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The Morning Rant: J.V. Edition
The only rule that we chimps agree on is the infield fly rule. Why do you people want more rules? Just throw poo at the cable company and get a satellite dish...that's what we did. My Life in a Post Net-Neutrality World
On Thursday, December 14th 2017, a day that will live in infamy, the FCC lead Net Neutrality up to the chopping block, and in one vote, swept its sweet head from its body. Our body. And now we are lost. Those damn service providers BLEW IT UP! YOU MANIACS! GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!
Don't worry, it's all tongue-in-cheek, and pretty well done. But I'll let Kurt Schlichter have the last word...
I don't worry about net neutrality because I already died when Trump pulled out of the Paris accords and because of tax reform.
— Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) December 15, 2017
3 Florida men charged in shark-dragging video I get the disgust for the behavior of these troglodytes, if in fact it is a real shark that was alive, but let us not lose sight of the pesky little fact that many of these over-the-top laws are simply an outgrowth of the progressive desire to stifle hunting, fishing, and any enjoyment of our natural resources other than by hipster douchebags who pack-out their feces, or at least claim to.... And how about a little perspective. It wasn't a child, it wasn't your grandmother. It was an animal.
Eric Hovland, the Florida Aquarium’s associate curator, said the video made his “stomach flip,” and he described it as “animal lynching.” “It’s flipping and tossing around,” Hovland said of the shark in the video. “It looks like it’s even been roped by the tail. I mean this just wasn’t hooked on a line and accidentally dragged. This was purposeful and tragic.”
$50 says this dude has a man-bun.
Most bizarre college courses 2017: 'Hooking up,' 'Queer Religion' and 'sexy' vampires
Brown University’s American Studies Department offers a course that uses specific objects “including sugar, milk, vibrators, and Spanx” as case studies “to critically consider how material culture informs and signals identity.”
Aside from the remote possibility that the instructor will teach xer students something about writing, what possible benefit does this class offer? It certainly doesn't teach anything other than how to sharpen one's victim status, it doesn't hone analytical skills because the analysis being taught is obviously biased, and there are no skills that can be transferred to employment. They should just cut to the chase and offer "Steamed Milk Design And Implementation Strategies For a Post-Manufacturing Economy."
Wednesday's Morning Rant got under the skin of a few commenters, a few of whom left mostly reasonable replies that are worth a read. I don't agree, but this is not an echo chamber.. And there are a few raving lunatics who extrapolated my words to wild and unsupportable conclusions. And there was one comment that was mostly reasonable, but then ended with this:
When I got out of the academy, Chicago PD started at about $28k/year (2001). But I did deploy in support of OEF, with the BSM and the TBI to prove it. Did I see you over there somewhere, CBD?
So, apparently, if I didn't serve in the military and wasn't deployed to a combat zone I have no right to criticize the current law enforcement quagmire that we are in. Got it. I'll remind you of that when you comment about something with which you have no direct experience. Or I could just tell you to stuff your credentialism up your ass.
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first!
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:14 AM (m7LQK)
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10 mins to Hannity bombshell
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:15 AM (m7LQK)
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Looks like a successful liftoff.
Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2017 11:15 AM (EGFUD)
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why can't we all just get along?
Posted by: Zombie Rodney King at December 15, 2017 11:15 AM (ZQfW9)
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You cannot do bad stuff to sharks, by definition. Sharks are awful and anything you do to them is perfectly acceptable.
I simply do not get the level of horrified screaming about Net Neutrality. This exceeds all reason and comprehension, people are freaking out like their hair caught fire and their crotch is full of bees. Even if the worst stuff they predict --sites charge for content, ISPs raise rates -- its still not worth the outrage and horror people are displaying. Its so completely disproportionate to their complaints.
The only conclusion I can draw is that they had very specific, clear plans on how to use Net Neutrality and those were just blocked for now.
I simply do not get the level of horrified screaming about Net Neutrality. This exceeds all reason and comprehension, people are freaking out like their hair caught fire and their crotch is full of bees. Even if the worst stuff they predict --sites charge for content, ISPs raise rates -- its still not worth the outrage and horror people are displaying. Its so completely disproportionate to their complaints.
The only conclusion I can draw is that they had very specific, clear plans on how to use Net Neutrality and those were just blocked for now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:16 AM (39g3+)
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So, apparently, if I didn't serve in the military and wasn't deployed to a combat zone I have no right to criticize the current law enforcement quagmire that we are in.
Very few of us have served in public office so we have no right to criticize politicians either.
Very few of us have served in public office so we have no right to criticize politicians either.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 11:17 AM (ul9CR)
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Donald Trump is the Great Filter, apparently.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 15, 2017 11:17 AM (KUaJL)
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Hannity didn't Tweet at all yesterday, which is not like him. Hmmm.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 11:18 AM (ul9CR)
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Hannity bombshell?Oh he must have groped someone.Who gives a fuck...
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 11:19 AM (LiyEm)
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I takes a depraved mind to torture a living creature and take pleasure in it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 15, 2017 11:19 AM (BoMuO)
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Or I should say he will be accused of groping somebody....
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 11:19 AM (LiyEm)
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I'll get the others.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 11:19 AM (ul9CR)
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You know how WIC and SNAP have requirements that the food have nutrition (I know, not perfect) in order for it to qualify for use of their funds?
Think the same should apply to government-backed college loans.
If you can't use WIC/SNAP to purchase oodles of candy and liquor, why can you use essentially government money to purchase courses that have no value, that rot your brain.
Think the same should apply to government-backed college loans.
If you can't use WIC/SNAP to purchase oodles of candy and liquor, why can you use essentially government money to purchase courses that have no value, that rot your brain.
Posted by: Carroll Dunham, Artiste at December 15, 2017 11:20 AM (W+vEI)
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I know it was mentioned in the comments a day ago about the Norks might try something during the Olympics, I mean they did try some crap when the South held the World Cup. If you haven't Watch NORTHERN LIMIT LINE about what happened.
I just read they might try and launch a missile Vertically rather than horizontally like they have been doing.
I just read they might try and launch a missile Vertically rather than horizontally like they have been doing.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:20 AM (dKiJG)
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Ugh, off icky Dunham sock!!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2017 11:20 AM (W+vEI)
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I served in the Military...that doesn't make me a friggin expert. ...well expert shooter maybe...but not expert commenter...
Posted by: USMC8541One Shot to Slay them all at December 15, 2017 11:21 AM (NmR1a)
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Hoo boy:
Crazy new Berkeley City Councilwoman is a Jew-hating lunatic, interrogates all her underlings if they are "Zionists," and if they even hesitate or say "I dunno," she fires them:
http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/12/14/ views-israel-determine-sit-berkeley-commissions-one-council-member-may-think/
Needless to say, anyone who says "Yes, I am a Zionist" is immediately fired as well. One guy -- a transportation commissioner -- is pretty sure she fired him because he merely had a Jewish-sounding name and sidestepped her "Do you support the illegal settler state of Israel?" question, because it had absolutely nothing to do with his job.
Meanwhile, this councilwoman's district in Berkeley is the town's most crime-ridden slum, and she skips or storms out of every meeting to address the issue, deeming the proceedings "racist."
Her campaign was funded by Students for Justice in Palestine and other anti-Israel groups, even though thee is no connection between her job description and international politics. She is so obsessed over hating Jews that she ran for the City Council in the first place because she had been fired from her previous job as an assistant to the previous Councilman due her relentless obsession with Jews and Israel -- so she decided to get revenge and steal his job away -- and succeeded, with funding from Arab groups -- even though she is black and her district is mostly black.
Wehn the local paper exposed all this, she wrote a "rebuttal" which said,
"This is one disgruntled guy, who disagrees with my position on Palestine. For this to be considered news worthy is another reflection of the ongoing suppression campaigns to smear anyone who supports Palestine. The campaign to silence support for Palestinian rights is how I came to be a councilmember in the first place."
Uh huh.
Meanwhile, her district is a cesspit and she does nothing to do address the issue.
Crazy new Berkeley City Councilwoman is a Jew-hating lunatic, interrogates all her underlings if they are "Zionists," and if they even hesitate or say "I dunno," she fires them:
http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/12/14/ views-israel-determine-sit-berkeley-commissions-one-council-member-may-think/
Needless to say, anyone who says "Yes, I am a Zionist" is immediately fired as well. One guy -- a transportation commissioner -- is pretty sure she fired him because he merely had a Jewish-sounding name and sidestepped her "Do you support the illegal settler state of Israel?" question, because it had absolutely nothing to do with his job.
Meanwhile, this councilwoman's district in Berkeley is the town's most crime-ridden slum, and she skips or storms out of every meeting to address the issue, deeming the proceedings "racist."
Her campaign was funded by Students for Justice in Palestine and other anti-Israel groups, even though thee is no connection between her job description and international politics. She is so obsessed over hating Jews that she ran for the City Council in the first place because she had been fired from her previous job as an assistant to the previous Councilman due her relentless obsession with Jews and Israel -- so she decided to get revenge and steal his job away -- and succeeded, with funding from Arab groups -- even though she is black and her district is mostly black.
Wehn the local paper exposed all this, she wrote a "rebuttal" which said,
"This is one disgruntled guy, who disagrees with my position on Palestine. For this to be considered news worthy is another reflection of the ongoing suppression campaigns to smear anyone who supports Palestine. The campaign to silence support for Palestinian rights is how I came to be a councilmember in the first place."
Uh huh.
Meanwhile, her district is a cesspit and she does nothing to do address the issue.
Posted by: zombie at December 15, 2017 11:21 AM (42M22)
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(Reposted from previous willowed thread.)
Posted by: zombie at December 15, 2017 11:21 AM (42M22)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 15, 2017 11:21 AM (6FqZa)
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Question: it's not yet 11:30 here but should I go for a drink anyhow? Margarita, Tequila Sunrise, Mojito or beer?
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (TisfY)
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The only conclusion I can draw is that they had very specific, clear plans on how to use Net Neutrality and those were just blocked for now."
Nah. You're giving them too much credit. 99.99 percent of the fainters can't even give you a working definition of the NN regs...
Nah. You're giving them too much credit. 99.99 percent of the fainters can't even give you a working definition of the NN regs...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (MINbv)
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I am already pre-ordering Joncelli's newest novel Sex-Bot Succubus. It will be far cheaper entertainment than attending a class on sexy vampires because there will be no sexy vampires in said course.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (wiubB)
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Hannity in 4....
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (m7LQK)
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Think the same should apply to government-backed college loans.
If you can't use WIC/SNAP to purchase oodles of candy and liquor, why can you use essentially government money to purchase courses that have no value, that rot your brain.
Posted by: Carroll Dunham, Artiste
But who will make those decisions?
Think the same should apply to government-backed college loans.
If you can't use WIC/SNAP to purchase oodles of candy and liquor, why can you use essentially government money to purchase courses that have no value, that rot your brain.
Posted by: Carroll Dunham, Artiste
But who will make those decisions?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (IqV8l)
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17 - Reading the comments, she apparently came in third in votes, but somehow won the seat?
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (7HtZB)
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What in the holy hell is a Spanx?
Posted by: Under Fire at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (r9UYA)
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13 You know how WIC and SNAP have requirements that the food have nutrition (I know, not perfect) in order for it to qualify for use of their funds?
Think the same should apply to government-backed college loans.
If you can't use WIC/SNAP to purchase oodles of candy and liquor, why can you use essentially government money to purchase courses that have no value, that rot your brain.
Posted by: Carroll Dunham, Artiste at December 15, 2017 11:20 AM (W+vEI)
I'd prefer that the government not be the arbiter of what courses are considered worthwhile and which ones aren't.
It'd be easier to mandate that universities need to cosign for student loans (or a percentage of random student loans that is equal across their departments). That way the college itself has the right incentive to figure out which courses actually give students increased earning potential.
Think the same should apply to government-backed college loans.
If you can't use WIC/SNAP to purchase oodles of candy and liquor, why can you use essentially government money to purchase courses that have no value, that rot your brain.
Posted by: Carroll Dunham, Artiste at December 15, 2017 11:20 AM (W+vEI)
I'd prefer that the government not be the arbiter of what courses are considered worthwhile and which ones aren't.
It'd be easier to mandate that universities need to cosign for student loans (or a percentage of random student loans that is equal across their departments). That way the college itself has the right incentive to figure out which courses actually give students increased earning potential.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 15, 2017 11:23 AM (KUaJL)
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7 Donald Trump is the Great Filter, apparently.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 15, 2017 11:17 AM (KUaJL)
So would an alien Donald Trump have a Golden Head Zybyzyx?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 15, 2017 11:17 AM (KUaJL)
So would an alien Donald Trump have a Golden Head Zybyzyx?
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 15, 2017 11:23 AM (RD7QR)
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26 What in the holy hell is a Spanx?
Posted by: Under Fire at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (r9UYA)
Butt shapers.
Posted by: Under Fire at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (r9UYA)
Butt shapers.
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (TisfY)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (so+oy)
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>>I simply do not get the level of horrified screaming about Net Neutrality.
It's group hysteria.
Same weird response they had to Trump being elected - girls shrieking "Today it became legal for women to be molested in the street! They're going to enslave us as baby-makers like 'Handmaid's Tale'!!!"
The question is: how do we stop this as it spins faster out of control, with them celebrating Flynn's plea deal like a pack of hyenas one day, and near-suicidal about net Neutrality the next?
It's group hysteria.
Same weird response they had to Trump being elected - girls shrieking "Today it became legal for women to be molested in the street! They're going to enslave us as baby-makers like 'Handmaid's Tale'!!!"
The question is: how do we stop this as it spins faster out of control, with them celebrating Flynn's plea deal like a pack of hyenas one day, and near-suicidal about net Neutrality the next?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (W+vEI)
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I quickly kill the animals I want to eat.
Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (gbWkA)
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The same people who are horrified at dragging a shark are perfectly okay with chopping up a fetus because it is horribly inconvenient.
I'm not defending the practice of dragging a shark but it isn't in the same universe of bad as slicing and dicing a baby for money and convenience.
I'm not defending the practice of dragging a shark but it isn't in the same universe of bad as slicing and dicing a baby for money and convenience.
Posted by: geoffb at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (zOpu5)
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25 17 - Reading the comments, she apparently came in third in votes, but somehow won the seat?
Posted by: josephistan
That's Berkeley for ya -- the insane "ranked choice" voting. The comment is worthy of reposting in full:
"In the November 2016 election, there were 7116 voters for district 2 Council seat. On the first round, Davila got 31%, incumbent Moore got 39.73%, and Armstrong-Temple got 29.27%. Because we have ranked choice voting, Ms. Davila ended up the third-round winner with 51% to Moore's 49%. In a traditional run-off election where there is more time and amplification of ideas, Ms. Davila's local political inexperience and extreme foreign policy views might have been more manifest and she may well have lost to Moore. Davila's performance on Council has been laughable. She is never prepared and does not seem to understand the rules or the subject at hand. I imagine that she never even watched or attended a Council meeting prior to her ascension. When all else fails, as it usually does, she plays the race card. Now I can see that we should expect the BDS card to be played as well."
Posted by: josephistan
That's Berkeley for ya -- the insane "ranked choice" voting. The comment is worthy of reposting in full:
"In the November 2016 election, there were 7116 voters for district 2 Council seat. On the first round, Davila got 31%, incumbent Moore got 39.73%, and Armstrong-Temple got 29.27%. Because we have ranked choice voting, Ms. Davila ended up the third-round winner with 51% to Moore's 49%. In a traditional run-off election where there is more time and amplification of ideas, Ms. Davila's local political inexperience and extreme foreign policy views might have been more manifest and she may well have lost to Moore. Davila's performance on Council has been laughable. She is never prepared and does not seem to understand the rules or the subject at hand. I imagine that she never even watched or attended a Council meeting prior to her ascension. When all else fails, as it usually does, she plays the race card. Now I can see that we should expect the BDS card to be played as well."
Posted by: zombie at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (42M22)
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26 What in the holy hell is a Spanx?
Posted by: Under Fire at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (r9UYA)
How Hillary defeats gravity
Posted by: Under Fire at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (r9UYA)
How Hillary defeats gravity
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (7HtZB)
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20 Question: it's not yet 11:30 here but should I go for a drink anyhow? Margarita, Tequila Sunrise, Mojito or beer?
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (TisfY)
Yes and yes.
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (TisfY)
Yes and yes.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (RD7QR)
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20 Question: it's not yet 11:30 here but should I go for a drink anyhow? Margarita, Tequila Sunrise, Mojito or beer?
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (TisfY)
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I suggest all of the above..but, you must review each drink. That way, it's not "drinking," rather, it's "research."
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (TisfY)
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I suggest all of the above..but, you must review each drink. That way, it's not "drinking," rather, it's "research."
Posted by: Blake at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (qC1Sy)
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Spanx is the evil offspring of Spandex and carbon fiber developed in order to constrain the physical dimensions of the morbidly outsized who wear blouses that proudly proclaim how 'FLAWLESS' they are.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (wiubB)
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Nah. You're giving them too much credit. 99.99 percent of the fainters can't even give you a working definition of the NN regs...
Oh sure, the majority of them are just freaking out because their commissars told them to and its a group hysteria thing. But the people behind them, they had plans.
Oh sure, the majority of them are just freaking out because their commissars told them to and its a group hysteria thing. But the people behind them, they had plans.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:25 AM (39g3+)
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A douche with a big mouth.
A douche. With a big mouth.
[Rips open envelope, blows it open, removes card]
"The introspective phrase CBD is searching for."
[McMahon: Haw-haw! Introspective!]
A douche. With a big mouth.
[Rips open envelope, blows it open, removes card]
"The introspective phrase CBD is searching for."
[McMahon: Haw-haw! Introspective!]
Posted by: Carnac The Magnificent at December 15, 2017 11:25 AM (u20ag)
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Net Neutrality caused my amazon order to double ship. #FreeStuff
Posted by: auscolpyr at December 15, 2017 11:25 AM (suO/a)
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22 I am already pre-ordering Joncelli's newest novel Sex-Bot Succubus. It will be far cheaper entertainment than attending a class on sexy vampires because there will be no sexy vampires in said course.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (wiubB)
It's about sex and rougue AI, but mostly sex! And did I mention sex? Buy one for your mom!
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (wiubB)
It's about sex and rougue AI, but mostly sex! And did I mention sex? Buy one for your mom!
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 15, 2017 11:25 AM (RD7QR)
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From the Red State link, Nobel Laureate Ariana Grande weighs in:
"If we lose #NetNeutality you can say goodbye to these jobs:
Youtuber
Streamer
Movie stars
Actors
Singers will lose alot of money"
Can someone help me? I'm not really seeing the downside here.
"If we lose #NetNeutality you can say goodbye to these jobs:
Youtuber
Streamer
Movie stars
Actors
Singers will lose alot of money"
Can someone help me? I'm not really seeing the downside here.
Posted by: Lena Dunham's Ex-Dog at December 15, 2017 11:25 AM (mgbY3)
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how do we stop this as it spins faster out of control"
We don't want to. Let it spin. Just stay out of the fragment zone, 'k?
We don't want to. Let it spin. Just stay out of the fragment zone, 'k?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 11:26 AM (MINbv)
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>>But who will make those decisions?
You would think there is enough available data for a cost-based analysis of school/degree vs. employability/income for 1-7 years after graduation.
Not that colleges want this analysis done...
You would think there is enough available data for a cost-based analysis of school/degree vs. employability/income for 1-7 years after graduation.
Not that colleges want this analysis done...
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2017 11:26 AM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Under Fire at December 15, 2017 11:26 AM (r9UYA)
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I served in the Navy.
The military, like all large groups, conforms to a bell curve. It contains smart people, average types, and outright idiots, too.
The military, like all large groups, conforms to a bell curve. It contains smart people, average types, and outright idiots, too.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2017 11:26 AM (gCJeK)
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And how about a little perspective. It wasn't a child, it wasn't your grandmother. It was an animal.
Hunter and Fisherfolk are pretty insistent on a clean kill to the extent that it's possible. We don't like animal suffering.
Sharks are about as simple as it gets in the animal world. We have spooks putting electronic stuff in their brains because it's easy to tell a shark brain to turn left, turn right, swim down a little.
Still, they're not on the order of bugs to be stepped on.
I know we anthropomorphize when we consider how much mercy we offer to which kind of animal and it's all quite subjective, but I am officially against shark torture.
Hunter and Fisherfolk are pretty insistent on a clean kill to the extent that it's possible. We don't like animal suffering.
Sharks are about as simple as it gets in the animal world. We have spooks putting electronic stuff in their brains because it's easy to tell a shark brain to turn left, turn right, swim down a little.
Still, they're not on the order of bugs to be stepped on.
I know we anthropomorphize when we consider how much mercy we offer to which kind of animal and it's all quite subjective, but I am officially against shark torture.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 11:26 AM (fuK7c)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:26 AM (wiubB)
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I had a satellite dish once about 17 years ago. Any decent rain or snow storm and the signal would go out. Any improvement made with respect to those conditions over the last 17 years?
Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2017 11:27 AM (gbWkA)
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20 Question: it's not yet 11:30 here but should I go for a drink anyhow? Margarita, Tequila Sunrise, Mojito or beer?
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (TisfY)
Moscow Mule, comrade.
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (TisfY)
Moscow Mule, comrade.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 15, 2017 11:27 AM (WDCYi)
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ROGUE AI. Maybe I should quit commenting and work at work.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 15, 2017 11:27 AM (RD7QR)
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*Facepalm
The invitation is the latest example to emerge of efforts to broker a meeting between the Kremlin and Trump Tower during the campaign. The timing of Goldstone's offer served as a reminder of the high-level contacts that Trump had in Russia as he ramped up his White House run.
British music promoter sends Trump's assistant an email asking if Trump can visit his Russian pop star client's father in Moscow as a birthday surprise. Maybe even meet Putin. Neither Trump nor the assistant responded to the email but to WaPo this is HIGH LEVEL RUSSIAN CONNECTIONS!!!
The invitation is the latest example to emerge of efforts to broker a meeting between the Kremlin and Trump Tower during the campaign. The timing of Goldstone's offer served as a reminder of the high-level contacts that Trump had in Russia as he ramped up his White House run.
British music promoter sends Trump's assistant an email asking if Trump can visit his Russian pop star client's father in Moscow as a birthday surprise. Maybe even meet Putin. Neither Trump nor the assistant responded to the email but to WaPo this is HIGH LEVEL RUSSIAN CONNECTIONS!!!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 15, 2017 11:27 AM (BoMuO)
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Off to get Her Majesty's car cleaned and the interior detailed. The shocks and springs will groan with relief as the dog hair is vacuumed out.
Off to get Her Majesty's car cleaned and the interior detailed. The shocks and springs will groan with relief as the dog hair is vacuumed out.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2017 11:27 AM (blaen)
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"Spanx is the evil offspring of Spandex and carbon fiber "
Someone really needs to develop a remote-reading pressure gauge for that stuff, so it can be monitored to ensure that failure due to overpressure doesn't pose a public safety hazard.
Someone really needs to develop a remote-reading pressure gauge for that stuff, so it can be monitored to ensure that failure due to overpressure doesn't pose a public safety hazard.
Posted by: Lena Dunham's Ex-Dog at December 15, 2017 11:27 AM (mgbY3)
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$53,418 to attend Brown this year.
Posted by: tu3031 at December 15, 2017 11:28 AM (O5Q3r)
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$50 says this dude has a man-bun.
.............
keeps the hair out of his sushi and shark fin soup
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keeps the hair out of his sushi and shark fin soup
Posted by: wth at December 15, 2017 11:28 AM (HgMAr)
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Wednesday's Morning Rant got under the skin of a few commenters, a few of whom left mostly reasonable replies that are worth a read. I don't agree, but this is not an echo chamber.. And there are a few raving lunatics who extrapolated my words to wild and unsupportable conclusions. And there was one comment that was mostly reasonable, but then ended with this:
When I got out of the academy, Chicago PD started at about $28k/year (2001). But I did deploy in support of OEF, with the BSM and the TBI to prove it. Did I see you over there somewhere, CBD?
So, apparently, if I didn't serve in the military and wasn't deployed to a combat zone I have no right to criticize the current law enforcement quagmire that we are in.
Sorry. When I'm forced to pay for something, you can bet your ass I'll criticize the hell out of it.
When I got out of the academy, Chicago PD started at about $28k/year (2001). But I did deploy in support of OEF, with the BSM and the TBI to prove it. Did I see you over there somewhere, CBD?
So, apparently, if I didn't serve in the military and wasn't deployed to a combat zone I have no right to criticize the current law enforcement quagmire that we are in.
Sorry. When I'm forced to pay for something, you can bet your ass I'll criticize the hell out of it.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 11:28 AM (GjTLE)
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Davila's performance on Council has been laughable. She is never prepared and does not seem to understand the rules or the subject at hand.
White man's rules.
Davila's performance on Council has been laughable. She is never prepared and does not seem to understand the rules or the subject at hand.
White man's rules.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2017 11:28 AM (IqV8l)
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Maybe I should go pool side to suss out which Latinas need spanx and which ones do not.
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 15, 2017 11:28 AM (TisfY)
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34 25 17 - Reading the comments, she apparently came in third in votes, but somehow won the seat?
Posted by: josephistan
That's Berkeley for ya -- the insane "ranked choice" voting. The comment is worthy of reposting in full:
"In the November 2016 election, there were 7116 voters for district 2 Council seat. On the first round, Davila got 31%, incumbent Moore got 39.73%, and Armstrong-Temple got 29.27%. Because we have ranked choice voting, Ms. Davila ended up the third-round winner with 51% to Moore's 49%. In a traditional run-off election where there is more time and amplification of ideas, Ms. Davila's local political inexperience and extreme foreign policy views might have been more manifest and she may well have lost to Moore. Davila's performance on Council has been laughable. She is never prepared and does not seem to understand the rules or the subject at hand. I imagine that she never even watched or attended a Council meeting prior to her ascension. When all else fails, as it usually does, she plays the race card. Now I can see that we should expect the BDS card to be played as well."
Posted by: zombie at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (42M22)
I was shocked that only one poster - who had Yemen as his avatar - was supporting her.
Posted by: josephistan
That's Berkeley for ya -- the insane "ranked choice" voting. The comment is worthy of reposting in full:
"In the November 2016 election, there were 7116 voters for district 2 Council seat. On the first round, Davila got 31%, incumbent Moore got 39.73%, and Armstrong-Temple got 29.27%. Because we have ranked choice voting, Ms. Davila ended up the third-round winner with 51% to Moore's 49%. In a traditional run-off election where there is more time and amplification of ideas, Ms. Davila's local political inexperience and extreme foreign policy views might have been more manifest and she may well have lost to Moore. Davila's performance on Council has been laughable. She is never prepared and does not seem to understand the rules or the subject at hand. I imagine that she never even watched or attended a Council meeting prior to her ascension. When all else fails, as it usually does, she plays the race card. Now I can see that we should expect the BDS card to be played as well."
Posted by: zombie at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (42M22)
I was shocked that only one poster - who had Yemen as his avatar - was supporting her.
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 11:28 AM (7HtZB)
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The only conclusion I can draw is that they had very specific, clear plans on how to use Net Neutrality and those were just blocked for now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:16 AM (39g3+)
Precisely.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:16 AM (39g3+)
Precisely.
Posted by: pandelume at December 15, 2017 11:28 AM (oeLWp)
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Any improvement made with respect to those conditions over the last 17 years?
Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2017 11:27 AM (gbWkA)
Internet streaming.
Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2017 11:27 AM (gbWkA)
Internet streaming.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 15, 2017 11:28 AM (BoMuO)
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Big Shoe: Special on Hannity coffee mugs!
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 11:28 AM (3myMJ)
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but what are your qualifications?
Posted by: Bored383 at December 15, 2017 11:28 AM (70HTk)
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I simply do not get the level of horrified screaming about Net Neutrality.
________
So much of this really is coordinated AstroTurf.
Before it became a political hot potato, I could see the merit of a policy like net neutrality, but the fact that Soros and the usual cast are so hell bent on it tells me they probably have far more sinister plans.
So I support getting rid of NN and it might be a check to the internet monopolies since its clear the UniParty has no interest in busting them up.
Still, I can't say I'm much of a fan of the cable/internet service providers either, but at least they don't engage in social marxism every single day.
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So much of this really is coordinated AstroTurf.
Before it became a political hot potato, I could see the merit of a policy like net neutrality, but the fact that Soros and the usual cast are so hell bent on it tells me they probably have far more sinister plans.
So I support getting rid of NN and it might be a check to the internet monopolies since its clear the UniParty has no interest in busting them up.
Still, I can't say I'm much of a fan of the cable/internet service providers either, but at least they don't engage in social marxism every single day.
Posted by: Maritime at December 15, 2017 11:28 AM (lKmt3)
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I had a satellite dish once about 17 years ago. Any decent rain or snow storm and the signal would go out. Any improvement made with respect to those conditions over the last 17 years?
Posted by: Archer
No
I had a satellite dish once about 17 years ago. Any decent rain or snow storm and the signal would go out. Any improvement made with respect to those conditions over the last 17 years?
Posted by: Archer
No
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2017 11:29 AM (IqV8l)
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I am already pre-ordering Joncelli's newest novel Sex-Bot Succubus.
It will be far cheaper entertainment than attending a class on sexy
vampires because there will be no sexy vampires in said course.
I'll wait for the movie. Should be a fun one. Think it'll be rated PG?
It will be far cheaper entertainment than attending a class on sexy
vampires because there will be no sexy vampires in said course.
I'll wait for the movie. Should be a fun one. Think it'll be rated PG?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 15, 2017 11:29 AM (IcT7t)
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Very few of us have served in public office so we have no right to criticize politicians either.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 11:17 AM (ul9CR)
Not born the glorious creature that is woman? THEN YOU CANNOT CRITICIZE WOMEN EVARR, YOU MISOGYNIST PIG!
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 11:17 AM (ul9CR)
Not born the glorious creature that is woman? THEN YOU CANNOT CRITICIZE WOMEN EVARR, YOU MISOGYNIST PIG!
Posted by: All SJW Feminazis at December 15, 2017 11:29 AM (hvf9s)
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One thing is certain. If you are not a scientist, you can not criticize scientists because you don't know what they know. They are experts in their field, and have had to study many years to learn the things they know.
Like Medical Doctors. If you are not a medical doctor you can't comment on medical issues.
Or lawyers, auto mechanics, or farmers. If you have not walked a mile in their shoes, you are unworthy, and probably ignorant.
A great philosopher once said, "Know your place, and stay there."
Like Medical Doctors. If you are not a medical doctor you can't comment on medical issues.
Or lawyers, auto mechanics, or farmers. If you have not walked a mile in their shoes, you are unworthy, and probably ignorant.
A great philosopher once said, "Know your place, and stay there."
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 11:29 AM (KdDCu)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:29 AM (wiubB)
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30 You get high-speed internet through a satellite dish?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (so+oy)
No, you get painfully arthritic internet through a satellite dish. But if you're out in the sticks it's the only game in town.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (so+oy)
No, you get painfully arthritic internet through a satellite dish. But if you're out in the sticks it's the only game in town.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 15, 2017 11:30 AM (RD7QR)
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51 20 Question: it's not yet 11:30 here but should I go for a drink anyhow? Margarita, Tequila Sunrise, Mojito or beer?
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (TisfY)
Moscow Mule, comrade.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 15, 2017 11:27 AM (WDCYi)
Bloody mary is a good morning drink. Or you can Irish up a coffee if it's cold outside.
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (TisfY)
Moscow Mule, comrade.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 15, 2017 11:27 AM (WDCYi)
Bloody mary is a good morning drink. Or you can Irish up a coffee if it's cold outside.
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 11:30 AM (7HtZB)
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I am officially against shark torture.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 11:26 AM (fuK7c)
As am I, but the histrionics seem misplaced in comparison to the shocking things that people do to other people all the time.
A felony? When assaults causing injury are routinely pleaded down to misdemeanors?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 11:26 AM (fuK7c)
As am I, but the histrionics seem misplaced in comparison to the shocking things that people do to other people all the time.
A felony? When assaults causing injury are routinely pleaded down to misdemeanors?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 11:30 AM (wYseH)
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Not born the glorious creature that is woman? THEN YOU CANNOT CRITICIZE WOMEN EVARR, YOU MISOGYNIST PIG!
Posted by: All SJW Feminazis at December 15, 2017 11:29 AM (hvf9s)
Say that again to my face, TERF.
Posted by: All SJW Feminazis at December 15, 2017 11:29 AM (hvf9s)
Say that again to my face, TERF.
Posted by: Intersectional SJW Feminists at December 15, 2017 11:30 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 11:31 AM (GjTLE)
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The only conclusion I can draw is that they had very specific, clear plans on how to use Net Neutrality and those were just blocked for now.
It rhymes with Fat Crudge.
It rhymes with Fat Crudge.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2017 11:31 AM (B+qrE)
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43 From the Red State link, Nobel Laureate Ariana Grande weighs in:
"If we lose #NetNeutality you can say goodbye to these jobs:
Youtuber
Streamer
Movie stars
Actors
Singers will lose alot of money"
Can someone help me? I'm not really seeing the downside here.
Posted by: Lena Dunham's Ex-Dog at December 15, 2017 11:25 AM (mgbY3)
Good. Now their dumb asses are going to have to learn Math.
"If we lose #NetNeutality you can say goodbye to these jobs:
Youtuber
Streamer
Movie stars
Actors
Singers will lose alot of money"
Can someone help me? I'm not really seeing the downside here.
Posted by: Lena Dunham's Ex-Dog at December 15, 2017 11:25 AM (mgbY3)
Good. Now their dumb asses are going to have to learn Math.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 15, 2017 11:31 AM (WDCYi)
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2017 11:32 AM (MIKMs)
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The old swimming pool sized C-band satellite dishes are pretty unphased by things like rain and snow. When they went to the smaller footprint Ku-band dishes is when the problems arose.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:32 AM (wiubB)
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>>I'm not defending the practice of dragging a shark but it isn't in the
same universe of bad as slicing and dicing a baby for money and
convenience.
Certainly. To me it seems that cruelty to animals is a step in a direction that could put one down a bad path. Sorta like how serial killers start with torturing animals, or how people start with supporting abortion, which leads them to them support letting sick newborns die (Groningen protocol), let seniors die (Liverpool Care Pathway), and so on. That's my gut reaction to stuff like the shark video.
same universe of bad as slicing and dicing a baby for money and
convenience.
Certainly. To me it seems that cruelty to animals is a step in a direction that could put one down a bad path. Sorta like how serial killers start with torturing animals, or how people start with supporting abortion, which leads them to them support letting sick newborns die (Groningen protocol), let seniors die (Liverpool Care Pathway), and so on. That's my gut reaction to stuff like the shark video.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2017 11:32 AM (W+vEI)
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39,
"Because their commissars told them to and its a group hysteria thing. But the people behind them, they had plans."
It's the Democrat-Way, all up and down the Party continuum. Former Rep. Conyers explained it when asked about reading bills. He said he doesn't have to he just has to know how to vote, which the leaders will tell him.
"Because their commissars told them to and its a group hysteria thing. But the people behind them, they had plans."
It's the Democrat-Way, all up and down the Party continuum. Former Rep. Conyers explained it when asked about reading bills. He said he doesn't have to he just has to know how to vote, which the leaders will tell him.
Posted by: geoffb at December 15, 2017 11:32 AM (zOpu5)
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What's a girdle?
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 11:32 AM (EzdLW)
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But the people behind them, they had plans."
Sort of. The "plan" was to get some level of control, then see what could be done under the guise of "fairness" and "equality".
The FCC then found out that regs which fit the single utility model had about as much application as fingernail polish does to recipes.
Wanna have some fun? Ask the next nutrella dimwit to list any actual accomplishments of the regulation itself.
Most will shout "free stuff", a few will try to impress with how much they know about the intertubez, and the rest will shout "rayciss".
That's it. They got nuthin.
Sort of. The "plan" was to get some level of control, then see what could be done under the guise of "fairness" and "equality".
The FCC then found out that regs which fit the single utility model had about as much application as fingernail polish does to recipes.
Wanna have some fun? Ask the next nutrella dimwit to list any actual accomplishments of the regulation itself.
Most will shout "free stuff", a few will try to impress with how much they know about the intertubez, and the rest will shout "rayciss".
That's it. They got nuthin.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 11:32 AM (MINbv)
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Still, they're not on the order of bugs to be stepped on.
No, they're like gigantic, evil bugs with no positive contribution to the world.
The best analysis of Net NEutrality I saw went like this:
NN benefited gigantic internet powers like Google, Amazon, and Netflix.
Removing NN benefits Internet Service Providers.
Both ways give someone a benefit, but at least the free market and consumer accountability are part of the latter. Giving the government the power to choose winners and losers on the internet and control it is always, always bad.
No, they're like gigantic, evil bugs with no positive contribution to the world.
The best analysis of Net NEutrality I saw went like this:
NN benefited gigantic internet powers like Google, Amazon, and Netflix.
Removing NN benefits Internet Service Providers.
Both ways give someone a benefit, but at least the free market and consumer accountability are part of the latter. Giving the government the power to choose winners and losers on the internet and control it is always, always bad.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:32 AM (39g3+)
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Hannity Bombshell? Crickets.....what a bust
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:33 AM (m7LQK)
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Welcome to Day Nine of 'Minnesota Senate Seat Held Hostage Watch'.
It's December 15, 2017 and Al Franken is still a Senator.
It's December 15, 2017 and Al Franken is still a Senator.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 11:33 AM (3myMJ)
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If we lose #NetNeutality you can say goodbye to these jobs:
Youtuber
Streamer
Movie stars
Actors
Singers will lose alot of money
Go lick a donut, Ariana. It's your only skill.
Youtuber
Streamer
Movie stars
Actors
Singers will lose alot of money
Go lick a donut, Ariana. It's your only skill.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2017 11:33 AM (CClpm)
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Okay, I admit it, have no idea of the significance of Net Neutrality, and thus the sturm und drang over the whole issue...
Posted by: kraken at December 15, 2017 11:33 AM (zSVEm)
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That article was hilarious. Saw several FB posts about the end of net neutrality posted by stupid libs of course and I just want to scream at them. Jesus.. why am I friends with people this stupid?
Posted by: Jewells45 canhandleyourjewels at December 15, 2017 11:34 AM (zRZaJ)
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$50 says this dude has a man-bun.
If you give me good enough odds, I might take that bet. Say, 200:1.
I'd risk a quarter for $50.
If you give me good enough odds, I might take that bet. Say, 200:1.
I'd risk a quarter for $50.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 15, 2017 11:34 AM (0ogQG)
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Laugh it up, hairballs. Sometime soon you'll want to go in the water. When you hear that deep two-tone sound --- yeah, it's me.
Posted by: Shark at December 15, 2017 11:34 AM (wW03z)
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If those shark torturers were illegal aliens, the could shoot a citizen in the head and gotten off. But a shark? That is a bridge too far.
Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2017 11:34 AM (gbWkA)
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Lisa Bloom offering $750K to women to come forward against Trump breaking on Drudge....is that Hannity's Shoe drop?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (m7LQK)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (wiubB)
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85 Still, they're not on the order of bugs to be stepped on.
No, they're like gigantic, evil bugs with no positive contribution to the world.
The best analysis of Net NEutrality I saw went like this:
NN benefited gigantic internet powers like Google, Amazon, and Netflix.
