor for pot.
I'm not. I'm pretty pleased to have little contact with that world. Fish with pot misdemeanors can suck it.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 02:58 PM (iv0p7)
Tainted probe, wooah oh . . .
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 02, 2018 02:58 PM (6FqZa)
Isn't that the time frame here?"
Page left the Trump campaign in September 2016. And he knew he was being watched.
So, zero contact.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2018 02:58 PM (k1TUh)
The man has a history of taking names and convicting very bad guys. He's walked the walk for decades, so I'm willing to give the man the benefit of the doubt rather than assume because he hasn't black bagged Hillary Clinton and put her in a camp somewhere that he's in a coma.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:58 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at February 02, 2018 02:57 PM (RD7QR)
hey!
Posted by: Joe Kennedy 3rd at February 02, 2018 02:58 PM (hMwEB)
Is there a difference in how the page looks to the rest of the Horde, or does it look normal?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 02, 2018 02:51 PM
Hmmm, now that you mention it... The page looks like... a Carter Page !
*runs off to FISC to obtain warrant*
Posted by: Agent Straight Arrow at February 02, 2018 02:58 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Roland THTG at February 02, 2018 02:58 PM (xBSm0)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 02, 2018 02:56 PM (6FqZa)
wellthatwouldn'tbethe
FIRST!!!
time.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 02, 2018 02:58 PM (CPk08)
For your next trick, do you plan to demonstrate that 127% of Americans were killed by errant tax cuts?
Posted by: Sjg at February 02, 2018 02:58 PM (gDSJf)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2018 02:58 PM (0XyIg)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: rickl at February 02, 2018 02:57 PM (xjiRE)
That's "go tumor!" in Hebrew?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (4CCz5)
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: El Carbon Azzprint at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (foYMy)
Can't think of that song w/o seeing Jet Li kick ass. Maybe for this case, "One Way or Another" by Blondie
Posted by: auscolpyr at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (suO/a)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (5gaNQ)
Posted by: Christine Steele at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 02, 2018 02:54 PM (fCsNX)
So if I had a different browser it would look normal?
Is this permanent?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Obama survivor at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (ylUqT)
2. Where is all this "highly classified" information that the dems claimed were in this memo (and the reason why it should not have been released)?
Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (tX3BM)
It's Dana Boente
===============
See this is why you leave them in place. They identify the rot for you by promoting their co conspirators. Would be hilarious if it were a Cohen brothers movie.
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (+WJk6)
Its like Fast and Furious... lets let people break the law, so we can see if someone else might be breaking the law...
/facepalm
Posted by: Don Q. at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (NgKpN)
505 BREAKING: Wray's New Pick for FBI General Counsel Signed Tainted FISA Warrant Application While Acting Attorney General
_______________________________________
This is why Wray didn't want the memo released.
A boatload of karma just pulled into Pier 1.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (ATVNj)
ACLU says there were 8.2 million arrests for marijuana between 2001 and 2010. Given the likelihood for repeat offenders, let's cut that number in half. Honestly, I think that's generous.
4.1 million out of 310 million people in a decade is not that pervasive, dude.
sorry you have the privilege of not knowing a sole who has a misdemeanor for pot.
I'm not. I'm pretty pleased to have little contact with that world. Fish with pot misdemeanors can suck it.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 02:58 PM (iv0p7)
That is beyond an ignorant stance.
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Reggie Love at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (SkuXa)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (fceHP)
Bullshit.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (3gBUR)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 03:00 PM (XGrlW)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (5gaNQ)
You looking at me ???
Posted by: King Kong at February 02, 2018 03:00 PM (4u7kU)
Give them enough rope...
Posted by: Mega at February 02, 2018 03:00 PM (z5Kce)
I definitely have. For the better.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2018 03:00 PM (0XyIg)
First, Dana Bush Perino had her BFF the Thumb Stirewalt on with his usual NeverTrump blather, then CNN had Ana Navarro who looked like she'd swallowed an egg, shell and all, and predictably, smug Bill Kristol was on MSDNC. And for some reason, Katy Tur just thinks the whole Memogate is funny.
Now Shep! is on, doing his usual shtick.
