Saturday Evening Movie Thread 01-13-2018 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

What did you say?

I think that by this point you all know my tastes relatively well. At least, you know them well enough to know that I'll watch pretty much anything that calls itself a movie. I'll see the most recent Marvel movie, and I'll seek out some of the most obscure films put out by the French New Wave. Hell, I've even seen the Twilight movies (how movies that are, quite literally, boring could reach such a phenomenon status, I'll never really know). I think I've drawn the line at Fifty Shades of Grey, though.

That being said, while I'll watch almost anything, I don't know every language of every film I've seen, so I have to rely on translations in order to understand dialogue, like everyone else. There are two types of translation to be had in movies: dubbing and subtitles.

I've thought about this (surprise), and really, the acceptance of one over the other is no more than a matter of taste. Neither is ideal (that would be knowing the language), but when dialogue is essential to understanding the events and characters of a film, just listening to the original dialogue isn't going to make things easy.

Subtitles

Subtitles are my preferred way of watching films in a foreign language, and I think it's mostly because that's just how I first started watching foreign films. When my mother borrowed The Seventh Seal for me from the library, it was Max Von Sydow's deep Swedish voice I heard. I didn't hear some American's voice. There wasn't even an option on that VHS. It was subtitles or I turned off the movie.

However, I think there's more to it than that. There are tradeoffs with either method, and I really do think that I prefer the balance of pros and cons from subtitles over those of dubbing.

The biggest pro in my mind is that you do actually hear the original actors' voices. A lot of a performance resides in the voice, and replacing that with someone else who wasn't on set doing the same things creates a certain disconnect in my mind.

The largest con is that your eyes are constantly darting around the screen. I'm a pretty fast reader, so I tend to finish reading an individual subtitle about halfway through an average sentence, so my eyes go down from the actor's face to the subtitles, scan the subtitles, and then shoot back up to the actor's face. That constant back and forth misses a lot of the physical performance from the actor.

There are some other cons that people often make hay of in regards to subtitles, but they are generally in response to poorly placed and colored subtitles. If you have a stark black and white film and your subtitles are white without even a black outline, they're going to get very hard to read. That problem can continue to persist today, but most streaming services allow you to modify color, position, and size of subtitles.

So, I like to hear the actor's voices and my eyes don't mind darting around the screen that much. Your mileage may vary.

Side note: I really enjoy watching Swedish films for one reason in particular: After a while, Swedish sounds like some kind of Old English and I begin to believe that I could actually understand the dialogue without subtitles.

Dubbing

Dubbing is where a mother tongue speaker is brought in to speak the dialogue in another language in place of the original. If you think you've never seen a dubbed movie, I can almost assure you that you're wrong. Ever seen any of the Man with No Name trilogy (A Fistful of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly)? Yes? Then you've seen a dubbed film.

Quick, tiny little history lesson: Post-war Italy was even more dirt poor than pre-war Italy. They were so dirt poor that it affected how they could make movies. They never recorded sound while they filmed for several decades. Federico Fellini actually used that as an advantage and played music while he filmed. The effect is most pronounced in 8 1/2 where it looks like Marcello Mastroianni is dancing through scenes. That technique (the lack of sound, not necessarily the music while filming) was in place when Sergio Leone made his Spaghetti Westerns. In fact, there were often scenes where actors interacted with each other with one speaking one language and the other speaking another, each having no idea what the other was saying (to a degree…they did have scripts). So, you could have Clint, speaking English, talking to an innkeeper who was speaking Italian while the wife in the background could only speak Spanish.

Anyway…my problems with dubbing really amount to the disconnect I see when I watch the lips of the actor refuse to match the sounds that are supposedly coming out of his mouth. That phenomenon takes me out of the movie pretty consistently. I think it's just inherently funny, and that can be very distracting especially during scenes that don't call for comedy.

However, as with subtitles, it's a tradeoff. What dubbing lacks, it also has some advantages. You can watch the actor as you can with an English language film. You can see the expressions they make without the distraction of looking down to the subtitles. You also never have to worry about unreadable subtitles (although there is danger of a mouth moving and no sound coming out).

An Exception

There is a type of movie where my preference flips completely: animated movies.

I've heard and read people arguing that Miyazaki's movies must be seen with the original voice acting, but I disagree. Voice acting in animation is a form of dubbing to begin with, and Japanese animated films tend to have a stiffness in the mouth movements that don't really lend themselves to precision in recreating how a mouth would look while forming different sounds. So, to me the English voice actors tend to say things that look as convincing coming out of the mouths of these animated characters as Japanese voice actors.

The actors' performances in animated movies is purely done in their voices, so there's no preservation of the original actor's intent or performance. Visually, the performances are created with the animators, so the disconnect between an original voice actor and a new voice actor is, in my mind, much smaller in an animated film than in a live action one.

In Conclusion

As I said, this is really just a matter of taste. Neither option is perfect and there are tradeoffs either way.

The HQ's Vote

As promised, below are the top six nominated movies released in 2017 as voted on by you. Now is the time to vote.

Best Movie wins the Platinum Membership package to the HQ (including ampersands!).

Ace of Spades HQ
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Thank you to everyone for contributing. Now vote your little hearts out.

Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
Paddington 2
The Commuter

Next in my Netflix Queue:
Fiddler on the Roof

Movies I Saw This Week:
The Big Sick (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) Poster blurb: "Funny and heartwarming story of an almost missed love." [Amazon Instant]
Hairspray (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1.5/4) "Disjointed, takes itself way too seriously, and loses any ability to tell what story it's trying to tell after about half an hour." [Netflix DVD]
Mad Max: Fury Road (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] "Pure adrenaline fueled thrill ride made by a man who's old enough to be in a nursing home." [Personal Collection]
The Mummy (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) [Rewatch] "Shall we stand up and cheer for a movie that aims just to be fun and actually succeeds at it? Yes, I think that we shall." [Personal Collection]
Hell in the Pacific (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) "A good little movie driven by masculinity that comes to a laughable (and producer created) end." ["Library"]

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1 Whoops. That AoSHQ poll, which looked OK in preview, is broken, and I have no idea how to fix it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 13, 2018 06:43 PM (zY7k3)

2 OK, now it works. I had to permit embed.ly on this page.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 13, 2018 06:44 PM (zY7k3)

3 I used to watch a lot of movies with subtitles back in the day when I was addicted going to two or three movies a week.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 06:46 PM (nBr1j)

4 Wife and I watched The Foreigner on Netflx last night. This is a Jackie Chan movie that is actually a serious political thriller, not his usual goofball character and outrageously silly fight scenes. Well worth the 2 hours time investment.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at January 13, 2018 06:46 PM (zY7k3)

5 I enjoy the movie thread. And now with the NFL out of my life, I have time to read the content.

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 06:47 PM (2sCft)

6 I once watched The Passion of the Christ without the subtitles turned on. it was interesting, and I found myself totally immersed. Knowing the Story certainly helps, but I totally lost myself in the moment.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 13, 2018 06:48 PM (bNbo2)

7 The biggest pro in my mind is that you do actually hear the original actors' voices.

Yeah, that's my preference, too.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 13, 2018 06:48 PM (oVJmc)

8 France is a shithole.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 13, 2018 06:49 PM (NWiLs)

9 Best movie with sub titles?

Apocalypto

Maybe Das Boot

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 06:49 PM (2DOZq)

10 Your move.

Posted by: Death at January 13, 2018 06:49 PM (c8EhQ)

11 I haven't seen any of the movies on that list.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 13, 2018 06:50 PM (NWiLs)

12 I said, YOUR MOVE, Blondie.

Posted by: Death at January 13, 2018 06:51 PM (c8EhQ)

13 I dont think comedies work well with subtitles.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 06:51 PM (2DOZq)

14 Best movie with sub titles?

Apocalypto

Maybe Das Boot

Seventh Seal

Seven Samurai

Kung Fu Hustle

the Jive scene from Airplane!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 13, 2018 06:51 PM (oVJmc)

15 I watch a lot of stuff on youtube with subtitles enabled. They are usually generated by a robot and at times the robot makes some comical errors.
Today I watched a show in which the narrator said a person was "flayed alive" and it came out as "really delighted".

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 13, 2018 06:52 PM (w7KSn)

16 I saw only one of the movies listed. But the others are definitely nothing I would want to see, so I am confident in my choice.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 13, 2018 06:52 PM (bNbo2)

17 I prefer subtitles over dubbing. For whatever reason, the disconnect between the mouth moving and the words being said throws me off kilter and I have a tougher time really getting into the film.

Unless we're talking the original Iron Chef or MXC. Which aren't movies, so I guess they don't count anyway.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 13, 2018 06:53 PM (/o9Qk)

18 Not a film but I just saw the Capital One Mona Lisa ad for the first time. Hilarious ending.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 13, 2018 06:53 PM (QCX64)

19 I like the dubbing in the Kung Fu movies.

When Ching Chow Choo stops talking but the sound is still coming out......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 13, 2018 06:53 PM (EoRCO)

20

How about: Best Movies Set In Shitholes?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 13, 2018 06:54 PM (H4P6e)

21 20

How about: Best Movies Set In Shitholes?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 13, 2018 06:54 PM (H4P6e)

Slum Dog Millionaire

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 06:55 PM (2DOZq)

22 I'm hearing impaired since birth so I use close caption on my Samsung TV.

Posted by: dantesed at January 13, 2018 06:55 PM (88xKn)

23 Ken Loach's 'My Name Is Joe' is in English but subtitled. The Scottish accents were too thick to understand.

Posted by: Jean Shallot at January 13, 2018 06:55 PM (EnBJN)

24 20

How about: Best Movies Set In Shitholes?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 13, 2018 06:54 PM (H4P6e)

++++

Black Hawk Down would have to be on that list.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 13, 2018 06:56 PM (FUu/Z)

25 How about: Best Movies Set In Shitholes?

Boogie Nights

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 13, 2018 06:56 PM (bNbo2)

26 How about: Best Movies Set In Shitholes?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 13, 2018 06:54 PM (H4P6e)

Lion

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 13, 2018 06:56 PM (/o9Qk)

27 The King of Hearts 1966.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at January 13, 2018 06:56 PM (rdl6o)

28 How about: Best Movies Set In Shitholes?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 13, 2018 06:54 PM (H4P6e)

"Roger and Me".......Flint, Michigan.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 13, 2018 06:56 PM (EoRCO)

29 How about: Best Movies Set In Shitholes?

The Wizard of Oz.

Filthy, disgusting munchkins.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 13, 2018 06:58 PM (c8EhQ)

30 Mononoke Hime - The Monster Princess! A great movie that me an the kids watch first in Japanese with subtitles and then the English version. So many movies have stolen snippets from this masterpiece. If you haven't seen it you should.

Posted by: desicat at January 13, 2018 06:58 PM (2pjNm)

31 France is a shithole.

LOL!! I agree!

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 13, 2018 06:59 PM (dUJdY)

32 How about: Best Movies Set In Shitholes?

Taxi Driver

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at January 13, 2018 06:59 PM (rdl6o)

33 There is a scene in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly in which the delicious Claudia Cardinale is disgustec with someone (Jason Robards?) and hurls a verbal punch at him. The lips don't match well and takes me out of the moment. That is probably my least favorite dubbed scene.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 06:59 PM (+y/Ru)

34 I'm glad you liked Fury Road, OM. I had heard so many bad things about it being a feminist movie that I almost didn't go. But it was really great on the big screen.

There is on particular foreign film that I tell my friends they MUST watch with subtitles: Babette's Feast. The dubbed version doesn't have the passion of the original.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 13, 2018 06:59 PM (G8B7r)

35 I voted for Baby Hour and Darkest Driver.

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:00 PM (lwiT4)

36 Looking things up is cheating, so I'm just going bareback here...

The Man With No Name trilogy were filmed in Spain, not Italy.

That refutes your entire argument.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 13, 2018 07:00 PM (fuK7c)

37 Only seen John Wick:2 but I voted for Gary Oldman because he deserves some serious love for his entire career.

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:00 PM (g4lFK)

38
Worst subtitles choice I ever saw was I think the original VHS release of Stalingrad. Most of the movie was set in snowscapes. The text employed? White. Most of the dialogue was unreadable. The dvd version changed it to yellow, I think.

Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 07:01 PM (qGuLD)

39 33 There is a scene in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly in which the delicious Claudia Cardinale is disgustec with someone (Jason Robards?) and hurls a verbal punch at him. The lips don't match well and takes me out of the moment. That is probably my least favorite dubbed scene.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 06:59 PM (+y/Ru)

++++

You mean Once Upon a Time In the West?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 13, 2018 07:02 PM (pvjTE)

40 I'm hearing impaired since birth so I use close caption on my Samsung TV.

Posted by: dantesed at January 13, 2018 06:55 PM (88xKn)
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I like using the close captioning too. Sometimes I don't catch everything ear-wise.

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:02 PM (lwiT4)

41
The Mummy (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) [Rewatch] "Shall we stand up and cheer for a movie that aims just to be fun and actually succeeds at it? Yes, I think that we shall."

Fun? I don't remember Boris Karloff being fun

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2018 07:02 PM (SiINZ)

42 the last movie I watched with sub-titles was Downfall

after a few minutes it just becomes sub-consconious

the way they did the sub-titles in John Wick was annoying

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 13, 2018 07:02 PM (KCxzN)

43 There is a scene in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly in which the delicious Claudia Cardinale is disgustec with someone (Jason Robards?)

What the fuck are you talking about?

Posted by: Once Upon a Time in the West at January 13, 2018 07:03 PM (fuK7c)

44 Best movie made in a shithole: Apocalypse Now.

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:03 PM (g4lFK)

45 Well against all advice from my mother and husband I am going to a movie tomorrow. I know.. flu is rampant I should not be out around people but my daughter loved it and wants to see it again and I am a big Del Toro fan. Seeing The Shape of Water.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 13, 2018 07:03 PM (dUJdY)

46 The Passion of Christ

Posted by: Concerned People's Front Splitter Chapter at January 13, 2018 07:03 PM (rdl6o)

47 Shithole movies

Year of Living Dangerously

Kite Runner ( I thought a very good movie)

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:04 PM (2DOZq)

48 Side note: I really enjoy watching Swedish films for one reason in
particular: After a while, Swedish sounds like some kind of Old English
and I begin to believe that I could actually understand the dialogue
without subtitles.
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Swedish is a pleasant little language.

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:04 PM (lwiT4)

49 Ken Loach's 'My Name Is Joe' is in English but subtitled. The Scottish accents were too thick to understand.

Posted by: Jean Shallot at January 13, 2018 06:55 PM

I had to turn on the CC to get through Boondock Saints

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 13, 2018 07:04 PM (KCxzN)

50 Hey grammie I wanted to tell you on the pet thread but you have to wait a certain amount of time before you can post a review. I think it will tell you but I'm not sure since I never left a review of myself, lol!

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 13, 2018 07:05 PM (dUJdY)

51
Coppola is releasing an "Apocalypse, Now" video game. The trailer looks impressive.

Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 07:05 PM (qGuLD)

52 I watch a lot of stuff on youtube with subtitles enabled. They are usually generated by a robot and at times the robot makes some comical errors.
Today I watched a show in which the narrator said a person was "flayed alive" and it came out as "really delighted".

-
I watched a Perry Mason today with subtitles which rendered the word "tycoon" as "ty****" for fear of offending .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 07:05 PM (+y/Ru)

53 Just saw an ad for 12 Strong (aka Horse Soldiers). Hope the movie is a good as the book was. Looks like a solid cast, at least.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 13, 2018 07:05 PM (bNbo2)

54 Those racists at Netflix won't dub Narcos for those of us who have zero ear and talent for hearing and speaking foreign languages. They are really sticking it to the gringos goods pulling that bush league shit.

Dubbing FTW!

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:05 PM (g4lFK)

55 John Wick 2 is comparable to Godfather III as sequels go IMO.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:06 PM (2DOZq)

56 I saw Das Boot in the theater in German with subtitles. It's really the only way to see it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 13, 2018 07:06 PM (WbIyz)

57 36 Looking things up is cheating, so I'm just going bareback here...

The Man With No Name trilogy were filmed in Spain, not Italy.

That refutes your entire argument.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 13, 2018 07:00 PM (fuK7c)

++++

They were filmed in both Italy and Spain. The sweeping landscapes were shot in Spain, but the studio stuff was shot in a studio in Italy.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 13, 2018 07:06 PM (pvjTE)

58 Best movie I saw last year was the Japanese animation, Your Name.

It was so good, I forgot I was reading subtitles. Really good.
Then I saw the ads for the dvd release this fall, with the dubbed voices. Brutal!