Removing NN benefits Internet Service Providers.
Both ways give someone a benefit, but at least the free market and consumer accountability are part of the latter. Giving the government the power to choose winners and losers on the internet and control it is always, always bad.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:32 AM (39g3+)
Mostly, young people are just pissed (but won't admit it) that this is likely the end of cheap/free video streaming.
No, they're like gigantic, evil bugs with no positive contribution to the world.
The best analysis of Net NEutrality I saw went like this:
NN benefited gigantic internet powers like Google, Amazon, and Netflix.
Removing NN benefits Internet Service Providers.
Both ways give someone a benefit, but at least the free market and consumer accountability are part of the latter. Giving the government the power to choose winners and losers on the internet and control it is always, always bad.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:32 AM (39g3+)
Mostly, young people are just pissed (but won't admit it) that this is likely the end of cheap/free video streaming.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (WDCYi)
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Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
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When they went to the smaller footprint Ku-band dishes is when the problems arose
Yeah we used to use a dish for TV and it got lots of channels and such but... outages from wind and rain and snow were annoying. Those little ones just aren't very reliable, no matter how hard you tie them down. Even branches waving in the wind interfered.
Yeah we used to use a dish for TV and it got lots of channels and such but... outages from wind and rain and snow were annoying. Those little ones just aren't very reliable, no matter how hard you tie them down. Even branches waving in the wind interfered.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (39g3+)
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Combat theater veteran service is not a mere credential, but the point is well-taken, even if it wasn't well-delivered.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (Dp6qK)
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"If we lose #NetNeutality you can say goodbye to these jobs:"
I thought the deed was done. Voted and passed. What's this "if" business?
I thought the deed was done. Voted and passed. What's this "if" business?
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (3myMJ)
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No, they're like gigantic, evil bugs with no positive contribution to the world.
You, sir, are clearly not a Cape Cod surf fisherman. Sharks eat seals. Seals are awful. We need moar sharks.
You, sir, are clearly not a Cape Cod surf fisherman. Sharks eat seals. Seals are awful. We need moar sharks.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (fuK7c)
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The only conclusion I can draw is that they had very specific, clear plans on how to use Net Neutrality and those were just blocked for now.
_____________
What was the end game with that? I have some guesses, but I honestly can't figure it out. I know good and well this level of outrage is not because a cable provider might charge a few more dollars for heavy streaming use.
They really had something in mind where they were going to stamp out any political movement brewing online.
_____________
What was the end game with that? I have some guesses, but I honestly can't figure it out. I know good and well this level of outrage is not because a cable provider might charge a few more dollars for heavy streaming use.
They really had something in mind where they were going to stamp out any political movement brewing online.
Posted by: Maritime at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (lKmt3)
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I am already pre-ordering Joncelli's newest novel Sex-Bot Succubus.
I better at least get a damn review copy.
I better at least get a damn review copy.
Posted by: ScoggDog at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (ACKQ3)
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The guys who torture a shark like that likely do not have an algorithm that tells them not to do it to higher-order life forms.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (dZ756)
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94
Lisa Bloom offering $750K to women to come forward against Trump breaking on Drudge....is that Hannity's Shoe drop?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (m7LQK)
The Trump Bounty.... no, nothing suspect there.
Lisa Bloom offering $750K to women to come forward against Trump breaking on Drudge....is that Hannity's Shoe drop?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (m7LQK)
The Trump Bounty.... no, nothing suspect there.
Posted by: kraken at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (zSVEm)
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Lisa Bloom offering $750K to women to come forward against Trump breaking on Drudge
So...
Was this before, during, or after Ficus Weinstein's....ummm...issues?
So...
Was this before, during, or after Ficus Weinstein's....ummm...issues?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (Boy/L)
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Lisa Bloom offering $750K to women to come forward against Trump breaking on Drudge....is that Hannity's Shoe drop?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (m7LQK)
750K? Shit did I ever tell you about the time PDT tried to have a homo relationship with me?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (m7LQK)
750K? Shit did I ever tell you about the time PDT tried to have a homo relationship with me?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (5y11N)
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Lisa "Blooming" Simpson?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:37 AM (wiubB)
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Mostly, young people are just pissed (but won't admit it) that this is likely the end of cheap/free video streaming."
Really? 'Cause there wasn't any such thing in 2015?
*sigh*
Really? 'Cause there wasn't any such thing in 2015?
*sigh*
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 11:37 AM (MINbv)
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Candy-gram! - Land Shark
Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2017 11:37 AM (gbWkA)
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You, sir, are clearly not a Cape Cod surf fisherman. Sharks eat seals. Seals are awful. We need moar sharks.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Agreed.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Agreed.
Posted by: Fish at December 15, 2017 11:37 AM (wW03z)
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97 Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
I am so sick of people like that City Council scrunt always whining that stuff like that is rayciss.
It's because of assholes like her that I can't go anywhere without having an employee constantly following me around and asking every 30 seconds what I'm up to.
And even though I'm not a thief, I still agree that I deserve that treatment, because of assholes like her.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
I am so sick of people like that City Council scrunt always whining that stuff like that is rayciss.
It's because of assholes like her that I can't go anywhere without having an employee constantly following me around and asking every 30 seconds what I'm up to.
And even though I'm not a thief, I still agree that I deserve that treatment, because of assholes like her.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 15, 2017 11:37 AM (WDCYi)
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You challenged cops to be actual tough guys by fighting in Afghanistan. I think the point of that particular response was that a lot of cops ARE those guys, as well. Certainly, in the National Guard, many of my combat-vet comrades are now police officers.
Yes, there is police brutality. Walter Scott, Tamir Rice and Daniel Shaver are good examples of such. Yes, there are cops who enable it with their silence. But to go after cops as a whole like the Wednesday rant did was as bizarre as anything that comes out of BLM circles, and commenters were right to call you on it.
Yes, there is police brutality. Walter Scott, Tamir Rice and Daniel Shaver are good examples of such. Yes, there are cops who enable it with their silence. But to go after cops as a whole like the Wednesday rant did was as bizarre as anything that comes out of BLM circles, and commenters were right to call you on it.
Posted by: CPT11A at December 15, 2017 11:38 AM (34byJ)
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What's a girdle?
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 11:32 AM (EzdLW)
...........
You wear it under your Mao jacket. Mine's bullet proof and has a come-along for fastening.
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 11:32 AM (EzdLW)
...........
You wear it under your Mao jacket. Mine's bullet proof and has a come-along for fastening.
Posted by: H!llary! at December 15, 2017 11:38 AM (HgMAr)
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Shit,Iwill come forward and say Trump grooed me for $750 k ,do I need any proof?
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 11:38 AM (LiyEm)
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Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Every damn day I think they cannot dig deeper. Every damn day I am wrong.
Every damn day I think they cannot dig deeper. Every damn day I am wrong.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2017 11:38 AM (B+qrE)
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>>> Hannity Bombshell? Crickets.....what a bust
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:33 AM (m7LQK)
Where are you looking at to find the Hannity bombshell? Is there a countdown clock to go along with releasing a story? Or did he announce a time to release info?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:33 AM (m7LQK)
Where are you looking at to find the Hannity bombshell? Is there a countdown clock to go along with releasing a story? Or did he announce a time to release info?
Posted by: LizLem at December 15, 2017 11:38 AM (hvf9s)
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104 The guys who torture a shark like that likely do not have an algorithm that tells them not to do it to higher-order life forms.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (dZ756)
Yeah. There's just no call for it and it has nothing to do with hunting or fishing. Kill it as quickly as possible or don't touch it.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (dZ756)
Yeah. There's just no call for it and it has nothing to do with hunting or fishing. Kill it as quickly as possible or don't touch it.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 15, 2017 11:38 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:38 AM (wiubB)
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97 Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
Inner city gotta inner city. Might as well not lock the doors and get the 7734 out of there.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
Inner city gotta inner city. Might as well not lock the doors and get the 7734 out of there.
Posted by: auscolpyr at December 15, 2017 11:38 AM (suO/a)
121
Yeah we used to use a dish for TV and it got lots of channels and such
but... outages from wind and rain and snow were annoying. Those little
ones just aren't very reliable, no matter how hard you tie them down.
Even branches waving in the wind interfered.
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Only have an antenna here and now it is intermittent as well.
but... outages from wind and rain and snow were annoying. Those little
ones just aren't very reliable, no matter how hard you tie them down.
Even branches waving in the wind interfered.
=====
Only have an antenna here and now it is intermittent as well.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (MIKMs)
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They really had something in mind where they were going to stamp out any political movement brewing online. "
Let's not forget - the rule wasn't released to the public until AFTER the FCC commishes voted FOR it, either...
Let's not forget - the rule wasn't released to the public until AFTER the FCC commishes voted FOR it, either...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (MINbv)
123
I just got a $1500 car repair bill. Who can I accuse of sexing at me? $$$
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (eO5CB)
124
100 "If we lose #NetNeutality you can say goodbye to these jobs:"
I thought the deed was done. Voted and passed. What's this "if" business?
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (3myMJ)
Cue the Hawaiian Judge in 3..2..
I thought the deed was done. Voted and passed. What's this "if" business?
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (3myMJ)
Cue the Hawaiian Judge in 3..2..
Posted by: Hawkpilot at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (p6e8W)
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I served in the military (bubbleheads unite!), even briefly in the base police (although only as a dispatcher), so I might be qualified to comment?
That shooting was murder. I might be willing to go down to voluntary manslaughter but nothing less than that.
Go, punk monkey, go!
That shooting was murder. I might be willing to go down to voluntary manslaughter but nothing less than that.
Go, punk monkey, go!
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (Vzqe+)
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Mostly, young people are just pissed (but won't admit it) that this is likely the end of cheap/free video streaming.
Posted by: Hikaru
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I don't know that I really buy into that, there's still a lot of competition.
And the phone carriers started out like that with many basically ending up with "unlimited" plans or plans that 99.9% of consumers have no problem with.
And even home internet plans will throttle you after a certain point, even under NN rules.
Posted by: Hikaru
_________
I don't know that I really buy into that, there's still a lot of competition.
And the phone carriers started out like that with many basically ending up with "unlimited" plans or plans that 99.9% of consumers have no problem with.
And even home internet plans will throttle you after a certain point, even under NN rules.
Posted by: Maritime at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (lKmt3)
127
Mostly, young people are just pissed (but won't admit it) that this is likely the end of cheap/free video streaming.
No, it is not. COMPETITION, DILLHOLES.
No, it is not. COMPETITION, DILLHOLES.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (tVWQB)
129
>>Lisa Bloom offering $750K to women to come forward against Trump breaking on Drudge....is that Hannity's Shoe drop?
Ha! I guessed it was the video O'Reilly has been talking about that shows someone offering a woman $200K to accuse Trump of sexual assault!
Ha! I guessed it was the video O'Reilly has been talking about that shows someone offering a woman $200K to accuse Trump of sexual assault!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (W+vEI)
130
>>> Candy-gram! - Land Shark
Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2017 11:37 AM (gbWkA)
Oooh, I love candy!
*opens door*
*eated by shark*
Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2017 11:37 AM (gbWkA)
Oooh, I love candy!
*opens door*
*eated by shark*
Posted by: LizLem at December 15, 2017 11:40 AM (hvf9s)
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Big Shoe: Hannity hired the guy that predicts big things at WND!
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 11:40 AM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2017 11:40 AM (gbWkA)
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What was the end game with that? I have some guesses, but I honestly can't figure it out.
Yeah I am not sure either. My suspicion is that it had something to do with hate speech and silencing non-leftist voices, but who knows?
Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Did it actually pass? I know some demented leftist woman was trying to get it done because racism but it was still being discussed last I heard.
Yeah I am not sure either. My suspicion is that it had something to do with hate speech and silencing non-leftist voices, but who knows?
Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Did it actually pass? I know some demented leftist woman was trying to get it done because racism but it was still being discussed last I heard.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:40 AM (39g3+)
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I just got a $1500 car repair bill. Who can I accuse of sexing at me? $$$
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (eO5CB)
My daughter who got into an accident last week ( no one hurt) got a notice from her insurance carrier the bill to them will be over 6,000. Sorry to anyone else who has USAA, I guess out rebates will be lower next year?
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (eO5CB)
My daughter who got into an accident last week ( no one hurt) got a notice from her insurance carrier the bill to them will be over 6,000. Sorry to anyone else who has USAA, I guess out rebates will be lower next year?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (5y11N)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (gCJeK)
136
>>Lisa Bloom offering $750K to women to come forward against Trump breaking on Drudge....is that Hannity's Shoe drop?
Seeing as how Hannity has been Trump's biggest media supporter since Day 1 and he has had John Solomon on his show constantly about various topics, wouldn't surprise me.
Seeing as how Hannity has been Trump's biggest media supporter since Day 1 and he has had John Solomon on his show constantly about various topics, wouldn't surprise me.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (/tuJf)
137
"But to go after cops as a whole like the Wednesday
rant did was as bizarre as anything that comes out of BLM circles..."
Posted by: CPT11A at December 15, 2017 11:38 AM (34byJ)
I stand by my statements, in particular the blanket criticism of otherwise good cops who respect the "thin blue line," thereby perpetuating the crisis we have in America.
rant did was as bizarre as anything that comes out of BLM circles..."
Posted by: CPT11A at December 15, 2017 11:38 AM (34byJ)
I stand by my statements, in particular the blanket criticism of otherwise good cops who respect the "thin blue line," thereby perpetuating the crisis we have in America.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (wYseH)
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Aside from the remote possibility that the instructor will teach xer students something about writing, what possible benefit does this class offer?
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It offers description of scientific phenomena that will inspire psychologists and sociologists to request grants for more precise studies in the future, so that legislation can be passed to address the needs of these marginalized groups.
Why do you hate science?
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It offers description of scientific phenomena that will inspire psychologists and sociologists to request grants for more precise studies in the future, so that legislation can be passed to address the needs of these marginalized groups.
Why do you hate science?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (/qEW2)
139
It's because of assholes like her that I can't go anywhere without
having an employee constantly following me around and asking every 30
seconds what I'm up to.
Why do you think they do that to you? I've noticed that the Costco people examine the receipt when one of my sons has it and barely look at me. I could steal them blind.
having an employee constantly following me around and asking every 30
seconds what I'm up to.
Why do you think they do that to you? I've noticed that the Costco people examine the receipt when one of my sons has it and barely look at me. I could steal them blind.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (eO5CB)
140
Gowdy predicting McCabe will be fired by next week- Gateway Pundit
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (m7LQK)
141
There is great hand-wringing and worse of course among some because some Trump judicial nominee beclowned hissef at his Senate hearing, apparently (only see the tidbits and puzzling back/forth at Schlichter's twatter).
So I guess I have to reset my outlook here.
It's a crisis and so on when a judicial nominee fails a pop quiz on some settled legal concepts.
But when the country is impoverished, endangered, its founding spirit strangled and its constitution shredded by idiot self-appointed gauleiters and legislators on the federal bench - as has been happening for decades and lately has become almost the norm - I guess it's just SOP?
"Judges" basing their rulings on no existing law, contrary to existing law, citing campaign statements of political candidates, granting "standing" to people who just don't like a lawful policy, denying standing to most of the country and imposing fundamental *cultural* changes on it contrary to its clear preferences, precisely inverting the clear meaning of a negotiating record and usurping the treaty power from the president and Senate, confecting nonsensical "doctrines" that dress up judicial repeal of constitutional rights, inventing govt. powers that violate common sense and the very informing spirit of American civic life - these things don't merit much comment, and zero action or attention.
Failing a pop quiz on legal mechanics - crisis.
Your lawless, dumbed-down America in a nutshell.
So I guess I have to reset my outlook here.
It's a crisis and so on when a judicial nominee fails a pop quiz on some settled legal concepts.
But when the country is impoverished, endangered, its founding spirit strangled and its constitution shredded by idiot self-appointed gauleiters and legislators on the federal bench - as has been happening for decades and lately has become almost the norm - I guess it's just SOP?
"Judges" basing their rulings on no existing law, contrary to existing law, citing campaign statements of political candidates, granting "standing" to people who just don't like a lawful policy, denying standing to most of the country and imposing fundamental *cultural* changes on it contrary to its clear preferences, precisely inverting the clear meaning of a negotiating record and usurping the treaty power from the president and Senate, confecting nonsensical "doctrines" that dress up judicial repeal of constitutional rights, inventing govt. powers that violate common sense and the very informing spirit of American civic life - these things don't merit much comment, and zero action or attention.
Failing a pop quiz on legal mechanics - crisis.
Your lawless, dumbed-down America in a nutshell.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2017 11:42 AM (QX0Xt)
142
Northernlurker - vodka. Tell 'em it's mineral water because you don't drink.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 11:42 AM (fA1SL)
143
86 Hannity Bombshell? Crickets.....what a bust
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:33 AM (m7LQK)
So this is the boob thread?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:33 AM (m7LQK)
So this is the boob thread?
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 11:42 AM (7HtZB)
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I just got a $1500 car repair bill. Who can I accuse of sexing at me? $$$
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (eO5CB)
Brad at Liberty Mutual?
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (eO5CB)
Brad at Liberty Mutual?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:42 AM (m7LQK)
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If we lose #NetNeutality you can say goodbye to these jobs:
Youtuber
Streamer
YouTube itself is bringing about the extinction of YouTubers; their "advertiser friendly" algorithm flags as questionable anything that might vaguely offend people who would never watch the subject matter, anyway. Hey, YouTube -- when people make videos of a WWII tank battle game, guns will be involved!
Streamers are OK, though, and moving to Amazon's TwitchTV or whatever MSFT is offering. I've seen live streamers get donations in the hundreds of dollars, and I'm not talking about 20-something chicks who take off their clothes and out on "toy shows". They make even more.
Heck, a YouTube/streaming group from Britain, the YogsCsst, has raised over $3.5 million for charity so far this month. In $35 donations...
Youtuber
Streamer
YouTube itself is bringing about the extinction of YouTubers; their "advertiser friendly" algorithm flags as questionable anything that might vaguely offend people who would never watch the subject matter, anyway. Hey, YouTube -- when people make videos of a WWII tank battle game, guns will be involved!
Streamers are OK, though, and moving to Amazon's TwitchTV or whatever MSFT is offering. I've seen live streamers get donations in the hundreds of dollars, and I'm not talking about 20-something chicks who take off their clothes and out on "toy shows". They make even more.
Heck, a YouTube/streaming group from Britain, the YogsCsst, has raised over $3.5 million for charity so far this month. In $35 donations...
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 15, 2017 11:42 AM (pKqmv)
146
Gowdy predicting McCabe will be fired by next week- Gateway Pundit
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (m7LQK)
The whole special council should be shut the fuck down and Flynn, Manfort, and the poor fool pardoned just because
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (m7LQK)
The whole special council should be shut the fuck down and Flynn, Manfort, and the poor fool pardoned just because
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 11:43 AM (5y11N)
147
My daughter who got into an accident last week ( no one hurt) got a notice from her insurance carrier the bill to them will be over 6,000. Sorry to anyone else who has USAA, I guess out rebates will be lower next year?
That would be me.
My son did $7500 the year before, so ....
We're even?
That would be me.
My son did $7500 the year before, so ....
We're even?
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:43 AM (eO5CB)
148
Yeah. There's just no call for it and it has nothing to do with hunting or fishing. Kill it as quickly as possible or don't touch it.
Posted by: joncelli
Agreed.
Posted by: joncelli
Agreed.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 11:43 AM (GjTLE)
149
Yep. The Bloom article is Hannity's bombshell.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 11:43 AM (/tuJf)
150
>>> Hannity Bombshell? Crickets.....what a bust
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:33 AM (m7LQK)
So this is the boob thread?
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 11:42 AM (7HtZB)
Who you callin' a boob? You are the opposite of a Great American. I'll fight you to the death with my martial art skills!
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:33 AM (m7LQK)
So this is the boob thread?
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 11:42 AM (7HtZB)
Who you callin' a boob? You are the opposite of a Great American. I'll fight you to the death with my martial art skills!
Posted by: Sean Hannity at December 15, 2017 11:43 AM (hvf9s)
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I want McCabe prosecuted for conspiracy to overthrow the government.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:43 AM (eO5CB)
152
Ban on bullet-proof glass?
No law yet against steel grills, right?
---Probably not.
What I saw, the regulation was about erecting a 'barrier' between service personnel and customers.
No law yet against steel grills, right?
---Probably not.
What I saw, the regulation was about erecting a 'barrier' between service personnel and customers.
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 11:43 AM (KdDCu)
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Military has been subject to enough trashing over time to be somewhat sensitive in certain areas.
I can attest to the sensitivity, having endured the shit storm during and after Vietnam.
Offered just as an FWIW.
Military has been subject to enough trashing over time to be somewhat sensitive in certain areas.
I can attest to the sensitivity, having endured the shit storm during and after Vietnam.
Offered just as an FWIW.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 15, 2017 11:44 AM (S/hVx)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 11:44 AM (fuK7c)
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I'll remind you of that when you comment about something with which you have no direct experience.
Well, there go all of my future Marilyn Monroe posts.
Well, there go all of my future Marilyn Monroe posts.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2017 11:44 AM (kqsXK)
156
Ban on bullet-proof glass?
So who has the body armor franchise in Philly locked up?
Posted by: Anna Puma
I thought the broad that pushed this thru had some financial angle?
So who has the body armor franchise in Philly locked up?
Posted by: Anna Puma
I thought the broad that pushed this thru had some financial angle?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 11:44 AM (GjTLE)
157
I'd like to point out that CBD's rant involved telling people whose job entails dealing with lunatics and felons on a daily basis that their job isn't all that dangerous.
That might in fact be correct statistically, but asking CBD if he has any experience in making split-second decisions with life or death consequences, or whether his idea of policing is primarily gleaned from the Andy Griffith show, isn't exactly out of bounds either. CBD may have the right to criticize, that doesn't mean that it is an informed criticism.
That might in fact be correct statistically, but asking CBD if he has any experience in making split-second decisions with life or death consequences, or whether his idea of policing is primarily gleaned from the Andy Griffith show, isn't exactly out of bounds either. CBD may have the right to criticize, that doesn't mean that it is an informed criticism.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 11:44 AM (bZ7mE)
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Mostly, young people are just pissed (but won't admit it) that this is likely the end of cheap/free video streaming.
Posted by: Hikaru
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Yeah, I think it's almost entirely piracy related. Notice that almost every press release by the providers say something about "legal content."
Posted by: Hikaru
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Yeah, I think it's almost entirely piracy related. Notice that almost every press release by the providers say something about "legal content."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot. at December 15, 2017 11:44 AM (fsZof)
159
139 It's because of assholes like her that I can't go anywhere without
having an employee constantly following me around and asking every 30
seconds what I'm up to.
Why do you think they do that to you? I've noticed that the Costco people examine the receipt when one of my sons has it and barely look at me. I could steal them blind.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (eO5CB)
Store cops profile, whether they admit it or not. Under 25 and/or black or hispanic means you're going to get a tail. It's not discrimination, it's playing the odds.
having an employee constantly following me around and asking every 30
seconds what I'm up to.
Why do you think they do that to you? I've noticed that the Costco people examine the receipt when one of my sons has it and barely look at me. I could steal them blind.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (eO5CB)
Store cops profile, whether they admit it or not. Under 25 and/or black or hispanic means you're going to get a tail. It's not discrimination, it's playing the odds.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 15, 2017 11:44 AM (RD7QR)
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Did they also outlaw ducking down behind the counter?
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 11:45 AM (3myMJ)
161
From The Hill:
A well-known women's rights lawyersought toarrange compensation from
donors and tabloid media outlets for women who made or considered making
sexual misconduct allegations against Donald Trump during the final months of the 2016 presidential race, according to documents and interviews.California
lawyer Lisa Bloom's efforts included offering to sell alleged victims'
stories to TV outlets in return for a commission for herself, arranging a
donor to pay off one Trump accuser's mortgage and attempting to secure a
six-figure payment for another woman who ultimately declined to come
forward after being offered as much as $750,000, the clients told The
Hill.The women's accounts were chronicled in contemporaneous contractual
documents, emails and text messages reviewed by The Hill,including an
exchange of texts between one woman and Bloom that suggested political
action committees supporting Hillary Clinton were contacted during the effort..
BOOM
A well-known women's rights lawyersought toarrange compensation from
donors and tabloid media outlets for women who made or considered making
sexual misconduct allegations against Donald Trump during the final months of the 2016 presidential race, according to documents and interviews.California
lawyer Lisa Bloom's efforts included offering to sell alleged victims'
stories to TV outlets in return for a commission for herself, arranging a
donor to pay off one Trump accuser's mortgage and attempting to secure a
six-figure payment for another woman who ultimately declined to come
forward after being offered as much as $750,000, the clients told The
Hill.The women's accounts were chronicled in contemporaneous contractual
documents, emails and text messages reviewed by The Hill,including an
exchange of texts between one woman and Bloom that suggested political
action committees supporting Hillary Clinton were contacted during the effort..
BOOM
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2017 11:45 AM (W+vEI)
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97 Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
So, sandbags still okay then?
So, sandbags still okay then?
Posted by: Under Fire at December 15, 2017 11:45 AM (r9UYA)
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I have an otherwise very intelligent friend who is a total liberal. He is very well off. When we discuss politics, I always ask him to review the majority of people on his side: children (immature college kids who have yet to experience anything but know everything), illegal immigrants, ignorant urban dwellers (who, for the most part, contribute nothing but crime and additional children who will continue the cycle) and hysterical womyn who are basically just the nextgen cat ladies-in-waiting. Oh and gays. Don't forget teh gays. So, there's the crew you've thrown your lot in with?
So, when he is crying about net neutrality and asks me if I know about it, I said no, but if all of those people are upset it went away, then I'm cool with it.
So, when he is crying about net neutrality and asks me if I know about it, I said no, but if all of those people are upset it went away, then I'm cool with it.
Posted by: Eli Cash at December 15, 2017 11:45 AM (a+WIL)
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136 >>Lisa Bloom offering $750K to women to come forward against Trump breaking on Drudge....is that Hannity's Shoe drop?
Seeing as how Hannity has been Trump's biggest media supporter since Day 1 and he has had John Solomon on his show constantly about various topics, wouldn't surprise me.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (/tuJf)
You drag $750,000 around you never know what you'll turn up.
Seeing as how Hannity has been Trump's biggest media supporter since Day 1 and he has had John Solomon on his show constantly about various topics, wouldn't surprise me.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (/tuJf)
You drag $750,000 around you never know what you'll turn up.
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 11:45 AM (7HtZB)
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Sharknado is enough reason.
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at December 15, 2017 11:45 AM (nQHw/)
166
So this is the boob thread?
After #100 all threads are boob threads.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 11:44 AM (fuK7c)
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80% of us just returned from looking at boobs or are hoping to see some boobs shortly.
After #100 all threads are boob threads.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 11:44 AM (fuK7c)
---
80% of us just returned from looking at boobs or are hoping to see some boobs shortly.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot. at December 15, 2017 11:45 AM (fsZof)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2017 11:46 AM (kqsXK)
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It's a crisis and so on when a judicial nominee fails a pop quiz on some settled legal concepts.
But it wasn't a crisis when the Wise Latina Sotomayor didn't know the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
Shhhh. Because Obama.
But it wasn't a crisis when the Wise Latina Sotomayor didn't know the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
Shhhh. Because Obama.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:46 AM (eO5CB)
169
Today's quiz:
Who said this?
We are in a national moment where rough justice stands in place of careful analysis, nuance and due process.
Who said this?
We are in a national moment where rough justice stands in place of careful analysis, nuance and due process.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2017 11:46 AM (B+qrE)
170
No, it is not. COMPETITION, DILLHOLES.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (B+qrE)
Millennials do not understand basic economic principles.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (B+qrE)
Millennials do not understand basic economic principles.
Posted by: auscolpyr at December 15, 2017 11:46 AM (suO/a)
171
We're even?
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:43 AM (eO5CB)
Yup LOL.
She kinda ran a stop sign, but was hysterical and he knew I was in the Military and the other guy involved had no insurance so the cop was pissed at the other driver who I understand acted like an asshole. So the accident report pretty much absolves my daughter mostly. Nice cop
We're even?
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:43 AM (eO5CB)
Yup LOL.
She kinda ran a stop sign, but was hysterical and he knew I was in the Military and the other guy involved had no insurance so the cop was pissed at the other driver who I understand acted like an asshole. So the accident report pretty much absolves my daughter mostly. Nice cop
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 11:46 AM (5y11N)
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I can attest to the sensitivity, having endured the shit storm during and after Vietnam.
Offered just as an FWIW.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 15, 2017 11:44 AM (S/hVx)
Go back and read what I wrote on Wednesday. I not only did not criticize the military, I praised it.
And in the comments I suggested that perhaps we need more ex-military going into policing.
Offered just as an FWIW.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 15, 2017 11:44 AM (S/hVx)
Go back and read what I wrote on Wednesday. I not only did not criticize the military, I praised it.
And in the comments I suggested that perhaps we need more ex-military going into policing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 11:46 AM (wYseH)
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>>You drag $750,000 around you never know what you'll turn up.
Go take a look at Hannity's twitter account. This is the bombshell he was talking about and it is a pretty big bombshell.
Go take a look at Hannity's twitter account. This is the bombshell he was talking about and it is a pretty big bombshell.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 11:46 AM (/tuJf)
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Notice that almost every press release by the providers say something about "legal content."
Yeah. All of the BIAS sub paragraphs were couched in such terms. When I point out that under NN rules it would've been perfectly legal for an ISP to throttle Pirate Bay, the response is...
You're a rayciss.
Yeah. All of the BIAS sub paragraphs were couched in such terms. When I point out that under NN rules it would've been perfectly legal for an ISP to throttle Pirate Bay, the response is...
You're a rayciss.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 11:46 AM (MINbv)
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I will say this about Net Neutrality, I really think Ajit Pai from the FCC was incredibly stupid making that cringeworthy video.
Posted by: Maritime at December 15, 2017 11:46 AM (lKmt3)
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I just got a $1500 car repair bill. Who can I accuse of sexing at me? $$$
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (eO5CB)
Brad at Liberty Mutual?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:42 AM (m7LQK)
Jake from State Farm?
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (eO5CB)
Brad at Liberty Mutual?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:42 AM (m7LQK)
Jake from State Farm?
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 11:47 AM (EzdLW)
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102
The only conclusion I can draw is that they had very specific, clear plans on how to use Net Neutrality and those were just blocked for now.
_____________
What was the end game with that? I have some guesses, but I honestly can't figure it out. I know good and well this level of outrage is not because a cable provider might charge a few more dollars for heavy streaming use.
They really had something in mind where they were going to stamp out any political movement brewing online.
Posted by: Maritime at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (lKmt3)
In the end, it was probably just simple control, graft, and cronyism.
That was the consistent hallmark of obama from Gibson Guitars, to Government motors bailout, to healthcare, and beyond. Everything became politicized after 2008, and it was all to the benefit of one party. Sing the song or pay the piper.
This was just more of the same. And google, twitter, facebook all toed the line.
The only conclusion I can draw is that they had very specific, clear plans on how to use Net Neutrality and those were just blocked for now.
_____________
What was the end game with that? I have some guesses, but I honestly can't figure it out. I know good and well this level of outrage is not because a cable provider might charge a few more dollars for heavy streaming use.
They really had something in mind where they were going to stamp out any political movement brewing online.
Posted by: Maritime at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (lKmt3)
In the end, it was probably just simple control, graft, and cronyism.
That was the consistent hallmark of obama from Gibson Guitars, to Government motors bailout, to healthcare, and beyond. Everything became politicized after 2008, and it was all to the benefit of one party. Sing the song or pay the piper.
This was just more of the same. And google, twitter, facebook all toed the line.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 11:47 AM (Dp6qK)
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Store cops profile, whether they admit it or not. Under 25 and/or black or hispanic means you're going to get a tail. It's not discrimination, it's playing the odds.
One of my brothers ran a shoe store for years. Add "middle-aged women" to the profile list and it's spot-on.
One of my brothers ran a shoe store for years. Add "middle-aged women" to the profile list and it's spot-on.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 15, 2017 11:47 AM (pKqmv)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 11:47 AM (wYseH)
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Looks like this thread is devolving into a free-fire zone.
And if you ruin any future MPPPP post about Marilyn Monroe or starlets in general, I will never speak to you again about science-fiction, boots, anime, or history.
And if you ruin any future MPPPP post about Marilyn Monroe or starlets in general, I will never speak to you again about science-fiction, boots, anime, or history.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:47 AM (wiubB)
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Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio
Say goodbye to corner stores. Why doesn't the same rationale apply to politicians who need protection?
Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio
Say goodbye to corner stores. Why doesn't the same rationale apply to politicians who need protection?
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2017 11:47 AM (dZ756)
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So, what would you saywe are talking about, on this thread???
Posted by: kraken at December 15, 2017 11:47 AM (zSVEm)
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Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:24 AM (wiubB)
Anna, when you put out A Pinch of Larceny, did you upload the art from a personal file or did Amazon have a set of pictures to choose? I'm trying to find a good cover for Thirteen Moons, but no luck yet.
Anna, when you put out A Pinch of Larceny, did you upload the art from a personal file or did Amazon have a set of pictures to choose? I'm trying to find a good cover for Thirteen Moons, but no luck yet.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2017 11:48 AM (kqsXK)
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Millennials do not understand basic economic principles.
Boomers haven't let basic economics exist since they came of age.
Boomers haven't let basic economics exist since they came of age.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 15, 2017 11:48 AM (pKqmv)
Posted by: Hannity at December 15, 2017 11:48 AM (HgMAr)
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16 I served in the Military...that doesn't make me a friggin expert. ...well expert shooter maybe...but not expert commenter...
Posted by: USMC8541One Shot to Slay them all at December 15, 2017 11:21 AM (NmR1a)
I served in the Army, and now I'm pretty much an expert on everything.
Just ask me.
Posted by: USMC8541One Shot to Slay them all at December 15, 2017 11:21 AM (NmR1a)
I served in the Army, and now I'm pretty much an expert on everything.
Just ask me.
Posted by: Jwest at December 15, 2017 11:48 AM (/roJx)
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Andrea Ramsey, a Democratic candidate for Congress, will drop out of the race after the Kansas City Star asked her about accusations in a 2005 lawsuit that she sexually harassed and retaliated against a male subordinate who said he had rejected her advances. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article189931704.html#storylink=cpy
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at December 15, 2017 11:48 AM (e8kgV)
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The Bloom article is Hannity's bombshell.
I was afraid Hannity's bombshell was going to be groping allegations against the My Pillow guy.
I was afraid Hannity's bombshell was going to be groping allegations against the My Pillow guy.
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 11:48 AM (EzdLW)
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In the end, it was probably just simple control, graft, and cronyism. "
And that's a surprise?
Heh.
And that's a surprise?
Heh.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 11:48 AM (MINbv)
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They really had something in mind where they were going to stamp out any political movement brewing online.
Posted by: Maritime at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (lKmt3)
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I suspect it had something to do with making it a paid-for human right somewhere down the line.
Posted by: Maritime at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (lKmt3)
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I suspect it had something to do with making it a paid-for human right somewhere down the line.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot. at December 15, 2017 11:49 AM (fsZof)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2017 11:49 AM (Boy/L)
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"157 I'd like to point out that CBD's rant involved telling people whose job entails dealing with lunatics and felons on a daily basis that their job isn't all that dangerous.
"
Hey, I'm a landlord, among other things. I deal with lunatics and felons on an almost daily basis.
"
Hey, I'm a landlord, among other things. I deal with lunatics and felons on an almost daily basis.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 15, 2017 11:49 AM (k1TUh)
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173 >>You drag $750,000 around you never know what you'll turn up.
Go take a look at Hannity's twitter account. This is the bombshell he was talking about and it is a pretty big bombshell.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 11:46 AM (/tuJf)
Did The Hill steal his thunder or did he already know that they would be reporting this?
Go take a look at Hannity's twitter account. This is the bombshell he was talking about and it is a pretty big bombshell.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 11:46 AM (/tuJf)
Did The Hill steal his thunder or did he already know that they would be reporting this?
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2017 11:49 AM (Enq6K)
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What's a girdle?
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Youngest kidlet informed me that she spent $10 on 2 prs of compression shorts at WalMart rather than whatever obscene amounts for 'spanx'.
What's a girdle?
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Youngest kidlet informed me that she spent $10 on 2 prs of compression shorts at WalMart rather than whatever obscene amounts for 'spanx'.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2017 11:50 AM (MIKMs)
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April Ryan conceded piegate and even posed for some pics with Sarah.
Sarah Huckabee-Sanders - 1
April Ryan - big fat zero
Sarah Huckabee-Sanders - 1
April Ryan - big fat zero
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 11:50 AM (ul9CR)
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Only those who have boobs or have ever touched boobs extensively should be allowed to express an opinion on boobs.
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 11:50 AM (EzdLW)
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Andrea Ramsey, a Democratic candidate for Congress, will drop out of the race after the Kansas City Star asked her about accusations in a 2005 lawsuit that she sexually harassed and retaliated against a male subordinate
This was my quiz from above.
This was my quiz from above.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 15, 2017 11:50 AM (Boy/L)
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YouTube itself is bringing about the extinction of YouTubers
This.
If there's to be a fairness-doctrine for the Internet it has to go for the front-end-UI and middleware / webservices people too. Not just for the hardware and the monkeys running the servers.
The version we had was just Google bribing and bamboozling some dog-eating retard in a nice house.
This.
If there's to be a fairness-doctrine for the Internet it has to go for the front-end-UI and middleware / webservices people too. Not just for the hardware and the monkeys running the servers.
The version we had was just Google bribing and bamboozling some dog-eating retard in a nice house.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 15, 2017 11:50 AM (6FqZa)
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I just got a $1500 car repair bill. Who can I accuse of sexing at me? $$$
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (eO5CB)
Brad at Liberty Mutual?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:42 AM (m7LQK)
Jake from State Farm?
Can we get Lilly from ATT in this? I know they're not in the insurance business but there has to be some nexus. Like someone who works there has insurance.
Because we should get Lilly from ATT into this.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (eO5CB)
Brad at Liberty Mutual?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:42 AM (m7LQK)
Jake from State Farm?
Can we get Lilly from ATT in this? I know they're not in the insurance business but there has to be some nexus. Like someone who works there has insurance.
Because we should get Lilly from ATT into this.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 11:51 AM (fuK7c)
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MPPPP it was an image that had snagged off the Internet and used. The Yuriko cover started as an Amazon supplied image that I then tinkered with.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:51 AM (wiubB)
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Were these fellows Japs? Because the Japs love them some shark meat.
Maybe they were just tenderizing it on the fin you might say.....
Maybe they were just tenderizing it on the fin you might say.....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2017 11:51 AM (EoRCO)
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"Why do you people want more rules? Just throw poo at the cable company and get a satellite dish...that's what we did."
satellite internet is awful compared to cable. Far more expensive, bandwidth caps, and more sensitive to weather issues.
I think the whole NN debate could be concentrated in what is known as last mile connectivity issue. There just isn't enough vendors due to municipal monopolies to supply decent service. Thus the existing monopolies offer crap service until real competition comes around. For real-life examples, see broadband pricing curve when Google Fiber is announced in the various cities.
satellite internet is awful compared to cable. Far more expensive, bandwidth caps, and more sensitive to weather issues.