Ugh. Taking a breather.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 02, 2018 03:00 PM (ptqGC)
OK. Since that fact is the very foundation of the "so what" of the memo, I find it hard to believe Nunes et al simply made it up, and that it's not in the record of testimony by McCabe.
And as "journalism" has now descended to running with implausible undocumented allegations or obviously non-credible "facts" (the date on the email regarding Trump campaing "early" access to wikileaks DNC stuff, for example) - which are literally debunked within minutes or hours, yet no retractions are issued - I'm guessing these astonishing claims will also be debunked quickly.
Obviously releasing relevant parts of the testimony transcript would suffice.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 02, 2018 03:01 PM (cJDvr)
FIRST!!!
time.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 02, 2018 02:58 PM (CPk0
I come back 30 minutes later and you're still at it AASI? and I laughed again. I need a life.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 02, 2018 03:01 PM (4CCz5)
Yeah I think some people get busted a lot, which skews the numbers and that's a quarter as many people as the Grammy viewers this year. Just not very many no matter how you paint it, not some vast widespread horror.
Do the cops abuse their power and misuse the law? Absolutely. I have my complaints and problems with how the system works. There are real troubles with police and law enforcement, particularly as new tech comes out and they seize upon it to use without regard for rights or liberty. But pot arrests are pretty small, and almost always they're because this is a person of interest in some other case.
As in: I know that guy was behind the murder of that woman, but I don't have enough evidence, but we caught him with weed so we can haul him in and maybe get a warrant to roust his place, now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 03:01 PM (39g3+)
Ugh. Taking a breather.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 02, 2018 03:00 PM (ptqGC)
How's his makeup? Extra thick?
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 03:01 PM (a0IVu)
For your next trick, do you plan to demonstrate that 127% of Americans were killed by errant tax cuts?
Posted by: Sjg at February 02, 2018 02:58 PM (gDSJf)
You are woefully ignorant of how things work and how dumb laws and abuse of power destroys lives. It touches everybody.
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 03:01 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2018 02:02 PM (qmmcr)
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It's the tumor talking.
Posted by: MAGA at February 02, 2018 03:01 PM (QLkHi)
Posted by: The Deep Horde at February 02, 2018 03:01 PM (2z74n)
2. Where is all this "highly classified" information that the dems claimed were in this memo (and the reason why it should not have been released)?
Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at February 02, 2018 02:59 PM (tX3BM)
I wonder if they tried to legitimize the paper trail by paying for it themselves, so it wouldn't look it came from the Hillary campaign. On the books, it would look legit. They worked with him before.
Again, they didn't expect Hillary to lose, so they weren't too afraid of further digging.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 02, 2018 03:01 PM (fceHP)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 02, 2018 03:02 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at February 02, 2018 03:02 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 02, 2018 03:00 PM (ptqGC)
yeah, i need that too...with nitrous.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 02, 2018 03:03 PM (4CCz5)
- Mooch
I got plenty of hope, Michelle. It isn't what you hope in.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 03:03 PM (8+Ozj)
Also the left: This memo is creating a constitutional crisis and proof of the war by Republicans on the FBI!!!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 03:03 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: steevy at February 02, 2018 03:03 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 02:49 PM (g4lFK)
Indeed it does. Not a benign drug at all. Which is why you should quit using it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 02, 2018 03:03 PM (Dbv1R)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 03:03 PM (5gaNQ)
Posted by: Shoeless guy at February 02, 2018 03:03 PM (THZvf)
___________________________________
He'll strangle you with the hose from his C-PAP machine.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 02, 2018 03:03 PM (ATVNj)
==
worst candidate evah
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 02, 2018 03:03 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 03:03 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Inogame at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (ySZHT)
Posted by: Under Fire at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (r9UYA)
So the cops that don't bother to get warrants aren't even making the bare minimum effort to do things the proper way. And that's why their evidence gets tossed.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (39g3+)
One of the NeverTrumpers said Sessions is threatening to quit if PDT cans Rosenstein.
????
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 02, 2018 03:02 PM (ptqGC)
Fantastic. Can Rosenstein now and put someone more aggressive in Sessions position.
Posted by: IC at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (a0IVu)
I apologize.
