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Weekend Gun Thread
We should keep an eye on the state of Washington. Gun control fights are on the horizon.
Several threads over the past months have highlighted America's law enforcement failings. Should police enjoy qualified immunity?
The Ace of Spades, Smart military blog.
"A-10 savin' the day again, baby!" That's what U.S. troops on the ground scream for joy after an A-10 Thunderbolt II pilot swoops down low for a "gun run" in Afghanistan.
Did you ever own a semi-automatic pistol before that fateful canoe trip?The humble beginnings of the semi-automatic pistol. h/t Anonosaurus Wrecks.
Before the turn of the 20th century, no one knew what a magazine-fed pistol should look like, and theories varied greatly. In the early 1890s, Austrian Joseph Laumann re-designed his Model 1891 8 mm repeater pistol (above) to function as a blowback-operated semi-automatic. The history of the semi-automatic pistol may appear a bit disjointed, for the story requires tying together separate events from around the world as the best minds in the industry focused on creating the simplest, most durable and most user-friendly handgun. The potential reward was enormous, as every military in every country was a prospective buyer, not to mention the legions of civilians. After all, who wouldn’t be interested in a new handgun that offered advanced firepower? And so some of the greatest firearm designers in history embarked on what may have been their best-supported and most prolific period of creativity
Wow, not impressed with this UK firearms surrender.
England promoted a national firearms amnesty/turn-in during 2017. In Bristol, 313 “guns” were turned in, along with a whopping 120 rounds of ammunition. That’s one round of ammo for every 2.6 “guns.”. I put “guns” in quotes, because . . . only 186 of the 313 items were actual firearms. Most of those had no ammunition for them.
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:05 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:05 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: illiniwek at January 14, 2018 07:05 PM (otAqJ)
http://bit.ly/2r8uIxG
It looks like a good price and I already have a bunch of 45 hardball to feed it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 14, 2018 07:06 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 14, 2018 07:08 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:08 PM (aC6Sd)
Grump, I'm a big, big fan of the Springfield XD. It's my preferred carry gun because it digests absolutely everything. I also like the easy-to-actuate grip safety, personally.
I own two of the XD 45 and my wife owns one as well.
Main differences with the XDM 45 is the match barrel. Personally, I find the XD to be more accurate than I am, so been happy with the accuracy of my regular models.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:08 PM (xJa6I)
Like maybe this?
https://www.airgundepot.com/airforce-texan-ss.html
Here's a video on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsSYngXbCc0
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 14, 2018 07:08 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at January 14, 2018 07:10 PM (ILitO)
I would have expected the grip to be too large for a woman. Does your wife have largish hands?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 14, 2018 07:10 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:08 PM (aC6Sd)
I just had an image of a Vulcan in a huge bathtub.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2018 07:12 PM (ycWCI)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 14, 2018 07:12 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2018 07:12 PM (ycWCI)
And not Spock.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2018 07:12 PM (ycWCI)
I served in peace time, but the A-10 is still my favorite warbird.
Posted by: fluffy, 11B at January 14, 2018 07:12 PM (cHbmY)
On a positive note, last week I prepped over 1500 .223/5.56 cases. Of course, it's too dang cold to go to the range.
Posted by: RI Red at January 14, 2018 07:13 PM (rQnkC)
Dip is still there.
Training was performed at 5 and 7 yards and one magazine at 10 yards. 95% of shots were on bad guy. Not all were where I'd want them, but was going for speed this week.
That's the good news. Bad news is, when I speed up, the 'dip' is even more pronounced. Lots of 'low and right' hits.
I don't think I have the right stance, either. I have been trying Jeff Cooper's technique, but that is forcing the muzzle of my pistol down to keep my elbow by my ribs. Would love to go to Gunsite to get that nailed down but...would also love to be employed again. One predicates the other.
I may try a different grip next week, see if I can find something that feels good, is accurate and is something I can get into and use under stress.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:13 PM (xJa6I)
I would have expected the grip to be too large for a woman. Does your wife have largish hands?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 14, 2018 07:10 PM (WbIyz)
No, she has tiny girl hands. Even smaller than mine
She just really likes the 45 ACP recoil impulse and the ergonomics of the Springfield seems to work for her.
I tried her out on a vast, vast array of pistols but she prefers Springfield 45s.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:14 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2018 07:14 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2018 07:15 PM (pvN1D)
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at January 14, 2018 07:15 PM (ILitO)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:15 PM (aC6Sd)
If I was looking for another 45acp semi, it would probably be the XDM. It appears to be a great value.
Posted by: JTB at January 14, 2018 07:16 PM (V+03K)
Literally relatives from the Cjvil War from the Union enemy, WWII from nazis and Jap enemies, Vietnam from the commies, and about 100grand worth of old 12, 20, 16, and 410 gauges used to hunt quail, dove, and ducks. And the rifles.
They turned into rust. Ruined beyond repair. Basically had to give them away or she would call the cops.
Great way to honor my families veterans and generations of teaching sons to hunt.
*ragestroke*
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 07:17 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at January 14, 2018 07:18 PM (7oUUT)
I served in peace time, but the A-10 is still my favorite warbird.
Posted by: fluffy, 11B at January 14, 2018 07:12 PM (cHbmY)
Ditto that. the Hog is the foot soldier's best friend.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 14, 2018 07:19 PM (bNbo2)
I am so, so sorry man.
Having a spouse on the same page as you are, gun-wise, is damn important.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:19 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:15 PM (aC6Sd)
I saw that and thought, M.M. (Moron Material)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2018 07:20 PM (3/sUh)
Need to get my SIG P365 ASAP, just in case.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 14, 2018 07:21 PM (TKmA0)
Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2018 07:21 PM (zLDYs)
Great way to honor my families veterans and generations of teaching sons to hunt.
*ragestroke*
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 07:17 PM (g4lFK
Damn. Just...damn.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 14, 2018 07:22 PM (bNbo2)
CRPA and the NRA/ILA will be filing suit any day now, as they have been circulating agreement and waiver documents to plaintiffs.
with any luck, they will seek, and get, an injunction, based on their likelihood of succeeding, since they are claiming a violation of the Commerce Clause, as well as the 2nd Amendment. (just a guess on my part, i have no actual knowledge of what their tactics are, just the general grounds they are filing under)
since the law clearly inhibits free trade across state lines, it *should* be a slam dunk, except 9th Circus. however, they are filing Insane Diego, possibly even with the same judge that made the Peruta decision, so we shall see.
more details as i get them.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 14, 2018 07:22 PM (8CMuu)
pistol should look like, and theories varied greatly. In the early
1890s, Austrian Joseph Laumann re-designed his Model 1891 8 mm repeater
pistol (above) to function as a blowback-operated semi-automatic."
If you don't already know about it, Forgotten Weapons has a whole bunch of videos about early self-loading pistol development. It's a helluva timewaster:
Forgotten Weapons:
http://www.forgottenweapons.com/
Forgotten Weapons YouTube channel:
https://tinyurl.com/qzw8s5s
Posted by: Monty James at January 14, 2018 07:22 PM (gKOMX)
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 07:23 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 07:23 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 14, 2018 07:23 PM (TKmA0)
Posted by: JTB at January 14, 2018 07:24 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 07:23 PM (pV/54)
With some cautions, yes.
Raylan is depicted as a very skilled handgunner and at least in the first season, where a lot of gunplay happens, nothing struck me as being too 'Hollywood'.
Fight choreography is competent and guns do not have unlimited ammo. Which is less of an issue as Raylan ends most fights with three rounds or less.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:25 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 14, 2018 07:25 PM (H5rtT)
No. It needs to be heavily modified or stripped entirely.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 07:26 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2018 07:26 PM (pvN1D)
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 07:26 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 14, 2018 07:27 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 14, 2018 07:23 PM (TKmA0)
You can get some combloc .32s very cheap nowadays. I've see CZ 50 and CZ 70's for a little over $200 at J&G sales, Classic Firearms and a few other sites.
If you want very small but reliable, the Kel Tec is surprisingly good in .32. And it's tiny and cheap. If you want a polymer .32, I'd go with them.
Metal, go cz or zastava m70 .32. Check out Mrgunsandgear's youtube channel, he had a recent overview of .32 pistols from Eastern Europe.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:28 PM (xJa6I)
Both are in .38 Smith & Wesson. Fat slow round but accurate.
