Sunday Morning Book Thread 02-04-2018

"I Had Too Much To Read Last Night"
(h/t The Electric Prunes)

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which sort of look like a below-the-waist burqa.

Thank You

Thanks to all of you who welcomed me back with words of encouragement last week.

Also, thanks to you morons who sent me photos of their personal libraries. You may be seeing them on an upcoming book thread.

It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

To APOLACTIZE something is to kick it away.

Usage: What did Jim Acosta apolactize first, his objectivity, integrity, or credibility?

Moron Library

This is part of the library of (Mrs.) Hadrian the Seventh:

Library of Hadrian the Seventh - small.jpg

H7 says:

She is an AKC judge and these are the books with which she acquaints herself with known and new breeds.

You can click on the pic for a larger version, to see her many doggeh books.

'MAGA ran' Is An Anagram of 'Anagram'

This one's a beaut, a poem constructed entirely of anagrams:

All fourteen lines in David Shulman’s sonnet ‘Washington Crossing The Delaware’ (1936) are anagrams of the title. pic.twitter.com/abxVwfV583
— Haggard Hawks (@HaggardHawks) March 10, 2017

I sent to a moron lurker who is an amateur anagramologist who topped it with this, the plot of Tolkien's 'The Hobbit' anagrammatized from the title:

I’ve never anagrammed anything into a sonnet, @OregonMuse, but this one time I *did* anagram “The Hobbit, or There and Back Again, by J. R. R. Tolkien” into the entire plot of The Hobbit, or There and Back Again, by J. R. R. Tolkien. pic.twitter.com/0vAQ7M95tK
— R. M. Huffman (@R_M_Huffman) January 27, 2018

Is This a Thing?

Looks like Walmart is getting into the e-book business:

Today, we announced a strategic alliance with Rakuten, the number one e-commerce company in Japan.

Initially, the relationship focuses on two areas. First, we’ll launch an online grocery delivery joint venture in Japan and, second, we’re adding an entirely new category to our U.S. assortment – eBooks and audiobooks, powered by Rakuten’s digital book business, Kobo. I wanted to talk about the second here as it directly serves customers in the U.S...Working with Rakuten Kobo enables us to quickly and efficiently launch a full eBook and audiobook catalog on Walmart.com to provide our customers with additional choices alongside our assortment of physical books.

Kobo is a global leader in eBooks and audiobooks with nearly six million titles from thousands of publishers – everything from children’s books to New York Times best sellers and indie titles. As the exclusive mass retail partner of the Kobo brand in the U.S., that full assortment of eBooks will be available on Walmart.com later this year, with audiobooks launching after that.

I've always thought of Kobe as an also-ran, behind Kindle and Nook. But Nook appears to be fading as the fortunes of Barnes & Noble's declines, and with the heft of Walmart behind it, who knows? Kobe has the potential to put itself in the #2 spot.

(h/t Anna Puma)

Books By Morons

Long-time lurker and moron author David Welch has a new book coming out:

I have a new book available for pre-order on Amazon, titled: TALES OF THE FAR WANDERERS. It's an episodic novel full of adventure tales, set in a medieval future twenty thousand years from now, inspired by the style of the old pulp writers and more gritty, modern historical fiction.

Tales of the Far Wanderers is available for pre-order on Kindle for $2.99. It will be delivered to your device on or after Feb. 1, 2018. From the Amazon blurb:

To Gunnar of the Tarn life is wandering. A half-breed with no home to return to, he has escaped the endless wars of his father’s people to drift through the vastness of a land once known as North America. Slow to trust and swift with a sword, he had resigned himself to a lonely, itinerant life. That all changes the day he meets Kamith of the Red Horse. The last of her kind, Kamith barely escapes being sacrificed and joins Gunnar in his wanderings...

Inspired by the sword-slinging pulp heroes of old, this story cycle tells the tales of two vagabonds spurned by the world, and forced to fight off it’s madness at every step. But they’re nothing if not tough, and find in each other much to fight for, and to live for…

You can read the write-up I did on Welch's earlier book, Chaos Quarter; Horde, in this book thread.

Moron Recommendations

Longtime lurker Kevin Ley (who, by the way, has his own movie blog) emailed me a recommendation for Down and Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance, and the Rise of Independent Film by Peter Biskind because it is filled with stories about Harvey Weinstein:

The intimidating image of Miramax's Harvey Weinstein plows powerfully through Biskind's saga; the studio honcho emerges as a combination of blinding charm and raging excess, a boisterous bully who tears phones out of walls and overturns tables. Former Miramax exec Patrick McDarrah, in comparing Weinstein with his brother and partner, Bob Weinstein, concludes, "Harvey is ego, Bob is greed."

Harvey + Bob = Hollywood.

By the way, is anybody else disturbed, as I am, to discover that Harvey Weinstein has a brother?

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I was asked to mention the publication of a new magazine, StoryHack, which might be of interest to morons:

It's a magazine of Action & Adventure, a mix of genres, with a deliberate pulp sensibility. The first issue contains science fiction, weird westerns, horror, and a WWII tale. I have a story in it, so I'm biased, but Bryce Beattie, the editor and publisher, really did a wonderful job. The 'rons and 'ettes should enjoy it.

StoryHack #1 is available for $3.99. The cover looks delightfully retro, like something you'd see on an old issue of "Amazing Stories"

And if you like that, you might be interested in PulpRev Sampler Anthology 2017:

This is a collection of short stories and novel excerpts from writers associated with the PulpRev movement in the latter half of 2017. PulpRev is a literary movement aimed at restoring the spirit of the old pulp adventures, not just the aesthetic, and has roots in the Appendix N and OSR movements.

Note: This anthology is intended as a sampler, and stories within are very short (2,500 words or less). John C. Wright's contribution is available for free at his website

I never knew 'PulpRev' was a thing. And I'm not going to even bother trying to track down Appendix N or OSR, so you're on you own with those. This anthology is available on Kindle for 99 cents.

But:

This anthology itself is available for free for those who sign up for the PulpRev mailing list by sending an email to scoop@pulprev.com with the subject line "Subscribe."

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Moronette 'votermom' is putting together a list of moron authors over on the Goodreads site which is intended to be accessible to non-members. Here is the list she has compiled so far. Let her know if there's an author she's missing.

http://www.bookhorde.org/p/aoshq-authors.html

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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM

Comments

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1 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip been waiting 36 years for today, Go Birds! at February 04, 2018 08:55 AM (aC6Sd)

2 I suppose thats a art project picture
Still reading Patrick O'Brien's The Fortune of War but picked up Treason's Harbour at the used book store to get ahead, now to catch up to that.

Posted by: Skip been waiting 36 years for today, Go Birds! at February 04, 2018 08:58 AM (aC6Sd)

3 Good morning - Just started Jordan Petersons *Twelve Rules for Life* yesterday. Great stuff so far. This is one that I'll have to revisit again and again. He mentions a metric crap ton of other works and papers by others, many of which I have not looked at. But now I want to and have a hook to begin.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 04, 2018 09:01 AM (tr2D7)

4 Morning all,
Very good week for reading.

Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules is clearly worthwhile.
For a guy I never heard of ~3 weeks ago he sure has a history battling the SJW crowd. The audio version is great, the only thing missing is the illustrations. (can anyone here comment on them?) If not for his Rule #9(Assume the person you're listening to might know something you don't) he'd probably not be at #1 all week.

Also listened to my first Milton Friedman book - Free to Choose. It was a very good listen, obviously no one in the current Venezuelan government ever read anything by him.

Finally I've entered Transalpine Gaul with Landmark Caesar. Hopefully I can march through the book a lot quicker than the 7 years it took Caesar to 'pacify' Gaul.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike -formerly; Southeast PA lurker at February 04, 2018 09:01 AM (vFHFh)

5 I bet many morons have a pile of books like that on their nightstand.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 04, 2018 09:02 AM (EZebt)

6 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. The forecast is for cold and wet, maybe a little sleet. Perfect weather for sipping tea, puffing some good tobacco, commenting on Ace, and reading. And no interest in the Super Bowl and associated hype.

Posted by: JTB at February 04, 2018 09:04 AM (V+03K)

7
I read three and a half pages of a memo this week. Then put my FBI cuff links on and took a selfie of my right wrist.

brb with some scripture

Posted by: James Comey, teetering closer to the edge of the abyss at February 04, 2018 09:05 AM (2FqvZ)

8
Finished
Anne McCaffrey's Dragon's Eye, now working on that book about the
Knights Templar that they had on sale last week for $1.99.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 04, 2018 09:05 AM (mpXpK)

9 Hey, OM! Neat picture of book vomit.

This week I returned to one of my favs, John Sandford, and the latest in the Virgil Flowers series. Seems old John has tamped his Republican hate from some of the digs his characters started taking in 2008.

"Deep Freeze" was pretty good and recommended. The author has the deft ability to make you feel like you personally know all the characters in his stories, but I can do without his politics.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at February 04, 2018 09:06 AM (ihzOe)

10 Whippet; whippet good.

Posted by: Roscoe at February 04, 2018 09:06 AM (tqwE0)

11 Glad folks mentioned Jordan Peterson's "12 Rules for Life". Just got a copy yesterday but haven't started it yet.

Posted by: JTB at February 04, 2018 09:07 AM (V+03K)

12 "Alone" by Michael Korda. An insider's look at the start of WW II and Dunkirk. Interesting and a good read.

Posted by: Libra at February 04, 2018 09:07 AM (u0gU9)

13 I embiggened Mrs H's library photo. That's a lot of cookbooks Hadrian.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 04, 2018 09:07 AM (RfzVr)

14 OM, Glad you are feeling up to doing the Book Thread and thanks for all the links about pulp-style writing. I'll have to check into them. They sound like fun.

Posted by: JTB at February 04, 2018 09:09 AM (V+03K)

15 IH Mike - the illustrations in Petersons book are few and, IMO, don't add too much to the text. It certainly isnt worth the trouble to buy the printed version simply to have access to the illustrations.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 04, 2018 09:09 AM (tr2D7)

16 Good Sunday morning, horde!

I decided to pick up one of the many unread classics we have around the house, so I'm reading Treasure Island this week.

Posted by: April at February 04, 2018 09:09 AM (e8PP1)

17 I wonder if Kobo will have that Anne McCaffrey book The Rowan which is the first in her Tower and The Hive series. Amazon Great Britain has it but not so in the US.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 04, 2018 09:10 AM (mpXpK)

18 Hey April! Any snow down your way? Snowing pretty good here.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 04, 2018 09:11 AM (tr2D7)

19 Reading the Doc Ford mystery series by SW Fla author Randy Wayne White. Ford is a marine biologist who owns a marine specimen supply company on Sanibel Island near Ft. Myers, FL. For about 10 years Ford was a Navy SEAL and also worked for the CIA/NSA. In each book White adds in Florida history and places that have, or are disappearing.

Some head music.

Sonic Jesus-Lost Reprise
https://youtu.be/9c4RogABOVY

Lead Belly-Pick A Bale Of Cotton
https://youtu.be/pd5ViH_5598

Ted Nugent-Hibernation (Live 1976)
https://youtu.be/M49j05LZ9WY

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at February 04, 2018 09:12 AM (+ufX6)

20 Thanks Tonypete. I read the illustrator is under attack because of his work for the book, so I was curious.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike-formerly; Southeast PA lurker at February 04, 2018 09:14 AM (vFHFh)

21 April,

I use this site https://tinyurl.com/yb3c2cof to download youtube videos onto my computer. It doesn't work for all, but it does for most. I was able to download that Wazimbo song you liked. There are other sites and programs you can use, but they usually require you to download their app or program.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at February 04, 2018 09:14 AM (+ufX6)

22 Top picture now imagine it being composed of nothing but unbought copies of What Happened.

Finally figured out a resolution for this year. Instead of writing more about Tanya or Yuriko or Catherine and Diana, working a novel rough draft that predates even Sluggor. How far did I get with this draft before, like a Kinder, went chasing after shiny new story ideas? 30,000 words that covers opening to what I thought was the end but upon further rumination is really roughly the midpoint of story.

