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Weekend Gun Thread

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Classy guy, classy gun.

You're Morons, so I know what the answer is to this question. Got any obscure calibers?

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As a governor he was supported by the NRA. He's been a keynote speaker at a NRA convention. Somewhere along the line Haley Barbour forgot what he was suppose to know.


Barbour — Republican National Committee chairman in the mid-1990s and governor from 2004-12 — tells The Associated Press on Wednesday he was trying to board a flight Jan. 2 from Jackson to Washington.

Transportation Security Administration (TSA) spokeswoman Lisa Farbstein says a TSA officer at a checkpoint X-ray machine spotted a .38 caliber revolver, loaded with five bullets, in a carry-on bag. TSA contacted airport police, who arrested the former governor.

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So have any of you Moron purchased one of these yet?

Elon Musk sells 15,000 flamethrowers in record speed, grossing $7.5 million.
Elon Musk, tech billionaire, CEO of SpaceX and Tesla, and founder of The Boring Company, released a flamethrower that has been spreading across the web like wildfire.

He shared an image on Instagram Jan. 27 showing the propane flamethrower.

Maybe he should boost production at his auto making facility.


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Are these the Top Ten gun songs? Of course you'll give us your thoughts on this.


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A collection of odd guns.h/t redc1c4


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1 guns

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 06:27 PM (hMwEB)

2 first

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 06:27 PM (hMwEB)

3 Hey, all!

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 06:28 PM (uZ8ZO)

4 Number one with a bullet?

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 11, 2018 06:29 PM (dVBEl)

5 WTF, Haley?

Posted by: navybrat at February 11, 2018 06:29 PM (w7KSn)

6 And I just asked on the cooking thread if we were having a gub thread. Thanks, uncle Palp for the nood news!

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 06:29 PM (uZ8ZO)

7 Okay number 4 with high brass buckshot

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 11, 2018 06:30 PM (dVBEl)

8 Nice thread, thanks.

Posted by: tbodie at February 11, 2018 06:30 PM (ksPsw)

9 MH, thanks for the gun thread but FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY DO NOT EVER GIVE AIR TIME TO THAT PLAGIARIZING BITCH AT TTAG!!!!! Just say NO to TTAG!!!!!


thatisall.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 11, 2018 06:30 PM (vbvxt)

10 Can you imagine a picture of Trump with a gun like that on a range and CNN/ MFM would have a fit.

Posted by: Colin at February 11, 2018 06:30 PM (weSWO)

11 Gun Thread!


Posted by: An Observation at February 11, 2018 06:31 PM (zoFiL)

12 Better Zombies video: 2 v 90, with friendly fire on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYrqoRUVEw0
Marco!

Polo!

Posted by: Not Winston Churchill at February 11, 2018 06:31 PM (PxB9y)

13 Would it be too much to hope that law enforcement roughed Barbour up a little?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 11, 2018 06:31 PM (oVJmc)

14 So that 7.62 x 25 pistol round...what round is it similar to ballistically?

Posted by: clutch at February 11, 2018 06:32 PM (kiSdp)

15 Obscure Calibers, yup. .223 Winchester Super Short Magnum. Goes like a bat out of heck, burns out your barrel almost as fast. Don't think it's even made now.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 06:33 PM (uZ8ZO)

16 Where are the hearing protection and safety glasses in that top photo?

And keep your finger off the bang switch until you see the range is clear. Sheesh.

Who taught the 4th Hussars their weapon safety class?

And yes, I know Churchill was a very good shot with a Tommy Gun.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 06:33 PM (hyuyC)

17 Sir Winston was SpecOps?

I did not know that.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 11, 2018 06:33 PM (ECDXs)

18 Remington Model 673 clambering .350 Remington Magnum. We call it the moose rifle.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 11, 2018 06:33 PM (dVBEl)

19 top 10 gun songs, Roland hardest hit...

Posted by: Sumdumchief at February 11, 2018 06:33 PM (1X3Y0)

20 Re the collection of odd guns: is there a video of the guy shooting the rifle around the corner of a building?

Posted by: tbodie at February 11, 2018 06:34 PM (ksPsw)

21 .41 Magnum is a previously-obscure caliber that's made a comeback. Makes for an interesting revolver.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 06:34 PM (398bZ)

22 John Steed's let himself go.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 11, 2018 06:34 PM (oVJmc)

23 Hey, Weasel, you here? Got a question on long range.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 06:35 PM (uZ8ZO)

24 Number one gun song should be "My Little Armalite".

Odd calibers I use are 6.5 Carcano, 7.5 French and the Jap 6.5 and Jap 7.7.

Jap 7.7 is the hardest to come by but is still made I think now and then by Prvi Partizan.

Most obscure are my Vz.52 Rifles chambered in 7.62 by 45. No longer in production but surplus turns up now and then. Very, very dirty and corrosive.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 06:35 PM (EoRCO)

25 I had one nice room in my house - my late mother's bedroom. While I was at the gun range shooting my 9mm pistol - a water pipe sprang a leak and the ceiling in that room fell on all my rifles. No water in the house until Thursday or so, and $6000 I hadn't planned on spending to replace the 64 year old water pipes in the house.

Sigh.

Posted by: An Observation at February 11, 2018 06:35 PM (zoFiL)

26 14. It's a souped-up version of the old 7.63 Mauser. It's really in a class all its own.
Hell of a round, amd a lot of fun.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 06:35 PM (fA1SL)

27 Obscure calibers? Heh - I'm the opposite of the guy who minimizes/standardizes. Obscure is in the eye of the beholder but... 7.62 Nagant, 7.62 Tok, 7.5x55 Swiss, 7.65 Argentine, 7.62x54R, 7x57, 8x57, 8x56R, 9 Mak, 7.65 French Long, 38 S&W, 45-100, 50-70...and my muzzleloader is a 58 Zouave. Was...was a Zouave...that canoe sure was riding low when I lost all that stuff...

Posted by: Rocketguy at February 11, 2018 06:35 PM (PRC13)

28 Always thought best if you have only a few stick with the well traveled calibers

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 06:36 PM (aC6Sd)

29 The Gov was just doing a little undercover work investigating the TSA. Yeah that's the ticket.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 06:36 PM (2DOZq)

30 Had a customer come into Wally World looking for .35 and .32 rifle rounds. Wally World don't sell those. But if he had been looking for .222 I could have sold him that or .22-250.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 06:36 PM (5Td5d)

31 Obscure calibers...

Looks in closet. Oddly all the long guns are in .30 caliber and handguns in .38.

Didn't plan it that way.

No two the same cartridge though.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 11, 2018 06:36 PM (Eu5eZ)

32 I carried, yes carried, and shot a 90mm recoiless rifle in the Army. It could and did bust up whatever you hit.

Posted by: PhilDirt at February 11, 2018 06:37 PM (UFNnB)

33 My take is only 2 Britons in that picture

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 06:37 PM (aC6Sd)

34 Odd calibers? Do we have to own one?

10 gauge shotgun?

One Inch, black powder, wall gun?

black powder cannon?

How odd do they have to be?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 11, 2018 06:37 PM (ECDXs)

35 What no Love Gun?

Posted by: Rumpelstiltskin at February 11, 2018 06:37 PM (UdKB7)

36 Skip

Churchill and driver, right?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 06:38 PM (hyuyC)

37 I have two CZ52 pistols, and am considering getting a Yugo M57. That 7.62x25 is favorite handgun round.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 06:39 PM (fA1SL)

38 My first as a driver for the notorious big 4 in Detroit as a rookie we had a Thompson in the trunk along with shotgun and carbine. When we rolled up on a crime scene and the Thompson came out everyone was gone and I mean everyone. The good old days.

Posted by: RiverRat1297 at February 11, 2018 06:39 PM (97pu9)

39 Them gun songs ain't sh*t n' I got a 44 that says so.

Posted by: Stagger Lee at February 11, 2018 06:39 PM (mt2jL)

40 Ok, .75 is somewhat odd thats why I make my own

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 06:39 PM (aC6Sd)

41 16 gauge shotgun and lots of birds shells.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 06:39 PM (hyuyC)

42 I wants me a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 in 9mm so bad...

Have I mentioned recently that the NY S.A.F.E. Act is an abomination unto the Lord?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at February 11, 2018 06:39 PM (e9G8E)

43 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 11, 2018 06:30 PM (vbvxt)

Haven't been there in a while. Wth have I missed?

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 06:40 PM (Lx7Py)

44 Ok, since Weasel ain't here, a general long range question: why .308 over .30-'06?

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 06:40 PM (uZ8ZO)

45 I get Winston and guy on end has a British uniform hat, everyone else has American uniforms

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 06:40 PM (aC6Sd)

46 Feel good story

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=77646

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 06:41 PM (5Td5d)

47 That flame thrower doesn't shoot far enough.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 11, 2018 06:41 PM (70cRb)

48 Shotguuun shoot em fore they run now...

Posted by: Regular joe at February 11, 2018 06:41 PM (7PllL)

49 My favorite oddball caliber is the .303 British - I have a WWII Enfield rifle chambered in that round. Like a 30-06, a bit softer. Also, the 7.5 x 55mm Swiss - have a Swiss-made bolt-action rifle for that one, too. And let's welcome newcomer .17HMR! Haven't fired that one yet.

Posted by: rfitz3 at February 11, 2018 06:41 PM (yfvd5)

50 My frat had a six pounder cannon that we would just powder fire during one of our annual celebrations. I've been sworn to to say that we never fired a projectile. Never.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 06:42 PM (2DOZq)

51 That guy on the end had battledress on, so UK.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 06:42 PM (hyuyC)

52 39 Them gun songs ain't sh*t n' I got a 44 that says so.

Posted by: Stagger Lee at February 11, 2018 06:39 PM (mt2jL)


The Big Iron on My Hip agrees.

Posted by: Marty Robbins at February 11, 2018 06:43 PM (DofIg)

53 The .303 British is an "oddball caliber" -- ???

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at February 11, 2018 06:43 PM (e9G8E)

54 Obscure calibers? .45-70 Springfield Trapdoor carbine. Not all that obscure I guess.

Not live but I have a number of 30mm cannon shell casings that I made in shot glasses and a 5 inch (54/62 caliber) deck gun casing sitting in the office.

They were drug through a number of airports to make it home in a seabag. TSA was not happy but didn't confiscate them.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 11, 2018 06:44 PM (tr2D7)

55 It's a souped-up version of the old 7.63 Mauser. It's really in a class all its own.
Hell of a round, and a lot of fun.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 06:35 PM (fA1SL)

Some website numbers claim it superior to .357 Magnum in stopping power, which I find hard to believe.

Posted by: clutch at February 11, 2018 06:44 PM (kiSdp)

56 Girls With Guns - Tommy Shaw

Posted by: Bobbymike at February 11, 2018 06:45 PM (Tsks7)

57 Ruger is absolutely killing with their new offerings. I was thinking the other day that someone with zero firearms could go:

Ruger Security Nine $300
Ruger PC Carbine $500
Mossberg 500 12 Gauge: $350

That's a pretty good arsenal of brand new guns for $1150.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 06:45 PM (398bZ)

58 Obscure you say?

Umm

http://bit.ly/2BRzcNZ

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 11, 2018 06:45 PM (Lx7Py)

59 Sebastian Melmoth

There has got to be a story here! Did you use panties for the shot wadding?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 06:45 PM (hyuyC)

60 6.5x55 Swedish. Carl Gustaf 96 Mauser. Sweet.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 11, 2018 06:45 PM (SUFnU)

61 Remember, "guns" backwards is "snug," which is how they make me feel.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 06:45 PM (NWiLs)

62 The closest thing I have to an obscure caliber is 41 magnum. That's not really obscure, just not hugely popular. But put it in a 7.5 inch barrel Ruger Backhawk and it is a comfortable, accurate round.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 06:45 PM (V+03K)

63 I think the ettes need an alternate thread when all the men are talking guns.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 06:46 PM (dUJdY)

64 Yay! Gun thread!! Let's see, 22LR, 22 Win Mag, 380 Auto, 9mm, 38 Spl., 357 Mag., 40 S&W, 45 ACP, 223 Rem, 5.56, 30-30 Win, 308 Win, 300 Win Mag., 30-06 Sprnfld, 338 Lapua

Nope nuthin' too exotic.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 06:46 PM (2sCft)

65 It's like the old days when the men went into the parlor for cigars and cognac after dinner. The women stayed behind and cleaned but then what?

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 06:47 PM (dUJdY)

66 I find it unbelievable that Folsom Prison Blues did not make the song list.

also, sock off.

Posted by: jwb7605 at February 11, 2018 06:47 PM (DofIg)

67 .308 ballistics are slightly better. Less recoil but from there on it think it is preference. Both have accuracy out to about 800 yards. Love 30 06, but built a 700 in .308 due to shorter action.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 11, 2018 06:47 PM (dVBEl)

68 Tonypete

I had the welding shop HTs and the MR in my division in my first ship. One of the HTs made a very musical wind chime array using a variety of shell casings.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 06:47 PM (hyuyC)

69 55. Nope, not even close to .357 Mag. Small, fairly light projectile moving at near rifle velocity. For what it is, it's amazing.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 06:48 PM (fA1SL)

70 57 That's a pretty good arsenal of brand new guns for $1150.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 06:45 PM (398bZ)

Yes, Ruger seems to consistently offer nice firearms at reasonable prices. Usually rugged and reliable.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 06:48 PM (2sCft)

71 1 guns
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 06:27 PM (hMwEB)

Lots of guns.

Posted by: jsg at February 11, 2018 06:49 PM (/FL4O)

72 Obscure - 7.65mm Argentinian manufactured in Eygpt. Looks like 8mm the ahole said as he tried to load it onto my Jugo M53 belt. Grrrrr.
And he is usIng a 1928 A1. My one is ex Russian lend lease. Never fired by Rooskis as they had them in the lend lease tanks but only forst line ammo.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at February 11, 2018 06:49 PM (bgJ0E)

73 I had the welding shop HTs and the MR in my division in my first ship. One of the HTs made a very musical wind chime array using a variety of shell casings.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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*eyes big box of spent casings*

*rubs chin*

Posted by: Tonypete at February 11, 2018 06:49 PM (tr2D7)

74 Jewells45

My advice to female students exasperated by teenage boys (who are 99.94% jerk), is to talk shoes.

Almost all guys will clear out, and the ones left are safe. (No I do not say that last part out loud).

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 06:50 PM (hyuyC)

75 Jewells, you really should consider making some jewelry out of brass cases and/or bullets. They're quite shapely and I'd bet a number of guys would buy them for their 'Ettes.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 06:50 PM (uZ8ZO)

76 303 is not odd, but my #4 Longbranch is dear to my heart

Posted by: Old man gator at February 11, 2018 06:50 PM (XdFEY)

77 There was a story a few years back about some police department in the Midwest - may have been Chicago - that discovered a vault full of full auto tommy guns in their basement. They were going to sell them to finance the purchase of new guns. Anyone remember that? Whatever happened to the tommy guns? Wouldn't mind picking up one of those for my collection.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at February 11, 2018 06:50 PM (3JQ/p)

78 Duck's foot 'gun' is the first of the "load more images" ones. I say 'gun' because I've only ever seen true pistol versions and never one made from a discarded(?) longarm. Used aboard ships for boarding parties or an officer wanting to face-down mutinous crewmen.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 06:50 PM (ewxPW)

79 Semi-annual gun show at fairgrounds this weekend. Couldn't go as Dad in hospital after major stroke and needing to care for Mom with Alzheimer's. That's okay. Not much I need and not feeling so worried about future availability now that PDJT is in oval office. MAGA.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 06:50 PM (2sCft)

80 Now, those Nagant revolvers take odd-ball ammo. The projectile is seated below the rim of the cartridge. That whole 'gas seal' thing. A solution in search of a problem.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 06:51 PM (fA1SL)

81 You're Morons, so I know what the answer is to this question. Got any obscure calibers?

Nope. With the exception of .380 and .44 Mag, everything in my safe was standard U.S. Military issue at one time or another. Even .22 LR; I have a High Standard with the Ordnance Dept flaming bomb mark. I will admit to a growing interest in adding a 6.5 Creedmore though.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 11, 2018 06:51 PM (7oUUT)

82 Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 06:50 PM (uZ8ZO)

Well, butter my biscuit! I never thought of that!! Thanks for the idea!

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 06:51 PM (dUJdY)

83 70 57 That's a pretty good arsenal of brand new guns for $1150.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 06:45 PM (398bZ)

Yes, Ruger seems to consistently offer nice firearms at reasonable prices. Usually rugged and reliable.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 06:48 PM (2sCft)

Has anyone ever gone wrong with a Ruger product? I know I haven't.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 11, 2018 06:51 PM (3/sUh)

84 #78 And with the pistol version as the second photo!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 06:52 PM (ewxPW)

85 211 mm is a pretty obscure caliber. Those Germans really liked their big-ass guns.

https://tinyurl.com/y8ajlea5

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 06:52 PM (9SkN+)

86 I only heard of a couple of the gun songs and didn't remember the Hendrix one. Most were too recent, post-1970.

When I saw gun songs, my first thought was for Johnny Horton's "Battle of New Orleans" followed by something from Annie Get Your Gun.

Yeah, I'm old.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 06:52 PM (V+03K)

87 Tami

I didn't see you complaining, I saw you as sharing the upcoming event. It gave me a smile. It appears the special part missing Were the flowers from a mother who lost her son, Wake flowers. She did not want them to wilter and fade and wanted to see her sons life continue in a blessed event. She gave them to me and assisted in rearranging for life's continual joy in her sons memory.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 06:52 PM (7ZiDC)

88 So NaClay, what you're saying is the ettes need to get over here and talk fashion and the men will leave? lol.. okay!

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 06:52 PM (dUJdY)

89 44 Ok, since Weasel ain't here, a general long range question: why .308 over .30-'06?
Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 06:40 PM (uZ8ZO)
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Hey!
In F-Class competition there are two classes T/R and Open.
F-T/R is restricted to .308 and .223 calibers and shooters use a bipod. Although the bullet diameter is the same (.308 and .30-06) the rules say .308 Winchester. There is also a reougly 16# weight limit. The idea is to prevent anyone from having a caliber advantage. The F-Open class is what I shoot and my long range match gun is a 6.5-284 although a lot of guys are shooting 7mm now. In F-open the guns can weigh up to 21pounds and use a mechanical front rest.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 06:52 PM (Sfs6o)

90 I have a 1911 chambered for .38 Super. That's kind of obscure.

At least, I USED to have one.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 06:53 PM (9SkN+)

91 Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 06:45 PM (hyuyC)

You would appreciate that our Chemistry major brother was in charge of the load and firing.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 06:53 PM (2DOZq)

92 My advice to female students exasperated by teenage boys (who are 99.94% jerk), is to talk shoes.

Almost all guys will clear out, and the ones left are safe. (No I do not say that last part out loud).
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 06:50 PM (hyuyC)

And by "safe" you mean "flaming homosexuals."