Top breaks and fun to shoot.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 14, 2018 07:28 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:28 PM (aC6Sd)
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It's kinda funny. People talk about how the A-10 and similar dedicated close support aircraft would be useless in a modern battlefield. The claim is that enemy interceptors would knock them down if the sky was contested.
Yeah, about that...
One of the tabletop games I play covers a hypothetical World War III breaking out in Europe in 1985. The developer included air support aircraft (including Cobras and A-10s; the Apache, sadly, was a year or two later). The general feeling on the forums for that company (and people posting there include a lot of individuals who have served in the military) is that Close Support missions would have been largely undisturbed during the opening stages of such a hypothetical war.
The argument is actually fairly simple. In air combat, speed is life. And if you're high up in the air, then you can always trade some altitude for speed. So the air combat battles would all be taking place at high altitude. Meanwhile, the ground combat aircraft on both sides would all be flying along at low altitude because that's where they do their job. And any fighter that dropped down to low level to take them out would be incredibly vulnerable to an opposing fighter that was still up at high altitude, and spotted its opponent 10,000 feet lower.
So it's actually mostly safe (aside from AA fire, of course) to run Close Air Support missions - at least until the other side swings the air power battle enough in their favor to feel it's safe to start breaking off fighters to go actively hunt down the CAS aircraft.
Posted by: junior at January 14, 2018 07:29 PM (m3gfa)
Scheels is like Cabelas on crack
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 14, 2018 07:29 PM (mMeIQ)
I just had an image of a Vulcan in a huge bathtub.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2018 07:12 PM (ycWCI)
And not Spock.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
How about Kirstie Alley Saavik?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 14, 2018 07:29 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 14, 2018 07:27 PM (2DOZq)
That was pretty funny.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2018 07:30 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 14, 2018 07:29 PM (IqV8l)
I'll allow it. Narrow window there.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 14, 2018 07:30 PM (ycWCI)
Justified is an awesome show you'll love it.
Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2018 07:26 PM (pvN1D)
Definitely in my all-time top five TV series. Probably top 2. It was sometimes violent, but had a great cast, a lot of LOL moments (Dewey Crowe and his kidneys, por ejemplo). Far less dystopic than The Walking Dead. Plus, Nick Searcy.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 14, 2018 07:31 PM (bNbo2)
Posted by: Winston at January 14, 2018 07:31 PM (wgCUV)
Scheels is like Cabelas on crack
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 14, 2018 07:29 PM (mMeIQ)
LCP 2? That gets a thumbs up. Very shootable gun.
If it's first gen....well, if you love the trigger, go ahead.
How does it feel in your hand? Would it be comfortable to carry? That's more important, really.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:31 PM (xJa6I)
Works for me most of the time.
Posted by: RI Red at January 14, 2018 07:31 PM (rQnkC)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 14, 2018 07:32 PM (bNbo2)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 14, 2018 07:32 PM (nNPAz)
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If California was smart, they'd hurry and fix the problems that have kept people from (legally) buying ammo in the state since the law passed. That way they could stand in front of the judge and say with a (mostly) straight face, "Yes, unfortunate issues were encountered. But we've fixed those issues, and nothing further needs to be done. Just ignore those silly Commerce Clause arguments."
But California isn't smart, and will undoubtedly foot drag things as long as it can to keep people from buying that evil evil ammo for their guns.
Posted by: junior at January 14, 2018 07:33 PM (m3gfa)
At some point though I do want a SIG P230 of Beretta 86 in .32.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 14, 2018 07:33 PM (TKmA0)
Searched around for a picture of the gun system only but couldn't find anything quickly
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:33 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 14, 2018 07:34 PM (mMeIQ)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 14, 2018 07:29 PM (IqV8l)
Definitely would bend her over a comm panel.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 14, 2018 07:34 PM (nNPAz)
Works for me most of the time.
Posted by: RI Red at January 14, 2018 07:31 PM (rQnkC)
Thanks man, advice is always welcome.
I did some drills at 10 yards, including single-shot drills where I'd 'draw' (no real drawing are allowed on range but held pistol as if coming from holster) and fire one shot at 4" targets.
*Shakes head*
More training needed.
It sounds like you're talking Isosceles? If so, that's my most accurate stance. But for speed/stress, I've been trying to do the 'stiff right arm + bent left' Cooper stance. Maybe I need to go back to what works, accuracy-wise.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:35 PM (xJa6I)
Thank you. Beretta and CZs probably have the best fit and finish. Sounds like you know what you want
That's half of it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:37 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 14, 2018 07:37 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 07:37 PM (nisXv)
Posted by: JTB at January 14, 2018 07:37 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 14, 2018 07:37 PM (2DOZq)
Did anyone else hear something about the Navy backing off on deploying railguns? I thought they were a slam dunk for implantation. Anyone know the ifs and whys there?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:38 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Bigby's Pointy Finger at January 14, 2018 07:38 PM (z2W2E)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:40 PM (aC6Sd)
Scheels is like Cabelas on crack
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 14, 2018 07:29 PM (mMeIQ)
Ruger LCP? Probably depends on you hand size. I looked at them when they first came out and they felt too small for my hand. The LC9 is only a little bigger and fits my hand better, so I bought one. Plus 9mm vs .380.
The first generation LC9 has a pretty crappy trigger, I don't know about the LCP. The newest version of the LC9 has a much improved trigger. I'd advise dry firing before buying, to see what you think of the trigger.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 14, 2018 07:40 PM (DNH+H)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:41 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 14, 2018 07:41 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: redbanzai at January 14, 2018 07:41 PM (FTXAT)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:41 PM (aC6Sd)
I love being ancient enough to pass on aphorisms. Or aphids. Or whatever.
Posted by: RI Red at January 14, 2018 07:42 PM (rQnkC)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 14, 2018 07:23 PM
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Walther PP at January 14, 2018 07:42 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:42 PM (aC6Sd)
I use regular Goex black powder in mine but Pyrodex works just as well and is easier to find.
Posted by: JTB at January 14, 2018 07:43 PM (V+03K)
Non-gun friend of mine has a CZ27 in that caliber that his dad (then a Navy pilot) bought somewhere in the early 60s, possibly Europe - therefore it's paperless. Cleaned it up a bit, but decided to take it to a gunsmith for full disassembly/ultrasonic cleaning. Returned it to the friend.
Told him to put it away well hidden if he doesn't plan to learn how to shoot it (he shot it at one session, with me). And if he sells it, to me of course. I don't have or seek that caliber, really, but ...... then I'd have an excuse to get a CZ83 or CZ70 in the caliber. And the dies. Etc. Just one more exception to my very serious, not kidding, I really mean it!, rule on no new calibers.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 07:43 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 14, 2018 07:23 PM
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Walther PP at January 14, 2018 07:42 PM (DMUuz)
You're fine, grandpa, you're fine. Just thinking cost vs value.
Also...your sights are a bit hard to pick up. You know it's true!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:43 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 14, 2018 07:44 PM (mMeIQ)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 14, 2018 07:44 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 14, 2018 07:44 PM (TKmA0)
Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2018 07:44 PM (pvN1D)
Anything more on the Muslim MN cop shooting that Aussie lady for knocking on his door, after she called for the police?
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 07:44 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 07:44 PM (nisXv)
We just had a Scheel's open nearby. I was drooling over the handguns, the vintage rifles and shotguns, the huge stock of ARs. Tons and tons of ammo, even 22 mag, which is my new favorite thing.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 14, 2018 07:45 PM (bNbo2)
Take a look at Ruger's product offerings. They introduced the 9E, their "value enhanced" version of the SR9, a year or two ago. I bought one for under $288 and it's an excellent pistol. Not just a great value--it's a really good pistol without regard to price.
For 2018 Ruger has introduced the Security 9, which also looks to be an excellent pistol. Dealers are accepting pre-orders at $289. This is one of several relatively new pistols apparently designed to compete directly with the Glock 19, but the Ruger's cost is lower than other manufacturers.
Ruger also has introduced the EC9S. This is a value-enhanced version of the LC9S, a single-stack, striker fired 9MM. Dealers are taking pre-orders at $214. That's just an outrageously good value in a carry gun.