As for Rakuten and WalMart, it will be interesting to see how that reshapes the marketplace. Or will it? Is WalMart too late in joining the game?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 09:14 AM (HAhrI)

23 I watched the sidebar video of Ethan Van Sciver explaining the illustrations he did for Peterson's book. It was very interesting.

Posted by: pookysgirl at February 04, 2018 09:15 AM (XKZwp)

24 Where's that first pic from? Europe, I'm guessing, where they just can't leave well enough alone.

Posted by: Texican ette at February 04, 2018 09:15 AM (wX/xk)

25 Love the synopsis of The Hobbit. It's brilliant.

I'm almost done with my current reading of LotR. Taking the time to savor Prof. Tolkien's writing (word choice, pacing, poetry, etc.) has enhanced the experience.

Now I have to decide if I'll re-read The Silmarillion. Haven't read the whole thing in ages.

Posted by: JTB at February 04, 2018 09:16 AM (V+03K)

26 Alternative definition:

"Apolactize" - to get rid of Poland

I denounce myself.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 04, 2018 09:16 AM (9q7Dl)

27 Hi, Tonypete! We have about an inch of wet, heavy snow so far. Still falling.

Posted by: April at February 04, 2018 09:17 AM (e8PP1)

28 I wondered how long it would take before the first polack joke appeared.

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 09:18 AM (FbgyE)

29 Looks like the library choked on "What Happened".

Posted by: freaked at February 04, 2018 09:19 AM (UdKB7)

30 Jake, I saved that to my favorites this time. I have a favorites folder for youtube and music. Like you, I have eclectic taste in music. Pretty much, if it's outstanding, I like it.

Posted by: April at February 04, 2018 09:20 AM (e8PP1)

31 Appendix N was the "recommended reading" list at the back of the old first edition Dungeons & Dragons Dungeon Masters' Guide. A guy named Jeffro Johnson decided to read all the books on the list and blog about them, and he was absolutely blown away by what he found. There's all this great stuff and nobody reads it any more! His enthusiasm basically conjured up a new literary movement out of thin air.

If you're a huge nerd and are younger than about age 45 or so, I recommend his book _Appendix N_, which compiles and expands his blog posts. Older huge nerds have read all the books he mentions and don't see what all the fuss is about, but younger ones will find recommendations for really great novels from the pre-1980s science fiction and fantasy scene.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 04, 2018 09:22 AM (lidpO)

32 16 ... Enjoy reading "Treasure Island". I re-read it last year and it stills thrills, chills and excites even at my age. I did spring for a good hardback copy with the NC Wyeth illustrations. His paintings add polish to a gem of a story.

Posted by: JTB at February 04, 2018 09:22 AM (V+03K)

33 Looking at the current Kobo site they do not have it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 04, 2018 09:23 AM (mpXpK)

34 Hah anna

Posted by: freaked at February 04, 2018 09:23 AM (UdKB7)

35 (A scene that often plays out in our household)

Pooky: "Hey, what's this obscure LOTR fact?"

Me: "Answer as best as I can remember. Why don't you just read The Simirillion already?!"

Pooky: "Why would I when I can just ask you what I want to know?"

Me: [throws The Tolkien Companion at him]

Posted by: pookysgirl at February 04, 2018 09:23 AM (XKZwp)

36 Vic here is the Amazon link to the first US hardcover edition of The Rowan by Anne McCaffrey. Is this the one you are looking at?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yb29mqkt

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 09:24 AM (HAhrI)

37 Probably the chaser of "Fire and Fury" that done em in.

Posted by: freaked at February 04, 2018 09:25 AM (UdKB7)

38 36
Vic here is the Amazon link to the first US hardcover edition of The Rowan by Anne McCaffrey. Is this the one you are looking at?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yb29mqkt

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 09:24 AM (HAhrI)

I have the paperback version, but I want the Kindle version. You can not get the Kindle version in the US. I tried ordering it from Amazon GB and got message that said could not sell it in the US.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 04, 2018 09:27 AM (mpXpK)

39 If you're a huge nerd and are younger than about age 45 or so, I recommend his book _Appendix N_, which compiles and expands his blog posts. Older huge nerds have read all the books he mentions and don't see what all the fuss is about, but younger ones will find recommendations for really great novels from the pre-1980s science fiction and fantasy scene.
Posted by: Trimegistus at February 04, 2018 09:22 AM (lidpO)
---
I've never heard of this and I am a yuge nerd.

When I was a lass, Lin Carter's how-to on worldbuilding, Imaginary Worlds, introduced me to a lot of old school fantasy.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 04, 2018 09:28 AM (qJtVm)

40 Morning, y'all. Been a bit cooler and cloudy the past couple of days, but a promise of a nice 70 or so makes it a fine end of the weekend.

Neighbor was out firing up the giant smoker around mid morning yesterday, so will have to (coffeve in hand) trundle down to see how it's going... smells simply wonderful.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 04, 2018 09:29 AM (7LY+6)

41 There's more from where that came from.

Posted by: The GIGO Library at February 04, 2018 09:33 AM (UdKB7)

42 I'm currently reading The Coward of Minden by Piers Macksey. It is an older study (published in 1979) of the Minden campaign and court-martial of the disgraced British General Sackville in 1759. Macksey's book seeks to rehabilitate Sackville's reputation and presents plenty of convincing evidence that Sackville was not the poltroon as he has been so often portrayed. Macksey cites numerous contemporary letters and shows that Sackville was actually generally well-regarded by his subordinates prior to this battle. His main crime seems to be that King George II didn't like him and Sackville got conflicting orders that he misinterpreted.

Macksey has a lucid writing style and the book has several good maps to illustrate the strategic situation and detailed battle maps. Highly recommended if you have an interest in the Seven Years War: rating = 5/5.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 04, 2018 09:33 AM (5Yee7)

43 Upon Moron recommendations, I asked for the first Hard Luck Hank book for Christmas and got it.

Uh, in 2016.

Finally started it last month. It's fun, but I don't find all the hilarity that others say it contains.

Not sure whether I'll try to get the rest of the series.

Also burning through a bunch of Marvel's Master of Kung Fu issues. I've often heard about how great it was, so I recently went crazy at a used-book store and picked up 60 issues. And, yes, it is good. Wish the printing was clearer.

If only the comics of the past had the technology of today.

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 04, 2018 09:34 AM (5F8qW)

44 Appendix N rocks, great insights into the history of gaming, shows why Middle Earth doesn't quite work in DandD and why so many attempts to 'correct' it went so poorly. Also why TandT is awesome and original despite what EGG kept sawing on about

Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at February 04, 2018 09:36 AM (z2W2E)

45 *sighs* You never mentioned eBook version.

Trivia time. Anne slightly changed one of the characters from the original short stories when she decided to turn them into full length novels starting with The Rowan while setting about to join together all her universes from To Ride Pegasus, Dinosaur Planet, and all of the Pern books. Afra in those stories smoked cigarettes.

And those short stories can be found in Get Off the Unicorn that includes another short story that she turned into a book. Thorns of Baravi, which was Anne dabbling in very soft pr0n, became Freedom's Landing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 09:36 AM (HAhrI)

46 It's a defenestration, I say!

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 04, 2018 09:36 AM (RuIsu)

47 45 And those short stories can be found in Get Off the Unicorn that includes another short story that she turned into a book. Thorns of Baravi, which was Anne dabbling in very soft pr0n, became Freedom's Landing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 09:36 AM (HAhrI)

Some of her other books get a little racy.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 04, 2018 09:38 AM (mpXpK)

48 Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 04, 2018 09:29 AM (7LY+6)

Yesterday was Mid-Winter day. It's all downhill from here

Posted by: Kansas Seashore Properties at February 04, 2018 09:43 AM (4u7kU)

49 26 Alternative definition:

"Apolactize" - to get rid of Poland

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History has shown that no one wants to get rid of Poland, quite the opposite - other countries are always trying to gain her.

Posted by: josephistan at February 04, 2018 09:43 AM (ANIFC)

50 Some of her other books get a little racy. "

*cue cat like ears swiveling forward*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 04, 2018 09:45 AM (7LY+6)

51 Hooray, Mrs. Hadrian the Seventh has Duggan's fascinating book about the Saluki breed and how it got to England.

Posted by: Alifa at February 04, 2018 09:46 AM (vcwYs)

52 Thorns of Barevi was 1970 while Lady in the Tower which became The Rowan was 1959.

Okay I must stop spelunking through the McCaffrey collection... Weyr Search or the first third of Dragonflight won a Hugo in 1968.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 09:46 AM (HAhrI)

53 20 Thanks Tonypete. I read the illustrator is under attack because of his work for the book, so I was curious.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike-formerly; Southeast PA lurker at February 04, 2018 09:14 AM (vFHFh)

Ethan Van Sciver is mainly under attack because he's one of the only 'out' conservatives left in mainstream comics. The Jordan Peterson thing has caused it to flair up again; but the current stuff has actually been going on since last summer, when a bunch of SJWs found out that he released a limited-edition art book about ten years ago with a portrait of Sinestro (a Hitler-like super-villain from Green Lantern) on the cover and the title *My Struggle* (as in Mein Kampf), and then spent six months non-stop calling him a Nazi. Anyway, check out Diversity & Comics on YouTube, he's been covering this a lot lately.

Posted by: jic at February 04, 2018 09:46 AM (hkTJE)

54 52 Okay I must stop spelunking through the McCaffrey collection... Weyr Search or the first third of Dragonflight won a Hugo in 1968.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 09:46 AM (HAhrI)

All of those Pern books are available on Kindle.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 04, 2018 09:49 AM (mpXpK)

55 During Harvey when we realized that water was going to get in the house, we frantically tried to move as many things off the floor as possible. I moved all books from the bottom shelves and threw them on beds (except for one small shelf of children's books that I overlooked). Two days later when we came home I took the rest of the books off the shelves and moved the bookcases outside to dry, also we had to pull up the wet carpet. I said to my brother that maybe I needed to get rid of some things and he said "you need to get rid of some books!"
No, that's not happening.
Thanks for the book thread, OM, I look forward to it every Sunday.

Posted by: Hokiemom at February 04, 2018 09:51 AM (WUYxS)

56 I've been in a practical, hands-on hobby mood lately. I mentioned a few weeks ago reading about the historic aspects of fiber arts. The planning, labor, and simple but hugely effective tools used to make cloth are fascinating.

This week I've been reading about fly tying and fishing, especially with soft hackle wet flies. "Wet Flies" by Dave Hughes and "The Fly Tiers's Benchside Reference" have been helpful. Some of the patterns go back for decades, even centuries, and learning about the materials and tying techniques has been fun. Just for kicks, I might try to recreate a colonial-era fly fishing setup.

Posted by: JTB at February 04, 2018 09:52 AM (V+03K)

57 Picked up The Cook's Bible by Christopher Kimball yesterday. Was in a supermarket bin. $2.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 04, 2018 09:53 AM (89T5c)

58 42 with unlimited time and funds or to be like Henry Bemis

Posted by: Skip been waiting 36 years for today, Go Birds! at February 04, 2018 09:53 AM (aC6Sd)

59 During Harvey when we realized that water was going to get in the house, we frantically tried to move as many things off the floor as possible."

Friends had more "stuff" stacked on the kitchen island - knocked off the faucet (turned water off first), then started with sofa, chairs, and more... hey, it worked!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 04, 2018 09:54 AM (7LY+6)

60 History has shown that no one wants to get rid of Poland, quite the opposite - other countries are always trying to gain her.
Posted by: josephistan at February 04, 2018 09:43 AM (ANIFC)

Poland is in an East/West location which has caused major border disequilibrium and charter membership in the Bloodlands.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 04, 2018 09:55 AM (y7DUB)

61 The photo looks like SCTV's opening credits, only with books instead of televisions.

Posted by: rickl at February 04, 2018 09:56 AM (sdi6R)

62 The photo looks like SCTV's opening credits, only with books instead of televisions.
Posted by: rickl at February 04, 2018 09:56 AM (sdi6R)

Bingo, I was wondering why it looked oddly familiar.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 04, 2018 09:57 AM (y7DUB)

63 Reading Art of War right now. I note one of its passages summarizes why the Left consistently beat the Right in the political propaganda fight. Combined energy will defeat individual efforts.