I'll treat you to a fillet of sole. No pot convictions on this guy, promise.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (iv0p7)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (nBr1j)
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 03:01 PM (g4lFK)
That's harsh. I recently suffered the loss of 14 of my friends and family to the net neutrality repeal. Have some sympathy please.
Posted by: Sjg at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (gDSJf)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (39g3+)
More like a goldfish.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:47 PM (39g3+)
This is why ham sammiches are very nervous around district attorneys and special prosecutors!
Posted by: Hrothgarevitch BOT at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (gwPgz)
that is the fisa judge ordering those that omitted the political sourcing of their "evidence", to explain why that should not be reason to hold them in contempt.
so Sessions and Ryan can play nice, let's see if such orders are issued to proceed down the path of justice. That could happen any minute, right?
Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2018 03:05 PM (bT8Z4)
I think we've found a rival to Obama's megalomaniacal narcissism ...
Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2018 03:05 PM (qmmcr)
So the left simultaneously has their hair in fire while having a massage?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 03:05 PM (8+Ozj)
Yeah I think some people get busted a lot, which skews the numbers and that's a quarter as many people as the Grammy viewers this year. Just not very many no matter how you paint it, not some vast widespread horror.
Do the cops abuse their power and misuse the law? Absolutely. I have my complaints and problems with how the system works. There are real troubles with police and law enforcement, particularly as new tech comes out and they seize upon it to use without regard for rights or liberty. But pot arrests are pretty small, and almost always they're because this is a person of interest in some other case.
As in: I know that guy was behind the murder of that woman, but I don't have enough evidence, but we caught him with weed so we can haul him in and maybe get a warrant to roust his place, now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 03:01 PM (39g3+)
I said since the war on drugs in the 1980's.
Only official arrests are counted. Many people get charged with a fake felony of over an once with intent to distribute to become a paid CI. These stories never get told or logged.
The CIs make up literal bullshit to save their assets because of a misdemeanor of pot being overcharged with thumbs on the scales to make it a felony with intent to distribute.
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 03:05 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 02, 2018 03:05 PM (hMwEB)
Still Funny:
The Obama WH, Hillary, the DNC, Comey, Lynch, FBI, DOJ, the MSM, and the polling all colluded to influence the election and yet Hillary still WNBPOTUS.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 02, 2018 03:05 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at February 02, 2018 03:05 PM (rdl6o)
family arrested for any drug offenses. Bunch of DUI's but never any drug
arrests.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 02, 2018 02:55 PM (+Dllb)
No friends with family members. Because that was part of the equation.
.
.
.Sorry can't think of a single one. I did kick a bunch of people out of the Navy for using pot in my 22 years on Active Duty though.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 02, 2018 03:06 PM (+Dllb)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 02, 2018 03:06 PM (eASYU)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 02, 2018 03:06 PM (ptqGC)
FISA courts are a bad idea. I hope Rand Paul does something to fix this. Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 02, 2018 02:49 PM (hMwEB)
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Let's all hear it for the Patriot Act folks! Dubya has a lot to be ashamed for. Lotsa 'badge bunnies' in the GOPe -- spying for fun and profit. Let's all be safe and ignore those nasty old politicos behind the curtain.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 02, 2018 03:06 PM (MIKMs)
Remember the illegal who left in a huff after ten years as a journalism student? Yeah, also a big loss.
Posted by: The Deep Horde at February 02, 2018 03:06 PM (2z74n)
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 02, 2018 03:06 PM (V3U1L)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 03:06 PM (5gaNQ)
And if you can't trust their word, who can you???
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 03:07 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 02:51 PM (39g3+)
That's not intelligence; that's propaganda.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 02, 2018 03:07 PM (Dbv1R)
Trump should not fire Rosenstein. Congress, Sessions and the media
should demand that Rosenstein resign. And if Rosenstein doesn't have
enough honor to resign then Sessions should be the one to fire him.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 02, 2018 03:06 PM (eASYU)
As I reported upthread, apparently Sessions is threatening to resign if PDT fires Rosenstein.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 02, 2018 03:07 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (39g3+)
Just you
Posted by: Andy Cohen at February 02, 2018 03:07 PM (4u7kU)
ah hah!