Along with those, Ruger has recently introduced the PCC 9MM carbine, which has been discussed here before. It accepts SR9 and Security 9 magazines and ships with an adapter for Glock mags. It's selling for $519.
These new gun prices can reasonably be expected to come down further during 2018.
Ruger is kicking major ass. It'll be interesting to see if this pressures other gun makers to lower prices.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 14, 2018 07:46 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: lin-duh at January 14, 2018 07:46 PM (kufk0)
The only thing I noticed was a few times when an empty (or expected to be empty) semi-auto pistol didn't have the slide lock open.
However, I assume a pistol could be modified to not lock when empty. The trade-off would be a manual re-rack versus not letting the opponent know you're empty.
Also, the show was so often I just let that slide (no pun intended)
Posted by: Chuck C at January 14, 2018 07:47 PM (0V2ki)
I do want the new Ruger pistol carbine. I don't NEED it, as I have a Sub-2000 and a few other pistol carbines...but I want it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:48 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: lin-duh at January 14, 2018 07:46 PM (kufk0)
Ummmmmmmm...Yes! Easy cosmoline removal.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 14, 2018 07:48 PM (EoRCO)
This was a police piece, from before the war. No "Nazi" markings.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 14, 2018 07:49 PM (H5rtT)
Posted by: RI Red at January 14, 2018 07:49 PM (rQnkC)
I also need something classic in .32 ACP, just because. A 1903 Colt? Beretta 86? SIG P230? CZ 83? Seecamp?
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 14, 2018 07:23 PM (TKmA0)
Savage 1905.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 14, 2018 07:49 PM (2K6fY)
Posted by: oldgeezer at January 14, 2018 07:50 PM (4pPcl)
And, of course, I really *do* need to go load 150 45ACP rounds, cuz I then have to load a ton of 9mm. Thursday is range day and my buddy uses my XD9.
Speaking of which, XDs are wonderful, simple, apparently bullet-proof guns (at least in my experience). Guys at the matches say there's a gunsmith who does a complete disassembly/cleaning for $30, but have to meet him evenings at a range a 40-minute drive away. Only drawback to the XDs - and that's really not categorical - is they're not simple to completely disassemble. I'm not shy with bunches and gunsmith's screwdriver, but I am cautious. Of course mine probably has 20,000 rounds through it, with only normal cleaning (which is a snap). I'm sure many guys do full disassembly on their own.
In recent weeks there were a couple of XD45s for sale privately around here for under $400 (like, $350) - low round-count, perfect condition. Jeebus, that's cheap for what you're getting. For lots of reasons just can't justify grabbing one of those right now. 1911 is my only 45ACP platform.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 07:50 PM (QDnY+)
ATI ATIGFX45TIB FX1911 Titan 7+1 45ACP 3.12"
biit.ly/2mHDEWr
I like the idea of all steel, 45acp for ccw, but never fired a 3.12 inch barrel 1911!
Posted by: pogomip at January 14, 2018 07:50 PM (TLxHQ)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 07:50 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 14, 2018 07:50 PM (TKmA0)
Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2018 07:50 PM (pvN1D)
Please help me with this. I have been using a SERPA holster for both my glocks and sigs for some time, and I have never understood the problem with them. With a little bit of training, they put your trigger finger in the perfect position for the draw. I understand the problem of the folks trying to quick draw and curling their finger to get to the trigger quicker (dumbasses) but is there something else I am missing that is such a problem that has ranges banning the use of the SERPA rig??
Posted by: poster nutbag at January 14, 2018 07:51 PM (90kXJ)
Posted by: lin-duh at January 14, 2018 07:46 PM (kufk0)
So...funny story. This really happened to me and is no shit. But...I washed a couple of surplus pistols in our dishwasher.
I was having a real problem with getting all the cosmoline off and....I'm lazy. So I broke two pistols down as far as I could, took the grips off, and washed them.
It...seems to have worked. Just make sure you lube the guns up afterwards. And make sure all the springs are still accounted for. Because I lost one in the dishwasher and it took longer to find the damn thing that it would have taken if I'd just spent the extra hour with some Hoppes #9.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:51 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:52 PM (aC6Sd)
Please help me with this. I have been using a SERPA holster for both my glocks and sigs for some time, and I have never understood the problem with them. With a little bit of training, they put your trigger finger in the perfect position for the draw. I understand the problem of the folks trying to quick draw and curling their finger to get to the trigger quicker (dumbasses) but is there something else I am missing that is such a problem that has ranges banning the use of the SERPA rig??
Posted by: poster nutbag at January 14, 2018 07:51 PM (90kXJ)
You put your finger exactly on why some/many ranges ban SERPA holsters.
Most training places don't want you doing ANYTHING with your trigger finger except pulling the trigger. There have been some Accidental Discharges, not a lot, as a result of fingers being in line with the trigger on the draw stroke.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:53 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 07:53 PM (QDnY+)
Anything more on the Muslim MN cop shooting that Aussie lady for knocking on his door, after she called for the police?
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 07:44 PM (pV/54)
Prosecutor is still dragging his feet on whether to charge or not, as far as I can tell.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 07:54 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: NCKate at January 14, 2018 07:54 PM (k0EPs)
Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2018 07:55 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 07:55 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: robeartoe at January 14, 2018 07:55 PM (/ZCA9)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 07:56 PM (pV/54)
ATI ATIGFX45TIB FX1911 Titan 7+1 45ACP 3.12"
biit.ly/2mHDEWr
I like the idea of all steel, 45acp for ccw, but never fired a 3.12 inch barrel 1911!
Posted by: pogomip at January 14, 2018 07:50 PM (TLxHQ)
I have not used that particular pistol. I will say I've had bad luck with small 1911 frame .45s. Some serious problems chambering and ejecting rounds.
Also, 45 ACP out of a small gun is...not for everyone. I do own and carry a Glock 36, which is killer accurate, but it really needed the Talon grips I put on them in order to keep it in my tiny, womanly hands.
Cavet Emptor.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 07:56 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2018 07:57 PM (pvN1D)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:57 PM (aC6Sd)
That's also the store where, a few years ago when it was new, there was a young clerk in the gun department with "Earp" on his name-tag. Yep, he was related. He said Hollywood lawyers had his father fly out and sign all kinds of waivers right when that movie was made (not sure why or what that's about, but he was directly related in any case). Seemed like the perfect weird detail for a gun store in the west - an Earp on the staff.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 07:58 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: magritte at January 14, 2018 07:58 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 14, 2018 07:21 PM (TKmA0)
I haven't been keeping up with new stuff, so I only heard of this model a couple of days ago.
I am....tempted.
Have you or anyone else here gotten to mess with one?
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2018 07:59 PM (6HFDU)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:59 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2018 07:59 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 07:59 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: RI Red
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I like the .243 a lot. Adequate for anything from ground squirrels to whitetails. Not the first choice for either, but will do the job in the hands a good shooter.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 14, 2018 08:00 PM (c/EDo)
Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2018 07:57 PM (pvN1D)
Did the kneel or hold hands after making the FG?
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 14, 2018 08:00 PM (2DOZq)
If the anti-gun bastards can't kill gun ownership, they will likely make buying ammo as difficult as possible.
Posted by: JTB at January 14, 2018 08:01 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:02 PM (KP5rU)
So, good to hear that Uberti's reputation for quality is rising.
I don't have the dies yet for 45 Colt (unlike .223/5.56, where I also don't yet have a rifle), but I bought some ammo before CA's latest attack on the 2A, and plan to reload. That's one of those calibers which is far too painful at retail/factory prices, if you shoot much of it, but darn cheap if you load your own.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:02 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 08:02 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 08:02 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2018 08:02 PM (pvN1D)
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg
I've been to two (I'm lucky, my closest Appleseed range is the "home" range, so my instructor for both was Fred, the Appleseed Founder). Camped out at the range overnight, enjoyed beers and a fire with other Appleseeders both times. Went with my best friend to one, my 20-ish year old daughter and another good Army buddy the second time. Great for experienced and novice shooters alike.
Second time, I met an active duty Marine lieutenant who we became friends with. He couldn't wait to get back to his unit and pass along what he learned.
You won't walk away a l337 intarnet operator, but you'll walk away much more informed on how to make "a good shot".
I highly recommend them.