Individuality is our , the Rights, greatest strength and greatest weakness.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 04, 2018 09:57 AM (2DOZq)

64 This is funny
http://politicalclownparade.blogspot.com/2018/02/my-little-golden-book-of-russian-bots.html

Posted by: Skip been waiting 36 years for today, Go Birds! at February 04, 2018 09:58 AM (aC6Sd)

65 "Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules is clearly worthwhile.
For a guy I never heard of ~3 weeks ago he sure has a history battling the SJW crowd."

No wonder so few people had heard of him. That they can be fought and defeated is not news that they want to get around.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 04, 2018 10:00 AM (oVWx5)

66 I met her accidentally

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 04, 2018 10:00 AM (PUmDY)

67 Spent this week delving into Clementine by Sonia Purnell, a biography of Churchill's wife. She grew up in genteel poverty, and apparently being married to Winston was not without conflicts and sharp words, but they truly loved each other, and Clemmie proved to be an intelligent, engaging asset to his career. I'm only about a quarter into it, but I see from the table of contents that there were some personal tragedies as well. Her name is pronounced Clementeen, by the way. The book is quite a nice addition to my library of books by and about Churchill.
As an aside, the road that circles around the Mount Scopus campus of Hebrew University of Jerusalem is Churchill drive; at the back it overlooks the Dead Sea.

Posted by: Alifa at February 04, 2018 10:01 AM (vcwYs)

68 Received "12 Rules for Life" last night.

The long forward and overture discouraged me from diving right in.

So, I thumbed through it a bit. Looks exactly like my kind of thing nonfiction-wise.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 04, 2018 10:01 AM (9q7Dl)

69 I ain't going to apolactize.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 04, 2018 10:03 AM (ks6bw)

70 Also, if that is a sculpture with each book meticulously recreated and covers, sizes, etc all thoughtfully different - wow.

If it's just a bunch of books waiting to be rained on - huh, okay.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 04, 2018 10:05 AM (ks6bw)

71 Nice win against Gators yesterday

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 04, 2018 10:05 AM (PUmDY)

72 I had too much to DREAM last night? I thought only other people mis-heard lyrics!

Posted by: Texican ette at February 04, 2018 10:06 AM (wX/xk)

73 I ain't going to apolactize.

==

one way trip to Hell

Posted by: Julian the Apolactate at February 04, 2018 10:09 AM (z2W2E)

74 Because we had the Nunes memo released this week I am going to recommend The New Class: Analysis of the Communist System by Milovan Djilas. Djilas was a partisan during the war and a member of the politburo in Yugoslavia under Tito. He argues that instead of creating a classless society, the communists have replaced the capitalists with a New Class of rulers: the bureaucrat. As Marx predicted, the ruling class bureaucrats act in their own class interest by expanding their power and controlling institutions to consolidate their power. It is interesting history, and an insight into the mindset of Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the rest of the swamp.

Posted by: Bucky at February 04, 2018 10:09 AM (/aiGx)

75
Top photo looks like a massive outbreak of appendix-citis.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 04, 2018 10:10 AM (9q7Dl)

76 History has shown that no one wants to get rid of Poland, quite the opposite - other countries are always trying to gain her.
Posted by: josephistan at February 04, 2018 09:43 AM (ANIFC)

I read a good book (title something like "No Greater Ally") about the contribution of Polish troops to the Allied war effort. Even after Poland was defeated, Poles continued to fight in consolidated units. The Poles fought on every front within the European Theater of Operation. It is estimated that about 1/3 of all Poles died in WWII.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 04, 2018 10:10 AM (5Yee7)

77 Anagrams are hard.

Ah, mange. Ra-ra-ra! Sad.

Posted by: Sore If Her at February 04, 2018 10:10 AM (y+SdL)

78 Electric Prunes is a horrible band name. Like the song, though

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 04, 2018 10:11 AM (PUmDY)

79 Thanks, Bucky, sounds like potentially useful knowledge these days.

Appendix N; fascinating !
Never heard of that before today !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 04, 2018 10:12 AM (oVWx5)

80 Speaking of Poland, I seem to recall the James Michener wrote a novel "Poland" some years ago. Anyone ever read it and what did you think of it?

Posted by: JTB at February 04, 2018 10:13 AM (V+03K)

81 Oh Vic... the problem with digital copies is how adaptive they are. One update and things change without the reader usually any wiser.

But print, it fixes the words. With the Pern series we catch Anne tweaking something. In Weyr Search L'tol's dragon that is killed is only a green. And this fact carries over to at least the 4th US paperback edition. But later on his dragon is promoted to brown.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 10:17 AM (HAhrI)

82 Almost done with Nelson Demille's latest, The Cuban Affair (audio version, otherwise I'd have been done last week).
Demille has been able to successfully create a totally new, younger character who is not John Corey. This one's an A-Stan vet now quietly living and fishing in Key West.
Well told action adventure with authentic descriptions of current-day Cuba. Demille even has a minor character who is a professor and popular novelist he pokes fun at who may have been inspired by himself when doing the on site research (that's just a guess on my part).
I think many more of his books should be made into movies; I'd even go back to the theater.
Another success from Demille. Definitely recommended.

Posted by: RI Red at February 04, 2018 10:19 AM (Q5pWl)

83 I read a good book (title something like "No Greater Ally") about the contribution of Polish troops to the Allied war effort.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop
________

Going back further to the Revolutionary War, there were Thaddeus Kosciuszko, Casimir Pulaski and Haym Salomon. At the time Poland was in no position to help our cause, but a few Polish people made our victory possible.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 04, 2018 10:19 AM (y+SdL)

84 Electric Prunes will make one regular in a shocking amount of time.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 04, 2018 10:20 AM (89T5c)

85 When Androids Are Constipated, Do They Dream of Electric Prunes?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 04, 2018 10:21 AM (oVJmc)

86 Just for kicks, I might try to recreate a colonial-era fly fishing setup.

Oh, please find a way to post pictures if you do. There exists a very small handful of flyfishing Morons, but we're fanatics.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 10:22 AM (fuK7c)

87 Anagrams are stoopid

Posted by: sea favors at February 04, 2018 10:24 AM (4u7kU)

88 "there were Thaddeus Kosciuszko, Casimir Pulaski and Haym Salomon. "

Both the Kosciuszko Bridge and the Pulaski Bridge cross Newtown Creek, connecting Brooklyn and Queens

Don't know from Haym.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 04, 2018 10:26 AM (pV/54)

89 Oh, please find a way to post pictures if you do. There exists a very small handful of flyfishing Morons, but we're fanatics.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 10:22 AM (fuK7c)

Now, I'm just a simple, country moron, but-

even i know flies don't have much meat on them.

I think you'd do better to go bumblebeefishing.

Something like that.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 04, 2018 10:26 AM (9q7Dl)

90 yay book thread!

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at February 04, 2018 10:27 AM (hMwEB)

91 Most of the way through Victor David Hansons' The Second War Worlds. It's topic based. Sieges. Tanks, etc. I like it

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 04, 2018 10:28 AM (pV/54)

92 18 Hey April! Any snow down your way? Snowing pretty good here.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 04, 2018 09:11 AM (tr2D7)

Hey tp. Less than an inch up thisaway. Looks wet and dense but I have not been outside yet. I can see raindrop craters, though.

Looks like no need to fire up either tractor.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 04, 2018 10:29 AM (di1hb)

93 Good morning!

Finally had an opportunity to sleep in, after a hard two weeks of family flu. Still some residual coughing but so much better.

I bought Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules book and will get started on it today. I bought the book in a hard copy as I thought it would be a better read for me with "normal" pagination. For whatever reason, I do better with fiction on a Kindle and non-fiction and "how to" in hard copy

Great doggie library, I enjoy going to local-ish dog shows, and the AKC Meet the Breeds has been a favorite of mine, as breeders tell you the pros , cons and characteristics of their favorite doggehs.

Posted by: CN at February 04, 2018 10:30 AM (5gaNQ)

94 I am reading William Makepeace Thackeray's "Vanity Fair" - for the first time. What a delightful book! Funny, tart, yet like all great satire, deeply moral: well worth reading.

Posted by: Brown Line at February 04, 2018 10:31 AM (S6ArX)

95 apolactize

apo- prefix meaning 'away'

lact- pertaining to milk

-ize verb-form ending meaning 'to make'

apolactize - to make a Milky Way

Use: The Mars candy company developed a technique to apolactize chocolate and caramel.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 04, 2018 10:32 AM (wPiJc)

96
"There is no greater fan of fly-fishing than the worm."
Patrick F. McManus

Posted by: James Comey, teetering closer to the edge of the abyss at February 04, 2018 10:33 AM (2FqvZ)

97 Hey Vic - check your e-mail for McCaffery books.

Posted by: Tunafish at February 04, 2018 10:36 AM (lPlAz)

98 Can't stay long (busy day), but wanted to poke my head in and share the FB page for the anthology my friend and I are contributing to. Not many details available yet--I think ours is the only story that's already finished--but you can follow the page for previews, etc. Take out the spaces:

https://www.facebook.com/ Of-Myths-and-Men-An-Anthology- 146305609414290/

Smashwords distributes to Kobo, and all of my solo e-books are on Smashwords, so I'm hoping this Walmart deal will be a good thing. Healthy competition for Amazon and all that.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at February 04, 2018 10:36 AM (3032H)

99 Walmart's "assortment of physical books" is pretty bad. Maybe slightly better than what you'd find in a supermarket, but nothing where you'd go there for a book.

Of course, Barnes & Noble's selection is getting worse. Lots of NYT bestsellers and the latest Lefty garbage, but their floor space is now competing with games, puzzles, toys and other non-book items.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 04, 2018 10:39 AM (l9m7l)

100 I think, at some point, I may have a book within me about loss and grief, grace and healing and friendship.
But then I look at my bookshelf and see A Grief Observed and wonder about going over the same ground others have gone over.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 10:40 AM (nBr1j)

101 96
"There is no greater fan of fly-fishing than the worm."
Patrick F. McManus
Posted by: James Comey, teetering closer to the edge of the abyss at February 04, 2018 10:33 AM (2FqvZ)

Like that quote.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 10:42 AM (nBr1j)

102 Has anyone checked to see if it is OK with the cruise director whether we can make jokes about the tragic deaths and injuries that occurred this morning?

Posted by: bob at February 04, 2018 10:42 AM (D4BQa)

103 I've started reading 1177 BC, the Year Civilization Collapsed.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 10:42 AM (nBr1j)

104 Of course, Barnes & Noble's selection is getting worse.

It is. I tried to do some Christmas shopping there and it was a fail. It used to be that you could wander around a bookstore and count on serendipity -- oh here's a thing that Someone would like and I just happened on it.

B ampersand N now just has little silos of interest categories and only the top sellers in each silo, so there are no surprises.

