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Strzok Wrote That Trump Could Not Be Permitted to Become President, and That an "Insurance Policy" Was Necessary
Jim Jordan connected up two of Strzok's most conspiracy-suggesting outbursts to the timing of the the FBI's -- probably actually Strzok's -- application for a FISA warrant to "spy on Americans."
That video is below, but here are the two text chains he focuses on.Strzok/Page texts
— Shannon Bream (@ShannonBream) December 13, 2017
LP – And maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace. (links to NYT article)
PS – ... I can protect our country at many levels, not sure if that helps
Text-from Peter Strzok to Lisa Page (Andy is Andrew McCabe): "I want to believe the path u threw out 4 consideration in Andy's office-that there's no way he gets elected-but I'm afraid we can't take that risk.It's like an insurance policy in unlikely event u die be4 you're 40"
— Bret Baier (@BretBaier) December 13, 2017
Feb. 27, 2016: Strzok interviews Hillary aide Jake Sullvan
— Chuck Ross (@ChuckRossDC) December 13, 2017
March 2016: Strzok writes: "Hillary should win 100,000,000 – 0."
Says he'll vote for her
April/May/June/July: Interviews Huma, Cheryl Mills & Hillary
July 5: Hillary clearedhttps://t.co/p7DwcMNft2 @dailycaller
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: zek at December 13, 2017 12:20 PM (LGXGf)
Posted by: wooga at December 13, 2017 12:21 PM (uCYAx)
Posted by: George Strzokanza at December 13, 2017 12:21 PM (87y4e)
Posted by: IC at December 13, 2017 12:23 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: zek at December 13, 2017 12:25 PM (LGXGf)
He obviously knows what's good for us and the country.
Top men indeed.
Posted by: dananjcon at December 13, 2017 12:25 PM (xqfqx)
Posted by: Ever at December 13, 2017 12:25 PM (wQ1Qo)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 12:25 PM (AM1GF)
It seems to me that he was implying that they had a plan to go after Trump using the powers of the state based on a phony Russia dossier that they had helped create.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:25 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 12:25 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 12:26 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: CNN at December 13, 2017 12:26 PM (tbOMB)
I just wish he'd own up to the date of Mrs. Uffington.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 13, 2017 12:26 PM (pKqmv)
High treason. Plain and simple.
This guy needs to Strzok out.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2017 12:26 PM (8gDQu)
However, pulling the Strzok is an excellent start. DUde must have been texting a lot of people, not just Page.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2017 12:26 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: x at December 13, 2017 12:26 PM (nFwvY)
Herr Mueller could possibly have compromised the entire "special counsel" investigation depending what he knew about Strzok.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 13, 2017 12:26 PM (I/obm)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (tbOMB)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (XHDFG)
It is fucking treason, pure and simple.. line 'em up on a firing squad..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (so+oy)
https://twitter.com/AndrewCMcCarthy/status/940913989189554182
"#Strzok & Page texts look like a both nothing - no hint of corruption in their jobs. Lots of people (me included) speak crudely in private about politics. If you're ok w/ Trump's outbursts, I don't see getting whipped over this BS."
I will say here what I said on twitter: Bluntly, this makes me believe that when Mr. McCarthy was a prosecutor, he let personal animus drive his decisions regarding his exercise of prosecutorial discretion. Yes, that is a direct attack on his integrity and I mean it as such.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Winona at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (87y4e)
Are these texts dated as you know they are?
Posted by: MAGA at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (Rh8KC)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (I/obm)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (k1TUh)
I'm making the call: Strzok will be the fall guy.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 12:25 PM (AM1GF)
Agreed... and then the Left will use this somehow to virtue signal as cover to keep on with their Deep State Coup program...
Posted by: kraken at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (zSVEm)
And the reason it is being shown to be true is because as I have been saying for fucking months and been hammered for it with insults is because there is an ongoing OIG investigation that is uncovering all this shit.
Yea, I feel vindicated.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Under Fire-Moldova Curious at December 13, 2017 12:28 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose.
Wait, can you attack something that doesn't exist?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 12:28 PM (AM1GF)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 12:25 PM (AM1GF)
If they have to bail out of this stupid investigation because it involves Hillary's collusion with Russia, then yes, blaming him and his paramour would be the correct tactic.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 12:28 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 12:28 PM (BPzCo)
Not a smidgeon!
Posted by: some Indonesian dude at December 13, 2017 12:28 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 12:28 PM (Iz8Py)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at December 13, 2017 12:28 PM (mpXpK)
You should read his update. He claims his earlier claim was based on a partial review of the tweets and did not include the ones that showed collusion against Trump.
He has at least admitted his mistake.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:29 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: It's me donna at December 13, 2017 12:29 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 12:30 PM (cAnNx)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 12:30 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 12:28 PM (AM1GF)
I was being polite.
All this stuff that's coming out is stuff that would have you mocked as being a jaunty propeller tin foil beanie hat wearer who has a wall covered with yarn strings connecting pictures.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 12:30 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: pookysgirl at December 13, 2017 12:30 PM (XKZwp)
You may want to wait until the end before you declare vindication.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 12:30 PM (2DOZq)
Wake me when someone is held accountable, fired or actually jailed for all the treason going on......
Posted by: Sponge at December 13, 2017 12:30 PM (xttKs)
McCarthy's true colors are being revealed, like a centuries old painting that is undergoing restoration.
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 12:30 PM (Iz8Py)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 12:25 PM (AM1GF)
Lee Majors hit hardest
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 12:31 PM (493sH)
you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said
anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing
is frowned upon... you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices, and I
tell you, people do that all the time.
Posted by: George Strzokanza at December 13, 2017 12:21 PM
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That made me laugh.
Thank you.
Posted by: shibumi at December 13, 2017 12:31 PM (aT+Bx)
Not sure anyone will "fall." Who's to say the IG report will say anything "bad."?
Posted by: It's me donna at December 13, 2017 12:31 PM (O2RFr)
It does seem like the IG is doing his job, or why else would these texts have even seen the light of day.. Horowitz is doing the investigation Mueller should have been doing all along..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 13, 2017 12:31 PM (so+oy)
Everything we suspected was true is being shown to be true.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 12:25 PM (NWiLs)
And nothing is going to happen to them.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 12:31 PM (UBzPO)
Msm
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 12:31 PM (BPzCo)
Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at December 13, 2017 12:31 PM (vtcmf)
"#Strzok & Page texts look like a both nothing - no hint of corruption in their jobs. Lots of people (me included) speak crudely in private about politics. If you're ok w/ Trump's outbursts, I don't see getting whipped over this BS."
hey McCarthy, a government employee is not an elected politician. they aren't allowed to politik on our dime, and they are supposed to be fired, prosecuted, and stripped of their pensions when they do it anyway. in fact, a professional government employee should keep his piehole shut about politics at all times.
Posted by: x at December 13, 2017 12:32 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 12:32 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at December 13, 2017 12:32 PM (Sda6L)
Why? I didn't say that everyone would get the result they wanted. I said there was a fucking investigation and guess what, there was and this is the reason we know what we do today.
Besides, nobody bothered to check the facts before attacking me so no, I will not wait.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:32 PM (/tuJf)
Wake me when someone is held accountable, fired or actually jailed for all the treason going on......
Posted by: Sponge at December 13, 2017 12:30 PM (xttKs)
This. Nothing ever happens to these leftist bastards. See Lerner, Koskinen etc.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 12:32 PM (493sH)
I mean, what a distraction, and a means of watering down his support.
Posted by: kraken at December 13, 2017 12:32 PM (zSVEm)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 13, 2017 12:32 PM (KP5rU)
Wake me when someone is held accountable, fired or actually jailed for all the treason going on......
Posted by: Sponge
^^^^^^^^
THIS!
Keep hearing that Sessions is gonna unleash hell on these miscreants ANY DAY NOW....
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2017 12:32 PM (ftdxp)
that when Mr. McCarthy was a prosecutor, he let personal animus drive
his decisions regarding his exercise of prosecutorial discretion. Yes,
that is a direct attack on his integrity and I mean it as such.
Yup, I'd say it's warranted.
This is kinda reminding me of that show "Billions" where the NY AG says bluntly that anyone who is successful on Wall Street is a defacto criminal, and then sets about doing all sorts of sketchy things to catch these criminals because he is so driven by his haaaate for them.
There's a line between hating the crime and being so driven by hate for your target that you lose all perspective of right and wrong. Clearly Strocz and others were so convinced of the righteousness of their goal that no activity was off-limits.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2017 12:33 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: MAGA at December 13, 2017 12:33 PM (Rh8KC)
What sort of idiot leaves a message trail a mile wide and 12 miles long? If you are going to be a felon, you'd think you would be better at feloniating, or fellating, or whatever the tense would be....
These people who are soooo much smarter than we are are not so very intelligent, are they?
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2017 12:33 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose.
I remember when said wall would have Reptoids, Bigfoot, Hollow Earth Nazis, a few Fiendish Flouridators, and maybe Vatican Bank instead of a bunch of highly politicized idiots.
We can't even get good conspiracies any more.
The sad thing is, these idiots are winning...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 12:33 PM (AM1GF)
He knits these together to show that Strzok was a man who considered himself the last insurance policy against a Trump presidency
Help us, Obi Wan Strokeoff. You're our only hope
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 12:33 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Under Fire-Moldova Curious at December 13, 2017 12:33 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 12:25 PM (AM1GF)
Clicked in to post this as well. However, like the sexual harassment stuff there may be just too much obvious stuff developing for the establishment to rebury things.