Posted by: Oedipus at January 14, 2018 08:02 PM (CXLVd)
Vikings. Unbelievable.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 14, 2018 08:02 PM (2FqvZ)
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 08:03 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 08:03 PM (nisXv)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 08:04 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: NCKate
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There's a time limit on that permit-to-purchase. I don't recall the length of it. Is it a year? Two years?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 14, 2018 08:04 PM (c/EDo)
Also wonder what the immigration and H1B requirements would be. CA to VA is an international move, right?
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:04 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 14, 2018 08:04 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 14, 2018 08:04 PM (mMeIQ)
Posted by: navybrat at January 14, 2018 08:04 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 08:04 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 14, 2018 08:04 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 08:03 PM (NWiLs)
Just stick your fingers in your ears and pretend there's a '42' after the 'FG'. It's what I do.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 14, 2018 08:05 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2018 08:05 PM (6HFDU)
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 14, 2018 08:06 PM (2FqvZ)
As always, with such situations, take it to a *good* gunsmith (someone who is specifically knowledgeable about older platforms), have him check it out and clean it.
Very unlikely there's a reason you can't shoot it. Especially if it looks good and has just sat since the war. I don't even know what caliber that is, but they're all available, at a price. (Fiocchi in Italy, and PPU in Serbia, are known for doing runs of "odd-ball" calibers every now and then, it it's a discontinued caliber)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:06 PM (QDnY+)
I have a P320 full size and it is an excellent pistol. Do I carry it much? No, it lives in the safe most of the tim. and yeah, it's headed for the recall upgrade soon. Usually carry a HK P30F. In fact, the Gould and Goodrich beltslide holster and 2-mag holder fit both pistols. Whammo!
Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2018 08:07 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 08:07 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 14, 2018 08:07 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: pogomip at January 14, 2018 08:08 PM (8TMrc)
Posted by: grammie winger - How many days till Spring Training? at January 14, 2018 08:08 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 08:08 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 08:08 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 08:08 PM (xJa6I)
The blog is kinda over moderated also. NO POLITICS. WATCH YOUR ASS.
CANT COMPLAIN.
fuck em
Posted by: Dave-yeah another one at January 14, 2018 08:08 PM (5Z8KV)
Anything more on the Muslim MN cop shooting that Aussie lady for knocking on his door, after she called for the police?
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 07:44 PM (pV/54)
Prosecutor is still dragging his feet on whether to charge or not, as far as I can tell.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 07:54 PM (NWiLs)
Charge? That fucker needs a grenade pounded in his ass with a 2lb sledgehammer, then thrown out of an airplane for a spectacular airburst.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 14, 2018 08:08 PM (nNPAz)
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 08:03 PM (nisXv)
Great pistol!...Italian Army issue most likely. Most were in .380 although the Eyeties played around with a 9 mm version too.
Very reliable, accurate and robust. James Bond's pistol I believe before he was made to switch to the PPK.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 14, 2018 08:08 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: grammie winger - How many days till Spring Training? at January 14, 2018 08:09 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: grammie winger - How many days till Spring Training? at January 14, 2018 08:08 PM (lwiT4)
They won the game with .00 left on the clock.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at January 14, 2018 08:09 PM (2FqvZ)
Appleseed rocks. EVERY shooter should go through the class at least once. I don't care how proficient you are, or how experienced you are, you can always learn something new.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 14, 2018 08:09 PM (eXA4G)
youtube.com/watch?v=CW4Y6mpCXgQ
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 08:08 PM (NWiLs)
VERY quotable movie.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 08:09 PM (xJa6I)
He's going to need his own plane to get back to NO.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 08:09 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 08:10 PM (aC6Sd)
Anything more on the Muslim MN cop shooting that Aussie lady for knocking on his door, after she called for the police?
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 07:44 PM (pV/54)
Prosecutor is still dragging his feet on whether to charge or not, as far as I can tell.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 07:54 PM (NWiLs)
Charge? That fucker needs a grenade pounded in his ass with a 2lb sledgehammer, then thrown out of an airplane for a spectacular airburst.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 14, 2018 08:08 PM (nNPAz)
I like where your head is at.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 08:10 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 08:10 PM (aC6Sd)
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yaszcvaq
The B stands for "ballistic" so it's sort of relevant to a gun thread.
Here is an introductory film explaining the concept made years before the first missile flew:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTLA1dPby-g
You can understand why there was interservice rivalry in the early days of missiles.
The Air Force was like, "It's high altitude and high speed. We got this."
The Army was like, "It's just really really big artillery. That's our job."
Posted by: rickl at January 14, 2018 08:10 PM (sdi6R)
And we also spent some time in the snowshoe area (their stocks/choice were too low to buy anything), and again - 100% knowledgeable people (who snowshoe, of course).
Based on my visits, Scheels' is a very very well run operation. They invest in their staff, monitor them, and reward them (it was so much fun to tell a roving manager, who asked us the usual question "find everything you need?", how great the woman in shoes was, and how she'd completely changed our approach and sold us great stuff - granted I buy very little, but it's so rare anymore that I get to "reward" good workers with strong recommendations to their bosses).
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:11 PM (QDnY+)
This is pretty much the whole history of Nawlins.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 14, 2018 08:11 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:59 PM (aC6Sd)
That was bad ass. He was picking the guns up off the ground as he was running.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 14, 2018 08:11 PM (nNPAz)
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Of course!! I have two brand new bright and shiny .308 barrels ready to go!
Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2018 08:11 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: grammie winger - How many days till Spring Training? at January 14, 2018 08:11 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2018 08:05 PM (6HFDU)
Ummmmm...No. Normal works fine.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 14, 2018 08:11 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2018 08:12 PM (pvN1D)
Besides, it looked really cool. :-)
Posted by: JTB at January 14, 2018 08:12 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: stace at January 14, 2018 08:12 PM (6HFDU)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 14, 2018 08:08 PM (nNPAz)
Works for me. Like a high-altitude Gallagher show.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 08:13 PM (NWiLs)
looks good and has just sat since the war. I don't even know what
caliber that is, but they're all available, at a price. (Fiocchi in
Italy, and PPU in Serbia, are known for doing runs of "odd-ball"
calibers every now and then, it it's a discontinued caliber)
Thanks. This one is in .32 cal. I'll have to call around to find someone who will look at it and whether they can take it from me, too. I wonder about this county and state I'm in.
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 08:13 PM (nisXv)
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 08:08 PM (aC6Sd
And at least two of the "Dark Web" sites ripped them off!
Posted by: Fox2! at January 14, 2018 08:13 PM (MHKOK)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:11 PM (QDnY+)
Pretty sure there is a Scheel's in Great Falls, MT. Although maybe that's Intermountain West?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 14, 2018 08:13 PM (sD2WN)
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at January 14, 2018 08:14 PM (xFZUI)
Posted by: logprof at January 14, 2018 08:14 PM (2ZFNo)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 14, 2018 08:15 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 14, 2018 08:15 PM (peJQi)
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I used to lurk on the S&W Forum a lot but got tired of it a while ago and haven't been back.
Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2018 08:15 PM (Sfs6o)
That ending was unexpected.
Posted by: Puddleglum at January
saving it for the superbowl.
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 14, 2018 08:15 PM (MTjB1)
They seem to fear those ancient snowbillies and icebacks. Well, that's good enough for me.
That's all I care about is destroying those commie fucks in every way including psychologically.
Go Vikings. We will rise again!
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 08:16 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: grammie winger - How many days till Spring Training? at January 14, 2018 08:16 PM (lwiT4)
Excellent reloading sub-forum, very knowledgeable (and guys will send, free, samples of things to other members for them to try - very much a community).
The Legal Forum, unfortunately, has one moderator who really is the poster boy for "legal guild/technician who can't even bear to think about the judiciary, their orders must simply be respected and followed", who fanatically punishes any actual discussion of the actual merits of court decisions. A prime example of how the US got to where it is, almost post-constitutional.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:16 PM (QDnY+)
Mark Anthony, forget speed until you're back on target. I've not been shooting much over the last few years and when I shot a month ago found myself flinching with my .45 and yanking the trigger, hitting low and left. Had to get out the Smith and Wesson 317 .22 and get back to it. I still need to shoot slowly to score well. A hundred rounds or so, well-aimed, reminded my body how to do it, and my mind that I have no reason to flinch... however, I did discover that my inaccuracy was also partly the pistol's fault.
