Republican Governor of Missouri Admits to 2015 Infidelity

He'd done campaign appearances outside his state, so I guess maybe he was considering one day running for national office.

I don't know if this is disqualifying anymore.

Bill Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick, and the media seemed pretty understanding about all that.

This story does have a twist -- a claim the governor blackmailed the woman with a budoir photo should she ever reveal the affair.

He denies that part of it.

Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens and his wife, Sheena Greitens, issued an extraordinary statement late Wednesday acknowledging that he had an extramarital affair in the past and that the couple "has dealt with this together honestly and privately."

The statement came as a St. Louis television station aired a segment alleging that, during that affair, Greitens took a compromising photograph of the woman and threatened to publicize it if she exposed him. The statement from Greitens and his wife didnít address that part of the allegation.

Greitens' attorney, James F. Bennett, issued a statement denying the blackmail allegation.

I gotta tell you, I just don't care about this bullshit any more. In fact, I never really did care about this bullshit per se-- I cared about the double standard the media imposed on Republicans.

People are sinful by nature and are going to sin. If I don't care what a CEO is doing with his mistress, so long as he's doing the job I actually care about, which is growing the company I own stock in, and not being faithful to his wife-- what's my interest here?

This is a transactional relationship and should be thought of as such.

We ain't partners, we ain't brothers, and we ain't friends, as both Nick Nolte and Eddie Murphy said in 48 Hrs. This is a purely self-interested relationship.

I don't care about this guy's morals. I never cared about any of their morals.

I just cared about the hypocrisy and double-standard of treating Republican indiscretions differently from, say, Clinton's rape.

Now I know the NeverTrump cucks will say, "You brute! You're changing your core beliefs due to Trump!"

And I reply, "No, you quivering phony cuckold wannabe priests. To the extent I pretended to be outraged by Clinton's affairs, and I didn't pretend all that hard, if you check the record, I only cared about fairness in how these things were treated."

I didn't care where Clinton put his dick -- I only cared about the lawbreaking and the double-standards.

If you guys, who I strongly suspect privately hold a much more French, much more cosmopolitique view of infidelity than you fulminate publicly, want to still pretend you give a shit about these immoral guns-for-hire hired only for a specific job, a job which does not include "being my own personal moral exemplar," you are welcome to keep living in Pretendistan, for the sake of proving the two allegedly "conservative" agenda points you still pretend to believe in.

But I never really believed in politicians -- a class scarcely more reputable than lawyers or reporters -- as being moral paragons who would lead me soul into the purifying light, and I strongly suspect you didn't, and don't, either.

To the extent Trump has changed anything along these lines, it's that he's liberated me from the burden of pretending to care about things I most assuredly do not give a wet shit about and never have given a wet shit about.

But if the #MuhPrinciples crowd still feels the need to keep up appearances, in spite of the Rape-Sized precedent set by Clinton, then I suppose tilting at this particular windmill is as good as a time-wasting mission for you to dissipate your excess energies harmlessly as any other.

The blackmail angle, if true -- and I don't think we even have an on-the-record source claiming it is -- would be a more serious concern.

But then: the power of precedent. Check it out.


Posted by: Ace at 08:44 PM




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1 Must be something in the water in Missouri.

Posted by: fluffy at January 11, 2018 08:40 PM (cHbmY)

2 Columbia is a shithole.

Posted by: Monk at January 11, 2018 08:41 PM (g4lFK)

3 Meh!

Posted by: lin-duh at January 11, 2018 08:41 PM (kufk0)

4 I do not care much either. I do notapprove but I am not a sanctimonious prig to believe it could never happen to me. But yeah, as long as he does the job the voters put him there to do.

Posted by: IC at January 11, 2018 08:44 PM (zbw4B)

5 Eyes Wide Shut is real.

Posted by: Monk at January 11, 2018 08:44 PM (g4lFK)

6 This is kinda an important part of the atty's statement:


'We have been asked repeatedly by reputable news outlets why we believe this nearly three-year-old news story is coming out now. The latest reporting has finally disclosed that the reporting was being driven by a "source" who is the former Democrat state party chairman and who apparently has not spoken to the person in question. This goes a long way to explaining what is going on - this is a political hit piece."

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2018 08:44 PM (Enq6K)

7 Does this guy have any fight in him?

Posted by: Exile at January 11, 2018 08:44 PM (Fikbq)

8 Hiking the Old Apalachian Trail

Posted by: garrett at January 11, 2018 08:45 PM (GTkSk)

9 People like to fuck. Shocker. You literally have to make an effort not to want to fuck..... Like Japan.

Posted by: Monk at January 11, 2018 08:45 PM (g4lFK)

10 Republican Governor of Missouri Admits to 2015 Infidelity

I can't rule on whether this was bad, or not, until I see a pic of the mistress.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 11, 2018 08:46 PM (8gDQu)

11 I couldn't possibly care less about infidelity.

If yer with me yer with me.

If yer agin me me yer agin me.

Posted by: eleven at January 11, 2018 08:46 PM (+lOpA)

12 If any ATM comes out, I may be outraged. Because you never do that.

Posted by: Monk at January 11, 2018 08:46 PM (g4lFK)

13 He needs to resign NOW, what a hypocrite, unlike honorable progressives like our beloved Al Franken!

Posted by: A Woke Shitholer at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (+dsLj)

14 BFD.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (ri1Ra)

15 Outstanding, ace.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (QDnY+)

16 Washington, DC is a shithole.

Posted by: eleven at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (+lOpA)

17 Show me

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (6Ll1u)

18 Eliot Spitzer + hooker = talk show on CNN.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (ptqGC)

19 A fucking men ace. Ive never given a fuck about any of their morals either.

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (WxRN2)

20 Unbelievable.

Posted by: John Edwards at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (arhmY)

21 Now really, who of us hasn't had the occasional fling while running for governor?

Posted by: Judge Miklos, non-judgementally at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (zCyNd)

22 And a statement from Sheena Greitens:

"We have a loving marriage and an awesome family; anything beyond that is between us and God. I want the media and those who wish to peddle gossip to stay away from me and my children."

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (Enq6K)

23 12. Heh.....ya can change yer nic, but not your self.

* pours an old croney a double vodka *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 11, 2018 08:49 PM (fA1SL)

24 And a statement from Sheena Greitens:



"We have a loving marriage and an awesome family; anything beyond
that is between us and God. I want the media and those who wish to
peddle gossip to stay away from me and my children."



Fat chance.


-- MSLSD, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2018 08:49 PM (ptqGC)

25 A fucking men ace. Ive never given a fuck about any of their morals either.

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (WxRN2)


It's not his morals that might be of concern. It's his taste and judgment - was she hot enough to provide an acceptable risk/reward ratio? Or is this like Ahnold with the fat maid?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 11, 2018 08:49 PM (8gDQu)

26 "We have a loving marriage and an awesome family; anything beyond that is between us and God. I want the media and those who wish to peddle gossip to stay away from me and my children."

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (Enq6K)

Bluebell would have added a very persuasive coda.

Posted by: Miklos from arch support at January 11, 2018 08:49 PM (zCyNd)

27 She sounds like she has some fight in her. She's not the Governor.

Posted by: Exile at January 11, 2018 08:49 PM (Fikbq)

28 It's been a long time, but it was fun (in a depressing way) to nuke idiots who would blather their ignorant nonsense about "sex!" and impeachment for Clinton.


Perjury, videotaped, before a federal grand jury. In a sexual harassment case.


Oh.


As with everything else, when confronted with even the basic facts, vs. the extravagant nonsense the "press" feeds them, they were generally just silent and dumbfounded. And assuredly would say exactly the same thing, a day later, to someone else.



Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2018 08:50 PM (QDnY+)

29 A man or a woman is not measured by their private, personal lives but how they perform as public actors. It may have been the right thing to overlook Bill C's little ventures into rape and so forth, but to judge him for his service as President. When one clears one's mind and does so ... Ewww!

Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 08:50 PM (md3fh)

30 The problelm is not the affair, the problem is a public official had the affair, and is now subject to blackmail with respect to his public actions.

Posted by: artemis at January 11, 2018 08:50 PM (AwPyG)

31 Eliot Spitzer + hooker = talk show on CNN.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (ptqGC)

To be fair, hookers are at least up front about the sex for money and resources instead of modern women running game on dating apps. So hookers have morals and the more you pay the lower and faster those morals disappear

Posted by: Monk at January 11, 2018 08:50 PM (g4lFK)

32 Ok, I take your point on the Nevertrumpers and Libs. I understand where you are coming from.

My point is still "People show you who they are." Someone who is likely to 'bend the rules and play around' in one area has crossed a psychological barrier where they might well do it in others, imo.

It does not mean they cannot be good thinkers and valuable in that way (see Newt Gingrich.) However, we do elect at least a president on the idea that he will do what is right when it really counts. Not what is convenient or even accepted.

Do I have trouble with Trump's infidelities? Yes. On the other hand, the pickings were somewhat slim on the ground, and thus far he has shown himself to do what is right as far as running the country. He has done damn fine so far, especially considering the climate. FAR FAR FAR better than we have come to expect from the last two republican presidents and worlds and away better than the democratic ones.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 11, 2018 08:50 PM (K2SnJ)

33
I don't care about the boinking of the help, but yeah rape is a particularly nasty crime. So no pass on Clinton by me, but the media and feminists are alright with it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (r+sAi)

34 Has it ever really been the right that's gotten so indignant? Or has it been the Media that has CLAIMED the right is so indignant by quoting a few off the wall assholes that only lil ol ladies in their rockers watching late night tv care about?