Posted by: Keith at December 13, 2017 12:33 PM (USf3s)
Posted by: It's me donna at December 13, 2017 12:33 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 12:33 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 12:26 PM (hLRSq)
Arrogant? Certainly.
Fools? Not at all.
They know - to an absolute, rock-solid certainty that nothing will happen to them.
They are untouchable.
Hey, can somebody give Mike Lindell a call? I think old Recuse and Snooze needs a comfier pillow.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 13, 2017 12:33 PM (kqsXK)
neat, eh?
Posted by: hidelyheaux at December 13, 2017 12:33 PM (7JNC0)
If the fake dossier was used to obtain the warrant that started the whole fake investigation, wouldn't anything they discover after that be obsolete due to the "fruit of the poisonous tree"?
Posted by: SideFx at December 13, 2017 12:34 PM (1hiZs)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at December 13, 2017 12:32 PM (Sda6L)
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Wait wut??
I thought Lois Lerner was the smarmy smug lil bastard.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 12:34 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Billy Gilbert c 1940 at December 13, 2017 12:34 PM (ILitO)
You were right.
Big nose.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 12:34 PM (XHDFG)
He has at least admitted his mistake.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:29 PM (/tuJf)
I really like Andrew McCarthy - he's a good guy who's done yoeman's work on a lot of things - but he has a horrible history of vouching for the worst sorts of lowlife dipshits at the DOJ.
I'm glad he admitted his mistake, here (assuming you are correct) but I still wouldn't take his opinion about these things seriously.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2017 12:34 PM (8gDQu)
But as he advertised boldly starting with the prosecutor in the ridiculous Scooter Libby lynching, he's an idiot when it comes to assessing his fellow prosecutors and law enforcement personnel generally. Don't think that's too strong a term here.
Oh well, there are many commentators like this out there - valuable in some areas, laughably clueless in others. As with "information" these days, one must be one's own editor, fact-checker, investigator, and panel of experts - a key reason why America is so lost, as few people (reasonably enough) have the inclination, background or resources to do those things.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2017 12:34 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2017 12:33 PM (W+vEI)
The "truth" of communists everywhere--the end justifies the means.
Except, it doesn't. And maybe now they will find out just how much it doesn't.
I really need to see a few perp walks here, and maybe a firing squad or gibbet.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2017 12:34 PM (7UW64)
Shut it down. There is no point to the Muller investigation now, even if they have legitimate evidence the investigation is so tainted they probably couldn't get a conviction
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 13, 2017 12:35 PM (lKyWE)
Obviously this is not political banter Clearly indicates professional duties infected by political viewpoints which is disqualifying I was going on the published accounts Id seen which didn't include this one Should follow my own advice to wait til all facts in
Punctuation removed to keep Pixy happy.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:35 PM (/tuJf)
because as I have been saying for fucking months and been hammered for
it with insults is because there is an ongoing OIG investigation that is
uncovering all this shit.
Yea, I feel vindicated.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (/tuJf)
I'm not encouraged that this damning info is having to be leaked in order to get out. Nothing is going to come of this. In fact, if Mueller's investigation is closed then it'll be framed by the media because it was tainted, not because there was no collusion. Maybe even start all over again.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 12:35 PM (UBzPO)
Hey, can somebody give Mike Lindell a call? I think old Recuse and Snooze needs a comfier pillow.
--
Snoozin' Jeff Sessions has been a happy My Pillow customer since he began his job as AG.
Do you think he'd do a commercial for us?
Posted by: Mike Lindell at December 13, 2017 12:35 PM (aT+Bx)
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose.
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I dont wear tin foil.
I ordered a stainless steel colander with a leather chin strap from amazon.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 12:36 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: MAGA at December 13, 2017 12:36 PM (Rh8KC)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 12:36 PM (QC/4S)
being a jaunty propeller tin foil beanie hat wearer who has a wall
covered with yarn strings connecting pictures.
THIS
There should be a word for when reality is more crazypants than the conspiracy theory, because, d@mn, stuff like wife of DoJ official works for Fusion GPS?!?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2017 12:36 PM (W+vEI)
He has at least admitted his mistake.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:29 PM (/tuJf)
Thank you. I will append here:
"Obviously, this is not political banter. Clearly, indicates professional duties infected by political viewpoints, which is disqualifying. I was going on the published accounts Id' seen, which didn't include this one. Should follow my own advice to wait til all facts in."
https://twitter.com/AndrewCMcCarthy/status/940989860801929216
For fuller context, McCarthy was quoting the insurance text.
That being said, no, I will not retract my comments. McCarthy has a very long and illustrious history of being completely and totally on the side that the FBI and the DOJ are totes the most integrity filled and awesomest evah in the history of evah! As one would expect from someone who worked in the SDNY US Attorney's office.
He shot his wad about it without bothering to read to see what people were upset about and now he's trying to cover his ass.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 12:36 PM (mf5HN)
If the fake dossier was used to obtain the warrant that started the whole fake investigation, wouldn't anything they discover after that be obsolete due to the "fruit of the poisonous tree"?"
That's why Mueller is shifting towards trying to prove "Obstruction of Justice", a process crime, because those charges would be completely independent of any of the original evidence. Which is also why they are such complete garbage - it's how Scooter Libby got convicted even though all of the evidence showed he was innocent of the charges made against him.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2017 12:36 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: It's me donna at December 13, 2017 12:37 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Keith at December 13, 2017 12:37 PM (USf3s)
Will the Mueller investigation be called off? Of course not.
Anyone going to get fired? Nope.
Anyone going to jail? nope.
Anything bad happen to anyone at all involved in this crap? nope.
Will this even get widely reported? Of course not.
Posted by: Dean wormer at December 13, 2017 12:37 PM (fftfA)
(Dad named me Sue. Said it would make me tough. Slapped me around a bit too; to teach me how to take a punch.)
I've see worse on the internet. Why are these twits news worthy?
Posted by: Sue Sue Sue Deeoh at December 13, 2017 12:37 PM (KdDCu)
8
I'm making the call: Strzok will be the fall guy.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon Cassandra at December 13, 2017 12:25 PM (AM1GF)
Agreed... and then the Left will use this somehow to virtue signal as cover to keep on with their Deep State Coup program...
Posted by: kraken at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (zSVEm)
They may try. Has he received enough? I'd put my money on Comey or McCabe, both of which profited handsomely through their clinton loyalties. I'd sooner put him on the not a suicide watch, but then we seem to have McCabe and Page with their grubby fingers in the pie, too, and that is a lot of killing.
Perhaps, Strokit needs that insurance policy.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at December 13, 2017 12:37 PM (tbOMB)
It is fucking treason, pure and simple.. line 'em up on a firing squad..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (so+oy)
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At least they moved him to Human Resources where he can't do any more damage.
Oh wait...
He's got nothing but time and his shitty attitude hasn't changed. In fact he's no doubt livid about the 'injustice' done to him. Stayed tuned for monstrous actions out of HR...
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2017 12:37 PM (h3OTG)
has to go through the Assistant Attorney General for National Security.
The person who at that time in October 2016 resigned from office.
Right, forgot about that! Think he resigned because he refused to participate?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2017 12:37 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 12:36 PM (8XRCm)
Well, aren't we becoming all high and mighty. I suppose your assless chaps have asses now, too.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2017 12:38 PM (7UW64)
If the fake dossier was used to obtain the warrant that started the whole fake investigation, wouldn't anything they discover after that be obsolete due to the "fruit of the poisonous tree"?
Posted by: SideFx at December 13, 2017 12:34 PM (1hiZs)
It's a moot point; they never obtained anything from it to use in court. They only wanted to use it to carry out treasonous acts against America, which they did. It was never intended for use in any prosecution.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2017 12:38 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: Rose at December 13, 2017 12:38 PM (30UCB)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2017 12:38 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: spongeworthy at December 13, 2017 12:38 PM (K/9da)
Or start taking heroin.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 13, 2017 12:38 PM (xJa6I)
"On the Ground!"
"You so much as reach for that inferior Down Filled Pillow and I WILL SHOOT!"
Posted by: Mike Lindell - Bad Cop at December 13, 2017 12:38 PM (XHDFG)
It wasn't leaked, reporters were called to the DOJ and it was given to them last night. Probably because the investigation is wrapping up.
I really don't understand why people say nothing will come from this when it already has. We've had at least 4 senior DOJ/FBI officials exposed and removed from both the investigation and their offices.
But we'll see where this goes.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:38 PM (/tuJf)
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Rhomboid,
Agree, but nobody wants their coworkers to be evil assholes, so always take the character references with a grain of salt.
Posted by: MAGA at December 13, 2017 12:39 PM (Rh8KC)
and again, it's also clear what happened to flynn and trump's "obstruction"
Comey "hey man, flynn lied he's in big trouble. big trouble"
trump "why?"
comey "he didn't really recall or share exactly what we have in transcript of his talk with ambassador"
trump "are you serious"
comey "very"
trump "I can't believe this BS. I hope you can see it in your way to do him a solid, we both know he's a good guy"
comey "gotcha, that's obstruction. impeach!"
trump "I gotta fire you"
comey "I am indispensable"
Posted by: porg herder at December 13, 2017 12:39 PM (TlvUt)
hasn't changed. In fact he's no doubt livid about the 'injustice' done
to him. Stayed tuned for monstrous actions out of HR...
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2017 12:37 PM (h3OTG)
Yep, now with full access to employee records he can frame up some enemies right pretty.
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 12:39 PM (Iz8Py)
Posted by: dananjcon at December 13, 2017 12:39 PM (xqfqx)
Posted by: Mike Lindell - Bad Cop at December 13, 2017 12:38 PM (XHDFG)
darn, darn, DARNY DARN!