Due to loss of grip and arm/shoulder strength over the past 5-7 years (as a result of a late-onset Muscular Dystrophy which is now my constant companion), the trigger of my .45 was now too stiff for me to pull smoothly. I deep-cleaned it, polished the appropriate parts, and eased the sear spring enough to lessen the trigger pull to a manageable weight. Of course, the bottom fell out of the thermometer as soon as I got the work done, so I haven't shot it since. If you're fighting your tools, it's tough to do good work.
Posted by: Cowboyneal - the other Jewish carpenter at January 14, 2018 08:17 PM (k2KmM)
We decided to take field trip today after church to check it out
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at January 14, 2018 08:17 PM (mMeIQ)
Posted by: logprof at January 14, 2018 08:19 PM (2ZFNo)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 14, 2018 08:19 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: t-bird at January 14, 2018 08:19 PM (cW490)
The Jags are owned by a Muslim or a Gypsy or somebody who wants to move them to Londonstan. Fuck them too
Philly, the SJWs will find a way to cheer for them since Eagles won't trigger them and Philly bood Santa.
So Vikings. Let the memes flow.
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 08:20 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:20 PM (KP5rU)
If so, nice to see them advance. Best would be a match-up between them and a full SJW franchise (but I don't think any of those remaining are notorious in this respect? Jacksonville? Idiot owner? Didn't they kneel for Old Glory and stand for God Save the Queen over in London? Talk about a perfectly, perfectly designed combo of ignorance and disrespect!).
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:20 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: grammie winger - How many days till Spring Training? at January 14, 2018 08:21 PM (lwiT4)
Back in the late 80s, during one of my unit's big, combined-arms live fire exercises, I got tagged to go up on this mountain top in the impact area of Eielson AFB to put a bunch of plastic silhouettes up to represent enemy soldiers. Actually, kind of a fun detail. Fucking AWESOME scenery. Although it kind of sucked trying to drive stakes into the granite mountain top. Had to find cracks in the rock to drive 'em in.
So the next day, we do a big assault of the mountain. Alternating A10s, artillery, mortars and eventually us grunts walking up the hill shooting small arms. Fun, great fun. The Hogs did a LOT of strafing, which gave us crunchies serious wood.
When we got to the top, I realized that the mountain top that was solid granite 24 hours before was now....... dirt. The A10s had pulverized the rock, and there were 18-20 inch divots all over the mountain top, for at least a 200 meter circle. Damned thing looked like a golf ball.
I'll always love the Hog.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 14, 2018 08:21 PM (eXA4G)
Thanks for the advice and sorry to hear about the MD. Glad you're sticking with the shooting, though.
I'm fine firing slowly. I didn't win the last moron shootoff but I didn't embarrass myself.
The problem seems to be with larger calibers like the 45 I want to carry. I wanted to shoot my PPQ, which I know and trust it's accuracy, at speed. See what I'd find.
I found dipping/flinching
We'll try again next weekend, slow things down and try something else.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 08:21 PM (xJa6I)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 14, 2018 08:21 PM (TKmA0)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:22 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:22 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2018 08:22 PM (pvN1D)
Posted by: grammie winger - How many days till Spring Training? at January 14, 2018 08:22 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:20 PM (KP5rU)
--He was at the game. Best coach never to win a Super Bowl ever
Posted by: logprof at January 14, 2018 08:22 PM (2ZFNo)
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 14, 2018 08:23 PM (peJQi)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 14, 2018 08:23 PM (6FqZa)
I don't own a 9 and am a Sig fan, mine being the J-Lo P232 .380. She played a federal marshall in her breakout movie and carried one, given to her by her Miami detective dad, played by Dennis Farina.
The P365 is a quite tiny 9 with a doublestack mag, and striker fire action.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 14, 2018 08:24 PM (HZWmq)
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 08:24 PM (g4lFK)
google "Savage .32 "WWI Flying Ace" Presentation Pistol"
the link is unmentionable here , it's on "image err"
Posted by: retropox at January 14, 2018 08:24 PM (6Grqb)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 14, 2018 08:24 PM (xJa6I)
I seem to recall no Viking kneeled for the anthem. Do not know that for sure 100% but I do believe I read that somewhere.
I thought I did too.
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 08:25 PM (nisXv)
Bummed because I've decided to end my 9mm boycott and Ruger has this sweet 9mm carbine now too.
Speaking of boycotts, those who think there's still something to be had by boycotting NFL missed a great game between the Saints and Vikings. 4 lead changes in the last 5 minutes.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 14, 2018 08:26 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:20 PM (QDnY+)
Yep. Owner wants to move them there as well.
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 08:26 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:26 PM (KP5rU)
I have about 60-70, or did, before the boating incident
Posted by: retropox at January 14, 2018 08:26 PM (6Grqb)
Vikings win! Yaaay!!! Except they are now closer to losing Supe Number 5. My Vikes are cursed...but if my Astros can win, maybe I'm over-pessimistic this time.
Posted by: Gref at January 14, 2018 08:26 PM (AMIL/)
Completely agree about The High Road forum. I've been on it for years. I don't bother with the Legal subforum since I go to the site to get away from politics.
I probably spend more time on the Muzzleloading Forum.
Posted by: JTB at January 14, 2018 08:26 PM (V+03K)
Can never remember his name. He was the highest-drafted guy ever at his position the year he was drafted.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:27 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 14, 2018 08:27 PM (2DOZq)
Vikings are 100% clean on the anthem bullshit, and as a result they never lost attendance this year.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 14, 2018 08:27 PM (gm9yG)
Posted by: logprof at January 14, 2018 08:27 PM (2ZFNo)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 14, 2018 08:28 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: logprof at January 14, 2018 08:28 PM (2ZFNo)
Vikings are 100% clean on the anthem bullshit, and as a result they never lost attendance this year.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 14, 2018 08:27 PM (gm9yG)
Good for them. Fuck the NFL anyway though.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 08:28 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: t-bird at January 14, 2018 08:28 PM (cW490)
Be great to stay up for the ONT but.
Good night horde.
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 08:29 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 14, 2018 08:29 PM (/qEW2)
Completely agree about The High Road forum. I've been on it for years. I don't bother with the Legal subforum since I go to the site to get away from politics.
I probably spend more time on the Muzzleloading Forum.
Posted by: JTB at January 14, 2018 08:26 PM (V+03K)
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Agreed! And I didn't know the legal forum existed.
Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2018 08:30 PM (Sfs6o)
216 Early days of semi-auto pistols, in movies: See "Joe Kidd" (Mauser C96) and "The Wild Bunch" (Model of 1911).
Vikings win! Yaaay!!! Except they are now closer to losing Supe Number 5. My Vikes are cursed...but if my Astros can win, maybe I'm over-pessimistic this time.
Posted by: Gref at January 14, 2018 08:26 PM (AMIL/)
As a lifelong traumatized UGA college football fan literally bleeding red and black and an alum,, no you are not being over-pessimistic.
It ain't over until that confetti falls and the trophy is in your teams hands.
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 08:30 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Weasel at January 14, 2018 08:31 PM (Sfs6o)
Gridiron has too many stoppages. There's more action in a rugby match in half the running time. It won't gain a masee TV audience in Europe.
Jet lag would kill the London's team's performance, and affect those unlucky to have to play an away game there.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 08:31 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2018 08:31 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: oldgeezer at January 14, 2018 08:31 PM (4pPcl)
And CA morons can only be tortured by hearing about new Ruger handguns. Apart from single actions, none of them will be available here until/if the infamous "roster" idiocy is struck down.
retropox, you're the guy with the amazing 32 collection. I had/have an interest in the 32 mostly for revolvers. Always looking for a handgun the boss will "like", and 32 revolver seemed like a potentially good combo of size and recoil. Few choices around, however. At least new ones. Another attraction of 32 is the ability to use 3 calibers of ammo in it.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:32 PM (QDnY+)
An old Savage .32 is a possibility. Very Flash Gordonesque.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 14, 2018 08:32 PM (TKmA0)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:33 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2018 08:33 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: Agitator at January 14, 2018 08:34 PM (1BZDe)
Posted by: t-bird at January 14, 2018 08:34 PM (cW490)
I speak of Riverdale. Holy sit. What a dumb move to take the Archie characters and make every thing about them degenerate and try to brag about how Riverdale is literally changing from the 1950's to now. But everybody is fucked up because of it.
