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(Re)-Revealed: Democrat Senator Tom Carper Admitted Slapping His Wife in the Face in 1998 Interview
Kirsten Gillibrand unable for comment, I imagine.
Delaware senator Tom Carper admitted to slapping his wife in a 1998 interview with a veteran political journalist in the state, confirming an accusation he denied when first running for Congress. Carper represented Delaware first in the House, then was elected governor in 1993, and has been in the Senate since 2001. He fought the accusation that he hit his wife when it first emerged during his 1982 run for Congress, saying it was "without basis in fact" and pledging to sue the New York Post, which first published the accusation in 1982, for libel. Carper won in 1982 largely by attacking his Republican opponent for his "vicious" efforts to "smear" him and his wife, but 16 years later he admitted to Delaware reporter Celia Cohen that the accusation was true all along. "Did I slap my wife 20 years ago? Yes," Carper said. "Do I regret it? Yes. Would I do it again? No."Slapping one's wife is assault. So shouldn't men who assault women, even decades in the past, be forced from the Senate? I thought that was the rule. That had been the rule two or three days ago. Has something changed recently to make that not the rule again? Oh, and on that: When's Al Franken resigning, exactly?
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 14, 2017 05:11 PM (bB4HN)
Posted by: Whoopie! at December 14, 2017 05:11 PM (AoK0a)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2017 05:11 PM (p+Wdc)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2017 05:11 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Billy Jeff Clinton, 26 time passenger on Lolita Express at December 14, 2017 05:11 PM (ylUqT)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2017 05:11 PM (QC/4S)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2017 05:12 PM (p+Wdc)
Posted by: dantesed at December 14, 2017 05:12 PM (88xKn)
CNN: Well it's not like he drinks 12 Coke's in one day
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:12 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Random Hawaii Judge #9 at December 14, 2017 05:13 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: Tom Carper at December 14, 2017 05:13 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:13 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: mrp at December 14, 2017 05:13 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: dantesed at December 14, 2017 05:12 PM (88xKn)
He and his appointed successor are going to have a slappy fight to see who gets the seat
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:13 PM (493sH)
Posted by: dantesed at December 14, 2017 05:12 PM (88xKn)
Of course not.
Posted by: Keith at December 14, 2017 05:13 PM (USf3s)
Posted by: Billy Jeff Clinton, 26 time passenger on Lolita Express at December 14, 2017 05:14 PM (ylUqT)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:14 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 14, 2017 05:14 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: Randy West at December 14, 2017 05:15 PM (fvkPE)
Any second...
Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2017 05:15 PM (lKs2v)
That's because she's out whoring for campaign contributions.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:15 PM (493sH)
Not only did Trump Jr say 'f-you, bitch' to his pre-school
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:16 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 14, 2017 05:16 PM (QQ+il)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2017 05:16 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Mike at December 14, 2017 05:16 PM (IS7dx)
Kristen Lightweight Gillibrand is on her knees somewhere giving blow jobs for political contributions.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:16 PM (mHQeW)
Kneepads Gillibrand
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:17 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2017 05:17 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2017 05:17 PM (Sfs6o)
580
510
Do you get the child tax credits if you don't itemize? Why should a
married couple with 6 children be taxed at the same rate as a married
couple with no children? I'm fine with a flat tax, but that's not
happening this year. So I'm good with a child tax credit. Either that,
or every adult gets taxed as an individual.
Posted by: grammie winger - stunned by Christmas at December 14, 2017 04:58 PM (lwiT4)
It
is a "credit' not a deduction so you get it regardless of how you file
as long as you have a child under 17. It is just another welfare payment
that benefits large families in the ghetto. You also get the EIC credit
because booth of these are means tested for low income.
This credit is different from the dependents you take credit for at the begging of the form too.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 05:17 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:13 PM (mHQeW)
I saw Sexual Slap open for Barry White in '75 at a studio filming of Soul Train.
Posted by: SKYnet Justicar Subroutine 57-x-Gamma, thirty years from now. at December 14, 2017 05:17 PM (hcyUh)
Any second...
Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2017 05:15 PM (lKs2v)
They're still preparing statements to denounce Franken. That should be any decade now
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:17 PM (493sH)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 14, 2017 05:17 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 05:17 PM (mpXpK)
It's going to be a nightmare.
Posted by: Randy West at December 14, 2017 05:17 PM (fvkPE)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 14, 2017 05:17 PM (fA1SL)
I gotta say it totally blew my expectations out of the water. It is amazing. Kudos to bluebell et. al. for their work on it.
It is something to be proud of.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 14, 2017 05:18 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 14, 2017 05:18 PM (hcyUh)
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2017 05:17 PM (Sfs6o)
No, but it was a tax.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 14, 2017 05:18 PM (7uYFy)
Again, notice how Franken has not been kicked off a single committee yet.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:18 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: Clenis at December 14, 2017 05:18 PM (r9UYA)
IOW, if she didn't press charges, what is the big deal? Did anyone consider asking her if this was an issue?
OTOH, feck 'em all. Politicians are the worst sort, worse even than actors. The morals of a cat. And not a nice cat, either.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2017 05:19 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 14, 2017 05:19 PM (7uYFy)
Again, notice how Franken has not been kicked off a single committee yet.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:18 PM (mHQeW)
Well, no, but he IS off my Christmas card list.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2017 05:19 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: fox at December 14, 2017 05:19 PM (DVC2D)
Alternate post title:
And Yet Another Democrat Champion of Women: This One Used To Occasionally Go A Couple Of Rounds With His Wife
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:20 PM (mHQeW)
I gotta say it totally blew my expectations out of the water. It is amazing. Kudos to bluebell et. al. for their work on it.
It is something to be proud of.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 14, 2017 05:18 PM (nILVB)
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Thanks! Glad you like it!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2017 05:20 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Hands at December 14, 2017 05:20 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:20 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: Tom Carper at December 14, 2017 05:21 PM (9LIpg)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 14, 2017 05:21 PM (fA1SL)
Will a single Republican Senator asked Carper to resign over this?
Posted by: Maritime at December 14, 2017 05:21 PM (lKmt3)
Can someone photochop a poster of Tom Carper wearing boxing gloves and caption it: "Democrat Champion For Women"?
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:22 PM (mHQeW)
Yeah, that's the ticket.
Posted by: Tom Carper at December 14, 2017 05:22 PM (6n332)
Posted by: mark1971 at December 14, 2017 05:22 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: Sean Connery at December 14, 2017 05:22 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 14, 2017 05:22 PM (7uYFy)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 14, 2017 05:22 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 05:22 PM (5b+Sr)
When Hell freezes over or MSNBC goes conservative.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 05:23 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 14, 2017 05:23 PM (6Ll1u)
Tom: Yes.
Reporter: Oh..... That was supposed to be a gotcha question.
Tom: Gotcha.
Posted by: typical white woman at December 14, 2017 05:23 PM (IiR2y)
Can someone photochop a poster of Tom Carper wearing boxing gloves and caption it: "Democrat Champion For Women"?
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:22 PM (mHQeW)
Heh. Undefeated World Champion, it sounds like.
Never lost a bout yet!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 14, 2017 05:23 PM (hcyUh)
Posted by: Maritime at December 14, 2017 05:21 PM (lKmt3)
They're too "principled" to do that
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:23 PM (493sH)
Maybe her face was "well-protected" just like Leann Tweeden's breasts were when al wanken "jokingly" "pretended" to squeeze them?
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:23 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: Billy Jeff Clinton, 26 time passenger on Lolita Express at December 14, 2017 05:23 PM (ylUqT)
Only icky conservatives have to play by the rules.
Posted by: Vanceone at December 14, 2017 05:24 PM (HDMVB)
btw, did you hear that?
That was the alt-left's latest spin for Franken: Tweeden's breasts were "well-protected" [by Army gear] therefore there wasn't really any touching.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:24 PM (mHQeW)
What goes on between a husband and wife is supposed to be nobody else's business, right up until the police are called.
IOW, if she didn't press charges, what is the big deal? Did anyone consider asking her if this was an issue?
OTOH, feck 'em all. Politicians are the worst sort, worse even than actors. The morals of a cat. And not a nice cat, either.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2017 05:19 PM (7UW64)
Except when they go to family court for a divorce.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 05:25 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 14, 2017 05:25 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Weekend Update at December 14, 2017 05:25 PM (HAA3B)
That would have been weird.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 14, 2017 05:25 PM (sGSvK)
Posted by: Hands at December 14, 2017 05:25 PM (EzdLW)
Carper is going to announce that he will live his life as a gay man who slaps his wife
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:25 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 05:26 PM (5b+Sr)
That was the alt-left's latest spin for Franken: Tweeden's breasts were "well-protected" [by Army gear] therefore there wasn't really any touching.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:24 PM (mHQeW)
Jeez.
"It can't be rape, yer honor! I was wearin' a rubber! She was totally protected!"
F*ckin' perv.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 14, 2017 05:26 PM (hcyUh)
Oh, and on that: When's Al Franken resigning, exactly?