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 06:54 PM (NWiLs)

93 Has anyone ever gone wrong with a Ruger product? I know I haven't.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 11, 2018 06:51 PM (3/sUh)

Ruger make good firearms but IMHO junker barrels. Mini 14, Ruger No 1, P85, all very average shooters until another barrel is fitted. The .22 auto pistol bull barrel can shoot better than I can hold it tho. YMMV.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at February 11, 2018 06:54 PM (bgJ0E)

94 211mm? Just a tad larger in diameter than an M-110.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 06:54 PM (5Td5d)

95 So NaClay, what you're saying is the ettes need to get over here and talk fashion and the men will leave? lol.. okay!
Posted by: Jewells45 at February




well, the thing is knowledge of guns is useful for moronettes, knowledge of women's shoes is not really useful for anyone.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 11, 2018 06:55 PM (MTjB1)

96 I have an M1 Carbine modified for .45 Win Mag. New barrel, modified magazines, and probably a modified bolt - can't remember.

It was made in the mid-90s by a company called LeMag (I think) in Michigan (I think). Saw an ad for it in GunList. I still have it but it's buried in the back of a gun safe. Shot it a few times, last time over 20 years ago. Fairly accurate. Had magazine feeding problems. Probably not worth much now, I suppose.

Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2018 06:55 PM (AMIL/)

97

"A collection of odd guns. h/t redc1c4"

last photo: a double-barrel (legal length) on a bipod with scope & flashlight.

Evidently, there are still some very serious, very heavy hitters still operating ...

Posted by: Yeeeeeaaarrrrggghhhhh at February 11, 2018 06:55 PM (FlRtG)

98 "Has anyone ever gone wrong with a Ruger product? I know I haven't."

I haven't either. I'm really impressed with the value in their new offerings. That EC9S for just over $200 is just a ridiculously good deal.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 06:55 PM (398bZ)

99 Jewells, I occasionally fool around with sea glass jewelry and have always thought that a necklace of various rifle caliber bullets would look really good on Mrs. Red.
And guys, my man card should be safe. It's gunnnz!

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 06:56 PM (uZ8ZO)

100 Sorry wrong thread but food does go with guns, especially if one spent the day at the range. The lamb is tender and moist turned out delish bonus easy clean up AirFryer.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 06:56 PM (7ZiDC)

101 Has anyone ever gone wrong with a Ruger product? I know I haven't.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 11, 2018 06:51 PM (3/sUh)




I have a Ruger Security Six .357 that I keep next to the bed. It's simple and reliable but very harsh to shoot, probably because of its relatively small mass and large caliber. Not my favorite.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 06:56 PM (9SkN+)

102 My friend has a LAR Grizzly .45 auto mag. If you miss at close range the muzzle flash will burn them to death.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 11, 2018 06:56 PM (dVBEl)

103 would much rather have one really nice gun than three ok guns.



when you could have an ar why would you want a shotgun?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 11, 2018 06:57 PM (MTjB1)

104 83 70 57 That's a pretty good arsenal of brand new guns for $1150.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 06:45 PM (398bZ)

Yes, Ruger seems to consistently offer nice firearms at reasonable prices. Usually rugged and reliable.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 06:48 PM (2sCft)

Has anyone ever gone wrong with a Ruger product? I know I haven't.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 11, 2018 06:51 PM (3/sUh)

Still have my first rifle I got 35 years ago, Ruger 10/22 carbine. Never even a misfire. Now kids and I have six different versions of that 10/22 rifle including a take-down, and no problems with any of them.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 06:57 PM (2sCft)

105 Ette's get a dress thread Saturdays

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 06:57 PM (aC6Sd)

106 102. Heh. 7.62 Tok is like that. Miss? Well, he's blinded and stunned by the muzzle blast, so you can beat him to death with the pistol.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 06:57 PM (fA1SL)

107 The 6.5-284 shoots verrrry flat but the downside is barrel life. I generally get about 800 rounds from my match barrels and then it becomes a $500 tomato stake. The team I coach is a T/R team so I have to keep the .308 ballistics in my head too. I have a bunch of rifles chambered in both .308 and .30-06 that I shoot for fun.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 06:58 PM (Sfs6o)

108 well, the thing is knowledge of guns is useful for moronettes, knowledge of women's shoes is not really useful for anyone.

I beg to differ. But it's the gun thread so I will leave it at that

RI..I will look into that.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 06:58 PM (dUJdY)

109 Ooh, gun thread.

My only obscure calibers are 9mm MAK the 7.62 TOK.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 06:58 PM (xJa6I)

110 That Thompson weighs more than 12lbs with a loaded mag.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 06:58 PM (2DOZq)

111 You'll shoot your eye out!

Posted by: ALH at February 11, 2018 06:58 PM (71nZe)

112 Skip.. you are right.. I forgot about the dress thread. I haven't been on much lately and totally forgot about it.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 06:58 PM (dUJdY)

113 when you could have an ar why would you want a shotgun?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 11, 2018 06:57 PM

Lets not get so hasty now

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 06:59 PM (aC6Sd)

114 Jewells45

Network to have MJ start a fashion thread.

OM and his esteemed dress pron, IMHO, is for the guys. You can get your own thread, tell stories about your husbands, talk shoes, and what-not.

The guys can go to comparison shop power tools rather than post.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 06:59 PM (hyuyC)

115 Is this also a hat thread cause I like bowler, low brim, helmets and cu__ caps on those visible men.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 06:59 PM (7ZiDC)

116 98
"Has anyone ever gone wrong with a Ruger product? I know I haven't."



I haven't either. I'm really impressed with the value in their new
offerings. That EC9S for just over $200 is just a ridiculously good
deal.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 06:55 PM (398bZ)

What a beautiful gun. Heidi has a Ruger featherweight 38 revolver. I bought one and even with defense rounds the recoil is light. Enjoyable to shoot.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 11, 2018 07:00 PM (70cRb)

117 when you could have an ar why would you want a shotgun?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 11, 2018 06:57 PM

Lets not get so hasty now
Posted by: Skip at February









well, more rounds, more range

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 11, 2018 07:00 PM (MTjB1)

118 Ette's should hang out here as well anyway, lots of suggestions

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:00 PM (aC6Sd)

119 44 Ok, since Weasel ain't here, a general long range question: why .308 over .30-'06?
Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 06:40 PM (uZ8ZO)

No expert at all like Weasel, but I think I've read that .308 had better long range ballistics. 6.5 Creedmoor is all the rage right now, but I can't stand the thought of needing to keep another caliber in stock.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:00 PM (2sCft)

120 106 102. Heh. 7.62 Tok is like that. Miss? Well, he's blinded and stunned by the muzzle blast, so you can beat him to death with the pistol.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 06:57 PM (fA1SL)

CZ52 is well-suited for that.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:01 PM (NWiLs)

121 No expert at all like Weasel, but I think I've read that .308 had better long range ballistics. 6.5 Creedmoor is all the rage right now, but I can't stand the thought of needing to keep another caliber in stock.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February




no valkyrie 224?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 11, 2018 07:01 PM (MTjB1)

122 Not every answer is the more bullets the better

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:01 PM (aC6Sd)

123 I did forget about the 10/22 as I have upgraded with a Brno in .17HMR for pest control. I think that the 10/22 is aprox 30 years old and would have about 1200 rds per year so say 36000 rounds thru it. Still functioned ok but accuracy was going. Still the gold standard on semi auto .22 rifles.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at February 11, 2018 07:01 PM (bgJ0E)

124 Ok, since Weasel ain't here, a general long range question: why .308 over .30-'06?

Similar downrange performance but less powder. Smaller case volume can (depending on powder) lend itself to more consistency. And finally, if you're into scrapping out the last decimal place of precision, the medium length action will generally be stiffer than a long action.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 11, 2018 07:01 PM (7oUUT)

125 105 Ette's get a dress thread Saturdays
Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 06:57 PM (aC6Sd)

Nuh uh.

Posted by: ALH at February 11, 2018 07:02 PM (71nZe)

126 If I wore hats I'd go for a Trilby.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 07:02 PM (9SkN+)

127 Nothing oddball, but tricky to find .455 for my Webley

Posted by: Hal Dall at February 11, 2018 07:02 PM (709Fb)

128 32-20 Blues by Robert Johnson should be in the list of top gun songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0H_5PSNokk

And if she gets unruly, thinks she don't wan' do
And if she gets unruly and thinks she don't wan' do
Take my 32-20, now, and cut her half in two

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at February 11, 2018 07:02 PM (Q/rPc)

129 120. That's why I've got two of them. Lovely pistols. Even got one as a gift for my angel. Swapped out the bakelite grips on hers with walnut. Because romantic.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 07:02 PM (fA1SL)

130 Not every answer is the more bullets the better
Posted by: Skip at February




well sure, but when you only want to carry one gun

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 11, 2018 07:02 PM (MTjB1)

131 Sebastian Melmoth

Chem major as powder maker, hmmm. Have him add some inorganic salts to color the fireball. Barium for deep red, copper for green, etc.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 07:03 PM (hyuyC)

132 Weasel, is your 6.5 the Creedmore? I have a gap between .243 Winchester and .30-30 and .30-'06. I'd like to get into longer than 3-400 yd range and the obvious(to me) choices are 6.5 mm and .308.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 07:03 PM (uZ8ZO)

133 I have a box of 41 long colt to go with a .41 colt revolver that has messed up lock work. From what I've read on the internet my chances of finding a gunsmith that can fix a Colt 1892 is about zero.

I spent 15 minutes this afternoon putting a different trigger in my CZ 75BD that I hope will cure some annoying trigger slap.

Posted by: Keith at February 11, 2018 07:03 PM (USf3s)

134 Those steel pots weigh a bit, I still have mine

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:03 PM (aC6Sd)

135 Has anyone ever gone wrong with a Ruger product? I know I haven't.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 11, 2018 06:51 PM (3/sUh)
Red Label O/U in 20 ga. is built on the 12 ga. frame and too heavy.

Posted by: clutch at February 11, 2018 07:03 PM (kiSdp)

136 Uh-oh. NZFrank said Brno.

I'm a novice, but a friend of mine who is truly an expert has a bunch of Brno rifles. Crap, those are unbelievably fine guns.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 07:04 PM (398bZ)

137 Although still made I guess 22 Hornet and 222 Remington might qualify as obscure. They've been overtaken by hotter varmint calibers but they are comfortable to shoot and can deliver great accuracy. Good calibers for a Contender.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 07:05 PM (V+03K)

138 92 Insomniac

NaCly Dog, LT USN, /1110 is all you're getting out of me, commie!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 07:05 PM (hyuyC)

139 I'm really pissed about Alien: covenant. It may have explained the face hugger alien cultivar (creepy Michael Fassbender). But it did NOT explain the far more interesting question. Why did the humanoids who created us come to hate us and invent the Aliens to annihilate us? That was the question that Prometheus raised, and Covenant evaded it with the cheap trick of creepy Michael Fassbender killing them off with the Aliens.

Posted by: Bear phone at February 11, 2018 07:05 PM (2835Q)

140 I've seen the flintlock revolvers too. Too bad about that "all the cylinders firing at once" problem.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 07:06 PM (ewxPW)

141 I've never been a fan of Ruger triggers.
I do love my Vaquero, though. Rugers tend to be durable but the ergonomics are usually second tier.

They've gotten better in the last few years, the Ruger American aside.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:06 PM (xJa6I)

142 The big issue in .308 is keeping the bullet supersonic past about 800 yards. A 168 grain target bullet is OK at midrange but decelerates quickly and does not generally remain stable through the transonic transition. 175 + grain bullets remain stabl and are preferred for long range. I have a couple of .308 barrels that I wwap onto my match guns and the load I have worked up is with 200 gr bullets.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:06 PM (Sfs6o)

143 lemme see: 32.20, 32ACP, 38 Super, 357 Maximum, 45 Long Colt, 445 Supermag, 9x21, 9mm Markov, 338 Lapua, 7.5x54 Frog, 416 Barrett, 458 SOCOM, 460 Steyr, 6.5 Swedish, 10 gauge and 44 Shot...

plus whatever i'm forgetting.

what do i win?

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 07:06 PM (tCf58)

144 I read recently that .308 rifles are inherently more accurate than 30-06.

Anyone care to comment?

Posted by: Pogomip at February 11, 2018 07:06 PM (/CdIR)

145 We hope that all the 'ettes have at least one gun, or if not, that they will feel encouraged to get one.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 11, 2018 07:06 PM (SUFnU)

146 Not that old JTB.
I remember ol' Col Jackson lookin' real mad like.
We thought we'uz wuz in real trouble I will tell you.
Turned out he wuz just riled a might cuz we hadn't asked him to join us.

DI you manage to find a way to get ahold of the cd with Old Martin and a Mandolin?

Posted by: teej at February 11, 2018 07:06 PM (6NBNe)

147 145. And wear pretty dresses to the range.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 07:07 PM (fA1SL)

148 We hope that all the 'ettes have at least one gun, or if not, that they will feel encouraged to get one.

One gun for every five pairs of shoes is a good rule of thumb.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 07:07 PM (9SkN+)

149
132 Weasel, is your 6.5 the Creedmore? I have a gap between .243 Winchester and .30-30 and .30-'06. I'd like to get into longer than 3-400 yd range and the obvious(to me) choices are 6.5 mm and .308.
Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 07:03 PM (uZ8ZO)
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I have custom reamers so the 6.5-284 is a slightly modified 6.5-284 Norma. For mid-range I use the 260 Remington.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:08 PM (Sfs6o)

150 The hairdresser that killed four people in Kentucky yesterday had a nice little gun collection. These nuts are going to give us a bad name.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 07:08 PM (2DOZq)

151 Old Winnie is looking like a gentleman bank robber there. OTOH since those things tend to kick the muzzle way up, I'd be worried about standing behind him.

As for your list of ten gun songs, Warren Zevon's "Send Lawyers, Guns and Money" was good, but I liked his "Roland The Headless Thompson Gunner" better. Now there was a gun song with some pizzazz!

Posted by: Comanche Voter at February 11, 2018 07:08 PM (Sda6L)

152 135 Has anyone ever gone wrong with a Ruger product? I know I haven't.
Posted by: clutch at February 11, 2018 07:03 PM (kiSdp)

Not go wrong per se, but the pre Ruger Mk1-3 had some really interesting engineering choices. I do love my Police 6 revolver and just got my son a 10/22 take down that I can't wait for us to take tot he range.

Posted by: Keith at February 11, 2018 07:08 PM (USf3s)

153 There was a story a few years back about some police department in the Midwest - may have been Chicago - that discovered a vault full of full auto tommy guns in their basement. They were going to sell them to finance the purchase of new guns. Anyone remember that? Whatever happened to the tommy guns? Wouldn't mind picking up one of those for my collection.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at February 11, 2018 06:50 PM (3JQ/p)

Let me answer my own question:

https://tinyurl.com/y8osgjfh

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at February 11, 2018 07:08 PM (3JQ/p)

154 why not have some thread where the ettes demonstrate range technique in their favorite pair of shoes?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at February 11, 2018 07:08 PM (MTjB1)

155 We hope that all the 'ettes have at least one gun, or if not, that they will feel encouraged to get one.

In do own one but my next purchase will probably be something a little smaller I can fit in my purse since Missouri now allows conceal carry without need of a license. Then I would like a shotgun. Because.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 07:09 PM (dUJdY)

156 Obscure calibers? I own a 1912 Colt Army revolver in .41 Long Colt--it's called 'Army' because it was the last service revolver Colt tried to sell to the Army but the Army had just discovered the joys of Browning's 1911, so that purchase never happened. Good gun, though. Melds to the hand.

Buying the cartridges retail is prohibitively expensive so I bought the mold and the brass. I have one box of cartridges I did buy in order to test the gun. Shoots like a dream. Now I just have to get down to the business of reloading.

Posted by: troyriser at February 11, 2018 07:09 PM (K8f5g)

157 112 Skip.. you are right.. I forgot about the dress thread. I haven't been on much lately and totally forgot about it.
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 06:58 PM (dUJdY)

Well, to be fair, Oregon Muse combines the Dress Pron thread with the Chess thread. We could do a gun and women's shoes thread combo. It not a fetish, but I do appreciate a well shod dame.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:09 PM (2sCft)

158 148nCicero (@cicero)

Woh, Woh, WOH!
Let's back off the crazy talk now!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 07:09 PM (hyuyC)

159 144 I read recently that .308 rifles are inherently more accurate than 30-06.

Anyone care to comment?
Posted by: Pogomip at February 11, 2018 07:06 PM (/CdIR)

Since it's a common sniper round I would just have to assume it is.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 07:09 PM (2DOZq)

160 The entire Alien franchise needs a Davey Crockett at this point.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 07:09 PM (5Td5d)

161 besides a raspberry for forgetting 7mm Jap.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 07:09 PM (tCf58)

162 Obscure caliber?

Square. The Puckle Gun fired either round or square bullets. The square bullets were thought to be more effecive against Mohammedans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 11, 2018 07:09 PM (t5m5e)

163 why not have some thread where the ettes demonstrate range technique in their favorite pair of shoes?

lol!! With pics of course!

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 07:09 PM (dUJdY)

164
132 Weasel, is your 6.5 the Creedmore? I have a gap between .243 Winchester and .30-30 and .30-'06. I'd like to get into longer than 3-400 yd range and the obvious(to me) choices are 6.5 mm and .308.
Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 07:03 PM (uZ8ZO)
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Either one will get you there but I'd recommend the .308. The overbore 6.5mm really chews up barrels.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:09 PM (Sfs6o)

165 Yay! Gorn thread.

Posted by: Guy in a lizard mask at February 11, 2018 07:10 PM (2835Q)

166 Obscure - .450/577 Snider, 6.5 Mannlicher rimmed in a Rigby, .275 Rigby in a Rigby (Nah just a re-branded 7mm Mauser). .451 Whitworth. God if I just opened one locker and went thru it I would probably find another dozen more obsure rifles.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at February 11, 2018 07:10 PM (bgJ0E)

167 Nearly every day almost a half gallon of booze, a box of cigars, and no sleep. Just give the guy a Thompson and he pulled the Empire to victory.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2018 07:11 PM (zLDYs)

168 Buddy Miles Rat a Tat.

If the snow would melt faster I could get to the range.
Interesting songs.

I held a beauty of a machine gun, quiet she was a sure beaut hand crafted.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 07:11 PM (7ZiDC)

169 8mm Nambu for a Jap type 14 pistol. Yep, that's obscure. Sweet shooting highly accurate. And underrated... tk

Posted by: Tangokilo at February 11, 2018 07:12 PM (TNN52)

170 Just an opinion on gun songs. 'The Devils Right Hand' Steve Earle wrote it,has a good version, there's a cover by Webb Wilder that I think is better. I think it's better than bout 4 of those songs, but..I report, u decide.

Posted by: meiko at February 11, 2018 07:13 PM (OuloN)

171 Jewells45

How is the art of crafting going, Im looking forward to more soft sparkle.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 07:13 PM (7ZiDC)

172 And I repeat - what this world needs is:

1. An all-steel, high-cap handgun in 7.62 Tok; and
2. Modern production PPSH 41's at competitive prices.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 07:13 PM (fA1SL)

173 144 I read recently that .308 rifles are inherently more accurate than 30-06.