Also a crapton of Star Wars merch around Christmas.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 10:43 AM (fuK7c)

105 100 I think, at some point, I may have a book within me about loss and grief, grace and healing and friendship.
But then I look at my bookshelf and see A Grief Observed and wonder about going over the same ground others have gone over.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 10:40 AM (nBr1j)

Your experience may share similar elements with others, but it's still personal to you and therefore unique. There is also great value in letting other people know they aren't alone in the kinds of things they're experiencing.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 10:44 AM (NWiLs)

106 100 I think, at some point, I may have a book within me about loss and grief, grace and healing and friendship.
But then I look at my bookshelf and see A Grief Observed and wonder about going over the same ground others have gone over.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 10:40 AM (nBr1j)

Don't let that stop you from writing your book. You'd be amazed how much Shakespeare simply rehashed earlier material.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 04, 2018 10:46 AM (OgAV7)

107 Got a hardback copy of Hero of the Empire for Christmas and just started it yesterday. Interesting so far. Young Winston never doubted his destiny, that's for sure.
It just occurred to me that this is the first physical book that I have picked up in over a year. I've been ruined by Kindle.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at February 04, 2018 10:49 AM (ipyio)

108 I will consider myself encouraged to press in when the time is right, OregonMuse and Insomniac.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 10:50 AM (nBr1j)

109 Northernlurker, I second Insomniac and OM (and offer my condolences--you've been in my prayers). Plus, even if you never publish, the act of writing in and of itself is cathartic. So go for it.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at February 04, 2018 10:51 AM (3032H)

110 And my condolences for your loss, NL.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 04, 2018 10:53 AM (OgAV7)

111 Northernlurker, another thought. It may sound trite and slightly ghey, but consider keeping a journal as you go through this. Begin at the beginning, write down what you saw, felt, did, experienced. Write about it each day, even if it's a single sentence. After a while, if you do want to write a book, you'll have the source material already prepared. Even if you don't decide to write a book, you've given yourself a means to express and work through your grief and your healing.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 10:55 AM (NWiLs)

112 RE: Fly-fishing

If you ever want to see a humorous scene, go to the Frying Pan River above Basalt in late summer and watch the hipster doofus fly-fishermen in their $3000 Orvis hipster waders, and their finely creased empty fishing vests with the price tag still hanging from the zipper; standing elbow to elbow false-casting about a hundred times for each time the fly touches the water. They are able to whip the surface of the water into a froth that would make a barista green with envy.

The really skillful ones will draw a Valentine heart in the foam and add a light dusting of cinnamon.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 04, 2018 10:55 AM (wPiJc)

113 Guess file this under the Anals of Journoling ...

I think an AI wrote this story. From the title one is given the impression this is a new discovery. But it isn't since Hetpet's mummy got moved to Berlin in 1909. This is just new parts of the tomb have been discovered.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8jwyg92

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 10:56 AM (HAhrI)

114 Seems like a sparse book thread. Everyone must be preparing their clam dip for the thing people do on this day, every year, which some of us won't be doing anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 10:56 AM (Pz4pT)

115 I think, at some point, I may have a book within me about loss and grief, grace and healing and friendship.
But then I look at my bookshelf and see A Grief Observed and wonder about going over the same ground others have gone over.
Posted by: Northernlurker
---
As wonderfully as Lewis put down his thoughts in that work, your experience of your grief is your own and may very well hold insights that he did not discover.

My late wifes passing was unique to my family as your lovely wifes was to you. To share with others provided me with the outlet I needed to drive through the storm.

Do it my friend.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 04, 2018 10:56 AM (tr2D7)

116 Both the Kosciuszko Bridge and the Pulaski Bridge cross Newtown Creek, connecting Brooklyn and Queens

Don't know from Haym.

Posted by: Ignoramus
________

There's a Kosciuszko Bridge over the Mohawk in Upstate NY and a town named Pulaski. As for Haym, he played a big part in securing finances so the soldiers in the Continental Army could get paid.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 04, 2018 10:56 AM (y+SdL)

117 86 ... Hi Bandersnatch,

Don't know if I have a way to post photos. But found a book I forgot I had. "The Colonial Angler's Manual of Flyfishing and Floytying" by Ken Reinard. Published by Fox Chapel. I believe it is out of print but Amazon has used copies for under 4 bucks. The author went to written sources and surviving pieces from the eighteenth century. Doubt I'll try making a horse tail fly line since I'm not intimate with any horses. But I think there are materials still around for many other pieces of gear. IIRC, there he includes a pattern that is the ancestor of the Wooly-Worm. Have to look through the book this week.

Just checked. There are a few Youtube videos about colonial-era fishing. Haven't watched them yet.

I ordered several spools of Pearsall gossamer silk thread and floss. These have been the standard for doing classic wet flies like the partridge and orange. Unfortunately, the stuff was recently discontinued and only existing supplies are left. Bummer. Now I just have to learn how to tie these patterns.

Posted by: JTB at February 04, 2018 10:58 AM (V+03K)

118 And while not at all a direct comparison, when I was going through the soul-shredding experience of a divorce, one of the things that held me from complete destruction was hearing the experiences of others who had gone through the same thing and worse. It still hurts, a lot, but it's better to know you're not alone, even if it feels like it.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 10:58 AM (NWiLs)

119 Jordan Peterson lecture at trump hotel last year.

Identity politics and the Marxist lie of white privilege.

Starts slow. 20 minutes in, he is Electric. Then he becomes A MAN ON FIRE.

Worth the one hour eleven minutes.

Remember the ace post yesterday about the school kid that was given a list of white privileges? He exposes the "academic" that wrote it - based upon her personal experience in the 1970s and 1980s. She looks like Minnie pearl.

https://tinyurl.com/yd3rtzaj

Posted by: Simplemind at February 04, 2018 10:59 AM (ZuGkg)

120 111 Northernlurker, another thought. It may sound trite and slightly ghey, but consider keeping a journal as you go through this. Begin at the beginning, write down what you saw, felt, did, experienced. Write about it each day, even if it's a single sentence. After a while, if you do want to write a book, you'll have the source material already prepared. Even if you don't decide to write a book, you've given yourself a means to express and work through your grief and your healing.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 10:55 AM (NWiLs)

I am a habitual journaler. Although I couldn't crack my journal for a week or two. Actually my grief sharing on the HQ has almost amounted to a journal as well.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 10:59 AM (nBr1j)

121 107: Thank God there is no "used Kindle" store.

Posted by: CN at February 04, 2018 11:00 AM (5gaNQ)

122 96 ... "There is no greater fan of fly-fishing than the worm."
Patrick F. McManus

Once again, Pat M. has combined humor with ultimate truth. Thanks for reminding me. Haven't read any of his books in a long time.

Posted by: JTB at February 04, 2018 11:01 AM (V+03K)

123 Northernlurker, another thought. It may sound trite and slightly ghey, but consider keeping a journal as you go through this. Begin at the beginning, write down what you saw, felt, did, experienced. Write about it each day, even if it's a single sentence. After a while, if you do want to write a book, you'll have the source material already prepared. Even if you don't decide to write a book, you've given yourself a means to express and work through your grief and your healing.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 10:55 AM (NWiLs)

For what it's worth, when I went through a period of grief years ago, I was part on an online group that regularly chatted about anything/everything. I did a LOT of writing on this subject for a while... and discovered that online community wasn't interested in my continued writing on this topic.

When I figured that out, I felt hurt and betrayed. I would have preferred someone just tell me, but nobody did. They just quietly started ignoring me.

Friends...

So, I guess the point being, this stuff is messy. Yes, writing can be cathartic. It doesn't mean though, that people are going to want to read it. It's probably a good idea not to mix the two, as I did: Writing for my own needs, and thinking others would either benefit from what I have to say, or at least be interested in it.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 11:02 AM (Pz4pT)

124 114 Seems like a sparse book thread. Everyone must be preparing their clam dip for the thing people do on this day, every year, which some of us won't be doing anymore.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 10:56 AM (Pz4pT)

What's special about February 4?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:02 AM (NWiLs)

125 Why would one electrify a prune Kafka? To kill the cockroaches before ingesting.Would that not deny one of the crunchy mastications and evacuations. Shit if I know.

Posted by: saf at February 04, 2018 11:03 AM (cS/ge)

126 111 Northernlurker, another thought. It may sound trite and slightly ghey, but consider keeping a journal as you go through this. Begin at the beginning, write down what you saw, felt, did, experienced.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 10:55 AM (NWiLs)

Right, and Lewis' 'A Grief Observed' was just this, that is, stuff he had written down in his journals following Joy's death. There wasn't a lot of editing done to it, so his pain is still pretty raw.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 04, 2018 11:03 AM (OgAV7)

127 and discovered that online community wasn't interested in my continued writing on this topic.

Mebbe it was the clam dip........

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:03 AM (FbgyE)

128 What's special about February 4?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:02 AM (NWiLs)

England has one too.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 04, 2018 11:05 AM (QLvwG)

129 Yeah never ever do an online search for Gweneth Paltrow's secret clam dip.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 11:05 AM (HAhrI)

130 I am a habitual journaler. Although I couldn't crack my journal for a week or two. Actually my grief sharing on the HQ has almost amounted to a journal as well.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 10:59 AM (nBr1j)

Of course you couldn't, you were in shock.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:05 AM (NWiLs)

131 Jordan Peterson lecture at trump hotel last year.
Worth the one hour eleven minutes.
https://tinyurl.com/yd3rtzaj

Posted by: Simplemind
________

The terms "Jordan Peterson" and "worth the time" are redundant. Seriously, I can't get enough of that guy's talks.

I'm working my way through his Biblical lecture series. I don't use the term "working" lightly, either. It's rare that watching a YouTube video takes as much effort and focus as actual reading.

I nominate that's guy's videos as honorary books.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 04, 2018 11:05 AM (y+SdL)

132 That photo looks like Berkeley. SJW's emptying the library of triggering books onto the bonfire pile.

Posted by: Roy at February 04, 2018 11:05 AM (ABjxW)

133 What's special about February 4?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:02 AM (NWiLs)

England has one too.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 04, 2018 11:05 AM (QLvwG)

They're on the metric system

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:07 AM (FbgyE)

134 Yeah never ever do an online search for Gweneth Paltrow's secret clam dip.

OK

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:07 AM (FbgyE)

135 Seems like a sparse book thread. ...
Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 10:56 AM (Pz4pT)/

I was thinking the same thing.

Northernlurker, my condolences. I hope that the responses you have gotten has been helping you deal with your grief.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 04, 2018 11:08 AM (5Yee7)

136 "Casual" fly fisher here - I do surprise a few by catching a fair number of bass... there's little to compare with dropping a popper alongside some cover and having a largmouth come flying out of the water...

It gets attention...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 04, 2018 11:08 AM (7LY+6)

137 Casual" fly fisher here -

No pants ?

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:10 AM (FbgyE)

138 The terms "Jordan Peterson" and "worth the time" are redundant. Seriously, I can't get enough of that guy's talks.

I'm working my way through his Biblical lecture series. I don't use the term "working" lightly, either. It's rare that watching a YouTube video takes as much effort and focus as actual reading.

I nominate that's guy's videos as honorary books

=====

This one is the Awesome. It is an utter DESTRUCTION of post modernism. It has all the power of the SMOD. Just smoking ruins left.

Posted by: Simplemind at February 04, 2018 11:11 AM (ZuGkg)

139 I am reading William Makepeace Thackeray's "Vanity Fair" - for the first time. What a delightful book! Funny, tart, yet like all great satire, deeply moral: well worth reading.
Posted by: Brown Line at February 04, 2018 10:31 AM (S6ArX)

My book group read it a while back and I was pleasantly surprised at what an entertaining read it was.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 04, 2018 11:11 AM (y7DUB)

140 No pants ?"

Of course not. SE Texas, so chaps...

Heh

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 04, 2018 11:12 AM (7LY+6)

141 So, I guess the point being, this stuff is messy. Yes, writing can be cathartic. It doesn't mean though, that people are going to want to read it. It's probably a good idea not to mix the two, as I did: Writing for my own needs, and thinking others would either benefit from what I have to say, or at least be interested in it.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 11:02 AM (Pz4pT)

Walking that line is difficult. It is something I'm generally able to do. I gave the eulogy, with personal grief, yet a genuine awareness of honouring Faye and God and the needs of family and friends.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 11:14 AM (nBr1j)

142 No pants ?"

Of course not. SE Texas, so chaps...

Sunburn must be painful

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:14 AM (FbgyE)

143 Jordan Peterson lecture at trump hotel last year.

Identity politics and the Marxist lie of white privilege.

Starts slow. 20 minutes in, he is Electric. Then he becomes A MAN ON FIRE.

Worth the one hour eleven minutes.