It surprises me who these people are and how they are related to other people in government and the media.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse Baffled and Bewildered at February 02, 2018 03:08 PM (O+THj)
FISA court existed long before W.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2018 03:08 PM (0XyIg)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 02, 2018 03:08 PM (ATVNj)
Posted by: steevy at February 02, 2018 03:08 PM (LiyEm)
Again, they didn't expect Hillary to lose, so they weren't too afraid of further digging.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
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I rate this speculation HIGHLY PLAUSIBLE.
Also, on reflection Page and Sztrock texting each other over the fact that they should not be using their work phones is revealing. They did that not because they are stupid. They did that because they knew that the texts would never be TURNED OVER. Using personnel phones meant that there was less stuff to flag for the cleaners to sweep up the next time congress or the IG asked for information.
In otherwords, it reveals a culture of corruption, because it must be routine for inconvenient information to be disappeared in FBI and Justice and not included in their responses to oversight requests.
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 03:08 PM (9voqQ)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 03:08 PM (5gaNQ)
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 03:01 PM (g4lFK)
That's harsh. I recently suffered the loss of 14 of my friends and family to the net neutrality repeal. Have some sympathy please.
Posted by: Sjg at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (gDSJf)
Comparing net neutrality to the war on drugs with the abuse in power of warrants and law enforcement since the 1980's is beyond retarded and ignorant.
My guess is you profit from the other side of the war on drugs or get off on watching people suffer while you sit on your high horse.
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 03:08 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 02, 2018 03:07 PM (ptqGC)
TWOFER !!
Posted by: sofa saver at February 02, 2018 03:08 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 02, 2018 03:07 PM (ptqGC)
NeverTrumper said it so I'm guessing it's fake news.
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 02, 2018 03:08 PM (hMwEB)
yeah, boo hoo. him and mueller should be toast.
trump should say, "I'll hire a new unbiased special counsel to investigate collusion only. no more witchhunts. and, oh, by there's also a second special counsel now for all this hillary/obama/fbi/holder/lynch malfeasance."
Posted by: zibbly wibbly at February 02, 2018 03:09 PM (V3U1L)
I'd love to see how you can charge someone with a crime without ever filing any paperwork or being on record anywhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2018 03:09 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 02, 2018 03:06 PM (MIKMs)
I always have trouble coming up with a counter example to the claim that here has never been a piece of legislation, no matter how well intentioned, that has NOT been perverted in practice, usually by progressives, but always by someone with a political connection.
Posted by: Hrothgarevitch BOT at February 02, 2018 03:09 PM (gwPgz)
Wait, charging docs aren't filed AND CI records aren't kept?
That's a pretty big scoop. You should write a story and submit it to your local paper.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 03:09 PM (iv0p7)
Dude ...
... you're pissing on the Third Rail of Horde Politics - Law Enforcement. They got Badges AND Guns. That's better than Angel Wings.
Might as well call Reagan a Faggot.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 03:10 PM (XGrlW)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 02, 2018 03:10 PM (fA1SL)
I'm with Christopher Taylor here. Don't trust #nevertrump (our enemies) when they try to drive a wedge between Sessions and Trump.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 02, 2018 03:10 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 03:10 PM (8+Ozj)
Posted by: Genghis Khan, Attorney at Law at February 02, 2018 03:10 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 03:11 PM (iv0p7)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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What! Jane spreading fake news!!! Unpossible!!!
Believe it when you see it coming out of sessions mouth.
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 03:12 PM (9voqQ)
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 03:08 PM (g4lFK)
Lashing out definitely does not help your case. In fact now I expect everyone has just dismissed your ranting. Even the people who may have agreed with you in some fashion.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2018 03:12 PM (0XyIg)
Posted by: Genghis Khan, Attorney at Law at February 02, 2018 03:10 PM (4ErVI)
Fag ^^^^^^
Posted by: A the H at February 02, 2018 03:12 PM (4u7kU)
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Yeah, did not hear Dana Perino mention that once. I wonder why? Nah, fuck her and that bitch Nicole Wallace.
Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at February 02, 2018 03:13 PM (rdl6o)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (nBr1j)
Right schools, right credentials, right tribe.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 03:14 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 02, 2018 03:08 PM (g4lFK)
Spot on! I make several million a year orgnizing a cabal of confidential informants which feed information about every stoner sitting around in a public park.