I think the whole NN debate could be concentrated in what is known as last mile connectivity issue. There just isn't enough vendors due to municipal monopolies to supply decent service. Thus the existing monopolies offer crap service until real competition comes around. For real-life examples, see broadband pricing curve when Google Fiber is announced in the various cities.
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at December 15, 2017 11:51 AM (vgwv+)
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Only those who have boobs or have ever touched boobs extensively should be allowed to express an opinion on boobs.
Do they have to be female boobs?
Do they have to be female boobs?
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 11:51 AM (bZ7mE)
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sugared vibrators?
The lesser-known follow up to Sheena Easton's "Sugar Walls."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2017 11:46
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Pour some sugar on me.
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sugared vibrators?
The lesser-known follow up to Sheena Easton's "Sugar Walls."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2017 11:46
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Pour some sugar on me.
Posted by: Def Dildoes at December 15, 2017 11:51 AM (pMGkg)
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That Schlichter tweet is an instant classic.
Posted by: rickl at December 15, 2017 11:51 AM (xjiRE)
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CBD -- I didn't get a chance to comment on yesterday's morning thread, so:
I agree with your take on the current problem with police completely. You could not have said it any better.
it's not a race problem, it's a cowardice problem. Not all, but a very large number of police think their primary objective is to return home in one piece at the end of their shift, and not to protect the public. And those police will take zero chance of personal harm; and err on the side of caution by shooting suspects if they even suspect that they might be a threat, before any real threat materializes.
That video of the drunk guy being executed while laying on the floor and trying to pull up his britches was absolutely infuriating. One of the worst cases of trigger-happy policing I've ever seen.
I agree with your take on the current problem with police completely. You could not have said it any better.
it's not a race problem, it's a cowardice problem. Not all, but a very large number of police think their primary objective is to return home in one piece at the end of their shift, and not to protect the public. And those police will take zero chance of personal harm; and err on the side of caution by shooting suspects if they even suspect that they might be a threat, before any real threat materializes.
That video of the drunk guy being executed while laying on the floor and trying to pull up his britches was absolutely infuriating. One of the worst cases of trigger-happy policing I've ever seen.
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 15, 2017 11:52 AM (sgHEm)
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While we are all talking about different things, can anyone provide an update on the wall? Is it being built or moving in that direction?
Posted by: Eli Cash at December 15, 2017 11:52 AM (a+WIL)
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The other fun part I like to spring on netnutters is that the rule didn't apply to enterprise services, VPNs, hosting, or "cloud data"/data storage services.
Again, when I'd point that out, I was a rayciss. Or sexist. I forget which is worse...
Again, when I'd point that out, I was a rayciss. Or sexist. I forget which is worse...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 11:52 AM (MINbv)
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That might in fact be correct statistically, but
asking CBD if he has any experience in making split-second decisions
with life or death consequences, or whether his idea of policing is
primarily gleaned from the Andy Griffith show, isn't exactly out of
bounds either.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 11:44 AM (bZ7mE)
It is correct. So I have very little interest in the FEELZ of cops, which is what you are arguing.
Your argument is specious.
asking CBD if he has any experience in making split-second decisions
with life or death consequences, or whether his idea of policing is
primarily gleaned from the Andy Griffith show, isn't exactly out of
bounds either.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 11:44 AM (bZ7mE)
It is correct. So I have very little interest in the FEELZ of cops, which is what you are arguing.
Your argument is specious.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 11:52 AM (wYseH)
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182 So, what would you saywe are talking about, on this thread???
Posted by: kraken
At 182 comments in? Anything you want.
Posted by: kraken
At 182 comments in? Anything you want.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 11:52 AM (GjTLE)
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The store window madness is only the beginning of the madness in Philly.
From a job posting for Assistant DA's: "Work with Philadelphia's DA-Elect Larry Krasner. The Philly DA's Office will be among the most progressive in the country with a commitment to ending mass incarceration and cash bail..."
If you recall, Krasner was one of the DA seats that Soros has quietly bought over the past year. We are well and truly fucked
From a job posting for Assistant DA's: "Work with Philadelphia's DA-Elect Larry Krasner. The Philly DA's Office will be among the most progressive in the country with a commitment to ending mass incarceration and cash bail..."
If you recall, Krasner was one of the DA seats that Soros has quietly bought over the past year. We are well and truly fucked
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at December 15, 2017 11:52 AM (mynhJ)
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196 Only those who have boobs or have ever touched boobs extensively should be allowed to express an opinion on boobs.
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 11:50 AM (EzdLW)
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I suspect the HQ is full of experts who have performed thorough visual and hands-on research over, cumulatively, thousands of years.
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 11:50 AM (EzdLW)
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I suspect the HQ is full of experts who have performed thorough visual and hands-on research over, cumulatively, thousands of years.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot. at December 15, 2017 11:52 AM (fsZof)
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>>>YouTube itself is bringing about the extinction of YouTubers; their "advertiser friendly" algorithm flags as questionable anything that might vaguely offend people who would never watch the subject matter, anyway. Hey, YouTube -- when people make videos of a WWII tank battle game, guns will be involved!
There are sick videos on Youtube involving popular cartoon characters doing gross things. They creators of these monstrosities use the site's watching algorithms to rack up millions of views. I think they rely on the "put baby in front of ipad and use Youtube vids as a babysitter" sort of parenting, and then get a kick knowing they are corrupting babies that can't turn the thing off. Really twisted stuff.
But those nice conservative black ladies that voted Trump? THEY is the real menace here! Demonetize their vids pronto!!
There are sick videos on Youtube involving popular cartoon characters doing gross things. They creators of these monstrosities use the site's watching algorithms to rack up millions of views. I think they rely on the "put baby in front of ipad and use Youtube vids as a babysitter" sort of parenting, and then get a kick knowing they are corrupting babies that can't turn the thing off. Really twisted stuff.
But those nice conservative black ladies that voted Trump? THEY is the real menace here! Demonetize their vids pronto!!
Posted by: LizLem at December 15, 2017 11:52 AM (hvf9s)
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>>Did The Hill steal his thunder or did he already know that they would be reporting this?
All year long, Hannity has been featuring both John Solomon and Sara Carter on his show. They are two of the best investigative reporters in DC and they have been breaking stuff on Uranium One, the OIG investigation and lots of Trump stuff.
Solomon works at The Hill so that's where his stuff is published. I'm sure Hannity knew this was coming because of his relationship with Solomon and was just teasing the release of the article.
All year long, Hannity has been featuring both John Solomon and Sara Carter on his show. They are two of the best investigative reporters in DC and they have been breaking stuff on Uranium One, the OIG investigation and lots of Trump stuff.
Solomon works at The Hill so that's where his stuff is published. I'm sure Hannity knew this was coming because of his relationship with Solomon and was just teasing the release of the article.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (/tuJf)
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That My Pillow guy IS creepy,have you seen his new ad were he appears in peoples bedrooms?
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (LiyEm)
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Interesting, CBD, about former military joining LE. A pretty fair share of my family has gravitated to just that. Have been for a number of years.
We make pretty good cops, if I might brag a bit.
Interesting, CBD, about former military joining LE. A pretty fair share of my family has gravitated to just that. Have been for a number of years.
We make pretty good cops, if I might brag a bit.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (S/hVx)
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Left Shark had it coming.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (rnAwa)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (wiubB)
219
176 - Effing hilarious! I'm dying here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (m7LQK)
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Nice cop
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 11:46 AM (5y11N)
Et tu Brute?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 11:47 AM (wYseH)
I should show you the accident report..it is kinda funny how the cop tried to go easy on her and it was her fault.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 11:46 AM (5y11N)
Et tu Brute?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 11:47 AM (wYseH)
I should show you the accident report..it is kinda funny how the cop tried to go easy on her and it was her fault.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 11:54 AM (5y11N)
221
That My Pillow guy IS creepy,have you seen his new ad were he appears in peoples bedrooms?
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (LiyEm)
..........
"I'm not going to hold it for you all night."
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (LiyEm)
..........
"I'm not going to hold it for you all night."
Posted by: wth at December 15, 2017 11:56 AM (HgMAr)
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We make pretty good cops, if I might brag a bit.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (S/hVx)
Why?
Serious question.
[not the bragging part, but the "military make good cops part]
Posted by: irongrampa at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (S/hVx)
Why?
Serious question.
[not the bragging part, but the "military make good cops part]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 11:56 AM (wYseH)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 11:56 AM (5y11N)
224
125
I served in the military (bubbleheads unite!), even briefly in the base police (although only as a dispatcher), so I might be qualified to comment?
That shooting was murder. I might be willing to go down to voluntary manslaughter but nothing less than that.
Go, punk monkey, go!
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (Vzqe+)
You can have that opinion regardless of your military service. Bubblehead powers, activate.
I served in the military (bubbleheads unite!), even briefly in the base police (although only as a dispatcher), so I might be qualified to comment?
That shooting was murder. I might be willing to go down to voluntary manslaughter but nothing less than that.
Go, punk monkey, go!
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 15, 2017 11:39 AM (Vzqe+)
You can have that opinion regardless of your military service. Bubblehead powers, activate.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 11:57 AM (Dp6qK)
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One of my brothers ran a shoe store for years. Add "middle-aged women" to the profile list and it's spot-on.
It depends a lot what part of the store or what your shop is. If you have a candy store, then little kids are your primary suspects. Its just common sense; you watch out for who is most likely to steal from you, based on experience, history, and data.
Don't want cops tailing you in the store? Get all your homies to stop stealing.
It depends a lot what part of the store or what your shop is. If you have a candy store, then little kids are your primary suspects. Its just common sense; you watch out for who is most likely to steal from you, based on experience, history, and data.
Don't want cops tailing you in the store? Get all your homies to stop stealing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:57 AM (39g3+)
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If there's to be a fairness-doctrine for the Internet it has to go for the front-end-UI and middleware / webservices people too. Not just for the hardware and the monkeys running the servers.
Ironically, the Communications Decency Act should provide that. If you provide a way for people to lost content/discuss/whatever, then so long as you do not police it, you're not liable for the content.
But YouTube didn't like advertisers who were shocked -- SHOCKED!!! -- that their ads targeting 16-24 year-old-males were being shown alongside videos with violence, obscenities, and references to sexual acts...
Meanwhile, YouTube comments sections remain one of the most toxic places on the planet...
Ironically, the Communications Decency Act should provide that. If you provide a way for people to lost content/discuss/whatever, then so long as you do not police it, you're not liable for the content.
But YouTube didn't like advertisers who were shocked -- SHOCKED!!! -- that their ads targeting 16-24 year-old-males were being shown alongside videos with violence, obscenities, and references to sexual acts...
Meanwhile, YouTube comments sections remain one of the most toxic places on the planet...
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 15, 2017 11:57 AM (pKqmv)
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Only those who have boobs dicks or have ever touched boobs dicks extensively should be allowed to express an opinion on boobs masculinity.
Thus ends the toxic masculinity argument, oppressive patriarchy argument, mansplaining complaints, rape culture, and gender equality arguments.
Thus ends the toxic masculinity argument, oppressive patriarchy argument, mansplaining complaints, rape culture, and gender equality arguments.
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 11:58 AM (KdDCu)
228
But that action is no more indicative of baseline policing in America than is the guy who adopted the junky mom's baby.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 11:58 AM (Dp6qK)
229
29 26 What in the holy hell is a Spanx?
Posted by: Under Fire at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (r9UYA)
Butt shapers.
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WRONG! It is the greatest crime against men in the history of humanity. The creators should be flogged then jailed for life. False advertising in the most extreme sense.
Posted by: Under Fire at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (r9UYA)
Butt shapers.
~~~~~~~~~~
WRONG! It is the greatest crime against men in the history of humanity. The creators should be flogged then jailed for life. False advertising in the most extreme sense.
Posted by: Ceasar at December 15, 2017 11:58 AM (0PXsl)
230
That My Pillow guy IS creepy,have you seen his new ad were he appears in peoples bedrooms?
Him and the King from Burger King should do an ad together.
Him and the King from Burger King should do an ad together.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:58 AM (39g3+)
231
I have Comcast internet / television.... I gotta say they are great, except for the matter of having to pay them... so unfair...
Posted by: kraken at December 15, 2017 11:58 AM (zSVEm)
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I suspect the HQ is full of experts who have performed thorough visual
and hands-on research over, cumulatively, thousands of years.
And somehow it still averages out to 29.
and hands-on research over, cumulatively, thousands of years.
And somehow it still averages out to 29.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 15, 2017 11:58 AM (IcT7t)
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Because we should get Lilly from ATT into this.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 11:51 AM (fuK7c)
Don't forget Toyota Jan.
And some feather pillows.
Because we should get Lilly from ATT into this.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 11:51 AM (fuK7c)
Don't forget Toyota Jan.
And some feather pillows.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 15, 2017 11:58 AM (z79tQ)
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it's not a race problem, it's a cowardice problem. Not all, but a very large number of police think their primary objective is to return home in one piece at the end of their shift, and not to protect the public.
And those police will take zero chance of personal harm; and err on the side of caution by shooting suspects if they even suspect that they might be a threat, before any real threat materializes.
Or dogs.
Sorry.
They get the same pass I get if I shoot someone or animal with no clearly defined threat.
And those police will take zero chance of personal harm; and err on the side of caution by shooting suspects if they even suspect that they might be a threat, before any real threat materializes.
Or dogs.
Sorry.
They get the same pass I get if I shoot someone or animal with no clearly defined threat.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 11:58 AM (GjTLE)
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this is not an echo chamber.
Now batting for Pedro Borbon, Manny Moto... oto... oto... to... o... o...
Now batting for Pedro Borbon, Manny Moto... oto... oto... to... o... o...
Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2017 11:58 AM (QCX64)
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MPPPP it was an image that had snagged off the Internet and used. The Yuriko cover started as an Amazon supplied image that I then tinkered with.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:51 AM (wiubB)
Thanks, Anna. None of my Theda Bara pictures have the right spooky look to them, so I'm trying to find a somewhat Eyes of Laura Mars image.
Something else to work on this weekend.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:51 AM (wiubB)
Thanks, Anna. None of my Theda Bara pictures have the right spooky look to them, so I'm trying to find a somewhat Eyes of Laura Mars image.
Something else to work on this weekend.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2017 11:58 AM (kqsXK)
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Shark dragging.
Open season on shopowners.
Net Neutrality Numbnuts.
Big Shoe Dropping.
Session is either sleeping or awake with his eyes closed.
Slow news day.
Open season on shopowners.
Net Neutrality Numbnuts.
Big Shoe Dropping.
Session is either sleeping or awake with his eyes closed.
Slow news day.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 11:59 AM (3myMJ)
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Solomon works at The Hill so that's where his stuff is published. I'm sure Hannity knew this was coming because of his relationship with Solomon and was just teasing the release of the article.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (/tuJf)
Ah ok. Thanks!
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (/tuJf)
Ah ok. Thanks!
Posted by: Tami at December 15, 2017 11:59 AM (Enq6K)
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Also, sharks are pretty.
When you're deciding how much deference to give to an alien life form, like say women, it matters how pretty they are.
When you're deciding how much deference to give to an alien life form, like say women, it matters how pretty they are.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 11:59 AM (fuK7c)
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If your store sells Chinese sunglasses, add "UCLA basketball players" to the profile list.
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 11:59 AM (EzdLW)
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That My Pillow guy IS creepy,have you seen his new ad were he appears in peoples bedrooms?
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I always laugh at them using retro themes. I remember an old commercial with a guy appearing in someone's medicine cabinet.
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I always laugh at them using retro themes. I remember an old commercial with a guy appearing in someone's medicine cabinet.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2017 11:59 AM (MIKMs)
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I dunno, I see kind of a fizzle. Lisa Bloom can and is credibly claiming the money was for security and relocation.
The whole deal is slimy as hell, but not the BFD O'Reilly and Hannity made it out to be, afaics.
At least from what I've seen so far. Unless more shoes are to drop.
The whole deal is slimy as hell, but not the BFD O'Reilly and Hannity made it out to be, afaics.
At least from what I've seen so far. Unless more shoes are to drop.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 11:59 AM (ul9CR)
Posted by: Philadelphia Eagles at December 15, 2017 11:59 AM (vChNs)
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215 That My Pillow guy IS creepy,have you seen his new ad were he appears in peoples bedrooms?
I just ordered two on Wednesday using promo code ML35. I've got Lisa Bloom on speed dial if he shows up unannounced like that.
I just ordered two on Wednesday using promo code ML35. I've got Lisa Bloom on speed dial if he shows up unannounced like that.
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 12:00 PM (m7LQK)
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False advertising in the most extreme sense.
Posted by: Ceasar at December 15, 2017 11:58 AM (0PXsl)
Dis ere's a can o worms you don't wanna open up, buddy.
Noam Sein?
Posted by: Ceasar at December 15, 2017 11:58 AM (0PXsl)
Dis ere's a can o worms you don't wanna open up, buddy.
Noam Sein?
Posted by: Corset Makers Local 642 at December 15, 2017 12:00 PM (z79tQ)
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"The State Attorney's Office is committed to holding these men accountable for having engaged in such senseless and unjustifiable animal cruelty.
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Had something like this happened in England or Sweden (or San Francisco), people would go just as apeshit. Yet when teens are raped or people killed, *crickets*. Aren't humans at least animals and thus deserve to be protected from senseless and unjustifiable cruelty? When animals are treated better than people, it's like the feeling that laws only apply to some but not others. The animal rights crowd are getting more callous and morally broken.
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Had something like this happened in England or Sweden (or San Francisco), people would go just as apeshit. Yet when teens are raped or people killed, *crickets*. Aren't humans at least animals and thus deserve to be protected from senseless and unjustifiable cruelty? When animals are treated better than people, it's like the feeling that laws only apply to some but not others. The animal rights crowd are getting more callous and morally broken.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 15, 2017 12:00 PM (/qEW2)
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I can't work out why YouTube has comments to begin with. Just shut that crap off.
My biggest concern about the internet right now is how the biggest content providers are censoring and demonetizing things they determine to be politically incorrect. Not wrong, not objectively offensive, not sexual content, but just "your political opinion is unwelcome." And Twitter's idiotic council on removing bad speech from the site is even worse.
My biggest concern about the internet right now is how the biggest content providers are censoring and demonetizing things they determine to be politically incorrect. Not wrong, not objectively offensive, not sexual content, but just "your political opinion is unwelcome." And Twitter's idiotic council on removing bad speech from the site is even worse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:00 PM (39g3+)
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239 Also, sharks are pretty.
When you're deciding how much deference to give to an alien life form, like say women, it matters how pretty they are.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 11:59 AM (fuK7c)
Yeah, the hammerheads are especially fetching..
When you're deciding how much deference to give to an alien life form, like say women, it matters how pretty they are.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 11:59 AM (fuK7c)
Yeah, the hammerheads are especially fetching..
Posted by: kraken at December 15, 2017 12:00 PM (zSVEm)
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Bubblehead powers, activate.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 11:57 AM (Dp6qK)
o_O
How many of us can there possibly be here?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 11:57 AM (Dp6qK)
o_O
How many of us can there possibly be here?
Posted by: hogmartin at December 15, 2017 12:00 PM (y87Qq)
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6 So, apparently, if I didn't serve in the military and wasn't deployed to a combat zone I have no right to criticize the current law enforcement quagmire that we are in.
Very few of us have served in public office so we have no right to criticize politicians either.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 11:17 AM (ul9CR)
It's the bullshit Michael Moore-ian "chicken hawk" accusation all over again. It's specious and spurious but people do love to throw it around.
Very few of us have served in public office so we have no right to criticize politicians either.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 11:17 AM (ul9CR)
It's the bullshit Michael Moore-ian "chicken hawk" accusation all over again. It's specious and spurious but people do love to throw it around.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:01 PM (NWiLs)
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Love Kurt's tweet. It says it all. The idiots that keep crying wolf.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 15, 2017 12:01 PM (3BFzK)
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Zzzzzzzzz
Posted by: Jeff Sessions at December 15, 2017 12:01 PM (gfU6H)
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Many Dennis Prager videos were removed from Youtube under the reign of Net Neutrality.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2017 12:01 PM (IqV8l)
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"it's not a race problem, it's a cowardice problem."
i agree completely - give you a case in point near me, last year. It ended up being called a "justified shooting" but it was totally unnecessary.
Distraught, mentally unbalanced girl threatening suicide goes down to police station. She's 17 years old, weighs maybe 110 pounds, she's out of her mind but if you know anything about psychology, some part of her is still trying to get help, which is why she went to the police station. So she goes in to the lobby, and then goes nuts again and pulls a knife, and starts swinging it. Point 1 - no one else is in the lobby except the attendant, who very quickly exits. At that point, she was contained, all they had to do was lock the doors of that room and wait a few hours till her rage burned out and she collapsed, which was going to happen. (even a coward could have done that) She's not a hardened criminal, she's mentally ill, and its obvious.
BUT instead one of the deputies decides he can't wait, so he goes in to try and make her give up, and they wrassle (dumb) and she pulls out the knife again and somebody shoots her, she's dead, the end. Of course she pulled it, so the ruling is justified.
BUT I watched the video, and given someone her size I'm pretty sure I, myself could have disarmed her pretty easily with no weapons at all, and if I'd walked into the room with a baseball bat I damn sure could have disarmed her without killing her. The police went in that room with their only backup plan being to shoot a 17 year old 110 pound girl with a mental illness. Pathetic.
i agree completely - give you a case in point near me, last year. It ended up being called a "justified shooting" but it was totally unnecessary.
Distraught, mentally unbalanced girl threatening suicide goes down to police station. She's 17 years old, weighs maybe 110 pounds, she's out of her mind but if you know anything about psychology, some part of her is still trying to get help, which is why she went to the police station. So she goes in to the lobby, and then goes nuts again and pulls a knife, and starts swinging it. Point 1 - no one else is in the lobby except the attendant, who very quickly exits. At that point, she was contained, all they had to do was lock the doors of that room and wait a few hours till her rage burned out and she collapsed, which was going to happen. (even a coward could have done that) She's not a hardened criminal, she's mentally ill, and its obvious.
BUT instead one of the deputies decides he can't wait, so he goes in to try and make her give up, and they wrassle (dumb) and she pulls out the knife again and somebody shoots her, she's dead, the end. Of course she pulled it, so the ruling is justified.
BUT I watched the video, and given someone her size I'm pretty sure I, myself could have disarmed her pretty easily with no weapons at all, and if I'd walked into the room with a baseball bat I damn sure could have disarmed her without killing her. The police went in that room with their only backup plan being to shoot a 17 year old 110 pound girl with a mental illness. Pathetic.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 15, 2017 12:02 PM (k1TUh)
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Had something like this happened in England or Sweden (or San Francisco), people would go just as apeshit. Yet when teens are raped or people killed, *crickets*.
Or take the black woman that grabbed a Trump voter, tortured and mocked them on video, and was given a small fine.
Or take the black woman that grabbed a Trump voter, tortured and mocked them on video, and was given a small fine.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:02 PM (39g3+)
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229 29 26 What in the holy hell is a Spanx?
Posted by: Under Fire at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (r9UYA)
Butt shapers.
No.
LOL.
They're just body girdles. Holds everything together and gets rid of panty/bra lines. If I wear one with a push up bra, the girls look really really perky to the point where my niece was like, "why do your boobs look so much better than mine." Think spandex body suit.
Once got trapped half way out of one in a dressing room. Almost had to call the fire dept with my foot to extricate me. I'm better at assembly now.
Posted by: Under Fire at December 15, 2017 11:22 AM (r9UYA)
Butt shapers.
No.
LOL.
They're just body girdles. Holds everything together and gets rid of panty/bra lines. If I wear one with a push up bra, the girls look really really perky to the point where my niece was like, "why do your boobs look so much better than mine." Think spandex body suit.
Once got trapped half way out of one in a dressing room. Almost had to call the fire dept with my foot to extricate me. I'm better at assembly now.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:02 PM (eO5CB)
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So if sharks had tits they'd get better treatment? Or would they get worse treatment because of toxic masculinity? I'm confused.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:03 PM (NWiLs)
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Heard Sessions may have wiggled a toe.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:03 PM (eO5CB)
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It is correct. So I have very little interest in the FEELZ of cops, which is what you are arguing.
Your argument is specious.
You might try actually reading what people write sometime.
You are making a moral judgement based on a performance issue, and you are being asked if you understand the technical details of the trade enough to make an informed critique.
I'm not arguing against your critique per se (I haven't seen the video, and I'm happy to assume that assume that you are right in every particular), I'm just pointing out that violence is a trade like any other and asking someone how well they understand the nuances of a trade is not a logical fallacy. Frankly, some of your commentary does suggest that you don't actually understand the reality of policework as opposed to an idealized past.
Also, given how much emotion you are evincing you might want to avoid the "feelz" argument.
Your argument is specious.
You might try actually reading what people write sometime.
You are making a moral judgement based on a performance issue, and you are being asked if you understand the technical details of the trade enough to make an informed critique.
I'm not arguing against your critique per se (I haven't seen the video, and I'm happy to assume that assume that you are right in every particular), I'm just pointing out that violence is a trade like any other and asking someone how well they understand the nuances of a trade is not a logical fallacy. Frankly, some of your commentary does suggest that you don't actually understand the reality of policework as opposed to an idealized past.
Also, given how much emotion you are evincing you might want to avoid the "feelz" argument.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 12:04 PM (bZ7mE)
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Not too far off from the Russian word for 'red.'
Pretty close to the Russian word for "beautiful, too.
Not too far off from the Russian word for 'red.'
Pretty close to the Russian word for "beautiful, too.
Posted by: Thanatopsis at December 15, 2017 12:05 PM (he26Z)
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I always laugh at them using retro themes. I remember an old commercial with a guy appearing in someone's medicine cabinet.
Posted by: mustbequantum
https://youtu.be/8dTEHm8q1eo
I always laugh at them using retro themes. I remember an old commercial with a guy appearing in someone's medicine cabinet.
Posted by: mustbequantum
https://youtu.be/8dTEHm8q1eo
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2017 12:05 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Hillary at December 15, 2017 12:05 PM (FZYNt)
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Well that is the next Sharknado movie - evil scientist creates flying big breasted sharks with laser beams for eyes.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:05 PM (wiubB)
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Brown University's American Studies Department offers a course that uses specific objects "including sugar, milk, vibratorys, and Spanx" as case studies "to critically consider how material culture informs and signals identy."
Crocs, manbuns, J. Crew Messenger Bags, and assless chaps inform and signal identity around here.
Also, apparently Brown University's English Department has not communicated to the American Studies Department the style guidelines concerning splitting infinitives.
Crocs, manbuns, J. Crew Messenger Bags, and assless chaps inform and signal identity around here.
Also, apparently Brown University's English Department has not communicated to the American Studies Department the style guidelines concerning splitting infinitives.
Posted by: @JRandomMoron at December 15, 2017 12:05 PM (ctuyM)
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211 The store window madness is only the beginning of the madness in Philly.
From a job posting for Assistant DA's: "Work with Philadelphia's DA-Elect Larry Krasner. The Philly DA's Office will be among the most progressive in the country with a commitment to ending mass incarceration and cash bail..."
If you recall, Krasner was one of the DA seats that Soros has quietly bought over the past year. We are well and truly fucked
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at December 15, 2017 11:52 AM (mynhJ)
What part of the city are you in? Sounds like we need a beer together.
From a job posting for Assistant DA's: "Work with Philadelphia's DA-Elect Larry Krasner. The Philly DA's Office will be among the most progressive in the country with a commitment to ending mass incarceration and cash bail..."
If you recall, Krasner was one of the DA seats that Soros has quietly bought over the past year. We are well and truly fucked
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at December 15, 2017 11:52 AM (mynhJ)
What part of the city are you in? Sounds like we need a beer together.
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 12:05 PM (7HtZB)
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We make pretty good cops, if I might brag a bit.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (S/hVx)
Why?
Serious question.
[not the bragging part, but the "military make good cops part]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 11:56 AM (wYseH)
First, mil service does a lot of weeding out of the general population, more so if you make it to honorable discharge. Drug screened.
Second, from cradle to grave, you are ingrained with things such as chain of command, adherence to policies and procedures, integrity is beaten into you, you are exposed to stressful situations purposefully to hone your ability to think under pressure, and you may have experience with a great cross section of humanity as you serve.
Third, good people who get out early - before retirement - often do so because they realize they have higher monetary value on the outside.
Those are for starters.
And mil people are almost trainable to a fault.
We make pretty good cops, if I might brag a bit.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (S/hVx)
Why?
Serious question.
[not the bragging part, but the "military make good cops part]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 11:56 AM (wYseH)
First, mil service does a lot of weeding out of the general population, more so if you make it to honorable discharge. Drug screened.
Second, from cradle to grave, you are ingrained with things such as chain of command, adherence to policies and procedures, integrity is beaten into you, you are exposed to stressful situations purposefully to hone your ability to think under pressure, and you may have experience with a great cross section of humanity as you serve.
Third, good people who get out early - before retirement - often do so because they realize they have higher monetary value on the outside.
Those are for starters.
And mil people are almost trainable to a fault.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 12:06 PM (Dp6qK)
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Ironically, the Communications Decency Act should provide that"
That's another fun part - by bringing under the "comm" umbrella, one could argue that content laws would not only apply, but must be enforced by isps...
That's another fun part - by bringing under the "comm" umbrella, one could argue that content laws would not only apply, but must be enforced by isps...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 12:06 PM (MINbv)
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Posted by: Tom Servo at December 15, 2017 12:02 PM (k1TUh)
If this is the incident I'm thinking of its even worse because an officer already had her subdued but then let her up. He could have ended it right then but didn't.
If this is the incident I'm thinking of its even worse because an officer already had her subdued but then let her up. He could have ended it right then but didn't.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:06 PM (NWiLs)
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Spanx is the evil offspring of Spandex and carbon fiber developed in
order to constrain the physical dimensions of the morbidly outsize
Yeah, no. They're for anyone who doesn't want a muffin top or a panty line. Jesus. They also give an extra oomph to your boobies.
order to constrain the physical dimensions of the morbidly outsize
Yeah, no. They're for anyone who doesn't want a muffin top or a panty line. Jesus. They also give an extra oomph to your boobies.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:06 PM (eO5CB)
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I don't think cops wanting to go home safe and alive is "cowardice" in any remotest sense. They are also part of the "public" that they are supposed to protect. Nobody gains if cops are put through a meat grinder without any sense of self preservation.
Its obvious that they do bad stuff sometimes, we've all seen examples. Its obvious that they can be corrupt, lazy, and incompetent. Lately the violations of basic human rights in the name of "its just easier for us" are getting out of control (cameras, etc).
But on the whole I think police officers do a good job, and because of the nature of the job, unfortunately when a bad cop does something wrong, its blown gigantically out of proportion.
When the guy at the lunch counter screws up counting your change or deliberately pockets some of it, that's annoying. When a cop is bent or screws up, people get hurt or die. I get that, and the price for being wrong as a cop should be very high.
But I mean... these guys aren't our enemy.
Its obvious that they do bad stuff sometimes, we've all seen examples. Its obvious that they can be corrupt, lazy, and incompetent. Lately the violations of basic human rights in the name of "its just easier for us" are getting out of control (cameras, etc).
But on the whole I think police officers do a good job, and because of the nature of the job, unfortunately when a bad cop does something wrong, its blown gigantically out of proportion.
When the guy at the lunch counter screws up counting your change or deliberately pockets some of it, that's annoying. When a cop is bent or screws up, people get hurt or die. I get that, and the price for being wrong as a cop should be very high.
But I mean... these guys aren't our enemy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:06 PM (39g3+)
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"I always laugh at them using retro themes. I remember an old commercial with a guy appearing in someone's medicine cabinet.
Posted by: mustbequantum"
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Ahem
Posted by: mustbequantum"
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Ahem
Posted by: Tidey Bowl Man at December 15, 2017 12:06 PM (3BFzK)
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Net Neutrality's name was something from opposite world. Diabolical. dishonest, as the former pres. I would rather not name.
actually, should have been Net (Takeover in the name of) Political Correctness. I'm thrilled it's been thrown out for the tyranny it truly was.
actually, should have been Net (Takeover in the name of) Political Correctness. I'm thrilled it's been thrown out for the tyranny it truly was.
Posted by: booknlass at December 15, 2017 12:06 PM (CXrpl)
Posted by: Rick in SK at December 15, 2017 12:06 PM (FZYNt)
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A few comments about fish, and fishermen -- No one kills the fish when they haul it out of the water. It either is left alive on a stringer, or thrown into a cooler while still alive, to suffocate.
For larger, predatory fish with teeth, you might whack 'em with a club to stun them while you extract the hook.
So, maybe these guys didn't have club and were using the wake waves to stun the shark. Maybe. And maybe they are just assholes. Okay, with their giggling like a bunch of schoolgirls at a fart contest, they were definitely assholes.
But being charged with felony animal abuse? No. Just no. What next, euthanasia kits for all fishes caught? Three drug cocktail injections for crabs before they go into the cooking pot? Where exactly is the desired endpoint here?
No fishing. No hunting. That's where.
Ya know, these hand wringers just might to take a look at what is involved with halal (muslim) butchering. They slit the throat of the animal, and let it bleed to death slowly over hours. It's fully awake during the bleed out.
But drag a fish in your wake is torture. Mmmmmkay.
For larger, predatory fish with teeth, you might whack 'em with a club to stun them while you extract the hook.
So, maybe these guys didn't have club and were using the wake waves to stun the shark. Maybe. And maybe they are just assholes. Okay, with their giggling like a bunch of schoolgirls at a fart contest, they were definitely assholes.
But being charged with felony animal abuse? No. Just no. What next, euthanasia kits for all fishes caught? Three drug cocktail injections for crabs before they go into the cooking pot? Where exactly is the desired endpoint here?
No fishing. No hunting. That's where.
Ya know, these hand wringers just might to take a look at what is involved with halal (muslim) butchering. They slit the throat of the animal, and let it bleed to death slowly over hours. It's fully awake during the bleed out.
But drag a fish in your wake is torture. Mmmmmkay.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 15, 2017 12:06 PM (0ogQG)
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Why does military make good cops?
Because of the system we trained under--duty, honor, country.
Doesn't apply to everyone, obviously--but the vast majority, yes.
The upbringing of these men is responsible, I feel. A means to protect what they grew up believing and living, for future generations.
Most of what I just posted has been gleaned from conversations at various times with the ones who joined the cop club. Condensed a good deal.
Why does military make good cops?
Because of the system we trained under--duty, honor, country.
Doesn't apply to everyone, obviously--but the vast majority, yes.
The upbringing of these men is responsible, I feel. A means to protect what they grew up believing and living, for future generations.
Most of what I just posted has been gleaned from conversations at various times with the ones who joined the cop club. Condensed a good deal.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 15, 2017 12:07 PM (S/hVx)
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Sympathy for sharks.
I shouda seen that coming what with sympathy for polar bears, African Lions, grizzly bears, etc and so forth.
So I guess ice fishing is right out then? I mean, look at the poor walleye, flopping around on the ice, suffocating, slowly freezing to death. We're going to need a humane method for killing fish, not this netting methodology that has been in use for centuries or the hook and line. Probably will have to have a jury trial to justify killing the fish each time.
I shouda seen that coming what with sympathy for polar bears, African Lions, grizzly bears, etc and so forth.
So I guess ice fishing is right out then? I mean, look at the poor walleye, flopping around on the ice, suffocating, slowly freezing to death. We're going to need a humane method for killing fish, not this netting methodology that has been in use for centuries or the hook and line. Probably will have to have a jury trial to justify killing the fish each time.
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 12:07 PM (KdDCu)
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263 Well that is the next Sharknado movie - evil scientist creates flying big breasted sharks with laser beams for eyes.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:05 PM (wiubB)
Gives nurse sharks a whole new connotation.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:05 PM (wiubB)
Gives nurse sharks a whole new connotation.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (NWiLs)
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What I saw, the regulation was about erecting a 'barrier' between service personnel and customers.
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 11:43 AM (KdDCu)
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Corporate-owned convenience stores usually prohibit employees from bringing self-defense items to the store. Immediate termination. Removing the barriers puts defenseless employees in the immediate line of fire during a robbery. I'd quit if I was working in a high-risk area.
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 11:43 AM (KdDCu)
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Corporate-owned convenience stores usually prohibit employees from bringing self-defense items to the store. Immediate termination. Removing the barriers puts defenseless employees in the immediate line of fire during a robbery. I'd quit if I was working in a high-risk area.
Posted by: mrp at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (Pqytn)
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I bet Brown assumes women dress for men (since they're probably lesbians). Women dress for other women, men prefer no "dress" at all. If women "dressed" for men, we wouldn't wear anything but booty shorts and cleavage.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (eO5CB)
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Tidy Bowl Man > Right Guard medicine cabinet guy
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (EzdLW)
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>>Also, sharks are pretty.
>>When you're deciding how much deference to give to an alien life form, like say women, it matters how pretty they are.
Sharks are among the most perfectly evolved animals on the planet. They only do a couple things, swim, eat and make little sharks and they are wonderfully capable of doing those things.
They also have gotten a bad and largely false reputation over the years as crazed killing machines. I used to see them all the time when I was diving in the Carib on a daily basis and was never really threatened.
Don't do stupid stuff and your chances of not being attacked by a shark are pretty damn high. And yea, I think they are gorgeous.
>>When you're deciding how much deference to give to an alien life form, like say women, it matters how pretty they are.
Sharks are among the most perfectly evolved animals on the planet. They only do a couple things, swim, eat and make little sharks and they are wonderfully capable of doing those things.
They also have gotten a bad and largely false reputation over the years as crazed killing machines. I used to see them all the time when I was diving in the Carib on a daily basis and was never really threatened.
Don't do stupid stuff and your chances of not being attacked by a shark are pretty damn high. And yea, I think they are gorgeous.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (/tuJf)
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Many Dennis Prager videos were removed from Youtube under the reign of Net Neutrality"
Well, he's probably rayciss, so that's ok.
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Well, he's probably rayciss, so that's ok.
/
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (MINbv)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (39g3+)
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Pretty close to the Russian word for "beautiful, too.
Krasivouya/krasivaya? (That's my own phonetics, I have no idea how they're written).
I know that the first is for glasa, eyes, and the second is for figura.
Total coincidence that that's about all the Russian I know.
Krasivouya/krasivaya? (That's my own phonetics, I have no idea how they're written).
I know that the first is for glasa, eyes, and the second is for figura.
Total coincidence that that's about all the Russian I know.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (fuK7c)
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279 I bet Brown assumes women dress for men (since they're probably lesbians). Women dress for other women, men prefer no "dress" at all. If women "dressed" for men, we wouldn't wear anything but booty shorts and cleavage.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (eO5CB)
High heels and a smile.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (eO5CB)
High heels and a smile.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (NWiLs)
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>>> Don't want cops tailing you in the store? Get all your homies to stop stealing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:57 AM (39g3+)
This is about me isn't it?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:57 AM (39g3+)
This is about me isn't it?
Posted by: Stupid college basketball kids in a Chinese department store, eying sunglasses at December 15, 2017 12:09 PM (hvf9s)
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My dad called the fish-killin' club a Fish Priest.
When I was a kid I thought it was a name he made up but I later learned that's a thing.