So that would be an exception to your animation in dubbing rule.

I was in university in Germany in 1991. A new release of Colombo was out, and they were raving about the work of the German voice actor who dubbed Peter Falk. Close, but no cigar.

And watching Top Gun was hilarious. Dubbed but back to Tom Cruise's voice when he sang Loving Feeling.

Posted by: Asko at January 13, 2018 07:06 PM (TZtdT)

59 I generally agree with TJM. However, the Godzilla and other kaiju movies are much better when dubbed. They're not works of art.

One movie that is worlds better subtitled is "Das Boot".

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 13, 2018 07:06 PM (T71PA)

60
I watch with the subtitles so I can hear the language being spoken. Maybe even try to pick up on and learn some of the words.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2018 07:07 PM (SiINZ)

61 Wait, wait, wait. Somebody was looking at Claudia Cardinale's lips? I find that hard to believe.
FWIW I often have closed captions on while watching something on Netflix.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 07:07 PM (nBr1j)

62 you have to wait a certain amount of time before you
can post a review. I think it will tell you but I'm not sure since I
never left a review of myself, lol!

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 13, 2018 07:05 PM (dUJdY)
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Oh - good to know! I have the packing slip right next to my laptop so I don't forget. I'm wearing the cross necklace with earrings tomorrow to church. They're just right.

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:07 PM (lwiT4)

63 51
Coppola is releasing an "Apocalypse, Now" video game. The trailer looks impressive.
Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 07:05 PM (qGuLD)

Genius idea. I bet it will be mind blowing and make yuge sales.

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:07 PM (g4lFK)

64 I don't mind subtitles with Kurosawa flicks. Throne of Blood and Ran are fantastic and the subtitles don't detract.

When it comes to dubbed, your right about the Leone flicks you mentioned. Though not a movie, Cowboy Beebop is dubbed and its still a great anime. Still watch it quite a bit.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2018 07:08 PM (peJQi)

65 There is a scene in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly in which the delicious Claudia Cardinale is disgustec with someone (Jason Robards?)

What the fuck are you talking about?
Posted by: Once Upon a Time in the West

Well, I was suffering from PTSD from the bad dubbing and it affected my memory.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 07:08 PM (+y/Ru)

66
The biggest pro in my mind is that you do actually hear the original actors' voices. A lot of a performance resides in the voice, and replacing that with someone else who wasn't on set doing the same things creates a certain disconnect in my mind.

Of course, a LOT of movies have the dialog added post-production, by the original actors. Not quite the same thing, but the ability to remember one's on-set performance and duplicate the vocal timing and inflections to match the visual is an essential element of the film actor's job.

Another aside is when the actor can't speak. Jack Hawkins had his larynx removed in 1966 due to throat cancer. Every movie he made afterwards was dubbed by either Robert Rietti or Charles Gray.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 13, 2018 07:08 PM (eXA4G)

67 fwiw - i watch a lot of anime - Japanese - i only watch w subs. the english voices all sound the same - must be just a few of them in the biz - and they EXAGGERATE the expression...aargh! i know a little Japanese, so some
subtleties are lost in the dub - my opinion, and Asuka's name is Soryou, not Shikinami!!

Posted by: geezer der mensch at January 13, 2018 07:09 PM (Ng5NT)

68 John Wick 2 is comparable to Godfather III as sequels go IMO.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:06 PM (2DOZq)

Oh boy.......

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:09 PM (g4lFK)

69 Coppola is releasing an "Apocalypse, Now" video game. The trailer looks impressive.

Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 07:05 PM (qGuLD)

Can you play as Col. Kilgore and go kicking ass through the game?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2018 07:10 PM (SiINZ)

70 I was in university in Germany in 1991...

And watching Top Gun was hilarious. Dubbed but back to Tom Cruise's voice when he sang Loving Feeling.

I was in Germany for Terminator 2. Having someone dub Ahnold *into* German was just weird.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 13, 2018 07:10 PM (fuK7c)

71 33 There is a scene in Once Upon a Time in the West in which the delicious Claudia Cardinale is disgustec with someone (Jason Robards?) and hurls a verbal punch at him. The lips don't match well and takes me out of the moment. That is probably my least favorite dubbed scene.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel

fixed for you

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2018 07:10 PM (peJQi)

72 Oh - good to know! I have the packing slip right next to my laptop so I don't forget. I'm wearing the cross necklace with earrings tomorrow to church. They're just right.

Awesome! Yeah.. I think a few more days. I'm not sure why Etsy makes you wait but whatever... reviews are very helpful. I know I read them most of the time before I purchase something. I actually made myself that same set and wore it to a wedding with an off the shoulder black blouse and white skirt. It went really well with it. I thought it was so pretty I made a set for the shop. Glad you will enjoy it

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 13, 2018 07:10 PM (dUJdY)

73
Jack Reacher II was a big disappointment.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 13, 2018 07:10 PM (H4P6e)

74 The reason a large segment of anime viewers prefer subs is that Japanese voice actors tend to be far more skilled than their counterparts. It's changed a bit over the years, but it's very obvious that there is a large professional industry in Japan, and mostly bottom dollar voice work elsewhere. Barring a few exceptions, good talent can be hard to find unless you have the money to attract professional movie actors, and for most foreign distributions that is out of the question.

The writing for english dubs can also get quite bad. Sometimes you'll see literal translations of puns, references to what was a current western political topic, confusion over slang or honorifics or cultural references. Just recently there was some controversy over certain english distributers completely changing dialogue to push feminist messaging and include quips about gamergate. In one case even flipping the original dialogue to the complete opposite meaning of what was said.

Studio Ghibli avoided a lot of the problems because they had a more professional distribution done by Disney, but that is very much the exception for western releases rather than the rule.

Posted by: Sjg at January 13, 2018 07:11 PM (gDSJf)

75 Genius idea. I bet it will be mind blowing and make yuge sales.

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:07 PM

It looks like the movie and has all the original actors and voices, Sheen, Brando, Hopper, Duvall, Forrest, Fishburne, Ford etc. It was shown to me and I thought "It must be costing then squillions in licencing to use all of this." Then I heard it was Coppola himself.

Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 07:11 PM (qGuLD)

76 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 13, 2018 07:08 PM (eXA4G)

He made all of his good movies before 1966.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:11 PM (2DOZq)

77 That refutes your entire argument.
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Che?

Posted by: paolo not discussing seduction for a change at January 13, 2018 07:11 PM (QCX64)

78 Unless we're talking the original Iron Chef or MXC. Which aren't movies, so I guess they don't count anyway.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 13, 2018 06:53 PM (/o9Qk)

I think bad dubbing only adds to the experience when it comes to the cheesier Japanese stuff.
What's Up Tiger Lilly, which honestly is my favorite Woody Allen movies, had ridiculous English lines dubbed in.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 07:12 PM (nBr1j)

79 Getting deaf in old age . Subtitles let me follow the dialogue without the sound cranked to 80. There are also some real mushmouths in some of the stuff I watch. Brits mostly.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 13, 2018 07:12 PM (2HZ4X)

80 Best movie filmed in a shithole:

La Femme Nikita.

Posted by: Blake at January 13, 2018 07:13 PM (WEBkv)

81 I will Jewells! The church I go to now is much more traditional when it comes to dress. I used to go in jeans and flip-flops to my old happy fun church, but here I have to look like I have an outfit on. So these are great!

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:13 PM (lwiT4)

82 Can you play as Col. Kilgore and go kicking ass through the game?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2018 07:10 PM

At least the helicopter assault, I think.

Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 07:13 PM (qGuLD)

83 Best movie filmed in a shithole:

Robocop

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2018 07:14 PM (peJQi)

84 Brad Pitt did a good job of intentionally being unintelligible in his role in Snatch.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:14 PM (2DOZq)

85 Worst subtitles choice I ever saw was I think the original VHS release of Stalingrad. Most of the movie was set in snowscapes. The text employed? White. Most of the dialogue was unreadable.

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Eh, Germans are only "Your papers, please" and "Ve haff vays of makink you talk" anyway.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 07:14 PM (+y/Ru)

86 "

There is a type of movie where my preference flips completely: animated movies.
I've heard and read people arguing that Miyazaki's movies must be seen with the original voice acting, but I disagree."

Man, we couldn't be out of alignment on this. All Japanese anime *must* be watched in the original language. Dubbing sucks.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 07:15 PM (w+Jhj)

87 Blazing Shitholes

Posted by: jsg at January 13, 2018 07:15 PM (ioQ79)

88 Best movie filmed in a shithole:

Last Tango in Paris.

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:15 PM (2sCft)

89 couldn't be *more* out of alignment, I mean.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 07:15 PM (w+Jhj)

90 I voted for Gary Oldman
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Yes, that brave black kid carrying on despite his disease and his parents et alia ripping him off is a very moving story.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 13, 2018 07:16 PM (QCX64)

91
The Black Shithole

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 13, 2018 07:16 PM (H4P6e)

92 I would like to see a version of Robin Hood with the actors speaking the English as actually spoken 800 years ago rather than contemporary Oxford English or American English.
Subtitles would translate into contemporary English.
That's just the language geek in me.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 07:17 PM (nBr1j)

93 TJM, love the posts. I have a question. You seem to give lots of 5/5 Netflix and 4/4 quality, yet you lay off the 4.5 Netflix quite a lot and but slightly more 3.5 quality.

a 4.5 Netflix seems to be very rare. Are you under duress, sir?

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:17 PM (g4lFK)

94 Das Boot has an English dub using the original actors, and English and Krautish seem close enough on the family tree that it seems to match up pretty well, unlike say your 1960's Gojira films where the lips continue to move.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2018 07:17 PM (qJtVm)

95 I think we may have done it before but I'd like to know others guilty pleasure movies. It nice to know you're not the only one that likes a movie that is considered crap by most others.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:17 PM (2DOZq)

96 I found German-dubbed films distracting because they have (or had) kind of a Morgan Freeman System over there. "Hey, Thomas Magnum sounds just like Tom Hanks!" That guy was every main character, it seemed. They probably have many more "voice actors" over here, though, so maybe you don't get as much repitition.

Posted by: t-bird at January 13, 2018 07:17 PM (cW490)

97 Dubbing sucks.

This shouldn't even be a debate.

Dubbing sucks. Subtitles are the way to watch movies whose original language is communist.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 13, 2018 07:17 PM (fuK7c)

98 Best movie filmed in a shithole? Up until a year ago I would have said Olympus Has Fallen, but things have changed.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 13, 2018 07:18 PM (gC2IV)

99 I wear a full suit and tie every Sunday, but I have no problem with the guy in the WWF t-shirt sitting next to me as we sing Just As I Am. For all I know that's his nicest t-shirt, and more importantly he's there, dangit. That's what matters.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:18 PM (ks6bw)

100 If 'The Miracle Worker' had had subtitles I might've known wth was going on.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 13, 2018 07:18 PM (EnBJN)

101

A Fistful Of Shitholes

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 13, 2018 07:19 PM (H4P6e)

102 88 Best movie filmed in a shithole:

Last Tango in Paris.

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:15 PM (2sCft)

++++

That's what the butter is for.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 13, 2018 07:19 PM (pvjTE)

103 Runaway with Tom Selleck from 1984 is on, just in case you wondered what Tom saying 'fcuk' sounds like.

Posted by: Eromero at January 13, 2018 07:19 PM (zLDYs)

104 75 Genius idea. I bet it will be mind blowing and make yuge sales.

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:07 PM

It looks like the movie and has all the original actors and voices, Sheen, Brando, Hopper, Duvall, Forrest, Fishburne, Ford etc. It was shown to me and I thought "It must be costing then squillions in licencing to use all of this." Then I heard it was Coppola himself.
Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 07:11 PM (qGuLD)

1st video game to win an Oscar for best picture and other awards?

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:19 PM (g4lFK)

105 I wear a full suit and tie every Sunday, but I have no problem with the guy in the WWF t-shirt sitting next to me as we sing Just As I Am. For all I know that's his nicest t-shirt, and more importantly he's there, dangit. That's what matters.
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:18 PM (ks6bw)
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Just happy for anyone who's there and hearing the Word.

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:19 PM (2sCft)

106 Also, for those fans of impenetrable Swedish gloom, I give to you De Duve:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3JEIQk4mZQ

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2018 07:19 PM (qJtVm)

107 Were Greta Garbo's movies all in English, or did she do Swedish films too? Same question for Ingrid Bergman.

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:19 PM (lwiT4)

108 That's what the butter is for.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 13, 2018 07:19 PM (pvjTE)

Extra Movie Butter!!!

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:20 PM (2sCft)

109 Dirty Shithole

Posted by: jsg at January 13, 2018 07:20 PM (ioQ79)

110 93 TJM, love the posts. I have a question. You seem to give lots of 5/5 Netflix and 4/4 quality, yet you lay off the 4.5 Netflix quite a lot and but slightly more 3.5 quality.

a 4.5 Netflix seems to be very rare. Are you under duress, sir?
Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:17 PM (g4lFK)

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Netflix doesn't allow half stars is all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 13, 2018 07:20 PM (Jj43a)

111 I would like to see a version of Robin Hood with the actors speaking the English as actually spoken 800 years ago rather than contemporary Oxford English or American English.
Subtitles would translate into contemporary English.
That's just the language geek in me.
Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 07:17 PM (nBr1j)

That reminds me. Mel Gibson's "Hamlet" was on this week and "Much Ado About Nothing" was on last week. I love Shakespeare spoken as written.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 13, 2018 07:21 PM (T71PA)

112 Man, we couldn't be out of alignment on this. All Japanese anime *must* be watched in the original language. Dubbing sucks.

Agree, the Japanese voice actors are usually much better than their American voice-overs. Translation suffers, too, in order to get the timing of the voice-over right. Subtitles suffer some degradation, too, but there's only so much you do with two languages and cultures that are so different.

Posted by: socratease at January 13, 2018 07:21 PM (2GbWn)

113 97 Dubbing sucks.

This shouldn't even be a debate.

Dubbing sucks. Subtitles are the way to watch movies whose original language is communist.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 13, 2018 07:17 PM (fuK7c)

Adderall consumption should not be required to watch a film mister smart person man.

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:21 PM (g4lFK)

114 99 I wear a full suit and tie every Sunday, but I have no problem with the guy in the WWF t-shirt sitting next to me as we sing Just As I Am. For all I know that's his nicest t-shirt, and more importantly he's there, dangit. That's what matters.
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:18 PM (ks6bw)

I'm comfortable in a coat and tie. So I'd have no problem dressing that way for church. But church culture is casual so I only rarely wear a tie. I can't bring myself to wear shorts even on the hottest days. Don't care if others do,

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 07:21 PM (nBr1j)

115 You can watch the DVD of "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" with special subtitle options. You can watch with subtitles translated into Japanese, then back into English, or you can watch with subtitles from "Henry IV: Part II" if you don't like Monty Python.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2018 07:21 PM (ANIFC)

116 Not that it matters but I have decided that Brendon Gleeson is my all time favorite actor. He will forever be my Churchill. Watching him go from Braveheart to Cold Mountain to Into the Storm and In Bruges. He can really act.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 13, 2018 07:21 PM (2HZ4X)

117 more importantly he's there, dangit. That's what matters.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:18 PM (ks6bw)
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That's my feeling too, Moron Robbie. I once saw a family with a pack of kids coming into church - kids were all still in their jammies. Don't care. Glad to have them.

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:22 PM (lwiT4)

118 English films that need subtitles: The Mayor of Casterbridge.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2018 07:22 PM (qJtVm)

119 Fun fact: the cast of Das Boot spoke perfectly good English and did their own dubs for their characters.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 13, 2018 07:22 PM (y87Qq)

120 Best movie filmed in a shithole by inhabitant thereof:

"The Harder They Come"

Posted by: naturalfake at January 13, 2018 07:22 PM (9q7Dl)

121 Having someone dub Ahnold *into* German was just weird.
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Austrian.

Posted by: b.h. obama at January 13, 2018 07:22 PM (QCX64)

122 A similar thing that bugs me is English movies about Germans. The good Germans talk like real people and the bad Germans speak with heavy German accents.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 07:22 PM (+y/Ru)

123 So it's not a movie, but there was a movie, so anyway...

Has anyone made it through the new X-Files? I was a big fan twenty years or whatever ago, but I couldn't get past them making these elderly agents who weren't very physical or fast when they were in their early 30s f*cking SUPERHEROES in the reboot.