Remember the ace post yesterday about the school kid that was given a list of white privileges? He exposes the "academic" that wrote it - based upon her personal experience in the 1970s and 1980s. She looks like Minnie pearl.

https://tinyurl.com/yd3rtzaj
Posted by: Simplemind at February 04, 2018 10:59 AM (ZuGkg)

The concept of privilege is such a weak argument, and I haven't yet jumped into Peterson's book (it's on my desk as I type), I think the whole of the discussion is this:

Yes, life is not fair. Some people are rich, some people are poor. Some healthy, some sick; some good looking, some ugly. And so on and so forth.

And... what?

We can OBSERVE, if we happen to blessed with the privilege of being on the good side of whatever divide we want to consider, but... what?

What do we do with that information? If it means I have an obligation to you... I suppose I do, in the sense that as a moral human being, I want to be of use to my fellow humans. What you do NOT have though, is license to take from me!

Once you use this concept in that way, you are just another oppressive tool. Every other form of oppression has used essentially this same argument: You have what I want, and I'm going to take it from you. It's always wrong, every time.

This time is no different.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 11:14 AM (Pz4pT)

144 If you ever want to see a humorous scene, go to the Frying Pan River above Basalt in late summer and watch the hipster doofus fly-fishermen in their $3000 Orvis hipster wader

Still? I thought that nonsense would have died out by now. "The Movie" attracted a lot of the wrong sort.

There is a wealth of fly fishing literature, aside from the normal how-to's. It's a sport that attracts the contemplative types, so half the guys who can wave a fly stick write books about it.

Some of them are complete assholes. I'm looking at you, Howell Raines.

Some of them are charming. There was a judge from the UP of Michigan who wrote charmingly under the pseudonym Robert Travers. A Colorado guy has made a living out of writing up his fishing trips, John Gierach, whose first book was called Trout Bum and all of his subsequent books have been the same, but he's the cuddly uncle you invite over to tell the same stories over and over again.

The one guy who belongs in the Book Thread as a serious writer is Russell Chatham, who is better known as a western painter. He writes about shooting sports and fly fishing and wine and food and sex and just mixes up all of the good things in life without concern for genre.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 11:15 AM (fuK7c)

145 Longtime lurker, addicted to the AOS Book Thread. Thanks OM! (and CDB for filling in so well).

On Kindle, currently reading "It's Me Again: Volume III of the Bandy Papers" by Donald Jack. Started with III due to a current fascination with the Sopwith Dolphin in WWI. Very funny series about a Canadian officer, starting early in WWI, through (I think) WWII. In this one, published in 1975, he's a Major assigned to command a Dolphin squadron. Opening paragraphs:

"On my way back to the front, I ran over a general.

"I drove on for another hundred yards or so, stopped the car, thought for a moment, then backed up, and pulling carefully alongside him, called out, 'Sir? Sir? Can you tell me the way to my squadron?' And told him the number.

"After all, he was an Air Force general, so he was bound to know.

He didn't seem to be concentrating too well that afternoon, though. As a matter of fact, he was busy counting his teeth."

It's very funny, somewhat like Flashman. Pokes lots of fun at officialdom stuffy brass. Bandy gets to know the Dolphin, spars with his officious adjutant, pesters anyone that will listen about parachutes, and eventually gets sent off to fight in Russia. I'd love to read the whole series; only drawback is that they're all about $9 on Kindle.

Posted by: Pete the POM Inspector at February 04, 2018 11:15 AM (8O4kq)

146 John Gierach, whose first book was called Trout Bum

I read that.

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:16 AM (FbgyE)

147 119. Thanks simplemind. There's no such thing as white privilege. The Irishmen white skin didn't prevent the Crown from starving them. My people's caucasian appearance didn't magically cause food to show up on the table. Italy lost 20% population to emipration caused by the govt giving no fucks about the peasantry. The Ukies' pale complexion didn't save them from the reds.

Posted by: kallisto at February 04, 2018 11:17 AM (sqMPm)

148 Seems like a sparse book thread. Everyone must be preparing their clam dip for the thing people do on this day, every year, which some of us won't be doing anymore.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 10:56 AM (Pz4pT)

What's special about February 4?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:02 AM (NWiLs)

Groundhogs and Groundlings get together, skin a pig, and throw it around for a while.

Happens every year, first Sunday in February.

I think.

Or maybe I have some of those details wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 11:18 AM (Pz4pT)

149 Seems like a sparse book thread. Everyone must be preparing their clam dip for the thing people do on this day, every year, which some of us won't be doing anymore.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 10:56 AM (Pz4pT)

I broke my glasses this morning, like a fucking idiot, and Sundays aren't a good time to do that, particularly when the Walmart vision center hours aren't posted and nobody's answering the phone, so I'm even more pissed off at the world than usual. And fuck the Super Bowl; the only way I'd watch it would be if Goodell was executed at halftime.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 04, 2018 11:18 AM (y7DUB)

150 Has anyone read this book about the ghost fleet in Mallow's Bay? Did not even know this fleet even existed.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yc5mlhy9

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 11:19 AM (HAhrI)

151 ...hipster waders...

Heh

Posted by: Muldoon at February 04, 2018 11:19 AM (wPiJc)

152 Of course "Trout Bum" could also refer to the sunburn one gets when fishing in assless chaps.

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:19 AM (FbgyE)

153 So, I guess the point being, this stuff is messy. Yes, writing can be cathartic. It doesn't mean though, that people are going to want to read it. It's probably a good idea not to mix the two, as I did: Writing for my own needs, and thinking others would either benefit from what I have to say, or at least be interested in it.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 11:02 AM (Pz4pT)

Walking that line is difficult. It is something I'm generally able to do. I gave the eulogy, with personal grief, yet a genuine awareness of honouring Faye and God and the needs of family and friends.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 11:14 AM (nBr1j)

And ultimately, for your process of healing, does it help to be mindful of walking that line?

I don't know the answer. It's a good question to be asking though, I think.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 11:20 AM (Pz4pT)

154 So today's the Super Bowl then? You can see just how little I care...

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:20 AM (NWiLs)

155 What's special about February 4?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:02 AM (NWiLs)

"Superb Owl" day. Our Overlords and Betters who worship moloch are not even hiding it. Seriously, Superb-Owl Party dot com or something literally using the owl. The official Super Bowl party. The owl is the old demon children have been sacrificed to for 1000's of years.

I hate our Marxist culture. Nothing but snares to trap you and flip you upside down. Evil.

Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 04, 2018 11:21 AM (g4lFK)

156 So today's the Super Bowl then? You can see just how little I care...

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:20 AM (NWiLs)

I read on the ONT that you were hosting a party

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:21 AM (FbgyE)

157 156 So today's the Super Bowl then? You can see just how little I care...

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:20 AM (NWiLs)

I read on the ONT that you were hosting a party
Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:21 AM (FbgyE)

Nope, that window of opportunity is now closed.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:22 AM (NWiLs)

158 Jordan Peterson lecture at trump hotel last year.
Worth the one hour eleven minutes.
https://tinyurl.com/yd3rtzaj
====
Watch the video. You are right. But you don't realize in how many different ways you are right. He has thought about these subjects intensely your decades and pulls from history anthropology science literature. The array of facts and linear argument is irrefutable. It is a complete wipe out.

Posted by: Simplemind at February 04, 2018 11:22 AM (ZuGkg)

159 Nope, that window of opportunity is now closed.

Awwwwwwww.......

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:23 AM (FbgyE)

160 Hipster waders, where does the waders end and the hipster starts?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 11:23 AM (HAhrI)

161 I mentioned that I liked the Past Obsession by Richard Kieth Taylor so when I saw that he had written another book, Red Mist, with an interesting premise I bought it. The premise is that young, poor white trash wants to better himself so he plans to join the army and get into military intelligence as a stepping stone to the FBI or CIA. As a part of his training, he is assigned to surveil a public person for practice. (A public person has a lessor expectation of privacy so fewer legal problem if he gets busted.) He is assigned to surveil Marilyn Monroe and this is August 1962 just when Marilyn dies mysteriously after banging JFK and RFK.

The book is pretty interesting up until Marilyn joins the choir eternal but that is only a quarter of the way through and at that point it becomes a pretty standard chase thriller. I haven't finished so there may be some big reveal I haven't discovered. I am less than thrilled with this book in part because I just don't like the romantic interest, a home town kinky heroin-addicted whore.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 04, 2018 11:23 AM (+y/Ru)

162 I realized that the dummies behind #MeToo movement fail to realize that it literally translates into Pound Me Too.

This pleased me I must admit.

Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 04, 2018 11:24 AM (g4lFK)

163 So today's the Super Bowl then? You can see just how little I care...

Posted by: Insomniac
________

Whalers vs. 76ers. Should be a good match!

Posted by: FireHorse at February 04, 2018 11:24 AM (y+SdL)

164 Sunburn must be painful"

What's sunburn?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 04, 2018 11:24 AM (7LY+6)

165 Seems like a sparse book thread. Everyone must be preparing their clam dip for the thing people do on this day, every year, which some of us won't be doing anymore.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 10:56 AM (Pz4pT)

I broke my glasses this morning, like a fucking idiot, and Sundays aren't a good time to do that, particularly when the Walmart vision center hours aren't posted and nobody's answering the phone, so I'm even more pissed off at the world than usual. And fuck the Super Bowl; the only way I'd watch it would be if Goodell was executed at halftime.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 04, 2018 11:18 AM (y7DUB)

Sorry to hear about your glasses! My house is littered with spares, of one sort or another... and I would hope if they ARE going to sacrifice that oversized pig, someone would have the good sense to record the ceremony.

That being said, I think in all the years I watched the Super Bowl, not once did I sit through a halftime show. Damn fool I was, I just wanted them to get the game restarted. None of that nonsense interested me, ever. Although I did watch replays of Justa Timberboy ripping open Janet Jackhole's shirt to expose her mammary fat.

Now that was mammarable.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 11:25 AM (Pz4pT)

166 I find reading about fly fishing and tying to be informative and relaxing. I have many of John Gierach's books, Travers' "Trout Magic" and "Trout Madness" and a bunch of William Tapply's stories.

Bander, Thanks for mentioning Russell Chatham. I'll look for his books as it sounds like the knind of outdoor and related writing I enjoy.

Posted by: JTB at February 04, 2018 11:25 AM (V+03K)

167 The terms "Jordan Peterson" and "worth the time" are redundant. Seriously, I can't get enough of that guy's talks.

I'm working my way through his Biblical lecture series. I don't use the term "working" lightly, either. It's rare that watching a YouTube video takes as much effort and focus as actual reading.

I nominate that's guy's videos as honorary books.
Posted by: FireHorse at February 04, 2018 11:05 AM (y+SdL)

Are you ready for your midterms?

Posted by: Monk, praying for 51 Pinochets at February 04, 2018 11:26 AM (g4lFK)

168 Whalers vs. 76ers. Should be a good match!

I hope the announcer does a better job of explaining centuries and wickets this time.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 11:26 AM (fuK7c)

169
Whalers vs. 76ers. Should be a good match!
Posted by: FireHorse at February 04, 2018 11:24 AM (y+SdL)

What time do they drop the puck?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:26 AM (NWiLs)

170 The illustrator for Jordan Peterson's book has actually been threatened.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/30/ethan-van-sciver-violence/

Posted by: Jim S. at February 04, 2018 11:26 AM (ynUnH)

171 I went to an estate auction last year with Dad because there was a tractor there he wanted to bid on. Found a couple of boxes full of older books. Bought both of them for $2 a box. One was an older first edition of a local author I can't remember who now but its somewhere in this house. I donated most of them to the local library. It's just an idea if you happen to hear of or see an estate auction and like older books. Might be surprised what you find.

Posted by: jsg at February 04, 2018 11:27 AM (cKkj+)

172 Captain Hate, if you can manage to safely make it to WaMart look in the pharmacy/health area. There should be a spot that has reader glasses. Something to get you through until you get your glasses replaced.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 11:27 AM (HAhrI)

173 Watch the video. You are right. But you don't realize in how many different ways you are right. He has thought about these subjects intensely your decades and pulls from history anthropology science literature. The array of facts and linear argument is irrefutable. It is a complete wipe out.

