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Donald Trump the Right Man at the Right Time [Warden]
If you didn't already know that today's media is nothing more than a propaganda arm for the left, an easy giveaway would be their reaction to the Trump presidency. Just about every mainstream political analyst will tell you how much he loves the history, strategy and workings of politics. That, of course, isn't true at all. Media members are passionate about their political opinions and they certainly do get excited when they think they've won a political victory, but that is simply common partisanship, not a true interest in politics as a field of study.
To a truly dispassionate observer of political strategy and history, the rise of Donald Trump would be the event of a lifetime. His emergence and later success would evoke interest, not animosity. His presidency was a Black Swan event that any non-partisan would be immensely motivated to deconstruct. How and why did this blustering, uncouth, under funded, politically inexperienced outsider succeed when the odds appeared to be so stacked against him? I'm not qualified to say, but I do think he has one quality that is critical to understanding his impact and it is that Donald Trump is the only person I know in America that actually possesses fuck you money. You've probably heard people talk about fuck you money. Maybe you've talked about it yourself -- the idea of having enough wealth that you don't have to take any shit from anyone ever again. It's an attractive proposition, to say the least. But for Americans not named Donald Trump, fuck you money is a myth. There isn't one single high profile wealthy person that can't be made to bow to the right kind of pressure. We've seen this demonstrated countless times as the social justice warriors of the left target, isolate, and humiliate powerful people into giving public apologies for the most trivial offenses. Why, you might ask yourself, don't these people just stand up for themselves? They've got plenty of money. They should be untouchable.The reason is that fuck you money isn't just about the money. It's about how one values money. Wealthy people are usually materialistic, but they're not primarily interested in the utility of material things. What they're interested in is the status attached to the things that they buy. It's true that money doesn't buy happiness, but having a good deal of it helps. The problem is that diminishing returns apply to the amount of satisfaction it can purchase. Does a $500,000 car bring five times the happiness of a $100,000 car? Its pretty clear that it does not. At a certain point, the primary difference between luxury goods is the status that they confer upon their respective owners. What wealthy people value primarily is status. And that is why they do not truly have fuck you money--because they care what people think and this is not something that money can buy. Which brings us back to Donald Trump. President Trump has fuck you money because he defines success differently than do other people at his level of wealth. He cannot be shamed into or out of a particular action or position because he simply does not care how the chattering class views him. This, alone, makes him a fascinating character and one deserving of study. I also believe it's what makes Donald Trump such a uniquely effective politician. It's this quality that has Trump's opponents spinning like tops. They've gone back to the same playbook for so many years that they don't know how to adapt to someone who is immune to their historically most potent attacks. Trump has ripped back the curtain on the wizards of public shaming and revealed them to be powerless crybabies. But he's the only man who could do it. He had both the money and the attitude necessary to the task. His supporters grasped the importance of this unique advantage early. I am not alone in this assessment. What is less obvious is exactly what it is that makes Donald Trump tick. He loves to talk about winning, but how does he define winning for himself? My best guess is that it's getting things done when other people say you can't. It's an internally motivated, fuck you approach to life that I don't think most politicians possess. Pundits on both the left and right have asserted that Hillary Clinton is the only possible candidate that a guy like Trump could have beaten. While I think that she was a terrible candidate, I also believe that they have it backwards. I don't think a single GOP candidate could've beaten Hillary other than Trump, as he was the only one who inspired enthusiasm within the frustrated and dispirited base. I've heard rumors that people who actually know Donald Trump say that the man they know is nothing like the one you see on television. I suspect that this is true and that most of what you see is a clever act designed both to appeal to his supporters and to frustrate his opponents. I also believe that Donald Trump is far more intelligent and capable than his opponents and even many of his supporters believe him to be. This video of a young Donald Trump on the David Letterman show in the 1980's gives some insight toward the man. It's worth noting that he was banging the drum about our "allies" taking advantage of us 30 years ago. Also notice how intelligent and well spoken he is. Did he somehow lose all his smarts as he grew older or is this interview a glimpse of the man behind the mask? The big question as we move past Donald Trump's first year in office is whether Trumpism is a force that is dependent on the man bearing its title or whether it's a cultural and political wave that will retain its power when he leaves. I don't have the answer to this question, but I think it can be confidently asserted that there is no returning to the status quo after Donald Trump has exited the stage. We are at a different place now--one that is simultaneously more visceral, raw and honest.
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Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2017 07:59 PM (Pz4pT)
2
turtle doves
Posted by: Hands at December 22, 2017 08:00 PM (EzdLW)
3
french hens
Posted by: Hands at December 22, 2017 08:00 PM (EzdLW)
4
And now Trump is POTUS, and Letterman is a creepy retired has-been.
Posted by: logprof at December 22, 2017 08:01 PM (GsAUU)
5
Golden tuques!
Posted by: logprof at December 22, 2017 08:03 PM (GsAUU)
6
Ahhhhh. Baby got a butthurt.
im Acosta@Acosta
Not only did Trump skip tradition of year end WH news conf. He continued to bash media (well...except one fav news outlet) en route to Mar-a-Lago.
im Acosta@Acosta
Not only did Trump skip tradition of year end WH news conf. He continued to bash media (well...except one fav news outlet) en route to Mar-a-Lago.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 22, 2017 08:04 PM (+y/Ru)
7
Whether Trumpism outlives Trump's time in office or not, I really think he has given non-statists a template or a new paradigm in how to operate. Be audacious, bold, don't give an inch, stand up to the phony baloney media, BE AMERICAN. Fight and fight some more.
I think warring with the press has given some repubs a bit of spine. Their Stockholm syndrome might be receding.
I think warring with the press has given some repubs a bit of spine. Their Stockholm syndrome might be receding.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:05 PM (+Tibp)
8
FBI busts a planned Christmas Muzzie terror attack in Frisco.
BREAKING: Former U.S. Marine arrested, accused of plotting a Christmas terror attack in San Francisco, targeting Pier 39, suspect had no escape plan; he planned to die, according to court documents
In a raid on his house, @PaulaReidCBS reports that the FBI found a letter, aimed by the suspect, taking credit for an attack. The letter reference @POTUS and Jerusalem, "you've allowed Donald J. Trump to give away Al Quds to the Jews."
BREAKING: Former U.S. Marine arrested, accused of plotting a Christmas terror attack in San Francisco, targeting Pier 39, suspect had no escape plan; he planned to die, according to court documents
In a raid on his house, @PaulaReidCBS reports that the FBI found a letter, aimed by the suspect, taking credit for an attack. The letter reference @POTUS and Jerusalem, "you've allowed Donald J. Trump to give away Al Quds to the Jews."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 22, 2017 08:05 PM (+y/Ru)
9
That is all well stated.
However.
I demand to know why this recipe is not in The Book.
http://bit.ly/2perJCX
However.
I demand to know why this recipe is not in The Book.
http://bit.ly/2perJCX
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Now with Santa hat. Hopping all around. at December 22, 2017 08:05 PM (dEQP3)
10
I am uncomfortable being in this thread without a third party female being present.
Preferably, without pants.
I am uncomfortable being in this thread without a third party female being present.
Preferably, without pants.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 22, 2017 08:06 PM (T/KY7)
11
Commenting before this one gets disappeared, which it will.
Posted by: BurtTC
Why would that happen?
Commenting before this one gets disappeared, which it will.
Posted by: BurtTC
Why would that happen?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (IqV8l)
12
>>I demand to know why this recipe is not in The Book.
You are just gonna turn all the Threads into Book Threads, aren't you?
I think this is all just an artful assault of the pantsless.
You are just gonna turn all the Threads into Book Threads, aren't you?
I think this is all just an artful assault of the pantsless.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (zWJgd)
13
12 >>I demand to know why this recipe is not in The Book.
You are just gonna turn all the Threads into Book Threads, aren't you?
I think this is all just an artful assault of the pantsless.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (zWJgd)
Well, we are asking for it. Do you see how we aren't dressed?!
You are just gonna turn all the Threads into Book Threads, aren't you?
I think this is all just an artful assault of the pantsless.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (zWJgd)
Well, we are asking for it. Do you see how we aren't dressed?!
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 08:08 PM (NWiLs)
14
Commenting before this one gets disappeared, which it will.
Posted by: BurtTC
Why would that happen?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (IqV8l)
Ace post got stomped, just below it.
Posted by: BurtTC
Why would that happen?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (IqV8l)
Ace post got stomped, just below it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2017 08:08 PM (Pz4pT)
15
Due to an odd quirk of timing, a Japanese rocket and a SpaceX rocket will launch about 1 minute apart tonight, and 8:26 and 8:27 pm EST respectively.
I think this is the Japanese webcast, but I'm not certain, since it's in Japanese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTScolqEcr8
Here is the SpaceX webcast, which has already started:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdjCwo6d3Q
I think this is the Japanese webcast, but I'm not certain, since it's in Japanese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTScolqEcr8
Here is the SpaceX webcast, which has already started:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdjCwo6d3Q
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:08 PM (sdi6R)
16
I think warring with the press has given some repubs a bit of spine. Their Stockholm syndrome might be receding.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:05 PM
Hundred bucks says they go back to being spineless pussies.
I think warring with the press has given some repubs a bit of spine. Their Stockholm syndrome might be receding.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:05 PM
Hundred bucks says they go back to being spineless pussies.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:09 PM (IqV8l)
17
Nobody wants to wish me a "Good Night"-?
I'll keep my prayers to myself and hoist them where I can't spill a beer on them.
*harumph*
G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!
*static*
I'll keep my prayers to myself and hoist them where I can't spill a beer on them.
*harumph*
G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!
*static*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 22, 2017 08:10 PM (Ckg4U)
18
Looks like a beautiful twilight at Vandenberg.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:10 PM (sdi6R)
19
Stompenwaffels!
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 08:10 PM (NWiLs)
20
It's hard to believe that there was one point during the campaign that I thought Trump might have been planted by Hillary! I still thought he'd govern as a NY left of center that cared more for good press than good accomplishments.
Whoof, was I wrong. Best President in my lifetime.
Whoof, was I wrong. Best President in my lifetime.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:11 PM (+Tibp)
21
Ace post got stomped, just below it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2017 08:08 PM
Ha! I didn't even see that one!
Ace post got stomped, just below it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2017 08:08 PM
Ha! I didn't even see that one!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:11 PM (IqV8l)
22
Goodnight, Slap.
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 08:11 PM (NWiLs)
23
Goodnight, Slap. I'm busy trying to comment in two threads simultaneously.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:11 PM (sdi6R)
24
Slap, it's 17:14... where are you, Istanbul?
And why are you in Istanbul? Dates? Hashish? Defiled Farm Animals?
Slap, it's 17:14... where are you, Istanbul?
And why are you in Istanbul? Dates? Hashish? Defiled Farm Animals?
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 22, 2017 08:11 PM (T/KY7)
25
I admire Trump's patience. He never once says, 'none of your damn business.' I would have.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 22, 2017 08:12 PM (xJa6I)
26
Donald Trump the Right Man at the Right Time [Warden]
If you didn't already know that today's media is nothing more than a propaganda arm for the left, an easy giveaway would be their reaction to the Trump presidency. Just about every mainstream political analyst will tell you how much he loves the history, strategy and workings of politics. That, of course, isn't true at all. Media members are passionate about their political opinions and they certainly do get excited when they think they've won a political victory, but that is simply common partisanship, not a true interest in politics as a field of study.
To a truly dispassionate observer of political strategy and history, the rise of Donald Trump would be the event of a lifetime. His emergence and later success would evoke interest, not animosity. His presidency was a Black Swan event that any non-partisan would be immensely motivated to deconstruct.
How and why did this blustering, uncouth, under funded, politically inexperienced outsider succeed when the odds appeared to be so stacked against him? I'm not qualified to say, but I do think he has one quality that is critical to understanding his impact and that is that Donald Trump is the only person I know in America that actually possesses fuck you money.
You've probably heard people talk about fuck you money. Maybe you've talked about it yourself -- the idea of having enough wealth that you don't have to take any shit from anyone every again. It's an attractive proposition, to say the least.
But for Americans not named Donald Trump, fuck you money is a myth. There isn't one single high profile wealthy person that can't be made to bow to the right kind of pressure. We've seen this demonstrated countless times as the social justice warriors of the left target, isolate, and humiliate powerful people into giving public apologies for the most trivial offenses.
Why, you might ask yourself, don't these people just stand up for themselves? They've got plenty of money. They should be untouchable.
The reason is that fuck you money isn't just about the money. It's about how one values money.
Wealthy people are usually materialistic, but they're not primarily interested in the utility of material things. What they're interested in is the status attached to the things that they buy. It's true that money doesn't buy happiness, but having a good deal of it helps. The problem is that diminishing returns apply to the amount of satisfaction it can purchase. Does a $500,000 care bring five times the happiness of a $100,000 car? Its pretty clear that it does not. At a certain point the primary difference between luxury goods is the status that they confer upon their respective owners.
What wealthy people value primarily is status. And that is why they do not truly have fuck you money--because they care what people think and this is not something that money can buy.
Which brings us back to Donald Trump. President Trump has fuck you money because he defines success differently than do other people at his level of wealth. He cannot be shamed into or out of a particular action or position because he simply does not care how the chattering class views him. This, alone, makes him a fascinating character and one deserving of study. I also believe it's what makes Donald Trump such a uniquely effective politician.
It's this quality that has Trump's opponents spinning like tops. They've gone back to the same playbook for so many years that they don't know how to adapt who is immune to their historically most potent attacks. He has ripped back the curtain on the wizards of public shaming and revealed them to be powerless crybabies.
But he's the only man who could do it. He had both the money and the attitude necessary to the task. His supporters grasped the importance of this unique advantage early.
I am not alone in this assessment. What is less obvious is exactly what it is that makes Donald Trump tick. He loves to talk about winning, but how does he define winning for himself? My best guess is that it's getting things done when other people say you can't. It's an internally motivate, fuck you approach to life that I don't think most politicians possess.
Pundits on both the left and right have asserted that Hillary Clinton is the only possible candidate that a guy like Trump could have beaten. While I think that she was a terrible candidate, I also believe that they have it backwards. I don't think a single GOP candidate could've beaten Hillary other than Trump, as he was the only one who inspired enthusiasm within the frustrated and dispirited base.
I've heard rumors that people who actually know Donald Trump say that the man they know is nothing like the one you see on television. I suspect that this is true and that most of what you see is a clever act designed both to appeal to his supporters and to frustrate his opponents.
I also believe that Donald Trump is far more intelligent and capable than his opponents and even many of his supporters believe him to be. This video of a young Donald Trump on the David Letterman show in the 1980's gives some insight toward the man. It's worth noting that he was banging the drum about our "allies" taking advantage of us 30 years ago. Also notice how intelligent and well spoken he is. Did he somehow lose all his smarts as he grew older or is this interview a glimpse of the man behind the mask?
The big question as we move past Donald Trump's first year in office is whether Trumpism is a force that is dependent on the man bearing its title or whether it's a cultural and political wave that will retain its power when he leaves.
I don't have the answer to this question, but I think it can be confidently asserted that there is no returning to the status quo after Donald Trump has exited the stage. We are at a different place now--one that is simultaneously more visceral, raw and honest.
Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:03 PM
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1 Commenting before this one gets disappeared, which it will.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2017 07:59 PM (Pz4pT)
2 turtle doves
Posted by: Hands at December 22, 2017 08:00 PM (EzdLW)
3 french hens
Posted by: Hands at December 22, 2017 08:00 PM (EzdLW)
4 And now Trump is POTUS, and Letterman is a creepy retired has-been.
Posted by: logprof at December 22, 2017 08:01 PM (GsAUU)
5 Golden tuques!
Posted by: logprof at December 22, 2017 08:03 PM (GsAUU)
6 Ahhhhh. Baby got a butthurt.
im Acosta@Acosta
Not only did Trump skip tradition of year end WH news conf. He continued to bash media (well...except one fav news outlet) en route to Mar-a-Lago.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 22, 2017 08:04 PM (+y/Ru)
7 Whether Trumpism outlives Trump's time in office or not, I really think he has given non-statists a template or a new paradigm in how to operate. Be audacious, bold, don't give an inch, stand up to the phony baloney media, BE AMERICAN. Fight and fight some more.
I think warring with the press has given some repubs a bit of spine. Their Stockholm syndrome might be receding.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:05 PM (+Tibp)
8 FBI busts a planned Christmas Muzzie terror attack in Frisco.
BREAKING: Former U.S. Marine arrested, accused of plotting a Christmas terror attack in San Francisco, targeting Pier 39, suspect had no escape plan; he planned to die, according to court documents
In a raid on his house, @PaulaReidCBS reports that the FBI found a letter, aimed by the suspect, taking credit for an attack. The letter reference @POTUS and Jerusalem, "you've allowed Donald J. Trump to give away Al Quds to the Jews."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 22, 2017 08:05 PM (+y/Ru)
9 That is all well stated.
However.
I demand to know why this recipe is not in The Book.
http://bit.ly/2perJCX
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Now with Santa hat. Hopping all around. at December 22, 2017 08:05 PM (dEQP3)
10
I am uncomfortable being in this thread without a third party female being present.
Preferably, without pants.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 22, 2017 08:06 PM (T/KY7)
11
Commenting before this one gets disappeared, which it will.
Posted by: BurtTC
Why would that happen?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (IqV8l)
12 >>I demand to know why this recipe is not in The Book.
You are just gonna turn all the Threads into Book Threads, aren't you?
I think this is all just an artful assault of the pantsless.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (zWJgd)
13 12 >>I demand to know why this recipe is not in The Book.
You are just gonna turn all the Threads into Book Threads, aren't you?
I think this is all just an artful assault of the pantsless.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (zWJgd)
Well, we are asking for it. Do you see how we aren't dressed?!