I like to enjoy a delicious medium rare rib-eye with some red wine in my box seats which offer a spectacular view of the poor bastards being drawn and quartered. A very refreshing way to start off the day, wouldn't you say?
Posted by: Sjg at February 02, 2018 03:14 PM (gDSJf)
Is that right?
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 02, 2018 03:14 PM (nBr1j)
Again. FISA has been around before W.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2018 03:14 PM (0XyIg)
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 02, 2018 03:04 PM (nBr1j)
Right schools, right credentials, right tribe.
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I believe he is related by blood and marriage to hoy polloi types.
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 03:15 PM (Q/7lj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 03:15 PM (8+Ozj)
should demand that Rosenstein resign. And if Rosenstein doesn't have
enough honor to resign then Sessions should be the one to fire him.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 02, 2018 03:06 PM (eASYU)
Exactly this.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 03:16 PM (7uYFy)
I'm on board for the suffering, personally.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 02, 2018 03:16 PM (iv0p7)
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 03:15 PM (Q/7lj)
That's what I meant. That and Manhattan.
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2018 03:16 PM (7uYFy)
Is the dinner before or after your canter on the high horse? ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 03:17 PM (8+Ozj)
Exposing the process used to find terrorists and eliminate the danger they represent would, however, be honourable.
Am I getting media mentality right?
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 02, 2018 03:17 PM (nBr1j)
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The problem being the atmosphere it created. It made it easier for the FISC to authorize warrants for surveillance.
Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at February 02, 2018 03:17 PM (rdl6o)
should demand that Rosenstein resign. And if Rosenstein doesn't have
enough honor to resign then Sessions should be the one to fire him.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 02, 2018 03:06 PM (eASYU)
Exactly this.
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Agreed. But, HILARIOUSLY, Rosenstein's nickname is "Frank Burns". So honor is completely foreign to him.
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 03:18 PM (Ersp1)
If you can't avoid being pinched for weed you are too reckless.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 02, 2018 03:18 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2018 03:14 PM (0XyIg)
They just couldn't authorize direct surveillance on US Citizens on US Soil.
Which is why we call it the Foreign Information and Surveillance Act.
Fuck W and most of the Patriot Act. I tell and tell and tell you people ... Obama didn't weaponize shit. He just used the tools available.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 03:19 PM (XGrlW)
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 03:15 PM (Q/7lj)
That's what I meant. That and Manhattan.
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Sometimes when people pick up your comment is because they are agreeing with you with emphasis added. Cause I agree with you in spades.
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 03:20 PM (HX+05)
Posted by: Ever at February 02, 2018 03:20 PM (OLS0m)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 03:17 PM (8+Ozj)
Horses are okay and all, but I much prefer my palanquin for normal travel.
Posted by: Sjg at February 02, 2018 03:20 PM (gDSJf)
https://t.co/RIqTGpUwk2
-- Julian Assange
Posted by: Under Fire at February 02, 2018 03:20 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 03:23 PM (8+Ozj)
Posted by: Sjg at February 02, 2018 03:20 PM (gDSJf)
But did you have to bring all of your luggage?
Posted by: Panting carriers of said palanquin at February 02, 2018 03:23 PM (suO/a)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 03:19 PM (XGrlW)
Bingo!!
Posted by: dDan at February 02, 2018 03:23 PM (hwYmz)
Posted by: IanDeal at February 02, 2018 03:24 PM (qcIL3)
They're all just so average.
Posted by: simplemind at February 02, 2018 03:24 PM (+WJk6)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2018 03:26 PM (0XyIg)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 03:26 PM (5gaNQ)
We don't know that he said the one about resigning. That was reported by a NeverTrumper.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 03:27 PM (8+Ozj)
Posted by: wth at February 02, 2018 03:28 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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& I call Bullshit ! he & Wray didn't want Memo released with the names init & Trump said TOUGH SHIT! if he didn't resign then. he won't resign for that eithher. More Fake Deep State News
Posted by: MISHBOT at February 02, 2018 03:28 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2018 03:14 PM (0XyIg)
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Yes. But what part of 'foreign' don't you understand? Patriot Act weaponized 'foreign' to tap all of us -- with or without warrant.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 02, 2018 03:29 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 03:31 PM (5gaNQ)
from the LA Times March 20 2017:
"Two of the nation's top counter-intelligence [Comey and Adm Rogers] officials stood by the U.S.
intelligence assessment in January that Russian President Vladimir
Putin's government sought to help Donald Trump win the 2016 election."
question: if Putin wanted Trump to win, why would Russian intelligence people supply info to Steele that could have cost Trump the election?