When I was a kid I thought it was a name he made up but I later learned that's a thing.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 12:09 PM (ul9CR)
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"They also give an extra oomph to your boobies.
Posted by: dagny"
I believe that the AoS style guide response has something to do with pictures or it didn't happen.
Posted by: dagny"
I believe that the AoS style guide response has something to do with pictures or it didn't happen.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 15, 2017 12:09 PM (3BFzK)
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Sorry Dagny, I work WalMart so my experience may differ than yours.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:09 PM (wiubB)
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2017 12:09 PM (8bEU0)
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249
Bubblehead powers, activate.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 11:57 AM (Dp6qK)
o_O
How many of us can there possibly be here?
Posted by: hogmartin at December 15, 2017 12:00 PM (y87Qq)
There's SSBN 656 (or something something) guy, also.
Bubblehead powers, activate.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 11:57 AM (Dp6qK)
o_O
How many of us can there possibly be here?
Posted by: hogmartin at December 15, 2017 12:00 PM (y87Qq)
There's SSBN 656 (or something something) guy, also.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 12:09 PM (Dp6qK)
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As someone who has driven a car, I can hopefully ask about the 460 car*/motorcycle wreck deaths since 2007 and 537 shooting deaths.
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/causes.html
* The car wreck one is a serious problem, btw. There's no reason to die in a wreck these days. All I can figure is that they aren't buckled up because of their gear. Or because they get tired of unbuckling every ten minutes.
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/causes.html
* The car wreck one is a serious problem, btw. There's no reason to die in a wreck these days. All I can figure is that they aren't buckled up because of their gear. Or because they get tired of unbuckling every ten minutes.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot. at December 15, 2017 12:10 PM (fsZof)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 15, 2017 12:10 PM (3BFzK)
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>>My dad called the fish-killin' club a Fish Priest.
'Go ahead and give that one his Last Rights.'
'Go ahead and give that one his Last Rights.'
Posted by: Gramps at December 15, 2017 12:11 PM (8bEU0)
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Thanks to net neutrality, the myth that Mythbuster Adam Savage actually knows anything has been debunked.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at December 15, 2017 12:11 PM (e8kgV)
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279
I bet Brown assumes women dress for men (since they're probably lesbians). Women dress for other women, men prefer no "dress" at all. If women "dressed" for men, we wouldn't wear anything but booty shorts and cleavage.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (eO5CB)
Apron and thigh high boots. With accessory sammich.
I bet Brown assumes women dress for men (since they're probably lesbians). Women dress for other women, men prefer no "dress" at all. If women "dressed" for men, we wouldn't wear anything but booty shorts and cleavage.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (eO5CB)
Apron and thigh high boots. With accessory sammich.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 12:11 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2017 12:11 PM (kqsXK)
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Grey Fox at 259: I would encourage you to go watch the video. The two cops were scared shitless, not thinking straight, and screaming conflicting instructions and threats, escalating the situation. Murdered an unarmed man, because they thought he was going to pull an invisible gun from behind, while on his hands and knees, stumbling drunk, and wheel around like Clint Eastwood in Fistful of Dollars.
And no, I'm not a SWAT team member. Just a person with enough common sense to recognize criminal levels of stupidity. The sort of person that should have sat on these two police officers' jury, and convicted them of manslaughter.
And no, I'm not a SWAT team member. Just a person with enough common sense to recognize criminal levels of stupidity. The sort of person that should have sat on these two police officers' jury, and convicted them of manslaughter.
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 15, 2017 12:11 PM (sgHEm)
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That My Pillow guy IS creepy,have you seen his new ad were he appears in peoples bedrooms?
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (LiyEm)
..............
You're sleeping better.
Much better.
And you're looking good.
Feeling good.
I knew you would!
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (LiyEm)
..............
You're sleeping better.
Much better.
And you're looking good.
Feeling good.
I knew you would!
Posted by: wth at December 15, 2017 12:12 PM (HgMAr)
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But being charged with felony animal abuse? No. Just no. What next, euthanasia kits for all fishes caught? Three drug cocktail injections for crabs before they go into the cooking pot? Where exactly is the desired endpoint here?
Yeah exactly. Sharks are monsters, nearly mindless killers. I have no sympathy for them and cannot support making this illegal. They're being childish jerks, which you shame as being wrong, but illegal????
Yeah exactly. Sharks are monsters, nearly mindless killers. I have no sympathy for them and cannot support making this illegal. They're being childish jerks, which you shame as being wrong, but illegal????
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:12 PM (39g3+)
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wtf With this place a a fucking iphone
Posted by: Dang at December 15, 2017 12:12 PM (LaB6M)
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GnuBreed at December 15, 2017 12:06 PM
A shark has to constantly move forward in the water, constantly swimming forward to circulate water through its gills. The gills don't work if the shark is being pulled backwards. (or so I have read. Not an expert on sharks)
I see in the video, they are dragging the shark at high speed, so I see the outrage at the 'torture'.
It is an old trick to drag a shark backwards through the water to kill it.
It is also an old trick to 'guilt trip' some sucker in order to manipulate the sucker. So all y'all feeling sympathy for the shark are being played for suckers.
A shark has to constantly move forward in the water, constantly swimming forward to circulate water through its gills. The gills don't work if the shark is being pulled backwards. (or so I have read. Not an expert on sharks)
I see in the video, they are dragging the shark at high speed, so I see the outrage at the 'torture'.
It is an old trick to drag a shark backwards through the water to kill it.
It is also an old trick to 'guilt trip' some sucker in order to manipulate the sucker. So all y'all feeling sympathy for the shark are being played for suckers.
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 12:12 PM (KdDCu)
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Test.
Posted by: Dang at December 15, 2017 12:12 PM (LaB6M)
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You're sleeping better.
Much better.
And you're looking good.
Feeling good.
I knew you would!
Posted by: wth
does this rag smell like chloroform?
You're sleeping better.
Much better.
And you're looking good.
Feeling good.
I knew you would!
Posted by: wth
does this rag smell like chloroform?
Posted by: Rick in SK at December 15, 2017 12:12 PM (FZYNt)
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Shit, for $750K, I'll make a complaint against the Donald....
Posted by: JoeF. at December 15, 2017 12:12 PM (7uYFy)
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Another fucking test.
Posted by: Dang at December 15, 2017 12:13 PM (LaB6M)
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What part of the city are you in? Sounds like we need a beer together.
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 12:05 PM (7HtZB)
True that. I work in Center City and live in the suburbs
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 12:05 PM (7HtZB)
True that. I work in Center City and live in the suburbs
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at December 15, 2017 12:13 PM (mynhJ)
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'I want McCabe prosecuted for conspiracy to overthrow the government.'
Is there any doubt that the 'insurance plan' was using the dossier to get the FISA warrant?
If there is smoking gun verification of this forthcoming, I think we will see prosecutions. Perhaps quite a few.
Is there any doubt that the 'insurance plan' was using the dossier to get the FISA warrant?
If there is smoking gun verification of this forthcoming, I think we will see prosecutions. Perhaps quite a few.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:13 PM (ALDN3)
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Police, sharks, underwear, internet... it is like the painting in the previous thread.... focus people...
Posted by: kraken at December 15, 2017 12:13 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: only the punchline at December 15, 2017 12:13 PM (FZYNt)
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So can I type more than one sentence or not on this fucking place? Test
Posted by: Dang at December 15, 2017 12:13 PM (LaB6M)
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Me - US Navy
Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2017 12:14 PM (gbWkA)
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>>Yeah exactly. Sharks are monsters, nearly mindless killers. I have no sympathy for them and cannot support making this illegal. They're being childish jerks, which you shame as being wrong, but illegal????
You want sharks in the ocean. Lots of them.
You want sharks in the ocean. Lots of them.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:14 PM (/tuJf)
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Bubblehead powers, activate.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 11:57 AM
-----
o_O
How many of us can there possibly be here?
Posted by: hogmartin at December 15, 2017 12:00 PM
-----
There's SSBN 656 (or something something) guy, also.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 12:09 PM
There's a few of us who eschew cavitation and embrace EBG.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 11:57 AM
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o_O
How many of us can there possibly be here?
Posted by: hogmartin at December 15, 2017 12:00 PM
-----
There's SSBN 656 (or something something) guy, also.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 12:09 PM
There's a few of us who eschew cavitation and embrace EBG.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 15, 2017 12:14 PM (ctuyM)
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293 High heels and a smile.
==
Hats are also acceptable.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 15, 2017 12:10 PM (3BFzK)
Obligatory:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=G55cJrUs9VM
==
Hats are also acceptable.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 15, 2017 12:10 PM (3BFzK)
Obligatory:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=G55cJrUs9VM
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:14 PM (NWiLs)
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"
Police, sharks, underwear, internet... it is like the painting in the previous thread.... focus people..."
=
And making lady parts look better along with women's fashion from a male perspective.
Police, sharks, underwear, internet... it is like the painting in the previous thread.... focus people..."
=
And making lady parts look better along with women's fashion from a male perspective.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 15, 2017 12:14 PM (3BFzK)
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A few comments about fish, and fishermen -- No one kills the fish when they haul it out of the water. It either is left alive on a stringer, or thrown into a cooler while still alive, to suffocate.
You either don't fish or you're the wrong kind.
For big fish fishermen use a "priest", which is the name for a cudgel meant to whack a fish's head to kill it swiftly. If you're going to kill a small trout you put a knife blade between its eyes and carve toward the brain stem to ensure as little misery as possible.
The saying among the hook and bullet set is "sportsmanship is what you do when no one is looking".
You either don't fish or you're the wrong kind.
For big fish fishermen use a "priest", which is the name for a cudgel meant to whack a fish's head to kill it swiftly. If you're going to kill a small trout you put a knife blade between its eyes and carve toward the brain stem to ensure as little misery as possible.
The saying among the hook and bullet set is "sportsmanship is what you do when no one is looking".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 12:15 PM (fuK7c)
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My biggest concern about the internet right now is how the biggest content providers are censoring and demonetizing things they determine to be politically incorrect. Not wrong, not objectively offensive, not sexual content, but just "your political opinion is unwelcome." And Twitter's idiotic council on removing bad speech from the site is even worse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:00 PM (39g3+)
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"Comments can be bad for science. That's why, here at PopularScience.com, we're shutting them off."
https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-09/
why-were-shutting-our-comments
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:00 PM (39g3+)
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"Comments can be bad for science. That's why, here at PopularScience.com, we're shutting them off."
https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-09/
why-were-shutting-our-comments
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot. at December 15, 2017 12:15 PM (fsZof)
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It is also an old trick to 'guilt trip' some sucker in order to manipulate the sucker. So all y'all feeling sympathy for the shark are being played for suckers.
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 12:12 PM (KdDCu)
Yup.......worked for me.
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 12:12 PM (KdDCu)
Yup.......worked for me.
Posted by: Saint Doug Jones at December 15, 2017 12:15 PM (EoRCO)
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>>It is an old trick to drag a shark backwards through the water to kill it.
Yep. Also to slice its gills to bleed it.
You Do NOT want a Live Shark On-Board.
Holy shit does THAT not end well!
It's a fish. They don't have feelings.
Yep. Also to slice its gills to bleed it.
You Do NOT want a Live Shark On-Board.
Holy shit does THAT not end well!
It's a fish. They don't have feelings.
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2017 12:15 PM (8bEU0)
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I didn't really feel much watching the video. I think I only feel sympathetic towards warm blooded animals.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 15, 2017 12:15 PM (/qEW2)
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307 What part of the city are you in? Sounds like we need a beer together.
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 12:05 PM (7HtZB)
True that. I work in Center City and live in the suburbs
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at December 15, 2017 12:13 PM (mynhJ)
I live in the NW arm of the city & work in MontCo.
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 12:05 PM (7HtZB)
True that. I work in Center City and live in the suburbs
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at December 15, 2017 12:13 PM (mynhJ)
I live in the NW arm of the city & work in MontCo.
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 12:15 PM (7HtZB)
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Do they have to be female boobs?
Could they have had fur?
Asking for a cousin back home in Alabama.
Could they have had fur?
Asking for a cousin back home in Alabama.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 15, 2017 12:15 PM (tRaq7)
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That lisa bloom story is a big nothingburger. Who doesn't know that big name lawyers do that all the time to score clients?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 15, 2017 12:16 PM (k1TUh)
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you get two test tickles
Posted by: only the punchline at December 15, 2017 12:13 PM
Do you have more information?
Asking for some friends.
Posted by: only the punchline at December 15, 2017 12:13 PM
Do you have more information?
Asking for some friends.
Posted by: GOPe at December 15, 2017 12:16 PM (ctuyM)
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Amazon has Hai Karate, English Leather, and British Sterling available. For the moron who wants to re-live that 1970s pre Ron Jeremy era.....
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 12:16 PM (m7LQK)
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Thanks to net neutrality, the myth that Mythbuster Adam Savage actually knows anything has been debunked.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at December 15, 2017 12:11 PM (e8kgV)
I saw that. My opinion of him dropped significantly.
Thanks to net neutrality, the myth that Mythbuster Adam Savage actually knows anything has been debunked.
Posted by: undocumented illegal SMOD at December 15, 2017 12:11 PM (e8kgV)
I saw that. My opinion of him dropped significantly.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 12:16 PM (Dp6qK)
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I my experience here in the close-in DC metro, there are no english speakers anywhere in walmart. It's not fat people, it's 4'10" perfectly round people who last shopped at the "indigeneous" SA kiosk.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:17 PM (eO5CB)
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Christopher R Taylor at 270: I think it's perfectly normal for someone to want to go home safe at the end of his shift.
But I think we need people who are a little more courageous and self-sacrificing than us normal people, to be policemen and firefighters. And probably 95% of them are courageous and self-sacrificing.
The other 5% keep shooting unarmed men who tried to scratch their ass or adjust their package at the wrong moment.
But I think we need people who are a little more courageous and self-sacrificing than us normal people, to be policemen and firefighters. And probably 95% of them are courageous and self-sacrificing.
The other 5% keep shooting unarmed men who tried to scratch their ass or adjust their package at the wrong moment.
Posted by: Pastafarian at December 15, 2017 12:17 PM (sgHEm)
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 12:17 PM (EzdLW)
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High heels and a smile.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (NWiLs)
The director Dennis Powell once said, "I have always had a special respect for Kathleen ever since she pulled a gun on me. It was a revolver, a big one, US Army issue, and it was loaded. A naked woman and a loaded gun are persuasive objects."
"Kathleen" is the actress Kathleen Byron, probably best known as the twisted Sister Ruth in 1947s Black Narcissus.
https://tinyurl.com/y7x566d2
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (NWiLs)
The director Dennis Powell once said, "I have always had a special respect for Kathleen ever since she pulled a gun on me. It was a revolver, a big one, US Army issue, and it was loaded. A naked woman and a loaded gun are persuasive objects."
"Kathleen" is the actress Kathleen Byron, probably best known as the twisted Sister Ruth in 1947s Black Narcissus.
https://tinyurl.com/y7x566d2
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2017 12:17 PM (kqsXK)
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There's a few of us who eschew cavitation and embrace EBG.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 15, 2017 12:14 PM (ctuyM)
I still have a case of green books and a few rolls of EB green in the basement. Those fabric deck log books? Like $45 each on Amazon. I'm not selling.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 15, 2017 12:14 PM (ctuyM)
I still have a case of green books and a few rolls of EB green in the basement. Those fabric deck log books? Like $45 each on Amazon. I'm not selling.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 15, 2017 12:17 PM (y87Qq)
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My Pillow > toaster
Posted by: wth at December 15, 2017 12:18 PM (HgMAr)
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They aren't your friend, either.
Some of them are. I mean, there are cops that post here. Only a small number are terrible, and a larger number are just meh at their job like most jobs. But I've known quite a few over the years and they aren't monsters.
Some of them are. I mean, there are cops that post here. Only a small number are terrible, and a larger number are just meh at their job like most jobs. But I've known quite a few over the years and they aren't monsters.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:18 PM (39g3+)
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Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
Simple solution: take out bullet-proof glass, replace with armor plate, and provide two-way video link and pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
Simple solution: take out bullet-proof glass, replace with armor plate, and provide two-way video link and pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:18 PM (oPNmq)
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The director Dennis Powell once said, "I have always had a special respect for Kathleen ever since she pulled a gun on me. It was a revolver, a big one, US Army issue, and it was loaded. A naked woman and a loaded gun are persuasive objects."
Indeed they are.
Indeed they are.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:18 PM (NWiLs)
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Thursday Night Football Ratings Tumble To Season Low With Broncos Win
I forgot there even was a game.
I forgot there even was a game.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 12:18 PM (5y11N)
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If I'm honest, the most annoying thing about Spanx is the fact I didn't think of it first. Modern shapewear that women will pay huge bucks for? I missed the boat on that one!
There was a commercial a while ago that interviewed the founder of Spanx. She said one of the most important things she learned from her parents at the dinner table was not to be afraid of failure. Conquering that allowed her to go forward and build her idea into the company that it is today.
Yeah, I suspect she's a raging lib what voted for Hilary. But it was inspirational nonetheless!
There was a commercial a while ago that interviewed the founder of Spanx. She said one of the most important things she learned from her parents at the dinner table was not to be afraid of failure. Conquering that allowed her to go forward and build her idea into the company that it is today.
Yeah, I suspect she's a raging lib what voted for Hilary. But it was inspirational nonetheless!
Posted by: LizLem at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Rick in SK at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (FZYNt)
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They're being childish jerks"
Likely. Old guy rant here, but why, oh why does everyone seemingly want to film themselves all of the f'ing time???
I'm onboard and it's "whoops. Sorry 'bout that, but got hit by a wave. Sucks, huh?"
Dimwaffles.
Likely. Old guy rant here, but why, oh why does everyone seemingly want to film themselves all of the f'ing time???
I'm onboard and it's "whoops. Sorry 'bout that, but got hit by a wave. Sucks, huh?"
Dimwaffles.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (MINbv)
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Bruce Ohr to testify before Congress on Monday.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (/tuJf)
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You Do NOT want a Live Shark On-Board.
Holy shit does THAT not end well!
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I've heard before that sometimes they can survive a several hours out of water. So you assume they're dead, and the next thing you know you lose your leg.
Holy shit does THAT not end well!
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I've heard before that sometimes they can survive a several hours out of water. So you assume they're dead, and the next thing you know you lose your leg.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (/qEW2)
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329 Pastafarian
Hiring and promotion standards have dropped like a rock for police and fireman (and the military) because ... diversity. Since 2008, especially.
"Diversity" is more important than merit.
Hiring and promotion standards have dropped like a rock for police and fireman (and the military) because ... diversity. Since 2008, especially.
"Diversity" is more important than merit.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (hyuyC)
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'They also have gotten a bad and largely false reputation over the years as crazed killing machines. '
They're not crazed, but they are indeed killing machines. Like all killers, not that bright (the meme about the 'wise old owl' is very far from the truth; raptors are like flying sharks).
They're not wired to attack people, so when they do it is usually accidental. It is thought that some species, such as those in the Lamniformes and Carcharhiniformes, can learn from this and become maneaters. Oddly enough the biggest sharks are plankton filter-feeders and harmless.
Your advice is well taken. Just like any wild animal, behave with appropriate caution.
They're not crazed, but they are indeed killing machines. Like all killers, not that bright (the meme about the 'wise old owl' is very far from the truth; raptors are like flying sharks).
They're not wired to attack people, so when they do it is usually accidental. It is thought that some species, such as those in the Lamniformes and Carcharhiniformes, can learn from this and become maneaters. Oddly enough the biggest sharks are plankton filter-feeders and harmless.
Your advice is well taken. Just like any wild animal, behave with appropriate caution.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (ALDN3)
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324 That lisa bloom story is a big nothingburger. Who doesn't know that big name lawyers do that all the time to score clients?
Uh, no... The big part of the story is when one of the "victims" refused to go along and the "donor" took back the money
Uh, no... The big part of the story is when one of the "victims" refused to go along and the "donor" took back the money
Posted by: It's me donna at December 15, 2017 12:20 PM (O2RFr)
346
Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
Simple solution: take out bullet-proof glass, replace with armor plate, and provide two-way video link and pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:18 PM (oPNmq)
Or close the stores and make the indiginous population travel 20 miles for what they need to buy.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
Simple solution: take out bullet-proof glass, replace with armor plate, and provide two-way video link and pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:18 PM (oPNmq)
Or close the stores and make the indiginous population travel 20 miles for what they need to buy.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 12:20 PM (5y11N)
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>>Some of them are. I mean, there are cops that post here.
Yep.
But I am not talking about people I know who are Police Officers...I am talking about Cops.
Yep.
But I am not talking about people I know who are Police Officers...I am talking about Cops.
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2017 12:20 PM (8bEU0)
348
dagny at December 15, 2017 12:02 PM (eO5CB)
And do you respond that 29 is the height of feminine beauty?
And do you respond that 29 is the height of feminine beauty?
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at December 15, 2017 12:20 PM (Vzqe+)
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Lamniformes and Carcharhiniformes
Which must be filled out in triplicate and returned to the quartermaster, but only on alternating Tuesdays.
Which must be filled out in triplicate and returned to the quartermaster, but only on alternating Tuesdays.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:20 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Jeff Sessions Glee Club at December 15, 2017 12:20 PM (r9UYA)
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Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
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Next issue is Philly will be a desert of liquor stores.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
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Next issue is Philly will be a desert of liquor stores.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 15, 2017 12:20 PM (3BFzK)
352
Ohr to testify before Congress on Monday.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (/tuJf)
Well he was pretty good hockey player in his day. Go Bruins
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (/tuJf)
Well he was pretty good hockey player in his day. Go Bruins
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 12:21 PM (5y11N)
353
Simple solution: take out bullet-proof glass,
replace with armor plate, and provide two-way video link and
pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:18 PM (oPNmq)
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Remove the clerks. Replace with kiosks and armored payment consoles. Your card doesn't work, or your bills are torn? Too bad.
Simple solution: take out bullet-proof glass,
replace with armor plate, and provide two-way video link and
pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:18 PM (oPNmq)
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Remove the clerks. Replace with kiosks and armored payment consoles. Your card doesn't work, or your bills are torn? Too bad.
Posted by: mrp at December 15, 2017 12:21 PM (Pqytn)
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345 324 That lisa bloom story is a big nothingburger. Who doesn't know that big name lawyers do that all the time to score clients?
Uh, no... The big part of the story is when one of the "victims" refused to go along and the "donor" took back the money
Posted by: It's me donna at December 15, 2017 12:20 PM (O2RFr)
The moral of the story is if you're willing to be bought, stay bought.
Uh, no... The big part of the story is when one of the "victims" refused to go along and the "donor" took back the money
Posted by: It's me donna at December 15, 2017 12:20 PM (O2RFr)
The moral of the story is if you're willing to be bought, stay bought.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:21 PM (NWiLs)
355
"Stuff your credentialism up your ass"???!
When I got out of Evergreen College, I was fully capable of putting my own fist up my ass, but I thought something more was needed, so I did a decade and a half of live internet porn. I like to think I know something about sticking stuff up my ass. Have I seen you with a 2 liter bottle, CBD?
When I got out of Evergreen College, I was fully capable of putting my own fist up my ass, but I thought something more was needed, so I did a decade and a half of live internet porn. I like to think I know something about sticking stuff up my ass. Have I seen you with a 2 liter bottle, CBD?
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2017 12:21 PM (CPk08)
356
'Thursday Night Football Ratings Tumble To Season Low With Broncos Win
I forgot there even was a game.'
Thursday night games will be gone soon. Along with Goodell. And hopefully soon the entire league.
I forgot there even was a game.'
Thursday night games will be gone soon. Along with Goodell. And hopefully soon the entire league.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:21 PM (ALDN3)
Posted by: It's me donna at December 15, 2017 12:21 PM (O2RFr)
358
Re: Spanx - a friend of mine got an email from them with the headline: Fill Your Cups with Joy This Bra-liday Season!
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at December 15, 2017 12:22 PM (q3Vs8)
359
Cops are a necessary evil unfortunately. I think the cop of yore was more likely to just want to keep the peace though, and not "create crime." The "gotcha" shit pisses people off. That's most likely the fault of the "system" including legislatures, but still.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:22 PM (eO5CB)
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331 High heels and a smile.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (NWiLs)
The director Dennis Powell once said, "I have always had a special respect for Kathleen ever since she pulled a gun on me. It was a revolver, a big one, US Army issue, and it was loaded. A naked woman and a loaded gun are persuasive objects."
"Kathleen" is the actress Kathleen Byron, probably best known as the twisted Sister Ruth in 1947s Black Narcissus.
https://tinyurl.com/y7x566d2
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2017 12:17 PM (kqsXK)
I can call to mind a photo set I saw online of a woman, birthday suit & heels, at the gun range.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:08 PM (NWiLs)
The director Dennis Powell once said, "I have always had a special respect for Kathleen ever since she pulled a gun on me. It was a revolver, a big one, US Army issue, and it was loaded. A naked woman and a loaded gun are persuasive objects."
"Kathleen" is the actress Kathleen Byron, probably best known as the twisted Sister Ruth in 1947s Black Narcissus.
https://tinyurl.com/y7x566d2
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2017 12:17 PM (kqsXK)
I can call to mind a photo set I saw online of a woman, birthday suit & heels, at the gun range.
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 12:22 PM (7HtZB)
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>>That lisa bloom story is a big nothingburger. Who doesn't know that big name lawyers do that all the time to score clients?
Seeing exactly how Bloom using victims for political purposes is ugly.
To me, it destroys their claims of just wanting justice when you see the details of the negotiations, and who was funding it, and also how Bloom was obsessed with a timeline (i.e. for political damage).
This game only works if the MSM and Dems can pretend to care about the victims
Seeing exactly how Bloom using victims for political purposes is ugly.
To me, it destroys their claims of just wanting justice when you see the details of the negotiations, and who was funding it, and also how Bloom was obsessed with a timeline (i.e. for political damage).
This game only works if the MSM and Dems can pretend to care about the victims
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2017 12:22 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: tu3031 at December 15, 2017 12:22 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 12:23 PM (MINbv)
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"Diversity" is more important than merit. Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (hyuyC)
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Keep an eye on MN shooting of the Australian lady in her pjs.
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Keep an eye on MN shooting of the Australian lady in her pjs.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2017 12:23 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:23 PM (wiubB)
366
If I'm honest, the most annoying thing about Spanx is the fact I didn't think of it first.
Alex has a story about that that I'll probably get wrong. The girl who thought of Spanx was looking for someone to manufacture them. Some textile plant with excess capacity looked at it and didn't get it. She couldn't afford to pay for the run so the textile guy got a piece of the equity.
Everyone got rich.
Alex has a story about that that I'll probably get wrong. The girl who thought of Spanx was looking for someone to manufacture them. Some textile plant with excess capacity looked at it and didn't get it. She couldn't afford to pay for the run so the textile guy got a piece of the equity.
Everyone got rich.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 12:23 PM (fuK7c)
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335
Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
Simple solution: take out bullet-proof glass, replace with armor plate, and provide two-way video link and pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:18 PM (oPNmq)
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Huzzah! The free market routes around legislation. And I suspect that it might be cheaper that custom bullet proof glass.
These idiots make it almost to easy to disrespect their authority.
Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
Simple solution: take out bullet-proof glass, replace with armor plate, and provide two-way video link and pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:18 PM (oPNmq)
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Huzzah! The free market routes around legislation. And I suspect that it might be cheaper that custom bullet proof glass.
These idiots make it almost to easy to disrespect their authority.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 12:24 PM (Dp6qK)
368
'replace with armor plate, and provide two-way video link and
pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.'
This will happen, or something similar. The Koreans aren't going to expose themselves to the dangers of the urban safari.
Perhaps they can use the old pneumatic tube system.
pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.'
This will happen, or something similar. The Koreans aren't going to expose themselves to the dangers of the urban safari.
Perhaps they can use the old pneumatic tube system.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:24 PM (ALDN3)
369
Keep an eye on MN shooting of the Australian lady in her pjs.
No charges have been filed and time is running out to do so
No charges have been filed and time is running out to do so
Posted by: It's me donna at December 15, 2017 12:24 PM (O2RFr)
370
359 Cops are a necessary evil unfortunately. I think the cop of yore was more likely to just want to keep the peace though, and not "create crime." The "gotcha" shit pisses people off. That's most likely the fault of the "system" including legislatures, but still.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:22 PM (eO5CB)
*coughWarOnDrugscough*
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:22 PM (eO5CB)
*coughWarOnDrugscough*
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:24 PM (NWiLs)
371
>>I've heard before that sometimes they can survive a several hours out of water. So you assume they're dead, and the next thing you know you lose your leg.
If they aren't dead when they hit the deck, whoa boy...
they will seriously fuck you AND the boat up.
You don't toy with sharks.
If you are gonna harvest them, you want to kill them quickly and get them bled out completely.
That said, I let'em go. I just want to fight them on the line then go home and eat an ungulate.
If they aren't dead when they hit the deck, whoa boy...
they will seriously fuck you AND the boat up.
You don't toy with sharks.
If you are gonna harvest them, you want to kill them quickly and get them bled out completely.
That said, I let'em go. I just want to fight them on the line then go home and eat an ungulate.
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2017 12:24 PM (8bEU0)
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>>They're not wired to attack people, so when they do it is usually accidental.
Or when their environment is disturbed or changed.
As garrett noted, you do not want a live shark on-board. That will not end well. They will fight when disturbed and they fight with their mouths and very strong bodies. If you did nothing but swim all day think how strong you would be.
Sharks help keep the ocean in balance. Wanton killing of them is idiotic and will produce the infamous unintended consequences.
Or when their environment is disturbed or changed.
As garrett noted, you do not want a live shark on-board. That will not end well. They will fight when disturbed and they fight with their mouths and very strong bodies. If you did nothing but swim all day think how strong you would be.
Sharks help keep the ocean in balance. Wanton killing of them is idiotic and will produce the infamous unintended consequences.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:24 PM (/tuJf)
373
Ohr to testify before Congress on Monday.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (/tuJf)
Well he was pretty good hockey player in his day. Go Bruins
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 12:21 PM (5y11N)
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Wait wut??? I thought he was an offensive tackle with the Ravens and starred in a movie with Sandra Bullock???
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (/tuJf)
Well he was pretty good hockey player in his day. Go Bruins
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 12:21 PM (5y11N)
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Wait wut??? I thought he was an offensive tackle with the Ravens and starred in a movie with Sandra Bullock???
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2017 12:24 PM (8XRCm)
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'That lisa bloom story is a big nothingburger. Who doesn't know that big name lawyers do that all the time to score clients?'
Trump has been dealing with that sort of thing since way before he became President.
Trump has been dealing with that sort of thing since way before he became President.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:24 PM (ALDN3)
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Why do you think they do that to you? I've noticed
that the Costco people examine the receipt when one of my sons has it
and barely look at me. I could steal them blind.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (eO5CB)
Shoplifting is a "sport" amongst kids of a certain age. If your sons are young enough to treated as "young offenders" in court, it means there is no effective legal punishment for them, so less of a brake on potential bad actions by teens.
that the Costco people examine the receipt when one of my sons has it
and barely look at me. I could steal them blind.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 11:41 AM (eO5CB)
Shoplifting is a "sport" amongst kids of a certain age. If your sons are young enough to treated as "young offenders" in court, it means there is no effective legal punishment for them, so less of a brake on potential bad actions by teens.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (oPNmq)
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Sharks are impressive creatures and JackStraw summed them up well. Given the option I prefer that only the smaller varieties are around during a dive - not "business" sharks (those with capability/pattern of being a problem or a threat).
Only saw big ones one time - Borneo, big hammer-heads. Spooky critters, but had not interest in us.
But I am disappointed that, in this day and age, I can't seem to arrange some frickin' sharks with laser beams attached to their heads. Don't understand that.
Only saw big ones one time - Borneo, big hammer-heads. Spooky critters, but had not interest in us.
But I am disappointed that, in this day and age, I can't seem to arrange some frickin' sharks with laser beams attached to their heads. Don't understand that.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (QX0Xt)
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Day One ANN (after net neutrality):
Facebooktown will trade bullets and gasoline for memes with cute animals.
Facebooktown will trade bullets and gasoline for memes with cute animals.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (rnAwa)
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Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (wiubB)
Do a lot of people here speak Russian? I came to America from SU back in 1989.
Do a lot of people here speak Russian? I came to America from SU back in 1989.
Posted by: Moses at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (I1YPs)
379
Oh my.
Based Mike Tyson calls Hillary a serial killer. And gives examples:
https://tinyurl.com/ybpdzklr
Based Mike Tyson calls Hillary a serial killer. And gives examples:
https://tinyurl.com/ybpdzklr
Posted by: shibumi at December 15, 2017 12:26 PM (aT+Bx)
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225 It depends a lot what part of the store or what your shop is. If you have a candy store, then little kids are your primary suspects. Its just common sense; you watch out for who is most likely to steal from you, based on experience, history, and data.
Don't want cops tailing you in the store? Get all your homies to stop stealing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:57 AM (39g3+)
I'm half-black, and get tailed all the time in ever store.
While I do think I deserve it due to all the black thuggery, I do not like the implication that the thugs are my "homies".
Don't want cops tailing you in the store? Get all your homies to stop stealing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 11:57 AM (39g3+)
I'm half-black, and get tailed all the time in ever store.
While I do think I deserve it due to all the black thuggery, I do not like the implication that the thugs are my "homies".
Posted by: Hikaru at December 15, 2017 12:26 PM (WDCYi)
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317 bandersnatch sez
You either don't fish or you're the wrong kind.
Well, I guess I wasn't properly instructed then. Oh well.
Say, does this rule apply to crabs too? Do you mercy kill them also? Crawfish? Shrimp? Got a special little tool for stabbing them behind the eyestalks? Cuz I failed to mercy kill any of them as well.
Damn, I'm ignorant on this stuff. Behind the curve.
Enlighten me.
You either don't fish or you're the wrong kind.
Well, I guess I wasn't properly instructed then. Oh well.
Say, does this rule apply to crabs too? Do you mercy kill them also? Crawfish? Shrimp? Got a special little tool for stabbing them behind the eyestalks? Cuz I failed to mercy kill any of them as well.
Damn, I'm ignorant on this stuff. Behind the curve.
Enlighten me.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 15, 2017 12:26 PM (0ogQG)
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>>The moral of the story is if you're willing to be bought, stay bought.
I liked the part about the victim negotiating an initial offer of $10K compensation all the way up to a request for $2 million. Looks like she saw it as a game, see how much she can get Bloom and others to commit to, then go to The Hill and share all the gory details.
I liked the part about the victim negotiating an initial offer of $10K compensation all the way up to a request for $2 million. Looks like she saw it as a game, see how much she can get Bloom and others to commit to, then go to The Hill and share all the gory details.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2017 12:26 PM (W+vEI)
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The problem with the Lisa Bloom story is that it never progressed to any actual legal case being filed, so it's skanky and cheesy but I'm not sure she even broke any state bar regulations. Although there is an implication that she might pay for a made-up story, that was never stated openly.
And if the girl busted a deal with her, she even had the right to take the money back.
Bust a deal, face the wheel.
And if the girl busted a deal with her, she even had the right to take the money back.
Bust a deal, face the wheel.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 15, 2017 12:26 PM (k1TUh)
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294 >>My dad called the fish-killin' club a Fish Priest.
'Go ahead and give that one his Last Rights.'
Posted by: Gramps at December 15, 2017 12:11 PM (8bEU0)
Fighting the rodent wars here (a big "thank you" to the neighbor who lets his fruit trees drop the fruit attracts them) whenever I nailed one I said a few words over him.
Is "gotcha" one word or two?
'Go ahead and give that one his Last Rights.'
Posted by: Gramps at December 15, 2017 12:11 PM (8bEU0)
Fighting the rodent wars here (a big "thank you" to the neighbor who lets his fruit trees drop the fruit attracts them) whenever I nailed one I said a few words over him.
Is "gotcha" one word or two?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2017 12:27 PM (W4DyD)
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I've heard before that sometimes they can survive a several hours out of water. So you assume they're dead, and the next thing you know you lose your leg.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (/qEW2)
My favorite photo from the 1947 Kon Tiki expedition:
http://theoceanvoyager.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/kon-tiki-sharks.jpg
The balls on those guys.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 15, 2017 12:19 PM (/qEW2)
My favorite photo from the 1947 Kon Tiki expedition:
http://theoceanvoyager.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/kon-tiki-sharks.jpg
The balls on those guys.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 15, 2017 12:27 PM (BfOXk)
386
Still no charges have been filed against Noor or his partner in the killing of Justine Damond.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:27 PM (wiubB)
387
378 Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 11:53 AM (wiubB)
Do a lot of people here speak Russian? I came to America from SU back in 1989.
Posted by: Moses at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (I1YPs)
There are a couple who speak jive.
Do a lot of people here speak Russian? I came to America from SU back in 1989.
Posted by: Moses at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (I1YPs)
There are a couple who speak jive.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:27 PM (NWiLs)
388
386 Still no charges have been filed against Noor or his partner in the killing of Justine Damond.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:27 PM (wiubB)
It's not a crime for Muslims to kill people. It's part of their culture.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:27 PM (wiubB)
It's not a crime for Muslims to kill people. It's part of their culture.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (WDCYi)
389
Shoplifting is a "sport" amongst kids of a certain
age. If your sons are young enough to treated as "young offenders" in
court, it means there is no effective legal punishment for them, so less
of a brake on potential bad actions by teens. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (oPNmq)
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Dickensian.
age. If your sons are young enough to treated as "young offenders" in
court, it means there is no effective legal punishment for them, so less
of a brake on potential bad actions by teens. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (oPNmq)
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Dickensian.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (MIKMs)
390
I see lisa bloom is in the news again. The Hill has a story about her soliciting
$$$$$ from democrats to reimburse women to tell their stories about being sexually harassed by Trump.
She claims she gave them financial assistance because they lost income after accusing Trump.
Riiiight.
$$$$$ from democrats to reimburse women to tell their stories about being sexually harassed by Trump.
She claims she gave them financial assistance because they lost income after accusing Trump.
Riiiight.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (+Dllb)
391
Fighting the rodent wars here (a big "thank you" to the neighbor who lets his fruit trees drop the fruit attracts them) whenever I nailed one I said a few words over him.
Is "gotcha" one word or two?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
One, since it's a contraction of "got you".
Is "gotcha" one word or two?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
One, since it's a contraction of "got you".
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (GjTLE)
392
Have I seen you with a 2 liter bottle, CBD?
2 liter bottles? Oh, sweetie, you need to expand your "horizons."
2 liter bottles? Oh, sweetie, you need to expand your "horizons."
Posted by: Shep Smith at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (IcT7t)
393
Do a lot of people here speak Russian? I came to America from SU back in 1989.
Posted by: Moses at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (I1YPs)
I sometimes think in Russian.
Posted by: Moses at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (I1YPs)
I sometimes think in Russian.
Posted by: Clint Eastwood at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (y87Qq)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (3BFzK)
395
Damn, I'm ignorant on this stuff. Behind the curve.
Enlighten me."
Well, my preference for sharks is an axe. Or gun. Either way, fewer sharks around me, the better. Kinda like the guys from the Indianapolis...
Enlighten me."