I like you have only been concerned about any illegalities and the perceived double standard and false equivalence and hypocrites.

Same with gays or trannies. I couldn't care less who does what with what bits as long as everyone's of consenting age and nothing illegal or harmful occurs without permission.

That said, it's not my "bag" as we used to say.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (YOHxA)

35 stay away from me and my children."
Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (Enq6K)

Damn, girl. Couldn't have phrased that any more directly.

It's like my brain's inner earballs could hear the implied "or i will F*ck You UP" at the end of that statement.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (T28di)

36
If this kinda thing keeps up, we're going to run out of politicians. Then what do we do? Start drafting people out of the phone book?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (GroCc)

37 And this is why impeaching Clinton for a bj was stupid. Deep down nobody gave a fuck. And yes i know he was impeaches for "lying".

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (WxRN2)

38 Wake me when the Left starts erasing the name "John F. Kennedy" from thousands of streets, schools, and so on, due to his now widely-acknowledged cheating on Queen Jacqueline.

Posted by: Gref at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (AMIL/)

39 Same goes for Moore

Posted by: logprof at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (PjJn1)

40 Let me see if I understand this correctly. Democrat politicians have had their boyfriends running fag brothels from their house, and have spent their time cornholing underaged male pages in Congress, but that was no biggie.

No. A grown man having a consensual affair with a woman not his wife, who has forgiven him, THAT'S a BFD?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (ri1Ra)

41 23 12. Heh.....ya can change yer nic, but not your self.

* pours an old croney a double vodka *
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 11, 2018 08:49 PM (fA1SL)

*cheers*

Posted by: Monk at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (g4lFK)

42 TPOP and others with the key observation.


The Horde's considered judgment is reserved until we have reviewed all the evidence.


Which, if it includes glamour or swimsuit shots, would expedite our process.


Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2018 08:52 PM (QDnY+)

43 If this kinda thing keeps up, we're going to run out of politicians. Then what do we do? Start drafting people out of the phone book?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (GroCc)


You still get phonebooks?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 11, 2018 08:52 PM (8gDQu)

44 Kathleen "Trump is a loathsome cad!" Parker had no problem sharing a set with Eliot Spitzer.

Spitz and Tits, as some wags here called the show.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2018 08:52 PM (ptqGC)

45 Columbia is a shithole.

Posted by: Monk at January 11, 2018 08:41 PM (g4lFK)

It's on, bitch.

We're sending Lindsey over to settle your hash.

Posted by: Columbia, South Carolina at January 11, 2018 08:52 PM (zCyNd)

46 If it were a man on man on man thing, he would be fine.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 11, 2018 08:52 PM (EoRCO)

47 OMG! We could run out of politicians?! *runs around in circles*

Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 08:52 PM (md3fh)

48 37 And this is why impeaching Clinton for a bj was stupid. Deep down nobody gave a fuck. And yes i know he was impeaches for "lying".
Posted by: #neverskankles at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (WxRN2)


I believe we were earlier discussing the "dignity of the office?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 08:52 PM (ri1Ra)

49 I look at these things selfishly. I'd rather my governor not be an adulterer but whether I can overlook it or not is dependent on how competent the governor is at his job. That includes whether the adultery is going to effect how he is going to be able to carry out the job competent or not.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 11, 2018 08:53 PM (2DOZq)

50 And this is why impeaching Clinton for a bj was stupid. Deep down nobody gave a fuck. And yes i know he was impeaches for "lying".

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (WxRN2)


And suborning perjury, which is pretty serious stuff - even moreso for the top executive officer of the nation.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 11, 2018 08:53 PM (8gDQu)

51 Heh.....ya can change yer nic, but not your self.

---

Tell that to the voices in my head. They would like a word with you.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 11, 2018 08:53 PM (GroCc)

52 The governor's wife should have ended with:

"I WILL cut a bitch."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2018 08:53 PM (ptqGC)

53 Find the perfect man or woman and make them your leader. Do thus and thou shalt remain leaderless for all eternity.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 08:54 PM (md3fh)

54 Start drafting people out of the phone book?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (GroCc)


I like the way you think, SR.

Posted by: Emmie at January 11, 2018 08:54 PM (/A+Cl)

55 Chris Cuomo segment on Tucker is hilarious

Posted by: logprof at January 11, 2018 08:54 PM (PjJn1)

56 It was far from stupid to impeach Clinton for perjury.


It was catastrophically stupid *not* to convict him.


You might have noticed some sort of integrity and lawlessness problem at senior levels of the USG since that time. Not unknown prior, but Third World under Obama. There is no doubt Clinton's lawbreaking was a crucial turn of the wratchet.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2018 08:54 PM (QDnY+)

57 The crisp lines of his pants crease are impeccable. Moron.

Posted by: Fritz at January 11, 2018 08:54 PM (bJ0w+)

58 Not as if people have cared all that much about the affairs themselves when you get down to it. Yeah its the moral flaw of these guys. But its always an aspect that is beyond the affair that is the scandalous part.

Bill Clinton - Rape and abuse of power to sleep with his employees.

Client Number 9 - He was caught in a prostitution sting.

Governor Sanford - He disappeared to engage in his affair and then had a press conference where he talked about it like he was a Freshmen girl in love for the first time.

Posted by: buzzion at January 11, 2018 08:54 PM (lKs2v)

59 Look, it is really simple. I treat politicians as if they were my employees. Do I care about what church they go to? Whether they drink and fuck around in their off hours? Nope. Their youthful indiscretions? Nope.

Now, one of my employees is fucking an intern in the office, while he is supposed to be working, and gets caught up in a sexual harassment scandal, that distracts him from his work, then yeah, I fucking care. I care a lot. Fire his ass.

That just the thing - I don't worship politicians. I don't want to be like them. They aren't my glorious leader, paragon of virtue. They ARE my employees. And they'd better well remember that.

Trump, for his many, many faults, acts like I'm his best customer. He promises stuff, and he delivers. To some extent I don't even care HOW he gets his job done - if he needs to troll the competition, say outrageous things, deal with the dems, whatever. Did he deliver?

That is the difference between the dems and us. How a politician seems, what he says, how he makes you feel, that is ALL dems care about. results? They couldn't give a shit about results.

Posted by: Uncle of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy at January 11, 2018 08:54 PM (fftfA)

60 If any ATM comes out, I may be outraged. Because you never do that.
Posted by: Monk at January 11, 2018 08:46 PM (g4lFK)
+++
"ATM"? You sayin' what I think you're sayin'?

Posted by: SteveOReno at January 11, 2018 08:54 PM (2sCft)

61 You still get phonebooks?


Three or four every year, even when I didn't have a phone.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 11, 2018 08:54 PM (GroCc)

62 At least he's not a dick-sucker!

Posted by: chelsea's handler at January 11, 2018 08:54 PM (QCX64)

63 I cared about Clinton for two reasons. First, I was in the military and if it had been me, my career would have been toast. Second, he committed perjury. That was when I knew there were two standards.

Posted by: Bill R. at January 11, 2018 08:55 PM (IuYIh)

64 Fact: He switched parties from Democrat to Republican in 2015.

Unknown no. 1: What party was he in during the affair?

Unknown no. 2: Does it matter?

Posted by: Lord Dread at January 11, 2018 08:55 PM (KTre6)

65 You call that an affair?

Puhlease.

Call me when it involves narcoleptic circus midgets, a smattering of farm animals and six liters of Norwegian whale oil.

Posted by: Christopher Dodd at January 11, 2018 08:55 PM (arhmY)

66 30 The problelm is not the affair, the problem is a public official had the affair, and is now subject to blackmail with respect to his public actions.
Posted by: artemis at January 11, 2018 08:50 PM (AwPyG)


After a public statement to that effect?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 08:55 PM (ri1Ra)

67 We could pick people out of the asylums, except that the ACLU forced us to kick them out on the street. Maybe that guy standing by the entrance ramp with a little sign would make a great Rep or Senator, given the chance. Couldn't be much worse than some of the dreck we have now.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 08:56 PM (md3fh)

68 If any ATM comes out, I may be outraged. Because you never do that.
Posted by: Monk at January 11, 2018 08:46 PM (g4lFK)
+++
"ATM"? You sayin' what I think you're sayin'?
Posted by: SteveOReno at January 11, 2018 08:54 PM (2sCft)

Honey......or grape jelly.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 11, 2018 08:56 PM (EoRCO)

69 Missouri is a shithole?

Sorry, wrong thread.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 11, 2018 08:56 PM (EZebt)

70 Call me when it involves narcoleptic circus midgets, a smattering of farm animals and six liters of Norwegian whale oil.

Posted by: Christopher Dodd at January 11, 2018 08:55 PM (arhmY)

That's quite the sandwich! Heh heh....

Posted by: Lion Of Hell, formerly the Senate at January 11, 2018 08:57 PM (zCyNd)

71 35 stay away from me and my children."
Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2018 08:47 PM (Enq6K)

Damn, girl. Couldn't have phrased that any more directly.

It's like my brain's inner earballs could hear the implied "or i will F*ck You UP" at the end of that statement.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 11, 2018 08:51 PM (T28di)


Well she is a ginger so....maybe the atty chose to leave that part out.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2018 08:57 PM (Enq6K)

72 I get tired of people trying to force me to hear and agree with what they do with their pee pee's. Couldn't care less. Do your jobs.