Anyone care to comment?
Posted by: Pogomip at February 11, 2018 07:06 PM (/CdIR)
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I'm sort of guessing here but I suspect that has a lot to do with using surplus M2 ball ammo with a 150 grain bullet.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:13 PM (Sfs6o)

174 Another wall o'text range report follows:

Spent another weekend at the range trying to cure the 'dip'. I'm back to my XD9, which fits my hand almost perfectly, after the PPQ had two failures to feed with ball ammo. Sigh. It's like being married to a model, pretty but...not sure you can rely on it in a crunch.

The good news is, the Springfield XD9 still can put in shockingly tight groups if I focus on the front sight and do my part with the trigger pull.

The trigger pull seems to be my culprit. Oh, there's still the odd, stupid spinal reflex flinch now and then. But I am dead on target if I carefully pull straight BACK on the trigger. While if I pull DOWN on the trigger, rounds land short.

This is good news since it probably means I can go back to my Glock 21 for daily carry, after next week's range test verifies my theory. If the problem is just how I'm pressing, I can fix that.

Also did all my shooting from the modified Weaver stance, stiff right arm. Which is how I'd shoot under stress. Accuracy did not suffer too much vs Isosceles...though slow fire Isosceles is the most accurate stance for me.

Anyway, was a great day at the range for me. Wish I'd brought more ammo.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:13 PM (xJa6I)

175 24
Odd calibers I use are 6.5 Carcano

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 06:35 PM (EoRCO)

Had one of those carbines. It had Beretta stamped on the receiver. Got in 1966 for $10. 00. Lord know where it is now

Posted by: Javems at February 11, 2018 07:13 PM (bVEBo)

176 oh yeah, and someone wants to sell us a Remington Derringer, in 41 Rimfire, but i'm not sure we're gonna bite on that one. even though it does come with ammo.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 07:14 PM (tCf58)

177 .32 Win is my most obscure round in a pre '64 lever action.

Posted by: clutch at February 11, 2018 07:14 PM (kiSdp)

178 Marlin lever action in 35 Remington. It's pretty light so has quite a kick.

Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2018 07:14 PM (UdKB7)

179 172 And I repeat - what this world needs is:

1. An all-steel, high-cap handgun in 7.62 Tok; and
2. Modern production PPSH 41's at competitive prices.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 07:13 PM (fA1SL)

Palpy is a poet and a sage and I support this motion.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:14 PM (xJa6I)

180 I read recently that .308 rifles are inherently more accurate than 30-06.

Yes the .308 knocked the 30-06 out of being a competition cartridge because it was more accurate. 30-06 has more potential power. .308 can be chambered in short actions - 30-06 calls for a long action.

Posted by: An Observation at February 11, 2018 07:14 PM (zoFiL)

181 The Type 14 pistol, isn't that the one if you hit the sear the pistol fires?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 11, 2018 07:15 PM (5Td5d)

182 101 ... Cicero, Have you considered using 38 special, regular or Plus-P, in the Security Six? Still plenty effective for home defense, much easier with recoil and they won't destroy your hearing.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 07:15 PM (V+03K)

183 One gun for every five pairs of shoes is a good rule of thumb.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 07:07 PM

Again, aren't we being a little to hasty here?

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:15 PM (aC6Sd)

184 .475 Wildey Automag. I could get through life with just one kidney to own one.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at February 11, 2018 07:15 PM (dVBEl)

185 and 300 Weatherby Mag...

my halfzimer's is getting worse, not better.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 07:15 PM (tCf58)

186 7.65 French Long, 38 S&W, 45-100, 50-70...and my muzzleloader is a 58 Zouave. Was...was a Zouave...that canoe sure was riding low when I lost all that stuff...
Posted by: Rocketguy at February 11, 2018 06:35 PM (PRC13)

7.65 French Longue.......I have never found any but always look when I am out and about and on line. I think Buffalo Arms makes some now and then.

Apparently the French took this round from the Pedersen device and loved it. Why no one knows. I bet there are warehouses in France full of the stuff and yet to be discovered.

Used in their pistols and sub machine guns.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 07:15 PM (EoRCO)

187 RI Redbot - where about S are you? Anywhere near The mid-Atlantic? I'm thinking about holding some (free) informal introduction to long range shooting clinics this summer.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:16 PM (Sfs6o)

188

She gets all excited when I whip out my sixteen inch

https://youtu.be/_wT1xkRpCKk

Posted by: Gun Songer at February 11, 2018 07:16 PM (IqV8l)

189 173 144 I read recently that .308 rifles are inherently more accurate than 30-06.

Anyone care to comment?
Posted by: Pogomip at February 11, 2018 07:06 PM (/CdIR)
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I'm sort of guessing here but I suspect that has a lot to do with using surplus M2 ball ammo with a 150 grain bullet.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:13 PM (Sfs6o)

30-06 is sufficiently accurate with the right ammo to hit and kill anything you can see. If you are talking long range precision shooting, then maybe. Shooting at anything living you want dead, the 30-06 can do it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:16 PM (xJa6I)

190 172 And I repeat - what this world needs is:

1. An all-steel, high-cap handgun in 7.62 Tok; and
2. Modern production PPSH 41's at competitive prices.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 07:13 PM (fA1SL)

How about a titianium framed 1911 in .45ACP? Any interest as I may look at giving the guys currently making them in the US some competiion.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at February 11, 2018 07:16 PM (bgJ0E)

191 why not have some thread where the ettes demonstrate range technique in their favorite pair of shoes?

Ginger Rogers kept up with Fred Astaire, and she did everything he did backwards and in high heels.

Posted by: ALH at February 11, 2018 07:16 PM (71nZe)

192 The Walther PPK has a relatively obscure 7.65 mm caliber load that is nice for close-range work, with a surprisingly pleasant mouth feel.

Posted by: Zombie A. Hitler at February 11, 2018 07:16 PM (9SkN+)

193 Luann.. thanks for asking. I've been pretty miserable with my foot lately. I literally can't walk without a limp so spending a lot of time learning new stuff and making new items for the shop. Didn't even leave the house today.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 07:17 PM (dUJdY)

194 147 and 172 are both spot-on, Palpatine !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 11, 2018 07:17 PM (SUFnU)

195 I83 cont.
I'd have about 126 firearms in this house

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:17 PM (aC6Sd)

196 Is that really a "flamethrower" or just an expensive way to make a nice crust on one's creme brulee?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 11, 2018 07:17 PM (qJtVm)

197 183 One gun for every five pairs of shoes is a good rule of thumb.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 07:07 PM

Again, aren't we being a little to hasty here?
Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:15 PM (aC6Sd)

I think my ratio is 5 guns for every pair of shoes....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:17 PM (xJa6I)

198 She gets all excited when I whip out my sixteen inch

from Subway?

Posted by: ALH at February 11, 2018 07:17 PM (71nZe)

199 195 I83 cont.
I'd have about 126 firearms in this house
Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:17 PM (aC6Sd)

All right, you win.

I think I'm over 50 though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:17 PM (xJa6I)

200 182 101 ... Cicero, Have you considered using 38 special, regular or Plus-P, in the Security Six?

I have a S&W 686 with a 6-inch barrel. Shooting .38 in it is pure pleasure.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 07:18 PM (398bZ)

201 Love that 'mouth feel' joke about Hitler and the Walther PP

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:18 PM (xJa6I)

202 163 why not have some thread where the ettes demonstrate range technique in their favorite pair of shoes?

lol!! With pics of course!
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 07:09 PM (dUJdY)
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Well, there are lots of nice videos of young ladies with nicely displayed racks shooting rifles and jiggling. But, now that I'm thinking of it, that's not going to appease the 'ettes, its just throwing more red meat at the morons. Never mind.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:18 PM (2sCft)

203 195 I83 cont.
I'd have about 126 firearms in this house
Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:17 PM (aC6Sd)
Diito - don't quite know how many in the workshop.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at February 11, 2018 07:18 PM (bgJ0E)

204 172 And I repeat - what this world needs is:

1. An all-steel, high-cap handgun in 7.62 Tok; and
2. Modern production PPSH 41's at competitive prices.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 07:13 PM (fA1SL)

The bottleneck rounds might create a problem for a double-stack hi-cap magazine.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:19 PM (NWiLs)

205 Sturdy Sexy boots for Range dont gotta be expensive. My jeans would cover most of the view anyway, I like the break in jeans. I love the range so many friendly peeps. I do scan as I have been in an free for all shooting quarey. Drunken shooters waving heavy loads, Fdat.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 07:19 PM (7ZiDC)

206 I think my ratio is 5 guns for every pair of shoes....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:17 PM

My house would look like the National Guard Armory

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:19 PM (aC6Sd)

207 101 I have a Ruger Security Six .357 that I keep next to the bed. It's simple and reliable but very harsh to shoot, probably because of its relatively small mass and large caliber. Not my favorite.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 06:56 PM (9SkN+)


Same here, with 2 the inch barrel. I have +P .38 Specials in it. They give quite a bit less kick than full .357 mags, but better than plain .38s

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 07:19 PM (DNH+H)

208 Thanks, Weasel. Good info. Do you use the same powder to load with 6.5 and .308? I'm still experimented with my -'06 rounds.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 07:19 PM (uZ8ZO)

209 204. Dammit! This is America! We can find a way to make it work!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 07:19 PM (fA1SL)

210 I'd have about 126 firearms in this house

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:17 PM (aC6Sd)
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you say that like it's a BAD thing...

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 07:20 PM (tCf58)

211 Cicero, Have you considered using 38 special, regular or Plus-P, in the Security Six? Still plenty effective for home defense, much easier with recoil and they won't destroy your hearing.


Yeah, I should do that but I have a shitload of .357 rounds. I feel like I should stay in practice with them.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 07:20 PM (9SkN+)

212
30-06 is sufficiently accurate with the right ammo to hit and kill anything you can see. If you are talking long range precision shooting, then maybe. Shooting at anything living you want dead, the 30-06 can do it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:16 PM (xJa6I)
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True - just about any caliber can be made to be very accurate, it just depends on your definition of accuracy and how much time and money you're willing to spend to get there. My match guns hold 1/3 MOA vertical and the velocity extreme spread is around 7 fps. But I spend HOURS prepping brass and sorting bullets and weighing powder.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:22 PM (Sfs6o)

213 not sure how many we have at this point, but all 3 safes are starting to bulge...

obviously, it's time for another safe.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 07:22 PM (tCf58)

214 204 172 And I repeat - what this world needs is:

1. An all-steel, high-cap handgun in 7.62 Tok; and
2. Modern production PPSH 41's at competitive prices.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 07:13 PM (fA1SL)

The bottleneck rounds might create a problem for a double-stack hi-cap magazine.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:19 PM (NWiLs)

Maybe something more like the C-96 in design, only updated to use a modern slide action?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:23 PM (xJa6I)

215 Is that really a "flamethrower" or just an expensive way to make a nice crust on one's creme brulee?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 11, 2018 07:17 PM


We're Morons. Embrace the power of "and".

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2018 07:24 PM (QpTNr)

216 208 Thanks, Weasel. Good info. Do you use the same powder to load with 6.5 and .308? I'm still experimented with my -'06 rounds.
Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 07:19 PM (uZ8ZO)
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There are several choices but I use H4350 in 6.5mm and Varget in .308

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:24 PM (Sfs6o)

217 Jewells, the weather was so awful here last few days I was stuck indoors too. Better today though. I got a haircut!

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 11, 2018 07:24 PM (6FqZa)

218 G'evening, all.

Just walked in from Walmart, whee I am glad to report the they have at least 10 different types, brands of .22lr well stocked up.

The Golden Bullets were right at $20.00 for a brick of 500. Not a bad price.

Crappy round.

But a good price for it around here.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 07:24 PM (EyPfd)

219 Gun song: I'm gonna show him what little girls are made out of, Gunpowder and Lead. Miranda Lambert.

I saw her open for George Strait, and her set opened with a neat video of pics of women with guns.

I watched a biathlon event today. That's one of my favorite winter Olympic sports. I guess they all use those Anschutz rifles. I have no use for one as far as I know but it would be interesting to shoot one.

Posted by: stace at February 11, 2018 07:24 PM (6HFDU)

220 213 not sure how many we have at this point, but all 3 safes are starting to bulge...

obviously, it's time for another safe.
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 07:22 PM (tCf5

I only have 32 and all fit in one safe, with smaller safe for ammo. But I like the way you think, Sir! The answer isn't less guns, it's more safes.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:24 PM (2sCft)

221 Weasel, if you were--like--a normal human being and you wanted one all-purpose centerfire bolt gun, what caliber would you choose?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 07:24 PM (398bZ)

222 214. Hmmm.......you'd need a shoulder stock to balance the thing properly.

Might as well just stick to the PPSh 41 at that point.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 11, 2018 07:25 PM (fA1SL)

223 OT question, as I don't put tv on much and news even less is Marie Harf, the former State Dept liar still at Fox?

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:25 PM (aC6Sd)

224 Had one of those carbines. It had Beretta stamped on the receiver. Got in 1966 for $10. 00. Lord know where it is now
Posted by: Javems at February 11, 2018 07:13 PM (bVEBo)

Haha...yup. Most Carcano rifles and carbines you see nowadays go for $300-$400 range.

Even the oddball 8mm Carcano...the mystery of mysteries for surplus WW2 rifles.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 07:26 PM (EoRCO)

225 If you want to go old school use IMR4895 in your .30-06. It's more susceptible to temperature variation but is fine for general use.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:26 PM (Sfs6o)

226 218 Just walked in from Walmart, whee I am glad to report the they have at least 10 different types, brands of .22lr well stocked up.

The Golden Bullets were right at $20.00 for a brick of 500. Not a bad price.

Crappy round.

But a good price for it around here.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 07:24 PM (EyPfd)

Those do seem like good prices for 22LR. But fuck Walmart since the got scared and quit selling AR's. At least in the Oregon Walmarts.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:26 PM (2sCft)

227 83

Has anyone ever gone wrong with a Ruger product? I know I haven't.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 11, 2018 06:51 PM (3/sUh)

The only non-Ruger product I have is a Browning shotgun for quail.

Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 11, 2018 07:26 PM (6Gm6W)

228 speaking of bulging, we found a 1911 on Gun Broker last weekend. 1912 production, according to the Colt website. has British proof marks all over it.

apparently it's a real find, as Jim, Sunk New Dawn wanted to inflict great bodily harm on me when i mentioned it on the ONT last Sunday.

we waited to the last half hour, made the minimum bid, and no one else did, so we saved the $500 difference between bid and buy it now.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 07:27 PM (tCf58)

229 146 ... Hi teej,

I ordered it yesterday. Should have it by Wednesday or so and I'm looking forward to it. BTW, Amazon may be out of the CD.

Posted by: JTB at February 11, 2018 07:27 PM (V+03K)

230 wanted one all-purpose centerfire bolt gun, what caliber would you choose?
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 07:24 PM (398bZ)
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Ha! Absolutely and without hesitation the .308 Winchester!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:28 PM (Sfs6o)

231 Can any reloaders here recommend a good powder measure for stick type rifle powders? I have a Lee measure which is not very consistent.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 07:28 PM (DNH+H)

232 223 OT question, as I don't put tv on much and news even less is Marie Harf, the former State Dept liar still at Fox?
Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:25 PM (aC6Sd)

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Yes, unfortunately and she's still still unbearably vapid. But that said, I'd still do her.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:28 PM (2sCft)

233 " But fuck Walmart since the got scared and quit selling AR's. At least in the Oregon Walmarts."

Hell, here in Baltimore, i'm pretty glad that they even carry ammo.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 07:29 PM (EyPfd)

234 228 reads and faints

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:29 PM (aC6Sd)

235 Ha! Absolutely and without hesitation the .308 Winchester!
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:28 PM (Sfs6o)

That's what I thought you'd say. Thanks.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 07:29 PM (398bZ)

236 wanted one all-purpose centerfire bolt gun, what caliber would you choose?
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 07:24 PM (398bZ)
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Or the .30-06!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:29 PM (Sfs6o)

237 What kind of gun did Leroy Brown carry?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 07:29 PM (2DOZq)

238 Have we covered .38 Long Colt ammo? hard to find. For the Colt Model 1892 revolver, which for a time was the issue service revolver for the U.S. Army. i have my grandfather's.

Posted by: goatexchange at February 11, 2018 07:29 PM (YFnq5)

239 Weasel, I'm in NH in the winter and RI/MA in the summer. But Mrs. Red and I want to do a genealogy tour in PA at some point. I think that's your new Weasel Acres location.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 07:29 PM (uZ8ZO)

240 @ Weasel

ISWYDT

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:30 PM (xJa6I)

241 Boulder, it's been crap here too. Woke up yesterday to a sheet of ice on the roads. This cold weather wreaks havoc with my arthritis. God I wish I could move to Arizona!

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 07:30 PM (dUJdY)

242
Obscure ammo:

I considered buying a Marlin 336 lever action rifle in .375 Winchester but passed because of the lack of availability of ammo. Too bad it never caught on, it was by all accounts a great performer.

I had a K98 Mauser 8MM, and an Arisaka in 7.7 Jap.

My brother once had a snub nosed revolver in 38 S and W.; barrel climb was substantial.

Posted by: Frankly at February 11, 2018 07:30 PM (hqp7X)

243 231 Can any reloaders here recommend a good powder measure for stick type rifle powders? I have a Lee measure which is not very consistent.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 07:28 PM (DNH+H
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They're pricey but check out Harrell's.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:30 PM (Sfs6o)

244 237 What kind of gun did Leroy Brown carry?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 07:29 PM (2DOZq)

Hmm, he had a .32 gun in his pocket for fun....

Going to guess Colt 1903 hammerless.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:31 PM (xJa6I)

245 237 What kind of gun did Leroy Brown carry?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 07:29 PM (2DOZq)


"A 32 gun in his pocket for fun, and a razor in his shoe"

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 07:31 PM (DNH+H)

246 a .32, just for fun

Posted by: goatexchange at February 11, 2018 07:31 PM (YFnq5)

247 Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 07:29 PM (uZ8ZO)
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Keep your eyes peeled here. I'm in central VA so about 5 hours south of PA.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:32 PM (Sfs6o)

248 Jewells45
You rest up and relax, I know you were and are in discomfort its a struggle sometimes doing what you love and the balancing act. I will be there for you just let me know what you need.

Thank you for the bracelet, unexpected. I would continue to gladly pay for you art. The SW purse Decor is on my leather bag.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 07:33 PM (7ZiDC)

249 "Going to guess Colt 1903 hammerless."

I have to stay low-cost with guns, but if I ever run into some money I'm going to have a Colt 1903. Dammit.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 07:33 PM (398bZ)

250 Weasel Acres is the place for me!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 07:33 PM (ewxPW)

251 223 OT question, as I don't put tv on much and news even less is Marie Harf, the former State Dept liar still at Fox?
Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:25 PM (aC6Sd)

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Yes, unfortunately and she's still still unbearably vapid. But that said, I'd still do her.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:28 PM (2sCft)

Ms. Harf's name makes me think of the sound makes when coughing up a hairball.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:33 PM (2sCft)

252
Obscure ammo:

A friend has a non-shooter Remington pump rifle in obsolete .30 Remington. I think it's a Model 11.