I love it.
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 08:34 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:26 PM (KP5rU)
He made it to the game after a week of hunting. Magnificent bastard.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 14, 2018 08:35 PM (bNbo2)
Hard to find any firearm class this cost effective.
Be sure to read their recommendations PDF.
If you want to listen to a podcast discussing prep for Appleseed, look up The Armed Squirrel Project, episode 54, and maybe 124. Episodes 7 & 8 is much of the stories you may hear.
Waiting for the Appleseed schedule to drop so I can sign up again!
Posted by: Decloaked lurker at January 14, 2018 08:35 PM (nZ9VF)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 14, 2018 08:35 PM (tr2D7)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:35 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:35 PM (KP5rU)
But I hope they bring their scuba gear.
Posted by: RI Red at January 14, 2018 08:36 PM (rQnkC)
I'm branching out into a very few .32S&W revolvers.
I have 2 S&W "safety hammerless", an mint Iver Johnson, and a nice Colt New Police. Looking for an early Colt Pocket Positive with the early high-polish finish. it will be from about 1900-1920. tough bird to find.
Posted by: retropox at January 14, 2018 08:37 PM (6Grqb)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 14, 2018 08:29 PM
Tell Watson to make sure he was packing his Army revolver.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 14, 2018 08:37 PM (agg2m)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at January 14, 2018 08:37 PM (TKmA0)
America was founded by the Vikings. Never Forget.
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 08:38 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:39 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 14, 2018 08:37 PM (agg2m)
That reminds me. I saw a commercial that had Watson in it sometime yesterday. The only thing I remember is it made me think of HAL9000 saying I'm afraid I can't do that Dave.
Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2018 08:40 PM (pvN1D)
Dartist - Your .32 Beretta is kind of rare - most were .380s. They are
great shooters - no reason not to shoot it. The Roman numerals on the
side tell you in what year of Mussolini's reign it was made. The gray
holster alone is worth a couple of hundred. If you have two magazines,
the holster and the blueing is decent - don't sell it cheap. Whoever you
take it to WILL try to low ball you - I promise. Do some research on
the internet because different models can be really rare in .32.
Thanks. It has a spoils of war note, signed by some Captain too. I'll be putting it up in my dad's foot locker, hopefully the kids will give a crap about it.
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 08:40 PM (nisXv)
Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at January 14, 2018 08:42 PM (56GKt)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:42 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:42 PM (QDnY+)
We have to support her. Like Rush's chaos plan.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 08:42 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: jsg at January 14, 2018 08:42 PM (pvN1D)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 14, 2018 08:35 PM (tr2D7)
Fairly heavy hammer, and good hardened punches with no flex work wonders. I used to use the punches with a taper, not the ones that are the same diameter for a few inches. To much flex in those style punches and the pins don't get shocked out of position. Once they budge you can switch to the pin punches.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 14, 2018 08:43 PM (nNPAz)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:44 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 14, 2018 08:44 PM (bNbo2)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:45 PM (KP5rU)
youtube.com/watch?v=lHomCiPFknY
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 14, 2018 08:45 PM (6FqZa)
Please. Please. Please! Just for the mascot alone. Add in no kneelers.
In the spirit of playing by the rules forced upon me.
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 08:46 PM (g4lFK)
Broke a punch last year (trying to get a pin to move on a surplus CZ-83). I believe you can fix ("dress") that, right?
Will do a web search.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:46 PM (QDnY+)
Just at the time I decided to buy a hangun, take lessons, and learn real marksmanship, cataracts set in. After the surgery, I have had endless problems. so... collecting is it for me.
Posted by: retropox at January 14, 2018 08:46 PM (6Grqb)
Best swearing in was by my brother, a Navy A7 Vigilante pilot, upon graduation from Army Rotary Wing flight school. Ft. Rucker, AL. Last century sometime.
Posted by: RI Red at January 14, 2018 08:47 PM (rQnkC)
Posted by: oldgeezer at January 14, 2018 08:47 PM (4pPcl)
dartist, speaking only as an outsider with obviously no knowledge of the
various wheels that might be turning, I'd say don't sell that thing.
Have it cleaned up/inspected. Shoot it. Get that bring-back document
into proper acid-free storage, too. That is outstanding history you've
got there.
Thanks, I appreciate your advice.
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 08:48 PM (nisXv)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:48 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:48 PM (KP5rU)
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Was the Somali policeman following "established procedures" when he killed the Australian woman? If "qualified immunity" doesn't even apply, can he be charged with murder?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 14, 2018 08:49 PM (/qEW2)
Ditto. I spent the whole time wondering what the hell happened to my state.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 14, 2018 08:49 PM (agg2m)
Posted by: Philadelphia Eagles at January 14, 2018 08:49 PM (vChNs)
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 08:30 PM (g4lFK)
Wasn't there a team that dropped the one of a kind crystal trophy right after it was given to them?
Posted by: Fox2! at January 14, 2018 08:49 PM (MHKOK)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 14, 2018 08:51 PM (vChNs)
Binoculars were what he chose to pick when the CO told the guys they could each take one item from a pile of new, unissued binoculars, microscopes, lab gear, etc. that was about to be bulldozed into a trench at his base in NC. Army medical branch.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:51 PM (QDnY+)
Shit, that's a real place? I had to clear that place out in the fallout 4 video game, it was full of super mutants. lol
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 14, 2018 08:52 PM (nNPAz)
Please. Please. Please! Just for the mascot alone. Add in no kneelers.
In the spirit of playing by the rules forced upon me.
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 08:46 PM (g4lFK)
NEVER
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2018 08:52 PM (3/sUh)
But it screams for a manslaughter charge.
Tricky thing is his partner, who's an obvious witness but conflicted.
Best defense could be to blame the MN police department for hiring him even though he had obvious issues.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 08:52 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: retropox at January 14, 2018 08:53 PM (6Grqb)
Posted by: Berserker
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Thanks Berserker - I'll give it a whack again tomorrow when I feel a bit better. Good tip on the punches - I was trying with the pin punches but I have the tapered ones as well.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 14, 2018 08:53 PM (tr2D7)
Shit, that's a real place? I had to clear that place out in the fallout 4 video game, it was full of super mutants. lol
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 14, 2018 08:52 PM (nNPAz)
Still is. It's in Massachusetts after all.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 08:54 PM (NWiLs)
git sum
Posted by: MAxIE at January 14, 2018 08:55 PM (9TR2V)
Ironically, picked as a mascot for the same reasons the Redskins picked theirs. As a symbol of bravery and warrior ethos.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 08:55 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:55 PM (KP5rU)
We have to support her. Like Rush's chaos plan.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 08:42 PM (pV/54)
Can I propose that we refer to that creature as "were-maggot Bradley Manning"? (alias "Chelsea")
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 14, 2018 08:55 PM (sD2WN)
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 08:30 PM (g4lFK)
Wasn't there a team that dropped the one of a kind crystal trophy right after it was given to them?
Posted by: Fox2! at January 14, 2018 08:49 PM (MHKOK)
Baka was most recent in 2012. Florida in 2008. Maybe Florida State in 2004
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/ 7821303/alabama-crimson-tide- crystal-bcs-trophy-shattered-mishap
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 08:56 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: MAxIE at January 14, 2018 08:56 PM (9TR2V)
Posted by: retropox at January 14, 2018 08:56 PM (6Grqb)
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 14, 2018 08:54 PM
Hey, it ain't my fault.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 14, 2018 08:57 PM (agg2m)
the thing is AWESOME
Posted by: MAxIE at January 14, 2018 08:57 PM (9TR2V)
Used to shoot Steel Madness up at Chino, until the organizer passed away.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 08:58 PM (QDnY+)
Ironically, picked as a mascot for the same reasons the Redskins picked theirs. As a symbol of bravery and warrior ethos.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 08:55 PM (pV/54)
I know. Notice the absence of icebacks and Scandis protesting to have it removed along with the SJW Marxist crowd.