When Hell freezes over or MSNBC goes conservative.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 05:23 PM (mpXpK)
When are we going to see the list of payoffs the Government made with our taxpayer money to silence the victims of abuse at the hands of our "betters"?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 14, 2017 05:26 PM (jxbfJ)
Things are getting very interesting.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2017 05:26 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Fresh Air at December 14, 2017 05:26 PM (eJdkv)
You know when you'll know the Democrats have had enough of Franken's stalling?
When they instruct the MN governor to announce a date Franken will be replaced.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:26 PM (mHQeW)
He left her in a locker and his assistant took her out and slapped her.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2017 05:26 PM (IqV8l)
"Do I regret it? Yes... should've punched the bitch in the nose instead."
Posted by: Kasper-X-Hauser at December 14, 2017 05:26 PM (HqpV0)
Posted by: Mohammed sez... at December 14, 2017 05:26 PM (ylUqT)
In other words, a date will be set soon, but it won't be by Franken. Which will be hilarious. Mark my words.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:27 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2017 05:27 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 14, 2017 05:27 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: Alabama voters at December 14, 2017 05:27 PM (EzdLW)
Waitress sandwiches for everyone
Posted by: sofa saver at December 14, 2017 05:27 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2017 05:27 PM (/tuJf)
Yes and no.
In Michigan, slapping one's wife is assault. It's counted as such on the Uniform Crime Report (UCR) filed with the FBI each year to compare with other states. They call it a "Uniform" Crime Report because all the states are suppose to follow the same rules.
In Delaware, slapping one's wife goes into a category marked "Family Violence". These crimes aren't counted in the Delaware UCR, therefore the violent crime statistics make it seem that Delaware is a safe state to live in.
Unless you're married or dating the guy who is slapping you around.
This is what liberals do.
They can't help lying, even with "Uniform" crime reports.
When I talked with the FBI about this, they said they couldn't do anything because it's a voluntary program for all the states. When I suggested a footnote that explained that the violent crime rate of certain states was wildly misleading do to this type of misreporting, they said their hands were tied.
Fucking worthless bureaucrats.
Posted by: Jwest at December 14, 2017 05:28 PM (/roJx)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 14, 2017 05:28 PM (4u7kU)
Not unless that bitch didn't stop talking while I was watching TV, again. I've warned her.
Posted by: Tom Carper, WIfe Beater Supreme at December 14, 2017 05:28 PM (8gDQu)
Don't Make Him Tell You Again.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 14, 2017 05:28 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Tom Crapper at December 14, 2017 05:28 PM (IqV8l)
Government made with our taxpayer money to silence the victims of abuse
at the hands of our "betters"?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 14, 2017 05:26 PM (jxbfJ)
Parts of it are starting to leak out.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 05:28 PM (mpXpK)
Again I remind everyone: Alan Grayson, who is back in Congress, was accused of beating his wife.
a police report was filed, I'm pretty sure
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:28 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2017 05:28 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 05:28 PM (5b+Sr)
Are we establishing the process that anything ever is criminalized?
If so, let's just destroy everybody, everywhere.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 14, 2017 05:29 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Tom Carper, WIfe Beater Supreme at December 14, 2017 05:29 PM (8gDQu)
Tom "Ike Turner" Carper: Did I slap my wife? Fck yeah I did!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:29 PM (493sH)
How's that phrase go?
"Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics"?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 14, 2017 05:29 PM (hcyUh)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2017 05:30 PM (eJ2lR)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 14, 2017 05:31 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:31 PM (493sH)
Tom "Ike Turner" Carper: Did I slap my wife? Fck yeah I did!!
Only after Harry Reid asked: "Who bitch this is?"
Posted by: Jwest at December 14, 2017 05:31 PM (/roJx)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2017 05:32 PM (13Yel)
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 05:32 PM (5b+Sr)
So, mandatory chest armor for all female Senate staffers and interns*. Then Al gets to stay.
*Democrat ones. The GOP ones have to go, because ALL GOP Senators have to go. Because #metoo.
Posted by: Hands at December 14, 2017 05:32 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2017 05:32 PM (k1TUh)
She had it coming, and if you don't stop asking me these stupid questions I'm going to slap your wife, too!
Fvcking peasants!
Posted by: Tom Carper, WIfe Beater Supreme at December 14, 2017 05:33 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: mark1971 at December 14, 2017 05:33 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: Hic*llary at December 14, 2017 05:33 PM (oVJmc)
37 My cookbook arrived today.
I gotta say it totally blew my expectations out of the water. It is amazing. Kudos to bluebell et. al. for their work on it.
It is something to be proud of.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 14, 2017 05:18 PM (nILVB)
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Got mine last night. Really impressive. Much bigger than I imagined, plus I'm leading off in the Pasta section. Ray me!
Posted by: Javems at December 14, 2017 05:33 PM (yOqwj)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:34 PM (493sH)
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: @JRandomMoron at December 14, 2017 05:34 PM (ctuyM)
So, mandatory chest armor for all female Senate staffers and interns.
Yum, Brunnhilde-style chest plates!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2017 05:34 PM (TeECP)
Oh, NASA's big annoucement we discussed the other night (they've found alien life is the typical rumor) turned out to be a nothingburger.
They found an 8th exoplanet around some star, which now makes an exosolar system with as many planets as our own (with Pluto demoted, of course).
That was the big annoucement.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at December 14, 2017 05:34 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Doug Jones at December 14, 2017 05:34 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 14, 2017 05:34 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 05:35 PM (5b+Sr)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 14, 2017 05:35 PM (4u7kU)
The Paolo: I too hit his wife. But in different sort of way, yes
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:35 PM (493sH)
Are we establishing the process that anything ever is criminalized?
If so, let's just destroy everybody, everywhere.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 14, 2017 05:29 PM (oVJmc)
The "process", I would think, is that it WAS illegal then, and it was wrong for everyone involved to hush it up and sweep it under the rug.
Again, it's not a so-called "witch hunt" if they actually ARE witches.
These men getting rounded up (they seem to all be men so far) actually ARE perverts and predators and generally shitty characters.
Being a Democrat, or a Hollywood magnate, or whatever, shouldn't insulate you from that.
Getting away with it for two decades shouldn't insulate you from that.
When they start rounding up people who are innocent, I'll start worrying.
When they start filing legal charges without due process, I'll start worrying.
Now? Let the f*ckers file a wrongful termination suit if they feel wronged...
but they won't, because they're all guilty as sin and they know it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 14, 2017 05:36 PM (hcyUh)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Damn straight.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2017 05:36 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Tom Carper at December 14, 2017 05:36 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 05:36 PM (5b+Sr)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2017 05:36 PM (tkE+D)
Seriously.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 14, 2017 05:36 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: William Eaton at December 14, 2017 05:36 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2017 05:36 PM (aC6Sd)
If we played the game like democrats, every speech, interview or casual recorded statement would somehow reference Carper slapping his wife.
"Mr. Chairman, provision 4 of the bill to be amended should be slapped out like Senator Carper's wife."
"When I heard about the poll, I was hit with the realization like Senator Carper's wife being knocked up side the head."
Posted by: Jwest at December 14, 2017 05:37 PM (/roJx)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2017 05:36 PM (aC6Sd)
Simon Templar for Senate
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:37 PM (493sH)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 14, 2017 05:37 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Uncle Harvey at December 14, 2017 05:38 PM (8O3HH)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2017 05:38 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2017 05:38 PM (BoMuO)
The left linked "reproductive rights" and the global warming hoax today to the absurdly-named net neutrality.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:38 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2017 05:38 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:24 PM (mHQeW)
Jackass tries that with me or mine and he'd better hope his nuts are "well-protected." Cause he's gonna be wearing them for earrings.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2017 05:38 PM (7UW64)
ARE perverts and predators and generally shitty characters.
++++++++++
I will repeat, being a liberal POS does not mean you should be railroaded based on accusations alone with no evidence to back up those accusations. That is what is happening.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 14, 2017 05:38 PM (SrkNc)
Posted by: Bicentennialguy
There's a guy who came across as having no self restraint.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2017 05:39 PM (+lVUW)
Tom Carper: She didn't complain after I hit her. Didn't say anything in fact. Of course she was unconscious for a while
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:39 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2017 05:39 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2017 05:27 PM (/tuJf)
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Strzok struck out the "please don't murder me " at the end.
Posted by: MAGA at December 14, 2017 05:39 PM (vLsUj)
"Do I regret it? Yes... should've punched the bitch in the nose instead."
Posted by: Kasper-X-Hauser at December 14, 2017 05:26 PM (HqpV0)
Because she would NOT listen!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'don't judge me!' at December 14, 2017 05:40 PM (xFBfz)
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 05:40 PM (KdDCu)
Let's not upset him. Or at least give his wife fair warning,
Posted by: Billy Jeff Clinton, 26 time passenger on the Lolita Express at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (ylUqT)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (BoMuO)
Almost like there are two different systems of justice or something.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (oVJmc)
Seriously.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 14, 2017 05:36 PM (nILVB)
Great God Almighty, these women are idiotic.
Honestly, God, I think you put them here to try us all.
Women have been aborting since well before the written word. Doesn't make it any more moral, but it goes on without corporate sponsorship, you dolts.
Babies have been in peril since before, well, YOU were born, you dork.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (7UW64)
I will repeat, being a liberal POS does not mean you should be railroaded based on accusations alone with no evidence to back up those accusations. That is what is happening.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 14, 2017 05:38 PM (SrkNc)
I don't see that.