Posted by: Frankly at February 11, 2018 07:34 PM (hqp7X)

253 "Ms. Harf's name makes me think of the sound makes when coughing up a hairball."

Yes, every ca in America can pronounce Ms Harf's name.

Perfectly

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 07:34 PM (EyPfd)

254 249 "Going to guess Colt 1903 hammerless."

I have to stay low-cost with guns, but if I ever run into some money I'm going to have a Colt 1903. Dammit.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 07:33 PM (398bZ)

Yeah about three grand I would guess.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 07:35 PM (2DOZq)

255 What kind of gun did Leroy Brown carry?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 07:29 PM (2DOZq)

Rohm RG10 .22 short revolver....he was a cheap ass pimp.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 07:35 PM (EoRCO)

256 Wow!
You were able to get the actual cd?
I figured electronic download was all there would be.
It's going to be a mix of song types.

Hope you enjoy it.
Looking forward to getting the trio cd done and out in November.
Not to mention repeating the fun we had recording the first two numbers.

Posted by: teej at February 11, 2018 07:35 PM (6NBNe)

257 Classy guy, classy gun.
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Get. Off. My. Beach.

Posted by: Winston at February 11, 2018 07:36 PM (nBBdT)

258 Well, not technically a gun but . . . .?

WWII, the Gift That Keeps On Giving

London City Airport
@LondonCityAir
Following the discovery of a World War Two ordnance in King George V Dock as part of planned development works, a 214m exclusion zone has been implemented as a precaution by the Met Police. As a result, London City Airport is currently closed.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 11, 2018 07:36 PM (+y/Ru)

259 Thank you Luann I have some great friends here. It's only been the past few weeks life has taken a different turn shall we say. My pain level has gone up substantially, shit with my brother.. husband.. mom.. ugh.. it catches up with ya! Trying to count my blessings.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 07:36 PM (dUJdY)

260 It was fun having a press and packing so relaxing. I keep cooper hammered down for cleaning.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 07:36 PM (7ZiDC)

261 250 Weasel Acres is the place for me!
Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 07:33 PM (ewxPW)

Weasel living is the life for me

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:36 PM (NWiLs)

262
Rohm RG10 .22 short revolver....he was a cheap ass pimp.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
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Raven?

Posted by: Winston at February 11, 2018 07:36 PM (nBBdT)

263 243 They're pricey but check out Harrell's.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:30 PM (Sfs6o)


Thanks, I see that Brownells has them for $300. That's in the "Buy once, cry once" category for me, but if it gets the job done, maybe worth it. The cheap Lee I have drives me crazy.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 07:36 PM (DNH+H)

264
243 231 Can any reloaders here recommend a good powder measure for stick type rifle powders? I have a Lee measure which is not very consistent.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 07:28 PM (DNH+H
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They're pricey but check out Harrell's.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:30 PM (Sfs6o)
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It could,also be the powder you're using. Some meter better than others. 'Stick' powder generally meters better than 'flake' powder. I use Harrell's powder measures to dump 99.5% of my desired charge weight then trickle powder by the speck onto a very sensitive scale until I am at precisely the charge weight I'm looking for. Non-neurotic people don't torture themselves this way.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:37 PM (Sfs6o)

265 harf! harf!

Posted by: Sandy at February 11, 2018 07:37 PM (ewxPW)

266
Very short take on .7.62mm NATO vs .30-06:

After WW2, the US Army was looking for a replacement / upgrade / improvement to the .30-06. After considering many things, the Army ended up with a full power rifle cartridge, extremely close to the .30-06, yet 1/2" shorter.

"Why" needs to be asked, "Why 7.62mm and not just standardize on .308 Win or .300 Savage?" The "modern propellant" argument (shorter case with same performance)is too early for 1955.

Accuracy: US WW2 sniper rifles were usually selected 1903 Springfields which were then reworked. The Army used what it had. Post-war, with time, budget and a clear need (and a new caliber) purpose-built sniper rifles were produced, and were (and should be expected to be) more accurate. Inherent accuracy of any rifle/ammo load combination is heavily dependent on the development program and skill of the gunsmith.

Posted by: Arbalest - GNAMM Survivor at February 11, 2018 07:37 PM (FlRtG)

267 I get allergic smelling hay!

Posted by: Lisa Douglas at February 11, 2018 07:38 PM (9SkN+)

268
261 250 Weasel Acres is the place for me!
Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 07:33 PM (ewxPW)

Weasel living is the life for me
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:36 PM (NWiLs)
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all you clowns are invited!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:38 PM (Sfs6o)

269 268
261 250 Weasel Acres is the place for me!
Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 07:33 PM (ewxPW)

Weasel living is the life for me
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:36 PM (NWiLs)
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all you clowns are invited!
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:38 PM (Sfs6o)

I'd rather Park Avenue

Posted by: Donald Trump at February 11, 2018 07:39 PM (2DOZq)

270 Jewells45
You b rite, no sweat just focus on you during relaxation just relax. Your creative and that juice never stops, morp baby.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 07:39 PM (7ZiDC)

271 261 250 Weasel Acres is the place for me!
Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 07:33 PM (ewxPW)

Weasel living is the life for me
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:36 PM (NWiLs)

We should ask Muldoon to do a full "Weasel Acres."

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 07:39 PM (398bZ)

272 all you clowns are invited!
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:38 PM (Sfs6o)



*grabs hostess gift bottle of Valu-Rite*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 07:40 PM (9SkN+)

273 268
261 250 Weasel Acres is the place for me!
Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 07:33 PM (ewxPW)

Weasel living is the life for me
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:36 PM (NWiLs)
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all you clowns are invited!
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:38 PM (Sfs6o)

Weasel, you are a gracious gentlemoron in the best sense of the word.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:41 PM (2sCft)

274 I wish Trump would start stylin his Stetson both guns barreling, that ice cream ain't just ice cream in the heat.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 07:41 PM (7ZiDC)

275 WWl museum in KC has a ton of weapons. It surprised me that the caliber of choice 100 years ago was 8mm.
(Everyone except us)... that would be around a .31.

Posted by: MarkY at February 11, 2018 07:42 PM (NDlpU)

276 Every cap and ball shot is an odd ball.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 11, 2018 07:42 PM (KXVP7)

277 Posted by: Arbalest - GNAMM Survivor at February 11, 2018 07:37 PM (FlRtG)
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Absolutely the chambering with headspace variation and necessarily 'loose' chambers owing to battle conditions. I have pulled apart surplus M2 ball ammo and weighed the charges and found 5 to 6 grain differences.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:42 PM (Sfs6o)

278 Looks like my Tanfoglio Witness in .45 is one of the lot with a defective safety. Which might explain last week's shenanigans. There's a recall out for my serial number range. I just hope they're going to pay shipping costs.

Can't wait to get that fixed.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:42 PM (xJa6I)

279 Churchill's hat: too tall for a bowler, not quite a top hat. Does it have a name?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 07:43 PM (9SkN+)

280 Hello, Horde! Just back from the range. New sight on an M-1 Carbine. Not too bad, I'll have to drift it over a smidge tomorrow, tho. Now, to read the content and comments.

McGyver, Out

Posted by: McGyver at February 11, 2018 07:43 PM (5HYYq)

281 all you clowns are invited!
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:38 PM (Sfs6o)

With a gracious offer like that, who could resist? Seriously it would make for one hell of a meet up.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:43 PM (NWiLs)

282 264 It could,also be the powder you're using. Some meter better than others. 'Stick' powder generally meters better than 'flake' powder. I use Harrell's powder measures to dump 99.5% of my desired charge weight then trickle powder by the speck onto a very sensitive scale until I am at precisely the charge weight I'm looking for. Non-neurotic people don't torture themselves this way.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:37 PM (Sfs6o)


The cheap Lee does better with ball power like Win-748 than it does with IMR stick powder.

I'm thinking about getting a trickler and doing what you describe. I'm also a bit neurotic about that kind of stuff.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 07:43 PM (DNH+H)

283 Raven?
Posted by: Winston at February 11, 2018 07:36 PM (nBBdT)

Haha.....the RG Raven 25 was a gem compared to the RG10.

Lots of former convenience store clerks are alive today because the RG stood for "rotten gun". Misfire heaven.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 07:44 PM (EoRCO)

284 WWl museum in KC has a ton of weapons. It surprised me that the caliber of choice 100 years ago was 8mm.

I've been there twice. It's a beautiful museum and so very informative. I really enjoyed it.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 07:44 PM (dUJdY)

285 With a gracious offer like that, who could resist? Seriously it would make for one hell of a meet up.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:43 PM (NWiLs)



I'm picturing something like the Bohemian Club, where everyone runs around and takes a leak on a tree.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 07:44 PM (9SkN+)

286 bit of a drive for me here in Lost Angels to get to Weasel Acres.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 07:44 PM (tCf58)

287 I've never reloaded, but I guarantee you I'd be one of the most anal-retentive people ever on powder measurement. Nobody wants a kaboom.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:45 PM (NWiLs)

288 Thanks, I see that Brownells has them for $300. That's in the "Buy once, cry once" category for me, but if it gets the job done, maybe worth it. The cheap Lee I have drives me crazy.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 07:36 PM (DNH+H)
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Redding and Hornady powder drops are fine too and are much less expensive. If you are really interested in consistency then dump most of the charge and trickle powder up to the desired charge weight.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:45 PM (Sfs6o)

289 The only non-Ruger product I have is a Browning shotgun for quail.

Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 11, 2018 07:26 PM (6Gm6W)
Bobwhite?

Posted by: clutch at February 11, 2018 07:45 PM (kiSdp)

290 There is the most recent article from Sundance at the Treehouse and a clip of Marie lying through her teeth at time she was at State.

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:46 PM (aC6Sd)

291 The RG talk made me remember a Jennings .25 I once owned.
The Yugo of handguns.

Posted by: MarkY at February 11, 2018 07:46 PM (NDlpU)

292 I use Harrell's powder measures to dump 99.5% of my desired charge weight . . .

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:37 PM (Sfs6o)


How close can you get with the Harrell with something like 4895? I see half a grain variance from charge to charge with the Lee and 4895.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 07:46 PM (DNH+H)

293 Honey, we love you but give us the best barbeque!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 07:46 PM (ewxPW)

294 Mosin is my grand baby's name. She was fussy for awhile maybe it was slight diaper rash.

I love the fact that all daughters and granddaughters give her a squeeze, tickle me.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 07:46 PM (7ZiDC)

295 291 The RG talk made me remember a Jennings .25 I once owned.
The Yugo of handguns.
Posted by: MarkY at February 11, 2018 07:46 PM (NDlpU)

I'm just glad you survived! A Jennings...
*shudder*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:47 PM (xJa6I)

296 286 bit of a drive for me here in Lost Angels to get to Weasel Acres.
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 07:44 PM (tCf5
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Road trip!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:47 PM (Sfs6o)

297 The Mk. II Gyrojet (.49 caliber) is the most obscure (as in difficult to find/procure) I have.

The .41 Magnum is NOT an obscure caliber. Among the cognoscenti, it is celebrated.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2018 07:48 PM (DMUuz)

298 And whereabouts is Weasel Acres, anyhow?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:48 PM (NWiLs)

299 285 With a gracious offer like that, who could resist? Seriously it would make for one hell of a meet up.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:43 PM (NWiLs)


I'm picturing something like the Bohemian Club, where everyone runs around and takes a leak on a tree.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 07:44 PM (9SkN+)

Can do!

Seriously, thanks Weasel. If I ever get to VA, I will make arrangements with ya.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:48 PM (xJa6I)

300 295 291 The RG talk made me remember a Jennings .25 I once owned.
The Yugo of handguns.
Posted by: MarkY at February 11, 2018 07:46 PM (NDlpU)

I'm just glad you survived! A Jennings...
*shudder*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:47 PM (xJa6I)

Made in California, per wikipedia. Interesting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 07:49 PM (ycWCI)

301 288 Redding and Hornady powder drops are fine too and are much less expensive. If you are really interested in consistency then dump most of the charge and trickle powder up to the desired charge weight.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:45 PM (Sfs6o)


Thanks.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 07:50 PM (DNH+H)

302 296 286 bit of a drive for me here in Lost Angels to get to Weasel Acres.
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 07:44 PM (tCf5
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Road trip!
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:47 PM (Sfs6o)

redc1c4: your in Kalifornia? What's the deal with the new ammo control laws? Affecting you much?

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:50 PM (2sCft)

303 The Mk. II Gyrojet (.49 caliber) is the most obscure (as in difficult to find/procure) I have.

The .41 Magnum is NOT an obscure caliber. Among the cognoscenti, it is celebrated.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2018 07:48 PM (DMUuz)

Does anyone even make the rocket ammo for the gyrojets?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 07:50 PM (ycWCI)

304 And whereabouts is Weasel Acres, anyhow?
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Near Hootersville!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 07:50 PM (ewxPW)

305 Gun song list is lame, and several of them are clearly anti-gun. How about: Roland The Headless Thompson Gunner, Big Iron, by Marty Robbins, any one of several Johnny Cash songs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 07:51 PM (Dbv1R)

306 228 reads and faints

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:29 PM (aC6Sd)
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it gets better: we weren't even looking for it.

i was doing a price check for something at one of the local toy stores, and Gun Broker just dragged it across my screen.

they know us well, apparently.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 07:51 PM (tCf58)

307 300 295 291 The RG talk made me remember a Jennings .25 I once owned.
The Yugo of handguns.
Posted by: MarkY at February 11, 2018 07:46 PM (NDlpU)

I'm just glad you survived! A Jennings...
*shudder*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:47 PM (xJa6I)

Made in California, per wikipedia. Interesting.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 07:49 PM (ycWCI)

Yeah, used to be a free country there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:52 PM (xJa6I)

308 281 all you clowns are invited!
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:38 PM (Sfs6o)

With a gracious offer like that, who could resist? Seriously it would make for one hell of a meet up.
---

Quad 50's Only!
Repeat, Quad 50's Only!
Ready on the Right?
Ready on the Left?

Fire!

Posted by: Pogomip at February 11, 2018 07:53 PM (3Feok)

309 The Mk. II Gyrojet (.49 caliber) is the most obscure (as in difficult to find/procure) I have.

The .41 Magnum is NOT an obscure caliber. Among the cognoscenti, it is celebrated.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2018 07:48 PM (DMUuz)

Wow...the Gyrojet. Cool, haven't heard that name in quite a while.

Rocket rounds are out there somewhere....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 07:53 PM (EoRCO)

310 297 The Mk. II Gyrojet (.49 caliber) is the most obscure (as in difficult to find/procure) I have.

The .41 Magnum is NOT an obscure caliber. Among the cognoscenti, it is celebrated.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2018 07:48 PM (DMUuz)

It's what the main character carries in Libertarian sci-fi tract 'The Probability Broach'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:53 PM (xJa6I)

311 Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:46 PM (aC6Sd)

In the comments after that article they say two Russians involved in Uranium 1 are dead in a place crash. More Arkancide or Putin Power?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2018 07:54 PM (8+Ozj)

312 Gun song list is lame, and several of them are clearly anti-gun. How about: Roland The Headless Thompson Gunner, Big Iron, by Marty Robbins, any one of several Johnny Cash songs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 07:51 PM (Dbv1R)
*******************

Hey sport, you any good with dice?

Posted by: Stagger Lee at February 11, 2018 07:54 PM (mt2jL)

313 287 I've never reloaded, but I guarantee you I'd be one of the most anal-retentive people ever on powder measurement. Nobody wants a kaboom.

We may not agree on some things but I do understand, you perserve. Your on target, life is weird that way all the plus and minus.

Have to agree with you anal on measurement is, not to be dismissed. Yes, were talkin about sugar in the container, misfire is the least of the concern, nobody with any sense wants to go hot.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 07:55 PM (7ZiDC)

314 311 Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 07:46 PM (aC6Sd)

In the comments after that article they say two Russians involved in Uranium 1 are dead in a place crash. More Arkancide or Putin Power?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2018 07:54 PM (8+Ozj)

If you were to bet, where would you put your money, Fen?

Russian's been doing 'death by plane' quite a bit recently. Just as the Poles.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:55 PM (xJa6I)

315 That flame thrower doesn't shoot far enough.


Posted by: Cannibal Bob - cluelessly riding the 'short bus' of life at February 11, 2018 06:41 PM (70cRb)

It's nothing more than a lame blowtorch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 07:56 PM (Dbv1R)

316
How close can you get with the Harrell with something like 4895? I see half a grain variance from charge to charge with the Lee and 4895.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 07:46 PM (DNH+H
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It's a little hard to quantify, but it is definitely the most consistently accurate. Probably to some fraction of a grain. I always drop the charge a little light -say maybe .3 gr and trickle up to my desired charge. I'm not kidding when I say I measure out to the single speck of powder.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:56 PM (Sfs6o)

317 two Russians involved in Uranium 1 are dead in a plane crash
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The crash just today? 71 dead I last saw. If yes, then wow... just wow.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 07:56 PM (ewxPW)

318 In the comments after that article they say two Russians involved in Uranium 1 are dead in a place crash. More Arkancide or Putin Power?

Holy shit. Coinky dink?

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 11, 2018 07:57 PM (dUJdY)

319 314 If you were to bet, where would you put your money, Fen?

Russian's been doing 'death by plane' quite a bit recently. Just as the Poles.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:55 PM (xJa6I)

Good point. The Poles lost like the majority of their leadership and cabinet in that plane crash, didn't they?

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:57 PM (2sCft)

320 Slap Weasel can I come, is the line ready?

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 07:57 PM (7ZiDC)

321 "Does it have a name?"

He loved that hat.

He even named it 'Brad'

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 11, 2018 07:57 PM (EyPfd)

322 Does anyone even make the rocket ammo for the gyrojets?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 07:50 PM


No. Mk. II rounds are going for upwards of $100/ea. these days. The Mk. I rounds even more.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 11, 2018 07:57 PM (DMUuz)

323 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 07:55 PM (xJa6I)

With people dying in mysterious and convenient ways it could be either one of those people.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2018 07:57 PM (8+Ozj)

324 Never trust the Rooskies or the Clinton Crime Family!!!

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:58 PM (2sCft)

325
298 And whereabouts is Weasel Acres, anyhow?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:48 PM (NWiLs)
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Central Virginia - Appomattox County.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)

326 315 That flame thrower doesn't shoot far enough.

It's nothing more than a lame blowtorch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 07:56 PM (Dbv1R)


Kind of like those weed killer torches. Except with the Tesla name and Elon seal of approval.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 07:58 PM (DNH+H)

327 our in Kalifornia? What's the deal with the new ammo control laws?
Affecting you much?

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:50 PM (2sCft)
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the state is still FUBAR about promulgating details. the CRPA and NRA/ILA are going to file a suit (i personally know one of the plaintiffs) but haven't pulled the trigger on it yet. said person is going hunting with the big wigs next Caturday, all the way down in El Centro, so i should have an update for the gub thread next Sunday.

so far, the only real effect we've suffered is passing up good deals for ammo online. we have a few boxes of this in that in the garage, so we are just waiting to see what happens right now.