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 08:59 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 14, 2018 08:59 PM (2DOZq)
--FSU did not win in 2004
Posted by: logprof at January 14, 2018 09:00 PM (2ZFNo)
I've considered getting a conversion (there's an outfit in Lousiana that does them) on a model whatever so that it's like the USMC "trench broom". I know there are Norinco knock-offs around, too.
Just to complete the set so I can do WWII 3-gun (have both flavors of M1, and a 1911).
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 09:00 PM (QDnY+)
We have to support her. Like Rush's chaos plan.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 08:42 PM (pV/54)
Can I propose that we refer to that creature as "were-maggot Bradley Manning"? (alias "Chelsea")
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 14, 2018 08:55 PM (sD2WN)
Very confusing about the entire D.
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 09:00 PM (g4lFK)
once, I love the movie but doubt it could be done with accuracy.
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:59 PM (aC6Sd)
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I did that in Vietnam with 2 AK47s at Hue City.
Posted by: Senator Richard Blumenthal at January 14, 2018 09:00 PM (y09j5)
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 09:00 PM (QDnY+)
--FSU did not win in 2004
Posted by: l
I skimmed the article. I think they broke one in 2004. I skimmed it very fast.
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 09:01 PM (g4lFK)
It shoots of course but why would I shoot it when I have so many others just like it minus the emotional connection?
Keep it and cherish it even if it means nothing to anyone else which it probably won't
f'em he was my father
Posted by: MAxIE at January 14, 2018 09:02 PM (9TR2V)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 14, 2018 09:02 PM (3BFzK)
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 09:01 PM (g4lFK)
--I'm not even sure if FSU even made a bowl game in 2004
Posted by: logprof at January 14, 2018 09:03 PM (2ZFNo)
Posted by: MAxIE at January 14, 2018 09:03 PM (9TR2V)
Posted by: Jolo at January 14, 2018 09:03 PM (y09j5)
once, I love the movie but doubt it could be done with accuracy.
Posted by: Skip at January 14, 2018 07:59 PM (aC6Sd)
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I did that in Vietnam with 2 AK47s at Hue City.
Posted by: Senator Richard Blumenthal at January 14, 2018 09:00 PM (y09j5)
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I shot 4 AK47s and two Colt .45s at once.
True story.
Posted by: Brian Williams at January 14, 2018 09:04 PM (3BFzK)
Posted by: logprof at January 14, 2018 09:05 PM (2ZFNo)
_____________________________________
Mary Tyler Moore's boss?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 14, 2018 09:05 PM (arhmY)
My father's WWII "bring-backs" (he never left CONUS) were a pair of
binoculars, basic web gear, pack, pup tent with stakes, canteen, and
eating utensils (still in the kitchen drawer).
I remember being kinda bummed that my dad only took this little Berretta and not a bunch of flashier stuff from the Germans. He said they let them take whatever they wanted, but they had to carry it. Now that I'm older, I realize that walking across Europe and back made those guys acutely aware of what they were hauling.
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 09:05 PM (nisXv)
Posted by: MAxIE at January 14, 2018 09:05 PM (9TR2V)
_____________________________________
Mary Tyler Moore's boss?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 14, 2018 09:05 PM (arhmY)
Blasphemer! Bud ain't no gawdamn commie.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 14, 2018 09:06 PM (bNbo2)
Friend's dad shot down an Me-109 from his tank in WWII, the swastika from the vertical stablizer was cut out with bayonets (very jagged edges), and was a play prop for us as kids (it was just stashed between studs in a typical SoCal unfinished garage. Friend still has it, keeps it carefully stored in ideal conditions. I'd like to go see it again some time.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 14, 2018 09:08 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 14, 2018 08:55 PM (sD2W
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Nope. We have standards.
Posted by: The Were-Maggot Anti-Defamation League at January 14, 2018 09:08 PM (c8EhQ)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 09:09 PM (KP5rU)
https://tinyurl.com/ydcmem5f
Posted by: Voter Dude at January 14, 2018 09:09 PM (U5Xeq)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 14, 2018 09:02 PM (3BFzK)
Untippable canoe
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2018 09:10 PM (3/sUh)
Welcome to the elements Minnesota Vikings
Posted by: Philadelphia Eagles at January 14, 2018 08:49 PM (vChNs)
Even the Packers did not want to play in Minnesota in December when the Vikings were an outside team.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Vikings don't Serf at January 14, 2018 09:10 PM (DxWUs)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 09:11 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 09:11 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 09:11 PM (pV/54)
Keith Ellison is a close second.
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 09:12 PM (g4lFK)
Captain too. I'll be putting it up in my dad's foot locker, hopefully
the kids will give a crap about it.
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 08:40 PM (nisXv)
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send in a request for his military records, then put it all together...
and if the kids aren't really interested, or history conscious, donate it to a museum that WILL preserve his history and the weapon with pride and respect.
we have two bring backs we have or are doing that with. haven't figured out who to donate them to yet, but we will. the Arisaka with the bullet strikes on the bayonet will likely go to the WW2 museum in Nawlins, if they will have it, but no luck on getting the history on that one: the store we found it at is run by assholes.
free advice, of course, and worth what you paid for it.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 14, 2018 09:13 PM (8CMuu)
Dream on
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2018 09:13 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 09:11 PM (pV/54)
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FTFY!
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 14, 2018 09:14 PM (8CMuu)
Traitor Bowe Bergdahl gonna run for Congress, too?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 14, 2018 09:14 PM (uvWRL)
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 09:11 PM (g4lFK)
Dunno about him, but it seems like the GOPers all get their balls snipped off after being elected.
Except for Donnie Two-scoops (who isn't really a GOPer).
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 14, 2018 09:15 PM (DNH+H)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 09:15 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Vikings don't Serf at January 14, 2018 09:10 PM (DxWU
Dream on
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2018 09:13 PM (3/sUh)
Green Bay may have hosted the coldest games, but the Vikings in the Met Stadium were the masters of cold weather football.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Vikings don't Serf at January 14, 2018 09:16 PM (DxWUs)
The Faces of the Alt-Left Fake News Democrat Party:
-- Mexican Murderer of Kate Steinle
-- Bowe Bergdahl
-- Bradley Manning
-- Harvey Weinstein
-- Al Franken
-- Peter Strozk & his mistress
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 14, 2018 09:16 PM (uvWRL)
from the vertical stablizer was cut out with bayonets (very jagged
edges), and was a play prop for us as kids (it was just stashed between
studs in a typical SoCal unfinished garage. Friend still has it, keeps
it carefully stored in ideal conditions. I'd like to go see it again
some time.
WWII guys are going fast now. None left in my family, though I have one tough aunt that played baseball during the war and volunteered at Hines V. A. She ripped thru that place when I had a heart attack about 5 years ago. Everyone yes Ma'am ed her, lol.
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 09:17 PM (nisXv)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 09:17 PM (KP5rU)
No, then he'd be a Republican.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 14, 2018 09:17 PM (6FqZa)
Yeah all the MN Lombardi Trophies prove me wrong
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2018 09:17 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 09:18 PM (g4lFK)
What's up with the Viking hate MisHum?
Fran Tarkenton borrowed money from him and never paid him back.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 14, 2018 09:20 PM (uvWRL)
So the projections show the Republicans losing the House.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 14, 2018 09:20 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 09:21 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 14, 2018 09:21 PM (8CMuu)
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 09:18 PM (g4lFK)
MisHum is a Packers fan. Hatred of the Vikings is required.
Posted by: Vendette at January 14, 2018 09:21 PM (4JWOd)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 14, 2018 09:21 PM (oVJmc)
(OK, I never watched it much to begin with, but still.)
Posted by: rickl at January 14, 2018 09:22 PM (sdi6R)
Raised 30 miles from GB. Season ticket holder & stock owner.
Go Eagles
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2018 09:22 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 14, 2018 09:23 PM (uvWRL)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2018 09:23 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 14, 2018 09:21 PM (oVJmc)
That is my very favorite MST3K.
Posted by: rickl at January 14, 2018 09:23 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Eromero at January 14, 2018 09:23 PM (zLDYs)
255 246; Red, I have enough problems, I see no need to get on their list. Like they say, never enough ammo.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 08:42 PM (KP5rU)
I figure that between being a vet, commenting at the HQ, handgun registrations when I lived in CA and my TX LTC, I'm on lots of lists and there's no way in hell that I'm getting off 'em.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 14, 2018 09:24 PM (eXA4G)
Turnout is key, agreed. I wouldn't believe polls this far out. FFS, the polls were totally wrong about turnout in 2016, which is why they were off.