I see them folding at the first hint of an accusation.
Show me one of these targets fully and completely denying the truth of the allegations, and taking steps to file a wrongful termination suit, and I'll have some sympathy.
For now, they seem to be jerks getting something they've been expecting for a long time.
I agree with you on the principle, of course, I just don't think we're seeing any true "railroading" yet.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (hcyUh)
It's going to be a nightmare.
Posted by: Randy West at December 14, 2017 05:17 PM (fvkPE)
I may have mentioned this before, but in the early nineties I worked for a company that was run by the secretaries (oh, excuse me - adminstrative assistants). It was the pettiest, most vindictive, hate-filled, hysterical company I've ever been in. Job performance mattered less than attire and appropriate subservience. I've always maintained that when you give a weak person power, s/he becomes a tyrant.
Posted by: kathysaysso at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (vkS2Z)
Seriously.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 14, 2017 05:36 PM (nILVB)
She's still a slut. Even if she sleeps with no man.
Posted by: golfman at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (493sH)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (+lVUW)
No men need apply for the next Presidential candidate.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2017 05:42 PM (aC6Sd)
-- William Jefferson Clinton
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 05:42 PM (5b+Sr)
Yea, Baby
Posted by: sofa saver at December 14, 2017 05:42 PM (4u7kU)
If we played the game like democrats, every speech, interview or casual recorded statement would somehow reference Carper slapping his wife...
Posted by: Jwest at December 14, 2017 05:37 PM (/roJx)
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True Republican Virtue is to suffer in silence on the faults of our opponents, but instead to focus forever on our own failings. /s
Posted by: William Eaton at December 14, 2017 05:42 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (FPJNr)
It's up to Republicans to take up the slack. Because they are the ones who claim to practice good morality.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: T.T. Boy at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (fvkPE)
Posted by: kathysaysso at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (vkS2Z)
Welcome to government jobs.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (7UW64)
-- William Jefferson Clinton
On second thought, I don't think I've actually slapped a woman. -- WJC
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (5b+Sr)
denying the truth of the allegations, and taking steps to file a
wrongful termination suit, and I'll have some sympathy.
For now, they seem to be jerks getting something they've been expecting for a long time.
I agree with you on the principle, of course, I just don't think we're seeing any true "railroading" yet.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (hcyUh)
Harold Ford, Jr. for one. Some reporter whose name is escaping me right now for two.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (SrkNc)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (8gDQu)
Knew one of the Horde would state it better than I could.
He's a slut, too.
Posted by: golfman at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (bB4HN)
Beating your wives is permitted under Islam, yes?
Well, there you go.
He was converting to Islam.
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (KdDCu)
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: T.T. Boy at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (fvkPE)
Depends. Was it still attached, or was it swung after the Bobbitting?
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2017 05:44 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: washrivergal at December 14, 2017 05:44 PM (tcwn1)
It's going to be interesting to watch how the media tries to cover this stuff, they can't ignore it forever. But the spin will be enough to change the earth's rotation.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2017 05:44 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2017 05:41 PM (8gDQu)
Hey, it's Delaware, Jake
Posted by: sofa saver at December 14, 2017 05:44 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (nILVB)
Oh yeah, right up there with murdering your babies.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2017 05:44 PM (7UW64)
It's up to Republicans to take up the slack. Because they are the ones who claim to practice good morality.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (3myMJ)
I think that is the endgame of this witch hunt.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 14, 2017 05:44 PM (SrkNc)
Tom Carper: She didn't complain after I hit her. Didn't say anything in fact. Of course she was unconscious for a while
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2017 05:39 PM (493sH)
One of my foster kids had this in his CPS file. "Police called to residence to investigate report that the boyfriend beat one of the children unconscious. Police made contact with the boyfriend who presented 3 of the 4 children for the officer, but stated the fourth child was napping and could not come to the door. The officer reported that he would check on the child later. This case has been ruled unfounded."
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2017 05:45 PM (BoMuO)
Posted by: masochistic &iecxl;Jeb! at December 14, 2017 05:45 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Ray Rice at December 14, 2017 05:46 PM (9LIpg)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 14, 2017 05:46 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Sharkman at December 14, 2017 05:46 PM (FFJtw)
Not really. Progs play Calvinball so the rules are never the same twice except for the rule that the rules are never the same twice.
In the current game of Conservatives vs Progs:
Progs - Pi times the Sun's circumference.
Conservatives - Q, expressed in barleycorns.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2017 05:47 PM (tRaq7)
It occurred to me today that its the same people screaming about STRONG WOMEN!!!! that are screaming about how victimized women are and OMG!!!
Actual strong women don't need the feminist shills using them as props.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 14, 2017 05:47 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 14, 2017 05:47 PM (4u7kU)
Some idjit at MarketWatch commented that he "considered the internet to be a utility".
I pointed out that when you use more of a utility, like water, nat gas, electricity...you pay more.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 05:48 PM (3myMJ)
"As the only African American woman in this White House...I've seen things that have affected me deeply and emotionally, that has affected my community and my people. And when I can tell my story it is a profound story that I know the people will want to hear."
This implies neither a good thing or a bad thing, but the left is assuming what she has to say is scandalous.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2017 05:48 PM (BoMuO)
Posted by: SH at December 14, 2017 05:48 PM (sX1BW)
Trey Gowdy (I know) says he'll be "a little bit surprised if [McCabe] is still an employee of the FBI" when it's time for his testimony next week.
https://tinyurl.com/ybnt385o
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 14, 2017 05:48 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: LASue at December 14, 2017 05:48 PM (Mjus2)
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (bB4HN)
According to his wife, he abused he repeatedly. She at least provided police reports and medical records to back he claim.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 14, 2017 05:49 PM (SrkNc)
-- Kirsten Gillibrand
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 05:49 PM (5b+Sr)
Posted by: Johnny at December 14, 2017 05:49 PM (kUotE)
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 05:49 PM (KdDCu)
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Should it be bad, it will be amazing to see how saintly Omorossa suddenly becomes.
Posted by: SH at December 14, 2017 05:49 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: redbanzai at December 14, 2017 05:43 PM (SrkNc)
OK, I'll agree on that count. (I think I know who you mean on the second one, but I can't think of the name either)
When they start getting out of control with the allegations and ruining people's lives over lies and bullshit, I totally agree that's beyond the pale. And should be remedied with civil lawsuits at the very least.
But I also don't want to dismiss what's going on out-of-hand as a "witch hunt"... not yet, at least.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 14, 2017 05:50 PM (hcyUh)
Posted by: redbanzai at December 14, 2017 05:44 PM (SrkNc)
*Ding* You said the magic word (endgame) and you win $50.
-Grouchy Marxism
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 05:50 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Mr. Teabag at December 14, 2017 05:50 PM (A1FgP)
Omarosa is trolling. She's loyal.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:51 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 14, 2017 05:51 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: SH at December 14, 2017 05:51 PM (sX1BW)
(you'd need BIG billboards)
You know, to help end the War on Women.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 14, 2017 05:51 PM (oQQwD)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 05:51 PM (eO5CB)
Omarosa is trolling. She's loyal.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 05:51 PM (mHQeW)
That's my initial inclination, too.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 14, 2017 05:51 PM (Dp6qK)
174 Cookbook is positively precious.
Posted by: washrivergal at December 14, 2017 05:44 PM (tcwn1)
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Glad you like it wrg!!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2017 05:51 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: sofa saver at December 14, 2017 05:47 PM (4u7kU)
If she identified as a Cherokee, that would be okay, too.
Liz Fauxcahontas Warren.
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 05:52 PM (5b+Sr)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 05:52 PM (eO5CB)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 14, 2017 05:53 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 14, 2017 05:27 PM (nILVB)
----
Proven, tan, rested and ready.
By the way, fuck you.
Posted by: Alan Grayson at December 14, 2017 05:53 PM (3XQfZ)
Posted by: Marcy Kaptur at December 14, 2017 05:53 PM (4u7kU)
Except Ferguson happened in 2014, 1 year BEFORE the net neutrality regs. IF things were so bad with the internet that they stifled communications from the black community, thereby necessitating the government to step in with net neutrality regulations, how in the hell did we ever hear about ferguson?
Black community something, something, oppression something, something, inequality something government needs more control.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2017 05:53 PM (BoMuO)
I pointed out that when you use more of a utility, like water, nat gas, electricity...you pay more.
Which is the real solution to Net Neutrality that neither the customers or the telcos want to talk about.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 14, 2017 05:53 PM (oVJmc)
Did a report ask him about it, or did he volunteer?
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 05:53 PM (KdDCu)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2017 05:54 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: SH at December 14, 2017 05:54 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2017 05:54 PM (LiyEm)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 05:48 PM (3myMJ)
That's not what net neutrality is. Imagine being charged more for your electricity if you don't use the preferred model air conditioner. Or being charged more for the water you use if you brush your teeth with Crest toothpaste instead of Colgate. That's what net neutrality prevented. I agree that this is Congress's territory though. Telecom law needs to be updated.
Large swaths of rural America have no choice of provider. You know, the folks who voted for Trump overwhelmingly.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 05:54 PM (63oy9)
That's right, the one that predisposes all the others.