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 08:08 PM (NWiLs)
14 Commenting before this one gets disappeared, which it will.
Posted by: BurtTC
Why would that happen?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (IqV8l)
Ace post got stomped, just below it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2017 08:08 PM (Pz4pT)
15 Due to an odd quirk of timing, a Japanese rocket and a SpaceX rocket will launch about 1 minute apart tonight, and 8:26 and 8:27 pm EST respectively.
I think this is the Japanese webcast, but I'm not certain, since it's in Japanese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTScolqEcr8
Here is the SpaceX webcast, which has already started:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdjCwo6d3Q
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:08 PM (sdi6R)
16
I think warring with the press has given some repubs a bit of spine. Their Stockholm syndrome might be receding.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:05 PM
Hundred bucks says they go back to being spineless pussies.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:09 PM (IqV8l)
--This says it all:
https://tinyurl.com/y8am65pr
Donald Trump the Right Man at the Right Time [Warden]
If you didn't already know that today's media is nothing more than a propaganda arm for the left, an easy giveaway would be their reaction to the Trump presidency. Just about every mainstream political analyst will tell you how much he loves the history, strategy and workings of politics. That, of course, isn't true at all. Media members are passionate about their political opinions and they certainly do get excited when they think they've won a political victory, but that is simply common partisanship, not a true interest in politics as a field of study.
To a truly dispassionate observer of political strategy and history, the rise of Donald Trump would be the event of a lifetime. His emergence and later success would evoke interest, not animosity. His presidency was a Black Swan event that any non-partisan would be immensely motivated to deconstruct.
How and why did this blustering, uncouth, under funded, politically inexperienced outsider succeed when the odds appeared to be so stacked against him? I'm not qualified to say, but I do think he has one quality that is critical to understanding his impact and that is that Donald Trump is the only person I know in America that actually possesses fuck you money.
You've probably heard people talk about fuck you money. Maybe you've talked about it yourself -- the idea of having enough wealth that you don't have to take any shit from anyone every again. It's an attractive proposition, to say the least.
But for Americans not named Donald Trump, fuck you money is a myth. There isn't one single high profile wealthy person that can't be made to bow to the right kind of pressure. We've seen this demonstrated countless times as the social justice warriors of the left target, isolate, and humiliate powerful people into giving public apologies for the most trivial offenses.
Why, you might ask yourself, don't these people just stand up for themselves? They've got plenty of money. They should be untouchable.
The reason is that fuck you money isn't just about the money. It's about how one values money.
Wealthy people are usually materialistic, but they're not primarily interested in the utility of material things. What they're interested in is the status attached to the things that they buy. It's true that money doesn't buy happiness, but having a good deal of it helps. The problem is that diminishing returns apply to the amount of satisfaction it can purchase. Does a $500,000 care bring five times the happiness of a $100,000 car? Its pretty clear that it does not. At a certain point the primary difference between luxury goods is the status that they confer upon their respective owners.
What wealthy people value primarily is status. And that is why they do not truly have fuck you money--because they care what people think and this is not something that money can buy.
Which brings us back to Donald Trump. President Trump has fuck you money because he defines success differently than do other people at his level of wealth. He cannot be shamed into or out of a particular action or position because he simply does not care how the chattering class views him. This, alone, makes him a fascinating character and one deserving of study. I also believe it's what makes Donald Trump such a uniquely effective politician.
It's this quality that has Trump's opponents spinning like tops. They've gone back to the same playbook for so many years that they don't know how to adapt who is immune to their historically most potent attacks. He has ripped back the curtain on the wizards of public shaming and revealed them to be powerless crybabies.
But he's the only man who could do it. He had both the money and the attitude necessary to the task. His supporters grasped the importance of this unique advantage early.
I am not alone in this assessment. What is less obvious is exactly what it is that makes Donald Trump tick. He loves to talk about winning, but how does he define winning for himself? My best guess is that it's getting things done when other people say you can't. It's an internally motivate, fuck you approach to life that I don't think most politicians possess.
Pundits on both the left and right have asserted that Hillary Clinton is the only possible candidate that a guy like Trump could have beaten. While I think that she was a terrible candidate, I also believe that they have it backwards. I don't think a single GOP candidate could've beaten Hillary other than Trump, as he was the only one who inspired enthusiasm within the frustrated and dispirited base.
I've heard rumors that people who actually know Donald Trump say that the man they know is nothing like the one you see on television. I suspect that this is true and that most of what you see is a clever act designed both to appeal to his supporters and to frustrate his opponents.
I also believe that Donald Trump is far more intelligent and capable than his opponents and even many of his supporters believe him to be. This video of a young Donald Trump on the David Letterman show in the 1980's gives some insight toward the man. It's worth noting that he was banging the drum about our "allies" taking advantage of us 30 years ago. Also notice how intelligent and well spoken he is. Did he somehow lose all his smarts as he grew older or is this interview a glimpse of the man behind the mask?
The big question as we move past Donald Trump's first year in office is whether Trumpism is a force that is dependent on the man bearing its title or whether it's a cultural and political wave that will retain its power when he leaves.
I don't have the answer to this question, but I think it can be confidently asserted that there is no returning to the status quo after Donald Trump has exited the stage. We are at a different place now--one that is simultaneously more visceral, raw and honest.
Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:03 PM
Comments
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1 Commenting before this one gets disappeared, which it will.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2017 07:59 PM (Pz4pT)
2 turtle doves
Posted by: Hands at December 22, 2017 08:00 PM (EzdLW)
3 french hens
Posted by: Hands at December 22, 2017 08:00 PM (EzdLW)
4 And now Trump is POTUS, and Letterman is a creepy retired has-been.
Posted by: logprof at December 22, 2017 08:01 PM (GsAUU)
5 Golden tuques!
Posted by: logprof at December 22, 2017 08:03 PM (GsAUU)
6 Ahhhhh. Baby got a butthurt.
im Acosta@Acosta
Not only did Trump skip tradition of year end WH news conf. He continued to bash media (well...except one fav news outlet) en route to Mar-a-Lago.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 22, 2017 08:04 PM (+y/Ru)
7 Whether Trumpism outlives Trump's time in office or not, I really think he has given non-statists a template or a new paradigm in how to operate. Be audacious, bold, don't give an inch, stand up to the phony baloney media, BE AMERICAN. Fight and fight some more.
I think warring with the press has given some repubs a bit of spine. Their Stockholm syndrome might be receding.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:05 PM (+Tibp)
8 FBI busts a planned Christmas Muzzie terror attack in Frisco.
BREAKING: Former U.S. Marine arrested, accused of plotting a Christmas terror attack in San Francisco, targeting Pier 39, suspect had no escape plan; he planned to die, according to court documents
In a raid on his house, @PaulaReidCBS reports that the FBI found a letter, aimed by the suspect, taking credit for an attack. The letter reference @POTUS and Jerusalem, "you've allowed Donald J. Trump to give away Al Quds to the Jews."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 22, 2017 08:05 PM (+y/Ru)
9 That is all well stated.
However.
I demand to know why this recipe is not in The Book.
http://bit.ly/2perJCX
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Now with Santa hat. Hopping all around. at December 22, 2017 08:05 PM (dEQP3)
10
I am uncomfortable being in this thread without a third party female being present.
Preferably, without pants.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 22, 2017 08:06 PM (T/KY7)
11
Commenting before this one gets disappeared, which it will.
Posted by: BurtTC
Why would that happen?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (IqV8l)
12 >>I demand to know why this recipe is not in The Book.
You are just gonna turn all the Threads into Book Threads, aren't you?
I think this is all just an artful assault of the pantsless.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (zWJgd)
13 12 >>I demand to know why this recipe is not in The Book.
You are just gonna turn all the Threads into Book Threads, aren't you?
I think this is all just an artful assault of the pantsless.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (zWJgd)
Well, we are asking for it. Do you see how we aren't dressed?!
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 08:08 PM (NWiLs)
14 Commenting before this one gets disappeared, which it will.
Posted by: BurtTC
Why would that happen?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:07 PM (IqV8l)
Ace post got stomped, just below it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2017 08:08 PM (Pz4pT)
15 Due to an odd quirk of timing, a Japanese rocket and a SpaceX rocket will launch about 1 minute apart tonight, and 8:26 and 8:27 pm EST respectively.
I think this is the Japanese webcast, but I'm not certain, since it's in Japanese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTScolqEcr8
Here is the SpaceX webcast, which has already started:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdjCwo6d3Q
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:08 PM (sdi6R)
16
I think warring with the press has given some repubs a bit of spine. Their Stockholm syndrome might be receding.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:05 PM
Hundred bucks says they go back to being spineless pussies.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:09 PM (IqV8l)
--This says it all:
https://tinyurl.com/y8am65pr
Posted by: logprof at December 22, 2017 08:12 PM (GsAUU)
27
You are just gonna turn all the Threads into Book Threads, aren't you?
Posted by: garrett
________
Seems like AtC is trying to turn this into a Food Thread.
Posted by: garrett
________
Seems like AtC is trying to turn this into a Food Thread.
Posted by: FireHorse at December 22, 2017 08:12 PM (zkGZ8)
28
Ugh, here comes the Hillary! hack lawyer on Tucker's show.
Posted by: logprof at December 22, 2017 08:12 PM (GsAUU)
29
GOPe are not spineless, stupid, or cowardly. They are con-men, in whom confidence has been lost.
Posted by: davidt at December 22, 2017 08:12 PM (ToNUZ)
30
Great post Warden. After 8 years of PDT the spineless politicians are going to back to being the scum they have always been. There isn't another Leader in the wings.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 22, 2017 08:12 PM (Jvjwp)
31
OK, this is the Japanese webcast. My earlier link was in error.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-UyZE-LIUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-UyZE-LIUA
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:13 PM (sdi6R)
32
Damn logprof.
Posted by: Infidel at December 22, 2017 08:13 PM (EGFUD)
33
This is a pretty solid analysis I think.
Remember the ice rink in NYC? The one that dragged on for years and Trump stepped in and finished it in a matter of weeks or a few months? That got brought up a few times. It was a situation where Trump was able to do something no one else could do. It's about producing results on that thing that everyone just shrugs and says that's the way it is. Trump cuts through the bs and minutiae and gets the thing done. Even if he can't right away, he'll pivot to something else and move forward. I believe we haven't seen the end of getting rid of Ocare. He's going to stay at it until he gets it gone.
I also worry about the movement after Trump exits stage left. It's almost certainly going to see a number of grifters move in and try and hijack the movement for their own gain. Sort of like what happened after Reagan left. The GOPe came in and used the language but hollowed out the movement and turned it into milquetoast moderation.
We really do need hard people to carry the movement forward. I don't mean hard in a totalitarian or authoritarian sense, but rather someone who just keeps pounding away at the problems while keeping the Left and their lapdogs busy chasing their tails.
Remember the ice rink in NYC? The one that dragged on for years and Trump stepped in and finished it in a matter of weeks or a few months? That got brought up a few times. It was a situation where Trump was able to do something no one else could do. It's about producing results on that thing that everyone just shrugs and says that's the way it is. Trump cuts through the bs and minutiae and gets the thing done. Even if he can't right away, he'll pivot to something else and move forward. I believe we haven't seen the end of getting rid of Ocare. He's going to stay at it until he gets it gone.
I also worry about the movement after Trump exits stage left. It's almost certainly going to see a number of grifters move in and try and hijack the movement for their own gain. Sort of like what happened after Reagan left. The GOPe came in and used the language but hollowed out the movement and turned it into milquetoast moderation.
We really do need hard people to carry the movement forward. I don't mean hard in a totalitarian or authoritarian sense, but rather someone who just keeps pounding away at the problems while keeping the Left and their lapdogs busy chasing their tails.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 22, 2017 08:13 PM (4ErVI)
34
What the....
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:13 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: logprof at December 22, 2017 08:13 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 22, 2017 08:14 PM (QLvwG)
37
I just noticed the Read Aloud feature on my laptop. I can blind myself with vodka and still hear what you all say.
(I love the future.)
(I love the future.)
Posted by: FireHorse at December 22, 2017 08:14 PM (zkGZ8)
38
Trump's speaking style is repetitive positive reinforcement (or negative if he's attacking) of the type used in advertising and sales. You can already see it in the Letterman clip like when he is asked about what his life was like growing up and he just repeats that he had a wonderful family life in multiple ways with slightly different phrasing. But Americans have gotten so much stupider in the intervening years, requiring that the vocabulary that he employs now to be so limited that the repetition gets hard to take for anyone with an above-room-temperature IQ.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 22, 2017 08:14 PM (xzV6l)
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 22, 2017 08:14 PM (T/KY7)
40
Christmas Barreling!
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 08:14 PM (NWiLs)
41
It's a a Festive Christmas Barreling!
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:14 PM (zWJgd)
Posted by: jsg at December 22, 2017 08:14 PM (SAlca)
43
Dick Badstein
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:14 PM (IqV8l)
44
Ace post got stomped, just below it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2017 08:08 PM
Ha! I didn't even see that one!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:11 PM (IqV8l)
Cute critters and everything. Not reindeer, but possibly gazelles, which are some kind of weasel, I think.
But no, here we are, wall o' wording on Trump for the umpteenth time.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2017 08:08 PM
Ha! I didn't even see that one!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:11 PM (IqV8l)
Cute critters and everything. Not reindeer, but possibly gazelles, which are some kind of weasel, I think.
But no, here we are, wall o' wording on Trump for the umpteenth time.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 22, 2017 08:14 PM (Pz4pT)
45
37 I just noticed the Read Aloud feature on my laptop. I can blind myself with vodka and still hear what you all say.
(I love the future.)
Posted by: FireHorse at December 22, 2017 08:14 PM (zkGZ
Vodka in the eyes? That must hurt like a bitch!
(I love the future.)
Posted by: FireHorse at December 22, 2017 08:14 PM (zkGZ
Vodka in the eyes? That must hurt like a bitch!
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 08:15 PM (NWiLs)
46
Trump saved the last best place on Earth. Singlehanded. We saw the stuff of legends happen.
Posted by: Phildirt at December 22, 2017 08:15 PM (zx9t+)
47
Damn, there are even more bioluminescent organisms in here than the last time.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:15 PM (GsAUU)
48
Willowed from the last thread
304
Totally O/T
SpaceX launch of Iridium-4 Mission coming up here:
http://www.spacex.com/webcast
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 08:01 PM (gEvQ
304
Totally O/T
SpaceX launch of Iridium-4 Mission coming up here:
http://www.spacex.com/webcast
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 08:01 PM (gEvQ
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 08:15 PM (gEvQ8)
49
I just noticed the Read Aloud feature on my laptop. I can blind myself with vodka and still hear what you all say.
(I love the future.)
Posted by: FireHorse at December 22, 2017 08:14 PM (zkGZ
Vodka in the eyes? That must hurt like a bitch!
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 08:15 PM (NWiLs)
Soap poisoning is worser!
(I love the future.)
Posted by: FireHorse at December 22, 2017 08:14 PM (zkGZ
Vodka in the eyes? That must hurt like a bitch!
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 08:15 PM (NWiLs)
Soap poisoning is worser!
Posted by: Ralphie Parker at December 22, 2017 08:16 PM (QLvwG)
50
Thank you for your opinion and analysis. Outstanding.
I was a Cruz supporter, but even while he was alive for the R nomination, I was very worried that he could defeat Hillary. In hindsight, I like to think it would have been close in the popular vote, maybe very close to the Trump/Hillary count, but I don't believe Cruz could have gotten 270 Electoral College votes. Those Obama-to-Trump voters in the upper Midwest would have gone for Hillary, I'm afraid.
Merry Christmas, all!
I was a Cruz supporter, but even while he was alive for the R nomination, I was very worried that he could defeat Hillary. In hindsight, I like to think it would have been close in the popular vote, maybe very close to the Trump/Hillary count, but I don't believe Cruz could have gotten 270 Electoral College votes. Those Obama-to-Trump voters in the upper Midwest would have gone for Hillary, I'm afraid.
Merry Christmas, all!
Posted by: Gref at December 22, 2017 08:16 PM (AMIL/)
51
Teh Barrel defies the laws of physics, chemistry and biology.
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 08:16 PM (NWiLs)
52
Vodka in the eyes? That must hurt like a bitch!
Posted by: Insomniac
________
It doesn't hurt as bad as the shampoo tastes.
Posted by: Insomniac
________
It doesn't hurt as bad as the shampoo tastes.
Posted by: FireHorse at December 22, 2017 08:16 PM (zkGZ8)
53
And there's a Japanese rocket launching at 8:26 EST!
I don't know what the record is for two launches so close together.
I don't know what the record is for two launches so close together.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:17 PM (sdi6R)
54
See! We told you to get onboard.
Posted by: The O'Jays at December 22, 2017 08:17 PM (QLvwG)
55
Trump is the 12th president in my life and if he can catch a few breaks and stay alive, may end up as one of if not the best of all. I wish I could prove it with Vegas receipts, but I had him picked from the start.
Posted by: dartist at December 22, 2017 08:17 PM (nisXv)
56
Back from MIL's for in-law visit.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 22, 2017 08:17 PM (mpXpK)
57
logprof, I still have the opinion the media and the uniparty are all in this together, this includes 'republicans'. Those who are not in with them are the enemy. President Trump is the enemy even if he is a NY liberal, and we are the enemy because we are conservative. Plain as day. Rush hit this hard today.
Posted by: Eromero at December 22, 2017 08:18 PM (zLDYs)
58
>>I don't know what the record is for two launches so close together.
The World record?
or, just my personal best?
The World record?
or, just my personal best?
Posted by: Paolo at December 22, 2017 08:18 PM (zWJgd)
59
How, logprof? How did you do that?
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Now with Santa hat. Hopping all around. at December 22, 2017 08:18 PM (dEQP3)
60
But no, here we are, wall o' wording on Trump for the umpteenth time.
Yeah, I vote for the reindeer thread. Perhaps Warden will voluntarily unemstompen.