The first episode I saw had Mulder Fast and Furiousing in a new Mustang. The car chase felt like it lasted two or three minutes. It was jarringly out of place and character.

Then the last episode I tried to watch had Mulder and Elderly (and sick) Sculley in a shootout with highly trained professional operators ages 25-30 or so. Team X-Files killed two or three or more and escaped, of course.

Then I gave up.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:23 PM (ks6bw)

124 103 Runaway with Tom Selleck from 1984 is on, just in case you wondered what Tom saying 'fcuk' sounds like.
Posted by: Eromero

Is that the movie with Gene Simmons as the bad guy. If its the one I'm thinking about, it was SciFi-ish.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2018 07:23 PM (peJQi)

125 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2018 07:17 PM (qJtVm)

* shakes tiny slow-typing fist in impotent rage *

Posted by: hogmartin at January 13, 2018 07:23 PM (y87Qq)

126 Just watched Tom Selleck shoot Dr. Lazarus earlier today.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:23 PM (2DOZq)

127 But church culture is casual so I only rarely wear a
tie. I can't bring myself to wear shorts even on the hottest days.
Don't care if others do,

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 07:21 PM (nBr1j)
===================

Pastor at my old happy fun church once preached in his UnderDog tshirt. I think it might have had a tie-in to his message. Maybe not.

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:23 PM (lwiT4)

128 110 93 TJM, love the posts. I have a question. You seem to give lots of 5/5 Netflix and 4/4 quality, yet you lay off the 4.5 Netflix quite a lot and but slightly more 3.5 quality.

a 4.5 Netflix seems to be very rare. Are you under duress, sir?
Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:17 PM (g4lFK)

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Netflix doesn't allow half stars is all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 13, 2018 07:20 PM (Jj43a)

Netflix's rating system used to be very useful, until they went "thumbs up/thumbs down", apparently because Amy Schumer's special got such bad ratings.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2018 07:24 PM (ANIFC)

129 The subtitled version of 'What's Up Tiger Lily?' was really, really different.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 13, 2018 07:24 PM (oVJmc)

130 Not that it matters but I have decided that Brendon Gleeson is my all time favorite actor. He will forever be my Churchill. Watching him go from Braveheart to Cold Mountain to Into the Storm and In Bruges. He can really act.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 13, 2018 07:21 PM (2HZ4X)

I cannot disagree with that. I haven't him a lot, but he is very compelling. Even his Mad-Eye Moody in The Harry Potter movies was excellent. And by far my favorite character in Braveheart.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 13, 2018 07:24 PM (bNbo2)

131 110 93 TJM, love the posts. I have a question. You seem to give lots of 5/5 Netflix and 4/4 quality, yet you lay off the 4.5 Netflix quite a lot and but slightly more 3.5 quality.

a 4.5 Netflix seems to be very rare. Are you under duress, sir?
Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:17 PM (g4lFK)

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Netflix doesn't allow half stars is all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 13, 2018 07:20 PM (Jj43a)

To be fair they don't allow any stars because of Amy Schumer's terrible stand up. It's thumbs up or thumbs down.

Could you give a half star a test drive at least to see how she feels?

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:25 PM (g4lFK)

132 Though not a movie, Cowboy Beebop is dubbed and its still a great anime. Still watch it quite a bit.
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2018 07:08 PM

I like the English dub better because it sounds much more like the '70s cop shows that my parents liked.

Also, I haaaaaated the Disney dub of My Neighbor Totoro. I had an old FOX studio dub-only DVD that was just great. The sobrinos used to sing along to the opening song. The Disney dub of Spirited Away also stinks mightily.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 13, 2018 07:26 PM (G8B7r)

133 I disagree on anime. In the early 90s I started watching anime, usually the subtitled ones from Animeigo. I prefer subs as the voices in the original language portray the emotional content better than dubs did. Japanese voice actors/actresses are superb.

English dubs have improved from the old days of the 90s but I still like the subtitled better. That's my preference.

Of course there were fan recorded series early on where I'd have to read a script along with watching but computer subtitles got easier/cheaper to make in the early 90s so I didn't have to do that too many times as fan-subs and then commercial versions became available. Some of the fan-subs were better than the commercial versions.

Posted by: geoffb at January 13, 2018 07:27 PM (zOpu5)

134 Just watched Tom Selleck shoot Dr. Lazarus earlier today.

I'd rather watch him shoot Hans Gruber.

Posted by: socratease at January 13, 2018 07:27 PM (2GbWn)

135 The subtitled version of 'What's Up Tiger Lily?' was really, really different.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 13, 2018 07:24 PM (oVJmc)

+++
Ha! Haven't thought of that movie in years. My adolescent buddies and I loved it and thought is was genius. The jap girl chasing after the car saying something like "wait, you've got my vibrator" was pretty avant garde for us.

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:27 PM (2sCft)

136 Who wouldn't prefer Speed Racer's dubbing? It's epic.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 13, 2018 07:28 PM (oVJmc)

137 Barring a few exceptions, good talent can be hard to find unless you have the money to attract professional movie actors, and for most foreign distributions that is out of the question.
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There was a Japanese channel in Hawaii that showed slice-of-life general interest clips and one was of a British student in Japan who did English subtitles for Japanese movies and t.v. shows. So, the "talent" does it for beer and ramen money.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2018 07:28 PM (qJtVm)

138 I've gotten to where I prefer dubbing to subtitles overall.

That way you can just watch the movie.

If it's a good action or horror movie, like say "Inside" in French,

it doesn't matter that much.

They're not going to dialog you into horror (which takes a tremendous amount of skill by the way - see dildo monologue in "Seven").

Most of the dialogue is "EEK!!!" ACKKK! anyway.

I guess my point is - I'd rather see a dubbed movie, assuming the dubbing is well-done.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 13, 2018 07:28 PM (9q7Dl)

139
Not that it matters to anyone, but the stupid eagles are on the verge of losing, which would be nice.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 13, 2018 07:29 PM (H4P6e)

140 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2018 07:22 PM (qJtVm)

LOL; That's true.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2018 07:29 PM (8+Ozj)

141 I have seen none of these movies. What do I win?

Posted by: RI Red - Expert on everything expert at January 13, 2018 07:29 PM (bfIes)

142 Who wouldn't prefer Speed Racer's dubbing? It's epic.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 13, 2018 07:28 PM (oVJmc)

+++
And let's not let it go unacknowledged all the great work that was done on the Ultra Man series.

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:30 PM (2sCft)

143 Not that it matters but I have decided that Brendon
Gleeson is my all time favorite actor. He will forever be my Churchill.
Watching him go from Braveheart to Cold Mountain to Into the Storm
and In Bruges. He can really act.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 13, 2018 07:21 PM (2HZ4X)

I will watch anything with him in it.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at January 13, 2018 07:30 PM (/o9Qk)

144 I watched Twilight with the ex wife to see how that series was making so much money. It became clear very fast that it was mommy porn for borderline pedophiles (pederasts or herbophiles?) I tried making jokes which angered her. I feel asleep in every one but the first, which was legit the worst movie I have ever made it through.

I feel,asleep in the theaters and was snoring. She was embarrassed but I was embarrassed for those staying awake.

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:30 PM (g4lFK)

145 136 I think Speed Racer is one of the American releases where they more-or-less re-wrote the dialog.

Posted by: socratease at January 13, 2018 07:31 PM (2GbWn)

146 I feel asleep in every one but the first, which was legit the worst movie I have ever made it through.

I feel,asleep in the theaters and was snoring. She was embarrassed but I was embarrassed for those staying awake.
Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:30 PM (g4lFK)

"You better hold on tight spider monkey."

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:32 PM (2sCft)

147 So it's not a movie, but there was a movie, so anyway...

Has anyone made it through the new X-Files? I was a big fan twenty years or whatever ago, but I couldn't get past them making these elderly agents who weren't very physical or fast when they were in their early 30s f*cking SUPERHEROES in the reboot.

The first episode I saw had Mulder Fast and Furiousing in a new Mustang. The car chase felt like it lasted two or three minutes. It was jarringly out of place and character.

Then the last episode I tried to watch had Mulder and Elderly (and sick) Sculley in a shootout with highly trained professional operators ages 25-30 or so. Team X-Files killed two or three or more and escaped, of course.

Then I gave up.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:23 PM

Yeah, I'm up to date. Dunno why they're going with super M+S... it is odd and not in character. It's a mixed bag. The first episode was typical Chris Carter soup of WTF? The second episode was better. At least it had the Ramones in it. It was a decent ep done in the old mid level quality range. Going from last season to this, it appears to be a case of some meh eps (chris carter conspiracy stuff) and some good eps (standalone monster of the week) and maybe one or 2 that fall in between. Not as good as classic x-files, but still better than most of the shit on tv.

Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 07:32 PM (qGuLD)

148 I watched Twilight with the ex wife to see how that series was making so
much money. It became clear very fast that it was mommy porn for
borderline pedophiles (pederasts or herbophiles?)

---

I'm old enough to remember when 30 year olds weren't supposed to gaze longingly at 18 year olds.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:33 PM (ks6bw)

149 I'm old enough to remember when 30 year olds weren't supposed to gaze longingly at 18 year olds.
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:33 PM (ks6bw)

What's the problem??

Posted by: Roy Moore at January 13, 2018 07:34 PM (2sCft)

150 Moron Robbie @ 114-Suit and tie?
I wear jeans and a jacket. And perhaps a HK P30S. Perhaps.

Posted by: Eromero at January 13, 2018 07:34 PM (zLDYs)

151 My wife tricked me into going to Twilight with her. I still use it against her.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 13, 2018 07:34 PM (oVJmc)

152 Philly pucker factor....

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 13, 2018 07:35 PM (89T5c)

153 Off lecherous Republican sock!

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:35 PM (2sCft)

154 To be fair to dubs, when you watch something that has a lot going on visually you will end up missing a bit of that with subs. Especially if a lot of dialogue is happening at the same time.

Also if you aren't paying close attention or can't be constantly watching the screen you can miss a lot of information with subs that you would still be able to follow with dubs.

Original productions can be compromised too: casting someone famous or attractive who isn't necessarily any good is not uncommon. Very unnatural sounding voices are often chosen as well. It's easier to ignore if you aren't fluent, but given enough exposure you can pick up on it.

In my experience dubs still generally end up being a worse product, but there are a few times where they measure up well.

Posted by: Sjg at January 13, 2018 07:36 PM (gDSJf)

155 Dubbing doesn't always suck.

Case in point: Godzilla movies.

I wouldn't want to watch a ~~Gojira~~ Godzilla movie while having to read subtitles. The dubbing is part of the fun. Granted, I don't take ~~kaiju~~ giant monster movies seriously in the first place, so I go into watching one in a spirit of fun, and the dubbing makes it fun.

Posted by: Hands at January 13, 2018 07:36 PM (EzdLW)

156 The only footage I've seen of the Twilight movies was through the caustic wit of the Cinema Sins Guy. and even that was tedious.

50 Shades of Ghey is likely even worse.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 13, 2018 07:36 PM (bNbo2)

157 Just a small ticky tack point to make - SOUTHERN Italy was poorer post-war than pre-war, not all of Italy proper. I have family in both north and south ranging from Lugano to Calabria and know the history quite well (certainly no "expert") but from what families report, the northerners were always comfortable while family in the south, for example, used every single piece of a cow when butchered. (won't get into any details) From what I understand, Eastwood filmed those spaghetti westerns in the south where it indeed was dirt cheap and with lots interesting-looking extras, to say the least.

Posted by: MSTisdale at January 13, 2018 07:37 PM (xHVD5)

158 128 Netflix's rating system used to be very useful, until they went "thumbs up/thumbs down", apparently because Amy Schumer's special got such bad ratings.
Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2018 07:24 PM (ANIFC)

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The DVD site still uses the stars. I've never rated anything in the streaming site since the change.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at January 13, 2018 07:37 PM (Jj43a)

159 Speaking of The Seventh Seal, that last scene shows the main characters pushing a cart over a skyline to the afterlife. The last scene of A Bridge Too Far shows the Dutch family whose house was used as a hospital then destroyed pushing a cart over a skyline. I'm convinced it is a conscious reference to The Seventh Seal. A Bridge Too Far has several other very artistic moments (for a war movie).

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 07:37 PM (+y/Ru)

160 The American dialog dubbed in "Star Bl@zers" was different than the script in "Space Battleship Yamato." For example, as the Argo/Yamato leaves Earth, Captain Avatar and Wildstar share a drink of sake. In the American rescript, it's spring water, from the last source of natural water on Earth. Which I found to be more poignant than sake.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2018 07:37 PM (ANIFC)

161
The falcons are shitholes.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 13, 2018 07:37 PM (H4P6e)

162 Am I only allowed to leer at actors my age and older?

Can I gaze longingly at, say, 1981 Jurgen Prucknow?

How about animated characters? Cross-dressing Bugs Bunny, yes or no?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 13, 2018 07:38 PM (qJtVm)

163 Philly wins

Posted by: jsg at January 13, 2018 07:38 PM (ioQ79)

164 150
Moron Robbie @ 114-Suit and tie?
I wear jeans and a jacket. And perhaps a HK P30S. Perhaps.

Posted by: Eromero at January 13, 2018 07:34 PM (zLDYs)

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Yeah, concealed carry becomes much easier when you've got a jacket to cover your weapon. I rarely leave the house without at least a sportcoat these days in part because I'm dressing nicer in general, and also because many more carry options open up when even a full size 1911 is viable. It really just becomes a matter of favorites over conceal-ability.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:38 PM (ks6bw)

165 96 I found German-dubbed films distracting because they have (or had) kind of a Morgan Freeman System over there. "Hey, Thomas Magnum sounds just like Tom Hanks!" That guy was every main character, it seemed. They probably have many more "voice actors" over here, though, so maybe you don't get as much repitition.
Posted by: t-bird at January 13, 2018 07:17 PM (cW490)

The worst for me was watching American films dubbed into Italian when I was stationed in Italy.

Imagine John Wayne speaking in an Andy Kaufman-doing-Latka voice. That kinda stuff.

Luigi giving me stink-eye as I laughed myself to tears.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 13, 2018 07:38 PM (di1hb)

166 not a movie, Cowboy Beebop is dubbed and its still a great anime. Still watch it quite a bit.
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2018 07:08 PM (peJQi)

Because Steven Blum aka David Lucas is the greatest VA ever. EVER.

Posted by: Gem at January 13, 2018 07:39 PM (XoAz8)

167
I'm old enough to remember when 30 year olds weren't supposed to gaze longingly at 18 year olds.
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:33 PM (ks6bw)

It's college basketball season. No one's telling this, um, 29 y.o man to look the other way when they show the cheerleaders. (okay, they're not 18, probably 19-22, but close enough).

Posted by: Hands at January 13, 2018 07:39 PM (EzdLW)

168 Iggles gonna hang on

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:39 PM (lwiT4)

169 (how movies that are, quite literally, boring could reach such a phenomenon status, I'll never really know).
--

It was all hyped from the books, which are based on various female sexual fantasies. No surprise that 50 Shades (essentially a Twilight fan-fic without the supernatural elements) became such a phenomenon.

Eh -- that's OK and all. But no surprise that the movies were duds if you didn't approach it from that perspective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36o71Z9uwpw

Posted by: Revenant at January 13, 2018 07:39 PM (yXLbm)

170 The only movies I've watched lately are the Project Atlas Progress Reports.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiLjlUmNZwQ

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2018 07:40 PM (sdi6R)

171 Okay I was going to post snark about wearing 'rags' to church but I didn't want to say rags. I wanted to say the terms used in the Bible what is worn to be humble when asking for god's forgiveness but I am having a mental block. Ash something something.

Help me out.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:40 PM (2DOZq)

172 That was a nail biter

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 07:41 PM (aC6Sd)

173 I normally don't correct typos since I make far, far too many of them- and some of them are quite funny-but the correct word is "hebephile" not "herbophile". Herbophile sounds like someone who wants to have sex with their spice cabinet. It was funny though. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2018 07:41 PM (8+Ozj)

174 It really just becomes a matter of favorites over conceal-ability.
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:38 PM (ks6bw)
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I'm carrying Sig P938 in church after that Texas church shooting. God protects us by many means.