Well, my preference for sharks is an axe. Or gun. Either way, fewer sharks around me, the better. Kinda like the guys from the Indianapolis...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (MINbv)
396
Based Mike Tyson calls Hillary a serial killer. And gives examples:
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"Do you know how many of her personal bodyguards have died deaths of a premature nature?
Twelve. Twelve young men in close proximity to the Clinton's have died premature. This information is all out there. You can look this up yourself. All of these bodyguards are indeed dead and it might all just be a tragic coincidence. Now I don't know about you but I wouldn't want to be on their list of associates."
Go get her Mike.
Based Mike Tyson calls Hillary a serial killer. And gives examples:
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"Do you know how many of her personal bodyguards have died deaths of a premature nature?
Twelve. Twelve young men in close proximity to the Clinton's have died premature. This information is all out there. You can look this up yourself. All of these bodyguards are indeed dead and it might all just be a tragic coincidence. Now I don't know about you but I wouldn't want to be on their list of associates."
Go get her Mike.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (8XRCm)
397
'I think I only feel sympathetic towards warm blooded animals.'
Some sharks have evolved homeothermy. Many are also viviparous (placental) in their reproduction, which is a rather advanced trait.
Some sharks have evolved homeothermy. Many are also viviparous (placental) in their reproduction, which is a rather advanced trait.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (ALDN3)
398
But I am disappointed that, in this day and age, I can't seem to arrange some frickin' sharks with laser beams attached to their heads. Don't understand that.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (QX0Xt)
Under DARPA project at Shark Propulsion Laboratory/Lockheed SharkWorks..
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (QX0Xt)
Under DARPA project at Shark Propulsion Laboratory/Lockheed SharkWorks..
Posted by: Miklos, a Molnar at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (zCyNd)
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Still no charges have been filed against Noor or his partner in the killing of Justine Damond.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:27 PM (wiubB)
Is that the muslim cop that shot a unarmed women in the midwest somewhere from his passenger car seat in the cop car?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:27 PM (wiubB)
Is that the muslim cop that shot a unarmed women in the midwest somewhere from his passenger car seat in the cop car?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 12:29 PM (5y11N)
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386 Still no charges have been filed against Noor or his partner in the killing of Justine Damond.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:27 PM (wiubB)
How dare you speak ill of our heroes in blue! Why do you hate police officers? Why do you hate America?!
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:27 PM (wiubB)
How dare you speak ill of our heroes in blue! Why do you hate police officers? Why do you hate America?!
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:29 PM (NWiLs)
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So per the morning report, the head of the Congressional Ethics Office got drunk, and sexually and physically assaulted two women in a bar.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2017 12:29 PM (jVm2N)
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re: CBD's reference to his wednesday thread about cops.
I have to say -- and I've been saying this for years -- cops and their "department policies" in this country really are out of control.
I'm a white kid who has lived in suburbia and cities (and now more rural-y suburbia) and most interactions I've had with cops have been fucking terrifying.
Don't get me wrong, some have been good. But I've had more than one tatted up, shaved head lunatic in uniform screaming in my face. It's fucking terrifying. And it's hard to act rationally when an armed guy is screaming threats at you.
...And I'm talking about during interactions regarding over underage drinking and minor traffic violations.
I have to say -- and I've been saying this for years -- cops and their "department policies" in this country really are out of control.
I'm a white kid who has lived in suburbia and cities (and now more rural-y suburbia) and most interactions I've had with cops have been fucking terrifying.
Don't get me wrong, some have been good. But I've had more than one tatted up, shaved head lunatic in uniform screaming in my face. It's fucking terrifying. And it's hard to act rationally when an armed guy is screaming threats at you.
...And I'm talking about during interactions regarding over underage drinking and minor traffic violations.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:29 PM (wmaTe)
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2 liter bottles? Oh, sweetie, you need to expand your "horizons."
Posted by: Shep Smith at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (IcT7t)
A
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Posted by: Shep Smith at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (IcT7t)
A
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Choor
Posted by: goatse guy at December 15, 2017 12:30 PM (CPk08)
404
Hell, why not post all the pictures of the Kon Tiki expedition?
https://tinyurl.com/Kon-Tiki-Bad-Assery
A nice palate cleanser of 6 non-snowflakes against the sea.
https://tinyurl.com/Kon-Tiki-Bad-Assery
A nice palate cleanser of 6 non-snowflakes against the sea.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 15, 2017 12:30 PM (BfOXk)
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So per the morning report, the head of the Congressional Ethics Office got drunk, and sexually and physically assaulted two women in a bar.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2017 12:29 PM (jVm2N)
Well he was obviously only doing research for his job?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2017 12:29 PM (jVm2N)
Well he was obviously only doing research for his job?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 12:30 PM (5y11N)
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>>That said, I let'em go. I just want to fight them on the line then go home and eat an ungulate.
We were out tuna fishing a couple years ago and noticed we had attracted a 10 foot mako. We quickly spooled up the shark rigs and went after it.
We got him to the boat and all of us kind of looked at each other and made the wise decision to cut the wire.
Then we went back to drinking beer, catching tuna and eating sushi.
We were out tuna fishing a couple years ago and noticed we had attracted a 10 foot mako. We quickly spooled up the shark rigs and went after it.
We got him to the boat and all of us kind of looked at each other and made the wise decision to cut the wire.
Then we went back to drinking beer, catching tuna and eating sushi.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:30 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:30 PM (ALDN3)
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So per the morning report, the head of the Congressional Ethics Office got drunk, and sexually and physically assaulted two women in a bar. "
Omar? Color me shocked...
Omar? Color me shocked...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (MINbv)
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Is that the muslim cop that shot a unarmed women in the midwest somewhere from his passenger car seat in the cop car?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 12:29 PM (5y11N)
Yep, that's the guy.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 12:29 PM (5y11N)
Yep, that's the guy.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (NWiLs)
410
Shoplifting is a "sport" amongst kids of a certain age. If your sons are young enough to treated as "young offenders" in court, it means there is no effective legal punishment for them, so less of a brake on potential bad actions by teens.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (oPNmq)
Nah. 20s. But they look more at my husband too, but I figured it was the Sicilian hue.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:25 PM (oPNmq)
Nah. 20s. But they look more at my husband too, but I figured it was the Sicilian hue.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (eO5CB)
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Lisa Bloom offering $750K to women to come forward against Trump breaking on Drudge....is that Hannity's Shoe drop?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (m7LQK)
Does it have to be women? Because Trump once touched me on my covfefe and for $750,000 I'd like to tell my rather heartbreaking story about it.
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (m7LQK)
Does it have to be women? Because Trump once touched me on my covfefe and for $750,000 I'd like to tell my rather heartbreaking story about it.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (493sH)
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>>Congressional Ethics Office (Staffer) got drunk, and sexually and physically assaulted two women in a bar.
That Sexual Assault Training really works!
That Sexual Assault Training really works!
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (8bEU0)
413
Pet neutrality continues to be a concern of mine.
Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (vtcmf)
414
I don't speak Russian, but I have some Stolichnaya around.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (k1TUh)
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Nah. 20s. But they look more at my husband too, but I figured it was the Sicilian hue.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (eO5CB)
They fell victim to one of the classic blunders.
Nah. 20s. But they look more at my husband too, but I figured it was the Sicilian hue.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (eO5CB)
They fell victim to one of the classic blunders.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (NWiLs)
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No Viking river cruises on the Mississippi thanks to a dumb old law.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/283455/
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/283455/
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (LiyEm)
417
Head of the Congressional Ethics Office, arrested for drunken assaults on women:
Omar Ashwawy.
Shocka.
From wiki:
He was born in Jersey City but grew up in in Westfield, New Jersey.[2] His father was an immigrant from Egypt. His mother was an immigrant from Italy.[3][2] His mother was Catholic, but Ashmawy was reared in his father's faith tradition and grew up as a practicing Muslim.[2]
Double shocka.
Omar Ashwawy.
Shocka.
From wiki:
He was born in Jersey City but grew up in in Westfield, New Jersey.[2] His father was an immigrant from Egypt. His mother was an immigrant from Italy.[3][2] His mother was Catholic, but Ashmawy was reared in his father's faith tradition and grew up as a practicing Muslim.[2]
Double shocka.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2017 12:32 PM (jVm2N)
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One, since it's a contraction of "got you".
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (GjTLE)
Thanks for the fatwa!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (GjTLE)
Thanks for the fatwa!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2017 12:32 PM (W4DyD)
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How dare you speak ill of our heroes in blue! Why do you hate police officers? Why do you hate America?!
Posted by: Insomniac
UNLESS YOU'VE ACTUALLY BEEN A POLICE OFFICER AND PARTICIPATED IN AN UNLAWFUL KILLING OF AN UNARMED CIVILIAN YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMMENT!!!!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac
UNLESS YOU'VE ACTUALLY BEEN A POLICE OFFICER AND PARTICIPATED IN AN UNLAWFUL KILLING OF AN UNARMED CIVILIAN YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMMENT!!!!!!!
Posted by: Sharkman at December 15, 2017 12:32 PM (BfOXk)
420
410. Siggies got sticky fingers. This is known.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 12:32 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2017 12:32 PM (W+vEI)
422
412 >>Congressional Ethics Office (Staffer) got drunk, and sexually and physically assaulted two women in a bar.
That Sexual Assault Training really works!
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (8bEU0)
How are you going to perfect your craft without field experience?
That Sexual Assault Training really works!
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (8bEU0)
How are you going to perfect your craft without field experience?
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:32 PM (NWiLs)
423
Glad to hear that you're already dead, Kurt.
Then I can stick these pins in your torso and testicles without any problem?
Then I can stick these pins in your torso and testicles without any problem?
Posted by: True the Note at December 15, 2017 12:32 PM (HLTe8)
424
411 Get in line pal,a couple of us upthread have already jumped in...
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 12:33 PM (LiyEm)
425
It was the Dali Lama who once remarked upon a photo of a smiling fisherman holding up a nice sized trout/salmon he had just caught who said, "Everyone looks at the happy fisherman, but look at the poor fish, struggling to breath out of water."
Then there is the motivational poster of the brown bear about to snatch a salmon as it attempts to jump over the river rapids and the caption reads, "You probably identify with the bear."
Then there is the motivational poster of the brown bear about to snatch a salmon as it attempts to jump over the river rapids and the caption reads, "You probably identify with the bear."
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 12:33 PM (KdDCu)
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NGU, yep
According to Noor's partner. Noor was in the passenger seat when Damond came up to the driver's side of the patrol car. And Noor shot her.
I am still boggled that Noor's partner had any hearing after the discharge of a firearm inside the car. Or the partner did not shoot Noor in self-defense.
According to Noor's partner. Noor was in the passenger seat when Damond came up to the driver's side of the patrol car. And Noor shot her.
I am still boggled that Noor's partner had any hearing after the discharge of a firearm inside the car. Or the partner did not shoot Noor in self-defense.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:33 PM (wiubB)
427
...For example, when I was in high school, I had a cop threaten to shoot me because he asked for my license and registration and I unbuckled my seat belt so that I could reach in to my back pocket for my wallet.
Because I allegedly failed to yield at a yield sign.
"KEEP YOUR HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL UNTIL I TELL YOU TO MOVE THEM!!"
Like, dude, I can't both produce my license and keep my hands on the steering wheel at the same time.
Because I allegedly failed to yield at a yield sign.
"KEEP YOUR HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL UNTIL I TELL YOU TO MOVE THEM!!"
Like, dude, I can't both produce my license and keep my hands on the steering wheel at the same time.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:33 PM (wmaTe)
428
So much for diplomacy by selfie.
Miss Iraq, Sarah Idan, and her family had to flee their homeland after receiving death threats over a photo she posted online last month.
Why? Because Idan posed with Miss Israel, Adar Gandelsman, at a Miss Universe International Beauty Pageant, the Times of Israel reported.
She can settle in ISrael and live a perfectly peaceful and enjoyable life
Miss Iraq, Sarah Idan, and her family had to flee their homeland after receiving death threats over a photo she posted online last month.
Why? Because Idan posed with Miss Israel, Adar Gandelsman, at a Miss Universe International Beauty Pageant, the Times of Israel reported.
She can settle in ISrael and live a perfectly peaceful and enjoyable life
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 12:33 PM (5y11N)
429
414. Capital!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 12:33 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Hannity at December 15, 2017 12:33 PM (r9UYA)
431
UNLESS YOU'VE ACTUALLY BEEN A POLICE OFFICER AND PARTICIPATED IN AN UNLAWFUL KILLING OF AN UNARMED CIVILIAN YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMMENT!!!!!!!
Posted by: Sharkman at December 15, 2017 12:32 PM (BfOXk)
Oh shit, you're right.
*bows head in shame*
Posted by: Sharkman at December 15, 2017 12:32 PM (BfOXk)
Oh shit, you're right.
*bows head in shame*
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:33 PM (NWiLs)
432
Well, time to get to work.
This morning's music selection while I process several hundred invoices:
Rammstein/Megaherz/E-Nomine/Metallica Greatest Hits Mix
*wanders off . . . *
This morning's music selection while I process several hundred invoices:
Rammstein/Megaherz/E-Nomine/Metallica Greatest Hits Mix
*wanders off . . . *
Posted by: Sharkman at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (BfOXk)
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>>We got him to the boat and all of us kind of looked at each other and made the wise decision to cut the wire.
Makos - those fuckers will kill you while you are fighting them!
Many instances of them going airborne and landing on a guy in the boat / fighting chair.
Fun fisah to catch, but yeah you either shoot them or cut that wire.
Makos - those fuckers will kill you while you are fighting them!
Many instances of them going airborne and landing on a guy in the boat / fighting chair.
Fun fisah to catch, but yeah you either shoot them or cut that wire.
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (8bEU0)
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (ALDN3)
435
>>We were out tuna fishing a couple years ago and noticed we had attracted a 10 foot mako. We quickly spooled up the shark rigs and went after it. Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:30 PM (/tuJf)
That shark has an awesome "boatload that got away" story for his friends.
"They were half-drunk, it wasn't a big boat, man, it would've been soooo easy..."
That shark has an awesome "boatload that got away" story for his friends.
"They were half-drunk, it wasn't a big boat, man, it would've been soooo easy..."
Posted by: Zod at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (Bdeb0)
436
I sometimes think in Russian.
Posted by: Clint Eastwood at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (y87Qq)
Is that a euphemism for something? I had to look up the "speaking jive" thingie. ... Thinking in "mother tongue" tends to go away after enough years in America. I seem to recall reading that thinking in English is one of the traits that you are actually getting good at English.
Posted by: Clint Eastwood at December 15, 2017 12:28 PM (y87Qq)
Is that a euphemism for something? I had to look up the "speaking jive" thingie. ... Thinking in "mother tongue" tends to go away after enough years in America. I seem to recall reading that thinking in English is one of the traits that you are actually getting good at English.
Posted by: Moses at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (I1YPs)
437
353
Simple solution: take out bullet-proof glass,
replace with armor plate, and provide two-way video link and
pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:18 PM (oPNmq)
============================
Remove the clerks. Replace with kiosks and armored payment consoles. Your card doesn't work, or your bills are torn? Too bad.
Posted by: mrp at December 15, 2017 12:21 PM (Pqytn)
You forgot the flame throwers and trap doors for refuse disposal.
Simple solution: take out bullet-proof glass,
replace with armor plate, and provide two-way video link and
pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:18 PM (oPNmq)
============================
Remove the clerks. Replace with kiosks and armored payment consoles. Your card doesn't work, or your bills are torn? Too bad.
Posted by: mrp at December 15, 2017 12:21 PM (Pqytn)
You forgot the flame throwers and trap doors for refuse disposal.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (Dp6qK)
Posted by: Hillary at December 15, 2017 12:35 PM (vg8iE)
439
Hannity is a boob. And not the good kind.
Posted by: Weasel at December 15, 2017 12:36 PM (8aWIY)
440
...and I've worked with cops. I have to say -- to a person, they all drink booze like fish at night, and pound caffeine all day.
So they're probably chemically (and hang overly) on edge to begin with.
I've never seen grown men pound red bulls like the cops I've been around.
So they're probably chemically (and hang overly) on edge to begin with.
I've never seen grown men pound red bulls like the cops I've been around.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:36 PM (wmaTe)
441
Without armored glass, Philly store owners replace all clerks with robots. Stick your debit card into slot after scanning your purchases.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:36 PM (wiubB)
442
I seem to recall reading that thinking in English is one of the traits that you are actually getting good at English.
Posted by: Moses at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (I1YPs)
----
Welcome.
And be forewarned there are LOTS of people here that dont think in ANY language.
We call them Democrats.
Posted by: Moses at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (I1YPs)
----
Welcome.
And be forewarned there are LOTS of people here that dont think in ANY language.
We call them Democrats.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2017 12:36 PM (8XRCm)
443
For example, when I was in high school, I had a cop threaten to shoot me because he asked for my license and registration and I unbuckled my seat belt so that I could reach in to my back pocket for my wallet.
Because I allegedly failed to yield at a yield sign.
"KEEP YOUR HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL UNTIL I TELL YOU TO MOVE THEM!!"
Like, dude, I can't both produce my license and keep my hands on the steering wheel at the same time.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
And they get twice as pissy when you remind them that they just did tell you to move them.
Seems their over-roided brains can't handle the disconnect.
Because I allegedly failed to yield at a yield sign.
"KEEP YOUR HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL UNTIL I TELL YOU TO MOVE THEM!!"
Like, dude, I can't both produce my license and keep my hands on the steering wheel at the same time.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
And they get twice as pissy when you remind them that they just did tell you to move them.
Seems their over-roided brains can't handle the disconnect.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 12:36 PM (GjTLE)
444
436 I guess you never saw the movie Firefox...
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 12:37 PM (LiyEm)
445
>>That shark has an awesome "boatload that got away" story for his friends.
He didn't get away, we cut him away. We were on my buddies Bertram 31 which has a 10 foot cockpit.
10 foot cockpit, 10 foot shark, very, very bad combination.
A man's got to know his limitations.
He didn't get away, we cut him away. We were on my buddies Bertram 31 which has a 10 foot cockpit.
10 foot cockpit, 10 foot shark, very, very bad combination.
A man's got to know his limitations.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:37 PM (/tuJf)
446
Many of the YouTube videos are being flagged by male and female feminists. There is supposedly a inner war going on in Silicon Valley over feminism going to far and some push back.
Posted by: Monk at December 15, 2017 12:37 PM (g4lFK)
447
Resolved: The internet would be a better place if there was no commenting.
Discuss.
While you can.
Discuss.
While you can.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (3myMJ)
448
427. Bank robbery scene in Raising Arizona.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (fA1SL)
449
College football site I go to has been crying about the financial hit the school will take if the new tax laws pass.
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (LiyEm)
450
Moses, only know a few words of Russian. Like Stoi!
Eastwood thinking in Russian, a movie called Firefox. The Russians have a thought control fighter and Clint steals it.
Eastwood thinking in Russian, a movie called Firefox. The Russians have a thought control fighter and Clint steals it.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (wiubB)
451
Hell, why not post all the pictures of the Kon Tiki expedition?
https://tinyurl.com/Kon-Tiki-Bad-Assery
Pictures are great and that's the best URL I've ever seen.
https://tinyurl.com/Kon-Tiki-Bad-Assery
Pictures are great and that's the best URL I've ever seen.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (fuK7c)
452
You might try actually reading what people write sometime.
[cut]
Also, given how much emotion you are evincing you might want to avoid the "feelz" argument.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 12:04 PM (bZ7mE)
I read what you said very carefully. You seem to reject the facts: that policing isn't as dangerous as many other trades, but that we are supposed to genuflect on the altar of "Officer Safety!"
And my emotion was directed at the disgusting results of the failure of American policing, not as a replacement for careful analysis.
[cut]
Also, given how much emotion you are evincing you might want to avoid the "feelz" argument.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 12:04 PM (bZ7mE)
I read what you said very carefully. You seem to reject the facts: that policing isn't as dangerous as many other trades, but that we are supposed to genuflect on the altar of "Officer Safety!"
And my emotion was directed at the disgusting results of the failure of American policing, not as a replacement for careful analysis.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (wYseH)
453
448 427. Bank robbery scene in Raising Arizona.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (fA1SL)
You hear that, you hayseeds? We're usin' code names!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (fA1SL)
You hear that, you hayseeds? We're usin' code names!
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (NWiLs)
454
And they get twice as pissy when you remind them that they just did tell you to move them.
Seems their over-roided brains can't handle the disconnect.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 12:36 PM (GjTLE)
Right. And again, it's hard in the moment to know what you're supposed to do when a big intimidating (armed) dude is screaming at you and threatening you with being shot or arrested or both or... it's just hard to think rationally. Your brain goes in to flight or fight mode and instead of the cops de-escalating, they're getting everyone amped up on adrenaline.
In other words, I could have been shot over a miscommunication about getting my license because the cop thought I didn't do a good enough job yielding to uncoming traffic at a yield sign.
Seems their over-roided brains can't handle the disconnect.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 12:36 PM (GjTLE)
Right. And again, it's hard in the moment to know what you're supposed to do when a big intimidating (armed) dude is screaming at you and threatening you with being shot or arrested or both or... it's just hard to think rationally. Your brain goes in to flight or fight mode and instead of the cops de-escalating, they're getting everyone amped up on adrenaline.
In other words, I could have been shot over a miscommunication about getting my license because the cop thought I didn't do a good enough job yielding to uncoming traffic at a yield sign.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (wmaTe)
455
Eastwood thinking in Russian, a movie called Firefox. The Russians have a thought control fighter and Clint steals it.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (wiubB)
And of course it was invented by those sneaky Jooos
Eastwood thinking in Russian, a movie called Firefox. The Russians have a thought control fighter and Clint steals it.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (wiubB)
And of course it was invented by those sneaky Jooos
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (5y11N)
456
Agree. That odd morphology has still not been explained.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (ALDN3)
Peaking around coral outcroppings whilst sneaking up on delicious, delicious tuna.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (ALDN3)
Peaking around coral outcroppings whilst sneaking up on delicious, delicious tuna.
Posted by: Hammer H. Shark, Esq. at December 15, 2017 12:39 PM (BfOXk)
457
434 'big hammer-heads. Spooky critters'
Agree. That odd morphology has still not been explained.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (ALDN3)
Hm?
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2002-08/aps-wth082202.php
greater separation of sensory apparatus giving better spatial resolution for low resolution sensory modalities plus some hydrodynamic advantages.
Agree. That odd morphology has still not been explained.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (ALDN3)
Hm?
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2002-08/aps-wth082202.php
greater separation of sensory apparatus giving better spatial resolution for low resolution sensory modalities plus some hydrodynamic advantages.
Posted by: goatse guy at December 15, 2017 12:39 PM (CPk08)
458
I think the cop of yore was more likely to just want to keep the peace though, and not "create crime.
Yeah the stings where they show up, offer a bomb to someone, build a fake, and sell it to them, then bust the guys for buying a bomb: what the hell? Would they have been a threat until you showed up and drove them to it???
Yeah the stings where they show up, offer a bomb to someone, build a fake, and sell it to them, then bust the guys for buying a bomb: what the hell? Would they have been a threat until you showed up and drove them to it???
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:39 PM (39g3+)
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>>He didn't get away, we cut him away. We were on my buddies Bertram 31 which has a 10 foot cockpit. Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:37 PM (/tuJf)
No, I get it--I'm just thinking that in the fine tradition of fish-tales, your mako's is gonna..."embellish details slightly for entertainment value..."
No, I get it--I'm just thinking that in the fine tradition of fish-tales, your mako's is gonna..."embellish details slightly for entertainment value..."
Posted by: Zod at December 15, 2017 12:39 PM (Bdeb0)
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asshole sock off.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2017 12:39 PM (CPk08)
461
Still no charges have been filed against Noor or his partner in the killing of Justine Damond.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:27 PM (wiubB)
Is that the muslim cop that shot a unarmed women in the midwest somewhere from his passenger car seat in the cop car?
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Yes
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:27 PM (wiubB)
Is that the muslim cop that shot a unarmed women in the midwest somewhere from his passenger car seat in the cop car?
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Yes
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 12:39 PM (GjTLE)
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So no Shark Dragging? Whats next no midget throwing? Cause that would suck.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'don't judge me!' at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (xFBfz)
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Pictures are great and that's the best URL I've ever seen.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (fuK7c)
One must be clever to come up with a tinyurl that hasn't been used before sometimes.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (fuK7c)
One must be clever to come up with a tinyurl that hasn't been used before sometimes.
Posted by: Hammer H. Shark, Esq. at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (BfOXk)
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I would encourage you to go watch the video. The two cops were scared shitless, not thinking straight, and screaming conflicting instructions and threats, escalating the situation. Murdered an unarmed man, because they thought he was going to pull an invisible gun from behind, while on his hands and knees, stumbling drunk, and wheel around like Clint Eastwood in Fistful of Dollars.
Ah, I am assuming that it is every bit as terrible as people assure me it is. I'm not arguing that. I'm not arguing that one has to be in the police to criticize the police, either.
What I AM saying is that if someone is criticizing police as a whole, it is not out of bounds to ask if they have the experience necessary to make a informed critique of the police, or whether they are just ranting about how they think things should be based on an idealized vision of the past.
CBD has retreated into "you can't tell me what I can't say" instead of addressing the substance of an argument before, and this appears to be much the same sort of thing. It is annoying.
Ah, I am assuming that it is every bit as terrible as people assure me it is. I'm not arguing that. I'm not arguing that one has to be in the police to criticize the police, either.
What I AM saying is that if someone is criticizing police as a whole, it is not out of bounds to ask if they have the experience necessary to make a informed critique of the police, or whether they are just ranting about how they think things should be based on an idealized vision of the past.
CBD has retreated into "you can't tell me what I can't say" instead of addressing the substance of an argument before, and this appears to be much the same sort of thing. It is annoying.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (bZ7mE)
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Code names? Is 'LuvNugget308' taken?
Posted by: Weasel at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (8aWIY)
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Is that a euphemism for something? I had to look up the "speaking jive"
thingie. ... Thinking in "mother tongue" tends to go away after
enough years in America. I seem to recall reading that thinking in
English is one of the traits that you are actually getting good at
English.
Reference to the 1982 movie "Firefox". Clint Eastwood's character steals a Russian plane with a neural interface. He has to think in Russian at one point to avoid getting blow out of the sky.
Ben could have explained it better.
thingie. ... Thinking in "mother tongue" tends to go away after
enough years in America. I seem to recall reading that thinking in
English is one of the traits that you are actually getting good at
English.
Reference to the 1982 movie "Firefox". Clint Eastwood's character steals a Russian plane with a neural interface. He has to think in Russian at one point to avoid getting blow out of the sky.
Ben could have explained it better.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (IcT7t)
467
Congress' human resources scandal is just getting started. I anticipate we will see the resignation of more than a dozen House members over harassment and secret settlements, and soon.
- Luke Rosiak
Mark my words, the House is going to be rocked in the coming 72 hours. Tick Tock.
--Luke Rosiak
- Luke Rosiak
Mark my words, the House is going to be rocked in the coming 72 hours. Tick Tock.
--Luke Rosiak
Posted by: Hannity at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (r9UYA)
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>>453 448 427. Bank robbery scene in Raising Arizona. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (fA1SL)
"Son, you got a panty on your head."
LOVE that.
"Son, you got a panty on your head."
LOVE that.
Posted by: Zod at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (Bdeb0)
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Yeah the stings where they show up, offer a bomb to someone, build a fake, and sell it to them, then bust the guys for buying a bomb: what the hell? Would they have been a threat until you showed up and drove them to it???
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:39 PM (39g3+)
which has been 90%+ of the FBI's "terrorist arrests" since 9/11.
Find a borderline retarded person with a foreign last name, contrive and carry out a whole scenario, then bust the person.
How these ploys are not entrapment, i'll never know.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:39 PM (39g3+)
which has been 90%+ of the FBI's "terrorist arrests" since 9/11.
Find a borderline retarded person with a foreign last name, contrive and carry out a whole scenario, then bust the person.
How these ploys are not entrapment, i'll never know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (wmaTe)
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (8bEU0)
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458 Didn't they know beforehand that their was going to be an attempt on Pam Geller in Texas and not stop it?
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 12:41 PM (LiyEm)
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Oops, member of the Oceanic Bar Association relative sock off.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 15, 2017 12:41 PM (BfOXk)
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"The fact is that policing in America is broken, and this case is a perfect example of it"
I refrained from commenting, but since you brought it up again I will say this.
Broad, generalized statements such as this speak to a particular bias, not facts. And the fact is that law enforcement gets up every day across our country and does an outstanding job. If you look at the number of personnel and calls they answered the "brokenness" is not just overstated, but mostly hyped by people who are anti law enforcement in the first place.
Are their outliers in every profession who make mistakes and don't represent the larger population? Of course, and I am hard pressed to find any profession that does not apply to. But the fact is that law enforcement does a unique and difficult job made harder by false accusations and uninformed comments such as what you've peddled above as some type of thoughtful argument.
You want to have a meaningful, factual, informed conversation on this particular incident? Hop over to any of the police sites where real professionals analyze these situations. Just a clue, you will find numerous who take issue with the tactics. In fact, you will find many who provide comments on most high profile incidents based on their personal experience. But you won't find a majority who believe the profession is "broken" or largely not trusted by the community they serve. That is demonstrably false. What you may find, is many who believe the peddling of anti law enforcement narratives is bringing in people into the profession who don't belong there because they already have this bias, or a bias towards practices that have been proven time and again to be destructive to the goals of community policing.
I refrained from commenting, but since you brought it up again I will say this.
Broad, generalized statements such as this speak to a particular bias, not facts. And the fact is that law enforcement gets up every day across our country and does an outstanding job. If you look at the number of personnel and calls they answered the "brokenness" is not just overstated, but mostly hyped by people who are anti law enforcement in the first place.
Are their outliers in every profession who make mistakes and don't represent the larger population? Of course, and I am hard pressed to find any profession that does not apply to. But the fact is that law enforcement does a unique and difficult job made harder by false accusations and uninformed comments such as what you've peddled above as some type of thoughtful argument.
You want to have a meaningful, factual, informed conversation on this particular incident? Hop over to any of the police sites where real professionals analyze these situations. Just a clue, you will find numerous who take issue with the tactics. In fact, you will find many who provide comments on most high profile incidents based on their personal experience. But you won't find a majority who believe the profession is "broken" or largely not trusted by the community they serve. That is demonstrably false. What you may find, is many who believe the peddling of anti law enforcement narratives is bringing in people into the profession who don't belong there because they already have this bias, or a bias towards practices that have been proven time and again to be destructive to the goals of community policing.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2017 12:41 PM (VpIIl)
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So, when I logged in, there was just the art thread (and some kind of optical illusion). By the time I finished reading the Morning Report, there's a monkey thread with getting toward 500 comments on it.
I feel like a bit of flotsam in a flood. Go with the flow, don't try to grab anything.
I feel like a bit of flotsam in a flood. Go with the flow, don't try to grab anything.
Posted by: mindful webworker - serially at December 15, 2017 12:41 PM (SMh/7)
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>>No, I get it--I'm just thinking that in the fine tradition of fish-tales, your mako's is gonna..."embellish details slightly for entertainment value..."
That's exactly why we cut him free. None of us wanted to be a part of his fish story.
That's exactly why we cut him free. None of us wanted to be a part of his fish story.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:41 PM (/tuJf)
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447 Resolved: The internet would be a better place if there was no commenting.
Discuss.
While you can.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (3myMJ)
You racist. I feel sexually intimidated and har4assed.
Discuss.
While you can.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (3myMJ)
You racist. I feel sexually intimidated and har4assed.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2017 12:41 PM (CPk08)
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Eastwood thinking in Russian, a movie called Firefox. The Russians have a thought control fighter and Clint steals it.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (wiubB)
Aaah! Saw it on a shelf in Blockbusters, or whatever, years ago, but never watched it.
Thanks for edumacation.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (wiubB)
Aaah! Saw it on a shelf in Blockbusters, or whatever, years ago, but never watched it.
Thanks for edumacation.
Posted by: Moses at December 15, 2017 12:42 PM (I1YPs)
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'greater separation of sensory apparatus giving better spatial resolution for low resolution sensory modalities plus some hydrodynamic advantages.'
Yes, it's still controversial with multiple theories. Stereoscopy is just one. Another is that it enhances electrosensory localization, since they feed primarily on buried prey. And as you note hydrodynamics could also play a role. It may not be just one reason.
It could also be sexual selection. In stalk-eyed flies, the males with the longer eyes get the chicks, although it is thought to be a hindrance in other ways.
Yes, it's still controversial with multiple theories. Stereoscopy is just one. Another is that it enhances electrosensory localization, since they feed primarily on buried prey. And as you note hydrodynamics could also play a role. It may not be just one reason.
It could also be sexual selection. In stalk-eyed flies, the males with the longer eyes get the chicks, although it is thought to be a hindrance in other ways.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:42 PM (ALDN3)
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Lisa Bloom
*searches memory*
As in Gloria Allred's daughter, Harvery Weinstein's lawyer - that Lisa Bloom?
Nut doesn't fall far from the tree.
*searches memory*
As in Gloria Allred's daughter, Harvery Weinstein's lawyer - that Lisa Bloom?
Nut doesn't fall far from the tree.
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 12:42 PM (EzdLW)
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What I AM saying is that if someone is criticizing police as a whole, it is not out of bounds to ask if they have the experience necessary to make a informed critique of the police, or whether they are just ranting about how they think things should be based on an idealized vision of the past.
CBD has retreated into "you can't tell me what I can't say" instead of addressing the substance of an argument before, and this appears to be much the same sort of thing. It is annoying.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (bZ7mE)
What special experience do you think we, as citizens, need, in order to judge our government to be a bit overbearing at times?
CBD has retreated into "you can't tell me what I can't say" instead of addressing the substance of an argument before, and this appears to be much the same sort of thing. It is annoying.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (bZ7mE)
What special experience do you think we, as citizens, need, in order to judge our government to be a bit overbearing at times?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:42 PM (wmaTe)
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471 458 Didn't they know beforehand that their was going to be an attempt on Pam Geller in Texas and not stop it?
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 12:41 PM (LiyEm)
Yes. And the agent texted the ISIS sympathizer a message stating "Tear up Texas."
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 12:41 PM (LiyEm)
Yes. And the agent texted the ISIS sympathizer a message stating "Tear up Texas."
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:42 PM (NWiLs)
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>>>>That shark has an awesome "boatload that got away" story for his friends.
He didn't get away, we cut him away. We were on my buddies Bertram 31 which has a 10 foot cockpit.
10 foot cockpit, 10 foot shark, very, very bad combination.
A man's got to know his limitations.
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.We were wading and casting for herring to use as bait on early morning at GITMO during a fishing tournament. Waist deep and dark as $hit and here comes a huge friggin hammerhead. Cruised right by us. We jumped back in the boat and went after him but didn't get him.
Later that day we pulled into the pier to weigh our fish for the contest and there was some Jamaicans with that same shark 14 foot long. They couldn't get up high enough on the scale bar to weigh it. That thing had to weigh 700 pounds or better.
He didn't get away, we cut him away. We were on my buddies Bertram 31 which has a 10 foot cockpit.
10 foot cockpit, 10 foot shark, very, very bad combination.
A man's got to know his limitations.
.
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.We were wading and casting for herring to use as bait on early morning at GITMO during a fishing tournament. Waist deep and dark as $hit and here comes a huge friggin hammerhead. Cruised right by us. We jumped back in the boat and went after him but didn't get him.
Later that day we pulled into the pier to weigh our fish for the contest and there was some Jamaicans with that same shark 14 foot long. They couldn't get up high enough on the scale bar to weigh it. That thing had to weigh 700 pounds or better.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 15, 2017 12:42 PM (+Dllb)
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Mark my words, the House is going to be rocked in the coming 72 hours.
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If the House is a rockin', don't come a knockin'!
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If the House is a rockin', don't come a knockin'!
Posted by: Your Molesting Betters in Congress at December 15, 2017 12:42 PM (vg8iE)
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greater separation of sensory apparatus giving better spatial resolution for low resolution sensory modalities plus some hydrodynamic advantages.
Posted by: goatse guy at December 15, 2017 12:39 PM (CPk0
Like I said, peaking around corners . . . tuna.
Posted by: goatse guy at December 15, 2017 12:39 PM (CPk0
Like I said, peaking around corners . . . tuna.
Posted by: Hammer H. Shark, Esq. at December 15, 2017 12:42 PM (BfOXk)
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>>Didn't they know beforehand that their was going to be an attempt on Pam Geller in Texas and not stop it?
Seem to recall they were kind of egging the ISIS guys on?
Seem to recall they were kind of egging the ISIS guys on?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2017 12:42 PM (W+vEI)
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Hey what goes around comes around. I've dragged some seals around pretty good and if those scuba divers weren't so damn rubbery i'd have my fill of them too.
Posted by: Shark at December 15, 2017 12:43 PM (xFBfz)
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Moses at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM
That's a running joke idea on this blog. Reply with a movie quote that almost seems legitimate.
Eastwood was the star in a hollywood movie "Foxfire" about steal an advanced MIG fighter that required the pilot to think in Russian.
And I do not work for the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg. I only pretend to because I think it is humorous.
So now I'll have to change my pseudonym. Until people forget.
That's a running joke idea on this blog. Reply with a movie quote that almost seems legitimate.
Eastwood was the star in a hollywood movie "Foxfire" about steal an advanced MIG fighter that required the pilot to think in Russian.
And I do not work for the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg. I only pretend to because I think it is humorous.
So now I'll have to change my pseudonym. Until people forget.
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 12:43 PM (KdDCu)
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Simple solution: take out bullet-proof glass, replace with armor plate, and provide two-way video link and pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Alternate solution: Move store to suburbs.
Food desert!
Simple solution: take out bullet-proof glass, replace with armor plate, and provide two-way video link and pass-through cash drawer so clerk can serve customers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Alternate solution: Move store to suburbs.
Food desert!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2017 12:43 PM (IqV8l)
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One final set of questions for bandersnatch -- Do you ever fish with live bait? Or do you kill the worm, or small fish first before putting them on the hook? Or is it possible, just possible, that they work as bait better when they wiggle in the water?
Maybe true fishermen use little padded fishcuffs/wormcuffs to tie them to the hook.
I need to get with the times.
Maybe true fishermen use little padded fishcuffs/wormcuffs to tie them to the hook.
I need to get with the times.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 15, 2017 12:43 PM (0ogQG)
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About those Hammerheads....even I like to have a little fun sometimes
God
God
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 12:43 PM (LiyEm)
491
If the cats have to pay to watch YouTube and the dogs don't, there will be fights and lots of trouble.
Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at December 15, 2017 12:43 PM (vtcmf)
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Reference to the 1982 movie "Firefox". Clint Eastwood's character steals a Russian plane with a neural interface. He has to think in Russian at one point to avoid getting blow out of the sky.
Ben could have explained it better.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (IcT7t)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WHAT THE FUCK IS A NEURAL INTERFACE IS THIS FUNNY I DON'T KNOW WHAT?
Ben could have explained it better.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (IcT7t)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WHAT THE FUCK IS A NEURAL INTERFACE IS THIS FUNNY I DON'T KNOW WHAT?
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2017 12:44 PM (CPk08)
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Just saying - I'm not sure what "nuance" I need to understand when a police officer threatens to shoot me for the 100% legal activity of openly carrying a firearm in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Or when another police officer demands to search my car for illegal items because my CHP showed up on his dashboard computer during a traffic stop.