Yeah, I vote for the reindeer thread. Perhaps Warden will voluntarily unemstompen.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 22, 2017 08:19 PM (fuK7c)
61
57 logprof, I still have the opinion the media and the uniparty are all in this together, this includes 'republicans'. Those who are not in with them are the enemy. President Trump is the enemy even if he is a NY liberal, and we are the enemy because we are conservative. Plain as day. Rush hit this hard today.
Posted by: Eromero at December 22, 2017 08:18 PM (zLDYs)
--Thanks.
Some consolation while avoiding the cavorting beasties here in The Barrel.
Posted by: Eromero at December 22, 2017 08:18 PM (zLDYs)
--Thanks.
Some consolation while avoiding the cavorting beasties here in The Barrel.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:19 PM (GsAUU)
62
Who.... Wrinkle in the Matrix.
Who.... Wrinkle in the Matrix.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 22, 2017 08:20 PM (vIjh1)
63
It's times like this I wish I had some kind of rad setup with two monitors.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:20 PM (sdi6R)
64
59 How, logprof? How did you do that?
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Now with Santa hat. Hopping all around. at December 22, 2017 08:18 PM (dEQP3)
--I just wanted to copy a comment.
But nooooooooo, mousey had to copy every damn thing up above.
This wasn't the first time, either.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Now with Santa hat. Hopping all around. at December 22, 2017 08:18 PM (dEQP3)
--I just wanted to copy a comment.
But nooooooooo, mousey had to copy every damn thing up above.
This wasn't the first time, either.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:21 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: davidt at December 22, 2017 08:21 PM (ToNUZ)
66
No. Do NOT teach the Empress how to do that.
No. Do NOT teach the Empress how to do that.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 22, 2017 08:21 PM (vIjh1)
67
PDJT is a force of nature. I pray that God blesses him and keeps him safe.
Posted by: Jmel at December 22, 2017 08:21 PM (OeWgo)
68
we got trump because the RNCe wanted to give us the same RINO SOBs they always roll out. They have lost the base pushing the Bushes and the Rubios.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 22, 2017 08:22 PM (mpXpK)
69
The big question as we move past Donald Trump's first year in office is whether Trumpism is a force that is dependent on the man bearing its title or whether it's a cultural and political wave that will retain its power when he leaves.
Problem is, the base and the GOPe are going to learn two totally different lessons from the Trump Presidency.
The base will learn that putting the US first, being honest, firm and not taking shit off of anyone is the way to both win elections and govern effectively.
The GOPe will learn that all you need to do is be crass, boorish and dickish, and the base will be fooled into following you into whatever policy will get you invited to the really cool cocktail parties.
The big question as we move past Donald Trump's first year in office is whether Trumpism is a force that is dependent on the man bearing its title or whether it's a cultural and political wave that will retain its power when he leaves.
Problem is, the base and the GOPe are going to learn two totally different lessons from the Trump Presidency.
The base will learn that putting the US first, being honest, firm and not taking shit off of anyone is the way to both win elections and govern effectively.
The GOPe will learn that all you need to do is be crass, boorish and dickish, and the base will be fooled into following you into whatever policy will get you invited to the really cool cocktail parties.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 22, 2017 08:22 PM (A5aYW)
70
Normally I would go to full screen on SapceX now, but I have both webcasts in separate windows.
And teh Jap rocket just launched!
And teh Jap rocket just launched!
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:22 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: David Frum at December 22, 2017 08:23 PM (Tyii7)
72
No. Do NOT teach the Empress how to do that.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 22, 2017 08:21 PM (vIjh1)
Do what?
You know that I, delicate flower of innocent virtue that I am, would only ever use such ability for the growth of love and peace and happiness for all of humankind.
Namaste.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 22, 2017 08:21 PM (vIjh1)
Do what?
You know that I, delicate flower of innocent virtue that I am, would only ever use such ability for the growth of love and peace and happiness for all of humankind.
Namaste.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Now with Santa hat. Hopping all around. at December 22, 2017 08:24 PM (dEQP3)
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2017 08:24 PM (gZhuP)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2017 08:24 PM (QCX64)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 22, 2017 08:24 PM (Ckg4U)
76
And teh Jap rocket just launched!
All by it'self! It's coming right at us! It's self-aware, and hates us!
All by it'self! It's coming right at us! It's self-aware, and hates us!
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 22, 2017 08:24 PM (T/KY7)
77
Night Slapweasel!
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Now with Santa hat. Hopping all around. at December 22, 2017 08:25 PM (dEQP3)
78
As I heatedly(should not have) told a poster here back inthe heat of Trump's running for POTUS--if Trump is not elected , the HQ's, and similar places onthe Web, days are numbered.
Of course we will never know what would have happened to the HQ under Felonia , BUT we do see , in living color, what the Left IS doing even now when conservatives try to speak on campus and some of the incendiary things the Left says when the truth is spoken or reported out side academia
Trump allowed us to dodge a fatal bullet.
Trump will declare victory after four years and ......and.....the !Jebito clowns will re-assume the stage. ....
As I heatedly(should not have) told a poster here back inthe heat of Trump's running for POTUS--if Trump is not elected , the HQ's, and similar places onthe Web, days are numbered.
Of course we will never know what would have happened to the HQ under Felonia , BUT we do see , in living color, what the Left IS doing even now when conservatives try to speak on campus and some of the incendiary things the Left says when the truth is spoken or reported out side academia
Trump allowed us to dodge a fatal bullet.
Trump will declare victory after four years and ......and.....the !Jebito clowns will re-assume the stage. ....
Posted by: Redgrains at December 22, 2017 08:25 PM (WPxnj)
79
Yep, DJT is a Black Swan. And his timing couldn't have been better. After 8 years of the AA president, Hillary would have been the stake in the heart.
And I have plenty of Fuck You, without the added responsibility of the money that goes with it.
And I have plenty of Fuck You, without the added responsibility of the money that goes with it.
Posted by: RI Red - A Big, Big Winner. at December 22, 2017 08:26 PM (8hKJB)
80
But no, here we are, wall o' wording on Trump for the umpteenth time.
----------
Be thankful you're not wording on President Hillary Rodham instead...
----------
Be thankful you're not wording on President Hillary Rodham instead...
Posted by: fixerupper at December 22, 2017 08:26 PM (vIjh1)
81
75 Let's try this again...
G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!
*static*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 22, 2017 08:24 PM (Ckg4U)
--Good night, bro!
G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!
*static*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 22, 2017 08:24 PM (Ckg4U)
--Good night, bro!
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:26 PM (GsAUU)
82
Trump was a fucking madman. I had said for years we needed a madman to muscle and dick punch through all the bullshit to get things turned around. I got tired of seeing what was basically the American version of the fat roman senators year after year. I wanted a patton, but trump was close enough.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 22, 2017 08:26 PM (aMlLZ)
83
Sometimes there's a man... I won't say a hero, 'cause, what's a hero? But sometimes, there's a man. And I'm talkin' about the Donald here. Sometimes, there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place. He fits right in there. And that's the Donald.
Posted by: The Stranger at December 22, 2017 08:27 PM (ANIFC)
84
First stage separation on the Falcon 9, and fairing separation.
The Japanese rocket seems to be proceeding nominally.
The Japanese rocket seems to be proceeding nominally.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:27 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:27 PM (GsAUU)
86
my theory of what drives, or originally drove, trump to his crude self promotion is that he was from the outer boroughs, queens, and he was going to show those manhattan big shots. same with howard stern. they have a chip on their shoulder and endlessly promote and exaggerate themselves.
but having reached top dog status, having lived for one thing - himself- he now has something greater than himself to live for: the presidency and the country. i think we will see a much more modest and humble trump going forward.
but having reached top dog status, having lived for one thing - himself- he now has something greater than himself to live for: the presidency and the country. i think we will see a much more modest and humble trump going forward.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 22, 2017 08:27 PM (Pg+x7)
87
Here is Trump testifying to Congress about UN Renovations back in 2005. You can see a sensible Trump with all the hamminess toned way down. His personality is definitely there, and congruent with his persona...but I don't think this version of Trump would turn out thousands to wait in line for hours. Nevertheless, this video gives a glimpse of the guy who speaks as our President with other heads of state:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4526092/renovation
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4526092/renovation
Posted by: Stirner (@heresiologist) at December 22, 2017 08:27 PM (9zLE7)
88
Trump reeks of Optimism.
Posted by: Progressives at December 22, 2017 08:28 PM (ToNUZ)
Posted by: Japanese Chick with Fists Near Face at December 22, 2017 08:28 PM (zWJgd)
90
Yep, DJT is a Black Swan. And his timing couldn't have been better. After 8 years of the AA president, Hillary would have been the stake in the heart.
And I have plenty of Fuck You, without the added responsibility of the money that goes with it.
Posted by: RI Red - A Big, Big Winner. at December 22, 2017 08:26 PM (8hKJB)
Trump was the last ditch attempt before gunfire
And I have plenty of Fuck You, without the added responsibility of the money that goes with it.
Posted by: RI Red - A Big, Big Winner. at December 22, 2017 08:26 PM (8hKJB)
Trump was the last ditch attempt before gunfire
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 22, 2017 08:29 PM (aMlLZ)
91
LMAO O'Malley spewed the "Jesus was a refugee" bullshit on Tucker's show.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:29 PM (GsAUU)
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:30 PM (zWJgd)
93
The Japanese rocket is into the second stage burn now.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:30 PM (sdi6R)
94
Martin O'Malley: Remember Jesus was a refugee child. What would you do if he came to your borders?
Tucker Carlson: That's so stupid it's hard to respond.
Martin O'Malley: Remember Jesus was a refugee child. What would you do if he came to your borders?
Tucker Carlson: That's so stupid it's hard to respond.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:31 PM (IqV8l)
95
Refugee?
Jesus was there so the government could more efficiently count and tax his family.
Dolt.
Refugee?
Jesus was there so the government could more efficiently count and tax his family.
Dolt.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 22, 2017 08:31 PM (vIjh1)
96
The pictures of the deer in the thread below are just adorable. Just like little kids.
Posted by: Tuna at December 22, 2017 08:31 PM (jm1YL)
97
Why don't we all get drunk on New Year's Eve this year and continually cut N paste all the previous comments and original post in our subsequent comments?
Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2017 08:31 PM (QCX64)
98
This is just to get this name and link in my nic.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - NFL team sends letter to fans about 'noticeable' no-shows at home games at December 22, 2017 08:31 PM (T4n7S)
99
38 Trump's speaking style is repetitive positive reinforcement (or negative if he's attacking) of the type used in advertising and sales.
..
Which annoyed the shit out of me, for decades. Never could stand to listen to the guy for more than 30 seconds. Held my nose to vote for him, but when he actually won, in the way he won, I was finally impressed.
I like to think I'm a results-oriented person though I'm sure I have my blind spots. Trump is producing great results, and I agree that he's the right man for the times. If you look at history, sometimes an unlikely fellow, even a scoundrel, turns out to be the right man in the right place at the right time.
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Which annoyed the shit out of me, for decades. Never could stand to listen to the guy for more than 30 seconds. Held my nose to vote for him, but when he actually won, in the way he won, I was finally impressed.
I like to think I'm a results-oriented person though I'm sure I have my blind spots. Trump is producing great results, and I agree that he's the right man for the times. If you look at history, sometimes an unlikely fellow, even a scoundrel, turns out to be the right man in the right place at the right time.
Posted by: stace at December 22, 2017 08:31 PM (6HFDU)
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SpaceX is not recovering the first stage on this flight, but they are doing a practice landing into the ocean.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:32 PM (sdi6R)
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I hope to see Trump in church Sunday night, just like the past two Christmas Eves. Big Boss got a standing ovation last year, this year too. Merry Christmas y'all.
Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at December 22, 2017 08:32 PM (Jj+59)
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Martin O'Malley's hand picked successor to be governor was thumped in a state that is 2-1 Dem.
He is irrelevant.
He is irrelevant.
Posted by: jsg at December 22, 2017 08:32 PM (SAlca)
Posted by: Disgraced Ex-Prez'nit Toonces at December 22, 2017 08:32 PM (Tyii7)
Posted by: Todd Standing, Discovering Bigfoot at December 22, 2017 08:32 PM (yyMsG)
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:33 PM (zWJgd)
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... that being said, i leave you with a quote from that old hammer productions classic, "young tom trump" (1938; george arliss, paul muni, virginia mayo and freddy bartholomew):
"three cheers for mr. trump
hip hip hooray
hip hip hooray
hip hip hooray"
"three cheers for mr. trump
hip hip hooray
hip hip hooray
hip hip hooray"
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 22, 2017 08:33 PM (Pg+x7)
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Okay I would have posted this a couple of threads back, but it's still important. This is a nice chart of Federal land ownership. It's from 2004, but it shows BLM ownership as well as tribal ownership.
http://bit.ly/2Dx35jY
To summarize: NV 87.6%
OR 55.5%
AK 67%
WA 32.8%
UT 67.9%
WY 49.7%
The government does not own states in the mid West and the East coast the way that they do out here. And the current figures are higher than this. How can you be a sovereign state, when the Feds control over half the property? You can't and it's time to change that.
http://bit.ly/2Dx35jY
To summarize: NV 87.6%
OR 55.5%
AK 67%
WA 32.8%
UT 67.9%
WY 49.7%
The government does not own states in the mid West and the East coast the way that they do out here. And the current figures are higher than this. How can you be a sovereign state, when the Feds control over half the property? You can't and it's time to change that.
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 22, 2017 08:33 PM (5HBd1)
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Oh, and Trump is the first president in decades that really, truly loves his country and countrymen.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - NFL team sends letter to fans about 'noticeable' no-shows at home games at December 22, 2017 08:33 PM (T4n7S)
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Berserker, I was locked and loaded.
Now, I'm just loaded.
Now, I'm just loaded.
Posted by: RI Red - A Big, Big Winner. at December 22, 2017 08:33 PM (8hKJB)
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Knowing what we now do about Letterman can't help thinking that his seat being up high was as least in part to facilitate cleavage peeks.
Posted by: random lurker commenter at December 22, 2017 08:34 PM (dab45)
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Shutdown of the SpaceX second stage, and a good initial orbit. There will be a second second stage burn in about 41 minutes from now.
The Japanese rocket is still in the second stage burn and is looking good.
The Japanese rocket is still in the second stage burn and is looking good.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:34 PM (sdi6R)
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>>Why don't we all get drunk on New Year's Eve this year and continually cut N paste all the previous comments and original post in our subsequent comments?
Can we get high and post on Old Threads, too.
Be funny if Ace showed up at 3 pm on the 2nd and everyone was banned.
Can we get high and post on Old Threads, too.
Be funny if Ace showed up at 3 pm on the 2nd and everyone was banned.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:34 PM (zWJgd)
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Trumpism is a force that is dependent on the man bearing its title or whether it's a cultural and political wave that will retain its power when he leaves.
Sadly, no. Reagan said every generation must fight for it. After the great Reagan we turned around and voted for "Voodoo Economics" Bush. We allow him to make it through the primaries.
Every parent raising voters to be must teach their children, every Sunday school teacher, every mentor and leader must teach the children the history of America, capitalism, Reagan, Trump, and what happened to us or those tyrants lying in wait will come for us again.
Sadly, no. Reagan said every generation must fight for it. After the great Reagan we turned around and voted for "Voodoo Economics" Bush. We allow him to make it through the primaries.
Every parent raising voters to be must teach their children, every Sunday school teacher, every mentor and leader must teach the children the history of America, capitalism, Reagan, Trump, and what happened to us or those tyrants lying in wait will come for us again.
Posted by: gNewt at December 22, 2017 08:34 PM (uOL2Q)
Posted by: shibumi at December 22, 2017 08:34 PM (aT+Bx)
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"young tom trump" (1938; george arliss, paul muni, virginia mayo and freddy bartholomew)
And hold the Mayo. Hubba hubba.
"young tom trump" (1938; george arliss, paul muni, virginia mayo and freddy bartholomew)
And hold the Mayo. Hubba hubba.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:36 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:36 PM (GsAUU)
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The SpaceX first stage was another previously flown stage, but they chose not to recover it this time as it was an older version and they have plenty of newer, more advanced ones.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:36 PM (sdi6R)
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105 >>The pictures of the deer in the thread below are just adorable.
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I love the idea of a grown man in Colorado whose first thought was, "Dude, let's, like, see if he'll eat some chocolate."
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I love the idea of a grown man in Colorado whose first thought was, "Dude, let's, like, see if he'll eat some chocolate."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - NFL team sends letter to fans about 'noticeable' no-shows at home games at December 22, 2017 08:37 PM (T4n7S)
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West Virginia prosecutors will not pursue charges against a trial lawyer who allegedly funneled campaign donations to a judge who secured a $38 million verdict for one of his clients.
The investigation was prompted by a Daily Caller News Foundation report that suggested a Florida-based corporate entity unlawfully funneled thousands of dollars to Justice Robin Jean Davis' 2012 reelection bid. Davis, a Democrat, has served on the Supreme Court of Appeals of West Virginia since 1996.
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It's good to be king. Limitation of actions expired in Srptembef and the prosecutors just couldn't quite get it together in time.
The investigation was prompted by a Daily Caller News Foundation report that suggested a Florida-based corporate entity unlawfully funneled thousands of dollars to Justice Robin Jean Davis' 2012 reelection bid. Davis, a Democrat, has served on the Supreme Court of Appeals of West Virginia since 1996.
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It's good to be king. Limitation of actions expired in Srptembef and the prosecutors just couldn't quite get it together in time.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 22, 2017 08:37 PM (+y/Ru)
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>>How is this dingbat a professor?
She might be the only person on the planet who is higher than I am.
She might be the only person on the planet who is higher than I am.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:37 PM (zWJgd)
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"Why don't we all get drunk on New Year's Eve this year and continually cut N paste all the previous comments and original post in our subsequent comments?"
I will be lifting a glass of bubbly or two on the anniversary of PDT's inauguration.
I will be lifting a glass of bubbly or two on the anniversary of PDT's inauguration.