IIRC, the background checks, etc, start next year. this year it's *just* the interstate shipment prohibition, which is, of course, unconstitutional on its face. state regulation of interstate commerce being specifically prohibited.

we shall see. the lawyer i talked to said their stratergery was to "lose all the way to SCOTUS". we are, after all, talking about the 9th Circus.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 07:59 PM (tCf58)

328 323 With people dying in mysterious and convenient ways it could be either one of those people.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2018 07:57 PM (8+Ozj)

As they say, Fen, embrace the power of "AND". Win-Win for both of them.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 07:59 PM (2sCft)

329
My favorite oddball caliber is the .303 British - I have a WWII Enfield
rifle chambered in that round. Like a 30-06, a bit softer. Also, the 7.5
x 55mm Swiss - have a Swiss-made bolt-action rifle for that one, too.
And let's welcome newcomer .17HMR! Haven't fired that one yet.

Posted by: rfitz3 at February 11, 2018 06:41 PM (yfvd5)

.303 is really only oddball in the USA. In the rest of the English-speaking world, it is very commonplace. Probably the largest single cause of venison dinners in Canada for 50 years.

I had one, until that tragic skidoo accident.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 08:00 PM (Dbv1R)

330 two Russians involved in Uranium 1 are dead in a plane crash
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The crash just today? 71 dead I last saw. If yes, then wow... just wow.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 07:56 PM (ewxPW)

More bodies associated with the Clinton Crime family.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 08:01 PM (EoRCO)

331 325 Central Virginia - Appomattox County.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)

Forgive my Southern Oregon ignorance: is that where the Appomattox Courthouse if found, where the papers were signed to end the Civil War?

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 08:01 PM (2sCft)

332 @SteveOReno

They did. And they even named Russia as the culprit.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:01 PM (xJa6I)

333 X Products has a flamethrower.

they're illegal here in #Failifornia, of course.

true story: years ago i saw an ad in Shotgun News for NIB flamethrowers, straight from the PRC.

i decided i didn't want to trust my life to ChiCom qwality control containing several gallons of gasoline strapped to my back.

https://www.xproducts.com/product/xm42-flame-thrower/

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 08:02 PM (tCf58)

334 We may not agree on some things but I do understand, you perserve. Your on target, life is weird that way all the plus and minus.

I jam, too!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:02 PM (NWiLs)

335 325
298 And whereabouts is Weasel Acres, anyhow?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 07:48 PM (NWiLs)
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Central Virginia - Appomattox County.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)

Roger. Someday perhaps. Someday.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:03 PM (NWiLs)

336
320 Slap Weasel can I come, is the line ready?
Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 07:57 PM (7ZiDC)
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Slap is the other Weasel but sure you can come. I think at first it's going to be very small groups - maybe 3 or 4 at a time. Any more than that and no one learns anything.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:03 PM (Sfs6o)

337 Gun owners stupid. If you good, superheroes protect you. You no need gun. If you bad guy, gun won't help you: all superherhoes bulletproof. Hulk support repeal of second amendment.

Posted by: Hulk at February 11, 2018 08:04 PM (2835Q)

338 336 Slap is the other Weasel but sure you can come. I think at first it's going to be very small groups - maybe 3 or 4 at a time. Any more than that and no one learns anything.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:03 PM (Sfs6o)

Slap maintains the Horde's prayer list. He's a good egg. Not sure his thoughts on guns...

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 08:04 PM (2sCft)

339 I think that's Churchill's Homburg hat but with the crown not dented-in as usual.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 08:05 PM (ewxPW)

340 Very late to the comments, but I hope everyone noticed the perfect crease in Sir Winstons pants. Probably the major reason for his success in government!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 08:05 PM (gwPgz)

341 331 325 Central Virginia - Appomattox County.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)

Forgive my Southern Oregon ignorance: is that where the Appomattox Courthouse if found, where the papers were signed to end the Civil War?
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 08:01 PM (2sCft)
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The very same! The old courthouse is is not far from my place.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:05 PM (Sfs6o)

342
all you clowns are invited!
Posted by: Weasel


Reach out

https://youtu.be/yt6DvapiK-w

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 11, 2018 08:06 PM (IqV8l)

343 340 Very late to the comments, but I hope everyone noticed the perfect crease in Sir Winstons pants. Probably the major reason for his success in government!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 11, 2018 08:05 PM (gwPgz)

Didn't know David Brooks was lurking here with his Hrothgar sock on. How was the adult summer camp, David??

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 08:06 PM (2sCft)

344 326
Kind of like those weed killer torches. Except with the Tesla name and Elon seal of approval.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 07:58 PM (DNH+H)


Actually, they have The Boring Company logo.

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 08:07 PM (sdi6R)

345 Quad 50's Only!
Repeat, Quad 50's Only!
Ready on the Right?
Ready on the Left?

Fire!
---
BTW, That is a quote from the last Hiram Maxim Shoot I attended.

Posted by: Pogomip at February 11, 2018 08:07 PM (3Feok)

346 Any love here for the .270 win round? I have an old Savage that I used as my main hunting rifle back in the day. With money becoming a little less strained I'm trying to decide to refurbish it or go with something different.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 11, 2018 08:08 PM (KxxpQ)

347 Here you go, Hrothgarv... linked in my sock.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 11, 2018 08:08 PM (ewxPW)

348 I gave a Raven to a friend at work back in the 70's. I said 'Tim, don't carry this thing in you back pocket. It'll shoot you in the ass. If you put it in a front pocket it may shoot you in the nuts or possibly the foot. In fact, don't carry it at all. Put it in the glove box of your truck.'

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2018 08:08 PM (zLDYs)

349
Then what's the difference between Extra Large Eggs and JUMBO Eggs?!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:08 PM (rW4yT)

350 341 Forgive my Southern Oregon ignorance: is that where the Appomattox Courthouse if found, where the papers were signed to end the Civil War?
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 08:01 PM (2sCft)
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The very same! The old courthouse is is not far from my place.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:05 PM (Sfs6o)

Extra Cool! Another good reason for a road trip. I have only been to one civil war battlefield memorial in Vicksburg, Mississippi. I'd like to go to some others before all those confederate statues get removed in the dark of night by the SJW's in concert with the Demonrats and the GOPe.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 08:09 PM (2sCft)

351
Reach out

https://youtu.be/yt6DvapiK-w
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 11, 2018 08:06 PM (IqV8l)
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Yep. If you hear the bullet you weren't the target.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:09 PM (Sfs6o)

352 Then what's the difference between Extra Large Eggs and JUMBO Eggs?!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:08 PM (rW4yT)


Oh man, don't get me started on olives.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 08:09 PM (9SkN+)

353
"Why" needs to be asked, "Why 7.62mm and not just standardize on .308 Win or .300 Savage?" The "modern propellant" argument (shorter case with same performance)is too early for 1955.
------------

There are minor differences (particularly headspace spec), and I would not recommend firing .308 in an M1A, but I wouldn't be afraid to do it either, particularly if it were factory fresh brass.

A lateral question would be why didn't Armalite design the AR to use the .222 Remington? Therein lies a fascinating tale (in a geeky gun nut sort of way):

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yaj9nny2

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 08:10 PM (c/EDo)

354 The flamethower thing does not comfortably separate Elan Musk from Hank Scorpio.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 11, 2018 08:10 PM (rnAwa)

355 Then what's the difference between Extra Large Eggs and JUMBO Eggs?!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:08 PM (rW4yT)

The hen knows......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 08:10 PM (EoRCO)

356 346 Any love here for the .270 win round? I have an old Savage that I used as my main hunting rifle back in the day. With money becoming a little less strained I'm trying to decide to refurbish it or go with something different.
Posted by: Beartooth at February 11, 2018 08:08 PM (KxxpQ)

Fine deer round. My cousin Phil hunts with it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:10 PM (xJa6I)

357 346 Any love here for the .270 win round? I have an old Savage that I used as my main hunting rifle back in the day. With money becoming a little less strained I'm trying to decide to refurbish it or go with something different.
Posted by: Beartooth at February 11, 2018 08:08 PM (KxxpQ)
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Have you considered chambering a new barrel to some other caliber?

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:11 PM (Sfs6o)

358 Top 10 gun songs???

Are you f***ing kidding? The great Marty Robbins's "Big Iron on His Hip" clearly ranks ahead of any of the six songs on that list that I have never heard of.

Posted by: Jeff W at February 11, 2018 08:12 PM (GUpUO)

359 Not that there is anything wrong with the .270, but there are other options if you want something different.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:12 PM (Sfs6o)

360 337 Gun owners stupid. If you good, superheroes protect you. You no need gun. If you bad guy, gun won't help you: all superherhoes bulletproof. Hulk support repeal of second amendment.
Posted by: Hulk at February 11, 2018 08:04 PM (2835Q)

Didn't the Punisher kill you in Secret Wars?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:12 PM (xJa6I)

361 355 The hen knows......
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 08:10 PM (EoRCO)

Well said.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 08:12 PM (2sCft)

362 Yep. If you hear the bullet you weren't the target.
Posted by: Weasel
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Unless, it is a subsonic round. Just Saying.

Posted by: Mossad at February 11, 2018 08:12 PM (c/EDo)

363 --------
Slap is the other Weasel

Now, now. Weasels? To me, you both seem like nice guys :^) After all, you gave me a horde cookbook because I was special poster # ____. and he keeps the prayer list.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2018 08:12 PM (8+Ozj)

364 Comfort Support Gun?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at February 11, 2018 08:13 PM (rdl6o)

365 Daisy VL .22 air compression-heated ignited ammo. I have one of the Daisy rifles and about 800 rounds.

Bought it all in the mid-nineties. Fired some and the gun and ammo worked a-ok at that time. I need to get it out and see if the ammo still fires. I don't think there is any safety issue with that 40 or 50 year old "powder". Worst that should happen is a no-fire or squib with the bullet stuck.

Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2018 08:13 PM (AMIL/)

366 I have a Uruguayan 6.5 Daudetau, which is a French modification of the 1874 Mauser that was first developed for the French navy . . . but they didn't buy it so it was modified again for the Uruguayan army, which was looking for something in a modern carbine.

However, they bought one batch and realized that "something modern" really meant something that wasn't a single shot bolt action rifle. It is not a cartridge that is carried at Dicks or Sportsman's Guide.

Oh, and 11mm Gras, 11mm Beaumont and a 71/84 Mauser in .43 (11mm) Mauser.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2018 08:14 PM (2K6fY)

367 I bet we could come up with 1000s of gun songs. Would "Gimmie back my bullets" count?

Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2018 08:14 PM (UdKB7)

368 Daisy VL .22 air compression-heated ignited ammo. I have one of the Daisy rifles and about 800 rounds.

Compass in the stock?

Posted by: Ralphie at February 11, 2018 08:14 PM (9SkN+)

369 @ Mark Andrew Edwards

Thanks for the recommendation on the Glock, 42.

Hope to get Mrs. texcat to test it, soon. Store we patron has it (with laser) $540...without laser, $490.

Posted by: texcat at February 11, 2018 08:14 PM (wf3RQ)

370 Not that there is anything wrong with the .270, but there are other options if you want something different.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:12 PM (Sfs6o)

Would a 7.62 x 39 be possible?

Posted by: Beartooth at February 11, 2018 08:15 PM (KxxpQ)

371 369 @ Mark Andrew Edwards

Thanks for the recommendation on the Glock, 42.

Hope to get Mrs. texcat to test it, soon. Store we patron has it (with laser) $540...without laser, $490.
Posted by: texcat at February 11, 2018 08:14 PM (wf3RQ)

Hope you like it! It impressed me quite a bit.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:16 PM (xJa6I)

372 Also, the 7.5
x 55mm Swiss - have a Swiss-made bolt-action rifle for that one, too.

------------------

Yep, I have one of those and shoot it on a semi-regular basis in High Power matches.

Keep it tucked tight to the shoulder, though, or you will be sporting a nice bruise.

Posted by: Blake at February 11, 2018 08:16 PM (WEBkv)

373 Sorry the Daudetau was a caliber modification of the 1874 Mauser action that was offered to the French navy. The original 1874 Mauser design was developed and used by the (various) German states.

I hate being unclear.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2018 08:16 PM (2K6fY)

374
Extra Cool! Another good reason for a road trip. I have only been to one civil war battlefield memorial in Vicksburg, Mississippi. I'd like to go to some others before all those confederate statues get removed in the dark of night by the SJW's in concert with the Demonrats and the GOPe.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 11, 2018 08:09 PM (2sCft)
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No shortage of civil war places in Virginia. I grew up not far from the Manassas Battlefield and could find Minie balls and assorted buttons and buckles and shell fragments in the woods

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:17 PM (Sfs6o)

375
We're not still warring over egg size from 2 weeks ago?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:17 PM (rW4yT)

376
Now we're fighting over Olive sizes?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:17 PM (rW4yT)

377 Fine deer round. My cousin Phil hunts with it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:10 PM (xJa6I)

It also worked well on elk

Posted by: Beartooth at February 11, 2018 08:18 PM (KxxpQ)

378 Now we're fighting over Olive sizes?

I can never remember whether Mammoth is bigger than Super Colossal, or vice versa

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 08:18 PM (9SkN+)

379 Russians do have a history of offing people in their way

Posted by: Skip at February 11, 2018 08:18 PM (aC6Sd)

380 Mrs. E hunts with a .270 Savage since she put her custom Mauser conversion (which she did herself while attending Trinidad College in Raton, NM years ago) in the back of the safe.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2018 08:19 PM (zLDYs)

381 Any love here for the .270 win round?
Posted by: Beartooth
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Plenty. Jack O'Connor held the .270 in very high esteem, and regarded it as adequate for any N. American big game. Very versatile round, depending on loading. O'Connor probably knew as much about firearms and hunting as any man alive has ever known.


Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 08:19 PM (7ThJ3)

382 Does anyone have an opinion about CDNN sports, online purveyor of guns and such?

They have quite a good deal on a firearm I'm interested in but don't know if they're a risk or not.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 11, 2018 08:19 PM (z79tQ)

383 I looked at the list, and most of the songs are indeed anti-gun.

I'm surprised they didn't include Gang of Four's "Armalite Rifle" (which is also anti-gun):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7xtltFBAMw

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 08:20 PM (sdi6R)

384 370 Not that there is anything wrong with the .270, but there are other options if you want something different.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:12 PM (Sfs6o)

Would a 7.62 x 39 be possible?
Posted by: Beartooth at February 11, 2018 08:15 PM (KxxpQ)
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It depends on a few things, mostly the length of the cartridge and whether the rifle has a magazine. I'd recommend you talk to a gunsmith.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:20 PM (Sfs6o)

385 Thompsons!

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at February 11, 2018 08:21 PM (h7sWp)

386 382 Does anyone have an opinion about CDNN sports, online purveyor of guns and such?

They have quite a good deal on a firearm I'm interested in but don't know if they're a risk or not.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 11, 2018 08:19 PM (z79tQ)

I have purchased firearms and ammo from them in the past.

Didn't have any trouble.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:21 PM (xJa6I)

387 I don't like those big giant olives. They don't taste right.

Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2018 08:22 PM (UdKB7)

388 Fuck Haley Barbour in the squeakhole. POS pardoned a whole buncha people his last day as MS gubner, including some murderers. It was so bad of an abuse, the legislature removed most pardon power from the gubner.

Oh, and he's a GOPer in the vein of Mitch the Turtle.

*spits in his general direction*

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 11, 2018 08:23 PM (0ogQG)

389 382 Does anyone have an opinion about CDNN sports, online purveyor of guns and such?

They have quite a good deal on a firearm I'm interested in but don't know if they're a risk or not.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 11, 2018 08:19 PM (z79tQ)

Yes. I've ordered several things from them over the years and they've always been solid.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:23 PM (NWiLs)

390
"And all those people who put me down
You better get ready to run,
'cause I'm gonna get me a gun "

Ya know who wrote that? The artist formally known as Cat Stevens.

Posted by: freaked at February 11, 2018 08:24 PM (UdKB7)

391

There are other big giant things that don't taste right, either.

For instance, a big giant strawberry.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:25 PM (rW4yT)

392 Churchill ripping away with a Thompson. Great picture. Looks like a 1928A1, but I'm a tad rusty.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 08:25 PM (aMlLZ)

393

Obscure calibers: any of the 4 Mars Automatic Pistol calibers.

Approximately 80 Mars pistols of all types were made, apparently none were ever sold, as no examples have British proof marks. The .45 version was finally exceeded by the .44 Magnum.

The gun is essentially a scaled-down 12" naval gun system, including ammo hoist mechanism, fitted with a hand grip. The designer used a 4-lug rotating bolt instead of a proper Welin breechblock, but one must make do.

Video of 2 examples at Forgotten Weapons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBKqvLpxpU4

Posted by: Arbalest - GNAMM Survivor at February 11, 2018 08:25 PM (FlRtG)

394 A lot of old blues songs, while not specifically about guns, often feature the use of guns, usually in the context of a bar fight or domestic dispute.

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 08:25 PM (sdi6R)

395 Plenty. Jack O'Connor held the .270 in very high esteem, and regarded it as adequate for any N. American big game. Very versatile round, depending on loading. O'Connor probably knew as much about firearms and hunting as any man alive has ever known.


Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 08:19 PM (7ThJ3)

Being an all round caliber was the reason I bought the rifle in high school. Lots of possibilities based on the load.

Living in Oregon I no longer hunt due to their F, upped regulations and "seasons". I don't get back to Montana much anymore since the parents died.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 11, 2018 08:26 PM (KxxpQ)

396 Central Virginia - Appomattox County.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)
I drove through that area last year coming home from bird dog training. That is a beautiful area.

Posted by: clutch at February 11, 2018 08:26 PM (kiSdp)

397 Love Gun isn't on that list? For shame.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:26 PM (NWiLs)

398 I quit with the olives and suchlike in drinks. Unless it's a bloody mary. Make those in a beer mug with Stoli, V8, Tabasco, lime, woos, worst, oh hell the one that ends with 'shire', celery, pickled green beans, and a couple raw oysters. But no olives.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2018 08:26 PM (zLDYs)

399 "All the other kids with the pumped up kicks, better run, better run, outrun my gun."