**kicks trashcan**
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2017 12:40 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2017 12:38 PM (7UW64)
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Point of order.
All chaps are assless. If they HAD asses... they'd be pants.
That is all. Carry on!!
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 12:40 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: porg herder at December 13, 2017 12:40 PM (TlvUt)
Shut it down. There is no point to the Muller investigation now, even if they have legitimate evidence the investigation is so tainted they probably couldn't get a conviction
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 13, 2017 12:35 PM (lKyWE
After we accuse every Republican running in 2018 of sexual assault -- which works! -- we'll have enough Democrats to be able to twist evidence enough to IMPEACH.
Posted by: the DNC at December 13, 2017 12:40 PM (DofIg)
What sort of idiot leaves a message trail a mile wide and 12 miles long? If you are going to be a felon,
One that KNOWS they will never be a felon.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2017 12:40 PM (ftdxp)
Not. A. Smidgen.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 13, 2017 12:40 PM (ul9CR)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 12:41 PM (WbIyz)
plan to go after Trump using the powers of the state based on a phony
Russia dossier that they had helped create.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:25 PM (/tuJf)
In other words, character assassination.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2017 12:41 PM (oPNmq)
I think they got Flynn with it.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 12:41 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: porg herder at December 13, 2017 12:41 PM (TlvUt)
Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at December 13, 2017 12:41 PM (vtcmf)
So DoJ has evidence which amounts to treason and the response is to reassign the traitors to a different office?
Posted by: MAGA at December 13, 2017 12:33 PM (Rh8KC)
And they screw that up to boot. In what world other than government work would a high ranking employee get gaught cheating on his wife with another employee and get moved to human resorces dept which I assume would set policy against that type of behavior?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 13, 2017 12:41 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:41 PM (/tuJf)
I ordered a stainless steel colander with a leather chin strap from amazon.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 12:36 PM (8XRCm)
Is that Prime eligible?
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 12:42 PM (mf5HN)
Yea, I feel vindicated.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (/tuJf)
Jack, you don't even know where these texts came from.
And if they are doing an OIG investigation of these treasonous lowlifes there is no reason that they had to let this "Russia!!" bullshit be carried on with an out-of-control Independent Investigator as if it bore some relation to reality.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2017 12:42 PM (8gDQu)
plan to go after Trump using the powers of the state based on a phony
Russia dossier that they had helped create.
+++++++++++
srs tho...is there any other reading of this?
Posted by: porg herder at December 13, 2017 12:42 PM (TlvUt)
and every single Obama appointee
(sorry i'm late, I was reading the prior post and comments about how i'm a terrible terrible person on steroids looking to kill, Kill, KILL!!!)
Posted by: navycopjoe at December 13, 2017 12:42 PM (N6CVU)
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 12:42 PM (CMbMd)
Posted by: LASue at December 13, 2017 12:43 PM (Mjus2)
Posted by: chris matthews at December 13, 2017 12:43 PM (8TdcF)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 12:43 PM (Iz8Py)
Let's not be hasty here.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 12:41 PM (WbIyz)
I'm a state worker. All my coworkers are evil assholes, and so am I.
Or some such shit.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2017 12:43 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: porg herder at December 13, 2017 12:43 PM (TlvUt)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 12:43 PM (QC/4S)
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 12:43 PM (mf5HN)
Typically you can't obstruct justice in a case without any underlying crime. Firing Comey and trying to end the investigation was a good decision - it is definitively correct decision because you can say you had a prosecutor who was out of control pursuing a non-crime.
I think Trump should make this statement now - ask what the special prosecutor is actually prosecuting. Ask him for an interim report on the Russian collusion investigation. If the report says zip, then shut the investigation down - how can you obstruct an investigation into nothing?
Posted by: Dean Wormer at December 13, 2017 12:44 PM (fftfA)
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 13, 2017 12:41 PM (lKyWE)
Such a very good question and one that should be put to Wray.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 12:44 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: LASue at December 13, 2017 12:44 PM (Mjus2)
Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2017 12:44 PM (xjiRE)
(sorry i'm late, I was reading the prior post and comments about how i'm a terrible terrible person on steroids looking to kill, Kill, KILL!!!)
Posted by: navycopjoe at December 13, 2017 12:42 PM (N6CVU)
Well, if you weren't, we might be disappointed.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2017 12:44 PM (7UW64)
Sounds like classic treason.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 12:44 PM (y67qO)
Posted by: Hillary! 2020! IT'S MY TIME!!! at December 13, 2017 12:44 PM (ctuyM)
Yes I do. Because I A) I am watching the hearing and B) it's been reported widely that the DOJ invited reporters to the DOJ to give them the texts.
Seriously, I actually have been watching this closely for months.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:44 PM (/tuJf)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/13/ex-mueller-aides-texts-revealed-read-them-here.html
Link to the texts themselves.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 12:44 PM (mf5HN)
Have they gone to jail?
Are their pensions revoked?
Or are they enjoying early retirement on my dime?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 13, 2017 12:44 PM (kqsXK)
Posted by: t-bird at December 13, 2017 12:45 PM (2z74n)
134 Somebody has probably mentioned this, but the cookbook has been linked at Instapundit.
Posted by: rickl at December 13, 2017 12:44 PM (xjiRE)
Who knew they were into hobo jerky over there.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2017 12:45 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: LASue at December 13, 2017 12:43 PM (Mjus2)
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Oct 2016
Posted by: MAGA at December 13, 2017 12:45 PM (Rh8KC)
Try "attempted" because these fools couldn't understand the first thing about operational security which is a little something called "shut-up."
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 12:45 PM (hLRSq)
Said it would toughen me up.
After fighting my way through High School
I discovered that I like to fight.
That's why I decided to become a lawyer.)
and get moved to human resorces [sic] dept
where he can screen out undesirables like Christians, Conservatives, and Trump supporters, and approve for hiring only people who hate Trump, love the modern Democrat party, and want to change the world.
Posted by: Sue Sue Sue Deeoh at December 13, 2017 12:45 PM (KdDCu)
1. FNM doesn't have the pull it used to.
2. Look at my 401k....wheeeeeeeeeeee!!!
3. DJT is uncoup-able.
4. All of the above.
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 12:46 PM (Iz8Py)
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 12:43 PM (mf5HN)
Yes, it's showing up on the news. CNBC said that Pres. Trump will be talking about it soon
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 12:46 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Rose at December 13, 2017 12:46 PM (30UCB)
This guy needs to Strzok out.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2017 12:26 PM (8gDQu)
Sedition, more like it. There seems to be evidence of conspiracy between Strzok and others to use spurious evidence to discredit the President.
Treason is incredibly hard to prove and prosecute in the United States--by the design of the Founders.
Posted by: troyriser at December 13, 2017 12:46 PM (raGQi)
Posted by: Leland at December 13, 2017 12:46 PM (4y/OO)
Lets talk about those 12 cans of Diet Coke again . . .
Posted by: MSM Everywhere at December 13, 2017 12:46 PM (OZmbA)
shit I need to hit the gym or eat a burger or 12
too damn skinny
Posted by: navycopjoe at December 13, 2017 12:46 PM (N6CVU)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 13, 2017 12:46 PM (KP5rU)
Sounds like classic treason.
Punishable by demotion. As a lesson to the others.
Posted by: t-bird at December 13, 2017 12:47 PM (2z74n)
Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2017 12:47 PM (vDqXW)
Yea, I posted the AP tweet about it in the last thread.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:47 PM (/tuJf)
Are their pensions revoked?
Or are they enjoying early retirement on my dime?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 13, 2017 12:44 PM (kqsXK)
They're on the Brian Ross suspension plan
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 12:47 PM (493sH)
"So on top of Mueller getting rid of Strzok -- is he also reviewing Strzok's work product over that previous year?"
Well, we're waiting.
Posted by: Benji Carver at December 13, 2017 12:47 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Rose at December 13, 2017 12:46 PM (30UCB)
As a civilian working for USACE, I had to take that oath. I will faithfully.....
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2017 12:47 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: LASue at December 13, 2017 12:47 PM (Mjus2)
A big tell is how hysterical the daily reporting is on 'Trump's Assaults on Women' 'Trump's Diet Cokes!' etc.
Posted by: Cheri at December 13, 2017 12:48 PM (oiNtH)
So in this case, I'm thinking "yeah, this is straight up conspiracy . . . but how did they pull it off so quickly? "
Well, my pessimistic belief is - this ain't the first time they called this play. May have been the first sting they ran on Trump, but there have been others before this. That's scary.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at December 13, 2017 12:48 PM (mhzJh)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 13, 2017 12:48 PM (VWp7G)
Hell maybe even espionage depending on what they did or exchange to create this fraud.
Jail time all around.
You awake yet Snoozy Jeff?
Posted by: Naturalfake at December 13, 2017 12:48 PM (2+ECd)
Low-level employee
Not representative of this inquiry
Lone wolf
Mostly honest
Why are you obsessed with this?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2017 12:48 PM (nvVP5)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 12:47 PM (493sH)
I cannot imagine being employed after pulling a boner like that. Why was he not fired, tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail?
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2017 12:48 PM (7UW64)
Don Lemon grabbed my phone and messed with it while I was cleaning his longbow.
Posted by: Anderson Cooper at December 13, 2017 12:48 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 12:48 PM (WbIyz)
Threat of subpoena not an actual subpoena.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:49 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at December 13, 2017 12:41 PM (2DOZq)
They threatened him with it, perhaps, but they got him because he made a deal to be gotten.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2017 12:49 PM (8gDQu)
I ordered a stainless steel colander with a leather chin strap from amazon.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 12:36 PM
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Is that Prime eligible?