Posted by: Tuna at December 22, 2017 08:37 PM (jm1YL)
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Sometimes there's a man... I won't say a hero, 'cause, what's a hero? But sometimes, there's a man. And I'm talkin' about the Donald here. Sometimes, there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place. He fits right in there. And that's the Donald.
Posted by: The Stranger
Shut the fuck up, Donnie!
Oh, no, sorry, not you Mr Trump.
Posted by: The Stranger
Shut the fuck up, Donnie!
Oh, no, sorry, not you Mr Trump.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:38 PM (+Tibp)
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Is she hitting on Tucker?
Is she hitting on Tucker?
Posted by: fixerupper at December 22, 2017 08:38 PM (vIjh1)
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Second stage shutdown on the Japanese rocket.
So SpaceX launched later but achieved orbit first. 'Murrica!
So SpaceX launched later but achieved orbit first. 'Murrica!
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:39 PM (sdi6R)
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I continue to find it nearly impossible to dismiss the hand of God in Trump's rise and victory.
He's the kind of guy God would use too. He's not pauper from the streets, but he's the absolute opposite of who you would ever think could win. God likes to play the game that way.
He's the kind of guy God would use too. He's not pauper from the streets, but he's the absolute opposite of who you would ever think could win. God likes to play the game that way.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 22, 2017 08:39 PM (4ErVI)
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>>Is she hitting on Tucker?
No. She's high.
Might be weed?
Could be mildly tripping on mushrooms?
But, she's rocked.
No. She's high.
Might be weed?
Could be mildly tripping on mushrooms?
But, she's rocked.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:39 PM (zWJgd)
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On TuCa just now, the worst interview ever with a supposed Phd from Penn State. Vegenism is feminism.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:39 PM (+Tibp)
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Trump to me is like seeing a radio personality after listening to them for a long time. It's always shocking to see how different they actually look compared to how you imagined them. He may not look or act like the guy I imagined would ride in and kick some serious fvcking ass because it hasn't been seen or done like this before. It's a new thing and I think it's here to stay in some form or other.
Posted by: dartist at December 22, 2017 08:39 PM (nisXv)
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123
Is she hitting on Tucker?
Posted by: fixerupper at December 22, 2017 08:38 PM (vIjh1)
--No, but she probably banged someone on the search committee to land the gig.
Is she hitting on Tucker?
Posted by: fixerupper at December 22, 2017 08:38 PM (vIjh1)
--No, but she probably banged someone on the search committee to land the gig.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:40 PM (GsAUU)
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Second stage shutdown on the Japanese rocket.
So SpaceX launched later but achieved orbit first. 'Murrica!
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:39 PM
But the Japanese rocket got better MPG.
Second stage shutdown on the Japanese rocket.
So SpaceX launched later but achieved orbit first. 'Murrica!
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:39 PM
But the Japanese rocket got better MPG.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:40 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (zWJgd)
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--No, but she probably banged someone on the search committee to land the gig.
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Well.... Shes not totally ugly.
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Well.... Shes not totally ugly.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (vIjh1)
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"I love the idea of a grown man in Colorado whose first thought was, "Dude, let's, like, see if he'll eat some chocolate."
I love the look on the faces of the three hanging back. Almost like they've told the other guy "Okay we'll stand back here and you go back in and see whether the human will give the treats again."
I love the look on the faces of the three hanging back. Almost like they've told the other guy "Okay we'll stand back here and you go back in and see whether the human will give the treats again."
Posted by: Tuna at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (jm1YL)
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So anyone else in LA see the weird thing in the sky over the last 10 minutes?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (hscyr)
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One of the other things Trump mentioned during the campaign was teaching people how to be winners. He just may teach some of the folks in Congress how to do their jobs. I just wish I were more confident about the Repub party picking good candidates.
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (5HBd1)
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I don't think Trump has many thoughts on the ideologies that have been so dominant in the last century.
But that might make him the ideal president to follow Obama who was a tool of them.
But that might make him the ideal president to follow Obama who was a tool of them.
Posted by: CM9000 at December 22, 2017 08:42 PM (2S0F4)
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>>Shes not totally ugly.
She's really cute.
At least, I go for those brunettes with the big noses.
She's really cute.
At least, I go for those brunettes with the big noses.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:42 PM (zWJgd)
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Trump is like an iceberg. However much of him you see, there's more beneath the service. And Hillary is like the Titanic.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 22, 2017 08:42 PM (+y/Ru)
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137 >>Shes not totally ugly.
She's really cute.
At least, I go for those brunettes with the big noses.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:42 PM (zWJgd)
You know what it means when they have big noses, don't you?
She's really cute.
At least, I go for those brunettes with the big noses.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:42 PM (zWJgd)
You know what it means when they have big noses, don't you?
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 08:43 PM (NWiLs)
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At least, I go for those brunettes with the big noses.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:42 PM
How about Kathy Areu?
At least, I go for those brunettes with the big noses.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:42 PM
How about Kathy Areu?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 22, 2017 08:43 PM (IqV8l)
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133 "I love the idea of a grown man in Colorado whose first thought was, "Dude, let's, like, see if he'll eat some chocolate."
I love the look on the faces of the three hanging back. Almost like they've told the other guy "Okay we'll stand back here and you go back in and see whether the human will give the treats again."
Posted by: Tuna at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (jm1YL)
Wow, I must be missing one hell of a Tucker episode.
I love the look on the faces of the three hanging back. Almost like they've told the other guy "Okay we'll stand back here and you go back in and see whether the human will give the treats again."
Posted by: Tuna at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (jm1YL)
Wow, I must be missing one hell of a Tucker episode.
Posted by: josephistan at December 22, 2017 08:43 PM (ANIFC)
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The Holy Family were refugees... to Egypt fleeing Big Government!
BTW, I'm watching a film called "The Young Messiah" about 7-year-old Jesus returning to Judea. It has Sean Bean in it as a Roman named... Severus. Talk about being typecast!
BTW, I'm watching a film called "The Young Messiah" about 7-year-old Jesus returning to Judea. It has Sean Bean in it as a Roman named... Severus. Talk about being typecast!
Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2017 08:43 PM (QCX64)
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Donald Trump with one dollar would have fuck-you money.
Posted by: t-bird at December 22, 2017 08:44 PM (rg3uB)
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I just wish I were more confident about the Repub party picking good candidates.
Posted by: notsothoreau
I have no doubt the Republican party will not change, but I hope a few will draw the right conclusions and champion us in the years to come after Trump's fifth term.
Posted by: notsothoreau
I have no doubt the Republican party will not change, but I hope a few will draw the right conclusions and champion us in the years to come after Trump's fifth term.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:44 PM (+Tibp)
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134 So anyone else in LA see the weird thing in the sky over the last 10 minutes?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (hscyr)
Twilight launches are the best. The sun illuminates the second stage exhaust plume while it's mostly dark on the ground.
Expect some UFO reports and YouTube videos.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (hscyr)
Twilight launches are the best. The sun illuminates the second stage exhaust plume while it's mostly dark on the ground.
Expect some UFO reports and YouTube videos.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:44 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:46 PM (hscyr)
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:46 PM (zWJgd)
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 22, 2017 08:46 PM (T/KY7)
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Sillius Soddus!
Posted by: In Vino Veritits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx_G2a2hL6U
Thuuow him to the floor!
Posted by: In Vino Veritits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx_G2a2hL6U
Thuuow him to the floor!
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:48 PM (+Tibp)
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I think of Trump as a working-class billionaire. He understands what everyday Americans think, yet he has the savvy of a world-class businessman.
To think of him as a rookie is a mistake. Although he doesn't always know some of this inside baseball, he's a very quick study. And a long-term strategist; he's been hanging around this forever. Multiple encounters with Reagan, Nixon, the Clintons, the Perot movement, etc. He's thought a lot about this.
While he's not an instinctive conservative, his pro-American instincts usually lead him in a conservative direction. He's the most pro-American president since Reagan; it's their common trait. Also leadership. People instinctively respond to real leaders.
I was once as skeptical as could be. The president has completely won my confidence, respect and gratitude. Big Time.
To think of him as a rookie is a mistake. Although he doesn't always know some of this inside baseball, he's a very quick study. And a long-term strategist; he's been hanging around this forever. Multiple encounters with Reagan, Nixon, the Clintons, the Perot movement, etc. He's thought a lot about this.
While he's not an instinctive conservative, his pro-American instincts usually lead him in a conservative direction. He's the most pro-American president since Reagan; it's their common trait. Also leadership. People instinctively respond to real leaders.
I was once as skeptical as could be. The president has completely won my confidence, respect and gratitude. Big Time.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 22, 2017 08:48 PM (Ndje9)
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LMAO, Tucker is going to have an actual tasting of a Lizzie Warren Pow Wow Chow recipe.
I hope it's the prairie crab dip.
I hope it's the prairie crab dip.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:48 PM (GsAUU)
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Very cool that you got to see that, bebe.
I don't know what search terms to use, but there are some neat amateur YouTube videos of twilight launches. There was one taken from Miami International Airport that I remember.
I don't know what search terms to use, but there are some neat amateur YouTube videos of twilight launches. There was one taken from Miami International Airport that I remember.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:49 PM (sdi6R)
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http://bit.ly/2kHCJnx
The Plot Thickens=> Virus Found Inside DNC Server Linked To Company Based In Pakistan
The DNC hacking story just took another strange turn. According to the BBC, alleged Russian hackers responsible for infecting DNC systems, used servers linked to a company based in Pakistan.
The Plot Thickens=> Virus Found Inside DNC Server Linked To Company Based In Pakistan
The DNC hacking story just took another strange turn. According to the BBC, alleged Russian hackers responsible for infecting DNC systems, used servers linked to a company based in Pakistan.
Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 22, 2017 08:49 PM (y3aQB)
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You're welcome
Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at December 22, 2017 08:50 PM (56GKt)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, The Persistence! at December 22, 2017 08:50 PM (+y/Ru)
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To think of him as a rookie is a mistake.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives
He ain't a rookie no more! With a year under his belt, he's got the Washington process figured out very nicely.
I can't wait for Season 2
Posted by: The Gipper Lives
He ain't a rookie no more! With a year under his belt, he's got the Washington process figured out very nicely.
I can't wait for Season 2
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:50 PM (+Tibp)
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151 LMAO, Tucker is going to have an actual tasting of a Lizzie Warren Pow Wow Chow recipe.
I hope it's the prairie crab dip.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:48 PM (GsAUU)
We should send Tucker a cookbook.
I hope it's the prairie crab dip.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:48 PM (GsAUU)
We should send Tucker a cookbook.
Posted by: josephistan at December 22, 2017 08:50 PM (ANIFC)
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142 The Holy Family were refugees... to Egypt fleeing Big Government!
BTW, I'm watching a film called "The Young Messiah" about 7-year-old Jesus returning to Judea. It has Sean Bean in it as a Roman named... Severus. Talk about being typecast!
Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2017 08:43 PM (QCX64)
--They were not international refugees, since they were moving from one province of the Roman Empire to another.
Also, unlike today's "refugees," they returned within a few years to their homeland, without squatting and living off handouts.
BTW, I'm watching a film called "The Young Messiah" about 7-year-old Jesus returning to Judea. It has Sean Bean in it as a Roman named... Severus. Talk about being typecast!
Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2017 08:43 PM (QCX64)
--They were not international refugees, since they were moving from one province of the Roman Empire to another.
Also, unlike today's "refugees," they returned within a few years to their homeland, without squatting and living off handouts.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:50 PM (GsAUU)
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YES!
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:52 PM (GsAUU)
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Girthy Omelettes
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:52 PM (zWJgd)
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BTW, I'm watching a film called "The Young Messiah" about 7-year-old Jesus returning to Judea. It has Sean Bean in it as a Roman named... Severus. Talk about being typecast!
Posted by: andycanuck
I finally saw Risen yesterday. With Joseph Fiennes. Good.
Posted by: andycanuck
I finally saw Risen yesterday. With Joseph Fiennes. Good.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 08:53 PM (+Tibp)
162
Both rockets are currently in a coast phase, before second stage re-ignition and satellite deploy.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:53 PM (sdi6R)
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145 Twilight launches are the best.
i've seen plenty comm trails from vandenburgh launches. i've never seen anything that looked like this. it looked more like what you'd expect from them blowing a rocket that was going the wrong way.
i've seen plenty comm trails from vandenburgh launches. i've never seen anything that looked like this. it looked more like what you'd expect from them blowing a rocket that was going the wrong way.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:53 PM (A6+sB)
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Very few people truly don't care what people think of them, if you know where to apply the pressure. If you have zero fuck to give you are either rich indeed, live in perfect integrity, or you are a huge asshole. I even know assholes who care what particular people think. Seen it in action.
Posted by: gushka can has Rexmo what not plays fetch at December 22, 2017 08:53 PM (9G8jN)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2017 08:55 PM (QCX64)
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131
Higher re-sale values, too.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (zWJgd)
Um, the SpaceX rocket was "previously flown", while the Japanese rocket was new.
Higher re-sale values, too.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (zWJgd)
Um, the SpaceX rocket was "previously flown", while the Japanese rocket was new.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:55 PM (sdi6R)
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It's useful to see him in these old interviews. People who don't know Trump at all are ignoring a wealth of information.
Compare and contrast David Letterman here with the style of Dave Rubin. That's the archetype of the new media and its appeal over the old media. Rubin is polite, nice and extremely likable, but also a "deep listener". It is up to you to find what you don't like in a controversial guest, but the opportunity is there if you listen. If they say something bad, it comes out eventually.
Letterman, you're on every night, so let a guy talk. You don't have to spoon shitty simple questions as if this was Trump's first interview.
Compare and contrast David Letterman here with the style of Dave Rubin. That's the archetype of the new media and its appeal over the old media. Rubin is polite, nice and extremely likable, but also a "deep listener". It is up to you to find what you don't like in a controversial guest, but the opportunity is there if you listen. If they say something bad, it comes out eventually.
Letterman, you're on every night, so let a guy talk. You don't have to spoon shitty simple questions as if this was Trump's first interview.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 22, 2017 08:56 PM (rnAwa)
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Very few people truly don't care what people think of them, if you know where to apply the pressure.
There are no fucks to give.
There are no fucks to give.
Posted by: Honey Badger at December 22, 2017 08:57 PM (JpBi9)
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152 Very cool that you got to see that, bebe.
It wasn't cool, I was wondering if i was about to get vaporized by whoa fat. and no shit, never seen that come in this direction.
It wasn't cool, I was wondering if i was about to get vaporized by whoa fat. and no shit, never seen that come in this direction.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:57 PM (hscyr)
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133 "I love the idea of a grown man in Colorado whose first thought was, "Dude, let's, like, see if he'll eat some chocolate."
I saw this night last night, and apparently that's not what happened. The doe walked into a shop and the woman working there used a peanut butter bar to lure her out and get rid of her. But then the doe returned with her two fawns and a young buck.
I saw this night last night, and apparently that's not what happened. The doe walked into a shop and the woman working there used a peanut butter bar to lure her out and get rid of her. But then the doe returned with her two fawns and a young buck.
Posted by: stace at December 22, 2017 08:57 PM (6HFDU)
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163 145 Twilight launches are the best.
i've seen plenty comm trails from vandenburgh launches. i've never seen anything that looked like this. it looked more like what you'd expect from them blowing a rocket that was going the wrong way.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:53 PM (A6+sB)
I think you saw the second stage traveling forward while the first stage was going in reverse.
That is absolutely not normal for anything other than SpaceX launches.
i've seen plenty comm trails from vandenburgh launches. i've never seen anything that looked like this. it looked more like what you'd expect from them blowing a rocket that was going the wrong way.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:53 PM (A6+sB)
I think you saw the second stage traveling forward while the first stage was going in reverse.
That is absolutely not normal for anything other than SpaceX launches.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:57 PM (sdi6R)
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160 Girthy Omelettes
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:52 PM (zWJgd)
--Know, what?
When the chef described it, that dish actually sounded delicious.
A shame Fauxcahontas hijacked it. I have French family, so I detest that cultural appropriation by libtards.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:52 PM (zWJgd)
--Know, what?
When the chef described it, that dish actually sounded delicious.
A shame Fauxcahontas hijacked it. I have French family, so I detest that cultural appropriation by libtards.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:58 PM (GsAUU)
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Watching two launches at once, live on the internet. How cool is that, and one of them is on the far side of the planet. I'm starting to like this new fangled internet thingy.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 08:58 PM (gEvQ8)
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Late to the thread, but goodnight Slapweasel.
May you have the sleep of the just and the sleep of the just after.
May you have the sleep of the just and the sleep of the just after.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 22, 2017 08:58 PM (hyuyC)
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That's the first time i've seen a launch behave like that.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:46 PM (hscyr) >>>>
That's because of Anthropogenic Climate Change.
The extra CO2 in the atmosphere, combined with gravity flux density changes due to the larger and larger clump of humans in SoCal, has changed the atmospheric photonic resonance reflectance coefficient in the SoCal region.
That plus all the ash in the local air due to the recent wildfires driven by humans raping the landscape, means not only changing optical effects for ascending rockets, it also means the next launch out of Vandenberg will divert direct to your front yard.
Move now!
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:46 PM (hscyr) >>>>
That's because of Anthropogenic Climate Change.
The extra CO2 in the atmosphere, combined with gravity flux density changes due to the larger and larger clump of humans in SoCal, has changed the atmospheric photonic resonance reflectance coefficient in the SoCal region.
That plus all the ash in the local air due to the recent wildfires driven by humans raping the landscape, means not only changing optical effects for ascending rockets, it also means the next launch out of Vandenberg will divert direct to your front yard.
Move now!
Posted by: Gref at December 22, 2017 08:58 PM (AMIL/)
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>>--Know, what?
When the chef described it, that dish actually sounded delicious.
Then he patted it down, like Harvey Keitel searching a teen girl and fed it to Tucker.