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at February 02, 2018 03:31 PM (ILitO)
Posted by: Whiskey.....and leave the bottle at February 02, 2018 03:32 PM (aC5wP)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 03:32 PM (5gaNQ)
The latest attacks on the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests - no party's, no president's, only Putin's.<<<
I see Malignant Johnny is rolling again. Putin is living rent-free in his head like a tumor.
Posted by: Fritz at February 02, 2018 03:32 PM (2Mnv1)
FISA always allowed surveillance on US citizens suspected of colluding with foreign agents.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2018 03:34 PM (0XyIg)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 03:36 PM (8+Ozj)
Posted by: wth at February 02, 2018 03:36 PM (HgMAr)
Is Comey's twitter warrior thing part of some sort of penance routine for the Clinton letter?
LOL.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 03:39 PM (8+Ozj)
He's totally not.
But CNN has been saying so for months... The Midnight Doc Snatch! ... totally disproven.
etc etc etc.
The Molly Hemingway article was very detailed on that.
In case you want to see how this particular narrative is being advanced, check out the first THIRTY links here:
Google search of "Devin Nunes is acting like he's in a spy thriller" .
https://tinyurl.com/y72t3fxv
The media echo chamber is really working overtime on this one. What a joke. They are so jealous of anyone who does actual investigation!
Posted by: scottst at February 02, 2018 03:40 PM (3IOxs)
Posted by: Under Fire at February 02, 2018 03:41 PM (r9UYA)
Stick them in the stockades and throw tomatoes at them !
Posted by: MAGA at February 02, 2018 03:44 PM (QLkHi)
Posted by: pawn at February 02, 2018 03:47 PM (SWPT+)
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Nellie Ohr Research Was Provided To FBI For FISA Application Source Material
Posted on February 2, 2018 by sundance
Posted by: MISHBOT at February 02, 2018 03:49 PM (y3aQB)
Posted by: Skip Go Birds! at February 02, 2018 03:50 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 03:53 PM (5gaNQ)
FBI knew Steele was talking to the media. They were in on it to get Trump.
Nunes knows FBI knew Steele was talking to the media. That's why he mentions
Steele's 'lies' to the FBI, with Grassley making a criminal referral.
Posted by: MikeN at February 02, 2018 03:55 PM (o/eHL)
Posted by: CN at February 02, 2018 03:57 PM (5gaNQ)
Looking forward to seeing her get perp-walked in an orange jumpsuit, along with James "Petyr Baelish" Comey.
Posted by: Anagrammatical at February 02, 2018 03:57 PM (BPTve)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 02, 2018 03:34 PM (0XyIg)
... and the Patriot Act removed the whole "colluding with Foreign Agents" bit. After the Patriot Act ... ANYONE could be subject to surveillance. A link to a Foreign Power was not required.
Dude ... I don't know why you suddenly feel the need to defend FISA courts ... but I can counter this bullshit all day.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 03:57 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 02, 2018 03:23 PM (8+Ozj)
Fen ... it all comes down to this ... how much do you trust the Government ? Enough to let it keep its Secrets ?
Personally ... I don't.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 02, 2018 04:01 PM (fiGNd)
And that, of course, exposes that the FBI under my pristine leadership gutted the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
Is that it?
That all you got?
Posted by: James Comey at February 02, 2018 04:03 PM (Z2PYk)
Posted by: MISHBOT at February 02, 2018 04:04 PM (y3aQB)
If you want the news to make more sense:
Do a "find and replace": "dossier" out, "horseshit" in.
Posted by: Burger Chef at February 02, 2018 05:01 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: MarkD at February 03, 2018 12:36 PM (zH8aH)
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