Posted by: Simplemind at February 04, 2018 11:22 AM (ZuGkg)

Now you tell me.

Posted by: Cathy Newman, BBC infobabe at February 04, 2018 11:28 AM (OgAV7)

174 Bander, Thanks for mentioning Russell Chatham. I'll look for his books as it sounds like the knind of outdoor and related writing I enjoy.

Good. I have Dark Waters and The Angler's Coast handy. I'd start with Dark Waters.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 11:28 AM (fuK7c)

175 Haven't watched the SB in three or four years. And I was a devoted Pats fan (boo, hiss!)
Think I'll use the time to finish up The Cuban Affair audiobook I mentioned upthread.
If we were a true imperialistic running capitalist dog country, we should just take over Cuba. Introduce free markets and see what happens, making sure it doesn't turn in to Puerto Rico.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 04, 2018 11:28 AM (Q5pWl)

176 White society didn't automatically embrace my family just on the basis of skin tone. They were mocked for their speech, their food, their quaint habits of bringing farm culture to an urban setting. It took a long time for my dad to break out of the immigrant cohort when getting hired for masonry jobs. I know from firsthand experience that white privilege is bullshit.

Posted by: kallisto at February 04, 2018 11:29 AM (sqMPm)

177 That being said, I think in all the years I watched the Super Bowl, not once did I sit through a halftime show.

The halftime show reminds me of The Ed Sullivan Show.

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:29 AM (FbgyE)

178 And I didn't mean that in a good way.

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:30 AM (FbgyE)

179 170 The illustrator for Jordan Peterson's book has actually been threatened.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/30/ethan-van-sciver-violence/

Posted by: Jim S. at February 04, 2018 11:26 AM (ynUnH)

Here we see the poverty of progressivism. They've run out of arguments. All they have left is violence.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 04, 2018 11:30 AM (OgAV7)

180 The last SB halftime show I watched was the Rolling Stones. They were awful.

Posted by: jsg at February 04, 2018 11:31 AM (cKkj+)

181 3
Good morning - Just started Jordan Petersons *Twelve Rules for Life*
yesterday. Great stuff so far. This is one that I'll have to revisit
again and again. He mentions a metric crap ton of other works and papers
by others, many of which I have not looked at. But now I want to and
have a hook to begin.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 04, 2018 09:01 AM (tr2D7)

I never heard of Peterson until I saw him interviewed by Tucker Carlson. Now I can't stop watching his videos. I don't agree with everything he says, but what a breath of fresh air in the academic world he is!I wasn't going to buy any more books for a while because I've got such a backlog, but well, I might just have to make an exception for Peterson's book.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at February 04, 2018 11:31 AM (P8951)

182 What time do they drop the puck?
Posted by: Insomniac"

In the 3rd inning, duh...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 04, 2018 11:31 AM (7LY+6)

183 182 What time do they drop the puck?
Posted by: Insomniac"

In the 3rd inning, duh...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 04, 2018 11:31 AM (7LY+6)

Well EXCUUUUUSE MEEEEEE!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:32 AM (NWiLs)

184 180
The last SB halftime show I watched was the Rolling Stones. They were awful.

Posted by: jsg at February 04, 2018 11:31 AM (cKkj+)

I thought so too, and I am a Stones fan.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at February 04, 2018 11:32 AM (P8951)

185 Elrond, baby

Posted by: Karmic Justice at February 04, 2018 11:32 AM (eYLLL)

186 Introduce free markets and see what happens, making sure it doesn't turn in to Puerto Rico.
Posted by: RI Redbot at February 04, 2018 11:28 AM (Q5pWl)
---
Let's re-invade California first.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 04, 2018 11:32 AM (qJtVm)

187 I'm going to have to stop my websurfing because it's taking up too much time that I need to spend reading. Although most of my reading right now is academic articles in journals. I'm afraid my interest in political commentary is purely for its entertainment value.

Posted by: Jim S. at February 04, 2018 11:33 AM (ynUnH)

188

Has anyone read the Altered Carbon series by Richard K. Morgan?

I had never heard of him but we started watching the series on Netflix, and one episode in, it seems really really good. Good storyline, good actors, good FX, good everything so far.

Books must be pretty good.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 04, 2018 11:34 AM (fceHP)

189 Here we see the poverty of progressivism. They've run out of arguments. All they have left is violence.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 04, 2018 11:30 AM (OgAV7)
---

Come see the violence inherent in the system!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 04, 2018 11:35 AM (qJtVm)

190 And ultimately, for your process of healing, does it help to be mindful of walking that line?

I don't know the answer. It's a good question to be asking though, I think.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 11:20 AM (Pz4pT)

I think it does help to get at least little outside my own grief and touch others.

I'm off to church in a few minutes but I plan on leaving slightly later than is my preference. Preservice talking and hugging can become overwhelming.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 11:35 AM (nBr1j)

191 What time do they drop the puck?
Posted by: Insomniac"

In the 3rd inning, duh...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 04, 2018 11:31 AM (7LY+6)

What I hate the most is how they approach halftime, and the game comes to a halt as everyone tries to foul the other team, to send them to the free-throw line. It's like they stop the game they were playing, to play another, totally boring game that will decide the outcome of the game they were playing before.

It's the dumbest thing ever.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 11:35 AM (Pz4pT)

192 176 White society didn't automatically embrace my family just on the basis of skin tone. They were mocked for their speech, their food, their quaint habits of bringing farm culture to an urban setting. It took a long time for my dad to break out of the immigrant cohort when getting hired for masonry jobs. I know from firsthand experience that white privilege is bullshit.
Posted by: kallisto at February 04, 2018 11:29 AM (sqMPm)

White privilege is:

Work hard
Get married and stay married
Love your kids
Exercise self-control
Save for the future
Do not live beyond your means
etc.

...and the funny thing about all of these is: you don't have to be white. If you practice them over the course of a lifetime, it doesn't matter what color your skin is, you will most likely be successful. And leave a legacy for your children to build their success on. 'White' privilege, my left nut.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 04, 2018 11:36 AM (OgAV7)

193
I thought so too, and I am a Stones fan.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at February 04, 2018 11:32 AM (P8951)

Can't even remember which SB that was. Sad.

Posted by: jsg at February 04, 2018 11:37 AM (cKkj+)

194
I hope the announcer does a better job of explaining centuries and wickets this time.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 11:26 AM (fuK7c)

Are they going to allow the All Blacks to do a Hakka?

Posted by: Fox2! at February 04, 2018 11:37 AM (brIR5)

195 And ultimately, for your process of healing, does it help to be mindful of walking that line?

I don't know the answer. It's a good question to be asking though, I think.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 11:20 AM (Pz4pT)

I think it does help to get at least little outside my own grief and touch others.

I'm off to church in a few minutes but I plan on leaving slightly later than is my preference. Preservice talking and hugging can become overwhelming.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 11:35 AM (nBr1j)

Very good. Trust your instincts on this.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 11:38 AM (Pz4pT)

196 Most of the way through Death of the Wehrmacht/Citino, about the 1942 campaigns that marked the turning of the tide against Germany.

He places everything firmly in the context of centuries of German military tradition, doctrine, and training, above all the central concept of "Bewegungskrieg" - war of movement. Eventually, in the vastness, and against the vast resources of the USSR, this powerful approach to war simply no longer sufficed.

He also covers Rommel's North African exploits, which on a much smaller scale illustrate the same points. Eventually maneuver was not sufficient to compensate for the adversary's greater resources.

Quite a bit of interesting color and detail along the way (seems that German intel was horrendous, and got worse as the war went along - and in Rommel's case, he basically just did a very pro forma quick recon before launching operations, and of course ended up being surprised, and his plans disrupted, by what his troops found the hard way as they charged ahead).

This is a "break" book. Every 100-200 pages or so of David Glantz's Colossus Reborn (Soviet side of eastern front, 1942-44) I need a break, since Glantz is like reading a physics textbook more than history. Of course there's a nice fit here, as much of Citino's book is the German side of Operation Blue, the huge multi-pronged offensive in the USSR in the summer of '42, the main focus of the Glantz book from the other side.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 04, 2018 11:38 AM (cJDvr)

197 I started listening to the 3rd Orphan X novel, "Hellbent'', by Gregg Hurwitz. It's certainly getting my legs pumping the stationary bike. Starts out with a bang and has not let up. The narrator, Scott Brick, is superb.

I read a little background info on the author. Seems he had a distinguished academic career(Harvard and Oxford). What's more interesting is that Jordan Peterson was one of his teachers and Mr. Hurwitz is an advocate of his thinking. Even quotes him in his novels. Seems all paths lead to Jordan Peterson today. I, too, purchased Peterson's book and look forward to reading it.

Posted by: Tuna at February 04, 2018 11:38 AM (jm1YL)

198 192 176 White society didn't automatically embrace my family just on the basis of skin tone. They were mocked for their speech, their food, their quaint habits of bringing farm culture to an urban setting. It took a long time for my dad to break out of the immigrant cohort when getting hired for masonry jobs. I know from firsthand experience that white privilege is bullshit.
Posted by: kallisto at February 04, 2018 11:29 AM (sqMPm)

White privilege is:

Work hard
Get married and stay married
Love your kids
Exercise self-control
Save for the future
Do not live beyond your means
etc.

...and the funny thing about all of these is: you don't have to be white. If you practice them over the course of a lifetime, it doesn't matter what color your skin is, you will most likely be successful. And leave a legacy for your children to build their success on. 'White' privilege, my left nut.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 04, 2018 11:36 AM (OgAV7)

And the thing is those qualities and habits even help people living in third world dumpster fire countries to slowly improve themselves.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 11:39 AM (nBr1j)

199 Captain Hate, if you can manage to safely make it to WaMart look in the pharmacy/health area. There should be a spot that has reader glasses. Something to get you through until you get your glasses replaced.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 11:27 AM (HAhrI

Thanks. As I've attained codgerhood my near sightedness has actually improved which the eye doc has told me is one of the paltry health benefits of getting old. Mrs H will drive me wherever I need to go once some place is open and I can get the lenses popped out and into a temporary backup frame.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 04, 2018 11:39 AM (y7DUB)

200 I know from firsthand experience that white privilege is bullshit.

Posted by: kallisto at February 04, 2018 11:29 AM (sqMPm)

Yep. The whole "white privilege" argument is based on the idiotic assumption that whites are some sort of monolithic culture. Hell, that's not even true now - look at the contempt white urban libs have for "deplorables" in the sticks. The WASPs once looked down on the Ellis Island immigrants, the immigrants fought with each other, city people have always felt superior to country people, there's the Catholic-Protestant divide and the North-South one . Read "Albion's Seed" about colonial-era settlers and you'll find that the NE Puritans, the Virginia cavaliers, the Pennsylvania Quakers and the Scotch Irish (and northern English) "borderers" didn't like each other at all...

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V has a shiny new laptop at February 04, 2018 11:39 AM (P8951)

201
Work hard
Get married and stay married
Love your kids
Exercise self-control
Save for the future
Do not live beyond your means
etc.

IOW, becoming an Uncle Tom.

Posted by: jsg at February 04, 2018 11:39 AM (cKkj+)

202 Dr. Peterson threatens the Liberal Catechism so he must be made to pay. Same with van Sciver.

There is also a guy named Chagnon and his book Noble Savages: My Life Among Two Dangerous Tribes - The Yanomamo and The Anthropologists.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y89ejrmk

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 11:40 AM (HAhrI)

203 Anyone else prefer short stories to novels? I fear it may have something to do with my attention span. But a collection of short stories makes my heart start beating faster than a novel does. My fiction reading is primarily science-fiction, and what I love primarily is the ideas. So a novel represents variations on an individual theme while a short story collection has a bunch of independent ideas.