Posted by: dartist at January 11, 2018 08:57 PM (nisXv)

73 Yeah his wife is not to be messed with. She is a mama bear protecting her kids. As it should be.

Posted by: IC at January 11, 2018 08:57 PM (zbw4B)

74 Bill Clinton was getting BJs in the White House and while he was on the phone doing the country's business. He subjected himself to the possibility of blackmail. It wasn't just about sex. It was about compromising the country and defiling the people's house.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 11, 2018 08:58 PM (2DOZq)

75 Call me when it involves narcoleptic circus midgets, a smattering of farm animals and six liters of Norwegian whale oil.
Posted by: Christopher Dodd at January 11, 2018 08:55 PM (arhmY)

Talk about an affair to remember....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 11, 2018 08:58 PM (T28di)

76 Cheat in your marriage and you'll cheat in anything. I've known many people who carry on outside of marriage. Nice people, but I'll never trust them.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 11, 2018 08:58 PM (gC2IV)

77 And suborning perjury, which is pretty serious stuff - even moreso for the top executive law enforcement officer of the nation.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 11, 2018 08:53 PM (8gDQu)

FIFY.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 08:58 PM (ri1Ra)

78 @67 ...except you don't want to pick the guy from the asylum who thinks he's Napoleon Bonaparte. Or the one who thinks he's Spiro Agnew.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 11, 2018 08:58 PM (T1c3o)

79 Media blackmail bomb status: defused.

Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 11, 2018 08:58 PM (5ng19)

80 76 Cheat in your marriage and you'll cheat in anything. I've known many people who carry on outside of marriage. Nice people, but I'll never trust them.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 11, 2018 08:58 PM (gC2IV)


Whom do you trust? And in what context?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 08:59 PM (ri1Ra)

81 Kind of like the two Florida State Senators, both married with children, having the affair and then demanding that they be left alone so they can do the business of 'the people' of their great state. They had been doing the 'business' for quite some time. Mr. Big Ten Inch wasn`t coming around and spanking that thing at four in the evening and sneaking out at five, oh hell no! His was parked up in that legislative body from ten at night till six the next morning. He was laying pipe around the capitol and a lot of it. That fucker had his own backhoe attachment...he was digging deep!

Posted by: Tentotwo at January 11, 2018 08:59 PM (yhf6w)

82 except you don't want to pick the guy from the asylum who thinks he's Napoleon Bonaparte. Or the one who thinks he's Spiro Agnew.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 11, 2018 08:58 PM (T1c3o)

You nattering nabob of negativity!

Posted by: Miklos Agnew at January 11, 2018 08:59 PM (zCyNd)

83 Most boudoir photos I have seen are disappointing.

Posted by: CM9000 at January 11, 2018 08:59 PM (asyrG)

84 There is no doubt Clinton's lawbreaking was a crucial turn of the wratchet.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2018 08:54 PM (QDnY+)


Big time. ANd Clinton's refusal to resign in the face of his clear guilt was a huge step down the shithole spiral for this nation. EVERYONE thought that Clinton had to resign after the truth of the situation became clear. Even his people at the WHite House and even the MFM turds were all positive that he had no other choice. But Clinton refused to resign. Instead, he took off for Martha's Vineyard and used Chelsea as a press shield (the first time the Clintons had let Chelsea be part of the coverage, BTW).

And then Clinton just held out. ANd he won. Sure, he was a pariah for some years but he was left in office and the GOP then had an excuse to never go after a dem President, again - always citing the delusional "impeachement backlash" which left the poor GOP with nothing but the White House and control of both Houses of Congress in 2001.

And then Barky took all this to a new, unheard of in America, level.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 11, 2018 08:59 PM (8gDQu)

85 This story does have a twist -- a claim the governor blackmailed the woman with a budoir photo should she ever reveal the affair.

---

so since she's revealed....let's see it.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 11, 2018 09:00 PM (vChNs)

86 I hope Ace sleeps in tomorrow.

Posted by: Redgrains at January 11, 2018 09:00 PM (WPxnj)

87 Meanwhile, no mention - none - of Kameltoe Harris going down on Willie Brown to advance her career.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 09:00 PM (ri1Ra)

88 shitholes are underrated

Posted by: Lindsay Graham at January 11, 2018 09:00 PM (vChNs)

89 good stuff ace

Posted by: concrete girl at January 11, 2018 09:01 PM (nBzBk)

90 In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the Ace sleeps tonight....

Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 09:01 PM (md3fh)

91 Billy Jeff pointing his finger in our faces while he lied about not having sex "with that woman" showed just what a POS he was/is.

I can imagine that same face when he told Juanita Broderick to "put some ice on it."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2018 09:01 PM (ptqGC)

92 And then Barky took all this to a new, unheard of in America, level.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 11, 2018 08:59 PM (8gDQu)


Turd World countries shook their heads in disgust.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 09:02 PM (ri1Ra)

93 This story does have a twist -- a claim the governor blackmailed the woman with a budoir photo should she ever reveal the affair.

---

so since she's revealed....let's see it.

-
Yeah, does this guy have any credibility or not?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 11, 2018 09:02 PM (+y/Ru)

94 I disagree with you, Ace.

The moral character of our elected leaders is of paramount importance.

Clinton's infidelities, as well as the double standards imposed by the media, were key factors in my eventual departure from left liberalism.

You can add also Willie Brown's and Gavin Newsom's infidelities.

If they will fvck over their spouses, can you imagine what depravities they would impose on us? Have imposed on us?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 11, 2018 09:02 PM (EZebt)

95 Napoleon Bonaparte would make a great leader. And he is NOT in the asylum, he is down by the entrance ramp with a sign saying he will work for food.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 09:02 PM (md3fh)

96 This is a good point ace is bringing up. The only reason that liberals bring up morality is because they think conservative prudishness can be used as a tool to dupe and manipulate them into not supporting good candidates.

It's similar to "Trump colluded with Russians. You hate them Russkies, don't you?" and "If you were really a Christian, you'd support open borders, sanctuary cities and Obamacare". They are just slimy, deceptive motherf*ckers. Tommy Flanagans one and all.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 11, 2018 09:03 PM (/qEW2)

97 What secret talent do you have? And is it as big as my feet?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 11, 2018 09:03 PM (6Ll1u)

98
I am gonna guess just about every Repub running for office this year is gonna be accused of an affair.

With a hot 18 year old. With a tiny waist and big boobs. And skimpy clothes. Those kinda clothes that make you sit up and salute. Like a white t-shirt with no bra. and those jean shorts that show some short hairs when she....

Oh wait I digress. Voting is your civic duty.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2018 09:03 PM (r+sAi)

99 And then Barky took all this to a new, unheard of in America, level.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 11, 2018 08:59 PM (8gDQu)

Turd World countries shook their heads in disgust.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 09:02 PM (ri1Ra)

Not disgust. Recognition.

Posted by: Miklos Agnew at January 11, 2018 09:04 PM (zCyNd)

100 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 08:59 PM (ri1Ra)

------------

I trust plenty of people until they prove themselves to be untrustworthy. Cheaters will cheat, liars will lie.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 11, 2018 09:04 PM (gC2IV)

101 Cheat in your marriage and you'll cheat in anything

-
Everybody lies about sex. And selling uranium to Russia.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now On the Gorilla Channel at January 11, 2018 09:05 PM (+y/Ru)

102
Napoleon Bonaparte would make a great leader. And he is NOT in the
asylum, he is down by the entrance ramp with a sign saying he will work
for food.


Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 09:02 PM (md3fh)


There's a black guy in my town who walks around dressed head-to-toe in gold, with a headdress on like a pharoah. He probably would have been a better president than Hussein Obama.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2018 09:05 PM (ptqGC)

103 Yeah, I tend to be a little disappointed when a politician I like is revealed to have had an affair, but I, too, am much more incensed at the partisan double standard.

Even worse is when Democrats engage in actual law-breaking to cover up their infidelities.

The worst, though, IMO, is when other Republicans pile on to enforce that same double standard. Republicans who still to this day refer to underage-hooker aficionado Bob Menendez as "my esteemed colleague" while simultaneously blasting Roy Moore as "utterly unfit for this dignified, august body we call The Senate"; that's the worst part of any Republican sex scandal, IMO.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 11, 2018 09:05 PM (wSC8T)

104 I guess it goes to the quest for heroes. Back in the day sports stars were held up as heroes, the press keeping their secrets. That fell apart ~1970ish

We want our great men to also be good men. Thus politicians sins were also hidden from view.

Astronauts and Soldiers would also have filled that role.

Do we still need heroes, and if so where do we find them?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 11, 2018 09:05 PM (vChNs)

105 I don't care either, it wouldn't change my vote, but unfortunately there are these conservative, pinch faced moral scolds that go to the ballot box and think the appropriate punishment for something like this is electing a baby killing Democrat.

Witness Roy Moore

Posted by: Apache at January 11, 2018 09:05 PM (uc45P)

106 Has anyone monetized the idea of a Gorilla Channel yet?

Posted by: jakee308 at January 11, 2018 09:05 PM (YOHxA)

107 The only reason that liberals bring up morality is because they think conservative prudishness can be used as a tool to dupe and manipulate them into not supporting good candidates.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 11, 2018 09:03 PM (/qEW2)


Yep. They also try to use our decency against us: "I can't support Trump; he's so gauche!"