Power corrupts, and I see it too often in the police ranks. It's unfortunate, especially for the guys there who sincerely want to do the right thing and serve the community. But more and more, there are people who see a career in the police as a way to get instant power.
I agree with CBD.
Or when another police officer demands to search my car for illegal items because my CHP showed up on his dashboard computer during a traffic stop.
Power corrupts, and I see it too often in the police ranks. It's unfortunate, especially for the guys there who sincerely want to do the right thing and serve the community. But more and more, there are people who see a career in the police as a way to get instant power.
I agree with CBD.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at December 15, 2017 12:44 PM (tVWQB)
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I feel like a bit of flotsam in a flood. Go with the flow, don't try to grab anything."
That's harassment, dontchaknow? The grabbing part, that is...
That's harassment, dontchaknow? The grabbing part, that is...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 12:44 PM (MINbv)
495
Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2017 12:41 PM (VpIIl)
I don't know about that, dude. I've popped over to some of those police sites and I see far more "hooray for our team" and almost masturbatory glee from some people over cops shooting someone than I see reasoned, balanced analysis.
I don't know about that, dude. I've popped over to some of those police sites and I see far more "hooray for our team" and almost masturbatory glee from some people over cops shooting someone than I see reasoned, balanced analysis.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:44 PM (NWiLs)
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487. Good! Too long at table, using Wi-Fi! - Starbuks Moskva
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 12:44 PM (fA1SL)
497
Mark my words, the House is going to be rocked in the coming 72 hours.
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If the House is a rockin', don't come a knockin'!
Posted by: Your Molesting Betters in Congress at December 15, 2017 12:42 PM (vg8iE)
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Ironically performed by Jerry Lee Lewis ....... husband to his 14 year old cousin.
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If the House is a rockin', don't come a knockin'!
Posted by: Your Molesting Betters in Congress at December 15, 2017 12:42 PM (vg8iE)
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Ironically performed by Jerry Lee Lewis ....... husband to his 14 year old cousin.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2017 12:44 PM (8XRCm)
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359 Cops are a necessary evil unfortunately. I think the cop of yore was more likely to just want to keep the peace though, and not "create crime." The "gotcha" shit pisses people off. That's most likely the fault of the "system" including legislatures, but still.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:22 PM (eO5CB)
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I think DA are even more of a problem than cops. It's one thing to make an arrest, it's another to push things beyond what would be considered reasonable by most people.
Once a DA comes after you, look out, because: A, you're guilty until you prove your innocence, and B, the DA will darn sure try to put you in a position to plead out because most people just cannot afford the 70K or more it can cost to defend yourself.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:22 PM (eO5CB)
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I think DA are even more of a problem than cops. It's one thing to make an arrest, it's another to push things beyond what would be considered reasonable by most people.
Once a DA comes after you, look out, because: A, you're guilty until you prove your innocence, and B, the DA will darn sure try to put you in a position to plead out because most people just cannot afford the 70K or more it can cost to defend yourself.
Posted by: Blake at December 15, 2017 12:45 PM (qC1Sy)
499
"real funny G-d," Echinda
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:45 PM (wiubB)
500
Broad, generalized statements such as this speak to a particular bias, not facts. And the fact is that law enforcement gets up every day across our country and does an outstanding job. If you look at the number of personnel and calls they answered the "brokenness" is not just overstated, but mostly hyped by people who are anti law enforcement in the first place.
Yeah for every awful incident you can list -- and there are real ones, terrible misconduct by police, corruption, murder etc -- there are thousands of great jobs by cops protecting people and sacrificing themselves for their public. Cops who go way beyond the call of duty for their community, cops with compassion, kindness, and wisdom.
There are some problems with modern policing, but to characterize the entire policing community by some awful examples is to fall into the same stupid, lazy mindset as Black Lives Matter. Cops are not the enemy. Cops are not evil. Cops are not pigs we should despise.
Yeah for every awful incident you can list -- and there are real ones, terrible misconduct by police, corruption, murder etc -- there are thousands of great jobs by cops protecting people and sacrificing themselves for their public. Cops who go way beyond the call of duty for their community, cops with compassion, kindness, and wisdom.
There are some problems with modern policing, but to characterize the entire policing community by some awful examples is to fall into the same stupid, lazy mindset as Black Lives Matter. Cops are not the enemy. Cops are not evil. Cops are not pigs we should despise.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:45 PM (39g3+)
501
Say a prayer for Philly store owners, They passed a law banning bullet proof glass at corner stores.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
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A state rep in neighboring Montgomery county is trying to pass legislation that would block this kind of overreach. Bass responds:
"It would be great if he actually worked on behalf of his constituents and the folks that actually elected him rather than what's happening in Philadelphia neighborhoods that he really has no knowledge of," said Bass.
Well, she works on behalf of her constituents. Dindu scum, apparently. But I think the entire state would benefit if this law were blocked, so all PA has standing to nix it.
And what's there to have knowledge of? Obviously, the plexiglass of evil asian business owners is terrorizing and enslaving innocent people of color. It's not exactly rocket science.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (dKiJG)
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A state rep in neighboring Montgomery county is trying to pass legislation that would block this kind of overreach. Bass responds:
"It would be great if he actually worked on behalf of his constituents and the folks that actually elected him rather than what's happening in Philadelphia neighborhoods that he really has no knowledge of," said Bass.
Well, she works on behalf of her constituents. Dindu scum, apparently. But I think the entire state would benefit if this law were blocked, so all PA has standing to nix it.
And what's there to have knowledge of? Obviously, the plexiglass of evil asian business owners is terrorizing and enslaving innocent people of color. It's not exactly rocket science.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 15, 2017 12:45 PM (/qEW2)
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"447 Resolved: The internet would be a better place if there was no commenting.
Discuss.
While you can.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (3myMJ)"
Read the comments at the WSJ. There was a time when they were the gold standard. You could actually learn things from the readers on the articles subject.
Now they mostly teach you that Trump Derangement Syndrome has infected the readership, there is a large percentage of middle-age readers who actually like communism, hate capitalism and mostly don't like democracy.
Discuss.
While you can.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 12:38 PM (3myMJ)"
Read the comments at the WSJ. There was a time when they were the gold standard. You could actually learn things from the readers on the articles subject.
Now they mostly teach you that Trump Derangement Syndrome has infected the readership, there is a large percentage of middle-age readers who actually like communism, hate capitalism and mostly don't like democracy.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2017 12:45 PM (VpIIl)
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Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2017 12:41 PM (VpIIl)
The problem does not necessarily seem to be individual cops.
It seems to be the training taught in policy academies and reinforced in departments and mentality of "the police" as an industry.
They seem to lean towards tactics that they think improve "policy safety" at the cost of improving "citizen safety," a practice which many of us find abhorrent.
For example, police are taught to use a firm, loud voice to "control the situation."
That is illogical if the desired outcome is that the situation is de-escalated. Because yelling at someone does not cause them to calm down, it causes them to be scared and intimidated. It causes more adrenaline to flow. Psychologically, it causes people to go in to "flight or fight" mode.
That only escalates situations.
The problem does not necessarily seem to be individual cops.
It seems to be the training taught in policy academies and reinforced in departments and mentality of "the police" as an industry.
They seem to lean towards tactics that they think improve "policy safety" at the cost of improving "citizen safety," a practice which many of us find abhorrent.
For example, police are taught to use a firm, loud voice to "control the situation."
That is illogical if the desired outcome is that the situation is de-escalated. Because yelling at someone does not cause them to calm down, it causes them to be scared and intimidated. It causes more adrenaline to flow. Psychologically, it causes people to go in to "flight or fight" mode.
That only escalates situations.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:46 PM (wmaTe)
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I don't know about that, dude. I've popped over to some of those police sites and I see far more "hooray for our team" and almost masturbatory glee from some people over cops shooting someone than I see reasoned, balanced analysis.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:44 PM (NWiLs)
Well, yeah, but that IS the innnernet, so it pretty much represents the innernet.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:44 PM (NWiLs)
Well, yeah, but that IS the innnernet, so it pretty much represents the innernet.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2017 12:46 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:46 PM (ALDN3)
506
I feel like a bit of flotsam in a flood. Go with the flow, don't try to grab anything.
And, you know, watch out for the makos.
And, you know, watch out for the makos.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 12:47 PM (fuK7c)
507
505 'Ironically performed by Jerry Lee Lewis ......'
I thought that was Stevie Ray
Posted by: harry lime
Booker T
I thought that was Stevie Ray
Posted by: harry lime
Booker T
Posted by: Rick in SK at December 15, 2017 12:47 PM (FZYNt)
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 12:47 PM (KdDCu)
509
Lisa Bloom
*searches memory*
As in Gloria Allred's daughter, Harvery Weinstein's lawyer - that Lisa Bloom?
Nut doesn't fall far from the tree.
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 12:42 PM (EzdLW)
Harvey Weinstein: Nuts? I got yer nuts right here baby!!!!
*searches memory*
As in Gloria Allred's daughter, Harvery Weinstein's lawyer - that Lisa Bloom?
Nut doesn't fall far from the tree.
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 12:42 PM (EzdLW)
Harvey Weinstein: Nuts? I got yer nuts right here baby!!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2017 12:47 PM (493sH)
510
Hammerhead sharks are God having fun with design and giving us something interesting to consider.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:47 PM (39g3+)
511
"Reference to the 1982 movie "Firefox". Clint Eastwood's character steals a Russian plane with a neural interface. He has to think in Russian at one point to avoid getting blow out of the sky."
11 year old me saw that in theater with my dad while my older brothers got to see Star Trek II next door.
11 year old me saw that in theater with my dad while my older brothers got to see Star Trek II next door.
Posted by: Benji Carver at December 15, 2017 12:47 PM (OD2ni)
512
I feel like a bit of flotsam in a flood. Go with the flow, don't try to grab anything.
Wait until you end up in the Barrel.
Wait until you end up in the Barrel.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:47 PM (wiubB)
513
Courting and marrying teenage girls was once considered normal.Right Elvis?
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 12:48 PM (LiyEm)
514
Ah, I am assuming that it is every bit as terrible as people assure me it is. I'm not arguing that. I'm not arguing that one has to be in the police to criticize the police, either.
What I AM saying is that if someone is criticizing police as a whole, it is not out of bounds to ask if they have the experience necessary to make a informed critique of the police, or whether they are just ranting about how they think things should be based on an idealized vision of the past.
CBD has retreated into "you can't tell me what I can't say" instead of addressing the substance of an argument before, and this appears to be much the same sort of thing. It is annoying.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (bZ7mE)
What's the point of having this conversation if you're not arguing one side? Are we arguing for the sake of arguing?
The only practical purpose to this line of questioning is to get the other person to retract their position before the actual debate happens. Or to put it another way, if CBD is mistaken here, he's mistaken on the merits of the case, and his personal experiences are only important insofar as they lead him to either be correct or be mistaken. So if he's not mistaken, then there's no point in arguing. If he is mistaken, then you should argue on the merits of the case, rather than get him to cede the argument just because you know better than him what you're talking about. If that's true, then you should be able to make a persuasive coherent argument in favor of that fact, not just say "well you don't know, because you don't have the right experiences."
What I AM saying is that if someone is criticizing police as a whole, it is not out of bounds to ask if they have the experience necessary to make a informed critique of the police, or whether they are just ranting about how they think things should be based on an idealized vision of the past.
CBD has retreated into "you can't tell me what I can't say" instead of addressing the substance of an argument before, and this appears to be much the same sort of thing. It is annoying.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (bZ7mE)
What's the point of having this conversation if you're not arguing one side? Are we arguing for the sake of arguing?
The only practical purpose to this line of questioning is to get the other person to retract their position before the actual debate happens. Or to put it another way, if CBD is mistaken here, he's mistaken on the merits of the case, and his personal experiences are only important insofar as they lead him to either be correct or be mistaken. So if he's not mistaken, then there's no point in arguing. If he is mistaken, then you should argue on the merits of the case, rather than get him to cede the argument just because you know better than him what you're talking about. If that's true, then you should be able to make a persuasive coherent argument in favor of that fact, not just say "well you don't know, because you don't have the right experiences."
Posted by: Intersectional SJW Feminists at December 15, 2017 12:48 PM (KUaJL)
515
Aaaand lookee here: Bob Menedez is fighting to maintain chain migration:
Menendez warned that a Republican request to end so-called "chain
migration" could make any DACA deal unacceptable to him, since it would
take away the right of citizens and permanent residents to reunify with
their family members.
Where's Kristen Gilibrand on this guy, eh?!?
Menendez warned that a Republican request to end so-called "chain
migration" could make any DACA deal unacceptable to him, since it would
take away the right of citizens and permanent residents to reunify with
their family members.
Where's Kristen Gilibrand on this guy, eh?!?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2017 12:48 PM (W+vEI)
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513 Courting and marrying teenage girls was once considered normal.Right Elvis?
Posted by: steevy
So Elvis couldn't get elected to the Senate?
Posted by: steevy
So Elvis couldn't get elected to the Senate?
Posted by: Rick in SK at December 15, 2017 12:48 PM (FZYNt)
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That is illogical if the desired outcome is that the situation is de-escalated. Because yelling at someone does not cause them to calm down, it causes them to be scared and intimidated. It causes more adrenaline to flow. Psychologically, it causes people to go in to "flight or fight" mode.
That only escalates situations.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:46 PM (wmaTe)
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Wow.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion.
My opinion is you're an idiot on this topic.
That only escalates situations.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:46 PM (wmaTe)
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Wow.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion.
My opinion is you're an idiot on this topic.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2017 12:49 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2017 12:49 PM (8bEU0)
519
Didn't they know beforehand that their was going to be an attempt on Pam Geller in Texas and not stop it?
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 12:41 PM (LiyEm)
Yes. And the agent texted the ISIS sympathizer a message stating "Tear up Texas."
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One of the things that Hannity-- and Trump to some extent-- talks about are "all the good people in the FBI."
I suspect that number is way, way smaller than they think.
Have you ever been a job where, at the top, quality just... disappears? That's a signal to the worker bees that you can just slack off. Basically, get paid to do work that's not as good. So why bother doing good work? There are no rewards, you get no raise and your bosses do not care.
"Whatever" is the message the FBI has been sending to the FBI proles for a while, unless it deals directly with O, Hillary and the DNC.
"Pam Geller death threat? Whatever." "Vegas shooting, red stater types killed? Whatever."
It's more like "We need to protect our guy Comey NOW. FBI TEAM DNC ACTIVATE!!!"
Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2017 12:41 PM (LiyEm)
Yes. And the agent texted the ISIS sympathizer a message stating "Tear up Texas."
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One of the things that Hannity-- and Trump to some extent-- talks about are "all the good people in the FBI."
I suspect that number is way, way smaller than they think.
Have you ever been a job where, at the top, quality just... disappears? That's a signal to the worker bees that you can just slack off. Basically, get paid to do work that's not as good. So why bother doing good work? There are no rewards, you get no raise and your bosses do not care.
"Whatever" is the message the FBI has been sending to the FBI proles for a while, unless it deals directly with O, Hillary and the DNC.
"Pam Geller death threat? Whatever." "Vegas shooting, red stater types killed? Whatever."
It's more like "We need to protect our guy Comey NOW. FBI TEAM DNC ACTIVATE!!!"
Posted by: shibumi at December 15, 2017 12:49 PM (aT+Bx)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 12:49 PM (MINbv)
521
514. TL/DR - shoot the dog.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 12:49 PM (fA1SL)
522
'Booker T'
Songfacts sez: 'Vaughan wrote this song, and a few others on the album, with fellow Texas songwriter Doyle Bramhall.'
I don't really know, but I love the song.
Songfacts sez: 'Vaughan wrote this song, and a few others on the album, with fellow Texas songwriter Doyle Bramhall.'
I don't really know, but I love the song.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:49 PM (ALDN3)
523
Well, yeah, but that IS the innnernet, so it pretty much represents the innernet.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2017 12:46 PM (CPk0
Fair point.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2017 12:46 PM (CPk0
Fair point.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:49 PM (NWiLs)
524
520 Are we arguing for the sake of arguing? "
Si.
Posted by: Anon a mouse
only on days that end in Y
Si.
Posted by: Anon a mouse
only on days that end in Y
Posted by: Rick in SK at December 15, 2017 12:50 PM (FZYNt)
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For example, police are taught to use a firm, loud voice to "control the situation."
Sure, because 99 times out of 100 or more, that works. Get control, stay in control because everyone is safer that way. Its good for the community, good for the person you're dealing with, good for the cops. Its just it takes wisdom and experience to learn how to best handle that 1 times, and that's why you used to have a great, experienced cop ride around with a rookie, to teach them stuff like that.
The cops here? Solo in every car. Then they swarm, 2, 3 cars show up at a scene. So much more cost effective??
Sure, because 99 times out of 100 or more, that works. Get control, stay in control because everyone is safer that way. Its good for the community, good for the person you're dealing with, good for the cops. Its just it takes wisdom and experience to learn how to best handle that 1 times, and that's why you used to have a great, experienced cop ride around with a rookie, to teach them stuff like that.
The cops here? Solo in every car. Then they swarm, 2, 3 cars show up at a scene. So much more cost effective??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:50 PM (39g3+)
526
greater separation of sensory apparatus giving better spatial resolution for low resolution sensory modalities plus some hydrodynamic advantages.
Or in English, makes the shark more sharky.
Or in English, makes the shark more sharky.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 15, 2017 12:50 PM (kUmUV)
527
Because I allegedly failed to yield at a yield sign.
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#3 kidlet was stopped for that one at a very quiet intersection in the middle of the day. After ticket was issued, local officer was snarky and said 'happy birthday'. Yes, it was his 18th, which meant that he had to pay. Small town.
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#3 kidlet was stopped for that one at a very quiet intersection in the middle of the day. After ticket was issued, local officer was snarky and said 'happy birthday'. Yes, it was his 18th, which meant that he had to pay. Small town.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2017 12:50 PM (MIKMs)
528
Mark my words, the House is going to be rocked in the coming 72 hours. Tick Tock.
--Luke Rosiak
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TGIF!
--Luke Rosiak
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TGIF!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Han didn't shoot first. ONLY Han shot. at December 15, 2017 12:50 PM (fsZof)
529
off sock
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at December 15, 2017 12:51 PM (KUaJL)
530
since it would
take away the right of citizens and permanent residents to reunify with
their family members.
=========
Where the fuck is that "right" written?
They can reunify in their fucking home countries. How about that?
take away the right of citizens and permanent residents to reunify with
their family members.
=========
Where the fuck is that "right" written?
They can reunify in their fucking home countries. How about that?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at December 15, 2017 12:51 PM (vg8iE)
531
>>Have you ever been a job where, at the top, quality just... disappears?
That's a signal to the worker bees that you can just slack off.
As has apparently happened to the Secret Service under Obama, when he moved it under DHS.
That's a signal to the worker bees that you can just slack off.
As has apparently happened to the Secret Service under Obama, when he moved it under DHS.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2017 12:51 PM (W+vEI)
532
'Because yelling at someone does not cause them to calm down,'
To be honest, I've thought about this before as well, but cops are obviously taught to scream authoritatively in these situations. I guess the idea is that it scares the perp into just giving up?
To be honest, I've thought about this before as well, but cops are obviously taught to scream authoritatively in these situations. I guess the idea is that it scares the perp into just giving up?
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:51 PM (ALDN3)
533
"Read the comments at the WSJ. There was a time when they were the gold standard. You could actually learn things from the readers on the articles subject."
NRO used to have a great comment section. Writers like Charles CW Cooke would even engage in respectful back and forth with you sometimes. Now pure crap. I guess they figure that is what Twitter is for now.
NRO used to have a great comment section. Writers like Charles CW Cooke would even engage in respectful back and forth with you sometimes. Now pure crap. I guess they figure that is what Twitter is for now.
Posted by: Benji Carver at December 15, 2017 12:51 PM (OD2ni)
534
There are some problems with modern policing, but to characterize the entire policing community by some awful examples is to fall into the same stupid, lazy mindset as Black Lives Matter. Cops are not the enemy. Cops are not evil. Cops are not pigs we should despise.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:45 PM (39g3+)
I don't think cops are evil or the enemy, but I do think that the "corporate culture" as it were in their industry is something we need to change.
I find "community policing" to be a terrible idea, for example. However, it's taken as a given in that industry that "community policing" is best practice.
Why? How is having cops hanging out in a neighborhood looking for petty crimes to arrest people for preferable to a 911-driven police force? Break that down for me.
Why is it a given that yelling at people is preferable to speaking calmly and respectfully? Show me the academic research that says more situations are de-escalated by having police "control the situation" then are by having the police be calm and polite?
Why is it a given that "officer safety" trumps all else? How does that best serve me, the citizen who pays their salary? Not that I want cops to die, but I don't think "mitigating risk" to officers by using overwhelming force against suspected criminals is something that I would choose to do if I were in charge of police training.
It only leads to fear, resentment, and suspects making bad decisions.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:45 PM (39g3+)
I don't think cops are evil or the enemy, but I do think that the "corporate culture" as it were in their industry is something we need to change.
I find "community policing" to be a terrible idea, for example. However, it's taken as a given in that industry that "community policing" is best practice.
Why? How is having cops hanging out in a neighborhood looking for petty crimes to arrest people for preferable to a 911-driven police force? Break that down for me.
Why is it a given that yelling at people is preferable to speaking calmly and respectfully? Show me the academic research that says more situations are de-escalated by having police "control the situation" then are by having the police be calm and polite?
Why is it a given that "officer safety" trumps all else? How does that best serve me, the citizen who pays their salary? Not that I want cops to die, but I don't think "mitigating risk" to officers by using overwhelming force against suspected criminals is something that I would choose to do if I were in charge of police training.
It only leads to fear, resentment, and suspects making bad decisions.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:51 PM (wmaTe)
535
11 year old me saw that in theater with my dad while my older brothers got to see Star Trek II next door.
You got the better movie.
You got the better movie.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at December 15, 2017 12:52 PM (IcT7t)
536
>>The only practical purpose to this line of questioning is to get the other person to retract their position before the actual debate happens. Or to put it another way, if CBD is mistaken here, he's mistaken on the merits of the case, and his personal experiences are only important insofar as they lead him to either be correct or be mistaken. So if he's not mistaken, then there's no point in arguing. If he is mistaken, then you should argue on the merits of the case, rather than get him to cede the argument just because you know better than him what you're talking about. If that's true, then you should be able to make a persuasive coherent argument in favor of that fact, not just say "well you don't know, because you don't have the right experiences."
Posted by: Intersectional SJW Feminists at December 15, 2017 12:48 PM (KUaJL)
Kneel.
Posted by: Intersectional SJW Feminists at December 15, 2017 12:48 PM (KUaJL)
Kneel.
Posted by: Zod at December 15, 2017 12:52 PM (Bdeb0)
537
Or in English, makes the shark more sharky.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 15, 2017 12:50 PM (kUmUV)
Specially if it's hanging around inshore....which a lot of hammerheads do.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 15, 2017 12:50 PM (kUmUV)
Specially if it's hanging around inshore....which a lot of hammerheads do.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2017 12:52 PM (CPk08)
538
528 Mark my words, the House is going to be rocked in the coming 72 hours. Tick Tock.
--Luke Rosiak
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Luke Rosiak? Is that SGOTI?
--Luke Rosiak
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Luke Rosiak? Is that SGOTI?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2017 12:52 PM (h7V7+)
539
One final set of questions for bandersnatch -- Do you ever fish with live bait?
Mostly no, because I'm a flyfisherman. Mostly. But that's not the point.
And I did read your earlier thing and no I don't take the same care with crabs and shrimp and shrimp and such. I put live lobsters into steam and listen to their screams.
There's a hierarchy that isn't exactly science or morality but you sort of feel it. The thing they did to that shark looks like callous torture to me.
Mostly no, because I'm a flyfisherman. Mostly. But that's not the point.
And I did read your earlier thing and no I don't take the same care with crabs and shrimp and shrimp and such. I put live lobsters into steam and listen to their screams.
There's a hierarchy that isn't exactly science or morality but you sort of feel it. The thing they did to that shark looks like callous torture to me.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 12:52 PM (fuK7c)
540
"It would be great if he actually worked on behalf of his constituents and the folks that actually elected him rather than what's happening in Philadelphia neighborhoods that he really has no knowledge of," said Bass.
He has no knowledge of Bass's neighborhood? I bet he's grateful for that lack of knowledge, too.
He has no knowledge of Bass's neighborhood? I bet he's grateful for that lack of knowledge, too.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2017 12:52 PM (W4DyD)
541
note to self: do not piss on dead sharks on video
Posted by: torabora at December 15, 2017 12:52 PM (6dFYM)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at December 15, 2017 12:53 PM (wiubB)
543
I read what you said very carefully. You seem to reject the facts: that policing isn't as dangerous as many other trades, but that we are supposed to genuflect on the altar of "Officer Safety!"
Never said any of that. Nothing you said in your post yesterday has anything to do with what I am saying.
And my emotion was directed at the disgusting results of the failure of American policing, not as a replacement for careful analysis.
You are angry about me suggesting that it isn't wrong for someone else to ask if you understand the problem. Whether the poster you are responding to was actually doing that I don't know, but arguing against "credentialism" is the wrong way to address the issue and I was endeavoring to point that out.
Incidentally, there are things in your first post that do in fact suggest that you are basing your "careful analysis" on an idealized vision of the past, so it isn't entirely an hypothetical argument.
Never said any of that. Nothing you said in your post yesterday has anything to do with what I am saying.
And my emotion was directed at the disgusting results of the failure of American policing, not as a replacement for careful analysis.
You are angry about me suggesting that it isn't wrong for someone else to ask if you understand the problem. Whether the poster you are responding to was actually doing that I don't know, but arguing against "credentialism" is the wrong way to address the issue and I was endeavoring to point that out.
Incidentally, there are things in your first post that do in fact suggest that you are basing your "careful analysis" on an idealized vision of the past, so it isn't entirely an hypothetical argument.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 12:53 PM (bZ7mE)
544
Another problem cops have is that some areas, you have to have total control and be ready to defend yourself or you get shot, stabbed, etc. So when you get into that mindset, and you run into someone like a 80 IQ guy with a BB gun or a gun-like stick, or a kid with a toy... you're still in that "oh God he might kill me" mindset. Its a tough place to be.
So terrible stuff happens like this last shooting. And the worst part is: this young cop had a sergeant with him who should have known better but was actively making the situation worse by yelling contradictory orders. How is someone supposed to crawl with their legs crossed and their hands behind their back??
So terrible stuff happens like this last shooting. And the worst part is: this young cop had a sergeant with him who should have known better but was actively making the situation worse by yelling contradictory orders. How is someone supposed to crawl with their legs crossed and their hands behind their back??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:53 PM (39g3+)
545
Ruh-Roh! Looks like Drudge has a female candidate dropping out of a race due to settling a sexual harassment allegation when she was in the private sector. Do we believe every claim of sexual misconduct, or only protected classes?
Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at December 15, 2017 12:53 PM (2X7pN)
546
To be honest, I've thought about this before as well, but cops are obviously taught to scream authoritatively in these situations. I guess the idea is that it scares the perp into just giving up?
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:51 PM (ALDN3)
basically. They're supposed to "take control of the situation." The thought being that if they intimidate everyone and get everyone on the ground with their hands out, the cops can safely search everyone THEN figure out what was going on.
Kind of a "shoot first, ask questions later" mindset.
Unfortunately, it tends to intimidate the shit out of people and get them freaked out, which leads to an escalation of the scenario.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:51 PM (ALDN3)
basically. They're supposed to "take control of the situation." The thought being that if they intimidate everyone and get everyone on the ground with their hands out, the cops can safely search everyone THEN figure out what was going on.
Kind of a "shoot first, ask questions later" mindset.
Unfortunately, it tends to intimidate the shit out of people and get them freaked out, which leads to an escalation of the scenario.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:53 PM (wmaTe)
Posted by: JEM at December 15, 2017 12:54 PM (2NtJa)
548
'How is having cops hanging out in a neighborhood looking for petty crimes to arrest people for preferable to a 911-driven police force? Break that down for me.'
Walking a beat used to be an important part of policework. Allowed them to know the people in the community and vice-versa, keep a better eye on things.
In many places it's just too dangerous to do it anymore.
Walking a beat used to be an important part of policework. Allowed them to know the people in the community and vice-versa, keep a better eye on things.
In many places it's just too dangerous to do it anymore.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:54 PM (ALDN3)
549
OT: A speech given in 2002 by the recently departed musician Pat DiNizio of the Smithereens to Young America's Foundation. He talks about being a conservative in the music business and about his 2000 Reform Party campaign for a U.S. Senate seat from New Jersey.
Sorry for the non tiny URL. [fixed. CBD]
http://tinyurl.com/y8lvg3rt
Sorry for the non tiny URL. [fixed. CBD]
http://tinyurl.com/y8lvg3rt
Posted by: mercenary13 at December 15, 2017 12:54 PM (GdxOI)
550
>>Specially if it's hanging around inshore....which a lot of hammerheads do.
If you want some fun go fishing for Bonnetheads on the flats in the Keys. Little tiny hammerheads but they are a hoot to catch on little tackle and they look every bit as weird.
If you want some fun go fishing for Bonnetheads on the flats in the Keys. Little tiny hammerheads but they are a hoot to catch on little tackle and they look every bit as weird.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:55 PM (/tuJf)
551
"Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:44 PM (NWiLs)'
Frankly, it depends on the incident they are discussing. But when something is a blatant, clear violation of policy or law, you won't largely hear that. Nobody is more invested in ensuring that law enforcement is carried out with the highest of standards than those performing the profession.
By the way, policing can be an ugly job and context matters. Many of these high profile incidents are presented out of context and without background. They will show you shooting or other very disturbing incidents to the average person that are an everyday reality for people who put their lives on the line every day. Ugly and violent? Yes. Illegal, unwise or unprofessional? In many cases- no. Anybody who has ever been shot at or in dangerous situations will tell you that.
Frankly, it depends on the incident they are discussing. But when something is a blatant, clear violation of policy or law, you won't largely hear that. Nobody is more invested in ensuring that law enforcement is carried out with the highest of standards than those performing the profession.
By the way, policing can be an ugly job and context matters. Many of these high profile incidents are presented out of context and without background. They will show you shooting or other very disturbing incidents to the average person that are an everyday reality for people who put their lives on the line every day. Ugly and violent? Yes. Illegal, unwise or unprofessional? In many cases- no. Anybody who has ever been shot at or in dangerous situations will tell you that.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2017 12:55 PM (VpIIl)
552
I have had a lot of retired cops as clients.
They are a clique unto themselves.
Constatnly reveling stories of their abuses of power: Pulling over Hot Women (Pussy Inspection), harassing hippies and punks...
I won't even get into the racist ones I guide out of SoCal. - Whoo boy are those guys a handful.
Also, they ALL smoke pot. Every last one of them.
They are a clique unto themselves.
Constatnly reveling stories of their abuses of power: Pulling over Hot Women (Pussy Inspection), harassing hippies and punks...
I won't even get into the racist ones I guide out of SoCal. - Whoo boy are those guys a handful.
Also, they ALL smoke pot. Every last one of them.
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2017 12:55 PM (8bEU0)
553
CBD has retreated into "you can't tell me what I
can't say" instead of addressing the substance of an argument before,
and this appears to be much the same sort of thing. It is annoying.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (bZ7mE)
What argument have you presented? That I may not be sufficiently expert at policing to critique it?
Bullshit.
I have been around guns my whole life. I have been trained in self defense, and taught it for awhile. I have lived in places that required me to be sensitive to my personal safety.
So telling me that I do not have sufficient expertise to fling the usual cop bullshit about "I was in fear for my life/he was reaching for what I thought was a gun/blah,blah blah" is a crap argument.
But...I am an intelligent man who can see and hear for himself. That should be expertise enough to analyze that video.
can't say" instead of addressing the substance of an argument before,
and this appears to be much the same sort of thing. It is annoying.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (bZ7mE)
What argument have you presented? That I may not be sufficiently expert at policing to critique it?
Bullshit.
I have been around guns my whole life. I have been trained in self defense, and taught it for awhile. I have lived in places that required me to be sensitive to my personal safety.
So telling me that I do not have sufficient expertise to fling the usual cop bullshit about "I was in fear for my life/he was reaching for what I thought was a gun/blah,blah blah" is a crap argument.
But...I am an intelligent man who can see and hear for himself. That should be expertise enough to analyze that video.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 12:55 PM (wYseH)
554
517 That is illogical if the desired outcome is that the situation is de-escalated. Because yelling at someone does not cause them to calm down, it causes them to be scared and intimidated. It causes more adrenaline to flow. Psychologically, it causes people to go in to "flight or fight" mode.
That only escalates situations.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:46 PM (wmaTe)
------
Wow.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion.
My opinion is you're an idiot on this topic.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2017 12:49 PM (8XRCm)
So, is it your position that yelling, screaming and pointing a gun is de-escalating behavior?
That only escalates situations.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:46 PM (wmaTe)
------
Wow.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion.
My opinion is you're an idiot on this topic.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2017 12:49 PM (8XRCm)
So, is it your position that yelling, screaming and pointing a gun is de-escalating behavior?
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 12:55 PM (NWiLs)
555
Another problem cops have is that some areas, you have to have total control and be ready to defend yourself or you get shot, stabbed, etc. So when you get into that mindset, and you run into someone like a 80 IQ guy with a BB gun or a gun-like stick, or a kid with a toy... you're still in that "oh God he might kill me" mindset. Its a tough place to be.
In the neighborhoods in question, the average IQ is 85. Ponder that for a minute.
In the neighborhoods in question, the average IQ is 85. Ponder that for a minute.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2017 12:55 PM (W4DyD)
556
Wow.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion.
My opinion is you're an idiot on this topic.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2017 12:49 PM (8XRCm)
Thank you for your well informed and insightful analysis.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion.
My opinion is you're an idiot on this topic.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2017 12:49 PM (8XRCm)
Thank you for your well informed and insightful analysis.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:55 PM (wmaTe)
557
"I have no right to criticize the current law enforcement quagmire that we are in."
That's a straight up lie. You said every police officer in America was corrupt because they were part of a corrupt system because a civilian jury ruled a way you didn't like.
But now that there's blowback, it's 'you're not allowed to criticize,' which is asinine out of the gate, because virtually everyone in America is criticizing that event. Blood libeling a million people because of a jury verdict you dislike puts you into the solid intellectual realm of BLM. Good work.
And you know the only other group of people I've heard on the Internet use that specific kind of retreat? Jew-haters. The kind that complain about how Jews control the government, have dual loyalties, inflated the Holocaust for sympathy, and so on, and when they're called on their bigotry they complain that the fact 'they're not allowed to *criticize* Jews' is proof of evil Jewish power. It's a dishonest motte-and-bailey, ego-protection exercise that, coincidentally, reinforces their conspiratorial idiocy.
Also, re: "credentialism." That's just a way to confess ignorance and try to pretend it doesn't matter. Your baseless opinions, blood libeling, and over the top whinging are valid and must be taken seriously, even though you have no experience in the matters at hand at all. But now imagine "snowflakes" and whining Leftists, complaining that the world isn't perfect, or hippie idiots who think every militaristic use of force is a "war crime" who, when challenged that they don't know what they're talking about if they haven't shouldered a ruck and been under fire, says that's dishonest "credentialism" and their opinions on what it means to be a soldier in a hostile land should be taken seriously?
FFS, you didn't even *mention* the statutes at issue. It was straight to 'national prosecutor/police conspiracy to protect murderers everywhere' which, somehow, glided over the defense and jury entirely.
But you're the victim, here; angry and petulant.
That's a straight up lie. You said every police officer in America was corrupt because they were part of a corrupt system because a civilian jury ruled a way you didn't like.
But now that there's blowback, it's 'you're not allowed to criticize,' which is asinine out of the gate, because virtually everyone in America is criticizing that event. Blood libeling a million people because of a jury verdict you dislike puts you into the solid intellectual realm of BLM. Good work.
And you know the only other group of people I've heard on the Internet use that specific kind of retreat? Jew-haters. The kind that complain about how Jews control the government, have dual loyalties, inflated the Holocaust for sympathy, and so on, and when they're called on their bigotry they complain that the fact 'they're not allowed to *criticize* Jews' is proof of evil Jewish power. It's a dishonest motte-and-bailey, ego-protection exercise that, coincidentally, reinforces their conspiratorial idiocy.
Also, re: "credentialism." That's just a way to confess ignorance and try to pretend it doesn't matter. Your baseless opinions, blood libeling, and over the top whinging are valid and must be taken seriously, even though you have no experience in the matters at hand at all. But now imagine "snowflakes" and whining Leftists, complaining that the world isn't perfect, or hippie idiots who think every militaristic use of force is a "war crime" who, when challenged that they don't know what they're talking about if they haven't shouldered a ruck and been under fire, says that's dishonest "credentialism" and their opinions on what it means to be a soldier in a hostile land should be taken seriously?
FFS, you didn't even *mention* the statutes at issue. It was straight to 'national prosecutor/police conspiracy to protect murderers everywhere' which, somehow, glided over the defense and jury entirely.
But you're the victim, here; angry and petulant.
Posted by: Apostate at December 15, 2017 12:56 PM (7d/38)
558
Ace, you should have a running daily sexual harassment scalp count!
Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at December 15, 2017 12:56 PM (2X7pN)
559
>>545 Ruh-Roh! Looks like Drudge has a female candidate dropping out of a race due to settling a sexual harassment allegation when she was in the private sector. Do we believe every claim of sexual misconduct, or only protected classes?
Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at December 15, 2017 12:53 PM (2X7pN)
Slut-shaming a slut is still slut-shaming.
Kinda thing.
Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at December 15, 2017 12:53 PM (2X7pN)
Slut-shaming a slut is still slut-shaming.
Kinda thing.
Posted by: Zod at December 15, 2017 12:56 PM (Bdeb0)
560
If you want some fun go fishing for Bonnetheads on the flats in the Keys. Little tiny hammerheads but they are a hoot to catch on little tackle and they look every bit as weird.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:55 PM (/tuJf)
Only if I can drag them to death behind my pickup truck after I catch them.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:55 PM (/tuJf)
Only if I can drag them to death behind my pickup truck after I catch them.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2017 12:57 PM (CPk08)
561
508 #455 #466 #477
and that is why you have to refresh five times a second if you want to be first.
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 12:47 PM (KdDCu)
Oh yeah. People here are fast. I was first on some thread completely by accident yesterday. I know that you guys like to announce "nood" after that on the previous thread, so I went to do it. There were 3 "nood" announcements in a total of 5 consecutive comments...
and that is why you have to refresh five times a second if you want to be first.
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 12:47 PM (KdDCu)
Oh yeah. People here are fast. I was first on some thread completely by accident yesterday. I know that you guys like to announce "nood" after that on the previous thread, so I went to do it. There were 3 "nood" announcements in a total of 5 consecutive comments...
Posted by: Moses at December 15, 2017 12:57 PM (I1YPs)
562
I'm not hearing any solution-oriented talk on the cop thing. Cops have to make split second decisions about whether their life is in danger and act accordingly. They are guided by specific procedures in how to handle those situations.
If a cop fires his weapon, we have a justice system to deal with what happened.