When the chef described it, that dish actually sounded delicious.
Then he patted it down, like Harvey Keitel searching a teen girl and fed it to Tucker.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:59 PM (zWJgd)
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optimism...
it was long before the election and even before the primaries started that i commented here that in the face of clinton's inevitability what was d was platform of prosperity and opportunity. i cited "the price is right" for its inclusiveness: it has every class, age, race, etc. showing up and participating in good cheer.
it was long before the election and even before the primaries started that i commented here that in the face of clinton's inevitability what was d was platform of prosperity and opportunity. i cited "the price is right" for its inclusiveness: it has every class, age, race, etc. showing up and participating in good cheer.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 22, 2017 09:00 PM (Pg+x7)
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Example: I have zero fuck to give, but are what four people I love,my clients, a couple vendors and Ben Had thinks of me. OK now you have a map of where to apply leverage. Fortunately anyone who tries will find those people would react badly (towards them) if leveraged. Result: I have zero fucks to give. Lesson: pick your friends wisely, live in a way that if people talk shit they look like loons.
Posted by: gushka can has Rexmo what not plays fetch at December 22, 2017 09:00 PM (9G8jN)
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Then he patted it down, like Harvey Keitel searching a teen girl and fed it to Tucker.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:59 PM (zWJgd)
--Just like Bar Rescue: Don't pat down the burgers!!!
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 08:59 PM (zWJgd)
--Just like Bar Rescue: Don't pat down the burgers!!!
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 09:00 PM (GsAUU)
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I've heard rumors that people who actually know Donald Trump say that the man they know is nothing like the one you see on television. I suspect that this is true and that most of what you see is a clever act designed both to appeal to his supporters and to frustrate his opponents.
I am certain that this is the truth. People who deal with him personally speak of how warm, well spoken, and charming he is. His interviews tend to be very intelligent and capable in previous settings. In honesty, I think the prepared speeches he gives are more Donald Trump than the tweets and goofy off the cuff statements.
That Trump is an act, its designed to disarm, confuse, and confound his opponents while cheering and charming his supporters -- and reaching out to the bulk of the country that doesn't care for grand speeches and eloquence.
I am certain that this is the truth. People who deal with him personally speak of how warm, well spoken, and charming he is. His interviews tend to be very intelligent and capable in previous settings. In honesty, I think the prepared speeches he gives are more Donald Trump than the tweets and goofy off the cuff statements.
That Trump is an act, its designed to disarm, confuse, and confound his opponents while cheering and charming his supporters -- and reaching out to the bulk of the country that doesn't care for grand speeches and eloquence.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 22, 2017 09:01 PM (39g3+)
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Bebe's, what Gref is basically saying is that cow farts are going to kill you.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 09:02 PM (gEvQ8)
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... i didn't call it economic nationalism, but my "price is right" thesis did include some features of trump's optimistic vision.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 22, 2017 09:02 PM (Pg+x7)
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You know I didn't mean it that way, logprof. Sorry, on tablet PITA to argue with you properly.
And it's an English film so the Devil (or Dark Angel? it's early yet in the flick) is an Irishman! Also hinted at young Jesus having gone to 'Britain' although without mentioning buying tin.
And it's an English film so the Devil (or Dark Angel? it's early yet in the flick) is an Irishman! Also hinted at young Jesus having gone to 'Britain' although without mentioning buying tin.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2017 09:03 PM (QCX64)
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173 Watching two launches at once, live on the internet. How cool is that, and one of them is on the far side of the planet. I'm starting to like this new fangled internet thingy.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 08:58 PM (gEvQ
Yep! While it was great that we went to the moon in the 60s, there is much better coverage of today's launches, including live rocketcam video.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 08:58 PM (gEvQ
Yep! While it was great that we went to the moon in the 60s, there is much better coverage of today's launches, including live rocketcam video.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:03 PM (sdi6R)
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I have been thinking that Trump has been planning to be president for a long time. Not planning out his every move, because things are constqntly changing, but imagining different scenarios and what he might do in each one. So he's improvising, making it up as he goes, but all along lines he's been thinking of and "planning" for, for years. I liked Cruz best from the start, and I hate Trump's branding him as lying Ted, but I agree with those who doubt whether he (Cruz) would have won.
Re. what/who's next? The Uniparty has an opposition, and while there may be setbacks, we won't IMO return to the status quo ante. This has been percolating for a long time, and we're far from the peak of a new wave.
Nice post, Warden.
Re. what/who's next? The Uniparty has an opposition, and while there may be setbacks, we won't IMO return to the status quo ante. This has been percolating for a long time, and we're far from the peak of a new wave.
Nice post, Warden.
Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at December 22, 2017 09:03 PM (biIsL)
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>>--Just like Bar Rescue: Don't pat down the burgers!!!
You want a dry burger?
Because, that's how you get a dry burger!
Honestly, though. I prefer my omelettes closer to crepe thickness than what he was serving up.
Girth does not work for omelettes.
You want a dry burger?
Because, that's how you get a dry burger!
Honestly, though. I prefer my omelettes closer to crepe thickness than what he was serving up.
Girth does not work for omelettes.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 09:03 PM (zWJgd)
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http://dystopiausa.com/storm-week-9-crumblin/
"The Trafficking and Corruption E.O. Will Lead Right Back to the Clintons"
"The Trafficking and Corruption E.O. Will Lead Right Back to the Clintons"
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 09:03 PM (GsAUU)
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175 it also means the next launch out of Vandenberg will divert direct to your front yard. Move now!
Posted by: Gref at December 22, 2017 08:58 PM (AMIL/)
Heh. No, I like it here. Y'all can keep your real winter. It's down to 57 & i'm freezing! Fuck winter!
Posted by: Gref at December 22, 2017 08:58 PM (AMIL/)
Heh. No, I like it here. Y'all can keep your real winter. It's down to 57 & i'm freezing! Fuck winter!
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 09:05 PM (hscyr)
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The great thing about Trump is that the congress critters and the media all have their balls in an uproar, and some seriously evil crap is starting to come to light. If nothing else, he's shone a very bright light on the swamp.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 09:05 PM (gEvQ8)
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rickl thanks for the SpaceX and Japanese launch updates...
Posted by: GuyfromNH at December 22, 2017 09:05 PM (Gs5TH)
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"People don't have ideas, ideas take a hold of people."
It's not true, but it is effectively true. Trump was a mediocre candidate in 2015, a great candidate in 2016. He doesn't consider himself an intellectual, but has a terrific ability to apply what he knows to new situations and environments.
It's not true, but it is effectively true. Trump was a mediocre candidate in 2015, a great candidate in 2016. He doesn't consider himself an intellectual, but has a terrific ability to apply what he knows to new situations and environments.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 22, 2017 09:06 PM (rnAwa)
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Also hinted at young Jesus having gone to 'Britain' although without mentioning buying tin.
Posted by: andycanuck
And did those feet in ancient times, walk upon England's mountains green....
Posted by: andycanuck
And did those feet in ancient times, walk upon England's mountains green....
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 09:06 PM (+Tibp)
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180
I've heard rumors that people who actually know Donald Trump say that
the man they know is nothing like the one you see on television. I
suspect that this is true and that most of what you see is a clever act
designed both to appeal to his supporters and to frustrate his
opponents.
I am certain that this is the truth. People who deal with him
personally speak of how warm, well spoken, and charming he is. His
interviews tend to be very intelligent and capable in previous settings.
In honesty, I think the prepared speeches he gives are more Donald
Trump than the tweets and goofy off the cuff statements.
That Trump is an act, its designed to disarm, confuse, and confound
his opponents while cheering and charming his supporters -- and reaching
out to the bulk of the country that doesn't care for grand speeches and
eloquence.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 22, 2017 09:01 PM (39g3+)
Trump wears his persona like a suit and is welcome to be his own man at home. I can respect that. people can revile that public persona and it means as much to him as a fussy person disliking his suit, because thats what it is... a uniform or armor he wears for a purpose. Does not mean much if someone dislikes it or not, as long as it works. So far it works. Who his is is his business and he can keep it that way, it makes him stronger. I like his suit. it works for me.
I've heard rumors that people who actually know Donald Trump say that
the man they know is nothing like the one you see on television. I
suspect that this is true and that most of what you see is a clever act
designed both to appeal to his supporters and to frustrate his
opponents.
I am certain that this is the truth. People who deal with him
personally speak of how warm, well spoken, and charming he is. His
interviews tend to be very intelligent and capable in previous settings.
In honesty, I think the prepared speeches he gives are more Donald
Trump than the tweets and goofy off the cuff statements.
That Trump is an act, its designed to disarm, confuse, and confound
his opponents while cheering and charming his supporters -- and reaching
out to the bulk of the country that doesn't care for grand speeches and
eloquence.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 22, 2017 09:01 PM (39g3+)
Trump wears his persona like a suit and is welcome to be his own man at home. I can respect that. people can revile that public persona and it means as much to him as a fussy person disliking his suit, because thats what it is... a uniform or armor he wears for a purpose. Does not mean much if someone dislikes it or not, as long as it works. So far it works. Who his is is his business and he can keep it that way, it makes him stronger. I like his suit. it works for me.
Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 22, 2017 09:07 PM (9G8jN)
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Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 09:03 PM (zWJgd)
--If omelettes are just egg and cheese, thin is fine.
Throw in the ham and/or bacon, and I want it thick (that's what she said).
--If omelettes are just egg and cheese, thin is fine.
Throw in the ham and/or bacon, and I want it thick (that's what she said).
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 09:08 PM (GsAUU)
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#193 First thing I said to myself, Blutarski.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2017 09:08 PM (QCX64)
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Trump isn't brand new to politics. I'll bet he learned how to move around in politics to get things done from his father.
Posted by: dartist at December 22, 2017 09:08 PM (nisXv)
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Trump does have an optimistic vision of America, much like Reagan did. Though Trump's is almost entirely economic while Reagan's was economic and political.
Posted by: CM9000 at December 22, 2017 09:09 PM (2S0F4)
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I like them all thin and silky smooth.
I'd rather eat two well made omelettes than one 4-egg, oversized diner mostrosity.
A proper omelette should drape on a plate like a good fabric.
I'd rather eat two well made omelettes than one 4-egg, oversized diner mostrosity.
A proper omelette should drape on a plate like a good fabric.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 09:10 PM (zWJgd)
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I usually get Western Sandwiches for restaurant breakfast myself, logprof, to have it that way myself.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2017 09:11 PM (QCX64)
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... "the price is right" - not for the materialism, but for the appeal of opportunity, inclusiveness and prosperity.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 22, 2017 09:13 PM (Pg+x7)
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I'll take the 4 egg monstrosity. But as with everything, YMMV. Lot of different ways the world goes around.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 22, 2017 09:14 PM (hyuyC)
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The SpaceX webcast is back for a short burn.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:15 PM (sdi6R)
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Another good post, Warden. You are a very good writer.
But I'm going to hit the hay and try to beat this cold.
Have a serene night everyone. But head on a swivel and have a SECDEF Mattis plan.
But I'm going to hit the hay and try to beat this cold.
Have a serene night everyone. But head on a swivel and have a SECDEF Mattis plan.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 22, 2017 09:16 PM (hyuyC)
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On reflection, one thing many predicted a year ago that has not happened, is that PDT would make a lot of deals with the Democrats. As I recall, that prediction was based on him not having any "real" political beliefs, his history as a deal-maker, and an assumption that he would do anything to appear successful as POTUS.
I feared that, and PDT's hard-line with the Progs and Democratic pols is very pleasing to me!
PS: Not saying that was widely predicted here; it was from the pundits.
I feared that, and PDT's hard-line with the Progs and Democratic pols is very pleasing to me!
PS: Not saying that was widely predicted here; it was from the pundits.
Posted by: Gref at December 22, 2017 09:16 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at December 22, 2017 09:16 PM (+Tibp)
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Watching Bright...... If anything it may become the ultimate meme movie.
Posted by: Todd Standing, Discovering Bigfoot at December 22, 2017 09:17 PM (yyMsG)
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Trump does have an optimistic vision of America, much like Reagan did. Though Trump's is almost entirely economic while Reagan's was economic and political.
Posted by: CM9000 at December 22, 2017 09:09 PM (2S0F4)
I have to disagree a bit. I think that President Trump does have a political vision: a prosperous and strong America makes the world a more stable place and he intends to bust heads as necessary.
Posted by: CM9000 at December 22, 2017 09:09 PM (2S0F4)
I have to disagree a bit. I think that President Trump does have a political vision: a prosperous and strong America makes the world a more stable place and he intends to bust heads as necessary.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 22, 2017 09:17 PM (5Yee7)
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The DNC hacking story just took another strange turn. According to the BBC, alleged Russian hackers responsible for infecting DNC systems, used servers linked to a company based in Pakistan.
Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 22, 2017 08:49 PM (y3aQB)
That server has been penetrated more than Annabel Chong.
Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 22, 2017 08:49 PM (y3aQB)
That server has been penetrated more than Annabel Chong.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 22, 2017 09:18 PM (Eu5eZ)
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Only if needed. But have that plan -- you have situational awareness and operational planning.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 22, 2017 09:18 PM (hyuyC)
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The brief burn was good, and now we are waiting for the deployment of the 10 satellites, which will be shown live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdjCwo6d3Q
And this highlights my comment above. You simply didn't get this level of coverage of unmanned satellite launches back in the 1960s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdjCwo6d3Q
And this highlights my comment above. You simply didn't get this level of coverage of unmanned satellite launches back in the 1960s.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:19 PM (sdi6R)
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"He cannot be shamed into or out of a particular action or position because he simply does not care how the chattering class views him."
Just like Reagan. Reagan was a movie star, and was completely rooted in California - he could care less what a bunch of East Coast liberals thought of him. Besides, California liberals hated him for the eight years that Reagan was Governor, and Reagan noticed that he needed need their approval to be successful.
"I also believe that Donald Trump is far more intelligent and capable than his opponents and even many of his supporters believe him to be."
Again like Reagan. Reagan's greatest political strength is that his opponents thought he was a complete idiot, and Reagan kept humiliating them, while they kept wondering what had happened. Trump is the same way - his opponents focus on his Tweets, and not on his governing.
Just like Reagan. Reagan was a movie star, and was completely rooted in California - he could care less what a bunch of East Coast liberals thought of him. Besides, California liberals hated him for the eight years that Reagan was Governor, and Reagan noticed that he needed need their approval to be successful.
"I also believe that Donald Trump is far more intelligent and capable than his opponents and even many of his supporters believe him to be."
Again like Reagan. Reagan's greatest political strength is that his opponents thought he was a complete idiot, and Reagan kept humiliating them, while they kept wondering what had happened. Trump is the same way - his opponents focus on his Tweets, and not on his governing.
Posted by: The Arc Of History at December 22, 2017 09:19 PM (xnAyb)
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I wish our republic were more robust so that we didn't require a "right man at the right time". But yeah, here we are, and Trump is that guy.
The big question as we move past Donald Trump's first year in office is whether Trumpism is a force that is dependent on the man bearing its title or whether it's a cultural and political wave that will retain its power when he leaves.
Zombie thinks it's a sign that the left's attempts at conditioning, the long march, etc. have in a sense failed. Enough people have been able to break free and see through it eventually despite the non stop indoctrination, which is why Trump won the last election. I hope she's right. I hope it's a start of what will lead to a total rejection of socialist claptrap.
The big question as we move past Donald Trump's first year in office is whether Trumpism is a force that is dependent on the man bearing its title or whether it's a cultural and political wave that will retain its power when he leaves.
Zombie thinks it's a sign that the left's attempts at conditioning, the long march, etc. have in a sense failed. Enough people have been able to break free and see through it eventually despite the non stop indoctrination, which is why Trump won the last election. I hope she's right. I hope it's a start of what will lead to a total rejection of socialist claptrap.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 22, 2017 09:20 PM (/qEW2)
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In Tijuana, fuck you money is 75 pesos
Posted by: Pimp Juan at December 22, 2017 09:20 PM (vChNs)
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I think Trump is far smarter than he lets on, but I think the fragile ego, thin-skin act is real. That in my opinion is the quality I like least about him.
I still say most of the reason he won is he didn't take uniparty positions on trade and immigration. And he was authentic on those issues.
I think it had very little to do with Twitter or his over the top, WWF act.
You take the good with the bad, I sure as hell wouldn't want the alternative.
I still say most of the reason he won is he didn't take uniparty positions on trade and immigration. And he was authentic on those issues.
I think it had very little to do with Twitter or his over the top, WWF act.
You take the good with the bad, I sure as hell wouldn't want the alternative.
Posted by: Apache at December 22, 2017 09:20 PM (uc45P)
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The 10 Iridium satellites are beginning to separate. This will take about 15 minutes.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:22 PM (sdi6R)
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82 Trump was a fucking madman. I had said for years we needed a madman to muscle and dick punch through all the bullshit to get things turned around. I got tired of seeing what was basically the American version of the fat roman senators year after year. I wanted a patton, but trump was close enough.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 22, 2017 08:26 PM (aMlLZ)
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I'm thinking he's a Gracchi. Maybe a combo of the two. Too bad they didn't have secret service protection...
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at December 22, 2017 08:26 PM (aMlLZ)
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I'm thinking he's a Gracchi. Maybe a combo of the two. Too bad they didn't have secret service protection...
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 22, 2017 09:22 PM (vChNs)
Posted by: rabies-ridden moslem at December 22, 2017 09:26 PM (QCX64)
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I would bet anything that the Donald Trump in the Letterman clips is the real Donald Trump- modest, understated, quiet. As opposed to his now-public persona.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at December 22, 2017 09:27 PM (w7U7L)
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The Japanese rocket has had its second burn and there will be another coast phase before an additional burn.
Different rockets, different payloads, different missions, and different time frames.
Different rockets, different payloads, different missions, and different time frames.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:27 PM (sdi6R)
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"Though Trump's is almost entirely economic while Reagan's was economic and political."