Posted by: Emmie at January 11, 2018 09:05 PM (/A+Cl)

108 Call me when it involves narcoleptic circus midgets, a smattering of farm animals and six liters of Norwegian whale oil.

Posted by: Christopher Dodd at January 11, 2018 08:55 PM (arhmY)

That's quite the sandwich! Heh heh....
Posted by: Lion Of Hell, formerly the Senate at January 11, 2018 08:57 PM (zCyNd)

---

far better than African whale oil!

Posted by: D Trump at January 11, 2018 09:06 PM (vChNs)

109 You know who else had a mistress.......

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 11, 2018 09:06 PM (WxRN2)

110 Fuck heroes.

Fuck that.


Fight for what I want.

Posted by: eleven at January 11, 2018 09:07 PM (+lOpA)

111 I say again: Gerry Studds was cornholing 17 year old pages.

Problem? Apparently not, with some.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 09:07 PM (ri1Ra)

112
I dunno, the idea if you are married you remain faithful to your partner always resonated with me, so if that's a burden to you then your morals are a bit lacking and just maybe you shouldn't have married to begin with.

It doesn't matter if you're the President or John Doe in East Anonymous.

Being a moral person has no boundaries.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 11, 2018 09:07 PM (S/hVx)

113 Republican Governor of Missouri Admits to 2015 Infidelity


That's a serious shitload of poontang.
oh wait...

Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 11, 2018 09:09 PM (5ng19)

114 Judge not lest thou be judged. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. If we are to sneak around like Peeping Toms and find out that our leaders are human beings, and then shout it from the rooftops, that is our loss. Judge them for their service. I am sure that most of our heroes of the past were human beings, and thus not perfect. There are few who cannot be brought down by bringing out their failings.

Now, the idea of blackmailing leaders (SCOTUS judges, Senators, Presidents?) to do the bidding of the swamp, that is a different thing. Until our right to privacy is reinstated, this will be a serious concern. If the AI and corrupt swamp creatures take over, we will lose it all. That appears to be the direction we are heading in.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 09:09 PM (md3fh)

115 Oh boy. Jim Acosta is on Trump's s***hole comment like a cat on a laser dot.

"Racist!!!!!"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 11, 2018 09:09 PM (ptqGC)

116 Show me.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 11, 2018 09:09 PM (0ecq3)

117 Gotta love people feeling they can speak the truth these days.

Got a US ambassador to Israel calling out the Palis for their murder and terrorism being the primary holdup in any peace talks.

Finally speaking what we all know to be the truth.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 11, 2018 09:09 PM (YOHxA)

118 This being the first time in recorded history that anyone called an Ewok a "brute".

Posted by: Sharkman at January 11, 2018 09:10 PM (0oDnb)

119
Ha, Megyn Kelly says some women want to be fat-shamed. Ok Megyn, you're a whore.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2018 09:10 PM (r+sAi)

120 Got a US ambassador to Israel calling out the Palis for their murder and terrorism being the primary holdup in any peace talks.

That's what I want. Don't care who he's dicking.

Posted by: eleven at January 11, 2018 09:11 PM (+lOpA)

121
I say again: Gerry Studds was cornholing 17 year old pages.

Problem? Apparently not, with some.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Problem? Hell, they gave him a standing ovation.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 11, 2018 09:11 PM (IqV8l)

122 102. Pharonic headdress?

We wuz kangz!

https://youtu.be/wPLP8B5G3-I

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 11, 2018 09:11 PM (fA1SL)

123 Trump is a genius. Everyone in this country who counts is nodding their heads at his shithole line. He says it like it is, and turns on the kitchen lights when the cockroaches are at play.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 09:12 PM (md3fh)

124 some women want to be fat-shamed

#WeightWatchers

Posted by: Orca Winfrey at January 11, 2018 09:12 PM (Tyii7)

125 Lindsey Graham looks wistfully to Gerry Stuffs.

Posted by: CM9000 at January 11, 2018 09:12 PM (asyrG)

126 Unless it tops the guy -- governor of Georgia, I think -- who used a government airplane for extramarital hookups in Buenos Aires, then I don't care, either. Told his wife he was going off hunting with the guys. Chutzpah!

Posted by: FireHorse at January 11, 2018 09:13 PM (y+SdL)

127
Being a moral person has no boundaries.

What if you started out thinking that you were moral and trying to live morally but a lot of shit happened and made you hate your life, then your friends, then your family, then yourself and your morality disappears like smoke in a tornado?

Are you just morally fucked for life? Or what?


Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 11, 2018 09:13 PM (5ng19)

128 Ok I read the link to Conservative Treehouse that Lizzy put in the last thread like 3 times now. If the information is true then holy shit.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2018 09:14 PM (/tuJf)

129 bunch of phonies running around preaching morals to people. the assholes preaching morals, have none. they are on their soapboxes acting like a port o pope.

yeah, fuck them.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:14 PM (KP5rU)

130 87 Meanwhile, no mention - none - of Kameltoe Harris going down on Willie Brown to advance her career.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 09:00 PM (ri1Ra)

===

Both of them complete moral failures. But hey, Democrat.

Does this make them poor leaders? It certainly doesn't help.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 11, 2018 09:14 PM (EZebt)

131 Its a shame because this guy was a rising star, Former Navy SEAL, etc

Posted by: Apache at January 11, 2018 09:15 PM (uc45P)

132 Got a US ambassador to Israel calling out the Palis for their murder and terrorism being the primary holdup in any peace talks.



That's what I want. Don't care who he's dicking.

That's right, do your fvcking job.

Posted by: dartist at January 11, 2018 09:15 PM (nisXv)

133 Why the hell is anyone even talking about this?

Did he break a law? Then prosecute him.
Did he break some rule by which he should be removed from office? Then shut the f*ck up and remove him from office.

I'm so god damned sick of assholes in cheap suits trying to tell me how I'm supposed to feel today because some dick did dickish thing X Y or Z.

"Trump said shithole!" Well, fuck off. I agree with him.
"Some GOP governor cheated on his wife!" Well, that ain't my state, and that ain't my wife.

It's so exhausting.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 11, 2018 09:15 PM (T28di)

134 I've seen a few oblique references to Trump calling some other country a shithole... which country? I'm more inclined to base my response on the answer to that question than the mere fact that our President apparently used the word "shithole".

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 11, 2018 09:15 PM (wSC8T)

135 Trump famously cheated on his 1st wife. So he is not trustworthy? On the other hand Obama, as far as I know never cheated on the Mooch. Conclusion who gives a fuck who fucks whom as long as he does whats right policy wise.

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 11, 2018 09:15 PM (r711B)

136 He admitted it, they moved on.

Nothing but their own GD business.

Posted by: eleven at January 11, 2018 09:16 PM (+lOpA)

137 Lindsey Graham looks wistfully to Gerry Stuffs.
Posted by: CM9000

I remember when the House censured Studds. He turned his back on the chamber during the vote (or maybe the reading of the censure) as a strong, defiant protest against all these cretins who want to persecute The Love That Dare Not Say Its Name.

No, dude, you were a pedophile. Not a victim.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at January 11, 2018 09:16 PM (+Tibp)

138 Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

Posted by: Ruthless
________

I know what that saying means, but I was a kid when I first heard it.

"Who live in a glass house?"
"No one. It's a saying."
"Why shouldn't they throw stones?"
"Because they'll break their house?"
"But what if they're skipping stones in the lake?"
"No, they shouldn't stones while inside their glass house."
"Well, nobody should throw stones inside their house. Duh."

Posted by: FireHorse at January 11, 2018 09:17 PM (y+SdL)

139 Reagan was married twice.

Posted by: eleven at January 11, 2018 09:17 PM (+lOpA)

140 135: reggie may disagree. not my problem, though. don't give a shit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:17 PM (KP5rU)

141 The Paulo, he agrees whole heartedly.

Posted by: Paulo at January 11, 2018 09:17 PM (3JQ/p)

142 Steal money, give contracts to your buddies, cheat the public in any way, then you deserve to be cast out and jailed. Have a little fling with a legal adult, gender optional, and that is personal business. We allowed a Representative to remain in office who let his "roommate" run a gay prostitution ring out of their apartment to remain as a leader of Congress and retire with honor. Gary Studds probably did not commit rape. I can despise him for his behavior, but what kind of a Congressman was he? That is what matters.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 09:18 PM (md3fh)

143
But didn't we already know that the Obama WH were the ones sicking the FBI on Trump? This wasn't an FBI conceived idea.

As I said earlier today, scandal of the century, but it will just float by because the media is owned by the DNC.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 11, 2018 09:18 PM (r+sAi)

144 Someone pointed out here earlier today - how does the woman's claim of blackmail make any sense? If he revealed the photo, it would damage him far more than her, unless she's Hillary or some other public figure.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 11, 2018 09:18 PM (/qEW2)

145 >>>12 If any ATM comes out, I may be outraged. Because you never do that.

If it weren't for ATM, I wouldn't have made it to basic cable.

Posted by: Chelsea Handler at January 11, 2018 09:19 PM (g5xnT)

146 140 135: reggie may disagree. not my problem, though. don't give a shit.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:17 PM (KP5rU)

Not cheatin if its strickly dickly

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 11, 2018 09:19 PM (T28di)

147 I remember when the House censured Studds. He turned his back on the chamber during the vote (or maybe the reading of the censure) as a strong, defiant protest against all these cretins who want to persecute The Love That Dare Not Say Its Name.

First off, it's not a "love." It's a perversion.