What needs to be changed? The procedures, or the justice system? I've known (and still know) some cops, and they all say the last thing they want to do is fire that weapon. Their lives become a living hell once they do, no matter the eventual outcome.
If a cop fires his weapon, we have a justice system to deal with what happened.
What needs to be changed? The procedures, or the justice system? I've known (and still know) some cops, and they all say the last thing they want to do is fire that weapon. Their lives become a living hell once they do, no matter the eventual outcome.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 12:57 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Ivan Spotnicov at December 15, 2017 12:57 PM (KdDCu)
564
Convicts complain about the Prison industrial complex, where its not about rehabilitation or even punishment, its about jobs and money. Its about a huge lucrative business where the more people shoveled in the longer, the richer the people running prisons get.
And while they take it a bit far and are convinced that's all its about, there is something to that: a system by which people who probably don't need to go to jail are being put in there because it enriches the system.
And while cops aren't really a part of this, they do contribute to it. Police are given discretion as to what they enforce and do not. Police leadership will choose what crimes they want the patrol officers to focus on and what areas to be in, usually the things that benefit them most politically. And that can be misused easily.
And while they take it a bit far and are convinced that's all its about, there is something to that: a system by which people who probably don't need to go to jail are being put in there because it enriches the system.
And while cops aren't really a part of this, they do contribute to it. Police are given discretion as to what they enforce and do not. Police leadership will choose what crimes they want the patrol officers to focus on and what areas to be in, usually the things that benefit them most politically. And that can be misused easily.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 12:57 PM (39g3+)
565
Mark my words, the House is going to be rocked in the coming 72 hours. Tick Tock.
--Luke Rosiak
Reading further down his feed, he is saying more than a dozen Representatives will resign.
--Luke Rosiak
Reading further down his feed, he is saying more than a dozen Representatives will resign.
Posted by: blaster at December 15, 2017 12:57 PM (WonQS)
566
While I do think I deserve it due to all the black thuggery, I do not like the implication that the thugs are my "homies".
Posted by: Hikaru at December 15, 2017 12:26 PM (WDCYi)
You don't "deserve it" any more than Dagny's sons "deserve it". But you and they need to understand that by appearing to belong to a demographic with a high rate of shoplifting, you get the hairy eyeball out of an abundance of caution by the store dicks.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 15, 2017 12:26 PM (WDCYi)
You don't "deserve it" any more than Dagny's sons "deserve it". But you and they need to understand that by appearing to belong to a demographic with a high rate of shoplifting, you get the hairy eyeball out of an abundance of caution by the store dicks.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 12:58 PM (oPNmq)
567
I don't have a man-bun.
I have firearms chambered from .22 through NATO 7.62 and .30-06, with a side of .45ACP.
I've killed plenty of stuff, including sharks. I'll even say that when I was 10 years old I killed an ant or two with a magnifying glass. When I was 10.
Even so: those people are the animals, not the shark. Anyone who treats an animal, even a shark, like that shouldn't be allowed to own firearms, or be alone with kids. There is something seriously broken in their heads.
I have firearms chambered from .22 through NATO 7.62 and .30-06, with a side of .45ACP.
I've killed plenty of stuff, including sharks. I'll even say that when I was 10 years old I killed an ant or two with a magnifying glass. When I was 10.
Even so: those people are the animals, not the shark. Anyone who treats an animal, even a shark, like that shouldn't be allowed to own firearms, or be alone with kids. There is something seriously broken in their heads.
Posted by: RobM1981 at December 15, 2017 12:58 PM (Jw49e)
568
If things were reversed would the shark have acted any different then the humans? Sharks and snakes and SJWs are scary. People instinctually want them dead.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2017 12:58 PM (YV+SU)
569
Posted by: Apostate at December 15, 2017 12:56 PM (7d/3
The larger issue isn't jury- or incident- specific, it's that the cops are acting in a manner "consistent with department policies."
Those policies (pretty much uniform across the policing industry) is what many of us take issue with.
The larger issue isn't jury- or incident- specific, it's that the cops are acting in a manner "consistent with department policies."
Those policies (pretty much uniform across the policing industry) is what many of us take issue with.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 12:58 PM (wmaTe)
570
>>Only if I can drag them to death behind my pickup truck after I catch them.
You can drag them behind a friggin skateboard.
You can drag them behind a friggin skateboard.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2017 12:58 PM (/tuJf)
571
567 I don't have a man-bun.
I have firearms chambered from .22 through NATO 7.62 and .30-06, with a side of .45ACP.
I've killed plenty of stuff, including sharks. I'll even say that when I was 10 years old I killed an ant or two with a magnifying glass. When I was 10.
So you're a white supremacist.
I have firearms chambered from .22 through NATO 7.62 and .30-06, with a side of .45ACP.
I've killed plenty of stuff, including sharks. I'll even say that when I was 10 years old I killed an ant or two with a magnifying glass. When I was 10.
So you're a white supremacist.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2017 12:59 PM (CPk08)
572
Mark my words, the House is going to be rocked in the coming 72 hours. Tick Tock.
--Luke Rosiak
Posted by: Hannity at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (r9UYA)
They're having a concert over the weekend?
--Luke Rosiak
Posted by: Hannity at December 15, 2017 12:40 PM (r9UYA)
They're having a concert over the weekend?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2017 12:59 PM (493sH)
573
3 YO Don Jr killed a squirrel just to watch it die. Don't fuck with Don Jr.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2017 12:59 PM (YV+SU)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 12:59 PM (fuK7c)
575
Lisa Bloom offering $750K to women to come forward against Trump breaking on Drudge....is that Hannity's Shoe drop?
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (m7LQK)
Not like she was soliciting false testimony on Craig's List.
Posted by: Rockysan99 at December 15, 2017 11:35 AM (m7LQK)
Not like she was soliciting false testimony on Craig's List.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 15, 2017 12:59 PM (Eu5eZ)
576
Also, they ALL smoke pot. Every last one of them
When I was a teenager my friends and I twice had cops pocket weed they took off us. One of them sniffed it and said "good stuff, going to be a fun night at my house" right to our faces. Also stole an unopened 6-pack off us.
When I was a teenager my friends and I twice had cops pocket weed they took off us. One of them sniffed it and said "good stuff, going to be a fun night at my house" right to our faces. Also stole an unopened 6-pack off us.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 01:00 PM (ul9CR)
577
'go fishing for Bonnetheads'
They are cool. One semester I had a student who worked on a fishing boat and he gave me a bunch, so we dissected them in zoology lab rather than the usual dogfish.
They are cool. One semester I had a student who worked on a fishing boat and he gave me a bunch, so we dissected them in zoology lab rather than the usual dogfish.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 01:00 PM (ALDN3)
578
Posted by: Apostate at December 15, 2017 12:56 PM (7d/3
Taking issue with systemic problems in law enforcement is akin to virulent anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial? The things I learn here....
Taking issue with systemic problems in law enforcement is akin to virulent anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial? The things I learn here....
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 01:01 PM (NWiLs)
579
"Reading further down his feed, he is saying more than a dozen Representatives will resign."
Cool! Maybe they'll forget about me.
Cool! Maybe they'll forget about me.
Posted by: All Franken all the time at December 15, 2017 01:01 PM (3myMJ)
580
How is having cops hanging out in a neighborhood looking for petty crimes to arrest people for preferable to a 911-driven police force? Break that down for me.'
Its about having a presence there that will tend to suppress at least open crime. The cop being there in the neighborhood as someone who you can run to for help or that is there so the local guys selling meth out of their garage shut the place up can be very beneficial.
I like the idea of cops being out in the world ready to react to bad things or help people in need rather than sitting eating donuts waiting for a call.
Like all things in life, it can be misused, but the benefits are definitely real.
Its about having a presence there that will tend to suppress at least open crime. The cop being there in the neighborhood as someone who you can run to for help or that is there so the local guys selling meth out of their garage shut the place up can be very beneficial.
I like the idea of cops being out in the world ready to react to bad things or help people in need rather than sitting eating donuts waiting for a call.
Like all things in life, it can be misused, but the benefits are definitely real.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:01 PM (39g3+)
581
What needs to be changed? The procedures, or the justice system? I've known (and still know) some cops, and they all say the last thing they want to do is fire that weapon. Their lives become a living hell once they do, no matter the eventual outcome.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 12:57 PM (3myMJ)
Policies.
I think the criminal justice system is, overall, pretty fair. I think the statutes are written to protect officers from frivolous criminal and civil charges, and at least in the state in which I worked in a prosecutor's office, are pretty fair. (Can't speak for all 50 states on that one.)
It's the police policies that need to change.
Because the issue at trial or in any investigation of police misconduct almost always comes down to "did this cop do something so egregious that it falls outside the scope of what any normal cop would do?"
Then the defense gets expert witnesses to say, "nope, we train cops to scream and yell and point guns at people and act like that. Officer Safety!!"
That "scope" needs to be redefined.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 12:57 PM (3myMJ)
Policies.
I think the criminal justice system is, overall, pretty fair. I think the statutes are written to protect officers from frivolous criminal and civil charges, and at least in the state in which I worked in a prosecutor's office, are pretty fair. (Can't speak for all 50 states on that one.)
It's the police policies that need to change.
Because the issue at trial or in any investigation of police misconduct almost always comes down to "did this cop do something so egregious that it falls outside the scope of what any normal cop would do?"
Then the defense gets expert witnesses to say, "nope, we train cops to scream and yell and point guns at people and act like that. Officer Safety!!"
That "scope" needs to be redefined.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 01:02 PM (wmaTe)
582
I have been around guns my whole life. I have been trained in self defense, and taught it for awhile. I have lived in places that required me to be sensitive to my personal safety.
I'll bet you've also been taught that if you don't have a fear for your life, you can't shoot & not seeing a weapon and the person doesn't pose an immediate risk because TWO people have guns trained on him.
I wonder why those cops weren't trained that way?
I'll bet you've also been taught that if you don't have a fear for your life, you can't shoot & not seeing a weapon and the person doesn't pose an immediate risk because TWO people have guns trained on him.
I wonder why those cops weren't trained that way?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 01:02 PM (GjTLE)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 01:02 PM (MINbv)
584
I go fishing for Bonnerheads every night at the local bathhouse. You are right, they are hoot to catch!!
Posted by: Shep Smith at December 15, 2017 01:02 PM (3BFzK)
585
https://goo.gl/RXGdXM
As they say: faster, please.
(WUWT link)
Posted by: JEM at December 15, 2017 12:54 PM (2NtJa)
And the source article headline:
"US researchers flock to join Macron's climate change project"
{ emph. mine }
Hey France24, probably not a good idea to describe scientists as a "flock".
https://goo.gl/RXGdXM
As they say: faster, please.
(WUWT link)
Posted by: JEM at December 15, 2017 12:54 PM (2NtJa)
And the source article headline:
"US researchers flock to join Macron's climate change project"
{ emph. mine }
Hey France24, probably not a good idea to describe scientists as a "flock".
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 01:02 PM (EzdLW)
586
577 'go fishing for Bonnetheads'
They are cool. One semester I had a student who worked on a fishing boat and he gave me a bunch, so we dissected them in zoology lab rather than the usual dogfish.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 01:00 PM (ALDN3)
This is what happens when you kill net neutrality.
They are cool. One semester I had a student who worked on a fishing boat and he gave me a bunch, so we dissected them in zoology lab rather than the usual dogfish.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 01:00 PM (ALDN3)
This is what happens when you kill net neutrality.
Posted by: Bonnethead Shark at December 15, 2017 01:03 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 01:03 PM (MINbv)
588
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 01:02 PM (wmaTe)
Ah, a lucid and direct answer. I have no opinion on the matter, but thanks for your input.
Ah, a lucid and direct answer. I have no opinion on the matter, but thanks for your input.
Posted by: Meremortal, no proseccutions, no peace! at December 15, 2017 01:04 PM (3myMJ)
589
Sorry, but so what if it's "just an animal." You sound like Rush Limbaugh turning his beach lights on to confuse the turtles.
I live in Florida, an am a deep sea fisherman, backcountry fisherman and diver.
The gratuitous torturing of any animal ia sign of a bad person. Period.
I live in Florida, an am a deep sea fisherman, backcountry fisherman and diver.
The gratuitous torturing of any animal ia sign of a bad person. Period.
Posted by: Bobby Ahr at December 15, 2017 01:04 PM (zmZ2x)
590
I like the idea of cops being out in the world ready to react to bad things or help people in need rather than sitting eating donuts waiting for a call.
Like all things in life, it can be misused, but the benefits are definitely real.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:01 PM (39g3+)
In my experience, it is more like the cops are posted up in your neighborhood at all times looking for any minor infraction to arrest you for. Might be different then in the cities in which I've lived. But I never felt happy when the cops were wandering around my neighborhood looking for crimes.
I didn't particularly care that my neighbor smoked weed. But it bothered me that cops were hanging out outside his house waiting to smell it so that they could bust in his front door and arrest him. (true story.)
Completely unnecessary. Welcome to the community, officer, please terrify us all some more. We love hearing doors being kicked in and seeing our neighbor hauled away in handcuffs and crying girlfriends and whatnot.
Like all things in life, it can be misused, but the benefits are definitely real.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:01 PM (39g3+)
In my experience, it is more like the cops are posted up in your neighborhood at all times looking for any minor infraction to arrest you for. Might be different then in the cities in which I've lived. But I never felt happy when the cops were wandering around my neighborhood looking for crimes.
I didn't particularly care that my neighbor smoked weed. But it bothered me that cops were hanging out outside his house waiting to smell it so that they could bust in his front door and arrest him. (true story.)
Completely unnecessary. Welcome to the community, officer, please terrify us all some more. We love hearing doors being kicked in and seeing our neighbor hauled away in handcuffs and crying girlfriends and whatnot.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 01:04 PM (wmaTe)
591
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Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 01:05 PM (EzdLW)
592
You are angry about me suggesting that it isn't
wrong for someone else to ask if you understand the problem.
Incidentally, there are things in your first post that do in fact
suggest that you are basing your "careful analysis" on an idealized
vision of the past, so it isn't entirely an hypothetical argument.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 12:53 PM (bZ7mE)
First of all, I am not angry at you. I am vehement, and a little frustrated that we are talking past each other.
Second, the commenter did not suggest that I didn't understand the problem, he suggested that I didn't have the credentials (military service and such) to understand the problem, and I will always call bullshit on that one.
Yes, I am basing my criticism of today's policing with a slightly idealized view of what it once was, and what it should be in the future. But the tone of policing in America has undoubtedly changed, and regular folk are now the enemy, and that simply did not exist a generation or two ago. The militarization of the police is partly responsible, the unions are partly responsible, and the Left is partly responsible.
wrong for someone else to ask if you understand the problem.
Incidentally, there are things in your first post that do in fact
suggest that you are basing your "careful analysis" on an idealized
vision of the past, so it isn't entirely an hypothetical argument.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 12:53 PM (bZ7mE)
First of all, I am not angry at you. I am vehement, and a little frustrated that we are talking past each other.
Second, the commenter did not suggest that I didn't understand the problem, he suggested that I didn't have the credentials (military service and such) to understand the problem, and I will always call bullshit on that one.
Yes, I am basing my criticism of today's policing with a slightly idealized view of what it once was, and what it should be in the future. But the tone of policing in America has undoubtedly changed, and regular folk are now the enemy, and that simply did not exist a generation or two ago. The militarization of the police is partly responsible, the unions are partly responsible, and the Left is partly responsible.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 01:05 PM (wYseH)
593
Human behavior can be guided by custom and habit and virtue, or it can be guided by the judicious application of brutal force. As a given people/culture, etc, 'free' themselves from the restraint of the former, they deliver themselves of necessity to the latter.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 01:05 PM (fA1SL)
594
Agree. That odd morphology has still not been explained.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (ALDN3)
Their depth perception must be awesome.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 12:34 PM (ALDN3)
Their depth perception must be awesome.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 01:05 PM (oPNmq)
595
Let him have it. It's not wise to upset a Wookiee pierced chimp.
Posted by: Banana Sucking Guy - I'm not gay, not that there's anything wrong with that at December 15, 2017 01:05 PM (oD0Pp)
596
false barrel alarm
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 01:06 PM (EzdLW)
597
I wouldn't mind seeing Ruth Bader Ginsberg dragged behind a pickup. The shark I have some reservoir of sympathy for.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2017 01:06 PM (YV+SU)
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 01:06 PM (MINbv)
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I think the biggest problem with cops today is the same problem with every other job. Ask any business owner or person in charge of hiring: what kind of human detritus do you have to shovel through to find even one decent worker? Cops aren't some select group of super humans, they have to work with the same pool of employable bodies as everyone else.
Our society has gotten so ground down into self indulgent childish stupidity that its hard to find someone good for any job, let alone a high responsibility, duty oriented, risky job like police.
I suspect the military is having the same sort of problems: 75% douchebag idiots and a small group of actual, capable, ready people. This happened in the late 60s, too. Suddenly the really skilled, deadly soldiers previously in Viet Nam was being replaced by a sea of drug hazed idiots.
So yeah problems in policing. And if you want solutions, its to clean up education and culture, to return to the roots of what built our civilization: virtue, love of country, family, and the positive traditions an ideals that our nation was founded on and built by.
Our society has gotten so ground down into self indulgent childish stupidity that its hard to find someone good for any job, let alone a high responsibility, duty oriented, risky job like police.
I suspect the military is having the same sort of problems: 75% douchebag idiots and a small group of actual, capable, ready people. This happened in the late 60s, too. Suddenly the really skilled, deadly soldiers previously in Viet Nam was being replaced by a sea of drug hazed idiots.
So yeah problems in policing. And if you want solutions, its to clean up education and culture, to return to the roots of what built our civilization: virtue, love of country, family, and the positive traditions an ideals that our nation was founded on and built by.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:06 PM (39g3+)
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The gratuitous torturing of any animal ia sign of a bad person. Period.
Posted by: Bobby Ahr at December 15, 2017 01:04 PM (zmZ2x)
I agree. But the penalty should be commensurate with the crime. A felony? come on!
Posted by: Bobby Ahr at December 15, 2017 01:04 PM (zmZ2x)
I agree. But the penalty should be commensurate with the crime. A felony? come on!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 01:06 PM (wYseH)
601
Some of you big bad men can drag my behind.
Posted by: Shep Smith at December 15, 2017 01:07 PM (3BFzK)
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The gratuitous torturing of any animal ia sign of a bad person."
I'm going with the gratuitous videoing is a sign of vapid stupidity...
I'm going with the gratuitous videoing is a sign of vapid stupidity...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at December 15, 2017 01:08 PM (MINbv)
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I agree. But the penalty should be commensurate with the crime. A felony? come on!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 01:06 PM (wYseH)
Just throw a line around his feet and tow him behind a boat.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 01:06 PM (wYseH)
Just throw a line around his feet and tow him behind a boat.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2017 01:08 PM (CPk08)
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Sorry, but so what if it's "just an animal." You sound like Rush Limbaugh turning his beach lights on to confuse the turtles.
I live in Florida, an am a deep sea fisherman, backcountry fisherman and diver.
The gratuitous torturing of any animal ia sign of a bad person. Period.
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.Agree. Inflicting needless pain on an animal indicates to me a flawed personality. I hunt and fish and yes I kill things but I don't take shots that are *iffy*, I try to kill as cleanly as I can and cause the least amount of pain I can to the animal.
Intentionally torturing or abusing an animal is wrong and is a crime in every State I believe.
Sorry, but so what if it's "just an animal." You sound like Rush Limbaugh turning his beach lights on to confuse the turtles.
I live in Florida, an am a deep sea fisherman, backcountry fisherman and diver.
The gratuitous torturing of any animal ia sign of a bad person. Period.
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.Agree. Inflicting needless pain on an animal indicates to me a flawed personality. I hunt and fish and yes I kill things but I don't take shots that are *iffy*, I try to kill as cleanly as I can and cause the least amount of pain I can to the animal.
Intentionally torturing or abusing an animal is wrong and is a crime in every State I believe.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 15, 2017 01:08 PM (+Dllb)
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I agree with Harry Paratestes. I also believe we need to look at reforming qualified immunity, have some form of personal liability for officer misconduct through personally-financed bonding or insurance so they have skin in the game, better firearms training, better training on the law and the Constitution, higher physical and psychological (especially psychological) standards, and more independent oversight.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 01:08 PM (NWiLs)
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The gratuitous torturing of any animal ia sign of a bad person. Period.
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Meh. It is likely a sign of immaturity and association with knuckleheads. Sharks and snakes and SJWs bring out the worst in people. Oh, and the Dutch.
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Meh. It is likely a sign of immaturity and association with knuckleheads. Sharks and snakes and SJWs bring out the worst in people. Oh, and the Dutch.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2017 01:08 PM (YV+SU)
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'Their depth perception must be awesome.'
Behavioral experiments suggest this is so.
BTW, everyone always assumed that the cephalofoil started off small (like in bonnetheads) and evolved to bigger sizes, but the DNA evidence suggests otherwise. It evidently started off big, like in wingheads, and the more derived forms are smaller.
Behavioral experiments suggest this is so.
BTW, everyone always assumed that the cephalofoil started off small (like in bonnetheads) and evolved to bigger sizes, but the DNA evidence suggests otherwise. It evidently started off big, like in wingheads, and the more derived forms are smaller.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 01:09 PM (ALDN3)
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Convicts complain about the Prison industrial complex, where its not about rehabilitation or even punishment, its about jobs and money. Its about a huge lucrative business where the more people shoveled in the longer, the richer the people running prisons get.
Evidence?
You'll pardon me for being a tad skeptical about complaints from convicts in the absence of substantive evidence supporting their contentions.
Evidence?
You'll pardon me for being a tad skeptical about complaints from convicts in the absence of substantive evidence supporting their contentions.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2017 01:09 PM (W4DyD)
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593 Human behavior can be guided by custom and habit and virtue, or it can be guided by the judicious application of brutal force. As a given people/culture, etc, 'free' themselves from the restraint of the former, they deliver themselves of necessity to the latter.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 01:05 PM (fA1SL)
I have always allowed selfishness to guide my life.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 01:05 PM (fA1SL)
I have always allowed selfishness to guide my life.
Posted by: sofa saver at December 15, 2017 01:09 PM (4u7kU)
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Christopher R Taylor at 270: I think it's perfectly normal for someone to want to go home safe at the end of his shift.
But I think we need people who are a little more courageous and self-sacrificing than us normal people, to be policemen and firefighters. And probably 95% of them are courageous and self-sacrificing.
It's known that cops stood idly by while kids were killed inside the school at Columbine.
It's fact that the DC police department fought three women who were abducted and repeatedly raped to SCOTUS...and won. The police have NO obligation to protect anyone. YOU have an obligation to pay them.
If you or I had done any of these shootings, you and I would be in jail.
And we're forced to watch the police police themselves. Which sometimes works. Often times, we watch (and pay) them to put on a charade.
The killing of dogs is indefensible itself, since the Post Office has far more interactions with no guns or shootings at all.
Shooting a hostage ten times during a high speed chase, and then lecturing the victims family that it's somehow everyone else's fault but theirs.
Shooting two women in a truck when LA police were wired looking for a single black guy driving a different color vehicle. And the police chief gets to walk into their hospital rooms. How would you feel about that?
Add to that the fact that police use the same bullshit "the gun went off" and/or "I can't recall" or "I blacked out".
But I think we need people who are a little more courageous and self-sacrificing than us normal people, to be policemen and firefighters. And probably 95% of them are courageous and self-sacrificing.
It's known that cops stood idly by while kids were killed inside the school at Columbine.
It's fact that the DC police department fought three women who were abducted and repeatedly raped to SCOTUS...and won. The police have NO obligation to protect anyone. YOU have an obligation to pay them.
If you or I had done any of these shootings, you and I would be in jail.
And we're forced to watch the police police themselves. Which sometimes works. Often times, we watch (and pay) them to put on a charade.
The killing of dogs is indefensible itself, since the Post Office has far more interactions with no guns or shootings at all.
Shooting a hostage ten times during a high speed chase, and then lecturing the victims family that it's somehow everyone else's fault but theirs.
Shooting two women in a truck when LA police were wired looking for a single black guy driving a different color vehicle. And the police chief gets to walk into their hospital rooms. How would you feel about that?
Add to that the fact that police use the same bullshit "the gun went off" and/or "I can't recall" or "I blacked out".
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 15, 2017 01:10 PM (326rv)
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'Intentionally torturing or abusing an animal is wrong and is a crime in every State I believe.'
Except don't criticize cock-fighting or you'll be accused of cultural insensitivity
Except don't criticize cock-fighting or you'll be accused of cultural insensitivity
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 01:10 PM (ALDN3)
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562 I'm not hearing any solution-oriented talk on the cop thing. Cops have to make split second decisions about whether their life is in danger and act accordingly. They are guided by specific procedures in how to handle those situations.
If a cop fires his weapon, we have a justice system to deal with what happened.
What needs to be changed? The procedures, or the justice system? I've known (and still know) some cops, and they all say the last thing they want to do is fire that weapon. Their lives become a living hell once they do, no matter the eventual outcome.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 12:57 PM (3myMJ)
Is that the same justice system where we watched (but the jury didn't) two cops play 'Simon Says Murder'?
We have cops even out in the WA boondocks here who have stolen trucks from businesses, picked fights with older/elderly people in parking lots, stolen drugs from impound and killed Indians for whittling in public.
You know how many of them have gone to jail?
Would you care to guess?
(not picking on you personally, just laughing at the idea of the 'justice system' punishing cops for shooting someone)
If a cop fires his weapon, we have a justice system to deal with what happened.
What needs to be changed? The procedures, or the justice system? I've known (and still know) some cops, and they all say the last thing they want to do is fire that weapon. Their lives become a living hell once they do, no matter the eventual outcome.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 15, 2017 12:57 PM (3myMJ)
Is that the same justice system where we watched (but the jury didn't) two cops play 'Simon Says Murder'?
We have cops even out in the WA boondocks here who have stolen trucks from businesses, picked fights with older/elderly people in parking lots, stolen drugs from impound and killed Indians for whittling in public.
You know how many of them have gone to jail?
Would you care to guess?
(not picking on you personally, just laughing at the idea of the 'justice system' punishing cops for shooting someone)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 15, 2017 01:10 PM (xJa6I)
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>>597 I wouldn't mind seeing Ruth Bader Ginsberg dragged behind a pickup. The shark I have some reservoir of sympathy for.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2017 01:06 PM (YV+SU)
Another thing about a Ginsburg is it has lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes...
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2017 01:06 PM (YV+SU)
Another thing about a Ginsburg is it has lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes...
Posted by: Zod at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (Bdeb0)
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I wonder why those cops weren't trained that way?
As meremortal noted above, they are. Then, whenever they discharge their weapon, they face an ocean of paperwork, they're benched until an investigation takes place, they go before a panel of people looking for bad stuff because their job is to bust bad guys, and its basically a really crappy time.
These cops, for whatever reason, thought they were in real danger. They were completely wrong and outrageously overreacted, but I'm sure they both felt genuinely in danger. The setting wasn't safe, the are wasn't safe, they've all heard stories or even known cops that were shot or killed in just that kind of situation, so scared.
Its not like the guy swaggered in and yanked his six-shooter like a crappy western, blew the smoke out of the barrel, spun it, and put it back in his rhinestone-encrusted holster.
He had bad judgment, and made a horrible choice, shooting a clearly harmless, surrendered, begging, weeping man. It was completely wrong. But I do think he really did feel his life was in danger, as irrational and mistaken as that feeling was.
As meremortal noted above, they are. Then, whenever they discharge their weapon, they face an ocean of paperwork, they're benched until an investigation takes place, they go before a panel of people looking for bad stuff because their job is to bust bad guys, and its basically a really crappy time.
These cops, for whatever reason, thought they were in real danger. They were completely wrong and outrageously overreacted, but I'm sure they both felt genuinely in danger. The setting wasn't safe, the are wasn't safe, they've all heard stories or even known cops that were shot or killed in just that kind of situation, so scared.
Its not like the guy swaggered in and yanked his six-shooter like a crappy western, blew the smoke out of the barrel, spun it, and put it back in his rhinestone-encrusted holster.
He had bad judgment, and made a horrible choice, shooting a clearly harmless, surrendered, begging, weeping man. It was completely wrong. But I do think he really did feel his life was in danger, as irrational and mistaken as that feeling was.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (39g3+)
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'I wouldn't mind seeing Ruth Bader Ginsberg dragged behind a pickup. The shark I have some reservoir of sympathy for.'
I feel ashamed, but I laughed.
I feel ashamed, but I laughed.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (ALDN3)
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Except don't criticize cock-fighting or you'll be accused of cultural insensitivity
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Or goat-fucking
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Or goat-fucking
Posted by: Muhammed Al-Mohammad Mohamad at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (vg8iE)
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Grew up on a farm... raised and butchered our own, chickens, pigs, and cattle... our methods of killing did not involve dragging.... pigs were the worst... intelligent, knew what was coming... " our response was "let's just get this done.."
Posted by: kraken at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (zSVEm)
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Heh. From the White House daily email:
"The Administration promised to cut 2 regulations for each new one added. Agencies blew that 2:1 goal out of the water, instead eliminating rules at a 22:1 clip."
"The Administration promised to cut 2 regulations for each new one added. Agencies blew that 2:1 goal out of the water, instead eliminating rules at a 22:1 clip."
Posted by: Meremortal, no proseccutions, no peace! at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (3myMJ)
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599 I think the biggest problem with cops today is the same problem with every other job.
It is a problem, but the problem is amplified because you're taking that person, handing him a gun, telling him to do whatever it takes to go home at night, and cloaking him with qualified immunity for his actions. If I sell car parts and hire a fuckup, I fire him and it's no harm no foul. If I'm a police department and hire a fuckup, people's rights get violated, or they get seriously injured or killed.
It is a problem, but the problem is amplified because you're taking that person, handing him a gun, telling him to do whatever it takes to go home at night, and cloaking him with qualified immunity for his actions. If I sell car parts and hire a fuckup, I fire him and it's no harm no foul. If I'm a police department and hire a fuckup, people's rights get violated, or they get seriously injured or killed.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 01:12 PM (NWiLs)
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608 Convicts complain about the Prison industrial complex, where its not about rehabilitation or even punishment, its about jobs and money. Its about a huge lucrative business where the more people shoveled in the longer, the richer the people running prisons get.
Evidence?
You'll pardon me for being a tad skeptical about complaints from convicts in the absence of substantive evidence supporting their contentions.
Some evidence can be found that in the California referendum on marijuana legalization, which promised to reduce jail populations significantly, the number 1 contributor by far to the anti-legalization campaign was the jail employees union.
They were determined to spend as much as they could to keep those jails full, no matter what.
Evidence?
You'll pardon me for being a tad skeptical about complaints from convicts in the absence of substantive evidence supporting their contentions.
Some evidence can be found that in the California referendum on marijuana legalization, which promised to reduce jail populations significantly, the number 1 contributor by far to the anti-legalization campaign was the jail employees union.
They were determined to spend as much as they could to keep those jails full, no matter what.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 15, 2017 01:12 PM (k1TUh)
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Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 01:08 PM (NWiLs)
I really think that changing the training changes everything.
Because when an officer says, on the stand, "I just did what I was trained to do." (or another officer, testifying says "He did what he was trained to do") that basically ends the discussion right there.
When my best friend went through the police academy, he was trained that if someone refuses to roll down the window at a DUI checkpoint, the cops should break the window and pull the "suspect" out through the window. Nevermind that that is NOT what the courts in my state have ruled on that subject.
But think about that -- if my buddy did that, and the person got injured or was legally carrying a gun and the cops felt threatened or whatnot... I mean, how much is that situation escalating?
99 times out of 100, the assholes flashing his ID through the window and not rolling it down is just being one of those difficult people who wants to post a video on youtube. Guy might be a difficult person to deal with, but smashing car windows and pulling people out puts everyones life at risk, and almost guarantees someone is going to jail that night over something that is NOT a crime in my state. Maybe the guy's car is in drive and when his foot comes off the break, someone gets run over. Maybe he has a legal gun that he's carrying in a holster, the cops see the gun while pulling him out of the car and shoot him. Maybe the guy gets cut up on the broken window, etc. etc.
Why the hell is that what they're training cops to do?
I really think that changing the training changes everything.
Because when an officer says, on the stand, "I just did what I was trained to do." (or another officer, testifying says "He did what he was trained to do") that basically ends the discussion right there.
When my best friend went through the police academy, he was trained that if someone refuses to roll down the window at a DUI checkpoint, the cops should break the window and pull the "suspect" out through the window. Nevermind that that is NOT what the courts in my state have ruled on that subject.
But think about that -- if my buddy did that, and the person got injured or was legally carrying a gun and the cops felt threatened or whatnot... I mean, how much is that situation escalating?
99 times out of 100, the assholes flashing his ID through the window and not rolling it down is just being one of those difficult people who wants to post a video on youtube. Guy might be a difficult person to deal with, but smashing car windows and pulling people out puts everyones life at risk, and almost guarantees someone is going to jail that night over something that is NOT a crime in my state. Maybe the guy's car is in drive and when his foot comes off the break, someone gets run over. Maybe he has a legal gun that he's carrying in a holster, the cops see the gun while pulling him out of the car and shoot him. Maybe the guy gets cut up on the broken window, etc. etc.
Why the hell is that what they're training cops to do?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 01:12 PM (wmaTe)
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I agree with Harry Paratestes. I also believe we need to look at reforming qualified immunity, have some form of personal liability for officer misconduct through personally-financed bonding or insurance so they have skin in the game, better firearms training, better training on the law and the Constitution, higher physical and psychological (especially psychological) standards, and more independent oversight.
Posted by: Insomniac
In short, everything a citizen has to deal with.
Take the cop video in question. Remove the cops. Insert a chl holder or homeowner in the same situation.
No threat present. Two firearms covering suspect. Homeowner plays Simon Says then shoots intruder.
Anyone want to lay money on the outcome?
Straight up odds.
Posted by: Insomniac
In short, everything a citizen has to deal with.
Take the cop video in question. Remove the cops. Insert a chl holder or homeowner in the same situation.
No threat present. Two firearms covering suspect. Homeowner plays Simon Says then shoots intruder.
Anyone want to lay money on the outcome?
Straight up odds.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (GjTLE)
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Also, I hate sharks.
Really don't like them, to phobia levels.
I don't like animal cruelty but sharks...kill 'em all.
Really don't like them, to phobia levels.
I don't like animal cruelty but sharks...kill 'em all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (xJa6I)
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You'll pardon me for being a tad skeptical about complaints from convicts in the absence of substantive evidence supporting their contentions.
Like I said, I think they exaggerate and are just complaining because "I dindu nuffin" but the system defaults to putting people in jail and it doesn't need to: many crimes would be better punished through other means. Its just easy and lucrative to put them in the box. People running jails are making money off that and they have a vested interest in more guys in prison for longer times.
Like I said, I think they exaggerate and are just complaining because "I dindu nuffin" but the system defaults to putting people in jail and it doesn't need to: many crimes would be better punished through other means. Its just easy and lucrative to put them in the box. People running jails are making money off that and they have a vested interest in more guys in prison for longer times.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (39g3+)
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So- there's no point at which your complete lack of experience in a profession discredits or negates your ability to effectively continue an argument?
That's an interesting fallacy.
One might be able to argue over the factual, material aspects of an actual situation. But as to material aspects which involve training, situational responses, professional/legal practices or things which require real experience, you're missing a critical aspects which is crucial to making a persuasive, cogent, informed, truthful conclusion.
That's an interesting fallacy.
One might be able to argue over the factual, material aspects of an actual situation. But as to material aspects which involve training, situational responses, professional/legal practices or things which require real experience, you're missing a critical aspects which is crucial to making a persuasive, cogent, informed, truthful conclusion.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (VpIIl)
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I admit I don't have much of an understanding of how the internet works, but I do know that ever since Net Neutrality went into place social media (Twitter, Facebook, YouTube) have all censored conservatives with impunity.
I'm happy to go back to the pre Net Neutrality days.
I'm happy to go back to the pre Net Neutrality days.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at December 15, 2017 01:15 PM (lZaEn)
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He had bad judgment, and made a horrible choice, shooting a clearly harmless, surrendered, begging, weeping man. It was completely wrong. But I do think he really did feel his life was in danger, as irrational and mistaken as that feeling was.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (39g3+)
But that isn't supposed to be the standard. It's one of a reasonable person. If I had a real, genuinely-held subjective fear that every black person, or person driving a Prius, or person with man-bun was about to kill me, should that legally justify my whipping out a gun and shooting them?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (39g3+)
But that isn't supposed to be the standard. It's one of a reasonable person. If I had a real, genuinely-held subjective fear that every black person, or person driving a Prius, or person with man-bun was about to kill me, should that legally justify my whipping out a gun and shooting them?
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 01:16 PM (NWiLs)
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Some evidence can be found that in the California referendum on marijuana legalization
See, this bothers me. However you feel about legalized drugs, something about it really annoys me and seems unjust.
If you're in jail for possession of pot, and pot becomes legalized... should you not now be set free? I mean, what you did may not even be illegal any longer. Why are you in prison???
See, this bothers me. However you feel about legalized drugs, something about it really annoys me and seems unjust.
If you're in jail for possession of pot, and pot becomes legalized... should you not now be set free? I mean, what you did may not even be illegal any longer. Why are you in prison???
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:16 PM (39g3+)
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Doesn't Net Neutrality infer some degree of Net Bias....?
Posted by: kraken at December 15, 2017 01:16 PM (zSVEm)
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But as to material aspects which involve training, situational responses, professional/legal practices or things which require real experience, you're missing a critical aspects which is crucial to making a persuasive, cogent, informed, truthful conclusion.
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Pfffft. We run healthcare, oil companies, grocery stores, food production, farming practices, ad infinitum and most of us have never worked a day in our lives!
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Pfffft. We run healthcare, oil companies, grocery stores, food production, farming practices, ad infinitum and most of us have never worked a day in our lives!
Posted by: The Feds at December 15, 2017 01:16 PM (vg8iE)
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He had bad judgment, and made a horrible choice, shooting a clearly harmless, surrendered, begging, weeping man. It was completely wrong. But I do think he really did feel his life was in danger, as irrational and mistaken as that feeling was.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (39g3+)
Yeah, but imagine an alternative universe, where the cops calmly said "everyone get to the ground and keep your hands out" then walked over the people on the ground, frisked them, handcuffed them, then asked what happened.
In that universe, we never would have heard of this case or many other cases that result in miscommunications due to complicated orders being screamed out while someone points a gun at your head.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (39g3+)
Yeah, but imagine an alternative universe, where the cops calmly said "everyone get to the ground and keep your hands out" then walked over the people on the ground, frisked them, handcuffed them, then asked what happened.
In that universe, we never would have heard of this case or many other cases that result in miscommunications due to complicated orders being screamed out while someone points a gun at your head.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 01:17 PM (wmaTe)
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627. Prius & man-bun? No reasonable prosecutor would seek an indictment; no reasonable jury would convict. Hell, ya might get a laurel wreath and a hearty handshake.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 01:17 PM (fA1SL)
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No threat present. Two firearms covering suspect. Homeowner plays Simon Says then shoots intruder.
Anyone want to lay money on the outcome?
Straight up odds.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (GjTLE)
First degree murder charges and conviction.