Posted by: Jim S. at February 04, 2018 11:41 AM (ynUnH)

204 All Hail Eris, are you being oppressed yet? And where did you get that coconut?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 11:42 AM (HAhrI)

205 And the thing is those qualities and habits even help people living in third world dumpster fire countries to slowly improve themselves.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 11:39 AM (nBr1j)

You spelled "shithole" wrong.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 04, 2018 11:42 AM (OgAV7)

206 What time do they drop the puck?

Posted by: Insomniac
________

They have to do the national anthem (I wonder if anyone will take the elbow) and the ceremonial first pitch. The game itself starts around 6:30, but that's Korean time.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 04, 2018 11:43 AM (y+SdL)

207 There is also a guy named Chagnon and his book Noble Savages: My Life Among Two Dangerous Tribes - The Yanomamo and The Anthropologists.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y89ejrmk
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 11:40 AM (HAhrI)

I think I mentioned this book in a book thread 2-3 years ago. Wouldn't hurt to bring it up again, I suppose.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 04, 2018 11:43 AM (OgAV7)

208 205 And the thing is those qualities and habits even help people living in third world dumpster fire countries to slowly improve themselves.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 11:39 AM (nBr1j)

You spelled "shithole" wrong.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 04, 2018 11:42 AM (OgAV7)

Okay, okay. You caught me. I didn't want my last words before heading to church to include shithole.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 11:43 AM (nBr1j)

209 >>> The narrator, Scott Brick, is superb.

I've been listening to some Tom Clancy novels lately. Concur on Mr Brick.

Posted by: fluffy at February 04, 2018 11:44 AM (cHbmY)

210 Because we had the Nunes memo released this week I
am going to recommend The New Class: Analysis of the Communist System by
Milovan Djilas. Djilas was a partisan during the war and a member of
the politburo in Yugoslavia under Tito. He argues that instead of
creating a classless society, the communists have replaced the
capitalists with a New Class of rulers: the bureaucrat. As Marx
predicted, the ruling class bureaucrats act in their own class interest
by expanding their power and controlling institutions to consolidate
their power. It is interesting history, and an insight into the mindset
of Comey, McCabe, Strzok and the rest of the swamp.
Posted by: Bucky at February 04, 2018 10:09 AM (/aiGx)

A book suggested to me was Social Class and State Power: Exploring an Alternative Radical Tradition which is an anthology of non-marxist thinking on class structure and class struggle edited by David M Hart and Gary Chartier.

It uses excerpts from such authors as Richard Overton of the Levelers (English Civil War), through Spooner and on to very recent works.
It is designed around the idea that the class struggle is actually a struggle for access to government power, not access to the means of production.
(I have very distinct ideas about this too, I may work up an essay about it)

It is however $100 in hardcover so I am not buying it until it hits the remainders bin.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 04, 2018 11:44 AM (2K6fY)

211 Are they going to allow the All Blacks to do a Hakka?

Ya mean cough up a loogie ?

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:44 AM (FbgyE)

212 Anna, I always flatter myself that *I* am the oppressor.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 04, 2018 11:44 AM (qJtVm)

213 I have ALWAYS preferred Short Stories to longer works. I like the discipline it takes for a writer to work out his idea and wrap them up succinctly without delving into chapters full of digressions and filler.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 04, 2018 11:44 AM (V2Yro)

214 slowly improve themselves.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at February 04, 2018 11:39 AM (nBr1j)

See it's the slowly that gets them. Sacrifice is for thee, not for me.

Posted by: jsg at February 04, 2018 11:44 AM (cKkj+)

215 192. well said. I can't wait to see the Peterson video. If a sista ever confronts me over white privilege, I'm gonna counter with: Well you have Weave Privilege!! Ok that was TIC

Posted by: kallisto at February 04, 2018 11:45 AM (sqMPm)

216 Anyone else prefer short stories to novels? I fear it may have something to do with my attention span.

Posted by: Jim S.
________

It may have something to do with the superior discipline in producing the former. O. Henry was quite skilled at the craft, especially his stories with Jeff Peters.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 04, 2018 11:46 AM (y+SdL)

217 after Friday s memo The mainstream press will
now be the menstrual press

Posted by: vizzy at February 04, 2018 11:46 AM (s5Khz)

218 Anna, I always flatter myself that *I* am the oppressor.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

Well, if there was ever a girl born for dom outfits...

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 11:46 AM (fuK7c)

219 Well that explains the whip and the prod.

*ponders*

Now that would be an interesting book title - The Whip and the Prod.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 11:46 AM (HAhrI)

220 Or the Whip and the Prom....a young man's intro to women's rights and lefts.

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:49 AM (FbgyE)

221
Reading a free download book called "Rewinder" about a dude who sits at the store rewinding all the vhs tapes all day....

jk, its about a secretive group who have time travel devices to go back and make sure history is described correctly.... and by correctly they mean....

don't know, but a few chapters in, good so far.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 04, 2018 11:49 AM (r+sAi)

222 Thanks OM! (and CDB for filling in so well).

******

CDB?

Charlie Drowns Bilbo?

Posted by: Muldoon at February 04, 2018 11:49 AM (wPiJc)

223 Off to the sort of real world - basement workshop. Getting ready for the evening gub thread. BBL, y'all.

Posted by: RI Redbot at February 04, 2018 11:50 AM (Q5pWl)

224 Hipster waders, where does the waders end and the hipster starts?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 11:23 AM (HAhrI)

There was quite a mystery, a few years ago, centered around the fate of a DEA agent, who vanished while flyfishing on the upper reaches of the Jefferson River in Montana. All that was ever found were his boots, which washed up on shore. Spielberg made a movie about it:

Waders of the Lost Narc

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 04, 2018 11:50 AM (Dbv1R)

225 Now that would be an interesting book title - The Whip and the Prod.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 11:46 AM (HAhrI)

The Whip and Prod sounds like the name of an English pub.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 04, 2018 11:50 AM (OgAV7)

226 CDB?

Charlie Drowns Bilbo?

Posted by: Muldoon
________

And we're back to anagrams.

(I think "CBD" is the Charlie Baniels Dand.)

Posted by: FireHorse at February 04, 2018 11:51 AM (y+SdL)

227 200. we don't even have to look back to the southern european immigrant experience to debunk white privilege. If it really is a Thing, how do they explain the generational poverty in Appalachia?

Posted by: kallisto at February 04, 2018 11:51 AM (sqMPm)

228 Waders of the Lost Narc

nice

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:51 AM (FbgyE)

229 >>> Now that would be an interesting book title - The Whip and the Prod.

Gives me an idea...

Posted by: Gregg Allman at February 04, 2018 11:51 AM (cHbmY)

230 ~~Sitting~~ Suffering through online CLE today. Only six more hours to go! FML...

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:52 AM (NWiLs)

231 219 ... "Now that would be an interesting book title - The Whip and the Prod."

Sounds like Miss Lockrow, my third grade teacher. She made Gen. Patton look wussey. But boy did you learn in her class.

Posted by: JTB at February 04, 2018 11:52 AM (V+03K)

232 It's not an either/or with me but I definitely like short stories.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 04, 2018 11:52 AM (y7DUB)

233 227 200. we don't even have to look back to the southern european immigrant experience to debunk white privilege. If it really is a Thing, how do they explain the generational poverty in Appalachia?
Posted by: kallisto at February 04, 2018 11:51 AM (sqMPm)

My family tree reaches up thataway. I know the stories of grinding poverty. The white privilege propagandists can fuck right off.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 04, 2018 11:53 AM (NWiLs)

234 Reread Harry Turtledove's The Road Not Taken
contained in Warrior (There Will Be War #5)
edited by Jerry Pournelle.

Just for fun.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 04, 2018 11:53 AM (hyuyC)

235 What am I missing?

McCabe got driven from the FBI recently because Director Wray learned that McCabe had sat on the Weiner laptop for weeks, hoping to run out the clock.

Comey had told Congress that he would report back if there were any material developments about Hillary's e-mails. He went public in late October saying that he only found out about the Weiner laptop being relevant the day before.

Is this credible? If it's true why didn't Comey reprimand McCabe for misleading him, and for obvious bias in favor of Hillary?

Word is that the real reason Comey went public is that the investigators in NYC who first got the Weiner laptop were threatening to go public.

I had speculated that it was Stzrok who did the quick and dirty review of the laptop so that Comey could say "nothing to see hear, move along." Sure enough there was a Stzrok e-mail released this week that confirmed this. Holy Fucking Coincidence Batman!

The Weiner laptop is a simple and easy to prove microcosm of the bigger conspiracy. You can bet that there were classified documents on the laptop got there because of Huma. This is outside what she got immunity for -- which was about Hillary's server. If you look and find them then you know that Stzrok and Comey are crooks.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 04, 2018 11:53 AM (pV/54)

236 The Whip and Prod sounds like the name of an English pub.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 04, 2018 11:50 AM (OgAV7)

I lost all interest when I found out there isn't a 1973 Coupe DeVille with spinner rims involved at ALL.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 04, 2018 11:53 AM (y87Qq)

237 if you can manage to safely make it to WaMart look in the pharmacy/health area. There should be a spot that has reader glasses. "

Local wally has a 3 pack of decent readers for under 10 bucks. Got 'em stashed around casa mouse...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 04, 2018 11:54 AM (7LY+6)

238 The dollar store has 'em for.......

a DOLLAR !

ask me how I know.

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 11:55 AM (FbgyE)

239
Whenever I hear somebody say "white privilege", I hear "I want to take your stuff". F U, get your own stuff.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 04, 2018 11:55 AM (r+sAi)

240 Jim S, I love short stories! A good short story is as satisfying as a novel, and can be read when I don't have a lot of time.

My standard vacation fare has always been that year's "Best Short Stories of ####". So perfect!

Posted by: April at February 04, 2018 11:56 AM (e8PP1)

241 Anyone else prefer short stories to novels? I fear it may have something to do with my attention span. But a collection of short stories makes my heart start beating faster than a novel does. My fiction reading is primarily science-fiction, and what I love primarily is the ideas. So a novel represents variations on an individual theme while a short story collection has a bunch of independent ideas.
Posted by: Jim S. at February 04, 2018 11:41 AM (ynUnH)

I'm not a fan of the novel, generally. I have read some that were worth it, but all too often when I've put forth the effort, and I'm a slow reader, when I get done I find myself asking, "is that all there is?"

To me, the "payoff" has to be something meaningful, something that informed me of the human condition, that I didn't know before, and couldn't get some other way, in another means of delivering it.

So few novels even try to do that, and I'm not blaming anyone, just noting that I'm not going to devote that amount of time and mental energy to merely be entertained.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 11:56 AM (Pz4pT)

242 The Whip and Prod, a classic English-style pub on the outside where the Muffin Man song takes on new meaning inside...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 11:58 AM (HAhrI)

243 233. yup . I just got a part time job and my boss is a SJW type. Can't WAIT for the privilege discussion to come up.

Posted by: kallisto at February 04, 2018 11:59 AM (sqMPm)

244 Wondering if anyone has seen or read any alternate history books in which 1) the Mexican states which rebelled along with Texas won their independence, or 2) that guy in Otsu did assassinate Nikolai Romanov.

... yeah, kinda random; but a lot of the same events are very frequently covered (shocker), so I'm looking for something different.

Posted by: Helena Handbotsket at February 04, 2018 11:59 AM (0ReGO)

245 the Muffin Man song takes on new meaning inside...
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 11:58 AM (HAhrI)

The Zappa one?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 04, 2018 11:59 AM (y87Qq)

246 I suspect many a promising short story has been ruined because the writer fancied himself a novelist.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 04, 2018 12:00 PM (wPiJc)

247 Just a column, not a book, but severe conservative George Will explains why the Truml economy looks good but is really, really bad. Link to WaPo, Home of the True Conservative!

http://wapo.st/2nI1fWv

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 04, 2018 12:00 PM (+y/Ru)

248 Local wally has a 3 pack of decent readers for under 10 bucks. Got 'em stashed around casa mouse...

May I indulge in a Libertarian Whinge here? Well, I'm going to anyway. Con su permesso.

If I want to have a better look at a book I can go down to CVS and try on different reading glasses and walk away with a $12 pair, $20 if I think they make me look sexy.