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 12:42 PM
When Amazon offers The Cookbook, the colander w/chin strap, and the Three Wolves t-shirt in a 'frequently purchased together' bundle, it will be time for The Horde to ascend.
Posted by: Master Po at December 13, 2017 12:49 PM (ctuyM)
And I like your repeated point about the asst. AG for national security. He was, as you say, directly involved in any FISA warrant application process (I am pretty sure), and he quit in Oct. '16. Extremely interesting.
Until the FISA warrant application is obtained, most of this is entertainment. That application has the potential to actually cause damage where it's needed.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2017 12:49 PM (QDnY+)
Yes, it's showing up on the news. CNBC said that Pres. Trump will be talking about it soon
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 12:46 PM (493sH)
Thanks. I get news alerts from a local station so by the time the station gets it from the AP (I'm assuming it's the AP) it's usually at least pretty solid.
*waves tiny RTFBYMFMF sign*
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 12:49 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Burger Chef at December 13, 2017 12:49 PM (RuIsu)
Try "attempted" because these fools couldn't understand the first thing about operational security which is a little something called "shut-up."
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 12:45 PM (hLRSq)
They can't help themselves. I guarantee you that they wanted to be caught, because they wanted to rub it in everybody's faces that "Yeah, we did it, and there's nothing you can do to stop us!".
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 12:50 PM (CMbMd)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 12:50 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at December 13, 2017 12:50 PM (hMwEB)
Posted by: Burger Chef at December 13, 2017 12:49 PM (RuIsu)
And a suicide note explaining how he shot himself three times in the back of the head.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 12:50 PM (CMbMd)
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2017 12:51 PM (7UW64)
Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2017 12:52 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2017 12:49 PM (QDnY+)
When Trump put out his they tapped the wires at Trump Tower tweet waaaaaay back in, what, December, 2016, which seems like another era, not last year, I said to Bander, I said to him, I did, Trump's seen the FISA warrant.
I still believe that to be the case. Trump's seen the FISA warrants on this.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 12:52 PM (mf5HN)
Employees
Have to add in those at FBI and DoJ who were working with Steele/Fusion GPS for the dossier and also the Don Jr. meeting w/Russian lawyer...
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2017 12:52 PM (W+vEI)
Hell maybe even espionage depending on what they did or exchange to create this fraud.
Jail time all around.
You awake yet Snoozy Jeff?
Posted by: Naturalfake at December 13, 2017 12:48 PM (2+ECd)
Just imagine what might have been had anyone else but Sessions been appointed AG. There would be a serious investigation into this attempted coup and a secure conservative seat in the Senate. No one would believe it if it were in a novel.
Posted by: josephistan at December 13, 2017 12:52 PM (7HtZB)
Sounds like classic treason.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 12:44 PM (y67qO)
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B-b-b-b-b-but Trump IS NOT FIT TO BE PRESIDENT !!!!! HE IS **NOT** MY PREEEESSSSSSSSIIIDDEEEEEENTTTT!!!
AYEEEEEEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
AYEEEEEEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
*breathes*
AYEEEEEEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
*spittle flies*
~ average Democrat voter.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 12:52 PM (8XRCm)
I do too. The question is who showed it to him?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:53 PM (/tuJf)
Yea, I feel vindicated.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:27 PM (/tuJf)
Jack, you don't even know where these texts came from.
And if they are doing an OIG investigation of these treasonous lowlifes there is no reason that they had to let this "Russia!!" bullshit be carried on with an out-of-control Independent Investigator as if it bore some relation to reality.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2017 12:42 PM (8gDQu)
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You are correct, and I will point out again that Trump is quoted saying he was doing his own investigation of these people with his lawyers.
Posted by: MAGA at December 13, 2017 12:53 PM (Rh8KC)
The crazy fucker actually admitted on live TV that a "free press is necessary to fulfill the New World Order."
oopsie
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 12:53 PM (Iz8Py)
Posted by: josephistan at December 13, 2017 12:52 PM (7HtZB)
Rudy, where were you when we needed you?
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 12:53 PM (CMbMd)
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 12:50 PM (CMbMd)
I think they calculated poorly, hence the term of endearment "fools" used without any irony.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 12:53 PM (hLRSq)
CBD, your jv rant and post was maybe your best work yet.
I too have issues with modern police training and had black lives matter not been designed specifically to alienate whites, there would be much common ground to address reform of police training and tactics.
The Blackbird story? I've read it already, but having the pilot tell the story was well worth the time, even though I knew the plot. Great story teller.
As far as this current topic goes, I think it's fair to be cynical about anything coming from it.
We've seen too much posturing from Senate and House committees that result in nothing to think otherwise.
Many miscreants that should be charged with crimes are either still working or collecting their pensions. Lemme know when the ropes start being tossed over the lamp-posts, and I'll be there with my camera and popcorn.
Posted by: OneEyedGeorgeCostanza at December 13, 2017 12:54 PM (z79tQ)
trump should have offer the job to Ted Cruz
Posted by: navycopjoe at December 13, 2017 12:54 PM (N6CVU)
I'm beginning to suspect GHWB, picking up serious steam with Clinton, ignored/tolerated by GWB, and Obama totally finished the job.
Posted by: jwb7605 at December 13, 2017 12:54 PM (DofIg)
Posted by: Al Gore's Turgid Chakra at December 13, 2017 12:54 PM (yCUuc)
Posted by: MSM at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM (z79tQ)
I have absolutely no doubt that he's neck deep in this shit, and yet not a word.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM (CMbMd)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM (QDnY+)
The first time I ever heard the term New World Order was out of that freakazoid's mouth.
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM (Iz8Py)
Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: DaveA at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: William Eaton at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM (BPzCo)
Hey. I just remembered something.
**lightbulb goes on**
Remember when Hillary said "If that fucking bastard wins, we all hang from nooses!"?????
I think todays goings on illustrate what she was referring to.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM (8XRCm)
Not just discredit but to manipulate the election, install a puppet President, and then, when that failed, to indict the sitting President.
Treason is incredibly hard to prove and prosecute in the United States--by the design of the Founders.
Posted by: troyriser at December 13, 2017 12:46 PM (raGQi)
That's why I said "High Treason".
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2017 12:56 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 12:56 PM (g4lFK)
and here it comes...
wait for it....
wait.....
MILITARIZED THUG COPS!!!!!!!!11!!!
Posted by: navycopjoe at December 13, 2017 12:56 PM (N6CVU)
He should have stayed right there, in the Senate, where he could exactly what he is doing now (not much).
Posted by: navybrat at December 13, 2017 12:56 PM (w7KSn)
Tax bill cave on SALT for rich Democrats in CA and NY.
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So.... paying taxes is NOT a patriotic duty.
Noted.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 12:56 PM (8XRCm)
Who was the jackass democrat this morning saying that Strzok didn't say anything in the e-mails that the majority of Americans weren't saying?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 13, 2017 12:56 PM (lKyWE)
Well, it would seem that this was likely led from the top: Obama and Jarrett, eh?
And how did they pull it off so quickly, well...who says it was done quickly? Maybe they'd been doing this sort of thing for years, such as the IRS scandal, strange flipping of Roberts, etc..
Sad that this is even something to consider (instead of crazy talk).
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2017 12:56 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 12:57 PM (Iz8Py)
Posted by: Obama Voter at December 13, 2017 12:57 PM (HgMAr)
You know who else owns Property and pays confiscatory Taxes on it?
Businesses.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 12:57 PM (XHDFG)
*waves tiny RTFBYMFMF sign*
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 12:49 PM (mf5HN)
He's talking about it right now. Said he'll sign it if it has 21% corp tax rate.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 12:57 PM (493sH)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM (BPzCo)
F*** that.
I want a Bloodletting in Silicon Valley.
Posted by: Hikaru at December 13, 2017 12:57 PM (CMbMd)
assassination, right? (will I get banned for saying that - not
advocating but just wondering what this guy was thinking)
.
.
.Whatever it was or is they appear to have wanted to not leave any sort of paper/text message trail for it
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 13, 2017 12:57 PM (+Dllb)
but Sessions been appointed AG. There would be a serious investigation
into this attempted coup and a secure conservative seat in the Senate.
No one would believe it if it were in a novel.
Posted by: josephistan at December 13, 2017 12:52 PM (7HtZB)
The counter-argument to that is that if anyone else but Sessions had been AG they might have shut Mueller down and Trump would've already been impeached because of it.
I certainly don't believe that Trump and Sessions are playing some kind of 4D chess with this but I can't see how this could have worked out any better so far. Yet I'm also cynical enough to believe nothing is going to come of it and still 50-50 on impeachment.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 12:57 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: Mike Lindell - Bad Cop at December 13, 2017 12:58 PM (XHDFG)
How about a billionaire surtax? Say 50%?
I'm down with it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 12:58 PM (WbIyz)
Well it is Christmas.
Posted by: DaveA at December 13, 2017 12:59 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: The WAAAAHMBULANCE at December 13, 2017 12:59 PM (hLRb6)
make Friday a Take Your Dog To Work Day at the Justice Dept
then make a bogus call to the cops
then sit back with some popcorn
Posted by: navycopjoe at December 13, 2017 12:59 PM (N6CVU)
Oh, didn't think so.
Carry on.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM (QDnY+)
............
But you will get a 3000% decrease in federal income taxes.