Catchy beat, first time I heard that was in a strip club. Now those two (three?) things are cemented together in my head.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:26 PM (xJa6I)

400 The Horde is a veritable trove of info. Thx all for the .308 v. .30-'06 info. I'd seen most of it at some point, but it came together for me tonight.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 08:27 PM (uZ8ZO)

401

Thompson Twins

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 11, 2018 08:28 PM (IqV8l)

402 I have a poster of Churchill posing with a Tommy gun in my place, got it at the Cabinet War Rooms in London

Posted by: josephistan at February 11, 2018 08:28 PM (ANIFC)

403 the only problem we have with CDNN is their, last i checked, steadfast refusal to sell ANY AR weapons, or even parts, into #Failifornia, because of our insane gun laws. in fact, it might be all semi-auto rifles. it's been awhile.

we've bought lots of stuff from them over the years: good prices, great customer service. i recommend them highly.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 08:28 PM (tCf58)

404 I have purchased firearms and ammo from them in the past.

Didn't have any trouble.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:21 PM (xJa6I)

Yes. I've ordered several things from them over the years and they've always been solid.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:23 PM (NWiLs)


Thank you, gentlemen. It's always good to hear from first-hand users.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 11, 2018 08:29 PM (z79tQ)

405 396 Central Virginia - Appomattox County.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 07:58 PM (Sfs6o)
I drove through that area last year coming home from bird dog training. That is a beautiful area.
Posted by: clutch at February 11, 2018 08:26 PM (kiSdp)
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Thanks, it sure is. I got lucky and found a great piece of property on a hill next to the James River with views for miles

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:29 PM (Sfs6o)

406
Unmentioned:

Anti-war - Richie Havens 'Handsome Johnny'

Not worth mentioning:

Leo Kottke - Vaseline Machine Gun

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 08:29 PM (5OO3x)

407

oh hell the one that ends with 'shire

the cherries?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:30 PM (rW4yT)

408
What are those disgustingly sweet cherries called?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:30 PM (rW4yT)

409
The ones in syrup.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:30 PM (rW4yT)

410 > Would a 7.62 x 39 be possible?

Cz-57 bolt action
Ruger Mini-30
AR-15 (BCA15-7.2x39)

and so on...

Posted by: Pogomip at February 11, 2018 08:31 PM (3Feok)

411 I have a poster of Churchill posing with a Tommy gun in my place, got it at the Cabinet War Rooms in London
Posted by: josephistan
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Ah. You've visited the basement.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 08:31 PM (ZpfqO)

412 Then what's the difference between Extra Large Eggs and JUMBO Eggs?!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:08 PM (rW4yT)

About 3 cackles.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 08:31 PM (Dbv1R)

413 Maraschino cherries.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 11, 2018 08:31 PM (MIKMs)

414 About 3 cackles.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 11, 2018 08:31 PM (Dbv1R)

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Why bring Hillary into the gun thread? Or is it the egg thread?

Posted by: Blake at February 11, 2018 08:32 PM (WEBkv)

415 401

Thompson Twins
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 11, 2018 08:28 PM (IqV8l)

Sigh.
Now I have 'Hold Me Now' stuck in my head.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:33 PM (xJa6I)

416 Maraschino?

Posted by: ghost of kari at February 11, 2018 08:33 PM (eY/ez)

417

Imagine this:

Extra Jumbo Eggs.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:33 PM (rW4yT)

418 anyone here ever built a 458 SOCOM upper for an AR?

i know you need a round specific bolt in the BCG, and i have the uppers, just need barrels, etc, and to finish the reloading/gun bench, so i can assemble them, which means i have two or 3 other things to finish first, before i can get to that.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 08:34 PM (tCf58)

419 Sooth, do you mean chere? Like ma chere amour? I think it's Worchestershire, though. Not drinking tonight, up at 0400.

Posted by: Eromero at February 11, 2018 08:34 PM (zLDYs)

420
Yeah, the Shirley Temple cherries.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:34 PM (rW4yT)

421

Don't get me started on Worcestershire sauce.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:34 PM (rW4yT)

422 Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 08:27 PM (uZ8ZO)
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You bet. If you ever have any questions feel free to contact me through the cookbook gmail Acct.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:34 PM (Sfs6o)

423 410 > Would a 7.62 x 39 be possible?

Cz-57 bolt action
Ruger Mini-30
AR-15 (BCA15-7.2x39)

and so on...
Posted by: Pogomip at February 11, 2018 08:31 PM (3Feok)

CMMG Mutant (basically just another AR in 7.62x39). There are a surprising number of platforms for the 7.62x39 other than the AK47.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:34 PM (NWiLs)

424 Imagine this:

Extra Jumbo Eggs.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 11, 2018 08:33 PM (rW4yT)

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Could I buy some pot from you?

Posted by: Pinto at February 11, 2018 08:35 PM (9SkN+)

425 Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:03 PM (Sfs6o)

Weasel, do you have any knowledge of Joe Huffman and his Boomershoot? He gets a lot of help, but sounds like a similar thing you're looking into....

blog.joehuffman.org
www.boomershoot.org

Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at February 11, 2018 08:35 PM (C1NyB)

426 Churchill ripping away with a Thompson. Great picture. Looks like a 1928A1, but I'm a tad rusty.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison
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Oxalic acid can help with that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 08:35 PM (ZpfqO)

427 I have a Ruger Mark II target with a 10.5" bull bbl. At one time I could tear the same hole at 25 yards free hand. My eyes aren't as good as they used to be so I may put a 4X scope on it.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at February 11, 2018 08:36 PM (r+mGZ)

428 Sigh.
Now I have 'Hold Me Now' stuck in my head.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:33 PM (xJa6I)


Removes all ear worms. 100% effective

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_7TMeDTX_U

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 08:36 PM (aMlLZ)

429 @Berserker

Nice guitar work.
The Sabaton rec earlier was quality, too. Thanks.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:40 PM (xJa6I)

430 Homecoming Queen's Got a Gun - Julie Brown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG3yGdQYwqg

Posted by: jabrwok at February 11, 2018 08:40 PM (BlRin)

431 428 Sigh.
Now I have 'Hold Me Now' stuck in my head.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:33 PM (xJa6I)


Removes all ear worms. 100% effective

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_7TMeDTX_U
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 08:36 PM (aMlLZ)


\m/ >
O

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:40 PM (NWiLs)

432
Posted by: Arbalest - GNAMM Survivor at February 11, 2018 08:25 PM (FlRtG)

Cool pistols. Would be... interesting to shoot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 08:40 PM (ycWCI)

433
110 That Thompson weighs more than 12lbs with a loaded mag.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 06:58 PM (2DOZq)

GAINZZZ!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 11, 2018 08:40 PM (e1mEI)

434 DAMN YOU PIXY!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:40 PM (NWiLs)

435 382 Does anyone have an opinion about CDNN sports, online purveyor of guns and such? They have quite a good deal on a firearm I'm interested in but don't know if they're a risk or not. Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 11, 2018 08:19 PM (z79tQ)

I bought something from them once, but damned if I can remember what it was now. It wasn't a gun--some sort of accessory. I don't recall any problems with them.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 08:41 PM (398bZ)

436 \m/ \m/


That'll just have to do.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:41 PM (NWiLs)

437 Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at February 11, 2018 08:35 PM (C1NyB)
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I hadn't heard of that - sounds like a hoot!

I'm mostly interested in precision rifle work as it applies to long range competition. After the World's last summer I think I've decided to hang up my rifles and just shoot for fun for a while. Competitive shooting ends up taking over your whole life and starts being a drag after a few years of dragging your shit all over the place. I do have some skills though and really enjoy helping other shooters.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:41 PM (Sfs6o)

438 My favorite gun song is Shotgun by Southern Culture on the Skids. A glimpse into the White trash mindset and a hilarious chorus. And boy can they play.

A semi-obscure round I've used many times is the .25 WSSM. Very hot round that is outstanding for antelope hunting. Finding the ammunition can be really hit and miss and I despise having to buy different rounds from different manufacturers and of differing bullet weights. Plus these rounds burn out a barrel quick as a wink. So I sold mine and haven't missed it once.

There will always be a few people who counsel me to reload ammo so I will never run out of the rounds I need. I don't wanna. I've got too damn many hobbies already. And I doubt I could do a better job than the folks at Fusion anyway.

Posted by: Major1 at February 11, 2018 08:42 PM (UjIiY)

439 That Thompson weighs more than 12lbs with a loaded mag.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 06:58 PM (2DOZq)

GAINZZZ!
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew
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I was wondering about Bonecrusher's Ruger.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 08:42 PM (ZpfqO)

440 How about

Jenny's Got a Gun

The Night the Lights Went Out In Georgia

Posted by: Donald Trump at February 11, 2018 08:43 PM (2DOZq)

441 Ok, last question of the night. Win 70 or Rem 700 for .308?

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 08:43 PM (uZ8ZO)

442 Second try

\m/ >
O

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:44 PM (NWiLs)

443 How about Bubba shot the Jukebox

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at February 11, 2018 08:44 PM (Q/rPc)

444 Fuck it, I give up.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:44 PM (NWiLs)

445 441 Ok, last question of the night. Win 70 or Rem 700 for .308?
Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 08:43 PM (uZ8ZO)
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700

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:44 PM (Sfs6o)

446 . I do have some skills though and really enjoy helping other shooters.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:41 PM (Sfs6o)
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Weasel is a coach of the highest caliber

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 08:44 PM (oPHf8)

447 That Thompson weighs more than 12lbs with a loaded mag.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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Pfft. So what?

*budda budda budda*

Posted by: Sgt. Rock at February 11, 2018 08:44 PM (ZpfqO)

448
Weasel is a coach of the highest caliber

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 08:44 PM (oPHf
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Pun intended!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:45 PM (Sfs6o)

449 Churchill spent a lot of time at the front in France in WWI. The pic looks like it was taken during WWII, probably '44 or later. Anyone know whether he's in England or the continent in the picture?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 08:45 PM (9SkN+)

450 You Berzerker.. are you buds with Jake E. Lee ..since you own one of his old guitars ?

Posted by: 5/8 Mex at February 11, 2018 08:46 PM (qWll6)

451 Fuck it, I give up.
Posted by: Insomniac
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C'mon, man. Stay with it. It's personal now, man vs. machine.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 08:47 PM (QxXRY)

452 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 08:45 PM (9Sk

I was thinking earlier because he's looking quite svelte. I think he was fat in 44. Just a guess.

Posted by: Donald Trump at February 11, 2018 08:47 PM (2DOZq)

453 Churchill spent a lot of time at the front in France in WWI. The pic looks like it was taken during WWII, probably '44 or later. Anyone know whether he's in England or the continent in the picture?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 08:45 PM (9SkN+)

I think he was in North Africa? trying out some lend lease equipment and such in that photo.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 08:47 PM (EoRCO)

454 451 Fuck it, I give up.
Posted by: Insomniac
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C'mon, man. Stay with it. It's personal now, man vs. machine.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 08:47 PM (QxXRY)
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I LOL'd

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:48 PM (Sfs6o)

455 ><

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:48 PM (NWiLs)

456 Pun intended!
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:45 PM (Sfs6o)
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Of course! But it's also the truth.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 08:49 PM (oPHf8)

457 \m/ \m/
>
O

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:49 PM (NWiLs)

458 Churchill spent a lot of time at the front in France in WWI. The pic looks like it was taken during WWII, probably '44 or later. Anyone know whether he's in England or the continent in the picture?
Posted by: Cicero
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Almost certainly England, on account of the dress and mix of officers. I would guess that it is in the lead-up to Normandy period.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 08:49 PM (QxXRY)

459 Of course! But it's also the truth.
Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 08:49 PM (oPHf
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Aw, shucks. Thanks bluebell

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:49 PM (Sfs6o)

460 Ruger Mini-30
AR-15 (BCA15-7.2x39)

and so on...
Posted by: Pogomip at February 11, 2018 08:31 PM (3Feok)

I have a mini -30. That was why I was thinking about the 7.62 x39 for the Savage. One less caliber to stock

Posted by: Beartooth at February 11, 2018 08:49 PM (KxxpQ)

461
Sorry if this has been asked already, but where was that Churchill picture taken? Those are American officers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 11, 2018 08:49 PM (fZPX8)

462 Gotdamn razzin frazzin barnfarggling sonofabitch!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 11, 2018 08:50 PM (NWiLs)

463 "Going to guess Colt 1903 hammerless."



I have to stay low-cost with guns, but if I ever run into some money I'm going to have a Colt 1903. Dammit.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 07:33 PM (398bZ)



Yeah about three grand I would guess.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 07:35 PM


*looks in safe*

Hmmm.... I do have one of those. Real ivory grips, too.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 11, 2018 08:50 PM (QpTNr)

464 Slap and all Horde

I was able to enjoy heavy metal bands at a fund raiser for a deceased band members family, off duty in security a bonus.

This is one of the finest gun threads I have ever seen, perfection Gentlmen and all. What a warm trove of manly visual. Thank you for hearding the roundup.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 08:51 PM (7ZiDC)

465 Let me answer my own question:

https://tinyurl.com/y8osgjfh



How do they get around them not being registered before 1986?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 11, 2018 08:51 PM (Oi8/G)

466 Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:41 PM (Sfs6o)

I can dig it. I only mentioned it, because he, or some of his help, put on a long range clinic one day of the event. I donno if his "long range" compares to yours, but, there ya go. I've never been out there, but I'd like to.

There's a county cop I am friends with here who does long range training at the Aurora Sportsmen's Club. I've always wanted to take his class, but I can't get the damn planets to align.

Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at February 11, 2018 08:51 PM (C1NyB)

467 This is one of the finest gun threads I have ever seen, perfection Gentlmen and all. What a warm trove of manly visual. Thank you for hearding the roundup.
Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 08:51 PM (7ZiDC)

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We aimz to please, ma'am.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 08:52 PM (9SkN+)

468 You Berzerker.. are you buds with Jake E. Lee ..since you own one of his old guitars ?

Posted by: 5/8 Mex at February 11, 2018 08:46 PM (qWll6)


Noooo, never met him. I got the guitar in a round about way. A former guitar player of mine had it for years, and he got it from a friend out in California who worked in the guitar store it was returned to back in the early 80's. Jake E Lee wanted a charvel with a fender style headstock, and this one had the Jackson style headstock, so he kept it for a little bit and eventually traded it in. The dude that worked in the store got it, sold it to my old guitar player who gigged with it for years, and I ended up with it eventually.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 08:53 PM (aMlLZ)

469 Yeah, I don't think you'd find a Brit officer in a long coat in a North Africa.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 08:54 PM (9SkN+)

470 449 Churchill spent a lot of time at the front in France in WWI. The pic looks like it was taken during WWII, probably '44 or later. Anyone know whether he's in England or the continent in the picture?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 08:45 PM (9SkN+)


I think it was earlier, maybe even pre-war. The Nazis cropped out the background and used it for propaganda (Churchill was a gangster).

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 08:55 PM (sdi6R)

471 I have a mini -30. That was why I was thinking about the 7.62 x39 for the Savage. One less caliber to stock
Posted by: Beartooth
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*?*

You're thinking of rebarreling the .270?.
Gosh, I'd hate to do that, myself.

Ruger (and perhaps others) bolt actions in 7.62x39 are available for < $400

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 08:55 PM (9tO1t)

472 Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at February 11, 2018 08:51 PM (C1NyB)
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Gotcha. I didn't grow up shooting and in fact have never been hunting. I was mostly just curious about rifle marksmanship and after a couple false starts ended up with one of the best wind coaches in the universe. He and I became friends and I spent countless hours shooting under his 1 on 1 instruction. Then one day I realized I was shooting in an International match with USA on the back of my shirt. Life is funny.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:56 PM (Sfs6o)

473 We are watching some Netflix thing on WW II. Those Nazis were some sick bastards The focus is on Auschwittz, what a horrible bunch of sick bastards.

Now we had some German POWS here in N IL, they were held in Rockford and worked on local farms. These low level guys mostly loved America and some stayed after the war.

Posted by: Farmer at February 11, 2018 08:56 PM (yJ1e6)

474 He and I became friends and I spent countless hours shooting under his 1 on 1 instruction. Then one day I realized I was shooting in an International match with USA on the back of my shirt. Life is funny.
Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:56 PM (Sfs6o)

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Weasel, that is awesome

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 08:57 PM (9SkN+)

475 Those thompsons are a thing of beauty. In all forms.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 08:57 PM (aMlLZ)

476 473 We are watching some Netflix thing on WW II. Those Nazis were some sick bastards The focus is on Auschwittz, what a horrible bunch of sick bastards.

Now we had some German POWS here in N IL, they were held in Rockford and worked on local farms. These low level guys mostly loved America and some stayed after the war.
Posted by: Farmer at February 11, 2018 08:56 PM (yJ1e6)

We had German and Italian POWs in my little Iowa town in WW2.

They built a nativity scene that is still around. Very pretty.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:57 PM (xJa6I)

477 Yeah, I don't think you'd find a Brit officer in a long coat in a North Africa.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 08:54 PM (9SkN+)

Good eye Ci!.......he would be overdressed for Tunisia.

Gotta be somewhere in England then....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 11, 2018 08:58 PM (EoRCO)

478 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 08:53 PM (aMlLZ)

Was that dude Sammy Sanchez from Nadines out in Hollywood ? He used to guitar tech for Ted Nugent.

Posted by: 5/8 Mex at February 11, 2018 08:58 PM (qWll6)

479 *?*

You're thinking of rebarreling the .270?.
Gosh, I'd hate to do that, myself.

Ruger (and perhaps others) bolt actions in 7.62x39 are available for
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 08:55 PM (9tO1t)

That makes sense. I'll just leave the Savage as is a gift it to one of the grandsons one day. The thing only cost $99 back in '77

Posted by: Beartooth at February 11, 2018 09:00 PM (KxxpQ)

480 Churchill was with the troops along the Elbe in early '45. He even insisted on going across even though the allies had only a small bridgehead on the eastern bank. The pic could have been taken in Germany.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 09:00 PM (9SkN+)

481 "Hmmm.... I do have one of those. Real ivory grips, too."

This is about me, isn't it.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 09:01 PM (398bZ)

482 Is it clear now why the Korean War was so brutal in the winter? My uncle Alvin was a POW

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 11, 2018 09:01 PM (6Ll1u)

483 A great pleasure in my providing the opportunity for my granddaughter and to have an opportunity to feel a fed semi auto, 1st jam, we will be right back up. Yes this was led by another women, 1st in line available. Left her an opportunity at the range to hug that once minor jam which was relaxed. They will all be responsible gun owners and artists. I have a few kids and grandkids all are taught to respect the range masters and the toys that bring them security.

What a joy to hold that music. I had guns around the home birth on up, respect. Squirt guns, bubble guns run hide, flags. Thank you all.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 09:02 PM (7ZiDC)

484 This one, with Churchill in the same suit with the Tommy Gun is from 1940 the page says:

https://tinyurl.com/y9oofgn8

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 09:02 PM (ycWCI)

485
Weasel, that is awesome
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 08:57 PM (9SkN+)
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Thanks. It was a really strange path, I will tell you that. There aren't many things a 54 year old tax accountant can do and be competitive at that level. Maybe bowling!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:02 PM (Sfs6o)

486 Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:56 PM (Sfs6o)

"Life is funny..." Ain't that the truth. Never hunted either. Grew up in the suburbs of Mordor. Dad owned an old Lugar, but never was a gun owning family. I have turned a brother, nephew, and ultimately my anti-gun mother to the dark side. Heh.

Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at February 11, 2018 09:04 PM (C1NyB)

487 Is it clear now why the Korean War was so brutal in the winter?

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Was it all the male freestyle figure skating?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 09:04 PM (9SkN+)

488 "Life is funny..." Ain't that the truth. Never hunted either. Grew up in the suburbs of Mordor. Dad owned an old Lugar, but never was a gun owning family. I have turned a brother, nephew, and ultimately my anti-gun mother to the dark side. Heh.
Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at February 11, 2018 09:04 PM (C1NyB)

Good on you!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 09:04 PM (xJa6I)

489 We are watching some Netflix thing on WW II. Those Nazis were some sick bastards The focus is on Auschwittz, what a horrible bunch of sick bastards.
*************


Give us time, we're working on it.

Posted by: Deep State at February 11, 2018 09:04 PM (Q3fP7)

490 469 Yeah, I don't think you'd find a Brit officer in a long coat in a North Africa.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 08:54 PM (9SkN+)
>>>

If you're referring to the officer on the far left, he's an American. Take another look at the cap emblem.

All of the officers except the one on the far right (face hidden by the foregrip) are wearing US Army uniform items.

Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2018 09:05 PM (AMIL/)

491 If you're referring to the officer on the far left, he's an American. Take another look at the cap emblem.

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Yep. You're right.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 09:06 PM (9SkN+)

492 Evidently the Churchill photo was one of 8 propaganda postcards.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 09:06 PM (ycWCI)

493 Now we had some German POWS here in N IL, they were held in Rockford and worked on local farms. These low level guys mostly loved America and some stayed after the war.
Posted by: Farmer at February 11, 2018 08:56 PM (yJ1e6)

We had German and Italian POWs in my little Iowa town in WW2.

They built a nativity scene that is still around. Very pretty.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 08:57 PM (xJa6I)

There was a small German POW camp near Billings. A lot of the farmers in the area were Volga Deutsche. So there was no language barrier when the prisoners worked on the farms.

Posted by: Beartooth at February 11, 2018 09:06 PM (KxxpQ)

494 Read all the comments - rare calibers? - I have a Remington 5mm, no factory ammo for 30 years, no aftermarket for 5, sure is pretty though.

Posted by: Panhandler at February 11, 2018 09:07 PM (ILwW3)

495 Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:02 PM (Sfs6o)

At any rate, please keep us posted on Weasel Acres. I have a sister in Suffolk, so you'd be kinda-sorta-maybe alongbthecway on a road trip.....

Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at February 11, 2018 09:07 PM (C1NyB)

496 Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at February 11, 2018 09:07 PM (C1NyB)
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Will do!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:08 PM (Sfs6o)

497 482 Is it clear now why the Korean War was so brutal in the winter? My uncle Alvin was a POW
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 11, 2018 09:01 PM (6Ll1u)

And our guys were ill-equipped to fight in one of the coldest Korean winters on record. The father of a friend of mine fought at the Chosin Reservoir, so I read up about it when I was a teenager. Those men went through absolute hell.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 09:09 PM (398bZ)

498 Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:56 PM (Sfs6o)
Never been hunting? I hardly ever go shooting any more, maybe a few shells before bird season. Haven't shot my rifles in forever.

Posted by: clutch at February 11, 2018 09:09 PM (kiSdp)

499 Was that dude Sammy Sanchez from Nadines out in Hollywood ? He used to guitar tech for Ted Nugent.


Posted by: 5/8 Mex at February 11, 2018 08:58 PM (qWll6)



I don't know. I don't think so. I'll have to ask my old guitar player next time I talk to him. He knew the dude who scored it originally back when it actually happened. The guitar was already 22-23 years old by the time I got it, but I had spent years and years around it and hearing it almost every day, so it was practically part of my history too, so no way was I letting that sucker go to some worthless nose picker. I said goodbye to it when my old guitar player moved out to California, and after a year he called me and gave me first dibs. I was like yes you can send that to me tomorrow thank you very much.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 09:09 PM (aMlLZ)

500 Is it clear now why the Korean War was so brutal in the winter?
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I blame the Chinese.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:10 PM (cp1if)

501 8x56MS (Mannlicher-Schoenhaeur).

Gorgeous carbine with set triggers and a spoon handle bolt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2018 09:10 PM (wYseH)

502 Wow.

ALONG THE WAY, that is....

Posted by: The Mass Media can EABOD at February 11, 2018 09:10 PM (C1NyB)

503 Girl skater has a tattoo going down inner thigh

Morons, read it for me please

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 09:10 PM (hMwEB)

504 I would want neither but if it was an either / or choice , I would take fighting in the Sahara over fighting in Moscow or Korea in the winter. By a long shot.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 09:12 PM (wWJIH)

505 Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 09:10 PM (hMwEB)

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Did you get your movie program squared away?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 09:12 PM (9SkN+)

506 I have had distant family relations who felt ALL guns should be outlawed. Lesson in divorce you go that direction and we take the pain but we WILL retain the gain.

Divorce court can be a biotch we may lose all that 50/50 split but ya ain't gettin them toys, Severe punishment prevailed but WE RETAIN! Warned with a smile, love ya.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 09:12 PM (7ZiDC)

507 The Chinese.

Posted by: gNewt at February 11, 2018 09:13 PM (Q3fP7)

508 Did you get your movie program squared away?
==

I got a couple of possibilities
still taking suggestions

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 09:13 PM (hMwEB)

509 503 Girl skater has a tattoo going down inner thigh

Morons, read it for me please
Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 09:10 PM (hMwEB)

It says....'open other side first'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 09:13 PM (xJa6I)

510 Cicero, this has got to be in 1942. I cannot identify the leggings worn by the man immediately behind Churchill. Gotta be something that was a personal buy, or some item that was last issued in the Thirties! I can't believe a US Army officer would go around England for long in that oddball item...appearances!

Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2018 09:13 PM (AMIL/)

511
498 Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 08:56 PM (Sfs6o)
Never been hunting? I hardly ever go shooting any more, maybe a few shells before bird season. Haven't shot my rifles in forever.
Posted by: clutch at February 11, 2018 09:09 PM (kiSdp)
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Yep.,,never been. I really do enjoy shooting for,fun but never was able to do it with the match schedule. I started coaching a couple of years ago thinking that would be less hassle than shooting but the opposite was true. Instead of being responsible for me and my gear I had the whole team to worry about. We managed to win one,of the six world championship matches in Ottawa last summer so for a few hours we were the best team in the world. It was about that point that I decided,it was a good time to exit match shooting.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:13 PM (Sfs6o)

512 I would want neither but if it was an either / or choice , I would take fighting in the Sahara over fighting in Moscow or Korea in the winter. By a long shot.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 09:12 PM (wWJIH)

hell yeah.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 09:14 PM (aMlLZ)

513 Churchill's picture is cropped, Eisenhower is in the full picture to the right side, from March 1944 in England

https://tinyurl.com/y6vv4efz

Posted by: Edd Zachary at February 11, 2018 09:14 PM (nwJ90)

514 Great thread tonight, MisHum. Thx.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 11, 2018 09:14 PM (uZ8ZO)

515 rickl

ISTR this was a 1942 picture, at one of the weapon's demonstrations put on by the UK forces for their new allies the US of A.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 09:15 PM (hyuyC)

516 Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 09:09 PM (398bZ)

I have the deepest respect for those guys, right up there with the grunts at Tarawa and Pelilieu. I've only been in Korea for Team Spirit, but the oldest boy spent a month at Camp Rodriguez. In January.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 11, 2018 09:15 PM (hKLAq)

517 Watching 'Victoria'. That's it, I'm smitten by Jenna Coleman.

Please burn this post, lest Mrs. H. read it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:16 PM (FJXGr)

518 504 I would want neither but if it was an either / or choice , I would take fighting in the Sahara over fighting in Moscow or Korea in the winter. By a long shot.

No kidding. My friend's dad was a combat engineer in Korea. He rarely talked about, but occasionally he would talk to us boys.

He said once, while they were sleeping on frozen ground and could never get warm, they were told to turn in their sleeping bags in exchange for three wool blankets each. Too many men were being killed because they couldn't get out of their sleeping bags fast enough, and this was the Army's solution.

He was a very quiet, understated guy. He just said, "Boys, I sure didn't want to turn in that sleeping bag."

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 09:16 PM (398bZ)

519 Edd Zachary

Good find. Belay my last rickl.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 09:16 PM (hyuyC)

520 Absolutely! Thanks MisHum

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:16 PM (Sfs6o)

521 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 09:09 PM (aMlLZ)

Right on. Would love to see it. Got any pics. I bet it's white, right ?
Sammy was/is a well known guitar tech/builder. Working in Hollywood, he got to work on many well known guitar pickers..typically of the metal genre. He installed a Floyd Rose on my mid 70s Strat (big mistake). Every time I would go visit him, he would have a few guitars he was working on, laying around. I got to play the tiger striped George Lynch .. the blue Charvel that belonged to the Bus Boys(Vic Johnson) as seen in the movie 48 Hours. .. and many others. He was well connected. Great guy and great player as well.

Posted by: 5/8 Mex at February 11, 2018 09:17 PM (qWll6)

522 517 Watching 'Victoria'. That's it, I'm smitten by Jenna Coleman.

Please burn this post, lest Mrs. H. read it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:16 PM (FJXGr)

Why, of course. You can trust us!

*blink*
*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 09:18 PM (ycWCI)

523 I have the deepest respect for those guys, right up there with the grunts at Tarawa and Pelilieu. I've only been in Korea for Team Spirit, but the oldest boy spent a month at Camp Rodriguez. In January.

I was in Korea for 18 months in the 70's, but it was no big deal because nobody was trying to kill me. When it got really cold, though, I couldn't help but think about the guys who were there in the war.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 09:18 PM (398bZ)

524 My dad was a Marine in Korea in 51-52. He did not talk much about it. And by much, I mean never.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 09:19 PM (wWJIH)

525 Please burn this post, lest Mrs. H. read it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:16 PM (FJXGr)

Rufus Sewell is nice eye candy for Mrs H

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 09:19 PM (hMwEB)

526 504 I would want neither but if it was an either / or choice , I would take fighting in the Sahara over fighting in Moscow or Korea in the winter. By a long shot.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 09:12 PM (wWJIH)

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I finished The Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajet a few weeks ago. He was a Wehrmacht trooper who went to the Eastern Front in late '42 and fought until the end of the war.

What he described in terms of the cold, the lack of food and the near complete lack of winter equipment was hard to imagine. Sleeping out in the open in -30 weather, constant frostbite, never getting to wash or change his uniform, the lice, ugh. Despite the fact that he was a German soldier participating in the aggressive invasion of a sovereign country, I couldnt help but feel sympathy for him.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 09:20 PM (9SkN+)

527 Churchill's picture is cropped, Eisenhower is in the full picture to the right side, from March 1944 in England

https://tinyurl.com/y6vv4efz
Posted by: Edd Zachary
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*smugly points to 458*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:20 PM (FJXGr)

528 524 My dad was a Marine in Korea in 51-52. He did not talk much about it. And by much, I mean never.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 09:19 PM (wWJIH)

God bless him.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 11, 2018 09:21 PM (398bZ)

529 The .32 Revolver Song
(tune is 'My Favorite Things')

Hopkins and Allen, and old Iver Johnson's,
Forehand and Wordsworth, and blue Smith and Wessons ,
Harrington Richardson's hammerless style
pocket revolvers they made for awhile!

Grips gutta percha with bright Wesson bluing!
squeeze safety handles with top latch undoing;
Merwin and Hulberts eject with a burp,
triggers too stiff to be squeezed by a twerp!

When chased by dogs (either rabid or feral)
use a Velodog stubby, with bicycle barrel!
or Shopkeeper version, or safety police,
all of them useful for keeping the peace!

some were nick-el!

all fit pock-ets!

five shot cyl-in-ders!

Brass Smith medallions on translucent pearlies,
Iver's wise owl head and Gothic script whorlies,
Unmarked old Belgians will give you the slip,
but Harrington's target is there on the grips!

Black powder ammo or new modern smokeless,
gold beaded front sights to keep you in focus,
hundreds of versions for average Joe
The Thirty-Two wheelies they made long ago

*slow crescendo*

The pocket ...revolvers ...that ...everyone ...had!

and they don't ...shoo-o-o-t ...too-o-o... bad!

Thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the veal.











Posted by: retropox at February 11, 2018 09:21 PM (PD4wl)

530 Isn't that the girl from Cali who landed the triple axle? She's Japanese, had her parents on local TV.sushi restaurant.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 11, 2018 09:21 PM (6Ll1u)

531 Despite the fact that he was a German soldier participating in the aggressive invasion of a sovereign country, I couldnt help but feel sympathy for him.
Posted by: Cicero
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He wasn't thrilled to be there. Just another reluctant but willing soldier, being a soldier.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:21 PM (c/EDo)

532 527 Mike Hammer

You were right and I was wrong.



There, that wasn't so hard to say. Like hell.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 09:22 PM (hyuyC)

533 >Ruger (and perhaps others) bolt actions in 7.62x39 are available for

The sweetest, most innocent looking, lightest carrying rifle I, um, used to have was a Cz-57: bolt action, 5 rd mag, fixed iron sights, mounts a Nikkon SlugHunter 3-9 x 45 scope. Very short throw bolt. Best 7.62x39 rifle I ever, um, used to shoot, out to 300 m.

Posted by: Pogomip at February 11, 2018 09:23 PM (Y80AW)

534 retropox - I have an heirloom Iver Johnson, 32 S&W short, 5-shot, nickle plated pocket pistol. It belonged to my grandmother.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:23 PM (c/EDo)

535 My father was in the Marines for eight years and then joined the Air Force so he could learn a skill other than killing as he would joke. Anyway he did comment on the winter gear he had when we were based in South Dakota and North Dakota. Something to the effect of where the hell was this stuff when I really needed.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 09:23 PM (wWJIH)

536
*smugly points to 458*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:20 PM (FJXGr)

>>>

You da man! I found a fuzzy photo of the event with Ike holding an M1 Carbine, and it looks like he's wearing 4 stars, so it ain't in 1942 as I said earlier!

Posted by: Gref at February 11, 2018 09:24 PM (AMIL/)

537 The little Japanese girl skating now is as cute as a bug.

Posted by: Tuna at February 11, 2018 09:24 PM (jm1YL)

538 Yeah, I don't think you'd find a Brit officer in a long coat in a North Africa.

You might if he was fighting Vichy in the Atlas Mountains in winter.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 11, 2018 09:24 PM (6FqZa)

539 The sweetest, most innocent looking, lightest carrying rifle I, um, used to have was a Cz-57: bolt action, 5 rd mag, fixed iron sights, mounts a Nikkon SlugHunter 3-9 x 45 scope. Very short throw bolt. Best 7.62x39 rifle I ever, um, used to shoot, out to 300 m.
Posted by: Pogomip at February 11, 2018 09:23 PM (Y80AW)

This sounds interesting

Posted by: Beartooth at February 11, 2018 09:25 PM (KxxpQ)

540 Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:13 PM (Sfs6o)

Hunting is the next logical step. We (dog and me) have a 2 week trip out west if the bird hatch is good. Big game, if that trips your trigger. I retire in 5 and a half years and I will hunt and fish any ole time I feel like it.

Posted by: clutch at February 11, 2018 09:25 PM (kiSdp)

541 513 Churchill's picture is cropped, Eisenhower is in the full picture to the right side, from March 1944 in England

https://tinyurl.com/y6vv4efz
Posted by: Edd Zachary at February 11, 2018 09:14 PM (nwJ90)


That link doesn't work for me.

Maybe there was more than one photo of Churchill firing a Tommy gun? Because I'm pretty sure the Nazis used them for propaganda earlier in the war.

I'm embracing the power of "and".

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 09:26 PM (sdi6R)

542 He wasn't thrilled to be there. Just another reluctant but willing soldier, being a soldier.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:21 PM (c/EDo)

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Yeah, but he didn't seem to grasp the big picture. He bemoaned the implacable savagery of the Russians. I wondered, does he have any idea what the Germans had done to POWs and civilians in Russia, or what they planned to do to the remaining population if they were victorious?

Yeah, they Russians were probably going to be pretty vindictive.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 09:26 PM (9SkN+)

543 537 The little Japanese girl skating now is as cute as a bug.

Posted by: Tuna at February 11, 2018 09:24 PM (jm1YL)

she's adorable

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 09:26 PM (hMwEB)

544 Posted by: clutch at February 11, 2018 09:25 PM (kiSdp)
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I don't know - I love the outdoors, but I'm really pretty lazy!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:27 PM (Sfs6o)

545 Major General Thomas E Bourke

Salute

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 09:27 PM (7ZiDC)

546 Mike Hammer

You were right and I was wrong.

There, that wasn't so hard to say. Like hell.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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I think of myself as a blind hog..

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:27 PM (FJXGr)

547 To be a fly on the wall for conversation between Churchill and Ike concerning FDR.

Posted by: gNewt at February 11, 2018 09:28 PM (Q3fP7)

548 Mr. Hammer: I have a blue one, mint I-J in the box from 1929. And, as my song suggests, ..too many of the others.
Seems every gun-family has a hand me down .32 short that the granparents used to cap hobo's.

The Belgian folding trigger 'Velodog' for shooting rabid canids chasing a bicycle makes this old microbiologist smile.

Posted by: retropox at February 11, 2018 09:28 PM (PD4wl)

549 Ah, as per usual, mostly miss the gub* thread.


No obscure/oddball calibers here. And probably no more than I now have. All pretty standard fare. 54R for the Mosins is the only even slightly non-mainstream caliber.


And I reload everything. Except shotgun. Or the .223 (since I have only a receiver and some tools - and the dies - but no rifle built).


Many don't seem to realize the immense economies of scale, so to speak, in reloading, if you own various calibers. Often the only additional thing you need is the dies - unless you use very high-end or obscure components, you'll find you already have everything. Just save your brass and buy projectiles.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 11, 2018 09:29 PM (0BFUD)

550 Right on. Would love to see it. Got any pics. I bet it's white, right ?
Sammy was/is a well known guitar tech/builder. Working in Hollywood, he got to work on many well known guitar pickers..typically of the metal genre. He installed a Floyd Rose on my mid 70s Strat (big mistake). Every time I would go visit him, he would have a few guitars he was working on, laying around. I got to play the tiger striped George Lynch .. the blue Charvel that belonged to the Bus Boys(Vic Johnson) as seen in the movie 48 Hours. .. and many others. He was well connected. Great guy and great player as well.


Posted by: 5/8 Mex at February 11, 2018 09:17 PM (qWll6)


Yeah, its white. Its pretty much like the one he used in the bark at the moon video, except for the black faced Jackson style headstock. It has a real old early Duncan distortion pickup that Seymour hand wound. The one mod it had done was a new black pickguard made to convert it to single humbucker guitar and eliminate the other pickups. That was done before I got it.

I think the guitar he's using here is the one he got after the one I have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ8FL2QFhiY

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 09:29 PM (aMlLZ)

551 So, who's outfit should fall off tonight?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 11, 2018 09:30 PM (6Ll1u)

552 Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 11, 2018 09:29 PM (0BFUD)

What is the cost per bullet for 9mm reload?

Retail is about .23 for white box 9mm.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 09:31 PM (wWJIH)

553 who's outfit should fall off tonight?