And it matters district by district. The Ds can get 70% of the vote in Deep Blue places and still lose overall
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 14, 2018 09:24 PM (pV/54)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 14, 2018 09:26 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 09:26 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 09:26 PM (nisXv)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CA2FQ4hGLAk
Posted by: Rotisserie Chicken at January 14, 2018 09:26 PM (g4lFK)
i feel like people of yesteryear woulda done the 2+2 no problem
today if you don't write gun on it people is all
golly be what what what i don't get it
Posted by: happyfeet at January 14, 2018 09:27 PM (mLfQi)
MST3K showing 'The Starfighters.'
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
Bob Dornan and the fabulous poopy suit.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 14, 2018 09:28 PM (IqV8l)
Raised 30 miles from GB. Season ticket holder & stock owner.
Go Eagles
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2018 09:22 PM (3/sUh)
You make a solid argument for your case
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 09:28 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 14, 2018 09:29 PM (/o9Qk)
What if it was a gay bar called the Love Gun? That would be awkward.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 14, 2018 09:29 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 09:29 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 14, 2018 09:30 PM (/o9Qk)
Does anybody find the DNA commercial with the guy talking about how he originally thought he was German irritating?
The guy goes on about taking German dance classes, wearing liederhosen, blah blah blah, and then finding out he is 52% Scottish. Now he is wearing a kilt.
How about being an American, instead of a dipshit?
Very subtle SJW/ethnic balkanization BS going on right there.
/rant off.
Back to watching Columbo give the shaft to Patrick McGoohan on a 1990s episode. And get off my lawn.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 14, 2018 09:31 PM (8iiMU)
Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at January 14, 2018 09:31 PM (sRycn)
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 09:31 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 09:32 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 14, 2018 09:21 PM (oVJmc)
It's not much more than stock footage of old jets. Which is awesome, since I love old jets.
Posted by: josephistan at January 14, 2018 09:34 PM (ANIFC)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 14, 2018 09:34 PM (wdmm9)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2018 09:17 PM (3/sUh)
ToucheBut at least the Vikings competed for 4 of them in the 70's, back when the Packers finished playing meaningful games in November.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Vikings don't Serf at January 14, 2018 09:34 PM (DxWUs)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 14, 2018 09:35 PM (WbIyz)
Also, I expect nothing from the Eagles. Therefore, they never disappoint me.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm)
Take it easy
Posted by: The Eagles at January 14, 2018 09:35 PM (IqV8l)
I don't like the cold either. I think we're going to have a cold one this year in the mid west. Maybe it will kill off...oh never mind.
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 09:38 PM (nisXv)
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Vikings don't Serf at January 14, 2018 09:39 PM (DxWUs)
also, i live as close to green bay as mishum.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 09:39 PM (KP5rU)
I remember the first time I saw the A-10. We ran a RBS site outside of Rammstein AB in the late 70's. If it was a clear day and the site wasn't busy, we'd ask the pilots for a "bubble check" after their bomb/ECM run. It was such an incredible sight to see the A-10 scream over the top of the radar vans about 100 feet over our heads as we stood on top of the vans. Of course, we saw a lot of the older planes come over on bubble checks, too. F-4 Phantoms, F-111's, some of the first F-15's and even the Germans, who were still flying the F-104 Starfighter, aptly named the Widow Maker.
Posted by: Traveling Man at January 14, 2018 09:41 PM (R5lpX)
Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 14, 2018 09:42 PM (5ng19)
Posted by: Jolo at January 14, 2018 09:03 PM (y09j5)
I picked up a Boker Urban Trapper knife. That is a sweet little pocket knife with the carbon fiber scales and the diamond blade profile. Beautiful and well balanced flip open action too, and the hilt is just the right size to cuddle into my palm and be controlled against the heel of my palm.
However, I think I hear people criticizing it because it doesn't have a finger guard
Posted by: Kindltot at January 14, 2018 09:42 PM (2K6fY)
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 09:42 PM (nisXv)
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 09:42 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at January 14, 2018 09:42 PM (sRycn)
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Last night I had dinner on a restaurant patio outside in 78 degree weather. SoCal is a political sh*thole but you sure can't beat the weather.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2018 09:44 PM (c8EhQ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 14, 2018 09:35 PM (WbIyz)
I watched the whole video, Grumpy. Presenter is very enthusiastic. Seems like it would be a natural for hunting hobos. I guess the big drawback in my mind is limited capacity. You get ten shots off the air in the built-in tank, then have to top up. So your max pressure is 3000 psi, and the reservoir is effectively depleted at what, 2000 psi, or 1000? Same deal with the air tank that charges it. Every time you charge the rifle, you draw down the tank a little, so each air charge has a little less zip on shot #1, and a little leas on each one thereafter. Wonder if you could run it on CO2, which is stored as a liquid under pressure?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 14, 2018 09:45 PM (sD2WN)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 09:45 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 14, 2018 09:46 PM (QCX64)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 14, 2018 09:46 PM (/qEW2)
Ace and the Cobs are great. I'd be dead in a ditch without this place to talk and bant and laugh and learn to be honest.
Thanks Day that ends in Y! Hope you are happy and well! Cheers!
Posted by: Monk at January 14, 2018 09:49 PM (g4lFK)
FIBs are coming brother.
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 09:42 PM (nisXv)
FISHY FIBS
Love ya dartist
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 14, 2018 09:49 PM (3/sUh)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 09:45 PM (KP5rU)
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Heh.
Moo moo wouldn't be seen at a table with rabble like me.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 14, 2018 09:51 PM (c8EhQ)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 14, 2018 09:52 PM (/o9Qk)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 14, 2018 09:52 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: dartist at January 14, 2018 09:53 PM (nisXv)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 14, 2018 09:54 PM (cu8/f)
Posted by: NZ at January 14, 2018 10:05 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 14, 2018 10:15 PM (8CMuu)
7-11 robbery in New Jersey doesn't go as planned thanks to a BAMF security guard
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at January 14, 2018 10:19 PM (N5dam)
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at January 14, 2018 10:19 PM (bgJ0E)
i'd have to see what the local ranges are like, unless you want to make the trek to The Valley.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 14, 2018 10:31 PM (8CMuu)
Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at January 14, 2018 11:46 PM (xzvHg)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 14, 2018 11:56 PM (8CMuu)
It is the uber-Leftist press here, run by the sickest of Leftist Dems, who dominate the messaging. It is like 1967 Pravda, combined with a healthy dose of shaming if you dare raise a question
The REAL problem is the crooked voter rolls in Washington State, caused and supported by the Left and their Motor Voter law passed here in 1994.
They will let any human being self-register, and send them a voter card without any followup or validation.
I saw it for myself a couple of years ago with my own eyes. I let may driver's license almost lapse, found myself in a different city than where I lived, and went into a DL office in an area that had a high immigrant population for decades. I took my number and it was over 40 that who was being helped, so I sat back and observed.
I saw Mexican national after Mexican national, interspersed with an occasional Guatemalan or El Salvadoran, in very broken English (one could not speak a word of English and his daughter translated) turn in their national driver's license, take the eye test (blind people pass this test), and asked "Do you want to be automatically registered to vote? Just fill out this card and check the box saying you can vote".
THAT WAS IT!!
When my turn to renew was called, I asked the clerk if he thought those Mexis and Guats were citizens. (Somewhere in this piece of paper called "The Constitution", it claims only citizens can vote)
He nodded to me before I finished my sentence and just said, "I know, we are required to give everyone a card if they wish, and not ask any other questions."
"Who checks them for actually being a citizen?"
"I have been working here over a decade, and I have never heard of one being checked. Never. And I asked, until I was told to shut up if I wanted to keep my job."
Get rid of crooked state voting rolls, every state with a Motor Voter law has signed up illegals to vote and every Democrat state closes their eyes to this corruption.
Washington State will take away our lawfully owned guns because the Left has corrupted the voter rolls beyond recognition. Period.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 15, 2018 01:12 AM (UsCnO)
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