Second, he probably turned his back as an invitation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 09:19 PM (ri1Ra)

148 OK, one should not throw stones at those who might throw them back at your precious glass house. It is a fucking ANALOGY, can you grok it?

Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 09:19 PM (md3fh)

149 128 Ok I read the link to Conservative Treehouse that Lizzy put in the last thread like 3 times now. If the information is true then holy shit.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2018 09:14 PM (/tuJf)

IKR?! No one would believe that if it was in a movie.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2018 09:19 PM (Enq6K)

150 Nobody gives a shithole about infidelity anymore.

Posted by: Michael Jackson at January 11, 2018 09:19 PM (ekaKt)

151 >>But didn't we already know that the Obama WH were the ones sicking the FBI on Trump? This wasn't an FBI conceived idea.

No, you really need to read the post at the CT and understand the implications. I've been following this whole thing pretty clearly and if what they are reporting is true then ... holy shit.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2018 09:20 PM (/tuJf)

152 Every country is a shithole that is not the United States of America.

Posted by: dartist at January 11, 2018 09:20 PM (nisXv)

153 146: true that. i'm sure mooch is thrilled she doesn't have to service that stud.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:21 PM (KP5rU)

154 >>>141 The Paulo, he agrees whole heartedly.

Paolo, he grease hole hardly?

Posted by: wooga at January 11, 2018 09:21 PM (g5xnT)

155 Priests do it, teachers do it, birds do it, bees do it, why the fuck can't politicians do it? It's what comes naturally.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 09:21 PM (md3fh)

156 @ 152


Times infinity.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 11, 2018 09:21 PM (S/hVx)

157 also...stable genius trump continues to be either a 4th dimensional chess player or the Being There Part II of Presidenting (obama being #1).

He goes on camera to give what some think is a decent performance to sandbag libs in the meeting who were going to act as if trump acted like pelosi. He glad hands, gives the bum's rush, and sure sure's for an hour pissing off base but making the media go, ok, trump is non hitler and not-senile.

He then dumps the whole shitty shitty deal by droppign the shithole bomb on it, revitalizing his base with an insult about 80% of the country has used to describe various foreign shit holes....only this time it's not on tape like with pussy grab(right?) to therefore make this more anonymous bullshit background noise of the trump-fainting-crew.

he never wanted shitty daca deal, played like he did for camera, and then dumped the whole thing.

Posted by: Dr. brake bemoray at January 11, 2018 09:21 PM (V3U1L)

158 152 Every country is a shithole that is not the United States of America.
Posted by: dartist at January 11, 2018 09:20 PM (nisXv)

Canada's alright.

And I've heard good things about Uruguay.

But other than that.... yeah.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 11, 2018 09:21 PM (T28di)

159 142 Steal money, give contracts to your buddies, cheat the public in any way, then you deserve to be cast out and jailed. Have a little fling with a legal adult, gender optional, and that is personal business. We allowed a Representative to remain in office who let his "roommate" run a gay prostitution ring out of their apartment to remain as a leader of Congress and retire with honor. Gary Studds probably did not commit rape. I can despise him for his behavior, but what kind of a Congressman was he? That is what matters.
Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 09:18 PM (md3fh)


Assuming by "gay" you mean "homosexual," I think the term "degenerate" is appropriate here. Suppose Barney Frank's playmate had been dealing drugs? OK by you?

If so, what exactly would he have had to do to disqualify him for public office, in your view?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 09:23 PM (ri1Ra)

160 No, it wasnt Fusion GPS. It was CrowdStrike

How do I know? Because CrowdStrike would have to have a top secret clearance since they were already working for the FBI.

2015-07-25 Obamas FBI hires CrowdStrike.

Whoever it was had a top secret clearance, because otherwise the FISA Court would have had no choice but to shut down the entire FISA operation and cut them off cold turkey.

JackStraw

Posted by: MISH McConnell at January 11, 2018 09:23 PM (y3aQB)

161 It is a fucking ANALOGY, can you grok it?

Posted by: Ruthless
________

The part where I said that I was a kid -- I should have specified that I was about 6 years old.

Posted by: FireHorse at January 11, 2018 09:23 PM (y+SdL)

162 I lusted in my heart for a wabbit.

Posted by: Jimmah of Plains at January 11, 2018 09:23 PM (Tyii7)

163 Skip stones in the bath tub.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 11, 2018 09:23 PM (IqV8l)

164 that was a poster at CTH

Posted by: MISH McConnell at January 11, 2018 09:24 PM (y3aQB)

165 Is it really that difficult to keep it in your pants?

Dude's married. He could have just asked the wife.

If you can't be true to your wedding vows, how are you going to be trusted with little things, like, running a country, or a state, or some such?

I guess dicking the mistress is no different than dicking the general public. Politics as usual.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 11, 2018 09:24 PM (NXsWM)

166 >>IKR?! No one would believe that if it was in a movie.

le Carre would blow this off as unbelievable. I'm not sure I even believe it yet.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2018 09:24 PM (/tuJf)

167 Y'all sound drunker than me.

I cede the field.

Posted by: eleven at January 11, 2018 09:24 PM (+lOpA)

168 I am not supporting Franks. I think he was a despicable character. I think his behavior was unforgivable, but he was honored snf hs esd my point. He wore the armor of Democratium, I guess. I am going to go get something to eat now before I faint. May be back later.

Posted by: Ruthless at January 11, 2018 09:25 PM (md3fh)

169 Skip stones in the bath tub.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
________

Now we're talking! Put some plastic boats in there and reenact the Battle of Lake Champlain.

Posted by: FireHorse at January 11, 2018 09:25 PM (y+SdL)

170 >>>Posted by: Apache at January 11, 2018 09:05 PM (uc45P)

Yup. That really sucked, didn't it? There are some people who think standing back and doing nothing is noble if they can't get an impeccable candidate.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 11, 2018 09:25 PM (/qEW2)

171 I knew that after their Roy Moore takedown the Dems would be using the same or similar tactics in other places.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2018 09:25 PM (oVJmc)

172 Is it really that difficult to keep it in your pants?


Female.

Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 11, 2018 09:25 PM (5ng19)

173 Assuming by "gay" you mean "homosexual," I think the term "degenerate" is appropriate here. Suppose Barney Frank's playmate had been dealing drugs? OK by you?

If so, what exactly would he have had to do to disqualify him for public office, in your view?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 11, 2018 09:23 PM (ri1Ra)

Of COURSE he was dealing drugs. One goes hand in hand with the other.

And everybody was supposed to look the other way.

After all, what's a little congressional buttsecks in the long run?

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 11, 2018 09:25 PM (NXsWM)

174 Funny, how the left has no issue with the phrase "flyover shitholes".

Posted by: Country Singer at January 11, 2018 09:25 PM (yzxic)

175 165: tcn, pretty much covers it. that's all they know.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:25 PM (KP5rU)

176 in other Not A Shithole news, the Tunisians (where tourists' testes literally... explode, from the diseases) are rioting. On account that they have to work for a living if other nations are going to invest there.

And just for kicks the rioters molotov'ed a Jewish school.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 11, 2018 09:25 PM (6FqZa)

177 157,

I think you are 100% right. DACA deal was never going to be a winner for him. The Senate Republicans cabbed like the lessor men they are.

Posted by: Michael Jackson at January 11, 2018 09:26 PM (ekaKt)

178 #98 Saaaaaalute!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 11, 2018 09:26 PM (QCX64)

179 le Carre would blow this off as unbelievable. I'm not sure I even believe it yet.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2018 09:24 PM (/tuJf)


Does the OIG/DOJ report drop tomorrow?

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2018 09:26 PM (Enq6K)

180 >>Whoever it was had a top secret clearance, because otherwise the FISA Court would have had no choice but to shut down the entire FISA operation and cut them off cold turkey.

FISA did shut it down, hard, after Rogers did when he found out. Rogers shut down 702 17 the day he found out what was going on.

That's the thing, if what they are reporting is true it was done without telling anyone.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2018 09:27 PM (/tuJf)

181 Whoever it was had a top secret clearance, because otherwise the FISA Court would have had no choice but to shut down the entire FISA operation and cut them off cold turkey.

JackStraw
Posted by: MISH McConnell

It seems like I read that the FBI twice tried the FISA court to spy on Trump. The first request was denied (amazing considering the 99%+ rate of approval), but allowed on the second request. Is this right?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at January 11, 2018 09:27 PM (+Tibp)

182 clinton set the standard for political behavior. "yeah, i raped her, what you going to do about it."

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:28 PM (KP5rU)

183 All politicians are scum. Surprise surprise.

Posted by: freaked at January 11, 2018 09:28 PM (UdKB7)

184 I'll say this; I wish the politicians on our side were paragons of virtue but as us normals know people are gonna people. He didn't break any law from a legalistic stand point. If he's god at his job then let him and his wife sort it out and when it comes for reelection the voters will decide his fate.

Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at January 11, 2018 09:29 PM (IYHxL)

185 Uh...isn't Greitens a dem? Why is this even a story when he's of bent willie's tribe?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 11, 2018 09:29 PM (hscyr)

186 There's shitholes and then there's shitholes.

Posted by: Peruvia at January 11, 2018 09:29 PM (Tyii7)

187 You know where they have affairs?
Shitholistan. That's where.

Posted by: #neverskankles at January 11, 2018 09:29 PM (R+s6m)

188 135 Trump famously cheated on his 1st wife. So he is not trustworthy? On the other hand Obama, as far as I know never cheated on the Mooch. Conclusion who gives a fuck who fucks whom as long as he does whats right policy wise.
Posted by: #neverskankles at January 11, 2018 09:15 PM (r711B)

So you honestly don't believe the stories of Bathhouse Barry?