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:41 PM (2sCft)

175 No one's telling this, um, 29 y.o man to look the other way when they show the cheerleaders. (okay, they're not 18, probably 19-22, but close enough).

Posted by: Hands at January 13, 2018 07:39 PM (EzdLW)

So, you ain't dead yet.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 13, 2018 07:41 PM (T71PA)

176 Odd stat - when two "bird" teams meet in the playoffs, the home team has always won.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2018 07:41 PM (ANIFC)

177 sackcloth?

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2018 07:41 PM (J6xuH)

178 Ash something something.

Help me out.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:40 PM (2DOZq)
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Sackcloth?

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:41 PM (lwiT4)

179 Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:40 PM (2DOZq)

Sackcloth?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2018 07:42 PM (8+Ozj)

180 "Agree, the Japanese voice actors are usually much
better than their American voice-overs. Translation suffers, too, in
order to get the timing of the voice-over right. Subtitles suffer some
degradation, too, but there's only so much you do with two languages and
cultures that are so different.

Posted by: socratease"

And the ones that "edit" the anime by inserting California surfer slang, or even worse, Americanizing the character names.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 07:42 PM (w+Jhj)

181 Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:41 PM (lwiT4)

Thanks grammie , that's it.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:42 PM (2DOZq)

182 I prefer SCTV's Das Boobs myself and it's dubbed.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 13, 2018 07:42 PM (QCX64)

183 173 I normally don't correct typos since I make far, far too many of them- and some of them are quite funny-but the correct word is "hebephile" not "herbophile". Herbophile sounds like someone who wants to have sex with their spice cabinet. It was funny though. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2018 07:41 PM (8+Ozj)

Or have sex with a guy named Herb.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2018 07:42 PM (ANIFC)

184 Better the Eagles than the Falcons. Who's up next?

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:42 PM (lwiT4)

185 Okay I was going to post snark about wearing 'rags' to church but I didn't want to say rags. I wanted to say the terms used in the Bible what is worn to be humble when asking for god's forgiveness but I am having a mental block. Ash something something.

Help me out.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:40 PM

Ashes and sackcloth?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 13, 2018 07:42 PM (G8B7r)

186 lol. the 3 sackcloth women. . .appearing together tonight!

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2018 07:43 PM (J6xuH)

187 Why are we talking about sackcloth? I missed a comment.

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:43 PM (2sCft)

188 Hate the Eagles hope they get trounced next week

Posted by: jsg at January 13, 2018 07:43 PM (ioQ79)

189 And booknlass and Fenelon.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:43 PM (2DOZq)

190 All this dubbing/anime talk reminds me that I watched something on the youtubes recently. "Space Pirate Hargrove" or something similar. I was drawn in by the animation (I was a Voltron fan in the late 70s or so), and then I couldn't turn away. It was incredibly detailed and mesmerizing to watch, and I doubt it's really a big standout in the anime world.

I can certainly understand the appeal.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:43 PM (ks6bw)

191 Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2018 07:42 PM (ANIFC)

Which hopefully would be more appealing than having sex with one's spice cabinet.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2018 07:43 PM (8+Ozj)

192 Herbophile sounds like someone who wants to have sex with their spice cabinet. It was funny though. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2018 07:41 PM (8+Ozj)

Is that akin to being a vegesexual?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 13, 2018 07:43 PM (bNbo2)

193
Who's up next?

Titans vs Tom Brady

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 13, 2018 07:43 PM (H4P6e)

194 Why are we talking about sackcloth? I missed a comment.

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:43 PM (2sCft)
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Saturday night we talk fashion. We're just a thread late.

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:44 PM (lwiT4)

195 I love the voting but since I only saw Dunkirk don't want to sway it.

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 07:44 PM (aC6Sd)

196 Titans vs Tom Brady

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 13, 2018 07:43 PM (H4P6e)
===============

oh. yay.

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:44 PM (lwiT4)

197 All the other 'Rons and 'Ronettes are faster than me on Biblical stuff.... and porn stuff.... *sniffle*

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 13, 2018 07:44 PM (G8B7r)

198 sure Roc--I love word games, and guessing things.

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2018 07:45 PM (J6xuH)

199 Herbophile is my new favorite word.

Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:45 PM (ks6bw)

200 Which hopefully would be more appealing than having sex with one's spice cabinet.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2018 07:43 PM (8+Ozj)

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Woah, now. Watch where you get the cayenne pepper!

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:45 PM (2sCft)

201 Dubbing doesn't always suck.

Case in point: Godzilla movies.

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The original Godzilla was on Svengoolie last week and, being the sophisticate that I am, I warched. The US version was more than dubbed. After the movie was completed, they hired Raymond Burr to play a completely new character for roundeyes to relate to, creating, in effect, a different movie.

Svengoolie also sang the Perry Mason thene song with lyrics about Godzilla. Pretty funny.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 07:45 PM (+y/Ru)

202 Ash something something.

Help me out.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:40 PM (2DOZq)
================

Laura Ashley Rompers?

Posted by: naturalfake at January 13, 2018 07:45 PM (9q7Dl)

203 Without the 2 turnovers in the beginning it wouldn't have been that hard

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 07:46 PM (aC6Sd)

204 So what do we think about the ESPN thing about trouble in Patriots Paradise and the Kraft/Brady/Bellichick thing fraying?

Is that fake news or a real thing?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 13, 2018 07:46 PM (fuK7c)

205 Sackcloth is in fashion now?

Posted by: Hands at January 13, 2018 07:46 PM (EzdLW)

206 I confess that once I started to watch The Wire tv series I had to turn the subtitles on.
I know it was English but I just couldn't make it out.

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 13, 2018 07:46 PM (w7KSn)

207 Saturday night we talk fashion. We're just a thread late.
Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:44 PM (lwiT4)

Yes, enjoyed OM's dress pron. Especially the blue one.

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:46 PM (2sCft)

208 Test

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Space Pirate Herbophile at January 13, 2018 07:46 PM (ks6bw)

209 Cross-dressing Bugs Bunny, yes or no?
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I wuv you, Bwunnehiwde!!!

Posted by: elmer fudd at January 13, 2018 07:47 PM (QCX64)

210 Naughty Pine, don't cry.

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2018 07:47 PM (J6xuH)

211 Sackcloth is in fashion now?

Posted by: Hands at January 13, 2018 07:46 PM (EzdLW)
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Try and keep up, dear.

Posted by: grammie winger - for such a time as this at January 13, 2018 07:47 PM (lwiT4)

212 Posted by: naturalfake at January 13, 2018 07:45 PM (9q7Dl)

Even God thinks that's a bridge too far.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 07:47 PM (2DOZq)

213
Cross-dressing Bugs Bunny, yes or no?

Garth from Wayne's World says yes.

Posted by: Hands at January 13, 2018 07:48 PM (EzdLW)

214 James or anyone else interested, this week ran into a film review site, old, new, foreign there seems no rhyme or reason in what is reviewed.
http://www.filmsufi.com

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 07:48 PM (aC6Sd)

215 So what do we think about the ESPN thing about trouble in Patriots Paradise and the Kraft/Brady/Bellichick thing fraying?

Is that fake news or a real thing?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 13, 2018 07:46 PM (fuK7c)
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Puleez. It's ESPN for heaven's sake. Evil Sooper Genius Belichick probably planted story as a distraction.

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:49 PM (2sCft)

216 Today I watched a show in which the narrator said a person was "flayed alive" and it came out as "really delighted".

Posted by: navybrat, enjoying covfefe at January 13, 2018 06:52 PM (w7KSn)

Maybe the character was a dedicated masochist?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 13, 2018 07:49 PM (sD2WN)

217 I saw Three Sackcloth Ladies open for The Indigo Girls at Lilith Faire in 1998.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2018 07:49 PM (ANIFC)

218 I heard the other day that "the whole 9 yards" refers to the entire bolt of fabric in the days of the dry goods store on the frontier.

I used to think it was the magazine of a machine gun.

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2018 07:50 PM (J6xuH)

219 Worst subtitles were for the remake of The Thing. A movie set in Antarctica. And the subtitles were white.

As I noted on my Facebook page at the time, those responsible for the subtitles should have been sacked

Posted by: logprof at January 13, 2018 07:50 PM (CTza7)

220 And Bulitt 1968 is on TCM at 8pm

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 07:51 PM (aC6Sd)

221 I heard the other day that "the whole 9 yards"
refers to the entire bolt of fabric in the days of the dry goods store
on the frontier.

I used to think it was the magazine of a machine gun.

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2018 07:50 PM (J6xuH)

---

Now you've done it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Space Pirate Herbophile at January 13, 2018 07:51 PM (ks6bw)

222 Worst subtitles were for the remake of The Thing. A movie set in Antarctica. And the subtitles were white.

As I noted on my Facebook page at the time, those responsible for the subtitles should have been sacked

Posted by: logprof at January 13, 2018 07:50 PM

They're not the only ones that should have been sacked.

Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 07:51 PM (qGuLD)

223
Is that fake news or a real thing?

I'd say fake.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 13, 2018 07:51 PM (H4P6e)

224 the perry mason theme song is one of the best ever.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 07:52 PM (MTjB1)

225 So. Did I mention the 1/2 venison 1/2 wild boar meatloaf I made yesterday? Whoa, mama, that is some good stuff. Mrs. E and I fired 2 (two) rounds this year and put over a hundred pounds of meat in the freezer, good old ETEX buck and pigs. Kinda wish there was a safe pork jerky.

Posted by: Eromero at January 13, 2018 07:52 PM (zLDYs)

226 Got hit with the flu, so this blog is what I am reading to keep my spirits up til I fall asleep yet again. I liked the Mummy with Brendan Fraser, but the sequels were not good. Hubby added Starz for my birthday and we have found some good movies there. One was a movie with Mel Gibson as a tattoo artist/ex-con who fights to save his daughter, but I can't remember the name because of Advil/NyQuil haze.

Posted by: jmel at January 13, 2018 07:52 PM (OeWgo)

227 the perry mason theme song is one of the best ever.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 07:52 PM (MTjB1)

and the theme from Get Smart.

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 13, 2018 07:53 PM (2sCft)

228 There is a type of movie where my preference flips completely: animated movies.
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I know of one Japanese animated series, El Hazard: The Mysterious World (the first OVA series), in which the guy who created the series apparently likes the American dubs better than the original Japanese voice actors. The insane laugh of one of the characters probably contributes to that.

By and large, though, I prefer the subtitled version. Dubbed translations tend to suffer from a variety of different problems, including translations that are less accurate (sometimes in part because a more accurate translation would have meant that the voice actor's lines and the character's mouth movement wouldn't coincide), and extra dialogue to increase the "edginess" (usually gratuitous profanity that didn't exist in the original). One now-bankrupt company that imported anime to the US (ADV) was particularly notorious for the latter.

So I like subtitles better.

It also means you get to watch unintentionally hilarious scenes like the one in Martian Successor Nadesico in which a speech to the UN is actually delivered in English by a Japanese voice actor, but the accent is so awful that you have to have subtitles to understand it.

On another note...

Quite a while back, an Extra on a friend's "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" disc was subtitles in English (think machine-translation quality) of dubbed Japanese dialogue for the French Knights scene. It was pretty funny stuff.

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 07:53 PM (zGswo)

229 I like subtitles in foreign films, but find sometimes they are not synchronized, I forget which Russian movie I watched they were off by minutes

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 07:53 PM (aC6Sd)

230 173 I normally don't correct typos since I make far, far too many of them- and some of them are quite funny-but the correct word is "hebephile" not "herbophile". Herbophile sounds like someone who wants to have sex with their spice cabinet. It was funny though. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2018 07:41 PM (8+Ozj)

Just trying to fulfill my role as the Horde's Straight Man. My many many unforced errors (lazy) are low hanging fruit for y'all

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 07:53 PM (g4lFK)

231 And Bulitt 1968 is on TCM at 8pm

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 07:51 PM (aC6Sd)

One of 3 movies that Steve McQueen and Robert Vaughn starred in

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2018 07:53 PM (SiINZ)

232 theme from Get Smart.
Posted by: SteveOReno at January

that is good too, except whenever I hear it I think of the intro to the show and associated stupidity.

Peter Gunn is very good.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 07:55 PM (MTjB1)

233 Filmsufi.com says it focuses on films from "Iran and parts of Asia." I guess they ran out of material and had to expand.

Posted by: Gem at January 13, 2018 07:55 PM (XoAz8)

234 @206 I confess that once I started to watch The Wire tv series I had to turn the subtitles on.
I know it was English but I just couldn't make it out.
----------------------

"Does anyone here speak Jive?"

(also cue the "Does anyone here speak Leet?" jokes that turned up at a couple of different web-comics)

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 07:56 PM (zGswo)

235
I have 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon' on DVD and have watched it both ways. I much prefer the characters speaking English. I do like hearing Chinese, but I can't follow the subtitles without losing what the actors are doing.

Same with the movie 'La Fem Nikita'; I prefer English.

The Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns, while very dramatic when new, don't age well in any language.

Posted by: Andrew Chin at January 13, 2018 07:56 PM (GroCc)

236 jmel.. ugh.. feel better soon. I'm sure you know the drill. medicate, liquids, rest. I'm praying like a madwoman that I don't get this nasty thing.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 13, 2018 07:56 PM (dUJdY)

237 One of 3 movies that Steve McQueen and Robert Vaughn starred in

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Bullitt, Magnificent Seven, and ?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 07:56 PM (+y/Ru)

238
One was a movie with Mel Gibson as a tattoo artist/ex-con who fights to save his daughter, but I can't remember the name because of Advil/NyQuil haze.
Posted by: jmel at January 13, 2018 07:52 PM (OeWgo)

Blood Father?

Posted by: Hands at January 13, 2018 07:57 PM (EzdLW)

239 What's with all the mourning and penance?

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 13, 2018 07:57 PM (NWiLs)

240 What's Up Tiger Lilly, which honestly is my favorite Woody Allen movies, had ridiculous English lines dubbed in.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 07:12 PM (nBr1j)

Does anyone here remember Fractured Flickers, a TV series hosted by Hans Conried? They would take clips from old silent movies, and dub in absurd dialog, just as Woody did in Tiger Lily. But I think they beat Woody to the gimmick.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 13, 2018 07:57 PM (sD2WN)

241 224 the perry mason theme song is one of the best ever.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- -

I agree. others I like is Rush's use of the Pretenders' music for his intro, and Black Books' theme.

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2018 07:57 PM (J6xuH)

242 They never recorded sound while they filmed for several decades. Federico Fellini actually used that as an advantage and played music while he filmed. The effect is most pronounced in 8 1/2 where it looks like Marcello Mastroianni is dancing through scenes.

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Interesting, did not know that. Thanks, TJM.

After this season's finale of "Stranger Things", Netflix ran a series of interviews with the creators (The Duffer Brothers) and various groups of actors.

They mentioned that they use this technique, playing different kinds of music without recording sound, to stimulate actors' emotions and movements to get certain desired effects. The actors said it was highly effective.

I was enjoying watching the interview vignettes until they wanted to discuss "real science" because the guy who plays the school science teacher in the series is obviously an actor and not a scientist -- and so, drumroll please -- they brought onto the set Bill Nye.

Completely ruined the segments and stopped watching immediately. Ugh. #FakeScience

Posted by: ShainS at January 13, 2018 07:57 PM (BiLU+)

243 I'm pretty sure that playing Whitesnake tunes at a sporting event is racist.

Posted by: Fritz at January 13, 2018 07:58 PM (bJ0w+)

244 Naughty Pine, don't cry.
Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2018 07:47 PM

*wipes away tears*

I'm just going to have to play catch-up by studying my Bible more and figuring out where I can watch some pron about basil and turmeric.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 13, 2018 07:58 PM (G8B7r)

245 Herbaphile? Like with a ficus?

Posted by: hillary (-) (') at January 13, 2018 07:58 PM (QCX64)

246 No ,that sight has American films as well, There Will be Blood is back a few pages and what caught me was a review of the many War and Peace movies

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 07:59 PM (aC6Sd)

247 Is anyone else triggering a spam filter with their posts?

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:00 PM (zGswo)

248 One of 3 movies that Steve McQueen and Robert Vaughn starred in.

Yes, but did they ever appear in the same TV show together. Wanted

ead or Alive perhaps?

Posted by: dantesed at January 13, 2018 08:00 PM (88xKn)

249 So, I voted in a poll, but nothing? Would you like to vote again?

Posted by: Fritz at January 13, 2018 08:01 PM (bJ0w+)

250 herbaphile is actually a fashion term, refers to people that like to mix plaid and stripes.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:01 PM (MTjB1)

251 83 - Just in case it hasn't been mentioned, Robocop was filmed around Dallas rather than Detroit.