If I want to drive I have to go to an optometrist for $150 and get a prescription for $200 glasses. The glasses will last, but if I want contact lenses I have to have seen the optometrist withing the last 12 months.

What's so magic about getting glasses? Why do we have this protected guild system? Oh, you can figure out reading glasses on your own but it takes a caste member to let you see at distance?

I say phooey. Phooey upon the whole system.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 12:00 PM (fuK7c)

249 80 Speaking of Poland, I seem to recall the James
Michener wrote a novel "Poland" some years ago. Anyone ever read it and
what did you think of it?

Posted by: JTB

Michener has his own style, which might not be everyone's cuppa, but I like it. Each book starts off from the very beginning (ie like with the creation of the universe), and much of the narrative comes from the POV of a few fictional families living thru each era.

Poland was, and is, the whipping post of damn near every empire that ever arose in Europe/Asia. They all stopped by to loot the locals and chop off some heads; this made the Poles warlike and insular.

Pretty good historical fiction imho. I read it about 20 years ago.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 04, 2018 12:00 PM (0ogQG)

250 Poland is the Israel of Europe. Everyone travels through it to get somewhere else.

----
Zappa version?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 04, 2018 12:02 PM (HAhrI)

251 Just a column, not a book, but severe conservative George Will explains why the Truml economy looks good but is really, really bad. Link to WaPo, Home of the True Conservative!

http://wapo.st/2nI1fWv
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 04, 2018 12:00 PM (+y/Ru)

No thanks.

That guy is verbal diarrhea. If I want diarrhea, I'll eat mexicans.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 12:02 PM (Pz4pT)

252 Poland is easily understood. It's the flat place between Germany and Russia.

Sucks to be them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 12:03 PM (fuK7c)

253 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 04, 2018 12:03 PM (mpXpK)

254 Just a column, not a book, but severe conservative George Will explains why the Truml economy looks good but is really, really bad.

Maybe he can write another column explaining who the fook Truml is.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 12:03 PM (FbgyE)

255 Poland is easily understood. It's the flat place between Germany and Russia.

Sucks to be them.

My college European history prof called it a GREAT place to have a war.

Posted by: JT at February 04, 2018 12:06 PM (FbgyE)

256 I say phooey. Phooey upon the whole system. Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 12:00 PM (fuK7c)
=====

We have been going to America's Best, and if you are careful you can get away with their advertized price and really ugly glasses, which is okay if you are working on a retro look. Then, go on the web with your prescription in hand to Zenni Optical and order more glasses ($20 to $30 per pair) and they ship to your house. Rather than the $300-$500, it gets it down to total about $150.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 04, 2018 12:06 PM (MIKMs)

257 How about the Indian immigrants who arrive here on work visas and immediately land on home plate? And then granted resident status coz their company likes their contribution? I see Chinese and Indian immigrants enjoying a higher living standard than my fam, and they just got here. Are those folks all white privileged up?

Posted by: kallisto at February 04, 2018 12:07 PM (sqMPm)

258 What's so magic about getting glasses? Why do we
have this protected guild system? Oh, you can figure out reading
glasses on your own but it takes a caste member to let you see at
distance?

I say phooey. Phooey upon the whole system.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 12:00 PM (fuK7c)

That optometrist visit is your first line of defense against insidious diseases that could rob you of your vision entirely, like glaucoma, or macular degeneration.
Think of it as preventive maintenance.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 04, 2018 12:07 PM (Dbv1R)

259 I say phooey. Phooey upon the whole system.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 12:00 PM (fuK7c)

Agreed, it's a b.s. process, one that involves an unnecessary extra step. You don't have to go through the first part. Just let me try on different lenses, see what works and what doesn't.

However... I do prefer contact lenses, and when you have a degree of near-sighted and far-sightedness, that is an excruciatingly difficult process. It probably doesn't have to be, but I have to go through several pairs before we get the prescription right for each eye.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 04, 2018 12:07 PM (Pz4pT)

260 We have been going to America's Best

Oh, thank you. That's actually useful. I was unfamiliar with them but they have a couple of locations nearby. Thanks.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 12:10 PM (fuK7c)

261 I guess train wrecks are now a thing. One this morning in SC. Two dead.

http://www.thestate.com/news/local/article198332739.html

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 04, 2018 12:11 PM (+y/Ru)

262 248 bandersnatch ranted:

If I want to drive I have to go to an optometrist for $150 and get a prescription for $200 glasses. The glasses will last, but if I want contact lenses I have to have seen the optometrist withing the last 12 months.

What's so magic about getting glasses? Why do we have this protected guild system? Oh, you can figure out reading glasses on your own but it takes a caste member to let you see at distance?

Amen. But there are ways to reduce those #s. One -- Walmart has exams for $58 (that was the price the last time I went, about 5 years ago). The guy was quite competent.

It's probably a good idea to have your eyes checked by a pro every so often, to look for trouble like glaucoma, detached retinas, macular degeneration, etc.

Two -- With your scrip in hand, you can order your glasses online, at considerable savings. You'll have to do a few simple facial measurements if you want your glasses to fit properly.

Daily Caller had an article/ad for one such place -- I bookmarked it a couple of months ago and plan to try them out soon.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8u87gvj

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 04, 2018 12:13 PM (0ogQG)

263 It's a strange, strange world were living in, Master Jack.

Secret Alliance: Israel Carries Out Airstrikes in Egypt, With Cairo's OK...

Linked on Drudge.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 04, 2018 12:14 PM (+y/Ru)

264 249 ... Thanks, GnuBreed. I can't remember the last time I read a Michener novel. Must be decades.

No family connection but I've long had an interest in Poland and the general area. The ability to maintain any ethnic identity with the constant invasions and warfare is impressive. And I believe it was the Polish underground that obtained the first Enigma machines for the Allies in WW II.

Posted by: JTB at February 04, 2018 12:15 PM (V+03K)

265 Oh, my.

http://bit.ly/2DYUaaR

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Robot, You Jane at February 04, 2018 12:18 PM (+y/Ru)

266 The Zappa one?
Posted by: hogmartin at February 04, 2018 11:59 AM (y87Qq)
---
Gurl, you thought he was a man, but he was a muffin....

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 04, 2018 12:20 PM (qJtVm)

267 I didn't realize that I'd actually seen Jordan Peterson lecture on TV until beginning 12 Rules. Good old Channel 42 which came in beautifully until I moved a few miles inland.

I got the Audible version because he reads it and the ebook so I could reread sections at my leisure.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 04, 2018 12:21 PM (G8B7r)

268 196 another one I'd read if I had time.

Posted by: Skip been waiting 36 years for today, Go Birds! at February 04, 2018 12:21 PM (aC6Sd)

269 May I indulge in a Libertarian Whinge here? Well, I'm going to anyway. Con su permesso.

If I want to have a better look at a book I can go down to CVS and try on different reading glasses and walk away with a $12 pair, $20 if I think they make me look sexy.

If I want to drive I have to go to an optometrist for $150 and get a prescription for $200 glasses. The glasses will last, but if I want contact lenses I have to have seen the optometrist withing the last 12 months.

What's so magic about getting glasses? Why do we have this protected guild system? Oh, you can figure out reading glasses on your own but it takes a caste member to let you see at distance?

I say phooey. Phooey upon the whole system.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 04, 2018 12:00 PM (fuK7c)

The problem you describe has already been fixed, you just don't know about it.

Check out zennioptical.com - high quality prescription glasses ordered online and shipped to you for $15-30, including lots of styles, options and features. There are other companies doing the same thing, but I can personally vouch for Zenni over three orders. No one should pay $200+ for glasses ever again.

Posted by: cool breeze at February 04, 2018 12:38 PM (2cg7P)

270 I already have my books out on Kobo through Smashwords, thankfully, but this is a good thing for independent authors.

And yeah I got my glasses at Wal*Mart and they are just fine. It was around 200 total for exam and lenses/frames etc, full package.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 04, 2018 12:45 PM (39g3+)

271 I confess that I am in kind of a dry spell right now in terms of reading. It happens every so often, where I just don't read very much for a while. Then I become very hungry for words and read like crazy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 04, 2018 12:50 PM (39g3+)

272 That optometrist visit is your first line of defense against insidious diseases that could rob you of your vision entirely, like glaucoma, or macular degeneration.
Think of it as preventive maintenance.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 04, 2018 12:07 PM (Dbv1R)

My last visit revealed I'm at the beginning stage of cataracts. With that information I researched methods I can take to slow the process. If not for spending the extra dollars I would continue all the bad things I've been doing my entire life.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 04, 2018 01:16 PM (2FqvZ)

273
The Dr. Jordan Peterson video in the link way above (simplemind) is well worthwhile watching.

Repeat the link:
https://tinyurl.com/yd3rtzaj

He's a Professor of Psychology -- proof that there are some excellent people in the field. The left hates him and tries to keep him off their campuses. Need I say more?

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 04, 2018 01:22 PM (2FqvZ)

274 I'm late getting here thanks to the landlord needing to replace a leaky bathroom sink, so I'll post this question then go back and read the thread, hoping it doesn't get too expensive!

My youngest sister and I are both interested in finding a good study Bible, and I promised I'd ask the Horde. So what would you recommend? She's active in her church and fairly knowledgeable, where I've been some variety of questioning, agnostic, or pagan/polytheist for ... um, just say a very long time, since before I was 10. So if you think we need different ones, that's fine, just let me know which one your recommendation is for.

Posted by: empire1 at February 04, 2018 02:04 PM (vUdDs)

275 274
I'm late getting here thanks to the landlord needing to replace a leaky
bathroom sink, so I'll post this question then go back and read the
thread, hoping it doesn't get too expensive!

My youngest sister and I are both interested in finding a good study
Bible, and I promised I'd ask the Horde. So what would you recommend?
She's active in her church and fairly knowledgeable, where I've been
some variety of questioning, agnostic, or pagan/polytheist for ... um,
just say a very long time, since before I was 10. So if you think we
need different ones, that's fine, just let me know which one your
recommendation is for.

Posted by: empire1 at February 04, 2018 02:04 PM (vUdDs)

I checked Amazon and they have several for the Kindle

A beginners for $2.99
http://tinyurl.com/ybapjdfq
And a more advanced (and expensive) for $24.08.

http://tinyurl.com/ycpz32wr

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 04, 2018 02:32 PM (mpXpK)

276 188

Has anyone read the Altered Carbon series by Richard K. Morgan?

I had never heard of him but we started watching the series on Netflix, and one episode in, it seems really really good. Good storyline, good actors, good FX, good everything so far.

Books must be pretty good.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 04, 2018 11:34 AM (fceHP)

I really enjoyed them. Be warned: They're very hard edged. Graphic language, graphic violence. Graphic sex. Morgan is about as subtle as a shovel to the face. Having said that, good character and stories.

Posted by: Shannow at February 04, 2018 03:03 PM (8RYhA)

277 Barnes and Noble, failing. I'll miss the local store when it inevitably closes. Besides the pressure from online sales, there were numerous strategic errors, such as their disastrous foray into pornography, "Bums and Nubile."

It's sad. Soon everything will be internet based. There will be no place left to hang out with real books, furtively read magazines for free, or slip slices of bacon into a koran.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 04, 2018 03:46 PM (t5m5e)

278 Waaaaay late. Still working on Churchill's six volume WWII memoir. Now on Vol. IV. It is peppered with memos/letters/addresses as they were written at the time. Pretty fascinating if one has a decent grasp of the war. BTW, Stalin was a pompous asshole, and that was his endearing side.

Just acquired a copy of Moron (who?) recommended 'Five Days in London, May 1940'.

Last week finished 'The King's General', Du Maurier. Decent and entertaining historical novel occurs during English civil war.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 04, 2018 06:08 PM (7ThJ3)

279 My youngest sister and I are both interested in finding a good study Bible, and I promised I'd ask the Horde. So what would you recommend?

New Reformation Study Bible is very good.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 04, 2018 08:31 PM (39g3+)

280 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyWG5XU7nls

Goose vs. elephant. Better than Timberlake

Posted by: Shannow at February 04, 2018 08:42 PM (8RYhA)

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