And you think those two girls look one bit like Barry?

Even though you never see him holding hands with the Mooch, let alone sneaking a smooch or doing any of the other things that heterosexual married folks do?

Yeah. He never cheated. At all. At. all.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 11, 2018 09:29 PM (NXsWM)

189 >>Does the OIG/DOJ report drop tomorrow?

I've read it might slip into next week but your guess is as good as mine. It's definitely soon.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2018 09:29 PM (/tuJf)

190 @ 152


Times infinity.

Times two.

Posted by: dartist at January 11, 2018 09:30 PM (nisXv)

191 Clinton was trying to fix a court case, pure and simple.

Obstruct justice.

Witness tamper.

Commit perjury.

Highest law enforcement official in the damn country, and they let him get away with it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2018 09:30 PM (oVJmc)

192 yeah, Trump is playing the press like barney frank plays a dick.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 11, 2018 09:30 PM (MTjB1)

193 Outgoing Virginia governor and possible 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Terry McAuliffe said he would beat up President Trump if he ever invaded his space during a debate.

McAuliffe, responding to a question about how he would handle Trump's "Godzilla like" invasion of Hillary Clinton's space during a debate, said he would "deck him."

"You would have to pick him up off the floor," McAuliffe said in an interview on MSNBC Thursday night.




But shithole countries is all the outrage of the day

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2018 09:30 PM (SiINZ)

194 If King David was good enough for God a cheating politician who is good at his job and is generally on my side should be good enough for me.

Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at January 11, 2018 09:30 PM (IYHxL)

195 Someone pointed out here earlier today - how does the woman's claim of blackmail make any sense?

That would have been me, who pointed that out, since I am the last person anyone wants to see as the star of amateur pr0n. Well, besides Ron Jeremy

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 11, 2018 09:30 PM (6FqZa)

196 177 157,

I think you are 100% right. DACA deal was never going to be a winner for him. The Senate Republicans cabbed like the lessor men they are."

the 2018 senate is going to be a lot less..Flakey. and McCainey. and also a lot more red.

so who the fuck would rush to do a crap deal right now? Use your fucking slush funds to build the wall.

enforce the fucking border to the max and figure out who the clintons used to make people get very sad right before testifying to deal with ....you know who.

Posted by: Dr. brake bemoray at January 11, 2018 09:31 PM (V3U1L)

197 188; as the son of a white whore and frank marshal davis, it's all he knows. shuck and jive.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:31 PM (KP5rU)

198 Well, if this woman was a mail carrier, then it was probably alright. I mean, they're pretty irresistable.

Like my Dad. Did you know he was a mailman?

Posted by: John Kasich, soon to be a nobody again at January 11, 2018 09:32 PM (S6Pax)

199 kinda ironic tho that Hillary cucked Bill with Webb Hubble's kid

Posted by: Dr. brake bemoray at January 11, 2018 09:32 PM (V3U1L)

200 Uh...isn't Greitens a dem? Why is this even a story when he's of bent willie's tribe?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January




you should know because the story opened "Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens and his wife, Sheena Greitens" not "Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens (D) and his wife, Sheena Greitens."

were he a republican it would open "Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens (REPUBLICAN / EVIL) and his wife, Sheena Greitens (SCRUNT WHORE)"

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 11, 2018 09:33 PM (MTjB1)

201 Trump met with Russian officials in Der'movoye Otverstiye!

Posted by: FireHorse at January 11, 2018 09:33 PM (y+SdL)

202 188; as the son of a white whore and frank marshal davis, it's all he knows. shuck and jive.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January




davis was not his dad, he was the guy who made him a man.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 11, 2018 09:33 PM (MTjB1)

203 mcauliff can only dream of decking someone. women and children don't count. lightweight sperm sipper.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:34 PM (KP5rU)

204 Trump met with Russian officials in Der'movoye Otverstiye!

Bullwinkle is on it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 11, 2018 09:34 PM (6FqZa)

205 Do we still need heroes, and if so where do we find them?
------
We don't need another hero!
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is liiiiife beyond ...
The Capitol Dome

Posted by: a bunch of Aussie schoolkids at January 11, 2018 09:34 PM (QCX64)

206 Personally, it does bother me that my governor is guilty of adultery, given the sort of platform he ran on. I didn't actually vote for him in the primary (did in the general), because I just didn't believe he was experienced enough.

But any Democrat who's going to wag his finger at me can f**k off.

Posted by: T at January 11, 2018 09:34 PM (Vgw1E)

207 Dude, Terry McAwful would lose to Felonia von Pantsuit in a fight. What the hell chance does that ninny think he has against Trump?

And also....

Kinda think you just threatened violence against the president.

Not too smart, Terrycloth.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 11, 2018 09:35 PM (T28di)

208 Imagine, also, this: Clinton chose PERJURY over just losing a case he deserved to lose. He could have settled, but was willing to commit further crimes to cover up.

That is incredibly reckless, outside of the knowledge (and lifelong experience) that he could get away with outright lawlessness because of political corruption.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2018 09:36 PM (oVJmc)

209 I seem to recall that at one time, like a number of web site proprietors, Ace was proposing to ban commenters who used the term "cuck," believing it to be associated with White Pride, Worldwide etc." The term was alien and unwelcome to me as well.

Now the term is not only accepted, but in some cases, is the most fair and descriptive term for the situation.

The Overton window, and the concept of "cuck," has been moved a considerable distance by years of outrageous Leftist fuckery. In a sense, we get our instructions from the Left. They wear everybody down with their bullshit until no fucks are given. We are looking into the cauldron of molten lava they have prepared for us and realize that some things don't matter anymore.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 11, 2018 09:36 PM (4dWFG)

210 202: i think davis was his dad. the kenyan angle was for convenience and special treatment.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:36 PM (KP5rU)

211 Kinda think you just threatened violence against the president.

Not too smart, Terrycloth.
Posted by: Warai-otoko


Bailiff, whack his pee-pee!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at January 11, 2018 09:36 PM (S6Pax)

212 Difference between Trump and chemo?

Cancer doesn't stand a chance against Trump

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 11, 2018 09:36 PM (fA1SL)

213
were he a republican it would open "Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens (REPUBLICAN / EVIL) and his wife, Sheena Greitens (SCRUNT WHORE)"


He was elected as a Republican.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2018 09:37 PM (oVJmc)

214
Just for shits and giggles (and a bit of reassurance ) go here.

MAGAPILL.com.

It's a compendium of what the admin has accomplished to date.

Might surprise you.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 11, 2018 09:37 PM (S/hVx)

215 MAGAPILL.com

Looks like a big red, white, and blue suppository.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 11, 2018 09:38 PM (6FqZa)

216 Thought the deal was ...... Jan. 15 (MLK's real birthday, and the anniversary of history's least secret surprise attack, in 1991), 1.5M documents from the IG's investigation are given to DOJ management. Report follows in Feb. or March.
Could be wrong.


And ...... Tunis has (had) a Jewish school? Really?



Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2018 09:39 PM (QDnY+)

217 158 152 Every country is a shithole that is not the United States of America.
Posted by: dartist at January 11, 2018 09:20 PM (nisXv)

Canada's alright.

And I've heard good things about Uruguay.

But other than that.... yeah.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 11, 2018 09:21 PM (T28di)


Don't count out Switzerland. I really enjoyed Zurich; and anyway, any country with truly functioning federalism, where you don't even need a license to buy an anti-tank weapon, can't be all bad.

Posted by: T at January 11, 2018 09:39 PM (Vgw1E)

218 #TheResistance needs to start wearing ShitHoleHats now instead of HugeWoolenDongHats ...

Posted by: ShainS at January 11, 2018 09:39 PM (BiLU+)

219 Yo, Adrian.

Posted by: Terry McMuffin at January 11, 2018 09:39 PM (Tyii7)

220 I only care about it to the extent of WHERE their indiscretions take place. Private property? Motel room? Cabin on the lake? Let the PI and divorce attorneys worry about it.

The fucking Oval Office of the White House? Fuck you, maggot.