Life.
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 05:54 PM (eO5CB)
He was converting to Islam.
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms
Indeed. He should have just shrugged and said "It was Allah's Will . . . ."
Then yelled: "BOOOM!!!!" and laughed while all the reporters scattered.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 14, 2017 05:55 PM (FFJtw)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 05:54 PM (eO5CB)
CLEARLY the founding fathers were talking about a square-shaped breakfast cereal. Duh.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 14, 2017 05:55 PM (hcyUh)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2017 05:48 PM (BoMuO)
She's famous by being a sensationalist Reality TV star. She wants to continue getting that attention. That's enough to make me worry.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 05:57 PM (63oy9)
Oh, and was everyone aware that the internet is a civil right now?
Some idjit at MarketWatch commented that he "considered the internet to be a utility".
I pointed out that when you use more of a utility, like water, nat gas, electricity...you pay more.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 05:48 PM (3myMJ)
Heh, yeah. I had forgot about that low hanging fruit.
That's probably why lefties are trotting out that it's about being "content neutral," obfuscating over the fact that a streamed movie takes more bandwidth than smart mil-blogs, while screaming about internet rates skyrocketing to 2015 levels, dogs and cats living together, the dingo Trump ate my baby, and other complete nonsense.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 14, 2017 05:57 PM (Dp6qK)
Thats why Im skipping the ocassional letter from time to time. Not typos. I'm amin to use less of the internet so I ken get a cheaper rat.
pixels require electricity, anna im usin less of it.
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 05:57 PM (KdDCu)
29 years from now when I run for office they'll be coming out of the woodwork like termites.
Posted by: Fritz at December 14, 2017 05:57 PM (A1FgP)
Posted by: Johnny at December 14, 2017 05:57 PM (kUotE)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 05:57 PM (eO5CB)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 05:54 PM (eO5CB)
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Like, duh. How am I supposed to have a life if I have this baby? Sheesh.
Posted by: LIV at December 14, 2017 05:57 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 14, 2017 05:58 PM (6Ll1u)
I certainly hope that's the case. Nothing would tickle me any more than to see more egg on Progda's collective face.
Good thing I like popcorn.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2017 05:58 PM (tRaq7)
He's wrong and won't stop posting about it.
Posted by: DaveA at December 14, 2017 05:58 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Marcy Kaptur at December 14, 2017 05:58 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 05:58 PM (5b+Sr)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 05:57 PM (63oy9)
I don't really have a strong take on this story, but AFAIK she's been working with Trump ever since she was on that show, and they've gotten along well it seems, so I can't imagine her going rogue just for getting fired. I can't imagine that Trump would just can her and let her twist in the wind without setting up some other opportunity for her in one of his companies.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 14, 2017 05:59 PM (hcyUh)
Posted by: SH at December 14, 2017 05:59 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 05:58 PM (5b+Sr)
Or beat-off Keith Ellison.
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 06:00 PM (5b+Sr)
pixels require electricity, anna im usin less of it.
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 05:57 PM (KdDCu)
Worked for that Strzok guy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2017 06:00 PM (MPx70)
Yeah I know, I just went with his premise.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:00 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 06:00 PM (eO5CB)
We've all been guilty of this at one time or another.
Posted by: Johnny at December 14, 2017 06:00 PM (kUotE)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 05:57 PM (eO5CB)
No, Heaven on Earth
Posted by: Marcy Kaptur at December 14, 2017 06:01 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: SH at December 14, 2017 05:59 PM (sX1BW)
Obama and his minions are for it. Therefore it's bad.
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 06:01 PM (5b+Sr)
Obama regulation from about April of 2015. No word on how we survived until then without it.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:01 PM (3myMJ)
I pointed out that when you use more of a utility, like water, nat gas, electricity...you pay more.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 05:48 PM (3myMJ)
That's not what net neutrality is. Imagine being charged more for your electricity if you don't use the preferred model air conditioner. Or being charged more for the water you use if you brush your teeth with Crest toothpaste instead of Colgate. That's what net neutrality prevented. I agree that this is Congress's territory though. Telecom law needs to be updated.
Large swaths of rural America have no choice of provider. You know, the folks who voted for Trump overwhelmingly.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 05:54 PM (63oy9)
No it isn't.
If you want a picture of the future [under net neutrality], imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.
That is net neutrality.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 14, 2017 06:01 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Johnny at December 14, 2017 06:00 PM (kUotE)
If putting carrots in chili is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 14, 2017 06:02 PM (hcyUh)
Large swaths of rural America have no choice of provider. You know, the folks who voted for Trump overwhelmingly.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 05:54 PM (63oy9)
How fast is that changing? Rather rapidly. AS I see it as of now, case law can't keep up with the Internet, let alone legislative statutes.
If it was an established technology, we could treat it like a regulated utility type monopoly, like your water supply, your sewage treatment, or your local power grid. Then, it would make sense to have the Internet treated as a public utility, which was what the Obama Administration edicts did. "Ma Bell" worked well for decades--when the telephone technology was not changing that much.
But now? Things are honestly changing too fast for the Public Utility regulation model.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 14, 2017 06:02 PM (ujg0T)
Very few things are cheaper.
Property taxes are about it.
Gas, groceries. Shit at Wal Mart, Tractor Supply, Bass Pro, Cabela's all the same.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2017 06:02 PM (lmYrx)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:02 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 14, 2017 06:02 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Marcy Kaptur at December 14, 2017 06:02 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: redbanzai at December 14, 2017 05:38 PM (SrkNc)
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I'm about at the point where I don't care if a liberal POS is treated unjustly, denied due process, etc. Kind of feels the same as reading about one criminal shooting another in Chicago. And this railroading doesn't really set a precedent that makes things worse for our side they've already tried to get the president (and still trying) and they got Moore with false accusations. I wish the leftist witchhunters well.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 14, 2017 06:03 PM (/qEW2)
ISPs cannot stream certain content faster than other content. For instance, Comcast is barred from streaming Hulu faster than other feeds. Comcast owns a stake in Hulu and would want to give it preference to get more subscribers.
Posted by: Admiral Ramius at December 14, 2017 06:03 PM (6HWvp)
Posted by: Allen Grayson at December 14, 2017 06:03 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Johnny at December 14, 2017 05:57 PM (kUotE)
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Diane shot first
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at December 14, 2017 06:04 PM (vChNs)
Posted by: Johnny at December 14, 2017 06:04 PM (kUotE)
Property taxes are about it.
Gas, groceries. Shit at Wal Mart, Tractor Supply, Bass Pro, Cabela's all the same.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2017 06:02 PM (lmYrx)
Pot and firewood, what else matters ??
Posted by: Marcy Kaptur at December 14, 2017 06:04 PM (4u7kU)
He denied the Politico report that he was quitting.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 14, 2017 06:05 PM (398bZ)
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 06:05 PM (5b+Sr)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2017 06:06 PM (aC6Sd)
I have 3 internet choices. If I lived two blocks north, I'd have three more. (No cable at my location, satellite service only.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:06 PM (3myMJ)
married couple with 6 children be taxed at the same rate as a married
couple with no children? I'm fine with a flat tax, but that's not
happening this year. So I'm good with a child tax credit. Either that,
or every adult gets taxed as an individual.
Posted by: grammie winger - stunned by Christmas at December 14, 2017 04:58 PM (lwiT4)
It
is a "credit' not a deduction so you get it regardless of how you file
as long as you have a child under 17. It is just another welfare payment
that benefits large families in the ghetto. You also get the EIC credit
because booth of these are means tested for low income.
This credit is different from the dependents you take credit for at the begging of the form too.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 05:17 PM (mpXpK)
...
As a parent of six kids, some who have had the bad sense to get too old for the tax credit, I can confess that I think the child tax credit is a complete scam, and I also take every advantage the system allows me.
Basically pays for homeschooling.
Posted by: TexasDan at December 14, 2017 06:06 PM (yL25O)
Video streaming sends 4.5 GB over a ninety minute period (all numbers approximate).
While the internet is sending billions and billions of bits to millions and millions of people watching online video, the tubes get clogged up and it takes longer to find a slot to send you the web page you want to read, like this one. So the theory goes that people watching online video should pay more than people, like us, reading web pages.
Or another example, a full windows OS upgrade is around 9 GB. If you have a 5GB data plan, like Verizon wireless, you have to pay twice as much to get those last 4 GB of your windows update.
It's like having an 18wheeler using the interstate system. Those trucks are so heavy that they do damage to the concrete so they have to pay more for their license.
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 06:06 PM (KdDCu)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 14, 2017 06:06 PM (fA1SL)
Carper ain't no George S. Patton.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 14, 2017 06:06 PM (mbhDw)
Posted by: redbanzai at December 14, 2017 05:38 PM (SrkNc)
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I'm about at the point where I don't care if a liberal POS is treated unjustly, denied due process, etc. Kind of feels the same as reading about one criminal shooting another in Chicago.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear
Ding. Ding. Ding.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2017 06:07 PM (lmYrx)
Posted by: bergerbilder at December 14, 2017 06:07 PM (lIZQs)
Secondly, and most importantly, you DO NOT WANT THE GOVERNMENT REGULATING THE INTERNET.