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at December 13, 2017 01:00 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 01:00 PM (XHDFG)
Posted by: Angela Merkel at December 13, 2017 01:00 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 01:00 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Under Fire-Moldova Curious at December 13, 2017 01:00 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: JEM someday I can comment from my desk again at December 13, 2017 01:00 PM (zTtjJ)
Posted by: rifraf at December 13, 2017 01:01 PM (RiEBD)
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 01:01 PM (/qEW2)
businesses arent affected by this. Thye can deduct 100% of taxes paid. SALT changes only affect individuals. Same woththe MID changes.
This bill is a shit sandwich that gets worse and worse.
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 01:01 PM (BPzCo)
corruption in their jobs. Lots of people (me included) speak crudely in
private about politics. If you're ok w/ Trump's outbursts, I don't see
getting whipped over this BS."
hey McCarthy, a government employee is not an elected politician.
they aren't allowed to politik on our dime, and they are supposed to be
fired, prosecuted, and stripped of their pensions when they do it
anyway. in fact, a professional government employee should keep his
piehole shut about politics at all times.
.
.
.Especially when they are doing the politicking on Government issued equipment. Hatch Act violations all over the place. They need to be terminated.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 13, 2017 01:01 PM (+Dllb)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 13, 2017 01:01 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 01:01 PM (XHDFG)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 01:02 PM (y67qO)
Nothing bad can ever come of this in the near future. /s
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 01:02 PM (g4lFK)
I'm down with it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 12:58 PM (WbIyz)
That's why I brought up the estate tax a few weeks ago only to be immediately called Karl Marx.
How soon we have forgotten that about ten years ago $10 TRILLION taxpayer dollars were given to bankers who should have gone to prison instead. The consequences of that are going to be felt for generations.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 01:02 PM (UBzPO)
Everyone has had time to say their piece.
Show of hands: Who thinks anyone will see the inside of a jail cell over ANY of this?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2017 01:02 PM (ftdxp)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 01:02 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: Bannon at December 13, 2017 01:02 PM (XHDFG)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:53 PM (/tuJf)
Now that I have no idea.
Oh oh oh I wanted to tell my always think well of co-worker's story!
Once upon a time, when I was working for the psychopaths, a former co-worker of mine was being considered for a position. Now, mind you, at the prior firm I was a temp who was doing secretarial work and nothing more and was the lowest person on the totem pole as it should have been. There were also maybe 12 people total who worked there.
I gave a very polite well she was a senior paralegal and I was only the secretary so I didn't really work with her one on one that much so I cannot say one way or another if she would be a good hire.
They hire her. It goes to shit. The office manager says to me why didn't you warn us not to hire her and I flailed at her but but but I did! I mean, ffs, who doesn't know that oh well there were only 12 of us in the whole place but I didn't really know her is the polite way of saying FLEE FLEE NOW!
Seriously, people.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 01:02 PM (mf5HN)
But we'll see where this goes.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 12:38 PM (/tuJf)
So they're fired and no longer employed right. Not just taken off the case.
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 01:03 PM (cAnNx)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 13, 2017 01:01 PM (+Dllb)
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Or at least fired.
Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2017 01:03 PM (vDqXW)
I live in high tax MD and was probably going to get screwed, but I understood it was fair and was prepared to accept the rogering in the hopes that it could get these blue states to rethink the way they tax. Yes, I'm naive.
Posted by: Benji Carver at December 13, 2017 01:03 PM (OD2ni)
Not me. More likely, people will get promotions.
Posted by: navybrat at December 13, 2017 01:03 PM (w7KSn)
How about LESS Taxes and much LESS Spending?
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 01:00 PM (XHDFG)
That is crazy talk. You want to have granny eating cat food and throwing people on the streets. Think of the chirren!!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 01:04 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Grope-apolooza II - The Nevertrumpening at December 13, 2017 01:04 PM (XSUzW)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 01:04 PM (QC/4S)
That wasn't to keep Bankers out of Prison.
It was to keep Politicians heads on their shoulders.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 01:04 PM (XHDFG)
Second look at why I am spending $1550 a year on internet service and windows software.
That money would be better spent elsewhere.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 13, 2017 01:04 PM (KdDCu)
Posted by: navybrat at December 13, 2017 01:03 PM (w7KSn)
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For "saving democracy", most likely.
Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2017 01:04 PM (vDqXW)
I don't hear much from Patty Reagan anymore.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 01:04 PM (WbIyz)
Posted by: Defenestratus at December 13, 2017 01:05 PM (a9n6M)
Can you pull some of the rolls back so I can get to it?
Posted by: Bannon at December 13, 2017 01:02 PM (XHDFG)
Bold talk from a man that had his dick punched last night.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at December 13, 2017 01:05 PM (lKyWE)
Hoooray for Ryan and McConnell
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 01:05 PM (BPzCo)
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 01:05 PM (g4lFK)
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Da Fuq you talking bout Williss????
Zombie Merril Lynch
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 01:05 PM (8XRCm)
Define "cave".
Many people in those states will still get screwed. The amount they are giving won't cover what they are losing.
Wait until later today and listen to Dems from those states. They will squeal.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 01:05 PM (y67qO)
How about a billionaire surtax? Say 50%?
I'm down with it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 12:58 PM (WbIyz)
---------------------------------------------------
And a massive tariff...
It is clear now that we cannot protect our constitution and individual liberties, and at the same time be apart of the international order.
I think a lot of conservatives, even intelligent ones, forget that most of the governments around the world hate our constitution and freedoms. Even many of those Western European ones who supposedly love freedom.
Trade deals are not trade deals anymore, but are political deals.
Posted by: William Eaton at December 13, 2017 01:05 PM (MuTTO)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 01:04 PM (XHDFG)
It was to keep those politicians in office. Remember the timing - the collapse happened 6 weeks before the election. Bankers finance campaigns.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 01:05 PM (UBzPO)
I don't hear much from Patty Reagan anymore.
Posted by: Grump928(C"
Maybe Megan will pose for Playboy like Patty.
Posted by: Benji Carver at December 13, 2017 01:06 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: DaveA at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM
What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: Marvel at December 13, 2017 01:06 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: Deep State at December 13, 2017 01:06 PM (Al42J)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2017 01:02 PM (ftdxp)
Of Barky's junta in the Deep State? Doubtful. But they'll have their desks moved to the basement, at worst. And certainly none of the real traitors - Barky, Shrillary, Comey, Lynch, Powers, ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2017 01:06 PM (8gDQu)
BREAKING NEWS: ABC News has learned the location where Trump has his spray tan applied.
Posted by: MSM at December 13, 2017 12:55 PM (OZmbA)
Things are so bad, I have no idea if this is a joke or something ABC actually ran with.
Posted by: josephistan at December 13, 2017 01:06 PM (7HtZB)
Posted by: mrp at December 13, 2017 01:06 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 01:06 PM (y67qO)
Alex read me some of this last night and it's horrifying, but it's texts between lovers, right? Did they use government phones?
Posted by: Bander proctoring a test at December 13, 2017 01:07 PM (WZG6Y)
I have a guess. Admiral Mike Rogers.
Trump didn't start tweeting about being wiretapped until early March 2017. But he also had a meeting during the transition with Adm Rogers at Trump Towers where Trump was running his transition. At the time, Rogers was under threat of termination by Clapper and Obama and the meeting with Trump was unauthorized by anyone in the Obama administration.
The very next day with no prior notice, Trump moved his entire transition office to his golf course in NJ.
Rogers is the only senior member of Obama's intelligence community that Trump has retained.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 01:07 PM (/tuJf)
That wasn't to keep Bankers out of Prison.
It was to keep Politicians heads on their shoulders.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 01:04 PM (XHDFG)
The Fed Balance sheet from different schemes to pump free cash into the economy since 2008 is 33 trillion.
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 01:08 PM (g4lFK)
I have to disagree, here. Most of those bankers should not have gone to prison - they were mostly doing what Uncle Sam had been forcing them to do - but they certainly should have been impoverished and most of those companies gone, gone, gone.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2017 01:08 PM (8gDQu)
Define "cave".
Many people in those states will still get screwed. The amount they are giving won't cover what they are losing.
Wait until later today and listen to Dems from those states. They will squeal.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 01:05 PM (y67qO)
I prefer to think of it as paying for a wall of sorts to keep Dem voters in blue states, instead of letting them flee to low tax red states.
Posted by: josephistan at December 13, 2017 01:08 PM (7HtZB)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 01:08 PM (XHDFG)
Posted by: geoffb at December 13, 2017 01:09 PM (zOpu5)
Posted by: Max Power at December 13, 2017 01:09 PM (Hucnr)
Alex read me some of this last night and it's horrifying, but it's texts between lovers, right? Did they use government phones?
Posted by: Bander proctoring a test"
I would guess they were texting each other on their government phones which were saved centrally. They should have had a home brew serve like Hillary.
Posted by: Benji Carver at December 13, 2017 01:09 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 01:00 PM (XHDFG)
..........
That makes sense, so forget it.
Posted by: wth at December 13, 2017 01:09 PM (HgMAr)
.
.
.Congress already did Fusion is fighting the subpoena.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 13, 2017 01:10 PM (+Dllb)
The very next day with no prior notice, Trump moved his entire transition office to his golf course in NJ.
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.... and left the office intercom playing Slim Whitman on a loop.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 01:10 PM (8XRCm)
Trump didn't start tweeting about being wiretapped until early March 2017. But he also had a meeting during the transition with Adm Rogers at Trump Towers where Trump was running his transition. At the time, Rogers was under threat of termination by Clapper and Obama and the meeting with Trump was unauthorized by anyone in the Obama administration.