Posted by: The mass media can EABOD at January 11, 2018 09:40 PM (UbvVs)

221 i think davis was his dad. the kenyan angle was for convenience and special treatment.
Posted by: chavez the hugo

There was a picture when Obama was a little kid, playing in the surf in Hawaii with his maternal grandfather, Stanley Ann's dad. Obama looks JUST LIKE him. Really, except his darker complexion.
Frank Marshall Davis? Influential but unlikely to be his biological father.
Obama had a really weird childhood, because his mother was really weird, and for that, I kind of feel sorry for him. But he should never have gotten within 100 miles of being President.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at January 11, 2018 09:40 PM (S6Pax)

222 wasn't in Tunis. The Jewish school was in Djerba.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 11, 2018 09:40 PM (6FqZa)

223 Cheat in your marriage and you'll cheat in anything. I've known many people who carry on outside of marriage. Nice people, but I'll never trust them.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 11, 2018 08:58 PM
~~~~~

I'm with you, Duke. But I disagree with the "nice" part. It is extremely painful to find out that your husband or wife has been cheating. A nice person would never hurt someone so badly.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 11, 2018 09:40 PM (HiDrR)

224 I heard somewhere New Zealand is awful. BTW.

Posted by: eleven at January 11, 2018 09:40 PM (+lOpA)

225 Every fella has to hike the Appalacian Trail now and again.

Can't possibly hold anyone to basic standards of decency. I mean how could we possibly do without the great talent of a MO pol no one anywhere else had heard of till 5 minutes ago?

Posted by: Hiking Enthusiast at January 11, 2018 09:41 PM (H5knJ)

226 It matters because someone who betrayed the person he cared most about at some point will definitely betray me, someone he doesn't give the slightest fuck about.

Morality matters in politics, not because I expect them to be decent people, but because I know they aren't and the worse they are the worse it's going to be for me.

Also, the left is always going to beat you at the situational ethics game, just like they'll always beat you at the entitlements game. Trying to play on their turf is guaranteeing you lose.

Posted by: StarkChoice at January 11, 2018 09:41 PM (ghSyd)

227 You all keep using the term "shithole" like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Hope Solo at January 11, 2018 09:41 PM (3JQ/p)

228 Obama had a really weird childhood

This is why I keep saying that D'Souza's "Obama's America" was the best documentary / book written about him.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 11, 2018 09:41 PM (6FqZa)

229 I'm with you, Duke. But I disagree with the "nice" part. It is extremely painful to find out that your husband or wife has been cheating. A nice person would never hurt someone so badly.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 11, 2018 09:40 PM (HiDrR)
---------------------------------

I can attest to that.

Posted by: Blake at January 11, 2018 09:41 PM (WEBkv)

230 Posted by: IrishEi at January 11, 2018 09:40 PM (HiDrR)


That's a simplistic view imo. Nice people do damage all the time.

Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at January 11, 2018 09:41 PM (IYHxL)

231
197 188; as the son of a white whore and frank marshal davis, it's all he knows. shuck and jive.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:31 PM (KP5rU)








Now now. There's no evidence that ol' Stanley spread her legs for money, so calling her a whore is uncalled for. By all accounts she fucked anything that moved just for the hell of it.

I believe the proper term for her would be slut, slattern or possibly hose-monster.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2018 09:42 PM (eXA4G)

232 I heard somewhere New Zealand is awful. BTW.

I know a few kiwis who've moved here. Yeah, they don't like how insular it is at the edge of the planet.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 11, 2018 09:42 PM (6FqZa)

233 Thanks, BTH. I didn't know there was any vestigial Jewish community in Tunisia at all. Imagine most Tunisian Jews went right to Israel sometime after '48, or via France over the last few decades.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2018 09:42 PM (QDnY+)

234 Limited Edition!
Get your Missouri Shithole Hats Here!

Posted by: ShitHoleHats R US at January 11, 2018 09:43 PM (2AsOM)

235 221; that angle borders on the freak. i have problems connecting the dots on that one. but, who knows. we will never no the truth about that shitstain.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:43 PM (KP5rU)

236 I know a few kiwis who've moved here. Yeah, they don't like how insular it is at the edge of the planet.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 11, 2018 09:42 PM (6FqZa)

-----------------------

Funny, I know someone who lived there quite a while and enjoyed it. Plans on going back, though the fact the fishing is outstanding, according to him, may have something to do with it.

Posted by: Blake at January 11, 2018 09:45 PM (WEBkv)

237 Obama had a really weird childhood, because his mother was really weird, and for that, I kind of feel sorry for him. But he should never have gotten within 100 miles of being President.

After what we've found out about the Deep State and party manipulations in the last election, it's easy to see that he was picked by people other than the voters.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2018 09:45 PM (oVJmc)

238 A nice person would never hurt someone so badly.

No one is special.
Anyone is capable of doing anything.


Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 11, 2018 09:45 PM (5ng19)

239 The blackmail leverage thing is real, and completely unrelated to the morality thing.


Of course if the "perps" make things public, bye bye blackmail opportunity.


Clinton's misbehavior (as opposed to his criminal perjury) was absolutely reckless and stupid, for the blackmail reason. Incredibly irresponsible. Just one reason he was one of our worst presidents - yet still is often deemed "uh, not so bad" even by reasonable people.


JFK, as I recall, took things to a bad B-movie script level. Messing around with a known East German intel asset, at the WH. At the height of the Cold War. Reckless doesn't begin to describe it.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2018 09:46 PM (QDnY+)

240 A person that will lie about their marriage will lie about anything. So said an old woman in Texas when interviewed in 1992 about the election.

If this guy Greitens and his wife have talked it out, and resolved it between them, then good for them.

Committing adultery is bad, but sorting it out and keeping your marriage shows some character. That's a good outcome for their family, if they want to keep it together.

I know a LOT of men AND women that have done that at least once in their marriage (I didn't, but my ex-wife did), and sometimes you can fix it by fessing up, and sometimes you can't.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at January 11, 2018 09:46 PM (S6Pax)

241 231; you would have to be desparate to pay that.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:46 PM (KP5rU)

242 yeah, Trump is playing the press like barney frank plays a dick.

Posted by: --- .-. /-. --- - at January 11, 2018 09:30 PM (MTjB1)


========

The best part, their impotent apoplexy. Hopefully a few burst arteries. Most will just ignore it, or tune in for the LULZ.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at January 11, 2018 09:47 PM (/qEW2)

243 After what we've found out about the Deep State and party manipulations in the last election, it's easy to see that he was picked by people other than the voters.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

I hope we all realize how we've been manipulated in various ways over the years. It has never been more self-evident than now.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at January 11, 2018 09:48 PM (S6Pax)

244 Former Missouri Democratic Party chairman Roy Temple told The Associated Press that he met with the woman's ex-husband several times in September 2016. But when the man ultimately decided he didn't want to go public, Temple says he agreed not to publicize the affair.

Temple says he has not spoken to the ex-husband since then.


'spoken to'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2018 09:49 PM (oVJmc)

245 238. Nobody knows anyone. Not that well.
- Tom Regan, Miller's Crossing

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 11, 2018 09:49 PM (fA1SL)

246 >>Funny, I know someone who lived there quite a while and enjoyed it. Plans on going back, though the fact the fishing is outstanding, according to him, may have something to do with it.

Shhh. Dude shut up.

New Zealand is one of those shithole countries.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2018 09:49 PM (/tuJf)

247 I know a few kiwis who've moved here. Yeah, they don't like how insular it is at the edge of the planet.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 11, 2018 09:42 PM (6FqZa)

I spent a fair amount of time there a long time ago. I remember hanging out with an Aussie who was traveling around seeing the sights, and his comment about the Kiwis was something on the order of, "Yeah, they're okay, but dumber than shit."

But damn, what a beautiful country!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2018 09:50 PM (wYseH)

248

You know who else was nice?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 11, 2018 09:50 PM (IqV8l)

249 maybe stanley conceived that spawn with satan. that other dude was busy that day.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:51 PM (KP5rU)

250 didn't say NZ was a shithole. just reported on what i heard from someone who prefers it here.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 11, 2018 09:51 PM (6FqZa)

251 New Zealand is one of those shithole countries.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2018 09:49 PM (/tuJf)

Well, shithole or not, NZ won't let anyone in unless you pay them a big ol pile of money for the privilege, AFAIK. Which rules me out.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 11, 2018 09:51 PM (T28di)

252 i shouldn't have posted 'yeah'.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 11, 2018 09:52 PM (6FqZa)

253
Fast Eddie Clarke just passed away. He was the last Motorhead member from the album that give the HQ it's name.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2018 09:52 PM (eXA4G)

254 My neighbor is from New Zealand.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 11, 2018 09:52 PM (oVJmc)

255 The three most common lies in New Zealand:

1. I know Peter Jackson.
2. I raced in the America's Cup.
3. Honest officer, I was just trying to help that sheep get over the fence.

Posted by: davidt at January 11, 2018 09:52 PM (FdNEK)

256 also shouldn't have posted 'didn't say'.

i'm going to bed.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 11, 2018 09:53 PM (6FqZa)

257 254. Fills me with a monotonous langour.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 11, 2018 09:53 PM (fA1SL)

258 253: i saw that. we're losing them fast.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:53 PM (KP5rU)

259 Nice people do damage all the time.

Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at January 11, 2018 09:41 PM (IYHxL)

Agreed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2018 09:53 PM (wYseH)

260 257 254. Fills me with a monotonous langour.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 11, 2018 09:53 PM (fA1SL)

John has a long mustache.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at January 11, 2018 09:54 PM (K2SnJ)

261 It matters because someone who betrayed the person he cared most about
at some point will definitely betray me, someone he doesn't give the
slightest fuck about.



I would trust the loyalty of a reformed adulterer over a self-promoting, morally preening spouse who is blindly convinced of their inability to fail.

Everytime.

Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 11, 2018 09:55 PM (5ng19)

262 Sniglet

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 11, 2018 09:57 PM (GroCc)

263 Sniglet

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at January 11, 2018 09:57 PM (GroCc)

Where?

Get the shotgun!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 11, 2018 09:57 PM (wYseH)

264 >>I spent a fair amount of time there a long time ago. I remember hanging out with an Aussie who was traveling around seeing the sights, and his comment about the Kiwis was something on the order of, "Yeah, they're okay, but dumber than shit."

Spent a fair amount of time in both places and sailing with both. Surprisingly, they both say the same thing about each other.

Australia has 9 of the world's most deadly snakes and even the fucking kangaroos will cut a bitch. New Zealand has beer and rugby and sheep and no snakes.

This isn't even a close call.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2018 09:57 PM (/tuJf)

265 250 comments in. Just got here so back on topic for me.

I used to expect that so called leaders would be better than me. Experience hath taught that they are worse, and I set a mediocre bar.

To top it off, there's the galling level of hypocrisy it takes to tell us what "our" values are, especially the mantra of "that's not who we are" etc.

Toss in the whaddaboutism and the media bias, and the posturing and they've all gotten my contempt the old fashioned way; they've earned it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 11, 2018 09:58 PM (z79tQ)

266 earschplittenloudenboomer.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 11, 2018 09:58 PM (KP5rU)

267
JFK, as I recall, took things to a bad B-movie script level. Messing around with a known East German intel asset, at the WH. At the height of the Cold War. Reckless doesn't begin to describe it.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2018 09:46 PM (QDnY+)

LBJ was just as bad, but as far as I know, and I could be wrong, he wasn't doing spies and Mafia molls like JFK. Mostly secretaries and his wife's "friends" and other female acquaintances.

Posted by: stace at January 11, 2018 09:59 PM (6HFDU)

268 Get your own schtick, buddy. Sniglets are mine.

Posted by: Rich Hall at January 11, 2018 09:59 PM (H5knJ)

269
Nobody bear say the Czech Republic is a shithole. Well, I don't really care, just give me some of their babes.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 11, 2018 09:59 PM (8O3HH)

270 Schlichter's twitter has some good stuff on the freakout du jour.


You'll be stunned and disappointed to hear that Bill Kristol has jumped in with a lame and off-point bit of flat snark.


But I'm sure the idiots we all know who - absurdly - consider Trump "racist" will now just beclown themselves even further/deeper over this.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2018 09:59 PM (QDnY+)

271 Bill Kristol is a shithole.

Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 11, 2018 10:00 PM (5ng19)

272 Nobody bear say the Czech Republic is a shithole. Well, I don't really care, just give me some of their babes.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 11, 2018 09:59 PM (8O3HH)

Is it actually officially Czechia now, or was that just some ginned up UN bullshittery?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 11, 2018 10:01 PM (T28di)

273 Nice people do damage all the time.
Posted by: thathalfrican - the calm before the storm at January 11, 2018 09:41 PM (IYHxL)
~~~~~