Think "Fairness Doctrine" which is the farthest thing from "fair".
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 06:07 PM (eO5CB)
charged more for your electricity if you don't use the preferred model
air conditioner. Or being charged more for the water you use if you
brush your teeth with Crest toothpaste instead of Colgate. That's what
net neutrality prevented. I agree that this is Congress's territory
though. Telecom law needs to be updated.
Large swaths of rural America have no choice of provider. You know, the folks who voted for Trump overwhelmingly.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 05:54 PM (63oy9)
That is most certainly what it is all about. As I said this morning it had two purposes. Allow huge bandwidth users get the same rates as low bandwidth users. Like your neighbor getting the same monthly water bill for using 20,000 gal of water as you get for 2,000 gal of water. And the second purpose was to give the gov a foot in the door for control of internet content. And the Democrats got some huge payoffs from those big providers for that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 06:07 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 14, 2017 06:08 PM (uUBML)
Posted by: Johnny
Take a number and stand in line. :-)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2017 06:09 PM (lmYrx)
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 14, 2017 06:09 PM (nILVB)
Basically pays for homeschooling.
Posted by: TexasDan at December 14, 2017 06:06 PM (yL25O)
Sorry, but I can't think of people more deserving of a tax credit than married couples raising kids--who, trite and cliched as it may be to say, are the future.
And I state this as the "Spinster Son" who did not have kids when my brother and two sisters did.
"Affrodable Family Formation"--google it. The places that vote conservative / libertarian / patriot tend to have it. The places that vote Commeicrat / Demunist / Traitor do not.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 14, 2017 06:09 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Johnny at December 14, 2017 06:04 PM (kUotE)
Me too, and I hardly ever watch her press conferences. I just read what she said afterwards.
Posted by: rickl at December 14, 2017 06:09 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2017 06:10 PM (BoMuO)
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 06:11 PM (5b+Sr)
Sarah's so good
At the domination thing
If she were single
I'd give her a ring
Posted by: Johnny at December 14, 2017 06:11 PM (kUotE)
Woot! Woot!
I really hate that f'ing race baiter.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 14, 2017 06:11 PM (5SRxm)
I have no problem with the child tax credit, until the credit becomes more than you paid in and gives you a negative tax rate.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2017 06:12 PM (BoMuO)
Can someone provide a very simple short primer on net neutrality. I think I may have understood it at one time, but never focused on it. If its an Obama rule being scaled back, I'm sure in favor of the action taken today. Still curious what it did exactly.
Posted by: SH at December 14, 2017 05:59 PM (sX1BW)
Check Stefan Molyneux for a longer primer.
It was from the original debates in 2014 or 2015. It's the same debate. Just watch it backward.
Here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z_nBhfpmk4
Nutshell is FCC tried to regulate ISPs under a particular statutory scheme, like utilities, which have anti-discrimination provisions, essentially giving the FCC broad regulatory authority.
Courts shot them down. Repeatedly. Thus, ISPs remained being regulated under less stringent service provider regulations, as it had been for 20+ years of innovation and development of services and content.
President Pen and Phone usurped Congress, seized such power for the FCC, thereby creating sufficient opportunity for graft, where there was none. This was 2015.
Barking moonbats mechanically rejoiced and regurgitated acceptable thoughts spewed forth by propagandists about tiered pricing and content neutrality.
Trump rained on their parade - probably grabbing some mish while drinking 12 diet cokes to wash down two scoops of ice cream - and returned us to the horrors of the 2015 internet regulation.
Barking moonbats mechanically lost their shit and regurgitated acceptable
thoughts spewed forth by propagandists about tiered pricing and content
neutrality.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 14, 2017 06:12 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 06:12 PM (eO5CB)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 14, 2017 06:12 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 14, 2017 06:13 PM (5SRxm)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 05:54 PM (63oy9)
We share your concern, Brian. By all means, keep "Net Neutrality" in place. That way, WE make sure everybody has the same choices as "rural America". Because our experts know what choices people should be making.
Posted by: Your Regulatory Overlords at December 14, 2017 06:13 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: J. Sessions at December 14, 2017 06:13 PM (r9UYA)
Perfect summation
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 06:13 PM (eO5CB)
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 06:06 PM (KdDCu)
Given how fond certain Democrats were of talking about an "information superhighway" this is an apt analogy.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 14, 2017 06:13 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: x at December 14, 2017 06:14 PM (nFwvY)
Sarah's so good
At the domination thing
If she were single
I'd give her a ring
Posted by: Johnny at December 14, 2017 06:11 PM (kUotE)
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A verbal spanking is the 2nd best kind
Posted by: Mistress Midnight Flame at December 14, 2017 06:14 PM (vChNs)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:15 PM (3myMJ)
*23 years old and lives on food stamps, WIC, medicaid, disability for 'back problems' and HUD.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2017 06:15 PM (BoMuO)
A leftoid fashion company is launching a new campaign featuring only "real-looking" (i.e. not attractive) models:
http://www.thisisinsider.com/ missguided-unretouched-models-make-your-mark-campaign-2017-12
They say that "real" models are actually superior to overly made-up thin models.
All the feminists agree and are lining up to spend all their cash buying the clothes of this company with its clever marketing gimmick designed to deceive SJWs.
But more importantly: Are any of their models actually hot, while pretending not to be?
So let's check it out: Here is the page for the campaign:
https://www.missguided.co.uk/campaign/make-your-mark
Question for the (male hetero) Horde: Which of these model would you NOT kick out of bed?
Assessment:
Two of the eight models are morbidly obese: Felicity, Sam. Kick. Out.
Two of the models are merely obese: Tinar and Ally. Out.
Three of the models are only "normally" overweight, but are kinda diseased-looking (as in venereal disease -- they're all "sex-positive" feminists): Jade, Nylo, and Nelly.
Which leaves us with just ONE model who is, in actual reality, sexy and cute: Emily. She is allowed to stay in the bed.
Nylo is maybe passable, but Emily is The One.
Agree? Or disagree?
Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2017 06:15 PM (42M22)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2017 06:15 PM (X287T)
Posted by: Hands at December 14, 2017 06:15 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: Matt Lauer's Executive Chair at December 14, 2017 06:16 PM (MiLnO)
Let me simply Net Neutrality for you:
Net Neutrality Was Ultimately About Controlling Content
It was the all-encompassing obamacare for the Internet. Govt would have full control of who provided content on the Internet.
Kapeesh?
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:16 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: Hepcat<<<
Is your weasel a Democrat and did your weasel file charges within the first 48 hours of your abusive behavior? If not, it's a nothingburger, - but still it's perfectly reasonable to call these Democrat fucksticks out on their life of hypocrisy.
Posted by: Fritz at December 14, 2017 06:16 PM (A1FgP)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:17 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2017 06:17 PM (UdKB7)
Slapping is battery - it involves unwanted contact. Assault is something that creates the apprehension of unwanted contact.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at December 14, 2017 06:17 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 06:12 PM (eO5CB)
You need Location Neutrality!
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:17 PM (3myMJ)
The purpose of taxes should only be to give the money for the government to perform necessary functions. it should not be for ANY welfare or social purposes. My ideal tax system would be a flat tax on ALL income regardless of source with no credits or deductions for anything.
That way EVERYONE gets s stake in the system and lower rates for the people who have been paying all along.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 06:17 PM (mpXpK)
Just like obamacare wasn't about costs, coverage, or access. obamacare is about Controlling The U.S. Health Care System.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:17 PM (mHQeW)
He's wrong and won't stop posting about it.
Posted by: DaveA at December 14, 2017 05:58 PM (FhXTo)
The people here who believe that this is about metering are wrong. The internet has always been metered and NN did nothing to prevent this. What net neutrality did do was prevent ISP's from prioritizing some site's traffic over other traffic. A data packet is a data packet regardless of where it's coming from. Now your ISP can cripple a video streaming service, for example, in favor of pushing their own video streaming service. Or in a worst case block sites altogether based on their own political beliefs. Sites like this one.
That's just on the consumer end. On the content side they can now work out side deals with those providers to lock out future competitors. Think YouTube making a peer agreement with Cox's backbone that locks out a future video competitor that doesn't even exist now from even entering the space.
It has nothing to do with how much internet you consume, it's about WHAT internet your provider allows you to consume.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:18 PM (63oy9)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at December 14, 2017 06:18 PM (kXoT0)
https://tinyurl.com/y8fdcrtv
Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2017 06:18 PM (lKs2v)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 06:12 PM (eO5CB)
Where can your kid not go to public school because the parent's income is too large? I would demand a property tax refund, then.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2017 06:18 PM (BoMuO)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 06:18 PM (eO5CB)
Woot! Woot!
I really hate that f'ing race baiter.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 14, 2017 06:11 PM (5SRxm)
Larry Elder Challenges Tavis Smiley w/ Reagan Stats
https://tinyurl.com/yctup26v
This is a classic take-down. It's been years now and Smiley never got back to Elder with the promised stats.
Posted by: Hepcat at December 14, 2017 06:18 PM (5b+Sr)
While this may have happened a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, it deserves to be called out now. By allowing a predator in the workplace, and not doing enough to fight sexual harassment, the Jedi Council ultimately engineers its own demise.