Anyone want to lay money on the outcome?
Straight up odds.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (GjTLE)
First degree murder charges and conviction.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (NWiLs)
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104
The guys who torture a shark like that likely do not have an algorithm that tells them not to do it to higher-order life forms.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (dZ756)
Kill it quickly and as humanely as possible, then eat it. This torturing of animals is not a great thing to do. Things still feel pain. We should endeavor to minimize that, just because.
When an individual treats any living thing so thoughtlessly, there is something profoundly broken in them.
The guys who torture a shark like that likely do not have an algorithm that tells them not to do it to higher-order life forms.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2017 11:36 AM (dZ756)
Kill it quickly and as humanely as possible, then eat it. This torturing of animals is not a great thing to do. Things still feel pain. We should endeavor to minimize that, just because.
When an individual treats any living thing so thoughtlessly, there is something profoundly broken in them.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (ymnmz)
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There's a hierarchy that isn't exactly science or
morality but you sort of feel it. The thing they did to that shark
looks like callous torture to me.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 12:52 PM (fuK7c)
Thing is, it was needless. Unless they were going to eat the shark.
morality but you sort of feel it. The thing they did to that shark
looks like callous torture to me.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 12:52 PM (fuK7c)
Thing is, it was needless. Unless they were going to eat the shark.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (oPNmq)
636
If I had a real, genuinely-held subjective fear that every black person, or person driving a Prius, or person with man-bun was about to kill me, should that legally justify my whipping out a gun and shooting them?
No. That would be horrible prejudice in every case except the man-bun guy.
No. That would be horrible prejudice in every case except the man-bun guy.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (fuK7c)
637
617 Grew up on a farm... raised and butchered our own, chickens, pigs, and cattle... our methods of killing did not involve dragging.... pigs were the worst... intelligent, knew what was coming... " our response was "let's just get this done.."
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Yep. Hogs are scary come culling time. The guys I knew used a .45 in their right hand and always had a sawed of sledge hammer in their left should the round slide off the skull. Hogs are some kind of dangerous when wounded. Had a friend whose ear was chewed off him by a wounded hog before his father could finish the hog off.
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Yep. Hogs are scary come culling time. The guys I knew used a .45 in their right hand and always had a sawed of sledge hammer in their left should the round slide off the skull. Hogs are some kind of dangerous when wounded. Had a friend whose ear was chewed off him by a wounded hog before his father could finish the hog off.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (YV+SU)
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625 So- there's no point at which your complete lack of experience in a profession discredits or negates your ability to effectively continue an argument?
That's an interesting fallacy.
One might be able to argue over the factual, material aspects of an actual situation. But as to material aspects which involve training, situational responses, professional/legal practices or things which require real experience, you're missing a critical aspects which is crucial to making a persuasive, cogent, informed, truthful conclusion.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (VpIIl)
Jury trials are also not empaneled experts.
That's an interesting fallacy.
One might be able to argue over the factual, material aspects of an actual situation. But as to material aspects which involve training, situational responses, professional/legal practices or things which require real experience, you're missing a critical aspects which is crucial to making a persuasive, cogent, informed, truthful conclusion.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (VpIIl)
Jury trials are also not empaneled experts.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (xJa6I)
639
Nothing will make you cold blooded like working on a high dollar game ranch in west TX.
Posted by: sofa saver at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (4u7kU)
640
But that isn't supposed to be the standard. It's one of a reasonable person.
I agree completely, and that should have been the standard that the jury considered. Was this act reasonable based on the situation?
I am willing to give cops a bigger benefit of the doubt than I do, say, Zimmerman or some random jobu, just like I do home owners rather than someone on the street being mugged.
But that standard cannot be so lax as to just allow a cop to gun down a helpless, clearly surrendered human being. It doesn't matter how that police officer felt at the time.
I agree completely, and that should have been the standard that the jury considered. Was this act reasonable based on the situation?
I am willing to give cops a bigger benefit of the doubt than I do, say, Zimmerman or some random jobu, just like I do home owners rather than someone on the street being mugged.
But that standard cannot be so lax as to just allow a cop to gun down a helpless, clearly surrendered human being. It doesn't matter how that police officer felt at the time.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (39g3+)
641
Except don't criticize cock-fighting or you'll be accused of cultural insensitivity
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Or goat-fucking
Posted by: Muhammed Al-Mohammad Mohamad at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM
Personally, I'm now for a little cultural insensitivity.
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Or goat-fucking
Posted by: Muhammed Al-Mohammad Mohamad at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM
Personally, I'm now for a little cultural insensitivity.
Posted by: The Morrocan Donkey at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (BPViE)
642
Oh and for you Cali morons, time is running out to stock up on ammo from online retailers.
Take a look at SGAmmo or ammoseek dot com while you can.
Take a look at SGAmmo or ammoseek dot com while you can.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 15, 2017 01:19 PM (xJa6I)
643
"I have no right to criticize the current law enforcement quagmire that we are in."
That's a straight up lie. You said every police officer in America
was corrupt because they were part of a corrupt system because a
civilian jury ruled a way you didn't like.
Posted by: Apostate at December 15, 2017 12:56 PM (7d/3
Nope. That's not what I said. I said that every cop in America is complicit because they turn their backs on the criminality of their fellow officers. That makes them criminals.
You can disagree, but don't manipulate what I said.
That's a straight up lie. You said every police officer in America
was corrupt because they were part of a corrupt system because a
civilian jury ruled a way you didn't like.
Posted by: Apostate at December 15, 2017 12:56 PM (7d/3
Nope. That's not what I said. I said that every cop in America is complicit because they turn their backs on the criminality of their fellow officers. That makes them criminals.
You can disagree, but don't manipulate what I said.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 01:19 PM (wYseH)
644
All right, maybe the man-bun wasn't the greatest example but I think my point is clear.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 01:20 PM (NWiLs)
645
'pigs were the worst... intelligent, knew what was coming... '
God, yes--when I was in the Philippines the villagers slaughtered a pig. Chased it around with the big bolo knife, the screaming was awful, like a human.
God, yes--when I was in the Philippines the villagers slaughtered a pig. Chased it around with the big bolo knife, the screaming was awful, like a human.
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 01:20 PM (ALDN3)
646
Hogs are some kind of dangerous when wounded. Had a friend whose ear was chewed off him by a wounded hog before his father could finish the hog off.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (YV+SU)
A friend of mine hit a hog driving a Capri. A mess
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (YV+SU)
A friend of mine hit a hog driving a Capri. A mess
Posted by: sofa saver at December 15, 2017 01:20 PM (4u7kU)
Posted by: SandyCheeks (formerly RushBabe) at December 15, 2017 01:20 PM (ihzOe)
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>>But that isn't supposed to be the standard. It's one of a reasonable person.
Not quite. It's a reasonable person with the same level of training, qualifications, etc.
So if the jury hears "this is what we train cops to do" then the cop was acting as a reasonable officer under the same situation would act.
If the jury hears "we train officers to de-escalate situations and not try to confuse terrified drunk people with complicated instructions" then the cop was NOT acting as a reasonable officer under the same situation would.
Not quite. It's a reasonable person with the same level of training, qualifications, etc.
So if the jury hears "this is what we train cops to do" then the cop was acting as a reasonable officer under the same situation would act.
If the jury hears "we train officers to de-escalate situations and not try to confuse terrified drunk people with complicated instructions" then the cop was NOT acting as a reasonable officer under the same situation would.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 01:20 PM (wmaTe)
649
The only practical purpose to this line of questioning is to get the other person to retract their position before the actual debate happens. Or to put it another way, if CBD is mistaken here, he's mistaken on the merits of the case, and his personal experiences are only important insofar as they lead him to either be correct or be mistaken. So if he's not mistaken, then there's no point in arguing. If he is mistaken, then you should argue on the merits of the case, rather than get him to cede the argument just because you know better than him what you're talking about. If that's true, then you should be able to make a persuasive coherent argument in favor of that fact, not just say "well you don't know, because you don't have the right experiences."
If I offer up an extended rant on how to make a mortise in a piece of wooden furniture properly, telling the world that all cabinetmakers are worthless a-holes along the way, than the fact that I haven't ever picked up a chisel and tried to carve wood myself does suggest that I might not understand the problems in doing so.
The poster that CBD is responding to did in fact write a great deal more, as CBD indicates in his post. CBD chose to focus in on this one line, which I believe to be a mistake on his part.
Incidentally, the original rant was long on assumptions and assertions, IIRC, so it seems a little wrong-headed to complain that people aren't responding in formal syllogisms. CBD also has in the past retreated to "you can't tell me what to do" instead of arguing the merits of a case, and this looks like more of the same to me, which is why I got involved.
If I offer up an extended rant on how to make a mortise in a piece of wooden furniture properly, telling the world that all cabinetmakers are worthless a-holes along the way, than the fact that I haven't ever picked up a chisel and tried to carve wood myself does suggest that I might not understand the problems in doing so.
The poster that CBD is responding to did in fact write a great deal more, as CBD indicates in his post. CBD chose to focus in on this one line, which I believe to be a mistake on his part.
Incidentally, the original rant was long on assumptions and assertions, IIRC, so it seems a little wrong-headed to complain that people aren't responding in formal syllogisms. CBD also has in the past retreated to "you can't tell me what to do" instead of arguing the merits of a case, and this looks like more of the same to me, which is why I got involved.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 01:21 PM (bZ7mE)
650
That's a straight up lie. You said every police officer in America
was corrupt because they were part of a corrupt system because a
civilian jury ruled a way you didn't like.
Posted by: Apostate at December 15, 2017 12:56 PM (7d/3
Nope. That's not what I said. I said that every cop in America is complicit because they turn their backs on the criminality of their fellow officers. That makes them criminals.
You can disagree, but don't manipulate what I said.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 01:19 PM (wYseH)
Well you ARE a notorious anti-Semite after all...
was corrupt because they were part of a corrupt system because a
civilian jury ruled a way you didn't like.
Posted by: Apostate at December 15, 2017 12:56 PM (7d/3
Nope. That's not what I said. I said that every cop in America is complicit because they turn their backs on the criminality of their fellow officers. That makes them criminals.
You can disagree, but don't manipulate what I said.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 01:19 PM (wYseH)
Well you ARE a notorious anti-Semite after all...
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 01:21 PM (NWiLs)
651
You drag $750,000 around you never know what you'll turn up.
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 11:45 AM (7HtZB) >>>
Boy, inflation is higher than I realized. Back in the 90s I heard you only had to drag a $100 bill around to snag a gold-digger.
Posted by: josephistan at December 15, 2017 11:45 AM (7HtZB) >>>
Boy, inflation is higher than I realized. Back in the 90s I heard you only had to drag a $100 bill around to snag a gold-digger.
Posted by: Gref at December 15, 2017 01:21 PM (AMIL/)
652
Except don't criticize cock-fighting or you'll be accused of cultural insensitivity
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 01:10 PM (ALDN3)
Barry O: Why would anyone want to fight them? Be a lover not a fighter
Posted by: harry lime at December 15, 2017 01:10 PM (ALDN3)
Barry O: Why would anyone want to fight them? Be a lover not a fighter
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2017 01:21 PM (493sH)
653
Yep. Hogs are scary come culling time. The guys I knew used a .45 in their right hand and always had a sawed of sledge hammer in their left should the round slide off the skull. Hogs are some kind of dangerous when wounded. Had a friend whose ear was chewed off him by a wounded hog before his father could finish the hog off.
Posted by: Puddin Head
Never understood why someone would go feral hog hunting with a bolt action rifle. Not when rifles with 20 & 30 round magazines are so cheap & plentiful. Watched too many videos of someone shooting and hitting or missing and the hog turns and chases them and they panic and can't jack another round into the gun.
Posted by: Puddin Head
Never understood why someone would go feral hog hunting with a bolt action rifle. Not when rifles with 20 & 30 round magazines are so cheap & plentiful. Watched too many videos of someone shooting and hitting or missing and the hog turns and chases them and they panic and can't jack another round into the gun.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 01:21 PM (GjTLE)
654
I am willing to give cops a bigger benefit of the doubt than I do, say, Zimmerman or some random jobu,
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (39g3+)
That statement would get you disqualified from a jury in my state, by the way.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (39g3+)
That statement would get you disqualified from a jury in my state, by the way.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 01:22 PM (wmaTe)
655
Yeah, but imagine an alternative universe, where the cops calmly said "everyone get to the ground and keep your hands out" then walked over the people on the ground, frisked them, handcuffed them, then asked what happened.
You know what happens when you do that? People start to argue, complain, disagree, walk away, etc. They don't comply. And usually a cop is outnumbered or at least in a situation where he has no significant backup. They have to get control right away.
You know why you yell at your kids? because when you talk to them calmly, most of the time you just get a discussion instead of obedience. Now imagine them being potentially armed and definitely hostile adults. And imagine you're surrounded by other adults, who may be just as hostile.
This whole "don't yell at people" thing is ridiculous. Yes, there are cases (as listed above) where it can make matters worse, but that's an extremely rare outlier, not some kind of policy-defining norm.
You know what happens when you do that? People start to argue, complain, disagree, walk away, etc. They don't comply. And usually a cop is outnumbered or at least in a situation where he has no significant backup. They have to get control right away.
You know why you yell at your kids? because when you talk to them calmly, most of the time you just get a discussion instead of obedience. Now imagine them being potentially armed and definitely hostile adults. And imagine you're surrounded by other adults, who may be just as hostile.
This whole "don't yell at people" thing is ridiculous. Yes, there are cases (as listed above) where it can make matters worse, but that's an extremely rare outlier, not some kind of policy-defining norm.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:22 PM (39g3+)
656
Nood cash -for-mishgrab claims
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 01:22 PM (ul9CR)
657
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 01:20 PM (wmaTe)
Problem there is it effectively removes objective reasonableness from the equation. And that should be addressed.
Problem there is it effectively removes objective reasonableness from the equation. And that should be addressed.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 01:23 PM (NWiLs)
658
This whole "don't yell at people" thing is ridiculous. Yes, there are cases (as listed above) where it can make matters worse, but that's an extremely rare outlier, not some kind of policy-defining norm.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:22 PM (39g3+)
I imagine every case where you yell at someone makes matters worse, but I'm going to the nood.
we shall continue this conversation another time.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:22 PM (39g3+)
I imagine every case where you yell at someone makes matters worse, but I'm going to the nood.
we shall continue this conversation another time.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 15, 2017 01:23 PM (wmaTe)
659
644. * Insomniac at MAGA checkpoint. Prius rolls up, halts.*
'LOWER YOUR FUCKING WINDOWS AND IDENTIFY YOURSELVES!'
* sees typical millennial car load, spots man-bun. Eye-twitch*
'YOU - ASPEN, OR WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY CALL YOU - OUT OF THE CAR!'
'LOWER YOUR FUCKING WINDOWS AND IDENTIFY YOURSELVES!'
* sees typical millennial car load, spots man-bun. Eye-twitch*
'YOU - ASPEN, OR WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY CALL YOU - OUT OF THE CAR!'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 01:23 PM (fA1SL)
660
646 Hogs are some kind of dangerous when wounded. Had a friend whose ear was chewed off him by a wounded hog before his father could finish the hog off.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (YV+SU)
A friend of mine hit a hog driving a Capri. A mess
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Had a girlfriend who owned a Capri. We drove it down to New Orleans and camped on the Pontchartrain. Good times. The raccoons would invite themselves to our evening campfires. Raccoons are very social.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (YV+SU)
A friend of mine hit a hog driving a Capri. A mess
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Had a girlfriend who owned a Capri. We drove it down to New Orleans and camped on the Pontchartrain. Good times. The raccoons would invite themselves to our evening campfires. Raccoons are very social.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2017 01:24 PM (YV+SU)
661
"Jury trials are also not empaneled experts.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (xJa6I)"
And generally presented with expert witnesses (in many cases dueling) testimony on which they must rely to assess the facts and decide the truth.But that's a diversion from the actual issue of arguing beyond your experiential knowledge and its critical nature to forming certain factual arguments and conclusions.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 15, 2017 01:18 PM (xJa6I)"
And generally presented with expert witnesses (in many cases dueling) testimony on which they must rely to assess the facts and decide the truth.But that's a diversion from the actual issue of arguing beyond your experiential knowledge and its critical nature to forming certain factual arguments and conclusions.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2017 01:24 PM (VpIIl)
662
623 Also, I hate sharks.
Really don't like them, to phobia levels.
I don't like animal cruelty but sharks...kill 'em all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (xJa6I)
You're dinner.
Really don't like them, to phobia levels.
I don't like animal cruelty but sharks...kill 'em all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (xJa6I)
You're dinner.
Posted by: Land Shark!! at December 15, 2017 01:24 PM (xFBfz)
663
653 Yep. Hogs are scary come culling time. The guys I knew used a .45 in their right hand and always had a sawed of sledge hammer in their left should the round slide off the skull. Hogs are some kind of dangerous when wounded. Had a friend whose ear was chewed off him by a wounded hog before his father could finish the hog off.
Posted by: Puddin Head
Never understood why someone would go feral hog hunting with a bolt action rifle. Not when rifles with 20 & 30 round magazines are so cheap & plentiful. Watched too many videos of someone shooting and hitting or missing and the hog turns and chases them and they panic and can't jack another round into the gun.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 01:21 PM (GjTLE)
Yep, a lot of hog farms in Iowa where I grew up. My family was friends with several. I was never allowed in the hog pens as a kid. If you feel down in there, there was a good chance they'd kill you. Don't know how true that is but those were some big hogs, not worth the risk.
Posted by: Puddin Head
Never understood why someone would go feral hog hunting with a bolt action rifle. Not when rifles with 20 & 30 round magazines are so cheap & plentiful. Watched too many videos of someone shooting and hitting or missing and the hog turns and chases them and they panic and can't jack another round into the gun.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 01:21 PM (GjTLE)
Yep, a lot of hog farms in Iowa where I grew up. My family was friends with several. I was never allowed in the hog pens as a kid. If you feel down in there, there was a good chance they'd kill you. Don't know how true that is but those were some big hogs, not worth the risk.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 15, 2017 01:24 PM (xJa6I)
664
No threat present. Two firearms covering suspect. Homeowner plays Simon Says then shoots intruder.
Anyone want to lay money on the outcome?
Straight up odds.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (GjTLE)
First degree murder charges and conviction.
Posted by: Insomniac
You don't count. I was looking for someone who would say the homeowner would get off just like the cop did. ;-)
Anyone want to lay money on the outcome?
Straight up odds.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (GjTLE)
First degree murder charges and conviction.
Posted by: Insomniac
You don't count. I was looking for someone who would say the homeowner would get off just like the cop did. ;-)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 01:25 PM (GjTLE)
665
662 623 Also, I hate sharks.
Really don't like them, to phobia levels.
I don't like animal cruelty but sharks...kill 'em all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (xJa6I)
You're dinner.
Posted by: Land Shark!! at December 15, 2017 01:24 PM (xFBfz)
See!
See!
This is what I'm talking about.
Friggin sharks...
Really don't like them, to phobia levels.
I don't like animal cruelty but sharks...kill 'em all.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 15, 2017 01:14 PM (xJa6I)
You're dinner.
Posted by: Land Shark!! at December 15, 2017 01:24 PM (xFBfz)
See!
See!
This is what I'm talking about.
Friggin sharks...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 15, 2017 01:25 PM (xJa6I)
666
Nood cash -for-mishgrab claims
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 01:22 PM (ul9CR)
Is it Yom Hamishgrab already?
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 15, 2017 01:22 PM (ul9CR)
Is it Yom Hamishgrab already?
Posted by: hogmartin at December 15, 2017 01:25 PM (y87Qq)
667
That statement would get you disqualified from a jury in my state, by the way.
Possibly but the law is deliberately designed to agree with me. Situations and people involved have to be taken into account, you can't pretend everything is equal and equivalent.
I said that every cop in America is complicit because they turn their backs on the criminality of their fellow officers.
And that's definitely a problem. Its an understandable problem, because you tend to end up feeling like a gang with the whole world against you as a cop -- particularly with citizens who presume you're evil and power hungry murderers -- but its wrong. And its even tougher because if you turn in a fellow cop, now every cop in the precinct, let alone force, thinks you're a squealing rat.
Its like being the guy that told on who was using the copier to take pictures of memes and put them around the office for a gag. Now you're the jerk who ruined fun and ostracized. Times ten.
Possibly but the law is deliberately designed to agree with me. Situations and people involved have to be taken into account, you can't pretend everything is equal and equivalent.
I said that every cop in America is complicit because they turn their backs on the criminality of their fellow officers.
And that's definitely a problem. Its an understandable problem, because you tend to end up feeling like a gang with the whole world against you as a cop -- particularly with citizens who presume you're evil and power hungry murderers -- but its wrong. And its even tougher because if you turn in a fellow cop, now every cop in the precinct, let alone force, thinks you're a squealing rat.
Its like being the guy that told on who was using the copier to take pictures of memes and put them around the office for a gag. Now you're the jerk who ruined fun and ostracized. Times ten.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:25 PM (39g3+)
668
Only those who have boobs or have ever touched boobs extensively should be allowed to express an opinion on boobs.
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 11:50 AM (EzdLW)
Awesome! I'm glad there's something I can talk about!
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2017 11:50 AM (EzdLW)
Awesome! I'm glad there's something I can talk about!
Posted by: NC Ref at December 15, 2017 01:25 PM (pAx+1)
669
I agree. But the penalty should be commensurate with the crime. A felony? come on!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 01:06 PM (wYseH)
The felony is that they were stupid enough, and dickish enough, to take video and post it to the Internet.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 01:06 PM (wYseH)
The felony is that they were stupid enough, and dickish enough, to take video and post it to the Internet.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 01:26 PM (oPNmq)
670
Nah. 20s. But they look more at my husband too, but I figured it was the Sicilian hue.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (eO5CB)
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Mediterranean? My BIL is Sicilian, he's pretty light complexioned.
Posted by: dagny at December 15, 2017 12:31 PM (eO5CB)
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Mediterranean? My BIL is Sicilian, he's pretty light complexioned.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 15, 2017 01:26 PM (/qEW2)
671
I watched that video and they had that guy doing Jazzercise. I was like WTF are they doing ?
I have had some terrible interactions with police and generally find most of them insufferable. I am not saying they aren't necessary but what a shitty lot, personality wise.
I have had some terrible interactions with police and generally find most of them insufferable. I am not saying they aren't necessary but what a shitty lot, personality wise.
Posted by: The Jackhole Somewhere on fried to a crisp Ventura Highway at December 15, 2017 01:27 PM (M+Lyo)
672
659 644. * Insomniac at MAGA checkpoint. Prius rolls up, halts.*
'LOWER YOUR FUCKING WINDOWS AND IDENTIFY YOURSELVES!'
* sees typical millennial car load, spots man-bun. Eye-twitch*
'YOU - ASPEN, OR WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY CALL YOU - OUT OF THE CAR!'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 01:23 PM (fA1SL)
*snort*
'LOWER YOUR FUCKING WINDOWS AND IDENTIFY YOURSELVES!'
* sees typical millennial car load, spots man-bun. Eye-twitch*
'YOU - ASPEN, OR WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY CALL YOU - OUT OF THE CAR!'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 15, 2017 01:23 PM (fA1SL)
*snort*
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 01:27 PM (NWiLs)
673
I'm getting my damn driver window fixed. it doesn't open. gees.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 15, 2017 01:28 PM (xFBfz)
674
He had bad judgment, and made a horrible choice, shooting a clearly harmless, surrendered, begging, weeping man. It was completely wrong. But I do think he really did feel his life was in danger, as irrational and mistaken as that feeling was.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (39g3+)
But that isn't supposed to be the standard. It's one of a reasonable person. If I had a real, genuinely-held subjective fear that every black person, or person driving a Prius, or person with man-bun was about to kill me, should that legally justify my whipping out a gun and shooting them?
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 01:16 PM (NWiLs)
Cowards should not be allowed to be police.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (39g3+)
But that isn't supposed to be the standard. It's one of a reasonable person. If I had a real, genuinely-held subjective fear that every black person, or person driving a Prius, or person with man-bun was about to kill me, should that legally justify my whipping out a gun and shooting them?
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 01:16 PM (NWiLs)
Cowards should not be allowed to be police.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 15, 2017 01:28 PM (Eu5eZ)
675
You don't count. I was looking for someone who would say the homeowner would get off just like the cop did. ;-)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 01:25 PM (GjTLE)
Aw, man.
*sheepishly kicks dirt*
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2017 01:25 PM (GjTLE)
Aw, man.
*sheepishly kicks dirt*
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 15, 2017 01:28 PM (NWiLs)
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I imagine every case where you yell at someone makes matters worse
Utterly, categorically, and historically false. Without the slightest shred of logic, and I'm convinced you know very well it is false from years of personal experience.
Utterly, categorically, and historically false. Without the slightest shred of logic, and I'm convinced you know very well it is false from years of personal experience.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:31 PM (39g3+)
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These cops, for whatever reason, thought they were in real danger.
Not quite. They MAY have thought this. They HAVE been taught to say this as a mantra, and to stick to it. As long as they do, the result is the same as if there was a real threat, or the cops were nuts, or wanted to kill someone.
And if a peasant had carved something on a gun, and had shot another peasant or a cop, I don't believe for a second that cops wouldn't demand that this be entered ointo evidence.
'You're fucked' does not equal 'I was in dear for my life'.
Not quite. They MAY have thought this. They HAVE been taught to say this as a mantra, and to stick to it. As long as they do, the result is the same as if there was a real threat, or the cops were nuts, or wanted to kill someone.
And if a peasant had carved something on a gun, and had shot another peasant or a cop, I don't believe for a second that cops wouldn't demand that this be entered ointo evidence.
'You're fucked' does not equal 'I was in dear for my life'.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 15, 2017 01:31 PM (326rv)
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I'm getting my damn driver window fixed. it doesn't open. gees.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 15, 2017 01:28 PM (xFBfz)
Good plan. A driver's door window that doesn't open could get you an equipment violation. Got to be able to roll it down to give hand signals, you know.
I'm getting my damn driver window fixed. it doesn't open. gees.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at December 15, 2017 01:28 PM (xFBfz)
Good plan. A driver's door window that doesn't open could get you an equipment violation. Got to be able to roll it down to give hand signals, you know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2017 01:36 PM (oPNmq)
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What do 'sexy vampires' suck? Asking for a friend.
Also is it ok to say, "Man, I'd like to pound my stake into that."?
Also is it ok to say, "Man, I'd like to pound my stake into that."?
Posted by: Abe Van Helsing at December 15, 2017 01:38 PM (kfcYC)
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Second, the commenter did not suggest that I didn't understand the problem, he suggested that I didn't have the credentials (military service and such) to understand the problem, and I will always call bullshit on that one.
Point (and distinction) taken. However, whether or not that was what he was doing, I do think that suggesting that someone who has never actually done something needs to do so in order to understand it is not de facto a fallacy. That is particularly true given the limitations of writing on a blog as a means of discussion - one can't write up and post a comprehensive dissertation here, so some allowance for shortcuts has to be made.
Yes, I am basing my criticism of today's policing with a slightly idealized view of what it once was, and what it should be in the future. But the tone of policing in America has undoubtedly changed, and regular folk are now the enemy, and that simply did not exist a generation or two ago. The militarization of the police is partly responsible, the unions are partly responsible, and the Left is partly responsible.
This is a different discussion.
My brother is both NG (Afghanistan vet) and a policeman, and I think he'd tell you that the militarization of the police is based on very solid reasons. I do know that his cross-training has been very beneficial to him and his depeartment and at least one person is still alive due to his military training and the medical equipment he liberated from military and kept in his patrol car (a good story that I've been asked not to tell on the internet, alas).
I am pretty ambivalent about the police as a whole and don't like a lot of things about them (and the military, for that matter). I do think that the distinction between the police and the military may be rather artificial, though. (I also increasingly see a continuum between crime and warfare, and am beginning to think that the distinction between the two is something of an illusion. Rather long to discuss here.)
Point (and distinction) taken. However, whether or not that was what he was doing, I do think that suggesting that someone who has never actually done something needs to do so in order to understand it is not de facto a fallacy. That is particularly true given the limitations of writing on a blog as a means of discussion - one can't write up and post a comprehensive dissertation here, so some allowance for shortcuts has to be made.
Yes, I am basing my criticism of today's policing with a slightly idealized view of what it once was, and what it should be in the future. But the tone of policing in America has undoubtedly changed, and regular folk are now the enemy, and that simply did not exist a generation or two ago. The militarization of the police is partly responsible, the unions are partly responsible, and the Left is partly responsible.
This is a different discussion.
My brother is both NG (Afghanistan vet) and a policeman, and I think he'd tell you that the militarization of the police is based on very solid reasons. I do know that his cross-training has been very beneficial to him and his depeartment and at least one person is still alive due to his military training and the medical equipment he liberated from military and kept in his patrol car (a good story that I've been asked not to tell on the internet, alas).
I am pretty ambivalent about the police as a whole and don't like a lot of things about them (and the military, for that matter). I do think that the distinction between the police and the military may be rather artificial, though. (I also increasingly see a continuum between crime and warfare, and am beginning to think that the distinction between the two is something of an illusion. Rather long to discuss here.)
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2017 01:47 PM (bZ7mE)
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I was on the road Monday and didn't have a chance to chime in on the cop issue, but better late than never. As a conservative, I've never quite been able to understand why I'm supposed to believe that government in all its forms is best when it's limited and governs least... except when it comes to law enforcement. As much as I respect the dangerous work that certain cops in certain towns do, and as much as I understand the necessity of having a constabulary in some form, I still believe that, like any public profession that involves the wielding of power, police work often attracts people who are drawn to the use and sometimes abuse of said power.
The militarization of our police forces is a regrettable trend that has exacerbated an "us vs. them" mentality. If you're now form of domestic military and you're patrolling Main St. USA, then who do you consider the enemy? It's sad that the days of Officer Bob, whom you could trust to get your kids home if they got lost, are gone, but the blame for that change lies just as much, if not more so, on the police forces that have chosen to increasingly view the public with suspicion than on any changes in our popular culture.
The issue extends beyond police brutality, such as it exists. I'm actually of the mind that it, like racism, isn't nearly the issue that some quarters would have us believe. The problem lies more in LEO's who have been trained to coerce and connive in order to find enough infractions to justify their continued presence on the streets (not to mention the revenue generating aspects of traffic enforcement and forfeiture). Anyone who's spent any time watching First Amendment Audit videos will note the very alarming trend of LEOs who are at best woefully under-trained on the basic rights that US citizens are born under and are at worst bullies and liars who seek to actively deprive fellow Americans of those rights. It's become painfully obvious that cops are trained and encouraged to lie and obfuscate in the service of making a collar, despite a myriad of court cases, most notably Terry v. Ohio, that limit their ability to detain and question people.
One more thing, related to that last point. It's also disappointing to me as a conservative to note that the SCOTUS justices who seem to most consistently rule in favor of the citizen over the government (i.e. the police) are the liberal judges. While their conservative counterparts consistently err on the side of giving LEOs a wide latitude of powers. A good recent example of this was Alito and Thomas dissenting in Rodriguez v. United States in 2015, when it was ruled that police cannot extend a traffic stop beyond its original scope, speeding for example, in order to call in a drug dog. I can't imagine what Scalia and Thomas were thinking there.
The militarization of our police forces is a regrettable trend that has exacerbated an "us vs. them" mentality. If you're now form of domestic military and you're patrolling Main St. USA, then who do you consider the enemy? It's sad that the days of Officer Bob, whom you could trust to get your kids home if they got lost, are gone, but the blame for that change lies just as much, if not more so, on the police forces that have chosen to increasingly view the public with suspicion than on any changes in our popular culture.
The issue extends beyond police brutality, such as it exists. I'm actually of the mind that it, like racism, isn't nearly the issue that some quarters would have us believe. The problem lies more in LEO's who have been trained to coerce and connive in order to find enough infractions to justify their continued presence on the streets (not to mention the revenue generating aspects of traffic enforcement and forfeiture). Anyone who's spent any time watching First Amendment Audit videos will note the very alarming trend of LEOs who are at best woefully under-trained on the basic rights that US citizens are born under and are at worst bullies and liars who seek to actively deprive fellow Americans of those rights. It's become painfully obvious that cops are trained and encouraged to lie and obfuscate in the service of making a collar, despite a myriad of court cases, most notably Terry v. Ohio, that limit their ability to detain and question people.
One more thing, related to that last point. It's also disappointing to me as a conservative to note that the SCOTUS justices who seem to most consistently rule in favor of the citizen over the government (i.e. the police) are the liberal judges. While their conservative counterparts consistently err on the side of giving LEOs a wide latitude of powers. A good recent example of this was Alito and Thomas dissenting in Rodriguez v. United States in 2015, when it was ruled that police cannot extend a traffic stop beyond its original scope, speeding for example, in order to call in a drug dog. I can't imagine what Scalia and Thomas were thinking there.
Posted by: KGB at December 15, 2017 01:56 PM (AY0uz)
Posted by: wfd426 at December 15, 2017 02:12 PM (/Buod)
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PS after at least a decade of lurking, I think that was my first comment.
Going back to lurking now.
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Going back to lurking now.
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Posted by: wfd426 at December 15, 2017 02:13 PM (/Buod)
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Free mustache rides may be on the menu at Sharkland.
Posted by: KGB at December 15, 2017 02:22 PM (AY0uz)
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Dragging the shark
It used to be 'common knowledge' in some areas that the easiest/fastest way to kill a shark was to drag it backwards behind a boat.
Now we know that this is stupid, but I have met some individuals that still believe this
It used to be 'common knowledge' in some areas that the easiest/fastest way to kill a shark was to drag it backwards behind a boat.
Now we know that this is stupid, but I have met some individuals that still believe this
Posted by: PMRich at December 15, 2017 02:30 PM (w5Qj0)
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Its not like the guy swaggered in and yanked his six-shooter like a crappy western, blew the smoke out of the barrel, spun it, and put it back in his rhinestone-encrusted holster.
He had bad judgment, and made a horrible choice, shooting a clearly harmless, surrendered, begging, weeping man. It was completely wrong. But I do think he really did feel his life was in danger, as irrational and mistaken as that feeling was.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (39g3+)
What was not allowed as evidence at the trial?
The fact that he had a custom engraved dust cover on his rifle that said "You're Fucked".
As to the rest of your comment I've copied, I'd only ask if that is the kind of person you want to have come to your house if you call the police?
He had bad judgment, and made a horrible choice, shooting a clearly harmless, surrendered, begging, weeping man. It was completely wrong. But I do think he really did feel his life was in danger, as irrational and mistaken as that feeling was.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2017 01:11 PM (39g3+)
What was not allowed as evidence at the trial?
The fact that he had a custom engraved dust cover on his rifle that said "You're Fucked".
As to the rest of your comment I've copied, I'd only ask if that is the kind of person you want to have come to your house if you call the police?
Posted by: Corset Makers Local 642 at December 15, 2017 02:31 PM (z79tQ)
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Nope. Worse.
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Posted by: wfd426 at December 15, 2017 02:12 PM (/Buod)
Wow.
http ://shark-con.com/1275-2/
Posted by: wfd426 at December 15, 2017 02:12 PM (/Buod)
Wow.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2017 03:22 PM (wYseH)
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"341
Bruce Ohr to testify before Congress on Monday."
Victim of a botched robbery in Fort Marcy Park early Sunday morning.
Bruce Ohr to testify before Congress on Monday."
Victim of a botched robbery in Fort Marcy Park early Sunday morning.
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at December 15, 2017 03:59 PM (P/ALc)
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"So, apparently, if I didn't serve in the military and wasn't deployed to a combat zone I have no right to criticize the current law enforcement quagmire that we are in."
Really, a quagmire. I retired from the Marine Corps and than became a cop until retiring in 2015. Majority of cops want to do their job and go home though does not mean they are robots that do not make mistakes or a few are just bad people. When a kid in the sixties; a cop would have beat my ass for looking at him cross-eyed. Also, back then cops could shoot a non-violent fleeing felon. People have been watching too much old tv and movies.
Really, a quagmire. I retired from the Marine Corps and than became a cop until retiring in 2015. Majority of cops want to do their job and go home though does not mean they are robots that do not make mistakes or a few are just bad people. When a kid in the sixties; a cop would have beat my ass for looking at him cross-eyed. Also, back then cops could shoot a non-violent fleeing felon. People have been watching too much old tv and movies.
Posted by: YatYas at December 15, 2017 05:10 PM (xN9Un)
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Also wish more people would become volunteers at their local agency to get a better look at the daily workings. Of course there will always be some bad cops that people need to make complaints about. Good example is convicted former CHP Craig Peyer. Cara Knott was not his first unlawful stop, but was his last after he killed her.
Posted by: YatYas at December 15, 2017 05:19 PM (xN9Un)
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I'm late to the conversation, but I'd like to chime in on the topic.
I'm a Navy veteran and have been a police officer in San Antonio for 25 years. What I have to say only pertains to SAPD since I don't have knowledge of other agencies.
Over the years I have had several friends killed in the line of duty. I have also seen bad officers get fired and some of the really bad ones have even done prison time. The bad ones are few.
I personally have never smoked marijuana nor have I taken any illegal drugs. We get drug tested often and every once in a while somebody pops positive and they are fired.
We don't cover for bad officers and we don't police ourselves. We have a civilian review board made up of SJW to keep an eye on us.
The body cameras and cameras in our patrol vehicles are our friends. It might surprise some of y'all, but the general public often lie to the police and specifically Internal Affairs. Since we got the cameras more officers have been exonerated than have been implicated.
We have annual training and part of our training is deescalation. None of us want to shoot anybody. The vast majority of us take pride in doing our job professionally and the citizens of San Antonio appear to appreciate the job we do.
The officers in the video that started this conversation were clearly wrong, but I don't understand people painting all police officers with the same brush.
Back to lurking.
I'm a Navy veteran and have been a police officer in San Antonio for 25 years. What I have to say only pertains to SAPD since I don't have knowledge of other agencies.
Over the years I have had several friends killed in the line of duty. I have also seen bad officers get fired and some of the really bad ones have even done prison time. The bad ones are few.
I personally have never smoked marijuana nor have I taken any illegal drugs. We get drug tested often and every once in a while somebody pops positive and they are fired.
We don't cover for bad officers and we don't police ourselves. We have a civilian review board made up of SJW to keep an eye on us.
The body cameras and cameras in our patrol vehicles are our friends. It might surprise some of y'all, but the general public often lie to the police and specifically Internal Affairs. Since we got the cameras more officers have been exonerated than have been implicated.
We have annual training and part of our training is deescalation. None of us want to shoot anybody. The vast majority of us take pride in doing our job professionally and the citizens of San Antonio appear to appreciate the job we do.
The officers in the video that started this conversation were clearly wrong, but I don't understand people painting all police officers with the same brush.
Back to lurking.
Posted by: Officer Friendly at December 15, 2017 05:22 PM (vPa8F)
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"When I got out of the academy, Chicago PD started at about $28k/year (2001). But I did deploy in support of OEF, with the BSM and the TBI to prove it. Did I see you over there somewhere, CBD?"
Just wondering if this "xe" was a secretary or a dispatcher 'cause the numbers don't match "xe's" claim.
Just wondering if this "xe" was a secretary or a dispatcher 'cause the numbers don't match "xe's" claim.
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