You missed the night when my PJs ripped.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 11, 2018 09:32 PM (6FqZa)

554 Bed time for me - 'night everyone.

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:32 PM (Sfs6o)

555 Dang, I saw the Bus Boys live once. I don't recall who opened for them or who they were opening for.

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 09:32 PM (sdi6R)

556 Prettiest costume: Japanese girl, runner up American skater

Posted by: Tuna at February 11, 2018 09:32 PM (jm1YL)

557 I don't know - I love the outdoors, but I'm really pretty lazy!

Posted by: Weasel at February 11, 2018 09:27 PM (Sfs6o)
Hunting is a lot less effort than building a range. Plus you settle down in the evening with your cleaned game and a little bourbon to go with it. You will see stars in the sky like crazy. Then again, you prolly do at your place. We will stay in a tent.

Posted by: clutch at February 11, 2018 09:34 PM (kiSdp)

558 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 09:29 PM (aMlLZ)

Are you sure it's not this one ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JBzWZq4fXg

Posted by: 5/8 Mex at February 11, 2018 09:34 PM (qWll6)

559 Night Weasel.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 09:35 PM (ycWCI)

560 Good night, Weasel.

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 09:36 PM (sdi6R)

561 You might if he was fighting Vichy in the Atlas Mountains in winter.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
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Why would anyone do that?

Posted by: Clueless Marshal Petain at February 11, 2018 09:36 PM (QxXRY)

562 Watched the taped men's biathlon sprint. Several of the favorites fell out of contention because they missed 2 or 3 targets (5 per session).


Haven't read up on it, but I think those rifles are verrry expensive Anschutz custom jobs?


Would love to participate in an "historic biathlon" sometime. Normal skis such as those used in WWII on the flatlands, snowshoes, real rifles (54R and 8mm Mauser), steel profile targets at realistic distances, from cover. Heard some talk of such being started a while back, but nothing lately.


The biathlon really is very watchable with all the cameras, and can be quite exciting due to the leverage of the shooting - ski your a** off, have a nice lead - poof, if you miss one or two targets.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 11, 2018 09:36 PM (0BFUD)

563 Thank you for your trucker, bikes, cars flags a flyin. Thank you young and old you are seen. My waves, Bugle boys you are men and make flyin fun, bless you. Keep strong even though play times are hard. So many people see your hunting stickers, etc., you know.

Posted by: Luann at February 11, 2018 09:36 PM (7ZiDC)

564 Canada's skaters are like their bacon, pretty tasty.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 11, 2018 09:37 PM (6Ll1u)

565 Are you sure it's not this one ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JBzWZq4fXg

Posted by: 5/8 Mex at February 11, 2018 09:34 PM (qWll6)

I think that's the same guitar he used in the vid that I posted. I know one thing, somebody fucked with that sound track. No way that's Jake E Lee playing.

The tech that you are talking about. Does he do Satriani's guitars?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 09:38 PM (aMlLZ)

566 Good night Weasel. Sweet dreams.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 11, 2018 09:39 PM (hyuyC)

567 Obscurest calibers are 6.5 Grendel and .45 long colt.

Just got flounder v 2.0 a Henry .22 LR single shot an DC and 2000 rounds of ammo.

That'll learn him. Tin cans, beware.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 11, 2018 09:41 PM (Dp6qK)

568 Watched the taped men's biathlon sprint.
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Okay, I read that as 'bathroom sprint'. Might be a competition for older guys.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:41 PM (5OO3x)

569 And DC = and. Stupid as uotovorrent.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 11, 2018 09:42 PM (Dp6qK)

570 Okay, I read that as 'bathroom sprint'. Might be a competition for older guys.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:41 PM (5OO3x)


You see that a lot in airports. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 09:42 PM (aMlLZ)

571 Sebastian I think you can beat .23/round nowadays (though I don't check frequently, as I haven't bought 9mm factory in years and years). Let's say an even .20/round for sale price, or good factory reloads (which are just as good as factory for most purposes).


Reloading cost all depends on component costs, which can vary. For 9mm I use plated bullets, not lead, so I'm leaving a little $ on the table, but I just wasn't happy with my 9mm lead reloads. I'd say I can do 9mm at about $.10/13/round, even with plated.


I'm an accomplished bargain online component buyer, but my big scores have come on local sales, esp. primers. A few times guys have been moving or getting out of the hobby, and I got primers at half price or less.


9mm

primer = 3.5 cents
bullet = 7 - 8 cents
powder = .5 cent
brass = "free"

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 11, 2018 09:43 PM (0BFUD)

572 ''Watched the taped men's biathlon sprint. ''

That's real winter sport.

Posted by: Tuna at February 11, 2018 09:43 PM (jm1YL)

573 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX6RNlU-qu4

Posted by: blue at February 11, 2018 09:44 PM (IUJbg)

574 Plus you settle down in the evening with your cleaned game ...
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Never been coon hunting in the swamps of SC, have you?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:44 PM (5OO3x)

575 Russian skater is wraring long red gloves
sexy

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 09:45 PM (hMwEB)

576 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at February 11, 2018 09:38 PM (aMlLZ)

Yeah that's one of those "shred" videos.. makes me crack up every time .. Santana one is the best (funniest). Sorry, bad joke. I lost track of Sam when I moved out of Cali many moons ago, so not sure who he worked for after that.

Posted by: 5/8 Mex at February 11, 2018 09:45 PM (qWll6)

577 Here, this is topical now, The Jet Li Maneuver: Berreta disassembly

https://youtu.be/lzEctvL0vrg

Posted by: Kindltot at February 11, 2018 09:46 PM (2K6fY)

578 Holy cow, this Russian girl is a beautiful skater

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 09:46 PM (kNasr)

579 The savings on calibers as you move beyond 9mm can be huge. Again, haven't kept up with factory in most cases, but have a general idea. Reloads for 45ACP, 38 sp, 30 carbine - easily half the cost of factory. 30-06 for the Garand - less than half.


Plus the big thing - though mostly for revolvers - you can customize ammo to your needs. Light loads for training, or getting new shooters acclimated. Etc. Very handy.


flounder reminded me - I do intend to add 45 Colt. Actually bought some ammo before CA's new stupid ammo law, to get the brass, and have some food whenever I get something in that caliber. Initial thoughts are a Henry Big Boy lever rifle, and a Ruger Vaquero. But there's an AR build in line in front of those musings ....

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 11, 2018 09:47 PM (0BFUD)

580 ''Watched the taped men's biathlon sprint. ''

That's real winter sport.


Nice thing about watching German coverage back in the day was that they sucked. So no figure skating!

Posted by: t-bird at February 11, 2018 09:47 PM (7Cr6v)

581 Eisenhower is in the full picture to the right side, from March 1944 in England

https://tinyurl.com/y6vv4efz


That points to an insecure site, which some browsers pick up on.

Posted by: t-bird at February 11, 2018 09:50 PM (NL+DJ)

582 Russia Russia Russia!!!

beautiful skating

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 09:50 PM (hMwEB)

583 552 Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 11, 2018 09:29 PM (0BFUD)

What is the cost per bullet for 9mm reload?

Retail is about .23 for white box 9mm.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 11, 2018 09:31 PM (wWJIH)


9mm is 6 or 7 cents for the bullet, 3.5 cents for the primer and maybe 2 cents for powder. So around 12 cents per pop. This assumes using cast lead bullets and that the cases cost nothing and last forever. I do find that pistol brass lasts a really long time, so the cost for brass approaches zero.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 09:51 PM (DNH+H)

584 469 Yeah, I don't think you'd find a Brit officer in a long coat in a North Africa.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 08:54 PM (9SkN+)

Errrrrr it gets fecking cold in the desert. Got tankie forbears who would tell me that Tunisia was very chilly during standto before dawn. A British warm was essential kit.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at February 11, 2018 09:51 PM (bgJ0E)

585 15 years old. Wow.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 09:52 PM (9SkN+)

586 I have 5 centerfire rifles, ! rimfire, 1 shotgun, and 2 handguns. That is all I need and then some. I do reload for all of them except the 12 guage and the 22LR. If you have the greenbacks and the desire to collect, more power to you. I find I shoot the most in order of frequency 22LR, 8MM, 38 SPL, and 357 Mag.

Posted by: colfax mingo at February 11, 2018 09:52 PM (6knIi)

587 And the hat Sir Winston is wearing is a Homburg I believe.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at February 11, 2018 09:52 PM (bgJ0E)

588 Here, this is topical now, The Jet Li Maneuver: Berreta disassembly

https://youtu.be/lzEctvL0vrg
Posted by: Kindltot
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Cool, and entertaining.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:53 PM (w1zJX)

589 I have a mild crush on Jet Li

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 09:54 PM (hMwEB)

590 I'm a moron.. CZ527 is the rifle. Not CZ57. Alcohol may have been involved.

The point about particular scopes is important- the short throw bolt will not allow many scopes to be mounted. Nikkon SlugHunters work best for this reason.

Posted by: Pogomip at February 11, 2018 09:54 PM (L8q6i)

591 I think Trump was behind throwing the gold medal to the Russian girl. Putin insisted, or else another dossier.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 09:55 PM (9SkN+)

592 Same suit different set of pics. One's w/ Ike the other has men w/pinstripes behind him.

He must have been a gangster.

Posted by: gNewt at February 11, 2018 09:55 PM (Q3fP7)

593 Does anyone understand Olympic skating scoring? Kinda like Olympic gymnastics scoring isn't it? But you don't have East Germany to blame anymore.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 11, 2018 09:55 PM (6Ll1u)

594 rounding up the thread, we bought a Russian biathlon rifle in 22LR from CDNN, because... we didn't have one, for one thing, and it was somewhere around "dirt" in price range.

it hasn't been to the range yet, like a lot of things, but it's out there, somewhere in the toy boxes. i expect it will be more accurate than me, and it has the big paddle flipper to chamber the next round.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 09:55 PM (pJeub)

595 I can't wait for Incredibles 2.

Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 09:55 PM (kNasr)

596 I'm sick and tired of all the SJW bullshit commercials. Thank god for mute.

Posted by: Tuna at February 11, 2018 09:56 PM (jm1YL)

597 I'll stand by you, homeless guy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 09:56 PM (9SkN+)

598 He must have been a gangster.
Posted by: gNewt
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That would explain the Chicago Typewriter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 09:56 PM (5OO3x)

599 ''89 I have a mild crush on Jet Li''

Have you seen him in "Hero'? Love that movie.

Posted by: Tuna at February 11, 2018 09:59 PM (jm1YL)

600 My marksmanship training rifle is a Marlin XT-22. There is a youtube channel where the owner said that he had found that the most accurate 22 ammo for Marlins is CCI - Mini Mags. I can confirm that is also true for my rifle. The 40 Grain Mini Mags shoot about 1.75 MOA ( 5 each 5 shot groups at 100 Yards ) while the 36 grainers are about 2 MOA. Most lead target ammo shoots about 2.2 MOA regardless of price; the $17 for fifty shells Federal Ultra Match doesn't shoot appreciably better than the much less expensive CCI standard velocity out of this rifle.

1.75 MOA is pretty good performance for a $179 .22 bolt gun.

Posted by: An Observation at February 11, 2018 09:59 PM (zoFiL)

601 595 I can't wait for Incredibles 2.
Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 09:55 PM (kNasr)

I can wait, but I am enthused about seeing it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 11, 2018 09:59 PM (Dp6qK)

602 582 Russia Russia Russia!!!

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 11, 2018 09:50 PM (hMwEB)


I bet you voted for Trump.

Posted by: rickl at February 11, 2018 09:59 PM (sdi6R)

603 the CMP put out some more info on 1911s.

bottom line: they got ~8000 guns, the feds changed the requirements for their 1911 building, which they thought was ready, but now isn't. that will take a few weeks.

then guns will be inspected, graded, etc, then, before sales start, there will be (IIRC) a sixty day window where everyone can turn in their packets, after which there will be a random drawing, and lucky purchasers will be contacted, as they come up, as to what is available, and then you get to pick 1 (one) from the options given you.

lather, rinse, repeat as the Army coughs up the pistols.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 11, 2018 10:00 PM (pJeub)

604 That's cool, red, about the Russki biathlon rifle.


In one my gun stuff boxes I have a box for Russian 22LR biathlon ammo. Picked it up in the late 90s, at Lake Placid. I was there doing a x-c trip, and the Russian junior biathlon squad was there for some event.


As I skied through the shooting area, it was classic - Russian coaches were chain-smoking, foul-mouthed guys, who looked the part.


Also skated around the oval (rented speed skates, only time I've ever been in those) where Eric Heiden did his magic - it was open for public skating.


Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 11, 2018 10:00 PM (0BFUD)

605 I'll stand by you, homeless guy.
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Reminds me of Iowahawk's great "I'll ride with you" photoshop

Posted by: Methos at February 11, 2018 10:00 PM (XQvuQ)

606
*prods thread with toe*
*cues up Jennifer Warnes, 'Shot Through the Heart'*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 10:00 PM (nBBdT)

607 What's the deal with the Z gun? Who the hell cares about a gun that goes different sizes? I want to gun that will go from 9 to 22 to 45. If I want to go with a different size it will make a difference need. Having one with alternate calibers is way more important.

Posted by: Mr. Wolf at February 11, 2018 10:00 PM (HWKKg)

608 https://tinyurl.com/y6vv4efz

That points to an insecure site, which some browsers pick up on.

Posted by: t-bird at February 11, 2018 09:50 PM (NL+DJ)

I got that too. Here's one that works.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7ywp976

Posted by: gNewt at February 11, 2018 10:00 PM (Q3fP7)

609 571

I'm an accomplished bargain online component buyer,

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 11, 2018 09:43 PM (0BFUD)


Any recommendations for online sources of bullets? I just got some sample packs from Missouri Bullet company but haven't had a chance to shoot them yet. Their prices are pretty good, I hope the quality is, too.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 10:00 PM (DNH+H)

610 I can wait, but I am enthused about seeing it.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 11, 2018 09:59 PM (Dp6qK)
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You sedate older people are infuriating.


Posted by: bluebell at February 11, 2018 10:00 PM (kNasr)

611 NOOOD

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2018 10:00 PM (9SkN+)

612 606
*prods thread with toe*
*cues up Jennifer Warnes, 'Shot Through the Heart'*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 11, 2018 10:00 PM (nBBdT)

Thought that was Bon Jovi?

Or was that 'You give Love a bad name'?


Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 11, 2018 10:01 PM (ycWCI)

613 I have to admit I enjoy eating the male biathletes skiing in and then taking aim at the targets. It emphasizes their..ahem..fitness to the max.

Posted by: Tuna at February 11, 2018 10:02 PM (jm1YL)

614 at Lake Placid.
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Stay away from there in the summer time.

Posted by: Betty White at February 11, 2018 10:02 PM (nBBdT)

615 1.75 MOA is pretty good performance for a $179 .22 bolt gun.

Posted by: An Observation at February 11, 2018 09:59 PM (zoFiL)

I get about a nickel at 50 yards with Remington Thunderbolt in my Remington 514 Targetmaster. $175ish pawn shop deal. I'll take it to the grave. Shorts are quieter than my pellet rifle.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 11, 2018 10:03 PM (Dp6qK)

616 Probably willowed, will repeat on ONT.


I watch Olympics only on the streaming feeds, on computer.


Just the event you want to see. No idiotic American on-air personalities (usually furriners doing the things I like such as x-c skiing, ski jumping, hockey). Very few commercials.


And - it's funny (I'll whisper so NBC doesn't find out) - there's some weird glitch on the commercials, so the video's normal but the audio is half speed, so it sounds like Halloween III: The Mumbling. I just click over to AOSHQ or another open window during commercials anyway.


So - don't watch the idiot box, watch the computer. Much more control.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 11, 2018 10:04 PM (0BFUD)

617 I buy my bullets from Georgia Arms. Top quality, decent prices.

Posted by: colfax mingo at February 11, 2018 10:04 PM (6knIi)

618 The kim house has 17hmr,22lr,7.62,8mm,5.56,12ga and 9mm. No reloading yet...

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at February 11, 2018 10:06 PM (0OmEj)

619 And yes there are much better .22 match rifles than my $179 Marlin. Here is an example of one.

Professional shooter Kirsten Joy Weiss shoots an egg at 300 yards with a .22 from standing position. Her worst miss is about 3".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUtasDhjpI4

Posted by: An Observation at February 11, 2018 10:07 PM (zoFiL)

620 617 I buy my bullets from Georgia Arms. Top quality, decent prices.

Posted by: colfax mingo at February 11, 2018 10:04 PM (6knIi)


Thanks!

(Are you in Iowa? There's a "Colfax-Mingo" exit on I-80 about half an hour east of Des Moines.)

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2018 10:08 PM (DNH+H)

621 Thought that was Bon Jovi?

Or was that 'You give Love a bad name'?

Posted by: Aetius451AD
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http://tinyurl.com/ybg6cbfg

Posted by: Betty White at February 11, 2018 10:09 PM (7ThJ3)

622 Have I mentioned that the main character of Babylon Berlin is a fuck up and a pussy?

Because the main character of Babylon Berlin is a fuck up and a pussy.

Good period detail though, good on Netflix for bringing it over.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 11, 2018 10:45 PM (xJa6I)

623 I looked at my records and I bought my Remington R1 new from CDNN Sports, and I've bought some surplus holsters from hem as well. I don't remember any problems with them at all and I remember bad service.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 11, 2018 10:55 PM (Oi8/G)

624 7.62 x 53R Finnish target rifle. Very similar to the much more common 7.62x54R. Lapua makes them and sells them in boxes of 20 for about $65.00.

Posted by: Matthew at February 11, 2018 11:38 PM (PWs58)

625 Surprised to see no mention of the .348 Winchester. The Winchester 71 was the only production rifle chambered for it, and it was a humdinger, the culmination of the whole Winchester line of tube-magazine lever actions going back to the Henry. Classic Western elk, moose and bear gun from the late 30s through the late 50s. The cartridge pretty much died when the rifle was discontinued; high velocity and bolt actions took over.

That Churchill photo was taken in England in May 1944. He tried out an M1 carbine the same day, shooting alongside Ike and Bradley. Plenty of photos of the occasion online.

Posted by: William Befort at February 11, 2018 11:56 PM (hJFOo)

626 88 magnum. Shoots through schools

Posted by: Dan at February 11, 2018 11:59 PM (hy0wd)

627 Forgot to add: that hat Churchill's wearing is called a Cambridge bowler. Razor-sharp steel brim optional.

Posted by: William Befort at February 12, 2018 12:07 AM (hJFOo)

628 Is this an old thread? Sure are a lot of comments. Anyway, my favorite gun song is Darlin' Corey.

Get up, get up, Darlin' Corey
and go get me my gun.
I ain't a man for trouble
but I'll die before I run.

Posted by: Persnickety at February 12, 2018 06:44 AM (kVD6s)

629 648: Hunt up a copy of C.L. Sonnichsen's "I'll Die Before I'll Run", about post-Civil War feuds in Texas.

Posted by: William Befort at February 12, 2018 11:03 AM (hJFOo)

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