Members of the Jedi Council should've removed Skywalker from the Jedi Order after his many missteps while protecting Sen. Padmé Amidala. If they had, Chancellor Palpatine would have been unable to leverage Skywalker into destroying the Jedi Order, dismantling democracy and creating the first Galactic Empire.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at December 14, 2017 06:18 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: harry lime at December 14, 2017 06:19 PM (ALDN3)
Do you know anything about a bomb threat?
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 14, 2017 06:19 PM (2DOZq)
Next you'll be telling us that the Fairness Doctrine isn't about fairness...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:19 PM (MINbv)
Next you'll be telling us that the Fairness Doctrine isn't about fairness...
Posted by: Anon a mouse
Or that "Affirmative Action" is not affirmative.
Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2017 06:20 PM (42M22)
You know how the large fascist health care insurers are on board with obamacare because 1) they play ball with the Leftist-Fascists, and 2) they're getting subsidized big time, and 3) all their competition is being driven out of business.
What we end up with is a health care insurer who provides Leftist health care.
Same with Net Neutrality.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:20 PM (mHQeW)
Local leftyville where the public schools are only for the disadvantaged as are the advanced classes because privilege.
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 06:20 PM (eO5CB)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 14, 2017 06:21 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: SH at December 14, 2017 05:59 PM (sX1BW)
ISPs cannot stream certain content faster than other content. For instance, Comcast is barred from streaming Hulu faster than other feeds. Comcast owns a stake in Hulu and would want to give it preference to get more subscribers.
Posted by: Admiral Ramius at December 14, 2017 06:03 PM (6HWvp)
And this is what the propagandists have their useful idiots barking about.
Both companies are sufficiently sophisticated and financially able to bargain and fight in court if need be to protect their rights to free and open access under existing (2015 pre-NN) regulatory schemes, and they managed it all just fine, before obama gave them a massive and unconstitutional crony capitalist handout.
It would be laughable if these non-thinkers were not so easily manipulated.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 14, 2017 06:21 PM (Dp6qK)
You might be right at a certain level, Brian. But the level of screeching from the leftists and the fact that Soros trolls are out on this one (Case in point) means there is also something far more sinister buried in the rule.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2017 06:22 PM (BoMuO)
Wait, the Fairness Doctrine is all about fairness. It is not fair that the progress point of view can't be heard without rules that demand equal time.
And it is only fair that the illegitimate and dishonest conservative point of view not pollute the public spectrum with their false and misleading policy talking points.
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 06:22 PM (KdDCu)
http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/70/05/26/14701975/3/core_breaking_now.jpg
"I like my Internet like I like my country: FREE and OPEN."
Net neutrality is basically the OPPOSITE of a free & open Internet, since it's all about government control of the Internet.
Yet they all parrot the leftist narrative like complete automatons.
Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2017 06:22 PM (42M22)
And that's a problem why, exactly? I subscribe to Hulu, so bring it on!
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:22 PM (MINbv)
There are plenty of public schools that I would not want my kids to go to regardless of how much income I had.
Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2017 06:23 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: T.T. Boy at December 14, 2017 06:23 PM (fvkPE)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:24 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: Admiral Ramius at December 14, 2017 06:03 PM (6HWvp)
And then Netflix becomes its own ISP and competes with Comcast, prices come down, quality improves and everybody wins.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 14, 2017 06:24 PM (BoMuO)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2017 06:24 PM (QC/4S)
Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2017 06:15 PM (42M22)
It's not so much their weight or body type--it's the fact that everyone of them, including Emily, looks like Kathy Griffin level stripper/hooker/drag queen. They just look grimy and hey, when I am shopping for clothes, I do not think to myself:
"Hey, Sherry, old girl, which clothing line presents me with an opportunity to look like a grimy drag queen for the win?""
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is a cranky GF hag, thank you very much. at December 14, 2017 06:24 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 14, 2017 06:24 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:24 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: Matt Lauer's Executive Chair at December 14, 2017 06:24 PM (MiLnO)
Then they proceed to show us models with dyed hair (ie, not real hair color). And tattooes (which, while sometimes ok, are not "real" skin tone). Wearing outfits that the vast majority of "real women" are never going to wear.
Take "Jade", for instance. Naturally pretty. Even has real freckles. But she also has white yarn hair and tatts all up and down left hand-arm-shoulder.
They'd probably call me a h8ter for questioning how they've defined "real".
Posted by: Hands at December 14, 2017 06:24 PM (EzdLW)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 06:24 PM (eO5CB)
Posted by: T.T. Boy at December 14, 2017 06:25 PM (fvkPE)
Just a crazy guess, but I'll guess Net Neutrality opens the door for a "local tax" to be applied.
And an "environmental impact fee."
See where I'm going with this?
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:25 PM (mHQeW)
Thomas Edison invented the first Wife-Slapping Machine in 1926.
Not to be outdone by his rival, Nikola Tesla invented a machine able to whoop your wife's ass with a car antenna.
So effective was Tesla's Car Antenna Ass-Whoopin' Machine that he was able work part-time as a New York pimp and paid off his crushing debts in that manner.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 14, 2017 06:25 PM (NyJwR)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 05:57 PM (eO5CB)
That is a relevant argument. When Congress forced telcos to provide phone service to rural areas, was that good or bad? Are you suggesting that if one doesn't choose to live in big cities that's their fault for not having a telephone?
Half of the US population has access to exactly one broadband provider. The technology we are talking about was invented by the public sector (i.e paid for by the taxpayer). The transmission/distribution of data packets was built by the taxpayer. It is a utility.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:25 PM (63oy9)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2017 06:25 PM (aC6Sd)
I would further note that people who threaten violence if they don't get their way are probably on the wrong side of the issue.
Posted by: rickl at December 14, 2017 06:25 PM (sdi6R)
You have great promise as a comedian and I mean that in a good way!
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:25 PM (3myMJ)
My rule of thumb is that if it gives the government more power it's bad.
Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2017 06:25 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 14, 2017 06:26 PM (toi7g)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:26 PM (mHQeW)
Yes.
If you liked the telephone system before divestiture when there was little innovation, it wasn't till the 1970s that rotary phones were finally gone, but everyone got the same service at the same price, then you would love the internet under net neutrality.
If you like the years since then when things like the internet and pretty much 90% of all the communications technology we currently use including content, streaming video, streaming musics, downloads .. all kinds of content and communications, then you don't want net neutrality.
When you turn the communication technology into a utility, and that's exactly what net neutrality does, then you limit the growth of content and communications technology we get.
It's that simple. Net neutrality is government control, socialism, of the underlying network. We'll all get service, the exact same service, and it will be at a lower grade.
Socialism always works the same way.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2017 06:26 PM (/tuJf)
Next you'll be telling us there's some sort of "invisible hand" and "supply" and "demand".
Which is way worse than having a group of mandarins in DC decide what is "fair"
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:26 PM (MINbv)
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How is that even legal?
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 14, 2017 06:26 PM (nILVB)
Does the job pay well. I could be persuaded to model if the pay rate was worth it.
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 06:26 PM (KdDCu)
I am talking about the people who have to put up the cable, the transformers, the internet data processing sites, et al. These large bandwidth users SHOULD pay more for streaming their product because they are creating the need for even more of these infrastructure to be put in place. And that costs a LOT of money and someone has to pay for it. Ultimatly what net neutrality did was subsidize the lower costs for large users by making small users pay more.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 06:26 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 06:27 PM (eO5CB)
Posted by: Admiral Ramius at December 14, 2017 06:03 PM (6HWvp)
Not after today! Those restrictions are now gone!
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:27 PM (63oy9)
Posted by: Matt Lauer's Executive Chair
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The more important question is what did he slap her with? Cause frankly, you haven't been slapped unless you've been slapped by me.
Posted by: MeAgains Tucked Penis at December 14, 2017 06:27 PM (c89oE)
Three words: Value Added Tax. At what level of production you tax something DOES have massive implications.
Moreover, yes a society of widely distributed stakeholders is MUCH less likely to vote for commie crap than one without it. Which is why we have policies that encourage home ownership and ownership of one's own pensions.
If we can move "Social Security", "Medicare" and other employer proviced health insurance policies more into the same individually owned realm as 401Ks and (Roth) IRA's, that would be an improvement too. Which is why the Comiecrats screamed and cried when the Bush Administration proposed these kind of things. One of the few good economic moves the otherwise RINOey Bush Administration proposed. (Scamnesty certainly was not. )
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 14, 2017 06:28 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2017 06:28 PM (aC6Sd)
What do onanists think of Adam Smith's invisible hand?
Posted by: wooga at December 14, 2017 06:29 PM (uCYAx)
I'm FOR smashing it AGAINST a wall until it's dead, which it is, as I understand the situation.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:29 PM (3myMJ)
Time fer some buckshot or a sak-a-dimes.
Posted by: Snuffy Smith's lookin' fer Bob at December 14, 2017 06:29 PM (242F/)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2017 06:29 PM (QC/4S)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 06:17 PM (mpXpK)
You have great promise as a comedian and I mean that in a good way!
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:25 PM (3myMJ)
You notice I said "should". Income tax started out that way originally but it did not take the socialists long to make it another social program and government money sink.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 06:29 PM (mpXpK)
Which is kind of funny, 'cause I'm guessing that the most ardent NN supporters have no clue that one could purchase more access from ATT - the only source for your phone and service.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:29 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:29 PM (mHQeW)
Bullshit. There are many ways to deliver data. The free market should determine what it wants.
Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2017 06:29 PM (UdKB7)
It's that simple. Net neutrality is government control, socialism, of the underlying network. We'll all get service, the exact same service, and it will be at a lower grade.
Socialism always works the same way.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2017 06:26 PM (/tuJf)
In fairness, there are some situations with long-established and unchanging infrastructure where a regulated monopoly utility model works out fine, like a water company.
But the Internet? No, not yet. And perhaps not ever.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 14, 2017 06:30 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:18 PM (63oy9)
And NN is the gateway to what internet WE allow you to consume, eventually. (Just as O-care was the 1st step toward what med services WE allow you to receive).
Posted by: Your Regulatory Overlords at December 14, 2017 06:31 PM (EzdLW)
1. A data packet is a data packet regardless of where it's coming from.
2. Now your ISP can cripple a video streaming service, for example, in favor of pushing their own video streaming service.
3. Or in a worst case block sites altogether based on their own political beliefs. Sites like this one.
4. That's just on the consumer end. On the content side they can now work out side deals with those providers to lock out future competitors. Think YouTube making a peer agreement with Cox's backbone that locks out a future video competitor that doesn't even exist now from even entering the space.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:18 PM (63oy9)
1. Maybe, but 1 data packet is not 10 GB of data packets.
2. No it can't. It couldn't under under pre-NN, either. Physically, yes, it can happen. But companies are regulated to proscribe unfair trade practices and anti-competitive behavior, without NN.
3. No it can't. It can try. For big companies, see 2. For smaller concerns, VPN is still an option, as are state level AG actions, many of which are now being touted by lefty dunderhead governors as a solution. (This is a solution that pre and post existed NN.).
4. This is overblown. See 2. And corporate liability laws.
Stop already.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 14, 2017 06:31 PM (Dp6qK)
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How is that even legal?
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 14, 2017 06:26 PM (nILVB)
It's legal because it's all wink and nod, not a statute. Even the lefty "true-believers" only last a year. They find out that if they aren't in a criminal gang, illegal, or on free lunch their kid is told to "not provoke" the bullies, etc.
Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2017 06:31 PM (eO5CB)
.....
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2017 06:26 PM (/tuJf)
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but the cable that runs content is still in the hands of the few. now what ?
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2017 06:31 PM (QC/4S)
Luxury - all we had was sock made from the skin leftover after our father ate the last of our feet, filled with our own dried tears and clotted blood.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 14, 2017 06:31 PM (fA1SL)
I am totally against a VAT of any kind. They have always turned out to be a huge government Hell.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 06:31 PM (mpXpK)
Which any competent ISP could've done years ago. Wanna guess why they didn't?
*hint - no government involvement*
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:32 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: buzzion at December 14, 2017 06:32 PM (lKs2v)
Whatever it means it's a hell of a lot better than "assgasm".
Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2017 06:32 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Matt Lauer's Executive Chair
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The more important question is what did he slap her with? Cause frankly, you haven't been slapped unless you've been slapped by me.
Oh, I remember you? Matt mentioned he enjoyed getting smacked by you. The makeup guys had a helluva time getting him ready for Today.
Posted by: Matt Lauer's Executive Chair at December 14, 2017 06:32 PM (MiLnO)
Posted by: rammajamma at December 14, 2017 06:33 PM (oAlzZ)
Half of the US population has access to exactly one broadband provider.
Cursed (or blessed) by geography.
It's a big country.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2017 06:33 PM (IqV8l)
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Seriously there are consequences either way. The best that can be said is in a wild west laissezfaire environment some people are going to profit, and those profits will encourage other people to try and get in on the game, usually through innovation.
That's the theory.
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 06:33 PM (KdDCu)
But the Internet? No, not yet. And perhaps not ever.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at<<<
Utility companies work out fine. Yeah, works out fine for them - you pay or they cut it off.
Posted by: Snuffy Smith's lookin' fer Bob at December 14, 2017 06:33 PM (242F/)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2017 06:33 PM (tRaq7)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2017 06:33 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 06:07 PM (mpXpK)
That first part simply is not true! ISP's we're free to meter usage and provide tiers of bandwidth speeds. They we're not allowed to prioritize access to one service or protocol over another. Now they are.
I'm sorry for being an antagonist but many here fundamentally misunderstand the issue. It doesnt help that the main theme is Obama=BAD. That's no different that the other sid opposing everything because Trump.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:34 PM (63oy9)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:32 PM (MINbv)
the other guy charged less ?
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2017 06:34 PM (QC/4S)
An assertion without proof is just that.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:34 PM (MINbv)
Social Security is a welfare system too. Not only do people who pay in less get a better return than those who pay in more, but my SS check is being lowered $200 a month next year because I experienced a large capital gain last year. You know, those gains that come as a result of owning something for many years and happen once or twice in most lifetimes.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:34 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:34 PM (MINbv)
Whatever it means it's a hell of a lot better than "assgasm".
Phoning the Czar.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2017 06:35 PM (tRaq7)
PEOPLE CAN LIVE WITHOUT THE INTERNET.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:35 PM (mHQeW)
to meter usage and provide tiers of bandwidth speeds. They we're not
allowed to prioritize access to one service or protocol over another.
Now they are.
I'm sorry for being an antagonist but many here fundamentally
misunderstand the issue. It doesnt help that the main theme is
Obama=BAD. That's no different that the other sid opposing everything
because Trump.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:34 PM (63oy9)
You are flat out wrong. end of argument.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 06:35 PM (mpXpK)
And the reason for that is largely government regulations.
See where this is headed?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2017 06:35 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2017 06:31 PM (QC/4S)
I will admit that this may be a situation where, like the water main going into your house, a regulated monopoly may be in order.
But that's changing pretty fast, no?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 14, 2017 06:35 PM (ujg0T)
It has a ring to it. Maybe someone should start a mail in campaign of them to her office. All from a Chapaqua post office.
Posted by: Paladin at December 14, 2017 06:35 PM (mQB+h)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:34 PM (63oy9)
Democratic Socialists of America bad too.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM (3myMJ)
What a concept!
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:34 PM (MINbv)
i 'd be agreeing with you, any other day, but today the Disney Fox merger was announced, 40% in the hands of one company....I'm scared man !
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM (QC/4S)
Luxury - all we had was sock made from the skin leftover after our father ate the last of our feet, filled with our own dried tears and clotted blood.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet<<<
Son, look here - you get your shell and cut it down to the wad thin pour some dimes down the barrel.
Does the trick.
Posted by: Snuffy Smith's lookin' fer Bob at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM (242F/)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM (KP5rU)
I also have $5 that says they're all lesbian.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
Only $5? That's, like, a sure bet. I'd go all-in.
Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM (42M22)
Shhh. They'll twist themselves into knots trying to square that circle...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM (MINbv)
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You weren't here the day the Ace of Spades HQ blog went down for half a day.
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM (KdDCu)
Posted by: Hikaru at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM (yXU4O)
Or in a worst case block sites altogether based on their own political beliefs. Sites like this one.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:18 PM (63oy9)
Were ISPs doing that before 2015? If so, I missed it.
Posted by: rickl at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM (gbWkA)
And proceed to make money like crazy.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 14, 2017 06:37 PM (hcyUh)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 14, 2017 06:37 PM (KCxzN)
But that's changing pretty fast, no?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 14, 2017 06:35 PM (ujg0T)
i don't know...I just know that SDMA sux
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2017 06:37 PM (QC/4S)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:37 PM (3myMJ)
Yeah, I haven't really studied it, but that would be my main concern. What are the dangers of regulatory capture cooked into the proposal? Once the graft machine is in place, it will be impossible to get rid of. This is much more worrisome than if Comcast pulls some sleazy moves.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 14, 2017 06:37 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Bobby Cox, Mgr Atl Braves at December 14, 2017 06:37 PM (df+Zi)
Posted by: Jewells45can handle your jewels at December 14, 2017 06:37 PM (CNHr1)
I demand that romance novels feature men who look like George Costanza. Otherwise, sexist.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 14, 2017 06:37 PM (oVJmc)
major complaint I am hearing is that now ISP providers (the few we have) will be able to differentiate between types of data and jack up the prices based on content (bad). the good is that now we will be forced to concoct a new decentralized web.
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2017 06:29 PM (QC/4S)
I wrote the start of an article citing to the woes of gab.ai for which the theory is that decentralized internet will be the future of free speech on the internet.
Short of it is DNS via block chain or some other distributed framework, which dispenses with the need for centralized control of the internet, is essential to guarantee free speech.
The simple fact is there is no speech on the internet without DNS.
I thought about shopping it to ace.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 14, 2017 06:38 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 06:29 PM (mpXpK)
Social Security is a welfare system too. Not only do people who pay
in less get a better return than those who pay in more, but my SS check
is being lowered $200 a month next year because I experienced a large
capital gain last year. You know, those gains that come as a result of
owning something for many years and happen once or twice in most
lifetimes.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:34 PM (3myMJ)
Oh how I know that! thanks to changes made by the Democrats over the years I would have to live to be 109 years old to collect all the money I and my employers contributed over my lifetime. And that doesn't include interest or dividends I would have collected from that money.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 06:38 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2017 06:38 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:34 PM (63oy9) <<<
Not from around these parts are you stranger?