The very next day with no prior notice, Trump moved his entire transition office to his golf course in NJ.
Rogers is the only senior member of Obama's intelligence community that Trump has retained.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 01:07 PM (/tuJf)
Hmmmm.
That is somewhere between a guess and speculation based on evidence.
Posted by: alexthechick - Breathe deeply. Namaste. Prayer-hands. Warrior Pose. at December 13, 2017 01:10 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 13, 2017 01:10 PM (0tfLf)
Calling on all attorneys who read here.
Why can't Sessions say:
"Mr Storzk if you were acting on behalf of the FBI in this plot to prevent the President from taking office would you care to name names? Otherwise you and your girlfriend will be tried as rouge agents and we are going to send you to prison for a very long time. Your choice."
How does his (Sessions) recusal from the "MUELLER PROBE PROBE Probe probe...." (echo off) prevent him form prosecuting this?
Can crooks say they had lunch with Mueller and then be off limits for other crimes?
Seems to me that the crime of conspiracy is a separate crime from what Mueller has targeted.
How does any of this fail stand up to any scrutiny and yet there is no one allowed to question or prosecute unless they are on team Hillary?
Isn't this one of those Reas Ipsalor moments. (I'm not an attorney, I'm sure you noticed). The thing speaks for itself. Two people talk about creating a conspiracy of secret plans, and then there is evidence and documentation that it occurred. The literally texted about committing treason and then put the plan into action. Ergo Crime and intent?
Is there anything that is not in scope of Mueller that Sessions can take action on? Isn't evidence that the Mueller investigation is the pointy end of a conspiracy to commit treason sort of nullify the whole thing?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 13, 2017 01:10 PM (ymnmz)
wait for it....
wait.....
MILITARIZED THUG COPS!!!!!!!!11!!!
Posted by: navycopjoe at December 13, 2017 12:56 PM (N6CVU)
Really? That's the knee-jerk reaction? Turn it to eleven, why don't you?
Just saying there may be room for improvement is akin to bashing all cops in your world. Maybe a little oversensitive, no?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 13, 2017 01:10 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 01:10 PM (/tuJf)
So much for simplifying the tax code.
And red states continue to subsidize blue state tax and spend policies.
Great job GOP
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 01:10 PM (BPzCo)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 01:10 PM (y67qO)
Danielle DiMartino Booth on CNBC. Zounds what...
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 13, 2017 01:10 PM (493sH)
in blue states, instead of letting them flee to low tax red states.
Also keep the R voting residents of red districts happy. Philly collar counties are a good example. (red district meaning the congresscritter is no donk commie)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 01:10 PM (Iz8Py)
should not have gone to prison - they were mostly doing what Uncle Sam
had been forcing them to do - but they certainly should have been
impoverished and most of those companies gone, gone, gone.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2017 01:08 PM (8gDQu)
Regardless of what shouldve happened to them, what HAS happened is that in about 10 years there'll be hundreds of billionaires created from those ranks and their offspring will rule over us. That's why I'm revisiting the estate tax to claw some of it back.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 01:11 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 13, 2017 01:11 PM (Al42J)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 01:07 PM (/tuJf)
I sang his praises yesterday, and I'll take the opportunity to do so again. Rogers is legitimate.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 01:12 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 13, 2017 01:12 PM (fA1SL)
JackStraw - again, people come here to vent, complain, and moan. They don't want to see anything that could remotely classified as good news. If these people, their families, and their pets were all executed and the corpses burned in a ditch the Horde would be complaining that the remains weren't loaded into a rocket and shot into the sun.
This investigation is hopelessly tainted, everybody who cares knows it is a frame-up,* and it is going sputter on in its zombie-like fashion until it collapses in some corner. That's why the MSM and Dems have gone back to the sexual harassment/assault allegations that already failed because this has failed.
*Knowing and admitting aloud are two unrelated things.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Holiday Magic! Get a Face-Plant Hillary doll from the Outrage Outlet! at December 13, 2017 01:12 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 01:12 PM (QC/4S)
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.Congress already did Fusion is fighting the subpoena.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 13, 2017 01:10 PM (+Dllb)
I'm sure national security will be thrown out there.
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 01:12 PM (g4lFK)
Instead the were given grants from the public fisc to buy up healthy banks that were suddenly in danger because the FEC changed the reserve requirements, without offering relief to the prudent banks.
We used to have that corruption in my town. The City would revoke the sewer permit of a development, after it was almost complete, unless the developer let some of the Councilman's relatives buy in.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 01:12 PM (WbIyz)
Yep.
All costs born by the Laws passed by our betters in Congress to get Financial Institutions to lend monies to the poor.
If they had allowed a true crash, they would have been exposed.
Trust that if the Politicians responsible thought their sinecures would be safer had they diverted those Trillions in 'money' to you, they would have.
Blame the Bankers if you want, but they are only playing by the rules.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 01:13 PM (XHDFG)
An Atlantic article with this promo:
"Is it unethical for people to pass their on to their children?"
Posted by: mrp at December 13, 2017 01:13 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 13, 2017 01:13 PM (7ZVPa)
Anything short of jail time is meaningless.
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 01:14 PM (BPzCo)
Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2017 01:14 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 13, 2017 01:12 PM (fA1SL)
What will prison issue look like? Stripes? Feldgrau? Burlap?
So many decisions.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 01:14 PM (Bdeb0)
already and it probably will be a kidney stone of a week but I'm going
to have to be the raven that shits in the punchbowl -- not to mix
metaphors or anything -- and note that there will be no consequences.
None. Mueller will get a few scalps and mosey along, Strzkglhokmn will
be reprimanded and will retire early, other people will get a stern
talking to, and the bureaucracy will continue as before. That's the
best. case. scenario. Hate to be cynical but that's the outcome that
experience has taught me to expect.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 01:00 PM
You are far too young to be so cynical.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 13, 2017 01:14 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: mrp at December 13, 2017 01:14 PM (Pqytn)
So I open my Firefox browser and am greeted with a "you may find this interesting" set of article links. This one caught my eye:
An Atlantic article with this promo:
"Is it unethical for people to pass their on to their children?"
Posted by: mrp at December 13, 2017 01:13 PM (Pqytn)
All your assets are belong to us!
Posted by: Greedy government pigs at December 13, 2017 01:14 PM (ymnmz)
Right now it's on limited distribution. But there is a FIFO fix.
The hearing at 2 will cover it.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 01:15 PM (y67qO)
Posted by: Lester at December 13, 2017 01:15 PM (LfJIn)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 01:15 PM (QC/4S)
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 01:14 PM
Victoria's Secret for the 'ettes.
Competition Speedos for the 'rons.
Crocs for everyone.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 13, 2017 01:15 PM (ctuyM)
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 01:16 PM (8XRCm)
Freddie Mac, those who ran that evil POS and its enablers- DEM
Politicians and their Republican cohorts, are DIRECTLY responsible for
the economic collapse of 2008.
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 01:12 PM (QC/4S)
Greed, from top to bottom is to blame. From the broker who sold a house they knew the buyer couldn't afford, to the buyer who lied on the mortgage apps, to the banker who underwrote the loan knowing full well it would be collateralized off his books for the tax-payer to absorb. I blame the bankers most because they're the only ones in the equation who knew full well that they'd be made whole at everyone else's expense.
Not a single person went to jail. Fraud on a massive scale in every direction, yet not a single prosecution.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 01:17 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: kallisto at December 13, 2017 01:17 PM (Iz8Py)
Rosenstein is answering your question right now.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 01:17 PM (/tuJf)
Yeah, I don't consider Government Banks like Fannie / Freddie the Bankers who are being targeted here.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 01:17 PM (XHDFG)
Posted by: Marmo - yes, I am entertained, thank you very much at December 13, 2017 01:17 PM (CcNKy)
Posted by: Marcus T
It's working how it was designed to work. To dumb down kids, condition kids to be obedient slave workers, and condition kids to not excell.
Only those children of The Party are allowed the opportunity to excell in life.
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 01:17 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Under Fire-Moldova Curious at December 13, 2017 01:17 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 01:15 PM (QC/4S)
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Jamie Gorelick.....
....who before THAT took down the twin towers.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 01:17 PM (8XRCm)
That is probably true. You - we - don't really notice things until the Barbarians are at the gates.
In our case, the Barbarians are inside the city and are part of the government.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 13, 2017 01:17 PM (KdDCu)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 13, 2017 01:17 PM (7ZVPa)
Posted by: Archer
________
We've already had a horse in the Senate until Obama appointed him as Secretary of State.
Posted by: Furious George at December 13, 2017 01:17 PM (j+dfT)
Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2017 01:17 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 01:05 PM (y67qO)
Well they keep telling us that they are the more prosperous states blah blah blah, just paying their fair shares, amirite?
Posted by: random lurker commenter at December 13, 2017 01:18 PM (dab45)
You are far too young to be so cynical.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 13, 2017 01:14 PM (ctuyM)
Well, math being my strong suit, I did some complex c"alculations, because I do not know how old Joncelli is. Given the level of cynicism expressed, and the "facts on the ground," he would have to be -35 years old to qualify as "too young to be that cynical."
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2017 01:18 PM (9chmE)
What a day.
Posted by: Barck Obama is a bad, bad man at December 13, 2017 01:18 PM (ylUqT)
Fully rehabilitated clients wear Adidas track suits, with an overmantle of the dressed and cured skin of a recalcitrant new admit.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at December 13, 2017 01:18 PM (fA1SL)
UPDATE: Trump's spray tan made mostly from Diet Coke!