Don't count out the politics - the genius of the tax bill is that the politics of the blue states are irrevocably changed.
I live in Oregon, where anybody affluent is going to be above the $10,000 limit on state and local tax deductions.
That means that affluent people in Oregon are going to pay **all** the costs of any new tax, and **all** the costs of any new bond issue - they don't get to pass off a chunk of those incremental new costs to the Feds.
This is terrifying the ruling Democrats in Oregon - new taxes and new bonds are hard to pass (even in Oregon), and the political calculus has just shifted, making it much harder to pass these things.
Don't count out the politics - the genius of the tax bill is that the politics of the blue states are irrevocably changed.
I live in Oregon, where anybody affluent is going to be above the $10,000 limit on state and local tax deductions.
That means that affluent people in Oregon are going to pay **all** the costs of any new tax, and **all** the costs of any new bond issue - they don't get to pass off a chunk of those incremental new costs to the Feds.
This is terrifying the ruling Democrats in Oregon - new taxes and new bonds are hard to pass (even in Oregon), and the political calculus has just shifted, making it much harder to pass these things.
Posted by: The Arc Of History at December 22, 2017 09:27 PM (xnAyb)
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Also, unlike today's "refugees," they returned within a few years to their homeland, without squatting and living off handouts.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:50 PM (GsAUU)
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If Egypt had our welfare system, he'd have never become a carpenter or returned to Judea. He'd be waiting for someone to hand him his bread and fishes.
So no Christianity.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:50 PM (GsAUU)
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If Egypt had our welfare system, he'd have never become a carpenter or returned to Judea. He'd be waiting for someone to hand him his bread and fishes.
So no Christianity.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 22, 2017 09:27 PM (vChNs)
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Good thing in film too is saying 'Judea' and 'Israel' and not Pali.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2017 09:28 PM (QCX64)
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Twilight launches are the best. The sun illuminates the second stage exhaust plume while it's mostly dark on the ground.
Expect some UFO reports and YouTube videos.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:44 PM (sdi6R)
I was standing on the backbone of my F-4 one dusk at Luke AFB in Glendale, Arizona. I looked over the mountains to the west and saw a rocket launch from Vandenburg AFB, CA. The setting sun hit it just right and I watched for a long time. Years later I saw a shuttle launch from W. Palm Beach, FL and if I hadn't known what it was I would have thought it was just a distant vapor trail.
Expect some UFO reports and YouTube videos.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 08:44 PM (sdi6R)
I was standing on the backbone of my F-4 one dusk at Luke AFB in Glendale, Arizona. I looked over the mountains to the west and saw a rocket launch from Vandenburg AFB, CA. The setting sun hit it just right and I watched for a long time. Years later I saw a shuttle launch from W. Palm Beach, FL and if I hadn't known what it was I would have thought it was just a distant vapor trail.
Posted by: Bill R. at December 22, 2017 09:30 PM (IuYIh)
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I once participated in a satellite launch. It was actually an old space suit which was tossed out of the back door of the space station.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 22, 2017 09:30 PM (+y0ym)
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--If omelettes are just egg and cheese, thin is fine.
Throw in the ham and/or bacon, and I want it thick (that's what she said).
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 09:08 PM (GsAUU)
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So the omelet wars have begun? I agree with logprof. To accommodate all the stuff I like, sausage, cheese, mushrooms, etc. it needs some heft to it.
Throw in the ham and/or bacon, and I want it thick (that's what she said).
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 09:08 PM (GsAUU)
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So the omelet wars have begun? I agree with logprof. To accommodate all the stuff I like, sausage, cheese, mushrooms, etc. it needs some heft to it.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 22, 2017 09:31 PM (/qEW2)
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182 ... i didn't call it economic nationalism, but my "price is right" thesis did include some features of trump's optimistic vision.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 22, 2017 09:02 PM (Pg+x7)
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Ivanka as Holly...
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at December 22, 2017 09:02 PM (Pg+x7)
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Ivanka as Holly...
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 22, 2017 09:31 PM (vChNs)
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The 7th of 10 satellites has been deployed from the SpaceX second stage.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:32 PM (sdi6R)
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This is terrifying the ruling Democrats in Oregon - new taxes and new bonds are hard to pass (even in Oregon), and the political calculus has just shifted, making it much harder to pass these things.
Posted by: The Arc Of History at December 22, 2017 09:27 PM (xnAyb)
Expect to see fees. Lots and lots of fees.
Posted by: The Arc Of History at December 22, 2017 09:27 PM (xnAyb)
Expect to see fees. Lots and lots of fees.
Posted by: random lurker commenter at December 22, 2017 09:33 PM (dab45)
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"It was actually an old space suit which was tossed out of the back door of the space station."
Really? Is it still out there?
Really? Is it still out there?
Posted by: freaked at December 22, 2017 09:34 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Miklos P.M. at December 22, 2017 09:35 PM (zCyNd)
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rickl, how cool is that crescent Earth in the background while the satellite deployments happen.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 09:35 PM (gEvQ8)
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Nice view of the 9th one separating with a few others drifting away in the background.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:35 PM (sdi6R)
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big brown turd just dropped of my christmas present my uncle, aunt and mom got me a new desktop pc {does a snoopy dance}
Posted by: jimmytheclaw at December 22, 2017 09:35 PM (11R9+)
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And this highlights my comment above. You simply didn't get this level of coverage of unmanned satellite launches back in the 1960s.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:19 PM (sdi6R)
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It's much cheaper to fake the launches now. CGI and claymation
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:19 PM (sdi6R)
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It's much cheaper to fake the launches now. CGI and claymation
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 - wearing tinfoil at December 22, 2017 09:36 PM (vChNs)
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I was standing on the backbone of my F-4 one dusk at Luke AFB in Glendale, Arizona. I looked over the mountains to the west and saw a rocket launch from Vandenburg AFB, CA. The setting sun hit it just right and I watched for a long time. ...
Posted by: Bill R. at December 22, 2017 09:30 PM (IuYIh)
We saw that this evening. In San Diego we could see the rocket flame. We also saw the 1st stage separate and begin tumbling down. I've see a few others but this one was bar far the most spectacular.
Posted by: Bill R. at December 22, 2017 09:30 PM (IuYIh)
We saw that this evening. In San Diego we could see the rocket flame. We also saw the 1st stage separate and begin tumbling down. I've see a few others but this one was bar far the most spectacular.
Posted by: DR.WTF - Duke of Righteous WTF? at December 22, 2017 09:36 PM (T71PA)
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Oh, if Trump let's the BuzzFeed staff to be extradited to Russia to face s lubel trial
Posted by: Jean at December 22, 2017 09:36 PM (ksywo)
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I voted for Trump only because the alternative was unacceptable on any level. I have also come to believe that Trump is the right man for the right time. What was needed most was someone to rip the mask off the MSM, who in my opinion have been the catalyst for the slow destruction of the country. He is doing that in spades.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 22, 2017 09:37 PM (2DOZq)
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"He cannot be shamed into or out of a particular action or position because he simply does not care how the chattering class views him."
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he looks down on the media publically. And they HATE him for it.
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he looks down on the media publically. And they HATE him for it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 - wearing tinfoil at December 22, 2017 09:37 PM (vChNs)
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And the 10th satellite has deployed!
Another successful SpaceX launch, the 18th and final one of 2017. What a great year it has been.
Another successful SpaceX launch, the 18th and final one of 2017. What a great year it has been.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:38 PM (sdi6R)
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Time for the GOP to impeach the HI judge.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2017 09:39 PM (QCX64)
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237 I voted for Trump only because the alternative was unacceptable on any level. I have also come to believe that Trump is the right man for the right time. What was needed most was someone to rip the mask off the MSM, who in my opinion have been the catalyst for the slow destruction of the country. He is doing that in spades.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 22, 2017 09:37 PM (2DOZq)
Not just the MFM but the GOPe and the chardonnay-and-yacht-club "conservative" pundit class. He's exposed many of them as being complete frauds.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 22, 2017 09:37 PM (2DOZq)
Not just the MFM but the GOPe and the chardonnay-and-yacht-club "conservative" pundit class. He's exposed many of them as being complete frauds.
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 09:40 PM (NWiLs)
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Ivanka has gotten a lot of MFM praise. I'll bet there are a lot of media people who have had a long-standing friendly relationship with her.
Posted by: CM9000 at December 22, 2017 09:40 PM (2S0F4)
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The ninth deployment was the best.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 09:41 PM (gEvQ8)
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"Expect to see fees. Lots and lots of fees."
You don't get to write off fees on your Federal taxes.
For years, every new tax and bond issue that has come down the pike in Oregon has come with well-publicized reassurances that it wasn't so bad, because you could write off the costs on your Federal tax return. (Portland actually considered having a city-wide progressive income tax a few years ago, in the guise of a "street fee".)
The Left is already gnashing their teeth here, and whining that this is going to make it more difficult to pass the necessary state and local tax increases needed to compensate for the Fascist Age of Trump.
You don't get to write off fees on your Federal taxes.
For years, every new tax and bond issue that has come down the pike in Oregon has come with well-publicized reassurances that it wasn't so bad, because you could write off the costs on your Federal tax return. (Portland actually considered having a city-wide progressive income tax a few years ago, in the guise of a "street fee".)
The Left is already gnashing their teeth here, and whining that this is going to make it more difficult to pass the necessary state and local tax increases needed to compensate for the Fascist Age of Trump.
Posted by: The Arc Of History at December 22, 2017 09:41 PM (xnAyb)
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Trump is the 12th president in my life and if he can catch a few breaks
and stay alive, may end up as one of if not the best of all. I wish I
could prove it with Vegas receipts, but I had him picked from the start.
Posted by: dartist at December 22, 2017 08:17 PM (nisXv
All the big giant lefties in my office were going on and on about Hilary's demolition of PDT about two months out from the election. The were so off base. They thought his tweeting was harming him and preventing him form any chance at victory.
I nearly did a spit take. In the one and only political comment I made in front of others At Big Giant Lefty Employer, I erupted with its his tweeting that going to make him win; a direct line to his voters without the media filter. It was clear that everything they new about politics was based on the Fluffington Ho. The were so smug about their assertions and were surprised about my 180 degree take on the situation.
Trump is the 12th president in my life and if he can catch a few breaks
and stay alive, may end up as one of if not the best of all. I wish I
could prove it with Vegas receipts, but I had him picked from the start.
Posted by: dartist at December 22, 2017 08:17 PM (nisXv
All the big giant lefties in my office were going on and on about Hilary's demolition of PDT about two months out from the election. The were so off base. They thought his tweeting was harming him and preventing him form any chance at victory.
I nearly did a spit take. In the one and only political comment I made in front of others At Big Giant Lefty Employer, I erupted with its his tweeting that going to make him win; a direct line to his voters without the media filter. It was clear that everything they new about politics was based on the Fluffington Ho. The were so smug about their assertions and were surprised about my 180 degree take on the situation.
Posted by: President Richard Punch at December 22, 2017 09:41 PM (7+qdf)
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all i can say is that watching the last bit of the election that night, and then listening to GEDJT's speech, as well as the meltdowns every where else, was one of the greatest experiences of my life, and something i can relive anytime i go to You Tube...
this year has sucked for me, as usual, but it has been awesome for the country i love so much, and that's good enough for me. it hasn't been perfect, but i've always thought PDT plays long ball, and events seem to confirm that.
the whiners can STFU about him, because i'm looking forward to 2018: not for me, but for America, and what it's supposed to be.
this year has sucked for me, as usual, but it has been awesome for the country i love so much, and that's good enough for me. it hasn't been perfect, but i've always thought PDT plays long ball, and events seem to confirm that.
the whiners can STFU about him, because i'm looking forward to 2018: not for me, but for America, and what it's supposed to be.
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 22, 2017 09:41 PM (/a6u+)
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"It was actually an old space suit which was tossed out of the back door of the space station."
Really? Is it still out there?
Posted by: freaked
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Nah. Orbit quickly decays. See Suitsat-1
Really? Is it still out there?
Posted by: freaked
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Nah. Orbit quickly decays. See Suitsat-1
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 22, 2017 09:42 PM (+y0ym)
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3 egg omelet:
Whisk 3 eggs in bowl
Pour 2 eggs into hot butter in pan
Watch for firmness, add diced onion, mushroom, ham, avacado, etc to one half side.
Flip other side to cover, slide over in pan to expose open space.
Lift edge of rolled omelet while pouring last 1/3 of eggs.
Wait, then roll 2/3's onto 1/3.
Wind up with stuffed enchilada shape, about 1/2 width of the pan.
Whisk 3 eggs in bowl
Pour 2 eggs into hot butter in pan
Watch for firmness, add diced onion, mushroom, ham, avacado, etc to one half side.
Flip other side to cover, slide over in pan to expose open space.
Lift edge of rolled omelet while pouring last 1/3 of eggs.
Wait, then roll 2/3's onto 1/3.
Wind up with stuffed enchilada shape, about 1/2 width of the pan.
Posted by: pogomip at December 22, 2017 09:42 PM (5i/Zh)
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230 The Hawaiian judge is at it again.
Same one, SSDD.
Good grief (to put it mildly).
Posted by: Miklos P.M. at December 22, 2017 09:35 PM (zCyNd)
--See the link I posted in what got me embarreled.
Ann Coulter nailed it.
Same one, SSDD.
Good grief (to put it mildly).
Posted by: Miklos P.M. at December 22, 2017 09:35 PM (zCyNd)
--See the link I posted in what got me embarreled.
Ann Coulter nailed it.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 09:42 PM (GsAUU)
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At the beginning of 2017, SpaceX only had one active launch pad, SLC-4 at Vandenberg.
They had previously used SLC-40 at Cape Canaveral, but it was destroyed by an explosion in September 2016.
The first launch of 2017 was the inaugural launch from LC-39A at Kennedy Space Center.
Last week they launched from LC-40 again for the first time in over a year.
They end 2017 with *three* active launch pads. 2018 looks very promising indeed.
They had previously used SLC-40 at Cape Canaveral, but it was destroyed by an explosion in September 2016.
The first launch of 2017 was the inaugural launch from LC-39A at Kennedy Space Center.
Last week they launched from LC-40 again for the first time in over a year.
They end 2017 with *three* active launch pads. 2018 looks very promising indeed.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:43 PM (sdi6R)
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The 9th Circuit fuckin thinks it runs the place...What a bunch of fucks and I think the Supreme Court is getting pretty sick and tired of it...They all should be impeached
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 22, 2017 09:43 PM (SjImc)
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Don't count out the politics - the genius of the tax bill is that the politics of the blue states are irrevocably changed.
I live in Oregon, where anybody affluent is going to be above the $10,000 limit on state and local tax deductions.
That means that affluent people in Oregon are going to pay **all** the costs of any new tax, and **all** the costs of any new bond issue - they don't get to pass off a chunk of those incremental new costs to the Feds.
This is terrifying the ruling Democrats in Oregon - new taxes and new bonds are hard to pass (even in Oregon), and the political calculus has just shifted, making it much harder to pass these things.
Posted by: The Arc Of History
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Right now their rage is at Trump, but eventually it will be at their state governments.
Maybe even the blue states will start to appreciate smaller government and stop focusing on nonsense like tranny bathrooms.
I live in Oregon, where anybody affluent is going to be above the $10,000 limit on state and local tax deductions.
That means that affluent people in Oregon are going to pay **all** the costs of any new tax, and **all** the costs of any new bond issue - they don't get to pass off a chunk of those incremental new costs to the Feds.
This is terrifying the ruling Democrats in Oregon - new taxes and new bonds are hard to pass (even in Oregon), and the political calculus has just shifted, making it much harder to pass these things.
Posted by: The Arc Of History
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Right now their rage is at Trump, but eventually it will be at their state governments.
Maybe even the blue states will start to appreciate smaller government and stop focusing on nonsense like tranny bathrooms.
Posted by: Apache at December 22, 2017 09:44 PM (uc45P)
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We don't need to impeach no stinkin' district judge in pineapple land. We need to replace the whole 9th mfn Circuit!
Posted by: strawdog at December 22, 2017 09:45 PM (Cssks)
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I have wondered if Trump would have been more willing to move toward the middle if the Democrats had shown any desire whatsoever to work with him. ironically the liberals own hysteria and stubbornness might have screwed them. how can you work with someone who's standing there screaming "not my president?" the absolute hatred and opposition of the Democrats in the media probably made him more conservative. Idon't think he's an ideologue; his enemies have pushed him to the right
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V my laptop died at December 22, 2017 09:45 PM (8lRKJ)
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Nevergiveup, hmm.
I had heard the 9th was the court that ended up upholding PDJT's travel ban, but I could be wrong.
I had heard the 9th was the court that ended up upholding PDJT's travel ban, but I could be wrong.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 22, 2017 09:46 PM (eMKNe)
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They end 2017 with *three* active launch pads. 2018 looks very promising indeed.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:43 PM (sdi6R)
I was explaining to Mrs. Old Blue today that there are a couple of private (sort of) space companies that are aggressively pursuing space ventures, one of which is mining asteroids. The biggest cost is leaving the Earth's gravity well.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:43 PM (sdi6R)
I was explaining to Mrs. Old Blue today that there are a couple of private (sort of) space companies that are aggressively pursuing space ventures, one of which is mining asteroids. The biggest cost is leaving the Earth's gravity well.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 09:46 PM (gEvQ8)
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Hey everybody.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 22, 2017 09:46 PM (eMKNe)
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Do we have our praising hat on for Elon Musk now?
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 22, 2017 09:46 PM (2DOZq)
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Ivanka has gotten a lot of MFM praise. I'll bet there are a lot of media people who have had a long-standing friendly relationship with her.
Posted by: CM9000 at December 22, 2017 09:40 PM (2S0F4)
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Really? I thought on her last two trips to Japan and India, she was dissed for her clothes - culturally insensitive, shallow, cultural appropriation, etc.