Perhaps. But a nice person wouldn't do damage intentionally, and having an affair is a choice one makes, ergo, intentional.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 11, 2018 10:01 PM (HiDrR)

274 Ont is nood!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 11, 2018 10:01 PM (fA1SL)

275 The priest who performed our wedding was from NZ.

He was kind of a douche. No one much liked him, but he head priest at our church for years anyway.

Posted by: stace at January 11, 2018 10:02 PM (6HFDU)

276 Perhaps. But a nice person wouldn't do damage intentionally, and having an affair is a choice one makes, ergo, intentional.
Posted by: IrishEi at January 11, 2018 10:01 PM (HiDrR)

I'll only throw this out there an leave it lie without further argument, but some choices are more intentional than others.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 11, 2018 10:02 PM (T28di)

277 >> Is it actually officially Czechia now, or was that just some ginned up UN bullshittery?

---------------

I don't know, I'd have to look it up. I don't know what they call it in their native tongue.

Me I'll just call it Pussy Galoria.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at January 11, 2018 10:02 PM (8O3HH)

278 New Zealand's great but I'd definitely want to be on the South Island, spectacular and less populous, which would over time get a bit monotonous for me, in some ways. But that's a matter of taste and personal interests.


But everyone who can should visit. Those physically able and inclined towards vigorous outdoor adventures will find paradise.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 11, 2018 10:03 PM (QDnY+)

279 No one is special.
Anyone is capable of doing anything.


Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 11, 2018 09:45 PM (5ng19)

Nonsense, Mortimer. I say good breeding begets good people.
Care to put a wager on it?

Posted by: Randolph Duke, waving a dollar in your face at January 11, 2018 10:04 PM (z79tQ)

280 I feel differently than you do, Ace. I do think the governor's behavior shows a foolish lack of self-control. Yeah, locker room banter about pussies and tits, I know it goes on, but photographing one's mistress in that position in a state of undress shows a certain intentionality and planning. I don't give a shit frankly how his wife feels about it: I don't think highly of enablers.

I get that men think their sexual natures are so strong and difficult to control. What separates the unwise from the wise is the ability to harness and control urges. I mean, we are all born shitting our britches, Ace. That is human nature, the urge to crap and all. Why bother controlling ourselves since it's a strong, uncontrollable urge? There is no difference between the diaper-loading toddler and the adult who cheats on his or her spouse: lack of self-control. Stop giving passes to people who won't practice self-control out of respect for themselves and others. This whole scenario sums Up societal issues.

Damn it, expect more from people. Quit lowering standards.

Posted by: Shit This Shit That at January 11, 2018 10:04 PM (26e2V)

281 "Nice" people are just people. Hiding.

Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 11, 2018 10:04 PM (5ng19)

282 And waiting for an opportunity to fuck you over.

Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 11, 2018 10:06 PM (5ng19)

283 Ont is nood!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at January 11, 2018 10:01 PM (fA1SL)

OH NO!
You
will
not
Willow
ME!!!1!11!

TURN THESE MACHINES BACK ON!!

Posted by: Randolph Duke, waving a dollar in your face at January 11, 2018 10:07 PM (z79tQ)

284 All I know about this guy is that the NRA endorsed his democrat opponent so he must have been a piece of work.

Posted by: doug at January 11, 2018 10:14 PM (89il5)

285 "People are sinful by nature and are going to sin"

-ace

Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 11, 2018 10:16 PM (5ng19)

286 While I take your point about the hypocrisy, I'm still going to condemn the infidelity. Adultery is corrosive to the family. I'm approaching retirement, so most of this is behind me, but the adultery-inspired divorces I've seen friends go through are deeply painful. The left-behind women, and especially the daughters are basicly ruined from that point forward. Little girls grow up thinking that their dads rode in on these great white horses and swept their moms off their feet. When it turns out that Dad is a cad, that little girl can't fully commit to their future husband.

I get it that some marriages just fail (been there, done that). But if you're in a marriage that you've concluded is doomed, then do everyone a favor and man (or woman) up and get out before you go looking for a "little strange".

Posted by: Action Jackson is my name. Bold adventure is my game. at January 11, 2018 10:41 PM (ysIvy)

287 My take on this is that Eric Greitens is either too stupid or too impulsive to take seriously. He responded to a casual flirtation, had a brief affair, and allegedly brought this woman to his home to engage in light bondage (someone he didn't know well!). He did this in 2015 when he was gearing up for a gubernatorial campaign. Tremendously reckless behavior. If he also snapped a photo of her, he's a nasty creep as well.

He'll survive in office or fall based on how much comes out, how he handles the public relations, and whether the state GOP will stand by him.

He can kiss higher office goodbye. Why would anyone trust this goofball has decent judgement? It remains to be seen if he can get reelected. Sen. David Vitter got reelected once in Louisiana.

I'm not going to take up a pitchfork and torch against this idiot, but if he sends me a campaign letter looking for donations I'm going to send it back telling him to get lost.

Posted by: Jill v2 at January 11, 2018 10:46 PM (F18as)

288 Moral posturing.


The last refuge of the self-righteous hypocrite.

Posted by: Day that ends in Y at January 11, 2018 10:56 PM (5ng19)

289 Dennis Prager talks about this. Do you care if your heart surgeon is a cheating ahole? Would you choose a doctor based on his or her skills, or on the morality of their private life?

Posted by: Monika at January 11, 2018 11:36 PM (SJphO)

290 Heh. I used to tell folks back in the late 90's that I didn't care if Al and Bill got it on in the Oval Office; that didn't matter. In the Monica Lewinsky case is was an issue of quid-pro-quo, to which Clinton lied about the affair under oath, losing his license to practice law.

Posted by: jim at January 12, 2018 12:32 AM (gjGvH)

291 I also never cared about where Bill Clinton put his dick.

I DID care about him doing it in the Oval Office, because it was an insult to the American people who have treated his office with respect.

I also think that if you lie to the mother or father of your child repeatedly, then I have no reason to believe that you will be honest in your dealings with me.

Infidelity means not being faithful....ie LYING.

Posted by: True the Note at January 12, 2018 12:33 AM (HLTe8)

292 New to site, great content and writing..

Posted by: Joe at January 12, 2018 06:53 AM (ad62+)

293 "Now I know the NeverTrump cucks will say..."


You know what's pissed me off about you for the last couple of years Ace? It's not that you were going to come over to the darkside, but it's the fact that it's took you so fucking long....and the hand wringing while you were doing it, oy.

Posted by: DFCtomm at January 12, 2018 07:08 AM (50gG9)

294 Disagree.

Infidelity counts, because if they'll cheat on their spouse -- who they love and need -- then they'll cheat you.

Advice: If you have a cheater who works for you, and you need them because of their talents or competency, then you SHOULD care. And watch them like a hawk.

Posted by: Sweet Lou at January 12, 2018 09:38 AM (4DuI9)

295 Greitens is definitely trying to run for president. That's all he's done since getting elected. He owns http://ericgreitensforpresident.com/ has for a while. He's not a particularly good governor because he seems to be just trying to plan for a presidential run.

Posted by: Blooshier at January 12, 2018 10:59 AM (kE7hI)

296 Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 11, 2018 08:58 PM (2DOZq)

This. Didn't we deport a Russian spy who used seduction to get her information?

Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at January 12, 2018 11:28 AM (cvpwh)

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