Though maybe there as your point.

Posted by: Bete in a malaise at January 13, 2018 08:01 PM (Ojki1)

252 I agree. others I like is Rush's use of the Pretenders' music for his intro, and Black Books' theme.
Posted by: booknlass at January

link?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:02 PM (MTjB1)

253 Subs vs dubs is an evergreen debate in Western anime circles. It does NOT help that not all dubs are created equal...nor are all subs, as anyone who saw the original Dangaioh can attest...!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at January 13, 2018 08:03 PM (lLeln)

254 204 So what do we think about the ESPN thing about trouble in Patriots Paradise and the Kraft/Brady/Bellichick thing fraying?

Is that fake news or a real thing?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 13, 2018 07:46 PM (fuK7c)

The shithole ESPN hit piece akin to their brethren leftist, political hacks attacking anything conservative.

The fact is that at 40, Brady is limiteed on time remaining as as Belichick at 17 years in to the franchise. If NE happens to lose in this years playoffs- it will be a self-aggrandizing , Watergate-type, pat on the back for ESPN's bold article breaking the story.

Even if NE does win it- at some point- fairly soon, the hacks great journalism will prove to be correct in the break-up of the greatest run of all time in NFL history.

ESPN is a shithole's, shithole...

Posted by: texcat at January 13, 2018 08:03 PM (wf3RQ)

255 I'm just going to have to play catch-up by studying
my Bible more and figuring out where I can watch some pron about basil
and turmeric.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 13, 2018 07:58 PM (G8B7r)

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Turns out the second part is probably easier than the first nowadays.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Space Pirate Herbophile at January 13, 2018 08:03 PM (ks6bw)

256 One of 3 movies that Steve McQueen and Robert Vaughn starred in

-
Bullitt, Magnificent Seven, and ?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 07:56 PM (+y/Ru)

The Towering Inferno

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2018 08:03 PM (SiINZ)

257 Can I get Animal House in Mandarin? Tagalog?

Posted by: Burger Chef at January 13, 2018 08:03 PM (RuIsu)

258
RE: Movie poll

Is it necessary that one has seen the movie before voting on it?

Posted by: Andrew Chin at January 13, 2018 08:03 PM (GroCc)

259 "The Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns, while very dramatic when new, don't age well in any language.

Posted by: Andrew Chin"

Blaspheme! Persecute! Burn the Heretic!

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 08:04 PM (w+Jhj)

260 From what I hear, willow is quite the herbophile.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 13, 2018 08:05 PM (NWiLs)

261 RE: Movie poll

Is it necessary that one has seen the movie before voting on it?
Posted by: Andrew Chin at January

well, not watching them is a vote.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:05 PM (MTjB1)

262 Das Boot was a great movie with subtitles...with the english dubbed in...not so much, seemed to lose something.

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 13, 2018 08:05 PM (CDETr)

263 -- they brought onto the set Bill Nye.

Completely ruined the segments and stopped watching immediately. Ugh. #FakeScience
Posted by: ShainS at January 13, 2018 07:57 PM (BiLU+)

Well....nobody's perfect. love that show. Hope the Duffers do not wreck the third season.

Bill? Nye?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 13, 2018 08:06 PM (bNbo2)

264 Is it necessary that one has seen the movie before voting on it?

Posted by: Andrew Chin at January 13, 2018 08:03 PM (GroCc)

That didn't stop the Amazon reviews for the AOSHQ Cookbook.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 13, 2018 08:06 PM (T71PA)

265 I've only watched two movies with subtitles. One was The Umbrellas of Cherbourg with the lovely Catherine Deneuve. Saw that when I was a teen. Cried my eyes out. The other was I believe The Lives of Others. One that Rush recommended several years ago. Chilling.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 13, 2018 08:06 PM (dUJdY)

266 Robert Vaughn must have needed money when he was older because he was in a lot of questionable movies. Or maybe he is just a honey badger and don't give a crap.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 08:06 PM (2DOZq)

267 So the spam filter is triggering for my various attempts to respond to post 190. Time to try a different method.

Space Pirate Hargrove is almost certainly Space Pirate Captain Harlock. That's a well-known series by Leiji Matsumoto. He's probably best known for Space Battleship Yamato, which was repackaged, rewritten, and released for US television.

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:07 PM (zGswo)

268 herbaphile is actually a fashion term,

God as your witness, you hought you could slip that one by unnoticed, did you?

Posted by: t-bird at January 13, 2018 08:07 PM (cW490)

269 I thought Dunkirk was missing a valuable bigger picture but is still a very good movie, but I don't know if one of the others is better so holding my vote.

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 08:07 PM (aC6Sd)

270 Odd stat - when two "bird" teams meet in the playoffs, the home team has always won.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2018 07:41 PM (ANIFC)

Migration is a stone bitch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 13, 2018 08:07 PM (sD2WN)

271 Apparently writing S-t-a-r-b-l-a-z-e-r-s triggers the spam filter.

smh

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:08 PM (zGswo)

272 (usually gratuitous profanity that didn't exist in the original)

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 07:53 PM (zGswo)

This one can really aggravate me. A lot of Japanese scripts are very clean (in part due to not really having a counterpart to much of our profanity) and someone in the translation process decides to add it in. It's makes sense to some extent, maybe that salty old vet should be swearing like a sailor. Sometimes though, the most straight-laced, goody two-shoes will start using the foulest language imaginable, added to the script only because some translator was raised in a barn and thinks it's normal speech.

It can be very common in fan translations too. Apparently it's not English unless everyone speaks like they're in a Tarintino film.

Posted by: Sjg at January 13, 2018 08:08 PM (gDSJf)

273 I think that by this point you all know my tastes relatively well.

8mm, 16mm, 35mm, 70mm, b/w, color, 3 color, technicolor, small screen, wide screen, cinemascope, panavision, todd-a-o, cinerama, 3d, silent, talkie, domestic, noir, comedy, sci-fi, romcom, foreign, documentary:

I think I missed a couple.

Posted by: gNewt at January 13, 2018 08:08 PM (cWAlb)

274 Hang Em High was on today. Not a bad Clint movie. Not as good as Joe Kidd but good enough. The Skipper was in it.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 08:08 PM (2DOZq)

275 I rented Dunkirk this week. My opinion? It sucked wet ass.

Posted by: inflammable at January 13, 2018 08:09 PM (aKxP+)

276 Odd stat - when two "bird" teams meet in the playoffs, the home team has always won.

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2018 07:41 PM (ANIFC)

Also eagles are much larger raptors than are falcons.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Wild Turkey Enthusiast at January 13, 2018 08:09 PM (bNbo2)

277

The Towering Inferno by the way was THE only movie that Fred Astaire and Bobby Brady were ever in together

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2018 08:09 PM (SiINZ)

278 This one can really aggravate me. A lot of Japanese scripts are very clean (in part due to not really having a counterpart to much of our profanity) and someone in the translation process decides to add it in. It's makes sense to some extent, maybe that salty old vet should be swearing like a sailor. Sometimes though, the most straight-laced, goody two-shoes will start using the foulest language imaginable, added to the script only because some translator was raised in a barn and thinks it's normal speech.

It can be very common in fan translations too. Apparently it's not English unless everyone speaks like they're in a Tarintino film.
Posted by: Sjg at January

something peculiar about a country that makes tentacle rape porn where no one uses profanity.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:09 PM (MTjB1)

279 Japanese always sounds angryish to me.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 08:10 PM (nBr1j)

280 The Towering Inferno by the way was THE only movie that Fred Astaire and Bobby Brady were ever in together
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January

well, publicly released.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:10 PM (MTjB1)

281 Space Pirate Captain Harlock.

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That was it! It was incredible. I ended up watching another one about Evangelons or something similar that was interesting and very ornate and complicated, but it didn't really do it for me.

Again, though, the skill in the animation and art is incredible.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Space Pirate Herbophile at January 13, 2018 08:10 PM (ks6bw)

282 277

The Towering Inferno by the way was THE only movie that Fred Astaire and Bobby Brady were ever in together
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2018 08:09 PM (SiINZ)

Do a Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon with Steve McQueen. Go.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 08:11 PM (2DOZq)

283 >>>Das Boot was a great movie with subtitles...with the english dubbed in...not so much, seemed to lose something.<<<

The first time I saw Das Boot was with subtitles and my surround sound was cranked to 11. Truly a moving experience. Great film.

Posted by: Fritz at January 13, 2018 08:11 PM (bJ0w+)

284 Apparently writing S-t-a-r-b-l-a-z-e-r-s triggers the spam filter.

smh

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:08 PM

that word what starts with a "B" has been verbotten around here for the better part of a decade

old, former commenter's nick; got himself banned

didn't just burn a bridge, burnt the river as well

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 13, 2018 08:11 PM (KCxzN)

285 277

The Towering Inferno by the way was THE only movie that Fred Astaire and Bobby Brady were ever in together
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 13, 2018 08:09 PM (SiINZ)
Watched the SCTV spoof the other day. Hilarious.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 08:11 PM (nBr1j)

286 something peculiar about a country that makes tentacle rape porn where no one uses profanity.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:09 PM (MTjB1)

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That would just be tacky.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Space Pirate Herbophile at January 13, 2018 08:12 PM (ks6bw)

287 National Geographic series on D-Day is pretty good. Is this original color film or was it colorized?

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 08:12 PM (w+Jhj)

288 @278 something peculiar about a country that makes tentacle rape porn where no one uses profanity.
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It's probably the whole "much more emotionally restrained" thing.

Thing is, though, there are "sorta kinda" equivalents that sometimes get used when a character is feeling emotionally stressed. "Shto" is probably the most common that's seen in anime. If you watch a lot of subtitled stuff, you come to recognize it when it pops up. And a lot of times the translators will insert profanity where you don't even have something like that.

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:12 PM (zGswo)

289 Hate dubbing, generally. I use subtitles on Netflix all the time. Especially for British shows.

The original Mad Max had a short run in the US -- with dubbed American voices in place of the Aussies.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 13, 2018 08:13 PM (pV/54)

290 171 Okay I was going to post snark about wearing 'rags' to church but I didn't want to say rags. I wanted to say the terms used in the Bible what is worn to be humble when asking for god's forgiveness but I am having a mental block. Ash something something.

Help me out.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol

Sackcloth?

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2018 08:13 PM (peJQi)

291 Uhh, not to brag. Well, actually. Das Boot is best in the original Deutsch.
Gesundheit.

Posted by: RI Red - Expert on everything expert at January 13, 2018 08:13 PM (bfIes)

292 Hey everybody.

TJM, have you seen "I, Tonya" yet?

Honestly, people seem to either love it or hate it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 13, 2018 08:13 PM (eMKNe)

293 Robert Vaughn must have needed money when he was older because he was in a lot of questionable movies. Or maybe he is just a honey badger and don't give a crap.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 08:06 PM (2DOZq)

And yet, even though it may have been a money-grab, Robert Vaugh appeared in one of the greatest comedies evah!...

"Joe's Apartment"

A tremendously stupid, tremendously funny movie featuring talking, singing, and dancing roaches.

It's on Amazon video and well worth the time and money. (could also be on Netflix)

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 13, 2018 08:13 PM (9q7Dl)

294 The Seventh Seal for me from the library, it was Max Von Sydow's deep Swedish voice I heard.

How can the Swedes produce such seemingly menacing character and behave like untermenschen.

Posted by: gNewt at January 13, 2018 08:14 PM (cWAlb)

295 Hate dubbing, generally. I use subtitles on Netflix all the time. Especially for British shows.

The original Mad Max had a short run in the US -- with dubbed American voices in place of the Aussies.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 13, 2018 08:13 PM

That's a bloody outrage, it is! I'm calling the Prime minister...

Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 08:14 PM (qGuLD)

296 The worst for me was watching American films dubbed into Italian when I was stationed in Italy.

* * * * * *

Funniest English-to-foreign dub I've ever heard was the TV show "Dallas" back in the 80's while stationed in the Philippines. "J.R." sounded like a 12 year old and never the same person from line to line.

Posted by: MSTisdale at January 13, 2018 08:14 PM (xHVD5)

297 I think Das Boot is a great film but too dark for more than one viewing.

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 08:15 PM (nBr1j)

298 Posted by: Puddleglum at January 13, 2018 08:13 PM (peJQi)

The church ladies answered me way up the thread but thanks.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 08:15 PM (2DOZq)

299 I heard the other day that "the whole 9 yards" refers to the entire bolt of fabric in the days of the dry goods store on the frontier.

I used to think it was the magazine of a machine gun.

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2018 07:50 PM (J6xuH)
***********

An entire bolt of cloth may be nine yards but the belt for a 50 cal mounted on a B-17 was nine yards and that's when the saying began.

Posted by: gNewt at January 13, 2018 08:16 PM (cWAlb)

300 Three Billboards isn't on the poll list. My best of the year.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 13, 2018 08:16 PM (pV/54)

301 Speaking of subtitled/dubbed movies, this flick is finally getting a deluxe American release on bluray in a few months:

https://tinyurl.com/y7v2vyhe

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 13, 2018 08:16 PM (eMKNe)

302 Posted by: naturalfake at January 13, 2018 08:13 PM (9q7Dl)

I remember the shorts and they were funny.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 08:16 PM (2DOZq)

303 I think Das Boot is a great film but too dark for more than one viewing.
Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January

not much spare power for bright lights on subs. besides make the easy to find.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:16 PM (MTjB1)

304 @281 That was it! It was incredible. I ended up watching another one about Evangelons or something similar that was interesting and very ornate and complicated, but it didn't really do it for me.

Again, though, the skill in the animation and art is incredible.
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Evangelion (or NGE for short) is one of those series that has lots of symbolism... that's largely just there because the writer thought it would look cool. In this case, it's western religious symbolism being used in largely the same fashion that western fiction writers often use eastern religious symbolism. Lots of people love it.

I am not one of those people. I watched 2 (or maybe 4) episodes, and walked away. Couldn't stand it. But a lot of people raved about it back in the day (and quite possibly still do).

It's also worth noting that the guy who created it, Hideo Anno, was in the middle of a battle with depression when he wrote it. Later, after he'd gotten better, he went back and rewrote parts of it, which were released as "Rebuild of Evangelion" movies.

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:17 PM (zGswo)

305 Dunkirk is a great movie. Nolan wants to be Kubrick and he can get close.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 13, 2018 08:17 PM (pV/54)

306 Anybody here see and/or enjoy "Heathers"?

SpikeTV is being replaced by "The Paramount Network," and they have premiering a TV series based on this classic dark 1980s teen comedy, which I believe was supposed to be a John Hughes spoof (among other things).

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 13, 2018 08:17 PM (eMKNe)

307 "Do a Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon with Steve McQueen. Go.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol"

I can get from Kevin Bacon to my brother in only 2 steps.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 08:17 PM (w+Jhj)

308 not much spare power for bright lights on subs. besides make the easy to find.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:16 PM (MTjB1)

And windows are right out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 13, 2018 08:18 PM (sD2WN)

309 by the way, stumbled through some of the mad men shows from their last season. never knew roger gave peggy the octopus porn picture. very funny.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:18 PM (MTjB1)

310 252

sorry dashes and dots, I went to watch Black Books for a minute and didn't come back til now. here's a link

https://tinyurl.com/ycrxc5ye

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2018 08:18 PM (J6xuH)

311 I think Das Boot is a great film but too dark for more than one viewing.

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Most submarine movies look like they were shot in the Royal Ballroom of the Emperial Hotel. In Das Boot you can feel the claustrophobia.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 08:18 PM (+y/Ru)

312 Buffalo's PBS station's closed captioning censors Freddie Blandings' references to the Pink Pussy [P****] Club and does the soundless "beep" of the word.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 13, 2018 08:18 PM (QCX64)

313 Anybody here see and/or enjoy "Heathers"?

SpikeTV is being replaced by "The Paramount Network," and they have premiering a TV series based on this classic dark 1980s teen comedy, which I believe was supposed to be a John Hughes spoof (among other things).

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 13, 2018 08:17 PM

Yeah, the Christian Slater flick? Not bad at all.

Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 08:19 PM (qGuLD)

314

Daddy is an agrophile in Texas
Mommy's on the bar most every night
Little Betty's sleeping in the graveyard
Living there in burgundy and white

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2018 08:19 PM (IqV8l)

315 Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 08:17 PM (w+Jhj)

So you are Kevin Bacon three stepper.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 08:19 PM (2DOZq)

316 I don't mind tentacle rape hentai as long as it's tastefully done.

Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 13, 2018 08:19 PM (NWiLs)

317 301
Speaking of subtitled/dubbed movies, this flick is finally getting a deluxe American release on bluray in a few months:

https://tinyurl.com/y7v2vyhe

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 13, 2018 08:16 PM (eMKNe)

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Ha. That's where all the Hitler videos come from, isnt it?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Space Pirate Herbophile at January 13, 2018 08:19 PM (ks6bw)

318 @301 Speaking of subtitled/dubbed movies, this flick is finally getting a deluxe American release on bluray in a few months:

https://tinyurl.com/y7v2vyhe
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Dubbed!? After Internet Hitler, it should be deemed culturally impermissible to release that thing in any spoken language other than German.

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:20 PM (zGswo)

319 316 I don't mind tentacle rape hentai as long as it's tastefully done.
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 13, 2018 08:19 PM (NWiLs)

Yeah all eight at the same time may be a little much.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 08:20 PM (2DOZq)

320 Moron, yup!

There will probably be a Hitler spoof of the new re-release of the bluray itself... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 13, 2018 08:21 PM (eMKNe)

321 Doesn't that guy from Newsweek translate tentacle porn?

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 08:21 PM (nBr1j)

322 My main issue with dub vs sub revolves around 3 features.
1. Authenticity of dubscript; were liberties taken, was "localization" used, etc. Making the dubbed cast sound more "American" makes no sense for either Akira or A Fist Full of Dollars.
2. Attention to production. Does the dub tract just feel tossed in and isolated from the rest of the audio? Is the dub professionally recorded or in a tiny studio that comes across like a miced closet?
3. The voice talent, which can vary a great deal, both in recruitment, rehearsal, and effort. The Studio Ghibli films released by Buena Vista could afford top-level actors who could-and did-give great work. Many of the starter companies from the early days of anime seemed to have hired college students or friends and family of the producer to read the script on a single take.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 13, 2018 08:22 PM (W+kMI)

323 Sorry Grammie Winger, but I just ran out and trademarked "The Herbophile" for my new THC merchandise store. 10% off for new purchases, btw....

Posted by: MSTisdale at January 13, 2018 08:22 PM (xHVD5)

324 Might be first time I saw a shooter wear ear protection in a movie

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 08:23 PM (aC6Sd)

325 That's a bloody outrage, it is! I'm calling the Prime minister...
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That's a Bootable offence!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 13, 2018 08:23 PM (QCX64)

326 I don't know every language of every film I've seen, so I have to rely on translations ..
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'What's Up Tiger Lily' might be confusing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 13, 2018 08:23 PM (5OO3x)

327 Yeah all eight at the same time may be a little much.
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January

yo mean tentacles or octopusses?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:24 PM (MTjB1)

328 I watched Bullitt for the umpteenth time not long ago

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 08:24 PM (aC6Sd)

329 That's a Bootable offence!
Posted by: andycanuck at January

how long are you going to leave him in there?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:24 PM (MTjB1)

330 Junior, LOL.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 13, 2018 08:24 PM (eMKNe)

331 325 That's a bloody outrage, it is! I'm calling the Prime minister...
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That's a Bootable offence!
Posted by: andycanuck at January 13, 2018 08:23 PM (QCX64)

By George it means a letter to the Times. Harrumph!

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 08:25 PM (nBr1j)

332 I'd rather see a dubbed movie, assuming the dubbing is well-done.

Posted by: naturalfake

*******

Agreed. The only subtitled movie I've ever truly enjoyed was Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. That was very well done IMO.

Posted by: MSTisdale at January 13, 2018 08:25 PM (xHVD5)

333 sorry dashes and dots, I went to watch Black Books for a minute and didn't come back til now. here's a link

https://tinyurl.com/ycrxc5ye
Posted by: booknlass at January

Thanks!

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:25 PM (MTjB1)

334 What's with all the mourning and penance?
Posted by: Insomniac - mostly stable at January 13, 2018 07:57 PM

We're hoping never to see Naked Pasty Dude On An Ottoman again.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 13, 2018 08:25 PM (agg2m)

335 I've never seen the Hitler movie and it looks like it's fairly well thought out and performed, so I'll probably try to track it down.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Space Pirate Herbophile at January 13, 2018 08:26 PM (ks6bw)

336 'What's Up Tiger Lily' might be confusing.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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heh. 300 comments too late.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 13, 2018 08:26 PM (5OO3x)

337 Herbophile is my new favorite word.
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Your Destruction Is As Easy As Me Claiming You Said ____ at January 13, 2018 07:45 PM (ks6bw)

It comes with a song which I just found. Foreign from 1982 (guess the shithole?) and no subtitles or dubs. as far as I know but some (Ace or Bander

may translate.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O0JHnev_A6k

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 08:26 PM (g4lFK)

338 Moron, me too.

I have Downfall, but it's a foreign-release bluray.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 13, 2018 08:26 PM (eMKNe)

339 I don't know every language of every film I've seen, so I have to rely on translations ..

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For a visual medium, like movies, it is amazing just how much contribution the dialog makes, and it always amazes me to watch/listen to how an actor uses voice to embellish the movie.

Really good acting requires command of the character's speaking voice. Now add in really good body language like in 'V for Vendetta'.

Posted by: Andrew Chin at January 13, 2018 08:27 PM (GroCc)

340 289
The original Mad Max had a short run in the US -- with dubbed American voices in place of the Aussies.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 13, 2018 08:13 PM (pV/54)

*blinks*

That's stupid. Everybody knows that Aussies speak English, or a close approximation.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2018 08:27 PM (sdi6R)

341 Turns out the second part is probably easier than the first nowadays.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Space Pirate Herbophile at January 13, 2018 08:03 PM

Yes. A couple years ago, I had to ask our tech lady to unblock a research site because it was blocked due to "religion". I asked why I couldn't reach the Christian Science Monitor and a colleague couldn't find out the local yoga studio's schedule because "religion" is blocked, but our students could access porn.

"Because porn wants to be found," he said.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 13, 2018 08:28 PM (G8B7r)

342 OK, time to start talking about Tide laundry detergent pods.

Teens are eating laundry detergent pods in hazardous internet challenge

A dangerous new internet challenge has teens filming themselves while they eat Tide laundry detergent pods. Social media videos show teens gagging and spitting out detergent as they bite into the pods. Other videos show the colorful orange and blue pods cooking in a frying pan and being served up as cereal or a pizza topping.

What are the risks?

Eating a laundry pod is a hazardous stunt that can cause diarrhea, vomiting, a trip to the emergency room, or a poison-induced coma, health experts said in published reports.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 08:29 PM (+y/Ru)

343 Has anybody else seen the commercials where Siri doesn't understand Scottish?

Posted by: Northernlurker-ish at January 13, 2018 08:29 PM (nBr1j)

344 Only thing missing if you watch Das Boot is smell, so next time find old socks and put them on either side of your chair and a open can of oil and diesel fuel on either side.

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 08:29 PM (aC6Sd)

345 Thanks for ruining my dinner plans Anonosaurus! :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 13, 2018 08:29 PM (eMKNe)

346 A'vlle Robt. - Winter's baaack. Today the doors of my truck were frozen closed. Took lots of hot water to get them free. Apparently the seals got wet during the rain earlier yesterday, and froze solidly overnight. Also, windows frozen shut, would not operate.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 13, 2018 08:30 PM (y3sT9)

347 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O0JHnev_A6k

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 08:26 PM (g4lFK)

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Okay, it's worth it if for no other reason than him screaming "THIS IS HERBOPHILE!" at the one minute mark.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Space Pirate Herbophile at January 13, 2018 08:31 PM (ks6bw)

348 I'm in tears over here and my sides have punched through the fabric of space and time and have entered a parallel universe.

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 08:31 PM (g4lFK)

349 342
Eating a laundry pod is a hazardous stunt that can cause diarrhea, vomiting, a trip to the emergency room, or a poison-induced coma, health experts said in published reports.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 08:29 PM (+y/Ru)

I don't see the problem.

Posted by: Zombie Charles Darwin at January 13, 2018 08:31 PM (sdi6R)

350 Oh! I almost forgot I have a carrot cake cupcake in the fridge. It's party time!

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 08:31 PM (w+Jhj)

351 OK, time to start talking about Tide laundry detergent pods.

Teens are eating laundry detergent pods in hazardous internet challenge

A dangerous new internet challenge has teens filming themselves while they eat Tide laundry detergent pods. Social media videos show teens gagging and spitting out detergent as they bite into the pods. Other videos show the colorful orange and blue pods cooking in a frying pan and being served up as cereal or a pizza topping.

What are the risks?

Eating a laundry pod is a hazardous stunt that can cause diarrhea, vomiting, a trip to the emergency room, or a poison-induced coma, health experts said in published reports.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January

well suppose that is better than lighting themselves on fire like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNJDe85DyBI

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:32 PM (MTjB1)

352 There are English language speakers in Scotland that might need subtitles to be understood to the rest of us

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 08:32 PM (aC6Sd)

353 I'd imagine that on an old diesel sub, the smell of farts and shit would pileup, along with the odour of many men who couldn't properly shower for weeks on end, all packed into two subway cars worth of living space.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 13, 2018 08:32 PM (pV/54)

354 Do you think we could get some Hollywood stars to take the Tide pod challenge? Convince them it's like that Gatorade ice bucket challenge for some kind of "awareness" from a few years back.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2018 08:32 PM (IqV8l)

355 well enough to know that I'll watch pretty much anything that calls itself a movie

YA THINK?! I admire the effort and passion you put into these threads. You really love this stuff.

Posted by: t-bird at January 13, 2018 08:32 PM (cW490)

356 I'll take subtitles over voice-over any day, and I was one of those youngsters who loved those wacky martial arts movies with the horrible dubbing.

Posted by: Fritz at January 13, 2018 08:33 PM (bJ0w+)

357 Watching the golf tournament in Honolulu. They were talking about what the players did when the emergency alert was issued. A number of them called home to say goodbye and advise family members where certain important items were located, one put his family in the bath tub and covered it with the mattresses. Another put his family in the car and tried to drive as far away as he could from the city ( uh not a lot of distance to be had) . I wondered whether anyone called to see if this was being reported on the mainland.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 08:33 PM (2DOZq)

358 find old socks and put them on either side of your chair and a open can of oil and diesel fuel on either side.

Posted by: Skip

* * * * *

And a spritz of B.O. for the bunk scenes.

Posted by: MSTisdale at January 13, 2018 08:33 PM (xHVD5)

359 278 This one can really aggravate me. A lot of Japanese scripts are very clean (in part due to not really having a counterpart to much of our profanity) and someone in the translation process decides to add it in. It's makes sense to some extent, maybe that salty old vet should be swearing like a sailor. Sometimes though, the most straight-laced, goody two-shoes will start using the foulest language imaginable, added to the script only because some translator was raised in a barn and thinks it's normal speech.

It can be very common in fan translations too. Apparently it's not English unless everyone speaks like they're in a Tarintino film.
Posted by: Sjg at January

something peculiar about a country that makes tentacle rape porn where no one uses profanity.
========
It is not that Japan does not have profane or insulting speech, it is just not used very often in the same manner or context as American speech. Properly raised Japanese people do not use such words in a conversation. Profanity is relegated to criminals, the demented, or the overly excited. (You know, like American films and TV shows used to be written.) Usually when the Japanese wish to insult each other they deliberately use a more casual form of address than is proper. Certain things are more likely to trigger in a casual context. If I told a Japanese man to go die in a fire, he would be shocked and offended, since I had wished such a thing on him. Japanese go out of their way to avoid "die" or "death" in non-relevant conversation due to it bringing bad luck. I was rebuked in my university Japanese class for using the word for "die" in a non-contextual status.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 13, 2018 08:33 PM (W+kMI)

360 I'd imagine that on an old diesel sub, the smell of farts and shit would pileup, along with the odour of many men who couldn't properly shower for weeks on end, all packed into two subway cars worth of living space.

What's your point?

Posted by: The Village People at January 13, 2018 08:34 PM (c8EhQ)

361 Evangelion (or NGE for short) is one of those series that has lots of symbolism... that's largely just there because the writer thought it would look cool. In this case, it's western religious symbolism being used in largely the same fashion that western fiction writers often use eastern religious symbolism. Lots of people love it.

I am not one of those people. I watched 2 (or maybe 4) episodes, and walked away. Couldn't stand it. But a lot of people raved about it back in the day (and quite possibly still do).

It's also worth noting that the guy who created it, Hideo Anno, was in the middle of a battle with depression when he wrote it. Later, after he'd gotten better, he went back and rewrote parts of it, which were released as "Rebuild of Evangelion" movies.
Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:17 PM

I couldn't watch it. On the other hand, I liked the pre-Columbian religious imagery used in Rahxephon, which has similar themes and came out years later.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 13, 2018 08:34 PM (G8B7r)

362 I was taught movies are around 80% visual, 20% audial content.

Posted by: pogomip at January 13, 2018 08:34 PM (of38q)

363 There are English language speakers

---

Rapid fire Cockney slang

is a foreign language

Posted by: Andrew Chin at January 13, 2018 08:34 PM (GroCc)

364 It was supposed to be from WW1 Vickers machine-guns' ammo belts but it's mistaken but I've forgotten what the real source of "the whole nine yards" is. You can probably find it through Bing.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 13, 2018 08:34 PM (QCX64)

365 "A'vlle Robt. - Winter's baaack. Today the doors of
my truck were frozen closed. Took lots of hot water to get them free.
Apparently the seals got wet during the rain earlier yesterday, and
froze solidly overnight. Also, windows frozen shut, would not operate.

Posted by: Mike Hammer"

I was able to pry the door open of my car. Unfortunately, some time yesterday the windshield decided to form a crack in it. There's no mark on the outside of the glass so nothing hit it. I need to contact my insurance to see if it's covered.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 08:34 PM (w+Jhj)

366 *blinks*

That's stupid. Everybody knows that Aussies speak English, or a close approximation.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2018 08:27 PM

IIRC, it was not a ridiculous call, as far as the studios involved were concerned. At the time, it was felt that with the original voices, it would be viewed as a weird foreign flick by potential ticket buyers. The 70's wasn't a time to risk a potential blockbuster, or something. I could be wrong though. It was a long time ago.

Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 08:35 PM (qGuLD)

367 Can't get my kids to eat anything I cook (and I'm a very good cook), and then they eat laundry detergent by choice.

Sounds about right.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Space Pirate Herbophile at January 13, 2018 08:35 PM (ks6bw)

368 342
Eating a laundry pod is a hazardous stunt that can cause diarrhea, vomiting, a trip to the emergency room, or a poison-induced coma, health experts said in published reports.

Pro tip: they go down easier when they've been soaking in gin.

Posted by: Hillary! at January 13, 2018 08:36 PM (cW490)

369 Movie that will be out on DVD in February:
'Steve McQueen - American Icon'

The lovely Mrs. texcat and I saw it in October, during the limited release. Highly recommended for the Horde- especially if you are from the era or if you care about good, faith-based movies!

Here's the website for the movie for those interested:
https://tinyurl.com/yb4qt9m2

Posted by: texcat at January 13, 2018 08:36 PM (wf3RQ)

370 @361 I couldn't watch it. On the other hand, I liked the pre-Columbian religious imagery used in Rahxephon, which has similar themes and came out years later.
--------------------

Same. Loved Rahxephon, which I thought was particularly well-thought out. That's why I own the discs.

It probably helped that it wasn't written by a depressed guy.

I've also got the "Tenchi Muyo meets Envangelion" series Dual!, which is pretty funny.