Posted by: CM9000 at December 22, 2017 09:40 PM (2S0F4)
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Really? I thought on her last two trips to Japan and India, she was dissed for her clothes - culturally insensitive, shallow, cultural appropriation, etc.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 22, 2017 09:46 PM (/qEW2)
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The Holy Family were refugees... to Egypt fleeing Big Government!
by: andycanuck
without squatting and living off handouts.
Posted by: logprof
They happened to have been given a pile of gold, Frankincense, and myrhh, which was more than enough to finance their move and return. Funny how that worked out....
by: andycanuck
without squatting and living off handouts.
Posted by: logprof
They happened to have been given a pile of gold, Frankincense, and myrhh, which was more than enough to finance their move and return. Funny how that worked out....
Posted by: booknlass at December 22, 2017 09:47 PM (CXrpl)
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Alabaster, I'll just say this:
Musk would be getting serious traction as a possible post-Trump presidency candidate, if he weren't born in South Africa.
Musk would be getting serious traction as a possible post-Trump presidency candidate, if he weren't born in South Africa.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 22, 2017 09:47 PM (eMKNe)
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While I'm not a fan of novelty Christmas 'music', I was pleased today to hear the Gene Autry recording of 'Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer'. Then...Nat King Cole doing 'I'll Home for Christmas'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 22, 2017 09:47 PM (K1sgG)
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The big question as we move past Donald Trump's first year in office is whether Trumpism is a force that is dependent on the man bearing its title or whether it's a cultural and political wave that will retain its power when he leaves.
I hate the word "Trumpism", since it implies there's some kind of overarching political philosophical framework involved in the way Trump governs. There isn't. He may be riding a cultural and political wave, but it's not like anybody can point to a book named The Principles of Trumpism.
Trump is in office because the Democrats decided to put up the only candidate he could beat. He's not very popular, personally - his polling is worse than any president in my lifetime at this stage in his administration. He doesn't seem to have much influence with voters - he couldn't get Luther Strange nominated in Alabama and couldn't get Roy Moore elected.
I agree he's more intelligent than most of his critics, especially in the media. And I agree he's been relatively successful in his first year. But let's not wash each other's backs here - Obama could have mopped the floor with him had a third term been allowed.
I hate the word "Trumpism", since it implies there's some kind of overarching political philosophical framework involved in the way Trump governs. There isn't. He may be riding a cultural and political wave, but it's not like anybody can point to a book named The Principles of Trumpism.
Trump is in office because the Democrats decided to put up the only candidate he could beat. He's not very popular, personally - his polling is worse than any president in my lifetime at this stage in his administration. He doesn't seem to have much influence with voters - he couldn't get Luther Strange nominated in Alabama and couldn't get Roy Moore elected.
I agree he's more intelligent than most of his critics, especially in the media. And I agree he's been relatively successful in his first year. But let's not wash each other's backs here - Obama could have mopped the floor with him had a third term been allowed.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 22, 2017 09:47 PM (+azJs)
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>>The 10 Iridium satellites are beginning to separate. This will take about 15 minutes.
What are 'Things Sting whispers in your ear during tantric sex', Alex?
What are 'Things Sting whispers in your ear during tantric sex', Alex?
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 09:47 PM (zWJgd)
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Trump and Melania got into an elevator with me at the 2000 World Series.
All attention was seized on him but he took it in stride. One thing that stood out was how approachable he seemed. Never expected that of a billionaire.
All attention was seized on him but he took it in stride. One thing that stood out was how approachable he seemed. Never expected that of a billionaire.
Posted by: The Gimp at December 22, 2017 09:48 PM (jdWK0)
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Hey Ace! :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 22, 2017 09:48 PM (eMKNe)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 22, 2017 09:48 PM (K1sgG)
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Right now their rage is at Trump, but eventually it will be at their state governments.
Maybe even the blue states will start to appreciate smaller government and stop focusing on nonsense like tranny bathrooms.
Posted by: Apache at December 22, 2017 09:44 PM (uc45P)
As I said before, they hold the keys to their own cell. Stop supporting state legislatures that tax the ever-loving shit out of you and the tax bill doesn't hurt at all.
Maybe even the blue states will start to appreciate smaller government and stop focusing on nonsense like tranny bathrooms.
Posted by: Apache at December 22, 2017 09:44 PM (uc45P)
As I said before, they hold the keys to their own cell. Stop supporting state legislatures that tax the ever-loving shit out of you and the tax bill doesn't hurt at all.
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 09:48 PM (NWiLs)
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>>Wind up with stuffed enchilada shape, about 1/2 width of the pan.
This is exaclty what I never want in an omelette.
This is exaclty what I never want in an omelette.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 09:48 PM (zWJgd)
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BASEMENT: DANGEROUS GASES, VIRUSES, CONTAGIOUS DISEASES,
RESTAURANT AND TOILET FIXINGS.
GROUND FLOOR: MENSWEAR, BOYSWEAR, EFFEMINATE GOODS
HALL, ILL HEALTH FOODS.
MEZZANINE: TABLEWARE, KITCHEN GOODS, SOFT FURNISHINGS,
HARD FURNISHINGS, ROCK-HARD FURNISHINGS.
FIRST FLOOR: COMPLAINTS.
SECOND FLOOR: COSMETICS, JEWELRY, ELECTRICAL, SATIRE.
THIRD FLOOR: NASAL INJURIES HALL, OTHER THINGS.
FOURTH FLOOR: GRANITE HALL - ROCKS, SHALES, ALLUVIAL
DEPOSITS, FELSPAR, CARPATHIANS, ANDES, URALS, MINING
REQUISITES, ATOM-SPLITTING SERVICE.
FIFTH FLOOR: COMPLAINTS.
SIXTH FLOOR: COMPLAINTS.
SEVENTH FLOOR: COMPLAINTS.
EIGHTH FLOOR: ROOF GARDEN.
NINTH FLOOR: TELEVISION AERIALS.
TENTH FLOOR: FRESH AIR, CLOUDS, OCCASIONAL PERIODS OF SUNSHINE
BASEMENT: DANGEROUS GASES, VIRUSES, CONTAGIOUS DISEASES,
RESTAURANT AND TOILET FIXINGS.
GROUND FLOOR: MENSWEAR, BOYSWEAR, EFFEMINATE GOODS
HALL, ILL HEALTH FOODS.
MEZZANINE: TABLEWARE, KITCHEN GOODS, SOFT FURNISHINGS,
HARD FURNISHINGS, ROCK-HARD FURNISHINGS.
FIRST FLOOR: COMPLAINTS.
SECOND FLOOR: COSMETICS, JEWELRY, ELECTRICAL, SATIRE.
THIRD FLOOR: NASAL INJURIES HALL, OTHER THINGS.
FOURTH FLOOR: GRANITE HALL - ROCKS, SHALES, ALLUVIAL
DEPOSITS, FELSPAR, CARPATHIANS, ANDES, URALS, MINING
REQUISITES, ATOM-SPLITTING SERVICE.
FIFTH FLOOR: COMPLAINTS.
SIXTH FLOOR: COMPLAINTS.
SEVENTH FLOOR: COMPLAINTS.
EIGHTH FLOOR: ROOF GARDEN.
NINTH FLOOR: TELEVISION AERIALS.
TENTH FLOOR: FRESH AIR, CLOUDS, OCCASIONAL PERIODS OF SUNSHINE
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 22, 2017 09:48 PM (T/KY7)
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I may not have Fuck You Money, but I absolutely have a Fuck You Attitude. So I've got that goin' for me.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2017 09:48 PM (V2Yro)
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Really? I thought on her last two trips to Japan and India, she was dissed for her clothes - culturally insensitive, shallow, cultural appropriation, etc.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 22, 2017 09:46 PM (/qEW2)
By real people or by "27 year olds who literally know nothing"?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 22, 2017 09:46 PM (/qEW2)
By real people or by "27 year olds who literally know nothing"?
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 22, 2017 09:49 PM (+azJs)
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I had heard the 9th was the court that ended up upholding PDJT's travel ban, but I could be wrong.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 22, 2017 09:46 PM (eMKNe)
The Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Friday that part of President Trumps third attempt at a travel ban should be blocked.
The ruling, however, will not take effect pending review by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Rather than take apart the entire ban, however, three members of the 9th Circuit ruled that only the prohibitions on foreign nationals who have a bona fide relationship within the United States should be stopped.
The dispute will not return to the Supreme Court until after a ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit in Richmond, Va.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 22, 2017 09:46 PM (eMKNe)
The Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Friday that part of President Trumps third attempt at a travel ban should be blocked.
The ruling, however, will not take effect pending review by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Rather than take apart the entire ban, however, three members of the 9th Circuit ruled that only the prohibitions on foreign nationals who have a bona fide relationship within the United States should be stopped.
The dispute will not return to the Supreme Court until after a ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit in Richmond, Va.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 22, 2017 09:49 PM (SjImc)
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hey guys... theres a NOOD!
Posted by: Gushka once had doggo named Rexmo at December 22, 2017 09:50 PM (9G8jN)
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Ace's liver, I think his polling has more to do with the more than 90% negative coverage by the MFM than anything else. How can the man have a positive rating when everything you hear in the most of the news is negative?
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 09:50 PM (gEvQ8)
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They end 2017 with *three* active launch pads. 2018 looks very promising indeed.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:43 PM (sdi6R)
Whenever Spacex gets done building it, they're gonna start launching their commercial stuff from their new spaceport in Texas.
I always enjoy your rocket posts, rickl.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 09:43 PM (sdi6R)
Whenever Spacex gets done building it, they're gonna start launching their commercial stuff from their new spaceport in Texas.
I always enjoy your rocket posts, rickl.
Posted by: stace at December 22, 2017 09:50 PM (6HFDU)
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271 I may not have Fuck You Money, but I absolutely have a Fuck You Attitude. So I've got that goin' for me.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2017 09:48 PM (V2Yro)
Heh. I've got fuck-all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 22, 2017 09:48 PM (V2Yro)
Heh. I've got fuck-all.
Posted by: Insomniac - Bah humbug! at December 22, 2017 09:50 PM (NWiLs)
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I have wondered if Trump would have been more willing to move toward the middle if the Democrats had shown any desire whatsoever to work with him. ironically the liberals own hysteria and stubbornness might have screwed them. how can you work with someone who's standing there screaming "not my president?"
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Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V my laptop died at December 22, 2017 09:45 PM (8lRKJ)
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Stubbornness is the key - I think enough of their base is so radicalized that compromise is not an option for the party. Which is good. The only ways for them to act have bad outcomes for them.
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Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V my laptop died at December 22, 2017 09:45 PM (8lRKJ)
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Stubbornness is the key - I think enough of their base is so radicalized that compromise is not an option for the party. Which is good. The only ways for them to act have bad outcomes for them.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 22, 2017 09:52 PM (/qEW2)
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TENTH FLOOR: FRESH AIR, CLOUDS, OCCASIONAL PERIODS OF SUNSHINE
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 22, 2017 09:48 PM (T/KY7)
And your Mood Ring changes color as you ride the escalator.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at December 22, 2017 09:48 PM (T/KY7)
And your Mood Ring changes color as you ride the escalator.
Posted by: Miklos, just Miklos at December 22, 2017 09:53 PM (zCyNd)
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This is exaclty what I never want in an omelette.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 09:48 PM (zWJgd)
Which is why I'll never make you one!
These rolled works of art, stuffed with hot good delicacies, are not to be wasted on the heathen.
Posted by: garrett at December 22, 2017 09:48 PM (zWJgd)
Which is why I'll never make you one!
These rolled works of art, stuffed with hot good delicacies, are not to be wasted on the heathen.
Posted by: pogomip at December 22, 2017 09:53 PM (5i/Zh)
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Yeah Chuck and Nancy misplayed their hands. They would have been better off looking for some way to work with Trump. But that would have pissed-off their base.
Posted by: CM9000 at December 22, 2017 09:54 PM (2S0F4)
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I've got a Fuck-You vote. I see that I wasn't the only one.
Posted by: t-bird at December 22, 2017 09:54 PM (8cvCt)
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Obama could have mopped the floor with him had a third term been allowed.
I think that's because Obama was a new thing that no one had seen before. Trump would beat him like a rented mule if they competed now, let alone next year when they learn a little more about D.C.
I think that's because Obama was a new thing that no one had seen before. Trump would beat him like a rented mule if they competed now, let alone next year when they learn a little more about D.C.
Posted by: dartist at December 22, 2017 09:54 PM (nisXv)
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Don't get them from Dominicans -- they roll them too tight.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2017 09:56 PM (QCX64)
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Trump is a symptom... not a cause...
Its back to the historic debate of do times make the man, or does the Man make the times...
Would Napoleon have had an impact if not for the being in place during the French Revolution? Or... would there have been someone else who took that position...
or.... is it a combination of the two (my belief)...
Trump seized on OUR disgust at the system.... but even without Trump, that disgust was still there... and may have created another outlet...
Its back to the historic debate of do times make the man, or does the Man make the times...
Would Napoleon have had an impact if not for the being in place during the French Revolution? Or... would there have been someone else who took that position...
or.... is it a combination of the two (my belief)...
Trump seized on OUR disgust at the system.... but even without Trump, that disgust was still there... and may have created another outlet...
Posted by: Don Q, trying to figure out the new rules... at December 22, 2017 09:56 PM (NgKpN)
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275 Ace's liver, I think his polling has more to do with the more than 90% negative coverage by the MFM than anything else. How can the man have a positive rating when everything you hear in the most of the news is negative?
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 09:50 PM (gEvQ
I agree that's part of it. But every Republican president faces the same headwind. IMO it's also party Trump's fault because he's given the media a lot of ammunition a more disciplined president wouldn't have provided.
Also, in American politics the last guy to touch health care loses. That's just the way the rules work.
Trump has one really big winning issue if he works it right - immigration. But it looks like he's starting to go wobbly, and if he caves on DACA or the wall he's pretty much dead, politically.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 22, 2017 09:50 PM (gEvQ
I agree that's part of it. But every Republican president faces the same headwind. IMO it's also party Trump's fault because he's given the media a lot of ammunition a more disciplined president wouldn't have provided.
Also, in American politics the last guy to touch health care loses. That's just the way the rules work.
Trump has one really big winning issue if he works it right - immigration. But it looks like he's starting to go wobbly, and if he caves on DACA or the wall he's pretty much dead, politically.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 22, 2017 09:56 PM (+azJs)
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Posted by: Ace's liver at December 22, 2017 09:56 PM (+azJs)
But its also true that Washington insiders see him as a threat...
So even the long term GOP folks in Washington, are often working against him....
But its also true that Washington insiders see him as a threat...
So even the long term GOP folks in Washington, are often working against him....
Posted by: Don Q, trying to figure out the new rules... at December 22, 2017 09:59 PM (NgKpN)
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I have wondered if Trump would have been more willing to move toward the middle if the Democrats had shown any desire whatsoever to work with him. ironically the liberals own hysteria and stubbornness might have screwed them. how can you work with someone who's standing there screaming "not my president?"
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Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V my laptop died at December 22, 2017 09:45 PM (8lRKJ)
Yes, the Democrats have mishandled him terribly. If they played up to his vanity instead of attacking him all the time, he'd probably give them most of what they wanted.
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Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V my laptop died at December 22, 2017 09:45 PM (8lRKJ)
Yes, the Democrats have mishandled him terribly. If they played up to his vanity instead of attacking him all the time, he'd probably give them most of what they wanted.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 22, 2017 09:59 PM (+azJs)
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The man who made the first untethered space flight (1984 Challenger shuttle), Bruce McCandless II, is mort.
The man who made the first untethered space flight (1984 Challenger shuttle), Bruce McCandless II, is mort.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 22, 2017 09:59 PM (gZhuP)
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So anyone else in LA see the weird thing in the sky over the last 10 minutes?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (hscyr)
I think that's the Moon, bebe. means the smoke from the fires has lifted a bit.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (hscyr)
I think that's the Moon, bebe. means the smoke from the fires has lifted a bit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2017 10:01 PM (d6iST)
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Sorry I missed Warden's excellent post, but I was otherwise occupied.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 10:01 PM (sdi6R)
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@236
I too would like to see Buzzfeed in a trial involving lube.
Glad to know I'm not alone.
[One of the best typos in a while.]
I too would like to see Buzzfeed in a trial involving lube.
Glad to know I'm not alone.
[One of the best typos in a while.]
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at December 22, 2017 10:01 PM (H5knJ)
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290 So anyone else in LA see the weird thing in the sky over the last 10 minutes?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (hscyr)
I think that's the Moon, bebe. means the smoke from the fires has lifted a bit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2017 10:01 PM (d6iST)
It was the SpaceX launch, which generated all kinds of "WTF was that?" comments, and probably UFO reports.
Like I said, twilight launches are the best.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 22, 2017 08:41 PM (hscyr)
I think that's the Moon, bebe. means the smoke from the fires has lifted a bit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 22, 2017 10:01 PM (d6iST)
It was the SpaceX launch, which generated all kinds of "WTF was that?" comments, and probably UFO reports.
Like I said, twilight launches are the best.
Posted by: rickl at December 22, 2017 10:03 PM (sdi6R)
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206 Watching Bright...... If anything it may become the ultimate meme movie.
Posted by: Todd Standing, Discovering Bigfoot at December 22, 2017 09:17 PM (yyMsG
Just finished it. Got a few chuckles outta it.
Posted by: Todd Standing, Discovering Bigfoot at December 22, 2017 09:17 PM (yyMsG
Just finished it. Got a few chuckles outta it.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 22, 2017 10:07 PM (di1hb)
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Nobody wants to wish me a "Good Night"-?
I'll keep my prayers to myself and hoist them where I can't spill a beer on them.
*harumph*
G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 22, 2017 08:10
I will wish you a good night. I think your propensity for haunting the ONT leads people to believe you will be back.
BTW, it's been talked about sending the cookbook to Trumo or Sarah HS. Has anyone sent one to the Five, esp. Kimberly? That might get great publicity, tho too late for Christmas.