Posted by: Anachronda at December 13, 2017 01:18 PM (sGtp+)
Conspiracy?
Posted by: Soothie at December 13, 2017 01:18 PM (hpr56)
He used to really seem to know what he's talking about. Now I just wonder whose bread he's trying to butter. He has no credibility at all any more.
On a related note, Republicans who worked to get the Dem elected in AL have the nerve to blame his defeat on BANNON - calling him "toxic", among less flattering things. You just can't make this stuff up.
Posted by: Optimizer at December 13, 2017 01:19 PM (EnK/R)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 13, 2017 01:15 PM (ctuyM)
Citizen, please: That's for the *post-Restoration* Clinton Correctional Centers, when we all have to sullenly pledge allegiance to Chelsea Clinton and have mandatory buttsex with each other.
TrumpCamps are for our current, brief, opportunity to re-educate the leftwankentariat.
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 01:19 PM (Bdeb0)
You haven't heard the good news, though.
Obamacare is basically untouched!
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 01:19 PM (XHDFG)
Posted by: Marmo - yes, I am entertained, thank you very much at December 13, 2017 01:19 PM (CcNKy)
Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2017 01:19 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Archer
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Odoacer made it pretty apparent
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 01:19 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: IC at December 13, 2017 12:23 PM (a0IVu)
Calls for that happen EVERYDAY on farcebook. I know personally a Looney-Toons scrunt that gets away with this.
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at December 13, 2017 01:19 PM (FPJNr)
Posted by: porg herder at December 13, 2017 01:20 PM (TlvUt)
"Is it unethical for people to pass their inheritance on to their children?"
Posted by: mrp at December 13, 2017 01:14 PM (Pqytn)
For Commies, YES! Seize all their assets and make them leave. I have zero problems with this course of action.
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 01:20 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 01:21 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at December 13, 2017 12:32 PM (NWiLs)
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I think you just described 90% of the D.C. swamp inhabitant creatures.
Posted by: ShainS at December 13, 2017 01:21 PM (NgJ08)
already and it probably will be a kidney stone of a week but I'm going
to have to be the raven that shits in the punchbowl -- not to mix
metaphors or anything -- and note that there will be no consequences.
None. Mueller will get a few scalps and mosey along, Strzkglhokmn will
be reprimanded and will retire early, other people will get a stern
talking to, and the bureaucracy will continue as before. That's the
best. case. scenario. Hate to be cynical but that's the outcome that
experience has taught me to expect.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 01:00 PM
You are far too young to be so cynical.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 13, 2017 01:14 PM (ctuyM)
Well, 29 plus some prime number that is embarrassingly far from zero is hardly young. But, as I've said elsewhere, I have too much strain on my heart as it is to pay so much attention to politics.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 01:21 PM (RD7QR)
Not a single person went to jail. Fraud on a massive scale in every direction, yet not a single prosecution.
==
I already made my point about responsibility in this matter. I will not be repeating it.
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2017 01:22 PM (QC/4S)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 01:22 PM (BPzCo)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2017 01:22 PM (k1TUh)
Posted by: Senator Bob Menendez at December 13, 2017 01:22 PM (XSUzW)
Posted by: x at December 13, 2017 12:26 PM (nFwvY)
If you had a list of what you DO PAY TAXES FOR you would form at least a Squad of men and pack 4-days rations for the march.
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at December 13, 2017 01:23 PM (FPJNr)
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 01:21 PM (g4lFK)"
Have you actually seen it- or are you just here to troll?I have it right in front of me. Great? Nah, but nothing that comes from Congress is.It's actually overall a pretty good bill given the hurdles.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 01:23 PM (VpIIl)
Deep State is there
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at December 13, 2017 01:23 PM (h/uSM)
Tax Bill Sucks.
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I never had any doubt. Look at the Congress we have.
Has the campaign for the 2018 election started yet?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 13, 2017 01:23 PM (KdDCu)
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2017 01:24 PM (VAlay)
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UPDATE: Trump's spray tan made mostly from Diet Coke!
Posted by: Anachronda at December 13, 2017 01:18 PM (sGtp+)
You could probably walk through any spray tan salon, waving $100 bills, and get somebody to say he touched them the wrong way.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2017 01:24 PM (9chmE)
Is there a supply train following or do we just forage off the land and the housewives after that?
Posted by: Bander proctoring a test at December 13, 2017 01:24 PM (WZG6Y)
Ducks nibbling around the edges and fighting over the bigger pieces.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at December 13, 2017 01:25 PM (KdDCu)
Not true. The individual mandate is repealed. They will ease the transition off crack with some funding, but that eventually ends. That will make it eaier for people on it to drop it.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 01:25 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (BPzCo)
I ordered a stainless steel colander with a leather chin strap from amazon."
Posted by: fixerupper
But what about the holes in the colander??!! Eleventy!!!
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (rKka5)
Posted by: Zod at December 13, 2017 01:14 PM
Victoria's Secret for the 'ettes.
Competition Speedos for the 'rons.
Crocs for everyone.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 13, 2017 01:15 PM (ctuyM)
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i thought the guys get shirts
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: Bander proctoring a test at December 13, 2017 01:24 PM
They shall feed our bretheren with delicious recipes from a new cookbook.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (VAlay)
constant civil wars between different factions and families for control.
And then the 4th century saw the Empire get split in half between the
two sides that really never liked each other very much. It was a long,
slow descent.
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In other words, Tuesday.
Posted by: Barck Obama is a bad, bad man at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (ylUqT)
Posted by: mrp at December 13, 2017 01:14 PM (Pqytn)
These lefties are too funny. There are two major reasons that guys do any hard work - to get pussy and to pass their accumulated wealth on to their kids. The lefties want to take this second major reason away and they think that people will work just as hard ... so that they can build up wealth that the state takes the day they die and so that the state can eventually accumulate all the wealth and bring about socialism.
I didn't bother reading the article (don't need to, it's guaranteed to be stupid and is probably just the same shit the left has been spouting since forever).
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (8gDQu)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 01:23 PM (VpIIl)
If they leave the AMT in that's going to be a hard pill to swallow, that was one of their main promises. Someone on FBN just said he heard they were leaving it in for individuals and taking it out for business. If they take it out, I'm okay with the rest of the bill including getting rid of the SALT.
Posted by: spypeach at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (myc22)
almost 100 years of constant civil wars between different factions and
families for control. And then the 4th century saw the Empire get split
in half between the two sides that really never liked each other very
much. It was a long, slow descent.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2017 01:22 PM (k1TUh)
The Roman Empire never died... it just turned into the Catholic Church!!!
Posted by: Mission of Burma at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (9chmE)
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They were made whole because they were *compelled* to make those sub prime loans on marginal properties to marginal lenders by Freddy and Fannie.
The bundling of paper loans as securities and then TRADING LEVERAGED DERIVITIVES on those bundled secuities is what crashed the system.
But Barney Frank and Jamie Gorelick walk off Scott free.
No way the sub prime loans ever get made if the banks were carrying the risk.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: navycopjoe at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (N6CVU)
Prosecution and conviction need to follow. What's the point of firing them when they end up landing at a lobbyist firm?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at December 13, 2017 01:27 PM (eytER)
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at December 13, 2017 01:27 PM (h/uSM)
If the mandate is gone then Obamacare is doomed.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 01:27 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 13, 2017 01:27 PM (ftdxp)
Most of us want good news. But we have spent decades learning that it does not typically come from Washinton D.C. and have no reason to believe this time will be different.
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 01:28 PM (cAnNx)
exchanges to him - people just plotting to keep their jobs when the
management is about to change.
Here's what I don't get about McCarthy's and Napolitano's reaction to this: when I first entered the workplace it was made clear that it was important to even avoid the *appearance* of wrongdoing, because appearing to be corrupt (making the company look bad, criminal, etc.) would have same negative impact on the company as actually being corrupt, criminal, whatever.
Now it's all whatever, everyone's biased, blah blah blah.
No, nope, 1000x wrong. Strzoc, Ohr, McCage, Page have all done damage to their respective agencies. Period. Why shrug it off?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2017 01:28 PM (W+vEI)
He has the Hottest Wife of all the Morons.
Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2017 01:28 PM (XHDFG)
Posted by: Barck Obama is a bad, bad man at December 13, 2017 01:28 PM (ylUqT)
I ordered a stainless steel colander with a leather chin strap from amazon."
Posted by: fixerupper
But what about the holes in the colander??!! Eleventy!!!
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (rKka5)
I use a barber's basin.
Posted by: D. Quixote at December 13, 2017 01:28 PM (9chmE)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 01:11 PM (UBzPO)
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You act as if the only people to be affected by an estate tax would be unethical bankers. Wouldn't it be more sensible to go after the unethical bankers instead? And given regulatory capture, they'd be able to evade such taxes anyway. Moar government burdens never solves these problems, they just exacerbate them.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 01:29 PM (/qEW2)
Shoe fits.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at December 13, 2017 01:29 PM (W/SyC)
Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (gbWkA)
Constantinople recognized the facts on the ground: Odoacer was running the show. The rest was just face-saving lies.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at December 13, 2017 01:29 PM (RD7QR)
I was banging the CEOs administrative assistant and we constantly emailed each other about how to undermine the incoming board chair. Unfortunately we got found out and I got busted to HR and she got moved to Accounting.