Posted by: Snuffy Smith's lookin' fer Bob at December 14, 2017 06:39 PM (242F/)
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM
To be fair, it was the shelf upon which the server sat on that 'went down'.
The blog was merely collateral damage.
Posted by: @JRandomMoron at December 14, 2017 06:39 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2017 06:35 PM (tRaq7)
Shaking hands with the Vicar?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 14, 2017 06:39 PM (hcyUh)
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That hasn't been my experience.
Posted by: Royer gen Cliffton-Gryms at December 14, 2017 06:39 PM (KdDCu)
The previous administration wanted all that free phone gig your getting and downloads to be controlled instead of the free for all to get the best price you can get and completion.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2017 06:40 PM (aC6Sd)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2017 06:40 PM (qJtVm)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:40 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:40 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 14, 2017 06:41 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2017 06:41 PM (gbWkA)
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Or in a worst case block sites altogether based on their own political beliefs. Sites like this one.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:18 PM (63oy9)
Were ISPs doing that before 2015? If so, I missed it.
Posted by: rickl at December 14, 2017 06:36 PM (sdi6R)
No, but conveniently google, facebook, and twitter have gone on a jihad against "fake news" using sites like politifact, IIRC, as a fact checking medium, after NN was safely in place.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 14, 2017 06:41 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:41 PM (mHQeW)
Yea but for different reasons. It's just not feasible to physically run multiple water pipes or power companies. But it also does stifle innovation.
The state of the art in moving water at the utility level hasn't really changed that much in what, 50 years? More.
Regulate where we have to but do not touch the internet. It isn't broken and it spins out more technology than people realize. Why would kill one of the biggest engines of our economy in the name of "fairness"?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2017 06:41 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 14, 2017 06:41 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 06:42 PM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Jewells45can handle your jewels at December 14, 2017 06:37 PM (CNHr1)
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Glad you like it Jewells!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2017 06:42 PM (Sfs6o)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:40 PM
Curate a set of 'The Best of BSG' posts?
Posted by: @JRandomMoron at December 14, 2017 06:42 PM (ctuyM)
Short of it is DNS via block chain or some other distributed framework, which dispenses with the need for centralized control of the internet, is essential to guarantee free speech.
The simple fact is there is no speech on the internet without DNS.
I thought about shopping it to ace.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 14, 2017 06:38 PM (Dp6qK)
Yes, he may like your input ...
(gab.ai has a few more problems than internet access - is their app still blocked by apple ?) I am all for decentralized, but not for wild wild west , where I have to write a special app to have one app talk to another app to talk to DNS
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2017 06:42 PM (QC/4S)
Honest to Christ, I'd rather spend time with you goys instead of anyone I work with.
Oh wait. That's what I do!
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:42 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2017 06:42 PM (aC6Sd)
This.
Look. I own nearly a couple of hundred acres in West By God Virginia. It's in the middle of nowhere. No, strike that - you have to pass nowhere to find it. Amazingly, I have 2 wired, 2 sat, and a wireless choice (plus DSL) for interwebz.
Where is this place that has only one?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:42 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: Marcy Kaptur at December 14, 2017 06:42 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:42 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: freaked at December 14, 2017 06:43 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 14, 2017 06:31 PM (mpXpK)
You are missing the point. *When* something gets taxed matters as much, if not more, than at what rate level. And of course, rate levels do matter, and have always varied:
--import duties (which have always varied by item)
--Periodic payroll income
--Investment proceeds
--End of year / period business income
--Assets upon death
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 14, 2017 06:43 PM (ujg0T)
btw, is BSG back yet?
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:43 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 14, 2017 06:19 PM (2DOZq)
See now that was funny. Touche. Yes I'm passionate about this and I've said my peace. This deserves legislation and I hope it can be addressed without the partisanship.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:43 PM (63oy9)
The only reason government touches anything
is to enhance itself.
Bob, hey Bob in NV I'm lookin fer you!
Posted by: Snuffy Smith's lookin' fer Bob at December 14, 2017 06:43 PM (242F/)
The deuce you say!
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:43 PM (MINbv)
Polticians on BOTH parties love this net neutrality and obamacare shit for one simple reason:
It empowers office-holders to sell (or lease, really) influence.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:45 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 14, 2017 06:46 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:42 PM
I prefer the earlier, and funnier Winona and Dutch insults BSG.
Posted by: @JRandomMoron at December 14, 2017 06:46 PM (ctuyM)
In other words, with Net Neutrality, now Joe Blow congressman has something, say, Comcast needs.
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:46 PM (mHQeW)
I loved the old modems that cradled your telephone handset. That was techy.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 14, 2017 06:47 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: Snuffy Smith's lookin' fer Bob at December 14, 2017 06:33 PM (242F/)
Unlike the Internet, there isn't more than one water main or power grid going into your house. Certain infrastructure does lend itself to the regulated monopoly model.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 14, 2017 06:47 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:47 PM (mHQeW)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2017 06:48 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 14, 2017 06:48 PM (WbIyz)
Why would kill one of the biggest engines of our economy in the name of "fairness"?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2017 06:41 PM (/tuJf)
It's what socialists do.
Posted by: rickl at December 14, 2017 06:49 PM (sdi6R)
red-lettered nood!
Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at December 14, 2017 06:49 PM (mHQeW)
(gab.ai has a few more problems than internet access - is their app still blocked by apple ?) I am all for decentralized, but not for wild wild west , where I have to write a special app to have one app talk to another app to talk to DNS
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2017 06:42 PM (QC/4S)
Most of these protocols are open internet standards that are voluntarily adhered to. And often the software is free. You don't have to write your own.
And if you could, you wouldn't worry about it. MS tried to swing its weight around, and it paid dearly for it in market share with its browser.
As Brian points out, packets is packets, which is true, to some extent. This myth of the internet (DNS connected) being a wild west is just that. You want wild west, go to the dark web.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 14, 2017 06:51 PM (Dp6qK)
Yea but for different reasons. It's just not feasible to physically run multiple water pipes or power companies. But it also does stifle innovation.
The state of the art in moving water at the utility level hasn't really changed that much in what, 50 years? More.
Regulate where we have to but do not touch the internet. It isn't broken and it spins out more technology than people realize. Why would kill one of the biggest engines of our economy in the name of "fairness"?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2017 06:41 PM (/tuJf)
No disagreement there, JackStraw. My point exactly.
At some point, we may reach the point where it becomes clear that cables are optimal, and like water mains, they will need utility like regulation. But we are not there yet.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 14, 2017 06:53 PM (ujg0T)
Just a small part.
But it's getting bigger.
Posted by: LGoPs at December 14, 2017 06:53 PM (53wvk)
Yet they all parrot the leftist narrative like complete automatons.
Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2017 06:22 PM (42M22)
It seems like only a few months ago commenters here were criticizing Obama for giving away US Govt control over the internet (even though that wasn't true either)....
Ok, now I'll stop.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:56 PM (63oy9)
Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2017 06:15 PM (42M22)
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Nelly just looks a bit melancholy. So Emily and Nelly definitely. And I'd go with Felicity in a pinch.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 14, 2017 07:01 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at December 14, 2017 07:02 PM (Tyii7)
Or in a worst case block sites altogether based on their own political beliefs. Sites like this one.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:18 PM (63oy9)
Were ISPs doing that before 2015? If so, I missed it
That's because it was the golden time before the election of Trump. With the new regime, net neutrality was the only thing preventing us from living the Handmaid's Tail.
Sheesh. Everybody knows this.
Posted by: Anachronda at December 14, 2017 07:11 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 14, 2017 06:34 PM (MINbv)
https://tinyurl.com/y9n2kzm9. (arstechnica)
The 2016 FCC report they link is no longer there and I'm not looking for it on my phone. I can attest to the data tho as a small business supporting hundreds of rural customers in S. LA. My customers are small businesses that stand to be hurt by this. Places that are only served by ISP's named Allen's TV Repair and Reserve Telephone Company.
For real now I'm turning this off and drinking some beer.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 07:12 PM (63oy9)
Do you know anything about a bomb threat?
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at December 14, 2017 06:19 PM (2DOZq)
See now that was funny. Touche. Yes I'm passionate about this and I've said my peace. This deserves legislation and I hope it can be addressed without the partisanship.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 06:43 PM (63oy9)
If you are passionate about it, please be passionate enough to simply read beyond all the lefty talking points, including court cases that said ISPs cannot be regulated under title II, including the reasons why we had a free and open, content-neutral, internet before the 2015 NN usurpation, including the criticisms of NN by leading technology policy pundits.
Because you really sound like you have done no homework other than listening to the nightly news by repeating the exact same polished soundbites that we have heard from them. Exactly.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 14, 2017 07:13 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 14, 2017 07:41 PM (63oy9)
Like Roy Moore, he found who he was looking for and married her. But, hey, a pedophile is a pedophile. Covene the hearing, Mitch.
Exit question: If Blumenthal and Moore are pedophiles, what is Mohammed?
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 14, 2017 08:56 PM (Ndje9)
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