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:36 PM (zGswo)

371 316 I don't mind tentacle rape hentai as long as it's tastefully done.
==
Y'know Insomniac, that word "tasteful" invalidates the statement as fundamentally untrue.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 13, 2018 08:36 PM (W+kMI)

372 Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 08:34 PM (w+Jhj)

You probably have glass coverage . It's usually standard on auto policies. No deductible on repairs. Small deductible on replacement.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 08:37 PM (2DOZq)

373 It is not that Japan does not have profane or insulting speech, it is just not used very often in the same manner or context as American speech. Properly raised Japanese people do not use such words in a conversation. Profanity is relegated to criminals, the demented, or the overly excited. (You know, like American films and TV shows used to be written.) Usually when the Japanese wish to insult each other they deliberately use a more casual form of address than is proper. Certain things are more likely to trigger in a casual context. If I told a Japanese man to go die in a fire, he would be shocked and offended, since I had wished such a thing on him. Japanese go out of their way to avoid "die" or "death" in non-relevant conversation due to it bringing bad luck. I was rebuked in my university Japanese class for using the word for "die" in a non-contextual status.
Posted by: exdem13 at January

well, maybe if they go a little stress release by cussing like sailors they would quit the violence of eating and cooking things alive and people.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:38 PM (MTjB1)

374 Y'know Insomniac, that word "tasteful" invalidates the statement as fundamentally untrue.
Posted by: exdem13 at January

yeah, ocotpusses do not have a sense of taste.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:39 PM (MTjB1)

375 "You probably have glass coverage . It's usually
standard on auto policies. No deductible on repairs. Small deductible
on replacement.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol"

It might be repairable. I'll have to check with 'em after the long weekend.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 08:39 PM (w+Jhj)

376 Pro tip: they go down easier when they've been soaking in gin.
Posted by: Hillary! at January 13, 2018 08:36 PM (cW490)

Don't forget the splash of Downey, hon.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 13, 2018 08:39 PM (c8EhQ)

377 I need to contact my insurance to see if it's covered.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert

If the crack is smaller than a dollar bill: Nope.

- Insurance Co.

Posted by: pogomip at January 13, 2018 08:39 PM (of38q)

378 Regional accents are losing their edge the world over, because everyone hears mass media with scrubbed accents.

But the Aussies in Mad Max can lose in translation, as it was low budget and filmed with locals.

We can all understand someone fro Dublin, but try a farmer from Cork or Kerry.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 13, 2018 08:39 PM (pV/54)

379 Regional accents are losing their edge the world over, because everyone hears mass media with scrubbed accents.

good

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:40 PM (MTjB1)

380 Heathers is a classic.

"I love my dead gay son!"

Posted by: logprof at January 13, 2018 08:41 PM (CTza7)

381 354 Do you think we could get some Hollywood stars to take the Tide pod challenge? Convince them it's like that Gatorade ice bucket challenge for some kind of "awareness" from a few years back.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2018 08:32 PM (IqV8l)

++++

Would it count if I stuffed a few up my vag?

Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at January 13, 2018 08:41 PM (FUu/Z)

382 "t is not that Japan does not have profane or insulting speech, it is
just not used very often in the same manner or context as American
speech. Properly raised Japanese people do not use such words in a
conversation."

You've not met my wife then....

I keep telling her that she's not using the words correctly (think Spock in Star Trek where they save the whales).

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 08:42 PM (w+Jhj)

383 Who Killed Captain Alex?
Subtitles? Check
Filmed in a shithole? Check

https://youtu.be/KEoGrbKAyKE

And a surprisingly entertaining flick.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 13, 2018 08:42 PM (fA1SL)

384 I've also got the "Tenchi Muyo meets Envangelion" series Dual!, which is pretty funny.
Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:36 PM

Have not seen. I liked Tenchi Muyo.... or at least some of it. That's the only problem when each iteration shifts until you get Pretty Sammy.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 13, 2018 08:42 PM (G8B7r)

385 b la ze r' s name is a killing word.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at January 13, 2018 08:42 PM (mPzB+)

386 No one yet has talked much about English-to-other dubbing, both for entertainment productions or commercials. I have seen a Japanese commercial for soba noodles featuring The Governator, and I thought his dubover voice to be both correct and having better diction. And there is truly nothing in the world like watching a Japanese dub of "Little House on the Prarie".

Posted by: exdem13 at January 13, 2018 08:43 PM (W+kMI)

387 about the cracked window: I found that part of my truck payment was a nice dings and scratches package, where they will repair cracks for free.

my tailgate wouldn't open yesterday to do the mail until I sprayed it with deicer three times and wiggled it mightily.

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2018 08:43 PM (J6xuH)

388 "If the crack is smaller than a dollar bill: Nope.

- Insurance Co.

Posted by: pogomip"

I can fix that....

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 08:43 PM (w+Jhj)

389 Heathers is a classic.

"I love my dead gay son!"
Posted by: logprof at January 13, 2018 08:41 PM

"I wonder how he'd react to a son who had a limp wrist with a pulse."

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 13, 2018 08:43 PM (agg2m)

390 Das Boobs ...absolute brilliance !!! SCTV beat the shit out of SNL

Posted by: Qmark at January 13, 2018 08:43 PM (kGp9T)

391 hi!

i'm redc1c4, and i'm a moron....

last weekend (IIRC) there was a thread that drifted off to include an 800 number for Amazon Customer Service. a couple of you with search-fu found it for me, but, being a moron, i didn't write it down immediately, or even bookmark it.

now i can't find the thread or poasts, having looked at the ends of the threads i thought most likely.

would someone with the mad skillz kindly take pity on my dumb ass again?

i've no free USB ports to pour alcohol in, but if you're ever in Lost Angels, i'll take you shooting and break out the kewl ones for you to try.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 13, 2018 08:44 PM (RcZfi)

392
Two movies that were briefly mentioned in passing in the comments (back in May) and never mentioned again.

Found them both on youtube.
First 'Predestination' (2014). You don't want to research what this one is about. Just go into it cold and watch the actors as they tell their life stories. Very good acting and they draw you into the story.

The other is "Ex Machina". The lead character gives off a villainous feeling, and there are a lot of mind games being played.

Posted by: Andrew Chin at January 13, 2018 08:45 PM (GroCc)

393 Finally getting to see a bucket-list film that's received rave reviews for years. "Get Carter" with Michael Caine.

This topic has me concerned. As it's a Brit film, I hope I'll be able to understand it.

Oh, for great theme music: "Barney Miller." I just love that show. Wish I could find it.

Another great theme is from a radio show, "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar." Very lush. I'm hunting for more episodes.

And, yes, for great music overall, "Cowboy Bebop" stands out. That end title music evokes such a sense of melancholy.

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 13, 2018 08:45 PM (G+J43)

394 I need to contact my insurance to see if it's covered.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
-----------

However you go about it, be certain that the glass used is OEM. Aftermarket stuff is likely to be softer and more prone to fine nicks. I speak from personal experience.

Also, as an aside, did you know that the condition of the windshield is not an item on the safety inspection checklist?

Also, amusing, when I got to the Weatherunderground site, it decides that my location is 'Lee Walker Hots'. I've thought about dropping them a note about the name, but it's too just amusing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 13, 2018 08:45 PM (9tO1t)

395 Would it count if I stuffed a few up my vag?
Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at January 13, 2018 08:41 PM (FUu/Z)

Be sure to use the low-foaming formula or you'll end up looking like a rabid badger.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 13, 2018 08:45 PM (c8EhQ)

396 new jumanji was lame, imo. reminded me of Ferrell' s land of the lost.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at January 13, 2018 08:46 PM (mPzB+)

397 Two movies that were briefly mentioned in passing in the comments (back in May) and never mentioned again.

Found them both on youtube.
First 'Predestination' (2014). You don't want to research what this one is about. Just go into it cold and watch the actors as they tell their life stories. Very good acting and they draw you into the story.

The other is "Ex Machina". The lead character gives off a villainous feeling, and there are a lot of mind games being played.

Posted by: Andrew Chin at January 13, 2018 08:45 PM

Predestination is a fantastic low budget scifi movie.

Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 08:46 PM (qGuLD)

398 Another great theme is from a radio show, "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar." Very lush. I'm hunting for more episodes.

And, yes, for great music overall, "Cowboy Bebop" stands out. That end title music evokes such a sense of melancholy.

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 13, 2018 08:45 PM

archive.org has a flaming metric shit tonne of Johnny Dollar episodes

search archive for "Old Time Radio" or "OTRR"

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 13, 2018 08:47 PM (KCxzN)

399 Predictably, Hillary called Trump a racist over Haiti, while Bill was denying that the Clinton Foundation diverted funds meant for Haitian relief to pay for Chelsea's wedding, something confirmed in Podesta's leaked e-mails.

You can't make this up.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 13, 2018 08:48 PM (pV/54)

400 "No one yet has talked much about English-to-other
dubbing, both for entertainment productions or commercials. I have seen a
Japanese commercial for soba noodles featuring The Governator, and I
thought his dubover voice to be both correct and having better diction.
And there is truly nothing in the world like watching a Japanese dub of
"Little House on the Prarie".

Posted by: exdem13"

There's several actors that'll do Japanese commercials, but they won't do them in the US. Ahnold is one. Tommy Lee Jones is another.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 08:48 PM (w+Jhj)

401 Weak Geek, Internet Archive has episodes of Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar. here's a link:

https://tinyurl.com/ychpcgnu

Posted by: booknlass at January 13, 2018 08:48 PM (J6xuH)

402 @384 Have not seen. I liked Tenchi Muyo.... or at least some of it. That's the only problem when each iteration shifts until you get Pretty Sammy.
-----------------

Dual! isn't directly connected to Tenchi. None of the Tenchi characters appear in Dual! (aside from a blink and you'll miss it cameo at the very end). The link is that -

1.) It's by the same guy (Kajishima) who does the Tenchi OVA stuff, and
2.) It's a harem series

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:48 PM (zGswo)

403 First 'Predestination' (2014). You don't want to research what this one is about. Just go into it cold and watch the actors as they tell their life stories. Very good acting and they draw you into the story.

Posted by: Andrew Chin at January 13, 2018 08:45 PM (GroCc)

"Predestination" has one of the most unique story lines that I've ever seen. It is a good movie.

Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at January 13, 2018 08:49 PM (T71PA)

404

Also with Predestination, skip the cold opening and start at the title credits. Too much given away in the opener. The more confusion and WTF the better with that movie.

Posted by: otho at January 13, 2018 08:49 PM (qGuLD)

405 new jumanji was lame,

I didn't like the old jumanji. Don't like scary movies.

Posted by: Andrew Chin at January 13, 2018 08:50 PM (GroCc)

406
Oh, for great theme music: "Barney Miller." I just love that show. Wish I could find it.

It's on AntennaTV if you have an affiliate in your area.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2018 08:50 PM (IqV8l)

407 Liberty Unyielding- Chelsea Manning filed to run for the Senate in Maryland
In the Confused Gender party I guess

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 08:50 PM (aC6Sd)

408 "There's several actors that'll do Japanese commercials, but they won't do them in the US"

A plot point in Lost In Translation. Why Bill Murray is in Japan.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 13, 2018 08:51 PM (pV/54)

409 Ethan Hawke does pretty good sci-fi/ horror films.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 13, 2018 08:51 PM (2DOZq)

410 Another great theme is from a radio show, "Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar." Very lush. I'm hunting for more episodes.
------------

That was my favorite radio show that I listened to on my grandmother's Tombstone Zenith.

The genre is what?...Insurance Adjuster Detective.

"Cab ride downtown, $1.50"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 13, 2018 08:52 PM (5OO3x)

411 I was taught movies are around 80% visual, 20% audial content.

Posted by: pogomip at January 13, 2018 08:34 PM (of38q)

Really? No wonder my movies suck.

Posted by: Quentin T. at January 13, 2018 08:52 PM (sXefu)

412 I'm being to think Moloch, Jaboo, Ishtar, and the rest have cursed Sports teams from Georgia. That whiff from Julio Jones on a soft floater was painful to watch, yet I laughed because it was pathetic. I don't think the ball even grazed his hands.

SMFH

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 08:53 PM (g4lFK)

413 Eating a laundry pod is a hazardous stunt that can
cause diarrhea, vomiting, a trip to the emergency room, or a
poison-induced coma, health experts said in published reports.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 08:29 PM (+y/Ru)

You have a problem with the terminally stupid self-selecting themselves out of the gene pool?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 13, 2018 08:53 PM (sD2WN)

414 @393 And, yes, for great music overall, "Cowboy Bebop" stands out. That end title music evokes such a sense of melancholy.
-----------------

Yoko Kano is extremely talented.

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:53 PM (zGswo)

415 Gateway Pundit - in response to Clintons Haiti comment James Woods "You looted Haiti like a peg-leg pirate"

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 08:53 PM (aC6Sd)

416
You have a problem with the terminally stupid self-selecting themselves out of the gene pool?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Maybe they're "creating awareness" of the need for single payer.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2018 08:55 PM (IqV8l)

417 You have a problem with the terminally stupid self-selecting themselves out of the gene pool?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

SO you're saying we should all be sending laundry pods to the Biden clan?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at January 13, 2018 08:55 PM (5wCUq)

418 I need to catch up on Cowboy Beebop, saw many but not in order on tv years ago, it can be found on the web

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 08:55 PM (aC6Sd)

419 I think the pod-eating is just a joke. My students told me that they were obviously photo shopped except for a real idiot who decided To smoke one.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 13, 2018 08:55 PM (G8B7r)

420 @407 Liberty Unyielding- Chelsea Manning filed to run for the Senate in Maryland
----------------

Saw that.

Interesting to think, though, that while the blue elites will probably fall all over themselves to vote for Manning, the various racial minority groups... won't.

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:56 PM (zGswo)

421 "No one yet has talked much about English-to-other
dubbing,
-----------

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Andi McDowell, dubbed completely out of Greystoke at January 13, 2018 08:56 PM (5OO3x)

422 you know, as television theme songs go,how many would be good song only?

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:56 PM (MTjB1)

423 418 I need to catch up on Cowboy Beebop, saw many but not in order on tv years ago, it can be found on the web
Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 08:55 PM

And between eps 22 & 23, watch the movie, which is very good.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 13, 2018 08:57 PM (G8B7r)

424 This was a blog post over on CDR Salamander, I don't know the commenter, recommend what he said:

The "A Room with a View" channel on YouTube has some Meet the Press episodes for the 50's and 60's. They are stark contrast to last Sunday's show. Sad really.

Posted by: Jean at January 13, 2018 08:58 PM (0FreZ)

425 And remember your Japanese business etiquette and when someone presents you with his business card, you're to rub it against your crotch then put it into your wallet and then put it down your butt crack.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 13, 2018 08:58 PM (QCX64)

426 382 "t is not that Japan does not have profane or insulting speech, it is
just not used very often in the same manner or context as American
speech. Properly raised Japanese people do not use such words in a
conversation."

You've not met my wife then....

I keep telling her that she's not using the words correctly (think Spock in Star Trek where they save the whales).
========
The ability-or inability-for Japanese people to use English profanity is an entirely different topic!!

One could make an entire anime clipshow on it.

Posted by: exdem13 at January 13, 2018 08:58 PM (W+kMI)

427 Gateway Pundit - in response to Clintons Haiti comment James Woods "You looted Haiti like a peg-leg pirate"
Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 08:53 PM (aC6Sd)

--James Woods is awesome.

Epic troll fu.

Posted by: logprof at January 13, 2018 08:58 PM (CTza7)

428 I was taught movies are around 80% visual, 20% audial content.

-
Yeah, you can only hear, "Please, Mr. Plumber, we three young college coeds have no money but we have a leak. Couldn't we pay you for laying some pipe some other way?" so many times.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 08:58 PM (+y/Ru)

429 @418 I need to catch up on Cowboy Beebop, saw many but not in order on tv years ago, it can be found on the web
-----------------

About half of the episodes are, well, episodic. The only reason to know where those episodes are in the order is if you need to know whether, say, Radical Edward is currently on the ship.

Most of the rest do fairly well stand-alone, but still contribute to the overall story.

I think my favorite episode is the one in which they go spelunking for a video tape player.

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:58 PM (zGswo)

430 Gateway Pundit - in response to Clintons Haiti comment James Woods "You looted Haiti like a peg-leg pirate"
Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 08:53 PM (aC6

Would love to hear him and Trump off their leashes for 30 minutes uncut. Throw in Dennis Miller and make it a pay per view.

He'll James Woods and Dennis Miller could tour the country for a hour or so set and it would sell out. I'd pay 100 bucks to see that action.

Posted by: Monk at January 13, 2018 08:59 PM (g4lFK)

431 Rawhide

Posted by: grammie winger - How many days till Spring Training? at January 13, 2018 08:59 PM (lwiT4)

432 In the Confused Gender party I guess

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 08:50 PM (aC6Sd)

L'il Brad isn't confused; just very, very wrong.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 13, 2018 09:01 PM (sD2WN)

433 Yoko Kano is extremely talented.
Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 08:53 PM

She's also not adverse to elaborating on another music style. I thought it was interesting that she came to the US to study jazz in New Orleans.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 13, 2018 09:02 PM (G8B7r)

434 "If the crack is smaller than a dollar bill: Nope.
- Insurance Co.
Posted by: pogomip"

I can fix that....
Posted by: AshevilleRobert

In hailstorm country, that's the rule for a replacement vs a 'repair'.