Posted by: MAGA at December 13, 2017 01:29 PM (mgKnI)
Posted by: Anachronda at December 13, 2017 01:18 PM (sGtp+)
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Melania shouldn't being drinking and reading the comments here at the same time.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at December 13, 2017 01:30 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 01:21 PM (g4lFK)"
Have you actually seen it- or are you just here to troll?I have it right in front of me. Great? Nah, but nothing that comes from Congress is.It's actually overall a pretty good bill given the hurdles.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 01:23 PM (VpIIl)
Been keeping up with it through various site. Please name one good thing about it for single men with children. Not Obamacare mandate gone. One good thing for younger men just starting out or divorced with kids that they should be happy about. The lower middle class.
i don't see much but more of the same redistribution schemes.
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 01:30 PM (g4lFK)
Not true. The individual mandate is repealed. They will ease the transition off crack with some funding, but that eventually ends. That will make it eaier for people on it to drop it.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 01:25 PM (VpIIl)
Meanwhile, my health insurance went up 25% -- yes, that's right, 25%!! -- come January, and it covers even less than the meager amount it did this year.
And I won't even tell you how much it had gone up since BarkyCare started. And I am not on the exchange and have nothing to do with BarkyCare, but it affects all insurance rates. They are going to "let it die" while my insurance goes through the roof (and pays for pretty much nothing, anyway) so that a bunch of illegals can have insurance cards. Fvckers.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 13, 2017 01:30 PM (8gDQu)
And quite a few refuse to look at the fact or even accept them when others give them.
Being skeptical isn't the sole right of the doom and gloom crowd but constant negativity in the face of factually good news is just trolling.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2017 01:30 PM (/tuJf)
'Also in March, Page seems to be concerned about whether the things they say about Mr. Trump can be found out. "So look, you say we can text on that phone when we talk about Hillary because it cant be traced," she wrote.'
Have not seen this elsewhere but it seems pretty significant if true. It shows they taking active steps to avoid detection and knew they were guilty.
Or is Strzok's wife is named Hillary.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 13, 2017 01:30 PM (hUqh+)
Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2017 01:30 PM (gbWkA)
I see a new version of The Running Man show.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 13, 2017 01:31 PM (WbIyz)
Would you still claim that the results of this investigation were unbiased?
Posted by: LASue at December 13, 2017 01:32 PM (Mjus2)
Not true. The individual
mandate is repealed. They will ease the transition off crack with some
funding, but that eventually ends. That will make it eaier for people on
it to drop it.
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I was fine leaving ZeroCare untouched. Leave the mandate. Full repeal will only happen when voters die in the rising shit-tide.
Posted by: Barck Obama is a bad, bad man at December 13, 2017 01:32 PM (ylUqT)
say about Mr. Trump can be found out. "So look, you say we can text on
that phone when we talk about Hillary because it cant be traced," she
wrote.'
Shoulda gotten a Ham radio. Pikers!
Posted by: Nellie at December 13, 2017 01:33 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Barck Obama is a bad, bad man at December 13, 2017 01:28 PM (ylUqT)
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Maybe you're right. The left protested in pussy hats, and then went on to win in VA and AL.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 01:34 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Bander proctoring a test at December 13, 2017 01:24 PM (WZG6Y)
Pillage first then burn.
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at December 13, 2017 01:34 PM (FPJNr)
estate tax would be unethical bankers. Wouldn't it be more sensible to
go after the unethical bankers instead? And given regulatory capture,
they'd be able to evade such taxes anyway. Moar government burdens never
solves these problems, they just exacerbate them.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at December 13, 2017 01:29 PM (/qEW2)
It was always only a thought exercise since it'd be so easy to game the system, but my first thought would be to set the threshold extremely high (billionaire territory). And obviously no one is talking about leaving survivors destitute.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 01:35 PM (UBzPO)
Posted by: buzzion at December 13, 2017 01:35 PM (cAnNx)
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (8XRCm)
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Plus the GSEs were buying up the most dead of the debt. A year or two before the collapse, I remember reading an article that Fannie and Freddie owned up to 80% of the mortgage defaults in America. And economy street preachers claimed crazy things like it "couldn't continue forever".
The GSEs going into receivership, meant that the bad-housing debt market had no sink. Which meant that with Mark-to-Market accounting, the bundles took direct hits, despite that there was still value in the bundle that could recover the asset.
It's just amazing how massive a scam housing has been since the 90s, and how long those plates stayed spinning...until they started falling.
And then, when the GSEs go into receivership, all that debt is owned by... the American people!!
Posted by: Axeman at December 13, 2017 01:36 PM (vDqXW)
Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2017 01:37 PM (gbWkA)
Posted by: Marmo - yes, I am entertained, thank you very much at December 13, 2017 01:17 PM
I can help with that.
Posted by: Regie Love at December 13, 2017 01:37 PM (p+Wdc)
Seems like another flaming pineapple wrapped in barbed wire up the ass.
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 01:40 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2017 01:41 PM (gbWkA)
Thank you JackStraw.
Posted by: Roberta at December 13, 2017 01:41 PM (3YXax)
Estate Tax should be for billionaires, but they escape it.
Posted by: Monk at December 13, 2017 01:42 PM (g4lFK)
Posted by: JoeNYC at December 13, 2017 01:44 PM (XhV0T)
Posted by: Lester at December 13, 2017 01:45 PM (LfJIn)
DERIVITIVES on those bundled secuities is what crashed the system.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 13, 2017 01:26 PM (8XRCm)
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It was the underlying loans themselves that crashed the system. The loans were made to uncreditworthy borrowers and the trading market only died when the asset turned out to be worthless.
Trading the assets helps in discovering the real value. Stopping trading is a sure-fire way to make the bubble issue worse by far. Think of it this way: If two people argue over the value of a car one wants to sell and other wants to by they have only their two opinions to consider. If, however, hundreds of potential buyers can weigh in, the real "value" is far more quickly established.
Stopping trading only slows down value discovery.
Posted by: Barck Obama is a bad, bad man at December 13, 2017 01:48 PM (ylUqT)
The AOS Style guide says that open treason by a rogue FBI is skull worthy only if 40% of Americans give a shi*t.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at December 13, 2017 01:48 PM (W/SyC)
Posted by: #neverskankles at December 13, 2017 01:49 PM (BPzCo)
"Obamacare is basically untouched!"
Not true. The individual
mandate is repealed. They will ease the transition off crack with some
funding, but that eventually ends. That will make it eaier for people on
it to drop it.
=========================
I was fine leaving ZeroCare untouched. Leave the mandate. Full repeal will only happen when voters die in the rising shit-tide."
Collins was a no on health care reform. This was her big issue. IT's ben taken care of.
McCain was the other "no". But he doesn't even know where his dick is anymore.
This will help get the votes for a new reform bill. IT will eventually force it by bankrupting the system.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2017 01:50 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: DocJ at December 13, 2017 01:51 PM (7bkOX)
The people most affected by the estate tax are family farmers and ranchers. Land values and all.
Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2017 01:37 PM (gbWkA)
Well then exempt farms and ranches.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 13, 2017 01:55 PM (UBzPO)
They only let microwaves in, keeping your brain nice and toasty.
Posted by: Anachronda at December 13, 2017 01:56 PM (sGtp+)
Wednesday, December 13, 2017
Trey Gowdy GOES OFF on Rosenstein About DOJ, FBI Corruption and Conflicts of Interest in Epic 6 MINUTE Rant (VIDEO)
Posted by: MISH McConnell at December 13, 2017 02:01 PM (y3aQB)
McCabe & Co. - and their media enablers - might want to review that part of the record, too.
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at December 13, 2017 02:27 PM (X8DLV)
Collins was a no on health care reform. This was her big issue. IT's ben taken care of.
McCain was the other "no". But he doesn't even know where his dick is anymore.
This will help get the votes for a new reform bill. IT will eventually force it by bankrupting the system.
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The tax bill doesn't help me. I'm happy if it does not pass. I could care less about buying off Collins or McCain. You're just listing more reasons to dislike the bill, which runs counter to your goal (I'm guessing).
Posted by: Barck Obama is a bad, bad man at December 13, 2017 03:05 PM (ylUqT)
not an attorney, I'm sure you noticed). The thing speaks for itself. Two
people talk about creating a conspiracy of secret plans, and then there
is evidence and documentation that it occurred. The literally texted
about committing treason and then put the plan into action. Ergo Crime
and intent?
Is there anything that is not in scope of Mueller
that Sessions can take action on? Isn't evidence that the Mueller
investigation is the pointy end of a conspiracy to commit treason sort
of nullify the whole thing?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 13, 2017 01:10 PM (ymnmz)
Here's the deal. The group of people who "investigated" (covered up and buried) Uranium One is the same group of people who "investigated" (covered up and buried) Hillary's e-mails, the same group of people who worked with Fusion GPS, got the dossier and the FISA warrants, and conducted (probably illegal) domestic surveillance against the Trump campaign and the Presidential transition, and the same group of people who now (or until recently, in some cases) occupy the Special Counsel's office investigating the President. They appear all to be partisan Democrats of the Clinton persuasion and to work seamlessly with outside groups like Fusion GPS, which was funded by the Clinton campaign and the DNC to produce the dossier. I wonder if this same group of people were involved in the decision to accept the CrowdStrike report that the DNC was hacked by Russians (not by Seth Rich) and not to examine the DNC server (because that might uncover contrary evidence), but rather to use the CrowdStrike report as corroborating evidence of a Russian conspiracy, bolstering the case for the FISA warrants and the domestic surveillance? This is bigger than Watergate.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 13, 2017 03:10 PM (jK8Z7)
Posted by: gobagoo at December 13, 2017 06:10 PM (A/saJ)
Just a bunch of FBI officers sitting around deciding who will or won't be president.
That's a police state coup attempt.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 13, 2017 10:04 PM (Ndje9)
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