Can't take credit for that idea, that was Mrs. Farmer's thought as we talked about the Book. Do try the ham dip I submitted, she just bought the ingredients for our holiday w/ Dad, it's good.
I'll keep my prayers to myself and hoist them where I can't spill a beer on them.
*harumph*
G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at December 22, 2017 08:10
I will wish you a good night. I think your propensity for haunting the ONT leads people to believe you will be back.
BTW, it's been talked about sending the cookbook to Trumo or Sarah HS. Has anyone sent one to the Five, esp. Kimberly? That might get great publicity, tho too late for Christmas.
Can't take credit for that idea, that was Mrs. Farmer's thought as we talked about the Book. Do try the ham dip I submitted, she just bought the ingredients for our holiday w/ Dad, it's good.
Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at December 22, 2017 10:10 PM (yJ1e6)
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The Donald Trump is an idiot meme is the same god damned thing Democrats do every fucking time. We get it democrats. Only democrat presidents are smart. Great . Wow. They all fucking fail it. BIGLY.
Posted by: james the deplorable disciple of kek at December 22, 2017 10:13 PM (jxw6R)
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33,
"We really do need hard people to carry the movement forward. I don't
mean hard in a totalitarian or authoritarian sense, but rather someone
who just keeps pounding away at the problems while keeping the Left and
their lapdogs busy chasing their tails."
I think that over the course of the Trump administration he will raise up people who are just that and we will see them doing that pounding away and know that they are not the grifters.
"We really do need hard people to carry the movement forward. I don't
mean hard in a totalitarian or authoritarian sense, but rather someone
who just keeps pounding away at the problems while keeping the Left and
their lapdogs busy chasing their tails."
I think that over the course of the Trump administration he will raise up people who are just that and we will see them doing that pounding away and know that they are not the grifters.
Posted by: geoffb at December 22, 2017 10:18 PM (zOpu5)
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Outstanding post, Warden.
Posted by: Me Lurk You Long Time at December 22, 2017 10:20 PM (46UXb)
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FU Martin O'Malley.
You get an F- in Econ 101.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:27
And an F- in history. As I mentioned, Jesus was a refugee according to MM? WTF!
You get an F- in Econ 101.
Posted by: logprof, from Teh Barrel at December 22, 2017 08:27
And an F- in history. As I mentioned, Jesus was a refugee according to MM? WTF!
Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at December 22, 2017 10:23 PM (yJ1e6)
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Read his book in 1997 and that completely changed my mind on the man.. Smart MOTHER FUCKER that is in his own way humble.
Plus nails the hottest tail.. just kidding but that is a mark of an accomplished man. Even if he only nails a few.
GD guarantee Trump has 50% more innate smarts, 200% more real world experience, and 500% more street fighting/common sense that any current politician/fake news media illiterrati.
Plus nails the hottest tail.. just kidding but that is a mark of an accomplished man. Even if he only nails a few.
GD guarantee Trump has 50% more innate smarts, 200% more real world experience, and 500% more street fighting/common sense that any current politician/fake news media illiterrati.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 22, 2017 10:29 PM (3BFzK)
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Yes, the Democrats have mishandled him terribly. If they played up to his vanity instead of attacking him all the time, he'd probably give them most of what they wanted.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 22, 2017 09:59
I think you and Donna have it in a nutshell. Just shows ho dumb the Dems are.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 22, 2017 09:59
I think you and Donna have it in a nutshell. Just shows ho dumb the Dems are.
Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at December 22, 2017 10:32 PM (yJ1e6)
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Yes, the Democrats have mishandled him terribly. If
they played up to his vanity instead of attacking him all the time,
he'd probably give them most of what they wanted.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 22, 2017 09:59 PM (+azJs)
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I disagree. Read his books. He hates politicians. He hates bureaucrats ten times as much.
He ran and won because he saw what leftism was doing to a country he loves. The democrat part was to be a developer in NYC. I think your statement is unfounded.
they played up to his vanity instead of attacking him all the time,
he'd probably give them most of what they wanted.
Posted by: Ace's liver at December 22, 2017 09:59 PM (+azJs)
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I disagree. Read his books. He hates politicians. He hates bureaucrats ten times as much.
He ran and won because he saw what leftism was doing to a country he loves. The democrat part was to be a developer in NYC. I think your statement is unfounded.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 22, 2017 10:33 PM (3BFzK)
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I'm pretty sure it's just a front to keep people chasing squirrels, honestly. He spoke at a business conference I was at back in 2005, and he was one of the most gracious, motivating speakers there at that whole conference - I was nothing but impressed with him. Yeah it's a bit anecdotal, and it could have been a bit of a front there, but I do think that his public face is a bit of a ruse, and he actually is a decent guy.
Posted by: specialkayel at December 22, 2017 11:00 PM (0SQ22)
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This is the difference between being a winner or a loser: a winner does what he says he will do; a loser does not. It's easy to be a winner: stop talking shit. Act in accordance with your speech.
The size of the goal is self-determined and the scope of the accomplishment is unimportant: it's the principle. For example, if you say you're going to wake up at 8:00am tomorrow, and you wake up at 8:00am, you're a winner. If, OTOH, you say you're going to wake up at 8:00am tomorrow, and you wake up at 8:10am, you're a loser. The glamor of the goal doesn't matter: If you say you'll climb to the top of Mount Everest and only get half-way up the mountain, you're a loser.
Do you fulfill all of your goals as you---not society---defines them? You can lead a quiet, humble life and still be a winner. You can lead a high-powered life and still be a loser. (Hi, Hillary!)
Also, chance enters into it; our goals are sometimes affected by things outside our control. Do you know what you'll do if you lose? Most people know what they'll do if they win, but have no idea of what they'll do if they lose. Winners know what they'll do if the situation gets out of their control. They always have an alternative to skin the cat, so to speak.
Donald Trump is very intelligent, hard-working, honorable and, moreover, indomitable. He has a rare gift for optimism; regardless of what kind of assholes he has to deal with, he never throws up his hands and despairs. He realizes that time plays a factor in solving problems and never panics. He assumes there is something good about almost everyone he deals with, and he asks them to aspire to live up to their best. He forgives easily. He assumes that teams of people of good will can solve problems regardless of how seemingly intractable. Trump's an old-fashioned boy---his word is his bond; if he tells you something, he means it.
That's why he's made his billions---because he is among the very best C-level executives. And he loves America.
Trump makes sense if you understand that he's doing this because he loves the country and felt an obligation to lend his talents to turning it around. Trump makes sense when you understand that he is thinking of the world he's leaving his grandchildren.
The size of the goal is self-determined and the scope of the accomplishment is unimportant: it's the principle. For example, if you say you're going to wake up at 8:00am tomorrow, and you wake up at 8:00am, you're a winner. If, OTOH, you say you're going to wake up at 8:00am tomorrow, and you wake up at 8:10am, you're a loser. The glamor of the goal doesn't matter: If you say you'll climb to the top of Mount Everest and only get half-way up the mountain, you're a loser.
Do you fulfill all of your goals as you---not society---defines them? You can lead a quiet, humble life and still be a winner. You can lead a high-powered life and still be a loser. (Hi, Hillary!)
Also, chance enters into it; our goals are sometimes affected by things outside our control. Do you know what you'll do if you lose? Most people know what they'll do if they win, but have no idea of what they'll do if they lose. Winners know what they'll do if the situation gets out of their control. They always have an alternative to skin the cat, so to speak.
Donald Trump is very intelligent, hard-working, honorable and, moreover, indomitable. He has a rare gift for optimism; regardless of what kind of assholes he has to deal with, he never throws up his hands and despairs. He realizes that time plays a factor in solving problems and never panics. He assumes there is something good about almost everyone he deals with, and he asks them to aspire to live up to their best. He forgives easily. He assumes that teams of people of good will can solve problems regardless of how seemingly intractable. Trump's an old-fashioned boy---his word is his bond; if he tells you something, he means it.
That's why he's made his billions---because he is among the very best C-level executives. And he loves America.
Trump makes sense if you understand that he's doing this because he loves the country and felt an obligation to lend his talents to turning it around. Trump makes sense when you understand that he is thinking of the world he's leaving his grandchildren.
Posted by: ahem at December 22, 2017 11:07 PM (lKGzI)
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"GD guarantee Trump has 50% more innate smarts, 200% more real world experience, and 500% more street fighting/common sense that any current politician/fake news media illiterrati."
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious
_____________________________
Coupled with extensive POLITICAL experience! Trump learned more politics on his first small NYC real estate project than most politicians learn in a lifetime! It's the only way you make any money in real state in big cities, which are swamps of political corruption.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious
_____________________________
Coupled with extensive POLITICAL experience! Trump learned more politics on his first small NYC real estate project than most politicians learn in a lifetime! It's the only way you make any money in real state in big cities, which are swamps of political corruption.
Posted by: Old Codger at December 22, 2017 11:39 PM (fpd99)
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Great post Warden. Filled with astute observations and analysis that aren't of the boiler-plate variety. Also, your composition had a nice flow to it.
A real unbiased political science observer should marvel at what Trump has done the same way an astronomer would marvel at witnessing the supernova of a close star or a vulcanologist witnessing a major volcano eruption. Instead they show themselves to be inside the beltway hacks.
A real unbiased political science observer should marvel at what Trump has done the same way an astronomer would marvel at witnessing the supernova of a close star or a vulcanologist witnessing a major volcano eruption. Instead they show themselves to be inside the beltway hacks.
Posted by: Hobo with a laptop at December 23, 2017 12:00 AM (Dgce0)
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Trump is a Dark Worker.
Posted by: rayj at December 23, 2017 12:06 AM (qyUzy)
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Somebody here wrote "Merry Christmas." Indeed. And today, I ran into a friend, a Pakistani ER doctor, muslim, who has worked for the VA for more than two decades, and when he shook my hand the first thing he said to me was "Merry Christmas." Let's have more of that, please. . .Merry Christmas y'all.
Posted by: FIIGMO at December 23, 2017 12:08 AM (E+qJE)
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Trump ended up on the "hard right" because he loves America and that's the only space in politics where love of America is allowed/encouraged/fought for.
Posted by: Mega at December 23, 2017 12:40 AM (rv0Fo)
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I have talked to three separate women this week who are all politically non-liberal, who don't like Donald Trump because of his personality (and the influence of the media) who were all shocked that they are getting money in their paycheck starting in February.
Do not underestimate the power of money in the paycheck. It's the only thing that really speaks to the working class (yes there is now a working class in America - created by miserable Democrats - and by the grace of God they are all Trumpers and potential Trumpers). Everything else is GARBAGE.
Do not underestimate the power of money in the paycheck. It's the only thing that really speaks to the working class (yes there is now a working class in America - created by miserable Democrats - and by the grace of God they are all Trumpers and potential Trumpers). Everything else is GARBAGE.
Posted by: Mega at December 23, 2017 12:43 AM (rv0Fo)
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309 Trump ended up on the "hard right" because he loves America and that's the only space in politics where love of America is allowed/encouraged/fought for.
Posted by: Mega at December 23, 2017 12:40 AM (rv0Fo)
I mentioned the other day that what is considered "hard right" today was perfectly normal 50 years ago.
What was considered "hard left revolutionary Communism" 50 years ago is now "mainstream" today.
Posted by: Mega at December 23, 2017 12:40 AM (rv0Fo)
I mentioned the other day that what is considered "hard right" today was perfectly normal 50 years ago.
What was considered "hard left revolutionary Communism" 50 years ago is now "mainstream" today.
Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2017 12:52 AM (sdi6R)
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JFK was "hard right."
Posted by: ahem at December 23, 2017 01:19 AM (lKGzI)
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"The big question as we move past Donald Trump's first year in office is whether Trumpism is a force that is dependent on the man bearing its title or whether it's a cultural and political wave that will retain its power when he leaves."
Honestly, as a 35 year Republican voter I was at the end of the rope and planned to sit out the last election for president had Trump not won the nomination and I say that not as someone who would have taken his ball and gone home because my guy didn't win the nom but as the dumbass 35+ year Republican voter who simply had enough.
I now dare say that with movement in Congress under Trump starting to move in a direction other than total capitulation to all that is Democrat. I now have a glimmer of hope.
That being said. If the GOP Congress turns back to the old standard then when Trump is gone, so am I, finally.
Honestly, as a 35 year Republican voter I was at the end of the rope and planned to sit out the last election for president had Trump not won the nomination and I say that not as someone who would have taken his ball and gone home because my guy didn't win the nom but as the dumbass 35+ year Republican voter who simply had enough.
I now dare say that with movement in Congress under Trump starting to move in a direction other than total capitulation to all that is Democrat. I now have a glimmer of hope.
That being said. If the GOP Congress turns back to the old standard then when Trump is gone, so am I, finally.
Posted by: Drider at December 23, 2017 06:58 AM (HdKKm)
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310 I have talked to three separate women this week who are all politically non-liberal, who don't like Donald Trump
I'd be interested to know if any of them have ever actually listened to him speak.
I'd be interested to know if any of them have ever actually listened to him speak.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 23, 2017 07:00 AM (5msTp)
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Posted by: ahem at December 22, 2017 11:07 PM (lKGzI)
Very well said. I think few people really understand Trump, because there are fewer people than ever around who can imagine or conceive of this sort of man. It used to be an American type. I am blessed to have had a father in the vein of Trump -- a high-level Manhattan CEO who was confident, irreverent, creative, patriotic, honest and successful. When I see and hear Trump, I see images and hear echoes of my father. I think I can tell what is genuine, what is an act, and "where Trump is coming from."
Very well said. I think few people really understand Trump, because there are fewer people than ever around who can imagine or conceive of this sort of man. It used to be an American type. I am blessed to have had a father in the vein of Trump -- a high-level Manhattan CEO who was confident, irreverent, creative, patriotic, honest and successful. When I see and hear Trump, I see images and hear echoes of my father. I think I can tell what is genuine, what is an act, and "where Trump is coming from."
Posted by: dan smoot's apprentice at December 23, 2017 07:14 AM (5msTp)
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"How and why did this blustering, uncouth, under funded, politically inexperienced outsider succeed "
because he wasn't any of those things but everyone thought he was.
because he wasn't any of those things but everyone thought he was.
Posted by: unseen1 at December 23, 2017 07:35 AM (/DO5l)
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"The big question as we move past Donald Trump's first year in office is whether Trumpism is a force that is dependent on the man bearing its title or whether it's a cultural and political wave that will retain its power when he leaves."
Trump's strategy or Trumpism is an effort to set up self sustaining levers that once set continue to function on their own. It takes active action to change the set course. For instance his 2 cuts of regulations for every one 1 added or his travel Ban. Even his WALL when it gets built. His tax cuts all of them are set up to continue his policies without any other action needed. To reverse those polices will take active action and "force" because they all also benefit voters in a big way.
for comparison many of Obama's policies take action to continue. Like Obamacare takes constant funding sources, takes a mandate and force to keep people buying it. Or Obama's Iran deal, his regulations etc...
So on the face of things it appears Trumpism will last a long time more than Obamaism or bushism.
Trump's strategy or Trumpism is an effort to set up self sustaining levers that once set continue to function on their own. It takes active action to change the set course. For instance his 2 cuts of regulations for every one 1 added or his travel Ban. Even his WALL when it gets built. His tax cuts all of them are set up to continue his policies without any other action needed. To reverse those polices will take active action and "force" because they all also benefit voters in a big way.
for comparison many of Obama's policies take action to continue. Like Obamacare takes constant funding sources, takes a mandate and force to keep people buying it. Or Obama's Iran deal, his regulations etc...
So on the face of things it appears Trumpism will last a long time more than Obamaism or bushism.
Posted by: unseen1 at December 23, 2017 07:46 AM (/DO5l)
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"So on the face of things it appears Trumpism will last a long time more than Obamaism or bushism."
I hope so. But Trumpism as an active exhilarating and therapeutic force in our lives and in our political discourse will end with Trump. There is simply no one like him. He is inimitable. His ability to start conversations and to put them into new light and perspectives, to shake up our "paradigms", is entirely unique.
I hope so. But Trumpism as an active exhilarating and therapeutic force in our lives and in our political discourse will end with Trump. There is simply no one like him. He is inimitable. His ability to start conversations and to put them into new light and perspectives, to shake up our "paradigms", is entirely unique.
Posted by: dan smoot's apprentice at December 23, 2017 08:03 AM (5msTp)
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In the interview, Trump looks like a serious person fallen among idiots.
Posted by: Henry Lee at December 23, 2017 08:23 AM (c/+wS)
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Read up on Jesse Jones and reflect on the similarities. The right man in the right place at the right time.
Posted by: DanMan at December 23, 2017 09:56 AM (0SEK8)
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"Trumpism" is nothing more than the old-fashioned desire for American self-determination and living under the rule of law as expressed in the U.S. Constitution. It will continue to live as long as we want to be free.
The fact that it is considered to be such a radical idea by many of our fellow citizens, deserving of a new name, is proof of how far America has strayed from its original ideals and testimony to the total breakdown of our educational system.
The fact that it is considered to be such a radical idea by many of our fellow citizens, deserving of a new name, is proof of how far America has strayed from its original ideals and testimony to the total breakdown of our educational system.
Posted by: ahem at December 23, 2017 10:01 AM (lKGzI)
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Re: fuck you money
There is no dollar figure to fuck you money. One doesn't even have to be wealthy.
I'm not wealthy. Not even close. But I have enough fuck you money because I simply don't give a shit.
It brings true peace.
There is no dollar figure to fuck you money. One doesn't even have to be wealthy.
I'm not wealthy. Not even close. But I have enough fuck you money because I simply don't give a shit.
It brings true peace.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 23, 2017 01:46 PM (jWe5r)
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Don't be puzzled. Scott Adams explained it all. It's a new political paradigm.
Posted by: rwisrael at December 23, 2017 11:39 PM (BB1ud)
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Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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