Posted by: pogomip at January 13, 2018 09:02 PM (of38q)

435 Rawhide
Posted by: grammie winger - How many days till Spring Training? at January 13, 2018 08:59 PM (lwiT4)

See your Rawhide and raise you a Bonanza.

Posted by: texcat at January 13, 2018 09:02 PM (wf3RQ)

436 you know, as television theme songs go,how many would be good song only?
Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 13, 2018 08:56 PM (MTjB1)

--Not sure what you mean.

Best non-original themes IMHO:

Tour of Duty

House M.D.

The Wire (Season 2, the original Tom Waits version)

The Sopranos

Posted by: logprof at January 13, 2018 09:02 PM (CTza7)

437 Hill Street Blues had a nice theme song.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 13, 2018 09:03 PM (eMKNe)

438 Rawhide
Posted by: grammie winger - How many days till Spring Training?

https://youtu.be/RdR6MN2jKYs

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at January 13, 2018 09:03 PM (5wCUq)

439 The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly was expanded in the early 2000s. Scenes were added in that had not been originally seen in the US version so they were never dubbed in English when the film was made. Eli Wallach and Clint Eastwood came back and read the dialogue. Wallach was around 90 at the time so you can really tell the difference in the scenes.

Posted by: mark1971 at January 13, 2018 09:03 PM (xPl2J)

440 Also one of the all-time best themes was the hard rock song played over ending credits on WKRP.

Wiki says it was deliberately written to sound unintelligible, because the producers knew CBS would always interrupt the song for voice-over promos for other shows anyway (which is true, they always did back then).

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 13, 2018 09:05 PM (eMKNe)

441 you know, as television theme songs go,how many would be good song only?
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The theme for 'Mighty Mouse', duh.

Posted by: Andy Kaufman at January 13, 2018 09:05 PM (w1zJX)

442 mark1971, yup. This came out not very long ago:

https://tinyurl.com/ybqx6v9k

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 13, 2018 09:06 PM (eMKNe)

443 Car chase in Bullitt is just starting

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 09:06 PM (aC6Sd)

444
The "A Room with a View" channel on YouTube has some Meet the Press episodes for the 50's and 60's. They are stark contrast to last Sunday's show. Sad really.
Posted by: Jean at January 13, 2018 08:58 PM

As are the 50's and 60's themselves.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2018 09:07 PM (IqV8l)

445 Have a good night, 'Rons and 'Ronettes. I'm going to hit the hay.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 13, 2018 09:07 PM (G8B7r)

446 you know, as television theme songs go,how many would be good song only?
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The Japanese will often hire a band to create and perform a song as the opening and/or closing theme of animated TV series.

In two Gundam series (SEED, and its sequel -50 episodes each, where they replaced the ending theme song every dozen or so episodes), they also brought the lead singer from each group in as the voice actor for a supporting character... who would then be killed off after a few episodes.

The only one of the supporting characters who survived was a character who's would-be voice actor declined the opportunity. Apparently the character appeared once or twice, but had no speaking lines, and survived as a result.

Posted by: junior at January 13, 2018 09:07 PM (zGswo)

447 414 @393 And, yes, for great music overall, "Cowboy Bebop" stands out. That end title music evokes such a sense of melancholy.
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Yoko Kano is extremely talented.
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In the hopes of getting some more love for this top-ranked anime and its music. First is "Tank" the OP. Second is "The Real Folk Blues" ED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2rVnRwW0h8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyI635o2pmk

Posted by: exdem13 at January 13, 2018 09:07 PM (W+kMI)

448 390 Das Boobs ...absolute brilliance !!! SCTV beat the shit out of SNL
Posted by: Qmark at January 13, 2018 08:43 PM (kGp9T)

I just watched that. I never saw it before.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2018 09:08 PM (sdi6R)

449 The Tudors (season 2):
https://youtu.be/CRTrYMqjPPI

The Borgias:
https://youtu.be/VPSGckN_vP0

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at January 13, 2018 09:08 PM (5wCUq)

450 Car chase in Bullitt is just starting
Posted by: Skip
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Next up: Four broken shock mounts on the Charger.

Also: Poor axle control on Mustang.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 13, 2018 09:09 PM (w1zJX)

451 "Barney Miller." I just love that show. Wish I could find it.
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CW11 in Seattle has two episodes on every Saturday if your carrier has it. It's so old that it doesn't have closed captioning. Love it.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 13, 2018 09:09 PM (QCX64)

452 Hogan's Heroes

Not a song but great tune.

Posted by: texcat at January 13, 2018 09:09 PM (wf3RQ)

453 See your Rawhide and raise you a Bonanza.

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My four footed best friend is named Doongara. I've been known to sing to the tune of Bonanza 'Doon doon da doon do da doon do da doon Doongara! " I've done something similar with my daughter's name and the Flinstones theme.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 13, 2018 09:09 PM (+y/Ru)

454 My little boy kept wanting to hear the opening song to the second "Slayers" series over and over in the car today. Probably about a dozen times.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at January 13, 2018 09:10 PM (w+Jhj)

455 I absolutely hate dubs and I use subtitles on everything, including English language media. For animation, I pretty much can't stand English speaking voice actors anyway, so I prefer original language there, too. Wish I could find some of the anime from Toonami in subbed format. I always hated the English voices on those. Although, Sailor Moon is annoying no matter who voices her...

Posted by: soulpile at January 13, 2018 09:10 PM (73HcQ)

456

Route 66

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 13, 2018 09:10 PM (IqV8l)

457 I prefer subtitles for the Naruto anime, because they went the "cartoony" route with the English voices.

I like the English speaking actors for Cowboy Bebop and Princess Mononoke though.

Posted by: goodluckduck at January 13, 2018 09:11 PM (V8zw+)

458 I do many tv theme songs, Combat, Hogan's Heros, Wild Wild West, Rat Patol, Mission Impossible

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 09:12 PM (aC6Sd)

459 Beverly Hillbillies

Posted by: texcat at January 13, 2018 09:14 PM (wf3RQ)

460 With all due respect, this is kind of nuts.

Of course subtitles are better.

Ever seen any Bunuel films? The Milky Way or the Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie?

Would you want to *not* hear the original actors voices?

Yes, there's the disadvantage of looking down at the subtitles, but once you watch the films several times, that's no longer an issue.

Same with 8 1/2. It would be an abomination to hear that dubbed.

The only way you get the "full effect" is by hearing the original speech. If you settle for dubbing you're forever deprived of that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 13, 2018 09:14 PM (/qEW2)

461 Woo hoo!! Thank you, everybody!

I started my interest in radio shows when I had a gawdawful long (to me, anyway) commute to a job. Got tired of Hannity and began checking out music CDs from the library. That led to radio compilations.

I'm amazed at the variety of shows. And the ads are an extra treat, especially the ones that are topical for the time. A meatpackers' strike in the late '40s? I'd never heard of that. A plea to homemakers during wartime to save their cooking fats and take them to the butcher.

This is how I study history.

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 13, 2018 09:15 PM (G+J43)

462 The theme from The Rockford Files was a charted hit.

Posted by: fluffy at January 13, 2018 09:17 PM (cHbmY)

463 CrunchyRoll has all the Cowboy Beebop episodes, saved it

Posted by: Skip at January 13, 2018 09:17 PM (aC6Sd)

464 Fun fact: The Bobby Troup song "Route 66" was the first song on the first Rolling Stones album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc8_Qs_y-xs

Not to be confused with the TV show theme song.

Posted by: rickl at January 13, 2018 09:17 PM (sdi6R)

465 Never looked up Luis Bunuel. I suspect he's probably a leftist scumball. But he made some really funny, even Pythonesque films.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 13, 2018 09:17 PM (/qEW2)

466 Rawhide
Posted by: grammie winger - How many days till Spring Training? at January 13, 2018 08:59 PM (lwiT4)
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See your Rawhide and raise you a Bonanza.
Posted by: texcat
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Gotta go with grammie on Rawhide.

Posted by: pogomip at January 13, 2018 09:18 PM (of38q)

467 The ability-or inability-for Japanese people to use English profanity is an entirely different topic!! One could make an entire anime clipshow on it.
Posted by: exdem13 at January 13, 2018 08:58 PM (W+kMI)

When a direct analogue doesn't necessarily exist and the words get adopted whole it makes for some amusing results.

Caricatures of Americans drop F-bombs regularly, sometimes even on family friendly timeslots. I'm not sure if this is a result from exposure to Hollywood / music, just proximity to our military bases, or something else. Maybe all of the above.

Some words completely change their meanings, possibly leading to even more confusion if left as is when being translated back to English. Or for the viewer even if it is translated correctly (I clearly heard x, but the subtitle said y)

Posted by: Sjg at January 13, 2018 09:19 PM (gDSJf)

468 Just watched one of my all-time favorites again last night. Don't know why more people don't recognize the comedic brilliance that is Johnny Dangerously.

"You shouldn't hang me on a hook, Johnny. My Mother hung me on a hook once. Once!"

Posted by: Sam Adams at January 13, 2018 09:20 PM (VDbGO)

469 Not the best, but Terriers theme is pretty good:

https://youtu.be/qD8Kh7Pmzho

Posted by: logprof at January 13, 2018 09:21 PM (CTza7)

470 Just caught the legendary car chase scene from Bullitt. Still the best car chase scene ever.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 13, 2018 09:23 PM (dUJdY)

471 Just watched one of my all-time favorites again last night. Don't know why more people don't recognize the comedic brilliance that is Johnny Dangerously.

"You shouldn't hang me on a hook, Johnny. My Mother hung me on a hook once. Once!"
Posted by: Sam Adams

"Did you know your name is an adverb?"

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at January 13, 2018 09:23 PM (5wCUq)

472 I went to see Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon in the theatre. You could hear audible groans from the audience when the subtitles appeared. Also they never got over tittering when the character's flew. Not a good viewing experience.

Posted by: goodluckduck at January 13, 2018 09:28 PM (V8zw+)

473 It's a damn shame that music rights issues keep "WKRP" from being collected with its original soundtrack.

A few years ago, I saw the episode in which Les puts on a toupee for a date with Jennifer. The music was "Hot Blooded" -- perfect for the laughs.

Not for this repeat; it used something soft with a slower beat. Ecch!

Maybe someday somebody will meet all the musicians' estates' asking price.

The previous has to be one of the worst sentences I've ever written. Forgive me, Mrs. Ogburn.

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 13, 2018 09:29 PM (G+J43)

474 I've seen "Bullitt" twice, and the car chase does nothing for me. "Dukes of Hazzard" diet, I guess.

Loved the parody in "The Dead Poil."

Hey! DoH theme!

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 13, 2018 09:36 PM (G+J43)

475 ont

Posted by: andycanuck at January 13, 2018 09:36 PM (QCX64)

476 "The Dead Pool," stupid phone with too-small keys!

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 13, 2018 09:38 PM (G+J43)

477 "it's a mad, mad, mad, mad world" has the greatest car chase sequence in movie history, since it runs the entire length of the movie...

Bullitt will have to settle for second place.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 13, 2018 09:39 PM (RcZfi)

478 467 The ability-or inability-for Japanese people to use English profanity is an entirely different topic!! One could make an entire anime clipshow on it.
Posted by: exdem13 at January 13, 2018 08:58 PM (W+kMI)

When a direct analogue doesn't necessarily exist and the words get adopted whole it makes for some amusing results.

Caricatures of Americans drop F-bombs regularly, sometimes even on family friendly timeslots. I'm not sure if this is a result from exposure to Hollywood / music, just proximity to our military bases, or something else. Maybe all of the above.

Some words completely change their meanings, possibly leading to even more confusion if left as is when being translated back to English. Or for the viewer even if it is translated correctly (I clearly heard x, but the subtitle said y)
Posted by: Sjg at January 13, 2018 09:19 PM (gDSJf)

On engrish.com there's a photo of a little boy in Japan wearing a t-shirt that reads "Grandpa Fucking Space Shuttle."

Posted by: josephistan at January 13, 2018 09:40 PM (ANIFC)

479 "Hill Street Blues had a nice theme song."

Composed by Larry Carlton, a great jazz guitarist who's played on many Steely Dan songs, including Kid Charlemagne.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 13, 2018 09:50 PM (pV/54)

480 Johnny Dangerously
Ma Kelly: We're both fine lookers and neither one of us is Irish.

Posted by: Son of Sam the butcher at January 13, 2018 09:52 PM (VJBq9)

481 370,
"I've also got the "Tenchi Muyo meets Envangelion" series Dual!, which is pretty funny."

Ryoko vs an EVA?

Does Pixy Misa show up?

Posted by: geoffb at January 13, 2018 09:55 PM (zOpu5)

482 447, 414 @393 "And, yes, for great music overall, "Cowboy Bebop" stands out. That end title music evokes such a sense of melancholy."

Agree, I also like the music in episode 5 "Ballad of the Fallen Angels" where Spike fights Vicious.

And the vocal music in "Ghost in the Shell." Heck, I have dozens of anime soundtracks.

Posted by: geoffb at January 13, 2018 10:05 PM (zOpu5)

483 "I think that by this point you all know my tastes relatively well"

um, nope. don't even know who the fuck you are, superstar.

Maybe dial back the arrogance a lot.

Posted by: Huh? at January 13, 2018 10:35 PM (oYlmP)

484 LOVE to see a little love for "The Mummy". One of my favorites.

Posted by: Bookaday at January 13, 2018 10:49 PM (2qDS0)

485 483 "I think that by this point you all know my tastes relatively well"

um, nope. don't even know who the fuck you are, superstar.

Maybe dial back the arrogance a lot.
Posted by: Huh? at January 13, 2018 10:35 PM (oYlmP)

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Da douche has arrived.

Posted by: MAGA at January 13, 2018 11:21 PM (LnOh3)

486 (399) The Clintons rarely disappoint. More material for the book.
Somebody out there has to be finishing writing a book, at an undisclosed location.
Bill really looks like crap: tick, tick, tick....

Posted by: Burger Chef at January 14, 2018 12:54 AM (RuIsu)

487 The Disney dubs stunk when they kept hiring actors and celebrities without inquiring into their voice acting skills, or when they rewrote important bits.

A good dub is a pleasure. It is nice to know that you can get good stuff from the Japanese or English audio, or that each is good in different ways. Log Horizon is a good example of this.

There is a great documentary on Amazon Prime about Italian dubbing actors.

Posted by: suburbanbanshee at January 14, 2018 02:01 AM (sF8WE)

488 Hi, ONT Horde.

Good to see some unfamiliar names, and as always you regulars light up my life.

Thanks for being here. Ah lubs mah Horde.

Posted by: Johnny at January 14, 2018 04:08 AM (kUotE)

489 Ah, damn it. Wrong thread. Well you guys are pretty cool too i guess.

Posted by: Johnny at January 14, 2018 04:17 AM (kUotE)

490 subtitles vs. dubbing

One thing you didn't mention was how true to the original dialog the translation is. I have a vague memory of seeing a dubbed version and a subtitled version of the same movie years ago in which there were subtle and not so subtle differences in the dialog between the two. Because I didn't speak the language I had no idea if either of the translations was accurate.

My personal preference is dubbing, especially in action movies, because I find it less distracting. That said, my hearing is bad enough that I have subtitles turned on 98% of the time when I'm watching something at home. I've noticed that the subtitles in a lot of TV shows are not done well--not timed to the dialog, not on the screen long enough to read. And sound editing seems to be getting worse along with my hearing. When the subtitles fail me I sometimes have to watch the same bit of dialog several times to understand what was said. There have been a few times when I never could understand.

I may have to start seeking out the CC version of movies in theaters. I missed a lot of dialog (luckily there wasn't much) in Dunkirk.

Posted by: Ron Riley at January 14, 2018 07:28 AM (K0xn1)

491 If you like Swedish movies and are OK with subtitles, In Order of Disappearance with Stellan Skarsgard is a good movie.

One of the problems I have with (some) dubbed movies is the annoying voices that the less talented dubbers use to portray what they think is the original tone of the film.

Posted by: Heresolong at January 14, 2018 10:24 AM (K+rrH)

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